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From the opinion section of The Guardian:

I co-founded Occupy Wall Street. Now I’m headed to Davos. Why?
Micah White

Micah White is the co-creator of Occupy Wall Street, author of The End of Protest: A New Playbook for Revolution and founder of Activist Graduate School, an online school for activists
Rejecting Davos is easy when one hasn’t been invited. Now that I have a chance to go, I want to discover its revolutionary potential

@beingMicahWhite
Sat 18 Jan 2020 02.00 EST

Last year in Taki’s I pointed out that it’s interesting that the Great Awokening began not long after the collapse of Occupy Wall Street in late 2011. Perhaps the rise of Woke Capital was a response to the Occupy movement to exacerbate Occupy’s tendency to fragment into identity politics squabbles instead of focusing on expropriating the rich. If so, Davos might be a natural place to organize Woke Capital.

But I haven’t noticed much new evidence for this conspiracy theory since I published it.

 
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  1. From “limousine liberals” to Learjet Leninists.

    • Thanks: Dieter Kief
    • LOL: Cato, Prester John
  2. From “limousine liberals” to Learjet Leninists. Can we call them “Bono-beaus”?

  3. Now that I have a chance to go, I want to discover its revolutionary potential

    OMG, so true! Wait ’til he discovers Google, Apple and Facebook! They’re just going to turn this society upside down, amirite? Twitter is also pretty woke, so I hear.

  4. >Rejecting Davos is easy when one hasn’t been invited. Now that I have a chance to go, I want to discover its revolutionary potential<

    White privilege?

    • Replies: @Kronos
    Unlikely...

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/77/Micah_White_in_Chicago.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micah_M._White
  5. Antifa is coming to Virginia in seven chartered buses, ostensibly to protest alongside Virginians. Anyone familiar with their record probably laughed just now. The word going around now is to try to photograph the buses and every antifa windowbreaker as they are disembarking, then compile the photos to be able to prove later that “Generic Redneck #127” is actually an antifa windowbreaker. The dinosaur media will lie about Virginia like they lie about C-ville, and I am hearing a propaganda “success” among people who watch only dinosaur media and believe it, but that’s with unprecedented numbers of people who seek out alternative media. A cage has been erected for a free speech zone, the word is to not enter it.

  6. Here’s a quote from the article that made me laugh:
    “The question I’m most often asked is: what do you hope to achieve by participating in the World Economic Forum?”

    I’d give Mr.White a lot of credit if he had answered honestly. “I hope to get the opportunity to join the 1% I’ve been protesting against.”

    And thus it has always been. Revolutionary movements just a manifestation of the age old urge to grab the throne for oneself, cloaked in SJWism. After the October Revolution, the primary impetus behind Soviet policy was to keep Lenin (and then Stalin) ensconced in luxury in the Kremlin. Same with Mao after 1949, etc, etc…

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    NJ Transit Commuter wrote:

    Revolutionary movements just a manifestation of the age old urge to grab the throne for oneself, cloaked in SJWism.
     
    One thing that is too rarely stated is that these people who lust after power -- those who hold it and those who yearn to hold it -- are truly mentally disturbed.

    This is not how normal human beings think and behave.

    For most of us, trying to control our kids up till they reach the age of eighteen is exhausting enough. We don't want to control our neighbors or people we have never met or people who have different goals and desires than we do or people who live halfway around the world.

    We want to live our own lives, not manage others' lives.

    I wonder if the sickness from which these people suffer is due to a hatred of their own lives, or an inability to control their own lives, and therefore they "compensate" by trying to live others' lives.

    In a sane society, we would view these as people who need help, not people who should be trusted with any responsibility or authority.
    , @Anonymous
    Eric Hoffer put it best: only upper-middle-class intellectuals & diploma-holders ever want revolution, while the really poor and the really rich tend not to want to roll the dice
    , @JackOH
    Well said, NJ.

    We have political types in my area who have a few years of young firebrand in them before they get that safe seat, that lifelong bureaucratic slot, tenure and pay raise given them prematurely to shut their yaps about whatever social justice cause they're blathering about, established access to grant moneys and local foundation program officers.

    The phenomenon of trading ostensible social justice activism for personal advancement and loot is pretty much in-your-face at one local labor union. After inking a new concessionary contract, the union president received a promotion and pay raise. Turned out he had actually applied for and interviewed for the position during the course of contract negotiations.

    Never heard of Micah White, but "Playbook for Revolution" and "Activist Graduate School" are too cute.

    That Davos invite seems to put a perfect capstone on Mr. White's playroom activism.

    , @Dieter Kief
    The big mover in revolutionary politics is power, not luxury - and in no case - - - taste.

    I was in a nomenclatura holiday resort for the German Democratic Republic leaders at the Baltic Sea in the summer of 1990 - everything there lacked luxury and especially taste up to the nth degree.

    , @John Achterhof
    No, Transit Commuter. No!

    Setting aside the example of the Davos-bound former OWS leader, human motivation does not conform to the narrow, cynical view that you and others on this thread ascribe to it. Consider that the liberties you enjoy as an American, however truncated they've become, are owed to the noblesse oblige of revolutionaries - Washington, Jefferson, Franklin and so forth. If the rise of sociopaths into institutions of power - notably the state - may be thought a theme of human history, this view has to it a countervailing theme of well-intentioned people and leaders rising up in defiance of the systems of exploitation and oppression made in the consequence. I suppose even those at the start of terribly misguided revolutionary movements such as theocracy, communism or socialism are mostly well-intended - but then it's inevitable that the Total State made of their idealism soon becomes host of the more common human attributes of self-interest, venality and greed... Thus the enduring wisdom of the founders in limited government.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    There used to be a rugby song to the tune of "The Red Flag" which began

    "The working class can kiss my arse
    I've got the foreman's job at last"
     
    , @Prester John
    "Revolutionary movements just a manifestation of the age old urge to grab the throne for oneself, cloaked in SJWism."

    Yep. It's all a racket. By the way, I wonder who's paying Micah the Revolutionary's plane fare. Soros maybe?
  7. Economic Right and Cultural Left are innate allies in a globalized age. Never forget it.

    • Agree: Kronos, S. Anonyia, BB753
    • Replies: @Lot
    https://twitter.com/monopoly4equal/status/1169304463410114560
    , @ben tillman

    Economic Right and Cultural Left are innate allies in a globalized age. Never forget it.
     
    That should say the Economic Left and the Cultural Left are innate allies.The Left has always been plutocratic.
    , @dfordoom

    Economic Right and Cultural Left are innate allies in a globalized age. Never forget it.
     
    They're more than just allies. They're joined at the hip. In most cases they're the same people.

    It's almost as if the Cultural Left was created specifically to serve the interests of Big Capital.
  8. Before someone else does, I’ll quote the Who:

    There’s nothing in the street
    Looks any different to me
    And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
    And the parting on the left
    Is now the parting on the right
    And the beards have all grown longer overnight

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Before someone else does, I’ll quote the Who:

    There’s nothing in the street
    Looks any different to me
    And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
    And the parting on the left
    Is now the parting on the right
    And the beards have all grown longer overnight

     
    Tldr -- Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
  9. Am I the only one surprised that Micah White looks like this:

    • Replies: @Hail
    MICAH WHITE
    - born 1982, reportedly to a White mother and Black father in Milwaukee;
    - 2000: Graduates from high school in Grand Blanc, Michigan; had been active in high school protesting against the pledge of allegiance and forming/leading a militant "Atheist Club," which clashed with a Bible Study student group; Micah's Atheist Club's whose goal was ''to keep our school as secular as possible;"
    - 2004: Earns BA, Swarthmore College, major: Philosophy, double minor in Interpretation Theory and Film & Media Studies;
    - Mid 2000s: Begins romantic involvement with Chiara Ricciardone (MA, 2009, SUNY Binghamton; PhD, 2017, Rhetoric, Berkeley), whom he met at Swarthmore (they both had minors in Interpretation Theory); the two have been romantically involved since then (now married, one son); Chiara is the daughter of Ambassador Francis Ricciardone (b.1952; career diplomat from 1978, with multiple high-profile full-ambassadorships in the 2000s and 2010s);
    - 2012: Micah earns a PhD from European Graduate School in Switzerland with a dissertation called "Post-Search: Libraries, Search Engines and the Organization of Knowledge," the summary of which is not very elucidating to me:

    This dissertation examines the meaning of searching by exploring the origins and consequences of the two dominant ways of organizing knowledge: libraries and search engines. I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.
     
    - Sept. 2011 to present: Micah is a moderately high-profile left-wing activist following Occupy Wall Street, but was actually already near power at age 17, having an Op-Ed published in the New York Times("Atheists Under Siege," June 1999) and appearing on an Aug. 1999 episode of Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher as a panelist on a "special teen episode."

    On how he got the idea for Occupy Wall Street (from 2014 interview with Esquire):


    [The Arab Spring] was absolutely crucial for my own development because I have lived in Egypt for nine months in, like, you know, 2005 or 2006. My wife’s father is a former ambassador to Egypt. I remember staying at the embassy and seeing, like, how many police officers Mubarak would employ to, like, keep order in his society. I mean, I remember seeing that and I remember thinking, at the time, like, “Wow. A revolution would be impossible here with all these police officers.” Like, they would have dozens and dozens and dozens of police officers everywhere. Then, lo and behold, a revolution happened in Tahir Square. That opened my eyes.
     
    He co-founded Occupy Wall Street with Kalle Lasn (b.1942 in Estonia), who seems like an Unz Review writer.

    In any case, Micah White is no turncoat who sold out to Davos. He was close all along; every part of his biography bears this out.

    , @Jake
    In the 19th century, the Anglo-Zionist Empire Part 1, the Brit WASP Empire, created the first global 'affirmative action' program. The Brit WASPs selected a number of young men from around the Empire to be trained to be Imperial Elite. The vast majority of peoples native to the British Isles were, of course, not merely quite poor, but held into that place by law and custom that to the average WASP is more sacred than any revealed religion. The entire time that the Brit WASP Empire was the wealthiest in world history, large numbers of its peoples native to the islands were forced to emigrate in order not to remain rather desperately poor.

    And at the same time, the Brit WASP Elites were delighting in spending small fortunes to raise up non-white and non-Christian elites from around the imperial globe.

    Micah White is in a long line of people used by the Anglo-Zionist Elite to secure their wealth and power at the continued, and deepening, expense of the vast majority of whites not merely in the world, but of the British Isles and the descendants of British Isles natives.
  10. I agree the Great Awokening was very convenient to the limousine Democrats who run the party at a time when a lot of people were very angry at Wall Street. It’s one of the reasons why the Democratic establishment worry so much about Bernie Sanders (who as a traditional socialist believes more in class warfare than in racial warfare). In 2016 they stack the cards against him in favor of Hillary (who totally believed in the Great Awokening). In 2020 it’s much more difficult to do this again as his main rivals, Biden and Warren, are considerably weaker than Hillary was four years ago.

  11. Exactly what part of “class warfare” did Mr. White not comprehend?

    These secretive invite-only meetings are held under the Chatham House rule, a strict guideline that protects the anonymity of participants in order to facilitate frank discussion. These, along with the equally confidential bilateral meetings held between participants in corridors and hotel lobbies, is the Davos with the potential to usher in great social changes.

    Great for who? Not-so-great for whom?

  12. “The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.” – George Orwell, Animal Farm

  13. @Hail
    Am I the only one surprised that Micah White looks like this:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOnRvx6WoAc4uRM.jpg:large

    MICAH WHITE
    – born 1982, reportedly to a White mother and Black father in Milwaukee;
    2000: Graduates from high school in Grand Blanc, Michigan; had been active in high school protesting against the pledge of allegiance and forming/leading a militant “Atheist Club,” which clashed with a Bible Study student group; Micah’s Atheist Club’s whose goal was ”to keep our school as secular as possible;”
    2004: Earns BA, Swarthmore College, major: Philosophy, double minor in Interpretation Theory and Film & Media Studies;
    Mid 2000s: Begins romantic involvement with Chiara Ricciardone (MA, 2009, SUNY Binghamton; PhD, 2017, Rhetoric, Berkeley), whom he met at Swarthmore (they both had minors in Interpretation Theory); the two have been romantically involved since then (now married, one son); Chiara is the daughter of Ambassador Francis Ricciardone (b.1952; career diplomat from 1978, with multiple high-profile full-ambassadorships in the 2000s and 2010s);
    2012: Micah earns a PhD from European Graduate School in Switzerland with a dissertation called “Post-Search: Libraries, Search Engines and the Organization of Knowledge,” the summary of which is not very elucidating to me:

    This dissertation examines the meaning of searching by exploring the origins and consequences of the two dominant ways of organizing knowledge: libraries and search engines. I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.

    Sept. 2011 to present: Micah is a moderately high-profile left-wing activist following Occupy Wall Street, but was actually already near power at age 17, having an Op-Ed published in the New York Times(“Atheists Under Siege,” June 1999) and appearing on an Aug. 1999 episode of Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher as a panelist on a “special teen episode.”

    On how he got the idea for Occupy Wall Street (from 2014 interview with Esquire):

    [The Arab Spring] was absolutely crucial for my own development because I have lived in Egypt for nine months in, like, you know, 2005 or 2006. My wife’s father is a former ambassador to Egypt. I remember staying at the embassy and seeing, like, how many police officers Mubarak would employ to, like, keep order in his society. I mean, I remember seeing that and I remember thinking, at the time, like, “Wow. A revolution would be impossible here with all these police officers.” Like, they would have dozens and dozens and dozens of police officers everywhere. Then, lo and behold, a revolution happened in Tahir Square. That opened my eyes.

    He co-founded Occupy Wall Street with Kalle Lasn (b.1942 in Estonia), who seems like an Unz Review writer.

    In any case, Micah White is no turncoat who sold out to Davos. He was close all along; every part of his biography bears this out.

    • Thanks: bomag
    • Replies: @newrouter
    >I remember staying at the embassy and seeing, like, how many police officers Mubarak would employ to, like, keep order in his society. I mean, I remember seeing that and I remember thinking, at the time, like, “Wow. A revolution would be impossible here with all these police officers.” Like, they would have dozens and dozens and dozens of police officers everywhere.<

    I hope he got some "likes" on his Twitter page.
    , @Not My Economy
    >I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.


    He means people will no longer use google to discover new information, they will have content thrown at them by their chosen providers. Which actually happened. Google search has become basically useless and people interface with the wider internet through facebook/twitter feeds. So give this guy credit for noticing it at the beginning of the trend.

    These professional class "socialist" careerists are disgusting, but they are smart and they know how to get what they want. We can learn from them.

    , @Lot
    Agree.

    Also, an American with a Ph.D. from a European university generally indicates too low IQ to be admitted anywhere in the USA, and the “Dr.” had to pay $100,000+ in tuition.
    , @Dave Pinsen

    Micah earns a PhD from European Graduate School in Switzerland with a dissertation called “Post-Search: Libraries, Search Engines and the Organization of Knowledge,” the summary of which is not very elucidating to me:

    This dissertation examines the meaning of searching by exploring the origins and consequences of the two dominant ways of organizing knowledge: libraries and search engines. I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.
     
    This one of the ideas in Neal Stephenson’s latest novel: bias and manipulation become so prevalent that people can’t agree on basic facts, such as whether and American town has been nuked or not. So people subscribe to edited feeds or information flows.
    , @Romanian

    2000: Graduates from high school in Grand Blanc
     
    He graduated in Great White? I lolled.

    Interesting bio. Does the Department of State provide support for adult children of diplomats and their spouses to live where the employee has been posted?
    , @Lurker

    This dissertation examines the meaning of searching by exploring the origins and consequences of the two dominant ways of organizing knowledge: libraries and search engines. I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.
     
    Ooh he's quite the intellectual powerhouse!
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    First of all, Hail, thank you for providing some good bio. information, as you've been doing a lot lately. Reading about this guy really makes me think about some of Mr. Sailer's writing, along with other commenters' here, about Øb☭ma, that Kaepernick character, and other half-black/half-white men and their personality problems.

    The chances are, these characters will be a bit smarter than pure-black men. Therefore, if they have chips on their shoulders, they are more likely to be activists like this guy, causing trouble for whites, as this guy has his whole life so far, rather than just be the type ready to grab more free stuff or get in confrontations on an individual basis. It's not like it's all black or part-black people by any means, but over the last 5 decades, the Lyin' Press and other institutions have pushed a narrative that creates resentment.

    In addition, the half-white guy, seemingly most with white Moms, will likely see the white side of the family as very functional, and the black side not so much, if his Dad is even around at all, cough, cough, Øb☭ma. Unless he's really honest with himself, which most people aren't, he's gonna blame the black disfunction on something other than where the blame belongs. Then, because he's one of those smart black kids, the schools and employers are going to give him every break in the book, letting him climb up the ladder to resentment high ground.

    I'm surprised Mr. White has not had his name changed at the courthouse yet, to some unpronounceable African gibberish, or else, simply Mr. Black.

    (There's also something about having family members in high places, like this guy.)

    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    "Begins romantic involvement with Chiara Ricciardone"

    What are the chances Micah and Chiara have never actually seen each other naked?

    Probably pretty good.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    He co-founded Occupy Wall Street with Kalle Lasn (b.1942 in Estonia), who seems like an Unz Review writer.
     
    Who would prevail if Kalle Lasn took on Carlos Ghosn in tennisn? Chessn? Mixed martial artsn? I assume Carlos would have the edge in businessn, but that may just be my biasn.

    Kalle might object to the way Carlos ran Nissn Motorsn, but as the latter man is Brazilian, I'm sure Kalle could appreciate that big yellow lasnge on Carlosn's flag. You know, around the words Ordem e Progressn.

    By the way, should the Red Wings meet the Rangers in the Stanley Cup series, will the Detroit fans octopi Wall Street?

    http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Al+Sobotka+New+Jersey+Devils+v+Detroit+Red+Gmgs3OWAz39l.jpg

    , @Alden
    Swarthmore, why am I not surprised founded by Quakers and cranks as Orwell called them. Look at Philadelphia and some Suburbs Look at the results of Quaker Puritan Marxist liberal coddling of blacks. Better than Detroit, almost as bad as Baltimore

    Close down the very college in America
  14. I’m now currently reading (well listening to) David Garrow’s “Rising Star” biography on Barack Obama. It’s highly detailed and does a superb job capturing various angles through the life of Barry Obama. (He apparently hates being called Barry so I’ll refer to him as such.) One of the angles of note is the public perception of community organizing. When Barry started in Chicago in the mid 1980s, it wasn’t seen as a glamorous position. The best and brightest of the boomer yuppies were jockeying for far more prestigious positions with higher pay. Many were surprised at Harvard Law School that Obama turned down an essentially assured Supreme Court clerkship for “community organizing” in Chicago after graduation.

    While I’m only 1/2 finished with the book and it’ll end before the Obama Presidency, Garrow’s book (and your book too Steve) strongly suggest that Obama found himself a niche profession in community organizing. One that intersected between poor people, wealthy foundations, and regional/global elites.

    My educated guess is that after the 2008 Great Recession, ”Mau-Mauing” style college campus community organizing become a “rising star” profession. Young Millennials were frozen out of entry-level areas of traditionally glorious professions (law, banking, etc.) Some joined “Teach for America” in droves as pointed out by EducationRealist, while others tried the community organizing approach. This proved a fairly easy way for parents to dump their higher functioning Greta Thunbergs after graduating from College. Keep in mind “Wokeness“ is 1990s Boomer urban liberalism on steroids. It’s not a surprise that Clinton Democrats like mommy and daddy support woke organizations that profess radical cultural upheaval while leaving economics on the laissez-faire back burner.

    Such organizations were able to “infiltrate, initiate, and detonate” Occupy WallStreet into atomization. Many were organized around universities which aren’t known as genuine bastions of the working class. So it’s not really a surprise that many were rewarded by “Woke Capital” for fragmenting a potential threat within the Democratic Party.

    P.S. Garrow’s book is very detailed. Here’s a section regarding one of Barry’s old girlfriends.

    Over the next four weeks, Genevieve continued to record in her journal her reactions to Barack. Intercourse was pleasant, and in bed “he neither came off as experienced or inexperienced,” she later recalled. “Sexually he really wasn’t very imaginative, but he was comfortable. He was no kind of shrinking ‘Can’t handle it. This is invasive’ or ‘I’m timid’ in any way; he was quite earthy.””

    — Rising Star: The Making of Barack Obama by David Garrow
    http://a.co/6eSz6lu

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Intercourse was pleasant, and in bed “he neither came off as experienced or inexperienced,” she later recalled.

    You can't help wondering how many sex partners Genevieve is rating Barack against--10, 25, 50? It's an odd way for a woman to present herself publicly, or at least it used to be.
    , @Hail

    Obama found himself a niche profession in community organizing. One that intersected between poor people, wealthy foundations, and regional/global elites.

    My educated guess is that after the 2008 Great Recession, ”Mau-Mauing” style college campus community organizing become a “rising star” profession
     

    Good comment.

    Steve Sailer, in an earlier post about Micah White and his wife's radical-activist consultancy, had the same idea ("Boutique Activist Consultancy," iSteve, Sept. 9, 2017; the first-ever post here mentioning Micah White, the current one being the second):


    How many of these Late Obama Age Collapse movements are attempts by mixed race kids like Micah White to cash in the way Obama did?
     
    The parallels between the two are striking. the Black father, White mother angle; the State Department connections; the elite education; the similar choice of careers in their 20s and early 30s.

    Micah White is 21 years younger, which means the late 2000s and 2010s were for Micah what the late 1980s and 1990s were for Barack.

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    "Keep in mind 'Wokeness' is 1990s Boomer urban liberalism."

    It's worse than that. Woke is cultural Marxism and completely illiberal. Like all revolutions, Woke is false flag cover for elite interests. Elites are always concerned with economic domination, but in Woke there is some strange stuff at work along with the obvious demographic agenda. The subject of your excellent comment, Barry Obama, remains a bit of a cipher. His mother's family background is the key to his mystery.
  15. @Hail
    MICAH WHITE
    - born 1982, reportedly to a White mother and Black father in Milwaukee;
    - 2000: Graduates from high school in Grand Blanc, Michigan; had been active in high school protesting against the pledge of allegiance and forming/leading a militant "Atheist Club," which clashed with a Bible Study student group; Micah's Atheist Club's whose goal was ''to keep our school as secular as possible;"
    - 2004: Earns BA, Swarthmore College, major: Philosophy, double minor in Interpretation Theory and Film & Media Studies;
    - Mid 2000s: Begins romantic involvement with Chiara Ricciardone (MA, 2009, SUNY Binghamton; PhD, 2017, Rhetoric, Berkeley), whom he met at Swarthmore (they both had minors in Interpretation Theory); the two have been romantically involved since then (now married, one son); Chiara is the daughter of Ambassador Francis Ricciardone (b.1952; career diplomat from 1978, with multiple high-profile full-ambassadorships in the 2000s and 2010s);
    - 2012: Micah earns a PhD from European Graduate School in Switzerland with a dissertation called "Post-Search: Libraries, Search Engines and the Organization of Knowledge," the summary of which is not very elucidating to me:

    This dissertation examines the meaning of searching by exploring the origins and consequences of the two dominant ways of organizing knowledge: libraries and search engines. I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.
     
