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One difference between the Hindu caste system and the emerging Woke caste system is that it’s not stated who is on top, just who is at the bottom.

 
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  1. The real question is who is the puppet master behind all of this?

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    @anonymouseperson

    Dunno but by telling who is on the bottom but not noticing anything else it looks to me as if they're trying to build a new "caste tower"....

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @anonymouseperson

    Follow the money. It almost always leads to the same place.

    , @Dissident
    @anonymouseperson


    The real question is who is the puppet master behind all of this?
     
    Right. It's not as if the causes and driving forces behind a given phenomenon can ever be numerous, varied, complex and even conflict with each other. It's not as if individuals have agency and bear any responsibility for their choices, or culpability for the consequences thereof.

    No, it is always puppet masters-- shadowy, satanic elites-- who connive to corrupt and undermine the hapless, benighted, inherently pure and virtuous masses; to manipulate them into serving the former's pernicious needs and executing their grand, nefarious schemes. Always. Everywhere. Repeatedly; time after time.

    Always that simple; always a Magic Key that unlocks all problems, solves all puzzles, and allows one to avoid introspection, culpability, accountability and responsibility.

    Is that it?

    Or were you rhetorically averring that there is indeed a Grand Puppet Master-- transcendent, omniscient, omnipotent, inscrutable-- who is ultimately behind everything?

    Replies: @dfordoom

    , @AndrewR
    @anonymouseperson

    It doesn't even matter. White men are so pathetic that we just bend over and take it.

    , @Corvinus
    @anonymouseperson

    "The real question is who is the puppet master behind all of this?"

    On the GOP side, it's Trump. For starters, Stefanik felt compelled to announce, referring to House Republicans, “We are unified in working with President Trump". So, where is Mr. Sailer , aka The Man With The Rule Of Law, to NOTICING this...

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/we-are-unified-in-working-with-president-trump-stefanik/vi-BB1gJW53

    ...(and other) displays of the GOP brand of wokeness?

    https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1393209545254653953

    https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1393168815677218818

    https://twitter.com/MarkMazzettiNYT/status/1392923990046412919

    Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain

  2. One difference between the Hindu caste system and the emerging Woke caste system is that it’s not stated who is on top, just who is at the bottom.

    Brilliant. Unfortunately…

    • Agree: Getaclue
  3. Plus, in the Woke Caste system, one can change his caste more easily. It just takes a trip down to HR.

    Well, they said you was high caste,
    but that was just a lie.
    They said you was high caste,
    but that was just a lie.
    You ain’t never touched a Brahmin,
    and you ain’t no friend of mine.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Achmed E. Newman


    ...one can change [one's] caste more easily. It just takes a trip down to HR.





    Well, they said you was high caste,
    but that was just a lie.




     

    Caste your fate to the wind.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rTA3aOfrDHA
  4. Look on the bright side. It only took 3,000 years for a Gandhi to come along and liberate the Dalits.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon7


    Look on the bright side. It only took 3,000 years for a Gandhi to come along and liberate the Dalits.
     
    And for the Raj to reintroduce flush toilets:


    Private latrines and bathrooms in the ancient world

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    , @PiltdownMan
    @Anon7

    Dalits seem to dislike Gandhi. He clashed with their leader in the 1930s, apparently.


    https://wagingnonviolence.org/2012/02/gandhi-and-the-dalit-controversy-the-limits-of-the-moral-force-of-an-individual/

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/07/the-reason-indias-dalits-hate-gandhi/

    Replies: @Not Raul

  5. Agreed, save that is obvious by St. Floyd of Fentanyl that blacks are the top of the hierarchy. And Latinos are White Adjacent or next to the bottom which is White men.

    And its happening very fast. And its not sustainable. And its happening as we stumble to war with Russia. And it has no possibility of White men ascending to the top, not even a few, and most will be at the very, very bottom. With a sudden and dramatic loss of standard of living, enforced groveling, and loss of status.

    Christianity merely substituted the worship of Pagan Gods with the Holy Trinity. People still kept many of their old holidays merely rebranded (Christmas being one of them). With lots and lots of Saints days which were really just rebranded god and goddesses holy days. Certainly White people were not made to grovel before blacks. So while Wokeness will never go away as the desire for racial vengeance and the requirement to be the aristocracy of Kangs is limitless among blacks, it creates its own limitless resentment. Not just among Whites. Mexicans and Central Americans did not come here to bow down to blacks and eat grass and roach burgers while living in a shipping container watching black black black black black streaming.

    Steve you wrote how Ike and JFK were able to harness the ability of flyover country White boys to do things like build missiles, rockets, fighter jets, spy planes, and the like, and be competitive with Russia. Just how competitive with Russia let alone China will a nation run by George Floyd’s relatives be? And if White men with ambition are locked out, won’t they just turn to Russia? Does anyone think White men will be willing to fight and die for Kamala Harris? Does anyone doubt that Vladimir Putin at least generates admiration for being a dangerous man?

    Caste systems that are sustainable don’t engage in constant humiliation of the warrior caste. I know we are supposed to expect fat black women and trannies and all gay helicopter crews to win World War T or something, but up against real enemies that’s a disaster. Somewhere someone outside the US looks at us and thinks “I could lead White men up against this clown show and be King of America.” They are probably right.

  6. That’s pretty good, but already in the comments you some people saying that this is racist against Indians and others saying that the whole caste system was White people’s fault in the first place. Probably too much baggage to catch on.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @jon

    Lmao. Yes the caste system is obviously the fault of "white" people. What do you even know about India?

    If the claim is that the British are responsible for the caste system, then yes I woulf be very dubious of this claim. But it's beyond clear that "white" people created the caste system many centuries ago. Aryan Pride Worldwide.

    Replies: @jon, @Indifferent contrarian

  7. as says:

    The caste system was occupational. You were born into an occupation. You would marry people who were born into that occupation.

    You would rub shoulders with people who belonged to different occupations but you wouldn’t marry them.

    I am familiar with a certain subculture’s notions of purity. In my grandparents’ home, when I got up in the morning, I was “unclean” and not allowed to cook or to enter the prayer room. I had to shower and wear clean clothes and follow a certain schedule of washing my hair in order to be able to cook and to enter the prayer room in the house.

    I don’t think it’s a good analogy for wokeness or cancel culture, which is insane.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @as

    Your grandparents were clearly insane by my book or by any American's book. I would bet that your grandparents were more pleasant to be around than most "progressives," (all of whom are insane), but yes they were crazy.

    Replies: @Jack D

  8. as says:

    Actually, there is something that reminded me of caste notions of purity and that was Steve Sailer’s comment at the start of the covid crisis that can we all just please not hug people?

    I’m not familiar with all of India’s myriad cultures but a lot of caste purity involves an obsession with hygiene and disease.

    The way people behaved and still continue to behave with regards to covid epidemic does remind me of caste purity.

    If someone is “clean” (i.e. they bathed that morning), they don’t touch or they veer away from people who haven’t bathed and are thus “unclean.”

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @as

    I disagree with your characterization of the Indian caste system as being occupational, as it has been in existence for so long as to outlast the evolution of occupational categories.

    , @Lurker
    @as


    a lot of caste purity involves an obsession with hygiene and disease
     
    Wouldn't that be 'hygiene' rather than hygiene? A ritual cleansing in the Ganges with untreated sewage flowing past and dead bodies bobbing along doesn't conform to our standards of hygiene.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

  9. Anonymous[230] • Disclaimer says:

    From a guy who walked around in a diaper.

    • Agree: 3g4me
    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
    @Anonymous

    Having been there, the "diaper" fashion is an environmentally sound call if you don't want your crotch filling up with sweat, seriously. Anyhow, for most of his early life he looked like Tolstoy's warning of a "little Brown Englishman." A regular damned dandy (Dahndi?) he was.

    I mostly got by with Dhotis, Lungis, and Pyjamas though.

    Still, we can appreciate his wit. The British put enough uppity Indians and Africans into the ground that the joke rings true (not that Indians didn't, of course, but it's one thing to kill your own people, and another to have a foreigner do it who says he also has better manners than you do.)

    , @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    Squatting on the ground in diaper while spinning thread was an act and a very successful one. How many countries have YOU liberated from colonialism? Gandhi was a British barrister and he practiced law for two decades in South Africa and every day he wore a proper three piece suit and tie and polished oxfords and sat in a swivel chair:

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.timetoast.com/public/uploads/photos/5505173/images.jpg?1476934000

    , @dfordoom
    @Anonymous

    Unfortunately that Gandhi quote is a fake quote.

  10. The 3-7 forms one fills out when applying for any job – hard to see those in any other way than as establishing caste status.
    GOP elected officials would rather discuss a wall and the legitimacy of the 2020 election. There don’t seem to be calls for litmus tests though.

  11. No the top of the caste is white men (in a biological sense), simply because there has never been a non-white woman who hasn’t wanted to drop her panties for one

    So it’s not really like India

    I would say it’s more of a giant screaming hissy fit from non-white women who can’t get a scarce good…so they rationalize it and try to destroy what they can’t have

    of course combined with (())

    • Replies: @Smarter Than Unz dot Com
    @Thoughts

    Just be a fit white guy with a decent job and it's very clear that you're still at the top of the hierarchy, no matter what (((they))) say or what hysterical females say.

    Problem is that alot of white guys believe the propaganda and get depressed and fat and do drugs.

    Think of woke as a shit test. They're shit testing you to see if you're worthy of passing your genes on.

    Replies: @anon

  12. One difference between the Hindu caste system and the emerging Woke caste system is that it’s not stated who is on top, just who is at the bottom.

