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From the Los Angeles Times:

SAT should be suspended for UC admissions, Napolitano says

UC [University of California, not University of Chicago] President Janet Napolitano recommends suspending the SAT and ACT as admissions requirements, proposing instead a plan to make them optional for two years.

By TERESA WATANABE STAFF WRITER
MAY 11, 20202:49 PM

Napolitano’s logic: The University of California’s budget will need every tuition-paying warm body it can get its hands on for the foreseeable future, so we can no longer afford to turn away applicants merely for their lack of intelligence.

In a major decision that could lead to a shake-up of the nation’s standardized testing landscape, University of California President Janet Napolitano is recommending the suspension of the SAT and ACT tests as an admissions requirement until 2024 and possible elimination after that — a move that could widen access to a UC education for disadvantaged students.

As everybody knows, University of California campuses are stuffed full of racoon coat-wearing Stutz Bearcat-driving WASP males in plus fours due to how the SAT/ACT tests are biased in favor of them:

For example, almost 20% of UC San Diego undergrads in La Jolla are white.

In a proposal posted Monday, Napolitano is recommending a complex and unusual five-year plan that would make the tests optional for two years and eliminate testing requirements for California students in years three and four. Then, in year five, UC would move toward a standardized assessment developed specifically for the 10-campus system.

Here’s a leaked draft of the upcoming admissions test:

  1. Do you hate cishet white males? (For example, Donald Trump is a cishet white male. You hate him, right? So answer “True.”)
  2. Do your parents have money to spend on your tuition? (A. Lots, B. Oodles, C. My grandfather is President of a country ending in -stan .)
  3. If your parents can’t pay, how do you feel about taking out loans? (A. Great B. Good, really really good. C, They aren’t debt, they are an investment in my future!)
  4. What do you know about compound interest? (A. My father’s accountant handles the details. B. I’m not a math person. C. Sounds fun!)

The plan would produce rich data on which students get admitted under each strategy and how they perform in college.

UC San Diego Class of 2023

Because nobody has never ever obtained that kind of data before. I’m sure it will prove that white males cheat like crazy on the SAT.

The recommendation is not completely in line with the Academic Senate, which recently voted unanimously to keep the tests for five years while alternatives are researched. But Senate Chair Kum-Kum Bhavnani [actual name] expressed appreciation that Napolitano adopted many key recommendations in a faculty task force report on testing, including development of a new assessment for the UC system.

“The Senate is pleased that the president’s recommendations are in line with the spirit of our recommendations,” Bhavnani said. “We look forward to working with the university to develop a new content-based test.”

Because, no doubt, we are the first organization of nice liberals in academia to ever notice that blacks and Latinos average worse on every single valid selection test ever invented, so creating a new one that is both valid and on which blacks and Latinos score at least as high as cishet white males should be a piece of cake. After all, the academic world is so racist that nobody ever thought of doing this before.

… The six universities that receive the most applications in the nation are UC campuses in Los Angeles, San Diego, Irvine, Berkeley, Santa Barbara and Davis. Last year, the UC system received 215,000 undergraduate applications.

Napolitano has identified standardized testing as a top issue facing the UC system and said regents needed to “get it right” because of the national implications of their action. UC’s decision a half-century ago to require the SAT propelled the test to a place of national prominence, and a move to eliminate the requirement in the early 1990s prompted the College Board to revise the exam to satisfy UC objections about its bias and relevance for admission reviews.

The head of UC decided that analogy questions were racist and that the SAT needed an essay question. That worked out well.

Now, however, the momentum against the tests seems inexorable, with Napolitano joining other prominent UC critics, including board Chair John A. Pérez, Vice Chair Cecilia Estolano, Regent Eloy Ortiz Oakley, Provost Michael Brown and UC Berkeley Chancellor Carol Christ.

Critics argue that the SAT and ACT are heavily influenced by race, income and education levels of parents; question their value in predicting college success; and express concern about inequitable access to test prep. Those concerns have prompted more than 1,000 colleges and universities to drop the testing requirement. A lawsuit against the UC system also calls for the requirement to be dropped….

Napolitano is proposing that UC experts launch a feasibility study this summer to identify a new test that assesses what the university expects students to master to demonstrate readiness for college. She said UC would consult with K-12 educators, test experts, UC faculty and California State University, which might also use the new assessment.

Because the new test would be put together by Diverse People, it won’t suffer from the Racist Bad Juju of every other test ever invented, which were invented by racist white men. As you know, white people having Bad Juju is Science.

If no test can be created in time for fall 2025 applicants, use of the SAT and ACT would be eliminated completely for California students.

In its own recommendation for a UC assessment, the faculty task force estimated it could take nine years to develop and some experts have put the potential cost at $100 million.

However, Li Cai, a UCLA statistician, psychologist and testing expert, has said that UC could move more quickly — and share the cost — by marshaling a national coalition to develop a state-of-the art assessment within five years. A new assessment could potentially begin with ninth-graders, he said, analyzing their growth throughout high school, and use newer testing technologies to measure not only academic knowledge, but other valued qualities such as curiosity, resilience and collaborative problem-solving skills.

In fact, I, Li Cai, being a Person of Diversity, wouldn’t mind heading up this $100 million effort, which, obviously, can’t fail because it’s racist to even imagine that it’s possible under the rules of the universe we inhabit that blacks aren’t as smart as Asians on average. In fact, it’s totally a coincidence that I am statistician named Li Cai rather than, say, Malcolm Washington. Trust me: I’m a statistician.

… Napolitano also asked faculty leaders for additional analysis about the reasons why UC students do not fully reflect the state’s diversity.

It’s almost as if a huge fraction of each UC class consists of high-scoring, full tuition-paying Asian foreign nationals.

In its February review, the task force found that the biggest reasons for the mismatch was not the SAT, but that smaller proportions of disadvantaged students took the full suite of required college preparatory courses and applied to UC.

In what it called surprising findings, the Academic Senate’s review found that the SAT actually helps disadvantaged students gain entry to the selective UC system. That’s because the way UC uses standardized test scores substantially corrects for bias by weighting them less heavily than grades and considering them as only one of 14 factors in a comprehensive review process, the review found.

It’s almost as if the University of California is systematically violating the California constitution as modified by Proposition 209 in 1996.

Campuses adjust for socioeconomic differences and admit disadvantaged students with lower test scores compared to more advantaged peers.

But UC isn’t cravenly lowering its standards out of money-grubbing the way you cynics think; instead it’s triumphantly lowering its standards in the name of Diversity Inclusion Equity.

 
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  1. C’mon, Steve. If Kum-Kum Bhavnani, John A. Pérez, Cecilia Estolano, Eloy Ortiz Oakley, and Li Cai can’t be trusted to run our big institutions, who can?

  2. 216 says:

    How about Affirmative Action for conservative professors?

    • Replies: @Alden
  3. https://www.mirrorandhammerfilms.com/

    Who I Am

    Kum-Kum Bhavnani

    Professor by day. Filmmaker by night.

    I am a university professor by day and a filmmaker by night. I fuse my scholarship with social justice through the combined lenses of the movie camera and critical research. I was born in India, grew up in London and arrived as a professor at UC Santa Barbara in 1991. I am active in efforts to create social justice and a more livable planet through anti-racism, feminism and movements that foster greater economic equality.

  4. 2 (a) Do your parents have a lot of money to spend on your tuition?

    (OR)

    2 (b) Are you comfortable about the prospect of Bernie Sanders not winning the election and forgiving the $78,000 that our finance office will be most glad to help you borrow with the backing of American taxpayers?

    FIFY!

    BTW, this is my kind of post, Steve – snarky, yet good commentary on our times. I appreciate at least 1/2 non Kung Flu coverage, if at all possible, especially with as few posts about facial tampons as possible.

    BTW, for Radical Center/Moshe/others from that previous thread that I just read. I was required by work to wear these. I and quite a few others have not been wearing them. I wish I could tell you more. I even had some young punks walk down the big hall and mutter something about “… what kind of role model…”. If I’d have more time for a comeback (you never do!), it’d have been “yeah, I’m a role model of how to get the hell off your smart phone for a while and live your life!”

  5. anon[664] • Disclaimer says:

    • Replies: @trelane
  6. For too long state universities have aped their private research university counterparts and forgotten their core mandates: to educate and train citizens. I’m sorry (not really, actually) that this may result in degrees from certain universities being devalued, to all you alumni, but Californians wanted — and I state this absolutely, as both reflected in voting habits and who was hired for labor by existing Californians — a state where most kids were Hispanic of Mexican extraction. And yep, those kids should make up most of the UC system. Without question. And this isn’t satire. A people reap what they sow.

    Trying to keep the UC system propped up academically by using native Americans of all stripes — that includes whites, Asian-Americans, etc — and imported Asians was truly a most ignorant, worthless, baseless, useless, senseless, and idiotic idea. Who would be so clueless as to perceive they had the voting power to stop this by sacrificing a few Cal State campuses only? Californians.

    • Agree: Neoconned
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    , @anonymous
  7. International Jew [AKA "Hebrew National"] says:

    Our age should be known as “the counter-enlightenment”.

  8. Reading these stories, I’m glad I had all daughters. If I had a son, it would force me into taking a cultural stand, which makes me uncomfortable and seems low-rent.

    Don’t get me wrong. I care deeply about the future of White culture, but I demonstrate this by reading Winston Churchill biographies and building Ancestry.com family trees, as opposed to showing preference for young White people or knowing my White next door neighbors’ first names.

    This way I get the moral self-satisfaction, without any personal risk. It’s quite nice, actually.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Jon
  9. The Asians will go nuts over this. But I think the plan is that the politicians will be insulated because the decision will be by the Board of Regents. By the way, if you skim over the Regent’s Bios you can see where they are coming from agenda-wise.

    https://regents.universityofcalifornia.edu/about/members-and-advisors/index.html

    • Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.)
    , @Anonymous
    , @fish
  10. Reading these stories, I’m glad I had all daughters. If I had a son, it would force me into taking a cultural stand, which makes me uncomfortable and seems low-rent.

    Don’t get me wrong. I care deeply about the future of White culture, but I demonstrate this by reading Winston Churchill biographies and building Ancestry.com trees, as opposed to showing preference for young White people or knowing my White next door neighbors’ first names.

    This way I get the moral self-satisfaction, without any personal risk. It’s quite nice, actually.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.)
  11. The Auditor of the State of California discovered the Napalitano had hidden assets of $175 million while asking for a tuition hike. She retires as president and returns to academia as a full professor at I think $300K.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    , @vhrm
  12. If we can develop an atomic bomb,

    send people to the Moon,

    and come up with a vaccine for SARS-CoV-2 (which everyone just assumes we can do)

    then we can slap together a test that dumb people can score high on.

    As JFK would have said, “I propose that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before 2025, of designing a college entrance exam on which the stupidest students score as high as the smartest.”

    Or in the words of Chris Cuomo, “Let’s get after it.”

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  13. @Hypnotoad666

    My direct experience in California: both Asian-Americans and Asians (and Indians) constantly prattle on about how wonderful diversity is. Regardless of their feelings on taxation, illegal immigration, trade, etc. Because it benefits them tremendously vs Heritage Americans. Absolutely pin the percentage of UC students to the ethnic percentage of the young in California. Absolutely. It needs to be done. We have a federal system: let the experiment commence in California.

    • Agree: Gyre07
    • Replies: @Neuday
  14. Mike Tre says:

    European descended whites with young male children: Get them in trade school. 100k per year by the time they are 30 with no tuition debt. We will need smart people to rebuild the US once the POC finish wrecking it.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    , @GU
  15. BenKenobi says:

    Past 9pm here on the West Coast… several prominent typos…. an evergreen iSteve subject…

    Steve-a-rino, have you been sippin’ tonight? No judgment, I often drink-and-Unz. Just a coupla’ drinks, Rand-randy-man. Go with the liquor, flow with it.

  16. @Red Blooded American Boomer

    I approve. Though strangely, many white Americans of all ages deeply care about being American, first and foremost. I mean, a country like Belarus is much whiter than America, but it’s not my people or culture. And Winston Churchill, although indeed white, and even from America’s mother country, is a foreigner to Americans. I recommend Teddy Roosevelt. You can never go wrong with Teddy. He also remained vigorous well into advanced age: an excellent model to aspire to.

  17. pirelli says:

    OT: perhaps the purest ever distillation of Magic Dirt / Tragic Dirt doctrine appeared in today’s NYTimes:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/05/11/opinion/coronavirus-us-cities-inequality.amp.html

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  18. Mr. Anon says:
    @Red Blooded American Boomer

    Okay. I get it know. Your first couple posts had me fooled. But you are obviously a parody-poster.

  19. Mr. Anon says:

    Of course Janet Napolitano has no children. Childless people should not be making policy decisions affecting the future.

    • Agree: Farenheit
    • Replies: @Daniel Williams
  20. as far as i can tell no cishet white men with high test scores are allowed to comment at unz.

    steve is such a pathetic lying piece of shit./

    • Disagree: res
  21. Mr. Anon says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    As JFK would have said, “I propose that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before 2025, of designing a college entrance exam on which the stupidest students score as high as the smartest.”

    I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of sending a latinx to Berkeley and safely graduating xer with a degree in gender-studies.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  22. Today I was on an email thread discussing SNPs and IQ. Researchers are earnestly involved, but only the newbs would commit to sending that out. But he is Chinese and doesn’t know the social protocols 🙂

  23. donut says:

    This is off topic but I was talking with a friend of mine tonight about the difference between friends and acquaintances . Acquaintances you will find wherever you go at any job . Having spent so many years on ships and later as a nurse at different jobs I learned that acquaintances can make life so much easier and that they are to be valued BUT friends are rare , friends are a gift that we cannot chose . At 69 I am gifted with only a handful of friends . There are no friends here , barely even acquaintances . Are any of you my friends ? I think not. But even online I have made two friends . The internet splinters us and weakens us .

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @AKAHorace
    , @J.Ross
    , @Leo D
  24. If (Carol) Christ is for it, who can be against it?

  25. @PiltdownMan

    Is this the first confirmed pic of Tiny Duck?

    • LOL: Unladen Swallow
  26. I foresee the following train wreck:

    Committee of correctly diverse individuals (that is fifty percent black and fifty percent nonwhite) generates a list of hundreds or thousands of questions. Said committee, using suitably diverse cross section of population (which includes whites) determines which questions adequately measure intelligence, meaning those that blacks and Mexicans get but whites and Asians don’t, and uses the good questions to make up the new test.

    Train wreck occurs when there are no questions that perform as required except those dealing with crime, baby mamas and Ebonics.

    • Replies: @vhrm
  27. @Mr. Anon

    Childless people should not be making policy decisions affecting the future.

    Thank God no one listened to anything Plato had to say, right?

  28. Barnard says:

    After 9/11 it was stunning to many Americans that we increased Muslim immigration into the US. Can we assume the response to the Wuhan Flu will efforts to increase the number of Chinese students in American colleges?

    • Replies: @peterike
  29. Our Left is dishonest and, as a consequence, anti-scientific. The express purpose is of avoiding “prejudice” against minority, or, equivalently, doubts of the egalitarian dogma.
    As a corrolary, nobody can ever venture the racist and prejudiced idea that “minorities” have lower test scores because they have lower performance. So this PC Gag order, or the egalitarian axiom, are the foundation of all evil. See our sincerity dot net site.
    Honest serious research about college performance shows that lower IQ, lower SAT students will drag performance down. Prepare for US colleges to slip out of the Top 100 University rankings, and Korean, Japanese, Chinese, and Israeli institutions to take their place. No, not European Universities, if they don’t have Muslim quotas yet, they will have them soon.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  30. @Buffalo Joe

    Buffalo Joe,

    The University of California maintains a handy, publicly searchable database of employee salaries.

    https://ucannualwage.ucop.edu/wage/

  31. Biasing tests of spatial or mathematical reasoning is quite difficult, but slanting verbal tests in one direction or another to favor a particular group is quite easy. For example many more men than women know what the word ‘codec’ means, many more women than men know what the word ‘chartreuse’ means. Depending on the words you choose for an analogies section you can slant the scores in whatever direction you want. Likewise people with a familiarity with a particular subject will do better in a test of reading comprehension that references that subject. For example, Americans will score slightly better than expected on a test of comprehension of a passage that discusses some aspect of a baseball game, as opposed to a cricket match. While these aren’t huge effects, the test writer can certainly put their thumb on the scale.

