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Other than a State of the Union address, there’s not much that physically gathers more of the USA’s ruling class together than an AIPAC conference.

From USA Today:

AIPAC says two people at DC conference attended by Pence and others have tested positive for coronavirus
Jeanine Santucci

WASHINGTON — The American Israel Public Affairs Committee told conference attendees, some of whom include lawmakers, that at least two conference-goers have tested positive for coronavirus.

The pro-Israel lobbying group said in an updated statement to attendees, speakers, administration and Capitol Hill offices on Friday that the two individuals affected traveled from New York to Washington, D.C. to attend the March 1-3 conference. …

Attendees and speakers at the conference included Vice President Mike Pence, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., former 2020 Democratic candidate Mike Bloomberg, former candidate Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., and several other lawmakers on both sides of the political aisle.

The group’s website says that more than about 18,000 people attend its conference from across the country, and that two-thirds of Congress participate.

The reality is that despite all the Information Superhighway blather in 1993 about how you could work from anywhere, the people at the top rely on face to face personal contact to get to and stay on the top.

By the way, here’s a good conceptual graph:

One question might be: would the healthcare system capacity line tend to slope up (as more capacity is brought on line) or down (as more health care workers become incapacitated)?

Is there a test for whether you’ve had this particular virus and are now immune to it?

What are sources of people with some degree of medical training who could quickly step in if we start running out of doctors and nurses? Ex-military medics? Firemen? Dentists? Orthodontists? Dermatologists?

 
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  1. …the people at the top rely on face to face personal contact to get to and stay on the top.

    Yes, but once those people are on top, the ones below them are turned around and bent over.

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Buzz - i recall you once saying you were an asset manager @ a bank or some such.

    What's your long term opinion on REITs & if positive are there any specific type you are hot for? Like REITs that specialize in cemetaries, strip malls, cell towers etc

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  2. And if you don’t think Israeli intelligence was hanging out at the conference, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you.

    • Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers
    @nebulafox

    Gosh, I hope no .gov folks contract the bug! (/sarc phasers set to stun, Mr. Sulu - engage)

    , @Neoconned
    @nebulafox

    Not surprised mossad was there.

    Thatbeing said, is Corona really that big of a deal? Isnt it a variation of the flu? Besides the shits and a fever what exactly is so horrid about it besides the 24/7 media sensationalizing it as their story du jour? Serious question from an uninformed person.....

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Jack D, @YetAnotherAnon, @Murray

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @nebulafox

    For many Unz.commenters, infecting Mossad, AIPAC and two-thirds of Congress is a feature, not a bug.

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @nebulafox

  3. Lot says:

    Your career won’t advance much working from home, but if you want to stay where you are at with a lot less stress from commutes and BS meetings and unhealthy expensive lunches, it is quite practical and millions do it. Basically establish yourself first, make others rely on your knowledge and talents, and you’re gold after that working from home.

    So thanks Darpa!

    What this doesn’t do as expected is let people move to distant cheap areas like say South Padre Island or Bend, Oregon. A little face time is still important, and some things just have to be done on site. So exurbs of a giant city work fine.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @Lot


    Your career won’t advance much working from home
     
    If you're in Congress, it won't advance at all if you skip your AIPAC meetings.
  4. OT – We now have literal doom porn:

    “MILFs In Quarantine” – Coronavirus Porn Sweeps America

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/milfs-quarantine-coronavirus-porn-sweeps-america

    • LOL: Dr. Krieger
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    LOL too, and BTW, I asked if you were a ZHer on another thread before I saw this one - due to "BTFD", haha.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

  5. Wow, who needs Viagra when you can read news like this?
    Blessed be Corona-Chan.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
    @Dr. Krieger

    Corona-Chan was hiding in the bags full of cash for conference goers brought by agents of the PRC.

  6. people at the top rely on face time
    That’s what they did in Iran, where they have totally failed the first stages of containment, and where government officials are among the infected.
    Barring a miraculously specific recovery, the wierd spread of targets who happen to be enemies (America, but also China too; Iran, but also the AIPAC Care Cremation, so effectively Israel too) seems to suggest that this really was a mistake and not a deliberate release. But the certainty is with Harvard traitor Charles Lieber, who is Jewish, and was taking money from China.

  7. A lot of these conferences can easily be done with teleconferencing, but travel these days is a perk a lot of people don’t want to do away with

    • Agree: Brás Cubas
  8. Was Ann Coulter seen skulking around the conference with a spray bottle of, uhh, “perfume?”

    • LOL: Corn
    • Replies: @Dr. Krieger
    @Joe Stalin

    I can see Queen Ann ambling, or possibly sashaying, but she's too statuesque to skulk.

  9. Anonymous[751] • Disclaimer says:

    Not people. Boomers.

    It’s a crime against humanity we don’t have more WFH. And it’s a crime committed by boomers incapable of using or understanding technology.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    @Anonymous

    Wrong. The wfh tech most companies roll out is crap.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    And it’s a crime committed by boomers incapable of using or understanding technology.
     
    https://cdn.britannica.com/s:300x300/47/188747-050-1D34E743/Bill-Gates-2011.jpg

    https://cdn.britannica.com/s:300x300/04/171104-050-AEFE3141/Steve-Jobs-iPhone-2010.jpg

    https://cdn.britannica.com/83/200583-050-6DC32FAE/Steve-Wozniak-Apple-computer-founder-2014.jpg


    https://cdn.britannica.com/s:300x300/94/123894-004-18CD2ECC/Tim-Berners-Lee-2005.jpg
  10. At this point it is clear that we are inside a Curb Your Enthusiasm show.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/jewish-groups-condemn-nazi-flag-display-sanders-rally-69438236
    What do you know, they are socialists after all.

