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Democratic National Committee chairwoman Donna Brazile reveals she did some contingency planning after Hillary passed out at a 9/11 ceremony last year about replacing Clinton-Kaine with a Biden-Booker ticket. The response from Hillary staffers is pretty funny:

On Saturday evening, a group of almost 100 Clinton campaign staffers, including Mr. Fallon, echoed his sentiments. … “It is particularly troubling and puzzling that she would seemingly buy into false Russian-fueled propaganda, spread by both the Russians and our opponent, about our candidate’s health.”

So, remember, a bystander didn’t actually happen to video Hillary collapsing, you just think you remember that because you too, like Donna Brazile, are a dupe of Kremlin propaganda:

 
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  1. Slightly OT, but the Associated Press has a long piece out, “Inside story: How Russians hacked the Democrats’ emails,” that only has one weakness: the hacker known as Fancy Bear, AP believes is responsible for hacking the NNC and Podesta, is, according AP’s source, Secureworks, maybe not connected to the Russians. They (Secureworks) have only “medium confidence” that Fancy Bear is tied to the Russians, something you only find out if you Google for more information.

    https://goo.gl/Q7wmpo

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Luke Lea

    CBS' "Meet The Press" has host John Dickerson excitedly agreeing with interviewing Sen. Mark Warner about the threatening menace of the Russians under every bed who stole the election for Trump and soiled the virginal probity of the I'm With Her! campaign, with Putin's evil, masterful hackers foiling the Democratic Party's defenders of democracy.

    Meanwhile, on some different planet, Steve McIntyre has devoted a few recent Climate Audit posts to examination of the matruska-doll stories of the poor security, hacking episodes (plural) and/or leaking of the DNC servers. Most recent one here. Some of the commenters appear to be quite technically proficient in the relevant areas.

    While I do not have the competence to evaluate experts' arguments in this area, a few themes keep recurring, at Climate Audit and other places.

    * Very little certainty on many key aspects of these stories can be justified. The state of the art of cybersecurity is not adequate for assigning definite responsibility for most of the serious hack/leak episodes to "The Russians", or anybody else.

    * Much of the information that forms the foundation for this morning's "Meet The Press" analysis has been provided by people and organizations with conflicts of interest. Most of these reports also demonstrate a low level of technical competence.

    * Mainstream media organs ignore evidence that doesn't fit with the prevailing narrative of the moment.

    None of this will be at all surprising to readers inside the iSteve bubble. It's useful to remember that these bullet points are unknown to most Americans.

    FWIW I think Steve's depiction of Putin as a "neo-Czar" is on the money. Nobody should be shocked when the Czar fails to play by Queensbury Rules, thus it is unsurprising that Russia did attempt to interfere with the US electoral process. Seems like a modest effort, compared to what the Soviet Union and other countries have done in years past, China and Israel prominently among them. And what the U.S. government (Nuland) and quasi-government organs (Soros) have done in Russia and its Near Abroad.

    If it's reasonable to rule out infantile levels of credulity as the culprit, Mr. Dickerson's and Sen. Warner's shock is just the latest case of Gambling at Rick's.

    Replies: @anonymous, @guest

  2. That beautiful video must be CGI, rendered and animated by some guys in Macedonia.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Buzz Mohawk

    That van is hiding a grassy knoll, the video was sourced from RT and the people are clearly shopped in,

    I any case, the presidential hopeful was about to be sent out to her weekly reprogramming anyway.

    Like this:

    http://www.comicextra.com/blake-mortimer/chapter-22/47

  3. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Bruce Charlton periodically reiterates (or maybe he’s done it, like, once, and I remember it) that the real reason they go after Russia (which he and I agree is a very flawed place) is that it is a country that is to some degree embracing its Christian heritage after having tossed it aside. I think there is more truth than falsehood there: 60-40, 70-30, 52-48?

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Anonymous

    Oh? The Mormon heretic is still going on about Christianity? Hasn't gone full LDS and repudiated Christiandom yet?

    , @Anon
    @Anonymous

    They're going after Russia because it's there. Democrats are desperate to blame somebody besides themselves for losing the election. Part of problem with those who suffer from delusions of grandeur is if their dream fantasy doesn't come true, then it has to be because there's an evil conspiracy against them. They're not about to blame themselves for being a bunch of morons.

    Democrats engage in a lot of childlike, magical thinking.

    Replies: @Olorin

    , @ChrisZ
    @Anonymous

    I’ve come to the same conclusion, bolstered this week when I heard a talk in which a former “religion outreach” official under Pres. Obama casually suggested that there was something sinister about any American who merely showed an interest in Russian Orthodoxy.

    I wish I could thank you by name for putting me on to Dr. Charlton’s blog, Anonymous; or at least be able to recognize your comments in the future through a suitable nickname. But thanks all the same. To others reading this, if the name “Owen Barfield” rings any intellectual bells, you’ll appreciate Charlton too.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @syonredux
    @Anonymous


    is that it is a country that is to some degree embracing its Christian heritage after having tossed it aside. I think there is more truth than falsehood there: 60-40, 70-30, 52-48?
     
    Russia is White + Christian, which makes it the perfect enemy for the Baizuo and POC.

    Replies: @Sean

    , @Darin
    @Anonymous


    Bruce Charlton periodically reiterates
     
    The guy who believes in elves, dwarves and fairies?


    (or maybe he’s done it, like, once, and I remember it) that the real reason they go after Russia (which he and I agree is a very flawed place) is that it is a country that is to some degree embracing its Christian heritage after having tossed it aside. I think there is more truth than falsehood there: 60-40, 70-30, 52-48?

     

    About 5-95.

    Poland is much more Christian than Russia, restoring Catholic Church in all of its medieval glory. But it is loyal NATO country, and this matters. Ukraine is as Christian as Russia (or even more - it is one of three European countries that ban porn), but it is great European democracy and bullwark against Russia.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  4. The DNC sounds more and more like the Church of Scientology, where every bit of bad publicity or difficult question about operations is due to some kind of conspiracy. That level of paranoia is frightening.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @a boy and his dog


    The DNC sounds more and more like the Church of Scientology, where every bit of bad publicity or difficult question about operations is due to some kind of conspiracy. That level of paranoia is frightening.
     
    Donna Brazille is a supressive person.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  5. Another Clintonista’s reaction to this:

    https://twitter.com/shakestweetz/status/926899328878366720

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    Well... maybe I am misreading things, but I can entirely believe that Bill had some "fun" in an amoral, immoral, nihilistic way, that involved getting to know some teenage volunteers... but it is not clear to me if Hillary has had any fun in decades. Or... maybe Bill got to know some 18-year-old volunteers who had the legal right to do whatever they wanted and Steve is not at risk of libeling anyone. I think that is what I meant. But I don't think Hillary was enjoying it.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Dave Pinsen

    And it's pretty clear that Melissa McEwan is a real fun-loving person herself.

    Replies: @Space Ghost

  6. @Anonymous
    Bruce Charlton periodically reiterates (or maybe he's done it, like, once, and I remember it) that the real reason they go after Russia (which he and I agree is a very flawed place) is that it is a country that is to some degree embracing its Christian heritage after having tossed it aside. I think there is more truth than falsehood there: 60-40, 70-30, 52-48?

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Anon, @ChrisZ, @syonredux, @Darin

    Oh? The Mormon heretic is still going on about Christianity? Hasn’t gone full LDS and repudiated Christiandom yet?

