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From the Chicago Tribune:

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot rips Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis for reopening beaches: ‘God help us all’

By GREGORY PRATT
CHICAGO TRIBUNE |
APR 20, 2020 | 4:19 PM

Chicago’s 30 miles of beach and other lakefront, being the windiest spots in the Windy City, are of course closed. That’s Settled Science!

But in Chicago last night from WGN TV:

Some guests are wearing masks, but basically this black house party looks like Jonathan Kay’s characterization of a typical in-your-face Super Spreader Event. Most of the West Side participants are quite young, so they aren’t in mortal danger, but no doubt many of them live with their moms and/or grandmas.

One thing the Windy City has a lot of compared to Los Angeles is park space. In the decades after the 1871 Fire, Chicago was laid out by city fathers whose motto was “Make No Small Plans.”

Perhaps Chicago authorities should encourage Chicagoans who feel they must socialize to socialize outdoors?

 
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  1. No doubt the officers of the CPD will be enthusiastically carrying out the Governor’s exhortation to intervene and break up such assemblies of fun-loving youngsters…

    • LOL: Unladen Swallow
  2. Who is Groot? And why do the police in Chicago liken the Mayor to a comic book space alien with the physiology of a tree?

    And what does this say about the “hold on power” (is that a word we use in a democracy) of a mayor when rank-and-file police have this nickname for her?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Inquiring Mind

    Get a life.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Inquiring Mind


    "And why do the police in Chicago liken the Mayor to a comic book space alien with the physiology of a tree?"
     
    I wonder that too.

    "Get a life."
     
    Would love to. It happens to be forbidden at the moment.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind

  3. These types of videos always have a ‘lovely lady’ in the background speaking in a dialect that I have yet to understand.

  4. Is it possible to b estow a Darwin Award on an entire city?

    • LOL: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @James Speaks

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman

    Replies: @Johnny Rico

  5. When I party, I party hearty, fun is on my mind.

    Put a smile, on your face, leave that COVID behind.

  6. anon[539] • Disclaimer says:

    Saturday I drove to a remote trailhead in the Cascades to go for a solitary hike. The parking area was closed due to Corona virus. I parked my car on the side of the forest service road and hiked in anyway. My car was the only vehicle there.
    When I came out I found the forest service left a note on my car reminding me that the forests are closed and asking me to stay home next time. (No ticket, just a note).
    I can’t think of a less likely way to catch or spread the virus than hiking alone in the wilderness.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    @anon

    We owe hemlock some pain for killing Socrates. Go spread the virus among the Tsuga, they're close in name, if not relation.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @anon

    539, The way government works is like this, the forest is closed, but the Forest Service still works. The beach is closed but the life guards are probably still on the payroll. Schools are shuttered but no teachers are laid off or administrators furloughed. Your hike justified the need to patrol the forest. A forest ranger thanks you. Oh, I hope they don't find a decomposing body anywhere near where you hiked.

    Replies: @obwandiyag

    , @Ancient Briton
    @anon

    If you are shot dead in Chicago and test positive for WuFlu, how is that counted?

    Replies: @Cortes, @Achmed E. Newman, @Bill Jones

    , @Federalist
    @anon


    I can’t think of a less likely way to catch or spread the virus than hiking alone in the wilderness.
     
    True. But that's not really what it's about.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @Anon
    @anon


    Saturday I drove to a remote trailhead in the Cascades to go for a solitary hike.... I can’t think of a less likely way to catch or spread the virus than hiking alone in the wilderness.
     
    The problem is, the hike was only solitary because you broke the rules. Had the trail (which I assume is not 10 feet wide) not been closed, you would have been in a crowd. Government has to make broad, easy-to-communicate, easy-to-enforce-with-limited-staff rules that mostly improve our prospects. The perfect is the enemy of the good.

    The fact that you came out of this experience still the same entitled, smug guy that you entered it would seem to call for warning-free stiff initial fines collected by direct bank account garnishment. Hopefully your license plate number was entered into a police shit list.

    But I sympathize with the hell you must have been going through stuck in your house, with only the occasional grocery run for exercise, while others are leisurely dying or working in hospitals.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @JMcG, @Bill, @Achmed E. Newman, @Drahthaar, @Mr. Anon

    , @Bill P
    @anon

    Just leave a note on your car saying you're homeless and they'll leave you alone. They can't legally stop you from staying on federal land if you aren't causing a safety issue.

    I keep all the necessities for sleeping in the forest (Mt. Baker/Snoqualmie) in my trunk just in case I need to bail for whatever reason. You have every right to sleep where you want there, but you have to obey the regulations about hunting and fishing no matter what your situation. Also, it's not a bad idea to be friendly and kind to the other people staying there. There are more people living rent-free in the forests than most would imagine. Whole communities, in fact.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Glt
    @anon

    At least in Oregon, forest service lands are closed but most BLM land is open. Now I just need to find a map of BLM trailheads...

    https://www.blm.gov/oregon-washington/covid-access-restrictions

    , @Bill Jones
    @anon

    My son got one similar last week.

  7. Does anyone seriously believe that young people are going to stop partying and hooking up because of a virus that poses practically zero risk to them personally?

    BTW, it’s bizarre and somewhat amusing to see how America’s older generation has suddenly adopted Confucian values and embraced filial piety. I’m old enough to know better than to take it seriously, but just to make sure my kids keep this in perspective I’m going to force them to watch Saturday Night Fever while I provide a running commentary on the social trends of the 1970s.

    Stayin’ alive, stayin’ alive, ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin’ alive

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • LOL: Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    • Replies: @Zpaladin
    @Bill P

    Gays in the 90s didn’t stop partying even though there was considerable personal risk due to AIDS. Do, yeah, it is ridiculous to think that a .01% chance of dying from Covid will deter.

  8. It’s racist to treat blacks like adults

    • Agree: Pheasant
  9. Perhaps Chicago authorities should encourage Chicagoans who feel they must socialize to socialize outdoors?

    They’re asking them not to socialize at all. Looks like it’s working about like everything else vibrant.

  10. Well, if public health officials don’t get the idea that you’re less likely to get a disease on a beach, why should elected officials?

    • Agree: leterip
  11. If you look at Chicago shooting stats for this year (at least as of April 12th) , they were running ahead of last year, suggesting that compliance with the lockdown there isn’t high.

    • Replies: @Polynikes
    @Dave Pinsen

    Last stats I saw for NYC showed violent crimes up during the lockdown. It wouldn’t surprise me if this didn’t affect murder rates in Chicago. I don’t think drug dealing gangs are affected by recessions.

    Replies: @Ed

    , @Hodag
    @Dave Pinsen

    The winter of 18-19 im Chicago was a widowmaker - ie Jussie:s polar vortex. We had a mild winter this year. Crime apes the weather. Hotter = more crime.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Dave Pinsen


    If you look at Chicago shooting stats for this year (at least as of April 12th) , they were running ahead of last year, suggesting that compliance with the lockdown there isn’t high.
     
    Those citizens were just trying to enforce social distancing. Thin out the crowd.
  12. people in New York City and Chicago worry about states 1000 miles away while the subways and buses in their cities run non-stop for months.

    i’ll never not hate big democrat city people ever again after this episode, New Yorkers especially.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @prime noticer


    people in New York City and Chicago worry about states 1000 miles away while the subways and buses in their cities run non-stop for months.
     
    The amount of particulate being kicked up in the New York subways with those cars running through those tunnels at 40 miles an hour means riders are in a perpetually shaken snow globe of coronavirus.
  13. Some people have an I-Say-It’s-Spinach willfulness.

    NB, The Mayor, the president of the county board, and the state’s attorney in Cook County are all Sistahs. The Chief of Police is a black guy. Have they said anything at all? They put the Governor down in Springfield on the tube, and quote a press release from the Chicago PD. The Chicago PD don’t work for the Governor, and the Sheriff’s patrol is limited to some peripheral townships in Cook County.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Art Deco

    Sherriff mainly handles courthouse and jail security (and has done a poor job of preventing escapes and abuse of prisoners by guards [his deputies] and other prisoners) and takes himself very seriously. There are only very minimal unincorporated areas left in Cook county for the Sherriff's office to patrol.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

  14. Lightfoot lost all moral credibility when she was caught getting an illicit haircut. Which believe me did not help.

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @Known Fact

    This illicit haircut didnt' help with what?

    Her credibility or with her looks?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Hibernian

  15. @Art Deco
    Some people have an I-Say-It's-Spinach willfulness.

    NB, The Mayor, the president of the county board, and the state's attorney in Cook County are all Sistahs. The Chief of Police is a black guy. Have they said anything at all? They put the Governor down in Springfield on the tube, and quote a press release from the Chicago PD. The Chicago PD don't work for the Governor, and the Sheriff's patrol is limited to some peripheral townships in Cook County.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Sherriff mainly handles courthouse and jail security (and has done a poor job of preventing escapes and abuse of prisoners by guards [his deputies] and other prisoners) and takes himself very seriously. There are only very minimal unincorporated areas left in Cook county for the Sherriff’s office to patrol.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Hibernian

    I've seen Crook County Sheriff's officers patrolling the highways in Chicago, and have seen a female Sheriff's officer attempting to deliver (serve?) some document on some domicile across the street from me (resident not at home).

    Replies: @Hibernian

  16. @Dave Pinsen
    If you look at Chicago shooting stats for this year (at least as of April 12th) , they were running ahead of last year, suggesting that compliance with the lockdown there isn't high.

    Replies: @Polynikes, @Hodag, @AnotherDad

    Last stats I saw for NYC showed violent crimes up during the lockdown. It wouldn’t surprise me if this didn’t affect murder rates in Chicago. I don’t think drug dealing gangs are affected by recessions.

    • Replies: @Ed
    @Polynikes

    There are emerging reports that the subways have become even more crime ridden. There are more fights, assaults, robberies etc.

    My guess is the subways are becoming more enriched with diversity as mostly whites in prime manhattan/Brooklyn stay home.

    Replies: @peterike

  17. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    When times are good, white people tend to fight amongst themselves. When times are tough, white people tend to pull together.

    When times are good, black people tend to pull together. When times are tough, blacks tend to fight amongst themselves.

    Conclusion: Too many black people are too ignorant to understand times are tough, so after perceived circumstances go through the collective black logic blender… they throw coronavirus parties.

    • Agree: Pheasant
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uWvFT98bmo

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Anonymous

    "When times are tough, white people tend to pull together."

    And excrete corporate propaganda with inane "we're all in this together" ad copy.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Ozymandias

  18. Do you suppose that the Mayor of Chicago has the first clue how far Florida Beaches are from Chicago?
    Or that the weather is different there?
    Or that she has no jurisdiction to tell anybody in Florida a damned thing?

    Democrats, far more than Republican Politicians, are surrounded by underling employees who have never had a real job, Sycophantic Media Jackals, Academic Hustlers, and the Entertainment Industry and are so separated from reality that they are truly incapable of understanding the depths of their stupidity and arrogance. Or the slightest perception of everyday reality.

    One sustaining cheery thought: Over the next year, reality is going to bitch-slap them sideways.

