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From the North Carolina Democratic Party Facebook page:

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Keith Lamont Scott was shot at 3:54 pm that day. Rioting in Charlotte broke out by 8pm.

From the Winston-Salem Chronicle:

Mothers of the Movement urge blacks to vote

Mothers of the Movement urge blacks to vote
September 22

by Cash Michaels

FOR THE CHRONICLE

They are members of a dreaded club they say no one wants to join. Their black children were all killed, either by a law enforcement officer, or someone with a gun. In each case, their child was an innocent victim, not only of the deed, but of the lack of justice that followed.

They are known as “The Mothers of the Movement,” and they captivated the nation last July when they walked out on stage during the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia.

Three of them – Gwen Carr, mother of Eric Garner; Maria Hamilton, mother of Dontre Hamilton; and Geneva Reed-Veal, mother of Sandra Bland – spent Monday and Tuesday of this week speaking at events in the African-American communities of Greensboro at N.C. A & T University, Durham, Charlotte and Fayetteville, sharing their pain, and urging their audiences to vote for Democrat Hillary Clinton in the November presidential election.

The Clinton campaign sponsored the mothers’ tour.

During their hour-long session at North Carolina Central University’s School of Law Monday in Durham, the mothers talked to students there about how their children were killed, how the black community must mobilize to stem the escalating tide of police killings and why they individually believed Hillary Clinton when she met with them, and promised, if elected president, that she would work to reform the criminal justice system so that police officers are held to greater accountability in incidents involving the killing of innocent citizens.

Shortly after their campaign stop in Charlotte on Tuesday at 2 pm, anti-police rioting broke out in that unfortunate city.

My column this week in Taki’s Magazine, “Hillary Held Hostage,” discusses how Mrs. Clinton has left herself a hostage to events such as BLM riots and Muslim immigrant terrorism. But her own role in egging on these disasters should not be ignored either.

 
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  1. Gwen Carr, mother of Eric Garner; Maria Hamilton, mother of Dontre Hamilton; and Geneva Reed-Veal, mother of Sandra Bland

    Yeah it’s interesting to note how the last names of the mothers don’t match up with the kids. Like Mike Brown’s mom’s last name was McSpadden. Trayvon’s mom’s last name was Fulton. I wonder if it has to due with what sociologists refer to as “multi-partner fertility”.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @anon930

    They could also have kept their names after marriage. But...given that that's more of an upper-middle-class thing, you're probably right.

    Replies: @415 reasons

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @anon930

    Given the destruction of the black family perpetrated by liberals, what can you expect?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @anonymous
    @anon930

    "Matrifocal family"

    "Serial polygamy"

    "anthropogenic r-selection"

    "temporary amazonian zone"

    "arachnid mating mimicry"

    "hyphenated surname empowerment"

    "patriarchy-free zone"

    "Great Society mating patterns"

    , @Ed
    @anon930

    I think only trayvon's parents were married at one point. I could be wrong but they at least acted like a married couple. There were pics of them going on vacations as a family unit.

    Mike Brown's mom was 16 & unmarried when she had him. He lived with various relatives and was living with his grandma in a Section 8 unit in Ferguson.

  2. White female cop Betty Shelby will find a lot of company under the bus, won’t she?

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Olorin

    Betty Shelby will consider being thrown under the bus a major upgrade to her status - but she won't be able to enjoy that status improvement.

    Betty has already been consigned, unjustly, to the deplorables basket. As a card-carrying deplorable I say "welcome, we 'deplorables' understand your plight."

    , @gda
    @Olorin

    She will most certainly be acquitted of manslaughter given the circumstances. Suspect continually disobeys police instructions, walks away to his vehicle, shrugs off a taser, continues to the vehicle and seems to reach in the back window, whereupon the female cop shoots him.

    Doesn't matter if he was just reaching for a toothpick. That was the green light as far as police procedure is concerned.

    As far as the Charlotte fiasco is concerned, Ingram is right - get the cameras out of there and everyone loses interest and goes home. If they don't, give them a final warning, then send in the gendarmes to crack a few heads. It's what Rudy would do.

    Replies: @Tim Howells, @Chris Mallory, @Olorin

  3. Nobody here can look at the bright side.

    In many countries people can’t quickly tell who is and who is not physically dangerous to them. In America, especially recently, you can.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @anony-mouse


    In many countries people can’t quickly tell who is and who is not physically dangerous to them. In America, especially recently, you can.
     
    But we can't do anything about it, except give them a genius grant.
  4. the dreaded club no one wants to join , baloney. money, fame, travel, worshipful whites, of course the kid’s gotta be killed by cops not other blacks

    • Replies: @JerryC
    @tyrone

    Well, "dreaded club no one wants to join" plays better on a Pulitzer nomination than "winners of the ghetto lottery".

    , @Cletus Rothschild
    @tyrone

    Wow. Despite how any of us feels about this movement, how can anyone claim that the loss of a son is worth whatever subsequent "rewards" one receives afterward? And this "fame" and "worship" will not last, nor will it be all that rewarding in the end.

    Replies: @Federalist, @Olorin

  5. Was this really a factor? It’s not like they needed much prompting to go on anti-white riots in Milwaukee when a black cop shot an armed black man. Or were the Mothers in town then?

  6. From the article “the escalating tide of police killings.” Oh well, even if a statistical lie or a totally false assertion, they didn’t say “tsunami” or “tidal wave.” Should we consider this real verbal restraint??

    • Replies: @guest
    @CCZ

    We can call it a mixed metaphor.

  7. It’s a paradox. If there could be such a thing as “Fathers of the Movement,” there’d be no need for a movement. Not that the MSM will admit to noticing.

    • Replies: @newrouter
    @I, Libertine

    effin' matriarchy

    , @Marie
    @I, Libertine

    I think Trayvon's dad might beg to differ - he definitely showed up in tandem with our own national pestilence Al Sharpton on a whirlwind black church tour, gleefully clutching actual trash cans full of donated cash on the pulpit (after Sharpton passed the plate around a couple extra times).

    Replies: @Ed

  8. @tyrone
    the dreaded club no one wants to join , baloney. money, fame, travel, worshipful whites, of course the kid's gotta be killed by cops not other blacks

    Replies: @JerryC, @Cletus Rothschild

    Well, “dreaded club no one wants to join” plays better on a Pulitzer nomination than “winners of the ghetto lottery”.

    • Agree: unit472
  9. Sandra Bland’s mom? If she’d had paid her daughter’s bail, Sandra wouldn’t have gone for a long dive while dressed in a short rope. Since when can the mothers of suicides claim to be victims of white racism? Well. since the liberals turned the world inside out, upside down, and rinsed it twice. But I am surprised she could pry herself free of the Lane Bryant outlet Mall where I’m sure she’s going through the millions she earned by letting her clearly insane daughter rot in the hoosegow.

    • Replies: @Mack Bolan
    @Otto the P

    I was thinking that myself. Also did she hit that ghetto lottery?

  10. Wild theory: the elites are unleashing these riots on North Carolina in retaliation for the bathroom law.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @wiseguy

    North Carolingians have taken on almost demonic significance in the half-hourly news breaks I hear on Disney's ESPN radio net. Is the state Dem party out to lunch? Or do elite leftists forget the difference between Bubba and spouse despite shared surname? Seems like an own goal. Somewhere, Carville winces.

    , @wren
    @wiseguy

    Apparently, 70% of those arrested were from out of state.

    , @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    @wiseguy

    The NC bathroom law was in response to a Charlotte ordinance, IIRC.

    Would be kind of funny if Charlotte gets punished for doing the *coughs* "right" thing.

    Another theory is that the Democrats are stirring the pot to get out the black vote. Problem for them is that while it may very well increase the black vote (reliably around 90% Democrat), idiocy like what is happening in Charlotte also galvanizes the white vote for the law and order candidate. (Trump). Trump's been compared to Andy Jackson and Teddy Roosevelt...perhaps a more apt comparison would be Richard Milhous Nixon?

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Ed

  11. The phrase “Mothers of the Movement” is just begging for a scatological send-up.

    • Replies: @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Yes!
    Like the old Campbell Soup ads with NFL players and their moms...except this time for fiber supplements.

    , @antipater_1
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I appear to have eaten something bad today. Later I had the Mother of All Movements.

    , @Camlost
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Mecklenburg County/Charlotte City leans democratic, especially in the areas where these riots are occurring.

  12. @I, Libertine
    It's a paradox. If there could be such a thing as "Fathers of the Movement," there'd be no need for a movement. Not that the MSM will admit to noticing.

    Replies: @newrouter, @Marie

    effin’ matriarchy

  13. @anon930

    Gwen Carr, mother of Eric Garner; Maria Hamilton, mother of Dontre Hamilton; and Geneva Reed-Veal, mother of Sandra Bland
     
    Yeah it's interesting to note how the last names of the mothers don't match up with the kids. Like Mike Brown's mom's last name was McSpadden. Trayvon's mom's last name was Fulton. I wonder if it has to due with what sociologists refer to as "multi-partner fertility".

    Replies: @SFG, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @anonymous, @Ed

    They could also have kept their names after marriage. But…given that that’s more of an upper-middle-class thing, you’re probably right.

    • Replies: @415 reasons
    @SFG

    Marriage, LOL

  14. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Steve, you’ve blogged before about how Trump is sort of naturally driven by personal feuding, which made him a natural and eager fit for his appearances on WWE. I think you’re right about that, and the following claim seems highly plausible to me:

    “Did Trump decide to run when Obama mocked him as a birther conspiracy theorist at White House dinner?”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3802949/Did-Trump-decide-run-Obama-mocked-birther-conspiracy-theorist-White-House-dinner.html

    ” Donald Trump ally Roger Stone suggested Trump decided to run for president after the 2011 White House Correspondents’ Dinner
    Stone, speaking in a new Frontline documentary, said Trump was ‘motivated’ by President Obama jabs during a comedy routine
    The president made fun of Trump for peddling the ‘birther’ conspiracy theory and for his job as a reality TV host
    ‘These are the kinds of decisions that keep me up at night,’ sniffed Obama, talking about which D-lister to throw off Trump’s show ‘The Apprentice’”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    I remember watching that when it happened and thinking, "Why is Donald Trump there?" and "Man, Trump looks really pissed off" as Obama gave his speech and made fun of Trump while everyone in the audience was laughing except for the stone-faced Trump.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htt91G2qDwM

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @e, @Harry Baldwin, @Prof. Woland

    , @Yep
    @Anonymous

    I've always thought Trump deciding to run had something to do with the fact that he was the only person who compelled Obama to release his birth certificate. I remember being surprised that the Obama White House took Trump so seriously considering the birther stuff had been around a few years at that point. It must've have been a big signal to Trump that liberals saw him as a real threat.

    , @Forbes
    @Anonymous

    Until the Dem party anointed him in 2004, Obama, then with two part-time jobs, hadn't even risen to the level of the D-list. Obama really makes a habit of exposing his insecurities.

  15. John McWhorter, who I generally respect, has a piece that touches on the tension blacks feel towards the police in Time: http://time.com/4504014/colin-kaepernick-kneel/.

    I am somewhat sympathetic to this in that many black people are treated with suspicion they do not deserve – but on the flipside, it’s a product of the much higher rates of criminality in that segment of America. And while being sensitive to McWhorter’s point, it ignores the fact that black criminality has a hugely destructive effect on the communities in which this problem is concentrated, and non-blacks have a legitimate interest in wanting to see this social problem suppressed as much as it can be through law enforcement.

    At the end of the day, it was a depressing read because it illustrates how different parts of the nation are just talking past each other because there is no reconciling their different viewpoints on this issue.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @neutral
    @Arclight


    illustrates how different parts of the nation are just talking past each other
     
    Its way beyond that as a problem, its not different parts of the nation not communicating, its completely different nations that happen to be on the same land.
    , @The most deplorable one
    @Arclight

    When two populations have different levels of violence (as blacks and whites do, there being far greater percentage of violent black males than there are white males) and different levels of empathy, it is very hard for the two populations to understand each other or live together.

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Arclight

    McWhorter? The same said that having a black president with a stable 2-parent family for 8 years would improve black families because they would know that that blacks really could have stable 2-parent families.

    Not to mention that McWhorter thinks Ebonics is a genuine language, because it has a consistent syntax and actual semantics for Ebonics-speaking _____ (I hesitate to fill in the blank, it may be a hate crime).

    Next up, the bleating of sheep, the mooing of cows and the grunting of pigs all qualify as human languages.

    , @Bill P
    @Arclight

    I'm sympathetic to blacks, too, because I was manhandled on a few occasions by the cops as a "youth" myself.

    The problem is that the overwhelming majority of young black men - and probably a majority of young white men - don't fit into the new urban paradigm, which is largely defined by aging, propertied white baby boomers and docile minorities. Most blacks are a poor fit for it, yet there they are.

    Young white men who don't fit in just leave the city and get a job in a majority white community where their work is valued. Take white veterans for example. How many would you find in upscale urban centers? Very few, but if you leave town and drive for about fifteen minutes they're all over.

    Blacks don't have that option for a number of reasons. One of the main reasons being that blue collar work requires certification and demonstrable literacy. Your average young black male has neither the skills nor the squeaky clean record required for decent paying non-college jobs. He's stuck in the city with no prospects and he adheres to a culture that is, if not entirely criminalized, rife with infractions at every turn.

    Blacks are getting squeezed from pretty much every direction, and as the Obama presidency proves even their political supporters don't have the will or ability to find a workable solution. They'll just propose more programs and regulations, squeezing them harder and harder thereby guaranteeing periodic outbursts of violence.

    Thomas Jefferson was right about the blacks. They need to go their own way, and we need to leave them alone and free to do so. They can't be white, and they don't want to be. I don't blame them for that.

    Replies: @unpc downunder, @Ed, @AnotherDad

    , @Yep
    @Arclight

    When of the Charlotte protesters yelled at a reporter "tell the truth!". They believe the media lies and covers up for whites the way we believe the media lies and covers up for blacks.

    , @Lurker
    @Arclight


    At the end of the day, it was a depressing read because it illustrates how different parts of the nation are just talking past each other because there is no reconciling their different viewpoints on this issue.
     
    In other words: they can't really be considered part of the same nation.
    , @anon
    @Arclight

    "...illustrates how different parts of the nation are just talking past each other because there is no reconciling their different viewpoints on this issue."

    They are not 'different parts of the nation'. They are completely different nations altogether. Nor do blacks and whites have different viewpoints on this issue, so much as on every issue. Also noteworthy is that the black rent-a-mob rioters no longer even require a "racist" white cop to start their looting, arson and hysteria.

    , @jake
    @Arclight

    You are correct: there is no possible reconciliation on a large scale on this point. For a majority of blacks, it is always tit for tat. If a cop kills an armed black man with a rap sheet 10 pages long, that means blacks by the thousands are justified in rioting, no matter how many people get dragged out of cars and beaten, no matter how much property is destroyed, no matter how many deaths occur.

    That is who they are in the core of their beings. That is their innate sense of morality. And like the most extremely violent adolescents, they always have excuses, justifications. It is always YOUR fault they had to riot.

    Liberals back in the antebellum period - who, for you permanent anti-Semites as well as lovers of all things from 'original America,' were virtually 100% WASP - made the Negro the Sacred Cow of America. The bloodlust of that Liberalism with Negro as sacred cow was not satisfied by the Civil War, which we perhaps should call The War to Establish the Sacred Cow Negro, nor by Reconstruction. It will not be satisfied by these riots. 1000 Reginald Dennys could be dragged from vehicles and beaten on the same day, and the Liberal bloodlust for the Sacred Cow Negro would not be satisfied.

    Whatever genetic propensities toward violence that blacks may have, the simple fact is that they have been worsened by the American Elites who have made the Negro the nation's first Sacred Cow. The Scared Cow knows it can destroy entire villages, a whole province, and not only will it not get butchered; it will get worshipped all the more.

    Blacks know that deep in their guts.

    , @Brutusale
    @Arclight

    Do you know any poor whites from the wrong side of the tracks?

    I worked with some in my youth during my time as a club bouncer. They all had the same distrust/dislike of cops as any Dindu. They all had experience with "The System". The essential difference is that they knew they'd get dropped like 4th period Latin if they even blinked ugly at law enforcement. Cops, black, white or other, will think twice before drawing down on a black perp. With a white, the have no compunctions at all.

    Replies: @jake, @Bill Jones

  16. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Hillary probably thinks the way Obama does about black riots. They ‘help her’ by keeping blacks riled up, and she’s hoping they’ll turn out to vote for her instead of staying home, assisted by whites rather like my boneheaded liberal relatives. My mother and father were both carrying on about how horrible the shooting of this poor black guy was, who was just minding his own business reading a book. I pointed out the cops said the guy had a gun, not a book, and that he had an extensive criminal history, but they were not willing to listen or consider the facts. Hillary knows her supporters well.

    Hillary wants Trayvon II all over the media to pick up her sagging poll numbers. Trying to terrorize your way into the White House is an unusual step, but then Hillary is Livia Drusilla all over. She’s a figure right out of ancient Rome at its most corrupt.

    At least when Lyndon Johnson bombed people and failed to win in Vietnam, he had enough grace to decide not to run for the presidency again because he thought that made him unelectable. Even though Hillary has dropped bombs all over the Middle East and screwed up a whole long string of governments, leaving us with scarcely an ally over there, she does not think that way.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Anon

    "My mother and father were both carrying on about how horrible the shooting of this poor black guy was, who was just minding his own business reading a book."

    Not many Dindu thugs read books. How many ghetto looking Negroes do you see at your local Barnes & Noble?

    , @Jefferson
    @Anon

    '“My mother and father were both carrying on about how horrible the shooting of this poor black guy was, who was just minding his own business reading a book.”

    Not many Dindu thugs read books. How many ghetto looking Negroes do you see at your local Barnes & Noble?

    The safest place to be during a Negro riot is at a Barnes & Noble. The most dangerous place to be is at a Foot Locker, a gold chain store, or a KFC.

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Anon

    Failure really does not limit Democrats from seeking, and attaining, higher office. You just need the right positions and all is forgiven. And the best part is that you do not have to deliver on any of your promises!

    , @Steve from Detroit
    @Anon

    The first part of your comment was spot on, and I especially sympathize with your having "boneheaded liberal relatives." Outside of my immediate family, my relatives could out-liberal the ACLU. The second part of your comment on Hillary having no shame about her past abject failures is also spot on, and it works not only for all Democrats but even many Republicans.

    I, however, implore you to reconsider the analogy with LBJ. Describing LBJ as having "enough grace" strikes me as borderline farcical. He exhibited the antithesis of grace or class. There was so much dirt on him, he knew he would never make it through another term.

  17. Many of the rioters believe that the cop who shot the man is white. No doubt had the police officer been white, we would hear the oft-repeated statement we’ve become so accustomed to hearing: “a white police officer shot a black man.” Not that the facts matter much to the rent a mob crowd anyway. According to one legal expert (forgot who) being interviewed on CNN, as many as 70 percent of the people arrested have been from out of state.

    • Replies: @jack ryan
    @Perspective

    Do any of these out of state rioters who arrested, do they ever get prosecuted?

    The Antifa, BLM folks pretty much get away with anything in and around Chicago

    , @Forbes
    @Perspective

    To the ghetto crowds and rioters, the race of the cop who did the shooting doesn't matter--or make a difference. All cops are blue, and form the occupying, oppositional army (or the biggest gang in the 'hood). The race/ethnicity of the cop is a distinction without a difference (just ask any black cop working in the inner city).

    Replies: @Jefferson

  18. National Activists Fly In As Charlotte Police Protests Continue

    By Ann Doss Helms
    [email protected]
    September 22, 2016

    Leaders of protests in Ferguson, Baltimore and Baton Rouge were flying into Charlotte Thursday as a third day of action against police violence loomed.

    Leaders of some of those protests, such as Michael McBride, a California minister who leads the Live Free campaign against mass incarceration, and Traci Blackmon, an organizer of the Black Lives Matter movement in Ferguson, Mo., traveled to Charlotte.

    Corine Mack, president of the Charlotte-Mecklenburg NAACP branch, said Thursday that Charlotte-Mecklenburg police, including Chief Kerr Putney, have worked with local groups to build the kind of relationships that could improve treatment of African-Americans and build trust.

    But she and other leaders said the department’s rush to depict Keith Lamont Scott, who was shot to death Tuesday by an officer, as a gunman eroded that progress. So, they said, did the city’s rush to say that the man shot Wednesday was the victim of another protester, even though little was clear through Thursday about what had happened.

    I guess the moral is, if you offend tender sensibilities (or commit those evil racist micro-aggressions), you get riots and looting.

    • Replies: @TangoMan
    @CCZ

    National Activists Fly In As Charlotte Police Protests Continue

    What kind of job is "national activist?" I recall Governor Palin making light of Obama's job as a community organizer and wondering what kind of job that was.

    But she and other leaders said the department’s rush

    Leaders. This brings to mind the GOP elite - an organization of generals leading an army with no voters behind them. Why are these leaders flying in when their "troops" are stuck back at home base? Could it be that there's money floating around and they're trying to tap into the money stream?

    There is not enough attention and common understanding on how these movements are financed and how these leaders and activists make a living.

  19. It’s a coincidence that they spoke 1:54 before he was shot. Not good timing, though.

  20. Anonymous [AKA "Hhsii"] says:

    I hate to say this is a feature, not a bug. They know this is more likely to excite the dem base for than the trump voters against. The trump voters are already aware.

  21. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Geneva Reed-Veal, mother of Sandra Bland

    Wait a minute. Sandra Bland wasn’t killed by a cop, or by someone with a gun. She was killed by Sandra Bland, with a garbage bag.

    It’s not like I would expect a journalist to do basic fact-checking, but are they really still trying to sneak her in?

  22. We know what happens when riots like this happen during a competitive election campaign, we have the Nixon-Humphrey 1968 election.

    I’ll have to hand it to my parents’ and grandparents’ generations, I think both the original Nixon and the late 60’s new left are better than the new ones.

    The two symbols of my generation’s decadence is that Nixon and Humphrey were distinguished war veterans from middle class backgrounds (as were Ike, McGovern, Carter, Dole) while Hillary sits on a tawdry $100 million fortune but looks like a bum compared to Trump’s inherited/scammed fortune.

    • Replies: @Broski
    @Lot


    The two symbols of my generation’s decadence is that Nixon and Humphrey were distinguished war veterans from middle class backgrounds (as were Ike, McGovern, Carter, Dole) while Hillary sits on a tawdry $100 million fortune but looks like a bum compared to Trump’s inherited/scammed fortune.

     

    LOL! That must bother Hillary. She's worked like a dog for 16 years to enrich herself and a hilariously straightforward ethnic guy who's much richer shows up and steals the show. Imagine Trump as Dangerfield in Caddy Shack. Except he's a WASP.
    , @The Man From K Street
    @Lot


    The two symbols of my generation’s decadence is that Nixon and Humphrey were distinguished war veterans from middle class backgrounds
     
    Actually Humphrey stayed a civilian throughout World War II--he was 4-F. Amazing isn't it--there were something like 20 million WW2 vets who voted in that election, 50 million if you count spouses and children, and hardly anybody raised a stink about "chickenhawks" or "where was Hubert?".
  23. Stay fetal, Charlotte.

    • Agree: Marie
  24. @Arclight
    John McWhorter, who I generally respect, has a piece that touches on the tension blacks feel towards the police in Time: http://time.com/4504014/colin-kaepernick-kneel/.

    I am somewhat sympathetic to this in that many black people are treated with suspicion they do not deserve - but on the flipside, it's a product of the much higher rates of criminality in that segment of America. And while being sensitive to McWhorter's point, it ignores the fact that black criminality has a hugely destructive effect on the communities in which this problem is concentrated, and non-blacks have a legitimate interest in wanting to see this social problem suppressed as much as it can be through law enforcement.

    At the end of the day, it was a depressing read because it illustrates how different parts of the nation are just talking past each other because there is no reconciling their different viewpoints on this issue.

    Replies: @neutral, @The most deplorable one, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Bill P, @Yep, @Lurker, @anon, @jake, @Brutusale

    illustrates how different parts of the nation are just talking past each other

    Its way beyond that as a problem, its not different parts of the nation not communicating, its completely different nations that happen to be on the same land.

    • Agree: IA
  25. @Lot
    We know what happens when riots like this happen during a competitive election campaign, we have the Nixon-Humphrey 1968 election.

    I'll have to hand it to my parents' and grandparents' generations, I think both the original Nixon and the late 60's new left are better than the new ones.

    The two symbols of my generation's decadence is that Nixon and Humphrey were distinguished war veterans from middle class backgrounds (as were Ike, McGovern, Carter, Dole) while Hillary sits on a tawdry $100 million fortune but looks like a bum compared to Trump's inherited/scammed fortune.

    Replies: @Broski, @The Man From K Street

    The two symbols of my generation’s decadence is that Nixon and Humphrey were distinguished war veterans from middle class backgrounds (as were Ike, McGovern, Carter, Dole) while Hillary sits on a tawdry $100 million fortune but looks like a bum compared to Trump’s inherited/scammed fortune.

    LOL! That must bother Hillary. She’s worked like a dog for 16 years to enrich herself and a hilariously straightforward ethnic guy who’s much richer shows up and steals the show. Imagine Trump as Dangerfield in Caddy Shack. Except he’s a WASP.

  26. Your Trump-punk rock analogy got you a namecheck in Douthat’s column the other day. Did you catch this comment by one Don B in NYC?

