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The media’s go-to guy for moral advice on how to reorganize the world, economist Bryan Caplan, explains:

The Ultimate Incivility
Bryan Caplan

… My two central maxims:

First, remain calm when someone questions people’s ideas or behavior. After all, maybe their ideas are false, and maybe their behavior is wrong.

Second, take offense when someone questions people’s presence or existence. When you complain about a person’s being around irrespective of their behavior, you go too far. … That is not cool.

The same goes, of course, for mainstream conversations about immigration. Sure, people enumerate specific complaints about foreigners’ ideas and behavior. But the goal is not to change foreigners’ minds or reform their behavior – hence near-universal apathy for keyhole solutions. The goal, rather, is to rationalize deportation and exclusion of foreigners, regardless of how they comport themselves.

An old adage urges us to “Hate the sin but love the sinner.” My standards of civility are much less demanding but follow the same format. Getting rid of bad ideas and bad behavior is a worthy goal. Trying to get rid of people themselves, however, is the ultimate incivility.

For example, the “ultimate incivility” would be for anyone to be so morally obscene as to to question Ebola Guy “being around” in America. Do you realize that there are subhuman vermin suggesting that maybe the government shouldn’t have let Ebola Guy into the U.S. from Liberia to vomit all over Dallas?

Fortunately, the Obama Administration includes many officials sympathetic to Professor Caplan’s superior moral standards. Commenter Jon noticed a comment at Gateway Pundit on how the federal government is coming closer and closer to Caplan’s recommended way of doing things:

Duncan is a 40-something, single, unemployed Liberian living in Ghana who applied sometime in the last year for a visa to visit his sister in the United States. It was reportedly his first time visiting this country.

That is six strikes against his application:

Single

Unemployed

Liberian (5th highest overstay rate of any country in the world)

Living outside country of citizenship

First time traveler to the United States

Sister living in the United States.

Together, all these factors should have weighed very heavily against the issuance of a visitor’s visa to Duncan. He clearly appears unqualified.

Not to mention being from an Ebola zone and having Ebola …

 
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  1. Caplan’s argument about the motives of those who oppose open borders is a magnificent strawman.

    The argument that I’ve been reading among opponents of open borders is quite simply self-interest, that is, mass illegal immigration drives down the wages and economic fortunes of citizens.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Shouting Thomas

    In Comment #1, Shouting Thomas says, "The argument that I’ve been reading among opponents of open borders is quite simply self-interest, that is, mass illegal immigration drives down the wages and economic fortunes of citizens."

    The argument that I haven't heard from supporters of open-season on boarding the US is self-interest, in that mass immigration drives down the wages and economic fortunes of two classes of fellow citizens. The despised flyover country middle class, and the working poor of all ethnies. No wonder the elites prefer to broadcast Caplan's frame.

  2. Let’s not confuse Ebola Guy with Enola Gay, now. Some people with think we’re fighting World War II, again, and call this a “War on Ebola Gays, or something like that.

  3. Ebola, Like Aids is a disease with rights of its own. How dare we discriminate!

    By harboring large colonies of Africans in our country we place ourselves at greater risk. Washington DC is full of them. What happens when Ebola becomes a real danger to our chattering class within the beltway?

    Our dysfunctional world view is running so counter to our self interest that at some point, a collapse / emergency is inevitable. At some point the usual dysfunctional response by our government and institutions will push the majority population over the edge.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Thomas O. Meehan

    "What happens when Ebola becomes a real danger to our chattering class within the beltway?"

    Remember what happened when anthrax became a real danger inside the Beltway?

    We invaded Iraq.

    Replies: @TWS

  4. That is not cool.

    Strong words – is that a quote from the constitution? Or the Bible or something?

  5. @Thomas O. Meehan
    Ebola, Like Aids is a disease with rights of its own. How dare we discriminate!

    By harboring large colonies of Africans in our country we place ourselves at greater risk. Washington DC is full of them. What happens when Ebola becomes a real danger to our chattering class within the beltway?

    Our dysfunctional world view is running so counter to our self interest that at some point, a collapse / emergency is inevitable. At some point the usual dysfunctional response by our government and institutions will push the majority population over the edge.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    “What happens when Ebola becomes a real danger to our chattering class within the beltway?”

    Remember what happened when anthrax became a real danger inside the Beltway?

    We invaded Iraq.

    • Replies: @TWS
    @Steve Sailer

    So we're going to invade a random country starting with the letter 'I' that might have something to do with Africa or Ebola in some way?

    Say, Ireland? They have those 'Black Irish' and whatnot. Black and Tans, Black Monday, all that stuff has to have something to do with Africa.

  6. “What happens when Ebola becomes a real danger to our chattering class within the beltway?”

    Remember what happened when anthrax became a real danger inside the Beltway

    I’m still wondering about that guy who invited himself into the White House, with its apparently open borders and all.

    Is he going to get amnesty and be welcome to live there?

    And if not, why not?

  7. But the goal is not to change foreigners’ minds or reform their behavior … The goal, rather, is to rationalize deportation and exclusion of foreigners, regardless of how they comport themselves.

    We want to exclude Somali, Chechans, and Liberians from the USA, but not “regardless of how they comport themselves” but because we know exactly how they will behave themselves. We have ample evidence, because we know what Somalia, Liberia, and Chechnia are like, and we know how their immigrants behave in civilized countries.

    People who aren’t aspie libertarians realize that foreigners behave in the USA similar to how they behave in their own country.