    • Agree: Muggles
    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @theMann

    "...or that she has no jurisdiction..."

    The Mayor of Chicago in saying this does not care about public health policy in Florida. She is simply playing national politics as a prep cook for November, grabbing headline space yet again (and, by taking up headline space, crowding out contrary messaging) in order to re-inforce the Narrative and galvanize the shock troops. Like they used to say back at the Moscow Art Theater: Repetition, repetition, repetition.

    Her message has nothing to do with Florida. Her message is:

    1. Republicans (read White people) are evil and stupid, and must be defeated and then permanently destroyed, because Science.

    2. I am a powerful Sassy Black Lady and I approve of this message.

  19. The Mayor of Chicago really is trying to get her name out there for the Dem VP slot. After all, we know its guaranteed to a woman!*

    *offer not valid if Creepy Joe changes his mind.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    @R.G. Camara

    Even in a field that encompasses the gap tooth black lady,"Larry",as they call Miss Lightfoot,is just too unsightly. And nasty.
    When she took over,she changed the rules to take away the power alderman have over demolitions in their wards. So this coal plant wanted to blow up their smokestack and the alderman wanted to stop it,but couldnt,because of Larry.
    The demolition was a disaster,filling the hispanic neighborhood with environmental racism.
    "I deed not come to theese country to inhale toxic dust!",said one resident,whose name was,uhm, Juan Resident.
    "Eef I wanted to do that,I could have stayed home!"

  20. @anon
    Saturday I drove to a remote trailhead in the Cascades to go for a solitary hike. The parking area was closed due to Corona virus. I parked my car on the side of the forest service road and hiked in anyway. My car was the only vehicle there.
    When I came out I found the forest service left a note on my car reminding me that the forests are closed and asking me to stay home next time. (No ticket, just a note).
    I can't think of a less likely way to catch or spread the virus than hiking alone in the wilderness.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton, @Buffalo Joe, @Ancient Briton, @Federalist, @Anon, @Bill P, @Glt, @Bill Jones

    We owe hemlock some pain for killing Socrates. Go spread the virus among the Tsuga, they’re close in name, if not relation.

  21. @anon
    Saturday I drove to a remote trailhead in the Cascades to go for a solitary hike. The parking area was closed due to Corona virus. I parked my car on the side of the forest service road and hiked in anyway. My car was the only vehicle there.
    When I came out I found the forest service left a note on my car reminding me that the forests are closed and asking me to stay home next time. (No ticket, just a note).
    I can't think of a less likely way to catch or spread the virus than hiking alone in the wilderness.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton, @Buffalo Joe, @Ancient Briton, @Federalist, @Anon, @Bill P, @Glt, @Bill Jones

    539, The way government works is like this, the forest is closed, but the Forest Service still works. The beach is closed but the life guards are probably still on the payroll. Schools are shuttered but no teachers are laid off or administrators furloughed. Your hike justified the need to patrol the forest. A forest ranger thanks you. Oh, I hope they don’t find a decomposing body anywhere near where you hiked.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    @Buffalo Joe

    Would that private businesses worked like the government.

    And they could easily. More than half the work of their employees is redundant busywork.

    The US doesn't need all these private industry jobs. The current emergency proves it. All those make-work warm bodies are just there to justify the jobs and inflated salaries of the management.

    The government, on the other hand, knows what's what. People gotta eat. They're not going to put them out on the street. That's for private industry to do.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  22. @anon
    Saturday I drove to a remote trailhead in the Cascades to go for a solitary hike. The parking area was closed due to Corona virus. I parked my car on the side of the forest service road and hiked in anyway. My car was the only vehicle there.
    When I came out I found the forest service left a note on my car reminding me that the forests are closed and asking me to stay home next time. (No ticket, just a note).
    I can't think of a less likely way to catch or spread the virus than hiking alone in the wilderness.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton, @Buffalo Joe, @Ancient Briton, @Federalist, @Anon, @Bill P, @Glt, @Bill Jones

    If you are shot dead in Chicago and test positive for WuFlu, how is that counted?

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Ancient Briton

    Depends on the volatility index.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Ancient Briton

    Don't worry your pretty little head about that. The numbers are STAGGERING! Now get the hell inside... what's that? Where'd you get that Latte?

    , @Bill Jones
    @Ancient Briton

    Natural causes.

  23. @James Speaks
    Is it possible to b estow a Darwin Award on an entire city?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Okay. So that is a counterfeit LOL, right? Or homemade.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  24. @Ancient Briton
    @anon

    If you are shot dead in Chicago and test positive for WuFlu, how is that counted?

    Replies: @Cortes, @Achmed E. Newman, @Bill Jones

    Depends on the volatility index.

  25. @Hibernian
    @Art Deco

    Sherriff mainly handles courthouse and jail security (and has done a poor job of preventing escapes and abuse of prisoners by guards [his deputies] and other prisoners) and takes himself very seriously. There are only very minimal unincorporated areas left in Cook county for the Sherriff's office to patrol.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    I’ve seen Crook County Sheriff’s officers patrolling the highways in Chicago, and have seen a female Sheriff’s officer attempting to deliver (serve?) some document on some domicile across the street from me (resident not at home).

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Joe Stalin

    You're right Joe, I forgot about process service for evictions. As for patrolling the streets, they may have been transporting a prisoner; also they are on multi-agency task forces (usually gang and/or drug related) with the FBI, CPD, etc.

  26. @theMann
    Do you suppose that the Mayor of Chicago has the first clue how far Florida Beaches are from Chicago?
    Or that the weather is different there?
    Or that she has no jurisdiction to tell anybody in Florida a damned thing?

    Democrats, far more than Republican Politicians, are surrounded by underling employees who have never had a real job, Sycophantic Media Jackals, Academic Hustlers, and the Entertainment Industry and are so separated from reality that they are truly incapable of understanding the depths of their stupidity and arrogance. Or the slightest perception of everyday reality.

    One sustaining cheery thought: Over the next year, reality is going to bitch-slap them sideways.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “…or that she has no jurisdiction…”

    The Mayor of Chicago in saying this does not care about public health policy in Florida. She is simply playing national politics as a prep cook for November, grabbing headline space yet again (and, by taking up headline space, crowding out contrary messaging) in order to re-inforce the Narrative and galvanize the shock troops. Like they used to say back at the Moscow Art Theater: Repetition, repetition, repetition.

    Her message has nothing to do with Florida. Her message is:

    1. Republicans (read White people) are evil and stupid, and must be defeated and then permanently destroyed, because Science.

    2. I am a powerful Sassy Black Lady and I approve of this message.

    • Thanks: Mr McKenna
  27. This Lightfoot character is just jealous due to Florida having over 20X the length of beaches, nice wide ones with white sand (especially on the SW coast), and water that won’t shrink your testicles and exacerbate your Kung Flu. Nobody goes to Chicago to swim in Lake Michigan. We come to see the Penguin and get the band back together.

    I hope Mayor Lightfoot is no kin to this guy:

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Nobody goes to Chicago to swim in Lake Michigan.

    But having 30 miles of lakefront makes living in Chicago vastly more enjoyable. Plus, Chicago has huge parks for those who don't live near the lakefront.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @JimDandy, @Reg Cæsar, @ken

    , @Mike Zwick
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I have swam in Lake Michigan a lot. I always enjoyed it. Boating on the lake is another plus.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @AP

  28. @Ancient Briton
    @anon

    If you are shot dead in Chicago and test positive for WuFlu, how is that counted?

    Replies: @Cortes, @Achmed E. Newman, @Bill Jones

    Don’t worry your pretty little head about that. The numbers are STAGGERING! Now get the hell inside… what’s that? Where’d you get that Latte?

  29. @Achmed E. Newman
    This Lightfoot character is just jealous due to Florida having over 20X the length of beaches, nice wide ones with white sand (especially on the SW coast), and water that won't shrink your testicles and exacerbate your Kung Flu. Nobody goes to Chicago to swim in Lake Michigan. We come to see the Penguin and get the band back together.

    I hope Mayor Lightfoot is no kin to this guy:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYuF99VTEdg

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Mike Zwick

    Nobody goes to Chicago to swim in Lake Michigan.

    But having 30 miles of lakefront makes living in Chicago vastly more enjoyable. Plus, Chicago has huge parks for those who don’t live near the lakefront.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer

    Sure, yeah, the view's better with a shoreline, but I just saw one guy go jump in that lake when I was there in early May. Not for me. My point was that people drive 1,000 miles to go to Florida beaches, and 10's of millions have moved down there to live near them. Actually, now would be a good time for Midwesterners to take a nice road trip - I say, go to Clearwater/St. Pete. Yankees may no longer be welcome, for a while.

    Seattle has some big parks too. Discovery Park, on the NW portion of Magnolia Hill, is huge. There aren't attractions there, really, just a big place to have a great view from what must be at least a coupla' hundred feet above the Sound, of the Olympic Mountains. There's room to run and bike around, and in August, you can pick huge blackberries till your shirt is riddled with thorn holes.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    , @JimDandy
    @Steve Sailer

    Lots and lots and lots of people go swimming in Lake Michigan. This reminds me of how people ironically cite Chicago's incredibly tough gun laws when talking about all the gun crime there--but concealed carry actually became legal in Chicago some time ago.

    This Mayor's name is an appropriate mashup of "Lightweight" and "Clubfoot." As this plague first started becoming a serious problem, Lightfoot spoke with forked tongue, saying, basically, "Practice social distancing... buuuuut, if you're NOT sick--go out to a restaurant tonight and have dinner!" Then, a couple days later, when she announced shelter in place restrictions, she basically said, "Hey, you can still go out, go for a jog and get fresh air, no problem." Then black youths started hanging out at the lakefront and she got super-pissed, but took it out on the yuppies instead of the real culprits, with shrill scolding. "I said you could go out for a short walk, not run a 10k!" Yeah, people practicing for 10ks were the problem, Mayor. Right.

    Chicagoans got mad at her at first, but they quickly remembered that any criticism of a black lesbian is a hate crime, so they rebranded their anger into affectionate faux amusement/admiration over what a Strong Black Woman she is. The team she has around her has done a good job of using memes to push the narrative that she's not an inept, condescending, elite politician in over her head, but a folksy black momma tellin' like it is in a way no white person ever could.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    But having 30 miles of lakefront makes living in Chicago vastly more enjoyable.
     
    I always thought it ironic that capitalist Chicago has all this lakefront preserved for the public "in perpetuity", while radical, communitarian Madison, with more lakes, hence more lakefront, has so little.

    The Twin Cities have the best of both worlds, plenty of lakes, and plenty of both public and private space.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @ken
    @Steve Sailer

    When I drove through the city on a Sunday a few weeks back the side streets were teeming with foot and biking traffic. All the mayor accomplished was moving people a few blocks westward.

  30. @Bill P
    Does anyone seriously believe that young people are going to stop partying and hooking up because of a virus that poses practically zero risk to them personally?

