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From The Guardian:

Imperial College London urged to remove statue and rename buildings

Report into historical links to British empire highlights scientists who advocated eugenics and racism

David Batty
Tue 26 Oct 2021 10.18 EDT

An investigation into Imperial College London’s historical links to the British empire

Ya think?

has recommended the university remove a statue and rename buildings and lecture theatres that celebrate scientists whose work advocated eugenics and racism.

The recommendations by the university’s independent history group are intended to address racial inequalities and improve inclusivity at the Russell Group university.

The report identified a number of problematic renowned scientific figures who have been honoured with buildings, rooms and academic positions in their names.

For example, it calls for a building named after the English biologist and anthropologist Thomas Henry Huxley, lauded for determining that birds descended from dinosaurs, to be renamed due to his racist beliefs about human intelligence.

TH Huxley was “Darwin’s bulldog,” who took the lead in public in arguing for Darwin’s theory of natural selection.

They don’t quite have the nerve to cancel Darwin yet, but they are working their way up to the big guy.

The report says Huxley’s essay Emancipation – Black and White “espouses a racial hierarchy of intelligence, a belief system of ‘scientific racism’ that fed the dangerous and false ideology of eugenics; legacies of which are still felt today”.

Huxley’s grandsons included novelist Aldous Huxley, author of Brave New World, biologist Sir Julian Huxley, and biochemist Andrew Huxley, winner of the Nobel Prize. This of course disproves T.H.’s pseudoscientific views about heredity and intelligence.

A bust of Huxley, the first dean of the Royal College of Science from 1881-85, should also be removed from display and placed in the college archives, it adds.

Lecture rooms named after influential figures who advocated eugenics, such as WD Hamilton, a lecturer in genetics at the college from 1964 to 1977, should also be renamed.

The report also flagged up concerns over endowments from the late 19th- and early 20th-century philanthropists Alfred and Otto Beit and Julius Wernher, three of the college’s most important financial donors, due to the oppressive treatment of the largely Black migrant workers in the diamond and goldmines from which they made their fortunes.

Maybe Wernher gets cancelled, but the Beits?

 
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  1. An investigation into Imperial College London’s historical links to the British empire has recommended the university remove a statue and rename buildings and lecture theatres that celebrate scientists whose work advocated eugenics and racism.

    Ha, ha. I encourage this. There is still a lot of ruin to go.

    Why not:

    An investigation into the United Kingdom’s historical links to the British empire has recommended that the nation cancel and rename itself due to the empire’s association with eugenics, racism, colonialism…..

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @tyrone
    @Daniel H

    South Doggerland?

  2. Remember to say when you wake up: “Racist — it don’t mean nothing.” Then carry on.

  3. Meanwhile, that Barack Obama fellow is betraying his rich, white upbringing to divulge our most closely guarded White People Secrets:

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonymous

    Turns out Bruce's Dad was right about Bruce all along. He is a mega-SWPL pansy, isn't he?

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN FANS loved Clarence Clemmons [sic] but only "on-stage"
     
    The best part of Springsteen records was when he shut up and let Clemons and the others play. His second album, The Wild, the Innocent & the E Street Shuffle, was almost all like this.

    It was recorded in lilywhite Blauvelt in Rockland County. Were the locals really that mean to Clarence, we'd have heard about it before this, wouldn't we?

    Replies: @duncsbaby

    , @duncsbaby
    @Anonymous

    Yeah, the only white guys calling Clarence Clemons a n*gger in a bar were cross-eyed drunk or suicidal. Clemons wasn't called Big Man for nothing. That's why ole Clarence had so many anecdotes about him being called that word in bars by white bullies and also why he over-compensated by marrying a white girl.

    , @Fhjjjkjcdddbb
    @Anonymous

    Clemons turned every Springsteen song into “Yakety Sax”. I can’t say he ruined any Springsteen song — Bruce already took care of that.

    , @Goddard
    @Anonymous

    Bruce Springsteen is a Chardonnay-sippin' fake workin' man. Still waiting for his acoustic and soulful "Immigrant Man Stole Away My Living and I'm Down ’n' Out ’n' Feelin' Blue ’n' I'm on Fentanyl and Boss Man Bought a Pickup ’n' Big Screen TV with All the Money He Saved Hirin' Mexicans and It's All So Dylanesque."

  4. Suppose these eminent Victorian scientists had written that they believed the Chinese were less intelligent than Europeans. Since this is manifestly untrue, no-one would get upset about what they believed and want to erase them from history. It would just be something about which they were wrong. But what they believed about racial hierarchy in intelligence happens to be true, so it cannot be mocked, or given in a history of science lesson as an example of false scientific hypothesis, but instead the authors must be removed from the historical record.

    If the libtards really believed that the races of man all had ther same intelligence then they would welcome scientific investigation into the subject, confident that they would be proved correct.

    • Agree: Charon
    • Replies: @Polistra
    @martin_2

    Eugenics is this totally discredited notion the Nazis had, that by improving the human race we could somehow improve the human condition. Which is a concept so ridiculous that it makes me want to laugh out loud and chortle.

    Everyone who's anyone knows there's no such thing as race. Soon, once the last white person has been exterminated, there will be no more Nazis either. Then we all have big party!

    Replies: @Prof. Woland

  5. So the Anglo empiricists–the people who were actually right about human behavior–get cancelled.

    The non-empirical people who peddle their minoritarian blank slate lies … accolades.

  6. “They don’t quite have the nerve to cancel Darwin yet, but they are working their way up to the big guy.”

    Sooner than you think. Just as soon as they finish the final chapters of The Descent of Man, especially the parts that relate to Negroid and other non-Caucasian race.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    I haven't read it, but my relative did and was quite shocked at Darwin's racial stupidity. Apparently the indigenous people of the tip of South America are essentially animals and the Scots are quite close to perfection. Ha!

  7. Aren’t there plenty of people and organizations that advise ‘pregnant persons’ that they can detect Down Syndrome in the fetus – and then abort it? And isn’t that precisely an example of eugenics??
    Time for some counterattacking: put these wokesters on the spot and get them to condemn Down screening!

    • Agree: NickG
    • Replies: @jamie b.
    @Hans Tholstrup


    And isn’t that precisely an example of eugenics??
     
    Not in the case of Down Syndrome, which isn't inheritable.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Rob

  8. Maybe Wernher gets cancelled, but the Beits?

    Wernher = Huxley = Chauvin
    Beit = Darwin = Baldwin

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Reg Cæsar



    Maybe Wernher gets cancelled, but the Beits?
     
    Wernher = Huxley = Chauvin
    Beit = Darwin = Baldwin
     
    )))Wernher((( gets cancelled,
    but the (((Beits)))?

    Replies: @Fhjjjkjcdddbb

  9. Anonymous[234] • Disclaimer says:

    medical researcher Andrew Huxley, winner of the Nobel Prize

    He was not medical researcher. A biochemist and physiologist, studying fundamental aspects of how complex living things function.

    The Hodgkin-Huxley model/theory explained propagation of electrical signals along the axons and between cells, also revealing the function of myelin in nervous system – that’s was a Nobel almost as spectacular as the structure of DNA.

    Andrew Huxley also contributed significantly to another Nobel-worthy discovery: Explanation of how muscles contract and relax (the “cross-bridge cycle filament sliding theory”). Interestingly, he did it independently and almost simultaneously with Hugh Huxley. The common claim is that Andrew and Hugh are not relatives, which is almost hard to believe (although both English). Hugh Huxley also should been awarded a a Nobel too but never dis, alas.

