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Meanwhile, from the Washington Post’s health news page:

The junk science Republicans used to undermine Ford and help save Kavanaugh

By Avi Selk October 7 at 3:09 PM

The politically convenient, scientifically baseless theory that sexual assault so traumatized Christine Blasey Ford she mixed up her attacker is now something like common wisdom for many Republicans.

 
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  1. • LOL: Svigor
    • Replies: @Lot
    FDA is cracking down this year on people taking their pets' prescription opiates.
    , @El Dato
    Can a cat even handle SSRIs mean for humans? Isn't that like getting drinks mixed up at the Mos Eisley Cantina?
  2. This was a very silly “fight fire with fire” response to the circus. The right response is to treat them like misbehaved two year olds: not give insane allegations room to breathe.

  3. Thinking people understand that Miss Blasey collaborated with her FBI “beach friend” Miss McLean to construct a pretty feeble defamatory hoax with the goal of derailing the Kavanaugh nomination.

    Politicians pretend to “find Miss Blasey credible”, but that is merely a political ruse to avoid being shrieked at by feminist harpies.

    But nobody really believes her anymore. Note how quickly Miss Blasey indicated her unwillingness to support the impeachment fantasies of the fever swamp left.

    • Agree: NickG, Travis, Marat
    • Replies: @anon
    I don't think credible is what people meant. I think it her testimony evoked empathy from listeners. Even if it didn't, people can't say it without seeming callous.


    A lifetime of trauma from spectacularly unsuccessful attempted sexual assault is 'unspeakable' but intuitive.
    , @JimB

    But nobody really believes her anymore. Note how quickly Miss Blasey indicated her unwillingness to support the impeachment fantasies of the fever swamp left.
     
    It's just as well for Blasey Ford to lay low, now. She sprang three perjury traps, and her letter to the judiciary committee may have been co-authored or ghost written by Monica McLean. With any luck, Ford will be allowed slip back into obscurity without being prosecuted.

    I wonder if donations to her GoFundMe page have tapered off.
    , @MG
    The reason she indicated no further interest in pursuing Kavanaugh could also be she realized she’s in deep doo-doo, that Grassley & co may have incriminating evidence she lied.
    , @Olorin
    As first anon said, many people confuse "credibility" with "she givz me feelz."

    From a reporting or comms perspective it's akin to the phenomenon in social "sciences" research where we refer to statistical reliability and validity. Those terms have a specific technical meaning, framed in quantitative testing. By contrast, to the average person, "these findings are reliable and valid" means something more instinctive and emotive.

    I flashed to one of the Black's Law Dictionary minnows that swim in the sea of my brain:

    Competency is for the court; credibility for the jury.
     
    The left/MSM played this whole matter as reality TV, where their targeted viewers were the jury. The politicians you refer to are aligning with this.

    From Black's:

    COMPETENCY. In the law of evidence. The presence of those characteristics, or the absence of those disabilities, which render a witness legally fit and qualified to give testimony in a court of justice. The term is also applied, in the same sense, to documents or other written evidence. Competency differs from credibility. The former is a question which arises before considering the evidence given by the witness; the latter concerns the degree of credit to be given to his story. The former denotes the personal qualification of the witness; the latter his veracity. A witness may be competent, and yet give incredible testimony; he may be incompetent, and yet his evidence, if received, be perfectly credible. Competency is for the court; credibility for the jury. Yet in some cases the term "credible" is used as an equivalent for "competent." Thus, in a statute relating to the execution of wills, the term "credible witness" is held to mean one who is entitled to be examined and to give evidence. In a court of justice; not necessarily one who is personally worthy of belief, but one who is not disqualified by imbecility, interest, crime, or other cause. 1 Jarm. Wills, 124; Smith v. Jones. OS Vt 132, 34 Atl. 424; Com. v. Holmes, 127 Mass. 424, 34 Am. Rep. 301.
     
    Now test Blasey against that in your own mind.
  4. Anonymous [AKA "riterray hitrer"] says:

    (((Avi Selk))) – every fucking time…. And I’m Jewish! I love my peeps, and my heart grieves for their leftist indocrination

    • Replies: @22pp22
    I wish to God more of you would come over to our side for your sake as well as ours. There won't be any Jews in England when it goes Islamic - at least not live ones.
    , @Ragno
    Y' beat me to it......still, let us fervently hope that every day the number of Americans scanning bylines for presence of Tribe is climbing exponentially (well, I can hope that- you maybe, not so much).

    Zei gezunt, my friend.
    , @Desiderius
    Y'all have leaned (way) left for a hundred years. This transparently mercenary dipshittery is entirely new.
  5. Here’s something I haven’t seen addressed – wasn’t Ford dating Kavanaugh’s friend at the time? Even if you assume the worst about Kavanaugh – isn’t raping / assaulting your friend’s girlfriend a bad idea, just from a purely logical perspective, setting aside all bounds of morality?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Here’s something I haven’t seen addressed – wasn’t Ford dating Kavanaugh’s friend at the time? Even if you assume the worst about Kavanaugh – isn’t raping / assaulting your friend’s girlfriend a bad idea, just from a purely logical perspective, setting aside all bounds of morality?
     
    That just proves how truly sick and evil and he is.
    , @El Dato
    Not if the friend likes to watch while smoking a cuban cigar.

    As Professor Frord says:

    "Sometimes a cigar is just indication that you have been so traumatized about a non-penetrative non-rape that you mix up the persons who were doing the deed."
    , @notanon

    wasn’t Ford dating Kavanaugh’s friend at the time?
     
    it's the backdrop of "Officer and a Gentleman"

    girl from lower social class trying to land chad from higher social class through slooting (which almost never works) - she's still bitter about him *not* wanting her
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    Unless dating codes have undergone a massive overhaul, the boyfriend is the first person an Outrag'd Maiden would tell.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Dicksee-Chivalry-1885.jpg/220px-Dicksee-Chivalry-1885.jpg
  6. And then, there’s the case of Ronald Cotton, falsely accused of rape on the basis of eyewitness testimony.

    The woman who accused him made every effort to study the perpetrator’s face while he was assaulting her, “just trying to pay attention to a detail, so that if I survived…I’d be able to help the police catch him” and presumably burning his image into her hippocampus or wherever. She ID’d him twice and was 100% sure she had the right man. Unlike Ford, she was not drinking alcohol, she was a fully grown adult, there was no 30+ year time gap before she ever uttered a name to anyone, there were no group of people with her who have no idea what she was talking about. And she was still wrong. But that didn’t prevent Cotton from spending over a decade in prison (before DNA definitely proved it was the guy who had confessed about the rape to a cellmate).

    On the one hand, Cotton was a stranger, and he was black (which can make identification by whites harder), and that needs to be taken into account. On the other hand, there are all the other complications I just mentioned that her case lacked, not to mention the most important one about rape produces memories that are indelible and therefore are not to be questioned.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    That's different, as the WaPo editorial board will tell you.
    , @Anonymous
    Exactly. It’s widely known among those who work in the area that eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable. You maybe remember some details that are particularly salient some which happened to catch your eye, like maybe someone’s haircut or gold tooth or skin color and your brain fills in lots of uncertainty. And you may be someone who feels they are 100% right but studies show that no you aren’t. People do resemble each other in many ways and what someone is so certain about often may not be correct. And we’re talking about people earnestly trying to remember a crime here that undoubtedly occurred and not that long after it happened, not a convenient character attack 36 years later. The mind wants peace, closure, wants someone to receive punishment as justice to maintain their views of the world and to psychologically move on. Plenty of women seem to be driven by emotions over logic and some have a tendency towards scapegoating people who are convenient targets to ‘resolve’ problems.
    , @E e
    Have there been studies regarding the reliability of line-ups? Specifically, how often will someone identify someone from the line-ups even when the actual person isn't there? When I was about 10, some guy in a car (I want to say "van", but that might be my memory adjusting to a popular narrative...) offered me a ride, and I said "no" and ran home like I'd learned. My mom called the police, and I gave them a vague description and they came back some time later with a set of photos. I said none of them looked like the guy. I honestly don't know how often people would say nobody looks right, and it seems like psychologically there'd be pressure to just pick one... Once you've done that, it would probably be natural to convince yourself that you weren't just guessing...
  7. Still gets me that her “hippocampus” commentary came on the heels of her ignorance of “exculpatory”. What a piece of work. What I’d most like to see is her defense team (if not her too) catch official flak for her testifying that she didn’t know that Senate Judiciary Cmte aides were willing to go to California to interview her. Hell, the offer was widely reported in the wake of her “fear of flying” (more unadulterated bullshit of hers). These leftists need to endure substantial blowback.

    • Agree: Dave Pinsen
    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Had the same thought at the time.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1045341335123898369?s=21
    , @TheBoom
    Blowback is not a Republican thing. Even Trump is not into it so the Democrats never need to learn. Trump is off looking for the next issue to tweet about
  8. The politically convenient, scientifically baseless theory that sexual assault so traumatized Christine Blasey Ford she mixed up her attacker is now something like common wisdom for many Republicans.

    Yes, this theory is junk science.

    Which means of course that she lied through her teeth.

    • Replies: @Wally
    The Nutty Professor:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/images/bucket/2018-10/209519_5_.jpg
  9. Anon[885] • Disclaimer says:

    Not only was she annoyingly trying to impress everyone with her overeducation — she was also wrong. The hippocampus isn’t used to store long-term memories, but merely to catalyze the retrieval process.

    Since the early neurological work of Karl Lashley and Wilder Penfield in the 1950s and 1960s, it has become clear that long-term memories are not stored in just one part of the brain, but are widely distributed throughout the cortex. After consolidation, long-term memories are stored throughout the brain as groups of neurons that are primed to fire together in the same pattern that created the original experience, and each component of a memory is stored in the brain area that initiated it (e.g. groups of neurons in the visual cortex store a sight, neurons in the amygdala store the associated emotion, etc).

    http://www.human-memory.net/processes_storage.html

    But hey, she used a big word so she must be smart.

    • Replies: @Paul F
    It's worse than that. Current scientific literature on PTSD indicates that traumatic experiences actually damage the hippocampus by repeated overstimulation of the amygdala. In other words, unless/until the memory is properly integrated, the sensory/emotional intensity of the memory will continue to grow while actual recall becomes progressively worse. The limitations of memory, in general, and the neurological effects of PTSD, specifically, are very well-known.

    In fact, they are so well-known that a "research psychologist" like Ford, who has actually done serious work in the field, couldn't possibly not know these things. Which means that when she rattled off that psychobabble about being "indelibly burned into the hippocampus" (or whatever her exact words were), she was not just trying to sound smart - she was straight-up lying, using her academic credentials to give weight to the lie.

    If she'd had a traumatic experience, and tried to suppress the memory for over 30 years, then it is absolutely possible it would end up mangled, confused with much later events and generally full of holes and contradictions. If she'd simply stuck to her story, I might be tempted to believe the memory-loss explanation, which is definitely not junk science - the media is gaslighting us as usual there. But since she went so far beyond that, spewed incoherent jargon and tried to incorporate other things like the second front door, I can't believe the easy explanation.