    Isn’t that just another version of “Who? Whom?” ?

  13. OT: another data point for Sailer’s Law of Mass Shootings, and it’s hilarious how hard the police chief and the AP writer worked to not call it a gang-related drive-by, or to mention the race of the shooters.

    He said multiple guns were used and it involved an “ongoing feud” involving two groups known to authorities. He said the shooting began with gunfire emanating from a vehicle, targeting a home. A person or people inside the home then returned fire. He described the participants as “young men.”

    • Replies: @anon
    @Chris Renner

    gunfire emanating from a vehicle

    Sounds quantum!

    Schroendingers vehicle emanates gunfire, but you can't know who is in it.

    Replies: @Clyde

    , @Anon
    @Chris Renner


    gunfire emanating from a vehicle
     
    That's wonderful! Why can't more journalists write like that?

    Edit:

    I had a hunch that this writing style indicated the vibrancy of the writer, so I went to check ... but it's an unbylined AP story, so we'll never know.

    The sort of writing that slightly dull blacks do when they want to sound educated is quite charming, full of words that don't quite mean what they think they mean.

    , @El Dato
    @Chris Renner

    It's of the same quality as SCOTUS writing about interpretations of the constitution, isn't it?

    , @Bill Jones
    @Chris Renner

    I guess he couldn't mention they were joggers because they were riding in a car.

  14. Jews, Gays/Trans, and Blacks are the holy ‘Brahmin’ priests of today’s America. Top castes.

    The Republican party worships Jewish ‘Brahmins.’
    The Democratic party worships Gays/Trans & Black ‘Brahmins.’

    Republicans think the Democrats are ‘anti-Semitic’ heretics.
    Democrats think that the Republicans are ‘racist’ & ‘homophobic’ heretics.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Jews, Gays/Trans, and Blacks are the holy ‘Brahmin’ priests of today’s America. Top castes.
     
    What about the original, i.e., Indian Hindu, Brahmins? Last I had checked, they seemed to rank pretty highly in the Woke pecking order, and could rival, in working the whole racket to their benefit, any other demographic.

    ~ ~ ~


    We obtained Larry Flynt’s FBI file and it's absolutely wild—including an alleged plot to kill Hugh Hefner.
     
    Does it finally reveal Flynt, as well as Hefner and Penthouse's Bob Guccione for the Jews we always knew they had to be? Or at least for being firmly in the grip of and entangled by the tenacious, filthy tentacles of Zion? If not, how to explain such prominent figures in the industry-in-question not being of the ilk that created said industry for the purpose of undermining innate white and Christian virtue?
    , @AnotherDad
    @JohnnyWalker123


    The Republican party worships Jewish ‘Brahmins.’
    The Democratic party worships Gays/Trans & Black ‘Brahmins.’

    Republicans think the Democrats are ‘anti-Semitic’ heretics.
    Democrats think that the Republicans are ‘racist’ & ‘homophobic’ heretics.
     
    Oh please.

    The Democrat party is the Jewish party--Jewish minoritarian party. Jews fund it. They provide the ideology--minoritarianism enforced by the super-state and neoliberal globalism for Wall Street. They write its propaganda. They staff it.

    Blacks are simply their pawns. The black story--slavery!, Jim Crow!, racism!--is the core minoritarian narrative. The justification for seizing America from the evil white gentiles who built it. And blacks are a vote bank. Granted they are unruly pawns ... but pawns.

    If blacks were not a vote bank for the Democrats--for Jewish minoritarian globalism--black criminality would be denounced as violent sociopathy, fit to be tossed out of society; not pandered to. Blacks would be a couple of orders of magnitude less salient. Blackety, black, black, black would be non-existent. Blacks have power only because the Democrats--the Jewish minoritarian globalism party--can not win without them.


    Yeah, some Evangelical Protestants have some bizarro Jew thing going on. AFAICT having to do with Israel, loving the Bible and last days prophecy. Some leftists or muslims criticizing Israel or blacks going off script say how they actually perceive Jews ... and some lame Republicans yap away with a Dems Real Racists anti-Semites. It's not even pathetic.

    (Evangelical Protestants please repeat after me: "American Jews do not love you. They are not even loyal to you simply as fellow Americans. They think you are stupid snake handling hayseeds who need to be replaced.")

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Gaius Gracchus, @Art Deco

  15. Sean says:

    If people without a degree could not vote, then there would be no need for all this.

    Ant named ‘they’ to recognise gender diversity | The …https://www.independent.co.uk › World › Americas
    6 May 2021 — The miniature trap-jaw ant, termed Strumigenys ayersthey, is thought to be the only creature in the world to have the non-binary suffix.

    • Replies: @Anonymouse
    @Sean

    I suggest that "Strumigenys ayersthey"means a species of strumigenys named after Ayers who discovered it, ayersthey (an error for ayersthei) being in the genitive case.

  16. I don’t think I buy the caste argument, not entirely anyway. Caste systems are by definition extremely rigid while the victim hierarchies of today are rather fluid. Victim groups move up and down the victimhood totem pole all the time, which doesn’t sound like a caste system. And you can choose a victimhood category. All you need to do is to announce that you’re bisexual (or polysexual or whatever) and immediately you’re in a much more favoured category. That doesn’t sound like a caste system either.

    Victimhood categories are much more like a class system, in which there’s some mobility between classes. Some sub-classes can gain or lose status (doctors for example increased enormously in status and power over the course of the 19th century). And new sub-classes (such as the managerial class) can emerge and gain rapidly in status. Others, such as priests, have lost status.

    I suspect that people on the Right who are pushing the caste idea are doing so because they don’t like being reminded that social class is real. They’re class deniers.

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy
  17. @Chris Renner
    OT: another data point for Sailer's Law of Mass Shootings, and it's hilarious how hard the police chief and the AP writer worked to not call it a gang-related drive-by, or to mention the race of the shooters.

    He said multiple guns were used and it involved an "ongoing feud" involving two groups known to authorities. He said the shooting began with gunfire emanating from a vehicle, targeting a home. A person or people inside the home then returned fire. He described the participants as "young men."
     

    Replies: @anon, @Anon, @El Dato, @Bill Jones

    gunfire emanating from a vehicle

    Sounds quantum!

    Schroendingers vehicle emanates gunfire, but you can’t know who is in it.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @anon


    Schroendingers vehicle emanates gunfire, but you can’t know who is in it.
     
    Hahhaha! I love it. The most passive of passive voices for mindless black violence and gunfire. Of the spray and pray kind of course.
  18. @Chris Renner
    OT: another data point for Sailer's Law of Mass Shootings, and it's hilarious how hard the police chief and the AP writer worked to not call it a gang-related drive-by, or to mention the race of the shooters.

    He said multiple guns were used and it involved an "ongoing feud" involving two groups known to authorities. He said the shooting began with gunfire emanating from a vehicle, targeting a home. A person or people inside the home then returned fire. He described the participants as "young men."
     

    Replies: @anon, @Anon, @El Dato, @Bill Jones

    gunfire emanating from a vehicle

    That’s wonderful! Why can’t more journalists write like that?

    Edit:

    I had a hunch that this writing style indicated the vibrancy of the writer, so I went to check … but it’s an unbylined AP story, so we’ll never know.

    The sort of writing that slightly dull blacks do when they want to sound educated is quite charming, full of words that don’t quite mean what they think they mean.

  19. And what has happened to anyone foolish enough to point out “who is on top”?

  20. @Achmed E. Newman
    Plus, in the Woke Caste system, one can change his caste more easily. It just takes a trip down to HR.

    Well, they said you was high caste,
    but that was just a lie.
    They said you was high caste,
    but that was just a lie.
    You ain't never touched a Brahmin,
    and you ain't no friend of mine.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    …one can change [one’s] caste more easily. It just takes a trip down to HR.

    Well, they said you was high caste,
    but that was just a lie.

    Caste your fate to the wind.

  21. @Anon7
    Look on the bright side. It only took 3,000 years for a Gandhi to come along and liberate the Dalits.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @PiltdownMan

    Look on the bright side. It only took 3,000 years for a Gandhi to come along and liberate the Dalits.

    And for the Raj to reintroduce flush toilets:

    Private latrines and bathrooms in the ancient world

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Reg Cæsar


    And for the Raj to reintroduce flush toilets:
     
    I'm not so sure about that.

    https://www.quora.com/Who-was-responsible-for-the-introduction-of-toilets-in-Indian-Railways?share=1


    "The direct discharge toilets have been a part of the rail coaches for the past 150 years or so ever since the inception of Indian Rail System during the British Raj. The ... discharge of a train running at about greater than 40 KMPH takes the form of a ..."
     
    Excerpt suitably edited, details in link.


     

    For themselves, in their homes, the British in India seem to have built themselves Moule's dry earth facilities.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Moule

    Replies: @Jack D

  22. @jon
    That's pretty good, but already in the comments you some people saying that this is racist against Indians and others saying that the whole caste system was White people's fault in the first place. Probably too much baggage to catch on.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Lmao. Yes the caste system is obviously the fault of “white” people. What do you even know about India?

    If the claim is that the British are responsible for the caste system, then yes I woulf be very dubious of this claim. But it’s beyond clear that “white” people created the caste system many centuries ago. Aryan Pride Worldwide.

    • Replies: @jon
    @AndrewR


    Lmao. Yes the caste system is obviously the fault of “white” people. What do you even know about India?
     
