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By Aleksander Ksiazkiewicz of the U. of Illinois, from The Journal of Politics:

But there is also this curious piece:

Owls and Larks, Knotters and Simplifiers:
The origins of modern political Science
by Dagobert D. Manteltasche

I don’t think Dagobert D. Mantelasche is a real person, but I could be wrong.

 
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  1. anon[358] • Disclaimer says:

    How about the relationship between going to work at a full time job and conservatism?

    9-5? If only.

    And 9-5 privileges conservatives? There aren’t many serious jobs that start later.

  2. bomag says:

    First link: behind a paywall; off-hand, there are too many counter-examples.

    Second link: pretty funny.

  3. 2020 New York Times Op-Ed.

    The Unbearable Brightness of Waking up Early: How the Early Bird Sympathizes with White Nationalism

    • LOL: Cowboy shaw
    • Replies: @El Dato
  4. Sure sounds like someone is playing tricks. Here’s the first sentence of the synopsis of another of Mantelasche’s articles: “This article describes a parsimonious statistical method for deducing everything that can be known about the unknown by analysing anything that happens to be known about the known.” As they say in the news biz, great story if true.

    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/095169280201400108

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    , @RickinJax
  5. El Dato says:

    “9-to-5 schedule”

    I wish! More like “arbitrary boss priority schedule”.

    It’s even worse because I’m not a morning person.

    • Replies: @Charon
    , @Buzz Mohawk
  6. But there is also this curious piece:

    Chitinous and Gastropod– a riveting cop show about two Parisian restaurant inspectors!

    In other fake-research news, blank slatism takes another hit (via @hbdchick):

    • Replies: @BB753
    , @Anon
    , @JWO
  7. Neoconned says:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwenzori_Mountains

    OT: Steve, was reading about the types of Moorland biomes in the world and stumbled onto this gem. Never heard of the Rwenzori Mountains and never knew they reached near 17k ft! Knew Uganda had mountains but not like this.

    Saw the tropical glacier run off & figured youd be interested.

    Never heard of an “Afroalpine” biome either but similar apparently what you see on kilimanjaro etc

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  8. Altai says:

    OT: But there is a BBC documentary up for free view which depicts a woman conceived by sperm donor (Raised by two lesbian parents) giving an insight into her meeting her 19 half siblings. So much BPD.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-49390016/my-mum-s-meeting-my-dad-for-the-first-time

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  9. Dagobert D. Mantelasche has no WkikPedia entry, so he’s obviosly fake. He’s on FaceBook, but that place is full of fakes, frauds, and phonies.

    • Replies: @Thirdtwin
    , @sailor1031
  10. BB753 says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Malcolm Gladwell is starting to look like an old lesbian, a predicament which ails many low-testosterone middle-aged men.

  11. @Neoconned

    Ice-capped tropical mountains like the Ruwenzori are pretty interesting, as Sir H. Rider Haggard figured out in his 1880s bestseller King Solomon’s Mines. I believe Herodotus referred to them as the Mountains of the Moon and that they were source of the Nile. Bob Rafelson directed a decent movie in 1990 about the discovery of the source of the Nile by Speke and Burton in the “Mountains of the Moon.”

  12. @Tono Bungay

    As they say in the news biz, great story if true.

    = Good story if good story…truth lies in the eye of those who watch

  13. Charon says:
    @El Dato

    9 to 5 are Democrat working hours, with long lunches, a liberal leave policy, six weeks vacation, “paid family leave”, etc etc.

    Republicans work 5 (am) to 9 (pm) and never take time off because they’re actually running businesses

  14. dearieme says:

    I’ve never met a Professor Dr. Dr. Dr. that I know of but an old friend is a Dr. Dr. Frau Dr.

    • LOL: jim jones
  15. The Z Blog says: • Website

    I don’t think Dagobert D. Mantelasche is a real person, but I could be wrong.

    Well, I bet his good friend and colleague, Otto I.Q. Besser-Wisser, would have something to say about that.

  16. David says:

    Herodotus wrote off the idea that the Nile was supplied by melting snow.

    The third of the ways [to account for the source of the Nile] is much the most specious, but nevertheless it is the most mistaken of all: for indeed this way has no more truth in it than the rest, alleging as it does that the Nile flows from melting snow; whereas it flows out of Libya through the midst of the Ethiopians, and so comes out into Egypt. How then should it flow from snow, when it flows from the hottest parts to those which are cooler? And indeed most of the facts are such as to convince a man (one at least who is capable of reasoning about such matters), that it is not at all likely that it flows from snow.

  17. @Altai

    I see that and raise you:

    NBC News: “Heterosexuality Is Just Not Working’

    https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/08/23/nbc-news-heterosexuality-is-just-not-working/

    Paging Whiskey, paging Whiskey to the thread…

  18. Stogumber says:

    Steve, you are right of course – Manteltasche is a rather elaborate hoax. Rather transparent for German readers – the Spiekeroog University where he allegedly teaches doesn’t exist. He relies on a dead scientist called Otto I.Q. Besser-Wisser (which would be wiseacre or smartass in English).
    He was obviously invented by a German who wanted to stultify Angloamerican editors who would believe that anything might be German science if only it’s a bit crazy and a lot of complicated terms are used.
    Scurrilously, Manteltasche made it into a German publication, too, with an alleged book about the history of rice pudding – because the book was said to have been printed in Cambridge (and Germans believe that anything might be Angloamerican science if only it is printed in Cambridge).

    • Replies: @Fabian Forge
  19. El Dato says:
    @imper-v-ious

    “Dreams of lynchings at dawn: White earlybirdism is a menace to America”

    Meanwhile, this is actually a story in the 21st:

    NASA astronaut accused of hacking ex-spouse’s bank account from space

    > Two femmes (Anne McClain, Summer Worden), one couple.
    > Anne is also a former “Air Force intelligence officer”
    > Both [email protected]
    > Now in divorce proceedings (1 kid)
    > Ms McClain being accused of “hacking” the other’s bank account from low earth orbit.

    Cyberpunk is fully here, except for the A.I.

    The story fizzles a bit because it’s more like “accessing” than “hacking”, as “A lawyer for McClain told the newspaper that the astronaut was merely tending the couple’s still-connected finances.”, so probably just had the 2FA token to do a proper web access.

    • Replies: @dr kill
    , @Thea
    , @Simply Simon
  20. Well . . . Hitler was a late riser . . . not sure about the significance of that fact.

  21. Thirdtwin says:
    @The Alarmist

    “Professor of Hypothetical Theory” lol

  22. El Dato says:

    Dagobert D. Manteltasche

    The only one that I know who is called “Dagobert” is the german version of Scrooge McDuck.

    And a “Manteltasche” is the german word for coat pocket.
    (Image source: Jimbo’s font of sedimentary edition)

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  23. Alice says:

    1Professor Dr. Dr. Dr. Dagobert D. Manteltasche is Professor of Hypothetical Theory at the Central Institute for Questions and Answers, Spiekeroog University.

    so yea, that’s fake.

    But that record and author info is from the Springer link. I don’t have access to a university. Did someone hack Springer’s cite to include a nonexistent journal entry for a real journal, or is the journal also fake, or did that paper get published?

  24. @El Dato

    From one of the greatest movies of all time:

  25. Steve

    I presume you will begin your post-mortem examination of the White American National Corpse at 6:AM California West Coast time as you watch the season premier of……..ESPN GAME DAY!!!!