    BTW, it's bizarre and somewhat amusing to see how America's older generation has suddenly adopted Confucian values and embraced filial piety. I'm old enough to know better than to take it seriously, but just to make sure my kids keep this in perspective I'm going to force them to watch Saturday Night Fever while I provide a running commentary on the social trends of the 1970s.

    Stayin' alive, stayin' alive, ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' alive

    Replies: @Zpaladin

    Gays in the 90s didn’t stop partying even though there was considerable personal risk due to AIDS. Do, yeah, it is ridiculous to think that a .01% chance of dying from Covid will deter.

  31. @R.G. Camara
    The Mayor of Chicago really is trying to get her name out there for the Dem VP slot. After all, we know its guaranteed to a woman!*

    *offer not valid if Creepy Joe changes his mind.

    Replies: @Father O'Hara

    Even in a field that encompasses the gap tooth black lady,”Larry”,as they call Miss Lightfoot,is just too unsightly. And nasty.
    When she took over,she changed the rules to take away the power alderman have over demolitions in their wards. So this coal plant wanted to blow up their smokestack and the alderman wanted to stop it,but couldnt,because of Larry.
    The demolition was a disaster,filling the hispanic neighborhood with environmental racism.
    “I deed not come to theese country to inhale toxic dust!”,said one resident,whose name was,uhm, Juan Resident.
    “Eef I wanted to do that,I could have stayed home!”

  32. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    Perhaps Chicago authorities should encourage Chicagoans who feel they must socialize to socialize outdoors?</blockquote Lightfoot is an indoor person with no grasp of the thinking of people who engage in the healthy lifestyles of outdoor activities. Definitely not a beach person. There's actually quite a number of people like that. Being out in the open with all the fresh air swirling around hardly seems to be a virus hotspot but try explaining that to a dumbbell. Both she and the corpulent governor act as though they are experts on this virus and issue edicts based on no particular understanding of anything.

  33. Couldn’t Chicago have found an attractive lesbian for mayor like Wisconsin did for Senate?

    Or better still, Arizona:

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @Lot

    Nah, in Chicago the mayor has to be black.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @flyingtiger

  34. @Buffalo Joe
    @anon

    539, The way government works is like this, the forest is closed, but the Forest Service still works. The beach is closed but the life guards are probably still on the payroll. Schools are shuttered but no teachers are laid off or administrators furloughed. Your hike justified the need to patrol the forest. A forest ranger thanks you. Oh, I hope they don't find a decomposing body anywhere near where you hiked.

    Replies: @obwandiyag

    Would that private businesses worked like the government.

    And they could easily. More than half the work of their employees is redundant busywork.

    The US doesn’t need all these private industry jobs. The current emergency proves it. All those make-work warm bodies are just there to justify the jobs and inflated salaries of the management.

    The government, on the other hand, knows what’s what. People gotta eat. They’re not going to put them out on the street. That’s for private industry to do.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @obwandiyag

    ob, and there is no redundancy in government jobs? And of course there are no inflated salaries in government or public srevice. Stay safe.

  35. @Inquiring Mind
    Who is Groot? And why do the police in Chicago liken the Mayor to a comic book space alien with the physiology of a tree?

    And what does this say about the "hold on power" (is that a word we use in a democracy) of a mayor when rank-and-file police have this nickname for her?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Almost Missouri

    Get a life.

  36. @Dave Pinsen
    If you look at Chicago shooting stats for this year (at least as of April 12th) , they were running ahead of last year, suggesting that compliance with the lockdown there isn't high.

    Replies: @Polynikes, @Hodag, @AnotherDad

    The winter of 18-19 im Chicago was a widowmaker – ie Jussie:s polar vortex. We had a mild winter this year. Crime apes the weather. Hotter = more crime.

  37. @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Nobody goes to Chicago to swim in Lake Michigan.

    But having 30 miles of lakefront makes living in Chicago vastly more enjoyable. Plus, Chicago has huge parks for those who don't live near the lakefront.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @JimDandy, @Reg Cæsar, @ken

    Sure, yeah, the view’s better with a shoreline, but I just saw one guy go jump in that lake when I was there in early May. Not for me. My point was that people drive 1,000 miles to go to Florida beaches, and 10’s of millions have moved down there to live near them. Actually, now would be a good time for Midwesterners to take a nice road trip – I say, go to Clearwater/St. Pete. Yankees may no longer be welcome, for a while.

    Seattle has some big parks too. Discovery Park, on the NW portion of Magnolia Hill, is huge. There aren’t attractions there, really, just a big place to have a great view from what must be at least a coupla’ hundred feet above the Sound, of the Olympic Mountains. There’s room to run and bike around, and in August, you can pick huge blackberries till your shirt is riddled with thorn holes.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Discovery Park was originally an Army Coast Artillery fort guarding Puget Sound, Fort Lawton.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  38. Californians are ignoring Governor Nuisance and going to the beach anyway. Time to bring back those Victorian bathing machines.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/gov-newsom-urges-californians-stay-home-heatwave-sends-desperate-californians-open-beaches

  39. @Known Fact
    Lightfoot lost all moral credibility when she was caught getting an illicit haircut. Which believe me did not help.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind

    This illicit haircut didnt’ help with what?

    Her credibility or with her looks?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Inquiring Mind

    Truth, is that you?

    , @Hibernian
    @Inquiring Mind

    Truth, is that you?

  40. @Joe Stalin
    @Hibernian

    I've seen Crook County Sheriff's officers patrolling the highways in Chicago, and have seen a female Sheriff's officer attempting to deliver (serve?) some document on some domicile across the street from me (resident not at home).

    Replies: @Hibernian

    You’re right Joe, I forgot about process service for evictions. As for patrolling the streets, they may have been transporting a prisoner; also they are on multi-agency task forces (usually gang and/or drug related) with the FBI, CPD, etc.

  41. “Safe at Home” has given a new meaning to one Chicago innovation. House music.

    Bringing House Home

    City cancels Gospel, House and Blues festivals

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
    @Reg Cæsar

    Without a couple of bullet holes everyone is going to know that "Greetings from Chicago" shirt is fake.

  42. @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Nobody goes to Chicago to swim in Lake Michigan.

    But having 30 miles of lakefront makes living in Chicago vastly more enjoyable. Plus, Chicago has huge parks for those who don't live near the lakefront.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @JimDandy, @Reg Cæsar, @ken

    Lots and lots and lots of people go swimming in Lake Michigan. This reminds me of how people ironically cite Chicago’s incredibly tough gun laws when talking about all the gun crime there–but concealed carry actually became legal in Chicago some time ago.

    This Mayor’s name is an appropriate mashup of “Lightweight” and “Clubfoot.” As this plague first started becoming a serious problem, Lightfoot spoke with forked tongue, saying, basically, “Practice social distancing… buuuuut, if you’re NOT sick–go out to a restaurant tonight and have dinner!” Then, a couple days later, when she announced shelter in place restrictions, she basically said, “Hey, you can still go out, go for a jog and get fresh air, no problem.” Then black youths started hanging out at the lakefront and she got super-pissed, but took it out on the yuppies instead of the real culprits, with shrill scolding. “I said you could go out for a short walk, not run a 10k!” Yeah, people practicing for 10ks were the problem, Mayor. Right.

    Chicagoans got mad at her at first, but they quickly remembered that any criticism of a black lesbian is a hate crime, so they rebranded their anger into affectionate faux amusement/admiration over what a Strong Black Woman she is. The team she has around her has done a good job of using memes to push the narrative that she’s not an inept, condescending, elite politician in over her head, but a folksy black momma tellin’ like it is in a way no white person ever could.

  43. @anon
    Saturday I drove to a remote trailhead in the Cascades to go for a solitary hike. The parking area was closed due to Corona virus. I parked my car on the side of the forest service road and hiked in anyway. My car was the only vehicle there.
    When I came out I found the forest service left a note on my car reminding me that the forests are closed and asking me to stay home next time. (No ticket, just a note).
    I can't think of a less likely way to catch or spread the virus than hiking alone in the wilderness.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton, @Buffalo Joe, @Ancient Briton, @Federalist, @Anon, @Bill P, @Glt, @Bill Jones

    I can’t think of a less likely way to catch or spread the virus than hiking alone in the wilderness.

    True. But that’s not really what it’s about.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Federalist


    True. But that’s not really what it’s about.
     

    James Cole: So now it's not about the virus at all. It's about following orders, doing what you're told.

    - Twelve Monkeys
     

    Replies: @Federalist

  44. This is the preamble to “Minority Communities Suffer Disproportionally in Epidemic”. To be followed by, “what was needed was more outreach and education to the disadvantaged who had no idea what contagious meant”. Again, Trumps fault.

    • Replies: @NOTA
    @Bernard

    Ironically, the black and American Indian communities really have suffered the most from this virus—it has cut a grizzly swath through NYC blacks and Indian reservatios. Presumably this is due to COVID-19’s implicit racism or their lack of white privilege or somerthing....

    Replies: @LondonBob, @anon

  45. @obwandiyag
    @Buffalo Joe

    Would that private businesses worked like the government.

    And they could easily. More than half the work of their employees is redundant busywork.

    The US doesn't need all these private industry jobs. The current emergency proves it. All those make-work warm bodies are just there to justify the jobs and inflated salaries of the management.

    The government, on the other hand, knows what's what. People gotta eat. They're not going to put them out on the street. That's for private industry to do.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    ob, and there is no redundancy in government jobs? And of course there are no inflated salaries in government or public srevice. Stay safe.

  46. “Viral video”. I see what she did there.

  47. @Bernard
    This is the preamble to “Minority Communities Suffer Disproportionally in Epidemic”. To be followed by, “what was needed was more outreach and education to the disadvantaged who had no idea what contagious meant”. Again, Trumps fault.

    Replies: @NOTA

    Ironically, the black and American Indian communities really have suffered the most from this virus—it has cut a grizzly swath through NYC blacks and Indian reservatios. Presumably this is due to COVID-19’s implicit racism or their lack of white privilege or somerthing….

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @NOTA

    If the PBS documentary on the Spanish Flu I saw the other day was accurate, and they didn't mention the multiple waves, American Indians were hard hit then too, white man's diseases, but also yellow man's too.

    , @anon
    @NOTA

    Grizzlies are racist.

  48. This exhibits one reason why a significant “herd immunity” for the overall population might not be necessary to slow the rate of transmission. The low hanging fruit for this virus will have a higher rate of infection; people who have a greater chance of contracting it by the nature of their job, or the vibrant types exhibiting the behavior shown here. For the same reasons they have a greater chance of contracting it, they will also have a greater chance of spreading it. If immunity is conferred then these people will soon not be spreading it around any more.

    Therefore “herd immunity” among these more likely spreaders will drop the transmission rate without a significant “herd immunity” for the total population; at least to some extent.

  49. @Lot
    Couldn’t Chicago have found an attractive lesbian for mayor like Wisconsin did for Senate?

    https://lgbtqnation-com-assets.imgix.net/2011/09/tammy-baldwin.jpg

    https://www.out.com/sites/out.com/files/2013/08/14/BaldwinM.png

    Or better still, Arizona:

    http://www.azmirror.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/SinemaKyrsten02.jpg

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    Nah, in Chicago the mayor has to be black.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @MBlanc46

    Or a Jew. Or a Daley.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    , @flyingtiger
    @MBlanc46

    No, They have to be short like the Daley's, Rahm, and Gordie,

    Replies: @MBlanc46

  50. @Federalist
    @anon


    I can’t think of a less likely way to catch or spread the virus than hiking alone in the wilderness.
     
