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Robert Conquest’s first law is:

Everyone is conservative about what he knows best.

This probably best explains the dichotomy between Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s ruthless race realism in hiring her own law clerks (apparently, she only hired one black out of about 150 hires over her 40 years as a judge) versus her dissent in the famous Ricci case that if on a firefighter’s promotion test black don’t score well, that is prima facie evidence of disparate impact discrimination (since, apparently, everybody knows there’s no point in requiring fire captains to be book smart about fighting fires. They just need to be strong and brave and have “command presence.”)

In 2009’s Ricci Reverse Racism case in which fireman Frank Ricci sued New Haven’s mayor for tearing up results of the FD promotion exam because the top scores were earned by 13 whites, 2 Latinos and 0 blacks, RBG’s dissent said ratio was prima facie evidence of discrimination.

Ironically, Ruth Bader Ginsburg didn’t seem to think the logic of the 1972 Griggs disparate impact discrimination ruling or her dissent in Ricci applied to her personally:

Of the ~150 law clerks she hired over 40 years as a judge, only one was black.

In the 2009 Ricci case, Ruth Bader Ginsburg saw fire captain jobs as appropriate for dumb guys with strong backs and confident manners, so more blacks should have those jobs. But in her own hiring of law clerks, IQ and work ethic were crucial, so 0.6% of her clerks were black.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg was a human biodiversity race realist about hiring for the kind of jobs she knew best — law clerks (for which she only hired 1 black out of ~150). But her IQ snobbery meant she underrated cognitive demands of jobs like fire captain, some of which have become vastly more technical over Ginsburg’s lifetime.

 
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  1. How many of RBG’s clerks were Jewish?

    • Replies: @Mike P.
    @newrouter

    Probably more than one.

    , @Mr McKenna
    @newrouter

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/as-of-2018-the-late-ruth-bader-ginsburg-had-hired-only-one-b/#comment-4172726

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/as-of-2018-the-late-ruth-bader-ginsburg-had-hired-only-one-b/#comment-4172556

    A couple of several stabs at the question which you may find by searching the comments on this blog. Suffice to say it's a bit over 2%. The consensus estimate lands around 35-40% but it's likely an undercount because names often lead to undercounting. And of course we're not supposed to notice much less count, or we lose our jobs and our homes.

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @newrouter

    Jews are just white people. Shut up and eat your shiksa.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

  2. Anonymous[259] • Disclaimer says:

    Meanwhile dastardly villain Marco Rubio (Bush family operative) allied with Jared is pushing for the shaky Cuban lady scotus contender Lagoa to get the open scotus seat.

    Welp. Cernovich says the moderate Lagoa will be announced Tuesday.

    If true it’s just further confirmation that

    JARED KUSHNER HAS “F*** THE BASE” TATTOOED ON HIS EYELIDS

    Down with the Kushnerists!

    God help the Deplorables!

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @Anonymous

    Trump needs to win Florida, and it wouldn’t hurt him with him the Hispanic vote. Not sure it would really help him much, either.

    Barrett looks far more appealing on at least a superficial level. She’s attractive, but also a mother of seven, and straight from the Heartland. Overall Trump would probably secure more votes in more places with Barrett. Trying to stop her appointment, probably with the now standard Leftist attempts at character assassination, would also cost the Democrats a lot of votes with white women, and even other demos.

    Replies: @Abe, @MarkinLA, @Stan Adams

    , @Anon
    @Anonymous

    Thinking is too tactical here. Removing any Ivy older Wasp/Catholic or any Jew from the bench is combinatorially a step forward for the Court.

    If Cuban lady gets Trump re-elected then that is 1-2 more vacancies. Eventually the odds outweigh spergy Goursuch’s and Boomer Robert’s oddball rulings. They are spineless, so they will vote with majority anyway.

    Replies: @ATBOTL

    , @epebble
    @Anonymous

    If this happens, it will be interesting to watch if the Democrats put up token grumble and wink-wink nod-nod go with the confirmation or go full nuclear trying take revenge on McConnel's 2016 Garland (in)action. Also, Dems don't have to feel so butthurt about that anyway since Gorsuch has become a loose cannon a la Roberts. So, the question is, do they know how to lose a battle to win a war or become just emotional and pull their hair.

    Replies: @Jack d, @Redman

    , @Joseph Doaks
    @Anonymous

    So the vacant RGB seat has become the "woman's seat"? This is identity politics straight out of the Democrat playbook. When will Republicans learn that you get no points with them for following their playbook---they still hate you.

    Dear Mr. Trump, pandering is a sigh of weakness!

    Replies: @William Badwhite, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    , @dvorak
    @Anonymous


    the shaky Cuban lady scotus contender Lagoa to get the open scotus seat
     
    Is she Catholic or evangelical?

    At least she's not mainline Protestant like Gorsuch. Took him about two seconds as a Trump appointee until he decided "Black Trans Lives Matter!"
  3. Wow, is it really true that RBG only picked one black person out of ~150 people she hired?

    No wonder she was notorious.

    By the way, I have heard that she had the same hiring practice for interns and secretaries, at least during her time on the US Court of Appeals in DC. She hired zero black interns and zero black secretaries.

    Are there any motivated young black interns or experienced black secretaries in DC?

    There must not be any at all!

    Otherwise, I just can’t figure this out.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @wren


    Wow, is it really true that RBG only picked one black person out of ~150 people she hired?
     
    And per Steve's prior profile on the guy he appears to be about 37.5% black. So, rounding off, it would be fair to say RBG hired zero blacks.
  4. The woman is a prime example of everything that is wrong with SCOTUS in particular and liberals in general.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna, Joseph Doaks, TWS
    • Replies: @Gianni in Guernsey
    @Jim Don Bob

    It is why Oprah Winfrey said they needed to die.

    , @David In TN
    @Jim Don Bob

    It's the exact same principle well off liberals used for school busing. They would be all for white working class kids being bussed, while sending their own children to virtually all white private schools.

    Thirty years ago I knew a man who was from Boston. This was after the 1988 election in which Brookline liberal Mike Dukakis went down to defeat despite a 15-point lead after the convention. The Bush 41 team opened up on Willie Horton, ACLU, etc.

    I asked my friend from Boston why the Brookline-Massachusetts liberals were so hypocritical. He replied, "They are liberal until it touches them."

    The above phrase describes RBG.

    Replies: @Clyde

  5. Ms. Ginsburg knew nothing of fire and very little of the men who meant to quench it. But of course, she graduated Law at _____, so she understood the operation of all.

    • Agree: TWS
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Neil Templeton


    Ms. Ginsburg knew nothing of fire and very little of the men who meant to quench it. But of course, she graduated Law at _____, so she understood the operation of all.
     
    She attended two Ivy League rivals of Yale. Why would she care if New Haven burned down?

    The first 28 Justices did not attend a law school at all, and the first 31 had no law degree. (Some studied law as undergraduates, e.g., James Wilson at St Andrew's. Author James A Michener would be called on to portray him there in the annual student pageant.)

    That first alum (not grad) was Levi Woodbury, who wrote the opinion that shot down future Chief Justice Salmon P Chase's arguments in Jones v. Van Zandt (1847), a precursor to Dred Scott. Woodbury and Chase were native New Hampshiremen.

    The last appointed to the Court with no law school-- or any tertiary education at all, apparently-- was James F Byrnes of South Carolina. He was quite the character, but then so is almost every Palmetto politician, right?

    Woodbury, Chase, and Byrnes are the only three individuals in history to serve as governors and in all three branches of the federal government.

  6. Verified Hate

    • Replies: @Stebbing Heuer
    @216

    'White supremacist'

    Memo to white Americans: if you don't start standing up for each other, the left are going to enslave and kill you.

    Replies: @Realist, @216

    , @vinteuil
    @216

    It's not enough for these vile parasites that this poor guy who made the mistake of thinking he was allowed to defend himself and his property against murderous attackers is dead, by his own hand.

    No. They wanted their show trial. They wanted him to abase himself before them - to confess his guilt and to proclaim his love for Big Black Brother - before they killed him.

    , @vinteuil
    @216

    Oh, and...this cousin of his belongs in the lowest circle of Hell, embedded forever in the ice that can never melt, and that burns like fire:

    https://youtu.be/ElhndNnlBdk

    Replies: @Clyde

  7. That’s an extremely charitable explanation of her mindset

    More likely that she knew full well, she just didn’t care

  8. But Ginsburg’s attitude is commonplace among members of the legal profession in general. Lawyers who have to attend college, graduate from law school, and pass a bar exam – passing several hundred other tests on the way to that bar exam – sue businesses left and right when those businesses require applicants to pass tests in order to qualify for a job, or when those tests are passed at different rates by those or different races. How very condescending Ginsburg and so many of her fellow lawyers are to assume her profession requires intelligent employees but not firefighting or other blue collar careers. It’s an attitude that has and will continue to cost this country dearly. Most of our competitors in Asia don’t have to put up with this shit.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    @Wilkey

    Imagine if during oral arguments over Ricci the lawyer brought up Ginsburg's hiring history.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Wilkey


    How very condescending Ginsburg and so many of her fellow lawyers are to assume her profession requires intelligent employees but not firefighting or other blue collar careers. It’s an attitude that has and will continue to cost this country dearly. Most of our competitors in Asia don’t have to put up with this shit.
     
    Indeed. Our ruling classes have no understanding nor appreciation of manual labor, even skilled labor. The people who go into trades are just meatsticks to them - just interchangeable cogs in an economic machine. They don't understand that a smart electrician is better than a dumb electrician, that an experienced plumber is better than an inexperience plumber. That a smart/experienced anything is better than a dumb/inexperienced anything.
    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Wilkey

    The 1971 Duke Power v. Griggs case and the doctrine of "disparate impact" that it created effectively banned the use of anything resembling an IQ test in hiring decisions. Thus, instead of using a cheap, efficient, and highly effective tool to select suitable candidates (as the military does), employers have had to rely on paper credentials like degrees and prior experience.

    Shutting out bright applicants who happen to be inexperienced and uncredentialed has undoubtedly done immense harm to the fairness and efficiency of the labor market. The resources wasted over the decades in piling up pointless degrees must be astronomical.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @epochehusserl

    , @AnotherDad
    @Wilkey


    But Ginsburg’s attitude is commonplace among members of the legal profession in general. Lawyers who have to attend college, graduate from law school, and pass a bar exam – passing several hundred other tests on the way to that bar exam – sue businesses left and right when those businesses require applicants to pass tests in order to qualify for a job, or when those tests are passed at different rates by those or different races. How very condescending Ginsburg and so many of her fellow lawyers are to assume her profession requires intelligent employees but not firefighting or other blue collar careers. It’s an attitude that has and will continue to cost this country dearly. Most of our competitors in Asia don’t have to put up with this shit.
     
    Arrogance.

    That's the key word. Amazingly the arrogance of people who know little and have done nothing.

    We saw that same arrogance in spades in Griggs: Lawyering, oh yes, there intelligence matters.
    But why do you need any intelligence, for something trivial like operating a power plant?

    In actuality almost the reverse is often true. There are very complicated areas of law--ex. tax law--where i'd be way out of my depth. (Congress has larded up the tax code, and it takes years of study and practice to know in the ins and outs.) But deciding Constitutional questions is pretty straightforward. The Constitution is short, straightforward and it's usually quite obvious where the relevant question is supposed to be decided.

    Yet the Supremes continually get those questions wrong. And often justify their getting wrong with pompous airy nonsense. Sometime just laughably bad nonsense (Roe). Because in their arrogance, they imagine themselves to be brilliant arbiters of what should be--just oh so special philosopher kings that republican governance must be tossed aside in favor of their "wisdom".

    Arrogance.
  9. Similarly, RBG shamed her fellow Justices into going her way on a Fourth Amendment case involving a 13-year-old girl by telling them “they have never been a 13-year-old girl,” the implication being that since she had been, she knew it best was therefore more qualified to decide the case.

    Of course, by that logic, she was not qualified to decide on firefighters’, policemen’s, businessmen’s, or any of the other cases involving people unlike her and professions in which she had never been.

    But as always with RBG, the arc of her logic only bent one way: toward the liberal utopia. No Deplorables allowed.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @Almost Missouri


    Of course, by that logic, she was not qualified
     
    Not far off from Sonia's dictum about being a 'fat wise latina' or something like that. It's all identity politics nowadays, and you're allowed to play unless, well, you know.

    It's no longer about what you know, what you say, or what you do. It's all about what you are.

  10. Anon[777] • Disclaimer says:

    IOW, Ginsburg was a stereotypical Jew who vastly overestimated her own intelligence (linguistic, symbolic) over Goyum (spatial and general G).

    Isn’t this like the whole story of Jews in a nutshell? I’m sure at Masada, they were thinking, “These idiot Gentile brutes on the desert floor.” One massive Gentile ramp later, they weren’t thinking anything.

    The irony is that Ginsburg will be the reason Trump is re-elected. Too perfect. In the Pantheon of Stereotypical Jews, she is Athena.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anon

    The Jews weren't particularly known for their brilliance in antiquity. All the great minds were Greek.

    Christian elites in their lust for wealth and power have a way of creating unintended breeding experiments, such as breeding blacks to be big, dumb brutes with high fertility in order to serve as cheap labor for them. We all know how well that worked out. Another unintentional Christian created breeding experiment was to ban Jews from most occupations other than money lending and otherwise surviving by their wits.

    Most human mating is more or less random or driven by physical traits such as a preference for lighter hair and skin but not directed toward breeding smarter or dumber humans, so most human populations remain more or less level in intelligence. But we know from dog breeding (and other animals) that if you put a particular trait (including intelligence - there are smarter and dumber dog breeds too) under selection pressure you can achieve significant daylight between groups over relatively few generations and that is exactly what happened in the ghettos of Europe.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @res, @Kratoklastes

    , @al gore rhythms
    @Anon

    If Jews really do control the world, or at least exert more influence over it than any other ethnic/religious group, then don't they have quite good grounds to be cocky about their intelligence?

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

  11. The ratio is worse if you think about it. Judges choose politically like-minded clerks, and as blacks are basically 90-95% Democratic they would constitute 22%+ of Ginsburg’s potential clerk pool by politically-aligned demographics.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @Abe

    "The ratio is worse if you think about it. Judges choose politically like-minded clerks, and as blacks are basically 90-95% Democratic they would constitute 22%+ of Ginsburg’s potential clerk pool by politically-aligned demographics."

    At least one of Ginsburg's clerks, Benjamin J. Beaton (member of the Federalist Society and current Trump nominee to be a US district judge), appears to be a conservative.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  12. It’s ok. I am sure RBG’s hires were diverse (i.e. Jewish).

    • Replies: @Escher
    @as

    Sephardic, Ashkenazi, Mizrahi, halfies.
    That’s a ton of diversity right there.

    Replies: @Gordo

  13. It’s all variations of the “better schools” cliche at its essence.

    Fig leafs, shell games, pricing others out, redlining, straw men, and red herrings–in the end, people say one thing and do another. Mostly they say what they want other people to do. All underlying reasons for one’s own actions are justified under themes.

