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Just asking …

It’s strangely similar to how most of the shopkeepers in Washington D.C. windows boarded up their windows in the days before last November’s election, and then the boards were taken down beginning the following Saturday when the media declared Joe Biden the winner.

But who can remember back to November?

 
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  1. no riots, just a lot of meetings at the donut stand to talk about what the latest in police procedures should be.

    how much money in back payments was outstanding for child support from the deceased? I guess it is racist to even contemplate the possibility, no?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @huisache


    no riots, just a lot of meetings at the donut stand to talk about what the latest in police procedures should be.

     

    In Minnesota, it's "mini donuts":


    https://img1.wsimg.com/isteam/ip/c0cb5b17-e655-45cc-8d06-ac4b47449c11/347c699c-eb75-48ba-b767-156ebe6e143a.jpg


    Minnesota is the other Timbit Nation. But the doughnut holes have their own holes

  2. The rhetorical question posed by your post explains the verdict. The jury knew that blacks would burn half of urban America to the ground if they acquitted Chauvin. A guilty verdict, on the other hand, wouldn’t result in one broken window.

    • Replies: @ChrisZ
    @Rob McX

    Well said, Rob.

    Once again Steve has voiced a question that NOBODY else has asked publicly--that hasn't even occurred to most observers. Yet having been given expression, the question itself explains so much.

    Replies: @RodW

    , @Pericles
    @Rob McX

    So it was a broken windows policy.

  3. I’ve chatted with liberals in the last year, and many have declared that the BLM riots of last summer literally did not happen. All just Fox News propaganda and the like.

    Wouldn’t shock me if the same folk insist that there were white riots that happened, that they would ironically insist that weren’t given media coverage.

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @joe_mama

    I had friends in the Twin Cities tell me “it wasn’t so bad”. I drove down Lake Street last summer after the riots, and I can attest, it was that bad. It took what, eight months to put what was one of the best big cities in the country (at least it was when I was growing up there) on the road to becoming Detroit. Sad

    , @JohnPlywood
    @joe_mama

    It's not just liberals, the average person has already forgotten about the riots; unless they were one of the rare people who actually lived near and witnessed an actual riot. Vast majority of Americans did not.

    Ask random people on the street if they know what "Ferguson" was. 9 of 10 won't be able to name names.

    Y'all seriously overestimate the endurance of these events in the public memory. You have strapped yourself inside of a bubble and think Joe Schmoe is thinking the way you do. Not so.

    Replies: @Feryl

    , @Polistra
    @joe_mama


    I’ve chatted with liberals in the last year, and many have declared that the BLM riots of last summer literally did not happen. All just Fox News propaganda and the like.

    Wouldn’t shock me if the same folk insist that there were white riots that happened, that they would ironically insist that weren’t given media coverage.

     

    They believe that every jot & tittle of unrest was fomented by white supremacists. I know these people--I have to listen to them every day. They have watched so much television and movies by now that they sincerely believe that the Numinous Ones are constitutionally incapable of violence. Propaganda is far, far more powerful than personal experience--and most of these people have no relevant personal experience to begin with. They're careful to live and work well away from anything like that.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    @joe_mama

    My one progressive friend lives in Minneapolis. He's a doctor, has an Ivy League education, and is an avid consumer of Narrative Media. He is convinced that the riots in his city were started by white supremacists, though he acknowledges that blacks then followed up with the looting.

    I assume he bases this theory on the speculation about the masked "Umbrella Man" who smashed windows at an Auto Zone store. Narrative Media claimed he had been identified by his eyebrows, the only visible part of his face, and that he is 32 years old, a Hells Angel and a member of a white supremacist gang called the Aryan Cowboys. I'm sure he also displays a Nazi flag on a pole outside his house. Anyway, this fellow has never been named or arrested, so I guess we'll just have to take the word of the Minneapolis authorities.

    Replies: @Servant of Gla'aki

  4. In Honolulu,

    well not about George F but about supporting the police.
    https://www.breitbart.com/local/2021/04/25/video-hundreds-rally-police-back-dah-blue-event-hawaii/

    And one of the recent police shootings in Honolulu was a black man, no BLM “peaceful” protests in Honolulu. So if the locals show up to support the Police, even in a dem city there will be no riots and lootings over police shootings of blacks.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-body-camera-footage-shows-fatal-shooting-black/story?

    id=77136202

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
    @haole3

    Is that Shrek?

    , @Known Fact
    @haole3

    There must still be a reservoir of good feelings from the original Hawaii 5-0

    Replies: @haole3

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @haole3


    So if the locals show up to support the Police, even in a dem city there will be no riots and lootings over police shootings of blacks.
     
    A Dem city, but not a white Dem city. Baizuo aren't in control.

    Also, Honolulu isn't a city, technically, but a "Census-designated place", like East L.A. There are no incorporated cities or villages in Hawaii. Oahu is Honolulu County, so the island is essentially like Indianapolis or Jacksonville after their city-county mergers.

    The mayor of the county is one Rick Blangiardi, born to Italian immigrants in Cambridge, Mass.

    In January 2020, Blangiardi announced his retirement from television. The next month, he announced his candidacy in the 2020 Honolulu mayoral election. He was endorsed by former Republican governor Linda Lingle and the State of Hawaii Organization of Police Officers (SHOPO), the Honolulu Police Department's police union.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Blangiardi
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honolulu_County,_Hawaii
  5. btw, if steve weren’t a COWARD and a PUPPET for so long…

    no mystery….

    they’d’ve been.

  6. just asking why steve is…

    1. 100% DISHONEST.

    2. still begs for money despite being a PROFESSIONAL LIAR.

    • Agree: AndrewR
    • Troll: SafeNow
    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
    @YHWH has AIDS

    https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/debatesjungle/images/4/49/2017_Scrooge.png/revision/latest?cb=20190320021735

    , @Polistra
    @YHWH has AIDS

    3. Inclined to post obvious trolls like yours so quickly,
    while our own brilliant missives languish forever in limbo..

    Can you explain that one?

    Replies: @Polemos, @El Dato

  7. Cabela’s was having a sale that day.

  8. Stockpiling Tiki torches, I am sure. Until they have enough, they will just be Biden their time.

  9. In my personal experience, one of the effects of the Floyd verdict is to cause the police, who are naturally frightened now to enforce the law on Blacks, ( who wouldn’t be?) to begin to prey upon the one constituency that has no chance against them, namely whites. Look to see increased police violence against poor and weak whites, because the Law enforcement community needs to keep up appearances and arrest rates somehow, and cops are as affected by media and ruling party opinion as anyone else.

    Read The bonfire of the Vanities. If you like throwing your weight around while being protected by your badge and gun, there aren’t that many other options, and no one wants to quit a good paying job.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Polistra
    @znon

    Speaking as a white guy who's been harassed (and much worse) many times by cops (both black and white) I have to inform you that this has been going on a long, long time. Cops know full well they can do whatever they want to white guys, and it'll never make the evening news. They act accordingly.