    - Sept. 2011 to present: Micah is a moderately high-profile left-wing activist following Occupy Wall Street, but was actually already near power at age 17, having an Op-Ed published in the New York Times("Atheists Under Siege," June 1999) and appearing on an Aug. 1999 episode of Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher as a panelist on a "special teen episode."

    On how he got the idea for Occupy Wall Street (from 2014 interview with Esquire):


    [The Arab Spring] was absolutely crucial for my own development because I have lived in Egypt for nine months in, like, you know, 2005 or 2006. My wife’s father is a former ambassador to Egypt. I remember staying at the embassy and seeing, like, how many police officers Mubarak would employ to, like, keep order in his society. I mean, I remember seeing that and I remember thinking, at the time, like, “Wow. A revolution would be impossible here with all these police officers.” Like, they would have dozens and dozens and dozens of police officers everywhere. Then, lo and behold, a revolution happened in Tahir Square. That opened my eyes.
     
    He co-founded Occupy Wall Street with Kalle Lasn (b.1942 in Estonia), who seems like an Unz Review writer.

    In any case, Micah White is no turncoat who sold out to Davos. He was close all along; every part of his biography bears this out.

    >I remember staying at the embassy and seeing, like, how many police officers Mubarak would employ to, like, keep order in his society. I mean, I remember seeing that and I remember thinking, at the time, like, “Wow. A revolution would be impossible here with all these police officers.” Like, they would have dozens and dozens and dozens of police officers everywhere.<

    I hope he got some "likes" on his Twitter page.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Lurker
    So, in the Current Year, you can, like, not bother to have any meaningful content at all.
  16. @Kronos
    I’m now currently reading (well listening to) David Garrow’s “Rising Star” biography on Barack Obama. It’s highly detailed and does a superb job capturing various angles through the life of Barry Obama. (He apparently hates being called Barry so I’ll refer to him as such.) One of the angles of note is the public perception of community organizing. When Barry started in Chicago in the mid 1980s, it wasn’t seen as a glamorous position. The best and brightest of the boomer yuppies were jockeying for far more prestigious positions with higher pay. Many were surprised at Harvard Law School that Obama turned down an essentially assured Supreme Court clerkship for “community organizing” in Chicago after graduation.

    While I’m only 1/2 finished with the book and it’ll end before the Obama Presidency, Garrow’s book (and your book too Steve) strongly suggest that Obama found himself a niche profession in community organizing. One that intersected between poor people, wealthy foundations, and regional/global elites.

    My educated guess is that after the 2008 Great Recession, ”Mau-Mauing” style college campus community organizing become a “rising star” profession. Young Millennials were frozen out of entry-level areas of traditionally glorious professions (law, banking, etc.) Some joined “Teach for America” in droves as pointed out by EducationRealist, while others tried the community organizing approach. This proved a fairly easy way for parents to dump their higher functioning Greta Thunbergs after graduating from College. Keep in mind “Wokeness“ is 1990s Boomer urban liberalism on steroids. It’s not a surprise that Clinton Democrats like mommy and daddy support woke organizations that profess radical cultural upheaval while leaving economics on the laissez-faire back burner.

    Such organizations were able to “infiltrate, initiate, and detonate” Occupy WallStreet into atomization. Many were organized around universities which aren’t known as genuine bastions of the working class. So it’s not really a surprise that many were rewarded by “Woke Capital” for fragmenting a potential threat within the Democratic Party.

    https://www.amazon.com/Rising-Star-Making-Barack-Obama/dp/0062641832

    P.S. Garrow’s book is very detailed. Here’s a section regarding one of Barry’s old girlfriends.


    Over the next four weeks, Genevieve continued to record in her journal her reactions to Barack. Intercourse was pleasant, and in bed “he neither came off as experienced or inexperienced,” she later recalled. “Sexually he really wasn’t very imaginative, but he was comfortable. He was no kind of shrinking ‘Can’t handle it. This is invasive’ or ‘I’m timid’ in any way; he was quite earthy.””

    — Rising Star: The Making of Barack Obama by David Garrow
    http://a.co/6eSz6lu
     

    http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130108030712/clubpenguin/images/thumb/5/50/276255_Papel-de-Parede-Meme-Obama-Not-Bad_1280x1024.jpg/300px-276255_Papel-de-Parede-Meme-Obama-Not-Bad_1280x1024.jpg

    Intercourse was pleasant, and in bed “he neither came off as experienced or inexperienced,” she later recalled.

    You can’t help wondering how many sex partners Genevieve is rating Barack against–10, 25, 50? It’s an odd way for a woman to present herself publicly, or at least it used to be.

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @Kronos
    The interesting part is that Bill Ayers tried to woo her to bed (unsuccessfully) seven months prior to her meeting Barry Obama.

    That evening stood in sharp contrast to Genevieve’s rejection of a dinner host seven months earlier. That spring she had taken a course at Bank Street that involved having the students share recipes with their classmates. Three decades later Genevieve still had the “Floating Island Pudding” she shared as well as “Zayd’s Catsup,” a contribution from a thirty-seven-year-old classmate. At the end of the semester, that classmate invited her to dinner at his apartment at 520 West 123rd Street #5W.

    Five-year-old Zayd and his two-year-old brother Malik were asleep, as was Chesa, another almost two-year-old member of the household, whose mother and father were both in prison. Genevieve was initially surprised that the only food her host had for dinner was grapes, but it quickly became clear what he wanted for dessert. He explained that he was in an open relationship; he and his partner had been leading figures a decade earlier in a group whose slogans included “Smash Monogamy!”

    His partner was not coming home that night; indeed she was residing involuntarily at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in lower Manhattan, where she would remain for another six months. “He gave getting me into bed quite a good go,” Genevieve recalled, but with a thirteen-year age difference between them, he “seemed awfully old to me!” Her host “was quite miffed that I was not impressed by his ‘status’” as a notorious former radical, albeit one whose FBI “Wanted” poster made him appear to have just fallen out of bed rather than striving to get into one. He “backed off when I wasn’t interested,” and Genevieve’s rebuff may have had a greater impact than she realized.

    — Rising Star: The Making of Barack Obama by David Garrow
    http://a.co/fyqGX9n
     

    Many years later Barry and Bill worked together on education reform for Chicago Schools.
  17. @Kronos
    I’m now currently reading (well listening to) David Garrow’s “Rising Star” biography on Barack Obama. It’s highly detailed and does a superb job capturing various angles through the life of Barry Obama. (He apparently hates being called Barry so I’ll refer to him as such.) One of the angles of note is the public perception of community organizing. When Barry started in Chicago in the mid 1980s, it wasn’t seen as a glamorous position. The best and brightest of the boomer yuppies were jockeying for far more prestigious positions with higher pay. Many were surprised at Harvard Law School that Obama turned down an essentially assured Supreme Court clerkship for “community organizing” in Chicago after graduation.

    While I’m only 1/2 finished with the book and it’ll end before the Obama Presidency, Garrow’s book (and your book too Steve) strongly suggest that Obama found himself a niche profession in community organizing. One that intersected between poor people, wealthy foundations, and regional/global elites.

    My educated guess is that after the 2008 Great Recession, ”Mau-Mauing” style college campus community organizing become a “rising star” profession. Young Millennials were frozen out of entry-level areas of traditionally glorious professions (law, banking, etc.) Some joined “Teach for America” in droves as pointed out by EducationRealist, while others tried the community organizing approach. This proved a fairly easy way for parents to dump their higher functioning Greta Thunbergs after graduating from College. Keep in mind “Wokeness“ is 1990s Boomer urban liberalism on steroids. It’s not a surprise that Clinton Democrats like mommy and daddy support woke organizations that profess radical cultural upheaval while leaving economics on the laissez-faire back burner.

    Such organizations were able to “infiltrate, initiate, and detonate” Occupy WallStreet into atomization. Many were organized around universities which aren’t known as genuine bastions of the working class. So it’s not really a surprise that many were rewarded by “Woke Capital” for fragmenting a potential threat within the Democratic Party.

    https://www.amazon.com/Rising-Star-Making-Barack-Obama/dp/0062641832

    P.S. Garrow’s book is very detailed. Here’s a section regarding one of Barry’s old girlfriends.


    Over the next four weeks, Genevieve continued to record in her journal her reactions to Barack. Intercourse was pleasant, and in bed “he neither came off as experienced or inexperienced,” she later recalled. “Sexually he really wasn’t very imaginative, but he was comfortable. He was no kind of shrinking ‘Can’t handle it. This is invasive’ or ‘I’m timid’ in any way; he was quite earthy.””

    — Rising Star: The Making of Barack Obama by David Garrow
    http://a.co/6eSz6lu
     

    http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130108030712/clubpenguin/images/thumb/5/50/276255_Papel-de-Parede-Meme-Obama-Not-Bad_1280x1024.jpg/300px-276255_Papel-de-Parede-Meme-Obama-Not-Bad_1280x1024.jpg

    Obama found himself a niche profession in community organizing. One that intersected between poor people, wealthy foundations, and regional/global elites.

    My educated guess is that after the 2008 Great Recession, ”Mau-Mauing” style college campus community organizing become a “rising star” profession

    Good comment.

    Steve Sailer, in an earlier post about Micah White and his wife‘s radical-activist consultancy, had the same idea (“Boutique Activist Consultancy,” iSteve, Sept. 9, 2017; the first-ever post here mentioning Micah White, the current one being the second):

    How many of these Late Obama Age Collapse movements are attempts by mixed race kids like Micah White to cash in the way Obama did?

    The parallels between the two are striking. the Black father, White mother angle; the State Department connections; the elite education; the similar choice of careers in their 20s and early 30s.

    Micah White is 21 years younger, which means the late 2000s and 2010s were for Micah what the late 1980s and 1990s were for Barack.

    • Replies: @1661er

    elite education
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Graduate_School

    EGS is licensed as a university in Malta[8] and is recognized in the Swiss canton where it operates,[9] but is not recognized by the Swiss University Conference, the main regulatory body for universities in Switzerland.[10]

    Teaching is mostly remote, with required attendance for short periods at the school; ad hoc meetings in various cities also take place.

    Notable faculty members have included Giorgio Agamben,[12] Chantal Akerman,[13] Pierre Alféri[14] Judith Butler,[15] Achille Mbembe,[16] Avital Ronell,[17] and Sandy Stone.[18]

     

    I doubt he will be able to get any academic/corporate/government/international nonprofit jobs based on his graduate degree. You have to wonder if he is another boytoy of Avital Ronell.
  18. Lmaooooo

    2021: Chapo Trap House podcast records live from Davos

  19. Anonymous[121] • Disclaimer says:

    Thanks Hail for the link to his squeeze…

    https://www.chiararicciardone.net/

    Her page is an academic’s version of a sales pitch. The reader is supposed to understand that Chiara is accomplished. Okay. WTF. She should try eliminating all status markers. Nix the name dropping. And if you’re a damn writer then put some of your writing right up front and center. It’s who you are for chrissakes.

    ——snip—–

    DOING THINGS WITH WORDS

    I am the Klemens von Klemperer Postdoctoral Fellow at the Hannah Arendt Center of Bard College

    —–/snip—–

    Btw that is the first .net website I’ve been to in years. Old school cool.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    “How do humans conceive, experience, and represent difference? How do differences organize personal subjectivity and the political world? And how can diversity be made to co-exist with equality?”

    That’s some classic academic bs jargon.
    , @Known Fact
    Not as prestigious as being a Werner Klemperer Postdoctoral Fellow
  20. @Hail
    MICAH WHITE
    - born 1982, reportedly to a White mother and Black father in Milwaukee;
    - 2000: Graduates from high school in Grand Blanc, Michigan; had been active in high school protesting against the pledge of allegiance and forming/leading a militant "Atheist Club," which clashed with a Bible Study student group; Micah's Atheist Club's whose goal was ''to keep our school as secular as possible;"
    - 2004: Earns BA, Swarthmore College, major: Philosophy, double minor in Interpretation Theory and Film & Media Studies;
    - Mid 2000s: Begins romantic involvement with Chiara Ricciardone (MA, 2009, SUNY Binghamton; PhD, 2017, Rhetoric, Berkeley), whom he met at Swarthmore (they both had minors in Interpretation Theory); the two have been romantically involved since then (now married, one son); Chiara is the daughter of Ambassador Francis Ricciardone (b.1952; career diplomat from 1978, with multiple high-profile full-ambassadorships in the 2000s and 2010s);
    - 2012: Micah earns a PhD from European Graduate School in Switzerland with a dissertation called "Post-Search: Libraries, Search Engines and the Organization of Knowledge," the summary of which is not very elucidating to me:

    This dissertation examines the meaning of searching by exploring the origins and consequences of the two dominant ways of organizing knowledge: libraries and search engines. I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.
     
    - Sept. 2011 to present: Micah is a moderately high-profile left-wing activist following Occupy Wall Street, but was actually already near power at age 17, having an Op-Ed published in the New York Times("Atheists Under Siege," June 1999) and appearing on an Aug. 1999 episode of Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher as a panelist on a "special teen episode."

    On how he got the idea for Occupy Wall Street (from 2014 interview with Esquire):


    [The Arab Spring] was absolutely crucial for my own development because I have lived in Egypt for nine months in, like, you know, 2005 or 2006. My wife’s father is a former ambassador to Egypt. I remember staying at the embassy and seeing, like, how many police officers Mubarak would employ to, like, keep order in his society. I mean, I remember seeing that and I remember thinking, at the time, like, “Wow. A revolution would be impossible here with all these police officers.” Like, they would have dozens and dozens and dozens of police officers everywhere. Then, lo and behold, a revolution happened in Tahir Square. That opened my eyes.
     
    He co-founded Occupy Wall Street with Kalle Lasn (b.1942 in Estonia), who seems like an Unz Review writer.

    In any case, Micah White is no turncoat who sold out to Davos. He was close all along; every part of his biography bears this out.

    >I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.

    He means people will no longer use google to discover new information, they will have content thrown at them by their chosen providers. Which actually happened. Google search has become basically useless and people interface with the wider internet through facebook/twitter feeds. So give this guy credit for noticing it at the beginning of the trend.

    These professional class “socialist” careerists are disgusting, but they are smart and they know how to get what they want. We can learn from them.

    • Replies: @Hail
    Thanks, Not My Economy, that makes sense the way you say it.

    I would question whether the people who've been sucked deep into social media quicksand are engaging with 'knowledge' at all (as per his thesis title: “Post-Search: Libraries, Search Engines and the Organization of Knowledge”).

    Another thought: I don't know that I agree that (google-)searching is somehow on the clear decline today, replaced by some kind of emerging endless Twitter and Facebook feed you can never turn off, like the televisions in Orwell's 1984.

    The Endless Twitter Feed You Can Never Turn Off era may be approaching, I guess, and something like it is clearly much more important today that it was when Micah White was at the "European Graduate School" (2006–2012).

    While Google-searching is still, afaict, highly dominant in the West, there has been a real trend towards the Wikipedization of knowledge, the funneling people into approved avenues of knowledge.

  21. Man this guy is further proof that white girls crave Men of Color

    You guys need to watch Ramy to see how white girls have sexual relations with Men of Color

    • Replies: @Kronos
    There’s some partial truth to that. But I believe it mainly stems with “men of color” being the least de-masculinized in US society. Women generally prefer strong alpha male types that eschew dominance and are desired by other women. Since the 1960s, feminists and beta/gamma males have led an all out war against white good looking alpha males. Alpha behavior is strongly frowned upon and heavily pressured toward modification. MoCs are largely excepted from such societal pressure (see average rap video) on account of feminist and beta/gamma males fearing being labeled racist.

    I combine beta from “The Rational Male” definition and gamma from “Vox Day’s” definition. Both definitions are slightly different but both encompass weak weasel-like men that’ll love nothing more than to remove those that possess alpha traits. The black guy may appear assertive/exciting and thus naturally attract women. Though, as Nichole Simpson found out she might be playing a dangerous game. Or sometimes it’s all an act and the guy is actually quite passive.

    https://youtu.be/NlwGy0sFXEw

    https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Male-Rollo-Tomassi/dp/1492777862

    Now that you’ve brought this up, I realize Barry Obama was an unfortunate victim of the “Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks” dichotomy. Obama Sr. was your stereotypical black alpha who married and knocked-up multiple women. Afterwords, his mother “Stanley-Ann” later married a fairly wealthy/successful beta named Lolo Soetoro who raised little Barry as his own. But Ann remained unhappy and pined as a “alpha widow” for Obama Sr.

    http://rebelliousdevelopment.com/alpha-fucks-vs-beta-bucks/

    https://therationalmale.com/2019/07/31/alpha-widows/

    , @anon
    Man this guy is further proof that white girls crave Men of Color

    Oh, Tinys! So true!

    https://cdn2.atlantamagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2015/04/0415_bluemangroup_oneuseonly-696x435.jpg
  22. @Harry Baldwin
    Intercourse was pleasant, and in bed “he neither came off as experienced or inexperienced,” she later recalled.

    You can't help wondering how many sex partners Genevieve is rating Barack against--10, 25, 50? It's an odd way for a woman to present herself publicly, or at least it used to be.

    The interesting part is that Bill Ayers tried to woo her to bed (unsuccessfully) seven months prior to her meeting Barry Obama.

    That evening stood in sharp contrast to Genevieve’s rejection of a dinner host seven months earlier. That spring she had taken a course at Bank Street that involved having the students share recipes with their classmates. Three decades later Genevieve still had the “Floating Island Pudding” she shared as well as “Zayd’s Catsup,” a contribution from a thirty-seven-year-old classmate. At the end of the semester, that classmate invited her to dinner at his apartment at 520 West 123rd Street #5W.

    Five-year-old Zayd and his two-year-old brother Malik were asleep, as was Chesa, another almost two-year-old member of the household, whose mother and father were both in prison. Genevieve was initially surprised that the only food her host had for dinner was grapes, but it quickly became clear what he wanted for dessert. He explained that he was in an open relationship; he and his partner had been leading figures a decade earlier in a group whose slogans included “Smash Monogamy!”

    His partner was not coming home that night; indeed she was residing involuntarily at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in lower Manhattan, where she would remain for another six months. “He gave getting me into bed quite a good go,” Genevieve recalled, but with a thirteen-year age difference between them, he “seemed awfully old to me!” Her host “was quite miffed that I was not impressed by his ‘status’” as a notorious former radical, albeit one whose FBI “Wanted” poster made him appear to have just fallen out of bed rather than striving to get into one. He “backed off when I wasn’t interested,” and Genevieve’s rebuff may have had a greater impact than she realized.

    — Rising Star: The Making of Barack Obama by David Garrow
    http://a.co/fyqGX9n

    Many years later Barry and Bill worked together on education reform for Chicago Schools.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    If you were married to Bernadine Dohrn, you'd want to smash monogamy too.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    ...albeit one whose FBI “Wanted” poster made him appear to have just fallen out of bed rather than striving to get into one

    That's rather droll.
    , @Anonymous

    Five-year-old Zayd and his two-year-old brother Malik were asleep [in Bill Ayers well-staffed house], as was Chesa, another almost two-year-old member of the household, whose mother and father were both in prison.
     
    That would be Chesa Boudin, already on the Left Establishment career escalator that would lead him to become DA in San Francisco, a successor in that job of current senatrix Kamala Harris.
  23. So, has the “cofounder” of the Tea Party been invited to Davos?

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @yaph
    The Koch brothers? Almost definitely.
  24. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Here’s a quote from the article that made me laugh:
    “The question I’m most often asked is: what do you hope to achieve by participating in the World Economic Forum?”

    I’d give Mr.White a lot of credit if he had answered honestly. “I hope to get the opportunity to join the 1% I’ve been protesting against.”

    And thus it has always been. Revolutionary movements just a manifestation of the age old urge to grab the throne for oneself, cloaked in SJWism. After the October Revolution, the primary impetus behind Soviet policy was to keep Lenin (and then Stalin) ensconced in luxury in the Kremlin. Same with Mao after 1949, etc, etc...

    NJ Transit Commuter wrote:

    Revolutionary movements just a manifestation of the age old urge to grab the throne for oneself, cloaked in SJWism.

    One thing that is too rarely stated is that these people who lust after power — those who hold it and those who yearn to hold it — are truly mentally disturbed.

    This is not how normal human beings think and behave.

    For most of us, trying to control our kids up till they reach the age of eighteen is exhausting enough. We don’t want to control our neighbors or people we have never met or people who have different goals and desires than we do or people who live halfway around the world.

    We want to live our own lives, not manage others’ lives.

    I wonder if the sickness from which these people suffer is due to a hatred of their own lives, or an inability to control their own lives, and therefore they “compensate” by trying to live others’ lives.

    In a sane society, we would view these as people who need help, not people who should be trusted with any responsibility or authority.

    • Replies: @Kronos

    One thing that is too rarely stated is that these people who lust after power — those who hold it and those who yearn to hold it — are truly mentally disturbed.

     

    I’ve known a few in my day.

    https://youtu.be/Sg14jNbBb-8
    , @nebulafox
    Very high-functioning psychopaths will often try to attain power within the corporate or political world so they can dominate the lives of as many people as possible, for their own amusement. When you combine this with the fact that modern US politics is more akin to theater put on by our bipartisan elites than anything else, thus selecting for the most natural and shameless actors (psychopaths don't care about being embarrassed or degrading themselves) who will also casually subject themselves and everyone around them to hellish 24/7 media attention down to the most minute details of their lives and be OK with it, this is a dangerous situation.

    I don't think psychopaths can be cured, by definition. They simply lack the brain machinery to change. We'll always have them, and they'll always be attracted to dangerous new movements because of the power and goodies it can offer them. But must we specifically tailor our politics in 21st Century America to almost *ensure* that they'll float to the top?

    , @Redneck farmer
    Dave, you ain't no Man Of Destiny.
    , @Bitfu
    You might enjoy a book that's been around a while--The Lucifer Principle. Even though I didn't agree with everything, it was thought provoking all the way through.

    The Lucifer Principle is a book by Howard Bloom, in which the author argues that social groups, not individuals, are the primary "unit of selection" on genes and human psychological development. He states that both competition between groups and competition between individuals shape the evolution of the genome. Bloom "explores the intricate relationships among genetics, human behavior, and culture" and argues that "evil is a by-product of nature's strategies for creation and that it is woven into our most basic biological fabric".[1] It sees selection (i.e. through violent competition) as central to the creation of the 'superorganism'[2] of society. It also focuses on competition between individuals for position in the 'pecking order' and competition between groups for standing in pecking orders of groups. The Lucifer Principle shows how ideas are vital in creating cohesion and cooperation in these pecking order battles. Says The Lucifer Principle: "Superorganism, ideas and the pecking order...these are the primary forces behind much of human creativity and earthly good."
     