    Everyone. Every.One. Is a race realistic.

    • Replies: @Joseph Doaks
    @OscarWildeLoveChild

    I would go further and say that everyone is racist. It has been clearly demonstrated in young children's first reaction to obvious racial differences. But liberals are so brainwashed that they ignore their lying eyes and won't admit the truth even when they have been personally victimized.

    Liberals are racist when they carry Black Lives Matter signs. They're really saying, "I know you Blacks are dangerous, but look, I'm on your side. Please don't hurt me!"

  14. This probably best explains the dichotomy between Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s ruthless race realism in hiring her own law clerks … versus her dissent in the famous Ricci case that if on a firefighter’s promotion test black don’t score well, that is prima facie evidence of disparate impact discrimination

    Yeah, I mean, unless the old bat was just lying.

  15. Ruth Bader Ginsburg was a human biodiversity race realist about hiring for the kind of jobs she knew best…

    That seems, shall we just say, rather unlikely. More probably she just hired the people who had the qualifications she wanted and—unsurprisingly—they happened not to black.

    You can call this “being a human biodiversity race realist” if you want to, but you’re upping the arity of the concept in a self-serving manner.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Intelligent Dasein

    You're right. Race Realism is about acting on a statistical generalization. Hiring is one by one.

    Unless what Steve meant was that RBG wasn't troubled by her overall hiring stats because she was a realist about the distribution of talent in the population.

  16. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile dastardly villain Marco Rubio (Bush family operative) allied with Jared is pushing for the shaky Cuban lady scotus contender Lagoa to get the open scotus seat.

    Welp. Cernovich says the moderate Lagoa will be announced Tuesday.

    If true it's just further confirmation that

    JARED KUSHNER HAS "F*** THE BASE" TATTOOED ON HIS EYELIDS

    Down with the Kushnerists!

    God help the Deplorables!

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Anon, @epebble, @Joseph Doaks, @dvorak

    Trump needs to win Florida, and it wouldn’t hurt him with him the Hispanic vote. Not sure it would really help him much, either.

    Barrett looks far more appealing on at least a superficial level. She’s attractive, but also a mother of seven, and straight from the Heartland. Overall Trump would probably secure more votes in more places with Barrett. Trying to stop her appointment, probably with the now standard Leftist attempts at character assassination, would also cost the Democrats a lot of votes with white women, and even other demos.

    • Replies: @Abe
    @Wilkey


    Trying to stop her appointment, probably with the now standard Leftist attempts at character assassination
     
    25 women are being lined up right now to tearfully testify they were raped on broken glass by the entire Federalist Society.
    , @MarkinLA
    @Wilkey

    Two of those 7 are adoptions from Haiti. We don't need another Sandra Day O'Connor on the court.

    , @Stan Adams
    @Wilkey

    Define Hispanic.

    Trump already has the Cuban vote. Mexicans in California and Puerto Ricans in New York aren't going to vote for him because he wants to nominate a Miami-born Cuban woman to the Supreme Court.

    The other day I got into a conversation with a pro-Trump boomer and he started telling me about his younger Venezuelan wife. Her family fled the country after Chavez took power. Even with her first-hand knowledge of the joys of living in a socialist paradise, she's ardently pro-Biden. The lockdowns have wiped out her jewelry business and she blames Trump.

    Replies: @Redman, @Clyde

  17. If only the fire department was in Kiryas Joel, NY, then she would have sided with the majority.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  18. I suggest everyone read Amy Wax’s full article at the Claremont Review of Books. Wax is brilliant and would have made a much better Justice than RBG

  19. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Our Man In Little Havana John Cardillo is worried about the Rubio operation. Unfortunately the great Robert Barnes predicted it.

    This is bad. DiSantis was pretty much a nevertrumper. WTF there’s some kind of dirty deal going down in Dade!

    John Cardillo @johncardillo 41m @realDonaldTrump DO NOT give Rubio his SCOTUS pick. He’s an enemy. No one here in FL has a clue who Lagoa is. She has no record. She won’t make an ounce of electoral difference, but could be a massive regret on the court…

  20. Anon[777] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Meanwhile dastardly villain Marco Rubio (Bush family operative) allied with Jared is pushing for the shaky Cuban lady scotus contender Lagoa to get the open scotus seat.

    Welp. Cernovich says the moderate Lagoa will be announced Tuesday.

    If true it's just further confirmation that

    JARED KUSHNER HAS "F*** THE BASE" TATTOOED ON HIS EYELIDS

    Down with the Kushnerists!

    God help the Deplorables!

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Anon, @epebble, @Joseph Doaks, @dvorak

    Thinking is too tactical here. Removing any Ivy older Wasp/Catholic or any Jew from the bench is combinatorially a step forward for the Court.

    If Cuban lady gets Trump re-elected then that is 1-2 more vacancies. Eventually the odds outweigh spergy Goursuch’s and Boomer Robert’s oddball rulings. They are spineless, so they will vote with majority anyway.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
    @Anon

    You're thinking like a cuck. We do not want to give more power to Hispanics. We want more white Christians on the court. Where on earth do these cucks keep coming from? They pop up on every single thread here to argue that selling out is actually some kind of brilliant strategy.

    You would have thought that the last five years would have buried cuckservativsm, but it seems stronger than ever now. It's horrifying that so many commenters on dissident right websites still think like this.

    Does this clown really think that nominating a Hispanic to the court will get more Hispanics to vote for Trump? Most voters don't pay any attention to this kind of thing and the ones who do follow politics closely are all partisans whose votes will not change over it. The only effect this would have would be to make some alt-right voters who are sick of the Hispanic invasion stay home, and not only in Florida.

    The cucking never stops.

  21. @Abe
    The ratio is worse if you think about it. Judges choose politically like-minded clerks, and as blacks are basically 90-95% Democratic they would constitute 22%+ of Ginsburg’s potential clerk pool by politically-aligned demographics.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    “The ratio is worse if you think about it. Judges choose politically like-minded clerks, and as blacks are basically 90-95% Democratic they would constitute 22%+ of Ginsburg’s potential clerk pool by politically-aligned demographics.”

    At least one of Ginsburg’s clerks, Benjamin J. Beaton (member of the Federalist Society and current Trump nominee to be a US district judge), appears to be a conservative.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @James B. Shearer

    Ginsburg's one black clerk, Paul Watford, is a Democratic-aligned moderate who had clerked for the Republican judge Alex Kozinski.

    Replies: @Kronos, @res

  22. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile dastardly villain Marco Rubio (Bush family operative) allied with Jared is pushing for the shaky Cuban lady scotus contender Lagoa to get the open scotus seat.

    Welp. Cernovich says the moderate Lagoa will be announced Tuesday.

    If true it's just further confirmation that

    JARED KUSHNER HAS "F*** THE BASE" TATTOOED ON HIS EYELIDS

    Down with the Kushnerists!

    God help the Deplorables!

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Anon, @epebble, @Joseph Doaks, @dvorak

    If this happens, it will be interesting to watch if the Democrats put up token grumble and wink-wink nod-nod go with the confirmation or go full nuclear trying take revenge on McConnel’s 2016 Garland (in)action. Also, Dems don’t have to feel so butthurt about that anyway since Gorsuch has become a loose cannon a la Roberts. So, the question is, do they know how to lose a battle to win a war or become just emotional and pull their hair.

    • Replies: @Jack d
    @epebble

    The latter.

    , @Redman
    @epebble

    I don't understand why folks are so down on Gorsuch. The Bostock decision which extended Title VII employment protections to gays and transgenders may not please many on the right. But unless the court invalidates the entire statute as unconstitutional (something that's not going to happen) one can understand the court extending its protection to at least gays.

    The issue with Roe is quite different, because there is no statute establishing a right to an abortion. Gorsuch has not shown himself to be wedded to stare decisis; thus, I suspect he would have little trouble overturning prior "incorrect" judicial opinions, Roe being the biggest example of that.

  23. @Neil Templeton
    Ms. Ginsburg knew nothing of fire and very little of the men who meant to quench it. But of course, she graduated Law at _____, so she understood the operation of all.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Ms. Ginsburg knew nothing of fire and very little of the men who meant to quench it. But of course, she graduated Law at _____, so she understood the operation of all.

    She attended two Ivy League rivals of Yale. Why would she care if New Haven burned down?

    The first 28 Justices did not attend a law school at all, and the first 31 had no law degree. (Some studied law as undergraduates, e.g., James Wilson at St Andrew’s. Author James A Michener would be called on to portray him there in the annual student pageant.)

    That first alum (not grad) was Levi Woodbury, who wrote the opinion that shot down future Chief Justice Salmon P Chase’s arguments in Jones v. Van Zandt (1847), a precursor to Dred Scott. Woodbury and Chase were native New Hampshiremen.

    The last appointed to the Court with no law school– or any tertiary education at all, apparently– was James F Byrnes of South Carolina. He was quite the character, but then so is almost every Palmetto politician, right?

    Woodbury, Chase, and Byrnes are the only three individuals in history to serve as governors and in all three branches of the federal government.

  24. Sailer’s (ironical) Butterknife:

    RBG was a driven, intelligent autist who didn’t have basic common sense.

    Occam’s (straight) Razor:

    RBG’s Physiognomy Israel, Congregation Topograh Fizab’Itzch

  25. @newrouter
    How many of RBG's clerks were Jewish?

    Replies: @Mike P., @Mr McKenna, @Buzz Mohawk

    Probably more than one.

  26. I love your incisive analogies most of the time, Steve, but you’re trying way too hard lately to rationalize “Who, Whom?”. There was no animating logic behind RBG’s mentality beyond what benefited her team; hiring competent and generally white clerks benefited her team, and agitating for more Diversity everywhere outside that domain also benefited her team.

    Every fan of RBG already understands this implicitly, so logicking it to death isn’t going to change their minds. They know that she was a reliable leftist who contributed massively to American progressive dominance, because she was. Her strategy always converged on this goal.

    Hypocrisy on the left isn’t an accidental consequence of Conquest’s laws, it’s baked right into the cake.

  27. @Wilkey
    @Anonymous

    Trump needs to win Florida, and it wouldn’t hurt him with him the Hispanic vote. Not sure it would really help him much, either.

    Barrett looks far more appealing on at least a superficial level. She’s attractive, but also a mother of seven, and straight from the Heartland. Overall Trump would probably secure more votes in more places with Barrett. Trying to stop her appointment, probably with the now standard Leftist attempts at character assassination, would also cost the Democrats a lot of votes with white women, and even other demos.

    Replies: @Abe, @MarkinLA, @Stan Adams

    Trying to stop her appointment, probably with the now standard Leftist attempts at character assassination

    25 women are being lined up right now to tearfully testify they were raped on broken glass by the entire Federalist Society.

  28. @James B. Shearer
    @Abe

    "The ratio is worse if you think about it. Judges choose politically like-minded clerks, and as blacks are basically 90-95% Democratic they would constitute 22%+ of Ginsburg’s potential clerk pool by politically-aligned demographics."

    At least one of Ginsburg's clerks, Benjamin J. Beaton (member of the Federalist Society and current Trump nominee to be a US district judge), appears to be a conservative.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Ginsburg’s one black clerk, Paul Watford, is a Democratic-aligned moderate who had clerked for the Republican judge Alex Kozinski.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Steve Sailer

    Maybe it’s like the old difference between “black politicians” and “politicians who just so happen to be black” kinda thing.

    A typical black clerk who made it through Ivy League schools via affirmative action/family contacts (think Michelle Obama) might easily become a snitch for the likes of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson types if a important case ever came up. A civil rights lawyer with an upcoming Supreme Court case might want advice on how to structure oral arguments to better win Ginsberg over (during the case.) I’m sure that happens quite a bit, but blacks might take it to a whole new level. Remember, Bill Clinton wanted to move the Democratic Party away from Earl Warren style Civil Rights liberalism that encouraged blacks to go bonkers. (Also, Ginsberg never came across as radically pro-union/pro-worker and embodied quite a bit of Clinton free market Neoliberalism in regards to economic decisions.)

    Anyway, a “black” clerk would typically need more personal oversight both for case work and to avoid potential leaking to the press and/or one side of a case. If the kid’s a real goomba, he might have to settle for a very downgraded position at a majority black family court or criminal court kinda gig. He might badmouth the Supreme Court and reveal private stuff quasi-publicly at parties that really shouldn’t be said. (Think Justice William Rehnquist’s past addiction to sleeping pills.)

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5e/57/75/5e5775178f28774a0167ab99df29782e.jpg

    , @res
    @Steve Sailer


    Paul Watford, is a Democratic-aligned moderate
     
    His JCS score is -0.358 which is right around the 2016 median for the Ninth Circuit Court he serves on. I'm not sure exactly what you meant by "Democratic-aligned moderate," but I would not refer to the Ninth Circuit Court as "moderate" and he appears to be a typical member.

    Replies: @Peripatetic Commenter

  29. @Almost Missouri
    Similarly, RBG shamed her fellow Justices into going her way on a Fourth Amendment case involving a 13-year-old girl by telling them "they have never been a 13-year-old girl," the implication being that since she had been, she knew it best was therefore more qualified to decide the case.

    Of course, by that logic, she was not qualified to decide on firefighters', policemen's, businessmen's, or any of the other cases involving people unlike her and professions in which she had never been.

    But as always with RBG, the arc of her logic only bent one way: toward the liberal utopia. No Deplorables allowed.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    Of course, by that logic, she was not qualified

    Not far off from Sonia’s dictum about being a ‘fat wise latina’ or something like that. It’s all identity politics nowadays, and you’re allowed to play unless, well, you know.

    It’s no longer about what you know, what you say, or what you do. It’s all about what you are.

  30. I wouldn’t discount old fashioned ethnic resentments as a motivating factor. The overwhelmingly and stereotypically Irish and Italian firefighters get taken down a few pegs and taught a lesson by a Jew going about “repairing the world” from her exalted chair on the Wizard High Council.

    It’s also a good example of “Let’s you and him fight” pitting proles against one another dressed up as social concern and pursuit of justice. If accused, Ruth could just say “hey, some of my best cases are black!”

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Alec Leamas Remote

    Since this was a dissent by Ginsburg, the ethnics got taken down zero pegs. Keep in mind that in recent years, the Supreme Ct has been overwhelmingly Catholic, so it would be very strange for it to be hostile to (mostly Catholic) Italians and Irish. If you hang around here you might have the impression that the Court is 100% Jewish and that Ginsburg was the leader of the cabal. Nothing could be further from the truth. And it appears that Trump is most likely to nominate yet another Catholic. It's hard (at least for me) to understand how Catholics came to dominate the court and with so little notice or backlash. Back in the day, WNs hated BOTH Catholics and Jews but now they seem to reserve all their ire for the Jews.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Paleo Liberal

  31. @epebble
    @Anonymous

    If this happens, it will be interesting to watch if the Democrats put up token grumble and wink-wink nod-nod go with the confirmation or go full nuclear trying take revenge on McConnel's 2016 Garland (in)action. Also, Dems don't have to feel so butthurt about that anyway since Gorsuch has become a loose cannon a la Roberts. So, the question is, do they know how to lose a battle to win a war or become just emotional and pull their hair.