    True. But that's not really what it's about.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    True. But that’s not really what it’s about.

    James Cole: So now it’s not about the virus at all. It’s about following orders, doing what you’re told.

    – Twelve Monkeys

    • Replies: @Federalist
    @Mr. Anon

    Woah. Apparently, that's a real quote from this movie. (I never saw it).

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  51. @Dave Pinsen
    If you look at Chicago shooting stats for this year (at least as of April 12th) , they were running ahead of last year, suggesting that compliance with the lockdown there isn't high.

    Replies: @Polynikes, @Hodag, @AnotherDad

    If you look at Chicago shooting stats for this year (at least as of April 12th) , they were running ahead of last year, suggesting that compliance with the lockdown there isn’t high.

    Those citizens were just trying to enforce social distancing. Thin out the crowd.

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  52. A lesbian trying to boss people around and keep them from having fun?

    Never seen that before.

    • Agree: JimDandy
    • LOL: Hibernian
  53. Anon[385] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    Saturday I drove to a remote trailhead in the Cascades to go for a solitary hike. The parking area was closed due to Corona virus. I parked my car on the side of the forest service road and hiked in anyway. My car was the only vehicle there.
    When I came out I found the forest service left a note on my car reminding me that the forests are closed and asking me to stay home next time. (No ticket, just a note).
    I can't think of a less likely way to catch or spread the virus than hiking alone in the wilderness.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton, @Buffalo Joe, @Ancient Briton, @Federalist, @Anon, @Bill P, @Glt, @Bill Jones

    Saturday I drove to a remote trailhead in the Cascades to go for a solitary hike…. I can’t think of a less likely way to catch or spread the virus than hiking alone in the wilderness.

    The problem is, the hike was only solitary because you broke the rules. Had the trail (which I assume is not 10 feet wide) not been closed, you would have been in a crowd. Government has to make broad, easy-to-communicate, easy-to-enforce-with-limited-staff rules that mostly improve our prospects. The perfect is the enemy of the good.

    The fact that you came out of this experience still the same entitled, smug guy that you entered it would seem to call for warning-free stiff initial fines collected by direct bank account garnishment. Hopefully your license plate number was entered into a police shit list.

    But I sympathize with the hell you must have been going through stuck in your house, with only the occasional grocery run for exercise, while others are leisurely dying or working in hospitals.

    • Troll: Manfred Arcane
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    The North Cascades National Park is one of the most uncrowded in the lower 48 states.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @JMcG
    @Anon

    The people who claim to hate fascism are universally the ones most attracted to it. Do you prefer to imagine yourself with the little toothbrush mustache or the larger Stalin model?

    , @Bill
    @Anon

    Have you even hiked, bro?

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Anon

    • Commie: Achmed E. Newman

    , @Drahthaar
    @Anon

    Very creepy, this health-based fascism to which many, stoked by fear, subscribe.

    Metro America needs badly to get socially comfortable again in open-air parks and public space.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Anon


    But I sympathize with the hell you must have been going through stuck in your house, with only the occasional grocery run for exercise, while others are leisurely dying or working in hospitals.
     
    Hell is other people. People like you, for instance.

    Trailheads in the Cascades are seldom if every crowded, even on a busy day.

    The rest of us need to find a way to not share a country with pusillanimous ratfink busybodies like you.

  54. @MBlanc46
    @Lot

    Nah, in Chicago the mayor has to be black.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @flyingtiger

    Or a Jew. Or a Daley.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @JimDandy

    It seems to me that blacks believe that the job should have belonged to them after Harold Washington. Perhaps it would have been if he’d lived longer. His death gave Daley fils a chance to grab it back, and he managed to hand it off to Emanuel. Now that the blacks have grabbed it back, it will take some doing to pry it away from them. Perhaps the Mexicans can eventually get ahold of it, if they keep coming in and the blacks keep leaving, but for some time to come, it’s going to be black.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  55. @anon
    Saturday I drove to a remote trailhead in the Cascades to go for a solitary hike. The parking area was closed due to Corona virus. I parked my car on the side of the forest service road and hiked in anyway. My car was the only vehicle there.
    When I came out I found the forest service left a note on my car reminding me that the forests are closed and asking me to stay home next time. (No ticket, just a note).
    I can't think of a less likely way to catch or spread the virus than hiking alone in the wilderness.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton, @Buffalo Joe, @Ancient Briton, @Federalist, @Anon, @Bill P, @Glt, @Bill Jones

    Just leave a note on your car saying you’re homeless and they’ll leave you alone. They can’t legally stop you from staying on federal land if you aren’t causing a safety issue.

    I keep all the necessities for sleeping in the forest (Mt. Baker/Snoqualmie) in my trunk just in case I need to bail for whatever reason. You have every right to sleep where you want there, but you have to obey the regulations about hunting and fishing no matter what your situation. Also, it’s not a bad idea to be friendly and kind to the other people staying there. There are more people living rent-free in the forests than most would imagine. Whole communities, in fact.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Bill P

    There was a pretty good little movie about people who live in the forests of the Pacific Northwest by the ladies who made Jennifer Lawrence's breakthrough "Winter's Bone." "Leave No Trace" is about an adolescent girl whose war vet dad can't live in doors. The striking thing about "Leave No Trace" is how kind everybody is to the girl and her dad. "Oh, your dad can't live in a building ever since he got back from the war. Okay, I understand, I had a cousin kind of like that."

    Replies: @anon, @Buffalo Joe, @Bill P

  56. @Anon
    @anon


    Saturday I drove to a remote trailhead in the Cascades to go for a solitary hike.... I can’t think of a less likely way to catch or spread the virus than hiking alone in the wilderness.
     
    The problem is, the hike was only solitary because you broke the rules. Had the trail (which I assume is not 10 feet wide) not been closed, you would have been in a crowd. Government has to make broad, easy-to-communicate, easy-to-enforce-with-limited-staff rules that mostly improve our prospects. The perfect is the enemy of the good.

    The fact that you came out of this experience still the same entitled, smug guy that you entered it would seem to call for warning-free stiff initial fines collected by direct bank account garnishment. Hopefully your license plate number was entered into a police shit list.

    But I sympathize with the hell you must have been going through stuck in your house, with only the occasional grocery run for exercise, while others are leisurely dying or working in hospitals.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @JMcG, @Bill, @Achmed E. Newman, @Drahthaar, @Mr. Anon

    The North Cascades National Park is one of the most uncrowded in the lower 48 states.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Steve Sailer


    The North Cascades National Park is one of the most uncrowded in the lower 48 states.
     
    While at the same time accounting for fifty percent of all National Perk photos and blog posts on the internet. The geeky, techie, gadget loving, internet savvy locals, I guess?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  57. @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Nobody goes to Chicago to swim in Lake Michigan.

    But having 30 miles of lakefront makes living in Chicago vastly more enjoyable. Plus, Chicago has huge parks for those who don't live near the lakefront.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @JimDandy, @Reg Cæsar, @ken

    But having 30 miles of lakefront makes living in Chicago vastly more enjoyable.

    I always thought it ironic that capitalist Chicago has all this lakefront preserved for the public “in perpetuity”, while radical, communitarian Madison, with more lakes, hence more lakefront, has so little.

    The Twin Cities have the best of both worlds, plenty of lakes, and plenty of both public and private space.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Reg Cæsar

    Chicago benefited from far-sighted capitalists who rightly assumed that setting aside a lot of public amenities would pay off in the long run. In contrast, Los Angeles, especially the San Fernando Valley, was built on the cheap. The land turned out to be worth a fortune anyway, but it's reasonable to now regret the lack of foresight that didn't set aside more parkland, especially along the Los Angeles River floodplain. Instead of digging a concrete ditch, we could have built parks and golf courses on the floodplain like they did in Scottsdale, AZ.

    Replies: @Mike Zwick, @AnotherDad, @Ancient Briton

  58. @Bill P
    @anon

    Just leave a note on your car saying you're homeless and they'll leave you alone. They can't legally stop you from staying on federal land if you aren't causing a safety issue.

    I keep all the necessities for sleeping in the forest (Mt. Baker/Snoqualmie) in my trunk just in case I need to bail for whatever reason. You have every right to sleep where you want there, but you have to obey the regulations about hunting and fishing no matter what your situation. Also, it's not a bad idea to be friendly and kind to the other people staying there. There are more people living rent-free in the forests than most would imagine. Whole communities, in fact.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    There was a pretty good little movie about people who live in the forests of the Pacific Northwest by the ladies who made Jennifer Lawrence’s breakthrough “Winter’s Bone.” “Leave No Trace” is about an adolescent girl whose war vet dad can’t live in doors. The striking thing about “Leave No Trace” is how kind everybody is to the girl and her dad. “Oh, your dad can’t live in a building ever since he got back from the war. Okay, I understand, I had a cousin kind of like that.”

    • Replies: @anon
    @Steve Sailer


    There was a pretty good little movie
     
    If your whole frame of existence/life, is filtered through a 'movie' you once saw?
    Let the Holocough rip.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve, my father, his two brothers and three of my mother's brothers all served in WWII. They always said they couldn't wait to get home to a real bed, not a cot, a hammock or a fox hole. Strange condition.

    , @Bill P
    @Steve Sailer

    Thanks for the tip. I didn't know about that movie.

    It's true that any real, decent natives of the Pac. NW will be kind to those who find refuge in the woods. It's kind of a cultural acknowledgment that some people need the solace of the forest, and I'm pretty sure it pre-dates the Vietnam War.

    One of the guys I work with lived in the forest in Oregon for years, even raising some kids there. He's older and a vet, but not quite old enough for Vietnam. Really wonderful guy. One of my role models because he's such an unpretentious Christian. I have to admit I'm missing him pretty badly right now.

  59. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @prime noticer
    people in New York City and Chicago worry about states 1000 miles away while the subways and buses in their cities run non-stop for months.

    i'll never not hate big democrat city people ever again after this episode, New Yorkers especially.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    people in New York City and Chicago worry about states 1000 miles away while the subways and buses in their cities run non-stop for months.

    The amount of particulate being kicked up in the New York subways with those cars running through those tunnels at 40 miles an hour means riders are in a perpetually shaken snow globe of coronavirus.

  60. Here is an informative graph. Of course the population is probably at least ten percent higher than the late nineties, when there were some very bad flu seasons. Also the current deaths aren’t winter deaths, but then again mid to end of March was the coldest it has been this winter here, so effectively these deaths were our winter deaths.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @LondonBob

    The data for the 2019-2020 is incomplete: the extended flu season isn't over yet, and deaths can take several months to show up in official statistics. So, the chart isn't really an apples to apples comparison.

