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Comedy giant (e.g., The Dick Van Dyke Show) Carl Reiner is dead at 98.

Unfortunately, this clip ends before Carl Reiner’s funniest moment in Ocean’s Twelve:

which is when the Bruce Willis, playing movie star Bruce Willis, notices that Danny Ocean’s wife, played by Julia Roberts, who is impersonating, for complicated heist-related reasons, Willis’s good friend the real Julia Roberts, is, unlike the movie star Julia Roberts, left-handed and her High Teutonic herr baby doktor played by Carl Reiner improvises a scientific-sounding rationalization: “Often pregnant women become ambidextrous.”

Okay, I realize that doesn’t make much sense the way I described it, but, trust me, if you watch the whole movie up to that point, it’s very funny.

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  1. Steve, I enjoy comedy very much. However, I don’t think being a funny guy in the movies is any great skill or boon to mankind for which I should care about the people involved “RIP”ing. It’s just the movies.

    #WhoCaresAboutCelebrities! @NotThisGuy

  2. Loved his appearance on Norm Macdonald Live 5 or so years ago. Calling Norm’s sidekick Ed McBoy, great industry stories etc.


    • Agree: slumber_j
  3. Money will keep you alive.

    • Replies: @Jack Armstrong
  4. Ray P says:

    Reiner was key in the development of Steve Martin’s screen career since he directed in succession The Jerk (1979), Dead Men Don’t Wear Plaid (1982), The Man with Two Brains (1983), and All of Me (1984) starring Martin.

    • Replies: @Mr. Grey
    , @Brás Cubas
  5. Reiner was inadvertently responsible for one of the top hit songs of 1969. He’d invited the Cowsills on a variety special he produced, and suggested a comic skit in which they covered the title tune from the current Broadway smash Hair.

    In the studio, the brothers realized it was better than they’d expected. They slipped an anonymous acetate to WLS in Chicago, which reached 45 states. The phones lit up, and the rest is history. Or at least Top Forty.

    I think this is the clip– thanks, Carl:

    • Thanks: hhsiii
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  6. Kylie says:

    Rob Reiner.

    • Agree: AnotherDad
    • Replies: @Deepysix
  7. Alfa158 says:

    And Mel Brooks, his partner in the 2,000 year old man skits is now 94. They must have taken the 2K Man’s advice to heart:

    Carl: Sir, can you tell us the secret to your remarkable longevity?
    Mel: (Heavy Yiddish accent) I nevah eat fried food.
    Carl: Never eat fried food.
    Mel: Nevah touch it. Also, I nevah run for a bus.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  8. BenKenobi says:

    Mel Brooks hated Carl Reiner.

    • Disagree: botazefa
    • Replies: @Ray P
    , @Jack D
  9. OT: Pepperoni swastika of doom in Cleveland OH suburb, with pic and video interview of recipients

    Couple finds swastika of pepperoni on their take-home pizza

    Employees fired after Saturday’s incident

    BROOK PARK, Ohio (WJW)– One of Little Caesars’ Hot N’ Ready Pizzas recently left a customer in northern Ohio fuming.

    “She turned and asked me ‘Babe, did you order this, did they make it for you?’ And I turned around and looked at it and I could see the shock on her face and then my jaw just dropped,” Jason Laska said.

    He ordered a pepperoni pizza. When he got home and opened the box, he found the pepperoni on the pizza in the shape of a swastika.

    “I was like they didn’t cut our pizza, but then I stepped back for a second and I saw the symbol. And I looked at him and I was like ‘Hold on, did you have to order fresh pizza or something?’” Misty Laska said.

    The Laskas did not eat the pizza, instead they saved it for proof. They immediately called the shop, which had closed just minutes earlier. They received a call from the local owner and the Little Caesars corporate office on Sunday.

    “Told him that it was supposed to be an internal joke that they were playing on each other and the other employee, and the pizza was never intended to go out. He also confirmed that he had let the employees go that morning,” Jason said.

    The Laskas visit that Little Caesars often because it is so close to their home, but after Saturday’s incident, they will never go there or any other Little Caesar’s location again.

    “It’s unacceptable and in our minds, we are just never going to go back there,” Jason said.

    “We are the type of people that support the diversity in our country, we embrace and love it. We just want to see this hate stop,” Misty said.

    FOX 8 reached out several times to Little Caesars seeking comment on the story and have yet to hear back.

  10. Way to buy in to the prevailing corrupt Hollywood supported (if not engendered) zeitgeist, Steve.

    You do realize that those movies celebrate criminals and their criminality, with the attendant duplicity and disregard for other people, to,wit, psychopathy.

    We always knew you had it in you.

    Not to mention that considered as entertainment they are a cynical exploitation of mediocrity.

    • LOL: moshe
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @SunBakedSuburb
  11. anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    A perfect time. JFK and Jackie on the news, reflected the Petri’s on the number 1 comedy show.

    Life was good, and then a committed Marxist, changed everything, in a blink.

    For the young people, here’s a good one from the show:

    • Thanks: Jim Christian
    • Replies: @Neoconned
    , @Jim Christian
  12. Anon[299] • Disclaimer says:

    And he gave us meathead! Damn those lansmen live forever, what’s the secret?

  13. Deepysix says:

    Your succinct response conveys my sentiments uncannily.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    , @Kylie
  14. syonredux says:

    Dead Men Don’t Wear Plaid is my favorite Carl Reiner movie:

    • Replies: @hhsiii
  15. @Deepysix

    Same here. And then some. And stay the hell outta Malibu or else.

    • Thanks: Kylie
    • Replies: @Deepysix
  16. Mr. Anon says:
    @donald j tingle

    You do realize that those movies celebrate criminals and their criminality, with the attendant duplicity and disregard for other people, to,wit, psychopathy.

    People can admire smart theives. Anyway, it was about a group of thieves who rob casinos, so it was a thieves-stealing-from-thieves story.

    Most movies about notable politicians and historical figures also celebrate psychopathy.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
  17. Ray P says:
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    “You can’t taste racism.” (Clerks II)

  18. e says:

    Mel Brooks, funny; Carl Reiner, meh.