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
    @J.Ross

    Good example of agent provocateur to reinforce the antisemetic trope about Bernie.

  11. OT:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/un-gender-bias-report-offers-a-simple-explanation-for-elizabeth-warren/ar-BB10Ql4C

    Good grief, the journalists and academics and angry UMC ladies just can’t accept their preferences are not necessarily shared by the rest of the nation, even within their own party. It’s absurd to chalk this up to sexism, or to her being shafted, or whatever. I’m sure plenty of the people who refused to back Warren would have been just fine with supporting Tulsi Gabbard. Warren just did not appeal to enough of the electorate. She was also stupid enough to hand over her campaign to 20/30-something progressive activists largely oblivious to what people outside their circle thought. It’s really that simple.

    • Replies: @Dr. Krieger
    @nebulafox

    Between your comment about Warren getting shafted and The Wild Geese Howard's link to Coronavirus Milf Porn, I think I may have some nightmares tonight.

    https://giphy.com/gifs/reactiongifs-SUeUCn53naadO

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @S. Anonyia
    @nebulafox

    Warren lost her momentum when she declared that she would give a 9 year old tranny veto power over her Secretary of Education.

    A lot of hardcore feminists who had liked her abandoned fauxwokahantas at that point.

    Nobody other than Silicon Valley millionaires can stomach trans pandering.

    Replies: @Kronos

  12. I posted this elsewhere, an interesting detail is that it was some Hasidic Jews who were most likely responsible.

    Looks like the US equivalent of the Korean church/cult could be the Hasidic Jewish community of New York. Unspecified delegates from ‘New York’ were or have since been tested positive for the virus were pressing the flesh at AIPAC.

    No news on if the congressional aide who tested positive was infected through a chain begun at AIPAC. Looks like an outbreak at least in New Rochelle. Odds it spread through the NYC community to the outer colonies?

    https://www.jpost.com/International/Potential-coronavirus-spread-at-AIPAC-619804

    https://forward.com/fast-forward/440954/aipac-alerts-participants-that-some-were-in-contact-with-coronavirus/

    WASHINGTON (JTA) — The American Israel Public Affairs Committee alerted the thousands of activists who attended its conference this week that a New York group in attendance had been in contact with someone who has the virus.

    “To our knowledge, no one who attended the conference has tested positive for coronavirus at this time,” said the email sent Wednesday, which AIPAC also posted on Twitter.

    It’s not clear from where in New York the group came from. Two Orthodox Jews from New Rochelle have contracted the virus.

  13. this is like something out of the bible.

    • Replies: @newrouter
    @bigdicknick

    Calls Grow to Quarantine Senator Chris Murphy after Secret Meeting with Coronavirus Carriers from Iranian Regime

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/calls-grow-to-quarantine-senator-chris-murphy-after-secret-meeting-with-coronavirus-carriers-from-iranian-regime/

  14. @nebulafox
    OT:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/un-gender-bias-report-offers-a-simple-explanation-for-elizabeth-warren/ar-BB10Ql4C

    Good grief, the journalists and academics and angry UMC ladies just can't accept their preferences are not necessarily shared by the rest of the nation, even within their own party. It's absurd to chalk this up to sexism, or to her being shafted, or whatever. I'm sure plenty of the people who refused to back Warren would have been just fine with supporting Tulsi Gabbard. Warren just did not appeal to enough of the electorate. She was also stupid enough to hand over her campaign to 20/30-something progressive activists largely oblivious to what people outside their circle thought. It's really that simple.

    Replies: @Dr. Krieger, @S. Anonyia

    Between your comment about Warren getting shafted and The Wild Geese Howard’s link to Coronavirus Milf Porn, I think I may have some nightmares tonight.

    https://giphy.com/gifs/reactiongifs-SUeUCn53naadO

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Dr. Krieger

    Much like 007, I aim to please:

    https://youtu.be/YqdzfyaXJZ4?t=42

    https://i.imgur.com/2FqaOnG.png

    I LOVE YOU CORONA-CHAN!!!

  15. Real life Larry David Show confirmed:
    BUZZ ALDRIN HAS HAD ENOUGH OF THESE [email protected]#&%#@$#ING [email protected] ON A PLANE

  16. Good riddance to traitorous rubbish.

  17. Anonymous[582] • Disclaimer says:

    High concentrations of a parasite with global reach was found in Washington DC. In other news there was an outbreak of COVID-19 at AIPAC.

    • Replies: @Achilles Wannabe
    @Anonymous

    Very good!

  18. @Joe Stalin
    Was Ann Coulter seen skulking around the conference with a spray bottle of, uhh, "perfume?"

    Replies: @Dr. Krieger

    I can see Queen Ann ambling, or possibly sashaying, but she’s too statuesque to skulk.

  19. @bigdicknick
    this is like something out of the bible.

    Replies: @newrouter

    Calls Grow to Quarantine Senator Chris Murphy after Secret Meeting with Coronavirus Carriers from Iranian Regime

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/calls-grow-to-quarantine-senator-chris-murphy-after-secret-meeting-with-coronavirus-carriers-from-iranian-regime/

  20. A pneumonia-causing virus present at a crowded close-contact event containing several elderly Republicans connected to the President? What could possibly go wrong?

    This is looking a lot like the Iranian situation now.

  21. I admit I had to double-check the dates, but CPAC (February 26-29) attendees who didn’t stick around for AIPAC are probably safe.

  22. AIPAC huh? Let’s hope that just this once both the infection and mortality rates approach 100%.

  23. @nebulafox
    And if you don't think Israeli intelligence was hanging out at the conference, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.

    Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers, @Neoconned, @Reg Cæsar

    Gosh, I hope no .gov folks contract the bug! (/sarc phasers set to stun, Mr. Sulu – engage)

  24. The reality is that despite all the Information Superhighway blather in 1993 about how you could work from anywhere, the people at the top rely on face to face personal contact to get to and stay on the top.

