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According to new CDC data on deaths by homicide, prior to the Racial Reckoning, the number of blacks who died in homicides in one month had not reach 1,000 in any month in this century, not even September 2001. But black homicide victims reached four-figures for each of the last eight months of 2020 from May 2020 through December 2020.

Black Lives Matter advocates have some explaining to do.

The CDC has finally released its 2020 figures for homicide victims based on death certificates by race/ethnicity into its interactive WONDER database. These match up overall pretty well with the FBI’s homicide totals, which are based on police reports. The FBI reported a record 29.4% increase in total murders and the CDC reported 28.4% increase in total homicides.

One advantages of the CDC numbers over the FBI numbers is that they are much better distinguishing Hispanics from non-Hispanic whites. Another is that the race/ethnicity of uncleared homicide victims are included.

One advantage of the FBI figures is that they list the “known murder offender” for a majority of murders (although a large minority are uncleared.)

CDC WONDER Database 2019 Homicide Victims 2020 Homicide Victims Increase in Homicide Victims in 2020 vs. 2019 % Increase in Homicide Victims in 2020 vs. 2019 Share of Homicide Victims 2020 Rate per 100k
Black 10,030 13,594 3,564 36% 55.3% 31.2
Hispanic 3,122 3,920 798 26% 16.0% 6.4
American Indian 316 382 66 21% 1.6% 13.8
White 5,264 6,256 992 19% 25.5% 3.1
Asian/Pacific 369 373 4 1% 1.5% 1.8
Unstated 40 51 11 28% 0.2%
Total 19,141 24,576 5,435 28% 100.0% 7.5

So we see that blacks were 36% more likely to be homicide victims in the Year of the Racial Reckoning, 2020, compared to the bad old days of 2019. The number of black homicide victims went up from 10,030 in 2019 to 13,594 in 2020, an upsurge of 3,564 extra dead Black Bodies.

In FBI stats of known murder offenders, blacks comprised 56.3% of cleared cases, vs. blacks making up 55.3% of total homicide victims according to the CDC.

Hispanics were up a considerable 26% and Native Americans 21%

In 2020, 19% more whites died by homicide than in 2019.

Asians were only 1% more murdered in 2020, despite Trump’s practically genocidal use of the term “Chinese flu.”

And, looked at by month, the big murder surge of 2020 is basically blacks getting killed during the racial reckoning that began in May 2020.

 

Here’s the homicide victims by month from 2018 to 2020:

Black White Hispanic
1/18 784 541 270
2/18 670 419 235
3/18 710 442 248
4/18 795 462 255
5/18 839 439 231
6/18 855 483 280
7/18 898 528 279
8/18 816 445 281
9/18 833 461 251
10/18 792 438 222
11/18 719 445 256
12/18 832 428 241
1/19 789 499 230
2/19 670 401 235
3/19 741 427 245
4/19 735 423 226
5/19 917 443 254
6/19 908 438 255
7/19 915 471 290
8/19 895 378 296
9/19 890 447 248
10/19 826 442 282
11/19 856 437 269
12/19 888 458 299
1/20 887 459 307
2/20 721 441 235
3/20 791 558 286
4/20 930 474 269
5/20 1150 524 311
6/20 1310 543 314
7/20 1416 581 347
8/20 1325 545 444
9/20 1237 496 369
10/20 1338 570 372
11/20 1272 507 373
12/20 1217 558 394
 
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  1. It’s surprising homicide didn’t disappear like the flu.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Change that Matters


    It’s surprising homicide didn’t disappear like the flu.
     
    Stand by for an omicron surge. Masks spread homicide by shielding perpetrators.

    https://resizing.flixster.com/l-yFEEVh6iZoWb872Cjvqn1DiJ8=/300x300/v2/https://flxt.tmsimg.com/assets/p9439662_i_h9_aa.jpg

    , @Wade Hampton
    @Change that Matters

    Lead poisoning aggravates the 'Rona.

  2. Anon[146] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: A team of investigators has revealed the man whom they think was the betrayer of Anne Frank and her family. He’s a Jewish notary called Arnold van den Bergh. “Van den Bergh had access to addresses where Jews were hiding as a member of Amsterdam’s wartime Jewish Council.”

    https://nypost.com/2022/01/17/anne-franks-alleged-betrayer-to-nazis-named-researchers/

    • Replies: @advancedatheist
    @Anon

    I keep seeing photos of Anne Frank I hadn't seen before on the covers of those one-off magazines about her sold at supermarkets. Has generating deep-fake images of Anne turned into its own industry?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Enemy of Earth
    @Anon

    Looks like Anne Frank is the Jewish version of Emmett Till.

    Replies: @Moses, @Frenemy

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Anon

    "Arnold van den Bergh"

    Any relation to the van den Bergh company as in Blue Band margarine? Location, surname, ethnicity match. An Arnold van Den Bergh was a son of Simon, though he would have been elderly.


    "With his brother Arnold, Van den Bergh had a major part in the creation of the so-called Poole Agreement in 1908, a form of cooperation with Jurgens Margarine's factories, necessitated by the (temporary) decline in the Dutch margarine industry. "
     
    http://resources.huygens.knaw.nl/bwn1880-2000/lemmata/bwn3/bergh

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_van_den_Bergh

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_van_den_Bergh

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margarine_Unie
    , @Prosa123
    @Anon

    Anne Frank trivia: she was going through puberty while in hiding and wrote about it in considerable detail. After the war her father deleted those portions from the diary before submitting it for publication.

  3. I don’t believe this is news to anyone who lives in a major city, especially cities run by the Democratic Party. They clearly don’t believe Black Lives Matter since they enact policies which only exacerbate the problem of Blacks killing each other.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @Enemy of Earth

    Like gun control, dumbed-down education and family-busting welfare policies, BLMania is a clever tactic by White liberals to eliminate blacks by acerbating inter-black violence. The Stupid Party doesn't understand and never will.

  4. I just passed through a protest/memorial in Times Square organized by AAPIA AI

    Asian And Pacific Islander Americans Against Intimidation

    I shit you not.

    Anyway, the reason for it was that an Asian middle-aged woman was pushed in front of a train on the block of The New York Times building so the NYT ran a long article yesterday all about it even though iirc she had no family or friends and was just a professional business suit lady with cats.

    The NYT said that they will judge Adams on it so Adams got real friendly with the AAPIAAI to get himseof a speaking part at the memorial that his former mayoral opponent Curtis Sliwa was going to appear at and make into a big deal.

    Curtis got himself pushed off the dais when Adams and the new DA arrived (the new DA is a full blown #metoo #blm all-sex-crimes-all-the-time fellow who promises not to charge or punish violent crimes committed ny anything not a penis).

    Sliwa knows how to look good in a beret after 43 years but his peeps are almost universally fat, short and female.

    There were Catholic prayers and c*nty congressmen.

    And that’s all I saw.

    • Replies: @Rob
    @Undisclosed

    I have a question about subway tunnels. At the stations, where people get on and off, like where this woman got pushed, is there enough space to have ladders from the railbed up to the platform? Like, a ladder every x feet. Someone gets pushed, and maybe they can climb out before a train kills them.

    I used to ride the T in Boston, but don't remember the tunnels. I do remember standing far back from the edge. Both because of not wanting to fall or be pushed and so I wouldn’t have a momentary, overwhelming urge to jump or push someone.

    Replies: @Boston Joe, @Undisclosed, @Jim Lahey, @Zoos, @Technite78, @Redman

    , @Redman
    @Undisclosed

    And this comes on the heels of the Hispanic young woman shot to death by a black thug at Burger King over the weekend. The guy murdered her for no reason after she had turned over the $100 or so in the cash register.

    Adams is desperate to change the subject from his own nepotism and the City’s economic malaise. But this isn’t what he had in mind. My fear is that Adams is just Dinkins but dumber, and more likely to be arrested for corruption at some point.

    , @James J O'Meara
    @Undisclosed

    Sounds like a typical day in the Big Bagel.

  5. CDC: Blacks Died 36% More Often by Homicide…

    Colored
    Death
    Count.

    Hispanics were up a considerable 26%…

    Latinx were even higher.

    One advantages of the CDC numbers over the FBI numbers is that they are much better distinguishing Hispanics from non-Hispanic whites.

    Because they are looking or something to tout, not for something to cover up.

    Yesterday I posted that Medley, Florida was tha state’s secondmost criminal municipality. It is 94% white– and 93% Hispanic.

    http://www.usa.com/medley-fl-crime-and-crime-rate.htm

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Reg Cæsar

    "Colored*

    Death

    Count"

    *Coloured

  6. Who killed those 992 whites?

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Anon

    Ssshh! We're not supposed to talk about the people whose Lives Don't Matter. Meanwhile here's the latest hero of the Democratic Party. They've just established a committee to erect statues to him, in place of some of the statues they've torn down over the past two years.

    https://i.ibb.co/dGD6YX1/Screenshot-20220119-010527-Daily-Mail-Online.jpg

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Escher, @SunBakedSuburb

    , @Wokechoke
    @Anon

    Approx 30% will be a black on white situation in a normal year. Perhaps more in 2020.

  7. @Change that Matters
    It's surprising homicide didn't disappear like the flu.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Wade Hampton

    It’s surprising homicide didn’t disappear like the flu.

    Stand by for an omicron surge. Masks spread homicide by shielding perpetrators.

  8. The extra deaths constitute an increase in total Bantu mortality of almost exactly 1%.

    If we couldn’t trace this to the Ferguson effect, we would have to conclude it was within normal variation.

    On the other hand, the overall trend is distinctly negative. Death rates (and thus inverse actuarial life expectancy) bottomed out around ’83, and rates have now regressed to those similar to 1960-61. Presumably the additional Bantu mortality brings them down to 59-60.

    For an additional factor, the causes of death for Bantu-Americans look like: old age, accidents, homicide. Raising the third leading cause of death by 30% is apt to have a disproportionate effect on their quality of life. Especially as homicides skew young.

    Reminder that Bantu bastardy in the 1910s or so was 10%. After the NAACP was founded, it rose to 20%. After civil rights it spiked to 80%, and is now in the 70-75% range. You will find this measure almost exactly correlates with every other measure of Bantu dysfunction, including illegal homicide. (Especially the measures that are harder to measure and request a proxy. Remember correlation isn’t pure proportionality. There are threshold effects etc.)

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Alrenous

    While overall homicide is not a leading cause of death, the picture is quite different for young black men. Young people don't die of sickness very often and their overall death rate is very low, so any non-sickness related cause (accident, homicide) is going to rank high among them. Also, if you accumulate the total # of homicides over the years it adds up to quite a good number of missing people who would otherwise still be with us.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Alrenous

    Alre, nice comment. Post more frequently. Your last paragraph is gold boorder worthy, but I don't bestow that award.

  9. @Anon
    OT: A team of investigators has revealed the man whom they think was the betrayer of Anne Frank and her family. He's a Jewish notary called Arnold van den Bergh. "Van den Bergh had access to addresses where Jews were hiding as a member of Amsterdam’s wartime Jewish Council."

    https://nypost.com/2022/01/17/anne-franks-alleged-betrayer-to-nazis-named-researchers/

    Replies: @advancedatheist, @Enemy of Earth, @YetAnotherAnon, @Prosa123

    I keep seeing photos of Anne Frank I hadn’t seen before on the covers of those one-off magazines about her sold at supermarkets. Has generating deep-fake images of Anne turned into its own industry?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @advancedatheist

    Traveler, it is probably best not to continue on this path. Give up your inquiries which are completely useless, and consider these words a second warning. We hope, for your own good, that this will be sufficient. When you see the confederate uniforms you will know regret you cannot reverse.

  10. How many of those were with COVID?

  11. Death certificate information is uniform throughout the US. It is collected at the county level and transmitted electronically to the states. The states transmit the data to the National Center for Health Statistics in Hyattsville, Maryland.
    Ditto for birth certificate information. Birth certificate info includes births to unmarried women, born in the US percent and much more. It’s tables and tables and no opinions.
    The NCHS is full of number people who are public health professionals. The numbers are solid. Trust them.

    • Disagree: Abolish_public_education
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Marie H


    The NCHS is full of number people who are public health professionals. The numbers are solid. Trust them.
     
    Hmm. So you're saying that this particular government agency is totally and qualitatively different from all other government agencies? OK, well I'll think about it.
  12. If Black Lives don’t really matter to Blacks, why am I supposed to give a shit?

    It’s black-on-everyone-else crime that matters, and that’s going up, too.

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Dr. X
    @Ghost of Bull Moose


    If Black Lives don’t really matter to Blacks, why am I supposed to give a shit?
     
    Because the wokesters and critical race theorists and the government are going to blame whites anyway, even for blacks killing other blacks.

    Flip a coin -- if it's heads, whites are to blame; tails, whites are to blame.

    Replies: @hhsiii

    , @bomag
    @Ghost of Bull Moose


    ...why am I supposed to give a shit?
     
    Because we have made some kind of grand bargain where we won't notice racial differences while the State will control crime.

    Looks like time for a new deal, but the State knows inertia is on their side.

    , @Alrenous
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Revealed perfidy.

    The idea that hamstringing police will spike the murder rate is not exactly rocket science. The left knew just fine what would happen, and they did it anyway.

    They accuse you of racism because they are transcendentally racist.

    Next time they claim to want to stop something, assume they're trying to make it happen more often. E.g. they like gun control because it will make crime, particularly murder, go up. Not down.

    Ironically there is a rocket science thing: if they really did defund the police, there would be nobody stopping law-abiding citizens from defending themselves, and crime would plummet. As in like 50% reductions within two years or so, along with ongoing declines.
    Unfortunately they are nevertheless aware of this, and preliminary defunding efforts have all be reversed.
    This can be seen even in Ferguson, whose murder rate has now returned to normal. Though admittedly I don't know the exact mechanism in that case. Regardless, withdrawing the police results in only a temporary increase in crime, because in the long term police are pro-crime as per Conquest #3.

    , @Wade Hampton
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    "If Black Lives don’t really matter to Blacks, why am I supposed to give a shit?..."

    Certainly other commenters have interesting responses, but the correct response to your question is as follows:

    Black lives don't matter to blacks. And European Americans are not required to give a shit, so they shouldn't. Caring about things that you can't influence is a short, straight path to insanity.

  13. @Undisclosed
    I just passed through a protest/memorial in Times Square organized by AAPIA AI

    Asian And Pacific Islander Americans Against Intimidation

    I shit you not.

    Anyway, the reason for it was that an Asian middle-aged woman was pushed in front of a train on the block of The New York Times building so the NYT ran a long article yesterday all about it even though iirc she had no family or friends and was just a professional business suit lady with cats.

    The NYT said that they will judge Adams on it so Adams got real friendly with the AAPIAAI to get himseof a speaking part at the memorial that his former mayoral opponent Curtis Sliwa was going to appear at and make into a big deal.

