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Handel’s Messiah is a rare work of high art that most people enjoy and a large number have actually performed in. Not surprisingly, Canadians are worked up over what Handel’s Messiah has to do with George Floyd in the same way that Canadians decided that the topic of “Rembrandt in Amsterdam” required repeated references to Turtle Island.

From MSN:

Handel’s ‘Messiah’ today: How classical music is contending with its colonial past and present

Nina Penner, Assistant Professor of Music, Brock University and Caryl Clark, Professor of Musicology, Faculty of Music, University of Toronto 2021-12-23

No work of western classical music is more closely associated with the Christmas season than German-born composer George Frideric Handel’s Messiah, which premiered in 1742. …

Even before the global Black Lives Matter protests, a 2018 report written for the non-profit Orchestras Canada by writer and arts consultant Soraya Peerbaye and violinist and ethnomusicologist Parmela Attariwala documents “systemic inequity and coloniality in Canadian orchestras,” ranging from orchestras’ leadership and governance structures to their repertoire and working methods. Music scholars have also been grappling with the colonial legacy of classical music, including Handel’s investments in the slave trade. …

How these two Canadian companies chose to respond to our contemporary context of anti-racist calls when interpreting Messiah provides an opportunity to have a conversation about how performers and audiences of western classical music can engage more fully in anti-colonial and anti-racist work.

To these questions, we, two white settler scholars

To claim the identity of a white settler scholar, should you have to have personally busted sod? For example, the closest I ever came to settling the American West was growing up in ranch house (on a culdesac).

, bring our combined research expertise in music of the 18th century and how indie opera companies in Canada are helping works from the past speak to contemporary issues. One of us (Nina) is involved in a project, “Exploring New Collaborative Models in Indigenous-led Opera in Canada.” …

Against the Grain Theatre’s new interpretation of Messiah, Messiah/Complex, hoped to support Indigenous and underrepresented voices within their mandate of presenting familiar pieces “in innovative ways and in unusual venues.” They decided to present Handel’s orchestral music as originally written, to be performed by the Toronto Symphony Orchestra, but they hired all Indigenous, Black or racialized singer soloists, 12 in total.

Joel Ivany, AtG’s founder and artistic director, partnered with Reneltta Arluk, director of Akpik Theatre and of Indigenous Arts at the Banff Centre for Arts and Creativity to co-direct the production. Ivany has relayed that artists were invited to choose the interpretive frame and language for their performances. The film features segments in Arabic, Dene, English, Inuktitut, Inuttitut, French and Southern Tutchone.

… a New York Times headline on writer Dan Bilefsky’s story declared Handel’s work “freed from history’s bonds.”

Another production based on Handel’s work, Electric Messiah by Soundstreams was billed as “a full-length music video that reimagines Handel’s classic for today’s world” and “brings the past to life in a fresh way that reflects the city we live in.”

In keeping with Soundstreams’s mandate to showcase the work of living composers, the company made minimal changes to the texts. Instead, the artists fit these texts with new music with influences from electronic dance music, pop, and hip hop.

We’ll keep Handel’s words but replace Handel’s music! What could go wrong? Are you saying we can’t come up with just as good music as Handel? But we’re diverse!

… Classical music’s colonial legacy
In Peerbaye and Attariwala’s Orchestras Canada report, they call on Canadian orchestras “to create non-hierarchical environments where the artistic inquiries of Indigenous artists and artists of colour can take place.” Engaging in “wider conversations about the experiences of Indigenous people, people of colour, and other equity-seeking communities” will enable orchestras to “cultivate equal and reciprocal relationships that meaningfully support current artistic inquiries.”

These recommendations are echoed in Hungry Listening: Resonant Theory for Indigenous Sound Studies, a recent book by Stó:lō scholar and artist Dylan Robinson. He notes that the problem with including more diverse artists and traditions, without altering existing ways of working, is that even the “best intentions of integration continue to reinforce and maintain the hierarchical dominance of art music as the genre to which other music must conform.”

Equitable collaborations with musicians in other traditions are going to involve working in new ways. Robinson also recommends foregrounding the irreconcilable nature of different musical traditions. Allowing these differences to be heard might foster greater openness to the notion that reconciliation cannot be achieved through Indigenous “inclusion” in existing colonial models.

… Nêhiyaw-Michif (Cree-Métis) baritone Jonathon Adams described their performance as a “commentary on what it means to be Two-Spirit and Indigenous in Alberta.” The performance juxtaposed shots of an oil refinery with the surrounding lands and waters of their homeland.

AtG featured singers outside of the western classical tradition, several of whom are also songwriters or composers. However, their compositional skills were not showcased. AtG’s decision to have the Toronto Symphony Orchestra supply the backing tracks may suggest that, in addressing the industry’s prevailing whiteness, nothing about the sound of western classical music need change — that all that is required is to employ more Indigenous, Black and racialized artists. But this approach ignores critiques of how the sounds and values of classical music can “constitute a structural barrier to diversification,” as noted by Chris Jenkins, violist, musicologist and associate dean at Oberlin Conservatory.

Agency to singers and musicians
Soundstreams gave singers and musicians more agency with respect to the music. Adam Scime, composer and music director for the 2020 edition of Electric Messiah, notes that they invite the musicians involved in each iteration to “bring their own voice to sculpt the project” and that they “give everyone equal collaborative footing.”

Equal collaborative footing with Handel.

In keeping with Robinson’s recommendations, individual artists in Electric Messiah maintained sovereignty over their segments. Meanwhile viewers are encouraged to appreciate the differences between, for example, SlowPitchSound’s turntablism, Métis and French-Canadian composer Ian Cusson’s O Death, O Grave, and Scime’s “Hallelujah” chorus reimagined as a beach dance party. In so doing, Soundstreams not only explored new, more equitable ways of working together but the sonic results questioned the hegemony of the western classical tradition. …

The authors do not work for, consult, own shares in or receive funding from any company or organisation that would benefit from this article, and have disclosed no relevant affiliations beyond their academic appointment.

 

 
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  1. This shit is hilarious.

    I’ll bet these commie fools actually believe they are as good as Handel, in the same way the female “rangers” and “marines” think they are just as tough and badass as their male colleagues who didn’t get the thumb on the scale.

    • Agree: Old Prude
  2. Handel’s Messiah was written to celebrate the Incarnation of the living God in the body of a child, a child who would grow up to be a man Who died on the Cross and in dying redeem the sins of all mankind.

    But it turns out that, even more important than that, is who gets to play what parts and who gets the credit for them.

  3. Does the Indigenous part include torture of prisoners, use of slavery, and cannibalism?

  4. To claim the identity of a white settler scholar, should you have to have personally busted sod?

    The last sentence from Parmela Attariwala’s bio at the Esker Foundation, which seems to pay for this kind of thing in Calgary:

    “Since 2019, she has been living, with gratitude, on the unceded lands of the Coast Salish peoples.”

    PBS’s Molly of Denial features short interviews with children from around the continent. These often mention the tribe which preceded the settlers where the kid lives– Massachusett, Eno, etc. Not as annoying as the Canadian practice– yet– but still…

    Inuktitut, Inuttitut

    What Canada needs is an Inuktitut-Inuttitut Institute. The latter is spoken in Labrador, which brings up dog breeds again. How come Canada’s newest province is honored with two breed names? Is there a single breed named for a US state or another province? Or is all we have the “American Bully”?

    SlowPitchSound’s turntablism

    That’s a bit pretentious for what a disc jockey does.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Reg Cæsar

    I assume she is a descendant of this Sikh warrior and so, either an immigrant, or married to one.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sham_Singh_Atariwala
    Sham Singh Attariwala (1790 - 10 February 1846) was a general of the Sikh Empire ... Upon his death, his wife Mai Dasi committed sati (self-immolation) in her bridal dress.
     
    I guess the kids didn't have to do that, so the line must have survived.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar


    Inuktitut, Inuttitut
     
    Well, we got Indianapolis, Indiana.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Reg Cæsar, @Odin

    , @tyrone
    @Reg Cæsar


    Is there a single breed named for a US state
     
    ........Carolina dog.......but my favorite is cracker cattle ....crackers being the wonderful people that that settled Florida and claimed them .
    , @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    Can we get some Coast Salish people to demand she get the fuck out?

    , @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar


    “Since 2019, she has been living, with gratitude, on the unceded lands of the Coast Salish peoples.”
     
    This is a sort of ritual thing for libs in Canada now, like signing your letters Heil Hitler! or saying "in the year of our Lord". If it was original it would be sort of creative but it's not - they all just copy each other's bowing and scraping.

    If I were a Coast Salish person, this would just annoy me more (but it's not about the Coast Salish people, it's about virtue signaling to other Goodwhites). If you are living on my "unceded lands" then how aboot you give me the deed to your condo in Vancouver, the one with the nice quartz countertops and a decent view of the harbor, eh? What, you're not prepared to do that? Then go screw yourself and your empty gestures.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @AnotherDad, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Reg Cæsar


    “Since 2019, she has been living, with gratitude, on the unceded lands of the Coast Salish peoples.”
     
    This is not just a ritual thing in Canada, as Jack D pointed out. It is becoming a ritual in the US too.

    This even broke into the news last year when on a zoom call, a bunch of Department of the Interior employees all started out by saying what tribes lands they lived on. I guess this was done to highlight just how woke the new Brandon administration was going to be. Of course the Democrats still really don't care about Indians.

    Isn't acknowledging that they live on stolen land make it worse? Aren't they just straight-up colonists themselves at that point? If they really think the land is stolen, why don't they get the Hell off of it?

    Replies: @Charlotte

    , @James J O'Meara
    @Reg Cæsar


    Inuktitut, Inuttitut
     
    This reminds me, back in grad school in Canada, I had a classmate who put himself through college (which was dirt cheap back then, anyway) by working as an air traffic controller for 6 months, then quitting and living on unemployment for six months as he attended classes. The market for competent air traffic controllers was so tight you could just quit and expect them to beg you to come back, over and over.

    So part of his lore was that if you screwed up you might get assigned to some airport in the Yukon somewhere, called "Tuktillitiuttuk" or some such thing that I can't remember the spelling of, and google is no help; ring a bell anyone?

    So that became our way to say someone had f*cked up: "They'll be sending him to Tuktillitiuttuk".

    Replies: @Canadian Observer

  5. Handel’s Messiah, inasmuch as it is the King James Bible set to Baroque music, is pretty much the best single embodiment of Western Civilization.

    • Agree: Old Prude
  6. No work of western classical music is more closely associated with the Christmas

    Sfx: rude buzzer

    You just said the magic word, and all the rest is just window dressing.

  7. Handel’s orchestral music as originally written, to be performed by the Toronto Symphony Orchestra

    The (no doubt unionized) TSO is on life support: It receives \$5.5M (Cdn) each year in government grants (\$30M budget). At the top-10 symphonies, in the US (probably all of them tax funded), the music director makes around \$1-2M. That’s down from a few years earlier, but of course orchestra patrons were dying off even before Covid.

    The authors do not .. receive funding from any .. organisation that would benefit from this article

    Brock U and U of Toronto are both government colleges. The profsters are tax leeches. The article is yet another, tendentious piece for more government.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Abolish_public_education

    That kind of Non profits aren’t unionized. Half their workforce are usually college students putzing about for college credits. The rest are low wage.

    Some non profits like the minions of Satan Ford Foundation Woods Tides Carnegie etc pay their employees exceedingly well. But I don’t think any of them are unionized.

  8. The text of the Messiah was compiled by Handel’s collaborator Charles Jennens exclusively from the King James Version of the Bible. So a version using just the text should clearly be credited to Jennens and not the German-speaking composer. Using Handel’s name is continuing the writers’ legacy of white settler appropriation.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @S Johnson

    That was my reaction also, how could they not understand the text is from the Bible? Do they understand what the lyrics mean and what the purpose was for composing Messiah? I see from their set list one of the selections they chose was "All We Like Sheep Have Gone Astray." How fitting.

  9. writer and arts consultant Soraya Peerbaye

    She was born to Mauritians in London– that cold, flat, boring London between Detroit and Buffalo. Where J Philippe Rushton was exiled.

    Nêhiyaw-Michif (Cree-Métis) baritone Jonathon Adams

    Jonathon— the bathroom race! He should change it to Ta-Nêhiyaw Cree-Métis, and get all kinds of grants in the US.

    a “commentary on what it means to be Two-Spirit and Indigenous in Alberta.”

    Canada’s Supreme Court has been more successful at imposing Two-Spirit Marriage on their Indigenous than ours has:

    Same-sex marriage is performed and recognized by law in all fifty states of the USA and in the District of Columbia, in all overseas territories except American Samoa, and in all tribal nations that do not have their own marriage laws, as well as in most nations that do. The largest of the dozen or so known exceptions among the federal reservations are Navajo and Gila River, and the largest among the shared-sovereignty Oklahoma Tribal Statistical Areas are the Creek, Choctaw, Chickasaw and Citizen Potawatomi. These polities ban same-sex marriage and do not recognize marriages from other jurisdictions, though members may still marry under state law and be accorded all the rights of marriage under state and federal law.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage#cite_ref-usa_59-0

    Natural ability without education has more often attained to glory and virtue than education without natural ability. -Cicero, statesman, orator, writer (106-43 B.C)

    • Replies: @LP5
    @Reg Cæsar

    The Canadian exemplar of excrescence can't be blown off too soon through the orifice of modern media and its explosive diarrhea of wokeness.
    Now, back to your Saturday programming.

    , @Peter D. Bredon
    @Reg Cæsar

    Natural ability without education has more often attained to glory and virtue than education without natural ability. -Cicero, statesman, orator, writer (106-43 B.C)

    That would be an excellent comeback to have on hand for those tiresomely frequent occurrences of the "people with at least some level of college education support" Biden, Democrats, open borders, compulsory vaxx, etc. or the corresponding "Trump etc. most popular among those without college."

  10. “to create non-hierarchical environments where the artistic inquiries of Indigenous artists and artists of colour can take place.” Engaging in “wider conversations about the experiences of Indigenous people, people of colour, and other equity-seeking communities” will enable orchestras to “cultivate equal and reciprocal relationships that meaningfully support current artistic inquiries.”

    Surely – and this is actually just a minor example – the paramount tale for our times has to be “the Emperor`s New Clothes”.

    Children should be taught it and told that the tale of the Emperor and his “clothes” is a metaphor for the academic world.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Auld Alliance

    Auld, thank you for your comment and to those who don't understand the term, what you high lighted is called "Word Salad." Thank you again.

  11. The reality of major performance groups is that it ain’t good the audience will stop coming. Thanks to COVID, a very large percentage of the audience already isn’t coming. A lot of the audience for classical music tends to be on the older side that’s most vulnerable to COVID, anyway. They aren’t showing up. And I would guess that they’re starting to wonder whether their audience size will ever return to pre-COVID levels.

    The other reality is that for many orchestras and theaters a very large percentage of their budget – perhaps even an absolute majority – comes from government grants, corporate grants, and from foundations. So they’re basically being subsidized to produce shit. Eventually those funders will catch on, but it may take a while.

    One major, already very woke theatre in my city got even more woke after the overdose of St George the Prophet of Floyd’s (Peace and Fentanyl Be Upon Him). They decided to make at least half their cast minority (though magically all but one of their full-time staff is still pasty white). They ended selling far less than half their seats. They responded by making all of their seating general admission, so that no one can see online how shitty their ticket sales are.

    • Replies: @eded
    @Wilkey

    "reality is that for many orchestras and theaters a very large percentage of their budget – perhaps even an absolute majority – comes from government grants"

    This is especially true in Canada where Canadian culture is heavily government subsidized and Canadian content is mandated. The old SCTV skit "Bob and Doug Mackenzie" was a spoof of Canadian mandated "Cancon". The difference today is that there are heavy handed diversity mandates included in Canadian cultural subsidies.

    There are artists that fit certain quotas that receive funding to produce work that is then put on the CBC streaming service, CBC GEM, that nobody watches.

    One problem with Canadian culture is that every English-Canadian artist with real talent heads to the US leaving behind mediocrities who live off government subsidies.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Etruscan Film Star

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Wilkey

    They decided to make at least half their cast minority.... They ended selling far less than half their seats.

    To fight racism, the management decided to cast on the basis of racial equity rather than ability.
    That half as many people showed up to watch the performance shows the need to increase efforts to fight racism.

    Is this what they call a feedback loop?

    Replies: @Alfa158

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Wilkey


    So they’re basically being subsidized to produce shit.
     
    Let's see how that strategy worked out for Netflix (NFLX):

    https://yhoo.it/35eYw0d

    Oh my....that escalated quickly!
  12. Somewhat OT:

    Can an Equation to Help Determine Kidney Health Be Racist?

    https://undark.org/2022/01/19/can-an-equation-to-help-determine-kidney-health-be-racist/

    An Amhara Ethiopian immigrant medical student at UC Davis, whose forebears are from an African country that was occupied for a mere few years by Italy in the 1930s and 1940s, and was never colonized, raises issues about equations going back to “slavery days.”

    “Racism is very obviously present in a lot of ‘objective’ data in medicine,” she says.

    “It goes back to slavery days where you would buy Black men based on their muscles,” she recalls saying. “I asked, why did we accept that, and why do we still continue to use it? It affects how Black folks get new kidneys, and that is, to me, horrific.”

    • Replies: @Tono Bungay
    @PiltdownMan

    Thanks, Piltdown Man. Racism is rampant in nephrology, alas, just like everywhere else. Glad to see those Ethiopian immigrants telling truth to the colonizing patriarchal white-supremacist doctors! Let's welcome millions more immigrants to tell us how bad we are! Yay!

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @PiltdownMan

    Pilt, thank you, my agita meter is on full blast today. Blacks need kidneys? Start harvesting them from all the dead black bodies that are piling up in American cities. Offer a cash payment for a fresh kill and watch how quickly momma says.."You ain't be trying to save his ass? We want that cash." Enjoy your day.

    , @Ralph L
    @PiltdownMan

    Labs take race into account when calculating kidney function, since historically, even healthy AA had slightly worse results.

    In September 2021, the NFK and ASN task force released a report suggesting that these equations overestimated GFR in African American people [high score good] and, to a lesser extent, non-African American people. For this reason, they recommend using a new 2021 CKD-EPI creatinine equation to calculate eGFR, which excludes ethnicity as a factor.

    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @PiltdownMan

    I saw Burning Spear perform at the Denver Zoo and you could hear the lions roaring between songs. It was fantastic. Who knew black supremacist dance music could be so much fun?

    , @Alden
    @PiltdownMan

    Many men are still selected for their muscles. Soldiers sailors police sheriff’s prison guards San Francisco library guards firemen nurses paramedics other medics furniture movers farm and construction workers gardeners deliverymen warehouse workers store shelf stockers roofers iron workers welders. America would be a much better place if there were more muscle jobs. Instead of idiot intelligentsia jobs.

    I tried but just couldn’t read the nonsensical babbling. About how slavery and indigenous people relate to Handel’s music. Or how Handel oppressed POCs. By C I don’t mean color.

  13. One of the earliest consensus points of the pickup artist subculture was that Canada was pretty much a waste of time. A video was one of several illustrations of this: a large number of couples walking down the urban street, almost every single one Canadian male and East Asian female.
    ————
    Hear me now and believe me later, it is altogether fitting and proper that the governator emeritus of California plow his SUV into the little babycar Prius of a young female motorist. She and her ridiculous girlycar should not have been on the road, they should have been in the gym and the custom shop, making better versions of themselves. Then maybe you will not get crashed into.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @J.Ross

    A true MAN OF UNZ. Not only did you dance with joy when Tessa Majors was murdered but now you cheer when Schwarzenegger, a man seriously injured another driver, a woman and smashed two other cars.

    Schwarzenegger tried to make a left turn against a red light in heavy traffic in a very busy intersection. I hope some a$$hole in a much bigger car than yours makes a left turn against a red light soon and seriously injures you. You’re homosexual aren’t you? Only a homo would be happy a man seriously injured a woman while arrogantly making an illegal left turn. The woman was driving correctly. Schwarzenegger was violating the traffic laws. Go to hell you woman hating POS.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @J.Ross

  14. This is probably the best example I’ve seen yet of a research paper-bot or Woke Mad Libs.

    Even before the global Black Lives Matter protests

    Dropping in the mandatory non sequitur.

    “systemic inequity and coloniality in _______” ranging from _______ leadership and governance structures to their repertoire and working methods. _______ scholars have also been grappling with the colonial legacy of _______

    How these two Canadian companies chose to respond to our contemporary context of anti-racist calls when interpreting _______ provides an opportunity to have a conversation about how _______ can engage more fully in anti-colonial and anti-racist work.

    hoped to support Indigenous and underrepresented voices within their mandate of presenting familiar _______ “in innovative ways and in unusual venues.”

    they call on Canadian _______ “to create non-hierarchical environments where the _______ inquiries of Indigenous _______ and _______ of colour can take place.” Engaging in “wider conversations about the experiences of Indigenous people, people of colour, and other equity-seeking communities” will enable _______ to “cultivate equal and reciprocal relationships that meaningfully support current _______ inquiries.”

    Etc., etc., etc.

    All of these endeavors speak of replacing current “governance structures” with “non-hierarchical environments,” but of course the authors have their own ideas about what sort of order will replace the status quo, namely gibs to “equity-seeking communities.” “Equitable collaborations with musicians in other traditions are going to involve working in new ways… reconciliation cannot be achieved through Indigenous ‘inclusion’ in existing colonial models.” This is simply lightly-coded Marxism and they are getting their way.

  15. @Reg Cæsar

    To claim the identity of a white settler scholar, should you have to have personally busted sod?
     
    The last sentence from Parmela Attariwala's bio at the Esker Foundation, which seems to pay for this kind of thing in Calgary:

    "Since 2019, she has been living, with gratitude, on the unceded lands of the Coast Salish peoples."

    PBS's Molly of Denial features short interviews with children from around the continent. These often mention the tribe which preceded the settlers where the kid lives-- Massachusett, Eno, etc. Not as annoying as the Canadian practice-- yet-- but still...

    Inuktitut, Inuttitut
     
    What Canada needs is an Inuktitut-Inuttitut Institute. The latter is spoken in Labrador, which brings up dog breeds again. How come Canada's newest province is honored with two breed names? Is there a single breed named for a US state or another province? Or is all we have the "American Bully"?

    SlowPitchSound’s turntablism
     
    That's a bit pretentious for what a disc jockey does.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Achmed E. Newman, @tyrone, @AndrewR, @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @James J O'Meara

    I assume she is a descendant of this Sikh warrior and so, either an immigrant, or married to one.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sham_Singh_Atariwala
    Sham Singh Attariwala (1790 – 10 February 1846) was a general of the Sikh Empire … Upon his death, his wife Mai Dasi committed sati (self-immolation) in her bridal dress.