    Is there some way we can slip this virus into Davos?

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
    @Reg Cæsar


    Is there some way we can slip this virus into Davos?
     
    No worries, the inner circle will continue to have exposed immunity blood boys and girls giving them regular antibody transfusions while they avoid winter by following summer from southern hemisphere estate to northern hemisphere estate as it progresses. Getting a COVID infection is for the little people.
  25. @Anonymous
    Not people. Boomers.

    It's a crime against humanity we don't have more WFH. And it's a crime committed by boomers incapable of using or understanding technology.

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @Reg Cæsar

    Wrong. The wfh tech most companies roll out is crap.

  26. @Anonymous
    Not people. Boomers.

    It's a crime against humanity we don't have more WFH. And it's a crime committed by boomers incapable of using or understanding technology.

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @Reg Cæsar

    And it’s a crime committed by boomers incapable of using or understanding technology.

    • Thanks: donut
  27. taking out Congress would be a service by the virus.

  28. @Dr. Krieger
    @nebulafox

    Between your comment about Warren getting shafted and The Wild Geese Howard's link to Coronavirus Milf Porn, I think I may have some nightmares tonight.

    https://giphy.com/gifs/reactiongifs-SUeUCn53naadO

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    Much like 007, I aim to please:

    I LOVE YOU CORONA-CHAN!!!

  29. @nebulafox
    And if you don't think Israeli intelligence was hanging out at the conference, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.

    Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers, @Neoconned, @Reg Cæsar

    Not surprised mossad was there.

    Thatbeing said, is Corona really that big of a deal? Isnt it a variation of the flu? Besides the shits and a fever what exactly is so horrid about it besides the 24/7 media sensationalizing it as their story du jour? Serious question from an uninformed person…..

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Neoconned


    Serious question from an uninformed person…..
     
    My personal opinion is that, to this point, the data and information that has come out about Corona is so confused and low-quality that it's difficult to know how horrible this virus is.
    , @Jack D
    @Neoconned

    The death rate seems to be significantly higher than seasonal flu.

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Neoconned

    Swine flu is pretty nasty, so if it's like that or worse, I'd rather not get it.

    , @Murray
    @Neoconned

    It's not the virus itself that's the big deal, unless you're elderly or immunocompromised. Lots of us will catch it, be mildly to severely ill for a few weeks, then recover.

    The problem is that it's highly contagious, severe enough to put 5-20% of infectees in hospital, and not deadly enough to burn itself out quickly by killing people.

    This thread outlines the problem of exponential increase.

    Given the current doubling rate of something less than a week, we end up with millions infected by mid-Spring in the US alone. Even if the death or morbidity rate is lower than the estimates, that still results in hundreds of thousands to millions of people requiring hospitalization, resulting in rampant infection among healthcare workers, and potentially impairing all sorts of essential services. Businesses could close or furlough most of their staff, and critical infrastructure could be crippled due to a shortage of personnel.

    It sounds alarmist, sure, but that's because we modern WEIRDOs have no experience with true pandemics. Eventually most people get better, and the virus peters out due to herd immunity, but in the meantime things could get pretty bad.

  30. Anon[265] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    The black hair article epidemic is spreading to Jewfro women writers:

    Thousands of Women Are Losing Their Hair. Is DevaCurl to Blame?
    https://www.thecut.com/2020/03/is-devacurl-the-reason-womens-hair-is-falling-out.html

    Her Jewish curls are falling out. Dermatologist can’t find a problem, and blames it on maybe “androgenetic alopecia.” Where have we heard “alopecia” before? From recently bald congresswoman, Ayanna Pressley, who seemed to blame it on black hair products, which black women are forced to use because of racist societal expectations of beauty enforced by the hegemonic patriarchy of white men.

    The article in the Cut (i.e., New York Magazine) constructs an elaborate conspiracy theory about a brand of Jewfro-elimination products that started after the ownership of the company changed, but she seems to come to her senses.

    In recent years, largely thanks to the natural-hair movement led by women of color, the beauty industry has started paying attention to women with curly hair. DevaCurl, founded in 1994 by beloved Lorraine Massey. No two heads of hair the same, no two strands the same — but DevaCurl promised to have an answer for all of them, to bring out the “best in every curl,” from spiraling 2c waves like mine to kinky 4c coils. For many women, the road to hair acceptance had been long, hard, and expensive, and the brand loyalty they felt to DevaCurl was akin to religious faith. When I put out a call on the Facebook group asking for people to share their stories, the overwhelming sentiment was betrayal. “I don’t know what brands I can trust, I don’t know what stylists I can trust,” said 21-year-old D’Ambria Hinton, after experiencing bald spots after using DevaCurl for only eight months. “After years of trying to love and care for my naturally curly hair I just want to crawl back into my shell and go back to straightening it.”

    My take: Her dermatologist is right. Social media magnifies conspiracy theories. No hair gunk is going to kill hair roots. In the past this stuff was just kept more private but happened just as much.

  31. What are sources of people with some degree of medical training who could quickly step in if we start running out of doctors and nurses? Ex-military medics? Firemen? Dentists? Orthodontists? Dermatologists?

    Veterinarians are probably more medically competent than firemen, dentists, orthodontists, and dermatologists.

    • Replies: @oldfarmerbrown
    @JimB

    If you call for a medical response team where I live , an EMT team from the Fire Department is what shows up.

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @JimB

    The answer to Steve's question is more complicated than finding "medically-trained" personnel.

    The situation is not an all-hands type situation. Not like a mass accident where you need a lot of people to perform CPR or staunch bleeding. The non-severe cases don't need hospitalization, while the severe cases need ICU and mechanical ventilation, both of which are specializations within health care.