    Replies: @Jack d, @Redman

    The latter.

  32. @newrouter
    How many of RBG's clerks were Jewish?

    Replies: @Mike P., @Mr McKenna, @Buzz Mohawk

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/as-of-2018-the-late-ruth-bader-ginsburg-had-hired-only-one-b/#comment-4172726

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/as-of-2018-the-late-ruth-bader-ginsburg-had-hired-only-one-b/#comment-4172556

    A couple of several stabs at the question which you may find by searching the comments on this blog. Suffice to say it’s a bit over 2%. The consensus estimate lands around 35-40% but it’s likely an undercount because names often lead to undercounting. And of course we’re not supposed to notice much less count, or we lose our jobs and our homes.

  33. RBG’s snobbishness reminds me of my liberal friends who, during the 2016 election, kept saying that even if all the manufacturing industries were to come back from China, nobody in the US would get a job since all of the jobs are automated. I asked the to explain what they meant by the jobs being “all automated” They just replied “they’re all automated!” I asked what part of the manufacturing process was automated, R&D? Obtaining raw materials? Tool and Die? Assembly? Shipping and Distribution? They did not have a clue about what I was talking about. When I mentioned Tool and Die, one guy asked what it was and why a factory couldn’t just send someone to a Home Depot or Lowe’s to get the tools that they needed.

    • Agree: Jim Christian
    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Mike Zwick


    When I mentioned Tool and Die, one guy asked what it was and why a factory couldn’t just send someone to a Home Depot or Lowe’s to get the tools that they needed.

     

    Lol, "let them eat cake".

    Replies: @anon

  34. @Intelligent Dasein

    Ruth Bader Ginsburg was a human biodiversity race realist about hiring for the kind of jobs she knew best...
     
    That seems, shall we just say, rather unlikely. More probably she just hired the people who had the qualifications she wanted and---unsurprisingly---they happened not to black.

    You can call this "being a human biodiversity race realist" if you want to, but you're upping the arity of the concept in a self-serving manner.

    Replies: @International Jew

    You’re right. Race Realism is about acting on a statistical generalization. Hiring is one by one.

    Unless what Steve meant was that RBG wasn’t troubled by her overall hiring stats because she was a realist about the distribution of talent in the population.

  35. @Wilkey
    But Ginsburg’s attitude is commonplace among members of the legal profession in general. Lawyers who have to attend college, graduate from law school, and pass a bar exam - passing several hundred other tests on the way to that bar exam - sue businesses left and right when those businesses require applicants to pass tests in order to qualify for a job, or when those tests are passed at different rates by those or different races. How very condescending Ginsburg and so many of her fellow lawyers are to assume her profession requires intelligent employees but not firefighting or other blue collar careers. It’s an attitude that has and will continue to cost this country dearly. Most of our competitors in Asia don’t have to put up with this shit.

    Replies: @MarkinLA, @Mr. Anon, @Hypnotoad666, @AnotherDad

    Imagine if during oral arguments over Ricci the lawyer brought up Ginsburg’s hiring history.

    • Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @MarkinLA

    Good point. Today's wokesters wouldn't hesitate for a moment to pull a stunt like that, and would be lauded by the media for doing so.

    We on the other hand would never dream of breaching decorum.

  36. @Wilkey
    @Anonymous

    Trump needs to win Florida, and it wouldn’t hurt him with him the Hispanic vote. Not sure it would really help him much, either.

    Barrett looks far more appealing on at least a superficial level. She’s attractive, but also a mother of seven, and straight from the Heartland. Overall Trump would probably secure more votes in more places with Barrett. Trying to stop her appointment, probably with the now standard Leftist attempts at character assassination, would also cost the Democrats a lot of votes with white women, and even other demos.

    Replies: @Abe, @MarkinLA, @Stan Adams

    Two of those 7 are adoptions from Haiti. We don’t need another Sandra Day O’Connor on the court.

    • Agree: Pop Warner
  37. @as
    It's ok. I am sure RBG's hires were diverse (i.e. Jewish).

    Replies: @Escher

    Sephardic, Ashkenazi, Mizrahi, halfies.
    That’s a ton of diversity right there.

    • Replies: @Gordo
    @Escher


    Sephardic, Ashkenazi, Mizrahi, halfies.
    That’s a ton of diversity right there.
     
    That's enough to run any country, and they frequently do.
  38. @Steve Sailer
    @James B. Shearer

    Ginsburg's one black clerk, Paul Watford, is a Democratic-aligned moderate who had clerked for the Republican judge Alex Kozinski.

    Replies: @Kronos, @res

    Maybe it’s like the old difference between “black politicians” and “politicians who just so happen to be black” kinda thing.

    A typical black clerk who made it through Ivy League schools via affirmative action/family contacts (think Michelle Obama) might easily become a snitch for the likes of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson types if a important case ever came up. A civil rights lawyer with an upcoming Supreme Court case might want advice on how to structure oral arguments to better win Ginsberg over (during the case.) I’m sure that happens quite a bit, but blacks might take it to a whole new level. Remember, Bill Clinton wanted to move the Democratic Party away from Earl Warren style Civil Rights liberalism that encouraged blacks to go bonkers. (Also, Ginsberg never came across as radically pro-union/pro-worker and embodied quite a bit of Clinton free market Neoliberalism in regards to economic decisions.)

    Anyway, a “black” clerk would typically need more personal oversight both for case work and to avoid potential leaking to the press and/or one side of a case. If the kid’s a real goomba, he might have to settle for a very downgraded position at a majority black family court or criminal court kinda gig. He might badmouth the Supreme Court and reveal private stuff quasi-publicly at parties that really shouldn’t be said. (Think Justice William Rehnquist’s past addiction to sleeping pills.)

  39. Anon[124] • Disclaimer says:

    her IQ snobbery meant she underrated cognitive demands of jobs like fire captain, some of which have become vastly more technical over Ginsburg’s lifetime.

    Although the stakes are not always that high, higher IQ workers even in menial jobs perform measurably better. Smarter ditch diggers, ceteris paribus, perform better than dumber ones. Maybe ditch diggers are scrupulously trained to recognize gas lines, but their employer didn’t think to clue them in about signs of priceless archeological sites. The smarter ones may think, “Maybe I should ask about this.” This sort of thing is one of Linda Gottfredson’s pet peeves. IQ is not just for the right tail.

    • Replies: @martin_2
    @Anon

    I owned and managed a cleaning business for many years. I would sooner work with a seventeen year old schoolboy with an IQ of 105 who had never so much as tidied his room than with a woman of forty five with an IQ of 75 who had been working as a cleaner all her adult life. I took one out with me one day whose IQ was even lower and had to take her home again after a couple of hours before she burnt the house we were in down.

  40. @Anon
    IOW, Ginsburg was a stereotypical Jew who vastly overestimated her own intelligence (linguistic, symbolic) over Goyum (spatial and general G).

    Isn’t this like the whole story of Jews in a nutshell? I’m sure at Masada, they were thinking, “These idiot Gentile brutes on the desert floor.” One massive Gentile ramp later, they weren’t thinking anything.

    The irony is that Ginsburg will be the reason Trump is re-elected. Too perfect. In the Pantheon of Stereotypical Jews, she is Athena.

    Replies: @Jack D, @al gore rhythms

    The Jews weren’t particularly known for their brilliance in antiquity. All the great minds were Greek.

    Christian elites in their lust for wealth and power have a way of creating unintended breeding experiments, such as breeding blacks to be big, dumb brutes with high fertility in order to serve as cheap labor for them. We all know how well that worked out. Another unintentional Christian created breeding experiment was to ban Jews from most occupations other than money lending and otherwise surviving by their wits.

    Most human mating is more or less random or driven by physical traits such as a preference for lighter hair and skin but not directed toward breeding smarter or dumber humans, so most human populations remain more or less level in intelligence. But we know from dog breeding (and other animals) that if you put a particular trait (including intelligence – there are smarter and dumber dog breeds too) under selection pressure you can achieve significant daylight between groups over relatively few generations and that is exactly what happened in the ghettos of Europe.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke, epebble
    • Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @Jack D


    Christian elites in their lust for wealth and power have a way of creating unintended breeding experiments, such as breeding blacks to be big, dumb brutes with high fertility
     
    "See everyone? White Christians are responsible for black dysfunction! Not us Jews!"

    Christian created breeding experiment was to ban Jews from most occupations other than money lending
     
    "Christians were so evil toward the Jews that they sequestered us into the most lucrative pursuits! How evil is that?"

    Good God you're tiresome.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew

    , @res
    @Jack D


    Most human mating is more or less random or driven by physical traits such as a preference for lighter hair and skin but not directed toward breeding smarter or dumber humans, so most human populations remain more or less level in intelligence.
     
    Perhaps more less random than more random.
    https://phys.org/news/2017-01-evidence-humans-partners-assortative.html

    For example.

    The researchers didn't just look at physical traits, they also examined assortative mating in other traits, such as years in education. For this, they turned to a British database and examined 7 780 couples. They looked for concordance amongst partners in genetic markers previously linked to years of education and found an impressively high correlation.

     

    Even more emphatically.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/mp2014105
    Genetics and intelligence differences: five special findings

    Assortative mating is far greater for intelligence than for most other traits. For example, assortative mating is about 0.20 for height68 and for weight,69 and about 0.10 for personality.70 For intelligence, assortative mating is about 0.40.19,71 Moreover, verbal intelligence shows greater assortative mating (~0.50) than nonverbal intelligence (~0.30), perhaps because it is easier to gauge someone’s verbal ability such as vocabulary than their nonverbal intelligence such as spatial ability. Assortative mating for intelligence is caused by initial selection of a mate (assortment) rather than by couples becoming more similar to each other after living together (convergence).72,73 In part, spouses select each other for intelligence on the basis of education—spouses correlate about 0.60 for years of education19—which correlates about 0.45 with intelligence.50
     

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Jack D

    , @Kratoklastes
    @Jack D


    that is exactly what happened in the ghettos of Europe
     
    That must be why everyone knows about Kosher Wakanda - i.e., the shtetls of Lithuania and Belarus...

    If the mythical (cherry-picked, US-centric) Ashkenazi IQ was actually σ higher on average, the hovel-dwellers of Kosher Wakanda would have been the foundational minds of the Enlightenment and the Industrial Revolution.

    Sadly, no.

    Gilad Atzmon is correct in his 'cognitive bifurcation' hypothesis as it applies to the Jews - but it was entirely a Western European phenomenon. The Eastern European ones had barely learned to wipe their own asses by the time they flooded into Western Europe in the 1800s - and literally everybody noticed how dirty and stupid they were.

    In the East (where the Yank Ashkenazim have their roots) they were dumber than a bag of rocks - which is why the Western European rabbinate gave Zionism short shrift (and so Herzl et al. had to go 'beyond the Pale' to find a rabbi backward enough to give a rabbinical imprimatur for their nonsense).
  41. @Wilkey
    But Ginsburg’s attitude is commonplace among members of the legal profession in general. Lawyers who have to attend college, graduate from law school, and pass a bar exam - passing several hundred other tests on the way to that bar exam - sue businesses left and right when those businesses require applicants to pass tests in order to qualify for a job, or when those tests are passed at different rates by those or different races. How very condescending Ginsburg and so many of her fellow lawyers are to assume her profession requires intelligent employees but not firefighting or other blue collar careers. It’s an attitude that has and will continue to cost this country dearly. Most of our competitors in Asia don’t have to put up with this shit.

    Replies: @MarkinLA, @Mr. Anon, @Hypnotoad666, @AnotherDad

    How very condescending Ginsburg and so many of her fellow lawyers are to assume her profession requires intelligent employees but not firefighting or other blue collar careers. It’s an attitude that has and will continue to cost this country dearly. Most of our competitors in Asia don’t have to put up with this shit.

    Indeed. Our ruling classes have no understanding nor appreciation of manual labor, even skilled labor. The people who go into trades are just meatsticks to them – just interchangeable cogs in an economic machine. They don’t understand that a smart electrician is better than a dumb electrician, that an experienced plumber is better than an inexperience plumber. That a smart/experienced anything is better than a dumb/inexperienced anything.

  42. @Anon
    IOW, Ginsburg was a stereotypical Jew who vastly overestimated her own intelligence (linguistic, symbolic) over Goyum (spatial and general G).

    Isn’t this like the whole story of Jews in a nutshell? I’m sure at Masada, they were thinking, “These idiot Gentile brutes on the desert floor.” One massive Gentile ramp later, they weren’t thinking anything.

    The irony is that Ginsburg will be the reason Trump is re-elected. Too perfect. In the Pantheon of Stereotypical Jews, she is Athena.

    Replies: @Jack D, @al gore rhythms

    If Jews really do control the world, or at least exert more influence over it than any other ethnic/religious group, then don’t they have quite good grounds to be cocky about their intelligence?

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @al gore rhythms

    Given the current state of the world, who would want to admit to being in control of it?

    , @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @al gore rhythms

    Your question supposes that their position has been achieved through intelligence.

  43. @Alec Leamas Remote
    I wouldn't discount old fashioned ethnic resentments as a motivating factor. The overwhelmingly and stereotypically Irish and Italian firefighters get taken down a few pegs and taught a lesson by a Jew going about "repairing the world" from her exalted chair on the Wizard High Council.

    It's also a good example of "Let's you and him fight" pitting proles against one another dressed up as social concern and pursuit of justice. If accused, Ruth could just say "hey, some of my best cases are black!"

    Replies: @Jack D

    Since this was a dissent by Ginsburg, the ethnics got taken down zero pegs. Keep in mind that in recent years, the Supreme Ct has been overwhelmingly Catholic, so it would be very strange for it to be hostile to (mostly Catholic) Italians and Irish. If you hang around here you might have the impression that the Court is 100% Jewish and that Ginsburg was the leader of the cabal. Nothing could be further from the truth. And it appears that Trump is most likely to nominate yet another Catholic. It’s hard (at least for me) to understand how Catholics came to dominate the court and with so little notice or backlash. Back in the day, WNs hated BOTH Catholics and Jews but now they seem to reserve all their ire for the Jews.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Jack D


    Since this was a dissent by Ginsburg, the ethnics got taken down zero pegs.
     
    Pettifoggery.

    Keep in mind that in recent years, the Supreme Ct has been overwhelmingly Catholic, so it would be very strange for it to be hostile to (mostly Catholic) Italians and Irish.

     

    The Supreme Court's membership has been disproportionately Catholic and Jewish for a while.

    At the time of RBG's death, Catholics were over-represented at a bit over twice their rate of the U.S. Population, while Jews were over-represented at a rate of over sixteen times their share of the U.S. Population.

    If you hang around here you might have the impression that the Court is 100% Jewish and that Ginsburg was the leader of the cabal.
     
