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Elizabeth Warren’s Good Judgment, Part MCXXVI: She refers to “Latinx families,” because who doesn’t love the word “Latinx”?

By the way, if you are wondering how to pronounce “Latinx,” she says “Latin-ex,” as if the families used to be Latin but now they aren’t anymore.

So now you know.

Next, she’ll discuss the financial problems not only of Latinx families, but of Latinx husbands and their Latinx wives.

When Senator Warren is President, she will refer to southwestern states as Californx, Nevadx, and Arizonx to not be sexist.

She’ll award Elon Musk a medal for degenderizing the formerly phallic business of rocketry with his SpaceX.

 
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  1. Thank for your posting this, but I still say she is wrong.

    Normally you would default to what an actual Latinx person says, but they don’t believe in the word.

    Therefore, in keeping with the pronunciation of Latino and Latina, I pronounce it La-TEEN-ex.

  2. Hail says: • Website

    It sounds like she’s saying “Latin-icks” in that rehearsed, set-piece commercial.

    A few months ago, I recall seeing her say “Latin-X” with a stronger ‘X’ (like X-Men, Malcom X, American History X). So she’s been coached out of the Hard X by October.

    Here is a clip of her saying Latinx from the first debate (June 26) (0:15):

    Either (Latin-icks, Latin-X) is at least better than the vaguely disturbing ‘Lah-TINKS.’

    • Replies: @syonredux
    , @Ragno
  3. Ed says:

    It’s clear that she has no real experience with a Hispanic person (Hispanic itself has little meaning to folks from Latin America). She’s so indicative of white liberals their love for minorities is more about upsetting conservative whites then any real affection or intimacy with minority groups.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • LOL: Autochthon
    • Replies: @nebulafox
  4. syonredux says:
    @Hail

    Either (Latin-icks, Latin-X) is at least better than the vaguely disturbing ‘Lah-TINKS.’

    As I said in another post, that’s why “Lah-tinks” is the best choice.It gives us the chance to insult the PC crowd.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Jon
  5. Lateen-x? No no, muy disrespect. Eees “La-teeenks” mang.

  6. Alfa158 says:

    I always thought it was latinks because I have never heard anyone actually use the word un-ironically. Not even any of the veins-popping-out-of-the-forehead Leftists I know personally have ever used it so, I had no idea how it is supposed to be pronounced.

  7. Hail says: • Website
    @syonredux

    As I said in another post

    For those interested, see this comment by Anon[826] and the replies to it.

    I really went all out with the term at an academic conference I attended last year:

    “Latinx language,” “Latinx literature,” “Latinx author Carlos Fuentes,” “Latinxity,” “Latinxness,” etc. You gotta take your victories where you can get ’em…..And getting a chance to call a HATE-YT Mexican prof Latinx to his face was a definite win….

    Honorary LOL button.

  8. Anonymous[258] • Disclaimer says:

    Can a member of the X-Men be Latinx? They already have female personnel IIRC. Are any of these ex-men? I haven’t kept up

  9. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    Most senior faculty have studied latin traditionally…

  10. Gunner says:

    How do white libtards get away with renaming an entire ethnic group against the desire of the vast majority of said group? Can we just start calling Chinese people Chang Changs for the lols?

  11. Latinx. The Hispanic Black Muslims.

  12. By the way, if you are wondering how to pronounce “Latinx,” she says “Latin-ex,” as if the families used to be Latin but now they aren’t anymore.

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/454602.pdf?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

    Liz grew up with these:

    https://www.kotex.com.my/-/media/kotexmy/home-page/prod_img4.ashx

    Better, methinks:

    • LOL: SafeNow
    • Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter
  13. What’s the Muslima perspective on the Latinx Question?

    • Replies: @Pericles
  14. Rich says:

    This chick comes out for every group but Whitey. She really doesn’t want the Pale vote. With those high cheekbones, I wonder of maybe she’s one of those hostile Indians? Maybe we should look into her history, find out if she’s a Comanchx or Apachx or maybe a Siouxx.

    • LOL: Cortes
    • Replies: @Laurence Whelk
  15. @Dan Hayes

    Ex-Lax

    A agent friend who was transferred from Los Angeles International to her hometown airport said that was the epithet used for people in her situation.

    • LOL: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Rohirrimborn
  16. anon[282] • Disclaimer says:

    tbh, I thought he pronunciation sounded more like Latin-icks than Latin-ex. Clunky either way of course.

  17. songbird says:

    Does she know the full gay-lesbian-etc string by heart?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @TelfoedJohn
  18. tertius says:

    Do Latinas really make less than white males? Should’ve left a bigger tip at the Holiday Inn Express and not paid my Accountant. Does anyone ever ask if Latinas make less than white females? The VP at Goldman Sachs should be making the exact same salary as her Guatemalan housekeeper.

  19. Are you feeling down, depressed and confused about your sexuality? Do you wonder if you are White or not? Did your mother sneak across the border and give birth to you in a Texas desert?

    Then you need Latinx™.

    Latinx™ is a new, once-a-day dosage that will pick you up and clear the mental processes oriented around unpacking your gender and ethnic identity.

    Latinx works on the PC centers of your brain and gonads to re-center your sexual and ethic identity, all in one pill available by prescription. Ask your Doctorx about Lintinx™ You’ll be glad you did, Senioritx!

    ¡Me Gusta Latinx!

  20. newrouter says:

    >as Californx,<

    I'm partial to Californthey.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  21. @Buzz Mohawk

    Schwarzenegger could endorse Latinx in the commercials.