    The reality is that most high-IQ people could be pulled off the street and taught to do what an ICU nurse does with a mechanically vented patient or a patient requiring isolation in about a day. On the other hand, the left hand side of the nursing bell curve probably cannot be taught to be ICU nurses even though they've been working in hospitals their whole lives. The same bell curve question applies to all health care personnel.

    With doctors, a majority of MDs cannot manage a mechanically-vented patient. You need a pulmonologist or intensivist, or maybe an anesthesiologist or surgeon. Regardless of underlying ability, I would put my life in the hands of an ICU-experienced PA/NP in this situation over a GP or oncologist.

    If we go off past outbreaks like 2002-2003 SARS, I think the capacity line should be upward sloping. In those cases, nursing staff did become incapacitated, but not, it seems, at a rate that affected the system.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  32. @nebulafox
    And if you don't think Israeli intelligence was hanging out at the conference, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.

    Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers, @Neoconned, @Reg Cæsar

    For many Unz.commenters, infecting Mossad, AIPAC and two-thirds of Congress is a feature, not a bug.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Reg Cæsar


    "For many Unz.commenters, infecting Mossad, AIPAC and two-thirds of Congress is a feature, not a bug."
     
    Count me as one.
    , @nebulafox
    @Reg Cæsar

    I've got nothing against the Israelis. They play the game well. I would do the exact some thing in their position.

    It's the American useful idiots I cannot stand. In a way, it is worse with the GOP, since a good chunk of them embrace Israel fetishism because they lack the cajones to buck their plutocratic masters and be proper American nationalists in policy, beyond flag waving and treating the military like some bizarre Roman style cult.

  33. @Lot
    Your career won’t advance much working from home, but if you want to stay where you are at with a lot less stress from commutes and BS meetings and unhealthy expensive lunches, it is quite practical and millions do it. Basically establish yourself first, make others rely on your knowledge and talents, and you’re gold after that working from home.

    So thanks Darpa!

    What this doesn’t do as expected is let people move to distant cheap areas like say South Padre Island or Bend, Oregon. A little face time is still important, and some things just have to be done on site. So exurbs of a giant city work fine.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    Your career won’t advance much working from home

    If you’re in Congress, it won’t advance at all if you skip your AIPAC meetings.

  34. Sanders declined to go to AIPAC. Corona-Chan did show up.

    What did Bernie know and when did he know it?

  35. @Buzz Mohawk

    ...the people at the top rely on face to face personal contact to get to and stay on the top.
     
    Yes, but once those people are on top, the ones below them are turned around and bent over.

    Replies: @Neoconned

    Buzz – i recall you once saying you were an asset manager @ a bank or some such.

    What’s your long term opinion on REITs & if positive are there any specific type you are hot for? Like REITs that specialize in cemetaries, strip malls, cell towers etc

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Neoconned

    I like non-traded equity REITS only. One category I like is senior housing. I am not giving investment advice, though, just to be clear.

    Replies: @Neoconned

  36. So is Covid-19 anti-semitic for attending AIPAC or would it be anti-semitic if it didn’t?

  37. @JimB

    What are sources of people with some degree of medical training who could quickly step in if we start running out of doctors and nurses? Ex-military medics? Firemen? Dentists? Orthodontists? Dermatologists?
     
    Veterinarians are probably more medically competent than firemen, dentists, orthodontists, and dermatologists.

    Replies: @oldfarmerbrown, @Chrisnonymous

    If you call for a medical response team where I live , an EMT team from the Fire Department is what shows up.

  38. @The Wild Geese Howard
    OT - We now have literal doom porn:

    "MILFs In Quarantine" - Coronavirus Porn Sweeps America


    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/milfs-quarantine-coronavirus-porn-sweeps-america

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    LOL too, and BTW, I asked if you were a ZHer on another thread before I saw this one – due to “BTFD”, haha.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Achmed E. Newman


    LOL too, and BTW, I asked if you were a ZHer on another thread before I saw this one – due to “BTFD”, haha.
     
    LOL, my man. I lurk on ZH, never comment there.
  39. Probably came from those guys they brought in to serve Kosher Chinese for lunch.

  40. What are sources of people with some degree of medical training who could quickly step in if we start running out of doctors and nurses?

    Well, it depends on how fast “the people at the top” die off. If it’s fast enough, the medical profession and monetary system may become deregulated, so local currencies based on property taxes can be issued to train and deploy first responders. Who knows — local economies provisioning essentials might even return to the Land of the Free.

  41. @Achmed E. Newman
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    LOL too, and BTW, I asked if you were a ZHer on another thread before I saw this one - due to "BTFD", haha.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    LOL too, and BTW, I asked if you were a ZHer on another thread before I saw this one – due to “BTFD”, haha.

    LOL, my man. I lurk on ZH, never comment there.

  42. By the way, here’s a good conceptual graph:

    Below, a real-life graph from China, that looks more like the red part of that graph.

    I daresay what has happened in China is that they have let the disease run wild in one province (Hubei) and it is burning itself out by mutating or infecting everyone who can be infected. That was likely not out of choice, but because they reacted too late, and then opted to isolate Hubei the best they could with extreme measures such as bulldozing (AFAIK) interstate roads out of towns.

    In other provinces, where medical resources have been directed at the problem relatively early, the graph likely looks like the blue part. The daily situation report from the World Health Organization is an informative read. and its province by province summary for China seems to indicate that’s what’s happening.

    https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200306-sitrep-46-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=96b04adf_2

    Today’s report has also this graph, of cases outside China.

  43. @Neoconned
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Buzz - i recall you once saying you were an asset manager @ a bank or some such.