    I think the point is that the three Jews always vote together on the hot button issues (please don't point to divergent opinions on Admiralty jurisdiction or obscure IRS letter rulings to refute this), and when they can cobble together five votes on the left to prevail (in which case the regnant majority is 60% Jewish) the reasoning depends upon typically Jewish tricks and wordplay.

    Nothing could be further from the truth.
     
    Once again, the left wing 5-4 majorities were 60% Jewish. That's power punching at 30x Jews' share of the U.S. Population.

    And it appears that Trump is most likely to nominate yet another Catholic. It’s hard (at least for me) to understand how Catholics came to dominate the court and with so little notice or backlash.
     
    Were you under the impression that Kennedy and Sotomayor reliably voted as a block together with Alito, Thomas and Scalia? Roberts?

    Back in the day, WNs hated BOTH Catholics and Jews but now they seem to reserve all their ire for the Jews.
     
    "White Nationalist" is a buzzword with no fixed meaning, and one of rather recent provenance. As used today, it describes everyone who isn't white or even white adjacent and who is not an absolute ethnic masochist (save, surprisingly, for Jews).

    Can you point to any of the Court's landmark, culture-rending decisions which divided the Court's Jews on both sides?
    , @Paleo Liberal
    @Jack D

    In the North, the Second Klan was primarily anti-Catholic, although they weren’t so keen on Jews.

    And the Second Klan was often larger and more popular in the North, especially Indiana (although one can debate as to just how Northern the Hoosiers are ).

  44. also, to avoid disparate impact resulting in discrimination, you have to show the standard you apply is necessary to perform the tasks of the job. I imagine the top 60% of the top 30 law schools would have the skills needed to be a Supreme Court Justice, its not quantum physics, but requires solid writing skills and good legal reasoning, which are skills possessed by even average lawyers. So clearly her demand to hire the very top of the class at 5 law schools was an unnecessary requirement that needlessly eliminated many qualified candidates. She would be guilty of discrimination under her own case law. Wonder why this issue is not mentioned in MSM.

    • Replies: @Fredrik
    @melvin moody

    This is the Harvard admissions problem from another angle. So many qualified candidates, so few spots.

    If you have 1,000 possible clerks but you only need 1 then the appointed one would normally be the best(or as near the top that it won't be noticed). Why should anyone accept Jamal at #572 when they can have Aviv at #1?

    Besides, with Ginsburg the important question isn't really about blacks but about women.

    She's known as a womens rights champion so how many female clerks did she employ?

    Replies: @ex-banker, @Known Fact, @res

  45. @Wilkey
    @Anonymous

    Trump needs to win Florida, and it wouldn’t hurt him with him the Hispanic vote. Not sure it would really help him much, either.

    Barrett looks far more appealing on at least a superficial level. She’s attractive, but also a mother of seven, and straight from the Heartland. Overall Trump would probably secure more votes in more places with Barrett. Trying to stop her appointment, probably with the now standard Leftist attempts at character assassination, would also cost the Democrats a lot of votes with white women, and even other demos.

    Replies: @Abe, @MarkinLA, @Stan Adams

    Define Hispanic.

    Trump already has the Cuban vote. Mexicans in California and Puerto Ricans in New York aren’t going to vote for him because he wants to nominate a Miami-born Cuban woman to the Supreme Court.

    The other day I got into a conversation with a pro-Trump boomer and he started telling me about his younger Venezuelan wife. Her family fled the country after Chavez took power. Even with her first-hand knowledge of the joys of living in a socialist paradise, she’s ardently pro-Biden. The lockdowns have wiped out her jewelry business and she blames Trump.

    • Replies: @Redman
    @Stan Adams

    How can someone be so colossally dumb as to blame Trump for the lockdowns?

    It's hard to accept that there are people so willfully ignorant, and yet we still believe in democracy.

    , @Clyde
    @Stan Adams

    Younger Venezuelan wife, turns into a Biden voter with no common sense. Good account.

  46. @al gore rhythms
    @Anon

    If Jews really do control the world, or at least exert more influence over it than any other ethnic/religious group, then don't they have quite good grounds to be cocky about their intelligence?

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Given the current state of the world, who would want to admit to being in control of it?

  47. @Mike Zwick
    RBG's snobbishness reminds me of my liberal friends who, during the 2016 election, kept saying that even if all the manufacturing industries were to come back from China, nobody in the US would get a job since all of the jobs are automated. I asked the to explain what they meant by the jobs being "all automated" They just replied "they're all automated!" I asked what part of the manufacturing process was automated, R&D? Obtaining raw materials? Tool and Die? Assembly? Shipping and Distribution? They did not have a clue about what I was talking about. When I mentioned Tool and Die, one guy asked what it was and why a factory couldn't just send someone to a Home Depot or Lowe's to get the tools that they needed.

    Replies: @Pericles

    When I mentioned Tool and Die, one guy asked what it was and why a factory couldn’t just send someone to a Home Depot or Lowe’s to get the tools that they needed.

    Lol, “let them eat cake”.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Pericles

    "learn to code!"

  48. @MarkinLA
    @Wilkey

    Imagine if during oral arguments over Ricci the lawyer brought up Ginsburg's hiring history.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Good point. Today’s wokesters wouldn’t hesitate for a moment to pull a stunt like that, and would be lauded by the media for doing so.

    We on the other hand would never dream of breaching decorum.

  49. @Jack D
    @Anon

    The Jews weren't particularly known for their brilliance in antiquity. All the great minds were Greek.

    Christian elites in their lust for wealth and power have a way of creating unintended breeding experiments, such as breeding blacks to be big, dumb brutes with high fertility in order to serve as cheap labor for them. We all know how well that worked out. Another unintentional Christian created breeding experiment was to ban Jews from most occupations other than money lending and otherwise surviving by their wits.

    Most human mating is more or less random or driven by physical traits such as a preference for lighter hair and skin but not directed toward breeding smarter or dumber humans, so most human populations remain more or less level in intelligence. But we know from dog breeding (and other animals) that if you put a particular trait (including intelligence - there are smarter and dumber dog breeds too) under selection pressure you can achieve significant daylight between groups over relatively few generations and that is exactly what happened in the ghettos of Europe.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @res, @Kratoklastes

    Christian elites in their lust for wealth and power have a way of creating unintended breeding experiments, such as breeding blacks to be big, dumb brutes with high fertility

    “See everyone? White Christians are responsible for black dysfunction! Not us Jews!”

    Christian created breeding experiment was to ban Jews from most occupations other than money lending

    “Christians were so evil toward the Jews that they sequestered us into the most lucrative pursuits! How evil is that?”

    Good God you’re tiresome.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
    • Replies: @Matt Buckalew
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Jack is what people at my country club call a Villanova Jew.

    I.e. my jewish lawyer’s kid is going to Villanova better look for a new lawyer.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas Remote, @Jack D

  50. @al gore rhythms
    @Anon

    If Jews really do control the world, or at least exert more influence over it than any other ethnic/religious group, then don't they have quite good grounds to be cocky about their intelligence?

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Your question supposes that their position has been achieved through intelligence.

  51. RBG’s attitude toward firefighters may have been very similar to Michael Bloomberg’s contempt for farmers. In dissing farmers, Bloomberg revealed a deep and aggressive ignorance that is rooted in something other than a mere lack of knowledge.

  52. I think you’ve flogged the black clerks RBG didn’t hire to death already.

    • Replies: @Gordo
    @The Alarmist


    I think you’ve flogged the black clerks RBG didn’t hire to death already.
     
    Lynched them almost?
  53. @melvin moody
    also, to avoid disparate impact resulting in discrimination, you have to show the standard you apply is necessary to perform the tasks of the job. I imagine the top 60% of the top 30 law schools would have the skills needed to be a Supreme Court Justice, its not quantum physics, but requires solid writing skills and good legal reasoning, which are skills possessed by even average lawyers. So clearly her demand to hire the very top of the class at 5 law schools was an unnecessary requirement that needlessly eliminated many qualified candidates. She would be guilty of discrimination under her own case law. Wonder why this issue is not mentioned in MSM.

    Replies: @Fredrik

    This is the Harvard admissions problem from another angle. So many qualified candidates, so few spots.

    If you have 1,000 possible clerks but you only need 1 then the appointed one would normally be the best(or as near the top that it won’t be noticed). Why should anyone accept Jamal at #572 when they can have Aviv at #1?

    Besides, with Ginsburg the important question isn’t really about blacks but about women.

    She’s known as a womens rights champion so how many female clerks did she employ?

    • Replies: @ex-banker
    @Fredrik

    I've heard the story a million times of Obama eschewing the big law route to become a community organizer, but wouldn't he have been a slam dunk for a major clerkship as the editor of HLR?

    Did he not want the grind of that job either?

    Replies: @MarkinLA, @Jim Don Bob

    , @Known Fact
    @Fredrik

    Kavanaugh for example made a big deal (almost nauseating, in fact) about hiring so many female clerks. But back to the main point, has anyone compared RBG's hiring record with that of other past and current Supremos?

    , @res
    @Fredrik


    Besides, with Ginsburg the important question isn’t really about blacks but about women.

    She’s known as a womens rights champion so how many female clerks did she employ?
     

    Supposedly about half.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/12/12/supreme-court-clerks-are-not-a-particularly-diverse-lot/

    “While Ginsburg and Breyer have hired men and women in equal numbers, other chambers continue to be male-dominated. The court’s swing vote, Anthony M. Kennedy, has hired six times as many men as women as law clerks since 2005.”
     
    BTW, does anyone have access to the original report giving that statement? Is this it?
    https://www.law.com/nationallawjournal/sites/nationallawjournal/2017/12/11/scotus-law-clerks-the-gender-imbalance/
  54. @Escher
    @as

    Sephardic, Ashkenazi, Mizrahi, halfies.
    That’s a ton of diversity right there.

    Replies: @Gordo

    Sephardic, Ashkenazi, Mizrahi, halfies.
    That’s a ton of diversity right there.

    That’s enough to run any country, and they frequently do.

  55. @216
    Verified Hate

    https://twitter.com/profit30/status/1307818135546998785

    Replies: @Stebbing Heuer, @vinteuil, @vinteuil

    ‘White supremacist’

    Memo to white Americans: if you don’t start standing up for each other, the left are going to enslave and kill you.

    • Agree: Gordo
    • Replies: @Realist
    @Stebbing Heuer


    Memo to white Americans: if you don’t start standing up for each other, the left are going to enslave and kill you.
     
    That is correct. When the SHTF anti-White, Whites must be the first dealt with.
    , @216
    @Stebbing Heuer

    Most conservatives have yet to cut their:

    -Cable
    -Netflix
    -Dead tree media
    -Sportsball

    With ratings dropping on the latter, we might see the start of something; but our people have to understand the concept of "collective self defense"

  56. @Stebbing Heuer
    @216

    'White supremacist'

    Memo to white Americans: if you don't start standing up for each other, the left are going to enslave and kill you.

    Replies: @Realist, @216

    Memo to white Americans: if you don’t start standing up for each other, the left are going to enslave and kill you.

    That is correct. When the SHTF anti-White, Whites must be the first dealt with.

  57. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile dastardly villain Marco Rubio (Bush family operative) allied with Jared is pushing for the shaky Cuban lady scotus contender Lagoa to get the open scotus seat.

    Welp. Cernovich says the moderate Lagoa will be announced Tuesday.

    If true it's just further confirmation that

    JARED KUSHNER HAS "F*** THE BASE" TATTOOED ON HIS EYELIDS

    Down with the Kushnerists!

    God help the Deplorables!

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Anon, @epebble, @Joseph Doaks, @dvorak

    So the vacant RGB seat has become the “woman’s seat”? This is identity politics straight out of the Democrat playbook. When will Republicans learn that you get no points with them for following their playbook—they still hate you.

    Dear Mr. Trump, pandering is a sigh of weakness!

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @Joseph Doaks


    So the vacant RGB seat has become the “woman’s seat”?
     
    He knows Murkowski and Collins are going to be a problem and needs to try to keep them on board.
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Joseph Doaks


    So the vacant RGB seat has become the “woman’s seat”? This is identity politics straight out of the Democrat playbook. When will Republicans learn that you get no points with them for following their playbook—they still hate you.

    Dear Mr. Trump, pandering is a sigh of weakness!

     

    I don't know that nominating a woman makes it the "woman's seat," but there are practical considerations at play.

    Although I have little doubt that they'll try something, it's probably much less likely that the Democrats will get any traction with accusations that ACB forcibly groped a homely girl in suburban DC sometime in the early eighties. BOOF!

    It's also the case that suburban white women are a soft spot of Trump's coalition, and a demographic that he probably needs to do better with to win certain States now "in play."

    Furthermore, the former "Big Blue Wall" States of PA/MI/WI/MI and OH are disproportionately Catholic, so getting the Satanic Democrats on the Judiciary Committee to lash out at the pretty white Catholic working mom as someone beneath contempt and out of the mainstream of American life is probably a good electoral move here.
  58. Steve is a genius when it comes to taking the malice out of people’s actions

  59. @OscarWildeLoveChild
    It's all variations of the "better schools" cliche at its essence.

    Fig leafs, shell games, pricing others out, redlining, straw men, and red herrings--in the end, people say one thing and do another. Mostly they say what they want other people to do. All underlying reasons for one's own actions are justified under themes.

    Everyone. Every.One. Is a race realistic.

    Replies: @Joseph Doaks

    I would go further and say that everyone is racist. It has been clearly demonstrated in young children’s first reaction to obvious racial differences. But liberals are so brainwashed that they ignore their lying eyes and won’t admit the truth even when they have been personally victimized.

    Liberals are racist when they carry Black Lives Matter signs. They’re really saying, “I know you Blacks are dangerous, but look, I’m on your side. Please don’t hurt me!”

  60. @Fredrik
    @melvin moody

    This is the Harvard admissions problem from another angle. So many qualified candidates, so few spots.

    If you have 1,000 possible clerks but you only need 1 then the appointed one would normally be the best(or as near the top that it won't be noticed). Why should anyone accept Jamal at #572 when they can have Aviv at #1?

    Besides, with Ginsburg the important question isn't really about blacks but about women.

    She's known as a womens rights champion so how many female clerks did she employ?

    Replies: @ex-banker, @Known Fact, @res

    I’ve heard the story a million times of Obama eschewing the big law route to become a community organizer, but wouldn’t he have been a slam dunk for a major clerkship as the editor of HLR?

    Did he not want the grind of that job either?

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    @ex-banker

    Did he actually DO anything at the Harvard Law Review? I am no lawyer but from what I have read, there is no (or maybe very, very little) of his legal scholarship.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @ex-banker

    BHO is lazy. He has never done a damned thing.

  61. @Pericles
    @Mike Zwick


    When I mentioned Tool and Die, one guy asked what it was and why a factory couldn’t just send someone to a Home Depot or Lowe’s to get the tools that they needed.

     

    Lol, "let them eat cake".

    Replies: @anon

    “learn to code!”

