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We shouldn’t overgeneralize from a small sample size, because America has a huge number of churches and a surprising number burn down each year for random reasons (e.g., outdated wiring, Protestant Lighting insurance fraud, and churches attracting firebugs and the ire of the insane), but it’s starting to sound like Barcelona in 1936 out there. From Catholic News Agency:

Mission founded by St. Junípero Serra burns in overnight fire

CNA Staff, Jul 11, 2020 / 12:40 pm MT (CNA).-

A massive fire devastated an eighteenth century mission church in San Gabriel, in the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, July 11. Archbishop Jose Gomez of Los Angeles called the fire at San Gabriel Mission church, founded by St. Junipero Serra, “devastating.”

The fire began early Saturday morning around 4 a.m. and destroyed the roof and interior of the 249-year-old structure.

You know, California doesn’t have so many 249-year-old buildings that we can afford to have one burn down.

… “The roof of the mission is completely gone and the interior up to the altar is completely destroyed,” Negrete said, noting that it was not yet possible to establish the cause of the fire because of concerns over the building’s structural integrity.

But don’t worry, they’ll figure out the cause real soon now. By the way, that reminds me, have they figured out who or what burned down Notre Dame in Paris yet?

… Serra was canonized by Pope Francis during a visit to the United States in 2015.

… Despite Serra’s record defending indigenous peoples, statues of the saint have become focal points for protests and demonstrations across California in recent weeks, with images of the saint being torn down or vandalized in protest of California’s colonial past.

Rioters pulled down a statue of St. Serra in the state capital of Sacramento on July 4, during which one man burned the face of the statue with an ignited spray can, before a crowd pulled the statue from its base and struck it with a sledgehammer and other objects, dancing and jumping upon it.

Another statue of the saint was torn down in Golden Gate Park, San Francisco, on June 19 by a crowd of about 100 people, and on the same day a statue of the saint was torn down in Los Angeles.

The July 11 fire came at nearly the same time a Florida man set fire to a Catholic parish as parishioners prepared for morning Mass.

Also from the Catholic News Agency today:

Florida man lights Catholic Church on fire with parishioners inside

CNA Staff, Jul 11, 2020 / 02:25 pm MT (CNA).-

A Florida man lit a Catholic Church aflame on Saturday, while people inside prepared for morning Mass.

The Marion County Sheriff’s Office reported July 11 that deputies were called at about 7:30 am to Queen of Peace Catholic Church in Ocala, while parishioners inside prepared for morning Mass.

A man crashed a minivan through the front door of the church, and then lit a fire with people inside, the sheriff’s department said. One local media outlet, Orlando News 6, reported that man set the building ablaze by throwing an incendiary device.

The suspect is a 24-year-old white crazy man who is off his meds.

Dear Holders of the Megaphone: You spent years getting us to worry about “triggering” people. Do you ever worry that what you’ve been doing since May 24 might be triggering dangerous lunatics?

 
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  1. 216 says:

    Dear Holders of the Megaphone: You spent years getting us to worry about “triggering” people. Do you ever worry that what you’ve been doing since May 24 might be triggering dangerous lunatics?

    There are no double standards, there is only the Liberal Standard.

    We live under a cultural system that is ordered by and for liberals, and the rest of us are supposed to know our place.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @BenKenobi
  2. Hi Steve, It’s your boy Tommy Sotomayor.
    As a Black Conservative Christian, it pains me what is going on in the black community.
    Our biggest problems are absent fathers, very low emphasis on education and higher crime rates.

    White liberals hate black conservatives because we don’t see ourselves as oppressed.

    Fundamentally, because we view ourselves as their equals.

    That’s the issue.

    • Thanks: Muggles
    • Replies: @Bostonvegas
  3. Gordo says:

    I can see why a copper in England would just let the coloured folk drive in excess of the speed limit on the wrong side of the road whenever they wanted as senior officer are simply woke politicians who never back up the ones who are actually out there on the streets.

    They haven’t all learned that lesson but this will help ram it home:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bianca-williams-stop-search-met-police-apology-a9607481.html

    Some forces have been condoning by inactivity for years with child rapists. What a shit country

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Pericles
  4. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    Friendly reminder:

    ‘Tear Them Down’: BLM Activist Shaun King Calls For Destruction Of Jesus Christ Statues, Churches: ‘White Supremacy,’ ‘Oppression,’ ‘Racist Propaganda’

    *Note: King is OBVIOUSLY a white man. Just look at his picture in the article. Although, I believe he claims his mother could have had an affair with a black man. Does anyone buy that? Convincing society to accept this larper as black demonstrates the incredible power of propaganda. Maybe conservatives shouldn’t have been so willing to let a few companies control everything you see on television.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/tear-them-down-blm-activist-shaun-king-calls-for-destruction-of-jesus-christ-statues-churches-for-white-supremacy-oppression-racist-p

    • Thanks: GazaPlanet
  5. Charlotte says:

    The California church was undergoing renovations at the time, according to Fox. At a training session on disaster planning for cultural institutions, I remember the instructor warning that a building undergoing construction work is ripe for trouble. I suppose anytime you’ve got heavy equipment, extension cords, possibly overloaded circuits, old, dry, wood, and the like, fire becomes more likely.

    It may prove to be arson, but it wouldn’t surprise me to learn that an electrical short or something was to blame.

    • Replies: @Icy Blast
    , @J.Ross
    , @OFWHAP
  6. Dear Holders of the Megaphone: You spent years getting us to worry about “triggering” people. Do you ever worry that what you’ve been doing since May 24 might be triggering dangerous lunatics?

    The megaphone itself is held by dangerous lunatics. From late fellow commenter Baloo:

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  7. @216

    We live under a cultural system that is ordered by and for liberals, and the rest of us are supposed to know our place.

    There is no definition of the word liberal that fits these people in any way. They are a collection of totalitarians and nihilists working together.

  8. I’ve tried to lecture my Christian friends (all of them leftists) that marxism is totally dedicated to ending Christianity.

    They refuse to listen.

    I have seen MANY recent clips of BLM/Antifa attacking churchgoers and churches.

    The Bolsheviks burned churches to the ground, raped nuns, murdered priests.

    Yet most Catholics are leftists, most Episcopalians are leftists…..much of mainstream Christianity veers left.

    You would think that on the issue of abortion alone they would vote right……but no…..Christians are not the most logical or intelligent group of people.