    But the goal is not to change foreigners’ minds or reform their behavior

    Changing foreigners’ minds and reforming their behavior ranges from extremely expensive to impossible. So no, that isn’t our goal.

    • Replies: @gu
    @Lot

    "but because we know exactly how they will behave themselves."

    No you really don't. You know that literally only 2 Chechens did anything of that kind, right?

  8. Caplan is a good illustration of how libertarians may be more dangerous than ethnic activists in destroying America as we know it.

    The activists work by intimidation and protests, which they are generally incompetent at, and their goals are limiting to opening the boarders to their countrymen. Cuban Americans don’t want open boarders, just open boarders for Cubans. Once they got that, they became Republican voters.

    Caplan, however, doesn’t just want more Mexicans. And, you know, Mexicans aren’t so bad, they’ve built one of the better countries in the world, and with open boarders we’d probably only get another 25 million of them. I don’t agree with La Raza, but it could be worse.

    Caplan’s preference, in practice, means 500 million Indians, 500 million Africans, and 100 million Pakistanis and Yemenis moving to the USA. (Probably most Mexican immigrants would head back to Mexico at that point.)

    And unlike the ethnic activists, he knows how to speak the language of the people who hold power in Washington: the very rich.

    • Replies: @CJ
    @Lot

    Boarders are people who rent lodging and food.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Lot

    , @Lurker
    @Lot


    Caplan is a good illustration of how libertarians may be more dangerous than ethnic activists in destroying America as we know it.
     
    Who's to say Caplan isn't an ethnic activist?

    Replies: @Art Deco

  9. Blame the fart and not the farter, says Caplan.

  10. @Lot
    Caplan is a good illustration of how libertarians may be more dangerous than ethnic activists in destroying America as we know it.

    The activists work by intimidation and protests, which they are generally incompetent at, and their goals are limiting to opening the boarders to their countrymen. Cuban Americans don't want open boarders, just open boarders for Cubans. Once they got that, they became Republican voters.

    Caplan, however, doesn't just want more Mexicans. And, you know, Mexicans aren't so bad, they've built one of the better countries in the world, and with open boarders we'd probably only get another 25 million of them. I don't agree with La Raza, but it could be worse.

    Caplan's preference, in practice, means 500 million Indians, 500 million Africans, and 100 million Pakistanis and Yemenis moving to the USA. (Probably most Mexican immigrants would head back to Mexico at that point.)

    And unlike the ethnic activists, he knows how to speak the language of the people who hold power in Washington: the very rich.

    Replies: @CJ, @Lurker

    Boarders are people who rent lodging and food.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @CJ

    Or pirates who swarm aboard a ship.

    Replies: @workforlivn, @Father O'Hara

    , @Lot
    @CJ

    Jeez I did it three times! Where is the MS Word Paperclip with the green underlining when you need him? All aboard!

  11. Lot — Open borders for unwanted boarders.

  12. @CJ
    @Lot

    Boarders are people who rent lodging and food.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Lot

    Or pirates who swarm aboard a ship.

    • Replies: @workforlivn
    @Steve Sailer

    ...or Mexicans that nail up siding.

    , @Father O'Hara
    @Steve Sailer

    Do the pirates have puffy shirts?

  13. Looks like that comment at Gateway Pundit was taken from Jessica Vaughan’s post at CIS: http://www.cis.org/vaughan/dallas-ebola-patient-was-another-visa-mistake

  14. Good Lord. What moral universe does Caplan live in? Apparently, in his mind, zoning restrictions are an echo of the Holocaust.

    To me, questioning someone’s right to “be around” means questioning their literal right to exist. That is quite different from questioning their right to “be around” a particular place at a particular time.

    Does Caplan live in a building?

    Does that building have a door?

    Does that door have a lock?

    Does Caplan occasionally use that door and that lock to prevent other people from “being around” certain defined areas unless they meet certain conditions?

    Does Bryan Caplan have a commode installed out in the open in the middle of his living room so that he is not forced to leave a delightful conversation with guests in order to answer nature’s call? Why not? Does he have a problem with his guests “being around” while he performs necessary bodily functions? How rude!

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    @Mr. Blank


    Good Lord. What moral universe does Caplan live in? Apparently, in his mind, zoning restrictions are an echo of the Holocaust.
     
    Has Mr. Kaplan commented on the Israeli housing committees which the Israel Supreme Court just ratified? In Israel you can establish committees to prevent "incompatible" people from moving to your town. I believe this law can be suitably modified and adopted by US towns, cities and counties.

    Its worth noting that the Jewish amicus brief in Shelley v. Kramer argued against racial convenants on libertarian/property rights grounds. Racial covenants are bad, according to the Jewish brief, because because they prevent individuals from selling (or not selling) their property to whomever they choose.
  15. Widespread piracy would probally cut down on immigration for certain parts of the world. Maybe Australia should look into issuing some letters of marque for the ambitious out of work sea captain looking to ply his trade near Indonesia. Better yet maybe Italy can try to locate a remaining descendent of the last bey and get the Barbary Pirates up and running again in Tripoli. The marines might need to change their anthemn. They could just sub in whichever Who song has the line about meet the new boss same as the old boss.

  16. Licensed boarders fight open borders.

  17. You really, really have to hate a country and it’s people to advocate what Caplan does – which is importing death on two legs. Because it goes beyond the stupidity and PC/MC hydrophobia that is currently in vogue among the intelligentsia and those who spent too much time in college. Indeed Cappy may be suffering hydrophobia or perhaps dementia but that’s beside the point at the moment.