    • Agree: Lot
  19. @Ripple Earthdevil

    The pizza place missed the perfect response: “You’re supposed to stick a fork in it and say: The Nazis are Done NOW!”

  20. Anonymous[374] • Disclaimer says:

    As a tribute to Carl, politics as comedy

    The Left jeered older authority of the stage, they have had this Open Mic quite a while now and are bombing and failing massively.

    The anger they generated is too quickly turning into laughter…

    New Chant towards our Leftists overloads ” Drop the Mic and Go”

  21. J1234 says:

    Wow, yet another celebrity who I thought died years ago has died. Olivia de Havilland is still alive, I think. It’s amazing that an actress who appeared in Gone With the Wind as an adult is still around.

  22. It’s odd how when it comes to Trump, all of the so-called funny people suddenly have no sense of humor.

  23. @Joe Stalin

    He was so old I believe he owned slaves.

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Giancarlo M. Kumquat
  24. Matra says:

    He was in the film “The Russians are Coming! The Russians are Coming!”

    He spent his last years on Twitter ranting that “The Russians are running our government!”

    • Replies: @e
  25. e says:

    Asshole, just like his son.

  26. Ray P says:

    Almost everyone hates Mel Brooks. Perhaps Brooks resented Reiner playing a better Nazi officer (in Dead Men) than he ever had?

    • Replies: @slumber_j
  27. J. Farmer says:

    Born in the early 80’s but grew up on The Dick Van Dyke Show via Nick-at-Nite. The original pilot starring Reiner is included in the DVD set. Easy to imagine execs at the time saying what they would say about the Seinfeld pilot thirty years later: “Too New York, too Jewish.” Reiner was much better as the egomaniacal star (originally in a never-seen, voice-only gimmick) than an as the suburban family man.

    Somebody already beat me to the “Alan Brady is Bald” episode. Reiner’s scene with his toupees and later Mary Tyler Moore is a classic. She was equal to the task, a great comedienne and an absolute knockout. They were probably the first sitcom couple with palpable sexual chemistry, twin beds not withstanding.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    , @Jane Plain
  28. loc says:

    Well of course that’s true. It facilitates breastfeeding.

  29. anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    Maybe this is a good time to cancel Rob Reiner, AND Steve Colbert!

    Watch Rob describe his sexual assault of Mary Tyler Moore–who must have realized he’d suffer no serious repercussions because his dad was her boss–while Steve Colbert laughs hysterically… #cancelrobreiner

  30. @donald j tingle

    “You do realize that those movies celebrate criminals and their criminality”

    The best ones do, yes.

  31. @Mr. Anon

    Everyone looks up to psychopaths. As our good friend Whiskey would remind us, “Wackos make ’em wet.” Women HATE HATE HATE non-psychopathic men. Guys like Charles Manson and Ted Bundy are chicknip.

    Now, if you’ll excuse me, I need to go practice my penetrating tingle-inducing stare.

    • LOL: Clyde
  32. botazefa says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Steve, I enjoy comedy very much. However, I don’t think being a funny guy in the movies is any great skill or boon to mankind for which I should care about the people involved “RIP”ing. It’s just the movies

    You’re joking, right?

    Poor Mel Brooks.

  33. @Achmed E. Newman

    Comedy will make a comeback when tipsy SF socialite Kamala takes up residence in the White House. Hollywood will be buying up scripts that openly ridicule the black goons and their white insect kids. I might be wrong about this.

  34. @Ripple Earthdevil

    I used to deliver pizza pies myself (see Peak Stupidity’s story “A Fistful of Pennies”), but this is a new one. I almost slammed the pie upside-down on the guy’s driveway when he smirked at me for having to give it to them free for taking over 30 minutes (it was in the damn oven too long!), but I relaxed and the dude gave me a 5 dollar tip.

    This Swasticker thing would be brilliant, but I have a hard time believing it. They don’t want you giving out enough pepperoni, corporate policy being what it is, to make a decent Swasticker. Now, were it anchovies, as a customer, I’d be truly offended! Anchovies, what kind of Nazi shit is that?!

    “Hello, Little Caesar’s, Seig Heil, Seig Heil, crap, I mean Pizza, PIzza.”

    • LOL: Jim Christian
  35. @Reg Cæsar

    Sorry, this is the clip with Reiner’s sense of humor:

  36. R.I.P., but I never found Carl Reiner all that funny. And I absolutely despised Mel Brooks and his idiotic “mugging,” which came off more like neediness or neuroticism.

    I also hold Carl Reiner responsible for unleashing Meathead on an unsuspecting world. And if you think about it, he’s also partially responsible for the success of Mary Tyler Moore. Strike three! Reiner’s out!

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  37. COVID, or just old age?

  38. Pat Boyle says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Wrong, wrong, wrong. As Edmund Kean (supposedly) said on his death bed – “Dying is easy, comedy is hard”. Hollywood is desperate for good comedies. Consider the lowest rated movie stars now before the public – Chevy Chase and Eddie Murphy. Movies and movie stars vary a lot. Almost all actors and directors have to make two thirds good films to stay employable. Except comedians. Chase and Murphy have far more duds than hits. But Hollywood is so desperate for comedies that these two has-beens keeping getting work.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  39. slumber_j says:
    @Ray P

    Mel Brooks went out of the way to introduce himself and to be pleasant to me, a young nobody, when I met him in the Fox Commissary in like 1990. I think I’ve told the story here before and so won’t repeat it, but it was remarkable.

    Anyway, Carl Reiner was really great.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  40. Mr. Grey says:
    @Ray P

    Great movies. I wonder when they will come after Steve Martin for claiming to be born a young black child?

  41. @Achmed E. Newman

    He made millions of people happy for decades. I think John Stewart Mill would have disagreed with you about Carl Reiner.

  42. Mr. Grey says:

    Does anybody remember Reiner’s show ‘Good Heavens’? I remember it as a kid in the 70s. It only lasted one season so it never made it to syndication. I remember it being funny, and different than the usual sitcoms on TV, so maybe that’s why it didn’t last.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  43. Reiner was pretty much healthy and mentally competent until yesterday. He had a very good life.