  22. @songbird

    The Democratic debates should have a Final Jeopardy type question where each candidate tries to write down the most terms in the longest LGBT etc. acronym they can think. The nominee will be the candidate who can come up with the longest string.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin, Bubba
    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    , @Harry Baldwin
  23. Anon[370] • Disclaimer says:

    A few months ago I read an article on this pronunciation. There was absolutely no consensus, at least at that time. Lah TINKS was one of the pronunciations used. If the word origin odd tho substitute X for O/A, that makes the most sense.

  24. @newrouter

    I’m off to Californithey with a Manjoo on my knee!

  25. Escher says:

    What about Tex-Mex?

  26. Anonymous[389] • Disclaimer says:

    If only there was, in English, an adjective form of “Latin” with no suffix.

    • Agree: Mitchell Porter
    • LOL: Jon
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Bill Jones
  27. Hail says: • Website
    @Gunner

    How do white libtards get away with renaming an entire ethnic group against the desire of the vast majority of said group?

    The entirety of Spanish wikipedia has, as of today, exactly eight Resultados for “Latinx,” all pretty thin, as I’ll show below.

    The page ‘Latinx‘ itself does not exist, not even as a bare redirect to something like Latino (Estados Unidos) (on which, ‘Latinx’ gets zero hits).

    Wikipedia todavía no tiene una página llamada «Latinx».

    Comprueba si has escrito el nombre del artículo de forma correcta

    “Make sure you’ve written the name correctly”!

    _________

    Of the eight lonely appearances of ‘Latinx’ on the entire Spanish Wikipedia, six are footnote-citations to something in English (see below). The remaining two are:

    (1) On the page of Prof. Susana Chávez-Silverman (page created: Sept. 2019, translation from English).

    profesora de español, estudios latinoamericanos y de latinx en el Departamento de lenguas y literaturas romances en Pomona College

    (2) On Colgate University page’s “La vida en el campus” section:

    los habitantes de La Casa Pan-Latina Americana…forman parte de la comunidad latina en el campus y se enfocan en la toma de conciencia de Latinx.

    Note the racist/sexist wiki editor wrote “latina” twice in the same sentence as the “Latinx” appearance. What a bigot!

    The editor who added Colgate University’s ‘Latinx,’ the sole use that comes even close to being organic in Spanish, added it (on June 20, 2017) from IP address that traces to Colgate University in New York.

    [MORE]

    The six other appearances of Latinx on Spanish Wikipedia, all in citations to English material, are:

    – Meet Lido Pimienta, The Art Pop Warrior of the Latinx Underground;
    – Latinx Queer Film Series;
    – Latinx x SXSW 2017;
    – Melissa Fumero Credits Success to Her Cuban Parents». LatinX (en inglés);
    – Vida: Starz Rounds Out Cast For Latinx Drama Series;
    – Netflix Announces Live Action Latinx Family Comedy Series.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  28. Anon[332] • Disclaimer says:

    Warren has spent too much time on college campuses and she absorbs goofy student fads easily.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  29. Am I required to care?

    Or is “latinx” another currently au fait SJW formulation that if I wait long enough will fall out of fashion, to be replaced by something even more annoying.

    I’m sure it will. I’m going to wait for the new and improved language to be issued by the SJW Directorate.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  30. Anon[162] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes

    Spix would be another gender neutral option. At least everyone would know how to pronounce it.

  31. @Anon

    Goofy fads or not, Elizabeth Warren speaks and comes across in the same, odd manner as Peggy Noonan: somehow unreal, condescending and simplistic, more appropriate for a woman hosting a children’s TV show than one speaking to adults. I have always found them both annoying, regardless of their politics.

    • Replies: @TelfoedJohn
  32. If only there was, in English, an adjective form of “Latin” with no suffix.

    The best part is that the SJWs decided to obsess over the gendered form of the word. Without noticing that any derivation of “Latin” is still euro-centrically naming POC after the Italian tribe that founded Rome.

    • Replies: @jpp
  33. How do you pronounce Latinx? Ha! You figure it out.

    Whatever you decide, it’ll be wrong. In an extremely offensive way, I should add.

    Dance, gringo, dance!

    • Replies: @Kronos
  34. BenKenobi says:
    @Steve Sailer

    That’s a great sketch idea for that Unz-produced comedy shown I keep trying to meme into existence.

  35. By the way, if you are wondering how to pronounce “Latinx,” she says “Latin-ex,” as if the families used to be Latin but now they aren’t anymore.

    Wow — that’s so goofy!

    I presume it’s supposed to rhyme with “Kleenex”, but I’m sticking with the rhymes-with-high-jinks pronunciation.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  36. SafeNow says:

    Hola. The pronunciation rule in Spanish is that you accent the next to the last syllable, unless an accent mark tells you to do otherwise. Comprende? But the more general lesson from this is that this word is a new thing, and Warren’s learning days are over. Ditto Biden ditto Sanders. Learn stuff, Tulsi — exploit this advantage.

    • Replies: @Cortes
  37. @Steve Sailer

    How about they have to name the order of the intersectionality totem pole and explain the reasons for their ranking?

  38. MBlanc46 says:
    @Gunner

    Not all white libtards. Plenty of Latinx AA academics are involved in this.

    • Replies: @Gunner
    , @Reg Cæsar
  39. @Steve in Greensboro

    We could all be gay if our words were normal.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  40. Anonymous[918] • Disclaimer says:
    @ben tillman

    By the way, if you are wondering how to pronounce “Latinx,” she says “Latin-ex,” as if the families used to be Latin but now they aren’t anymore.