    I guess the kids didn’t have to do that, so the line must have survived.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @PiltdownMan

    Isn't an Atari-Wallah someone who sells you video consoles?


    My favourite Indian names are the Parsi occupational ones like Engineer and Contractor. Farookh Engineer was a great Indian cricketer. But most Parsi names are related to ancestral location, apparently.

    https://parsikhabar.net/history/parsi-surnames-the-places-they-are-derived-from/13219/

  16. This filibuster business could end up being the spark that lights a real fire. It should be, anyway. From today’s WSJ editorial:

    [MORE]

    Opinion Review & Outlook

    What the Senate Filibuster Assault Means
    Wednesday’s narrow vote changed Senate races, starting in 2022.

    Washington wisdom once held that while Sens. Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema were the public faces of Democratic reluctance to breaking the Senate filibuster, others in the caucus quietly supported the duo. But on Wednesday night, 48 out of 50 Senate Democrats voted to use the “nuclear option” in an attempt to overturn election laws in most states.

    That means the partisan abolition of the Senate’s 60-vote requirement for most legislation is no longer an abstraction. It’s an institutional Democratic Party position—a trigger that Majority Leader Chuck Schumer has committed to pull as soon as he has 50 votes and a co-partisan as Vice President. Democrats may have failed to ram their legislation through this week, but they have changed the nature of the U.S. Senate merely by trying to make it a majoritarian body for the first time. The fallout should start in this year’s midterms in competitive states.

    ***

    Mr. Schumer brought partisan voting-rules legislation to the floor Wednesday despite the insistence of Sens. Sinema and Manchin that they wouldn’t change Senate rules to allow it to pass with only 50 votes. Democrats then embarked on a flight of procedural fantasy, claiming they could prevail by demanding only a “talking filibuster”—a meaningless distinction as their version would still guarantee the legislation could be rammed through.

    They lost 48 to 52, but the paucity of Democratic dissenters is astonishing given recent Senate history. Dianne Feinstein, the senior Senator from California, went along after defending the filibuster well into the new Congress. She said last June that she might scrap the filibuster if “democracy were in jeopardy,” but “I don’t see it being in jeopardy right now.”

    Chris Coons, the Delaware Senator who cultivates a bipartisan reputation, also voted to destroy the filibuster. In 2017 he led a coalition of 32 Democrats declaring they are “united in their determination” to maintain it. Twenty-nine GOP Senators also signed Mr. Coons’s letter. That’s right: While only two Democrats still back the filibuster under Mr. Biden, more than half of the Republican caucus supported it as a guardrail on their own majority under Donald Trump.

    Arizona Sen. Mark Kelly, who had been noncommittal on the issue, also fell in line, though he faces a competitive election this November. He likely fears a Democratic primary challenge, but his vote will put new issues at play in the general election. Now that he’s committed to torch Senate rules on a partisan basis, a simple Democratic majority could add states to the U.S. or pack the Supreme Court.

    When rules constrain Senate partisanship, voters in swing states can view candidates as independent figures rather than partisan foot-soldiers. Now that changes: To elect even a 50-50 Senate with a Democratic President could be to authorize much of the progressive agenda.

    This will be a hard perception to shake on the 2022 campaign trail for Maggie Hassan in New Hampshire and Michael Bennet in Colorado, both of whom also signed Mr. Coons’s 2017 letter, and Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada. Raphael Warnock of Georgia benefited in his 2021 runoff election from Mr. Manchin’s 2020 promise that he wouldn’t eliminate the filibuster in a 50-50 Senate. Now voters need to keep in mind that Mr. Manchin’s commitment means nothing if Democrats pick up two seats in 2022.

    As for Republicans, the next GOP Senate majority will now be under much more pressure to eliminate the filibuster as a pre-emptive procedural strike. Populist Senators will point to this week’s vote to say that Democrats are planning to change the rules as soon as they get back into power. GOP leader Mitch McConnell and other institutionalists will have more trouble talking them down.

    The intellectuals pushing to kill the filibuster claim the Senate’s structure is biased against Democrats, and may lock them out of power for a decade. That claim is wildly exaggerated—weren’t Democrats eyeing a 53 or 54 seat majority in 2020? But if it were true, then it would be even more short-sighted to dismantle protections for the minority party.

    ***

    Speaking of short-sighted, Sens. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are already opening the door to primary challenges to Sens. Manchin and Sinema. Good luck keeping the seat with another candidate in West Virginia, where Mr. Trump won by 39 points. Progressives want to take revenge on a moderate Democrat by easing the path to GOP Senate majorities.

    This week’s filibuster vote undermines checks and balances in the U.S. political system. With the rise of straight-ticket voting, Presidents are increasingly elected with congressional majorities. The limitations on what those majorities can do is rapidly attenuating, and if voters don’t send a contrary message, the result will be a combustible mix of greater polarization, partisan brinkmanship and heightened election stakes.

    WSJ Opinion: Biden’s Demagogic Voting Rights Speech

  17. I made a goodwill gesture of trying to understand what was being said but I gave up. I can only read it in monodromatic high pitch pansexualese, which is stressful.

    And what is “coloniality”?

    Meanwhile on Amazon (such a colonial company name indeed!)

    Bomber reviews:

    “In this brilliant and wide-ranging work, Dylan Robinson refuses to write about anything. Instead he demonstrates what it means at the practical, ethical, and political levels to write relationally with other living beings, including music, sound, belongings, languages, lands, ancestors, and readers. In method and content, Hungry Listening is a challenge to settler colonial sensory and political orders as well as a powerful affirmation of Indigenous thought, practice, and art.”

    —Beth Piatote, author of The Beadworkers and Domestic Subjects

    “Hungry Listening is a necessary and creative confrontation of the consequences of settler colonialism for Indigenous music and sound territories. Offering a robust critique of inclusionary performance as settler mis-audation, Dylan Robinson forwards a transformative politics of listening, a practice of guest listening that refuses capture and certainty. At once playful and intensely serious, Hungry Listening experiments with affective event scores and forms of direct address to allow readers to imagine approaches to visiting with Indigenous sound and performance.”

    —Eve Tuck, University of Toronto

    “Dylan Robinson employs a xwélméxw (Stó:lo) reading, listening, and thinking practice to enact a decolonial critique of the ‘sonic encounters’ between Indigenous vocal traditions and Western classical and popular music. Hungry Listening, by one of the field’s most generous, perceptive, visionary, and generative scholars, will be a game changer in the areas of Indigenous, sound, and performance studies.”

    —Michelle Raheja, author of Reservation Reelism: Redfacing, Visual Sovereignty, and Representations of Native Americans in Film

    “All this useless knowledge!!”

    — The Biologist in “Annihilation”

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @El Dato

    I was at a talk at our local Pohunk library given by a young local academic who was doing "research" into local folk tales. She talked about how different tales had different "tellability", which was a new piece of jargon for me. The entire talk was filled with this serious sounding twaddle, and most of the audience was baffled.

  18. On a related note, from The Guardian (aka your preeminent source of NBA news):

    The Dallas Mavericks are consistently white in a black league. Why?

    The gist of the story: how dare the Mavs have more than one or two white players on their roster? That’s not the NBA way!

    The opening paragraph, which gives you the flavor:

    In 2020, the NBA was 74.2% black and 16.9% white. It seems every decade, the white NBA player becomes less relevant. Yet one franchise has often kept the dream of mediocre white guys alive: the Dallas Mavericks. In 15 of the last 21 Mavs seasons, there were three or more white players on the 12-man active roster. In more than half of those 15 seasons there were at least four white players, not to mention at least two starting white players. The Mavericks, in the literal sense, do not look like the rest of the league.

    • Thanks: for-the-record
    • Replies: @Charon
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    These are the practice rounds for total extermination. They show no signs of embarrassment at declaring that three or four whites out of twelve is too many.

    A lot of white people--even here--imagine that the hate will abate and the proverbial pendulum will swing back again.

    They imagine this even in the complete absence of evidence in support of their theory.

    , @AndrewR
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    If Cuban and the Mavs are racist enough to prefer mediocre white players to good black players, then that will obviously be reflected in the team's success or lack thereof, thus lowering ticket sales and hitting Cuban in the pocket. As libertarians have always pointed out, irrational racial prejudice can be very detrimental to a business in a free market. There are hardly any fundamental human rights issues at stake when we are talking about which sportsball players a billionaire wants to give multi-million dollar contracts to.

    There is no longer any doubt that the mainstream left is motivated by nothing more than the desire to extirpate white people. The question is what can be done about it?

    , @ScarletNumber
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Well the Mavericks are the defending Southwest Division champions and won an NBA championship* in the last decade, so they must be doing something right. In addition, they are literally Mavericks; it's right in the name! Finally, while owner Mark Cuban lucked into his fortune, he is a solid businessman overall.

    *The NBA is the only major North American sports league that does not have a brand name for its championship

    , @cosMICjester
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Wow the seething antipathy towards whites from a Brit rag in a country that's only 3% black is quite enlightening & enraging. I'd love to tell Lee Escobedo to go F himself but I'm sure he'd enjoy it being he's LatinX which I think means he loves c0 ck.

    , @Barnard
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    I quit following the NBA several years ago so I didn't know which other white guys the Mavs had besides Luca Doncic, so I checked. It is better or worse for the Guardian that none of the white guys currently on the team are Americans? A quick check of the rosters of the other top teams it looks like most of the them have one or two white guys. Is two the acceptable limit?

    , @rebel yell
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    The evolution of black demands:

    Equal rights under the law
    Equal opportunity (not the same as equality under the law) - Head Start, etc
    Equal outcomes - Affirmative action, quotas, etc
    More than equal outcomes - every NBA team must be 74.2% black or more.

    , @Forbes
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    In 2020, the NBA was 74.2% black and 16.9% white. ... In 15 of the last 21 Mavs seasons, there were three or more white players on the 12-man active roster.
     
    So 16.9% turns out to be 2 white players, and Dallas had 3. Someone call the diversity police!

    But then 74.2% turns out to be 9 black players, with a 12 man roster, that leaves a remainder of 1 non-black player.

    While going back 21 years, the proportion of white players was higher than 16.9%--in 2000, white players were 22%.

    What was the point of the article, other than calling white players mediocre...
    , @Colin Wright
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    'In 2020, the NBA was 74.2% black and 16.9% white...'

    That's gotta be a bogus statistic. 74.2 plus 16.9 is 91.1; 8.9% of the NBA is neither black nor white?

    I know there are or were one or two Chinese basketball players...maybe there's a giant Hispanic out there. But it adds up to 8.9%? I don't think so.

    , @possumman
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Not enough Basketball-Americans?

  19. Oh lord, this is too much for me at 4:43am.

    I think Western classical music and art, too, have alot to offer and that it is too bad all kids in school are not given appreciation courses so they have some idea of our many achievements and can take pleasure in our visual and musical creations. We certainly see the value and importance of teaching our history and English language literature to kids and we should give them the great gift of teaching them about our art and music.

    This is what I would like to see art groups do: get the public more educated and involved so attendance of nonelites goes up.

    I cannot imagine all the guilt and Woke talk in this article is of any interest to anybody in Canada who is not already greatly involved in the arts. It is a teeny tiny number of nonwhites getting involved with a very small number of whites.

    As for native people and the arts, I have no idea what they want. Instead of getting more involved with our art and music, doe might rprefer to try to continue on with what to their ancestors ddid.T here will never be any getting away from white people in Western art and mudomc. If we don’t want a world where eventually everything seems the same, it seems like a good idea to try to preserve what other people do and to get them to try new things, too.

    • Disagree: Abolish_public_education
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @notsaying


    We certainly see the value and importance of teaching our history and English language literature to kids
     
    We do?
  20. @The Last Real Calvinist
    On a related note, from The Guardian (aka your preeminent source of NBA news):

    The Dallas Mavericks are consistently white in a black league. Why?

    The gist of the story: how dare the Mavs have more than one or two white players on their roster? That's not the NBA way!

    The opening paragraph, which gives you the flavor:

    In 2020, the NBA was 74.2% black and 16.9% white. It seems every decade, the white NBA player becomes less relevant. Yet one franchise has often kept the dream of mediocre white guys alive: the Dallas Mavericks. In 15 of the last 21 Mavs seasons, there were three or more white players on the 12-man active roster. In more than half of those 15 seasons there were at least four white players, not to mention at least two starting white players. The Mavericks, in the literal sense, do not look like the rest of the league.
     

    Replies: @Charon, @AndrewR, @ScarletNumber, @cosMICjester, @Barnard, @rebel yell, @Forbes, @Colin Wright, @possumman

    These are the practice rounds for total extermination. They show no signs of embarrassment at declaring that three or four whites out of twelve is too many.

    A lot of white people–even here–imagine that the hate will abate and the proverbial pendulum will swing back again.

    They imagine this even in the complete absence of evidence in support of their theory.

  21. Händel’s last impersonation on the Rock ‘n’ roll stage passed away –

    Meatloaf’ soul has flown up – up – up – – –

    ^https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=bat+out+of+hell+meatloaf&view=detail&mid=F9C1F35B96815C1C6E61F9C1F35B96815C1C6E61&FORM=VIRE^

    “…and the last thing I see is my heart – still pounding – – flying out of my body and up in the sky – – – – like a BAT OUT ‘A HELL!…”

    (The back-up or co-singer that chimes in at aroud 3:10 in the video is – unhinged & fancy free (vogelwild (=birdwild) in German) – PAAAAH!

    A bat out of hell – now: Who does not think of Covid?!
    So – Meatloaf had been a propeht then? A man of clearvoyance ‘n’ vision? – – – I: PAAAAH! :I

    • Replies: @Etruscan Film Star
    @Dieter Kief

    Dieter,

    I have never considered clicking the Ignore Commenter button (not even sure what it does -- auto-delete any further remarks from that commenter?). But you are a very special person, with your own form of schizophrenic expression. I am consulting my inner Awards Committee about the possibility of giving you a very special recognition.

  22. This is another example where the ideas of ‘real Canadians don’t exist!’ gets tossed aside. They do, they just aren’t allowed to have collective rights only collective guilt and shame so when somebody articulates the issue of why real Canadians are expected to just keep giving ground and be displaced, they cry ‘real Canadians don’t exist!’ because they’re still scared to say ‘yes you exist and yes we want to displace you and feel only you have no collective rights!’. That might make people wake up to a certain irreconcilable conflict and they may decide to take their own side.

    But when it comes to guilt and shame, they seem to know exactly the biological definition of who are the real Canadians are and the hereditary nature of this guilt and it’s collective nature.

    Similar to the general problem of the kinds of people who say race doesn’t exist being really sure who is the victim of a hate crime.

    And in fairness to Canada almost all wokeness was and continues to be invented by people in America, (Americans dominate the English language internet and when everyone is plugged into the same social media it becomes even more apparent) they just internalise being more progressive and agreeable in contrast to the US due to the US internalising often not being very social democratic or agreeable.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Altai

    If your neighbor starts a meth lab in his house, are you going to try to start a bigger one just to flex on him?

    , @David
    @Altai

    almost all wokeness was and continues to be invented by people in America

    I was attending high school in Parry Sound in 1984 when the CBC sent a Jewish producer and director there to film a TV movie, Hockey Night, written by a Jew. The story is: an unfortunate Jewish woman, recently divorced, relocates to the town, with her [then] teenage heartthrob of a daughter, Megan Follows. The local hockey coach, Jewish, naturally, played by Rick Moranis, recognizes her staggering skills as a goalie, and teaches the backward locals about open-mindedness and gender equality -- in the face of dismissive, chauvinist WASP sponsors who only care about money -- by bringing her into the big game, where, naturally, she triumphs.

    Every aspect of the town was derided and denigrated, and the locals, having welcomed the attention, and assisted the production in countless ways, felt seriously hard done-by when the film aired. No one could understand why a government broadcaster would so unfairly present and critique the town, but one thing was sure: everyone felt a little worse about himself, his town, and his people.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Anonymous, @James J O'Meara

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Altai

    Altai, Canada, where they turn every declarative sentence into a question, eh?

    Replies: @Dube, @JohnnyWalker123

    , @Justvisiting
    @Altai

    Years ago we (Yankees) went to Ottawa while on vacation and visited a bunch of government sites.

    The best part was the fancy restaurant near these areas where I took my wife for lunch. I told her clearly--don't say one word. We are here to listen to neighboring tables and learn what they have to say.

    As I suspected (hoped) the restaurant was full of senior .gov officials and they were talking "shop".
    They viewed the masses with total contempt--cattle that needed to be herded by brilliant "experts" like themselves.

    There is nothing wrong with Canada that guillotines could not fix.

  23. The should exhume Handel, extract a DNA sample, clone him, and then when he’s fully grown, hang him for the racist he is.

  24. @PiltdownMan
    Somewhat OT:


    Can an Equation to Help Determine Kidney Health Be Racist?

    https://undark.org/2022/01/19/can-an-equation-to-help-determine-kidney-health-be-racist/
     

    An Amhara Ethiopian immigrant medical student at UC Davis, whose forebears are from an African country that was occupied for a mere few years by Italy in the 1930s and 1940s, and was never colonized, raises issues about equations going back to "slavery days."

    “Racism is very obviously present in a lot of ‘objective’ data in medicine,” she says.

    “It goes back to slavery days where you would buy Black men based on their muscles,” she recalls saying. “I asked, why did we accept that, and why do we still continue to use it? It affects how Black folks get new kidneys, and that is, to me, horrific.”
     

     

    https://youtu.be/zL3rt6RTqps

    Replies: @Tono Bungay, @Buffalo Joe, @Ralph L, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Alden

    Thanks, Piltdown Man. Racism is rampant in nephrology, alas, just like everywhere else. Glad to see those Ethiopian immigrants telling truth to the colonizing patriarchal white-supremacist doctors! Let’s welcome millions more immigrants to tell us how bad we are! Yay!

  25. Until the plague, I’d been singing the Messiah with a great men’s choral group every Christmas season.

    That choral group has been rendered defunct by the plague.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @Shouting Thomas

    Classical music is actually thriving in my area, at least in less professional settings. This is thanks to the East Asians and the Slavs. The Slavs consider classical music to be a reason for enduring ethnic pride (Tchaikovsky will never die) and the Chinese, in particular, love to learn the violin.

    you come to my house, ST, and I'll sing Messiah with you all day long.

  26. Notice the new woke Canadianism “equity-seeking communities”. I’ve
    seen it a few times in Canadian media.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @eded

    eded, Yes, Oh Canada, so very important in their own minds. I remember sitting in the Thunder Bay, Ontario airport waiting for my flight back to Toronto and reading an op-ed by the TB mayor condeming Trump as a racist xenophobe, and then reading, in the same paper articles about Canada's mistreatment of their Indigenous people. What is that old saying...'Can't see the nose on their own face.'

  27. For example, the closest I ever came to settling the American West was growing up in ranch house (on a culdesac).

    I also grew up in a ranch house on a cul-de-sac named Sierra Vista Drive, but later in life my step-father had a ranch in Texas.

  28. Nina Penner, Assistant Professor of Music, Brock University and Caryl Clark, Professor of Musicology, Faculty of Music, University of Toronto

    Yeah, I’m guessing that these two just don’t want to practice their scales anymore. I wonder if they even know how to play piano… got into the program on softball scholarships, maybe?

    • LOL: Forbes
  29. @Wilkey
    The reality of major performance groups is that it ain't good the audience will stop coming. Thanks to COVID, a very large percentage of the audience already isn't coming. A lot of the audience for classical music tends to be on the older side that's most vulnerable to COVID, anyway. They aren't showing up. And I would guess that they're starting to wonder whether their audience size will ever return to pre-COVID levels.

    The other reality is that for many orchestras and theaters a very large percentage of their budget - perhaps even an absolute majority - comes from government grants, corporate grants, and from foundations. So they're basically being subsidized to produce shit. Eventually those funders will catch on, but it may take a while.

    One major, already very woke theatre in my city got even more woke after the overdose of St George the Prophet of Floyd's (Peace and Fentanyl Be Upon Him). They decided to make at least half their cast minority (though magically all but one of their full-time staff is still pasty white). They ended selling far less than half their seats. They responded by making all of their seating general admission, so that no one can see online how shitty their ticket sales are.

    Replies: @eded, @Harry Baldwin, @The Wild Geese Howard

    “reality is that for many orchestras and theaters a very large percentage of their budget – perhaps even an absolute majority – comes from government grants”

    This is especially true in Canada where Canadian culture is heavily government subsidized and Canadian content is mandated. The old SCTV skit “Bob and Doug Mackenzie” was a spoof of Canadian mandated “Cancon”. The difference today is that there are heavy handed diversity mandates included in Canadian cultural subsidies.

    There are artists that fit certain quotas that receive funding to produce work that is then put on the CBC streaming service, CBC GEM, that nobody watches.

    One problem with Canadian culture is that every English-Canadian artist with real talent heads to the US leaving behind mediocrities who live off government subsidies.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @eded

    This is especially true in Canada where Canadian culture is heavily government subsidized

    There is a Canadian cartoonist, Chester Brown, who must have found favor with the government when he did a graphic novel, Louis Riel, about a hero from Canadian history. His next graphic novel was called Paying for It, and was about his experiences going to a number of different prostitutes. This project was financed with a grant from the Canada Council. You could look it up.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Etruscan Film Star
    @eded


    One problem with Canadian culture is that every English-Canadian artist with real talent heads to the US leaving behind mediocrities who live off government subsidies.
     
    And, presumably, white French-Canadian artists. I don't know if the brilliant pianist Marc-André Hamelin has jacked Canada, but you have to wonder if his talent would have been nurtured if he had grown up in today's Woke culture in our northern neighboring country.
  30. @Reg Cæsar

    To claim the identity of a white settler scholar, should you have to have personally busted sod?
     
    The last sentence from Parmela Attariwala's bio at the Esker Foundation, which seems to pay for this kind of thing in Calgary:

    "Since 2019, she has been living, with gratitude, on the unceded lands of the Coast Salish peoples."

    PBS's Molly of Denial features short interviews with children from around the continent. These often mention the tribe which preceded the settlers where the kid lives-- Massachusett, Eno, etc. Not as annoying as the Canadian practice-- yet-- but still...

    Inuktitut, Inuttitut
     
    What Canada needs is an Inuktitut-Inuttitut Institute. The latter is spoken in Labrador, which brings up dog breeds again. How come Canada's newest province is honored with two breed names? Is there a single breed named for a US state or another province? Or is all we have the "American Bully"?