    The take home for most of us is that Caplan is a anti-American POS and should be treated with scorn and derision.The fact that the prestige media has given him a high seat to expound his rabid idiocy only goes to show the utter contempt that his bosses have for us as well.

    They don’t care if the U.S. takes in hundreds or even thousands of Ebola, Marburg or Dengue fever cases or something entirely new. We’re expendable.

    Now to a segue of sorts. Breitbart is running a piece on the head of the CDC(whose previous job was as a hack doctor working for Bloomberg and he has zero expertise with viruses), being interviewed by CNN’s Sanjay Gurpta, he’s trying to get the hard facts on Ebola from the CDC head, but all he’s getting is happy talk. He refuses to answer any question in a direct and honest manner.

    This is a great way to terrify people. Put on a credulous rube of a government official and show him babbling in times of crisis.

  18. In related news:

    French truckers threaten to blockade Calais in protest over steep fines imposed for failing to prevent migrants sneaking aboard their lorries destined for Britain
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2777029/French-truckers-threaten-blockade-Calais-protest-steep-fines-imposed-failing-prevent-migrants-sneaking-aboard-lorries-destined-Britain.html

  19. In related news:

    French truckers threaten to blockade Calais in protest over steep fines imposed for failing to prevent migrants sneaking aboard their lorries destined for Britain

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2777029/French-truckers-threaten-blockade-Calais-protest-steep-fines-imposed-failing-prevent-migrants-sneaking-aboard-lorries-destined-Britain.html

  20. @CJ
    @Lot

    Boarders are people who rent lodging and food.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Lot

    Jeez I did it three times! Where is the MS Word Paperclip with the green underlining when you need him? All aboard!

  21. @Dave Pinsen Thanks for sourcing that and introducing me to Jessica Vaughan. She’s a really deft writer, authoritative yet with an eye for irony. Definitely liked her post http://www.cis.org/vaughan/dispatch-almost-america as well.

  22. “That is not cool.”

    Strong words – is that a quote from the constitution? Or the Bible or something?

    Lebowski 3:16.

  23. “Caplan is a good illustration of how libertarians may be more dangerous than ethnic activists in destroying America as we know it.”

    You think Caplan isn’t an ethnic activist? [arches eyebrow]

    Not every ethnic activist is upfront about his motivations. Sometimes not even to themselves.

  24. That is not cool.

    Who died and made Caplan the king of cool?

  25. Priss Factor [AKA "pizza with hot pepper"] says:

    Bugs classic

  26. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Keep in mind Peter Hitchens’ confession that he and others supported mass immigration not because they loved the immigrants so much but because they despised Britain. That seems to be the principle at work in all of these discussions. Does anyone honestly think these advocates of homeland destruction have any real experience with Somalis or Afghans so that they’ve come to appreciate their virtues? No, they’re just tools to help destroy this country whilst at the same time the advocates pose as being holier-than-thou people.

  27. “And unlike the ethnic activists, he knows how to speak the language of the people who hold power in Washington: the very rich.”

    Nah your overestimating his influence.

  28. @Steve Sailer
    @CJ

    Or pirates who swarm aboard a ship.

    Replies: @workforlivn, @Father O'Hara

    …or Mexicans that nail up siding.

  29. During his major press conference a day or two ago Tom Frieden, the head of the CDC, twice declined to answer direct questions about whether the ebola patient is an American citizen. It sounded like he thought it was unseemly to wonder whether the person who brought Ebola to our shores had a right to travel here.

    OPERATOR: Next question comes from Lauren Neergaard of AP. Your line is open.

    LAUREN NEERGARRD: Thank you. Do we know, can you even say if this is an American or is this a visitor? . . .

    TOM FRIEDEN: What I can say is that the individual was here to visit family who live in this country. Further details I think are to be identified in the coming days, relevant or not, we’ll see.

    ****

    OPERATOR: The next question comes from Denise Grady of The NewYork Times. Your line is open.

    DENISE GRADY: Thanks very much. I think that people have touched on this, but I would just like to ask any way just in case we can get any more clarity on it. Was this, can you tell us is this person an American or American citizen. . . ?

    TOM FRIEDEN: The patient was visit family members and staying with family members who live in this country.

    http://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2014/t0930-ebola-confirmed-case.html

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Harry Baldwin

    Maybe he just did not know the answer to the question.

    Replies: @David R. Merridale

  30. @Harry Baldwin
    During his major press conference a day or two ago Tom Frieden, the head of the CDC, twice declined to answer direct questions about whether the ebola patient is an American citizen. It sounded like he thought it was unseemly to wonder whether the person who brought Ebola to our shores had a right to travel here.

    OPERATOR: Next question comes from Lauren Neergaard of AP. Your line is open.

    LAUREN NEERGARRD: Thank you. Do we know, can you even say if this is an American or is this a visitor? . . .

    TOM FRIEDEN: What I can say is that the individual was here to visit family who live in this country. Further details I think are to be identified in the coming days, relevant or not, we’ll see.

    ****

    OPERATOR: The next question comes from Denise Grady of The NewYork Times. Your line is open.

    DENISE GRADY: Thanks very much. I think that people have touched on this, but I would just like to ask any way just in case we can get any more clarity on it. Was this, can you tell us is this person an American or American citizen. . . ?

    TOM FRIEDEN: The patient was visit family members and staying with family members who live in this country.

    http://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2014/t0930-ebola-confirmed-case.html

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Maybe he just did not know the answer to the question.

    • Replies: @David R. Merridale
    @Art Deco

    Maybe he just did not know the answer to the question.

    In that case, he could just have said so.