  26. prosa123 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    John Speke’s death is an interesting story all its own. He died of a gunshot wound while hunting in England, the official inquiry said it was accidental but his rival Burton maintained it was self-inflicted.

    • Replies: @Anon
  27. @BB753

    He certainly does look weird. Either trim that hair or go full Sideshow Bob.

  28. countenance says: • Website

    I think the urban-nonurban dichotomy is more of a cause than the morning-night dichotomy.

  29. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    As we continue to assimilate everyone to leftist culture, even country music is sounding black, they have no need to worry about conservatives and they can keep handing out awards to those who annihilate the last vestiges of them, Waco, Rubyridge. With all the anti-whiteness of the country using whites conservatives as examples for people to assimilate to just wasn’t working. Butt turning everyone gangland left is working like a charm. Just look at the new conservatives and faces of the right? If that doesn’t tell you the direction of the country nothing does. I guess you don’t have to worry about our sleep either.

    • Replies: @Anon
  30. Corvinus says:

    “I don’t think Dagobert D. Mantelasche is a real person, but I could be wrong.”

    You are wrong. The professor is associated with a university and institute.

    https://www.uarctic.org/
    https://www.thearcticinstitute.org/

    As far as the article you linked to (from 2001)…

    “Helmut Spargel once observed, ‘The world is divided into two kinds of people : owls and larks’. Larks believe in the principle of ‘early to bed and early to rise’. For them this is both a pragmatic virtue (they feel at their best early in the day), and a moral injunction.

    Owls march to a different tune – but only at night. They rise and sleep l ate because they work best that way. The classic owl story is George Bernard Shaw’s invitation to a breakfast meeting during his first visit to the United States. He inquired what time this would be, and on learning that it could be at any time between 7.00 and 8.30 a.m., politely declined the invitation explaining that he would have gone to bed by then.

    [This] theory is challenged by [the] Knotter and Simplifier Theory– ‘the world is divided into two kinds of people: knotters and simplifiers:’ Knotters believe the world is terribly complex and only very abstruse and complex theories can hope to explain even the smallest part of it–even better to express them in arcane language, and best of all in arcane symbols. The ultimate triumph for the knotter is to theorize about a problem you didn’t even know was a problem in a language you can’t understand.

    Simplifiers believe in plain talk about the real world. The classic example is the open ing sentence of the Communist Manifesto: ‘The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class conflict’. Simplifiers dismiss Knotter Theory as ‘bullshit’ or occasionally, though with reluctance because it complicates things, they refer to ‘the higher bullshit’ or to a ‘high bullshit quotient’.

    Most seminar-room debate boils down to pitched battle between knotters and simplifiers. The simplifier says that A causes B, that black is black, white is white, and that two and two are four. The knotter comes in, sometimes with an Oxford stammer and long, thoughtful pauses, saying ‘Well, yes…,I wouldn’t exactly disagree with what you say a bout the Peruvian salt industry… though I do feel…hat it is just slightly more…complex than you sometimes seem to imply…there might be a case, perhaps…for adding something of a gloss…a footnote, if you catch my drift.’

    Is the world divided either into owls and l arks, or knotters and simplifiers? Or is it divided into both owls and larks and knotters and simplifiers? Even more crucial: what is the relevance of this to modern theories of politics? The null hypothesis of this article is that there is no empirical relationship between the two dichotomies, or indeed, between them and anything of any interest whatsoever.”

    So, what are YOU, Mr. Sailer? An owl or a lark? A knotter or a simplifier? Or do you believe in Dr. Mantelasche’s null hypothesis? That would take some NOTICING.

    In addition, his research does have implications regarding how and why liberals and conservatives think differently from an “human biodiversity” standpoint.

    A 2003 review of research conducted in five countries looked at 22 separate tests of the hypothesis that fear fuels conservative viewpoints and found it was universally true. Brain scans also show that people who self-identify as conservative have larger and more active right amygdalas, an area of the brain associated with expressing and processing fear. This aligns with the idea that feeling afraid makes people lean more to the right. The researchers note that the amygdala may “hijack” a person’s hippocampus, responsible for processing and reasoning, by disabling him/her from clearly assessing situations in a logical and rationale manner.

    http://faculty.virginia.edu/haidtlab/jost.glaser.political-conservatism-as-motivated-social-cog.pdf

  31. L Woods says:

    Morning people tend to be conformist intellectual non-entities, which would certainly describe the average “conservative” well. I’d suspect that dissident right types would leap frog this designation and look more like “liberals.”

  32. @Steve Sailer

    Mountains Of The Moon has only Fiona Shaw as a White woman that I see from the internet.

    A river movie by some Aspen hotshot named Rafelson with a couple of boring dopes and no Marlon Brando nor Robert Duvall nor Martin Sheen nor G. D. Spradlin nor any Playboy Playmates such as gun-toting, hip-shaking Cynthia Wood nor forlorn and world weary French female dope smokers played by Aurore Clément in the French plantation scene with her beautiful shapely boobs joyfully jutting out like a couple of bananas off of Josephine Baker’s banana skirt and you expect us Unz Review commenters to bark with wild abandon about it?

    Bullshit!

    Back to Trumpy’s beautiful TARIFFS on the Chinese Communist Party!

  33. Has anything by Dagobert D. Mantelasche ever been published in the Journal of Prehistoric Sharpie Drawings?

  34. 23andMe will give you a predicted average waking time, factoring in your age. My predicted wake time was both surprisingly late and pretty accurate. If the world would not conspire against me, I would rise at 8:30 as my trait sharing brethren seem to have accomplished.

  35. Anon[304] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    The problem with the debunking paper is that the data is all self-reported. One thing I’ve noticed about professionals is that they tend to downplay how much work they do. It’s a form of bragging. “Oh, I just whipped this off. It took no time at all,” is typical. It makes your talent look more like innate genius, not the result of hard work. There’s also a natural tendency for people who are good at something to discount how much work they do because they’re actually enjoying it, or because it’s less difficult for them. If it’s easy to do or fun, it doesn’t feel like work.

    I would be extremely skeptical about any paper that uses data in which work hours aren’t being reported by a neutral observer. The natural human tendency to lie and brag is too strong.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  36. eah says:

    OT

    A billboard in Canada — itself interesting, but scroll down thru the Twitter thread to see the replies: mostly a lot of bitching by non-whites — just so it’s again clear: they demand nothing less than total surrender by Whites in white countries.

  37. Anon[304] • Disclaimer says:
    @prosa123

    He was climbing over a fence when it happened. If I were trying to commit suicide by shooting myself, I would not do it while trying to climb over a fence. It would tend to break your concentration, if you see what I mean. I suspect it was accidental. Just because you can go explore in Africa doesn’t mean you’re any good with a gun, or that you make a practice of gun safety.

  38. So, in sum, Republicans should focus on programs that turn Americans into early rising, weight lifting, married white men.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  39. res says:

    That second paper is hilarious. Does anyone know the background?

    Full text for both papers is available at sci-hub (search by DOI).
    https://whereisscihub.now.sh/

    Data for the first paper is available at https://dataverse.harvard.edu/dataset.xhtml?persistentId=doi:10.7910/DVN/DJVNZF
    Sample 8 (the meat of the data AFAICT) is from Add Health and has to be obtained separately.

    This seems like an interesting topic, but I’m not sure what to make of this paper (the first). Note sentence which I highlight below.