    , @Kratoklastes

    I wonder if the sickness from which these people suffer is due to a hatred of their own lives, or an inability to control their own lives, and therefore they “compensate” by trying to live others’ lives.
     
    It's far less than that... it's just pure ol' greed, with sociopathy and megalomania providing the overlay that inures them from any remorse about the underlying false promise of everything the pretend to represent.

    Being a politician is like being a 'captain of industry', but without any risk of a customer boycott.

    It's the same grift as priests have used for millennia (i.e., pay for our upkeep, and do as we say... or society will go to shit). And eventually it always ends in financial collapse and death squads. Not always in that order.

    , @S. Anonyia
    Based on your premise we should all be anarchists.

    For obvious reasons that won’t last long.

    People want power because someone has to hold it in 99 percent of societies (maybe not Iceland). Their reasoning for seeking power or wanting to overturn the power is that they believe current powers are doing a bad job.

    Some are mentally twisted, but not all.
  25. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:

    Nothing new here-
    Leftist living in his isolated ideological moral crusade dream world starts a “movement” and gets a taste of real power.
    Real power tastes good.
    Money people find a use for him and give him cash. He gladly accepts.
    The ideological moral crusade show is a nice diverion for half of the populace, who are idiots, and serves the interests of the money people after all.
    So the Wall Street protester is happy to be bought by Wall Street and he and his followers still believe in their dreams and become professional mavericks.

    If democracy is going to work the majority of the people (most people most of the time) have to learn to spot these types and hate them.

  26. @PhysicistDave
    NJ Transit Commuter wrote:

    Revolutionary movements just a manifestation of the age old urge to grab the throne for oneself, cloaked in SJWism.
     
    One thing that is too rarely stated is that these people who lust after power -- those who hold it and those who yearn to hold it -- are truly mentally disturbed.

    This is not how normal human beings think and behave.

    For most of us, trying to control our kids up till they reach the age of eighteen is exhausting enough. We don't want to control our neighbors or people we have never met or people who have different goals and desires than we do or people who live halfway around the world.

    We want to live our own lives, not manage others' lives.

    I wonder if the sickness from which these people suffer is due to a hatred of their own lives, or an inability to control their own lives, and therefore they "compensate" by trying to live others' lives.

    In a sane society, we would view these as people who need help, not people who should be trusted with any responsibility or authority.

    One thing that is too rarely stated is that these people who lust after power — those who hold it and those who yearn to hold it — are truly mentally disturbed.

    I’ve known a few in my day.

  27. @PhysicistDave
    NJ Transit Commuter wrote:

    Revolutionary movements just a manifestation of the age old urge to grab the throne for oneself, cloaked in SJWism.
     
    One thing that is too rarely stated is that these people who lust after power -- those who hold it and those who yearn to hold it -- are truly mentally disturbed.

    This is not how normal human beings think and behave.

    For most of us, trying to control our kids up till they reach the age of eighteen is exhausting enough. We don't want to control our neighbors or people we have never met or people who have different goals and desires than we do or people who live halfway around the world.

    We want to live our own lives, not manage others' lives.

    I wonder if the sickness from which these people suffer is due to a hatred of their own lives, or an inability to control their own lives, and therefore they "compensate" by trying to live others' lives.

    In a sane society, we would view these as people who need help, not people who should be trusted with any responsibility or authority.

    Very high-functioning psychopaths will often try to attain power within the corporate or political world so they can dominate the lives of as many people as possible, for their own amusement. When you combine this with the fact that modern US politics is more akin to theater put on by our bipartisan elites than anything else, thus selecting for the most natural and shameless actors (psychopaths don’t care about being embarrassed or degrading themselves) who will also casually subject themselves and everyone around them to hellish 24/7 media attention down to the most minute details of their lives and be OK with it, this is a dangerous situation.

    I don’t think psychopaths can be cured, by definition. They simply lack the brain machinery to change. We’ll always have them, and they’ll always be attracted to dangerous new movements because of the power and goodies it can offer them. But must we specifically tailor our politics in 21st Century America to almost *ensure* that they’ll float to the top?

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin, Forbes
    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    High functioning psychopaths (I call them sociopaths) need to be publicly identified and then banned from any type of leadership position in any organization.

    We _can_ do this. Yes, we can and we must.
  28. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t think psychopaths can be cured, by definition. They simply lack the brain machinery to change.

    Psychopaths don’t want to change. Being a psychopath is an easier way to go through life, living only for one’s own pleasures, blissfully unconcerned with the feelings, rights, or concerns of others.

    In any large educational, corporate, religious or political structure, psychopaths tend to rise to the top. It well may be that a sprinkling of psychopaths is a useful adaptation for a society to have. But once identified, psychopaths should be put in a position where they can’t do any serious damage to society. That is tough because psychopaths are highly adaptible at avoiding being identified when that is disadvantageous to them.

    I had a couple of family members, now deceased, whom I believe were psychopaths. We just cut them off, disconnected from them, as the scienos say.

  29. @Hail

    Obama found himself a niche profession in community organizing. One that intersected between poor people, wealthy foundations, and regional/global elites.

    My educated guess is that after the 2008 Great Recession, ”Mau-Mauing” style college campus community organizing become a “rising star” profession
     

    Good comment.

    Steve Sailer, in an earlier post about Micah White and his wife's radical-activist consultancy, had the same idea ("Boutique Activist Consultancy," iSteve, Sept. 9, 2017; the first-ever post here mentioning Micah White, the current one being the second):


    How many of these Late Obama Age Collapse movements are attempts by mixed race kids like Micah White to cash in the way Obama did?
     
    The parallels between the two are striking. the Black father, White mother angle; the State Department connections; the elite education; the similar choice of careers in their 20s and early 30s.

    Micah White is 21 years younger, which means the late 2000s and 2010s were for Micah what the late 1980s and 1990s were for Barack.

    elite education

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Graduate_School

    EGS is licensed as a university in Malta[8] and is recognized in the Swiss canton where it operates,[9] but is not recognized by the Swiss University Conference, the main regulatory body for universities in Switzerland.[10]

    Teaching is mostly remote, with required attendance for short periods at the school; ad hoc meetings in various cities also take place.

    Notable faculty members have included Giorgio Agamben,[12] Chantal Akerman,[13] Pierre Alféri[14] Judith Butler,[15] Achille Mbembe,[16] Avital Ronell,[17] and Sandy Stone.[18]

    I doubt he will be able to get any academic/corporate/government/international nonprofit jobs based on his graduate degree. You have to wonder if he is another boytoy of Avital Ronell.

    • Thanks: Hail
  30. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Here’s a quote from the article that made me laugh:
    “The question I’m most often asked is: what do you hope to achieve by participating in the World Economic Forum?”

    I’d give Mr.White a lot of credit if he had answered honestly. “I hope to get the opportunity to join the 1% I’ve been protesting against.”

    And thus it has always been. Revolutionary movements just a manifestation of the age old urge to grab the throne for oneself, cloaked in SJWism. After the October Revolution, the primary impetus behind Soviet policy was to keep Lenin (and then Stalin) ensconced in luxury in the Kremlin. Same with Mao after 1949, etc, etc...

    Eric Hoffer put it best: only upper-middle-class intellectuals & diploma-holders ever want revolution, while the really poor and the really rich tend not to want to roll the dice

  31. @Hail
    MICAH WHITE
    - born 1982, reportedly to a White mother and Black father in Milwaukee;
    - 2000: Graduates from high school in Grand Blanc, Michigan; had been active in high school protesting against the pledge of allegiance and forming/leading a militant "Atheist Club," which clashed with a Bible Study student group; Micah's Atheist Club's whose goal was ''to keep our school as secular as possible;"
    - 2004: Earns BA, Swarthmore College, major: Philosophy, double minor in Interpretation Theory and Film & Media Studies;
    - Mid 2000s: Begins romantic involvement with Chiara Ricciardone (MA, 2009, SUNY Binghamton; PhD, 2017, Rhetoric, Berkeley), whom he met at Swarthmore (they both had minors in Interpretation Theory); the two have been romantically involved since then (now married, one son); Chiara is the daughter of Ambassador Francis Ricciardone (b.1952; career diplomat from 1978, with multiple high-profile full-ambassadorships in the 2000s and 2010s);
    - 2012: Micah earns a PhD from European Graduate School in Switzerland with a dissertation called "Post-Search: Libraries, Search Engines and the Organization of Knowledge," the summary of which is not very elucidating to me:

    This dissertation examines the meaning of searching by exploring the origins and consequences of the two dominant ways of organizing knowledge: libraries and search engines. I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.
     
    - Sept. 2011 to present: Micah is a moderately high-profile left-wing activist following Occupy Wall Street, but was actually already near power at age 17, having an Op-Ed published in the New York Times("Atheists Under Siege," June 1999) and appearing on an Aug. 1999 episode of Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher as a panelist on a "special teen episode."

    On how he got the idea for Occupy Wall Street (from 2014 interview with Esquire):


    [The Arab Spring] was absolutely crucial for my own development because I have lived in Egypt for nine months in, like, you know, 2005 or 2006. My wife’s father is a former ambassador to Egypt. I remember staying at the embassy and seeing, like, how many police officers Mubarak would employ to, like, keep order in his society. I mean, I remember seeing that and I remember thinking, at the time, like, “Wow. A revolution would be impossible here with all these police officers.” Like, they would have dozens and dozens and dozens of police officers everywhere. Then, lo and behold, a revolution happened in Tahir Square. That opened my eyes.
     
    He co-founded Occupy Wall Street with Kalle Lasn (b.1942 in Estonia), who seems like an Unz Review writer.

    In any case, Micah White is no turncoat who sold out to Davos. He was close all along; every part of his biography bears this out.

    Agree.

    Also, an American with a Ph.D. from a European university generally indicates too low IQ to be admitted anywhere in the USA, and the “Dr.” had to pay $100,000+ in tuition.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    The school where he got his Ph.D., the European Graduate School in Switzerland, is not a real "European university". It's not the ETH or the University of Bern or Geneva. It's not even recognized in Switzerland, outside the Canton of Valais. It's a left-wing, Po-Mo diploma mill.
  32. @nebulafox
    Economic Right and Cultural Left are innate allies in a globalized age. Never forget it.

    • LOL: ben tillman
    • Replies: @David Davenport
    If anyone had a problem, they would simply avoid the internet and the financial system.

    Much easier said than done.
  33. @Kronos
    The interesting part is that Bill Ayers tried to woo her to bed (unsuccessfully) seven months prior to her meeting Barry Obama.

    That evening stood in sharp contrast to Genevieve’s rejection of a dinner host seven months earlier. That spring she had taken a course at Bank Street that involved having the students share recipes with their classmates. Three decades later Genevieve still had the “Floating Island Pudding” she shared as well as “Zayd’s Catsup,” a contribution from a thirty-seven-year-old classmate. At the end of the semester, that classmate invited her to dinner at his apartment at 520 West 123rd Street #5W.

    Five-year-old Zayd and his two-year-old brother Malik were asleep, as was Chesa, another almost two-year-old member of the household, whose mother and father were both in prison. Genevieve was initially surprised that the only food her host had for dinner was grapes, but it quickly became clear what he wanted for dessert. He explained that he was in an open relationship; he and his partner had been leading figures a decade earlier in a group whose slogans included “Smash Monogamy!”

    His partner was not coming home that night; indeed she was residing involuntarily at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in lower Manhattan, where she would remain for another six months. “He gave getting me into bed quite a good go,” Genevieve recalled, but with a thirteen-year age difference between them, he “seemed awfully old to me!” Her host “was quite miffed that I was not impressed by his ‘status’” as a notorious former radical, albeit one whose FBI “Wanted” poster made him appear to have just fallen out of bed rather than striving to get into one. He “backed off when I wasn’t interested,” and Genevieve’s rebuff may have had a greater impact than she realized.

    — Rising Star: The Making of Barack Obama by David Garrow
    http://a.co/fyqGX9n
     

    Many years later Barry and Bill worked together on education reform for Chicago Schools.

    If you were married to Bernadine Dohrn, you’d want to smash monogamy too.

    • Agree: fish
    • LOL: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter
    Yep, sort of like, like, you know, like Bill being married to Hill.
    , @Anonymous

    If you were married to Bernadine Dohrn, you’d want to smash monogamy too.
     
    Bernardine Rae Dohrn (born Bernardine Rae Ohrnstein)...

    Now you know the rest of the story.

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    Bernadine Dohrn was hot stuff for the New Left revolutionists. She was the pin-up girl in the Weather Underground. And like all upper middle class white Trotskyites, the Boomers in the Weather Underground used the war in Vietnam as cover for their raging case of negrophilia. The pale pencil-necks of Antifa have dispensed with the New Left pretense of being anti-war and openly embrace the anti-racism delusion.
  34. @Lot
    Agree.

    Also, an American with a Ph.D. from a European university generally indicates too low IQ to be admitted anywhere in the USA, and the “Dr.” had to pay $100,000+ in tuition.

    The school where he got his Ph.D., the European Graduate School in Switzerland, is not a real “European university”. It’s not the ETH or the University of Bern or Geneva. It’s not even recognized in Switzerland, outside the Canton of Valais. It’s a left-wing, Po-Mo diploma mill.

  35. @Hail
    MICAH WHITE
    - born 1982, reportedly to a White mother and Black father in Milwaukee;
    - 2000: Graduates from high school in Grand Blanc, Michigan; had been active in high school protesting against the pledge of allegiance and forming/leading a militant "Atheist Club," which clashed with a Bible Study student group; Micah's Atheist Club's whose goal was ''to keep our school as secular as possible;"
    - 2004: Earns BA, Swarthmore College, major: Philosophy, double minor in Interpretation Theory and Film & Media Studies;
    - Mid 2000s: Begins romantic involvement with Chiara Ricciardone (MA, 2009, SUNY Binghamton; PhD, 2017, Rhetoric, Berkeley), whom he met at Swarthmore (they both had minors in Interpretation Theory); the two have been romantically involved since then (now married, one son); Chiara is the daughter of Ambassador Francis Ricciardone (b.1952; career diplomat from 1978, with multiple high-profile full-ambassadorships in the 2000s and 2010s);
    - 2012: Micah earns a PhD from European Graduate School in Switzerland with a dissertation called "Post-Search: Libraries, Search Engines and the Organization of Knowledge," the summary of which is not very elucidating to me:

    This dissertation examines the meaning of searching by exploring the origins and consequences of the two dominant ways of organizing knowledge: libraries and search engines. I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.
     
    - Sept. 2011 to present: Micah is a moderately high-profile left-wing activist following Occupy Wall Street, but was actually already near power at age 17, having an Op-Ed published in the New York Times("Atheists Under Siege," June 1999) and appearing on an Aug. 1999 episode of Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher as a panelist on a "special teen episode."

    On how he got the idea for Occupy Wall Street (from 2014 interview with Esquire):


    [The Arab Spring] was absolutely crucial for my own development because I have lived in Egypt for nine months in, like, you know, 2005 or 2006. My wife’s father is a former ambassador to Egypt. I remember staying at the embassy and seeing, like, how many police officers Mubarak would employ to, like, keep order in his society. I mean, I remember seeing that and I remember thinking, at the time, like, “Wow. A revolution would be impossible here with all these police officers.” Like, they would have dozens and dozens and dozens of police officers everywhere. Then, lo and behold, a revolution happened in Tahir Square. That opened my eyes.
     
    He co-founded Occupy Wall Street with Kalle Lasn (b.1942 in Estonia), who seems like an Unz Review writer.

    In any case, Micah White is no turncoat who sold out to Davos. He was close all along; every part of his biography bears this out.

    Micah earns a PhD from European Graduate School in Switzerland with a dissertation called “Post-Search: Libraries, Search Engines and the Organization of Knowledge,” the summary of which is not very elucidating to me:

    This dissertation examines the meaning of searching by exploring the origins and consequences of the two dominant ways of organizing knowledge: libraries and search engines. I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.

    This one of the ideas in Neal Stephenson’s latest novel: bias and manipulation become so prevalent that people can’t agree on basic facts, such as whether and American town has been nuked or not. So people subscribe to edited feeds or information flows.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    The postmodern damage is done - I just wonder, whether Neal Stevenson can turn such an obvious fact into an interesting novel? When I think about this stuff, Heinrich Heine (On the History of Religion and Philosophy in Germany, 1835 especially) comes to my mind and I think, if it could be done at all in a good way, it would have to be in an elegant and light-headed way.
    My impression is, that Jonathan Franzen has left track of these latest Turn(s) of the Screw, unfortunately. The closest to that all in print that I have seen so far is Back to Blood, an as it looks quite underestimated novel. Not least, because Wolfe did focus on the consequences of the weakening of the factual basis of our public discourse - and television as an important news source, with its preference of the moving picture and the spoken word - and especially the combination of the two.

    (Thomas Mann succeeded in looking back this way especially in The Magic Mountain with its look back at the beginning of WW 1. I did like Doktor Faustus too, about the Nazis and WW II, but I did not go back to scenes in this novel very much. I remember some of them and think of a few from time to time, and that is it, so far.

    , @Not Raul
    Some people can't even agree on basic facts in front of their own eyes.

    Have you heard about Locustgate?

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/as-if-they-were-working-to-prove-my-point/
    , @cthulhu
    Stephenson has been negative about social media for a while; it plays a significant role in his prior novel Seveneves too. In last summer’s publicity tour for Fall: Or, Dodge in Hell, he was even more negative about social media in his interviews than he was in the book, if that’s possible :-)

    I also note that Robert Heinlein played with some of these concepts too, in his novella If This Goes On— and short novel Methuselah’s Children. The idea was that language’s effects on emotion had been developed into enough of an empirical science that ultimately the repressive government in If This Goes On— used it for propaganda purposes, and the freedom-based government in Methuselah’s Children limited broadcasters and advertisers use of language to avoid inflaming passions. Heinlein was a fan of Alfred Korbyzski’s General Semantics.
  36. It’s interesting comparing the backgrounds of woke wannabe capitalists with their arch rivals on the American First right. While the woke capitalist/activists have worked their way up the greasy establishment pole, the more nationalist economic advisers like Steve Bannon, Peter Navarro and John Paulson have come from left field and got into positions of power and influence with intelligence and enterprise.

    • Replies: @Kronos

    It’s interesting comparing the backgrounds of woke wannabe capitalists with their arch rivals on the American First right.
     
    It raises a good question on who they perceive to be public enemy number one. Currently, it might be a tossup between the dissident right and Sanders style socialists. Both groups are destined to become bigger and stronger in the next few years.
  37. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Here’s a quote from the article that made me laugh:
    “The question I’m most often asked is: what do you hope to achieve by participating in the World Economic Forum?”

    I’d give Mr.White a lot of credit if he had answered honestly. “I hope to get the opportunity to join the 1% I’ve been protesting against.”

    And thus it has always been. Revolutionary movements just a manifestation of the age old urge to grab the throne for oneself, cloaked in SJWism. After the October Revolution, the primary impetus behind Soviet policy was to keep Lenin (and then Stalin) ensconced in luxury in the Kremlin. Same with Mao after 1949, etc, etc...

    Well said, NJ.

    We have political types in my area who have a few years of young firebrand in them before they get that safe seat, that lifelong bureaucratic slot, tenure and pay raise given them prematurely to shut their yaps about whatever social justice cause they’re blathering about, established access to grant moneys and local foundation program officers.

    The phenomenon of trading ostensible social justice activism for personal advancement and loot is pretty much in-your-face at one local labor union. After inking a new concessionary contract, the union president received a promotion and pay raise. Turned out he had actually applied for and interviewed for the position during the course of contract negotiations.

    Never heard of Micah White, but “Playbook for Revolution” and “Activist Graduate School” are too cute.

    That Davos invite seems to put a perfect capstone on Mr. White’s playroom activism.

  38. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Here’s a quote from the article that made me laugh:
    “The question I’m most often asked is: what do you hope to achieve by participating in the World Economic Forum?”

    I’d give Mr.White a lot of credit if he had answered honestly. “I hope to get the opportunity to join the 1% I’ve been protesting against.”

    And thus it has always been. Revolutionary movements just a manifestation of the age old urge to grab the throne for oneself, cloaked in SJWism. After the October Revolution, the primary impetus behind Soviet policy was to keep Lenin (and then Stalin) ensconced in luxury in the Kremlin. Same with Mao after 1949, etc, etc...

    The big mover in revolutionary politics is power, not luxury – and in no case – – – taste.

    I was in a nomenclatura holiday resort for the German Democratic Republic leaders at the Baltic Sea in the summer of 1990 – everything there lacked luxury and especially taste up to the nth degree.

  39. Brilliant. Now invite AOC. Compromise all these guys. Greta, come and hector us … but you have to come in our complementary GulfStream, no trains.

  40. @Dave Pinsen

    Micah earns a PhD from European Graduate School in Switzerland with a dissertation called “Post-Search: Libraries, Search Engines and the Organization of Knowledge,” the summary of which is not very elucidating to me:

    This dissertation examines the meaning of searching by exploring the origins and consequences of the two dominant ways of organizing knowledge: libraries and search engines. I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.
     
    This one of the ideas in Neal Stephenson’s latest novel: bias and manipulation become so prevalent that people can’t agree on basic facts, such as whether and American town has been nuked or not. So people subscribe to edited feeds or information flows.

    The postmodern damage is done – I just wonder, whether Neal Stevenson can turn such an obvious fact into an interesting novel? When I think about this stuff, Heinrich Heine (On the History of Religion and Philosophy in Germany, 1835 especially) comes to my mind and I think, if it could be done at all in a good way, it would have to be in an elegant and light-headed way.
    My impression is, that Jonathan Franzen has left track of these latest Turn(s) of the Screw, unfortunately. The closest to that all in print that I have seen so far is Back to Blood, an as it looks quite underestimated novel. Not least, because Wolfe did focus on the consequences of the weakening of the factual basis of our public discourse – and television as an important news source, with its preference of the moving picture and the spoken word – and especially the combination of the two.

    (Thomas Mann succeeded in looking back this way especially in The Magic Mountain with its look back at the beginning of WW 1. I did like Doktor Faustus too, about the Nazis and WW II, but I did not go back to scenes in this novel very much. I remember some of them and think of a few from time to time, and that is it, so far.

    • Replies: @cthulhu
    Wolfe was going after the meaning and manipulation of “truth” going all the way back to These Radical Chic Evenings and Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers. Another hit at it came from his ‘70s piece The Intelligent Coed’s Guide to America, from whence came his famous phrase “The dark night of fascism is always descending in the United States and yet lands only in Europe”, and is in some part a takedown of the American Left’s worship of the Euroweenies and the deep down realization by the American Left that said Euroweenies will always hold the Americans in contempt.