  7. The pivotal moment in the 2016 campaign. Pepe!

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Trelane

    All these videos are fake! Fake, I say! They were produced in Vladimir Putin's basement with the assistance of Steve Sailer, John Derbyshire and Ron Unz and made public via the headquarters of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy, better known as Fox News.

    Starting with Putin, all were in on the Conspiracy to deny Hillary Clinton her birthright, so there!!!

  8. Putin was so busy during the 2016 campaign I don’t see how he had any time for his own country’s affairs. You have to admire his stamina.

    Here’s the story that broke last Thursday morning regarding more Clinton shenanigans during the primary (in which Donna Brazile was supposedly an unwitting tool) but none of the major news networks carried it.

    Donna Brazile, former interim chair of the Democratic National Committee, said Hillary Clinton gained control of the political party before she won the presidential nomination in an effort to squeeze out Bernie Sanders…

    Brazile said she eventually discovered that Clinton had entered into a secret agreement with the Hillary Victory Fund, Hillary for America and the cash-strapped DNC that in exchange for raising funds, Clinton “​would control the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised.”

    http://nypost.com/2017/11/02/ex-dnc-chair-reveals-how-clinton-rigged-dem-primary/amp/

    Another obvious case of Russian interference.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Bernardista

    Last night, the Brazile/Hillary Victory Fund episode was covered by network evening news. Both NBC and CBS, IIRC. Once a left-unfriendly story builds up a big enough head of steam, MSM organs may decide that they have to Notice.

  9. To be fair to the Clintonistas, the “propaganda” they are talking about is not Hillary fainting, it’s the wild speculation about “leg braces” and “urinary catheters” that were “visible in the video” and Hillary’s “Parkinson’s Disease.”

    I think it’s a shame that iSteve became a propaganda outlet during the election, but now that it’s over, let’s get our collective senses back. Commenter Pepperinmono, could not diagnose Hillary with a neurological disorder from a 20 second video clip, whatever he says.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Chrisnonymous

    Lmao who appointed your ass hall monitor around here.

    , @anonguy
    @Chrisnonymous


    I think it’s a shame that iSteve became a propaganda outlet during the election, but now that it’s over, let’s get our collective senses back. Commenter Pepperinmono, could not diagnose Hillary with a neurological disorder from a 20 second video clip, whatever he says.
     
    More beautiful loser puling. Good thing you aren't in charge.
    , @pepperinmono
    @Chrisnonymous

    Not obsessed much are we?.
    Relax, dude.
    It's not about me.
    If I remember, you got all hyped up about this at the time.

    All I know (commenter unit472 concurs) is that she exhibited some distinctly abnormal
    movements that well people don't do.
    Never claimed to be Dr. Joseph Bell or to know the exact cause.
    And, her campaign tried to hide any health issues she had.

    You think it's a shame iSteve became a propaganda outlet during the election.?
    Newsflash: Russians hack iSteve!
    What a fucking insult.

    Also, why would anyone want to be fair to the Clintonistas?
    Malcolm Little's dictum is correct.
    Clinton needed to be defeated " by any means necessary".
    As I blogged before, if the Russians DID hack the election, thank God!

    You need to figure some shit out about yourself.
    Do you want to continue to jerk off or do you want to get laid?

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    , @Percy Gryce
    @Chrisnonymous

    You can hear the piece of metal that falls out of her pantsuit as it hits the ground @0:12.

  10. In the end, Hillary was Russia’s most valuable asset. The Useful-Idiot-in-Chief, as it were.

  11. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Bruce Charlton periodically reiterates (or maybe he's done it, like, once, and I remember it) that the real reason they go after Russia (which he and I agree is a very flawed place) is that it is a country that is to some degree embracing its Christian heritage after having tossed it aside. I think there is more truth than falsehood there: 60-40, 70-30, 52-48?

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Anon, @ChrisZ, @syonredux, @Darin

    They’re going after Russia because it’s there. Democrats are desperate to blame somebody besides themselves for losing the election. Part of problem with those who suffer from delusions of grandeur is if their dream fantasy doesn’t come true, then it has to be because there’s an evil conspiracy against them. They’re not about to blame themselves for being a bunch of morons.

    Democrats engage in a lot of childlike, magical thinking.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    @Anon

    Part of the childlike thinking is that they really truly want to believe in some big bad all-powerful dad who's in charge.

    If you don't project that desire onto a Theory Of Mind in the sky, you have to project it onto more quotidian individuals and experiences.

    And when you consider the passel of cat ladies and numales among the Dems, the shirtless bear-riding shark-punching puppy-cuddling ex-KGB guy haunts their psyches in ways they can't begin to comprehend.

  12. The blue shades wearing zombie at the 9/11 memorial was bad but that convulsion she had with her head rocking back and forth while she kept grinning like an idiot couldn’t be passed off as a mild case pneumonia. Something is seriously wrong with this woman and it wasn’t the iced coffee.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    @unit472

    9/11/2012 was a very bad day for HRC. One can sympathize with her needing "a little help" to get through a 9/11 anniversary.

    Anyhow, once they got her into the van (and hit her with Narcan?) she was fine.

  13. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Another Clintonista's reaction to this:

    https://twitter.com/shakestweetz/status/926899328878366720

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    Well… maybe I am misreading things, but I can entirely believe that Bill had some “fun” in an amoral, immoral, nihilistic way, that involved getting to know some teenage volunteers… but it is not clear to me if Hillary has had any fun in decades. Or… maybe Bill got to know some 18-year-old volunteers who had the legal right to do whatever they wanted and Steve is not at risk of libeling anyone. I think that is what I meant. But I don’t think Hillary was enjoying it.

  14. The real, underlying scandal is not that Russians interfered in our elections (like that’s new?), but that Russian interests now coincide more with regular Americans than do those of all the Democrats and half the Republicans.

    Interfere more!

    I know of no reason
    facepowder treason
    should ever be forgot…

    • Replies: @jimbojones
    @Reg Cæsar

    There remains zero proof that the Russians interfered in the election. No one has yet even offered a reasonably plausible motive for the Russians to interfere, beyond stuff like "they hated Hillary because she Good and they loved Trump because he Bad".

    The real scandals are many and mostly involve the Democratic party:
    - It has now been proven that the Obama White House spied on Trump's campaign. The apparent justification for the spying was the Steele dossier, which we now know was ordered by Democratic party operatives. The entire affairs stinks.
    - Podesta's emails proved that Facebook explicitly supported Clinton during the election. Twitter recently admitted to helping Clinton by muting tweets. Recent Project Veritas expose proved (as if we needed proof) that the NYT and CNN are hysterically biased against Trump.
    - The Clinton machine railroaded Sanders with incredible cynicism.
    - The Democrats refused to properly concede defeat and to this day "demonstrate" against the legitimate and legitimately elected President of the United States - despite their heated rhetoric during the presidential debates a year ago.

    Frankly, it sounds like Hillary and Obama, on top of burring their own party through incompetence of heroic proportions, have committed wrongdoings worse than anything Nixon ever did.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @guest

  15. @a boy and his dog
    The DNC sounds more and more like the Church of Scientology, where every bit of bad publicity or difficult question about operations is due to some kind of conspiracy. That level of paranoia is frightening.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    The DNC sounds more and more like the Church of Scientology, where every bit of bad publicity or difficult question about operations is due to some kind of conspiracy. That level of paranoia is frightening.

    Donna Brazille is a supressive person.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Mr. Anon

    The best thing that ever happens to most scienos is getting that goldenrod SP Declare in the mail.
    Many have them framed on the wall.