  61. @NOTA
    @Bernard

    Ironically, the black and American Indian communities really have suffered the most from this virus—it has cut a grizzly swath through NYC blacks and Indian reservatios. Presumably this is due to COVID-19’s implicit racism or their lack of white privilege or somerthing....

    Replies: @LondonBob, @anon

    If the PBS documentary on the Spanish Flu I saw the other day was accurate, and they didn’t mention the multiple waves, American Indians were hard hit then too, white man’s diseases, but also yellow man’s too.

  62. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    The North Cascades National Park is one of the most uncrowded in the lower 48 states.

    Replies: @Anon

    The North Cascades National Park is one of the most uncrowded in the lower 48 states.

    While at the same time accounting for fifty percent of all National Perk photos and blog posts on the internet. The geeky, techie, gadget loving, internet savvy locals, I guess?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    In "The Deer Hunter," the Pennsylvania steelworkers jump in a car after the big wedding and drive overnight to North Cascades NP, because the alpine glaciers of Pennsylvania are world famous.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Achmed E. Newman

  63. @Anon
    @Steve Sailer


    The North Cascades National Park is one of the most uncrowded in the lower 48 states.
     
    While at the same time accounting for fifty percent of all National Perk photos and blog posts on the internet. The geeky, techie, gadget loving, internet savvy locals, I guess?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    In “The Deer Hunter,” the Pennsylvania steelworkers jump in a car after the big wedding and drive overnight to North Cascades NP, because the alpine glaciers of Pennsylvania are world famous.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @Steve Sailer

    I begged my Dad to take me to see that when I was young. It was, how you say, not what I expected. I sure couldn’t wait to get upstate to see the Poconos after watching it though.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer

    Yeah, that part didn't look like anywhere in Pennsylvania! Was that director just stupid?

  64. @Steve Sailer
    @Bill P

    There was a pretty good little movie about people who live in the forests of the Pacific Northwest by the ladies who made Jennifer Lawrence's breakthrough "Winter's Bone." "Leave No Trace" is about an adolescent girl whose war vet dad can't live in doors. The striking thing about "Leave No Trace" is how kind everybody is to the girl and her dad. "Oh, your dad can't live in a building ever since he got back from the war. Okay, I understand, I had a cousin kind of like that."

    Replies: @anon, @Buffalo Joe, @Bill P

    There was a pretty good little movie

    If your whole frame of existence/life, is filtered through a ‘movie’ you once saw?
    Let the Holocough rip.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    I don't actually know any mentally ill people who live in the forests of the Pacific Northwest, but I did see a pretty good movie about them.

  65. @anon
    @Steve Sailer


    There was a pretty good little movie
     
    If your whole frame of existence/life, is filtered through a 'movie' you once saw?
    Let the Holocough rip.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I don’t actually know any mentally ill people who live in the forests of the Pacific Northwest, but I did see a pretty good movie about them.

  66. Import a Third World population and you get Third World competence, compassion and outcome.

    This video is compelling. https://twitter.com/sciencecohen/status/1254456626062352385

  67. My apology. Correct link is here.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Bert

    The attitude is familiar. See:
    J. T. Bass; _Half Past Human_, 1970s. Amazon.com has a reasonable review.

    Bass was a medical student, and got his ideas from the urban medical practice he saw. Essentially triage made routine and large scale. The book is a good introduction to New York / Federal mindset today; as we get increasingly poor, triage becomes a necessity, and is resisted less if it is lied about to the general public.

    , @vhrm
    @Bert

    wow. I would have said that her friend is exaggerating, however i noticed that it actually dovetails with a part of nytimes piece that Ron Unz posted in a comment a few weeks back where a NYC ER doctor told her tale.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/infection-rate-in-silicon-valley-was-under-5-in-early-april/#comment-3847609

    one part that drew my eye then was this part about unexplained patient neglect in one of the hospitals she worked:

    I happened to have been assigned to work at one hospital for a chain of shifts, so I hadn’t been inside one of our other hospitals in over a week. As soon as I open the E.R. doors there, I shrink from the sights and smells. Patients are now triple-bunked into single-person spaces, curtains pushed aside. In one room, three men, who appear to be in their 80s or so, are side by side in their stretchers, each one pulling at his oxygen mask, confused, their frail limbs swinging in the air. Some have sat in their own feces for a day. Puddles of urine have pooled around the wheels of some patients’ stretchers. Nurses are out sick; the remaining ones are coping the best they can. I have gotten texts from colleagues about the chaos here, but I thought that those were just about one bad day, that they had already gone through the worst.

    Another doctor notices the bewilderment on my face and comes over. “There are people literally dying of hypoxia in the hallways,” he says, “and there’s empty space with oxygen dispensers on the wall and no one using them.” What is he talking about? Isn’t the hospital full? He suggests that I take a walk down the hall and make a right, less than 100 yards away.

    I swipe open the unit, which usually serves as a post­operative area, with my ID. I see a room about half the size of the E.R. It’s a Sunday, a slow day usually, but still, there’s only one patient, who’s being tended to by a nursing assistant. A nurse hovers nearby. I track the green oxygen dispensers on the walls, these fountains of life that my patients gravely need. I go upstairs to one of the regular floors. It’s calm and quiet. Unlike in the E.R., where I dodge patients, colleagues and stretchers to get around — forget six feet of separation; we’re not able to maintain six inches — here the hallways are free and unobstructed. It’s just a regular hospital floor, but the space feels glorious, luxurious.
     

    (from https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/magazine/coronavirus-er-doctor-diary-new-york-city.html )

    She just drops it there and moves on to other issues.
    There's no explanation why the patients in the ER were so neglected when the rest of the hospital is empty. "nurses called in sick" makes no sense.
    And even an understaffed ward won't leave a person in their filth for 24 hours. Something really doesn't smell right about that scene (no pun intended).

    I'm really starting to believe that the nurses were dodging work. We've seen it in nursing homes, so why not hospitals? That sounds similar the claims in the YouTube video.

  68. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    In "The Deer Hunter," the Pennsylvania steelworkers jump in a car after the big wedding and drive overnight to North Cascades NP, because the alpine glaciers of Pennsylvania are world famous.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Achmed E. Newman

    I begged my Dad to take me to see that when I was young. It was, how you say, not what I expected. I sure couldn’t wait to get upstate to see the Poconos after watching it though.

  69. @Anon
    @anon


    Saturday I drove to a remote trailhead in the Cascades to go for a solitary hike.... I can’t think of a less likely way to catch or spread the virus than hiking alone in the wilderness.
     
    The problem is, the hike was only solitary because you broke the rules. Had the trail (which I assume is not 10 feet wide) not been closed, you would have been in a crowd. Government has to make broad, easy-to-communicate, easy-to-enforce-with-limited-staff rules that mostly improve our prospects. The perfect is the enemy of the good.

    The fact that you came out of this experience still the same entitled, smug guy that you entered it would seem to call for warning-free stiff initial fines collected by direct bank account garnishment. Hopefully your license plate number was entered into a police shit list.

    But I sympathize with the hell you must have been going through stuck in your house, with only the occasional grocery run for exercise, while others are leisurely dying or working in hospitals.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @JMcG, @Bill, @Achmed E. Newman, @Drahthaar, @Mr. Anon

    The people who claim to hate fascism are universally the ones most attracted to it. Do you prefer to imagine yourself with the little toothbrush mustache or the larger Stalin model?

    • Agree: Hibernian
  70. Chicagoans of any means were abandoning that bankrupt city before the lockdown, so, of course, Lightfoot wants to keep them locked down.

    As for the projects, the people of Aurora wish you to Party On, you beautiful consumers of expensive city and state services.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @The Alarmist


    As for the projects, the people of Aurora wish you to Party On, you beautiful consumers of expensive city and state services.
     
    And the people of Schaumburg...?


    https://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/married-with-children.jpg
  71. @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    But having 30 miles of lakefront makes living in Chicago vastly more enjoyable.
     
    I always thought it ironic that capitalist Chicago has all this lakefront preserved for the public "in perpetuity", while radical, communitarian Madison, with more lakes, hence more lakefront, has so little.

    The Twin Cities have the best of both worlds, plenty of lakes, and plenty of both public and private space.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Chicago benefited from far-sighted capitalists who rightly assumed that setting aside a lot of public amenities would pay off in the long run. In contrast, Los Angeles, especially the San Fernando Valley, was built on the cheap. The land turned out to be worth a fortune anyway, but it’s reasonable to now regret the lack of foresight that didn’t set aside more parkland, especially along the Los Angeles River floodplain. Instead of digging a concrete ditch, we could have built parks and golf courses on the floodplain like they did in Scottsdale, AZ.

    • Replies: @Mike Zwick
    @Steve Sailer

    The Chicago Area also has thousands of acres of forest preserves. Cook County's Forest Preserve District has over 70000 acres.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Steve Sailer



    but it’s reasonable to now regret the lack of foresight that didn’t set aside more parkland, especially along the Los Angeles River floodplain. Instead of digging a concrete ditch, we could have built parks and golf courses on the floodplain like they did in Scottsdale, AZ.
     
    This occurred to me even when i was a kid and saw this concrete "river" on Mannix (or the like).

    But if they'd had such foresight and built such a river park ... it would now be a giant homeless encampment.
    , @Ancient Briton
    @Steve Sailer

    They did a pretty nice job with the Riverwalk in San Antonio, TX.

  72. Ah, someone finally connected the dots and made the inevitable media argument https://www.vox.com/first-person/2020/4/25/21234774/coronavirus-covid-19-protest-anti-lockdown.

    The author, Maia Niguel Hoskin, is pretty attractive. Likely a white mother and black father. It is always those types who make the most ridiculous stances.

  73. @The Alarmist
    Chicagoans of any means were abandoning that bankrupt city before the lockdown, so, of course, Lightfoot wants to keep them locked down.

    As for the projects, the people of Aurora wish you to Party On, you beautiful consumers of expensive city and state services.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9-v12HyWEA

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    As for the projects, the people of Aurora wish you to Party On, you beautiful consumers of expensive city and state services.

    And the people of Schaumburg…?

    • Thanks: The Alarmist
  74. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    In "The Deer Hunter," the Pennsylvania steelworkers jump in a car after the big wedding and drive overnight to North Cascades NP, because the alpine glaciers of Pennsylvania are world famous.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Achmed E. Newman

    Yeah, that part didn’t look like anywhere in Pennsylvania! Was that director just stupid?

  75. @Polynikes
    @Dave Pinsen

    Last stats I saw for NYC showed violent crimes up during the lockdown. It wouldn’t surprise me if this didn’t affect murder rates in Chicago. I don’t think drug dealing gangs are affected by recessions.

    Replies: @Ed

    There are emerging reports that the subways have become even more crime ridden. There are more fights, assaults, robberies etc.

    My guess is the subways are becoming more enriched with diversity as mostly whites in prime manhattan/Brooklyn stay home.

    • Replies: @peterike
    @Ed


    There are emerging reports that the subways have become even more crime ridden. There are more fights, assaults, robberies etc.
     
    The subways have also turned into rolling homeless shelters. It's all pretty disgusting.

    https://nypost.com/2020/04/25/passed-out-passengers-trash-fill-subway-cars-amid-coronavirus-crisis/

    But not to worry! The really important stuff is being handled.