    I really enjoyed Back to Blood; hopefully there’s a mostly-completed final novel in his files for a posthumous release. I miss TW terribly; he would have had exactly the correct take on our current situation.
  41. @Dave Pinsen

    Micah earns a PhD from European Graduate School in Switzerland with a dissertation called “Post-Search: Libraries, Search Engines and the Organization of Knowledge,” the summary of which is not very elucidating to me:

    This dissertation examines the meaning of searching by exploring the origins and consequences of the two dominant ways of organizing knowledge: libraries and search engines. I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.
     
    This one of the ideas in Neal Stephenson’s latest novel: bias and manipulation become so prevalent that people can’t agree on basic facts, such as whether and American town has been nuked or not. So people subscribe to edited feeds or information flows.

    Some people can’t even agree on basic facts in front of their own eyes.

    Have you heard about Locustgate?

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/as-if-they-were-working-to-prove-my-point/

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Fascinating example of Jewish totalitarianism: two quoted critics (surely representing more) are upset with Kevin Williamson because, according to them, a piece he wrote "allowed" (their word, I dare not comprehend it; if an opinion piece grew agency then the Creator is truly a Creator of marvels) somebody else to call welfare parasites "locusts" (which is somehow different than calling them welfare parasites). Clearly censorship and mob opprobrium will protect people (who provably are obnoxious welfare parasites, on video and in documents) from disapproval!
    Be aware that the comment I have written does not "allow" anyone to disagree with me.
  42. @Anonymous
    Thanks Hail for the link to his squeeze...

    https://www.chiararicciardone.net/

    Her page is an academic's version of a sales pitch. The reader is supposed to understand that Chiara is accomplished. Okay. WTF. She should try eliminating all status markers. Nix the name dropping. And if you're a damn writer then put some of your writing right up front and center. It's who you are for chrissakes.


    ------snip-----

    DOING THINGS WITH WORDS

    I am the Klemens von Klemperer Postdoctoral Fellow at the Hannah Arendt Center of Bard College

    -----/snip-----



    Btw that is the first .net website I've been to in years. Old school cool.

    “How do humans conceive, experience, and represent difference? How do differences organize personal subjectivity and the political world? And how can diversity be made to co-exist with equality?”

    That’s some classic academic bs jargon.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Forbes

    And how can diversity be made to co-exist with equality?
     
    In the usual, typical manner: By coercion--force, if necessary.
    , @Hail

    And how can diversity be made to co-exist with equality?”
     
    I read that line on her website and in your copy-paste of it; both times I thought it said,

    how can diversity be made to co-exist with quality?
     
    which would be a much bolder and more interesting question to pose.

    On closer inspection, I see it is "equality." What difference a single 'e' can make. "How can diversity be made to co-exist with equality?" is a downer question; hold onto your wallet and get ready for an 'HR'-style lecture.

  43. The other co founder of Occupy Wallstreet:

    Kalle Lasn (Estonian pronunciation: [ˈkɑlˑɛ ˈlɑsn̥]) (born March 24, 1942) is an Estonian-Canadian film maker, author, magazine editor, and activist. Near the end of World War II, his family fled Estonia and Lasn spent some time in a German refugee camp. At age seven he was resettled in Australia with his family, where he grew up and remained until the late 1960s, attending school in Canberra. In the late 1960’s, he founded a market research company in Tokyo, and in 1970, moved to Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. Over the course of twenty years, he produced documentaries for PBS and Canada’s National Film Board. He currently resides in Vancouver, British Columbia.[1]

    He is the co-founder of Adbusters magazine https://www.adbusters.org/spoof-ads

    Lasn, in collaboration with Micah White, came up with the original idea for an Occupy Wall Street (OWS) demonstration, but has been careful not to claim ownership of it.[13][14]

    In 2004, he wrote and signed an Adbusters article entitled “Why Won’t Anyone Say They Are Jewish?”, in which he identified, from a list of George W. Bush-era neoconservatives, those who happen to be Jewish

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalle_Lasn

    In other news:
    Weedparations in progressive taxation form:

    One city’s reparations program that could offer a blueprint for the nation

    Evanston, Illinois, is levying a tax on newly legalised marijuana to fund projects benefiting African Americans in recognition of the enduring effects of slavery and the war on drugs

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/19/reparations-program-evanston-illinois-african-americans-slavery

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    >taxing legal pot
    >to help blacks
    [distant sound of air sucked between teeth intensifies]
  44. I think there is something to the idea that Billionaires would rather talk about woke issues, like a transexual black person’s marriage rights, than face millions of (armed) working class people who think they’ve been cheated.

    So, has this guy just been bought off? I’m guessing he’s just in it for the fame/money. Mixed-race people don’t show a lot of loyalty to any particular group, just themselves, although they do often harbor deep grudges against White people.

  45. @Hail
    MICAH WHITE
    - born 1982, reportedly to a White mother and Black father in Milwaukee;
    - 2000: Graduates from high school in Grand Blanc, Michigan; had been active in high school protesting against the pledge of allegiance and forming/leading a militant "Atheist Club," which clashed with a Bible Study student group; Micah's Atheist Club's whose goal was ''to keep our school as secular as possible;"
    - 2004: Earns BA, Swarthmore College, major: Philosophy, double minor in Interpretation Theory and Film & Media Studies;
    - Mid 2000s: Begins romantic involvement with Chiara Ricciardone (MA, 2009, SUNY Binghamton; PhD, 2017, Rhetoric, Berkeley), whom he met at Swarthmore (they both had minors in Interpretation Theory); the two have been romantically involved since then (now married, one son); Chiara is the daughter of Ambassador Francis Ricciardone (b.1952; career diplomat from 1978, with multiple high-profile full-ambassadorships in the 2000s and 2010s);
    - 2012: Micah earns a PhD from European Graduate School in Switzerland with a dissertation called "Post-Search: Libraries, Search Engines and the Organization of Knowledge," the summary of which is not very elucidating to me:

    This dissertation examines the meaning of searching by exploring the origins and consequences of the two dominant ways of organizing knowledge: libraries and search engines. I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.
     
    - Sept. 2011 to present: Micah is a moderately high-profile left-wing activist following Occupy Wall Street, but was actually already near power at age 17, having an Op-Ed published in the New York Times("Atheists Under Siege," June 1999) and appearing on an Aug. 1999 episode of Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher as a panelist on a "special teen episode."

    On how he got the idea for Occupy Wall Street (from 2014 interview with Esquire):


    [The Arab Spring] was absolutely crucial for my own development because I have lived in Egypt for nine months in, like, you know, 2005 or 2006. My wife’s father is a former ambassador to Egypt. I remember staying at the embassy and seeing, like, how many police officers Mubarak would employ to, like, keep order in his society. I mean, I remember seeing that and I remember thinking, at the time, like, “Wow. A revolution would be impossible here with all these police officers.” Like, they would have dozens and dozens and dozens of police officers everywhere. Then, lo and behold, a revolution happened in Tahir Square. That opened my eyes.
     
    He co-founded Occupy Wall Street with Kalle Lasn (b.1942 in Estonia), who seems like an Unz Review writer.

    In any case, Micah White is no turncoat who sold out to Davos. He was close all along; every part of his biography bears this out.

    2000: Graduates from high school in Grand Blanc

    He graduated in Great White? I lolled.

    Interesting bio. Does the Department of State provide support for adult children of diplomats and their spouses to live where the employee has been posted?

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri

    "Does the Department of State provide support for adult children of diplomats and their spouses to live where the employee has been posted?"
     
    My eyebrow raised a bit at that living in Egypt with his girlfriend's Dad's government-paid-for place too. But I think it is pretty much what it says. State Department bigwigs get generous housing allotments, especially in less glamorous countries, so young Mr. White was probably staying in a spare room at Chez Ricciardone, maybe bedding down with the future Mrs. White. So, yes, he was rooming and boarding on the Federal dime for nine months, though probably not by any formal policy, just by showing up and hanging out. State Department bean counters wouldn't notice the difference, while Egypt is not very fussy about visas, and even if they were, a word from Mr. Ricciardone could probably quiet any discontent.
    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    He went from Great White to Swarthmore College. Coincidence? I. Think. NOT!
  46. @PhysicistDave
    NJ Transit Commuter wrote:

    Revolutionary movements just a manifestation of the age old urge to grab the throne for oneself, cloaked in SJWism.
     
    One thing that is too rarely stated is that these people who lust after power -- those who hold it and those who yearn to hold it -- are truly mentally disturbed.

    This is not how normal human beings think and behave.

    For most of us, trying to control our kids up till they reach the age of eighteen is exhausting enough. We don't want to control our neighbors or people we have never met or people who have different goals and desires than we do or people who live halfway around the world.

    We want to live our own lives, not manage others' lives.

    I wonder if the sickness from which these people suffer is due to a hatred of their own lives, or an inability to control their own lives, and therefore they "compensate" by trying to live others' lives.

    In a sane society, we would view these as people who need help, not people who should be trusted with any responsibility or authority.

    Dave, you ain’t no Man Of Destiny.

  47. @Hail
    MICAH WHITE
    - born 1982, reportedly to a White mother and Black father in Milwaukee;
    - 2000: Graduates from high school in Grand Blanc, Michigan; had been active in high school protesting against the pledge of allegiance and forming/leading a militant "Atheist Club," which clashed with a Bible Study student group; Micah's Atheist Club's whose goal was ''to keep our school as secular as possible;"
    - 2004: Earns BA, Swarthmore College, major: Philosophy, double minor in Interpretation Theory and Film & Media Studies;
    - Mid 2000s: Begins romantic involvement with Chiara Ricciardone (MA, 2009, SUNY Binghamton; PhD, 2017, Rhetoric, Berkeley), whom he met at Swarthmore (they both had minors in Interpretation Theory); the two have been romantically involved since then (now married, one son); Chiara is the daughter of Ambassador Francis Ricciardone (b.1952; career diplomat from 1978, with multiple high-profile full-ambassadorships in the 2000s and 2010s);
    - 2012: Micah earns a PhD from European Graduate School in Switzerland with a dissertation called "Post-Search: Libraries, Search Engines and the Organization of Knowledge," the summary of which is not very elucidating to me:

    This dissertation examines the meaning of searching by exploring the origins and consequences of the two dominant ways of organizing knowledge: libraries and search engines. I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.
     
    - Sept. 2011 to present: Micah is a moderately high-profile left-wing activist following Occupy Wall Street, but was actually already near power at age 17, having an Op-Ed published in the New York Times("Atheists Under Siege," June 1999) and appearing on an Aug. 1999 episode of Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher as a panelist on a "special teen episode."

    On how he got the idea for Occupy Wall Street (from 2014 interview with Esquire):


    [The Arab Spring] was absolutely crucial for my own development because I have lived in Egypt for nine months in, like, you know, 2005 or 2006. My wife’s father is a former ambassador to Egypt. I remember staying at the embassy and seeing, like, how many police officers Mubarak would employ to, like, keep order in his society. I mean, I remember seeing that and I remember thinking, at the time, like, “Wow. A revolution would be impossible here with all these police officers.” Like, they would have dozens and dozens and dozens of police officers everywhere. Then, lo and behold, a revolution happened in Tahir Square. That opened my eyes.
     
    He co-founded Occupy Wall Street with Kalle Lasn (b.1942 in Estonia), who seems like an Unz Review writer.

    In any case, Micah White is no turncoat who sold out to Davos. He was close all along; every part of his biography bears this out.

    This dissertation examines the meaning of searching by exploring the origins and consequences of the two dominant ways of organizing knowledge: libraries and search engines. I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.

    Ooh he’s quite the intellectual powerhouse!

  48. @newrouter
    >I remember staying at the embassy and seeing, like, how many police officers Mubarak would employ to, like, keep order in his society. I mean, I remember seeing that and I remember thinking, at the time, like, “Wow. A revolution would be impossible here with all these police officers.” Like, they would have dozens and dozens and dozens of police officers everywhere.<

    I hope he got some "likes" on his Twitter page.

    So, in the Current Year, you can, like, not bother to have any meaningful content at all.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    Content is all that's left - what that content is about, is only important in that it signifies The Power System.
  49. @PhysicistDave
    NJ Transit Commuter wrote:

    Revolutionary movements just a manifestation of the age old urge to grab the throne for oneself, cloaked in SJWism.
     
    One thing that is too rarely stated is that these people who lust after power -- those who hold it and those who yearn to hold it -- are truly mentally disturbed.

    This is not how normal human beings think and behave.

    For most of us, trying to control our kids up till they reach the age of eighteen is exhausting enough. We don't want to control our neighbors or people we have never met or people who have different goals and desires than we do or people who live halfway around the world.

    We want to live our own lives, not manage others' lives.

    I wonder if the sickness from which these people suffer is due to a hatred of their own lives, or an inability to control their own lives, and therefore they "compensate" by trying to live others' lives.

    In a sane society, we would view these as people who need help, not people who should be trusted with any responsibility or authority.

    You might enjoy a book that’s been around a while–The Lucifer Principle. Even though I didn’t agree with everything, it was thought provoking all the way through.

    The Lucifer Principle is a book by Howard Bloom, in which the author argues that social groups, not individuals, are the primary “unit of selection” on genes and human psychological development. He states that both competition between groups and competition between individuals shape the evolution of the genome. Bloom “explores the intricate relationships among genetics, human behavior, and culture” and argues that “evil is a by-product of nature’s strategies for creation and that it is woven into our most basic biological fabric”.[1] It sees selection (i.e. through violent competition) as central to the creation of the ‘superorganism'[2] of society. It also focuses on competition between individuals for position in the ‘pecking order’ and competition between groups for standing in pecking orders of groups. The Lucifer Principle shows how ideas are vital in creating cohesion and cooperation in these pecking order battles. Says The Lucifer Principle: “Superorganism, ideas and the pecking order…these are the primary forces behind much of human creativity and earthly good.”

    • Replies: @Gabe Ruth
    Sounds complementary to Rene Girard, scapegoating to end the cycle of mimetic rivalry being foundational to all societies. (He overstates the case in my opinion, but in just a midwit.)

    Is there any mention in that book of Voyage to Arcturus? I know Bloom was very interested in it, wrote a sequel or something.
    , @Pericles

    The Lucifer Principle is a book by Howard Bloom, in which the author argues that social groups, not individuals, are the primary “unit of selection” on genes and human psychological development

     

    We only had to listen.
  50. @Lurker
    So, in the Current Year, you can, like, not bother to have any meaningful content at all.

    Content is all that’s left – what that content is about, is only important in that it signifies The Power System.

  51. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Here’s a quote from the article that made me laugh:
    “The question I’m most often asked is: what do you hope to achieve by participating in the World Economic Forum?”

    I’d give Mr.White a lot of credit if he had answered honestly. “I hope to get the opportunity to join the 1% I’ve been protesting against.”

    And thus it has always been. Revolutionary movements just a manifestation of the age old urge to grab the throne for oneself, cloaked in SJWism. After the October Revolution, the primary impetus behind Soviet policy was to keep Lenin (and then Stalin) ensconced in luxury in the Kremlin. Same with Mao after 1949, etc, etc...

    No, Transit Commuter. No!

    Setting aside the example of the Davos-bound former OWS leader, human motivation does not conform to the narrow, cynical view that you and others on this thread ascribe to it. Consider that the liberties you enjoy as an American, however truncated they’ve become, are owed to the noblesse oblige of revolutionaries – Washington, Jefferson, Franklin and so forth. If the rise of sociopaths into institutions of power – notably the state – may be thought a theme of human history, this view has to it a countervailing theme of well-intentioned people and leaders rising up in defiance of the systems of exploitation and oppression made in the consequence. I suppose even those at the start of terribly misguided revolutionary movements such as theocracy, communism or socialism are mostly well-intended – but then it’s inevitable that the Total State made of their idealism soon becomes host of the more common human attributes of self-interest, venality and greed… Thus the enduring wisdom of the founders in limited government.

  52. I think your theory is not merely possible, but probable.

    What is Micah White’s ethnicity per his 4 grandparents ancestry of origin and the religious affiliations/training of White and his parents?

    Has Mike Jones ever looked into that?

  53. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Here’s a quote from the article that made me laugh:
    “The question I’m most often asked is: what do you hope to achieve by participating in the World Economic Forum?”

    I’d give Mr.White a lot of credit if he had answered honestly. “I hope to get the opportunity to join the 1% I’ve been protesting against.”

    And thus it has always been. Revolutionary movements just a manifestation of the age old urge to grab the throne for oneself, cloaked in SJWism. After the October Revolution, the primary impetus behind Soviet policy was to keep Lenin (and then Stalin) ensconced in luxury in the Kremlin. Same with Mao after 1949, etc, etc...

    There used to be a rugby song to the tune of “The Red Flag” which began

    “The working class can kiss my arse
    I’ve got the foreman’s job at last”

  54. @Mr. Anon
    If you were married to Bernadine Dohrn, you'd want to smash monogamy too.

    Yep, sort of like, like, you know, like Bill being married to Hill.

  55. You can be against Wall St., but still enjoy skiing, so why not go to Davos?

    • Replies: @Joe Schmoe
    Davos sure does look uber white.
  56. @Hail
    Am I the only one surprised that Micah White looks like this:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOnRvx6WoAc4uRM.jpg:large

    In the 19th century, the Anglo-Zionist Empire Part 1, the Brit WASP Empire, created the first global ‘affirmative action’ program. The Brit WASPs selected a number of young men from around the Empire to be trained to be Imperial Elite. The vast majority of peoples native to the British Isles were, of course, not merely quite poor, but held into that place by law and custom that to the average WASP is more sacred than any revealed religion. The entire time that the Brit WASP Empire was the wealthiest in world history, large numbers of its peoples native to the islands were forced to emigrate in order not to remain rather desperately poor.

    And at the same time, the Brit WASP Elites were delighting in spending small fortunes to raise up non-white and non-Christian elites from around the imperial globe.

    Micah White is in a long line of people used by the Anglo-Zionist Elite to secure their wealth and power at the continued, and deepening, expense of the vast majority of whites not merely in the world, but of the British Isles and the descendants of British Isles natives.

  57. @George
    The other co founder of Occupy Wallstreet:

    Kalle Lasn (Estonian pronunciation: [ˈkɑlˑɛ ˈlɑsn̥]) (born March 24, 1942) is an Estonian-Canadian film maker, author, magazine editor, and activist. Near the end of World War II, his family fled Estonia and Lasn spent some time in a German refugee camp. At age seven he was resettled in Australia with his family, where he grew up and remained until the late 1960s, attending school in Canberra. In the late 1960's, he founded a market research company in Tokyo, and in 1970, moved to Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. Over the course of twenty years, he produced documentaries for PBS and Canada’s National Film Board. He currently resides in Vancouver, British Columbia.[1]

    He is the co-founder of Adbusters magazine https://www.adbusters.org/spoof-ads

    Lasn, in collaboration with Micah White, came up with the original idea for an Occupy Wall Street (OWS) demonstration, but has been careful not to claim ownership of it.[13][14]

    In 2004, he wrote and signed an Adbusters article entitled "Why Won't Anyone Say They Are Jewish?", in which he identified, from a list of George W. Bush-era neoconservatives, those who happen to be Jewish

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalle_Lasn

    In other news:
    Weedparations in progressive taxation form:

    One city's reparations program that could offer a blueprint for the nation

    Evanston, Illinois, is levying a tax on newly legalised marijuana to fund projects benefiting African Americans in recognition of the enduring effects of slavery and the war on drugs

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/19/reparations-program-evanston-illinois-african-americans-slavery

    >taxing legal pot
    >to help blacks
    [distant sound of air sucked between teeth intensifies]

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    >taxing legal pot
    >to help blacks
    [distant sound of air sucked between teeth intensifies]
     
    One toke over the line, sweet Jesus...


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t8tdmaEhMHE
  58. @Not Raul
    Some people can't even agree on basic facts in front of their own eyes.

    Have you heard about Locustgate?

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/as-if-they-were-working-to-prove-my-point/

    Fascinating example of Jewish totalitarianism: two quoted critics (surely representing more) are upset with Kevin Williamson because, according to them, a piece he wrote “allowed” (their word, I dare not comprehend it; if an opinion piece grew agency then the Creator is truly a Creator of marvels) somebody else to call welfare parasites “locusts” (which is somehow different than calling them welfare parasites). Clearly censorship and mob opprobrium will protect people (who provably are obnoxious welfare parasites, on video and in documents) from disapproval!
    Be aware that the comment I have written does not “allow” anyone to disagree with me.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    That's nothing. Imagine if it had allowed "bedbugs"! Now that would have been a scandal.
  59. @Kronos
    The interesting part is that Bill Ayers tried to woo her to bed (unsuccessfully) seven months prior to her meeting Barry Obama.

    That evening stood in sharp contrast to Genevieve’s rejection of a dinner host seven months earlier. That spring she had taken a course at Bank Street that involved having the students share recipes with their classmates. Three decades later Genevieve still had the “Floating Island Pudding” she shared as well as “Zayd’s Catsup,” a contribution from a thirty-seven-year-old classmate. At the end of the semester, that classmate invited her to dinner at his apartment at 520 West 123rd Street #5W.

    Five-year-old Zayd and his two-year-old brother Malik were asleep, as was Chesa, another almost two-year-old member of the household, whose mother and father were both in prison. Genevieve was initially surprised that the only food her host had for dinner was grapes, but it quickly became clear what he wanted for dessert. He explained that he was in an open relationship; he and his partner had been leading figures a decade earlier in a group whose slogans included “Smash Monogamy!”

    His partner was not coming home that night; indeed she was residing involuntarily at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in lower Manhattan, where she would remain for another six months. “He gave getting me into bed quite a good go,” Genevieve recalled, but with a thirteen-year age difference between them, he “seemed awfully old to me!” Her host “was quite miffed that I was not impressed by his ‘status’” as a notorious former radical, albeit one whose FBI “Wanted” poster made him appear to have just fallen out of bed rather than striving to get into one. He “backed off when I wasn’t interested,” and Genevieve’s rebuff may have had a greater impact than she realized.

    — Rising Star: The Making of Barack Obama by David Garrow
    http://a.co/fyqGX9n
     

    Many years later Barry and Bill worked together on education reform for Chicago Schools.

    …albeit one whose FBI “Wanted” poster made him appear to have just fallen out of bed rather than striving to get into one

    That’s rather droll.

  60. @Hail
    MICAH WHITE
    - born 1982, reportedly to a White mother and Black father in Milwaukee;
    - 2000: Graduates from high school in Grand Blanc, Michigan; had been active in high school protesting against the pledge of allegiance and forming/leading a militant "Atheist Club," which clashed with a Bible Study student group; Micah's Atheist Club's whose goal was ''to keep our school as secular as possible;"
    - 2004: Earns BA, Swarthmore College, major: Philosophy, double minor in Interpretation Theory and Film & Media Studies;
    - Mid 2000s: Begins romantic involvement with Chiara Ricciardone (MA, 2009, SUNY Binghamton; PhD, 2017, Rhetoric, Berkeley), whom he met at Swarthmore (they both had minors in Interpretation Theory); the two have been romantically involved since then (now married, one son); Chiara is the daughter of Ambassador Francis Ricciardone (b.1952; career diplomat from 1978, with multiple high-profile full-ambassadorships in the 2000s and 2010s);
    - 2012: Micah earns a PhD from European Graduate School in Switzerland with a dissertation called "Post-Search: Libraries, Search Engines and the Organization of Knowledge," the summary of which is not very elucidating to me:

    This dissertation examines the meaning of searching by exploring the origins and consequences of the two dominant ways of organizing knowledge: libraries and search engines. I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.
     