    • Replies: @GazaPlanet
  9. @Tommy Sotomayor

    If this is the real Tommy S I’m a big fan…I use beasties back as my walk up song

    • Agree: bomag
  10. Kronos says:

    One of the interesting things about reading “The Slaughter of Cities: Urban Renewal as Ethnic Cleansing” is really getting aquatinted with the Catholic vs. Protestant ethnic fights both open and discrete in the US. Early American Boomers likely experienced a lingering taste of that rivalry but now it’s almost non-existent amongst Gen X, Millennials, and Zoomers. (If you called a Catholic kid a Cat-Licker today he might think your calling him a furry or something.)

    So unless you were born in Northern Ireland during the Irish Troubles from the 1960s-1990s that isn’t much of a dividing line compared to Race in America. There isn’t US news coverage of US Catholics and Protestants burning each other’s Churches down and direct public fistfights between priests of different denominations.

    Also, very random question. Is it racist that they had a black man play Alexander Hamilton? A person notorious in high society for lacking a legitimate birth and with multiple men potentially being his father.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Hibernian
  11. @anon

    If shaun king married Rachel dolezal their kid would look like ron howard but with their styling talent they’d have him looking like dave Chappelle

  12. Miro23 says:
    @Gordo

    Some forces have been condoning by inactivity for years with child rapists. What a shit country.

    Agreed. For example this cowardly lesbian – who happens to be the British chief of police:

    Dame Cressida Dick apologizes to athlete Bianca Williams for ‘distress’ after stop and search

    The Met said the officers who carried out the search had been patrolling the area in response to an increase in “youth violence involving weapons”. They stopped the vehicle after it was seen “travelling the wrong side of the road” and “made off at speed from the officers”.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bianca-williams-stop-search-met-police-apology-a9607481.html

    • Replies: @Altai
  13. I love the California Missions and the way the government of California ties itself in knots depicting their complex history. This is a tragic loss.

    I think there is a spiritual dimension to the current unrest. Burning churches and preventing people from gathering to pray benefit the ones on the Dark Path. I wish this was not the case, but I suspect it is.

    Spirit cooking performance artist/witch Marina Abramovich standing with none other than Lord Rothshchild in front of the painting Satan Summoning His Legions.

    https://www.royalacademy.org.uk/art-artists/work-of-art/satan-summoning-his-legions

  14. Whiskey says: • Website

    Is this Trump’s luck again? He’s been very, very lucky. While BLM is wildly popular among White women, see the other thread with the young blonde lady screaming black lives matter, among Latinos it cements them in place as second behind blacks. It cements black neighborhoods as black not Latino. For example, Leimert Park could be a very nice place for Latinos if they can ethnically cleanse the blacks out. And most Latinos, if you ask them, figure that all those state and local government jobs belong to them, not blacks. Cops pay very well, as they should (cuts down on corruption if you already get paid well just for doing your job) and there is no shortage of young Latino men who would very much like to kick ass and get after it. Particularly black dudes for whom they have not much liking.

    White women are voting for Biden. They are currently chasing after black dudes, those riots and protests are a sea of young White women. And yes I will say it right now — Islam IS INDEED right about women. Completely and absolutely.

    A double punch of black lives matter dudes burning down Catholic Churches, and Latinos figuring they get the shaft in favor of black dudes, could be significant. White women will vote anti-White men, the equivalent of drunken college dudes screaming “no fat chicks.” Their beef is White men too nerdy, dutiful, not violent and criminal enough like black dudes, not dominant and dangerous and abusive. All true without a doubt. White women have been in primal rage since Trump’s election, see Ashley Judd screaming abuse at White women at the first pussy hat march in Washington.

    Latinos are not going to vote for Trump. But they may just sit this one out. Latino turnout at say, significantly less than last election makes the likely voters polling less indicative. You notice Trump shut up about the wall, borders, or much of anything. Its like he suddenly disappeared. I gave up on wanting anything from Trump a day after his inauguration, but at least he’s not President Abrams or Harris or Rice possibly the worst of all — an Abimael Guzman or Pol Pot in the making.

    At the local gun store a while back, the split was about a third each of White, Asian, and Latino. Revealed preference in that at least is that NO ONE likes Black Lives Matter. EVERYONE fears for their stuff and themselves. And no one is happy with Newsome letting out criminals — he let out 8,000 more today, serious dudes with murder convictions and rape convictions etc. For “Corona Virus” fears.

  15. Pertinent to St. Junípero Serra’s current standing in California, Stanford University, last fall, renamed Serra Mall, the road alongside its magnificent quad, to Jane Stanford Way..

    ‘At the dedication Thursday, the Stanford American Indian Organization presented Stanford with a Pendleton blanket in gratitude for the renaming process. University leadership and leaders of the Associated Students of Stanford University accepted the gift. (Image credit: Farrin Abbott)
    During Thursday’s ceremony to dedicate Jane Stanford Way, leaders of the Muwekma Ohlone Tribe welcomed the audience gathered in Memorial Court with a welcoming prayer and song delivered in Chochenyo, the language of their ancestors.

    Charlene Nijmeh, chairwoman of the Muwekma Ohlone Tribe of the San Francisco Bay Area, greeted the audience, saying: “Ma’kkin Mak Muwekma. ‘Akkoy Mak-Warep, Manne Mak Hiswi,” or “We are Muwekma Ohlone. Welcome to our ancestral homeland.”

    Nijmeh, who continued her address in English, said the tribe was honored to be invited to participate in the event.‘ (Stanford News, Nov. 14, 2019)

  16. Icy Blast says:
    @Charlotte

    I always love it when a cowardly Neoconservative offers up lame excuses for left-wing violence. Just what this country needs!

  17. BenKenobi says:
    @216

    We live under a cultural system that is ordered by and for liberals

    Your sentence is missing some triple parentheses.

  18. I think it’s time to post some serious security around California’s missions, or there will be none.

  19. Anon[157] • Disclaimer says:

    Re Notre Dame: They concluded it was an electrical short. Has that been recently put into question, or are there active conspiracy theories? Or have you just not been keeping up with Notre Dame news?

    A silver lining of the fire is that a lot of stuff is available to researchers that wasn’t before. A left field example is that old growth timber from 900 years ago is being studied by climate scientists.

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/scientists-are-leading-notre-dame-s-restoration-and-probing-mysteries-laid-bare-its

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    , @Anonymous
  20. Miro23 says:

    … but it’s starting to sound like Barcelona in 1936 out there.

    Yes it is. Churches are a wonderful targets for Woke Red Guards.

    They’re representative of tradition, they support families, traditional marriage and education and conservatism in general. They’re anti-sleaze and (until recently) anti – state sponsored homosexuality.

