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Czechoslovakia has solved the problem of having a national hero with mortal flaws. In a 2005 poll to find The Greatest Czech, the top vote-getter was the polymath Jára Cimrman (born Zimmerman, but he changed the spelling of his name as an act of Czech nationalism). According to Wikipedia, he was “one of the greatest Czech playwrights, poets, composers, teachers, travellers, philosophers, inventors, detectives, mathematicians, and sportsmen of the 19th and early 20th century.”

Cimrman, also known as the Master, was invented in a 1966 radio program put on by surreptitious dissidents as a joke so arcane and/or inane that the stupid ruling Communists and their Soviet masters would never figure it out. He became a national hero, and the custom was to never admit he wasn’t real.

The Greatest Czech poll was inspired by the 2002 BBC’s Greatest Briton poll, which was won by Winston Churchill barely edging out 19th Century engineer Isambard Kingdom Brunel. Online surveys of the Greatest This or That have a tendency to be hijacked by interest groups, in this case Brunel University students. But British history features so many great individuals that even the beneficiary of the hijacking, Brunel, was awesome.

The Top 25:

Sir Winston Churchill
Isambard Kingdom Brunel
Diana, Princess of Wales

The clean-up hitters 4 thru 6 in the line-up are hard to argue with:

Charles Darwin
William Shakespeare
Sir Isaac Newton

Elizabeth I
John Lennon
Horatio Nelson
Oliver Cromwell
Sir Ernest Shackleton
Captain James Cook
Robert Baden-Powell
Alfred the Great
Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington
Margaret Thatcher
Michael Crawford
Queen Victoria
Sir Paul McCartney
Sir Alexander Fleming
Alan Turing
Michael Faraday
Owain Glyndŵr (Welsh rebel Hotspur in Henry IV, Part 1)
Elizabeth II
Stephen Hawking

As recently as 2002 you can see that Brits interested in British history didn’t care at all about Diversity. The least white person in the top 100 is, I’m guessing, Freddie Mercury, a Parsi whom few in the 1970s noticed wasn’t European.

It’s a pretty good list, perhaps too heavy on scientists/technologists and pop singing stars relative to poets, guitarists, and actors (#96 is Richard Burton, but it’s uncertain whether voters voted for the actor or the explorer), but impressively lacking in 2020-style Diversity Cringe.

 
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  1. LondonBob says:

    Michael Crawford.

    Oooh Betty!

    • Replies: @Rob McX
  2. Neoconned says:

    OT: …..remember the famous story from i think it was JFK’s father who said he knew when to sell hos stocks when shoeshine boys started giving him stock tips….

    Well Tesla is now worth more than Coke and Disney and Toyota….all of whom make actual products.

    I STILL CAN COUNT ON 2 HANDS the number of Teslas ive seen on the road. Like i said maybe its a west coast thing….

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/07/01/investing/tesla-market-value/index.html

    Telsa is my shoeshine boy moment. I know Tesla is some kind of Deep State pet whos spying on all of us kinda like how FB is a glorified ad company with a bit of gaming revenue yet is worth gobs of money thanks to the spooks propping them up with semi state status and funny money accounting gimmicks i dont claim to understand.

    Musk supposedly is having 3somes with Depps ex wife and other supermodels…..

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8438171/amp/Elon-Musk-DENIES-having-threesome-affair-Amber-Heard-Cara-Delevingne.html

    Meanwhile Biden has a 21 point lead over Trump….per the betting markets….

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/moguldom.com/288180/gamblers-betting-on-the-presidential-election-push-joe-biden-to-a-21-point-lead/amp/

  3. @Neoconned

    I’ve seen a lot of Teslas in L.A. since about 2013.

    It’s the only American car brand that has cachet in Europe.

    I wouldn’t buy their stock, but it’s a pretty amazing story that they’ve gotten this far.

  4. @Neoconned

    Teslas are very common here in Hong Kong.

    • Replies: @Escher
  5. Mike Tre says:

    Princess Diana is #3? Whoa.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @tyrone
  6. As recently as 2002, Britain was still >92% White.

    Speaking of White, what are the chances this guy gets elected?

    • Replies: @IHTG
  7. Having spent a significant portion of my life in the Czech Republic, I can confirm the faux reverence in which Czechs of all ages hold Cimrman. I can also confirm that the Cimrman plays are legitimately hilarious.
    One of Cimrman’s creators (and the actor who usually played the part of Cimrman) won an Oscar for best foreign language film with ‘Kolya’ in 1996.

  8. Altai says:

    OT: Fire Island 4th of July 2020 was inexplicably not cancelled.

    In fairness, a lot of the well-off gay men on the circuit scene from NYC are probably on PREP by now and it may confer protection from other retroviruses like Covid-19 too. But as I understand it, most forms of PREP are not typical anti-retrovirals but are more targeted to HIV. But man, the failure of US policy is laid bare as the lockdowns were not early or sharp enough to contain things but it seems like a lot of people have burnt out their desire to continue with them.

    An interesting question is, how long will it take for certain STDs to make a comeback? Was the lockdown enough to reduce their general population prevalence to keep them at a lower level forever? (Outside maybe the guy in that video.)

    • Troll: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @Wilkey
  9. Really, really weird that I’ve just read an email from my Slovak friend after reading this iSteve post by Mr. Sailer. I’ve replied to him, and asked him if Jára Cimrman has dual citizenship now, or whether the Slovaks feel they’ve been robbed of a hero.

    • LOL: The Alarmist, bomag
  10. @Steve Sailer

    If you guys think Tesla is a hoax check out Nikola Motors.

    I do pretty well trading options on both equities.

  11. As recently as 2002 you can see that Brits interested in British history didn’t care at all about Diversity.

    British self-confidence hasn’t declined since 2002, it has fallen off a cliff.

    Correction: Been pushed off a cliff by an unholy alliance of Blairite Labour, the BBC, the universities, the Church of England and pretty much every other part of the Establishment under the mesmeric power of neo-Marxism.

    • Replies: @Curle
  12. And then they came for Lin-Manuel Miranda….

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @J.Ross
    , @Qvax
  13. Rob McX says:
    @LondonBob

    There’s some weird rigging going on there. I’d bet even most Brits have never heard of Crawford.

  14. @Steve Sailer

    “It’s the only American car brand that has cachet in Europe.”

    Agreed. It’s a four-wheeled equivalent of being a wealthy “human rights” lawyer, a la Mark Darcy in Bridget Jones. It says “I’m a deeply caring person who just happens to be loaded“.

  15. theMann says:

    If you make a list of the top 25 Great Americans, include Bruce Lee, Muhammad Ali, and Crazy Horse. All perfectly legitimate picks depending on your POV. Then shove it in the face (oh wait, face diapers) ok, since they insist, up the ass of the Diversity morons. When they have a fit about Lee, and they will, play the Racism card for all it is worth.

