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Racist old people vote for a stupid retrograde option? Wow, what a surprise.
Weird, man. Weird.
By the way, why did the other 32 percent vote to Bremain? Are they Brapists?
Much more amazingly, Birmingham, the 2nd largest city of England at 1 million plus and only about 50% British, voted to leave!!!!!
it would be interesting to see results by ethnicity. My guess: muslims don´t vote, westafricans strongly pro-brexit, polish people strongly against brexitReplies: @5371, @anon
duh. still sounds good, and righteous (not heinous, dude) after 3 fracking decades!
Left Wingers on social media and discussion boards are already blaming Donald Trump for The U.K leaving The European Union.
Haters gonna hate.
Many die-hard Labour supporters must have realized it is now or never to to make a stand against the elites & their open borders/cultmarx agenda. It is a lot easier to vote one way in a referendum than it is to explicitly abandon a political that your family may have supported over several generations (esp since some Labour MPs did support Leave). Still this is a damn good open for a broader ‘wake up’.
They may have a point.
Trump gave Brexit credibility, and now Brexit will give Trump credibility.
Thus are taboos broken.
Trump had somewhere between little and nothing to do with this event. However, you might be right that Trump, as well as Le Pen and other similar leaders and their movements, might very well appear more credible now.
* Is was not credible for establishment dwellers and clingers-on - who have no idea what the people of the country are actually like - but it is really their lack of awareness that was incredible, not Brexit with its many supporters.
The Rotherham rapists came from Pakistan, a Commonwealth country, not via Europe.
Brexit will speed, not stop the browning of Britain.Replies: @AnotherDad
The "Commonwealth" is an outdated old white male concept. Do you even know what year this is?Replies: @Grandpa Jack
The final nail in the EU's coffin was Angela Merkel's illegal decision to throw the borders open wide to millions of so-called refugees.
The ethnic composition of Rotherham (contrary to my impression until now) is
93.5% White, 4.1% Asian (Pakistanis, Indians, etc.), 0.5% Arab or other, with the rest being Black or Mixed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_districts_and_their_ethnic_composition
Only about 4%, and still they managed to cause all that trouble. Sounds like a good reason to prevent their numbers from increasing any further.
At no point during the whole campaign did I seriously believe Britain would leave. For about five minutes yesterday morning I got all ahead of myself, then I got depressed again and stayed up reading Moldbug and listening to sad songs.
Who knows, maybe it’s time to give this democracy thing a second look?
Haters gonna hate.Replies: @22pp22, @gda, @NickG, @Grandpa Jack
This is Merkel’s doing. Trump haters are insane. I just went to buy breakfast. My Cypriot neighbours were stunned and then happy. They all knew this is down to Merkel’s crazy decision to invite in the entire Muslim world.
"unleashing global turmoil"
https://chrisnonymous.tumblr.com/image/146394910259Replies: @Olorin, @SFG
Steve,
I hope you follow the exit polls. I am eager to see how the non-English voted v. the English.
I am watching MSNBC right now. Not because their coverage is any good but because it is fun to watch Lawrence O’Donnell eating shit.
How many alt-right idiots realize that Brexit makes European migration to the UK harder but doesn’t stop 3rd World immigration? topkek
I don't see any idiots around here.Replies: @Marcus
somewhere
Brexit maybe gave Trump +2 pts or Le Pen or AfD
or whoever
stress the system
“This is Merkel’s doing. Trump haters are insane. I just went to buy breakfast. My Cypriot neighbours were stunned and then happy. They all knew this is down to Merkel’s crazy decision to invite in the entire Muslim world.”
They blame Donald Trump’s racist message of hate for spreading to The United Kingdom. Trump haters believe he has a huge influence over British politics.
OT but Mizzou president says people don’t want to send their kids or donations there are bitter racists.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/23/mizzou-interim-president-those-who-didnt-support-race-protests-were-bitter-angry-people.html
That should encourage more donations & enrollment.
“Racist old people vote for a stupid retrograde option?”
The proper term is tribalist not racist. Here an example of its use in a sentence:
“All peoples in all times have been, to some degree, tribal. Tribalism is not inherently harmful and for most societies some quantum of it is necessary for healthy survival, functioning and growth. For a period of time in the late 20th century and early 21st century mentally ill people gained power in some western societies and organized themselves around the idea of reducing tribalism. These incompetents gained influence in media and academia until the great voter revolts of 2016 swept them from power. ”
Why aren’t they following the lead of those groovy SWPLs?
I hope the multicultural bastards get everything they have coming.
Not so surprising. The closer the dominance gap in terms of which tribe controls, the more attentive people become to the importance of preserving their tribal power/protection base. Just ask a southerner. It is only members of a dominant tribe with a large demographic advantage in a region and total control of the political mechanisms who can prioritize virtue signaling over tribal preservation.
Right Wing Brits all over The U.K should celebrate by putting on some Clash songs.
What percentage of Rotherham is Muslim? Would it be wrong to guess around 32%?
Haters gonna hate.Replies: @22pp22, @gda, @NickG, @Grandpa Jack
Brexit = Trump. Book it. Get used to it. Savour it.
What’s with all these Muslims wanting to live around a bunch of racist old white people?
Weird, man. Weird.