    It could be that Frieden is so thin-skinned and narcissistic that he can't admit to perfectly understandable ignorance, but most people will take his statement as a covert admission that the patient in question is a non-citizen, and that Frieden is shifty, pro-immigration ideologue.

  31. The funny part about Caplan’s shtick is that one of his supposed hobby horse issues is intellectual honesty. His big claim on that front is he does not try to “shame” people with whom he disagrees. Yet, he dresses up his open borders argument in moral language that is intended to shame people into agreeing with him. The bit Steve quoted is nothing but a reiteration of his moral philosophy intended to set him up as the arbiter of right and wrong.

  32. Again, Chesterton’s observation that the problem with a madman is not that he’s illogical, but that he is only logical.

  33. Obama stopped the US refusing entry to people because they had Hiv. How many got infected by immigrants because of that? Hundreds, thousands?

  34. @Steve Sailer
    @CJ

    Or pirates who swarm aboard a ship.

    Replies: @workforlivn, @Father O'Hara

    Do the pirates have puffy shirts?

  35. @Shouting Thomas
    Caplan's argument about the motives of those who oppose open borders is a magnificent strawman.

    The argument that I've been reading among opponents of open borders is quite simply self-interest, that is, mass illegal immigration drives down the wages and economic fortunes of citizens.

    Replies: @ic1000

    In Comment #1, Shouting Thomas says, “The argument that I’ve been reading among opponents of open borders is quite simply self-interest, that is, mass illegal immigration drives down the wages and economic fortunes of citizens.”

    The argument that I haven’t heard from supporters of open-season on boarding the US is self-interest, in that mass immigration drives down the wages and economic fortunes of two classes of fellow citizens. The despised flyover country middle class, and the working poor of all ethnies. No wonder the elites prefer to broadcast Caplan’s frame.

  36. Different but the same: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2761556/Why-allowed-UK-Prime-suspect-hunt-missing-Alice-wife-murderer-Latvia.html

    Yesterday police finally found the body of a fragile (she was anorexic) young girl who went missing a month ago in west London. It seems highly likely that she was murdered (and who knows what else) by a man who migrated here from Latvia in 2007. There is free movement between EU states, so he was able to come here without anyone having any power to stop or even question him.

    Which is unfortunate, because in 1997 he had stabbed and bludgeoned his own wife to death. It was pre-meditated, he showed no remorse, and he concealed the body – so it was about as bad as a murder gets. But once he’d served his sentence, he was free to come here and inflict the same fate on a more-or-less defenceless English schoolgirl going for an afternoon walk.

    And what’s more, he was arrested and questioned about a sexual assault on another young girl in 2009. He wasn’t charged, but even so, no alarm went off, nothing alerted police about his past. Nothing.

    Of course, it would be just gauche to suggest that having committed a heinous crime should in any way prevent you from being allowed to migrate to our country and pick off its young girls one by one. But nonetheless people are starting to ask some awkward questions. And we have a general election coming in a few months. And something is lurking on the horizon. It looks like UKIP.

  37. bomag [AKA "doombuggy"] says:

    Trying to get rid of people themselves, however, is the ultimate incivility.

    Time to embrace the utility of incivility.

    One wonders how far Caplan would go in getting rid of prisons, laws, and regulations. Probably as much as the usual Libertarian: not much.

    This, of course, is just another iteration of the left/liberal give-away mentality. In this case, giving away the whole country.

  38. Liberians are another example of bogus refugees. They, like the Cubans, the Mexicans, the Iranian Jews, and (doubtless soon) the “unaccompanied children” we have taken in, will be returning regularly to their (supposedly) evil homelands for visits with family and friends, and to tend their business interests, etc. They are not seeking “refuge” from oppression, crime and violence, they are just looking to make some more money and have white folks and white folks’ society take care of them–preferably for free.

    The reason that Liberia is suffering is that the ex-Negro slaves from America who colonized Liberia 150 years ago (aka “Americo-Liberians”) enslaved the Liberian natives and became the Liberian elite. The natives eventually kicked their butts.

    There are now tens of thousands of the Liberian elite living in America as “refugees” from the very hellhole they created. They have moved back home to America–to the Evil White Folks’ country–where the white folks can take care of them.

    Liberia has no doctors to help with Ebola because they ran off to America as “refugees” to make big bucks rather than staying back home in Liberia to take care of their own people. Now white America is sending thousands of white Americans to Liberia as soldiers, doctors, and nurses to take care of the Liberian elite’s kinfolk.

    Just to make it clear that the Liberian elite refugees won’t have to do anything for their own people, , President Obama announced a couple days ago that the Liberian elite refugees can stay here in America indefinitely.

    Such a deal! Not only do they get to move to America and live off the white folks, they get to send the white folks back to Liberia to sort out the problems they created!

    • Replies: @S. Verdad
    @Big Bill

    Not only that, but as TPS or deferred action recipients they are now eligible for, and will receive "advance parole" authorization, which allows them to travel home and return to the U.S., despite their prior unlawful status. As an added bonus, thanks to a ridiculous Board of Immigration Appeals decision called Arabally (which DHS could have but did not appeal to Circuit Court), advance parole now serves to erase any prior unlawful entries and unlawful presence, making formerly inadmissible aliens eligible for adjustment of status (green card). It's truly the gift that keeps on giving!

  39. @Mr. Blank
    Good Lord. What moral universe does Caplan live in? Apparently, in his mind, zoning restrictions are an echo of the Holocaust.

    To me, questioning someone's right to "be around" means questioning their literal right to exist. That is quite different from questioning their right to "be around" a particular place at a particular time.