    The fact that no one to date has created a test of verbal intelligence that blacks and Hispanics can outscore whites is actually quite shocking, given the huge rewards awaiting someone who could do so–it would likely supplant the SAT and ACT as the dominant college admissions test. The fact that it hasn’t been done suggests that black/Hispanic intelligence lags so markedly that it is a virtually impossible task.

    This is also why many doubt the claim that men and women are of equal intelligence on average, but women score higher on measures of verbal intelligence. I would be hard pressed to make a test of spatial reasoning that women outscore men, but I could without much trouble make a test of verbal reasoning that men outscore women. The questions would look like this:

    1.) Differential : axle

    a.) mirror : windshield
    b.) transmission : driveshaft
    c.) wheel : brake

    2.) spear : halberd

    and so on.

    • LOL: Coemgen
    • Replies: @Unit472
    , @Jim Don Bob
    , @Coemgen
  32. If this plan goes through, Berkeley will start admitting students who make Kashawn Campbell look like John Stuart Mill.

  33. Let it burn.

    Is that a viable strategy?

  34. The big losers of these sorts of efforts (apart from Asians and Whites, obviously) are the serious students of the humanities and social sciences. None of the unqualified admits are going into STEM fields, and those that do will be quickly washed out because of the black-and-white nature of these fields. They’ll end up in non-quantitative subjects, where the instructor evaluates them subjectively (and adds a few points to their grade for being black) and eventually they will graduate and devalue the degree for the people who are serious students of the humanities/social sciences.

    I’m a STEM guy myself but I personally think the emphasis on STEM in education is just cargo-cultism. People see that STEM graduates aren’t drooling retards and they assume that the nature of STEM education made them that way, rather than the truth, which is that the NAMs got weeded out in Calculus I.

  35. Anon[233] • Disclaimer says:

    That wave of foreign students who came to the US, starting in 1980s or so, now has kids and wants their offspring to go to US colleges, because their own educational years in the US made them realize how badly their own third-world colleges sucked.

    What Harvard used to be, the college for the rich elite, is now something every podunk college in America is going to become, thanks to the fact that well-heeled third-worlders have learned contempt for their own institutions of learning.

  36. Anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @donut

    “I have no friends.”

    “I told you I have no friends”

    Some of Richard Burton’s dialogue in “The Spy Who Came In From the Cold”

    • Replies: @neprof
  37. Note the lack of “Jewish” category in the UCSD data. My guess: they’re overrepresented in that white category. Probably half of it. The remainder, gentile whites, probably splits 80/20 F/M. You’re looking at about 2% gentile white male.

    • Replies: @res
  38. @Daniel Williams

    Senate Chair Kum-Kum Bhavnani [actual name] expressed appreciation

    “Actual name” doesn’t preclude the possibility that K-K made it up and had it changed by deed poll, just to ‘F’ with you wypipos.

    • Replies: @82-IQ H1B Indian
  39. Jon says:
    @Red Blooded American Boomer

    Not all heroes wear capes

    • LOL: Cortes
  40. @XYZ (no Mr.)

    “Diversity and Inclusion” is already an official metric included in the USN&WR college rankings, which has begun to disadvantage certain smaller colleges in the hinterlands where “Diversity and Inclusion” hasn’t heretofore been keen on migrating, even for four years.

    It’s not much of a stretch to figure that this metric will become more and more important as the years go by, with a presumed upper bound of 100% of the overall assessment, but who knows? We’re not so good at math anymore.

    Anyway this is one reason why what used to be called ‘merit’ will matter less than ever: colleges which dispense with it will not be punished. Quite the contrary.

  41. I’m so glad I graduated from high school when I did, and did not have all this stuff arrayed against me.

    That said, it’s the same thing in the corporate world. Which is why I feel so frustrated and marginalized, and am resentful about my financial situation. At least I have a long runway to try and make up lost ground, or get on a streak of good luck, eventually.

    I feel badly for all the women who can’t find a good man now. In our hearts, most people want to settle down and have children. There is going to be a whole generation of childless women, spinsters.

    For women, whose timeline for this is significantly limited by the biological clock, it must be really, really disheartening.

    That is why I can’t understand liberal women. Don’t they see that they are just harming themselves by preventing straight men from earning good salaries doing something relatively prestigious, taking these men out of (at least the urban, upper middle class) dating pool?

    • Agree: Smithsonian_6
    • Replies: @Whiskey
  42. bomag says:
    @PiltdownMan

    I guess if anybody knows about creating a more livable planet, it would be an ethnic Indian.

    • Replies: @anon
  43. Rob McX says:

    Short version: Bend over, Whitey.

  44. Polynikes says:

    Although I know this has been in the works for a while, but this might be the year it gets implemented. How many of these Chinese students do they have paying full boat? 500-1000? Multiplied by $40k. If they don’t come, that’s what…a few million dollars, at least?

    Then factor in the state budgets that will have to be cutting back funding to education thanks to the corona-fueled recession and you’ll get some pressure to admit more domestic students. I’m sure the feds will do something helpful like make it even easier for these poor saps to borrow six figures to go to these institutions that are suddenly throwing the doors open (for a price).

  45. @Sincerity.net

    If you ask me, American universities in general are living off of reputation mainly, at this point. They say reputations are easily lost but hard to gain back. I think they take a while to be lost. It’s become a scam, and eventually enough people will realize this for the bubble to pop.

  46. Anon[233] • Disclaimer says:

    The fundamental problem with Latinos not getting into UC colleges is that they had the bad luck to be applying in a generation in which American colleges are receiving an avalanche of applications. Even though there are more Latinos than ever in California, California colleges (like the rest of US colleges) are more popular to go to.

    If you look at admissions data, Berkeley admits 16% of its applicants, UCLA admits 12%, etc. Those are ridiculously selective numbers for a state school. If you’re a Latino, your best chance of getting in is one of the less prestigious branches like UC-Santa Cruz, and even they still reject half their applicants. Considering that some of those rejected students probably have good enough grades and scores to graduate from your average not-too-demanding State U, there’s quite a large number of California natives who are not getting the chance to go to college. If they apply to private colleges or a state school elsewhere, they’re going to get hit pretty badly by higher tuition costs, which many of them may not be able to afford.

    What UC needs more than anything is to create another branch or two of its university system so they can let in more students, not try to dumb down a test to fill a racial quota.

    e. g., UC-Oakland. *cough cough*

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @vhrm
    , @Anon
  47. @trelane

    Only a million? Must be an old video. We need a million per week now.

    Also, can we talk about his beautiful hair?

  48. Jon says:

    The six universities that receive the most applications in the nation are UC campuses in Los Angeles, San Diego, Irvine, Berkeley, Santa Barbara and Davis.

    Poor Riverside. But at least they have Merced to kick around now.

  49. benjaminl says:
    @PiltdownMan

    UCSB students are able to enjoy the fruits of Professor Bhavnani’s deep wisdom at the bargain cost to California taxpayers of $290,000 per year.

    https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/search/?a=university-of-california&q=bhavnani&y=

    https://www.soc.ucsb.edu/faculty/kum-kum-bhavnani

    Kum-Kum Bhavnani is Distinguished Professor of Sociology. Her research interest lie within development, feminist and cultural studies. She has published a number of books and articles including Talking Politics (1991, Cambridge University Press), Shifting Identities Shifting Racisms (Sage 1994: co-edited with An Phoenix), Feminism and ‘Race’ (2001, Oxford University Press) and Feminist Futures (Zed 2003: co-edited with Johan Foran and Priya Kurian). In 2006 she completed a feature documentary film, The Shape of Water (narrated by Susan Sarandon (http://www.theshapeofwatermovie.com) which spans three continents and was filmed over four years. Her next research documentary, also narrated by Susan Sarandon, premiered in 2012. Nothing Like Chocolate(http://nothinglikechocolate.com) narrates the story of an anarchist chocolate maker living in the rainforests of Grenada who creates world-renowned chocolate sustainably and ethically. Her 2014 documentary, Lutah (https://vimeo.com/87403939), focuses on an independent Santa Barbara-based architect, Lutah Maria Riggs, who, among other spaces, designed the Lobero Theater and the Vedanta Temple. In 2018, she premiered We Are Galapagos, a research documentary focused on the people in the Galapagos who work on innovative ways to save their islands, the wildlife and the planet. You Think you Can’t Dance? premiered in February 2019. This short research documentary examined how and why ballroom dancing has become a significant pastime in the 21st century. She is presently working on her next documentary, Science for Nuns/Monks, (working title: funded by the John Templeton Foundation) which examines how and why Tibetan Buddhist monastics are learning astrophysics and neuro psychology alongside their study of Buddhist sutras.

    • Thanks: Currier House
  50. Squid says:

    ‘So, milud, who chased whom around the walls of what?’

    This question is said to have been the ‘exit exam’ for especially wealthy or high-born students at Oxbridge (Oxford+Cambridge) in the good old days. Or something like that.

    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    My apologies if someone else has replied in this vein before me. I’m tired and chose not to scan all the earlier comments.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  51. AKAHorace says:
    @donut

    Are any of you my friends ? I think not. But even online I have made two friends . The internet splinters us and weakens us .

    Sorry, I am not your friend, just an aquaintance, but well done for making two real friends over the internet. They might be easier to talk to than friends that you have made in your day to day life. You are two ahead of me.

  52. @Anon

    It took almost two decades to build UC Merced and then when it finally opened it got so unpopular that nobody wants to go there.

    • Replies: @Anon
  53. vhrm says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    i hate to say it but i respect her/them for keeping a rainy day fund. Trying to run any organization with your annual income at the whim of the legislature and tax revenue while your costs are basically fixed is insane.

    It’s just crisis after crisis after crisis unless you smooth it out.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  54. ic1000 says:

    As has been said many times at this site, explicit racial quotas would be better for the more qualified people of each race. And more honest.

    If Dr. Napolitano wants to privilege white Gentiles (34% of the state) by boosting their UCSD quota to 18% of the freshman spots, let her take the heat for that stand.

  55. J.Ross says:
    @donut

    Russians (and I am told Chinese), who have a society with lots of hostile strangers but one or two friends who will help bury a body if you show up in the dead of night, often complain that American society has no friendship at all.

    • Agree: AKAHorace
    • Replies: @Twinkie
    , @Smithsonian_6
  56. anon[128] • Disclaimer says:
    @bomag

    I guess if anybody knows about creating a more livable planet, it would be an ethnic Indian.

    Flush toilets are a racist social construct you bigot.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    , @Reg Cæsar
  57. AKAHorace says:

    In a proposal posted Monday, Napolitano is recommending a complex and unusual five-year plan that would make the tests optional for two years and eliminate testing requirements for California students in years three and four. Then, in year five, UC would move toward a standardized assessment developed specifically for the 10-campus system.

    Actually for once (for a Steve Sailer post) it is possible that this is not a story about race or immigration or (as Steve points out) brains. A lot of universities will be in trouble because of the effect of the Coronavirus. There are going to be a lot fewer foreign students and a lot who can do distance education. They are desperate to do whatever it takes to get fee paying students enrolled. They don’t care about race, nationality or gender, they just need the money. Stupid people with money who want to get into a university with a reasonable reputation.

    Just to keep their heads above water until the situation improves for them. Look there are a lot of tenured profs and administrators, you start firing them and it will be blood in the water for the unis reputation. It will make the university look as if it is in trouble and that will set off a chain reaction of problems. You just need to maintain an illusion of normality until this problem goes away.

    • Agree: 82-IQ H1B Indian
    • Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.)
  58. @Mr McKenna

    It is not a made up name. Kumkuma is the red color powder that you see on the forehead of dot Indians. But no one breaks it into Kum-Kum. It should be single word.
    (From her self description she is probably a SJW loonie)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumkuma

  59. vhrm says:
    @James Speaks

    There won’t be even those.

    If it’s a high stakes test you could make the whole thing in Spanish, or about about Oakland geography, or about the details of seasonal agricultural labor, or sneakers, or rap lyrics.

    After two or three years the scores would look the same as they do now.

  60. You can make is easy for anyone to get in into STEM fields. But how are you going to send them out?.

    • Agree: notsaying
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    , @JMcG
  61. res says:
    @Alan Mercer

    Somewhat surprisingly to me, that seems very much not the case. Hillel reports 1% Jewish (though they look a bit math challenged in that 550/28587 = 1.92%):
    https://www.hillel.org/college-guide/list/record/university-of-california–san-diego

    This page has some detailed demographic information:
    https://datausa.io/profile/university/university-of-california-san-diego

    The best table for looking at this (though it uses degrees awarded rather than all students, which will obviously bias the results) is Race & Ethnicity by Gender near the bottom.
    They show 13.4% white males and 11.8% white females. I am amazed by how few black males (0.48% vs. 0.8% black females) get degrees there.

    If you click on view data for that chart you can see numerical values from 2012-2017.

  62. anon[225] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    You can tell that for the country as a whole, not just universities.

  63. vhrm says:
    @Anon

    You’re missing the California State colleges which are a tier of schools below the UC system.

    like San Francisco State University and San Jose State University and many others.

    Their acceptance rate if up to 80%
    (https://www.collegetuitioncompare.com/compare/tables/?state=CA&type=Public&factor=acceptance-rate)

    And even that doesn’t tell the whole story since there’s also the Community College system from which you can transfer to a State or UC if you can maintain a reasonable GPA without ever taking an SAT or ACT right now.

    If you are a CA resident (even if illegal) and have any capacity to benefit from a college education you can get a 4 year degree at a state school of some sort. (though popular majors like Business and Computer “stuff” are competitive to various degrees)

    There’s also the fact that with the advent of online applications, and waived fees for some it’s easy to apply to a lot of places. So many people apply to reach schools because, why not?

  64. Rahan says:

    It took GloboHomo quite a while to figure out that if you replace high IQ western whites with high IQ eastern asians, neo-feudalism of lording it over mouth-breathing porn’n’hiphop masses simply doesn’t happen fast enough. Especially with eastern asians being even less prone to become antidepressant and opiate addicts or single mommies. Very “bad material”.

    Eastern asians also need to be replaced, not just whites. The current “geopolitical conflict with China” is a wonderful opportunity for both sides of GloboHomo (both the neocon/corporate side and the liberast/dindu side), because now they can once more do the same thing for different official reasons.

    The quasi-right wing gets their “conflict with godless communists”, while the quasi left-wing gets a new opportunity to purge high achievers and replace them with master-dependent dimwits and stoners.

    I’ve been saying this for months: Hindus (and Pakis) are the future demographic “competent social layer” of the whole Anglosphere. Same population as China, vastly higher birth rate, they’re a bottomless human resourse factory. They’re smart enough to keep society from collapsing (Sri Lanka is possibly the best example “in vacuum”, them being an island), and can even create and maintain white people tech from circa 1960 (nukes and reaching orbit), but they’re also 20-30 IQ points below the (((elites))).

    Smart enough to keep society running above Zimbabwe/Guatemala levels, but not smart enough to not be putty in the hands of the social engineers.

