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Blacks mobs are ransacking expensive stores in the Loop and on the Magnificent Mile.

The rationalization was some black criminal getting shot by the cops on the South Side.

Has anybody ever asked Joe Biden what his plan is for why this kind of thing won’t go on throughout his term?

What exactly are the Democrats thinking? Do they assume all this rioting and looting is just part of their plot to depose Trump, so as soon as he is gone, the rioters and looters will go home? Or do they figure that as long as they control the media, nobody will notice all the boarded up windows on Michigan Avenue, the most expensive shopping street between the coasts?

Are the Democrats just counting on cold weather to make this stuff stop?

 
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  1. Well … yeah. I guess this is the New Normal, but are they at least wearing masks?

    • Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @The Alarmist


    Black mobs are ransacking expensive stores
     
    Well at least they're learning from the New York mobs.
    , @Bard of Bumperstickers
    @The Alarmist

    Do the defunded police have any description of the perps we may use to defend ourselves? Bueller?

    , @JimDandy
    @The Alarmist

    Consequences have been removed. Kim Foxx, the same she-beast of a State's Attorney who tried to enable Jussie Smollett's malarkey, has essentially de-criminalized crime in Chicago. Chicago's top-columnists, John Kass, wrote about how Soros-backed prosecutors across the country are doing the same thing in America's big cities. He was immediately demoted.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnoRPYhp4R4

    Replies: @Anonymous, @MEH 0910

    , @anon
    @The Alarmist

    are they at least wearing masks?

    I can't tell for sure, but it looks like the looting is mostly peaceful.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    , @Buck Ransom
    @The Alarmist

    Looks like a whole lot of folks had to pull themselves away from table-building to participate in this event.

    Replies: @anon

  2. Kamala Harris died:

    • LOL: BB753, Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
    @anon

    Biden's plan for racial reconciliation involves loudspeakers proclaiming 'Can't we all just get along?' To which the looters will pause long enough to reply, 'We are all getting along with your stuff.'

    , @Bard of Bumperstickers
    @anon

    Cause of death: white wrestler knelt on his neck? https://www.takimag.com/article/george-floyd-the-big-lie/

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @anon


    Kamala Harris died:
     
    Does that mean it'll be Susan Rice on the ticket?

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Ron Mexico

    , @Giancarlo M. Kumquat
    @anon

    Kamala Harris has a quite impressive chest!

    , @Duke84
    @anon

    Almost all of the crime in Chicago is committed by the African population.If it was an all white city it would be virtually crime free.

  3. Is it really that bad? Isn’t it likely to pass?

    And I guess, even if true, fundamentally who cares?

  4. Where’d ya find it, Steve? Chicago Trib and Second City Cop aren’t talking (yet). Must be an extremely late-night/early morning ‘event’?

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Jim Christian

    I saw it on freerepublic 2 hours ago. The police should go on strike for a week. Another town will turn into Detroit.

    Replies: @Kronos

    , @lysias
    @Jim Christian

    Daily Mail is reporting it.

    , @kikz
    @Jim Christian

    Gatewaypundit, and Informationliberation both covered it..... some comments did mention that the local "ChiraqTrib" had a complete blackout of events last night...

    , @Jane Plain
    @Jim Christian

    It's all over Twitter. Lightfoot gave a press conference. 2nd City cop has been tweeting for hours.

    , @36 ulster
    @Jim Christian

    It was.

    , @Grace Jones
    @Jim Christian

    News/Talk WBBM 780 has been talking about it all day.

  5. CAN YOU DIG IT????

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Anonymous

    Can You Dig It? - The Warriors (1/8) Movie CLIP (1979) HD
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTUrWYv2vtU

    Replies: @jimmyriddle

  6. I wonder if the Democrats can put this lunacy back in the bottle once Biden wins. I guess the Soros money for this will dry up, but still, they have voting blocks that are pretty unruly and rioted when even Obama was in office. Baltimore’s experience was pretty much what you have seen here. It hasn’t participated in the current hysteria because there is nothing left to loot in the dangerous black neighborhoods… and as one city council candidate said … take that shit to Towson, we need what’s left of our businesses here..

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Stonewall Jackson


    I wonder if the Democrats can put this lunacy back in the bottle once Biden wins.
     
    Was it ever in the bottle? Even in relatively quiet times, Black areas tend towards a low level riot.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Stonewall Jackson


    ...they have voting blocks that are pretty unruly and rioted when even Obama was in office.
     
    Typo, or pun?



    https://www.quotemaster.org/images/bb/bbacfad5626db4079d31ef6cc765cc76.jpg

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    , @J.Ross
    @Stonewall Jackson

    If Biden "wins" we have every reason to expect that it will be massively worse. Right now Barr is actually doing great work. Imagine a criminal AG like Holder again.
    ----------
    There was a huge explosion in Baltimore, about which nothing is properly known at the moment. But we already know why there was an explosion in Baltimore. There was an explosion in Baltimore because
    1) Democrats and their pets cannot do basic maintenance and public safety, and something like a gas line was interfered with or allowed to deteriorate;
    2) Democrats and their pets want disturbances (such as the coordinated looting in Chicago or the continued violence in Portland) to confect a historical memory that the Trump years were bad. Perhaps some bright young revolutionary was putting together something he ought not to have been handling;
    3) Democrats and their pets hate America enough to physically destroy it as a cheap political statement, enough to drive a garbage truck into the path of a train carrying congressmen ("Time's up");
    4) Democrats and their pets hate America enough that their idea of national security was entrusting the computers of their congressional delegation to a Pakistani intelligence asset.
    So it was probably 2, possibly 1, unlikely but maybe the others, but all of these are actually the same thing. They all have one prevention mechanism.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Stonewall Jackson

    We need to Wall these Democrat cities off. Democrats--of any color--cause more trouble than Mexicans.

    To get it underway fast, suggest we just jack up northbound lanes of I-294 to vertical.

    Insta-Wall!

    Replies: @Richard B, @Rob McX

    , @jon
    @Stonewall Jackson


    once Biden wins
     
    Biden won't win, and these riots will be one of the primary reasons. Normal people aren't happy that large parts of their country is literally on fire.
    , @Negrolphin Pool
    @Stonewall Jackson

    The graffitti is on the wall at this point. Chicago's elites are insane to continue allowing this to happen. But this begs the question if there are more than a sprinkling of those left who could be described as Chicago elites at all. Or has what was once an identifiable business and cultural community with a real local identity been supplanted by the Boeing and Aon C-suiters to an extent that the once great city is just another fungible node in the global network?

    The basic calculus is clear enough. Once businesses deem local operations to be unprofitable, you end up with ever increasing amounts of vacant real estate. Zillow has the median Detroit home value at $36k. But that doesn't factor in the 35% of homes that have been razed and probably close to that portion again that currently stand vacant. Vacant homes and those that have been torn down are worthless by definition. Similar circumstances prevail in Detroit's commercial real estate sector outside of downtown.

    A commenter on ZeroHedge made the point that determining the exact threshold at which a city becomes economically non-viable for private business is not some abstract thought experiment; it is the job of actuaries. Once insurance companies decide that they won't write policies on homes or businesses, especially real estate- and transportation-related policies, it's municipal check mate because there will be few banks willing to lend and few businesses willing to risk the unbearable liabilities of operating in and sending their people through a war zone.

    Maybe Jussie Smollett and the rest of the Gold Coast chic radicals, if they have an ounce of basic economic sense, might want to consider that the lower bound on their $10 million penthouses is exactly the same as the hundreds of units that until recently sat vacant for decades in Detroit's iconic neoclassical Book Cadillac tower: zero.

    Replies: @Jack D

  7. Twitter has not censored it yet, so if you type “Chicago looting” into the Twitter search bar, lots of tweets with photos appear. If you type “Chicago looting” into the New York Times search bar, you are assured that no such event has happened since no entries exist for it.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Peter Johnson

    Click on this tweet and scroll down.

    https://twitter.com/selfdeclaredref/status/1292702806516723720?s=21

    , @Mark G.
    @Peter Johnson


    If you type “Chicago looting” into the New York Times search bar, you are assured that no such event has happened since no entries exist for it.
     
    If they had the internet back in the nineteen thirties, if you had typed in "Ukrainian famine" into the New York Times search bar you would have been assured that no such event had happened too.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Lurker

    , @Jack D
    @Peter Johnson

    https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/08/10/us/10reuters-usa-chicago-looting.html?searchResultPosition=5

    Replies: @Peter Johnson

  8. For a test I went to these websites and saw no mention of Chicago rioting. CNN, FOX, NY Times. It’s not important to them. Did the Washingtoon Post cover last night’s shoot ’em up in DC? I could not find it but they covered fresh rioting in Portland

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Clyde

    The only thing about Chicago on Drudge at the moment is something about using social media to track quaranine violators. Is that what they're called nowadays?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Anon
    @Clyde


    ... fresh rioting in Portland
     
    ‘You can’t control people’s anger’: Portland protesters set fire to police union headquarters as tensions rise again

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/09/portland-police-union-fire/

    The arson thing seems to be well established now as a pièce de résistance in any structure-involved protest. Look for arson to be decriminalized as disproportionately affecting black allies.
    , @Kronos
    @Clyde


    I could not find it but they covered fresh rioting in Portland
     
    Just because they’re mainly white or that’s where Soros wants the attention?
  9. https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChicagoRiots?src=hashtag_click

    Some good videos. Running down the escalators and out of Nordstroms with their loot.

  10. At what point do we rename reparations “gibs”?

  11. I’m glad you posted this so quickly. I can’t see anything, but I have been sitting here listening to three hours of mayhem, mostly sirens. I don’t ever recall hearing an emergency response like this, and I have never lived anywhere except the cities a lot of people on here hate the most, from some of the comments. A reminder that these expensive stores catered mostly to tourists. Most recently they appear to be catering to the rap-music crowd. Quite a few residents here never shop at these stores. Many property owners in this area are absentees.

  12. Where else can you get French bread?

  13. Why am I not there!

    Think of the purses….oh the purses!!!!

    • LOL: AnotherDad
    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Thoughts

    Sure, but if you managed to get your hands on a nice purse, a group of yewts would relieve you of it in seconds.

    , @kikz
    @Thoughts

    best comment on the chiraq looting.... nothing says justice quite like a louis vuitton...

  14. Dems are playing with fire. Blue cities are in a downward spiral now of rising crime and shrinking tax bases. How many of the stores getting looted now in Chicago were looted earlier this summer? How many will risk reopening to get looted again?

    If Biden wins, Dems in Congress can pass a multi-trillion dollar bailout of the states, and Biden will sign it. Maybe they can limp along in that case with high crime but avoid fiscal disaster like Koch-era New York.

    If Trump wins, he will have the blue cities and states over a barrel, and be able to make demands about law enforcement (including immigration enforcement) in return for bailing them out.

    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    @Dave Pinsen

    Dems are playing with fire. Blue cities are in a downward spiral now of rising crime and shrinking tax bases.

    Maybe not. Perhaps the strategy is to destroy the cities so that their residents go out into Congressional districts where gerrymandering has preserved a 55/45 Republican advantage, while the numbers racked up by Democrats in cities are regularly in the 90% range.

    CA, IL,NY were NEVER going to give Trump their electoral votes. So maybe the strategy is to send the voters to other states like PA, FL, AZ where they can tip?

    Replies: @Jesse, @Polynikes

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Dave Pinsen

    Scott Adams has raised an interesting point. In some of the cities that have experienced severe looting and arson, such as Minneapolis, Seattle, and Portland, the mayors have kept the police from taking aggressive action to stop it. So, in the future, how will people who operate businesses in those cities be able to get insurance? How can an insurance company write a policy for a business knowing that if there's a riot, rioters will be allowed free rein? It seems these cities will have difficulties maintaining business districts.

    Replies: @Barnard, @Thoughts, @anon

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Dave Pinsen


    If Trump wins, he will have the blue cities and states over a barrel, and be able to make demands about law enforcement (including immigration enforcement) in return for bailing them out.
     
    True. And yet he won't. He'll just tweet about what an awesome job he's doing and about how he should be added to Mount Rushmore.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8610013/White-House-reached-South-Dakota-governor-adding-Trump-Mount-Rushmore.html

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @HallParvey, @Brutusale, @Ron Mexico

    , @AnotherDad
    @Dave Pinsen


    If Biden wins, Dems in Congress can pass a multi-trillion dollar bailout of the states, and Biden will sign it. Maybe they can limp along in that case with high crime but avoid fiscal disaster like Koch-era New York.
     
    This.

    Huge federal bailout is clearly the plan. Basically, the Democrat constituencies--blacks, bureaucrats, the lobbyists, lawyers, consultants, contractors blob, low paid immigrants, single moms, women in soft makework jobs--are parasites. They live off the labors of the highly productive--mostly white guys. (One thing the Xi virus has made clear is that it's a small number of guys working that actually make things function--lights on, food on the shelves, gas for the car.) And increasingly off the accumulated capital--actual and "reputational"--of previous productive generations of Americans.

    In the last decade, the establishment has found that the fed can roll the presses--absent a true replacement/competitor--the dollars status as the world's reserve currency buffers any immediate downside. Free money!

    That's the Democrats plan. Shutdown the economy. Riot away. All their constituencies will get bailed out. Screw the future!

    Who is going to pay for these riots--your children, your grandchildren, your "posterity".

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @MBlanc46
    @Dave Pinsen

    Trump make demands? He might talk about making demands. He might say that he’s thinking about making demands. But demands will not be made.

  15. And we are being told that as soon as “systemic racism” ends so will these crime sprees. Does anyone have anymore jokes they would like to share?

    • Agree: bomag, Peter Johnson
    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    @Wake up

    The fact is that back in the days of "systematic racism," the crime rate was very low and most Blacks at least superficially adopted the values of the dominant White population. Blacks were let off the leash thanks to welfare, civil rights and a soft on crime approach and this is one result.

    , @Rosie
    @Wake up


    And we are being told that as soon as “systemic racism” ends so will these crime sprees. Does anyone have anymore jokes they would like to share?
     
    I've been trying to put myself in the place of these elites lately to see what I can come up with. It occurs to me that, if indeed these riots are spontaneous rather than orchestrated, the elites feel they have no choice in how to respond. What message would it send, for example, to crack down on the looters?

    To crack down would, it seems, to imply that their conduct is inexcusable and beyond the pale. Is there a concern that this would vindicate "racists" or something? To be honest, it wouldn't surprise me. I wouldn't put it past these people to allow the total destruction of major cities rather than admit, however implicitly, that they've had it all wrong these past 70 years.

    Replies: @Kronos

  16. Forget it Jake. It’s Chi-town.

  17. When you put up with crazy, you get more crazy.

  18. I am reading about this at Twitter. It looks like a repeat of New York a few months ago — looters pulling up in cars, very organized:

    “Watching from my balcony in Rivernorth … so many feral #Chicago southsiders on the streets but also hundreds of cars letting out lots of people who go running … they are looting the restaurant across the street. This isn’t like a protest riot .. these fuckers are everywhere.”

    “Looting at Walgreens on Clark and Ontario. This is organized, many cars pull up at once and looted the store and fled within a few minutes via the back door. At least 30 looters. I bought a sandwich here earlier tonight #ChicagoScanner #Chicago”

    “currently watching Taeshia Rochon of Chicago Illinois robbing and looting in the mall on her Facebook live lol”

    One difference is that these are recent Tweets. This is going on in the middle of the night.

    • Replies: @Jane Plain
    @notsaying


    It looks like a repeat of New York a few months ago — looters pulling up in cars, very organized:

     

    Was it so organized in NYC? I don't think so. This seems way worse.

    Replies: @notsaying

  19. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    Meanwhile, Apple is hosting Black women empowerment roundtables for their Apple Music subscribers, featuring successful Black women’s tips and tricks for young black women just starting out to reach professional goals.

    Kind of the professional black female version of Jordan Peterson:

    • LOL: BB753
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Anonymous

    Deep degeneracy ... pumped directly to you over devices those people wouldn't grasp in a million years.

    I don't know whether Steve Jobs would approve. I would say no.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Clyde
    @Anonymous

    Their so called black professional look is somewhere in between trashy-hoe-bizarre. The top woman is an extra from the movie - The Fifth Element -when Chris Tucker comes in.

    , @Saxon
    @Anonymous

    "Wash your stanky pussy, bucko."
    -Cardi B

    , @carol
    @Anonymous

    When the regular Ghetto Hoops just aren't ghetto enough!

    , @Cloudbuster
    @Anonymous

    More depressing than that video is the universal approval of it in the Twitter replies.

    Replies: @Lurker

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Imagine all the dutiful parents who relent to giving their whining children an iPhone, and go through all the blocking procedures to protect them, but don’t consider blocking Apple Music because they have no idea that it’s a nesting area for loudmouth ignorant black ho baby mama's joyfully telling them how to be ratchet!

    What I love most about these latest vids of looting is since there’s apparently no whites or Jews to guide them in this instance, the negroes of Chicago effectively demonstrate the absolute JOY they experience while yielding to their nature. A lot of white BLM'ers don’t really get to see that, since most have few or no black friends.

    No fake outrage here! Just pure and simple nignance from a pure and simple people, unencumbered by the oppressive dictates of decent behavior required for the successful operation of modern civilization.

    This morning, they must be SOOOO TIRED!! lol

    , @BB753
    @Anonymous

    "Hoes have evolved", she says. She's a true believer in HBD! LOL!

    , @Kibernetika
    @Anonymous

    Biden's VP pick revealed! Hairstyle is suggestive of Fritz Lang's Metropolis.

    https://youtu.be/hALgUp2iwik

  20. @Thoughts
    Why am I not there!

    Think of the purses....oh the purses!!!!

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @kikz

    Sure, but if you managed to get your hands on a nice purse, a group of yewts would relieve you of it in seconds.

  21. What do you expect when you feature Kylie in the middle of a Cardi B video?

    Whores in this house…
    There’s some whores in this house…Hol up

  22. @Clyde
    For a test I went to these websites and saw no mention of Chicago rioting. CNN, FOX, NY Times. It's not important to them. Did the Washingtoon Post cover last night's shoot 'em up in DC? I could not find it but they covered fresh rioting in Portland

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Anon, @Kronos

    The only thing about Chicago on Drudge at the moment is something about using social media to track quaranine violators. Is that what they’re called nowadays?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @The Alarmist


    The only thing about Chicago on Drudge at the moment...
     
    Do you ever get the feeling Drudge's editorial decisions are influenced by whoever is his latest boyfriend?

    Replies: @Anon

  23. Broadcastify has an unusual amount of people listening to the Chicago police zone 4 feed. I presume that’s where the mess is.

  24. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:

    See Nypaul, A Bend in the River. Describes the breakdown of a Central African country after the Whites left. It has a surprising resemblance to recent/current events in the West.

    The Western cities lost their economic function back in the 1950s, were bankrupt during the 1960s, the current system of urban support was made law with the Civil Rights Act (1964) and the Immigration Act (1965) of the Hippie Revolution era, Federal support became significant in about 1970, cities brought in foreigners selected for their inability to be productive in an industrial economy to keep up their number of representatives/political power as their previous populations left to find jobs outside the cities, and cities deteriorated after the entire political financing strategy of the 1960s was proved unworkable in 2008. By 2020 the cities were in active revolt, blocking Federal authority and unable to maintain civil peace inside city limits.

    Naipaul pointed out in Bend that when government becomes irrelevant, and a governing elite is about to be replaced by another, people know it. They (both people in authority and the general population) grab what they can in preparation for bad times ahead. Cities don’t have enough money to (a) prevent blackouts (b) police themselves (c) support the economically unproductive foreigners (and natives) within their borders. The strategy whereby cities governed themselves has failed, and there is no money to restore it. Even the rather fatuous Mayor of Portland finally realized this and is now trying to drop his previous supporting coalition of radicals and rule by force. He can try because Portland did not import many economically unproductive people, but his success seems unlikely — too big a change, the new coalition he’s trying to organize won’t form quickly enough.

    The Democrats have used COVID-19 to, among other things, set up a succession crisis after the 2019 Presidential elections. The Democrats are the urban coalition, and the cities desperately need money. Politicians and managers have a bad tendency to think that, if only they had complete information and control, they could make things work. As a researcher in automated systems and the application of systems thinking to human organizations, I can say that the managers/politicians are wrong. It is their lack of complete control that permits the system they manage to function at all. Many processes need rapid response to local conditions. A system of complete control by managers/politicians means delayed decisions made without adequate information or familiarity with time critical processes. In other words, Maoist/Stalinist/USSR/UK/US catastrophes. Free nations really do better than authoritarian nations, provided that the free nations have populations that want to produce rather than take. That’s right out of Locke and history both. Therefore: A succession crisis followed by an urban dominated government will be unable to glean enough resources to make urban areas governable.

    Looks like we’re in for a rough ride, starting with the 2020 US elections / succession crisis. I suspect that it will later be seen as no worse than the re-organization of the USSR into the RF — an unusually rough Kondratiev Winter (*), no more. After that, yet another cycle of economic expansion, this one probably based on the new capabilities of present day startup startup firms. With any luck this K Winter won’t even have another world war. It appears that the cycle of urban dominance we’ve just been through (**) has destroyed the autarky that the various empires needed to fight World War I and II. And, of course, nuclear weapons make central wars (***) very dangerous indeed.

    *) https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/economics/kondratieff-wave/

    **) Copley, Uncivilization

    ***) A “central war” is one in which the losing coalition is occupied and its government dictated by the winners. WW II is an obvious example, but so was the US invasion of Iraq. Herman Kahn pointed out in Thinking about the Unthinkable that central wars are infeasible when both the participant alliances have nuclear weapons and delivery systems, as nuclear armed losers might well decide to bring the victors down with them.

    • Agree: BenKenobi
    • Thanks: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Johnny Pranke
    @Anonymous

    Interesting comment. What probability distribution would you assign to the following outcomes over the next decade?

    Kondratiev winter only
    Intense, unprecedented violent civil unrest (much worse than even now) almost resulting in political dissolution, but not to the level of a war
    Peaceful breakup/secession
    Civil War

    Here's mine:
    K-winter only: 30%
    Violent civil unrest but no breakup: 50%
    Peaceful secession: 5%
    Civil War: 15%

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @PiltdownMan
    @Anonymous

    I second that recommendation. V.S. Naipaul's A Bend in the River is a clear-eyed novel, and very apropos.

    https://booksjar.com/pdf-epub-a-bend-in-the-river-download/

    Replies: @36 ulster, @International Jew

    , @Bugg
    @Anonymous

    Big Picture-business had brought me into Wall Street area and midtown Manhattan. It's a ghost town; plywood boards cover storefronts and building entrances. Nothing is open-roll down gate, next to "for lease" signs, over and over. Bums are everywhere. Not sure the Dems grasp somebody has to pay for their welfare state, and off COVID social distance and remote work, that kind of business is now going to avoid The Suck and it's taxation.

    , @jimmyriddle
    @Anonymous

    Ted Wheeler's opponent in November is this woman - who refuses to condemn arson of occupied buildings:

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1291941625308958721

    , @Cloudbuster
    @Anonymous

    ...after the 2019 Presidential elections.

    Man, I totally missed the 2019 Presidential elections!

    Replies: @Anonymous

  25. @Peter Johnson
    Twitter has not censored it yet, so if you type "Chicago looting" into the Twitter search bar, lots of tweets with photos appear. If you type "Chicago looting" into the New York Times search bar, you are assured that no such event has happened since no entries exist for it.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Mark G., @Jack D

  26. Meanwhile, taking personal interest in your whereabouts and deploying the Junior Social Distancing League

    https://postimg.cc/KK40dFx3

    • Replies: @mmack
    @El Dato

    El Dato,

    Mayor Groot, she's right on top of the Real Crime in Chicago:

    https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/fencing-erected-at-montrose-beach-after-mayor-lightfoot-blasts-residents-for-large-gatherings/2319389/

    , @36 ulster
    @El Dato

    "Social Distancing Ambassadors." Orwell and Huxley might have grudgingly admired that phrase. I believe that Summer, Ethan and the 300 or so others not so named may be unpleasantly surprised at the reactions of Chicago's "counter-revolutionaries."

    , @Piglet
    @El Dato

    Other than a blonde in a black bikini on the right side of the picture, everyone in this picture is male, a clear sign this is a gay beach. I'm surprised lesbo Mayor Groot didn't just look the other way.

  27. Seattle looters want in on the action— Loot/destroy Whole Foods, Amazon, Chase bank there. Amazon Go is now loot and go.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Clyde

    Fortunately, my package is coming from Texas. Screw you Jeff, I ordered it from Walmart.

    Despite the weeks of rioting and looting, my dingbat liberal relatives are as leftist as ever. They get their news solely from the NY Times and Wapo, which are suppressing the bad news. A liberal has to be physically assaulted before they'll change their mind.

    Replies: @Clyde, @Anonymousse

  28. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, Apple is hosting Black women empowerment roundtables for their Apple Music subscribers, featuring successful Black women's tips and tricks for young black women just starting out to reach professional goals.

    Kind of the professional black female version of Jordan Peterson:

    https://twitter.com/sukihanagoat/status/1291778515285749760?s=20

    https://twitter.com/sukihanagoat/status/1291787002560614400?s=20

    Replies: @El Dato, @Clyde, @Saxon, @carol, @Cloudbuster, @Anonymous, @BB753, @Kibernetika

    Deep degeneracy … pumped directly to you over devices those people wouldn’t grasp in a million years.

    I don’t know whether Steve Jobs would approve. I would say no.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @El Dato



    I don’t know whether Steve Jobs would approve. I would say no.
     
    I am rather under the impression that Jobs was not the sort to give in to shakedowns.

    I don't know how well remembered it is today, but when Apple wanted to expand their corporate campus a decade ago, the Cupertino City Council tried to shake down Apple for free iPads and Wi-fi.

    Long story short, the city council expected A Big Haul. What they got, instead, was The Big Freeze:


    "You see, I’m a simpleton. I’ve always had this view that we pay taxes and the city should do those things. Now if we can get out of paying taxes, I’d be glad to put up Wi Fi."

     

    You can find an overview of what happened here:

    http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=35771

    In any case, Tim Cook is now in charge of Apple...and it shows.

    No doubt we can look forward to Mr. Cook putting on a "BLM is in us all!" rally that will culminate in a black man sodomising him onstage. Anything to burnish Apple's SJW credentials.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

  29. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:

    Blacks mobs are ransacking expensive stores in the Loop and on the Magnificent Mile.

    On the other end of the retail scale, did Walmart refuse to rebuild in Chicago after the events of May, thereby cutting their losses?

    Or did the idiot mayor of Chicago manage to talk the (apparently even more idiotic) Walmart folks into rebuilding their store(s) so it/they can be looted all over again?

    What about the other chain stores that got hit back in May? Are any of them refusing to reopen? Or are they all coming back for what promises to be a second round of looting (at least)?

  30. Has anybody ever asked Joe Biden what his plan is for why this kind of thing won’t go on throughout his term?

    Forget Biden. What’s Trump’s plan? What is he doing about it? Yeah yeah, “blue cities”, but this has been happening nationwide, with not many repercussions so far.

    • Replies: @LRFD
    @Dumbo

    Honestly, I think that Trump tried to send in troops to DC during the worst of the June riots. I suspect that his generals told him, “No”. His options are now limited to various DHS personnel that don’t have the authority, numbers, firepower, and rules of engagement needed shutdown the criminal class emboldened by the political class. There’s no opposing force to stop the riots in blue cities of blue states, and there’s little hope of relief short of a Deus Ex Machina event like the bikers in Sturgis self-organizing to take back Chicago.

    The riots won’t stop without an overwhelming show of force and corresponding show of will. Neither Trump nor Biden have the resources or support to do this. Biden also lacks the inclination. (That is, his handlers lack the inclination.) Things will get worse. The center will not hold. There will be rivers of blood before the end. Pray.

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Dumbo

    What’s Trump’s plan?

    Trump has offered federal law enforcement to help. Blue cities reject it. What do you think he should do? Any action he takes is characterized as dictatorial, authoritarian, fascistic, etc.

    Replies: @black sea, @Steve Richter, @Reg Cæsar

    , @John Johnson
    @Dumbo

    Forget Biden. What’s Trump’s plan? What is he doing about it? Yeah yeah, “blue cities”, but this has been happening nationwide, with not many repercussions so far.

    Maintaining law and order within cities is not the jurisdiction of the Federal government anymore than cleaning the sidewalks.

    Trump's plan should be to remind the people of this and then head to the golf course.

    Cities like Chicago continue to elect liberals that refuse to hold Black criminals accountable out of a patronizing belief that Blacks are always victims and have no moral accountability.

  31. Here’s another difference from New York’s looting: two people on Twitter report having heard shots fired. Looks like they are still going at it at 4:15am their time.

    I have no way to know if this is true. There are lots of cars and looters in some places but I think the protesters are long gone:

    “Officers can’t get EMS in to get security guard that has been shot. BLM is blocking the road. #ChicagoRiots #chicagolooting”

  32. @Jim Christian
    Where'd ya find it, Steve? Chicago Trib and Second City Cop aren't talking (yet). Must be an extremely late-night/early morning 'event'?

    Replies: @Alden, @lysias, @kikz, @Jane Plain, @36 ulster, @Grace Jones

    I saw it on freerepublic 2 hours ago. The police should go on strike for a week. Another town will turn into Detroit.

    • Thanks: Jim Christian
    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Alden

    Most cops live outside of the city right? So they won’t be shooting themselves in the foot with vandalized/undefeated homes and shrinking real estate values.

  33. • Replies: @mmack
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Well to be fair, they hired the pianist to get some track laid and not dance around like some Kansas City F-ggots:

    https://youtu.be/0H2W1lK7P-I

    , @Piglet
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Rap "music" about guns, bitches, drug dealing, murder, stealing, killing cops, etc., remains okay.

  34. blacks loot White stores b/c White-bad and black-good. For amusement, try to explain to one that looting is the wholesale abuse of another’s rights just as slavery was the wholesale abuse of Africans’ rights, and I believe the response you would receive is some variation of “You crazy.”

    Until blacks learn moral reasoning in the abstract (never) they will remain unsuited to live in white society.

    • Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @James Speaks


    Until blacks learn moral reasoning in the abstract (never) they will remain unsuited to live in white society.
     
    Well the luck's on their side then, because our "Ruling Class" long ago decided to make "white society" a thing of the past. And not incidentally an object of such universal scorn and derision that even white people are delighted to see it gone.

    Some small minority will be able to figure out what most of us here already know, but it will be far too late and their numbers will be far too small.

    Replies: @Anonymousse

    , @Anon7
    @James Speaks

    Looking at these videos, I see what appears to be white hands wielding axes and breaking windows, as well as "rioters" or "looters" dressed head to toe in black with gas masks and helmets. Antifa?

    In the case of what are obviously unprepared black looters, smh. So much for free K-12 schooling, free lunches, welfare. You're welcome.

    The only way we'll ever know anything is to have a massive police or troop presence surrounding an area, moving in to arrest everyone on the street. Then, sort them out.

    Are any of them nearby residents? Where do they come from? Black looters, white antifa? Are any of them paid or subsidized to be there? American citizens? We can't know until we test.

    Replies: @BB753

    , @Kolya Krassotkin
    @James Speaks

    What would whites loot from black stores? Weaves? High end sneakers? Grills, platform shoes, cheap bling?

    Nah. I just can't imagine it.

    Replies: @Kronos

    , @Neuday
    @James Speaks


    Until blacks learn moral reasoning in the abstract (never) they will remain unsuited to live in white society.
     
    We seem to be headed in the opposite direction, as BLACKS! are learning Who Whom, and they like what they see.
  35. TV news channels are showing anti-government protests in Lebanon, following the big blast last week. With their faces covered up and weapons slung over their shoulders, it looks just like Portland or Seattle last month, albeit with more pushback from the authorities.

    Here’s a typical newsreel:

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Andrew M

    The US left no breathing space between the blast and the announcement that "people yearn to break free" and "someone must go" (complete with Twitter applause by various individuals, I reckon these are sockpuppets or Lebanese can remember 2006 when someone had to go and the subsequent birth pangs of a New Middle East turned out to be tremendous)

    A color revolution is coming to ease out Hezbollah.

    Replies: @Alfa158

  36. Anon[222] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde
    For a test I went to these websites and saw no mention of Chicago rioting. CNN, FOX, NY Times. It's not important to them. Did the Washingtoon Post cover last night's shoot 'em up in DC? I could not find it but they covered fresh rioting in Portland

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Anon, @Kronos

    … fresh rioting in Portland

    ‘You can’t control people’s anger’: Portland protesters set fire to police union headquarters as tensions rise again

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/09/portland-police-union-fire/

    The arson thing seems to be well established now as a pièce de résistance in any structure-involved protest. Look for arson to be decriminalized as disproportionately affecting black allies.

  37. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:

    A reminder that these expensive stores catered mostly to tourists. Most recently they appear to be catering to the rap-music crowd. Quite a few residents here never shop at these stores..

    Judging by the latest posts in the thread, it appears that looters are now going after the everyday stores and shops.

    So far: Walgreens and a local restaurant. Are there others?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Anonymous

    Judging by the latest posts in the thread, it appears that looters are now going after the everyday stores and shops.

    So far: Walgreens and a local restaurant. Are there others?

    Nordstrom rack, shoe store, Best buy and a 7-11.

    There goes the liberal rationalization that they were just stores for the wealthy.

    In the liberal mind I guess it is ok for Black looters to pull up in a luxury SUV and steal Canada goose jackets as long as the store is normally frequented by the wealthy.

    Who are we really kidding? Liberals outside the area wouldn't care if Chicago burned to the ground. In their minds all Whites have it coming.

    You see we robbed them of their wealth even though there are African countries older than Poland where Blacks don't have luxury SUVs or basic cars for that matter. Oh but that was somehow caused by Whitey too.

    Bad stuff = Whitey.

    , @cityview
    @Anonymous

    Yes, absolutely. It is important to know that looters have also gone after everyday stores since May. The Loop has had many instances of Walgreens trashed and looted. Walgreens, Target, 7-11--these have all been damaged and looted.

  38. Anon[282] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde
    Seattle looters want in on the action--- Loot/destroy Whole Foods, Amazon, Chase bank there. Amazon Go is now loot and go.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1292704793329143808

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1292710609557975040

    Replies: @Anon

    Fortunately, my package is coming from Texas. Screw you Jeff, I ordered it from Walmart.

    Despite the weeks of rioting and looting, my dingbat liberal relatives are as leftist as ever. They get their news solely from the NY Times and Wapo, which are suppressing the bad news. A liberal has to be physically assaulted before they’ll change their mind.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Anon


    Despite the weeks of rioting and looting, my dingbat liberal relatives are as leftist as ever. They get their news solely from the NY Times and Wapo, which are suppressing the bad news. A liberal has to be physically assaulted before they’ll change their mind.
     
    One physical assault or rape will not do it. A few assaults or incidents that cost them tens of thousands will or might. They might me sadomasochists too. And ethno-masochists.
    , @Anonymousse
    @Anon

    There will be a whole lot more changed minds soon.

  39. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    Black mayor, police chief, attorney general and so on down the line. When that happens any city goes downhill and becomes Detroit. They’re all pro-criminal because the criminals are all black. When the lights go out blacks start stealing, looting and raping by reflex. The higher-end stores may all be calling it quits. Along with the covid hysteria causing small businesses to go under Chicago may be experiencing a huge transformation. Blacks are showing their true colors now. The Dems have unleashed this fire but can’t control it. Pelosi with her bended knee stunt and all the rest have become traitors to America. It’s a gang of super-traitors.

  40. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, Apple is hosting Black women empowerment roundtables for their Apple Music subscribers, featuring successful Black women's tips and tricks for young black women just starting out to reach professional goals.

    Kind of the professional black female version of Jordan Peterson:

    https://twitter.com/sukihanagoat/status/1291778515285749760?s=20

    https://twitter.com/sukihanagoat/status/1291787002560614400?s=20

    Replies: @El Dato, @Clyde, @Saxon, @carol, @Cloudbuster, @Anonymous, @BB753, @Kibernetika

    Their so called black professional look is somewhere in between trashy-hoe-bizarre. The top woman is an extra from the movie – The Fifth Element -when Chris Tucker comes in.

  41. @The Alarmist
    Well ... yeah. I guess this is the New Normal, but are they at least wearing masks?

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @JimDandy, @anon, @Buck Ransom

    Black mobs are ransacking expensive stores

    Well at least they’re learning from the New York mobs.

  42. Steve and others here are asking what the Democrats are going to do about the riots and looting. Why on earth do you think they’re going to do anything at all? This is one of their prime demographics, doing what they like best.

    If that’s not enough, keep in mind that this is the cohort all of their other cohorts sympathize with the most. Sounds like a solution without a problem. For the Democrats anyway.

    • Agree: Alfa158
  43. Conclusion: Unassimilated black tribes fastened to the old-timey ways of the negro slave mind, minus essential and consistent white stewardship, always turns out bad:

  44. @James Speaks
    blacks loot White stores b/c White-bad and black-good. For amusement, try to explain to one that looting is the wholesale abuse of another’s rights just as slavery was the wholesale abuse of Africans’ rights, and I believe the response you would receive is some variation of “You crazy.”

    Until blacks learn moral reasoning in the abstract (never) they will remain unsuited to live in white society.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Anon7, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Neuday

    Until blacks learn moral reasoning in the abstract (never) they will remain unsuited to live in white society.

    Well the luck’s on their side then, because our “Ruling Class” long ago decided to make “white society” a thing of the past. And not incidentally an object of such universal scorn and derision that even white people are delighted to see it gone.

    Some small minority will be able to figure out what most of us here already know, but it will be far too late and their numbers will be far too small.

    • Replies: @Anonymousse
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder


    Some small minority will be able to figure out what most of us here already know, but it will be far too late and their numbers will be far too small.
     
    Well gee willikers, I guess it’s hopeless and you should just off yourself then.

    These emotionally needy eyores posting demoralization are an absolute curse upon a people facing an uphill battle. Putting aside your personal emotional state (as men do) ask yourself... how you are helping posting that.

    And if you already KNOW it’s not helpful then ask yourself WHY EXACTLY are you doing it.

    Obviously it’s hard, but we can we be hard too. Cowboy TF up.
  45. The internal logic seems to be that they can turn this off quietly if and when Biden enters office, thereby proving that the leftist approach to crime works forever and ever Amen. Blackmail, basically.

    It’d be interesting to see (1) if they can stop it and (2) if the people who comprise the tax base will believe the BS (in their own areas) and continue being the cash cows/sitting ducks.

    O/T: Canadian case of a landlord removing the windows and doors of the house of a woman who couldn’t pay her rent. (Please, no crowing; don’t go full trucon.) Of COURSE said landlord is Chinese, and of COURSE he’s playing the innocent who didn’t know it was both morally reprehensible and against the law. The future will be interesting; I’m getting more and more sympathetic to the anti Chinese pogroms you see in places like Malaysia and the Philippines.

    • Replies: @Craig Nelsen
    @Jesse

    The Bolsheviks used foreigners--primarily Chinese and (probably Jewish) Latvians--to do the heavy lifting as they genocided 66 million white Russian Christians in their own country. The foreigners served as personal security for the top Bolsheviks (overwhelmingly Jewish), were relied on for mass executions, were the support staff for the torture and execution chambers of the CheKa, and carried out intra-military punishments.

    Look for the Chinese Exclusion Act to take its place alongside the Tuskeegee syphyllis hoax as one of the most important events in American history.

    Replies: @Jack D

  46. @Wake up
    And we are being told that as soon as “systemic racism” ends so will these crime sprees. Does anyone have anymore jokes they would like to share?

    Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel, @Rosie

    The fact is that back in the days of “systematic racism,” the crime rate was very low and most Blacks at least superficially adopted the values of the dominant White population. Blacks were let off the leash thanks to welfare, civil rights and a soft on crime approach and this is one result.

  47. So next year when these pathetic morons in State and Local Governments can’t make their payrolls, pensions, or anything else due to the complete collapse in tax revenues, what is the game plan?

    Borrow it from the Federal Government, which will simply print the money up, and live with the hyperinflation?

    They are dead either way, and they have it coming to them for being low grade cowards in the first place.

    And in the meantime, all of the Urban Sophisticates who have learned to steal without consequence……going to be a serious day of reckoning for them, sooner or later.

    • Replies: @Flip
    @theMann


    Borrow it from the Federal Government, which will simply print the money up, and live with the hyperinflation?
     
    I can't see politicians allowing defaults if they still have access to a printing press.
  48. The Local TV News has been on in the background for about an hour, here in Rust Belt City at 6:45am local time. This morning’s glancing view of national/international developments: USPS delays, the 2020 Census, Beirut aftermath, Facebook fosters Social Justice, Trump/unemployment, student loans.

    Nothing of interest happened in Chicago overnight, at least not until the Today Show narrative, coming to a telescreen near you in 15 minutes.

    Edit: “20 Shot Near US Capitol”? Also didn’t happen.

    • Replies: @mmack
    @ic1000

    Capital City news in Flatlandia, USA had a story on the Chicago looti, I mean, "Mostly Peaceful Protests" in Chicago this morning. Made it a point to mention it was because of a "Police Shooting".