    De Blasio appoints wife head of coronavirus racial inequality task force

    Despite Mrs. DeBlasio having burned through a billion dollars getting to actually negative results from her "mental health initiative." DeBlasio is that very modern thing: the self-righteous, morally pompous, world-class grifter. I guess the Clinton's are the apex predators in this field, but DeBlasio is really taking a run at it.
  76. @Achmed E. Newman
    This Lightfoot character is just jealous due to Florida having over 20X the length of beaches, nice wide ones with white sand (especially on the SW coast), and water that won't shrink your testicles and exacerbate your Kung Flu. Nobody goes to Chicago to swim in Lake Michigan. We come to see the Penguin and get the band back together.

    I hope Mayor Lightfoot is no kin to this guy:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYuF99VTEdg

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Mike Zwick

    I have swam in Lake Michigan a lot. I always enjoyed it. Boating on the lake is another plus.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Mike Zwick

    I just prefer warmer water, which I also don't mind splashing on me when I'm sailing either. (Had to capsize the small sail boat in San Fran. Bay for a "check-ride". "Oh, I'm gonna wait at the dock and watch you right it from there", said my instructor.) Yeah, in blue jeans and a flannel shirt too!

    But, go ahead, knock yourself out, Mike!

    , @AP
    @Mike Zwick

    But the Michigan shore has warmer water than in Chicago.

  77. @Steve Sailer
    @Reg Cæsar

    Chicago benefited from far-sighted capitalists who rightly assumed that setting aside a lot of public amenities would pay off in the long run. In contrast, Los Angeles, especially the San Fernando Valley, was built on the cheap. The land turned out to be worth a fortune anyway, but it's reasonable to now regret the lack of foresight that didn't set aside more parkland, especially along the Los Angeles River floodplain. Instead of digging a concrete ditch, we could have built parks and golf courses on the floodplain like they did in Scottsdale, AZ.

    Replies: @Mike Zwick, @AnotherDad, @Ancient Briton

    The Chicago Area also has thousands of acres of forest preserves. Cook County’s Forest Preserve District has over 70000 acres.

  78. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer

    Sure, yeah, the view's better with a shoreline, but I just saw one guy go jump in that lake when I was there in early May. Not for me. My point was that people drive 1,000 miles to go to Florida beaches, and 10's of millions have moved down there to live near them. Actually, now would be a good time for Midwesterners to take a nice road trip - I say, go to Clearwater/St. Pete. Yankees may no longer be welcome, for a while.

    Seattle has some big parks too. Discovery Park, on the NW portion of Magnolia Hill, is huge. There aren't attractions there, really, just a big place to have a great view from what must be at least a coupla' hundred feet above the Sound, of the Olympic Mountains. There's room to run and bike around, and in August, you can pick huge blackberries till your shirt is riddled with thorn holes.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Discovery Park was originally an Army Coast Artillery fort guarding Puget Sound, Fort Lawton.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Hibernian

    Yep, some of the officers' houses, with their spectacular views are still there, last I was.

  79. @Inquiring Mind
    @Known Fact

    This illicit haircut didnt' help with what?

    Her credibility or with her looks?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Hibernian

    Truth, is that you?

  80. @Inquiring Mind
    @Known Fact

    This illicit haircut didnt' help with what?

    Her credibility or with her looks?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Hibernian

    Truth, is that you?

  81. @Inquiring Mind
    Who is Groot? And why do the police in Chicago liken the Mayor to a comic book space alien with the physiology of a tree?

    And what does this say about the "hold on power" (is that a word we use in a democracy) of a mayor when rank-and-file police have this nickname for her?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Almost Missouri

    “And why do the police in Chicago liken the Mayor to a comic book space alien with the physiology of a tree?”

    I wonder that too.

    “Get a life.”

    Would love to. It happens to be forbidden at the moment.

    • LOL: Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @Almost Missouri

    I kind of wondered why I was advised to get a life.

    Is it because I am obsessing about comic-book characters?

    What I am obsessing about is the apparent disrespect that self-described members of the CPD commenting on blogs exhibit. I know that the CPD has a union and unions and union members tend to develop an adversarial relationship with management. I know that anyone who has an overbearing boss has some nickname for that person when unloading about one's personal woes with one's spouse or other confidant.

    Get a life? People leave Chicago seeking a better life in the City of Ulyanov, so what drives people to leave Chicago and bring some of those troubles here is of immediate concern to me. Like the fine people living in Section 8 housing within walking distance of the neighborhood where I live.

    I obsess about a take-charge Chief of Police taking an "early retirement" upon the election of a new Mayor with, how shall I describe her, as having the same "lifestyle" as Mayor Lightfoot.

    I asked the Groot question somewhat rhetorically. There are many black women that I consider attractive, and let us say Mayor Lightfoot is not one of them. She is rather odd looking for a black person or a person of any race. If you think about it, she does sort of look like pictures, is it from Marvel comics, of the fictional character who looks like a tree.

    Beauty is skin deep, but sometimes the unattractiveness of a person is trying to tell you something?

    Labor always has something to say about Management, but calling the Mayor of Chicago by the name Groot? What is that saying about governance and policing in Chicago, and what is that saying about an impending tsunami of migration from Chicago to Ulyanov that I guess I am obsessing about?

  82. @Anon
    @anon


    Saturday I drove to a remote trailhead in the Cascades to go for a solitary hike.... I can’t think of a less likely way to catch or spread the virus than hiking alone in the wilderness.
     
    The problem is, the hike was only solitary because you broke the rules. Had the trail (which I assume is not 10 feet wide) not been closed, you would have been in a crowd. Government has to make broad, easy-to-communicate, easy-to-enforce-with-limited-staff rules that mostly improve our prospects. The perfect is the enemy of the good.

    The fact that you came out of this experience still the same entitled, smug guy that you entered it would seem to call for warning-free stiff initial fines collected by direct bank account garnishment. Hopefully your license plate number was entered into a police shit list.

    But I sympathize with the hell you must have been going through stuck in your house, with only the occasional grocery run for exercise, while others are leisurely dying or working in hospitals.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @JMcG, @Bill, @Achmed E. Newman, @Drahthaar, @Mr. Anon

    Have you even hiked, bro?

  83. @Achmed E. Newman
    @James Speaks

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman

    Replies: @Johnny Rico

    Okay. So that is a counterfeit LOL, right? Or homemade.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Johnny Rico

    It was a cheap-ass cut-and paste job, Johnny,

    with help from @Adam Smith, @BenKenobi, @res, @danand, and @Kratoklastes.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  84. Some guests are wearing masks

    Most of the mask wearing looks intentionally ironic, to me. Half the people with masks have them partly off, and I think I saw one mask-wearing guy in the video sharing a blunt with someone. You can see this in the extended video itself (no longer available where I bookmarked it yesterday, but I’m sure it’s around).

  85. @Hibernian
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Discovery Park was originally an Army Coast Artillery fort guarding Puget Sound, Fort Lawton.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Yep, some of the officers’ houses, with their spectacular views are still there, last I was.

  86. My guess is the high end residents living alongside the parks don’t want the party attendees anywhere near them.

  87. @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Nobody goes to Chicago to swim in Lake Michigan.

    But having 30 miles of lakefront makes living in Chicago vastly more enjoyable. Plus, Chicago has huge parks for those who don't live near the lakefront.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @JimDandy, @Reg Cæsar, @ken

    When I drove through the city on a Sunday a few weeks back the side streets were teeming with foot and biking traffic. All the mayor accomplished was moving people a few blocks westward.

  88. @Ed
    @Polynikes

    There are emerging reports that the subways have become even more crime ridden. There are more fights, assaults, robberies etc.

    My guess is the subways are becoming more enriched with diversity as mostly whites in prime manhattan/Brooklyn stay home.

    Replies: @peterike

    There are emerging reports that the subways have become even more crime ridden. There are more fights, assaults, robberies etc.

    The subways have also turned into rolling homeless shelters. It’s all pretty disgusting.

    https://nypost.com/2020/04/25/passed-out-passengers-trash-fill-subway-cars-amid-coronavirus-crisis/

    But not to worry! The really important stuff is being handled.

    De Blasio appoints wife head of coronavirus racial inequality task force

    Despite Mrs. DeBlasio having burned through a billion dollars getting to actually negative results from her “mental health initiative.” DeBlasio is that very modern thing: the self-righteous, morally pompous, world-class grifter. I guess the Clinton’s are the apex predators in this field, but DeBlasio is really taking a run at it.

  89. @anon
    Saturday I drove to a remote trailhead in the Cascades to go for a solitary hike. The parking area was closed due to Corona virus. I parked my car on the side of the forest service road and hiked in anyway. My car was the only vehicle there.
    When I came out I found the forest service left a note on my car reminding me that the forests are closed and asking me to stay home next time. (No ticket, just a note).
    I can't think of a less likely way to catch or spread the virus than hiking alone in the wilderness.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton, @Buffalo Joe, @Ancient Briton, @Federalist, @Anon, @Bill P, @Glt, @Bill Jones

    At least in Oregon, forest service lands are closed but most BLM land is open. Now I just need to find a map of BLM trailheads…

    https://www.blm.gov/oregon-washington/covid-access-restrictions

  90. Anonymous[680] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    When times are good, white people tend to fight amongst themselves. When times are tough, white people tend to pull together.

    When times are good, black people tend to pull together. When times are tough, blacks tend to fight amongst themselves.

    Conclusion: Too many black people are too ignorant to understand times are tough, so after perceived circumstances go through the collective black logic blender... they throw coronavirus parties.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @SunBakedSuburb

  91. Anonymous[680] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bert
    My apology. Correct link is here.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS670oLkPm0

    Replies: @Anonymous, @vhrm

    The attitude is familiar. See:
    J. T. Bass; _Half Past Human_, 1970s. Amazon.com has a reasonable review.

    Bass was a medical student, and got his ideas from the urban medical practice he saw. Essentially triage made routine and large scale. The book is a good introduction to New York / Federal mindset today; as we get increasingly poor, triage becomes a necessity, and is resisted less if it is lied about to the general public.

  92. Ain’t nothin’ but a gangsta party

  93. @Steve Sailer
    @Reg Cæsar

    Chicago benefited from far-sighted capitalists who rightly assumed that setting aside a lot of public amenities would pay off in the long run. In contrast, Los Angeles, especially the San Fernando Valley, was built on the cheap. The land turned out to be worth a fortune anyway, but it's reasonable to now regret the lack of foresight that didn't set aside more parkland, especially along the Los Angeles River floodplain. Instead of digging a concrete ditch, we could have built parks and golf courses on the floodplain like they did in Scottsdale, AZ.

    Replies: @Mike Zwick, @AnotherDad, @Ancient Briton

    but it’s reasonable to now regret the lack of foresight that didn’t set aside more parkland, especially along the Los Angeles River floodplain. Instead of digging a concrete ditch, we could have built parks and golf courses on the floodplain like they did in Scottsdale, AZ.