Yeah I’m aware of that point but it usually doesn’t hold in cosmpolitan cities, take the cities of London, Liverpool, Manchester, etc. for example. Also it’s not always true, West Virginia(all white almost and very conservative republican), Appalachia in general, and even just flyover country in general vs California(high liberal/democratic whites despite high NAM and asians), and many areas in the Northeast.
Yeah, that’s why their young deserve to be raped. Serves ’em right! Frankly, I was beginning to worry about the Narrative when news of Rotherham’s Muslim rape gangs came out. But learning of white Rotherham’s shocking inherent racism redeems that. False alarm; just some nasty old racists. Nice save, thanks!
Many “old” things, including ideas, are GOOD. Is that a surprise to you?
ha, haa – you guys are still, always, crazy-on and non-stop…thanks for editing/omitting my stupid bs and drivel! I am too bug-eyed tonight (ya caught that like a pike) , after a long, long epic roadtrip, to make any sense, of all of this Brexit/Ilegal aliens, AA stuff today! What a day! Wadda day, a’ la, the War Boy.
MSM pundits I have seen are taking a tone of “you’ll be sorry”, with lots of typical arrogance, mockery, contempt. Unbelievable.
Wow, Obamesty voted down, Brexit voted up, and the Freddie Gray rough riders acquitted. Now this is really an iSteve kind of day.
Probably all the Pakistanis there. Now that Poles can no longer come there is more place for immigrants from commonwealth countries.
OMFG!!!!!! Just cleaned out my ancient mini-van from the long “eastern states” road trip!
Ha, ha, ha, haaa! U.K. is goin’ back! Proud of the UK, England has decided (after watching Vikings on Cable-my silly b.s. idea) they are, bullocks, a real country! England Proud, my friends, UK Proud of Wales & Scotland! I think, probably wrong tonight considering my wobbly brain, Ireland, is still questionable! And, the last thing I can say is: It’s all good. Nothing much changes…really, nothing much changes – it’s all about money, and, money is simple.
It is tempting to ascribe the results in Rotherham to ficki ficki, but the banal reality is that these figures were typical throughout northern England’s (post)-industrial towns.
The muslims who sexually brutalized young white girls in Rotherham (among other places) did not come from the EU.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36615879
"You" people specialize in missing the point don't you.
When your borders are controlled by Brussels you don't get a say on who you can keep out, because they now want to let in even more Muslim rapists.Replies: @eah
OT – Steve has described the migration into Europe as one being driven by smartphones. He wrote about the increasingly connected third worlders being sent images on their smartphones from relatives who made it into Europe as being a major factor in causing folks to leave. Now the NY Times has an article with a similar theme.
Facebook Envy Lures Egyptian Teenagers to Europe and the Migrant Life
Reality therapy! He saw first hand that his brother had a dirty, low-paying job in an automotive repair shop. That's the only work he could find. He worked extremely long hours trying to support his family, barely making ends meet. It was survival, nothing more ... although the brother did have a large-screen TV and a cell phone. (Prices at Walmart do make these kinds of dreams possible.) His brother was not happy.
My assistant decided that the "American Dream" was a chimera. There was a serious downside to going to America so that you could acquire a large-screen TV and a cell phone. He decided to stay where he was.
Perhaps a little PR could make this clear to prospective economic immigrants and help stop the flow by exposing the downside to the "streets paved with gold" themes on Facebook. Living in a slum and sweeping the streets in Marseilles is a high price to pay for a large-screen TV and a cell phone ... and there are only so many jobs for street sweepers in Marseilles. These jobs are already taken. Same for the low-end jobs in Los Angeles.Replies: @Ivy
I voted Leave, but this morning I feel really, really sad. I’m sorry it came to this.
Britain and the US are very different countries, but if the Brexiteers can pull this off, I’m inclined to think Trump can too.
What's impressive is how the old Labour heartlands voted (Scotland is no longer a Labour heartland and independence there is right back on the agenda). The working class's revenge on Tony Blair, who opened the doors to Eastern Europe in 2005.
My children may be able to afford to buy a house after all, one day.
Brexit is an agent of chaos.
You know the thing about chaos?
It’s fair.
Yes. It saddens and angers me to see the contempt the left is displaying toward those who voted to leave. The worst of it is their blithe conflation of “white working class” with “white trash”. I don’t even think they bother to realize there’s any difference between the two groups.
I’ll take racist old people over child molesters and pimps any day.
By the way, why did the other 32 percent vote to Bremain? Are they Brapists?
You mean, they voted to leave Britain? Revealed preference after all…
“only about 50% British”
it would be interesting to see results by ethnicity. My guess: muslims don´t vote, westafricans strongly pro-brexit, polish people strongly against brexit
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why
It's one of the reasons they are so useful to the Left because other low education groups tend to have very low voter turnout.
Britain and the US are very different countries, but if the Brexiteers can pull this off, I'm inclined to think Trump can too.Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @The Alarmist
It’s a long way from a vote to a Brexit and I don’t think the globalists will just lie down. They’re probably thinking “a few more years and all those old white people will be dead”. But it’s a grand day regardless. Lots of work ahead, and while a Remain vote meant the eventual death of Britain, the demographics are still very very bad – something like a third of primary kids being “ethnic minority”.
What’s impressive is how the old Labour heartlands voted (Scotland is no longer a Labour heartland and independence there is right back on the agenda). The working class’s revenge on Tony Blair, who opened the doors to Eastern Europe in 2005.