  16. @Reg Cæsar
    The real, underlying scandal is not that Russians interfered in our elections (like that's new?), but that Russian interests now coincide more with regular Americans than do those of all the Democrats and half the Republicans.

    Interfere more!

    I know of no reason
    facepowder treason
    should ever be forgot...

    Replies: @jimbojones

    There remains zero proof that the Russians interfered in the election. No one has yet even offered a reasonably plausible motive for the Russians to interfere, beyond stuff like “they hated Hillary because she Good and they loved Trump because he Bad”.

    The real scandals are many and mostly involve the Democratic party:
    – It has now been proven that the Obama White House spied on Trump’s campaign. The apparent justification for the spying was the Steele dossier, which we now know was ordered by Democratic party operatives. The entire affairs stinks.
    – Podesta’s emails proved that Facebook explicitly supported Clinton during the election. Twitter recently admitted to helping Clinton by muting tweets. Recent Project Veritas expose proved (as if we needed proof) that the NYT and CNN are hysterically biased against Trump.
    – The Clinton machine railroaded Sanders with incredible cynicism.
    – The Democrats refused to properly concede defeat and to this day “demonstrate” against the legitimate and legitimately elected President of the United States – despite their heated rhetoric during the presidential debates a year ago.

    Frankly, it sounds like Hillary and Obama, on top of burring their own party through incompetence of heroic proportions, have committed wrongdoings worse than anything Nixon ever did.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @jimbojones

    This is a really good summary of things so far. I have to wonder too if Project Veritas' earlier win ended up severely weakening Hillary's dirty tricks ground game in key states like Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania? Did vans not get rented, envelopes of cash not get distributed and campaign signs not get vandalized in key spots?

    Dem operative 'stepping back' after video suggests group incited violence at Trump rallies
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/18/politics/project-veritas-action-robert-creamer-donald-trump-rallies/

    , @guest
    @jimbojones

    There is a plausible motive: that's what countries with big intelligence budgets and overseas "interests" do.

    Of course, that doesn't mean anything, because no one wants to be pinned down as to just how interfere-y Russia was. Maybe it means Trump was a Manchurian Candidate, maybe they literally "hacked" voting machines, maybe they were behind the DNC Wikileaks emails, or may be they merely bought $1,500-worth of ads on Facebook. If you don't specify which, you can pretend it's all at once.

    You're right, Russia wouldn't have a plausible motive for outright determining the election, like the CIA in a banana republic. Because however unpalatable Putin may have found Hillary's saber rattling, at least he knows the Clintons like playing Make a Deal. Trump, on the other hand, is a wild card. Who knows, he could have gone full neocon or full Charles Lindbergh.

    Unless Trump was "in the bag" for them. But then they run the risk of being discovered. Or losing control.

  17. I was just saying to my wife, who has become fascinated by the NYT‘s failure to cover the Brazile story, that this is the most amazing uncommented-upon aspect of it. I love that it’s coming back.

  18. This Russians-under-the-bed psychosis is fascinating to observe.

  19. @Anonymous
    Bruce Charlton periodically reiterates (or maybe he's done it, like, once, and I remember it) that the real reason they go after Russia (which he and I agree is a very flawed place) is that it is a country that is to some degree embracing its Christian heritage after having tossed it aside. I think there is more truth than falsehood there: 60-40, 70-30, 52-48?

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Anon, @ChrisZ, @syonredux, @Darin

    I’ve come to the same conclusion, bolstered this week when I heard a talk in which a former “religion outreach” official under Pres. Obama casually suggested that there was something sinister about any American who merely showed an interest in Russian Orthodoxy.

    I wish I could thank you by name for putting me on to Dr. Charlton’s blog, Anonymous; or at least be able to recognize your comments in the future through a suitable nickname. But thanks all the same. To others reading this, if the name “Owen Barfield” rings any intellectual bells, you’ll appreciate Charlton too.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @ChrisZ

    I'm the same Anon as above.

    Owen Barfield is extremely interesting, but I learned about him from reading Charlton. I've since touted him to others in real life.

    I used to post here, for a while, under a fixed handle, as per Ron's policy, but I realized I was saying enough that I could be personally identified by anyone interested. At the moment my situation is not good, and I don't want that. Life requires courage though, so I'm working on something....

    I personally find Charlton to be the most insightful and interesting person I've ever found via the internet. Some of the things he says strike me as "batshit crazy". But they strike me as being at least close to the mark. I find Mormonism to be somewhat "batshit crazy" but I get it, in some way, even if I am also somewhat repulsed. The appeal of Russian orthodoxy makes more sense to me, as someone ostensibly raised Catholic against a secularist background.

    Recently I've been reading both Rod Dreher and Vox Day, to about the same degree. That's interesting.

    Replies: @ChrisZ

  20. Wasn’t Donna Brazile the one who told the hillary campaign that she sometimes gets debate questions – agsinst Sanders – in advance?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Moshe


    Wasn’t Donna Brazile the one who told the hillary campaign that she sometimes gets debate questions – agsinst Sanders – in advance?
     
    Yes, she did. I wonder how she'll handle that.
  21. … Russian-fueled propaganda, spread by both the Russians and our opponent, about our candidate’s health.

    Donna Brazile’s memoir is brutally titled

    Hacks: The Inside Story of the Break-ins and Breakdowns that Put Donald Trump in the White House

  22. @Moshe
    Wasn't Donna Brazile the one who told the hillary campaign that she sometimes gets debate questions - agsinst Sanders - in advance?

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Wasn’t Donna Brazile the one who told the hillary campaign that she sometimes gets debate questions – agsinst Sanders – in advance?

    Yes, she did. I wonder how she’ll handle that.

  23. @unit472
    The blue shades wearing zombie at the 9/11 memorial was bad but that convulsion she had with her head rocking back and forth while she kept grinning like an idiot couldn't be passed off as a mild case pneumonia. Something is seriously wrong with this woman and it wasn't the iced coffee.

    Replies: @Coemgen

    9/11/2012 was a very bad day for HRC. One can sympathize with her needing “a little help” to get through a 9/11 anniversary.

    Anyhow, once they got her into the van (and hit her with Narcan?) she was fine.

  24. @jimbojones
    @Reg Cæsar

    There remains zero proof that the Russians interfered in the election. No one has yet even offered a reasonably plausible motive for the Russians to interfere, beyond stuff like "they hated Hillary because she Good and they loved Trump because he Bad".

    The real scandals are many and mostly involve the Democratic party:
    - It has now been proven that the Obama White House spied on Trump's campaign. The apparent justification for the spying was the Steele dossier, which we now know was ordered by Democratic party operatives. The entire affairs stinks.
    - Podesta's emails proved that Facebook explicitly supported Clinton during the election. Twitter recently admitted to helping Clinton by muting tweets. Recent Project Veritas expose proved (as if we needed proof) that the NYT and CNN are hysterically biased against Trump.
    - The Clinton machine railroaded Sanders with incredible cynicism.
    - The Democrats refused to properly concede defeat and to this day "demonstrate" against the legitimate and legitimately elected President of the United States - despite their heated rhetoric during the presidential debates a year ago.

    Frankly, it sounds like Hillary and Obama, on top of burring their own party through incompetence of heroic proportions, have committed wrongdoings worse than anything Nixon ever did.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @guest

    This is a really good summary of things so far. I have to wonder too if Project Veritas’ earlier win ended up severely weakening Hillary’s dirty tricks ground game in key states like Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania? Did vans not get rented, envelopes of cash not get distributed and campaign signs not get vandalized in key spots?