    [It] appears to me that the NYT has crossed a moral rubicon that I find very disturbing. “Mr. Douthat writes, “The alt-right-ish columnist xxxxx xxxxx made the punk rock analogy as well.” I used x’s because I, unlike Mr. Douthat, will not give any oxygen to the name of an “alt-right-ish” writer. I’m wondering how an alt-right, (which means white supremacist, racist, anti-Semitic), -ish writer earns the right to be quoted by a NYT columnist.

    Lord Voldemort status of evil. He Who Must Not Be Named. You could troll this guy and the NYT by responding, I can’t breathe.

    • Replies: @anon
    @AnotherGuessModel

    “Mr. Douthat writes, “The alt-right-ish columnist xxxxx xxxxx made the punk rock analogy as well.” I used x’s because I, unlike Mr. Douthat, will not give any oxygen to the name of an “alt-right-ish” writer.

    Not THAT is how you signal, ladies and gentlemen!

    Go out of your way to point out a quote from an article that contains the name that you pointedly refuse to say, all to highlight how much better you are for refusing to draw attention to it.

    It's like a work of art, if you think about it.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @AnotherGuessModel

    (which means white supremacist, racist, anti-Semitic)

    I thought if you were tarred as a "white supremacist," the "racist" was assumed. Also, where's "sexist, homophobe, and Islamaphobe"? I believe it's a complete package, not a "pick one from column A, two from column B" kinda deal.

    Replies: @Forbes

    , @Anonymous
    @AnotherGuessModel

    Steve, you've made it!

  27. Mothers of the Bowel Movement.

  28. @Arclight
    John McWhorter, who I generally respect, has a piece that touches on the tension blacks feel towards the police in Time: http://time.com/4504014/colin-kaepernick-kneel/.

    I am somewhat sympathetic to this in that many black people are treated with suspicion they do not deserve - but on the flipside, it's a product of the much higher rates of criminality in that segment of America. And while being sensitive to McWhorter's point, it ignores the fact that black criminality has a hugely destructive effect on the communities in which this problem is concentrated, and non-blacks have a legitimate interest in wanting to see this social problem suppressed as much as it can be through law enforcement.

    At the end of the day, it was a depressing read because it illustrates how different parts of the nation are just talking past each other because there is no reconciling their different viewpoints on this issue.

    Replies: @neutral, @The most deplorable one, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Bill P, @Yep, @Lurker, @anon, @jake, @Brutusale

    When two populations have different levels of violence (as blacks and whites do, there being far greater percentage of violent black males than there are white males) and different levels of empathy, it is very hard for the two populations to understand each other or live together.

  29. The mainstream left, with Hillary bordering on center-left, are now in favor of engaging in drawn out and exquisite scrutiny of every single officer-involved shooting with a black man in this large country, with the explicit goal of smearing the police and stopping the good policies that has lead to huge reductions in crime since the mid-70’s to early 90’s peak.

    That’s how the left loses in American politics.

    Ross’s Steve Sailer-naming NYT’s column does good work capturing how the Democrats are flirting with a self-inflicted loss this election, and how they did it once before in the Nixon-Reagan era:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/21/opinion/campaign-stops/clintons-samantha-bee-problem.html

    This spirit of political-cultural rebellion is obviously crucial to Trump’s act. As James Parker wrote in The Atlantic, he’s occupying “a space in American politics that is uniquely transgressive, volatile, carnivalesque, and (from a certain angle) punk rock.” (The alt-right-ish columnist Steve Sailer made the punk rock analogy as well.)

    Ross not only winked over at us, but also at too at those of us who make the effort to know and understand the history of Western Europe.

    Trump’s extremism also limits his appeal, of course. But if liberals are fortunate to be facing a Johnny Rotten figure in this presidential campaign, they are still having real trouble putting him away … and if he were somewhat less volatile and bigoted and gross, liberalism would be poised to close its era of cultural ascendance by watching all three branches of government pass back into conservative hands.

    Something like this happened once before: In the 1960s and 1970s, the culture shifted decisively leftward, but American voters shifted to the right and answered a cultural revolution with a political Thermidor.

    That Nixon-Reagan rightward shift did not repeal the 1960s or push the counterculture back to a beatnik-hippie fringe. But it did leave liberalism in a curious place throughout the 1980s: atop the commanding heights of culture yet often impotent in Washington, D.C.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermidorian_Reaction

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Lot

    "The alt-right-ish columnist Steve Sailer made the punk rock analogy as well."

    Way wait. Ross is putting Steve in the alt-right camp? Really? I never knew whether Steve accepted that designation, or whether he would decline being included in the alt-right in any official capacity. Sometimes various groups like HBD; Milo; Breitbart; etc. blend together and can appear to be an official part of the alt-right, but its very confusing as to which groups are part of the alt-right and which ones are technically not a part.

    I have a feeling that both Jared Taylor and Richard Spencer would very much like Steve to have a more official part of their grouping, but who knows if he would accept their offer? Side note, I'm puzzled sometimes as to why Mr. Taylor hasn't invited Steve to speak at his American Renaissance conferences.

    I suppose one could always just ask him whether Douthat's inclusion of him with the alt-right is accurate from his perspective.

    Replies: @Lot

    , @Jason Liu
    @Lot

    Right, it's going to take a lot more than a Thermidor to defeat the left. Reaction is not enough, ideological revolution is needed. The right needs to not just hold power, but also undermine the legitimacy of leftist ideas over the long run.

    Replies: @Anoni, @Almost Missouri

  30. @anon930

    Gwen Carr, mother of Eric Garner; Maria Hamilton, mother of Dontre Hamilton; and Geneva Reed-Veal, mother of Sandra Bland
     
    Yeah it's interesting to note how the last names of the mothers don't match up with the kids. Like Mike Brown's mom's last name was McSpadden. Trayvon's mom's last name was Fulton. I wonder if it has to due with what sociologists refer to as "multi-partner fertility".

    Replies: @SFG, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @anonymous, @Ed

    Given the destruction of the black family perpetrated by liberals, what can you expect?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    I'm glad you said "perpetrated". It's about time we recognized the truth-- the collapse of social structure in the ghetto was brought about on purpose. Fools on the right ask, "Didn't they read the Moynihan Report?" Damn right they did-- and followed the script perfectly! (Except for the part about "don't".)

    On the other hand, evil people who deatroy families for political gain don't deserve the term "liberal". Something more sinister is befitting. Like "progressive".

  31. @Anonymous
    Steve, you've blogged before about how Trump is sort of naturally driven by personal feuding, which made him a natural and eager fit for his appearances on WWE. I think you're right about that, and the following claim seems highly plausible to me:

    "Did Trump decide to run when Obama mocked him as a birther conspiracy theorist at White House dinner?"

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3802949/Did-Trump-decide-run-Obama-mocked-birther-conspiracy-theorist-White-House-dinner.html

    " Donald Trump ally Roger Stone suggested Trump decided to run for president after the 2011 White House Correspondents' Dinner
    Stone, speaking in a new Frontline documentary, said Trump was 'motivated' by President Obama jabs during a comedy routine
    The president made fun of Trump for peddling the 'birther' conspiracy theory and for his job as a reality TV host
    'These are the kinds of decisions that keep me up at night,' sniffed Obama, talking about which D-lister to throw off Trump's show 'The Apprentice'"

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Yep, @Forbes

    I remember watching that when it happened and thinking, “Why is Donald Trump there?” and “Man, Trump looks really pissed off” as Obama gave his speech and made fun of Trump while everyone in the audience was laughing except for the stone-faced Trump.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Anonymous

    There's a body of evidence that Rommel being denied the Pour Le Merite drove everything else he ever did after that.

    People respond in different ways to perceived slights. Some disregard high command and take their tank division to go fight the whole French Army piece by piece. Others run for President so they can try to save America.

    Replies: @guest, @reiner Tor

    , @e
    @Anonymous

    Initially, I thought the same thing, but Trump is no fool: he knew Obama was going to take shots at him and that he'd just have to sit there and take it, which he did.

    He has balls of stone.

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Anonymous

    Donald is going to LOVE having Obama hand the keys to the White House over to him. I'm sure he'll get a little dig in, something like, "Hey, now that I'm president, I'm going to have the CIA locate your actual birth certificate and academic records. I'm really looking forward to reading them."

    Replies: @wren, @Intelligent Dasein, @Mr. Anon, @Forbes

    , @Prof. Woland
    @Anonymous

    If Donald Trump becomes President he will sit on top of the largest information gathering organization in the world. I have no doubt that either all at once or little by little, Obama's past, which he has spent so much time and resources hiding will get leaked out much to his ever lasting shame. Someday, it will probably be proven that BHO got over promoted just about every step of the way due to affirmative action. It also might be proven that he never registered for selective service and that he wrote all types of atrocious radical dreck in college.

    Obama's birth certificate was just a cap stone or cover story to hide his past. I have heard one long forgotten blogger who I wish I could name refer to it as a McGuffen. When David Axelrod hid Obama's school transcripts, selective service records, medical records, Baptismal records, etc., he used the birth certificate as a poison pill or passive aggressive boobie trap to blow up whoever tried to uncover his past. After all, any one who is interested just cannot accept the legitimacy of the first African American President.

    The only thing more enjoyable than watching President Trump rub Obama's nose in the proverbial cow pie will be watching Obama's supporters gasp when he does it.

    Replies: @27 year old, @melendwyr

  32. @Olorin
    White female cop Betty Shelby will find a lot of company under the bus, won't she?

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @gda

    Betty Shelby will consider being thrown under the bus a major upgrade to her status – but she won’t be able to enjoy that status improvement.

    Betty has already been consigned, unjustly, to the deplorables basket. As a card-carrying deplorable I say “welcome, we ‘deplorables’ understand your plight.”

  33. Anonymous [AKA "33rd degree transilluminatilizard"] says:
    @wiseguy
    Wild theory: the elites are unleashing these riots on North Carolina in retaliation for the bathroom law.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @wren, @TontoBubbaGoldstein

    North Carolingians have taken on almost demonic significance in the half-hourly news breaks I hear on Disney’s ESPN radio net. Is the state Dem party out to lunch? Or do elite leftists forget the difference between Bubba and spouse despite shared surname? Seems like an own goal. Somewhere, Carville winces.

  34. Jack Hanson says:
    @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    I remember watching that when it happened and thinking, "Why is Donald Trump there?" and "Man, Trump looks really pissed off" as Obama gave his speech and made fun of Trump while everyone in the audience was laughing except for the stone-faced Trump.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htt91G2qDwM

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @e, @Harry Baldwin, @Prof. Woland

    There’s a body of evidence that Rommel being denied the Pour Le Merite drove everything else he ever did after that.

    People respond in different ways to perceived slights. Some disregard high command and take their tank division to go fight the whole French Army piece by piece. Others run for President so they can try to save America.

    • Replies: @guest
    @Jack Hanson

    That reminds me of Iago in Othello.

    , @reiner Tor
    @Jack Hanson

    But he did get the Pour le Mérite.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

  35. @Anon
    Hillary probably thinks the way Obama does about black riots. They 'help her' by keeping blacks riled up, and she's hoping they'll turn out to vote for her instead of staying home, assisted by whites rather like my boneheaded liberal relatives. My mother and father were both carrying on about how horrible the shooting of this poor black guy was, who was just minding his own business reading a book. I pointed out the cops said the guy had a gun, not a book, and that he had an extensive criminal history, but they were not willing to listen or consider the facts. Hillary knows her supporters well.

    Hillary wants Trayvon II all over the media to pick up her sagging poll numbers. Trying to terrorize your way into the White House is an unusual step, but then Hillary is Livia Drusilla all over. She's a figure right out of ancient Rome at its most corrupt.

    At least when Lyndon Johnson bombed people and failed to win in Vietnam, he had enough grace to decide not to run for the presidency again because he thought that made him unelectable. Even though Hillary has dropped bombs all over the Middle East and screwed up a whole long string of governments, leaving us with scarcely an ally over there, she does not think that way.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Jefferson, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Steve from Detroit

    “My mother and father were both carrying on about how horrible the shooting of this poor black guy was, who was just minding his own business reading a book.”

    Not many Dindu thugs read books. How many ghetto looking Negroes do you see at your local Barnes & Noble?

  36. @Arclight
    John McWhorter, who I generally respect, has a piece that touches on the tension blacks feel towards the police in Time: http://time.com/4504014/colin-kaepernick-kneel/.

    I am somewhat sympathetic to this in that many black people are treated with suspicion they do not deserve - but on the flipside, it's a product of the much higher rates of criminality in that segment of America. And while being sensitive to McWhorter's point, it ignores the fact that black criminality has a hugely destructive effect on the communities in which this problem is concentrated, and non-blacks have a legitimate interest in wanting to see this social problem suppressed as much as it can be through law enforcement.

    At the end of the day, it was a depressing read because it illustrates how different parts of the nation are just talking past each other because there is no reconciling their different viewpoints on this issue.

    Replies: @neutral, @The most deplorable one, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Bill P, @Yep, @Lurker, @anon, @jake, @Brutusale

    McWhorter? The same said that having a black president with a stable 2-parent family for 8 years would improve black families because they would know that that blacks really could have stable 2-parent families.

    Not to mention that McWhorter thinks Ebonics is a genuine language, because it has a consistent syntax and actual semantics for Ebonics-speaking _____ (I hesitate to fill in the blank, it may be a hate crime).

    Next up, the bleating of sheep, the mooing of cows and the grunting of pigs all qualify as human languages.

  37. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherGuessModel
    Your Trump-punk rock analogy got you a namecheck in Douthat's column the other day. Did you catch this comment by one Don B in NYC?

    [It] appears to me that the NYT has crossed a moral rubicon that I find very disturbing. "Mr. Douthat writes, "The alt-right-ish columnist xxxxx xxxxx made the punk rock analogy as well." I used x's because I, unlike Mr. Douthat, will not give any oxygen to the name of an "alt-right-ish" writer. I'm wondering how an alt-right, (which means white supremacist, racist, anti-Semitic), -ish writer earns the right to be quoted by a NYT columnist.

    Lord Voldemort status of evil. He Who Must Not Be Named. You could troll this guy and the NYT by responding, I can't breathe.

    Replies: @anon, @Harry Baldwin, @Anonymous

    “Mr. Douthat writes, “The alt-right-ish columnist xxxxx xxxxx made the punk rock analogy as well.” I used x’s because I, unlike Mr. Douthat, will not give any oxygen to the name of an “alt-right-ish” writer.

    Not THAT is how you signal, ladies and gentlemen!

    Go out of your way to point out a quote from an article that contains the name that you pointedly refuse to say, all to highlight how much better you are for refusing to draw attention to it.

    It’s like a work of art, if you think about it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @anon

    Insightful and delightful comment. Thanks.

  38. @Anon
    Hillary probably thinks the way Obama does about black riots. They 'help her' by keeping blacks riled up, and she's hoping they'll turn out to vote for her instead of staying home, assisted by whites rather like my boneheaded liberal relatives. My mother and father were both carrying on about how horrible the shooting of this poor black guy was, who was just minding his own business reading a book. I pointed out the cops said the guy had a gun, not a book, and that he had an extensive criminal history, but they were not willing to listen or consider the facts. Hillary knows her supporters well.

    Hillary wants Trayvon II all over the media to pick up her sagging poll numbers. Trying to terrorize your way into the White House is an unusual step, but then Hillary is Livia Drusilla all over. She's a figure right out of ancient Rome at its most corrupt.

    At least when Lyndon Johnson bombed people and failed to win in Vietnam, he had enough grace to decide not to run for the presidency again because he thought that made him unelectable. Even though Hillary has dropped bombs all over the Middle East and screwed up a whole long string of governments, leaving us with scarcely an ally over there, she does not think that way.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Jefferson, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Steve from Detroit

    ‘“My mother and father were both carrying on about how horrible the shooting of this poor black guy was, who was just minding his own business reading a book.”

    Not many Dindu thugs read books. How many ghetto looking Negroes do you see at your local Barnes & Noble?

    The safest place to be during a Negro riot is at a Barnes & Noble. The most dangerous place to be is at a Foot Locker, a gold chain store, or a KFC.

  39. @Anon
    Hillary probably thinks the way Obama does about black riots. They 'help her' by keeping blacks riled up, and she's hoping they'll turn out to vote for her instead of staying home, assisted by whites rather like my boneheaded liberal relatives. My mother and father were both carrying on about how horrible the shooting of this poor black guy was, who was just minding his own business reading a book. I pointed out the cops said the guy had a gun, not a book, and that he had an extensive criminal history, but they were not willing to listen or consider the facts. Hillary knows her supporters well.

    Hillary wants Trayvon II all over the media to pick up her sagging poll numbers. Trying to terrorize your way into the White House is an unusual step, but then Hillary is Livia Drusilla all over. She's a figure right out of ancient Rome at its most corrupt.

    At least when Lyndon Johnson bombed people and failed to win in Vietnam, he had enough grace to decide not to run for the presidency again because he thought that made him unelectable. Even though Hillary has dropped bombs all over the Middle East and screwed up a whole long string of governments, leaving us with scarcely an ally over there, she does not think that way.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Jefferson, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Steve from Detroit

    Failure really does not limit Democrats from seeking, and attaining, higher office. You just need the right positions and all is forgiven. And the best part is that you do not have to deliver on any of your promises!

  40. @wiseguy
    Wild theory: the elites are unleashing these riots on North Carolina in retaliation for the bathroom law.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @wren, @TontoBubbaGoldstein

    Apparently, 70% of those arrested were from out of state.

  41. @CCZ
    From the article "the escalating tide of police killings." Oh well, even if a statistical lie or a totally false assertion, they didn't say "tsunami" or "tidal wave." Should we consider this real verbal restraint??

    Replies: @guest

    We can call it a mixed metaphor.

  42. @Jack Hanson
    @Anonymous

    There's a body of evidence that Rommel being denied the Pour Le Merite drove everything else he ever did after that.

    People respond in different ways to perceived slights. Some disregard high command and take their tank division to go fight the whole French Army piece by piece. Others run for President so they can try to save America.

    Replies: @guest, @reiner Tor

    That reminds me of Iago in Othello.

  43. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    I remember watching that when it happened and thinking, "Why is Donald Trump there?" and "Man, Trump looks really pissed off" as Obama gave his speech and made fun of Trump while everyone in the audience was laughing except for the stone-faced Trump.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htt91G2qDwM

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @e, @Harry Baldwin, @Prof. Woland

    Initially, I thought the same thing, but Trump is no fool: he knew Obama was going to take shots at him and that he’d just have to sit there and take it, which he did.

    He has balls of stone.

    • Agree: sayless
  44. @AnotherGuessModel
    Your Trump-punk rock analogy got you a namecheck in Douthat's column the other day. Did you catch this comment by one Don B in NYC?

    [It] appears to me that the NYT has crossed a moral rubicon that I find very disturbing. "Mr. Douthat writes, "The alt-right-ish columnist xxxxx xxxxx made the punk rock analogy as well." I used x's because I, unlike Mr. Douthat, will not give any oxygen to the name of an "alt-right-ish" writer. I'm wondering how an alt-right, (which means white supremacist, racist, anti-Semitic), -ish writer earns the right to be quoted by a NYT columnist.

    Lord Voldemort status of evil. He Who Must Not Be Named. You could troll this guy and the NYT by responding, I can't breathe.

    Replies: @anon, @Harry Baldwin, @Anonymous

    (which means white supremacist, racist, anti-Semitic)

    I thought if you were tarred as a “white supremacist,” the “racist” was assumed. Also, where’s “sexist, homophobe, and Islamaphobe”? I believe it’s a complete package, not a “pick one from column A, two from column B” kinda deal.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Harry Baldwin

    I usually endorse the whole panoply of deplorables when the subject comes up. No sense leaving anything off your curriculum vitae.

  45. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    I remember watching that when it happened and thinking, "Why is Donald Trump there?" and "Man, Trump looks really pissed off" as Obama gave his speech and made fun of Trump while everyone in the audience was laughing except for the stone-faced Trump.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htt91G2qDwM

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @e, @Harry Baldwin, @Prof. Woland

    Donald is going to LOVE having Obama hand the keys to the White House over to him. I’m sure he’ll get a little dig in, something like, “Hey, now that I’m president, I’m going to have the CIA locate your actual birth certificate and academic records. I’m really looking forward to reading them.”

    • Replies: @wren
    @Harry Baldwin

    We all wish, but I am sure that Obama and the current CIA director Brennan (appointed by Obama) have already made sure that is not possible.

    This is doubly likely, considering that before Obama appointed him, his company accessed and may have altered Obama's passport files, paving Obama's path to the white house in the first place.

    The rabbit hole gets really funky when you read all the theories claiming that Brennan is a closet Muslim.

    Who the heck knows anymore? He speaks Arabic and lived in many Islamic countries for a long time, so it is not completely crazy...

    CIA chief in Saudi Arabia.

    http://youtu.be/7VQbAhqHoAo

    Replies: @wren, @Marie

    , @Intelligent Dasein
    @Harry Baldwin


    Donald is going to LOVE having Obama hand the keys to the White House over to him.
     
    Trump is going to need a proverbial Dr. Kynes to be Judge of the Change and a Thufir Hawat to clean out all the sabotage devices.
    , @Mr. Anon
    @Harry Baldwin

    When Pat Buchanan was running for President in 2000 I think it was (a hopeless cluster of a third-party campaign) he said the first thing he would do upon taking his oath of office would be to turn to his predecessor and say "You have the right to remain silent, you have the right to an attorney,..................."

    , @Forbes
    @Harry Baldwin

    I actually imagine Trump will feign complete indifference towards Obama, while Trump's fingerprints remain absent from any paper trail of disclosure about Obama. We've become so accustomed to Obama blaming Bush for everything adverse under the sun that we can't imagine another president doing otherwise.

    I can see Trump doing it the Francis Urquhart way (original "House of Cards"): "You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment."

  46. @Arclight
    John McWhorter, who I generally respect, has a piece that touches on the tension blacks feel towards the police in Time: http://time.com/4504014/colin-kaepernick-kneel/.

    I am somewhat sympathetic to this in that many black people are treated with suspicion they do not deserve - but on the flipside, it's a product of the much higher rates of criminality in that segment of America. And while being sensitive to McWhorter's point, it ignores the fact that black criminality has a hugely destructive effect on the communities in which this problem is concentrated, and non-blacks have a legitimate interest in wanting to see this social problem suppressed as much as it can be through law enforcement.

    At the end of the day, it was a depressing read because it illustrates how different parts of the nation are just talking past each other because there is no reconciling their different viewpoints on this issue.

    Replies: @neutral, @The most deplorable one, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Bill P, @Yep, @Lurker, @anon, @jake, @Brutusale

    I’m sympathetic to blacks, too, because I was manhandled on a few occasions by the cops as a “youth” myself.

    The problem is that the overwhelming majority of young black men – and probably a majority of young white men – don’t fit into the new urban paradigm, which is largely defined by aging, propertied white baby boomers and docile minorities. Most blacks are a poor fit for it, yet there they are.

    Young white men who don’t fit in just leave the city and get a job in a majority white community where their work is valued. Take white veterans for example. How many would you find in upscale urban centers? Very few, but if you leave town and drive for about fifteen minutes they’re all over.

    Blacks don’t have that option for a number of reasons. One of the main reasons being that blue collar work requires certification and demonstrable literacy. Your average young black male has neither the skills nor the squeaky clean record required for decent paying non-college jobs. He’s stuck in the city with no prospects and he adheres to a culture that is, if not entirely criminalized, rife with infractions at every turn.

    Blacks are getting squeezed from pretty much every direction, and as the Obama presidency proves even their political supporters don’t have the will or ability to find a workable solution. They’ll just propose more programs and regulations, squeezing them harder and harder thereby guaranteeing periodic outbursts of violence.

    Thomas Jefferson was right about the blacks. They need to go their own way, and we need to leave them alone and free to do so. They can’t be white, and they don’t want to be. I don’t blame them for that.

    • Replies: @unpc downunder
    @Bill P

    "Your average young black male has neither the skills nor the squeaky clean record required for decent paying non-college jobs."

    A lot of low skilled jobs now require having a well documented work history. For example, its hard to get work as an airport baggage handler an inner city security guard without good references, even though the work itself isn't very demanding in terms or skills or IQ.

    Replies: @guest

    , @Ed
    @Bill P

    The best suggestion I've heard in the last ten years to address this problem was from a Buffalo area Republican congressman. He said that the unemployed black men in buffalo should be setup to work in area fields at a decent wage $15 an hour I believe. That's probably ambitious. At any rate he was denounced as racist and walked it back.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Joe Schmoe

    , @AnotherDad
    @Bill P

    Good comment Bill.


    Blacks don’t have that option for a number of reasons. One of the main reasons being that blue collar work requires certification and demonstrable literacy.
     
    The main reason is certainly their long evolutionary history in tropical Africa and the average set of mental traits that's the evolutionary product of that.

    However, there are two correctable problems:

    1) Mass low-skill immigration which has brought essentially an unlimited supply of higher quality low skilled labor into competition with blacks.

    and

    2) The normalization and promotion of black non-compliance--with white norms, with any authority, heck with anyone--as authentically "black" and "keeping it real". Essentially promoting their own separateness from white\mainstream society.

    Both of these things were significantly better and hence the prospects of blacks to "integrate" actually looked significantly better back when i was a pup--the bad old days of say 1960--then they are now. And both those things are highly promoted by the "left", the Democratic party.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  47. @Intelligent Dasein
    The phrase "Mothers of the Movement" is just begging for a scatological send-up.

    Replies: @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @antipater_1, @Camlost

    Yes!
    Like the old Campbell Soup ads with NFL players and their moms…except this time for fiber supplements.