My children may be able to afford to buy a house after all, one day.
It’s very interesting that your Cypriot neighbors were happy. Here in Japan, people I’ve talked to are devastated–both European expats (predictably) and Japanese (a bit surprisingly). Even, today, in Gold’s Gym today, the meatheads are watching the news. It’s rainy season so we were deluged today, but one guy said the rain is for Brexit… They crazy, but they’re so removed from the situation (what with having no appreciable experience of mass immigration) that they only thing they know is the financial reporting. And of course it’s BAD, BAD, BAD for the world economy…
“unleashing global turmoil”
https://chrisnonymous.tumblr.com/image/146394910259
Hey! Looks like a Headline Contest!! I think I can beat yours!
How about this one:
“Zombie Rule-Following Germans Prompt Brits to Historic Drastic Action–Again!”
Ignore the doomsday stuff. I am taking a lesson from the past: invest in the European markets! Buy property in UK. Buy stock in classic British co’s. Easy. Don’t listen to the “sky is falling, oh my, crap.” The Brits have showed their bravery once again. Everyone surely remembers that GB was alone facing Hitler before the Yankies (who everyone in Europe hates these days, btw) came to do battle together with them.
But, with due respect, the latest difficulties have to deal with: who pays for people who migrate/emigrate but come to live off of the EU countries without paying into the pot as has been since the 1960’s/70’s. If you wanna come and live in Europe, well, you have to be productive and not live off of other people’s hard work. Don’t collect public assistance/welfare if you are able-bodied…so fracking simple! Why is the Fracking MSM, and the EU apparatchiks so surprised?! What a bunch of Rubes!
The very, very, wealthy are celebrating in Europe! They are proud of the Plebes/Proles doing the dirty work, but believe me, the wealthy are celebrating.
BTW in Europe, Money is money and it always finds a home in conservative enclaves. Nothing will change. London is still gonna be bros with NYC for finance. duh.
Tony Blair was the author of brexit.
Also, wealthy people can take a hit…..and, the EU was headed to full-fledged napalm. SO, it is all good! Wealthy people, world-wide, care more about money; not so much about those tiresome immigrants that they “hear about,” in their country.
Forget about ‘polls.’ We are going to have to figure out a better way to predict elections. The pretend obsession now is with old people & landlines. Bullshit. It’s something else, and it is a natural reaction like a ‘Bradley’ effect, except in resistance to totalitarian globalist One Worldism.
The 'Bradley' effect (over indication of support) will probably give way to the 'Trump' effect (under indication of support). When The Narrative is loud (must vote for Bradley, neverTrump), polling will not discern what the electorate does in the voting booth.
The Brits finished off paying their WWII fiscal debt to the US around 2006 or so. If they can deport the immigrant riff raff in the next few years, and curb their insane welfare policy, they’ll be swinging a decent sized bat in the world economy for the first time in ages. I’d love to see them manufacture their own cars again. Loved those MG’s.
Once our International Negro leaves office, and Trump is in control, America will help you defeat the crazy Germans, just like last time!
But we lost on affirmative action, unfortunately.
The very, very, wealthy are celebrating in Europe! They are proud of the Plebes/Proles doing the dirty work, but believe me, the wealthy are celebrating. Invest in British stock, London & British properties…soccer teams, good stuff. UK will be fine – it is the Wall St. of EU, so, duh, not gonna go anywhere else. Nothing else is cool enough.
Predelictions for next to leave?
I guess Denmark
So in response to a bunch of (non-EU) Pakistanis raping and pimping out young girls, Polish plumbers have to leave the UK. Great.
The EU kind of sucks, but the problem immigrants in the UK are overwhelmingly people that Britain decided to bring in on their own, not people who were entitled to move there by EU citizenship.
Britain isn’t part of the Schengen region and has a body of water separating it from Merkel’s millions, so they’re shielded from the refugee crisis as well.
All the Poles will have to leave, but the Pakistanis will all remain?
Nevertheless, I think I may add a Union Jack to the bumper of my British car. Once I get it running properly and all sorted out.Replies: @Big Bill
They won't necessarily have to leave, but they won't have the right to remain in the UK if they're not wanted or needed.I think it's a but disingenuous to pretend that Merkel's plan didn't include pressuring other EU Member states to relocate migrants who made their way in their own nations.
with a bit of luck this result will help Poland avoid Merkel's millions
Haters gonna hate.Replies: @22pp22, @gda, @NickG, @Grandpa Jack
They should rather be crediting Herr Merkel.
David Cameron has just said he will step down as Prime Minister “by October”. I think he should have stayed as he’d previously said he would. Can’t see any obvious successor, let’s hope it’s not Teresa May, a childless Merkel Mk 2.
It was the elderly Labour voters, who’ve been shafted by their party over 40 years, who did for the Remain campaign. Old people generally voted 66-33 to leave – because they can remember when we governed ourselves. It’s sad to see the lack of confidence in Britain in the young – but then school and university teaches that to them.
The EU kind of sucks, but the problem immigrants in the UK are overwhelmingly people that Britain decided to bring in on their own, not people who were entitled to move there by EU citizenship.