    - Sept. 2011 to present: Micah is a moderately high-profile left-wing activist following Occupy Wall Street, but was actually already near power at age 17, having an Op-Ed published in the New York Times("Atheists Under Siege," June 1999) and appearing on an Aug. 1999 episode of Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher as a panelist on a "special teen episode."

    On how he got the idea for Occupy Wall Street (from 2014 interview with Esquire):


    [The Arab Spring] was absolutely crucial for my own development because I have lived in Egypt for nine months in, like, you know, 2005 or 2006. My wife’s father is a former ambassador to Egypt. I remember staying at the embassy and seeing, like, how many police officers Mubarak would employ to, like, keep order in his society. I mean, I remember seeing that and I remember thinking, at the time, like, “Wow. A revolution would be impossible here with all these police officers.” Like, they would have dozens and dozens and dozens of police officers everywhere. Then, lo and behold, a revolution happened in Tahir Square. That opened my eyes.
     
    He co-founded Occupy Wall Street with Kalle Lasn (b.1942 in Estonia), who seems like an Unz Review writer.

    In any case, Micah White is no turncoat who sold out to Davos. He was close all along; every part of his biography bears this out.

    First of all, Hail, thank you for providing some good bio. information, as you’ve been doing a lot lately. Reading about this guy really makes me think about some of Mr. Sailer’s writing, along with other commenters’ here, about Øb☭ma, that Kaepernick character, and other half-black/half-white men and their personality problems.

    The chances are, these characters will be a bit smarter than pure-black men. Therefore, if they have chips on their shoulders, they are more likely to be activists like this guy, causing trouble for whites, as this guy has his whole life so far, rather than just be the type ready to grab more free stuff or get in confrontations on an individual basis. It’s not like it’s all black or part-black people by any means, but over the last 5 decades, the Lyin’ Press and other institutions have pushed a narrative that creates resentment.

    In addition, the half-white guy, seemingly most with white Moms, will likely see the white side of the family as very functional, and the black side not so much, if his Dad is even around at all, cough, cough, Øb☭ma. Unless he’s really honest with himself, which most people aren’t, he’s gonna blame the black disfunction on something other than where the blame belongs. Then, because he’s one of those smart black kids, the schools and employers are going to give him every break in the book, letting him climb up the ladder to resentment high ground.

    I’m surprised Mr. White has not had his name changed at the courthouse yet, to some unpronounceable African gibberish, or else, simply Mr. Black.

    (There’s also something about having family members in high places, like this guy.)

  61. @Romanian

    2000: Graduates from high school in Grand Blanc
     
    He graduated in Great White? I lolled.

    Interesting bio. Does the Department of State provide support for adult children of diplomats and their spouses to live where the employee has been posted?

    “Does the Department of State provide support for adult children of diplomats and their spouses to live where the employee has been posted?”

    My eyebrow raised a bit at that living in Egypt with his girlfriend’s Dad’s government-paid-for place too. But I think it is pretty much what it says. State Department bigwigs get generous housing allotments, especially in less glamorous countries, so young Mr. White was probably staying in a spare room at Chez Ricciardone, maybe bedding down with the future Mrs. White. So, yes, he was rooming and boarding on the Federal dime for nine months, though probably not by any formal policy, just by showing up and hanging out. State Department bean counters wouldn’t notice the difference, while Egypt is not very fussy about visas, and even if they were, a word from Mr. Ricciardone could probably quiet any discontent.

    • Replies: @Hail
    Ambassador Ricciardone was previously posted to Egypt, in a lesser capacity, ca. the 1990s, and brought family (incl. daughter Chiara) along, at least going by this:

    INSPIRED BY my upbringing in Egypt and Turkey, and by the global wave of political action in 2011, I connect history, theory, and our techno-political present. In 2018, I was appointed Provost of the Activist Graduate School. In 2017, I co-taught a seminar on "Technology and Social Change" for the radical Telluride Association Summer Program. In 2013, I co-founded Boutique Activist Consultancy, a social change think tank.
     
    Maybe Chiara was the one who proposed going to Egypt in 2005, a place she knew from earlier in life; to which boyfriend Micah White said, "Uhh, yeah, okay, I'll go with you!"

    I wonder if wife Chiara is joining husband Micah White at Davos. Even hardcore activists deserve a five-star Swiss vacation every now and then, right?

  62. @Jonathan Mason
    You can be against Wall St., but still enjoy skiing, so why not go to Davos?

    https://www.wbcsd.org/var/site/storage/images/overview/news-insights/insider-perspective/2018-world-economic-forum-davos/58210-3-eng-GB/Insider-Perspective-2018-World-Economic-Forum-Davos_i1140.png

    Davos sure does look uber white.

  63. Occupy Davos..? Wow.

    And the movement started with such humble roots…

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwqHO680qn8lSSQvlqU2TXA

    • Replies: @Jim from Boston
    Here's the more exact link, sorry.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEadixrm8c0
  64. @Jim from Boston
    Occupy Davos..? Wow.

    And the movement started with such humble roots...

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwqHO680qn8lSSQvlqU2TXA

    Here’s the more exact link, sorry.

  65. @Mr. Anon
    If you were married to Bernadine Dohrn, you'd want to smash monogamy too.

    If you were married to Bernadine Dohrn, you’d want to smash monogamy too.

    Bernardine Rae Dohrn (born Bernardine Rae Ohrnstein)…

    Now you know the rest of the story.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Thank you, Paul...

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    Good day!
    , @Pericles
    Bill Ayers and Bernardine D'oh walking about are like finding Bin Laden living in a compound next to the Paki Army HQ(*), except a bit more brazen. It's good to be a commie terrorist in America.

    (* No claim is made that this actually was the case.)
  66. I congratulate Mr. White on his promotion. His bosses have invited him to attend the annual strategic planning conference for their highest executives. It’s nice to see that hard work, or in his case, not so hard work can pay off eventually if you toe the corporate line and stick to it. He has arrived.

    • LOL: Forbes
    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    I congratulate Mr. White on his promotion. His bosses have invited him to attend the annual strategic planning conference for their highest executives.
     
    So this is basically a real-life version of the Power Elite scene in They Live (1988):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeAcikP5N7M
  67. @PhysicistDave
    NJ Transit Commuter wrote:

    Revolutionary movements just a manifestation of the age old urge to grab the throne for oneself, cloaked in SJWism.
     
    One thing that is too rarely stated is that these people who lust after power -- those who hold it and those who yearn to hold it -- are truly mentally disturbed.

    This is not how normal human beings think and behave.

    For most of us, trying to control our kids up till they reach the age of eighteen is exhausting enough. We don't want to control our neighbors or people we have never met or people who have different goals and desires than we do or people who live halfway around the world.

    We want to live our own lives, not manage others' lives.

    I wonder if the sickness from which these people suffer is due to a hatred of their own lives, or an inability to control their own lives, and therefore they "compensate" by trying to live others' lives.

    In a sane society, we would view these as people who need help, not people who should be trusted with any responsibility or authority.

    I wonder if the sickness from which these people suffer is due to a hatred of their own lives, or an inability to control their own lives, and therefore they “compensate” by trying to live others’ lives.

    It’s far less than that… it’s just pure ol’ greed, with sociopathy and megalomania providing the overlay that inures them from any remorse about the underlying false promise of everything the pretend to represent.

    Being a politician is like being a ‘captain of industry’, but without any risk of a customer boycott.

    It’s the same grift as priests have used for millennia (i.e., pay for our upkeep, and do as we say… or society will go to shit). And eventually it always ends in financial collapse and death squads. Not always in that order.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    Kratoklastes wrote to me:

    It’s far less than that… it’s just pure ol’ greed, with sociopathy and megalomania providing the overlay that inures them from any remorse about the underlying false promise of everything the pretend to represent.

    Being a politician is like being a ‘captain of industry’, but without any risk of a customer boycott.
     
    I'll admit that I tend to have trouble understanding people who are so unwilling to work for a living that they are willing to go to a great deal of effort to steal from their fellow human beings!

    Kratoklastes also wrote:

    It’s the same grift as priests have used for millennia (i.e., pay for our upkeep, and do as we say… or society will go to shit). And eventually it always ends in financial collapse and death squads. Not always in that order.
     
    "Throne and altar" -- except our "altar" is largely located in the education cartel, especially the universities, and the mainstream news-media oligopoly.
  68. @PhysicistDave
    NJ Transit Commuter wrote:

    Revolutionary movements just a manifestation of the age old urge to grab the throne for oneself, cloaked in SJWism.
     
    One thing that is too rarely stated is that these people who lust after power -- those who hold it and those who yearn to hold it -- are truly mentally disturbed.

    This is not how normal human beings think and behave.

    For most of us, trying to control our kids up till they reach the age of eighteen is exhausting enough. We don't want to control our neighbors or people we have never met or people who have different goals and desires than we do or people who live halfway around the world.

    We want to live our own lives, not manage others' lives.

    I wonder if the sickness from which these people suffer is due to a hatred of their own lives, or an inability to control their own lives, and therefore they "compensate" by trying to live others' lives.

    In a sane society, we would view these as people who need help, not people who should be trusted with any responsibility or authority.

    Based on your premise we should all be anarchists.

    For obvious reasons that won’t last long.

    People want power because someone has to hold it in 99 percent of societies (maybe not Iceland). Their reasoning for seeking power or wanting to overturn the power is that they believe current powers are doing a bad job.

    Some are mentally twisted, but not all.

    • Replies: @OscarWildeLoveChild
    I've anecdotally studied people in power in places that I have worked at, over several decades. I've tried to see where the 48 Laws apply, and/or The Dictator's Handbook (I think that's what it is called).

    Certain basics always seem to apply: being ruthless, pliable while in the middle of the pack, creating relatively and surprisingly small inner circle of trust (which easily can rule over the rest) and relying on the levers of power to control the information flow (even if everyone knows it is false) and using it to spread disinformation about people and things, controlling the boundaries of what is/is not acceptable (standards, policies) even if it conflicts with prior understandings, and enforcing standards against the middle-managers more frequently and with more vigor than the low level employees (contrary to what people think). Creating a sense of fear and anxiety works also.

    Every few months, but no longer than 18 months, senior management would literally pick off a random gazelle (typically mid-level careerist) over some minor infraction, on a whim it seemed, merely to show force and the arbitrary nature of the whip hand. Investigations of trumped up complaints, poor performance, misconduct, etc. It struck fear in others and it worked.
    , @PhysicistDave
    S. Anonyia wrote to me:

    Based on your premise we should all be anarchists.
     
    You mean like in the Shire? As Tolkien wrote to his son:

    My political opinions lean more and more to Anarchy (philosophically understood, meaning abolition of control not whiskered men with bombs) – or to ‘unconstitutional’ Monarchy. I would arrest anybody who uses the word State (in any sense other than the inanimate realm of England and its inhabitants, a thing that has neither power, rights nor mind); and after a chance of recantation, execute them if they remained obstinate!
    ...
    ...the most improper job of any man, even saints (who at any rate were at least unwilling to take it on), is bossing other men. Not one in a million is fit for it, and least of all those who seek the opportunity.
     
    Or like in the opening lines of the Essay on Civil Disobedience:

    I HEARTILY accept the motto,—“That government is best which governs least;” and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe,—“That government is best which governs not at all;” and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have. Government is at best but an expedient; but most governments are usually, and all governments are sometimes, inexpedient. The objections which have been brought against a standing army, and they are many and weighty, and deserve to prevail, may also at last be brought against a standing government. The standing army is only an arm of the standing government. The government itself, which is only the mode which the people have chosen to execute their will, is equally liable to be abused and perverted before the people can act through it.
     
    Of course, as Thoreau implies, men are not yet "prepared for it" and are determined to be governed by the worst among us.

    But we can at least be ashamed of that fact. As Mencken said:

    Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.

    A good politician is quite as unthinkable as an honest burglar.

    Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.

    and, most importantly:

    Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under.
     

    S. Anonyia also wrote:

    Their reasoning for seeking power or wanting to overturn the power is that they believe current powers are doing a bad job.
     
    No, usually, I think, it is because they think they can do a good job of bossing around their fellow human beings. And they always prove to be wrong.

    You know, we may root for Trump because he is not quite as bad as Hillary, Pelosi, Schiff, or Biden. But really -- how many of these politicians you see on the news would you really trust to supervise your children (males or females) on a weekend camping trip? Few of these folks are admirable human beings.

    Organized, centralized government as a distinct human institution only originated in the last few millennia. It will not last forever. And, in the interim, we can at least have the decency to be ashamed of what is being done in our name.

  69. Micah White:

    Sully from Monsters Inc:

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    He looks like a girl. Or maybe a pre-op tranny. His wife Chiara is a solid 4.
  70. @Joe Schmoe
    So, has the "cofounder" of the Tea Party been invited to Davos?

    The Koch brothers? Almost definitely.

  71. @newrouter
    >Rejecting Davos is easy when one hasn’t been invited. Now that I have a chance to go, I want to discover its revolutionary potential<

    White privilege?
    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    He has the face of a black woman. The BLV strikes again.
  72. @alt right moderate
    It's interesting comparing the backgrounds of woke wannabe capitalists with their arch rivals on the American First right. While the woke capitalist/activists have worked their way up the greasy establishment pole, the more nationalist economic advisers like Steve Bannon, Peter Navarro and John Paulson have come from left field and got into positions of power and influence with intelligence and enterprise.

    It’s interesting comparing the backgrounds of woke wannabe capitalists with their arch rivals on the American First right.

    It raises a good question on who they perceive to be public enemy number one. Currently, it might be a tossup between the dissident right and Sanders style socialists. Both groups are destined to become bigger and stronger in the next few years.

  73. @Kronos
    I’m now currently reading (well listening to) David Garrow’s “Rising Star” biography on Barack Obama. It’s highly detailed and does a superb job capturing various angles through the life of Barry Obama. (He apparently hates being called Barry so I’ll refer to him as such.) One of the angles of note is the public perception of community organizing. When Barry started in Chicago in the mid 1980s, it wasn’t seen as a glamorous position. The best and brightest of the boomer yuppies were jockeying for far more prestigious positions with higher pay. Many were surprised at Harvard Law School that Obama turned down an essentially assured Supreme Court clerkship for “community organizing” in Chicago after graduation.

    While I’m only 1/2 finished with the book and it’ll end before the Obama Presidency, Garrow’s book (and your book too Steve) strongly suggest that Obama found himself a niche profession in community organizing. One that intersected between poor people, wealthy foundations, and regional/global elites.

    My educated guess is that after the 2008 Great Recession, ”Mau-Mauing” style college campus community organizing become a “rising star” profession. Young Millennials were frozen out of entry-level areas of traditionally glorious professions (law, banking, etc.) Some joined “Teach for America” in droves as pointed out by EducationRealist, while others tried the community organizing approach. This proved a fairly easy way for parents to dump their higher functioning Greta Thunbergs after graduating from College. Keep in mind “Wokeness“ is 1990s Boomer urban liberalism on steroids. It’s not a surprise that Clinton Democrats like mommy and daddy support woke organizations that profess radical cultural upheaval while leaving economics on the laissez-faire back burner.

    Such organizations were able to “infiltrate, initiate, and detonate” Occupy WallStreet into atomization. Many were organized around universities which aren’t known as genuine bastions of the working class. So it’s not really a surprise that many were rewarded by “Woke Capital” for fragmenting a potential threat within the Democratic Party.

    https://www.amazon.com/Rising-Star-Making-Barack-Obama/dp/0062641832

    P.S. Garrow’s book is very detailed. Here’s a section regarding one of Barry’s old girlfriends.


    Over the next four weeks, Genevieve continued to record in her journal her reactions to Barack. Intercourse was pleasant, and in bed “he neither came off as experienced or inexperienced,” she later recalled. “Sexually he really wasn’t very imaginative, but he was comfortable. He was no kind of shrinking ‘Can’t handle it. This is invasive’ or ‘I’m timid’ in any way; he was quite earthy.””

    — Rising Star: The Making of Barack Obama by David Garrow
    http://a.co/6eSz6lu
     

    http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130108030712/clubpenguin/images/thumb/5/50/276255_Papel-de-Parede-Meme-Obama-Not-Bad_1280x1024.jpg/300px-276255_Papel-de-Parede-Meme-Obama-Not-Bad_1280x1024.jpg

    “Keep in mind ‘Wokeness’ is 1990s Boomer urban liberalism.”

    It’s worse than that. Woke is cultural Marxism and completely illiberal. Like all revolutions, Woke is false flag cover for elite interests. Elites are always concerned with economic domination, but in Woke there is some strange stuff at work along with the obvious demographic agenda. The subject of your excellent comment, Barry Obama, remains a bit of a cipher. His mother’s family background is the key to his mystery.

    • Replies: @Kronos

    The subject of your excellent comment, Barry Obama, remains a bit of a cipher. His mother’s family background is the key to his mystery.
     
    Do you mean these distant Presidential relatives?

    Stanley Dunham's distant cousins include six U.S. presidents: James Madison, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter, George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush.[20] Through a common ancestor, Mareen Duvall, a wealthy Huguenot merchant who emigrated to Maryland in the 1650s, Dunham is related to former Vice-President Dick Cheney (an eighth cousin once removed).[6] Through another common ancestor, Hans Gutknecht, a German Swiss from Bischwiller, Alsace whose three sons resettled in Germantown, Pennsylvania as well as the Kentucky frontier in the mid-18th century, Dunham is President Harry S. Truman's fourth cousin, twice removed.[21][22][23] Dunham and Wild Bill Hickock are sixth cousins, four times removed, through Jacob Dunham.[24]
     
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Armour_Dunham
  74. @Mr. Anon
    If you were married to Bernadine Dohrn, you'd want to smash monogamy too.

    Bernadine Dohrn was hot stuff for the New Left revolutionists. She was the pin-up girl in the Weather Underground. And like all upper middle class white Trotskyites, the Boomers in the Weather Underground used the war in Vietnam as cover for their raging case of negrophilia. The pale pencil-necks of Antifa have dispensed with the New Left pretense of being anti-war and openly embrace the anti-racism delusion.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    Yeah, they had some fun times with those orgies too.

    After an orgy in Columbus, Ohio, member Gerry Long recalled:

    “Within minutes, there was a whole group of naked people looking down from the head of the stairs, saying, “Come on up!” I took the hand of this girl and exchanged a few pleasantries to give it a slightly personal quality, and then we fucked. And there were people fucking and thrashing around all over. They’d sort of roll over on you, and sometimes you found yourself spread over more than one person. The room was like some modern sculpture. There’d be all these humps in a row. You’d see a knee and then buttocks and then three knees and four buttocks. They were all moving up and down, rolling around.”

     

    https://timeline.com/weather-underground-smash-monogamy-b109c96597ff
  75. @Kronos
    Unlikely...

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/77/Micah_White_in_Chicago.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micah_M._White

    He has the face of a black woman. The BLV strikes again.

  76. @KevinDibby
    Man this guy is further proof that white girls crave Men of Color

    You guys need to watch Ramy to see how white girls have sexual relations with Men of Color

    There’s some partial truth to that. But I believe it mainly stems with “men of color” being the least de-masculinized in US society. Women generally prefer strong alpha male types that eschew dominance and are desired by other women. Since the 1960s, feminists and beta/gamma males have led an all out war against white good looking alpha males. Alpha behavior is strongly frowned upon and heavily pressured toward modification. MoCs are largely excepted from such societal pressure (see average rap video) on account of feminist and beta/gamma males fearing being labeled racist.

    I combine beta from “The Rational Male” definition and gamma from “Vox Day’s” definition. Both definitions are slightly different but both encompass weak weasel-like men that’ll love nothing more than to remove those that possess alpha traits. The black guy may appear assertive/exciting and thus naturally attract women. Though, as Nichole Simpson found out she might be playing a dangerous game. Or sometimes it’s all an act and the guy is actually quite passive.

    Now that you’ve brought this up, I realize Barry Obama was an unfortunate victim of the “Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks” dichotomy. Obama Sr. was your stereotypical black alpha who married and knocked-up multiple women. Afterwords, his mother “Stanley-Ann” later married a fairly wealthy/successful beta named Lolo Soetoro who raised little Barry as his own. But Ann remained unhappy and pined as a “alpha widow” for Obama Sr.

    http://rebelliousdevelopment.com/alpha-fucks-vs-beta-bucks/

    https://therationalmale.com/2019/07/31/alpha-widows/

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    But I believe it mainly stems with “men of color” being the least de-masculinized in US society.
     
    What's manly about our champion whiners? (On the male side, that is.)
  77. @Dave Pinsen

    Micah earns a PhD from European Graduate School in Switzerland with a dissertation called “Post-Search: Libraries, Search Engines and the Organization of Knowledge,” the summary of which is not very elucidating to me:

    This dissertation examines the meaning of searching by exploring the origins and consequences of the two dominant ways of organizing knowledge: libraries and search engines. I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.
     
    This one of the ideas in Neal Stephenson’s latest novel: bias and manipulation become so prevalent that people can’t agree on basic facts, such as whether and American town has been nuked or not. So people subscribe to edited feeds or information flows.

    Stephenson has been negative about social media for a while; it plays a significant role in his prior novel Seveneves too. In last summer’s publicity tour for Fall: Or, Dodge in Hell, he was even more negative about social media in his interviews than he was in the book, if that’s possible 🙂

    I also note that Robert Heinlein played with some of these concepts too, in his novella If This Goes On— and short novel Methuselah’s Children. The idea was that language’s effects on emotion had been developed into enough of an empirical science that ultimately the repressive government in If This Goes On— used it for propaganda purposes, and the freedom-based government in Methuselah’s Children limited broadcasters and advertisers use of language to avoid inflaming passions. Heinlein was a fan of Alfred Korbyzski’s General Semantics.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Right, Stephenson’s astronauts used Spacebook.
  78. @KevinDibby
    Man this guy is further proof that white girls crave Men of Color

    You guys need to watch Ramy to see how white girls have sexual relations with Men of Color

    Man this guy is further proof that white girls crave Men of Color

    Oh, Tinys! So true!

  79. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Here’s a quote from the article that made me laugh:
    “The question I’m most often asked is: what do you hope to achieve by participating in the World Economic Forum?”

    I’d give Mr.White a lot of credit if he had answered honestly. “I hope to get the opportunity to join the 1% I’ve been protesting against.”