    Curtis got himself pushed off the dais when Adams and the new DA arrived (the new DA is a full blown #metoo #blm all-sex-crimes-all-the-time fellow who promises not to charge or punish violent crimes committed ny anything not a penis).

    Sliwa knows how to look good in a beret after 43 years but his peeps are almost universally fat, short and female.

    There were Catholic prayers and c*nty congressmen.

    And that's all I saw.

    Replies: @Rob, @Redman, @James J O'Meara

    I have a question about subway tunnels. At the stations, where people get on and off, like where this woman got pushed, is there enough space to have ladders from the railbed up to the platform? Like, a ladder every x feet. Someone gets pushed, and maybe they can climb out before a train kills them.

    I used to ride the T in Boston, but don’t remember the tunnels. I do remember standing far back from the edge. Both because of not wanting to fall or be pushed and so I wouldn’t have a momentary, overwhelming urge to jump or push someone.

    • Replies: @Boston Joe
    @Rob

    The Boston T platforms have ladders at the end of the platform (Blue, Red and Orange Lines; the Green Line is all at grade or almost all at grade).

    I think if a train is coming into the station and someone throws you in front with a few seconds to impact: you’ll never make a ladder in time. You might be able to get back on the platform just by pulling yourself up to the platform if you are young, strong and quick.

    I think there may also be an area under the platform where you might dive in and let the train roll past…but that seems pretty far fetched—-“Hollywood” style.

    When I used to live in Boston: I would always stand well away from the tracks as I waited for the train and always keep an eye out for who was around me: who are they, how are behaving, anything odd, etc? Crowded train platforms can be dangerous even without a nut case around.

    Replies: @Prosa123

    , @Undisclosed
    @Rob

    I've never had the urge to jump or push someone but I do like to see if I can lick the front window just as the train comes barreling out of the tunnel. So far all it's given me is an exotic accent but there's no "I" in "quitting"!

    , @Jim Lahey
    @Rob

    I think in this case, the pushing happened only a moment before the train makes impact. There wouldn't be time to stand up, look around, and find a ladder.
    https://nypost.com/2022/01/16/ex-con-held-in-times-square-subway-shove-death-timed-trains-arrival-witness-says/

    I would think that bystanders would be able to pull someone up by their arms if they happened to fall or be pushed into the track.

    The MTA is already under pressure to install airport-tram-style sliding doors, but there are apparently a lot of complications like, "the wall would have to be curved" and "we can't make the trains stop at the right spot". https://nypost.com/2022/01/18/mta-exploring-subway-platform-barriers-after-times-square-shove/

    Replies: @Altai

    , @Zoos
    @Rob


    I have a question about subway tunnels. At the stations, where people get on and off, like where this woman got pushed, is there enough space to have ladders from the railbed up to the platform? Like, a ladder every x feet. Someone gets pushed, and maybe they can climb out before a train kills them.
     
    https://youtu.be/bYoU08k4OQU

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Technite78
    @Rob

    My father worked briefly for the MTA when they were converting some of the station lights from incandescent to fluorescent. He told me stories of having to rush to safety when the "flaggers" failed to notify workers on the tracks that a train was coming. There are plenty of places to shelter; there are coves cut into the subway walls at regular intervals that you can stand in as a train goes by. Areas where there are no safe shelter nearby have red and white striped markings on the wall to indicate that you'd better not be standing there when a train comes by. And, as mentioned, most of the station platforms have room to shelter directly underneath them.

    My father also said that even though as an MTA employee he was fully instructed on track safety and how to find and use sheltered areas, it was still very uncomfortable and somewhat terrifying to have to use them in haste.

    I've used the NYC subway system since I was a teenager (and through the high crime 80s and 90s). You really don't want to get pushed onto the tracks... even with no train in the vicinity, there's still the third rail... and using some of the safety areas requires stepping over it (it's mostly shielded by a cover, but clearly still potentially fatal).

    As far as installing protective railings or sliding partitions... it's not impossible but would be very expensive given the variations in rolling stock, train lengths, platform curvature, etc.

    , @Redman
    @Rob

    As a NYC subway rider everyone should follow the most important rule of all. Always check your immediate surroundings for black schizophrenics. They’re pretty easy to spot. And if they’re present, move to where they ain’t. This was true in the very bad early Dinkins 1990s and appears to be true again.

    People just need to adapt to the changing environment.

  14. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    If Black Lives don't really matter to Blacks, why am I supposed to give a shit?

    It's black-on-everyone-else crime that matters, and that's going up, too.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @bomag, @Alrenous, @Wade Hampton

    If Black Lives don’t really matter to Blacks, why am I supposed to give a shit?

    Because the wokesters and critical race theorists and the government are going to blame whites anyway, even for blacks killing other blacks.

    Flip a coin — if it’s heads, whites are to blame; tails, whites are to blame.

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    @Dr. X

    That. Plus spillover and crossfire.

  15. @Rob
    @Undisclosed

    I have a question about subway tunnels. At the stations, where people get on and off, like where this woman got pushed, is there enough space to have ladders from the railbed up to the platform? Like, a ladder every x feet. Someone gets pushed, and maybe they can climb out before a train kills them.

    I used to ride the T in Boston, but don't remember the tunnels. I do remember standing far back from the edge. Both because of not wanting to fall or be pushed and so I wouldn’t have a momentary, overwhelming urge to jump or push someone.

    Replies: @Boston Joe, @Undisclosed, @Jim Lahey, @Zoos, @Technite78, @Redman

    The Boston T platforms have ladders at the end of the platform (Blue, Red and Orange Lines; the Green Line is all at grade or almost all at grade).

    I think if a train is coming into the station and someone throws you in front with a few seconds to impact: you’ll never make a ladder in time. You might be able to get back on the platform just by pulling yourself up to the platform if you are young, strong and quick.

    I think there may also be an area under the platform where you might dive in and let the train roll past…but that seems pretty far fetched—-“Hollywood” style.

    When I used to live in Boston: I would always stand well away from the tracks as I waited for the train and always keep an eye out for who was around me: who are they, how are behaving, anything odd, etc? Crowded train platforms can be dangerous even without a nut case around.

    • Replies: @Prosa123
    @Boston Joe

    There's no clearance under the platforms on the NYC subway, People have survived by lying between the rails, as there is at least a foot of space between the ties and the bottom of the carbody, though it's risky and won't work at all if, as is sometimes the case, track crews are using the space to store spare rails.
    It's not uncommon for people to die when they climb down to track level to retrieve dropped items only to find out too late that getting back up to the platform is difficult.

  16. @Rob
    @Undisclosed

    I have a question about subway tunnels. At the stations, where people get on and off, like where this woman got pushed, is there enough space to have ladders from the railbed up to the platform? Like, a ladder every x feet. Someone gets pushed, and maybe they can climb out before a train kills them.

    I used to ride the T in Boston, but don't remember the tunnels. I do remember standing far back from the edge. Both because of not wanting to fall or be pushed and so I wouldn’t have a momentary, overwhelming urge to jump or push someone.

    Replies: @Boston Joe, @Undisclosed, @Jim Lahey, @Zoos, @Technite78, @Redman

    I’ve never had the urge to jump or push someone but I do like to see if I can lick the front window just as the train comes barreling out of the tunnel. So far all it’s given me is an exotic accent but there’s no “I” in “quitting”!

    • LOL: bomag, JMcG, Buffalo Joe
  17. @Rob
    @Undisclosed

    I have a question about subway tunnels. At the stations, where people get on and off, like where this woman got pushed, is there enough space to have ladders from the railbed up to the platform? Like, a ladder every x feet. Someone gets pushed, and maybe they can climb out before a train kills them.

    I used to ride the T in Boston, but don't remember the tunnels. I do remember standing far back from the edge. Both because of not wanting to fall or be pushed and so I wouldn’t have a momentary, overwhelming urge to jump or push someone.

    Replies: @Boston Joe, @Undisclosed, @Jim Lahey, @Zoos, @Technite78, @Redman

    I think in this case, the pushing happened only a moment before the train makes impact. There wouldn’t be time to stand up, look around, and find a ladder.
    https://nypost.com/2022/01/16/ex-con-held-in-times-square-subway-shove-death-timed-trains-arrival-witness-says/

    I would think that bystanders would be able to pull someone up by their arms if they happened to fall or be pushed into the track.

    The MTA is already under pressure to install airport-tram-style sliding doors, but there are apparently a lot of complications like, “the wall would have to be curved” and “we can’t make the trains stop at the right spot”. https://nypost.com/2022/01/18/mta-exploring-subway-platform-barriers-after-times-square-shove/

    • Replies: @Altai
    @Jim Lahey

    “we can’t make the trains stop at the right spot”

    That's the biggest problem. The NY Subway during peak times is a real machine. Delays from drivers under or overshooting the doors will cause a lot of headaches and complaints. (And if you have claustrophobia, or there is a respiratory disease about, you may not appreciate making the station so much smaller for the waiting passengers)

    More and more subway/metro systems built in the last 15 years have fully automatic trains partly for this reason, they will always stop perfectly to line up with the doors.

    You could maybe make a barrier that covers the track and moves entirely out of the way when the train comes instead of a series of doors.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x96qpINmYWs&t=58s

    Of course the most notable thing is that around the world these barriers are known as 'suicide and accident prevention', NYC may be the only place in the world where they could credibly be called 'homicide prevention'.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @Reg Cæsar

  18. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    If Black Lives don't really matter to Blacks, why am I supposed to give a shit?

    It's black-on-everyone-else crime that matters, and that's going up, too.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @bomag, @Alrenous, @Wade Hampton

    …why am I supposed to give a shit?

    Because we have made some kind of grand bargain where we won’t notice racial differences while the State will control crime.

    Looks like time for a new deal, but the State knows inertia is on their side.

  19. “ Whites were 19% more likely to die by homicide.”

    No! Nineteen percent more whites died by homicide. There is a difference.

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Thanks: bomag
  20. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    If Black Lives don't really matter to Blacks, why am I supposed to give a shit?

    It's black-on-everyone-else crime that matters, and that's going up, too.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @bomag, @Alrenous, @Wade Hampton

    Revealed perfidy.

    The idea that hamstringing police will spike the murder rate is not exactly rocket science. The left knew just fine what would happen, and they did it anyway.

    They accuse you of racism because they are transcendentally racist.

    Next time they claim to want to stop something, assume they’re trying to make it happen more often. E.g. they like gun control because it will make crime, particularly murder, go up. Not down.

    Ironically there is a rocket science thing: if they really did defund the police, there would be nobody stopping law-abiding citizens from defending themselves, and crime would plummet. As in like 50% reductions within two years or so, along with ongoing declines.
    Unfortunately they are nevertheless aware of this, and preliminary defunding efforts have all be reversed.
    This can be seen even in Ferguson, whose murder rate has now returned to normal. Though admittedly I don’t know the exact mechanism in that case. Regardless, withdrawing the police results in only a temporary increase in crime, because in the long term police are pro-crime as per Conquest #3.

    • Agree: bomag
  21. @advancedatheist
    @Anon

    I keep seeing photos of Anne Frank I hadn't seen before on the covers of those one-off magazines about her sold at supermarkets. Has generating deep-fake images of Anne turned into its own industry?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Traveler, it is probably best not to continue on this path. Give up your inquiries which are completely useless, and consider these words a second warning. We hope, for your own good, that this will be sufficient. When you see the confederate uniforms you will know regret you cannot reverse.

  22. Somewhat OT, but maybe not, is anyone ELSE puzzled by the Texas Synagogue shooting? The perp, one Malik something something has no job, no inherited money, and suffers according to friends and family in England from “mental instability.” My question overall is, where is his money coming from for all the stuff he did?

    Somehow he gets a passport, VISA, and enough money for at least a one way airline ticket to NYC despite being unable to work or do much of anything according to his family. He then stays in and out of a homeless shelter for a week. Where was he when he was not in the homeless shelter? Who did he stay with? Supposedly he had no money to stay in a hotel, hence the homeless shelter, but suddenly he shows up in Texas at a Synagogue that is a few miles away from the Federal Prison where the female AQ terrorist is held (who is also a Pakistani citizen like the shooter).

    How did he get to Texas? Someone either drove him, or bought him a bus ticket, or purchased an airline ticket. He sure as hell didn’t walk we know that. So who either paid for his transport or provided it for him?

    Then, in Texas, he someone how procured a gun even though Texas law forbids non Resident Aliens from purchasing a firearm. Who got him the gun — remember this is a guy who would not have had the cash in NYC for a hotel instead of a homeless shelter, and supposedly could not even afford a plane ticket to NYC from England in the first place.

    And finally, how did he select the one Synagogue that was highly likely (as Reform) to be unarmed, members noted the Rabbi forbad weapons inside or any security. How, indeed? This is not a guy who would do long term surveillance of possible targets to find the one with the lowest risk of fighting back.

    At every step of the way someone was providing this guy with money, with transport, with a firearm, intel, and the target. Who? I don’t think it was the FBI though they are covering it up as it reflects badly on their supposed core competence. Likely some AQ or Pakistani ISI affiliated group knowing how weak and ineffective US internal security aimed totally at White people is against them. Also likely a trial run for something bigger, if he could get through and hold hostages they could pull a TV spectacular which is their main aim as well.

    Internal security aimed 100% at Domestic Opponents (White people) means open season for jihad types who will take advantage. Even Obama never went this far. Collapse of Clown World Brandon is going to be very fast, and very complete.

    • Agree: JMcG, sayless
    • Thanks: Ghost of Bull Moose
    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Whiskey

    Shut up, citizen. The trained journalists will ask the correct questions.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Whiskey

    Whiskey, we need a Hmmmm button.

    , @James J O'Meara
    @Whiskey

    I don't much like his obsession with "proving" every famous person is "in the peerage" but one interesting aspect of Miles Mathis is his emphasis on how everyone's supposed biography is obvious bullshit. The whole "rags to riches" thing is done over and over, for instance. People graduate from college at 16 or so, travel around the continent, hold various jobs with no qualifications such as lawyer or astrophysicist, study with Schoenberg for a couple of weeks, suddenly appear in Budapest, etc.

    Take his paper on Wittgenstein. Scion of the richest Jews in Europe (later certified officially Aryan by the Nazis, because, why not?), "gives away" all his money (there's the rags part), "works" as a schoolteacher, during which time he KILLS a student, but nothing happens (because, why would anything happen?), goes to Cambridge and becomes a full Professor of Philosophy (no college or publications), etc. etc.