Britain isn't part of the Schengen region and has a body of water separating it from Merkel's millions, so they're shielded from the refugee crisis as well.Replies: @wren, @V Vega, @Alec Leamas, @ben tillman, @anon
I don’t understand how this is going to work.
All the Poles will have to leave, but the Pakistanis will all remain?
Nevertheless, I think I may add a Union Jack to the bumper of my British car. Once I get it running properly and all sorted out.
The EU kind of sucks, but the problem immigrants in the UK are overwhelmingly people that Britain decided to bring in on their own, not people who were entitled to move there by EU citizenship.
Britain isn't part of the Schengen region and has a body of water separating it from Merkel's millions, so they're shielded from the refugee crisis as well.Replies: @wren, @V Vega, @Alec Leamas, @ben tillman, @anon
Uh… maybe you’re unaware, but Poland exported a mighty share of polish shithead grifters plying their trade in England, using the moniker of “construction company” to trick trusting Brits out of their money. Sob stories galore of Brits handing a construction job to some polish immigrants, and getting hosed good, with little recourse. If things got hot, the poles would just reregister under another name, and carry on, with no legal repercussions. I have a Brit friend who went through a living hell over a building upgrade thanks to a polish “construction company,” and he’s no exception. It’s out of control there.
Hopefully, Brixit will help put that shit to an end.
"unleashing global turmoil"
https://chrisnonymous.tumblr.com/image/146394910259Replies: @Olorin, @SFG
Of course you do recognize the hyperbole of Unleashed Global Turmoil.
Which is to say the globalists will cash out of investments. Other globalists will lose some percentage/fraction of their investments. Things will have to be renegotiated under prevailing conditions at time of contract, rather than rubberstamped by an occupying international cabal.
The unemployed Britons of the everywhere but London are unlikely to feel the billionaires’ pain.
Also there will be that nearly $18 bn a year USD savings.
That’s what the Telegraph reported as the amount UK won’t be paying to Brussels after the exit. (Elsewhere I mis-typed it as 12+ bn USD; I meant pounds sterling.)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12176663/EU-Facts-how-much-does-Britain-pay-to-the-EU-budget.html
You know the thing about chaos?
It's fair.Replies: @Percy Gryce
And I’ve described Trump as the candidate of chaos.
True, but this result is already starting to ignite fires in other European countries:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36615879
And a big part of Brexit was about favouring POC immigrants from Commonwealth countries over east europeans.
Brexit will speed, not stop the browning of Britain.
Furthermore, Merkel's millions after getting EU citizenship in Germany, could then move to Britain, so Britain would have been "browned" from inside the EU. This vote specifically quashes that. So it results in a less brown Britain than you'd get otherwise.
That the job of restoring sovereignty and then sanity is not complete--no argument. But you have to take the first step.Replies: @Pseudonymic Handle
“The Rotherham rapists came from Pakistan, a Commonwealth country, not via Europe.”
The “Commonwealth” is an outdated old white male concept. Do you even know what year this is?
A large part of “Remain” consisted of people who Like England but hated the English.
"unleashing global turmoil"
https://chrisnonymous.tumblr.com/image/146394910259Replies: @Olorin, @SFG
You could argue the rain is Mother Nature showing her solidarity with England–the gentleman with his umbrella was always one of the more familiar stereotypes, at least over here in the USA.
lolz
All the Poles will have to leave, but the Pakistanis will all remain?
Nevertheless, I think I may add a Union Jack to the bumper of my British car. Once I get it running properly and all sorted out.Replies: @Big Bill
Now that GB is leaving the EU, they can design their own immigration policies for their own survival without being challenged by higher foreign EU courts and agencies.
Scotland voted overwhelmingly to stay in the E.U. In the words of Rev. Pat Robertson, “Scotland is a dark land overrun by gays.”
There is no difference in the worldview of self-regarded elites – white proles on both sides of the Atlantic need to be led if not cajoled, coerced, and hoodwinked. They’ll never come to the correct conclusion if presented with the relevant information and allowed to speak plainly and honestly and will stand as the obstacle to progress in a free and fair democratic political system. They object to decisions being made before the voting takes place. Why, in America prole whites are throwing a tantrum at the prospect of their demographic displacement!
The EU kind of sucks, but the problem immigrants in the UK are overwhelmingly people that Britain decided to bring in on their own, not people who were entitled to move there by EU citizenship.
Britain isn't part of the Schengen region and has a body of water separating it from Merkel's millions, so they're shielded from the refugee crisis as well.Replies: @wren, @V Vega, @Alec Leamas, @ben tillman, @anon
Um, there’s a difference between Poles staying at the pleasure of Her Majesty’s Government and unlimited numbers of Poles having the fundamental right to reside in the UK regardless of whether they are wanted or needed by virtue of citizenship in an EU Member state.
They won’t necessarily have to leave, but they won’t have the right to remain in the UK if they’re not wanted or needed.
I think it’s a but disingenuous to pretend that Merkel’s plan didn’t include pressuring other EU Member states to relocate migrants who made their way in their own nations.
Sigh. (Was that on my teleprompter.)
“You” people specialize in missing the point don’t you.
When your borders are controlled by Brussels you don’t get a say on who you can keep out, because they now want to let in even more Muslim rapists.
it would be interesting to see results by ethnicity. My guess: muslims don´t vote, westafricans strongly pro-brexit, polish people strongly against brexitReplies: @5371, @anon
70% or more of Muslims and blacks voted Remain, as you could guess by the electoral geography and exit polls confirm.
