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From the Associated Press:

Extremists exploit a loophole in social moderation: Podcasts
By TALI ARBEL
today

Major social platforms have been cracking down on the spread of misinformation and conspiracy theories in the leadup to the presidential election, and expanded their efforts in the wake of the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. But Apple and Google, among others, have left open a major loophole for this material: Podcasts.

Podcasts made available by the two Big Tech companies let you tune into the world of the QAnon conspiracy theory, wallow in President Donald Trump’s false claims of a stolen election and bask in other extremism. Accounts that have been banned on social media for election misinformation, threatening or bullying, and breaking other rules also still live on as podcasts available on the tech giants’ platforms.

 
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  1. Just going by Siri and all the features on the phones now, isn’t voice recognition up for the job, going through podcasts and searching for wrongspeech? Otherwise, we’re gonna need a bigger boat Ministry of Truth.

    (I’ve got an idea too. Let’s all learn to talk like Inspector Clouseau.)

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    YouTube has an automated transcription feature (which BTW I use a lot - reading is much faster than listening) which is pretty good for people who speak clear English but not for speakers who have heavy accents.

    Replies: @I, Libertine, @Achmed E. Newman

  2. You can download any YouTube video into mp3 format to listen to later while driving or exercising. IOW you make your own podcast of say, Jordan Peterson, who is all over youtube. Or tunes you like, place them into an 8gb SanDisk mp3 player

    Use this Windows program on a legit computer, not some Apple crap or Fone>>>
    https://www.4kdownload.com/products/youtubetomp3

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Clyde

    True. 4K Downloader also works for Bitchute videos.

    Replies: @Clyde

  3. How do liberals themselves talk these days? Do they engage in anything like discourse?

    Or it is just a bunch of submissive ditzes getting their cues from Yahoo and Huffpo?

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @RichardTaylor

    They’ve utterly killed comedy. Now it’s really just unfunny women being very unfunny.

    https://youtu.be/dDBIZDeaGfk

    I’m really worried for the safety of the Bernie Bros. Now that Biden has stolen the election the Neoliberal Clintonite faction will be gunning for them (perhaps both literally and figuratively.)

    Replies: @John Milton’s Ghost, @anon

    , @anon
    @RichardTaylor

    How do liberals themselves talk these days?

    Like Rachel Maddow. Or Tiny Duck.

    Do they engage in anything like discourse?

    Yes! Something that looks very much like discourse!

    Lot of furrowed-brow, serious chin-stroking, serious-face discourse. Of course they are just regurgitating MSNBC / NPR / HuffPo talking points to each other for the virtue signals, no real thought is required, but they take themselves very, very, very seriously.

    Imagine for a moment, that the Corvinus-bot were an actual human, sitting at the next table while you sip your coffee...yeah, like that. Some places I take my coffee are full of that, some of them really loud Boomers. When you have a hearing aid, you talk really loud. Never go out for coffee without earbuds!

    But...right now I'm listening to a couple of Zoomers comparing their parents divorces. Sad, but typical. One thing Boomers do better than anyone, even GenX, is divorce. Nobody divorces like the Baby Boomers.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Marty, @RichardTaylor

  4. One-time pads are the way to go for one-to-one conversation, and much better than messages in bottles for that purpose. Instead of smoke signals, how about the “signal” app that a friend told me about? It’s open-source and sends/receives encrypted phone text messages.

    I forgot to ask him if it can encrypt other data, like pictures. I don’t see why not – may take quite a bit longer though. More importantly, and relative to the podcast “problem”, you can make encrypted phone calls too. From reading their web site just now, I see they are pretty woke too, with a black woman as a logo of sorts and then this:

    In the midst of world-wide protests against racism and police brutality, a lot of people are becoming more immediately aware and concerned about the security of their data and online communication.

    Hahahaaa! Are they saying this is a tool for the antifa, to plan mostly peaceful protests with? Sure, black looters are going to download the app first, haha, cause they are becoming more immediately aware and concerned about the security of their data, that’s the ticket. If that makes it easier for you people to stay on-line, you keep that little gem up there on the site.

    I suggest we all get this signal app. If anyone knows anything else about it, I’d like to hear it. The friend that recommended it is a smart retired computer type.

    • Replies: @Sebastian Hawks
    @Achmed E. Newman

    One time pads are a code where each letter uses a different code so there is no way to look as combinations of letters and try to figure out which is the inevitable "e" "the" and other most common aspects of speech. It's what spies used and probably still do with computer encryption not quite as secure as they thought it was. (The Chinese broke the CIA encryption and are suspected of wiping out all our assets over there.) One time pads are on microdots and the person waits for the code specifically addressed to them on one of "The Number Stations" on shortwave. The British have run their broadcast out of Cypress on some station known as "The Linconshire Poacher" that is mostly off air but starts to broadcast strange musing and a series of numbers at various times. There are some really strange shortwave stations doing this and some documentaries on Youtube talk about them.

    Replies: @Macumazahn, @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Macumazahn
    @Achmed E. Newman

    If this signal app uses a one-time pad, I'll eat my hat.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Thomas
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I've been using Signal for a long time even just for casual contacts. It's even better via an Android phone because you can use it as a standard messaging app for SMS or encrypted...

    But this week, it went down for a few days because of server capacity, apparently because everybody fleeing to it. It seems as of today (Sunday, the 17th), they've addressed the issue, for now. Still... I wonder about the ability of providers of a free app and service to handle everybody's traffic. There's both a capability argument (can they do it) and an equity argument (should they be expected to do it). I'm increasingly coming around to the thinking that we should expect to pay something for some of our services (e.g., email, maybe social media, etc.). That's especially true if the alternative is the monetization of our data black magic that Zuckerberg and Co. have been doing for the past 15 years.

    A potential alternative in communications apps is encrypted channels that go "over the top" of other providers' backend servers. PGP, HTTPS, and a lot of other encrypted services work this way.

    There's a whole raft of competing supposedly secure communications apps out there now: Wickr (I think sort of like a secure Slack), Wire (ditto), Session, Briar, Keybase, etc.

    Telegram has become the hot one for dissidents over the past couple of years out of necessity. I use it for the same reason. I've never been sure how trustworthy it is, however.

  5. The “Q anon conspiracy theory” was the laughable notion that law enforcement applies to bureaucrats and Democrats, that there are “good guys” among the federal slime who will hold people like say the late John McCain accountable. It presumably was propagated to deter vigilantism, because a person aware of vigilant “good guys” would then reject taking matters into one’s own hands. Now we have an economy-destroying lockdown, exploding censorship, and the government devoting its attention to a completely baseless and pointless one-week impeachment for a president who has already said he’s leaving. Gosh, good thing we trusted the professionals.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  6. Wow, am I ever so glad I learned Morse code all those years ago.

  7. They really think they can censor anyone with opinions that dissent against the establishment narrative. Wow.

    • Replies: @John Milton’s Ghost
    @AndrewR

    I’m sympathetic that it seems ridiculous but they aren’t trying. They’re doing. Wrongthink is not allowed.

    , @Moral Stone
    @AndrewR

    They think that because they can, and are.

  8. AI-powered text from this program could fool the government

    Volunteers couldn’t tell AI-generated comments from those penned by humans.

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/01/ai-powered-text-from-this-program-could-fool-the-government/

  9. ‘Major social platforms have been cracking down on the spread of misinformation and conspiracy theories in the leadup to the presidential election’

    Publishers crack down on truth and calls for investigation. ‘Cracking down’ means they are NOT platforms.

    Curious term, ‘misinformation.’ If they meant “lies,” they’d say lies. Misinformation doesn’t mean “wrong,” just, “You can’t say that!”

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  10. Guess these guys aren’t violating any rules, although they butcher at will and clothe their women in garbage bags.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Zabehulah_M33

  11. Obviously you can’t get conspiracy theory stuff off the internet, but as long as it is just a minority interest for cranks, then nobody really cares.

    What they do want to do is get this stuff off the most popular platforms, because the mainstream advertisers don’t want it there any more.

    I have said it before but I’ll say it again, Trump was very foolish to use a commercial platform like Twitter as his main means of communicating, because on these platforms you are not the content you are the product that is being sold to advertisers.

    The same would apply to a dating app like Tinder. If you go on Reddit discussion boards you will see that a popular perennial topic of discussion is that people are banned from Tinder for life for no apparent reason.

    There is a reason why the government has its own means of communication, like press conferences, So that it can communicate its message without being dependent on commercial enterprises.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Jonathan Mason

    "like press conferences" and when dbags like Acosta turn those into shitshows or networks do running commentary during the presser...?

    , @Cloudbuster
    @Jonathan Mason

    There is a reason why the government has its own means of communication, like press conferences, So that it can communicate its message without being dependent on commercial enterprises.

    "Press" ... "without being dependent on commercial enterprises."

    That's some good comedy, there.

    , @I, Libertine
    @Jonathan Mason

    As the saying goes: if you think the product is free, you are the product.

    , @Anonymous
    @Jonathan Mason

    Who broadcasts press conferences ? CNN CBS NBC etc

    , @Thomas
    @Jonathan Mason


    I have said it before but I’ll say it again, Trump was very foolish to use a commercial platform like Twitter as his main means of communicating, because on these platforms you are not the content you are the product that is being sold to advertisers.
     
    Trump has a brand consciousness to rival Shaniqua, albeit in things like media outlets and big names, rather than handbags. That's why he was fool enough to give Bob Woodward unlimited access for a book nine months before an election.

    Replies: @Curle

    , @Anon
    @Jonathan Mason

    Nobody cares? Is that why Parler got shut down and DLive kicked off all the conservatives, after they got kicked off of YouTube? Shut your ignorant mouth. They won't even let us have our little ghetto. To a drone like you it doesn't matter, but it does matter to people who actually have a brain and use it.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

  12. @Jonathan Mason
    Obviously you can't get conspiracy theory stuff off the internet, but as long as it is just a minority interest for cranks, then nobody really cares.

    What they do want to do is get this stuff off the most popular platforms, because the mainstream advertisers don't want it there any more.

    I have said it before but I'll say it again, Trump was very foolish to use a commercial platform like Twitter as his main means of communicating, because on these platforms you are not the content you are the product that is being sold to advertisers.

    The same would apply to a dating app like Tinder. If you go on Reddit discussion boards you will see that a popular perennial topic of discussion is that people are banned from Tinder for life for no apparent reason.

    There is a reason why the government has its own means of communication, like press conferences, So that it can communicate its message without being dependent on commercial enterprises.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Cloudbuster, @I, Libertine, @Anonymous, @Thomas, @Anon

    “like press conferences” and when dbags like Acosta turn those into shitshows or networks do running commentary during the presser…?

  13. FBI says deplorables can’t even get a leisurely cosplay & walk-in going by themselves:

    The National-Bolshevik Corporation reports:

    FBI probing if foreign governments, groups funded extremists who helped execute Capitol attack

    As part of the investigation, the FBI is examining payments of $500,000 in bitcoin to key figures and groups in the alt-right before the Jan. 6 riot.

    Antifa, however, rolls for multiple months on its own. BLM receives multibillion dooolars from good-hearted zionational actors, so that’s ok.

    Who are those “key figures of the alt-right” and are they even connected to the ransackering? Who could be behind a transfer of those 15 bitcoins? And were they ever transformed into greenbacks (less taxes)? Was Oswald working alone? What was the role of John Doe #2 in the OKC bombing?

    Separately, a joint threat assessment issued this week by the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and various other federal and D.C.-area police agencies noted that since the Jan. 6 riot, “Russian, Iranian, and Chinese influence actors have seized the opportunity to amplify narratives in furtherance of their policy interest amid the presidential transition.”