    This very point of contention is what proves beyond a doubt that she was lying. Perhaps she did get abused at some point, but it's irrelevant; she perjured herself when she donned the mantle of a psychology expert and provided "scientific" explanations she clearly must have known to be false. That is why it's so important for the media to gaslight us - because that's the clearest evidence of her criminal intentions.
  10. Sounds about as sound as Descartes’ theory that there is a homunculus (“little man”) in the hippocampus (or maybe it was the pineal gland) that watches re-runs of old experiences on a tiny mental screen. In Ford’s case, I guess the homunculus got the tapes mixed up.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homunculus_argument

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @El Dato
    Totally not at all.

    Memory formation is very physical process of imperfect storage / imperfect retrieval (with holes filled in pragmatically with whatever fits) involving the hippocampal region, though how it actually works is still not well elucidated. AFAIK there is no model covering all the cranky phenomena that have been classified over decades.
  11. I don’t think Republicans run with the idea Ford was traumatized. She made it all up.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    No, Avi Selk made it up. She’d never sully herself by talking to an unclean Republican.
  12. Hey Steve, I hope you post something about Jair Bolsonaro!

    Joke: “Mass immigration will turn the United States into Brazil.”
    Woke: “Don’t you wish.”

  13. So if she didn’t misremember, I guess she was just lying. Imagine my shock.

  14. @Space Ghost
    Here's something I haven't seen addressed - wasn't Ford dating Kavanaugh's friend at the time? Even if you assume the worst about Kavanaugh - isn't raping / assaulting your friend's girlfriend a bad idea, just from a purely logical perspective, setting aside all bounds of morality?

    Here’s something I haven’t seen addressed – wasn’t Ford dating Kavanaugh’s friend at the time? Even if you assume the worst about Kavanaugh – isn’t raping / assaulting your friend’s girlfriend a bad idea, just from a purely logical perspective, setting aside all bounds of morality?

    That just proves how truly sick and evil and he is.

  15. OT Bolsonaro
    The presidential results won’t be known until counting is complete in all of Brazil’s states, which span time zones, but in-state results (governor, senator) show Bolsonaro’s party winning across the board.
    It’s similar to the Trump election in terms of willfully deceptive push-polls. Dilma Rousseff (who is a very rough equivalent to Hillary Clinton) lost badly after being expected to become a senator, and rightists are winning in contests where they were supposed to place third. Lying about polling and affecting outrage at offensive statements were deployed in Brazil to comparable (or greater unintended) effect, but accusations of sexual misconduct were swapped out with stabbing. A more masculine country: “Nobody will mind if he pulls on the side, better get a knife.”

  16. I don’t know, seems like there have been quite a few cases of people having false memories. How many men have had dna tests exonerate them, cases involving eye witnesses? Looks to me like Slek is using a very narrow definition of false memory as a sort false equivencly. Purposefully misleading and in bad faith.

  17. @Steve in Greensboro
    Thinking people understand that Miss Blasey collaborated with her FBI "beach friend" Miss McLean to construct a pretty feeble defamatory hoax with the goal of derailing the Kavanaugh nomination.

    Politicians pretend to "find Miss Blasey credible", but that is merely a political ruse to avoid being shrieked at by feminist harpies.

    But nobody really believes her anymore. Note how quickly Miss Blasey indicated her unwillingness to support the impeachment fantasies of the fever swamp left.

    I don’t think credible is what people meant. I think it her testimony evoked empathy from listeners. Even if it didn’t, people can’t say it without seeming callous.

    A lifetime of trauma from spectacularly unsuccessful attempted sexual assault is ‘unspeakable’ but intuitive.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    anon[335] wrote:

    I don’t think credible is what people meant. I think it her testimony evoked empathy from listeners. Even if it didn’t, people can’t say it without seeming callous.
     
    Yeah. People also meant that based on her testimony alone, she might well have been telling the truth. I.e., it was not obvious from her demeanor, etc., that she was lying.

    I found her demeanor a bit odd, but I know too much about humans' inability to judge others' truthfulness by merely observing them for me to believe that I could tell whether she or Kavanaugh was telling the truth.

    After all, if we were really good at judging other people's truthfulness, then actors, politicians, and con artists would not be able to earn a living.

    I still do not know what, if anything, happened. I know she lied about the supposed fear of flying, and I know that Kavanaugh drank too much as an adolescent. And, I know that the corroborating evidence that might have existed doesn't.

    So, I can't accept setting the precedent of ruining a person's life due to allegations that cannot be corroborated. That could destroy a society.
  18. Hey Kavanaugh! Keep your rosaries off my ovaries!

    • Replies: @Joe Walker
    This sums up the whole anti-Kavanaugh circus. The Left want to preserve abortion at all costs but they know that a significant proportion of Americans are against it and so they concoct this whole rape nonsense as a way to undermine an anti-abortion candidate for the Supreme Court. For the Left, being against abortion is as bad as being a rapist.
    , @AnotherDad

    Hey Kavanaugh! Keep your rosaries off my ovaries!
     
    Hey lefties, keep your hysteria out of my area!
  19. The idea that Ford is right about the assault and wrong about the assaulter is far less likely than her being right or wrong about both. But this has become the default GOP position because they’re too cowardly to either call her a liar or admit they don’t care even if it’s true.

    What the GOP has done has angered many he REAL Americans

    We see the evil and the lies

    We are going to slaughter you fools in the midterms and then impeach kavsnaugh and trump

    Read Leonard Pitts and Matthew Dowd

    • LOL: Desiderius, Bubba
    • Replies: @Anonymous

    The idea that Ford is right about the assault and wrong about the assaulter is far less likely than her being right or wrong about both. But this has become the default GOP position because they’re too cowardly to either call her a liar or admit they don’t care even if it’s true.
     
    Nice cut and paste straight off of twitter there. I commend your ability to either right click on a mouse or use CTRL-C and CTRL-V. https://twitter.com/ericuman/status/1048955501332111360

    Was the rest of it an attempt at poetry? Some bastardized form of haiku?
    , @gregor
    “But this has become the default GOP position because they’re too cowardly to either call her a liar or admit they don’t care even if it’s true.”

    Lol, this part is actually pretty much true.

    Probably the right strategy though. They knew the case was weak, so not much upside in being too aggressive. They were so nervous about coming off as insensitive they brought in a woman to do the cross and seemingly told her to go easy.
    , @Redneck farmer
    I have to admit Leonard "Emmet Till" Pitts taking a White woman's rape accusation at face value is amusing.
    , @Pat Boyle
    There may be a silver lining here. After watching every night one black person after another testify falsely to the news cameras in Ferguson - I found I no longer believed anything a black person said. I just couldn't credit any opinion or testimony about anything if if were spoken from a black face. I know there must be some black somewhere who has spoken the truth about something sometime. But after Ferguson I couldn't make myself listen seriously to anything any black said.

    Steve's recent twitter poll shows that most of the readership think she was simply lying. Me too.

    The Democrats had trumpeted their willingness to do anything to block Kavanaugh. I also believe them. They seem to have created this false narrative. In the near future we may learn how Democrat operatives recruited Ford and coached her. That may explain why there were so many holes in her story. It was just specific enough to elicit sympathy but not specific enough that it could be used in a perjury charge against her. The FBI could not possibly conclude that no such event took place. If she had said that it had taken place on a specific date at a specific address it would be easy to falsify the story with some contravening evidence. But by making it so vague - Ford is immune from prosecution.

    But America has seen her and will remember. Some time in the future at a weak rape trial where the major evidence against some man is just the woman's word, someone in the jury room will remember the Ford-Kavanaugh case.

    All over America guys are today less likely to believe a woman's testimony than they once were. Just as our assumptions about black male entertainers were forever changed by O.J. Simpson and Bill Cosby.
  20. @candid_observer

    The politically convenient, scientifically baseless theory that sexual assault so traumatized Christine Blasey Ford she mixed up her attacker is now something like common wisdom for many Republicans.
     
    Yes, this theory is junk science.

    Which means of course that she lied through her teeth.

    The Nutty Professor:

    • Replies: @Prester John
    She's starting to look like the Empress of Chappaqua after having polished off two bottles of chardonnay.
  21. Look, most just don’t care what happened 36 years ago. And we are sick of feminists. Sorry it may be petty but my knee jerk reaction is that I don’t believe you.

    Far be it for me to suggest teenagers shouldn’t attend unsupervised mixed-sex drinking parties in the first place. Both behaved badly.

    • Replies: @Alden
    The 3 witnesses Ford mentioned all had their attorneys write letters to the Juduciary committte that they had no recollection of attending such a party with Kavanauugh and Ford

    One of the so called witnessesstated she never met kavanaugh

    And it wasn’t a party. In her first lying letter to her Congress critter she claimed it was a party. Then she changed her mind. By the time of the hearing she claimed only 5 people went to the empty house of a stranger went right upstairs to a bedroom and kavanaugh attacked her. The 3 people she claimed were there all deny it.
    , @Alden
    The 3 witnesses Ford mentioned all had their attorneys write letters to the Juduciary committte that they had no recollection of attending such a party with Kavanauugh and Ford

    One of the so called witnesses stated she never met kavanaugh

    And it wasn’t a party. In her first lying letter to her Congress critter she claimed it was a party. Then she changed her mind. By the time of the hearing she claimed only 5 people went to the empty house of a stranger went right upstairs to a bedroom and kavanaugh attacked her. The 3 people she claimed were there all deny it.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Both behaved badly.
     
    Kavanaugh wasn't there.
  22. The first five YouTube results for “christine blasey ford hippocampus”:

    TIME: Science Behind Christine Blasey Ford’s Testimony: ‘Indelible In The Hippocampus Is Laughter’

    ABC News: Ford cites hippocampus in recollection of alleged assault

    CBS News: Christine Blasey Ford says she remembers “uproarious laughter” of alleged attackers

    USA TODAY: Christine Ford breaks down her trauma with science

    Washington Post: How Christine Blasey Ford used science to defend her allegations

    • Replies: @bomag

    ‘Indelible In The Hippocampus Is Laughter’
     
    "I feared for my life; I was sexually assaulted; but the REALLY bad thing was the laughter."
    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    larry-

    Your YT results are a perfect example of what I call, "scientism," or sometimes, "science-ism."

    Scientism is yet another one of the unfortunate secular faiths that has developed during the past few decades of far-left cultural dominance.
    , @gregor
    They should have made her pick Kavanaugh’s laughter out of a lineup.
  23. > … is now something like common wisdom for many Republicans.

    It is? Who are Avi Selk’s many Republicans? Did she consult the same people as Stephen Glass?

    Ms. Selk, it’s more polite to offer Dr. Blasey Ford this excuse than to assert that she surely made her accusation for Other Reason X. Many Republicans weren’t at the fabled party 35, 36, or 37 years ago. They also realize that they don’t live in Dr. Blasey Ford’s head. Do you?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Just more blood libel from some dipshit JAP in the NYT. Ho hum.
    , @SND
    Avi is a man's name. Avi is a man. Don't you have any Israeli friends?
    , @Karl
    24 ic1000 > Who are Avi Selk’s many Republicans? Did she

    well, Avi is a male name

    it's sort of unfashionable nowadays.