  48. Clinton will win a landslide.

    Trumps supporters consist of fools who think there is racism against whites and that blacks don’t face racism

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Tiny Duck

    Stronger Together

    , @Louis Renault
    @Tiny Duck


    Clinton will win a landslide.
     
    It doesnt matter how many people vote, only who counts them.”

    ― Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin
  49. @Harry Baldwin
    @Anonymous

    Donald is going to LOVE having Obama hand the keys to the White House over to him. I'm sure he'll get a little dig in, something like, "Hey, now that I'm president, I'm going to have the CIA locate your actual birth certificate and academic records. I'm really looking forward to reading them."

    Replies: @wren, @Intelligent Dasein, @Mr. Anon, @Forbes

    We all wish, but I am sure that Obama and the current CIA director Brennan (appointed by Obama) have already made sure that is not possible.

    This is doubly likely, considering that before Obama appointed him, his company accessed and may have altered Obama’s passport files, paving Obama’s path to the white house in the first place.

    The rabbit hole gets really funky when you read all the theories claiming that Brennan is a closet Muslim.

    Who the heck knows anymore? He speaks Arabic and lived in many Islamic countries for a long time, so it is not completely crazy…

    CIA chief in Saudi Arabia.

    http://youtu.be/7VQbAhqHoAo

    • Replies: @wren
    @wren

    Hey, notice how our current CIA director referred to Palestine a few times in discussing all the Islamic countries he has known and loved?

    Curiouser and curiouser.

    Now I read that he voted for the Communist party candidate for president in the 70's!

    Haha!

    http://www.infowars.com/cia-director-brennan-admits-voting-for-communist-party-in-1976/

    BTW, he admitted that while talking at a panel promoting more diversity in the CIA.

    , @Marie
    @wren

    John Brennan, the ultimate quisling dhimmi.

    He just told the Congressional Black Caucus that he voted for the Communist Party ticket in '76 - thus I have no doubt the transition from Marx to Muhammad would've been all that hard for him (see: Muslim convert Carlos the Jackal)

  50. @anon930

    Gwen Carr, mother of Eric Garner; Maria Hamilton, mother of Dontre Hamilton; and Geneva Reed-Veal, mother of Sandra Bland
     
    Yeah it's interesting to note how the last names of the mothers don't match up with the kids. Like Mike Brown's mom's last name was McSpadden. Trayvon's mom's last name was Fulton. I wonder if it has to due with what sociologists refer to as "multi-partner fertility".

    Replies: @SFG, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @anonymous, @Ed

    “Matrifocal family”

    “Serial polygamy”

    “anthropogenic r-selection”

    “temporary amazonian zone”

    “arachnid mating mimicry”

    “hyphenated surname empowerment”

    “patriarchy-free zone”

    “Great Society mating patterns”

  51. @wiseguy
    Wild theory: the elites are unleashing these riots on North Carolina in retaliation for the bathroom law.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @wren, @TontoBubbaGoldstein

    The NC bathroom law was in response to a Charlotte ordinance, IIRC.

    Would be kind of funny if Charlotte gets punished for doing the *coughs* “right” thing.

    Another theory is that the Democrats are stirring the pot to get out the black vote. Problem for them is that while it may very well increase the black vote (reliably around 90% Democrat), idiocy like what is happening in Charlotte also galvanizes the white vote for the law and order candidate. (Trump). Trump’s been compared to Andy Jackson and Teddy Roosevelt…perhaps a more apt comparison would be Richard Milhous Nixon?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @TontoBubbaGoldstein


    Trump’s been compared to Andy Jackson and Teddy Roosevelt…perhaps a more apt comparison would be Richard Milhous Nixon?
     
    This is perceptive.

    Roger Stone, an old Nixon trickster, is working for Trump. (Yes, I know, he either quit or was fired early in the campaign, but I think that was just convenient.) He may have a few surprises up his sleeve.

    I surely hope so.
    , @Ed
    @TontoBubbaGoldstein

    The irony is that according to a recent NYT poll, blacks in NC support HB2 and the governor pulls in double the support that Trump does. He gets a grand total of 10% of the vote.

    This theory that riots gets blacks to the polls hasn't panned out for the Dems. It didn't work in'14 post-Ferguson in Ferguson.

  52. @wren
    @Harry Baldwin

    We all wish, but I am sure that Obama and the current CIA director Brennan (appointed by Obama) have already made sure that is not possible.

    This is doubly likely, considering that before Obama appointed him, his company accessed and may have altered Obama's passport files, paving Obama's path to the white house in the first place.

    The rabbit hole gets really funky when you read all the theories claiming that Brennan is a closet Muslim.

    Who the heck knows anymore? He speaks Arabic and lived in many Islamic countries for a long time, so it is not completely crazy...

    CIA chief in Saudi Arabia.

    http://youtu.be/7VQbAhqHoAo

    Replies: @wren, @Marie

    Hey, notice how our current CIA director referred to Palestine a few times in discussing all the Islamic countries he has known and loved?

    Curiouser and curiouser.

    Now I read that he voted for the Communist party candidate for president in the 70’s!

    Haha!

    http://www.infowars.com/cia-director-brennan-admits-voting-for-communist-party-in-1976/

    BTW, he admitted that while talking at a panel promoting more diversity in the CIA.

  53. well instead of sending the mothers of the movement she could have sent the poet laureate: Juan Felipe Herrera.

    https://www.poetryfoundation.org/resources/learning/core-poems/detail/55752

    This might be the appropriate poem for our year.

  54. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Echoing the baseball is a white man’s game theme you posted about last week:

    “Mariners catcher says all people involved with Black Lives Matter movement should be ‘locked behind bars like animals’”

    http://www.businessinsider.com/mariners-catcher-steve-clevenger-black-lives-matters-people-animals-2016-9

    The Seattle Mariners have issued a statement expressing disappointment in tweets that came from the account of catcher Steve Clevenger that strongly suggest that people involved with the “Black Lives Matter” movement should be treated like animals.

    Clevenger, who has been sidelined with an injury since late June, issued two tweets on Thursday afternoon. In the first he comments on a police-involved shooting while mocking people who kneel during the national anthem. In the second he calls for people involved in the Black Lives Movement to be “locked behind bars like animals.”

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Anonymous

    "Echoing the baseball is a white man’s game theme you posted about last week:

    “Mariners catcher says all people involved with Black Lives Matter movement should be ‘locked behind bars like animals’”

    I wonder what percentage of MLB players are going to vote for Donald Trump?

    , @Forbes
    @Anonymous

    Demonstrating for all, Twitter is for twits.

  55. @SFG
    @anon930

    They could also have kept their names after marriage. But...given that that's more of an upper-middle-class thing, you're probably right.

    Replies: @415 reasons

    Marriage, LOL

  56. @Harry Baldwin
    @Anonymous

    Donald is going to LOVE having Obama hand the keys to the White House over to him. I'm sure he'll get a little dig in, something like, "Hey, now that I'm president, I'm going to have the CIA locate your actual birth certificate and academic records. I'm really looking forward to reading them."

    Replies: @wren, @Intelligent Dasein, @Mr. Anon, @Forbes

    Donald is going to LOVE having Obama hand the keys to the White House over to him.

    Trump is going to need a proverbial Dr. Kynes to be Judge of the Change and a Thufir Hawat to clean out all the sabotage devices.

  57. @Anonymous
    Steve, you've blogged before about how Trump is sort of naturally driven by personal feuding, which made him a natural and eager fit for his appearances on WWE. I think you're right about that, and the following claim seems highly plausible to me:

    "Did Trump decide to run when Obama mocked him as a birther conspiracy theorist at White House dinner?"

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3802949/Did-Trump-decide-run-Obama-mocked-birther-conspiracy-theorist-White-House-dinner.html

    " Donald Trump ally Roger Stone suggested Trump decided to run for president after the 2011 White House Correspondents' Dinner
    Stone, speaking in a new Frontline documentary, said Trump was 'motivated' by President Obama jabs during a comedy routine
    The president made fun of Trump for peddling the 'birther' conspiracy theory and for his job as a reality TV host
    'These are the kinds of decisions that keep me up at night,' sniffed Obama, talking about which D-lister to throw off Trump's show 'The Apprentice'"

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Yep, @Forbes

    I’ve always thought Trump deciding to run had something to do with the fact that he was the only person who compelled Obama to release his birth certificate. I remember being surprised that the Obama White House took Trump so seriously considering the birther stuff had been around a few years at that point. It must’ve have been a big signal to Trump that liberals saw him as a real threat.

  58. @Arclight
    John McWhorter, who I generally respect, has a piece that touches on the tension blacks feel towards the police in Time: http://time.com/4504014/colin-kaepernick-kneel/.

    I am somewhat sympathetic to this in that many black people are treated with suspicion they do not deserve - but on the flipside, it's a product of the much higher rates of criminality in that segment of America. And while being sensitive to McWhorter's point, it ignores the fact that black criminality has a hugely destructive effect on the communities in which this problem is concentrated, and non-blacks have a legitimate interest in wanting to see this social problem suppressed as much as it can be through law enforcement.

    At the end of the day, it was a depressing read because it illustrates how different parts of the nation are just talking past each other because there is no reconciling their different viewpoints on this issue.

    Replies: @neutral, @The most deplorable one, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Bill P, @Yep, @Lurker, @anon, @jake, @Brutusale

    When of the Charlotte protesters yelled at a reporter “tell the truth!”. They believe the media lies and covers up for whites the way we believe the media lies and covers up for blacks.

  59. @Arclight
    John McWhorter, who I generally respect, has a piece that touches on the tension blacks feel towards the police in Time: http://time.com/4504014/colin-kaepernick-kneel/.

    I am somewhat sympathetic to this in that many black people are treated with suspicion they do not deserve - but on the flipside, it's a product of the much higher rates of criminality in that segment of America. And while being sensitive to McWhorter's point, it ignores the fact that black criminality has a hugely destructive effect on the communities in which this problem is concentrated, and non-blacks have a legitimate interest in wanting to see this social problem suppressed as much as it can be through law enforcement.

    At the end of the day, it was a depressing read because it illustrates how different parts of the nation are just talking past each other because there is no reconciling their different viewpoints on this issue.

    Replies: @neutral, @The most deplorable one, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Bill P, @Yep, @Lurker, @anon, @jake, @Brutusale

    At the end of the day, it was a depressing read because it illustrates how different parts of the nation are just talking past each other because there is no reconciling their different viewpoints on this issue.

    In other words: they can’t really be considered part of the same nation.

  60. @Lot
    The mainstream left, with Hillary bordering on center-left, are now in favor of engaging in drawn out and exquisite scrutiny of every single officer-involved shooting with a black man in this large country, with the explicit goal of smearing the police and stopping the good policies that has lead to huge reductions in crime since the mid-70's to early 90's peak.

    That's how the left loses in American politics.

    Ross's Steve Sailer-naming NYT's column does good work capturing how the Democrats are flirting with a self-inflicted loss this election, and how they did it once before in the Nixon-Reagan era:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/21/opinion/campaign-stops/clintons-samantha-bee-problem.html

    This spirit of political-cultural rebellion is obviously crucial to Trump’s act. As James Parker wrote in The Atlantic, he’s occupying “a space in American politics that is uniquely transgressive, volatile, carnivalesque, and (from a certain angle) punk rock.” (The alt-right-ish columnist Steve Sailer made the punk rock analogy as well.)
     
    Ross not only winked over at us, but also at too at those of us who make the effort to know and understand the history of Western Europe.

    Trump’s extremism also limits his appeal, of course. But if liberals are fortunate to be facing a Johnny Rotten figure in this presidential campaign, they are still having real trouble putting him away … and if he were somewhat less volatile and bigoted and gross, liberalism would be poised to close its era of cultural ascendance by watching all three branches of government pass back into conservative hands.

    Something like this happened once before: In the 1960s and 1970s, the culture shifted decisively leftward, but American voters shifted to the right and answered a cultural revolution with a political Thermidor.

    That Nixon-Reagan rightward shift did not repeal the 1960s or push the counterculture back to a beatnik-hippie fringe. But it did leave liberalism in a curious place throughout the 1980s: atop the commanding heights of culture yet often impotent in Washington, D.C.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermidorian_Reaction

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Jason Liu

    “The alt-right-ish columnist Steve Sailer made the punk rock analogy as well.”

    Way wait. Ross is putting Steve in the alt-right camp? Really? I never knew whether Steve accepted that designation, or whether he would decline being included in the alt-right in any official capacity. Sometimes various groups like HBD; Milo; Breitbart; etc. blend together and can appear to be an official part of the alt-right, but its very confusing as to which groups are part of the alt-right and which ones are technically not a part.

    I have a feeling that both Jared Taylor and Richard Spencer would very much like Steve to have a more official part of their grouping, but who knows if he would accept their offer? Side note, I’m puzzled sometimes as to why Mr. Taylor hasn’t invited Steve to speak at his American Renaissance conferences.

    I suppose one could always just ask him whether Douthat’s inclusion of him with the alt-right is accurate from his perspective.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi


    I’m puzzled sometimes as to why Mr. Taylor hasn’t invited Steve to speak at his American Renaissance conferences.
     
    Steve spoke at a Taylor event about 7 years ago.

    I'm not sure Steve has strong views on the application of Norse theology to modern America, or "The Ways of Men" so he might not fit in at a Spencer event.

  61. @Harry Baldwin
    @Anonymous

    Donald is going to LOVE having Obama hand the keys to the White House over to him. I'm sure he'll get a little dig in, something like, "Hey, now that I'm president, I'm going to have the CIA locate your actual birth certificate and academic records. I'm really looking forward to reading them."

    Replies: @wren, @Intelligent Dasein, @Mr. Anon, @Forbes

    When Pat Buchanan was running for President in 2000 I think it was (a hopeless cluster of a third-party campaign) he said the first thing he would do upon taking his oath of office would be to turn to his predecessor and say “You have the right to remain silent, you have the right to an attorney,……………….”

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  62. @Anonymous
    Echoing the baseball is a white man's game theme you posted about last week:

    "Mariners catcher says all people involved with Black Lives Matter movement should be 'locked behind bars like animals'"

    http://www.businessinsider.com/mariners-catcher-steve-clevenger-black-lives-matters-people-animals-2016-9

    The Seattle Mariners have issued a statement expressing disappointment in tweets that came from the account of catcher Steve Clevenger that strongly suggest that people involved with the "Black Lives Matter" movement should be treated like animals.

    Clevenger, who has been sidelined with an injury since late June, issued two tweets on Thursday afternoon. In the first he comments on a police-involved shooting while mocking people who kneel during the national anthem. In the second he calls for people involved in the Black Lives Movement to be "locked behind bars like animals."
     

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Forbes

    “Echoing the baseball is a white man’s game theme you posted about last week:

    “Mariners catcher says all people involved with Black Lives Matter movement should be ‘locked behind bars like animals’”

    I wonder what percentage of MLB players are going to vote for Donald Trump?

  63. @Tiny Duck
    Clinton will win a landslide.

    Trumps supporters consist of fools who think there is racism against whites and that blacks don't face racism

    Replies: @ic1000, @Louis Renault

    Stronger Together

  64. @Intelligent Dasein
    The phrase "Mothers of the Movement" is just begging for a scatological send-up.

    Replies: @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @antipater_1, @Camlost

    I appear to have eaten something bad today. Later I had the Mother of All Movements.

  65. @Olorin
    White female cop Betty Shelby will find a lot of company under the bus, won't she?

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @gda

    She will most certainly be acquitted of manslaughter given the circumstances. Suspect continually disobeys police instructions, walks away to his vehicle, shrugs off a taser, continues to the vehicle and seems to reach in the back window, whereupon the female cop shoots him.

    Doesn’t matter if he was just reaching for a toothpick. That was the green light as far as police procedure is concerned.

    As far as the Charlotte fiasco is concerned, Ingram is right – get the cameras out of there and everyone loses interest and goes home. If they don’t, give them a final warning, then send in the gendarmes to crack a few heads. It’s what Rudy would do.

    • Replies: @Tim Howells
    @gda


    get the cameras out of there and everyone loses interest and goes home.
     
    Otherwise leave the cameras in, let the looters and the gangsters do their thing, and Trump gets another series of free TV commercials, far better than anything his team could have produced. The Democrats have totally lost their minds.
    , @Chris Mallory
    @gda


    That was the green light as far as police procedure is concerned.
     
    Which is why we need a major change in police procedure. The lives and rights of citizens are more important than the procedures and lives of cops. They work for us, we can change their rules of employment. They don't like it, they are free to find honest work.
    , @Olorin
    @gda

    It's gonna get really costly really fast if every last cop--white but also other--has to undergo the Racial Orthodoxy auto-da-fe of being charged with manslaughter for shooting within the ROEs someone who acts and reacts as you described.

    OTOH I guess that involves transferring your and my wages and savings and taxes to the Benjamin Crumps. Which is super-mega-economy-size Social Justice and Repamarations, eh?

    You and Tim recall this to my mind:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOn-MnSldFE

  66. I don’t see how the Riots in Charlotte hurts Hillary. And when, not if they spread, to other parts of the nation, I wouldn’t think it would hurt Dems at all.

    Its not 1968; the demographics make Whites a functional minority here already. The majority of infants born last year were non-White. Anti-White riots, which is what the Charlotte riots and BLM riots in general, appeal to not just Blacks, but other non-Whites liking the domination displays that Black rioters engage in; and figuring their turn for dominance over Whites is coming as well.

    Anti-White riots turn out not just Black voters, but Hispanic ones, eager to see more opportunities for looting as in the Rodney King riots, and even Asian ones. Sure, Korean and Vietnamese shop owners don’t like being looted, but every other non-White just salivates at the idea of kicking out Joe White guy from his job and taking it.

    And the loss of majority home ownership among Whites makes the incentives different. Homeowners are allergic to riots, non-homeowners tend to be roughly indifferent. Certainly the London Riots where Whites were famously forced to strip by hulking and low IQ Black rioters helped … elect Saddiq Khan. UKIP has only 1 MP; and Labor is full on loony anti-White left, with no end in sight.

    Of course, those with property will defend what they have, which is often damn little. A billionaire can write off the loss of a multi-million dollar yacht, or a villa. Joe Average with $100K in equity in his house will fight and die for it; and kill for it. This will not end well; a Cold Civil War can turn RED HOT in an instant — general Black burning, looting, and home invasion of suburbs as Hillary! seeks every bit of advantage. It might get her both elected. And end the US as a nation.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Whiskey


    "It might both get her elected and end the US as a nation."
    [edited for clarity]
     
    Election of Hillary will likely end the US as a nation with or without riots.

    Indeed, the US may already be finished irrespective of the next election.

    Replies: @jake

    , @Jack ryan
    @Whiskey

    Nah

    Look what happened after the Black Rodney King riots in LA.

    Black mayor Tom Bradley replaced by White Republican, Blacks have been basically put down , ethnically cleansed from Southern California.

    Asian and Arab merchants don t like rioting Blacks

    , @Jack Hanson
    @Whiskey

    Do you ever leave your goonfort and interact with real people versus caricatures you invent?

  67. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    I remember watching that when it happened and thinking, "Why is Donald Trump there?" and "Man, Trump looks really pissed off" as Obama gave his speech and made fun of Trump while everyone in the audience was laughing except for the stone-faced Trump.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htt91G2qDwM

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @e, @Harry Baldwin, @Prof. Woland

    If Donald Trump becomes President he will sit on top of the largest information gathering organization in the world. I have no doubt that either all at once or little by little, Obama’s past, which he has spent so much time and resources hiding will get leaked out much to his ever lasting shame. Someday, it will probably be proven that BHO got over promoted just about every step of the way due to affirmative action. It also might be proven that he never registered for selective service and that he wrote all types of atrocious radical dreck in college.

    Obama’s birth certificate was just a cap stone or cover story to hide his past. I have heard one long forgotten blogger who I wish I could name refer to it as a McGuffen. When David Axelrod hid Obama’s school transcripts, selective service records, medical records, Baptismal records, etc., he used the birth certificate as a poison pill or passive aggressive boobie trap to blow up whoever tried to uncover his past. After all, any one who is interested just cannot accept the legitimacy of the first African American President.

    The only thing more enjoyable than watching President Trump rub Obama’s nose in the proverbial cow pie will be watching Obama’s supporters gasp when he does it.

    • Disagree: melendwyr
    • Replies: @27 year old
    @Prof. Woland

    Hopefully he spills the beans on Harvey Dent while he's at it

    , @melendwyr
    @Prof. Woland

    If there was any dirt on Obama, the documentation has probably been destroyed by now.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland

  68. @Lot
    The mainstream left, with Hillary bordering on center-left, are now in favor of engaging in drawn out and exquisite scrutiny of every single officer-involved shooting with a black man in this large country, with the explicit goal of smearing the police and stopping the good policies that has lead to huge reductions in crime since the mid-70's to early 90's peak.

    That's how the left loses in American politics.

    Ross's Steve Sailer-naming NYT's column does good work capturing how the Democrats are flirting with a self-inflicted loss this election, and how they did it once before in the Nixon-Reagan era:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/21/opinion/campaign-stops/clintons-samantha-bee-problem.html

    This spirit of political-cultural rebellion is obviously crucial to Trump’s act. As James Parker wrote in The Atlantic, he’s occupying “a space in American politics that is uniquely transgressive, volatile, carnivalesque, and (from a certain angle) punk rock.” (The alt-right-ish columnist Steve Sailer made the punk rock analogy as well.)
     
    Ross not only winked over at us, but also at too at those of us who make the effort to know and understand the history of Western Europe.

    Trump’s extremism also limits his appeal, of course. But if liberals are fortunate to be facing a Johnny Rotten figure in this presidential campaign, they are still having real trouble putting him away … and if he were somewhat less volatile and bigoted and gross, liberalism would be poised to close its era of cultural ascendance by watching all three branches of government pass back into conservative hands.

    Something like this happened once before: In the 1960s and 1970s, the culture shifted decisively leftward, but American voters shifted to the right and answered a cultural revolution with a political Thermidor.

    That Nixon-Reagan rightward shift did not repeal the 1960s or push the counterculture back to a beatnik-hippie fringe. But it did leave liberalism in a curious place throughout the 1980s: atop the commanding heights of culture yet often impotent in Washington, D.C.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermidorian_Reaction

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Jason Liu

    Right, it’s going to take a lot more than a Thermidor to defeat the left. Reaction is not enough, ideological revolution is needed. The right needs to not just hold power, but also undermine the legitimacy of leftist ideas over the long run.

    • Replies: @Anoni
    @Jason Liu

    I posted something similar on another blog but more useful here. One of the things we must do is directly challenge the university marxism.

    The first step is to legalize IQ tests for employment, universities get a lot of market power by being the quasi IQ test. LEgalize that and we (I am a prof) will have to compete and show people are learning something. Various ethnicity studies X majors won't get any lift from the college degree as IQ test effect. I suspect those majors would add very little to employment opportunities in a world with IQ tests.

    Second, don't let Unis get away with hiring as many foreigners as we want. Every hiring process I have been in (~10) there have been perfectly qualified domestics ranked below foreigners. (Sometimes domestics got the job after foreigners turned it down.) All you need is a decent minimum salary around 120k. Universities can only afford that with superstars and thats fine.

    International profs dominating departments means saying anything conservative, much less anti immigration or pro European, is very uncomfortable and will likely get complaints to the dean about you creating a bad work environment. Replacing with domestics will shift things somewhat.

    Then, the Trump loan idea is great. Colleges have to help pay back loans that go bad. That will shift us to renumerative fields and also away from affirmative action. Only the richest schools will be able to do AA. An extension would be to make colleges have skin in the game for Pell Grants- they have to pay the government back if graduates don't have jobs or something like that.

    These things could start shifting universities back from the crazy marxist edge.

    Replies: @CCZ, @27 year old, @Almost Missouri, @Jim Don Bob, @RonaldB

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Jason Liu


    "The right needs to not just hold power, but also undermine the legitimacy of leftist ideas over the long run."
     
    Yes, this is the crux of it. Everything else is downstream.

    There's good news and bad news. The good news is that people like our host are doing just that, however (unintentionally) stealthily. The bad news is that you can't beat something with nothing. The Left's somethings (Cult Marx, White Privilege, Feminism, etc.) are all false and the Right's criticisms of them are correct. But being correct as a critic doesn't make you inheritor of the throne. To inherit the throne you not only have to depose the usurper, you have to show you're the legitimate heir.

    So far, the Right has been correct, if only partially effective, at discrediting the Left's ascendancy. But the throne can't just remain vacant. I don't know if this is some natural law, or if it is just that people in general are too immature to go about their lives without some ruling ideology, but whatever the reason, it is apparent that a vacant throne attracts vagrants, so it needs to be occupied, and the more right and Right the occupier, the better.

    Unfortunately, if the current Left is a Coalition of the Fringes united by the Left's falsehoods and group-hate, the current Right consists of Confederation of the Anti-Fringes united by disgust with the Left's lies and threats to their livelihoods and lives. Unfortunately, the Left's lies are a Something (based on an identifiable though false theme) while the Right's anti-lies are ultimately a Nothing because they lack any unifying theme other than resistance, and a Nothing, however true, will never beat the Something, however false.

  69. @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    @wiseguy

    The NC bathroom law was in response to a Charlotte ordinance, IIRC.

    Would be kind of funny if Charlotte gets punished for doing the *coughs* "right" thing.

    Another theory is that the Democrats are stirring the pot to get out the black vote. Problem for them is that while it may very well increase the black vote (reliably around 90% Democrat), idiocy like what is happening in Charlotte also galvanizes the white vote for the law and order candidate. (Trump). Trump's been compared to Andy Jackson and Teddy Roosevelt...perhaps a more apt comparison would be Richard Milhous Nixon?