    I knew it! It was THEM!

    A shorter version

    https://www.rt.com/usa/512790-bitcoin-donation-capitol-riot/

    The bitcoin payment in question was reported on January 14 by the blog Chinanalysis and first highlighted by Yahoo News. The cryptocurrency amount of 28.15 BTC, which was worth around $522,000 at the time of its transfer on December 8, was sent to 22 separate addresses, with almost half of it going to Nick Fuentes.

    “Before January 6 == December 8”

    OKAY.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @El Dato


    FBI probing if foreign governments, groups funded extremists who helped execute Capitol attack
     
    Or in other words: Government investigates if there was a conspiracy behind all those people who foolishly believe in conspiracies.

    How many convictions does the DoJ secure in any give year for the crime (or rather "crime") of "conspiracy"? And yet these are the people who tell us that "conspiracy theories" are illegitimate - and now even so dangerous that they must be quashed.

    , @Mario Partisan
    @El Dato


    As part of the investigation, the FBI is examining payments of $500,000 in bitcoin to key figures and groups in the alt-right before the Jan. 6 riot.

     

    Would I be thinking too hard or giving NBC too much credit if I thought they chose to place the phrase “alt-right” right before ‘Jan. 6 riot” in order to subliminally bolster the tenuous connection in the minds of careless readers?
  14. a loophole in social moderation

    It is striking, but not surprising, that mendacious journalists now regard—or want their readers to regard—the media’s extra-legal grasp on the Censor power as a legitimate thing under the rubric of “social moderation”, such that the ordinary freedom of discourse that Americans used to enjoy is now a “loophole” in said authority.

    Rightists will likely regard this as yet further folly enabled by notorious Section 230. This is partly true, but the full truth is more subtle. Section 230 itself is, or was, a fairly reasonable statute to incentivize internet service providers to remove pornography by allowing them to cull what is “obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing” from their data streams without exposing themselves to the liabilities of publishers. Once the Supreme Court got hold of it the next year in Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, however, they nullified the anti-pornography provisions of Section 230, which was the entire purpose of the Act. They probably assumed that was the end of Section 230. Unfortunately, in future cases concerning service provider or website liability for content, defendants cited and—judges carelessly accepted—”Section 230″ as a defense against liability when what they were really protected by was the old Common Carrier standard of liability immunity (i.e., the newsstand is not liable for what the newspaper publishes).

    Things bumped along in the somewhat ambiguous state until 2016 when an uncouth businessman managed to get elected to the highest office in the land. Then the hostile social media monopolies noticed that while the anti-pornography provisions of the Section 230 were null, if they moved gingerly they might be able to reanimate the liability-immunity provision, even though it no longer served any legal purpose absent its anti-obscenity provisions. So far, they were right.

    Maybe someone will manage to get a case in front of a higher court with this question, and maybe the court will notice that social media monopolies do not in fact hold liability immunity for deciding such matters as the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine. But, given that jurists are human, and as such are susceptible to the false narratives projected by the media cartels, and that the cartels are now projecting the false image of “social moderation”, weak minds are apt accept it as a real institution and then to enshrine it in real law.

    Sad.

    • Thanks: Cortes
    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Almost Missouri

    Trump was a complete fool to hitch his wagon to the cause of hydroxychloroquine.

    Why the hell would you damage your credibility by mouthing off about something that you know absolutely nothing about when you have highly qualified experts who can advise you?

    Somebody has to step up to the plate to protect the public.

    As I keep on saying if you choose to use a commercial service to put out your point of view, then you have to abide by the conditions of service.

    Steve Sailer is perfectly within his rights to delete any or all of my comments, but he does not because he knows that they improve the quality of the discussion on his board.

    As I mentioned on one of the other posts, one of the most enduring topics of discussion on Reddit is why Tinder imposes seemingly arbitrary life bans on many of its paid up members for supposed misconduct, but does not refund their money.

    If an app that people have paid for can do this, then apps that people have not paid for can certainly do it even more.

    No one seems to be making a political issue out of this, but it is just another side of the same coin. (No, I am not banned from Tinder and I have no desire to be on Tinder.)

    Maybe people should be allowed to discuss how to bring down passenger airlines on Twitter for the sake of freedom of speech, but one can see certain arguments why this should not be allowed.

    One such argument is that once these kind of things are put out in the public arena, they can affect all kinds of stupid impressionable, irresponsible people and lead them to commit stupid Acts.

    I'm perfectly willing to believe that many of the people who invaded the Capitol did not appreciate the seriousness of what they were doing, or the trouble that it could lead to. But that is precisely why they need to be protected from themselves.

    Probably a lot of them just wanted to impress a husband or wife or boyfriend or girlfriend. And will end up in prison.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Almost Missouri, @BenKenobi, @Greta Handel, @Deadite, @anon, @AnotherDad

    , @Macumazahn
    @Almost Missouri

    You make a good point. The common-carrier concept could easily apply to these media giants. IMHO they ought to have lost their protections under Section 230 the moment they took down content that was not unlawful.
    When they took down the Daily Stormer, I said nothing because I wasn't a Nazi. Now, they've taken down President Trump - and there's no one left to speak for me.

  15. Wait til they find out that people can just talk to each other, without any media interaction at all. That’ll throw them for a loop. Is there some way that plain old conversation can be canceled? Because something about it sounds vaguely racist, right on the surface of it.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
    • Replies: @CorkyAgain
    @HammerJack

    Like, for example, the two women who were kicked off the airplane when their pro-Trump conversation was overheard?

  16. @Jonathan Mason
    Obviously you can't get conspiracy theory stuff off the internet, but as long as it is just a minority interest for cranks, then nobody really cares.

    What they do want to do is get this stuff off the most popular platforms, because the mainstream advertisers don't want it there any more.

    I have said it before but I'll say it again, Trump was very foolish to use a commercial platform like Twitter as his main means of communicating, because on these platforms you are not the content you are the product that is being sold to advertisers.

    The same would apply to a dating app like Tinder. If you go on Reddit discussion boards you will see that a popular perennial topic of discussion is that people are banned from Tinder for life for no apparent reason.

    There is a reason why the government has its own means of communication, like press conferences, So that it can communicate its message without being dependent on commercial enterprises.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Cloudbuster, @I, Libertine, @Anonymous, @Thomas, @Anon

    There is a reason why the government has its own means of communication, like press conferences, So that it can communicate its message without being dependent on commercial enterprises.

    “Press” … “without being dependent on commercial enterprises.”

    That’s some good comedy, there.

  17. @Jonathan Mason
    Obviously you can't get conspiracy theory stuff off the internet, but as long as it is just a minority interest for cranks, then nobody really cares.

    What they do want to do is get this stuff off the most popular platforms, because the mainstream advertisers don't want it there any more.

    I have said it before but I'll say it again, Trump was very foolish to use a commercial platform like Twitter as his main means of communicating, because on these platforms you are not the content you are the product that is being sold to advertisers.

    The same would apply to a dating app like Tinder. If you go on Reddit discussion boards you will see that a popular perennial topic of discussion is that people are banned from Tinder for life for no apparent reason.

    There is a reason why the government has its own means of communication, like press conferences, So that it can communicate its message without being dependent on commercial enterprises.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Cloudbuster, @I, Libertine, @Anonymous, @Thomas, @Anon

    As the saying goes: if you think the product is free, you are the product.

  18. We can end the smoke signal threat and the message in a bottle threat by Amazon putting you on their “dangerous insurrectionist” list and refusing to sell you matches or paper. The beauty of this is that it doesn’t violated the First Amendment because it is private action. Grow your own wood pulp, you dangerous insurrectionist.

    I grew up hearing about McCarthyism and how bad it was that there was a private blacklist for people whom their former employers deemed “dangerous insurrectionists” when in reality these folks were just red blooded American patriots (who happened to like Stalin). But whether blacklisting is bad I guess depends on whether the people being blacklisted are good people or bad people. It’s not the blacklist itself that is bad but blacklisting the wrong people.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Jack D


    We can end the smoke signal threat and the message in a bottle threat by Amazon putting you on their “dangerous insurrectionist” list and refusing to sell you matches or paper.
     
    And why not? After all, the City of Chicago prohibits the sale of LEGAL items of household use, namely spray paint cans, because they can be used for (GASP!) GRAFFETI.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-spray-paint-chicago-burke-20180719-story.html

    And ALL the judges bought and paid for approved it up the line.

    That's why I spend the time, and I welcome others to do the same, to vote NO on the retention of judges on the ballot. No reason why we can't have new judges all the time because why would you vote for a class of people that simply despise you?
  19. @Achmed E. Newman
    Just going by Siri and all the features on the phones now, isn't voice recognition up for the job, going through podcasts and searching for wrongspeech? Otherwise, we're gonna need a bigger boat Ministry of Truth.

    (I've got an idea too. Let's all learn to talk like Inspector Clouseau.)

    Replies: @Jack D

    YouTube has an automated transcription feature (which BTW I use a lot – reading is much faster than listening) which is pretty good for people who speak clear English but not for speakers who have heavy accents.

    • Replies: @I, Libertine
    @Jack D

    I find Youtube's phonetically-based subtitles laughably bad. Literally. So bad that they're distracting. When listening to spoken-word videos, I go to settings and set the playback speed at 1.5 - which makes my listening almost as fast as my reading.

    Just a little life hack for ya.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack D

    Thanks Jack. Also, I totally agree that one can read so much faster than listen. With the "Radio Derb" podcasts, since he gives times, I have found it's a factor of 6 to 8 times. (He does have some musical interludes in there that I miss, though.)

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

  20. You forgot pigeons!

    Kill all pigeons!

    They threaten democracy to the core! Plus, the poop…

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Cortes
    @candid_observer

    Even more basic is the pizzino

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzino

    which is passed hand to hand. That method of transmission allows a reasonable degree of control by the sender and weak spots can be identified. I’m unsure how regularly or easily interceptions are made, but I suspect that it’s a fairly robust system in competent hands and in the appropriate milieu. Passing a pizzino in a gladhanding society doesn’t seem like the most difficult task to carry out.

    , @Mike Tre
    @candid_observer

    https://youtu.be/RJYjiNeJvXw

  21. @Almost Missouri

    a loophole in social moderation
     
    It is striking, but not surprising, that mendacious journalists now regard—or want their readers to regard—the media's extra-legal grasp on the Censor power as a legitimate thing under the rubric of "social moderation", such that the ordinary freedom of discourse that Americans used to enjoy is now a "loophole" in said authority.

    Rightists will likely regard this as yet further folly enabled by notorious Section 230. This is partly true, but the full truth is more subtle. Section 230 itself is, or was, a fairly reasonable statute to incentivize internet service providers to remove pornography by allowing them to cull what is "obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing" from their data streams without exposing themselves to the liabilities of publishers. Once the Supreme Court got hold of it the next year in Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, however, they nullified the anti-pornography provisions of Section 230, which was the entire purpose of the Act. They probably assumed that was the end of Section 230. Unfortunately, in future cases concerning service provider or website liability for content, defendants cited and—judges carelessly accepted—"Section 230" as a defense against liability when what they were really protected by was the old Common Carrier standard of liability immunity (i.e., the newsstand is not liable for what the newspaper publishes).

    Things bumped along in the somewhat ambiguous state until 2016 when an uncouth businessman managed to get elected to the highest office in the land. Then the hostile social media monopolies noticed that while the anti-pornography provisions of the Section 230 were null, if they moved gingerly they might be able to reanimate the liability-immunity provision, even though it no longer served any legal purpose absent its anti-obscenity provisions. So far, they were right.