    And it's been this way for decades.

  10. IMO I voted for the second degree manslaughter charge AT MOST. IF I remember right the maximum penalty for that one was 10 years which more than likely would not be granted given the drugs in Saint George’s system. Guilty on all 3 counts is borderline insanity, or really just anti-White racism, anti-Blue bias, White cowardice, and nonwhite racism.

    IN A FAIR AND UNBIASED SYSTEM, CHAUVIN IS FOUND GUILTY OF SECOND DEGREE MANSLAUGHTER AND SENTENCED TO 5-6 YEARS. If the guy is a model prisoner, he does 75% of this time. Just my opinion.

  11. There are only 200 or so such people and they are geographically scattered.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Currahee

    And most of them are Feds or their agents. No one seriously wants to go back to a Lester Maddox, Jim Crow, White Supremacist system with separate water fountains, forcing Black people to mimic Whites and all the rest of that crap that frankly demeaned everyone involved.
    There are however many thousands of Nationalists who just want to get the hell away as fast as possible.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Travis, @Anonymous

  12. White Supremacy is not so simple as to involve physical actions in the world or even real people who believe in it. It is Magic, or rather as Magic is called in 2021, “Systemic”. One of the results of the Racial Reckoning, besides the increase in black violence, is the increase in black superstition.

  13. @Rob McX
    The rhetorical question posed by your post explains the verdict. The jury knew that blacks would burn half of urban America to the ground if they acquitted Chauvin. A guilty verdict, on the other hand, wouldn't result in one broken window.

    Replies: @ChrisZ, @Pericles

    Well said, Rob.

    Once again Steve has voiced a question that NOBODY else has asked publicly–that hasn’t even occurred to most observers. Yet having been given expression, the question itself explains so much.

    • Replies: @RodW
    @ChrisZ

    It occurred to me and I posted it on another thread here. It’s not just rioting either. These white supremacists are supposed to be terrorists too, with shootings and bombings, none of which have happened. They’re supposed to have infiltrated the military after all. That’s what the purges have been about.

    Perhaps they’re waiting for the sentencing phase? Yes, that must be it. They’re keeping their powder dry.

  14. A lot of American neo nazis and white supremacists could care less that a cop is going to jail.

    • Agree: Not Raul
    • Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @Paul Rise

    "A lot of American neo nazis and white supremacists could care less that a cop is going to jail."

    And white nationalists as well. I support full defunding of the police because, if we don't defund them, they will target whites for chickenshit offenses whilst letting blacks and browns get away with murdering whites. I don't care if they kill each other. Whites didn't riot over this nonsensical verdict because half of us believe the cop murdered St Floyd, half of us don't like cops generally, and half of us were too busy posting tiktok videos.

    , @Feryl
    @Paul Rise

    I'd say that even ordinary right wingers are basically reaching the stage of strongly preffering to NOT serve this country as a government worker, cop, or military service member. Society hates people like you, might as well disengage. Cops are retiring in droves, the military is fully woke , and government workers are a massive Dem voting bloc.

  15. I guess the Oscars really are nothing.
    ——-
    But it’s all worth it when cops enable rape but murder some old man who collects bolt action rifles and his girl complained about him.
    EQUITY!

  16. There won’t be many riots along the way, just a big war at the end. Slowly, then all at once is how White people chimp out.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Jon

    Gradually and then suddenly, as a Hemingway character puts it when asked how he went bankrupt.

  17. @haole3
    In Honolulu,

    well not about George F but about supporting the police.
    https://www.breitbart.com/local/2021/04/25/video-hundreds-rally-police-back-dah-blue-event-hawaii/

    And one of the recent police shootings in Honolulu was a black man, no BLM "peaceful" protests in Honolulu. So if the locals show up to support the Police, even in a dem city there will be no riots and lootings over police shootings of blacks.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-body-camera-footage-shows-fatal-shooting-black/story?

    id=77136202

    https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/honolulu-hawaii-police-bodycam-fatal-shooting-lindani-myeni-01-ht-llr-210417_1618677558391_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg

    Replies: @GeneralRipper, @Known Fact, @Reg Cæsar

    Is that Shrek?

  18. I consider myself something of a WN, but after watching a fair amount of the trial I don’t really have a problem with the verdict. In fact I might have voted the same way myself.

    Initially I was troubled by calling it “murder”, when clearly Chauvin never intended for anyone to die. But the jury instructions made it clear that the law does not require intent. If you punch someone in the nose for no good reason (Assault in the Third Degree) and they go down, hit their head, and die, that’s Murder in the Second Degree. If the police department would have defended Chauvin’s actions, and put other officers on the stand to say “sure, we kneel on people’s necks like that all the time and it’s never been a problem”, I think that would have been an effective defense. But I have a hard time feeling sympathy for a cop who keeps kneeling on someone’s neck for three minutes after his partner says he can’t find a pulse.

    What I do have a huge problem with of course is the way the incident has been portrayed as as definitive proof of the false narrative of pervasive police violence against Black! people. But cops do screw up at times. I think defending Chauvin is counterproductive and missing the point.

    • Agree: Elli, Keypusher
    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    @jb

    You were taken in by the mainstream narrative.

    The actual bodycam footage showed that Chauvin's knee was NOT on Floyd's neck, but on his shoulder.

    The police training manual proved that Chauvin did what he was trained to do.

    The autopsy showed no trauma to the neck or windpipe. Floyd had a 98% oxygen reading.

    Autopsy also showed Floyd had three times the lethal dose of fentanyl.....when the cops arrived Floyd ate all of the drugs he had in his pocket.....he killed himself.

    Replies: @Elli

    , @beavertales
    @jb

    The average time for an ambulance to arrive in St. Paul is 4.67 minutes. That day they took double the usual.

    Chauvin's an innocent man, going to prison for bad optics during a very ordinary death of an addict.

    , @Ben tillman
    @jb

    The law *does* require intent. Not intent to kill, but intent to commit the bodily harm that gives rise to the assault charge that the felony murder charge was based on. And that intent to commit bodily harm has to be in his mind when he does something that he is not legally warranted to do in restraining a prisoner.

    , @jon
    @jb


    after watching a fair amount of the trial I don’t really have a problem with the verdict. In fact I might have voted the same way myself.
     
    I'm sure that open-minded, fair, rational approach will be reciprocated by the other side. Give them this one, but stand firm in your convictions on the others (where you are certain you are 100% in the right). What could go wrong?

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @ThreeCranes
    @jb

    In the new reality, the daycare reality, Chauvin should have sat cross-legged on the road, cradled Floyd’s head in his lap and, while gently stroking his hair and after planting a reverent kiss on Floyd’s forehead, intoned in his ear, “Don’t worry George. Momma will be here soon. Your life matters. Stay with us, George. Your life matters. Hang in there. Momma’s coming. Your life matters.”