  10. Darwin’s days are numbered. As are all ours.

  11. They are shooting themselves in the foot. The largest material effect is going to be people going back and reading for themselves what Huxley, Darwin, et al said about the different races. There is a bunch of factual racism in there because very often the facts are racist. The clever move here is to ignore these men altogether.

    I was reading History of Magic by Ennemoser the other day (19th c. doctor and student of Mesmer) and he casually mentions that Africans are good at running and jumping because they are closer to monkeys biologically than other races who can’t jump as well. You can get his book at archive.org although it is obscure in the the modern zeitgeist. It is an excellent book. Sometimes the thing to do is let sleeping dogs lie.

    • Agree: Charon
    • Replies: @Prof. Woland
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    It could be argued that Darwinism peaked with the Nazis taking biology and race to ad absurdum levels. It has been dwindling since then as people look for other ways, most of them lacking, of explaining the world and who we are. Prior to that after turning away from religion there was Transcendentalism and the enlightenment.

    Looking back at 2021 we will probably see that we were at another deflection point. Only now 'equality' will be the polar opposite of natural selection. Having more than two sexes, Trans issues, and feminism's revolt against nature will be seen for the absurdities that they are. By the time we recognize it will will be bouncing back towards the other pole in an odd new direction.

    , @Prester John
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I don't know whether the good doctor was correct about the resemblance between Africans and monkeys in terms of running and jumping but the fact that their American offspring overwhelmingly dominate basketball and football (which place a premium on athleticism) DOES give one pause.

  12. I say dig up their bones and incinerate them into ashes and then piss on the ashes. How dare a scientist notice that certain cultures don’t have domesticated animals, the wheel and still use stone and bone implements. People are forgetting to understand things in the context of time.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Buffalo Joe

    Thank you sir! At last, a moderate voice of reason on this benighted blog.

    , @Rob
    @Buffalo Joe

    Not to mention, exactly what have blacks and (tepee) Indians done post-Darwin and Huxley thinking about them that offers proof, or any evidence that the greats were wrong? Has there been a single impressive mostly-Indian Hispanic in any field ever? Before you answer with a politician or athlete, the fact that you were going to answer with a pol or sporty spice pretty much makes the point.

    I think it’s pretty fair to say that given the success of Anglo societies around the world and the mediocrity (at best) of Latin America, that there are two candidates for the failure of the latter. Miscegenation or peninsular culture. I tend to be a both/and kind of person, so I’m willing to chalk up 75% of the failure to each cause.

    Blacks? American blacks are probably the saddest case in human history. Let’s say the Whig theory of history is true, stays true, and time travelers offer to take your family 50,000 years into the future. Should you go? The experience of American blacks says Hell, no! It is just not possible to miss 50,000 years of selection, and then hit the ground running. Even being about a fifth white, blacks lived in the richest society humanity has ever seen. Their biggest contribution to science was that some of them did not get syphilis treatment. Not to mention that was not even important science.

    Even in sports and politics, the only areas blacks have had any “success” they have not built on it. Some guy punches real good (yeah, I know really well, I just cannot bring myself to type that thought in proper English) Punchy gets rich. Punchy has a post-punching life as an icon of civil rights. Liberal boomers and SportCux would have paid him an arbitrarily large sum to stand next to a product and shake (Parkinson’s caused by punchy gettin’ punched). Set for life, what does his daughter do? Does she set up a foundation? Even just to have a career going around telling black kids “my father, Punchy, lived a punching life punching people so you can punch things with your minds, not your fists.” Nope! She went into girl punching! Have no idea what happened in Girl Punchy’s girl punching career, and I’m too lazy to DuckDuckGo find out.

    So that’s a synecdoche of black “success” in sports. How about politics? I’ll just sum this up with a question. Are blacks better off today for having a black political class than they would have been with paternalistic whites in charge of them? Sort of like an internal Peace Corps or domestic Bureau of Colonial Affairs. Please don’t answer with “of course they are better off with what really happened! Some black politician got a lot of money!” This is a holistic assessment. All those black men in prison, would they be there if segregation had not ended, and whites had not had to flee black crime, thereby depriving blacks of jobs as domestics and unskilled labor. If they had been held to paternalistic white standards, if the welfare money had not flowed to unwed mothers and their bastard children, would mass incarceration have been necessary?

    Maybe I should not be looking for great minds in blacks and Indians. Perhaps great minds can only express themselves in countries that are at the forefront of technology and science, like, um, America? How have run-of-the-mill black minds performed in America? They have not had a stellar run. There are next to no blacks at the heights of objective fields who got there on intellectual ability. To be fair, Black Science Man is a very appealing popularizer. Not sure if he inspires da yoof that the liberal intelligentsia wants him to, or if he just gives liberals a frisson of Feeling Officially Not Racist and a safe thrill of sexual danger — for both women and men.

    Really, what are the five things a black person has achieved after Darwin died that make anyone, even the Officially Not Racist Black Science Man fans think “Darwin? Oh, yeah. [yawns] Natural selection was impressive by the standards of the eighteen fifties. But these achievements by people that Darwin racistly called “lower races” put his “scientific achievement” into the dustbin where it belongs. Achievements like…” and fill in the ellipses.

    It seems that the nineteenth and early twentieth century eugenicists are being canceled not because they were wrong, but because, with another century and a half of experience, it is self-evidently obvious that Darwin, Huxley, et al (shoutout to my man Punnett!) were right. Unlike 191x, modern men have the experience of dealing with all races of men nearly daily. We can all see, even blacks (because Everyone Knows) what was once apparent to Great Men.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Macumazahn

  13. The Huxley family has more intelligence than all the racial/racist complainers put together at Imperial College. Past white intellectual giants are being attacked by their inferiors, by Lilliputians and pygmies. All due to racist envy of white brainpower, achievements, white looks. Tiny duck will agree with me that black girls prefer playing with white Barbie dolls.

  14. Anonymous[234] • Disclaimer says:

    Notably, the same report (https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/administration-and-support-services/equality/public/history-group/History-Group-Report---October-2021.pdf) also recommends renaming of lecture halls named after two more science greats: Ronald Fisher (foundational contributions to statistics and notable applications in genetics) and John Haldane (one of the founders of quantitative genetics; the illiterate assholes in this committee even managed to mis-spell his surname).

    The list of people who need to be celebrated is predictable: Browns, blacks and women with relatively minor contributions.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Haldane was a committed Marxist, ironically enough, who defended Lysenko.

    Those dolts don't even understand the characters - let alone the writings - of the men they seek to destroy.

    The were white, male, middle class and, horror of horrors " waah, mommy those nasty men were eugenicists!!!! " - that in itself is enough to tear them down.

    'Eugenicists" - a label those babbling childish fools don't even understand, but you know, it just *sounds* evil, just like 'Nazi' does, and it's a dirty word, just like 'ass' is a dirty word.

  15. “An investigation into Imperial College London’s historical links to the British empire”

    Might there be a clue in the name?

    • LOL: ben tillman
  16. @Buffalo Joe
    I say dig up their bones and incinerate them into ashes and then piss on the ashes. How dare a scientist notice that certain cultures don't have domesticated animals, the wheel and still use stone and bone implements. People are forgetting to understand things in the context of time.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Rob

    Thank you sir! At last, a moderate voice of reason on this benighted blog.