    And Bruce Lee is one of the 25 greatest Americans. He almost single-handedly created a revolution of Talent unprecedented in human history, whose consequences still play out for millions of people choosing a path of self discipline focused to higher ends. And picking him as a Great American will absolutely set off every Diversity Moron, SJW warrior ( who are, lets face it, anti-Warrior in every manner), and scolding school Marm Libtard embarrassment to the Schools of America. Especially that last group, who, lets face it, are motivated by pure Racism.

    Hard to say who the most famous Imaginary American is, but my vote goes to Oprah Winfrey.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  16. Gordo says:

    There’s some weird rigging going on there. I’d bet even most Brits have never heard of Crawford.

    Heck no he is a cultural icon for us.

  17. Anon[369] • Disclaimer says:

    Newton was a mean person. And clearly had issues with mental illness.

    The Madness of Sir Isaac Newton
    Marina Jones
    March 27th 2014

    …At times of depression, Newton hallucinated and had conversations with absent people. He became obsessed with religion and immersed himself in alchemy. He spent 25 years in the study of alchemy in secret, searching for mysterious elixirs and writing thousands of pages on the subject…

    Like many people with bipolar disorder, Newton developed grandiose delusions. In his notes on alchemy and religion he wrote that he was appointed by God to bring His truth to the world…

    https://futurism.com/the-madness-of-sir-isaac-newton

    He’s lucky he wasn’t sent to the loony bin. While I don’t know about 17th-century English loony bins, 19th-century ones seemed pretty nice:

    The Derbyshire County Pauper Lunatic Asylum (Eighteenth Annual Report, 1870):

    “…In the Summer, out-door occupations and amusements, and lengthened walks into the surrounding country are provided. From October to the end of March on every Thursday evening there have been instructive and amusing readings, music, songs, dances, and occasional dramatic entertainments. The enlarged Entertainment Room, with its new stage, offers great facilities for these things; and, it may be added, that the pillars of support, in imitation of Derbyshire encrinite marble, the colour-wash of the walls, and the general fittings and proportions of the room elicited warm approval from the Commissioners in Lunacy, as they have from all other visitors to the Asylum…

    It gives me great pleasure to state, in connection with this subject, that on the 20th of August, a very elegant pianoforte was presented to the Wards for the use of the Patients, by Francis Wright, Esq., of Osmaston Manor, which has been a source of enjoyment to many of them.”…

    https://archive.org/details/b30318579/page/6/mode/2up

    Sounds nicer than Passages Malibu.

  18. BB753 says:

    John Lennon? Lol!

  19. Gordo says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Very rare here but big in Norway where there are great tax breaks, Tesla taxis in their big cities!

    We talk the talk about being like Scandinavia but can’t afford to walk the walk.

  20. Ian Smith says:

    Jan Huss would be my vote for Greatest Czech.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @glib
  21. kihowi says:

    No:

    Bertrand Russell
    Thomas Moore
    Bacon (either)
    Samuel Johnson
    Jeremy Bentham
    Oscar Wilde

    And those are just the ones I can think of at the moment. But luckily they do have Eric Morcambe, Boy George, Bob Geldof and Alistair Crowley (MEGA EYEROLL) Even if it must be entertainment figures, Noel Coward is right there.

  22. Anon55uu says:
    @Rob McX

    He was the lead in 1,300 performances of the Phantom of the Opera, so he is hardly obscure.

  23. @Neoconned

    I don’t think you are wrong (that Tesla is probably overpriced). Musk is the P.T. Barnum of the 21st century.

    But I will say that in my suburban Mid-Atlantic university town, the parking lots are lousy with Teslas, particularly the parking lots of expensive private schools, Trader Joes, Starbucks and those sorts of places.

    I cannot imagine paying $60k for a golf cart. The cars are expensive virtue-signaling devices and since I have nobody to whom I care to signal, they aren’t worth the money to me. But virtue-signaling about the environment is big business at least for now. Kind of like tulips in the Netherlands in the 17th century.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Patrick Boyle
  24. IHTG says:
    @The Alarmist

    He’s an Independent troll running in a GOP district.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
  25. “It’s a pretty good list, perhaps too heavy on scientists/technologists and pop singing stars relative to poets, guitarists, and actors…”

    And yet Maxwell doesn’t come in until #91:

    “From a long view of the history of mankind, seen from, say, ten thousand years from now, there can be little doubt that the most significant event of the 19th century will be judged as Maxwell’s discovery of the laws of electrodynamics. The American Civil War will pale into provincial insignificance in comparison with this important scientific event of the same decade.”
    -Richard Feynman

    To me, it would be like putting Max Planck at #91 on a German list.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian, Kyle
  26. Apropos of absolutely nothing:

    The Ur Dog of Jack Russel’s eponymous breed, back in 1819 was called Trump.

    And, as we are finding out. It was a bitch.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Russell_Terrier

  27. I always thought Good Soldier Schweik was the Czech national hero. He’s fictional too.

  28. Anon7 says:
    @Neoconned

    “Well Tesla is now worth more than Coke and Disney and Toyota….all of whom make actual products.”

    So, I’ve got this mirage in my garage…

    My Tesla Model S is a barely-legal, computer-controlled, frequently-updated rocket car from the future. The only people who diss T are people who haven’t tried driving one.

    Tesla has made and sold a million cars so far, and most of their customers seem to like them. The entire future playbook of the world’s automakers has been taken almost verbatim from Elon Musk’s company.

  29. @PiltdownMan

    If so, then Slovaks are appropriating another culture. They’d be wise to Czech their privilege.

    Sorry.

    They hadda tear down his virtual statue, due to his czechered past?

    Is this thing on (tap, tap)?

  30. @Rob McX

    They would in 2002, although this particular sitcom seems to have faded from memory since then. But back in the 70’s and 80’s this was one of the most popular comedies on television, and Michael Crawford was a household name.

  31. Cortes says:

    The Czech poll smells as good as a week-old mackerel. Sticking it to Ivan stuff, just what the political class wanted. Exactly like the “choice” of Churchill in the UK.

    The real Czech hero would probably be the shy, retiring editor of the magazine “Animal World.” Oh, and he wrote some other fiction.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaroslav_Hašek

    • Replies: @Kibernetika
  32. The Greeks ran a similar survey like the Brits. There was some really hitters in their list dominated by modern Greeks (67) and then ancient Greeks (27) and disappointingly only 7 from the Byzantine/Ottoman period. There are some dubious entries like Merkouri and omissions like Ioannis Komnenos, Nikiphoros Phocas and Ioannis Tzimiskis.