    “Oh, and George? About that phony twenty? Forget that. We have. Don’t let that worry you. We won’t prosecute you for that. Besides, you’re still eight hundred and eighty dollars short of your shoplifting limit! So, no foul. Just get better, my noble friend. We’re all pulling for you.”

    Anything less and the mob finds Chauvin guilty.

    Replies: @S

  19. @YHWH has AIDS
    just asking why steve is...

    1. 100% DISHONEST.

    2. still begs for money despite being a PROFESSIONAL LIAR.

    Replies: @GeneralRipper, @Polistra

  20. @Jon
    There won't be many riots along the way, just a big war at the end. Slowly, then all at once is how White people chimp out.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    Gradually and then suddenly, as a Hemingway character puts it when asked how he went bankrupt.

  21. This is why no one thought anything would happen on January 6th when people protested at the capital. Nothing had happened at any of the Trump events; people who voted for Donald Trump are people who uphold the rule of law.

  22. Still waters run deep.

    • Thanks: donut
  23. @joe_mama
    I've chatted with liberals in the last year, and many have declared that the BLM riots of last summer literally did not happen. All just Fox News propaganda and the like.

    Wouldn't shock me if the same folk insist that there were white riots that happened, that they would ironically insist that weren't given media coverage.

    Replies: @Ganderson, @JohnPlywood, @Polistra, @Harry Baldwin

    I had friends in the Twin Cities tell me “it wasn’t so bad”. I drove down Lake Street last summer after the riots, and I can attest, it was that bad. It took what, eight months to put what was one of the best big cities in the country (at least it was when I was growing up there) on the road to becoming Detroit. Sad

    • Agree: Enemy of Earth
  24. @joe_mama
    I've chatted with liberals in the last year, and many have declared that the BLM riots of last summer literally did not happen. All just Fox News propaganda and the like.

    Wouldn't shock me if the same folk insist that there were white riots that happened, that they would ironically insist that weren't given media coverage.

    Replies: @Ganderson, @JohnPlywood, @Polistra, @Harry Baldwin

    It’s not just liberals, the average person has already forgotten about the riots; unless they were one of the rare people who actually lived near and witnessed an actual riot. Vast majority of Americans did not.

    Ask random people on the street if they know what “Ferguson” was. 9 of 10 won’t be able to name names.

    Y’all seriously overestimate the endurance of these events in the public memory. You have strapped yourself inside of a bubble and think Joe Schmoe is thinking the way you do. Not so.

    • Replies: @Feryl
    @JohnPlywood

    The capitol brouhaha, in which only one person was directly killed via assault (and it was a Trump supporter, no less) and the property ended up with quite minor damage, is still treated as a seismic event by much of the public, with the most assertive agitators deemed "treasonous" and pathetic dupes of The Orange One. But it was a one-off, and most attendees naively thought that they were exercising lawful and constitutional protest while also showing strength in numbers and solidarity. Furthermore, investigations have turned up few remotely "organized" elements within the crowd, almost all attendees were either alone or at best with their spouse or a couple friends.

    The hostility given to the participants has essentially killed off any "direct action" by the Right wing. Meanwhile, Antifa-BLM has overseen numerous seiges, fires, assaults, intimidation, laser blindings, street and intersection take-overs since May 2020, with common street crime soaring as well.

    The reality is that most people, sadly, only understand something if repeated a million times by "respectable" people. So Left wing mob violence and psychosis has mutated into "progress" and the inevitable result of being in a "oppressive" society that must be fought. So says the MSM. But generally laid back and sane people briefly gathering on Jan 6 to show that they actually exist, and are tired of being written off, is exaggerated as a mortal threat to our fair democracy (wait, I thought the system was bad went it's BLM denouncing it?) And we will stop at nothing to strangle it.

  25. @jb
    I consider myself something of a WN, but after watching a fair amount of the trial I don't really have a problem with the verdict. In fact I might have voted the same way myself.

    Initially I was troubled by calling it "murder", when clearly Chauvin never intended for anyone to die. But the jury instructions made it clear that the law does not require intent. If you punch someone in the nose for no good reason (Assault in the Third Degree) and they go down, hit their head, and die, that's Murder in the Second Degree. If the police department would have defended Chauvin's actions, and put other officers on the stand to say "sure, we kneel on people's necks like that all the time and it's never been a problem", I think that would have been an effective defense. But I have a hard time feeling sympathy for a cop who keeps kneeling on someone's neck for three minutes after his partner says he can't find a pulse.

    What I do have a huge problem with of course is the way the incident has been portrayed as as definitive proof of the false narrative of pervasive police violence against Black! people. But cops do screw up at times. I think defending Chauvin is counterproductive and missing the point.

    Replies: @Robert Dolan, @beavertales, @Ben tillman, @jon, @ThreeCranes

    You were taken in by the mainstream narrative.

    The actual bodycam footage showed that Chauvin’s knee was NOT on Floyd’s neck, but on his shoulder.

    The police training manual proved that Chauvin did what he was trained to do.

    The autopsy showed no trauma to the neck or windpipe. Floyd had a 98% oxygen reading.

    Autopsy also showed Floyd had three times the lethal dose of fentanyl…..when the cops arrived Floyd ate all of the drugs he had in his pocket…..he killed himself.

    • Replies: @Elli
    @Robert Dolan

    If you do CPR and give high flow oxygen, you can load up the blood with oxygen. Floyd had CPR. What you won't get on a dead person is carbon dioxide because there is a lack of cellular metabolism producing it.

    A knee on the neck killed Floyd is believed by the ignorant but otherwise a straw argument.

    The informed argument is that Floyd's death arose from a combination of drug use, poor health and gross negligence in the part of the police. Lengthy prone positioning with some weight on Floyd's back made it difficult for him to expand his chest cavity sufficiently, and failure to react to his unconsciousness, change of color, loss of muscle tone, incontinence and loss of respiration and pulse is inexcusable. The police are first responders. They have basic first aid training adequate to recognize the signs of medical emergency, and they failed to act when they had a duty to act.

    You take your victim as you find him, weak or sick or fragile. If it's good enough for the mugger, it's good enough for the cops.

    Replies: @Pericles, @Gordo

  26. The Woke are reacting as expected to this statement:

    CNN’s Rick Santorum: “We birthed a nation from nothing. I mean, there was nothing here. I mean, yes we have Native Americans but candidly there isn’t much Native American culture in American culture”

    But it’s factually correct. The Spanish built New Spain atop a pre-existing Amerind (Aztec, Mayan, etc) foundation, but Anglo-America was de novo.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @syonredux

    https://www.pennlive.com/midstate/2012/01/rick_santorum_says_hes_against.html


    NPR quoted Santorum, talking about government aid such as food stamps and welfare at the rally at a diner: "I don't want to make black people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnlGIbJ2hvA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k--8lkqeas
  27. Steve–

    Could you tap any of your contacts at the NYT or WaPo or other elite media and get them to send out there Brahmin girls to interview assorted blackivists and/or professors of whinology about the M’Stabby M’Knifey shooting?