    • LOL: Charon, ic1000
    • Troll: Dan Hayes
  17. They can’t cancel Harry Potter and Dave Chappelle. Mis-Cancels are a big deal.

  18. Virtually everything blacks have in modernity is due to Whites who created it.

  19. “dangerous and false”
    On the blackboard 500 times!

  20. @Buffalo Joe
    I say dig up their bones and incinerate them into ashes and then piss on the ashes. How dare a scientist notice that certain cultures don't have domesticated animals, the wheel and still use stone and bone implements. People are forgetting to understand things in the context of time.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Rob

    Not to mention, exactly what have blacks and (tepee) Indians done post-Darwin and Huxley thinking about them that offers proof, or any evidence that the greats were wrong? Has there been a single impressive mostly-Indian Hispanic in any field ever? Before you answer with a politician or athlete, the fact that you were going to answer with a pol or sporty spice pretty much makes the point.

    I think it’s pretty fair to say that given the success of Anglo societies around the world and the mediocrity (at best) of Latin America, that there are two candidates for the failure of the latter. Miscegenation or peninsular culture. I tend to be a both/and kind of person, so I’m willing to chalk up 75% of the failure to each cause.

    Blacks? American blacks are probably the saddest case in human history. Let’s say the Whig theory of history is true, stays true, and time travelers offer to take your family 50,000 years into the future. Should you go? The experience of American blacks says Hell, no! It is just not possible to miss 50,000 years of selection, and then hit the ground running. Even being about a fifth white, blacks lived in the richest society humanity has ever seen. Their biggest contribution to science was that some of them did not get syphilis treatment. Not to mention that was not even important science.

    Even in sports and politics, the only areas blacks have had any “success” they have not built on it. Some guy punches real good (yeah, I know really well, I just cannot bring myself to type that thought in proper English) Punchy gets rich. Punchy has a post-punching life as an icon of civil rights. Liberal boomers and SportCux would have paid him an arbitrarily large sum to stand next to a product and shake (Parkinson’s caused by punchy gettin’ punched). Set for life, what does his daughter do? Does she set up a foundation? Even just to have a career going around telling black kids “my father, Punchy, lived a punching life punching people so you can punch things with your minds, not your fists.” Nope! She went into girl punching! Have no idea what happened in Girl Punchy’s girl punching career, and I’m too lazy to DuckDuckGo find out.

    So that’s a synecdoche of black “success” in sports. How about politics? I’ll just sum this up with a question. Are blacks better off today for having a black political class than they would have been with paternalistic whites in charge of them? Sort of like an internal Peace Corps or domestic Bureau of Colonial Affairs. Please don’t answer with “of course they are better off with what really happened! Some black politician got a lot of money!” This is a holistic assessment. All those black men in prison, would they be there if segregation had not ended, and whites had not had to flee black crime, thereby depriving blacks of jobs as domestics and unskilled labor. If they had been held to paternalistic white standards, if the welfare money had not flowed to unwed mothers and their bastard children, would mass incarceration have been necessary?

    Maybe I should not be looking for great minds in blacks and Indians. Perhaps great minds can only express themselves in countries that are at the forefront of technology and science, like, um, America? How have run-of-the-mill black minds performed in America? They have not had a stellar run. There are next to no blacks at the heights of objective fields who got there on intellectual ability. To be fair, Black Science Man is a very appealing popularizer. Not sure if he inspires da yoof that the liberal intelligentsia wants him to, or if he just gives liberals a frisson of Feeling Officially Not Racist and a safe thrill of sexual danger — for both women and men.

    Really, what are the five things a black person has achieved after Darwin died that make anyone, even the Officially Not Racist Black Science Man fans think “Darwin? Oh, yeah. [yawns] Natural selection was impressive by the standards of the eighteen fifties. But these achievements by people that Darwin racistly called “lower races” put his “scientific achievement” into the dustbin where it belongs. Achievements like…” and fill in the ellipses.

    It seems that the nineteenth and early twentieth century eugenicists are being canceled not because they were wrong, but because, with another century and a half of experience, it is self-evidently obvious that Darwin, Huxley, et al (shoutout to my man Punnett!) were right. Unlike 191x, modern men have the experience of dealing with all races of men nearly daily. We can all see, even blacks (because Everyone Knows) what was once apparent to Great Men.

    • Agree: Charon
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Rob

    Just one point:

    Blacks are who they are. As is the case for all of us.

    I think it was a grievous mistake for whites to bring blacks--and their issues--to the Americas. (And really dumb for Euros--with the benefit of the American experience!--to let them into Europe.) But all that said, our problem is not "blacks" nor any other underperforming peoples. With truth, those are all painful but tractable issues.

    No, the problem is minoritarianism. Its cavalcade of lies to blame ordinary white people for black dysfunction--and all the other "diversity" of outcome in the world--in order to degrade and deny whites their nations.

    And blacks are not responsible for that ideology, for all that propaganda.

    Replies: @Polistra

    , @Macumazahn
    @Rob

    Still waiting for the African Ramanujan...

  21. Imperial College London’s historical links to the British empire

    “Imperial College” – I don’t think that name will survive much longer.

    UCL (University College London) renamed the Galton lecture theatre to “lecture theatre 115” ‘cos bad boy Sir Francis Galton first coined the term “eugenics” in 1883. He was a pioneering mathematician and one of our greatest scientists, but that didn’t save him from the cancel mob.

    Someone has to stand up to these philistines, and it won’t be our so-called “Conservative” government.

  22. Well those old English bulldogs resembled the American bulldog more than they do modern day English bulldog. Everyone knows that the American bulldog use to be referred to as the “plantation dog” back in the day. haha. Only kidding.

  23. @Reg Cæsar

    Maybe Wernher gets cancelled, but the Beits?

     

    Wernher = Huxley = Chauvin
    Beit = Darwin = Baldwin

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Maybe Wernher gets cancelled, but the Beits?

    Wernher = Huxley = Chauvin
    Beit = Darwin = Baldwin

    )))Wernher((( gets cancelled,
    but the (((Beits)))?

    • Replies: @Fhjjjkjcdddbb
    @Almost Missouri

    ‘Xac’ly

  24. Satan, get thee behind me!

  25. @Rob
    @Buffalo Joe

    Not to mention, exactly what have blacks and (tepee) Indians done post-Darwin and Huxley thinking about them that offers proof, or any evidence that the greats were wrong? Has there been a single impressive mostly-Indian Hispanic in any field ever? Before you answer with a politician or athlete, the fact that you were going to answer with a pol or sporty spice pretty much makes the point.

    I think it’s pretty fair to say that given the success of Anglo societies around the world and the mediocrity (at best) of Latin America, that there are two candidates for the failure of the latter. Miscegenation or peninsular culture. I tend to be a both/and kind of person, so I’m willing to chalk up 75% of the failure to each cause.

    Blacks? American blacks are probably the saddest case in human history. Let’s say the Whig theory of history is true, stays true, and time travelers offer to take your family 50,000 years into the future. Should you go? The experience of American blacks says Hell, no! It is just not possible to miss 50,000 years of selection, and then hit the ground running. Even being about a fifth white, blacks lived in the richest society humanity has ever seen. Their biggest contribution to science was that some of them did not get syphilis treatment. Not to mention that was not even important science.