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Ed

    Trump’s been compared to Andy Jackson and Teddy Roosevelt…perhaps a more apt comparison would be Richard Milhous Nixon?

    This is perceptive.

    Roger Stone, an old Nixon trickster, is working for Trump. (Yes, I know, he either quit or was fired early in the campaign, but I think that was just convenient.) He may have a few surprises up his sleeve.

    I surely hope so.

  70. @Jason Liu
    @Lot

    Right, it's going to take a lot more than a Thermidor to defeat the left. Reaction is not enough, ideological revolution is needed. The right needs to not just hold power, but also undermine the legitimacy of leftist ideas over the long run.

    Replies: @Anoni, @Almost Missouri

    I posted something similar on another blog but more useful here. One of the things we must do is directly challenge the university marxism.

    The first step is to legalize IQ tests for employment, universities get a lot of market power by being the quasi IQ test. LEgalize that and we (I am a prof) will have to compete and show people are learning something. Various ethnicity studies X majors won’t get any lift from the college degree as IQ test effect. I suspect those majors would add very little to employment opportunities in a world with IQ tests.

    Second, don’t let Unis get away with hiring as many foreigners as we want. Every hiring process I have been in (~10) there have been perfectly qualified domestics ranked below foreigners. (Sometimes domestics got the job after foreigners turned it down.) All you need is a decent minimum salary around 120k. Universities can only afford that with superstars and thats fine.

    International profs dominating departments means saying anything conservative, much less anti immigration or pro European, is very uncomfortable and will likely get complaints to the dean about you creating a bad work environment. Replacing with domestics will shift things somewhat.

    Then, the Trump loan idea is great. Colleges have to help pay back loans that go bad. That will shift us to renumerative fields and also away from affirmative action. Only the richest schools will be able to do AA. An extension would be to make colleges have skin in the game for Pell Grants- they have to pay the government back if graduates don’t have jobs or something like that.

    These things could start shifting universities back from the crazy marxist edge.

    • Replies: @CCZ
    @Anoni

    Regarding "legalize IQ tests for employment," perhaps unlikely to happen because of Griggs Vs Duke Power, which prohibits employment tests (when used as a decisive factor in employment decisions) that are not a "reasonable measure of job performance."


    The Supreme Court ruled that under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, if such tests disparately impact ethnic minority groups, businesses must demonstrate that such tests are "reasonably related" to the job for which the test is required. As such, Title VII of the Civil Rights Act prohibits employment tests (when used as a decisive factor in employment decisions) that are not a "reasonable measure of job performance," regardless of the absence of actual intent to discriminate. Since the aptitude tests involved, and the high school diploma requirement, were broad-based and not directly related to the jobs performed, Duke Power's employee transfer procedure was found by the Court to be in violation of the Act.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griggs_v._Duke_Power_Co.

    Replies: @Anoni, @Joe Schmoe

    , @27 year old
    @Anoni

    I don't know if it was legal or not but one company I applied this summer to had me take a 1960s era "computer programmer aptitude battery" test which seemed suspiciously close to an IQ test. It was a software company but not a programming job.

    I was excited because I thought that using a a test indicated they would be a great company to work for, but their salary offer was insultingly low.

    Point is, small companies are doing it under the radar and large companies may be Chabging too - EY announced they were dropping college degrees as a requirement.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Anoni

    Mostly agree. The two political things corrupting academia are:

    1) the Griggs v. Duke Power decision and related decisions/laws/regs/policies that make academic degrees de facto employment prerequisites, and

    2) the deluge of federal money mainly via student loans.

    The first has diverted millions of people into the academic machine that neither need it nor are needed by the academy. The second has financed this diversion and made the academy financially dependent on something that is unnecessary and even contrary to its purpose.

    Maybe a saner Supreme Court could overturn Duke, maybe Congress. Others who are better informed legally can speculate. The encircling weeds of laws/regs/policies need to be cleared too though. It's not a silver bullet fix. And I'll guarantee the Left will oppose this clean-up every step of the way. It's just what they do.

    Your proposals for cleaning up the student loan scam may work. The Fed just turning off the spigot would work too. They won't do it voluntarily though. Like many things nowadays, I think it may only be resolved by a massive currency collapse, which of course will have many other ... um .... effects.

    Replies: @Joe Schmoe

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Anoni

    Here (http://www.aei.org/publication/decentralization-deference-and-the-administrative-state/) is a good article about what can be done to rein in the administrative state. I am not as hopeful as Wallison.

    The writer Decius also said in his Flight 93 Election article (http://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election/) that the administrative state is the greatest threat to our liberty because it is unaccountable. This is a feature as far as the left is concerned.

    , @RonaldB
    @Anoni

    I really like the direction of your solution. You're proposing a systemic, rather than administrative or forced, solution to a problem.

    Several comments have noted that the Griggs v. Duke Power decision would forbid the use of IQ tests. In fact, Congress has the power to strip the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court from any area of legislation. Who knows what is possible if a Republican Congress and President are elected?

    You would also have to do away with the fiction of affirmative action. Blacks and other non-Asian minorities would obviously be seriously under-represented in any employment area employing IQ tests. I would speculate the reinstating the concept of private property and freedom of association might actually benefit some blacks. If companies are allowed to use IQ tests, but not required to do so (because of having to objectively justify their hiring decisions), they might look at non-IQ factors, such as honesty, work ethic, perseverance, etc that might lead them to hire a minority who is not the next in line on a strict IQ basis.

    Replies: @guest

  71. @Otto the P
    Sandra Bland's mom? If she'd had paid her daughter's bail, Sandra wouldn't have gone for a long dive while dressed in a short rope. Since when can the mothers of suicides claim to be victims of white racism? Well. since the liberals turned the world inside out, upside down, and rinsed it twice. But I am surprised she could pry herself free of the Lane Bryant outlet Mall where I'm sure she's going through the millions she earned by letting her clearly insane daughter rot in the hoosegow.

    Replies: @Mack Bolan

    I was thinking that myself. Also did she hit that ghetto lottery?

  72. @CCZ
    National Activists Fly In As Charlotte Police Protests Continue

    By Ann Doss Helms
    [email protected]
    September 22, 2016

    Leaders of protests in Ferguson, Baltimore and Baton Rouge were flying into Charlotte Thursday as a third day of action against police violence loomed.

    Leaders of some of those protests, such as Michael McBride, a California minister who leads the Live Free campaign against mass incarceration, and Traci Blackmon, an organizer of the Black Lives Matter movement in Ferguson, Mo., traveled to Charlotte.

    Corine Mack, president of the Charlotte-Mecklenburg NAACP branch, said Thursday that Charlotte-Mecklenburg police, including Chief Kerr Putney, have worked with local groups to build the kind of relationships that could improve treatment of African-Americans and build trust.

    But she and other leaders said the department’s rush to depict Keith Lamont Scott, who was shot to death Tuesday by an officer, as a gunman eroded that progress. So, they said, did the city’s rush to say that the man shot Wednesday was the victim of another protester, even though little was clear through Thursday about what had happened.
     
    I guess the moral is, if you offend tender sensibilities (or commit those evil racist micro-aggressions), you get riots and looting.

    Replies: @TangoMan

    National Activists Fly In As Charlotte Police Protests Continue

    What kind of job is “national activist?” I recall Governor Palin making light of Obama’s job as a community organizer and wondering what kind of job that was.

    But she and other leaders said the department’s rush

    Leaders. This brings to mind the GOP elite – an organization of generals leading an army with no voters behind them. Why are these leaders flying in when their “troops” are stuck back at home base? Could it be that there’s money floating around and they’re trying to tap into the money stream?

    There is not enough attention and common understanding on how these movements are financed and how these leaders and activists make a living.

  73. @Bill P
    @Arclight

    I'm sympathetic to blacks, too, because I was manhandled on a few occasions by the cops as a "youth" myself.

    The problem is that the overwhelming majority of young black men - and probably a majority of young white men - don't fit into the new urban paradigm, which is largely defined by aging, propertied white baby boomers and docile minorities. Most blacks are a poor fit for it, yet there they are.

    Young white men who don't fit in just leave the city and get a job in a majority white community where their work is valued. Take white veterans for example. How many would you find in upscale urban centers? Very few, but if you leave town and drive for about fifteen minutes they're all over.

    Blacks don't have that option for a number of reasons. One of the main reasons being that blue collar work requires certification and demonstrable literacy. Your average young black male has neither the skills nor the squeaky clean record required for decent paying non-college jobs. He's stuck in the city with no prospects and he adheres to a culture that is, if not entirely criminalized, rife with infractions at every turn.

    Blacks are getting squeezed from pretty much every direction, and as the Obama presidency proves even their political supporters don't have the will or ability to find a workable solution. They'll just propose more programs and regulations, squeezing them harder and harder thereby guaranteeing periodic outbursts of violence.

    Thomas Jefferson was right about the blacks. They need to go their own way, and we need to leave them alone and free to do so. They can't be white, and they don't want to be. I don't blame them for that.

    Replies: @unpc downunder, @Ed, @AnotherDad

    “Your average young black male has neither the skills nor the squeaky clean record required for decent paying non-college jobs.”

    A lot of low skilled jobs now require having a well documented work history. For example, its hard to get work as an airport baggage handler an inner city security guard without good references, even though the work itself isn’t very demanding in terms or skills or IQ.

    • Replies: @guest
    @unpc downunder

    How do illegal aliens get jobs, then? Not only do they have no work history, or only recent work history, they could have been serial killers in their home country for all a potential employer knows. There's something else going on with blacks.

    Replies: @Jefferson

  74. @anon930

    Gwen Carr, mother of Eric Garner; Maria Hamilton, mother of Dontre Hamilton; and Geneva Reed-Veal, mother of Sandra Bland
     
    Yeah it's interesting to note how the last names of the mothers don't match up with the kids. Like Mike Brown's mom's last name was McSpadden. Trayvon's mom's last name was Fulton. I wonder if it has to due with what sociologists refer to as "multi-partner fertility".

    Replies: @SFG, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @anonymous, @Ed

    I think only trayvon’s parents were married at one point. I could be wrong but they at least acted like a married couple. There were pics of them going on vacations as a family unit.

    Mike Brown’s mom was 16 & unmarried when she had him. He lived with various relatives and was living with his grandma in a Section 8 unit in Ferguson.

  75. @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    @wiseguy

    The NC bathroom law was in response to a Charlotte ordinance, IIRC.

    Would be kind of funny if Charlotte gets punished for doing the *coughs* "right" thing.

    Another theory is that the Democrats are stirring the pot to get out the black vote. Problem for them is that while it may very well increase the black vote (reliably around 90% Democrat), idiocy like what is happening in Charlotte also galvanizes the white vote for the law and order candidate. (Trump). Trump's been compared to Andy Jackson and Teddy Roosevelt...perhaps a more apt comparison would be Richard Milhous Nixon?

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Ed

    The irony is that according to a recent NYT poll, blacks in NC support HB2 and the governor pulls in double the support that Trump does. He gets a grand total of 10% of the vote.

    This theory that riots gets blacks to the polls hasn’t panned out for the Dems. It didn’t work in’14 post-Ferguson in Ferguson.

  76. Seems to be some Black Lives Matter mini-protests in Compton…

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c6d_1474561694

  77. @Bill P
    @Arclight

    I'm sympathetic to blacks, too, because I was manhandled on a few occasions by the cops as a "youth" myself.

    The problem is that the overwhelming majority of young black men - and probably a majority of young white men - don't fit into the new urban paradigm, which is largely defined by aging, propertied white baby boomers and docile minorities. Most blacks are a poor fit for it, yet there they are.

    Young white men who don't fit in just leave the city and get a job in a majority white community where their work is valued. Take white veterans for example. How many would you find in upscale urban centers? Very few, but if you leave town and drive for about fifteen minutes they're all over.

    Blacks don't have that option for a number of reasons. One of the main reasons being that blue collar work requires certification and demonstrable literacy. Your average young black male has neither the skills nor the squeaky clean record required for decent paying non-college jobs. He's stuck in the city with no prospects and he adheres to a culture that is, if not entirely criminalized, rife with infractions at every turn.

    Blacks are getting squeezed from pretty much every direction, and as the Obama presidency proves even their political supporters don't have the will or ability to find a workable solution. They'll just propose more programs and regulations, squeezing them harder and harder thereby guaranteeing periodic outbursts of violence.

    Thomas Jefferson was right about the blacks. They need to go their own way, and we need to leave them alone and free to do so. They can't be white, and they don't want to be. I don't blame them for that.

    Replies: @unpc downunder, @Ed, @AnotherDad

    The best suggestion I’ve heard in the last ten years to address this problem was from a Buffalo area Republican congressman. He said that the unemployed black men in buffalo should be setup to work in area fields at a decent wage $15 an hour I believe. That’s probably ambitious. At any rate he was denounced as racist and walked it back.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Ed

    We can't have blacks working fields. That's what Mexicans are for. I can't believe that stupid white racist didn't know that.

    , @Joe Schmoe
    @Ed


    The best suggestion I’ve heard in the last ten years to address this problem was from a Buffalo area Republican congressman. He said that the unemployed black men in buffalo should be setup to work in area fields at a decent wage $15 an hour I believe. That’s probably ambitious. At any rate he was denounced as racist and walked it back.
     
    I would guess he was denounced by the owners of said fields who 1) don't wish to pay $15/hr. and 2) know that blacks are more dangerous and less productive than hispanics and whites.
  78. I notice that instapundit is in the Daily Mail for being suspended by Twitter for the tweet “Run them down.”

    He was actually linking to reports that cars were being stopped on the highway by rioters and their occupants were in danger.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3802303/Glenn-Reynolds-UT-Knoxville-law-professor-told-Twitter-followers-run-Charlotte-protesters.html

    I am sure there is a lot of pressure to “Shut him down.”

    I hope it only makes him stronger.

  79. @Anoni
    @Jason Liu

    I posted something similar on another blog but more useful here. One of the things we must do is directly challenge the university marxism.

    The first step is to legalize IQ tests for employment, universities get a lot of market power by being the quasi IQ test. LEgalize that and we (I am a prof) will have to compete and show people are learning something. Various ethnicity studies X majors won't get any lift from the college degree as IQ test effect. I suspect those majors would add very little to employment opportunities in a world with IQ tests.

    Second, don't let Unis get away with hiring as many foreigners as we want. Every hiring process I have been in (~10) there have been perfectly qualified domestics ranked below foreigners. (Sometimes domestics got the job after foreigners turned it down.) All you need is a decent minimum salary around 120k. Universities can only afford that with superstars and thats fine.

    International profs dominating departments means saying anything conservative, much less anti immigration or pro European, is very uncomfortable and will likely get complaints to the dean about you creating a bad work environment. Replacing with domestics will shift things somewhat.

    Then, the Trump loan idea is great. Colleges have to help pay back loans that go bad. That will shift us to renumerative fields and also away from affirmative action. Only the richest schools will be able to do AA. An extension would be to make colleges have skin in the game for Pell Grants- they have to pay the government back if graduates don't have jobs or something like that.

    These things could start shifting universities back from the crazy marxist edge.

    Replies: @CCZ, @27 year old, @Almost Missouri, @Jim Don Bob, @RonaldB

    Regarding “legalize IQ tests for employment,” perhaps unlikely to happen because of Griggs Vs Duke Power, which prohibits employment tests (when used as a decisive factor in employment decisions) that are not a “reasonable measure of job performance.”

    The Supreme Court ruled that under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, if such tests disparately impact ethnic minority groups, businesses must demonstrate that such tests are “reasonably related” to the job for which the test is required. As such, Title VII of the Civil Rights Act prohibits employment tests (when used as a decisive factor in employment decisions) that are not a “reasonable measure of job performance,” regardless of the absence of actual intent to discriminate. Since the aptitude tests involved, and the high school diploma requirement, were broad-based and not directly related to the jobs performed, Duke Power’s employee transfer procedure was found by the Court to be in violation of the Act.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griggs_v._Duke_Power_Co.

    • Replies: @Anoni
    @CCZ

    Yes, but the right Justices could overturn that. And Congress could amend Title VII. Its something that would pass under the radar but would undermine the power of academia.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    , @Joe Schmoe
    @CCZ


    Regarding “legalize IQ tests for employment,” perhaps unlikely to happen because of Griggs Vs Duke Power, which prohibits employment tests (when used as a decisive factor in employment decisions) that are not a “reasonable measure of job performance.”
     
    However, they can give the tests and then not use them as a decisive factor in employment. Rather they can hold them and wait and see if the job performance has a strong correlation to the test scores. If so, then they can establish that the tests do predict performance.

    Replies: @guest

  80. Take it easy on that frail, diseased old lady unaccountably running for the presidency of Earth’s most powerful nation — it’s clear she has significant, perhaps severe neurological problems.

    She can’t stand longer than a few minutes and needs the assistance of at least two stout men flanking her at all times.

    She has seizures brought on by stress, heat, loud noises, and bright lights.

    She has uncontrolled coughing attacks that last several minutes.

    She undoubtedly qualifies for (and probably receives) Social Security disability.

    It was HER TURN in 2008, when she was in better health, but had her coronation stolen from her by a magic negro (TM).

    Her husband has humiliated her repeatedly, in public.

    What a pathetic creature. And what a pathetic nation that this is the best the Democratic Party could do.

    • Agree: Avenge Harambe
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen


    Her husband has humiliated her repeatedly, in public.
     
    She's the Nixon of Sex, in covering up his crimes. If she was being a good wife, then Nixon was being too good a boss.

    One important difference: neither the crimes of 1972 nor their subsequent cover-up involved the threat of violence.
  81. @gda
    @Olorin

    She will most certainly be acquitted of manslaughter given the circumstances. Suspect continually disobeys police instructions, walks away to his vehicle, shrugs off a taser, continues to the vehicle and seems to reach in the back window, whereupon the female cop shoots him.

    Doesn't matter if he was just reaching for a toothpick. That was the green light as far as police procedure is concerned.

    As far as the Charlotte fiasco is concerned, Ingram is right - get the cameras out of there and everyone loses interest and goes home. If they don't, give them a final warning, then send in the gendarmes to crack a few heads. It's what Rudy would do.

    Replies: @Tim Howells, @Chris Mallory, @Olorin

    get the cameras out of there and everyone loses interest and goes home.

    Otherwise leave the cameras in, let the looters and the gangsters do their thing, and Trump gets another series of free TV commercials, far better than anything his team could have produced. The Democrats have totally lost their minds.

  82. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Arclight
    John McWhorter, who I generally respect, has a piece that touches on the tension blacks feel towards the police in Time: http://time.com/4504014/colin-kaepernick-kneel/.

    I am somewhat sympathetic to this in that many black people are treated with suspicion they do not deserve - but on the flipside, it's a product of the much higher rates of criminality in that segment of America. And while being sensitive to McWhorter's point, it ignores the fact that black criminality has a hugely destructive effect on the communities in which this problem is concentrated, and non-blacks have a legitimate interest in wanting to see this social problem suppressed as much as it can be through law enforcement.

    At the end of the day, it was a depressing read because it illustrates how different parts of the nation are just talking past each other because there is no reconciling their different viewpoints on this issue.

    Replies: @neutral, @The most deplorable one, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Bill P, @Yep, @Lurker, @anon, @jake, @Brutusale

    “…illustrates how different parts of the nation are just talking past each other because there is no reconciling their different viewpoints on this issue.”

    They are not ‘different parts of the nation’. They are completely different nations altogether. Nor do blacks and whites have different viewpoints on this issue, so much as on every issue. Also noteworthy is that the black rent-a-mob rioters no longer even require a “racist” white cop to start their looting, arson and hysteria.

  83. @I, Libertine
    It's a paradox. If there could be such a thing as "Fathers of the Movement," there'd be no need for a movement. Not that the MSM will admit to noticing.

    Replies: @newrouter, @Marie

    I think Trayvon’s dad might beg to differ – he definitely showed up in tandem with our own national pestilence Al Sharpton on a whirlwind black church tour, gleefully clutching actual trash cans full of donated cash on the pulpit (after Sharpton passed the plate around a couple extra times).

    • Replies: @Ed
    @Marie

    Trayvon's dad was very involved in his son's life. You can tell his affection for him through pics. He often broke down during interviews whereas I don't recall his mother doing that. The reason he was staying with his dad was he was getting into a lot of trouble in Miami.

    Personally I think Trayvon was up to his old tricks, casing homes for future burglaries when Zimmerman stumbled upon him.

    Replies: @I, Libertine

  84. @CCZ
    @Anoni

    Regarding "legalize IQ tests for employment," perhaps unlikely to happen because of Griggs Vs Duke Power, which prohibits employment tests (when used as a decisive factor in employment decisions) that are not a "reasonable measure of job performance."


    The Supreme Court ruled that under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, if such tests disparately impact ethnic minority groups, businesses must demonstrate that such tests are "reasonably related" to the job for which the test is required. As such, Title VII of the Civil Rights Act prohibits employment tests (when used as a decisive factor in employment decisions) that are not a "reasonable measure of job performance," regardless of the absence of actual intent to discriminate. Since the aptitude tests involved, and the high school diploma requirement, were broad-based and not directly related to the jobs performed, Duke Power's employee transfer procedure was found by the Court to be in violation of the Act.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griggs_v._Duke_Power_Co.

    Replies: @Anoni, @Joe Schmoe

    Yes, but the right Justices could overturn that. And Congress could amend Title VII. Its something that would pass under the radar but would undermine the power of academia.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Anoni

    It's simpler than that. Congress could pass a law allowing IQ tests and stipulate that the law is not subject to judicial review.

    It's in the Constitution.

    Replies: @guest, @ben tillman

  85. @wren
    @Harry Baldwin

    We all wish, but I am sure that Obama and the current CIA director Brennan (appointed by Obama) have already made sure that is not possible.

    This is doubly likely, considering that before Obama appointed him, his company accessed and may have altered Obama's passport files, paving Obama's path to the white house in the first place.

    The rabbit hole gets really funky when you read all the theories claiming that Brennan is a closet Muslim.

    Who the heck knows anymore? He speaks Arabic and lived in many Islamic countries for a long time, so it is not completely crazy...

    CIA chief in Saudi Arabia.

    http://youtu.be/7VQbAhqHoAo

    Replies: @wren, @Marie

    John Brennan, the ultimate quisling dhimmi.

    He just told the Congressional Black Caucus that he voted for the Communist Party ticket in ’76 – thus I have no doubt the transition from Marx to Muhammad would’ve been all that hard for him (see: Muslim convert Carlos the Jackal)

  86. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Lot

    "The alt-right-ish columnist Steve Sailer made the punk rock analogy as well."

    Way wait. Ross is putting Steve in the alt-right camp? Really? I never knew whether Steve accepted that designation, or whether he would decline being included in the alt-right in any official capacity. Sometimes various groups like HBD; Milo; Breitbart; etc. blend together and can appear to be an official part of the alt-right, but its very confusing as to which groups are part of the alt-right and which ones are technically not a part.

    I have a feeling that both Jared Taylor and Richard Spencer would very much like Steve to have a more official part of their grouping, but who knows if he would accept their offer? Side note, I'm puzzled sometimes as to why Mr. Taylor hasn't invited Steve to speak at his American Renaissance conferences.

    I suppose one could always just ask him whether Douthat's inclusion of him with the alt-right is accurate from his perspective.

    Replies: @Lot

    I’m puzzled sometimes as to why Mr. Taylor hasn’t invited Steve to speak at his American Renaissance conferences.

    Steve spoke at a Taylor event about 7 years ago.

    I’m not sure Steve has strong views on the application of Norse theology to modern America, or “The Ways of Men” so he might not fit in at a Spencer event.

  87. @anony-mouse
    Nobody here can look at the bright side.

    In many countries people can't quickly tell who is and who is not physically dangerous to them. In America, especially recently, you can.

    Replies: @bomag

    In many countries people can’t quickly tell who is and who is not physically dangerous to them. In America, especially recently, you can.

    But we can’t do anything about it, except give them a genius grant.

    • LOL: Almost Missouri
  88. It’s not just about a sustainable and fair planet anymore; it’s about taking over a sinking ship.

    With all undue respect to today’s world leaders who may have given it their darndest, in light of the abysmal performance by the predominantly male leadership on Spaceship Earth at present, isn’t it time to give a more feminine perspective a shot? Buckminster Fuller thought so? His wisdom about the overall superiority of a feminine paradigm of leadership was published in a 1968 McCall’s Magazine article, entitled “Why Women Will Rule the World”.
    https://buckyworld.me/2016/07/28/women-take-over-spaceship-earth/

    Charlotte is taking on water and going down. Women and children first.

  89. A successful president (or politician for that matter) must have fingerspitzengeful..

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingerspitzengefühl

    Trump seems to have it in droves, difficult to explain his dizzying ascension otherwise (I would agree Bill Clinton had it too).. A two-term president usually has it!

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Zachary Latif

    Broken link

    Fingerspitzengefühl

  90. Financial Times leader – “Trump is a terrible isolationist who will bomb the Middle East at the drop of a hat”

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3f16e476-7e5c-11e6-8e50-8ec15fb462f4.html

    TL/DR; author Philip Stephens recycles the last 200 NYT op-eds, fails to condemn cartoon frogs, demonstrates the value of a Jesuit education to argumentational gymnastics.

    They’re frit.

    Elsewhere, NYT – “Hillary Clinton’s Outrage Machine”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/23/us/politics/hillary-clinton-media-david-brock.html

  91. @Jack Hanson
    @Anonymous

    There's a body of evidence that Rommel being denied the Pour Le Merite drove everything else he ever did after that.