    Maybe someone will manage to get a case in front of a higher court with this question, and maybe the court will notice that social media monopolies do not in fact hold liability immunity for deciding such matters as the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine. But, given that jurists are human, and as such are susceptible to the false narratives projected by the media cartels, and that the cartels are now projecting the false image of "social moderation", weak minds are apt accept it as a real institution and then to enshrine it in real law.

    Sad.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Macumazahn

    Trump was a complete fool to hitch his wagon to the cause of hydroxychloroquine.

    Why the hell would you damage your credibility by mouthing off about something that you know absolutely nothing about when you have highly qualified experts who can advise you?

    Somebody has to step up to the plate to protect the public.

    As I keep on saying if you choose to use a commercial service to put out your point of view, then you have to abide by the conditions of service.

    Steve Sailer is perfectly within his rights to delete any or all of my comments, but he does not because he knows that they improve the quality of the discussion on his board.

    As I mentioned on one of the other posts, one of the most enduring topics of discussion on Reddit is why Tinder imposes seemingly arbitrary life bans on many of its paid up members for supposed misconduct, but does not refund their money.

    If an app that people have paid for can do this, then apps that people have not paid for can certainly do it even more.

    No one seems to be making a political issue out of this, but it is just another side of the same coin. (No, I am not banned from Tinder and I have no desire to be on Tinder.)

    Maybe people should be allowed to discuss how to bring down passenger airlines on Twitter for the sake of freedom of speech, but one can see certain arguments why this should not be allowed.

    One such argument is that once these kind of things are put out in the public arena, they can affect all kinds of stupid impressionable, irresponsible people and lead them to commit stupid Acts.

    I’m perfectly willing to believe that many of the people who invaded the Capitol did not appreciate the seriousness of what they were doing, or the trouble that it could lead to. But that is precisely why they need to be protected from themselves.

    Probably a lot of them just wanted to impress a husband or wife or boyfriend or girlfriend. And will end up in prison.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Jonathan Mason


    As I keep on saying if you choose to use a commercial service to put out your point of view, then you have to abide by the conditions of service.
     
    If the "conditions of service" stipulate that you may not vituperate against indivuals in private or in chatrooms or refrain from sending e-mail to Iran etc. fuck them.

    One such argument is that once these kind of things are put out in the public arena, they can affect all kinds of stupid impressionable, irresponsible people and lead them to commit stupid Acts.
     
    There is always some kind of speech that someone doesn't like.

    That's why there are laws against some things. That's not why there is Twitter Control or Google Mail Inspection.

    Probably a lot of them just wanted to impress a husband or wife or boyfriend or girlfriend. And will end up in prison.
     
    In that case the law is an ass. End of story.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Jonathan Mason

    As I think was clear, my comment wasn't about what I think speech rules should be. It was about what has actually happened with the infamous Section 230.

    The tl;dr is that the media cartels have reanimated the partial corpse of what was largely dead letter law and are furiously gaslighting everyone to believe that their use of zombie provisions to control everyone else's communications are and should be part of the natural and just order.

    You may or may not agree with the media cartel position, but that ain't the law ... yet. Though it might become the law if they can get the right courts to rule their way.

    On the separate subject of your comment:


    Somebody has to step up to the plate to protect the public.

    ... that is precisely why they need to be protected from themselves.
     
    You needn't worry. It turns out there is no shortage of those who self-appoint to protect the public from itself. It also turns out there is no limit to the power they will self-abrogate in the name of said protection. And they like bootlickers, so you should be fine.
    , @BenKenobi
    @Jonathan Mason


    if you choose to use a commercial service to put out your point of view, then you have to abide by the conditions of service
     
    Unless of course that service is a small bakery, then the bakery is under every obligation placed upon them by any person that “chooses to use their services.”

    Of course you’ll probably say you don’t agree with that, but you’re a slimy little weasel.

    Just remember: billion dollar monopolies can’t violate your rights, but Nana’s Bakery can.

    Also Sailer allows TD to post here under 50 socks. So don’t think getting through moderation ipso-facto means you raise the level of discourse.

    , @Greta Handel
    @Jonathan Mason


    One such argument is that once these kind of things are put out in the public arena, they can affect all kinds of stupid impressionable, irresponsible people and lead them to commit stupid Acts.

    I’m perfectly willing to believe that many of the people who invaded the Capitol did not appreciate the seriousness of what they were doing, or the trouble that it could lead to. But that is precisely why they need to be protected from themselves.
     

    A big brother for everyone!

    Aren’t you the one who has advocated mandatory voting?

    Never mind — I guess that would work with the Establishment’s ballot.

    Replies: @Greta Handel

    , @Deadite
    @Jonathan Mason

    “ Trump was a complete fool to hitch his wagon to the cause of hydroxychloroquine.

    Why the hell would you damage your credibility by mouthing off about something that you know absolutely nothing about when you have highly qualified experts who can advise you?”

    Maybe because as an early stage treatment there was initial evidence it worked?

    There was never any evidence that it was a poison. And therefore no harm in using it. The number of doctors who still swear by it are numerous.

    And now there is lots of evidence showing that countries where it has widespead use have lower death incidence rates.

    , @anon
    @Jonathan Mason

    Steve Sailer is perfectly within his rights to delete any or all of my comments, but he does not because he knows that they improve the quality of the discussion on his board.

    iSteve also routinely allows the comments of a whole flock of Tiny Ducks.

    lol.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Jonathan Mason


    Steve Sailer is perfectly within his rights to delete any or all of my comments, but he does not because he knows that they improve the quality of the discussion on his board.
     
    Or maybe Steve's just an easy going guy.
  22. On the other hand, maybe it’s all over except for the part where the boot is stamping on your face forever.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Anon7


    On the other hand, maybe it’s all over except for the part where the boot is stamping on your face forever.
     
    Not a boot heel, a high heel.
  23. @candid_observer
    You forgot pigeons!

    Kill all pigeons!

    They threaten democracy to the core! Plus, the poop...

    Replies: @Cortes, @Mike Tre

    Even more basic is the pizzino

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzino

    which is passed hand to hand. That method of transmission allows a reasonable degree of control by the sender and weak spots can be identified. I’m unsure how regularly or easily interceptions are made, but I suspect that it’s a fairly robust system in competent hands and in the appropriate milieu. Passing a pizzino in a gladhanding society doesn’t seem like the most difficult task to carry out.

  24. @Jonathan Mason
    Obviously you can't get conspiracy theory stuff off the internet, but as long as it is just a minority interest for cranks, then nobody really cares.

    What they do want to do is get this stuff off the most popular platforms, because the mainstream advertisers don't want it there any more.

    I have said it before but I'll say it again, Trump was very foolish to use a commercial platform like Twitter as his main means of communicating, because on these platforms you are not the content you are the product that is being sold to advertisers.

    The same would apply to a dating app like Tinder. If you go on Reddit discussion boards you will see that a popular perennial topic of discussion is that people are banned from Tinder for life for no apparent reason.

    There is a reason why the government has its own means of communication, like press conferences, So that it can communicate its message without being dependent on commercial enterprises.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Cloudbuster, @I, Libertine, @Anonymous, @Thomas, @Anon

    Who broadcasts press conferences ? CNN CBS NBC etc

  25. I wrote something in the last week or so about samizdat, the underground process that distributed works of satire or social commentary in the former Soviet Union.

    Obviously, we can do better, assuming we’re all allowed to purchase thumb drives and own some sort of computer to read them.

    Anyway, I think that you, Steve Sailer, and Ron Unz, and some of the other writers on this site should gather up all of the articles and the many comments, and just bundle them up and make them available on a regularly updated basis for everyone to download.

    Based on what I’m seeing now, you’d better get right on it if you’re interested. This site could be cancelled at any time.

    • Agree: Prof. Woland
    • Replies: @Charlesz Martel
    @Anon7

    I have asked Steve for an archive of his old site- I am willing to pay for it. No response.

    I think that all controversial sites should scrape their sites themselves and then upload them to torrent sites. Tbe scraper programs have options to add on newer content, so this could be done weekly or monthly. Once we can download the entire sites we can rebuild the sites quickly if the left deplatforms them.

    I would be happy to financially help with this project, I suspect others would too.

    I fear time is running very short. The darkness is descending.

  26. @Achmed E. Newman
    One-time pads are the way to go for one-to-one conversation, and much better than messages in bottles for that purpose. Instead of smoke signals, how about the "signal" app that a friend told me about? It's open-source and sends/receives encrypted phone text messages.


    I forgot to ask him if it can encrypt other data, like pictures. I don't see why not - may take quite a bit longer though. More importantly, and relative to the podcast "problem", you can make encrypted phone calls too. From reading their web site just now, I see they are pretty woke too, with a black woman as a logo of sorts and then this:

    In the midst of world-wide protests against racism and police brutality, a lot of people are becoming more immediately aware and concerned about the security of their data and online communication.
     
    Hahahaaa! Are they saying this is a tool for the antifa, to plan mostly peaceful protests with? Sure, black looters are going to download the app first, haha, cause they are becoming more immediately aware and concerned about the security of their data, that's the ticket. If that makes it easier for you people to stay on-line, you keep that little gem up there on the site.

    I suggest we all get this signal app. If anyone knows anything else about it, I'd like to hear it. The friend that recommended it is a smart retired computer type.

    Replies: @Sebastian Hawks, @Macumazahn, @Thomas

    One time pads are a code where each letter uses a different code so there is no way to look as combinations of letters and try to figure out which is the inevitable “e” “the” and other most common aspects of speech. It’s what spies used and probably still do with computer encryption not quite as secure as they thought it was. (The Chinese broke the CIA encryption and are suspected of wiping out all our assets over there.) One time pads are on microdots and the person waits for the code specifically addressed to them on one of “The Number Stations” on shortwave. The British have run their broadcast out of Cypress on some station known as “The Linconshire Poacher” that is mostly off air but starts to broadcast strange musing and a series of numbers at various times. There are some really strange shortwave stations doing this and some documentaries on Youtube talk about them.

    • Replies: @Macumazahn
    @Sebastian Hawks

    AFAIK a one-time pad requires a shared secret of the same size as the transmitted message. Of course the sequences broadcast on number stations are no more "secret" than are the first 30 letters of the first story in the print edition of the New York Times that bear a headline containing the letter 'j'. The key is that that's your pad. Some say that if two friends each have a copy of the same pressing of a factory-made CD, then they have a few hundred megabytes of one-time pad. What CD? That's the key.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Sebastian Hawks

    Thanks, Mr. Hawks, but I knew most of that - not your history details, but what a 1-time pad is about . For anyone who doesn't, I highly recommend The Code Book by Simon Singh. You don't need to be any technical type to read it, and it's about encryption from way back till PGP or so.

  27. @Jack D
    We can end the smoke signal threat and the message in a bottle threat by Amazon putting you on their "dangerous insurrectionist" list and refusing to sell you matches or paper. The beauty of this is that it doesn't violated the First Amendment because it is private action. Grow your own wood pulp, you dangerous insurrectionist.

    I grew up hearing about McCarthyism and how bad it was that there was a private blacklist for people whom their former employers deemed "dangerous insurrectionists" when in reality these folks were just red blooded American patriots (who happened to like Stalin). But whether blacklisting is bad I guess depends on whether the people being blacklisted are good people or bad people. It's not the blacklist itself that is bad but blacklisting the wrong people.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    We can end the smoke signal threat and the message in a bottle threat by Amazon putting you on their “dangerous insurrectionist” list and refusing to sell you matches or paper.