    Even in sports and politics, the only areas blacks have had any “success” they have not built on it. Some guy punches real good (yeah, I know really well, I just cannot bring myself to type that thought in proper English) Punchy gets rich. Punchy has a post-punching life as an icon of civil rights. Liberal boomers and SportCux would have paid him an arbitrarily large sum to stand next to a product and shake (Parkinson’s caused by punchy gettin’ punched). Set for life, what does his daughter do? Does she set up a foundation? Even just to have a career going around telling black kids “my father, Punchy, lived a punching life punching people so you can punch things with your minds, not your fists.” Nope! She went into girl punching! Have no idea what happened in Girl Punchy’s girl punching career, and I’m too lazy to DuckDuckGo find out.

    So that’s a synecdoche of black “success” in sports. How about politics? I’ll just sum this up with a question. Are blacks better off today for having a black political class than they would have been with paternalistic whites in charge of them? Sort of like an internal Peace Corps or domestic Bureau of Colonial Affairs. Please don’t answer with “of course they are better off with what really happened! Some black politician got a lot of money!” This is a holistic assessment. All those black men in prison, would they be there if segregation had not ended, and whites had not had to flee black crime, thereby depriving blacks of jobs as domestics and unskilled labor. If they had been held to paternalistic white standards, if the welfare money had not flowed to unwed mothers and their bastard children, would mass incarceration have been necessary?

    Maybe I should not be looking for great minds in blacks and Indians. Perhaps great minds can only express themselves in countries that are at the forefront of technology and science, like, um, America? How have run-of-the-mill black minds performed in America? They have not had a stellar run. There are next to no blacks at the heights of objective fields who got there on intellectual ability. To be fair, Black Science Man is a very appealing popularizer. Not sure if he inspires da yoof that the liberal intelligentsia wants him to, or if he just gives liberals a frisson of Feeling Officially Not Racist and a safe thrill of sexual danger — for both women and men.

    Really, what are the five things a black person has achieved after Darwin died that make anyone, even the Officially Not Racist Black Science Man fans think “Darwin? Oh, yeah. [yawns] Natural selection was impressive by the standards of the eighteen fifties. But these achievements by people that Darwin racistly called “lower races” put his “scientific achievement” into the dustbin where it belongs. Achievements like…” and fill in the ellipses.

    It seems that the nineteenth and early twentieth century eugenicists are being canceled not because they were wrong, but because, with another century and a half of experience, it is self-evidently obvious that Darwin, Huxley, et al (shoutout to my man Punnett!) were right. Unlike 191x, modern men have the experience of dealing with all races of men nearly daily. We can all see, even blacks (because Everyone Knows) what was once apparent to Great Men.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Macumazahn

    Just one point:

    Blacks are who they are. As is the case for all of us.

    I think it was a grievous mistake for whites to bring blacks–and their issues–to the Americas. (And really dumb for Euros–with the benefit of the American experience!–to let them into Europe.) But all that said, our problem is not “blacks” nor any other underperforming peoples. With truth, those are all painful but tractable issues.

    No, the problem is minoritarianism. Its cavalcade of lies to blame ordinary white people for black dysfunction–and all the other “diversity” of outcome in the world–in order to degrade and deny whites their nations.

    And blacks are not responsible for that ideology, for all that propaganda.

    • Agree: Boomthorkell
    • Replies: @Polistra
    @AnotherDad


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    Behold! My application essay for Stanford!
  26. Nobody will defend scientists because so many scientists have become d**ks and have allowed their profession to become a cult – the cult of scientism.

    Personally, I look forward to pointing and at all those people who have Darwin Fish bumperstickers and sputtering “Racist! Racist! You may as well have a confederate flag on your car!”

  27. @martin_2
    Suppose these eminent Victorian scientists had written that they believed the Chinese were less intelligent than Europeans. Since this is manifestly untrue, no-one would get upset about what they believed and want to erase them from history. It would just be something about which they were wrong. But what they believed about racial hierarchy in intelligence happens to be true, so it cannot be mocked, or given in a history of science lesson as an example of false scientific hypothesis, but instead the authors must be removed from the historical record.

    If the libtards really believed that the races of man all had ther same intelligence then they would welcome scientific investigation into the subject, confident that they would be proved correct.

    Replies: @Polistra

    Eugenics is this totally discredited notion the Nazis had, that by improving the human race we could somehow improve the human condition. Which is a concept so ridiculous that it makes me want to laugh out loud and chortle.

    Everyone who’s anyone knows there’s no such thing as race. Soon, once the last white person has been exterminated, there will be no more Nazis either. Then we all have big party!

    • Replies: @Prof. Woland
    @Polistra

    They will still be living rent free in your mind.

  28. @AnotherDad
    @Rob

    Just one point:

    Blacks are who they are. As is the case for all of us.

    I think it was a grievous mistake for whites to bring blacks--and their issues--to the Americas. (And really dumb for Euros--with the benefit of the American experience!--to let them into Europe.) But all that said, our problem is not "blacks" nor any other underperforming peoples. With truth, those are all painful but tractable issues.

    No, the problem is minoritarianism. Its cavalcade of lies to blame ordinary white people for black dysfunction--and all the other "diversity" of outcome in the world--in order to degrade and deny whites their nations.

    And blacks are not responsible for that ideology, for all that propaganda.

    Replies: @Polistra

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    Behold! My application essay for Stanford!

  29. Yessss! Democrats have figured out how to fix the skyrocketing crime problem! Wait for it….drum roll please…THROW MONEY AT IT!

    If the killings intensify, simply pay the killers more money! What could

    possibly

  30. This is something I actually know about.

    Immigrants tend to see statues and busts and names.

    Natives do not.

    White people for example have no idea who are the statues in Union Square, NY. In fact, I know Times Square better than almost anyone and I don’t recall the name of the most prominently located statue in all of New York, of some catholic police chaplain or something.

    Low Self Esteem has an effect. In the children of immigrants it often has the effect of them noticing every last name and visage that isn’t like their own. They are DEEPLY ASHAMED of the historyless of their own peoples (bear in mind that they are the chuldren of traitors to their homelands so their discomfort is special and large).

    So they want as many of these reminders as possible to be disappeared.

    Please believe me that it ALL comes down to their belief that white people see these statues and then think to themselves, “huh, all the great people are white, that Bengali guy is a loser descended from losers”.

    But in reality white people don’t even notice the statues.

    • Agree: Boomthorkell
    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
    @Undisclosed

    Late stage decadence.

    No one really cares about the old heroes.

  31. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, that Barack Obama fellow is betraying his rich, white upbringing to divulge our most closely guarded White People Secrets:

    https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1453015091562041349?s=20

    Replies: @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Fhjjjkjcdddbb, @Goddard

    Turns out Bruce’s Dad was right about Bruce all along. He is a mega-SWPL pansy, isn’t he?

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
  32. “the dangerous and false ideology of eugenics”

    Literally EVERYONE thinks eugenics is NOT dangerous and is TRUE. Shit, it is true BY DEFINITION. “Eu-” means good, and it is logically (or linguistically) impossible to think that good is worse than bad.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @ben tillman

    True, come to think of it. So it's only a matter of how you define eugenics, i.e., whose genes are most worthy of being reproduced and multiplied? Today, the answer to that question would be, "Just about anybody's except whites'". And those of traitors, sexual deviants and criminals.

    , @El Dato
    @ben tillman

    The funny part is when "the dangerous and false ideology of eugenics" will be applied in grand style as is bound to happen eventually and there will be a great moaning and they will say "but we banished the thought and even word!" and the hovering killer robot (100% non-racist AI and trained to recognize faces of underserved minorities) will just go "I have my list. You are on it." and zap the goodthinker and that will be that. No need for rail tracks to Auschwitz even.