    Dem operative ‘stepping back’ after video suggests group incited violence at Trump rallies
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/18/politics/project-veritas-action-robert-creamer-donald-trump-rallies/

    • Agree: Desiderius
  25. @Chrisnonymous
    To be fair to the Clintonistas, the "propaganda" they are talking about is not Hillary fainting, it's the wild speculation about "leg braces" and "urinary catheters" that were "visible in the video" and Hillary's "Parkinson's Disease."

    I think it's a shame that iSteve became a propaganda outlet during the election, but now that it's over, let's get our collective senses back. Commenter Pepperinmono, could not diagnose Hillary with a neurological disorder from a 20 second video clip, whatever he says.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @anonguy, @pepperinmono, @Percy Gryce

    Lmao who appointed your ass hall monitor around here.

  26. @Chrisnonymous
    To be fair to the Clintonistas, the "propaganda" they are talking about is not Hillary fainting, it's the wild speculation about "leg braces" and "urinary catheters" that were "visible in the video" and Hillary's "Parkinson's Disease."

    I think it's a shame that iSteve became a propaganda outlet during the election, but now that it's over, let's get our collective senses back. Commenter Pepperinmono, could not diagnose Hillary with a neurological disorder from a 20 second video clip, whatever he says.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @anonguy, @pepperinmono, @Percy Gryce

    I think it’s a shame that iSteve became a propaganda outlet during the election, but now that it’s over, let’s get our collective senses back. Commenter Pepperinmono, could not diagnose Hillary with a neurological disorder from a 20 second video clip, whatever he says.

    More beautiful loser puling. Good thing you aren’t in charge.

  27. Brazile is a lying hack, so all of her recollections need to be taken with a sackful of salt. Still, it is interesting to see someone at her level tossing Clinton under the bus – it’s a sea change in the Democratic party and a signal that more and more heavyweight Dems are realizing they were on autopilot in 2016 and totally blew the election as a result.

  28. @Bernardista
    Putin was so busy during the 2016 campaign I don't see how he had any time for his own country's affairs. You have to admire his stamina.

    Here's the story that broke last Thursday morning regarding more Clinton shenanigans during the primary (in which Donna Brazile was supposedly an unwitting tool) but none of the major news networks carried it.

    Donna Brazile, former interim chair of the Democratic National Committee, said Hillary Clinton gained control of the political party before she won the presidential nomination in an effort to squeeze out Bernie Sanders...

    Brazile said she eventually discovered that Clinton had entered into a secret agreement with the Hillary Victory Fund, Hillary for America and the cash-strapped DNC that in exchange for raising funds, Clinton “​would control the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised.”
     
    http://nypost.com/2017/11/02/ex-dnc-chair-reveals-how-clinton-rigged-dem-primary/amp/

    Another obvious case of Russian interference.

    Replies: @ic1000

    Last night, the Brazile/Hillary Victory Fund episode was covered by network evening news. Both NBC and CBS, IIRC. Once a left-unfriendly story builds up a big enough head of steam, MSM organs may decide that they have to Notice.

  29. I think that the entire “Russians interfered with our election!!!!!” meme is a deliberate strategy of inoculation-

    Create a meme that everyone knows is false to protect against one that everyone should recognize as true.

    Imagine after two years of the Russians interfered lie going into the next election cycle, when some (extremely) non establishment candidate tries to bring up:

    Israel interferes in our elections.
    Saudi Arabia interferes in our elections.
    Mexico interferes in our elections.

    Rather unsettling idea.

  30. Can’t wait for Hillary to publish a book where she blames the Russians for every bad thing for the past millennium. (Well, except for that period from 1917 to 1989, when they were OK.)

    She could call it, “Her Struggle”.

    “Ihre Kampf” in the German translation.

  31. @Chrisnonymous
    To be fair to the Clintonistas, the "propaganda" they are talking about is not Hillary fainting, it's the wild speculation about "leg braces" and "urinary catheters" that were "visible in the video" and Hillary's "Parkinson's Disease."

    I think it's a shame that iSteve became a propaganda outlet during the election, but now that it's over, let's get our collective senses back. Commenter Pepperinmono, could not diagnose Hillary with a neurological disorder from a 20 second video clip, whatever he says.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @anonguy, @pepperinmono, @Percy Gryce

    Not obsessed much are we?.
    Relax, dude.
    It’s not about me.
    If I remember, you got all hyped up about this at the time.

    All I know (commenter unit472 concurs) is that she exhibited some distinctly abnormal
    movements that well people don’t do.
    Never claimed to be Dr. Joseph Bell or to know the exact cause.
    And, her campaign tried to hide any health issues she had.

    You think it’s a shame iSteve became a propaganda outlet during the election.?
    Newsflash: Russians hack iSteve!
    What a fucking insult.

    Also, why would anyone want to be fair to the Clintonistas?
    Malcolm Little’s dictum is correct.
    Clinton needed to be defeated ” by any means necessary”.
    As I blogged before, if the Russians DID hack the election, thank God!

    You need to figure some shit out about yourself.
    Do you want to continue to jerk off or do you want to get laid?

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @pepperinmono

    Russians?

    As I wrote before, propaganda is all good in the right venue. But convincing people on iSteve isn't going to win any election. iSteve ought to remain a truth zone. When the line gets blurred, it gets problematic. For example, if someone brings up Russian hacking scandal as a way to dismiss and smear in a context that has nothing to do with Russian hacking, it gets to be too difficult and boring to correct.

  32. …she saw the nominee backstage at a Manhattan gala and she seemed “wobbly on her feet” and had a “rattled cough.” Brazile recommended Clinton see an acupuncturist.

    This on its own, if true, seems to deny Brazile any kind of credibility whatsoever as a serious person, other than as a kind of weatherhen to cluck about which way the wind is blowing as far as African-American votes are concerned.

    I suppose if Brazile was from California, then there might be some excuse, but she is from New Orleans, where people know full well that these kind of symptoms require a voodoo recipe of jimson weed with sulfur and honey to be placed in a glass, rubbed against a black cat, mixed with a generous shot of rum, and then slowly sipped. How could she forget her rootwork?

    The biggest problem Hillary had was that she was unable to get the black vote to turn out in the same numbers that turned out for Obama. It is not easy to get the black vote out as on Presidential election days schools are often used for polling and children have to stay home and someone has to stay home with them, wages are lost, and so on.

    If people are working various shifts, then it is not so easy to get to the polls, especially in the evenings when the same issues of child care and getting an evening meal come up, so it takes something special to boost the black vote.

    Hillary did not have that extra ingredient and believed that she could coast home with the bicoastal vote against pussy-grabbing. Having the Democratic party running such a weak candidate was an enormous windfall for Republicans, especially since their own candidate was arguably worse. Hillary’s weakness was that she could not connect with voters, was sick, and would have been a terrible President, Trump’s that once in office, he could neither lead nor govern, nor remember what promises he had made when running, never mind implement them.

    Like his predecessor, Trump finds that the best solution to most White House tomfoolery is to play golf as often as possible, lie about his scores and everything else, and to take as many mulligans as possible.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Jonathan Mason


    Trump’s that once in office, he could neither lead nor govern, nor remember what promises he had made when running, never mind implement them.
     