    1. Alexander the Great (356BC-323BC)
    2. Georgios Papanikolaou (1883-1962)
    3. Theodoros Kolokotronis (1770-1843)
    4. Constantine Karamanlis (1907-1998)
    5. Socrates (470BC?-399)
    6. Aristotle (384?-322?)
    7. Eleftherios Venizelos (1864-1936)
    8. Ioannis Kapodistrias (1776-1831)
    9. Plato (424?-448)
    10. Pericles (495?-429)
    11. Mikis Theodorakis(1925-), composer and resistance fighter (Zorba’s Dance).
    12. Constantin Carathéodory (1873-1950), mathematician.
    13. Melina Mercouri (1920-1994), actress and activist.
    14. Andreas Papandreou (1919-1996), Prime Minister.
    15. Nikos Kazantzakis (1883-1957), novelist (Zorba the Greek, The Last Temptation of Christ).
    16. Odysseas Elytis (1911-1996), poet. Nobel Prize in Literature, 1979.
    17. Homer (8th century BC), poet (Iliad, Odyssey).
    18. Manos Hadjidakis (1925-1994), composer.
    19. Leonidas I of Sparta (540BC-480BC), general.
    20. Hippocrates (460BC-370BC), physician.
    21. Pythagoras (570BC-495BC), mathematician.
    22. Constantine P. Cavafy (1863-1933), poet.
    23. Maria Callas (1923-1977), opera soprano singer.
    24. Archimedes of Syracuse (287BC?-212BC), mathematician, astronomer, engineer and inventor.
    25. Aristotle Onassis (1906-1975), businessman

  33. @Neoconned

    Tesla sell actual products too, and their sales rise most years, but I agree they are overvalued

    If you want to see a real scam take a look into Nikola motor, https://nikolamotor.com the last time I checked they were worth more than Ford. Nikola have yet to deliver one truck to a paying customer, even worse they have yet to show a working prototype, plenty of CGI and big claims. The CEO Trevor Milton is the next Elizabeth Holmes

  34. Diana, the airhead party animal, ahead of Shakespeare and so many others more worthy. There you go.

    • Agree: LondonBob
  35. Alfa158 says:
    @Neoconned

    Teslas are regional and pretty expensive so their density will depend on where you live. Additionally, they don’t use a dealer network but are sold directly, and Tesla focuses on areas where they are developing their charging network so you can drive them on long trips like IC cars. Where I live I will see two hands worth of Teslas just by taking a stroll to the supermarket to buy a quart of milk. Tesla has replaced German luxury brands as the sedan or SUV of choice. Audi-Mercedes-BMW are working hard to develop their own Tesla equivalents to protect their market share.

    I didn’t know that about Musk’s personal life. So, there is at least one rich guy who knows how to enjoy his money and position in life. I see how people like Bezos, Zuckerberg, Gates live and wonder what the hell they are thinking. Now I’m really jealous.

    Biden doesn’t have a 21 point lead, gamblers are giving him a 21% higher probability of winning. Not the same thing. The day of the Nixon McGovern election Nixon would have had a 99% probability of winning, but he didn’t win by 99 points, he won by 23 points. Biden is running around 9 points ahead on percent of voters who prefer him. BLM and Anti-Fa appear to be working frantically to help Trump close the gap, by I think Don is too incompetent to pull another upset even with their help.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  36. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    I wouldn’t buy their stock, but it’s a pretty amazing story that they’ve gotten this far.

    Particularly if they are still losing money on every car sold.

    ($3,000-$4,000 per car as of a year ago when I last looked. Perhaps this has changed?)

    • Replies: @captflee
    , @anon
  37. PSR says:

    “Czechoslovakia?” There hasn’t been a Czechoslovakia for many years now. I’ve even seen the Czech Republic referred to as Czechia. What’s up with that?

  38. Thea says:

    Prince Harry has some sort of brain damage to no longer identify with the beautiful heritage bequeathed to him

  39. Alfa158 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    GM originated the concept almost 20 years ago and then focused on cranking out Malibus and Tahoes instead.
    https://www.adrianchernoff.com/project/electric-skateboard-platform/
    Musk saw the skateboard, realized you could drop in a more practical battery system and actually started making the cars. As you can see however GM is now, for real, no we really meant it, this time we’re serious man, we’re really going to do it, we have dozens of “brand managers” on the job, going to manufacture their own innovation twenty years late.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  40. Interesting how the Brits basically favor anyone who propped up the creaking edifice that is (was) the Empire. No mention of Gandhi, who was indeed British (using British rules of nationality) or Roger Casement. Or even George Washington, also British (again using their rules). If you support Empire, you’re in.

    • Replies: @al gore rhythms
  41. @Steve Sailer

    One sees a surprising number of Teslas in Austria.

  42. Grumpy says:
    @Steve Sailer

    It seems like every third or fourth car on the road in Norway is a Tesla.

  43. tyrone says:
    @Mike Tre

    What, you got something against dirt squirrels?

  44. Owain Glyndŵr (Welsh rebel Hotspur in Henry IV, Part 1)

    As recently as 2002 you can see that Brits interested in British history didn’t care at all about Diversity.

    Not only didn’t they care about diversity, they evidently didn’t care much about Shakespeare or English/Welsh history.

    Owain Glyndwr was a Welsh patriot – another Celt patriot like William Wallace and Desmond NiDesmond – waging war against the English colonization of Wales. Hotspur (Henry Percy) was an English nobleman rebelling against his king, Henry IV, who conspired with Glyndwr in an attempt to further Percy plans to overthrow Henry and become a latterday Warwick the Kingmaker (Richard Neville).

    • Replies: @Lurker
  45. Mr. Anon says:

    OT: A Frederick Douglas statue was torn down in Rochester

  46. Richard S says:

    Online surveys of the Greatest This or That have a tendency to be hijacked by interest groups

    Lol this is true. There was a wee bit of an Irish conspiracy to put labour leader and revolutionary hero James Connolly on the list of “greatest Britons”. Connolly, born in Scotland, was executed by a British firing squad after the failed Easter Rising in 1916.

    The least white person in the top 100 is, I’m guessing, Freddie Mercury, a Parsi whom few in the 1970s noticed wasn’t European.

    Didn’t you know that “modern research” shows that black people have always been such an integral part of British history that people didn’t even notice if, say, Shakespeare or the Tudors were black? That’s the contention of Dr Miranda Kaufmann (>Black Tudors) and the BBC’s high school lesson plans: https://www.bbc.co.uk/teach/class-clips-video/history-ks3–gcse-the-story-of-black-migrants-in-england-in-tudor-times/zf8nqp3

  47. @Rob McX

    Crawford was one of the biggest names in British showbiz in the 1970s and 80s. He’s a household name for anyone over the age of 40.