    And why not? After all, the City of Chicago prohibits the sale of LEGAL items of household use, namely spray paint cans, because they can be used for (GASP!) GRAFFETI.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-spray-paint-chicago-burke-20180719-story.html

    And ALL the judges bought and paid for approved it up the line.

    That’s why I spend the time, and I welcome others to do the same, to vote NO on the retention of judges on the ballot. No reason why we can’t have new judges all the time because why would you vote for a class of people that simply despise you?

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  28. @Clyde
    You can download any YouTube video into mp3 format to listen to later while driving or exercising. IOW you make your own podcast of say, Jordan Peterson, who is all over youtube. Or tunes you like, place them into an 8gb SanDisk mp3 player

    Use this Windows program on a legit computer, not some Apple crap or Fone>>>
    https://www.4kdownload.com/products/youtubetomp3

    Replies: @Rob McX

    True. 4K Downloader also works for Bitchute videos.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Rob McX

    Thanks. I will test 4k mp3 downloader with BitChute and the others. Hopefully Parler will return. It was getting huge enough, and really growing fast, to bother the bastards at Twitter. So they got their buddy Bezos to terminate their servers. Parler needs a server micro-farm outside of the US. Maybe Panama?

  29. @Jonathan Mason
    Obviously you can't get conspiracy theory stuff off the internet, but as long as it is just a minority interest for cranks, then nobody really cares.

    What they do want to do is get this stuff off the most popular platforms, because the mainstream advertisers don't want it there any more.

    I have said it before but I'll say it again, Trump was very foolish to use a commercial platform like Twitter as his main means of communicating, because on these platforms you are not the content you are the product that is being sold to advertisers.

    The same would apply to a dating app like Tinder. If you go on Reddit discussion boards you will see that a popular perennial topic of discussion is that people are banned from Tinder for life for no apparent reason.

    There is a reason why the government has its own means of communication, like press conferences, So that it can communicate its message without being dependent on commercial enterprises.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Cloudbuster, @I, Libertine, @Anonymous, @Thomas, @Anon

    I have said it before but I’ll say it again, Trump was very foolish to use a commercial platform like Twitter as his main means of communicating, because on these platforms you are not the content you are the product that is being sold to advertisers.

    Trump has a brand consciousness to rival Shaniqua, albeit in things like media outlets and big names, rather than handbags. That’s why he was fool enough to give Bob Woodward unlimited access for a book nine months before an election.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Thomas

    Is this Shaniqua really an household name sufficient to be used in general conversation without further elaboration?

    Replies: @Thomas

  30. Anon[399] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason
    Obviously you can't get conspiracy theory stuff off the internet, but as long as it is just a minority interest for cranks, then nobody really cares.

    What they do want to do is get this stuff off the most popular platforms, because the mainstream advertisers don't want it there any more.

    I have said it before but I'll say it again, Trump was very foolish to use a commercial platform like Twitter as his main means of communicating, because on these platforms you are not the content you are the product that is being sold to advertisers.

    The same would apply to a dating app like Tinder. If you go on Reddit discussion boards you will see that a popular perennial topic of discussion is that people are banned from Tinder for life for no apparent reason.

    There is a reason why the government has its own means of communication, like press conferences, So that it can communicate its message without being dependent on commercial enterprises.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Cloudbuster, @I, Libertine, @Anonymous, @Thomas, @Anon

    Nobody cares? Is that why Parler got shut down and DLive kicked off all the conservatives, after they got kicked off of YouTube? Shut your ignorant mouth. They won’t even let us have our little ghetto. To a drone like you it doesn’t matter, but it does matter to people who actually have a brain and use it.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @Anon

    Jonathan Mason is starting to make Corvinus look like a D-Rightist.

  31. By the way, Gmail has started spam-filtering emails from Unz without notice (of course). I’m in the process of migrating away to Protonmail. But check your spam folders.

  32. @Jonathan Mason
    @Almost Missouri

    Trump was a complete fool to hitch his wagon to the cause of hydroxychloroquine.

    Why the hell would you damage your credibility by mouthing off about something that you know absolutely nothing about when you have highly qualified experts who can advise you?

    Somebody has to step up to the plate to protect the public.

    As I keep on saying if you choose to use a commercial service to put out your point of view, then you have to abide by the conditions of service.

    Steve Sailer is perfectly within his rights to delete any or all of my comments, but he does not because he knows that they improve the quality of the discussion on his board.

    As I mentioned on one of the other posts, one of the most enduring topics of discussion on Reddit is why Tinder imposes seemingly arbitrary life bans on many of its paid up members for supposed misconduct, but does not refund their money.

    If an app that people have paid for can do this, then apps that people have not paid for can certainly do it even more.

    No one seems to be making a political issue out of this, but it is just another side of the same coin. (No, I am not banned from Tinder and I have no desire to be on Tinder.)

    Maybe people should be allowed to discuss how to bring down passenger airlines on Twitter for the sake of freedom of speech, but one can see certain arguments why this should not be allowed.

    One such argument is that once these kind of things are put out in the public arena, they can affect all kinds of stupid impressionable, irresponsible people and lead them to commit stupid Acts.

    I'm perfectly willing to believe that many of the people who invaded the Capitol did not appreciate the seriousness of what they were doing, or the trouble that it could lead to. But that is precisely why they need to be protected from themselves.

    Probably a lot of them just wanted to impress a husband or wife or boyfriend or girlfriend. And will end up in prison.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Almost Missouri, @BenKenobi, @Greta Handel, @Deadite, @anon, @AnotherDad

    As I keep on saying if you choose to use a commercial service to put out your point of view, then you have to abide by the conditions of service.

    If the “conditions of service” stipulate that you may not vituperate against indivuals in private or in chatrooms or refrain from sending e-mail to Iran etc. fuck them.

    One such argument is that once these kind of things are put out in the public arena, they can affect all kinds of stupid impressionable, irresponsible people and lead them to commit stupid Acts.

    There is always some kind of speech that someone doesn’t like.

    That’s why there are laws against some things. That’s not why there is Twitter Control or Google Mail Inspection.

    Probably a lot of them just wanted to impress a husband or wife or boyfriend or girlfriend. And will end up in prison.

    In that case the law is an ass. End of story.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @El Dato


    There is always some kind of speech that someone doesn’t like.
     
    https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/3840x2160/4366599-Dick-Gephardt-Quote-What-we-have-is-two-important-values-in.jpg


    IS FREE SPEECH OUTDATED?


    An old campaigner knows free speech
  33. No worries, Google will get after it. Schmidt sees it as the purpose of the company.

    https://www.algemeiner.com/2014/09/23/eric-schmidt-tells-jewish-group-internet-is-best-thing-ever-invented-to-combat-prejudice/

    Tip: If after reading the above (or any time in the 6 years since) you still use any Google product, you can be sure that they know who you are.

  34. @Jonathan Mason
    @Almost Missouri

    Trump was a complete fool to hitch his wagon to the cause of hydroxychloroquine.

    Why the hell would you damage your credibility by mouthing off about something that you know absolutely nothing about when you have highly qualified experts who can advise you?

    Somebody has to step up to the plate to protect the public.

    As I keep on saying if you choose to use a commercial service to put out your point of view, then you have to abide by the conditions of service.

    Steve Sailer is perfectly within his rights to delete any or all of my comments, but he does not because he knows that they improve the quality of the discussion on his board.

    As I mentioned on one of the other posts, one of the most enduring topics of discussion on Reddit is why Tinder imposes seemingly arbitrary life bans on many of its paid up members for supposed misconduct, but does not refund their money.

    If an app that people have paid for can do this, then apps that people have not paid for can certainly do it even more.

    No one seems to be making a political issue out of this, but it is just another side of the same coin. (No, I am not banned from Tinder and I have no desire to be on Tinder.)

    Maybe people should be allowed to discuss how to bring down passenger airlines on Twitter for the sake of freedom of speech, but one can see certain arguments why this should not be allowed.

    One such argument is that once these kind of things are put out in the public arena, they can affect all kinds of stupid impressionable, irresponsible people and lead them to commit stupid Acts.

    I'm perfectly willing to believe that many of the people who invaded the Capitol did not appreciate the seriousness of what they were doing, or the trouble that it could lead to. But that is precisely why they need to be protected from themselves.

    Probably a lot of them just wanted to impress a husband or wife or boyfriend or girlfriend. And will end up in prison.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Almost Missouri, @BenKenobi, @Greta Handel, @Deadite, @anon, @AnotherDad

    As I think was clear, my comment wasn’t about what I think speech rules should be. It was about what has actually happened with the infamous Section 230.

    The tl;dr is that the media cartels have reanimated the partial corpse of what was largely dead letter law and are furiously gaslighting everyone to believe that their use of zombie provisions to control everyone else’s communications are and should be part of the natural and just order.

    You may or may not agree with the media cartel position, but that ain’t the law … yet. Though it might become the law if they can get the right courts to rule their way.

    On the separate subject of your comment:

    Somebody has to step up to the plate to protect the public.

    … that is precisely why they need to be protected from themselves.

    You needn’t worry. It turns out there is no shortage of those who self-appoint to protect the public from itself. It also turns out there is no limit to the power they will self-abrogate in the name of said protection. And they like bootlickers, so you should be fine.

    • Agree: vhrm, Achmed E. Newman
  35. @Jonathan Mason
    @Almost Missouri

    Trump was a complete fool to hitch his wagon to the cause of hydroxychloroquine.

    Why the hell would you damage your credibility by mouthing off about something that you know absolutely nothing about when you have highly qualified experts who can advise you?

    Somebody has to step up to the plate to protect the public.

    As I keep on saying if you choose to use a commercial service to put out your point of view, then you have to abide by the conditions of service.

    Steve Sailer is perfectly within his rights to delete any or all of my comments, but he does not because he knows that they improve the quality of the discussion on his board.

    As I mentioned on one of the other posts, one of the most enduring topics of discussion on Reddit is why Tinder imposes seemingly arbitrary life bans on many of its paid up members for supposed misconduct, but does not refund their money.

    If an app that people have paid for can do this, then apps that people have not paid for can certainly do it even more.

    No one seems to be making a political issue out of this, but it is just another side of the same coin. (No, I am not banned from Tinder and I have no desire to be on Tinder.)

    Maybe people should be allowed to discuss how to bring down passenger airlines on Twitter for the sake of freedom of speech, but one can see certain arguments why this should not be allowed.

    One such argument is that once these kind of things are put out in the public arena, they can affect all kinds of stupid impressionable, irresponsible people and lead them to commit stupid Acts.

    I'm perfectly willing to believe that many of the people who invaded the Capitol did not appreciate the seriousness of what they were doing, or the trouble that it could lead to. But that is precisely why they need to be protected from themselves.

    Probably a lot of them just wanted to impress a husband or wife or boyfriend or girlfriend. And will end up in prison.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Almost Missouri, @BenKenobi, @Greta Handel, @Deadite, @anon, @AnotherDad

    if you choose to use a commercial service to put out your point of view, then you have to abide by the conditions of service

    Unless of course that service is a small bakery, then the bakery is under every obligation placed upon them by any person that “chooses to use their services.”

    Of course you’ll probably say you don’t agree with that, but you’re a slimy little weasel.

    Just remember: billion dollar monopolies can’t violate your rights, but Nana’s Bakery can.

    Also Sailer allows TD to post here under 50 socks. So don’t think getting through moderation ipso-facto means you raise the level of discourse.

  36. Someone pointed out that if the Biblical Rapture happened, and 100 million Christian Americans dissapeared, twitter wouldnt let you mention it and youtube wouldnt let you claim it happened.