    Whites and east asians get in the way of that. The only whites and east asians who can have a place in the new system, are the ones whose every facial microexpression, every word and every gesture, are according to the party line. The rest need to go, and be replaced with hindus who balance out the dindus. And the guatemalans.

    • Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.)
  65. Unit472 says:
    @SimpleSong

    You must have done poorly on the SAT because that is not how analogy questions work. They might ask , If wheel is to brake which most closely desscribes its function.

    A circle
    B support
    C transmission
    D axle

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
  66. Twinkie says:
    @J.Ross

    American society has no friendship at all.

    https://digitalcommons.iwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1000&context=psych_honproj

    This is a highly limited survey with a lot of caveats, but the conclusion is that friendship in South Korea is limited in number and higher in exclusivity than that in the United States.

  67. @anon

    So is a planet with fewer than twenty billion POCs, apparently.

  68. @AKAHorace

    Whatever they think will happen, it you have a prestigious UC campus with 50 percent Hispanic enrollment for a couple of years (to roughly match the state’s youth), you’re not going to magically ratchet that back down very much at all after the economic effects of Wuhan virus blow over. It’s a one way process. And they are public universities, meant for the people of the state.

    • Thanks: AKAHorace
  69. @vhrm

    Yes, and every state I’m aware of has some schools which are ‘better’ than others. The news is that everyone must be admitted into the very ‘best’ of them, else racism. What are the others for then?

  70. @Achmed E. Newman

    US Universities, the entire Western countries run on their old reputation and old reserves. It is like a old high quality company starts cashing in on their valuable brand by selling millions of low to mid quality items, like cars, or bicycles. After a few years, the super reputation is gone, but they managed to cash in.
    For US Universities it makes some sense. They have to accept dim-witted low paying “minorities”, so they might as well accept dim witted high paying Asians. It also helps to drag down the annoyingly high Asian Averages, and give an excuse to further reduce Asian in state students. Exchange less high performing low paying Asians, for more mediocre-performing high paying Asians.
    Good for money, bad for performance and long term reputation.
    American STEM students should prepare to learn Japanese or Chinese for future top Universities.

  71. @Rob McX

    Agreed. We’ve told our youngest daughter she needs to think outside the box in terms of her collegiate career. I’ve suggested she do some charity work in Sub-Saharan Africa, since it gets the most mileage with adcoms.

    She could emphasize doing the African charity work in her undergraduate essay, and becoming a sexual assault survivor for her grad school admissions.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
  72. anon[268] • Disclaimer says:

    As everybody knows, University of California campuses are stuffed full of racoon coat-wearing Stutz Bearcat-driving WASP males

    wait … you left out … they are also frat boys! (the most feared oppressive beasts of all)

  73. JimB says:

    Seriously, who cares if UC goes open enrollment? Undergraduate degrees don’t matter any more.

  74. Disadvantaged, first-gen… Blah blah. Just the latest lingo to justify admitting unqualified nonwhites. Part of the ongoing DIE project. The consequences of leftist institution-capture before our very eyes.

  75. anon[128] • Disclaimer says:
    @Red Blooded American Boomer

    Red Blooded American Boomer, you’re my new fave Person Of Comment.

  76. Anonymous[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    YIKES!

    [Student Regent Hayley Weddle] is currently the co-chair of the UC San Diego Basic Needs Committee and the UC San Diego graduate student representative to the UC systemwide Title IX Advisory Board. Previously, she served as the Chief of Staff for the UC San Diego Graduate Student Association.

    Ms. Weddle completed her MA in Higher Edu[ma]cation Leadership at San Diego State University, where she developed a passion for research related to access, equity, and student success. Following her time at SDSU, she worked for several years as a staff member at UC San Diego advising the undergraduate student government. In this role, she oversaw the development of the campus’s first food pantry and currently represents UC San Diego on the system-wide Food Access and Security committee.

    Before Ms. Weddle came in to save them, students simply went hungry.

    As a doctoral student, she has extended her research to the K-12 system, focusing on efforts to improve instruction in low-performing middle schools.

    Ms. Weddle graduated summa cum laude from UC Santa Barbara in 2011 double majoring in Accounting and Sociology and received her master’s degree in postsecondary edu[ma]cational leadership from San Diego State University in 2013.

    Post-secondary edumacational leadership is a thing, apparently, just like quantum physics or classical studies.

    • LOL: bomag
  77. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Currier House

    Women prefer to share a few Uber Alphas than have all of a beta male. It’s why bartenders and bike messengers pull hotter women than Zuck, Bezos or Gates.

    Male intelligence is repulsive to women. Always has been, always will be.

    Prop 209 Steve is dead. The Legislature is overturning it in formality but it has been dead since it passed.

    Universities don’t care about money. They will get that trillion dollar bailout Newsom demanded. Jill Biden will make sure it passes while Hunter loots the nation like a Ukraine President.

    No.

    This is about no Whites allowed In the UC system. No. Whites. Bye Whitey!

    Money? Why would anyone care about that. It’s bailout city for every big Dem state. UC does not care about money. They have power. Money flows to them.

    You think Putin or Xi balance their checkbook? UC is the think tank for Get Whitey. Every insane Pol Pot idea comes from there first. They have plenty of money and so will nearly every university and college.

    • Agree: JMcG
  78. @benjaminl

    “Kum-Kum Bhavnani is Distinguished Professor of Sociology.”

    I don’t know which fragment is funnier: ‘Kum-Kum Bhavnani is distinguished’ or the fact that they used “distinguished” and “sociology” in the same sentence.

    There is a tragic aspect to all this though: this foreign bint gets to professionally practice her well-paid douchebaggery in Santa freakin’ Barbara, the pleasantest place on Earth, when that slot could have rightfully been given to some American douchebag. That is just one more nice American “better life” given away for no reason, to be lived instead by some foreigner with no claim to it. God isn’t making any more endowed chairs in Santa Barbara, there is no reason to give them away to foreigners.

  79. Graduates of the University of California get good and well paid Jobs. Thus let us get some dim-witted students and graduate them from the University of California, so they get successful and hired by the greatest companies. What could go wrong?

    Innate talent must not exist, by PC dogma. Any dummy that gets an affirmative action graduation from U of California will be a high performing engineer. Once students step onto UC soil they will be intelligent, and high performing (magic dirt theory). What could go wrong?
    Let us send all our 20 year old couch potatoes to a 4 months Thai boxing training camp. And let us close the height gap at the NBA and train all the 5 ‘ 1’’ adults in basketball training camps. The first 5’1’’ Michael Jordan successor will become reality.

  80. @Rahan

    Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, and Kerala — Indian states where many (if not most) Indians in the tech industry in America come from, have total fertility rates of 1.7 to 1.9. South India in general has below replacement fertility rates. I’m too lazy to look it up, but I’ve never worked with an Indian co-worker in America who ever had more than one child. I’m sure it happens, but it’s no doubt rare.

    The north Indian states with high birthrates and grinding poverty are not going to be producing middle layer footsoldiers of any kind for the Anglosphere in any great quantities.

    The sad truth for us civic nationalists is that merely pausing immigration for about 20 or 30 years would force assimilation of Indian and East Asian immigrants, through almost no effort on the part of Americans. Those populations would just continuously decrease and be absorbed.

    Of course, many in those communities realize that also, which is why many are fervently pro-immigration.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  81. Anon[596] • Disclaimer says:

    The woke URM faculty crowd have been pushing for the Smarter Balanced test to replace the SAT and ACT. The faculty task force report that recently (but pre-COVID) examined the situation found that although URM applicants seem to suffer from less of a gap on the current multi-state version of the Smarter Balanced test, they said that this was simply because it was a low stakes test that Asian and white students and their parents couldn’t care less about. Once it becomes THE test determining acceptance, then everything changes, and the gap will regappify in a major way. If anything, the SB is somewhat more susceptible to test prep and less of a pure cognitive ability test than the SAT and the ACT.

    The idea that there is a “non-biased” test that blacks are going to do well on is an eternal pot at the end of the rainbow. Everyone needs to accept that wuotas are the only thing that will work.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
    , @res
  82. moshe says:

    OT: Well, well, well….

    From the CDC: Even with no work accidents or car crashes New York City experienced over 5,000 excess deaths in 2 months of The Panic that could not be attributed to Covid.

    https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/nyc-deaths-non-covid-causes-172625959.html

    As Pirkei Avos says: “Running from Covid only makes Covid run after you”.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    , @Redman
  83. anon[121] • Disclaimer says:
    @Red Blooded American Boomer

    We’ve told our youngest daughter she needs to think outside the box

    Didn’t you mean to write “We’ve told my wife’s youngest daughter…”?

  84. @Unit472

    No, that is exactly the format that SAT analogy questions used to be in (though they haven’t been used for some time.) You can google it if you don’t believe me. A is to B as C is to D, written as A:B :: C:D.

    I’m not sure how to parse the word salad that is your comment, perhaps you thought the question was invalid because you don’t know what the word ‘differential’ would mean in this context? A differential is a mechanical component in an automobile; torque is transmitted from the differential to the axles. Likewise torque is transmitted from the engine to the transmission. Thus, a differential is to the axles as an engine is to the transmission. differential : axles :: engine : transmission. Make sense?

    That’s exactly my point, though: you don’t know what a differential is, you think it has to do with differences instead of being an arrangement of gears, so you can’t even understand the question, much less answer correctly. Not to assume your gender, but men are much more likely to answer this question correctly than women because they are more likely to be interested in the internals of automobiles and thus possess the specialized vocabulary associated with this question. Of course you could turn the tables with a question that uses vocabulary that females are more likely to be familiar with than males.

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
  85. ATBOTL says:
    @Anon

    Why not have a basketball tournament for admission? It would be fun to force the university to have a student body entirely made up of the best basketball players and no one else. What would that look like? What group would suffer most? Guatemalans?

  86. @SimpleSong

    Minor edit- I think my original post used transmission : driveshaft instead of engine: transmission. Regardless torque goes from engine to transmission to driveshaft so the analogy holds.

    • Replies: @anon
  87. Anonymous[221] • Disclaimer says:

    Why can’t these duplicitous two faced bastards actually be honest for once in their lives – you know the old saying “Tell the truth and shame the Devil” – and just explicitly say what they mean, that is “White men are not welcome or wanted here”.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  88. Lagertha says:

    What! The most intelligent foreign & American students will take a “gap year.” Or, their parents will say: you’re taking a gap year. Money is a serious consideration.

    And, if any of these fracking Uni’s close their doors to bring on on-line classes in the fall and/or winter, it is more reinforced, reinforced that they are taking substandard on-line courses. A substandard education that means shit in a few years.

    Young people do not care about anyone over 30 – so, professors are so over. If the universities do not get the students to arrive to open classes, they all die, hahhahahhahahhaaaaaaaaaaaa. Good riddance!

    Why would any family pay for Harvard when DeVry, Southern New Hampshire University, and many on-line Uni’s, teach the same stuff? for pennies compared to Harvard.

    • Replies: @AnonAnon
  89. @XYZ (no Mr.)

    The sad truth for us civic nationalists is that merely pausing immigration for about 20 or 30 years would force assimilation of Indian and East Asian immigrants, through almost no effort on the part of Americans. Those populations would just continuously decrease and be absorbed.

    Anecdotally speaking, it seems to me that the children of immigrants from India I’ve known in the workplace tend to outmarry, usually to white. I also don’t get the impression that South Asian kids speak their parents native languages. I expect they (Indians as a group) would be completely assimilated within two or three generations, as is the case with Arab Americans in the Detroit area.

    I met a guy once, in graduate school, with an Indian last name, whose grandfather emigrated to the Sacramento valley during WWI. He was pretty generic European/Caucasoid looking.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @Twinkie
    , @Ed
  90. @Anonymous

    They say it now and then. White-free spaces are now found on many campuses, and some colleges have gone as far as to render their entire institutional settings free of whites–if only for a day or two. So far. Needless to say, Facebook, Google and Twitter (the moral arbiters of the Current Year) have no issue with any of this.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/red-alert-politics/evergreen-state-college-students-host-no-whites-allowed-event-for-second-year-in-a-row-but-at-what-cost

    Just might be affecting the colleges’ bottom line, though, as the fiasco at Mizzou did a couple of years earlier.

  91. Senate Chair Kum-Kum Bhavnani [actual name]

    Kum again?

    Kum-Kum now.

  92. Anon[596] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Shanghai Disneyland reopening procedures:

    https://shcorporate.shanghaidisneyresort.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Press-Release-Shanghai-Disneyland-Reopens-with-Controlled-Capacity-on-May-11.pdf

    — By online reservation only, arrival day and time specified

    — Initial capacity is one-third normal (which means still pretty crowded, I think)

    — Spacing in lines

    — One group per ride car (even in Pirates/Small Word type rides?!)

    — Temperature checks and Chinese “Health QR Code” app with green rating required for Chinese nationals

    — All your data for future contact, including phone, ID numbers (no Korea style fake gay club contact info like “Allan Smithee Kim, 555-5555-5555”)

    — No shows, parades, kiddie play areas, photos with characters, and the like

    — Incessant performative sanitizing by masked cast members, and tanker trucks of hand sanitizer everywhere

    — Masks required for guests except when putting churros and other into mouth

    I don’t see how they are going to manage social distancing in the non-line parts of the park, where people are walking in all directions at once. It’s like trying to stay away from people in a supermarket produce section, but for the entire day. And the ride queues, unless they go through the process of ripping everything apart and redesigning them, still leave you close to the snaking lines on your right and left, despite extra space in front and back.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  93. Anon[596] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    It was a mistake to christen UC Merced explicitly as a Hispanic UC campus. That stigmatized it permanently. They’ll never recover from it.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/19/us/university-california-merced-latino-students.html

    As he walks to class at the University of California, Merced, Freddie Virgen sees a sea of faces in various shades of brown. He is as likely to hear banda corridos blaring out of his classmates’ earphones as hip-hop. With affectionate embraces, he greets fellow members of Hermanos Unidos, a peer support group for Latinos that is one of the largest student organizations on campus.

    Merced lacks the same national reputation for academic excellence as other campuses in the University of California system. It has the highest acceptance rate by far (70 percent compared with 16 percent at U.C.L.A.), and some students across the state do not see it as in the same league as the other campuses. Graduation rates have consistently been lower than at any other campus in the system: 45 percent of freshmen who entered in 2009 had earned a degree four years later, compared with 65 percent at San Diego and 76 percent at Berkeley.

    It’s basically a new Cal State University campus with UC branding.

    • Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.)
    , @JMcG
  94. @Anon

    It also doesn’t sound like much fun.

  95. anon[128] • Disclaimer says:
    @SimpleSong

    Regardless torque goes from engine to transmission to driveshaft so the analogy holds.

    Nope, your whole post is null because a driveshaft may be one or two piece.

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
  96. nebulafox says:
    @PiltdownMan

    A lot of Persians-the original Aryans-ended up immigrating to India during the Mughal period to work as administrators, to the point that when the British arrived, the typical “Indian” Mughal bureaucrat they interacted with was actually Persian. Some did quite well for themselves and ended up intermarrying with well off local women, not too dissimilar from what Chinese traders ended up doing in Vietnam, Thailand, etc.

    The problem is not an inability to assimilate, IMO: though I think some cultures are easier to absorb than others, I don’t think it is impossible for anybody to not assimilate provided they actually want to, and have the skills needed to be “plugged in” to a modern Western society successfully. The issue is that we aren’t giving the system enough time to absorb the numbers we’ve had over the past 30 years, while our irresponsible gerontocracy and their donors demand we grow asymptotically closer to open borders. This is, at the core, not a racial thing: took us decades of next to no immigration to handle the massive influx of Europeans we had before 1924, which was nowhere near as smooth as popular histories portray. There’s a reason American Catholicism has a heavy Protestant, ecumenical tinge to it, as an example.