    SlowPitchSound’s turntablism
     
    That's a bit pretentious for what a disc jockey does.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Achmed E. Newman, @tyrone, @AndrewR, @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @James J O'Meara

    Inuktitut, Inuttitut

    Well, we got Indianapolis, Indiana.

    • Replies: @rebel yell
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Well, we got Indianapolis, Indiana.
     
    These racist names must be changed. How about Indigenous Peopleopolis, Indigenous Peopleana?

    Replies: @Muggles

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Well, we got Indianapolis, Indiana.
     
    And Minneota, Minnesota.

    Sylvania, Pennsylvania rhymes with its Commonwealth. Troy, Illinois. Sedona, Arizona. Blaine, Maine.

    The last was named for James G Blaine, the only major-party presidential candidate who rhymed with his state. Perhaps Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) will repeat the feat one day.

    York, New York is an identity, not a rhyme.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    , @Odin
    @Achmed E. Newman



    Inuktitut, Inuttitut
     
    Well, we got Indianapolis, Indiana.
     
    Yabbut we've had Saskatoon, Saskatchewan since, like, forever.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  31. Nina Penner.

  32. @Reg Cæsar

    To claim the identity of a white settler scholar, should you have to have personally busted sod?
     
    The last sentence from Parmela Attariwala's bio at the Esker Foundation, which seems to pay for this kind of thing in Calgary:

    "Since 2019, she has been living, with gratitude, on the unceded lands of the Coast Salish peoples."

    PBS's Molly of Denial features short interviews with children from around the continent. These often mention the tribe which preceded the settlers where the kid lives-- Massachusett, Eno, etc. Not as annoying as the Canadian practice-- yet-- but still...

    Inuktitut, Inuttitut
     
    What Canada needs is an Inuktitut-Inuttitut Institute. The latter is spoken in Labrador, which brings up dog breeds again. How come Canada's newest province is honored with two breed names? Is there a single breed named for a US state or another province? Or is all we have the "American Bully"?

    SlowPitchSound’s turntablism
     
    That's a bit pretentious for what a disc jockey does.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Achmed E. Newman, @tyrone, @AndrewR, @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @James J O'Meara

    Is there a single breed named for a US state

    ……..Carolina dog…….but my favorite is cracker cattle ….crackers being the wonderful people that that settled Florida and claimed them .

  33. Saw Messiah just before this Christmas at the Walt Disney Concert Hall in Los Angeles. Almost full attendance and it was much better than I expected. It held my attention all two and a half hours.

    But I couldn’t understand the chorus’ lyrics. Once I noticed, I looked carefully and saw that the chorus all wore surgical masks, as mandated by the City.

    What WON’T wokeness ruin?

  34. @Reg Cæsar

    To claim the identity of a white settler scholar, should you have to have personally busted sod?
     
    The last sentence from Parmela Attariwala's bio at the Esker Foundation, which seems to pay for this kind of thing in Calgary:

    "Since 2019, she has been living, with gratitude, on the unceded lands of the Coast Salish peoples."

    PBS's Molly of Denial features short interviews with children from around the continent. These often mention the tribe which preceded the settlers where the kid lives-- Massachusett, Eno, etc. Not as annoying as the Canadian practice-- yet-- but still...

    Inuktitut, Inuttitut
     
    What Canada needs is an Inuktitut-Inuttitut Institute. The latter is spoken in Labrador, which brings up dog breeds again. How come Canada's newest province is honored with two breed names? Is there a single breed named for a US state or another province? Or is all we have the "American Bully"?

    SlowPitchSound’s turntablism
     
    That's a bit pretentious for what a disc jockey does.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Achmed E. Newman, @tyrone, @AndrewR, @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @James J O'Meara

    Can we get some Coast Salish people to demand she get the fuck out?

    • LOL: Right_On
  35. @Shouting Thomas
    Until the plague, I’d been singing the Messiah with a great men’s choral group every Christmas season.

    That choral group has been rendered defunct by the plague.

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    Classical music is actually thriving in my area, at least in less professional settings. This is thanks to the East Asians and the Slavs. The Slavs consider classical music to be a reason for enduring ethnic pride (Tchaikovsky will never die) and the Chinese, in particular, love to learn the violin.

    you come to my house, ST, and I’ll sing Messiah with you all day long.

  36. “Nêhiyaw-Michif (Cree-Métis) baritone Jonathon Adams” is white.

    “Métis and French-Canadian composer Ian Cusson” is white.

    “Stó:lō scholar and artist Dylan Robinson” is white.

    • Thanks: ic1000
  37. by Nina Penner, Assistant Professor of Music, Brock University and Caryl Clark, Professor of Musicology, Faculty of Music, University of Toronto

    On Twitter, Philippe Lemoine has commented on the unfolding spectacle of biologists who joined in criticizing Scientific American‘s defenestration of rraacciisstt E.O. Wilson, but now repent their badthink as the Eye of Sauron focuses on them:

    Useful reminder that academia cannot be saved.

    Applies here too.

  38. Sins of the great, great grandfather.

  39. @The Last Real Calvinist
    On a related note, from The Guardian (aka your preeminent source of NBA news):

    The Dallas Mavericks are consistently white in a black league. Why?

    The gist of the story: how dare the Mavs have more than one or two white players on their roster? That's not the NBA way!

    The opening paragraph, which gives you the flavor:

    In 2020, the NBA was 74.2% black and 16.9% white. It seems every decade, the white NBA player becomes less relevant. Yet one franchise has often kept the dream of mediocre white guys alive: the Dallas Mavericks. In 15 of the last 21 Mavs seasons, there were three or more white players on the 12-man active roster. In more than half of those 15 seasons there were at least four white players, not to mention at least two starting white players. The Mavericks, in the literal sense, do not look like the rest of the league.
     

    Replies: @Charon, @AndrewR, @ScarletNumber, @cosMICjester, @Barnard, @rebel yell, @Forbes, @Colin Wright, @possumman

    If Cuban and the Mavs are racist enough to prefer mediocre white players to good black players, then that will obviously be reflected in the team’s success or lack thereof, thus lowering ticket sales and hitting Cuban in the pocket. As libertarians have always pointed out, irrational racial prejudice can be very detrimental to a business in a free market. There are hardly any fundamental human rights issues at stake when we are talking about which sportsball players a billionaire wants to give multi-million dollar contracts to.

    There is no longer any doubt that the mainstream left is motivated by nothing more than the desire to extirpate white people. The question is what can be done about it?

  40. @Altai
    This is another example where the ideas of 'real Canadians don't exist!' gets tossed aside. They do, they just aren't allowed to have collective rights only collective guilt and shame so when somebody articulates the issue of why real Canadians are expected to just keep giving ground and be displaced, they cry 'real Canadians don't exist!' because they're still scared to say 'yes you exist and yes we want to displace you and feel only you have no collective rights!'. That might make people wake up to a certain irreconcilable conflict and they may decide to take their own side.

    But when it comes to guilt and shame, they seem to know exactly the biological definition of who are the real Canadians are and the hereditary nature of this guilt and it's collective nature.

    Similar to the general problem of the kinds of people who say race doesn't exist being really sure who is the victim of a hate crime.

    And in fairness to Canada almost all wokeness was and continues to be invented by people in America, (Americans dominate the English language internet and when everyone is plugged into the same social media it becomes even more apparent) they just internalise being more progressive and agreeable in contrast to the US due to the US internalising often not being very social democratic or agreeable.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @David, @Buffalo Joe, @Justvisiting

    If your neighbor starts a meth lab in his house, are you going to try to start a bigger one just to flex on him?

  41. The Messiah of George Frideric Handel:
    To it can nothing else hold a candle.
    “That’s not fair!” said the Devil,
    “Drag it down to your level.
    Don’t create for yourself; be a vandal!”

    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    @the one they call Desanex

    On semi-topic (if the topic is woke Canada): I composed this one yesterday, but didn’t want to post it on the by-then-moribund “Rembrandt” thread.

    Of talent, you have not a smidgen;
    What English you speak is just pidgen;
    You blacks from the Congo
    May beat a mean bongo,
    But can’t paint like Rembrandt van Rijn.

    , @James Speaks
    @the one they call Desanex


    The Messiah of George Frideric Handel:
    To it can nothing else hold a candle.
     
    The Oratorio for St Paul
    Also bestows awe
    On those not inclined
    To monkey talk in beastly rhymes
  42. @the one they call Desanex
    The Messiah of George Frideric Handel:
    To it can nothing else hold a candle.
    “That’s not fair!” said the Devil,
    “Drag it down to your level.
    Don’t create for yourself; be a vandal!”

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @James Speaks

    On semi-topic (if the topic is woke Canada): I composed this one yesterday, but didn’t want to post it on the by-then-moribund “Rembrandt” thread.

    Of talent, you have not a smidgen;
    What English you speak is just pidgen;
    You blacks from the Congo
    May beat a mean bongo,
    But can’t paint like Rembrandt van Rijn.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  43. As it’s a slow Saturday, Maybe we can start to put together a new “Rules to live by”.

    I like this as a start

    • LOL: AndrewR
  44. > The film features segments in Arabic, Dene, English, Inuktitut, Inuttitut, French and Southern Tutchone.

    Including Arabic is a deft touch. It signals that Joel Ivany, Reneltta Arluk, and Nina Penner each retain a sense of humor.

    Neo-Bolsheviks can draw inspiration from their forebears.

  45. @Altai
    This is another example where the ideas of 'real Canadians don't exist!' gets tossed aside. They do, they just aren't allowed to have collective rights only collective guilt and shame so when somebody articulates the issue of why real Canadians are expected to just keep giving ground and be displaced, they cry 'real Canadians don't exist!' because they're still scared to say 'yes you exist and yes we want to displace you and feel only you have no collective rights!'. That might make people wake up to a certain irreconcilable conflict and they may decide to take their own side.

    But when it comes to guilt and shame, they seem to know exactly the biological definition of who are the real Canadians are and the hereditary nature of this guilt and it's collective nature.

    Similar to the general problem of the kinds of people who say race doesn't exist being really sure who is the victim of a hate crime.

    And in fairness to Canada almost all wokeness was and continues to be invented by people in America, (Americans dominate the English language internet and when everyone is plugged into the same social media it becomes even more apparent) they just internalise being more progressive and agreeable in contrast to the US due to the US internalising often not being very social democratic or agreeable.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @David, @Buffalo Joe, @Justvisiting

    almost all wokeness was and continues to be invented by people in America

    I was attending high school in Parry Sound in 1984 when the CBC sent a Jewish producer and director there to film a TV movie, Hockey Night, written by a Jew. The story is: an unfortunate Jewish woman, recently divorced, relocates to the town, with her [then] teenage heartthrob of a daughter, Megan Follows. The local hockey coach, Jewish, naturally, played by Rick Moranis, recognizes her staggering skills as a goalie, and teaches the backward locals about open-mindedness and gender equality — in the face of dismissive, chauvinist WASP sponsors who only care about money — by bringing her into the big game, where, naturally, she triumphs.

    Every aspect of the town was derided and denigrated, and the locals, having welcomed the attention, and assisted the production in countless ways, felt seriously hard done-by when the film aired. No one could understand why a government broadcaster would so unfairly present and critique the town, but one thing was sure: everyone felt a little worse about himself, his town, and his people.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @David


    I was attending high school in Parry Sound in 1984 when the CBC sent a Jewish producer and director there to film a TV movie ...

    Every aspect of the town was derided and denigrated, and the locals, having welcomed the attention, and assisted the production in countless ways, felt seriously hard done-by when the film aired.
     

    That's every other Hollyweird production during my entire life.

    "Denigrate the goyim" is apparently their zeroth commandment.

    Yet f0r 70+ now there's a nation--with not just a pleasant Mediterranean climate but actual Mediterranean beaches too--run specifically by Jews for Jews in the land they claim God promised them 3000 years ago, where they can build their own for themselves and their posterity ... yet despite all the continually "rising anti-Semitism" and terrible oppression they face, they just never seem to want tear themselves away from us..

    Turns out middle manning--lawyering, professing, hawking, trading, editorializing, movie-making, policking, bureaucrating ...--in these pleasant and prosperous nations we goyishe kopfs create is actually the core "Jewish value". (Just so long as we remember that we are stupid, oppressive, a*holes and lucky to have them as our betters.)

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Anonymous
    @David

    Similar to those Jesus Camp people, who invited a pair of NYC liberals into their community to make a documentary, completely oblivious to the fact that these people were not their friends.

    , @James J O'Meara
    @David

    "Every aspect of the town was derided and denigrated, and the locals, having welcomed the attention, and assisted the production in countless ways, felt seriously hard done-by when the film aired. No one could understand why a government broadcaster would so unfairly present and critique the town, but one thing was sure: everyone felt a little worse about himself, his town, and his people."

    I've posted this before and elsewhere: this clip from The Gilmore Girls perfectly encapsulates the whole "Jew(ess) hates the goyim town and imagines the worst" trope. The icing on the cake, of course, is that Stars Hollow is preternaturally wholesome, and today would have BLM signs in every store window and on every lawn, (and masks on everyone) yet being a "small town" of goyim it must be a veritable Pottersville.

    https://youtu.be/AltlTz9p4w4

    Replies: @Alden

  46. Hey Steve:

  47. It’s pretty obvious to most people that government is often stuffed with make-work jobs, but academia certainly has it share as well. They aren’t as visible since such a relatively small share of the population is enrolled in or employed by higher ed, but while having some extra paper shufflers at the DMV doesn’t do much damage to society, the fact that academic fabulists actually are treated as serious people has resulted in all sorts of cultural damage.

    • Agree: ic1000, Forbes
  48. Not that the USA is loads better, but Canadia is feminized and frail.

    Thanks to women voting, they’re losing everything, because Jawline Yogafag is a real hunk (of excrement.)

    • LOL: Mike Tre
  49. Gotta be Babylon Bee!

  50. My soon to be two years old grand daughter stays with us on Fridays. I gave her a rocking horse, which is behind me as I type. When she rides I find a video of the William Tell Overture and she rocks to that stirring beat that played over the ‘Lone Ranger’ TV show of my youth. The video we use is of a Japanese orchestra, she always points and says…”That one.” Every member of the orchestra, including the conductor, is Japanese. Can’t people just enjoy the classics, whether art or music, without having a shit fit over the past…1742. Canada is known for, hmmm, oh yeah, maple syrup and a vast country and little or no influence in the world. Now, if you were wondering why they call their dollar the “looney” reread the article.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Buffalo Joe

    Excellent.

    , @martin_2
    @Buffalo Joe


    little or no influence in the world
     
    Well, Banting and Best, two Canadians, did discover the cause of diabetes.
  51. @PiltdownMan
    Somewhat OT:


    Can an Equation to Help Determine Kidney Health Be Racist?

    https://undark.org/2022/01/19/can-an-equation-to-help-determine-kidney-health-be-racist/
     

    An Amhara Ethiopian immigrant medical student at UC Davis, whose forebears are from an African country that was occupied for a mere few years by Italy in the 1930s and 1940s, and was never colonized, raises issues about equations going back to "slavery days."

    “Racism is very obviously present in a lot of ‘objective’ data in medicine,” she says.

    “It goes back to slavery days where you would buy Black men based on their muscles,” she recalls saying. “I asked, why did we accept that, and why do we still continue to use it? It affects how Black folks get new kidneys, and that is, to me, horrific.”
     

     

    https://youtu.be/zL3rt6RTqps

    Replies: @Tono Bungay, @Buffalo Joe, @Ralph L, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Alden

    Pilt, thank you, my agita meter is on full blast today. Blacks need kidneys? Start harvesting them from all the dead black bodies that are piling up in American cities. Offer a cash payment for a fresh kill and watch how quickly momma says..”You ain’t be trying to save his ass? We want that cash.” Enjoy your day.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Thanks: Hangnail Hans
  52. @Altai
    This is another example where the ideas of 'real Canadians don't exist!' gets tossed aside. They do, they just aren't allowed to have collective rights only collective guilt and shame so when somebody articulates the issue of why real Canadians are expected to just keep giving ground and be displaced, they cry 'real Canadians don't exist!' because they're still scared to say 'yes you exist and yes we want to displace you and feel only you have no collective rights!'. That might make people wake up to a certain irreconcilable conflict and they may decide to take their own side.

    But when it comes to guilt and shame, they seem to know exactly the biological definition of who are the real Canadians are and the hereditary nature of this guilt and it's collective nature.

    Similar to the general problem of the kinds of people who say race doesn't exist being really sure who is the victim of a hate crime.

    And in fairness to Canada almost all wokeness was and continues to be invented by people in America, (Americans dominate the English language internet and when everyone is plugged into the same social media it becomes even more apparent) they just internalise being more progressive and agreeable in contrast to the US due to the US internalising often not being very social democratic or agreeable.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @David, @Buffalo Joe, @Justvisiting

    Altai, Canada, where they turn every declarative sentence into a question, eh?

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Dube
    @Buffalo Joe

    Canada, where they turn every declarative sentence into a question, eh?

    BJoe, when have you ever heard a question mark after a Canadian "eh"? Rarely for me. They're not really asking; it's simply an "eh," you see. Emphatically declarative.

    I hypothesize that it came from two paddlers in one canoe having to coordinate strokes.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Buffalo Joe

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyd-yRnsOdo

  53. @Altai
    This is another example where the ideas of 'real Canadians don't exist!' gets tossed aside. They do, they just aren't allowed to have collective rights only collective guilt and shame so when somebody articulates the issue of why real Canadians are expected to just keep giving ground and be displaced, they cry 'real Canadians don't exist!' because they're still scared to say 'yes you exist and yes we want to displace you and feel only you have no collective rights!'. That might make people wake up to a certain irreconcilable conflict and they may decide to take their own side.

    But when it comes to guilt and shame, they seem to know exactly the biological definition of who are the real Canadians are and the hereditary nature of this guilt and it's collective nature.

    Similar to the general problem of the kinds of people who say race doesn't exist being really sure who is the victim of a hate crime.

    And in fairness to Canada almost all wokeness was and continues to be invented by people in America, (Americans dominate the English language internet and when everyone is plugged into the same social media it becomes even more apparent) they just internalise being more progressive and agreeable in contrast to the US due to the US internalising often not being very social democratic or agreeable.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @David, @Buffalo Joe, @Justvisiting

    Years ago we (Yankees) went to Ottawa while on vacation and visited a bunch of government sites.

    The best part was the fancy restaurant near these areas where I took my wife for lunch. I told her clearly–don’t say one word. We are here to listen to neighboring tables and learn what they have to say.

    As I suspected (hoped) the restaurant was full of senior .gov officials and they were talking “shop”.
    They viewed the masses with total contempt–cattle that needed to be herded by brilliant “experts” like themselves.

    There is nothing wrong with Canada that guillotines could not fix.

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
  54. I agree.

    Handel’s Messiah is clearly racist, colonialist and oppressive. I say we replace it with something more diverse, such as Pimpin’ Ain’t Eazy:

  55. @The Last Real Calvinist
    On a related note, from The Guardian (aka your preeminent source of NBA news):

    The Dallas Mavericks are consistently white in a black league. Why?

    The gist of the story: how dare the Mavs have more than one or two white players on their roster? That's not the NBA way!

    The opening paragraph, which gives you the flavor:

    In 2020, the NBA was 74.2% black and 16.9% white. It seems every decade, the white NBA player becomes less relevant. Yet one franchise has often kept the dream of mediocre white guys alive: the Dallas Mavericks. In 15 of the last 21 Mavs seasons, there were three or more white players on the 12-man active roster. In more than half of those 15 seasons there were at least four white players, not to mention at least two starting white players. The Mavericks, in the literal sense, do not look like the rest of the league.
     

    Replies: @Charon, @AndrewR, @ScarletNumber, @cosMICjester, @Barnard, @rebel yell, @Forbes, @Colin Wright, @possumman

    Well the Mavericks are the defending Southwest Division champions and won an NBA championship* in the last decade, so they must be doing something right. In addition, they are literally Mavericks; it’s right in the name! Finally, while owner Mark Cuban lucked into his fortune, he is a solid businessman overall.

    *

    [MORE]
    The NBA is the only major North American sports league that does not have a brand name for its championship

  56. First Nations Indigians produced some wonderful songs – both of them!

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    @Adfhhj sghjkyf

    First Nation Indigians. In other words, the IndigNations.

  57. @Reg Cæsar

    writer and arts consultant Soraya Peerbaye
     
    She was born to Mauritians in London-- that cold, flat, boring London between Detroit and Buffalo. Where J Philippe Rushton was exiled.

    Nêhiyaw-Michif (Cree-Métis) baritone Jonathon Adams
     
    Jonathon-- the bathroom race! He should change it to Ta-Nêhiyaw Cree-Métis, and get all kinds of grants in the US.

    a “commentary on what it means to be Two-Spirit and Indigenous in Alberta.”
     
    Canada's Supreme Court has been more successful at imposing Two-Spirit Marriage on their Indigenous than ours has:

    Same-sex marriage is performed and recognized by law in all fifty states of the USA and in the District of Columbia, in all overseas territories except American Samoa, and in all tribal nations that do not have their own marriage laws, as well as in most nations that do. The largest of the dozen or so known exceptions among the federal reservations are Navajo and Gila River, and the largest among the shared-sovereignty Oklahoma Tribal Statistical Areas are the Creek, Choctaw, Chickasaw and Citizen Potawatomi. These polities ban same-sex marriage and do not recognize marriages from other jurisdictions, though members may still marry under state law and be accorded all the rights of marriage under state and federal law.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage#cite_ref-usa_59-0


     

    Natural ability without education has more often attained to glory and virtue than education without natural ability. -Cicero, statesman, orator, writer (106-43 B.C)

    Replies: @LP5, @Peter D. Bredon

    The Canadian exemplar of excrescence can’t be blown off too soon through the orifice of modern media and its explosive diarrhea of wokeness.
    Now, back to your Saturday programming.

  58. @Wilkey
    The reality of major performance groups is that it ain't good the audience will stop coming. Thanks to COVID, a very large percentage of the audience already isn't coming. A lot of the audience for classical music tends to be on the older side that's most vulnerable to COVID, anyway. They aren't showing up. And I would guess that they're starting to wonder whether their audience size will ever return to pre-COVID levels.

    The other reality is that for many orchestras and theaters a very large percentage of their budget - perhaps even an absolute majority - comes from government grants, corporate grants, and from foundations. So they're basically being subsidized to produce shit. Eventually those funders will catch on, but it may take a while.

    One major, already very woke theatre in my city got even more woke after the overdose of St George the Prophet of Floyd's (Peace and Fentanyl Be Upon Him). They decided to make at least half their cast minority (though magically all but one of their full-time staff is still pasty white). They ended selling far less than half their seats. They responded by making all of their seating general admission, so that no one can see online how shitty their ticket sales are.