    On a meta-level, his embrace of the Russia collusion nonsense was pretty funny, but he never seemed to get that joke.

    • Replies: @hhsiii
  44. Clyde says:
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    You gotta love those douche-cowardly words “unacceptable” and “inappropriate”. If they are so smart, how come they are not suing Little Caesars for a few million dollars? Here are photos of the pepperoni swastika pizza pie and of Jason Laska and his girlfriend.

  45. @anonymous

    Maybe this is a good time to cancel Rob Reiner, AND Steve Colbert!

    Where do I sign? It couldn’t happen to two nicer guys.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  46. On a lighter note from RIP noticing, tomorrow, July 1, is classic Hollywood actress Olivia DeHavilland’s 104th birthday. She may well be the last of the major thespians who worked during classic Hollywood’s heyday.

  47. @Ray P

    Well, what with Martin being the real brain behind all but the last of those movies, and the star of the last one, it would be closer to the truth to say Martin was key in the survival of Reiner’s screen career as a director.

    Martin’s humor has an unmistakable style, which is present in all the films he wrote or co-wrote.

  48. Thoughts says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I agree.

    Comedy is like normal acting, it’s like winning the lotto and lots of people could do your job well.

    Will Farrell’s latest is awesome, such a great movie.

    But I know a lot of younger guys that were/are just as talented…moreso perhaps (we’ll never know)…languishing…One guy I know got his bigger break at age 39…and they are still not treating him right (white male, of course)

    So if you want to think ‘Comedy is Hard’ cuz some comedian who was trying to protect his Lottery-Ticket Job said so…well

    You’re pretty gullible!

  49. @Pat Boyle

    3 out of 5 disagrees, but most with the point being missed. Again, I don’t care about Hollywood people. They are not on our side. Just because they can be very hilarious at times doesn’t mean they are good people. (Steve Martin seems like a great guy, but what do I know? What do you know? Did you stand behind him in line at the Safeway?)

    I had a bunch of comments just today about funny stuff, and enjoyed the Fletch video (with my favorite scene being the aviation mechanic/ball bearings one). It’s not that I don’t appreciate it. I have no reason to revere these people though, sorry.

    (Maybe your disagreement, Pat, is just about it taking skill. It’s not what I think of as a skill, but no doubt, not everyone can do a great job like Chevy Chase or, well hundreds of them.)

  50. Neoconned says:


    Oceans 12 is bizarrely a very entertaining film.

  51. Neoconned says:

    With due respect JFK was horribly mediocre and the most overrated president in American history with LBJ and Nixon among the most underrated presidents….

    JFK is revered and Nixon reviled as satan incarnate by weird aging Jewish Male beltway journalist types…..but agreed….the 1950s and 60s were a glorious time

  52. He and Danny Thomas were old buddies and co-producers. Arabs and Jews can get along very well.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  53. Anon[369] • Disclaimer says:


    They still haven’t gotten over being excluded from country clubs.

  54. EmailAsID says:

    Carl Reiner has been living with Trump Derangement Syndrome since 2016. It took four years for TDS to finally do him in. Pretty tough guy.

    It’s sad that Carl Reiner never got to see the Russian collusion investigation that he and his meathead son, Rob, promoted so emotionally (if not rationally) finally rid America of Trump.

    At least his son will be able to see the results of all their hard Leftist labor: watching blacks and Mexicans storm the beaches of Malibu and ridding it of its hideous whiteness.

  55. anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    As I’m thinking about it, didn’t Rob Reiner lead a massive charge against Malibu civic leaders who were intent on allowing a Walgreen’s to be built in Malibu because Reiner thought it would attract black people?

    He didn’t expressly mention black people. He indicated that he was just opposed to the class of people who might be attracted to Walgreen’s, which would affect the quality of life of good Malibuians. What’s that thing they say racist’s do? Dog whistling? That might be it.

    I recall at a large meeting, Reiner said, “Damn right I’m a NIMBY!!” with a certain hysteric white pride, that seemed to contain a bit of a racially rejective patina to those who might be sensitive to such things.

    He was successful in defeating the measure, btw.

    I’m not going to draw a committed conclusion, but it sure seems like Rob Reiner might be a “Mary Tyler Moore Ass Grabbing Keep the Black Folks Outta Malibu Good Ole Boy,” kind of fellow, when viewed from a general perspective.

    • Agree: Muggles
  56. Carl Reiner was investigated by the FBI due to his communist friends. He supported the communists who were blacklisted in Hollywood (and we’re talking about guys who liked Stalin).

    He was always accusing White people of anti-Semitism.

    He supported BLM. Up and down the line he was anti-American and anti-White.

    But sure, let’s celebrate him. LOL. I’m mean, I’m sure he did well on standardized tests. What else matters?

    • Agree: EmailAsID
  57. Michelle says:

    Hey, Steve this whole situation is reminding me of the 1968 film, “Wild in the Streets”.

  58. Currahee says:

    I so don’t care.

    • Troll: ScarletNumber
  59. @J. Farmer

    Mary Tyler Moore … was equal to the task, a great comedienne and an absolute knockout. They were probably the first sitcom couple with palpable sexual chemistry, twin beds not withstanding.

    The irony of their pairing was that she was supposed to be his young, pretty wife, with him being 11 years older than she is, and he has outlived her. She died at 80 and he is alive at 94.

  60. This song feels oddly appropriate.

  61. By the way, 98 is absolutely amazing.

    He seems to have been physically and mentally healthy up to the end. His life was about as good as it can get.

    • Replies: @danand
  62. @slumber_j

    This was the only version of the story I could find and you didn’t really elaborate, so the actual story would be nice.

    • Replies: @slumber_j
  63. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Still time to cancel her. GWTW.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  64. @Achmed E. Newman

    I agree with you, but it is called iSteve, not iHBD or iCharivari

  65. @Mr. Grey

    The last Carl Reiner project I really remember was Summer School. Not only was he the director, but he gave himself a cameo as the teacher who hit the lottery, setting into motion Mark Harmon having to teach English in summer school, even though he is a gym teacher.