    We would be told it was a mass alien abduction and all other explanations were hate speech

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @Anon


    Someone pointed out that if the Biblical Rapture happened
     
    The rapture is not biblical. It is a very lately contrived Wesleyan heresy and is unknown in the apostolic faith.
  37. @Jonathan Mason
    @Almost Missouri

    Trump was a complete fool to hitch his wagon to the cause of hydroxychloroquine.

    Why the hell would you damage your credibility by mouthing off about something that you know absolutely nothing about when you have highly qualified experts who can advise you?

    Somebody has to step up to the plate to protect the public.

    As I keep on saying if you choose to use a commercial service to put out your point of view, then you have to abide by the conditions of service.

    Steve Sailer is perfectly within his rights to delete any or all of my comments, but he does not because he knows that they improve the quality of the discussion on his board.

    As I mentioned on one of the other posts, one of the most enduring topics of discussion on Reddit is why Tinder imposes seemingly arbitrary life bans on many of its paid up members for supposed misconduct, but does not refund their money.

    If an app that people have paid for can do this, then apps that people have not paid for can certainly do it even more.

    No one seems to be making a political issue out of this, but it is just another side of the same coin. (No, I am not banned from Tinder and I have no desire to be on Tinder.)

    Maybe people should be allowed to discuss how to bring down passenger airlines on Twitter for the sake of freedom of speech, but one can see certain arguments why this should not be allowed.

    One such argument is that once these kind of things are put out in the public arena, they can affect all kinds of stupid impressionable, irresponsible people and lead them to commit stupid Acts.

    I'm perfectly willing to believe that many of the people who invaded the Capitol did not appreciate the seriousness of what they were doing, or the trouble that it could lead to. But that is precisely why they need to be protected from themselves.

    Probably a lot of them just wanted to impress a husband or wife or boyfriend or girlfriend. And will end up in prison.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Almost Missouri, @BenKenobi, @Greta Handel, @Deadite, @anon, @AnotherDad

    One such argument is that once these kind of things are put out in the public arena, they can affect all kinds of stupid impressionable, irresponsible people and lead them to commit stupid Acts.

    I’m perfectly willing to believe that many of the people who invaded the Capitol did not appreciate the seriousness of what they were doing, or the trouble that it could lead to. But that is precisely why they need to be protected from themselves.

    A big brother for everyone!

    Aren’t you the one who has advocated mandatory voting?

    Never mind — I guess that would work with the Establishment’s ballot.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
    @Greta Handel

    Yes, here’s the same Jonathan Mason:


    All voting could be done online and administered by the IRS with social security numbers necessary to vote, and records kept of ip numbers.

    The majority of voters would probably be able to vote on their own computers, or on cell phones, or at work, but some voting centers would have to be set up for those who didn’t have access otherwise.

    Everything would thus be taken out of the hands of the states and the corrupt local officials.

    Voting should also be made mandatory, with tax refunds penalties for people who failed to vote.
     
  38. @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    YouTube has an automated transcription feature (which BTW I use a lot - reading is much faster than listening) which is pretty good for people who speak clear English but not for speakers who have heavy accents.

    Replies: @I, Libertine, @Achmed E. Newman

    I find Youtube’s phonetically-based subtitles laughably bad. Literally. So bad that they’re distracting. When listening to spoken-word videos, I go to settings and set the playback speed at 1.5 – which makes my listening almost as fast as my reading.

    Just a little life hack for ya.

  39. @RichardTaylor
    How do liberals themselves talk these days? Do they engage in anything like discourse?

    Or it is just a bunch of submissive ditzes getting their cues from Yahoo and Huffpo?

    Replies: @Kronos, @anon

    They’ve utterly killed comedy. Now it’s really just unfunny women being very unfunny.

    I’m really worried for the safety of the Bernie Bros. Now that Biden has stolen the election the Neoliberal Clintonite faction will be gunning for them (perhaps both literally and figuratively.)

    • Replies: @John Milton’s Ghost
    @Kronos

    Why would anyone frequent a comedy house these days? If we wanted abuse from shrill women we could stay at home.

    And if I wanted to be harangued by people of color I can just head to the downtown of any failed city.

    , @anon
    @Kronos

    I’m really worried for the safety of the Bernie Bros.

    My goodness, you should sit right down and have a nice cup of tea immediately!

    Now that Biden has stolen the election the Neoliberal Clintonite faction will be gunning for them (perhaps both literally and figuratively.)

    Biden is not a Clintonite, he's obviously on the Obama side of the DNCe, and in any event the Bernie Bros are easily hired or bought off. Just like their idol - a couple of houses and Bernie himself is all over toeing the DNCe line like a good boy. Good doggie! Roll over! Sit up! Speak! Here's your treat!

    Thanks for the vid, I guess, but it's really kind of boring. Partly that's me, I find podcasts very tedious, and partly it's just the fact that the Chapo Trannies are ... boringly predictable, like frathouse guys on the second sixpack.

  40. @AndrewR
    They really think they can censor anyone with opinions that dissent against the establishment narrative. Wow.

    Replies: @John Milton’s Ghost, @Moral Stone

    I’m sympathetic that it seems ridiculous but they aren’t trying. They’re doing. Wrongthink is not allowed.

  41. @Jonathan Mason
    @Almost Missouri

    Trump was a complete fool to hitch his wagon to the cause of hydroxychloroquine.

    Why the hell would you damage your credibility by mouthing off about something that you know absolutely nothing about when you have highly qualified experts who can advise you?

    Somebody has to step up to the plate to protect the public.

    As I keep on saying if you choose to use a commercial service to put out your point of view, then you have to abide by the conditions of service.

    Steve Sailer is perfectly within his rights to delete any or all of my comments, but he does not because he knows that they improve the quality of the discussion on his board.

    As I mentioned on one of the other posts, one of the most enduring topics of discussion on Reddit is why Tinder imposes seemingly arbitrary life bans on many of its paid up members for supposed misconduct, but does not refund their money.

    If an app that people have paid for can do this, then apps that people have not paid for can certainly do it even more.

    No one seems to be making a political issue out of this, but it is just another side of the same coin. (No, I am not banned from Tinder and I have no desire to be on Tinder.)

    Maybe people should be allowed to discuss how to bring down passenger airlines on Twitter for the sake of freedom of speech, but one can see certain arguments why this should not be allowed.

    One such argument is that once these kind of things are put out in the public arena, they can affect all kinds of stupid impressionable, irresponsible people and lead them to commit stupid Acts.

    I'm perfectly willing to believe that many of the people who invaded the Capitol did not appreciate the seriousness of what they were doing, or the trouble that it could lead to. But that is precisely why they need to be protected from themselves.

    Probably a lot of them just wanted to impress a husband or wife or boyfriend or girlfriend. And will end up in prison.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Almost Missouri, @BenKenobi, @Greta Handel, @Deadite, @anon, @AnotherDad

    “ Trump was a complete fool to hitch his wagon to the cause of hydroxychloroquine.

    Why the hell would you damage your credibility by mouthing off about something that you know absolutely nothing about when you have highly qualified experts who can advise you?”

    Maybe because as an early stage treatment there was initial evidence it worked?

    There was never any evidence that it was a poison. And therefore no harm in using it. The number of doctors who still swear by it are numerous.

    And now there is lots of evidence showing that countries where it has widespead use have lower death incidence rates.

  42. @Kronos
    @RichardTaylor

    They’ve utterly killed comedy. Now it’s really just unfunny women being very unfunny.

    https://youtu.be/dDBIZDeaGfk

    I’m really worried for the safety of the Bernie Bros. Now that Biden has stolen the election the Neoliberal Clintonite faction will be gunning for them (perhaps both literally and figuratively.)

    Replies: @John Milton’s Ghost, @anon

    Why would anyone frequent a comedy house these days? If we wanted abuse from shrill women we could stay at home.

    And if I wanted to be harangued by people of color I can just head to the downtown of any failed city.

  43. @Achmed E. Newman
    One-time pads are the way to go for one-to-one conversation, and much better than messages in bottles for that purpose. Instead of smoke signals, how about the "signal" app that a friend told me about? It's open-source and sends/receives encrypted phone text messages.


    I forgot to ask him if it can encrypt other data, like pictures. I don't see why not - may take quite a bit longer though. More importantly, and relative to the podcast "problem", you can make encrypted phone calls too. From reading their web site just now, I see they are pretty woke too, with a black woman as a logo of sorts and then this:

    In the midst of world-wide protests against racism and police brutality, a lot of people are becoming more immediately aware and concerned about the security of their data and online communication.
     
    Hahahaaa! Are they saying this is a tool for the antifa, to plan mostly peaceful protests with? Sure, black looters are going to download the app first, haha, cause they are becoming more immediately aware and concerned about the security of their data, that's the ticket. If that makes it easier for you people to stay on-line, you keep that little gem up there on the site.

    I suggest we all get this signal app. If anyone knows anything else about it, I'd like to hear it. The friend that recommended it is a smart retired computer type.

    Replies: @Sebastian Hawks, @Macumazahn, @Thomas

    If this signal app uses a one-time pad, I’ll eat my hat.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Macumazahn

    No, I wasn't trying to associate the two. Sorry for the confusion. You can keep your hat.

  44. @Rob McX
    @Clyde

    True. 4K Downloader also works for Bitchute videos.

    Replies: @Clyde

    Thanks. I will test 4k mp3 downloader with BitChute and the others. Hopefully Parler will return. It was getting huge enough, and really growing fast, to bother the bastards at Twitter. So they got their buddy Bezos to terminate their servers. Parler needs a server micro-farm outside of the US. Maybe Panama?

  45. By TALI ARBEL

    Tali Arbel =

    Major social platforms have been cracking down on the spread of misinformation and conspiracy theories in the leadup to the presidential election…

    All a tribe.

    and expanded their efforts in the wake of the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

    Lie, lab rat!

    But Apple and Google…

    Bilateral.

    among others, have left open a major loophole for this material: Podcasts.

    Liable art.

    Podcasts made available by the two Big Tech companies let you tune into the world of the QAnon conspiracy theory…

    Alert a lib! Bare it all!

    wallow in President Donald Trump’s false claims of a stolen election and bask in other extremism.

    Bleat, liar.

    Accounts that have been banned on social media for election misinformation, threatening or bullying, and breaking other rules…

    A libel, rat! “I label, tar…”

    …still live on as podcasts available on the tech giants’ platforms.

    Bear it all.

    • LOL: El Dato
    • Replies: @Gabe Ruth
    @Reg Cæsar

    Rectification of names by anagram. Thank you for your dedication to your craft.

  46. @Sebastian Hawks
    @Achmed E. Newman

    One time pads are a code where each letter uses a different code so there is no way to look as combinations of letters and try to figure out which is the inevitable "e" "the" and other most common aspects of speech. It's what spies used and probably still do with computer encryption not quite as secure as they thought it was. (The Chinese broke the CIA encryption and are suspected of wiping out all our assets over there.) One time pads are on microdots and the person waits for the code specifically addressed to them on one of "The Number Stations" on shortwave. The British have run their broadcast out of Cypress on some station known as "The Linconshire Poacher" that is mostly off air but starts to broadcast strange musing and a series of numbers at various times. There are some really strange shortwave stations doing this and some documentaries on Youtube talk about them.

    Replies: @Macumazahn, @Achmed E. Newman

    AFAIK a one-time pad requires a shared secret of the same size as the transmitted message. Of course the sequences broadcast on number stations are no more “secret” than are the first 30 letters of the first story in the print edition of the New York Times that bear a headline containing the letter ‘j’. The key is that that’s your pad. Some say that if two friends each have a copy of the same pressing of a factory-made CD, then they have a few hundred megabytes of one-time pad. What CD? That’s the key.