    Replies: @eded, @Harry Baldwin, @The Wild Geese Howard

    They decided to make at least half their cast minority…. They ended selling far less than half their seats.

    To fight racism, the management decided to cast on the basis of racial equity rather than ability.
    That half as many people showed up to watch the performance shows the need to increase efforts to fight racism.

    Is this what they call a feedback loop?

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Harry Baldwin

    Los Angeles Opera is now leading the new trend in casting conspicuously mediocre Black singers in the leading role of their productions. These aren’t Leontyne Price’s who were as good as anyone gets, it’s more like whoever they can get.

    Replies: @AndrewR

  59. Another production based on Handel’s work, Electric Messiah by Soundstreams was billed as “a full-length music video that reimagines Handel’s classic for today’s world”

    Handel’s Watered Down Music?

  60. @Reg Cæsar

    To claim the identity of a white settler scholar, should you have to have personally busted sod?
     
    The last sentence from Parmela Attariwala's bio at the Esker Foundation, which seems to pay for this kind of thing in Calgary:

    "Since 2019, she has been living, with gratitude, on the unceded lands of the Coast Salish peoples."

    PBS's Molly of Denial features short interviews with children from around the continent. These often mention the tribe which preceded the settlers where the kid lives-- Massachusett, Eno, etc. Not as annoying as the Canadian practice-- yet-- but still...

    Inuktitut, Inuttitut
     
    What Canada needs is an Inuktitut-Inuttitut Institute. The latter is spoken in Labrador, which brings up dog breeds again. How come Canada's newest province is honored with two breed names? Is there a single breed named for a US state or another province? Or is all we have the "American Bully"?

    SlowPitchSound’s turntablism
     
    That's a bit pretentious for what a disc jockey does.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Achmed E. Newman, @tyrone, @AndrewR, @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @James J O'Meara

    “Since 2019, she has been living, with gratitude, on the unceded lands of the Coast Salish peoples.”

    This is a sort of ritual thing for libs in Canada now, like signing your letters Heil Hitler! or saying “in the year of our Lord”. If it was original it would be sort of creative but it’s not – they all just copy each other’s bowing and scraping.

    If I were a Coast Salish person, this would just annoy me more (but it’s not about the Coast Salish people, it’s about virtue signaling to other Goodwhites). If you are living on my “unceded lands” then how aboot you give me the deed to your condo in Vancouver, the one with the nice quartz countertops and a decent view of the harbor, eh? What, you’re not prepared to do that? Then go screw yourself and your empty gestures.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack D

    About the PC terminology in Canada, I've told this story before, but I'll tell it again. I was traveling with about 8 guys, 2 of them Canadian, to a lodge in BC somewhere. The one guy mentioned a number of times that the people leaving the lodge before us were those First Nations people.

    Honestly, as God is my witness, I thought they were talking about BANKERS. Haha, those people won't forget my remark - "Oh, you got a group of bankers staying there right now, eh?" (OK, without the "eh?")

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright

    , @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    (but it’s not about the Coast Salish people, it’s about virtue signaling to other Goodwhites)
     
    "Goodwhites" like Parmela Attariwala?

    To be clear, i'm in agreement with you here--and you stated it well.

    But in her case it carries a whole lot of "immigrant asshole" vibe. It's a way for her to say "I'm very sad, that those evil white people stole your land ... it wasn't me!" while plopping her fat brown Indian ass down on the land white Canadians settled and sucking on the tit of the nation they built.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Jack D, @martin_2

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    If you are living on my “unceded lands” then how aboot* you give me the deed to your condo in Vancouver, the one with the nice quartz countertops and a decent view of the harbor, eh?
     
    But that's mortgaged to the Chinese, who tore down handsome Victorian mansions to build it. I wouldn't be surprised if Vancouverites visit San Francisco to see what their city used to look like, as Angelenos do to ride the kind of trolleys that once graced their own hometown.

    (Though a better place to do that would be Kenosha.)

    *To hear the most extreme case of oots-and-aboots, watch any of native Vancouverite JJ McCullough's videos. Matt Baker of Useful Charts makes videos from the same city, but he's from Nova Scotia and hardly sounds Canadian at all.
  61. @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar


    “Since 2019, she has been living, with gratitude, on the unceded lands of the Coast Salish peoples.”
     
    This is a sort of ritual thing for libs in Canada now, like signing your letters Heil Hitler! or saying "in the year of our Lord". If it was original it would be sort of creative but it's not - they all just copy each other's bowing and scraping.

    If I were a Coast Salish person, this would just annoy me more (but it's not about the Coast Salish people, it's about virtue signaling to other Goodwhites). If you are living on my "unceded lands" then how aboot you give me the deed to your condo in Vancouver, the one with the nice quartz countertops and a decent view of the harbor, eh? What, you're not prepared to do that? Then go screw yourself and your empty gestures.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @AnotherDad, @Reg Cæsar

    About the PC terminology in Canada, I’ve told this story before, but I’ll tell it again. I was traveling with about 8 guys, 2 of them Canadian, to a lodge in BC somewhere. The one guy mentioned a number of times that the people leaving the lodge before us were those First Nations people.

    Honestly, as God is my witness, I thought they were talking about BANKERS. Haha, those people won’t forget my remark – “Oh, you got a group of bankers staying there right now, eh?” (OK, without the “eh?”)

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Achmed E. Newman


    About the PC terminology in Canada
     
    How do we know they're really the first nations? Some of the might have displaced an earlier tribe. We have Cahokia on the Mississippi and many empty pueblos in the Southwest.


    There were no Indians resident in the Green Mountains when the white man settled; other "natives" merely used it as a thoroughfare. So do the remaining Yankees in Vermont constitute a "First Nation"?

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @Colin Wright
    @Achmed E. Newman

    '...About the PC terminology in Canada, I’ve told this story before, but I’ll tell it again. I was traveling with about 8 guys, 2 of them Canadian, to a lodge in BC somewhere. The one guy mentioned a number of times that the people leaving the lodge before us were those First Nations people...'

    They do have a lot of dot-Indians up there. 'First Nations' at least avoids that confusion.

    ...we're starting to confront the same thing. Dot-Indians are starting to all but literally come out of the woodwork down here.

    ...and there'll be a lot more. There are a billion Indians -- and we've got a long way to sink before coming here is no longer preferable to staying in India.

  62. The Three Ages of Man.

    Tri-Weekly.
    Try Weekly.
    Try Weakly.

    (Sorry).

  63. @PiltdownMan
    Somewhat OT:


    Can an Equation to Help Determine Kidney Health Be Racist?

    https://undark.org/2022/01/19/can-an-equation-to-help-determine-kidney-health-be-racist/
     

    An Amhara Ethiopian immigrant medical student at UC Davis, whose forebears are from an African country that was occupied for a mere few years by Italy in the 1930s and 1940s, and was never colonized, raises issues about equations going back to "slavery days."

    “Racism is very obviously present in a lot of ‘objective’ data in medicine,” she says.

    “It goes back to slavery days where you would buy Black men based on their muscles,” she recalls saying. “I asked, why did we accept that, and why do we still continue to use it? It affects how Black folks get new kidneys, and that is, to me, horrific.”
     

     

    https://youtu.be/zL3rt6RTqps

    Replies: @Tono Bungay, @Buffalo Joe, @Ralph L, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Alden

    Labs take race into account when calculating kidney function, since historically, even healthy AA had slightly worse results.

    In September 2021, the NFK and ASN task force released a report suggesting that these equations overestimated GFR in African American people [high score good] and, to a lesser extent, non-African American people. For this reason, they recommend using a new 2021 CKD-EPI creatinine equation to calculate eGFR, which excludes ethnicity as a factor.

  64. @S Johnson
    The text of the Messiah was compiled by Handel’s collaborator Charles Jennens exclusively from the King James Version of the Bible. So a version using just the text should clearly be credited to Jennens and not the German-speaking composer. Using Handel’s name is continuing the writers’ legacy of white settler appropriation.

    Replies: @Barnard

    That was my reaction also, how could they not understand the text is from the Bible? Do they understand what the lyrics mean and what the purpose was for composing Messiah? I see from their set list one of the selections they chose was “All We Like Sheep Have Gone Astray.” How fitting.

  65. In Canada, this type of psycho-social self-mutilation will only get worse.

    White Canadians fuse the worst elements of British and French sanctimony and denial about race realism, larded over with generous dollops of jealousy and insecurity towards their neighbor to the south.

    Thus, always trying to outdo American wokeness is the perpetual “Worthwhile Canadian Initiative” of NYT headline lore.

  66. @The Last Real Calvinist
    On a related note, from The Guardian (aka your preeminent source of NBA news):

    The Dallas Mavericks are consistently white in a black league. Why?

    The gist of the story: how dare the Mavs have more than one or two white players on their roster? That's not the NBA way!

    The opening paragraph, which gives you the flavor:

    In 2020, the NBA was 74.2% black and 16.9% white. It seems every decade, the white NBA player becomes less relevant. Yet one franchise has often kept the dream of mediocre white guys alive: the Dallas Mavericks. In 15 of the last 21 Mavs seasons, there were three or more white players on the 12-man active roster. In more than half of those 15 seasons there were at least four white players, not to mention at least two starting white players. The Mavericks, in the literal sense, do not look like the rest of the league.
     

    Replies: @Charon, @AndrewR, @ScarletNumber, @cosMICjester, @Barnard, @rebel yell, @Forbes, @Colin Wright, @possumman

    Wow the seething antipathy towards whites from a Brit rag in a country that’s only 3% black is quite enlightening & enraging. I’d love to tell Lee Escobedo to go F himself but I’m sure he’d enjoy it being he’s LatinX which I think means he loves c0 ck.

  67. @The Last Real Calvinist
    On a related note, from The Guardian (aka your preeminent source of NBA news):

    The Dallas Mavericks are consistently white in a black league. Why?

    The gist of the story: how dare the Mavs have more than one or two white players on their roster? That's not the NBA way!

    The opening paragraph, which gives you the flavor:

    In 2020, the NBA was 74.2% black and 16.9% white. It seems every decade, the white NBA player becomes less relevant. Yet one franchise has often kept the dream of mediocre white guys alive: the Dallas Mavericks. In 15 of the last 21 Mavs seasons, there were three or more white players on the 12-man active roster. In more than half of those 15 seasons there were at least four white players, not to mention at least two starting white players. The Mavericks, in the literal sense, do not look like the rest of the league.
     

    Replies: @Charon, @AndrewR, @ScarletNumber, @cosMICjester, @Barnard, @rebel yell, @Forbes, @Colin Wright, @possumman

    I quit following the NBA several years ago so I didn’t know which other white guys the Mavs had besides Luca Doncic, so I checked. It is better or worse for the Guardian that none of the white guys currently on the team are Americans? A quick check of the rosters of the other top teams it looks like most of the them have one or two white guys. Is two the acceptable limit?

  68. My prediction; Penner and Clark are about to summoned to the Principal’s Office and subjected to a severe Struggle Session. Why? Notice that they failed to include their preferred pronouns in their opening bio. If you see any modern academic address in Canada those are now mandatory. Those poor chumps are about to have an uncomfortable run-in with the lavender lynch-mob.

  69. @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar


    “Since 2019, she has been living, with gratitude, on the unceded lands of the Coast Salish peoples.”
     
    This is a sort of ritual thing for libs in Canada now, like signing your letters Heil Hitler! or saying "in the year of our Lord". If it was original it would be sort of creative but it's not - they all just copy each other's bowing and scraping.

    If I were a Coast Salish person, this would just annoy me more (but it's not about the Coast Salish people, it's about virtue signaling to other Goodwhites). If you are living on my "unceded lands" then how aboot you give me the deed to your condo in Vancouver, the one with the nice quartz countertops and a decent view of the harbor, eh? What, you're not prepared to do that? Then go screw yourself and your empty gestures.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @AnotherDad, @Reg Cæsar

    (but it’s not about the Coast Salish people, it’s about virtue signaling to other Goodwhites)

    “Goodwhites” like Parmela Attariwala?

    To be clear, i’m in agreement with you here–and you stated it well.

    But in her case it carries a whole lot of “immigrant asshole” vibe. It’s a way for her to say “I’m very sad, that those evil white people stole your land … it wasn’t me!” while plopping her fat brown Indian ass down on the land white Canadians settled and sucking on the tit of the nation they built.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @AnotherDad

    I might be the only man on earth pointing out this obvious fact: almost everything that hurts whites in North America hurts "First Nations" aka "American Indians" aka "Native Americans" aka descendants of the pre-Columbian population even more than it hurts whites. So when these scumsuckers pretend to care about the red man, it behooves us to point out that their policies and rhetoric objectively hurts the red man.

    We all know the left doesn't actually care about the red man and that the red man is only invoked in order to hurt the white man. But it's useful to force them to be explicit about this.

    , @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    "Goodwhites" don't actually have to be white. To be a "goodwhite" you just have to attend the right schools and sign up for the whole package of goodwhite posturing. Wearing the right clothes and having a little vocal fry and other verbal tics is also de rigueur. Goodwhites are very egalitarian that way.

    , @martin_2
    @AnotherDad

    Jared Taylor made two excellent points regarding recent immigrants to the USA who claim that White Americans stole the land from the Red Indians and that therefore they have no right to limit immigration...

    1. If you believe that America was stolen, then you must believe that you too are living and benefitting from living on stolen land, and surely therefore the only moral thing for you to do is to return home to your own country, since otherwise you are benefitting from stolen property. If I learned that I was using stolen property I would want to return it to its rightful owner. You, on the other hand, are a bad person because you don't want to do that.

    2. If America was stolen from the Red Indians and really belongs to the Red Indians, then surely it should be the Red Indians and only the Red Indians that determine immigration policy. Not people like you. Not only do you live on stolen land but you have the temerity to want to have a say on who shall and shall not live there!

  70. Didn’t Jack Aubrey’s chaplain on the Gloucester have a great way with music and got the hands to sing the ‘Messiah’?

    With luck it’ll survive this nonsense and we will have our countries and our culture back.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Gordo

    Gordo, good luck with that. you really don't think this type of culture is being taught in public schools.

  71. @Harry Baldwin
    @Wilkey

    They decided to make at least half their cast minority.... They ended selling far less than half their seats.

    To fight racism, the management decided to cast on the basis of racial equity rather than ability.
    That half as many people showed up to watch the performance shows the need to increase efforts to fight racism.

    Is this what they call a feedback loop?

    Replies: @Alfa158

    Los Angeles Opera is now leading the new trend in casting conspicuously mediocre Black singers in the leading role of their productions. These aren’t Leontyne Price’s who were as good as anyone gets, it’s more like whoever they can get.

    • Agree: Hangnail Hans
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Alfa158

    Some say the end is near
    Some say we'll see Armageddon soon


    I certainly hope we will
    I sure could use a vacation from this
    Bullshit three-ring
    Circus sideshow of
    Freaks
    Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call L.A.
    The only way to fix it is to flush it all away
    Any fucking time, any fucking day
    Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay
    Fret for your figure and
    Fret for your latte and
    Fret for your lawsuit and
    Fret for your hairpiece and
    Fret for your Prozac and
    Fret for your pilot and
    Fret for your contract and
    Fret for your car
    It's a
    Bullshit three-ring
    Circus sideshow of
    Freaks
    Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call L.A.
    The only way to fix it is to flush it all away
    Any fucking time, any fucking day
    Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay
    Some say a comet will fall from the sky
    Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves
    Followed by fault lines that cannot sit still
    Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits
    And some say the end is near
    Some say we'll see Armageddon soon
    I certainly hope we will
    I sure could use a vacation from this
    Stupid shit, silly shit, stupid shit
    One great big festering neon distraction
    I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied
    Learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim
    'Cause Mom's gonna fix it all soon
    Mom's comin' 'round to put it back the way it ought to be
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Fuck L. Ron Hubbard and
    Fuck all his clones
    Fuck all these gun-toting
    Hip gangster wannabes
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Fuck retro anything
    Fuck your tattoos
    Fuck all you junkies and
    Fuck your short memories
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Yeah, fuck smiley glad-hands
    With hidden agendas
    Fuck these dysfunctional
    Insecure actresses
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    'Cause I'm praying for rain
    I'm praying for tidal waves
    I wanna see the ground give way
    I wanna watch it all go down
    Mom, please flush it all away
    I wanna see it go right in and down
    I wanna watch it go right in
    Watch you flush it all away
    Yeah, time to bring it down again
    Yeah, don't just call me pessimist
    Try and read between the lines
    I can't imagine why you wouldn't
    Welcome any change, my friend
    I wanna see it come down
    Put it down
    Suck it down
    Flush it down

    Replies: @Mike Tre

  72. A few thoughts:

    — Conservatives really need to turn of the spigot.
    This stuff/these people exist in such quantity because they are sucking–directly or indirectly–on the government tit, i.e. sucking off of Canadian farmers, miners, foresters, engineers, factory workers … hockey players. None of whom need or want this parade of parasites.

    Here in the US Republicans once upon a time threatened to “defund the left”, but did–as usual–nothing.

    — Having the girls in charge does not promote sanity or quality.
    I read this and it was two (parasite) gals, referencing the “work” of two more (parasite) gals.

    — If your people and your culture are great … just do it!
    You want native this or people-of-color that–just do it. Go make some great art. (Hint: it’s hard.) But this endless need to wheedle and whine about the great work of Western Christian civilization pretty much says it all.

    — This is your nation on minoritarianism.
    Yeah “not pretty”. Tedious and unpleasant.

    — Canada really needs “separate nations”.

    • Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum
    @AnotherDad

    There is no Conservatives in Canada, they are PCs. Cancelled own candidate for accepting a 100$ Campaign donation from a nazi.

    So we may only watch and speculate, how accurately libs reenact " 100days of Sodom " on their cabinet meetings, with Justine playing Justine, and Cristine playing Sade.

  73. Halle-fucking-lujah, bitches!

  74. @Alfa158
    @Harry Baldwin

    Los Angeles Opera is now leading the new trend in casting conspicuously mediocre Black singers in the leading role of their productions. These aren’t Leontyne Price’s who were as good as anyone gets, it’s more like whoever they can get.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Some say the end is near
    Some say we’ll see Armageddon soon

    [MORE]

    I certainly hope we will
    I sure could use a vacation from this
    Bullshit three-ring
    Circus sideshow of
    Freaks
    Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call L.A.
    The only way to fix it is to flush it all away
    Any fucking time, any fucking day
    Learn to swim, I’ll see you down in Arizona bay
    Fret for your figure and
    Fret for your latte and
    Fret for your lawsuit and
    Fret for your hairpiece and
    Fret for your Prozac and
    Fret for your pilot and
    Fret for your contract and
    Fret for your car
    It’s a
    Bullshit three-ring
    Circus sideshow of
    Freaks
    Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call L.A.
    The only way to fix it is to flush it all away
    Any fucking time, any fucking day
    Learn to swim, I’ll see you down in Arizona bay
    Some say a comet will fall from the sky
    Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves
    Followed by fault lines that cannot sit still
    Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits
    And some say the end is near
    Some say we’ll see Armageddon soon
    I certainly hope we will
    I sure could use a vacation from this
    Stupid shit, silly shit, stupid shit
    One great big festering neon distraction
    I’ve a suggestion to keep you all occupied
    Learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim
    ‘Cause Mom’s gonna fix it all soon
    Mom’s comin’ ’round to put it back the way it ought to be
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Fuck L. Ron Hubbard and
    Fuck all his clones
    Fuck all these gun-toting
    Hip gangster wannabes
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Fuck retro anything
    Fuck your tattoos
    Fuck all you junkies and
    Fuck your short memories
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Yeah, fuck smiley glad-hands
    With hidden agendas
    Fuck these dysfunctional
    Insecure actresses
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    ‘Cause I’m praying for rain
    I’m praying for tidal waves
    I wanna see the ground give way
    I wanna watch it all go down
    Mom, please flush it all away
    I wanna see it go right in and down
    I wanna watch it go right in
    Watch you flush it all away
    Yeah, time to bring it down again
    Yeah, don’t just call me pessimist
    Try and read between the lines
    I can’t imagine why you wouldn’t
    Welcome any change, my friend
    I wanna see it come down
    Put it down
    Suck it down
    Flush it down

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @AndrewR

    I’ve tried to turn this group onto Tool, with little success.

    Did you see Danny Carey got arrested last week?

    Replies: @AndrewR

  75. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    (but it’s not about the Coast Salish people, it’s about virtue signaling to other Goodwhites)
     
    "Goodwhites" like Parmela Attariwala?

    To be clear, i'm in agreement with you here--and you stated it well.

    But in her case it carries a whole lot of "immigrant asshole" vibe. It's a way for her to say "I'm very sad, that those evil white people stole your land ... it wasn't me!" while plopping her fat brown Indian ass down on the land white Canadians settled and sucking on the tit of the nation they built.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Jack D, @martin_2

    I might be the only man on earth pointing out this obvious fact: almost everything that hurts whites in North America hurts “First Nations” aka “American Indians” aka “Native Americans” aka descendants of the pre-Columbian population even more than it hurts whites. So when these scumsuckers pretend to care about the red man, it behooves us to point out that their policies and rhetoric objectively hurts the red man.

    We all know the left doesn’t actually care about the red man and that the red man is only invoked in order to hurt the white man. But it’s useful to force them to be explicit about this.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  76. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    (but it’s not about the Coast Salish people, it’s about virtue signaling to other Goodwhites)
     
    "Goodwhites" like Parmela Attariwala?

    To be clear, i'm in agreement with you here--and you stated it well.

    But in her case it carries a whole lot of "immigrant asshole" vibe. It's a way for her to say "I'm very sad, that those evil white people stole your land ... it wasn't me!" while plopping her fat brown Indian ass down on the land white Canadians settled and sucking on the tit of the nation they built.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Jack D, @martin_2

    “Goodwhites” don’t actually have to be white. To be a “goodwhite” you just have to attend the right schools and sign up for the whole package of goodwhite posturing. Wearing the right clothes and having a little vocal fry and other verbal tics is also de rigueur. Goodwhites are very egalitarian that way.

  77. These two women should be duct taped to chairs, with their eyes propped open and forced to watch the…’what have the Romans done for us’ scene from Monty Python’s “The Life of Brian.” Someone can link if they wish.

    • LOL: AnotherDad
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Buffalo Joe

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQ

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Buffalo Joe

  78. To claim the identity of a white settler scholar, should you have to have personally busted sod? For example, the closest I ever came to settling the American West was growing up in ranch house (on a culdesac).