    While i hate seeing these filthy scum preen and virtue signal while holding their Stalinist show trial of a flyover country gentile, frankly Derek is … not a good look. We white guys have got better–way better.

    But the M’Knifey thing … now that, that is exactly how systemic racism works.

    We really need to have that video played everyday. And the “systemic racism” on display discussed in detail in major media. And all our nation’s politicians and opinion makers to offer comment.

    We need to get that video viewed by people around the world–multiple times. So everyone understands.

    Please see what you can do, to help foster this critical conversation on race.

    Thanks– AnotherDad

  28. “one of the effects of the Floyd verdict is to cause the police, who are naturally frightened now to enforce the law on Blacks, ( who wouldn’t be?) to begin to prey upon the one constituency that has no chance against them, namely whites”

    True. But…Not in Florida, where DeSantis has a new pro-police program and law; we’ve got your back. And anti-black criminal. But wait — Merrick Garland is now trying to assert federal control of police. I feared that would happen. The Dems can’t allow DeSantis to do this. Other governors would emulate it. This is a big deal — the future of policing, and of what’s left of the country, hangs in the balance.

    • Replies: @Dube
    @SafeNow


    Merrick Garland is now trying to assert federal control of police.
     
    Try this: We must do it so [Trump] can't do it.
  29. The Chauvin trial is like a lot of cases where people know that making the wrong decision could provoke trouble. When it’s a matter of race, the default course of action is always to do what upsets whites and placates other races. Whites can always be relied on to roll over. I hope to see the day when they decide they’ve had enough.

  30. @syonredux
    The Woke are reacting as expected to this statement:

    CNN's Rick Santorum: "We birthed a nation from nothing. I mean, there was nothing here. I mean, yes we have Native Americans but candidly there isn't much Native American culture in American culture"
     
    But it's factually correct. The Spanish built New Spain atop a pre-existing Amerind (Aztec, Mayan, etc) foundation, but Anglo-America was de novo.


    https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1386685340522536961

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    https://www.pennlive.com/midstate/2012/01/rick_santorum_says_hes_against.html

    NPR quoted Santorum, talking about government aid such as food stamps and welfare at the rally at a diner: “I don’t want to make black people’s lives better by giving them somebody else’s money.

  31. @huisache
    no riots, just a lot of meetings at the donut stand to talk about what the latest in police procedures should be.

    how much money in back payments was outstanding for child support from the deceased? I guess it is racist to even contemplate the possibility, no?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    no riots, just a lot of meetings at the donut stand to talk about what the latest in police procedures should be.

    In Minnesota, it’s “mini donuts”:

    Minnesota is the other Timbit Nation. But the doughnut holes have their own holes

  32. @jb
    I consider myself something of a WN, but after watching a fair amount of the trial I don't really have a problem with the verdict. In fact I might have voted the same way myself.

    Initially I was troubled by calling it "murder", when clearly Chauvin never intended for anyone to die. But the jury instructions made it clear that the law does not require intent. If you punch someone in the nose for no good reason (Assault in the Third Degree) and they go down, hit their head, and die, that's Murder in the Second Degree. If the police department would have defended Chauvin's actions, and put other officers on the stand to say "sure, we kneel on people's necks like that all the time and it's never been a problem", I think that would have been an effective defense. But I have a hard time feeling sympathy for a cop who keeps kneeling on someone's neck for three minutes after his partner says he can't find a pulse.

    What I do have a huge problem with of course is the way the incident has been portrayed as as definitive proof of the false narrative of pervasive police violence against Black! people. But cops do screw up at times. I think defending Chauvin is counterproductive and missing the point.

    Replies: @Robert Dolan, @beavertales, @Ben tillman, @jon, @ThreeCranes

    The average time for an ambulance to arrive in St. Paul is 4.67 minutes. That day they took double the usual.

    Chauvin’s an innocent man, going to prison for bad optics during a very ordinary death of an addict.

    • Agree: Alden, donut
  33. @jb
    I consider myself something of a WN, but after watching a fair amount of the trial I don't really have a problem with the verdict. In fact I might have voted the same way myself.

    Initially I was troubled by calling it "murder", when clearly Chauvin never intended for anyone to die. But the jury instructions made it clear that the law does not require intent. If you punch someone in the nose for no good reason (Assault in the Third Degree) and they go down, hit their head, and die, that's Murder in the Second Degree. If the police department would have defended Chauvin's actions, and put other officers on the stand to say "sure, we kneel on people's necks like that all the time and it's never been a problem", I think that would have been an effective defense. But I have a hard time feeling sympathy for a cop who keeps kneeling on someone's neck for three minutes after his partner says he can't find a pulse.

    What I do have a huge problem with of course is the way the incident has been portrayed as as definitive proof of the false narrative of pervasive police violence against Black! people. But cops do screw up at times. I think defending Chauvin is counterproductive and missing the point.

    Replies: @Robert Dolan, @beavertales, @Ben tillman, @jon, @ThreeCranes

    The law *does* require intent. Not intent to kill, but intent to commit the bodily harm that gives rise to the assault charge that the felony murder charge was based on. And that intent to commit bodily harm has to be in his mind when he does something that he is not legally warranted to do in restraining a prisoner.

  34. @SafeNow
    “one of the effects of the Floyd verdict is to cause the police, who are naturally frightened now to enforce the law on Blacks, ( who wouldn’t be?) to begin to prey upon the one constituency that has no chance against them, namely whites”

    True. But...Not in Florida, where DeSantis has a new pro-police program and law; we’ve got your back. And anti-black criminal. But wait — Merrick Garland is now trying to assert federal control of police. I feared that would happen. The Dems can’t allow DeSantis to do this. Other governors would emulate it. This is a big deal — the future of policing, and of what’s left of the country, hangs in the balance.

    Replies: @Dube

    Merrick Garland is now trying to assert federal control of police.

    Try this: We must do it so [Trump] can’t do it.

  35. I always had difficulty with the murder charges against Officer Chauvin. In my opinion George Floyd died of natural causes. Natural considering his criminal lifestyle.

  36. @Paul Rise
    A lot of American neo nazis and white supremacists could care less that a cop is going to jail.

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @Feryl

    “A lot of American neo nazis and white supremacists could care less that a cop is going to jail.”

    And white nationalists as well. I support full defunding of the police because, if we don’t defund them, they will target whites for chickenshit offenses whilst letting blacks and browns get away with murdering whites. I don’t care if they kill each other. Whites didn’t riot over this nonsensical verdict because half of us believe the cop murdered St Floyd, half of us don’t like cops generally, and half of us were too busy posting tiktok videos.