    People respond in different ways to perceived slights. Some disregard high command and take their tank division to go fight the whole French Army piece by piece. Others run for President so they can try to save America.

    Replies: @guest, @reiner Tor

    But he did get the Pour le Mérite.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @reiner Tor

    I'm talking about something when he was a junior officer, so he took his troops over the Alps and captured a shit ton of Italians.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

  92. @Prof. Woland
    @Anonymous

    If Donald Trump becomes President he will sit on top of the largest information gathering organization in the world. I have no doubt that either all at once or little by little, Obama's past, which he has spent so much time and resources hiding will get leaked out much to his ever lasting shame. Someday, it will probably be proven that BHO got over promoted just about every step of the way due to affirmative action. It also might be proven that he never registered for selective service and that he wrote all types of atrocious radical dreck in college.

    Obama's birth certificate was just a cap stone or cover story to hide his past. I have heard one long forgotten blogger who I wish I could name refer to it as a McGuffen. When David Axelrod hid Obama's school transcripts, selective service records, medical records, Baptismal records, etc., he used the birth certificate as a poison pill or passive aggressive boobie trap to blow up whoever tried to uncover his past. After all, any one who is interested just cannot accept the legitimacy of the first African American President.

    The only thing more enjoyable than watching President Trump rub Obama's nose in the proverbial cow pie will be watching Obama's supporters gasp when he does it.

    Replies: @27 year old, @melendwyr

    Hopefully he spills the beans on Harvey Dent while he’s at it

  93. @Anoni
    @Jason Liu

    I posted something similar on another blog but more useful here. One of the things we must do is directly challenge the university marxism.

    The first step is to legalize IQ tests for employment, universities get a lot of market power by being the quasi IQ test. LEgalize that and we (I am a prof) will have to compete and show people are learning something. Various ethnicity studies X majors won't get any lift from the college degree as IQ test effect. I suspect those majors would add very little to employment opportunities in a world with IQ tests.

    Second, don't let Unis get away with hiring as many foreigners as we want. Every hiring process I have been in (~10) there have been perfectly qualified domestics ranked below foreigners. (Sometimes domestics got the job after foreigners turned it down.) All you need is a decent minimum salary around 120k. Universities can only afford that with superstars and thats fine.

    International profs dominating departments means saying anything conservative, much less anti immigration or pro European, is very uncomfortable and will likely get complaints to the dean about you creating a bad work environment. Replacing with domestics will shift things somewhat.

    Then, the Trump loan idea is great. Colleges have to help pay back loans that go bad. That will shift us to renumerative fields and also away from affirmative action. Only the richest schools will be able to do AA. An extension would be to make colleges have skin in the game for Pell Grants- they have to pay the government back if graduates don't have jobs or something like that.

    These things could start shifting universities back from the crazy marxist edge.

    Replies: @CCZ, @27 year old, @Almost Missouri, @Jim Don Bob, @RonaldB

    I don’t know if it was legal or not but one company I applied this summer to had me take a 1960s era “computer programmer aptitude battery” test which seemed suspiciously close to an IQ test. It was a software company but not a programming job.

    I was excited because I thought that using a a test indicated they would be a great company to work for, but their salary offer was insultingly low.

    Point is, small companies are doing it under the radar and large companies may be Chabging too – EY announced they were dropping college degrees as a requirement.

  94. @Ed
    @Bill P

    The best suggestion I've heard in the last ten years to address this problem was from a Buffalo area Republican congressman. He said that the unemployed black men in buffalo should be setup to work in area fields at a decent wage $15 an hour I believe. That's probably ambitious. At any rate he was denounced as racist and walked it back.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Joe Schmoe

    We can’t have blacks working fields. That’s what Mexicans are for. I can’t believe that stupid white racist didn’t know that.

  95. @Zachary Latif
    A successful president (or politician for that matter) must have fingerspitzengeful..

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingerspitzengefühl

    Trump seems to have it in droves, difficult to explain his dizzying ascension otherwise (I would agree Bill Clinton had it too).. A two-term president usually has it!

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Broken link

    Fingerspitzengefühl

  96. @tyrone
    the dreaded club no one wants to join , baloney. money, fame, travel, worshipful whites, of course the kid's gotta be killed by cops not other blacks

    Replies: @JerryC, @Cletus Rothschild

    Wow. Despite how any of us feels about this movement, how can anyone claim that the loss of a son is worth whatever subsequent “rewards” one receives afterward? And this “fame” and “worship” will not last, nor will it be all that rewarding in the end.

    • Replies: @Federalist
    @Cletus Rothschild

    I'm sure that commenter tyrone did not mean that he would personally think it is worth it to lose a son for the money, fame, and worship that comes with having your son killed by a cop.

    But I think that the actual mammas of these thugs probably think that it's worth it. They generally don't really give a damn about their kids anyway. They usually have several different baby-daddies. If a woman cares about her children at all, she would be very selective about the father of her children. They don't make the least effort to provide a stable life for their children. These so-called mothers could work hard, get the hell out of the hood, and not put out until they find a man with a job with a reasonable chance of sticking around to raise his children. (There are black men around like that.) The mothers can make sure that their children, especially their sons, try hard in school, get a decent education and stay out of trouble. (This assumes that they have gotten out of the ghetto.) Around here, we like to talk about IQ. So no, these kids probably won't end up going to Harvard or being brain surgeons, but they can manage to grow up without getting shot by the cops (or by black criminals in the hood) and live a decent life.

    You're right. The fame and worship won't last. But you are giving way to much credit to the ghetto lottery winners if you think that they are concerned in the least. They have either almost no ability or no desire to pan or think ahead.

    , @Olorin
    @Cletus Rothschild

    You are projecting white/European genomic views of offspring onto people from a population with a high likelihood of having very different ones.

    For people without a strong future time preference, what matters is NOW.

    In my experience in a 70% black city (three decades nearly), including ER work, the mommas only start to really dearly care deeply and profoundly about they chilluns when death happens.

    It is a form of primitivism that is very difficult to comprehend, coming out of K-reproduction-strategy genetics, where each child is precious. It's difficult to comprehend the lack of tenderness of mothers toward their newborns/infants/toddlers, even more difficult to comprehend their viciousness or indifference to them.

    It is death that gives a child's life meaning in that primitive mindset. The fashionable current spin on this, supplied heartily by Bolshevists, is Victimization. Clinging to Victimization means keeping the worship of death alive in every aspect of life.

    The Dems play on this for their own power, and it stinks.

  97. @Marie
    @I, Libertine

    I think Trayvon's dad might beg to differ - he definitely showed up in tandem with our own national pestilence Al Sharpton on a whirlwind black church tour, gleefully clutching actual trash cans full of donated cash on the pulpit (after Sharpton passed the plate around a couple extra times).

    Replies: @Ed

    Trayvon’s dad was very involved in his son’s life. You can tell his affection for him through pics. He often broke down during interviews whereas I don’t recall his mother doing that. The reason he was staying with his dad was he was getting into a lot of trouble in Miami.

    Personally I think Trayvon was up to his old tricks, casing homes for future burglaries when Zimmerman stumbled upon him.

    • Replies: @I, Libertine
    @Ed

    A phrase comes to my mind when I think of the kid who would look like Obama's kid if one of Obama's kids was a boy: "the exception that proves the rule."

  98. @Whiskey
    I don't see how the Riots in Charlotte hurts Hillary. And when, not if they spread, to other parts of the nation, I wouldn't think it would hurt Dems at all.

    Its not 1968; the demographics make Whites a functional minority here already. The majority of infants born last year were non-White. Anti-White riots, which is what the Charlotte riots and BLM riots in general, appeal to not just Blacks, but other non-Whites liking the domination displays that Black rioters engage in; and figuring their turn for dominance over Whites is coming as well.

    Anti-White riots turn out not just Black voters, but Hispanic ones, eager to see more opportunities for looting as in the Rodney King riots, and even Asian ones. Sure, Korean and Vietnamese shop owners don't like being looted, but every other non-White just salivates at the idea of kicking out Joe White guy from his job and taking it.

    And the loss of majority home ownership among Whites makes the incentives different. Homeowners are allergic to riots, non-homeowners tend to be roughly indifferent. Certainly the London Riots where Whites were famously forced to strip by hulking and low IQ Black rioters helped ... elect Saddiq Khan. UKIP has only 1 MP; and Labor is full on loony anti-White left, with no end in sight.

    Of course, those with property will defend what they have, which is often damn little. A billionaire can write off the loss of a multi-million dollar yacht, or a villa. Joe Average with $100K in equity in his house will fight and die for it; and kill for it. This will not end well; a Cold Civil War can turn RED HOT in an instant -- general Black burning, looting, and home invasion of suburbs as Hillary! seeks every bit of advantage. It might get her both elected. And end the US as a nation.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Jack ryan, @Jack Hanson

    “It might both get her elected and end the US as a nation.”
    [edited for clarity]

    Election of Hillary will likely end the US as a nation with or without riots.

    Indeed, the US may already be finished irrespective of the next election.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @jake
    @Almost Missouri

    If you mean that within another 20 years or so it will fracture - you may well be correct. It is a failed empire of liberalism, virtually as awful as the USSR was minus only the Gulag.

    So everybody should call for peaceful separation. Let Liberals have the rich northeast and the rich pacific coast, as well as the upper midwest from Erie across to Minneapolis. Let them invite every Negro, every Moslem, every Jew crazy enough to want to be around that many Moslems and blacks, and every gay from the rest of the states. As Mormons hate Trump, let the Libs have Utah, NV, AZ, and ID.

    We'll take all Christian or moral or cultural conservatives from their areas.

  99. @Arclight
    John McWhorter, who I generally respect, has a piece that touches on the tension blacks feel towards the police in Time: http://time.com/4504014/colin-kaepernick-kneel/.

    I am somewhat sympathetic to this in that many black people are treated with suspicion they do not deserve - but on the flipside, it's a product of the much higher rates of criminality in that segment of America. And while being sensitive to McWhorter's point, it ignores the fact that black criminality has a hugely destructive effect on the communities in which this problem is concentrated, and non-blacks have a legitimate interest in wanting to see this social problem suppressed as much as it can be through law enforcement.

    At the end of the day, it was a depressing read because it illustrates how different parts of the nation are just talking past each other because there is no reconciling their different viewpoints on this issue.

    Replies: @neutral, @The most deplorable one, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Bill P, @Yep, @Lurker, @anon, @jake, @Brutusale

    You are correct: there is no possible reconciliation on a large scale on this point. For a majority of blacks, it is always tit for tat. If a cop kills an armed black man with a rap sheet 10 pages long, that means blacks by the thousands are justified in rioting, no matter how many people get dragged out of cars and beaten, no matter how much property is destroyed, no matter how many deaths occur.

    That is who they are in the core of their beings. That is their innate sense of morality. And like the most extremely violent adolescents, they always have excuses, justifications. It is always YOUR fault they had to riot.

    Liberals back in the antebellum period – who, for you permanent anti-Semites as well as lovers of all things from ‘original America,’ were virtually 100% WASP – made the Negro the Sacred Cow of America. The bloodlust of that Liberalism with Negro as sacred cow was not satisfied by the Civil War, which we perhaps should call The War to Establish the Sacred Cow Negro, nor by Reconstruction. It will not be satisfied by these riots. 1000 Reginald Dennys could be dragged from vehicles and beaten on the same day, and the Liberal bloodlust for the Sacred Cow Negro would not be satisfied.

    Whatever genetic propensities toward violence that blacks may have, the simple fact is that they have been worsened by the American Elites who have made the Negro the nation’s first Sacred Cow. The Scared Cow knows it can destroy entire villages, a whole province, and not only will it not get butchered; it will get worshipped all the more.

    Blacks know that deep in their guts.

  100. @gda
    @Olorin

    She will most certainly be acquitted of manslaughter given the circumstances. Suspect continually disobeys police instructions, walks away to his vehicle, shrugs off a taser, continues to the vehicle and seems to reach in the back window, whereupon the female cop shoots him.

    Doesn't matter if he was just reaching for a toothpick. That was the green light as far as police procedure is concerned.

    As far as the Charlotte fiasco is concerned, Ingram is right - get the cameras out of there and everyone loses interest and goes home. If they don't, give them a final warning, then send in the gendarmes to crack a few heads. It's what Rudy would do.

    Replies: @Tim Howells, @Chris Mallory, @Olorin

    That was the green light as far as police procedure is concerned.

    Which is why we need a major change in police procedure. The lives and rights of citizens are more important than the procedures and lives of cops. They work for us, we can change their rules of employment. They don’t like it, they are free to find honest work.

  101. @anon
    @AnotherGuessModel

    “Mr. Douthat writes, “The alt-right-ish columnist xxxxx xxxxx made the punk rock analogy as well.” I used x’s because I, unlike Mr. Douthat, will not give any oxygen to the name of an “alt-right-ish” writer.

    Not THAT is how you signal, ladies and gentlemen!

    Go out of your way to point out a quote from an article that contains the name that you pointedly refuse to say, all to highlight how much better you are for refusing to draw attention to it.

    It's like a work of art, if you think about it.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Insightful and delightful comment. Thanks.

  102. @Almost Missouri
    @Whiskey


    "It might both get her elected and end the US as a nation."
    [edited for clarity]
     
    Election of Hillary will likely end the US as a nation with or without riots.

    Indeed, the US may already be finished irrespective of the next election.

    Replies: @jake

    If you mean that within another 20 years or so it will fracture – you may well be correct. It is a failed empire of liberalism, virtually as awful as the USSR was minus only the Gulag.

    So everybody should call for peaceful separation. Let Liberals have the rich northeast and the rich pacific coast, as well as the upper midwest from Erie across to Minneapolis. Let them invite every Negro, every Moslem, every Jew crazy enough to want to be around that many Moslems and blacks, and every gay from the rest of the states. As Mormons hate Trump, let the Libs have Utah, NV, AZ, and ID.

    We’ll take all Christian or moral or cultural conservatives from their areas.

  103. @Jason Liu
    @Lot

    Right, it's going to take a lot more than a Thermidor to defeat the left. Reaction is not enough, ideological revolution is needed. The right needs to not just hold power, but also undermine the legitimacy of leftist ideas over the long run.

    Replies: @Anoni, @Almost Missouri

    “The right needs to not just hold power, but also undermine the legitimacy of leftist ideas over the long run.”

    Yes, this is the crux of it. Everything else is downstream.

    There’s good news and bad news. The good news is that people like our host are doing just that, however (unintentionally) stealthily. The bad news is that you can’t beat something with nothing. The Left’s somethings (Cult Marx, White Privilege, Feminism, etc.) are all false and the Right’s criticisms of them are correct. But being correct as a critic doesn’t make you inheritor of the throne. To inherit the throne you not only have to depose the usurper, you have to show you’re the legitimate heir.

    So far, the Right has been correct, if only partially effective, at discrediting the Left’s ascendancy. But the throne can’t just remain vacant. I don’t know if this is some natural law, or if it is just that people in general are too immature to go about their lives without some ruling ideology, but whatever the reason, it is apparent that a vacant throne attracts vagrants, so it needs to be occupied, and the more right and Right the occupier, the better.

    Unfortunately, if the current Left is a Coalition of the Fringes united by the Left’s falsehoods and group-hate, the current Right consists of Confederation of the Anti-Fringes united by disgust with the Left’s lies and threats to their livelihoods and lives. Unfortunately, the Left’s lies are a Something (based on an identifiable though false theme) while the Right’s anti-lies are ultimately a Nothing because they lack any unifying theme other than resistance, and a Nothing, however true, will never beat the Something, however false.

  104. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The DOJ was sending people to infiltrate the Trayvon protests for some reason, probably to guide them and make it their tool. Now Clinton tries to exploit blacks for her own gain by pretending to be on their side and manipulating them. All this has been outrageously irresponsible. The US has had these racial fissures as it’s weak point and for these politicians to try to reap some personal advantage by hyping racial conflict really risks having it all get out of control. They’re doing harm to the US with all this but what do they care, there’s some benefit in it for them.

  105. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @anon930

    Given the destruction of the black family perpetrated by liberals, what can you expect?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I’m glad you said “perpetrated”. It’s about time we recognized the truth– the collapse of social structure in the ghetto was brought about on purpose. Fools on the right ask, “Didn’t they read the Moynihan Report?” Damn right they did– and followed the script perfectly! (Except for the part about “don’t”.)

    On the other hand, evil people who deatroy families for political gain don’t deserve the term “liberal”. Something more sinister is befitting. Like “progressive”.

  106. @Anoni
    @Jason Liu

    I posted something similar on another blog but more useful here. One of the things we must do is directly challenge the university marxism.

    The first step is to legalize IQ tests for employment, universities get a lot of market power by being the quasi IQ test. LEgalize that and we (I am a prof) will have to compete and show people are learning something. Various ethnicity studies X majors won't get any lift from the college degree as IQ test effect. I suspect those majors would add very little to employment opportunities in a world with IQ tests.

    Second, don't let Unis get away with hiring as many foreigners as we want. Every hiring process I have been in (~10) there have been perfectly qualified domestics ranked below foreigners. (Sometimes domestics got the job after foreigners turned it down.) All you need is a decent minimum salary around 120k. Universities can only afford that with superstars and thats fine.

    International profs dominating departments means saying anything conservative, much less anti immigration or pro European, is very uncomfortable and will likely get complaints to the dean about you creating a bad work environment. Replacing with domestics will shift things somewhat.

    Then, the Trump loan idea is great. Colleges have to help pay back loans that go bad. That will shift us to renumerative fields and also away from affirmative action. Only the richest schools will be able to do AA. An extension would be to make colleges have skin in the game for Pell Grants- they have to pay the government back if graduates don't have jobs or something like that.

    These things could start shifting universities back from the crazy marxist edge.

    Replies: @CCZ, @27 year old, @Almost Missouri, @Jim Don Bob, @RonaldB

    Mostly agree. The two political things corrupting academia are:

    1) the Griggs v. Duke Power decision and related decisions/laws/regs/policies that make academic degrees de facto employment prerequisites, and

    2) the deluge of federal money mainly via student loans.

    The first has diverted millions of people into the academic machine that neither need it nor are needed by the academy. The second has financed this diversion and made the academy financially dependent on something that is unnecessary and even contrary to its purpose.

    Maybe a saner Supreme Court could overturn Duke, maybe Congress. Others who are better informed legally can speculate. The encircling weeds of laws/regs/policies need to be cleared too though. It’s not a silver bullet fix. And I’ll guarantee the Left will oppose this clean-up every step of the way. It’s just what they do.

    Your proposals for cleaning up the student loan scam may work. The Fed just turning off the spigot would work too. They won’t do it voluntarily though. Like many things nowadays, I think it may only be resolved by a massive currency collapse, which of course will have many other … um …. effects.

    • Replies: @Joe Schmoe
    @Almost Missouri

    Also, fewer middle and working class families send their kids to parochial schools because of the cost of saving for college. That gives the progressives many more years to indoctrinate the kiddos even before they get to college.

  107. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    Take it easy on that frail, diseased old lady unaccountably running for the presidency of Earth's most powerful nation -- it's clear she has significant, perhaps severe neurological problems.

    She can't stand longer than a few minutes and needs the assistance of at least two stout men flanking her at all times.

    She has seizures brought on by stress, heat, loud noises, and bright lights.

    She has uncontrolled coughing attacks that last several minutes.

    She undoubtedly qualifies for (and probably receives) Social Security disability.

    It was HER TURN in 2008, when she was in better health, but had her coronation stolen from her by a magic negro (TM).

    Her husband has humiliated her repeatedly, in public.

    What a pathetic creature. And what a pathetic nation that this is the best the Democratic Party could do.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Her husband has humiliated her repeatedly, in public.

    She’s the Nixon of Sex, in covering up his crimes. If she was being a good wife, then Nixon was being too good a boss.

    One important difference: neither the crimes of 1972 nor their subsequent cover-up involved the threat of violence.

  108. @Anoni
    @CCZ

    Yes, but the right Justices could overturn that. And Congress could amend Title VII. Its something that would pass under the radar but would undermine the power of academia.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    It’s simpler than that. Congress could pass a law allowing IQ tests and stipulate that the law is not subject to judicial review.

    It’s in the Constitution.

    • Replies: @guest
    @Bill Jones

    That is definitely not in the Constitution. Anyway, the official position of Official Judicial/Legal Theory has it that judicial review is inherent in due process. Good luck getting that out of the Constitution.

    Replies: @Federalist

    , @ben tillman
    @Bill Jones


    It’s simpler than that. Congress could pass a law allowing IQ tests and stipulate that the law is not subject to judicial review.
     
    Of course, Congress could do that, but it would be pointless. The Constitution's "Supremacy Clause" necessitates judicial review of every statute.

    Replies: @guest, @Federalist

  109. @Cletus Rothschild
    @tyrone

    Wow. Despite how any of us feels about this movement, how can anyone claim that the loss of a son is worth whatever subsequent "rewards" one receives afterward? And this "fame" and "worship" will not last, nor will it be all that rewarding in the end.

    Replies: @Federalist, @Olorin

    I’m sure that commenter tyrone did not mean that he would personally think it is worth it to lose a son for the money, fame, and worship that comes with having your son killed by a cop.

    But I think that the actual mammas of these thugs probably think that it’s worth it. They generally don’t really give a damn about their kids anyway. They usually have several different baby-daddies. If a woman cares about her children at all, she would be very selective about the father of her children. They don’t make the least effort to provide a stable life for their children. These so-called mothers could work hard, get the hell out of the hood, and not put out until they find a man with a job with a reasonable chance of sticking around to raise his children. (There are black men around like that.) The mothers can make sure that their children, especially their sons, try hard in school, get a decent education and stay out of trouble. (This assumes that they have gotten out of the ghetto.) Around here, we like to talk about IQ. So no, these kids probably won’t end up going to Harvard or being brain surgeons, but they can manage to grow up without getting shot by the cops (or by black criminals in the hood) and live a decent life.

    You’re right. The fame and worship won’t last. But you are giving way to much credit to the ghetto lottery winners if you think that they are concerned in the least. They have either almost no ability or no desire to pan or think ahead.

  110. @Ed
    @Marie

    Trayvon's dad was very involved in his son's life. You can tell his affection for him through pics. He often broke down during interviews whereas I don't recall his mother doing that. The reason he was staying with his dad was he was getting into a lot of trouble in Miami.

    Personally I think Trayvon was up to his old tricks, casing homes for future burglaries when Zimmerman stumbled upon him.

    Replies: @I, Libertine

    A phrase comes to my mind when I think of the kid who would look like Obama’s kid if one of Obama’s kids was a boy: “the exception that proves the rule.”

  111. http://www.vdare.com/posts/the-forgotten-barbara-jordan-commission-on-immigration Trump should use the late Black Democrat Representative Barbara Jordan as a wedge to pop over Hillary’s head in the upcoming debate. Wedges can be subtle and insinuative or you can use the thin edge as a handle to hammer your opponent. Trump can denounce the Black Lives Matter rioters and then state that US government immigration policy is harming Black workers. This will signal to White voters that he will strongly side with Black Americans when it is warranted. Trump can say that Bill Clinton himself called for Barbara Jordan to take a thorough look at US immigration policy. The Jordan Commission recommended that legal immigration should be reduced and that illegal immigration should be stopped cold. Trump will have to acknowledge that he has used foreign worker visas to staff some of his businesses. Trump can say that he played by the rules as they stood at the time, but that the US government’s immigration policy going forward must favor the interests of US workers first.

  112. @Perspective
    Many of the rioters believe that the cop who shot the man is white. No doubt had the police officer been white, we would hear the oft-repeated statement we've become so accustomed to hearing: "a white police officer shot a black man." Not that the facts matter much to the rent a mob crowd anyway. According to one legal expert (forgot who) being interviewed on CNN, as many as 70 percent of the people arrested have been from out of state.

    Replies: @jack ryan, @Forbes

    Do any of these out of state rioters who arrested, do they ever get prosecuted?

    The Antifa, BLM folks pretty much get away with anything in and around Chicago

  113. @Anon
    Hillary probably thinks the way Obama does about black riots. They 'help her' by keeping blacks riled up, and she's hoping they'll turn out to vote for her instead of staying home, assisted by whites rather like my boneheaded liberal relatives. My mother and father were both carrying on about how horrible the shooting of this poor black guy was, who was just minding his own business reading a book. I pointed out the cops said the guy had a gun, not a book, and that he had an extensive criminal history, but they were not willing to listen or consider the facts. Hillary knows her supporters well.

    Hillary wants Trayvon II all over the media to pick up her sagging poll numbers. Trying to terrorize your way into the White House is an unusual step, but then Hillary is Livia Drusilla all over. She's a figure right out of ancient Rome at its most corrupt.

    At least when Lyndon Johnson bombed people and failed to win in Vietnam, he had enough grace to decide not to run for the presidency again because he thought that made him unelectable. Even though Hillary has dropped bombs all over the Middle East and screwed up a whole long string of governments, leaving us with scarcely an ally over there, she does not think that way.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Jefferson, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Steve from Detroit

    The first part of your comment was spot on, and I especially sympathize with your having “boneheaded liberal relatives.” Outside of my immediate family, my relatives could out-liberal the ACLU. The second part of your comment on Hillary having no shame about her past abject failures is also spot on, and it works not only for all Democrats but even many Republicans.

    I, however, implore you to reconsider the analogy with LBJ. Describing LBJ as having “enough grace” strikes me as borderline farcical. He exhibited the antithesis of grace or class. There was so much dirt on him, he knew he would never make it through another term.

  114. @Anoni
    @Jason Liu

    I posted something similar on another blog but more useful here. One of the things we must do is directly challenge the university marxism.