    (That, and with America’s ongoing structural and economic problems, we really, really just do not need millions more people, period. We need lower rents, not higher rents. The corporate sector need to be tamed, not further indulged. One billion Americans would leave a select few even further enriched, and leave the rest of us much worse off. Americans on the lower end of the socioeconomic strata, in particular, are having a hard time with automation, globalization, and the hollowing out of our social and economic structures as it is. At a time of potentially explosive social alienation, importing tens of millions of new people is not a wise idea, both on economic grounds, and the fact that playing political football with demographics inevitably invites serious backlash. Unlike most commentators here, I’m ultimately a pragmatist on immigration: sometimes you need an influx of new people ASAP. This is not one of those times.)

  97. Thoughts says:

    Steve you didn’t think I’d do it! Took me all of 5 minutes…it was hard work…but….

    I got the list of Doctors who Died in Italy!

    And GUESS WHAT!!!

    The doctors on the List Did Not Die of Corona!!! The association says these doctors died DURING the Covid Crisis not that they died OF Covid

    Check This Out!

    https://portale.fnomceo.it/elenco-dei-medici-caduti-nel-corso-dellepidemia-di-covid-19/

    Il 7 marzo, Chiara Filipponi, anestesista di Portogruaro, deceduta però a causa di una malattia allo stadio terminale.

    So now I shall go through this list and try to find obituaries

    Another thing to know…Doctors don’t retire until age 68-70 in Italy…which would certainly skew the death rates like any Hong Kong, Swine Flu, would do

    • Replies: @Thoughts
  98. @Anon

    Shouldn’t all UC campuses be Hispanic campuses?

    Total Students in Public Schools, 2018-2019 California

    African American 334,652 5.40%
    American Indian 31,358 0.50%
    Asian 573,925 9.30%
    Filipino 149,680 2.40%
    Hispanic or Latino 3,374,921 54.60%
    Pacific Islander 28,085 0.40%
    White not Hispanic 1,417,055 22.90%
    Two or More Races 223,967 3.60%
    None Reported 52,635 0.90%

    Total 6,186,278

    • Replies: @Anon55uu
    , @AnonAnon
  99. @Reg Cæsar

    We don’t, anymore. We used to, AFAIK.

  100. Thoughts says:
    @Thoughts

    This is just my first run through of the first 30 people on the list…I have a life…and need more coffee…

    Italian Doctors on the Covid Death List who did Not Die of Covid:

    Chiara Filipponi – end stage disease

    Doctors who are listed as ‘Retired’ thus making it impossible for them to have gotten Covid as a working doctor…yet are listed as ‘Corona Heroes’:

    Bruna Galavotti- 86 year old Female Psychiatrist


    Doctors Listed as Retired but who got Called into Corona, meaning most likely above the age of 70:

    Doctors in Fields Not likely to have been Exposed to Corona:

    Carlo Zavaritt- Pediatrician – Died at Age 80 of Pneumonia at Pope John XXIII hospital in Bergamo

    Ivano Vezzulli- 61 died of Pneumonia

    Antonio Buonomo – No info found other than he was a medical examiner

    Doctors who did Die of Covid officially or were Announced by a Twitter Friend to have Died of Covid (thus making it not really clear if they actually died of Covid):

    Gino Fasoli- 73 and volunteered to help with Corona…no other info given

    Massimo Borghese – Speech Therapist 63 Twitter Announcement by another doctor Franco Fussi…not an obituary or family announcement

    Giuseppe Finzi- Announced by Openly Proud Twitter Zionist (don’t get mad at me, that’s what he actually wrote on twitter *shrugs*) Michele Borserini that he had died of Covid-19…No other online reference to back that statement up

    Leonardo Marchi – 64 Nursing Home Head

    Ivano Garzena – Dentist although the article states ‘Youngest Doctor to Die’ of what?!?! 48 years old—although looks very unhealthy for 48…I would guess heart attack over Corona…but that’s just me

    Here’s a good one: Vincenza Amato—The Media reports as a Corona Death only Because the name is Listed on the Fnomceo Website —She/He was a Medical Director in charge of UOS Hygiene Public Health of the Department of Hygiene and Health Prevention—
    ————————

    I think with just a few names I’ve already proved my case that the 100 doctors to Die List is a list of Doctors Who Died During the month of March 2020 across all of Italy….not actually people who died of Covid

    In other words, Trump and all of us who saw these headlines from Italy were Mislead.

  101. @SINCERITY.net

    I agree, Sincerity, except for possibly that last sentence. Were we to “let this system burn” due to its ponzi-scheme reliance on big taxpayer-guaranteed loans and foreign money, then it could start over differently (maybe a lot more on-line stuff). Regular white American men could dominate the universities again and not have to learn Chinese.

    As of now the foreigners, most especially Chinese and .Indian, dominate the graduates schools in science, engineering, and computers, but that’s just for the cheap labor. It wasn’t that way before and doesn’t have to stay this way.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  102. @Steve Sailer

    It never was that much fun, waiting in line half the day and riding themed rides that aren’t nearly s scary as rides can get. People go to the Disneylands/worlds because everyone else does, and their kids will not love them anymore if they don’t take them to see The Mouse.

    Wait until the kids are 15 and take them, or let them go themselves, to some of those hard-core amusement parks with the serious roller coasters. We rode the same one 29 times one day, and it was still scary the last time. I can’t take the spinning rides anymore though, or my stomach can’t, I should say.

    • Replies: @Anon
  103. @International Jew

    That may be a good phrase to troll the TradCaths with. Watch their heads explode as they realize the leftists are their best weapon against us evil Proddies!

    • Replies: @RSDB
  104. @82-IQ H1B Indian

    Nothing personal, but I don’t think you have a career in high level management ahead of you. This is what human resources is for.

  105. @vhrm

    I’m amused by the notion that black people might know anything about the geography of the place where they live.

  106. Anon55uu says:
    @XYZ (no Mr.)

    There is an official USG designation as “hispanic serving institution” based on 25% – entitling an institution to more federal money. UCs santa barbara, irvine, santa cruz and riverside also qualify for this. As do 21 CSU campuses.

  107. @nebulafox

    “We need lower rents, not higher rents.”

    Hey, cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks!

    • Thanks: Meretricious
    • Replies: @nebulafox
  108. Twinkie says:
    @PiltdownMan

    Anecdotally speaking, it seems to me that the children of immigrants from India I’ve known in the workplace tend to outmarry, usually to white.

    Not quite. South Asians have some of the lowest outmarriage rates among Asians in America.

    I also don’t get the impression that South Asian kids speak their parents native languages. I expect they (Indians as a group) would be completely assimilated within two or three generations, as is the case with Arab Americans in the Detroit area.

    Again, you have it backwards. Indian immigrants, despite having the advantage of upfront English familiarity, display the lowest assimilation index among major Asian immigrant groups.

    Given that they have the highest average income and education level, yet the lowest assimilation index among Asian immigrants in America, they are the perfect “alien overlord” immigrants. And that’s not even factoring in a very low rate of Christian affiliation and negative cultural traits from the caste system. In so many ways, they are the new Jews, only squared.

    • Replies: @Meretricious
    , @AnotherDad
  109. Anon[596] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I love Tokyo Disney, especially DisneySea, which works really well as a walk-through attraction for adults, even without riding any rides. I hate roller coasters, and several of the Disney rides are beyond my tolerance. We’d ride a few unpopular rides (or a Fast Pass ride or two), eat a couple of meals, see a couple of shows, find a secluded corner to read a book.

    Alas, I may never go there again.

    Maybe you have to get the Disney park fever young. In the 1960s the Anaheim park was only open during daytime hours, but they rented out the park after dark to corporations, and boy was that fun for a boy. As an analogy, I never saw any Star Wars movies until late adulthood, and boy do they seem stupid to me. But others in my age cohort are enchanted by them even as adults.

    It could just be that the U.S. parks now suck, like the way McDonald’s sucks in the U.S., but is clean and pleasant in Japan. The average human capital available for service positions in the U.S. seems to be dropping like a brick.

  110. Ed says:

    The Chinese are going to devour us.

    • Agree: Rob McX
    • Replies: @Rob McX
    , @Ancient Briton
  111. Ed says:
    @PiltdownMan

    My coworker is a 50 year old Indian American born and raised in the South, Tennessee. I don’t think he speaks an Indian language. He has a noticeable Southern accent and culturally assimilated. Still he married an Indian, as did his brother. It was either arranged or heavily suggested that they marry. The wife’s family fled Uganda in the 70s for Canada.

    I think it depends on the family but my experience is that they tend to marry Indians.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    , @anon
  112. @Twinkie

    Clearly, the safest thing would be to send all Asians back to Asia where they belong. And because we’re so nice, we’ll even let them take their diseases with them.

    • Replies: @Anon
  113. @SimpleSong

    NYC has been trying for years, under court supervision, to come up with a firefighter exam where blacks do as well as whites, No luck so far.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  114. JMcG says:
    @82-IQ H1B Indian

    The same way they get them in. By rigging the tests of professional competency. Are there really still people left who don’t understand that we are utterly ruined?

  115. @International Jew

    We live in the period of the Disenlightenment.

  116. JMcG says:
    @Anon

    It’s the first HHCU!

  117. Flip says:
    @XYZ (no Mr.)

    I recommend Teddy Roosevelt. You can never go wrong with Teddy. He also remained vigorous well into advanced age: an excellent model to aspire to.

    He died at 60.

    • Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.)
  118. JMcG says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Disney World is hell to any male over the age of ten.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @J.Ross
  119. Anonymous[432] • Disclaimer says:
    @SINCERITY.net

    American STEM students should prepare to learn Japanese or Chinese for future top Universities.

    Not so sure. Asians don’t have the instinct for knowledge for it’s own sake, like Europeans. They have a good IQ, but not personality traits like openness, to overcome Europeans.

  120. nebulafox says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    The Jews have gotten lazier and stupider over the last half century and are marrying out anyway. Indians are taking their place. I promise you: this will come back to haunt the Left. The rather over-the-top Judeophilia normative among legacy American whites-particularly evangelical Protestants-does not extend to Indians.

    • Agree: J.Ross
  121. nebulafox says:
    @JMcG

    IT’S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL…

    • LOL: JMcG
  122. Anon[592] • Disclaimer says:
    @Meretricious

    Clearly, the safest thing would be to send all Asians back to Asia where they belong. And because we’re so nice, we’ll even let them take their diseases with them.

    Lol

    Surprise as DNA reveals new group of Native Americans: the ancient Beringians

    … Using evolutionary models, the researchers showed that the ancestors of the first Native Americans started to emerge as a distinct population about 35,000 years ago, probably in north-east Asia. About 25,000 years ago, this group mixed and bred with ancient north Eurasians in the region, the descendants of whom went on to become the first Native Americans to settle the New World.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/jan/03/ancient-dna-reveals-previously-unknown-group-of-native-americans-ancient-beringians

  123. @Ed

    The English-language Indian papers have a hefty “Matrimonial” section in the classified ads – when we were there people still read papers although almost everyone seemed to have a smartphone.

    I brought a few home, must dig them out, might be some postworthy material.

  124. @Almost Missouri

    Let it burn.

    Is that a viable strategy?

    Inevitable really, since college’s major source of income, foreign students, has disappeared.

  125. @J.Ross

    one or two friends who will help bury a body if you show up in the dead of night

    Can’t leave those corpses rotting in the fields.

  126. Odin says:

    …University of California President Janet Napolitano is recommending the suspension of the SAT and ACT tests… — a move that could widen access to a UC education for intellectually disadvantaged students.

    Fixed it for her

  127. @pirelli

    Thanks pirelli–terrific pointer. Indeed 100 proof “Magic Dirt/Tragic Dirt”.

    There’s this hard innate refusal of the minoritarians and immigrationists to admit that this is the sort of society–it’s not a nation–that their policies create.

    There’s always some boogey man–“the rich”, “the affluent”, “the suburbs”, “bastions of privilege” who are at fault for the lack of utopia. While the reality is the NYT editorial board is a “bastion of privilege” full with the class of people who run the cities, run the nation and have created–are responsible for–this ugly hash.

    And in the middle of the epidemic demonstrating clearly that American suburbia is utterly superior–more resistant, more robust–to these sorts of attacks and destabilizations, their “solution” is not letting people distance, forcing more people together, more density.

    And the whole tone is thuggish. It’s littered with calls basically for whites who’ve managed to find a little suburban peace to live as whites to be force fed diversity.

    There’s no hint of any American concept like oh … “liberty”. (Words like “self-government”, “democracy”, “federalism”, “republican government” also don’t appear.) It’s not a very American piece … because it isn’t written by actual Americans but just some people who happen to have a US passport. The whole thing reads like “you stupid serfs out there must be told what to do–and what you need is diversity good and hard”.

    And, oh, of course, while prattling on about “America” and “community” search for “immig”–nothing.

    • Agree: Redman
  128. Anonymous[309] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    As of now the foreigners, most especially Chinese and .Indian, dominate the graduates schools in science, engineering, and computers, but that’s just for the cheap labor. It wasn’t that way before and doesn’t have to stay this way.

    In the 1940’s Germans were building LOX/alcohol-fueled, gyroscope and exhaust-vane guided ballistic missiles that were launched from Peenemünde and with little failure striking London.

    In the 1960’s Americans and Russians were orbiting men around the Earth and going to the moon.

    China with over 1.4 billion people was able to send up one man into space for the first time in 2003. India with over 1.3 billion people hopes to be able to send a man into space in 2021.

    But these peoples are the future of brain power. But where would the future of American technological progress be without the great genius of Indian-American engineers, with their levels of arrogance and confidence approaching that of black women??

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  129. In another move, the University of California has announced that it will accept admissions essays in Mandarin Chinese, colloquial Spanish, and African-American Vernacular English. In lieu of bribes, applications in Chinese may be accompanied by a letter describing the size of donation offered.

    Got to allow those full-tuition foreign students a fair shot!

  130. Leo D says:
    @donut

    Then there is the question of the difference between a ‘friend’ and a ‘good friend’…

    A friend will help you move, a good friend will help you move a body…

  131. @vhrm

    vhrm, “Rainy Day Fund” is common practice for all govenment entities. This is money that she hid from the auditors. Lots of articles about it and she also had her staff rewrite reviews from the UC colleges and universities to reflect favorably about her . Read a bit about her, not much to respect in this matter.

    • Agree: Polynikes
    • Replies: @vhrm
  132. Neuday says:
    @XYZ (no Mr.)

    If you’re in California, White, and under 30, you should be loading a U-Haul; there is no future for you there.

    • Replies: @Flip
    , @Gross Terry
  133. @Daniel Williams

    D.W. said:
    C’mon, Steve. If Kum-Kum Bhavnani, John A. Pérez, Cecilia Estolano, Eloy Ortiz Oakley, and Li Cai can’t be trusted to run our big institutions, who can?”

    You missed the elephant in the room, D.W.: Janet Napolitano, the head of the Department of Homeland Security back in 2013 when Steve’s favorite bomb brothers did (whatever they did) something in connection with Boston Marathon bombing that April.

    Napolitano could not (and to this day, dares not) explain why in the world a seemingly obvious oddball with a bizarre travel and WORK history (Tamerlan Tsarnaev) could possibly be allowed to move freely in and out of the USA without ever being questioned or red-flagged!

    Her department, the DHS, was specifically created after 9/11 to prevent these kinds of atrocities.

    Instead, it appears that under Napolitano, the DHS was complicit with the FBI in some kind of deep-cover operation utilizing the elder Tsarnaev before the bombing.

    The cover-up continues to this day, thanks in large part to Deep State assets such as Janet Napolitano.