  37. @jb
    I consider myself something of a WN, but after watching a fair amount of the trial I don't really have a problem with the verdict. In fact I might have voted the same way myself.

    Initially I was troubled by calling it "murder", when clearly Chauvin never intended for anyone to die. But the jury instructions made it clear that the law does not require intent. If you punch someone in the nose for no good reason (Assault in the Third Degree) and they go down, hit their head, and die, that's Murder in the Second Degree. If the police department would have defended Chauvin's actions, and put other officers on the stand to say "sure, we kneel on people's necks like that all the time and it's never been a problem", I think that would have been an effective defense. But I have a hard time feeling sympathy for a cop who keeps kneeling on someone's neck for three minutes after his partner says he can't find a pulse.

    What I do have a huge problem with of course is the way the incident has been portrayed as as definitive proof of the false narrative of pervasive police violence against Black! people. But cops do screw up at times. I think defending Chauvin is counterproductive and missing the point.

    Replies: @Robert Dolan, @beavertales, @Ben tillman, @jon, @ThreeCranes

    after watching a fair amount of the trial I don’t really have a problem with the verdict. In fact I might have voted the same way myself.

    I’m sure that open-minded, fair, rational approach will be reciprocated by the other side. Give them this one, but stand firm in your convictions on the others (where you are certain you are 100% in the right). What could go wrong?

    • Agree: AndrewR
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @jon

    Exactly. Giving our enemies an inch when they have never reciprocated is what has led us to this point. Chauvin might be a horrible murdering scumbag but he's OUR horrible murdering scumbag. We didn't ask for him to become a symbol of all white men, but he has become one. To wash our hands of him is to wash our hands of ourselves. Then again, we have an 80 year track record of that

  38. @haole3
    In Honolulu,

    well not about George F but about supporting the police.
    https://www.breitbart.com/local/2021/04/25/video-hundreds-rally-police-back-dah-blue-event-hawaii/

    And one of the recent police shootings in Honolulu was a black man, no BLM "peaceful" protests in Honolulu. So if the locals show up to support the Police, even in a dem city there will be no riots and lootings over police shootings of blacks.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-body-camera-footage-shows-fatal-shooting-black/story?

    id=77136202

    https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/honolulu-hawaii-police-bodycam-fatal-shooting-lindani-myeni-01-ht-llr-210417_1618677558391_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg

    Replies: @GeneralRipper, @Known Fact, @Reg Cæsar

    There must still be a reservoir of good feelings from the original Hawaii 5-0

    • Replies: @haole3
    @Known Fact

    Or the police sell the best meth, not sure which,

  39. @joe_mama
    I've chatted with liberals in the last year, and many have declared that the BLM riots of last summer literally did not happen. All just Fox News propaganda and the like.

    Wouldn't shock me if the same folk insist that there were white riots that happened, that they would ironically insist that weren't given media coverage.

    Replies: @Ganderson, @JohnPlywood, @Polistra, @Harry Baldwin

    I’ve chatted with liberals in the last year, and many have declared that the BLM riots of last summer literally did not happen. All just Fox News propaganda and the like.

    Wouldn’t shock me if the same folk insist that there were white riots that happened, that they would ironically insist that weren’t given media coverage.

    They believe that every jot & tittle of unrest was fomented by white supremacists. I know these people–I have to listen to them every day. They have watched so much television and movies by now that they sincerely believe that the Numinous Ones are constitutionally incapable of violence. Propaganda is far, far more powerful than personal experience–and most of these people have no relevant personal experience to begin with. They’re careful to live and work well away from anything like that.

  40. @haole3
    In Honolulu,

    well not about George F but about supporting the police.
    https://www.breitbart.com/local/2021/04/25/video-hundreds-rally-police-back-dah-blue-event-hawaii/

    And one of the recent police shootings in Honolulu was a black man, no BLM "peaceful" protests in Honolulu. So if the locals show up to support the Police, even in a dem city there will be no riots and lootings over police shootings of blacks.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-body-camera-footage-shows-fatal-shooting-black/story?

    id=77136202

    https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/honolulu-hawaii-police-bodycam-fatal-shooting-lindani-myeni-01-ht-llr-210417_1618677558391_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg

    Replies: @GeneralRipper, @Known Fact, @Reg Cæsar

    So if the locals show up to support the Police, even in a dem city there will be no riots and lootings over police shootings of blacks.

    A Dem city, but not a white Dem city. Baizuo aren’t in control.

    Also, Honolulu isn’t a city, technically, but a “Census-designated place”, like East L.A. There are no incorporated cities or villages in Hawaii. Oahu is Honolulu County, so the island is essentially like Indianapolis or Jacksonville after their city-county mergers.

    The mayor of the county is one Rick Blangiardi, born to Italian immigrants in Cambridge, Mass.

    In January 2020, Blangiardi announced his retirement from television. The next month, he announced his candidacy in the 2020 Honolulu mayoral election. He was endorsed by former Republican governor Linda Lingle and the State of Hawaii Organization of Police Officers (SHOPO), the Honolulu Police Department’s police union.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Blangiardi
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honolulu_County,_Hawaii

  41. @Currahee
    There are only 200 or so such people and they are geographically scattered.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    And most of them are Feds or their agents. No one seriously wants to go back to a Lester Maddox, Jim Crow, White Supremacist system with separate water fountains, forcing Black people to mimic Whites and all the rest of that crap that frankly demeaned everyone involved.
    There are however many thousands of Nationalists who just want to get the hell away as fast as possible.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Alfa158

    I don't like the idea of legally enshined racism, and I don't mind being around blacks who can behave themselves, but it would be nice to live in a country where BLM was treated like the terrorist organization it is and eradicated.

    , @Travis
    @Alfa158

    Of the 90 million whites under the age of 45 how many are White Nationalists ? 25,000 ?
    The majority of whites under the age of 45 actually voted for Kamala Harris for President.

    , @Anonymous
    @Alfa158

    This is classic Double Think.

  42. @YHWH has AIDS
    just asking why steve is...

    1. 100% DISHONEST.

    2. still begs for money despite being a PROFESSIONAL LIAR.

    Replies: @GeneralRipper, @Polistra

    3. Inclined to post obvious trolls like yours so quickly,
    while our own brilliant missives languish forever in limbo..

    Can you explain that one?

    • Replies: @Polemos
    @Polistra

    They're his alts. It should be obvious that the delay is there to encourage you/us to try harder.

    , @El Dato
    @Polistra

    pensive_pepe.jpg

  43. The reason whites are not rioting the way blacks have done, and continue to do, is they are more evolved and civilized.

    But I thought most of the individuals on this site knew that?

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
  44. @znon
    In my personal experience, one of the effects of the Floyd verdict is to cause the police, who are naturally frightened now to enforce the law on Blacks, ( who wouldn't be?) to begin to prey upon the one constituency that has no chance against them, namely whites. Look to see increased police violence against poor and weak whites, because the Law enforcement community needs to keep up appearances and arrest rates somehow, and cops are as affected by media and ruling party opinion as anyone else.