    I hypothesize that morningness is positively correlated with conservatism for three sets of reasons. First, chronotype may contribute to political ideology through a motivated social cognitive process (cf. Jost et al. 2009). Professional institutions in many contemporary societies are structured around a morning, 9-to-5 schedule. This social clock creates a status quo that privileges certain chronotypes over others, contributing to disparate outcomes by chronotype in a variety of domains (Fabbian et al. 2016). Because the social clock is a component of the societal status quo, morning types who are advantaged by the social clock may be more likely to adopt a conservative belief system that supports the societal status quo more generally; conversely, evening types may be more likely to become politically liberal.
    Second, to the extent that chronotype is malleable, people’s values may affect their chronotype through their behavioral choices. This may occur directly through an active desire to conform to societal norms and organize one’s own time in accordance with the social clock. It may also result indirectly from differences in lifestyle choices made by liberals and conservatives, where conservatives may select career paths, family structures, and housing environments (e.g., outside urban cores) that are more conducive to a morning orientation.
    Third, chronotype and political ideology may share some common antecedents, such as Openness and Conscientiousness (cf. Lipnevich et al. 2017 and Sibley et al. 2015). Another antecedent may be shared genetic influences, as both political ideology and chronotype have been found to have heritable components (cf. Hatemi et al. 2014 and Hur 2007). A third may be the cosocialization of political ideology with values that encourage either adhering to or challenging social norms, like the social clock. A final connection is the geographical correlation between average community ideology and light pollution (i.e., urban liberalism, rural conservatism). In short, there are many reasons to expect that morningness will correlate positively with conservatism. Below, I test for this relationship, controlling for several relevant correlates.

    UKBB GWAS of chronotype: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-08259-7

    The Hatemi et al. 2014 reference above also looks interesting.
    Genetic Influences on Political Ideologies: Twin Analyses of 19 Measures of Political Ideologies from Five Democracies and Genome-Wide Findings from Three Populations
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4038932/

  40. Manteltasche means “coat pocket”.

  41. SFG says:

    I always figured conservatives were disciplined and went to bed early and so woke up early, whereas liberals stayed up all night doing what they enjoyed and tended to wake up later as a result. All other things being equal, of course.

    He says it correlates with conscientiousness and openness (going the other way), which have also been correlated with political views. So it makes sense.

    The second article does appear to be a joke though.

  42. Svevlad says:

    “Ksiazkiewicz”
    Hol up that ain’t a real last name

  43. don’t think Dagobert D. Mantelasche is a real person…

    Steve trying to head off a rash of comments by “Anon” commenters like

    Psychology Twitter thinks Mantelasche isn’t a real person. I won’t go into the details but there are several tells.

    • Replies: @Anon
  44. JWO says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    It’s the hair. He’s Jamaicanese: part Afro-Jamaican, part Chinese from his mom’s side and English from his dad’s side. Strangely, he looks Jewish.

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
  45. @Buzz Mohawk

    You forgot the report covers again, didn’t you?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  46. My daily start time varies from day to day, based on the day’s work load. Yesterday I started at 5:34. The day before, 5:20. The day before that, 6:11. I’ve had start times as early as 4:30am, but as late as 9am.

    I wonder where that fits into this animal kingdom? Maybe I am the Walrus.

    • Replies: @SFG
  47. JWO says:

    That actually makes sense. As the Marines used to say, “We do more before 9am than most people do in a whole day.”

    Getting up early takes discipline. Discipline is antithetical to liberalism. Liberals are romanticists who believe you should do everything based on feelings. Since feelings come and go, they could never be counted on to be disciplined about anything.

    • Replies: @SFG
    , @ricpic
    , @I Have Scinde
  48. @BB753

    Like Pinker. Get off the chronic cardio and under a barbell. And for God’s sake eat some red meat. Maybe even shoot a gun.

    • Replies: @L Woods
  49. @Steve Sailer

    Rafelson directed Theresa Russell in Black Widow so he’s OK, but that “Mountains of the Moon” movie ain’t got much more than two boring boobs and a bunch of Blacks doing this or that.

    Russell is a Paup and a Mall from California and she’s built pretty good. People might think she’s beautiful because of her wide set eyes and mouth just wide enough to overlap the eye gap. Theresa Russell also has fine cheekbones and an elegant jawline.

    Theresa Russell could be English and German in ancestry; lots of people in the USA have both English and German ancestry. They are usually extraordinarily handsome with good manners.

    By the way, I have about a half dozen or more comments that are as yet unmoderated, and it would be nice if the whim were to be deployed to moderate them on through.

    I occasionally break with good manners and bring up the WHIM QUESTION in order to show some of the others that they are not the only ones to have comments unmoderated.

    Thank you,

    If Trump were to go to his golf course in Scotland to talk about his beautiful TARIFFS, would you blog about Trump’s tariffs then?

    • Replies: @Laurence Whelk
  50. OFF TOPIC —

    France’s Macron to push for charter on biodiversity at G7 summit

    PARIS (Reuters) – French President Emmanuel Macron said on Friday that he would put pressure on the United States to sign a charter on protecting biodiversity at the G7 summit in Biarritz, France this weekend.

    “We have talked about diversity. It is for the first time, at this G7, that we will sign a charter for biodiversity, we are committed to this, it will be signed by all,” he said in an interview with news website Konbini in the garden of his Elysee palace.

    Asked whether this would include the United States, Macron said: “That is the real question, we will see, I will put pressure.”

    “It will be signed by India, which is also very important,” he added.

    In May, after meeting scientists from the Intergovernmental Panel on Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services (IPBES), Macron said he would bring up the issue of biodiversity in talks within the G7.

    He said at the time that his government would seek to increase the size of natural areas under protection and take tax and budget measures to support biodiversity. He added that he also wants the European Union to encourage financing of sustainable crops as part of its common agriculture policy.

    IPBES – which groups 130 countries, including the United States, Russia and China – said in a report released in May that one million animal and plant species are at risk of extinction due to humans’ relentless pursuit of economic growth.

    Reporting by Elizabeth Pineau and Geert De Clercq; Editing by Andrew Heavens

    🙂

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  51. Steve

    Apparently, you didn’t get my obscure reference in my comment that you won’t let through…

    So here it goes from britannica.com

    “The Lark Ascending, tone poem by English composer Ralph Vaughan Williams………Vaughan Williams composed The Lark Ascending in 1914, in the early days of WW1, when a pastoral scence of a singing bird on the wing seemed far removed from reality….The war so preoccupied public attention that the premiere of THE LARK ASCENDING………..George Meredith’s poem served as the inspiration…….

    Poem by George Meredith about the Lark:

    He rises and begins to round,

    He drops the silver chain of sound

    Of many links without a break

    In chirrup, whistle, slur and shake

    And he the wine which overflows

    To lift us with him as he goes

    Till lost on his aerial

    In light, and then fancy sings

    Ralph Vaughan Williams THE LARK ASCENDING is the about the terrible sadness about the mass slaughter of young Working Class English Men on the Battlefields of France during WW1…..The analogy with Donald Trump’s Working Class Native Born White American Conservative Voting Bloc should be obvious……Let this post go through and I will tell you more depressing details about Williams’ THE LARK ASCENDING………BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW!!!

  52. @War for Blair Mountain

    Steve

    Come on now…let the above post out of comment control PRISON….