  33. @Undisclosed
    This is something I actually know about.

    Immigrants tend to see statues and busts and names.

    Natives do not.

    White people for example have no idea who are the statues in Union Square, NY. In fact, I know Times Square better than almost anyone and I don't recall the name of the most prominently located statue in all of New York, of some catholic police chaplain or something.

    Low Self Esteem has an effect. In the children of immigrants it often has the effect of them noticing every last name and visage that isn't like their own. They are DEEPLY ASHAMED of the historyless of their own peoples (bear in mind that they are the chuldren of traitors to their homelands so their discomfort is special and large).

    So they want as many of these reminders as possible to be disappeared.

    Please believe me that it ALL comes down to their belief that white people see these statues and then think to themselves, "huh, all the great people are white, that Bengali guy is a loser descended from losers".

    But in reality white people don't even notice the statues.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell

    Late stage decadence.

    No one really cares about the old heroes.

  34. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, that Barack Obama fellow is betraying his rich, white upbringing to divulge our most closely guarded White People Secrets:

    https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1453015091562041349?s=20

    Replies: @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Fhjjjkjcdddbb, @Goddard

    BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN FANS loved Clarence Clemmons [sic] but only “on-stage”

    The best part of Springsteen records was when he shut up and let Clemons and the others play. His second album, The Wild, the Innocent & the E Street Shuffle, was almost all like this.

    It was recorded in lilywhite Blauvelt in Rockland County. Were the locals really that mean to Clarence, we’d have heard about it before this, wouldn’t we?

    • Disagree: Abolish_public_education
    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yeah, because if there's one thing that 50 some odd years of life experience has taught me is that white guys like to go up to big black guys in bars and start calling them the n-word. I grew up in lily-white North Dakota and there was a fight between one of the few black guys in the school and a big old Indian bully. The black kid broke the Indian's nose w/one punch and the fight was over and he became the school hero for the day. If that kid was ever called n*gger, I never heard it. In fact kids went out of their way to cultivate him as a friend.

  35. The GOPs always roll over. Even if it’s only out of spite (though there’s plenty of principle to go on) they should be on a hair-trigger, ready to respond to any DEM-backed cancellation call with a cancellation demand of their own. For instance, the comeuppance of progressive icon, Japanese-American hater (and infamous assassination investigation whitewasher) Earl Warren.

    In California alone, his name is attached to a:

    • public school (insensitively close to Manzanar, of all places),
    • public college (UCSD),
    • state highway (Alameda County),
    • etc.

    Alternatively, they should insist that the bridge in Chappaquiddick be named in honor of Mary Jo. That sort of thing.

  36. These people make Soapy Sam Wilberforce look like a paragon of scientific impartiality.

  37. @ben tillman
    "the dangerous and false ideology of eugenics"

    Literally EVERYONE thinks eugenics is NOT dangerous and is TRUE. Shit, it is true BY DEFINITION. "Eu-" means good, and it is logically (or linguistically) impossible to think that good is worse than bad.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @El Dato

    True, come to think of it. So it’s only a matter of how you define eugenics, i.e., whose genes are most worthy of being reproduced and multiplied? Today, the answer to that question would be, “Just about anybody’s except whites’”. And those of traitors, sexual deviants and criminals.

  38. @Rob
    @Buffalo Joe

    Not to mention, exactly what have blacks and (tepee) Indians done post-Darwin and Huxley thinking about them that offers proof, or any evidence that the greats were wrong? Has there been a single impressive mostly-Indian Hispanic in any field ever? Before you answer with a politician or athlete, the fact that you were going to answer with a pol or sporty spice pretty much makes the point.

    I think it’s pretty fair to say that given the success of Anglo societies around the world and the mediocrity (at best) of Latin America, that there are two candidates for the failure of the latter. Miscegenation or peninsular culture. I tend to be a both/and kind of person, so I’m willing to chalk up 75% of the failure to each cause.

    Blacks? American blacks are probably the saddest case in human history. Let’s say the Whig theory of history is true, stays true, and time travelers offer to take your family 50,000 years into the future. Should you go? The experience of American blacks says Hell, no! It is just not possible to miss 50,000 years of selection, and then hit the ground running. Even being about a fifth white, blacks lived in the richest society humanity has ever seen. Their biggest contribution to science was that some of them did not get syphilis treatment. Not to mention that was not even important science.

    Even in sports and politics, the only areas blacks have had any “success” they have not built on it. Some guy punches real good (yeah, I know really well, I just cannot bring myself to type that thought in proper English) Punchy gets rich. Punchy has a post-punching life as an icon of civil rights. Liberal boomers and SportCux would have paid him an arbitrarily large sum to stand next to a product and shake (Parkinson’s caused by punchy gettin’ punched). Set for life, what does his daughter do? Does she set up a foundation? Even just to have a career going around telling black kids “my father, Punchy, lived a punching life punching people so you can punch things with your minds, not your fists.” Nope! She went into girl punching! Have no idea what happened in Girl Punchy’s girl punching career, and I’m too lazy to DuckDuckGo find out.

    So that’s a synecdoche of black “success” in sports. How about politics? I’ll just sum this up with a question. Are blacks better off today for having a black political class than they would have been with paternalistic whites in charge of them? Sort of like an internal Peace Corps or domestic Bureau of Colonial Affairs. Please don’t answer with “of course they are better off with what really happened! Some black politician got a lot of money!” This is a holistic assessment. All those black men in prison, would they be there if segregation had not ended, and whites had not had to flee black crime, thereby depriving blacks of jobs as domestics and unskilled labor. If they had been held to paternalistic white standards, if the welfare money had not flowed to unwed mothers and their bastard children, would mass incarceration have been necessary?

    Maybe I should not be looking for great minds in blacks and Indians. Perhaps great minds can only express themselves in countries that are at the forefront of technology and science, like, um, America? How have run-of-the-mill black minds performed in America? They have not had a stellar run. There are next to no blacks at the heights of objective fields who got there on intellectual ability. To be fair, Black Science Man is a very appealing popularizer. Not sure if he inspires da yoof that the liberal intelligentsia wants him to, or if he just gives liberals a frisson of Feeling Officially Not Racist and a safe thrill of sexual danger — for both women and men.

    Really, what are the five things a black person has achieved after Darwin died that make anyone, even the Officially Not Racist Black Science Man fans think “Darwin? Oh, yeah. [yawns] Natural selection was impressive by the standards of the eighteen fifties. But these achievements by people that Darwin racistly called “lower races” put his “scientific achievement” into the dustbin where it belongs. Achievements like…” and fill in the ellipses.

    It seems that the nineteenth and early twentieth century eugenicists are being canceled not because they were wrong, but because, with another century and a half of experience, it is self-evidently obvious that Darwin, Huxley, et al (shoutout to my man Punnett!) were right. Unlike 191x, modern men have the experience of dealing with all races of men nearly daily. We can all see, even blacks (because Everyone Knows) what was once apparent to Great Men.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Macumazahn

    Still waiting for the African Ramanujan…

  39. Anonymous[415] • Disclaimer says:

    Thomas Henry Huxley – truly one of the giants of Victorian British science.

    Ironically, TH Huxley was a leading figure in the ‘Jamaica Committee’ a committee of the British ‘great and good’ which was deeply concerned with the harsh retribution executed by British crown forces in colonial Jamaica after putting down a serious, violent black insurrection.
    But all that counts for nought.