    I didn't say it, they said it. That was the point of my comment - people are going from saying it's anti-Indian to judge the caste system in one post, to saying the caste system is White supremacy in another. Calling it 'caste culture' instead of 'cancel culture' sounds good at first, but there is just too much chance for it to get sidetracked by other bullshit.
    , @Indifferent contrarian
    @AndrewR

    Caste SYSTEMS have existed in India for thousands of years. Then aR1Ans arrived and put themselves at the top and modified it conceptually to create the fourfold 'varna' system. This system managed to preserve knowledge that would have been corrupted by admission of outsiders (aryans and Indoeuropeans in general favoured oral tradition - when Greeks became literate it was a semitic influence).

  23. @as
    The caste system was occupational. You were born into an occupation. You would marry people who were born into that occupation.

    You would rub shoulders with people who belonged to different occupations but you wouldn't marry them.

    I am familiar with a certain subculture's notions of purity. In my grandparents' home, when I got up in the morning, I was "unclean" and not allowed to cook or to enter the prayer room. I had to shower and wear clean clothes and follow a certain schedule of washing my hair in order to be able to cook and to enter the prayer room in the house.

    I don't think it's a good analogy for wokeness or cancel culture, which is insane.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Your grandparents were clearly insane by my book or by any American’s book. I would bet that your grandparents were more pleasant to be around than most “progressives,” (all of whom are insane), but yes they were crazy.

    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @AndrewR

    People with different religious beliefs than you are not insane. Is it insane to believe that a sip of wine and a cracker are really the body and blood of Christ or that a guy can be dead for three days and then get up again? These are not things that I personally believe but I don't think that you have to be insane to believe them.

    Christianity, like many religions, used to feature ritual ablutions before entering the church but this practice disappeared in the West. Baptism is also a form of ritual ablution or purification. As crazy religious rituals go, needing to wash before you cook food is one of the less crazy ones and probably was a very good idea. What's really crazy (or at least dangerous) is cooking WITHOUT washing up first.

    Replies: @Anonymouse

  24. @Anonymous


    https://cdn.quotesgram.com/img/18/19/1812252360-quote-Mahatma-Gandhi-what-do-i-think-of-western-civilization-41738_3.png

     

    From a guy who walked around in a diaper.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell, @Jack D, @dfordoom

    Having been there, the “diaper” fashion is an environmentally sound call if you don’t want your crotch filling up with sweat, seriously. Anyhow, for most of his early life he looked like Tolstoy’s warning of a “little Brown Englishman.” A regular damned dandy (Dahndi?) he was.

    I mostly got by with Dhotis, Lungis, and Pyjamas though.

    Still, we can appreciate his wit. The British put enough uppity Indians and Africans into the ground that the joke rings true (not that Indians didn’t, of course, but it’s one thing to kill your own people, and another to have a foreigner do it who says he also has better manners than you do.)

  25. @Chris Renner
    OT: another data point for Sailer's Law of Mass Shootings, and it's hilarious how hard the police chief and the AP writer worked to not call it a gang-related drive-by, or to mention the race of the shooters.

    He said multiple guns were used and it involved an "ongoing feud" involving two groups known to authorities. He said the shooting began with gunfire emanating from a vehicle, targeting a home. A person or people inside the home then returned fire. He described the participants as "young men."
     

    Replies: @anon, @Anon, @El Dato, @Bill Jones

    It’s of the same quality as SCOTUS writing about interpretations of the constitution, isn’t it?

  26. Anonymous[571] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve,

    You know full well ‘who is on top’, the living gods, the sacred and holy people to who one must prostrate oneself and offer heavy tribute and indulgence: The blacks.

    Then you have women. And then you have dark complected people of all types.

    And you know full well who the dalits are.

  27. For a caste or feudal system to become entrenched you need a society that is stable enough to pass on rank generation after generation. We don’t have that in the US. If upward mobility is getting rare downward mobility isn’t so trying to hang on to your parents status is going to be difficult ( and some would say impossible) as living standards decline.

  28. @Anon7
    Look on the bright side. It only took 3,000 years for a Gandhi to come along and liberate the Dalits.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @PiltdownMan

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @PiltdownMan


    Dalits seem to dislike Gandhi. He clashed with their leader in the 1930s, apparently.
     
    If we want to keep from being dominated by the Brahmin, we should make common cause with Dalits, and Shudras. There should be laws against caste discrimination, corporate trainings about bigotry from “people who claim to be Brahmin”, use of the term “Brahminsplain”, public service announcements about Brahmin trafficking slaves from India, etc. The Brahmin would have a meltdown.

    Replies: @CCG, @CCG

  29. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon7


    Look on the bright side. It only took 3,000 years for a Gandhi to come along and liberate the Dalits.
     
    And for the Raj to reintroduce flush toilets:


    Private latrines and bathrooms in the ancient world

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    And for the Raj to reintroduce flush toilets:

    I’m not so sure about that.

    https://www.quora.com/Who-was-responsible-for-the-introduction-of-toilets-in-Indian-Railways?share=1

    “The direct discharge toilets have been a part of the rail coaches for the past 150 years or so ever since the inception of Indian Rail System during the British Raj. The … discharge of a train running at about greater than 40 KMPH takes the form of a …”

    Excerpt suitably edited, details in link.

    For themselves, in their homes, the British in India seem to have built themselves Moule’s dry earth facilities.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Moule

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @PiltdownMan

    Railroad toilets that discharge directly onto the tracks were common everywhere until recent times. I have ridden on older Amtrak coaches that have the same system. When you press the flush pedal you see a flash of daylight and the tracks zooming by under the train.

    https://www.joc.com/rail-intermodal/amtrak-not-exactly-flush-success_19890604.html#:~:text=Flushing%20the%20contents%20of%20passenger,order%20to%20protect%20the%20environment.


    As of 2019 they were still in use in the UK:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/03/uk-railway-firms-faiil-to-clean-up-waste-dumping-act

    Replies: @Anonymous

  30. @Chris Renner
    OT: another data point for Sailer's Law of Mass Shootings, and it's hilarious how hard the police chief and the AP writer worked to not call it a gang-related drive-by, or to mention the race of the shooters.

    He said multiple guns were used and it involved an "ongoing feud" involving two groups known to authorities. He said the shooting began with gunfire emanating from a vehicle, targeting a home. A person or people inside the home then returned fire. He described the participants as "young men."
     

    Replies: @anon, @Anon, @El Dato, @Bill Jones

    I guess he couldn’t mention they were joggers because they were riding in a car.

  31. jon says:
    @AndrewR
    @jon

    Lmao. Yes the caste system is obviously the fault of "white" people. What do you even know about India?

    If the claim is that the British are responsible for the caste system, then yes I woulf be very dubious of this claim. But it's beyond clear that "white" people created the caste system many centuries ago. Aryan Pride Worldwide.

    Replies: @jon, @Indifferent contrarian

    Lmao. Yes the caste system is obviously the fault of “white” people. What do you even know about India?

    I didn’t say it, they said it. That was the point of my comment – people are going from saying it’s anti-Indian to judge the caste system in one post, to saying the caste system is White supremacy in another. Calling it ‘caste culture’ instead of ‘cancel culture’ sounds good at first, but there is just too much chance for it to get sidetracked by other bullshit.

  32. In India, some of the middle ranking castes have had street protests to be reclassified as lower castes, in order to get more government money. While our ancestors may have passed on their genes by standing tall and holding a sword, now it’s more profitable to lie on your back and cry.

  33. @anonymouseperson
    The real question is who is the puppet master behind all of this?

    Replies: @Neoconned, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Dissident, @AndrewR, @Corvinus

    Dunno but by telling who is on the bottom but not noticing anything else it looks to me as if they’re trying to build a new “caste tower”….

  34. @JohnnyWalker123
    Jews, Gays/Trans, and Blacks are the holy 'Brahmin' priests of today's America. Top castes.

    The Republican party worships Jewish 'Brahmins.'
    The Democratic party worships Gays/Trans & Black 'Brahmins.'

    Republicans think the Democrats are 'anti-Semitic' heretics.
    Democrats think that the Republicans are 'racist' & 'homophobic' heretics.

    Replies: @Dissident, @AnotherDad

    Jews, Gays/Trans, and Blacks are the holy ‘Brahmin’ priests of today’s America. Top castes.

    What about the original, i.e., Indian Hindu, Brahmins? Last I had checked, they seemed to rank pretty highly in the Woke pecking order, and could rival, in working the whole racket to their benefit, any other demographic.

    ~ ~ ~

    We obtained Larry Flynt’s FBI file and it’s absolutely wild—including an alleged plot to kill Hugh Hefner.

    Does it finally reveal Flynt, as well as Hefner and Penthouse‘s Bob Guccione for the Jews we always knew they had to be? Or at least for being firmly in the grip of and entangled by the tenacious, filthy tentacles of Zion? If not, how to explain such prominent figures in the industry-in-question not being of the ilk that created said industry for the purpose of undermining innate white and Christian virtue?

  35. @as
    Actually, there is something that reminded me of caste notions of purity and that was Steve Sailer's comment at the start of the covid crisis that can we all just please not hug people?

    I'm not familiar with all of India's myriad cultures but a lot of caste purity involves an obsession with hygiene and disease.

    The way people behaved and still continue to behave with regards to covid epidemic does remind me of caste purity.

    If someone is "clean" (i.e. they bathed that morning), they don't touch or they veer away from people who haven't bathed and are thus "unclean."

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Lurker

    I disagree with your characterization of the Indian caste system as being occupational, as it has been in existence for so long as to outlast the evolution of occupational categories.

  36. Do you not agree that BIPOC weren’t at the bottom of the de facto economic and social totem pole prior to the awokening? Just like you said affirmative action helped Michele Obama get into the White House, couldn’t DIE help these people get ahead when all else has failed? If all you care about is equality of outcomes and there are whites willing to listen, why not push hard for DIE YT?