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why
True enough, but this was to some degree as close to a referendum on mass immigration as the voters of most countries will ever be allowed to get, and the open borders nazis lost – and lost big time in England, to which most immigrants have moved.
The final nail in the EU’s coffin was Angela Merkel’s illegal decision to throw the borders open wide to millions of so-called refugees.
Farrage has publicly given support to more extra-European immigration. Alt-Righters aren’t just idiots, they’re raving mad lunatics.
It cuts of at least one channel for 3rd world immigration into Britain, that which flows via the EU itself. The EU hasn’t enforced its borders and everyone who successfully lands in Europe is permitted entry into the UK with the British not able to exercise any control over this. I’d say this is a battle victory for immigration control overall. The war however still wages on of course. Since Brexit and anti-EU sentiment has been a winning issue for anti-immigration nationalist parties these folks are now understandably emboldened.
I don’t see any idiots around here.
Migrants do the jobs Englishmen won’t do:
Rotherham Child Abuse Scandal: 1,400 female children exploited.
The same seems to be true in the US.
This song suddenly seems relevant again:
With a loud SLAM the EU’s first domino has fallen.
Who’s next?
The stalwart resistance fighters against the EU’s “you will admit tens of thousands of Moslem rapefugees, or pay exorbitant penalties” diktat, the Visegrad Four, perhaps?
Together with Germany, the deeply, foolishly indebted PIIGs will likely be the last EU holdouts, and the PIIGs’ enormous liability should finally force Germany itself to sponsor an end to Brussels’ anti-democratic hegemony.
People of the West are awakening to the bleak civilizational peril into which Globalist greed forced and Multi-Culti lies deceived us.
“[D]edicated to the proposition that…all men…under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”
Sound impossible? Well, we’ve got to start somewhere, haven’t we.
It’s a wonderful day the the Sailerhood.
Don’t feed the troll
Farage*
Seriously, why did Scotland vote to remain? Was it seen as an anti-English vote? Is Scotland more leftist/SJW? If so, why? Is it something else? I’m not asking rhetorically. I’m sure some of the isteve commentariat knows about Scotland.
- Scotland has had a lot less immigration then England
- anti-English as the leaders of "leave" are English stereotypes
- Scottish independence more likely if England voted one way and Scotland the other
with the first reason most important.
Now instead of Pollacks they’re going to get more Pakistanis. If you think this will stop immigration from the 3rs world or break the control of the London g lobalists think again…..
One of the stories of the night was all the safe Labour districts (Rotherham included, voted Labour 52% in the last two MP elections) that voted Leave with huge margins. I am really interested in margins and differentials, paradoxes and contradictions, in fact, it’s partially how I make a living. Many times, it is in the margins and differentials and within the paradox and contradiction that a moral of the story can be learned. I think there’s a lot to be learned from white English voters that vote Labour all the time yet voted Leave, in spite of their official party admonition. It’s also an opportunity for those who are paying attention.
I think these same kind of people in our own country largely fueled the Trump upset.
That sounds fascinating. What is your educational background and career? Can you give some real world examples of "margins" and "differentials" and how they teach a moral of a story?
I guess sex slavery gangs weren’t the best campaign tactic, LOL
"You" people specialize in missing the point don't you.
When your borders are controlled by Brussels you don't get a say on who you can keep out, because they now want to let in even more Muslim rapists.Replies: @eah
While I regard Brexit as a step in the right direction for the UK, there is no particular reason to mention Rotherham in the context of Brexit. The only reason Rotherham is known to readers here is that Rotherham is where young British girls were notoriously sexually brutalized by “Muslim rapists”, overwhelmingly ethnic Pakistanis, probably the vast majority of whom are UK citizens. All of which had nothing directly to do with the EU.
And leaving the EU is not going to stop more “Muslim rapists” from coming to the UK from Pakistan.
“Sigh.”
2) Merkel's millions
The areas that voted most strongly for Brexit have large populations of Eastern European immigrants, which is somewhat counter to Steve’s narrative, which emphasizes the racial aspect and character of immigration:
More than 75% of voters wanted out.
Boston was also the home town of some of the Mayflower settlers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston,_Lincolnshire#17th_and_18th_centuriesReplies: @Ivy
there weren't many immigrants in eastern England till the EU
if you look elsewhere the biggest leave votes are the towns where the rape gangs have been most active
One post troll, ignore him.
Why are the very wealthy Europeans celebrating? Because the England is now more likely to survive as a safe haven for wealth long-term?
Trump gave Brexit credibility, and now Brexit will give Trump credibility.
Thus are taboos broken.Replies: @Oskar Kokoschka, @SF Griffin
Yes, this also explains why a lefty Brit tried to kill Trump during the campaign.
I don't see any idiots around here.Replies: @Marcus
Yeah, it’s a small step, but one nonetheless. Also “EU immigrants” could include gypsies, Muslims, etc. that are citizens.
Britain and the US are very different countries, but if the Brexiteers can pull this off, I'm inclined to think Trump can too.Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @The Alarmist
Gee, who’s better … the pathological, reckless war criminal with an actual record of death, detruction and mayhem in North Africa and Southwest Asia, or the reckless, naive businessmen who has built a few buildings and created a few jobs?