  40. Back in my college days I saw a copy of the autobiography of H.G. Wells sitting on a shelf in the college library. Having read several of his scifi novels, I was curious enough to look at it. He was a big admirer of Huxley and Huxley was a major influence on his decision to pursue a science career.

    Wells was an advocate of eugenics and you can find derogatory remarks about nonwhites in his writings. His socialism so far has prevented him from getting canceled. In addition to that, most of his nonfiction works have also sunk far enough into obscurity that very few people would ever run across them. I have a friend who was surprised when I told him that, in addition to science fiction, Wells wrote nonfiction works plus several Dickensian novels about lower class life in the Britain of his day. Several of his early science fiction novels, though, like War of the Worlds or The Time Machine can still be found in a lot of libraries. I think it is only a matter of time before calls are made to sweep all those off library shelves.

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
    @Mark G.

    In the early 20th Century, many socialists such as H. G. Wells believed in eugenics. As did feminists, including Emmeline Pankhurst. If it is really his belief in eugenics that makes Thomas Henry Huxley fit for cancellation, then Pankhurst and Wells should be cancelled too.

    Of course, they will not be cancelled. The real reason for cancellation is not that a person believed in eugenics, but that he had the effrontery to be a high-achieving straight white cisgendered male.

  41. @Hans Tholstrup
    Aren't there plenty of people and organizations that advise 'pregnant persons' that they can detect Down Syndrome in the fetus - and then abort it? And isn't that precisely an example of eugenics??
    Time for some counterattacking: put these wokesters on the spot and get them to condemn Down screening!

    Replies: @jamie b.

    And isn’t that precisely an example of eugenics??

    Not in the case of Down Syndrome, which isn’t inheritable.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @jamie b.

    It actually is. It's just not immediately noticeable because more than half of the fetuses resulting from fusion of trisomal gamete with a normal gamete ultimately end up being miscarriaged.

    , @Rob
    @jamie b.

    Ackshually, there is a kind of downs syndrome that is inheritable, but it’s not a trisomy, an extra copy of chromosome 21, but the result of a duplication (i think - might be balanced -- translocation) of all or part of chromosome 21 is copied (or moved) to another chromosome -- the internet tells me it’s usually chromosome 10.

    People with familial Downs are not sterile, but they have reduced fertility.

    In genetics class, I was told that people with trisomies were infertile. They could do mitosis (asexual cell division) but their cells could not pass a checkpoint in meiosis (sex cell production). A quick internet search showed a paper about male mice with a sex chromosome trisomy sometimes lost the extra X chromosome.

    Regardless, one might think that the tendency to have sperm/eggs (probably eggs) with trisomies could be genetically influenced, though I don’t know if this has been studied. Certainly there are proteins ehose job it is to ensure proper segregation, so mutations in these genes are possible.

  42. Anonymous[415] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Notably, the same report (https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/administration-and-support-services/equality/public/history-group/History-Group-Report---October-2021.pdf) also recommends renaming of lecture halls named after two more science greats: Ronald Fisher (foundational contributions to statistics and notable applications in genetics) and John Haldane (one of the founders of quantitative genetics; the illiterate assholes in this committee even managed to mis-spell his surname).

    The list of people who need to be celebrated is predictable: Browns, blacks and women with relatively minor contributions.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Haldane was a committed Marxist, ironically enough, who defended Lysenko.

    Those dolts don’t even understand the characters – let alone the writings – of the men they seek to destroy.

    The were white, male, middle class and, horror of horrors ” waah, mommy those nasty men were eugenicists!!!! ” – that in itself is enough to tear them down.

    ‘Eugenicists” – a label those babbling childish fools don’t even understand, but you know, it just *sounds* evil, just like ‘Nazi’ does, and it’s a dirty word, just like ‘ass’ is a dirty word.

  43. Biologist Jerry Coyne defends Huxley. He wanted to abolish slavery.

  44. Cancelling the Ur-Huxley sounds so Orwell meets The Terminator. Is it any coincidence that movie was released in 1984?

  45. They hated him because he told the truth.

  46. Here in the Eugenics Kingdom the face of Darwin ‘The Big One’ was removed from the £10 note in March 2018. Replaced by that of Jane Austen, best known for her novel ‘Gay Pride and Race Prejudice’, or something. Since she looks like a Becky from central casting, her stay on the note will likely be brief, to be replaced by some second generation Somali immigrant icon with acclaimed prowess in stabby studies. Anyway, the airbrushing from the notes of the realm was a warm up for the general defenestration of the evil Darwin.

  47. @ben tillman
    "the dangerous and false ideology of eugenics"

    Literally EVERYONE thinks eugenics is NOT dangerous and is TRUE. Shit, it is true BY DEFINITION. "Eu-" means good, and it is logically (or linguistically) impossible to think that good is worse than bad.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @El Dato

    The funny part is when “the dangerous and false ideology of eugenics” will be applied in grand style as is bound to happen eventually and there will be a great moaning and they will say “but we banished the thought and even word!” and the hovering killer robot (100% non-racist AI and trained to recognize faces of underserved minorities) will just go “I have my list. You are on it.” and zap the goodthinker and that will be that. No need for rail tracks to Auschwitz even.

  48. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, that Barack Obama fellow is betraying his rich, white upbringing to divulge our most closely guarded White People Secrets:

    https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1453015091562041349?s=20

    Replies: @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Fhjjjkjcdddbb, @Goddard

    Yeah, the only white guys calling Clarence Clemons a n*gger in a bar were cross-eyed drunk or suicidal. Clemons wasn’t called Big Man for nothing. That’s why ole Clarence had so many anecdotes about him being called that word in bars by white bullies and also why he over-compensated by marrying a white girl.

  49. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN FANS loved Clarence Clemmons [sic] but only "on-stage"
     
    The best part of Springsteen records was when he shut up and let Clemons and the others play. His second album, The Wild, the Innocent & the E Street Shuffle, was almost all like this.

    It was recorded in lilywhite Blauvelt in Rockland County. Were the locals really that mean to Clarence, we'd have heard about it before this, wouldn't we?

    Replies: @duncsbaby

    Yeah, because if there’s one thing that 50 some odd years of life experience has taught me is that white guys like to go up to big black guys in bars and start calling them the n-word. I grew up in lily-white North Dakota and there was a fight between one of the few black guys in the school and a big old Indian bully. The black kid broke the Indian’s nose w/one punch and the fight was over and he became the school hero for the day. If that kid was ever called n*gger, I never heard it. In fact kids went out of their way to cultivate him as a friend.

  50. @Daniel H

    An investigation into Imperial College London’s historical links to the British empire has recommended the university remove a statue and rename buildings and lecture theatres that celebrate scientists whose work advocated eugenics and racism.
     
    Ha, ha. I encourage this. There is still a lot of ruin to go.

    Why not:

    An investigation into the United Kingdom's historical links to the British empire has recommended that the nation cancel and rename itself due to the empire's association with eugenics, racism, colonialism.....
     

    Replies: @tyrone

    South Doggerland?

  51. Eugenics is normal and natural. Don’t people naturally seek mates of the same race and opposite sex (usually), the same age or younger and in excellent health?

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Sick of Orcs


    Don’t people naturally seek mates of the same race and opposite sex (usually), the same age or younger and in excellent health?
     
    They'll outlaw that too if they get the chance. The time may come when you'll have to marry a mentally ill "woman" who sliced off his genitals.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

  52. @jamie b.
    @Hans Tholstrup


    And isn’t that precisely an example of eugenics??
     