    And thus it has always been. Revolutionary movements just a manifestation of the age old urge to grab the throne for oneself, cloaked in SJWism. After the October Revolution, the primary impetus behind Soviet policy was to keep Lenin (and then Stalin) ensconced in luxury in the Kremlin. Same with Mao after 1949, etc, etc...

    “Revolutionary movements just a manifestation of the age old urge to grab the throne for oneself, cloaked in SJWism.”

    Yep. It’s all a racket. By the way, I wonder who’s paying Micah the Revolutionary’s plane fare. Soros maybe?

  80. “Expropriating capital”

    Now you’re talking. Occupy is not the only one constantly diverting everybody into silly meaningless divide-and-rule identity politics instead of the actual issue at hand–prying the money out of the hands of the rich and giving it back to us, the people who earned it.

    But of course you don’t want to talk about expropriating capital on here. You never will. It’s not in your remit. Your masters say fan race war and nothing else, and so you do their bidding.

  81. @Anonymous
    Thanks Hail for the link to his squeeze...

    https://www.chiararicciardone.net/

    Her page is an academic's version of a sales pitch. The reader is supposed to understand that Chiara is accomplished. Okay. WTF. She should try eliminating all status markers. Nix the name dropping. And if you're a damn writer then put some of your writing right up front and center. It's who you are for chrissakes.


    ------snip-----

    DOING THINGS WITH WORDS

    I am the Klemens von Klemperer Postdoctoral Fellow at the Hannah Arendt Center of Bard College

    -----/snip-----



    Btw that is the first .net website I've been to in years. Old school cool.

    Not as prestigious as being a Werner Klemperer Postdoctoral Fellow

  82. @Dieter Kief
    The postmodern damage is done - I just wonder, whether Neal Stevenson can turn such an obvious fact into an interesting novel? When I think about this stuff, Heinrich Heine (On the History of Religion and Philosophy in Germany, 1835 especially) comes to my mind and I think, if it could be done at all in a good way, it would have to be in an elegant and light-headed way.
    My impression is, that Jonathan Franzen has left track of these latest Turn(s) of the Screw, unfortunately. The closest to that all in print that I have seen so far is Back to Blood, an as it looks quite underestimated novel. Not least, because Wolfe did focus on the consequences of the weakening of the factual basis of our public discourse - and television as an important news source, with its preference of the moving picture and the spoken word - and especially the combination of the two.

    (Thomas Mann succeeded in looking back this way especially in The Magic Mountain with its look back at the beginning of WW 1. I did like Doktor Faustus too, about the Nazis and WW II, but I did not go back to scenes in this novel very much. I remember some of them and think of a few from time to time, and that is it, so far.

    Wolfe was going after the meaning and manipulation of “truth” going all the way back to These Radical Chic Evenings and Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers. Another hit at it came from his ‘70s piece The Intelligent Coed’s Guide to America, from whence came his famous phrase “The dark night of fascism is always descending in the United States and yet lands only in Europe”, and is in some part a takedown of the American Left’s worship of the Euroweenies and the deep down realization by the American Left that said Euroweenies will always hold the Americans in contempt.

    I really enjoyed Back to Blood; hopefully there’s a mostly-completed final novel in his files for a posthumous release. I miss TW terribly; he would have had exactly the correct take on our current situation.

    • Replies: @Kronos

    I really enjoyed Back to Blood; hopefully there’s a mostly-completed final novel in his files for a posthumous release. I miss TW terribly; he would have had exactly the correct take on our current situation.
     
    Who do you think was a better political forecaster on developing political events? Tom Wolfe? Philip Roth? Or someone else entirely?
    , @Dieter Kief
    Sigh. There is no novel in his files me thinks. Wolfe spoke about those while writing them, so.

    But Back to Blood is as good as it gets already. Thanks for your hint at the Coed piece which I have not read - yet.

  83. Your 2018 Taki’s Magazine article ( “The Emmett Till Effect.” ) is brilliant.

    I summed up your ‘counts’ in a table:

    Frequency counts per year

    Year “Emmitt Till”
    1980 0
    1990 2
    2000 4
    2004-2012 avg. 9/yr
    2013-2016 avg 12/yr
    2017 72
    2018 92

    “White Privlege”
    2000 1
    2010 3
    2018 60

  84. @Anonymous

    If you were married to Bernadine Dohrn, you’d want to smash monogamy too.
     
    Bernardine Rae Dohrn (born Bernardine Rae Ohrnstein)...

    Now you know the rest of the story.

    Thank you, Paul…

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    [MORE]

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    Good day!

  85. @Hhsiii
    “How do humans conceive, experience, and represent difference? How do differences organize personal subjectivity and the political world? And how can diversity be made to co-exist with equality?”

    That’s some classic academic bs jargon.

    And how can diversity be made to co-exist with equality?

    In the usual, typical manner: By coercion–force, if necessary.

  86. I got on Occupy Wall Street’s email list (never received that much and haven’t gotten one in years) and so I now get emails from Micah White.

    I recall responding to one he sent last year in which he said: “”Here’s my pick for the edgiest new protest tactic: “Dronetivism”—the use of drones to disrupt airports as a form of climate protest. Extinction Rebellion, my favorite contemporary protest movement, is pioneering the dronetivism tactic despite pushback from the mainstream.”

    I wrote back right away to say how dangerous this was and that I hoped anyone who deliberately flew drones over airports would be arrested and sent to prison.

    I ended my email by saying:

    “That you advocate this as something great and groovy shows that something is very wrong with your thinking about protests and about how other people should be treated.

    I urge you to reconsider your position and withdraw your support of “Dronetivism”. You are so very wrong about this it makes me afraid for you. What else will you come with next?”

    With all the connections he has I guess we will continue to hear from Micah White. He certainly has the lack of concern about other people that seems to be the hallmark of the real revolutionary. I wonder what he will think of the people at Davos? I bet he’ll like it there a lot more than he wants to admit to himself.

    • Thanks: Thea
  87. Anonymous[751] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s hard to make the turn Tucker Carlson made. As he admits, HIS life in the bubble is pretty great. There’s zero incentive for him to condemn the neoliberal globohomo machine. Which is why he and Trump are the only Republicans who do care more about WV trump voters than DC Republican lobbyists. Personal incentives rule everything.

    Q: How does it happen? Here we have students who finish undergraduate work and decide they want to be an economist. So they go to, let’s say, Harvard or MIT or some other school in economics. Presumably when they come in they have some notion of doing something that’s relevant to society, to making life a little better, something like that, at least a reasonable number of them. When they come out, they’re either going to teach at some small community college or they’ve learned the correct lesson. But no one gets up in front of the class and says, We will henceforth serve the interests of capital.

    Chomsky: It happens in a lot of ways. Let me tell you a story I once heard from a black civil rights activist who came up to Harvard Law School and was there for a while. This must have been twenty years ago. He once gave a talk and said that kids were coming in to Harvard Law School with long hair and backpacks and social ideals and they were all going to go into public service, law and change the world. That’s the first year. He said around April the recruiters come for the summer jobs, the Wall Street firms. Get a cushy summer job and make a ton of money. So the students figure, What the heck? I can put on a tie and jacket and shave for one day, because I need that money and why shouldn’t I have it? So they put on a tie and a jacket for that one day and they get the job for the summer. Then they go off for the summer and when they come back in the fall, it’s ties and jackets and obedience and a shift of ideology.

    Q: Sometimes it takes two years.

    Sometimes it takes two years; that’s overdrawing the point. But those factors are very influential. I’ve fought it all my life. It’s extremely easy to be sucked into the dominant culture. It’s very appealing. And the people don’t look like bad people. You don’t want to sit there and insult them. You try to be friends, and you are. You begin to conform, to adapt, to smooth off the harsher edges. Education at a place like Harvard is in fact largely geared to that, to a remarkable extent. I was a graduate student there. There was an organization called the Society of Fellows, which is a research outfit that selects a couple of people from all fields over the year. It was a remarkable opportunity to work. You had all the facilities of Harvard available and basically no responsibilities. Your only responsibilities were to show up for a dinner every Monday night which was sort of modelled on the Oxford-Cambridge high table. You spent the evening at the dinner with a couple of senior faculty members and other distinguished people. The purpose of that was basically socialization. You had to learn how to drink port and how to have polite conversations without talking about serious topics, but of course indicating that you could talk about serious topics if you were so vulgar as to actually do it. There’s a whole set of mannerisms. In those days you had to learn how to wear British clothes. That was the appropriate affectation.

    Q: And it’s very rare for a person to do all that and not begin to rationalize and think, This is really pretty good. Aren’t I something for all this? And to begin to be impressed.

    C: It kind of seeps in. They’ve had, for example, back in the early forties … in the 1930s of course there was pretty big labor strife and labor struggle and it scared the daylights out of the business community because labor was actually winning the right to organize and even legislative victories. There were a lot of efforts to overcome this. Harvard played its role. It introduced a trade union program which brought in rising young people in the labor movement, the guy who looks like he’s likely to be the local president next year. They’re brought to Harvard, they sit in the business school and the dorms. They go through a socialization process. They’re brought to share some of the values and an understanding of the elite. They’re taught, our job is to work together. We all are together. There are two lines. One line, for the public, is, we’re all together. We’re all cooperating, joint enterprise, harmony and so on. Of course, meanwhile, business is fighting a vicious class struggle on the side, but that’s in a different corner of the universe. That effort to socialize and integrate union activists, I’ve never measured its success, but I’m sure it was successful. It’s pretty much the way what I experienced and saw what a Harvard education. There’s much less of that at MIT, naturally, for exactly the reason you said: They’re not training the people who are going to rule.

  88. @Romanian

    2000: Graduates from high school in Grand Blanc
     
    He graduated in Great White? I lolled.

    Interesting bio. Does the Department of State provide support for adult children of diplomats and their spouses to live where the employee has been posted?

    He went from Great White to Swarthmore College. Coincidence? I. Think. NOT!

  89. @Hail
    MICAH WHITE
    - born 1982, reportedly to a White mother and Black father in Milwaukee;
    - 2000: Graduates from high school in Grand Blanc, Michigan; had been active in high school protesting against the pledge of allegiance and forming/leading a militant "Atheist Club," which clashed with a Bible Study student group; Micah's Atheist Club's whose goal was ''to keep our school as secular as possible;"
    - 2004: Earns BA, Swarthmore College, major: Philosophy, double minor in Interpretation Theory and Film & Media Studies;
    - Mid 2000s: Begins romantic involvement with Chiara Ricciardone (MA, 2009, SUNY Binghamton; PhD, 2017, Rhetoric, Berkeley), whom he met at Swarthmore (they both had minors in Interpretation Theory); the two have been romantically involved since then (now married, one son); Chiara is the daughter of Ambassador Francis Ricciardone (b.1952; career diplomat from 1978, with multiple high-profile full-ambassadorships in the 2000s and 2010s);
    - 2012: Micah earns a PhD from European Graduate School in Switzerland with a dissertation called "Post-Search: Libraries, Search Engines and the Organization of Knowledge," the summary of which is not very elucidating to me:

    This dissertation examines the meaning of searching by exploring the origins and consequences of the two dominant ways of organizing knowledge: libraries and search engines. I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.
     
    - Sept. 2011 to present: Micah is a moderately high-profile left-wing activist following Occupy Wall Street, but was actually already near power at age 17, having an Op-Ed published in the New York Times("Atheists Under Siege," June 1999) and appearing on an Aug. 1999 episode of Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher as a panelist on a "special teen episode."

    On how he got the idea for Occupy Wall Street (from 2014 interview with Esquire):


    [The Arab Spring] was absolutely crucial for my own development because I have lived in Egypt for nine months in, like, you know, 2005 or 2006. My wife’s father is a former ambassador to Egypt. I remember staying at the embassy and seeing, like, how many police officers Mubarak would employ to, like, keep order in his society. I mean, I remember seeing that and I remember thinking, at the time, like, “Wow. A revolution would be impossible here with all these police officers.” Like, they would have dozens and dozens and dozens of police officers everywhere. Then, lo and behold, a revolution happened in Tahir Square. That opened my eyes.
     
    He co-founded Occupy Wall Street with Kalle Lasn (b.1942 in Estonia), who seems like an Unz Review writer.

    In any case, Micah White is no turncoat who sold out to Davos. He was close all along; every part of his biography bears this out.

    “Begins romantic involvement with Chiara Ricciardone”

    What are the chances Micah and Chiara have never actually seen each other naked?

    Probably pretty good.

  90. @J.Ross
    Fascinating example of Jewish totalitarianism: two quoted critics (surely representing more) are upset with Kevin Williamson because, according to them, a piece he wrote "allowed" (their word, I dare not comprehend it; if an opinion piece grew agency then the Creator is truly a Creator of marvels) somebody else to call welfare parasites "locusts" (which is somehow different than calling them welfare parasites). Clearly censorship and mob opprobrium will protect people (who provably are obnoxious welfare parasites, on video and in documents) from disapproval!
    Be aware that the comment I have written does not "allow" anyone to disagree with me.

    That’s nothing. Imagine if it had allowed “bedbugs”! Now that would have been a scandal.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    If only -- since when do black renters in New York dislike bedbugs?
  91. @cthulhu
    Wolfe was going after the meaning and manipulation of “truth” going all the way back to These Radical Chic Evenings and Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers. Another hit at it came from his ‘70s piece The Intelligent Coed’s Guide to America, from whence came his famous phrase “The dark night of fascism is always descending in the United States and yet lands only in Europe”, and is in some part a takedown of the American Left’s worship of the Euroweenies and the deep down realization by the American Left that said Euroweenies will always hold the Americans in contempt.

    I really enjoyed Back to Blood; hopefully there’s a mostly-completed final novel in his files for a posthumous release. I miss TW terribly; he would have had exactly the correct take on our current situation.

    I really enjoyed Back to Blood; hopefully there’s a mostly-completed final novel in his files for a posthumous release. I miss TW terribly; he would have had exactly the correct take on our current situation.

    Who do you think was a better political forecaster on developing political events? Tom Wolfe? Philip Roth? Or someone else entirely?

    • Replies: @cthulhu


    Who do you think was a better political forecaster on developing political events? Tom Wolfe? Philip Roth? Or someone else entirely?

     

    Wolfe was a reporter first and foremost, and with These Radical Chic Evenings and Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers he really started picking up on the disconnect between the “elites” and the rest of America. This continued with his art criticism (The Painted Word) and architecture criticism (From Bauhaus to Our House), where the disconnect became very explicit - the part in the latter work where Wolfe discusses how the “enlightened” Yale-trained architects lived, and their designs for how the common man would live, is incredibly relevant today. This all culminated in The Right Stuff, a veritable paean to Middle America - few to no coastal elites with “the right stuff”, but plenty of sons of coal miners, Dust Bowl farmers, auto mechanics, etc.

    His novels have the same reportorial feel, and sound many of the same themes. I don’t really see any other American novelist plowing that ground - especially not Roth, Irving, Updike, etc.
  92. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kronos
    The interesting part is that Bill Ayers tried to woo her to bed (unsuccessfully) seven months prior to her meeting Barry Obama.

    That evening stood in sharp contrast to Genevieve’s rejection of a dinner host seven months earlier. That spring she had taken a course at Bank Street that involved having the students share recipes with their classmates. Three decades later Genevieve still had the “Floating Island Pudding” she shared as well as “Zayd’s Catsup,” a contribution from a thirty-seven-year-old classmate. At the end of the semester, that classmate invited her to dinner at his apartment at 520 West 123rd Street #5W.

    Five-year-old Zayd and his two-year-old brother Malik were asleep, as was Chesa, another almost two-year-old member of the household, whose mother and father were both in prison. Genevieve was initially surprised that the only food her host had for dinner was grapes, but it quickly became clear what he wanted for dessert. He explained that he was in an open relationship; he and his partner had been leading figures a decade earlier in a group whose slogans included “Smash Monogamy!”

    His partner was not coming home that night; indeed she was residing involuntarily at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in lower Manhattan, where she would remain for another six months. “He gave getting me into bed quite a good go,” Genevieve recalled, but with a thirteen-year age difference between them, he “seemed awfully old to me!” Her host “was quite miffed that I was not impressed by his ‘status’” as a notorious former radical, albeit one whose FBI “Wanted” poster made him appear to have just fallen out of bed rather than striving to get into one. He “backed off when I wasn’t interested,” and Genevieve’s rebuff may have had a greater impact than she realized.

    — Rising Star: The Making of Barack Obama by David Garrow
    http://a.co/fyqGX9n
     

    Many years later Barry and Bill worked together on education reform for Chicago Schools.

    Five-year-old Zayd and his two-year-old brother Malik were asleep [in Bill Ayers well-staffed house], as was Chesa, another almost two-year-old member of the household, whose mother and father were both in prison.

    That would be Chesa Boudin, already on the Left Establishment career escalator that would lead him to become DA in San Francisco, a successor in that job of current senatrix Kamala Harris.

  93. @Kronos
    There’s some partial truth to that. But I believe it mainly stems with “men of color” being the least de-masculinized in US society. Women generally prefer strong alpha male types that eschew dominance and are desired by other women. Since the 1960s, feminists and beta/gamma males have led an all out war against white good looking alpha males. Alpha behavior is strongly frowned upon and heavily pressured toward modification. MoCs are largely excepted from such societal pressure (see average rap video) on account of feminist and beta/gamma males fearing being labeled racist.

    I combine beta from “The Rational Male” definition and gamma from “Vox Day’s” definition. Both definitions are slightly different but both encompass weak weasel-like men that’ll love nothing more than to remove those that possess alpha traits. The black guy may appear assertive/exciting and thus naturally attract women. Though, as Nichole Simpson found out she might be playing a dangerous game. Or sometimes it’s all an act and the guy is actually quite passive.

    https://youtu.be/NlwGy0sFXEw

    https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Male-Rollo-Tomassi/dp/1492777862

    Now that you’ve brought this up, I realize Barry Obama was an unfortunate victim of the “Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks” dichotomy. Obama Sr. was your stereotypical black alpha who married and knocked-up multiple women. Afterwords, his mother “Stanley-Ann” later married a fairly wealthy/successful beta named Lolo Soetoro who raised little Barry as his own. But Ann remained unhappy and pined as a “alpha widow” for Obama Sr.

    http://rebelliousdevelopment.com/alpha-fucks-vs-beta-bucks/

    https://therationalmale.com/2019/07/31/alpha-widows/

    But I believe it mainly stems with “men of color” being the least de-masculinized in US society.

    What’s manly about our champion whiners? (On the male side, that is.)

    • Replies: @Kronos
    It’s the fact they’re allowed to whine and complain at all. MoCs are allowed far more freeway to push back figuratively as well as physically against white women. Unless it’s from a female of corresponding race, white women can’t so easily tell MoCs to “man-up” and follow orders due to the uncertainty of intersectionality.

    Rollo makes the superb point that there are often two sets of “law books” utilized by feminists and such to control male behavior. One is the first book, that socially encouraged men to defend women and follow the moral order prior to the 1960s sexual revolution. The second book, are the extra rights/privileges provided to women after the sexual revolution. The latter is especially true in that women are defined as a “protected status” under the newer Civil Rights legislation of the 1970s. Therefore, white men are confined to the restrictions of the old order while white women are granted more social/legal freedoms from the new order.

    https://therationalmale.com/2014/01/14/the-second-set-of-books/

    MoCs are granted more “protected status equality” toward white women on the basis of race. Also, they’re essential to the “Coalition of the Fringes” so you can’t push too hard on them. It sounds idiotic, but that’s really the world we currently live in. If the Neocons and Neoliberals start a war with Iran/Russia/China I can confidently tell you who’s gonna be dying and who’s staying safe at home in rear echelon.
  94. @cthulhu
    Wolfe was going after the meaning and manipulation of “truth” going all the way back to These Radical Chic Evenings and Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers. Another hit at it came from his ‘70s piece The Intelligent Coed’s Guide to America, from whence came his famous phrase “The dark night of fascism is always descending in the United States and yet lands only in Europe”, and is in some part a takedown of the American Left’s worship of the Euroweenies and the deep down realization by the American Left that said Euroweenies will always hold the Americans in contempt.

    I really enjoyed Back to Blood; hopefully there’s a mostly-completed final novel in his files for a posthumous release. I miss TW terribly; he would have had exactly the correct take on our current situation.

    Sigh. There is no novel in his files me thinks. Wolfe spoke about those while writing them, so.

    But Back to Blood is as good as it gets already. Thanks for your hint at the Coed piece which I have not read – yet.

  95. Steve had a ‘huh’ moment!

    http://stonetoss.com/comic/opposites-attract/

    • Replies: @Hail
    Good one,

    https://i1.wp.com/stonetoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/opposites-attract-comic0.png


    Runners-up on this theme:

    https://i1.wp.com/stonetoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/capitalism-and-fascism-comic.png

    https://i0.wp.com/stonetoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/corporate-trans-rights-comic.png
  96. @J.Ross
    >taxing legal pot
    >to help blacks
    [distant sound of air sucked between teeth intensifies]

    >taxing legal pot
    >to help blacks
    [distant sound of air sucked between teeth intensifies]

    One toke over the line, sweet Jesus…

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
  97. @nebulafox
    Very high-functioning psychopaths will often try to attain power within the corporate or political world so they can dominate the lives of as many people as possible, for their own amusement. When you combine this with the fact that modern US politics is more akin to theater put on by our bipartisan elites than anything else, thus selecting for the most natural and shameless actors (psychopaths don't care about being embarrassed or degrading themselves) who will also casually subject themselves and everyone around them to hellish 24/7 media attention down to the most minute details of their lives and be OK with it, this is a dangerous situation.

    I don't think psychopaths can be cured, by definition. They simply lack the brain machinery to change. We'll always have them, and they'll always be attracted to dangerous new movements because of the power and goodies it can offer them. But must we specifically tailor our politics in 21st Century America to almost *ensure* that they'll float to the top?

    High functioning psychopaths (I call them sociopaths) need to be publicly identified and then banned from any type of leadership position in any organization.

    We _can_ do this. Yes, we can and we must.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "High functioning psychopaths (I call them sociopaths) need to be publicly identified and then banned from any type of leadership position in any organization."

    So like Donald Trump, for starters?
  98. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Micah White:

    http://www.speakers.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Micah_White-Oct2015-1-760x427.jpg

    Sully from Monsters Inc:

    http://lissablackproductions.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/mike-and-sully-monster-inc-7784854-500-517-1-600x400.jpg

    He looks like a girl. Or maybe a pre-op tranny. His wife Chiara is a solid 4.

  99. @Reg Cæsar

    But I believe it mainly stems with “men of color” being the least de-masculinized in US society.
     
    What's manly about our champion whiners? (On the male side, that is.)

    It’s the fact they’re allowed to whine and complain at all. MoCs are allowed far more freeway to push back figuratively as well as physically against white women. Unless it’s from a female of corresponding race, white women can’t so easily tell MoCs to “man-up” and follow orders due to the uncertainty of intersectionality.