  47. @Jonathan Mason
    @Almost Missouri

    Trump was a complete fool to hitch his wagon to the cause of hydroxychloroquine.

    Why the hell would you damage your credibility by mouthing off about something that you know absolutely nothing about when you have highly qualified experts who can advise you?

    Somebody has to step up to the plate to protect the public.

    As I keep on saying if you choose to use a commercial service to put out your point of view, then you have to abide by the conditions of service.

    Steve Sailer is perfectly within his rights to delete any or all of my comments, but he does not because he knows that they improve the quality of the discussion on his board.

    As I mentioned on one of the other posts, one of the most enduring topics of discussion on Reddit is why Tinder imposes seemingly arbitrary life bans on many of its paid up members for supposed misconduct, but does not refund their money.

    If an app that people have paid for can do this, then apps that people have not paid for can certainly do it even more.

    No one seems to be making a political issue out of this, but it is just another side of the same coin. (No, I am not banned from Tinder and I have no desire to be on Tinder.)

    Maybe people should be allowed to discuss how to bring down passenger airlines on Twitter for the sake of freedom of speech, but one can see certain arguments why this should not be allowed.

    One such argument is that once these kind of things are put out in the public arena, they can affect all kinds of stupid impressionable, irresponsible people and lead them to commit stupid Acts.

    I'm perfectly willing to believe that many of the people who invaded the Capitol did not appreciate the seriousness of what they were doing, or the trouble that it could lead to. But that is precisely why they need to be protected from themselves.

    Probably a lot of them just wanted to impress a husband or wife or boyfriend or girlfriend. And will end up in prison.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Almost Missouri, @BenKenobi, @Greta Handel, @Deadite, @anon, @AnotherDad

    Steve Sailer is perfectly within his rights to delete any or all of my comments, but he does not because he knows that they improve the quality of the discussion on his board.

    iSteve also routinely allows the comments of a whole flock of Tiny Ducks.

    lol.

  48. anon[303] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kronos
    @RichardTaylor

    They’ve utterly killed comedy. Now it’s really just unfunny women being very unfunny.

    https://youtu.be/dDBIZDeaGfk

    I’m really worried for the safety of the Bernie Bros. Now that Biden has stolen the election the Neoliberal Clintonite faction will be gunning for them (perhaps both literally and figuratively.)

    Replies: @John Milton’s Ghost, @anon

    I’m really worried for the safety of the Bernie Bros.

    My goodness, you should sit right down and have a nice cup of tea immediately!

    Now that Biden has stolen the election the Neoliberal Clintonite faction will be gunning for them (perhaps both literally and figuratively.)

    Biden is not a Clintonite, he’s obviously on the Obama side of the DNCe, and in any event the Bernie Bros are easily hired or bought off. Just like their idol – a couple of houses and Bernie himself is all over toeing the DNCe line like a good boy. Good doggie! Roll over! Sit up! Speak! Here’s your treat!

    Thanks for the vid, I guess, but it’s really kind of boring. Partly that’s me, I find podcasts very tedious, and partly it’s just the fact that the Chapo Trannies are … boringly predictable, like frathouse guys on the second sixpack.

  49. @Achmed E. Newman
    One-time pads are the way to go for one-to-one conversation, and much better than messages in bottles for that purpose. Instead of smoke signals, how about the "signal" app that a friend told me about? It's open-source and sends/receives encrypted phone text messages.


    I forgot to ask him if it can encrypt other data, like pictures. I don't see why not - may take quite a bit longer though. More importantly, and relative to the podcast "problem", you can make encrypted phone calls too. From reading their web site just now, I see they are pretty woke too, with a black woman as a logo of sorts and then this:

    In the midst of world-wide protests against racism and police brutality, a lot of people are becoming more immediately aware and concerned about the security of their data and online communication.
     
    Hahahaaa! Are they saying this is a tool for the antifa, to plan mostly peaceful protests with? Sure, black looters are going to download the app first, haha, cause they are becoming more immediately aware and concerned about the security of their data, that's the ticket. If that makes it easier for you people to stay on-line, you keep that little gem up there on the site.

    I suggest we all get this signal app. If anyone knows anything else about it, I'd like to hear it. The friend that recommended it is a smart retired computer type.

    Replies: @Sebastian Hawks, @Macumazahn, @Thomas

    I’ve been using Signal for a long time even just for casual contacts. It’s even better via an Android phone because you can use it as a standard messaging app for SMS or encrypted…

    But this week, it went down for a few days because of server capacity, apparently because everybody fleeing to it. It seems as of today (Sunday, the 17th), they’ve addressed the issue, for now. Still… I wonder about the ability of providers of a free app and service to handle everybody’s traffic. There’s both a capability argument (can they do it) and an equity argument (should they be expected to do it). I’m increasingly coming around to the thinking that we should expect to pay something for some of our services (e.g., email, maybe social media, etc.). That’s especially true if the alternative is the monetization of our data black magic that Zuckerberg and Co. have been doing for the past 15 years.

    A potential alternative in communications apps is encrypted channels that go “over the top” of other providers’ backend servers. PGP, HTTPS, and a lot of other encrypted services work this way.

    There’s a whole raft of competing supposedly secure communications apps out there now: Wickr (I think sort of like a secure Slack), Wire (ditto), Session, Briar, Keybase, etc.

    Telegram has become the hot one for dissidents over the past couple of years out of necessity. I use it for the same reason. I’ve never been sure how trustworthy it is, however.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  50. Listen to the Twitter guy Peter Greenberger defending the Trump ban here. His voice cracks and he nearly cries after the BLM hypocrisy is pointed out:

  51. @El Dato
    FBI says deplorables can't even get a leisurely cosplay & walk-in going by themselves:

    The National-Bolshevik Corporation reports:

    FBI probing if foreign governments, groups funded extremists who helped execute Capitol attack

    As part of the investigation, the FBI is examining payments of $500,000 in bitcoin to key figures and groups in the alt-right before the Jan. 6 riot.

    Antifa, however, rolls for multiple months on its own. BLM receives multibillion dooolars from good-hearted zionational actors, so that's ok.

    Who are those "key figures of the alt-right" and are they even connected to the ransackering? Who could be behind a transfer of those 15 bitcoins? And were they ever transformed into greenbacks (less taxes)? Was Oswald working alone? What was the role of John Doe #2 in the OKC bombing?


    Separately, a joint threat assessment issued this week by the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and various other federal and D.C.-area police agencies noted that since the Jan. 6 riot, "Russian, Iranian, and Chinese influence actors have seized the opportunity to amplify narratives in furtherance of their policy interest amid the presidential transition."
     
    I knew it! It was THEM!

    A shorter version

    https://www.rt.com/usa/512790-bitcoin-donation-capitol-riot/


    The bitcoin payment in question was reported on January 14 by the blog Chinanalysis and first highlighted by Yahoo News. The cryptocurrency amount of 28.15 BTC, which was worth around $522,000 at the time of its transfer on December 8, was sent to 22 separate addresses, with almost half of it going to Nick Fuentes.
     
    "Before January 6 == December 8"

    OKAY.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Mario Partisan

    FBI probing if foreign governments, groups funded extremists who helped execute Capitol attack

    Or in other words: Government investigates if there was a conspiracy behind all those people who foolishly believe in conspiracies.

    How many convictions does the DoJ secure in any give year for the crime (or rather “crime”) of “conspiracy”? And yet these are the people who tell us that “conspiracy theories” are illegitimate – and now even so dangerous that they must be quashed.

  52. Major social platforms have been cracking down on free speech and ideas they disagree with the spread of misinformation and conspiracy theories in the leadup to the presidential election

  53. Meanwhile, infantilization continues apace as Biden’s Dog is being sworn in. Confusingly, it is a White Supremacist Dog, namely a German Sheperd:


    Democrats fawn over Biden’s INDOGERATION, as DC locked down ‘like Baghdad’ for the real thing

    Also, Jewish “Guardian” columnist (oh?) fantasizes about Cossacks riding in the UK, lead by .. Corbyn?

    Guardian columnist implies his heart attack was CAUSED by Jeremy Corbyn’s politics, gets mercilessly mocked

    The hyperbole didn’t stop with Brexit. As a Jew, Behr worried that the ascendancy of former Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn – accused by some of stoking anti-Semitism within the party – would spell doom for Britain’s Jews. “At least we are finding out who would have hidden us in their attic,” he quotes a Jewish friend as saying, adding: “we laughed because it wasn’t even a joke.”

    “The combination of Brexit and Corbynism had me in a state of fizzing unease,” he wrote.

  54. @Almost Missouri

    a loophole in social moderation
     
    It is striking, but not surprising, that mendacious journalists now regard—or want their readers to regard—the media's extra-legal grasp on the Censor power as a legitimate thing under the rubric of "social moderation", such that the ordinary freedom of discourse that Americans used to enjoy is now a "loophole" in said authority.

    Rightists will likely regard this as yet further folly enabled by notorious Section 230. This is partly true, but the full truth is more subtle. Section 230 itself is, or was, a fairly reasonable statute to incentivize internet service providers to remove pornography by allowing them to cull what is "obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing" from their data streams without exposing themselves to the liabilities of publishers. Once the Supreme Court got hold of it the next year in Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, however, they nullified the anti-pornography provisions of Section 230, which was the entire purpose of the Act. They probably assumed that was the end of Section 230. Unfortunately, in future cases concerning service provider or website liability for content, defendants cited and—judges carelessly accepted—"Section 230" as a defense against liability when what they were really protected by was the old Common Carrier standard of liability immunity (i.e., the newsstand is not liable for what the newspaper publishes).

    Things bumped along in the somewhat ambiguous state until 2016 when an uncouth businessman managed to get elected to the highest office in the land. Then the hostile social media monopolies noticed that while the anti-pornography provisions of the Section 230 were null, if they moved gingerly they might be able to reanimate the liability-immunity provision, even though it no longer served any legal purpose absent its anti-obscenity provisions. So far, they were right.

    Maybe someone will manage to get a case in front of a higher court with this question, and maybe the court will notice that social media monopolies do not in fact hold liability immunity for deciding such matters as the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine. But, given that jurists are human, and as such are susceptible to the false narratives projected by the media cartels, and that the cartels are now projecting the false image of "social moderation", weak minds are apt accept it as a real institution and then to enshrine it in real law.

    Sad.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Macumazahn

    You make a good point. The common-carrier concept could easily apply to these media giants. IMHO they ought to have lost their protections under Section 230 the moment they took down content that was not unlawful.
    When they took down the Daily Stormer, I said nothing because I wasn’t a Nazi. Now, they’ve taken down President Trump – and there’s no one left to speak for me.

  55. Extremists exploit a loophole in social moderation: Faculty Hiring

    Extremists exploit a loophole in social moderation: Media Ownership

    Extremists exploit a loophole in social moderation: Public Tolerance of Monopolies

    Extremists exploit a loophole in social moderation: Donor Control of Political Parties

    Extremists exploit a loophole in social moderation: Banking Centralization

    Extremists exploit a loophole in social moderation: Public Education

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Curle

    I love the way ‘social moderation’ is used as if it were a normal, accepted and institutional part of the cultural landscape as opposed to a dangerous aberration. So much so that we are warned about those seeking to avoid it.