    Steve may have gotten this wrong. She actually seems to be pronouncing it “Latin-icks”.

  41. Jon says:
    @syonredux

    Yeah, I am a big fan of the lah-tinks as well. And since few actual lah-tinkos use the word, you have plausible deniability because so few have heard it pronounced publicly.

  42. Whiskey says: • Website

    We really, really need to do something about our White women problem.

  43. fish says:
    @Gunner

    Can we just start calling Chinese people Chang Changs for the lols?

    Well I can see that you’ve missed the entire thrust of the article.

    They’re Chinx.

    WAIT……that can’t be right!

    • LOL: jim jones
  44. Gunner says:
    @MBlanc46

    I am sure 90% of those Latino/a/xyz academics are just doing it to see how much they can get honkys to debase themselves out of white guilt.

  45. Until I hear one of them speaking Latin, I’m sticking with “Chicano”.

    I know it’s not encompassing, but I don’t care. Hispanic and Latino are useless categories. Why not call everyone – white, yellow, brown, and black – who resides in a former British colony as Englishic or Englix?

  46. @Rich

    Maybe we should look into her history, find out if she’s a Comanchx or Apachx or maybe a Siouxx.

    I think she’s just a bitter dried up bitcx.

  47. jpp says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    That’s, incidentally, also my favorite part of the It’s-Native-American-not-Indian diatribe (no pun intended on the word ‘tribe’). Instead of naming America’s Indians after an honest and reasonable geographical mistake, or after a people whose skin color bears a non trivial similarity of shade to them (at least for Pakistanis, Punjabis, those in the north of the Asian Indian land mass) , let’s declare the only morally permissible, non appalling appellation for them to refer to an Italian explorer who helped facilitate the whole new world takeover.

  48. @Hail

    Comprueba si has escrito el nombre del artículo de forma correcta

    Wikipedia chides you using the familiar? How condescending of them.

    • LOL: Autochthon
  49. @Buzz Mohawk

    May I contribute this minor edit, and the Mexican version of Pat Boone’s Speedy Gonzalez, which I had no idea even existed, until today? It has 3.5 million views on YouTube, so it was obviously a popular song even with Latinexes.


    • LOL: BB753
  50. Hail says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    using the familiar? How condescending

    Maybe they can solve that problem by changing has to hax. Not just gender-neutral and LGBTX-friendly, but removing the implied choice of familiar-vs.-polite. All distinctions must go!

  51. @MBlanc46

    How do white libtards get away with renaming an entire ethnic group against the desire of the vast majority of said group?

    Not all white libtards. Plenty of Latinx AA academics are involved in this.

    They’re like the Indians who whine about “mascots”. They’ve spent too much time on those white man’s reservations we call academia.

    They don’t represent their race any more than the rotten-eggheads represent ours.

    • Agree: Kronos
    • Replies: @Kronos
  52. Kronos says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    “I support the right for trans women to receive abortions!”

    -Julián Castro

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/julian-castro-says-reproductive-justice-means-a-trans-female-can-get-an-abortion/

    You gotta feel kinda bad for these Democratic candidates. Nobody knows whats what and the media is ready to character assassinate anyone who disagrees/agrees with anything.

  53. Kronos says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I’d be curious to see how many foreign SJW professors are there. Maybe they came to the US after the Soviet Union collapsed?

  54. @Gunner

    Can we just start calling Chinese people Chang Changs for the lols?

    There had to be someone who allowed their inner racist to be unleashed. For shame.

    Personally, I am all about respect.

    Chinese people prefer to be called “Chinkee” or “Ching-Chong” – and if they’re over 50, “Hop Sing” or “The Craw” (not “The Craw“… “The Craw!!!“).

    For advanced japesters, we have a long-standing patois that we invented in the mid-90s in order to poke fun at the emerging ‘speech codes’ on campus. In that, we used the word “FISH!!” to describe the epicanthically-enhanced (i.e., anyone who could be blindfolded with dental floss or spider webs).

    The bold and exclamation point give an indication that it should always be ejaculated.

    Fish” is a homophone for an Armenian word meaning “power point” – which is a racist epithet directed at Asians in Australia, because our power-points look like this ->

    We had others – “Sev” for anyone darker than a Cypriot; “Tennesse” for an attractive woman. (Tennesse is derived from “tennelle” – which means both ‘to put’ and ‘to fuck’ in Armenian).

    • Replies: @BB753
    , @Reg Cæsar
    , @Anonymous
  55. Waiting for Warren to have a Biden Moment, and refer to “greasers”.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  56. Maybe they can solve that problem by changing has to hax.

    The queen of tough love:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolyn_Hax

  57. @Buzz Mohawk

    And the best part is that it only comes in suppository form!

  58. Paul says:

    Rather than “homo” are we now supposed to use the term “homx” instead?

  59. Medvedev says:

    From Pew Research findings on immigrants

    53% of Asian immigrants have bachelor degree or hire (and most, I presume, in a high-paying STEM).
    44% of European immigrants have BD or hire
    Only 7% of Mexican immigrants have BD or hire. 54% don’t even have high school diploma. If you consider how many may have forged or fake HS diplomas, real percentage of those who haven’t completed high school is even higher.

    Gee, I wonder why Mexican/Central Americans earn less then White Americans and waaaay less than Asian Americans. Could it be because a lot of them haven’t even completed high school?

  60. It is gratifying to see America welcome a whole new demographic whose native language spoken at home is Latin. We welcome each of them with a heart-felt “Te gratissimum!”*

    *For the transgendered, “Te gratissimam!”