    Hilarious!

  79. Against the Grain Theatre’s new interpretation of Messiah .. mandate of presenting familiar pieces “in innovative ways and in unusual venues.”

    It’s too bad that Nina Simone — a true original — is not around to cut down these fakers. Her seriously popular, Bach-ish compositions were really something; and she played so beautifully.

    Even near the end, she was still drawing crowds: young and old alike. At full fee (i.e. no subsidy from hotel room taxes). At established venues (that she herself had rented for the night).

  80. @PiltdownMan
    @Reg Cæsar

    I assume she is a descendant of this Sikh warrior and so, either an immigrant, or married to one.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sham_Singh_Atariwala
    Sham Singh Attariwala (1790 - 10 February 1846) was a general of the Sikh Empire ... Upon his death, his wife Mai Dasi committed sati (self-immolation) in her bridal dress.
     
    I guess the kids didn't have to do that, so the line must have survived.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Isn’t an Atari-Wallah someone who sells you video consoles?

    My favourite Indian names are the Parsi occupational ones like Engineer and Contractor. Farookh Engineer was a great Indian cricketer. But most Parsi names are related to ancestral location, apparently.

    https://parsikhabar.net/history/parsi-surnames-the-places-they-are-derived-from/13219/

  81. @The Last Real Calvinist
    On a related note, from The Guardian (aka your preeminent source of NBA news):

    The Dallas Mavericks are consistently white in a black league. Why?

    The gist of the story: how dare the Mavs have more than one or two white players on their roster? That's not the NBA way!

    The opening paragraph, which gives you the flavor:

    In 2020, the NBA was 74.2% black and 16.9% white. It seems every decade, the white NBA player becomes less relevant. Yet one franchise has often kept the dream of mediocre white guys alive: the Dallas Mavericks. In 15 of the last 21 Mavs seasons, there were three or more white players on the 12-man active roster. In more than half of those 15 seasons there were at least four white players, not to mention at least two starting white players. The Mavericks, in the literal sense, do not look like the rest of the league.
     

    Replies: @Charon, @AndrewR, @ScarletNumber, @cosMICjester, @Barnard, @rebel yell, @Forbes, @Colin Wright, @possumman

    The evolution of black demands:

    Equal rights under the law
    Equal opportunity (not the same as equality under the law) – Head Start, etc
    Equal outcomes – Affirmative action, quotas, etc
    More than equal outcomes – every NBA team must be 74.2% black or more.

  82. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar


    Inuktitut, Inuttitut
     
    Well, we got Indianapolis, Indiana.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Reg Cæsar, @Odin

    Well, we got Indianapolis, Indiana.

    These racist names must be changed. How about Indigenous Peopleopolis, Indigenous Peopleana?

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @rebel yell


    These racist names must be changed. How about Indigenous Peopleopolis, Indigenous Peopleana?
     
    No, they should be from the true ancestral homeland, Siberia.

    Yakuska, Oymyakon, etc.
  83. @AnotherDad
    A few thoughts:

    -- Conservatives really need to turn of the spigot.
    This stuff/these people exist in such quantity because they are sucking--directly or indirectly--on the government tit, i.e. sucking off of Canadian farmers, miners, foresters, engineers, factory workers ... hockey players. None of whom need or want this parade of parasites.

    Here in the US Republicans once upon a time threatened to "defund the left", but did--as usual--nothing.

    -- Having the girls in charge does not promote sanity or quality.
    I read this and it was two (parasite) gals, referencing the "work" of two more (parasite) gals.

    -- If your people and your culture are great ... just do it!
    You want native this or people-of-color that--just do it. Go make some great art. (Hint: it's hard.) But this endless need to wheedle and whine about the great work of Western Christian civilization pretty much says it all.

    -- This is your nation on minoritarianism.
    Yeah "not pretty". Tedious and unpleasant.

    -- Canada really needs "separate nations".

    Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum

    There is no Conservatives in Canada, they are PCs. Cancelled own candidate for accepting a 100\$ Campaign donation from a nazi.

    So we may only watch and speculate, how accurately libs reenact ” 100days of Sodom ” on their cabinet meetings, with Justine playing Justine, and Cristine playing Sade.

  84. @Reg Cæsar

    To claim the identity of a white settler scholar, should you have to have personally busted sod?
     
    The last sentence from Parmela Attariwala's bio at the Esker Foundation, which seems to pay for this kind of thing in Calgary:

    "Since 2019, she has been living, with gratitude, on the unceded lands of the Coast Salish peoples."

    PBS's Molly of Denial features short interviews with children from around the continent. These often mention the tribe which preceded the settlers where the kid lives-- Massachusett, Eno, etc. Not as annoying as the Canadian practice-- yet-- but still...

    Inuktitut, Inuttitut
     
    What Canada needs is an Inuktitut-Inuttitut Institute. The latter is spoken in Labrador, which brings up dog breeds again. How come Canada's newest province is honored with two breed names? Is there a single breed named for a US state or another province? Or is all we have the "American Bully"?

    SlowPitchSound’s turntablism
     
    That's a bit pretentious for what a disc jockey does.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Achmed E. Newman, @tyrone, @AndrewR, @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @James J O'Meara

    “Since 2019, she has been living, with gratitude, on the unceded lands of the Coast Salish peoples.”

    This is not just a ritual thing in Canada, as Jack D pointed out. It is becoming a ritual in the US too.

    This even broke into the news last year when on a zoom call, a bunch of Department of the Interior employees all started out by saying what tribes lands they lived on. I guess this was done to highlight just how woke the new Brandon administration was going to be. Of course the Democrats still really don’t care about Indians.

    Isn’t acknowledging that they live on stolen land make it worse? Aren’t they just straight-up colonists themselves at that point? If they really think the land is stolen, why don’t they get the Hell off of it?

    • Replies: @Charlotte
    @Mr. Anon

    It’s not just the DOI; the cool people at other agencies are doing it as well. Lots of federal government facilities sit on land acquired by eminent domain. Sometimes taken from BIPOCs. I gleefully await the uproar when some BLM activist demands to know why the agency didn’t acknowledge stealing the land from black folk at below market value. It’s veritable redlining!

  85. @The Last Real Calvinist
    On a related note, from The Guardian (aka your preeminent source of NBA news):

    The Dallas Mavericks are consistently white in a black league. Why?

    The gist of the story: how dare the Mavs have more than one or two white players on their roster? That's not the NBA way!

    The opening paragraph, which gives you the flavor:

    In 2020, the NBA was 74.2% black and 16.9% white. It seems every decade, the white NBA player becomes less relevant. Yet one franchise has often kept the dream of mediocre white guys alive: the Dallas Mavericks. In 15 of the last 21 Mavs seasons, there were three or more white players on the 12-man active roster. In more than half of those 15 seasons there were at least four white players, not to mention at least two starting white players. The Mavericks, in the literal sense, do not look like the rest of the league.
     

    Replies: @Charon, @AndrewR, @ScarletNumber, @cosMICjester, @Barnard, @rebel yell, @Forbes, @Colin Wright, @possumman

    In 2020, the NBA was 74.2% black and 16.9% white. … In 15 of the last 21 Mavs seasons, there were three or more white players on the 12-man active roster.

    So 16.9% turns out to be 2 white players, and Dallas had 3. Someone call the diversity police!

    But then 74.2% turns out to be 9 black players, with a 12 man roster, that leaves a remainder of 1 non-black player.

    While going back 21 years, the proportion of white players was higher than 16.9%–in 2000, white players were 22%.

    What was the point of the article, other than calling white players mediocre…

  86. @Buffalo Joe
    My soon to be two years old grand daughter stays with us on Fridays. I gave her a rocking horse, which is behind me as I type. When she rides I find a video of the William Tell Overture and she rocks to that stirring beat that played over the 'Lone Ranger' TV show of my youth. The video we use is of a Japanese orchestra, she always points and says..."That one." Every member of the orchestra, including the conductor, is Japanese. Can't people just enjoy the classics, whether art or music, without having a shit fit over the past...1742. Canada is known for, hmmm, oh yeah, maple syrup and a vast country and little or no influence in the world. Now, if you were wondering why they call their dollar the "looney" reread the article.

    Replies: @Forbes, @martin_2

    Excellent.

    • Thanks: Buffalo Joe
  87. @Buffalo Joe
    These two women should be duct taped to chairs, with their eyes propped open and forced to watch the...'what have the Romans done for us' scene from Monty Python's "The Life of Brian." Someone can link if they wish.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    • Thanks: Voltarde
    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks. Somehow it never gets old.

    Incredible how important the aqueducts were. They were responsible for nearly half of the other items on the list, especially (obviously) sanitation and public health. They could even be seen as contributing to peace and public order.

    And fountains have a calming effect upon agitated city dwellers.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Ach, thank you. stay safe buddy.

  88. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar


    Inuktitut, Inuttitut
     
    Well, we got Indianapolis, Indiana.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Reg Cæsar, @Odin

    Well, we got Indianapolis, Indiana.

    And Minneota, Minnesota.

    Sylvania, Pennsylvania rhymes with its Commonwealth. Troy, Illinois. Sedona, Arizona. Blaine, Maine.

    The last was named for James G Blaine, the only major-party presidential candidate who rhymed with his state. Perhaps Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) will repeat the feat one day.

    York, New York is an identity, not a rhyme.

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    @Reg Cæsar

    People who lament the vapidity and idiocy of modern Presidential politics should be reminded that elections used to be decided by who had the best slogan.

    Grover Cleveland became the only person elected to two, non-consecutive terms, despite an illegitimate child scandal (aka bimbo eruption) because his slogan

    Blaine, Blaine, James G. Blaine!
    The Continental liar from the State of Maine!

    beat out Blaine's:

    Ma, Ma, where's my Pa?
    Gone to the White House, ha ha ha!

    (I guess Blaine lied to Congress about some railroad scam, or something)

  89. @Reg Cæsar

    writer and arts consultant Soraya Peerbaye
     
    She was born to Mauritians in London-- that cold, flat, boring London between Detroit and Buffalo. Where J Philippe Rushton was exiled.

    Nêhiyaw-Michif (Cree-Métis) baritone Jonathon Adams
     
    Jonathon-- the bathroom race! He should change it to Ta-Nêhiyaw Cree-Métis, and get all kinds of grants in the US.

    a “commentary on what it means to be Two-Spirit and Indigenous in Alberta.”
     
    Canada's Supreme Court has been more successful at imposing Two-Spirit Marriage on their Indigenous than ours has:

    Same-sex marriage is performed and recognized by law in all fifty states of the USA and in the District of Columbia, in all overseas territories except American Samoa, and in all tribal nations that do not have their own marriage laws, as well as in most nations that do. The largest of the dozen or so known exceptions among the federal reservations are Navajo and Gila River, and the largest among the shared-sovereignty Oklahoma Tribal Statistical Areas are the Creek, Choctaw, Chickasaw and Citizen Potawatomi. These polities ban same-sex marriage and do not recognize marriages from other jurisdictions, though members may still marry under state law and be accorded all the rights of marriage under state and federal law.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage#cite_ref-usa_59-0


     

    Natural ability without education has more often attained to glory and virtue than education without natural ability. -Cicero, statesman, orator, writer (106-43 B.C)

    Replies: @LP5, @Peter D. Bredon

    Natural ability without education has more often attained to glory and virtue than education without natural ability. -Cicero, statesman, orator, writer (106-43 B.C)

    That would be an excellent comeback to have on hand for those tiresomely frequent occurrences of the “people with at least some level of college education support” Biden, Democrats, open borders, compulsory vaxx, etc. or the corresponding “Trump etc. most popular among those without college.”

  90. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack D

    About the PC terminology in Canada, I've told this story before, but I'll tell it again. I was traveling with about 8 guys, 2 of them Canadian, to a lodge in BC somewhere. The one guy mentioned a number of times that the people leaving the lodge before us were those First Nations people.

    Honestly, as God is my witness, I thought they were talking about BANKERS. Haha, those people won't forget my remark - "Oh, you got a group of bankers staying there right now, eh?" (OK, without the "eh?")

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright

    About the PC terminology in Canada

    How do we know they’re really the first nations? Some of the might have displaced an earlier tribe. We have Cahokia on the Mississippi and many empty pueblos in the Southwest.

    There were no Indians resident in the Green Mountains when the white man settled; other “natives” merely used it as a thoroughfare. So do the remaining Yankees in Vermont constitute a “First Nation”?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Reg Cæsar

    'How do we know they’re really the first nations? Some of the might have displaced an earlier tribe. We have Cahokia on the Mississippi and many empty pueblos in the Southwest...'

    Not to mention what appears to have been some archaic form of Homo Sapiens that our Indians cheerfully exterminated upon their arrival; see 'Kennewick Man.'

    All that got drowned out on the one hand by White Nationalists deciding he was 'Aryan' and on the other hand, the 'First Nations' denying he was anything but just another Indian.

    However, it appears to be real. The archeological record suggests one very old and not particularly numerous wave of settlers. They are then completely eradicated by a second wave. Picture Bantu and Bushmen.

    The eventual conclusion Chatters reached -- before he was forced to recant entirely -- was that Kennewick man was indeed some archaic form -- but not white and not at all Indian. Genetically, his closest relatives were the Ainu.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  91. Scott Adams took an L on the clotshots, publicly admitting they don’t work and intelligent people were correct to reject them. Any knuckleheads here ready to join Dilbert and admit that President Trump’s tiny little Prick is impotent?

    • Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    Even Pfizer acknowledged that the vaccines fail to prevent infections. Israel now has the highest number of cases in the entire planet, despite 90% of their population being triple vaxxed. Studies demonstrate the fourth dose fails to stop Omicron. https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2022/01/18/fourth-covid-vaccine-still-doesnt-stop-omicron-israeli-study/amp/

  92. @The Last Real Calvinist
    On a related note, from The Guardian (aka your preeminent source of NBA news):

    The Dallas Mavericks are consistently white in a black league. Why?

    The gist of the story: how dare the Mavs have more than one or two white players on their roster? That's not the NBA way!

    The opening paragraph, which gives you the flavor:

    In 2020, the NBA was 74.2% black and 16.9% white. It seems every decade, the white NBA player becomes less relevant. Yet one franchise has often kept the dream of mediocre white guys alive: the Dallas Mavericks. In 15 of the last 21 Mavs seasons, there were three or more white players on the 12-man active roster. In more than half of those 15 seasons there were at least four white players, not to mention at least two starting white players. The Mavericks, in the literal sense, do not look like the rest of the league.
     

    Replies: @Charon, @AndrewR, @ScarletNumber, @cosMICjester, @Barnard, @rebel yell, @Forbes, @Colin Wright, @possumman

    ‘In 2020, the NBA was 74.2% black and 16.9% white…’

    That’s gotta be a bogus statistic. 74.2 plus 16.9 is 91.1; 8.9% of the NBA is neither black nor white?

    I know there are or were one or two Chinese basketball players…maybe there’s a giant Hispanic out there. But it adds up to 8.9%? I don’t think so.

  93. @Reg Cæsar
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Well, we got Indianapolis, Indiana.
     
    And Minneota, Minnesota.

    Sylvania, Pennsylvania rhymes with its Commonwealth. Troy, Illinois. Sedona, Arizona. Blaine, Maine.

    The last was named for James G Blaine, the only major-party presidential candidate who rhymed with his state. Perhaps Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) will repeat the feat one day.

    York, New York is an identity, not a rhyme.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    People who lament the vapidity and idiocy of modern Presidential politics should be reminded that elections used to be decided by who had the best slogan.

    Grover Cleveland became the only person elected to two, non-consecutive terms, despite an illegitimate child scandal (aka bimbo eruption) because his slogan

    Blaine, Blaine, James G. Blaine!
    The Continental liar from the State of Maine!

    beat out Blaine’s:

    Ma, Ma, where’s my Pa?
    Gone to the White House, ha ha ha!

    (I guess Blaine lied to Congress about some railroad scam, or something)

  94. @Reg Cæsar
    @Achmed E. Newman


    About the PC terminology in Canada
     
    How do we know they're really the first nations? Some of the might have displaced an earlier tribe. We have Cahokia on the Mississippi and many empty pueblos in the Southwest.


    There were no Indians resident in the Green Mountains when the white man settled; other "natives" merely used it as a thoroughfare. So do the remaining Yankees in Vermont constitute a "First Nation"?

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘How do we know they’re really the first nations? Some of the might have displaced an earlier tribe. We have Cahokia on the Mississippi and many empty pueblos in the Southwest…’

    Not to mention what appears to have been some archaic form of Homo Sapiens that our Indians cheerfully exterminated upon their arrival; see ‘Kennewick Man.’

    All that got drowned out on the one hand by White Nationalists deciding he was ‘Aryan’ and on the other hand, the ‘First Nations’ denying he was anything but just another Indian.

    However, it appears to be real. The archeological record suggests one very old and not particularly numerous wave of settlers. They are then completely eradicated by a second wave. Picture Bantu and Bushmen.

    The eventual conclusion Chatters reached — before he was forced to recant entirely — was that Kennewick man was indeed some archaic form — but not white and not at all Indian. Genetically, his closest relatives were the Ainu.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Colin Wright

    Settlers do more than just fight with the natives. If Kennewick canoodled at all, he'd be the ancestor of every Indian in North America.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Thrallman

  95. “an opportunity to have a conversation”

    No thanks, insane white lady.

    • Thanks: Muggles
  96. On the idea of re-imagining the Hallelujah Chorus as a beach dance party tune:

    It would actually kind of work if you imagine the Beach Boys singing to the tune of “Barbara Ann”

    Ha, ha, ha, hallelujah,
    Ha, ha, ha, hallelujah,
    Hallelujah ah ah!

  97. @Reg Cæsar

    To claim the identity of a white settler scholar, should you have to have personally busted sod?
     
    The last sentence from Parmela Attariwala's bio at the Esker Foundation, which seems to pay for this kind of thing in Calgary:

    "Since 2019, she has been living, with gratitude, on the unceded lands of the Coast Salish peoples."

    PBS's Molly of Denial features short interviews with children from around the continent. These often mention the tribe which preceded the settlers where the kid lives-- Massachusett, Eno, etc. Not as annoying as the Canadian practice-- yet-- but still...

    Inuktitut, Inuttitut
     
    What Canada needs is an Inuktitut-Inuttitut Institute. The latter is spoken in Labrador, which brings up dog breeds again. How come Canada's newest province is honored with two breed names? Is there a single breed named for a US state or another province? Or is all we have the "American Bully"?

    SlowPitchSound’s turntablism
     
    That's a bit pretentious for what a disc jockey does.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Achmed E. Newman, @tyrone, @AndrewR, @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @James J O'Meara

    Inuktitut, Inuttitut

    This reminds me, back in grad school in Canada, I had a classmate who put himself through college (which was dirt cheap back then, anyway) by working as an air traffic controller for 6 months, then quitting and living on unemployment for six months as he attended classes. The market for competent air traffic controllers was so tight you could just quit and expect them to beg you to come back, over and over.

    So part of his lore was that if you screwed up you might get assigned to some airport in the Yukon somewhere, called “Tuktillitiuttuk” or some such thing that I can’t remember the spelling of, and google is no help; ring a bell anyone?

    So that became our way to say someone had f*cked up: “They’ll be sending him to Tuktillitiuttuk”.

    • Replies: @Canadian Observer
    @James J O'Meara

    Tuktoyaktuk!

    Replies: @J.Ross, @James J O'Meara

  98. @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar


    “Since 2019, she has been living, with gratitude, on the unceded lands of the Coast Salish peoples.”
     
    This is a sort of ritual thing for libs in Canada now, like signing your letters Heil Hitler! or saying "in the year of our Lord". If it was original it would be sort of creative but it's not - they all just copy each other's bowing and scraping.

    If I were a Coast Salish person, this would just annoy me more (but it's not about the Coast Salish people, it's about virtue signaling to other Goodwhites). If you are living on my "unceded lands" then how aboot you give me the deed to your condo in Vancouver, the one with the nice quartz countertops and a decent view of the harbor, eh? What, you're not prepared to do that? Then go screw yourself and your empty gestures.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @AnotherDad, @Reg Cæsar

    If you are living on my “unceded lands” then how aboot* you give me the deed to your condo in Vancouver, the one with the nice quartz countertops and a decent view of the harbor, eh?

    But that’s mortgaged to the Chinese, who tore down handsome Victorian mansions to build it. I wouldn’t be surprised if Vancouverites visit San Francisco to see what their city used to look like, as Angelenos do to ride the kind of trolleys that once graced their own hometown.

    (Though a better place to do that would be Kenosha.)

    *To hear the most extreme case of oots-and-aboots, watch any of native Vancouverite JJ McCullough’s videos. Matt Baker of Useful Charts makes videos from the same city, but he’s from Nova Scotia and hardly sounds Canadian at all.

  99. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack D

    About the PC terminology in Canada, I've told this story before, but I'll tell it again. I was traveling with about 8 guys, 2 of them Canadian, to a lodge in BC somewhere. The one guy mentioned a number of times that the people leaving the lodge before us were those First Nations people.

    Honestly, as God is my witness, I thought they were talking about BANKERS. Haha, those people won't forget my remark - "Oh, you got a group of bankers staying there right now, eh?" (OK, without the "eh?")

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright

    ‘…About the PC terminology in Canada, I’ve told this story before, but I’ll tell it again. I was traveling with about 8 guys, 2 of them Canadian, to a lodge in BC somewhere. The one guy mentioned a number of times that the people leaving the lodge before us were those First Nations people…’

    They do have a lot of dot-Indians up there. ‘First Nations’ at least avoids that confusion.

    …we’re starting to confront the same thing. Dot-Indians are starting to all but literally come out of the woodwork down here.

    …and there’ll be a lot more. There are a billion Indians — and we’ve got a long way to sink before coming here is no longer preferable to staying in India.

  100. @The Last Real Calvinist
    On a related note, from The Guardian (aka your preeminent source of NBA news):

    The Dallas Mavericks are consistently white in a black league. Why?

    The gist of the story: how dare the Mavs have more than one or two white players on their roster? That's not the NBA way!

    The opening paragraph, which gives you the flavor:

    In 2020, the NBA was 74.2% black and 16.9% white. It seems every decade, the white NBA player becomes less relevant. Yet one franchise has often kept the dream of mediocre white guys alive: the Dallas Mavericks. In 15 of the last 21 Mavs seasons, there were three or more white players on the 12-man active roster. In more than half of those 15 seasons there were at least four white players, not to mention at least two starting white players. The Mavericks, in the literal sense, do not look like the rest of the league.
     