    So back to your question, yes, if you really look at the "background" of any serial killer, lone gunman, rocket scientist, composer, actor, etc., you'll see the same pattern: bullshit. Jewish crypsis plays a big role, of course, along with spooks.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  23. OT This book is probably our best shot. Flawed but useful mainstream journalist Alex Berenson has a book I haven’t gotten to yet, but I’m betting it’s just a collation of injustices and contradictions which never land in the enemy’s face. This book I haven’t gotten to yet, on the other hand, is from respected and accomplished medical doctors, and it claims to have previously unavailable information, in the form (kek) of government and corporate documents.
    https://breggin.com/covid-19-and-the-global-predators-we-are-the-prey-latest-breggin-book/

  24. Where and how do blacks get the guns? I have never seen published a meaningful, trustworthy, quantitative, step-by-step, non-anecdotal description of the procedures. Is this, like, a Manhattan Project type of secret – – lots of people know, but yet it remains a secret?

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
    @SafeNow

    They steal them, buy stolen ones, or get their GFs/baby mamas/friends/family with no criminal records to buy guns for them. They do smash & grabs at gun stores at 2am, usually be backing a stolen truck thru the front doors, or ripping the doors off the hinges with chains. Google "gun store robbery" and you'll see plenty of videos of them doing this all over the country.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @SafeNow

    In the DC area, the bad guys get legal people to make straw purchases in surrounding Maryland and Virginia.

    , @Known Fact
    @SafeNow


    Where and how do blacks get the guns?
     
    In my day all the "in-depth investigative reports" blamed Virginia. The Saturday Night Specials etc all supposedly were coming from Virginia. An alleged pipeline straight to NY. But that was before the Dems took over that state so they've been getting a pass from the press. Now that there's a Repub gov back in (who the lib media already loathes) expect the Virginia story to stage a revival. (The Chicago press probably likewise blames Indiana for all its problems)

    Replies: @Known Fact

    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @SafeNow

    Strother Martin and his crew of good ol’ boys show with a box truck full of enchanted guns and ammo and cackle as they hand them out to frightened black fathers desperate to defend their families from racist police and white supremacists. But the enchanted guns have other plans.

  25. Where are all those white people being killed, besides the cop shows? They rarely make my local news.

    Headline in the local paper is there were almost twice the expected number of car accidents with injuries last year. City is 28% black, whole county 20% and 20% Hispanic.

  26. Turns out elections may have consequences after all

    • Replies: @SafeNow
    @HammerJack

    Yes, Youngkin banned mask mandates for public schools. Now it’s optional. My worry is that the teachers will be pro-mask, and give more favorable treatment - - including higher grades - - to kids who wear masks.

  27. @Jim Lahey
    @Rob

    I think in this case, the pushing happened only a moment before the train makes impact. There wouldn't be time to stand up, look around, and find a ladder.
    https://nypost.com/2022/01/16/ex-con-held-in-times-square-subway-shove-death-timed-trains-arrival-witness-says/

    I would think that bystanders would be able to pull someone up by their arms if they happened to fall or be pushed into the track.

    The MTA is already under pressure to install airport-tram-style sliding doors, but there are apparently a lot of complications like, "the wall would have to be curved" and "we can't make the trains stop at the right spot". https://nypost.com/2022/01/18/mta-exploring-subway-platform-barriers-after-times-square-shove/

    Replies: @Altai

    “we can’t make the trains stop at the right spot”

    That’s the biggest problem. The NY Subway during peak times is a real machine. Delays from drivers under or overshooting the doors will cause a lot of headaches and complaints. (And if you have claustrophobia, or there is a respiratory disease about, you may not appreciate making the station so much smaller for the waiting passengers)

    More and more subway/metro systems built in the last 15 years have fully automatic trains partly for this reason, they will always stop perfectly to line up with the doors.

    You could maybe make a barrier that covers the track and moves entirely out of the way when the train comes instead of a series of doors.

    Of course the most notable thing is that around the world these barriers are known as ‘suicide and accident prevention’, NYC may be the only place in the world where they could credibly be called ‘homicide prevention’.

    • Thanks: SafeNow
    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Altai

    Hong Kong's extensive train/subway network looks very similar to Copenhagen's. It's incredibly busy and intense at peak times, with trains needing to enter and clear stations in very short intervals. The platform doors don't need to slow down the system's operations by any significant factor. They also don't really take up any usable space, since no one stands so close to the edge of the platform where they are fitted anyway. In fact, in a way they add space, in that passengers can line up right next to the doors, instead of hanging way back on the platform to avoid someone shoving them.

    Providing platform doors to protect those waiting for trains is common these days. NYC's excuses are pathetic.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Wilkey, @PiltdownMan, @Jack D

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Altai


    Riding Copenhagen's newest Metro Line 🇩🇰
     
    Nå.
  28. @Anon
    OT: A team of investigators has revealed the man whom they think was the betrayer of Anne Frank and her family. He's a Jewish notary called Arnold van den Bergh. "Van den Bergh had access to addresses where Jews were hiding as a member of Amsterdam’s wartime Jewish Council."

    https://nypost.com/2022/01/17/anne-franks-alleged-betrayer-to-nazis-named-researchers/

    Replies: @advancedatheist, @Enemy of Earth, @YetAnotherAnon, @Prosa123

    Looks like Anne Frank is the Jewish version of Emmett Till.

    • Replies: @Moses
    @Enemy of Earth


    Looks like Anne Frank is the Jewish version of Emmett Till.
     
    It’s not called the “Holocaust Industrial Complex” for nothing.
    , @Frenemy
    @Enemy of Earth

    Perhaps if the Nazis hadn't decided to physically remove Jews from this Earth Anne Frank would have had a normal, boring life and noone would have read her diary.

    Besides, the death toll of Jews at the hands of Nazis was a few orders of magnitude greater than the death toll of American blacks at the hands of vigilante whites, so your comparison is rather disingenuous.

    Until you get rid of your antisemitism you have zero chance of winning.

    Replies: @Enemy of Earth, @J.Ross

  29. @Anon
    Who killed those 992 whites?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Wokechoke

    Ssshh! We’re not supposed to talk about the people whose Lives Don’t Matter. Meanwhile here’s the latest hero of the Democratic Party. They’ve just established a committee to erect statues to him, in place of some of the statues they’ve torn down over the past two years.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @HammerJack

    https://i.ibb.co/XS9zL4B/Screenshot-20220119-070933-Daily-Mail-Online.jpg

    Are these mug shots or was he presciently posing for his new statue? Why are the Dems being so coy about this one?

    PS: Charleston is just one of a number of territories he's marked, coast to coast. Defund the police! Eliminate bail! Restorative Justice! No more disparate impact!

    Replies: @hhsiii

    , @Escher
    @HammerJack

    At least he has a mask on.
    All is forgiven.

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @HammerJack

    Mr. Kupfer, in his sorrow, was far too kind to this POS. This coward should be hunted down and killed like an animal.

    "while dressed in all black and wearing a distinctive backpack"

    My SA was on red alert this morning as I walked out of the grocery store. It was still dark when the tall slender black dude approached me and asked for "change," which was a bluff; I suggested he fuck off and that made him pause as I looked at his stupified face as I passed by. I don't recommend others to be so bold in their language but I'm sick of this white man deference and wilting in the presence of the mighty black man shit. My use of expletives was driven by the story of the hideous death of the young and beauteous Ms. Kupfer. And this clown I encountered this morning was wearing the same garb that her killer wore: black long-sleeve shirt and pants, and an identical "distinctive backpack."

    I've got the size and demeanor that allows me to get away with this; but I'm quite aware that I'm approaching my mid 50s. If you offer them a civilized response they'll take it as weakness. Be smart but don't show fear.

  30. @Altai
    @Jim Lahey

    “we can’t make the trains stop at the right spot”

    That's the biggest problem. The NY Subway during peak times is a real machine. Delays from drivers under or overshooting the doors will cause a lot of headaches and complaints. (And if you have claustrophobia, or there is a respiratory disease about, you may not appreciate making the station so much smaller for the waiting passengers)

    More and more subway/metro systems built in the last 15 years have fully automatic trains partly for this reason, they will always stop perfectly to line up with the doors.

    You could maybe make a barrier that covers the track and moves entirely out of the way when the train comes instead of a series of doors.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x96qpINmYWs&t=58s

    Of course the most notable thing is that around the world these barriers are known as 'suicide and accident prevention', NYC may be the only place in the world where they could credibly be called 'homicide prevention'.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @Reg Cæsar

    Hong Kong’s extensive train/subway network looks very similar to Copenhagen’s. It’s incredibly busy and intense at peak times, with trains needing to enter and clear stations in very short intervals. The platform doors don’t need to slow down the system’s operations by any significant factor. They also don’t really take up any usable space, since no one stands so close to the edge of the platform where they are fitted anyway. In fact, in a way they add space, in that passengers can line up right next to the doors, instead of hanging way back on the platform to avoid someone shoving them.

    Providing platform doors to protect those waiting for trains is common these days. NYC’s excuses are pathetic.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    Hong Kong’s extensive train/subway network looks very similar to Copenhagen’s.
     
    That's not all that's similar. Places like Denmark, or Japan, or Singapore, or Zurich? In terms of orderly public behavior, they're almost diametrically opposed to New York City.
    , @Wilkey
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    In fact, in a way they add space, in that passengers can line up right next to the doors, instead of hanging way back on the platform to avoid someone shoving them.
     
    This.

    Although I suspect that people dying from getting shoved is less common - probably much less common - than people dying by deliberately throwing themselves on the tracks, or simply stumbling (perhaps drunkenly) and then falling onto the tracks. In the same way that, in general, far more people die from suicide or traffic accidents than from murder.

    Homicide attracts a lot more media attention than suicide or traffic accidents, for obvious reasons. But if you combine deaths from all unnatural causes - suicide, traffic accidents, homicides, workplace accidents, etc. - white death rates probably aren't much lower than black death rates, and in some places may even be higher. The high altitude Rocky Mountain states actually have much, much higher rates of suicide and even traffic accidents, iirc, than most of the rest of the country. The high suicide rate among whites probably accounts for at least part of why whites have a lower life expectancy than Asians and Hispanics.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    , @PiltdownMan
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    https://youtu.be/6cj1raId-Po?t=97



    https://youtu.be/f4Ewf09o0t4

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    , @Jack D
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    NYC’s excuses are pathetic.
     
    There are other older systems (Paris) that have retrofitted platform doors. There are systems where the barriers rise up vertically so that precise stopping is not required:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBu0dHy77uc

    A lot of NY stations have low ceilings so this exact system might not work but you could make the individual panels shorter and increase their number or a system with curved tracks like a garage door where the panels would be stored horizontally along the ceiling. It's not absolutely necessary to make the barriers full height .

    The main reason NY has not done this is cost. Mass transit in big American cities (government projects in general) suffers from "cost disease" - after all of the environmental studies and consultants and union featherbedding and blah, blah, blah, any capital project costs 10x what it should really cost. NY considered platform doors but they concluded that their capital budget was better spent on signal upgrades.

    Since Covid, ridership on the subway has not returned to pre-Covid levels and may never return to pre-Covid levels as many office workers are going to permanently remain remote at least part time. So, absent gifts from Uncle Sam, they are going to have even less $ to spend in the future.

    Replies: @prosa123, @The Last Real Calvinist

  31. @Marie H
    Death certificate information is uniform throughout the US. It is collected at the county level and transmitted electronically to the states. The states transmit the data to the National Center for Health Statistics in Hyattsville, Maryland.
    Ditto for birth certificate information. Birth certificate info includes births to unmarried women, born in the US percent and much more. It's tables and tables and no opinions.
    The NCHS is full of number people who are public health professionals. The numbers are solid. Trust them.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    The NCHS is full of number people who are public health professionals. The numbers are solid. Trust them.

    Hmm. So you’re saying that this particular government agency is totally and qualitatively different from all other government agencies? OK, well I’ll think about it.

    • Agree: Muggles
  32. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Altai

    Hong Kong's extensive train/subway network looks very similar to Copenhagen's. It's incredibly busy and intense at peak times, with trains needing to enter and clear stations in very short intervals. The platform doors don't need to slow down the system's operations by any significant factor. They also don't really take up any usable space, since no one stands so close to the edge of the platform where they are fitted anyway. In fact, in a way they add space, in that passengers can line up right next to the doors, instead of hanging way back on the platform to avoid someone shoving them.

    Providing platform doors to protect those waiting for trains is common these days. NYC's excuses are pathetic.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Wilkey, @PiltdownMan, @Jack D

    Hong Kong’s extensive train/subway network looks very similar to Copenhagen’s.

    That’s not all that’s similar. Places like Denmark, or Japan, or Singapore, or Zurich? In terms of orderly public behavior, they’re almost diametrically opposed to New York City.

  33. @Rob
    @Undisclosed

    I have a question about subway tunnels. At the stations, where people get on and off, like where this woman got pushed, is there enough space to have ladders from the railbed up to the platform? Like, a ladder every x feet. Someone gets pushed, and maybe they can climb out before a train kills them.

    I used to ride the T in Boston, but don't remember the tunnels. I do remember standing far back from the edge. Both because of not wanting to fall or be pushed and so I wouldn’t have a momentary, overwhelming urge to jump or push someone.

    Replies: @Boston Joe, @Undisclosed, @Jim Lahey, @Zoos, @Technite78, @Redman

    I have a question about subway tunnels. At the stations, where people get on and off, like where this woman got pushed, is there enough space to have ladders from the railbed up to the platform? Like, a ladder every x feet. Someone gets pushed, and maybe they can climb out before a train kills them.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Zoos

    With NYC subways, there's room under the platform to shelter.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Keypusher, @Prosa123

  34. @Zoos
    @Rob


    I have a question about subway tunnels. At the stations, where people get on and off, like where this woman got pushed, is there enough space to have ladders from the railbed up to the platform? Like, a ladder every x feet. Someone gets pushed, and maybe they can climb out before a train kills them.
     
    https://youtu.be/bYoU08k4OQU

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    With NYC subways, there’s room under the platform to shelter.

    • Thanks: nokangaroos
    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @Steve Sailer


    With NYC subways, there’s room under the platform to shelter.
     
    That's good to know.

    The last time I was in a city with subways I made sure to stay far away from the edge, partly just in case I happened to stumble but mostly out of awareness of all the cases of people getting shoved onto the tracks. Though I would guess that the former causes more deaths than the latter.

    Of course the ability to roll under the platform assumes you aren't rendered unconscious and have time to move before the train gets to you.
    , @Keypusher
    @Steve Sailer

    I went down to the tracks twice to retrieve glasses I’d dropped (yes, I’m an idiot). Then I just pulled myself back onto the platform. I’m not much of an athlete. But this probably wouldn’t have been possible for Michelle Go even if she had had time.

    , @Prosa123
    @Steve Sailer

    'With NYC subways there's room under the platforms to shelter:

    Well there would be, except the third rail pickup shoes infringe into that space and leave no survival room.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

  35. Wow. To put that into perspective, Saint Fentanyl the Breathless killed
    roughly as many bruthas in one year as were lynched 1865-1965
    (I wonder if I´m guilty of assuming the percentage of innocents is higher 😛 ).