    Read The bonfire of the Vanities. If you like throwing your weight around while being protected by your badge and gun, there aren't that many other options, and no one wants to quit a good paying job.

    Replies: @Polistra

    Speaking as a white guy who’s been harassed (and much worse) many times by cops (both black and white) I have to inform you that this has been going on a long, long time. Cops know full well they can do whatever they want to white guys, and it’ll never make the evening news. They act accordingly.

    And it’s been this way for decades.

    • Agree: AndrewR
  45. @Robert Dolan
    @jb

    You were taken in by the mainstream narrative.

    The actual bodycam footage showed that Chauvin's knee was NOT on Floyd's neck, but on his shoulder.

    The police training manual proved that Chauvin did what he was trained to do.

    The autopsy showed no trauma to the neck or windpipe. Floyd had a 98% oxygen reading.

    Autopsy also showed Floyd had three times the lethal dose of fentanyl.....when the cops arrived Floyd ate all of the drugs he had in his pocket.....he killed himself.

    Replies: @Elli

    If you do CPR and give high flow oxygen, you can load up the blood with oxygen. Floyd had CPR. What you won’t get on a dead person is carbon dioxide because there is a lack of cellular metabolism producing it.

    A knee on the neck killed Floyd is believed by the ignorant but otherwise a straw argument.

    The informed argument is that Floyd’s death arose from a combination of drug use, poor health and gross negligence in the part of the police. Lengthy prone positioning with some weight on Floyd’s back made it difficult for him to expand his chest cavity sufficiently, and failure to react to his unconsciousness, change of color, loss of muscle tone, incontinence and loss of respiration and pulse is inexcusable. The police are first responders. They have basic first aid training adequate to recognize the signs of medical emergency, and they failed to act when they had a duty to act.

    You take your victim as you find him, weak or sick or fragile. If it’s good enough for the mugger, it’s good enough for the cops.

    • Thanks: Polemos
    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Elli

    So your point is Chauvin should have done mouth-to-mouth on Floyd?

    From the autopsy report it seems like a case of a scumbag dying of a triple overdose while waiting for the bambalance. Ghetto Lyfe, my n-word.

    , @Gordo
    @Elli


    They have basic first aid training adequate to recognize the signs of medical emergency, and they failed to act when they had a duty to act.

    You take your victim as you find him, weak or sick or fragile. If it’s good enough for the mugger, it’s good enough for the cops.
     
    You don't do CPR, or touch the bare skin, of someone who has taken fentanyl.
  46. @joe_mama
    I've chatted with liberals in the last year, and many have declared that the BLM riots of last summer literally did not happen. All just Fox News propaganda and the like.

    Wouldn't shock me if the same folk insist that there were white riots that happened, that they would ironically insist that weren't given media coverage.

    Replies: @Ganderson, @JohnPlywood, @Polistra, @Harry Baldwin

    My one progressive friend lives in Minneapolis. He’s a doctor, has an Ivy League education, and is an avid consumer of Narrative Media. He is convinced that the riots in his city were started by white supremacists, though he acknowledges that blacks then followed up with the looting.

    I assume he bases this theory on the speculation about the masked “Umbrella Man” who smashed windows at an Auto Zone store. Narrative Media claimed he had been identified by his eyebrows, the only visible part of his face, and that he is 32 years old, a Hells Angel and a member of a white supremacist gang called the Aryan Cowboys. I’m sure he also displays a Nazi flag on a pole outside his house. Anyway, this fellow has never been named or arrested, so I guess we’ll just have to take the word of the Minneapolis authorities.

    • Replies: @Servant of Gla'aki
    @Harry Baldwin


    I assume he bases this theory on the speculation about the masked “Umbrella Man” who smashed windows at an Auto Zone store. Narrative Media claimed he had been identified by his eyebrows, the only visible part of his face, and that he is 32 years old, a Hells Angel and a member of a white supremacist gang called the Aryan Cowboys.
     
    It's amazing how many people are unable to make the jump from the fact there's no name associated with any of these assertions, to it all simply being made-up.

    Which it obviously is.
  47. @JohnPlywood
    @joe_mama

    It's not just liberals, the average person has already forgotten about the riots; unless they were one of the rare people who actually lived near and witnessed an actual riot. Vast majority of Americans did not.

    Ask random people on the street if they know what "Ferguson" was. 9 of 10 won't be able to name names.

    Y'all seriously overestimate the endurance of these events in the public memory. You have strapped yourself inside of a bubble and think Joe Schmoe is thinking the way you do. Not so.

    Replies: @Feryl

    The capitol brouhaha, in which only one person was directly killed via assault (and it was a Trump supporter, no less) and the property ended up with quite minor damage, is still treated as a seismic event by much of the public, with the most assertive agitators deemed “treasonous” and pathetic dupes of The Orange One. But it was a one-off, and most attendees naively thought that they were exercising lawful and constitutional protest while also showing strength in numbers and solidarity. Furthermore, investigations have turned up few remotely “organized” elements within the crowd, almost all attendees were either alone or at best with their spouse or a couple friends.

    The hostility given to the participants has essentially killed off any “direct action” by the Right wing. Meanwhile, Antifa-BLM has overseen numerous seiges, fires, assaults, intimidation, laser blindings, street and intersection take-overs since May 2020, with common street crime soaring as well.

    The reality is that most people, sadly, only understand something if repeated a million times by “respectable” people. So Left wing mob violence and psychosis has mutated into “progress” and the inevitable result of being in a “oppressive” society that must be fought. So says the MSM. But generally laid back and sane people briefly gathering on Jan 6 to show that they actually exist, and are tired of being written off, is exaggerated as a mortal threat to our fair democracy (wait, I thought the system was bad went it’s BLM denouncing it?) And we will stop at nothing to strangle it.

  48. @Polistra
    @YHWH has AIDS

    3. Inclined to post obvious trolls like yours so quickly,
    while our own brilliant missives languish forever in limbo..

    Can you explain that one?

    Replies: @Polemos, @El Dato

    They’re his alts. It should be obvious that the delay is there to encourage you/us to try harder.

  49. @Paul Rise
    A lot of American neo nazis and white supremacists could care less that a cop is going to jail.

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @Feryl

    I’d say that even ordinary right wingers are basically reaching the stage of strongly preffering to NOT serve this country as a government worker, cop, or military service member. Society hates people like you, might as well disengage. Cops are retiring in droves, the military is fully woke , and government workers are a massive Dem voting bloc.

  50. @Known Fact
    @haole3

    There must still be a reservoir of good feelings from the original Hawaii 5-0

    Replies: @haole3

    Or the police sell the best meth, not sure which,

  51. White people “riot” at the tailgate parties. That’s part of the problem.

  52. @Polistra
    @YHWH has AIDS

    3. Inclined to post obvious trolls like yours so quickly,
    while our own brilliant missives languish forever in limbo..