  49. My guess is these are not disorganized mobs looting the fancy stores, but rather organized gangs taking advantage of the chaos. Same as in NYC when the getaway cars were some very fancy SUVs.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Paleo Liberal

    Exactly. There’s no way the vibrant locals have access to cars, smartphones, are able to text each other, and know where the luxury stores are. That kind of info/capability is strictly high-level balla only.

    , @anon
    @Paleo Liberal

    My guess is these are not disorganized mobs looting the fancy stores, but rather organized gangs taking advantage of the chaos.

    Consider the power of "and", Mr. Naive. Enjoy the scene you helped to create.

  50. I don’t think Chicago will turn into Detroit, but Cleveland is a distinct possibility.

    Look for an uptick in shootings tomorrow after the blacks get home and start fighting over the loot.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Anon

    OneFiveThree, I have family in Cleveland and you don't see this systematic, organized looting and trashing of the city. Shooting and murder yes, trashing the city no.

  51. Anonymous[155] • Disclaimer says:

    In the cant of our modern, Economist-whipped times, ’tis merely the practice of ‘unorthodox shopping’ we see here, in that the oppressed, trapped in their whitey-denominated ‘food deserts’ or ‘retail wastelands’ or only claiming their fair dues.

    It is the synonym in PC Speak of the ‘undocumented worker’ – that heroic gentleman who, quite rightly, sees national borders and national laws as mere lines on a map, or characters on a piece of paper.

  52. @Peter Johnson
    Twitter has not censored it yet, so if you type "Chicago looting" into the Twitter search bar, lots of tweets with photos appear. If you type "Chicago looting" into the New York Times search bar, you are assured that no such event has happened since no entries exist for it.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Mark G., @Jack D

    If you type “Chicago looting” into the New York Times search bar, you are assured that no such event has happened since no entries exist for it.

    If they had the internet back in the nineteen thirties, if you had typed in “Ukrainian famine” into the New York Times search bar you would have been assured that no such event had happened too.

    • Agree: Redman
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Mark G.

    Good one, Mark, and worst of all, iSteve wasn't around then.

    , @Lurker
    @Mark G.

    But perhaps some late breaking Emmett Till news?

  53. Q/. What is the difference between Black Man and Batman?

    A/. Batman sometimes goes out without Robbin’.

  54. “Or do they figure that as long as they control the media, nobody will notice all the boarded up windows on Michigan Avenue, the most expensive shopping street between the coasts?”

    What you are seeing here is the beginning of a replay of Detroit’s descent into third-world-slum status.
    The 1967 riot black riots destroyed, among other things, the White businesses (boarded up stores). Whites fled and racially mixed Detroit turned into an American Harare (capital of Zimbabwe). Chicago’s Lori Lightfoot is sort of a reincarnation of Detroit’s Coleman Young, a Robert Mugabe wannabe. The only question is: how long will it take? With the Dems’ castrate-the cops approach to “systemic racism” I’m guessing the replay will take less time than a few microaggressions.

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2017/08/the-detroit-riots-of-1967-and-its.html

  55. @Anonymous
    See Nypaul, A Bend in the River. Describes the breakdown of a Central African country after the Whites left. It has a surprising resemblance to recent/current events in the West.

    The Western cities lost their economic function back in the 1950s, were bankrupt during the 1960s, the current system of urban support was made law with the Civil Rights Act (1964) and the Immigration Act (1965) of the Hippie Revolution era, Federal support became significant in about 1970, cities brought in foreigners selected for their inability to be productive in an industrial economy to keep up their number of representatives/political power as their previous populations left to find jobs outside the cities, and cities deteriorated after the entire political financing strategy of the 1960s was proved unworkable in 2008. By 2020 the cities were in active revolt, blocking Federal authority and unable to maintain civil peace inside city limits.

    Naipaul pointed out in Bend that when government becomes irrelevant, and a governing elite is about to be replaced by another, people know it. They (both people in authority and the general population) grab what they can in preparation for bad times ahead. Cities don't have enough money to (a) prevent blackouts (b) police themselves (c) support the economically unproductive foreigners (and natives) within their borders. The strategy whereby cities governed themselves has failed, and there is no money to restore it. Even the rather fatuous Mayor of Portland finally realized this and is now trying to drop his previous supporting coalition of radicals and rule by force. He can try because Portland did not import many economically unproductive people, but his success seems unlikely -- too big a change, the new coalition he's trying to organize won't form quickly enough.

    The Democrats have used COVID-19 to, among other things, set up a succession crisis after the 2019 Presidential elections. The Democrats are the urban coalition, and the cities desperately need money. Politicians and managers have a bad tendency to think that, if only they had complete information and control, they could make things work. As a researcher in automated systems and the application of systems thinking to human organizations, I can say that the managers/politicians are wrong. It is their lack of complete control that permits the system they manage to function at all. Many processes need rapid response to local conditions. A system of complete control by managers/politicians means delayed decisions made without adequate information or familiarity with time critical processes. In other words, Maoist/Stalinist/USSR/UK/US catastrophes. Free nations really do better than authoritarian nations, provided that the free nations have populations that want to produce rather than take. That's right out of Locke and history both. Therefore: A succession crisis followed by an urban dominated government will be unable to glean enough resources to make urban areas governable.

    Looks like we're in for a rough ride, starting with the 2020 US elections / succession crisis. I suspect that it will later be seen as no worse than the re-organization of the USSR into the RF -- an unusually rough Kondratiev Winter (*), no more. After that, yet another cycle of economic expansion, this one probably based on the new capabilities of present day startup startup firms. With any luck this K Winter won't even have another world war. It appears that the cycle of urban dominance we've just been through (**) has destroyed the autarky that the various empires needed to fight World War I and II. And, of course, nuclear weapons make central wars (***) very dangerous indeed.



    *) https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/economics/kondratieff-wave/

    **) Copley, Uncivilization

    ***) A "central war" is one in which the losing coalition is occupied and its government dictated by the winners. WW II is an obvious example, but so was the US invasion of Iraq. Herman Kahn pointed out in Thinking about the Unthinkable that central wars are infeasible when both the participant alliances have nuclear weapons and delivery systems, as nuclear armed losers might well decide to bring the victors down with them.

    Replies: @Johnny Pranke, @PiltdownMan, @Bugg, @jimmyriddle, @Cloudbuster

    Interesting comment. What probability distribution would you assign to the following outcomes over the next decade?

    Kondratiev winter only
    Intense, unprecedented violent civil unrest (much worse than even now) almost resulting in political dissolution, but not to the level of a war
    Peaceful breakup/secession
    Civil War

    Here’s mine:
    K-winter only: 30%
    Violent civil unrest but no breakup: 50%
    Peaceful secession: 5%
    Civil War: 15%

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Johnny Pranke


    Here’s mine:
    K-winter only: 30%
    Violent civil unrest but no breakup: 50%
    Peaceful secession: 5%
    Civil War: 15%
     
    Good question. A scenario that can't be acted upon is entertainment, no more. So here's an answer:



    * K-winter only: 0%. The Left has taken the K-winter as putting society into what they call a "pre-revolutionary condition", which is why they are financing Antifa, destructive District Attorneys, self-destructing news networks, and the like (*). That takes out the "only" part. Odds of a K-Winter in combination with other transformative large scale events - 100%, the K-Winter has already started.

    * Violent civil unrest increases but no breakup: 90% My original post points out that the current disputed is urban vs. hinterland. Copley (**) says that the dispute is the result of hinterland overpopulation sending unemployable descendants to urban areas, which have grown so populous that they dominate politics. This has happened world wide. I add that the Western cities, at least, have none of the natural monopolies such as shipping, manufacture that assembles imported products for domestic use, easy communications between physically adjacent firms, even regional dominance in specialized services (courts of law, specialized luxuries). All gone, or still there, but not as monopolies and not economic because of high urban costs.
    This means that the cities can have violent urban civil unrest without seriously affecting the rest of the country, and that is what I would expect to see more of. The civil unrest marks the end of political dominance of the cities in the US, and probably in the West, so the dispersal of city populations as cities become uninhabitable will mean the end of democracy. We are already seeing that in the "vote by mail" method advocated by the current Democrats. They see it as a way of inducing a Nov. 2020 succession crisis that they will win, but one of the side effects, making elections no longer democratic, is more important.
    .. There is a variation of this we've already seen this year (2020). That was the barring of "out of state" people "to prevent the spread of COVID-19". Now that the precedent has been set, out of state people (say, from a megacity) could be barred from neighboring States. If the Federal Government and its Judicial Branch continue to discredit themselves, they may not be able to prevent barring urban refugees. They certainly did rule legally against the "sanctuary cities", which fit the definition of cities in partial secession, although they did rule against States trying to prevent foreigners from criminally residing in the US. Barring urban refuges could lead to a weak version of secession. Why bar urban refugees? Look what happened to Virginia thanks to overflow from the DC area.

    * Peaceful succession (after 2020/08), but not successful: 5%. We've already had this on a local symbolic level (the Autonomous Zones and the Sanctuary Cities / States), but, other than a possible succession by the Republic of Texas, full succession doesn't seem feasible. Southern California might try to join Mexico on ethnic grounds, but then it and its water supply would be in different nations (***). The basic problem with succession is that the urban regions have lost their economic base, and are surrounded by a hinterland that the urban regions have very badly hurt. Rural suicide rate among Whites is considerably above national average, largely because of urban appropriation of resources and urban micromanagement of society. Further, the members of the BIPOC (****) coalition that the Democrats formed are in active civil war against each other and against their leadership. The loss of political unity between urban areas and their hinterlands destroys the autarky that is necessary for secession, and the BIPOC internal conflict worsens that problem. Succession may be attempted again, and won't be successful.
    In the long term, the US might formally split up along cultural lines in the hinterlands (see: Woodward, _American Nations_, but that would be at least 50 years away, and would more likely be in the form of regional governments.

    * Civil War with commitments on the Army level (*****) 5%. The problem here is that the US might not be left alone to solve its problems. if DoD forces have become ineffective through, say, a logistics/supply/payroll failure, or perhaps a legal ruling or a simple policy of neutrality, then one side or another (or somebody trying to play the role of spokesperson for universal morality might invite in "peace keeping" or even "peace enforcement" forces, and some rather foolish government with domestic problems to distract from might actually respond. That could escalate quickly.


    So, what's your plan?

    Let me emphasize that the best individual / organizational plan for such a future is (IMHO) one that is rugged, that is, has an acceptable outcome for, say, 95% of possible outcome. In games theory, that's the "minimize regret" strategy. You can assume continued decline of urban areas, of all national currencies, and (in general) of the Westphalian State. The trends noted in van Creveld's 1996 article (******) have continued unabated, and will probably continue to do so. Move to a non-urban area, expect supply shortages, expect criminal activity to include home invasion by urban refugees. Follow professional advice for a secure home (Google: "secure home"). See local Sheriff's department for support of possible Neighborhood Watch. Take professional firearms instruction (Google it for your area), consider buying light body armor to protect from random gunfire (see: www.bullteproofme.com for a primer). Above all, get a source of income you can depend upon. COVID-19 has put something like 30% of the US population out of work, caused a 30% or so drop in GDP, motivated considerable governmental intervention in the markets, and may well result in a considerable drop in economic activity. Get a source of income you can depend upon if you possibly can.


    **A look into the millstone -- very speculative.:
    I suspect that the world will, after the usual three decade transition, enter a phase of distributed industrialization in the former urban hinterlands. The national power this will produce won't be enough to support significant expeditionary forces (like those of WW II), and the parts of the world that do not wish to become industrialized (such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, and the Congo) will not have to become industrialized, yet will not be able to destroy the industrialized areas. This restriction of the territory available to the industrialized world will introduce severe resource restrictions. Support attempts, such as those of Space-X and deep sea mining (/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_sea_mining), to expand access to resources that are not claimed by non-industrial societies.
    ** end of looking into millstone




    *) The Left also identified the Kondratiev Summer of the late 1960s as in a "pre-revolutionary state", so don't take the identification seriously beyond realizing that the Left is trying (as it was in the 1960s) to foment revolution.

    **) Copley, _Uncivilization_, 2012/10/22

    ***) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_in_California

    ****) BIPOC: Black, Indigenous, and People of Color -- term used in the Northwest. Indicates the current"rainbow coalition" in order of intersectional priority.

    *****) Here I'm using "Army" in the sense of a military organization that represents one side in one "theater of war". A "theater of war" is a geographic area within which military maneuvers are fairly straightforward, and are bounded by areas within which such maneuvers are not simple. Typical boundaries for infantry/armor armies are seas, mountains, and sometimes rivers.

    ******) von Creveld, _Parameters_ Vol 29, 1996.
    to read article, search Google Scholar or use this link:
    https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=ZtlLAQAAMAAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PA4&dq=van+Creveld+++%22the+fate+of+the+state%22,+Parameters&ots=6DZFpKhyHk&sig=52p_eo09jAL0yBLAycovHSqaMj0#v=onepage&q=van%20Creveld%20%20%20%22the%20fate%20of%20the%20state%22%2C%20Parameters&f=false
  56. What exactly are the Democrats thinking? Do they assume all this rioting and looting is just part of their plot to depose Trump, so as soon as he is gone, the rioters and looters will go home?

    Yes, they really believe that. Remember when the anti-war Left was in the streets protesting Bush’s invasion of Iraq? They disappeared as soon as Obama was inaugurated, and not a peep was heard when he ramped up the war in Afghanistan and got 2,500 troops killed. No riots over the Libyan or Syrian actions, either.

    Leftist riots against Republicans have been a Democrat political tactic for fifty years.

  57. anon[571] • Disclaimer says:

    What exactly are the Democrats thinking? Do they assume all this rioting and looting is just part of their plot to depose Trump, so as soon as he is gone, the rioters and looters will go home?

    Don’t be a goof, Steve. They expect that, once Biden is in power, he’ll go down to where the rioters are with a length of chain, and he’ll look them in the eye, and he’ll say “First of all, when I tell you to stop destroying the Tesla dealership, you stop destroying the Tesla dealership, and I’ll kick you out again, but the cops shouldn’t have shot back at that black guy who shot at them, and I apologize for that. I apologize.”.

    And they’ll be so amazed at his apology that they’ll just go away.

    • LOL: SimpleSong
  58. Lori Lightfoot is in a competition with De Blasio for the title of most hated and incompetent mayor in America. Considering that De Blasio had a big head start on her, she’s doing an excellent job of closing up fast in the short time she’s held office.

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
  59. @Jim Christian
    Where'd ya find it, Steve? Chicago Trib and Second City Cop aren't talking (yet). Must be an extremely late-night/early morning 'event'?

    Replies: @Alden, @lysias, @kikz, @Jane Plain, @36 ulster, @Grace Jones

    Daily Mail is reporting it.

    • Thanks: Morton's toes
  60. @Stonewall Jackson
    I wonder if the Democrats can put this lunacy back in the bottle once Biden wins. I guess the Soros money for this will dry up, but still, they have voting blocks that are pretty unruly and rioted when even Obama was in office. Baltimore's experience was pretty much what you have seen here. It hasn't participated in the current hysteria because there is nothing left to loot in the dangerous black neighborhoods... and as one city council candidate said ... take that shit to Towson, we need what's left of our businesses here..

    Replies: @bomag, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @AnotherDad, @jon, @Negrolphin Pool

    I wonder if the Democrats can put this lunacy back in the bottle once Biden wins.

    Was it ever in the bottle? Even in relatively quiet times, Black areas tend towards a low level riot.

  61. anon[146] • Disclaimer says:

    NYT: Blacks got trolled by Russians, that’s why Hillary lost

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfBeU0mXYAA37pG.jpg:small

    New York Times reporter Nicole Perlroth has finally gotten to the bottom of why black Americans didn’t get excited about Hillary Clinton’s 2016 candidacy for president: Russian trolls.

    “We don’t talk about this enough, and it has been lost in the 2016 election hot takes,” Perlroth said Sunday on Twitter. “While 2016 saw record turnout, it also saw record decline in black voter turnout – the biggest decline in 20 years. Blacks were the number one demographic Russian trolls targeted on social media. (RT)

    Previously in the NYT…

    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @anon

    Luftmensch Perlroth just pulls a brand new lie out of the Air to suit her purposes.

  62. @Peter Johnson
    Twitter has not censored it yet, so if you type "Chicago looting" into the Twitter search bar, lots of tweets with photos appear. If you type "Chicago looting" into the New York Times search bar, you are assured that no such event has happened since no entries exist for it.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Mark G., @Jack D

    • Replies: @Peter Johnson
    @Jack D

    Eventually, even the New York Times had to allow the Reuters feed to appear, but they did their best to delay and downplay the story. Later they published a short article on it with a New York Times byline, with very carefully curated pictures showing nothing of interest. Can you see the carefully managed spin they put on this?

  63. @Andrew M
    TV news channels are showing anti-government protests in Lebanon, following the big blast last week. With their faces covered up and weapons slung over their shoulders, it looks just like Portland or Seattle last month, albeit with more pushback from the authorities.

    Here’s a typical newsreel: https://youtu.be/g56Wdj54ywk

    Replies: @El Dato

    The US left no breathing space between the blast and the announcement that “people yearn to break free” and “someone must go” (complete with Twitter applause by various individuals, I reckon these are sockpuppets or Lebanese can remember 2006 when someone had to go and the subsequent birth pangs of a New Middle East turned out to be tremendous)

    A color revolution is coming to ease out Hezbollah.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @El Dato

    I don’t know if Hezbollah has changed in the last couple of decades, but the old Hezbollah was not the kind of organization anyone is going to ease out. Easing them out would have worked as well as easing the Red Army out of Stalingrad. The whole Israeli military tried to drive Hezbollah out with a frontal attack and failed. That old Hezbollah would have to have degraded quite a bit if they are now in an “ease-outable” condition.

    Replies: @Whiskey

  64. @Anonymous
    See Nypaul, A Bend in the River. Describes the breakdown of a Central African country after the Whites left. It has a surprising resemblance to recent/current events in the West.

    The Western cities lost their economic function back in the 1950s, were bankrupt during the 1960s, the current system of urban support was made law with the Civil Rights Act (1964) and the Immigration Act (1965) of the Hippie Revolution era, Federal support became significant in about 1970, cities brought in foreigners selected for their inability to be productive in an industrial economy to keep up their number of representatives/political power as their previous populations left to find jobs outside the cities, and cities deteriorated after the entire political financing strategy of the 1960s was proved unworkable in 2008. By 2020 the cities were in active revolt, blocking Federal authority and unable to maintain civil peace inside city limits.

    Naipaul pointed out in Bend that when government becomes irrelevant, and a governing elite is about to be replaced by another, people know it. They (both people in authority and the general population) grab what they can in preparation for bad times ahead. Cities don't have enough money to (a) prevent blackouts (b) police themselves (c) support the economically unproductive foreigners (and natives) within their borders. The strategy whereby cities governed themselves has failed, and there is no money to restore it. Even the rather fatuous Mayor of Portland finally realized this and is now trying to drop his previous supporting coalition of radicals and rule by force. He can try because Portland did not import many economically unproductive people, but his success seems unlikely -- too big a change, the new coalition he's trying to organize won't form quickly enough.

    The Democrats have used COVID-19 to, among other things, set up a succession crisis after the 2019 Presidential elections. The Democrats are the urban coalition, and the cities desperately need money. Politicians and managers have a bad tendency to think that, if only they had complete information and control, they could make things work. As a researcher in automated systems and the application of systems thinking to human organizations, I can say that the managers/politicians are wrong. It is their lack of complete control that permits the system they manage to function at all. Many processes need rapid response to local conditions. A system of complete control by managers/politicians means delayed decisions made without adequate information or familiarity with time critical processes. In other words, Maoist/Stalinist/USSR/UK/US catastrophes. Free nations really do better than authoritarian nations, provided that the free nations have populations that want to produce rather than take. That's right out of Locke and history both. Therefore: A succession crisis followed by an urban dominated government will be unable to glean enough resources to make urban areas governable.

    Looks like we're in for a rough ride, starting with the 2020 US elections / succession crisis. I suspect that it will later be seen as no worse than the re-organization of the USSR into the RF -- an unusually rough Kondratiev Winter (*), no more. After that, yet another cycle of economic expansion, this one probably based on the new capabilities of present day startup startup firms. With any luck this K Winter won't even have another world war. It appears that the cycle of urban dominance we've just been through (**) has destroyed the autarky that the various empires needed to fight World War I and II. And, of course, nuclear weapons make central wars (***) very dangerous indeed.



    *) https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/economics/kondratieff-wave/

    **) Copley, Uncivilization

    ***) A "central war" is one in which the losing coalition is occupied and its government dictated by the winners. WW II is an obvious example, but so was the US invasion of Iraq. Herman Kahn pointed out in Thinking about the Unthinkable that central wars are infeasible when both the participant alliances have nuclear weapons and delivery systems, as nuclear armed losers might well decide to bring the victors down with them.

    Replies: @Johnny Pranke, @PiltdownMan, @Bugg, @jimmyriddle, @Cloudbuster

    I second that recommendation. V.S. Naipaul’s A Bend in the River is a clear-eyed novel, and very apropos.

    https://booksjar.com/pdf-epub-a-bend-in-the-river-download/

    • Thanks: Neuday, Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @36 ulster
    @PiltdownMan

    S' truth. I'd been a Naipaul fan for some time. Whether I agreed with him or not, I always looked forward to reading articles by him, about him, or when he appeared on radio talk shows hosted by the likesof Chicago's (late) Milt Rosenberg. A Bend in the River is a favorite of mine.

    , @International Jew
    @PiltdownMan

    I third that recommendation.

    Americans will recognize a familiar situation: Indian shopkeepers relying on European protection against Africans.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  65. They used to hang horse thieves in the old west. Not because hanging is an appropriate punishment for theft, but because they wanted to discourage the stealing of horses.

    We need to adopt that mentality in 2020.

    • Replies: @Flip
    @Spud Boy

    Shooting looters used to be the standard protocol.

  66. Is this all part of a plot to get Blompf out of office? Or is this due to the fact that Blompf’s totally destroyed his credibility with his coronavirus response, so the Left realizes it can get away with this idiocy?

    https://scontent.fapa1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/s720x720/28235620_1692718384121798_7542366155158893343_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=cVssd8J9Da4AX9MF9pt&_nc_ht=scontent.fapa1-2.fna&_nc_tp=7&oh=8ee49b99f38e6ae1e0378fd8063e7686&oe=5F57B5FC

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon, Redman
  67. @Jim Christian
    Where'd ya find it, Steve? Chicago Trib and Second City Cop aren't talking (yet). Must be an extremely late-night/early morning 'event'?

    Replies: @Alden, @lysias, @kikz, @Jane Plain, @36 ulster, @Grace Jones

    Gatewaypundit, and Informationliberation both covered it….. some comments did mention that the local “ChiraqTrib” had a complete blackout of events last night…

  68. @anon
    Kamala Harris died:

    https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1292619169431658496

    Replies: @Henry's Cat, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @Reg Cæsar, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @Duke84

    Biden’s plan for racial reconciliation involves loudspeakers proclaiming ‘Can’t we all just get along?’ To which the looters will pause long enough to reply, ‘We are all getting along with your stuff.’

  69. @Thoughts
    Why am I not there!

    Think of the purses....oh the purses!!!!

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @kikz

    best comment on the chiraq looting…. nothing says justice quite like a louis vuitton…

  70. @James Speaks
    blacks loot White stores b/c White-bad and black-good. For amusement, try to explain to one that looting is the wholesale abuse of another’s rights just as slavery was the wholesale abuse of Africans’ rights, and I believe the response you would receive is some variation of “You crazy.”

    Until blacks learn moral reasoning in the abstract (never) they will remain unsuited to live in white society.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Anon7, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Neuday

    Looking at these videos, I see what appears to be white hands wielding axes and breaking windows, as well as “rioters” or “looters” dressed head to toe in black with gas masks and helmets. Antifa?

    In the case of what are obviously unprepared black looters, smh. So much for free K-12 schooling, free lunches, welfare. You’re welcome.

    The only way we’ll ever know anything is to have a massive police or troop presence surrounding an area, moving in to arrest everyone on the street. Then, sort them out.

    Are any of them nearby residents? Where do they come from? Black looters, white antifa? Are any of them paid or subsidized to be there? American citizens? We can’t know until we test.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Anon7

    You're bound to find policemen and FBI agents in the lot.

  71. I wonder if Frankie would still consider Chicago to be his kind of town?

  72. anon[571] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m waiting for Michael Tracey to wake up, so he can explain to us how, while these Chicago riots are bad, they’re actually really a bunch of white antifa attacking poor immigrants.

    To be fair to him, I think I understand why he does this. He still has some credibility within liberal circles, and he doesn’t want to throw it all away by telling the actual truth. He knows that his friends just wouldn’t listen to him at all if he actually told the whole story. But it’s still annoying.

  73. They have no intention of stopping this. the rioting and looting is planned, not spontaneous. Understand it is coordinated by the Dems. The future of the Dems is Ilhan Omar, AOC, Tlaib, and Keith Ellison, not Pelosi and Biden. The future is Get Whitey. Send him to the gulag If you can’t just yet, send in the stormtroopers to remind them to be afraid forever and to grovel more.

    • Agree: El Dato
  74. The crazy thing is this story is nowhere to be found on the front page of CNN or NYT websites. CNN has a story a out a bunch of white dudes being slammed by the Chicago mayor for going to the beach.

  75. Yesterday was the sixth anniversary of GENTILIVUS GIANTIVUS purloining his ultimate cigarillo. Predictably:

    https://www.kmov.com/news/4-arrested-after-protesters-clash-with-ferguson-officers-outside-of-police-station/article_c6c80748-daf0-11ea-96fe-d3a0ce7846f0.html

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @countenance

    You mean, Biden bets his Negro Chips on the Blackjack table?

    https://twitter.com/BuckSexton/status/1292585400695955457

    Replies: @El Dato

  76. No one reported how organized and destructive the Mpls “riots” were, either. Nothing spontaneous happened in Mpls. And no mainstream media reported on the extent of the terror in Portland. Except Antifa’s streams on youtube, which you can go watch: Unicorn Riot. They were armed attacks, insurgency. They were deliberate shows of terror. Night after night, people mobbed up first w marching to close roadsz stop traffic, stop feeeways, then picked up the pallets of arms stored throughout the neighborhood by day– bricks, frozen water bottles, and other weapons to attack cops, then push them back to loot. Once looted, then came the accelerants–they would calmly destroy doors and windows, pour or set off accelerants, pre purchased, pre made, sophisticated devices , and move on to the next business.

  77. All those brands need VPs of LIED (Looting, Inclusion, Equity and Diversity).

  78. OT but of iSteve interest. Maybe this is old news, but I just noticed (via a link in Razib’s recent Open Thread) that the Washington Post seems to be reverentially capitalizing both Black and White in at least some articles.

    • Replies: @Charlotte
    @jb

    Yes, they made an announcement about that. For the moment, at least, both are being capitalized.

  79. @anon
    Kamala Harris died:

    https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1292619169431658496

    Replies: @Henry's Cat, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @Reg Cæsar, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @Duke84

    Cause of death: white wrestler knelt on his neck? https://www.takimag.com/article/george-floyd-the-big-lie/

  80. On the subject of looting…….

    It’s Time to End the Inflated Pension Payments Robbing Illinois Taxpayers

    https://indefenseofliberty.blog/2019/07/22/its-time-to-end-the-inflated-pension-payments-robbing-illinois-taxpayers/

  81. @The Alarmist
    Well ... yeah. I guess this is the New Normal, but are they at least wearing masks?

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @JimDandy, @anon, @Buck Ransom

    Do the defunded police have any description of the perps we may use to defend ourselves? Bueller?

  82. @Dave Pinsen
    Dems are playing with fire. Blue cities are in a downward spiral now of rising crime and shrinking tax bases. How many of the stores getting looted now in Chicago were looted earlier this summer? How many will risk reopening to get looted again?

    If Biden wins, Dems in Congress can pass a multi-trillion dollar bailout of the states, and Biden will sign it. Maybe they can limp along in that case with high crime but avoid fiscal disaster like Koch-era New York.

    If Trump wins, he will have the blue cities and states over a barrel, and be able to make demands about law enforcement (including immigration enforcement) in return for bailing them out.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt, @Harry Baldwin, @Mr. Anon, @AnotherDad, @MBlanc46

    Dems are playing with fire. Blue cities are in a downward spiral now of rising crime and shrinking tax bases.

    Maybe not. Perhaps the strategy is to destroy the cities so that their residents go out into Congressional districts where gerrymandering has preserved a 55/45 Republican advantage, while the numbers racked up by Democrats in cities are regularly in the 90% range.

    CA, IL,NY were NEVER going to give Trump their electoral votes. So maybe the strategy is to send the voters to other states like PA, FL, AZ where they can tip?

    • Agree: Thoughts
    • Replies: @Jesse
    @TomSchmidt

    You may be overestimating their savvy, although I do agree that they'll find a way to turn it to their advantage. A lot depends on whether they and their descendants decide that city living is worth fighting for.

    A lot also depends on whether they want to export their votes/values, or specifically their Blacks. And on what the plan is on keeping/doing without their respectable tax base.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

    , @Polynikes
    @TomSchmidt

    You think the Senate is gerrymandered? Interesting concept, I suppose.

  83. If Biden is elected, the media will cool it with the coverage of innocent black men murdered by red neck cops for at least a year. If they need to boost black turnout for the 2022 and 2024 elections, coverage will spike again.

  84. @Anonymous
    See Nypaul, A Bend in the River. Describes the breakdown of a Central African country after the Whites left. It has a surprising resemblance to recent/current events in the West.

    The Western cities lost their economic function back in the 1950s, were bankrupt during the 1960s, the current system of urban support was made law with the Civil Rights Act (1964) and the Immigration Act (1965) of the Hippie Revolution era, Federal support became significant in about 1970, cities brought in foreigners selected for their inability to be productive in an industrial economy to keep up their number of representatives/political power as their previous populations left to find jobs outside the cities, and cities deteriorated after the entire political financing strategy of the 1960s was proved unworkable in 2008. By 2020 the cities were in active revolt, blocking Federal authority and unable to maintain civil peace inside city limits.

    Naipaul pointed out in Bend that when government becomes irrelevant, and a governing elite is about to be replaced by another, people know it. They (both people in authority and the general population) grab what they can in preparation for bad times ahead. Cities don't have enough money to (a) prevent blackouts (b) police themselves (c) support the economically unproductive foreigners (and natives) within their borders. The strategy whereby cities governed themselves has failed, and there is no money to restore it. Even the rather fatuous Mayor of Portland finally realized this and is now trying to drop his previous supporting coalition of radicals and rule by force. He can try because Portland did not import many economically unproductive people, but his success seems unlikely -- too big a change, the new coalition he's trying to organize won't form quickly enough.

    The Democrats have used COVID-19 to, among other things, set up a succession crisis after the 2019 Presidential elections. The Democrats are the urban coalition, and the cities desperately need money. Politicians and managers have a bad tendency to think that, if only they had complete information and control, they could make things work. As a researcher in automated systems and the application of systems thinking to human organizations, I can say that the managers/politicians are wrong. It is their lack of complete control that permits the system they manage to function at all. Many processes need rapid response to local conditions. A system of complete control by managers/politicians means delayed decisions made without adequate information or familiarity with time critical processes. In other words, Maoist/Stalinist/USSR/UK/US catastrophes. Free nations really do better than authoritarian nations, provided that the free nations have populations that want to produce rather than take. That's right out of Locke and history both. Therefore: A succession crisis followed by an urban dominated government will be unable to glean enough resources to make urban areas governable.

    Looks like we're in for a rough ride, starting with the 2020 US elections / succession crisis. I suspect that it will later be seen as no worse than the re-organization of the USSR into the RF -- an unusually rough Kondratiev Winter (*), no more. After that, yet another cycle of economic expansion, this one probably based on the new capabilities of present day startup startup firms. With any luck this K Winter won't even have another world war. It appears that the cycle of urban dominance we've just been through (**) has destroyed the autarky that the various empires needed to fight World War I and II. And, of course, nuclear weapons make central wars (***) very dangerous indeed.



    *) https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/economics/kondratieff-wave/

    **) Copley, Uncivilization

    ***) A "central war" is one in which the losing coalition is occupied and its government dictated by the winners. WW II is an obvious example, but so was the US invasion of Iraq. Herman Kahn pointed out in Thinking about the Unthinkable that central wars are infeasible when both the participant alliances have nuclear weapons and delivery systems, as nuclear armed losers might well decide to bring the victors down with them.

    Replies: @Johnny Pranke, @PiltdownMan, @Bugg, @jimmyriddle, @Cloudbuster

    Big Picture-business had brought me into Wall Street area and midtown Manhattan. It’s a ghost town; plywood boards cover storefronts and building entrances. Nothing is open-roll down gate, next to “for lease” signs, over and over. Bums are everywhere. Not sure the Dems grasp somebody has to pay for their welfare state, and off COVID social distance and remote work, that kind of business is now going to avoid The Suck and it’s taxation.

  85. @El Dato
    Meanwhile, taking personal interest in your whereabouts and deploying the Junior Social Distancing League

    https://i.postimg.cc/YSzTLqPR/Chicago-at-2020-08-10-09-15-UTC.png

    https://postimg.cc/KK40dFx3

    Replies: @mmack, @36 ulster, @Piglet

  86. @ic1000
    The Local TV News has been on in the background for about an hour, here in Rust Belt City at 6:45am local time. This morning's glancing view of national/international developments: USPS delays, the 2020 Census, Beirut aftermath, Facebook fosters Social Justice, Trump/unemployment, student loans.

    Nothing of interest happened in Chicago overnight, at least not until the Today Show narrative, coming to a telescreen near you in 15 minutes.

    Edit: "20 Shot Near US Capitol"? Also didn't happen.

    Replies: @mmack

    Capital City news in Flatlandia, USA had a story on the Chicago looti, I mean, “Mostly Peaceful Protests” in Chicago this morning. Made it a point to mention it was because of a “Police Shooting”.

  87. Why is there a naive assumption that democrats want to ever bottle this back up? Hasnt it ever been more clear that their goal is the destruction of our country? This is not hyperbole

    • Agree: Alice
    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
    @Testing12

    The vibrant individuals now at play in Chicago and their clones elsewhere simply want USA to stand for: Unother South Africa.

  88. @Dumbo

    Has anybody ever asked Joe Biden what his plan is for why this kind of thing won’t go on throughout his term?
     
    Forget Biden. What's Trump's plan? What is he doing about it? Yeah yeah, "blue cities", but this has been happening nationwide, with not many repercussions so far.

    Replies: @LRFD, @Harry Baldwin, @John Johnson

    Honestly, I think that Trump tried to send in troops to DC during the worst of the June riots. I suspect that his generals told him, “No”. His options are now limited to various DHS personnel that don’t have the authority, numbers, firepower, and rules of engagement needed shutdown the criminal class emboldened by the political class. There’s no opposing force to stop the riots in blue cities of blue states, and there’s little hope of relief short of a Deus Ex Machina event like the bikers in Sturgis self-organizing to take back Chicago.

    The riots won’t stop without an overwhelming show of force and corresponding show of will. Neither Trump nor Biden have the resources or support to do this. Biden also lacks the inclination. (That is, his handlers lack the inclination.) Things will get worse. The center will not hold. There will be rivers of blood before the end. Pray.

  89. If the looting and rioting were harmful to Trump the media would be covering the violence on television and the NYTimes would have headline stories with photographs showing the looting.

    The rioting and looting will continue until the CV lockdowns end. The left wants to keep the lockdowns going until the elections to ensure the economy falls into a depression which will help the democrats win congress and defeat Trump.

    The media is still more focused on frightening Americans about coronavirus , and attacking whites who are not wearing masks.

    The looting and rioting are just some of the negative results resulting from the lockdowns. Economic destruction from the lockdowns is orders of magnitude worse for Americans than the loss of property from the vandals. The mental health of Americans is being harmed more by the lockdowns. The mental and physical development of our children is being stymied by the lockdown. This will have far greater consequences for our future than the looting of some oligarch stores.

    • Agree: TomSchmidt
  90. TFW a 60 year old jewish woman (Amy Wax) is more based than you

  91. @TomSchmidt
    @Dave Pinsen

    Dems are playing with fire. Blue cities are in a downward spiral now of rising crime and shrinking tax bases.

    Maybe not. Perhaps the strategy is to destroy the cities so that their residents go out into Congressional districts where gerrymandering has preserved a 55/45 Republican advantage, while the numbers racked up by Democrats in cities are regularly in the 90% range.

    CA, IL,NY were NEVER going to give Trump their electoral votes. So maybe the strategy is to send the voters to other states like PA, FL, AZ where they can tip?

    Replies: @Jesse, @Polynikes

    You may be overestimating their savvy, although I do agree that they’ll find a way to turn it to their advantage. A lot depends on whether they and their descendants decide that city living is worth fighting for.

    A lot also depends on whether they want to export their votes/values, or specifically their Blacks. And on what the plan is on keeping/doing without their respectable tax base.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    @Jesse

    Yeah, who knows? I've kidded my wife that BLM must be a Republican operation given how toxic they are to Democratic chances, as in 2014 and 2016 (Soros and Bloomberg directly funded Congressional campaigns in 2018 instead), but that assumes the R's know what they're doing.

    I read recently that wealth in the NYC area dropped by something like 400Bln as a result of COVID. As with blockbusting, the first ones to sell are the lucky ones.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

  92. I don’t think it is strategy, on the Dem/lib side anyway. Ted Wheeler & Kate Brown got on the “arson is bad” wagon eventually. Social-mobbing-bragging technology makes this sort of thing possible wherever there is stuff to steal, by the same token enables the law to clamp down definitively, after some initial phase of adjustment. Hegelian dialectic. Jackie Lacey’s husband was hit with misdemeanor weapon charges after being peacefully ambushed at their home by some peaceful villagers. That is fundamentally unstable as an election-winning strategy.

  93. Mayor Tanglefoot is expounding at a live presser right now. The chief of police just talked real tough about how the CPD was not going to allow attacks on cops or Chicago businesses. The Mayor is now explaining how this latest expression of Black urban sports was not legitimate 1st Amendment protesting or poor folks taking stuff so they could feed their families. Some alderman is speaking now reminding us Chicago is still a world class city. Wonder of wonders, He just called the participants “looters.”

    Some walking advert for birth control shoots at cops in Englewood. Cops return fire wounding the poor, oppressed black man. Other oppressed POC organize road trip to downtown Chicago. CPD caught wind of this, attempted to deploy officers but were not in time.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Enemy of Earth


    Some alderman is speaking now reminding us Chicago is still a world class city. Wonder of wonders, He just called the participants “looters.”
     
    Brendan Reilly, Near North Side, I bet.

    Replies: @LMD

  94. I got a little push back the other day, but this is totally on the democrats.Their cities, their voting bloc’s spawn. Tax base is being trashed and looted. pretty soon you run out of plate glass, then plywood and the stores will be abandoned. Insurance rates will make it unprofitable to stock your shelves. Tourist and convention dollars are disappearing, property owners are almost maxed out and then where do they go to fund their budget. This shit would stop if one dem city told their teachers pay cuts were coming because the tax base is shrinking.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Buffalo Joe


    This shit would stop if one dem city told their teachers pay cuts were coming because the tax base is shrinking.
     
    That's not the plan. Pelosi has already decided to send trillions in Federal $ to the cities. For now, the Senate and Trump are not going along but after January there's a good chance that it will all be Dem controlled. Who needs a tax base if the Federal Reserve can just print up $? We are in a deflationary environment anyway so no one notices that printing $ is inflationary.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Dave Pinsen, @MBlanc46

    , @TomSchmidt
    @Buffalo Joe

    This shit would stop if one dem city told their teachers pay cuts were coming because the tax base is shrinking.

    Why go after the working class?

    https://nypost.com/2020/04/29/in-nycs-coronavirus-budget-crunch-cut-schools-bureaucracy-first/


    Mayor Bill de Blasio’s budget cuts $200 million-plus from schools, yet leaves the system’s bureaucracy at $125 million above the 2014 level. Under two chancellors, the de Blasio era has seen an ever-growing central staff of allies, cronies and consultants — with the non-classroom bureaucracy up a whopping 46 percent. ...
    he added a whole new layer of central bureaucracy: nine executive superintendents earning $200,000 salaries. And some 56 specialists assigned to the little-known or understood Academic Response Teams — costing taxpayers close to $10 million a year to “coach” school staffs where test scores are lagging.

    Treyger (D-Brooklyn), a former teacher, wants to know why spending on central staff, borough administrators and support personnel mushroomed from $489 million to $734 million over seven years. “If you’re not working in a school each day, if you’re working in a field office, you’re not providing a direct service to students,” he fumes.
     

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  95. @anon
    Kamala Harris died:

    https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1292619169431658496

    Replies: @Henry's Cat, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @Reg Cæsar, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @Duke84

    Kamala Harris died:

    Does that mean it’ll be Susan Rice on the ticket?