    Does Caplan live in a building?

    Does that building have a door?

    Does that door have a lock?

    Does Caplan occasionally use that door and that lock to prevent other people from "being around" certain defined areas unless they meet certain conditions?

    Does Bryan Caplan have a commode installed out in the open in the middle of his living room so that he is not forced to leave a delightful conversation with guests in order to answer nature's call? Why not? Does he have a problem with his guests "being around" while he performs necessary bodily functions? How rude!

    Replies: @Big Bill

    Good Lord. What moral universe does Caplan live in? Apparently, in his mind, zoning restrictions are an echo of the Holocaust.

    Has Mr. Kaplan commented on the Israeli housing committees which the Israel Supreme Court just ratified? In Israel you can establish committees to prevent “incompatible” people from moving to your town. I believe this law can be suitably modified and adopted by US towns, cities and counties.

    Its worth noting that the Jewish amicus brief in Shelley v. Kramer argued against racial convenants on libertarian/property rights grounds. Racial covenants are bad, according to the Jewish brief, because because they prevent individuals from selling (or not selling) their property to whomever they choose.

  40. DWB says: • Website

    The presence of this guy on American soil is evidence that the people making the rules are at best fools and at worst totally unconcerned about the welfare of the citizenry.

    If you read the Q and A from Dr Frieden’s press conference, a real howler appears:

    “Dr. Frieden concluded his remarks by saying “health authorities (are) taking every step possible to ensure the virus did not spread widely.””

    This is absolutely false. The most basic step in stopping an epidemic is identifying the source, quickly followed by action to contain it. We KNOW where the virus is and how it spreads. Yet, not only do we not take the most basic. obvious step of refusing entry to people from infected areas, President Obama has actually ordered soldiers to go to the affected areas.

    This is dereliction of duty.

    The Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Subcomittee for African Affairs, Chris Coons (D-DE) stated:

    “It was only a matter of time before an Ebola case would emerge here in the United States, but as we’re seeing in Dallas today, our public health system has the resources, capabilities, and knowledge to address and contain this virus quickly and safely.”

    The idea that it is ‘only a matter of time’ before a case emerged in the US is risible. It was completely avoidable.

    I am not panicking and I do not think Ebola is going to be the Zombie Apocalypse. But there is a real risk of people in the US getting sick, and when they do, they will die. This is totally avoidable at no real cost.

    If you recall the old 80s era movie “The Lost Boys,” (itself a cheesy vampire flic), the head vampire offers a piece of advice: “Never invite a vampire into your own house, silly boy.”

    We’ve done exactly that.

    http://sjrefugee.blogspot.fr/2014/10/dont-ever-invite-vampire-into-your-own.html

  41. Indeed Cappy may be suffering hydrophobia or perhaps dementia but that’s beside the point at the moment.

    Caplan is autistic. This fact has been documented here several times and now seems pretty undeniable. Unfortunately we live in a time when being autistic is in vogue so nobody would dare suggest such a person may be unqualified to be an economist.

  42. Priss Factor [AKA "pizza with hot pepper"] says:

    Merchant of Menace

  43. @Steve Sailer
    @Thomas O. Meehan

    "What happens when Ebola becomes a real danger to our chattering class within the beltway?"

    Remember what happened when anthrax became a real danger inside the Beltway?

    We invaded Iraq.

    Replies: @TWS

    So we’re going to invade a random country starting with the letter ‘I’ that might have something to do with Africa or Ebola in some way?

    Say, Ireland? They have those ‘Black Irish’ and whatnot. Black and Tans, Black Monday, all that stuff has to have something to do with Africa.

  44. An ebola outbreak might be tragic – but allowing ebola to damage our commitment to diversity would be far worse.

  45. Ebola Guy
    You should have stayed at home yesterday
    Ah-ha words can’t describe
    The feeling and the way you lied

    These games you play
    They’re going to end in more than tears some day
    Ah-ha Ebola Guy
    It shouldn’t ever have to end this way

    It’s eight fifteen
    And that’s the time that it’s always been
    We got your message on the radio
    Conditions normal and you’re coming home

    Ebola Guy
    Is mother proud of little boy today
    Ah-ha this kiss you give
    It’s never ever going to fade away

    Ebola Guy
    It shouldn’t ever have to end this way
    Ah-ha Ebola Guy
    It shouldn’t fade in our dreams away

    It’s eight fifteen
    And that’s the time that it’s always been
    We got your message on the radio
    Conditions normal and you’re coming home

    Ebola Guy
    Is mother proud of little boy today
    Ah-ha this kiss you give
    It’s never ever going to fade away

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szIx2hOiVWs

  46. It’s simply not fair that only Africans get to enjoy the ebola. Brock H’ussein Ebola has seen to it that white (and black and brown) Americans will have an equal opportunity to contract the ebola, too.

    Viral Equality Now!

  47. “Ebola, Like Aids is a disease with rights of its own. How dare we discriminate!”

    LOFL

    Viral Equality now!

  48. Does he lock the door to his home in the evening is fast becoming the first question one should ask about anything Caplan has to say.

  49. First, remain calm when someone questions people’s ideas or behavior. After all, maybe their ideas are false, and maybe their behavior is wrong.

    Right. If you don’t like their ideas, just delete their comments or ban them, like he does.

    Second, take offense when someone questions people’s presence or existence. When you complain about a person’s being around irrespective of their behavior, you go too far. … That is not cool.

    Ah, I see, Bryan goes to bat for White Nationalists as a matter of routine! Did not know that. Learn something new every day.