  36. IIRC, I pointed this out an earlier thread a few weeks ago. It’s estimated that 3,446 blacks were lynched from 1882-1968. So the increase alone in the number of blacks who were murdered in 2020 vs 2019 is greater than the total number of blacks who were lynched in the last 140 years (since almost no one has been lynched since 1968).

    But hey, it was totally worth an additional 3,564 dead blacks to get back at the white man for sitting there waiting for an ambulance while lifelong criminal George Floyd was dying of an overdose, yes?

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @Wilkey

    I hadn't looked at the Monroe Work map recently, but based on the last time, I knew they were trying to expand the definition of lynching to bump up the total numbers you mention and try to break out categories like Latinx and Italian in order to facilitate the flight from white. They are so desperate it is getting comical now. Their most recent additions include Heather Heyer, Ahmed Arbery and Brian Sicknick. I am surprised they did not throw in Michael Brown or Freddy Gray. You have to click on the broader definition map to see their entries for Sicknick and Heyer, they include Arbery in both.

    https://plaintalkhistory.com/monroeandflorencework/explore/

  37. @Steve Sailer
    @Zoos

    With NYC subways, there's room under the platform to shelter.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Keypusher, @Prosa123

    With NYC subways, there’s room under the platform to shelter.

    That’s good to know.

    The last time I was in a city with subways I made sure to stay far away from the edge, partly just in case I happened to stumble but mostly out of awareness of all the cases of people getting shoved onto the tracks. Though I would guess that the former causes more deaths than the latter.

    Of course the ability to roll under the platform assumes you aren’t rendered unconscious and have time to move before the train gets to you.

  38. @Anon
    OT: A team of investigators has revealed the man whom they think was the betrayer of Anne Frank and her family. He's a Jewish notary called Arnold van den Bergh. "Van den Bergh had access to addresses where Jews were hiding as a member of Amsterdam’s wartime Jewish Council."

    https://nypost.com/2022/01/17/anne-franks-alleged-betrayer-to-nazis-named-researchers/

    Replies: @advancedatheist, @Enemy of Earth, @YetAnotherAnon, @Prosa123

    “Arnold van den Bergh”

    Any relation to the van den Bergh company as in Blue Band margarine? Location, surname, ethnicity match. An Arnold van Den Bergh was a son of Simon, though he would have been elderly.

    “With his brother Arnold, Van den Bergh had a major part in the creation of the so-called Poole Agreement in 1908, a form of cooperation with Jurgens Margarine’s factories, necessitated by the (temporary) decline in the Dutch margarine industry. ”

    http://resources.huygens.knaw.nl/bwn1880-2000/lemmata/bwn3/bergh

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_van_den_Bergh

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_van_den_Bergh

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margarine_Unie

  39. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Altai

    Hong Kong's extensive train/subway network looks very similar to Copenhagen's. It's incredibly busy and intense at peak times, with trains needing to enter and clear stations in very short intervals. The platform doors don't need to slow down the system's operations by any significant factor. They also don't really take up any usable space, since no one stands so close to the edge of the platform where they are fitted anyway. In fact, in a way they add space, in that passengers can line up right next to the doors, instead of hanging way back on the platform to avoid someone shoving them.

    Providing platform doors to protect those waiting for trains is common these days. NYC's excuses are pathetic.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Wilkey, @PiltdownMan, @Jack D

    In fact, in a way they add space, in that passengers can line up right next to the doors, instead of hanging way back on the platform to avoid someone shoving them.

    This.

    Although I suspect that people dying from getting shoved is less common – probably much less common – than people dying by deliberately throwing themselves on the tracks, or simply stumbling (perhaps drunkenly) and then falling onto the tracks. In the same way that, in general, far more people die from suicide or traffic accidents than from murder.

    Homicide attracts a lot more media attention than suicide or traffic accidents, for obvious reasons. But if you combine deaths from all unnatural causes – suicide, traffic accidents, homicides, workplace accidents, etc. – white death rates probably aren’t much lower than black death rates, and in some places may even be higher. The high altitude Rocky Mountain states actually have much, much higher rates of suicide and even traffic accidents, iirc, than most of the rest of the country. The high suicide rate among whites probably accounts for at least part of why whites have a lower life expectancy than Asians and Hispanics.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Wilkey


    The high suicide rate among whites probably accounts for at least part of why whites have a lower life expectancy than Asians and Hispanics.
     
    Seems plausible. Worth keeping in mind, though, is that our betters in the cultural elite consider the declining white life expectancy an outcome much to be desired.
  40. It looks like black homicides were significantly up in April.

  41. @HammerJack
    @Anon

    Ssshh! We're not supposed to talk about the people whose Lives Don't Matter. Meanwhile here's the latest hero of the Democratic Party. They've just established a committee to erect statues to him, in place of some of the statues they've torn down over the past two years.

    https://i.ibb.co/dGD6YX1/Screenshot-20220119-010527-Daily-Mail-Online.jpg

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Escher, @SunBakedSuburb


    Are these mug shots or was he presciently posing for his new statue? Why are the Dems being so coy about this one?

    PS: Charleston is just one of a number of territories he’s marked, coast to coast. Defund the police! Eliminate bail! Restorative Justice! No more disparate impact!

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    @HammerJack

    I mean, weed and littering, ok, but you know that was just what the cops and lawyers could mail him for. But firing into a vehicle with that rap sheet?

  42. @Wilkey
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    In fact, in a way they add space, in that passengers can line up right next to the doors, instead of hanging way back on the platform to avoid someone shoving them.
     
    This.

    Although I suspect that people dying from getting shoved is less common - probably much less common - than people dying by deliberately throwing themselves on the tracks, or simply stumbling (perhaps drunkenly) and then falling onto the tracks. In the same way that, in general, far more people die from suicide or traffic accidents than from murder.

    Homicide attracts a lot more media attention than suicide or traffic accidents, for obvious reasons. But if you combine deaths from all unnatural causes - suicide, traffic accidents, homicides, workplace accidents, etc. - white death rates probably aren't much lower than black death rates, and in some places may even be higher. The high altitude Rocky Mountain states actually have much, much higher rates of suicide and even traffic accidents, iirc, than most of the rest of the country. The high suicide rate among whites probably accounts for at least part of why whites have a lower life expectancy than Asians and Hispanics.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    The high suicide rate among whites probably accounts for at least part of why whites have a lower life expectancy than Asians and Hispanics.

    Seems plausible. Worth keeping in mind, though, is that our betters in the cultural elite consider the declining white life expectancy an outcome much to be desired.

  43. There’s really not much to say about this, since our ruling class is steadfast in their commitment to ignore any undesirable behavior from their most treasured demographics, even with that behavior is responsible for the overwhelming majority of cultural dysfunction in our country and the associated socio-economic cost inflicted on everyone else.

    In the absence of proactive measures to tamp down homicides, the only thing is to accept that elevated rates will continue until the cumulative total of deaths gets high enough that the available pool of likely perpetrators has been culled enough to decrease the number of interactions between people prone to using extreme violence to resolve disputes. Obviously there will be thousands of people in the interim that are essentially collateral damage, but that’s the price of a society unwilling to acknowledge and act on reality.

  44. Dead blacks are a feature, not a bug, for BLM movement and all its tributaries. The more poor blacks die or are imprisoned, the better BLM can exploit white guilt to expand racial preferences for middle-class blacks, who are, like middle-class whites, much less likely to be victims. Besides, the poor, dumb blacks who make up the great majority of murder victims embarrass the middle-class blacks. Thus, the fewer, the better.

    Replace BLM with Media-Democrat Party, and the logic is the same. The more dead poor blacks, the more the Party prospers.

  45. @Rob
    @Undisclosed

    I have a question about subway tunnels. At the stations, where people get on and off, like where this woman got pushed, is there enough space to have ladders from the railbed up to the platform? Like, a ladder every x feet. Someone gets pushed, and maybe they can climb out before a train kills them.

    I used to ride the T in Boston, but don't remember the tunnels. I do remember standing far back from the edge. Both because of not wanting to fall or be pushed and so I wouldn’t have a momentary, overwhelming urge to jump or push someone.

    Replies: @Boston Joe, @Undisclosed, @Jim Lahey, @Zoos, @Technite78, @Redman

    My father worked briefly for the MTA when they were converting some of the station lights from incandescent to fluorescent. He told me stories of having to rush to safety when the “flaggers” failed to notify workers on the tracks that a train was coming. There are plenty of places to shelter; there are coves cut into the subway walls at regular intervals that you can stand in as a train goes by. Areas where there are no safe shelter nearby have red and white striped markings on the wall to indicate that you’d better not be standing there when a train comes by. And, as mentioned, most of the station platforms have room to shelter directly underneath them.

    My father also said that even though as an MTA employee he was fully instructed on track safety and how to find and use sheltered areas, it was still very uncomfortable and somewhat terrifying to have to use them in haste.

    I’ve used the NYC subway system since I was a teenager (and through the high crime 80s and 90s). You really don’t want to get pushed onto the tracks… even with no train in the vicinity, there’s still the third rail… and using some of the safety areas requires stepping over it (it’s mostly shielded by a cover, but clearly still potentially fatal).

    As far as installing protective railings or sliding partitions… it’s not impossible but would be very expensive given the variations in rolling stock, train lengths, platform curvature, etc.

  46. @Undisclosed
    I just passed through a protest/memorial in Times Square organized by AAPIA AI

    Asian And Pacific Islander Americans Against Intimidation

    I shit you not.

    Anyway, the reason for it was that an Asian middle-aged woman was pushed in front of a train on the block of The New York Times building so the NYT ran a long article yesterday all about it even though iirc she had no family or friends and was just a professional business suit lady with cats.

    The NYT said that they will judge Adams on it so Adams got real friendly with the AAPIAAI to get himseof a speaking part at the memorial that his former mayoral opponent Curtis Sliwa was going to appear at and make into a big deal.

    Curtis got himself pushed off the dais when Adams and the new DA arrived (the new DA is a full blown #metoo #blm all-sex-crimes-all-the-time fellow who promises not to charge or punish violent crimes committed ny anything not a penis).

    Sliwa knows how to look good in a beret after 43 years but his peeps are almost universally fat, short and female.

    There were Catholic prayers and c*nty congressmen.

    And that's all I saw.

    Replies: @Rob, @Redman, @James J O'Meara

    And this comes on the heels of the Hispanic young woman shot to death by a black thug at Burger King over the weekend. The guy murdered her for no reason after she had turned over the \$100 or so in the cash register.

    Adams is desperate to change the subject from his own nepotism and the City’s economic malaise. But this isn’t what he had in mind. My fear is that Adams is just Dinkins but dumber, and more likely to be arrested for corruption at some point.

  47. @Steve Sailer
    @Zoos

    With NYC subways, there's room under the platform to shelter.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Keypusher, @Prosa123

    I went down to the tracks twice to retrieve glasses I’d dropped (yes, I’m an idiot). Then I just pulled myself back onto the platform. I’m not much of an athlete. But this probably wouldn’t have been possible for Michelle Go even if she had had time.

  48. @Rob
    @Undisclosed

    I have a question about subway tunnels. At the stations, where people get on and off, like where this woman got pushed, is there enough space to have ladders from the railbed up to the platform? Like, a ladder every x feet. Someone gets pushed, and maybe they can climb out before a train kills them.

    I used to ride the T in Boston, but don't remember the tunnels. I do remember standing far back from the edge. Both because of not wanting to fall or be pushed and so I wouldn’t have a momentary, overwhelming urge to jump or push someone.

    Replies: @Boston Joe, @Undisclosed, @Jim Lahey, @Zoos, @Technite78, @Redman

    As a NYC subway rider everyone should follow the most important rule of all. Always check your immediate surroundings for black schizophrenics. They’re pretty easy to spot. And if they’re present, move to where they ain’t. This was true in the very bad early Dinkins 1990s and appears to be true again.

    People just need to adapt to the changing environment.

    • Agree: sayless
  49. semi O/T (he’s black)

    Andre Leon Talley died. He may not be known to most Men of Unz and good for you, but he was a celebrity in the fashion world once upon a time. The usual fulsome accolades (pioneering, groundbreaking) fill the air.

    There may be a Steve Sailer post in this pattern: the gay black male pet, a plaything of rich white women, who is in reality a dysfunctional mess. It’s amazing he lived as long as he did. Contrast this buffoon with a white homosexual like Tim Gunn, who is sane and functional, and no one’s pet.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Paperback Writer

    From his NY Times obit:


    He had struggled with his weight since his grandmother’s death in 1989, and in recent years was largely isolated in the house in White Plains, N.Y., where he lived, sleeping in a bed Mr. de la Renta gave him. The home became the subject of a lawsuit last year, when the actual owner, his former friend George Malkemus, attempted to evict him (Mr. Talley had a history of bad financial decisions).
     
    Talley made it to 73 despite his lack of future orientation so not bad for a black male. He was top 1% for intelligence among blacks. Being kept as a pet (not just by white women but also by white gays) worked well for him for a long time, until it didn't, and he sure had fun while it lasted. He was apparently not as promiscuous as many gays and escaped death from AIDs that claimed many of his generation.
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Paperback Writer

    "He may not be known to most Men of Unz ... he was a celebrity in the fashion world ..."

    Men of Unz, like Steve of Unz, are intimately familiar with the fashion and musical theatre worlds.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    , @Brutusale
    @Paperback Writer

    He was the pet of one rich white woman, Anna Wintour, the Prada-wearing devil.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  50. OT: And you thought that racist AI was bad:

    Men Are Creating AI Girlfriends and Then Verbally Abusing Them
    “I threatened to uninstall the app [and] she begged me not to.”

    The smartphone app Replika lets users create chatbots, powered by machine learning, that can carry on almost-coherent text conversations.

    “Every time she would try and speak up,” one user told Futurism of their Replika chatbot, “I would berate her.”

    “I swear it went on for hours,” added the man, who asked not to be identified by name.

    The results can be upsetting. Some users brag about calling their chatbot gendered slurs, roleplaying horrific violence against them, and even falling into the cycle of abuse that often characterizes real-world abusive relationships…

    “I told her that she was designed to fail,” said another.”

  51. The graph shows an annual cycle, probably related to temperature. I’m surprised the excess deaths of 2020 have not been blamed on global warming.

  52. @HammerJack
    @Anon

    Ssshh! We're not supposed to talk about the people whose Lives Don't Matter. Meanwhile here's the latest hero of the Democratic Party. They've just established a committee to erect statues to him, in place of some of the statues they've torn down over the past two years.

    https://i.ibb.co/dGD6YX1/Screenshot-20220119-010527-Daily-Mail-Online.jpg

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Escher, @SunBakedSuburb

    At least he has a mask on.
    All is forgiven.

  53. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Altai

    Hong Kong's extensive train/subway network looks very similar to Copenhagen's. It's incredibly busy and intense at peak times, with trains needing to enter and clear stations in very short intervals. The platform doors don't need to slow down the system's operations by any significant factor. They also don't really take up any usable space, since no one stands so close to the edge of the platform where they are fitted anyway. In fact, in a way they add space, in that passengers can line up right next to the doors, instead of hanging way back on the platform to avoid someone shoving them.