    American Jews seldom are on top of actual contemporary social trends in Israel. It's because they're too fucking lazy to learn Hebrew.

    Not surprising that "Avi" is of the same ilk. "Journalism" courses are a straight-up joke. The career field is only suited to retarded children.

    Furthermore, the English-language media in Israel is 99% focused on the lucrative industry of separating American Jews from their money.
  24. @Altai
    https://www.wikihow.com/images/thumb/d/dc/Stop-a-Male-Cat-from-Spraying-Step-11.jpg/aid1675602-v4-900px-Stop-a-Male-Cat-from-Spraying-Step-11.jpg

    FDA is cracking down this year on people taking their pets’ prescription opiates.

  25. @ic1000
    > ... is now something like common wisdom for many Republicans.

    It is? Who are Avi Selk’s many Republicans? Did she consult the same people as Stephen Glass?

    Ms. Selk, it’s more polite to offer Dr. Blasey Ford this excuse than to assert that she surely made her accusation for Other Reason X. Many Republicans weren’t at the fabled party 35, 36, or 37 years ago. They also realize that they don’t live in Dr. Blasey Ford’s head. Do you?

    Just more blood libel from some dipshit JAP in the NYT. Ho hum.

    • Replies: @Lot
    "JAP"

    https://www.dmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Avi_Selk.jpg

    http://www.chicagonow.com/listing-beyond-forty/files/2015/03/austin-powers-a-man-baby-300x259.jpg
  26. Junk science is better than junk justice.

  27. @Anonymous
    (((Avi Selk))) - every fucking time.... And I'm Jewish! I love my peeps, and my heart grieves for their leftist indocrination

    I wish to God more of you would come over to our side for your sake as well as ours. There won’t be any Jews in England when it goes Islamic – at least not live ones.

    • Replies: @Glaivester
    Well, I'm rooting for Seth Grossman to win in New Jersey CD-2 - as long a shot as it appears to be.
    , @Joe Walker
    Jews are only ever on one side - their own. Jews would support any policy that was good for them even if it led to the extinction of every gentile on earth.
  28. @Steve in Greensboro
    Thinking people understand that Miss Blasey collaborated with her FBI "beach friend" Miss McLean to construct a pretty feeble defamatory hoax with the goal of derailing the Kavanaugh nomination.

    Politicians pretend to "find Miss Blasey credible", but that is merely a political ruse to avoid being shrieked at by feminist harpies.

    But nobody really believes her anymore. Note how quickly Miss Blasey indicated her unwillingness to support the impeachment fantasies of the fever swamp left.

    But nobody really believes her anymore. Note how quickly Miss Blasey indicated her unwillingness to support the impeachment fantasies of the fever swamp left.

    It’s just as well for Blasey Ford to lay low, now. She sprang three perjury traps, and her letter to the judiciary committee may have been co-authored or ghost written by Monica McLean. With any luck, Ford will be allowed slip back into obscurity without being prosecuted.

    I wonder if donations to her GoFundMe page have tapered off.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

    She sprang three perjury traps, and her letter to the judiciary committee may have been co-authored or ghost written by Monica McLean. With any luck, Ford will be allowed slip back into obscurity without being prosecuted.
     
    Blase Ford needs to be prosecuted for perjury. McLean needs to be prosecuted for witness tampering.
  29. Best title ever!

    • Agree: slumber_j
  30. The “junk science” I guess is the notion of mistaken identity. It’s actually highly plausible. Because of that, it caused SJWs to go batty with rage. Thanks Ed Whelan. Only he shouldn’t have suggested the actual perp might have been Kavanaugh’s friend at the alleged party. Keep it amorphous. Someone, somewhere assaulted her and she mistakenly remembers BK doing it. As we saw, that argument — respecting Ford’s experience while exonerating BK — won the day.

  31. @HA
    And then, there's the case of Ronald Cotton, falsely accused of rape on the basis of eyewitness testimony.

    The woman who accused him made every effort to study the perpetrator’s face while he was assaulting her, "just trying to pay attention to a detail, so that if I survived…I’d be able to help the police catch him" and presumably burning his image into her hippocampus or wherever. She ID'd him twice and was 100% sure she had the right man. Unlike Ford, she was not drinking alcohol, she was a fully grown adult, there was no 30+ year time gap before she ever uttered a name to anyone, there were no group of people with her who have no idea what she was talking about. And she was still wrong. But that didn't prevent Cotton from spending over a decade in prison (before DNA definitely proved it was the guy who had confessed about the rape to a cellmate).

    On the one hand, Cotton was a stranger, and he was black (which can make identification by whites harder), and that needs to be taken into account. On the other hand, there are all the other complications I just mentioned that her case lacked, not to mention the most important one about rape produces memories that are indelible and therefore are not to be questioned.

    That’s different, as the WaPo editorial board will tell you.

  32. @Space Ghost
    Here's something I haven't seen addressed - wasn't Ford dating Kavanaugh's friend at the time? Even if you assume the worst about Kavanaugh - isn't raping / assaulting your friend's girlfriend a bad idea, just from a purely logical perspective, setting aside all bounds of morality?

    Not if the friend likes to watch while smoking a cuban cigar.

    As Professor Frord says:

    “Sometimes a cigar is just indication that you have been so traumatized about a non-penetrative non-rape that you mix up the persons who were doing the deed.”

  33. @Sergeant Prepper
    Sounds about as sound as Descartes' theory that there is a homunculus ("little man") in the hippocampus (or maybe it was the pineal gland) that watches re-runs of old experiences on a tiny mental screen. In Ford's case, I guess the homunculus got the tapes mixed up.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homunculus_argument

    Totally not at all.

    Memory formation is very physical process of imperfect storage / imperfect retrieval (with holes filled in pragmatically with whatever fits) involving the hippocampal region, though how it actually works is still not well elucidated. AFAIK there is no model covering all the cranky phenomena that have been classified over decades.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Memory formation is very physical process of imperfect storage / imperfect retrieval (with holes filled in pragmatically with whatever fits)
     
    Did you 'remember' that? How do you know? Why should we believe you when you think "Memory formation is very physical process of imperfect storage / imperfect retrieval (with holes filled in pragmatically with whatever fits)"?

    Asking for a friend (tm).
  34. “Which means of course that she lied through her teeth”

    Yeah, obviously the Republicans made a tactical decision that it would be better to argue that she’s mistaken than to argue that she’s a liar. I would have some sympathy for the argument if the Democrats refrained from gamesmanship themselves.

  35. @ic1000
    > ... is now something like common wisdom for many Republicans.

    It is? Who are Avi Selk’s many Republicans? Did she consult the same people as Stephen Glass?

    Ms. Selk, it’s more polite to offer Dr. Blasey Ford this excuse than to assert that she surely made her accusation for Other Reason X. Many Republicans weren’t at the fabled party 35, 36, or 37 years ago. They also realize that they don’t live in Dr. Blasey Ford’s head. Do you?

    Avi is a man’s name. Avi is a man. Don’t you have any Israeli friends?

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    It's also an obsolete video file format.

    I don't have any Israeli friends, but a mischling friend of mine and I had the following exchange last night:

    Mischling: "Who was that Jewish guy who went to UM and played for the Dolphins? Had a name that started with K?"

    Someone Else: "Kosar."

    Mischling: "Kosar! That's right? What was his first name? It had an -e sound at the end. Maury, maybe?"

    Stan Adams: "Bernie."

    Mischling: "Bernie! That's right! Bernie Kosar! He's broke now, isn't he? He opened up a few restaurants and he ended up losing all his money."

    Stan Adams (after poking around on his cell phone): "It turns out that he's not Jewish. Kosar is a Hungarian name. He's Catholic."

    Mischling: "So he's not Jewish? No wonder he ended up going broke! [Uproarious laughter]"

    Stan Adams: "Yeah, he's just another goyische kop."

    I don't think the mischling heard me - he was still laughing pretty loudly. So I guess I got away with that one.
    , @kaganovitch
    It can also be short for Avigayil (Hebrew Abigael), though in this case it's not. Avi is a guy.
    , @J.Ross
    A lot of Israeli names are "reversible."
  36. @Altai
    https://www.wikihow.com/images/thumb/d/dc/Stop-a-Male-Cat-from-Spraying-Step-11.jpg/aid1675602-v4-900px-Stop-a-Male-Cat-from-Spraying-Step-11.jpg

    Can a cat even handle SSRIs mean for humans? Isn’t that like getting drinks mixed up at the Mos Eisley Cantina?

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    I've posted this before, but I think it's worth revisiting:

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/84/3a/99/843a997847b7536f93451ed51724f137.jpg
  37. @Dan Smith
    I don't think Republicans run with the idea Ford was traumatized. She made it all up.

    No, Avi Selk made it up. She’d never sully herself by talking to an unclean Republican.

  38. @Desiderius
    Just more blood libel from some dipshit JAP in the NYT. Ho hum.

    “JAP”

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    I stand by my statement.
    , @Buster Keaton's Stunt Double
    A good rule of thumb would be to not start up a writing career in a country where your name can easily be mistaken for a woman's (unless you plan on pounding out romance novels).
  39. Enquiring Minds want to know why TeamChrissy ultimately went with the Anita Hill blue suit instead of her white lab coat?

    • LOL: Carol
  40. Say something phony, far more polite than shitlib deserves in effort to be nice, hear shitlibs pick it apart.

    Don’t be nice to shitlibs.

  41. @El Dato
    Can a cat even handle SSRIs mean for humans? Isn't that like getting drinks mixed up at the Mos Eisley Cantina?

    I’ve posted this before, but I think it’s worth revisiting:

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Okay that's pretty funny.

    But why post now?

    Wait, "hippocampus", right?

    #CurrentYearHaiku
    , @El Dato
    oowwwww .... I hippocamped that up from MAD Magazine ... the school busses ... the girls ... the rain ... the hazing ... the sunsets after school (no rape)

    You owe me a Remembrance Beer.
    , @the one they call Desanex
    I’m pretty sure Sergio Aragones stole the idea from an article in the May 1971 issue of National Lampoon, “Toilets of the Extraterrestrials” by Peter Bramley.
  42. @Anon
    Not only was she annoyingly trying to impress everyone with her overeducation -- she was also wrong. The hippocampus isn't used to store long-term memories, but merely to catalyze the retrieval process.

    Since the early neurological work of Karl Lashley and Wilder Penfield in the 1950s and 1960s, it has become clear that long-term memories are not stored in just one part of the brain, but are widely distributed throughout the cortex. After consolidation, long-term memories are stored throughout the brain as groups of neurons that are primed to fire together in the same pattern that created the original experience, and each component of a memory is stored in the brain area that initiated it (e.g. groups of neurons in the visual cortex store a sight, neurons in the amygdala store the associated emotion, etc).
     
    http://www.human-memory.net/processes_storage.html

    But hey, she used a big word so she must be smart.