Ever notice how they like to pimp our women but if we even date theirs then yt?they try to honor kill them, or whatever.
Trump gave Brexit credibility, and now Brexit will give Trump credibility.
Thus are taboos broken.Replies: @Oskar Kokoschka, @SF Griffin
Brexit was always credible*. There has been a movement to leave the EU pretty much since we joined. The Maastrict Treaty caused a huge rebellion amongst Tory MPs against the Tory government and things have organically grown since then.
Trump had somewhere between little and nothing to do with this event. However, you might be right that Trump, as well as Le Pen and other similar leaders and their movements, might very well appear more credible now.
* Is was not credible for establishment dwellers and clingers-on – who have no idea what the people of the country are actually like – but it is really their lack of awareness that was incredible, not Brexit with its many supporters.
Well, the key to stopping a lot of third world immigration is leaving the European Court of Human Rights. It might be possible to do this within the EU, but it is not considered certain that this would not be ruled against EU rules. Also, leaving institutions like the ECHR is almost impossible politically within a status quo of being in the EU.
Thirdly, being in the EU means all EU citizens are able to access the UK. This is not restricted to Bavarians and Italians, but extends to anyone who has immigrated to any of those countries and gained citizenship. It also includes anyone from any country that joins.
https://twitter.com/hbdchick/status/746389719022460928Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @anon
I think the biggest Brexit vote was in Boston, Lincolnshire – an agricultural town with a huge Polish population (nearly all of whom have arrived in the last decade) and which according to the 2011 census has a higher proportion of EU migrants than anywhere else.
More than 75% of voters wanted out.
Boston was also the home town of some of the Mayflower settlers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston,_Lincolnshire#17th_and_18th_centuries
Go on — pull the other one! Next you’ll be telling me that Brexit won’t stop the earth spinning on its axis!
More than 75% of voters wanted out.
Boston was also the home town of some of the Mayflower settlers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston,_Lincolnshire#17th_and_18th_centuriesReplies: @Ivy
Lincolnshire is my ancestral home, and I supported Brexit. Coincidence?
Brexit will speed, not stop the browning of Britain.Replies: @AnotherDad
Nonsense. This referendum wasn’t just a vote on the unelected bureaucrats in Brussels it was also on the larger question of nationhood.
Furthermore, Merkel’s millions after getting EU citizenship in Germany, could then move to Britain, so Britain would have been “browned” from inside the EU. This vote specifically quashes that. So it results in a less brown Britain than you’d get otherwise.
That the job of restoring sovereignty and then sanity is not complete–no argument. But you have to take the first step.
Anyway, I doubt that the UK will actually leave the EU. The elites will find a reason to ignore the result (that is non binding) or to hold another referendum.
No, there isn’t. Enough with this stupid claim.
Best way to predict an election is to actually hold elections. The prediction business is for gambling and entertainment purposes only. Media runs opinion polling as a ‘hook’ to write stories that favor their (mostly) prog-left agenda of globalist One Worldism. If the polling doesn’t give the ‘correct’ results, they create new questions to obtain the desired results–or they change the weighting of the responses. It’s a game–don’t participate in it.
The ‘Bradley’ effect (over indication of support) will probably give way to the ‘Trump’ effect (under indication of support). When The Narrative is loud (must vote for Bradley, neverTrump), polling will not discern what the electorate does in the voting booth.
The EU kind of sucks, but the problem immigrants in the UK are overwhelmingly people that Britain decided to bring in on their own, not people who were entitled to move there by EU citizenship.
Britain isn't part of the Schengen region and has a body of water separating it from Merkel's millions, so they're shielded from the refugee crisis as well.Replies: @wren, @V Vega, @Alec Leamas, @ben tillman, @anon
The UK is Britain (and part of Ireland), not Poland.
Farage isn’t running things, and if he advocates policies like that, he never will.
https://youtu.be/EfK-WX2pa8c
https://youtu.be/bJ9r8LMU9bQReplies: @RolfDan
http://genius.com/The-clash-something-about-england-lyrics
I guess Rotherham’s already up to 32% muslim…
Haters gonna hate.Replies: @22pp22, @gda, @NickG, @Grandpa Jack
I saw a news update on Yahoo about the Brexit, saying it benefits Trump because it shows polls aren’t accurate. I guess we’re supposed to assume it’s fiction that he’s been popular. They should watch out, though, someone else might question what that means if Hillary has been polling higher. They’re really desperately trying anything to smear the man. He should have some guys working on slapping some lawsuits on the more outrageous stuff. May or may not stop it, but they’d certainly be going through some butthurt over it, at least.
The "Commonwealth" is an outdated old white male concept. Do you even know what year this is?Replies: @Grandpa Jack
Well, hopefully now the Pakis will be packin’ their bags instead of packing 13 yr olds
More unemployed on the dole….
Just a reminder: democracy (government) caused the problem in the first place.
Democracy as it is currently practiced by our elites: People vote, and then we do whatever the hell we were going to do anyway.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is not the last word on EU membership for the UK. I believe there have been instances of EU countries holding referenda with nationalist outcomes being told to go back and vote on it again until they get the right answer.
Construction contractors are the same everywhere.