    Replies: @Charon, @AndrewR, @ScarletNumber, @cosMICjester, @Barnard, @rebel yell, @Forbes, @Colin Wright, @possumman

    Not enough Basketball-Americans?

  101. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Buffalo Joe

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQ

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Buffalo Joe

    Thanks. Somehow it never gets old.

    Incredible how important the aqueducts were. They were responsible for nearly half of the other items on the list, especially (obviously) sanitation and public health. They could even be seen as contributing to peace and public order.

    And fountains have a calming effect upon agitated city dwellers.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  102. @Wilkey
    The reality of major performance groups is that it ain't good the audience will stop coming. Thanks to COVID, a very large percentage of the audience already isn't coming. A lot of the audience for classical music tends to be on the older side that's most vulnerable to COVID, anyway. They aren't showing up. And I would guess that they're starting to wonder whether their audience size will ever return to pre-COVID levels.

    The other reality is that for many orchestras and theaters a very large percentage of their budget - perhaps even an absolute majority - comes from government grants, corporate grants, and from foundations. So they're basically being subsidized to produce shit. Eventually those funders will catch on, but it may take a while.

    One major, already very woke theatre in my city got even more woke after the overdose of St George the Prophet of Floyd's (Peace and Fentanyl Be Upon Him). They decided to make at least half their cast minority (though magically all but one of their full-time staff is still pasty white). They ended selling far less than half their seats. They responded by making all of their seating general admission, so that no one can see online how shitty their ticket sales are.

    Replies: @eded, @Harry Baldwin, @The Wild Geese Howard

    So they’re basically being subsidized to produce shit.

    Let’s see how that strategy worked out for Netflix (NFLX):

    https://yhoo.it/35eYw0d

    Oh my….that escalated quickly!

  103. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Buffalo Joe

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQ

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Buffalo Joe

    Ach, thank you. stay safe buddy.

  104. So, are we gonna have a war with Russia about Ukraine or not?

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Paperback Writer


    So, are we gonna have a war with Russia about Ukraine or not?
     
    With apologies to Ukrainians, Ukraine appears to be America's bitch-slut. For Democrats anyway.

    First, Hunter Biden shows up with papa threatening them with no more boodle unless they stop investigating his obvious grift. That seemed to work.

    Then, among other things, we drag some of their corrupt politicos into our dog fight by having Queen Nancy (Pelosi) undertake a second doomed (and a ratings failure) impeachment proceeding against Trump involving some kind of phone call to someone in Kyiv (formerly, last year, Kiev).

    Even now no one can explain what that was about. Ratings tanked, so it got cancelled quick.

    Now out of thin air, Putin moving around some Russian troops lately (to keep them warm, it gets cold there sitting around!) near their borders has Winken, Blinken and Nod saber rattling. (I'll let you figure out who is whom...)

    Ukrainians are just waiting for their checks to clear. No one knows why we would fight over Ukraine anyway. Most of the good ones, mainly Jews, have long since departed.

    But poor tatted up Kyiv lets us use it as a distraction from Nod's numerous failures.

    "Look a squirrel near the Kharkiv border! Let's move some missiles into Estonia!"

    Poor bitch Ukraine is just happy to be noticed. So sad...
  105. Canada used to represent a more laid back version of America. What we would be if we had a little less wealth and less military ambitions. They could have a really nice, quiet country that no one would ever invade.

    Yet such people became neurotic status-strivers. Sad.

    • Agree: AKAHorace
    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Thea


    Yet such people became neurotic status-strivers. Sad.
     
    I for one say we need to stop the ongoing flood of Canadian entertainers from monopolizing American TV, film, music, theater, streaming and most of US hockey teams!

    We should be building a wall up north, to stem the tide of mostly European heritage Canuk invaders.

    About 50 miles along the border between NY and Toronto should be enough, eh.
    , @James J O'Meara
    @Thea

    That's a pretty good description of Canada 1.0

    In the 40s Canada was so boring that McLuhan (back from Oxford) wrote to Wyndham Lewis (in exile at my alma mater in Ontario) that what Canada needed was to "import several million Jews" just to shake the place up.

    I think the key may be that Ontario was a Presbyterian stronghold, back when Toronto was mocked as "Toronto the Good," meaning the gimlet-eyed Puritanism that Yarvin attributes to the Ivy Leagues.

    For example, they didn't do Prohibition (and were happy to sell whisky to Al Capone), but even into the 80s had all kinds of restrictions, from special "Liquor Control" stores where alcohol was sold like a drug store or library (pictures of the wares, fill out a slip, wait till it came out on a roller) to separate "Beer Stores" located on the outskirts of town to be inconvenient (people simply bought mass quantities, 24 packs called "suitcases" as you can see stacked up behind Bob & Doug McKensie on the SCTV skits), to curtain on windows of pubs (so women wouldn't faint if they looked in on the debauchery) and even separate men's and couples' sides (one for hard drinkers, the other for families, like a pub).

    Weirdly, the drinking age was 18, while in Michigan it was 21. So when I arrived as a 17 year old freshman, I could drink at the student pub (and elsewhere since no one checked ID). Yet Detroit was the hellhole.

    Anyway I think that's the key, the sniffy Presbyterianism morphs nicely into PC madness. Different obsessions, but the same oppressiveness. Canada went from Puritanism to PC like the USA went from barbarism to decadence, without passing through civilization.

  106. @Buffalo Joe
    My soon to be two years old grand daughter stays with us on Fridays. I gave her a rocking horse, which is behind me as I type. When she rides I find a video of the William Tell Overture and she rocks to that stirring beat that played over the 'Lone Ranger' TV show of my youth. The video we use is of a Japanese orchestra, she always points and says..."That one." Every member of the orchestra, including the conductor, is Japanese. Can't people just enjoy the classics, whether art or music, without having a shit fit over the past...1742. Canada is known for, hmmm, oh yeah, maple syrup and a vast country and little or no influence in the world. Now, if you were wondering why they call their dollar the "looney" reread the article.

    Replies: @Forbes, @martin_2

    little or no influence in the world

    Well, Banting and Best, two Canadians, did discover the cause of diabetes.

    • Thanks: Buffalo Joe
  107. @Auld Alliance

    “to create non-hierarchical environments where the artistic inquiries of Indigenous artists and artists of colour can take place.” Engaging in “wider conversations about the experiences of Indigenous people, people of colour, and other equity-seeking communities” will enable orchestras to “cultivate equal and reciprocal relationships that meaningfully support current artistic inquiries.”
     
    Surely - and this is actually just a minor example - the paramount tale for our times has to be "the Emperor`s New Clothes".

    Children should be taught it and told that the tale of the Emperor and his "clothes" is a metaphor for the academic world.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Auld, thank you for your comment and to those who don’t understand the term, what you high lighted is called “Word Salad.” Thank you again.

  108. @Buffalo Joe
    @Altai

    Altai, Canada, where they turn every declarative sentence into a question, eh?

    Replies: @Dube, @JohnnyWalker123

    Canada, where they turn every declarative sentence into a question, eh?

    BJoe, when have you ever heard a question mark after a Canadian “eh”? Rarely for me. They’re not really asking; it’s simply an “eh,” you see. Emphatically declarative.

    I hypothesize that it came from two paddlers in one canoe having to coordinate strokes.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Dube

    Dube, ok, eh.....?

    Replies: @Dube

  109. @eded
    Notice the new woke Canadianism "equity-seeking communities". I've
    seen it a few times in Canadian media.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    eded, Yes, Oh Canada, so very important in their own minds. I remember sitting in the Thunder Bay, Ontario airport waiting for my flight back to Toronto and reading an op-ed by the TB mayor condeming Trump as a racist xenophobe, and then reading, in the same paper articles about Canada’s mistreatment of their Indigenous people. What is that old saying…’Can’t see the nose on their own face.’

  110. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    (but it’s not about the Coast Salish people, it’s about virtue signaling to other Goodwhites)
     
    "Goodwhites" like Parmela Attariwala?

    To be clear, i'm in agreement with you here--and you stated it well.

    But in her case it carries a whole lot of "immigrant asshole" vibe. It's a way for her to say "I'm very sad, that those evil white people stole your land ... it wasn't me!" while plopping her fat brown Indian ass down on the land white Canadians settled and sucking on the tit of the nation they built.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Jack D, @martin_2

    Jared Taylor made two excellent points regarding recent immigrants to the USA who claim that White Americans stole the land from the Red Indians and that therefore they have no right to limit immigration…

    1. If you believe that America was stolen, then you must believe that you too are living and benefitting from living on stolen land, and surely therefore the only moral thing for you to do is to return home to your own country, since otherwise you are benefitting from stolen property. If I learned that I was using stolen property I would want to return it to its rightful owner. You, on the other hand, are a bad person because you don’t want to do that.

    2. If America was stolen from the Red Indians and really belongs to the Red Indians, then surely it should be the Red Indians and only the Red Indians that determine immigration policy. Not people like you. Not only do you live on stolen land but you have the temerity to want to have a say on who shall and shall not live there!

  111. @Gordo
    Didn’t Jack Aubrey’s chaplain on the Gloucester have a great way with music and got the hands to sing the ‘Messiah’?

    With luck it’ll survive this nonsense and we will have our countries and our culture back.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Gordo, good luck with that. you really don’t think this type of culture is being taught in public schools.

  112. @El Dato
    I made a goodwill gesture of trying to understand what was being said but I gave up. I can only read it in monodromatic high pitch pansexualese, which is stressful.

    And what is "coloniality"?

    Meanwhile on Amazon (such a colonial company name indeed!)

    https://www.amazon.com/Hungry-Listening-Indigenous-Americas-Robinson/dp/1517907691/

    Bomber reviews:

    "In this brilliant and wide-ranging work, Dylan Robinson refuses to write about anything. Instead he demonstrates what it means at the practical, ethical, and political levels to write relationally with other living beings, including music, sound, belongings, languages, lands, ancestors, and readers. In method and content, Hungry Listening is a challenge to settler colonial sensory and political orders as well as a powerful affirmation of Indigenous thought, practice, and art."
     
    —Beth Piatote, author of The Beadworkers and Domestic Subjects

    "Hungry Listening is a necessary and creative confrontation of the consequences of settler colonialism for Indigenous music and sound territories. Offering a robust critique of inclusionary performance as settler mis-audation, Dylan Robinson forwards a transformative politics of listening, a practice of guest listening that refuses capture and certainty. At once playful and intensely serious, Hungry Listening experiments with affective event scores and forms of direct address to allow readers to imagine approaches to visiting with Indigenous sound and performance."
     
    —Eve Tuck, University of Toronto

    "Dylan Robinson employs a xwélméxw (Stó:lo) reading, listening, and thinking practice to enact a decolonial critique of the ‘sonic encounters’ between Indigenous vocal traditions and Western classical and popular music. Hungry Listening, by one of the field’s most generous, perceptive, visionary, and generative scholars, will be a game changer in the areas of Indigenous, sound, and performance studies."
     
    —Michelle Raheja, author of Reservation Reelism: Redfacing, Visual Sovereignty, and Representations of Native Americans in Film

    "All this useless knowledge!!"
     
    -- The Biologist in "Annihilation"

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    I was at a talk at our local Pohunk library given by a young local academic who was doing “research” into local folk tales. She talked about how different tales had different “tellability”, which was a new piece of jargon for me. The entire talk was filled with this serious sounding twaddle, and most of the audience was baffled.

  113. @the one they call Desanex
    The Messiah of George Frideric Handel:
    To it can nothing else hold a candle.
    “That’s not fair!” said the Devil,
    “Drag it down to your level.
    Don’t create for yourself; be a vandal!”

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @James Speaks

    The Messiah of George Frideric Handel:
    To it can nothing else hold a candle.

    The Oratorio for St Paul
    Also bestows awe
    On those not inclined
    To monkey talk in beastly rhymes

  114. When I was nine I was able to explore a dozen lava tubes in northern California with my dad. Many beautiful features: lava curtains, stalactites, stalagmites, ice. We walked a quarter mile down one to the end at a glassy pool of ice. Wow, but? Some yokel had left a dump at its center! On our way out we met a grimacing park ranger coming down with a shovel and a bucket That was my prototype for the barbarian defacing of civilizational achievement. Felt the same, for example, when reading about things like the (supposed) destruction of the Library of Alexandria.

    That image of the poop blighting natural magnificence always comes to my mind when iSteve writes about wokels with their childish ideas and mediocre minds rummaging through the masterpieces of Western civilization for social media clicks and disgracefully fake bids for lifelong academic tenure.

  115. In keeping with Soundstreams’s mandate to showcase the work of living composers, the company made minimal changes to the texts. Instead, the artists fit these texts with new music with influences from electronic dance music, pop, and hip hop.

    I don’t think these people have ever listened to Handel’s Messiah. They would choke on the words.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    @mc23

    I rather think they want to “reimagine” the Hallelujah Chorus but don’t realize there’s more to The Messiah than that.

  116. Controversy over a performance of Messiah in Israel about forty years ago led to a religious split that has political repercussions to this day. Nothing to do with Wokeness, though- quite the opposite.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Nachum

    Nachum, controversy with the Israelites and THE Messiah 2000 plus years ago still has reprecussions today.

    Replies: @Nachum

  117. @James J O'Meara
    @Reg Cæsar


    Inuktitut, Inuttitut
     
    This reminds me, back in grad school in Canada, I had a classmate who put himself through college (which was dirt cheap back then, anyway) by working as an air traffic controller for 6 months, then quitting and living on unemployment for six months as he attended classes. The market for competent air traffic controllers was so tight you could just quit and expect them to beg you to come back, over and over.

    So part of his lore was that if you screwed up you might get assigned to some airport in the Yukon somewhere, called "Tuktillitiuttuk" or some such thing that I can't remember the spelling of, and google is no help; ring a bell anyone?

    So that became our way to say someone had f*cked up: "They'll be sending him to Tuktillitiuttuk".

    Replies: @Canadian Observer

    Tuktoyaktuk!

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Canadian Observer

    Why does Canadian northern architecture not use wood A-frames or even wood kraals (small outbuildings sharing one outer circular wall, leaving a sprocket-shaped negative space in the middle, and that open space could contain a central fire)? Scandinavians use wood because it insulates. Every Canadian northern residence I've ever seen has been a flat-topped one-storey box made out of materials which look like they don't insulate as well as wood (eg, windows). Is that just poverty and scarcity of materials?

    Replies: @AKAHorace, @AKAHorace

    , @James J O'Meara
    @Canadian Observer

    Easy for you to say. Thanks!

    According to Wikipedia, "The settlement lies north of the Arctic Circle on the shores of the Arctic Ocean, and is the only community in Canada on the Arctic Ocean that is connected to the rest of Canada by road. Formerly known as Port Brabant, the community was renamed in 1950 and was the first place in Canada to revert to the traditional Indigenous name." So it's not just on topic, but kinda the "trope namer" of the subject.

  118. @David
    @Altai

    almost all wokeness was and continues to be invented by people in America

    I was attending high school in Parry Sound in 1984 when the CBC sent a Jewish producer and director there to film a TV movie, Hockey Night, written by a Jew. The story is: an unfortunate Jewish woman, recently divorced, relocates to the town, with her [then] teenage heartthrob of a daughter, Megan Follows. The local hockey coach, Jewish, naturally, played by Rick Moranis, recognizes her staggering skills as a goalie, and teaches the backward locals about open-mindedness and gender equality -- in the face of dismissive, chauvinist WASP sponsors who only care about money -- by bringing her into the big game, where, naturally, she triumphs.

    Every aspect of the town was derided and denigrated, and the locals, having welcomed the attention, and assisted the production in countless ways, felt seriously hard done-by when the film aired. No one could understand why a government broadcaster would so unfairly present and critique the town, but one thing was sure: everyone felt a little worse about himself, his town, and his people.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Anonymous, @James J O'Meara

    I was attending high school in Parry Sound in 1984 when the CBC sent a Jewish producer and director there to film a TV movie …

    Every aspect of the town was derided and denigrated, and the locals, having welcomed the attention, and assisted the production in countless ways, felt seriously hard done-by when the film aired.

    That’s every other Hollyweird production during my entire life.

    “Denigrate the goyim” is apparently their zeroth commandment.

    Yet f0r 70+ now there’s a nation–with not just a pleasant Mediterranean climate but actual Mediterranean beaches too–run specifically by Jews for Jews in the land they claim God promised them 3000 years ago, where they can build their own for themselves and their posterity … yet despite all the continually “rising anti-Semitism” and terrible oppression they face, they just never seem to want tear themselves away from us..

    Turns out middle manning–lawyering, professing, hawking, trading, editorializing, movie-making, policking, bureaucrating …–in these pleasant and prosperous nations we goyishe kopfs create is actually the core “Jewish value”. (Just so long as we remember that we are stupid, oppressive, a*holes and lucky to have them as our betters.)

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @AnotherDad

    If they didn't reflexively denigrate they might eventually assimilate. Prior to recognizable Judaism, every Levantine tradition bled into every other Levantine tradition. Jewish supremacism is a golem which, like all golem, once served a purpose.

  119. they just internalise being more progressive and agreeable in contrast to the US

    I think that one of the les s obvious unfortunate effects of America’s dominance in 1945 .was that other Western nations often felt a bit of the little brother syndrome and tried to show they were better more civilized than the US by being … nicer, fairer, etc.

    So we then had
    a) America pumping out the minoritarian propaganda
    b) Other Western nations trying to prove that they were nicer, more civilized places than “racist” and “cowboy” America, by outdoing us with the minoritarian breast beating bullshit. (Not undersdtanding that America was actually “racist” not because of some flaw in the America character but simply because our legacy of slavery is just a very hard problem–real, deep genetic differences–to deal with.)

    • Agree: mc23
    • Replies: @AKAHorace
    @AnotherDad


    Other Western nations trying to prove that they were nicer, more civilized places than “racist” and “cowboy” America, by outdoing us with the minoritarian breast beating bullshit.
     
    This seems to be stronger in countries that are on the margins of the west: e.g. Sweden, Canada, Ireland. Perhaps we have to prove that we are not ignorant rubes and so go all in on whatever the progressive theories are, showing that we are cosmopolitan and civilized by outwoking the US.

    Replies: @Somsel

  120. @mc23

    In keeping with Soundstreams’s mandate to showcase the work of living composers, the company made minimal changes to the texts. Instead, the artists fit these texts with new music with influences from electronic dance music, pop, and hip hop.
     
    I don't think these people have ever listened to Handel's Messiah. They would choke on the words.

    Replies: @James Speaks

    I rather think they want to “reimagine” the Hallelujah Chorus but don’t realize there’s more to The Messiah than that.

  121. @Dube
    @Buffalo Joe

    Canada, where they turn every declarative sentence into a question, eh?

    BJoe, when have you ever heard a question mark after a Canadian "eh"? Rarely for me. They're not really asking; it's simply an "eh," you see. Emphatically declarative.

    I hypothesize that it came from two paddlers in one canoe having to coordinate strokes.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Dube, ok, eh…..?

    • Replies: @Dube
    @Buffalo Joe

    Dube, ok, eh…..?

    LOL. But I should have posted,


    Emphatically declarative, eh.
     
    No question mark at all, eh.

    But I am culturally appropriating. (Where is Canadian outrage?) There must be some real studies on this.

    I recall up in the gold country, at a posh inn, a mining engineer type and a lovely, meticulously attired lady manager got into a friendly Canadian conversation with the eh's bouncing like ping pong balls, and it struck me that the expression seemed more becoming from a man, but almost unladylike for a woman. Like a cordial nudge, eh. But I'm being broadened by travel.
  122. @Nachum
    Controversy over a performance of Messiah in Israel about forty years ago led to a religious split that has political repercussions to this day. Nothing to do with Wokeness, though- quite the opposite.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Nachum, controversy with the Israelites and THE Messiah 2000 plus years ago still has reprecussions today.

    • Replies: @Nachum
    @Buffalo Joe

    Well played.

  123. @Colin Wright
    @Reg Cæsar

    'How do we know they’re really the first nations? Some of the might have displaced an earlier tribe. We have Cahokia on the Mississippi and many empty pueblos in the Southwest...'

    Not to mention what appears to have been some archaic form of Homo Sapiens that our Indians cheerfully exterminated upon their arrival; see 'Kennewick Man.'

    All that got drowned out on the one hand by White Nationalists deciding he was 'Aryan' and on the other hand, the 'First Nations' denying he was anything but just another Indian.

    However, it appears to be real. The archeological record suggests one very old and not particularly numerous wave of settlers. They are then completely eradicated by a second wave. Picture Bantu and Bushmen.

    The eventual conclusion Chatters reached -- before he was forced to recant entirely -- was that Kennewick man was indeed some archaic form -- but not white and not at all Indian. Genetically, his closest relatives were the Ainu.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Settlers do more than just fight with the natives. If Kennewick canoodled at all, he’d be the ancestor of every Indian in North America.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Reg Cæsar

    'Settlers do more than just fight with the natives. If Kennewick canoodled at all, he’d be the ancestor of every Indian in North America.'

    That's an argument -- but perhaps there's some archaic DNA mixed in with modern American Indians.

    Then too, how much interbreeding has occurred between Bantu and Pygmies? If the two groups are different enough, there might not be much. I might very well sleep with Miss Pakistan, but I'd draw the line at an Australian Aborigine.

    The first Indian Indians appear to have been big game hunters -- Clovis Man and such. They spread across the Americas, exterminating all the vulnerable large herbivores. Kennewick man and his kin might have been what was for dinner, not who the new clan member is.

    In any case, it can hardly be ruled out that there were two waves of settlement -- and what evidence exists is that there were, and that they differed genetically. Hence Kennewick Man.

    ...or you can decide he wasn't there, because it screws up the 'First Nations' narrative.

    , @Thrallman
    @Reg Cæsar

    That depends on the scenario. Was Kennewick Man a visitor to a country already inhabited by Clovis people? Or was he the sole discovered specimen of a tribe that the Clovis wiped out?

  124. Don’t worry about us. This country has become a shithole. Turn to things worth fighting for.

  125. @Adfhhj sghjkyf
    First Nations Indigians produced some wonderful songs - both of them!

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted

    First Nation Indigians. In other words, the IndigNations.

  126. Hey, already covered by the film “Jesus Christ Superstar” with a black Judas Iscariot, played by Carl Anderson, who also appeared as “Eldridge” on “Hill Street Blues”.

    They can’t create masterpieces, so they trash the past.

    One of my earliest memories was in 1956, at seven years old, attending a Christmas Eve service, where my mother was a member of the choir performing Handel’s Messiah. We had a tape recorder and captured the performance. Later on, I had a thing for Christmas Eve services and renditions of Messiah.