  48. Jack D says:
    @Neoconned

    Before Covid hit, Tesla was selling around 20,000 cars/month, which is roughly in the ballpark of Lexus, Mercedes, BMW and Audi and more that double the sales of Cadillac. So for a luxury brand they were doing quite well. Valuing the company higher than Toyota still doesn’t make any sense but just because you haven’t personally seen many Teslas doesn’t mean that they aren’t selling a significant # of cars.

    What is surprising to me is how conventional the styling of Tesla is. I guess people don’t want anything weird looking and crash protection is a consideration but since there is no engine in the front (or back) of a Tesla, there is no reason why it has to have a hood like a conventional car. The chassis of electric cars is called a “skateboard” and you can put almost any shape you want on top of a skateboard.

  49. Jack D says:
    @Alfa158

    The NY Times said that Hillary had an 85% chance of winning (vs. 15% for Trump) right up until Election Day 2016 (a 70% gap so 21% is nothing).

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/presidential-polls-forecast.html

    Not saying that they will be wrong again but you can’t put too much stock in polls.

    And November is an eternity away in political terms. Especially this year. Remember back to that long ago time when everyone was only obsessed with Covid and not with the mattering of Black Lives? That time was one month ago.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  50. Svigor says:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_Greatest_Britons

    Winston Churchill
    (1874–1965)

    Sir Winston S Churchill.jpg Prime Minister (1940–1945, 1951–1955). Historically ranked as one of the greatest British prime ministers. Led the nation during World War II, when the country had to defend itself against Hitler’s attempts to invade.

    Hitler’s attempts to invade.

    Poland? Kind of a deceptive way to write that, no?

    Britain? Fake news. Citation needed.

    Britain literally has fake news in their greatest Briton bio now?

  51. Anon[204] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Michael Powell is a white middle-vaged NewYork Times sports columnist whose beat was disappeared by the pandemic. His editors have been assigning him to do other miscellaneous stuff, and they don’t seem to have noticed that he isn’t woke.

    Here’s his latest:

    Are Protests Unsafe? What Experts Say May Depend on Who’s Protesting What

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/us/Epidemiologists-coronavirus-protests-quarantine.html

    I figure he’s got another two months or so before he’s put on the obituary beat, so enjoy him while you can.

  52. Svigor says:
    @Jack D

    Why are we pulling the lever for him, again? Something he can still do for the Zionists in his second term?

    • LOL: IHTG
    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Lot
    , @Johann Ricke
    , @Svigor
  53. Fox says:
    @PiltdownMan

    My eye caught the word ‘Czechoslovakia’ immediately as well. This comes along with many people’s belief that there is a language spoken with the name “Czechoslovakian” which is a peak indicator of historical discussions which are not founded in reality but are used to explain and justify past catastrophic policies.

  54. >scientists/technologists and pop singing stars relative to poets, guitarists, and actors

    It’s not that surprising, really, that pop stars would be high on the list; people tend to have stronger feelings and emotional connections to songs (and, I guess, the people who sing them) than to the music itself. Or maybe it’s a matter of lead singers being more recognizable than the musicians who support them.

    The weird thing is the scientists, though. This has been a trend for a while now, and I’m starting to wonder when it began—scientists are often treated and viewed as “rock stars.” Was it with Albert Einstein? I can’t really speak historically, but it seems relatively recent that scientists have been so heavily lionized and popularized this much.

  55. @Jack D

    yeah pretty much every Tesla sold is a hit to the German auto industry, the strange thing is so far only Porsche have released a really good EV, a company called Lucid have a luxury EV out soon, it seems to have as good a drive train as Tesla with an interior to match the best Merc/BMW, more pain for the Germans

    Tesla need to be as aerodynamic as possible, its a big help with range, they also want a normal looking car so as not to scare the average car buyer, well that was the idea until the Cybertruck came along

    Aptera motors have an interesting car that pushes aerodynamics to the extreme, they plan to get 1000miles of range from a 100kWh battery pack

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Jack D
  56. Speaking of uncancellable national heroes, Bob Iger has signed Colin Kaepernick to a sweet media development deal. Kap sure gets a lot of multi-million dollar deals for an oppressed martyr.

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29417850/colin-kaepernick-disney-announce-partnership-deal

    • Replies: @Gianni in Guernsey
  57. El Dato says:
    @Alfa158

    But the key factor are the batteries, which were lousy 20 years ago.

    It’s become somewhat better since, as you can now actually run a car with them but nothing beats actual chemicals in a tank that you can burn.

    The road-watching self-driving system is rather important too and didn’t exist 20 years ago either, except on experimental trucks with old-school symbolic processing (which may be back at some time, who knows).

    The DARPA Grand Challenge of 2005 was really a turning point and showed what is possible.

    It’s been fun: https://spectrum.ieee.org/cars-that-think/transportation/self-driving/cmu-solves-12-year-old-darpa-grand-challenge-mystery

    The Teslastic claims that Tesla developed its own “AI chip” with it being better and less energy-hungry than devices from NVidia were ridiculous though. At best they can design a chip that is better adapted to Tesla cars.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @scrivener3
  58. captflee says:
    @Neoconned

    Lotsa Teslas in the Research Triangle, not so much on the coast, except for maybe Figure Eight Island and the Bald Head Ferry Parking Lot, and them ain’t locals. I am probably more attuned to seeing interesting autos than the average driver, as I am always on the lookout for anything that doesn’t look like the bastard offspring of Ralph Nader and Joan Claybrook. Too bad my erstwhile employers’ legendary BMW bidness up there fell apart so early over romantic shenanigans, as they are rather thicker on the ground now than in those halcyon days of the early seventies, before that roundel on the bonnet unfairly labeled one as a feminine hygiene device.

    My admiration for Musk is largely based on my appreciation of that magnum opus by Prof. Owens, “The Ballad of the Flim Flam Man”. Mordecai Jones was assuredly a piker by comparison. Hell, Bernie Madoff may well be. Be that as it may, or may not, he’s puttin’ on a Hell of a show.

    • Replies: @(((They))) live
  59. @Neoconned

    Teslas are very common in the SF Bay Area.

  60. captflee says:
    @Anonymous

    Sure, they’re losing money on every sale, but I am assured they’ll make it all up on volume.

  61. El Dato says:
    @El Dato

    For those interested, a directly link:

    Beats [email protected]

    Also, Jessica Lynch gets a namecheck. What happend to the gal btw?

  62. Greatest fictional Britons? Harry Flashman and James Bond.

  63. anonymous[751] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve in Greensboro

    Women can’t drive for shit.

    A Tesla is absolutely the safest vehicle to put your kids in to be driven by their mother.