    • Replies: @Mr. Grey
  66. Anonymous[146] • Disclaimer says:

    Think about it. Would you want Krugman in your club? And a million more like him? Of course they’d say “it’s just because we’re Jewish” but it’s actually because they’re rude, smug, sanctimonious, fault-finding, whiny, complaining, litigious, pushy and ugly. Did I miss anything?

    Krugman happily jumps on the Covid Bandwagon killing old white people simply because he’s rich and insulated and doesn’t care about ‘outgroup’ victims. Hmm, come to think of it, simply because he’s Jewish.

  67. slumber_j says:

    This was the only version of the story I could find and you didn’t really elaborate, so the actual story would be nice.

    Fair enough. Around 1990 when I was working for the architect Richard Meier at his LA office in Westwood while Richard Meier + Partners were working on The Getty Center project, Barry Diller (who was then running Fox) summoned Richard for a meeting. Diller, with his (almost certainly gay) fastidiousness in high gear, was tired of all the moviemaking clutter on the Fox Lot and wanted to engage RM+P to do a master plan that would make everything super-neat: no more trailers or whatever.

    This preposterous project waddled along for a while with the firm producing drawings and Richard presenting them at meetings, and one possible reason it had legs at all was that Fox meanwhile wanted to expand their physical operations into some I guess still-vacant land they owned in adjacent Century City. The neighbors were of course deeply unhappy about this, and I think Fox’s thinking was that if Richard could make it all really pretty, the neighbors might be more receptive.

    So one day Richard–and I, acting as his recording secretary basically–went to have lunch at the Fox Commissary with David Handelman, who was Fox’s head counsel and a surprisingly nice man, to discuss the whole Century City aspect of the thing. On our way to the table, up pops Mel Brooks to shake Richard’s hand. “I was just at a house you did on Fire Island maybe ten days ago! It was GREAT!!” Etc. etc.

    The pleasantries go on for a minute, with Brooks also greeting Handelman, and finally we turn to go to our table as Mel Brooks is sitting down. But half a second later, Brooks realizes he’s ignored me and springs back up and holds his hand out to introduce himself to the straggling young flunky. “Hi! I’m Mel! I didn’t get your name!”

    I thought it was a really un-Hollywood move on his part, and an indication that he was actually a good guy. And I haven’t forgotten it.

  68. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:

    What an absolutely nasty comment by Krugman. He shows a picture of two very old and frail whites (goyim to him) and gloats at their possible death.
    These frail old people are slandered as “white supremacists driving golf carts”.
    In his resentful hateful mind all old gentiles in Florida are evil white supremacists driving gold carts.
    In a rational country this level of bigotry would get him dismissed from respectable publications.

    • Agree: Patrick in SC
    • Replies: @Anon
  69. slumber_j says:

    OT but maybe of interest: Harvard has suddenly backed down almost completely on its vendetta against single-sex social organizations, using the recent pro-gay Supreme Court decision as its rationale. My wife points out that Harvard President Bacow promulgated this new position on the penultimate day of Harvard’s fiscal year–perhaps to scare up a few (utterly pointless given the Brobdingnagian endowment) donations from heretofore disgruntled alumni before close of year.

    Full text below the fold:


    Dear Members of the Harvard Community,

    Like many of us, I was greatly heartened by the landmark Supreme Court decision holding that federal law bars employers from discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation or transgender status. This civil rights milestone secures vital protections for millions of individuals who have so long been vulnerable under the law.

    While marking a major advance for LGBTQ rights, the Court’s decision in Bostock v. Clayton County also has significant implications for Harvard College’s policy on unrecognized single-gender social organizations. That policy itself does not concern sexual orientation or transgender status. It was adopted for the purpose of counteracting overt discrimination on the basis of sex—specifically, the exclusion of Harvard College students from social organizations because of their gender.

    Last August, in a lawsuit brought by fraternities and sororities to challenge the policy, Judge Gorton of the United States District Court in Boston denied Harvard’s motion to dismiss the case. In essence, the court accepted the plaintiffs’ legal theory that the policy, although adopted to counteract discrimination based on sex, is itself an instance of discrimination based on sex. The court reasoned that the policy applies to men but not women who seek to join all-male social organizations and applies to women but not men who seek to join all-female social organizations, and that this constitutes sex discrimination under federal law. In reaching this view, Judge Gorton relied heavily on the reasoning in one of the appellate decisions (Zarda v. Altitude Express ) that was affirmed by the Supreme Court. It now seems clear that Judge Gorton would ultimately grant judgment in the plaintiffs’ favor in the pending lawsuit and that Harvard would be legally barred from further enforcing the policy.

    In view of the Supreme Court’s decision, following Judge Gorton’s prior opinion in the lawsuit against Harvard, the Corporation consulted with the Dean of the Faculty of Arts and Sciences, the Dean of Harvard College, and the University’s General Counsel last week. We together came to the view that, in the circumstances, the College will not be able to carry forward with the existing policy under the prevailing interpretation of federal law. As a result, following a vote of the Corporation on Friday to rescind its prior approval, the policy will no longer be enforced.

    Let me emphasize, however, that while we will not be replacing the policy, the guiding purpose behind the policy remains as important as ever. The policy was adopted to advance the essential and unfinished work of making Harvard a more inclusive and welcoming environment for all our students—of creating a community in which students are not denied the opportunity to participate in aspects of undergraduate life simply because of their gender. Harvard is fairer and better when a student’s gender does not stand as a barrier to social opportunities while in college or inhibit students’ access to alumni networks that can help enable opportunities later in life.

    We applaud the many previously single-gender social organizations that have changed their membership policies to become more inclusive since the College first announced its policy in 2016. And, especially at a time of intense nationwide scrutiny directed at structures and systems that have reinforced privilege and inequity throughout society, we urge the remaining unrecognized single-gender social organizations to take this occasion to reflect further on their own membership policies. This is a moment when many organizations are questioning and rethinking longstanding practices that have contributed to exclusion and unequal opportunity. I hope that both the students who lead the remaining single-gender social organizations and the graduates who govern them will see fit to join in that effort, in the spirit of inclusion that our students deserve and our times demand.