    • LOL: 36 ulster
    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Reg Cæsar



    Kamala Harris died:
     
    Does that mean it’ll be Susan Rice on the ticket?
     
    https://theplantain.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2018/05/Undertaker-President.jpg
    , @Ron Mexico
    @Reg Cæsar

    Joe will probably think the CA Senator has died. No one tell him.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  96. @Buffalo Joe
    I got a little push back the other day, but this is totally on the democrats.Their cities, their voting bloc's spawn. Tax base is being trashed and looted. pretty soon you run out of plate glass, then plywood and the stores will be abandoned. Insurance rates will make it unprofitable to stock your shelves. Tourist and convention dollars are disappearing, property owners are almost maxed out and then where do they go to fund their budget. This shit would stop if one dem city told their teachers pay cuts were coming because the tax base is shrinking.

    Replies: @Jack D, @TomSchmidt

    This shit would stop if one dem city told their teachers pay cuts were coming because the tax base is shrinking.

    That’s not the plan. Pelosi has already decided to send trillions in Federal $ to the cities. For now, the Senate and Trump are not going along but after January there’s a good chance that it will all be Dem controlled. Who needs a tax base if the Federal Reserve can just print up $? We are in a deflationary environment anyway so no one notices that printing $ is inflationary.

    • Agree: Jus' Sayin'...
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Jack D

    Jack, digusting and borderline criminal to let the cities be trashed so they can stay or assume power. Did mention today I loathe Andrew Cuomo?

    , @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    That’s not the plan. Pelosi has already decided to send trillions in Federal $ to the cities. For now, the Senate and Trump are not going along but after January there’s a good chance that it will all be Dem controlled. Who needs a tax base if the Federal Reserve can just print up $? We are in a deflationary environment anyway so no one notices that printing $ is inflationary.
     
    Exactly. Spot on Jack.

    The plan is to piss away America's good will, the Dollar's status as world's reserve currency or children's future ... to bail out the Democrats' destruction and incompetence.

    Trump, Republicans need to fight this tooth and nail.

    Insist that all the federal relief money goes to the people.

    Make Democrat states and cities tax it from them if they want to spend it.

    The Democrats want to break the connection between good governance, taxes, quality of life. Essentially bail out people who elect spendthrift, incompetent, and rule-of-law destroying Democrats.

    Republicans need to learn about this thing called "politics". This is a hill to fight and die on. If Republicans don't fight, they'll die.

    Replies: @hhsiii, @Ben tillman

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Jack D


    "...We are in a deflationary environment anyway..."
     
    The words "deflation" and "inflation" have very different meanings for our ruling class and the rest of us. I and almost everyone I know sense that we are in an inflationary environment because the prices of food, clothing, rent, utilities, etc., are rising much more rapidly than our incomes for at least the last decade and the divergence is increasing. Our rulers worry about what they call deflation, which is basically nothing more than a diminution of their ability to batten off the economy by robbing the rest of us.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    @Jack D

    If Biden wins, the Dems will be test driving MMT like David Crosby test drove his new liver.

    , @MBlanc46
    @Jack D

    I’ve used up my meager allotment of Agrees, Jack, so I’ll have to type Agree.

  97. @The Alarmist
    @Clyde

    The only thing about Chicago on Drudge at the moment is something about using social media to track quaranine violators. Is that what they're called nowadays?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The only thing about Chicago on Drudge at the moment…

    Do you ever get the feeling Drudge’s editorial decisions are influenced by whoever is his latest boyfriend?

    • Thanks: The Alarmist
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Reg Cæsar

    It appears that Drudge's earlier, and better news-reporting phase was being made by a smart editor who has since quit, and the new hire is a leftist bozo. I doubt Drudge ever really bothered putting much of his own work into his website, except for the celebrity gossip (always an obsession with gay guys), and the news section is something he ignores because he doesn't really understand or care about politics. Gay guys don't really 'get' politics. It's like very advanced math to them.

  98. @Jim Christian
    Where'd ya find it, Steve? Chicago Trib and Second City Cop aren't talking (yet). Must be an extremely late-night/early morning 'event'?

    Replies: @Alden, @lysias, @kikz, @Jane Plain, @36 ulster, @Grace Jones

    It’s all over Twitter. Lightfoot gave a press conference. 2nd City cop has been tweeting for hours.

  99. @countenance
    Yesterday was the sixth anniversary of GENTILIVUS GIANTIVUS purloining his ultimate cigarillo. Predictably:

    https://www.kmov.com/news/4-arrested-after-protesters-clash-with-ferguson-officers-outside-of-police-station/article_c6c80748-daf0-11ea-96fe-d3a0ce7846f0.html

    Replies: @El Dato

    You mean, Biden bets his Negro Chips on the Blackjack table?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @El Dato

    Extremely Deep Dives by the Guardian from back then

    Discrimination in Ferguson: full extent of police bias laid bare in damning report


    Details of seven racist emails sent by senior officials were published in the report. An April 2011 email “depicted President Barack Obama as a chimpanzee”, while an email the following month “included a photo of a bare-chested group of dancing women, apparently in Africa, with the caption, ‘Michelle Obama’s High School Reunion’.”
     

    Ferguson’s population is 67% African American, according to the 2010 census. Yet between 2012 and 2014, 93% of all arrests were of black people and almost nine in 10 uses of force were against African Americans. In all 14 bites by police dogs when racial information of the person bitten was available, that person was African American.
     
    Ferguson report details shocking set of racist emails sent by law enforcement

    A shocking set of racist emails sent by senior Ferguson law enforcement officials depict Barack Obama as a chimpanzee and characterize Michelle Obama as a bare-chested African woman, according to a damning federal investigation into civil rights violations committed by the police force.
     
  100. I know Chicago is burning, but the top story on Drudge comes from Kamala’s old beau:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/willie-brown-kamala-harris-should-say-no-to-vice-presidency/ar-BB17J8hG

    The first line in the article reads as follows:

    Harris is a tested and proven campaigner who will work her backside off to get Biden elected.

    Steve, are you ghost-writing for Willie Brown?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Steve from Detroit

    Harris is a tested and proven campaigner who will work her backside off to get Biden elected.

    If there's anything Willie Brown knows inside and out, it's Kamala's backside.

  101. @notsaying
    I am reading about this at Twitter. It looks like a repeat of New York a few months ago -- looters pulling up in cars, very organized:

    "Watching from my balcony in Rivernorth ... so many feral #Chicago southsiders on the streets but also hundreds of cars letting out lots of people who go running ... they are looting the restaurant across the street. This isn't like a protest riot .. these fuckers are everywhere."

    "Looting at Walgreens on Clark and Ontario. This is organized, many cars pull up at once and looted the store and fled within a few minutes via the back door. At least 30 looters. I bought a sandwich here earlier tonight #ChicagoScanner #Chicago"

    "currently watching Taeshia Rochon of Chicago Illinois robbing and looting in the mall on her Facebook live lol"

    One difference is that these are recent Tweets. This is going on in the middle of the night.

    Replies: @Jane Plain

    It looks like a repeat of New York a few months ago — looters pulling up in cars, very organized:

    Was it so organized in NYC? I don’t think so. This seems way worse.

    • Replies: @notsaying
    @Jane Plain

    I saw a tweet from either a New York News or Post reporter who said law enforcement told him that the New York looting was done by gangs. I saw on internet at the time that was bad and it was multiple Manhattan neighborhoods and some of the cars had out of state plates. Given how many people were involved and the speed and efficiency they cleaned out stores, that makes sense to me. In New York on Twitter a lot of people commented on the expensive cars that were used.

    I am not in New York or Chicago so I am not the expert on this. But I am assuming gangs were primarily responsible for what happened in Chicago too. It is disconcerting to say the least to know there is a reserve Army of people in America who are able and willing to come out with no advance notice and target our biggest stores and suck out everything from the smaller ones. This tells me nobody even knows what is happening in the shadows in our own country. We are all just sitting ducks really. When are we ever going to go after the gangs?

    Replies: @Jane Plain

  102. @Anonymous
    CAN YOU DIG IT????

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    Can You Dig It? – The Warriors (1/8) Movie CLIP (1979) HD

    • LOL: JimDandy
    • Replies: @jimmyriddle
    @MEH 0910

    Thanks. I was puzzled by that reference.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=sGSHIidlesQ

  103. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, Apple is hosting Black women empowerment roundtables for their Apple Music subscribers, featuring successful Black women's tips and tricks for young black women just starting out to reach professional goals.

    Kind of the professional black female version of Jordan Peterson:

    https://twitter.com/sukihanagoat/status/1291778515285749760?s=20

    https://twitter.com/sukihanagoat/status/1291787002560614400?s=20

    Replies: @El Dato, @Clyde, @Saxon, @carol, @Cloudbuster, @Anonymous, @BB753, @Kibernetika

    “Wash your stanky pussy, bucko.”
    -Cardi B

  104. @Reg Cæsar
    @anon


    Kamala Harris died:
     
    Does that mean it'll be Susan Rice on the ticket?

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Ron Mexico

    Kamala Harris died:

    Does that mean it’ll be Susan Rice on the ticket?

  105. Has anybody ever asked Joe Biden what his plan is for why this kind of thing won’t go on throughout his term?

    It will end when the Biden administration tells city police they can use necessary force to stop the riots. The media will not report the inevitable incidents of “excessive force” used by law enforcement. The rioters will get the message and desist, and ordinary Americans will sigh with relief.

    It’s simple, give us what we want and we will let you live in peace.

    How many riots were there in Russia after the Bolsheviks consolidated their power?

  106. @MEH 0910
    @Anonymous

    Can You Dig It? - The Warriors (1/8) Movie CLIP (1979) HD
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTUrWYv2vtU

    Replies: @jimmyriddle

    Thanks. I was puzzled by that reference.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=sGSHIidlesQ

  107. @El Dato
    @countenance

    You mean, Biden bets his Negro Chips on the Blackjack table?

    https://twitter.com/BuckSexton/status/1292585400695955457

    Replies: @El Dato

    Extremely Deep Dives by the Guardian from back then

    Discrimination in Ferguson: full extent of police bias laid bare in damning report

    Details of seven racist emails sent by senior officials were published in the report. An April 2011 email “depicted President Barack Obama as a chimpanzee”, while an email the following month “included a photo of a bare-chested group of dancing women, apparently in Africa, with the caption, ‘Michelle Obama’s High School Reunion’.”

    Ferguson’s population is 67% African American, according to the 2010 census. Yet between 2012 and 2014, 93% of all arrests were of black people and almost nine in 10 uses of force were against African Americans. In all 14 bites by police dogs when racial information of the person bitten was available, that person was African American.

    Ferguson report details shocking set of racist emails sent by law enforcement

    A shocking set of racist emails sent by senior Ferguson law enforcement officials depict Barack Obama as a chimpanzee and characterize Michelle Obama as a bare-chested African woman, according to a damning federal investigation into civil rights violations committed by the police force.

  108. @Anonymous
    See Nypaul, A Bend in the River. Describes the breakdown of a Central African country after the Whites left. It has a surprising resemblance to recent/current events in the West.

    The Western cities lost their economic function back in the 1950s, were bankrupt during the 1960s, the current system of urban support was made law with the Civil Rights Act (1964) and the Immigration Act (1965) of the Hippie Revolution era, Federal support became significant in about 1970, cities brought in foreigners selected for their inability to be productive in an industrial economy to keep up their number of representatives/political power as their previous populations left to find jobs outside the cities, and cities deteriorated after the entire political financing strategy of the 1960s was proved unworkable in 2008. By 2020 the cities were in active revolt, blocking Federal authority and unable to maintain civil peace inside city limits.

    Naipaul pointed out in Bend that when government becomes irrelevant, and a governing elite is about to be replaced by another, people know it. They (both people in authority and the general population) grab what they can in preparation for bad times ahead. Cities don't have enough money to (a) prevent blackouts (b) police themselves (c) support the economically unproductive foreigners (and natives) within their borders. The strategy whereby cities governed themselves has failed, and there is no money to restore it. Even the rather fatuous Mayor of Portland finally realized this and is now trying to drop his previous supporting coalition of radicals and rule by force. He can try because Portland did not import many economically unproductive people, but his success seems unlikely -- too big a change, the new coalition he's trying to organize won't form quickly enough.

    The Democrats have used COVID-19 to, among other things, set up a succession crisis after the 2019 Presidential elections. The Democrats are the urban coalition, and the cities desperately need money. Politicians and managers have a bad tendency to think that, if only they had complete information and control, they could make things work. As a researcher in automated systems and the application of systems thinking to human organizations, I can say that the managers/politicians are wrong. It is their lack of complete control that permits the system they manage to function at all. Many processes need rapid response to local conditions. A system of complete control by managers/politicians means delayed decisions made without adequate information or familiarity with time critical processes. In other words, Maoist/Stalinist/USSR/UK/US catastrophes. Free nations really do better than authoritarian nations, provided that the free nations have populations that want to produce rather than take. That's right out of Locke and history both. Therefore: A succession crisis followed by an urban dominated government will be unable to glean enough resources to make urban areas governable.

    Looks like we're in for a rough ride, starting with the 2020 US elections / succession crisis. I suspect that it will later be seen as no worse than the re-organization of the USSR into the RF -- an unusually rough Kondratiev Winter (*), no more. After that, yet another cycle of economic expansion, this one probably based on the new capabilities of present day startup startup firms. With any luck this K Winter won't even have another world war. It appears that the cycle of urban dominance we've just been through (**) has destroyed the autarky that the various empires needed to fight World War I and II. And, of course, nuclear weapons make central wars (***) very dangerous indeed.



    *) https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/economics/kondratieff-wave/

    **) Copley, Uncivilization

    ***) A "central war" is one in which the losing coalition is occupied and its government dictated by the winners. WW II is an obvious example, but so was the US invasion of Iraq. Herman Kahn pointed out in Thinking about the Unthinkable that central wars are infeasible when both the participant alliances have nuclear weapons and delivery systems, as nuclear armed losers might well decide to bring the victors down with them.

    Replies: @Johnny Pranke, @PiltdownMan, @Bugg, @jimmyriddle, @Cloudbuster

    Ted Wheeler’s opponent in November is this woman – who refuses to condemn arson of occupied buildings:

  109. @Reg Cæsar
    @anon


    Kamala Harris died:
     
    Does that mean it'll be Susan Rice on the ticket?

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Ron Mexico

    Joe will probably think the CA Senator has died. No one tell him.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Ron Mexico


    Joe will probably think the CA Senator has died. No one tell him.
     
    Cross your fingers:



    Kamala Harris would be Biden’s worst pick if he wants to win
  110. @Paleo Liberal
    My guess is these are not disorganized mobs looting the fancy stores, but rather organized gangs taking advantage of the chaos. Same as in NYC when the getaway cars were some very fancy SUVs.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @anon

    Exactly. There’s no way the vibrant locals have access to cars, smartphones, are able to text each other, and know where the luxury stores are. That kind of info/capability is strictly high-level balla only.

    • LOL: Cloudbuster
  111. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:

    I think y’all forget that this is just a few streets.

    I know of a Jewish neighborhood located in a bad area. All the houses on one side of the main drag are owned by Jews and on the other side of the street is apartment slums.

    You never see a break-in on the Jewish side of the street. Ever.

    So no…they will not lose control after the elections.

    • Replies: @Larry, San Francisco
    @Anonymous

    When I lived in Chicago the 3 women of color, who broke into my house and shoved a gun into my yiddishe kop (look it up) during a 3 am home invasion, must not have gotten the message. Maybe my mistake was not putting lamb's blood on the doorposts of my house

  112. The cold didn’t stop the NAGA ( Nigerians Attacking Gay Actors) hat wearing bros from jacking up Jussie Smollet and his subway sandwich.

  113. @James Speaks
    blacks loot White stores b/c White-bad and black-good. For amusement, try to explain to one that looting is the wholesale abuse of another’s rights just as slavery was the wholesale abuse of Africans’ rights, and I believe the response you would receive is some variation of “You crazy.”

    Until blacks learn moral reasoning in the abstract (never) they will remain unsuited to live in white society.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Anon7, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Neuday

    What would whites loot from black stores? Weaves? High end sneakers? Grills, platform shoes, cheap bling?

    Nah. I just can’t imagine it.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    Oh but I can...

    https://youtu.be/zbPvF7LqUjo

  114. @Dave Pinsen
    Dems are playing with fire. Blue cities are in a downward spiral now of rising crime and shrinking tax bases. How many of the stores getting looted now in Chicago were looted earlier this summer? How many will risk reopening to get looted again?

    If Biden wins, Dems in Congress can pass a multi-trillion dollar bailout of the states, and Biden will sign it. Maybe they can limp along in that case with high crime but avoid fiscal disaster like Koch-era New York.

    If Trump wins, he will have the blue cities and states over a barrel, and be able to make demands about law enforcement (including immigration enforcement) in return for bailing them out.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt, @Harry Baldwin, @Mr. Anon, @AnotherDad, @MBlanc46

    Scott Adams has raised an interesting point. In some of the cities that have experienced severe looting and arson, such as Minneapolis, Seattle, and Portland, the mayors have kept the police from taking aggressive action to stop it. So, in the future, how will people who operate businesses in those cities be able to get insurance? How can an insurance company write a policy for a business knowing that if there’s a riot, rioters will be allowed free rein? It seems these cities will have difficulties maintaining business districts.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @Harry Baldwin

    Many policies have provisions that don't pay out under certain circumstances such as a riot. If not, the companies will add riders to the policies to prevent payouts for civil unrest, etc. They will also increase premiums too. Very few companies with business interruption coverage got insurance payouts because of the Covid shutdowns.

    , @Thoughts
    @Harry Baldwin

    Tacit understanding.

    Who owns the insurance companies? Even if they aren't owned by Lord Voldemort, they can still be forced to cover people.

    I think you guys really believe that the U.S. is operating according to Principles.

    Steve Sailer Commentators with their Naive Logical Brains versus Reality

    Reality says, 'Wink Wink'

    Everything is going according to plan. Don't worry businesses, you'll be fine.

    , @anon
    @Harry Baldwin

    They will add limits and sublimits for damage from rioting. Plus larger deductibles. Insurance Companies have extensive experience adjusting coverage and pricing to continue with customers. The last resort is to refuse to underwrite.

  115. Steve, have you done recent research on political science height? The august office of Pennsylvanian Lt. Gov. got trans-statuesque:
    https://archive.triblive.com/news/health-now/john-fetterman-adopts-new-way-of-eating-drops-148-pounds/

    Could the Dems just start nominating heteroflexible WWE stars & win it all?

  116. @Jim Christian
    Where'd ya find it, Steve? Chicago Trib and Second City Cop aren't talking (yet). Must be an extremely late-night/early morning 'event'?

    Replies: @Alden, @lysias, @kikz, @Jane Plain, @36 ulster, @Grace Jones

    It was.

  117. @Dumbo

    Has anybody ever asked Joe Biden what his plan is for why this kind of thing won’t go on throughout his term?
     
    Forget Biden. What's Trump's plan? What is he doing about it? Yeah yeah, "blue cities", but this has been happening nationwide, with not many repercussions so far.

    Replies: @LRFD, @Harry Baldwin, @John Johnson

    What’s Trump’s plan?

    Trump has offered federal law enforcement to help. Blue cities reject it. What do you think he should do? Any action he takes is characterized as dictatorial, authoritarian, fascistic, etc.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
    • Replies: @black sea
    @Harry Baldwin

    If the majority of voters are actually OK with this kind of rampage, then there's not much Trump can do, but it hardly matters, since this would mean that many of America's largest cities are no longer under government control. However, I doubt the majority of voters are OK with BLM/Antifa chaos, regardless of what they are alleged to say in the polls.

    Trump should make it clear that he is offering federal law enforcement assistance to municipalities that want it, but that he won't try to impose it upon any city or state that doesn't. Every week that this mayhem goes on, Trump -- for all his faults -- looks a little stronger, or at least, a little less hapless and crazy, than his opponents.

    This is happening in cities with Democrat administrations, led by city officials who refuse to address the realities of a situation they've helped give birth to. If this is really what most Americans want, than the situation is beyond salvageable. But instead I suspect that the silent Trump vote is growing larger day by day.

    Replies: @Anon7, @MBlanc46

    , @Steve Richter
    @Harry Baldwin


    What do you think he should do? Any action he takes is characterized as dictatorial, authoritarian, fascistic, etc.
     
    he could visit the problem areas, make appearances on local TV and radio, ask people what they think should be done, ask how the violence has affected them.

    Have the DOJ impanel a grand jury tasked to find out why police protection was withheld from neighborhoods, people in need. There must be a constitutional violation committed when a mayor denies police protection to citizens.

    Have a grand jury investigate why some political groups are allowed to pull down statutes and spray paint political slogans when other groups are denied that right.

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Harry Baldwin


    Any action he takes is characterized as dictatorial, authoritarian, fascistic, etc.
     
    Except where the virus is concerned. There, they complain he's not fascistic enough.

    Replies: @Robert Dolan

  118. Anon[222] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Boris Johnson says crossing Channel in small boats ‘dangerous and criminal’
    PM hints at law change to make it easier to deport people who make dangerous voyage

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/10/boris-johnson-hints-at-law-change-to-deport-migrants-who-cross-channel

    More than 4,100 migrants and refugees have reached the UK this year in small boats, making the dangerous crossing across the world’s busiest shipping lane. At least 597 people arrived in the country in a surge in the number of crossings between Thursday and Sunday.

    In theory this would be an “exclusion,” not a “deportation,” if the law is anything like the U.S., which wouldn’t give them many rights to legal procedure, as long as they are promptly caught near the shore. Obama kind of muddled everything up by changing the terminology to “removal” for all categories.

  119. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, Apple is hosting Black women empowerment roundtables for their Apple Music subscribers, featuring successful Black women's tips and tricks for young black women just starting out to reach professional goals.

    Kind of the professional black female version of Jordan Peterson:

    https://twitter.com/sukihanagoat/status/1291778515285749760?s=20

    https://twitter.com/sukihanagoat/status/1291787002560614400?s=20

    Replies: @El Dato, @Clyde, @Saxon, @carol, @Cloudbuster, @Anonymous, @BB753, @Kibernetika

    When the regular Ghetto Hoops just aren’t ghetto enough!

  120. @PiltdownMan
    @Anonymous

    I second that recommendation. V.S. Naipaul's A Bend in the River is a clear-eyed novel, and very apropos.

    https://booksjar.com/pdf-epub-a-bend-in-the-river-download/

    Replies: @36 ulster, @International Jew

    S’ truth. I’d been a Naipaul fan for some time. Whether I agreed with him or not, I always looked forward to reading articles by him, about him, or when he appeared on radio talk shows hosted by the likesof Chicago’s (late) Milt Rosenberg. A Bend in the River is a favorite of mine.

  121. If I can put in an order, there are some paintings in the Art Institute I’ll pay good money for.

  122. ‘What exactly are the Democrats thinking? Do they assume all this rioting and looting is just part of their plot to depose Trump, so as soon as he is gone, the rioters and looters will go home? Or do they figure that as long as they control the media, nobody will notice all the boarded up windows on Michigan Avenue, the most expensive shopping street between the coasts?’

    They can just let the cops off the leash.

    The blacks will get the message quick enough; at least, I imagine that’s the assumption.

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @Colin Wright

    Cops are gone and won't be coming back. Not in the next thirty years. People respond to incentives. Darren Wilson, Chauvin and the cops in Baltimore all ruined and it charged will have them guaranteed driving and waving for more than two generations.

    People are not light switches. No cop will ever trust any promises made by any politician. EVer.

    Chicago and NYC are just another Detroit now. As I repeatedly predicted.

    Cities are over.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  123. @El Dato
    Meanwhile, taking personal interest in your whereabouts and deploying the Junior Social Distancing League

    https://i.postimg.cc/YSzTLqPR/Chicago-at-2020-08-10-09-15-UTC.png

    https://postimg.cc/KK40dFx3

    Replies: @mmack, @36 ulster, @Piglet

    “Social Distancing Ambassadors.” Orwell and Huxley might have grudgingly admired that phrase. I believe that Summer, Ethan and the 300 or so others not so named may be unpleasantly surprised at the reactions of Chicago’s “counter-revolutionaries.”

  124. @Stonewall Jackson
    I wonder if the Democrats can put this lunacy back in the bottle once Biden wins. I guess the Soros money for this will dry up, but still, they have voting blocks that are pretty unruly and rioted when even Obama was in office. Baltimore's experience was pretty much what you have seen here. It hasn't participated in the current hysteria because there is nothing left to loot in the dangerous black neighborhoods... and as one city council candidate said ... take that shit to Towson, we need what's left of our businesses here..

    Replies: @bomag, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @AnotherDad, @jon, @Negrolphin Pool

    …they have voting blocks that are pretty unruly and rioted when even Obama was in office.

    Typo, or pun?

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Reg Cæsar

    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/583863c1e6f2e1216884123c/1565003823193-7J3Z5F14GK0YG557S3HX/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kO708bucTKTraJhrtkBB_nJZw-zPPgdn4jUwVcJE1ZvWEtT5uBSRWt4vQZAgTJucoTqqXjS3CfNDSuuf31e0tVG-pXEJA2M4FVJ37ECpgvPFSdf5ttlypuJ-0oq_MBr77fOohsgB6FhM5fZDueJ9TdU/Blockhead_Large.jpg

    https://www.bandlogojukebox.com/blog/2019/8/1/b2-blockheads


    The story goes that Ian Dury called up designer Barney Bubbles, who was art director at his label Stiff Records, saying he needed a logo for the backing band that he’d newly formed called The Blockheads. He wanted it to be square and black and white. While they were talking on the phone, Dury overheard someone walking past Bubbles’ desk and say “Wow!”. He asked “What’s up?”, and Bubbles said, “Well, I’ve just done it”.
     
    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Reg Cæsar

    I woulda gone with the Blockheads from Gumby.

  125. Get ready, Idaho, Wyoming, Nebraska, Kansas, Montana, Utah, etc., guess where all the fleeing Whites from Portland, Seattle, Chicago, etc., are heading? And guess who will be following the fleeing Whites into your town? That’s right, we have already experienced the huge migration of PHONY leftoid Whites from up North fleeing to the South for decades. Florida bit the dust. Totally ruined by invading Yankees, Haitians, Cubans, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, you name it, Florida has it. Texas is turning to shit. Even in North and South Carolina, Georgia, you now hear strange accents straight out of some Martin Scorsese flick.

    This shit won’t stop in Chicago or Portland. It WILL SPREAD ALONG WITH THE FLEEING YANKEES AND LEFT COAST DWEEBS. After the “colored folks” and rich white brat leftoids destroy Chicago, Seattle, and Portland, those poor little malcontents will have to be fed. After all, these rioters can’t produce anything, they are only good at destroying. To all my Wyoming and Idaho and Utah, brethren, take care and enjoy those strange accents and diversity headed your way. I pray you don’t have to experience it, but just in case, watch out.

  126. @Reg Cæsar
    @Stonewall Jackson


    ...they have voting blocks that are pretty unruly and rioted when even Obama was in office.
     
    Typo, or pun?



    https://www.quotemaster.org/images/bb/bbacfad5626db4079d31ef6cc765cc76.jpg

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @The Germ Theory of Disease


    [MORE]

    https://www.bandlogojukebox.com/blog/2019/8/1/b2-blockheads

    The story goes that Ian Dury called up designer Barney Bubbles, who was art director at his label Stiff Records, saying he needed a logo for the backing band that he’d newly formed called The Blockheads. He wanted it to be square and black and white. While they were talking on the phone, Dury overheard someone walking past Bubbles’ desk and say “Wow!”. He asked “What’s up?”, and Bubbles said, “Well, I’ve just done it”.

  127. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, Apple is hosting Black women empowerment roundtables for their Apple Music subscribers, featuring successful Black women's tips and tricks for young black women just starting out to reach professional goals.

    Kind of the professional black female version of Jordan Peterson:

    https://twitter.com/sukihanagoat/status/1291778515285749760?s=20

    https://twitter.com/sukihanagoat/status/1291787002560614400?s=20

    Replies: @El Dato, @Clyde, @Saxon, @carol, @Cloudbuster, @Anonymous, @BB753, @Kibernetika

    More depressing than that video is the universal approval of it in the Twitter replies.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Cloudbuster


    More depressing than that video is the universal approval of it in the Twitter replies.
     
    Flies on shit.
  128. @Anonymous
    See Nypaul, A Bend in the River. Describes the breakdown of a Central African country after the Whites left. It has a surprising resemblance to recent/current events in the West.

    The Western cities lost their economic function back in the 1950s, were bankrupt during the 1960s, the current system of urban support was made law with the Civil Rights Act (1964) and the Immigration Act (1965) of the Hippie Revolution era, Federal support became significant in about 1970, cities brought in foreigners selected for their inability to be productive in an industrial economy to keep up their number of representatives/political power as their previous populations left to find jobs outside the cities, and cities deteriorated after the entire political financing strategy of the 1960s was proved unworkable in 2008. By 2020 the cities were in active revolt, blocking Federal authority and unable to maintain civil peace inside city limits.

    Naipaul pointed out in Bend that when government becomes irrelevant, and a governing elite is about to be replaced by another, people know it. They (both people in authority and the general population) grab what they can in preparation for bad times ahead. Cities don't have enough money to (a) prevent blackouts (b) police themselves (c) support the economically unproductive foreigners (and natives) within their borders. The strategy whereby cities governed themselves has failed, and there is no money to restore it. Even the rather fatuous Mayor of Portland finally realized this and is now trying to drop his previous supporting coalition of radicals and rule by force. He can try because Portland did not import many economically unproductive people, but his success seems unlikely -- too big a change, the new coalition he's trying to organize won't form quickly enough.

    The Democrats have used COVID-19 to, among other things, set up a succession crisis after the 2019 Presidential elections. The Democrats are the urban coalition, and the cities desperately need money. Politicians and managers have a bad tendency to think that, if only they had complete information and control, they could make things work. As a researcher in automated systems and the application of systems thinking to human organizations, I can say that the managers/politicians are wrong. It is their lack of complete control that permits the system they manage to function at all. Many processes need rapid response to local conditions. A system of complete control by managers/politicians means delayed decisions made without adequate information or familiarity with time critical processes. In other words, Maoist/Stalinist/USSR/UK/US catastrophes. Free nations really do better than authoritarian nations, provided that the free nations have populations that want to produce rather than take. That's right out of Locke and history both. Therefore: A succession crisis followed by an urban dominated government will be unable to glean enough resources to make urban areas governable.

    Looks like we're in for a rough ride, starting with the 2020 US elections / succession crisis. I suspect that it will later be seen as no worse than the re-organization of the USSR into the RF -- an unusually rough Kondratiev Winter (*), no more. After that, yet another cycle of economic expansion, this one probably based on the new capabilities of present day startup startup firms. With any luck this K Winter won't even have another world war. It appears that the cycle of urban dominance we've just been through (**) has destroyed the autarky that the various empires needed to fight World War I and II. And, of course, nuclear weapons make central wars (***) very dangerous indeed.



    *) https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/economics/kondratieff-wave/

    **) Copley, Uncivilization

    ***) A "central war" is one in which the losing coalition is occupied and its government dictated by the winners. WW II is an obvious example, but so was the US invasion of Iraq. Herman Kahn pointed out in Thinking about the Unthinkable that central wars are infeasible when both the participant alliances have nuclear weapons and delivery systems, as nuclear armed losers might well decide to bring the victors down with them.

    Replies: @Johnny Pranke, @PiltdownMan, @Bugg, @jimmyriddle, @Cloudbuster

    …after the 2019 Presidential elections.

    Man, I totally missed the 2019 Presidential elections!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Cloudbuster

    …after the 2019 Presidential elections.

    Sorry, that's a typo. Of course it should read "…after the 2020 Presidential elections."

  129. @Harry Baldwin
    @Dumbo

    What’s Trump’s plan?

    Trump has offered federal law enforcement to help. Blue cities reject it. What do you think he should do? Any action he takes is characterized as dictatorial, authoritarian, fascistic, etc.

    Replies: @black sea, @Steve Richter, @Reg Cæsar

    If the majority of voters are actually OK with this kind of rampage, then there’s not much Trump can do, but it hardly matters, since this would mean that many of America’s largest cities are no longer under government control. However, I doubt the majority of voters are OK with BLM/Antifa chaos, regardless of what they are alleged to say in the polls.

    Trump should make it clear that he is offering federal law enforcement assistance to municipalities that want it, but that he won’t try to impose it upon any city or state that doesn’t. Every week that this mayhem goes on, Trump — for all his faults — looks a little stronger, or at least, a little less hapless and crazy, than his opponents.

    This is happening in cities with Democrat administrations, led by city officials who refuse to address the realities of a situation they’ve helped give birth to. If this is really what most Americans want, than the situation is beyond salvageable. But instead I suspect that the silent Trump vote is growing larger day by day.

    • Agree: Unladen Swallow, BB753, wren
    • Replies: @Anon7
    @black sea

    "This is happening in cities with Democrat administrations, led by city officials who refuse to address the realities of a situation they’ve helped give birth to... But instead I suspect that the silent Trump vote is growing larger day by day."

    I agree with your belief that there is a silent Trump vote, and it will continue to grow right up to the election.

    Unfortunately, I also think that left progressive liberal blue cities are losing population to the suburbs and rural areas (due to Covid-19) and that this migration will start to turn 2016 red counties into 2020 blue counties.

    Planned in advance? That's hard to believe. But taking advantage of Covid-19? Oh, yeah.

    , @MBlanc46
    @black sea

    You’re not taking Dem vote theft into account. They’ll steal more than enough to overwhelm whatever anti-riot feeling there might be.

  130. @Harry Baldwin
    @Dumbo

    What’s Trump’s plan?

    Trump has offered federal law enforcement to help. Blue cities reject it. What do you think he should do? Any action he takes is characterized as dictatorial, authoritarian, fascistic, etc.

    Replies: @black sea, @Steve Richter, @Reg Cæsar

    What do you think he should do? Any action he takes is characterized as dictatorial, authoritarian, fascistic, etc.

    he could visit the problem areas, make appearances on local TV and radio, ask people what they think should be done, ask how the violence has affected them.

    Have the DOJ impanel a grand jury tasked to find out why police protection was withheld from neighborhoods, people in need. There must be a constitutional violation committed when a mayor denies police protection to citizens.

    Have a grand jury investigate why some political groups are allowed to pull down statutes and spray paint political slogans when other groups are denied that right.

    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @Steve Richter

    Those are good ideas.

  131. @Paleo Liberal
    My guess is these are not disorganized mobs looting the fancy stores, but rather organized gangs taking advantage of the chaos. Same as in NYC when the getaway cars were some very fancy SUVs.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @anon

    My guess is these are not disorganized mobs looting the fancy stores, but rather organized gangs taking advantage of the chaos.

    Consider the power of “and”, Mr. Naive. Enjoy the scene you helped to create.

  132. 2nd city cop posts frequently on police issues in Chicago.
    http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/

  133. @Stonewall Jackson
    I wonder if the Democrats can put this lunacy back in the bottle once Biden wins. I guess the Soros money for this will dry up, but still, they have voting blocks that are pretty unruly and rioted when even Obama was in office. Baltimore's experience was pretty much what you have seen here. It hasn't participated in the current hysteria because there is nothing left to loot in the dangerous black neighborhoods... and as one city council candidate said ... take that shit to Towson, we need what's left of our businesses here..

    Replies: @bomag, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @AnotherDad, @jon, @Negrolphin Pool

    If Biden “wins” we have every reason to expect that it will be massively worse. Right now Barr is actually doing great work. Imagine a criminal AG like Holder again.
    ———-
    There was a huge explosion in Baltimore, about which nothing is properly known at the moment. But we already know why there was an explosion in Baltimore. There was an explosion in Baltimore because
    1) Democrats and their pets cannot do basic maintenance and public safety, and something like a gas line was interfered with or allowed to deteriorate;
    2) Democrats and their pets want disturbances (such as the coordinated looting in Chicago or the continued violence in Portland) to confect a historical memory that the Trump years were bad. Perhaps some bright young revolutionary was putting together something he ought not to have been handling;
    3) Democrats and their pets hate America enough to physically destroy it as a cheap political statement, enough to drive a garbage truck into the path of a train carrying congressmen (“Time’s up”);
    4) Democrats and their pets hate America enough that their idea of national security was entrusting the computers of their congressional delegation to a Pakistani intelligence asset.
    So it was probably 2, possibly 1, unlikely but maybe the others, but all of these are actually the same thing. They all have one prevention mechanism.

  134. • Replies: @Deckin
    @Clifford Brown

    They're in the Tesla dealership and they've got the lights on in 2 cars (so ready to go), yet they're not driving off with them. Do they not want to steal them or were they confused trying to start the engine?

    , @El Dato
    @Clifford Brown

    This is why there never will be Black Space Colonies.

    15:07 is that Antifa contributing?

    25:50 LOL

  135. The looting does not pose a problem for Biden. For the most part, viewers don’t know that they are happening. The official narrative is that the boarded up windows are because of Covid. Besides the looting is being instigated by white supremacists

  136. @The Alarmist
    Well ... yeah. I guess this is the New Normal, but are they at least wearing masks?

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @JimDandy, @anon, @Buck Ransom

    Consequences have been removed. Kim Foxx, the same she-beast of a State’s Attorney who tried to enable Jussie Smollett’s malarkey, has essentially de-criminalized crime in Chicago. Chicago’s top-columnists, John Kass, wrote about how Soros-backed prosecutors across the country are doing the same thing in America’s big cities. He was immediately demoted.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @JimDandy

    Black Sack and white flight?

    , @MEH 0910
    @JimDandy

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/07/22/something_grows_in_the_big_cities_run_by_democrats_an_overwhelming_sense_of_lawlessness_143775.html


    Something Grows in the Big Cities Run by Democrats: An Overwhelming Sense of Lawlessness
    By John Kass

    ******
    But these Democratic cities are also where left-wing billionaire George Soros has spent millions of dollars to help elect liberal social justice warriors as prosecutors. He remakes the justice system in urban America, flying under the radar.

    The Soros-funded prosecutors, not the mayors, are the ones who help release the violent on little or no bond.

    ******
    If Trump truly wants to help the cities, he might privately call the mayors and ask them about the prosecutors backed by Soros.

    These prosecutors are among the few politicians in America who have delivered on their promises. They promised to empty their jails through the social justice warrior policy of "decarceration." They also help give repeat, violent criminals little or no bond when arrested.

    And in many of the violent cities, the prosecutors have delivered on their promises, not to keep the violent in jail, but to let them out.

    In Democratic Chicago, for example, the Soros prosecutor is Cook County State's Attorney Kim Foxx. In her 2020 campaign, she reportedly received at least $2 million from a Soros backed political action committee.
     
    https://twitter.com/John_Kass/status/1288885029691629570
  137. That need to crack down on the lootin’;
    The smashin’ and grabbin’ and scootin’…
    Like that feeling is it
    When you’re needing to sh*t;
    Like Vladimir, though, you’re just Putin.

    That need that the murder rate slow down
    (Too many young blacks getting mowed down!) …
    It feels just like this:
    When you’re needing to p*ss,
    Your morning erection won’t go down.

  138. @Clifford Brown
    Lowlight Reel.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=739&v=tUV8ZSZKgUo&feature=emb_title

    Replies: @Deckin, @El Dato

    They’re in the Tesla dealership and they’ve got the lights on in 2 cars (so ready to go), yet they’re not driving off with them. Do they not want to steal them or were they confused trying to start the engine?

  139. @Harry Baldwin
    @Dave Pinsen

    Scott Adams has raised an interesting point. In some of the cities that have experienced severe looting and arson, such as Minneapolis, Seattle, and Portland, the mayors have kept the police from taking aggressive action to stop it. So, in the future, how will people who operate businesses in those cities be able to get insurance? How can an insurance company write a policy for a business knowing that if there's a riot, rioters will be allowed free rein? It seems these cities will have difficulties maintaining business districts.

    Replies: @Barnard, @Thoughts, @anon

    Many policies have provisions that don’t pay out under certain circumstances such as a riot. If not, the companies will add riders to the policies to prevent payouts for civil unrest, etc. They will also increase premiums too. Very few companies with business interruption coverage got insurance payouts because of the Covid shutdowns.

  140. NYC shootings top 2018/2019 combined. Throw in some COVID cases and it’s
    Grim Milestone Monday!

  141. If I lived in Chicago, which newspaper should I take?

    Or find something else?

    Police radio isn’t encrypted?

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Goatweed

    (CPD)


    Police radio isn’t encrypted?
     
    No. 460 Mhz with straight NBFM with CTCSS subaudio squelch.

    https://www.chicagocop.com/resources/radio-frequencies/

    https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/31652
  142. @Buffalo Joe
    I got a little push back the other day, but this is totally on the democrats.Their cities, their voting bloc's spawn. Tax base is being trashed and looted. pretty soon you run out of plate glass, then plywood and the stores will be abandoned. Insurance rates will make it unprofitable to stock your shelves. Tourist and convention dollars are disappearing, property owners are almost maxed out and then where do they go to fund their budget. This shit would stop if one dem city told their teachers pay cuts were coming because the tax base is shrinking.

    Replies: @Jack D, @TomSchmidt

    This shit would stop if one dem city told their teachers pay cuts were coming because the tax base is shrinking.