  37. @anonymouseperson
    The real question is who is the puppet master behind all of this?

    Replies: @Neoconned, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Dissident, @AndrewR, @Corvinus

    Follow the money. It almost always leads to the same place.

  38. @Anonymous


    https://cdn.quotesgram.com/img/18/19/1812252360-quote-Mahatma-Gandhi-what-do-i-think-of-western-civilization-41738_3.png

     

    From a guy who walked around in a diaper.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell, @Jack D, @dfordoom

    Squatting on the ground in diaper while spinning thread was an act and a very successful one. How many countries have YOU liberated from colonialism? Gandhi was a British barrister and he practiced law for two decades in South Africa and every day he wore a proper three piece suit and tie and polished oxfords and sat in a swivel chair:

  39. @PiltdownMan
    @Reg Cæsar


    And for the Raj to reintroduce flush toilets:
     
    I'm not so sure about that.

    https://www.quora.com/Who-was-responsible-for-the-introduction-of-toilets-in-Indian-Railways?share=1


    "The direct discharge toilets have been a part of the rail coaches for the past 150 years or so ever since the inception of Indian Rail System during the British Raj. The ... discharge of a train running at about greater than 40 KMPH takes the form of a ..."
     
    Excerpt suitably edited, details in link.


     

    For themselves, in their homes, the British in India seem to have built themselves Moule's dry earth facilities.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Moule

    Replies: @Jack D

    Railroad toilets that discharge directly onto the tracks were common everywhere until recent times. I have ridden on older Amtrak coaches that have the same system. When you press the flush pedal you see a flash of daylight and the tracks zooming by under the train.

    https://www.joc.com/rail-intermodal/amtrak-not-exactly-flush-success_19890604.html#:~:text=Flushing%20the%20contents%20of%20passenger,order%20to%20protect%20the%20environment.

    As of 2019 they were still in use in the UK:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/03/uk-railway-firms-faiil-to-clean-up-waste-dumping-act

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    Yep.

    They are still in use in the UK!

  40. @AndrewR
    @as

    Your grandparents were clearly insane by my book or by any American's book. I would bet that your grandparents were more pleasant to be around than most "progressives," (all of whom are insane), but yes they were crazy.

    Replies: @Jack D

    People with different religious beliefs than you are not insane. Is it insane to believe that a sip of wine and a cracker are really the body and blood of Christ or that a guy can be dead for three days and then get up again? These are not things that I personally believe but I don’t think that you have to be insane to believe them.

    Christianity, like many religions, used to feature ritual ablutions before entering the church but this practice disappeared in the West. Baptism is also a form of ritual ablution or purification. As crazy religious rituals go, needing to wash before you cook food is one of the less crazy ones and probably was a very good idea. What’s really crazy (or at least dangerous) is cooking WITHOUT washing up first.

    • Replies: @Anonymouse
    @Jack D

    Racoons wash their food before eating it which suggests that . . .

  41. @JohnnyWalker123
    Jews, Gays/Trans, and Blacks are the holy 'Brahmin' priests of today's America. Top castes.

    The Republican party worships Jewish 'Brahmins.'
    The Democratic party worships Gays/Trans & Black 'Brahmins.'

    Republicans think the Democrats are 'anti-Semitic' heretics.
    Democrats think that the Republicans are 'racist' & 'homophobic' heretics.

    Replies: @Dissident, @AnotherDad

    The Republican party worships Jewish ‘Brahmins.’
    The Democratic party worships Gays/Trans & Black ‘Brahmins.’

    Republicans think the Democrats are ‘anti-Semitic’ heretics.
    Democrats think that the Republicans are ‘racist’ & ‘homophobic’ heretics.

    Oh please.

    The Democrat party is the Jewish party–Jewish minoritarian party. Jews fund it. They provide the ideology–minoritarianism enforced by the super-state and neoliberal globalism for Wall Street. They write its propaganda. They staff it.

    Blacks are simply their pawns. The black story–slavery!, Jim Crow!, racism!–is the core minoritarian narrative. The justification for seizing America from the evil white gentiles who built it. And blacks are a vote bank. Granted they are unruly pawns … but pawns.

    If blacks were not a vote bank for the Democrats–for Jewish minoritarian globalism–black criminality would be denounced as violent sociopathy, fit to be tossed out of society; not pandered to. Blacks would be a couple of orders of magnitude less salient. Blackety, black, black, black would be non-existent. Blacks have power only because the Democrats–the Jewish minoritarian globalism party–can not win without them.

    Yeah, some Evangelical Protestants have some bizarro Jew thing going on. AFAICT having to do with Israel, loving the Bible and last days prophecy. Some leftists or muslims criticizing Israel or blacks going off script say how they actually perceive Jews … and some lame Republicans yap away with a Dems Real Racists anti-Semites. It’s not even pathetic.

    (Evangelical Protestants please repeat after me: “American Jews do not love you. They are not even loyal to you simply as fellow Americans. They think you are stupid snake handling hayseeds who need to be replaced.”)

    • Agree: Not Raul, TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @AnotherDad


    If blacks were not a vote bank for the Democrats–for Jewish minoritarian globalism–black criminality would be denounced as violent sociopathy, fit to be tossed out of society; not pandered to. Blacks would be a couple of orders of magnitude less salient. Blackety, black, black, black would be non-existent. Blacks have power only because the Democrats–the Jewish minoritarian globalism party–can not win without them.
     
    I've written before that what we're now experiencing with #BLM is the fruition of this - Mr. Obama lost white working class support between 2008 and 2012, and so the propaganda ministers foregrounded the Trayvon Martin saga going into the 2012 reelection in order to motivate turnout by blacks in the Cities in swing states in order to compensate for the aforementioned decrease in white support.

    We're now at the point of sacrilizing violent black career criminals in order to serve the near term political needs of the Democratic party. Naturally, this has led to year-over-year increases in rates of urban violent crime overwhelmingly perpetrated by blacks.

    Since 2012 due to demographic shifts the Democrats have been freed from the need to appeal to sane middle class white Americans in order to win national elections, which explains the full embrace of violent black radicalism which used to be fatal to them (i.e., Clinton and Sista Soulja).
    , @Gaius Gracchus
    @AnotherDad

    Back in 1992, right after Bush lost, there was a guest speaker at my university from AIPAC, the VP or president, or something. I thought it would be interesting and went.

    I was one of the few non Jews at the event and the speaker might not have known that there were any non Jews there.

    The speaker was so glad Bush had lost. "We don't need to pretend to like those Republicans and Christians anymore!" I was more than a bit, as I had, up to that point, only good thoughts towards Israel and Jews. The cynical words really made me start to look again about the things I thought I knew.

    , @Art Deco
    @AnotherDad

    Jews fund it.

    Jews account for about 2% of the population. It's not likely they're the sole funding source of the Democratic Party.

  42. Wokeness ideology is popular today because it is anti-white and the majority of our workforce is no longer White. Only 24% of the population under the age of 45 are straight white males, yet they still have the majority of the top jobs. Wokeness is being used to cancel whites and take their jobs and power. The majority of Working age Americans benefit from cancel culture. The only group negatively affected are White males and Married White females with white children, thus ~60% of working Americans benefit from cancel culture.

    The great awakening is just the reality of whites becoming a minority and the coalition of non-whites becoming the majority and using their demographic power to clampdown on whites.

    10% of the whites will side with the woke agenda, because they have non-white spouses and non-white children, thus the woke agenda helps their progeny get into college and advance their careers. In addition to the millions of whites who do not actually identify as white , such as Arabs, Iranians, North Africans etc… The great awakening is the result of a rapidly changing demographics.

    US population under the age of 40
    Year- Whites – Non-Whites
    1990 – 120 M — 36 M
    2020 – 88 M — 78 M

    The collapse of the white population since 1990 has made resulted in the great awakening. Whites are now easy targets and we will see the white population continue to collapse due to fewer and fewer white births as more whites have passed away over the last decade than were born.

  43. Isn’t the role of Brahmins in India some version of protecting and perpetuating an ancient language, culture and religion? The group with the highest status in present-day woke culture, preppy black women, has no role in protecting or perpetuating our culture or creating a new culture. They’re really more a symbol of the new culture – revered, protected, subject to an elaborate system of taboos. They’re the cows.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
  44. Mahatma Gandhi had a low opinion of black Africans. Any person who accepts observable reality has a low opinion of blacks, African or otherwise.

    https://atlantablackstar.com/2015/03/31/not-all-peaceful-13-racist-quotes-gandhi-said-about-black-people/

  45. @Sean
    If people without a degree could not vote, then there would be no need for all this.

    Ant named 'they' to recognise gender diversity | The ...https://www.independent.co.uk › World › Americas
    6 May 2021 — The miniature trap-jaw ant, termed Strumigenys ayersthey, is thought to be the only creature in the world to have the non-binary suffix.
     

    Replies: @Anonymouse

    I suggest that “Strumigenys ayersthey”means a species of strumigenys named after Ayers who discovered it, ayersthey (an error for ayersthei) being in the genitive case.

  46. @Jack D
    @AndrewR

    People with different religious beliefs than you are not insane. Is it insane to believe that a sip of wine and a cracker are really the body and blood of Christ or that a guy can be dead for three days and then get up again? These are not things that I personally believe but I don't think that you have to be insane to believe them.

    Christianity, like many religions, used to feature ritual ablutions before entering the church but this practice disappeared in the West. Baptism is also a form of ritual ablution or purification. As crazy religious rituals go, needing to wash before you cook food is one of the less crazy ones and probably was a very good idea. What's really crazy (or at least dangerous) is cooking WITHOUT washing up first.