    Lawrence S. Bacow
    Harvard University

  70. @slumber_j

    That’s a very interesting story. I have to say , Brooks always struck as the kind of guy who is a miserable bastard in real life, so I’m glad to see I was wrong.

  71. @kaganovitch

    A nice story, and there’s no reason not to suppose Mel Brooks is a decent guy.

    But in addition to it being a courteous gesture, it’s just good business sense. Odds are, the person sitting next to the famous architect and the studio chief at lunch on the studio lot is going to be worth knowing. Whoever they are, they’re definitely not the busboy. And besides, always be nice to the assistant: by next year, he may be the one deciding the fate of your latest project. Even if you’re Mel Brooks, somebody is in charge of your budget.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  72. slumber_j says:

    Thanks. Who knows: maybe he is? And maybe he was just covering his bases “in this town.” But look, I obviously worked for an architect, so where does being nice to me get him?

    I read it as very genuine at the time. And his long–albeit, it must be said, second–marriage speaks well of him. I think that interaction was legit.

    • Agree: Hhsiii
  73. @EmailAsID

    At least his son will be able to see the results of all their hard Leftist labor: watching blacks and Mexicans storm the beaches of Malibu and ridding it of its hideous whiteness.

    It’ll never happen. The super-rich are very good at insulating themselves.

    The fate you describe is what’s in store for the rest of us.

  74. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Last of the Gone With The Wind stars, and not a moment too soon, I hear! Congratulations to Miss DeH.

  75. @Jack Armstrong

    He was SOOOO old I believe he WAS a slave! (He was a jew…get it?)

    Speaking of jews,do they have some special long life gene? Look at Kirk Douglas. Guy just would not die. At least,some seem to have this Methuselah thang.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @jsm
  76. @EmailAsID

    But Malibu will always be Pole-frei – “Stay out of Malibu, Lebowski!”

  77. Anon[750] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Bravo! Mr Sailer, who I don’t always agree with, is a smart man, a responsible family man, has a great sense of humor, and is one fine journalist. Why oh why does he get star-struck with actors? Is it he longs for access? He thinks millionaires will make him rich? Curious about the opulent lifestyle?

    I’d much rather have him as a dinner guest —yes, even with very wealthy friends— than have this Reiner guy, or Tom Hanks or really any Hollywood type. I’ve told the same to some wealthy friends who push their kids into Hollywood. Yuck.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Single malt
  78. @Anon

    I love the Old Testament level of bloodlust. “The plague is coming for the white supremacists I tell ya.” I guess it’s going to, ahem, “pass over” non-whites and Goodthinking whites?

  79. @slumber_j

    Any truth to the rumor that the bodies of numerous Filipina girls are buried somewhere on the Getty property?

    Slightly over three decades ago, there was a meeting on a yacht in the Med. A very important meeting. Things were dire and the whole escapade was crumbling and was going to leave some very important people with some very public egg on their face.

    Attending the meeting were several world leaders, two of the richest people in the world, and several others, all of whom who were being catered to by a group of teens from the country of one of the world leaders.

    The focus of their discussion was half a world away. To see what they were discussing, we need to take a step back.

    In the late 1960’s and early 1970’s, G (J. Paul Getty Sr.) was one of the wealthiest men in the world. Although he could have any one in the world to have sex with, G enjoyed the company of young girls. Very very young girls. Under 10 was his preferred.

    He imported the girls from a foreign country and housed them in the annex of his home which he reached via an underground tunnel. The girls were supplied by a very close friend of his who we will call M (Ferdinand Marcos). It turns out M also had a love of young girls and provided them to other people like G all over the world.

    In return, M was protected in power and also enriched himself personally from these men who gave him gifts of not only cash, but also paintings by the masters and so much more. They also arranged for other governments to prop his up in the face of rebellion.

    When G died, things started to go downhill. Although one of his children (J) (J. Paul Getty Jr.) also was a fan of the young girls and availed himself frequently, he also ended up taking things too far and some of the girls ended up dead. J also had some big drug issues and was not of the same caliber connection wise that G had been. J was also under a great deal of pressure from siblings and bankers to do something with the annex to the house. The same annex where the young girls were located.

    Fast forward a few years. The same men in power like G that had helped prop up M were all dying off. They were being replaced by other men who had their focus on other areas of the world. All too often they didn’t care about young girls and had other vices that they could fulfill from other dictators. The problem was what to do about all the girls all over the world that were in place or dead? That was the purpose of the meeting on the yacht.

    What was decided was everyone who had a girl in their possession could keep them in place but could never let them go. If they wanted them killed, they could send them to J and he would make arrangements to kill them. In total, about 50 of these girls were killed. They were dumped beneath the foundation of an addition to the annex which was built several miles from the original annex.

    If you ever want to know why a hit was never put out on the spouse of M (Imelda) or any of his own kids it is because that meeting on the yacht was recorded both via audio and video and M made sure that everyone knows she has a copy of them. She also made it known that if she, or her kids were to die, that the recordings would be released. M’s spouse is very old so people are worried that she has not made any plans to not release it when she dies. Apparently this recording discusses many world leaders and titans of industry who all had their own young boys or girls from this country they abused.

    Oh, and just so you know, this will be revealed. This is too important to not be revealed.

    G: J. Paul Getty
    M: Ferdinand Marcos (President of the Philippines) (art collection)
    Spouse: Imelda Marcos
    J: John Paul Getty Jr.
    “Getty Center”/”Getty Center Monorail”

    • Replies: @slumber_j
  80. I’ve always wondered what the hell happened to Bruce Willis’ nose. It looks like the end was literally lopped off.

  81. hhsiii says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Soon there is World War III, and everybody is blaming YOU…

    One of my favorite movie lines.