    I think this is a hugely underrated aspect of its appeal. Musk got the performance and luxury/status cool factor to attract men but making it the best choice for suburban moms is the real killer app imo.

  64. syonredux says:
    @theMann

    Back in 2005, The Discovery Channel did a poll on who is the Greatest American.The top 25 is a mixed bag. There are some good picks (Edison, Wright Bros, Washington), but also a lot of silly ones.Bill Clinton makes the top 25, but not Theodore Roosevelt?Oprah, but not Orson Welles? The absence of great American writers (Twain, Poe, Whitman, Dickinson, Faulkner, Frost) is quite sad. And Einstein should not be on the list. People who immigrate that late in life are Americans only in a legal sense.

    Ronald Reagan, (1911–2004) actor and 40th President
    Abraham Lincoln, (1809–1865) 16th President
    Martin Luther King Jr., (1929–1968) minister and civil rights leader
    George Washington, (1732–1799) general and 1st President
    Benjamin Franklin, (1705–1790) author, printer, scientist and politician
    George W. Bush, (1946–) 43rd President
    Bill Clinton, (1946–) 42nd President
    Elvis Presley, (1935–1977) musician and actor
    Oprah Winfrey, (1954–) talk show host and actress
    Franklin D. Roosevelt, (1882–1945) 32nd President
    Billy Graham, (1918–2018) minister
    Thomas Jefferson, (1743–1826) writer and 3rd President
    Walt Disney, (1901–1966) animator and film producer
    Albert Einstein, (1879–1955) physicist
    Thomas Alva Edison, (1874–1931) inventor
    John F. Kennedy, (1917–1963) 35th President
    Bob Hope, (1903–2003) actor and comedian
    Bill Gates, (1955–) businessman
    Eleanor Roosevelt, (1884–1962) First Lady, activist and diplomat
    Lance Armstrong, (1971–) cyclist
    Muhammad Ali, (1942–2016) boxer
    Rosa Parks, (1913–2005) civil rights activist
    The Wright Brothers, inventors and aviation pioneers
    Henry Ford, (1863–1947) industrialist and businessman
    Neil Armstrong, (1930–2012) astronaut

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_American

  65. Escher says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    I heard that was because EVs were exempt from the massive car ownership tax that the city levies.
    Once that exemption was withdrawn sales are reported to have plummeted by > 80%.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  66. Sue D. Nim says: • Website

    Jeremy Clarkson, of Top Gear fame, made a programme (not currently available) for the BBC extolling the virtues of Brunel.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0074sf7

    Later, he was awarded an honorary degree by Brunel University.

  67. anon[309] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Particularly if they are still losing money on every car sold.

    But I’m sure they make it up on volume.

  68. syonredux says:

    Ennio Morricone, Prolific Italian Composer for the Movies, Dies at 91

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ennio-morricone-dead-prolific-italian-composer-was-91-858358

    Sad news; he created some truly great film scores:

    • Replies: @Jack D
  69. National heroes have been doing poorly of late especially it seem Christopher Columbus. Let me lend some obscurity to the discussion.

    Of course Columbus didn’t discover America. My Swedish friend Donald of course said it was some Viking. There is archaeological evidence for some Viking settlement in what is now Canada. The Italians of course argue that those Scandinavians never got as far south as the area of the United States. But of course Columbus never got here either. He was too far south. There are three problems with these claims:One – I live in California. Neither Italians or Scandinavians got here – not even close. Two – Columbus was a Spanish employee. Surely Spain should get some credit (remember this point). Three – I’m Irish not Scandinavian, Italian, or Spanish.

    Fortunately the Irish discovered America and there are no statues to tear down. Keep reading.

    Columbus researched his proposed voyages. He questioned Atlantic fishermen and he sent his brother to Ireland to search the the libraries for historical accounts of the lands to the far west. Remember when the Vikings got to Iceland they found Irish monks. Those monks spoke of lands (Greenland, North America) further west. The libraries in Ireland had accounts of Saint Brendan – also known as Brendan the Navigator – who it was said had sailed in a coracle to America. Columbus wanted to know all about it. Brendan of course was Irish.

    I think the original chronicles of Brendan were written in Ogam. There were other ancient accounts of visits to the lands of the west written in Runic by the Vikings. No modern person believed either account until 1060 when a site was found at L’Anse aux Meadows in Newfoundland. So when I was in high school Columbus was thought to be the first European to sail to North America. But when I was in college it was some Norse guy. The runes were correct. I’ve been waiting for some archaeologist to dig up the remains of the earlier Irish colony. They just haven’t been found yet. You out there – get digging.

    The other thing to remember is that North America is big. All this is East Coast history. California was discovered too – by Russian fur traders who followed the seals from Siberia. They got as far south on the Californian coast as their colony at Fort Ross. I’ve been there. It’s a well known tourist attraction. So should we say that the Russians discovered America – at least the best part of America?

    No. Remembering that Columbus was not Spanish but a foreign (Italian) sea captain. Who sailed those Russian ships? As it happens it was Captain Kelly – Irishman.

    The Irish discovered America.

  70. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Martyrs are not like those of the days of yore theses days.

  71. @captflee

    I can understand that people don’t like Tesla or even hate EVs in general, so because of that Musk just has to be a scam artist, but does he not deserve some credit for SpaceX

  72. Jack D says:
    @(((They))) Live

    Aptera is not really a car, more like a 3 wheel motorcycle. Maybe you could sell a thing like that in India or Vietnam to a family that is moving up from a scooter but the US is past the stage of development where the public will accept a 3 wheeler – you can sell a handful as novelties but not a large #. UNLESS we are headed BACK to that stage.

    • Agree: Kyle
  73. Jack D says:
    @syonredux

    It’s hard to call the death of a 91 year old man sad. This is just the natural order of things.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  74. syonredux says:

    Matty Yglesias posed a similar question on the Fourth:

    What countries have the least problematic founders? Czech Republic seems solid. Norway?

    Some of the answers were strange:

    Haiti?

    Haiti

    George Washington wishes he was Toussant L’Ouveture

    I”m not sure if these guys are ignorant or are simply being ironic…..Or maybe they are simply using the who-whom lens (i.e., BIPOC massacring Europeans is OK)…..