  53. Steve

    Off topic:

    Track and Field News….Apparently 60 meter world record holder Christian Coleman…..big time steroid drug cheat…or maybe he was using those magical Jamaican Yams….News Story from a few hours ago…

  54. @Corvinus

    So, what are YOU, Mr. Sailer?

    An owl or a lark?

    bored identity strongly believes that Uncle Sailer is a classic example of lowrk,

    Of course, Manic Mondays & Ruby Tuesdays are exceptions because of Uncle Sailer’s weekly deadline obligations to particularly unpronounceable grubstaker that actually still pays his contributors… like it’s 1999.

  55. SFG says:
    @JWO

    I agree with you about discipline (indeed, the intermediate nature of my schedule suggests to me a reason for my bizarre neither-fish-nor-fowl politics; I’m the only immigration-restrictionist atheist I know who thinks religion is generally good for society, at least in the West, and the welfare state is too small)…

    But the thing about feelings is funny. The Enlightenment, which was the foundation of modern liberal ideals, was all about reason over emotion, and Romanticism, which accompanied nationalism in Europe, was a reaction against that. (Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing…in the arts.) As late as the 50s the left had all kinds of technocratic, rational plans.

    But now it’s the left that’s all safe-space-y and equating being nasty to someone with violence. What happened?

  56. SFG says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    That sounds pretty lark-y to me. You’re a morning person, like lots of conservatives.

  57. Anon[304] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    There’s a hybrid (lowbrid?) of rap and country western that exists these days. It’s the sort of music that makes me despair for my fellow human beings. Anyone who likes this stuff not only has no clue what good taste is, they never will have good taste. They’re too dumb to be teachable.

    • Agree: MikeatMikedotMike
  58. L Woods says:
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    It seems to me that a hybrid approach is best (ie calisthenics, HIIT), but “lifting bro” has become a macho truism on the right so whatever I guess.

  59. Sparkon says:

    There is a growing body of evidence that night owls and night shift workers may suffer poor health outcomes.

    In the first ever international review of studies analysing whether being an early riser or a night owl can influence your health, researchers have uncovered a growing body of evidence indicating an increased risk of ill health in people with an evening preference as they have more erratic eating patterns and consume more unhealthy foods.


    Is being a night owl bad for your health?
    Night owls may have a higher risk of suffering from heart disease and type 2 diabetes than early risers

    Long-term night shift work is associated with an increased risk of certain cancers, as well as metabolic problems, heart disease, ulcers, gastrointestinal problems and obesity. … People who work night shifts or rotating shifts also often don’t sleep enough, and long-term sleep deprivation is known to be bad for health.

    One of the problems could be that when a person works at night, the light exposure suppresses melatonin (which is normally secreted at night). People who work night shifts or rotating shifts also often don’t sleep enough, and long-term sleep deprivation is known to be bad for health. Shift work also disrupts the body’s circadian rhythms and causes them to become out of sync with the external environment and/or behavioral cycles.

    Living & Coping With Shift Work Disorder

    In my view, it is possible but not likely that any of this has a strong bearing on political orientation or ideology.

    I’ve heard the theory that all conservatism is based on fear, so perhaps it is those people who are afraid of the dark, and stay up all night rather than going to bed, who are most likely to identify themselves as conservatives. Or maybe a conservative might rightly fear not getting enough sleep, and always get eight hours of shut eye, the best plan.

    I remember a few liberal co-workers who always enjoyed talking about Carson’s show from the night before…in between yawns, while most of the more straight-laced types — conservatives — would not stay up just to hear Carson’s corny jokes and McMahon’s bellowing laughter.

    I suffered through a few years of rotating shift work while in the service, and “bled” through many mids. Not fun, and hard on the mind and body. Now I try to get in eight hours because I know I always feel my best after a good night’s sleep.

  60. @Anon

    Agreed Anon.
    The original assertion as a presumed counterpoint to 10000 hours is as much as saying “the top 10% of 8th graders test at the middle 50% of 10th graders.”

    Duh. Statistical wonderwork. We are shocked, shocked.

    The point of 10000 hours is: the 8th grader has within her agency to work twice as hard and test with the top 10% of 10th graders. Same applies to the 10000 hour rule.

    There is no claim that some people are not specially advantaged. That there was, is a straw man so to repeat: there is no claim that some people are not specially advantaged.

    There is also no obvious evidence that the only contributing factor to special advantage in a multiple regression model is genetics, though that’s the hammer with which we pound all screws and iPhones in the comments on these pages, followed by immediate self-congratulation and a dis-continuation of inquiry.

    Meanwhile, no one said that genetics didn’t play a factor either – it’s just that we didn’t stop thinking.

    The 10000 hour rule is more of a rule of thumb – it tells you that in the next 2-3, even four sigmas short of the top-performing sigma (the one with “natural talent”), individuals can apply – practice – , discipline, hours, time-for-neural-rewiring, “technique”, “technics”, to become “technical”, and in becoming technical, to match or even surpass those with “talent”.

    This is good news to the majority who are of moderate and diverse rather than extreme and acute talent.

    It also means that if you decide B+/A- is good enough for you, for example, you can emphasize arts or sports, and be an overall, much-better, well-rounded, accomplished individual, who has the technique and self-confidence to bear down in the occasional new area here and there to acquire new mastery. Paradoxically – this practice, of practicing what you are not now good at, at “sucking before you are awesome”, is one I’m guessing (I, ahhh, “noticed”) is well understood by the East-Anglian/Danish side of the Mason-Dixon line but not acknowledged elsewhere – so it’s kind of a “secret” of “European” success.

    But mediocrity will have nothing of it, so: “genetics, genetics, genetics”.

    • Replies: @David
    , @ben tillman
  61. @JWO

    His dad I believe was Scottish and a math professor which makes his stumbles about that topic even more embarrassing.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  62. ricpic says:
    @frank d niles

    In this and in every other respect Hitler was a hippie.

    • Replies: @HA
    , @Anonymous
    , @dfordoom
  63. ricpic says:
    @JWO

    Actually liberals are quite disciplined in one respect: delivering the liberal lie, i.e. the upside down version of reality, sans deviation.

  64. eah says:
    @eah

    OT

    For future reference:

  65. @Anon

    Very good. You would think the 10,000 hours rule would be just some vaguely diverting apolitical factoid.

    But lo and behold, it’s political as all get out!

    Because it debunks the uber-eugenical braindeadedness of this official brainwashing website.

    So let me get this straight. All these foam-at-the-mouth, pull-yourself-up-by-your-own-bootstraps, I-got-mine-why-don’t-you-got-yours, why-don’t-you-go-work-at-McDonalds self-made idiot men oppose hard work? Or don’t think it is valuable?

    I would say that, statistically speaking, this organ’s kinds of conservatives are by far to be the most hypocritical and confused of all human species.

  66. bomag says:
    @Corvinus

    So conservatives have larger brains than liberals. Well, if you insist.

    Conservatives: more careful and alert to threats. Doesn’t necessarily correlate with fear, but the Narrative must be fed.

    For that matter, libs are the ones found agitating for safe spaces; regulation; safety nets; etc., bravely spending other peoples money and social capital on various boondoggles.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @ben tillman
  67. eah says:
    @eah

  68. J.Ross says:

    The only Dagobert I can describe without binging is Dagobert Runes, author of the Hebrew Impact on Western Civilization. He was from long enough ago that his name, while unusual, would not set off authenticity alarms.
    What is implied in conflating conservatism with early rising is another conflation, that of nocturnalism and permissiveness. This is not necessarily a good lumping. People can keep late hours out of duty or to earn more money.