    What's your long term opinion on REITs & if positive are there any specific type you are hot for? Like REITs that specialize in cemetaries, strip malls, cell towers etc

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    I like non-traded equity REITS only. One category I like is senior housing. I am not giving investment advice, though, just to be clear.

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Thank you 4 the reply sir.

    3 more questions and i won't bother you no more....

    1) any health care stocks or other senior citizen exposed stocks, REITs, bonds etc you'd recommend....and no I'm not taking it as investment advice....more as generic market information....

    2) Any COUNTRIES you think will be a good bet to invest in long term and if so...what about them? Bonds? Stocks?

    3) Odd question but any advice on getting in on the trailer park landlord business? Good investment? There's a guy i know near NOLA who rents out small cabins and travel trailers....he gave me the idea....thank you for your time and for responding sir. It is appreciated.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Joe Stalin

  44. Back in the 1990s, Silicon Valley venture capitalists told us:

    “This newfangled Internet annihilates distance, allowing any sort of work to be performed anywhere.”

    and

    “All start-ups hoping to receive funding must be located within an hour’s drive of our offices on Sand Hill Road.”

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Dave3

    I remember reading on another site that one of the real reasons for the concentration of tech in relatively few cities was Venture Capitalists didn't want to be too far from their investments.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  45. Is it possible we could bring all the troops back from the Middle East in 14 days while all the NeoCons are in quarantine?

  46. @Neoconned
    @nebulafox

    Not surprised mossad was there.

    Thatbeing said, is Corona really that big of a deal? Isnt it a variation of the flu? Besides the shits and a fever what exactly is so horrid about it besides the 24/7 media sensationalizing it as their story du jour? Serious question from an uninformed person.....

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Jack D, @YetAnotherAnon, @Murray

    Serious question from an uninformed person…..

    My personal opinion is that, to this point, the data and information that has come out about Corona is so confused and low-quality that it’s difficult to know how horrible this virus is.

  47. “Other than a State of the Union address, there’s not much that physically gathers more of the USA’s ruling class together than an AIPAC conference.”

    LOL. The stooges in Congress know who has the whip hand.

  48. The reality is that despite all the Information Superhighway blather in 1993 about how you could work from anywhere, the people at the top rely on face to face personal contact to get to and stay on the top.

    I was half way across the Atlantic when my Secretary told me the Company had instituted a travel ban, so it was too late to comply, but I laughed and told her I would have gone anyway because I trust my colleagues in the US and London about as far as I can throw them, and that is out a window when I am literally in the room with them.

  49. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Neoconned

    I like non-traded equity REITS only. One category I like is senior housing. I am not giving investment advice, though, just to be clear.

    Replies: @Neoconned

    Thank you 4 the reply sir.

    3 more questions and i won’t bother you no more….

    1) any health care stocks or other senior citizen exposed stocks, REITs, bonds etc you’d recommend….and no I’m not taking it as investment advice….more as generic market information….

    2) Any COUNTRIES you think will be a good bet to invest in long term and if so…what about them? Bonds? Stocks?

    3) Odd question but any advice on getting in on the trailer park landlord business? Good investment? There’s a guy i know near NOLA who rents out small cabins and travel trailers….he gave me the idea….thank you for your time and for responding sir. It is appreciated.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Neoconned

    1) I am not advising you, but I currently avoid stocks, but those involved with hospitals and health care are good bets. The downside is all the complications from politics, government messing around. I would watch out if Democrats take control, then no way (because government involvement will ruin the business.)

    The hospital/health care angle is obvious. Not because of Corona-chan, but because we are aging. The Americans who actually pay for their care are getting older, and *we* will make increasing use of those services. There are billions of dollars in that.

    So, if you want to avoid stocks as I do, there are REITS that own hospitals, hospices, etc. No harm investing in those, but I would focus on non-traded to avoid public market pricing. And, to be a good boy, you can feel good that you are capitalizing the care our people need and will need more in the near future. Win/Win.

    2) This is evil, but the smart money is on China. So, if I wanted to be evil, I would indeed invest in China. Sorry, I will not do that. Eastern Europe has opportunities, some I have used via family connections, but it is a crap shoot. The Wild Wild West. There is a chance they will be the last White people on Earth who actually control their own countries, but they have a problem with corruption.

    But yeah, China and Eastern Europe.

    3) Nothing fundamentally wrong with mobile home communities. I knew people in them. One girl was a stripper who used her cash to buy a trailer and a lot. (We dated.) To paraphrase her, "I know this looks trashy, but I OWN it. Do YOU own your home?" I had to admit I did not then. I was paying rent. She now is a partner in a real estate company in Denver. No Joke. She earned it in those private rooms dancing naked in front of masturbating primates. -- But I digress...

    Know the business. Get tax returns and bank records. What is the income? What are the taxes? (Someone here lied and twisted my words to fake that I advise people not to take taxes into account. What I said was plenty of investors have made money selling with no regard to taxes.)

    I have no involvement with trailer parks, but I would guess that they are actually a promising asset for the future -- because they are affordable housing and more people will need that.

    Plan for the worst and hope for the best. God bless you, and good luck.

    BTW: All the usual CFP 101 stuff about asset allocation, your age-vs.-risk, and yes taxes, is important and you should listen to your local professional if you can.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    , @Joe Stalin
    @Neoconned

    "Any COUNTRIES you think will be a good bet to invest in long term and if so…what about them? Bonds? Stocks?"

    Several years ago I heard from the lips of financial guru Terry Savage that the USA was that country.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqDrZYNafAg

    Replies: @Kronos

  50. @Neoconned
    @nebulafox

    Not surprised mossad was there.

    Thatbeing said, is Corona really that big of a deal? Isnt it a variation of the flu? Besides the shits and a fever what exactly is so horrid about it besides the 24/7 media sensationalizing it as their story du jour? Serious question from an uninformed person.....