    They’re also soft targets with easy access + local Woke politicians clearly aren’t going to defend them.
    Every trend starts somewhere, and I can see the Western Neo-Bolsheviks being as attracted to Church burnings as their Bolshevik forefathers. In Spain 1936 no church building was safe and the priests themselves were openly attacked by Antifa mobs, while their feeble and cowardly Socialist government looked the other way.

  21. anon[335] • Disclaimer says:

    Okay Steve, you yourself reported on the fake hysteria over the burning of black churches in the 90’s during the Clinton administration. Clinton and the media cried “Racism!” and it turned out it was just the usual number of random fires that take place in churches. Churches are left empty much of the week and are more susceptible to all the usual causes of fires.
    Now the shoe is on the other foot. What evidence do you have that there are more than the usual number of church fires? What proof do you have that “church burnings are suddenly a big thing?”.
    I’m first in line to call out the thugs on the left for their crimes, but do you have stats to show there is a real uptick here?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Corvinus
  22. …it’s starting to sound like Barcelona in 1936 out there.

    What we need is a Franco.

    • Agree: al gore rhythms, JMcG, Neuday
    • Replies: @JMcG
    , @Anon
  23. anon[457] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Corvinus said that was going too far, proving that Corvinis is a racist by his own standards.

  24. Pericles says:
    @Gordo

    There are a lot of overpromoted incompetent and plainly malign old women around these days. Notice how often they turn up with some new disaster or idiocy in the news. Mayors, chiefs of police, judges, etc. Negative value.

    • Agree: bomag
  25. Anonymous[939] • Disclaimer says:

    Admit it: It’s an open question whether or not Supreme Court Justice Gorsuch approves of the church burnings.

    That’s how far gone we are.

    Step 1/ COMPLETE PUSSIFICATION OF MALES

    Step.2/ HYSTERICAL FEMALES FILL THE VOID

    Many of the riot arsons have been the work of young white women.

    I wish there was some political savior on the horizon. Can’t think of a single ass kicking alpha male who has what it takes to right this ship.

    GOP will not save us from the Bolsheviks. That should be obvious by now.

    1930s Spain was not really saved but at least it was spared complete disaster by a general.

    Funny how these two recent idiotic wars of ours did not produce any great generals. Instead guys of questionable character Petraeus & McChrystal.

    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Mike_from_SGV
  26. J.Ross says:
    @Charlotte

    3 in 24 hours at the same time that bad actors foreign and domestic are strategizing tension (and after repeated ideation/inception, with no media or law enforcement pushback at all) is not a misplaced extension cord.

  27. J.Ross says:
    @anon

    How often do cars crash into churches?
    Let me help you: there never was any such thing as “racism” (as lefties understand it). There has been such a thing as leftist terrorists and the brownshirts were brought into existence because of them and not the other way around.

    • Troll: Corvinus
  28. robot says: • Website

    OT: Are there any funny recent fictional satires of woke-ism?

    • Replies: @Neuday
    , @njguy73
  29. Mr. Anon says:

    Mission founded by St. Junípero Serra burns in overnight fire

    Jul 11, 2020

    Did Bill Clinton remember it happening when he was a teenager?

  30. Mr. Anon says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    From late fellow commenter Baloo:

    I didn’t know Baloo had died. I’m sorry to hear that.

    RIP

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  31. Mr. Anon says:
    @Kronos

    Also, very random question. Is it racist that they had a black man play Alexander Hamilton? A person notorious in high society for lacking a legitimate birth and with multiple men potentially being his father.

    He also died after shooting it up with his homie, Aaron Burr, because he dissed him.

    Hey, wait a minute……………….

  32. Dumbo says:
    @Clifford Brown

    Wow. Talk about an “image that says more than a thousand words”.

    Most people nowadays don’t take religious/occult symbolism very seriously, but the people in the elite certainly do. Maybe they are crazy, or maybe they know something that most people don’t.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  33. Coemgen says:
    @Anon

    They concluded it was an electrical short.

    They? Who are they?

    Electrical short? Do cathedrals not have circuit breakers and/or fuses?

    Anyhow, the quote from the article, “…an electrical short was the likely spark for a blaze…,” is far from decisive. The author’s use of the passive voice seems to be a tell. I’m going to continue to assume arson until proven otherwise.

  34. Anonymous[146] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Immigrants help make America great
    Sudip Parikh for Science Magazine

    https://science.sciencemag.org/content/369/6500/120

    • Replies: @Neuday
  35. @Coemgen

    From Wikipedia:

    “As of September, five months after the fire, investigators thought the cause of the fire was more likely an electrical fault than a cigarette. Determining the exact place in which the fire started was expected to take a great deal more time and work.[116] By 15 April 2020, investigators believed “the fire to have been started by either a cigarette or a short circuit in the electrical system”.[117]”

    So, the cause of the most notorious church fire of the century was either a cigarette or a short circuit.

  36. @Coemgen

    From Wikipedia:

    “As of September, five months after the fire, investigators thought the cause of the fire was more likely an electrical fault than a cigarette. Determining the exact place in which the fire started was expected to take a great deal more time and work.[116] By 15 April 2020, investigators believed “the fire to have been started by either a cigarette or a short circuit in the electrical system”.[117]”

    So, the cause of the most notorious church fire of the century was either a cigarette or a short circuit.

    • Replies: @Altai
  37. Please note: “churches attracting firebugs and the ire of the inane” was a typo.

    I attract the ire of the inane, churches attract the ire of the insane.

  38. @Dumbo

    or maybe they know something that most people don’t

    Elaborate.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  39. Altai says:

    My favourite part of all this is if you described many of the actions to an American 80 years ago, they might assume, sans the confederate statues, this was all the work of the KKK or some other anti-Catholic forces or that Catholics and Protestants were tearing down statues tit for tat. The Duffy statue in Times Square is looking a bit vulnerable (If you’re looking for it, it has some serious fascist energy) should a category 5 riot start should Chauvin and his colleges get off the murder charges or all the charges.

    The statue of Columbus in Richmond had been protested by politicians who it was later revealed had ties to the KKK, causing a mini national scandal and leading to the statue being erected.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Christopher_Columbus_(Richmond,_Virginia)

    In May 1925, the Richmond City Council rejected a proposal to donate land for the statue alongside Monument Avenue on the basis that Columbus was both a foreigner and a Catholic; most of the council members believed that putting Columbus near monuments to revered Confederate figures would be inappropriate. This decision was widely criticized in newspaper editorials published across the United States, especially when it came to light that an opponent of the statue who spoke at the meeting was a member of a coalition that included the Ku Klux Klan. In June 1925, a committee of the Richmond city council decided to allocate land near Byrd Park for the statue. Fundraising began in February 1926 while Ferruccio Legnaioli, an Italian immigrant to Richmond, was selected to design the statue. Ground was broken in June 1926.