    This occurred to me even when i was a kid and saw this concrete “river” on Mannix (or the like).

    But if they’d had such foresight and built such a river park … it would now be a giant homeless encampment.

  94. @Anonymous
    When times are good, white people tend to fight amongst themselves. When times are tough, white people tend to pull together.

    When times are good, black people tend to pull together. When times are tough, blacks tend to fight amongst themselves.

    Conclusion: Too many black people are too ignorant to understand times are tough, so after perceived circumstances go through the collective black logic blender... they throw coronavirus parties.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @SunBakedSuburb

    “When times are tough, white people tend to pull together.”

    And excrete corporate propaganda with inane “we’re all in this together” ad copy.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @SunBakedSuburb


    “When times are tough, white people tend to pull together.”

    And excrete corporate propaganda with inane “we’re all in this together” ad copy.
     
    It’s going to be okay, Sunbaked. I’m here for you. We’re all here for you.

    Here, now! Let’s get that mask back on, while I make you some pancakes.
    , @Ozymandias
    @SunBakedSuburb


    And excrete corporate propaganda with inane “we’re all in this together” ad copy.
     
    It's because they care about us. And because they care about us and our interracial families so deeply, they're going out of their way to allow us the opportunity to purchase their products.
  95. @Steve Sailer
    @Reg Cæsar

    Chicago benefited from far-sighted capitalists who rightly assumed that setting aside a lot of public amenities would pay off in the long run. In contrast, Los Angeles, especially the San Fernando Valley, was built on the cheap. The land turned out to be worth a fortune anyway, but it's reasonable to now regret the lack of foresight that didn't set aside more parkland, especially along the Los Angeles River floodplain. Instead of digging a concrete ditch, we could have built parks and golf courses on the floodplain like they did in Scottsdale, AZ.

    Replies: @Mike Zwick, @AnotherDad, @Ancient Briton

    They did a pretty nice job with the Riverwalk in San Antonio, TX.

  96. @Steve Sailer
    @Bill P

    There was a pretty good little movie about people who live in the forests of the Pacific Northwest by the ladies who made Jennifer Lawrence's breakthrough "Winter's Bone." "Leave No Trace" is about an adolescent girl whose war vet dad can't live in doors. The striking thing about "Leave No Trace" is how kind everybody is to the girl and her dad. "Oh, your dad can't live in a building ever since he got back from the war. Okay, I understand, I had a cousin kind of like that."

    Replies: @anon, @Buffalo Joe, @Bill P

    Steve, my father, his two brothers and three of my mother’s brothers all served in WWII. They always said they couldn’t wait to get home to a real bed, not a cot, a hammock or a fox hole. Strange condition.

  97. @Anon
    @anon


    Saturday I drove to a remote trailhead in the Cascades to go for a solitary hike.... I can’t think of a less likely way to catch or spread the virus than hiking alone in the wilderness.
     
    The problem is, the hike was only solitary because you broke the rules. Had the trail (which I assume is not 10 feet wide) not been closed, you would have been in a crowd. Government has to make broad, easy-to-communicate, easy-to-enforce-with-limited-staff rules that mostly improve our prospects. The perfect is the enemy of the good.

    The fact that you came out of this experience still the same entitled, smug guy that you entered it would seem to call for warning-free stiff initial fines collected by direct bank account garnishment. Hopefully your license plate number was entered into a police shit list.

    But I sympathize with the hell you must have been going through stuck in your house, with only the occasional grocery run for exercise, while others are leisurely dying or working in hospitals.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @JMcG, @Bill, @Achmed E. Newman, @Drahthaar, @Mr. Anon

    • Commie: Achmed E. Newman

  98. @Mike Zwick
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I have swam in Lake Michigan a lot. I always enjoyed it. Boating on the lake is another plus.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @AP

    I just prefer warmer water, which I also don’t mind splashing on me when I’m sailing either. (Had to capsize the small sail boat in San Fran. Bay for a “check-ride”. “Oh, I’m gonna wait at the dock and watch you right it from there”, said my instructor.) Yeah, in blue jeans and a flannel shirt too!

    But, go ahead, knock yourself out, Mike!

  99. @Johnny Rico
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Okay. So that is a counterfeit LOL, right? Or homemade.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    It was a cheap-ass cut-and paste job, Johnny,

    with help from @Adam Smith, @BenKenobi, @res, @danand, and @Kratoklastes.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Dang, 5 at-signs were in there, which got stripped out and messed up the comment. I was giving thanks to Adam Smith, Ben Kenobi, Res, Danand, and Kratoklastes for help.

  100. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @SunBakedSuburb
    @Anonymous

    "When times are tough, white people tend to pull together."

    And excrete corporate propaganda with inane "we're all in this together" ad copy.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Ozymandias

    “When times are tough, white people tend to pull together.”

    And excrete corporate propaganda with inane “we’re all in this together” ad copy.

    It’s going to be okay, Sunbaked. I’m here for you. We’re all here for you.

    Here, now! Let’s get that mask back on, while I make you some pancakes.

  101. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Johnny Rico

    It was a cheap-ass cut-and paste job, Johnny,

    with help from @Adam Smith, @BenKenobi, @res, @danand, and @Kratoklastes.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Dang, 5 at-signs were in there, which got stripped out and messed up the comment. I was giving thanks to Adam Smith, Ben Kenobi, Res, Danand, and Kratoklastes for help.

  102. @LondonBob
    https://twitter.com/northamrd/status/1254659155966730240?s=20

    Here is an informative graph. Of course the population is probably at least ten percent higher than the late nineties, when there were some very bad flu seasons. Also the current deaths aren't winter deaths, but then again mid to end of March was the coldest it has been this winter here, so effectively these deaths were our winter deaths.

    Replies: @Not Raul

    The data for the 2019-2020 is incomplete: the extended flu season isn’t over yet, and deaths can take several months to show up in official statistics. So, the chart isn’t really an apples to apples comparison.

  103. @Anon
    @anon


    Saturday I drove to a remote trailhead in the Cascades to go for a solitary hike.... I can’t think of a less likely way to catch or spread the virus than hiking alone in the wilderness.
     
    The problem is, the hike was only solitary because you broke the rules. Had the trail (which I assume is not 10 feet wide) not been closed, you would have been in a crowd. Government has to make broad, easy-to-communicate, easy-to-enforce-with-limited-staff rules that mostly improve our prospects. The perfect is the enemy of the good.

    The fact that you came out of this experience still the same entitled, smug guy that you entered it would seem to call for warning-free stiff initial fines collected by direct bank account garnishment. Hopefully your license plate number was entered into a police shit list.

    But I sympathize with the hell you must have been going through stuck in your house, with only the occasional grocery run for exercise, while others are leisurely dying or working in hospitals.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @JMcG, @Bill, @Achmed E. Newman, @Drahthaar, @Mr. Anon

    Very creepy, this health-based fascism to which many, stoked by fear, subscribe.

    Metro America needs badly to get socially comfortable again in open-air parks and public space.

  104. @anon
    Saturday I drove to a remote trailhead in the Cascades to go for a solitary hike. The parking area was closed due to Corona virus. I parked my car on the side of the forest service road and hiked in anyway. My car was the only vehicle there.
    When I came out I found the forest service left a note on my car reminding me that the forests are closed and asking me to stay home next time. (No ticket, just a note).
    I can't think of a less likely way to catch or spread the virus than hiking alone in the wilderness.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton, @Buffalo Joe, @Ancient Briton, @Federalist, @Anon, @Bill P, @Glt, @Bill Jones

    My son got one similar last week.

  105. @Ancient Briton
    @anon

    If you are shot dead in Chicago and test positive for WuFlu, how is that counted?

    Replies: @Cortes, @Achmed E. Newman, @Bill Jones

    Natural causes.

  106. Secret cabal of white guys about the save the planet:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-secret-group-of-scientists-and-billionaires-pushing-trump-on-a-covid-19-plan-11587998993?mod=hp_lead_pos5

    I suspect their identities must be suppressed in no small part to avoid hurting feelings about what they have in common

  107. @MBlanc46
    @Lot

    Nah, in Chicago the mayor has to be black.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @flyingtiger

    No, They have to be short like the Daley’s, Rahm, and Gordie,

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @flyingtiger

    I saw Daley fils standing in the atrium of the Thompson Center once. He was all alone, perhaps waiting for an interviewer or some such. I was amazed at what a shrimp he was. Mme and I saw Emanuel a few times at Joffrey Ballet performances. He too was a small guy, but he didn’t seem to as diminutive as Daley fils. I don’t know about Groot. I’ll bet she’s on the height-challenged side to. Doubtless there are plenty of short blacks who’ll be ready to take her place.

  108. @Steve Sailer
    @Bill P

    There was a pretty good little movie about people who live in the forests of the Pacific Northwest by the ladies who made Jennifer Lawrence's breakthrough "Winter's Bone." "Leave No Trace" is about an adolescent girl whose war vet dad can't live in doors. The striking thing about "Leave No Trace" is how kind everybody is to the girl and her dad. "Oh, your dad can't live in a building ever since he got back from the war. Okay, I understand, I had a cousin kind of like that."

    Replies: @anon, @Buffalo Joe, @Bill P

    Thanks for the tip. I didn’t know about that movie.

    It’s true that any real, decent natives of the Pac. NW will be kind to those who find refuge in the woods. It’s kind of a cultural acknowledgment that some people need the solace of the forest, and I’m pretty sure it pre-dates the Vietnam War.

    One of the guys I work with lived in the forest in Oregon for years, even raising some kids there. He’s older and a vet, but not quite old enough for Vietnam. Really wonderful guy. One of my role models because he’s such an unpretentious Christian. I have to admit I’m missing him pretty badly right now.

  109. Report from Chicago
    Two weeks ago, a family had a house party like that. It was by the usual suspects. The mother said she didn’t care about no quarantine, she wanted a Birthday party foe he “BeBe.” No social distancing. There were about 50 to 100 people. They were loud and close together. A few days later the BeBe died. Most of the people at the party are dead. You do not hear about this because they file these deaths as drive by shootings. The morale of the story is listen to Governor JB the Hutt and Mayor Groot. The other morale is that if we get rid of stupid people like this, Gentrifying Chicago will be much easier.

  110. @Mr. Anon
    @Federalist


    True. But that’s not really what it’s about.
     

    James Cole: So now it's not about the virus at all. It's about following orders, doing what you're told.

    - Twelve Monkeys
     

    Replies: @Federalist

    Woah. Apparently, that’s a real quote from this movie. (I never saw it).

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Federalist

    It's a good movie. Maybe better than Brazil. Terry Gilliam is kind of a jerk, but he makes interesting movies.

  111. @Mike Zwick
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I have swam in Lake Michigan a lot. I always enjoyed it. Boating on the lake is another plus.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @AP

    But the Michigan shore has warmer water than in Chicago.

  112. @Federalist
    @Mr. Anon

    Woah. Apparently, that's a real quote from this movie. (I never saw it).

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    It’s a good movie. Maybe better than Brazil. Terry Gilliam is kind of a jerk, but he makes interesting movies.