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Jack D, @YetAnotherAnon, @Murray

    The death rate seems to be significantly higher than seasonal flu.

  51. @Dave3
    Back in the 1990s, Silicon Valley venture capitalists told us:

    "This newfangled Internet annihilates distance, allowing any sort of work to be performed anywhere."

    and

    "All start-ups hoping to receive funding must be located within an hour's drive of our offices on Sand Hill Road."

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

    I remember reading on another site that one of the real reasons for the concentration of tech in relatively few cities was Venture Capitalists didn’t want to be too far from their investments.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Redneck farmer

    Back in the 1990s, the WSJ ran an article about some Carnegie-Mellon computer geniuses who wanted to start a start-up in Pittsburgh, but Silicon Valley venture capitalists told them they'd need to be within convenient driving distance of Sand Hill Road in Palo Alto.

  52. @Redneck farmer
    @Dave3

    I remember reading on another site that one of the real reasons for the concentration of tech in relatively few cities was Venture Capitalists didn't want to be too far from their investments.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Back in the 1990s, the WSJ ran an article about some Carnegie-Mellon computer geniuses who wanted to start a start-up in Pittsburgh, but Silicon Valley venture capitalists told them they’d need to be within convenient driving distance of Sand Hill Road in Palo Alto.

  53. @J.Ross
    At this point it is clear that we are inside a Curb Your Enthusiasm show.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/jewish-groups-condemn-nazi-flag-display-sanders-rally-69438236
    What do you know, they are socialists after all.

    Replies: @Lockean Proviso

    Good example of agent provocateur to reinforce the antisemetic trope about Bernie.

  54. @Reg Cæsar

    The reality is that despite all the Information Superhighway blather in 1993 about how you could work from anywhere, the people at the top rely on face to face personal contact to get to and stay on the top.
     
    Is there some way we can slip this virus into Davos?

    Replies: @Lockean Proviso

    Is there some way we can slip this virus into Davos?

    No worries, the inner circle will continue to have exposed immunity blood boys and girls giving them regular antibody transfusions while they avoid winter by following summer from southern hemisphere estate to northern hemisphere estate as it progresses. Getting a COVID infection is for the little people.

  55. @Dr. Krieger
    Wow, who needs Viagra when you can read news like this?
    Blessed be Corona-Chan.

    Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin

    Corona-Chan was hiding in the bags full of cash for conference goers brought by agents of the PRC.

  56. @Neoconned
    @nebulafox

    Not surprised mossad was there.

    Thatbeing said, is Corona really that big of a deal? Isnt it a variation of the flu? Besides the shits and a fever what exactly is so horrid about it besides the 24/7 media sensationalizing it as their story du jour? Serious question from an uninformed person.....

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Jack D, @YetAnotherAnon, @Murray

    Swine flu is pretty nasty, so if it’s like that or worse, I’d rather not get it.

  57. @JimB

    What are sources of people with some degree of medical training who could quickly step in if we start running out of doctors and nurses? Ex-military medics? Firemen? Dentists? Orthodontists? Dermatologists?
     
    Veterinarians are probably more medically competent than firemen, dentists, orthodontists, and dermatologists.

    Replies: @oldfarmerbrown, @Chrisnonymous

    The answer to Steve’s question is more complicated than finding “medically-trained” personnel.

    The situation is not an all-hands type situation. Not like a mass accident where you need a lot of people to perform CPR or staunch bleeding. The non-severe cases don’t need hospitalization, while the severe cases need ICU and mechanical ventilation, both of which are specializations within health care.

    The reality is that most high-IQ people could be pulled off the street and taught to do what an ICU nurse does with a mechanically vented patient or a patient requiring isolation in about a day. On the other hand, the left hand side of the nursing bell curve probably cannot be taught to be ICU nurses even though they’ve been working in hospitals their whole lives. The same bell curve question applies to all health care personnel.

    With doctors, a majority of MDs cannot manage a mechanically-vented patient. You need a pulmonologist or intensivist, or maybe an anesthesiologist or surgeon. Regardless of underlying ability, I would put my life in the hands of an ICU-experienced PA/NP in this situation over a GP or oncologist.

    If we go off past outbreaks like 2002-2003 SARS, I think the capacity line should be upward sloping. In those cases, nursing staff did become incapacitated, but not, it seems, at a rate that affected the system.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    Thanks.

  58. @Chrisnonymous
    @JimB

    The answer to Steve's question is more complicated than finding "medically-trained" personnel.

    The situation is not an all-hands type situation. Not like a mass accident where you need a lot of people to perform CPR or staunch bleeding. The non-severe cases don't need hospitalization, while the severe cases need ICU and mechanical ventilation, both of which are specializations within health care.

    The reality is that most high-IQ people could be pulled off the street and taught to do what an ICU nurse does with a mechanically vented patient or a patient requiring isolation in about a day. On the other hand, the left hand side of the nursing bell curve probably cannot be taught to be ICU nurses even though they've been working in hospitals their whole lives. The same bell curve question applies to all health care personnel.

    With doctors, a majority of MDs cannot manage a mechanically-vented patient. You need a pulmonologist or intensivist, or maybe an anesthesiologist or surgeon. Regardless of underlying ability, I would put my life in the hands of an ICU-experienced PA/NP in this situation over a GP or oncologist.

    If we go off past outbreaks like 2002-2003 SARS, I think the capacity line should be upward sloping. In those cases, nursing staff did become incapacitated, but not, it seems, at a rate that affected the system.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Thanks.

  59. The reality is that despite all the Information Superhighway blather in 1993 about how you could work from anywhere, the people at the top rely on face to face personal contact to get to and stay on the top.