    95 years later…

    On June 9, 2020, the statue was torn down, spray-painted, set on fire, and thrown into a nearby lake by individuals protesting the May 2020 killing of George Floyd. The protestors stated they were acting in solidarity with Native Americans; vandalism to the statue’s base noted it was built on land belonging to the Powhatan. The statue was recovered from the lake on June 10 and taken away to be stored in a secure place

    • Replies: @Pontius
  40. Altai says:
    @Steve Sailer

    The starting position of the fire would tend to indicate an accident. If you were in the eaves and intent to set it on fire, you wouldn’t start under the spire. You’d set the open spaces, that is easy to move around in, that you were in on fire and do just as good a job.

  41. Altai says:
    @Miro23

    She’s the head of the London police (‘The Met’, The Metropolitan Police Service) what’s weirder is she didn’t say what the officers did was wrong but still apologised.

  42. Wonder if we’re going to see some Brown on White violence next time a Mission burns or a conquistador statue gets toppled?

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
  43. By the way, that reminds me, have they figured out who or what burned down Notre Dame in Paris yet?

  44. IHTG says:

    We shouldn’t overgeneralize from a small sample size

    Unless you want to try to make reverse hate hoaxes a thing?

  45. @Clifford Brown

    Microsoft recently produced this ad with Marina Abramovich.

    Abramovich invited John Podesta (Hillary’s 2016 campaign chairman) to a “spirit cooking.” This was revealed by the 2016 Wikileaks hack of John Podesta’s e-mails. See below.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Podesta

    Among a tranche of emails leaked from John Podesta and published by WikiLeaks in the run-up to the 2016 US presidential election was a message from Abramović to Podesta’s brother discussing an invitation to a spirit cooking, which was interpreted by conspiracy theorist Alex Jones as an invitation to a satanic ritual, and presented by Jones and others as proof that Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton had links with the occult.

    Abramovich is into a lot of Occult stuff. She does Occult performance shows that depict Satanism and cannibalism. Interestingly, these Occult shows are well-attended by a huge number of influential and famous people (especially celebrities).

    Here’s a Youtube video of her “spirit cooking.” It seems to be a bizarre and bloody Satanic ritual. So if you’re squeamish, skip it.

    This article discusses her Occult activities in more detail.

    https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/microsoft-releases-and-deletes-an-ad-with-elite-occultist-marina-abramovic/

    Why would so many elites want to watch such shows?

    It makes you wonder.

  46. songbird says:

    Reminds me a bit of Ireland in 1798.

    • Replies: @Muggles
  47. JMcG says:
    @Charles St. Charles

    Mid 2021 is when we can expect to see one.

  48. Bugg says:

    Wiki of NY Bishop John Hughes:

    “In 1844 anti-Catholic riots instigated by Nativist agitators threatened to spread to New York from Philadelphia, where two churches had been burned and twelve people had died. Hughes put armed guards at Catholic churches and, after learning a Nativist rally was scheduled to take place in New York, famously told the Nativist sympathizing mayor that “if a single Catholic Church were burned in New York, the city would become a second Moscow” – a reference to the Fire of Moscow.[10] City leaders took him at his word, and the anti-Catholic faction was not allowed to conduct its rally.”

    I consider myself a retired Catholic. There are still many good men who become priests. Sadly most of those men do not become bishops in the Catholic Church of the Marxist AntiPope Francis. We could use a John Hughes or 100.

    Were several pro-NYPD rallies in Staten Island, Broooklyn and Rockaway, Queens, yesterday. They were well-attended, peaceful and positive. The media barely covered them. What BLM and Antifa there were were greatly outnumbered.

  49. Peterike says:

    “ it’s starting to sound like Barcelona in 1936 out there”

    And why not? The same people are behind both situations.

  50. @Single malt

    During Thursday’s ceremony to dedicate Jane Stanford Way, leaders of the Muwekma Ohlone Tribe welcomed the audience gathered in Memorial Court with a welcoming prayer and song delivered in Chochenyo, the language of their ancestors.

    If anybody can point to a good resource documenting Ohlone continuity I would be very interested to see it. I have looked into this topic a little and as far as I can tell they are utterly extinct and anybody in CA in 2020 who claims they are Ohlone is 95% probably totally fake. The best thing I have found is there is a newspaper article about a tiny band (<20) in rural Pleasanton in the 1920's. Pleasanton is now 80 000 whiteys and chinks. Ohlone is not a government recognized tribe. It is more of a small business a little bit bigger than Bart and Lisa Simpson's lemonade stand. Plenty of their genes must have persisted into the mix but I live at ground zero and I expect to die before I ever meet a whole breed Ohlone.

  51. Kyle says:
    @Coemgen

    Inside outlets don’t have GFI’s. Especially older ones, like I’d imagine you’d find in a cathedral. Contractors tend to use really old beat up extension cord, often with bad kinks in them. They use them until catastrophic failure. Circuit breakers and fuses do their jobs for sure. I’m not an electrician or an electrical engineer, but I have read my circuit analysis textbook cover to cover, and I have read relevant bits and pieces of the national electric code. I get the sense that circuit breakers aren’t idiot proof. My logic is that bathrooms and outdoor outlets are required to have GFI outlets according to the NEC. If circuit breakers did everything, this wouldn’t be the case.

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    , @Jack D
  52. May 24

    What’s the significance of that date? Just as you used to like to do a control-f for “migra,” one can do a control-f for “corona” in these posts, as that is something you seem dedicated to ignoring. That was the motive for the church burning in Mississipi.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/us/mississippi-church-arson-coronavirus.html

    Whether a group can be blamed for the actions of crazy followers depends, I think, on how reasonable the original rhetoric is. If people are burning churches because of the Bureau of Land Management, I will put some blame on the Bureau because much of what it’s saying is not true. In contrast, if the church burnings are due to people sharing my views on coronavirus, I take no responsibility for it because I am telling the truth. If more people told the truth, maybe people in that church would have listened and it would still be standing today. To be clear I condemn all vigilante attempts at enforcing the social distancing laws, that is a job for the state.

  53. @JohnnyWalker123

    Why would so many elites want to watch such shows?

    Your reaction is exactly why. Same reason 4Chan likes to say the n-word: the desire to trigger the outgroup and feel like a “rebel.”

  54. Anon[342] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles St. Charles

    What we need is a Franco.