  56. OT – in a final act of insubordination, the census bureau defies the Trump administration and gives up accounting for how much of the census count was due to illegal aliens:

    Here’s the predictably left-wing slanted story from National Pretentious Radio:

    https://www.npr.org/2021/01/13/956352495/census-bureau-stops-work-on-trumps-request-for-unauthorized-immigrant-count

    So now apportionment of congressional seats can be weighted even more to states with large numbers of illegals, effectively disenfranchising actual US citizens elsewhere. One man one vote! Right. Our “democracy” is a transparently bogus sham.

  57. @AndrewR
    They really think they can censor anyone with opinions that dissent against the establishment narrative. Wow.

    Replies: @John Milton’s Ghost, @Moral Stone

    They think that because they can, and are.

  58. It’s like 1980 and CP/M has been found to be lacking, and PARC’s WYSIWYG and GUI innovations have yet to infiltrate into the mainstream. Time for innovation.

    Facebook is nothing but an easy to use, limited feature DIY webpage program; it can be improved upon. A replacement could be as simple as sets of WordPress themes tailored to the needs of populist leaders. Call it Populist Press. Had Trump had competent advisors/had Trump listened to competent advisors, he would have migrated to Populist Press (PopPress – a catchy name that I had labored for ten seconds to produce) in 2017 as soon as Cackles’ hissy fit had shown it was going to persist for the entire term.

    To make PopPress even more insidious to our morally degenerate BLM/Antifa superiors, the version created for the alt-right community leaders could be made available only to the alt-right community leaders.
    – Broadcasting would require secure email programs running on secure servers.
    – The version for users would be widely available. You need the users’ version to read the producers posts, available on phone app and web app.

    Twitter is for Twits, but still, a feature of PopPress that allows for urgent messags to be sent via text to subscribers would be nice.

    Other needs – payment system and secure servers.

    I suggest getting these things done before toxic wokeness makes them crimes against the good thinking people of the state. Speaking of which …

    It strikes me as curious that the ethnic group that has the lowest group IQ, the associated moral deficiencies, and a tendency to murder at 8.3x the rate for whites is positioned to tell whites that we are wrong – by birth. We are told that black lives matter and that we have to pledge allegiance to BLM even though blacks appear not to value white lives or even other black lives. To say that all lives matter or that white lives matter, too, is treated as a declaration of contempt towards black lives and a perpetuation of everything from slavery and Emmett Till to microaggressions.

    My response to BLM is to say, “First prove that you value lives, any lives, as much as I do.” We need to stop being nice nice and get in their collective face. Nice nice works with other whites; negroes – as a group – are too primitive to appreciate good manners, which they view as a weakness, but they do know how to smile sweetly at you as they reach around a stab you in the back.

    So, how did blacks become so cherished and immune from criticism? I doubt they did it themselves; look to any African nation, including Haiti, and you will find moral decay, no wait, not moral decay because that implies higher moral standards at a prior time. No, you will find a lack of morals and the inability to organize, plan, and implement measures to raise the standard of living.

    There is another group that is immune from criticism, and exactly how did Jews become so exalted? Mainly on the advice of other Jews who berate whites with false guilt, that’s how.

    We are witnessing an application of the communist principle From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. This is exactly the opposite of the principle that garuantees a functioning society, which is Resources first to the most capable.

  59. @Sebastian Hawks
    @Achmed E. Newman

    One time pads are a code where each letter uses a different code so there is no way to look as combinations of letters and try to figure out which is the inevitable "e" "the" and other most common aspects of speech. It's what spies used and probably still do with computer encryption not quite as secure as they thought it was. (The Chinese broke the CIA encryption and are suspected of wiping out all our assets over there.) One time pads are on microdots and the person waits for the code specifically addressed to them on one of "The Number Stations" on shortwave. The British have run their broadcast out of Cypress on some station known as "The Linconshire Poacher" that is mostly off air but starts to broadcast strange musing and a series of numbers at various times. There are some really strange shortwave stations doing this and some documentaries on Youtube talk about them.

    Replies: @Macumazahn, @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks, Mr. Hawks, but I knew most of that – not your history details, but what a 1-time pad is about . For anyone who doesn’t, I highly recommend The Code Book by Simon Singh. You don’t need to be any technical type to read it, and it’s about encryption from way back till PGP or so.

  60. @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    YouTube has an automated transcription feature (which BTW I use a lot - reading is much faster than listening) which is pretty good for people who speak clear English but not for speakers who have heavy accents.

    Replies: @I, Libertine, @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks Jack. Also, I totally agree that one can read so much faster than listen. With the “Radio Derb” podcasts, since he gives times, I have found it’s a factor of 6 to 8 times. (He does have some musical interludes in there that I miss, though.)

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Achmed E. Newman

    But podcasts are great for falling asleep to. They have disrupted the sleeping pill industry.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  61. @Anon7
    On the other hand, maybe it's all over except for the part where the boot is stamping on your face forever.

    Replies: @Muggles

    On the other hand, maybe it’s all over except for the part where the boot is stamping on your face forever.

    Not a boot heel, a high heel.

  62. @Thomas
    @Jonathan Mason


    I have said it before but I’ll say it again, Trump was very foolish to use a commercial platform like Twitter as his main means of communicating, because on these platforms you are not the content you are the product that is being sold to advertisers.
     
    Trump has a brand consciousness to rival Shaniqua, albeit in things like media outlets and big names, rather than handbags. That's why he was fool enough to give Bob Woodward unlimited access for a book nine months before an election.

    Replies: @Curle

    Is this Shaniqua really an household name sufficient to be used in general conversation without further elaboration?

    • Replies: @Thomas
    @Curle

    Yes.

  63. @Curle
    Extremists exploit a loophole in social moderation: Faculty Hiring

    Extremists exploit a loophole in social moderation: Media Ownership

    Extremists exploit a loophole in social moderation: Public Tolerance of Monopolies

    Extremists exploit a loophole in social moderation: Donor Control of Political Parties

    Extremists exploit a loophole in social moderation: Banking Centralization

    Extremists exploit a loophole in social moderation: Public Education

    Replies: @Curle

    I love the way ‘social moderation’ is used as if it were a normal, accepted and institutional part of the cultural landscape as opposed to a dangerous aberration. So much so that we are warned about those seeking to avoid it.

  64. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack D

    Thanks Jack. Also, I totally agree that one can read so much faster than listen. With the "Radio Derb" podcasts, since he gives times, I have found it's a factor of 6 to 8 times. (He does have some musical interludes in there that I miss, though.)

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    But podcasts are great for falling asleep to. They have disrupted the sleeping pill industry.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason

    Hopefully not John Derbyshire's. ;-}

  65. anon[988] • Disclaimer says:
    @RichardTaylor
    How do liberals themselves talk these days? Do they engage in anything like discourse?

    Or it is just a bunch of submissive ditzes getting their cues from Yahoo and Huffpo?

    Replies: @Kronos, @anon

    How do liberals themselves talk these days?

    Like Rachel Maddow. Or Tiny Duck.

    Do they engage in anything like discourse?

    Yes! Something that looks very much like discourse!

    Lot of furrowed-brow, serious chin-stroking, serious-face discourse. Of course they are just regurgitating MSNBC / NPR / HuffPo talking points to each other for the virtue signals, no real thought is required, but they take themselves very, very, very seriously.

    Imagine for a moment, that the Corvinus-bot were an actual human, sitting at the next table while you sip your coffee…yeah, like that. Some places I take my coffee are full of that, some of them really loud Boomers. When you have a hearing aid, you talk really loud. Never go out for coffee without earbuds!

    But…right now I’m listening to a couple of Zoomers comparing their parents divorces. Sad, but typical. One thing Boomers do better than anyone, even GenX, is divorce. Nobody divorces like the Baby Boomers.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @anon

    Except Rachel is sincere and Duck is making fun of the Rachel Maddows.
    My experience of the discourse is the same as yours, furrowing their brows, competing to see who can agree more fervently than the other, and an occasional regretful head shake over the evil and stupidity of people who disagree with them.

    , @Marty
    @anon

    ”I know, right?”

    Replies: @anon

    , @RichardTaylor
    @anon


    Lot of furrowed-brow, serious chin-stroking, serious-face discourse. Of course they are just regurgitating MSNBC / NPR / HuffPo talking points to each other for the virtue signals, no real thought is required, but they take themselves very, very, very seriously.
     
    Yeah, there is a strong element of playacting to it. Actually that may be all there is to it.

    It's like the silly play government things we had to do in middle school. Or when an affirmative action woman or POC has a job and pretends to do something valuable for years on end. Many of them never realize what they do isn't actually work.
  66. @El Dato
    FBI says deplorables can't even get a leisurely cosplay & walk-in going by themselves:

    The National-Bolshevik Corporation reports:

    FBI probing if foreign governments, groups funded extremists who helped execute Capitol attack

    As part of the investigation, the FBI is examining payments of $500,000 in bitcoin to key figures and groups in the alt-right before the Jan. 6 riot.

    Antifa, however, rolls for multiple months on its own. BLM receives multibillion dooolars from good-hearted zionational actors, so that's ok.

    Who are those "key figures of the alt-right" and are they even connected to the ransackering? Who could be behind a transfer of those 15 bitcoins? And were they ever transformed into greenbacks (less taxes)? Was Oswald working alone? What was the role of John Doe #2 in the OKC bombing?


    Separately, a joint threat assessment issued this week by the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and various other federal and D.C.-area police agencies noted that since the Jan. 6 riot, "Russian, Iranian, and Chinese influence actors have seized the opportunity to amplify narratives in furtherance of their policy interest amid the presidential transition."
     
    I knew it! It was THEM!

    A shorter version

    https://www.rt.com/usa/512790-bitcoin-donation-capitol-riot/


    The bitcoin payment in question was reported on January 14 by the blog Chinanalysis and first highlighted by Yahoo News. The cryptocurrency amount of 28.15 BTC, which was worth around $522,000 at the time of its transfer on December 8, was sent to 22 separate addresses, with almost half of it going to Nick Fuentes.
     
    "Before January 6 == December 8"

    OKAY.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Mario Partisan

    As part of the investigation, the FBI is examining payments of $500,000 in bitcoin to key figures and groups in the alt-right before the Jan. 6 riot.

    Would I be thinking too hard or giving NBC too much credit if I thought they chose to place the phrase “alt-right” right before ‘Jan. 6 riot” in order to subliminally bolster the tenuous connection in the minds of careless readers?

  67. @Anon7
    I wrote something in the last week or so about samizdat, the underground process that distributed works of satire or social commentary in the former Soviet Union.

    Obviously, we can do better, assuming we're all allowed to purchase thumb drives and own some sort of computer to read them.

    Anyway, I think that you, Steve Sailer, and Ron Unz, and some of the other writers on this site should gather up all of the articles and the many comments, and just bundle them up and make them available on a regularly updated basis for everyone to download.

    Based on what I'm seeing now, you'd better get right on it if you're interested. This site could be cancelled at any time.

    Replies: @Charlesz Martel

    I have asked Steve for an archive of his old site- I am willing to pay for it. No response.

    I think that all controversial sites should scrape their sites themselves and then upload them to torrent sites. Tbe scraper programs have options to add on newer content, so this could be done weekly or monthly. Once we can download the entire sites we can rebuild the sites quickly if the left deplatforms them.

    I would be happy to financially help with this project, I suspect others would too.

    I fear time is running very short. The darkness is descending.

  68. @candid_observer
    You forgot pigeons!

    Kill all pigeons!

    They threaten democracy to the core! Plus, the poop...