    Why go after the working class?

    https://nypost.com/2020/04/29/in-nycs-coronavirus-budget-crunch-cut-schools-bureaucracy-first/

    Mayor Bill de Blasio’s budget cuts $200 million-plus from schools, yet leaves the system’s bureaucracy at $125 million above the 2014 level. Under two chancellors, the de Blasio era has seen an ever-growing central staff of allies, cronies and consultants — with the non-classroom bureaucracy up a whopping 46 percent. …
    he added a whole new layer of central bureaucracy: nine executive superintendents earning $200,000 salaries. And some 56 specialists assigned to the little-known or understood Academic Response Teams — costing taxpayers close to $10 million a year to “coach” school staffs where test scores are lagging.

    Treyger (D-Brooklyn), a former teacher, wants to know why spending on central staff, borough administrators and support personnel mushroomed from $489 million to $734 million over seven years. “If you’re not working in a school each day, if you’re working in a field office, you’re not providing a direct service to students,” he fumes.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @TomSchmidt

    Tom, sorry, don't usually consider teachers to be working class, so expand what I said and cut school budgets. Buffalo's school budget exceeds one billion dollars. Hard to believe, and staffing accounts for more tha 70%. Teachers are vocal and big contributors to political campaigns. I thought they were the perfect choice to agitate and demand order.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

  143. Based on the video clips I’ve seen, the Chicago police seem to be astonishingly White given the overall demographics. I wonder if this is a result of entrenched legacy systems you see in these older large urban areas where the best way to become a cop or firefighter is by being the fourth generation of your family in that line of work.
    Contrast with LAPD graduating class.

    https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/df5726b/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2048×1365+0+0/resize/1440×960!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F57%2Ff9%2F171ae2c19787e84f3651c50cd133%2Fla-me-lapd-cadet-graduation-20170624-pictures-002

    These are the people who will be responding to any future 911 call Steve might make. I’m sure he feels safer already.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Alfa158

    Ran out of edit time:
    Hopefully they are Larping and most of them won’t be going on to the Academy and become real police officers.

    , @John Johnson
    @Alfa158

    Based on the video clips I’ve seen, the Chicago police seem to be astonishingly White given the overall demographics. I wonder if this is a result of entrenched legacy systems you see in these older large urban areas where the best way to become a cop or firefighter is by being the fourth generation of your family in that line of work.

    Has nothing to do with entrenched family lines.

    They can't find enough qualified and willing Blacks even with recruitment bonuses.

    This is true all over the country.

    Most of those White Chicago cops don't live in the city. Their families are out in the burbs and the come into the city to work 3 12s. Sometimes they stay in hotels because the commute is so long.

    There is an army of Whites that come into the city of Chicago to keep it running. I had a recruiter somehow get ahold of an old resume of mine and I was offered a 6 figure salary to work downtown. It was a lousy resume and none of references were contactable.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    , @Ed
    @Alfa158

    Policing is still seen as a good job where you can retire after 20 years and get a nice pension. Also they screen for policing. One little secret is that many black recruits can’t pass the reading tests many depts. require.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

  144. @Dave Pinsen
    Dems are playing with fire. Blue cities are in a downward spiral now of rising crime and shrinking tax bases. How many of the stores getting looted now in Chicago were looted earlier this summer? How many will risk reopening to get looted again?

    If Biden wins, Dems in Congress can pass a multi-trillion dollar bailout of the states, and Biden will sign it. Maybe they can limp along in that case with high crime but avoid fiscal disaster like Koch-era New York.

    If Trump wins, he will have the blue cities and states over a barrel, and be able to make demands about law enforcement (including immigration enforcement) in return for bailing them out.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt, @Harry Baldwin, @Mr. Anon, @AnotherDad, @MBlanc46

    If Trump wins, he will have the blue cities and states over a barrel, and be able to make demands about law enforcement (including immigration enforcement) in return for bailing them out.

    True. And yet he won’t. He’ll just tweet about what an awesome job he’s doing and about how he should be added to Mount Rushmore.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8610013/White-House-reached-South-Dakota-governor-adding-Trump-Mount-Rushmore.html

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Mr. Anon

    The issue of Trump being added to Mount Rushmore should be put to a vote in the Senate.

    , @HallParvey
    @Mr. Anon


    True. And yet he won’t. He’ll just tweet about what an awesome job he’s doing and about how he should be added to Mount Rushmore.
     
    And he should. Quite possibly as America's last President. Washington to Trump. Not a bad run. An experiment in freedom from dictatorship that was unique in the history of the world. Sadly compromised when the meaning of the words in the constitution became open to interpretation by The Supremes.
    , @Brutusale
    @Mr. Anon

    Yeah, because no president has ever had any sycophantic follows that would do such a thing for him.

    https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2016/04/obama-rushmore-head.jpg

    , @Ron Mexico
    @Mr. Anon

    If I were Trump I would settle for having my face on Kristie Noem.

  145. @Harry Baldwin
    @Dave Pinsen

    Scott Adams has raised an interesting point. In some of the cities that have experienced severe looting and arson, such as Minneapolis, Seattle, and Portland, the mayors have kept the police from taking aggressive action to stop it. So, in the future, how will people who operate businesses in those cities be able to get insurance? How can an insurance company write a policy for a business knowing that if there's a riot, rioters will be allowed free rein? It seems these cities will have difficulties maintaining business districts.

    Replies: @Barnard, @Thoughts, @anon

    Tacit understanding.

    Who owns the insurance companies? Even if they aren’t owned by Lord Voldemort, they can still be forced to cover people.

    I think you guys really believe that the U.S. is operating according to Principles.

    Steve Sailer Commentators with their Naive Logical Brains versus Reality

    Reality says, ‘Wink Wink’

    Everything is going according to plan. Don’t worry businesses, you’ll be fine.

  146. @black sea
    @Harry Baldwin

    If the majority of voters are actually OK with this kind of rampage, then there's not much Trump can do, but it hardly matters, since this would mean that many of America's largest cities are no longer under government control. However, I doubt the majority of voters are OK with BLM/Antifa chaos, regardless of what they are alleged to say in the polls.

    Trump should make it clear that he is offering federal law enforcement assistance to municipalities that want it, but that he won't try to impose it upon any city or state that doesn't. Every week that this mayhem goes on, Trump -- for all his faults -- looks a little stronger, or at least, a little less hapless and crazy, than his opponents.

    This is happening in cities with Democrat administrations, led by city officials who refuse to address the realities of a situation they've helped give birth to. If this is really what most Americans want, than the situation is beyond salvageable. But instead I suspect that the silent Trump vote is growing larger day by day.

    Replies: @Anon7, @MBlanc46

    “This is happening in cities with Democrat administrations, led by city officials who refuse to address the realities of a situation they’ve helped give birth to… But instead I suspect that the silent Trump vote is growing larger day by day.

    I agree with your belief that there is a silent Trump vote, and it will continue to grow right up to the election.

    Unfortunately, I also think that left progressive liberal blue cities are losing population to the suburbs and rural areas (due to Covid-19) and that this migration will start to turn 2016 red counties into 2020 blue counties.

    Planned in advance? That’s hard to believe. But taking advantage of Covid-19? Oh, yeah.

  147. @Alfa158
    Based on the video clips I’ve seen, the Chicago police seem to be astonishingly White given the overall demographics. I wonder if this is a result of entrenched legacy systems you see in these older large urban areas where the best way to become a cop or firefighter is by being the fourth generation of your family in that line of work.
    Contrast with LAPD graduating class.

    https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/df5726b/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2048x1365+0+0/resize/1440x960!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F57%2Ff9%2F171ae2c19787e84f3651c50cd133%2Fla-me-lapd-cadet-graduation-20170624-pictures-002

    These are the people who will be responding to any future 911 call Steve might make. I’m sure he feels safer already.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @John Johnson, @Ed

    Ran out of edit time:
    Hopefully they are Larping and most of them won’t be going on to the Academy and become real police officers.

  148. OT: Ramzpaul points this out – google “white american doctor”

  149. Granted this is what we’re all thinking, but it needs to be said – shouted! – out loud:

    KILL ANTIFA. KILL LOOTING BLACKS. SHOOT THEM INDISCRIMINATELY, AND JAIL THE SURVIVORS.

    And shoot a few “legacy” journalists. For luck.

    Dumbass Negroes were actually repairing their public image while white antifa besieged Portland and Seattle. My God – they really are as stupid as they look.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    @Ragno

    Sure, but these are but the flimsiest foot-soldiers of the Revolution.

    The bitter fog of Endless Sleep must seep into the fortresses of Wall Street, the Bank of England, the Vatican, and whatever high tower holds the Eye of Soros.

  150. Bridges that go to downtown Chicago were raised about 2-3AM this morning. My estimate. This also kept looters from getting out for a few hours.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Clyde

    [[[Post-apocalyptic feeling intensifies]]]

    Meanwhile, Bezos takes a dump:

    As Bezos dumps over $3bn of Amazon shares, here’s why you should be worried

    Replies: @Clyde

  151. @James Speaks
    blacks loot White stores b/c White-bad and black-good. For amusement, try to explain to one that looting is the wholesale abuse of another’s rights just as slavery was the wholesale abuse of Africans’ rights, and I believe the response you would receive is some variation of “You crazy.”

    Until blacks learn moral reasoning in the abstract (never) they will remain unsuited to live in white society.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Anon7, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Neuday

    Until blacks learn moral reasoning in the abstract (never) they will remain unsuited to live in white society.

    We seem to be headed in the opposite direction, as BLACKS! are learning Who Whom, and they like what they see.

  152. @Dave Pinsen
    Dems are playing with fire. Blue cities are in a downward spiral now of rising crime and shrinking tax bases. How many of the stores getting looted now in Chicago were looted earlier this summer? How many will risk reopening to get looted again?

    If Biden wins, Dems in Congress can pass a multi-trillion dollar bailout of the states, and Biden will sign it. Maybe they can limp along in that case with high crime but avoid fiscal disaster like Koch-era New York.

    If Trump wins, he will have the blue cities and states over a barrel, and be able to make demands about law enforcement (including immigration enforcement) in return for bailing them out.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt, @Harry Baldwin, @Mr. Anon, @AnotherDad, @MBlanc46

    If Biden wins, Dems in Congress can pass a multi-trillion dollar bailout of the states, and Biden will sign it. Maybe they can limp along in that case with high crime but avoid fiscal disaster like Koch-era New York.

    This.

    Huge federal bailout is clearly the plan. Basically, the Democrat constituencies–blacks, bureaucrats, the lobbyists, lawyers, consultants, contractors blob, low paid immigrants, single moms, women in soft makework jobs–are parasites. They live off the labors of the highly productive–mostly white guys. (One thing the Xi virus has made clear is that it’s a small number of guys working that actually make things function–lights on, food on the shelves, gas for the car.) And increasingly off the accumulated capital–actual and “reputational”–of previous productive generations of Americans.

    In the last decade, the establishment has found that the fed can roll the presses–absent a true replacement/competitor–the dollars status as the world’s reserve currency buffers any immediate downside. Free money!

    That’s the Democrats plan. Shutdown the economy. Riot away. All their constituencies will get bailed out. Screw the future!

    Who is going to pay for these riots–your children, your grandchildren, your “posterity”.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad


    That’s the Democrats plan. Shutdown the economy. Riot away. All their constituencies will get bailed out. Screw the future!
     
    Agree, that's their plan. Won't work this time. 2020 is the year when the money runs out, securities can't be sold at a low interest rated, the resources bought with the money raised will be inadequate, the money used will be spent on political disputes rather than what's needed physically.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

  153. @The Alarmist
    Well ... yeah. I guess this is the New Normal, but are they at least wearing masks?

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @JimDandy, @anon, @Buck Ransom

    are they at least wearing masks?

    I can’t tell for sure, but it looks like the looting is mostly peaceful.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @anon

    What do you suppose will happen when #BLM collides intersects with #MeToo ? My money says Black Trumps Womyn.

    Replies: @Rob McX

  154. @The Alarmist
    Well ... yeah. I guess this is the New Normal, but are they at least wearing masks?

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @JimDandy, @anon, @Buck Ransom

    Looks like a whole lot of folks had to pull themselves away from table-building to participate in this event.

    • LOL: Buffalo Joe
    • Replies: @anon
    @Buck Ransom

    Looks like a whole lot of folks had to pull themselves away from table-building to participate in this event.

    Probably they were just comparing table designs, and picking up a few samples.

  155. @Dumbo

    Has anybody ever asked Joe Biden what his plan is for why this kind of thing won’t go on throughout his term?
     
    Forget Biden. What's Trump's plan? What is he doing about it? Yeah yeah, "blue cities", but this has been happening nationwide, with not many repercussions so far.

    Replies: @LRFD, @Harry Baldwin, @John Johnson

    Forget Biden. What’s Trump’s plan? What is he doing about it? Yeah yeah, “blue cities”, but this has been happening nationwide, with not many repercussions so far.

    Maintaining law and order within cities is not the jurisdiction of the Federal government anymore than cleaning the sidewalks.

    Trump’s plan should be to remind the people of this and then head to the golf course.

    Cities like Chicago continue to elect liberals that refuse to hold Black criminals accountable out of a patronizing belief that Blacks are always victims and have no moral accountability.

    • Agree: Ed
  156. @Alfa158
    Based on the video clips I’ve seen, the Chicago police seem to be astonishingly White given the overall demographics. I wonder if this is a result of entrenched legacy systems you see in these older large urban areas where the best way to become a cop or firefighter is by being the fourth generation of your family in that line of work.
    Contrast with LAPD graduating class.

    https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/df5726b/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2048x1365+0+0/resize/1440x960!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F57%2Ff9%2F171ae2c19787e84f3651c50cd133%2Fla-me-lapd-cadet-graduation-20170624-pictures-002

    These are the people who will be responding to any future 911 call Steve might make. I’m sure he feels safer already.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @John Johnson, @Ed

    Based on the video clips I’ve seen, the Chicago police seem to be astonishingly White given the overall demographics. I wonder if this is a result of entrenched legacy systems you see in these older large urban areas where the best way to become a cop or firefighter is by being the fourth generation of your family in that line of work.

    Has nothing to do with entrenched family lines.

    They can’t find enough qualified and willing Blacks even with recruitment bonuses.

    This is true all over the country.

    Most of those White Chicago cops don’t live in the city. Their families are out in the burbs and the come into the city to work 3 12s. Sometimes they stay in hotels because the commute is so long.

    There is an army of Whites that come into the city of Chicago to keep it running. I had a recruiter somehow get ahold of an old resume of mine and I was offered a 6 figure salary to work downtown. It was a lousy resume and none of references were contactable.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @John Johnson

    Boston's PD stays mostly white and Irish due to residency laws for city employment.

    https://www.boston.gov/departments/human-resources/residency-requirements-city-workers

    Funny that Boston, as blue a burg as exists in America, hasn't suffered the sane idiocies that have plagued its moonbat sister cities.

    Replies: @Aeronerauk

  157. Looting on a scale this massive seems like it was organized to be this large. Another BLM-Antifa tactic? I think we may see this new tactic happening in other major blue cities soon.

    It would fit Alinsky’s rules, as its a change in tactics as the riots become less interesting. Plus blacks seem most inclined to looting, and since the only people they can riot against now are other blacks, the BLM-Antifa heads want to focus them away from the latter and more on hating whitey.

  158. @PiltdownMan
    @Anonymous

    I second that recommendation. V.S. Naipaul's A Bend in the River is a clear-eyed novel, and very apropos.

    https://booksjar.com/pdf-epub-a-bend-in-the-river-download/

    Replies: @36 ulster, @International Jew

    I third that recommendation.

    Americans will recognize a familiar situation: Indian shopkeepers relying on European protection against Africans.

    • Agree: Just another serf
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @International Jew

    For anyone thirsty for something nice said about white men, here is a contribution from an Egyptian woman:


    What pleasantly surprised you when someone took off their clothes?

  159. Anonymous[349] • Disclaimer says:

    The shoot-loot phenom. Blacks must now eagerly look forward to another pig-a-jig killing as it gives them another justification to vandalize and steal. The jackpot or blackpot.

    After all, the elites bestowed blessing on the blacks for burning and looting after Floyd’s death. If anything, just when blacks were acting crazy, the elites got on their knees. Appease thugs as gods, and this is the result.

    Big difference between riots in the past and the 2020 riots was that riots used to reluctantly rationalized on sociological grounds. But the 2020 riots were downright moralized and even spiritualized. Also, if in past riots, there was some coverage of the victims of the looters, there was a total blackout of any grievance but those of blacks.

    And elites even sided with violent thugs against the police and federal agents.

    This set a new model for future behavior. And it can’t be good in any way.

  160. The Chicago looting is article 17 on the mobile NYT site and has 2 photos, neither showing the looting. Ranked higher: an article about what the “sexting” former congresswoman Katie Hill is up to these days, something about “mansplaining,” and articles about Mark Cuban and McDonalds suing its former CEO.

    It is the top article on Daily Mail, with 65 photos, including dramatic pics of a smashed and stripped bare Apple Store, a raised bridge to block access to downtown, and lots of looting in progress images.

    • Replies: @notsaying
    @Lot

    The Daily Mail is great for providing lots of pictures and often has details other places don't. I checked them out early this morning though and they had nothing about the looting. Neither did the Chicago Tribune; those newspaper staffing cuts obviously have gone deep when you don't even have a banner at the top of the page announcing major events like this looting. It was sad to see.

    Replies: @Lot, @Lurker

  161. @Clifford Brown
    Lowlight Reel.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=739&v=tUV8ZSZKgUo&feature=emb_title

    Replies: @Deckin, @El Dato

    This is why there never will be Black Space Colonies.

    15:07 is that Antifa contributing?

    25:50 LOL

  162. @Reg Cæsar
    @Stonewall Jackson


    ...they have voting blocks that are pretty unruly and rioted when even Obama was in office.
     
    Typo, or pun?



    https://www.quotemaster.org/images/bb/bbacfad5626db4079d31ef6cc765cc76.jpg

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    I woulda gone with the Blockheads from Gumby.

  163. Remember, it’s not “looting”. It’s “undocumented shopping” (US).

    And perhaps we can net the US proceeds against the reparations accounts.

  164. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, Apple is hosting Black women empowerment roundtables for their Apple Music subscribers, featuring successful Black women's tips and tricks for young black women just starting out to reach professional goals.

    Kind of the professional black female version of Jordan Peterson:

    https://twitter.com/sukihanagoat/status/1291778515285749760?s=20

    https://twitter.com/sukihanagoat/status/1291787002560614400?s=20

    Replies: @El Dato, @Clyde, @Saxon, @carol, @Cloudbuster, @Anonymous, @BB753, @Kibernetika

    Imagine all the dutiful parents who relent to giving their whining children an iPhone, and go through all the blocking procedures to protect them, but don’t consider blocking Apple Music because they have no idea that it’s a nesting area for loudmouth ignorant black ho baby mama’s joyfully telling them how to be ratchet!

    What I love most about these latest vids of looting is since there’s apparently no whites or Jews to guide them in this instance, the negroes of Chicago effectively demonstrate the absolute JOY they experience while yielding to their nature. A lot of white BLM’ers don’t really get to see that, since most have few or no black friends.

    No fake outrage here! Just pure and simple nignance from a pure and simple people, unencumbered by the oppressive dictates of decent behavior required for the successful operation of modern civilization.

    This morning, they must be SOOOO TIRED!! lol

  165. @Harry Baldwin
    @Dumbo

    What’s Trump’s plan?

    Trump has offered federal law enforcement to help. Blue cities reject it. What do you think he should do? Any action he takes is characterized as dictatorial, authoritarian, fascistic, etc.

    Replies: @black sea, @Steve Richter, @Reg Cæsar

    Any action he takes is characterized as dictatorial, authoritarian, fascistic, etc.

    Except where the virus is concerned. There, they complain he’s not fascistic enough.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    @Reg Cæsar

    This excuse is lame because they call him a racist no matter what he does, so it doesn't matter.

    I hate the lawlessness and it should be stopped. It should not have been allowed to go on.

    Barr could shut it down but I think he's actually covering for the left. In any case he's spineless as the rest of the stupid GOP.

    So many say, "Who cares it's a blue city?" This is asinine on so many levels. First of all people are being assaulted and murdered. And not every single person in the "blue city" is going to be a Democrat or a non-white.

    Someone will have to pay for all of that destruction and it will wind up being the hard working white taxpayers.

    In any case, allowing the lawlessness makes a mockery of our country. It's anarcho-tyranny and the laws are selectively enforced. Whites have to follow the law and are not even allowed to defend themselves, while BLM and Antifa are free to rape and rob and pillage.

    This is no way to run a country. All decent people recoil from this chaos and violence.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

  166. Listing prices for some high-end condos might decline now. If so, the media would not cover this. One would need to systematically follow listing prices on Zillow or Trulia. I suspect that most owners will not reduce the price or suddenly post a listing. They are unwilling to face the truth of their loss, and, they are hoping things will change.

  167. Mass Rioting And Looting In Chicago, Police Shot At And Return Fire, Guard In Critical Condition


  168. @International Jew
    @PiltdownMan

    I third that recommendation.

    Americans will recognize a familiar situation: Indian shopkeepers relying on European protection against Africans.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    For anyone thirsty for something nice said about white men, here is a contribution from an Egyptian woman:

    What pleasantly surprised you when someone took off their clothes?

  169. The HBD right and Christian right, even when racially aware and J-Woke still seem to have this cuck instinct.

    Look at how many blacks are being shot by each other, BLM doesn’t really protect black lives.

    They need to stop assuming that the defense of black lives is some morally superior position. The position should be fuck blacks, let them kill and abort each other to the fullest.

  170. Timeline Of America’s Decline
    1945: “America” helps free the world from “fascism” and Hitler ( try not to laugh.)

    1946 – 1964: Hollywood turns the anti-White propaganda up a notch and starts encouraging race mixing with movies like, “The House I Live In” starring Frank Sinatra, “To Kill A Mockingbird” starring Gregory Peck, “To Sir With Love” & “Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner” with Sidney Poitier, etc. FORCED INTEGRATION of schools in the South. Patriotic American Presidents Dwight Eisenhower and JFK send federal troops down South to make sure Americans are forced against their will to integrate our public school system.

    1964-1980: Swindle Whites Movement, and The Immigration Reform Act both clearly championed and organized by Jews. Roe vs Wade, feminist movement, affirmative action, hippies tuning out and turning on, Vietnam, crime, etc., etc, the downward spiral is tuned up a notch or two. All this being done with “pro-conservative” and very “white” Presidents, Richard Nixon and later, good ole Ronald Regan (1981-1989) at the helm.

    1981-2008: Crack epidemic, AIDS, major cities turning majority Black, major cities being run by Black mayors, Black police chiefs and the decay is noticeable to even the blind, deaf and dumb. Invasions from our southern border increase noticeably, you now are seeing Mexicans in places like Omaha, Fargo, Nashville, and Little Rock. Movies start really portraying the opposite of reality with their inversion of the truth. REEL is the opposite of REAL, we are treated to fairy tales that feature OJ Simpson saving some blonde woman from evil White KKK members, or the “based on a true story fairy tale” titled, ” A Time To Kill” which takes a true story and reverses the race of the victims and perpetrators. Black on White crimes become noticeably more frequent and even more violent, these crimes are also swept under the rug by a dishonest and totally corrupt anti-White media, horrific murders like the Christian-Newsom and Wichita Massacre among countless others garner no attention, while the media continues the REEL vs. REAL charade.

    2008-Present: The transformation of America. America elects its “first Black president” who promises to transform America. Black on White crime increases even more if that is possible. Movies become ridiculously anti-White and in your face with their hatred. History being rewritten, ( but then again, how much of the previous history we were taught was actually true as well), statues being desecrated and torn down, police being attacked, well you see it. It will take a miracle for America to turn it around. We MIGHT be going out with a whimper. I hope not, but it doesn’t look good.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    @Trinity

    Extremely low-IQ comment. Black on white crime (and crime in general) has been decreasing for the last 30 years.

    , @Giancarlo M. Kumquat
    @Trinity

    We must listen to John Lennon,who unwittingly gave it all away: The dream is over!

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Trinity


    1964-1980: Swindle Whites Movement, and The Immigration Reform Act both clearly championed and organized by Jews.
     
    You left out Epperson v Arkansas. Jews, i.e. the ACLU, were even more involved in that one.

    Somebody had it in for the people of Arkansas.
  171. @Reg Cæsar
    @Harry Baldwin


    Any action he takes is characterized as dictatorial, authoritarian, fascistic, etc.
     
    Except where the virus is concerned. There, they complain he's not fascistic enough.

    Replies: @Robert Dolan

    This excuse is lame because they call him a racist no matter what he does, so it doesn’t matter.

    I hate the lawlessness and it should be stopped. It should not have been allowed to go on.

    Barr could shut it down but I think he’s actually covering for the left. In any case he’s spineless as the rest of the stupid GOP.

    So many say, “Who cares it’s a blue city?” This is asinine on so many levels. First of all people are being assaulted and murdered. And not every single person in the “blue city” is going to be a Democrat or a non-white.

    Someone will have to pay for all of that destruction and it will wind up being the hard working white taxpayers.

    In any case, allowing the lawlessness makes a mockery of our country. It’s anarcho-tyranny and the laws are selectively enforced. Whites have to follow the law and are not even allowed to defend themselves, while BLM and Antifa are free to rape and rob and pillage.

    This is no way to run a country. All decent people recoil from this chaos and violence.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Robert Dolan


    I hate the lawlessness and it should be stopped. It should not have been allowed to go on
     
    True, but Trump is neither a mayor nor a governor. They're the derelicts, not Donald.
    , @Anonymous
    @Robert Dolan

    I don't recoil from the looting.

    I'm tired of being overcharged for shit that costs pennies to make in China. I have 0 loyalty to any of these brands and I have 0 sympathy for the white women working low wage fashion jobs that will find themselves unemployed as a result of lost profits.

    It's not like handmaid leather goods from Grandma Alba in Italy.

    As far as I'm concerned, I wish it were whites Gettin' Some. At least the blacks are Gettin' Theirs.


    I do recoil from CHAZ/CHOP and Statue Desecration. That's Sick. And that was done by some pretty messed up whites and (()).

  172. @Jack D
    @Buffalo Joe


    This shit would stop if one dem city told their teachers pay cuts were coming because the tax base is shrinking.
     
    That's not the plan. Pelosi has already decided to send trillions in Federal $ to the cities. For now, the Senate and Trump are not going along but after January there's a good chance that it will all be Dem controlled. Who needs a tax base if the Federal Reserve can just print up $? We are in a deflationary environment anyway so no one notices that printing $ is inflationary.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Dave Pinsen, @MBlanc46

    Jack, digusting and borderline criminal to let the cities be trashed so they can stay or assume power. Did mention today I loathe Andrew Cuomo?

  173. @anon
    Kamala Harris died:

    https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1292619169431658496

    Replies: @Henry's Cat, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @Reg Cæsar, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @Duke84

    Kamala Harris has a quite impressive chest!

  174. @TomSchmidt
    @Buffalo Joe

    This shit would stop if one dem city told their teachers pay cuts were coming because the tax base is shrinking.

    Why go after the working class?

    https://nypost.com/2020/04/29/in-nycs-coronavirus-budget-crunch-cut-schools-bureaucracy-first/


    Mayor Bill de Blasio’s budget cuts $200 million-plus from schools, yet leaves the system’s bureaucracy at $125 million above the 2014 level. Under two chancellors, the de Blasio era has seen an ever-growing central staff of allies, cronies and consultants — with the non-classroom bureaucracy up a whopping 46 percent. ...
    he added a whole new layer of central bureaucracy: nine executive superintendents earning $200,000 salaries. And some 56 specialists assigned to the little-known or understood Academic Response Teams — costing taxpayers close to $10 million a year to “coach” school staffs where test scores are lagging.

    Treyger (D-Brooklyn), a former teacher, wants to know why spending on central staff, borough administrators and support personnel mushroomed from $489 million to $734 million over seven years. “If you’re not working in a school each day, if you’re working in a field office, you’re not providing a direct service to students,” he fumes.
     

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Tom, sorry, don’t usually consider teachers to be working class, so expand what I said and cut school budgets. Buffalo’s school budget exceeds one billion dollars. Hard to believe, and staffing accounts for more tha 70%. Teachers are vocal and big contributors to political campaigns. I thought they were the perfect choice to agitate and demand order.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    @Buffalo Joe

    No need to apologize, Joe. Teachers are decently paid up in the northeast, but they're not the ones who absorb the egregious dollars. I can see the utility of a classroom teacher, even if most science teachers in my county in high school earn more than 100K; it's a lot harder to see the bureaucrats larded through the system as serving anything other than blood-sucking ticks.

    Look, with the hole that Cuomo blew in the state budget from the lockdown, someone's ox is getting gored. It will be great to see the professional managerial class get gored.

    Defund the bureaucrats would be a great slogan; even I would support BLM if that became their motto.

  175. You said it “the most expensive shopping street between the coasts.” They’re finally getting smart. Looting the rich instead of looting their own neighborhoods. This is a definite improvement. I’m all for looting anything that belongs to the rich. Because I am prejudiced against the rich, see? And proud of my prejudice, just like you are, only yours is against poverty-stricken blacks. Really going out on a limb there. Hate blacks and what kind of retribution do you get? Whoopdedo. Hate the rich and see what kind of retribution you get. Hellfire and damnation. So my prejudice is brave and yours is cowardly.

    • LOL: usNthem
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @obwandiyag

    You said it “the most expensive shopping street between the coasts.” They’re finally getting smart. Looting the rich instead of looting their own neighborhoods. This is a definite improvement.

    Getting smart would not mean risking a theft charge over stealing $200 worth of European designer clothes from a store that probably employs Blacks.

    Getting smart means trying to bring businesses in and not sending them in the other direction.

    A lot of these Black areas can't even maintain a basic grocery store. You will see the women in these areas taking buses to White areas to buy groceries.

    Oh but I'm sure that's somehow the fault of rayciss Whites.

    I would really like to see Blacks get smart and kick out liberal Whites along with violent Black criminals. Would be great. Will never happen though with a Black leadership and liberal establishment that insists on blaming Whites for all their problems.

  176. @Clyde
    Bridges that go to downtown Chicago were raised about 2-3AM this morning. My estimate. This also kept looters from getting out for a few hours.
    https://twitter.com/yhazony/status/1292809649100660741

    Replies: @El Dato

    [[[Post-apocalyptic feeling intensifies]]]

    Meanwhile, Bezos takes a dump:

    As Bezos dumps over $3bn of Amazon shares, here’s why you should be worried

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @El Dato

    Bezos is cashing out some of his Amazon shares because he wants to buy a space program or something else. He is always fully invested in Amazon. Thpse shares are his piggy bank. They world financial bubble will blow who knows when, because it could have blown any time in the last ten years.

    It kinda blew in late 2008 but was successfully papered over. We got the Great Recession out of it.

    Replies: @Brutusale

  177. @Buffalo Joe
    @TomSchmidt

    Tom, sorry, don't usually consider teachers to be working class, so expand what I said and cut school budgets. Buffalo's school budget exceeds one billion dollars. Hard to believe, and staffing accounts for more tha 70%. Teachers are vocal and big contributors to political campaigns. I thought they were the perfect choice to agitate and demand order.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

    No need to apologize, Joe. Teachers are decently paid up in the northeast, but they’re not the ones who absorb the egregious dollars. I can see the utility of a classroom teacher, even if most science teachers in my county in high school earn more than 100K; it’s a lot harder to see the bureaucrats larded through the system as serving anything other than blood-sucking ticks.

    Look, with the hole that Cuomo blew in the state budget from the lockdown, someone’s ox is getting gored. It will be great to see the professional managerial class get gored.

    Defund the bureaucrats would be a great slogan; even I would support BLM if that became their motto.

    • Thanks: Buffalo Joe
  178. @Clyde
    For a test I went to these websites and saw no mention of Chicago rioting. CNN, FOX, NY Times. It's not important to them. Did the Washingtoon Post cover last night's shoot 'em up in DC? I could not find it but they covered fresh rioting in Portland

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Anon, @Kronos

    I could not find it but they covered fresh rioting in Portland

    Just because they’re mainly white or that’s where Soros wants the attention?

  179. @Jesse
    @TomSchmidt

    You may be overestimating their savvy, although I do agree that they'll find a way to turn it to their advantage. A lot depends on whether they and their descendants decide that city living is worth fighting for.

    A lot also depends on whether they want to export their votes/values, or specifically their Blacks. And on what the plan is on keeping/doing without their respectable tax base.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

    Yeah, who knows? I’ve kidded my wife that BLM must be a Republican operation given how toxic they are to Democratic chances, as in 2014 and 2016 (Soros and Bloomberg directly funded Congressional campaigns in 2018 instead), but that assumes the R’s know what they’re doing.

    I read recently that wealth in the NYC area dropped by something like 400Bln as a result of COVID. As with blockbusting, the first ones to sell are the lucky ones.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @TomSchmidt

    It took 30+ years (1960-1993) for NYC lefties to admit their mistakes to themselves and grudgingly vote in law-and-order Giuliani---and that was even in the face of fierce opposition and cries of "fascism". Although, to be fair, Ed Koch and David Dinkins both embraced more centrist social policies, with Dinkins being the one who started (in a small way) Broken Windows.

    And NYCers never admitted they were wrong to anyone else---people denied voting for Giuliani, and NYCers didn't blame any of their previous commie actions as bad or evil at all. Even the ones who fled denied it---Brooklyn-born Bernie Sanders fled to Vermont and still screamed for the very socialism that destroyed NYC.

    It's going to take a long time, I believe, before NYC lefties who stay ever admit to themselves that yeah, constantly playing into the blacks-as-victims, police-are-evil thing was a bad plan. I think it'll be at least 10 years before they even hint to elect a strong law-and-order candidate. Thus I predict De Blasio's successor will continue these policies.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

  180. Great way to start the week. New clothes, new shoes, new whatever shit weez don’t need gonna steal anyway because racism, George, Ahmaud, Breonna, Rayshard and on and on and fucking on.

    Are we having fun yet?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @bruce county

    What amazes me about all this looting is the sheer destruction. I'd maybe go in and grab some pants and shirts, but these {...} seem to delight in trashing everything they don't steal. Maybe it's I got mine so f you. And why do they all scream at once at the top of their lungs?

    Blacks truly are God's curse on America.

    Replies: @anon

  181. @obwandiyag
    You said it "the most expensive shopping street between the coasts." They're finally getting smart. Looting the rich instead of looting their own neighborhoods. This is a definite improvement. I'm all for looting anything that belongs to the rich. Because I am prejudiced against the rich, see? And proud of my prejudice, just like you are, only yours is against poverty-stricken blacks. Really going out on a limb there. Hate blacks and what kind of retribution do you get? Whoopdedo. Hate the rich and see what kind of retribution you get. Hellfire and damnation. So my prejudice is brave and yours is cowardly.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    You said it “the most expensive shopping street between the coasts.” They’re finally getting smart. Looting the rich instead of looting their own neighborhoods. This is a definite improvement.

    Getting smart would not mean risking a theft charge over stealing $200 worth of European designer clothes from a store that probably employs Blacks.

    Getting smart means trying to bring businesses in and not sending them in the other direction.

    A lot of these Black areas can’t even maintain a basic grocery store. You will see the women in these areas taking buses to White areas to buy groceries.

    Oh but I’m sure that’s somehow the fault of rayciss Whites.

    I would really like to see Blacks get smart and kick out liberal Whites along with violent Black criminals. Would be great. Will never happen though with a Black leadership and liberal establishment that insists on blaming Whites for all their problems.

  182. @TomSchmidt
    @Jesse

    Yeah, who knows? I've kidded my wife that BLM must be a Republican operation given how toxic they are to Democratic chances, as in 2014 and 2016 (Soros and Bloomberg directly funded Congressional campaigns in 2018 instead), but that assumes the R's know what they're doing.

    I read recently that wealth in the NYC area dropped by something like 400Bln as a result of COVID. As with blockbusting, the first ones to sell are the lucky ones.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    It took 30+ years (1960-1993) for NYC lefties to admit their mistakes to themselves and grudgingly vote in law-and-order Giuliani—and that was even in the face of fierce opposition and cries of “fascism”. Although, to be fair, Ed Koch and David Dinkins both embraced more centrist social policies, with Dinkins being the one who started (in a small way) Broken Windows.

    And NYCers never admitted they were wrong to anyone else—people denied voting for Giuliani, and NYCers didn’t blame any of their previous commie actions as bad or evil at all. Even the ones who fled denied it—Brooklyn-born Bernie Sanders fled to Vermont and still screamed for the very socialism that destroyed NYC.

    It’s going to take a long time, I believe, before NYC lefties who stay ever admit to themselves that yeah, constantly playing into the blacks-as-victims, police-are-evil thing was a bad plan. I think it’ll be at least 10 years before they even hint to elect a strong law-and-order candidate. Thus I predict De Blasio’s successor will continue these policies.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    @R.G. Camara


    It’s going to take a long time, I believe, before NYC lefties who stay ever admit to themselves that yeah, constantly playing into the blacks-as-victims, police-are-evil thing was a bad plan. I think it’ll be at least 10 years before they even hint to elect a strong law-and-order candidate. Thus I predict De Blasio’s successor will continue these policies.
     
    Recall that the white working and middle classes were more prominent when Giuliani was first elected. The city is a lot less "real" in what it does, even since then. If you make your money on film, or moving numbers in a spreadsheet, you're a lot more disconnected from reality than people who have to deal with reality in their jobs. The city is symbolic manipulators at the top and non-working receivers at the bottom, and none of them give a fig about what happens.

    Of course, we have had the 70s in 6 months this year. Except for the budget crisis, which is coming. Will DeBlasio cut the cops and services for the middle classes to save pork for the poor? Given how recently things were pretty good, I expect the next mayor to be expected to bring back the good times.

    I thought inMarch that the city would take years to return to where it was inJanuary. I don't think it will ever get back there now.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

  183. @Anonymous


    A reminder that these expensive stores catered mostly to tourists. Most recently they appear to be catering to the rap-music crowd. Quite a few residents here never shop at these stores..
     
    Judging by the latest posts in the thread, it appears that looters are now going after the everyday stores and shops.

    So far: Walgreens and a local restaurant. Are there others?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @cityview

    Judging by the latest posts in the thread, it appears that looters are now going after the everyday stores and shops.

    So far: Walgreens and a local restaurant. Are there others?

    Nordstrom rack, shoe store, Best buy and a 7-11.

    There goes the liberal rationalization that they were just stores for the wealthy.

    In the liberal mind I guess it is ok for Black looters to pull up in a luxury SUV and steal Canada goose jackets as long as the store is normally frequented by the wealthy.

    Who are we really kidding? Liberals outside the area wouldn’t care if Chicago burned to the ground. In their minds all Whites have it coming.

    You see we robbed them of their wealth even though there are African countries older than Poland where Blacks don’t have luxury SUVs or basic cars for that matter. Oh but that was somehow caused by Whitey too.

    Bad stuff = Whitey.

  184. @Goatweed
    If I lived in Chicago, which newspaper should I take?

    Or find something else?

    Police radio isn’t encrypted?

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    (CPD)

    Police radio isn’t encrypted?

    No. 460 Mhz with straight NBFM with CTCSS subaudio squelch.

    https://www.chicagocop.com/resources/radio-frequencies/

    https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/31652

  185. @Trinity
    Timeline Of America's Decline
    1945: "America" helps free the world from "fascism" and Hitler ( try not to laugh.)

    1946 - 1964: Hollywood turns the anti-White propaganda up a notch and starts encouraging race mixing with movies like, "The House I Live In" starring Frank Sinatra, "To Kill A Mockingbird" starring Gregory Peck, "To Sir With Love" & "Guess Who's Coming To Dinner" with Sidney Poitier, etc. FORCED INTEGRATION of schools in the South. Patriotic American Presidents Dwight Eisenhower and JFK send federal troops down South to make sure Americans are forced against their will to integrate our public school system.

    1964-1980: Swindle Whites Movement, and The Immigration Reform Act both clearly championed and organized by Jews. Roe vs Wade, feminist movement, affirmative action, hippies tuning out and turning on, Vietnam, crime, etc., etc, the downward spiral is tuned up a notch or two. All this being done with "pro-conservative" and very "white" Presidents, Richard Nixon and later, good ole Ronald Regan (1981-1989) at the helm.


    1981-2008: Crack epidemic, AIDS, major cities turning majority Black, major cities being run by Black mayors, Black police chiefs and the decay is noticeable to even the blind, deaf and dumb. Invasions from our southern border increase noticeably, you now are seeing Mexicans in places like Omaha, Fargo, Nashville, and Little Rock. Movies start really portraying the opposite of reality with their inversion of the truth. REEL is the opposite of REAL, we are treated to fairy tales that feature OJ Simpson saving some blonde woman from evil White KKK members, or the "based on a true story fairy tale" titled, " A Time To Kill" which takes a true story and reverses the race of the victims and perpetrators. Black on White crimes become noticeably more frequent and even more violent, these crimes are also swept under the rug by a dishonest and totally corrupt anti-White media, horrific murders like the Christian-Newsom and Wichita Massacre among countless others garner no attention, while the media continues the REEL vs. REAL charade.