    The French massacre of 1804 was carried out against the remaining French population and French Creoles (or Franco-Haitians) in Haiti by Haitian soldiers under orders from Jean-Jacques Dessalines. He had decreed that all suspected of conspiring in the acts of the expelled army should be put to death.[1]

    The massacre, which took place throughout Haiti, occurred from early January 1804 until 22 April 1804, and resulted in the death of 3,000 to 5,000 people.[2] Squads of soldiers moved from house to house, torturing and killing entire families.[3] A second wave of massacres targeted white women and children.[4]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haiti_massacre

    Jean-Jacques Dessalines (Haitian Creole: Jan-Jak Desalin; French pronunciation: ​[ʒɑ̃ ʒak dɛsalin]; 20 September 1758 – 17 October 1806) was a leader of the Haitian Revolution and the first ruler of an independent Haiti under the 1805 constitution. Under Dessalines, Haiti became the first country in the Americas to permanently abolish slavery. Initially regarded as governor-general, Dessalines was later named Emperor of Haiti as Jacques I (1804–1806) by the generals of the Haitian Revolution Army.[1] He is regarded as one of the founding fathers of Haiti.[2]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Jacques_Dessalines

    • Replies: @Morton's toes
  75. @Jack D

    I think there is a market for it, there are people who like the idea of a car so efficient it can be powered by solar PV, plus with the Aptera every public charger is a super charger

  76. Anon[241] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Attention seeker Ellen Pao may have gotten herself into a lot of trouble. She claims she knew Ghislaine Maxwell was sex trafficking underage girls 9 years ago, yet Pao did nothing and didn’t report it to the police.

  77. El Dato says:
    @The Alarmist

    I dunno about feeing Puerto Rico. You probably can’t extract that much money, and anyway there is the Federal Reserve.

    At this point, Black Matters Outrage is just about generating the most outlandish claim on Twitter and performing the most outlandish vandalism in Real Life and see whether it gains traction. Unless a white car intervenes.

    Maybe some brothers will start shooting soon.

    Anyway, VIVA MIRANDA

    https://youtu.be/yYp1AkNmSpo&t=4605

  78. @Bragadocious

    No-one thinks that Gandhi was British apart from you. And you didn’t get to vote. Never mind.

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
  79. Lurker says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    I think William Wallace was a Norman nobleman rather than a Celt.

    • Replies: @Cortes
  80. @Henry's Cat

    MC’s singing voice is nowhere near as impressive as his popularity would indicate. Even amongst male, musical theatre vocalists.

    For instance, he gets blown away by non-Brit, true Irish-tenor Colm Wilkinson (originated the role of Jean Valjean in Les Misérables).

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
  81. @Steve Sailer

    We see a lot of them here too. Some of them are very nice-looking. We even have recharging stations in public spaces for them. Then again, we also see a lot of Porsche and Maserati SUVs. That tells you all you need to know about the real domain of Tesla automobiles.

  82. El Dato says:

    In the unforgiving world of woke, there’s no room for personal development. One misstep decades ago and you’re tarred for life

    Boeing communications chief resigns over sexist article he wrote THREE DECADES ago opposing women’s service in the military

    Boeing’s Comm Boss is put out to pasture because he doubted the sanity of having women messing around in glorious mindfields and empowering jungles and deserts, not to mention showing these gender-neutral cancer-inducing chemicals that they don’t need no man? By people who would never ever be seen NEAR armed forces of any kind? ***** ***** *****

    An excerpt from the article suggested that female soldiers could make a squadron appear ‘weak,’ possibly prompting defeat on the battlefield.

    Golightly told staff in an email seen by Reuters that the exclusion of women at the time was ‘government policy and broadly supported in society. It was also wrong.

    Boeing has touted its strong commitment to improving diversity, though the number of women on its executive council has fallen from five to two since the beginning of 2019, according to Boeing’s annual reports and website.

    No it is completely right. What’s wrong is dead women storage.

  83. J.Ross says:
    @The Alarmist

    Hilariously, he’s right. This play was massively successful because it repackaged historical propaganda to the desires of extremely wealthy whites, using race tricks which should offend blacks.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  84. glib says:
    @Ian Smith

    I searched for the string before commenting: what happened to Jan Hus? So I agree.

  85. Most Notorious American: Haven Monahan

  86. syonredux says:
    @Jack D

    It’s hard to call the death of a 91 year old man sad. This is just the natural order of things.

    Sadness is part of the natural order.

  87. J.Ross says:

    Black Lives Matter shot an eight year old black girl to death after failing to attack and destroy the family car she was riding in. Even the mayor of Atlanta has now had enough of them and is telling them to clear out.
    https://apnews.com/9148d740c10fcd784867eda74055aaa5

  88. @Agathoklis

    The last time I read a history book they said Homer was a committee.

  89. Jack D says:
    @(((They))) Live

    If you want an idea of what car shapes are possible on a skateboard chassis, see this:

    Also see this to understand why what is possible is not the same thing as what is desirable. You can’t really tell whether that thing is coming or going.

    • Replies: @(((They))) Live
  90. vinteuil says:
    @Svigor

    Just when I was wondering…what ever happened to Svigor? – up he pops.

    And with a good point!

  91. Qvax says:
    @The Alarmist

    Lol. I thought SJWs would love Hamilton. Portraying Hamilton as Puerto Rican, and all the other Fiunding Fathers as negroes.

    What don’t they like about it? That King George is portrayed as a white man?

  92. @Steve Sailer

    I’ve seen a lot of Teslas in L.A. since about 2013.

    It’s the only American car brand that has cachet in Europe.

    Buicks are quite popular in China.

    Hands Off! These 6 Buicks Are Only For China

  93. @Svigor

    Hitler’s attempts to invade.

    Poland? Kind of a deceptive way to write that, no?

    Britain? Fake news. Citation needed.

    Excellent point. Very well pointed out. Thank you!

  94. @syonredux

    If you omit that minor detail he was a great man. See if you are going to be a judge of your fellows always keep in mind you live in a metaphorical glass house and judge them for their best qualities or at least not for the worst.

    It’s spelled Toussaint Louverture.

    (I only know that because I looked it up like I always have to.)

  95. Czechoslovakia has solved the problem of having a national hero with mortal flaws.

    Cimrman, also known as the Master, was invented in a 1966…

    How is this any different from the religions most people seem to hold dear and fight over? Those religions that form the basis of so many of their cultural divisions?

    Those religions are held up as false foundations of nations, for example the United States, which was founded not by Christians, but by Deists — Deists, who hold no make-believe heroes and no fake literature as the basis of their rational knowledge that a higher power and consciousness exists.

    It would seem that the Czechs are onto something. Theirs is the best way proven to promote a hero as the focus of mass adulation. It is better — and probably only works — if the hero is a fantastic creation.

    • Replies: @Curle
  96. dr kill says:

    Musk is the P.T. Barnum of the 21st century.

    Today’s winner.

  97. Anonymous[437] • Disclaimer says:
    @Neoconned

    Teslas are very common in wealthy urban areas. You see a ton of them in LA, the Bay Area, the DC area, NYC area, etc.

    Teslas aren’t like Coke or Toyota. They’re not practical items for the masses. They’re luxury performance cars.