    Not in the case of Down Syndrome, which isn't inheritable.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Rob

    It actually is. It’s just not immediately noticeable because more than half of the fetuses resulting from fusion of trisomal gamete with a normal gamete ultimately end up being miscarriaged.

  53. @Mark G.
    Back in my college days I saw a copy of the autobiography of H.G. Wells sitting on a shelf in the college library. Having read several of his scifi novels, I was curious enough to look at it. He was a big admirer of Huxley and Huxley was a major influence on his decision to pursue a science career.

    Wells was an advocate of eugenics and you can find derogatory remarks about nonwhites in his writings. His socialism so far has prevented him from getting canceled. In addition to that, most of his nonfiction works have also sunk far enough into obscurity that very few people would ever run across them. I have a friend who was surprised when I told him that, in addition to science fiction, Wells wrote nonfiction works plus several Dickensian novels about lower class life in the Britain of his day. Several of his early science fiction novels, though, like War of the Worlds or The Time Machine can still be found in a lot of libraries. I think it is only a matter of time before calls are made to sweep all those off library shelves.

    Replies: @James N. Kennett

    In the early 20th Century, many socialists such as H. G. Wells believed in eugenics. As did feminists, including Emmeline Pankhurst. If it is really his belief in eugenics that makes Thomas Henry Huxley fit for cancellation, then Pankhurst and Wells should be cancelled too.

    Of course, they will not be cancelled. The real reason for cancellation is not that a person believed in eugenics, but that he had the effrontery to be a high-achieving straight white cisgendered male.

  54. Are there statues of Dostoevsky in Britain?

    Well, if yes ….

    https://pages.uoregon.edu/kimball/DstF.Puw.lct.htm#DstF.Puw.lct
    PUSHKIN SPEECH

    Yes, beyond all doubt, the destiny of a Russian is pan-European and universal. To become a true Russian, to become fully Russian (and you should remember this), means only to become the brother of all men, to become, if you will, a universal man. Oh, all our Slavophilism and Westernism is only a great misunderstanding, even though historically necessary. To a true Russian, Europe and the destiny of all the mighty Aryan race is as dear as Russia herself, as dear as the destiny of his own native country. This is so because our destiny is universality, won not by the sword, but by the strength of brotherhood and our fraternal aspiration to reunite mankind.

    Which mankind?

    What about the founders of “scientific socialism”? And followers?

    https://eu.newsherald.com/story/opinion/2020/08/16/many-marxists-dont-realize-their-hero-racist-and-anti-semite/3369024001/
    …………………………………………………
    When the U.S. annexed California after the Mexican-American War, Marx wrote: “Without violence nothing is ever accomplished in history.” Then he asked, “Is it a misfortune that magnificent California was seized from the lazy Mexicans who did not know what to do with it?” Friedrich Engels added: “In America we have witnessed the conquest of Mexico and have rejoiced at it. It is to the interest of its own development that Mexico will be placed under the tutelage of the United States.” Many of Marx’s racist ideas were reported in “Karl Marx, Racist” a book written by Nathaniel Weyl, a former member of the U.S. Communist Party.

    In 1887, Paul Lafargue, who was Marx’s son-in-law, was a candidate for a council seat in a Paris district that contained a zoo. Engels claimed that Paul had “one eighth or one twelfth nigger blood.” In an April 1887 letter to Paul’s wife, Engels wrote, “Being in his quality as a nigger, a degree nearer to the rest of the animal kingdom than the rest of us, he is undoubtedly the most appropriate representative of that district.”
    ………………………………………………………
    Marx’s philosophical successors shared ugly thoughts on blacks and other minorities. Che Guevara, a hero of the left, was a horrific racist. He wrote in his 1952 memoir, “The Motorcycle Diaries”: “The Negro is indolent and lazy and spends his money on frivolities, whereas the European is forward-looking, organized and intelligent.”

    And Dickens?

    Eh….

    • Thanks: El Dato
  55. @Emil Nikola Richard
    They are shooting themselves in the foot. The largest material effect is going to be people going back and reading for themselves what Huxley, Darwin, et al said about the different races. There is a bunch of factual racism in there because very often the facts are racist. The clever move here is to ignore these men altogether.

    I was reading History of Magic by Ennemoser the other day (19th c. doctor and student of Mesmer) and he casually mentions that Africans are good at running and jumping because they are closer to monkeys biologically than other races who can't jump as well. You can get his book at archive.org although it is obscure in the the modern zeitgeist. It is an excellent book. Sometimes the thing to do is let sleeping dogs lie.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland, @Prester John

    It could be argued that Darwinism peaked with the Nazis taking biology and race to ad absurdum levels. It has been dwindling since then as people look for other ways, most of them lacking, of explaining the world and who we are. Prior to that after turning away from religion there was Transcendentalism and the enlightenment.

    Looking back at 2021 we will probably see that we were at another deflection point. Only now ‘equality’ will be the polar opposite of natural selection. Having more than two sexes, Trans issues, and feminism’s revolt against nature will be seen for the absurdities that they are. By the time we recognize it will will be bouncing back towards the other pole in an odd new direction.

  56. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, that Barack Obama fellow is betraying his rich, white upbringing to divulge our most closely guarded White People Secrets:

    https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1453015091562041349?s=20

    Replies: @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Fhjjjkjcdddbb, @Goddard

    Clemons turned every Springsteen song into “Yakety Sax”. I can’t say he ruined any Springsteen song — Bruce already took care of that.

    • LOL: The Alarmist
  57. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "They don’t quite have the nerve to cancel Darwin yet, but they are working their way up to the big guy."

    Sooner than you think. Just as soon as they finish the final chapters of The Descent of Man, especially the parts that relate to Negroid and other non-Caucasian race.

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    I haven’t read it, but my relative did and was quite shocked at Darwin’s racial stupidity. Apparently the indigenous people of the tip of South America are essentially animals and the Scots are quite close to perfection. Ha!

  58. I wonder when it will be Margaret Sanger’s turn?

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    @Enzo the Baker

    I thought Keynes was going to be cancelled last year but then these fools moved on to something else ( I guess they got bored cancelling dead people ) it's hard to gauge exactly why someone is cancelled and others are forgotten about. Maybe no one anymore among the wokeists knows who Wells, Keynes, or Sanger is or what they did. I think there was a push in 2019 to cancel Gandhi, but now it seems to have been forgotten about.

  59. @Almost Missouri
    @Reg Cæsar



    Maybe Wernher gets cancelled, but the Beits?
     
    Wernher = Huxley = Chauvin
    Beit = Darwin = Baldwin
     
    )))Wernher((( gets cancelled,
    but the (((Beits)))?

    Replies: @Fhjjjkjcdddbb

    ‘Xac’ly

  60. “Alfred and Otto Beit”

    Cancelling jews is anti-semitic.

  61. @Polistra
    @martin_2

    Eugenics is this totally discredited notion the Nazis had, that by improving the human race we could somehow improve the human condition. Which is a concept so ridiculous that it makes me want to laugh out loud and chortle.

    Everyone who's anyone knows there's no such thing as race. Soon, once the last white person has been exterminated, there will be no more Nazis either. Then we all have big party!

    Replies: @Prof. Woland

    They will still be living rent free in your mind.

  62. @Sick of Orcs
    Eugenics is normal and natural. Don't people naturally seek mates of the same race and opposite sex (usually), the same age or younger and in excellent health?