    Praise God, you've never been in a country that was truly ungoverned and unled. Better pray you never will.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

  33. @Luke Lea
    Slightly OT, but the Associated Press has a long piece out, "Inside story: How Russians hacked the Democrats’ emails," that only has one weakness: the hacker known as Fancy Bear, AP believes is responsible for hacking the NNC and Podesta, is, according AP's source, Secureworks, maybe not connected to the Russians. They (Secureworks) have only "medium confidence" that Fancy Bear is tied to the Russians, something you only find out if you Google for more information.

    https://goo.gl/Q7wmpo

    Replies: @ic1000

    CBS’ “Meet The Press” has host John Dickerson excitedly agreeing with interviewing Sen. Mark Warner about the threatening menace of the Russians under every bed who stole the election for Trump and soiled the virginal probity of the I’m With Her! campaign, with Putin’s evil, masterful hackers foiling the Democratic Party’s defenders of democracy.

    Meanwhile, on some different planet, Steve McIntyre has devoted a few recent Climate Audit posts to examination of the matruska-doll stories of the poor security, hacking episodes (plural) and/or leaking of the DNC servers. Most recent one here. Some of the commenters appear to be quite technically proficient in the relevant areas.

    While I do not have the competence to evaluate experts’ arguments in this area, a few themes keep recurring, at Climate Audit and other places.

    * Very little certainty on many key aspects of these stories can be justified. The state of the art of cybersecurity is not adequate for assigning definite responsibility for most of the serious hack/leak episodes to “The Russians”, or anybody else.

    * Much of the information that forms the foundation for this morning’s “Meet The Press” analysis has been provided by people and organizations with conflicts of interest. Most of these reports also demonstrate a low level of technical competence.

    * Mainstream media organs ignore evidence that doesn’t fit with the prevailing narrative of the moment.

    None of this will be at all surprising to readers inside the iSteve bubble. It’s useful to remember that these bullet points are unknown to most Americans.

    FWIW I think Steve’s depiction of Putin as a “neo-Czar” is on the money. Nobody should be shocked when the Czar fails to play by Queensbury Rules, thus it is unsurprising that Russia did attempt to interfere with the US electoral process. Seems like a modest effort, compared to what the Soviet Union and other countries have done in years past, China and Israel prominently among them. And what the U.S. government (Nuland) and quasi-government organs (Soros) have done in Russia and its Near Abroad.

    If it’s reasonable to rule out infantile levels of credulity as the culprit, Mr. Dickerson’s and Sen. Warner’s shock is just the latest case of Gambling at Rick’s.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @ic1000

    While I have never ruled out Russian interference, if it happened it wouldn't be the first time a foreign power interjected itself in American politics, going back to the X, Y, Z Affair during the Adams the Elder administration. Hey, all countries will do what they have to do to protect their interests, including--Ahem!--the Yoo Ess of Aay, and if we happen to get screwed in the end, shame on us.

    Replies: @Nico

    , @guest
    @ic1000

    "Nobody should be surprised when the Czar fails to play by Queensbury Rules"

    Nobody should be surprised that everyone strays from the rules, if there are in fact any rules.

    If there are countries who refrain from interfering in foreign elections, it's probably because they lack the ability or sufficient money.

  34. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Back when Joseph McCarthy was claiming Russian communist infiltration it was all wrong and fabricated and they coined a term for it, ‘McCarthyism’. Now, however, sinister Russian penetration is real and is everywhere. What’s changed?
    I thought, from the video, that Hillary was merely drunk that morning. Functional alcoholics sometimes overdo it and fold up. Her staff seemed to be tracking her closely as if they were expecting something like this and knew what to do right away.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @anonymous

    One thing that's changed is that McCarthy's accusations appeared to be rather more founded in reality than the present ones.

  35. The establishment shrieks about Russian interference in our elections in order to draw attention from Israeli and Mexican interference (among others)

  36. Donna Brazile’s memoir is brutally titled

    Hack: How I Could Publish Anything and You Idiots Would Lap It Up.

  37. The biggest problem Hillary had was that she was unable to get the black vote to turn out in the same numbers that turned out for Obama. It is not easy to get the black vote out as on Presidential election days schools are often used for polling and children have to stay home and someone has to stay home with them, wages are lost, and so on.

    If people are working various shifts, then it is not so easy to get to the polls, especially in the evenings when the same issues of child care and getting an evening meal come up, so it takes something special to boost the black vote.

    *Requests mail ballot*
    *Receives mail ballot*
    *Fills out ballot and mails it*

    *Whew* I’m all tired out. This is too much like work. The days of slavery be ova!

  38. * Very little certainty on many key aspects of these stories can be justified. The state of the art of cybersecurity is not adequate for assigning definite responsibility for most of the serious hack/leak episodes to “The Russians”, or anybody else.

    Even if you trace it to an exact location, so what? It could still be anybody originating the attack; Russian gov’t, US gov’t, Israeli gov’t, native criminals in Russia, foreign criminals in Russia, etc. And any one of these could be used as a cut-out or middle man.

  39. @Anonymous
    Bruce Charlton periodically reiterates (or maybe he's done it, like, once, and I remember it) that the real reason they go after Russia (which he and I agree is a very flawed place) is that it is a country that is to some degree embracing its Christian heritage after having tossed it aside. I think there is more truth than falsehood there: 60-40, 70-30, 52-48?

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Anon, @ChrisZ, @syonredux, @Darin

    is that it is a country that is to some degree embracing its Christian heritage after having tossed it aside. I think there is more truth than falsehood there: 60-40, 70-30, 52-48?

    Russia is White + Christian, which makes it the perfect enemy for the Baizuo and POC.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @syonredux

    It is always open to Trump to use military pressure on Russia to prove they have nothing on him. It would also distract public opinion and divert the FBI and other agencies' resources. Moreover it would be difficult to get an indictment amid an international crisis. The special prosecutor is making the US muscling Russia quite possible. A non-proxy war is unlikely because the US has total superiority especially in nukes. Although US nukes are still START-limited, many have been upgraded with new bulls-eye fuses, conferring something close to a first strike capability. He could get into it with Russia via Iran.

  40. Criticism of the Clinton campaign in the media is like Goodwin’s Law. Eventually the noticer will be tarred as a Russian agent or apologist. Glenn Greenwald has written about this, at one point in reference to a Washington Post story that purported to list all of the media outlets that were serving as Russian fronts.

  41. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Trelane
    The pivotal moment in the 2016 campaign. Pepe!
    https://youtu.be/A1EqkwHd1zI

    Replies: @anonymous

    All these videos are fake! Fake, I say! They were produced in Vladimir Putin’s basement with the assistance of Steve Sailer, John Derbyshire and Ron Unz and made public via the headquarters of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy, better known as Fox News.

    Starting with Putin, all were in on the Conspiracy to deny Hillary Clinton her birthright, so there!!!

  42. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @ic1000
    @Luke Lea

    CBS' "Meet The Press" has host John Dickerson excitedly agreeing with interviewing Sen. Mark Warner about the threatening menace of the Russians under every bed who stole the election for Trump and soiled the virginal probity of the I'm With Her! campaign, with Putin's evil, masterful hackers foiling the Democratic Party's defenders of democracy.

    Meanwhile, on some different planet, Steve McIntyre has devoted a few recent Climate Audit posts to examination of the matruska-doll stories of the poor security, hacking episodes (plural) and/or leaking of the DNC servers. Most recent one here. Some of the commenters appear to be quite technically proficient in the relevant areas.

    While I do not have the competence to evaluate experts' arguments in this area, a few themes keep recurring, at Climate Audit and other places.