    Their primarily appeal is that they’re expensive. Their speed is not unique to Tesla but just due to electric engines having tons of torque by nature. Styling is conventional. Interior is terrible and most people hate the giant touchscreen console. Body dents easily because it’s made of aluminum and ends up looking cheap.

    If they were priced affordably they’d lose cachet immediately.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @anonymous
  98. Jára Cimrman (born Zimmerman, but he changed the spelling of his name as an act of Czech nationalism)

    He could have changed it to Tesař, as some colonial Zimmermanns became Carpenters.

    John Lennon…

    What is a republican émigré doing on this list?

    Sir Paul McCartney…

    Where is Sir Richard Starkey MBE ? He enters his ninth decade tomorrow.

    • Replies: @I, Libertine
  99. @Jack D

    I agree, the skateboard chassis is loved by car designers because of how flexible it is for new ideas, I think its the future myself

    I liked this one from Mercedes

    A few years ago the MB CEO said he wanted MB to be the leaders in luxury EVs by 2025, they better get a move on, so far they have yet to build an EV better than the 2012 Model S

  100. Cortes says:
    @Lurker

    More likely to have been Brythonic Celt (Welsh), given the surname. There’s a chapter in

    http://www.normandavies.com/books/vanished-kingdoms/?lang=en

    dealing with Strathclyde which touches on that name, as well as the Campbells (“twisted mouth” supposedly due to being Welsh speakers as waves of Irish arrived).

  101. @El Dato

    The car is short on range, air conditioning and heat make it worse. Filling em up takes a long time.

    Last weekend I was at a hotel in a very blue state. There were two parking spaces with charging stations right at the door, great. I only once saw a car charging. Great. but what happens when there are more electric cars? If there were 4 guests with electric cars, the first two to arrive would take the spaces and plug in. I doubt people would return to the lot to unplug their car because it was sufficiently charged.

    Anyone with a lithium ion powered phone knows you need your own dedicated charger available when you have to top it up. Try to get a family to share one power brick for a vacation. No plugging in and going to sleep, there are others that need the charger.

  102. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Poland? Kind of a deceptive way to write that, no?

    It is true that Operation Sea Lion was only partially implemented and a seaborne invasion of Britain never actually took place.

    However, if you were living through The Blitz in 1940, you had no way of knowing that the Germans were “only” going to bomb Britain and leave it at that.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blitz

    Judging by what I was told by survivors, it felt like the end of the world. Between the bombing and the U-boat menace, the Germans made their presence felt, even if the English never actually heard the tramp of German boots in the streets.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Svigor
    , @Svigor
  103. @Steve in Greensboro

    No you’re wrong. The virtue signalling car was the Prius. I want a Tesla because they are damn fast. I drove a turbo charged dual overhead cam, fuel injectioned red convertible for thirty years. Loved that car. But all that internal combustion technology now seems so twentieth century.

  104. @Agathoklis

    Funny, Alexander and his dad were uppity Macedonian trash until the Romans showed up.

  105. @scrivener3

    I’m almost certainly older than you but your inner child is dead and rotting. I don’t give a hoot about gas mileage. The Tesla has low end torque. You have failed to see the future coming at us fast. Fuddy-duddyism praecox.

  106. @Jack D

    I take you don’t see a lot of folks on Harley trikes were you live? They’re more and more common in Eastern Ohio.

  107. @scrivener3

    Do you go on vacation to places with no electricity ? where, Africa ?

    As the number of EVs sold increase the number of chargers will also increase

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    , @Anonymous
  108. @Anonymous

    There are a lot of rich guys who want to treat themselves with a cool car.

  109. anonymous[751] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    This isn’t true on the west coast. I live in a third tier city and Teslas are hugely popular in normal suburbs with home prices < 500k.

    When I lived in the deep south a couple of years ago I saw Teslas about as often as Ferraris–ie, once or twice at a casino with out of state plates.

    But it's just not true they're only being driven by millionaires in LA and SF.

    The model 3 starts below 40k. It is better than other cars at that price point. I saw plenty of blue collar guys in the deep south driving vehicles (trucks) that cost more than the model 3 and model Y. Price is not the issue you think it is.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  110. vinteuil says:

    The Czechs have Jára Cimrman, the Hungarians have Háry János.

  111. Lot says:
    @Anonymous

    The Nazis took over the Channel Islands, though they are crown dependencies left over from the Duchy of Normandy that are not technically part of the UK.

  112. @Cortes

    The real Czech hero would probably be the shy, retiring editor of the magazine “Animal World.” Oh, and he wrote some other fiction.

    Thank you.

  113. Jack D says:
    @Svigor

    While Joe Biden will be a Friend to the Palestinian People? I think your choice in November will be between a pro-Zionist and a pro-Zionist so you’ll have to decide based on other factors.

  114. Lot says:
    @Svigor

    Trump’s strong record on Israel is just one of many reasons to vote for him.

    Many others here:

    https://www.promiseskept.com

  115. Not Raul says:
    @IHTG

    Do you know who else was an independent troll who ran for office as a Republican?

    Don’t think that they never win.

  116. Curle says:
    @Richard of Melbourne

    And yet they voted for Brexit.

    This routine from a sketch comedian who plays the part of frustrated liberal newscaster does a better job of characterizing our enemies’ weaknesses than any comparable US comedian.

  117. @Jack D

    Aptera is not really a car, more like a 3 wheel motorcycle. Maybe you could sell a thing like that in India or Vietnam to a family that is moving up from a scooter but the US is past the stage of development where the public will accept a 3 wheeler – you can sell a handful as novelties but not a large #.

    At $30K+ per vehicle, I expect them to sell hundreds, maybe thousands. Not per year. In total.

  118. @anonymous

    I would imagine that a lot of Tesla buyers are married men with wives with SUVs, so when they need to do a long distance trip that would be a strain in an electric car, they just take the 300 hp SUV.

  119. @Svigor

    Why are we pulling the lever for him, again? Something he can still do for the Zionists in his second term?

    Because the alternative is a Democratic president who mobilizes troops to help burn your house down. With you in it. The corollary of Black Lives Matter is Whitey Must Die. Now.

    You think what we have today is anarcho-tyranny? You ain’t seen nuthin’ yet. You remind me of the kulaks, 100 years ago, who tried to stay neutral as the Reds and the Whites duked it out for the future of Russia. As the stone killer Trotsky once said, you may not be interested in the dialectic, but the dialectic is interested in you.

    • Thanks: Neoconned
    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    , @Neoconned
  120. Curle says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    “the United States, which was founded not by Christians, but by Deists”

    Ok, I’ll play. Jefferson is one. Who was the other one?