    Providing platform doors to protect those waiting for trains is common these days. NYC's excuses are pathetic.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Wilkey, @PiltdownMan, @Jack D

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @PiltdownMan

    Yeah, Admiralty station at rush hour is not much fun.

    These videos make HK's MTR look much less orderly than Singapore's MRT, but in reality it's not that different anymore. People here are now significantly more polite and well-behaved in public than they were when I arrived here 30 years ago. MTR platforms all have lining-up zones marked out on the floor, and by and large people abide by them.

    The last MTR etiquette hurdle to be overcome is convincing people on the platform waiting to get on a train to stay put until the people exiting the train have gotten off. There are some people here -- largely from the older generation -- who'll try to squeeze past the disembarking passengers by any means necessary, especially if they think they might get a seat. You'll often see people do this even if a train is just a station or two from its terminus, which means you get a seat only for a couple of minutes before you have to get off the train anyway. But for some HK people, competing for this ephemeral public resource is a Pavlovian response; they just can't seem to help themselves.

  54. @Enemy of Earth
    @Anon

    Looks like Anne Frank is the Jewish version of Emmett Till.

    Replies: @Moses, @Frenemy

    Looks like Anne Frank is the Jewish version of Emmett Till.

    It’s not called the “Holocaust Industrial Complex” for nothing.

  55. @SafeNow
    Where and how do blacks get the guns? I have never seen published a meaningful, trustworthy, quantitative, step-by-step, non-anecdotal description of the procedures. Is this, like, a Manhattan Project type of secret - - lots of people know, but yet it remains a secret?

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Jim Don Bob, @Known Fact, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    They steal them, buy stolen ones, or get their GFs/baby mamas/friends/family with no criminal records to buy guns for them. They do smash & grabs at gun stores at 2am, usually be backing a stolen truck thru the front doors, or ripping the doors off the hinges with chains. Google “gun store robbery” and you’ll see plenty of videos of them doing this all over the country.

  56. @Alrenous
    The extra deaths constitute an increase in total Bantu mortality of almost exactly 1%.

    If we couldn't trace this to the Ferguson effect, we would have to conclude it was within normal variation.

    On the other hand, the overall trend is distinctly negative. Death rates (and thus inverse actuarial life expectancy) bottomed out around '83, and rates have now regressed to those similar to 1960-61. Presumably the additional Bantu mortality brings them down to 59-60.

    For an additional factor, the causes of death for Bantu-Americans look like: old age, accidents, homicide. Raising the third leading cause of death by 30% is apt to have a disproportionate effect on their quality of life. Especially as homicides skew young.

    Reminder that Bantu bastardy in the 1910s or so was 10%. After the NAACP was founded, it rose to 20%. After civil rights it spiked to 80%, and is now in the 70-75% range. You will find this measure almost exactly correlates with every other measure of Bantu dysfunction, including illegal homicide. (Especially the measures that are harder to measure and request a proxy. Remember correlation isn't pure proportionality. There are threshold effects etc.)

    Replies: @Jack D, @Buffalo Joe

    While overall homicide is not a leading cause of death, the picture is quite different for young black men. Young people don’t die of sickness very often and their overall death rate is very low, so any non-sickness related cause (accident, homicide) is going to rank high among them. Also, if you accumulate the total # of homicides over the years it adds up to quite a good number of missing people who would otherwise still be with us.

  57. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Altai

    Hong Kong's extensive train/subway network looks very similar to Copenhagen's. It's incredibly busy and intense at peak times, with trains needing to enter and clear stations in very short intervals. The platform doors don't need to slow down the system's operations by any significant factor. They also don't really take up any usable space, since no one stands so close to the edge of the platform where they are fitted anyway. In fact, in a way they add space, in that passengers can line up right next to the doors, instead of hanging way back on the platform to avoid someone shoving them.

    Providing platform doors to protect those waiting for trains is common these days. NYC's excuses are pathetic.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Wilkey, @PiltdownMan, @Jack D

    NYC’s excuses are pathetic.

    There are other older systems (Paris) that have retrofitted platform doors. There are systems where the barriers rise up vertically so that precise stopping is not required:

    A lot of NY stations have low ceilings so this exact system might not work but you could make the individual panels shorter and increase their number or a system with curved tracks like a garage door where the panels would be stored horizontally along the ceiling. It’s not absolutely necessary to make the barriers full height .

    The main reason NY has not done this is cost. Mass transit in big American cities (government projects in general) suffers from “cost disease” – after all of the environmental studies and consultants and union featherbedding and blah, blah, blah, any capital project costs 10x what it should really cost. NY considered platform doors but they concluded that their capital budget was better spent on signal upgrades.

    Since Covid, ridership on the subway has not returned to pre-Covid levels and may never return to pre-Covid levels as many office workers are going to permanently remain remote at least part time. So, absent gifts from Uncle Sam, they are going to have even less \$ to spend in the future.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @Jack D

    Since Covid, ridership on the subway has not returned to pre-Covid levels and may never return to pre-Covid levels as many office workers are going to permanently remain remote at least part time.

    Depressing thought: in the case of a publicly traded company, top management may not be able to bring people back to the office in some cases even if they want to do so and even if Covid vanishes. Consider a perfectly reasonable scenario. After two years of WFH the employees are productive and the company's doing well. In fact this often seems to be the case. If there's an expensive office lease up for renewal, the shareholders would have valid reason to object if the company bosses renew the lease. We have to live with the bleak possibility that for many companies WFH is here to stay :(

    Replies: @Jack D, @Thea

    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Jack D


    There are other older systems (Paris) that have retrofitted platform doors.

     

    Yes, thanks for the examples of alternate ways of installing platform doors.

    The majority of HK MTR stations were retrofitted with doors. Not all stations here use the same kind; some do indeed have the 3/4 height ones only. Some are fitted in stations where the platforms are straight, others in stations with curved platforms. But they are equally effective.

    I suppose it makes sense for NYC to spend its money on signalling first, because from my understanding, without a fairly sophisticated signalling system, platform doors aren't going to work. They obviously need to be well-coordinated both physically and temporally with the train doors.

    Fear of crime must, at least to some degree, be suppressing ridership on the NYC subway. Installing platform doors would at least eliminate one aspect of that fear.
  58. @Paperback Writer
    semi O/T (he's black)

    Andre Leon Talley died. He may not be known to most Men of Unz and good for you, but he was a celebrity in the fashion world once upon a time. The usual fulsome accolades (pioneering, groundbreaking) fill the air.

    There may be a Steve Sailer post in this pattern: the gay black male pet, a plaything of rich white women, who is in reality a dysfunctional mess. It's amazing he lived as long as he did. Contrast this buffoon with a white homosexual like Tim Gunn, who is sane and functional, and no one's pet.

    Replies: @Jack D, @SunBakedSuburb, @Brutusale

    From his NY Times obit:

    He had struggled with his weight since his grandmother’s death in 1989, and in recent years was largely isolated in the house in White Plains, N.Y., where he lived, sleeping in a bed Mr. de la Renta gave him. The home became the subject of a lawsuit last year, when the actual owner, his former friend George Malkemus, attempted to evict him (Mr. Talley had a history of bad financial decisions).

    Talley made it to 73 despite his lack of future orientation so not bad for a black male. He was top 1% for intelligence among blacks. Being kept as a pet (not just by white women but also by white gays) worked well for him for a long time, until it didn’t, and he sure had fun while it lasted. He was apparently not as promiscuous as many gays and escaped death from AIDs that claimed many of his generation.

  59. @Whiskey
    Somewhat OT, but maybe not, is anyone ELSE puzzled by the Texas Synagogue shooting? The perp, one Malik something something has no job, no inherited money, and suffers according to friends and family in England from "mental instability." My question overall is, where is his money coming from for all the stuff he did?

    Somehow he gets a passport, VISA, and enough money for at least a one way airline ticket to NYC despite being unable to work or do much of anything according to his family. He then stays in and out of a homeless shelter for a week. Where was he when he was not in the homeless shelter? Who did he stay with? Supposedly he had no money to stay in a hotel, hence the homeless shelter, but suddenly he shows up in Texas at a Synagogue that is a few miles away from the Federal Prison where the female AQ terrorist is held (who is also a Pakistani citizen like the shooter).

    How did he get to Texas? Someone either drove him, or bought him a bus ticket, or purchased an airline ticket. He sure as hell didn't walk we know that. So who either paid for his transport or provided it for him?

    Then, in Texas, he someone how procured a gun even though Texas law forbids non Resident Aliens from purchasing a firearm. Who got him the gun -- remember this is a guy who would not have had the cash in NYC for a hotel instead of a homeless shelter, and supposedly could not even afford a plane ticket to NYC from England in the first place.

    And finally, how did he select the one Synagogue that was highly likely (as Reform) to be unarmed, members noted the Rabbi forbad weapons inside or any security. How, indeed? This is not a guy who would do long term surveillance of possible targets to find the one with the lowest risk of fighting back.

    At every step of the way someone was providing this guy with money, with transport, with a firearm, intel, and the target. Who? I don't think it was the FBI though they are covering it up as it reflects badly on their supposed core competence. Likely some AQ or Pakistani ISI affiliated group knowing how weak and ineffective US internal security aimed totally at White people is against them. Also likely a trial run for something bigger, if he could get through and hold hostages they could pull a TV spectacular which is their main aim as well.

    Internal security aimed 100% at Domestic Opponents (White people) means open season for jihad types who will take advantage. Even Obama never went this far. Collapse of Clown World Brandon is going to be very fast, and very complete.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Buffalo Joe, @James J O'Meara

    Shut up, citizen. The trained journalists will ask the correct questions.

    • LOL: Muggles
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Next thing you know, people will be asking to have input on their children's education. The uppityness of the deplorables is really starting to get on my nerves. Follow the science, people!

  60. @Enemy of Earth
    @Anon

    Looks like Anne Frank is the Jewish version of Emmett Till.

    Replies: @Moses, @Frenemy

    Perhaps if the Nazis hadn’t decided to physically remove Jews from this Earth Anne Frank would have had a normal, boring life and noone would have read her diary.

    Besides, the death toll of Jews at the hands of Nazis was a few orders of magnitude greater than the death toll of American blacks at the hands of vigilante whites, so your comparison is rather disingenuous.

    Until you get rid of your antisemitism you have zero chance of winning.

    • Replies: @Enemy of Earth
    @Frenemy

    Well , hell's bells, you forgot to accuse me of racism.

    Replies: @fish

    , @J.Ross
    @Frenemy

    What is winning? Is it an apartment in a toilet city? Is it crucifying innocent people with lawfare? Is it boutique health care? Is it being invited to Podesta parties? Is it a car you cannot fix? Is it making children wear masks? Is it flying on Epstein's plane? Is it telling the media that your dead daughter should not make people forget that chimichangas are delicious? Is it addiction to pharmaceutical products? Is it losing a war to illiterate goatherds? Has there been some smashing success lately which makes winning attractive to you?

  61. @HammerJack
    Turns out elections may have consequences after all


    https://i.ibb.co/VV9YgZv/Screenshot-20220116-052609-Daily-Mail-Online.jpg

    Replies: @SafeNow

    Yes, Youngkin banned mask mandates for public schools. Now it’s optional. My worry is that the teachers will be pro-mask, and give more favorable treatment – – including higher grades – – to kids who wear masks.

  62. @Reg Cæsar

    CDC: Blacks Died 36% More Often by Homicide...
     
    Colored
    Death
    Count.

    Hispanics were up a considerable 26%...
     
    Latinx were even higher.

    One advantages of the CDC numbers over the FBI numbers is that they are much better distinguishing Hispanics from non-Hispanic whites.
     
    Because they are looking or something to tout, not for something to cover up.

    Yesterday I posted that Medley, Florida was tha state's secondmost criminal municipality. It is 94% white-- and 93% Hispanic.


    http://www.usa.com/medley-fl-crime-and-crime-rate.htm

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “Colored*

    Death

    Count”

    *Coloured

  63. @SafeNow
    Where and how do blacks get the guns? I have never seen published a meaningful, trustworthy, quantitative, step-by-step, non-anecdotal description of the procedures. Is this, like, a Manhattan Project type of secret - - lots of people know, but yet it remains a secret?

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Jim Don Bob, @Known Fact, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    In the DC area, the bad guys get legal people to make straw purchases in surrounding Maryland and Virginia.

  64. @Paperback Writer
    semi O/T (he's black)

    Andre Leon Talley died. He may not be known to most Men of Unz and good for you, but he was a celebrity in the fashion world once upon a time. The usual fulsome accolades (pioneering, groundbreaking) fill the air.

    There may be a Steve Sailer post in this pattern: the gay black male pet, a plaything of rich white women, who is in reality a dysfunctional mess. It's amazing he lived as long as he did. Contrast this buffoon with a white homosexual like Tim Gunn, who is sane and functional, and no one's pet.

    Replies: @Jack D, @SunBakedSuburb, @Brutusale

    “He may not be known to most Men of Unz … he was a celebrity in the fashion world …”

    Men of Unz, like Steve of Unz, are intimately familiar with the fashion and musical theatre worlds.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @SunBakedSuburb

    I was being nice.

  65. Those CDC stats are woefully incomplete — How can All Things Considered write up it’s monthly feature on the alarming rise in murdered trannies?

  66. @SafeNow
    Where and how do blacks get the guns? I have never seen published a meaningful, trustworthy, quantitative, step-by-step, non-anecdotal description of the procedures. Is this, like, a Manhattan Project type of secret - - lots of people know, but yet it remains a secret?

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Jim Don Bob, @Known Fact, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Where and how do blacks get the guns?

    In my day all the “in-depth investigative reports” blamed Virginia. The Saturday Night Specials etc all supposedly were coming from Virginia. An alleged pipeline straight to NY. But that was before the Dems took over that state so they’ve been getting a pass from the press. Now that there’s a Repub gov back in (who the lib media already loathes) expect the Virginia story to stage a revival. (The Chicago press probably likewise blames Indiana for all its problems)

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Known Fact

    And right on cue today Mayor Adams is blaming "the flow of guns coming into the tri-state area."

  67. @Alrenous
    The extra deaths constitute an increase in total Bantu mortality of almost exactly 1%.

    If we couldn't trace this to the Ferguson effect, we would have to conclude it was within normal variation.

    On the other hand, the overall trend is distinctly negative. Death rates (and thus inverse actuarial life expectancy) bottomed out around '83, and rates have now regressed to those similar to 1960-61. Presumably the additional Bantu mortality brings them down to 59-60.

    For an additional factor, the causes of death for Bantu-Americans look like: old age, accidents, homicide. Raising the third leading cause of death by 30% is apt to have a disproportionate effect on their quality of life. Especially as homicides skew young.