To celebrate this historic vote by the people of Rotherham, I watched the series of videos starting with this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-fBoc-v7sUReplies: @PiltdownMan
Neither craft or hobby is exclusive to either nation, but it crosses my mind that woodworking is a common hobby in the UK, and metalworking is more of a US thing.
Historically, this may be a product of the level of relative affluence of the broad middle-class in each country, or perhaps the educational system. A basic set of woodworking tools is a less expensive proposition than setting up your own metal shop at home.
Also, I think, woodworking was a European country gentleman’s hobby, and a way of signaling alpha maleness traditionally. It was, to them, what being able to fix an automobile was for modern American males until the 1980s.
You would be wrong. See PiltdownMan’s post #8 for the ethnic composition of the town.
Facebook Envy Lures Egyptian Teenagers to Europe and the Migrant LifeReplies: @TheJester
I represented an American company in Saudi Arabia. I had an office assistant from Bangladesh. The assistant had a brother who had immigrated to the United States where “the streets were paved with gold”. He went to visit him in Los Angeles with the idea he might try to follow him.
Reality therapy! He saw first hand that his brother had a dirty, low-paying job in an automotive repair shop. That’s the only work he could find. He worked extremely long hours trying to support his family, barely making ends meet. It was survival, nothing more … although the brother did have a large-screen TV and a cell phone. (Prices at Walmart do make these kinds of dreams possible.) His brother was not happy.
My assistant decided that the “American Dream” was a chimera. There was a serious downside to going to America so that you could acquire a large-screen TV and a cell phone. He decided to stay where he was.
Perhaps a little PR could make this clear to prospective economic immigrants and help stop the flow by exposing the downside to the “streets paved with gold” themes on Facebook. Living in a slum and sweeping the streets in Marseilles is a high price to pay for a large-screen TV and a cell phone … and there are only so many jobs for street sweepers in Marseilles. These jobs are already taken. Same for the low-end jobs in Los Angeles.
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/
stress the system enough and it will crack
somewhere
Brexit maybe gave Trump +2 pts or Le Pen or AfD
or whoever
stress the system
it would be interesting to see results by ethnicity. My guess: muslims don´t vote, westafricans strongly pro-brexit, polish people strongly against brexitReplies: @5371, @anon
Low education Muslims have a very high turnout as they vote by clan.
It’s one of the reasons they are so useful to the Left because other low education groups tend to have very low voter turnout.
I guess DenmarkReplies: @anon
Yes, or Holland.
The EU kind of sucks, but the problem immigrants in the UK are overwhelmingly people that Britain decided to bring in on their own, not people who were entitled to move there by EU citizenship.
Britain isn't part of the Schengen region and has a body of water separating it from Merkel's millions, so they're shielded from the refugee crisis as well.Replies: @wren, @V Vega, @Alec Leamas, @ben tillman, @anon
stress the system
with a bit of luck this result will help Poland avoid Merkel’s millions
The rain lowered turnout in London (which is the only region of England that voted remain)
lolz
I’m guessing you suck at chess.
Partly
– Scotland has had a lot less immigration then England
– anti-English as the leaders of “leave” are English stereotypes
– Scottish independence more likely if England voted one way and Scotland the other
with the first reason most important.
1) Muslim rape gangs
2) Merkel’s millions
https://twitter.com/hbdchick/status/746389719022460928Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @anon
read it again the tweet says “e England” for eastern
there weren’t many immigrants in eastern England till the EU
if you look elsewhere the biggest leave votes are the towns where the rape gangs have been most active
They could already do that in regard to non-EU immigrants.
Furthermore, Merkel's millions after getting EU citizenship in Germany, could then move to Britain, so Britain would have been "browned" from inside the EU. This vote specifically quashes that. So it results in a less brown Britain than you'd get otherwise.
That the job of restoring sovereignty and then sanity is not complete--no argument. But you have to take the first step.Replies: @Pseudonymic Handle
Showing anti immigrant sentiment against poles is far more politically acceptable then showing it against pakistanis, so this was the easy step.
Anyway, I doubt that the UK will actually leave the EU. The elites will find a reason to ignore the result (that is non binding) or to hold another referendum.
Voters thinking that Brexit will stop/ slow down immigration, including from Muslim countries, will be sadly disappointed.
Even Nigel Farage lobbied for immigration from the commonwealth, rather than from Europe. Granted, gypsies are a pest, but they’re not half as rapey as Pakistanis.
Boris Johnson even emphasised that he himself is part Turkish and has no objection to immigration from Turkey.
So far, the French authorities have been quite successful at keeping the Merkel Youth out of Britain – major battle seems to have occurred in Calais earlier this week – but that may not stay so. The French are vindictive.
Also: no matter what, the globalists are still in charge, there is just one layer less of them. Which is good, don’t get me wrong, but it is merely a first victory after decades of crushing losses. And it needs to be rooted out everywhere, in Berlin as much as in London.
Reality therapy! He saw first hand that his brother had a dirty, low-paying job in an automotive repair shop. That's the only work he could find. He worked extremely long hours trying to support his family, barely making ends meet. It was survival, nothing more ... although the brother did have a large-screen TV and a cell phone. (Prices at Walmart do make these kinds of dreams possible.) His brother was not happy.
My assistant decided that the "American Dream" was a chimera. There was a serious downside to going to America so that you could acquire a large-screen TV and a cell phone. He decided to stay where he was.