    It’s worse than that. Current scientific literature on PTSD indicates that traumatic experiences actually damage the hippocampus by repeated overstimulation of the amygdala. In other words, unless/until the memory is properly integrated, the sensory/emotional intensity of the memory will continue to grow while actual recall becomes progressively worse. The limitations of memory, in general, and the neurological effects of PTSD, specifically, are very well-known.

    In fact, they are so well-known that a “research psychologist” like Ford, who has actually done serious work in the field, couldn’t possibly not know these things. Which means that when she rattled off that psychobabble about being “indelibly burned into the hippocampus” (or whatever her exact words were), she was not just trying to sound smart – she was straight-up lying, using her academic credentials to give weight to the lie.

    If she’d had a traumatic experience, and tried to suppress the memory for over 30 years, then it is absolutely possible it would end up mangled, confused with much later events and generally full of holes and contradictions. If she’d simply stuck to her story, I might be tempted to believe the memory-loss explanation, which is definitely not junk science – the media is gaslighting us as usual there. But since she went so far beyond that, spewed incoherent jargon and tried to incorporate other things like the second front door, I can’t believe the easy explanation.

    This very point of contention is what proves beyond a doubt that she was lying. Perhaps she did get abused at some point, but it’s irrelevant; she perjured herself when she donned the mantle of a psychology expert and provided “scientific” explanations she clearly must have known to be false. That is why it’s so important for the media to gaslight us – because that’s the clearest evidence of her criminal intentions.

    • Replies: @Marat
    Rachel Mitchell picked up on the bs too:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gKa8ZIwE7g&t=2507s

    Start at 1:01:10 and play to the end.

    Note that Mitchell approaches by first buttering up Ford by re-iterating that Ford had mentioned norepinepherine and epinepherine ... Ford took the bait and hammed it up with the smile and the attorneys chimed in. Mitchell continued by mentioning researchers in the field of child abuse ... oh, Out Of Time!! That is where this seasoned professional was leading, and she barely got it in before the last 5-minute gong. You can be sure that was no coincidence.


    Recall that Mitchell had earlier questioned Ford about who paid for the polygraph, to the great annoyance of the attorneys. Ford skillfully avoided answering by offering up other information with a cutesy smile. Mitchell has seen it all before.

  43. @Space Ghost
    Here's something I haven't seen addressed - wasn't Ford dating Kavanaugh's friend at the time? Even if you assume the worst about Kavanaugh - isn't raping / assaulting your friend's girlfriend a bad idea, just from a purely logical perspective, setting aside all bounds of morality?

    wasn’t Ford dating Kavanaugh’s friend at the time?

    it’s the backdrop of “Officer and a Gentleman”

    girl from lower social class trying to land chad from higher social class through slooting (which almost never works) – she’s still bitter about him *not* wanting her

    • Replies: @TheJester
    I've known women who allege "recovered memories" about sexual assault earlier in their lives. Dr. Ford's description of the alleged assault perfectly fits the phenomenon of "recovered memories": certainty about some aspects of the event wrapped in a complete inability to recall critical elements that would anchor the memories in reality.

    Then, there is the female phenomenon of "rape fantasies". This is the Third Rail in any attempt to dialogue with a feminist. The official feminist ideology is that women do not have "rape fantasies" ... immediately juxtaposed to women who admit having them.

    Indeed, "rape fantasies" are a major theme in the thinly-veiled Cinderella tales found in the popular Harlequin Romance paperbacks. I've found drawers full of them in the bedrooms of some female relatives. The Alpha Male in the typical storyline is so overcome with passion in the presence of the female protagonist that he cannot control himself. This is the climax (NPI) in which the female protagonist is finally assured that she has displaced the evil "princess" competing against her for the "prince's" attention. Another name for this is "bodice ripping". "Bodice ripping" is usually found at the end of a chapter toward the end of the book. The "prince" and his newfound "princess" live happily ever after.

    Christine's "recovered memories" are consistent with fantasies she might have had of trying to capture the attention of an Alpha male in her high school social circle. An angry emotion that she "recovered" and that still haunts her is that she failed.

  44. @Russ
    Still gets me that her "hippocampus" commentary came on the heels of her ignorance of "exculpatory". What a piece of work. What I'd most like to see is her defense team (if not her too) catch official flak for her testifying that she didn't know that Senate Judiciary Cmte aides were willing to go to California to interview her. Hell, the offer was widely reported in the wake of her "fear of flying" (more unadulterated bullshit of hers). These leftists need to endure substantial blowback.

    Had the same thought at the time.

  45. the politically convenient, scientifically baseless theory that sexual assault so traumatized Christine Blasey Ford she mixed up her attacker is now something like common wisdom

    Remember when the common wisdom was that “Jackie”, the alleged victim in the UVA Rape Hoax, was so traumatized by her experience that she could remember neither the name of the chief perpetrator, nor even which frat house it happened at, either the same night, or a year later?

    And how anybody who found that failure of memory implausible was an Evil Rape Apologist?

    It’s funny how scientifically baseless theories can yet be so politically convenient, under the right circumstances.

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/oct/24/rolling-stone-defamation-trial-uva-jackie-testifies

  46. @Russ
    Still gets me that her "hippocampus" commentary came on the heels of her ignorance of "exculpatory". What a piece of work. What I'd most like to see is her defense team (if not her too) catch official flak for her testifying that she didn't know that Senate Judiciary Cmte aides were willing to go to California to interview her. Hell, the offer was widely reported in the wake of her "fear of flying" (more unadulterated bullshit of hers). These leftists need to endure substantial blowback.

    Blowback is not a Republican thing. Even Trump is not into it so the Democrats never need to learn. Trump is off looking for the next issue to tweet about

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Not until now. Too risky with so many internal divisions among Rs. We'll see if things change going forward.
  47. @larry lurker
    The first five YouTube results for "christine blasey ford hippocampus":

    TIME: Science Behind Christine Blasey Ford’s Testimony: 'Indelible In The Hippocampus Is Laughter'


    ABC News: Ford cites hippocampus in recollection of alleged assault


    CBS News: Christine Blasey Ford says she remembers "uproarious laughter" of alleged attackers


    USA TODAY: Christine Ford breaks down her trauma with science


    Washington Post: How Christine Blasey Ford used science to defend her allegations
     

    ‘Indelible In The Hippocampus Is Laughter’

    “I feared for my life; I was sexually assaulted; but the REALLY bad thing was the laughter.”

    • Replies: @gregor
    Reminds me of a Norm MacDonald bit on Cosby. “The worst part about it is the hypocrisy.”

    https://youtu.be/ljaP2etvDc4
  48. @Space Ghost
    Here's something I haven't seen addressed - wasn't Ford dating Kavanaugh's friend at the time? Even if you assume the worst about Kavanaugh - isn't raping / assaulting your friend's girlfriend a bad idea, just from a purely logical perspective, setting aside all bounds of morality?

    Unless dating codes have undergone a massive overhaul, the boyfriend is the first person an Outrag’d Maiden would tell.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    Beautiful painting. Deserves a bigger treatment:

    http://blistar.net/images/photos/325a204c42b1a34fda975dcb9e58c205.jpg
  49. @22pp22
    I wish to God more of you would come over to our side for your sake as well as ours. There won't be any Jews in England when it goes Islamic - at least not live ones.

    Well, I’m rooting for Seth Grossman to win in New Jersey CD-2 – as long a shot as it appears to be.

  50. Do you really think Kavanaugh was even sober during the hearings? I saw a red nosed drunk slurring his words. Kavanaugh switched between being combative and sobbing.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Definitely!!!!!!!!!! It's well known he beown bags while sitting on the appeals court and has been covered for all these years by the Clintons in return for Vince Foster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    , @Joe Walker
    I'm sure your deranged imagination saw a lot of things. You leftists have proved that you can see rape where there is no evidence that a rape ever occurred.
    , @istevefan
    I can't believe Kavanaugh is older than Ford. He looks much younger than she does. They kept implying Kavanaugh was some sort of drunk. But if he did abuse alcohol his whole life, he would not have looked as young. Ford's appearance suggests she either imbibes too much or spends too much time in the sun.
    , @black sea

    I saw a red nosed drunk slurring his words.
     
    Ghost of Ted Kennedy hovering over the proceedings.
    , @Hippopotamusdrome
    That wasn't a water bottle. It was vodka!
  51. @larry lurker
    The first five YouTube results for "christine blasey ford hippocampus":

    TIME: Science Behind Christine Blasey Ford’s Testimony: 'Indelible In The Hippocampus Is Laughter'


    ABC News: Ford cites hippocampus in recollection of alleged assault


    CBS News: Christine Blasey Ford says she remembers "uproarious laughter" of alleged attackers


    USA TODAY: Christine Ford breaks down her trauma with science


    Washington Post: How Christine Blasey Ford used science to defend her allegations
     

    larry-

    Your YT results are a perfect example of what I call, “scientism,” or sometimes, “science-ism.”

    Scientism is yet another one of the unfortunate secular faiths that has developed during the past few decades of far-left cultural dominance.

  52. @Rosamond Vincy
    I've posted this before, but I think it's worth revisiting:

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/84/3a/99/843a997847b7536f93451ed51724f137.jpg

    Okay that’s pretty funny.

    But why post now?

    Wait, “hippocampus”, right?

    #CurrentYearHaiku

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    Mos Eisley Cantina.

    Just think how mixed-up drinks could cause a run on the... facilities.
  53. OT: Clair McCaskill’s husband has made at least $11 million marketing tax credits for low income housing.

    Crony capitalism at its finest.

    https://freebeacon.com/politics/mccaskills-husband-makes-millions-flipping-government-tax-credits/

    If I were DJT, I would have at least one person looking for this kind of shite, and then coming up with an Executive Order that would stop it or at least make it more difficult. Then I would hand the item off to some right wing DOJ lawyers (stop laughing) to see what they could do to make these parasites’ lives miserable. Then DJT tweets about it. This is low hanging fruit. People hate government waste.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    I'm in Missouri and just saw a Claire ad this evening rebuking that claim. She even managed to get a WaPo fact check mention denouncing those who ran the ad.

    Translation: This must be hurting her because she herself appeared in this commercial in a tight shot making eye contact with the viewer. I've seen other attacks on Claire this cycle, but this is the first time I've seen Claire personally respond. Usually it is some PAC that is "not authorized by any candidate" that runs ads to promote her. But on this issue, it was all Claire.
  54. Well, I hope my fellow Unzians also had a great weekend.

    I have certainly pounded my share of Brewskis for Brett and some Old No. 7s for good measure.

    In other news, at the rate Lindsey Graham’s testes are descending, Graham is going to have a line of those fine Southern belles trying to double-up on him by the end of next week:

    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2018/10/07/un-mccained-melody/

  55. @SND
    Avi is a man's name. Avi is a man. Don't you have any Israeli friends?

    It’s also an obsolete video file format.

    I don’t have any Israeli friends, but a mischling friend of mine and I had the following exchange last night:

    Mischling: “Who was that Jewish guy who went to UM and played for the Dolphins? Had a name that started with K?”