    (Napolitano’s sparkling career also includes such highlights as her 1991 work as Anita Hill’s attorney, and her work in 1995 as the U.S. District Attorney in Arizona helping to suppress any real investigation into the Michael Fortier role in the Oklahoma City bombing.)

    With her at the helm, what did anyone expect would happen to the U-C system?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/apr/24/boston-bombings

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  134. “In a proposal posted Monday, Napolitano is recommending a complex and unusual five-year plan…”

    Stalin would approve. Or is it more Mao’s Great Leap Forward?

  135. @Twinkie

    Agree with you Twinkie as a general point. Indians are at the bottom of the Asian pile in terms of out-marriage. And the low–near zero–level of Christianity and negative attitudes toward it–not as directly hostile as the Jews, but more foreign to it–are part of that.

    However, Piltdown specifically said “children of immigrants”, not “immigrants”. Indian immigrants almost always marry other Indians. But their children–it’s a roughly 50-50 proposition.

    Out marriage still below other Asian groups, but not exactly tribal. Jews only reached 50% outmarriage after three generations in America. (And that’s likely to stall as the remaining Jews will be the more tribal ones.)

    As is clear across pretty much every social issue/problem in America–the big fix is simply an end to immigration. Stopping the beating, stopping the influx, stopping the further balkanization, stopping the wage suppression, stopping the housing price pressure … and letting Americans breathe again and American identity to gradually congeal and heal.

    • Replies: @megabar
    , @fatmanscoop
  136. @Jim Don Bob

    Jim Don, and a NYC teachers’ exam. Justice Kimba Woods, IIRC, voided two tests because of a lack of diversity. Colleges are now a scam. Graduate lots of people that have no chance of getting a job in their field unless it is for Affirmative Action reasons. And then the teacher, whatever, realizes they are in over their head and the complaints and accusations start. Classic phrasology…”the white schools get all the good teachers.” They should all be good teachers or be gone

  137. megabar says:
    @XYZ (no Mr.)

    > I mean, a country like Belarus is much whiter than America, but it’s not my people or culture

    I would’ve strongly agreed with this 20 years ago. Today, I don’t feel that American culture is my culture.

  138. peterike says:
    @Barnard

    Can we assume the response to the Wuhan Flu will efforts to increase the number of Chinese students in American colleges?

    On the one hand, yes, as many colleges are now desperate for cash flow of any kind. On the other hand, with some 300,000+ Chinese a year already in American colleges (think about that number!), how much more demand is there? Does anyone from China that wants to go to school in America get denied access? It doesn’t seem that way. So demand may already be at peak. But who knows.

  139. megabar says:
    @AnotherDad

    > As is clear across pretty much every social issue/problem in America–the big fix is simply an end to immigration. Stopping the beating, stopping the influx, stopping the further balkanization, stopping the wage suppression, stopping the housing price pressure … and letting Americans breathe again and American identity to gradually congeal and heal.

    This is indeed a good course of action. However, if you are proposing that this will truly fix the issue, I disagree.

    Black folks have been in the US for a long time, and America has not formed a congealed/healed identity that includes both them and whites. Hispanics/Asians might do, but because genetics affects culture and politics, the resulting congealed American identity will not be the same as it was before. Being different isn’t inherently bad (i.e. I suspect the US did indeed change after German/Italian/Polish/Irish immigration), but it isn’t necessarily neutral or good, either. It might be bad, depending on who comes.

  140. 20% are white and of that 20% probably 75% are women or men who identify as women or something else leaving 5% white male of which 90 % are Jewish males.

  141. @Anonymous

    Yep, I agree completely. The American grad schools and the foreign students have an unwritten deal. They’ll pay low money for researchers in Grad Schools by giving them the carrot (usually eaten) of a Green Card. The Americans with families are priced out, while the Chinese and .Indians bring over the in-laws to take care of their American-born anchor kids, or Chinese-/.Indian-born kids* on tourist or other visas of some sorts. The mother-in-law will come for 6 months, and the the mother will swap out for another 6 months, etc.

    In the meantime, the teaching goes to shit, and that’s with tuition at 10X what it was 30-odd years back.

    .

    * who go to the best elementary schools that are around the university areas, so they can have a free English-immersion program paid for by area property owners. Hey, they are reasonably smart – smart enough to take advantage of EVERYTHING they can here. As renters, they will make sure to move in to where the best elementary schools are.

  142. @Paul Jolliffe

    Nah, it’s just that the Bomb Brothers’ Uncle Ruslan is the Energy Minister in Waiting of the CIA’s Republic of Chechnya government in exile. I doubt if DHS gets to overrule the CIA.

    Actually, I think that Uncle Ruslan would be pretty good at the job.

  143. @Achmed E. Newman

    ‘I even had some young punks walk down the big hall and mutter something about “… what kind of role model…”. If I’d have more time for a comeback’

    Same here: my wits fail me under pressure, so I think up stuff aforehand. Ooga booga! is my favorite in such situations, and I have been exclaiming ‘diaper up!’ as well. Always with a smile and good humor – because this hoax is funny.

    And those young punks can’t do anything to you because right after ‘Thou shalt at all time veil thineself in a face diaper’ is their second holiest commandment of ‘Thou shalt observe a safespace of six cubits at all time unto the even.’ You can say anything and They. Can’t. Touch. You.

    #mouthdiaper 🇺🇸

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  144. Anon[200] • Disclaimer says:

    The six universities that receive the most applications in the nation are UC campuses in Los Angeles, San Diego, Irvine, Berkeley, Santa Barbara and Davis. Last year, the UC system received 215,000 undergraduate applications.

    This is way off. Here are the applications for each of the 9 campuses this year:
    https://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/campuses-majors/berkeley/

    Berkeley: 87,393
    Davis: 78,092
    Irvine: 95,566
    UCLA: 111,306
    Merced: 25,417
    Riverside: 49,509
    UCSD: 99,125
    UCSB: 93,442
    Santa Cruz: 55,868

    Total: 695,718

    UCLA has the lowest admit rate: 12.4%, followed by UCB at 16.4%. Both have ACT range: 30-35, SAT range: 680-790M.

    The easiest to get into is UC Merced(newest): 72.6%. ACT range 18-25, SAT range 510-660M. Needless to say, this campus has the most “under represented minorities”.

    In other words, Napolitano wants to turn every UC campus into UC Merced.

  145. Flip says:
    @Neuday

    If you’re in California, White, and under 30, you should be loading a U-Haul; there is no future for you there.

    Boise is booming. White flight on a continental level.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    , @anon
  146. @Mike Tre

    You really have no idea how much of the trades in CA is dominated by Mexicans. The smarter ones become licensed contractors and hire illegals or lower-tier Hispanics to do the work. The remaining white tradesmen in CA are largely Slavic… at least in my area. Blacks? Forget it. If they want to work in trades they move to the South.

    Remember a key organizing principle for humanity: nepotism reigns supreme. This applies to every area of life, most especially in business and work.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  147. @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    I realize that you are a biological superman who is immune to the virus and can just laugh the virus off. But, since you don’t seem to have been able to grasp this logic, the point of wearing a mask is not to protect your, who obviously don’t need protection, but to protect your inferiors who are weak and old and sickly and would appreciate your Supermanness not laughing directly upon them. But that’s called courtesy and gentlemanliness, concepts which you don’t appear to be familiar with.

  148. Flip says:

    This reminds me of City University of New York (CUNY) which went from a somewhat intellectually rigorous place due to upwardly mobile working class Jews to open admissions.

  149. @moshe

    As Pirkei Avos says: “Running from Covid only makes Covid run after you”.

    First class!

    • Thanks: moshe
  150. @vhrm

    And even that doesn’t tell the whole story since there’s also the Community College system from which you can transfer to a State or UC if you can maintain a reasonable GPA without ever taking an SAT or ACT right now.

    You’d think more people would take advantage of that. We know a student who’s trying to transfer, as a Junior, from a CC to UC Davis. no debt so far, good enough grades, and has taken all the right classes. (we’ll see if it works out). He says there’s very few of his classmates who are actually able to do this. It turns out, if you’re on the ball enough to jump through the hoops at a CC plus have a good SAT, you were able to just get into a UC in the first place. The sorting takes place pretty early in the game.

  151. There’e nothing wrong in principle with rich dumb kids being admitted to elite schools. There should be a price at which the school is happy to admit them. Education is not fixed in supply. Suppose we charge kids dumb as rocks $1mil per year. They’ll take one seat and create five more.

    The problem comes from the pervasive idea that educators must cater to students: that their role is not to present a fixed curriculum at a fixed level of sophistication to students who will often struggle to comprehend, but rather to premasticate to spec and spoon feed the resultant gray gruel to heavy-lidded, diddling “e-athletes.”

    A friend told me that when he was young the U of Iceland had open admissions, giant freshmen courses with basically no personal attention from lecturers, 90% freshmen failure rates, and small-sized quality classes from then on. That there’s a model. If they fail enough students, I can even see the argument for public funding.

    • Replies: @black sea
    , @Old Palo Altan
  152. @anon

    OK you got me there 🙂

  153. @Flip

    Boise is booming. White flight on a continental level.

    Alas, poor Idaho. On the “personnel is policy” principle, gun control will be coming to Idaho in a decade or so.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Alfa158
  154. nymom says:

    If they go to online college courses isn’t it limitless how many people they can accept…

    Maybe that is the way to solve the problem, for now anyway.

  155. MarkinLA says:

    If the goal is to get more money, getting rid of the SAT is the last thing to do. It will result in far more blacks and Hispanics (who are likely on financial aid) getting in. The rich overseas Asian will always find a way to get in since cheating is not considered a vice there.

  156. neprof says:
    @Anon

    Great movie with a terrible ending. Why did Burton’s character climb the wall first? He should have know the young lady was the remaining loose end.

  157. black sea says:
    @Alan Mercer

    People aren’t paying for their kids to be admitted to an elite school; they’re paying for them to be graduated from an elite school. Generally, they aren’t much interested in what their kids learn there.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    , @Alan Mercer
  158. Barnard says:
    @black sea

    Right, they are paying for the credential and the marketing opportunities having it creates. The educational content is of no importance to most students or their parents.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  159. Arclight says:

    I go back and forth on this. On the one hand, it’s a blatant attempt to circumvent affirmative action prohibitions and to cover up the abysmal academic quality of students admitted under the guise of diversity.

    On the other hand, once loose in the wild (ie the workforce) things generally still sort themselves out, where obviously talented/productive people get ahead and those less so hit their ceiling early and stay there or are gotten rid of when times get rough. Obviously the areas most likely to still retain unqualified people are government and NFPs, but it’s always been that way.

    The upshot is that a generation from now, we’ll still have agonized academics and pundits asking why various industries’ workforce doesn’t look like the population at large.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  160. @anon

    I guess if anybody knows about creating a more livable planet, it would be an ethnic Indian.

    Flush toilets are a racist social construct you bigot.

    Indians invented the water closet thousands of years ago.

    The history of toilets in India is as old as the Indus Valley Civilization, which had grown in and around Harappa and Mahenjodaro. The archaeological remains of the Indus Valley Civilization bear evidence to the use of water-borne toilets by the Harappan people living at Lothal, which is only 62 km from Ahmedabad. Each house in Harappa had a private toilet with link to the covered drains outside. The architects of the Indus Valley were in the know of sanitary engineering science, which got buried in the grave of the Indus Valley Civilization, thereby leading to the practice of open defecation.

    Amazing Facts from Historic Journey of Toilets from Indus Valley Civilization to Modern India

    As with Buddhism, it’s been slow to catch on in its native land, despite its popularity abroad.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Alden
  161. GU says:
    @Mike Tre

    $100k by 30 is pretty abysmal. Maybe if you live in the sticks it works (nothing wrong with living in the sticks BTW).

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  162. @Arclight

    “The upshot is that a generation from now, we’ll still have agonized academics and pundits asking why various industries’ workforce doesn’t look like the population at large.”

    Indeed, that’s what it has been like for the 48 years I’ve been following this debate.

  163. Rob McX says:
    @Ed

    The Chinese are going to devour us.

    With the help of fifth columnists like Li Cai.

  164. res says:
    @Anon

    Thanks. Here is a link to an article talking about the response to the report:
    https://edsource.org/2020/uc-report-upholds-test-scores-in-admissions-while-critics-pledge-to-fight-on/623299

    And the 228 page report itself:
    https://senate.universityofcalifornia.edu/_files/underreview/sttf-report.pdf

    Here is another article which references some research from Saul Geiser (appears to be a primary anti-SAT advocate):
    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-19/uc-admissions-sat-act-new-paper-bolsters-idea-of-dropping-tests

    His paper:
    https://cshe.berkeley.edu/publications/satact-scores-high-school-gpa-and-problem-omitted-variable-bias-why-uc-taskforce%E2%80%99s

    Abstract:

    One of the major claims of the report of University of California’s Task Force on Standardized Testing is that SAT and ACT scores are superior to high-school grades in predicting how students will perform at UC. This finding has been widely reported in the news media and cited in several editorials favoring UC’s continued use of SAT/ACT scores in university admissions. But the claim is spurious, the statistical artifact of a classic methodological error: omitted variable bias. Compared to high-school grades, SAT/ACT scores are much more strongly correlated with student demographics like family income, parental education, and race/ethnicity. As a result, when researchers omit student demographics in their prediction models, the predictive value of the tests is artificially inflated. When student demographics are included in the model, the findings are reversed: High-school grades in college-preparatory courses are actually the stronger predictor of UC student outcomes. The Task Force should go back to the drawing board and provide the UC community with more realistic estimates of the true value-added by the tests.

    It’s an intriguing question in data interpretation. What I find interesting is looking at Tables 1-4 in Appendix II of the STTF Report. Those show HSGPA and SAT versus each other and combined as predictors of UC freshman grades and graduation GPAs across demographic groups.

    It turns out HSGPA is a better predictor than SAT for whites and those making over $120K. Not so much the other categories. That makes me question Geiser’s analysis. Adding correlated variables to a regression is not always the best thing to do.

    • Replies: @vhrm
  165. Anon[314] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    He’s being obnoxious, but arguably he is on to something.

    Say, for the sake for argument, that you think the lockdown has become a net negative and needs to be ended. Given that assumption, there are two views you could have on masks:

    1. Masks are good, because they provide some measure of protection without preventing people from carrying out normal activities. We should promote mask use in exchange for going back to normal otherwise.

    2. Masks are a symbol of the overall freakout that’s harming society on net. They signal danger and scare people. As long as people remain scared, they’ll support the restrictive measures that need to be removed. Therefore we shouldn’t be promoting mask use. In other words, masks are to lockdown supporters as rainbow flags are to the LGBTQ crowd. Nothing wrong with rainbow flags per se, but if you’re a devout evangelical Christian, you know they augur nothing good for your worldview.

  166. @nebulafox

    The problem is not an inability to assimilate, IMO: though I think some cultures are easier to absorb than others, I don’t think it is impossible for anybody to not assimilate provided they actually want to, and have the skills needed to be “plugged in” to a modern Western society successfully.

    nebulafox, i think your comment here is on target.

    But the bolded bit–the HBD issue–is critical. Assimilation is not a given. America hasn’t been able to assimilate its “legacy of slavery” population group in 150+ years.

    The issue is that we aren’t giving the system enough time to absorb the numbers we’ve had over the past 30 years, while our irresponsible gerontocracy and their donors demand we grow asymptotically closer to open borders.

    This is the core of the issue. Immigration *must* stop.

    Stop immigration, stop minoritarianism and restore the primacy of America’s core founding Anglo-Protestant culture–i.e. actually have a nation again–and i think assimilating the Asians the commenters are discussing here is straightforward. They live in the same neighborhoods, go to the same schools and colleges and work in the same jobs. In a few generations they will almost all have married out. If minoritarianism is killed off and the nation’s white gentile core is dominant again they will actually *want* to assimilate and be American.