    2008-Present: The transformation of America. America elects its "first Black president" who promises to transform America. Black on White crime increases even more if that is possible. Movies become ridiculously anti-White and in your face with their hatred. History being rewritten, ( but then again, how much of the previous history we were taught was actually true as well), statues being desecrated and torn down, police being attacked, well you see it. It will take a miracle for America to turn it around. We MIGHT be going out with a whimper. I hope not, but it doesn't look good.

    Replies: @JohnPlywood, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @Reg Cæsar

    Extremely low-IQ comment. Black on white crime (and crime in general) has been decreasing for the last 30 years.

    • LOL: Trinity
    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
  186. @Anon
    I don't think Chicago will turn into Detroit, but Cleveland is a distinct possibility.

    Look for an uptick in shootings tomorrow after the blacks get home and start fighting over the loot.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    OneFiveThree, I have family in Cleveland and you don’t see this systematic, organized looting and trashing of the city. Shooting and murder yes, trashing the city no.

  187. Anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Ever since Clinton, the globo neo-libs loved to talk of bridges and more bridges. Building bridges all over the world. And yet, the sudden castle mentality with bridges up and blacks kept out by the river used as moat. But then, it all makes sense why the elites want bridges to other nations. Immigrants are preferable to blacks. Bridge over Troubled Looter.

    • Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @Anonymous

    Man, that is an image we should all save.

    If you have a moat, and a drawbridge, use it!

    Just be sure to use it in time.

    It's almost like borders help keep people safe.

  188. @Stonewall Jackson
    I wonder if the Democrats can put this lunacy back in the bottle once Biden wins. I guess the Soros money for this will dry up, but still, they have voting blocks that are pretty unruly and rioted when even Obama was in office. Baltimore's experience was pretty much what you have seen here. It hasn't participated in the current hysteria because there is nothing left to loot in the dangerous black neighborhoods... and as one city council candidate said ... take that shit to Towson, we need what's left of our businesses here..

    Replies: @bomag, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @AnotherDad, @jon, @Negrolphin Pool

    We need to Wall these Democrat cities off. Democrats–of any color–cause more trouble than Mexicans.

    To get it underway fast, suggest we just jack up northbound lanes of I-294 to vertical.

    Insta-Wall!

    • Replies: @Richard B
    @AnotherDad


    We need to Wall these Democrat cities off. Democrats–of any color–cause more trouble than Mexicans.
     
    It's too late.

    Way too late.

    #RIPUSA
    , @Rob McX
    @AnotherDad


    To get it underway fast, suggest we just jack up northbound lanes of I-294 to vertical.
     
    Stairway to Heaven.
  189. @Jane Plain
    @notsaying


    It looks like a repeat of New York a few months ago — looters pulling up in cars, very organized:

     

    Was it so organized in NYC? I don't think so. This seems way worse.

    Replies: @notsaying

    I saw a tweet from either a New York News or Post reporter who said law enforcement told him that the New York looting was done by gangs. I saw on internet at the time that was bad and it was multiple Manhattan neighborhoods and some of the cars had out of state plates. Given how many people were involved and the speed and efficiency they cleaned out stores, that makes sense to me. In New York on Twitter a lot of people commented on the expensive cars that were used.

    I am not in New York or Chicago so I am not the expert on this. But I am assuming gangs were primarily responsible for what happened in Chicago too. It is disconcerting to say the least to know there is a reserve Army of people in America who are able and willing to come out with no advance notice and target our biggest stores and suck out everything from the smaller ones. This tells me nobody even knows what is happening in the shadows in our own country. We are all just sitting ducks really. When are we ever going to go after the gangs?

    • Replies: @Jane Plain
    @notsaying

    Oh, you saw a tweet?

    In other words, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

    It's a waste of time refuting your points one by one, because none of them hold water.

    The looting was confined to three areas: SoHo, 34th Street, and the Bronx, and in the Bronx, the Dominicans took care of business. The looters were so stupid that they looted Macy's and not Harry Winston. I'm sure you know what Harry Winston is.

    The overwhelming majority of the city was, and is, untouched.

    The real harm has been done to NYC by de Blasio and Cuomo with their overreaction to Covid19.

    Shut up.

  190. @JimDandy
    @The Alarmist

    Consequences have been removed. Kim Foxx, the same she-beast of a State's Attorney who tried to enable Jussie Smollett's malarkey, has essentially de-criminalized crime in Chicago. Chicago's top-columnists, John Kass, wrote about how Soros-backed prosecutors across the country are doing the same thing in America's big cities. He was immediately demoted.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnoRPYhp4R4

    Replies: @Anonymous, @MEH 0910

    Black Sack and white flight?

  191. Just thought I’d pass on this comment from Twitter by T.y @Tybrazil1280:

    I have zero problem with the looting in Chicago.. Racist have stole from us every single fucking day for 400+ years.. IT IS JUSTIFIED

    That’s one. I’d like to know how many more black people believe this.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Anon7

    Ty's grammar is atrocious. It's "[r]acists have stolen..." And those block caps: you can almost smell the tin foil. Ty undermines his argument about retributive justice by leaving the reader with the distinct impression that...he's a Tiny Duck.

    If you're going to be tendentiously racist and profane, at least have the decency to write in standard English.

    , @Colin Wright
    @Anon7

    '... That’s one. I’d like to know how many more black people believe this.'

    Lots. They'll buy into any rationalization for their bullshit -- however lame.

    , @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @Anon7


    . I’d like to know how many more black people believe this.
     
    All of them? Who says no to free stuff?
    , @HammerJack
    @Anon7

    And where did they get this notion ?

    From so-called "scholarship" (nearly all of it Jewish) which filtered through the mass media into their movies and TV shows.

    This is one of the reasons they'd never go back to Africa, despite claiming it's so bad for them here. The Usual Suspects have convinced them that they deserve every penny white people have worked for these past few centuries.

    You see, it'll be a cinch to swindle all of it back from their pets.

  192. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    @Dave Pinsen


    If Biden wins, Dems in Congress can pass a multi-trillion dollar bailout of the states, and Biden will sign it. Maybe they can limp along in that case with high crime but avoid fiscal disaster like Koch-era New York.
     
    This.

    Huge federal bailout is clearly the plan. Basically, the Democrat constituencies--blacks, bureaucrats, the lobbyists, lawyers, consultants, contractors blob, low paid immigrants, single moms, women in soft makework jobs--are parasites. They live off the labors of the highly productive--mostly white guys. (One thing the Xi virus has made clear is that it's a small number of guys working that actually make things function--lights on, food on the shelves, gas for the car.) And increasingly off the accumulated capital--actual and "reputational"--of previous productive generations of Americans.

    In the last decade, the establishment has found that the fed can roll the presses--absent a true replacement/competitor--the dollars status as the world's reserve currency buffers any immediate downside. Free money!

    That's the Democrats plan. Shutdown the economy. Riot away. All their constituencies will get bailed out. Screw the future!

    Who is going to pay for these riots--your children, your grandchildren, your "posterity".

    Replies: @Anonymous

    That’s the Democrats plan. Shutdown the economy. Riot away. All their constituencies will get bailed out. Screw the future!

    Agree, that’s their plan. Won’t work this time. 2020 is the year when the money runs out, securities can’t be sold at a low interest rated, the resources bought with the money raised will be inadequate, the money used will be spent on political disputes rather than what’s needed physically.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous



    That’s the Democrats plan. Shutdown the economy. Riot away. All their constituencies will get bailed out. Screw the future!
     
    Agree, that’s their plan. Won’t work this time. 2020 is the year when the money runs out, securities can’t be sold at a low interest rated, the resources bought with the money raised will be inadequate, the money used will be spent on political disputes rather than what’s needed physically.
     
    Not yet.

    The money really did run out for Britain in 1945, because there was a more credible world reserve currency. But it took a lot of years--the US had thoroughly surpassed Britain in every economic measure over a half century before.

    What's kept life cozy in the US--as our elites trash the joint with "diversity" and government and finance and grifting replacing productive activity--is that there is no credible replacement power/currency.

    Obviously the candidate is China, but they have their own set of issues. Chicom thugs in charge.
    Everything is opaque. Nothing can be trusted. They are still trade oriented. Despite having spent massively on internal improvements it is still not fully an internally driven economy. And instead of cracking the nut of getting to stable eugenic fertility--on which their long term future depends--they are off doing prickling, pissant stuff with Tibet, India, the Uighurs, the Tajiks.

    So until the Chinese get their stuff together ... people are willing to take dollars. And that's not stopping in 2020.

    Biden wins the Democrats are going to be ladled out dollars to their favored constituencies hand over fist. You think you can just mind your own business in your non-diverse redoubt? Wrong. The value of the assets you've built will erode. The value of your income will erode. The future prosperity of the nation will erode. You, your children, your grandchildren, your posterity ... are all going to pay and pay and pay.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Anonymous

  193. @Jack D
    @Buffalo Joe


    This shit would stop if one dem city told their teachers pay cuts were coming because the tax base is shrinking.
     
    That's not the plan. Pelosi has already decided to send trillions in Federal $ to the cities. For now, the Senate and Trump are not going along but after January there's a good chance that it will all be Dem controlled. Who needs a tax base if the Federal Reserve can just print up $? We are in a deflationary environment anyway so no one notices that printing $ is inflationary.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Dave Pinsen, @MBlanc46

    That’s not the plan. Pelosi has already decided to send trillions in Federal $ to the cities. For now, the Senate and Trump are not going along but after January there’s a good chance that it will all be Dem controlled. Who needs a tax base if the Federal Reserve can just print up $? We are in a deflationary environment anyway so no one notices that printing $ is inflationary.

    Exactly. Spot on Jack.

    The plan is to piss away America’s good will, the Dollar’s status as world’s reserve currency or children’s future … to bail out the Democrats’ destruction and incompetence.

    Trump, Republicans need to fight this tooth and nail.

    Insist that all the federal relief money goes to the people.

    Make Democrat states and cities tax it from them if they want to spend it.

    The Democrats want to break the connection between good governance, taxes, quality of life. Essentially bail out people who elect spendthrift, incompetent, and rule-of-law destroying Democrats.

    Republicans need to learn about this thing called “politics”. This is a hill to fight and die on. If Republicans don’t fight, they’ll die.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @hhsiii
    @AnotherDad

    I gotta say that NY, while being tax and spend, was actually fairly balanced at the State level. The pension is much better funded than NJ, for example (although that's not the State's budget). New York, for whatever Cuomo and DeBlasio's faults in dealing with Covid (and it seems people want it both ways, that they acted too slowly, but were also too draconian), and well, anything else, one should acknowedge a bit of this is a bit the nature of the beast. It's a packed city, massive subway system, lots of international and national travel through it. The Feds ARE giving trilions not just "to the people" but also to corporations.

    I know a lot of people will just say good riddance to the blue cities. But I don't see why they should just be ceded or allowed to melt down. And for years NY has been a net contributor to the feds (ok, so just feeding a different beast).

    Ultimately there'll be horse-trading on this I imagine. Maybe post-election either way.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @HammerJack

    , @Ben tillman
    @AnotherDad

    Piss away America’s goodwill? Sounds like a bust-out.

  194. @Cloudbuster
    @Anonymous

    ...after the 2019 Presidential elections.

    Man, I totally missed the 2019 Presidential elections!

    Replies: @Anonymous

    …after the 2019 Presidential elections.

    Sorry, that’s a typo. Of course it should read “…after the 2020 Presidential elections.”

  195. Anon[119] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    @The Alarmist


    The only thing about Chicago on Drudge at the moment...
     
    Do you ever get the feeling Drudge's editorial decisions are influenced by whoever is his latest boyfriend?

    Replies: @Anon

    It appears that Drudge’s earlier, and better news-reporting phase was being made by a smart editor who has since quit, and the new hire is a leftist bozo. I doubt Drudge ever really bothered putting much of his own work into his website, except for the celebrity gossip (always an obsession with gay guys), and the news section is something he ignores because he doesn’t really understand or care about politics. Gay guys don’t really ‘get’ politics. It’s like very advanced math to them.

  196. @Lot
    The Chicago looting is article 17 on the mobile NYT site and has 2 photos, neither showing the looting. Ranked higher: an article about what the “sexting” former congresswoman Katie Hill is up to these days, something about “mansplaining,” and articles about Mark Cuban and McDonalds suing its former CEO.

    It is the top article on Daily Mail, with 65 photos, including dramatic pics of a smashed and stripped bare Apple Store, a raised bridge to block access to downtown, and lots of looting in progress images.

    Replies: @notsaying

    The Daily Mail is great for providing lots of pictures and often has details other places don’t. I checked them out early this morning though and they had nothing about the looting. Neither did the Chicago Tribune; those newspaper staffing cuts obviously have gone deep when you don’t even have a banner at the top of the page announcing major events like this looting. It was sad to see.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @notsaying

    Yep, they also have mugshots of BIPOC offenders in their crime articles, which the US media rarely does.

    They’re somewhat anti-Trump however.

    , @Lurker
    @notsaying

    In 2014 they were the only news outlet to publish a photo of a white cuck, sorry protestor, shot by his fellow black protestors.

    In fact I think they may have been the only English language outlet to cover the story at all. They didn't identify him but the photo gave the game away.

    For me it was a key event - it destroyed The Narrative in a near-perfect manner.

    I could never find out any more on the story, it's like it never happened! Still, I'm sure six years is enough time for him to have recovered and demonstrate all over again about police brutality this summer.

  197. @Trinity
    Timeline Of America's Decline
    1945: "America" helps free the world from "fascism" and Hitler ( try not to laugh.)

    1946 - 1964: Hollywood turns the anti-White propaganda up a notch and starts encouraging race mixing with movies like, "The House I Live In" starring Frank Sinatra, "To Kill A Mockingbird" starring Gregory Peck, "To Sir With Love" & "Guess Who's Coming To Dinner" with Sidney Poitier, etc. FORCED INTEGRATION of schools in the South. Patriotic American Presidents Dwight Eisenhower and JFK send federal troops down South to make sure Americans are forced against their will to integrate our public school system.

    1964-1980: Swindle Whites Movement, and The Immigration Reform Act both clearly championed and organized by Jews. Roe vs Wade, feminist movement, affirmative action, hippies tuning out and turning on, Vietnam, crime, etc., etc, the downward spiral is tuned up a notch or two. All this being done with "pro-conservative" and very "white" Presidents, Richard Nixon and later, good ole Ronald Regan (1981-1989) at the helm.


    1981-2008: Crack epidemic, AIDS, major cities turning majority Black, major cities being run by Black mayors, Black police chiefs and the decay is noticeable to even the blind, deaf and dumb. Invasions from our southern border increase noticeably, you now are seeing Mexicans in places like Omaha, Fargo, Nashville, and Little Rock. Movies start really portraying the opposite of reality with their inversion of the truth. REEL is the opposite of REAL, we are treated to fairy tales that feature OJ Simpson saving some blonde woman from evil White KKK members, or the "based on a true story fairy tale" titled, " A Time To Kill" which takes a true story and reverses the race of the victims and perpetrators. Black on White crimes become noticeably more frequent and even more violent, these crimes are also swept under the rug by a dishonest and totally corrupt anti-White media, horrific murders like the Christian-Newsom and Wichita Massacre among countless others garner no attention, while the media continues the REEL vs. REAL charade.

    2008-Present: The transformation of America. America elects its "first Black president" who promises to transform America. Black on White crime increases even more if that is possible. Movies become ridiculously anti-White and in your face with their hatred. History being rewritten, ( but then again, how much of the previous history we were taught was actually true as well), statues being desecrated and torn down, police being attacked, well you see it. It will take a miracle for America to turn it around. We MIGHT be going out with a whimper. I hope not, but it doesn't look good.

    Replies: @JohnPlywood, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @Reg Cæsar

    We must listen to John Lennon,who unwittingly gave it all away: The dream is over!

  198. It’s just plain, old-fashioned terrorism. They are proposing an implicit deal to the electorate: Vote Democrat and we’ll stop the violence.

    I think most people get the message: if Trump wins, there will be hella rioting, but if Trump loses, it’s hard to imagine them either 1) mustering up the energy to keep this going, or 2) having any desire to keep it going, since they’d be protesting against a government that is now in their control.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @anon.

    I think it's important for Steve and everyone else to realize.

    Whites don't care about Black Looting.

    We do care about statue desecrationl, weird stuff like Chaz/Chop, and blacks letting of Fireworks and black violence.

    But a bit of looting is just good, clean fun all around.

  199. @Colin Wright
    'What exactly are the Democrats thinking? Do they assume all this rioting and looting is just part of their plot to depose Trump, so as soon as he is gone, the rioters and looters will go home? Or do they figure that as long as they control the media, nobody will notice all the boarded up windows on Michigan Avenue, the most expensive shopping street between the coasts?'

    They can just let the cops off the leash.

    The blacks will get the message quick enough; at least, I imagine that's the assumption.

    Replies: @Whiskey

    Cops are gone and won’t be coming back. Not in the next thirty years. People respond to incentives. Darren Wilson, Chauvin and the cops in Baltimore all ruined and it charged will have them guaranteed driving and waving for more than two generations.

    People are not light switches. No cop will ever trust any promises made by any politician. EVer.

    Chicago and NYC are just another Detroit now. As I repeatedly predicted.

    Cities are over.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Whiskey


    ... cop will ever trust any promises made by any politician.
     
    that's the funniest thing I've heard in weeks -- a cop trusting a promise by a politician! I'll have to remember that one.
  200. @notsaying
    @Lot

    The Daily Mail is great for providing lots of pictures and often has details other places don't. I checked them out early this morning though and they had nothing about the looting. Neither did the Chicago Tribune; those newspaper staffing cuts obviously have gone deep when you don't even have a banner at the top of the page announcing major events like this looting. It was sad to see.

    Replies: @Lot, @Lurker

    Yep, they also have mugshots of BIPOC offenders in their crime articles, which the US media rarely does.

    They’re somewhat anti-Trump however.

  201. In Chicago, Protests Erupt After Police Shot A 20-Year-Old Black Man

    Excerpt:

    “Yesterday there was an act of state violence targeting a Black youth in the disinvested Englewood community,” Brendan Shiller, a criminal defense lawyer in the city, tweeted on Monday morning. “In response, Black youth protested by targeting property emblematic of wealth inequality & disinvestment. Their response was more peaceful than the violence that begot it.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/in-chicago-protests-erupt-after-police-shot-a-20-year-old-black-man/ar-BB17NhV8?li=AAggNb9

  202. @anon
    Kamala Harris died:

    https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1292619169431658496

    Replies: @Henry's Cat, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @Reg Cæsar, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @Duke84

    Almost all of the crime in Chicago is committed by the African population.If it was an all white city it would be virtually crime free.

  203. @Jack D
    @Buffalo Joe


    This shit would stop if one dem city told their teachers pay cuts were coming because the tax base is shrinking.
     
    That's not the plan. Pelosi has already decided to send trillions in Federal $ to the cities. For now, the Senate and Trump are not going along but after January there's a good chance that it will all be Dem controlled. Who needs a tax base if the Federal Reserve can just print up $? We are in a deflationary environment anyway so no one notices that printing $ is inflationary.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Dave Pinsen, @MBlanc46

    “…We are in a deflationary environment anyway…”

    The words “deflation” and “inflation” have very different meanings for our ruling class and the rest of us. I and almost everyone I know sense that we are in an inflationary environment because the prices of food, clothing, rent, utilities, etc., are rising much more rapidly than our incomes for at least the last decade and the divergence is increasing. Our rulers worry about what they call deflation, which is basically nothing more than a diminution of their ability to batten off the economy by robbing the rest of us.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  204. @AnotherDad
    @Stonewall Jackson

    We need to Wall these Democrat cities off. Democrats--of any color--cause more trouble than Mexicans.

    To get it underway fast, suggest we just jack up northbound lanes of I-294 to vertical.

    Insta-Wall!

    Replies: @Richard B, @Rob McX

    We need to Wall these Democrat cities off. Democrats–of any color–cause more trouble than Mexicans.

    It’s too late.

    Way too late.

    #RIPUSA

  205. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    That’s not the plan. Pelosi has already decided to send trillions in Federal $ to the cities. For now, the Senate and Trump are not going along but after January there’s a good chance that it will all be Dem controlled. Who needs a tax base if the Federal Reserve can just print up $? We are in a deflationary environment anyway so no one notices that printing $ is inflationary.
     
    Exactly. Spot on Jack.

    The plan is to piss away America's good will, the Dollar's status as world's reserve currency or children's future ... to bail out the Democrats' destruction and incompetence.

    Trump, Republicans need to fight this tooth and nail.

    Insist that all the federal relief money goes to the people.

    Make Democrat states and cities tax it from them if they want to spend it.

    The Democrats want to break the connection between good governance, taxes, quality of life. Essentially bail out people who elect spendthrift, incompetent, and rule-of-law destroying Democrats.

    Republicans need to learn about this thing called "politics". This is a hill to fight and die on. If Republicans don't fight, they'll die.

    Replies: @hhsiii, @Ben tillman

    I gotta say that NY, while being tax and spend, was actually fairly balanced at the State level. The pension is much better funded than NJ, for example (although that’s not the State’s budget). New York, for whatever Cuomo and DeBlasio’s faults in dealing with Covid (and it seems people want it both ways, that they acted too slowly, but were also too draconian), and well, anything else, one should acknowedge a bit of this is a bit the nature of the beast. It’s a packed city, massive subway system, lots of international and national travel through it. The Feds ARE giving trilions not just “to the people” but also to corporations.

    I know a lot of people will just say good riddance to the blue cities. But I don’t see why they should just be ceded or allowed to melt down. And for years NY has been a net contributor to the feds (ok, so just feeding a different beast).

    Ultimately there’ll be horse-trading on this I imagine. Maybe post-election either way.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @hhsiii

    It was just a couple of years ago that the GOP finally collapsed and lost the NY State Senate -- they had kept the libs from going completely crazy but now that speed bump is gone and criminals can't get dumped back on the street fast enough.

    , @HammerJack
    @hhsiii

    Pelosi and Schumer are holding up the corona relief bill demanding another trillion dollars for democrat states and cities. They'll happily let millions starve and get evicted because they know that the media will blame Trump.


    https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/debt-by-state

  206. Chicago needs an emergency cut-off switch for Facebook, Google, Twitter, and Instagram.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    @JimB

    Like they evidently have in Belarus.

  207. @anon
    @The Alarmist

    are they at least wearing masks?

    I can't tell for sure, but it looks like the looting is mostly peaceful.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    What do you suppose will happen when #BLM collides intersects with #MeToo ? My money says Black Trumps Womyn.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @The Alarmist

    Intersectionality not looking too good in England...

    First transgender newsreader wants a fence to keep out immigrants.

  208. @anon
    NYT: Blacks got trolled by Russians, that's why Hillary lost

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfBeU0mXYAA37pG.jpg:small

    New York Times reporter Nicole Perlroth has finally gotten to the bottom of why black Americans didn't get excited about Hillary Clinton's 2016 candidacy for president: Russian trolls.

    "We don't talk about this enough, and it has been lost in the 2016 election hot takes," Perlroth said Sunday on Twitter. "While 2016 saw record turnout, it also saw record decline in black voter turnout – the biggest decline in 20 years. Blacks were the number one demographic Russian trolls targeted on social media. (RT)
     

    Previously in the NYT...

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfB6KphVAAA1cek.jpg

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    Luftmensch Perlroth just pulls a brand new lie out of the Air to suit her purposes.

  209. @Testing12
    Why is there a naive assumption that democrats want to ever bottle this back up? Hasnt it ever been more clear that their goal is the destruction of our country? This is not hyperbole

    Replies: @Buck Ransom

    The vibrant individuals now at play in Chicago and their clones elsewhere simply want USA to stand for: Unother South Africa.

  210. @Buck Ransom
    @The Alarmist

    Looks like a whole lot of folks had to pull themselves away from table-building to participate in this event.

    Replies: @anon

    Looks like a whole lot of folks had to pull themselves away from table-building to participate in this event.

    Probably they were just comparing table designs, and picking up a few samples.

  211. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    So many negative black stereotypes.

    It’s as if they aren’t stereotypes, but rather, a matter of fact, and they lean into it as if they indeed know what they are, and love it.

    Question for debate: How can a modern western society shame a swamp-running negro?

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
    @Anonymous

    "Let's see, this says Valentino. This says Dolce and Gabbana."
    Such a fashionable apostle of Saint George, just oozing her passion for social justice.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Anonymous

    OneEightSix, wish one of these ass hats last words were..."I fucked up !"

    Replies: @Kronos

  212. @Kolya Krassotkin
    @James Speaks

    What would whites loot from black stores? Weaves? High end sneakers? Grills, platform shoes, cheap bling?

    Nah. I just can't imagine it.

    Replies: @Kronos

    Oh but I can…

    • LOL: Kolya Krassotkin
  213. Chicago is having problems with law enforcement in general. There’s a big article over at the Daily Mail based on a Chicago Tribune analysis.

    “REVEALED: Top Chicago prosecutor Kim Foxx’s office has dismissed more than 25,000 felony cases – including murders, shootings, sexual assaults and Jussie Smollett’s ‘hoax’ attack”

    “Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx dropped charges against 29.9% of felony defendants during her first three years in office, the Chicago Tribune found”

    “Foxx’s case dismissal rate is more than 35% higher than that of her predecessor”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8612317/Cook-County-prosecutor-Kim-Foxx-dismissed-25-000-felony-cases-including-Jussie-Smollett.html

    • Replies: @anon
    @notsaying

    Chicago is having problems with law enforcement in general.

    Problems?

    “REVEALED: Top Chicago prosecutor Kim Foxx’s office has dismissed more than 25,000 felony cases – including murders, shootings, sexual assaults and Jussie Smollett’s ‘hoax’ attack”“Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx dropped charges against 29.9% of felony defendants during her first three years in office, the Chicago Tribune found”

    What problems? I don't see problems. Where you see problems? You think this is a mistake, an accident, that Foxx isn't doing exactly what she's supposed to do?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWILhrSzw5o

  214. @Anon7
    @James Speaks

    Looking at these videos, I see what appears to be white hands wielding axes and breaking windows, as well as "rioters" or "looters" dressed head to toe in black with gas masks and helmets. Antifa?

    In the case of what are obviously unprepared black looters, smh. So much for free K-12 schooling, free lunches, welfare. You're welcome.

    The only way we'll ever know anything is to have a massive police or troop presence surrounding an area, moving in to arrest everyone on the street. Then, sort them out.

    Are any of them nearby residents? Where do they come from? Black looters, white antifa? Are any of them paid or subsidized to be there? American citizens? We can't know until we test.

    Replies: @BB753

    You’re bound to find policemen and FBI agents in the lot.

  215. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, Apple is hosting Black women empowerment roundtables for their Apple Music subscribers, featuring successful Black women's tips and tricks for young black women just starting out to reach professional goals.

    Kind of the professional black female version of Jordan Peterson:

    https://twitter.com/sukihanagoat/status/1291778515285749760?s=20

    https://twitter.com/sukihanagoat/status/1291787002560614400?s=20

    Replies: @El Dato, @Clyde, @Saxon, @carol, @Cloudbuster, @Anonymous, @BB753, @Kibernetika

    “Hoes have evolved”, she says. She’s a true believer in HBD! LOL!

  216. @Steve Richter
    @Harry Baldwin


    What do you think he should do? Any action he takes is characterized as dictatorial, authoritarian, fascistic, etc.
     
    he could visit the problem areas, make appearances on local TV and radio, ask people what they think should be done, ask how the violence has affected them.

    Have the DOJ impanel a grand jury tasked to find out why police protection was withheld from neighborhoods, people in need. There must be a constitutional violation committed when a mayor denies police protection to citizens.

    Have a grand jury investigate why some political groups are allowed to pull down statutes and spray paint political slogans when other groups are denied that right.

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    Those are good ideas.

  217. How the treated looters in the old days.

    “A Newark policeman stands over a dead body of 24-year-old William Furr, whom he just shotgunned for stealing a six-pack of beer from the looted Mack Liquors store during the 1967 Newark riots. Taken by photographer Bud Lee for LIFE magazine. (July 15, 1967) [486 x 780]”

    • Agree: bruce county
    • Thanks: Kronos
    • Replies: @lavoisier
    @Cloudswrest

    A bit extreme I would think.

    Using a shotgun is a sure way to kill someone.

    And just for stealing some beer?

    Replies: @bruce county, @Known Fact

  218. According to Conservative Inc, this is all being driving by Marxism. These are Marxists! There is nothing else distinguishable or predictive at any of these looters.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @OscarWildeLoveChild


    According to Conservative Inc, this is all being driving by Marxism. These are Marxists! There is nothing else distinguishable or predictive at any of these looters.
     
    Well, a large portion of them are neither black nor Jewish. Something else must be "distinguishable" and "predictive" about them, if not Marxism.

    I know-- they're all Democrats! Mainstream ones, at that.

    Considering the party's record, from ethnic cleansing to nuclear holocaust, I'd say these riots are fairly tame in comparison.
    , @Allen
    @OscarWildeLoveChild

    Well, many of the Conservative Inc. writers are equating the entire BLM "movement" with Marxism, (something fairly easy to do since the BLM founders actually called themselves Marxists). Therefore, condemning Marxism gives them a safe way to condemn BLM as a whole without the risk of being called racist. While I would appreciate more honesty, they are at least indirectly attacking BLM.

  219. @Enemy of Earth
    Mayor Tanglefoot is expounding at a live presser right now. The chief of police just talked real tough about how the CPD was not going to allow attacks on cops or Chicago businesses. The Mayor is now explaining how this latest expression of Black urban sports was not legitimate 1st Amendment protesting or poor folks taking stuff so they could feed their families. Some alderman is speaking now reminding us Chicago is still a world class city. Wonder of wonders, He just called the participants "looters."

    Some walking advert for birth control shoots at cops in Englewood. Cops return fire wounding the poor, oppressed black man. Other oppressed POC organize road trip to downtown Chicago. CPD caught wind of this, attempted to deploy officers but were not in time.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Some alderman is speaking now reminding us Chicago is still a world class city. Wonder of wonders, He just called the participants “looters.”

    Brendan Reilly, Near North Side, I bet.

    • Replies: @LMD
    @Hibernian

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/150-shots-fired-in-portland-a-single-incident-but-that-had-n/

  220. @Anon7
    Just thought I'd pass on this comment from Twitter by T.y @Tybrazil1280:

    I have zero problem with the looting in Chicago.. Racist have stole from us every single fucking day for 400+ years.. IT IS JUSTIFIED
     
    That's one. I'd like to know how many more black people believe this.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @Colin Wright, @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @HammerJack

    Ty’s grammar is atrocious. It’s “[r]acists have stolen…” And those block caps: you can almost smell the tin foil. Ty undermines his argument about retributive justice by leaving the reader with the distinct impression that…he’s a Tiny Duck.

    If you’re going to be tendentiously racist and profane, at least have the decency to write in standard English.

  221. Lightfoot and even Jesse Jackson are condemning the looting now.

    Tough luck guys.

    Soros and dems made a calculation that they could take advantage of some real or imagined police outrage for some righteous political gains.

    Some black people in Chicago made a calculation that they could take advantage of some real or imagined police outrage for some righteous Vuitton haul.

    Same, same.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @wren

    wren, Lightfoot has let this civil disobedience go for so long that I think Obama himself could not reverse this. Of course Obama stirred this pot mightily when he was president.

  222. @Ron Mexico
    @Reg Cæsar

    Joe will probably think the CA Senator has died. No one tell him.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Joe will probably think the CA Senator has died. No one tell him.

    Cross your fingers:

    Kamala Harris would be Biden’s worst pick if he wants to win

  223. @El Dato
    @Andrew M

    The US left no breathing space between the blast and the announcement that "people yearn to break free" and "someone must go" (complete with Twitter applause by various individuals, I reckon these are sockpuppets or Lebanese can remember 2006 when someone had to go and the subsequent birth pangs of a New Middle East turned out to be tremendous)

    A color revolution is coming to ease out Hezbollah.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    I don’t know if Hezbollah has changed in the last couple of decades, but the old Hezbollah was not the kind of organization anyone is going to ease out. Easing them out would have worked as well as easing the Red Army out of Stalingrad. The whole Israeli military tried to drive Hezbollah out with a frontal attack and failed. That old Hezbollah would have to have degraded quite a bit if they are now in an “ease-outable” condition.

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @Alfa158

    Not really. Israel tried a stupid tank unsupported by infantry assault of positions fortified for months. This went as well as Tarawa and Iwo Jima with the same end result just smaller scale.

    Hezbollah meanwhile has been greatly attrition degraded by the fighting in Syria as Assad’s forces essentially collapsed. The only effective fighting force midway until the Russians entered after Assad’s collapse on Assad’s side the casualties have been very large. Ground troops unsupported by air and armor and artillery suffer greatly. Even against Isis.

    The political situation in Lebanon reflects lots of dead Shia men in Syria fighting for Assad.

  224. @Robert Dolan
    @Reg Cæsar

    This excuse is lame because they call him a racist no matter what he does, so it doesn't matter.

    I hate the lawlessness and it should be stopped. It should not have been allowed to go on.

    Barr could shut it down but I think he's actually covering for the left. In any case he's spineless as the rest of the stupid GOP.

    So many say, "Who cares it's a blue city?" This is asinine on so many levels. First of all people are being assaulted and murdered. And not every single person in the "blue city" is going to be a Democrat or a non-white.

    Someone will have to pay for all of that destruction and it will wind up being the hard working white taxpayers.

    In any case, allowing the lawlessness makes a mockery of our country. It's anarcho-tyranny and the laws are selectively enforced. Whites have to follow the law and are not even allowed to defend themselves, while BLM and Antifa are free to rape and rob and pillage.

    This is no way to run a country. All decent people recoil from this chaos and violence.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    I hate the lawlessness and it should be stopped. It should not have been allowed to go on

    True, but Trump is neither a mayor nor a governor. They’re the derelicts, not Donald.

  225. @Trinity
    Timeline Of America's Decline
    1945: "America" helps free the world from "fascism" and Hitler ( try not to laugh.)

    1946 - 1964: Hollywood turns the anti-White propaganda up a notch and starts encouraging race mixing with movies like, "The House I Live In" starring Frank Sinatra, "To Kill A Mockingbird" starring Gregory Peck, "To Sir With Love" & "Guess Who's Coming To Dinner" with Sidney Poitier, etc. FORCED INTEGRATION of schools in the South. Patriotic American Presidents Dwight Eisenhower and JFK send federal troops down South to make sure Americans are forced against their will to integrate our public school system.

    1964-1980: Swindle Whites Movement, and The Immigration Reform Act both clearly championed and organized by Jews. Roe vs Wade, feminist movement, affirmative action, hippies tuning out and turning on, Vietnam, crime, etc., etc, the downward spiral is tuned up a notch or two. All this being done with "pro-conservative" and very "white" Presidents, Richard Nixon and later, good ole Ronald Regan (1981-1989) at the helm.


    1981-2008: Crack epidemic, AIDS, major cities turning majority Black, major cities being run by Black mayors, Black police chiefs and the decay is noticeable to even the blind, deaf and dumb. Invasions from our southern border increase noticeably, you now are seeing Mexicans in places like Omaha, Fargo, Nashville, and Little Rock. Movies start really portraying the opposite of reality with their inversion of the truth. REEL is the opposite of REAL, we are treated to fairy tales that feature OJ Simpson saving some blonde woman from evil White KKK members, or the "based on a true story fairy tale" titled, " A Time To Kill" which takes a true story and reverses the race of the victims and perpetrators. Black on White crimes become noticeably more frequent and even more violent, these crimes are also swept under the rug by a dishonest and totally corrupt anti-White media, horrific murders like the Christian-Newsom and Wichita Massacre among countless others garner no attention, while the media continues the REEL vs. REAL charade.

    2008-Present: The transformation of America. America elects its "first Black president" who promises to transform America. Black on White crime increases even more if that is possible. Movies become ridiculously anti-White and in your face with their hatred. History being rewritten, ( but then again, how much of the previous history we were taught was actually true as well), statues being desecrated and torn down, police being attacked, well you see it. It will take a miracle for America to turn it around. We MIGHT be going out with a whimper. I hope not, but it doesn't look good.

    Replies: @JohnPlywood, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @Reg Cæsar

    1964-1980: Swindle Whites Movement, and The Immigration Reform Act both clearly championed and organized by Jews.

    You left out Epperson v Arkansas. Jews, i.e. the ACLU, were even more involved in that one.

    Somebody had it in for the people of Arkansas.

  226. HUGE IF TRUE
    This link purports to be the New York City Public School System’s plan for the upcoming school year. The letters B, L and M show up a lot.
    archive here http://archive.is/wip/oJ88S
    original link – https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LGslwJwhXvpVnDgw0uC-n794l6EGzpuH

  227. No Steve, the Democrats / Biden handlers have NO INTENTION of turning this off.

    1. This is a brilliant move, it gets blacks out to vote for Joe, in big numbers, on the loot and street reparations platform.

    2. Looting and such is the natural and inevitable outcome of the Civil Rights Act, and indeed represents in totality King’s dream. It is what nearly all black people want and what they will get — the right and ability to loot whatever they want whenever they want. Coming soon to your house Whitey!

    3. This looting is tremendously popular. With people who matter. We do NOT NOT NOT live in a Democracy. But rather the Dictatorship … of the Managerialiat . Who LOVE this stuff. It provides excitement. Color and vibrancy the way the homeless do and why the homeless are loved in every urban area. Voting does not matter. If a judge decides Trump is not President — guess what Trump is not President. Or if a General decides. Then Trump is removed and say Hillary! or someone like that installed. We do NOT have democracy. Your vote counts for NOTHING.

    Just as your life and your person count for NOTHING, under the Civil Rights Act which is the LAW. Under this act, and countless ones hammered onto it extending it to government and corporations, only the lives of White people who act as White canceling Bureaucrats matter. And even then far less than St. George Floyd the Holy Redeemer. Chocalate Jesus 2.0. See every White woman under 75 weeping in devotion. Kneeling and praying.

    WHEN not if Biden takes office, he and his handlers and successors will simply move to put all White men in various labor camps and skim off part of the profits to keep cities going. That’s the plan. The looting and violence will never stop. It can’t stop. Even if Dems wanted to — no cops would ever ever trust them. No feds would deploy. And the military already vetoed Trump’s plan and they will certainly veto any Dem plan. Every city and suburb will look like Detroit / Beirut, and most of the suburbs a giant low level burnt out slum. Rural areas will be shoot and shovel up.

  228. @AnotherDad
    @Stonewall Jackson

    We need to Wall these Democrat cities off. Democrats--of any color--cause more trouble than Mexicans.

    To get it underway fast, suggest we just jack up northbound lanes of I-294 to vertical.

    Insta-Wall!

    Replies: @Richard B, @Rob McX

    To get it underway fast, suggest we just jack up northbound lanes of I-294 to vertical.

    Stairway to Heaven.

  229. @Ragno
    Granted this is what we're all thinking, but it needs to be said - shouted! - out loud:

    KILL ANTIFA. KILL LOOTING BLACKS. SHOOT THEM INDISCRIMINATELY, AND JAIL THE SURVIVORS.

    And shoot a few "legacy" journalists. For luck.

    Dumbass Negroes were actually repairing their public image while white antifa besieged Portland and Seattle. My God - they really are as stupid as they look.

    Replies: @Old Palo Altan

    Sure, but these are but the flimsiest foot-soldiers of the Revolution.

    The bitter fog of Endless Sleep must seep into the fortresses of Wall Street, the Bank of England, the Vatican, and whatever high tower holds the Eye of Soros.

  230. anon[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @notsaying
    Chicago is having problems with law enforcement in general. There's a big article over at the Daily Mail based on a Chicago Tribune analysis.

    "REVEALED: Top Chicago prosecutor Kim Foxx's office has dismissed more than 25,000 felony cases - including murders, shootings, sexual assaults and Jussie Smollett's 'hoax' attack"

    "Cook County State's Attorney Kim Foxx dropped charges against 29.9% of felony defendants during her first three years in office, the Chicago Tribune found"

    "Foxx's case dismissal rate is more than 35% higher than that of her predecessor"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8612317/Cook-County-prosecutor-Kim-Foxx-dismissed-25-000-felony-cases-including-Jussie-Smollett.html

    Replies: @anon

    Chicago is having problems with law enforcement in general.

    Problems?

    “REVEALED: Top Chicago prosecutor Kim Foxx’s office has dismissed more than 25,000 felony cases – including murders, shootings, sexual assaults and Jussie Smollett’s ‘hoax’ attack”“Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx dropped charges against 29.9% of felony defendants during her first three years in office, the Chicago Tribune found”

    What problems? I don’t see problems. Where you see problems? You think this is a mistake, an accident, that Foxx isn’t doing exactly what she’s supposed to do?

    • Agree: Alice
  231. @R.G. Camara
    @TomSchmidt

    It took 30+ years (1960-1993) for NYC lefties to admit their mistakes to themselves and grudgingly vote in law-and-order Giuliani---and that was even in the face of fierce opposition and cries of "fascism". Although, to be fair, Ed Koch and David Dinkins both embraced more centrist social policies, with Dinkins being the one who started (in a small way) Broken Windows.