    Rollo makes the superb point that there are often two sets of “law books” utilized by feminists and such to control male behavior. One is the first book, that socially encouraged men to defend women and follow the moral order prior to the 1960s sexual revolution. The second book, are the extra rights/privileges provided to women after the sexual revolution. The latter is especially true in that women are defined as a “protected status” under the newer Civil Rights legislation of the 1970s. Therefore, white men are confined to the restrictions of the old order while white women are granted more social/legal freedoms from the new order.

    https://therationalmale.com/2014/01/14/the-second-set-of-books/

    MoCs are granted more “protected status equality” toward white women on the basis of race. Also, they’re essential to the “Coalition of the Fringes” so you can’t push too hard on them. It sounds idiotic, but that’s really the world we currently live in. If the Neocons and Neoliberals start a war with Iran/Russia/China I can confidently tell you who’s gonna be dying and who’s staying safe at home in rear echelon.

  100. @Hail
    MICAH WHITE
    - born 1982, reportedly to a White mother and Black father in Milwaukee;
    - 2000: Graduates from high school in Grand Blanc, Michigan; had been active in high school protesting against the pledge of allegiance and forming/leading a militant "Atheist Club," which clashed with a Bible Study student group; Micah's Atheist Club's whose goal was ''to keep our school as secular as possible;"
    - 2004: Earns BA, Swarthmore College, major: Philosophy, double minor in Interpretation Theory and Film & Media Studies;
    - Mid 2000s: Begins romantic involvement with Chiara Ricciardone (MA, 2009, SUNY Binghamton; PhD, 2017, Rhetoric, Berkeley), whom he met at Swarthmore (they both had minors in Interpretation Theory); the two have been romantically involved since then (now married, one son); Chiara is the daughter of Ambassador Francis Ricciardone (b.1952; career diplomat from 1978, with multiple high-profile full-ambassadorships in the 2000s and 2010s);
    - 2012: Micah earns a PhD from European Graduate School in Switzerland with a dissertation called "Post-Search: Libraries, Search Engines and the Organization of Knowledge," the summary of which is not very elucidating to me:

    This dissertation examines the meaning of searching by exploring the origins and consequences of the two dominant ways of organizing knowledge: libraries and search engines. I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.
     
    - Sept. 2011 to present: Micah is a moderately high-profile left-wing activist following Occupy Wall Street, but was actually already near power at age 17, having an Op-Ed published in the New York Times("Atheists Under Siege," June 1999) and appearing on an Aug. 1999 episode of Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher as a panelist on a "special teen episode."

    On how he got the idea for Occupy Wall Street (from 2014 interview with Esquire):


    [The Arab Spring] was absolutely crucial for my own development because I have lived in Egypt for nine months in, like, you know, 2005 or 2006. My wife’s father is a former ambassador to Egypt. I remember staying at the embassy and seeing, like, how many police officers Mubarak would employ to, like, keep order in his society. I mean, I remember seeing that and I remember thinking, at the time, like, “Wow. A revolution would be impossible here with all these police officers.” Like, they would have dozens and dozens and dozens of police officers everywhere. Then, lo and behold, a revolution happened in Tahir Square. That opened my eyes.
     
    He co-founded Occupy Wall Street with Kalle Lasn (b.1942 in Estonia), who seems like an Unz Review writer.

    In any case, Micah White is no turncoat who sold out to Davos. He was close all along; every part of his biography bears this out.

    He co-founded Occupy Wall Street with Kalle Lasn (b.1942 in Estonia), who seems like an Unz Review writer.

    Who would prevail if Kalle Lasn took on Carlos Ghosn in tennisn? Chessn? Mixed martial artsn? I assume Carlos would have the edge in businessn, but that may just be my biasn.

    Kalle might object to the way Carlos ran Nissn Motorsn, but as the latter man is Brazilian, I’m sure Kalle could appreciate that big yellow lasnge on Carlosn’s flag. You know, around the words Ordem e Progressn.

    By the way, should the Red Wings meet the Rangers in the Stanley Cup series, will the Detroit fans octopi Wall Street?

  101. @Kronos

    I really enjoyed Back to Blood; hopefully there’s a mostly-completed final novel in his files for a posthumous release. I miss TW terribly; he would have had exactly the correct take on our current situation.
     
    Who do you think was a better political forecaster on developing political events? Tom Wolfe? Philip Roth? Or someone else entirely?

    Who do you think was a better political forecaster on developing political events? Tom Wolfe? Philip Roth? Or someone else entirely?

    Wolfe was a reporter first and foremost, and with These Radical Chic Evenings and Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers he really started picking up on the disconnect between the “elites” and the rest of America. This continued with his art criticism (The Painted Word) and architecture criticism (From Bauhaus to Our House), where the disconnect became very explicit – the part in the latter work where Wolfe discusses how the “enlightened” Yale-trained architects lived, and their designs for how the common man would live, is incredibly relevant today. This all culminated in The Right Stuff, a veritable paean to Middle America – few to no coastal elites with “the right stuff”, but plenty of sons of coal miners, Dust Bowl farmers, auto mechanics, etc.

    His novels have the same reportorial feel, and sound many of the same themes. I don’t really see any other American novelist plowing that ground – especially not Roth, Irving, Updike, etc.

  102. @SunBakedSuburb
    "Keep in mind 'Wokeness' is 1990s Boomer urban liberalism."

    It's worse than that. Woke is cultural Marxism and completely illiberal. Like all revolutions, Woke is false flag cover for elite interests. Elites are always concerned with economic domination, but in Woke there is some strange stuff at work along with the obvious demographic agenda. The subject of your excellent comment, Barry Obama, remains a bit of a cipher. His mother's family background is the key to his mystery.

    The subject of your excellent comment, Barry Obama, remains a bit of a cipher. His mother’s family background is the key to his mystery.

    Do you mean these distant Presidential relatives?

    Stanley Dunham’s distant cousins include six U.S. presidents: James Madison, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter, George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush.[20] Through a common ancestor, Mareen Duvall, a wealthy Huguenot merchant who emigrated to Maryland in the 1650s, Dunham is related to former Vice-President Dick Cheney (an eighth cousin once removed).[6] Through another common ancestor, Hans Gutknecht, a German Swiss from Bischwiller, Alsace whose three sons resettled in Germantown, Pennsylvania as well as the Kentucky frontier in the mid-18th century, Dunham is President Harry S. Truman’s fourth cousin, twice removed.[21][22][23] Dunham and Wild Bill Hickock are sixth cousins, four times removed, through Jacob Dunham.[24]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Armour_Dunham

    • Replies: @OscarWildeLoveChild
    Not sure if you know, but many Americans from the South (myself included), of French Huguenot, Colonial/Plantation Spanish and Ulster descent are related to many presidents, and other famous people, from 3rd-7th cousin. It's actually not that uncommon (particularly if you are of Huguenot ancestry), particularly if it was in South Carolina (mixed with the Scots-Irish). And there is also a huge tie-in in NY/NJ between upper class Huguenot families and Dutch families.
  103. @S. Anonyia
    Based on your premise we should all be anarchists.

    For obvious reasons that won’t last long.

    People want power because someone has to hold it in 99 percent of societies (maybe not Iceland). Their reasoning for seeking power or wanting to overturn the power is that they believe current powers are doing a bad job.

    Some are mentally twisted, but not all.

    I’ve anecdotally studied people in power in places that I have worked at, over several decades. I’ve tried to see where the 48 Laws apply, and/or The Dictator’s Handbook (I think that’s what it is called).

    Certain basics always seem to apply: being ruthless, pliable while in the middle of the pack, creating relatively and surprisingly small inner circle of trust (which easily can rule over the rest) and relying on the levers of power to control the information flow (even if everyone knows it is false) and using it to spread disinformation about people and things, controlling the boundaries of what is/is not acceptable (standards, policies) even if it conflicts with prior understandings, and enforcing standards against the middle-managers more frequently and with more vigor than the low level employees (contrary to what people think). Creating a sense of fear and anxiety works also.

    Every few months, but no longer than 18 months, senior management would literally pick off a random gazelle (typically mid-level careerist) over some minor infraction, on a whim it seemed, merely to show force and the arbitrary nature of the whip hand. Investigations of trumped up complaints, poor performance, misconduct, etc. It struck fear in others and it worked.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Every few months, but no longer than 18 months, senior management would literally pick off a random gazelle (typically mid-level careerist) over some minor infraction, on a whim it seemed, merely to show force and the arbitrary nature of the whip hand. Investigations of trumped up complaints, poor performance, misconduct, etc. It struck fear in others and it worked.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn09yexmwSI


    Terror must be maintained or the Empire is doomed. It is the logic of history.
  104. @Kronos

    The subject of your excellent comment, Barry Obama, remains a bit of a cipher. His mother’s family background is the key to his mystery.
     
    Do you mean these distant Presidential relatives?

    Stanley Dunham's distant cousins include six U.S. presidents: James Madison, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter, George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush.[20] Through a common ancestor, Mareen Duvall, a wealthy Huguenot merchant who emigrated to Maryland in the 1650s, Dunham is related to former Vice-President Dick Cheney (an eighth cousin once removed).[6] Through another common ancestor, Hans Gutknecht, a German Swiss from Bischwiller, Alsace whose three sons resettled in Germantown, Pennsylvania as well as the Kentucky frontier in the mid-18th century, Dunham is President Harry S. Truman's fourth cousin, twice removed.[21][22][23] Dunham and Wild Bill Hickock are sixth cousins, four times removed, through Jacob Dunham.[24]
     
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Armour_Dunham

    Not sure if you know, but many Americans from the South (myself included), of French Huguenot, Colonial/Plantation Spanish and Ulster descent are related to many presidents, and other famous people, from 3rd-7th cousin. It’s actually not that uncommon (particularly if you are of Huguenot ancestry), particularly if it was in South Carolina (mixed with the Scots-Irish). And there is also a huge tie-in in NY/NJ between upper class Huguenot families and Dutch families.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    I didn’t, thanks for the heads up. Do you have any personal beef with King Louis the 14th?
  105. Sell-out. A woman loves to get attention.

  106. Written by Fish about a “would-be revolutionary with all the necessary charisma and presence of a leader without direction or goals, just a sense of frustration and anger” – sounds about right.

    (Nowadays, of course, our faux leftist heroes have – what? – privilege upon their hands from thinking they are white, instead of rust from the padlocked factory gates, of course….)

  107. @Ian Smith
    Steve had a ‘huh’ moment!

    http://stonetoss.com/comic/opposites-attract/

    Good one,

    Runners-up on this theme:

  108. Perhaps the OWS founder saw the play Hamilton about reducing inequality is all about POC Wall Street bankers punching up at the white man.

  109. @Hhsiii
    “How do humans conceive, experience, and represent difference? How do differences organize personal subjectivity and the political world? And how can diversity be made to co-exist with equality?”

    That’s some classic academic bs jargon.

    And how can diversity be made to co-exist with equality?”

    I read that line on her website and in your copy-paste of it; both times I thought it said,

    how can diversity be made to co-exist with quality?

    which would be a much bolder and more interesting question to pose.

    On closer inspection, I see it is “equality.” What difference a single ‘e’ can make. “How can diversity be made to co-exist with equality?” is a downer question; hold onto your wallet and get ready for an ‘HR’-style lecture.

  110. @Not My Economy
    >I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.


    He means people will no longer use google to discover new information, they will have content thrown at them by their chosen providers. Which actually happened. Google search has become basically useless and people interface with the wider internet through facebook/twitter feeds. So give this guy credit for noticing it at the beginning of the trend.

    These professional class "socialist" careerists are disgusting, but they are smart and they know how to get what they want. We can learn from them.

    Thanks, Not My Economy, that makes sense the way you say it.

    I would question whether the people who’ve been sucked deep into social media quicksand are engaging with ‘knowledge’ at all (as per his thesis title: “Post-Search: Libraries, Search Engines and the Organization of Knowledge”).

    Another thought: I don’t know that I agree that (google-)searching is somehow on the clear decline today, replaced by some kind of emerging endless Twitter and Facebook feed you can never turn off, like the televisions in Orwell’s 1984.

    The Endless Twitter Feed You Can Never Turn Off era may be approaching, I guess, and something like it is clearly much more important today that it was when Micah White was at the “European Graduate School” (2006–2012).

    While Google-searching is still, afaict, highly dominant in the West, there has been a real trend towards the Wikipedization of knowledge, the funneling people into approved avenues of knowledge.

  111. @Almost Missouri

    "Does the Department of State provide support for adult children of diplomats and their spouses to live where the employee has been posted?"
     
    My eyebrow raised a bit at that living in Egypt with his girlfriend's Dad's government-paid-for place too. But I think it is pretty much what it says. State Department bigwigs get generous housing allotments, especially in less glamorous countries, so young Mr. White was probably staying in a spare room at Chez Ricciardone, maybe bedding down with the future Mrs. White. So, yes, he was rooming and boarding on the Federal dime for nine months, though probably not by any formal policy, just by showing up and hanging out. State Department bean counters wouldn't notice the difference, while Egypt is not very fussy about visas, and even if they were, a word from Mr. Ricciardone could probably quiet any discontent.

    Ambassador Ricciardone was previously posted to Egypt, in a lesser capacity, ca. the 1990s, and brought family (incl. daughter Chiara) along, at least going by this:

    INSPIRED BY my upbringing in Egypt and Turkey, and by the global wave of political action in 2011, I connect history, theory, and our techno-political present. In 2018, I was appointed Provost of the Activist Graduate School. In 2017, I co-taught a seminar on “Technology and Social Change” for the radical Telluride Association Summer Program. In 2013, I co-founded Boutique Activist Consultancy, a social change think tank.

    Maybe Chiara was the one who proposed going to Egypt in 2005, a place she knew from earlier in life; to which boyfriend Micah White said, “Uhh, yeah, okay, I’ll go with you!”

    I wonder if wife Chiara is joining husband Micah White at Davos. Even hardcore activists deserve a five-star Swiss vacation every now and then, right?

  112. @cthulhu
    Stephenson has been negative about social media for a while; it plays a significant role in his prior novel Seveneves too. In last summer’s publicity tour for Fall: Or, Dodge in Hell, he was even more negative about social media in his interviews than he was in the book, if that’s possible :-)

    I also note that Robert Heinlein played with some of these concepts too, in his novella If This Goes On— and short novel Methuselah’s Children. The idea was that language’s effects on emotion had been developed into enough of an empirical science that ultimately the repressive government in If This Goes On— used it for propaganda purposes, and the freedom-based government in Methuselah’s Children limited broadcasters and advertisers use of language to avoid inflaming passions. Heinlein was a fan of Alfred Korbyzski’s General Semantics.

    Right, Stephenson’s astronauts used Spacebook.

  113. @S. Anonyia
    Based on your premise we should all be anarchists.

    For obvious reasons that won’t last long.

    People want power because someone has to hold it in 99 percent of societies (maybe not Iceland). Their reasoning for seeking power or wanting to overturn the power is that they believe current powers are doing a bad job.

    Some are mentally twisted, but not all.

    S. Anonyia wrote to me:

    Based on your premise we should all be anarchists.

    You mean like in the Shire? As Tolkien wrote to his son:

    My political opinions lean more and more to Anarchy (philosophically understood, meaning abolition of control not whiskered men with bombs) – or to ‘unconstitutional’ Monarchy. I would arrest anybody who uses the word State (in any sense other than the inanimate realm of England and its inhabitants, a thing that has neither power, rights nor mind); and after a chance of recantation, execute them if they remained obstinate!

    …the most improper job of any man, even saints (who at any rate were at least unwilling to take it on), is bossing other men. Not one in a million is fit for it, and least of all those who seek the opportunity.

    Or like in the opening lines of the Essay on Civil Disobedience:

    I HEARTILY accept the motto,—“That government is best which governs least;” and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe,—“That government is best which governs not at all;” and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have. Government is at best but an expedient; but most governments are usually, and all governments are sometimes, inexpedient. The objections which have been brought against a standing army, and they are many and weighty, and deserve to prevail, may also at last be brought against a standing government. The standing army is only an arm of the standing government. The government itself, which is only the mode which the people have chosen to execute their will, is equally liable to be abused and perverted before the people can act through it.

    Of course, as Thoreau implies, men are not yet “prepared for it” and are determined to be governed by the worst among us.

    But we can at least be ashamed of that fact. As Mencken said:

    Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.

    A good politician is quite as unthinkable as an honest burglar.

    Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.

    and, most importantly:

    Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under.

    S. Anonyia also wrote:

    Their reasoning for seeking power or wanting to overturn the power is that they believe current powers are doing a bad job.

    No, usually, I think, it is because they think they can do a good job of bossing around their fellow human beings. And they always prove to be wrong.

    You know, we may root for Trump because he is not quite as bad as Hillary, Pelosi, Schiff, or Biden. But really — how many of these politicians you see on the news would you really trust to supervise your children (males or females) on a weekend camping trip? Few of these folks are admirable human beings.

    Organized, centralized government as a distinct human institution only originated in the last few millennia. It will not last forever. And, in the interim, we can at least have the decency to be ashamed of what is being done in our name.

    • Replies: @Dissident

    You know, we may root for Trump because he is not quite as bad as Hillary, Pelosi, Schiff, or Biden.
     
    Fundamentally, President Trump may be no less corrupt, venal and self-serving as even the worst of his opponents. In impudence, vanity, and naked narcissicm, certainly, there would seem to few that Mr. Trump doesn't easily rival and even surpass. As a wanton serial adulterer, the President is very much at home-- both in the White House as well as in the larger D.C. millieu. The degree of sheer impudence that he has exhibited as such, however, has been enough to make Bill Clinton honestly blush. Has there ever before been a prominent political figure-- let alone a President-- who publicly boasted of his sexual conquests of married women? (While his own children were still at a tender age, no less.)

    I would suggest that the reason, or at least the most compelling one, to root for the President over his enemies and opponents is because of what he represents vs. what they represent. President Trump, as flawed and wanting a spokesmen as he is, nonetheless represents-- at least symbolically/nominally/ostensibly the normal, working, legacy American citizen. The President's opponents and enemies represent the conglogmerate of Globalist;Military-Industrial Complex;Woke Capital; and niche degenerate/grievance racket fringes that now openly boast of displacing the founding stock of this country and their legacy. (While recognizing that said demographic is predominately White and Christian, one need be neither in order to stand with those defending it against the pernicious forces I have enumerated above.)

    But really — how many of these politicians you see on the news would you really trust to supervise your children (males or females) on a weekend camping trip?
     
    I would suggest that a more germane question to ask would be would you trust any of them not to place your child in harm's way in a needless, unjustified and unjust war. Or to not promote any number of other policies that will continue to make this country a less safe, hospitable, wholesome and desirable place to live.

    Being used for the sexual gratification of a politician? Even if we were to assume that most were indeed so inclined and, given the opportunity, would act upon said inclination. What are the odds of ever encountering such a threat-- at least for the overwhelming majority of ordinary citizens who have no personal involvement with politicians? (I have averred that salacious scandals serve the interests of the ruling class by diverting attention from the real ways that they are harming the majority of the population.)

    Few of these folks are admirable human beings.
     
    Perhaps one of the first things a child should be taught is that politicians should not be looked to as exemplars of character or integrity. (And that nearly all are anything but.)

    [Quoting J.R.R. Tolkien] My political opinions lean more and more to Anarchy (philosophically understood, meaning abolition of control not whiskered men with bombs) – or to ‘unconstitutional’ Monarchy. I would arrest anybody who uses the word State (in any sense other than the inanimate realm of England and its inhabitants, a thing that has neither power, rights nor mind); and after a chance of recantation, execute them if they remained obstinate!
     
    The irony in the juxtaposition of the first sentence with the second is rather glaring. Was it deliberate?

    "Abolition of control" will ultimately lead to chaos, strife and violence. It is simply inevitable (with the possible exception of a population such as that of Iceland, as allowed for by your interlocutor). I have Anarchy is little more than an adolescent fantasy. At least, I have yet to be convinced otherwise.
  114. @Kratoklastes

    I wonder if the sickness from which these people suffer is due to a hatred of their own lives, or an inability to control their own lives, and therefore they “compensate” by trying to live others’ lives.
     
    It's far less than that... it's just pure ol' greed, with sociopathy and megalomania providing the overlay that inures them from any remorse about the underlying false promise of everything the pretend to represent.

    Being a politician is like being a 'captain of industry', but without any risk of a customer boycott.

    It's the same grift as priests have used for millennia (i.e., pay for our upkeep, and do as we say... or society will go to shit). And eventually it always ends in financial collapse and death squads. Not always in that order.

    Kratoklastes wrote to me:

    It’s far less than that… it’s just pure ol’ greed, with sociopathy and megalomania providing the overlay that inures them from any remorse about the underlying false promise of everything the pretend to represent.

    Being a politician is like being a ‘captain of industry’, but without any risk of a customer boycott.

    I’ll admit that I tend to have trouble understanding people who are so unwilling to work for a living that they are willing to go to a great deal of effort to steal from their fellow human beings!

    Kratoklastes also wrote:

    It’s the same grift as priests have used for millennia (i.e., pay for our upkeep, and do as we say… or society will go to shit). And eventually it always ends in financial collapse and death squads. Not always in that order.

    “Throne and altar” — except our “altar” is largely located in the education cartel, especially the universities, and the mainstream news-media oligopoly.

  115. @Bitfu
    You might enjoy a book that's been around a while--The Lucifer Principle. Even though I didn't agree with everything, it was thought provoking all the way through.

    The Lucifer Principle is a book by Howard Bloom, in which the author argues that social groups, not individuals, are the primary "unit of selection" on genes and human psychological development. He states that both competition between groups and competition between individuals shape the evolution of the genome. Bloom "explores the intricate relationships among genetics, human behavior, and culture" and argues that "evil is a by-product of nature's strategies for creation and that it is woven into our most basic biological fabric".[1] It sees selection (i.e. through violent competition) as central to the creation of the 'superorganism'[2] of society. It also focuses on competition between individuals for position in the 'pecking order' and competition between groups for standing in pecking orders of groups. The Lucifer Principle shows how ideas are vital in creating cohesion and cooperation in these pecking order battles. Says The Lucifer Principle: "Superorganism, ideas and the pecking order...these are the primary forces behind much of human creativity and earthly good."
     

    Sounds complementary to Rene Girard, scapegoating to end the cycle of mimetic rivalry being foundational to all societies. (He overstates the case in my opinion, but in just a midwit.)

    Is there any mention in that book of Voyage to Arcturus? I know Bloom was very interested in it, wrote a sequel or something.

  116. @SunBakedSuburb
    Bernadine Dohrn was hot stuff for the New Left revolutionists. She was the pin-up girl in the Weather Underground. And like all upper middle class white Trotskyites, the Boomers in the Weather Underground used the war in Vietnam as cover for their raging case of negrophilia. The pale pencil-necks of Antifa have dispensed with the New Left pretense of being anti-war and openly embrace the anti-racism delusion.