    Agree 100%

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  55. Hibernian says:
    @Kronos

    Anti-Catholicism persists on the theological, cultural, and political Far Left and Far Right. With the passage of time it’s more on the Left and less on the Right.

    • Agree: Kronos, BB753
    • Replies: @Art Deco
  56. Trinity says:

    So they are burning Christian churches and leaving synagogues and mosques untouched? Can you imagine if they were burning synagogues or mosques only? Funny, IF you know REAL history, you will know that while the Bolsheviks torched Christian churches, they left synagogues alone. IF you know REAL history, you will that during the (((French Revolution))) know that they blamed religion for their lack of freedoms, but the American Revolution based freedom on the right to worship. (Christianity.)

    • Replies: @BB753
  57. 3g4me says:

    “Dear Holders of the Megaphone: You spent years getting us to worry about “triggering” people. Do you ever worry that what you’ve been doing since May 24 might be triggering dangerous lunatics?

    Classic Sailer: Dear leaders, we all recognize you are reasonable and rational, so let me ever so gently mock and chide you for your excesses. Perhaps someday you’ll go too far, and then . . . I will ever so gently mock and chide you for your excesses. And now you’ve gone too far, sir! Let me ever so gently mock and chide you for your excesses. Dear leaders, surely you realize what you’re doing? Even though we are a motley collection of the world’s flotsam and jetsam, if we just pushed being citizens and a national myth celebrating black jazz and Jewish films, we could all get along! But dear leaders, you are driving an artificial wedge (that surely does not exist in nature) between wildly disparate peoples, setting one against the other, instead of our natural state of perfect harmony. Let me ever so gently mock and chide you for your excesses!

    • LOL: BB753
    • Replies: @Anon
  58. Art Deco says:
    @Hibernian

    Pretty much died out on the right when Jimmy Swaggart’s career went tits up.

  59. MrLiberty says:

    Being burned alive should always be the punishment for arson, especially if the lives of others are threatened by the act.

  60. OFWHAP says:
    @Charlotte

    Friendly reminder: Joggers LOVE construction sites!

  61. @Anonymous

    “Pussification of males/Hysterical females fill the void”.
    What a great summary of the current cultural situation in a nutshell.
    It also describes the leadership style in many or most churches which are becoming feminized and liberalized.

  62. Neuday says:
    @robot

    OT: Are there any funny recent fictional satires of woke-ism?

    Dunno. But if you’d like some non-fictional satires of woke-ism, you might try Steve Sailer’s blog.

  63. Neuday says:
    @Anonymous

    Immigrants help make America great
    Sudip Parikh for Science Magazine

    Yeah, that’s why America is a totally much better place that it was before Hart-Cellar. The thought of a 90% White America, it would be so weak, we’d hardly have the manpower and money to fight middle-east wars. The horror!

  64. syonredux says:

    A tragic loss….

    • Replies: @syonredux
  65. syonredux says:
    @syonredux

    You know, California doesn’t have so many 249-year-old buildings that we can afford to have one burn down.

    And that’s the extra kick in the face. California isn’t Massachusetts or Virginia. Their architectural heritage is much thicker:

    Ours is so scanty…..

  66. Dumbo says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Nothing, except that many people in the elite seem to really believe in occult symbolism and in the concrete existence of supernatural entities, and I am now assuming a lot of the rumours about satanist rituals and sacrifices orgies etc are actually true. Not that I have any proof, but it seems to be what attracts lots of these people.

    If I think about Polanski, for instance, a lot of his films are about demons, devils, murder, evil, Hell, sexual maniacs, etc, so I’m not completely surprised that he was involved in child rape and that one of his wives ended up murdered by psychopaths. It’s sort of what’s expected in that environment.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  67. A statue of Junipero Serra stands in the US Capitol, courtesy of CA.

    The other CA statue honors Ronnie.

  68. @JohnnyWalker123

    This article discusses her Occult activities of Marina Abramovic in more detail.

    Why would so many elites want to watch such shows?

    It makes you wonder.

    The longing for appreciation/appraisal/attention and being thrilled – – – – plus – a longing for transcendence.

  69. @JohnnyWalker123

    Marina Abramovich and Bill Gates. Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Gates. Bill Gates and vaccines. This is killer horror thriller material.

    • Replies: @sayless
  70. @Clifford Brown

    Marina and Lord Rothschild are essentially Gnostics. They believe the god of this world rewards ritual acts of evil with spiritual evolution.

  71. @Anon

    “Agree 100%”

    Replace leftist authoritarianism with rightist authoritarianism. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. We’ll only get fooled again.

    • Replies: @Anon
  72. @Single malt

    At the dedication Thursday, the Stanford American Indian Organization presented Stanford with a Pendleton blanket in gratitude for the renaming process.

    That’s pretty honorable. Was it because American Indians are honorable, or because it was way back in 2019? Maybe in 2020 they would get with the times and do some kind of football-spike war dance while crapping on the Stanford administration in the national press for taking so long to meet their demands.

    • Replies: @Single malt
  73. S says:

    Speaking of things on fire in California, about a hundred a fifty miles south of the recent church fire the USS Bonhomme Richard has been on fire at the San Diego naval base the past almost four hours. It’s been undergoing maintenance and only a much reduced crew of a couple hundred sailors was on board at the time. One hundred fifty fire fighters have been assigned to fight it.

    The ship was so named in honor of Ben Franklin (a sometimes slave dealer IIRC) and his famous Poor Richard’s Almanac.

    No doubt we’ll find out more as this is investigated, but, with the current political atmosphere, would they tell us if this was determined to likely have been an act of sabotage?

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-12/fire-uss-bonhomme-richard-naval-base-san-diego

  74. Anon[167] • Disclaimer says:

    Not just churches are being targeted.

    Virgin Mary statue set on fire at Boston Catholic church, officials say

    https://www.wcvb.com/article/virgin-mary-statue-set-on-fire-at-boston-church-saint-peter-parish-in-dorchester/33287717

    Updated: 11:29 AM EDT Jul 12, 2020


    A Virgin Mary statue outside Saint Peter Parish in Boston’s Dorchester neighborhood was set on fire on July 11, 2020.

    BOSTON —
    Boston police are investigating an arson at a Boston church after a Virgin Mary statue was set on fire Saturday night.

    Officers responded at about 10 p.m. to a report of a fire near Saint Peter Parish in the city’s Dorchester neighborhood.

    Upon arrival, the officers saw that a statue of the Blessed Virgin Mary had been set on fire…

    “…And while religious Judaism has a decidedly negative view towards all non-Jews, Christianity in particular is regarded as a total abomination, which must be wiped from the face of the earth… many deeply religious Jews utter a prayer each and every day for the immediate extermination of all Christians.”