    And NYCers never admitted they were wrong to anyone else---people denied voting for Giuliani, and NYCers didn't blame any of their previous commie actions as bad or evil at all. Even the ones who fled denied it---Brooklyn-born Bernie Sanders fled to Vermont and still screamed for the very socialism that destroyed NYC.

    It's going to take a long time, I believe, before NYC lefties who stay ever admit to themselves that yeah, constantly playing into the blacks-as-victims, police-are-evil thing was a bad plan. I think it'll be at least 10 years before they even hint to elect a strong law-and-order candidate. Thus I predict De Blasio's successor will continue these policies.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

    It’s going to take a long time, I believe, before NYC lefties who stay ever admit to themselves that yeah, constantly playing into the blacks-as-victims, police-are-evil thing was a bad plan. I think it’ll be at least 10 years before they even hint to elect a strong law-and-order candidate. Thus I predict De Blasio’s successor will continue these policies.

    Recall that the white working and middle classes were more prominent when Giuliani was first elected. The city is a lot less “real” in what it does, even since then. If you make your money on film, or moving numbers in a spreadsheet, you’re a lot more disconnected from reality than people who have to deal with reality in their jobs. The city is symbolic manipulators at the top and non-working receivers at the bottom, and none of them give a fig about what happens.

    Of course, we have had the 70s in 6 months this year. Except for the budget crisis, which is coming. Will DeBlasio cut the cops and services for the middle classes to save pork for the poor? Given how recently things were pretty good, I expect the next mayor to be expected to bring back the good times.

    I thought inMarch that the city would take years to return to where it was inJanuary. I don’t think it will ever get back there now.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @TomSchmidt

    The problem is like Detroit, Newark, Camden, etc. :

    At certain point, unless stopped in time, Leftist insanity drives out so many non-black folks and then all the rational Talented Tenthers and middle-class acting blacks, that the only thing that remains are the 85% of blacks who believe everything is racist or are too afraid/race loyal to stamp out the bad blacks, or the pathetic hangers-on lefties in complete denial about everything.

    And then the far-left political leaders just lay back, promise the most pork, and blame the police and racism for all the problems, and get elected. And anyone who tries to move in gets hit with huge taxes and blamed for all problems. Hipsters trying to colonize Detroit all but give up after a bit and leave Detroit because the black pols don't cut them any slack and blame them for all the wrongs, even if they just moved in.

    Things have been moving at such a rapid rate, we might actually be reaching that point in many smaller cities. Thanks to the internet, people are seeing those riot videos despite the corporate media's best efforts to deny anything bad is going on. The stories on Twitter of a mass exodus from cities are coming as rapidly as the stories of riots.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

  232. @The Alarmist
    @anon

    What do you suppose will happen when #BLM collides intersects with #MeToo ? My money says Black Trumps Womyn.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    Intersectionality not looking too good in England…

    First transgender newsreader wants a fence to keep out immigrants.

  233. @Alfa158
    @El Dato

    I don’t know if Hezbollah has changed in the last couple of decades, but the old Hezbollah was not the kind of organization anyone is going to ease out. Easing them out would have worked as well as easing the Red Army out of Stalingrad. The whole Israeli military tried to drive Hezbollah out with a frontal attack and failed. That old Hezbollah would have to have degraded quite a bit if they are now in an “ease-outable” condition.

    Replies: @Whiskey

    Not really. Israel tried a stupid tank unsupported by infantry assault of positions fortified for months. This went as well as Tarawa and Iwo Jima with the same end result just smaller scale.

    Hezbollah meanwhile has been greatly attrition degraded by the fighting in Syria as Assad’s forces essentially collapsed. The only effective fighting force midway until the Russians entered after Assad’s collapse on Assad’s side the casualties have been very large. Ground troops unsupported by air and armor and artillery suffer greatly. Even against Isis.

    The political situation in Lebanon reflects lots of dead Shia men in Syria fighting for Assad.

  234. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robert Dolan
    @Reg Cæsar

    This excuse is lame because they call him a racist no matter what he does, so it doesn't matter.

    I hate the lawlessness and it should be stopped. It should not have been allowed to go on.

    Barr could shut it down but I think he's actually covering for the left. In any case he's spineless as the rest of the stupid GOP.

    So many say, "Who cares it's a blue city?" This is asinine on so many levels. First of all people are being assaulted and murdered. And not every single person in the "blue city" is going to be a Democrat or a non-white.

    Someone will have to pay for all of that destruction and it will wind up being the hard working white taxpayers.

    In any case, allowing the lawlessness makes a mockery of our country. It's anarcho-tyranny and the laws are selectively enforced. Whites have to follow the law and are not even allowed to defend themselves, while BLM and Antifa are free to rape and rob and pillage.

    This is no way to run a country. All decent people recoil from this chaos and violence.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    I don’t recoil from the looting.

    I’m tired of being overcharged for shit that costs pennies to make in China. I have 0 loyalty to any of these brands and I have 0 sympathy for the white women working low wage fashion jobs that will find themselves unemployed as a result of lost profits.

    It’s not like handmaid leather goods from Grandma Alba in Italy.

    As far as I’m concerned, I wish it were whites Gettin’ Some. At least the blacks are Gettin’ Theirs.

    I do recoil from CHAZ/CHOP and Statue Desecration. That’s Sick. And that was done by some pretty messed up whites and (()).

  235. @anon.
    It's just plain, old-fashioned terrorism. They are proposing an implicit deal to the electorate: Vote Democrat and we'll stop the violence.

    I think most people get the message: if Trump wins, there will be hella rioting, but if Trump loses, it's hard to imagine them either 1) mustering up the energy to keep this going, or 2) having any desire to keep it going, since they'd be protesting against a government that is now in their control.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I think it’s important for Steve and everyone else to realize.

    Whites don’t care about Black Looting.

    We do care about statue desecrationl, weird stuff like Chaz/Chop, and blacks letting of Fireworks and black violence.

    But a bit of looting is just good, clean fun all around.

  236. @Harry Baldwin
    @Dave Pinsen

    Scott Adams has raised an interesting point. In some of the cities that have experienced severe looting and arson, such as Minneapolis, Seattle, and Portland, the mayors have kept the police from taking aggressive action to stop it. So, in the future, how will people who operate businesses in those cities be able to get insurance? How can an insurance company write a policy for a business knowing that if there's a riot, rioters will be allowed free rein? It seems these cities will have difficulties maintaining business districts.

    Replies: @Barnard, @Thoughts, @anon

    They will add limits and sublimits for damage from rioting. Plus larger deductibles. Insurance Companies have extensive experience adjusting coverage and pricing to continue with customers. The last resort is to refuse to underwrite.

  237. @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad


    That’s the Democrats plan. Shutdown the economy. Riot away. All their constituencies will get bailed out. Screw the future!
     
    Agree, that's their plan. Won't work this time. 2020 is the year when the money runs out, securities can't be sold at a low interest rated, the resources bought with the money raised will be inadequate, the money used will be spent on political disputes rather than what's needed physically.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    That’s the Democrats plan. Shutdown the economy. Riot away. All their constituencies will get bailed out. Screw the future!

    Agree, that’s their plan. Won’t work this time. 2020 is the year when the money runs out, securities can’t be sold at a low interest rated, the resources bought with the money raised will be inadequate, the money used will be spent on political disputes rather than what’s needed physically.

    Not yet.

    The money really did run out for Britain in 1945, because there was a more credible world reserve currency. But it took a lot of years–the US had thoroughly surpassed Britain in every economic measure over a half century before.

    What’s kept life cozy in the US–as our elites trash the joint with “diversity” and government and finance and grifting replacing productive activity–is that there is no credible replacement power/currency.

    Obviously the candidate is China, but they have their own set of issues. Chicom thugs in charge.
    Everything is opaque. Nothing can be trusted. They are still trade oriented. Despite having spent massively on internal improvements it is still not fully an internally driven economy. And instead of cracking the nut of getting to stable eugenic fertility–on which their long term future depends–they are off doing prickling, pissant stuff with Tibet, India, the Uighurs, the Tajiks.

    So until the Chinese get their stuff together … people are willing to take dollars. And that’s not stopping in 2020.

    Biden wins the Democrats are going to be ladled out dollars to their favored constituencies hand over fist. You think you can just mind your own business in your non-diverse redoubt? Wrong. The value of the assets you’ve built will erode. The value of your income will erode. The future prosperity of the nation will erode. You, your children, your grandchildren, your posterity … are all going to pay and pay and pay.

    • Agree: Polynikes, 22pp22
    • Thanks: Neoconned
    • Replies: @Kronos
    @AnotherDad


    So until the Chinese get their stuff together … people are willing to take dollars. And that’s not stopping in 2020.
     
    Or, things in the US get a lot worse. China (or a joint China-Russian gold backed currency) may look good if it’s the only option on the table. Remember, no chick is ugly after 2:00AM and is especially preferable over that skank who just died overdosing on opioids in the back ally.
    , @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad


    You, your children, your grandchildren, your posterity … are all going to pay and pay and pay.
     
    You really seem enthused about this. Actually, things aren't that bad.

    The Blacks and Latinx use more Federal "services" than they pay in taxes. The amount is suprising-- about 0.8 trillion dollars (8E11 USD). And that's just excess Federal "services". The word is in quotes because it inclufes courts an prisons.

    Note that this does not include the cost of patronage jobs in salary and in having incompetents in crucial positions, the value destruction of real estate, the opportunity costs from capital diversion, the cost of dumbing Whites down so that they can at least communicate Latinx and Blacks, the cost of shipping industry overseas to pay for current subsidies, and so on. All one can really say is that these costs are substantial.

    Actually, since the Federal Government has also had its legitimacy demolished, the Federal bureaucracy can be mostly sent home, and that money sink will also end.

    Now, the Chicago riots ended both the last high status economic activity in Chicago and the last little shred of legitimacy for subsidizing the cities (**), all that can be diverted to paying the national debt and industrial development. The amount owed should be paid off in a generation, with money left over to fund ample industrial recovery and expansion to a Kondratief Spring.

    Couldn't happen? Could happen in the USSR. Did happen in the USSR and the Warsaw Pact countries.

    (**) which is why the Chicago Mayor is so unhappy. She had a perfectly good con going on, and now it's spoiled. Al Capone couldn't have given a more impassioned speech. She means nothing of the rational content, but the flat rage over a spoiled racket comes right through, as does the "we're coming for you" part. The Chicago riots are an historic marker -- the end, or at least the beginning of he end, of massive subsidies to urban areas, and the Mayor knows it.
    https://youtu.be/79WTeoE8TJk?t=15




    Note the current negotiations between President Trump and the House leadership. Trump proposes a trillion dollars relief, the Democrats propose a trillion for relief and two trillion for their NGOs and other Party efforts - essentially, two trillion dollars subsidy to urban areas. Trump's response is genius -- he cuts payroll taxes, giving relief money to people who do not live in cities, and continues the unemployment bonus but at a rate that makes a job preferable to continuing on unemployment. This is the sort of thing I discuss above -- the end of subsidies to cities.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @Ben tillman, @Ben tillman

  238. If it so bad to be black in this country, why are so many white people trying to pass as black? https://www.yahoo.com/news/people-just-realizing-both-rita-182507578.html

    • Agree: Trinity
  239. @OscarWildeLoveChild
    According to Conservative Inc, this is all being driving by Marxism. These are Marxists! There is nothing else distinguishable or predictive at any of these looters.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Allen

    According to Conservative Inc, this is all being driving by Marxism. These are Marxists! There is nothing else distinguishable or predictive at any of these looters.

    Well, a large portion of them are neither black nor Jewish. Something else must be “distinguishable” and “predictive” about them, if not Marxism.

    I know– they’re all Democrats! Mainstream ones, at that.

    Considering the party’s record, from ethnic cleansing to nuclear holocaust, I’d say these riots are fairly tame in comparison.

  240. @Anonymous


    A reminder that these expensive stores catered mostly to tourists. Most recently they appear to be catering to the rap-music crowd. Quite a few residents here never shop at these stores..
     
    Judging by the latest posts in the thread, it appears that looters are now going after the everyday stores and shops.

    So far: Walgreens and a local restaurant. Are there others?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @cityview

    Yes, absolutely. It is important to know that looters have also gone after everyday stores since May. The Loop has had many instances of Walgreens trashed and looted. Walgreens, Target, 7-11–these have all been damaged and looted.

  241. @Mark G.
    @Peter Johnson


    If you type “Chicago looting” into the New York Times search bar, you are assured that no such event has happened since no entries exist for it.
     
    If they had the internet back in the nineteen thirties, if you had typed in "Ukrainian famine" into the New York Times search bar you would have been assured that no such event had happened too.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Lurker

    Good one, Mark, and worst of all, iSteve wasn’t around then.

  242. @JimB
    Chicago needs an emergency cut-off switch for Facebook, Google, Twitter, and Instagram.

    Replies: @Hhsiii

    Like they evidently have in Belarus.

  243. ATMs broken into and controlled prescription drugs stolen under the cover of general looting.

    Federal laws cover those offenses.

  244. @Stonewall Jackson
    I wonder if the Democrats can put this lunacy back in the bottle once Biden wins. I guess the Soros money for this will dry up, but still, they have voting blocks that are pretty unruly and rioted when even Obama was in office. Baltimore's experience was pretty much what you have seen here. It hasn't participated in the current hysteria because there is nothing left to loot in the dangerous black neighborhoods... and as one city council candidate said ... take that shit to Towson, we need what's left of our businesses here..

    Replies: @bomag, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @AnotherDad, @jon, @Negrolphin Pool

    once Biden wins

    Biden won’t win, and these riots will be one of the primary reasons. Normal people aren’t happy that large parts of their country is literally on fire.

    • Agree: Ed
  245. @theMann
    So next year when these pathetic morons in State and Local Governments can't make their payrolls, pensions, or anything else due to the complete collapse in tax revenues, what is the game plan?

    Borrow it from the Federal Government, which will simply print the money up, and live with the hyperinflation?




    They are dead either way, and they have it coming to them for being low grade cowards in the first place.


    And in the meantime, all of the Urban Sophisticates who have learned to steal without consequence......going to be a serious day of reckoning for them, sooner or later.

    Replies: @Flip

    Borrow it from the Federal Government, which will simply print the money up, and live with the hyperinflation?

    I can’t see politicians allowing defaults if they still have access to a printing press.

  246. @Spud Boy
    They used to hang horse thieves in the old west. Not because hanging is an appropriate punishment for theft, but because they wanted to discourage the stealing of horses.

    We need to adopt that mentality in 2020.

    Replies: @Flip

    Shooting looters used to be the standard protocol.

  247. • Replies: @Rob McX
    @MEH 0910

    Two unchangeable facts of life - the weather and black violence.

    , @Buck Ransom
    @MEH 0910

    I bet it was one of those racist White tornadoes.

  248. @Hibernian
    @Enemy of Earth


    Some alderman is speaking now reminding us Chicago is still a world class city. Wonder of wonders, He just called the participants “looters.”
     
    Brendan Reilly, Near North Side, I bet.

    Replies: @LMD

  249. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/chicagotribune/status/1292951481591758849

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Buck Ransom

    Two unchangeable facts of life – the weather and black violence.

  250. @jb
    OT but of iSteve interest. Maybe this is old news, but I just noticed (via a link in Razib's recent Open Thread) that the Washington Post seems to be reverentially capitalizing both Black and White in at least some articles.

    Replies: @Charlotte

    Yes, they made an announcement about that. For the moment, at least, both are being capitalized.

  251. @Alden
    @Jim Christian

    I saw it on freerepublic 2 hours ago. The police should go on strike for a week. Another town will turn into Detroit.

    Replies: @Kronos

    Most cops live outside of the city right? So they won’t be shooting themselves in the foot with vandalized/undefeated homes and shrinking real estate values.

  252. I’m watching a Rev. Robin Hood (I kid you not) described as a community activist who says the looting is linked to survival. The problem is not enough money allocated for educational and jobs programs and too many fathers being incarcerated. Chicago media going out of their way to point out the wholesale looting last night has no connection with the peaceful protests over the death of a drug addled career criminal in Minnesota whose parents obviously never had the talk with him about interactions with police.

    Yeah, no connection other than the racial makeup of the majority of the participants.

  253. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    That’s not the plan. Pelosi has already decided to send trillions in Federal $ to the cities. For now, the Senate and Trump are not going along but after January there’s a good chance that it will all be Dem controlled. Who needs a tax base if the Federal Reserve can just print up $? We are in a deflationary environment anyway so no one notices that printing $ is inflationary.
     
    Exactly. Spot on Jack.

    The plan is to piss away America's good will, the Dollar's status as world's reserve currency or children's future ... to bail out the Democrats' destruction and incompetence.

    Trump, Republicans need to fight this tooth and nail.

    Insist that all the federal relief money goes to the people.

    Make Democrat states and cities tax it from them if they want to spend it.

    The Democrats want to break the connection between good governance, taxes, quality of life. Essentially bail out people who elect spendthrift, incompetent, and rule-of-law destroying Democrats.

    Republicans need to learn about this thing called "politics". This is a hill to fight and die on. If Republicans don't fight, they'll die.

    Replies: @hhsiii, @Ben tillman

    Piss away America’s goodwill? Sounds like a bust-out.

  254. @Alfa158
    Based on the video clips I’ve seen, the Chicago police seem to be astonishingly White given the overall demographics. I wonder if this is a result of entrenched legacy systems you see in these older large urban areas where the best way to become a cop or firefighter is by being the fourth generation of your family in that line of work.
    Contrast with LAPD graduating class.

    https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/df5726b/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2048x1365+0+0/resize/1440x960!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F57%2Ff9%2F171ae2c19787e84f3651c50cd133%2Fla-me-lapd-cadet-graduation-20170624-pictures-002

    These are the people who will be responding to any future 911 call Steve might make. I’m sure he feels safer already.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @John Johnson, @Ed

    Policing is still seen as a good job where you can retire after 20 years and get a nice pension. Also they screen for policing. One little secret is that many black recruits can’t pass the reading tests many depts. require.

    • Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @Ed

    Also in many jurisdictions you can't have drug use or any felonies in your history. How many can meet that standard? Disparate Impact!

    So path of least resistance is to lower the standards.

  255. @OscarWildeLoveChild
    According to Conservative Inc, this is all being driving by Marxism. These are Marxists! There is nothing else distinguishable or predictive at any of these looters.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Allen

    Well, many of the Conservative Inc. writers are equating the entire BLM “movement” with Marxism, (something fairly easy to do since the BLM founders actually called themselves Marxists). Therefore, condemning Marxism gives them a safe way to condemn BLM as a whole without the risk of being called racist. While I would appreciate more honesty, they are at least indirectly attacking BLM.

  256. @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous



    That’s the Democrats plan. Shutdown the economy. Riot away. All their constituencies will get bailed out. Screw the future!
     
    Agree, that’s their plan. Won’t work this time. 2020 is the year when the money runs out, securities can’t be sold at a low interest rated, the resources bought with the money raised will be inadequate, the money used will be spent on political disputes rather than what’s needed physically.
     
    Not yet.

    The money really did run out for Britain in 1945, because there was a more credible world reserve currency. But it took a lot of years--the US had thoroughly surpassed Britain in every economic measure over a half century before.

    What's kept life cozy in the US--as our elites trash the joint with "diversity" and government and finance and grifting replacing productive activity--is that there is no credible replacement power/currency.

    Obviously the candidate is China, but they have their own set of issues. Chicom thugs in charge.
    Everything is opaque. Nothing can be trusted. They are still trade oriented. Despite having spent massively on internal improvements it is still not fully an internally driven economy. And instead of cracking the nut of getting to stable eugenic fertility--on which their long term future depends--they are off doing prickling, pissant stuff with Tibet, India, the Uighurs, the Tajiks.

    So until the Chinese get their stuff together ... people are willing to take dollars. And that's not stopping in 2020.

    Biden wins the Democrats are going to be ladled out dollars to their favored constituencies hand over fist. You think you can just mind your own business in your non-diverse redoubt? Wrong. The value of the assets you've built will erode. The value of your income will erode. The future prosperity of the nation will erode. You, your children, your grandchildren, your posterity ... are all going to pay and pay and pay.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Anonymous

    So until the Chinese get their stuff together … people are willing to take dollars. And that’s not stopping in 2020.

    Or, things in the US get a lot worse. China (or a joint China-Russian gold backed currency) may look good if it’s the only option on the table. Remember, no chick is ugly after 2:00AM and is especially preferable over that skank who just died overdosing on opioids in the back ally.

  257. Yes it will stop because the Chicago Police will start doing their job when the cops get the ok from the Democrats. Police are only interested in getting paid and Democrats run all the big cities and Democrats pay the cops and that’s the way it is.

  258. @wren
    Lightfoot and even Jesse Jackson are condemning the looting now.

    Tough luck guys.

    Soros and dems made a calculation that they could take advantage of some real or imagined police outrage for some righteous political gains.

    Some black people in Chicago made a calculation that they could take advantage of some real or imagined police outrage for some righteous Vuitton haul.

    Same, same.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    wren, Lightfoot has let this civil disobedience go for so long that I think Obama himself could not reverse this. Of course Obama stirred this pot mightily when he was president.

  259. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @El Dato
    @Anonymous

    Deep degeneracy ... pumped directly to you over devices those people wouldn't grasp in a million years.

    I don't know whether Steve Jobs would approve. I would say no.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I don’t know whether Steve Jobs would approve. I would say no.

    I am rather under the impression that Jobs was not the sort to give in to shakedowns.

    I don’t know how well remembered it is today, but when Apple wanted to expand their corporate campus a decade ago, the Cupertino City Council tried to shake down Apple for free iPads and Wi-fi.

    Long story short, the city council expected A Big Haul. What they got, instead, was The Big Freeze:

    “You see, I’m a simpleton. I’ve always had this view that we pay taxes and the city should do those things. Now if we can get out of paying taxes, I’d be glad to put up Wi Fi.”

    You can find an overview of what happened here:

    http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=35771

    In any case, Tim Cook is now in charge of Apple…and it shows.

    No doubt we can look forward to Mr. Cook putting on a “BLM is in us all!” rally that will culminate in a black man sodomising him onstage. Anything to burnish Apple’s SJW credentials.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous


    No doubt we can look forward to Mr. Cook putting on a “BLM is in us all!” rally that will culminate in a black man sodomising him onstage. Anything to burnish Apple’s SJW credentials.
     
    I can see no downside to this.
  260. @Anon7
    Just thought I'd pass on this comment from Twitter by T.y @Tybrazil1280:

    I have zero problem with the looting in Chicago.. Racist have stole from us every single fucking day for 400+ years.. IT IS JUSTIFIED
     
    That's one. I'd like to know how many more black people believe this.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @Colin Wright, @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @HammerJack

    ‘… That’s one. I’d like to know how many more black people believe this.’

    Lots. They’ll buy into any rationalization for their bullshit — however lame.

  261. @YetAnotherAnon
    An then they came for ... Camptown Races.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8608291/Pianist-plays-Camptown-Races-OAP-singalong-charity-erupts-race-row.html

    Replies: @mmack, @Piglet

    Well to be fair, they hired the pianist to get some track laid and not dance around like some Kansas City F-ggots:

  262. @Steve from Detroit
    I know Chicago is burning, but the top story on Drudge comes from Kamala's old beau:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/willie-brown-kamala-harris-should-say-no-to-vice-presidency/ar-BB17J8hG

    The first line in the article reads as follows:

    Harris is a tested and proven campaigner who will work her backside off to get Biden elected.

    Steve, are you ghost-writing for Willie Brown?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Harris is a tested and proven campaigner who will work her backside off to get Biden elected.

    If there’s anything Willie Brown knows inside and out, it’s Kamala’s backside.

  263. @TomSchmidt
    @R.G. Camara


    It’s going to take a long time, I believe, before NYC lefties who stay ever admit to themselves that yeah, constantly playing into the blacks-as-victims, police-are-evil thing was a bad plan. I think it’ll be at least 10 years before they even hint to elect a strong law-and-order candidate. Thus I predict De Blasio’s successor will continue these policies.
     
    Recall that the white working and middle classes were more prominent when Giuliani was first elected. The city is a lot less "real" in what it does, even since then. If you make your money on film, or moving numbers in a spreadsheet, you're a lot more disconnected from reality than people who have to deal with reality in their jobs. The city is symbolic manipulators at the top and non-working receivers at the bottom, and none of them give a fig about what happens.

    Of course, we have had the 70s in 6 months this year. Except for the budget crisis, which is coming. Will DeBlasio cut the cops and services for the middle classes to save pork for the poor? Given how recently things were pretty good, I expect the next mayor to be expected to bring back the good times.

    I thought inMarch that the city would take years to return to where it was inJanuary. I don't think it will ever get back there now.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    The problem is like Detroit, Newark, Camden, etc. :

    At certain point, unless stopped in time, Leftist insanity drives out so many non-black folks and then all the rational Talented Tenthers and middle-class acting blacks, that the only thing that remains are the 85% of blacks who believe everything is racist or are too afraid/race loyal to stamp out the bad blacks, or the pathetic hangers-on lefties in complete denial about everything.

    And then the far-left political leaders just lay back, promise the most pork, and blame the police and racism for all the problems, and get elected. And anyone who tries to move in gets hit with huge taxes and blamed for all problems. Hipsters trying to colonize Detroit all but give up after a bit and leave Detroit because the black pols don’t cut them any slack and blame them for all the wrongs, even if they just moved in.

    Things have been moving at such a rapid rate, we might actually be reaching that point in many smaller cities. Thanks to the internet, people are seeing those riot videos despite the corporate media’s best efforts to deny anything bad is going on. The stories on Twitter of a mass exodus from cities are coming as rapidly as the stories of riots.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    @R.G. Camara

    I did see that blacks in Englewood in Chicago drove out a BLM protest. Interesting; the black working classes have caught on to the BLM scam.

    NYC has 2MM blacks; but despite being almost as large as Chicago by themselves, they've not killed at anywhere near the rate of the denizens of that city. It's been tense but peaceful, until recently.

    I don't know how NYC ever recovers from this, even without an overwhelming poor population as in Detroit.

    Keep safe. That shudder you felt as you walked through the ruined Forum in Rome? It was a premonition.

  264. I’ve watched many videos of The Sack Of Chicago from last nite. I’ve spotted one, only one, white person among the looters this time. This incident was 99.999% POC; Antifa wasn’t even invited this time. Incident was not even political, just typical POC opportunistic thievery and hell-raising. Downtown Chicago has been plagued by apolitical POC-organized flash-mobs and armed robberies for years.

    • Replies: @anon
    @gutta percha

    It's just a bigger, more better version of the flash mobs that have been happening along Michigan avenue in particular for years.

    , @Aleksander
    @gutta percha

    Gutta, what you need to realize is that lootin' and shootin' is the black and POC way of showing LOVE. What you have to understand is blacks and POC love the chaos. It makes them feel free. IT's what they want. TPTB simply won't allow YT to get away with a formal secession. The parasite cannot allow the host to escape. We'll have to secede informally. State by state, town by town, neighborhood by neighborhood. Get to know your neighbors NOW, if you haven't already. Build solidarity with them. Get ready to defend your turf.

    State to informally to secede toward include Utah, Western Colorado, Wyoming, South Dakota, North Dakota, and maybe Northern Idaho. These states are FAR from perfect, but better than Eastern alternatives. Cold weather is racist. It doesn't like blacks. If blacks are transplanted from afar, like the Somalis in Minnesota or Portland, Maine, whites need to be prepared and ready to defend life and neighborhood from black and POC "love."

    , @Anon
    @gutta percha

    There's a reason why older European cities don't put their violent welfare population in housing that's near the city center. They stick them way out as far as they can get so the nasty blacks have to put in some serious commuting time to be able to rob.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  265. @bruce county
    Great way to start the week. New clothes, new shoes, new whatever shit weez don't need gonna steal anyway because racism, George, Ahmaud, Breonna, Rayshard and on and on and fucking on.

    Are we having fun yet?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    What amazes me about all this looting is the sheer destruction. I’d maybe go in and grab some pants and shirts, but these {…} seem to delight in trashing everything they don’t steal. Maybe it’s I got mine so f you. And why do they all scream at once at the top of their lungs?

    Blacks truly are God’s curse on America.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Jim Don Bob

    What amazes me about all this looting is the sheer destruction.

    That's just keepin' it real. To fight the POWer. Stick it to the MAN! Yeah!

    Relative of mine in an urban area back in the 80's didn't sell and move when a public housing unit got plopped in about a mile away. Then after all the burglaries in his area he couldn't afford to sell. So whenever he and his wife went out of town they had to put anything valuable in storage or a bank safe deposit box and arrange for someone to house sit. Even then they got broken into at least once every year to 18 months, and always it wasn't just enough to steal stuff, nope, there had to be spray painted tagging on the walls, sometimes ripped up carpet or a sofa set on fire, often urine and feces in the corner of a room. Just territory marking, I guess. But it cost him every time it happened in paint and cleaning and replacement of broken stuff.

    He had a color TV set that was old when they moved in. Years went by, the picture wasn't so good, he refused to replace it - because it was too old to be worth stealing.Pretty sure he still had it to the day he died. But it did get tagged once.

    It's the untalented 9/10th way of being - break other people's stuff just because you can.

    Don't hate. Separate.

  266. @TomSchmidt
    @Dave Pinsen

    Dems are playing with fire. Blue cities are in a downward spiral now of rising crime and shrinking tax bases.

    Maybe not. Perhaps the strategy is to destroy the cities so that their residents go out into Congressional districts where gerrymandering has preserved a 55/45 Republican advantage, while the numbers racked up by Democrats in cities are regularly in the 90% range.

    CA, IL,NY were NEVER going to give Trump their electoral votes. So maybe the strategy is to send the voters to other states like PA, FL, AZ where they can tip?

    Replies: @Jesse, @Polynikes

    You think the Senate is gerrymandered? Interesting concept, I suppose.

  267. What exactly are the Democrats thinking?

    They believe that $100 million in property value destroyed (personal property, leasehold and real property) does not justify a single rubber bullet or nightstick striking a Black body.

    If you believe otherwise, you’re probably not a Democrat. Or you’re a Democrat who has been mugged.

  268. @gutta percha
    I've watched many videos of The Sack Of Chicago from last nite. I've spotted one, only one, white person among the looters this time. This incident was 99.999% POC; Antifa wasn't even invited this time. Incident was not even political, just typical POC opportunistic thievery and hell-raising. Downtown Chicago has been plagued by apolitical POC-organized flash-mobs and armed robberies for years.

    Replies: @anon, @Aleksander, @Anon

    It’s just a bigger, more better version of the flash mobs that have been happening along Michigan avenue in particular for years.

  269. @Anonymous
    So many negative black stereotypes.

    It’s as if they aren’t stereotypes, but rather, a matter of fact, and they lean into it as if they indeed know what they are, and love it.

    Question for debate: How can a modern western society shame a swamp-running negro?

    https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1292744439010480128?s=20

    Replies: @Buck Ransom, @Buffalo Joe

    “Let’s see, this says Valentino. This says Dolce and Gabbana.”
    Such a fashionable apostle of Saint George, just oozing her passion for social justice.

  270. @JimDandy
    @The Alarmist

    Consequences have been removed. Kim Foxx, the same she-beast of a State's Attorney who tried to enable Jussie Smollett's malarkey, has essentially de-criminalized crime in Chicago. Chicago's top-columnists, John Kass, wrote about how Soros-backed prosecutors across the country are doing the same thing in America's big cities. He was immediately demoted.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnoRPYhp4R4

    Replies: @Anonymous, @MEH 0910

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/07/22/something_grows_in_the_big_cities_run_by_democrats_an_overwhelming_sense_of_lawlessness_143775.html

    Something Grows in the Big Cities Run by Democrats: An Overwhelming Sense of Lawlessness
    By John Kass

    ******
    But these Democratic cities are also where left-wing billionaire George Soros has spent millions of dollars to help elect liberal social justice warriors as prosecutors. He remakes the justice system in urban America, flying under the radar.

    The Soros-funded prosecutors, not the mayors, are the ones who help release the violent on little or no bond.

    ******
    If Trump truly wants to help the cities, he might privately call the mayors and ask them about the prosecutors backed by Soros.

    These prosecutors are among the few politicians in America who have delivered on their promises. They promised to empty their jails through the social justice warrior policy of “decarceration.” They also help give repeat, violent criminals little or no bond when arrested.

    And in many of the violent cities, the prosecutors have delivered on their promises, not to keep the violent in jail, but to let them out.

    In Democratic Chicago, for example, the Soros prosecutor is Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx. In her 2020 campaign, she reportedly received at least $2 million from a Soros backed political action committee.

    • Thanks: ziggurat
  271. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/chicagotribune/status/1292951481591758849

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Buck Ransom

    I bet it was one of those racist White tornadoes.

  272. @Anonymous
    I think y'all forget that this is just a few streets.

    I know of a Jewish neighborhood located in a bad area. All the houses on one side of the main drag are owned by Jews and on the other side of the street is apartment slums.

    You never see a break-in on the Jewish side of the street. Ever.

    So no...they will not lose control after the elections.

    Replies: @Larry, San Francisco

    When I lived in Chicago the 3 women of color, who broke into my house and shoved a gun into my yiddishe kop (look it up) during a 3 am home invasion, must not have gotten the message. Maybe my mistake was not putting lamb’s blood on the doorposts of my house

  273. anon[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Don Bob
    @bruce county

    What amazes me about all this looting is the sheer destruction. I'd maybe go in and grab some pants and shirts, but these {...} seem to delight in trashing everything they don't steal. Maybe it's I got mine so f you. And why do they all scream at once at the top of their lungs?

    Blacks truly are God's curse on America.

    Replies: @anon

    What amazes me about all this looting is the sheer destruction.

    That’s just keepin’ it real. To fight the POWer. Stick it to the MAN! Yeah!

    Relative of mine in an urban area back in the 80’s didn’t sell and move when a public housing unit got plopped in about a mile away. Then after all the burglaries in his area he couldn’t afford to sell. So whenever he and his wife went out of town they had to put anything valuable in storage or a bank safe deposit box and arrange for someone to house sit. Even then they got broken into at least once every year to 18 months, and always it wasn’t just enough to steal stuff, nope, there had to be spray painted tagging on the walls, sometimes ripped up carpet or a sofa set on fire, often urine and feces in the corner of a room. Just territory marking, I guess. But it cost him every time it happened in paint and cleaning and replacement of broken stuff.

    He had a color TV set that was old when they moved in. Years went by, the picture wasn’t so good, he refused to replace it – because it was too old to be worth stealing.Pretty sure he still had it to the day he died. But it did get tagged once.

    It’s the untalented 9/10th way of being – break other people’s stuff just because you can.

    Don’t hate. Separate.

  274. @gutta percha
    I've watched many videos of The Sack Of Chicago from last nite. I've spotted one, only one, white person among the looters this time. This incident was 99.999% POC; Antifa wasn't even invited this time. Incident was not even political, just typical POC opportunistic thievery and hell-raising. Downtown Chicago has been plagued by apolitical POC-organized flash-mobs and armed robberies for years.

    Replies: @anon, @Aleksander, @Anon

    Gutta, what you need to realize is that lootin’ and shootin’ is the black and POC way of showing LOVE. What you have to understand is blacks and POC love the chaos. It makes them feel free. IT’s what they want. TPTB simply won’t allow YT to get away with a formal secession. The parasite cannot allow the host to escape. We’ll have to secede informally. State by state, town by town, neighborhood by neighborhood. Get to know your neighbors NOW, if you haven’t already. Build solidarity with them. Get ready to defend your turf.

    State to informally to secede toward include Utah, Western Colorado, Wyoming, South Dakota, North Dakota, and maybe Northern Idaho. These states are FAR from perfect, but better than Eastern alternatives. Cold weather is racist. It doesn’t like blacks. If blacks are transplanted from afar, like the Somalis in Minnesota or Portland, Maine, whites need to be prepared and ready to defend life and neighborhood from black and POC “love.”

  275. @Mark G.
    @Peter Johnson


    If you type “Chicago looting” into the New York Times search bar, you are assured that no such event has happened since no entries exist for it.
     
    If they had the internet back in the nineteen thirties, if you had typed in "Ukrainian famine" into the New York Times search bar you would have been assured that no such event had happened too.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Lurker

    But perhaps some late breaking Emmett Till news?

  276. @Anonymous
    So many negative black stereotypes.

    It’s as if they aren’t stereotypes, but rather, a matter of fact, and they lean into it as if they indeed know what they are, and love it.

    Question for debate: How can a modern western society shame a swamp-running negro?

    https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1292744439010480128?s=20

    Replies: @Buck Ransom, @Buffalo Joe

    OneEightSix, wish one of these ass hats last words were…”I fucked up !”

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Buffalo Joe

    Naaa, the last words are typically “mama,” “oh sheet,” “mothafu—(bang)” or “damn.”

  277. @Anonymous
    Ever since Clinton, the globo neo-libs loved to talk of bridges and more bridges. Building bridges all over the world. And yet, the sudden castle mentality with bridges up and blacks kept out by the river used as moat. But then, it all makes sense why the elites want bridges to other nations. Immigrants are preferable to blacks. Bridge over Troubled Looter.

    https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/057/581/476/original/6508179f2045b5d4.png?1597085946

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Man, that is an image we should all save.

    If you have a moat, and a drawbridge, use it!

    Just be sure to use it in time.

    It’s almost like borders help keep people safe.

  278. @Anon7
    Just thought I'd pass on this comment from Twitter by T.y @Tybrazil1280:

    I have zero problem with the looting in Chicago.. Racist have stole from us every single fucking day for 400+ years.. IT IS JUSTIFIED
     
    That's one. I'd like to know how many more black people believe this.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @Colin Wright, @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @HammerJack

    . I’d like to know how many more black people believe this.

    All of them? Who says no to free stuff?

  279. @hhsiii
    @AnotherDad

    I gotta say that NY, while being tax and spend, was actually fairly balanced at the State level. The pension is much better funded than NJ, for example (although that's not the State's budget). New York, for whatever Cuomo and DeBlasio's faults in dealing with Covid (and it seems people want it both ways, that they acted too slowly, but were also too draconian), and well, anything else, one should acknowedge a bit of this is a bit the nature of the beast. It's a packed city, massive subway system, lots of international and national travel through it. The Feds ARE giving trilions not just "to the people" but also to corporations.

    I know a lot of people will just say good riddance to the blue cities. But I don't see why they should just be ceded or allowed to melt down. And for years NY has been a net contributor to the feds (ok, so just feeding a different beast).

    Ultimately there'll be horse-trading on this I imagine. Maybe post-election either way.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @HammerJack

    It was just a couple of years ago that the GOP finally collapsed and lost the NY State Senate — they had kept the libs from going completely crazy but now that speed bump is gone and criminals can’t get dumped back on the street fast enough.

  280. Interesting that the worst mayor in America is either a ghastly black lesbian or a brain dead white guy married to a ghastly black lesbian.

    Who saw that coming?

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Peterike

    >>Interesting that the worst mayor in America is either a ghastly black lesbian or a brain dead white guy married to a ghastly black lesbian.

    Who saw that coming?<<

    Hmmmm... Maybe Pat Buchanan circa 1992.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Trinity
    @Peterike

    I keep thinking that the current (((mayor of NYC))) is a crypto.

  281. @Ed
    @Alfa158

    Policing is still seen as a good job where you can retire after 20 years and get a nice pension. Also they screen for policing. One little secret is that many black recruits can’t pass the reading tests many depts. require.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Also in many jurisdictions you can’t have drug use or any felonies in your history. How many can meet that standard? Disparate Impact!

    So path of least resistance is to lower the standards.

  282. So far this summer, Detroit and Baltimore have had better riot control than Chicago. That’s a huge embarrassment for Chicago.

  283. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnny Pranke
    @Anonymous

    Interesting comment. What probability distribution would you assign to the following outcomes over the next decade?

    Kondratiev winter only
    Intense, unprecedented violent civil unrest (much worse than even now) almost resulting in political dissolution, but not to the level of a war
    Peaceful breakup/secession
    Civil War

    Here's mine:
    K-winter only: 30%
    Violent civil unrest but no breakup: 50%
    Peaceful secession: 5%
    Civil War: 15%

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Here’s mine:
    K-winter only: 30%
    Violent civil unrest but no breakup: 50%
    Peaceful secession: 5%
    Civil War: 15%

    Good question. A scenario that can’t be acted upon is entertainment, no more. So here’s an answer:

    [MORE]

    * K-winter only: 0%. The Left has taken the K-winter as putting society into what they call a “pre-revolutionary condition”, which is why they are financing Antifa, destructive District Attorneys, self-destructing news networks, and the like (*). That takes out the “only” part. Odds of a K-Winter in combination with other transformative large scale events – 100%, the K-Winter has already started.