    Replies: @Cortes, @Mike Tre

  69. @Jonathan Mason
    @Achmed E. Newman

    But podcasts are great for falling asleep to. They have disrupted the sleeping pill industry.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Hopefully not John Derbyshire’s. ;-}

  70. @Greta Handel
    @Jonathan Mason


    One such argument is that once these kind of things are put out in the public arena, they can affect all kinds of stupid impressionable, irresponsible people and lead them to commit stupid Acts.

    I’m perfectly willing to believe that many of the people who invaded the Capitol did not appreciate the seriousness of what they were doing, or the trouble that it could lead to. But that is precisely why they need to be protected from themselves.
     

    A big brother for everyone!

    Aren’t you the one who has advocated mandatory voting?

    Never mind — I guess that would work with the Establishment’s ballot.

    Replies: @Greta Handel

    Yes, here’s the same Jonathan Mason:

    All voting could be done online and administered by the IRS with social security numbers necessary to vote, and records kept of ip numbers.

    The majority of voters would probably be able to vote on their own computers, or on cell phones, or at work, but some voting centers would have to be set up for those who didn’t have access otherwise.

    Everything would thus be taken out of the hands of the states and the corrupt local officials.

    Voting should also be made mandatory, with tax refunds penalties for people who failed to vote.

  71. @Curle
    @Thomas

    Is this Shaniqua really an household name sufficient to be used in general conversation without further elaboration?

    Replies: @Thomas

    Yes.

  72. @HammerJack
    Wait til they find out that people can just talk to each other, without any media interaction at all. That'll throw them for a loop. Is there some way that plain old conversation can be canceled? Because something about it sounds vaguely racist, right on the surface of it.

    Replies: @CorkyAgain

    Like, for example, the two women who were kicked off the airplane when their pro-Trump conversation was overheard?

  73. @anon
    @RichardTaylor

    How do liberals themselves talk these days?

    Like Rachel Maddow. Or Tiny Duck.

    Do they engage in anything like discourse?

    Yes! Something that looks very much like discourse!

    Lot of furrowed-brow, serious chin-stroking, serious-face discourse. Of course they are just regurgitating MSNBC / NPR / HuffPo talking points to each other for the virtue signals, no real thought is required, but they take themselves very, very, very seriously.

    Imagine for a moment, that the Corvinus-bot were an actual human, sitting at the next table while you sip your coffee...yeah, like that. Some places I take my coffee are full of that, some of them really loud Boomers. When you have a hearing aid, you talk really loud. Never go out for coffee without earbuds!

    But...right now I'm listening to a couple of Zoomers comparing their parents divorces. Sad, but typical. One thing Boomers do better than anyone, even GenX, is divorce. Nobody divorces like the Baby Boomers.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Marty, @RichardTaylor

    Except Rachel is sincere and Duck is making fun of the Rachel Maddows.
    My experience of the discourse is the same as yours, furrowing their brows, competing to see who can agree more fervently than the other, and an occasional regretful head shake over the evil and stupidity of people who disagree with them.

  74. @El Dato
    @Jonathan Mason


    As I keep on saying if you choose to use a commercial service to put out your point of view, then you have to abide by the conditions of service.
     
    If the "conditions of service" stipulate that you may not vituperate against indivuals in private or in chatrooms or refrain from sending e-mail to Iran etc. fuck them.

    One such argument is that once these kind of things are put out in the public arena, they can affect all kinds of stupid impressionable, irresponsible people and lead them to commit stupid Acts.
     
    There is always some kind of speech that someone doesn't like.

    That's why there are laws against some things. That's not why there is Twitter Control or Google Mail Inspection.

    Probably a lot of them just wanted to impress a husband or wife or boyfriend or girlfriend. And will end up in prison.
     
    In that case the law is an ass. End of story.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    There is always some kind of speech that someone doesn’t like.

    IS FREE SPEECH OUTDATED?

    An old campaigner knows free speech

  75. @Macumazahn
    @Achmed E. Newman

    If this signal app uses a one-time pad, I'll eat my hat.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    No, I wasn’t trying to associate the two. Sorry for the confusion. You can keep your hat.

  76. @Anon
    @Jonathan Mason

    Nobody cares? Is that why Parler got shut down and DLive kicked off all the conservatives, after they got kicked off of YouTube? Shut your ignorant mouth. They won't even let us have our little ghetto. To a drone like you it doesn't matter, but it does matter to people who actually have a brain and use it.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    Jonathan Mason is starting to make Corvinus look like a D-Rightist.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  77. @Jonathan Mason
    @Almost Missouri

    Trump was a complete fool to hitch his wagon to the cause of hydroxychloroquine.

    Why the hell would you damage your credibility by mouthing off about something that you know absolutely nothing about when you have highly qualified experts who can advise you?

    Somebody has to step up to the plate to protect the public.

    As I keep on saying if you choose to use a commercial service to put out your point of view, then you have to abide by the conditions of service.

    Steve Sailer is perfectly within his rights to delete any or all of my comments, but he does not because he knows that they improve the quality of the discussion on his board.

    As I mentioned on one of the other posts, one of the most enduring topics of discussion on Reddit is why Tinder imposes seemingly arbitrary life bans on many of its paid up members for supposed misconduct, but does not refund their money.

    If an app that people have paid for can do this, then apps that people have not paid for can certainly do it even more.

    No one seems to be making a political issue out of this, but it is just another side of the same coin. (No, I am not banned from Tinder and I have no desire to be on Tinder.)

    Maybe people should be allowed to discuss how to bring down passenger airlines on Twitter for the sake of freedom of speech, but one can see certain arguments why this should not be allowed.

    One such argument is that once these kind of things are put out in the public arena, they can affect all kinds of stupid impressionable, irresponsible people and lead them to commit stupid Acts.

    I'm perfectly willing to believe that many of the people who invaded the Capitol did not appreciate the seriousness of what they were doing, or the trouble that it could lead to. But that is precisely why they need to be protected from themselves.

    Probably a lot of them just wanted to impress a husband or wife or boyfriend or girlfriend. And will end up in prison.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Almost Missouri, @BenKenobi, @Greta Handel, @Deadite, @anon, @AnotherDad

    Steve Sailer is perfectly within his rights to delete any or all of my comments, but he does not because he knows that they improve the quality of the discussion on his board.

    Or maybe Steve’s just an easy going guy.

  78. anon[221] • Disclaimer says:

    . . . speaking power to truth . . .

    After 1/20, possibly consolidating power.
    If we are lucky they will have hubris so that they screw up the power consolidation. A leading indicator: James Clyburn just got himself a little pet to control in the Oval Office but he is launching a campaign for the “Black National Anthem”. Mr. Clyburn could do anything he wants, but that appears to be it.
    Hopefully, screwups by screwballs abound.

  79. @Anon
    Someone pointed out that if the Biblical Rapture happened, and 100 million Christian Americans dissapeared, twitter wouldnt let you mention it and youtube wouldnt let you claim it happened.

    We would be told it was a mass alien abduction and all other explanations were hate speech

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    Someone pointed out that if the Biblical Rapture happened

    The rapture is not biblical. It is a very lately contrived Wesleyan heresy and is unknown in the apostolic faith.

  80. @anon
    @RichardTaylor

    How do liberals themselves talk these days?

    Like Rachel Maddow. Or Tiny Duck.

    Do they engage in anything like discourse?

    Yes! Something that looks very much like discourse!

    Lot of furrowed-brow, serious chin-stroking, serious-face discourse. Of course they are just regurgitating MSNBC / NPR / HuffPo talking points to each other for the virtue signals, no real thought is required, but they take themselves very, very, very seriously.

    Imagine for a moment, that the Corvinus-bot were an actual human, sitting at the next table while you sip your coffee...yeah, like that. Some places I take my coffee are full of that, some of them really loud Boomers. When you have a hearing aid, you talk really loud. Never go out for coffee without earbuds!

    But...right now I'm listening to a couple of Zoomers comparing their parents divorces. Sad, but typical. One thing Boomers do better than anyone, even GenX, is divorce. Nobody divorces like the Baby Boomers.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Marty, @RichardTaylor

    ”I know, right?”

    • Replies: @anon
    @Marty

    Perfect.

  81. @Marty
    @anon

    ”I know, right?”

    Replies: @anon

    Perfect.

  82. @anon
    @RichardTaylor

    How do liberals themselves talk these days?

    Like Rachel Maddow. Or Tiny Duck.

    Do they engage in anything like discourse?

    Yes! Something that looks very much like discourse!

    Lot of furrowed-brow, serious chin-stroking, serious-face discourse. Of course they are just regurgitating MSNBC / NPR / HuffPo talking points to each other for the virtue signals, no real thought is required, but they take themselves very, very, very seriously.

    Imagine for a moment, that the Corvinus-bot were an actual human, sitting at the next table while you sip your coffee...yeah, like that. Some places I take my coffee are full of that, some of them really loud Boomers. When you have a hearing aid, you talk really loud. Never go out for coffee without earbuds!

    But...right now I'm listening to a couple of Zoomers comparing their parents divorces. Sad, but typical. One thing Boomers do better than anyone, even GenX, is divorce. Nobody divorces like the Baby Boomers.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Marty, @RichardTaylor

    Lot of furrowed-brow, serious chin-stroking, serious-face discourse. Of course they are just regurgitating MSNBC / NPR / HuffPo talking points to each other for the virtue signals, no real thought is required, but they take themselves very, very, very seriously.

    Yeah, there is a strong element of playacting to it. Actually that may be all there is to it.

    It’s like the silly play government things we had to do in middle school. Or when an affirmative action woman or POC has a job and pretends to do something valuable for years on end. Many of them never realize what they do isn’t actually work.

  83. I’ll send an SOS to the world,
    I’ll send an SOS to the world,
    I hope that someone finds my message in a bottle,
    message in a bottle
    ,

    It was in fact a podcast, Radio Derb, that was my gateway to many other crimethinkers, including our gracious host Mr. Steve Sailer.

    How did I first learn of John Derbyshire? Quite possibly from hearing him as a guest one night on the late Alan Colmes’ radio show.

  84. As I keep on saying if you choose to use a commercial service to put out your point of view, then you have to abide by the conditions of service.

    A condition of service is, “We can kick you off any time we want. We don’t need a reason.”

    An illegal condition of service is unenforceable.

    I consider Twitter, Facebook, et al to be public accommodations. Once you put your shingle up as a “platform,” you must accept all. To kick someone off, you would need indisputable evidence of criminal action. Of which ‘misinformation’ is not. Parting your hair on the wrong side is not.

    The general claim of why platforms (sic) are kicking people off is that they post things that are wrong (more specifically, the strange construct of ‘misinformation’). Deciding something is ‘wrong’ makes them publishers. Making them even more obviously a public accommodation.

  85. @Reg Cæsar

    By TALI ARBEL
     
    Tali Arbel =

    Major social platforms have been cracking down on the spread of misinformation and conspiracy theories in the leadup to the presidential election...

     

    All a tribe.

    and expanded their efforts in the wake of the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

     

    Lie, lab rat!

    But Apple and Google...

     

    Bilateral.

    among others, have left open a major loophole for this material: Podcasts.

     

    Liable art.

    Podcasts made available by the two Big Tech companies let you tune into the world of the QAnon conspiracy theory...

     

    Alert a lib! Bare it all!

    wallow in President Donald Trump’s false claims of a stolen election and bask in other extremism.

     

    Bleat, liar.

    Accounts that have been banned on social media for election misinformation, threatening or bullying, and breaking other rules...

     

    A libel, rat! "I label, tar..."

    ...still live on as podcasts available on the tech giants’ platforms.
     
    Bear it all.
     

    Replies: @Gabe Ruth

    Rectification of names by anagram. Thank you for your dedication to your craft.

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