    Replies: @Rob McX

    Don’t people naturally seek mates of the same race and opposite sex (usually), the same age or younger and in excellent health?

    They’ll outlaw that too if they get the chance. The time may come when you’ll have to marry a mentally ill “woman” who sliced off his genitals.

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs
    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Rob McX


    The time may come when you’ll have to marry a mentally ill “woman” who sliced off his genitals.
     
    On the bright side, the pension of a USPHS “Admiral” ain’t nothing to sneeze at.
  63. Anon[986] • Disclaimer says:

    Darwin will not have to be cancelled. He will be forgotten entirely in “the West”, along with most if not all of our modernity, much like the Wernhers and the Beits are completely forgotten now. It is all of one piece and when it goes (civilization) it is all going to go.

  64. So in other words every single White guy = racist. yawn. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  65. Margaret Fishenden (1889-1977) and Constance Tipper (1894-1995) seem to have done good, but not ground-breaking, work in the 1930s and 40s and were rightly honoured with awards named after them. But is it quite definite that they were ahead of their age in their views about race? I would not want to knock women who made their mark in science in those days, but one advantage of promoting (to be frank) third-tier figures is that they did not leave a mass of incriminating evidence behind them.

  66. @Enzo the Baker
    I wonder when it will be Margaret Sanger's turn?

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow

    I thought Keynes was going to be cancelled last year but then these fools moved on to something else ( I guess they got bored cancelling dead people ) it’s hard to gauge exactly why someone is cancelled and others are forgotten about. Maybe no one anymore among the wokeists knows who Wells, Keynes, or Sanger is or what they did. I think there was a push in 2019 to cancel Gandhi, but now it seems to have been forgotten about.

  67. @Emil Nikola Richard
    They are shooting themselves in the foot. The largest material effect is going to be people going back and reading for themselves what Huxley, Darwin, et al said about the different races. There is a bunch of factual racism in there because very often the facts are racist. The clever move here is to ignore these men altogether.

    I was reading History of Magic by Ennemoser the other day (19th c. doctor and student of Mesmer) and he casually mentions that Africans are good at running and jumping because they are closer to monkeys biologically than other races who can't jump as well. You can get his book at archive.org although it is obscure in the the modern zeitgeist. It is an excellent book. Sometimes the thing to do is let sleeping dogs lie.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland, @Prester John

    I don’t know whether the good doctor was correct about the resemblance between Africans and monkeys in terms of running and jumping but the fact that their American offspring overwhelmingly dominate basketball and football (which place a premium on athleticism) DOES give one pause.

  68. Back a couple of months ago, some of the crazy anti-Vaxxers were denouncing the diabolical plot of Bill Gates to exterminate most of the human race, citing as proof the fact that his father had been a notorious “eugenicist,” and I think my response is appropriate here:

    Having watched those videos and conducted due diligence of our own, we know FOR A FACT that the father of Gates (Bill Gates Sr – who passed away in 2020), was a eugenicist.

    Back in that era, almost every educated person in America and the rest of the West was a “eugenicist.” People who today denounce “eugenics” are like people who denounce “dentistry.” Presumably in a decade or two, lots of people will be saying how horrifying it was that some people used to believe that only women could give birth.

    https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/are-the-opponents-of-the-covid-injections-anti-vaxx-crackpots/?showcomments#comment-4824113

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Ron Unz


    People who today denounce “eugenics” are like people who denounce “dentistry.”
     
    I had my teeth cleaned yesterday, and I swear they have found new ways to make the process far more torturous than it was in years past, but still better than dentistry in the hay days of eugenics.

    That Bill Gates, Jr. is or is not helping to usher in a great culling of humanity won’t be clear for a few more years.
  69. @jamie b.
    @Hans Tholstrup


    And isn’t that precisely an example of eugenics??
     
    Not in the case of Down Syndrome, which isn't inheritable.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Rob

    Ackshually, there is a kind of downs syndrome that is inheritable, but it’s not a trisomy, an extra copy of chromosome 21, but the result of a duplication (i think – might be balanced — translocation) of all or part of chromosome 21 is copied (or moved) to another chromosome — the internet tells me it’s usually chromosome 10.

    People with familial Downs are not sterile, but they have reduced fertility.

    In genetics class, I was told that people with trisomies were infertile. They could do mitosis (asexual cell division) but their cells could not pass a checkpoint in meiosis (sex cell production). A quick internet search showed a paper about male mice with a sex chromosome trisomy sometimes lost the extra X chromosome.

    Regardless, one might think that the tendency to have sperm/eggs (probably eggs) with trisomies could be genetically influenced, though I don’t know if this has been studied. Certainly there are proteins ehose job it is to ensure proper segregation, so mutations in these genes are possible.

  70. Remember the good old days when the left invoked Darwin to skewer fundamentalist Christians. Now that they won that battle they will skewer Darwin with same religious zeal. Thou be woke above all else.

  71. @Rob McX
    @Sick of Orcs


    Don’t people naturally seek mates of the same race and opposite sex (usually), the same age or younger and in excellent health?
     
    They'll outlaw that too if they get the chance. The time may come when you'll have to marry a mentally ill "woman" who sliced off his genitals.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    The time may come when you’ll have to marry a mentally ill “woman” who sliced off his genitals.

    On the bright side, the pension of a USPHS “Admiral” ain’t nothing to sneeze at.

    • LOL: Sick of Orcs, Rob McX
  72. @Ron Unz
    Back a couple of months ago, some of the crazy anti-Vaxxers were denouncing the diabolical plot of Bill Gates to exterminate most of the human race, citing as proof the fact that his father had been a notorious "eugenicist," and I think my response is appropriate here:

    Having watched those videos and conducted due diligence of our own, we know FOR A FACT that the father of Gates (Bill Gates Sr – who passed away in 2020), was a eugenicist.
     
    Back in that era, almost every educated person in America and the rest of the West was a “eugenicist.” People who today denounce “eugenics” are like people who denounce “dentistry.” Presumably in a decade or two, lots of people will be saying how horrifying it was that some people used to believe that only women could give birth.

    https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/are-the-opponents-of-the-covid-injections-anti-vaxx-crackpots/?showcomments#comment-4824113

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    People who today denounce “eugenics” are like people who denounce “dentistry.”

    I had my teeth cleaned yesterday, and I swear they have found new ways to make the process far more torturous than it was in years past, but still better than dentistry in the hay days of eugenics.

    That Bill Gates, Jr. is or is not helping to usher in a great culling of humanity won’t be clear for a few more years.

  73. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, that Barack Obama fellow is betraying his rich, white upbringing to divulge our most closely guarded White People Secrets:

    https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1453015091562041349?s=20

    Replies: @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Fhjjjkjcdddbb, @Goddard

    Bruce Springsteen is a Chardonnay-sippin’ fake workin’ man. Still waiting for his acoustic and soulful “Immigrant Man Stole Away My Living and I’m Down ’n’ Out ’n’ Feelin’ Blue ’n’ I’m on Fentanyl and Boss Man Bought a Pickup ’n’ Big Screen TV with All the Money He Saved Hirin’ Mexicans and It’s All So Dylanesque.”

  74. Andrew Huxley was not a biochemist.

    And BTW let me brag that I once sat at his right, with him sitting at the head of the high table at Trinity College, Cambridge.

    His being former Master of Trinity, and former President of the Royal Society, are even more important than the Nobel Prize.

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