    * Violent civil unrest increases but no breakup: 90% My original post points out that the current disputed is urban vs. hinterland. Copley (**) says that the dispute is the result of hinterland overpopulation sending unemployable descendants to urban areas, which have grown so populous that they dominate politics. This has happened world wide. I add that the Western cities, at least, have none of the natural monopolies such as shipping, manufacture that assembles imported products for domestic use, easy communications between physically adjacent firms, even regional dominance in specialized services (courts of law, specialized luxuries). All gone, or still there, but not as monopolies and not economic because of high urban costs.
    This means that the cities can have violent urban civil unrest without seriously affecting the rest of the country, and that is what I would expect to see more of. The civil unrest marks the end of political dominance of the cities in the US, and probably in the West, so the dispersal of city populations as cities become uninhabitable will mean the end of democracy. We are already seeing that in the “vote by mail” method advocated by the current Democrats. They see it as a way of inducing a Nov. 2020 succession crisis that they will win, but one of the side effects, making elections no longer democratic, is more important.
    .. There is a variation of this we’ve already seen this year (2020). That was the barring of “out of state” people “to prevent the spread of COVID-19”. Now that the precedent has been set, out of state people (say, from a megacity) could be barred from neighboring States. If the Federal Government and its Judicial Branch continue to discredit themselves, they may not be able to prevent barring urban refugees. They certainly did rule legally against the “sanctuary cities”, which fit the definition of cities in partial secession, although they did rule against States trying to prevent foreigners from criminally residing in the US. Barring urban refuges could lead to a weak version of secession. Why bar urban refugees? Look what happened to Virginia thanks to overflow from the DC area.

    * Peaceful succession (after 2020/08), but not successful: 5%. We’ve already had this on a local symbolic level (the Autonomous Zones and the Sanctuary Cities / States), but, other than a possible succession by the Republic of Texas, full succession doesn’t seem feasible. Southern California might try to join Mexico on ethnic grounds, but then it and its water supply would be in different nations (***). The basic problem with succession is that the urban regions have lost their economic base, and are surrounded by a hinterland that the urban regions have very badly hurt. Rural suicide rate among Whites is considerably above national average, largely because of urban appropriation of resources and urban micromanagement of society. Further, the members of the BIPOC (****) coalition that the Democrats formed are in active civil war against each other and against their leadership. The loss of political unity between urban areas and their hinterlands destroys the autarky that is necessary for secession, and the BIPOC internal conflict worsens that problem. Succession may be attempted again, and won’t be successful.
    In the long term, the US might formally split up along cultural lines in the hinterlands (see: Woodward, _American Nations_, but that would be at least 50 years away, and would more likely be in the form of regional governments.

    * Civil War with commitments on the Army level (*****) 5%. The problem here is that the US might not be left alone to solve its problems. if DoD forces have become ineffective through, say, a logistics/supply/payroll failure, or perhaps a legal ruling or a simple policy of neutrality, then one side or another (or somebody trying to play the role of spokesperson for universal morality might invite in “peace keeping” or even “peace enforcement” forces, and some rather foolish government with domestic problems to distract from might actually respond. That could escalate quickly.


    So, what’s your plan?

    Let me emphasize that the best individual / organizational plan for such a future is (IMHO) one that is rugged, that is, has an acceptable outcome for, say, 95% of possible outcome. In games theory, that’s the “minimize regret” strategy. You can assume continued decline of urban areas, of all national currencies, and (in general) of the Westphalian State. The trends noted in van Creveld’s 1996 article (******) have continued unabated, and will probably continue to do so. Move to a non-urban area, expect supply shortages, expect criminal activity to include home invasion by urban refugees. Follow professional advice for a secure home (Google: “secure home”). See local Sheriff’s department for support of possible Neighborhood Watch. Take professional firearms instruction (Google it for your area), consider buying light body armor to protect from random gunfire (see: http://www.bullteproofme.com for a primer). Above all, get a source of income you can depend upon. COVID-19 has put something like 30% of the US population out of work, caused a 30% or so drop in GDP, motivated considerable governmental intervention in the markets, and may well result in a considerable drop in economic activity. Get a source of income you can depend upon if you possibly can.

    **A look into the millstone — very speculative.:
    I suspect that the world will, after the usual three decade transition, enter a phase of distributed industrialization in the former urban hinterlands. The national power this will produce won’t be enough to support significant expeditionary forces (like those of WW II), and the parts of the world that do not wish to become industrialized (such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, and the Congo) will not have to become industrialized, yet will not be able to destroy the industrialized areas. This restriction of the territory available to the industrialized world will introduce severe resource restrictions. Support attempts, such as those of Space-X and deep sea mining (/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_sea_mining), to expand access to resources that are not claimed by non-industrial societies.
    ** end of looking into millstone

    *) The Left also identified the Kondratiev Summer of the late 1960s as in a “pre-revolutionary state”, so don’t take the identification seriously beyond realizing that the Left is trying (as it was in the 1960s) to foment revolution.

    **) Copley, _Uncivilization_, 2012/10/22

    ***) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_in_California

    ****) BIPOC: Black, Indigenous, and People of Color — term used in the Northwest. Indicates the current”rainbow coalition” in order of intersectional priority.

    *****) Here I’m using “Army” in the sense of a military organization that represents one side in one “theater of war”. A “theater of war” is a geographic area within which military maneuvers are fairly straightforward, and are bounded by areas within which such maneuvers are not simple. Typical boundaries for infantry/armor armies are seas, mountains, and sometimes rivers.

    ******) von Creveld, _Parameters_ Vol 29, 1996.
    to read article, search Google Scholar or use this link:
    https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=ZtlLAQAAMAAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PA4&dq=van+Creveld+++%22the+fate+of+the+state%22,+Parameters&ots=6DZFpKhyHk&sig=52p_eo09jAL0yBLAycovHSqaMj0#v=onepage&q=van%20Creveld%20%20%20%22the%20fate%20of%20the%20state%22%2C%20Parameters&f=false

  284. @Wake up
    And we are being told that as soon as “systemic racism” ends so will these crime sprees. Does anyone have anymore jokes they would like to share?

    Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel, @Rosie

    And we are being told that as soon as “systemic racism” ends so will these crime sprees. Does anyone have anymore jokes they would like to share?

    I’ve been trying to put myself in the place of these elites lately to see what I can come up with. It occurs to me that, if indeed these riots are spontaneous rather than orchestrated, the elites feel they have no choice in how to respond. What message would it send, for example, to crack down on the looters?

    To crack down would, it seems, to imply that their conduct is inexcusable and beyond the pale. Is there a concern that this would vindicate “racists” or something? To be honest, it wouldn’t surprise me. I wouldn’t put it past these people to allow the total destruction of major cities rather than admit, however implicitly, that they’ve had it all wrong these past 70 years.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Rosie

    Yeah, there are some inconsistencies in comparing some riots/looting sprees to others. I kinda sense the riots happening within the core cities (Chicago) are much more spontaneous outbreaks of jungle fever. Those that occur in the suburbs or satellite cities seem more organized and potentially more influenced by Soros money. (I’m guessing Portland is a exception.)

    I mean, would Rahm Emanuel would be happy with the riots/looting in Chicago?

  285. @gutta percha
    I've watched many videos of The Sack Of Chicago from last nite. I've spotted one, only one, white person among the looters this time. This incident was 99.999% POC; Antifa wasn't even invited this time. Incident was not even political, just typical POC opportunistic thievery and hell-raising. Downtown Chicago has been plagued by apolitical POC-organized flash-mobs and armed robberies for years.

    Replies: @anon, @Aleksander, @Anon

    There’s a reason why older European cities don’t put their violent welfare population in housing that’s near the city center. They stick them way out as far as they can get so the nasty blacks have to put in some serious commuting time to be able to rob.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anon

    That is *CERTAINLY* *NOT* true of London, England.

  286. @Stonewall Jackson
    I wonder if the Democrats can put this lunacy back in the bottle once Biden wins. I guess the Soros money for this will dry up, but still, they have voting blocks that are pretty unruly and rioted when even Obama was in office. Baltimore's experience was pretty much what you have seen here. It hasn't participated in the current hysteria because there is nothing left to loot in the dangerous black neighborhoods... and as one city council candidate said ... take that shit to Towson, we need what's left of our businesses here..

    Replies: @bomag, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @AnotherDad, @jon, @Negrolphin Pool

    The graffitti is on the wall at this point. Chicago’s elites are insane to continue allowing this to happen. But this begs the question if there are more than a sprinkling of those left who could be described as Chicago elites at all. Or has what was once an identifiable business and cultural community with a real local identity been supplanted by the Boeing and Aon C-suiters to an extent that the once great city is just another fungible node in the global network?

    The basic calculus is clear enough. Once businesses deem local operations to be unprofitable, you end up with ever increasing amounts of vacant real estate. Zillow has the median Detroit home value at $36k. But that doesn’t factor in the 35% of homes that have been razed and probably close to that portion again that currently stand vacant. Vacant homes and those that have been torn down are worthless by definition. Similar circumstances prevail in Detroit’s commercial real estate sector outside of downtown.

    A commenter on ZeroHedge made the point that determining the exact threshold at which a city becomes economically non-viable for private business is not some abstract thought experiment; it is the job of actuaries. Once insurance companies decide that they won’t write policies on homes or businesses, especially real estate- and transportation-related policies, it’s municipal check mate because there will be few banks willing to lend and few businesses willing to risk the unbearable liabilities of operating in and sending their people through a war zone.

    Maybe Jussie Smollett and the rest of the Gold Coast chic radicals, if they have an ounce of basic economic sense, might want to consider that the lower bound on their $10 million penthouses is exactly the same as the hundreds of units that until recently sat vacant for decades in Detroit’s iconic neoclassical Book Cadillac tower: zero.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Negrolphin Pool


    A commenter on ZeroHedge made the point that determining the exact threshold at which a city becomes economically non-viable for private business is not some abstract thought experiment; it is the job of actuaries. Once insurance companies decide that they won’t write policies on homes or businesses, especially real estate- and transportation-related policies, it’s municipal check mate because there will be few banks willing to lend and few businesses willing to risk the unbearable liabilities of operating in and sending their people through a war zone.
     
    There is a name for this. It is called "red lining". Redlining is evil, it is illegal, it is immoral, we are told. Redlining is the cause of black poverty just as sure as wet streets cause rain. If any insurance company or lender tries this then the wrath of the State will be upon them. President Bass (or whoever it is) will kick yo' ass.

    Replies: @Alice in Wonderland

  287. @Whiskey
    @Colin Wright

    Cops are gone and won't be coming back. Not in the next thirty years. People respond to incentives. Darren Wilson, Chauvin and the cops in Baltimore all ruined and it charged will have them guaranteed driving and waving for more than two generations.

    People are not light switches. No cop will ever trust any promises made by any politician. EVer.

    Chicago and NYC are just another Detroit now. As I repeatedly predicted.

    Cities are over.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    … cop will ever trust any promises made by any politician.

    that’s the funniest thing I’ve heard in weeks — a cop trusting a promise by a politician! I’ll have to remember that one.

  288. Is the United States becoming ungovernable or is it that those in a position to govern are incapable of governing it?

    The black lives matter protests are certainly an irritant, but we have a massive major problem with the mismanagement of the Corona virus epidemic, the country seems to be increasingly incapable of organizing democratic elections, for example the recent debacle in Puerto Rico, and questions about whether fair elections can be held in November. Americans are being excluded from travel to many countries in the world because of its failure to manage the Corona virus epidemic.

    It seems to me like the black lives matter protests are just a symptom of the general malaise, but they’re not very important, they are marginal, and will not change much of anything. The situation in Chicago is nowhere like the situation in Beirut, for example. Or the situation in Haiti after the earthquake in 2010, when there was practically no law enforcement because so much of law enforcement personnel had been killed.

    It is just a minor irritant and is not leading to a mass departure of the population from Chicago into refugee camps, or the collapse of real estate in the Chicago area, or business moving out of the Chicago area. At least I don’t think so.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Jonathan Mason


    The situation in Chicago is nowhere like the situation in Beirut, for example. Or the situation in Haiti after the earthquake in 2010, when there was practically no law enforcement because so much of law enforcement personnel had been killed.
     
    The Chinese are really SOL this year. Check out photos and y-tube videos of Yang-Tze river flooding -plus- The Three Gorges dam might blow or be breeched. When building it the Chinese claimed it was good for a once in a 1000 year flood.....hahahahah..... What a lie!

    Yang-Tze river flooding has ruined plenty of Chinese rice this year and other crops. Wuhan might be flooded..

    Replies: @Anonymous

  289. @Dave Pinsen
    Dems are playing with fire. Blue cities are in a downward spiral now of rising crime and shrinking tax bases. How many of the stores getting looted now in Chicago were looted earlier this summer? How many will risk reopening to get looted again?

    If Biden wins, Dems in Congress can pass a multi-trillion dollar bailout of the states, and Biden will sign it. Maybe they can limp along in that case with high crime but avoid fiscal disaster like Koch-era New York.

    If Trump wins, he will have the blue cities and states over a barrel, and be able to make demands about law enforcement (including immigration enforcement) in return for bailing them out.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt, @Harry Baldwin, @Mr. Anon, @AnotherDad, @MBlanc46

    Trump make demands? He might talk about making demands. He might say that he’s thinking about making demands. But demands will not be made.

  290. @Jack D
    @Buffalo Joe


    This shit would stop if one dem city told their teachers pay cuts were coming because the tax base is shrinking.
     
    That's not the plan. Pelosi has already decided to send trillions in Federal $ to the cities. For now, the Senate and Trump are not going along but after January there's a good chance that it will all be Dem controlled. Who needs a tax base if the Federal Reserve can just print up $? We are in a deflationary environment anyway so no one notices that printing $ is inflationary.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Dave Pinsen, @MBlanc46

    If Biden wins, the Dems will be test driving MMT like David Crosby test drove his new liver.

  291. @Anon
    @Clyde

    Fortunately, my package is coming from Texas. Screw you Jeff, I ordered it from Walmart.

    Despite the weeks of rioting and looting, my dingbat liberal relatives are as leftist as ever. They get their news solely from the NY Times and Wapo, which are suppressing the bad news. A liberal has to be physically assaulted before they'll change their mind.

    Replies: @Clyde, @Anonymousse

    Despite the weeks of rioting and looting, my dingbat liberal relatives are as leftist as ever. They get their news solely from the NY Times and Wapo, which are suppressing the bad news. A liberal has to be physically assaulted before they’ll change their mind.

    One physical assault or rape will not do it. A few assaults or incidents that cost them tens of thousands will or might. They might me sadomasochists too. And ethno-masochists.

  292. @Anon
    @Clyde

    Fortunately, my package is coming from Texas. Screw you Jeff, I ordered it from Walmart.

    Despite the weeks of rioting and looting, my dingbat liberal relatives are as leftist as ever. They get their news solely from the NY Times and Wapo, which are suppressing the bad news. A liberal has to be physically assaulted before they'll change their mind.

    Replies: @Clyde, @Anonymousse

    There will be a whole lot more changed minds soon.

  293. @El Dato
    @Clyde

    [[[Post-apocalyptic feeling intensifies]]]

    Meanwhile, Bezos takes a dump:

    As Bezos dumps over $3bn of Amazon shares, here’s why you should be worried

    Replies: @Clyde

    Bezos is cashing out some of his Amazon shares because he wants to buy a space program or something else. He is always fully invested in Amazon. Thpse shares are his piggy bank. They world financial bubble will blow who knows when, because it could have blown any time in the last ten years.

    It kinda blew in late 2008 but was successfully papered over. We got the Great Recession out of it.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Clyde

    Uh, he already has one of those.

    https://www.blueorigin.com/

  294. @Jack D
    @Buffalo Joe


    This shit would stop if one dem city told their teachers pay cuts were coming because the tax base is shrinking.
     
    That's not the plan. Pelosi has already decided to send trillions in Federal $ to the cities. For now, the Senate and Trump are not going along but after January there's a good chance that it will all be Dem controlled. Who needs a tax base if the Federal Reserve can just print up $? We are in a deflationary environment anyway so no one notices that printing $ is inflationary.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Dave Pinsen, @MBlanc46

    I’ve used up my meager allotment of Agrees, Jack, so I’ll have to type Agree.

  295. @Cloudbuster
    @Anonymous

    More depressing than that video is the universal approval of it in the Twitter replies.

    Replies: @Lurker

    More depressing than that video is the universal approval of it in the Twitter replies.

    Flies on shit.

  296. @black sea
    @Harry Baldwin

    If the majority of voters are actually OK with this kind of rampage, then there's not much Trump can do, but it hardly matters, since this would mean that many of America's largest cities are no longer under government control. However, I doubt the majority of voters are OK with BLM/Antifa chaos, regardless of what they are alleged to say in the polls.

    Trump should make it clear that he is offering federal law enforcement assistance to municipalities that want it, but that he won't try to impose it upon any city or state that doesn't. Every week that this mayhem goes on, Trump -- for all his faults -- looks a little stronger, or at least, a little less hapless and crazy, than his opponents.

    This is happening in cities with Democrat administrations, led by city officials who refuse to address the realities of a situation they've helped give birth to. If this is really what most Americans want, than the situation is beyond salvageable. But instead I suspect that the silent Trump vote is growing larger day by day.

    Replies: @Anon7, @MBlanc46

    You’re not taking Dem vote theft into account. They’ll steal more than enough to overwhelm whatever anti-riot feeling there might be.

  297. @Jim Christian
    Where'd ya find it, Steve? Chicago Trib and Second City Cop aren't talking (yet). Must be an extremely late-night/early morning 'event'?

    Replies: @Alden, @lysias, @kikz, @Jane Plain, @36 ulster, @Grace Jones

    News/Talk WBBM 780 has been talking about it all day.

  298. @Jonathan Mason
    Is the United States becoming ungovernable or is it that those in a position to govern are incapable of governing it?

    The black lives matter protests are certainly an irritant, but we have a massive major problem with the mismanagement of the Corona virus epidemic, the country seems to be increasingly incapable of organizing democratic elections, for example the recent debacle in Puerto Rico, and questions about whether fair elections can be held in November. Americans are being excluded from travel to many countries in the world because of its failure to manage the Corona virus epidemic.

    It seems to me like the black lives matter protests are just a symptom of the general malaise, but they're not very important, they are marginal, and will not change much of anything. The situation in Chicago is nowhere like the situation in Beirut, for example. Or the situation in Haiti after the earthquake in 2010, when there was practically no law enforcement because so much of law enforcement personnel had been killed.

    It is just a minor irritant and is not leading to a mass departure of the population from Chicago into refugee camps, or the collapse of real estate in the Chicago area, or business moving out of the Chicago area. At least I don't think so.

    Replies: @Clyde

    The situation in Chicago is nowhere like the situation in Beirut, for example. Or the situation in Haiti after the earthquake in 2010, when there was practically no law enforcement because so much of law enforcement personnel had been killed.

    The Chinese are really SOL this year. Check out photos and y-tube videos of Yang-Tze river flooding -plus- The Three Gorges dam might blow or be breeched. When building it the Chinese claimed it was good for a once in a 1000 year flood…..hahahahah….. What a lie!

    Yang-Tze river flooding has ruined plenty of Chinese rice this year and other crops. Wuhan might be flooded..

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Clyde

    China's leadership doesn't understand industrialization. They don't have an industrial economy, they have an import-export business, part and only part of a global network. Take away the network and they can't operate what they have -- no raw materials, no capital goods for some parts of the product completion chain. Should the 3 Gorges dam fail (and it might, the foundation is poor) China would have to turn inward again for several decades to recover.

    Back in 1914 the European countries had several new "technologies": cheap steel, nitrogen based explosives, medical techniques that could suppress killer epidemics among armies in the field for months or years, telephonic communication, trains, and so on. They built mass armies were looking for excuses to try out their new capabilities. The situation was rather like giving a ten year old a grenade and tellig him it was an Army weapon and would make a bang if he pulled the pin.

    I seriously hope that China survives long enough to learn how to handle what it now has.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @clyde, @Jack D

  299. @Anon7
    Just thought I'd pass on this comment from Twitter by T.y @Tybrazil1280:

    I have zero problem with the looting in Chicago.. Racist have stole from us every single fucking day for 400+ years.. IT IS JUSTIFIED
     
    That's one. I'd like to know how many more black people believe this.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @Colin Wright, @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @HammerJack

    And where did they get this notion ?

    From so-called “scholarship” (nearly all of it Jewish) which filtered through the mass media into their movies and TV shows.

    This is one of the reasons they’d never go back to Africa, despite claiming it’s so bad for them here. The Usual Suspects have convinced them that they deserve every penny white people have worked for these past few centuries.

    You see, it’ll be a cinch to swindle all of it back from their pets.

  300. @Rosie
    @Wake up


    And we are being told that as soon as “systemic racism” ends so will these crime sprees. Does anyone have anymore jokes they would like to share?
     
    I've been trying to put myself in the place of these elites lately to see what I can come up with. It occurs to me that, if indeed these riots are spontaneous rather than orchestrated, the elites feel they have no choice in how to respond. What message would it send, for example, to crack down on the looters?

    To crack down would, it seems, to imply that their conduct is inexcusable and beyond the pale. Is there a concern that this would vindicate "racists" or something? To be honest, it wouldn't surprise me. I wouldn't put it past these people to allow the total destruction of major cities rather than admit, however implicitly, that they've had it all wrong these past 70 years.

    Replies: @Kronos

    Yeah, there are some inconsistencies in comparing some riots/looting sprees to others. I kinda sense the riots happening within the core cities (Chicago) are much more spontaneous outbreaks of jungle fever. Those that occur in the suburbs or satellite cities seem more organized and potentially more influenced by Soros money. (I’m guessing Portland is a exception.)

    I mean, would Rahm Emanuel would be happy with the riots/looting in Chicago?

    • Agree: Rosie
  301. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, Apple is hosting Black women empowerment roundtables for their Apple Music subscribers, featuring successful Black women's tips and tricks for young black women just starting out to reach professional goals.

    Kind of the professional black female version of Jordan Peterson:

    https://twitter.com/sukihanagoat/status/1291778515285749760?s=20

    https://twitter.com/sukihanagoat/status/1291787002560614400?s=20

    Replies: @El Dato, @Clyde, @Saxon, @carol, @Cloudbuster, @Anonymous, @BB753, @Kibernetika

    Biden’s VP pick revealed! Hairstyle is suggestive of Fritz Lang’s Metropolis.

  302. @Buffalo Joe
    @Anonymous

    OneEightSix, wish one of these ass hats last words were..."I fucked up !"

    Replies: @Kronos

    Naaa, the last words are typically “mama,” “oh sheet,” “mothafu—(bang)” or “damn.”

  303. @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @James Speaks


    Until blacks learn moral reasoning in the abstract (never) they will remain unsuited to live in white society.
     
    Well the luck's on their side then, because our "Ruling Class" long ago decided to make "white society" a thing of the past. And not incidentally an object of such universal scorn and derision that even white people are delighted to see it gone.

    Some small minority will be able to figure out what most of us here already know, but it will be far too late and their numbers will be far too small.

    Replies: @Anonymousse

    Some small minority will be able to figure out what most of us here already know, but it will be far too late and their numbers will be far too small.

    Well gee willikers, I guess it’s hopeless and you should just off yourself then.

    These emotionally needy eyores posting demoralization are an absolute curse upon a people facing an uphill battle. Putting aside your personal emotional state (as men do) ask yourself… how you are helping posting that.

    And if you already KNOW it’s not helpful then ask yourself WHY EXACTLY are you doing it.

    Obviously it’s hard, but we can we be hard too. Cowboy TF up.

  304. @Jesse
    The internal logic seems to be that they can turn this off quietly if and when Biden enters office, thereby proving that the leftist approach to crime works forever and ever Amen. Blackmail, basically.

    It'd be interesting to see (1) if they can stop it and (2) if the people who comprise the tax base will believe the BS (in their own areas) and continue being the cash cows/sitting ducks.

    O/T: Canadian case of a landlord removing the windows and doors of the house of a woman who couldn't pay her rent. (Please, no crowing; don't go full trucon.) Of COURSE said landlord is Chinese, and of COURSE he's playing the innocent who didn't know it was both morally reprehensible and against the law. The future will be interesting; I'm getting more and more sympathetic to the anti Chinese pogroms you see in places like Malaysia and the Philippines.

    Replies: @Craig Nelsen

    The Bolsheviks used foreigners–primarily Chinese and (probably Jewish) Latvians–to do the heavy lifting as they genocided 66 million white Russian Christians in their own country. The foreigners served as personal security for the top Bolsheviks (overwhelmingly Jewish), were relied on for mass executions, were the support staff for the torture and execution chambers of the CheKa, and carried out intra-military punishments.

    Look for the Chinese Exclusion Act to take its place alongside the Tuskeegee syphyllis hoax as one of the most important events in American history.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Craig Nelsen

    Yes, the Russians dindu nuffin. It was them Chinese that dun it. They were so clever that not even a single photo exists as proof.

  305. @notsaying
    @Lot

    The Daily Mail is great for providing lots of pictures and often has details other places don't. I checked them out early this morning though and they had nothing about the looting. Neither did the Chicago Tribune; those newspaper staffing cuts obviously have gone deep when you don't even have a banner at the top of the page announcing major events like this looting. It was sad to see.

    Replies: @Lot, @Lurker

    In 2014 they were the only news outlet to publish a photo of a white cuck, sorry protestor, shot by his fellow black protestors.

    In fact I think they may have been the only English language outlet to cover the story at all. They didn’t identify him but the photo gave the game away.

    For me it was a key event – it destroyed The Narrative in a near-perfect manner.

    I could never find out any more on the story, it’s like it never happened! Still, I’m sure six years is enough time for him to have recovered and demonstrate all over again about police brutality this summer.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  306. @Anonymous
    @El Dato



    I don’t know whether Steve Jobs would approve. I would say no.
     
    I am rather under the impression that Jobs was not the sort to give in to shakedowns.

    I don't know how well remembered it is today, but when Apple wanted to expand their corporate campus a decade ago, the Cupertino City Council tried to shake down Apple for free iPads and Wi-fi.

    Long story short, the city council expected A Big Haul. What they got, instead, was The Big Freeze:


    "You see, I’m a simpleton. I’ve always had this view that we pay taxes and the city should do those things. Now if we can get out of paying taxes, I’d be glad to put up Wi Fi."

     

    You can find an overview of what happened here:

    http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=35771

    In any case, Tim Cook is now in charge of Apple...and it shows.

    No doubt we can look forward to Mr. Cook putting on a "BLM is in us all!" rally that will culminate in a black man sodomising him onstage. Anything to burnish Apple's SJW credentials.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    No doubt we can look forward to Mr. Cook putting on a “BLM is in us all!” rally that will culminate in a black man sodomising him onstage. Anything to burnish Apple’s SJW credentials.

    I can see no downside to this.

  307. Where have you gone, Morgan Freeman?
    Our Nation turns it’s lonely eyes to you.
    Woo woo woo…

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
  308. @Mr. Anon
    @Dave Pinsen


    If Trump wins, he will have the blue cities and states over a barrel, and be able to make demands about law enforcement (including immigration enforcement) in return for bailing them out.
     
    True. And yet he won't. He'll just tweet about what an awesome job he's doing and about how he should be added to Mount Rushmore.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8610013/White-House-reached-South-Dakota-governor-adding-Trump-Mount-Rushmore.html

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @HallParvey, @Brutusale, @Ron Mexico

    The issue of Trump being added to Mount Rushmore should be put to a vote in the Senate.

  309. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous



    That’s the Democrats plan. Shutdown the economy. Riot away. All their constituencies will get bailed out. Screw the future!
     
    Agree, that’s their plan. Won’t work this time. 2020 is the year when the money runs out, securities can’t be sold at a low interest rated, the resources bought with the money raised will be inadequate, the money used will be spent on political disputes rather than what’s needed physically.
     
    Not yet.

    The money really did run out for Britain in 1945, because there was a more credible world reserve currency. But it took a lot of years--the US had thoroughly surpassed Britain in every economic measure over a half century before.

    What's kept life cozy in the US--as our elites trash the joint with "diversity" and government and finance and grifting replacing productive activity--is that there is no credible replacement power/currency.

    Obviously the candidate is China, but they have their own set of issues. Chicom thugs in charge.
    Everything is opaque. Nothing can be trusted. They are still trade oriented. Despite having spent massively on internal improvements it is still not fully an internally driven economy. And instead of cracking the nut of getting to stable eugenic fertility--on which their long term future depends--they are off doing prickling, pissant stuff with Tibet, India, the Uighurs, the Tajiks.

    So until the Chinese get their stuff together ... people are willing to take dollars. And that's not stopping in 2020.

    Biden wins the Democrats are going to be ladled out dollars to their favored constituencies hand over fist. You think you can just mind your own business in your non-diverse redoubt? Wrong. The value of the assets you've built will erode. The value of your income will erode. The future prosperity of the nation will erode. You, your children, your grandchildren, your posterity ... are all going to pay and pay and pay.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Anonymous

    You, your children, your grandchildren, your posterity … are all going to pay and pay and pay.

    You really seem enthused about this. Actually, things aren’t that bad.

    The Blacks and Latinx use more Federal “services” than they pay in taxes. The amount is suprising– about 0.8 trillion dollars (8E11 USD). And that’s just excess Federal “services”. The word is in quotes because it inclufes courts an prisons.

    Note that this does not include the cost of patronage jobs in salary and in having incompetents in crucial positions, the value destruction of real estate, the opportunity costs from capital diversion, the cost of dumbing Whites down so that they can at least communicate Latinx and Blacks, the cost of shipping industry overseas to pay for current subsidies, and so on. All one can really say is that these costs are substantial.

    Actually, since the Federal Government has also had its legitimacy demolished, the Federal bureaucracy can be mostly sent home, and that money sink will also end.

    Now, the Chicago riots ended both the last high status economic activity in Chicago and the last little shred of legitimacy for subsidizing the cities (**), all that can be diverted to paying the national debt and industrial development. The amount owed should be paid off in a generation, with money left over to fund ample industrial recovery and expansion to a Kondratief Spring.

    Couldn’t happen? Could happen in the USSR. Did happen in the USSR and the Warsaw Pact countries.

    (**) which is why the Chicago Mayor is so unhappy. She had a perfectly good con going on, and now it’s spoiled. Al Capone couldn’t have given a more impassioned speech. She means nothing of the rational content, but the flat rage over a spoiled racket comes right through, as does the “we’re coming for you” part. The Chicago riots are an historic marker — the end, or at least the beginning of he end, of massive subsidies to urban areas, and the Mayor knows it.

    Note the current negotiations between President Trump and the House leadership. Trump proposes a trillion dollars relief, the Democrats propose a trillion for relief and two trillion for their NGOs and other Party efforts – essentially, two trillion dollars subsidy to urban areas. Trump’s response is genius — he cuts payroll taxes, giving relief money to people who do not live in cities, and continues the unemployment bonus but at a rate that makes a job preferable to continuing on unemployment. This is the sort of thing I discuss above — the end of subsidies to cities.

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @Anonymous

    So why doesn't Herzonner simply order the Chicago Police to go out and "bust some heads", Richard Dailey, style.

    I mean, what are people going to do to her? "I'm Bad, I'm Black, I lead the Gang with the Most Gats, so take that, suckas!"

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Ben tillman
    @Anonymous

    I enjoyed reading something that was both optimistic and tethered to reality in some important ways.

    “Opportunity costs from capital diversion” — Hear! Hear!

    Only working people pay payroll taxes, so maybe Trump is starting to get a clue.

    , @Ben tillman
    @Anonymous


    The Blacks and Latinx use more Federal “services” than they pay in taxes. The amount is suprising– about 0.8 trillion dollars (8E11 USD).
     
    I recently did a bit of arithmetic. Every billion dollars in federal outlays costs my family of four $25 to $30.

    Eight hundred billion means $20,000+ from my family, which is more than enough to cover private school tuition for two children. Of course, that cost would not be necessary if not for an unfunded federal forced-immigration mandate, which is one thing you left out of your accounting.

  310. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde
    @Jonathan Mason


    The situation in Chicago is nowhere like the situation in Beirut, for example. Or the situation in Haiti after the earthquake in 2010, when there was practically no law enforcement because so much of law enforcement personnel had been killed.
     
    The Chinese are really SOL this year. Check out photos and y-tube videos of Yang-Tze river flooding -plus- The Three Gorges dam might blow or be breeched. When building it the Chinese claimed it was good for a once in a 1000 year flood.....hahahahah..... What a lie!

    Yang-Tze river flooding has ruined plenty of Chinese rice this year and other crops. Wuhan might be flooded..

    Replies: @Anonymous

    China’s leadership doesn’t understand industrialization. They don’t have an industrial economy, they have an import-export business, part and only part of a global network. Take away the network and they can’t operate what they have — no raw materials, no capital goods for some parts of the product completion chain. Should the 3 Gorges dam fail (and it might, the foundation is poor) China would have to turn inward again for several decades to recover.

    Back in 1914 the European countries had several new “technologies”: cheap steel, nitrogen based explosives, medical techniques that could suppress killer epidemics among armies in the field for months or years, telephonic communication, trains, and so on. They built mass armies were looking for excuses to try out their new capabilities. The situation was rather like giving a ten year old a grenade and tellig him it was an Army weapon and would make a bang if he pulled the pin.

    I seriously hope that China survives long enough to learn how to handle what it now has.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Absolute, complete 100% unadulterated pure bull shit.

    Either you are:
    1/. Profoundly ignorant of the truth of today's world.
    2/. Have an anti- Chinese axe to grind.

    I suspect reason 2/.

    , @clyde
    @Anonymous

    Look at Three Gorges today. The water below the dam is almost as high as the water above. Maybe 100ft difference. This is killing/dissolving the submerged for months foundation.

    , @Jack D
    @Anonymous


    They don’t have an industrial economy,
     
    If the Chinese don't have an industrial economy, then what do we have?

    https://www.worldsteel.org/en/dam/jcr:914bc3b7-7cf9-4465-b4e6-6d8805971537/pies.jpg

    It's not just steel - in product after product, the Chinese produce the majority (or in some cases virtually all) of the global output.

    Of course they are part of the system of world trade and depend (in part) on imports of certain raw materials and on exports of finished goods. However, their domestic market (over a billion people) gets bigger and bigger every year and they are working to shore up their supply lines so that they won't include the US. They have already effectively sealed off their internet.

    Sure right now they could not go it alone without taking a big hit but long term the trend is in the other direction. China goes thru periodic swings where it opens itself up to the rest of the world and then closes itself down and now it is swinging in the direction of closing.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

  311. @Anon
    @gutta percha

    There's a reason why older European cities don't put their violent welfare population in housing that's near the city center. They stick them way out as far as they can get so the nasty blacks have to put in some serious commuting time to be able to rob.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    That is *CERTAINLY* *NOT* true of London, England.

  312. @Anonymous
    @Clyde

    China's leadership doesn't understand industrialization. They don't have an industrial economy, they have an import-export business, part and only part of a global network. Take away the network and they can't operate what they have -- no raw materials, no capital goods for some parts of the product completion chain. Should the 3 Gorges dam fail (and it might, the foundation is poor) China would have to turn inward again for several decades to recover.

    Back in 1914 the European countries had several new "technologies": cheap steel, nitrogen based explosives, medical techniques that could suppress killer epidemics among armies in the field for months or years, telephonic communication, trains, and so on. They built mass armies were looking for excuses to try out their new capabilities. The situation was rather like giving a ten year old a grenade and tellig him it was an Army weapon and would make a bang if he pulled the pin.

    I seriously hope that China survives long enough to learn how to handle what it now has.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @clyde, @Jack D

    Absolute, complete 100% unadulterated pure bull shit.

    Either you are:
    1/. Profoundly ignorant of the truth of today’s world.
    2/. Have an anti- Chinese axe to grind.

    I suspect reason 2/.

  313. @Anonymous
    @Clyde

    China's leadership doesn't understand industrialization. They don't have an industrial economy, they have an import-export business, part and only part of a global network. Take away the network and they can't operate what they have -- no raw materials, no capital goods for some parts of the product completion chain. Should the 3 Gorges dam fail (and it might, the foundation is poor) China would have to turn inward again for several decades to recover.

    Back in 1914 the European countries had several new "technologies": cheap steel, nitrogen based explosives, medical techniques that could suppress killer epidemics among armies in the field for months or years, telephonic communication, trains, and so on. They built mass armies were looking for excuses to try out their new capabilities. The situation was rather like giving a ten year old a grenade and tellig him it was an Army weapon and would make a bang if he pulled the pin.

    I seriously hope that China survives long enough to learn how to handle what it now has.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @clyde, @Jack D

    Look at Three Gorges today. The water below the dam is almost as high as the water above. Maybe 100ft difference. This is killing/dissolving the submerged for months foundation.

  314. The way the Democrats probably see it is that once Biden is in office they can stop bashing the police and let the cops do their job.

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @Joe Walker

    They can’t. Seattle already cut its police force. So has NYC. So has LA. And in every city the Soros das are not charging black and brown criminals.

    No cop will do anything other than chase donuts for the next thirty years. No black or brown criminal need fear prison for the next thirty years.

    Cities across the US will be Detroit or Baltimore. Recall I predicted this.

    Meanwhile the influence of the Purge movies grows, it is the dream of AOC and Omar and Tlaib, the leaders of the party. That is the future.

  315. @El Dato
    Meanwhile, taking personal interest in your whereabouts and deploying the Junior Social Distancing League

    https://i.postimg.cc/YSzTLqPR/Chicago-at-2020-08-10-09-15-UTC.png

    https://postimg.cc/KK40dFx3

    Replies: @mmack, @36 ulster, @Piglet

    Other than a blonde in a black bikini on the right side of the picture, everyone in this picture is male, a clear sign this is a gay beach. I’m surprised lesbo Mayor Groot didn’t just look the other way.

  316. @YetAnotherAnon
    An then they came for ... Camptown Races.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8608291/Pianist-plays-Camptown-Races-OAP-singalong-charity-erupts-race-row.html

    Replies: @mmack, @Piglet

    Rap “music” about guns, bitches, drug dealing, murder, stealing, killing cops, etc., remains okay.

  317. @Jack D
    @Peter Johnson

    https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/08/10/us/10reuters-usa-chicago-looting.html?searchResultPosition=5

    Replies: @Peter Johnson

    Eventually, even the New York Times had to allow the Reuters feed to appear, but they did their best to delay and downplay the story. Later they published a short article on it with a New York Times byline, with very carefully curated pictures showing nothing of interest. Can you see the carefully managed spin they put on this?

  318. @notsaying
    @Jane Plain

    I saw a tweet from either a New York News or Post reporter who said law enforcement told him that the New York looting was done by gangs. I saw on internet at the time that was bad and it was multiple Manhattan neighborhoods and some of the cars had out of state plates. Given how many people were involved and the speed and efficiency they cleaned out stores, that makes sense to me. In New York on Twitter a lot of people commented on the expensive cars that were used.

    I am not in New York or Chicago so I am not the expert on this. But I am assuming gangs were primarily responsible for what happened in Chicago too. It is disconcerting to say the least to know there is a reserve Army of people in America who are able and willing to come out with no advance notice and target our biggest stores and suck out everything from the smaller ones. This tells me nobody even knows what is happening in the shadows in our own country. We are all just sitting ducks really. When are we ever going to go after the gangs?

    Replies: @Jane Plain

    Oh, you saw a tweet?

    In other words, you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about.

    It’s a waste of time refuting your points one by one, because none of them hold water.

    The looting was confined to three areas: SoHo, 34th Street, and the Bronx, and in the Bronx, the Dominicans took care of business. The looters were so stupid that they looted Macy’s and not Harry Winston. I’m sure you know what Harry Winston is.

    The overwhelming majority of the city was, and is, untouched.

    The real harm has been done to NYC by de Blasio and Cuomo with their overreaction to Covid19.

    Shut up.

  319. @hhsiii
    @AnotherDad

    I gotta say that NY, while being tax and spend, was actually fairly balanced at the State level. The pension is much better funded than NJ, for example (although that's not the State's budget). New York, for whatever Cuomo and DeBlasio's faults in dealing with Covid (and it seems people want it both ways, that they acted too slowly, but were also too draconian), and well, anything else, one should acknowedge a bit of this is a bit the nature of the beast. It's a packed city, massive subway system, lots of international and national travel through it. The Feds ARE giving trilions not just "to the people" but also to corporations.

    I know a lot of people will just say good riddance to the blue cities. But I don't see why they should just be ceded or allowed to melt down. And for years NY has been a net contributor to the feds (ok, so just feeding a different beast).

    Ultimately there'll be horse-trading on this I imagine. Maybe post-election either way.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @HammerJack

    Pelosi and Schumer are holding up the corona relief bill demanding another trillion dollars for democrat states and cities. They’ll happily let millions starve and get evicted because they know that the media will blame Trump.

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/debt-by-state

  320. @Negrolphin Pool
    @Stonewall Jackson

    The graffitti is on the wall at this point. Chicago's elites are insane to continue allowing this to happen. But this begs the question if there are more than a sprinkling of those left who could be described as Chicago elites at all. Or has what was once an identifiable business and cultural community with a real local identity been supplanted by the Boeing and Aon C-suiters to an extent that the once great city is just another fungible node in the global network?