    Yeah, they had some fun times with those orgies too.

    After an orgy in Columbus, Ohio, member Gerry Long recalled:

    “Within minutes, there was a whole group of naked people looking down from the head of the stairs, saying, “Come on up!” I took the hand of this girl and exchanged a few pleasantries to give it a slightly personal quality, and then we fucked. And there were people fucking and thrashing around all over. They’d sort of roll over on you, and sometimes you found yourself spread over more than one person. The room was like some modern sculpture. There’d be all these humps in a row. You’d see a knee and then buttocks and then three knees and four buttocks. They were all moving up and down, rolling around.”

    https://timeline.com/weather-underground-smash-monogamy-b109c96597ff

  117. @Bitfu
    You might enjoy a book that's been around a while--The Lucifer Principle. Even though I didn't agree with everything, it was thought provoking all the way through.

    The Lucifer Principle is a book by Howard Bloom, in which the author argues that social groups, not individuals, are the primary "unit of selection" on genes and human psychological development. He states that both competition between groups and competition between individuals shape the evolution of the genome. Bloom "explores the intricate relationships among genetics, human behavior, and culture" and argues that "evil is a by-product of nature's strategies for creation and that it is woven into our most basic biological fabric".[1] It sees selection (i.e. through violent competition) as central to the creation of the 'superorganism'[2] of society. It also focuses on competition between individuals for position in the 'pecking order' and competition between groups for standing in pecking orders of groups. The Lucifer Principle shows how ideas are vital in creating cohesion and cooperation in these pecking order battles. Says The Lucifer Principle: "Superorganism, ideas and the pecking order...these are the primary forces behind much of human creativity and earthly good."
     

    The Lucifer Principle is a book by Howard Bloom, in which the author argues that social groups, not individuals, are the primary “unit of selection” on genes and human psychological development

    We only had to listen.

  118. @Anonymous

    If you were married to Bernadine Dohrn, you’d want to smash monogamy too.
     
    Bernardine Rae Dohrn (born Bernardine Rae Ohrnstein)...

    Now you know the rest of the story.

    Bill Ayers and Bernardine D’oh walking about are like finding Bin Laden living in a compound next to the Paki Army HQ(*), except a bit more brazen. It’s good to be a commie terrorist in America.

    (* No claim is made that this actually was the case.)

  119. @nebulafox
    Economic Right and Cultural Left are innate allies in a globalized age. Never forget it.

    Economic Right and Cultural Left are innate allies in a globalized age. Never forget it.

    That should say the Economic Left and the Cultural Left are innate allies.The Left has always been plutocratic.

  120. @SFG
    Before someone else does, I'll quote the Who:

    There's nothing in the street
    Looks any different to me
    And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
    And the parting on the left
    Is now the parting on the right
    And the beards have all grown longer overnight

    Before someone else does, I’ll quote the Who:

    There’s nothing in the street
    Looks any different to me
    And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
    And the parting on the left
    Is now the parting on the right
    And the beards have all grown longer overnight

    Tldr — Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

  121. @OscarWildeLoveChild
    Not sure if you know, but many Americans from the South (myself included), of French Huguenot, Colonial/Plantation Spanish and Ulster descent are related to many presidents, and other famous people, from 3rd-7th cousin. It's actually not that uncommon (particularly if you are of Huguenot ancestry), particularly if it was in South Carolina (mixed with the Scots-Irish). And there is also a huge tie-in in NY/NJ between upper class Huguenot families and Dutch families.

    I didn’t, thanks for the heads up. Do you have any personal beef with King Louis the 14th?

    • Replies: @OscarWildeLoveChild
    Haha, no. But Huguenots in the US (and probably world wide) are in any ways the "Christian Jews" (or Protestant Jews) if you will. Highly skilled artisans, high IQ, mercilessly persecuted by the French Catholics...flee and cause a brain drain, and for a few generations are highly inter-related and even now, I would suspect, by region, most people of Huguenot descent are either mixed with Scots-Irish (Virginia and SC), Dutch (NY) or Plantation French/Spanish in Louisiana, Lower Miss and Alabama.
  122. @kaganovitch
    That's nothing. Imagine if it had allowed "bedbugs"! Now that would have been a scandal.

    If only — since when do black renters in New York dislike bedbugs?

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    I was referencing iSteve content provider Bret Stephens and his whining about being called a bedbug

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/bret-stephens-call-me-a-bedbug-to-my-face/?highlight=bret
  123. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @OscarWildeLoveChild
    I've anecdotally studied people in power in places that I have worked at, over several decades. I've tried to see where the 48 Laws apply, and/or The Dictator's Handbook (I think that's what it is called).

    Certain basics always seem to apply: being ruthless, pliable while in the middle of the pack, creating relatively and surprisingly small inner circle of trust (which easily can rule over the rest) and relying on the levers of power to control the information flow (even if everyone knows it is false) and using it to spread disinformation about people and things, controlling the boundaries of what is/is not acceptable (standards, policies) even if it conflicts with prior understandings, and enforcing standards against the middle-managers more frequently and with more vigor than the low level employees (contrary to what people think). Creating a sense of fear and anxiety works also.

    Every few months, but no longer than 18 months, senior management would literally pick off a random gazelle (typically mid-level careerist) over some minor infraction, on a whim it seemed, merely to show force and the arbitrary nature of the whip hand. Investigations of trumped up complaints, poor performance, misconduct, etc. It struck fear in others and it worked.

    Every few months, but no longer than 18 months, senior management would literally pick off a random gazelle (typically mid-level careerist) over some minor infraction, on a whim it seemed, merely to show force and the arbitrary nature of the whip hand. Investigations of trumped up complaints, poor performance, misconduct, etc. It struck fear in others and it worked.

    Terror must be maintained or the Empire is doomed. It is the logic of history.

  124. @Alfa158
    I congratulate Mr. White on his promotion. His bosses have invited him to attend the annual strategic planning conference for their highest executives. It’s nice to see that hard work, or in his case, not so hard work can pay off eventually if you toe the corporate line and stick to it. He has arrived.

    I congratulate Mr. White on his promotion. His bosses have invited him to attend the annual strategic planning conference for their highest executives.

    So this is basically a real-life version of the Power Elite scene in They Live (1988):

    • Agree: Hail
  125. @J.Ross
    If only -- since when do black renters in New York dislike bedbugs?

    I was referencing iSteve content provider Bret Stephens and his whining about being called a bedbug

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/bret-stephens-call-me-a-bedbug-to-my-face/?highlight=bret

  126. @nebulafox
    Economic Right and Cultural Left are innate allies in a globalized age. Never forget it.

    Economic Right and Cultural Left are innate allies in a globalized age. Never forget it.

    They’re more than just allies. They’re joined at the hip. In most cases they’re the same people.

    It’s almost as if the Cultural Left was created specifically to serve the interests of Big Capital.

    • Agree: JackOH
  127. Just a quick thought on dissent.

    Participate if you must in those do-gooder/do-something outfits, but keep your expectations nap of the earth low. Then lower them again.

    The worst are profoundly dishonest, consciously or unconsciously, and dumber than mud. Many organizations named something like Smith County or Smithville Democrats (or Republicans) for X fit that pattern. They’re not much more than amen corners for incumbents or their challengers. Their massive ineptitude feeds their dishonesty because there’s no one to say boo to them.

    You’ll be no more than controlled support or controlled opposition, replete with canned opinions that’ll have you wheel-spinning your way into putzdom.

    Those big organizations with long histories may actually do some good in painfully arthritic, incrementalist fashion, plus you get a slick magazine or newsletter to boot.

    One-man shows can sometimes illuminate issues without being beholden to trustees or foundation program officers, and pretty much relying solely on their powers of persuasion and whatever shreds of the First Amendment and its spirit are left. I count our host Ron Unz among those one-man shows. I did a bit of citizen-activism. It’s tough work.

  128. @Justvisiting
    High functioning psychopaths (I call them sociopaths) need to be publicly identified and then banned from any type of leadership position in any organization.

    We _can_ do this. Yes, we can and we must.

    “High functioning psychopaths (I call them sociopaths) need to be publicly identified and then banned from any type of leadership position in any organization.”

    So like Donald Trump, for starters?

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
  129. @PhysicistDave
    S. Anonyia wrote to me:

    Based on your premise we should all be anarchists.
     
    You mean like in the Shire? As Tolkien wrote to his son:

    My political opinions lean more and more to Anarchy (philosophically understood, meaning abolition of control not whiskered men with bombs) – or to ‘unconstitutional’ Monarchy. I would arrest anybody who uses the word State (in any sense other than the inanimate realm of England and its inhabitants, a thing that has neither power, rights nor mind); and after a chance of recantation, execute them if they remained obstinate!
    ...
    ...the most improper job of any man, even saints (who at any rate were at least unwilling to take it on), is bossing other men. Not one in a million is fit for it, and least of all those who seek the opportunity.
     
    Or like in the opening lines of the Essay on Civil Disobedience:

    I HEARTILY accept the motto,—“That government is best which governs least;” and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe,—“That government is best which governs not at all;” and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have. Government is at best but an expedient; but most governments are usually, and all governments are sometimes, inexpedient. The objections which have been brought against a standing army, and they are many and weighty, and deserve to prevail, may also at last be brought against a standing government. The standing army is only an arm of the standing government. The government itself, which is only the mode which the people have chosen to execute their will, is equally liable to be abused and perverted before the people can act through it.
     
    Of course, as Thoreau implies, men are not yet "prepared for it" and are determined to be governed by the worst among us.

    But we can at least be ashamed of that fact. As Mencken said:

    Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.

    A good politician is quite as unthinkable as an honest burglar.

    Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.

    and, most importantly:

    Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under.
     

    S. Anonyia also wrote:

    Their reasoning for seeking power or wanting to overturn the power is that they believe current powers are doing a bad job.
     
    No, usually, I think, it is because they think they can do a good job of bossing around their fellow human beings. And they always prove to be wrong.

    You know, we may root for Trump because he is not quite as bad as Hillary, Pelosi, Schiff, or Biden. But really -- how many of these politicians you see on the news would you really trust to supervise your children (males or females) on a weekend camping trip? Few of these folks are admirable human beings.

    Organized, centralized government as a distinct human institution only originated in the last few millennia. It will not last forever. And, in the interim, we can at least have the decency to be ashamed of what is being done in our name.

    You know, we may root for Trump because he is not quite as bad as Hillary, Pelosi, Schiff, or Biden.

    Fundamentally, President Trump may be no less corrupt, venal and self-serving as even the worst of his opponents. In impudence, vanity, and naked narcissicm, certainly, there would seem to few that Mr. Trump doesn’t easily rival and even surpass. As a wanton serial adulterer, the President is very much at home– both in the White House as well as in the larger D.C. millieu. The degree of sheer impudence that he has exhibited as such, however, has been enough to make Bill Clinton honestly blush. Has there ever before been a prominent political figure– let alone a President– who publicly boasted of his sexual conquests of married women? (While his own children were still at a tender age, no less.)

    I would suggest that the reason, or at least the most compelling one, to root for the President over his enemies and opponents is because of what he represents vs. what they represent. President Trump, as flawed and wanting a spokesmen as he is, nonetheless represents– at least symbolically/nominally/ostensibly the normal, working, legacy American citizen. The President’s opponents and enemies represent the conglogmerate of Globalist;Military-Industrial Complex;Woke Capital; and niche degenerate/grievance racket fringes that now openly boast of displacing the founding stock of this country and their legacy. (While recognizing that said demographic is predominately White and Christian, one need be neither in order to stand with those defending it against the pernicious forces I have enumerated above.)

    But really — how many of these politicians you see on the news would you really trust to supervise your children (males or females) on a weekend camping trip?

    I would suggest that a more germane question to ask would be would you trust any of them not to place your child in harm’s way in a needless, unjustified and unjust war. Or to not promote any number of other policies that will continue to make this country a less safe, hospitable, wholesome and desirable place to live.

    [MORE]

    Being used for the sexual gratification of a politician? Even if we were to assume that most were indeed so inclined and, given the opportunity, would act upon said inclination. What are the odds of ever encountering such a threat– at least for the overwhelming majority of ordinary citizens who have no personal involvement with politicians? (I have averred that salacious scandals serve the interests of the ruling class by diverting attention from the real ways that they are harming the majority of the population.)

    Few of these folks are admirable human beings.

    Perhaps one of the first things a child should be taught is that politicians should not be looked to as exemplars of character or integrity. (And that nearly all are anything but.)

    [Quoting J.R.R. Tolkien] My political opinions lean more and more to Anarchy (philosophically understood, meaning abolition of control not whiskered men with bombs) – or to ‘unconstitutional’ Monarchy. I would arrest anybody who uses the word State (in any sense other than the inanimate realm of England and its inhabitants, a thing that has neither power, rights nor mind); and after a chance of recantation, execute them if they remained obstinate!

    The irony in the juxtaposition of the first sentence with the second is rather glaring. Was it deliberate?

    “Abolition of control” will ultimately lead to chaos, strife and violence. It is simply inevitable (with the possible exception of a population such as that of Iceland, as allowed for by your interlocutor). I have Anarchy is little more than an adolescent fantasy. At least, I have yet to be convinced otherwise.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    Dissident wrote to me:

    The irony in the juxtaposition of the first sentence with the second [in the quote from Tolkien] is rather glaring. Was it deliberate?
     
    Tolkien was a master at using words, who surely understood irony: yes, I am sure the second sentence is tongue-in-cheek. The legitimate point he was making is that he was sick and tired of people spouting propaganda about "the state" (nowadays, he might include the "Homeland") that neglected actual human beings and that had as its primary goal getting innocent people killed.

    Dissident also wrote:

    “Abolition of control” will ultimately lead to chaos, strife and violence. It is simply inevitable (with the possible exception of a population such as that of Iceland, as allowed for by your interlocutor). I have Anarchy is little more than an adolescent fantasy. At least, I have yet to be convinced otherwise.
     
    In fact, throughout much of American history, most of the daily interactions among Americans were "anarchic," in the sense that they did not depend on interference or control by the government.

    Even today, most of my interaction with my family, friends, and neighbors is "anarchic" in that sense.

    Alas, a greater fraction of the US population today are people who deal with others not on the basis of mutual consent and voluntary interaction but via predatory behavior. Most of these people act through the government, but enough "privatize" governmental actions (i.e., private thieves, murderers, etc.) to be a real problem: I suppose it is such people you are afraid of?

    Mark Twain once declared, "It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress." Today, alas, we do have a native criminal class, though they still do less harm to society than the state does.

    I do not suffer from the delusion that a Golden Age of Anarchy, a la the Shire, is just around the corner. But I do think it is time for grown-ups to view politics, politicians, and the state in a clear-eyed, honest manner, as you yourself suggest in your post. And we should stop lying to the children. In that, perhaps, we are in agreement.
  130. @Lot
    https://twitter.com/monopoly4equal/status/1169304463410114560

    If anyone had a problem, they would simply avoid the internet and the financial system.

    Much easier said than done.

  131. @Hail
    MICAH WHITE
    - born 1982, reportedly to a White mother and Black father in Milwaukee;
    - 2000: Graduates from high school in Grand Blanc, Michigan; had been active in high school protesting against the pledge of allegiance and forming/leading a militant "Atheist Club," which clashed with a Bible Study student group; Micah's Atheist Club's whose goal was ''to keep our school as secular as possible;"
    - 2004: Earns BA, Swarthmore College, major: Philosophy, double minor in Interpretation Theory and Film & Media Studies;
    - Mid 2000s: Begins romantic involvement with Chiara Ricciardone (MA, 2009, SUNY Binghamton; PhD, 2017, Rhetoric, Berkeley), whom he met at Swarthmore (they both had minors in Interpretation Theory); the two have been romantically involved since then (now married, one son); Chiara is the daughter of Ambassador Francis Ricciardone (b.1952; career diplomat from 1978, with multiple high-profile full-ambassadorships in the 2000s and 2010s);
    - 2012: Micah earns a PhD from European Graduate School in Switzerland with a dissertation called "Post-Search: Libraries, Search Engines and the Organization of Knowledge," the summary of which is not very elucidating to me:

    This dissertation examines the meaning of searching by exploring the origins and consequences of the two dominant ways of organizing knowledge: libraries and search engines. I propose that the era of search may already be drawing to a close and that we are entering a post-search world where information flows replace active seeking.
     
    - Sept. 2011 to present: Micah is a moderately high-profile left-wing activist following Occupy Wall Street, but was actually already near power at age 17, having an Op-Ed published in the New York Times("Atheists Under Siege," June 1999) and appearing on an Aug. 1999 episode of Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher as a panelist on a "special teen episode."

    On how he got the idea for Occupy Wall Street (from 2014 interview with Esquire):


    [The Arab Spring] was absolutely crucial for my own development because I have lived in Egypt for nine months in, like, you know, 2005 or 2006. My wife’s father is a former ambassador to Egypt. I remember staying at the embassy and seeing, like, how many police officers Mubarak would employ to, like, keep order in his society. I mean, I remember seeing that and I remember thinking, at the time, like, “Wow. A revolution would be impossible here with all these police officers.” Like, they would have dozens and dozens and dozens of police officers everywhere. Then, lo and behold, a revolution happened in Tahir Square. That opened my eyes.
     
    He co-founded Occupy Wall Street with Kalle Lasn (b.1942 in Estonia), who seems like an Unz Review writer.

    In any case, Micah White is no turncoat who sold out to Davos. He was close all along; every part of his biography bears this out.

    Swarthmore, why am I not surprised founded by Quakers and cranks as Orwell called them. Look at Philadelphia and some Suburbs Look at the results of Quaker Puritan Marxist liberal coddling of blacks. Better than Detroit, almost as bad as Baltimore

    Close down the very college in America

  132. @Dissident

    You know, we may root for Trump because he is not quite as bad as Hillary, Pelosi, Schiff, or Biden.
     
    Fundamentally, President Trump may be no less corrupt, venal and self-serving as even the worst of his opponents. In impudence, vanity, and naked narcissicm, certainly, there would seem to few that Mr. Trump doesn't easily rival and even surpass. As a wanton serial adulterer, the President is very much at home-- both in the White House as well as in the larger D.C. millieu. The degree of sheer impudence that he has exhibited as such, however, has been enough to make Bill Clinton honestly blush. Has there ever before been a prominent political figure-- let alone a President-- who publicly boasted of his sexual conquests of married women? (While his own children were still at a tender age, no less.)

    I would suggest that the reason, or at least the most compelling one, to root for the President over his enemies and opponents is because of what he represents vs. what they represent. President Trump, as flawed and wanting a spokesmen as he is, nonetheless represents-- at least symbolically/nominally/ostensibly the normal, working, legacy American citizen. The President's opponents and enemies represent the conglogmerate of Globalist;Military-Industrial Complex;Woke Capital; and niche degenerate/grievance racket fringes that now openly boast of displacing the founding stock of this country and their legacy. (While recognizing that said demographic is predominately White and Christian, one need be neither in order to stand with those defending it against the pernicious forces I have enumerated above.)

    But really — how many of these politicians you see on the news would you really trust to supervise your children (males or females) on a weekend camping trip?
     
    I would suggest that a more germane question to ask would be would you trust any of them not to place your child in harm's way in a needless, unjustified and unjust war. Or to not promote any number of other policies that will continue to make this country a less safe, hospitable, wholesome and desirable place to live.

    Being used for the sexual gratification of a politician? Even if we were to assume that most were indeed so inclined and, given the opportunity, would act upon said inclination. What are the odds of ever encountering such a threat-- at least for the overwhelming majority of ordinary citizens who have no personal involvement with politicians? (I have averred that salacious scandals serve the interests of the ruling class by diverting attention from the real ways that they are harming the majority of the population.)

    Few of these folks are admirable human beings.
     
    Perhaps one of the first things a child should be taught is that politicians should not be looked to as exemplars of character or integrity. (And that nearly all are anything but.)

    [Quoting J.R.R. Tolkien] My political opinions lean more and more to Anarchy (philosophically understood, meaning abolition of control not whiskered men with bombs) – or to ‘unconstitutional’ Monarchy. I would arrest anybody who uses the word State (in any sense other than the inanimate realm of England and its inhabitants, a thing that has neither power, rights nor mind); and after a chance of recantation, execute them if they remained obstinate!
     
    The irony in the juxtaposition of the first sentence with the second is rather glaring. Was it deliberate?

    "Abolition of control" will ultimately lead to chaos, strife and violence. It is simply inevitable (with the possible exception of a population such as that of Iceland, as allowed for by your interlocutor). I have Anarchy is little more than an adolescent fantasy. At least, I have yet to be convinced otherwise.

    Dissident wrote to me:

    The irony in the juxtaposition of the first sentence with the second [in the quote from Tolkien] is rather glaring. Was it deliberate?

    Tolkien was a master at using words, who surely understood irony: yes, I am sure the second sentence is tongue-in-cheek. The legitimate point he was making is that he was sick and tired of people spouting propaganda about “the state” (nowadays, he might include the “Homeland”) that neglected actual human beings and that had as its primary goal getting innocent people killed.

    Dissident also wrote:

    “Abolition of control” will ultimately lead to chaos, strife and violence. It is simply inevitable (with the possible exception of a population such as that of Iceland, as allowed for by your interlocutor). I have Anarchy is little more than an adolescent fantasy. At least, I have yet to be convinced otherwise.

    In fact, throughout much of American history, most of the daily interactions among Americans were “anarchic,” in the sense that they did not depend on interference or control by the government.

    Even today, most of my interaction with my family, friends, and neighbors is “anarchic” in that sense.

    Alas, a greater fraction of the US population today are people who deal with others not on the basis of mutual consent and voluntary interaction but via predatory behavior. Most of these people act through the government, but enough “privatize” governmental actions (i.e., private thieves, murderers, etc.) to be a real problem: I suppose it is such people you are afraid of?

    Mark Twain once declared, “It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress.” Today, alas, we do have a native criminal class, though they still do less harm to society than the state does.

    I do not suffer from the delusion that a Golden Age of Anarchy, a la the Shire, is just around the corner. But I do think it is time for grown-ups to view politics, politicians, and the state in a clear-eyed, honest manner, as you yourself suggest in your post. And we should stop lying to the children. In that, perhaps, we are in agreement.

    • Thanks: Dissident
  133. @Kronos
    I didn’t, thanks for the heads up. Do you have any personal beef with King Louis the 14th?

    Haha, no. But Huguenots in the US (and probably world wide) are in any ways the “Christian Jews” (or Protestant Jews) if you will. Highly skilled artisans, high IQ, mercilessly persecuted by the French Catholics…flee and cause a brain drain, and for a few generations are highly inter-related and even now, I would suspect, by region, most people of Huguenot descent are either mixed with Scots-Irish (Virginia and SC), Dutch (NY) or Plantation French/Spanish in Louisiana, Lower Miss and Alabama.

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