  62. OT. Thought this was hilarious.

  63. @Fredrik
    @melvin moody

    This is the Harvard admissions problem from another angle. So many qualified candidates, so few spots.

    If you have 1,000 possible clerks but you only need 1 then the appointed one would normally be the best(or as near the top that it won't be noticed). Why should anyone accept Jamal at #572 when they can have Aviv at #1?

    Besides, with Ginsburg the important question isn't really about blacks but about women.

    She's known as a womens rights champion so how many female clerks did she employ?

    Replies: @ex-banker, @Known Fact, @res

    Kavanaugh for example made a big deal (almost nauseating, in fact) about hiring so many female clerks. But back to the main point, has anyone compared RBG’s hiring record with that of other past and current Supremos?

  64. @Jim Don Bob
    The woman is a prime example of everything that is wrong with SCOTUS in particular and liberals in general.

    Replies: @Gianni in Guernsey, @David In TN

    It is why Oprah Winfrey said they needed to die.

  65. @The Alarmist
    I think you’ve flogged the black clerks RBG didn’t hire to death already.

    Replies: @Gordo

    I think you’ve flogged the black clerks RBG didn’t hire to death already.

    Lynched them almost?

  66. @Jack D
    @Alec Leamas Remote

    Since this was a dissent by Ginsburg, the ethnics got taken down zero pegs. Keep in mind that in recent years, the Supreme Ct has been overwhelmingly Catholic, so it would be very strange for it to be hostile to (mostly Catholic) Italians and Irish. If you hang around here you might have the impression that the Court is 100% Jewish and that Ginsburg was the leader of the cabal. Nothing could be further from the truth. And it appears that Trump is most likely to nominate yet another Catholic. It's hard (at least for me) to understand how Catholics came to dominate the court and with so little notice or backlash. Back in the day, WNs hated BOTH Catholics and Jews but now they seem to reserve all their ire for the Jews.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Paleo Liberal

    Since this was a dissent by Ginsburg, the ethnics got taken down zero pegs.

    Pettifoggery.

    Keep in mind that in recent years, the Supreme Ct has been overwhelmingly Catholic, so it would be very strange for it to be hostile to (mostly Catholic) Italians and Irish.

    The Supreme Court’s membership has been disproportionately Catholic and Jewish for a while.

    At the time of RBG’s death, Catholics were over-represented at a bit over twice their rate of the U.S. Population, while Jews were over-represented at a rate of over sixteen times their share of the U.S. Population.

    If you hang around here you might have the impression that the Court is 100% Jewish and that Ginsburg was the leader of the cabal.

    I think the point is that the three Jews always vote together on the hot button issues (please don’t point to divergent opinions on Admiralty jurisdiction or obscure IRS letter rulings to refute this), and when they can cobble together five votes on the left to prevail (in which case the regnant majority is 60% Jewish) the reasoning depends upon typically Jewish tricks and wordplay.

    Nothing could be further from the truth.

    Once again, the left wing 5-4 majorities were 60% Jewish. That’s power punching at 30x Jews’ share of the U.S. Population.

    And it appears that Trump is most likely to nominate yet another Catholic. It’s hard (at least for me) to understand how Catholics came to dominate the court and with so little notice or backlash.

    Were you under the impression that Kennedy and Sotomayor reliably voted as a block together with Alito, Thomas and Scalia? Roberts?

    Back in the day, WNs hated BOTH Catholics and Jews but now they seem to reserve all their ire for the Jews.

    “White Nationalist” is a buzzword with no fixed meaning, and one of rather recent provenance. As used today, it describes everyone who isn’t white or even white adjacent and who is not an absolute ethnic masochist (save, surprisingly, for Jews).

    Can you point to any of the Court’s landmark, culture-rending decisions which divided the Court’s Jews on both sides?

  67. @epebble
    @Anonymous

    If this happens, it will be interesting to watch if the Democrats put up token grumble and wink-wink nod-nod go with the confirmation or go full nuclear trying take revenge on McConnel's 2016 Garland (in)action. Also, Dems don't have to feel so butthurt about that anyway since Gorsuch has become a loose cannon a la Roberts. So, the question is, do they know how to lose a battle to win a war or become just emotional and pull their hair.

    Replies: @Jack d, @Redman

    I don’t understand why folks are so down on Gorsuch. The Bostock decision which extended Title VII employment protections to gays and transgenders may not please many on the right. But unless the court invalidates the entire statute as unconstitutional (something that’s not going to happen) one can understand the court extending its protection to at least gays.

    The issue with Roe is quite different, because there is no statute establishing a right to an abortion. Gorsuch has not shown himself to be wedded to stare decisis; thus, I suspect he would have little trouble overturning prior “incorrect” judicial opinions, Roe being the biggest example of that.

    • Agree: Inquiring Mind
  68. @Stan Adams
    @Wilkey

    Define Hispanic.

    Trump already has the Cuban vote. Mexicans in California and Puerto Ricans in New York aren't going to vote for him because he wants to nominate a Miami-born Cuban woman to the Supreme Court.

    The other day I got into a conversation with a pro-Trump boomer and he started telling me about his younger Venezuelan wife. Her family fled the country after Chavez took power. Even with her first-hand knowledge of the joys of living in a socialist paradise, she's ardently pro-Biden. The lockdowns have wiped out her jewelry business and she blames Trump.

    Replies: @Redman, @Clyde

    How can someone be so colossally dumb as to blame Trump for the lockdowns?

    It’s hard to accept that there are people so willfully ignorant, and yet we still believe in democracy.

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  69. “This probably best explains the dichotomy between Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s ruthless race realism in hiring her own law clerks…versus her dissent in the famous Ricci case”

    still going with this one?

    sorry. occam’s razor. she was a jewish enemy combatant who sought to destroy WASP America. she employed a generalized guiding principle for leftists. in this case, diversity for thee, not for me.

    lately, no armed self defense for thee, armed security detail for me, seems to be the one that’s really all the rage. ah yes, but she was a strong proponent of that one as well. she tried to disarm every law abiding American, every chance she got.

    at absolute best, it was the lawyer’s diversity rule as i call it – i can always sue you for not having enough (whatever people), but you can never sue me for that. when do lawyers or law firms ever get sued for not hiring enough (whatever persons)? never, that’s when.

  70. @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @Jack D


    Christian elites in their lust for wealth and power have a way of creating unintended breeding experiments, such as breeding blacks to be big, dumb brutes with high fertility
     
    "See everyone? White Christians are responsible for black dysfunction! Not us Jews!"

    Christian created breeding experiment was to ban Jews from most occupations other than money lending
     
    "Christians were so evil toward the Jews that they sequestered us into the most lucrative pursuits! How evil is that?"

    Good God you're tiresome.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew

    Jack is what people at my country club call a Villanova Jew.

    I.e. my jewish lawyer’s kid is going to Villanova better look for a new lawyer.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas Remote
    @Matt Buckalew


    Jack is what people at my country club call a Villanova Jew.

    I.e. my jewish lawyer’s kid is going to Villanova better look for a new lawyer.

     

    Merion? PCC?

    Replies: @Hibernian

    , @Jack D
    @Matt Buckalew

    You can't really control how smart your kids are. There are people who, God forbid, have kids that are mentally retarded (or whatever the PC term is this week) let alone Villanova students and I would never judge them.

    But, thank God, my kids graduated from Wharton and MIT (and I didn't have to bribe anyone to get them in). Is that good enough for you?

    Replies: @anon

  71. • LOL: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Gianni in Guernsey

    Say hi to Vince Foster.

  72. “Everyone is conservative about what he knows best.”

    Ginsburg ran her mouth about Trump before he was elected, after having been a Supreme Court justice for decades, and knowing that that’s something you never do.

    but she did it anyway. and then didn’t recuse herself on any case.

    why? because it has nothing to do with being conservative about what you know best, and everything to do with her being our enemy.

    anarcho-tyranny at the highest level. the rules are for you, not for me.

    recusing yourself is something only stupid Republicans do, following the rules to a T, sometimes even going further than the rules require, into “principles” territory. that’s why Jeff Sessions basically ruined Trump’s presidency, but democrats NEVER, NEVER recuse, resign, or apologize.

  73. @ex-banker
    @Fredrik

    I've heard the story a million times of Obama eschewing the big law route to become a community organizer, but wouldn't he have been a slam dunk for a major clerkship as the editor of HLR?

    Did he not want the grind of that job either?

    Replies: @MarkinLA, @Jim Don Bob

    Did he actually DO anything at the Harvard Law Review? I am no lawyer but from what I have read, there is no (or maybe very, very little) of his legal scholarship.

  74. @Joseph Doaks
    @Anonymous

    So the vacant RGB seat has become the "woman's seat"? This is identity politics straight out of the Democrat playbook. When will Republicans learn that you get no points with them for following their playbook---they still hate you.

    Dear Mr. Trump, pandering is a sigh of weakness!

    Replies: @William Badwhite, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    So the vacant RGB seat has become the “woman’s seat”?

    He knows Murkowski and Collins are going to be a problem and needs to try to keep them on board.

  75. @216
    Verified Hate

    https://twitter.com/profit30/status/1307818135546998785

    Replies: @Stebbing Heuer, @vinteuil, @vinteuil

    It’s not enough for these vile parasites that this poor guy who made the mistake of thinking he was allowed to defend himself and his property against murderous attackers is dead, by his own hand.

    No. They wanted their show trial. They wanted him to abase himself before them – to confess his guilt and to proclaim his love for Big Black Brother – before they killed him.

  76. @Joseph Doaks
    @Anonymous

    So the vacant RGB seat has become the "woman's seat"? This is identity politics straight out of the Democrat playbook. When will Republicans learn that you get no points with them for following their playbook---they still hate you.

    Dear Mr. Trump, pandering is a sigh of weakness!

    Replies: @William Badwhite, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    So the vacant RGB seat has become the “woman’s seat”? This is identity politics straight out of the Democrat playbook. When will Republicans learn that you get no points with them for following their playbook—they still hate you.

    Dear Mr. Trump, pandering is a sigh of weakness!

    I don’t know that nominating a woman makes it the “woman’s seat,” but there are practical considerations at play.

    Although I have little doubt that they’ll try something, it’s probably much less likely that the Democrats will get any traction with accusations that ACB forcibly groped a homely girl in suburban DC sometime in the early eighties. BOOF!

    It’s also the case that suburban white women are a soft spot of Trump’s coalition, and a demographic that he probably needs to do better with to win certain States now “in play.”

    Furthermore, the former “Big Blue Wall” States of PA/MI/WI/MI and OH are disproportionately Catholic, so getting the Satanic Democrats on the Judiciary Committee to lash out at the pretty white Catholic working mom as someone beneath contempt and out of the mainstream of American life is probably a good electoral move here.

  77. @Steve Sailer
    @James B. Shearer

    Ginsburg's one black clerk, Paul Watford, is a Democratic-aligned moderate who had clerked for the Republican judge Alex Kozinski.

    Replies: @Kronos, @res

    Paul Watford, is a Democratic-aligned moderate

    His JCS score is -0.358 which is right around the 2016 median for the Ninth Circuit Court he serves on. I’m not sure exactly what you meant by “Democratic-aligned moderate,” but I would not refer to the Ninth Circuit Court as “moderate” and he appears to be a typical member.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Commenter
    @res

    Well, Trump has been changing the character of the 9th Circuit, and may have changed it totally by November 3.

  78. @wren
    Wow, is it really true that RBG only picked one black person out of ~150 people she hired?

    No wonder she was notorious.

    By the way, I have heard that she had the same hiring practice for interns and secretaries, at least during her time on the US Court of Appeals in DC. She hired zero black interns and zero black secretaries.

    Are there any motivated young black interns or experienced black secretaries in DC?

    There must not be any at all!

    Otherwise, I just can't figure this out.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    Wow, is it really true that RBG only picked one black person out of ~150 people she hired?

    And per Steve’s prior profile on the guy he appears to be about 37.5% black. So, rounding off, it would be fair to say RBG hired zero blacks.

  79. “But her IQ snobbery meant she underrated cognitive demands of jobs like fire captain, some of which have become vastly more technical over Ginsburg’s lifetime.”

    Also to the point, how many fire captains did RBG personally know during her adult life? She probably also saw all those fire captains and wondered how many of them were women. If they were all men, wouldn’t that, according to RBG, have been prime facia evidence of sexual discrimination? Forget racial prejudice, what about sexual discrimination? Because it’s more than likely that someone such as RBG would’ve noticed “How come these fire captains are all men? Everyone knows that women can do every single type of job as men can, and do it just as well, so why are all these NH Fire captains men?”

  80. @Jack D
    @Anon

    The Jews weren't particularly known for their brilliance in antiquity. All the great minds were Greek.

    Christian elites in their lust for wealth and power have a way of creating unintended breeding experiments, such as breeding blacks to be big, dumb brutes with high fertility in order to serve as cheap labor for them. We all know how well that worked out. Another unintentional Christian created breeding experiment was to ban Jews from most occupations other than money lending and otherwise surviving by their wits.

    Most human mating is more or less random or driven by physical traits such as a preference for lighter hair and skin but not directed toward breeding smarter or dumber humans, so most human populations remain more or less level in intelligence. But we know from dog breeding (and other animals) that if you put a particular trait (including intelligence - there are smarter and dumber dog breeds too) under selection pressure you can achieve significant daylight between groups over relatively few generations and that is exactly what happened in the ghettos of Europe.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @res, @Kratoklastes

    Most human mating is more or less random or driven by physical traits such as a preference for lighter hair and skin but not directed toward breeding smarter or dumber humans, so most human populations remain more or less level in intelligence.

    Perhaps more less random than more random.
    https://phys.org/news/2017-01-evidence-humans-partners-assortative.html

    For example.

    The researchers didn’t just look at physical traits, they also examined assortative mating in other traits, such as years in education. For this, they turned to a British database and examined 7 780 couples. They looked for concordance amongst partners in genetic markers previously linked to years of education and found an impressively high correlation.

    Even more emphatically.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/mp2014105
    Genetics and intelligence differences: five special findings

    Assortative mating is far greater for intelligence than for most other traits. For example, assortative mating is about 0.20 for height68 and for weight,69 and about 0.10 for personality.70 For intelligence, assortative mating is about 0.40.19,71 Moreover, verbal intelligence shows greater assortative mating (~0.50) than nonverbal intelligence (~0.30), perhaps because it is easier to gauge someone’s verbal ability such as vocabulary than their nonverbal intelligence such as spatial ability. Assortative mating for intelligence is caused by initial selection of a mate (assortment) rather than by couples becoming more similar to each other after living together (convergence).72,73 In part, spouses select each other for intelligence on the basis of education—spouses correlate about 0.60 for years of education19—which correlates about 0.45 with intelligence.50

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @res


    Assortative mating for intelligence is caused by initial selection of a mate (assortment) rather than by couples becoming more similar to each other after living together (convergence).
     