    Stopping immigration and killing off minoritarianism–a joint project, they reinforce each other–is the critical–the only–issue.

    • Replies: @Arclight
  167. anon[852] • Disclaimer says:
    @Flip

    Boise is booming.

    Boise is too big already. It is swallowing Caldwell and Nampa, and the farmland between is going-gone. Californication is ongoing.

    White flight on a continental level.

    Globalhomo is a gift that keeps on giving, with trickledown effects that find everyone eventually.

  168. @kaganovitch

    Boise is booming. White flight on a continental level.

    Alas, poor Idaho. On the “personnel is policy” principle, gun control will be coming to Idaho in a decade or so.

    It’s been a tad slow reaching Vermont the last fifty years. Gun control in America is mostly POC control. Which is why it was pioneered in the South.

    Not just guns:

    Although many jurisdictions worldwide have knife legislation regulating the length of a blade or the dagger-like profile of the Arkansas toothpick that can be owned or carried, certain locales in the United States have legislation mentioning the “Arkansas toothpick” in particular. These laws were passed in the late 1830s in Alabama, Tennessee, and Georgia as an attempt to prevent dueling.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkansas_toothpick

  169. @Anon

    No, the shortage of masks is the epitome of the disastrousness of globalization. The anti-mask nationalist morons are playing into the hands of the globalists, who ought to be back on their heels at this point.

  170. Anon[200] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    All of America’s higher ed problems can be summed up in 4 neat little words:

    Too Many Damn Asians.

    The only way to fix this is to end all Asian immigration, stop granting all visas to Asians including F1 student visas, work visas, investor visas, green cards, citizenship, and to repatriate all current and former Chinese & Indian citizens to their motherland, regardless of what other citizenship they hold.

    And just like that, all our higher ed problems will go away overnight.

    Even the progressive lunacy will die off because they will no longer have large number of international students to pay for their largess.

  171. @black sea

    They are indeed paying for admission, with the expectation that it will lead to graduation. This is to my point. The gross system would be improved if admission did not give a reasonable expectation of graduation.

    • Replies: @black sea
  172. fish says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    The Asians will go nuts over this.

    Oh well….sucks to be you……and us!

  173. @Flip

    Some of us consider that advanced age…. He was pretty active til past his mid 50s, better than most.

    • Replies: @Muggles
  174. The Asians will go nuts over this.

    Oh well….sucks to be you……and us!

    Some of the impetus for ditching the SAT is probably due to the Harvard litigation, which gave the green light to excluding high-SAT Asians on the ground they have deficient “personalities.”

    The politicians want to make the UC student body look like their constituents, er, I mean, “look like California.” That means a lot less Asians and a lot more Hispanics and Blacks. At 20%, Whites are currently at about the same quota level as they would get based on the school age population.

    Administratively rigging the admission system is a stealth work-around to avoid repealing Prop 209 outright. They tried that a few years ago and the Asian constituents rebelled big time. College admissions and property values in their neighborhoods are the only two issues Asians in California care about. But if you cross them on one of those, watch out.

    If what’s left of the California Republican Party were smart (which it totally isn’t), they would exploit this as a wedge issue against the Dems’ multi-culti coalition (which is based on So. Cal. Hispanic votes controlled by elite No. Cal. Blacks and Whites).

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  175. @Neuday

    If you are white and live outside of California, you should be thinking about enacting a temporary (peremenant) quarantine on the Californian tumor.

  176. black sea says:
    @Alan Mercer

    Yes, but very difficult to sustain in practice.

    At the end of the day, universities operate something like factories. “Raw materials” come in one end, and “finished products” emerge at the other. A 30% attrition rate makes that model unfeasible unless all of the stakeholders maintain a consensus in support of it. But that’s unlikely. The pressures — political, parental, and economic — make it so.

  177. anon[852] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    He’s being obnoxious, but arguably he is on to something.

    He’s obnoxious and repetitive, adding nothing and taking up space.

    Say, for the sake for argument, that you think the lockdown has become a net negative and needs to be ended.

    So the way to end shelter-in-place is to come to this blog and complain in an obnxious & insulting fashion in the comment boxes. Because complaining in comment boxes is the only way to get any change in the government, am I right?

    Do you see how stupid this is?

    It’s retarded. Like chalking the sidewalk outside the student union and expecting big changes in uni policy. Only more retarded, because nobody with authority (Gav, Cuomo, etc.) wastes time reading comboxes. So it’s more like chalking the driveway at your parents house and expecting the governor to drop by, read it and heed it.

    This situation has reduced some commenters to the mental state of mid school girls. Others have devolved to “No! I WANT” toddlerhood.

    Sad!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  178. Redman says:
    @moshe

    >”Reporting by Vishwadha Chander in Bengaluru”

    Maybe this isn’t OT after all. More jobs native Americans just won’t do.

  179. anon[852] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    It’s been a tad slow reaching Vermont the last fifty years.

    You are wrong. Again.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  180. @PiltdownMan

    The University of California maintains a handy, publicly searchable database of employee salaries.

    https://ucannualwage.ucop.edu/wage/

    How can Janet Napolitano make ends meet on a mere $578,916.00 per year?

    • Replies: @Farenheit
    , @PiltdownMan
  181. @AnotherDad

    Agree with you Twinkie as a general point. Indians are at the bottom of the Asian pile in terms of out-marriage.

    Seems a very different experience compared to Britain. Anecdotally, Indian Hindus seem quite likely to marry out, comparatively quick to assimilate (and have caucasian-type features so that this can happen quite easily). Indian Hindus here are often anti- further immigration I think. Compare this to Pakistani/Bangladeshi Muslims, where assimilation is much less possible and inter-marriage is very rare, and who milk the “anti-racism” religion for invasion purposes.

    Alternatively it could be that Hindus just go under the radar here, as right-wingers are much more likely to focus on Muslims, blacks and Jews.

    • Replies: @Smithsonian_6
  182. @Daniel Williams

    A wretched hive of scum and villany, said someone from a more respectable galaxy.

  183. @Anon

    Good comment, #314.

    I pick #2. The wife just got sad enough about my attitude that now I’m gonna have to wear one (for the first damn time) due to this: It’s either lie to her about it, keep telling the truth and have her in tears part of the time I’m home (she’s just very worried about all of us, IMO for no reason, but she means well for all of us), or wear it. Not lying to her has caused her a lot of pain, but I’ll stick with that and put on a mask at certain times. This thing better be done soon!

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Liberty Mike
  184. @anon

    You are wrong. Again.

    Why do you keep changing your “anon” number? For the same reason you keep announcing “You are wrong” while withholding evidence that would help other readers decide? This is the behavior of a troll.

    Please give us the relevant statutes and their dates of passage. Is Steve’s California concealed carry permit valid in Vermont? Simple enough question– for an honest commenter.

    • Replies: @RSDB
    , @anon
  185. @anon

    No, the way to end it is to disobey. They cannot and will not arrest half the population. You are doing nothing to help yourself. Maybe you are scared shitless, so this is quite logical for you.

    If that is not the case, well, you will not get change at the voting booth. We all should have realized that by now, with Exhibit A being President Donald Trump.

    I’m guessing Mr. “I am Omar Marteen” (the “Marteen” of whom I personally don’t have a clue about) is likely blowing off much of this bullshit like I’ve been, or I sure hope so. That is the true American way. Do you think it was legal to board a private vessel dressed as Indians and throw precious cargo into Boston harbor?

    Disobedience with a bit of courage is what we need here. Mr. … Marteen can speak up for himself on that. I’d like to hear from him on what he’s been doing in general.

  186. @XYZ (no Mr.)

    Winston’s mother was American, just like the All-Amercan Barry Soetro Obama whatever.

    • Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.)
  187. @Steve Sailer

    Yes, our inability to manufacture critical supplies and the embarrassing ignorance of our globalist business and technical elite are large advantages in the nationalists favor. And any arguments about lockdowns in general are stupid.

    The arguments should be whether lockdowns are needed when proper masks and social distancing are used indoors, and social distancing used outdoors. That is a wedge issue which is indeed being played out nationally. A state like Georgia reopened businesses a while ago. People are not dropping like flies, but Kemp is unpopular. Some of that may be based on genuine policy, some I have no doubt because of ceaseless Wuhan virus failure porn from the media.

    Nationalists — and I use that work equivalently to patriots, just like the left does — should probably start with baby steps and harp on a few key issues.

    1) People are hurting for work, and lockdowns are no longer necessary (meaning to keep the medical system from being overwhelmed) when masks and social distancing are used indoors.

    2) Some people will abuse this and ignore safety, just like they always have done with alcohol, drugs, driving, and guns. We cannot shut down society because a minority of residents won’t obey the law. This type of attitude is much more deadly than any virus.

    3) Lockdowns didn’t save a lot of people from dying in nursing homes, so that one-size-fits-all policies are failures.

    4) If America actually made critical items here, we could have potentially had no lockdowns, or much shorter lockdowns, as we had plenty of masks and could immediately go into social distancing protocols. The next time someone praises cheap items from China, remind them we’re going to end up adding two to four trillion dollars to the real cost of all those products. Not a very good deal.

  188. @Steve Sailer

    No, the shortage of masks is the epitome of the disastrousness of globalization.

    That’s true.

    The anti-mask nationalist morons are playing into the hands of the globalists, who ought to be back on their heels at this point.

    There’s plenty the Globalists OUGHT TO be back on their heels about at this point, but do you think they give a crap, Steve? They are not ashamed, as they don’t care about American people any more than anyone else.

    I don’t believe in pushing a false narrative (at least what I think is, that wearing masks is cat’s meow right now), as part of any strategy to “show them”. I have no personal shortage of masks, and I’m, in fact, accumulating ones that my wife has given me here and there (but I didn’t lie to her, which is important to me, and more important to her than she knows now and then the Kung Flu itself).

    By not wearing the masks, especially away from people and in wide-open outdoor spaces, I am being a role model – not the role model some young punkass government suck-ups think I am not, but a role model nonetheless. I am a role model in the cause of perspective.

    From that post, I’ll leave you with a quote from comment Digital Samizdat who here: If this were a real plague, do you think we would all still be arguing about whether or not it was a real plague two months on?

  189. Arclight says:
    @AnotherDad

    Agreed – we once had a confident culture in which the majority believed it had the right values and practices for success and it was the benchmark that newer arrivals and existing minority populations aspired to. Once we decided the majority had no right to assert its values – or indeed, they were the wrong values altogether – it gave space to minority groups and the newer waves of immigrants to ignore our previous social conventions.

    I don’t think it’s an accident that the 60s marked the beginning of a very steep decline in black American cultural behavior that has had disastrous consequences. Similarly, we have the curious situation in which many first generation Americans from non-European nations have the gall to complain that the US doesn’t live up to their expectations, ignoring the dysfunctional and more repressive societies their parents left behind. Politicians have deliberately exacerbated this by keeping the floodgates open to more immigrants to keep the culture off balance and from the majority’s values once again becoming the benchmark. Frankly, we may be past the tipping point where this can be rectified.

    • Replies: @Inverness
  190. J.Ross says:
    @JMcG

    I was almost worried about how much I intensely disliked every Disney park given how everyone else loves them, but looking for good reading material for young relatives I have come to love old Disney magazines, books, and encyclopedias (from, say, the sixties). They are often available cheap and totally blow out of the water anything being produced today or in the past twenty years. You really see the decline in popular intelligence.

  191. J.Ross says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    As I was surprised to discover when I tried to buy a monadnock, Michigan prohibits batons, some of which were invented and marketed as a non-lethal alternative to guns.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  192. anon[852] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    It’s gonna be like “the ribbon” back in the 90’s.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  193. @Ancient Briton

    I know all about Winston Churchill. But since I think culture matters more than ethnicity the fact he had an American mother means nothing to me. He’s a foreigner in my neck of the woods. He was British; English born; English educated; an officer in the British Army (something George Washington could never pull off….), and a loyal servant of the Empire. Good for him. But not part of my history or my land, regardless of sharing white blood.

    As for Obama, he was born here, and outside of 4 years overseas, grew up in America, with white American grandparents. The fact he honestly appears to dislike the majority of Americans — especially in the hinterlands — doesn’t make him especially foreign at all, sadly. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have even poorer attitudes, and they are 100 percent home grown. And their attitudes are not unique.

    • Replies: @Ancient Briton
  194. @Steve Sailer

    Shanghai Disneyland reopening

    It also doesn’t sound like much fun.

    A ride based on getting shanghaied has possibilities. As does Pirates of the Straits of Malacca.

  195. @Hypnotoad666

    College admissions and property values in their neighborhoods are the only two issues Asians in California care about. But if you cross them on one of those, watch out.

    If, by some miracle, they got Asians voting like blacks, except for the GOP, CA could become a red state again. Asians are now estimated at 15.3% of the CA population.

    https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/CA

    • Replies: @82-IQ H1B Indian
  196. @Ed

    Takeout or Buffet?

    • LOL: Ed
  197. vhrm says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    I stand by my original statement.

    I don’t like her for all the woke BS she’s obviously perpetrating, but in that particular dust-up i’m with UC.

    The legislators “hate” that UC has some independence in California and protection of its funding in the Constitution and that they can’t fleece it at will.

    My impression is that, as bad as things are with Napolitano, they’re a heck of a lot better than they would be if she (or someone) wasn’t there fighting back.

    Here’s a decent article about the $175m that goes a little into the many places where that money was etc.
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/education/article/Closer-look-at-175-million-UC-hid-from-the-public-11144359.php

    I don’t know THAT much about the story, and it’s somewhat convoluted, but i looked into it some when it was happening and this was the impression i was left with. If you have pointers to some compelling analysis I’d be curious to see it.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  198. RSDB says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    When I used to post as anon the numbers would change every once in a while; I suppose it has to do with the hashing algorithm.

    Since, I think, it’s based on IP, posting from a different device will also change them.

  199. Anon[200] • Disclaimer says:
    @nebulafox

    That goes against the plan of the Jews. Wherever they washed up, Jews are always the one group that refuses to assimilate. But that also makes them targets for the past 2,000 years. They’ve learned from their mistakes. Open borders or at least a large, steady stream of newcomers will help ensure these groups never assimilate. When every group is an out group, Jews will no longer be the only out group. As they tell one another, even in the NYT, “multicultrual countries are safer for Jews”.

    But they sort of miscalculated with the Asians. They are ambitious and upwardly mobile, and are itching to take over all the top universities from the Jews. Having fought hard to reach the top of the social strata in America, Jews have zero intention of giving up their perch or even to accommodate these Asian upstarts. The Asians need to know their place, period. The best way to keep them in their place is to control access to the elite universities, just like how the WASPs once used these universities to keep the Jews in their place, now the Jews are doing the same to the Asians. Whoever controls Harvard controls the country, as Harvard is the gateway to Wall Street, DC, the media, academia, the Judiciary, corporate C-suites, the Jews know it.

    If SAT scores become optional, UCs will simply go the way of the Ivy League, using holistic admission to weed out Asians. UCB is now 43% Asian, 21% white, 15% Hispanic, 3% black, 13% Int’l. Once it becomes holistic, it’ll go to 20% Asian, 30% white, 20% Hispanic, 15% black, 15% Int’l like most of the Ivies. Public universities love to replace US born Asians with International Asians because the latter pay 3x more tuition, and you see the same faces, get the same academic results.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  200. RSDB says:
    @Redneck farmer

    The Protestant Reformation is separate from the Enlightenment; neither of them are particularly congenial to “trad Catholics” but at least the Enlightenment led to Catholic Emancipation in 1830.