    The basic calculus is clear enough. Once businesses deem local operations to be unprofitable, you end up with ever increasing amounts of vacant real estate. Zillow has the median Detroit home value at $36k. But that doesn't factor in the 35% of homes that have been razed and probably close to that portion again that currently stand vacant. Vacant homes and those that have been torn down are worthless by definition. Similar circumstances prevail in Detroit's commercial real estate sector outside of downtown.

    A commenter on ZeroHedge made the point that determining the exact threshold at which a city becomes economically non-viable for private business is not some abstract thought experiment; it is the job of actuaries. Once insurance companies decide that they won't write policies on homes or businesses, especially real estate- and transportation-related policies, it's municipal check mate because there will be few banks willing to lend and few businesses willing to risk the unbearable liabilities of operating in and sending their people through a war zone.

    Maybe Jussie Smollett and the rest of the Gold Coast chic radicals, if they have an ounce of basic economic sense, might want to consider that the lower bound on their $10 million penthouses is exactly the same as the hundreds of units that until recently sat vacant for decades in Detroit's iconic neoclassical Book Cadillac tower: zero.

    Replies: @Jack D

    A commenter on ZeroHedge made the point that determining the exact threshold at which a city becomes economically non-viable for private business is not some abstract thought experiment; it is the job of actuaries. Once insurance companies decide that they won’t write policies on homes or businesses, especially real estate- and transportation-related policies, it’s municipal check mate because there will be few banks willing to lend and few businesses willing to risk the unbearable liabilities of operating in and sending their people through a war zone.

    There is a name for this. It is called “red lining”. Redlining is evil, it is illegal, it is immoral, we are told. Redlining is the cause of black poverty just as sure as wet streets cause rain. If any insurance company or lender tries this then the wrath of the State will be upon them. President Bass (or whoever it is) will kick yo’ ass.

    • Replies: @Alice in Wonderland
    @Jack D

    So that is why we keep hearing about redlining

  321. @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad


    You, your children, your grandchildren, your posterity … are all going to pay and pay and pay.
     
    You really seem enthused about this. Actually, things aren't that bad.

    The Blacks and Latinx use more Federal "services" than they pay in taxes. The amount is suprising-- about 0.8 trillion dollars (8E11 USD). And that's just excess Federal "services". The word is in quotes because it inclufes courts an prisons.

    Note that this does not include the cost of patronage jobs in salary and in having incompetents in crucial positions, the value destruction of real estate, the opportunity costs from capital diversion, the cost of dumbing Whites down so that they can at least communicate Latinx and Blacks, the cost of shipping industry overseas to pay for current subsidies, and so on. All one can really say is that these costs are substantial.

    Actually, since the Federal Government has also had its legitimacy demolished, the Federal bureaucracy can be mostly sent home, and that money sink will also end.

    Now, the Chicago riots ended both the last high status economic activity in Chicago and the last little shred of legitimacy for subsidizing the cities (**), all that can be diverted to paying the national debt and industrial development. The amount owed should be paid off in a generation, with money left over to fund ample industrial recovery and expansion to a Kondratief Spring.

    Couldn't happen? Could happen in the USSR. Did happen in the USSR and the Warsaw Pact countries.

    (**) which is why the Chicago Mayor is so unhappy. She had a perfectly good con going on, and now it's spoiled. Al Capone couldn't have given a more impassioned speech. She means nothing of the rational content, but the flat rage over a spoiled racket comes right through, as does the "we're coming for you" part. The Chicago riots are an historic marker -- the end, or at least the beginning of he end, of massive subsidies to urban areas, and the Mayor knows it.
    https://youtu.be/79WTeoE8TJk?t=15




    Note the current negotiations between President Trump and the House leadership. Trump proposes a trillion dollars relief, the Democrats propose a trillion for relief and two trillion for their NGOs and other Party efforts - essentially, two trillion dollars subsidy to urban areas. Trump's response is genius -- he cuts payroll taxes, giving relief money to people who do not live in cities, and continues the unemployment bonus but at a rate that makes a job preferable to continuing on unemployment. This is the sort of thing I discuss above -- the end of subsidies to cities.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @Ben tillman, @Ben tillman

    So why doesn’t Herzonner simply order the Chicago Police to go out and “bust some heads”, Richard Dailey, style.

    I mean, what are people going to do to her? “I’m Bad, I’m Black, I lead the Gang with the Most Gats, so take that, suckas!”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Inquiring Mind


    So why doesn’t Herzonner simply order the Chicago Police to go out and “bust some heads”, Richard Dailey, style.
     
    Force isn't as useful as you might think. Consider the Vietnam War or the occupation of Iraq or the US and USSR attempts at preserving the rule of cities in Afghanistan. It is easy end up with a force that has no legitimacy, which means that it controls only the ground that it stands on, which ground may very well be mined. A heavily armed force may go in and simply destroy everything and kill everybody, but they typically can't do it for an entire country (or city), and if they did then the entire sponsoring country might find itself without either legitimacy or anybody who cared to risk trading with it.

    With police, the problem is worse. Police are "men of the polis" or "men of the city". They are supposed to arrest (stop) people who are violating social norms as codified by law. If the law doesn't codify social norms, the police eventually find themselves controlling the ground they stand on, and (since the city government is elected) told by their superiors that they can't even do that -- they have to stand for abuse, various projectiles thrown at them, and in some cases organized assaults with intent to kill (Portland, OR) (*).

    So the Mayor can't just say "OK, today you all wear pink undies on the outside" and have the police enforce it. The police aren't supposed to enforce such violations of the social norms. For that matter, if the entire civil populace decides to defy all governmental authority, to "fight and win and loot and burn, but all in moderation" as the song goes, then the police aren't called in. The National Guard is called in, with backup from the Army, as in the 1968 riots.

    What the mayors have been trying to do is keep a lid on things while their actual ability to govern diminishes with the city's budget and infrastructure. Lid's off, and the Chicago Mayor is finally speaking her (?? I'm not sure of the preferred pronoun in this case) mind, having nothing to lose (or gain, for that matter).

    *) or for the more sedate, the phrase "I want a lawyer immediately" is recommended as the only thing to say to police. Makes them just as ineffective as a missile throwing mob. I tell you, I miss effective peace officers.
  322. Anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    T Crimmins notices:

    “It’s depressing how ritualized it is now”

    I respond.

    I’m left behind in this beautiful University of Chicago SS neighborhood. The Obama’s made it their political/cultural base of operation. Now they have dined and dashed and hang out in a DC Diplomat neighborhood and just closed on a $12 million estate on Martha’s Vineyard MA where there are ~ 0 % poor Black AA. Their Hyde Park Kenwood mansion has sat vacant and they only come back to assist in the Obama Foundation stealing our Jackson Park (Andy Jackson not Jessie Jackson Park) for their Obama Presidential Center – some 23 story high rise Black Liberation Theology Temple/training center – not a Presidential Library in the historic tradition.

    Our neighborhood got hit semi hard in the first round of George Floyd BLM protests, riots, planned looting.

    But we were also hit for 3 consecutive Halloweens by mobs of other neighborhood mobs coming in to enact “The Purge” something to do with some violent Hollywood movie claiming White racists in the Government conspire to incite poor Blacks to riot, loot, kill people, mostly each other.

    Our community handles these annual Halloween Black flash mob “Purges” . I think we’ll do the same with Black Lies Matter Antifa flash mobs, riots, looting.

    Yes, Mr. Crimmins It’s depressing about how regular and how ritualized this is.

    We’re all waiting for some Corsican Napoleon to shoot cannons in to rampaging urban mobs – in our Chicago case the mobs are all Black AA.

    In the meantime, we’ll find ways to get by – I’m in Hyde Park Chicago, a place where Blacks and Whites (Jews and Gays) work together to keep out the poor 🙂

    Here’s a cartoon we made just noticing Chicago/Illinois Demorat pols and efforts to Defund/Refund the police:

    https://artoffarstar88.wordpress.com/2020/08/10/refund-the-police/

    • Replies: @cityview
    @Anonymous

    I didn't think the Jackson Park area or anywhere in Chicago was the right place for the Obama library/cultural center. I thought it should have gone to Manhattan. I thought the Obamas should have sold their Kenwood house years ago--they will never live here again.

  323. @Anonymous
    @Clyde

    China's leadership doesn't understand industrialization. They don't have an industrial economy, they have an import-export business, part and only part of a global network. Take away the network and they can't operate what they have -- no raw materials, no capital goods for some parts of the product completion chain. Should the 3 Gorges dam fail (and it might, the foundation is poor) China would have to turn inward again for several decades to recover.

    Back in 1914 the European countries had several new "technologies": cheap steel, nitrogen based explosives, medical techniques that could suppress killer epidemics among armies in the field for months or years, telephonic communication, trains, and so on. They built mass armies were looking for excuses to try out their new capabilities. The situation was rather like giving a ten year old a grenade and tellig him it was an Army weapon and would make a bang if he pulled the pin.

    I seriously hope that China survives long enough to learn how to handle what it now has.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @clyde, @Jack D

    They don’t have an industrial economy,

    If the Chinese don’t have an industrial economy, then what do we have?

    It’s not just steel – in product after product, the Chinese produce the majority (or in some cases virtually all) of the global output.

    Of course they are part of the system of world trade and depend (in part) on imports of certain raw materials and on exports of finished goods. However, their domestic market (over a billion people) gets bigger and bigger every year and they are working to shore up their supply lines so that they won’t include the US. They have already effectively sealed off their internet.

    Sure right now they could not go it alone without taking a big hit but long term the trend is in the other direction. China goes thru periodic swings where it opens itself up to the rest of the world and then closes itself down and now it is swinging in the direction of closing.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jack D


    Sure right now they could not go it alone without taking a big hit but long term the trend is in the other direction.
     
    And I hope china makes it into the long term, gets past the import/export business to some kind of autarky. Leaders have a bad habit of overestimating their capabilities and underestimating just how badly things can go. A salient example now is the US policy of supporting its urban areas after they'd lost their economic natural monopolies. After all, what could go wrong? Everybody knew that cities had dominated their societies (except in nomadic or tribal societies) since the early Bronze Age. What could possibly be wrong with helping US cities over a rough patch? Well, here in 2020, the answer is obvious.

    By the same token, China is only trying to restore its historic regional status, and perhaps extend it to the entire world. China has risen quickly, other societies are clearly in trouble, China's historic status is obviously (to China and some neutrals) deserved. What could possibly go wrong?

    I hope China and the rest of us don't find out. In the meantime, consider the risks of the current floods, or the land inadvertently poisoned under some of Mao's agricultural projects. Industrial society is trickier than it looks.

    Seriously, China is one of civilization's eyes, and it would be a disaster for humanity if that eye closed (however celebratory the short term reaction of China's adjacent countries might be). I hope it wills say open.
    , @Anonymous
    @Jack D


    If the Chinese don’t have an industrial economy, then what do we have?
     
    A very good and pertinent question! The US is one of the few nations in the world that is effectively autarkic. It has enough remnants of its former complete industrial economy to survive (at a lower level to be sure) without imports. This may change -- for example, fracking has proven uneconomic and could be entirely shut down. That would end autarky as energy independence is lost.
    Considering the national and international situation, in which a much worse version of 2008 is a possibility, autarky might actually be important in the real world.

    I seriously hope that nothing of the sort happens. However, if it did, the US would not have to turn predatory on an international scale simply to support its population in a basic, but livable, economy. That would be good for everybody.
  324. 90% of the looters spent at least 10 years in public school; about ⅗ of them graduated high school.

    The schools loot the taxpayers.

  325. Until blacks learn moral reasoning in the abstract (never) they will remain unsuited to live in white society.

    What is this “white society” thing I keep hearing about?
    Like in the old movies? I thought that was all special effects…

  326. Just resetting my name and addy. The add a reaction buttons are not working for some reason.

  327. @Mr. Anon
    @Dave Pinsen


    If Trump wins, he will have the blue cities and states over a barrel, and be able to make demands about law enforcement (including immigration enforcement) in return for bailing them out.
     
    True. And yet he won't. He'll just tweet about what an awesome job he's doing and about how he should be added to Mount Rushmore.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8610013/White-House-reached-South-Dakota-governor-adding-Trump-Mount-Rushmore.html

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @HallParvey, @Brutusale, @Ron Mexico

    True. And yet he won’t. He’ll just tweet about what an awesome job he’s doing and about how he should be added to Mount Rushmore.

    And he should. Quite possibly as America’s last President. Washington to Trump. Not a bad run. An experiment in freedom from dictatorship that was unique in the history of the world. Sadly compromised when the meaning of the words in the constitution became open to interpretation by The Supremes.

  328. @Joe Walker
    The way the Democrats probably see it is that once Biden is in office they can stop bashing the police and let the cops do their job.

    Replies: @Whiskey

    They can’t. Seattle already cut its police force. So has NYC. So has LA. And in every city the Soros das are not charging black and brown criminals.

    No cop will do anything other than chase donuts for the next thirty years. No black or brown criminal need fear prison for the next thirty years.

    Cities across the US will be Detroit or Baltimore. Recall I predicted this.

    Meanwhile the influence of the Purge movies grows, it is the dream of AOC and Omar and Tlaib, the leaders of the party. That is the future.

  329. anon[239] • Disclaimer says:

    This isn’t really looting. Nope. What it is?

    Reparations.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8614105/Chicago-goes-lockdown-bridges-raised-freeway-exits-closed-restrict-access-downtown.html

    Black Lives Matter Chicago said early Monday’s looting of stores was a form of ‘reparations’ as the group held a protest Monday night in support of the more than 100 people arrested after an evening of violence.

    Ariel Atkins, a BLM organizer, called the looting ‘reparations’.

    ‘I don’t care if someone decides to loot a Gucci or a Macy’s or a Nike store, because that makes sure that person eats,’ Atkins said. ‘That makes sure that person has clothes.’Anything they wanted to take, they can take it because these businesses have insurance.’

    Redefining the idea of “insurance” into “gibs” is not new. But it used to be rejected.

  330. @Mr. Anon
    @Dave Pinsen


    If Trump wins, he will have the blue cities and states over a barrel, and be able to make demands about law enforcement (including immigration enforcement) in return for bailing them out.
     
    True. And yet he won't. He'll just tweet about what an awesome job he's doing and about how he should be added to Mount Rushmore.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8610013/White-House-reached-South-Dakota-governor-adding-Trump-Mount-Rushmore.html

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @HallParvey, @Brutusale, @Ron Mexico

    Yeah, because no president has ever had any sycophantic follows that would do such a thing for him.

  331. @John Johnson
    @Alfa158

    Based on the video clips I’ve seen, the Chicago police seem to be astonishingly White given the overall demographics. I wonder if this is a result of entrenched legacy systems you see in these older large urban areas where the best way to become a cop or firefighter is by being the fourth generation of your family in that line of work.

    Has nothing to do with entrenched family lines.

    They can't find enough qualified and willing Blacks even with recruitment bonuses.

    This is true all over the country.

    Most of those White Chicago cops don't live in the city. Their families are out in the burbs and the come into the city to work 3 12s. Sometimes they stay in hotels because the commute is so long.

    There is an army of Whites that come into the city of Chicago to keep it running. I had a recruiter somehow get ahold of an old resume of mine and I was offered a 6 figure salary to work downtown. It was a lousy resume and none of references were contactable.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Boston’s PD stays mostly white and Irish due to residency laws for city employment.

    https://www.boston.gov/departments/human-resources/residency-requirements-city-workers

    Funny that Boston, as blue a burg as exists in America, hasn’t suffered the sane idiocies that have plagued its moonbat sister cities.

    • Replies: @Aeronerauk
    @Brutusale

    Boston is a "racist town," don't you know? ESPN runs a story on it every other week.

    Please note that this is no longer the case, but in the past ethnic whites, specifically Irish, kept the blacks shall we say, properly fearful of white neighborhoods. Black Bostonians are also smaller demographically than their counterparts in other big cities.

    Lucky for them the white Irish Bostonians who assumed every black in their neighborhood was up to no good have left. Replaced by friendlier, college educated yuppies who vote Democrat not to support unions like their predecessors, but to oppose that great evil of our time, racism.

  332. @Clyde
    @El Dato

    Bezos is cashing out some of his Amazon shares because he wants to buy a space program or something else. He is always fully invested in Amazon. Thpse shares are his piggy bank. They world financial bubble will blow who knows when, because it could have blown any time in the last ten years.

    It kinda blew in late 2008 but was successfully papered over. We got the Great Recession out of it.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Uh, he already has one of those.

    https://www.blueorigin.com/

  333. There is no faster way to re-segregation than the anonymous Black populace violently acting out against every day crime control. The only unknown variable is what the method back toward it looks like.

    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @bruce county
    @Anon

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=452XjnaHr1A&feature=emb_logo

  334. @Anon
    There is no faster way to re-segregation than the anonymous Black populace violently acting out against every day crime control. The only unknown variable is what the method back toward it looks like.

    Replies: @bruce county

  335. Conservative morons have played into this by focusing on the tiny white liberal pantomime play riots in Portland and Seattle and ignoring the massive 1960’s style black riots in Chicago, Philadelphia, NYC, LA and other cities. Conservatives have done everything they can to deracialize the discourse around the riots. Everything from conservatives this year has been “lowest black unemployment ever, Democrats are the real racists, blacks gonna vote for Trump.”

    We on the dissident right have to do more to break those kinds of narratives.

  336. @Peterike
    Interesting that the worst mayor in America is either a ghastly black lesbian or a brain dead white guy married to a ghastly black lesbian.

    Who saw that coming?

    Replies: @Muggles, @Trinity

    >>Interesting that the worst mayor in America is either a ghastly black lesbian or a brain dead white guy married to a ghastly black lesbian.

    Who saw that coming?<<

    Hmmmm… Maybe Pat Buchanan circa 1992.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Muggles



    Interesting that the worst mayor in America is either a ghastly black lesbian or a brain dead white guy married to a ghastly black lesbian.

    Who saw that coming?
     
    Hmmmm… Maybe Pat Buchanan circa 1992.
     
    And Thomas Jefferson circa 1800:



    https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-i-view-great-cities-as-pestilential-to-the-morals-the-health-and-the-liberties-of-man-thomas-jefferson-57-5-0548.jpg



    BTW, what are you implying about Ezola?
  337. Anon[165] • Disclaimer says:

    With Jews, you always lose:

    https://www.fox9.com/news/minnesota-nonprofit-with-35m-bails-out-those-accused-of-violent-crimes?fbclid=IwAR3LUZz_8obX2BrNO4_qvjRFd3T4TZVEUDWOV9ufNQ2f3YCsfvMclpNwG88

    https://mnfreedomfund.org/greg-lewin

    They are freeing the devil, allowing him to further victimize innocents in the Whitest major city in the United States.

    This guy is out of a German anti-Jewish-Bolshevik poster.

    I would guess that the German cartoons weren’t actually so exaggerated.

  338. After some time, I visited Israeli TOI (they’re subscription free, now & then a good article). Seems that some people, despite usual mantras, are beginning to see…

    To the Jews in my city: Want to help end racial segregation? First do this

    Ari Kirschbaum

    100% agree!!!! Self loathing liberal/LEFTIST/SOCIALIST JINOs must admit to their racist, segregationist policies of the past 60-70 years!!! YOU caused the decline in education throughout the country. YOU have kept black Americans impoverished and on welfare. YOU are responsible.

    David Bernstein

    You could at least as easily argue that the “black community” owes compensation for the Jewish businesses destroyed and institutions forced to move in 1964. In fact, “the Jewish community” of 2020 isn’t responsible for the plight of black people in Rochester, nor is the “black community” responsible for the actions of thugs in 1964.

    (Yes, “thugs.” The notion that a “rebellion against ghettoization” necessarily involved destroying hundreds of Jewish-owned businesses who had nothing to do with that is … creative.)

    Dmitrij Gold

    Bunkum and baloney, with a sprinkle of the unavoidable “tikkun olam”.

    Miryam Levine

    Share the wealth?? Sounds like revisionist socialism at the core. Give them hammers and nails and rebuild the abandoned stores and buildings. Learn a trade and do the work. Turn the rubble of Joseph St into a showcase of urban renewal to be proud of. Stop kvetching! Start taking responsibility for the place where you live.

    Alan Schleider

    This man has a PhD and he blames the Jews for having been targets. Another apologist for something which requires no apology. Stop playing Pin The Tail On The Donkey with yourself and your coreligionists.

    Peter Aiello

    All groups that arrived in the US from elsewhere ghettoized when they first arrived. I grew up in an Italian ghetto. I now live in a Chinese ghetto. Most of the Italians that I grew up with left the ghetto. Familiar language and culture within the group contribute to this at first. This is not a problem.
    The Jewish community merely left Joseph Avenue. Why is the community responsible for those who moved in after them? The community did not create the issues of the newer arrivals.
    Was there a transfer of wealth to the Jewish arrivals at the beginning? Who did the work required to make sure that the young Jewish kid growing up on Joseph Avenue has the same opportunities as the others. In what way do the walks make it painfully clear that Rochester’s Jewish community was part of the problem? Sounds like Jewish guilt.

    Ralph Avi Goldwasser

    So much well intentioned but misguided nonsense. Jews can not solve the Black family problems. Jews are not responsible for the situation. Self blame is too simple. There is no collective guilt which only leads to collective punishment. Shocking that educated Jews do not reconized this simple lesson of history.

  339. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Inquiring Mind
    @Anonymous

    So why doesn't Herzonner simply order the Chicago Police to go out and "bust some heads", Richard Dailey, style.

    I mean, what are people going to do to her? "I'm Bad, I'm Black, I lead the Gang with the Most Gats, so take that, suckas!"

    Replies: @Anonymous

    So why doesn’t Herzonner simply order the Chicago Police to go out and “bust some heads”, Richard Dailey, style.

    Force isn’t as useful as you might think. Consider the Vietnam War or the occupation of Iraq or the US and USSR attempts at preserving the rule of cities in Afghanistan. It is easy end up with a force that has no legitimacy, which means that it controls only the ground that it stands on, which ground may very well be mined. A heavily armed force may go in and simply destroy everything and kill everybody, but they typically can’t do it for an entire country (or city), and if they did then the entire sponsoring country might find itself without either legitimacy or anybody who cared to risk trading with it.

    With police, the problem is worse. Police are “men of the polis” or “men of the city”. They are supposed to arrest (stop) people who are violating social norms as codified by law. If the law doesn’t codify social norms, the police eventually find themselves controlling the ground they stand on, and (since the city government is elected) told by their superiors that they can’t even do that — they have to stand for abuse, various projectiles thrown at them, and in some cases organized assaults with intent to kill (Portland, OR) (*).

    So the Mayor can’t just say “OK, today you all wear pink undies on the outside” and have the police enforce it. The police aren’t supposed to enforce such violations of the social norms. For that matter, if the entire civil populace decides to defy all governmental authority, to “fight and win and loot and burn, but all in moderation” as the song goes, then the police aren’t called in. The National Guard is called in, with backup from the Army, as in the 1968 riots.

    What the mayors have been trying to do is keep a lid on things while their actual ability to govern diminishes with the city’s budget and infrastructure. Lid’s off, and the Chicago Mayor is finally speaking her (?? I’m not sure of the preferred pronoun in this case) mind, having nothing to lose (or gain, for that matter).

    *) or for the more sedate, the phrase “I want a lawyer immediately” is recommended as the only thing to say to police. Makes them just as ineffective as a missile throwing mob. I tell you, I miss effective peace officers.

  340. Blacks mobs are ransacking expensive stores in the Loop and on the Magnificent Mile.

    Magnificent Mile = Fleeting minicam; menace filming it. Inflaming emetic, I fling mincemeat.

  341. @Brutusale
    @John Johnson

    Boston's PD stays mostly white and Irish due to residency laws for city employment.

    https://www.boston.gov/departments/human-resources/residency-requirements-city-workers

    Funny that Boston, as blue a burg as exists in America, hasn't suffered the sane idiocies that have plagued its moonbat sister cities.

    Replies: @Aeronerauk

    Boston is a “racist town,” don’t you know? ESPN runs a story on it every other week.

    Please note that this is no longer the case, but in the past ethnic whites, specifically Irish, kept the blacks shall we say, properly fearful of white neighborhoods. Black Bostonians are also smaller demographically than their counterparts in other big cities.

    Lucky for them the white Irish Bostonians who assumed every black in their neighborhood was up to no good have left. Replaced by friendlier, college educated yuppies who vote Democrat not to support unions like their predecessors, but to oppose that great evil of our time, racism.

  342. @Muggles
    @Peterike

    >>Interesting that the worst mayor in America is either a ghastly black lesbian or a brain dead white guy married to a ghastly black lesbian.

    Who saw that coming?<<

    Hmmmm... Maybe Pat Buchanan circa 1992.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Interesting that the worst mayor in America is either a ghastly black lesbian or a brain dead white guy married to a ghastly black lesbian.

    Who saw that coming?

    Hmmmm… Maybe Pat Buchanan circa 1992.

    And Thomas Jefferson circa 1800:

    BTW, what are you implying about Ezola?

  343. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Anonymous


    They don’t have an industrial economy,
     
    If the Chinese don't have an industrial economy, then what do we have?

    https://www.worldsteel.org/en/dam/jcr:914bc3b7-7cf9-4465-b4e6-6d8805971537/pies.jpg

    It's not just steel - in product after product, the Chinese produce the majority (or in some cases virtually all) of the global output.

    Of course they are part of the system of world trade and depend (in part) on imports of certain raw materials and on exports of finished goods. However, their domestic market (over a billion people) gets bigger and bigger every year and they are working to shore up their supply lines so that they won't include the US. They have already effectively sealed off their internet.

    Sure right now they could not go it alone without taking a big hit but long term the trend is in the other direction. China goes thru periodic swings where it opens itself up to the rest of the world and then closes itself down and now it is swinging in the direction of closing.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Sure right now they could not go it alone without taking a big hit but long term the trend is in the other direction.

    And I hope china makes it into the long term, gets past the import/export business to some kind of autarky. Leaders have a bad habit of overestimating their capabilities and underestimating just how badly things can go. A salient example now is the US policy of supporting its urban areas after they’d lost their economic natural monopolies. After all, what could go wrong? Everybody knew that cities had dominated their societies (except in nomadic or tribal societies) since the early Bronze Age. What could possibly be wrong with helping US cities over a rough patch? Well, here in 2020, the answer is obvious.

    By the same token, China is only trying to restore its historic regional status, and perhaps extend it to the entire world. China has risen quickly, other societies are clearly in trouble, China’s historic status is obviously (to China and some neutrals) deserved. What could possibly go wrong?

    I hope China and the rest of us don’t find out. In the meantime, consider the risks of the current floods, or the land inadvertently poisoned under some of Mao’s agricultural projects. Industrial society is trickier than it looks.

    Seriously, China is one of civilization’s eyes, and it would be a disaster for humanity if that eye closed (however celebratory the short term reaction of China’s adjacent countries might be). I hope it wills say open.

  344. @Peterike
    Interesting that the worst mayor in America is either a ghastly black lesbian or a brain dead white guy married to a ghastly black lesbian.

    Who saw that coming?

    Replies: @Muggles, @Trinity

    I keep thinking that the current (((mayor of NYC))) is a crypto.

  345. @Anonymous
    T Crimmins notices:

    "It's depressing how ritualized it is now"

    I respond.

    I'm left behind in this beautiful University of Chicago SS neighborhood. The Obama's made it their political/cultural base of operation. Now they have dined and dashed and hang out in a DC Diplomat neighborhood and just closed on a $12 million estate on Martha's Vineyard MA where there are ~ 0 % poor Black AA. Their Hyde Park Kenwood mansion has sat vacant and they only come back to assist in the Obama Foundation stealing our Jackson Park (Andy Jackson not Jessie Jackson Park) for their Obama Presidential Center - some 23 story high rise Black Liberation Theology Temple/training center - not a Presidential Library in the historic tradition.

    Our neighborhood got hit semi hard in the first round of George Floyd BLM protests, riots, planned looting.

    But we were also hit for 3 consecutive Halloweens by mobs of other neighborhood mobs coming in to enact "The Purge" something to do with some violent Hollywood movie claiming White racists in the Government conspire to incite poor Blacks to riot, loot, kill people, mostly each other.

    Our community handles these annual Halloween Black flash mob "Purges" . I think we'll do the same with Black Lies Matter Antifa flash mobs, riots, looting.

    Yes, Mr. Crimmins It's depressing about how regular and how ritualized this is.

    We're all waiting for some Corsican Napoleon to shoot cannons in to rampaging urban mobs - in our Chicago case the mobs are all Black AA.

    In the meantime, we'll find ways to get by - I'm in Hyde Park Chicago, a place where Blacks and Whites (Jews and Gays) work together to keep out the poor :-)

    Here's a cartoon we made just noticing Chicago/Illinois Demorat pols and efforts to Defund/Refund the police:

    https://artoffarstar88.wordpress.com/2020/08/10/refund-the-police/

    Replies: @cityview

    I didn’t think the Jackson Park area or anywhere in Chicago was the right place for the Obama library/cultural center. I thought it should have gone to Manhattan. I thought the Obamas should have sold their Kenwood house years ago–they will never live here again.

  346. like most viruses there will now be a low level, endemic infection of civil disturbances in the US

  347. @Mr. Anon
    @Dave Pinsen


    If Trump wins, he will have the blue cities and states over a barrel, and be able to make demands about law enforcement (including immigration enforcement) in return for bailing them out.
     
    True. And yet he won't. He'll just tweet about what an awesome job he's doing and about how he should be added to Mount Rushmore.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8610013/White-House-reached-South-Dakota-governor-adding-Trump-Mount-Rushmore.html

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @HallParvey, @Brutusale, @Ron Mexico

    If I were Trump I would settle for having my face on Kristie Noem.

  348. @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad


    You, your children, your grandchildren, your posterity … are all going to pay and pay and pay.
     
    You really seem enthused about this. Actually, things aren't that bad.

    The Blacks and Latinx use more Federal "services" than they pay in taxes. The amount is suprising-- about 0.8 trillion dollars (8E11 USD). And that's just excess Federal "services". The word is in quotes because it inclufes courts an prisons.

    Note that this does not include the cost of patronage jobs in salary and in having incompetents in crucial positions, the value destruction of real estate, the opportunity costs from capital diversion, the cost of dumbing Whites down so that they can at least communicate Latinx and Blacks, the cost of shipping industry overseas to pay for current subsidies, and so on. All one can really say is that these costs are substantial.

    Actually, since the Federal Government has also had its legitimacy demolished, the Federal bureaucracy can be mostly sent home, and that money sink will also end.

    Now, the Chicago riots ended both the last high status economic activity in Chicago and the last little shred of legitimacy for subsidizing the cities (**), all that can be diverted to paying the national debt and industrial development. The amount owed should be paid off in a generation, with money left over to fund ample industrial recovery and expansion to a Kondratief Spring.

    Couldn't happen? Could happen in the USSR. Did happen in the USSR and the Warsaw Pact countries.

    (**) which is why the Chicago Mayor is so unhappy. She had a perfectly good con going on, and now it's spoiled. Al Capone couldn't have given a more impassioned speech. She means nothing of the rational content, but the flat rage over a spoiled racket comes right through, as does the "we're coming for you" part. The Chicago riots are an historic marker -- the end, or at least the beginning of he end, of massive subsidies to urban areas, and the Mayor knows it.
    https://youtu.be/79WTeoE8TJk?t=15




    Note the current negotiations between President Trump and the House leadership. Trump proposes a trillion dollars relief, the Democrats propose a trillion for relief and two trillion for their NGOs and other Party efforts - essentially, two trillion dollars subsidy to urban areas. Trump's response is genius -- he cuts payroll taxes, giving relief money to people who do not live in cities, and continues the unemployment bonus but at a rate that makes a job preferable to continuing on unemployment. This is the sort of thing I discuss above -- the end of subsidies to cities.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @Ben tillman, @Ben tillman

    I enjoyed reading something that was both optimistic and tethered to reality in some important ways.

    “Opportunity costs from capital diversion” — Hear! Hear!

    Only working people pay payroll taxes, so maybe Trump is starting to get a clue.

  349. @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad


    You, your children, your grandchildren, your posterity … are all going to pay and pay and pay.
     
    You really seem enthused about this. Actually, things aren't that bad.

    The Blacks and Latinx use more Federal "services" than they pay in taxes. The amount is suprising-- about 0.8 trillion dollars (8E11 USD). And that's just excess Federal "services". The word is in quotes because it inclufes courts an prisons.

    Note that this does not include the cost of patronage jobs in salary and in having incompetents in crucial positions, the value destruction of real estate, the opportunity costs from capital diversion, the cost of dumbing Whites down so that they can at least communicate Latinx and Blacks, the cost of shipping industry overseas to pay for current subsidies, and so on. All one can really say is that these costs are substantial.

    Actually, since the Federal Government has also had its legitimacy demolished, the Federal bureaucracy can be mostly sent home, and that money sink will also end.

    Now, the Chicago riots ended both the last high status economic activity in Chicago and the last little shred of legitimacy for subsidizing the cities (**), all that can be diverted to paying the national debt and industrial development. The amount owed should be paid off in a generation, with money left over to fund ample industrial recovery and expansion to a Kondratief Spring.

    Couldn't happen? Could happen in the USSR. Did happen in the USSR and the Warsaw Pact countries.

    (**) which is why the Chicago Mayor is so unhappy. She had a perfectly good con going on, and now it's spoiled. Al Capone couldn't have given a more impassioned speech. She means nothing of the rational content, but the flat rage over a spoiled racket comes right through, as does the "we're coming for you" part. The Chicago riots are an historic marker -- the end, or at least the beginning of he end, of massive subsidies to urban areas, and the Mayor knows it.
    https://youtu.be/79WTeoE8TJk?t=15




    Note the current negotiations between President Trump and the House leadership. Trump proposes a trillion dollars relief, the Democrats propose a trillion for relief and two trillion for their NGOs and other Party efforts - essentially, two trillion dollars subsidy to urban areas. Trump's response is genius -- he cuts payroll taxes, giving relief money to people who do not live in cities, and continues the unemployment bonus but at a rate that makes a job preferable to continuing on unemployment. This is the sort of thing I discuss above -- the end of subsidies to cities.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @Ben tillman, @Ben tillman

    The Blacks and Latinx use more Federal “services” than they pay in taxes. The amount is suprising– about 0.8 trillion dollars (8E11 USD).

    I recently did a bit of arithmetic. Every billion dollars in federal outlays costs my family of four $25 to $30.

    Eight hundred billion means $20,000+ from my family, which is more than enough to cover private school tuition for two children. Of course, that cost would not be necessary if not for an unfunded federal forced-immigration mandate, which is one thing you left out of your accounting.

  350. @Cloudswrest
    How the treated looters in the old days.

    https://64.media.tumblr.com/3eee9e38473bb4fb27081d970ba1a411/6ab821ccd0df25a9-e6/s500x750/9d18bfaa8975ae02ccd610c12911de4ad06acb4e.png

    "A Newark policeman stands over a dead body of 24-year-old William Furr, whom he just shotgunned for stealing a six-pack of beer from the looted Mack Liquors store during the 1967 Newark riots. Taken by photographer Bud Lee for LIFE magazine. (July 15, 1967) [486 x 780]"

    Replies: @lavoisier

    A bit extreme I would think.

    Using a shotgun is a sure way to kill someone.

    And just for stealing some beer?

    • Replies: @bruce county
    @lavoisier


    A bit extreme I would think.
     
    Whipping and chains were effective but we decided to be nice. And look what we got. 👌
    , @Known Fact
    @lavoisier

    And back then it was probably just some Piels or Schlitz -- they didn't have $15 microbrew six-packs

  351. @Craig Nelsen
    @Jesse

    The Bolsheviks used foreigners--primarily Chinese and (probably Jewish) Latvians--to do the heavy lifting as they genocided 66 million white Russian Christians in their own country. The foreigners served as personal security for the top Bolsheviks (overwhelmingly Jewish), were relied on for mass executions, were the support staff for the torture and execution chambers of the CheKa, and carried out intra-military punishments.

    Look for the Chinese Exclusion Act to take its place alongside the Tuskeegee syphyllis hoax as one of the most important events in American history.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Yes, the Russians dindu nuffin. It was them Chinese that dun it. They were so clever that not even a single photo exists as proof.

  352. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Anonymous


    They don’t have an industrial economy,
     
    If the Chinese don't have an industrial economy, then what do we have?

    https://www.worldsteel.org/en/dam/jcr:914bc3b7-7cf9-4465-b4e6-6d8805971537/pies.jpg

    It's not just steel - in product after product, the Chinese produce the majority (or in some cases virtually all) of the global output.

    Of course they are part of the system of world trade and depend (in part) on imports of certain raw materials and on exports of finished goods. However, their domestic market (over a billion people) gets bigger and bigger every year and they are working to shore up their supply lines so that they won't include the US. They have already effectively sealed off their internet.

    Sure right now they could not go it alone without taking a big hit but long term the trend is in the other direction. China goes thru periodic swings where it opens itself up to the rest of the world and then closes itself down and now it is swinging in the direction of closing.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    If the Chinese don’t have an industrial economy, then what do we have?

    A very good and pertinent question! The US is one of the few nations in the world that is effectively autarkic. It has enough remnants of its former complete industrial economy to survive (at a lower level to be sure) without imports. This may change — for example, fracking has proven uneconomic and could be entirely shut down. That would end autarky as energy independence is lost.
    Considering the national and international situation, in which a much worse version of 2008 is a possibility, autarky might actually be important in the real world.

    I seriously hope that nothing of the sort happens. However, if it did, the US would not have to turn predatory on an international scale simply to support its population in a basic, but livable, economy. That would be good for everybody.

  353. @lavoisier
    @Cloudswrest

    A bit extreme I would think.

    Using a shotgun is a sure way to kill someone.

    And just for stealing some beer?

    Replies: @bruce county, @Known Fact

    A bit extreme I would think.

    Whipping and chains were effective but we decided to be nice. And look what we got. 👌

  354. @lavoisier
    @Cloudswrest

    A bit extreme I would think.

    Using a shotgun is a sure way to kill someone.

    And just for stealing some beer?

    Replies: @bruce county, @Known Fact

    And back then it was probably just some Piels or Schlitz — they didn’t have $15 microbrew six-packs

  355. @Jack D
    @Negrolphin Pool


    A commenter on ZeroHedge made the point that determining the exact threshold at which a city becomes economically non-viable for private business is not some abstract thought experiment; it is the job of actuaries. Once insurance companies decide that they won’t write policies on homes or businesses, especially real estate- and transportation-related policies, it’s municipal check mate because there will be few banks willing to lend and few businesses willing to risk the unbearable liabilities of operating in and sending their people through a war zone.
     
    There is a name for this. It is called "red lining". Redlining is evil, it is illegal, it is immoral, we are told. Redlining is the cause of black poverty just as sure as wet streets cause rain. If any insurance company or lender tries this then the wrath of the State will be upon them. President Bass (or whoever it is) will kick yo' ass.

    Replies: @Alice in Wonderland

    So that is why we keep hearing about redlining

  356. Are the Democrats just counting on cold weather to make this stuff stop?

    Riots have been pathetically easy to stop since the invention of grapeshot. Just unleash the police with real bullets, armored personnel carriers, helicopters, snipers, etc., etc.

    80% of the rioters are soy-boys who are smart enough to see the writing on the wall and who have no taste for a real fight. They will disappear almost immediately.

    Some of the rioters have a little more substance to them, but once significant casualties are inflicted, they, too, will get the message.

    The only variable is how all of this is presented to the American public by the media, but the Oligarchy owns the media. They can present the crackdown however they like. They can even ignore the crackdown completely.

    The Oligarchy can dial the riots up or down at will.

  357. @R.G. Camara
    @TomSchmidt

    The problem is like Detroit, Newark, Camden, etc. :

    At certain point, unless stopped in time, Leftist insanity drives out so many non-black folks and then all the rational Talented Tenthers and middle-class acting blacks, that the only thing that remains are the 85% of blacks who believe everything is racist or are too afraid/race loyal to stamp out the bad blacks, or the pathetic hangers-on lefties in complete denial about everything.

    And then the far-left political leaders just lay back, promise the most pork, and blame the police and racism for all the problems, and get elected. And anyone who tries to move in gets hit with huge taxes and blamed for all problems. Hipsters trying to colonize Detroit all but give up after a bit and leave Detroit because the black pols don't cut them any slack and blame them for all the wrongs, even if they just moved in.

    Things have been moving at such a rapid rate, we might actually be reaching that point in many smaller cities. Thanks to the internet, people are seeing those riot videos despite the corporate media's best efforts to deny anything bad is going on. The stories on Twitter of a mass exodus from cities are coming as rapidly as the stories of riots.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

    I did see that blacks in Englewood in Chicago drove out a BLM protest. Interesting; the black working classes have caught on to the BLM scam.

    NYC has 2MM blacks; but despite being almost as large as Chicago by themselves, they’ve not killed at anywhere near the rate of the denizens of that city. It’s been tense but peaceful, until recently.

    I don’t know how NYC ever recovers from this, even without an overwhelming poor population as in Detroit.

    Keep safe. That shudder you felt as you walked through the ruined Forum in Rome? It was a premonition.

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