  82. @J. Farmer

    Danny Thomas turned MTM down as his daughter, but suggested her to Sheldon Leonard & Reiner for Dick Van Dyke. He said she lost the part by a nose, as in, “No daughter of mine could have a nose that small.”

    Reminiscing about that era of TV comedy gives me a real pain the heart, as I suspect it does other people here. The Golden Age of TV comedy – and Westerns. It went by in a flash, as Quentin Tarantino pointed out.

  83. hhsiii says:

    “This is never gonna heal…”

  84. Art Deco says:

    LBJ is not underrated. Liberal historians struggle to locate the good side. His administration was a misbegotten disaster. Nixon wasn’t under-rated. He was given failing marks for the wrong reason. He had some interesting policy initiatives, but no skills as an executive.

    I doubt if you did a survey of texts you’d discover academic historians went overboard on Kennedy. He gets astronomical retrospective ratings from ordinary people. Pretty depressing.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Clyde
    , @Neoconned
  85. iQrealist says:

    How about a blog post about this Steve?

    A new book by Dr. Thomas Sowell at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University (Charter Schools and Their Enemies, Basic Books) provides multiple databased perspectives on charter school performance. In Charter Schools and Their Enemies, Professor Sowell describes outcomes from precisely these kind of “natural” experiments. The results are both compelling and credible.

    As one representative example selected from many in the book, the 2017-2018 results from “Uncommon Schools Charter Schools” in Brooklyn, New York, are illuminating. These charter school students are housed in the same buildings at the same grade levels as the regular school students. Further, Dr. Sowell reported that “more than 90 percent of the students in both kinds of schools were either black or Hispanic,” and that a majority in both groups were classified as economically disadvantaged.[5]

    The outcome is a bit stunning. In the Uncommon Schools Charter Schools condition, a majority of students received “proficient” or above scores in English for 15 of the 22 grade levels and “proficient” or above in 13 of the 18 grades in Mathematics. The results for traditional school condition—students in the same buildings and from similar demographic backgrounds—indicated that none of the 25 grades scored proficient in English, and in none of the grades did the majority of students score proficient or higher in Math. Dr. Sowell faithfully reported that in one school building, the regular education students did outperform the Uncommon Schools Charter Schools students in fifth grade for both Math and English. But, with that one exception, the charter school students clearly performer far better than those in regular classrooms, even when key confounds were taken into consideration.

    The results from Uncommon Schools Charter Schools are not a lone exception or a cherry-picked “outlier.” Indeed, the book Charter Schools and Their Enemies provides many examples of similar results—some less dramatic—but all compelling nonetheless. Taken together, these data systematically indicate that students in charter schools have better outcomes as compared to highly similar students in regular schools. This appears to be true even when multiple confounding factors are taken into account to the greatest extent possible, short of conducting controlled experiments wherein attendance at a regular or charter school is mandated by random assignment.

    The policy debates over how Charter schools are funded and administered will no doubt rage on unabated, and there are strongly held ideological arguments on both sides. But regardless of one’s philosophical stance for—or against—charter schools, these analyses and debates should be informed by and predicated upon the copious and credible data presented in Charter Schools and Their Enemies.

    • Replies: @education realist
  86. Mr. Grey says:

    He popped up in all kinds of things.

  87. Clyde says:

    When you live to 98 you must be doing something right. He probably watched Three Stooges shorts whenever he was blue.
    His only mistake was his son Meathead.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
  88. Clyde says:
    @Art Deco

    So who was good? Reagan and Trump in my book. Before that Eisenhower and Truman. JFK was a waste of time. LBJ was a crazy and confused, master manipulator, zealot and died as such.

  89. Clyde says:
    @Jane Plain

    He and Danny Thomas were old buddies and co-producers. Arabs and Jews can get along very well.

    Danny Thomas a Christian Arab. He even looked somewhat Jewish but he did great in Hollywood partly because the Jewish deciders there liked his Holy Land origins. Over the last 140 years we have had a million+ Christian Arabs immigrating here. Mostly from the area of Syria/Iraq/Lebanon which were not even distinct nations when many Christian Arabs came here before 1920.

    “His parents were Maronite Lebanese Christian immigrants from Lebanon.[4] Kairouz and Taouk are two prominent families from Deir-el-Ahmar and Bcherri. “

  90. Hhsiii says:

    Mel of course killed it with the commissary musical number in Blazing Saddles.

  91. sayless says:
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    It always sounds so prissy when people say something is “unacceptable.”

    • Replies: @anon
  92. Carl Reiner died? I didn’t even know he’d been sick.

    • LOL: hhsiii
  93. The youthful, freedom-loving anti-maskers would have had him die at 97. Along with all old people. Just as long as they can flounce around with their faces all free from cloth. Because it’s a constitutional issue you know.

    What a bunch of sissies. The Japanese, meanwhile, are not sissies. They wear their masks–because real men wear masks–and have 2% per capita of the virus deaths the US does.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  94. Neoconned says:
    @Art Deco

    Every time I hear JFK’s name mentioned anywhere it’s with this weird sanctimonious awe….when in reality he was a Democrat Gerald Ford who just happened to get blown away by a commie wannabe wacko set up by some CIA goons who wanted him removed “because Cuba”

    Or whatever….

  95. @Days of Broken Arrows

    When he was 88, Mel Brooks did a one man show on HBO that was pretty funny. Carl Reiner was in the front row and asked a question at one point.

    I liked this bit where Mel interrupts his WWII story to say, “I can’t teach you combat engineering tonight – you’ll have to see me privately for that.”

    The comedy in his movies is broad and silly, but it can be very funny if you’re young and drunk.

    • Thanks: Hhsiii
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  96. @Giancarlo M. Kumquat

    The Jewish lady across the street from me recently died at 101.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @PiltdownMan
  97. northeast says:

    Carl prayed that he lived until 2020 to vote against Trump…

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
  98. @Neoconned

    I’m no fan of JFK at all but he did stand up to Kruschev ie stared down the barrel into possible global thermonuclear war. He won by empathizing with the enemy and finding a way for the Russkies to save face even though they were defeated. He tried to stop commies in Cuba and Vietnam. He lit a fire under NASA and challenged USA’s STEM to get to the moon.
    He was also kind of a war hero. Calvin Coolidge (the Great napper), Millard Fillmore, and Benjamin Harrison now THOSE were milquetoast lame POTUSes.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  99. Anonymous[166] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Living in NYC I’ve long noticed my Irish and some Italian relatives dying in their 60s and 70s and already exhibiting cognitive decline.