    The first step is to legalize IQ tests for employment, universities get a lot of market power by being the quasi IQ test. LEgalize that and we (I am a prof) will have to compete and show people are learning something. Various ethnicity studies X majors won't get any lift from the college degree as IQ test effect. I suspect those majors would add very little to employment opportunities in a world with IQ tests.

    Second, don't let Unis get away with hiring as many foreigners as we want. Every hiring process I have been in (~10) there have been perfectly qualified domestics ranked below foreigners. (Sometimes domestics got the job after foreigners turned it down.) All you need is a decent minimum salary around 120k. Universities can only afford that with superstars and thats fine.

    International profs dominating departments means saying anything conservative, much less anti immigration or pro European, is very uncomfortable and will likely get complaints to the dean about you creating a bad work environment. Replacing with domestics will shift things somewhat.

    Then, the Trump loan idea is great. Colleges have to help pay back loans that go bad. That will shift us to renumerative fields and also away from affirmative action. Only the richest schools will be able to do AA. An extension would be to make colleges have skin in the game for Pell Grants- they have to pay the government back if graduates don't have jobs or something like that.

    These things could start shifting universities back from the crazy marxist edge.

    Replies: @CCZ, @27 year old, @Almost Missouri, @Jim Don Bob, @RonaldB

    Here (http://www.aei.org/publication/decentralization-deference-and-the-administrative-state/) is a good article about what can be done to rein in the administrative state. I am not as hopeful as Wallison.

    The writer Decius also said in his Flight 93 Election article (http://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election/) that the administrative state is the greatest threat to our liberty because it is unaccountable. This is a feature as far as the left is concerned.

  115. @reiner Tor
    @Jack Hanson

    But he did get the Pour le Mérite.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    I’m talking about something when he was a junior officer, so he took his troops over the Alps and captured a shit ton of Italians.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Jack Hanson

    Oh OK, you're probably correct.

  116. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Really intrigued by the out of town arrest rate during recent events in Charlotte. I wonder what it would take to clarify what the out of town rates were during other recent protests. I know of at least one unemployed SJW who made it to Ferguson, MO ‘to support the protests’ – always wondered where he got the funds for the travel.

  117. @Bill P
    @Arclight

    I'm sympathetic to blacks, too, because I was manhandled on a few occasions by the cops as a "youth" myself.

    The problem is that the overwhelming majority of young black men - and probably a majority of young white men - don't fit into the new urban paradigm, which is largely defined by aging, propertied white baby boomers and docile minorities. Most blacks are a poor fit for it, yet there they are.

    Young white men who don't fit in just leave the city and get a job in a majority white community where their work is valued. Take white veterans for example. How many would you find in upscale urban centers? Very few, but if you leave town and drive for about fifteen minutes they're all over.

    Blacks don't have that option for a number of reasons. One of the main reasons being that blue collar work requires certification and demonstrable literacy. Your average young black male has neither the skills nor the squeaky clean record required for decent paying non-college jobs. He's stuck in the city with no prospects and he adheres to a culture that is, if not entirely criminalized, rife with infractions at every turn.

    Blacks are getting squeezed from pretty much every direction, and as the Obama presidency proves even their political supporters don't have the will or ability to find a workable solution. They'll just propose more programs and regulations, squeezing them harder and harder thereby guaranteeing periodic outbursts of violence.

    Thomas Jefferson was right about the blacks. They need to go their own way, and we need to leave them alone and free to do so. They can't be white, and they don't want to be. I don't blame them for that.

    Replies: @unpc downunder, @Ed, @AnotherDad

    Good comment Bill.

    Blacks don’t have that option for a number of reasons. One of the main reasons being that blue collar work requires certification and demonstrable literacy.

    The main reason is certainly their long evolutionary history in tropical Africa and the average set of mental traits that’s the evolutionary product of that.

    However, there are two correctable problems:

    1) Mass low-skill immigration which has brought essentially an unlimited supply of higher quality low skilled labor into competition with blacks.

    and

    2) The normalization and promotion of black non-compliance–with white norms, with any authority, heck with anyone–as authentically “black” and “keeping it real”. Essentially promoting their own separateness from white\mainstream society.

    Both of these things were significantly better and hence the prospects of blacks to “integrate” actually looked significantly better back when i was a pup–the bad old days of say 1960–then they are now. And both those things are highly promoted by the “left”, the Democratic party.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @AnotherDad


    2) The normalization and promotion of black non-compliance–with white norms, with any authority, heck with anyone–as authentically “black” and “keeping it real”.
     
    With blacks voting upwards of 90% for the party of our (almost exclusively white) ruling class, I'd say they're following white norms better than whites are. Maybe we should look at those norms and those rulers. We might find some strange bedfellows willing to do likewise.
  118. @Anonymous
    Steve, you've blogged before about how Trump is sort of naturally driven by personal feuding, which made him a natural and eager fit for his appearances on WWE. I think you're right about that, and the following claim seems highly plausible to me:

    "Did Trump decide to run when Obama mocked him as a birther conspiracy theorist at White House dinner?"

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3802949/Did-Trump-decide-run-Obama-mocked-birther-conspiracy-theorist-White-House-dinner.html

    " Donald Trump ally Roger Stone suggested Trump decided to run for president after the 2011 White House Correspondents' Dinner
    Stone, speaking in a new Frontline documentary, said Trump was 'motivated' by President Obama jabs during a comedy routine
    The president made fun of Trump for peddling the 'birther' conspiracy theory and for his job as a reality TV host
    'These are the kinds of decisions that keep me up at night,' sniffed Obama, talking about which D-lister to throw off Trump's show 'The Apprentice'"

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Yep, @Forbes

    Until the Dem party anointed him in 2004, Obama, then with two part-time jobs, hadn’t even risen to the level of the D-list. Obama really makes a habit of exposing his insecurities.

  119. @Perspective
    Many of the rioters believe that the cop who shot the man is white. No doubt had the police officer been white, we would hear the oft-repeated statement we've become so accustomed to hearing: "a white police officer shot a black man." Not that the facts matter much to the rent a mob crowd anyway. According to one legal expert (forgot who) being interviewed on CNN, as many as 70 percent of the people arrested have been from out of state.

    Replies: @jack ryan, @Forbes

    To the ghetto crowds and rioters, the race of the cop who did the shooting doesn’t matter–or make a difference. All cops are blue, and form the occupying, oppositional army (or the biggest gang in the ‘hood). The race/ethnicity of the cop is a distinction without a difference (just ask any black cop working in the inner city).

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Forbes

    "To the ghetto crowds and rioters, the race of the cop who did the shooting doesn’t matter–or make a difference."

    A Black cop murders a Black thug, so why did these Mulignans in Charlotte take out their anger on a White guy? Not only that he is not even a police officer.
    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/shock-video-homeless-white-man-attacked-charlotte-agitators/

    Riots are Mulignans excuse to physically attack White people, steal electronics, steal junk food, steal weaves, and steal Air Jordan sneakers. There is no social political message behind it, it's just pure thuggery.

  120. @Harry Baldwin
    @AnotherGuessModel

    (which means white supremacist, racist, anti-Semitic)

    I thought if you were tarred as a "white supremacist," the "racist" was assumed. Also, where's "sexist, homophobe, and Islamaphobe"? I believe it's a complete package, not a "pick one from column A, two from column B" kinda deal.

    Replies: @Forbes

    I usually endorse the whole panoply of deplorables when the subject comes up. No sense leaving anything off your curriculum vitae.

  121. I realize the left doesn’t have the desire for logical coherence–or just having their ideas make at least a little bit of sense–that guys like i do. (I they did mass immigration couldn’t be in their list as it’s at odds with pretty much everything else–jobs, income inequality, upward mobility, women’s rights, LGBT nonsense, the environment, global warming, “smart growth”, sustainability–that they babble on about.)

    Still exactly why is Trayvon’s mom a “mother of the movement”? Zimmerman was never a cop.

    So the movement is really about the right for young blacks to coldcock “whites” then proceed to smack their heads into concrete without getting shot?

    Good to know!

  122. @Harry Baldwin
    @Anonymous

    Donald is going to LOVE having Obama hand the keys to the White House over to him. I'm sure he'll get a little dig in, something like, "Hey, now that I'm president, I'm going to have the CIA locate your actual birth certificate and academic records. I'm really looking forward to reading them."

    Replies: @wren, @Intelligent Dasein, @Mr. Anon, @Forbes

    I actually imagine Trump will feign complete indifference towards Obama, while Trump’s fingerprints remain absent from any paper trail of disclosure about Obama. We’ve become so accustomed to Obama blaming Bush for everything adverse under the sun that we can’t imagine another president doing otherwise.

    I can see Trump doing it the Francis Urquhart way (original “House of Cards”): “You might very well think that; I couldn’t possibly comment.”

  123. @Anonymous
    Echoing the baseball is a white man's game theme you posted about last week:

    "Mariners catcher says all people involved with Black Lives Matter movement should be 'locked behind bars like animals'"

    http://www.businessinsider.com/mariners-catcher-steve-clevenger-black-lives-matters-people-animals-2016-9

    The Seattle Mariners have issued a statement expressing disappointment in tweets that came from the account of catcher Steve Clevenger that strongly suggest that people involved with the "Black Lives Matter" movement should be treated like animals.

    Clevenger, who has been sidelined with an injury since late June, issued two tweets on Thursday afternoon. In the first he comments on a police-involved shooting while mocking people who kneel during the national anthem. In the second he calls for people involved in the Black Lives Movement to be "locked behind bars like animals."
     

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Forbes

    Demonstrating for all, Twitter is for twits.

  124. @AnotherDad
    @Bill P

    Good comment Bill.


    Blacks don’t have that option for a number of reasons. One of the main reasons being that blue collar work requires certification and demonstrable literacy.
     
    The main reason is certainly their long evolutionary history in tropical Africa and the average set of mental traits that's the evolutionary product of that.

    However, there are two correctable problems:

    1) Mass low-skill immigration which has brought essentially an unlimited supply of higher quality low skilled labor into competition with blacks.

    and

    2) The normalization and promotion of black non-compliance--with white norms, with any authority, heck with anyone--as authentically "black" and "keeping it real". Essentially promoting their own separateness from white\mainstream society.

    Both of these things were significantly better and hence the prospects of blacks to "integrate" actually looked significantly better back when i was a pup--the bad old days of say 1960--then they are now. And both those things are highly promoted by the "left", the Democratic party.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    2) The normalization and promotion of black non-compliance–with white norms, with any authority, heck with anyone–as authentically “black” and “keeping it real”.

    With blacks voting upwards of 90% for the party of our (almost exclusively white) ruling class, I’d say they’re following white norms better than whites are. Maybe we should look at those norms and those rulers. We might find some strange bedfellows willing to do likewise.

  125. @Lot
    We know what happens when riots like this happen during a competitive election campaign, we have the Nixon-Humphrey 1968 election.

    I'll have to hand it to my parents' and grandparents' generations, I think both the original Nixon and the late 60's new left are better than the new ones.

    The two symbols of my generation's decadence is that Nixon and Humphrey were distinguished war veterans from middle class backgrounds (as were Ike, McGovern, Carter, Dole) while Hillary sits on a tawdry $100 million fortune but looks like a bum compared to Trump's inherited/scammed fortune.

    Replies: @Broski, @The Man From K Street

    The two symbols of my generation’s decadence is that Nixon and Humphrey were distinguished war veterans from middle class backgrounds

    Actually Humphrey stayed a civilian throughout World War II–he was 4-F. Amazing isn’t it–there were something like 20 million WW2 vets who voted in that election, 50 million if you count spouses and children, and hardly anybody raised a stink about “chickenhawks” or “where was Hubert?”.

  126. Keith’s wife just released a video of her husband’s shooting. Pretty much favors the cops’ account in every respect.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/24/us/charlotte-keith-scott-shooting-video.html

    Many are having a hard time remembering (even though it happened just a few days ago) that the riots started because of the lie that he was carrying a book, not a gun.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic commenter
    @J1234

    Seems they are making much of the claim that he was not pointing a weapon at the cops, but it must be remembered:

    By the time he is pointing a weapon at the cops, it is too late, because one or more of them will be close to dead.

    Why is that? It takes on more 0.5 seconds for someone to perceive that an action has been taken and to then fire their own gun. In that time, Scott could have raised any weapon, pointed it and fired two shots.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @J1234

    These morons are not even smart enough to come up with a good lie. Someone -might- have believed that a multiply-convicted felon was sitting in his car watching porn or the NFL on his phone, but reading a book! C'mon, man!

    , @Chris Mallory
    @J1234

    Her video put the cops in even worse light. The 3-4 cops who started the assault were all in plain clothes. They were wearing tactical vests with police on the back, but there did not appear to be any markings on the front. Those cops were not in marked vehicles. A uniformed cop did show up, but it doesn't look like he did much to get the situation under control. So this guy was sitting in his truck minding his own business when 3-4 steroid addicted thugs rushed him, all of them screaming contradictory orders that would be impossible to follow. Any reasonable person would attempt to defend themselves. This was a murder pure and simple.

    Replies: @utu, @The most deplorable one, @J1234

  127. @Arclight
    John McWhorter, who I generally respect, has a piece that touches on the tension blacks feel towards the police in Time: http://time.com/4504014/colin-kaepernick-kneel/.

    I am somewhat sympathetic to this in that many black people are treated with suspicion they do not deserve - but on the flipside, it's a product of the much higher rates of criminality in that segment of America. And while being sensitive to McWhorter's point, it ignores the fact that black criminality has a hugely destructive effect on the communities in which this problem is concentrated, and non-blacks have a legitimate interest in wanting to see this social problem suppressed as much as it can be through law enforcement.

    At the end of the day, it was a depressing read because it illustrates how different parts of the nation are just talking past each other because there is no reconciling their different viewpoints on this issue.

    Replies: @neutral, @The most deplorable one, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Bill P, @Yep, @Lurker, @anon, @jake, @Brutusale

    Do you know any poor whites from the wrong side of the tracks?

    I worked with some in my youth during my time as a club bouncer. They all had the same distrust/dislike of cops as any Dindu. They all had experience with “The System”. The essential difference is that they knew they’d get dropped like 4th period Latin if they even blinked ugly at law enforcement. Cops, black, white or other, will think twice before drawing down on a black perp. With a white, the have no compunctions at all.

    • Replies: @jake
    @Brutusale

    Exactly. Bad whites know they are not sacred cows. They know that if they act up too much, their heads will get cracked. Bad blacks know the world is their oyster because: racism

    Replies: @Joe Schmoe

    , @Bill Jones
    @Brutusale

    "Do you know any poor whites from the wrong side of the tracks?"

    I was one and slept on many park benches until I decided in my late teens that the combination of a dead mother and a violent alcoholic father should not be definitive.

    Of course, finding out that I've got this numbers thingie that banks were willing to pay six figures for back in the early '80's didn't hurt.

  128. @Anoni
    @Jason Liu

    I posted something similar on another blog but more useful here. One of the things we must do is directly challenge the university marxism.

    The first step is to legalize IQ tests for employment, universities get a lot of market power by being the quasi IQ test. LEgalize that and we (I am a prof) will have to compete and show people are learning something. Various ethnicity studies X majors won't get any lift from the college degree as IQ test effect. I suspect those majors would add very little to employment opportunities in a world with IQ tests.

    Second, don't let Unis get away with hiring as many foreigners as we want. Every hiring process I have been in (~10) there have been perfectly qualified domestics ranked below foreigners. (Sometimes domestics got the job after foreigners turned it down.) All you need is a decent minimum salary around 120k. Universities can only afford that with superstars and thats fine.

    International profs dominating departments means saying anything conservative, much less anti immigration or pro European, is very uncomfortable and will likely get complaints to the dean about you creating a bad work environment. Replacing with domestics will shift things somewhat.

    Then, the Trump loan idea is great. Colleges have to help pay back loans that go bad. That will shift us to renumerative fields and also away from affirmative action. Only the richest schools will be able to do AA. An extension would be to make colleges have skin in the game for Pell Grants- they have to pay the government back if graduates don't have jobs or something like that.

    These things could start shifting universities back from the crazy marxist edge.

    Replies: @CCZ, @27 year old, @Almost Missouri, @Jim Don Bob, @RonaldB

    I really like the direction of your solution. You’re proposing a systemic, rather than administrative or forced, solution to a problem.

    Several comments have noted that the Griggs v. Duke Power decision would forbid the use of IQ tests. In fact, Congress has the power to strip the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court from any area of legislation. Who knows what is possible if a Republican Congress and President are elected?

    You would also have to do away with the fiction of affirmative action. Blacks and other non-Asian minorities would obviously be seriously under-represented in any employment area employing IQ tests. I would speculate the reinstating the concept of private property and freedom of association might actually benefit some blacks. If companies are allowed to use IQ tests, but not required to do so (because of having to objectively justify their hiring decisions), they might look at non-IQ factors, such as honesty, work ethic, perseverance, etc that might lead them to hire a minority who is not the next in line on a strict IQ basis.

    • Replies: @guest
    @RonaldB

    Original jurisdiction, yes. But SCOTUS has appellate jurisdiction over everything under the sun. If they didn't, SCOTUS would just tell Congress to "Sit down, little boy. Fundamental freedoms, and so forth," anyway. Who would stop them? Federal regulators don't need Congress to go after employers. They need money, obviously, but when did Congress ever use the power of the purse against their executive overlords on anything that truly mattered?

    No, no, no. SCOTUS has the prestige, the civil service has the real power.

  129. @Whiskey
    I don't see how the Riots in Charlotte hurts Hillary. And when, not if they spread, to other parts of the nation, I wouldn't think it would hurt Dems at all.

    Its not 1968; the demographics make Whites a functional minority here already. The majority of infants born last year were non-White. Anti-White riots, which is what the Charlotte riots and BLM riots in general, appeal to not just Blacks, but other non-Whites liking the domination displays that Black rioters engage in; and figuring their turn for dominance over Whites is coming as well.

    Anti-White riots turn out not just Black voters, but Hispanic ones, eager to see more opportunities for looting as in the Rodney King riots, and even Asian ones. Sure, Korean and Vietnamese shop owners don't like being looted, but every other non-White just salivates at the idea of kicking out Joe White guy from his job and taking it.

    And the loss of majority home ownership among Whites makes the incentives different. Homeowners are allergic to riots, non-homeowners tend to be roughly indifferent. Certainly the London Riots where Whites were famously forced to strip by hulking and low IQ Black rioters helped ... elect Saddiq Khan. UKIP has only 1 MP; and Labor is full on loony anti-White left, with no end in sight.

    Of course, those with property will defend what they have, which is often damn little. A billionaire can write off the loss of a multi-million dollar yacht, or a villa. Joe Average with $100K in equity in his house will fight and die for it; and kill for it. This will not end well; a Cold Civil War can turn RED HOT in an instant -- general Black burning, looting, and home invasion of suburbs as Hillary! seeks every bit of advantage. It might get her both elected. And end the US as a nation.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Jack ryan, @Jack Hanson

    Nah

    Look what happened after the Black Rodney King riots in LA.

    Black mayor Tom Bradley replaced by White Republican, Blacks have been basically put down , ethnically cleansed from Southern California.

    Asian and Arab merchants don t like rioting Blacks

  130. @Brutusale
    @Arclight

    Do you know any poor whites from the wrong side of the tracks?

    I worked with some in my youth during my time as a club bouncer. They all had the same distrust/dislike of cops as any Dindu. They all had experience with "The System". The essential difference is that they knew they'd get dropped like 4th period Latin if they even blinked ugly at law enforcement. Cops, black, white or other, will think twice before drawing down on a black perp. With a white, the have no compunctions at all.

    Replies: @jake, @Bill Jones

    Exactly. Bad whites know they are not sacred cows. They know that if they act up too much, their heads will get cracked. Bad blacks know the world is their oyster because: racism

    • Replies: @Joe Schmoe
    @jake


    Bad blacks know the world is their oyster because: racism
     
    Seems like they demand it be their oyster because racism, but the police keep shooting them and other blacks really keep shooting them.
  131. @gda
    @Olorin

    She will most certainly be acquitted of manslaughter given the circumstances. Suspect continually disobeys police instructions, walks away to his vehicle, shrugs off a taser, continues to the vehicle and seems to reach in the back window, whereupon the female cop shoots him.

    Doesn't matter if he was just reaching for a toothpick. That was the green light as far as police procedure is concerned.

    As far as the Charlotte fiasco is concerned, Ingram is right - get the cameras out of there and everyone loses interest and goes home. If they don't, give them a final warning, then send in the gendarmes to crack a few heads. It's what Rudy would do.

    Replies: @Tim Howells, @Chris Mallory, @Olorin

    It’s gonna get really costly really fast if every last cop–white but also other–has to undergo the Racial Orthodoxy auto-da-fe of being charged with manslaughter for shooting within the ROEs someone who acts and reacts as you described.

    OTOH I guess that involves transferring your and my wages and savings and taxes to the Benjamin Crumps. Which is super-mega-economy-size Social Justice and Repamarations, eh?

    You and Tim recall this to my mind:

  132. @AnotherGuessModel
    Your Trump-punk rock analogy got you a namecheck in Douthat's column the other day. Did you catch this comment by one Don B in NYC?

    [It] appears to me that the NYT has crossed a moral rubicon that I find very disturbing. "Mr. Douthat writes, "The alt-right-ish columnist xxxxx xxxxx made the punk rock analogy as well." I used x's because I, unlike Mr. Douthat, will not give any oxygen to the name of an "alt-right-ish" writer. I'm wondering how an alt-right, (which means white supremacist, racist, anti-Semitic), -ish writer earns the right to be quoted by a NYT columnist.

    Lord Voldemort status of evil. He Who Must Not Be Named. You could troll this guy and the NYT by responding, I can't breathe.

    Replies: @anon, @Harry Baldwin, @Anonymous

    Steve, you’ve made it!

  133. @Almost Missouri
    @Anoni

    Mostly agree. The two political things corrupting academia are:

    1) the Griggs v. Duke Power decision and related decisions/laws/regs/policies that make academic degrees de facto employment prerequisites, and

    2) the deluge of federal money mainly via student loans.

    The first has diverted millions of people into the academic machine that neither need it nor are needed by the academy. The second has financed this diversion and made the academy financially dependent on something that is unnecessary and even contrary to its purpose.

    Maybe a saner Supreme Court could overturn Duke, maybe Congress. Others who are better informed legally can speculate. The encircling weeds of laws/regs/policies need to be cleared too though. It's not a silver bullet fix. And I'll guarantee the Left will oppose this clean-up every step of the way. It's just what they do.

    Your proposals for cleaning up the student loan scam may work. The Fed just turning off the spigot would work too. They won't do it voluntarily though. Like many things nowadays, I think it may only be resolved by a massive currency collapse, which of course will have many other ... um .... effects.

    Replies: @Joe Schmoe

    Also, fewer middle and working class families send their kids to parochial schools because of the cost of saving for college. That gives the progressives many more years to indoctrinate the kiddos even before they get to college.

  134. @CCZ
    @Anoni

    Regarding "legalize IQ tests for employment," perhaps unlikely to happen because of Griggs Vs Duke Power, which prohibits employment tests (when used as a decisive factor in employment decisions) that are not a "reasonable measure of job performance."


    The Supreme Court ruled that under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, if such tests disparately impact ethnic minority groups, businesses must demonstrate that such tests are "reasonably related" to the job for which the test is required. As such, Title VII of the Civil Rights Act prohibits employment tests (when used as a decisive factor in employment decisions) that are not a "reasonable measure of job performance," regardless of the absence of actual intent to discriminate. Since the aptitude tests involved, and the high school diploma requirement, were broad-based and not directly related to the jobs performed, Duke Power's employee transfer procedure was found by the Court to be in violation of the Act.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griggs_v._Duke_Power_Co.

    Replies: @Anoni, @Joe Schmoe

    Regarding “legalize IQ tests for employment,” perhaps unlikely to happen because of Griggs Vs Duke Power, which prohibits employment tests (when used as a decisive factor in employment decisions) that are not a “reasonable measure of job performance.”

    However, they can give the tests and then not use them as a decisive factor in employment. Rather they can hold them and wait and see if the job performance has a strong correlation to the test scores. If so, then they can establish that the tests do predict performance.

    • Replies: @guest
    @Joe Schmoe

    Do you think the tests collating with actual performance would make a difference? As if social science and the judicial establishment will throw their hands up and admit, "Yup, you got us!" Let me tell you, intelligence tests are outlawed precisely because they are useful in hiring, and everybody knows it.

  135. @Ed
    @Bill P

    The best suggestion I've heard in the last ten years to address this problem was from a Buffalo area Republican congressman. He said that the unemployed black men in buffalo should be setup to work in area fields at a decent wage $15 an hour I believe. That's probably ambitious. At any rate he was denounced as racist and walked it back.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Joe Schmoe

    The best suggestion I’ve heard in the last ten years to address this problem was from a Buffalo area Republican congressman. He said that the unemployed black men in buffalo should be setup to work in area fields at a decent wage $15 an hour I believe. That’s probably ambitious. At any rate he was denounced as racist and walked it back.

    I would guess he was denounced by the owners of said fields who 1) don’t wish to pay $15/hr. and 2) know that blacks are more dangerous and less productive than hispanics and whites.

  136. I think HRC sending her people to Charlotte before the rioting indicates her perceptiveness, her ingenuity, and her aggressiveness in dealing with opportunities. These are desirable qualities in a leader.

  137. Still not buying the “liberals broke blacks” argument. Reversion to the mean is the rule, and that’s what happened. They may have helped hasten the process, or not done enough to delay it.