    Someone Else: “Kosar.”

    Mischling: “Kosar! That’s right? What was his first name? It had an -e sound at the end. Maury, maybe?”

    Stan Adams: “Bernie.”

    Mischling: “Bernie! That’s right! Bernie Kosar! He’s broke now, isn’t he? He opened up a few restaurants and he ended up losing all his money.”

    Stan Adams (after poking around on his cell phone): “It turns out that he’s not Jewish. Kosar is a Hungarian name. He’s Catholic.”

    Mischling: “So he’s not Jewish? No wonder he ended up going broke! [Uproarious laughter]”

    Stan Adams: “Yeah, he’s just another goyische kop.”

    I don’t think the mischling heard me – he was still laughing pretty loudly. So I guess I got away with that one.

  56. OT Ignoring the donkey in the room

    It doesn’t take an outsized imagination to envisage how conservatives, emboldened by their newfound majority, and carried along on the great wave of tribal anger, might in good time go one step further. If Trump managed to take full control of the FBI and the agency started to investigate the Democratic candidate in a presidential election, would they be sure to stop it?

    http://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/brett-kavanaugh-confirmed-supreme-court-no-checks-trump.html

    • Replies: @ic1000
    Has Slate author Yascha Mounk ever heard of “projection”?
  57. I heard a sex crimes expert on the radio say that Ford’s testimony sounded like that of a very young child not a teenager. Ford’s testimony is about being totally overpowered. Given that Ford is a stout woman and Kavanaugh isn’t that much bigger from what I’ve seen on television, I suspect Ford may have been molested and simply transferred that experience onto false or imagined claims against Kavanaugh. This may also explain why Ford’s parents and brother have hardly been heard from.

    • Replies: @Chief Seattle
    You may be on to something. Adam Carolla said on his podcast that his years of experience on Loveline led him to believe that something had happened to her. Which surprised me, because that's not the side you'd expect him to take. His take was that she was telling roughly the truth, but that 17 year old Kavanaugh was behaving roughly in line with the morals of the early 80s, so didn't think much of it at the time and now wont admit a thing.

    I have thought from the beginning that she did get abused by someone, whether a family member, or more likely another boy or boyfriend down the line. The biggest evidence against Kavanaugh being a preditor (and there's almost no actual evidence on either side) is that Kavanaugh remained a virgin until years later. That was "mid coke, pre-aids" as Carolla likes to say. Any decent looking, athletic guy with a uncontrollable sexual appetite could and would be fulfilling it all over the place. The fact that he wasn't, and no one has come forward to dispute that fact, makes it likely that he was a bit more reserved in his sexual tendencies. Not at all the "rapist jock" that the left is trying to make us picture.
  58. @Paul F
    It's worse than that. Current scientific literature on PTSD indicates that traumatic experiences actually damage the hippocampus by repeated overstimulation of the amygdala. In other words, unless/until the memory is properly integrated, the sensory/emotional intensity of the memory will continue to grow while actual recall becomes progressively worse. The limitations of memory, in general, and the neurological effects of PTSD, specifically, are very well-known.

    In fact, they are so well-known that a "research psychologist" like Ford, who has actually done serious work in the field, couldn't possibly not know these things. Which means that when she rattled off that psychobabble about being "indelibly burned into the hippocampus" (or whatever her exact words were), she was not just trying to sound smart - she was straight-up lying, using her academic credentials to give weight to the lie.

    If she'd had a traumatic experience, and tried to suppress the memory for over 30 years, then it is absolutely possible it would end up mangled, confused with much later events and generally full of holes and contradictions. If she'd simply stuck to her story, I might be tempted to believe the memory-loss explanation, which is definitely not junk science - the media is gaslighting us as usual there. But since she went so far beyond that, spewed incoherent jargon and tried to incorporate other things like the second front door, I can't believe the easy explanation.

    This very point of contention is what proves beyond a doubt that she was lying. Perhaps she did get abused at some point, but it's irrelevant; she perjured herself when she donned the mantle of a psychology expert and provided "scientific" explanations she clearly must have known to be false. That is why it's so important for the media to gaslight us - because that's the clearest evidence of her criminal intentions.

    Rachel Mitchell picked up on the bs too:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gKa8ZIwE7g&t=2507s

    Start at 1:01:10 and play to the end.

    Note that Mitchell approaches by first buttering up Ford by re-iterating that Ford had mentioned norepinepherine and epinepherine … Ford took the bait and hammed it up with the smile and the attorneys chimed in. Mitchell continued by mentioning researchers in the field of child abuse … oh, Out Of Time!! That is where this seasoned professional was leading, and she barely got it in before the last 5-minute gong. You can be sure that was no coincidence.

    Recall that Mitchell had earlier questioned Ford about who paid for the polygraph, to the great annoyance of the attorneys. Ford skillfully avoided answering by offering up other information with a cutesy smile. Mitchell has seen it all before.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    If either of these 2 lawyers has a license in any red or even purple state immediate action is called for. California will protect them for sure. Testifying for the client? That really enhances her credibility!
  59. Anonymous [AKA "renatealumnus"] says:
    • Replies: @Hibernian
    Rumor has it that Mr. Dolphin keeps a 1o gauge on a rack in the kitchen, Mr. Alumnus.
  60. @academic gossip
    OT Ignoring the donkey in the room

    It doesn’t take an outsized imagination to envisage how conservatives, emboldened by their newfound majority, and carried along on the great wave of tribal anger, might in good time go one step further. If Trump managed to take full control of the FBI and the agency started to investigate the Democratic candidate in a presidential election, would they be sure to stop it?
     
    http://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/brett-kavanaugh-confirmed-supreme-court-no-checks-trump.html

    Has Slate author Yascha Mounk ever heard of “projection”?

  61. @Anon
    Hey Kavanaugh! Keep your rosaries off my ovaries!

    This sums up the whole anti-Kavanaugh circus. The Left want to preserve abortion at all costs but they know that a significant proportion of Americans are against it and so they concoct this whole rape nonsense as a way to undermine an anti-abortion candidate for the Supreme Court. For the Left, being against abortion is as bad as being a rapist.

  62. @Randall Burns
    Do you really think Kavanaugh was even sober during the hearings? I saw a red nosed drunk slurring his words. Kavanaugh switched between being combative and sobbing.

    Definitely!!!!!!!!!! It’s well known he beown bags while sitting on the appeals court and has been covered for all these years by the Clintons in return for Vince Foster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  63. @Randall Burns
    Do you really think Kavanaugh was even sober during the hearings? I saw a red nosed drunk slurring his words. Kavanaugh switched between being combative and sobbing.

    I’m sure your deranged imagination saw a lot of things. You leftists have proved that you can see rape where there is no evidence that a rape ever occurred.

  64. Molest, molest, molest the molestors of the Left.
    May the Supreme Gang violate the enemy, power drunk;
    Let the trains of justice run!
    His rod and his legal staff, they discomfort them.
    Damnatio democratiae
    Black out their names
    Burn the hippo campus.
    Wind have they sown, whirlwind shall they reap,
    Through front doors and back,
    Forever and ever
    Amen.

  65. @22pp22
    I wish to God more of you would come over to our side for your sake as well as ours. There won't be any Jews in England when it goes Islamic - at least not live ones.

    Jews are only ever on one side – their own. Jews would support any policy that was good for them even if it led to the extinction of every gentile on earth.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Jews are only ever on one side – their own. Jews would support any policy that was good for them even if it led to the extinction of every gentile on earth.

     

    Then how would they get their ten percent?
  66. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:

    A Teamster study of turnover at one Amazon warehouse in San Bernardino showed that the company had to hire 6,000 workers over a three-year period to maintain a workforce of 1,000.
    Amazon’s Lynch addressed the assertion of high turnover by saying that the company “offers industry leading benefits” and “one of the reasons we are able to attract people to join us is that our number one priority is to ensure a positive and safe working environment.”
    None of Amazon’s U.S. workers are unionized.
    The company’s orientation meetings regularly include anti-union videos, and the high turnover makes union organizing difficult, Korgan said.
    Despite California’s declining unemployment rate, “there’s no shortage of workers,” he said. “There’s just a shortage of workers who will put up with Amazon’s working conditions. “

    No shortage, thanks to mass immigration

    https://www.bendbulletin.com/business/6571485-151/amazons-wage-hike-lifts-californias-warehouse-region

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    high turnover makes union organizing difficult

    That's a pretty funny strategy to keep out unions: be such a bad job that nobody sticks around long enough to think about organizing.

    , @Anon
    A few years ago there was a flurry of "I worked at an Amazon hellhole" articles by freelance writers who worked at an Amazon fulfillment center for a week for the express purpose of getting a $50 paycheck from Salon or Slate out of it (I think Amazon got wise and googles applicants now, rejecting anyone with a recent byline).

    I remember from reading these articles that the workforce was heavily skewed towards older couples who lived in campers and travelled the country, stopping from time to time in a place to refill the bank account with gas and coffee money. Amazon fulfillment centers had become known among that tribe as an easy place to get a quick job, the same way that Cambodians just seem to know that donut shops are the best business for them to start. So you wouldn't expect them to stay around long, nor would you expect them to care about a union. But it does imply that the job isn't that horrible if so many workers return to it.

  67. Anon[735] • Disclaimer says:

    This image from the WaPo web site was used in a September 28 anti-Kav article by this guy, shown on the page collecting his articles, but no longer shown on the article itself (complaints?):

  68. @Anon

    A Teamster study of turnover at one Amazon warehouse in San Bernardino showed that the company had to hire 6,000 workers over a three-year period to maintain a workforce of 1,000.
    Amazon’s Lynch addressed the assertion of high turnover by saying that the company “offers industry leading benefits” and “one of the reasons we are able to attract people to join us is that our number one priority is to ensure a positive and safe working environment.”
    None of Amazon’s U.S. workers are unionized.
    The company’s orientation meetings regularly include anti-union videos, and the high turnover makes union organizing difficult, Korgan said.
    Despite California’s declining unemployment rate, “there’s no shortage of workers,” he said. “There’s just a shortage of workers who will put up with Amazon’s working conditions. “
     
    No shortage, thanks to mass immigration

    https://www.bendbulletin.com/business/6571485-151/amazons-wage-hike-lifts-californias-warehouse-region

    high turnover makes union organizing difficult

    That’s a pretty funny strategy to keep out unions: be such a bad job that nobody sticks around long enough to think about organizing.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Amazon did also just raise their minimum wage to $15 per hour.
    , @Anon
    It would be interesting to measure the interactions between high turnover in low-wage jobs, welfare system work requirements, and the Work Opportunity Tax Credit. Might be a vicious circle.
    , @Thea
    In grad school, this one guy kept trying to start a TA union. He seemed flummoxed that none of the other TAs cared. Our university had a rule that no one could work as a TA more than some number of years(4 or 5 maybe)
  69. @ic1000
    > ... is now something like common wisdom for many Republicans.

    It is? Who are Avi Selk’s many Republicans? Did she consult the same people as Stephen Glass?