    Can you explain that one?

    Replies: @Polemos, @El Dato

    pensive_pepe.jpg

  53. @Rob McX
    The rhetorical question posed by your post explains the verdict. The jury knew that blacks would burn half of urban America to the ground if they acquitted Chauvin. A guilty verdict, on the other hand, wouldn't result in one broken window.

    Replies: @ChrisZ, @Pericles

    So it was a broken windows policy.

  54. ‘Where Were All the White Supremacist Riots Over the Floyd Verdict?’

    There should have been some. A lot.

  55. @Elli
    @Robert Dolan

    If you do CPR and give high flow oxygen, you can load up the blood with oxygen. Floyd had CPR. What you won't get on a dead person is carbon dioxide because there is a lack of cellular metabolism producing it.

    A knee on the neck killed Floyd is believed by the ignorant but otherwise a straw argument.

    The informed argument is that Floyd's death arose from a combination of drug use, poor health and gross negligence in the part of the police. Lengthy prone positioning with some weight on Floyd's back made it difficult for him to expand his chest cavity sufficiently, and failure to react to his unconsciousness, change of color, loss of muscle tone, incontinence and loss of respiration and pulse is inexcusable. The police are first responders. They have basic first aid training adequate to recognize the signs of medical emergency, and they failed to act when they had a duty to act.

    You take your victim as you find him, weak or sick or fragile. If it's good enough for the mugger, it's good enough for the cops.

    Replies: @Pericles, @Gordo

    So your point is Chauvin should have done mouth-to-mouth on Floyd?

    From the autopsy report it seems like a case of a scumbag dying of a triple overdose while waiting for the bambalance. Ghetto Lyfe, my n-word.

  56. November? Do you mean Brumaire? Oh, wait … that was the French Revolutionary calendar.

    What would it be under the Woke Revolutionary calendar?

    Floydaire starts on what was 25 May

    Walter Wallace was shot on 26 October, so Wallaçaire might be the Woke equivalent for normie November.

  57. @Alfa158
    @Currahee

    And most of them are Feds or their agents. No one seriously wants to go back to a Lester Maddox, Jim Crow, White Supremacist system with separate water fountains, forcing Black people to mimic Whites and all the rest of that crap that frankly demeaned everyone involved.
    There are however many thousands of Nationalists who just want to get the hell away as fast as possible.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Travis, @Anonymous

    I don’t like the idea of legally enshined racism, and I don’t mind being around blacks who can behave themselves, but it would be nice to live in a country where BLM was treated like the terrorist organization it is and eradicated.

  58. @jon
    @jb


    after watching a fair amount of the trial I don’t really have a problem with the verdict. In fact I might have voted the same way myself.
     
    I'm sure that open-minded, fair, rational approach will be reciprocated by the other side. Give them this one, but stand firm in your convictions on the others (where you are certain you are 100% in the right). What could go wrong?

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Exactly. Giving our enemies an inch when they have never reciprocated is what has led us to this point. Chauvin might be a horrible murdering scumbag but he’s OUR horrible murdering scumbag. We didn’t ask for him to become a symbol of all white men, but he has become one. To wash our hands of him is to wash our hands of ourselves. Then again, we have an 80 year track record of that

  59. “Where Were All the White Supremacist Riots Over the Floyd Verdict?”

    Both of them happened to be sick at the time.

  60. @Alfa158
    @Currahee

    And most of them are Feds or their agents. No one seriously wants to go back to a Lester Maddox, Jim Crow, White Supremacist system with separate water fountains, forcing Black people to mimic Whites and all the rest of that crap that frankly demeaned everyone involved.
    There are however many thousands of Nationalists who just want to get the hell away as fast as possible.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Travis, @Anonymous

    Of the 90 million whites under the age of 45 how many are White Nationalists ? 25,000 ?
    The majority of whites under the age of 45 actually voted for Kamala Harris for President.

  61. anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:

    Uh…yeah! Where indeed?

  62. Anonymous[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfa158
    @Currahee

    And most of them are Feds or their agents. No one seriously wants to go back to a Lester Maddox, Jim Crow, White Supremacist system with separate water fountains, forcing Black people to mimic Whites and all the rest of that crap that frankly demeaned everyone involved.
    There are however many thousands of Nationalists who just want to get the hell away as fast as possible.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Travis, @Anonymous

    This is classic Double Think.

  63. @jb
    I consider myself something of a WN, but after watching a fair amount of the trial I don't really have a problem with the verdict. In fact I might have voted the same way myself.

    Initially I was troubled by calling it "murder", when clearly Chauvin never intended for anyone to die. But the jury instructions made it clear that the law does not require intent. If you punch someone in the nose for no good reason (Assault in the Third Degree) and they go down, hit their head, and die, that's Murder in the Second Degree. If the police department would have defended Chauvin's actions, and put other officers on the stand to say "sure, we kneel on people's necks like that all the time and it's never been a problem", I think that would have been an effective defense. But I have a hard time feeling sympathy for a cop who keeps kneeling on someone's neck for three minutes after his partner says he can't find a pulse.

    What I do have a huge problem with of course is the way the incident has been portrayed as as definitive proof of the false narrative of pervasive police violence against Black! people. But cops do screw up at times. I think defending Chauvin is counterproductive and missing the point.

    Replies: @Robert Dolan, @beavertales, @Ben tillman, @jon, @ThreeCranes

    In the new reality, the daycare reality, Chauvin should have sat cross-legged on the road, cradled Floyd’s head in his lap and, while gently stroking his hair and after planting a reverent kiss on Floyd’s forehead, intoned in his ear, “Don’t worry George. Momma will be here soon. Your life matters. Stay with us, George. Your life matters. Hang in there. Momma’s coming. Your life matters.”

    “Oh, and George? About that phony twenty? Forget that. We have. Don’t let that worry you. We won’t prosecute you for that. Besides, you’re still eight hundred and eighty dollars short of your shoplifting limit! So, no foul. Just get better, my noble friend. We’re all pulling for you.”

    Anything less and the mob finds Chauvin guilty.

    • Replies: @S
    @ThreeCranes


    In the new reality, the daycare reality, Chauvin should have sat cross-legged on the road, cradled Floyd’s head in his lap and, while gently stroking his hair and after planting a reverent kiss on Floyd’s forehead, intoned in his ear, “Don’t worry George. Momma will be here soon. Your life matters. Stay with us, George. Your life matters. Hang in there. Momma’s coming. Your life matters.”
     
    As per usual, TC, another great post!

    Sounds positively Orwellian.