  61. @songbird

    The B in LGBTetc refers to bi-sexual, ie two sexes, but all the letters after the B suggest that there’s more than two.

  62. 5371 says:

    Californix is probably the name of an Asterix character already.

  63. Prominent California democrats like Castro and Ed Buck prefer the term LA-twinks.

  64. @Buzz Mohawk

    Elizabeth Warren speaks and comes across in the same, odd manner as Peggy Noonan: somehow unreal, condescending and simplistic, more appropriate for a woman hosting a children’s TV show than one speaking to adults.

    The grade level of presidential speeches collapsed after women got the vote. Having said that, Trump is possibly the lowest scoring:

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Reg Cæsar
  65. @Buzz Mohawk

    Numero Uno comment so far. LOLing and in need of Kleenex.

  66. So, have I been wrong all this time thinking that it rhymes with ‘Stinks’?

  67. Pericles says:
    @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Surely it must be muslimx by now.

  68. Pericles says:
    @Redneck farmer

    “This happened um ackshually at the pool back on the rez …”

  69. Pericles says:

    It seems to me the proper pronounciation of ‘latinx’, if you speak Spanish, is ‘latino’.

    For future use by said speakers, I do believe it necessary to introduce ‘latinxo’ and ‘latinxa’.

    • LOL: fish
  70. Hail says: • Website
    @TelfoedJohn

    Interesting graph. Counterintuitively (or not?), it looks negatively correlated with average education of public.

    (I wonder what those two solitary-outlier 1974 and 1975 speeches were, delivered at graduate school level. Gerald Ford? Hmm.)

    Would be curious about a similar calculation for Unz writers. And maybe for iSteve commenters. But commenting in this medium is, like tweeting, an art form that lends itself to an optimum relatively lower on the scale, I’d think.

  71. Hail says: • Website

    When I become president, Latinx families will have a champion in the White House. #LatinxHeritageMonth

    Clicking on that #LatinxHeritageMonth hashtag, the top result Twitter feeds me is:

    Cynthia
    @scicyn (Cell and Molecular Biology MS candidate)
    Oct 28

    “No one uses the N-word more than (non-black) Latinos” a great listen #latinxheritagemonth (it’s been over but 🤷🏻‍♀️)

    [Episode Thirty-Two // CoGina Rodriguez]
    Latinx Heritage Month came in went, but not before some shenanigans from non-Black Latinxs. Oh, also the homonationalism from the white gays really …

    non-Black Latinxs

    Latinxs

    Oh, also the homonationalism from the white gays

    Is this satire? Not sure.

    But I am sure that ‘Homonationalism’ is a good one.

    An archive search says the term ‘homonationalism’ has never appeared on the hallowed pages of iSteve, though it did come up in two comments (one from Lot quoting a Dr. Salaita; one from Roderick Spode). John Derbyshire used it in a Sept. 2017 column title, but not in the same way this Latinx person is using it.

  72. Why doesn’t she just say “Latin” or “Latins” if she wants to go the non-gendered route? Those are perfectly good words.

  73. @Gunner

    Ching chong. A person from there is properly called a “ching chong.” Where do you get this “chang chang” nonsense?! Did you never spend any time on an elementary school’s playground back when the U.S.A. existed?

    “Ching ching playin’ ping pong with his ding dong” is the chant. What the Hell are you going to rhyme with “chang chang?!”

    • Replies: @Gunner
  74. jim jones says:

    I would suggest that people start using the term “cholo”

  75. Clyde says:

    I would pronounce it Lateenx and have the n run into the x, as in Latino

  76. Thea says:

    In Spanish the proper plural for a mixed group is Latinos so they never needed to do this to themselves.

    But I love that they did.

  77. Dan Hayes says:
    @Anon

    Anon[162]:

    Too Late for Spix. Something uncomfortably close to that has already been conferred on our Puerto Rican conferees!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  78. Flemur says:

    Latinxes are right about women.

  79. bob sykes says:

    It obviously rhymes with “lynx,” as in “latinks.”

    Be careful not to slur the word and say “lastinks.”

  80. @ScarletNumber

    It actually sounds like Warren elides the “i” to become lat’nex, quickly, like she herself is embarrassed of the silly word.

  81. @Reg Cæsar

    I’m a few months away from retiring from the federal government in which case I’ll be an Ex Fed.

  82. Are we sure Warren’s not Jewish? Not only does she check all the SJW and “money for me, not for thee” boxes, but she takes a kernel of truth and spins it into xenophobic, racist propaganda.

    Jews died in WWII; next thing ya know, we got a Holocaust. Trump has only deference and responsibility for American citizens, so that means he’s assaulting “Latinx” families across our nation.

    Warren’s implication is that foreigners in America must have the same rights and privileges as its citizens. If I’m watching this in Istanbul I’m buying the first ticket to Omaha.

  83. N.S. Palmer says: • Website

    Hispanics aren’t buying any of that “Latinx” foolishness, so Warren’s linguistic pandering either isn’t aimed at them, or it’s just for the benefit of non-Hispanic leftists.

    http://whysanepeoplebelievecrazythings.com/crazy-things-book-blog/?id=Latinx

  84. Svevlad says:

    *chad face*

    Latin. The name I use for them is Latin.

  85. @Reg Cæsar

    Wikipedia chides you using the familiar?