    Mere proximity must be a big factor as well, given that so many people marry their classmates from college or professional school. It would be interesting if someone could tease out this effect to isolate the role of just IQ itself on mutual attraction -- perhaps by looking at online dating data.

    The difference in gender data would be interesting as well. I would guess that women value a man's perceived IQ more than vice versa. With all the data they have, you'd think online matchmakers by now would be able to write an algorithm to just assign your perfect mate (or hookup, as the case may be).
    , @Jack D
    @res

    I was referring more to the past when most people outside the aristocracy and the clergy did not receive education beyond the primary level, if that, so assorting by education would not have really been possible. Of course there was sorting by religion, social and economic class, occupation, etc. which would have had some of the same effect. In the US today, the assorting by education push is strong - in the case of Ashkenazi Jews, it even exceeds the assortment by religion but that was not true until quite recently.

    There were other groups beside the Ashkenazi Jews, such as the Brahmins of India, where there was evolutionary push toward higher IQ. The Jews just seem to be a particularly notable example, producing Nobelists, billionaires and other high IQ types at perhaps 10x their frequency in the general population.

  81. @Wilkey
    But Ginsburg’s attitude is commonplace among members of the legal profession in general. Lawyers who have to attend college, graduate from law school, and pass a bar exam - passing several hundred other tests on the way to that bar exam - sue businesses left and right when those businesses require applicants to pass tests in order to qualify for a job, or when those tests are passed at different rates by those or different races. How very condescending Ginsburg and so many of her fellow lawyers are to assume her profession requires intelligent employees but not firefighting or other blue collar careers. It’s an attitude that has and will continue to cost this country dearly. Most of our competitors in Asia don’t have to put up with this shit.

    Replies: @MarkinLA, @Mr. Anon, @Hypnotoad666, @AnotherDad

    The 1971 Duke Power v. Griggs case and the doctrine of “disparate impact” that it created effectively banned the use of anything resembling an IQ test in hiring decisions. Thus, instead of using a cheap, efficient, and highly effective tool to select suitable candidates (as the military does), employers have had to rely on paper credentials like degrees and prior experience.

    Shutting out bright applicants who happen to be inexperienced and uncredentialed has undoubtedly done immense harm to the fairness and efficiency of the labor market. The resources wasted over the decades in piling up pointless degrees must be astronomical.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Hypnotoad666


    The 1971 Duke Power v. Griggs case and the doctrine of “disparate impact” that it created effectively banned the use of anything resembling an IQ test in hiring decisions. Thus, instead of using a cheap, efficient, and highly effective tool to select suitable candidates (as the military does), employers have had to rely on paper credentials like degrees and prior experience.
     
    You know, somewhere in the ether a left winger is reading this comment, and resolves "don't worry, we'll get to the military soon enough."
    , @epochehusserl
    @Hypnotoad666

    I worked for a student loan collection agency and I have first hand knowledge of the enormous waste in our credentialing factories. In the last 10 years the collection agencies stopped expecting people to pay and merely rolled the loan onto another ledger.

  82. @Fredrik
    @melvin moody

    This is the Harvard admissions problem from another angle. So many qualified candidates, so few spots.

    If you have 1,000 possible clerks but you only need 1 then the appointed one would normally be the best(or as near the top that it won't be noticed). Why should anyone accept Jamal at #572 when they can have Aviv at #1?

    Besides, with Ginsburg the important question isn't really about blacks but about women.

    She's known as a womens rights champion so how many female clerks did she employ?

    Replies: @ex-banker, @Known Fact, @res

    Besides, with Ginsburg the important question isn’t really about blacks but about women.

    She’s known as a womens rights champion so how many female clerks did she employ?

    Supposedly about half.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/12/12/supreme-court-clerks-are-not-a-particularly-diverse-lot/

    “While Ginsburg and Breyer have hired men and women in equal numbers, other chambers continue to be male-dominated. The court’s swing vote, Anthony M. Kennedy, has hired six times as many men as women as law clerks since 2005.”

    BTW, does anyone have access to the original report giving that statement? Is this it?
    https://www.law.com/nationallawjournal/sites/nationallawjournal/2017/12/11/scotus-law-clerks-the-gender-imbalance/

  83. @res
    @Jack D


    Most human mating is more or less random or driven by physical traits such as a preference for lighter hair and skin but not directed toward breeding smarter or dumber humans, so most human populations remain more or less level in intelligence.
     
    Perhaps more less random than more random.
    https://phys.org/news/2017-01-evidence-humans-partners-assortative.html

    For example.

    The researchers didn't just look at physical traits, they also examined assortative mating in other traits, such as years in education. For this, they turned to a British database and examined 7 780 couples. They looked for concordance amongst partners in genetic markers previously linked to years of education and found an impressively high correlation.

     

    Even more emphatically.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/mp2014105
    Genetics and intelligence differences: five special findings

    Assortative mating is far greater for intelligence than for most other traits. For example, assortative mating is about 0.20 for height68 and for weight,69 and about 0.10 for personality.70 For intelligence, assortative mating is about 0.40.19,71 Moreover, verbal intelligence shows greater assortative mating (~0.50) than nonverbal intelligence (~0.30), perhaps because it is easier to gauge someone’s verbal ability such as vocabulary than their nonverbal intelligence such as spatial ability. Assortative mating for intelligence is caused by initial selection of a mate (assortment) rather than by couples becoming more similar to each other after living together (convergence).72,73 In part, spouses select each other for intelligence on the basis of education—spouses correlate about 0.60 for years of education19—which correlates about 0.45 with intelligence.50
     

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Jack D

    Assortative mating for intelligence is caused by initial selection of a mate (assortment) rather than by couples becoming more similar to each other after living together (convergence).

    Mere proximity must be a big factor as well, given that so many people marry their classmates from college or professional school. It would be interesting if someone could tease out this effect to isolate the role of just IQ itself on mutual attraction — perhaps by looking at online dating data.

    The difference in gender data would be interesting as well. I would guess that women value a man’s perceived IQ more than vice versa. With all the data they have, you’d think online matchmakers by now would be able to write an algorithm to just assign your perfect mate (or hookup, as the case may be).

  84. Long term bias and lies brainwash us profoundly. This can be overcome only in our area of expertise and deep personal experience.

    Lies by media, police, politicians are treated as “isolated incidents” of misinformation, not of wholesale dishonesty and systemic bias

    Outside our personal experience, like in firefighting, we don’t have enough knowledge to oppose and resist the constant barrage of misinformation

    We wrote about Conquest’s and similar laws

    https://sincerity.net/experts-trust-lying-media/

    Laws of credulity:
    Everyone is conservative about what he knows best. Robert Conquest’s First Laws of Politics
    The same person often advocates government regulations in areas in which they are ignorant and opposes them in areas where they have knowledge. [Vodnoy Paradox]11

    We know media are wrong in our field of expertise, yet on other topics we trust them [Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect]12

    the same person often advocates government regulations in areas in which they are ignorant and opposes them in areas where they have knowledge13. I call this the “Vodnoy Paradox.” [Source]

    Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing [O’Sullivan] [Robert Conquest]:14

  85. @Hypnotoad666
    @Wilkey

    The 1971 Duke Power v. Griggs case and the doctrine of "disparate impact" that it created effectively banned the use of anything resembling an IQ test in hiring decisions. Thus, instead of using a cheap, efficient, and highly effective tool to select suitable candidates (as the military does), employers have had to rely on paper credentials like degrees and prior experience.

    Shutting out bright applicants who happen to be inexperienced and uncredentialed has undoubtedly done immense harm to the fairness and efficiency of the labor market. The resources wasted over the decades in piling up pointless degrees must be astronomical.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @epochehusserl

    The 1971 Duke Power v. Griggs case and the doctrine of “disparate impact” that it created effectively banned the use of anything resembling an IQ test in hiring decisions. Thus, instead of using a cheap, efficient, and highly effective tool to select suitable candidates (as the military does), employers have had to rely on paper credentials like degrees and prior experience.

    You know, somewhere in the ether a left winger is reading this comment, and resolves “don’t worry, we’ll get to the military soon enough.”

  86. @216
    Verified Hate

    https://twitter.com/profit30/status/1307818135546998785

    Replies: @Stebbing Heuer, @vinteuil, @vinteuil

    Oh, and…this cousin of his belongs in the lowest circle of Hell, embedded forever in the ice that can never melt, and that burns like fire:

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @vinteuil

    Youtube comments for the video you posted ===


    Irony
    10 hours ago
    "It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy."
    George Orwell, 1984

    muuanmies
    5 hours ago
    (Same) also happened in the China's cultural revolution+
     

  87. @res
    @Jack D


    Most human mating is more or less random or driven by physical traits such as a preference for lighter hair and skin but not directed toward breeding smarter or dumber humans, so most human populations remain more or less level in intelligence.
     
    Perhaps more less random than more random.
    https://phys.org/news/2017-01-evidence-humans-partners-assortative.html

    For example.

    The researchers didn't just look at physical traits, they also examined assortative mating in other traits, such as years in education. For this, they turned to a British database and examined 7 780 couples. They looked for concordance amongst partners in genetic markers previously linked to years of education and found an impressively high correlation.

     

    Even more emphatically.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/mp2014105
    Genetics and intelligence differences: five special findings

    Assortative mating is far greater for intelligence than for most other traits. For example, assortative mating is about 0.20 for height68 and for weight,69 and about 0.10 for personality.70 For intelligence, assortative mating is about 0.40.19,71 Moreover, verbal intelligence shows greater assortative mating (~0.50) than nonverbal intelligence (~0.30), perhaps because it is easier to gauge someone’s verbal ability such as vocabulary than their nonverbal intelligence such as spatial ability. Assortative mating for intelligence is caused by initial selection of a mate (assortment) rather than by couples becoming more similar to each other after living together (convergence).72,73 In part, spouses select each other for intelligence on the basis of education—spouses correlate about 0.60 for years of education19—which correlates about 0.45 with intelligence.50
     

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Jack D

    I was referring more to the past when most people outside the aristocracy and the clergy did not receive education beyond the primary level, if that, so assorting by education would not have really been possible. Of course there was sorting by religion, social and economic class, occupation, etc. which would have had some of the same effect. In the US today, the assorting by education push is strong – in the case of Ashkenazi Jews, it even exceeds the assortment by religion but that was not true until quite recently.

    There were other groups beside the Ashkenazi Jews, such as the Brahmins of India, where there was evolutionary push toward higher IQ. The Jews just seem to be a particularly notable example, producing Nobelists, billionaires and other high IQ types at perhaps 10x their frequency in the general population.

  88. @Hypnotoad666
    @Wilkey

    The 1971 Duke Power v. Griggs case and the doctrine of "disparate impact" that it created effectively banned the use of anything resembling an IQ test in hiring decisions. Thus, instead of using a cheap, efficient, and highly effective tool to select suitable candidates (as the military does), employers have had to rely on paper credentials like degrees and prior experience.

    Shutting out bright applicants who happen to be inexperienced and uncredentialed has undoubtedly done immense harm to the fairness and efficiency of the labor market. The resources wasted over the decades in piling up pointless degrees must be astronomical.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @epochehusserl

    I worked for a student loan collection agency and I have first hand knowledge of the enormous waste in our credentialing factories. In the last 10 years the collection agencies stopped expecting people to pay and merely rolled the loan onto another ledger.

  89. @Jim Don Bob
    The woman is a prime example of everything that is wrong with SCOTUS in particular and liberals in general.

    Replies: @Gianni in Guernsey, @David In TN

    It’s the exact same principle well off liberals used for school busing. They would be all for white working class kids being bussed, while sending their own children to virtually all white private schools.

    Thirty years ago I knew a man who was from Boston. This was after the 1988 election in which Brookline liberal Mike Dukakis went down to defeat despite a 15-point lead after the convention. The Bush 41 team opened up on Willie Horton, ACLU, etc.

    I asked my friend from Boston why the Brookline-Massachusetts liberals were so hypocritical. He replied, “They are liberal until it touches them.”

    The above phrase describes RBG.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @David In TN


    It’s the exact same principle well off liberals used for school busing. They would be all for white working class kids being bussed, while sending their own children to virtually all white private schools.
    I asked my friend from Boston why the Brookline-Massachusetts liberals were so hypocritical. He replied, “They are liberal until it touches them.”
     
    You are a bit off there. The judge who ordered and presided over Boston school bussing, infamous judge Arthur Garrity Jr., lived in a very wealthy suburb. It was Wellesley or one next to it. The public schools are/were excellent in these suburbs so his children probably attended them.
    https://sojourningboston.blogspot.com/2008/06/boston-anti-busing-riot-1976.html

    Replies: @David In TN

  90. @Wilkey
    But Ginsburg’s attitude is commonplace among members of the legal profession in general. Lawyers who have to attend college, graduate from law school, and pass a bar exam - passing several hundred other tests on the way to that bar exam - sue businesses left and right when those businesses require applicants to pass tests in order to qualify for a job, or when those tests are passed at different rates by those or different races. How very condescending Ginsburg and so many of her fellow lawyers are to assume her profession requires intelligent employees but not firefighting or other blue collar careers. It’s an attitude that has and will continue to cost this country dearly. Most of our competitors in Asia don’t have to put up with this shit.

    Replies: @MarkinLA, @Mr. Anon, @Hypnotoad666, @AnotherDad

    But Ginsburg’s attitude is commonplace among members of the legal profession in general. Lawyers who have to attend college, graduate from law school, and pass a bar exam – passing several hundred other tests on the way to that bar exam – sue businesses left and right when those businesses require applicants to pass tests in order to qualify for a job, or when those tests are passed at different rates by those or different races. How very condescending Ginsburg and so many of her fellow lawyers are to assume her profession requires intelligent employees but not firefighting or other blue collar careers. It’s an attitude that has and will continue to cost this country dearly. Most of our competitors in Asia don’t have to put up with this shit.

    Arrogance.

    That’s the key word. Amazingly the arrogance of people who know little and have done nothing.

    We saw that same arrogance in spades in Griggs: Lawyering, oh yes, there intelligence matters.
    But why do you need any intelligence, for something trivial like operating a power plant?

    In actuality almost the reverse is often true. There are very complicated areas of law–ex. tax law–where i’d be way out of my depth. (Congress has larded up the tax code, and it takes years of study and practice to know in the ins and outs.) But deciding Constitutional questions is pretty straightforward. The Constitution is short, straightforward and it’s usually quite obvious where the relevant question is supposed to be decided.

    Yet the Supremes continually get those questions wrong. And often justify their getting wrong with pompous airy nonsense. Sometime just laughably bad nonsense (Roe). Because in their arrogance, they imagine themselves to be brilliant arbiters of what should be–just oh so special philosopher kings that republican governance must be tossed aside in favor of their “wisdom”.

    Arrogance.

  91. @newrouter
    How many of RBG's clerks were Jewish?

    Replies: @Mike P., @Mr McKenna, @Buzz Mohawk

    Jews are just white people. Shut up and eat your shiksa.

    • LOL: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Wait a minute: is this thread about RBG or David Brooks?