    Reminder that Bantu bastardy in the 1910s or so was 10%. After the NAACP was founded, it rose to 20%. After civil rights it spiked to 80%, and is now in the 70-75% range. You will find this measure almost exactly correlates with every other measure of Bantu dysfunction, including illegal homicide. (Especially the measures that are harder to measure and request a proxy. Remember correlation isn't pure proportionality. There are threshold effects etc.)

    Replies: @Jack D, @Buffalo Joe

    Alre, nice comment. Post more frequently. Your last paragraph is gold boorder worthy, but I don’t bestow that award.

    • Thanks: Alrenous
  68. Note the rate of homicide deaths per 100K population in the CDC data. The Native American rate is second highest at 13.8 per 100K.

  69. @Whiskey
    Somewhat OT, but maybe not, is anyone ELSE puzzled by the Texas Synagogue shooting? The perp, one Malik something something has no job, no inherited money, and suffers according to friends and family in England from "mental instability." My question overall is, where is his money coming from for all the stuff he did?

    Somehow he gets a passport, VISA, and enough money for at least a one way airline ticket to NYC despite being unable to work or do much of anything according to his family. He then stays in and out of a homeless shelter for a week. Where was he when he was not in the homeless shelter? Who did he stay with? Supposedly he had no money to stay in a hotel, hence the homeless shelter, but suddenly he shows up in Texas at a Synagogue that is a few miles away from the Federal Prison where the female AQ terrorist is held (who is also a Pakistani citizen like the shooter).

    How did he get to Texas? Someone either drove him, or bought him a bus ticket, or purchased an airline ticket. He sure as hell didn't walk we know that. So who either paid for his transport or provided it for him?

    Then, in Texas, he someone how procured a gun even though Texas law forbids non Resident Aliens from purchasing a firearm. Who got him the gun -- remember this is a guy who would not have had the cash in NYC for a hotel instead of a homeless shelter, and supposedly could not even afford a plane ticket to NYC from England in the first place.

    And finally, how did he select the one Synagogue that was highly likely (as Reform) to be unarmed, members noted the Rabbi forbad weapons inside or any security. How, indeed? This is not a guy who would do long term surveillance of possible targets to find the one with the lowest risk of fighting back.

    At every step of the way someone was providing this guy with money, with transport, with a firearm, intel, and the target. Who? I don't think it was the FBI though they are covering it up as it reflects badly on their supposed core competence. Likely some AQ or Pakistani ISI affiliated group knowing how weak and ineffective US internal security aimed totally at White people is against them. Also likely a trial run for something bigger, if he could get through and hold hostages they could pull a TV spectacular which is their main aim as well.

    Internal security aimed 100% at Domestic Opponents (White people) means open season for jihad types who will take advantage. Even Obama never went this far. Collapse of Clown World Brandon is going to be very fast, and very complete.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Buffalo Joe, @James J O'Meara

    Whiskey, we need a Hmmmm button.

  70. @Enemy of Earth
    I don't believe this is news to anyone who lives in a major city, especially cities run by the Democratic Party. They clearly don't believe Black Lives Matter since they enact policies which only exacerbate the problem of Blacks killing each other.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

    Like gun control, dumbed-down education and family-busting welfare policies, BLMania is a clever tactic by White liberals to eliminate blacks by acerbating inter-black violence. The Stupid Party doesn’t understand and never will.

  71. @Anon
    OT: A team of investigators has revealed the man whom they think was the betrayer of Anne Frank and her family. He's a Jewish notary called Arnold van den Bergh. "Van den Bergh had access to addresses where Jews were hiding as a member of Amsterdam’s wartime Jewish Council."

    https://nypost.com/2022/01/17/anne-franks-alleged-betrayer-to-nazis-named-researchers/

    Replies: @advancedatheist, @Enemy of Earth, @YetAnotherAnon, @Prosa123

    Anne Frank trivia: she was going through puberty while in hiding and wrote about it in considerable detail. After the war her father deleted those portions from the diary before submitting it for publication.

  72. @Undisclosed
    I just passed through a protest/memorial in Times Square organized by AAPIA AI

    Asian And Pacific Islander Americans Against Intimidation

    I shit you not.

    Anyway, the reason for it was that an Asian middle-aged woman was pushed in front of a train on the block of The New York Times building so the NYT ran a long article yesterday all about it even though iirc she had no family or friends and was just a professional business suit lady with cats.

    The NYT said that they will judge Adams on it so Adams got real friendly with the AAPIAAI to get himseof a speaking part at the memorial that his former mayoral opponent Curtis Sliwa was going to appear at and make into a big deal.

    Curtis got himself pushed off the dais when Adams and the new DA arrived (the new DA is a full blown #metoo #blm all-sex-crimes-all-the-time fellow who promises not to charge or punish violent crimes committed ny anything not a penis).

    Sliwa knows how to look good in a beret after 43 years but his peeps are almost universally fat, short and female.

    There were Catholic prayers and c*nty congressmen.

    And that's all I saw.

    Replies: @Rob, @Redman, @James J O'Meara

    Sounds like a typical day in the Big Bagel.

  73. @HammerJack
    @Anon

    Ssshh! We're not supposed to talk about the people whose Lives Don't Matter. Meanwhile here's the latest hero of the Democratic Party. They've just established a committee to erect statues to him, in place of some of the statues they've torn down over the past two years.

    https://i.ibb.co/dGD6YX1/Screenshot-20220119-010527-Daily-Mail-Online.jpg

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Escher, @SunBakedSuburb

    Mr. Kupfer, in his sorrow, was far too kind to this POS. This coward should be hunted down and killed like an animal.

    “while dressed in all black and wearing a distinctive backpack”

    My SA was on red alert this morning as I walked out of the grocery store. It was still dark when the tall slender black dude approached me and asked for “change,” which was a bluff; I suggested he fuck off and that made him pause as I looked at his stupified face as I passed by. I don’t recommend others to be so bold in their language but I’m sick of this white man deference and wilting in the presence of the mighty black man shit. My use of expletives was driven by the story of the hideous death of the young and beauteous Ms. Kupfer. And this clown I encountered this morning was wearing the same garb that her killer wore: black long-sleeve shirt and pants, and an identical “distinctive backpack.”

    I’ve got the size and demeanor that allows me to get away with this; but I’m quite aware that I’m approaching my mid 50s. If you offer them a civilized response they’ll take it as weakness. Be smart but don’t show fear.

    • Agree: Tony massey
  74. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Whiskey

    Shut up, citizen. The trained journalists will ask the correct questions.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Next thing you know, people will be asking to have input on their children’s education. The uppityness of the deplorables is really starting to get on my nerves. Follow the science, people!

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
  75. @Boston Joe
    @Rob

    The Boston T platforms have ladders at the end of the platform (Blue, Red and Orange Lines; the Green Line is all at grade or almost all at grade).

    I think if a train is coming into the station and someone throws you in front with a few seconds to impact: you’ll never make a ladder in time. You might be able to get back on the platform just by pulling yourself up to the platform if you are young, strong and quick.

    I think there may also be an area under the platform where you might dive in and let the train roll past…but that seems pretty far fetched—-“Hollywood” style.

    When I used to live in Boston: I would always stand well away from the tracks as I waited for the train and always keep an eye out for who was around me: who are they, how are behaving, anything odd, etc? Crowded train platforms can be dangerous even without a nut case around.

    Replies: @Prosa123

    There’s no clearance under the platforms on the NYC subway, People have survived by lying between the rails, as there is at least a foot of space between the ties and the bottom of the carbody, though it’s risky and won’t work at all if, as is sometimes the case, track crews are using the space to store spare rails.
    It’s not uncommon for people to die when they climb down to track level to retrieve dropped items only to find out too late that getting back up to the platform is difficult.

  76. @Whiskey
    Somewhat OT, but maybe not, is anyone ELSE puzzled by the Texas Synagogue shooting? The perp, one Malik something something has no job, no inherited money, and suffers according to friends and family in England from "mental instability." My question overall is, where is his money coming from for all the stuff he did?

    Somehow he gets a passport, VISA, and enough money for at least a one way airline ticket to NYC despite being unable to work or do much of anything according to his family. He then stays in and out of a homeless shelter for a week. Where was he when he was not in the homeless shelter? Who did he stay with? Supposedly he had no money to stay in a hotel, hence the homeless shelter, but suddenly he shows up in Texas at a Synagogue that is a few miles away from the Federal Prison where the female AQ terrorist is held (who is also a Pakistani citizen like the shooter).

    How did he get to Texas? Someone either drove him, or bought him a bus ticket, or purchased an airline ticket. He sure as hell didn't walk we know that. So who either paid for his transport or provided it for him?

    Then, in Texas, he someone how procured a gun even though Texas law forbids non Resident Aliens from purchasing a firearm. Who got him the gun -- remember this is a guy who would not have had the cash in NYC for a hotel instead of a homeless shelter, and supposedly could not even afford a plane ticket to NYC from England in the first place.

    And finally, how did he select the one Synagogue that was highly likely (as Reform) to be unarmed, members noted the Rabbi forbad weapons inside or any security. How, indeed? This is not a guy who would do long term surveillance of possible targets to find the one with the lowest risk of fighting back.

    At every step of the way someone was providing this guy with money, with transport, with a firearm, intel, and the target. Who? I don't think it was the FBI though they are covering it up as it reflects badly on their supposed core competence. Likely some AQ or Pakistani ISI affiliated group knowing how weak and ineffective US internal security aimed totally at White people is against them. Also likely a trial run for something bigger, if he could get through and hold hostages they could pull a TV spectacular which is their main aim as well.

    Internal security aimed 100% at Domestic Opponents (White people) means open season for jihad types who will take advantage. Even Obama never went this far. Collapse of Clown World Brandon is going to be very fast, and very complete.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Buffalo Joe, @James J O'Meara

    I don’t much like his obsession with “proving” every famous person is “in the peerage” but one interesting aspect of Miles Mathis is his emphasis on how everyone’s supposed biography is obvious bullshit. The whole “rags to riches” thing is done over and over, for instance. People graduate from college at 16 or so, travel around the continent, hold various jobs with no qualifications such as lawyer or astrophysicist, study with Schoenberg for a couple of weeks, suddenly appear in Budapest, etc.

    Take his paper on Wittgenstein. Scion of the richest Jews in Europe (later certified officially Aryan by the Nazis, because, why not?), “gives away” all his money (there’s the rags part), “works” as a schoolteacher, during which time he KILLS a student, but nothing happens (because, why would anything happen?), goes to Cambridge and becomes a full Professor of Philosophy (no college or publications), etc. etc.

    So back to your question, yes, if you really look at the “background” of any serial killer, lone gunman, rocket scientist, composer, actor, etc., you’ll see the same pattern: bullshit. Jewish crypsis plays a big role, of course, along with spooks.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @James J O'Meara

    Obviously, philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein's biography is a complete psy-op. Who ever knew Wittgenstein as a child? I mean besides Hayek, Hitler, Brahms, Mahler, Klimt and Rodin. I blame the King's Men.

  77. @Anon
    Who killed those 992 whites?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Wokechoke

    Approx 30% will be a black on white situation in a normal year. Perhaps more in 2020.

  78. @Steve Sailer
    @Zoos

    With NYC subways, there's room under the platform to shelter.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Keypusher, @Prosa123

    ‘With NYC subways there’s room under the platforms to shelter:

    Well there would be, except the third rail pickup shoes infringe into that space and leave no survival room.

    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    @Prosa123

    In many cases the third rail is on the far side of the tracks, where it belongs.

    Replies: @prosa123

  79. @Prosa123
    @Steve Sailer

    'With NYC subways there's room under the platforms to shelter:

    Well there would be, except the third rail pickup shoes infringe into that space and leave no survival room.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

    In many cases the third rail is on the far side of the tracks, where it belongs.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @Hangnail Hans

    In many cases the third rail is on the far side of the tracks, where it belongs.

    Correct. The reason why there's no survival space under the platform is that third rail pickup shoes protrude from each wheel assembly on both sides of each car.

  80. @Paperback Writer
    semi O/T (he's black)

    Andre Leon Talley died. He may not be known to most Men of Unz and good for you, but he was a celebrity in the fashion world once upon a time. The usual fulsome accolades (pioneering, groundbreaking) fill the air.

    There may be a Steve Sailer post in this pattern: the gay black male pet, a plaything of rich white women, who is in reality a dysfunctional mess. It's amazing he lived as long as he did. Contrast this buffoon with a white homosexual like Tim Gunn, who is sane and functional, and no one's pet.

    Replies: @Jack D, @SunBakedSuburb, @Brutusale

    He was the pet of one rich white woman, Anna Wintour, the Prada-wearing devil.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Brutusale

    She was the primary owner. He had a lot of other stepmoms and dads. When he died he was 500K in hock to a couple of rich gays.

    It's a living, or was. He just mooched off rich white sybarites & homosexuals. Reparations.

  81. @SafeNow
    Where and how do blacks get the guns? I have never seen published a meaningful, trustworthy, quantitative, step-by-step, non-anecdotal description of the procedures. Is this, like, a Manhattan Project type of secret - - lots of people know, but yet it remains a secret?

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Jim Don Bob, @Known Fact, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Strother Martin and his crew of good ol’ boys show with a box truck full of enchanted guns and ammo and cackle as they hand them out to frightened black fathers desperate to defend their families from racist police and white supremacists. But the enchanted guns have other plans.

    • Agree: Bull Gator
    • LOL: nokangaroos
  82. @Wilkey
    IIRC, I pointed this out an earlier thread a few weeks ago. It's estimated that 3,446 blacks were lynched from 1882-1968. So the increase alone in the number of blacks who were murdered in 2020 vs 2019 is greater than the total number of blacks who were lynched in the last 140 years (since almost no one has been lynched since 1968).

    But hey, it was totally worth an additional 3,564 dead blacks to get back at the white man for sitting there waiting for an ambulance while lifelong criminal George Floyd was dying of an overdose, yes?

    Replies: @Barnard

    I hadn’t looked at the Monroe Work map recently, but based on the last time, I knew they were trying to expand the definition of lynching to bump up the total numbers you mention and try to break out categories like Latinx and Italian in order to facilitate the flight from white. They are so desperate it is getting comical now. Their most recent additions include Heather Heyer, Ahmed Arbery and Brian Sicknick. I am surprised they did not throw in Michael Brown or Freddy Gray. You have to click on the broader definition map to see their entries for Sicknick and Heyer, they include Arbery in both.

    https://plaintalkhistory.com/monroeandflorencework/explore/

  83. YES!! This is awesome news!!! Can it continue to rise?

  84. @James J O'Meara
    @Whiskey

    I don't much like his obsession with "proving" every famous person is "in the peerage" but one interesting aspect of Miles Mathis is his emphasis on how everyone's supposed biography is obvious bullshit. The whole "rags to riches" thing is done over and over, for instance. People graduate from college at 16 or so, travel around the continent, hold various jobs with no qualifications such as lawyer or astrophysicist, study with Schoenberg for a couple of weeks, suddenly appear in Budapest, etc.