    Replies: @Anonymouse

    Racoons wash their food before eating it which suggests that . . .

  47. @AnotherDad
    @JohnnyWalker123


    The Republican party worships Jewish ‘Brahmins.’
    The Democratic party worships Gays/Trans & Black ‘Brahmins.’

    Republicans think the Democrats are ‘anti-Semitic’ heretics.
    Democrats think that the Republicans are ‘racist’ & ‘homophobic’ heretics.
     
    Oh please.

    The Democrat party is the Jewish party--Jewish minoritarian party. Jews fund it. They provide the ideology--minoritarianism enforced by the super-state and neoliberal globalism for Wall Street. They write its propaganda. They staff it.

    Blacks are simply their pawns. The black story--slavery!, Jim Crow!, racism!--is the core minoritarian narrative. The justification for seizing America from the evil white gentiles who built it. And blacks are a vote bank. Granted they are unruly pawns ... but pawns.

    If blacks were not a vote bank for the Democrats--for Jewish minoritarian globalism--black criminality would be denounced as violent sociopathy, fit to be tossed out of society; not pandered to. Blacks would be a couple of orders of magnitude less salient. Blackety, black, black, black would be non-existent. Blacks have power only because the Democrats--the Jewish minoritarian globalism party--can not win without them.


    Yeah, some Evangelical Protestants have some bizarro Jew thing going on. AFAICT having to do with Israel, loving the Bible and last days prophecy. Some leftists or muslims criticizing Israel or blacks going off script say how they actually perceive Jews ... and some lame Republicans yap away with a Dems Real Racists anti-Semites. It's not even pathetic.

    (Evangelical Protestants please repeat after me: "American Jews do not love you. They are not even loyal to you simply as fellow Americans. They think you are stupid snake handling hayseeds who need to be replaced.")

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Gaius Gracchus, @Art Deco

    If blacks were not a vote bank for the Democrats–for Jewish minoritarian globalism–black criminality would be denounced as violent sociopathy, fit to be tossed out of society; not pandered to. Blacks would be a couple of orders of magnitude less salient. Blackety, black, black, black would be non-existent. Blacks have power only because the Democrats–the Jewish minoritarian globalism party–can not win without them.

    I’ve written before that what we’re now experiencing with #BLM is the fruition of this – Mr. Obama lost white working class support between 2008 and 2012, and so the propaganda ministers foregrounded the Trayvon Martin saga going into the 2012 reelection in order to motivate turnout by blacks in the Cities in swing states in order to compensate for the aforementioned decrease in white support.

    We’re now at the point of sacrilizing violent black career criminals in order to serve the near term political needs of the Democratic party. Naturally, this has led to year-over-year increases in rates of urban violent crime overwhelmingly perpetrated by blacks.

    Since 2012 due to demographic shifts the Democrats have been freed from the need to appeal to sane middle class white Americans in order to win national elections, which explains the full embrace of violent black radicalism which used to be fatal to them (i.e., Clinton and Sista Soulja).

  48. Steve, keep the grandsons out of the Game.

  49. Anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @PiltdownMan

    Railroad toilets that discharge directly onto the tracks were common everywhere until recent times. I have ridden on older Amtrak coaches that have the same system. When you press the flush pedal you see a flash of daylight and the tracks zooming by under the train.

    https://www.joc.com/rail-intermodal/amtrak-not-exactly-flush-success_19890604.html#:~:text=Flushing%20the%20contents%20of%20passenger,order%20to%20protect%20the%20environment.


    As of 2019 they were still in use in the UK:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/03/uk-railway-firms-faiil-to-clean-up-waste-dumping-act

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Yep.

    They are still in use in the UK!

  50. @anonymouseperson
    The real question is who is the puppet master behind all of this?

    Replies: @Neoconned, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Dissident, @AndrewR, @Corvinus

    The real question is who is the puppet master behind all of this?

    Right. It’s not as if the causes and driving forces behind a given phenomenon can ever be numerous, varied, complex and even conflict with each other. It’s not as if individuals have agency and bear any responsibility for their choices, or culpability for the consequences thereof.

    No, it is always puppet masters— shadowy, satanic elites– who connive to corrupt and undermine the hapless, benighted, inherently pure and virtuous masses; to manipulate them into serving the former’s pernicious needs and executing their grand, nefarious schemes. Always. Everywhere. Repeatedly; time after time.

    Always that simple; always a Magic Key that unlocks all problems, solves all puzzles, and allows one to avoid introspection, culpability, accountability and responsibility.

    Is that it?

    Or were you rhetorically averring that there is indeed a Grand Puppet Master— transcendent, omniscient, omnipotent, inscrutable– who is ultimately behind everything?

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Dissident


    No, it is always puppet masters— shadowy, satanic elites– who connive to corrupt and undermine the hapless, benighted, inherently pure and virtuous masses; to manipulate them into serving the former’s pernicious needs and executing their grand, nefarious schemes. Always. Everywhere. Repeatedly; time after time.
     
    I'm a bit suspicious of the Deep State idea.

    Obviously there are powerful interest groups who have agendas to pursue and those agendas are often destructive. But those who promote the Deep State idea seem to think that these interest groups form a single coherent whole. They clearly have interests in common but I suspect that they don't all have exactly the same agenda.

    And there's nothing secretive or shadowy about these groups, or their agendas. Even the ones that have particularly evil agendas (such as the CIA and the military) are remarkably open about it.

    I don't buy the idea that the Deep State is a secret cabal of faceless men who hold secret meetings in smoke-filled rooms. I also don't buy the idea that the Deep State is kind of like SPECTRE, with a secret plan for world domination.

    The Deep State idea, which is a variant of the puppet masters idea, does seem to be a way of evading responsibility.

    A lot of bad decisions have been made in the past fifty years and ordinary white people offered no resistance to those bad ideas. In many cases a huge proportion of the white population eagerly embraced those bad ideas.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  51. @AnotherDad
    @JohnnyWalker123


    The Republican party worships Jewish ‘Brahmins.’
    The Democratic party worships Gays/Trans & Black ‘Brahmins.’

    Republicans think the Democrats are ‘anti-Semitic’ heretics.
    Democrats think that the Republicans are ‘racist’ & ‘homophobic’ heretics.
     
    Oh please.

    The Democrat party is the Jewish party--Jewish minoritarian party. Jews fund it. They provide the ideology--minoritarianism enforced by the super-state and neoliberal globalism for Wall Street. They write its propaganda. They staff it.

    Blacks are simply their pawns. The black story--slavery!, Jim Crow!, racism!--is the core minoritarian narrative. The justification for seizing America from the evil white gentiles who built it. And blacks are a vote bank. Granted they are unruly pawns ... but pawns.

    If blacks were not a vote bank for the Democrats--for Jewish minoritarian globalism--black criminality would be denounced as violent sociopathy, fit to be tossed out of society; not pandered to. Blacks would be a couple of orders of magnitude less salient. Blackety, black, black, black would be non-existent. Blacks have power only because the Democrats--the Jewish minoritarian globalism party--can not win without them.


    Yeah, some Evangelical Protestants have some bizarro Jew thing going on. AFAICT having to do with Israel, loving the Bible and last days prophecy. Some leftists or muslims criticizing Israel or blacks going off script say how they actually perceive Jews ... and some lame Republicans yap away with a Dems Real Racists anti-Semites. It's not even pathetic.

    (Evangelical Protestants please repeat after me: "American Jews do not love you. They are not even loyal to you simply as fellow Americans. They think you are stupid snake handling hayseeds who need to be replaced.")

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Gaius Gracchus, @Art Deco

    Back in 1992, right after Bush lost, there was a guest speaker at my university from AIPAC, the VP or president, or something. I thought it would be interesting and went.

    I was one of the few non Jews at the event and the speaker might not have known that there were any non Jews there.

    The speaker was so glad Bush had lost. “We don’t need to pretend to like those Republicans and Christians anymore!” I was more than a bit, as I had, up to that point, only good thoughts towards Israel and Jews. The cynical words really made me start to look again about the things I thought I knew.

  52. @anonymouseperson
    The real question is who is the puppet master behind all of this?

    Replies: @Neoconned, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Dissident, @AndrewR, @Corvinus

    It doesn’t even matter. White men are so pathetic that we just bend over and take it.

  53. @Thoughts
    No the top of the caste is white men (in a biological sense), simply because there has never been a non-white woman who hasn't wanted to drop her panties for one

    So it's not really like India

    I would say it's more of a giant screaming hissy fit from non-white women who can't get a scarce good...so they rationalize it and try to destroy what they can't have

    of course combined with (())

    Replies: @Smarter Than Unz dot Com

    Just be a fit white guy with a decent job and it’s very clear that you’re still at the top of the hierarchy, no matter what (((they))) say or what hysterical females say.

    Problem is that alot of white guys believe the propaganda and get depressed and fat and do drugs.

    Think of woke as a shit test. They’re shit testing you to see if you’re worthy of passing your genes on.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Smarter Than Unz dot Com

    Just be a fit white guy with a decent job...

    You mean a "decent job" like a barely paid internship plus part time Uber driver with a side gig at DoorDash plus another internship to interview for? Like that?

    Millennials and GenZ say "hi".

    Think of woke as a shit test. They’re shit testing you to see if you’re worthy of passing your genes on.

    Ok, Boomer!

  54. One difference between the Hindu caste system and the emerging Woke caste system is that it’s not stated who is on top, just who is at the bottom.

    Sure; but we know who’s on top.