    Ms. Selk, it’s more polite to offer Dr. Blasey Ford this excuse than to assert that she surely made her accusation for Other Reason X. Many Republicans weren’t at the fabled party 35, 36, or 37 years ago. They also realize that they don’t live in Dr. Blasey Ford’s head. Do you?

    24 ic1000 > Who are Avi Selk’s many Republicans? Did she

    well, Avi is a male name

    it’s sort of unfashionable nowadays.

    American Jews seldom are on top of actual contemporary social trends in Israel. It’s because they’re too fucking lazy to learn Hebrew.

    Not surprising that “Avi” is of the same ilk. “Journalism” courses are a straight-up joke. The career field is only suited to retarded children.

    Furthermore, the English-language media in Israel is 99% focused on the lucrative industry of separating American Jews from their money.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    Furthermore, the English-language media in Israel is 99% focused on the lucrative industry of separating American Jews from their money.
     
    I wanted to highlight this sentence because it perfectly encapsulates exactly what (((those people))) are.
    , @ic1000
    > well, Avi is a male name

    Sorry ‘bout that, Mr. Selk!
  70. @Almost Missouri
    Okay that's pretty funny.

    But why post now?

    Wait, "hippocampus", right?

    #CurrentYearHaiku

    Mos Eisley Cantina.

    Just think how mixed-up drinks could cause a run on the… facilities.

  71. @Anonymous
    (((Avi Selk))) - every fucking time.... And I'm Jewish! I love my peeps, and my heart grieves for their leftist indocrination

    Y’ beat me to it……still, let us fervently hope that every day the number of Americans scanning bylines for presence of Tribe is climbing exponentially (well, I can hope that- you maybe, not so much).

    Zei gezunt, my friend.

  72. @Steve Sailer
    high turnover makes union organizing difficult

    That's a pretty funny strategy to keep out unions: be such a bad job that nobody sticks around long enough to think about organizing.

    Amazon did also just raise their minimum wage to $15 per hour.

    • Replies: @Buster Keaton's Stunt Double
    To further put the screws to everyone who has to compete with them...
  73. @MalePaleStale
    I heard a sex crimes expert on the radio say that Ford's testimony sounded like that of a very young child not a teenager. Ford's testimony is about being totally overpowered. Given that Ford is a stout woman and Kavanaugh isn't that much bigger from what I've seen on television, I suspect Ford may have been molested and simply transferred that experience onto false or imagined claims against Kavanaugh. This may also explain why Ford's parents and brother have hardly been heard from.

    You may be on to something. Adam Carolla said on his podcast that his years of experience on Loveline led him to believe that something had happened to her. Which surprised me, because that’s not the side you’d expect him to take. His take was that she was telling roughly the truth, but that 17 year old Kavanaugh was behaving roughly in line with the morals of the early 80s, so didn’t think much of it at the time and now wont admit a thing.

    I have thought from the beginning that she did get abused by someone, whether a family member, or more likely another boy or boyfriend down the line. The biggest evidence against Kavanaugh being a preditor (and there’s almost no actual evidence on either side) is that Kavanaugh remained a virgin until years later. That was “mid coke, pre-aids” as Carolla likes to say. Any decent looking, athletic guy with a uncontrollable sexual appetite could and would be fulfilling it all over the place. The fact that he wasn’t, and no one has come forward to dispute that fact, makes it likely that he was a bit more reserved in his sexual tendencies. Not at all the “rapist jock” that the left is trying to make us picture.

    • Replies: @HA
    "You may be on to something. Adam Carolla said on his podcast that his years of experience on Loveline led him to believe that something had happened to her. "

    From the Loveline wiki:


    The Little Girl Voice is an informal name for a vocal trait in adult women that is caused by psychological trauma before the onset of puberty. Women that are affected speak in a higher sounding, child-like pattern, usually in a manner similar to the age at which they suffered the traumatic event.

    Dr. Drew frequently uses this as a cue when talking to female callers, in order to better understand the cause of their problems. He is so practiced at noticing it that he can often guess down to a 6 month period in the woman's life when she was traumatized...

    Despite its lack of formal research, many others in the mental health field to have noticed this pattern too, though detecting it correctly requires practice. Laypeople with sufficient experience can learn to pick up on it, though they can sometimes be mistaken if person merely has a high-pitched voice. Drew often suggests closing one's eyes and imagining that you know nothing about the speaker (including their real age) and concentrating on how old the speaker makes you feel like they are.
     

  74. Anon[735] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    A Teamster study of turnover at one Amazon warehouse in San Bernardino showed that the company had to hire 6,000 workers over a three-year period to maintain a workforce of 1,000.
    Amazon’s Lynch addressed the assertion of high turnover by saying that the company “offers industry leading benefits” and “one of the reasons we are able to attract people to join us is that our number one priority is to ensure a positive and safe working environment.”
    None of Amazon’s U.S. workers are unionized.
    The company’s orientation meetings regularly include anti-union videos, and the high turnover makes union organizing difficult, Korgan said.
    Despite California’s declining unemployment rate, “there’s no shortage of workers,” he said. “There’s just a shortage of workers who will put up with Amazon’s working conditions. “
     
    No shortage, thanks to mass immigration

    https://www.bendbulletin.com/business/6571485-151/amazons-wage-hike-lifts-californias-warehouse-region

    A few years ago there was a flurry of “I worked at an Amazon hellhole” articles by freelance writers who worked at an Amazon fulfillment center for a week for the express purpose of getting a $50 paycheck from Salon or Slate out of it (I think Amazon got wise and googles applicants now, rejecting anyone with a recent byline).

    I remember from reading these articles that the workforce was heavily skewed towards older couples who lived in campers and travelled the country, stopping from time to time in a place to refill the bank account with gas and coffee money. Amazon fulfillment centers had become known among that tribe as an easy place to get a quick job, the same way that Cambodians just seem to know that donut shops are the best business for them to start. So you wouldn’t expect them to stay around long, nor would you expect them to care about a union. But it does imply that the job isn’t that horrible if so many workers return to it.

  75. @Steve Sailer
    high turnover makes union organizing difficult

    That's a pretty funny strategy to keep out unions: be such a bad job that nobody sticks around long enough to think about organizing.

    It would be interesting to measure the interactions between high turnover in low-wage jobs, welfare system work requirements, and the Work Opportunity Tax Credit. Might be a vicious circle.

  76. Anonymous[210] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tiny Duck
    The idea that Ford is right about the assault and wrong about the assaulter is far less likely than her being right or wrong about both. But this has become the default GOP position because they're too cowardly to either call her a liar or admit they don’t care even if it’s true.

    What the GOP has done has angered many he REAL Americans

    We see the evil and the lies

    We are going to slaughter you fools in the midterms and then impeach kavsnaugh and trump


    Read Leonard Pitts and Matthew Dowd

    The idea that Ford is right about the assault and wrong about the assaulter is far less likely than her being right or wrong about both. But this has become the default GOP position because they’re too cowardly to either call her a liar or admit they don’t care even if it’s true.

    Nice cut and paste straight off of twitter there. I commend your ability to either right click on a mouse or use CTRL-C and CTRL-V. https://twitter.com/ericuman/status/1048955501332111360

    Was the rest of it an attempt at poetry? Some bastardized form of haiku?

  77. she did get abused by someone

    By all accounts that someone’s name was Christine Blasey.

  78. Anonymous [AKA "homey"] says:

    prof Ford could just be lying motivated by her politics so there is little reason to speculate about this claimed attempted ‘sexual assault”.There is enough material on the internet which connects those dots.She was also very promiscuous and a heavy boozer at high school.She deleted all her social media info. Dont let her walk-she committed perjury.Charges of sexual matters has become the default last attempt to assassinate political opponents for progressives.It only works if we all play along.She isnt a survivor she isnt a victim.Her fake glasses and 10 year old child like voice at the hearing were practiced .That is why she needed that extra week.It had nothing to do with fear of flying.There are many sources to collate for data and opinions.Try reading https://theconservativetreehouse.com/ —they connect many dots.

  79. IMHO, it was Trump’s reluctance to bring the hammer down that has caused, and is causing him so much difficulty with an ever-more crazed Democratic Party. (Example: he hasn’t been confirmed three days yet, and yet Kavanaugh continues to be described in the press as a ‘rapist’, ‘serial rapist’, a crass Exploiter of Wimmins, and of course a (yawwwwn) standard-issue White Supremacist.) But Trump signed off on all of this, the day after his election when he publicly gave Hillary and her team a full walk a la Ford’s reacharound to Nixon.

    There are some people in this world so desirous – demanding – of power that they will view any act of kindness or decency or chivalry as a momentary sign of weakness signalling them to redouble their attack. Unfortunately, the worst of these people are always found in our nation’s capital. The moment Trump passed on investigating/prosecuting Queen Pantsuit, the bottom-feeders all decided on the spot that any such display of mercy could only be motivated by the rattling of Russian skeletons in Trump’s walk-in closet….given the mind-boggling shelf-life of that Hail Mary bullshit story, I suppose we can look forward to endless Kavanaugh the Serial (Serial!) Rapist stories and references round the clock, or until American watches are finally wound to Charlie Hebdo Time. (Wouldn’t be much of a solution, maybe, but far fewer citizens would object than would merely pretend to.)

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    I suppose we can look forward to endless Kavanaugh the Serial (Serial!) Rapist stories
     
    Kavanaugh proclaimed at his hearing that he has hired only women as his clerks for the Supreme Court.
  80. @TheBoom
    Blowback is not a Republican thing. Even Trump is not into it so the Democrats never need to learn. Trump is off looking for the next issue to tweet about

    Not until now. Too risky with so many internal divisions among Rs. We’ll see if things change going forward.

  81. @Anonymous
    (((Avi Selk))) - every fucking time.... And I'm Jewish! I love my peeps, and my heart grieves for their leftist indocrination

    Y’all have leaned (way) left for a hundred years. This transparently mercenary dipshittery is entirely new.

  82. @Lot
    "JAP"

    https://www.dmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Avi_Selk.jpg

    http://www.chicagonow.com/listing-beyond-forty/files/2015/03/austin-powers-a-man-baby-300x259.jpg

    I stand by my statement.

  83. @Lot
    "JAP"

    https://www.dmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Avi_Selk.jpg

    http://www.chicagonow.com/listing-beyond-forty/files/2015/03/austin-powers-a-man-baby-300x259.jpg

    A good rule of thumb would be to not start up a writing career in a country where your name can easily be mistaken for a woman’s (unless you plan on pounding out romance novels).

  84. @Dave Pinsen
    Amazon did also just raise their minimum wage to $15 per hour.

    To further put the screws to everyone who has to compete with them…

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Absolutely. And they'll automate faster than their competitors.
  85. Anon[382] • Disclaimer says:

    When you reach a certain age these kind of egghead explanations of how memory works at the neurological level are superceded by your own “lived experience” with a memory going slightly out of whack. And, having read Richard Haier’s recent book, my view is that you want to be careful in not overstating what these fine scientists have in fact established. It’s still in hypothesis phase at the moment. But you sympathize with them, since they have so little data. You can take DNA samples from 1.25 million people, but these neuro guys are at the stage where they get hard-ons if they can talk 100 people into an uncomfortable and unpleasant MRI.