  69. @dearieme

    Then there’s Major Major Major Major.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  70. @Corvinus

    Helmut Spargel, that famous host of Down home Cooking with Helmut Spargel.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  71. RickinJax says:
    @Tono Bungay

    Citing an article by Clavicle and Patella might be a clue too.

  72. @Couch Scientist

    So, in sum, Republicans should focus on programs that turn Americans into early rising, weight lifting, married white men.

    Gee, I was kind of hoping for something along the lines of The Handmaid’s Tale. I’ve got a couple spare rooms in one of my out-buildings.

    • Agree: Couch Scientist
  73. Dtbb says:

    The future for larks?

  74. JWO says:
    @SFG

    But now it’s the left that’s all safe-space-y and equating being nasty to someone with violence. What happened?

    Because the left got co-opted by the Jews, a people known for their oversensitivity, unscrupulousness and proclivity for the extremes, be it love of money/power, lust, ostentatiousness, gluttony or sexual perversion. Twisted logic like “righting historical wrongs” is used to justify all manners of misdeed. Reason is replaced by narratives concocted to obfuscate, mislead and protect the special groups.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  75. @dearieme

    Travel to Salzburg and look around the Friedhof (cemetery) of St Peter’s Abbey. One of the delightfully curlicued crosses proclaims the resting place of precisely a Prof Dr Dr Dr so-and-so.

    I promise!

    • Replies: @Stogumber
  76. Anon7 says:

    OT: Please help us, Mr. President!

    The total number of federal arrests of Mexican nationals living in the United States now exceeds the total number of federal arrests of American citizens, federal data reveals.

    A new report by the Department of Justice (DOJ) finds that in 2018, the number of Mexican nationals arrested for federal crimes exceeded the number of American citizens who were arrested for federal crimes by about 8,000 arrests.

    Likewise, the number of federal arrests of non-U.S. citizens is nearly double the arrests of Americans. In 2018, law enforcement officials arrested more than 125,000 non-U.S. citizens for federal crimes — a 234 percent increase since 1998.

    Central Americans in the U.S. have had the largest increase in federal arrests over the last two decades. In 1998, only about 1,200 Central Americans were arrested for federal crimes. Fast-forward to 2018, when nearly 40,000 Central Americans were arrested for federal crimes. This indicates an increase in federal arrests of more than 3,300 percent over the last 20 years.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/23/doj-feds-arrested-more-mexican-nationals-than-americans-in-2018doj-federal-arrests-of-mexicans-exceed-americans/

    • Replies: @bomag
  77. SFG says:
    @dearieme

    I’ve seen ‘Prof. Dr.’ as a drop-down option on German flights.

    ‘Berndt das Brot’ (a German children’s show about a depressed loaf of bread) has a ‘Dr. Dr.’, but that’s a joke.

    The Germans love their academic titles.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  78. @Buzz Mohawk

    The guy who lent me the Office Space tape was a co-worker at a company I had just joined.

    By the time I left there, I was reading Dilbert comics and wishing I could work in such a wonderful place.

  79. @SFG

    In Germany “Doctor” and/or “Professor” actually becomes part of your legal surname. I have seen that on German passports.

    If you change your surname in Germany, you lose the “Doctor” as well. A lot of German doctoral students will get married right before defending their dissertation, so they can take their husband’s last names without losing their Doctor. I really feel sorry for the ones who later get divorced. They can NOT get their maiden name back, nor the name of a later husband, without losing Doctor. Which is why most female doctoral candidates will keep their birth surname even if they marry before earning their Doctor

    • Replies: @anon
  80. anon[338] • Disclaimer says:

    and here’s a potential data point for Steve’s investigations of occupational interests versus sexual orientation:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7390353/NASA-investigates-claims-astronaut-accessed-spouses-bank-account-space.html

  81. @frank d niles

    Most of WW2 was planned at night. Stalin, Churchill, and to a lesser degree Hitler were all night owls. Not sure about Roosevelt.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  82. @Stogumber

    Yes, Speikeroog University does not exist, but the island of Speikeroog does, which just adds to the fun.

  83. If “conservatives” are so conscientious and disciplined, then why aren’t conservatives richer and more politically powerful than liberals? And why do rich people (who tend to be more conscientious than poor people) tend to be more liberal on social issues like immigration and abortion?

    I think these studies on conscientiousness among “liberals” and “conservatives” are really only measuring views on economic issues. People who are right-wing on economic issues are probably more conscientious than people who are left-wing on economic issues, and probably more likely to be larks. However, that tells us little about the traits of social conservatives and social liberals.

    It may well be that social conservatives and social liberals are pretty similar on levels of conscientiousness, while right-wing liberals have higher levels of conscientiousness than social conservatives. This would help to explain the social and economic dominance of liberalism over conservatism.

  84. M_Young says:

    Black separatist ashram.

    • Replies: @bomag
  85. steve, please do a topic on this insane story. a new contender for the most 2019 story of 2019.

    “Astronaut Anne McClain was accused of accessing her estranged wife Summer Worden’s bank account while she was in space.”

    wait, what?

    so i guess, who’s egg was it?

    best comment from the comments section:

    “If this is the best NASA can do for astronauts, it’s time to shut down the agency.”

    and, humorously, from just one month ago, a discussion with actual NASA guys past and present, in which they implicate the social change in America, not the change in technology, as the thing that will probably make it impossible.

    Could the Apollo 11 moon landing be duplicated today? ‘Lots of luck with that’

  86. @El Dato

    I didn’t even see Steve’s typo when I copied it for an earlier post, which is just as well, because I would have translated it as Coat Ash.

  87. dr kill says:
    @El Dato

    This is so sad. What’s with astronauts? Remember the one that drove cross country wearing diapers? I think she was gonna kill somebody That was banging her love interest, Another astronaut of course. Just think of the stupid shit we will hear about the new Space Corps.

  88. “I don’t think Dagobert D. Mantelasche is a real person, but I could be wrong.”

    Oh, he’s very real. Southerners pronounce his first name “Daggaberda”. You simply must get out more.

  89. sayless says:
    @Corvinus

    “fear fuels conservative viewpoints”. And, we have hyperactive right amygdalas.

    But mebbe there’s a corresponding brain structure imbalance in liberals and progressives: Not able to see the iceberg ahead? Can’t process threat? Infantile overconfidence in the given order and security of one’s life?

    Why can’t the frog feel the water heat up till lethality?

    Amygdala Deficit Disorder!

  90. @Corvinus

    So, what are YOU, Mr. Sailer? An owl or a lark?

    Come on! For an avian you are ill-informed.

    Everyone else here knows Steve is an Owl:

    And he’s not alone:

    https://csnbbs.com/thread-723966-post-11686991.html

    • LOL: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  91. Professor Dr. Dr. Dr. Dagobert D. Manteltasche is Professor of Hypothetical Theory at the Central Institute for Questions and Answers, Spiekeroog University.

    Spiekeroog suggests Swift’s Laputa has alit:

    You can get a degree in kiting:

    KITECOLLEGE GERMANY SPIEKEROOG

  92. Corvinus says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    “Everyone else here knows Steve is an Owl”

    It’s not about indoctrination mills, ones that foster diversity and an intellectual environment. It’s about how one views the world of politics from a particular lens. Such philosophical endeavors are way beyond your understanding.