    Obviously I’m fine with using it rhetorically.

    • Replies: @melendwyr
    @Svigor

    Perhaps we can say that liberals 'took the safeties off'. The potential danger is inherent, but the protective and preventative mechanisms were disengaged.

  138. He was actually linking to reports that cars were being stopped on the highway by rioters and their occupants were in danger.

    Hmm. How do I wonder aloud how rioters can “stop” cars on the highway, without using the trigger phrase, “run them down.”

    It’s a delicate matter. I think I’ll just say that rioters stopping me in my car on a highway is going to be a matter of physics, one not limited by (my) psychology, and leave it at that.

  139. @Tiny Duck
    Clinton will win a landslide.

    Trumps supporters consist of fools who think there is racism against whites and that blacks don't face racism

    Replies: @ic1000, @Louis Renault

    Clinton will win a landslide.

    It doesnt matter how many people vote, only who counts them.”

    ― Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin

  140. @unpc downunder
    @Bill P

    "Your average young black male has neither the skills nor the squeaky clean record required for decent paying non-college jobs."

    A lot of low skilled jobs now require having a well documented work history. For example, its hard to get work as an airport baggage handler an inner city security guard without good references, even though the work itself isn't very demanding in terms or skills or IQ.

    Replies: @guest

    How do illegal aliens get jobs, then? Not only do they have no work history, or only recent work history, they could have been serial killers in their home country for all a potential employer knows. There’s something else going on with blacks.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @guest

    "How do illegal aliens get jobs, then? Not only do they have no work history, or only recent work history, they could have been serial killers in their home country for all a potential employer knows. There’s something else going on with blacks."

    What is that something else that is going on with Blacks?

    Replies: @guest, @anon

  141. Does anyone know of a comparison of the number of deaths/assaults for BLM compared to the KKK over the past 2 years? It would seem to be an interesting point of comparison.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @JosephD

    Read Unz's piece on the KKK

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-kkk-and-mass-racial-killings/

    Replies: @JosephD

  142. @J1234
    Keith's wife just released a video of her husband's shooting. Pretty much favors the cops' account in every respect.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/24/us/charlotte-keith-scott-shooting-video.html

    Many are having a hard time remembering (even though it happened just a few days ago) that the riots started because of the lie that he was carrying a book, not a gun.

    Replies: @Peripatetic commenter, @Jim Don Bob, @Chris Mallory

    Seems they are making much of the claim that he was not pointing a weapon at the cops, but it must be remembered:

    By the time he is pointing a weapon at the cops, it is too late, because one or more of them will be close to dead.

    Why is that? It takes on more 0.5 seconds for someone to perceive that an action has been taken and to then fire their own gun. In that time, Scott could have raised any weapon, pointed it and fired two shots.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    @Peripatetic commenter

    Does not matter. Cops are paid to take those risks. If officer safety is more important than the life of a citizen, then that government employee needs to quit and find honest work. Possession of a firearm by a citizen should never give the government employees free reign to shoot the citizen, PERIOD. Cops work for us, we are the masters and they are the servants.

    Replies: @JerryC

  143. @Brutusale
    @Arclight

    Do you know any poor whites from the wrong side of the tracks?

    I worked with some in my youth during my time as a club bouncer. They all had the same distrust/dislike of cops as any Dindu. They all had experience with "The System". The essential difference is that they knew they'd get dropped like 4th period Latin if they even blinked ugly at law enforcement. Cops, black, white or other, will think twice before drawing down on a black perp. With a white, the have no compunctions at all.

    Replies: @jake, @Bill Jones

    “Do you know any poor whites from the wrong side of the tracks?”

    I was one and slept on many park benches until I decided in my late teens that the combination of a dead mother and a violent alcoholic father should not be definitive.

    Of course, finding out that I’ve got this numbers thingie that banks were willing to pay six figures for back in the early ’80’s didn’t hurt.

  144. @JosephD
    Does anyone know of a comparison of the number of deaths/assaults for BLM compared to the KKK over the past 2 years? It would seem to be an interesting point of comparison.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    • Replies: @JosephD
    @Bill Jones

    I've seen UNZ's piece. I get the philosophical point that KKK violence is massively over represented in the media. But I was looking for raw counts of the black on white violence done by BLM vs. KKK. I think that would be a more compelling point to someone who wasn't already a fellow traveler.

    Replies: @Jefferson

  145. @jake
    @Brutusale

    Exactly. Bad whites know they are not sacred cows. They know that if they act up too much, their heads will get cracked. Bad blacks know the world is their oyster because: racism

    Replies: @Joe Schmoe

    Bad blacks know the world is their oyster because: racism

    Seems like they demand it be their oyster because racism, but the police keep shooting them and other blacks really keep shooting them.

  146. @RonaldB
    @Anoni

    I really like the direction of your solution. You're proposing a systemic, rather than administrative or forced, solution to a problem.

    Several comments have noted that the Griggs v. Duke Power decision would forbid the use of IQ tests. In fact, Congress has the power to strip the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court from any area of legislation. Who knows what is possible if a Republican Congress and President are elected?

    You would also have to do away with the fiction of affirmative action. Blacks and other non-Asian minorities would obviously be seriously under-represented in any employment area employing IQ tests. I would speculate the reinstating the concept of private property and freedom of association might actually benefit some blacks. If companies are allowed to use IQ tests, but not required to do so (because of having to objectively justify their hiring decisions), they might look at non-IQ factors, such as honesty, work ethic, perseverance, etc that might lead them to hire a minority who is not the next in line on a strict IQ basis.

    Replies: @guest

    Original jurisdiction, yes. But SCOTUS has appellate jurisdiction over everything under the sun. If they didn’t, SCOTUS would just tell Congress to “Sit down, little boy. Fundamental freedoms, and so forth,” anyway. Who would stop them? Federal regulators don’t need Congress to go after employers. They need money, obviously, but when did Congress ever use the power of the purse against their executive overlords on anything that truly mattered?

    No, no, no. SCOTUS has the prestige, the civil service has the real power.

  147. @J1234
    Keith's wife just released a video of her husband's shooting. Pretty much favors the cops' account in every respect.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/24/us/charlotte-keith-scott-shooting-video.html

    Many are having a hard time remembering (even though it happened just a few days ago) that the riots started because of the lie that he was carrying a book, not a gun.

    Replies: @Peripatetic commenter, @Jim Don Bob, @Chris Mallory

    These morons are not even smart enough to come up with a good lie. Someone -might- have believed that a multiply-convicted felon was sitting in his car watching porn or the NFL on his phone, but reading a book! C’mon, man!

  148. @Prof. Woland
    @Anonymous

    If Donald Trump becomes President he will sit on top of the largest information gathering organization in the world. I have no doubt that either all at once or little by little, Obama's past, which he has spent so much time and resources hiding will get leaked out much to his ever lasting shame. Someday, it will probably be proven that BHO got over promoted just about every step of the way due to affirmative action. It also might be proven that he never registered for selective service and that he wrote all types of atrocious radical dreck in college.

    Obama's birth certificate was just a cap stone or cover story to hide his past. I have heard one long forgotten blogger who I wish I could name refer to it as a McGuffen. When David Axelrod hid Obama's school transcripts, selective service records, medical records, Baptismal records, etc., he used the birth certificate as a poison pill or passive aggressive boobie trap to blow up whoever tried to uncover his past. After all, any one who is interested just cannot accept the legitimacy of the first African American President.

    The only thing more enjoyable than watching President Trump rub Obama's nose in the proverbial cow pie will be watching Obama's supporters gasp when he does it.

    Replies: @27 year old, @melendwyr

    If there was any dirt on Obama, the documentation has probably been destroyed by now.

    • Replies: @Prof. Woland
    @melendwyr

    Then they will have to make something up and leak it.

  149. @Svigor
    Still not buying the "liberals broke blacks" argument. Reversion to the mean is the rule, and that's what happened. They may have helped hasten the process, or not done enough to delay it.

    Obviously I'm fine with using it rhetorically.

    Replies: @melendwyr

    Perhaps we can say that liberals ‘took the safeties off’. The potential danger is inherent, but the protective and preventative mechanisms were disengaged.

  150. @guest
    @unpc downunder

    How do illegal aliens get jobs, then? Not only do they have no work history, or only recent work history, they could have been serial killers in their home country for all a potential employer knows. There's something else going on with blacks.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “How do illegal aliens get jobs, then? Not only do they have no work history, or only recent work history, they could have been serial killers in their home country for all a potential employer knows. There’s something else going on with blacks.”

    What is that something else that is going on with Blacks?

    • Replies: @guest
    @Jefferson

    There is a difference between a lack of history and an apparent bad history. Hey-zeus could've been an armed robber in his home country, you don't know. But if a criminal background check turns up Tyrone's '08 conviction, you know. Ya dig?

    But that's just one thing. What else is wrong with black people, besides criminal records? Unwillingness to work. Recognition of their unfitness for work by potential employers. And so on. I see blacks as being an immeasurably greater discipline risk.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    , @anon
    @Jefferson

    "What is that something else going on with blacks"?

    Hostility, surliness, general incivility, a propensity towards violence, much of it senseless. A general poor work ethic, easily offended, and lack of discipline. Juts my general observations and impressions after over thirty-five years in the work force dealing with blacks.

  151. @J1234
    Keith's wife just released a video of her husband's shooting. Pretty much favors the cops' account in every respect.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/24/us/charlotte-keith-scott-shooting-video.html

    Many are having a hard time remembering (even though it happened just a few days ago) that the riots started because of the lie that he was carrying a book, not a gun.

    Replies: @Peripatetic commenter, @Jim Don Bob, @Chris Mallory

    Her video put the cops in even worse light. The 3-4 cops who started the assault were all in plain clothes. They were wearing tactical vests with police on the back, but there did not appear to be any markings on the front. Those cops were not in marked vehicles. A uniformed cop did show up, but it doesn’t look like he did much to get the situation under control. So this guy was sitting in his truck minding his own business when 3-4 steroid addicted thugs rushed him, all of them screaming contradictory orders that would be impossible to follow. Any reasonable person would attempt to defend themselves. This was a murder pure and simple.

    • Replies: @utu
    @Chris Mallory

    "This was a murder pure and simple." - Police in the US is out of control. Police in plain clothes is worse. They are often high on some drugs.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @eah, @Jefferson

    , @The most deplorable one
    @Chris Mallory

    It seems that Scott has a history of shooting at cops:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/breaking-keith-scott-fired-gun-police-2005/

    , @J1234
    @Chris Mallory


    The 3-4 cops who started the assault were all in plain clothes. They were wearing tactical vests with police on the back, but there did not appear to be any markings on the front.
     
    Yeah, you're right, he had no way of knowing if they were really cops...because white guys pretending to be cops are always going into black housing projects and pulling guns on black felons who aren't allowed to have guns, but have guns anyway. Happens all the time.
  152. @Peripatetic commenter
    @J1234

    Seems they are making much of the claim that he was not pointing a weapon at the cops, but it must be remembered:

    By the time he is pointing a weapon at the cops, it is too late, because one or more of them will be close to dead.

    Why is that? It takes on more 0.5 seconds for someone to perceive that an action has been taken and to then fire their own gun. In that time, Scott could have raised any weapon, pointed it and fired two shots.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory

    Does not matter. Cops are paid to take those risks. If officer safety is more important than the life of a citizen, then that government employee needs to quit and find honest work. Possession of a firearm by a citizen should never give the government employees free reign to shoot the citizen, PERIOD. Cops work for us, we are the masters and they are the servants.

    • Replies: @JerryC
    @Chris Mallory

    Typical spergy libertarianish nonsense with no connection to the real world. If it was as simple as telling cops to stop worrying about their personal safety so much, the problem would have been solved long ago.

  153. @Bill Jones
    @Anoni

    It's simpler than that. Congress could pass a law allowing IQ tests and stipulate that the law is not subject to judicial review.

    It's in the Constitution.

    Replies: @guest, @ben tillman

    That is definitely not in the Constitution. Anyway, the official position of Official Judicial/Legal Theory has it that judicial review is inherent in due process. Good luck getting that out of the Constitution.

    • Replies: @Federalist
    @guest

    Arguably it is in the Constitution. The judicial power is vested in the Supreme Court and inferior courts that Congress establishes. So, every court other than the Supreme Court is established by Congress. The power to establish inferior courts presumably includes the power to limit their jurisdiction. Except in rare instances where the Supreme Court has original jurisdiction, the Constitution gives it appellate jurisdiction "with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make."

    I'm not an expert by any means, but there is some history of jurisdiction stripping by Congress. I don't think it's as simple as implied by the first commenter who brought it up, though. A big problem is that the Supreme Court, for all practical purposes, has unlimited power to interpret its own jurisdiction. If the Supreme Court ruled jurisdiction stripping unconstitutional and assuming for the sake of argument that they were clearly wrong, who could stop them?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  154. @Joe Schmoe
    @CCZ


    Regarding “legalize IQ tests for employment,” perhaps unlikely to happen because of Griggs Vs Duke Power, which prohibits employment tests (when used as a decisive factor in employment decisions) that are not a “reasonable measure of job performance.”
     
    However, they can give the tests and then not use them as a decisive factor in employment. Rather they can hold them and wait and see if the job performance has a strong correlation to the test scores. If so, then they can establish that the tests do predict performance.

    Replies: @guest

    Do you think the tests collating with actual performance would make a difference? As if social science and the judicial establishment will throw their hands up and admit, “Yup, you got us!” Let me tell you, intelligence tests are outlawed precisely because they are useful in hiring, and everybody knows it.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  155. @Jefferson
    @guest

    "How do illegal aliens get jobs, then? Not only do they have no work history, or only recent work history, they could have been serial killers in their home country for all a potential employer knows. There’s something else going on with blacks."

    What is that something else that is going on with Blacks?

    Replies: @guest, @anon

    There is a difference between a lack of history and an apparent bad history. Hey-zeus could’ve been an armed robber in his home country, you don’t know. But if a criminal background check turns up Tyrone’s ’08 conviction, you know. Ya dig?

    But that’s just one thing. What else is wrong with black people, besides criminal records? Unwillingness to work. Recognition of their unfitness for work by potential employers. And so on. I see blacks as being an immeasurably greater discipline risk.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @guest

    Not to mention that they will steal you blind. Walmart closed a local store in a diverse neighborhood saying they couldn't make any money. Wonder why?

  156. @Chris Mallory
    @Peripatetic commenter

    Does not matter. Cops are paid to take those risks. If officer safety is more important than the life of a citizen, then that government employee needs to quit and find honest work. Possession of a firearm by a citizen should never give the government employees free reign to shoot the citizen, PERIOD. Cops work for us, we are the masters and they are the servants.

    Replies: @JerryC

    Typical spergy libertarianish nonsense with no connection to the real world. If it was as simple as telling cops to stop worrying about their personal safety so much, the problem would have been solved long ago.

  157. @Whiskey
    I don't see how the Riots in Charlotte hurts Hillary. And when, not if they spread, to other parts of the nation, I wouldn't think it would hurt Dems at all.

    Its not 1968; the demographics make Whites a functional minority here already. The majority of infants born last year were non-White. Anti-White riots, which is what the Charlotte riots and BLM riots in general, appeal to not just Blacks, but other non-Whites liking the domination displays that Black rioters engage in; and figuring their turn for dominance over Whites is coming as well.

    Anti-White riots turn out not just Black voters, but Hispanic ones, eager to see more opportunities for looting as in the Rodney King riots, and even Asian ones. Sure, Korean and Vietnamese shop owners don't like being looted, but every other non-White just salivates at the idea of kicking out Joe White guy from his job and taking it.

    And the loss of majority home ownership among Whites makes the incentives different. Homeowners are allergic to riots, non-homeowners tend to be roughly indifferent. Certainly the London Riots where Whites were famously forced to strip by hulking and low IQ Black rioters helped ... elect Saddiq Khan. UKIP has only 1 MP; and Labor is full on loony anti-White left, with no end in sight.

    Of course, those with property will defend what they have, which is often damn little. A billionaire can write off the loss of a multi-million dollar yacht, or a villa. Joe Average with $100K in equity in his house will fight and die for it; and kill for it. This will not end well; a Cold Civil War can turn RED HOT in an instant -- general Black burning, looting, and home invasion of suburbs as Hillary! seeks every bit of advantage. It might get her both elected. And end the US as a nation.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Jack ryan, @Jack Hanson

    Do you ever leave your goonfort and interact with real people versus caricatures you invent?

  158. @Bill Jones
    @JosephD

    Read Unz's piece on the KKK

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-kkk-and-mass-racial-killings/

    Replies: @JosephD

    I’ve seen UNZ’s piece. I get the philosophical point that KKK violence is massively over represented in the media. But I was looking for raw counts of the black on white violence done by BLM vs. KKK. I think that would be a more compelling point to someone who wasn’t already a fellow traveler.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @JosephD

    "I’ve seen UNZ’s piece. I get the philosophical point that KKK violence is massively over represented in the media."

    HATE FACT ALERT LIBERALS AND BLACKS RUN TO YOUR SAFE SPACES NOW, in the history of mankind way more people have died from bee stings than have died from the hands of the KKK. The KKK are paper tigers.

  159. @melendwyr
    @Prof. Woland

    If there was any dirt on Obama, the documentation has probably been destroyed by now.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland

    Then they will have to make something up and leak it.

  160. OT

    A helpful heads up for anyone who may live in the area:

    Road closures for DC museum grand opening start Friday night

    Road closures in downtown D.C. will begin as early as 7 p.m. Friday and continue through the weekend for the grand opening of the National Museum of African American History and Culture.

    I’ve heard the new museum is next door to the ‘Great Timing Hall of Fame’.

    In other news:

    Va. woman riding on mattress on top of van dies after fall

    Police believe Sidney Zelaya Gonzalez, of Culpeper, Virginia, and the driver of the van — a 41-year-old woman who has not been identified — were attempting to transport the mattress a short distance when Gonzalez fell and hit the pavement, police said. — here I think “Va. woman” is not used in the eg Martha Washington sense.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @eah

    Are they having BLM members handling the road closures for the grand opening of the National Museum of African American History and Culture? If not, seems like a missed opportunity.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  161. @Jefferson
    @guest

    "How do illegal aliens get jobs, then? Not only do they have no work history, or only recent work history, they could have been serial killers in their home country for all a potential employer knows. There’s something else going on with blacks."

    What is that something else that is going on with Blacks?

    Replies: @guest, @anon

    “What is that something else going on with blacks”?

    Hostility, surliness, general incivility, a propensity towards violence, much of it senseless. A general poor work ethic, easily offended, and lack of discipline. Juts my general observations and impressions after over thirty-five years in the work force dealing with blacks.

  162. @Intelligent Dasein
    The phrase "Mothers of the Movement" is just begging for a scatological send-up.

    Replies: @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @antipater_1, @Camlost

    Mecklenburg County/Charlotte City leans democratic, especially in the areas where these riots are occurring.

  163. @Chris Mallory
    @J1234

    Her video put the cops in even worse light. The 3-4 cops who started the assault were all in plain clothes. They were wearing tactical vests with police on the back, but there did not appear to be any markings on the front. Those cops were not in marked vehicles. A uniformed cop did show up, but it doesn't look like he did much to get the situation under control. So this guy was sitting in his truck minding his own business when 3-4 steroid addicted thugs rushed him, all of them screaming contradictory orders that would be impossible to follow. Any reasonable person would attempt to defend themselves. This was a murder pure and simple.

    Replies: @utu, @The most deplorable one, @J1234

    “This was a murder pure and simple.” – Police in the US is out of control. Police in plain clothes is worse. They are often high on some drugs.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @utu

    Cops in plain clothes contributed to the fiasco that got a teenager shot in my neighborhood six years ago.

    Replies: @The most deplorable one

    , @eah
    @utu

    Police in the US is out of control.

    Exactly how are they "out of control"? -- I mean aside from the numerous instances recently when they've stood by while marauding "protesters" destroyed property and perpetrated violence against people with the wrong skin color.

    , @Jefferson
    @utu

    "Police in the US is out of control."

    How come the police are not out of control in racially homogeneous White countries?

    I blame America's racial demographics before I blame American cops.

    The police in Poland for example do not have to deal with Keith Lamont Scott and Michael Brown types. The police in Poland do not have to deal with race riots.

    Replies: @utu

  164. @utu
    @Chris Mallory

    "This was a murder pure and simple." - Police in the US is out of control. Police in plain clothes is worse. They are often high on some drugs.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @eah, @Jefferson

    Cops in plain clothes contributed to the fiasco that got a teenager shot in my neighborhood six years ago.

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    @Steve Sailer

    The biggest benefit of cops is when they are clearly visible.

    Thay way they remind people to behave.

    Replies: @guest

  165. @guest
    @Bill Jones

    That is definitely not in the Constitution. Anyway, the official position of Official Judicial/Legal Theory has it that judicial review is inherent in due process. Good luck getting that out of the Constitution.

    Replies: @Federalist

    Arguably it is in the Constitution. The judicial power is vested in the Supreme Court and inferior courts that Congress establishes. So, every court other than the Supreme Court is established by Congress. The power to establish inferior courts presumably includes the power to limit their jurisdiction. Except in rare instances where the Supreme Court has original jurisdiction, the Constitution gives it appellate jurisdiction “with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.”

    I’m not an expert by any means, but there is some history of jurisdiction stripping by Congress. I don’t think it’s as simple as implied by the first commenter who brought it up, though. A big problem is that the Supreme Court, for all practical purposes, has unlimited power to interpret its own jurisdiction. If the Supreme Court ruled jurisdiction stripping unconstitutional and assuming for the sake of argument that they were clearly wrong, who could stop them?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Federalist

    As the great Andre Jackson said in Worcester v. Georgia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worcester_v._Georgia), "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!".

    There is -nothing- in the Constitution that gives -any- judge the power to declare -any- law passed by -any- legislature unconstitutional. Congress can stop this crap anytime it wants to.

  166. @Bill Jones
    @Anoni

    It's simpler than that. Congress could pass a law allowing IQ tests and stipulate that the law is not subject to judicial review.

    It's in the Constitution.

    Replies: @guest, @ben tillman

    It’s simpler than that. Congress could pass a law allowing IQ tests and stipulate that the law is not subject to judicial review.

    Of course, Congress could do that, but it would be pointless. The Constitution’s “Supremacy Clause” necessitates judicial review of every statute.

    • Replies: @guest
    @ben tillman

    I wouldn't go so far as to say it necessitates it. If SCOTUS had to go through every law to see if it passes constitutional muster they wouldn't do anything else. That's why it took so damn long for them to assert the individual right to bear arms. They had to be in the mood, and they had to have the right case.

    Things are different when it's something they do want to defend, unlike the 2nd amendment. It takes much less for SCOTUS to be in the mood to overturn freedom of association in favor of low-IQ goons, for instance.

    , @Federalist
    @ben tillman

    The Supremacy Clause makes the Constitution and federal laws superior to state laws that conflict. It doesn't really have anything to do with judicial review of laws passed by Congress.

    Replies: @guest

  167. @Chris Mallory
    @J1234

    Her video put the cops in even worse light. The 3-4 cops who started the assault were all in plain clothes. They were wearing tactical vests with police on the back, but there did not appear to be any markings on the front. Those cops were not in marked vehicles. A uniformed cop did show up, but it doesn't look like he did much to get the situation under control. So this guy was sitting in his truck minding his own business when 3-4 steroid addicted thugs rushed him, all of them screaming contradictory orders that would be impossible to follow. Any reasonable person would attempt to defend themselves. This was a murder pure and simple.

    Replies: @utu, @The most deplorable one, @J1234

    It seems that Scott has a history of shooting at cops:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/breaking-keith-scott-fired-gun-police-2005/

  168. @utu
    @Chris Mallory

    "This was a murder pure and simple." - Police in the US is out of control. Police in plain clothes is worse. They are often high on some drugs.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @eah, @Jefferson

    Police in the US is out of control.

    Exactly how are they “out of control”? — I mean aside from the numerous instances recently when they’ve stood by while marauding “protesters” destroyed property and perpetrated violence against people with the wrong skin color.

  169. @Steve Sailer
    @utu

    Cops in plain clothes contributed to the fiasco that got a teenager shot in my neighborhood six years ago.

    Replies: @The most deplorable one

    The biggest benefit of cops is when they are clearly visible.

    Thay way they remind people to behave.

    • Replies: @guest
    @The most deplorable one

    I've never understood why they dress like ninjas, then emblazoned themselves with "police" in bold letters. They want the element of surprise and to clearly identify themselves? Why not pick one or the other?

    Unless they're just looking for plausible deniability when they Waco people.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  170. @ben tillman
    @Bill Jones


    It’s simpler than that. Congress could pass a law allowing IQ tests and stipulate that the law is not subject to judicial review.
     
    Of course, Congress could do that, but it would be pointless. The Constitution's "Supremacy Clause" necessitates judicial review of every statute.

    Replies: @guest, @Federalist

    I wouldn’t go so far as to say it necessitates it. If SCOTUS had to go through every law to see if it passes constitutional muster they wouldn’t do anything else. That’s why it took so damn long for them to assert the individual right to bear arms. They had to be in the mood, and they had to have the right case.

    Things are different when it’s something they do want to defend, unlike the 2nd amendment. It takes much less for SCOTUS to be in the mood to overturn freedom of association in favor of low-IQ goons, for instance.

  171. @The most deplorable one
    @Steve Sailer

    The biggest benefit of cops is when they are clearly visible.

    Thay way they remind people to behave.

    Replies: @guest

    I’ve never understood why they dress like ninjas, then emblazoned themselves with “police” in bold letters. They want the element of surprise and to clearly identify themselves? Why not pick one or the other?