  127. @eded
    @Wilkey

    "reality is that for many orchestras and theaters a very large percentage of their budget – perhaps even an absolute majority – comes from government grants"

    This is especially true in Canada where Canadian culture is heavily government subsidized and Canadian content is mandated. The old SCTV skit "Bob and Doug Mackenzie" was a spoof of Canadian mandated "Cancon". The difference today is that there are heavy handed diversity mandates included in Canadian cultural subsidies.

    There are artists that fit certain quotas that receive funding to produce work that is then put on the CBC streaming service, CBC GEM, that nobody watches.

    One problem with Canadian culture is that every English-Canadian artist with real talent heads to the US leaving behind mediocrities who live off government subsidies.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Etruscan Film Star

    This is especially true in Canada where Canadian culture is heavily government subsidized

    There is a Canadian cartoonist, Chester Brown, who must have found favor with the government when he did a graphic novel, Louis Riel, about a hero from Canadian history. His next graphic novel was called Paying for It, and was about his experiences going to a number of different prostitutes. This project was financed with a grant from the Canada Council. You could look it up.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Harry Baldwin

    There is a fascinating but as yet unrealized project, documenting the numerous times that socialism managed to make sex boring. Numerous socialist governments and entities have striven to propagate pornography, to normalize no-strings-attached sex with strangers (and especially prostitutes), and to send dissatisfied constituents to legalized prostitution as an alternative to redress of grievances. The result is consistently like sexy GI and boomers preceding sex-rejecting gen X and millennials. The mother of the guy who picked Trotsky's brains was among many other things a slut who toured the politically correct Party party circuit. One of Stalin's few good points was to realize that family values exist for a reason and so to rein in early-Bolshevik sexual tolerance. And of course there's the extreme example, Weimar Berlin (culturally, there was no Weimar Germany). It is a fascinating confirmation of the law that the left ruins everything it touches.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Harry Baldwin


    There is a Canadian cartoonist, Chester Brown
     
    Chester the Protester. You can see why he felt compelled to pay for it:

    https://www.straight.com/files/v3/styles/gs_standard/public/2012/10/BOO_Brown_2264.jpg?itok=Xf8Z3MSE


    https://images.gr-assets.com/authors/1241728466p5/157127.jpg

  128. @Reg Cæsar
    @Colin Wright

    Settlers do more than just fight with the natives. If Kennewick canoodled at all, he'd be the ancestor of every Indian in North America.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Thrallman

    ‘Settlers do more than just fight with the natives. If Kennewick canoodled at all, he’d be the ancestor of every Indian in North America.’

    That’s an argument — but perhaps there’s some archaic DNA mixed in with modern American Indians.

    Then too, how much interbreeding has occurred between Bantu and Pygmies? If the two groups are different enough, there might not be much. I might very well sleep with Miss Pakistan, but I’d draw the line at an Australian Aborigine.

    The first Indian Indians appear to have been big game hunters — Clovis Man and such. They spread across the Americas, exterminating all the vulnerable large herbivores. Kennewick man and his kin might have been what was for dinner, not who the new clan member is.

    In any case, it can hardly be ruled out that there were two waves of settlement — and what evidence exists is that there were, and that they differed genetically. Hence Kennewick Man.

    …or you can decide he wasn’t there, because it screws up the ‘First Nations’ narrative.

  129. Handel did this in 24 days. I wonder what any of these people could accomplish in 24 days. Wiki:

    “The music for Messiah was completed in 24 days of swift composition. Having received Jennens’s text some time after 10 July 1741, Handel began work on it on 22 August. His records show that he had completed Part I in outline by 28 August, Part II by 6 September and Part III by 12 September, followed by two days of “filling up” to produce the finished work on 14 September.”

  130. @AnotherDad

    they just internalise being more progressive and agreeable in contrast to the US
     
    I think that one of the les s obvious unfortunate effects of America's dominance in 1945 .was that other Western nations often felt a bit of the little brother syndrome and tried to show they were better more civilized than the US by being ... nicer, fairer, etc.

    So we then had
    a) America pumping out the minoritarian propaganda
    b) Other Western nations trying to prove that they were nicer, more civilized places than "racist" and "cowboy" America, by outdoing us with the minoritarian breast beating bullshit. (Not undersdtanding that America was actually "racist" not because of some flaw in the America character but simply because our legacy of slavery is just a very hard problem--real, deep genetic differences--to deal with.)

    Replies: @AKAHorace

    Other Western nations trying to prove that they were nicer, more civilized places than “racist” and “cowboy” America, by outdoing us with the minoritarian breast beating bullshit.

    This seems to be stronger in countries that are on the margins of the west: e.g. Sweden, Canada, Ireland. Perhaps we have to prove that we are not ignorant rubes and so go all in on whatever the progressive theories are, showing that we are cosmopolitan and civilized by outwoking the US.

    • Replies: @Somsel
    @AKAHorace

    I've lived outside the USA for 7 years now. I'm aghast at how quickly the local elites pick up and propagate the worst cultural trends from the US.

    One might think our elites show them new tools for screwing over their own countries.

  131. @Buffalo Joe
    @Dube

    Dube, ok, eh.....?

    Replies: @Dube

    Dube, ok, eh…..?

    LOL. But I should have posted,

    Emphatically declarative, eh.

    No question mark at all, eh.

    But I am culturally appropriating. (Where is Canadian outrage?) There must be some real studies on this.

    I recall up in the gold country, at a posh inn, a mining engineer type and a lovely, meticulously attired lady manager got into a friendly Canadian conversation with the eh’s bouncing like ping pong balls, and it struck me that the expression seemed more becoming from a man, but almost unladylike for a woman. Like a cordial nudge, eh. But I’m being broadened by travel.

  132. I lived in Canada for 16 years. Canadian culture is all about conformity to leftist policies — led by Jews. Jews thrive in Canada because it is a post-Christian society where there are no real men — just feminists and cowards. Multiculturalism is Canada’s religion, and the Jews have always been at the lead of promoting societal decay and incoherence. Indeed, so leftist is Canada that I once lost a job for criticizing Canada’s national religion:(multi-racialism/multiculturalism.)

  133. @Harry Baldwin
    @eded

    This is especially true in Canada where Canadian culture is heavily government subsidized

    There is a Canadian cartoonist, Chester Brown, who must have found favor with the government when he did a graphic novel, Louis Riel, about a hero from Canadian history. His next graphic novel was called Paying for It, and was about his experiences going to a number of different prostitutes. This project was financed with a grant from the Canada Council. You could look it up.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Reg Cæsar

    There is a fascinating but as yet unrealized project, documenting the numerous times that socialism managed to make sex boring. Numerous socialist governments and entities have striven to propagate pornography, to normalize no-strings-attached sex with strangers (and especially prostitutes), and to send dissatisfied constituents to legalized prostitution as an alternative to redress of grievances. The result is consistently like sexy GI and boomers preceding sex-rejecting gen X and millennials. The mother of the guy who picked Trotsky’s brains was among many other things a slut who toured the politically correct Party party circuit. One of Stalin’s few good points was to realize that family values exist for a reason and so to rein in early-Bolshevik sexual tolerance. And of course there’s the extreme example, Weimar Berlin (culturally, there was no Weimar Germany). It is a fascinating confirmation of the law that the left ruins everything it touches.

    • Thanks: Harry Baldwin
  134. @Harry Baldwin
    @eded

    This is especially true in Canada where Canadian culture is heavily government subsidized

    There is a Canadian cartoonist, Chester Brown, who must have found favor with the government when he did a graphic novel, Louis Riel, about a hero from Canadian history. His next graphic novel was called Paying for It, and was about his experiences going to a number of different prostitutes. This project was financed with a grant from the Canada Council. You could look it up.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Reg Cæsar

    There is a Canadian cartoonist, Chester Brown

    Chester the Protester. You can see why he felt compelled to pay for it:

  135. @Reg Cæsar
    @Colin Wright

    Settlers do more than just fight with the natives. If Kennewick canoodled at all, he'd be the ancestor of every Indian in North America.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Thrallman

    That depends on the scenario. Was Kennewick Man a visitor to a country already inhabited by Clovis people? Or was he the sole discovered specimen of a tribe that the Clovis wiped out?

  136. @AKAHorace
    @AnotherDad


    Other Western nations trying to prove that they were nicer, more civilized places than “racist” and “cowboy” America, by outdoing us with the minoritarian breast beating bullshit.
     
    This seems to be stronger in countries that are on the margins of the west: e.g. Sweden, Canada, Ireland. Perhaps we have to prove that we are not ignorant rubes and so go all in on whatever the progressive theories are, showing that we are cosmopolitan and civilized by outwoking the US.

    Replies: @Somsel

    I’ve lived outside the USA for 7 years now. I’m aghast at how quickly the local elites pick up and propagate the worst cultural trends from the US.

    One might think our elites show them new tools for screwing over their own countries.

  137. @Buffalo Joe
    @Nachum

    Nachum, controversy with the Israelites and THE Messiah 2000 plus years ago still has reprecussions today.

    Replies: @Nachum

    Well played.

  138. @AndrewR
    @Alfa158

    Some say the end is near
    Some say we'll see Armageddon soon


    I certainly hope we will
    I sure could use a vacation from this
    Bullshit three-ring
    Circus sideshow of
    Freaks
    Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call L.A.
    The only way to fix it is to flush it all away
    Any fucking time, any fucking day
    Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay
    Fret for your figure and
    Fret for your latte and
    Fret for your lawsuit and
    Fret for your hairpiece and
    Fret for your Prozac and
    Fret for your pilot and
    Fret for your contract and
    Fret for your car
    It's a
    Bullshit three-ring
    Circus sideshow of
    Freaks
    Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call L.A.
    The only way to fix it is to flush it all away
    Any fucking time, any fucking day
    Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay
    Some say a comet will fall from the sky
    Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves
    Followed by fault lines that cannot sit still
    Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits
    And some say the end is near
    Some say we'll see Armageddon soon
    I certainly hope we will
    I sure could use a vacation from this
    Stupid shit, silly shit, stupid shit
    One great big festering neon distraction
    I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied
    Learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim
    'Cause Mom's gonna fix it all soon
    Mom's comin' 'round to put it back the way it ought to be
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Fuck L. Ron Hubbard and
    Fuck all his clones
    Fuck all these gun-toting
    Hip gangster wannabes
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Fuck retro anything
    Fuck your tattoos
    Fuck all you junkies and
    Fuck your short memories
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Yeah, fuck smiley glad-hands
    With hidden agendas
    Fuck these dysfunctional
    Insecure actresses
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    Learn to swim, learn to swim
    'Cause I'm praying for rain
    I'm praying for tidal waves
    I wanna see the ground give way
    I wanna watch it all go down
    Mom, please flush it all away
    I wanna see it go right in and down
    I wanna watch it go right in
    Watch you flush it all away
    Yeah, time to bring it down again
    Yeah, don't just call me pessimist
    Try and read between the lines
    I can't imagine why you wouldn't
    Welcome any change, my friend
    I wanna see it come down
    Put it down
    Suck it down
    Flush it down

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    I’ve tried to turn this group onto Tool, with little success.

    Did you see Danny Carey got arrested last week?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Mike Tre

    Seems like a minor incident. I'm glad he got to play the halftime show first.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

  139. My country is such an embarrassment to me. Canada has been ruled by the vile Liberals effectively since the 1890’s and they have ruined the country.

  140. @David
    @Altai

    almost all wokeness was and continues to be invented by people in America

    I was attending high school in Parry Sound in 1984 when the CBC sent a Jewish producer and director there to film a TV movie, Hockey Night, written by a Jew. The story is: an unfortunate Jewish woman, recently divorced, relocates to the town, with her [then] teenage heartthrob of a daughter, Megan Follows. The local hockey coach, Jewish, naturally, played by Rick Moranis, recognizes her staggering skills as a goalie, and teaches the backward locals about open-mindedness and gender equality -- in the face of dismissive, chauvinist WASP sponsors who only care about money -- by bringing her into the big game, where, naturally, she triumphs.

    Every aspect of the town was derided and denigrated, and the locals, having welcomed the attention, and assisted the production in countless ways, felt seriously hard done-by when the film aired. No one could understand why a government broadcaster would so unfairly present and critique the town, but one thing was sure: everyone felt a little worse about himself, his town, and his people.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Anonymous, @James J O'Meara

    Similar to those Jesus Camp people, who invited a pair of NYC liberals into their community to make a documentary, completely oblivious to the fact that these people were not their friends.

  141. Peter Jackson should consider a sequel to ‘Get Back’ – ‘Get Black’ (obviously) – in which the Fab Four jam with Indigenous Cave Dwellers (still subsisting near a colonised Abbey Road studios) producing a fusion of feathers, wails, incantations, rain dance, and Ringo with the back beat, culminating in The Black Album, and its greatest hit ‘Ob La Di, Ob La Da’, which we now recognise as an original Aztec chant often sung by priests prior to human sacrifice.

  142. @Mike Tre
    @AndrewR

    I’ve tried to turn this group onto Tool, with little success.

    Did you see Danny Carey got arrested last week?

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Seems like a minor incident. I’m glad he got to play the halftime show first.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @AndrewR

    Agreed. Probably mask nonsense at the airport. I got tickets to see them in March

  143. @AnotherDad
    @David


    I was attending high school in Parry Sound in 1984 when the CBC sent a Jewish producer and director there to film a TV movie ...

    Every aspect of the town was derided and denigrated, and the locals, having welcomed the attention, and assisted the production in countless ways, felt seriously hard done-by when the film aired.
     

    That's every other Hollyweird production during my entire life.

    "Denigrate the goyim" is apparently their zeroth commandment.

    Yet f0r 70+ now there's a nation--with not just a pleasant Mediterranean climate but actual Mediterranean beaches too--run specifically by Jews for Jews in the land they claim God promised them 3000 years ago, where they can build their own for themselves and their posterity ... yet despite all the continually "rising anti-Semitism" and terrible oppression they face, they just never seem to want tear themselves away from us..

    Turns out middle manning--lawyering, professing, hawking, trading, editorializing, movie-making, policking, bureaucrating ...--in these pleasant and prosperous nations we goyishe kopfs create is actually the core "Jewish value". (Just so long as we remember that we are stupid, oppressive, a*holes and lucky to have them as our betters.)

    Replies: @J.Ross

    If they didn’t reflexively denigrate they might eventually assimilate. Prior to recognizable Judaism, every Levantine tradition bled into every other Levantine tradition. Jewish supremacism is a golem which, like all golem, once served a purpose.

  144. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    Scott Adams took an L on the clotshots, publicly admitting they don't work and intelligent people were correct to reject them. Any knuckleheads here ready to join Dilbert and admit that President Trump's tiny little Prick is impotent?

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    Even Pfizer acknowledged that the vaccines fail to prevent infections. Israel now has the highest number of cases in the entire planet, despite 90% of their population being triple vaxxed. Studies demonstrate the fourth dose fails to stop Omicron. https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2022/01/18/fourth-covid-vaccine-still-doesnt-stop-omicron-israeli-study/amp/

  145. @Canadian Observer
    @James J O'Meara

    Tuktoyaktuk!

    Replies: @J.Ross, @James J O'Meara

    Why does Canadian northern architecture not use wood A-frames or even wood kraals (small outbuildings sharing one outer circular wall, leaving a sprocket-shaped negative space in the middle, and that open space could contain a central fire)? Scandinavians use wood because it insulates. Every Canadian northern residence I’ve ever seen has been a flat-topped one-storey box made out of materials which look like they don’t insulate as well as wood (eg, windows). Is that just poverty and scarcity of materials?

    • Replies: @AKAHorace
    @J.Ross


    Every Canadian northern residence I’ve ever seen has been a flat-topped one-storey box made out of materials which look like they don’t insulate as well as wood (eg, windows). Is that just poverty and scarcity of materials?
     
    Because we follow progressive America in ideology, art and architecture. Our downtown cities are full of enormous glass boxes. In the suburbs pedestrians share slippery ice covered roads with cars. If we build like Californians soon we will get their good looks and climate.

    Replies: @ntn

    , @AKAHorace
    @J.Ross

    Also you might find the following article interesting.

    A quote

    While Livesey isn’t so cynical to think that Canadian architecture as a whole is a chore to look at, he sees many newer private-sector buildings suffering from similar ailments: too much glass, cheap building envelopes, subpar insulation, uninspired design. Canada’s downtowns are still stuffed with cranes piecing together gleaming towers with floor-to-ceiling glass—a design choice that sucks up excessive amounts of electricity in both the summer and winter months. Private developers push for this kind of design because it is relatively easy and inexpensive to construct; it almost always get approved by cities; and when combined with cheap materials, it is the quickest way to get returns into the pockets of promoters and investors.

    https://thewalrus.ca/why-is-canadian-architecture-so-bad/#

  146. @notsaying
    Oh lord, this is too much for me at 4:43am.

    I think Western classical music and art, too, have alot to offer and that it is too bad all kids in school are not given appreciation courses so they have some idea of our many achievements and can take pleasure in our visual and musical creations. We certainly see the value and importance of teaching our history and English language literature to kids and we should give them the great gift of teaching them about our art and music.

    This is what I would like to see art groups do: get the public more educated and involved so attendance of nonelites goes up.

    I cannot imagine all the guilt and Woke talk in this article is of any interest to anybody in Canada who is not already greatly involved in the arts. It is a teeny tiny number of nonwhites getting involved with a very small number of whites.

    As for native people and the arts, I have no idea what they want. Instead of getting more involved with our art and music, doe might rprefer to try to continue on with what to their ancestors ddid.T here will never be any getting away from white people in Western art and mudomc. If we don't want a world where eventually everything seems the same, it seems like a good idea to try to preserve what other people do and to get them to try new things, too.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    We certainly see the value and importance of teaching our history and English language literature to kids

    We do?

  147. 2 dirty little secrets:

    There have been four successive, identifiable cultural groups in North America before the Europeans. Each new group replaced the previous group precipitously, with the latter leaving no trace. That sounds like genocide to me. The Europeans for the most part did not commit genocide.

    Many descendants of the pre-Europeans were incorporated into North American society and eventually intermarried. Take a look at the family album if it goes back to the early decades of the 19th century. Some of those people had mighty obvious Indian features.

    Genes get traded back and forth. Cultural differences remain.

  148. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar


    Inuktitut, Inuttitut
     
    Well, we got Indianapolis, Indiana.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Reg Cæsar, @Odin

    Inuktitut, Inuttitut

    Well, we got Indianapolis, Indiana.

    Yabbut we’ve had Saskatoon, Saskatchewan since, like, forever.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Odin

    Oh, yeah. I forgot about that one! At least the city doesn't rhyme with a female body part, so good pick for the capital.

  149. 1952: largely high school-educated music aficionados shocked to hear soloists adding barely perceptible inflections to their performance

    2022: drum machines and wholesale substitutions to the score roundly praised by musicology PhD recipients who only recently learned that Handel was not in fact Gretel’s brother.

  150. @Mr. Anon
    @Reg Cæsar


    “Since 2019, she has been living, with gratitude, on the unceded lands of the Coast Salish peoples.”
     
    This is not just a ritual thing in Canada, as Jack D pointed out. It is becoming a ritual in the US too.

    This even broke into the news last year when on a zoom call, a bunch of Department of the Interior employees all started out by saying what tribes lands they lived on. I guess this was done to highlight just how woke the new Brandon administration was going to be. Of course the Democrats still really don't care about Indians.

    Isn't acknowledging that they live on stolen land make it worse? Aren't they just straight-up colonists themselves at that point? If they really think the land is stolen, why don't they get the Hell off of it?

    Replies: @Charlotte

    It’s not just the DOI; the cool people at other agencies are doing it as well. Lots of federal government facilities sit on land acquired by eminent domain. Sometimes taken from BIPOCs. I gleefully await the uproar when some BLM activist demands to know why the agency didn’t acknowledge stealing the land from black folk at below market value. It’s veritable redlining!

  151. It is cultural appropration for POCs to play in orchestras or listen to classical music. As such, only whites and Asians (who are honorary whites according to Harvard) should be allowed to play or listen to classical music.

  152. @Odin
    @Achmed E. Newman



    Inuktitut, Inuttitut
     
    Well, we got Indianapolis, Indiana.
     
    Yabbut we've had Saskatoon, Saskatchewan since, like, forever.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Oh, yeah. I forgot about that one! At least the city doesn’t rhyme with a female body part, so good pick for the capital.

  153. @AndrewR
    @Mike Tre

    Seems like a minor incident. I'm glad he got to play the halftime show first.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    Agreed. Probably mask nonsense at the airport. I got tickets to see them in March

  154. @rebel yell
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Well, we got Indianapolis, Indiana.
     
    These racist names must be changed. How about Indigenous Peopleopolis, Indigenous Peopleana?

    Replies: @Muggles

    These racist names must be changed. How about Indigenous Peopleopolis, Indigenous Peopleana?

    No, they should be from the true ancestral homeland, Siberia.

    Yakuska, Oymyakon, etc.

  155. @Paperback Writer
    So, are we gonna have a war with Russia about Ukraine or not?

    Replies: @Muggles

    So, are we gonna have a war with Russia about Ukraine or not?

    With apologies to Ukrainians, Ukraine appears to be America’s bitch-slut. For Democrats anyway.

    First, Hunter Biden shows up with papa threatening them with no more boodle unless they stop investigating his obvious grift. That seemed to work.

    Then, among other things, we drag some of their corrupt politicos into our dog fight by having Queen Nancy (Pelosi) undertake a second doomed (and a ratings failure) impeachment proceeding against Trump involving some kind of phone call to someone in Kyiv (formerly, last year, Kiev).

    Even now no one can explain what that was about. Ratings tanked, so it got cancelled quick.

    Now out of thin air, Putin moving around some Russian troops lately (to keep them warm, it gets cold there sitting around!) near their borders has Winken, Blinken and Nod saber rattling. (I’ll let you figure out who is whom…)

    Ukrainians are just waiting for their checks to clear. No one knows why we would fight over Ukraine anyway. Most of the good ones, mainly Jews, have long since departed.

    But poor tatted up Kyiv lets us use it as a distraction from Nod’s numerous failures.

    “Look a squirrel near the Kharkiv border! Let’s move some missiles into Estonia!”

    Poor bitch Ukraine is just happy to be noticed. So sad…

  156. @Thea
    Canada used to represent a more laid back version of America. What we would be if we had a little less wealth and less military ambitions. They could have a really nice, quiet country that no one would ever invade.

    Yet such people became neurotic status-strivers. Sad.

    Replies: @Muggles, @James J O'Meara

    Yet such people became neurotic status-strivers. Sad.