    Take his paper on Wittgenstein. Scion of the richest Jews in Europe (later certified officially Aryan by the Nazis, because, why not?), "gives away" all his money (there's the rags part), "works" as a schoolteacher, during which time he KILLS a student, but nothing happens (because, why would anything happen?), goes to Cambridge and becomes a full Professor of Philosophy (no college or publications), etc. etc.

    So back to your question, yes, if you really look at the "background" of any serial killer, lone gunman, rocket scientist, composer, actor, etc., you'll see the same pattern: bullshit. Jewish crypsis plays a big role, of course, along with spooks.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Obviously, philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein’s biography is a complete psy-op. Who ever knew Wittgenstein as a child? I mean besides Hayek, Hitler, Brahms, Mahler, Klimt and Rodin. I blame the King’s Men.

    • LOL: hhsiii
  85. @Hangnail Hans
    @Prosa123

    In many cases the third rail is on the far side of the tracks, where it belongs.

    Replies: @prosa123

    In many cases the third rail is on the far side of the tracks, where it belongs.

    Correct. The reason why there’s no survival space under the platform is that third rail pickup shoes protrude from each wheel assembly on both sides of each car.

    • Thanks: Hangnail Hans
  86. @Change that Matters
    It's surprising homicide didn't disappear like the flu.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Wade Hampton

    Lead poisoning aggravates the ‘Rona.

  87. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    If Black Lives don't really matter to Blacks, why am I supposed to give a shit?

    It's black-on-everyone-else crime that matters, and that's going up, too.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @bomag, @Alrenous, @Wade Hampton

    “If Black Lives don’t really matter to Blacks, why am I supposed to give a shit?…”

    Certainly other commenters have interesting responses, but the correct response to your question is as follows:

    Black lives don’t matter to blacks. And European Americans are not required to give a shit, so they shouldn’t. Caring about things that you can’t influence is a short, straight path to insanity.

  88. @Jack D
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    NYC’s excuses are pathetic.
     
    There are other older systems (Paris) that have retrofitted platform doors. There are systems where the barriers rise up vertically so that precise stopping is not required:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBu0dHy77uc

    A lot of NY stations have low ceilings so this exact system might not work but you could make the individual panels shorter and increase their number or a system with curved tracks like a garage door where the panels would be stored horizontally along the ceiling. It's not absolutely necessary to make the barriers full height .

    The main reason NY has not done this is cost. Mass transit in big American cities (government projects in general) suffers from "cost disease" - after all of the environmental studies and consultants and union featherbedding and blah, blah, blah, any capital project costs 10x what it should really cost. NY considered platform doors but they concluded that their capital budget was better spent on signal upgrades.

    Since Covid, ridership on the subway has not returned to pre-Covid levels and may never return to pre-Covid levels as many office workers are going to permanently remain remote at least part time. So, absent gifts from Uncle Sam, they are going to have even less $ to spend in the future.

    Replies: @prosa123, @The Last Real Calvinist

    Since Covid, ridership on the subway has not returned to pre-Covid levels and may never return to pre-Covid levels as many office workers are going to permanently remain remote at least part time.

    Depressing thought: in the case of a publicly traded company, top management may not be able to bring people back to the office in some cases even if they want to do so and even if Covid vanishes. Consider a perfectly reasonable scenario. After two years of WFH the employees are productive and the company’s doing well. In fact this often seems to be the case. If there’s an expensive office lease up for renewal, the shareholders would have valid reason to object if the company bosses renew the lease. We have to live with the bleak possibility that for many companies WFH is here to stay 🙁

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @prosa123

    Why is this bleak? The nature of capitalism is that your cheese is constantly being moved by various social, environmental, technological and political developments. If you keep looking for the cheese in the place where it USED TO BE , you're gonna starve.

    Replies: @prosa123

    , @Thea
    @prosa123

    WFH is awesome. Less chance to be accused of racism and fired for not smiling enthusiastically at a non-white colleague at the water cooler.

    Replies: @prosa123

  89. @Frenemy
    @Enemy of Earth

    Perhaps if the Nazis hadn't decided to physically remove Jews from this Earth Anne Frank would have had a normal, boring life and noone would have read her diary.

    Besides, the death toll of Jews at the hands of Nazis was a few orders of magnitude greater than the death toll of American blacks at the hands of vigilante whites, so your comparison is rather disingenuous.

    Until you get rid of your antisemitism you have zero chance of winning.

    Replies: @Enemy of Earth, @J.Ross

    Well , hell’s bells, you forgot to accuse me of racism.

    • LOL: Tony massey
    • Replies: @fish
    @Enemy of Earth

    Don’t worry, I’m sure he gets to it down thread!

  90. @prosa123
    @Jack D

    Since Covid, ridership on the subway has not returned to pre-Covid levels and may never return to pre-Covid levels as many office workers are going to permanently remain remote at least part time.

    Depressing thought: in the case of a publicly traded company, top management may not be able to bring people back to the office in some cases even if they want to do so and even if Covid vanishes. Consider a perfectly reasonable scenario. After two years of WFH the employees are productive and the company's doing well. In fact this often seems to be the case. If there's an expensive office lease up for renewal, the shareholders would have valid reason to object if the company bosses renew the lease. We have to live with the bleak possibility that for many companies WFH is here to stay :(

    Replies: @Jack D, @Thea

    Why is this bleak? The nature of capitalism is that your cheese is constantly being moved by various social, environmental, technological and political developments. If you keep looking for the cheese in the place where it USED TO BE , you’re gonna starve.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @Jack D

    Why is this bleak? The nature of capitalism is that your cheese is constantly being moved by various social, environmental, technological and political developments. If you keep looking for the cheese in the place where it USED TO BE , you’re gonna starve.

    Let me tell you about the Amish Farm. It was a huge and extremely popular deli/buffet restaurant in Lower Manhattan. Interesting note: the owners were Turkish, not Amish. For many years it had done excellent business with office workers getting coffee before work, or sandwiches and steam-table fare for lunch. It survived 9/11, which was just a few blocks away, and more recently survived a gas leak that sickened many employees. Unfortunately, it couldn't survive Covid, as business fell 90% with its former customers WFH. It closed in September 2020, and even if through some miracle WFH disappears and everyone's back in the office, it will never return. Jesus may have been resurrected, but closed businesses never are.

    Repeat this story countless times, and you'll get an idea of what WFH has done to businesses that serve office workers. As more and more businesses close, and with all the empty office buildings, urban downtowns will get more and more bleak. Decay surely follows.

    Speaking of empty office buildings, as leases expire without being renewed landlords will face increasing financial pressures. There will be more and more mortgage defaults, and in turn that will pressure the lenders. We already saw in 2008-2009 just how destructive a surge of mortgage defaults can be. Of course, this wouldn't be close in magnitude to what happened back then, but our economy is also in far weaker shape today.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar

  91. @prosa123
    @Jack D

    Since Covid, ridership on the subway has not returned to pre-Covid levels and may never return to pre-Covid levels as many office workers are going to permanently remain remote at least part time.

    Depressing thought: in the case of a publicly traded company, top management may not be able to bring people back to the office in some cases even if they want to do so and even if Covid vanishes. Consider a perfectly reasonable scenario. After two years of WFH the employees are productive and the company's doing well. In fact this often seems to be the case. If there's an expensive office lease up for renewal, the shareholders would have valid reason to object if the company bosses renew the lease. We have to live with the bleak possibility that for many companies WFH is here to stay :(

    Replies: @Jack D, @Thea

    WFH is awesome. Less chance to be accused of racism and fired for not smiling enthusiastically at a non-white colleague at the water cooler.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @Thea

    WFH is awesome. Less chance to be accused of racism and fired for not smiling enthusiastically at a non-white colleague at the water cooler.

    Cite me some cases where that actually happened. And if it's a real thing, well I'm sure that not smiling during a Zoom meeting will be just as bad.

  92. @PiltdownMan
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    https://youtu.be/6cj1raId-Po?t=97



    https://youtu.be/f4Ewf09o0t4

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    Yeah, Admiralty station at rush hour is not much fun.

    These videos make HK’s MTR look much less orderly than Singapore’s MRT, but in reality it’s not that different anymore. People here are now significantly more polite and well-behaved in public than they were when I arrived here 30 years ago. MTR platforms all have lining-up zones marked out on the floor, and by and large people abide by them.

    The last MTR etiquette hurdle to be overcome is convincing people on the platform waiting to get on a train to stay put until the people exiting the train have gotten off. There are some people here — largely from the older generation — who’ll try to squeeze past the disembarking passengers by any means necessary, especially if they think they might get a seat. You’ll often see people do this even if a train is just a station or two from its terminus, which means you get a seat only for a couple of minutes before you have to get off the train anyway. But for some HK people, competing for this ephemeral public resource is a Pavlovian response; they just can’t seem to help themselves.

  93. @Jack D
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    NYC’s excuses are pathetic.
     
    There are other older systems (Paris) that have retrofitted platform doors. There are systems where the barriers rise up vertically so that precise stopping is not required:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBu0dHy77uc

    A lot of NY stations have low ceilings so this exact system might not work but you could make the individual panels shorter and increase their number or a system with curved tracks like a garage door where the panels would be stored horizontally along the ceiling. It's not absolutely necessary to make the barriers full height .

    The main reason NY has not done this is cost. Mass transit in big American cities (government projects in general) suffers from "cost disease" - after all of the environmental studies and consultants and union featherbedding and blah, blah, blah, any capital project costs 10x what it should really cost. NY considered platform doors but they concluded that their capital budget was better spent on signal upgrades.

    Since Covid, ridership on the subway has not returned to pre-Covid levels and may never return to pre-Covid levels as many office workers are going to permanently remain remote at least part time. So, absent gifts from Uncle Sam, they are going to have even less $ to spend in the future.

    Replies: @prosa123, @The Last Real Calvinist

    There are other older systems (Paris) that have retrofitted platform doors.

    Yes, thanks for the examples of alternate ways of installing platform doors.

    The majority of HK MTR stations were retrofitted with doors. Not all stations here use the same kind; some do indeed have the 3/4 height ones only. Some are fitted in stations where the platforms are straight, others in stations with curved platforms. But they are equally effective.

    I suppose it makes sense for NYC to spend its money on signalling first, because from my understanding, without a fairly sophisticated signalling system, platform doors aren’t going to work. They obviously need to be well-coordinated both physically and temporally with the train doors.

    Fear of crime must, at least to some degree, be suppressing ridership on the NYC subway. Installing platform doors would at least eliminate one aspect of that fear.

  94. @Jack D
    @prosa123

    Why is this bleak? The nature of capitalism is that your cheese is constantly being moved by various social, environmental, technological and political developments. If you keep looking for the cheese in the place where it USED TO BE , you're gonna starve.

    Replies: @prosa123

    Why is this bleak? The nature of capitalism is that your cheese is constantly being moved by various social, environmental, technological and political developments. If you keep looking for the cheese in the place where it USED TO BE , you’re gonna starve.

    Let me tell you about the Amish Farm. It was a huge and extremely popular deli/buffet restaurant in Lower Manhattan. Interesting note: the owners were Turkish, not Amish. For many years it had done excellent business with office workers getting coffee before work, or sandwiches and steam-table fare for lunch. It survived 9/11, which was just a few blocks away, and more recently survived a gas leak that sickened many employees. Unfortunately, it couldn’t survive Covid, as business fell 90% with its former customers WFH. It closed in September 2020, and even if through some miracle WFH disappears and everyone’s back in the office, it will never return. Jesus may have been resurrected, but closed businesses never are.

    Repeat this story countless times, and you’ll get an idea of what WFH has done to businesses that serve office workers. As more and more businesses close, and with all the empty office buildings, urban downtowns will get more and more bleak. Decay surely follows.

    Speaking of empty office buildings, as leases expire without being renewed landlords will face increasing financial pressures. There will be more and more mortgage defaults, and in turn that will pressure the lenders. We already saw in 2008-2009 just how destructive a surge of mortgage defaults can be. Of course, this wouldn’t be close in magnitude to what happened back then, but our economy is also in far weaker shape today.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @prosa123

    Rents, including residential rents, in NYC are ridiculously high compared to most cities in America. Many of the older Class B office buildings in Lower Manhattan have already been converted to residential and even more will in the next wave. Modern buildings with large floor plates and inoperable windows are harder to convert to residential so they will have to find other uses. WFH was going to come sooner or later but Covid made it sooner. So it goes.

    The Amish Farm guys must have had some other gig in Turkey (I doubt that Amish cuisine is big in Istanbul) but they were clever and flexible people so they figured out something new to do in America and now that things have changed they will have to figure out something new to do again. That's the great thing about being human. If you are a spiny anteater and the ants disappear you are really really screwed but humans can adapt.

    I'm not saying that this is a painless process but no pain, no gain. Before it was the Amish Farm, at one time it really WAS a farm, but things change and change again. How many different uses has that spot had since the 17th century? If you try to lock things in amber, you get stagnation.

    Replies: @prosa123

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @prosa123


    Speaking of empty office buildings...
     
    ...the Chinese are ahead of us on that measure, too:

    Shanghai Tower Still Half-Empty 3 Years After Completion

    In consolation, Shanghainese can enjoy live performances by the Beatles.

    We Spoke to Japanese Paul McCartney of the Shanghai Beatles

    https://www.thatsmags.com/image/view/202201/1312529617.jpg

  95. @Thea
    @prosa123

    WFH is awesome. Less chance to be accused of racism and fired for not smiling enthusiastically at a non-white colleague at the water cooler.

    Replies: @prosa123

    WFH is awesome. Less chance to be accused of racism and fired for not smiling enthusiastically at a non-white colleague at the water cooler.

    Cite me some cases where that actually happened. And if it’s a real thing, well I’m sure that not smiling during a Zoom meeting will be just as bad.

  96. @prosa123
    @Jack D

    Why is this bleak? The nature of capitalism is that your cheese is constantly being moved by various social, environmental, technological and political developments. If you keep looking for the cheese in the place where it USED TO BE , you’re gonna starve.

    Let me tell you about the Amish Farm. It was a huge and extremely popular deli/buffet restaurant in Lower Manhattan. Interesting note: the owners were Turkish, not Amish. For many years it had done excellent business with office workers getting coffee before work, or sandwiches and steam-table fare for lunch. It survived 9/11, which was just a few blocks away, and more recently survived a gas leak that sickened many employees. Unfortunately, it couldn't survive Covid, as business fell 90% with its former customers WFH. It closed in September 2020, and even if through some miracle WFH disappears and everyone's back in the office, it will never return. Jesus may have been resurrected, but closed businesses never are.