  113. @Anon
    @anon


    Saturday I drove to a remote trailhead in the Cascades to go for a solitary hike.... I can’t think of a less likely way to catch or spread the virus than hiking alone in the wilderness.
     
    The problem is, the hike was only solitary because you broke the rules. Had the trail (which I assume is not 10 feet wide) not been closed, you would have been in a crowd. Government has to make broad, easy-to-communicate, easy-to-enforce-with-limited-staff rules that mostly improve our prospects. The perfect is the enemy of the good.

    The fact that you came out of this experience still the same entitled, smug guy that you entered it would seem to call for warning-free stiff initial fines collected by direct bank account garnishment. Hopefully your license plate number was entered into a police shit list.

    But I sympathize with the hell you must have been going through stuck in your house, with only the occasional grocery run for exercise, while others are leisurely dying or working in hospitals.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @JMcG, @Bill, @Achmed E. Newman, @Drahthaar, @Mr. Anon

    But I sympathize with the hell you must have been going through stuck in your house, with only the occasional grocery run for exercise, while others are leisurely dying or working in hospitals.

    Hell is other people. People like you, for instance.

    Trailheads in the Cascades are seldom if every crowded, even on a busy day.

    The rest of us need to find a way to not share a country with pusillanimous ratfink busybodies like you.

  114. @Reg Cæsar
    "Safe at Home" has given a new meaning to one Chicago innovation. House music.



    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/553a6fcce4b0033a4f57cfc5/1573667574524-G69M3T2CRMQX4YXQGMRS/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kDOH-C_eWxlSL-945umGQ_x7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z5QPOohDIaIeljMHgDF5CVlOqpeNLcJ80NK65_fV7S1UZqeINumZPy4c97vQv06wrtFtpDdPpvoZfDZr5leI9cAQl-ZUrVfrc-q7qzhmWj5iw/greetings+from+chicago.jpg?format=750w


    Bringing House Home


    City cancels Gospel, House and Blues festivals


    https://geo-static.traxsource.com/files/images/ce90589a1528bc1105ecfcb428e751b5.jpg

    Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin

    Without a couple of bullet holes everyone is going to know that “Greetings from Chicago” shirt is fake.

  115. @Almost Missouri
    @Inquiring Mind


    "And why do the police in Chicago liken the Mayor to a comic book space alien with the physiology of a tree?"
     
    I wonder that too.

    "Get a life."
     
    Would love to. It happens to be forbidden at the moment.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind

    I kind of wondered why I was advised to get a life.

    Is it because I am obsessing about comic-book characters?

    What I am obsessing about is the apparent disrespect that self-described members of the CPD commenting on blogs exhibit. I know that the CPD has a union and unions and union members tend to develop an adversarial relationship with management. I know that anyone who has an overbearing boss has some nickname for that person when unloading about one’s personal woes with one’s spouse or other confidant.

    Get a life? People leave Chicago seeking a better life in the City of Ulyanov, so what drives people to leave Chicago and bring some of those troubles here is of immediate concern to me. Like the fine people living in Section 8 housing within walking distance of the neighborhood where I live.

    I obsess about a take-charge Chief of Police taking an “early retirement” upon the election of a new Mayor with, how shall I describe her, as having the same “lifestyle” as Mayor Lightfoot.

    I asked the Groot question somewhat rhetorically. There are many black women that I consider attractive, and let us say Mayor Lightfoot is not one of them. She is rather odd looking for a black person or a person of any race. If you think about it, she does sort of look like pictures, is it from Marvel comics, of the fictional character who looks like a tree.

    Beauty is skin deep, but sometimes the unattractiveness of a person is trying to tell you something?

    Labor always has something to say about Management, but calling the Mayor of Chicago by the name Groot? What is that saying about governance and policing in Chicago, and what is that saying about an impending tsunami of migration from Chicago to Ulyanov that I guess I am obsessing about?

  116. @Bert
    My apology. Correct link is here.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS670oLkPm0

    Replies: @Anonymous, @vhrm

    wow. I would have said that her friend is exaggerating, however i noticed that it actually dovetails with a part of nytimes piece that Ron Unz posted in a comment a few weeks back where a NYC ER doctor told her tale.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/infection-rate-in-silicon-valley-was-under-5-in-early-april/#comment-3847609

    one part that drew my eye then was this part about unexplained patient neglect in one of the hospitals she worked:

    I happened to have been assigned to work at one hospital for a chain of shifts, so I hadn’t been inside one of our other hospitals in over a week. As soon as I open the E.R. doors there, I shrink from the sights and smells. Patients are now triple-bunked into single-person spaces, curtains pushed aside. In one room, three men, who appear to be in their 80s or so, are side by side in their stretchers, each one pulling at his oxygen mask, confused, their frail limbs swinging in the air. Some have sat in their own feces for a day. Puddles of urine have pooled around the wheels of some patients’ stretchers. Nurses are out sick; the remaining ones are coping the best they can. I have gotten texts from colleagues about the chaos here, but I thought that those were just about one bad day, that they had already gone through the worst.

    Another doctor notices the bewilderment on my face and comes over. “There are people literally dying of hypoxia in the hallways,” he says, “and there’s empty space with oxygen dispensers on the wall and no one using them.” What is he talking about? Isn’t the hospital full? He suggests that I take a walk down the hall and make a right, less than 100 yards away.

    I swipe open the unit, which usually serves as a post­operative area, with my ID. I see a room about half the size of the E.R. It’s a Sunday, a slow day usually, but still, there’s only one patient, who’s being tended to by a nursing assistant. A nurse hovers nearby. I track the green oxygen dispensers on the walls, these fountains of life that my patients gravely need. I go upstairs to one of the regular floors. It’s calm and quiet. Unlike in the E.R., where I dodge patients, colleagues and stretchers to get around — forget six feet of separation; we’re not able to maintain six inches — here the hallways are free and unobstructed. It’s just a regular hospital floor, but the space feels glorious, luxurious.

    (from https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/magazine/coronavirus-er-doctor-diary-new-york-city.html )

    She just drops it there and moves on to other issues.
    There’s no explanation why the patients in the ER were so neglected when the rest of the hospital is empty. “nurses called in sick” makes no sense.
    And even an understaffed ward won’t leave a person in their filth for 24 hours. Something really doesn’t smell right about that scene (no pun intended).

    I’m really starting to believe that the nurses were dodging work. We’ve seen it in nursing homes, so why not hospitals? That sounds similar the claims in the YouTube video.

  117. Reminds of how the population in Great Britain are supposedly following “lockdown” (interpreted as “free vacation”).

    More than 300 people have liked this picture of a group brazenly flouting lockdown rules in Coatbridge

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8263201/Covidiots-pose-picture-drinking-party-coronavirus-lockdown-Coatbridge-Lanarkshire.html

  118. @NOTA
    @Bernard

    Ironically, the black and American Indian communities really have suffered the most from this virus—it has cut a grizzly swath through NYC blacks and Indian reservatios. Presumably this is due to COVID-19’s implicit racism or their lack of white privilege or somerthing....

    Replies: @LondonBob, @anon

    Grizzlies are racist.

  119. @SunBakedSuburb
    @Anonymous

    "When times are tough, white people tend to pull together."

    And excrete corporate propaganda with inane "we're all in this together" ad copy.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Ozymandias

    And excrete corporate propaganda with inane “we’re all in this together” ad copy.

    It’s because they care about us. And because they care about us and our interracial families so deeply, they’re going out of their way to allow us the opportunity to purchase their products.

  120. @JimDandy
    @MBlanc46

    Or a Jew. Or a Daley.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    It seems to me that blacks believe that the job should have belonged to them after Harold Washington. Perhaps it would have been if he’d lived longer. His death gave Daley fils a chance to grab it back, and he managed to hand it off to Emanuel. Now that the blacks have grabbed it back, it will take some doing to pry it away from them. Perhaps the Mexicans can eventually get ahold of it, if they keep coming in and the blacks keep leaving, but for some time to come, it’s going to be black.

    • Agree: JimDandy
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @MBlanc46

    Now that the blacks have grabbed it back, it will take some doing to pry it away from them.

    Blacks are a smaller share of Chicago's population now than they were in 1989, the last time they lost the mayor's chair. It shouldn't take any more doing now than then. What's curious about the current situation in Chicago and Cook County is that the non-black majority is as tolerant as it has been of Lightfoot, Preckwinkle, and Foxx. All three are antagonistic to law enforcement. It's perverse for any core city resident to cast a ballot for such a person.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

  121. @flyingtiger
    @MBlanc46

    No, They have to be short like the Daley's, Rahm, and Gordie,

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    I saw Daley fils standing in the atrium of the Thompson Center once. He was all alone, perhaps waiting for an interviewer or some such. I was amazed at what a shrimp he was. Mme and I saw Emanuel a few times at Joffrey Ballet performances. He too was a small guy, but he didn’t seem to as diminutive as Daley fils. I don’t know about Groot. I’ll bet she’s on the height-challenged side to. Doubtless there are plenty of short blacks who’ll be ready to take her place.

  122. My sister met John Daley (Younger brother). My sister is petite. She said John Daley is shorter than her.

  123. @MBlanc46
    @JimDandy

    It seems to me that blacks believe that the job should have belonged to them after Harold Washington. Perhaps it would have been if he’d lived longer. His death gave Daley fils a chance to grab it back, and he managed to hand it off to Emanuel. Now that the blacks have grabbed it back, it will take some doing to pry it away from them. Perhaps the Mexicans can eventually get ahold of it, if they keep coming in and the blacks keep leaving, but for some time to come, it’s going to be black.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Now that the blacks have grabbed it back, it will take some doing to pry it away from them.

    Blacks are a smaller share of Chicago’s population now than they were in 1989, the last time they lost the mayor’s chair. It shouldn’t take any more doing now than then. What’s curious about the current situation in Chicago and Cook County is that the non-black majority is as tolerant as it has been of Lightfoot, Preckwinkle, and Foxx. All three are antagonistic to law enforcement. It’s perverse for any core city resident to cast a ballot for such a person.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @Art Deco

    Yes, their share of the population is decreasing, but white Dems seem completely in thrall to them, and the Latinos, who manage to get their own aldermen, don’t seem much interested in running the show, save for Chuy Garcia, who’s now been bought with a congressional seat (unfortunately in the district that I live in).

  124. “Minorities hardest-hit”

  125. @Art Deco
    @MBlanc46

    Now that the blacks have grabbed it back, it will take some doing to pry it away from them.

    Blacks are a smaller share of Chicago's population now than they were in 1989, the last time they lost the mayor's chair. It shouldn't take any more doing now than then. What's curious about the current situation in Chicago and Cook County is that the non-black majority is as tolerant as it has been of Lightfoot, Preckwinkle, and Foxx. All three are antagonistic to law enforcement. It's perverse for any core city resident to cast a ballot for such a person.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    Yes, their share of the population is decreasing, but white Dems seem completely in thrall to them, and the Latinos, who manage to get their own aldermen, don’t seem much interested in running the show, save for Chuy Garcia, who’s now been bought with a congressional seat (unfortunately in the district that I live in).

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