Perhaps a little PR could make this clear to prospective economic immigrants and help stop the flow by exposing the downside to the "streets paved with gold" themes on Facebook. Living in a slum and sweeping the streets in Marseilles is a high price to pay for a large-screen TV and a cell phone ... and there are only so many jobs for street sweepers in Marseilles. These jobs are already taken. Same for the low-end jobs in Los Angeles.Replies: @Ivy
Immigrants, doing the jobs that the French won’t do. Of course, some of those Marseille street sweeping jobs are in No Go areas, but don’t notice that.
I would also have been joking.
“93.5% White, 4.1% Asian (Pakistanis, Indians, etc.), 0.5% Arab or other, with the rest being Black or Mixed.”
Only about 4%, and still they managed to cause all that trouble. Sounds like a good reason to prevent their numbers from increasing any further.
“Just a reminder: democracy (government) caused the problem in the first place.”
Democracy as it is currently practiced by our elites: People vote, and then we do whatever the hell we were going to do anyway.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this is not the last word on EU membership for the UK. I believe there have been instances of EU countries holding referenda with nationalist outcomes being told to go back and vote on it again until they get the right answer.
Correct. Yorkshire folk aren’t known for being the sharpest tools in the box – less box, more tool.
If my facebook / twitter feed is anything to go by… None. To me this is just another example of White working class men being easy dupes for cucks of the Elite.
George Soros is alleged to have heavily supported the Remain party, and yet Soros himself might have made the Brexit more likely. The attack on the Pound (led by Soros) in 1990 dissuaded Britain from adopting the Euro. Had Britain adopted the Euro and if they had it now, it might have been far less likely that the English would have voted to Leave.
Yorkshire Pit Donkeys have been bred as tough, stubborn mules who can hammer coal long hours day after day; they are famously not bright or aware of the subtler undercurrents.
I think these same kind of people in our own country largely fueled the Trump upset.Replies: @Anonymous
am really interested in margins and differentials, paradoxes and contradictions, in fact, it’s partially how I make a living. Many times, it is in the margins and differentials and within the paradox and contradiction that a moral of the story can be learned.
That sounds fascinating. What is your educational background and career? Can you give some real world examples of “margins” and “differentials” and how they teach a moral of a story?
Muslims come from the EU.
Yes, and the same experience was had by the population of metropolitan Chicago, innundated with Polish immigrants at the end of the Cold War in the ’90s and title to second most populous Polish city, until the Poles flooded London after Poland’s admission to the EU in ’04. Crooks abound in the Polish trades. The first wave did in fact have skilled European tradesman trained as journeymen, but as time went on, every Pawel was a contractor. When the vodka abuse effected their judgement, or the payments on the his and hers BMW’s became unmanageable after the $350K mortgage, Pawel & Co. would escape legal reprimand by f’n off back to Poland. The white vans still dominate the streets of my neighborhood, but their numbers were culled greatly by the recession. I should mention that my (real) surname ends in -ski. My problem with a subset of Poles is that they are materialistic to the point of amorality. Poles interviewed by the-albeit biased-BBC regarding Brexit were all for REMAIN. Their self-interest knows no bounds. For the middle-aged Pole, the deprivations of Communism have addled their Catholic morality. Cheers.
I was born and grew up in Rotherham. At the time it was a thriving industrial town – steel and coal. Then Thatcher came along. We all knew that coal in Britain did not have a long future but Thatcher shut it down without demur, and did sod all for the miners. It was a similar story with steel. The town centre with its wonderful parish church and All Saints Square surrounded by small shops and pubs had a Dickensian look. It has been replaced by cheap stores and and enormous TV screen – with no aesthetic value. The people of Rotherham now have to go elsewhere to do their shopping. The heart has been ripped out of Rotherham.
The response of the Thatcherite government to the unemployment was to tell people to move South to jobs in finance and services, causing massive family disruption and many of England’s more recent housing and water problems. South Yorkshire had a wonderful public transport system – Thatcher forced it to be privatized and “pay its way” whatever that means. The people of Rotherham have seen Thatcherite and Blairite governments come and go and they know that none of these slimy politicians speak for them – the under-employed who live in the post-industrial deserts of England. There was no pork-barrelling as there is in the US to buy votes. The Tories didn’t need them – they had stitched up the electoral map after the great southern migration – and New Labour knew the people of Rotherham had no choice.
Brexit was the opportunity to stick it to the politicians and they did. If they had had leaders they could believe spoke for them, as the Scots did, they would have followed, but the post-industrial North of England has no definable political boundaries to separate it from the rest of England. I believe that much of the North would go with Scotland – certainly the SNP is more in tune with the people of Scotland than any of the major political parties of England is with the people of Rotherham. This vote was not about racism – you will not get a warmer welcome as a stranger than in the pubs of Rotherham – except insofar as those already having difficulties finding jobs saw yet another threat to their livelihood. It was about the ambitions and failures of politicians.
One step at a time. Maybe we want to do you slowly.
ot–steve hsu points to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Cummings, the mastermind of the vote leave campaign, very interesting:
http://infoproc.blogspot.de/2016/06/brexit-victory-over-hollow-men.html
http://infoproc.blogspot.de/2014/10/the-hollow-men.html
dominic is an uk politics’ insider and an overall smart guy