  93. anon[181] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    Yes, my understanding of German custom is that traditionally, one became a Dr., but (unlike the US) you had to do a lot more to be a “Prof.” so that was added on as Prof. Dr.; in the good old days, ladies were hausfraus, but if they married at Prof. Dr. they became Frau Prof. Dr. Someone, I think Mark Twain, produced the longest German word, which meant something like Mrs. Director of the Steamship Lines or whatever, the length being augmented by the Frau.

  94. How about a lark/owl map of California?

    • Replies: @Jimi
  95. 1. What about the increasing numbers of people who work 2 to 10, or even, third shift. Guessing the academics are not even aware of this.

    2. There really is something to chronotypes. Some people honestly prefer inconsistent work schedules (like retail/service). It is more lindy than 9-5, give em that

  96. Altai says:

    Somewhat related, the very calm, reserved and detached reporting of a scientific paper by a blue check ‘science writer’ on a topic she doesn’t at all take personally.

    Sailer’s second law of female journalism: The most heartfelt articles by Gen Y/Z female journalists tend to be demands that social values be overturned in order that, Come the Revolution, the journalist herself will be considered more mentally stable and that any anxiety or depression she does have due to the atomisation and unravelling of society (Which she will also constantly complain about) are unrelated to her and her predecessors championing this and lifestyles which amplify the effects, like her career and male-alienating radical feminism and general alienation from mass immigration.

  97. Early to bed and early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise.

    Benjamin Franklin published this in his Poor Richard’s Almanack. It was not original to him.

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Poor_Richard%27s_Almanack

    If you can control your own schedule the perfect time to wake up and get out of your bed is sunrise. In my zip code tomorrow that is 6:31 A. M. and my plan although I miss it more days than I hit it.

    Ralph Vaughnan Williams’ Lark Ascending is gorgeous but it is not upbeat. He wrote it for the WWI dead.

  98. Duke84 says:
    @frank d niles

    So were Stalin and Churchill.

  99. Jimi says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Joshua Tree is not boring landscape!

  100. Stogumber says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    As an old-fashioned German I like our approach to the Prof. and Dr. problem. You do a lot of work in order to get a Dr. and why not show off with it? And in order to get three different Dr. titles you have to study in three different faculties. (We just had the case of a medico who was retired and then wrote a second doctoral dissertation in Medicine, but when they found out about that they took the second Dr. away.)
    As for the problem with women who lose the Dr. when changing their name: I never have heard about that and I am certain that Paleo-Liberal is wrong. After 1918, women were generally accepted at universities, and as the Dr. was at that time the normal finishment of your studies, the legal problem must have been solved at that time.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  101. Anoj says:

    Google Books has at least one of the papers included in a Political Science Humor and Wit collection. There’s a book for everything.

  102. Lagertha says:

    Buying Greenland is brilliant – and, anyone that does not understand this, is a dumbass! But, I am not a dumbass American!

  103. Dagobert sounds like it should be the Italian version of Dilbert.

    In actuality Dagobert is Scrooge McDuck’s name is German. Really.

  104. @Prof. Woland

    It was still daylight over here.

  105. Anon[233] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    Steve trying to head off a rash of comments by “Anon” commenters like

    Psychology Twitter thinks Mantelasche isn’t a real person. I won’t go into the details but there are several tells.

    LOL! Thanks for remembering my previous comment. I was hoping someone would try to locate “paleoanthropologist Twitter” and report back that there was no such concensus.

  106. @prime noticer

    so i guess, who’s egg was it?

    I assume I’m related to Ms Worden, as that relatively uncommon name is in my ancestry. But that doesn’t mean I’m related to this boy.

    This is a small mystery for me, but to him, the mystery is half his identity.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  107. bomag says:
    @Anon7

    One weakness in Ron Unz’s piece on Hispanic crime rates was that he used state incarceration rates and presumed federal incarceration rates would be similar; in practice, the feds lock up a lot more Hispanics.

  108. Dagobert D. Manteltasche = German blotched data set.

  109. @SFG

    But can you equate 18th century nationalists with modern nationalists and conservatism?

    Maybe if the typical Steve Sailer reader had been an 18th century Germanic he would have seen German nationalists as something akin to modern EU fanatics and globalists. Maybe he would have wanted to keep the Holy Roman Empire alive, with its patchwork of ancient and varied cultures and loyalties. Maybe he would have seen nationalism as a a levelling-down and ironing-out of interesting, time honoured, local political forms and identities, which could have dangerous and unforseen consequences down the road.

    • Replies: @SFG
  110. BenKenobi says:
    @prime noticer

    There would be White Americans on Mars right now if it weren’t for Hart-Celler.

    • Replies: @Charon
  111. Anoj says:
    @anon

    Print and internet media jobs usually have flexible hours. The new owner of the Gawker titles caused a revolt when he tried to institute 9:00 to 5:00 hours: Arriving between those hours, being present at some point during those hours, not working between those hours. I though it was some sort of misprint when I read that. He also demanded casual business attire, which didn’t go down well. Neither did a “Stick to Sports” order to the Deadspin editor. All this was documented in his own publications by his insubordinate employees.

    At one point you couldn’t fire these people since there would be a de facto boycott by writers. But today there are so many middle aged out of work journalists and married with kids guys outside of New York who are really good and can report out stories rather than just do a hot take that I think he should fire everyone and start fresh.

  112. Anonymous[182] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Alarmist

    My father swore that in army boot camp a fellow draftee was named Sargent Major. This would have been circa 1959. Apparently the guy got out of boot camp and was discharged-he really didn’t want to be there in the first place- because the brass realized the awkwardness of the whole thing.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  113. Anonymous[182] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    There was an Apollo era astronaut named Worden as well.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  114. @Unladen Swallow

    His father was born in England, not Scotland, but was indeed a math professor, much like the Unabomber.

  115. David says:
    @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    the only contributing factor to special advantage in a multiple regression model is genetics

    Did somebody say straw man?

    Nature/nurture.

  116. Charon says:
    @BenKenobi

    That sets up a really big disconnect of the “daily struggle” variety for our ruling elite.

    To think that they could almost be exiling whiteness to an entirely separate planet by now! But then who would they blame for everything.

  117. Charon says:
    @prime noticer

    Personally I’m glad to know that 1) our astronauts can do their online banking from high orbit and 2) alphabet-type persons can drag their endless dramas wherever they go, courtesy of the U.S. taxpayer. Real glad.

  118. jon says:
    @frank d niles

    Hitler did lots of meth. That’s pretty much all you need to know about him.

    • Replies: @jim jones
  119. HA says:
    @ricpic

    “Hitler was a hippie.”

    He was an artist, after all. Representational painters like the young Hitler are likely more conservative than, say, Picasso or Pollack (at least that’s my guess), but overall, artists in general are more likely to stay up late and sleep in than, say, engineers (apart from the ones who write code for a living).

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  120. @The Alarmist

    Spiekeroog is basically a large sand dune in the Ostfriesien islands with a permanent population of about 800. No university there nor would one expect there to be. This piece is obvious satire, a la Sokal, very well done and deserving of reprinting in many learned journals.

  121. @Anonymous

    There was an Apollo era astronaut named Worden as well.

    And the captain of the USS Monitor, also a (posthumous) victim of crime:

    https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/stories/2004/january/sword_011304

  122. Thea says:
    @El Dato

    Intelligence officer? Oh boy, We are in it so deep.