    But my Jewish friends still had their grandparents live until in their 90s and still talking current events.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
  100. @Anon

    It’s an L.A. thing; you wouldn’t understand.

  101. jsm says:
    @Giancarlo M. Kumquat

    When you sell your soul to Ol’ Scratch for wealth and fame and long life, he pays up.

  102. Hhsiii says:

    Even meathead had Princess Bride, Stand By Me, Spinal Tap…

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  103. anon[255] • Disclaimer says:

    It always sounds so prissy when people say something is “unacceptable.”

    Is it unacceptable to be prissy?

    • Replies: @sayless
  104. anon[255] • Disclaimer says:

    Carl prayed that he lived until 2020 to vote against Trump…

    No worries, he can still do that.

    • Agree: northeast
  105. @iQrealist

    Oh, please. Of course they are cherrypicked. Sowell has believed for years that there’s no achievement gap, that it’s all culture and bad teaching. I’ve never been a fan, but on this point he’s definitely clueless.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  106. danand says:

    “He seems to have been physically and mentally healthy up to the end.“

    Mr. Reiner’s reminiscing about a week back in a “Dispatches from Quarantine” YouTube episode. About as cognizant as it gets for someone 98:

    (You’ll get ~98% of it viewing @ 1.5x speed; worth the trade off, in my opinion.)

  107. slumber_j says:
    @Stan Adams

    No idea: the Getty Center property was bought and developed long after JPG’s death. That would have been the old Getty, which is now the Getty Villa Museum in Malibu.

  108. J.Ross says:

    I agree with masking but this is completely ridiculous. Clearly the Japanese did better because they aren’t having a cold civil war with a self-restriction against border restrictions. Masks aren’t magic (in fact, in this case, they’re not medicine) and quarantines work.
    Just now on NPR: due to WuFlu, all detained “refugees” must be immediately released.

  109. @Jack Armstrong

    And The Adventures of Robin Hood, and They Died With Their Boots On, which makes General Custer out to be a hero vs. the Sioux.

    It’s not looking too good for her, is it?

    Happy Birthday, Miss. DeHavilland, and some more to come. 104 yrs young, born on this very day.

    • Replies: @anon
  110. Jack D says:

    You are sorely mistaken. Brooks and Reiner both lost their wives some years ago and in recent years they had dinner together almost every night.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    , @ScarletNumber
  111. @kaganovitch

    I met him once at a lunch with a mutual friend. He was with Billy Crystal, who was merely tolerant. Brooks was acting like he does in the movies and was friendly.

  112. Deepysix says:
    @Jim Christian

    Malibu now has homeless in RVs and vans etc. in primo oceanfront spots along the PCH.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  113. @Deepysix

    I could see getting an RV, declaring yourself homeless and therefore above the law, and spending the summer parked on the beach in Malibu. On the other hand, I suspect Malibu’s city attorney and police chief game planned that all out decades ago, so don’t even imagine you could win at that.

  114. anon[255] • Disclaimer says:

    And The Adventures of Robin Hood,

    Timeless story?

  115. @Steve Sailer

    Henry Kissinger is 97 and Jewish, and is reportedly in sound mental and physical health, though his growly voice is so deep now, you need a sub-woofer to hear it when it’s been recorded.

    On the other hand, George Shultz, who was Nixon’s Treasury and Labor Secretary and Reagan’s Secretary of State, and is not Jewish, will be 100 in December, and is still active on numerous boards and advisory councils.

    Maybe those “Ashkenazic” longevity genes are actually German or Central European.

  116. Deepysix says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Have you been to Malibu recently?

    Two months ago there were hundreds of RV and van people, from the Palisades to Point Dume, “declaring themselves homeless and therefore above the law” planning to “spend the summer parked on the beach in Malibu.”

    Perhaps something has been done about it since. Seems unlikely though.

  117. Imagine how long he might have lived, if not for racism, anti-Semitism, and the blacklist!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  118. BenKenobi says:
    @Jack D

    Holy fudge, did any of you big-brained negroes actually watch the 94 second clip?! I know that’s a huuuuge chunk out of your day, but still, bear with me. The punchline occurs in the last 3 seconds. Feel free to click-forward in between your million-dollar crypto transactions.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  119. @Hhsiii

    His best film was A Few Good Men.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
  120. @Jack D

    BenKenobi was kidding. He was making a Simpsons reference.

    • Thanks: BenKenobi
  121. @education realist

    Yeah, he’s a total culturist.

  122. @anonymous

    I can’t get the sound to work.

  123. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Nicholas Stix

    Imagine how long he might have lived, if not for racism, anti-Semitism, and the blacklist!

    Perhaps his longevity could be attributable to daily knee-bends..

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  124. @Steve Sailer

    Steve, has not Rob Reiner been instrumental in preventing any new building or poaching Malibu’s large open spaces? From there, I would have thought Malibu P.D. would have a free hand in removing vagrants. Malibu police are known for their brutality, err, vigor in their methods. Have they been softened up? Has Reiner softened up?

    • Replies: @Deepysix
  125. @slumber_j

    Steve, has not Rob Reiner been instrumental in preventing any new building or poaching Malibu’s large open spaces? From there, I would have thought Malibu P.D. would have a free hand in removing vagrants. Malibu police are known for their brutality, err, vigor in their methods. Have they been softened up? Has Reiner softened up?

  126. @slumber_j

    Cool story, Slumber, but why then did Larry David make Brooks out to be such an asshole in late episodes of Curb Your Enthusiasm, where they made up a production of the Producers, starring Larry?