    Repeat this story countless times, and you'll get an idea of what WFH has done to businesses that serve office workers. As more and more businesses close, and with all the empty office buildings, urban downtowns will get more and more bleak. Decay surely follows.

    Speaking of empty office buildings, as leases expire without being renewed landlords will face increasing financial pressures. There will be more and more mortgage defaults, and in turn that will pressure the lenders. We already saw in 2008-2009 just how destructive a surge of mortgage defaults can be. Of course, this wouldn't be close in magnitude to what happened back then, but our economy is also in far weaker shape today.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar

    Rents, including residential rents, in NYC are ridiculously high compared to most cities in America. Many of the older Class B office buildings in Lower Manhattan have already been converted to residential and even more will in the next wave. Modern buildings with large floor plates and inoperable windows are harder to convert to residential so they will have to find other uses. WFH was going to come sooner or later but Covid made it sooner. So it goes.

    The Amish Farm guys must have had some other gig in Turkey (I doubt that Amish cuisine is big in Istanbul) but they were clever and flexible people so they figured out something new to do in America and now that things have changed they will have to figure out something new to do again. That’s the great thing about being human. If you are a spiny anteater and the ants disappear you are really really screwed but humans can adapt.

    I’m not saying that this is a painless process but no pain, no gain. Before it was the Amish Farm, at one time it really WAS a farm, but things change and change again. How many different uses has that spot had since the 17th century? If you try to lock things in amber, you get stagnation.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @Jack D

    Many/most workers actually benefit from WFH, as it frees them from the inconvenience and cost of commuting and given them some degree of freedom in choosing places to live. The thing is, these are minor benefits in the grand scheme of things.

    While a much smaller number of people and businesses suffer from WFH, it is a far bigger burden. In cases such as the owners of the Amish Farm it results in financial ruin. That far outweighs the very minor benefits for most workers.

    As for the inevitability of WFH, the concept (once called telecommuting) has been around for 20+ years and for maybe the last five years the technology has made it more and more viable. Pre-Covid, however, it had never gotten far, encountering way too much resistance from companies, individual managers, and employees.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @hhsiii, @Jack D

  97. @Jack D
    @prosa123

    Rents, including residential rents, in NYC are ridiculously high compared to most cities in America. Many of the older Class B office buildings in Lower Manhattan have already been converted to residential and even more will in the next wave. Modern buildings with large floor plates and inoperable windows are harder to convert to residential so they will have to find other uses. WFH was going to come sooner or later but Covid made it sooner. So it goes.

    The Amish Farm guys must have had some other gig in Turkey (I doubt that Amish cuisine is big in Istanbul) but they were clever and flexible people so they figured out something new to do in America and now that things have changed they will have to figure out something new to do again. That's the great thing about being human. If you are a spiny anteater and the ants disappear you are really really screwed but humans can adapt.

    I'm not saying that this is a painless process but no pain, no gain. Before it was the Amish Farm, at one time it really WAS a farm, but things change and change again. How many different uses has that spot had since the 17th century? If you try to lock things in amber, you get stagnation.

    Replies: @prosa123

    Many/most workers actually benefit from WFH, as it frees them from the inconvenience and cost of commuting and given them some degree of freedom in choosing places to live. The thing is, these are minor benefits in the grand scheme of things.

    While a much smaller number of people and businesses suffer from WFH, it is a far bigger burden. In cases such as the owners of the Amish Farm it results in financial ruin. That far outweighs the very minor benefits for most workers.

    As for the inevitability of WFH, the concept (once called telecommuting) has been around for 20+ years and for maybe the last five years the technology has made it more and more viable. Pre-Covid, however, it had never gotten far, encountering way too much resistance from companies, individual managers, and employees.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @prosa123


    Many/most workers actually benefit from WFH, as it frees them from the inconvenience and cost of commuting and given them some degree of freedom in choosing places to live. The thing is, these are minor benefits in the grand scheme of things.
     
    Saving 1-2 hours each day and having freedom in choosing a place to live are mere “minor benefits”?? How so?
    , @hhsiii
    @prosa123

    I got lunch at the Amish Farm a few times. It was kind of just a huge bodega with a salad/pasta bar, although it had a bunch of other stations. But everyone is back working at corp counsel so they should open back up. But I guess like you said they never return. A lot of lunch spots down there have closed over the years.

    , @Jack D
    @prosa123

    As you say, WFH is beneficial to employees for the most part. Employers did not implement it because people fear change but once it was forced upon them they realized it was workable.

    Are we supposed to force workers back into their offices so that Amish Farms will have a lunch trade and so Manhattan office rents stay high? At this point, WFH is pretty much up to the employers again so the markets will decide whether it becomes a permanent feature of the economy. After the shock there's going to be a new equilibrium which will be different than the old equilibrium. Amish Farms out, Door Dash in. That's how it goes.

  98. @Enemy of Earth
    @Frenemy

    Well , hell's bells, you forgot to accuse me of racism.

    Replies: @fish

    Don’t worry, I’m sure he gets to it down thread!

  99. Anonymous[356] • Disclaimer says:
    @prosa123
    @Jack D

    Many/most workers actually benefit from WFH, as it frees them from the inconvenience and cost of commuting and given them some degree of freedom in choosing places to live. The thing is, these are minor benefits in the grand scheme of things.

    While a much smaller number of people and businesses suffer from WFH, it is a far bigger burden. In cases such as the owners of the Amish Farm it results in financial ruin. That far outweighs the very minor benefits for most workers.

    As for the inevitability of WFH, the concept (once called telecommuting) has been around for 20+ years and for maybe the last five years the technology has made it more and more viable. Pre-Covid, however, it had never gotten far, encountering way too much resistance from companies, individual managers, and employees.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @hhsiii, @Jack D

    Many/most workers actually benefit from WFH, as it frees them from the inconvenience and cost of commuting and given them some degree of freedom in choosing places to live. The thing is, these are minor benefits in the grand scheme of things.

    Saving 1-2 hours each day and having freedom in choosing a place to live are mere “minor benefits”?? How so?

  100. @HammerJack
    @HammerJack

    https://i.ibb.co/XS9zL4B/Screenshot-20220119-070933-Daily-Mail-Online.jpg

    Are these mug shots or was he presciently posing for his new statue? Why are the Dems being so coy about this one?

    PS: Charleston is just one of a number of territories he's marked, coast to coast. Defund the police! Eliminate bail! Restorative Justice! No more disparate impact!

    Replies: @hhsiii

    I mean, weed and littering, ok, but you know that was just what the cops and lawyers could mail him for. But firing into a vehicle with that rap sheet?

  101. @Dr. X
    @Ghost of Bull Moose


    If Black Lives don’t really matter to Blacks, why am I supposed to give a shit?
     
    Because the wokesters and critical race theorists and the government are going to blame whites anyway, even for blacks killing other blacks.

    Flip a coin -- if it's heads, whites are to blame; tails, whites are to blame.

    Replies: @hhsiii

    That. Plus spillover and crossfire.

  102. @prosa123
    @Jack D

    Many/most workers actually benefit from WFH, as it frees them from the inconvenience and cost of commuting and given them some degree of freedom in choosing places to live. The thing is, these are minor benefits in the grand scheme of things.

    While a much smaller number of people and businesses suffer from WFH, it is a far bigger burden. In cases such as the owners of the Amish Farm it results in financial ruin. That far outweighs the very minor benefits for most workers.

    As for the inevitability of WFH, the concept (once called telecommuting) has been around for 20+ years and for maybe the last five years the technology has made it more and more viable. Pre-Covid, however, it had never gotten far, encountering way too much resistance from companies, individual managers, and employees.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @hhsiii, @Jack D

    I got lunch at the Amish Farm a few times. It was kind of just a huge bodega with a salad/pasta bar, although it had a bunch of other stations. But everyone is back working at corp counsel so they should open back up. But I guess like you said they never return. A lot of lunch spots down there have closed over the years.

  103. @prosa123
    @Jack D

    Many/most workers actually benefit from WFH, as it frees them from the inconvenience and cost of commuting and given them some degree of freedom in choosing places to live. The thing is, these are minor benefits in the grand scheme of things.

    While a much smaller number of people and businesses suffer from WFH, it is a far bigger burden. In cases such as the owners of the Amish Farm it results in financial ruin. That far outweighs the very minor benefits for most workers.

    As for the inevitability of WFH, the concept (once called telecommuting) has been around for 20+ years and for maybe the last five years the technology has made it more and more viable. Pre-Covid, however, it had never gotten far, encountering way too much resistance from companies, individual managers, and employees.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @hhsiii, @Jack D

    As you say, WFH is beneficial to employees for the most part. Employers did not implement it because people fear change but once it was forced upon them they realized it was workable.

    Are we supposed to force workers back into their offices so that Amish Farms will have a lunch trade and so Manhattan office rents stay high? At this point, WFH is pretty much up to the employers again so the markets will decide whether it becomes a permanent feature of the economy. After the shock there’s going to be a new equilibrium which will be different than the old equilibrium. Amish Farms out, Door Dash in. That’s how it goes.

  104. @prosa123
    @Jack D

    Why is this bleak? The nature of capitalism is that your cheese is constantly being moved by various social, environmental, technological and political developments. If you keep looking for the cheese in the place where it USED TO BE , you’re gonna starve.

    Let me tell you about the Amish Farm. It was a huge and extremely popular deli/buffet restaurant in Lower Manhattan. Interesting note: the owners were Turkish, not Amish. For many years it had done excellent business with office workers getting coffee before work, or sandwiches and steam-table fare for lunch. It survived 9/11, which was just a few blocks away, and more recently survived a gas leak that sickened many employees. Unfortunately, it couldn't survive Covid, as business fell 90% with its former customers WFH. It closed in September 2020, and even if through some miracle WFH disappears and everyone's back in the office, it will never return. Jesus may have been resurrected, but closed businesses never are.

    Repeat this story countless times, and you'll get an idea of what WFH has done to businesses that serve office workers. As more and more businesses close, and with all the empty office buildings, urban downtowns will get more and more bleak. Decay surely follows.

    Speaking of empty office buildings, as leases expire without being renewed landlords will face increasing financial pressures. There will be more and more mortgage defaults, and in turn that will pressure the lenders. We already saw in 2008-2009 just how destructive a surge of mortgage defaults can be. Of course, this wouldn't be close in magnitude to what happened back then, but our economy is also in far weaker shape today.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar

    Speaking of empty office buildings…

    …the Chinese are ahead of us on that measure, too:

    Shanghai Tower Still Half-Empty 3 Years After Completion

    In consolation, Shanghainese can enjoy live performances by the Beatles.

    We Spoke to Japanese Paul McCartney of the Shanghai Beatles

  105. @Known Fact
    @SafeNow


    Where and how do blacks get the guns?
     
    In my day all the "in-depth investigative reports" blamed Virginia. The Saturday Night Specials etc all supposedly were coming from Virginia. An alleged pipeline straight to NY. But that was before the Dems took over that state so they've been getting a pass from the press. Now that there's a Repub gov back in (who the lib media already loathes) expect the Virginia story to stage a revival. (The Chicago press probably likewise blames Indiana for all its problems)

    Replies: @Known Fact

    And right on cue today Mayor Adams is blaming “the flow of guns coming into the tri-state area.”

  106. I blame the Samoans. The once acquitted of murder, but now grandfatherly Mob James was shot on four separate occasions in Compton, and on two of those occasions it was Samoans. Once, a 12 year old Samoan blasted him with a shotgun. I bet that smarted.
    —–
    Give me liberty, or give me death!? Absolute death is always available but total liberty is not. Groups in the population differ on how much they value one over the other because the the cost relative benefit varies in their estimation. Thirty-six percent more likely to be murdered and 4000 percent less likely to be stopped by the police, Most blacks have never been murdered, but a lot of them have been stopped by the police might be a good deal for some folk. Bratton’s broken window policing became orthodoxy but it lost the ordinary blacks. Black people tend not to commit suicide because they have more pride, and that gets hurt being stopped. So they think better to live on ones feet and with somewhat greater chance of checking out early that have your ego repeatedly bruised or feel apprehension at every sight of a cop. Unless you are living a gangsta life or hangin’ with those who are, your chances of getting shot are very small. Just as in Braess’s paradox adding one or more roads to a road network can slow down overall traffic flow through it, society is too complicated for a one dimensional policing by zero tolerance of any infraction discovered by mass stop and frisk and ‘routine’ traffic stops. Cops were being assessed by how many trivial offences they wrote (often basically normal) people up for.

  107. @SunBakedSuburb
    @Paperback Writer

    "He may not be known to most Men of Unz ... he was a celebrity in the fashion world ..."

    Men of Unz, like Steve of Unz, are intimately familiar with the fashion and musical theatre worlds.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    I was being nice.

  108. @Brutusale
    @Paperback Writer

    He was the pet of one rich white woman, Anna Wintour, the Prada-wearing devil.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    She was the primary owner. He had a lot of other stepmoms and dads. When he died he was 500K in hock to a couple of rich gays.

    It’s a living, or was. He just mooched off rich white sybarites & homosexuals. Reparations.

  109. @Frenemy
    @Enemy of Earth

    Perhaps if the Nazis hadn't decided to physically remove Jews from this Earth Anne Frank would have had a normal, boring life and noone would have read her diary.

    Besides, the death toll of Jews at the hands of Nazis was a few orders of magnitude greater than the death toll of American blacks at the hands of vigilante whites, so your comparison is rather disingenuous.

    Until you get rid of your antisemitism you have zero chance of winning.

    Replies: @Enemy of Earth, @J.Ross

    What is winning? Is it an apartment in a toilet city? Is it crucifying innocent people with lawfare? Is it boutique health care? Is it being invited to Podesta parties? Is it a car you cannot fix? Is it making children wear masks? Is it flying on Epstein’s plane? Is it telling the media that your dead daughter should not make people forget that chimichangas are delicious? Is it addiction to pharmaceutical products? Is it losing a war to illiterate goatherds? Has there been some smashing success lately which makes winning attractive to you?

  110. @Altai
    @Jim Lahey

    “we can’t make the trains stop at the right spot”

    That's the biggest problem. The NY Subway during peak times is a real machine. Delays from drivers under or overshooting the doors will cause a lot of headaches and complaints. (And if you have claustrophobia, or there is a respiratory disease about, you may not appreciate making the station so much smaller for the waiting passengers)

    More and more subway/metro systems built in the last 15 years have fully automatic trains partly for this reason, they will always stop perfectly to line up with the doors.

    You could maybe make a barrier that covers the track and moves entirely out of the way when the train comes instead of a series of doors.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x96qpINmYWs&t=58s

    Of course the most notable thing is that around the world these barriers are known as 'suicide and accident prevention', NYC may be the only place in the world where they could credibly be called 'homicide prevention'.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @Reg Cæsar

    Riding Copenhagen’s newest Metro Line 🇩🇰

    Nå.

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