    I for one say we need to stop the ongoing flood of Canadian entertainers from monopolizing American TV, film, music, theater, streaming and most of US hockey teams!

    We should be building a wall up north, to stem the tide of mostly European heritage Canuk invaders.

    About 50 miles along the border between NY and Toronto should be enough, eh.

  157. Jordan Peterson has a great piece on why he resigned his tenured Professorship in Toronto because of the Wokels.

    https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jordan-peterson-why-i-am-no-longer-a-tenured-professor-at-the-university-of-toronto

    It smacks of the truth.

  158. @Dieter Kief
    Händel's last impersonation on the Rock 'n' roll stage passed away -

    Meatloaf' soul has flown up - up - up - - -

    ^https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=bat+out+of+hell+meatloaf&view=detail&mid=F9C1F35B96815C1C6E61F9C1F35B96815C1C6E61&FORM=VIRE^

    "...and the last thing I see is my heart - still pounding - - flying out of my body and up in the sky - - - - like a BAT OUT 'A HELL!..."

    (The back-up or co-singer that chimes in at aroud 3:10 in the video is - unhinged & fancy free (vogelwild (=birdwild) in German) - PAAAAH!

    A bat out of hell - now: Who does not think of Covid?!
    So - Meatloaf had been a propeht then? A man of clearvoyance 'n' vision? - - - I: PAAAAH! :I

    Replies: @Etruscan Film Star

    Dieter,

    I have never considered clicking the Ignore Commenter button (not even sure what it does — auto-delete any further remarks from that commenter?). But you are a very special person, with your own form of schizophrenic expression. I am consulting my inner Awards Committee about the possibility of giving you a very special recognition.

  159. @eded
    @Wilkey

    "reality is that for many orchestras and theaters a very large percentage of their budget – perhaps even an absolute majority – comes from government grants"

    This is especially true in Canada where Canadian culture is heavily government subsidized and Canadian content is mandated. The old SCTV skit "Bob and Doug Mackenzie" was a spoof of Canadian mandated "Cancon". The difference today is that there are heavy handed diversity mandates included in Canadian cultural subsidies.

    There are artists that fit certain quotas that receive funding to produce work that is then put on the CBC streaming service, CBC GEM, that nobody watches.

    One problem with Canadian culture is that every English-Canadian artist with real talent heads to the US leaving behind mediocrities who live off government subsidies.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Etruscan Film Star

    One problem with Canadian culture is that every English-Canadian artist with real talent heads to the US leaving behind mediocrities who live off government subsidies.

    And, presumably, white French-Canadian artists. I don’t know if the brilliant pianist Marc-André Hamelin has jacked Canada, but you have to wonder if his talent would have been nurtured if he had grown up in today’s Woke culture in our northern neighboring country.

  160. @PiltdownMan
    Somewhat OT:


    Can an Equation to Help Determine Kidney Health Be Racist?

    https://undark.org/2022/01/19/can-an-equation-to-help-determine-kidney-health-be-racist/
     

    An Amhara Ethiopian immigrant medical student at UC Davis, whose forebears are from an African country that was occupied for a mere few years by Italy in the 1930s and 1940s, and was never colonized, raises issues about equations going back to "slavery days."

    “Racism is very obviously present in a lot of ‘objective’ data in medicine,” she says.

    “It goes back to slavery days where you would buy Black men based on their muscles,” she recalls saying. “I asked, why did we accept that, and why do we still continue to use it? It affects how Black folks get new kidneys, and that is, to me, horrific.”
     

     

    https://youtu.be/zL3rt6RTqps

    Replies: @Tono Bungay, @Buffalo Joe, @Ralph L, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Alden

    I saw Burning Spear perform at the Denver Zoo and you could hear the lions roaring between songs. It was fantastic. Who knew black supremacist dance music could be so much fun?

  161. @Buffalo Joe
    @Altai

    Altai, Canada, where they turn every declarative sentence into a question, eh?

    Replies: @Dube, @JohnnyWalker123

  162. @Canadian Observer
    @James J O'Meara

    Tuktoyaktuk!

    Replies: @J.Ross, @James J O'Meara

    Easy for you to say. Thanks!

    According to Wikipedia, “The settlement lies north of the Arctic Circle on the shores of the Arctic Ocean, and is the only community in Canada on the Arctic Ocean that is connected to the rest of Canada by road. Formerly known as Port Brabant, the community was renamed in 1950 and was the first place in Canada to revert to the traditional Indigenous name.” So it’s not just on topic, but kinda the “trope namer” of the subject.

  163. @David
    @Altai

    almost all wokeness was and continues to be invented by people in America

    I was attending high school in Parry Sound in 1984 when the CBC sent a Jewish producer and director there to film a TV movie, Hockey Night, written by a Jew. The story is: an unfortunate Jewish woman, recently divorced, relocates to the town, with her [then] teenage heartthrob of a daughter, Megan Follows. The local hockey coach, Jewish, naturally, played by Rick Moranis, recognizes her staggering skills as a goalie, and teaches the backward locals about open-mindedness and gender equality -- in the face of dismissive, chauvinist WASP sponsors who only care about money -- by bringing her into the big game, where, naturally, she triumphs.

    Every aspect of the town was derided and denigrated, and the locals, having welcomed the attention, and assisted the production in countless ways, felt seriously hard done-by when the film aired. No one could understand why a government broadcaster would so unfairly present and critique the town, but one thing was sure: everyone felt a little worse about himself, his town, and his people.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Anonymous, @James J O'Meara

    “Every aspect of the town was derided and denigrated, and the locals, having welcomed the attention, and assisted the production in countless ways, felt seriously hard done-by when the film aired. No one could understand why a government broadcaster would so unfairly present and critique the town, but one thing was sure: everyone felt a little worse about himself, his town, and his people.”

    I’ve posted this before and elsewhere: this clip from The Gilmore Girls perfectly encapsulates the whole “Jew(ess) hates the goyim town and imagines the worst” trope. The icing on the cake, of course, is that Stars Hollow is preternaturally wholesome, and today would have BLM signs in every store window and on every lawn, (and masks on everyone) yet being a “small town” of goyim it must be a veritable Pottersville.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @James J O'Meara

    Gilmore Girls. Do you watch Downton Abbey and read Harlequin romances too?

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @ntn

  164. @Thea
    Canada used to represent a more laid back version of America. What we would be if we had a little less wealth and less military ambitions. They could have a really nice, quiet country that no one would ever invade.

    Yet such people became neurotic status-strivers. Sad.

    Replies: @Muggles, @James J O'Meara

    That’s a pretty good description of Canada 1.0

    In the 40s Canada was so boring that McLuhan (back from Oxford) wrote to Wyndham Lewis (in exile at my alma mater in Ontario) that what Canada needed was to “import several million Jews” just to shake the place up.

    I think the key may be that Ontario was a Presbyterian stronghold, back when Toronto was mocked as “Toronto the Good,” meaning the gimlet-eyed Puritanism that Yarvin attributes to the Ivy Leagues.

    For example, they didn’t do Prohibition (and were happy to sell whisky to Al Capone), but even into the 80s had all kinds of restrictions, from special “Liquor Control” stores where alcohol was sold like a drug store or library (pictures of the wares, fill out a slip, wait till it came out on a roller) to separate “Beer Stores” located on the outskirts of town to be inconvenient (people simply bought mass quantities, 24 packs called “suitcases” as you can see stacked up behind Bob & Doug McKensie on the SCTV skits), to curtain on windows of pubs (so women wouldn’t faint if they looked in on the debauchery) and even separate men’s and couples’ sides (one for hard drinkers, the other for families, like a pub).

    Weirdly, the drinking age was 18, while in Michigan it was 21. So when I arrived as a 17 year old freshman, I could drink at the student pub (and elsewhere since no one checked ID). Yet Detroit was the hellhole.

    Anyway I think that’s the key, the sniffy Presbyterianism morphs nicely into PC madness. Different obsessions, but the same oppressiveness. Canada went from Puritanism to PC like the USA went from barbarism to decadence, without passing through civilization.

    • Thanks: Thea
  165. O/T
    Truckers protesting vaccine mandates across Canada today. Many of the grocery stores in Toronto are overdue deliveries and have been stripped clean. Looks like the truckers plan to descend on Ottawa January 29.

  166. I guess Rush have a lot to answer for here. They are arguably Canada’s most successful music act and there musical catalogue includes a lot of politically questionably material. Jordan Peterson probably got most of his ideas off their drummer Neal Peart:

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Alt Right Moderate

    This one is the real hate speech.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj1HacZ4ht4

  167. @PiltdownMan
    Somewhat OT:


    Can an Equation to Help Determine Kidney Health Be Racist?

    https://undark.org/2022/01/19/can-an-equation-to-help-determine-kidney-health-be-racist/
     

    An Amhara Ethiopian immigrant medical student at UC Davis, whose forebears are from an African country that was occupied for a mere few years by Italy in the 1930s and 1940s, and was never colonized, raises issues about equations going back to "slavery days."

    “Racism is very obviously present in a lot of ‘objective’ data in medicine,” she says.

    “It goes back to slavery days where you would buy Black men based on their muscles,” she recalls saying. “I asked, why did we accept that, and why do we still continue to use it? It affects how Black folks get new kidneys, and that is, to me, horrific.”
     

     

    https://youtu.be/zL3rt6RTqps

    Replies: @Tono Bungay, @Buffalo Joe, @Ralph L, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Alden

    Many men are still selected for their muscles. Soldiers sailors police sheriff’s prison guards San Francisco library guards firemen nurses paramedics other medics furniture movers farm and construction workers gardeners deliverymen warehouse workers store shelf stockers roofers iron workers welders. America would be a much better place if there were more muscle jobs. Instead of idiot intelligentsia jobs.

    I tried but just couldn’t read the nonsensical babbling. About how slavery and indigenous people relate to Handel’s music. Or how Handel oppressed POCs. By C I don’t mean color.

  168. @Abolish_public_education
    Handel’s orchestral music as originally written, to be performed by the Toronto Symphony Orchestra

    The (no doubt unionized) TSO is on life support: It receives $5.5M (Cdn) each year in government grants ($30M budget). At the top-10 symphonies, in the US (probably all of them tax funded), the music director makes around $1-2M. That's down from a few years earlier, but of course orchestra patrons were dying off even before Covid.

    The authors do not .. receive funding from any .. organisation that would benefit from this article

    Brock U and U of Toronto are both government colleges. The profsters are tax leeches. The article is yet another, tendentious piece for more government.

    Replies: @Alden

    That kind of Non profits aren’t unionized. Half their workforce are usually college students putzing about for college credits. The rest are low wage.

    Some non profits like the minions of Satan Ford Foundation Woods Tides Carnegie etc pay their employees exceedingly well. But I don’t think any of them are unionized.

  169. @J.Ross
    One of the earliest consensus points of the pickup artist subculture was that Canada was pretty much a waste of time. A video was one of several illustrations of this: a large number of couples walking down the urban street, almost every single one Canadian male and East Asian female.
    ------------
    Hear me now and believe me later, it is altogether fitting and proper that the governator emeritus of California plow his SUV into the little babycar Prius of a young female motorist. She and her ridiculous girlycar should not have been on the road, they should have been in the gym and the custom shop, making better versions of themselves. Then maybe you will not get crashed into.

    Replies: @Alden

    A true MAN OF UNZ. Not only did you dance with joy when Tessa Majors was murdered but now you cheer when Schwarzenegger, a man seriously injured another driver, a woman and smashed two other cars.

    Schwarzenegger tried to make a left turn against a red light in heavy traffic in a very busy intersection. I hope some a\$\$hole in a much bigger car than yours makes a left turn against a red light soon and seriously injures you. You’re homosexual aren’t you? Only a homo would be happy a man seriously injured a woman while arrogantly making an illegal left turn. The woman was driving correctly. Schwarzenegger was violating the traffic laws. Go to hell you woman hating POS.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Alden

    Alden, Alden. You're not yourself tonight. Eat a Snickers.

    , @J.Ross
    @Alden

    You don't understand. Time is a flat circle. I have seen this before, in my news feed. A once-manly Californian celebrity has hit a woman's car with his truck. He has one shot at making people forget what he did. It is starting again.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  170. @James J O'Meara
    @David

    "Every aspect of the town was derided and denigrated, and the locals, having welcomed the attention, and assisted the production in countless ways, felt seriously hard done-by when the film aired. No one could understand why a government broadcaster would so unfairly present and critique the town, but one thing was sure: everyone felt a little worse about himself, his town, and his people."

    I've posted this before and elsewhere: this clip from The Gilmore Girls perfectly encapsulates the whole "Jew(ess) hates the goyim town and imagines the worst" trope. The icing on the cake, of course, is that Stars Hollow is preternaturally wholesome, and today would have BLM signs in every store window and on every lawn, (and masks on everyone) yet being a "small town" of goyim it must be a veritable Pottersville.

    https://youtu.be/AltlTz9p4w4

    Replies: @Alden

    Gilmore Girls. Do you watch Downton Abbey and read Harlequin romances too?

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @Alden

    The Gilmore Girls was a seven season long meditation on the decline of WASP America, worthy of comparison to Welles' The Magnificent Ambersons.

    Paris Geller is the only portrayal of Jewish infiltration and subversion I've ever see in the MSM; years before Curtis Yarvin.

    Above all, Edward Herrmann's definitive portrayal of the WASP patriarch, capping off a career that included such WASP epics as The Lawrenceville Stories, The Paper Chase, and Overboard (elite vs. deplorables). He also recorded the audio versions of The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged (which is probably what killed him).

    I'm sure his contributions to the White race outweigh your own; look upon him and weep, we shall not see his like again.

    Replies: @40 Lashes Less One

    , @ntn
    @Alden

    Stay away from my fucking Downton bitch. I will gladly smack yo face ...

  171. @J.Ross
    @Canadian Observer

    Why does Canadian northern architecture not use wood A-frames or even wood kraals (small outbuildings sharing one outer circular wall, leaving a sprocket-shaped negative space in the middle, and that open space could contain a central fire)? Scandinavians use wood because it insulates. Every Canadian northern residence I've ever seen has been a flat-topped one-storey box made out of materials which look like they don't insulate as well as wood (eg, windows). Is that just poverty and scarcity of materials?

    Replies: @AKAHorace, @AKAHorace

    Every Canadian northern residence I’ve ever seen has been a flat-topped one-storey box made out of materials which look like they don’t insulate as well as wood (eg, windows). Is that just poverty and scarcity of materials?

    Because we follow progressive America in ideology, art and architecture. Our downtown cities are full of enormous glass boxes. In the suburbs pedestrians share slippery ice covered roads with cars. If we build like Californians soon we will get their good looks and climate.

    • Replies: @ntn
    @AKAHorace

    Not so much poverty as 'prefabricated' housing being deployed en masse. Scandinavia presumably has a history of carpentry ... Canada does mass production of 'stick-built' houses with some sort of plastic siding.

    Taking into account something as basic as the Northing and Easting of the house's arrangement wrt solar insolation is of no interest to the builders. And the buyers are too busy getting high on their own farts (as 'homeowners') to care to even get a proper building inspection done, or even ask themselves why their basement is smaller than the rest of the house and what that means about their foundation.

    There's just so many clueless dolts up here ...

  172. The indigenous tribes show a disappointing lack of cultural self confidence and independence.

  173. @Alden
    @J.Ross

    A true MAN OF UNZ. Not only did you dance with joy when Tessa Majors was murdered but now you cheer when Schwarzenegger, a man seriously injured another driver, a woman and smashed two other cars.

    Schwarzenegger tried to make a left turn against a red light in heavy traffic in a very busy intersection. I hope some a$$hole in a much bigger car than yours makes a left turn against a red light soon and seriously injures you. You’re homosexual aren’t you? Only a homo would be happy a man seriously injured a woman while arrogantly making an illegal left turn. The woman was driving correctly. Schwarzenegger was violating the traffic laws. Go to hell you woman hating POS.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @J.Ross

    Alden, Alden. You’re not yourself tonight. Eat a Snickers.

  174. @Alden
    @James J O'Meara

    Gilmore Girls. Do you watch Downton Abbey and read Harlequin romances too?

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @ntn

    The Gilmore Girls was a seven season long meditation on the decline of WASP America, worthy of comparison to Welles’ The Magnificent Ambersons.

    Paris Geller is the only portrayal of Jewish infiltration and subversion I’ve ever see in the MSM; years before Curtis Yarvin.

    Above all, Edward Herrmann’s definitive portrayal of the WASP patriarch, capping off a career that included such WASP epics as The Lawrenceville Stories, The Paper Chase, and Overboard (elite vs. deplorables). He also recorded the audio versions of The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged (which is probably what killed him).

    I’m sure his contributions to the White race outweigh your own; look upon him and weep, we shall not see his like again.

    • Replies: @40 Lashes Less One
    @James J O'Meara

    James J O'Meara is the hippest swingingest cat around.

  175. @Alden
    @J.Ross

    A true MAN OF UNZ. Not only did you dance with joy when Tessa Majors was murdered but now you cheer when Schwarzenegger, a man seriously injured another driver, a woman and smashed two other cars.

    Schwarzenegger tried to make a left turn against a red light in heavy traffic in a very busy intersection. I hope some a$$hole in a much bigger car than yours makes a left turn against a red light soon and seriously injures you. You’re homosexual aren’t you? Only a homo would be happy a man seriously injured a woman while arrogantly making an illegal left turn. The woman was driving correctly. Schwarzenegger was violating the traffic laws. Go to hell you woman hating POS.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @J.Ross

    You don’t understand. Time is a flat circle. I have seen this before, in my news feed. A once-manly Californian celebrity has hit a woman’s car with his truck. He has one shot at making people forget what he did. It is starting again.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @J.Ross

    Zeus & Hera | BMW USA (Official Video)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUC1QA5gRcU
    Premiered Feb 8, 2022


    Retiring from Mount Olympus to Palm Springs, Zeus is underwhelmed by all earthly electric things and becomes a shell of his former self. But right when we think all hope is lost, his wife, Hera, introduces him to the all-electric BMW iX and helps mighty Zeus reclaim his spark.
     

    Zeus & Hera: Director's Cut | BMW USA (Official Video)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IaY1Ef95cI
    Feb 14, 2022

    You loved the original, now take an exclusive look at the even more ultimate Director’s Cut of our “Zeus & Hera” short film, starring the incomparable Arnold Schwarzenegger and Salma Hayek Pinault.

    After retiring from his post on Mt. Olympus and settling into sunny Palm Springs, the great God of Sky and Thunder Zeus (Arnold Schwarzenegger) is having a hard time adapting to life alongside mortals and their underwhelming electric tools and devices. Thankfully, his cunning wife, the great Goddess Hera (Salma Hayek Pinault) has a plan to save Zeus from his rut and helps him rediscover the joy of electricity with the all-electric BMW iX M60.
     
  176. @J.Ross
    @Canadian Observer

    Why does Canadian northern architecture not use wood A-frames or even wood kraals (small outbuildings sharing one outer circular wall, leaving a sprocket-shaped negative space in the middle, and that open space could contain a central fire)? Scandinavians use wood because it insulates. Every Canadian northern residence I've ever seen has been a flat-topped one-storey box made out of materials which look like they don't insulate as well as wood (eg, windows). Is that just poverty and scarcity of materials?

    Replies: @AKAHorace, @AKAHorace

    Also you might find the following article interesting.

    A quote

    While Livesey isn’t so cynical to think that Canadian architecture as a whole is a chore to look at, he sees many newer private-sector buildings suffering from similar ailments: too much glass, cheap building envelopes, subpar insulation, uninspired design. Canada’s downtowns are still stuffed with cranes piecing together gleaming towers with floor-to-ceiling glass—a design choice that sucks up excessive amounts of electricity in both the summer and winter months. Private developers push for this kind of design because it is relatively easy and inexpensive to construct; it almost always get approved by cities; and when combined with cheap materials, it is the quickest way to get returns into the pockets of promoters and investors.

    https://thewalrus.ca/why-is-canadian-architecture-so-bad/#

    • Thanks: J.Ross
  177. @Alden
    @James J O'Meara

    Gilmore Girls. Do you watch Downton Abbey and read Harlequin romances too?

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @ntn

    Stay away from my fucking Downton bitch. I will gladly smack yo face …

  178. @AKAHorace
    @J.Ross


    Every Canadian northern residence I’ve ever seen has been a flat-topped one-storey box made out of materials which look like they don’t insulate as well as wood (eg, windows). Is that just poverty and scarcity of materials?
     
    Because we follow progressive America in ideology, art and architecture. Our downtown cities are full of enormous glass boxes. In the suburbs pedestrians share slippery ice covered roads with cars. If we build like Californians soon we will get their good looks and climate.

    Replies: @ntn

    Not so much poverty as ‘prefabricated’ housing being deployed en masse. Scandinavia presumably has a history of carpentry … Canada does mass production of ‘stick-built’ houses with some sort of plastic siding.

    Taking into account something as basic as the Northing and Easting of the house’s arrangement wrt solar insolation is of no interest to the builders. And the buyers are too busy getting high on their own farts (as ‘homeowners’) to care to even get a proper building inspection done, or even ask themselves why their basement is smaller than the rest of the house and what that means about their foundation.

    There’s just so many clueless dolts up here …

  179. Related if a bit late. Scandal as Junior High School Students asked to discuss pros and CONS of immigration:

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/advocates-education-reform-newfoundland-labrador-1.6326082

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  180. @Alt Right Moderate
    I guess Rush have a lot to answer for here. They are arguably Canada's most successful music act and there musical catalogue includes a lot of politically questionably material. Jordan Peterson probably got most of his ideas off their drummer Neal Peart:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3Dju2i4FZw

    Replies: @Brutusale

    This one is the real hate speech.

  181. @James J O'Meara
    @Alden

    The Gilmore Girls was a seven season long meditation on the decline of WASP America, worthy of comparison to Welles' The Magnificent Ambersons.

    Paris Geller is the only portrayal of Jewish infiltration and subversion I've ever see in the MSM; years before Curtis Yarvin.

    Above all, Edward Herrmann's definitive portrayal of the WASP patriarch, capping off a career that included such WASP epics as The Lawrenceville Stories, The Paper Chase, and Overboard (elite vs. deplorables). He also recorded the audio versions of The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged (which is probably what killed him).

    I'm sure his contributions to the White race outweigh your own; look upon him and weep, we shall not see his like again.

    Replies: @40 Lashes Less One

    James J O’Meara is the hippest swingingest cat around.

  182. @J.Ross
    @Alden

    You don't understand. Time is a flat circle. I have seen this before, in my news feed. A once-manly Californian celebrity has hit a woman's car with his truck. He has one shot at making people forget what he did. It is starting again.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

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