    For the umpteenth time: it’s funny how many “libertarians” are radical supporters of the free movement of bodies (into the west), but oppose free movement of ideas on their websites.

  50. French truckers threaten to blockade Calais in protest over steep fines imposed for failing to prevent migrants sneaking aboard their lorries destined for Britain

    If the French truckers aren’t colluding, what’s their beef? Is it too much to ask that they drive secure trucks, keep them locked, and inspect the lock every time they stop?

    Jeez I did it three times! Where is the MS Word Paperclip with the green underlining when you need him? All aboard!

    Get a real browser. Pale Moon (Firefox fork) has spell-check.

  51. @Svigor

    My understanding of the situation is that the drivers, when they confront the illegals, get attacked by them and the police do nothing. When the drivers banded together to protect themselves from the illegals, then the police found a spine.

    Much like how ranchers defending themselves against illegal aliens are to blame on our SWB by the judiciary.

  52. Obama sends troop to West Africa to protect Africans from Ebola but does nothing to protect Americans from Ebola.

  53. WhatEvvs [AKA "Cookies"] says:

    I know this is the Daily Mail but:

    Up to 100 exposed already in Dallas Ebola shambles: Family tries to break out of isolation at virus victim’s apartment – where infected sheets still lie on the bed – as visitors come and go”

    Their site has a lot of good coverage. I have to admit, I thought that the authorities at least had cleaned up the Ebola man’s immediate environs but it appears they are too fakakt to do even that. Avoid Liberians and their ‘hoods.

    Liberia is such a weird country; it’s like this bizarro little copy of the US. It has “founding fathers” — mostly near-whites who came from Virginia.

  54. For the umpteenth time: it’s funny how many “libertarians” are radical supporters of the free movement of bodies (into the west), but oppose free movement of ideas on their websites.

    What the [expletive deleted] happened to libertarians in the last 15 years? I’ve read a lot of old articles from the mid-90s by hardcore paleolibertarians like Murray Rothbard; while they’re often eccentric and tend to overreach in their conclusions, they basically understood things like the significance of IQ differences, the problem of street crime, and the way that mass immigration mints new left-wing voters, reaching perfectly sane and rational conclusions on these issues which they were comfortably able to square with libertarian ideology.

    Today, half of what I read labelled as “libertarian” writing just seems like insanity, or at least a deliberate exercise in completely missing the point. Probably it’s because the internet has made it more popular to call oneself a “libertarian”, and in order to mass-market any complex idea, one needs to dumb it down quite a bit. Libertarianism used to attract idiosyncratic and eccentric original thinkers; now it’s almost as infected with crimestop as any other part of the political spectrum.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Rapparee

    What the [expletive deleted] happened to libertarians in the last 15 years? I’ve read a lot of old articles from the mid-90s by hardcore paleolibertarians like Murray Rothbard;

    Rothbard was always an erratic oddball. The v. Mises Institute and the various Objectivist agencies have always had their differences with the main body of libertarianism as typified by the Foundation for Economic Education, the Reason Foundation, the Cato Institute, and the Libertarian Party.

  55. Ref the truculent truckers, I don’t care if they all go out of business. Let it happen, in fact bring it on – double, no treble the fines, step up the searches. If there are no trucks then there’s no way in for the huddled masses of the vibrant. They’ll soon realise this and hopefully go and bother some other country. Tough on the truckers, maybe. But stemming the inflow of human detritus to my country is somewhat more important to me.

  56. @Lot
    Caplan is a good illustration of how libertarians may be more dangerous than ethnic activists in destroying America as we know it.

    The activists work by intimidation and protests, which they are generally incompetent at, and their goals are limiting to opening the boarders to their countrymen. Cuban Americans don't want open boarders, just open boarders for Cubans. Once they got that, they became Republican voters.

    Caplan, however, doesn't just want more Mexicans. And, you know, Mexicans aren't so bad, they've built one of the better countries in the world, and with open boarders we'd probably only get another 25 million of them. I don't agree with La Raza, but it could be worse.

    Caplan's preference, in practice, means 500 million Indians, 500 million Africans, and 100 million Pakistanis and Yemenis moving to the USA. (Probably most Mexican immigrants would head back to Mexico at that point.)

    And unlike the ethnic activists, he knows how to speak the language of the people who hold power in Washington: the very rich.

    Replies: @CJ, @Lurker

    Caplan is a good illustration of how libertarians may be more dangerous than ethnic activists in destroying America as we know it.

    Who’s to say Caplan isn’t an ethnic activist?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Lurker

    Who’s to say Caplan isn’t an ethnic activist?

    Do you fancy he's shilling for his father's people (the father who intermarried), his mother's (Irish), or his wife's (Roumanian)? Caplan was married in an Orthodox Church, btw.

  57. @Big Bill
    Liberians are another example of bogus refugees. They, like the Cubans, the Mexicans, the Iranian Jews, and (doubtless soon) the "unaccompanied children" we have taken in, will be returning regularly to their (supposedly) evil homelands for visits with family and friends, and to tend their business interests, etc. They are not seeking "refuge" from oppression, crime and violence, they are just looking to make some more money and have white folks and white folks' society take care of them--preferably for free.

    The reason that Liberia is suffering is that the ex-Negro slaves from America who colonized Liberia 150 years ago (aka "Americo-Liberians") enslaved the Liberian natives and became the Liberian elite. The natives eventually kicked their butts.

    There are now tens of thousands of the Liberian elite living in America as "refugees" from the very hellhole they created. They have moved back home to America--to the Evil White Folks' country--where the white folks can take care of them.