    In post-Franco Spain (as opposed to Latin America) it’s extraordinarily common, almost universal in fact, to use the “familiar” (2nd person singular) with strangers. Check out the Spanish web page for Amazon

    https://www.amazon.es/

    Even the Mexican site uses the familiar form:

    https://www.amazon.com.mx/

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  86. I guess we need a new word for the pandering white politicians–how about Woke-X?

    Southerners can pronounce it as Woo-kies.

    Bostonians can pronounce it as Walk-ers.

    For everyone else, it will be “just us wolkx”. 😉

    • Replies: @Rob McX
  87. BB753 says:

    The solution to Latinx problems? More Latinx! She’s a bloody genius!

  88. Rob McX says:

    The whole point of having politicians say ludicrous things like this is to make sure that anyone who gets into public office is compliant. One way to guarantee that a politician will comply with the agenda set for them by the powers that be is to make them say illogical and ridiculous things with a straight face. If they do that, they’ll do anything.

  89. DanFromCT says:

    Modern presidents are photographed in ten gallon hats, but with Warren or Hillary a more appropriate custom would be Madame President photographed in a 10-gallon Depends. Didn’t Hillary have to leave the debate stage for a diaper change?

  90. Anonymous[171] • Disclaimer says:

    You’ve come a long way, America, from presidents photographed in ten gallon hats to nasty old bags like Hillary or Warren in ten-gallon Depends. You go, America.

  91. @Gunner

    Because they rule and you don’t.

    Next question?

  92. @for-the-record

    In post-Franco Spain (as opposed to Latin America) it’s extraordinarily common, almost universal in fact, to use the “familiar” (2nd person singular) with strangers.

    Kind of like swearing in our mother country.

    This has been true in Scandinavia for even longer. Not so in Germany and France. They’re too busy lording it over the rest of the EU.

    Perhaps that explains some of the popularity of English among the young. We abandoned thou and ye ages ago.

    The Quakers got their wish, if not quite the way they wanted. We’re all Usted now, not tu.

  93. @Dan Hayes

    Too Late for Spix. Something uncomfortably close to that has already been conferred on our Puerto Rican conferees!

    a

    A USCG shipmate of mine had a Z-name and said his roots were in Spain. I took him at his word as he came off more like a Bronx Italian than anything else. He and a black crewmember were big into the disco-era Bee Gees, and were surprised that I wasn’t.

    I told them I preferred the Gibbs in their early days, of e.g. “Spicks and Specks”.

    The Spaniard didn’t miss a beat: “Yeah, I’m a spick and he’s a speck!”

  94. @Anonymous

    If only there was, in English, an adjective form of “Latin” with no suffix.

    Final X in French is silent.

    Solo digo/Je dis ça comme ça/Jus’ sayin’

  95. J.Ross says:

    Actual Hispanics pronounce it “mariconeria.” Pretty sure emphasis is on the e but it might be on the final i.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  96. Rob McX says:
    @Justvisiting

    For everyone else, it will be “just us wolkx

    Rhymes with the last word of a Sex Pistols’ album?

  97. nebulafox says:
    @Ed

    I have lived abroad. I have dated interracially. I have hung out with people of just about every ethnic and religious background you could imagine.

    I can safely say two things:

    1) Human nature and mundane daily concerns, both the good and the bad aspects, change very little. This includes tribalism. How it manifests might different according to cultures, the underlying sociology and biology does not.

    2) “Intersectionality” is something only white liberals are stupid and/or narcissistic enough to think exists in real life.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  98. nebulafox says:
    @nebulafox

    Correction: I did not mean to say sociology. My bad.

    But the point still stands that if you go to a different country, it isn’t like human nature or daily concerns of people-getting a job, getting a partner, etc-undergoes some massive shift. Culture and tradition can control how human nature manifests, but not the underlying “code”, if you will.

    By extension, that means the realities of ethnic rivalries do not disappear in the absence of white people. Most people are indeed merely ordinary human beings… but remember, that includes the fragilities and hypocrisies as much as the random altruism and desire to achieve something higher. Not all ordinary human being traits are conducive to peaceful coexistance. The whole point of human society is recognizing that, dealing with it, and encouraging the more positive aspects of human nature.

    • Agree: Ed
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  99. @TelfoedJohn

    The grade level of presidential speeches collapsed after women got the vote.

    I doubt that was the reason, though. Nearly a third of U.S. women had a presidential vote in 1916. (To their credit, they were more likely to go for Hughes than the highfalutin Wilson, and less taken in by socialism.) Women were the schoolteachers and grammarians, and boys played hooky, as school was already seen as a girly thing.

    Perhaps speaking to an audience mixed in any way forces one to look for common denominators, which can come across as dumbing-down. However, there were other factors at work in those days:

    Radio
    Mass-market advertising replacing the targeted kind (we’ve come full circle)
    PR and pop public-speaking, exemplified by Edward Bernays and Dale Carnegie
    Immigrant children reaching voting age
    Silent Cal (who said nothing), then Al Smith (who addressed the lowly)

  100. Better to ask Sam Hyde:

  101. lysias says:

    In Spanish, “Latina” is only used for female persons or feminine nouns. “Latino,” on the other hand, is not only used for male persons and masculine nouns, but also where the sex is indeterminate, for example, for a member of a group that includes both males and females. Similarly, the plural of “Latino,” “Latinos,” is used for a group that includes both males and females.

    Why manufacture a new artificial word that most English speakers will not understand, rather than follow the usage of the language from which the words are taken and thereby be understood by English speakers?

  102. George says:

    “Californx, Nevadx, and Arizonx ”

    A list of Spanish demonyms
    http://translationjournal.net/journal//30gentilicios.htm

    Spanish has, if I know what I am hablando about, special non standard demonyms for American states.