    * Very little certainty on many key aspects of these stories can be justified. The state of the art of cybersecurity is not adequate for assigning definite responsibility for most of the serious hack/leak episodes to "The Russians", or anybody else.

    * Much of the information that forms the foundation for this morning's "Meet The Press" analysis has been provided by people and organizations with conflicts of interest. Most of these reports also demonstrate a low level of technical competence.

    * Mainstream media organs ignore evidence that doesn't fit with the prevailing narrative of the moment.

    None of this will be at all surprising to readers inside the iSteve bubble. It's useful to remember that these bullet points are unknown to most Americans.

    FWIW I think Steve's depiction of Putin as a "neo-Czar" is on the money. Nobody should be shocked when the Czar fails to play by Queensbury Rules, thus it is unsurprising that Russia did attempt to interfere with the US electoral process. Seems like a modest effort, compared to what the Soviet Union and other countries have done in years past, China and Israel prominently among them. And what the U.S. government (Nuland) and quasi-government organs (Soros) have done in Russia and its Near Abroad.

    If it's reasonable to rule out infantile levels of credulity as the culprit, Mr. Dickerson's and Sen. Warner's shock is just the latest case of Gambling at Rick's.

    Replies: @anonymous, @guest

    While I have never ruled out Russian interference, if it happened it wouldn’t be the first time a foreign power interjected itself in American politics, going back to the X, Y, Z Affair during the Adams the Elder administration. Hey, all countries will do what they have to do to protect their interests, including–Ahem!–the Yoo Ess of Aay, and if we happen to get screwed in the end, shame on us.

    • Replies: @Nico
    @anonymous

    The left's whining on foreign intervention has never been consistent. We hear a lot about U.S. "imperialism" through CIA interventions and such, but rarely do we hear that in the 1948 Italian elections the CIA supplied up to $1 million to Christian Democracy while the U.S.S.R. funneled up to $8 million to the Italian Communist Party.

  43. @Anonymous
    Bruce Charlton periodically reiterates (or maybe he's done it, like, once, and I remember it) that the real reason they go after Russia (which he and I agree is a very flawed place) is that it is a country that is to some degree embracing its Christian heritage after having tossed it aside. I think there is more truth than falsehood there: 60-40, 70-30, 52-48?

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Anon, @ChrisZ, @syonredux, @Darin

    Bruce Charlton periodically reiterates

    The guy who believes in elves, dwarves and fairies?

    (or maybe he’s done it, like, once, and I remember it) that the real reason they go after Russia (which he and I agree is a very flawed place) is that it is a country that is to some degree embracing its Christian heritage after having tossed it aside. I think there is more truth than falsehood there: 60-40, 70-30, 52-48?

    About 5-95.

    Poland is much more Christian than Russia, restoring Catholic Church in all of its medieval glory. But it is loyal NATO country, and this matters. Ukraine is as Christian as Russia (or even more – it is one of three European countries that ban porn), but it is great European democracy and bullwark against Russia.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Darin

    I think Charlton does somewhat believe in elves, dwarves and fairies. That certainly runs against the rather rightish social science thrust here, but so be it. But if you are the sort of person inclined towards rightish social science, and yet maybe have a slight degree of affinity for elves, dwarves and fairies, he could be your guy.

    I'm sympathetic to your touting of Poland as more Christian than Russia. I really am, and I am of Polish Catholic background. My sense is that Stalin and Hitler wiped out a lot of Poland, and people need some work to recover it.

  44. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/8/hillary-clinton-dreams-open-borders-leaked-speech-/

    Clinton was clandestinely paid Brazilian asset who covertly promised to lower America’s border defences. A Russian hack (per Wikileaks) revealed Clinton’s treason, and got Trump elected, so he has to be investigated. Good to know the FBI is hot on the the trail of the most dangerous foreign secret agent in America.

  45. The Party wants HRC to go away, but she refuses to leave the stage. She won’t, so they threw her connection to Hollywood, Harvey Weinstein, under the bus. She still won’t go away, having just recently replied in an interview that she is willing to run again, if the people want her, which, of course, they don’t, which doesn’t really amount to a hill of beans, because she still wants the prize.

    The Party now knows that they need to firmly drive a stake through the heart of the beast herself: Hence the Brzile book and its stronger allegations, and the release of additional e-mail scandal-related info by the FBI to the Congressional inquiry.

    The Dem Party knows it might be necessary to destroy the Party in order to save the Party.

  46. @syonredux
    @Anonymous


    is that it is a country that is to some degree embracing its Christian heritage after having tossed it aside. I think there is more truth than falsehood there: 60-40, 70-30, 52-48?
     
    Russia is White + Christian, which makes it the perfect enemy for the Baizuo and POC.

    Replies: @Sean

    It is always open to Trump to use military pressure on Russia to prove they have nothing on him. It would also distract public opinion and divert the FBI and other agencies’ resources. Moreover it would be difficult to get an indictment amid an international crisis. The special prosecutor is making the US muscling Russia quite possible. A non-proxy war is unlikely because the US has total superiority especially in nukes. Although US nukes are still START-limited, many have been upgraded with new bulls-eye fuses, conferring something close to a first strike capability. He could get into it with Russia via Iran.

  47. @Jonathan Mason

    ...she saw the nominee backstage at a Manhattan gala and she seemed "wobbly on her feet" and had a "rattled cough." Brazile recommended Clinton see an acupuncturist.
     
    This on its own, if true, seems to deny Brazile any kind of credibility whatsoever as a serious person, other than as a kind of weatherhen to cluck about which way the wind is blowing as far as African-American votes are concerned.

    I suppose if Brazile was from California, then there might be some excuse, but she is from New Orleans, where people know full well that these kind of symptoms require a voodoo recipe of jimson weed with sulfur and honey to be placed in a glass, rubbed against a black cat, mixed with a generous shot of rum, and then slowly sipped. How could she forget her rootwork?

    The biggest problem Hillary had was that she was unable to get the black vote to turn out in the same numbers that turned out for Obama. It is not easy to get the black vote out as on Presidential election days schools are often used for polling and children have to stay home and someone has to stay home with them, wages are lost, and so on.

    If people are working various shifts, then it is not so easy to get to the polls, especially in the evenings when the same issues of child care and getting an evening meal come up, so it takes something special to boost the black vote.

    Hillary did not have that extra ingredient and believed that she could coast home with the bicoastal vote against pussy-grabbing. Having the Democratic party running such a weak candidate was an enormous windfall for Republicans, especially since their own candidate was arguably worse. Hillary's weakness was that she could not connect with voters, was sick, and would have been a terrible President, Trump's that once in office, he could neither lead nor govern, nor remember what promises he had made when running, never mind implement them.

    Like his predecessor, Trump finds that the best solution to most White House tomfoolery is to play golf as often as possible, lie about his scores and everything else, and to take as many mulligans as possible.

    Replies: @Anon

    Trump’s that once in office, he could neither lead nor govern, nor remember what promises he had made when running, never mind implement them.

    Praise God, you’ve never been in a country that was truly ungoverned and unled. Better pray you never will.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Anon


    Praise God, you’ve never been in a country that was truly ungoverned and unled. Better pray you never will.
     
    I have been in Haiti few times, which I should think would win any international prize for "less government". In fact I was in PaP the week after the massive earthquake of 2010 and I don't think I saw a single police car or yellow tape round a corpse in more than a week.