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  92. @Anon

    her IQ snobbery meant she underrated cognitive demands of jobs like fire captain, some of which have become vastly more technical over Ginsburg’s lifetime.
     
    Although the stakes are not always that high, higher IQ workers even in menial jobs perform measurably better. Smarter ditch diggers, ceteris paribus, perform better than dumber ones. Maybe ditch diggers are scrupulously trained to recognize gas lines, but their employer didn't think to clue them in about signs of priceless archeological sites. The smarter ones may think, "Maybe I should ask about this." This sort of thing is one of Linda Gottfredson's pet peeves. IQ is not just for the right tail.

    Replies: @martin_2

    I owned and managed a cleaning business for many years. I would sooner work with a seventeen year old schoolboy with an IQ of 105 who had never so much as tidied his room than with a woman of forty five with an IQ of 75 who had been working as a cleaner all her adult life. I took one out with me one day whose IQ was even lower and had to take her home again after a couple of hours before she burnt the house we were in down.

  93. @Stebbing Heuer
    @216

    'White supremacist'

    Memo to white Americans: if you don't start standing up for each other, the left are going to enslave and kill you.

    Replies: @Realist, @216

    Most conservatives have yet to cut their:

    -Cable
    -Netflix
    -Dead tree media
    -Sportsball

    With ratings dropping on the latter, we might see the start of something; but our people have to understand the concept of “collective self defense”

  94. @Stan Adams
    @Wilkey

    Define Hispanic.

    Trump already has the Cuban vote. Mexicans in California and Puerto Ricans in New York aren't going to vote for him because he wants to nominate a Miami-born Cuban woman to the Supreme Court.

    The other day I got into a conversation with a pro-Trump boomer and he started telling me about his younger Venezuelan wife. Her family fled the country after Chavez took power. Even with her first-hand knowledge of the joys of living in a socialist paradise, she's ardently pro-Biden. The lockdowns have wiped out her jewelry business and she blames Trump.

    Replies: @Redman, @Clyde

    Younger Venezuelan wife, turns into a Biden voter with no common sense. Good account.

  95. @David In TN
    @Jim Don Bob

    It's the exact same principle well off liberals used for school busing. They would be all for white working class kids being bussed, while sending their own children to virtually all white private schools.

    Thirty years ago I knew a man who was from Boston. This was after the 1988 election in which Brookline liberal Mike Dukakis went down to defeat despite a 15-point lead after the convention. The Bush 41 team opened up on Willie Horton, ACLU, etc.

    I asked my friend from Boston why the Brookline-Massachusetts liberals were so hypocritical. He replied, "They are liberal until it touches them."

    The above phrase describes RBG.

    Replies: @Clyde

    It’s the exact same principle well off liberals used for school busing. They would be all for white working class kids being bussed, while sending their own children to virtually all white private schools.
    I asked my friend from Boston why the Brookline-Massachusetts liberals were so hypocritical. He replied, “They are liberal until it touches them.”

    You are a bit off there. The judge who ordered and presided over Boston school bussing, infamous judge Arthur Garrity Jr., lived in a very wealthy suburb. It was Wellesley or one next to it. The public schools are/were excellent in these suburbs so his children probably attended them.
    https://sojourningboston.blogspot.com/2008/06/boston-anti-busing-riot-1976.html

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Clyde

    My recollection is reading in the press that Garrity's children attended all white private schools at the time.

    Replies: @Clyde

  96. @vinteuil
    @216

    Oh, and...this cousin of his belongs in the lowest circle of Hell, embedded forever in the ice that can never melt, and that burns like fire:

    https://youtu.be/ElhndNnlBdk

    Replies: @Clyde

    Youtube comments for the video you posted ===

    Irony
    10 hours ago
    “It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.”
    George Orwell, 1984

    muuanmies
    5 hours ago
    (Same) also happened in the China’s cultural revolution+

    • Thanks: HammerJack, vinteuil
  97. @Jack D
    @Alec Leamas Remote

    Since this was a dissent by Ginsburg, the ethnics got taken down zero pegs. Keep in mind that in recent years, the Supreme Ct has been overwhelmingly Catholic, so it would be very strange for it to be hostile to (mostly Catholic) Italians and Irish. If you hang around here you might have the impression that the Court is 100% Jewish and that Ginsburg was the leader of the cabal. Nothing could be further from the truth. And it appears that Trump is most likely to nominate yet another Catholic. It's hard (at least for me) to understand how Catholics came to dominate the court and with so little notice or backlash. Back in the day, WNs hated BOTH Catholics and Jews but now they seem to reserve all their ire for the Jews.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Paleo Liberal

    In the North, the Second Klan was primarily anti-Catholic, although they weren’t so keen on Jews.

    And the Second Klan was often larger and more popular in the North, especially Indiana (although one can debate as to just how Northern the Hoosiers are ).

  98. @Matt Buckalew
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Jack is what people at my country club call a Villanova Jew.

    I.e. my jewish lawyer’s kid is going to Villanova better look for a new lawyer.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas Remote, @Jack D

    Jack is what people at my country club call a Villanova Jew.

    I.e. my jewish lawyer’s kid is going to Villanova better look for a new lawyer.

    Merion? PCC?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Alec Leamas Remote

    Too much of nothin' can make a man feel ill at ease
    One man's temper might rise, while the other man's temper might freeze.
    In the days of long confessions, we can not mock a soul
    When there's too much of nothin', no one has control.

    Say hello to Valerie, say hello to Marion,
    Send them all my salary, on the waters of oblivion.

  99. @Gianni in Guernsey
    https://social.infogalactic.com/images/posts/b1f66f3c-6662-46a3-aa24-8a38249db588/original-45809089f4a8cd71a8651febc6172b19.jpeg?v=63767812900

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    Say hi to Vince Foster.

  100. @Buzz Mohawk
    @newrouter

    Jews are just white people. Shut up and eat your shiksa.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    Wait a minute: is this thread about RBG or David Brooks?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Gary in Gramercy

    LOL. I used that expression here a year or two ago, but you don't remember that. I noticed when you used the same expression in your comment about Brooks. As we both know, Woody Allen wrote it into Sleeper decades ago. It's a classic.

    You write some excellent comments, BTW.

    Replies: @Clyde

  101. @Clyde
    @David In TN


    It’s the exact same principle well off liberals used for school busing. They would be all for white working class kids being bussed, while sending their own children to virtually all white private schools.
    I asked my friend from Boston why the Brookline-Massachusetts liberals were so hypocritical. He replied, “They are liberal until it touches them.”
     
    You are a bit off there. The judge who ordered and presided over Boston school bussing, infamous judge Arthur Garrity Jr., lived in a very wealthy suburb. It was Wellesley or one next to it. The public schools are/were excellent in these suburbs so his children probably attended them.
    https://sojourningboston.blogspot.com/2008/06/boston-anti-busing-riot-1976.html

    Replies: @David In TN

    My recollection is reading in the press that Garrity’s children attended all white private schools at the time.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @David In TN


    My recollection is reading in the press that Garrity’s children attended all white private schools at the time.
     
    You might be right. Garrity is described as third generation Irish, so he screwed his own people who lived in Boston, not his Wellesley. An account I just read said Garrity's forced bussing destabilized Boston.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

  102. @res
    @Steve Sailer


    Paul Watford, is a Democratic-aligned moderate
     
    His JCS score is -0.358 which is right around the 2016 median for the Ninth Circuit Court he serves on. I'm not sure exactly what you meant by "Democratic-aligned moderate," but I would not refer to the Ninth Circuit Court as "moderate" and he appears to be a typical member.

    Replies: @Peripatetic Commenter

    Well, Trump has been changing the character of the 9th Circuit, and may have changed it totally by November 3.

  103. @Anon
    @Anonymous

    Thinking is too tactical here. Removing any Ivy older Wasp/Catholic or any Jew from the bench is combinatorially a step forward for the Court.

    If Cuban lady gets Trump re-elected then that is 1-2 more vacancies. Eventually the odds outweigh spergy Goursuch’s and Boomer Robert’s oddball rulings. They are spineless, so they will vote with majority anyway.

    Replies: @ATBOTL

    You’re thinking like a cuck. We do not want to give more power to Hispanics. We want more white Christians on the court. Where on earth do these cucks keep coming from? They pop up on every single thread here to argue that selling out is actually some kind of brilliant strategy.

    You would have thought that the last five years would have buried cuckservativsm, but it seems stronger than ever now. It’s horrifying that so many commenters on dissident right websites still think like this.

    Does this clown really think that nominating a Hispanic to the court will get more Hispanics to vote for Trump? Most voters don’t pay any attention to this kind of thing and the ones who do follow politics closely are all partisans whose votes will not change over it. The only effect this would have would be to make some alt-right voters who are sick of the Hispanic invasion stay home, and not only in Florida.

    The cucking never stops.

  104. “Ruth Bader Ginsburg was a human biodiversity race realist about hiring for the kind of jobs she knew best — law clerks (for which she only hired 1 black out of ~150).”

    More like her progressive jurisprudence on racial justice did not show up in her own chambers due to her old-boy-and-girl networks. It assuredly is a black mark on her stellar career. Of course, Mr. Sailer. you are correctly pointing out she did not practice what she preached. Yet, per usual, you are very selective in NOTICING hypocrisy –> “I want you to use my words against me. If there’s a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let’s let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination.”

    • Troll: William Badwhite
  105. @Jack D
    @Anon

    The Jews weren't particularly known for their brilliance in antiquity. All the great minds were Greek.

    Christian elites in their lust for wealth and power have a way of creating unintended breeding experiments, such as breeding blacks to be big, dumb brutes with high fertility in order to serve as cheap labor for them. We all know how well that worked out. Another unintentional Christian created breeding experiment was to ban Jews from most occupations other than money lending and otherwise surviving by their wits.

    Most human mating is more or less random or driven by physical traits such as a preference for lighter hair and skin but not directed toward breeding smarter or dumber humans, so most human populations remain more or less level in intelligence. But we know from dog breeding (and other animals) that if you put a particular trait (including intelligence - there are smarter and dumber dog breeds too) under selection pressure you can achieve significant daylight between groups over relatively few generations and that is exactly what happened in the ghettos of Europe.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @res, @Kratoklastes

    that is exactly what happened in the ghettos of Europe

    That must be why everyone knows about Kosher Wakanda – i.e., the shtetls of Lithuania and Belarus…

    If the mythical (cherry-picked, US-centric) Ashkenazi IQ was actually σ higher on average, the hovel-dwellers of Kosher Wakanda would have been the foundational minds of the Enlightenment and the Industrial Revolution.

    Sadly, no.

    Gilad Atzmon is correct in his ‘cognitive bifurcation’ hypothesis as it applies to the Jews – but it was entirely a Western European phenomenon. The Eastern European ones had barely learned to wipe their own asses by the time they flooded into Western Europe in the 1800s – and literally everybody noticed how dirty and stupid they were.

    In the East (where the Yank Ashkenazim have their roots) they were dumber than a bag of rocks – which is why the Western European rabbinate gave Zionism short shrift (and so Herzl et al. had to go ‘beyond the Pale’ to find a rabbi backward enough to give a rabbinical imprimatur for their nonsense).

  106. @Matt Buckalew
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Jack is what people at my country club call a Villanova Jew.

    I.e. my jewish lawyer’s kid is going to Villanova better look for a new lawyer.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas Remote, @Jack D

    You can’t really control how smart your kids are. There are people who, God forbid, have kids that are mentally retarded (or whatever the PC term is this week) let alone Villanova students and I would never judge them.

    But, thank God, my kids graduated from Wharton and MIT (and I didn’t have to bribe anyone to get them in). Is that good enough for you?

    • Replies: @anon
    @Jack D

    Whoosh! The remark was about your parents and you, not you and your kids. Never pass up an opportunity to brag on the internet, though, right?

  107. @ex-banker
    @Fredrik

    I've heard the story a million times of Obama eschewing the big law route to become a community organizer, but wouldn't he have been a slam dunk for a major clerkship as the editor of HLR?

    Did he not want the grind of that job either?

    Replies: @MarkinLA, @Jim Don Bob

    BHO is lazy. He has never done a damned thing.

  108. @Alec Leamas Remote
    @Matt Buckalew


    Jack is what people at my country club call a Villanova Jew.

    I.e. my jewish lawyer’s kid is going to Villanova better look for a new lawyer.

     

    Merion? PCC?

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Too much of nothin’ can make a man feel ill at ease
    One man’s temper might rise, while the other man’s temper might freeze.
    In the days of long confessions, we can not mock a soul
    When there’s too much of nothin’, no one has control.

    Say hello to Valerie, say hello to Marion,
    Send them all my salary, on the waters of oblivion.

  109. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile dastardly villain Marco Rubio (Bush family operative) allied with Jared is pushing for the shaky Cuban lady scotus contender Lagoa to get the open scotus seat.

    Welp. Cernovich says the moderate Lagoa will be announced Tuesday.

    If true it's just further confirmation that

    JARED KUSHNER HAS "F*** THE BASE" TATTOOED ON HIS EYELIDS

    Down with the Kushnerists!

    God help the Deplorables!

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Anon, @epebble, @Joseph Doaks, @dvorak

    the shaky Cuban lady scotus contender Lagoa to get the open scotus seat

    Is she Catholic or evangelical?

    At least she’s not mainline Protestant like Gorsuch. Took him about two seconds as a Trump appointee until he decided “Black Trans Lives Matter!”

  110. @Gary in Gramercy
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Wait a minute: is this thread about RBG or David Brooks?

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    LOL. I used that expression here a year or two ago, but you don’t remember that. I noticed when you used the same expression in your comment about Brooks. As we both know, Woody Allen wrote it into Sleeper decades ago. It’s a classic.

    You write some excellent comments, BTW.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Buzz Mohawk


    As we both know, Woody Allen wrote it into Sleeper decades ago. It’s a classic.
    "Shut up and eat your shiksa"
     
    I never heard this line before but you and Gary don't get the joke. Kishka is a Jewish dish. I saw Sleeper ages ago but napped through half of it.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Gary in Gramercy

  111. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Gary in Gramercy

    LOL. I used that expression here a year or two ago, but you don't remember that. I noticed when you used the same expression in your comment about Brooks. As we both know, Woody Allen wrote it into Sleeper decades ago. It's a classic.

    You write some excellent comments, BTW.

    Replies: @Clyde

    As we both know, Woody Allen wrote it into Sleeper decades ago. It’s a classic.
    “Shut up and eat your shiksa”

    I never heard this line before but you and Gary don’t get the joke. Kishka is a Jewish dish. I saw Sleeper ages ago but napped through half of it.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Clyde


    Kishka is a Jewish dish.
     
    Yes, it is a sausage, but they have their own names for everything and claim them as their own. An attractive shiksa is also a Gentile "dish," BTW.