    As the nightmare vision of the so called 'progressives' comes more into focus, it's becoming ever more clear exactly what race it is that Big Brother (Big Momma?) is intended to be should they succeed with their mad project.


    https://lasentinel.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2019/02/REV.-AL-SHARPTON.jpg

    https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/RTuODztdzP9zZw2uqZTKeA7akRc=/415x624/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/EE4NVHNE7SPBKKX23Y7W3SEQTE.jpg

    'He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.'
     

    Replies: @ThreeCranes

  64. @Elli
    @Robert Dolan

    If you do CPR and give high flow oxygen, you can load up the blood with oxygen. Floyd had CPR. What you won't get on a dead person is carbon dioxide because there is a lack of cellular metabolism producing it.

    A knee on the neck killed Floyd is believed by the ignorant but otherwise a straw argument.

    The informed argument is that Floyd's death arose from a combination of drug use, poor health and gross negligence in the part of the police. Lengthy prone positioning with some weight on Floyd's back made it difficult for him to expand his chest cavity sufficiently, and failure to react to his unconsciousness, change of color, loss of muscle tone, incontinence and loss of respiration and pulse is inexcusable. The police are first responders. They have basic first aid training adequate to recognize the signs of medical emergency, and they failed to act when they had a duty to act.

    You take your victim as you find him, weak or sick or fragile. If it's good enough for the mugger, it's good enough for the cops.

    Replies: @Pericles, @Gordo

    They have basic first aid training adequate to recognize the signs of medical emergency, and they failed to act when they had a duty to act.

    You take your victim as you find him, weak or sick or fragile. If it’s good enough for the mugger, it’s good enough for the cops.

    You don’t do CPR, or touch the bare skin, of someone who has taken fentanyl.

    • Agree: ThreeCranes
  65. I thought Jews were down with the verdict. Why would they riot?

  66. S says:
    @ThreeCranes
    @jb

    In the new reality, the daycare reality, Chauvin should have sat cross-legged on the road, cradled Floyd’s head in his lap and, while gently stroking his hair and after planting a reverent kiss on Floyd’s forehead, intoned in his ear, “Don’t worry George. Momma will be here soon. Your life matters. Stay with us, George. Your life matters. Hang in there. Momma’s coming. Your life matters.”

    “Oh, and George? About that phony twenty? Forget that. We have. Don’t let that worry you. We won’t prosecute you for that. Besides, you’re still eight hundred and eighty dollars short of your shoplifting limit! So, no foul. Just get better, my noble friend. We’re all pulling for you.”

    Anything less and the mob finds Chauvin guilty.

    Replies: @S

    In the new reality, the daycare reality, Chauvin should have sat cross-legged on the road, cradled Floyd’s head in his lap and, while gently stroking his hair and after planting a reverent kiss on Floyd’s forehead, intoned in his ear, “Don’t worry George. Momma will be here soon. Your life matters. Stay with us, George. Your life matters. Hang in there. Momma’s coming. Your life matters.”

    As per usual, TC, another great post!

    Sounds positively Orwellian.

    As the nightmare vision of the so called ‘progressives’ comes more into focus, it’s becoming ever more clear exactly what race it is that Big Brother (Big Momma?) is intended to be should they succeed with their mad project.

    ‘He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.’

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    @S

    Before Reconstruction, and after.

  67. Hi Steve. In my just previous post, there was only supposed to be one pic of ‘Big Brother’. If you could edit out (ie delete) the top uppermost pic of the two, that would be appreciated. Thanks.

  68. @Harry Baldwin
    @joe_mama

    My one progressive friend lives in Minneapolis. He's a doctor, has an Ivy League education, and is an avid consumer of Narrative Media. He is convinced that the riots in his city were started by white supremacists, though he acknowledges that blacks then followed up with the looting.

    I assume he bases this theory on the speculation about the masked "Umbrella Man" who smashed windows at an Auto Zone store. Narrative Media claimed he had been identified by his eyebrows, the only visible part of his face, and that he is 32 years old, a Hells Angel and a member of a white supremacist gang called the Aryan Cowboys. I'm sure he also displays a Nazi flag on a pole outside his house. Anyway, this fellow has never been named or arrested, so I guess we'll just have to take the word of the Minneapolis authorities.

    Replies: @Servant of Gla'aki

    I assume he bases this theory on the speculation about the masked “Umbrella Man” who smashed windows at an Auto Zone store. Narrative Media claimed he had been identified by his eyebrows, the only visible part of his face, and that he is 32 years old, a Hells Angel and a member of a white supremacist gang called the Aryan Cowboys.

    It’s amazing how many people are unable to make the jump from the fact there’s no name associated with any of these assertions, to it all simply being made-up.

    Which it obviously is.

  69. @S
    @ThreeCranes


    In the new reality, the daycare reality, Chauvin should have sat cross-legged on the road, cradled Floyd’s head in his lap and, while gently stroking his hair and after planting a reverent kiss on Floyd’s forehead, intoned in his ear, “Don’t worry George. Momma will be here soon. Your life matters. Stay with us, George. Your life matters. Hang in there. Momma’s coming. Your life matters.”
     
    As per usual, TC, another great post!

    Sounds positively Orwellian.

    As the nightmare vision of the so called 'progressives' comes more into focus, it's becoming ever more clear exactly what race it is that Big Brother (Big Momma?) is intended to be should they succeed with their mad project.


    https://lasentinel.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2019/02/REV.-AL-SHARPTON.jpg

    https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/RTuODztdzP9zZw2uqZTKeA7akRc=/415x624/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/EE4NVHNE7SPBKKX23Y7W3SEQTE.jpg

    'He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.'
     

    Replies: @ThreeCranes

    Before Reconstruction, and after.

  70. “Where were all of the WS riots?”
    The FBI is busy with other things right now.

  71. “By the Way, Where Were All the White Supremacist Riots Over the Floyd Verdict?”

    They were everywhere Steve, but a complicit media suppressed their goings on.

  72. @ChrisZ
    @Rob McX

    Well said, Rob.

    Once again Steve has voiced a question that NOBODY else has asked publicly--that hasn't even occurred to most observers. Yet having been given expression, the question itself explains so much.

    Replies: @RodW

    It occurred to me and I posted it on another thread here. It’s not just rioting either. These white supremacists are supposed to be terrorists too, with shootings and bombings, none of which have happened. They’re supposed to have infiltrated the military after all. That’s what the purges have been about.

    Perhaps they’re waiting for the sentencing phase? Yes, that must be it. They’re keeping their powder dry.

  73. Derek Chauvin trial juror 52 speaks out about proceedings deliberating a guilty verdict:

    Looks like they took only 40 minutes to come to the first unanimous verdict. Prosecution’s medical expert witness clinched the deal.

    https://www.cbs.com/shows/cbs_this_morning/video/5VROVVg2eEhtuGu1BIjSrnpw5ULA2jTZ/derek-chauvin-trial-juror-52-speaks-out-about-proceedings-deliberating-a-guilty-verdict/

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