    Ron Unz, American Pravda: Oddities of the Jewish Religion, July 16, 2018
    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-oddities-of-the-jewish-religion/

    • Thanks: BB753
  75. Anon[540] • Disclaimer says:

    Slightly OT, since it’s also “suddenly a thing” to find 15% of a class of girls to be transgender.

    Don’t be put off by Abigail Shrier being jewish.. she has perfect pitch: brief, sympathetic, non-judgmental, great talking points.

    This might be a Sackler type scam, if you could get 15% of white women to take medically approved hormones, and it amounted to $1,000 per person per year, would that be a 7 billion USD market?

    Also, a couple months back, there was a commentator here at Unz pretty distraught because his teen girl was crying “transgender”!

  76. Anon[540] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I don’t even think it’s Overton’s window.

    Satanism exists, it requires followers. She’s at least the Soros for Satanists: the fanatic frontman for a whole group of people who believe.

    To you it’s anti-human madness. To them, it’s the good fight.

  77. Anon[379] • Disclaimer says:
    @3g4me

    Fed poster.

    • LOL: 3g4me
  78. Anon[386] • Disclaimer says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Replace leftist authoritarianism with rightist authoritarianism. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. We’ll only get fooled again.

    Yeah bro, don’t worry liberal democracy will eventually come around…lol

    Take another bong hit.

    “Don’t worry, about a thing, cuz every little thing gonna be ahright”!

  79. Muggles says:
    @songbird

    >>Reminds me a bit of Ireland in 1798.<<

    So, fill us in on what it was like? You are much older than the rest of us here.

  80. Anon[386] • Disclaimer says:
    @S

    The ship was so named in honor of Ben Franklin (a sometimes slave dealer IIRC) and his famous Poor Richard’s Almanac.

    Uh, no, the USS Bonhomme Richard was John Paul Jones flagship when he defeated the HMS Serapis at the Battle of Flamborough Head.

    • Replies: @res
  81. Hans says:
    @Anon

    I remember being astonished when (((Krishna Das))) couldn’t help but take a dig at Christianity during one of his “gigs” I wasted money on. I had a good laugh at my naivete afterwards.

    • Replies: @anon
  82. @Kyle

    GFCI and circuit breakers serve two separate functions. A circuit breaker is to prevent an electrical fire, a GFCI is to prevent a human from being electrocuted.

    For the wires in the walls (or where the wires in the walls connect to an electrical outlet) a current over, say, 20 amps will cause the wiring to heat up enough that it can catch the wall studs on fire or the housing around the electrical outlet, etc. If you plug in a short circuit, for example just a stout wire between the two prongs you can easily pull that kind of current. So the circuit breaker is needed to shut off the current before the wall bursts into flame.

    Unfortunately, a current of 100 milliamps (or even less) is enough to electrocute a human–that’s less by a factor of 200. You can’t make the circuit breaker trip at 100 milliamps because then you couldn’t get enough power out of the wall outlet to do useful things. 120 Volts X 100 milliamps = 12 watts = won’t even power a light bulb, much less an oven.

    Skin is not terribly conductive so if you touch a bare wire at 120V you usually won’t pull enough current to kill you, but if your are wet (or in the bathtub) you most definitely can pull more than 100 millamps and kill yourself.

    Enter the GFCI (ground fault circuit interrupt) Those outlets have a special feature, they constantly measure the current going in one prong, and current going out the other prong. If all is working well, the currents should be equal. If there is a leak in the circuit, a path to ground that current can flow through (for example somebody’s wet skin touching the exposed coils of a hair dryer) then some of the current will be diverted and the current in each prong will not be equal. This will trip the outlet and shut off the current before the current reaches potentially lethal levels.

    • Thanks: Coemgen
    • Replies: @Jack D
  83. Russ says:
    @anon

    ‘Tear Them Down’: BLM Activist Shaun King Calls For Destruction Of Jesus Christ Statues, Churches: ‘White Supremacy,’ ‘Oppression,’ ‘Racist Propaganda’

    *Note: King is OBVIOUSLY a white man. Just look at his picture in the article.

    Was it not Marcus Garvey who, upon his first visit to NAACP headquarters, asked where all the CP were?

    • Replies: @res
  84. Russ says:
    @Single malt

    Pertinent to St. Junípero Serra’s current standing in California, Stanford University, last fall, renamed Serra Mall, the road alongside its magnificent quad, to Jane Stanford Way.

    Isn’t Stanford itself now in dire need of renaming? And if the DC football team rebrands to (Tuskegee) Red Tails, is that a one-point shift on the intersectionality matrix?

  85. anon[391] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hans

    Krishna Das, born (((Jeff Kagel))) in New York, brief lead singer for Blue Oyster.

    Sorta like (((Richard Alpert))) who was hanging around with Timothy Leary for a while before going to India and becoming Ram Dass.

    Fakir is an Indian word…but in a sense so is Faker.

  86. “You know, California doesn’t have so many 249-year-old buildings that we can afford to have one burn down.”

    Especially since it stood for nearly 250 yrs without burning down, much less touched by an earthquake. In the case of Serra, it does appear to be a pattern. First they graphically tear down his statue, and then they burn down his church.

    Either that, or its an alum who’s really pissed that Junipero Serra HS defeated Saint Francis because Junipero Serra HS’s star WR Lynn Swann caught the winning TD in the final minutes of the big game. Either that or Junipero Serra HS’s star QB Tom Brady threw the winning TD in the final minutes of the game to defeat Saint Francis. After two generations of losing to Serra, something had to give, and so Serra had to go one way or the other.

  87. @Anon

    From RU’s essay:

    many deeply religious Jews utter a prayer each and every day for the immediate extermination of all Christians.

    I think he’s referring to one section of a central, daily prayer (the Amidah).

    In the modern-day traditional, Ashkenazi prayerbook, the section in question makes a very mealy-mouthed imprecation on “heretics”, not Christians per se.

    One could argue that when the section was added to the original prayer (as a codicil), that the targeted heretics were the nascent (Jewish-) Christians. But it’s quite an abject distortion for RU to claim that it calls for Christian annihilation today.

    In the Sephardic prayerbook, the section imposes a (personally satisfying) curse on the government (maybe as a reaction to the expulsion from Spain). By RU’s sort of interpretation, that’s virulent TDS.

  88. Pontius says:
    @Altai

    You know what would show solidarity with the native peoples of this continent?