  201. @fatmanscoop

    Indian Hindus here are often anti- further immigration I think. Compare this to Pakistani/Bangladeshi Muslims, where assimilation is much less possible and inter-marriage is very rare, and who milk the “anti-racism” religion for invasion purposes.

    Indians in the UK tend to be from high castes, especially those who came after getting chucked out of Uganda.
    Pakistani Muslim immigrants come from a relatively small area of rural Pakistan and they are considered to be yokels by other, urbanised Pakistanis.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Alden
  202. vhrm says:
    @res

    But the claim is spurious, the statistical artifact of a classic methodological error: omitted variable bias. Compared to high-school grades, SAT/ACT scores are much more strongly correlated with student demographics like family income, parental education, and race/ethnicity.

    Adding correlated variables to a regression is not always the best thing to do.

    Let’s postulate a single hidden attribute of the individual. Let’s call it “g”, for lack of a better letter, and see how it correlates with performance on these tests and in classes and maybe ethnicity and family income…

    Seriously though, it probably takes significant effort and talent to be a statistician on student performance issues and continue to Not Notice. Like you’d have to actively suppress your understanding each time you do an analysis or write a paper.

    • Agree: res
  203. Old Prude says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Love you 😘 Steve, but I’m with Juicy Omar here. Diaper up! This hoax is a catastrophe. Let’s talk in July when the roof has caved in.

  204. anonymous[105] • Disclaimer says:
    @XYZ (no Mr.)

    For too long state universities have aped their private research university counterparts and forgotten their core mandates: to educate and train citizens.

    Except California intentionally set up two systems, the Cal States for educating and training citizens, and the UCs for being world-leading research institutions. The distinction was muddled with UC Riverside and then Merced, but it was a good idea.

    Keeping the UCs elite while California education as a whole went to crap was theoretically possible under this model, and would have been consistent with their mission, although that’s not what happened obviously.

    • Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.)
  205. Farenheit says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson Three

    ‘The University of California maintains a handy, publicly searchable database of employee salaries.

    How can Janet Napolitano make ends meet on a mere $578,916.00 per year?”

    Very simple my good man…box wine!!😂

  206. anon[225] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ed

    If he is from TN, isn’t it natural for him to be against miscegenation? If he is 50 year old, that is what he has seen all his life there – like marries like (racially/ethnically). I think interracial marriage is pretty low out in TN even now. In fact, it is fairly rare outside of large coastal States.

  207. @International Jew

    Counter-Enlightenment was a serious stuff: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Enlightenment (Rousseau, Hamann, de Maistre, ..)

    This is Endarkenment.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  208. @Johann Ricke

    Asians are now estimated at 15.3% of the CA population.

    But how many of them are eligible to vote? I recently filled 2020 census online, since the mail I received said it is mandatory. I was surprised that there was no question asking whether I am an American citizen or not. I am sure I am not the only one on visa. So how many of the 15.3% are voters?

    • Replies: @peterike
    , @Anon
  209. @XYZ (no Mr.)

    JFK conferred honary US citizenship on WSC 4/9/1963.

  210. Alfa158 says:
    @kaganovitch

    Yes, unfortunately the people fleeing to Idaho aren’t just White conservatives getting away from California. They include non-Whites looking for work and White liberals escaping the consequences of their politics and recreating what they are escaping from in their new home,
    Just 4% of Californians would double the population of Idaho and turn it Blue. It already happened to New England, Oregon, Washington state and most of the sandlot states.
    Washington is in the process of passing laws restricting right to carry.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  211. @Anon

    just like how the WASPs once used these universities to keep the Jews in their place

    WASPs originally used these universities to keep young WASPs in their place- i.e., the churches that founded them.

    Secular Cornell University was quite the oddity among private institutions at its founding in 1865. Methodist Cornell College, several years older, was the rule.

  212. @vhrm

    vhrm, what’s not to like about a man or woman of conviction. Now may I suggest that you read more than one article about Napalitano’s $175 million nest egg or slush fund. Read where she had her staff modify reports from the UC system that were critical of her.

    • Replies: @vhrm
  213. Mike Tre says:
    @stillCARealist

    California is not representative of the entire country. In Illinois the only trade Mexicans dominate are the laborer trades. Electricians, welders, pipe fitters, millwrights, etc, all still majority white. You’re correct about blacks though, the only trade they get near is the teamsters. Trade schools are not driven by nepotism in any way that I have seen or heard and union halls assign work by seniority.

  214. Mike Tre says:
    @GU

    100k is only abysmal if one must support a cocaine habit as big as yours appears to be.

  215. @anon

    Yep, but really, I don’t mind at all what anyone thinks of my flouting this panic-fest, besides someone who can get me in trouble, and people at home who are worried sick. I especially would like to see those two Seinfeld fags, as don’t you just want to kick that Chicano one’s ass?

    (That pair were in at least one other episode I liked, in which they took the big dresser from Kramer, who was keeping it on the street for Elaine)

  216. vhrm says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Your opinion of her is noted, thanks.

  217. @anonymous

    California did not intentionally set up two systems.
    Many of the original Cal State campuses (such as San Jose) started as normal schools focused — as the name implies — exclusively on educating future primary, and then later on, secondary education teachers, and not on general university education.

    Anyone wanting to be a mining engineer or civil engineer or study history went to a UC campus. So there was never the division you speak of at the beginning between research and the duty to educate citizens (or residents). The University of California was born in 1868 as a land-grant university (directly from the Morrill Act of 1862). It was not intended to be a university to serve the global community.

    By the 1930s some normal schools wanted to broaden educational fields of study, and just became general colleges. These formed the later nucleus of the Cal State system.

    California’s Master Plan in the 1960s did separate the UC system into a more research oriented direction, and academically more selective, and Cal State system as more teaching focused. That may be what you are referring to.

    There is no indication in the Master Plan that the proponents would ever have envisioned a case where there would be more foreign students — not just out of state, but foreign — on certain UC campuses than students from the largest (by quite a margin) student demographic in the state. That is the case with California’s Hispanic students. So I actually don’t think the UC system is fulfilling its mission, either original, or modified.

    • Agree: Alden
  218. Anonymous[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Indians invented the water closet thousands of years ago.

    The history of toilets in India is as old as the Indus Valley Civilization, which had grown in and around Harappa and Mahenjodaro.

    Mohenjo-Daro is in Sindh in Pakistan. Harappa is in the Punjab, also in Pakistan.

    • Troll: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  219. Anon[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @Smithsonian_6

    Indians in the UK tend to be from high castes,

    I don’t know about that. Ever seen the movie Bend It Like Beckham? The Indians in that movie all look pretty ghetto to me, even with the cockney accent.

  220. Anonymous[407] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    So ? Pakistan was only recently foundend, because of the now dominant muslin population. That place was Hindu before muslin expantion. BTW, the genetics of that ancient civilization, indicates that they were somewhat similar to modern Indians:
    http://www.sci-news.com/genetics/harappan-genome-07575.html

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  221. @Charles Erwin Wilson Three

    There are 489 employees in the UC system who make more money in gross pay than Janet Napolitano. Most appear to be medical school professors. A few are sports coaches.

  222. @Reg Cæsar

    It’s been a tad slow reaching Vermont the last fifty years.

    Alas, there have been some recent developments…

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/beto-pledges-to-sharpton-to-pass-reparations-bill/#comment-3141992 (#270)

  223. @Steve Sailer

    I spare decrepit grayballs like yourself, Sailer – I’ve made that clear. Facediaper-induced hypoxia is compromising your brain function and your reading comprehension.

    Democratic governors have taken us hostage. A government that forbids men from earning a living is not legitimate. This is a war – and we must fight.

    CoronaHoax.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Liberty Mike
    , @Anon
  224. International Jew [AKA "Hebrew National"] says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Reputations. Also lawns, web sites, US News ratings gaming, and sportsball.

    But as you say, accumulated reputations built before wokeness and before hypertrophied DIE bureaucracies. In fact it’s pretty remarkable that institutions that hold themselves out as some kind of intellectual vanguard, are deeply conservative in that the prestige pecking order is so stable over time.

  225. International Jew [AKA "Hebrew National"] says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Thanks. I didn’t know counterenlightenment was already taken.

  226. I don’t think people should waste too much time trying to read tea leaves about why UC system is using Covid19 to nix SATs now. I’m sure having rich stupid kids pay full freight is fine, but really they’re just doing exactly what all of the left and all of Globo-Shlomo is doing right now: using the lockdown as an excuse to get their Christmas list of zany leftist nightmare-dreams. Look at Pelosi/Dems new financial bill, just a leftist’s letter to Santa: yes, America, the best direct response to the crisis is to lock in permanent Congressionally-mandated vote fraud by mail. Srsly, it’s for the best.

    As some on the right have noticed, the actual technical reasons for the lockdown keep changing, but the policy stays the same. The real leftist policy is: the lockdown must continue until Trump is defeated and the Deplorables have exhausted their savings and gone bankrupt.

    Think of how much faster this scam has been moving than the Climate Change nonsense. They’ve gotten more of their wish list in three months than twenty years of Al Gore and Greta Thunberg. They all must just be kicking themselves, thinking, Why didn’t we think of this before?

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @AKAHorace
  227. Alden says:
    @216

    The last conservative professor probably retired in 1950. Class of 1964 here. Marxist and weeping and wailing over blacks was the norm. Except a Chinese history class. Prof was NOT a fan of the communists activities during the war and the communist take over of China.

    Other than him, it was Marxism and pro black racism all the way. Only difference is that instead of hating all Whites, the profs only hated southern Whites and anti communists like Senator MCCarthy Nixon and the President and leaders of S Vietnam.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  228. Alden says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Indians invented the water closet 5,000 years ago, used them for a thousand years and haven’t used them since. BFD.

  229. Alden says:
    @Smithsonian_6

    By higher castes you mean higher than untouchables.

  230. anon[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Please give us the relevant statutes and their dates of passage.

    Well, if you want to know the gun laws of Vermont, try searching this term: “gun laws Vermont”.

    You should find this in the first page of results:
    https://ago.vermont.gov/about-the-attorney-generals-office/divisions/criminal-justice/gun-laws/

    and even Wiki is accurate enough for this question:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Vermont

    2018 was a busy and bad year in Vermont. The usual Soros checklist was attempted, and some of it got signed into law. Magazine limits, restrictions on sales, etc. It was in various newspapers, including the NY Times. No big deal if you did not know that, however, there’s only so many hours in the day, I truly understand. Zero sarcasm intended .

    BUT: You could have known all of this and more in a minute or two via search, saving you from making your ignorant “50 year” comment. Just stating the obvious.

    Is Steve’s California concealed carry permit valid in Vermont?

    lol.
    You’re really not good at this. Plus rather a dork for mentioning that personal detail of Steve’s life, whether it is true or not….and right back at you, dude:: is a California CCL valid in Idaho? How about Wyoming? Alaska? Arizona? If you want to know about reciprocity and concealed carry law it’s literally at your fingertips, but you must muster the gumption to admit there’s something you don’t know. Maybe there’s your problem? Looking stuff up is very easy.

    Simple enough question– for an honest commenter.

    Oh, my.
    Butthurt much? That passive-aggressive mid-school whining is not a good look for a man. Just saying .

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  231. Anonymous[248] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfa158

    White liberals fleeing California because of high taxes, insane housing costs, crime, a hostile business climate, and steezer dysfunction-and then voting for the exact same policies and thereby wrecking their new habitat-are called Californicators.

    The Carolinas are getting tons of old duffers and their middle aged offspring from New Jersey and the NYC metro area. They haven’t settled on a name for this invasive pest species yet though.

    • Replies: @peterike
    , @Jim Don Bob
  232. AnonAnon says:
    @XYZ (no Mr.)

    White not Hispanic 1,417,055 22.90%

    Current White %-age at UCI is 14.3%. It would be nice if they at least mirrored the student population of the state, let alone the county.

  233. New UC racial admissions standards…

    LATINOS — Oh, just go ahead and sneak in, it worked before.

    BLACKS — TBH, nobody really wants any, but we’ll admit a whole boatload, because… well you know.

    MUSLIMS — See under “blacks.”

    JEWS — Oh, don’t sweat it, boychik, you’re a Bon MOT, remember?

    CHINESE / PAJEETS — Feel free to bribe, cheat, or grind your way in. So long as the check clears…

    WHITE GIRLS — Blacks and Jews: Yes, please!

    WHITE BOYS — You have no power here. Now begone! Before somebody drops a Holocaust Museum on you, too.

  234. How to destroy your universities:

    Step 1: Let anybody who wants to enter, enter.

    Step 2: Sit back, put your feet up and crack a beer.

    The kids will work it out. Pretty soon no one with any brains will want to go there.

    • Replies: @anon
  235. AnonAnon says:
    @Lagertha

    “The most intelligent foreign & American students will take a “gap year.” Or, their parents will say: you’re taking a gap year. “

    True, though some schools don’t allow deferments. Many California parents are in a tough situation. Cal Poly San Luis Obispo doesn’t allow you to defer. If you don’t go, your admittance is cancelled and there are many people waiting to take your spot. It looks like the UCs don’t allow deferments either. It’s unclear what the deferment policies are for the other CSUs. If you are already a student you can take a quarter or semester off but incoming freshman are screwed.

  236. George says:

    Li Cai, being a Person of Diversity,

    Based on test scores the core of American academic competence is Asian. So Li Cai really is not adding much diversity, especially in a math driven area like statistics. What I think Li Cai represents is the transition of American elite from White and Jewish to Asian.

    “analyzing their growth throughout high school, and use newer testing technologies” He seems to be proposing a California alternative to the Educational Testing Service, headquartered in Lawrence Township, New Jersey, but has a WASPy Princeton address. ACT, Based in Iowa City IA, was the 1960 White (Germanic+Nordic) Midwestern answer to WASP+Jewish Eastern domination.

    Smarter Balanced is another California alternative.

    https://www.smarterbalanced.org/staff/

  237. Inverness says:
    @Arclight

    Yep. He says:

    Immigration *must* stop.

    I say: immigration must stop *in 1965.*

  238. peterike says:
    @82-IQ H1B Indian

    So how many of the 15.3% [of Asians] are voters?

    In California? Everyone that wants to be.

  239. peterike says:
    @Anonymous

    The Carolinas are getting tons of old duffers and their middle aged offspring from New Jersey and the NYC metro area. They haven’t settled on a name for this invasive pest species yet though.

    Well “carpetbaggers” has a long and illustrious history.

  240. @J.Ross

    As I was surprised to discover when I tried to buy a monadnock, Michigan prohibits batons, some of which were invented and marketed as a non-lethal alternative to guns.

    According to http://weaponlaws.wikidot.com/state-baton-laws it’s not actually illegal to own, just “to carry with intent to use unlawfully against another “any other dangerous or deadly weapon or instrument”.

    FWIW batonwarehouse doesn’t pay much attention to state and municipal restrictions even for NY & NJ where they are entirely illegal.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  241. AKAHorace says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    I don’t think people should waste too much time trying to read tea leaves about why UC system is using Covid19 to nix SATs now. I’m sure having rich stupid kids pay full freight is fine, but really they’re just doing exactly what all of the left and all of Globo-Shlomo is doing right now: using the lockdown as an excuse to get their Christmas list of zany leftist nightmare-dreams.

    As I posted earlier I think that this is probably more about money than social justice. A link
    to an article about the problems US universities are facing because of the virus

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/05/what-is-college-without-the-campus.html

    Most of us who comment here are more interested in the latest social justice outrages than the problems of running a university campus. Social justice outrages are often wacky, bizarre and fun to read about. This may bias our perception.