    I’ve always wondered about this with the elites who jet around the world in their private airplanes to conferences where they tell us to reduce our carbon footprint.

  60. @Reg Cæsar
    @nebulafox

    For many Unz.commenters, infecting Mossad, AIPAC and two-thirds of Congress is a feature, not a bug.

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @nebulafox

    “For many Unz.commenters, infecting Mossad, AIPAC and two-thirds of Congress is a feature, not a bug.”

    Count me as one.

  61. @Neoconned
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Thank you 4 the reply sir.

    3 more questions and i won't bother you no more....

    1) any health care stocks or other senior citizen exposed stocks, REITs, bonds etc you'd recommend....and no I'm not taking it as investment advice....more as generic market information....

    2) Any COUNTRIES you think will be a good bet to invest in long term and if so...what about them? Bonds? Stocks?

    3) Odd question but any advice on getting in on the trailer park landlord business? Good investment? There's a guy i know near NOLA who rents out small cabins and travel trailers....he gave me the idea....thank you for your time and for responding sir. It is appreciated.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Joe Stalin

    1) I am not advising you, but I currently avoid stocks, but those involved with hospitals and health care are good bets. The downside is all the complications from politics, government messing around. I would watch out if Democrats take control, then no way (because government involvement will ruin the business.)

    The hospital/health care angle is obvious. Not because of Corona-chan, but because we are aging. The Americans who actually pay for their care are getting older, and *we* will make increasing use of those services. There are billions of dollars in that.

    So, if you want to avoid stocks as I do, there are REITS that own hospitals, hospices, etc. No harm investing in those, but I would focus on non-traded to avoid public market pricing. And, to be a good boy, you can feel good that you are capitalizing the care our people need and will need more in the near future. Win/Win.

    2) This is evil, but the smart money is on China. So, if I wanted to be evil, I would indeed invest in China. Sorry, I will not do that. Eastern Europe has opportunities, some I have used via family connections, but it is a crap shoot. The Wild Wild West. There is a chance they will be the last White people on Earth who actually control their own countries, but they have a problem with corruption.

    But yeah, China and Eastern Europe.

    3) Nothing fundamentally wrong with mobile home communities. I knew people in them. One girl was a stripper who used her cash to buy a trailer and a lot. (We dated.) To paraphrase her, “I know this looks trashy, but I OWN it. Do YOU own your home?” I had to admit I did not then. I was paying rent. She now is a partner in a real estate company in Denver. No Joke. She earned it in those private rooms dancing naked in front of masturbating primates. — But I digress…

    Know the business. Get tax returns and bank records. What is the income? What are the taxes? (Someone here lied and twisted my words to fake that I advise people not to take taxes into account. What I said was plenty of investors have made money selling with no regard to taxes.)

    I have no involvement with trailer parks, but I would guess that they are actually a promising asset for the future — because they are affordable housing and more people will need that.

    Plan for the worst and hope for the best. God bless you, and good luck.

    BTW: All the usual CFP 101 stuff about asset allocation, your age-vs.-risk, and yes taxes, is important and you should listen to your local professional if you can.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Buzz Mohawk

    If you don't care about the fact that China uses slave labor, like a lot of American corporations, than yeah. And I'm not some hippie activist: it is what it is. I just get grimly amused by the Vox and Cato Institute types who laud CEOs as moral exemplars for American society.

    Re, strippers: mabye my experiences are a little weird... but God bless strippers. I mean that sincerely. Hardcore. cold, and business-like when on duty: it's not like hookers, a lot of them aren't junkies and end up transitioning well to the corporate world when they've earned enough cash or earned the degree to transition out of the business. But off the stage, if you are down and out, they'll empathise with you and treat you like a normal human being. If nobody's treated you that way in a while, for whatever reason, it's important in a way that is hard to describe to someone who has never been there.

  62. @Neoconned
    @nebulafox

    Not surprised mossad was there.

    Thatbeing said, is Corona really that big of a deal? Isnt it a variation of the flu? Besides the shits and a fever what exactly is so horrid about it besides the 24/7 media sensationalizing it as their story du jour? Serious question from an uninformed person.....

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Jack D, @YetAnotherAnon, @Murray

    It’s not the virus itself that’s the big deal, unless you’re elderly or immunocompromised. Lots of us will catch it, be mildly to severely ill for a few weeks, then recover.

    The problem is that it’s highly contagious, severe enough to put 5-20% of infectees in hospital, and not deadly enough to burn itself out quickly by killing people.

    This thread outlines the problem of exponential increase.

    Given the current doubling rate of something less than a week, we end up with millions infected by mid-Spring in the US alone. Even if the death or morbidity rate is lower than the estimates, that still results in hundreds of thousands to millions of people requiring hospitalization, resulting in rampant infection among healthcare workers, and potentially impairing all sorts of essential services. Businesses could close or furlough most of their staff, and critical infrastructure could be crippled due to a shortage of personnel.

    It sounds alarmist, sure, but that’s because we modern WEIRDOs have no experience with true pandemics. Eventually most people get better, and the virus peters out due to herd immunity, but in the meantime things could get pretty bad.

  63. @Neoconned
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Thank you 4 the reply sir.

    3 more questions and i won't bother you no more....

    1) any health care stocks or other senior citizen exposed stocks, REITs, bonds etc you'd recommend....and no I'm not taking it as investment advice....more as generic market information....

    2) Any COUNTRIES you think will be a good bet to invest in long term and if so...what about them? Bonds? Stocks?

    3) Odd question but any advice on getting in on the trailer park landlord business? Good investment? There's a guy i know near NOLA who rents out small cabins and travel trailers....he gave me the idea....thank you for your time and for responding sir. It is appreciated.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Joe Stalin

    “Any COUNTRIES you think will be a good bet to invest in long term and if so…what about them? Bonds? Stocks?”