    Packing all of your shit in a suitcase and leaving forever.

    It is the height of hypocrisy to decry the genocidal/racist/colonial origins of a nation and then continue to live comfortably off the spoils won by those same white devils.

    In or out.

    Out? Beak away.

    In? Shut your pie hole.

    • Agree: Liza
  89. RSDB says:

    By the way, I don’t know if anybody here cares, but the Catholic churches bombed by millionaire jihadists in Sri Lanka were repaired a while ago:

    St. Sebastian’s, Katuwapitiya, Negombo

    St. Anthony’s, Kotahena (Colombo 13)

    Don’t know about the Zion Church in Batticaloa, I hope they’re carrying on too.

    • Replies: @Anon
  90. @anon

    Regardless of whether King is actually a “zero-drop” whitey, he has the fallback of declaring himself transblack.

    Thus anti-WokeBorg types who refuse to unreservedly believe anything he says, writes, or thinks, face an epistemic dilemma: their failure to assimilate is either racism or anti-trans.

    Yank god-botherers should have no problem adapting themselves to this: after all, it’s what Pascal’s Wager is all about – viz., a deliberate attempt to feign belief until it ‘sticks’, based on entirely-venal prophylaxis (i.e., the desire to avoid the eternity of conscious torment that awaits non-believers).

    Those who fail to be assimilated into the WokeBorg are making the same bet: if they refuse to make the correct noises, they risk having their lives destroyed.

    Be thankful that the torment is not eternal.

  91. @Faraday's Bobcat

    I was puzzled by the gift of the Pendleton blanket. I’m not going to bother looking up the genesis of the Pendleton company, but I think Pendleton is a pure SWPL brand. The original name of The Beach Boys was “The Pendletons”! This because the woolen Pendleton shirt was de rigueur in the early ‘60s for surfer dudes; I got one for Christmas in ‘62 because the shirt was considered “bitchin” at Northridge Jr High.

  92. @Clifford Brown

    The Guibourg and La Voisin of the Obama era?

    • LOL: BB753
  93. sayless says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Also, Fauci and Bill Gates.

  94. RSDB says:
    @Single malt

    At the dedication Thursday, the Stanford American Indian Organization presented Stanford with a Pendleton blanket in gratitude for the renaming process. University leadership and leaders of the Associated Students of Stanford University accepted the gift.

    I think this is what they were going for: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Fort_Pitt#Handoff_of_infirmary_items

    Out of our regard to them we gave them two Blankets and an Handkerchief out of the Small Pox Hospital. I hope it will have the desired effect.

  95. res says:
    @Anon

    Uh, no, the USS Bonhomme Richard was John Paul Jones flagship when he defeated the HMS Serapis at the Battle of Flamborough Head.

    And who was that ship named for?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Bonhomme_Richard_(LHD-6)

    USS Bonhomme Richard (LHD-6) is a Wasp-class amphibious assault ship, and the third ship of the United States Navy to bear the name.[2] She was named in honor of John Paul Jones’ famous frigate, which he had named in French “Good Man Richard”, in honor of Benjamin Franklin, the U.S. Ambassador to France at the time; “Richard” is derived from Franklin’s Poor Richard’s Almanac.

    P.S. If you are going to start a comment with “Uh, no” perhaps make a little more effort to be completely correct?

  96. Jack D says:
    @Kyle

    GFCI’s exist more to prevent shocks than fires. They detect if the amount of current returning on the neutral wire is the same as the amount being fed in on the hot. If it detects an imbalance that means that it is taking another path to ground such as thru your body and the GFCI trips instantly. But you faulty toaster could give you a shock that would knock your socks off and it still wouldn’t cause a fire.

    The newer arc-fault circuit interrupter (AFCI’s) breaks the circuit when it detects an electric arc such as from a frayed extension cord. Unlike ground faults, arc faults DO lead to fires because arcing creates heat and sparks. Since 2014, AFCI’s have been required in new construction to protect most residential circuits. But since most housing was built before 2014 and existing installations are grandfathered, it will take decades before they are found in most homes.

  97. Jack D says:
    @SimpleSong

    Skin is not terribly conductive so if you touch a bare wire at 120V you usually won’t pull enough current to kill you, but if your are wet (or in the bathtub) you most definitely can pull more than 100 millamps and kill yourself.

    The mechanism by which 100 milliamps can kill you is that it disrupts the electrical rhythm of your heart. So in order to kill you path to ground has to be thru your heart. In addition to the fact that skin is not very conductive, if the path of the current is say between your thumb and forefinger on the same hand, nothing much is going to happen – maybe you’ll get an electrical burn. So if you have to work on a live circuit (not a good idea anyway) it’s a good idea to keep one hand in your pocket and wear rubber soled shoes and then you are less likely to create a path to ground that will pass thru your heart.

  98. syonredux says:
    @S

    The ship was so named in honor of Ben Franklin (a sometimes slave dealer IIRC)

    Not to the best of my knowledge. Franklin owned some domestic slaves during his life (no more than seven total), and his newspapers contained paid advertisements for slaves, but he did not personally deal in slaves.

    • Replies: @S
  99. @Robert Dolan

    They aren’t Christians. They “identify” as Christians, Catholics, etc. You see, because shitlib atheists who don’t really care about churches burning down are just as Christian as anyone else. Pope Francis is a great example of someone who rejects not only Catholicism but even Christianity in any meaningful sense. And yet you MUST call him Pope according to a lot of “trads” even. People who aren’t Christians don’t become Christians because they want to appropriate the label.

  100. More Jews and Protestants than you think would be perfectly fine with destroying every Catholic monument. There has been a massive hate campaign against priests in the media for decades now. No discussion on youtube about rebuilding Notre Dame without remarks about clerical pedophilia, greed, the money that should be given to the poor, etc.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
  101. Anon[574] • Disclaimer says:

    City of Chicago (Lori ‘Groot’ Lightfoot) threatens to bulldoze Chicago churches if they don’t follow Covid-19 guidelines. Mind you, this is not locking them up. This is threatening to bulldoze them for being ‘public nuisances.’ What an utter bitch. Groot needs to be sued.

    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/churches-report-chicago-officials-are-threatening-to-bulldoze-their-facilities-for-not-complying-with-covid-19-mandates/

    • Thanks: GazaPlanet
  102. Anon[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @RSDB

    Thank you. The Faith will not die.

    • Thanks: RSDB
  103. njguy73 says:
    @robot

    The 1994 film PCU satirized the wokeism of that decade.

  104. “The Israeli Jewish Rabbi Benzi Gopstein has said that Christian churches in Israel must be burnt because Christians worship idols and idols must be destroyed.