    However the US has a lot of infrastructure, state and local governments, and so on that is pretty much self perpetuating. As far as Presidents go, we expect them to show leadership in areas of federal government policy where direction can be changed, particularly when they have made promises to do so in exchange for votes, and we expect them to show global crisis leadership and to relate competently to other world leaders at summits.
  48. @Dave Pinsen
    Another Clintonista's reaction to this:

    https://twitter.com/shakestweetz/status/926899328878366720

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    And it’s pretty clear that Melissa McEwan is a real fun-loving person herself.

    • LOL: Dave Pinsen
    • Replies: @Space Ghost
    @Mr. Anon

    “It's a variation on the "humorless feminist" narrative,” said the dour, humorless, sexless feminist.

  49. @pepperinmono
    @Chrisnonymous

    Not obsessed much are we?.
    Relax, dude.
    It's not about me.
    If I remember, you got all hyped up about this at the time.

    All I know (commenter unit472 concurs) is that she exhibited some distinctly abnormal
    movements that well people don't do.
    Never claimed to be Dr. Joseph Bell or to know the exact cause.
    And, her campaign tried to hide any health issues she had.

    You think it's a shame iSteve became a propaganda outlet during the election.?
    Newsflash: Russians hack iSteve!
    What a fucking insult.

    Also, why would anyone want to be fair to the Clintonistas?
    Malcolm Little's dictum is correct.
    Clinton needed to be defeated " by any means necessary".
    As I blogged before, if the Russians DID hack the election, thank God!

    You need to figure some shit out about yourself.
    Do you want to continue to jerk off or do you want to get laid?

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    Russians?

    As I wrote before, propaganda is all good in the right venue. But convincing people on iSteve isn’t going to win any election. iSteve ought to remain a truth zone. When the line gets blurred, it gets problematic. For example, if someone brings up Russian hacking scandal as a way to dismiss and smear in a context that has nothing to do with Russian hacking, it gets to be too difficult and boring to correct.

  50. @Buzz Mohawk
    That beautiful video must be CGI, rendered and animated by some guys in Macedonia.

    Replies: @El Dato

    That van is hiding a grassy knoll, the video was sourced from RT and the people are clearly shopped in,

    I any case, the presidential hopeful was about to be sent out to her weekly reprogramming anyway.

    Like this:

    http://www.comicextra.com/blake-mortimer/chapter-22/47

  51. @anonymous
    @ic1000

    While I have never ruled out Russian interference, if it happened it wouldn't be the first time a foreign power interjected itself in American politics, going back to the X, Y, Z Affair during the Adams the Elder administration. Hey, all countries will do what they have to do to protect their interests, including--Ahem!--the Yoo Ess of Aay, and if we happen to get screwed in the end, shame on us.

    Replies: @Nico

    The left’s whining on foreign intervention has never been consistent. We hear a lot about U.S. “imperialism” through CIA interventions and such, but rarely do we hear that in the 1948 Italian elections the CIA supplied up to $1 million to Christian Democracy while the U.S.S.R. funneled up to $8 million to the Italian Communist Party.

  52. @anonymous
    Back when Joseph McCarthy was claiming Russian communist infiltration it was all wrong and fabricated and they coined a term for it, 'McCarthyism'. Now, however, sinister Russian penetration is real and is everywhere. What's changed?
    I thought, from the video, that Hillary was merely drunk that morning. Functional alcoholics sometimes overdo it and fold up. Her staff seemed to be tracking her closely as if they were expecting something like this and knew what to do right away.

    Replies: @Lurker

    One thing that’s changed is that McCarthy’s accusations appeared to be rather more founded in reality than the present ones.

  53. @Anon
    @Jonathan Mason


    Trump’s that once in office, he could neither lead nor govern, nor remember what promises he had made when running, never mind implement them.
     
    Praise God, you've never been in a country that was truly ungoverned and unled. Better pray you never will.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Praise God, you’ve never been in a country that was truly ungoverned and unled. Better pray you never will.

    I have been in Haiti few times, which I should think would win any international prize for “less government”. In fact I was in PaP the week after the massive earthquake of 2010 and I don’t think I saw a single police car or yellow tape round a corpse in more than a week.

    However the US has a lot of infrastructure, state and local governments, and so on that is pretty much self perpetuating. As far as Presidents go, we expect them to show leadership in areas of federal government policy where direction can be changed, particularly when they have made promises to do so in exchange for votes, and we expect them to show global crisis leadership and to relate competently to other world leaders at summits.

  54. @Mr. Anon
    @a boy and his dog


    The DNC sounds more and more like the Church of Scientology, where every bit of bad publicity or difficult question about operations is due to some kind of conspiracy. That level of paranoia is frightening.
     
    Donna Brazille is a supressive person.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    The best thing that ever happens to most scienos is getting that goldenrod SP Declare in the mail.
    Many have them framed on the wall.

  55. @Mr. Anon
    @Dave Pinsen

    And it's pretty clear that Melissa McEwan is a real fun-loving person herself.

    Replies: @Space Ghost

    “It’s a variation on the “humorless feminist” narrative,” said the dour, humorless, sexless feminist.

  56. @ic1000
    @Luke Lea

    CBS' "Meet The Press" has host John Dickerson excitedly agreeing with interviewing Sen. Mark Warner about the threatening menace of the Russians under every bed who stole the election for Trump and soiled the virginal probity of the I'm With Her! campaign, with Putin's evil, masterful hackers foiling the Democratic Party's defenders of democracy.

    Meanwhile, on some different planet, Steve McIntyre has devoted a few recent Climate Audit posts to examination of the matruska-doll stories of the poor security, hacking episodes (plural) and/or leaking of the DNC servers. Most recent one here. Some of the commenters appear to be quite technically proficient in the relevant areas.

    While I do not have the competence to evaluate experts' arguments in this area, a few themes keep recurring, at Climate Audit and other places.

    * Very little certainty on many key aspects of these stories can be justified. The state of the art of cybersecurity is not adequate for assigning definite responsibility for most of the serious hack/leak episodes to "The Russians", or anybody else.

    * Much of the information that forms the foundation for this morning's "Meet The Press" analysis has been provided by people and organizations with conflicts of interest. Most of these reports also demonstrate a low level of technical competence.

    * Mainstream media organs ignore evidence that doesn't fit with the prevailing narrative of the moment.

    None of this will be at all surprising to readers inside the iSteve bubble. It's useful to remember that these bullet points are unknown to most Americans.

    FWIW I think Steve's depiction of Putin as a "neo-Czar" is on the money. Nobody should be shocked when the Czar fails to play by Queensbury Rules, thus it is unsurprising that Russia did attempt to interfere with the US electoral process. Seems like a modest effort, compared to what the Soviet Union and other countries have done in years past, China and Israel prominently among them. And what the U.S. government (Nuland) and quasi-government organs (Soros) have done in Russia and its Near Abroad.

    If it's reasonable to rule out infantile levels of credulity as the culprit, Mr. Dickerson's and Sen. Warner's shock is just the latest case of Gambling at Rick's.

    Replies: @anonymous, @guest

    “Nobody should be surprised when the Czar fails to play by Queensbury Rules”

    Nobody should be surprised that everyone strays from the rules, if there are in fact any rules.

    If there are countries who refrain from interfering in foreign elections, it’s probably because they lack the ability or sufficient money.

  57. @jimbojones
    @Reg Cæsar

    There remains zero proof that the Russians interfered in the election. No one has yet even offered a reasonably plausible motive for the Russians to interfere, beyond stuff like "they hated Hillary because she Good and they loved Trump because he Bad".