  86. @Steve Sailer
    high turnover makes union organizing difficult

    That's a pretty funny strategy to keep out unions: be such a bad job that nobody sticks around long enough to think about organizing.

    In grad school, this one guy kept trying to start a TA union. He seemed flummoxed that none of the other TAs cared. Our university had a rule that no one could work as a TA more than some number of years(4 or 5 maybe)

  87. She’s been practicing her “I can’t exactly remember” speech since 2012.

  88. Anonymous[527] • Disclaimer says:
    @HA
    And then, there's the case of Ronald Cotton, falsely accused of rape on the basis of eyewitness testimony.

    The woman who accused him made every effort to study the perpetrator’s face while he was assaulting her, "just trying to pay attention to a detail, so that if I survived…I’d be able to help the police catch him" and presumably burning his image into her hippocampus or wherever. She ID'd him twice and was 100% sure she had the right man. Unlike Ford, she was not drinking alcohol, she was a fully grown adult, there was no 30+ year time gap before she ever uttered a name to anyone, there were no group of people with her who have no idea what she was talking about. And she was still wrong. But that didn't prevent Cotton from spending over a decade in prison (before DNA definitely proved it was the guy who had confessed about the rape to a cellmate).

    On the one hand, Cotton was a stranger, and he was black (which can make identification by whites harder), and that needs to be taken into account. On the other hand, there are all the other complications I just mentioned that her case lacked, not to mention the most important one about rape produces memories that are indelible and therefore are not to be questioned.

    Exactly. It’s widely known among those who work in the area that eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable. You maybe remember some details that are particularly salient some which happened to catch your eye, like maybe someone’s haircut or gold tooth or skin color and your brain fills in lots of uncertainty. And you may be someone who feels they are 100% right but studies show that no you aren’t. People do resemble each other in many ways and what someone is so certain about often may not be correct. And we’re talking about people earnestly trying to remember a crime here that undoubtedly occurred and not that long after it happened, not a convenient character attack 36 years later. The mind wants peace, closure, wants someone to receive punishment as justice to maintain their views of the world and to psychologically move on. Plenty of women seem to be driven by emotions over logic and some have a tendency towards scapegoating people who are convenient targets to ‘resolve’ problems.

  89. @Chief Seattle
    You may be on to something. Adam Carolla said on his podcast that his years of experience on Loveline led him to believe that something had happened to her. Which surprised me, because that's not the side you'd expect him to take. His take was that she was telling roughly the truth, but that 17 year old Kavanaugh was behaving roughly in line with the morals of the early 80s, so didn't think much of it at the time and now wont admit a thing.

    I have thought from the beginning that she did get abused by someone, whether a family member, or more likely another boy or boyfriend down the line. The biggest evidence against Kavanaugh being a preditor (and there's almost no actual evidence on either side) is that Kavanaugh remained a virgin until years later. That was "mid coke, pre-aids" as Carolla likes to say. Any decent looking, athletic guy with a uncontrollable sexual appetite could and would be fulfilling it all over the place. The fact that he wasn't, and no one has come forward to dispute that fact, makes it likely that he was a bit more reserved in his sexual tendencies. Not at all the "rapist jock" that the left is trying to make us picture.

    “You may be on to something. Adam Carolla said on his podcast that his years of experience on Loveline led him to believe that something had happened to her. “

    From the Loveline wiki:

    The Little Girl Voice is an informal name for a vocal trait in adult women that is caused by psychological trauma before the onset of puberty. Women that are affected speak in a higher sounding, child-like pattern, usually in a manner similar to the age at which they suffered the traumatic event.

    Dr. Drew frequently uses this as a cue when talking to female callers, in order to better understand the cause of their problems. He is so practiced at noticing it that he can often guess down to a 6 month period in the woman’s life when she was traumatized…

    Despite its lack of formal research, many others in the mental health field to have noticed this pattern too, though detecting it correctly requires practice. Laypeople with sufficient experience can learn to pick up on it, though they can sometimes be mistaken if person merely has a high-pitched voice. Drew often suggests closing one’s eyes and imagining that you know nothing about the speaker (including their real age) and concentrating on how old the speaker makes you feel like they are.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    What about up-talking with vocal fry? That's not something ordinarily associated with a specific age or stage of development.
    , @Ibound1
    Let’s ask her students and her employers if she lectures in that voice or attends meetings using that voice. If not, then the voice was an affectation designed to make people think she had been through a trauma.
    , @miss marple
    Yes and CBF likely knows this information too. I really don't understand why some of you believe she couldn't possibly be faking it and be convincing while acting the part.
    , @Tex
    I listened to enough Lovelines to know how the rest of the diagnosis falls into line. 1) She was abused at a young age (fixing the vocal manner), as she got older 2) she was promiscuous, 3) resorted to drugs or alcohol, and 4) associated with abusers. Apparently there is some talk that 2&3 occurred. Given the situation, YMMV as to whether that's true. I guess Carolla deduced 4 from the other three.

    I'm not sure how much faith one should put in rule-of-thumb diagnosis from radio talk-show hosts, experienced or not. Moreover, I'm not sure it matters.

    Her story is not credible, it is full of holes, deception, and lacking in any back up. There's no reason to think Kavanaugh had anything to do with her.

    I think what Ford's role is basically a lair-for-hire in a smear campaign. That's pretty messed up. Maybe she did such a messed up thing because she's a messed up person which was the result of abuse. That's just speculation of course. YMMV.
  90. @Buster Keaton's Stunt Double
    To further put the screws to everyone who has to compete with them...

    Absolutely. And they’ll automate faster than their competitors.

  91. @Tiny Duck
    The idea that Ford is right about the assault and wrong about the assaulter is far less likely than her being right or wrong about both. But this has become the default GOP position because they're too cowardly to either call her a liar or admit they don’t care even if it’s true.

    What the GOP has done has angered many he REAL Americans

    We see the evil and the lies

    We are going to slaughter you fools in the midterms and then impeach kavsnaugh and trump


    Read Leonard Pitts and Matthew Dowd

    “But this has become the default GOP position because they’re too cowardly to either call her a liar or admit they don’t care even if it’s true.”

    Lol, this part is actually pretty much true.

    Probably the right strategy though. They knew the case was weak, so not much upside in being too aggressive. They were so nervous about coming off as insensitive they brought in a woman to do the cross and seemingly told her to go easy.

  92. “Indelible in the hippocampus” has ascended to the Memetic Pantheon.

    I can’t wait for the first public callback.

  93. Ford strikes me as the kind of woman who might have some plagiarism or data faking in her published research.

  94. They could always take a page out of the Black Handbook and claim that men all look alike to them.

  95. @Karl
    24 ic1000 > Who are Avi Selk’s many Republicans? Did she

    well, Avi is a male name

    it's sort of unfashionable nowadays.

    American Jews seldom are on top of actual contemporary social trends in Israel. It's because they're too fucking lazy to learn Hebrew.

    Not surprising that "Avi" is of the same ilk. "Journalism" courses are a straight-up joke. The career field is only suited to retarded children.

    Furthermore, the English-language media in Israel is 99% focused on the lucrative industry of separating American Jews from their money.

    Furthermore, the English-language media in Israel is 99% focused on the lucrative industry of separating American Jews from their money.

    I wanted to highlight this sentence because it perfectly encapsulates exactly what (((those people))) are.

  96. @HA
    "You may be on to something. Adam Carolla said on his podcast that his years of experience on Loveline led him to believe that something had happened to her. "

    From the Loveline wiki:


    The Little Girl Voice is an informal name for a vocal trait in adult women that is caused by psychological trauma before the onset of puberty. Women that are affected speak in a higher sounding, child-like pattern, usually in a manner similar to the age at which they suffered the traumatic event.

    Dr. Drew frequently uses this as a cue when talking to female callers, in order to better understand the cause of their problems. He is so practiced at noticing it that he can often guess down to a 6 month period in the woman's life when she was traumatized...

    Despite its lack of formal research, many others in the mental health field to have noticed this pattern too, though detecting it correctly requires practice. Laypeople with sufficient experience can learn to pick up on it, though they can sometimes be mistaken if person merely has a high-pitched voice. Drew often suggests closing one's eyes and imagining that you know nothing about the speaker (including their real age) and concentrating on how old the speaker makes you feel like they are.
     

    What about up-talking with vocal fry? That’s not something ordinarily associated with a specific age or stage of development.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    That's associated with her politics.
  97. @Steve in Greensboro
    Thinking people understand that Miss Blasey collaborated with her FBI "beach friend" Miss McLean to construct a pretty feeble defamatory hoax with the goal of derailing the Kavanaugh nomination.

    Politicians pretend to "find Miss Blasey credible", but that is merely a political ruse to avoid being shrieked at by feminist harpies.

    But nobody really believes her anymore. Note how quickly Miss Blasey indicated her unwillingness to support the impeachment fantasies of the fever swamp left.

    The reason she indicated no further interest in pursuing Kavanaugh could also be she realized she’s in deep doo-doo, that Grassley & co may have incriminating evidence she lied.

  98. istevefan says:
    @Randall Burns
    Do you really think Kavanaugh was even sober during the hearings? I saw a red nosed drunk slurring his words. Kavanaugh switched between being combative and sobbing.

    I can’t believe Kavanaugh is older than Ford. He looks much younger than she does. They kept implying Kavanaugh was some sort of drunk. But if he did abuse alcohol his whole life, he would not have looked as young. Ford’s appearance suggests she either imbibes too much or spends too much time in the sun.

  99. “Ms. Blasey Ford, are you certain it was Judge Kavanaugh who sexually assaulted you?”

    Party on, Chrissy.

    SCHWINGGGGGGGGG … NOT!

    • LOL: Joe Walker
  100. istevefan says:
    @Jim Don Bob
    OT: Clair McCaskill's husband has made at least $11 million marketing tax credits for low income housing.

    Crony capitalism at its finest.

    https://freebeacon.com/politics/mccaskills-husband-makes-millions-flipping-government-tax-credits/

    If I were DJT, I would have at least one person looking for this kind of shite, and then coming up with an Executive Order that would stop it or at least make it more difficult. Then I would hand the item off to some right wing DOJ lawyers (stop laughing) to see what they could do to make these parasites' lives miserable. Then DJT tweets about it. This is low hanging fruit. People hate government waste.

    I’m in Missouri and just saw a Claire ad this evening rebuking that claim. She even managed to get a WaPo fact check mention denouncing those who ran the ad.

    Translation: This must be hurting her because she herself appeared in this commercial in a tight shot making eye contact with the viewer. I’ve seen other attacks on Claire this cycle, but this is the first time I’ve seen Claire personally respond. Usually it is some PAC that is “not authorized by any candidate” that runs ads to promote her. But on this issue, it was all Claire.

  101. @The Alarmist
    What about up-talking with vocal fry? That's not something ordinarily associated with a specific age or stage of development.

    That’s associated with her politics.