  55. @as
    Actually, there is something that reminded me of caste notions of purity and that was Steve Sailer's comment at the start of the covid crisis that can we all just please not hug people?

    I'm not familiar with all of India's myriad cultures but a lot of caste purity involves an obsession with hygiene and disease.

    The way people behaved and still continue to behave with regards to covid epidemic does remind me of caste purity.

    If someone is "clean" (i.e. they bathed that morning), they don't touch or they veer away from people who haven't bathed and are thus "unclean."

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Lurker

    a lot of caste purity involves an obsession with hygiene and disease

    Wouldn’t that be ‘hygiene’ rather than hygiene? A ritual cleansing in the Ganges with untreated sewage flowing past and dead bodies bobbing along doesn’t conform to our standards of hygiene.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @Lurker

    I was about to make that point. Ritual purity has only a tenuous relation to actual hygiene. Moslems, for example, if water isn't handy, can use sand to perform their ritual ablutions. (Makes sense in the desert, I guess).

    I've pointed out here and elsewhere that the goyim have been fooled into thinking that "kosher" means "safe, clean, hygienic" when actually it just means a rabbi waved his hands around and pocketed a fee. Imagine the conditions in those Kansas City meatpacking plants those Orthodox rabbis were busted for operating with illegals.

    Replies: @Dissident

  56. @PiltdownMan
    @Anon7

    Dalits seem to dislike Gandhi. He clashed with their leader in the 1930s, apparently.


    https://wagingnonviolence.org/2012/02/gandhi-and-the-dalit-controversy-the-limits-of-the-moral-force-of-an-individual/

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/07/the-reason-indias-dalits-hate-gandhi/

    Replies: @Not Raul

    Dalits seem to dislike Gandhi. He clashed with their leader in the 1930s, apparently.

    If we want to keep from being dominated by the Brahmin, we should make common cause with Dalits, and Shudras. There should be laws against caste discrimination, corporate trainings about bigotry from “people who claim to be Brahmin”, use of the term “Brahminsplain”, public service announcements about Brahmin trafficking slaves from India, etc. The Brahmin would have a meltdown.

    • Replies: @CCG
    @Not Raul

    You could also make the entire group live up to their own book of rules:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kala_pani_(taboo)
    They're not allowed to enter the West at all.

    , @CCG
    @Not Raul

    Non-Hindus also need to know how Hindus really see them:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mleccha

  57. @Lurker
    @as


    a lot of caste purity involves an obsession with hygiene and disease
     
    Wouldn't that be 'hygiene' rather than hygiene? A ritual cleansing in the Ganges with untreated sewage flowing past and dead bodies bobbing along doesn't conform to our standards of hygiene.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

    I was about to make that point. Ritual purity has only a tenuous relation to actual hygiene. Moslems, for example, if water isn’t handy, can use sand to perform their ritual ablutions. (Makes sense in the desert, I guess).

    I’ve pointed out here and elsewhere that the goyim have been fooled into thinking that “kosher” means “safe, clean, hygienic” when actually it just means a rabbi waved his hands around and pocketed a fee. Imagine the conditions in those Kansas City meatpacking plants those Orthodox rabbis were busted for operating with illegals.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @James J O'Meara


    I’ve pointed out here and elsewhere that the goyim have been fooled into thinking that “kosher” means “safe, clean, hygienic” when actually it just means a rabbi waved his hands around and pocketed a fee.
     
    1.) To respond to your last assertion first, while there will unfortunately always be unscrupulous individuals and operations and even out-and-out charlatans and frauds, the facts nonetheless remain that:
    - kosher (kashruth/kashrus) laws in Judaism consist of rigorous specifications and standards that are detailed in the relevant codes of halakhah (Judaic religious law);
    - there are a number of legitimate, reliable, honest rabbis and kosher-certifying agencies
    (Any Jew who is at all knowledgeable and serious in his observance will only rely on any "kosher stamp of approval" appearing on a product or establishment but only on select names that maintain a reputation for being vetted.)

    2.) You are correct that kosher (obviously when in name-only but even when legitimate) should not be assumed to be synonymous with or indicative of a higher standard of safety, cleanliness or hygiene.

    There have been some commercial interests who have at least implied such claims in their marketing. There are also at least some and perhaps even many observant Jews who honestly believe such misconceptions. Those who are sufficiently learned in Judaism, however, understand that not only the kashrus of food but also of tumah/ tehorah-- commonly translated, respectively, as "uncleanliness"/"cleanliness" or, more accurately, "ritual impurity"/"ritual purity" are subjective faith-based/ spiritual/ metaphysical concepts that are completely orthogonal to the objective/scientific/biological ones of physical cleanliness, medical hygiene, physical/corporeal safety, etc.

  58. anon[236] • Disclaimer says:
    @Smarter Than Unz dot Com
    @Thoughts

    Just be a fit white guy with a decent job and it's very clear that you're still at the top of the hierarchy, no matter what (((they))) say or what hysterical females say.

    Problem is that alot of white guys believe the propaganda and get depressed and fat and do drugs.

    Think of woke as a shit test. They're shit testing you to see if you're worthy of passing your genes on.

    Replies: @anon

    Just be a fit white guy with a decent job…

    You mean a “decent job” like a barely paid internship plus part time Uber driver with a side gig at DoorDash plus another internship to interview for? Like that?

    Millennials and GenZ say “hi”.

    Think of woke as a shit test. They’re shit testing you to see if you’re worthy of passing your genes on.

    Ok, Boomer!

    • Disagree: TTSSYF
  59. ODESSA knows who’s on top steve.

  60. @James J O'Meara
    @Lurker

    I was about to make that point. Ritual purity has only a tenuous relation to actual hygiene. Moslems, for example, if water isn't handy, can use sand to perform their ritual ablutions. (Makes sense in the desert, I guess).

    I've pointed out here and elsewhere that the goyim have been fooled into thinking that "kosher" means "safe, clean, hygienic" when actually it just means a rabbi waved his hands around and pocketed a fee. Imagine the conditions in those Kansas City meatpacking plants those Orthodox rabbis were busted for operating with illegals.

    Replies: @Dissident

    I’ve pointed out here and elsewhere that the goyim have been fooled into thinking that “kosher” means “safe, clean, hygienic” when actually it just means a rabbi waved his hands around and pocketed a fee.

    1.) To respond to your last assertion first, while there will unfortunately always be unscrupulous individuals and operations and even out-and-out charlatans and frauds, the facts nonetheless remain that:
    – kosher (kashruth/kashrus) laws in Judaism consist of rigorous specifications and standards that are detailed in the relevant codes of halakhah (Judaic religious law);
    – there are a number of legitimate, reliable, honest rabbis and kosher-certifying agencies
    (Any Jew who is at all knowledgeable and serious in his observance will only rely on any “kosher stamp of approval” appearing on a product or establishment but only on select names that maintain a reputation for being vetted.)

    2.) You are correct that kosher (obviously when in name-only but even when legitimate) should not be assumed to be synonymous with or indicative of a higher standard of safety, cleanliness or hygiene.

    There have been some commercial interests who have at least implied such claims in their marketing. There are also at least some and perhaps even many observant Jews who honestly believe such misconceptions. Those who are sufficiently learned in Judaism, however, understand that not only the kashrus of food but also of tumah/ tehorah— commonly translated, respectively, as “uncleanliness”/”cleanliness” or, more accurately, “ritual impurity”/”ritual purity” are subjective faith-based/ spiritual/ metaphysical concepts that are completely orthogonal to the objective/scientific/biological ones of physical cleanliness, medical hygiene, physical/corporeal safety, etc.

  61. @Not Raul
    @PiltdownMan


    Dalits seem to dislike Gandhi. He clashed with their leader in the 1930s, apparently.
     
    If we want to keep from being dominated by the Brahmin, we should make common cause with Dalits, and Shudras. There should be laws against caste discrimination, corporate trainings about bigotry from “people who claim to be Brahmin”, use of the term “Brahminsplain”, public service announcements about Brahmin trafficking slaves from India, etc. The Brahmin would have a meltdown.

    Replies: @CCG, @CCG

    You could also make the entire group live up to their own book of rules:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kala_pani_(taboo)
    They’re not allowed to enter the West at all.

  62. @Anonymous


    https://cdn.quotesgram.com/img/18/19/1812252360-quote-Mahatma-Gandhi-what-do-i-think-of-western-civilization-41738_3.png

     

    From a guy who walked around in a diaper.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell, @Jack D, @dfordoom

    Unfortunately that Gandhi quote is a fake quote.

  63. @Dissident
    @anonymouseperson


    The real question is who is the puppet master behind all of this?
     
    Right. It's not as if the causes and driving forces behind a given phenomenon can ever be numerous, varied, complex and even conflict with each other. It's not as if individuals have agency and bear any responsibility for their choices, or culpability for the consequences thereof.

    No, it is always puppet masters-- shadowy, satanic elites-- who connive to corrupt and undermine the hapless, benighted, inherently pure and virtuous masses; to manipulate them into serving the former's pernicious needs and executing their grand, nefarious schemes. Always. Everywhere. Repeatedly; time after time.

    Always that simple; always a Magic Key that unlocks all problems, solves all puzzles, and allows one to avoid introspection, culpability, accountability and responsibility.

    Is that it?

    Or were you rhetorically averring that there is indeed a Grand Puppet Master-- transcendent, omniscient, omnipotent, inscrutable-- who is ultimately behind everything?

    Replies: @dfordoom

    No, it is always puppet masters— shadowy, satanic elites– who connive to corrupt and undermine the hapless, benighted, inherently pure and virtuous masses; to manipulate them into serving the former’s pernicious needs and executing their grand, nefarious schemes. Always. Everywhere. Repeatedly; time after time.