    Replies: @Clyde, @Jack D

    , @Gary in Gramercy
    @Clyde

    The first time I saw Sleeper was in 1973, in Wethersfield, Connecticut, when I was 11. My parents had moved us out of Brooklyn after the 1969 teachers' strike; we had lived in a bad neighborhood that was about to get a lot worse. As the voiceover in Sleeper intoned that the destructive war had started when "a man named Albert Shanker got ahold of a nuclear warhead," my mother and I started laughing loudly -- and everyone else in the theatre was dead silent. Shanker, the combative head of the American Federation of Teachers, had been the public face of the NYC teachers' strike, but no one outside New York knew his name. This was my useful introduction to the "inside joke."

    In college, I played on a trivia team, one of whose names was "My Second Favorite Organ." (Our other names were Python-derived.)

    Finally, in my third year of law school, I helped write and produce the Third Year Show, in which graduating students took pot shots at the school and its faculty. Ours was full of characters, and we missed no opportunity to mock them. I wrote one sketch -- cut from the show for lack of space, although bad taste was good enough reason to delete it -- in which a well-known professor, who bore a slight aural resemblance to Jerry Lewis in The Nutty Professor, took a spin in an Orgasmatron-like contraption to end a dating dry spell after a divorce.

    So: for you to suggest that I "didn't get" some joke from Sleeper is akin to blood libel. I would suggest pistols at dawn, but NYC gun control laws are very strict. I'm not even allowed to pass the following note: "I am pointing a gub at you. Please abt natural."

    How about kasha (not kishke; I lack the intestinal fortitude) at Katz's?

    Replies: @Johann Ricke, @Clyde

  112. @David In TN
    @Clyde

    My recollection is reading in the press that Garrity's children attended all white private schools at the time.

    Replies: @Clyde

    My recollection is reading in the press that Garrity’s children attended all white private schools at the time.

    You might be right. Garrity is described as third generation Irish, so he screwed his own people who lived in Boston, not his Wellesley. An account I just read said Garrity’s forced bussing destabilized Boston.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Clyde

    People like Garrity are called "Castle Irish".

  113. @Clyde
    @Buzz Mohawk


    As we both know, Woody Allen wrote it into Sleeper decades ago. It’s a classic.
    "Shut up and eat your shiksa"
     
    I never heard this line before but you and Gary don't get the joke. Kishka is a Jewish dish. I saw Sleeper ages ago but napped through half of it.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Gary in Gramercy

    Kishka is a Jewish dish.

    Yes, it is a sausage, but they have their own names for everything and claim them as their own. An attractive shiksa is also a Gentile “dish,” BTW.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Buzz Mohawk

    And a bite more from wikipedia


    "Who Stole the Kishka?" (originally spelled "Who Stole the Keeshka?") is a polka tune, composed in the 1950s by Walter Solek and recorded and played by various bands. One popular version was familiar to American radio audiences from a 1963 recording by Grammy award-winning polka artist Frankie Yankovic.
    Depending on the performer, the song can also include references to other Polish foods such as shinka, krusczyki, pierogi, serniczki and kielbasa.
     
    , @Jack D
    @Buzz Mohawk

    You have this a little bit scrambled.

    #1 - European Jews generally DIDN'T have their own names for everything. Usually they borrowed the names freely from the local language and the recipes from a local dish, altered if necessary for kosher reasons. Being down on cultural appropriation was not a thing in those days. Kiszka is a Polish word for intestine.

    #2 Jewish style kishke is a sausage but it's an unusual one because it's part of the Jewish cucina povera (the cuisine of the poor). Most sausages are filled with meat but kishke is a beef intestine filled with flour or ground up matzohs moistened with poultry fat and a little bit of spices. (It's not as bad as it sounds.) Flour is a lot cheaper than meat.

    #3 Jews claim these dishes as their own because they ARE their own - no one else wanted to eat them. Most Poles would fill their kiszka casing with coagulated blood or pig's liver but these were off limits to the Jews. Actually most typically the Poles will have many variations of a dish (each city and region will have their own) and the Jewish version matches the Polish version which happens not to contain any pork. Sometimes the arrow of causation is in the other direction, as when the Poles eat "Jewish carp". Since the ethnic Poles and the Jews lived side by side for hundreds of years, sometimes it's hard to figure out who stole which dish from who.

    Replies: @Clyde

  114. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Clyde


    Kishka is a Jewish dish.
     
    Yes, it is a sausage, but they have their own names for everything and claim them as their own. An attractive shiksa is also a Gentile "dish," BTW.

    Replies: @Clyde, @Jack D

    And a bite more from wikipedia

    “Who Stole the Kishka?” (originally spelled “Who Stole the Keeshka?”) is a polka tune, composed in the 1950s by Walter Solek and recorded and played by various bands. One popular version was familiar to American radio audiences from a 1963 recording by Grammy award-winning polka artist Frankie Yankovic.
    Depending on the performer, the song can also include references to other Polish foods such as shinka, krusczyki, pierogi, serniczki and kielbasa.

  115. @Clyde
    @Buzz Mohawk


    As we both know, Woody Allen wrote it into Sleeper decades ago. It’s a classic.
    "Shut up and eat your shiksa"
     
    I never heard this line before but you and Gary don't get the joke. Kishka is a Jewish dish. I saw Sleeper ages ago but napped through half of it.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Gary in Gramercy

    The first time I saw Sleeper was in 1973, in Wethersfield, Connecticut, when I was 11. My parents had moved us out of Brooklyn after the 1969 teachers’ strike; we had lived in a bad neighborhood that was about to get a lot worse. As the voiceover in Sleeper intoned that the destructive war had started when “a man named Albert Shanker got ahold of a nuclear warhead,” my mother and I started laughing loudly — and everyone else in the theatre was dead silent. Shanker, the combative head of the American Federation of Teachers, had been the public face of the NYC teachers’ strike, but no one outside New York knew his name. This was my useful introduction to the “inside joke.”

    In college, I played on a trivia team, one of whose names was “My Second Favorite Organ.” (Our other names were Python-derived.)

    Finally, in my third year of law school, I helped write and produce the Third Year Show, in which graduating students took pot shots at the school and its faculty. Ours was full of characters, and we missed no opportunity to mock them. I wrote one sketch — cut from the show for lack of space, although bad taste was good enough reason to delete it — in which a well-known professor, who bore a slight aural resemblance to Jerry Lewis in The Nutty Professor, took a spin in an Orgasmatron-like contraption to end a dating dry spell after a divorce.

    So: for you to suggest that I “didn’t get” some joke from Sleeper is akin to blood libel. I would suggest pistols at dawn, but NYC gun control laws are very strict. I’m not even allowed to pass the following note: “I am pointing a gub at you. Please abt natural.”

    How about kasha (not kishke; I lack the intestinal fortitude) at Katz’s?

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    @Gary in Gramercy


    As the voiceover in Sleeper intoned that the destructive war had started when “a man named Albert Shanker got ahold of a nuclear warhead,” my mother and I started laughing loudly — and everyone else in the theatre was dead silent.
     
    For the longest time, I thought it was weird that the character's name was the same as the AFT head's. In my innocence, I thought it was just a weird coincidence. Thanks for clearing this up.
    , @Clyde
    @Gary in Gramercy

    I super appreciate your accounting that I cannot come close to. _____ So thanks! ______ I have eaten at Katz's many times, 30?, though last was 1993. Their superior pastrami or corned beef got boring so my new go to (back then) was their unparalleled knockwurst with sauerkraut and two slices seeded rye bread.

  116. @Gary in Gramercy
    @Clyde

    The first time I saw Sleeper was in 1973, in Wethersfield, Connecticut, when I was 11. My parents had moved us out of Brooklyn after the 1969 teachers' strike; we had lived in a bad neighborhood that was about to get a lot worse. As the voiceover in Sleeper intoned that the destructive war had started when "a man named Albert Shanker got ahold of a nuclear warhead," my mother and I started laughing loudly -- and everyone else in the theatre was dead silent. Shanker, the combative head of the American Federation of Teachers, had been the public face of the NYC teachers' strike, but no one outside New York knew his name. This was my useful introduction to the "inside joke."

    In college, I played on a trivia team, one of whose names was "My Second Favorite Organ." (Our other names were Python-derived.)

    Finally, in my third year of law school, I helped write and produce the Third Year Show, in which graduating students took pot shots at the school and its faculty. Ours was full of characters, and we missed no opportunity to mock them. I wrote one sketch -- cut from the show for lack of space, although bad taste was good enough reason to delete it -- in which a well-known professor, who bore a slight aural resemblance to Jerry Lewis in The Nutty Professor, took a spin in an Orgasmatron-like contraption to end a dating dry spell after a divorce.

    So: for you to suggest that I "didn't get" some joke from Sleeper is akin to blood libel. I would suggest pistols at dawn, but NYC gun control laws are very strict. I'm not even allowed to pass the following note: "I am pointing a gub at you. Please abt natural."

    How about kasha (not kishke; I lack the intestinal fortitude) at Katz's?

    Replies: @Johann Ricke, @Clyde

    As the voiceover in Sleeper intoned that the destructive war had started when “a man named Albert Shanker got ahold of a nuclear warhead,” my mother and I started laughing loudly — and everyone else in the theatre was dead silent.

    For the longest time, I thought it was weird that the character’s name was the same as the AFT head’s. In my innocence, I thought it was just a weird coincidence. Thanks for clearing this up.

  117. @Clyde
    @David In TN


    My recollection is reading in the press that Garrity’s children attended all white private schools at the time.
     
    You might be right. Garrity is described as third generation Irish, so he screwed his own people who lived in Boston, not his Wellesley. An account I just read said Garrity's forced bussing destabilized Boston.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

    People like Garrity are called “Castle Irish”.

  118. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Clyde


    Kishka is a Jewish dish.
     
    Yes, it is a sausage, but they have their own names for everything and claim them as their own. An attractive shiksa is also a Gentile "dish," BTW.

    Replies: @Clyde, @Jack D

    You have this a little bit scrambled.

    #1 – European Jews generally DIDN’T have their own names for everything. Usually they borrowed the names freely from the local language and the recipes from a local dish, altered if necessary for kosher reasons. Being down on cultural appropriation was not a thing in those days. Kiszka is a Polish word for intestine.

    #2 Jewish style kishke is a sausage but it’s an unusual one because it’s part of the Jewish cucina povera (the cuisine of the poor). Most sausages are filled with meat but kishke is a beef intestine filled with flour or ground up matzohs moistened with poultry fat and a little bit of spices. (It’s not as bad as it sounds.) Flour is a lot cheaper than meat.

    #3 Jews claim these dishes as their own because they ARE their own – no one else wanted to eat them. Most Poles would fill their kiszka casing with coagulated blood or pig’s liver but these were off limits to the Jews. Actually most typically the Poles will have many variations of a dish (each city and region will have their own) and the Jewish version matches the Polish version which happens not to contain any pork. Sometimes the arrow of causation is in the other direction, as when the Poles eat “Jewish carp”. Since the ethnic Poles and the Jews lived side by side for hundreds of years, sometimes it’s hard to figure out who stole which dish from who.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Jack D

    Thanks! An accurate Pole/Jewish cuisine accounting plus Jewish v kishka was called (aka) stuffed derma. Perhaps this was non threatening to the American children? My face was practically shoved into the plate to make me eat stuffed derma. But it was OK (in retrospect a treasure) after a day on the ski slopes.

  119. @Gary in Gramercy
    @Clyde

    The first time I saw Sleeper was in 1973, in Wethersfield, Connecticut, when I was 11. My parents had moved us out of Brooklyn after the 1969 teachers' strike; we had lived in a bad neighborhood that was about to get a lot worse. As the voiceover in Sleeper intoned that the destructive war had started when "a man named Albert Shanker got ahold of a nuclear warhead," my mother and I started laughing loudly -- and everyone else in the theatre was dead silent. Shanker, the combative head of the American Federation of Teachers, had been the public face of the NYC teachers' strike, but no one outside New York knew his name. This was my useful introduction to the "inside joke."

    In college, I played on a trivia team, one of whose names was "My Second Favorite Organ." (Our other names were Python-derived.)

    Finally, in my third year of law school, I helped write and produce the Third Year Show, in which graduating students took pot shots at the school and its faculty. Ours was full of characters, and we missed no opportunity to mock them. I wrote one sketch -- cut from the show for lack of space, although bad taste was good enough reason to delete it -- in which a well-known professor, who bore a slight aural resemblance to Jerry Lewis in The Nutty Professor, took a spin in an Orgasmatron-like contraption to end a dating dry spell after a divorce.

    So: for you to suggest that I "didn't get" some joke from Sleeper is akin to blood libel. I would suggest pistols at dawn, but NYC gun control laws are very strict. I'm not even allowed to pass the following note: "I am pointing a gub at you. Please abt natural."

    How about kasha (not kishke; I lack the intestinal fortitude) at Katz's?

    Replies: @Johann Ricke, @Clyde

    I super appreciate your accounting that I cannot come close to. _____ So thanks! ______ I have eaten at Katz’s many times, 30?, though last was 1993. Their superior pastrami or corned beef got boring so my new go to (back then) was their unparalleled knockwurst with sauerkraut and two slices seeded rye bread.

  120. @Jack D
    @Buzz Mohawk

    You have this a little bit scrambled.

    #1 - European Jews generally DIDN'T have their own names for everything. Usually they borrowed the names freely from the local language and the recipes from a local dish, altered if necessary for kosher reasons. Being down on cultural appropriation was not a thing in those days. Kiszka is a Polish word for intestine.

    #2 Jewish style kishke is a sausage but it's an unusual one because it's part of the Jewish cucina povera (the cuisine of the poor). Most sausages are filled with meat but kishke is a beef intestine filled with flour or ground up matzohs moistened with poultry fat and a little bit of spices. (It's not as bad as it sounds.) Flour is a lot cheaper than meat.

    #3 Jews claim these dishes as their own because they ARE their own - no one else wanted to eat them. Most Poles would fill their kiszka casing with coagulated blood or pig's liver but these were off limits to the Jews. Actually most typically the Poles will have many variations of a dish (each city and region will have their own) and the Jewish version matches the Polish version which happens not to contain any pork. Sometimes the arrow of causation is in the other direction, as when the Poles eat "Jewish carp". Since the ethnic Poles and the Jews lived side by side for hundreds of years, sometimes it's hard to figure out who stole which dish from who.

    Replies: @Clyde

    Thanks! An accurate Pole/Jewish cuisine accounting plus Jewish v kishka was called (aka) stuffed derma. Perhaps this was non threatening to the American children? My face was practically shoved into the plate to make me eat stuffed derma. But it was OK (in retrospect a treasure) after a day on the ski slopes.

  121. @Jack D
    @Matt Buckalew

    You can't really control how smart your kids are. There are people who, God forbid, have kids that are mentally retarded (or whatever the PC term is this week) let alone Villanova students and I would never judge them.

    But, thank God, my kids graduated from Wharton and MIT (and I didn't have to bribe anyone to get them in). Is that good enough for you?

    Replies: @anon

    Whoosh! The remark was about your parents and you, not you and your kids. Never pass up an opportunity to brag on the internet, though, right?

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