    A Californian is uno californiano or una californiana so it would be California: californianx

    Nevada: nevadeño, nevadense, nevadés I believe the preferred form is nevadense
    I believe nevadense, nevadés have identical masculine and feminine forms so Nevadensx does not work.
    Nevadeño Nevadeña is less used but would be Nevadeñx

    Arizona: arizono, arizonio, arizoniano, arizonense
    Arizoniano Arizoniana appears to be the preferred form so arizonianx works.
    arizono, arizonio are less used but would be arizonx, arizonix
    Also less used is arizonense which is male or female.

  103. lysias says:

    In Spanish, the name of the letter “x” is pronounced “equis” (like in the beer Dos Equis). So maybe Latinequis?

  104. George says:

    A guide to the new neuter form of nouns in Spanish. Could be a joke, my Spanish is not that good and from the last century. Una Latina becomes Unx Latinx? The plural Unas Latinas becomes Unxs Latinxs?

    Latino, Latinx, Latine
    The grammatical gender neutral in Spanish
    https://medium.com/@puentera/latino-latinx-latine-a3b19e0dbc1c

  105. lysias says:

    She could have said it in Spanish: “Cuando llego a ser presidente, las familias latinas tendran…”

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  106. AceDeuce says:

    I prefer using “Spix”.

    • Replies: @Lurker
  107. Cortes says:
    @SafeNow

    The “word” ends in a consonant other than “s” or “n” so without a written accent the stress falls on the final syllable.

  108. Thirdtwin says:
    @Gunner

    I guess “Chinx” is out of the question.

  109. Silly rabbix, Trix are for kidx.

    Of course, the grown-up response to this childish nonsense (we really no longer have a Left/Right divide in this country, we have a Childish/Grownup divide) would be to point out that we are speaking English and not Spanish.

    In English, we generally do not inflect for gender when speaking of large groups or collectives; the masculine gender controls for the entire group. When we say “Latinos” we mean /both/ short, fat, talkative men with irritating naco accents AND short, fat, talkative women with irritating naco accents. “Latinos” means all y’all. Maybe not in Spanish, but we are speaking English, which is why you barged into our country uninvited in the first place, remember?

    Nobody says, “Mad dogs and Englishmen and Englishwomen.”

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  110. @J.Ross

    Aunque todos aprovechan mariconeria, solo Sr. Buttigieg esta mariposa….

  111. Latin – that Roman soldier whose bones were found in front of a door in Pompeii, who, during the eruption of Vesuvius, died at his post because they forgot to relieve him.

    Latinx – Beto O’Rourke

    • Replies: @fish
  112. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Maybe not in Spanish….

    Oh, yes; very much so in Spanish; just as in English and every other language I’m aware of, the masculine embraces the feminine in these contexts. If a word is feminine (“persona”) the feminine embraces the masculine, as well. When a word has both masculine and feminine forms, though, the masculine, not the feminine, is used for the general and inclusive. If the context and intent dictate it:

    “Personas” means persons – men and women.

    “Padres” means “parents” – both mothers and fathers. One could say “padres y madres” for emphasis (like saying in English “fathers and mothers” rather than “parents”), and likewise for analogous other words, but it is not necessary, and it is usually unwieldy and verbose.

    And “colombianos” means “Colombians” – both male colombianos and female colombianas.

    It’s just that simple, though fools and villains insist otherwise until they choke and die. Languages have rules, just as maths do; without these rules (language itself being arbitrary and wholly reliant upon shared conventions for effective communication), we are left babbling futilely.

    (I would add, as an aside, it’s stupid to presume people who speak Spanish are all mestizos and indios; you had might as well suggest all people who speak English resemble Danny DeVito.)

  113. Anon7 says:

    At least she’s being honest for once. The 20,000,000 million people here illegally from “Latin” America will become “Ex-Latin” and just American.

    They will still be better than we are, though, because a tiny Chicana woman whose expertise lies in making sandwiches and taking care of her hapless father (useless male) and her self-absorbed idiot brother (useless male) turns out to SAVE HUMANITY in the latest Terminator movie. Not because she gives birth to the savior – she IS the savior.

  114. fish says:
    @John Gruskos

    Latin – that Roman soldier whose bones were found in front of a door in Pompeii, who, during the eruption of Vesuvius, died at his post because they forgot to relieve him.

    Latinx – Beto O’Rourke

    Ouch!

    • Replies: @Hail
  115. @lysias

    Right, but like nearly all American politicians, she is too damned stupid to speak more than one language. Besides, too, her goal is not actually to communicate to persons who speak Spanish, not does she give two shits about them: her goal is to grandstand for leftist, smug, white assholes like herself who also are too stupid to speak more than one language – it’s virtue-signalling, not interlingual outreach: that bit is just a ruse. Like Negroes, people who speak Spanish – of any race – are only around to dig the latrines and work in the chow hall as the white people battle each other in the cold civil war. (All credit to Mr. Derbyshire.)

  116. Hail says: • Website
    @fish

    Now that he has folded up his campaign, maybe Beto will realize that racial-cultural appropriation was the wrong way to go for him.

    About the mid 2000s, a hitherto no-name, nerdy comedian ‘made it’ after assuming the persona of a redneck called Larry the Cable Guy. What if Beto, whose first attempt at shopping around for an identity has fizzled, emerged as Beto the Cable Guy?

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  117. BB753 says:
    @Kratoklastes

    Are we to infer that all Australians have a mastery of Armenian slang? Would you care to explain?