    I’m a bit suspicious of the Deep State idea.

    Obviously there are powerful interest groups who have agendas to pursue and those agendas are often destructive. But those who promote the Deep State idea seem to think that these interest groups form a single coherent whole. They clearly have interests in common but I suspect that they don’t all have exactly the same agenda.

    And there’s nothing secretive or shadowy about these groups, or their agendas. Even the ones that have particularly evil agendas (such as the CIA and the military) are remarkably open about it.

    I don’t buy the idea that the Deep State is a secret cabal of faceless men who hold secret meetings in smoke-filled rooms. I also don’t buy the idea that the Deep State is kind of like SPECTRE, with a secret plan for world domination.

    The Deep State idea, which is a variant of the puppet masters idea, does seem to be a way of evading responsibility.

    A lot of bad decisions have been made in the past fifty years and ordinary white people offered no resistance to those bad ideas. In many cases a huge proportion of the white population eagerly embraced those bad ideas.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @dfordoom

    You're on the right track here, except...

    "ones that have particularly evil agendas (such as the CIA and the military)"

    You mean agendas that some people may characterize as being evil, or the ideologies behind those decisions may be labeled as being driven by evil intentions. It's subjective.

    "A lot of bad decisions have been made in the past fifty years and ordinary white people offered no resistance to those bad ideas."

    What "bad decisions" and "bad ideas" are you exactly referring to? "No resistance"...well, that is a bold statement. How would you quantify it? And what exactly are "ordinary white people"? Is that code for normies?

    "In many cases a huge proportion of the white population eagerly embraced those bad ideas".

    What numbers or percentages are we talking about? How did you arrive at that figure? And, again, what are these "bad ideas"?

    Replies: @dfordoom

  64. Mr. Sailer, what say you about the GOP canceling one of their own? Or will your own caginess preclude you from commenting?

    https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-liz-cheney-house-elections-election-2020-government-and-politics-db885d0a6b28f12d733da54dbae617fa

    “it’s not stated who is on top, just who is at the bottom.”

    Indeed. On the floor of the House on Jan. 13, McCarthy said: “The president bears responsibility for Wednesday’s attack on Congress by mob rioters. He should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding”.

    NOTICE how McCarthy has changed his story.

    Rep. Elise Stefanik was once quoted as saying that “I will work with anyone, regardless of their party affiliation, to get it done…Republicans, Democrats, independents, even Green Party — if you have a good idea, I’m willing to work with you to get the job done.” In an interview in 2015, she trumpeted her work with a group of moderate Republicans, who she said were “more of the governing caucus within the Republican Party,” and landed a thinly veiled jab at the ultraconservative members of the House Freedom Caucus without naming them, suggesting that they had not used “the most appropriate tenor” and had provoked “internal squabbling.”

    NOTICE how Stefanik has gone full woke Trump style.

  65. @anonymouseperson
    The real question is who is the puppet master behind all of this?

    Replies: @Neoconned, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Dissident, @AndrewR, @Corvinus

    “The real question is who is the puppet master behind all of this?”

    On the GOP side, it’s Trump. For starters, Stefanik felt compelled to announce, referring to House Republicans, “We are unified in working with President Trump”. So, where is Mr. Sailer , aka The Man With The Rule Of Law, to NOTICING this…

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/we-are-unified-in-working-with-president-trump-stefanik/vi-BB1gJW53

    …(and other) displays of the GOP brand of wokeness?

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
    @Corvinus

    Adam Goldman, of course. The NYT is surely a completely Goyimfrei zone these days, is it not. As for this, surely both lies and reality inversion, in the famiilar pattern, who but a buffoon would give it an instant's credence?

    Replies: @Corvinus

  66. @AndrewR
    @jon

    Lmao. Yes the caste system is obviously the fault of "white" people. What do you even know about India?

    If the claim is that the British are responsible for the caste system, then yes I woulf be very dubious of this claim. But it's beyond clear that "white" people created the caste system many centuries ago. Aryan Pride Worldwide.

    Replies: @jon, @Indifferent contrarian

    Caste SYSTEMS have existed in India for thousands of years. Then aR1Ans arrived and put themselves at the top and modified it conceptually to create the fourfold ‘varna’ system. This system managed to preserve knowledge that would have been corrupted by admission of outsiders (aryans and Indoeuropeans in general favoured oral tradition – when Greeks became literate it was a semitic influence).

  67. @dfordoom
    @Dissident


    No, it is always puppet masters— shadowy, satanic elites– who connive to corrupt and undermine the hapless, benighted, inherently pure and virtuous masses; to manipulate them into serving the former’s pernicious needs and executing their grand, nefarious schemes. Always. Everywhere. Repeatedly; time after time.
     
    I'm a bit suspicious of the Deep State idea.

    Obviously there are powerful interest groups who have agendas to pursue and those agendas are often destructive. But those who promote the Deep State idea seem to think that these interest groups form a single coherent whole. They clearly have interests in common but I suspect that they don't all have exactly the same agenda.

    And there's nothing secretive or shadowy about these groups, or their agendas. Even the ones that have particularly evil agendas (such as the CIA and the military) are remarkably open about it.

    I don't buy the idea that the Deep State is a secret cabal of faceless men who hold secret meetings in smoke-filled rooms. I also don't buy the idea that the Deep State is kind of like SPECTRE, with a secret plan for world domination.

    The Deep State idea, which is a variant of the puppet masters idea, does seem to be a way of evading responsibility.

    A lot of bad decisions have been made in the past fifty years and ordinary white people offered no resistance to those bad ideas. In many cases a huge proportion of the white population eagerly embraced those bad ideas.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    You’re on the right track here, except…

    “ones that have particularly evil agendas (such as the CIA and the military)”

    You mean agendas that some people may characterize as being evil, or the ideologies behind those decisions may be labeled as being driven by evil intentions. It’s subjective.

    “A lot of bad decisions have been made in the past fifty years and ordinary white people offered no resistance to those bad ideas.”

    What “bad decisions” and “bad ideas” are you exactly referring to? “No resistance”…well, that is a bold statement. How would you quantify it? And what exactly are “ordinary white people”? Is that code for normies?

    “In many cases a huge proportion of the white population eagerly embraced those bad ideas”.

    What numbers or percentages are we talking about? How did you arrive at that figure? And, again, what are these “bad ideas”?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Corvinus


    “ones that have particularly evil agendas (such as the CIA and the military)”

    You mean agendas that some people may characterize as being evil, or the ideologies behind those decisions may be labeled as being driven by evil intentions. It’s subjective.
     
    Imposing American cultural and social values on other nations (by force) seems to me to be pretty obviously evil. It's neo-colonialism. And it's racist. I believe in respecting other people's cultures.

    I think that aiming for American world domination is pretty evil. I like the idea of other countries being allowed to make their own choices.

    And, again, what are these “bad ideas”?
     
    Bad ideas are often (possibly even mostly) good ideas pushed to extremes. Feminism seemed like a good idea in the 1960s. By the 1990s it was becoming as oppressive as the "patriarchy" to which it was supposedly opposed. Ending persecution of homosexuals was a good idea. Trying to persuade others to celebrate homosexuality is pushing that good idea to an extreme where it becomes a bad idea.

    Environmentalism was a good idea when it was concerned with actual problems, such as air pollution and water pollution. It became a bad idea when it became obsessed with imaginary threats such as global warming, and it became a bad idea when it become a money-making scheme for "green" industries.

    Being opposed to racism was a good idea. Wokeism is that good idea pushed to an extreme, which makes Wokeism a bad idea.

    I'm a moderate I guess. Mostly I don't like extremes. That's why I don't like the alt-right. They're extremists.

    Replies: @dfordoom

  68. @Corvinus
    @dfordoom

    You're on the right track here, except...

    "ones that have particularly evil agendas (such as the CIA and the military)"

    You mean agendas that some people may characterize as being evil, or the ideologies behind those decisions may be labeled as being driven by evil intentions. It's subjective.

    "A lot of bad decisions have been made in the past fifty years and ordinary white people offered no resistance to those bad ideas."

    What "bad decisions" and "bad ideas" are you exactly referring to? "No resistance"...well, that is a bold statement. How would you quantify it? And what exactly are "ordinary white people"? Is that code for normies?

    "In many cases a huge proportion of the white population eagerly embraced those bad ideas".

    What numbers or percentages are we talking about? How did you arrive at that figure? And, again, what are these "bad ideas"?

    Replies: @dfordoom

    “ones that have particularly evil agendas (such as the CIA and the military)”

    You mean agendas that some people may characterize as being evil, or the ideologies behind those decisions may be labeled as being driven by evil intentions. It’s subjective.

    Imposing American cultural and social values on other nations (by force) seems to me to be pretty obviously evil. It’s neo-colonialism. And it’s racist. I believe in respecting other people’s cultures.

    I think that aiming for American world domination is pretty evil. I like the idea of other countries being allowed to make their own choices.

    And, again, what are these “bad ideas”?

    Bad ideas are often (possibly even mostly) good ideas pushed to extremes. Feminism seemed like a good idea in the 1960s. By the 1990s it was becoming as oppressive as the “patriarchy” to which it was supposedly opposed. Ending persecution of homosexuals was a good idea. Trying to persuade others to celebrate homosexuality is pushing that good idea to an extreme where it becomes a bad idea.

    Environmentalism was a good idea when it was concerned with actual problems, such as air pollution and water pollution. It became a bad idea when it became obsessed with imaginary threats such as global warming, and it became a bad idea when it become a money-making scheme for “green” industries.