  127. @anonymous

    I despise the Reiners but that was the funniest clip of all and the first one on my mind when you posted that YouTube. Perfect. Classic. And they were about at the end of the era where comedy was still funny without being vulgar. Cheers.

  128. Dan Smith says:

    I responded to a TDS tweet he allegedly wrote the day before he died. I asked if he’d remembered to take his medication. Pete Townsend was right.

  129. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “Be nice to people on your way up because you will meet them on your way down.”

    ― Wilson Mizner

  130. @Dave Pinsen

    I used his “Excuse me while I whip this out” line just last week.

  131. @Franz Liszt von Raiding

    You do realize that the Soviets won that little drama don’t you?

    The missiles that the US installed in Turkey were removed.

    Have you been listening to National Pubic Radio again?

  132. Harold says:

    Don’t know why that didn’t embed…

    the beginning of the story

    I have a Carl Reiner story that I hold very dear to me. I figured I’d share it today, on the day of his passing, because I hope it will bring some other people some joy the way it does me.

    Growing up my dad and his twin brother fell in love with Sid Caeser’s Your Show Of Shows. It is the show that made my dad fall in love with storytelling and comedy. They worshipped Caeser along with castmember/writer Carl Reiner.

    Caeser, Reiner, and the other writers on their show, including Mel Brooks, Neil Simon, Larry Gelbart, and Woody Allen, all made my dad and uncle want to be writers, which they both ended up being.

    Growing up my dad’s choice of dinner on every birthday was Beef Stroganoff. Why did he eat Beef Stroganoff on every birthday for his whole life? Because of a joke on Your Show of Shows.

    When Charlton Heston was a guest on the show they did a cold war spy sketch where Reiner was told to go to a restaurant and “ask for Beef Stroganoff.” He sits down and the waitress comes over. Reiner says “I’m here for Beef Stroganoff.”

    She leaves and a short while later Heston walks over to the table and asks Reiner “can I help you?” Reiner responds “I asked for Beef Stroganoff,” and Heston pauses and then in his deep voice deadpans “I am Beef Stroganoff.”

    See the link for the rest.

  133. Anon[369] • Disclaimer says:

    One anon to another: is it possible Krugman is signaling about jews? A huge, huge percentage of retirees in Florida are jews. Of all the states to pick, he picked Florida retirees to label “white supremacist”?

  134. @Anonymous

    Thanks. I hadn’t known that.

  135. Muggles says:
    @Steve Sailer

    >>I could see getting an RV, declaring yourself homeless<<

    In that great James Garner PI series The Rockford Files, the main character Rockford lived in a somewhat small trailer right on the beach conveniently near a bar/restaurant, with a telephone booth (in the 70s of course).

    He was an ex con in the show and I am still unclear as to how he was able to manage that. Though the series is based upon a book, so maybe that is explained there. Rockford never had any neighbors other than at least once, a traveling tourist in his own trailer.

    Many years back when I drove by Malibu I looked for that restaurant to see if trailers were next to it. Didn't see it or any trailers. This years later from the series, which was shot on location at the beach at times. I'm sure thanks to our new Deity the Internet someone can explain all of this.

    But at least in Hollywood fanciful history, a down-at-the-heels ex-con PI could live on the beach in a ratty trailer. So what is Old Fiction is New Reality.

    • Replies: @Deepysix
    , @Ray P
  136. Deepysix says:

    Malibu still has Trailer Parks along the ocean. One is next to Barbara Streisand’s infamous lair.

  137. Deepysix says:
    @Jim Christian

    Vagrants of the shopping cart-pushing variety are rare in Malibu. RV and car campers are increasing and, at least for now, seem to enjoy impunity.

  138. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Reiner’s body outlasted his judgement.

  139. Ray P says:

    According to the Internet Movie Database trivia section on the Rockford Files:

    During the first season, Rockford’s trailer moved twice (if the pilot movie location is included), from a parking lot located at 2354 Ocean Boulevard, Los Angeles, California in the pilot, (in Rockford’s Yellow Pages ad), then it moved to just off Pacific Coast Highway (PCH) in Malibu, California. After the first session [season?] the trailer moved to another Malibu location, known as Paradise Cove, and remained there for the t.v. series’ duration. The second location’s address was 22968 Pacific Coast Highway, Malibu, California, and the final location had an ‘approximate’ address of 28128 Pacific Coast Highway, Malibu, California, but was given the (fictional)) address of 29 Cove Road, Malibu, California.

    Do any of these addresses ring a bell?

    • Replies: @Muggles
  140. Muggles says:
    @Ray P


    No, I don’t live in LA or nearby. I could do some online map research though to see what’s nearby.

    Maybe you know, are any of the locations still open for trailer placement?

    I think it was part of the clever appeal (and intentional irony) that the hapless Rockford who could barely pay rent on his trailer space would have such a primo location. Maybe a Hollywood inside joke.

    I was a big fan of the show and it always made me think that the LA area must be a pretty mellow place to be. Despite all of the problems Rockford had. Also, the only TV show I’m aware of where the main character was depicted living in a single wide trailer. Quite a few scenes were shot inside and out. That’s a rare realism. And Rockford was always happy to be living there. Who wouldn’t?

  141. Hhsiii says:

    I almost included that. That had already been a broadway hit so he didn’t have to do much to it. But Nicholson killed it.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  142. @Hhsiii

    It helped that he had star power in the movie. The play had three nobodies in the lead roles. Joanne was played by a woman I have never heard of before, while Colonel Jessup was played by Stephen Lang, who went on to play a Colonel in Avatar. Kaffee was NOT played by Matthew Broderick or Jonathan Silverman, but rather by

    Pinto from Animal House.

  143. sayless says:

    Unacceptable to be prissy–

    “Prissy” is a pejorative, sometimes used to describe simple self-restraint and good manners by people who are put off by those, for whatever reason.

    When “unacceptable” is used globally to denote behavior, as in it’s unacceptable to give your four-year-old a bloody nose, then it’s tamping down a proportionate reaction. It’s also unacceptable to put lemon and milk in a cup of tea.

    The ceiling is too low. It’s overused.

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