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  118. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    Pergratux est mihix quod tam diligenter librox avunculix meix lectitas.

    • Replies: @Cortes
  119. So Lizzy Warren with her axxxe has emasculated the Latino people into Latinx? I’m sure her redheaded SJW supporters truly loved that one

  120. Gunner says:
    @Autochthon

    Ching Chong actually has a meaning and has been used by people in conversations. Chang Chang is the equivalent of the artificial Latinx.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  121. Our unprincipled Cherokee (ex)
    Gives gentlemen pains in the necks.
    She spoke with forked tongue
    From when she was young —
    A trait of the unfairer sex.

  122. Anonymous[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @nebulafox

    But the point still stands that if you go to a different country, it isn’t like human nature or daily concerns of people-getting a job, getting a partner, etc-undergoes some massive shift. Culture and tradition can control how human nature manifests, but not the underlying “code”, if you will.

    This wisdom could be expanded to encompass almost all animal organisms—“animal nature,” if you will. The nature and daily concerns of animals (feeding themselves, finding a partner) don’t undergo some massive shift. Same underlying code.

  123. @Kratoklastes

    Chinese people prefer to be called “Chinkee”

    “Tennesse” for an attractive woman.

    Tennesse is derived from “tennelle”

  124. Cortes says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    The follow up album “Xavier xode a la hixa de Xulio en el xardin” was a big hit in Mexico.

  125. @BB753

    It was one of those things where all the moving parts come together. A very close wog mate of mine (a Greek Cypriot) who was one year behind me at uni, trained with a bloke nicknamed ‘The Minotaur’, who was Armenian. When we went on to grad study, the wog mate had a tutor’s office on the landing on the floor below where my office was.

    We wanted a set of crass expressions – racist, sexist, homophobic… the whole shebang – that would evade the censorious slags who were part of the mid-90s push to ruin university life.

    We couldn’t use Greek, coz there were abundant wogs in our faculty. Plus, everyone knows malaka, ga muti, pushti, and shit like that. The Minotaur came to the rescue.

    Oddly, a few years later I had a coder on our Equities team who was an Armenian Ethiopian. (I hired my wog mate into the team as soon as I got put in charge).

    We kept up the ‘in-joke’ because the HR hag was highly ‘HR-positive’ (i.e., wanted the boys to behave). She later got tennelled by one of our colleagues, who she later married, thus ruining his life.

    And to this day, we refer to each other as Pez or Pezeveng, which is a Turkish (and Cypriot) insult which has about the same range of meanings as malaka.

    Yes, we are juveniles, to this day.

  126. Anonymous[404] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kratoklastes

    Interesting thing about Australian power is that despite nominally being 235-240 vac 50 Hz, actually well over 250 is quite common. I worked on a product where we had a lot of problems until we had the power transformers respecified and additional pass transistor heat sinking put in.

  127. @Reg Cæsar

    Wikipedia is not chiding anyone. The familiar form is considered intimate and friendly and is used constantly in instructional phrases, in advertising, and in daily life. Saying “Check if you have written the name of the article in the correct form,” especially because it is in the familiar, is friendly, conciliatory, not condescending and not chiding.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @BB753
  128. Change of folkx now– How about Chinx?

    • LOL: BB753
  129. @Gunner

    If you say so. The important thing is not to leave your Coca-Cola unattended around any of them, whatever you want to call them….

  130. @Hail

    I think Beto’s future is as an international arms merchant.

    He has no principles whatsoever, and his lying skills are pretty good.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  131. Ragno says:
    @Hail

    Either (Latin-icks, Latin-X) is at least better than the vaguely disturbing ‘Lah-TINKS.’

    When you come to a fork in the road, always choose the path that’s vaguely disturbing. Just think: if we all agree to say “lah-TINKS”, none of us would have to say it at all after very long.

  132. JAhd says:

    The word of pronounced like this: “scolding schoolmarm”

  133. @restless94110

    Wikipedia is not chiding anyone.

    Did you have to ask one of the Latinxi you’re gentrifying out of the Mission District, Mr Wales?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @restless94110
  134. @Reg Cæsar

    Your snarkiness is a generational marker.

    So first you snark about the use of the familiar in a Wikipedia listing. When you are corrected, by a person with two degrees in Spanish, who speaks fluent Spanish and has been living in a Spanish speaking country for years, you decide to get snarky about me, deducing from a zip code some snarky details about a section of San Francisco you also obviously know nothing about (the Mission is mostly Asians and white bread technocrats now, snarkmaster).

    Snark is dead, bruh. It’s a dead giveaway of your putrid generation’s bankruptcy and ill humored destruction of everything happening in the US right now.

    Go back to watching your High Priestess of Snark, Rachel Maddow, Detective Snark. When I lived in the 94110, I lived on Liberty Hill with rock stars and old money.

    As they say in Mexico, eres un pinche chingón, puto.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  135. @Reg Cæsar

    Why the plug for another stupid dot com, señor Snark. Do you get commission? I hope so. Snark is stupid and so Gen-X.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  136. @Anonymous

    The Greeks had a word for it. Or was it the Romans?

    It’s all actually a typo. It’s supposed to be Latrinex. Those accustomed to performing bodily functions outside.

  137. @restless94110

    Your snarkiness is a generational marker.

    “Generational marker” is also a generational marker. They weren’t common when this Marrow chick was born.

    (Am I supposed to know who she is?)

    • Replies: @Lurker
    , @restless94110
  138. Lurker says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    He’s a smartly dressed young fellow with a bright future in the media.