  123. @Corvinus

    Such philosophical endeavors are way beyond your understanding.

    So says the village idiot.

  124. Corvinus says:
    @bomag

    “So conservatives have larger brains than liberals. Well, if you insist.”

    You mean conservatives have a larger PART of the brain called the amygdala. The research indicates that conservatives tend to experience more than liberals “an amygdala hijack”, which is a person’s emotional response that is immediate, overwhelming, and out of measure with the actual stimulus because it has triggered a much more significant emotional threat.

    “Conservatives: more careful and alert to threats.”

    Not according to the research. When threatened, they become emotional, as evident by you desperately trying to change the narrative. You be mad, bro.

    “For that matter, libs are the ones found agitating for safe spaces…”

    You mean a subset of liberals.

    “regulation; safety nets; etc., bravely spending other peoples money and social capital on various boondoggles.”

    I didn’t realize such laws that attempt to reign in the machinations of (Jew) global capitalists was considered a “boondoggle”.

    • LOL: bomag
  125. MEH 0910 says:

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  126. MEH 0910 says:
    @MEH 0910

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  127. @Anonymous

    My father swore that in army boot camp a fellow draftee was named Sargent Major.

    One Coast Guard instructor told us of an instructor of his, a Petty Officer F. Ranger, who kept his first name close to his chest.

    Turns out it was Forrest.

  128. @prime noticer

    He is overseeing a plan to return to the moon by 2024 and put a female astronaut on its south pole to investigate frozen water there.

    Either of these two would be a prime candidate. (Oh, you mean bring them back… Never mind.)

    There would be White Americans on Mars right now if it weren’t for Hart-Celler.
    –BenKenobi

    There are plenty of white Americans I would love to see on Mars right now. Most of today’s Harts and Cellers, for example.

  129. bomag says:
    @alt right moderate

    If “conservatives” are so conscientious and disciplined, then why aren’t conservatives richer and more politically powerful than liberals?

    Wealth and political power at the higher levels has a component of unscrupulousness.

    E.g., the Amish and such aren’t particularly wealthy or politically powerful.

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
  130. bomag says:
    @M_Young

    “Can I touch your hair?” LOL

    “What’s the difference between you and white separatists?” “It’s not about them, it’s about us.” LOL

    I can appreciate the honest sentiment that they want a segregated world.

  131. SFG says:
    @al gore rhythms

    That’s a good point. Over hundreds of years the sides don’t have all that much in common with their progenitors.

  132. @Diversity is Great!

    Asked whether this would include the United States, Macron said: “That is the real question, we will see, I will put pressure.”

    The important question is whether it will include humans. I think we all know the answer.

  133. @bomag

    So conservatives have larger brains than liberals. Well, if you insist.

    Conservatives: more careful and alert to threats. Doesn’t necessarily correlate with fear, but the Narrative must be fed.

    Exactly. The “fear” narrative is total horseshit to pretend the harm they’re causing us is all in our head.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  134. @eah

    That’s who I’m voting for in 2019… October will be the date that Trudeau (hopefully) loses.

  135. @The Alarmist

    Specializes in asparagus dishes, no doubt.

  136. J.Ross says:
    @HA

    Hitler was a hippie, but then his cousin committed suicide while he and his friends were Bohemianing, and it persuaded him that decadence isn’t cost-free, so he ran one hundred per cent in the opposite direction. The analog such as it is would be David Horowitz.

  137. J.Ross says:
    @ben tillman

    I met a kid talking about “the culture of fear” regarding Zimmerman, and I was able to politely and not too angrily point out that Zimmerman was getting his head bashed in after several houses in his neighborhood had been broken into, and the kid dropped it nicely. A few months later I got him into Roger Scruton.

  138. Badonian says:
    @frank d niles

    On Top
    of that he was a vegetarian.

    Yellow-Leggings

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  139. @Stogumber

    I like it to. I wasn’t laughing at it, except in an appreciative way.

    I also believe that German doctorates are the real thing, and that if you manage three then you deserve all possible recognition.

    I wonder if Paleo-Liberal wasn’t referring to the “Frau Doktor” usage; that is the wife of a Herr Doktor, a sort of courtesy title. This she would surely loose if she remarried.

  140. @Corvinus

    Knotters are way less dangerous than simplifiers. Simplifiers on both the left and right are responsible for most of the world’s most famous atrocities. Simplifiers are more ideological by nature. There also those who are neither. A lot of financial types probably don’t care either way about the nature of the world, they just want to get ahead. And pretty much everyone with an IQ below 90 lacks the self awareness necessary to ruminate over the world.

    As for larks vs owls, I would guess most “great” historical personalities were owls.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  141. @El Dato

    Anytime we bring women into what should be strictly a man’s world there is trouble.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  142. scrivener3 says: • Website
    @alt right moderate

    Nobody is going to demonstrate, agitate, protest, organize, run social media campaigns, lie for political gain, betray their integrity for political gain, associate with scoundrels for political gain, all so that each person can keep what they rightfully earn and live their own lives as they see fit – where is the percentage in that? They are better off directing their energies to earning more in legitimate business and improving their lives by personal responsible choices

    On the other hand gaining political control for leftist policies like redistribution, micro-managing business which you do not own, directing the flows of other’s investment capital, controlling who others are free to associate with, being able to grant favors and dispensations to your cronies, etc. is a very lucrative pastime, worth great effort and time. Indeed it is worth 24/7 effort and associating with some ugly people who happen to forward your agenda (“no enemies on the left”).

    Conservatives gain nothing by controlling the House. For 60 years their stated policy was to cut government spending and balance the budget -where’s the percentage in that, if successful? Liberals stated policy was to borrow and spend on their supporters – jackpot.

  143. @anon

    I would prefer replacing 9-5 with 8-4 or 8 to 3:30 (I have no problem with only taking a half hour for lunch). Also, Daylight Savings Time must be annihilated.

    • Agree: Corn
  144. @Charles Pewitt

    Theresa Russell also has fine cheekbones and an elegant jawline.

    I have never found Ms. Russell beautiful exactly, but she definitely possesses a certain feline allure. I found her to be the most interesting thing in Bill Murray’s so-so “The Razor’s Edge”.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  145. Buzz Mohawk says: • Website

    In our global world of Love, it does not matter when you rise. There are always 24 hours to choose from.

    • Replies: @newrouter
  146. @JWO

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=5xVtRa2Rt5A

  147. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @ricpic

    He was a proto-hippie in a lot of ways, more like a “beatnik”. Think Bob Denver in the old Dobie Gillis show.

  148. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @JWO

    Because the left got co-opted by the Jews, a people known for their oversensitivity, unscrupulousness and proclivity for the extremes, be it love of money/power, lust, ostentatiousness, gluttony or sexual perversion. Twisted logic like “righting historical wrongs” is used to justify all manners of misdeed. Reason is replaced by narratives concocted to obfuscate, mislead and protect the special groups.

    I noticed this in my audiophile days. Characters like Harvey “Gizmo” Rosenberg and our local vacuum cleaner salesman “Dr. Lo-Mu” Jeff Medwin would build these insanely ridiculous amplifiers , often wildly swinging between utterly contradictory design principles. The more odd industrial junk they could incorporate into these things, the better. They would wax eloquently on the sonic differences which were not only unhearable by me, but provably unhearable by anyone else either.