    Unless they’re just looking for plausible deniability when they Waco people.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @guest

    Yes, it's not as if black is really any kind of camoflage during the day. Somebody wearing all black stands out in normal circumstances. My friendly local SWAT team also sports a device with a sword, shield, and lightning bolts. The intent of such displays by the police is either to intimidate the public or to make themselves feel like badasses - neither of which strikes me as a legitimate thing for public employees to do.

  172. @ben tillman
    @Bill Jones


    It’s simpler than that. Congress could pass a law allowing IQ tests and stipulate that the law is not subject to judicial review.
     
    Of course, Congress could do that, but it would be pointless. The Constitution's "Supremacy Clause" necessitates judicial review of every statute.

    Replies: @guest, @Federalist

    The Supremacy Clause makes the Constitution and federal laws superior to state laws that conflict. It doesn’t really have anything to do with judicial review of laws passed by Congress.

    • Replies: @guest
    @Federalist

    How does SCOTUS apply superior constitutional law in the face of contradictory lower laws without judicial review? Riddle me that.

    Replies: @Federalist

  173. @Forbes
    @Perspective

    To the ghetto crowds and rioters, the race of the cop who did the shooting doesn't matter--or make a difference. All cops are blue, and form the occupying, oppositional army (or the biggest gang in the 'hood). The race/ethnicity of the cop is a distinction without a difference (just ask any black cop working in the inner city).

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “To the ghetto crowds and rioters, the race of the cop who did the shooting doesn’t matter–or make a difference.”

    A Black cop murders a Black thug, so why did these Mulignans in Charlotte take out their anger on a White guy? Not only that he is not even a police officer.
    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/shock-video-homeless-white-man-attacked-charlotte-agitators/

    Riots are Mulignans excuse to physically attack White people, steal electronics, steal junk food, steal weaves, and steal Air Jordan sneakers. There is no social political message behind it, it’s just pure thuggery.

  174. @Federalist
    @ben tillman

    The Supremacy Clause makes the Constitution and federal laws superior to state laws that conflict. It doesn't really have anything to do with judicial review of laws passed by Congress.

    Replies: @guest

    How does SCOTUS apply superior constitutional law in the face of contradictory lower laws without judicial review? Riddle me that.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Federalist
    @guest

    Are you asking how does the Supreme Court invalidate state laws without judicial review? It doesn't. Judicial review of state laws is derived from the Supremacy Clause. However, judicial review of federal laws is not derived from the Supremacy Clause.

    It was suggested that Congress could make a law and stipulate that this law is not subject to judicial review. Someone else responded that this would be pointless because the Supremacy Clause permits [or in his words "necessitates"] judicial review. My last comment explained that the Supremacy Clause does not concern judicial review of this sort of law (i.e., a law passed by Congress) but only concerns judicial review of state laws that conflict with federal law.

    Replies: @guest, @guest

  175. @utu
    @Chris Mallory

    "This was a murder pure and simple." - Police in the US is out of control. Police in plain clothes is worse. They are often high on some drugs.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @eah, @Jefferson

    “Police in the US is out of control.”

    How come the police are not out of control in racially homogeneous White countries?

    I blame America’s racial demographics before I blame American cops.

    The police in Poland for example do not have to deal with Keith Lamont Scott and Michael Brown types. The police in Poland do not have to deal with race riots.

    • Replies: @utu
    @Jefferson

    In France and UK you have similar demographics and killing by police is approx. 100 time smaller per capita. Keep in mind that 2/3 killed by police in the US are Whites.

    In Europe they have different rules of engagement and different policing culture. Emphasis is on de-escalation. Shooting to wound and not to kill is preferred. Also they do not put upper limits on IQ when hiring.

    Since you have mentioned Poland... In Poland they used to have a warning shot policy before firing at a suspect until they got trained by FBI to abandon it and shoot to kill at first attempt. Now they have some fatalities due to police actions. Other countries in Europe are less servile to America and they have kept some old school more flexible rules of engagement.

    Yesterday I was driving through Bronx and was passing by a black man standing with hands up who was being interrogated by plain cloth policemen. I found it kind of funny because the only men with hands up in Europe (where I grew up) I saw in WW II movies. In the movies you did that because Nazis could shoot you with impunity if you did not raise your hands up. American police acts too much like an occupational force in foreign territory. You are barking at a wrong tree blaming it on Blacks.

    Replies: @BB753, @eah, @Jefferson, @anon

  176. @JosephD
    @Bill Jones

    I've seen UNZ's piece. I get the philosophical point that KKK violence is massively over represented in the media. But I was looking for raw counts of the black on white violence done by BLM vs. KKK. I think that would be a more compelling point to someone who wasn't already a fellow traveler.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “I’ve seen UNZ’s piece. I get the philosophical point that KKK violence is massively over represented in the media.”

    HATE FACT ALERT LIBERALS AND BLACKS RUN TO YOUR SAFE SPACES NOW, in the history of mankind way more people have died from bee stings than have died from the hands of the KKK. The KKK are paper tigers.

  177. @guest
    @Federalist

    How does SCOTUS apply superior constitutional law in the face of contradictory lower laws without judicial review? Riddle me that.

    Replies: @Federalist

    Are you asking how does the Supreme Court invalidate state laws without judicial review? It doesn’t. Judicial review of state laws is derived from the Supremacy Clause. However, judicial review of federal laws is not derived from the Supremacy Clause.

    It was suggested that Congress could make a law and stipulate that this law is not subject to judicial review. Someone else responded that this would be pointless because the Supremacy Clause permits [or in his words “necessitates”] judicial review. My last comment explained that the Supremacy Clause does not concern judicial review of this sort of law (i.e., a law passed by Congress) but only concerns judicial review of state laws that conflict with federal law.

    • Replies: @guest
    @Federalist

    What are you talking about? Judicial review of federal laws is derived from the supremacy clause, too. Not only the supremacy clause, because there's also the roundabout due process argument. But what else do you think it means when judges rule federal laws void because they are unconstitutional? Why wouldn't the supremacy clause have something to do with that?

    There's no distinction between unconstitutional federal laws and unconstitutional state laws. Both are subject to the supremacy test.

    , @guest
    @Federalist

    Here's the relevant text:

    U.S. Constitution, Article VI, Clause 2, "This Constitution and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof..."

    Federal laws not made in pursuance of the Constitution are illegal.

    Replies: @ben tillman

  178. @Jefferson
    @utu

    "Police in the US is out of control."

    How come the police are not out of control in racially homogeneous White countries?

    I blame America's racial demographics before I blame American cops.

    The police in Poland for example do not have to deal with Keith Lamont Scott and Michael Brown types. The police in Poland do not have to deal with race riots.

    Replies: @utu

    In France and UK you have similar demographics and killing by police is approx. 100 time smaller per capita. Keep in mind that 2/3 killed by police in the US are Whites.

    In Europe they have different rules of engagement and different policing culture. Emphasis is on de-escalation. Shooting to wound and not to kill is preferred. Also they do not put upper limits on IQ when hiring.

    Since you have mentioned Poland… In Poland they used to have a warning shot policy before firing at a suspect until they got trained by FBI to abandon it and shoot to kill at first attempt. Now they have some fatalities due to police actions. Other countries in Europe are less servile to America and they have kept some old school more flexible rules of engagement.

    Yesterday I was driving through Bronx and was passing by a black man standing with hands up who was being interrogated by plain cloth policemen. I found it kind of funny because the only men with hands up in Europe (where I grew up) I saw in WW II movies. In the movies you did that because Nazis could shoot you with impunity if you did not raise your hands up. American police acts too much like an occupational force in foreign territory. You are barking at a wrong tree blaming it on Blacks.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @utu

    I agree with you on every point except when it comes to Blacks. US Blacks are probably the most violent population on earth and nearly impossible to police.

    , @eah
    @utu

    Answer my question:

    Exactly how are they “out of control”?

    , @Jefferson
    @utu

    " France and UK you have similar demographics"

    No they don't. There is not a single city in France and The U.K that is 35 percent Black like Charlotte.

    "American police acts too much like an occupational force in foreign territory. You are barking at a wrong tree blaming it on Blacks."

    There is not a single country on the planet with a large Black and or Brown population where the police don't act like an occupational force.

    For example here is article about South African police murdering 38 miners.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marikana_killings

    And of course the police in countries like Brazil and Mexico murder way more civilians than American police officers do.

    You must be an extremely sheltered Liberal if you don't believe the level of police aggressiveness is tied to the racial demographics of a nation.

    Replies: @utu

    , @anon
    @utu

    If you think France and the United Kingdom have similar demographics to the USA (to say nothing of a totally different history, culture and mentality) you are divorced from reality sport.

  179. @utu
    @Jefferson

    In France and UK you have similar demographics and killing by police is approx. 100 time smaller per capita. Keep in mind that 2/3 killed by police in the US are Whites.

    In Europe they have different rules of engagement and different policing culture. Emphasis is on de-escalation. Shooting to wound and not to kill is preferred. Also they do not put upper limits on IQ when hiring.

    Since you have mentioned Poland... In Poland they used to have a warning shot policy before firing at a suspect until they got trained by FBI to abandon it and shoot to kill at first attempt. Now they have some fatalities due to police actions. Other countries in Europe are less servile to America and they have kept some old school more flexible rules of engagement.

    Yesterday I was driving through Bronx and was passing by a black man standing with hands up who was being interrogated by plain cloth policemen. I found it kind of funny because the only men with hands up in Europe (where I grew up) I saw in WW II movies. In the movies you did that because Nazis could shoot you with impunity if you did not raise your hands up. American police acts too much like an occupational force in foreign territory. You are barking at a wrong tree blaming it on Blacks.

    Replies: @BB753, @eah, @Jefferson, @anon

    I agree with you on every point except when it comes to Blacks. US Blacks are probably the most violent population on earth and nearly impossible to police.

  180. @Federalist
    @guest

    Are you asking how does the Supreme Court invalidate state laws without judicial review? It doesn't. Judicial review of state laws is derived from the Supremacy Clause. However, judicial review of federal laws is not derived from the Supremacy Clause.

    It was suggested that Congress could make a law and stipulate that this law is not subject to judicial review. Someone else responded that this would be pointless because the Supremacy Clause permits [or in his words "necessitates"] judicial review. My last comment explained that the Supremacy Clause does not concern judicial review of this sort of law (i.e., a law passed by Congress) but only concerns judicial review of state laws that conflict with federal law.

    Replies: @guest, @guest

    What are you talking about? Judicial review of federal laws is derived from the supremacy clause, too. Not only the supremacy clause, because there’s also the roundabout due process argument. But what else do you think it means when judges rule federal laws void because they are unconstitutional? Why wouldn’t the supremacy clause have something to do with that?

    There’s no distinction between unconstitutional federal laws and unconstitutional state laws. Both are subject to the supremacy test.

  181. @Federalist
    @guest

    Are you asking how does the Supreme Court invalidate state laws without judicial review? It doesn't. Judicial review of state laws is derived from the Supremacy Clause. However, judicial review of federal laws is not derived from the Supremacy Clause.

    It was suggested that Congress could make a law and stipulate that this law is not subject to judicial review. Someone else responded that this would be pointless because the Supremacy Clause permits [or in his words "necessitates"] judicial review. My last comment explained that the Supremacy Clause does not concern judicial review of this sort of law (i.e., a law passed by Congress) but only concerns judicial review of state laws that conflict with federal law.

    Replies: @guest, @guest

    Here’s the relevant text:

    U.S. Constitution, Article VI, Clause 2, “This Constitution and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof…”

    Federal laws not made in pursuance of the Constitution are illegal.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @guest


    Here’s the relevant text:

    U.S. Constitution, Article VI, Clause 2, “This Constitution and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof…”

    Federal laws not made in pursuance of the Constitution are illegal.
     
    Right. When a judge considers a case featuring a conflict between a statute and the "supreme Law of the Land", he has to make a choice. The judge has to declare either the statute or the Constitution invalid.
  182. @Federalist
    @guest

    Arguably it is in the Constitution. The judicial power is vested in the Supreme Court and inferior courts that Congress establishes. So, every court other than the Supreme Court is established by Congress. The power to establish inferior courts presumably includes the power to limit their jurisdiction. Except in rare instances where the Supreme Court has original jurisdiction, the Constitution gives it appellate jurisdiction "with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make."

    I'm not an expert by any means, but there is some history of jurisdiction stripping by Congress. I don't think it's as simple as implied by the first commenter who brought it up, though. A big problem is that the Supreme Court, for all practical purposes, has unlimited power to interpret its own jurisdiction. If the Supreme Court ruled jurisdiction stripping unconstitutional and assuming for the sake of argument that they were clearly wrong, who could stop them?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    As the great Andre Jackson said in Worcester v. Georgia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worcester_v._Georgia), “John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!”.

    There is -nothing- in the Constitution that gives -any- judge the power to declare -any- law passed by -any- legislature unconstitutional. Congress can stop this crap anytime it wants to.

  183. @eah
    OT

    A helpful heads up for anyone who may live in the area:

    Road closures for DC museum grand opening start Friday night

    Road closures in downtown D.C. will begin as early as 7 p.m. Friday and continue through the weekend for the grand opening of the National Museum of African American History and Culture.

    I've heard the new museum is next door to the 'Great Timing Hall of Fame'.

    In other news:

    Va. woman riding on mattress on top of van dies after fall

    Police believe Sidney Zelaya Gonzalez, of Culpeper, Virginia, and the driver of the van — a 41-year-old woman who has not been identified — were attempting to transport the mattress a short distance when Gonzalez fell and hit the pavement, police said. -- here I think "Va. woman" is not used in the eg Martha Washington sense.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Are they having BLM members handling the road closures for the grand opening of the National Museum of African American History and Culture? If not, seems like a missed opportunity.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Harry Baldwin

    Yeah, they could build some fires to channel traffic!

  184. @guest
    @Jefferson

    There is a difference between a lack of history and an apparent bad history. Hey-zeus could've been an armed robber in his home country, you don't know. But if a criminal background check turns up Tyrone's '08 conviction, you know. Ya dig?

    But that's just one thing. What else is wrong with black people, besides criminal records? Unwillingness to work. Recognition of their unfitness for work by potential employers. And so on. I see blacks as being an immeasurably greater discipline risk.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Not to mention that they will steal you blind. Walmart closed a local store in a diverse neighborhood saying they couldn’t make any money. Wonder why?

  185. @Harry Baldwin
    @eah

    Are they having BLM members handling the road closures for the grand opening of the National Museum of African American History and Culture? If not, seems like a missed opportunity.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Yeah, they could build some fires to channel traffic!

  186. @guest
    @The most deplorable one

    I've never understood why they dress like ninjas, then emblazoned themselves with "police" in bold letters. They want the element of surprise and to clearly identify themselves? Why not pick one or the other?

    Unless they're just looking for plausible deniability when they Waco people.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Yes, it’s not as if black is really any kind of camoflage during the day. Somebody wearing all black stands out in normal circumstances. My friendly local SWAT team also sports a device with a sword, shield, and lightning bolts. The intent of such displays by the police is either to intimidate the public or to make themselves feel like badasses – neither of which strikes me as a legitimate thing for public employees to do.

  187. @Cletus Rothschild
    @tyrone

    Wow. Despite how any of us feels about this movement, how can anyone claim that the loss of a son is worth whatever subsequent "rewards" one receives afterward? And this "fame" and "worship" will not last, nor will it be all that rewarding in the end.

    Replies: @Federalist, @Olorin

    You are projecting white/European genomic views of offspring onto people from a population with a high likelihood of having very different ones.

    For people without a strong future time preference, what matters is NOW.

    In my experience in a 70% black city (three decades nearly), including ER work, the mommas only start to really dearly care deeply and profoundly about they chilluns when death happens.

    It is a form of primitivism that is very difficult to comprehend, coming out of K-reproduction-strategy genetics, where each child is precious. It’s difficult to comprehend the lack of tenderness of mothers toward their newborns/infants/toddlers, even more difficult to comprehend their viciousness or indifference to them.

    It is death that gives a child’s life meaning in that primitive mindset. The fashionable current spin on this, supplied heartily by Bolshevists, is Victimization. Clinging to Victimization means keeping the worship of death alive in every aspect of life.

    The Dems play on this for their own power, and it stinks.

  188. @utu
    @Jefferson

    In France and UK you have similar demographics and killing by police is approx. 100 time smaller per capita. Keep in mind that 2/3 killed by police in the US are Whites.

    In Europe they have different rules of engagement and different policing culture. Emphasis is on de-escalation. Shooting to wound and not to kill is preferred. Also they do not put upper limits on IQ when hiring.

    Since you have mentioned Poland... In Poland they used to have a warning shot policy before firing at a suspect until they got trained by FBI to abandon it and shoot to kill at first attempt. Now they have some fatalities due to police actions. Other countries in Europe are less servile to America and they have kept some old school more flexible rules of engagement.

    Yesterday I was driving through Bronx and was passing by a black man standing with hands up who was being interrogated by plain cloth policemen. I found it kind of funny because the only men with hands up in Europe (where I grew up) I saw in WW II movies. In the movies you did that because Nazis could shoot you with impunity if you did not raise your hands up. American police acts too much like an occupational force in foreign territory. You are barking at a wrong tree blaming it on Blacks.

    Replies: @BB753, @eah, @Jefferson, @anon

    Answer my question:

    Exactly how are they “out of control”?

  189. @utu
    @Jefferson

    In France and UK you have similar demographics and killing by police is approx. 100 time smaller per capita. Keep in mind that 2/3 killed by police in the US are Whites.

    In Europe they have different rules of engagement and different policing culture. Emphasis is on de-escalation. Shooting to wound and not to kill is preferred. Also they do not put upper limits on IQ when hiring.

    Since you have mentioned Poland... In Poland they used to have a warning shot policy before firing at a suspect until they got trained by FBI to abandon it and shoot to kill at first attempt. Now they have some fatalities due to police actions. Other countries in Europe are less servile to America and they have kept some old school more flexible rules of engagement.

    Yesterday I was driving through Bronx and was passing by a black man standing with hands up who was being interrogated by plain cloth policemen. I found it kind of funny because the only men with hands up in Europe (where I grew up) I saw in WW II movies. In the movies you did that because Nazis could shoot you with impunity if you did not raise your hands up. American police acts too much like an occupational force in foreign territory. You are barking at a wrong tree blaming it on Blacks.

    Replies: @BB753, @eah, @Jefferson, @anon

    ” France and UK you have similar demographics”

    No they don’t. There is not a single city in France and The U.K that is 35 percent Black like Charlotte.

    “American police acts too much like an occupational force in foreign territory. You are barking at a wrong tree blaming it on Blacks.”

    There is not a single country on the planet with a large Black and or Brown population where the police don’t act like an occupational force.

    For example here is article about South African police murdering 38 miners.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marikana_killings

    And of course the police in countries like Brazil and Mexico murder way more civilians than American police officers do.

    You must be an extremely sheltered Liberal if you don’t believe the level of police aggressiveness is tied to the racial demographics of a nation.

    • Replies: @utu
    @Jefferson

    "the level of police aggressiveness is tied to the racial demographics of a nation." - This part of your statement is partly correct because the so called diversity reduces social cohesion and solidarity of society. For this reason it is sickening what is being done to Sweden with immigration that exhibited the highest level of social cohesion and solidarity. America from day one had no social cohesion on account of Indians which was unavoidable and slavery which was avoidable. However the problem of police aggressiveness goes deeper into American psyche and inherent philosophy.

    Keep in mind that even if we remove Black and Latino deaths from police statistics the rate of killing by police in the US is still 40 times higher than in Europe. Blacks are killed at higher rate per capita of their population because they have more interaction with police per capita. But if you calculate the death by police per number of interaction with police the kill rates are almost the same for Blacks, Whites and Latinos. You can read about it in Miller et al. "Perils of police action: a cautionary tale from US data sets" (2016) in Inj Prev 2016;0:1–6. doi:10.1136/.

    Police kills because they can. They can do it usually with impunity. Society (Whites) and media seem to give them the license to kill and thus does not scrutinize their actions. Black community is the only one to object and protest it under a misguided banner of racism because racism (real or perceived) unifies them. The problem is the police and their rules of engagement that need to be changed. You just do not shoot people like that! Learn to de-escalate!

  190. @utu
    @Jefferson

    In France and UK you have similar demographics and killing by police is approx. 100 time smaller per capita. Keep in mind that 2/3 killed by police in the US are Whites.

    In Europe they have different rules of engagement and different policing culture. Emphasis is on de-escalation. Shooting to wound and not to kill is preferred. Also they do not put upper limits on IQ when hiring.

    Since you have mentioned Poland... In Poland they used to have a warning shot policy before firing at a suspect until they got trained by FBI to abandon it and shoot to kill at first attempt. Now they have some fatalities due to police actions. Other countries in Europe are less servile to America and they have kept some old school more flexible rules of engagement.

    Yesterday I was driving through Bronx and was passing by a black man standing with hands up who was being interrogated by plain cloth policemen. I found it kind of funny because the only men with hands up in Europe (where I grew up) I saw in WW II movies. In the movies you did that because Nazis could shoot you with impunity if you did not raise your hands up. American police acts too much like an occupational force in foreign territory. You are barking at a wrong tree blaming it on Blacks.

    Replies: @BB753, @eah, @Jefferson, @anon

    If you think France and the United Kingdom have similar demographics to the USA (to say nothing of a totally different history, culture and mentality) you are divorced from reality sport.

  191. @Chris Mallory
    @J1234

    Her video put the cops in even worse light. The 3-4 cops who started the assault were all in plain clothes. They were wearing tactical vests with police on the back, but there did not appear to be any markings on the front. Those cops were not in marked vehicles. A uniformed cop did show up, but it doesn't look like he did much to get the situation under control. So this guy was sitting in his truck minding his own business when 3-4 steroid addicted thugs rushed him, all of them screaming contradictory orders that would be impossible to follow. Any reasonable person would attempt to defend themselves. This was a murder pure and simple.

    Replies: @utu, @The most deplorable one, @J1234

    The 3-4 cops who started the assault were all in plain clothes. They were wearing tactical vests with police on the back, but there did not appear to be any markings on the front.

    Yeah, you’re right, he had no way of knowing if they were really cops…because white guys pretending to be cops are always going into black housing projects and pulling guns on black felons who aren’t allowed to have guns, but have guns anyway. Happens all the time.

  192. @guest
    @Federalist

    Here's the relevant text:

    U.S. Constitution, Article VI, Clause 2, "This Constitution and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof..."

    Federal laws not made in pursuance of the Constitution are illegal.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Here’s the relevant text:

    U.S. Constitution, Article VI, Clause 2, “This Constitution and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof…”

    Federal laws not made in pursuance of the Constitution are illegal.

    Right. When a judge considers a case featuring a conflict between a statute and the “supreme Law of the Land”, he has to make a choice. The judge has to declare either the statute or the Constitution invalid.

  193. @Jack Hanson
    @reiner Tor

    I'm talking about something when he was a junior officer, so he took his troops over the Alps and captured a shit ton of Italians.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    Oh OK, you’re probably correct.

  194. Does not matter. Cops are paid to take those risks. If officer safety is more important than the life of a citizen, then that government employee needs to quit and find honest work. Possession of a firearm by a citizen should never give the government employees free reign to shoot the citizen, PERIOD. Cops work for us, we are the masters and they are the servants.

    I’m sure that’s how they do it in Libertardian/Sperg World. Here, we want sane people in uniform, not suicidals. And servants are not drawn to police work. Again, this is one of those real-world things.

    Yeah, you’re right, he had no way of knowing if they were really cops…because white guys pretending to be cops are always going into black housing projects and pulling guns on black felons who aren’t allowed to have guns, but have guns anyway. Happens all the time.

    In Sperg World, they do it all the time, yes.

  195. @Jefferson
    @utu

    " France and UK you have similar demographics"

    No they don't. There is not a single city in France and The U.K that is 35 percent Black like Charlotte.

    "American police acts too much like an occupational force in foreign territory. You are barking at a wrong tree blaming it on Blacks."

    There is not a single country on the planet with a large Black and or Brown population where the police don't act like an occupational force.

    For example here is article about South African police murdering 38 miners.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marikana_killings

    And of course the police in countries like Brazil and Mexico murder way more civilians than American police officers do.

    You must be an extremely sheltered Liberal if you don't believe the level of police aggressiveness is tied to the racial demographics of a nation.

    Replies: @utu

    “the level of police aggressiveness is tied to the racial demographics of a nation.” – This part of your statement is partly correct because the so called diversity reduces social cohesion and solidarity of society. For this reason it is sickening what is being done to Sweden with immigration that exhibited the highest level of social cohesion and solidarity. America from day one had no social cohesion on account of Indians which was unavoidable and slavery which was avoidable. However the problem of police aggressiveness goes deeper into American psyche and inherent philosophy.

    Keep in mind that even if we remove Black and Latino deaths from police statistics the rate of killing by police in the US is still 40 times higher than in Europe. Blacks are killed at higher rate per capita of their population because they have more interaction with police per capita. But if you calculate the death by police per number of interaction with police the kill rates are almost the same for Blacks, Whites and Latinos. You can read about it in Miller et al. “Perils of police action: a cautionary tale from US data sets” (2016) in Inj Prev 2016;0:1–6. doi:10.1136/.

    Police kills because they can. They can do it usually with impunity. Society (Whites) and media seem to give them the license to kill and thus does not scrutinize their actions. Black community is the only one to object and protest it under a misguided banner of racism because racism (real or perceived) unifies them. The problem is the police and their rules of engagement that need to be changed. You just do not shoot people like that! Learn to de-escalate!

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