    The real scandals are many and mostly involve the Democratic party:
    - It has now been proven that the Obama White House spied on Trump's campaign. The apparent justification for the spying was the Steele dossier, which we now know was ordered by Democratic party operatives. The entire affairs stinks.
    - Podesta's emails proved that Facebook explicitly supported Clinton during the election. Twitter recently admitted to helping Clinton by muting tweets. Recent Project Veritas expose proved (as if we needed proof) that the NYT and CNN are hysterically biased against Trump.
    - The Clinton machine railroaded Sanders with incredible cynicism.
    - The Democrats refused to properly concede defeat and to this day "demonstrate" against the legitimate and legitimately elected President of the United States - despite their heated rhetoric during the presidential debates a year ago.

    Frankly, it sounds like Hillary and Obama, on top of burring their own party through incompetence of heroic proportions, have committed wrongdoings worse than anything Nixon ever did.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @guest

    There is a plausible motive: that’s what countries with big intelligence budgets and overseas “interests” do.

    Of course, that doesn’t mean anything, because no one wants to be pinned down as to just how interfere-y Russia was. Maybe it means Trump was a Manchurian Candidate, maybe they literally “hacked” voting machines, maybe they were behind the DNC Wikileaks emails, or may be they merely bought $1,500-worth of ads on Facebook. If you don’t specify which, you can pretend it’s all at once.

    You’re right, Russia wouldn’t have a plausible motive for outright determining the election, like the CIA in a banana republic. Because however unpalatable Putin may have found Hillary’s saber rattling, at least he knows the Clintons like playing Make a Deal. Trump, on the other hand, is a wild card. Who knows, he could have gone full neocon or full Charles Lindbergh.

    Unless Trump was “in the bag” for them. But then they run the risk of being discovered. Or losing control.

  58. @Anon
    @Anonymous

    They're going after Russia because it's there. Democrats are desperate to blame somebody besides themselves for losing the election. Part of problem with those who suffer from delusions of grandeur is if their dream fantasy doesn't come true, then it has to be because there's an evil conspiracy against them. They're not about to blame themselves for being a bunch of morons.

    Democrats engage in a lot of childlike, magical thinking.

    Replies: @Olorin

    Part of the childlike thinking is that they really truly want to believe in some big bad all-powerful dad who’s in charge.

    If you don’t project that desire onto a Theory Of Mind in the sky, you have to project it onto more quotidian individuals and experiences.

    And when you consider the passel of cat ladies and numales among the Dems, the shirtless bear-riding shark-punching puppy-cuddling ex-KGB guy haunts their psyches in ways they can’t begin to comprehend.

  59. @Chrisnonymous
    To be fair to the Clintonistas, the "propaganda" they are talking about is not Hillary fainting, it's the wild speculation about "leg braces" and "urinary catheters" that were "visible in the video" and Hillary's "Parkinson's Disease."

    I think it's a shame that iSteve became a propaganda outlet during the election, but now that it's over, let's get our collective senses back. Commenter Pepperinmono, could not diagnose Hillary with a neurological disorder from a 20 second video clip, whatever he says.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @anonguy, @pepperinmono, @Percy Gryce

    You can hear the piece of metal that falls out of her pantsuit as it hits the ground @0:12.

  60. You’re right, Russia wouldn’t have a plausible motive for outright determining the election, like the CIA in a banana republic.

    Interfering isn’t necessarily taking sides. Some Russian at Bloomberg explained that their real goal would simply be to sow– or in our case, to take advantage of already-sown– discord in the land.

    And why not? That’s what they’ve been doing for decades, isn’t it?

  61. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @ChrisZ
    @Anonymous

    I’ve come to the same conclusion, bolstered this week when I heard a talk in which a former “religion outreach” official under Pres. Obama casually suggested that there was something sinister about any American who merely showed an interest in Russian Orthodoxy.

    I wish I could thank you by name for putting me on to Dr. Charlton’s blog, Anonymous; or at least be able to recognize your comments in the future through a suitable nickname. But thanks all the same. To others reading this, if the name “Owen Barfield” rings any intellectual bells, you’ll appreciate Charlton too.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I’m the same Anon as above.

    Owen Barfield is extremely interesting, but I learned about him from reading Charlton. I’ve since touted him to others in real life.

    I used to post here, for a while, under a fixed handle, as per Ron’s policy, but I realized I was saying enough that I could be personally identified by anyone interested. At the moment my situation is not good, and I don’t want that. Life requires courage though, so I’m working on something….

    I personally find Charlton to be the most insightful and interesting person I’ve ever found via the internet. Some of the things he says strike me as “batshit crazy”. But they strike me as being at least close to the mark. I find Mormonism to be somewhat “batshit crazy” but I get it, in some way, even if I am also somewhat repulsed. The appeal of Russian orthodoxy makes more sense to me, as someone ostensibly raised Catholic against a secularist background.

    Recently I’ve been reading both Rod Dreher and Vox Day, to about the same degree. That’s interesting.

    • Replies: @ChrisZ
    @Anonymous

    Thanks for this reply, and my best wishes to you in your current situation and in that “something” you’re working on.

  62. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Darin
    @Anonymous


    Bruce Charlton periodically reiterates
     
    The guy who believes in elves, dwarves and fairies?


    (or maybe he’s done it, like, once, and I remember it) that the real reason they go after Russia (which he and I agree is a very flawed place) is that it is a country that is to some degree embracing its Christian heritage after having tossed it aside. I think there is more truth than falsehood there: 60-40, 70-30, 52-48?

     

    About 5-95.

    Poland is much more Christian than Russia, restoring Catholic Church in all of its medieval glory. But it is loyal NATO country, and this matters. Ukraine is as Christian as Russia (or even more - it is one of three European countries that ban porn), but it is great European democracy and bullwark against Russia.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I think Charlton does somewhat believe in elves, dwarves and fairies. That certainly runs against the rather rightish social science thrust here, but so be it. But if you are the sort of person inclined towards rightish social science, and yet maybe have a slight degree of affinity for elves, dwarves and fairies, he could be your guy.

    I’m sympathetic to your touting of Poland as more Christian than Russia. I really am, and I am of Polish Catholic background. My sense is that Stalin and Hitler wiped out a lot of Poland, and people need some work to recover it.

  63. @Anonymous
    @ChrisZ

    I'm the same Anon as above.

    Owen Barfield is extremely interesting, but I learned about him from reading Charlton. I've since touted him to others in real life.

    I used to post here, for a while, under a fixed handle, as per Ron's policy, but I realized I was saying enough that I could be personally identified by anyone interested. At the moment my situation is not good, and I don't want that. Life requires courage though, so I'm working on something....

    I personally find Charlton to be the most insightful and interesting person I've ever found via the internet. Some of the things he says strike me as "batshit crazy". But they strike me as being at least close to the mark. I find Mormonism to be somewhat "batshit crazy" but I get it, in some way, even if I am also somewhat repulsed. The appeal of Russian orthodoxy makes more sense to me, as someone ostensibly raised Catholic against a secularist background.

    Recently I've been reading both Rod Dreher and Vox Day, to about the same degree. That's interesting.

    Replies: @ChrisZ

    Thanks for this reply, and my best wishes to you in your current situation and in that “something” you’re working on.

  64. So, remember, a bystander didn’t actually happen to video Hillary collapsing, you just think you remember that because you too, like Donna Brazile, are a dupe of Kremlin propaganda:

    First it was (Joseph) McCarthyism. Then it was (Eugene) McCarthyism. Now we’re at the level of (Jenny) McCarthyism.

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