    Being opposed to racism was a good idea. Wokeism is that good idea pushed to an extreme, which makes Wokeism a bad idea.

    I’m a moderate I guess. Mostly I don’t like extremes. That’s why I don’t like the alt-right. They’re extremists.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @dfordoom

    Further to my point about good ideas gone bad - the various ideas I listed (feminism, halting persecution of homosexuals, environmentalism, anti-racism, etc) all started as ideas that were intended to be liberating and all ended up becoming oppressive rather than liberating.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  69. @dfordoom
    @Corvinus


    “ones that have particularly evil agendas (such as the CIA and the military)”

    You mean agendas that some people may characterize as being evil, or the ideologies behind those decisions may be labeled as being driven by evil intentions. It’s subjective.
     
    Imposing American cultural and social values on other nations (by force) seems to me to be pretty obviously evil. It's neo-colonialism. And it's racist. I believe in respecting other people's cultures.

    I think that aiming for American world domination is pretty evil. I like the idea of other countries being allowed to make their own choices.

    And, again, what are these “bad ideas”?
     
    Bad ideas are often (possibly even mostly) good ideas pushed to extremes. Feminism seemed like a good idea in the 1960s. By the 1990s it was becoming as oppressive as the "patriarchy" to which it was supposedly opposed. Ending persecution of homosexuals was a good idea. Trying to persuade others to celebrate homosexuality is pushing that good idea to an extreme where it becomes a bad idea.

    Environmentalism was a good idea when it was concerned with actual problems, such as air pollution and water pollution. It became a bad idea when it became obsessed with imaginary threats such as global warming, and it became a bad idea when it become a money-making scheme for "green" industries.

    Being opposed to racism was a good idea. Wokeism is that good idea pushed to an extreme, which makes Wokeism a bad idea.

    I'm a moderate I guess. Mostly I don't like extremes. That's why I don't like the alt-right. They're extremists.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    Further to my point about good ideas gone bad – the various ideas I listed (feminism, halting persecution of homosexuals, environmentalism, anti-racism, etc) all started as ideas that were intended to be liberating and all ended up becoming oppressive rather than liberating.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @dfordoom

    "that were intended to be liberating and all ended up becoming oppressive rather than liberating."

    They are still liberating, it just depends upon one's perspective regarding if the philosophy is too "extreme" for their liking.

    Replies: @dfordoom

  70. Capitalism is about caste, which supersedes class after a period. When all privilege is mostly hereditary, and upward social mobility is dead, caste rules, and we all know who the Brahmins in the West are these days.

  71. @Corvinus
    @anonymouseperson

    "The real question is who is the puppet master behind all of this?"

    On the GOP side, it's Trump. For starters, Stefanik felt compelled to announce, referring to House Republicans, “We are unified in working with President Trump". So, where is Mr. Sailer , aka The Man With The Rule Of Law, to NOTICING this...

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/we-are-unified-in-working-with-president-trump-stefanik/vi-BB1gJW53

    ...(and other) displays of the GOP brand of wokeness?

    https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1393209545254653953

    https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1393168815677218818

    https://twitter.com/MarkMazzettiNYT/status/1392923990046412919

    Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Adam Goldman, of course. The NYT is surely a completely Goyimfrei zone these days, is it not. As for this, surely both lies and reality inversion, in the famiilar pattern, who but a buffoon would give it an instant’s credence?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    You didn't address the points I made. Bitter truth too hard for you to swallow?

  72. @dfordoom
    @dfordoom

    Further to my point about good ideas gone bad - the various ideas I listed (feminism, halting persecution of homosexuals, environmentalism, anti-racism, etc) all started as ideas that were intended to be liberating and all ended up becoming oppressive rather than liberating.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “that were intended to be liberating and all ended up becoming oppressive rather than liberating.”

    They are still liberating, it just depends upon one’s perspective regarding if the philosophy is too “extreme” for their liking.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Corvinus


    They are still liberating, it just depends upon one’s perspective regarding if the philosophy is too “extreme” for their liking.
     
    It's not very liberating to be coerced and threatened for disagreeing with someone else's ideology or moral values. It's not very liberating to be unable to express dissenting views.

    I don't like that kind of coercion when it's done by right-wingers or fascists or Christians and I don't like it when it's done by feminists or people who claim to be liberals.

    I like the idea of liberation. I'm an economic leftist but on social and cultural issues I definitely lean libertarian.

    I'm happy for Christians to follow their moral beliefs as long as they don't try to impose them on me (or on anyone else) and as long as they don't try to silence me for disagreeing with them. I apply the same rule to liberals. I don't like any hint of totalitarianism, whether it comes from people who claim to be on the Right or from people who claim to be on the Left.

    I don't give a damn about other people's lifestyles or life choices or moral values if they don't interfere with others. Even if they choose extreme lifestyles or extreme moral values I still don't care. But I do object when I'm told what I can say and what I should think.

    I don't think most modern liberals understand what liberalism means.
  73. @Mulga Mumblebrain
    @Corvinus

    Adam Goldman, of course. The NYT is surely a completely Goyimfrei zone these days, is it not. As for this, surely both lies and reality inversion, in the famiilar pattern, who but a buffoon would give it an instant's credence?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    You didn’t address the points I made. Bitter truth too hard for you to swallow?

  74. @Corvinus
    @dfordoom

    "that were intended to be liberating and all ended up becoming oppressive rather than liberating."

    They are still liberating, it just depends upon one's perspective regarding if the philosophy is too "extreme" for their liking.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    They are still liberating, it just depends upon one’s perspective regarding if the philosophy is too “extreme” for their liking.

    It’s not very liberating to be coerced and threatened for disagreeing with someone else’s ideology or moral values. It’s not very liberating to be unable to express dissenting views.

    I don’t like that kind of coercion when it’s done by right-wingers or fascists or Christians and I don’t like it when it’s done by feminists or people who claim to be liberals.

    I like the idea of liberation. I’m an economic leftist but on social and cultural issues I definitely lean libertarian.

    I’m happy for Christians to follow their moral beliefs as long as they don’t try to impose them on me (or on anyone else) and as long as they don’t try to silence me for disagreeing with them. I apply the same rule to liberals. I don’t like any hint of totalitarianism, whether it comes from people who claim to be on the Right or from people who claim to be on the Left.

    I don’t give a damn about other people’s lifestyles or life choices or moral values if they don’t interfere with others. Even if they choose extreme lifestyles or extreme moral values I still don’t care. But I do object when I’m told what I can say and what I should think.

    I don’t think most modern liberals understand what liberalism means.

  75. @Not Raul
    @PiltdownMan


    Dalits seem to dislike Gandhi. He clashed with their leader in the 1930s, apparently.
     
    If we want to keep from being dominated by the Brahmin, we should make common cause with Dalits, and Shudras. There should be laws against caste discrimination, corporate trainings about bigotry from “people who claim to be Brahmin”, use of the term “Brahminsplain”, public service announcements about Brahmin trafficking slaves from India, etc. The Brahmin would have a meltdown.

    Replies: @CCG, @CCG

    Non-Hindus also need to know how Hindus really see them:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mleccha

  76. I’m happy for Christians to follow their moral beliefs as long as they don’t try to impose them on me

    Your laws are going to be inspired by someone’s ‘moral beliefs’. Get over it.

  77. @AnotherDad
    @JohnnyWalker123


    The Republican party worships Jewish ‘Brahmins.’
    The Democratic party worships Gays/Trans & Black ‘Brahmins.’

    Republicans think the Democrats are ‘anti-Semitic’ heretics.
    Democrats think that the Republicans are ‘racist’ & ‘homophobic’ heretics.
     
    Oh please.

    The Democrat party is the Jewish party--Jewish minoritarian party. Jews fund it. They provide the ideology--minoritarianism enforced by the super-state and neoliberal globalism for Wall Street. They write its propaganda. They staff it.

    Blacks are simply their pawns. The black story--slavery!, Jim Crow!, racism!--is the core minoritarian narrative. The justification for seizing America from the evil white gentiles who built it. And blacks are a vote bank. Granted they are unruly pawns ... but pawns.

    If blacks were not a vote bank for the Democrats--for Jewish minoritarian globalism--black criminality would be denounced as violent sociopathy, fit to be tossed out of society; not pandered to. Blacks would be a couple of orders of magnitude less salient. Blackety, black, black, black would be non-existent. Blacks have power only because the Democrats--the Jewish minoritarian globalism party--can not win without them.


    Yeah, some Evangelical Protestants have some bizarro Jew thing going on. AFAICT having to do with Israel, loving the Bible and last days prophecy. Some leftists or muslims criticizing Israel or blacks going off script say how they actually perceive Jews ... and some lame Republicans yap away with a Dems Real Racists anti-Semites. It's not even pathetic.

    (Evangelical Protestants please repeat after me: "American Jews do not love you. They are not even loyal to you simply as fellow Americans. They think you are stupid snake handling hayseeds who need to be replaced.")

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Gaius Gracchus, @Art Deco

    Jews fund it.

    Jews account for about 2% of the population. It’s not likely they’re the sole funding source of the Democratic Party.

    • Agree: Clyde
  78. @anon
    @Chris Renner

    gunfire emanating from a vehicle

    Sounds quantum!

    Schroendingers vehicle emanates gunfire, but you can't know who is in it.

    Replies: @Clyde

    Schroendingers vehicle emanates gunfire, but you can’t know who is in it.

    Hahhaha! I love it. The most passive of passive voices for mindless black violence and gunfire. Of the spray and pray kind of course.

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