    Gopstein, the head of Lehava group, made his remarks at a panel discussion for Jewish yeshiva students when asked by a fellow panellist if he believed burning down churches in Israel was justified.

    “Did the Rambam [Maimonides] rule to destroy [idol worship] or not? Idol worship must be destroyed. It’s simply yes – what’s the question?” Gopstein told the panel.”

    https://ppost24.com/post/506/israeli-jewish-rabbi-burning-christian-churches-in-israel-justifi

  105. @Redneck farmer

    Maybe. I won’t be feeling sorry for the pasty Yankee stock committing these acts in solidarity with BLM.

  106. Corvinus says:
    @anon

    Why bother? It’s funding month for the iSteve household. Got to cover his bases…

  107. @GazaPlanet

    Agreed.

    Both traditions (with exception of more moderate Protestants like Lutherans and Episcopalians) hate the obvious impressiveness of Catholic art/monuments. Jews and hardcore evangelical Protestants often display poor taste in decorating their homes, too. A real dearth of artistic sensibility.

    Also, child abuse is just as prevalent in Protestant churches (especially with “youth pastors” and teenage girls).

  108. BB753 says:
    @Trinity

    The French Revolution also meant payback for Protestants against Catholics. We tend to forget that hundreds of thousands of Catholics, priests and laymen alike, were massacred in the name of the freemasonic principles of “Liberté, fraternité et egalité”.

    • Replies: @Anon
  109. S says:
    @syonredux

    Thanks, that’s correct. I’d thought I had once read that Ben Franklin (like many others) had on occasion ‘speculated’ in slaves by investing in a slaver’s voyage to acquire slaves, which is what I meant by ‘a sometimes slave dealer’, but, apparently not.

    He had owned slaves for much of his life (at least thru 1774), however, which is plenty enough for some to want him purged. [See second link below.]

    By observing Franklin’s Last Will and Testament, which was written in 1757, where Franklin clearly stated “I will that my Negro man and his wife Jemima, be free after my Decease”

    http://www.personal.psu.edu/cjm5/blogs/benjamin_franklin_then_and_now/2013/04/benjamin-franklin-and-slavery.html

    http://pennandslaveryproject.org/exhibits/show/slaveownership/earlytrustees/benfrank

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  110. Anon[289] • Disclaimer says:
    @BB753

    Indeed. La Vendée was the first modern genocide.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @anon
  111. @S

    Franklin lived so long that he turned abolitionist in his old age, which gives him some cover.

  112. @S

    Bonhomme Richard, Jim Morrison’s father’s ship during the Gulf of Tonkin crisis.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/jim-morrisons-dad-had-a-hand-in-starting-the-vietnam-war-2016-3

  113. anon[336] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Rabid Catholic trolls are just as boring as rabid atheist trolls, who are just as boring as Jehovah’s Witnesses on the front porch or those non-denominational church guys on the street corner with old Jack Chick pamphlets.

    Dudes, it’s not 1572 or 1631 anymore, No way you will ever be able to murder all the Prots. Suggest you take up another hobby, maybe you’d fit in on a WoW campaign?

    • Troll: BB753
    • Replies: @BB753
    , @BB753
  114. BB753 says:
    @anon

    I know it’s the current year, yet Catholics are still being persecuted by the same people (Protestants, freemasons and Jews). Isn’t it still relevant to dwell on these topics?

    • Replies: @anon
  115. BB753 says:
    @anon

    Who said anything about killing Protestants? In any case, you’re next in line (Supposing you’re some kind of Protestant and not an atheist troll) for persecution by Liberals.

  116. anon[237] • Disclaimer says:
    @BB753

    I know it’s the current year, yet Catholics are still being persecuted by the same people (Protestants, freemasons and Jews).

    Describe the persecutions. Use details, locations, dates and times.

    Isn’t it still relevant to dwell on these topics?

    Dude, it’s always relevant to whiners to dwell endlessly on the wrongs the world has done to them. Normal people have other things to do, though, so “relevance” is kind of different for them.

    Who said anything about killing Protestants?

    Various Popes for various centuries. I didn’t pick the dates 1527 and 1631 at random, ya know. Plus the 18th century Vendee’ was hardly the first modern attempt at genocide in Europe, not even close. In fact, the 1793 Vendee’ fighting wasn’t the even first time people fled the Vendee’ to escape murderers. These are Clues for you, Blue.

    In any case, you’re next in line

    Nah, because there’s not religious persecution in the US. Just not. Not of any variety of Christian, not of Muslims, not of Jews, not of satanists, no one. Real persecution looks more like the church bombings in Sri Lanka, or the mass killings in Iraq, or what North Korea does, what the Chinese are doing in parts of the country, etc.

    You’re just a whiny one-sided whiner, similar to our pet Hasbaras. Are you sure you aren’t at least part Jewish?

    • Replies: @BB753
  117. BB753 says:
    @anon

    Are you sure you aren’t at least part-Troll?

    What more proof do you need of persecution? Churches were shut down by the government during the lockdown but abortion clinics weren’t.
    They’re topling down Catholic statues, burning down churches, assaulting Catholics in California and Saint Louis. Isn’t that persecution?
    Moreover, Catholics aren’t allowed to criticize laws and behaviors which are sinful to them like same-sex “marriage”, homosexuality, abortion, transexualism, etc. The other side can shut them down with “hate speech” laws and take their kids away.
    As for persecution of Protestants, I can’t think of a single instance since the XVII th century. Though it might hurt you to find out that Martin Luther is still listed as a heretic by the Roman Catholic Church.

    Ever since the establishment of modern freemasonry in the early XVIII century in London, their goal has been to destroy Throne (Catholic monarchies) and Altar (the Roman Catholic Church) . They were successful in both endeavors in 1776 during the American Revolution and the French Revolution in 1789. They finished off the job in 1918 after the defeat of Austria-Hungary, the last Catholic Monarchy and by making sure only masonic monarchs (like the British royals) were allowed to rule. In Russia, the Romanov dinasty and their Catholic Orthodox dinasty had to be wiped out by the Bolsheviks (all of them masons).

    As for the Vatican, you’ll be happy to see that more than half of the cardinals are either gay or masons or both, and Pope Francis acts and talks like a mason.
    Check out the book by Marshall Taylor, Infiltration, the plot to destroy the Church from within. Prefaced by bishop Athanasius Schneider. It’s on Amazon.

    • Replies: @BB753
  118. BB753 says:
    @BB753

    More on the persecution of Catholics and Christians in general.

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