    • Replies: @restless94110
  139. @restless94110

    Why the plug for another stupid dot com, señor Snark. Do you get commission? I hope so.

    The image didn’t take the first time, so I replaced it. Now it’s the other way around. That’s Silicon Valley for you!

    For the record, it wasn’t the correction that set me off, it was the Zipflaunting. 94xxx is like 05xxx: nothing wrong with the natives, but those who move there sure can be annoying.

    Snark is stupid and so Gen-X.

    I thought I was Gen-IX. To us, Snark is something you hunted.

    • Replies: @restless94110
  140. BB753 says:
    @restless94110

    That’s correct. In Spain, “usted” is rarely used anymore and will probably disappear in a generation or two. It’s funny that the French should on to the use of formal “vous”, less so in Belgium, where “tu” is gaining ground. “Liberté, ÉGALITÉ, fraternité”, my ass! I don’t know about the French – speaking Swiss, because it’s been ages since I last visited Geneva. In my experience, German-speaking Swiss were friendlier and less snotty than the former.

    • Replies: @restless94110
  141. BB753 says:

    This “Latinx” stuff won’t win Warren any Latin votes. And she’s almost as unlikeable as Hillary.

  142. @Reg Cæsar

    What are you talkling about, loon? This is the equivalent of blackety blackety.

    You don’t know who Marrow is?
    How about Rachel Maddow? do you know who she is?
    Every post you make is a generational marker you lunatic.

  143. @Lurker

    Reg Caesar surely is. Thanks buddy.

  144. @Reg Cæsar

    I truly have not the slightest idea what you are going on about. Why would you give a shit where I used to live long ago? What’s wrong with you, moron? You have a cartoon about something that has nothing to do with anything?

    I notice you post like 20 times an hour about nonsense you think is important. Why? Who cares why? No one. Take a vacation.

  145. @BB753

    No, usted will certainly not disappear at all. Usted is used daily by everyone in every Spanish speaking country. Both the formal and the familiar have daily use by everyone everywhere.

    It does not matter what is gaining ground in your mind which has nothing to do with the reality. Usted has use. Tu also has use. Just because tu is now used in certain circumstances is only because it imputes friendliness. That does not mean you address a stranger with tu. You address them with usted.

    Nothing is changing. The idiot who suggested that tu was condescending or some kind of slur was an obvious moron. His comments were the genesis of this particular comment thread.

    Nothing is changing in the world of tu and usted, nor should it.

    • Replies: @BB753
  146. BB753 says:
    @restless94110

    You do realize that the Spanish spoken in Spain is quite different from that spoken in Mexico? So “usted” could very well disappear in Spain, just as “tu” did in Argentina and Uruguay.

    • Replies: @restless94110
  147. @BB753

    The familiar in Argentina is vos so the familiar did not disappear.

    The Spanish spoken is not that different than the Spanish spoken in other Hispanic countries. There are vast differences in the names for things and in the slang, however.

    Nevertheless, you see tu used in Spain, and in all other Hispanic countries in the ways I described earlier. And usted still remains.

    You point is? I don’t get it. You think usted is diminishing? But now you think that tu is diminishing? Could you make up your sad confused mind?

    Ayúdanos a entenderte.

    Te va a vivir para siempre así como usted–y vos.

    • Replies: @BB753
  148. BB753 says:
    @restless94110

    I’ll make it simple.
    Usted: disappearing in Spain but strong everywhere else.
    You see, there were three forms in the XVII century: tu (informal) vos (formal) usted (< "vuestra merced" , very formal). (BTW, in Brazil, speakers chose the Portuguese equivalent of "usted" ("voce" ), Ie., the most formal pronoun for all situations.)
    Most counties lost the "vos", except Argentina and Uruguay, which was used to substitute "tu".
    So most countries were left with "tu/usted", although this distinction is losing ground in Spain (I contend).
    English also used to distinguish between "thou/you", but kept the formal pronoun as the universal second person singular.
    Whether European Spanish chooses the other solution and ditches "usted" altogether remains to be seen.
    ¿Me entiendes? T'as pigé?

    • Replies: @restless94110
  149. @BB753

    Your contention is incorrect. Usted is in common use in Spain. Vos/vosotros is also in use in Spain (the plural familiar), while usted/ustedes (the plural formal) is in use everywhere else. Except that in Argentina, vos is used instead of tu. Also I believe this is true in one Central American country.

    The formal is alive and well in every Spanish speaking country and shows no signs of flagging. However the informal is used as well in its different forms and is commonly used in advertising, instructionals, and other materials to show friendship and familiarity.

    No, no te entiendo, señor extraño. No hay una palabra <> en español asi como una construcción como <>.

    Try again to write Spanish. Or don’t. That makes 100 percent of what you have written incorrect. You’re batting 1000 so far.

    • Replies: @BB753
  150. BB753 says:
    @restless94110

    Listen, “vos” hasn’t been used in Spain for over three centuries. In the plural, it has survived as “vos-otros” ( compare with the similar frequent use of French “vous autres”, to avoid the ambiguity of the pronoun “vous”, which can be either the polite singular or the universal 2nd person plural, both polite and informal.
    As for “Ustedes” it is seldom heard in European Spanish, except in parts of the South (sometimes as the redundant double form “ustedes vosotros”) or very formal situations when addressing an audience.
    If you still don’t believe that “usted” is losing ground in Spain, catch a plane and visit the country, because you’ve obviously never set foot in Spain for the last 40 years, if at all.

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