  242. Muggles says:
    @XYZ (no Mr.)

    If you think 60 is an advanced age, for someone who had the best medical care of his day, you are mistaken. Have you seen a photo of “old” Teddy? Looks like he’s 80.

    In his later years he took to exploring the Amazon with one of his children and others. Got very sick there. Also, many claim he was “broken hearted” after one of his cherished sons, died uselessly in WWI.

    He was a vicious (and racist) warmonger who extolled killing for it’s own sake. Yes, that was “manly” back then but hardly correct in any sense. Trophy killing wild animals doesn’t make you virile. Or engaging in pointless war for the sake of “proving your courage.” False heroism.

    I’m not sure he ever recanted his warmongering cheer-leading, but I think he stopped after his own personal family loss. WWI was a European charnel house which led to WWII and the advanced horrors of both Communism and Fascism.

    While Teddy did some good things like national parks and wilderness preservation, nearly all of his political ideas were horrible. He has become an unexamined statist hero out of ignorance and “progressive” collectivist propaganda.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  243. @Anonymous

    The Carolinas are getting tons of old duffers and their middle aged offspring from New Jersey and the NYC metro area. They haven’t settled on a name for this invasive pest species yet though.

    In the Raleigh-Durham area, they say that Cary NC means Containment Area for Recycled Yankees.

    And yes, the Yankees who moved to NC because of high taxes in their home states are voting for the same crap (“good schools”, etc.) that created those taxation levels in the first place.

  244. anon[334] • Disclaimer says:
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    This is a war – and we must fight.

    How are you fighting this alleged war, aside from whining and snarking in comboxes?
    Got any details to share or advice to give?

    • Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
  245. anon[334] • Disclaimer says:
    @Stebbing Heuer

    It’s an old story. Here’s how it is for uni’s.

    A uni can have:
    1. Open student admission.
    2. High student retention.
    3. Quality graduates.

    But can’t have all three, pick one or at most two. Uni’s that try to have all three will fail one way or another.

  246. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Interesting link, thanks.

    The narrower point is that the Harappa civilization itself never spread into present-day India although some of their cultural influence must have radiated.

    Ethnically and linguistically, the Harappans were not Indo-Europeans. The Indo-European expansion superseded Harappa.

  247. @Achmed E. Newman

    Have you asked your wife to provide you with irrefutable, unassailable proof that wearing masks are necessary to protect other people?

    Have you asked your wife to furnish you with irrefutable, unassailable proof that failure to don a mouth diaper constitutes a real and present danger?

    Have you presented your wife with the evidence, readily available where not censored, that mouth diapers, at best, might help a teeny bit and, at worst, may be harmful?

    • Replies: @AKAHorace
  248. @Steve Sailer

    No, those who supinely submit and don the fear masks are playing into the hands of their satraps as well as the globalists.

  249. @Squid

    And what more needed they to know?

    They had armies of civil servants, scientists and even clergyman to know things for them. They asked, and they received.
    Then they made the decisions, which did lead, after all, to the creation of rather an important world power, one which only began to falter when the knowledgable of limited vision were allowed to crowd out the natural leaders of men.

    On the other hand, your question is a doozy, which I will be trying out on just about everybody I meet for the foreseeable future.

    Nobody under 30 will have the foggiest.

  250. @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    Check out Eric Peters at EricPetersAutos.com. You can also find him at LewRockwell.com He recognizes that donning the diaper-masks is more than just a matter of fashion.

    What is so disappointing about Steve is that he has so willingly sold his soul in exchange for the illusion of safety.

  251. Anon[200] • Disclaimer says:
    @82-IQ H1B Indian

    I was surprised that there was no question asking whether I am an American citizen or not.

    The Trump admin wanted to add that question. The Dems and the msm protested vehemently and Trump admin eventually dropped the question. Dems don’t want the citizenship question as it would expose their gerrymandering. They’ve been forcing redistricting based on racial data without regards to citizenship. It’s their goal to get all non-citizens to vote the minute they stepped foot in this country.

  252. @Alan Mercer

    Historically, Berkeley took in the cream of every high school class in the state – and then flunked a third of them out in freshman year.
    Made for a great place; sad what’s happened since.
    But no more than one small facet of the wider tragedy of the post-1968 world.

  253. @Achmed E. Newman

    I was required by work to wear these. I and quite a few others have not been wearing them. I wish I could tell you more. I even had some young punks walk down the big hall and mutter something about “… what kind of role model…”. If I’d have more time for a comeback (you never do!), it’d have been “yeah, I’m a role model of how to get the hell off your smart phone for a while and live your life!”

    Because it’s just impossible to get off the phone and live life while wearing a mask in public indoors areas? You share the sentiments of large groups of Orthodox Jews and house party blacks. Masks schmasks, right? You’re all tougher than some invisible virus.

    The politicization of every policy, treatment, and response to the Wuhan virus has been an indicator of how much of a circus our culture war has become. Masks work a lot of the time. Hydroxychloroquine probably works in early stages. Trump screwed up. The CDC screwed up. De Blasio screwed up. China screwed up. People in parks and at beaches aren’t nearly the threat that mass gatherings of certain favored groups are. All these are true regardless of what party somebody votes for.

    Yes, this column is salty iSteve at his best, injecting some acerbic truth into the latest Golden State leftist shenanigans.

    • Agree: AKAHorace
  254. @Alden

    Are you talking about Berkeley?
    Berkeley still had a large number of conservatives in the history and English departments in my day (I graduated in 1971). History was run by them: a Leftist professor of Italian history was even denied tenure, and one of the more notable professors in that department was an outspoken admirer of Benito Mussolini. Slottman and Brentano were deeply conservative; a Jew who taught British history was so anglophilic that he became a Christian.
    The Leftists in those days were in those STEM subjects so many of you here so strangely idolise, and the mathematicians were the worst. But why wouldn’t they be: we all know that really good maths people are half-mad. But there were some good people there too: Hardin B. Jones stood out as a hero of both the old-fashioned anti-Communist right, and a newer (or perhaps not so new) eugenically inclined authoritarianism.
    Philosophy was a strangely mixed bag: the logical positivist types were mostly Jewish and all on the Left, while the more truly philosophical, although mildly contemptuous of classical philosophy (i.e. Aristotelian Thomism) were at least aware that it addressed reality and said valuable things about it.
    In other words, the waste-land of today was then only a possibility; there was nothing inevitable about it.
    All too many of us just turned away our gaze and pretended it wasn’t happening.

    • Replies: @Alden
  255. J.Ross says:
    @kaganovitch

    (For public advice, Michigan is not the only state with this prohibition)
    The purchase won’t go through without a law enforcement address, and the reason it won’t go through will probably be given as state prohibition.

  256. This is about getting more latinx in, not rich kids IMO

  257. JMcG says:
    @Muggles

    Curious here . What does make a man? What does prove virility? I agree that Teddy, in terms of service to the nation, was a waste: but after thousands of years we should know. What makes a man?

  258. AKAHorace says:
    @Liberty Mike

    Have you asked your wife to provide you with irrefutable, unassailable proof that wearing masks are necessary to protect other people?

    So Mike, are you married ?

    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
  259. @anon

    2018 was a busy and bad year in Vermont

    2018. Not 2008. Not 1998. Not 1988. Not 1978. Democrats have dominated the state since Reagan retired, if not sooner. My point was that it took time. You maintain that it didn’t. Okay, then, why do you pick so late a date?

    that personal detail of Steve’s life

    I merely borrowed Steve’s name to represent a generic Californian, indeed, a generic out-of-stater. It wasn’t personal. And just about everybody else here figured that much out.

    Well, if you want to know the gun laws of Vermont, try searching this term: “gun laws Vermont”.

    I wasn’t looking for the answer, but to see if you knew it. Everyone else here figured that out; I mistakenly figured you did, too.

    Vermont had an implicit right-t0-carry since statehood, and before, until recently. You say it’s been repealed. I’ll take your word for it. Give me the date of its repeal, if it happened. I’m too busy to look it up, but y0u seem to know this stuff by heart.

    This map needs to be updated, because it seems to disagree with you:

    You can correct the site owner here: http://www.gun-nuttery.com/email.php

    Oh, my.
    Butthurt much? That passive-aggressive mid-school whining is not a good look for a man.

    You’re the one posting as “anon”-with-the-ever-chaning-number.

    Just saying .

    Talk white.

    • Replies: @anon
  260. Anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    “Democratic governors have taken us hostage.”

    What do you mean “us”? Your use of the word “whilst” a few weeks ago revealed that you’re not an American.

    So what really is your agenda?

    Here’s a wild guess: you get a small stipend from the Chicoms to muddy the waters. To get ‘merkins squabbling “amongst” themselves to deflect attention from Chicom culpability in this pandemic disaster.

  261. anon[111] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    2018 was a busy and bad year in Vermont

    2018. Not 2008. Not 1998. Not 1988. Not 1978. Democrats have dominated the state since Reagan retired, if not sooner. My point was that it took time.

    No, you claimed that “gun control” had not advanced in Vermont for 50 years. That claim is false, and if you’d bothered to check your opinion against reality you would have known that. Then you would not have made a foolish mistake. Now you’ve compounded that foolish, ignorant mistake with this contentious argumentation.

    You were wrong. Again. Deal with it. Like an adult.

    You maintain that it didn’t.

    I maintain that Vermont has received “gun control” legislation in the last 50 years, a negation of your false claim. Don’t make stuff up in your head and pretend it is real. That’s childish and rather effeminate.

    Okay, then, why do you pick so late a date?

    I did not pick a date, the gun-grabbers did. Once again, your claim is false, and obviously you are unable to admit error. That’s a bad habit, especially for someone of your age.

    I merely borrowed Steve’s name to represent a generic Californian, indeed, a generic out-of-stater.

    That is stupid. Anyone who actually knows about concealed carry would know why.

    It wasn’t personal. And just about everybody else here figured that much out.

    Argumentum ad populum is a fallacy. If 10,000 people believe a falsehood it remains false. You don’t know if anyone else is even paying attention to this. You don’t know what others have or have not figured out. You don’t know why I chose to refer to Idaho, Arizona, Wyoming and Alaska, either. There’s a lot you don’t know. Humility would help you to learn.

    Well, if you want to know the gun laws of Vermont, try searching this term: “gun laws Vermont”.

    I wasn’t looking for the answer, but to see if you knew it. Everyone else here figured that out; I mistakenly figured you did, too.

    lol, Now you are just squirming. You clearly didn’t / don’t know much about Vermont firearms law, or many other things involving firearms.

    Vermont had an implicit right-t0-carry since statehood, and before, until recently.

    Did you even bother to read the links I generously provided for you?

    You say it’s been repealed.

    Nowhere did I make that claim. You’re so lazy you can’t even bother to read what I did state: hint “Magazine” “transaction” would be useful words if you were actually trying to debate in good faith.

    I’ll take your word for it. Give me the date of its repeal, if it happened. I’m too busy to look it up, but y0u seem to know this stuff by heart.

    You are not too busy to look up the demographics of Colorado, nor are you too busy to post here all day. Therefore you are logically not “too busy” to check your facts before commenting, just too arrogant. You are also obviously too filled with pride to admit error. Perhaps you should consult with your catechism or even your priest on that topic. Pride is not good for us.

    Probably you should stick to the class-clown act and leave serious topics to others. Then you would be much less likely to post nonsense, and thus less likely to be corrected by some random anon, and therefore much less likely to be triggered & become butthurt.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  262. Mike Tre says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Only in the sequel to 1984 could someone suggest that wearing a mask in public is about courtesy and gentlemanliness, and not humiliation and control.

    Perhaps the weak and infirm should merely stay home, and let everyone else continue with their lives. Another form of what AnotherDad calls minoritarianism.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Alden
  263. @Mike Tre

    Or maybe the Biological Supermen who can laugh off the virus should volunteer for the minor personal inconvenience of wearing a mask to reduce the risk to the 100 million old, weak, and infirm?

    • Agree: AKAHorace
    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
  264. Mike Tre says:

    Maybe we should get bar code tattoos on our arms while we’re at it.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  265. @Steve Sailer

    Your post assumes facts not in evidence while ignoring others.

    To wit, A’s donning of a mask does not reduce the risk of harm to B whereas A does increase the risk of hypoxia, damage to his lungs, headaches, and increasing the concentration of viral particles in his lungs and nasal passages.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @AKAHorace
  266. @AKAHorace

    Yes.

    And yesterday I directed my wife to read an article penned by Dr. Russell Blaylock in which he set forth the dangers of wearing a mask.

    Although my spouse leans libertarian, she is still a woman, and therefore, prone to be moved by emotion, including, of course, fear.

    Now, she knows it is all about control and that the mouth diapers are a joke.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  267. @anon

    No, you claimed that “gun control” had not advanced in Vermont for 50 years.

    My exact words were “a tad slow”. You remind me of the line in Gravity Falls, “Everyone in this town is a tad strange. Except for Tad Strange, who’s perfectly normal.”

    Okay, then, why do you pick so late a date?

    I did not pick a date, the gun-grabbers did.

    Yes, 2018. Why so late? I’d say they were a tad slow, considering how long ago they consolidated power. Virginia was disarming free men in 1832.

    You’re being obsessive. Seek help. Take your meds.

  268. Alden says:
    @Mike Tre

    Maybe the mask requirement is to allow bank robbers robbers burglars car hackers and murders to not be identified by victims witness and video cameras. Not identified can’t be charged.

  269. Alden says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    Stanford early 1960s. The profs encouraged us to go on the freedom rides down south to the ghetto of E Palo Alto to save the niglets and bragged they had been investigated by Senator McCarthy I’m sure Kennedy was an ok President but the worship of him after he was shot was sickening. Kennedy was shot about 10/am PCT.

    My 11 pm class the Marxist prof was claiming the KKK oil companies steel companies other business associations southerners John birch society republicans anti school desegregation people US army all got together and killed Kennedy. That’s why I’m skeptical of The Who Killed Kennedy industry.

    Plus Blacketty blacketty Black MLK evil White southerners civil rights marche

    It was a long time ago.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  270. Alden says:
    @Liberty Mike

    Hard to breath when wearing a mask. So less oxygen.

  271. AKAHorace says:
    @Liberty Mike

    To wit, A’s donning of a mask does not reduce the risk of harm to B whereas A does increase the risk of hypoxia, damage to his lungs, headaches, and increasing the concentration of viral particles in his lungs and nasal passages.

    Where have you heard this ? If what you are saying is true this must be a serious problem for doctors who wear masks at work everyday for years at a time ?

    And what about places in Asia that seem to have Corinivurus under control partly through using masks ?

    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
  272. @Alden

    And there I was just down the street as it were. For me in those days Stanford was Lake Lagunita, biking, and the Hoover Institution Library.
    East Palo Alto was where we kids were told in no uncertain terms to never go near. I don’t remember every seeing a black, even as a servant, in Palo Alto proper.

    Long time ago? Another universe.

  273. @AKAHorace

    Check out Dr. Russell Blaylock on the question of whether wearing masks are dangerous.

    • Replies: @AKAHorace
  274. @anon

    “How are you fighting this alleged war, aside from whining and snarking in comboxes?”

    I am ridiculing young men donning mouthdiapers and I am slapping mocking stickers on every CoronaHoax terrorism sign I encounter.

  275. AKAHorace says:
    @Liberty Mike

    Check out Dr. Russell Blaylock on the question of whether wearing masks are dangerous.

    He does not inspire confidence, his posts seem to be on sites where other medical people cannot comment. Even after reading what he said I would wear masks for brief periods indoors.

    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
  276. @AKAHorace

    What specific, irrefutable evidence can you adduce to disprove the proposition Dr. Blaylock advances, namely that mask wearing is dangerous?

    Why would you want to wear a mouth diaper? Even for brief periods while indoors?

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