    Liberia has no doctors to help with Ebola because they ran off to America as "refugees" to make big bucks rather than staying back home in Liberia to take care of their own people. Now white America is sending thousands of white Americans to Liberia as soldiers, doctors, and nurses to take care of the Liberian elite's kinfolk.

    Just to make it clear that the Liberian elite refugees won't have to do anything for their own people, , President Obama announced a couple days ago that the Liberian elite refugees can stay here in America indefinitely.

    Such a deal! Not only do they get to move to America and live off the white folks, they get to send the white folks back to Liberia to sort out the problems they created!

    Replies: @S. Verdad

    Not only that, but as TPS or deferred action recipients they are now eligible for, and will receive “advance parole” authorization, which allows them to travel home and return to the U.S., despite their prior unlawful status. As an added bonus, thanks to a ridiculous Board of Immigration Appeals decision called Arabally (which DHS could have but did not appeal to Circuit Court), advance parole now serves to erase any prior unlawful entries and unlawful presence, making formerly inadmissible aliens eligible for adjustment of status (green card). It’s truly the gift that keeps on giving!

  58. “Liberian (5th highest overstay rate of any country in the world)”

    Blacks b*tch about the evil white man, the evils of slavery, all the discrimination and microaggressions they supposedly are subjected to, but even when we buy blacks a place in the great motherland utopia they pine for, pay for the boat ride back to the muthaland, they still can’t stay away from the land of the evil racist white oppressors. Doesn’t exactly support the modern race narrative.

  59. When I was in grade school in the early 1970’s, it was a super duper huge deal to have your vaccinations. If not, you were not allowed in school period. There were no exemptions or complaints allowed to this rule. This concept probably derived from the original progressive ideas of helping the health of the working class and society; – the polio campaign and other causes. What happened to that liberal impulse?

  60. One country is acting quite reasonably, though.

  61. “The fever-screening instruments run low and aren’t that accurate,”

    “And people can take ibuprofen to reduce their fever enough to pass screening, and why wouldn’t they? If it will get them on a plane so they can come to the United States and get effective treatment after they’re exposed to Ebola, wouldn’t you do that to save your life?”

    He told Science magazine in September that airport screeners in Monrovia, where he spent three weeks, “Don’t really know how to use the devices.” He said he saw screeners record temperatures of 32 degrees C (90 F), which is so low it “is impossible for a living person.”

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/ibuprofen-all-it-takes-avoid-airport-ebola-screening-experts-n217366

    Mbusa said he is a night shift worker from South Sudan and has lived in the Dallas area for about 15 years….“I don’t know anything about Ebola,” he said. “This thing is happening in west Africa.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/02/ebola-patients-waste-remained-texas-apartment-two-days

  62. WhatEvvs [AKA "Cookies"] says:

    An NBC news stringer has come down with Ebola and is being flown to the US for treatment. He’s got a new American name, Ashoka something. He chose to go to a disease-ridden dump, and he’s going to be treated at OUR expense? (Yeah, I know: NBC will pay for his treatment. Nope. He is using our resources – we are paying.)

    Why don’t we just fly every Ebola victim to the US for treatment? Isn’t that the logic of open borders? Why do we leave some victims in those disease-ridden dumps and fly home only our own? I can’t think of anymore more racist.

  63. WhatEvvs [AKA "Cookies"] says:

    Tip of the hat to the guy who linked to the Ynet news article. It bears repeating:

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4577246,00.html

    I really need to quote from this article:

    “Israel has rejected a special request by the US and UN to send IDF field hospitals to Ebola hit Liberia and Sierra Leone. Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon, who rejected the request, cited the threat of infection to Israeli medical teams in explaining his decision.

    The request was lodged by the UN and US, and was passed onto Israel though US Ambassador to the UN Samantha Power and Ron Prosor, Israel’s envoy.”

    And I really had to bold those sections. Samantha Freaking Power personally requested something and she got a reject.

    I must savor this. Mr. Sailer, I know that your commenters nag you about posts, but I think this deserves an extra special post on this blog. For once, I would really love to see the utter phoniness of the US Jewish liberalism exposed. I can understand US liberal Jews turning a blind eye to all the un-liberal things that Israel does, but this, no. I can’t. It exposes clearly the difference between the rational, self-preserving Israeli ethos, and the insane, unsustainable grab-bag of attitudes that US Jewish liberalism has decayed into — which is just an exaggeration of post WWII liberal Americanism. In short: We are evil, and don’t deserve to live. (Read Burnham.)

    The Israelis have superb military field hospitals. They are famous for their excellence and notorious for their willingness to let journalists know how great they are. But not here. Nope, the Israelis are forgoing the opportunity to remind the world yet again of their greatness.

    There must be something really bad going on in Liberia & SL, no?

  64. WhatEvvs [AKA "Cookies"] says:

    PS to above.

    The Israeli Foreign Ministry wanted to say yes, but the Def. Ministry nixed, because there was “no feasible way” to assure the safety of the medical personnel.

    Obama has sent 3K US medical personnel to the Zone. He assures us they will be safe and will not be infectious when they return. Who do you believe?

    Ynet also has something about Israel’s first possible Ebola patient – a Nigerian tourist. Now, I thought that Nigeria had contained its Ebola epidemic. I don’t believe it.

  65. @Art Deco
    @Harry Baldwin

    Maybe he just did not know the answer to the question.

    Replies: @David R. Merridale

    Maybe he just did not know the answer to the question.