    How many of the signers of the Declaration were Deists? How many of the state legislators ratifying the constitution were Deists? 1/100th? 1/1000th?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  121. @Curle

    Congratulations, you win, but there is a difference between going to church and what one actually believes.

    I’ll admit mine was a dumb comment, though. I make a lot of those.

  122. Wilkey says:
    @Altai

    OT: Fire Island 4th of July 2020 was inexplicably not cancelled.

    This is rather reminiscent of one of the opening scenes of “The Normal Heart,” where the Larry Kramer character (played by Mark Ruffalo) visits Fire Ireland and comes across one anonymous orgy after another, even as it’s obvious something deadly is spreading in the gay community.

  123. Wilkey says:
    @(((They))) Live

    As the number of EVs sold increase the number of chargers will also increase.

    It’s not just the accessibility of charging stations – it’s the time it takes to charge them.

    I’m all in favor of electric cars, but for many or most people they are only practical in 2 car (or more) families without many young kids.

  124. @al gore rhythms

    He’s just as British as those sheep shaggers Thatcher sent warships to defend. Or could it be his skin color disqualifies him?

  125. Svigor says:
    @Svigor

    • Replies: @Jack D, @Lot, @Johann Ricke

    Aaaand the ziocontingent loves Blormpf.

    I’m shocked over here. Shocked

    https://www.promiseskept.com

    Lol. Is anyone but boomers falling for this shit anymore?

  126. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    At the time one would have to be even more totally ignorant of reality to think Germany would invade Britain. Today the total supremacy of the British Navy at the time is a detail of history – but at the time, it was common knowledge.

    The supposed German invasion of Britain during WWII is another of those strictly-boomer beliefs.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  127. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    And don’t even get me started on the Blitz. Statistically-insignificant, but the Brits are always going on about it. Sort of like how many the US lost in the European theater in total…

    Kursk and Stalingrad both crap bigger than the Blitz, never mind Normandy. Dresden is over here like “WTF?”

    This was probably, at least partly, Tolkien’s point with his “Scouring of the Shire.” A Big Deal to the Hobbits, but…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  128. @Johann Ricke

    Because the alternative is a Democratic president who mobilizes troops to help burn your house down. With you in it.

    Ha! You realise that Trump is President right now and completely ineffective? The far left sees Trump as open season to do whatever they want. If the GOP refuses to nominate a semi competent leader then Biden and the Establishment are the only alternative. There is a reason why the Bernie/AOC wing hates Biden.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    , @Svigor
  129. @Peter Akuleyev

    Ha! You realise that Trump is President right now and completely ineffective? The far left sees Trump as open season to do whatever they want. If the GOP refuses to nominate a semi competent leader then Biden and the Establishment are the only alternative. There is a reason why the Bernie/AOC wing hates Biden.

    The Reds were very competent. Unfortunately, their main competence was in eliminating their enemies. The last thing we want is to be competently roasted alive in our own homes. That kind of competence we can do without.

  130. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    At the time one would have to be even more totally ignorant of reality to think Germany would invade Britain. Today the total supremacy of the British Navy at the time is a detail of history – but at the time, it was common knowledge.

    Speaking of total supremacy, it is worth remembering that, at the time of the Blitz, the Germans had already chucked Britain out of Europe and came within an ace of destroying the BEF.

    What you say about the RN is true, but consider: when you are fighting alone from an easily isolated island against a brave and skilful opponent that has already soundly thrashed you, well, anything looks possible, Royal Navy or no.

    The supposed German invasion of Britain during WWII is another of those strictly-boomer beliefs.

    It was very much a case of the spirit being willing, but the logistics being weak, certainly.

    At the same time, we are viewing these events in historical terms rather than living through them ourselves. Big difference.

  131. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Jack D

    The Model S looks like it borrowed the styling of the Maserati Quattroporte. The Tesla pickup truck looks like something out of Robocop.

  132. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    And don’t even get me started on the Blitz. Statistically-insignificant, but the Brits are always going on about it.

    It sounds like you have been talking with some older folk from the UK.

    I am sorry to say that anyone under 40 is unlikely to be able to furnish you with the approximate dates of the Second World War, let alone tell you anything worth hearing about the Blitz.

    This was probably, at least partly, Tolkien’s point with his “Scouring of the Shire.” A Big Deal to the Hobbits, but…

    Reading an account of aerial bombing is a good deal different than being bombed, yes.

    I can only hope that historical knowledge of WWII never deteriorates to the point where there are not at least a few people around who appreciate just what a Big Deal it was.

    (Would referring to it as, “The Second Big Deal,” help to anchor it more firmly in the minds of today’s attention-deficient young people, do you think?)

  133. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @(((They))) Live

    As the number of EVs sold increase the number of chargers will also increase

    One thing has never been quite clear to me: where is all the electricity suddenly going to come from to power all of these shiny new electric cars?

    Am I missing something?

    America does not appear to have built a new electrical power plant in decades. Unless America has a great deal of surplus generating capacity currently lying idle (which could well be the case), it would seem there are going to be a lot of chargers with no actual electricity to offer.

    • Replies: @anon
  134. @J.Ross

    It’s just funny, because conservatives had their knickers in a knot (now there’s aloaded phrase) about the play culturally appropriating from White America, when all along this too was built on the backs of slaves.

  135. @Agathoklis

    Sad; no mention of Polybius, one of the greater ancient historians, from whom we know a good deal of ancient republican Rome.

  136. @Reg Cæsar

    Ringo has been a health nut for decades, so he’s probably got plenty of time to go, barring a bad case of WuFlu. If he survives another month, he’ll be twice as old as John ever got to be.

  137. Gamecock says:

    Boaty McBoatface for #101.

  138. Svigor says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    If Trump was fighting the good fight and losing, I’d support him for reelection.

    That’s not what he’s been doing for the last 3 years.

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
  139. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    America does not appear to have built a new electrical power plant in decades.

    What? It’s easy to check that.

    New U.S. power plants expected to be mostly natural gas combined-cycle and solar PV
    https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=38612

    Natural gas power plants built near shale gas fields
    https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=26312

  140. @Abolish_public_education

    One thing I like about Crawford is that when his fame waned, he bowed out gracefully. Hardly seen him in years. That also happened to another National Treasure – Michael Barrymore, but for less salubrious reasons.

  141. @Svigor

    It’s impossible to know what’s going on in Trump’s head, if anything.

  142. @Escher

    I heard that was because EVs were exempt from the massive car ownership tax that the city levies.

    EVs had a $7500 tax credit that expired last year, but which surely helped their sales. I’ve read that the income of the average Tesla buyer is north of $100k, so Henry Ford he ain’t.

  143. Neoconned says:
    @Johann Ricke

    Nader once had a variation of that Trotsky quote….”if you’re not turned on to politics then politics will turn on you.”

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