    Several years ago I heard from the lips of financial guru Terry Savage that the USA was that country.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Joe Stalin

    1) Switzerland

    2) New Zealand

    3) Australia

    4) Any small respectable countries that won’t attract the ire of the US and China.

  64. @nebulafox
    OT:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/un-gender-bias-report-offers-a-simple-explanation-for-elizabeth-warren/ar-BB10Ql4C

    Good grief, the journalists and academics and angry UMC ladies just can't accept their preferences are not necessarily shared by the rest of the nation, even within their own party. It's absurd to chalk this up to sexism, or to her being shafted, or whatever. I'm sure plenty of the people who refused to back Warren would have been just fine with supporting Tulsi Gabbard. Warren just did not appeal to enough of the electorate. She was also stupid enough to hand over her campaign to 20/30-something progressive activists largely oblivious to what people outside their circle thought. It's really that simple.

    Replies: @Dr. Krieger, @S. Anonyia

    Warren lost her momentum when she declared that she would give a 9 year old tranny veto power over her Secretary of Education.

    A lot of hardcore feminists who had liked her abandoned fauxwokahantas at that point.

    Nobody other than Silicon Valley millionaires can stomach trans pandering.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @S. Anonyia

    Any bets on how her voting base will be divided between Biden and Sanders?

  65. @S. Anonyia
    @nebulafox

    Warren lost her momentum when she declared that she would give a 9 year old tranny veto power over her Secretary of Education.

    A lot of hardcore feminists who had liked her abandoned fauxwokahantas at that point.

    Nobody other than Silicon Valley millionaires can stomach trans pandering.

    Replies: @Kronos

    Any bets on how her voting base will be divided between Biden and Sanders?

  66. @Joe Stalin
    @Neoconned

    "Any COUNTRIES you think will be a good bet to invest in long term and if so…what about them? Bonds? Stocks?"

    Several years ago I heard from the lips of financial guru Terry Savage that the USA was that country.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqDrZYNafAg

    Replies: @Kronos

    1) Switzerland

    2) New Zealand

    3) Australia

    4) Any small respectable countries that won’t attract the ire of the US and China.

  67. How wonderful; that curve that bounds the blue area comes ever so close to the horizontal dashed line but does not cross it.

  68. @Anonymous
    High concentrations of a parasite with global reach was found in Washington DC. In other news there was an outbreak of COVID-19 at AIPAC.

    Replies: @Achilles Wannabe

    Very good!

  69. @Reg Cæsar
    @nebulafox

    For many Unz.commenters, infecting Mossad, AIPAC and two-thirds of Congress is a feature, not a bug.

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @nebulafox

    I’ve got nothing against the Israelis. They play the game well. I would do the exact some thing in their position.

    It’s the American useful idiots I cannot stand. In a way, it is worse with the GOP, since a good chunk of them embrace Israel fetishism because they lack the cajones to buck their plutocratic masters and be proper American nationalists in policy, beyond flag waving and treating the military like some bizarre Roman style cult.

  70. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Neoconned

    1) I am not advising you, but I currently avoid stocks, but those involved with hospitals and health care are good bets. The downside is all the complications from politics, government messing around. I would watch out if Democrats take control, then no way (because government involvement will ruin the business.)

    The hospital/health care angle is obvious. Not because of Corona-chan, but because we are aging. The Americans who actually pay for their care are getting older, and *we* will make increasing use of those services. There are billions of dollars in that.

    So, if you want to avoid stocks as I do, there are REITS that own hospitals, hospices, etc. No harm investing in those, but I would focus on non-traded to avoid public market pricing. And, to be a good boy, you can feel good that you are capitalizing the care our people need and will need more in the near future. Win/Win.

    2) This is evil, but the smart money is on China. So, if I wanted to be evil, I would indeed invest in China. Sorry, I will not do that. Eastern Europe has opportunities, some I have used via family connections, but it is a crap shoot. The Wild Wild West. There is a chance they will be the last White people on Earth who actually control their own countries, but they have a problem with corruption.

    But yeah, China and Eastern Europe.

    3) Nothing fundamentally wrong with mobile home communities. I knew people in them. One girl was a stripper who used her cash to buy a trailer and a lot. (We dated.) To paraphrase her, "I know this looks trashy, but I OWN it. Do YOU own your home?" I had to admit I did not then. I was paying rent. She now is a partner in a real estate company in Denver. No Joke. She earned it in those private rooms dancing naked in front of masturbating primates. -- But I digress...

    Know the business. Get tax returns and bank records. What is the income? What are the taxes? (Someone here lied and twisted my words to fake that I advise people not to take taxes into account. What I said was plenty of investors have made money selling with no regard to taxes.)

    I have no involvement with trailer parks, but I would guess that they are actually a promising asset for the future -- because they are affordable housing and more people will need that.

    Plan for the worst and hope for the best. God bless you, and good luck.

    BTW: All the usual CFP 101 stuff about asset allocation, your age-vs.-risk, and yes taxes, is important and you should listen to your local professional if you can.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    If you don’t care about the fact that China uses slave labor, like a lot of American corporations, than yeah. And I’m not some hippie activist: it is what it is. I just get grimly amused by the Vox and Cato Institute types who laud CEOs as moral exemplars for American society.

    Re, strippers: mabye my experiences are a little weird… but God bless strippers. I mean that sincerely. Hardcore. cold, and business-like when on duty: it’s not like hookers, a lot of them aren’t junkies and end up transitioning well to the corporate world when they’ve earned enough cash or earned the degree to transition out of the business. But off the stage, if you are down and out, they’ll empathise with you and treat you like a normal human being. If nobody’s treated you that way in a while, for whatever reason, it’s important in a way that is hard to describe to someone who has never been there.

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