    In that case, he could just have said so.

    It could be that Frieden is so thin-skinned and narcissistic that he can’t admit to perfectly understandable ignorance, but most people will take his statement as a covert admission that the patient in question is a non-citizen, and that Frieden is shifty, pro-immigration ideologue.

  66. TB2 [AKA "JB"] says:

    When you complain about a person’s being around irrespective of their behavior, you go too far. …

    You think he applies this to American Indians? Or Israel? Let him engineer a complete cut off of U.S. aid and trade to Israel over their immigration and ethnic policies. … Why do you continue to give him clicks?

  67. My understanding of the situation is that the drivers, when they confront the illegals, get attacked by them and the police do nothing. When the drivers banded together to protect themselves from the illegals, then the police found a spine.

    Much like how ranchers defending themselves against illegal aliens are to blame on our SWB by the judiciary.

    Ah, Franco-Anarcho-Tyranny, nice.

  68. For once, I would really love to see the utter phoniness of the US Jewish liberalism exposed.

    Well, that’s two things we wholeheartedly agree about. I call them faux liberals. They’re about as liberal as CAIR.

  69. @Lot

    But the goal is not to change foreigners’ minds or reform their behavior ... The goal, rather, is to rationalize deportation and exclusion of foreigners, regardless of how they comport themselves.
     
    We want to exclude Somali, Chechans, and Liberians from the USA, but not "regardless of how they comport themselves" but because we know exactly how they will behave themselves. We have ample evidence, because we know what Somalia, Liberia, and Chechnia are like, and we know how their immigrants behave in civilized countries.

    People who aren't aspie libertarians realize that foreigners behave in the USA similar to how they behave in their own country.


    But the goal is not to change foreigners’ minds or reform their behavior
     
    Changing foreigners’ minds and reforming their behavior ranges from extremely expensive to impossible. So no, that isn't our goal.

    Replies: @gu

    “but because we know exactly how they will behave themselves.”

    No you really don’t. You know that literally only 2 Chechens did anything of that kind, right?

  70. @Lurker
    @Lot


    Caplan is a good illustration of how libertarians may be more dangerous than ethnic activists in destroying America as we know it.
     
    Who's to say Caplan isn't an ethnic activist?

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Who’s to say Caplan isn’t an ethnic activist?

    Do you fancy he’s shilling for his father’s people (the father who intermarried), his mother’s (Irish), or his wife’s (Roumanian)? Caplan was married in an Orthodox Church, btw.

  71. @Rapparee
    "For the umpteenth time: it’s funny how many “libertarians” are radical supporters of the free movement of bodies (into the west), but oppose free movement of ideas on their websites."

    What the [expletive deleted] happened to libertarians in the last 15 years? I've read a lot of old articles from the mid-90s by hardcore paleolibertarians like Murray Rothbard; while they're often eccentric and tend to overreach in their conclusions, they basically understood things like the significance of IQ differences, the problem of street crime, and the way that mass immigration mints new left-wing voters, reaching perfectly sane and rational conclusions on these issues which they were comfortably able to square with libertarian ideology.

    Today, half of what I read labelled as "libertarian" writing just seems like insanity, or at least a deliberate exercise in completely missing the point. Probably it's because the internet has made it more popular to call oneself a "libertarian", and in order to mass-market any complex idea, one needs to dumb it down quite a bit. Libertarianism used to attract idiosyncratic and eccentric original thinkers; now it's almost as infected with crimestop as any other part of the political spectrum.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    What the [expletive deleted] happened to libertarians in the last 15 years? I’ve read a lot of old articles from the mid-90s by hardcore paleolibertarians like Murray Rothbard;

    Rothbard was always an erratic oddball. The v. Mises Institute and the various Objectivist agencies have always had their differences with the main body of libertarianism as typified by the Foundation for Economic Education, the Reason Foundation, the Cato Institute, and the Libertarian Party.

  72. A few days later, it could be worth revisiting commenter Jon’s list of six strikes against Ebola carrier Thomas Eric Duncan.

    1. Single
    2. Unemployed
    3. Liberian (5th highest overstay rate of any country in the world)
    4. Living outside country of citizenship
    5. First time traveler to the United States
    6. Sister living in the United States.

    With the help of an Oct. 3 CNN article, let’s look at Point 6 again:

    Also [leaving the apartment for the new residence] are the four people — the partner of the Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan, her 13-year-old son and her two 20-something nephews — who’d been stuck there for days.

    “Sister” seems to have quietly morphed into “partner” — as in “girlfriend.” She is “known only as Louise,” we are told.

    Might be a reporter’s error, but this fits the Pravda pattern all too well. The issue is that sister/girlfriend Louise shared a bed with Duncan, greatly increasing her risk for coming down with Ebola.

  73. Sun-Sentinel, 10/05/14 – Ebola patient came to U.S. to wed girlfriend, start new life

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/sns-wp-blm-news-bc-ebola-patient04-20141004-story.html

    Thomas Eric Duncan, the Dallas Ebola patient, came to the United States to marry his girlfriend…Duncan arrived in Dallas from Liberia last month, with plans to visit Louise Troh and “start a new life in America” with her…”Louise and other members of her extended family are in isolation now because of their contact with Mr. Duncan”…

    Troh and the others staying at the apartment were moved by Dallas County officials yesterday to an undisclosed location with better living conditions. While none has shown symptoms of the disease, according to the officials, they must be monitored by medical professionals for 21 days from their first exposure to the virus.

    “Where they were living was a terrible place,” Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings said at a news briefing. “They deserved better than that.”

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