    At the same time, other Jewish audiophiles like Peter Aczel and David Rich (the latter a legit EE prof at Hofstra) would spend a great deal of time and effort in attacking this nonsense when anyone else would simply ignore these guys and move on.

    That the ranks of audiophilia included many Jews and of those who weren’t a lot were homosexuals or possessing wildly odd personal beliefs was a tipoff of something, but as someone on the far nerd end of the nerd/salesman spectrum it took me a while to figure this out.

    This characteristic of Jews in the case of audio equipment is amusing but not socially destructive. But in the case of their controlling the mass media of news and entertainment, that is a different matter.

  149. newrouter says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Hillarity’s seance buddy.

  150. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Badonian

    The H-man would have gotten along with Big Little Miss Muffett just fine.

    https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=112747

    Chrissie Hynde – Nazi?
    Posted on February 13, 2017 by Luke Ford

    Comments at Steve Sailer:

    * While PeTA is not a ‘nazi’ organization, there are certainly parallels between the esoteric aspects of National Socialism and the animal rights movement, both of which reference the Vedic Hindu traditions and doctrines. Hitler himself was a vegetarian, and so were many other Party leaders.

    Savitri Devi was a Greek authoress who renamed herself after Hindu doctrines and was both an influence on and enthusiast of National Socialism, both during the NSDP years in Germany and in the latter day segments of WP/WN activity styling themselves “National Socialist”. Savitri was a delegate to the Cotswold conference of 1962, which codified in the postwar world what a Nazi was and what it was not, and a signatory.

    Reading interviews with Chrissie Hynde (a board member of PETA) where she discusses the Bhagavad Gita and her very emotional and intense commitment to vegetarianism, and her disdain for carnivorous humans (but not other carnivorous species) , she echoes what Devi said almost word for word. Hynde is not stupid, and I find it difficult to believe she is ignorant of Devi and her writings. No one has ever asked her about it, though.

    * Much as I dislike admitting it, lots of folks, including myself, are sufficiently okay with our crappy and corrupt representative governments and our secular consumer culture that Evola’s notions, such as I remember them, seem a fantasy.

    * Twentieth-century Traditionalist thinkers often came from a background of occultism or esotericism, especially from Mme. Blavatsky’s Theosophy, and from the fringes of Freemasonry. The esoteric aspect is shown in their emphasis on initiation. Probably the principal Traditionalist is René Guénon; more recent exponents include Ananda Coomaraswamy and Sayyed Hossein Nasr. Julius Evola is also a Traditionalist of this type. He had been a follower of Guénon, but came to differ from him on a number of points.

  151. jim jones says:
    @jon

    Hitler got as far as Stalingrad, respect to him for that:

  152. @bomag

    the Amish and such aren’t particularly wealthy or politically powerful.

    How do the Amish people purchase homes?

    Best Answer: i grew up with amish in pa lancaster area. first of all some do have credit cards. and some pay cash my family sould a old farm for over 300k and the amish paid cash for it.

    Financial secrets of the Amish…How to save $400,000, raise 14 children and buy a $1.3 million farm

    MarketWatch: The Amish didn’t have subprime mortgages, did they?

    Craker: No, they did not. I met this one farmer, Amos, near Bird-In-Hand, Pennsylvania. He had saved $400,000 over the course of 20 years while raising 14 children and renting a farm for around $1,800 a month. He was about ready to put down $400,000 on a down payment on his own $1.3 million farm. They’re big on big down payments and being in as little debt as possible.

    Tobacco In Amish Country

  153. @alt right moderate

    why aren’t conservatives richer and more politically powerful than liberals?

    This being written while Donald Trump is president.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  154. @MEH 0910

    But especially in this moment, we need to call out our fellow conservatives when they cross the racist line.

    Better yet, W. Bradford Wilcox, you need to STFU.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  155. Corvinus says:
    @S. Anonyia

    “Simplifiers on both the left and right are responsible for most of the world’s most famous atrocities.”

    Sources?

    “Simplifiers are more ideological by nature.”

    Sources?

    “And pretty much everyone with an IQ below 90 lacks the self awareness necessary to ruminate over the world.”

    What evidence do you have that intelligence highly correlates with self-awareness? And, when you say “pretty much everyone”, what numbers are we presenting here? How do you definitively know?

    “As for larks vs owls, I would guess most “great” historical personalities were owls.”

    Guess, huh. So you really don’t know…

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
  156. Corvinus says:
    @Simply Simon

    “Anytime we bring women into what should be strictly a man’s world there is trouble.”

    That would be Fake News.

  157. J.Ross says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Pournelle’s Law. Conservatives are at work being adults all day. Lefties, whether from wealth or from youth, have the time to be lefties, and they have time for machines and activism and driving a vanful of people from polling station to polling station. Also leftism practically is a tool for the ultra rich to control the poor and attack the middle class, so there is an inherent connection, whereas what conservatives have to offer the wealthy is generally a negative: restricting government activity in various spheres.

  158. @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    The point of 10000 hours is: the 8th grader has within her agency to work twice as hard and test with the top 10% of 10th graders.

    This kind of “free will” agency is illusory, but that’s beside the point. The point is that your claim is incorrect for another reason. She can’t control how much other people work, which means she does not have the “agency” to control whether she outworks others.

    Meanwhile, no one said that genetics didn’t play a factor either – it’s just that we didn’t stop thinking.

    Of course, genetics didn’t “play a factor”. Things play roles or parts.

    Paradoxically – this practice, of practicing what you are not now good at, at “sucking before you are awesome”, is one I’m guessing (I, ahhh, “noticed”) is well understood by the East-Anglian/Danish side of the Mason-Dixon line but not acknowledged elsewhere – so it’s kind of a “secret” of “European” success.

    There is no “East-Anglian/Danish side of the Mason-Dixon line”.

  159. @alt right moderate

    If “conservatives” are so conscientious and disciplined, then why aren’t conservatives richer and more politically powerful than liberals?

    http://www.unz.com/book/kevin_macdonald__the-culture-of-critique/

    The Left has spent more than a century making sure that conservatives are (1) pathologized and indoctrinated/intimidated into moving Left and (2) forbidden to organize.

    The Left’s virtually monopoly on the apparatus of public opinion formation for the last seven decades ensures that the Left gets what it wants in these regards.

  160. @Harry Baldwin

    How does this clown imagine he is “conservative”? What a pitiful extended phenotype he is!

  161. @Laurence Whelk

    She looks naughty. In a good way.

  162. dfordoom says: • Website
    @SFG

    I’m the only immigration-restrictionist atheist I know who thinks religion is generally good for society, at least in the West, and the welfare state is too small

    That’s not quite true. There are at least two of us!

  163. dfordoom says: • Website
    @ricpic

    In this and in every other respect Hitler was a hippie.

    Pretty much. Offhand I can’t think of any hippie boxes that Hitler didn’t tick. The Nazis and their supporters in general were very hippie. Leni Riefenstahl went from being a Nazi propagandist to being a Greenpeace activist without having to change any of her essential beliefs.

  164. Sparkon says:

    Offhand I can’t think of any hippie boxes that Hitler didn’t tick.

    Didn’t dance, didn’t wear paisley, wasn’t anti-war.

    That should give me a chance to play another song with a nifty segue back to 1961 for a tune that was #1 for seven straight weeks on Billboards Hot 100, and the number one song for the entire year of 1961

    “Tossin’ and Turnin’” by Bobby Lewis

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