  102. istevefan says:

    The politically convenient, scientifically baseless theory that sexual assault so traumatized Christine Blasey Ford she mixed up her attacker…

    The politically convenient theory was to suggest Ford was attacked by another guy because the GOP were too afraid to call bulls*it on Ford and say that she was lying. By repeatedly stating they believed her, but that it was another guy they were able to defend Judge K. without totally humiliating Ford.

  103. @HA
    "You may be on to something. Adam Carolla said on his podcast that his years of experience on Loveline led him to believe that something had happened to her. "

    From the Loveline wiki:


    The Little Girl Voice is an informal name for a vocal trait in adult women that is caused by psychological trauma before the onset of puberty. Women that are affected speak in a higher sounding, child-like pattern, usually in a manner similar to the age at which they suffered the traumatic event.

    Dr. Drew frequently uses this as a cue when talking to female callers, in order to better understand the cause of their problems. He is so practiced at noticing it that he can often guess down to a 6 month period in the woman's life when she was traumatized...

    Despite its lack of formal research, many others in the mental health field to have noticed this pattern too, though detecting it correctly requires practice. Laypeople with sufficient experience can learn to pick up on it, though they can sometimes be mistaken if person merely has a high-pitched voice. Drew often suggests closing one's eyes and imagining that you know nothing about the speaker (including their real age) and concentrating on how old the speaker makes you feel like they are.
     

    Let’s ask her students and her employers if she lectures in that voice or attends meetings using that voice. If not, then the voice was an affectation designed to make people think she had been through a trauma.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    I knew a female Sr. VP, mid '40s, at one of the major credit card brands, and she used that same voice to great effect in business meetings to soften up older execs, usually white male at that time.
  104. @Ibound1
    Let’s ask her students and her employers if she lectures in that voice or attends meetings using that voice. If not, then the voice was an affectation designed to make people think she had been through a trauma.

    I knew a female Sr. VP, mid ’40s, at one of the major credit card brands, and she used that same voice to great effect in business meetings to soften up older execs, usually white male at that time.

  105. @anon
    I don't think credible is what people meant. I think it her testimony evoked empathy from listeners. Even if it didn't, people can't say it without seeming callous.


    A lifetime of trauma from spectacularly unsuccessful attempted sexual assault is 'unspeakable' but intuitive.

    anon[335] wrote:

    I don’t think credible is what people meant. I think it her testimony evoked empathy from listeners. Even if it didn’t, people can’t say it without seeming callous.

    Yeah. People also meant that based on her testimony alone, she might well have been telling the truth. I.e., it was not obvious from her demeanor, etc., that she was lying.

    I found her demeanor a bit odd, but I know too much about humans’ inability to judge others’ truthfulness by merely observing them for me to believe that I could tell whether she or Kavanaugh was telling the truth.

    After all, if we were really good at judging other people’s truthfulness, then actors, politicians, and con artists would not be able to earn a living.

    I still do not know what, if anything, happened. I know she lied about the supposed fear of flying, and I know that Kavanaugh drank too much as an adolescent. And, I know that the corroborating evidence that might have existed doesn’t.

    So, I can’t accept setting the precedent of ruining a person’s life due to allegations that cannot be corroborated. That could destroy a society.

    • Agree: Desiderius, ic1000
    • Replies: @Hibernian
    Her evasiveness was obvious to me.
  106. @Rosamond Vincy
    I've posted this before, but I think it's worth revisiting:

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/84/3a/99/843a997847b7536f93451ed51724f137.jpg

    oowwwww …. I hippocamped that up from MAD Magazine … the school busses … the girls … the rain … the hazing … the sunsets after school (no rape)

    You owe me a Remembrance Beer.

  107. @Tiny Duck
    The idea that Ford is right about the assault and wrong about the assaulter is far less likely than her being right or wrong about both. But this has become the default GOP position because they're too cowardly to either call her a liar or admit they don’t care even if it’s true.

    What the GOP has done has angered many he REAL Americans

    We see the evil and the lies

    We are going to slaughter you fools in the midterms and then impeach kavsnaugh and trump


    Read Leonard Pitts and Matthew Dowd

    I have to admit Leonard “Emmet Till” Pitts taking a White woman’s rape accusation at face value is amusing.

  108. @Thea
    Look, most just don’t care what happened 36 years ago. And we are sick of feminists. Sorry it may be petty but my knee jerk reaction is that I don’t believe you.


    Far be it for me to suggest teenagers shouldn’t attend unsupervised mixed-sex drinking parties in the first place. Both behaved badly.

    The 3 witnesses Ford mentioned all had their attorneys write letters to the Juduciary committte that they had no recollection of attending such a party with Kavanauugh and Ford

    One of the so called witnessesstated she never met kavanaugh

    And it wasn’t a party. In her first lying letter to her Congress critter she claimed it was a party. Then she changed her mind. By the time of the hearing she claimed only 5 people went to the empty house of a stranger went right upstairs to a bedroom and kavanaugh attacked her. The 3 people she claimed were there all deny it.

    • Replies: @Perelandra
    I just realized that according to Ford's revised acount, Kavanaugh and Judge would've been in a stranger's house. Which implies they would have walked into someone else's bedroom with music ALREADY playing and turned it up. This would never happen. Music playing in someone's room indicates it is either occupied or that a person was recently there. You wouldn't go into a room like this in a stranger's house. Christine's replay of this event assumed Kav's bedroom in her mind and made him adjust his stereo in her retelling. Another fake detail that reveals the lie.
  109. @Rosamond Vincy
    I've posted this before, but I think it's worth revisiting:

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/84/3a/99/843a997847b7536f93451ed51724f137.jpg

    I’m pretty sure Sergio Aragones stole the idea from an article in the May 1971 issue of National Lampoon, “Toilets of the Extraterrestrials” by Peter Bramley.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    Oh dear, googled, and you appear to be right. Highly unlikely the satire magazines weren't reading each other.
  110. @Thea
    Look, most just don’t care what happened 36 years ago. And we are sick of feminists. Sorry it may be petty but my knee jerk reaction is that I don’t believe you.


    Far be it for me to suggest teenagers shouldn’t attend unsupervised mixed-sex drinking parties in the first place. Both behaved badly.

    The 3 witnesses Ford mentioned all had their attorneys write letters to the Juduciary committte that they had no recollection of attending such a party with Kavanauugh and Ford

    One of the so called witnesses stated she never met kavanaugh

    And it wasn’t a party. In her first lying letter to her Congress critter she claimed it was a party. Then she changed her mind. By the time of the hearing she claimed only 5 people went to the empty house of a stranger went right upstairs to a bedroom and kavanaugh attacked her. The 3 people she claimed were there all deny it.

  111. @Randall Burns
    Do you really think Kavanaugh was even sober during the hearings? I saw a red nosed drunk slurring his words. Kavanaugh switched between being combative and sobbing.

    I saw a red nosed drunk slurring his words.

    Ghost of Ted Kennedy hovering over the proceedings.

  112. @Karl
    24 ic1000 > Who are Avi Selk’s many Republicans? Did she

    well, Avi is a male name

    it's sort of unfashionable nowadays.

    American Jews seldom are on top of actual contemporary social trends in Israel. It's because they're too fucking lazy to learn Hebrew.

    Not surprising that "Avi" is of the same ilk. "Journalism" courses are a straight-up joke. The career field is only suited to retarded children.

    Furthermore, the English-language media in Israel is 99% focused on the lucrative industry of separating American Jews from their money.

    > well, Avi is a male name

    Sorry ‘bout that, Mr. Selk!

  113. “See how she destroys us with her tongue for a hatchet? You’ve got to cut this hideous story out of her hippocampus!”

    “How much are you willing to pay for that, Aunt Vi?”

  114. @HA
    "You may be on to something. Adam Carolla said on his podcast that his years of experience on Loveline led him to believe that something had happened to her. "

    From the Loveline wiki:


    The Little Girl Voice is an informal name for a vocal trait in adult women that is caused by psychological trauma before the onset of puberty. Women that are affected speak in a higher sounding, child-like pattern, usually in a manner similar to the age at which they suffered the traumatic event.

    Dr. Drew frequently uses this as a cue when talking to female callers, in order to better understand the cause of their problems. He is so practiced at noticing it that he can often guess down to a 6 month period in the woman's life when she was traumatized...

    Despite its lack of formal research, many others in the mental health field to have noticed this pattern too, though detecting it correctly requires practice. Laypeople with sufficient experience can learn to pick up on it, though they can sometimes be mistaken if person merely has a high-pitched voice. Drew often suggests closing one's eyes and imagining that you know nothing about the speaker (including their real age) and concentrating on how old the speaker makes you feel like they are.
     

    Yes and CBF likely knows this information too. I really don’t understand why some of you believe she couldn’t possibly be faking it and be convincing while acting the part.

    • Replies: @HA
    "Yes and CBF likely knows this information too. I really don’t understand why some of you believe she couldn’t possibly be faking it and be convincing while acting the part."

    Because she didn't go full Jackie. (You never go full Jackie.) There was no shattered glass table, she was not stuffed into a garbage bag with dog excrement. If she were making it up from scratch, she'd probably:

    1) pick something a little more headline-worthy

    2) run her story by her friend in order to get at least some backup and fill in the holes

    I'm willing to believe something like this happened because something like this has probably happened in every other alcohol-fueled teenage party or get-together, whether in the 80's or since.

    Does that mean the story is accurate? No. Look at Debra Ramirez. A few weeks ago she couldn't be sure it was Kavanaugh who flashed and prodded her, but after 6 days of "assessing" memories with her lawyer, she's suddenly sure. And here's the thing, she may well sincerely believe that now. In that sense, even though she willed herself into photoshopping Kavanaugh into her story, she's not technically lying, or however George Costanza would put it. Same thing could have happened with Ford. I'd be willing to bet that thirty years of teenage resentment (and more recently, stories about how Republicans are waging a war on women's bodies and so forth) can do as much or more as 6 days of lawyer-assisted assessing, when it comes to switching out whoever did this to her (and again, how hard is it to believe that no one could have ever possibly done this to her?) with Kavanaugh. But that doesn't mean she doesn't now believe what her mind spliced together.

    There's an amusing story by Robert Krulwich (co-host of Radiolab) on TAL about how he inadvertently spliced himself into one of his wife's stories about running into Jackie Kennedy, to the extent where it became HIS memory. He only understood what he had done after he realized that all the vivid and crystal-clear details he was remembering were TOO detailed for his human eyes to have actually witnessed.

    Again, 30 years can do a lot to memories, and seething resentment or propaganda about how all men are rapists can help with that. But that doesn't mean she's intentionally faking it. There can be a middle ground here.

  115. I think it is a simple as Ford is a lying asshole.

    • Replies: @miss marple
    I read this in a fortune cookie: To believe everything you hear is to be wrong 75% of the time. To doubt what you hear is to be right 75% of the time.

    Ok. So it was a Great Cookie Co. experimental giant fortune cookie...

    Also Tippie Hedron and Sally Field played the part of woman traumatized in childhood. Could be CBF first went to California to start an acting career.
  116. @Realist
    I think it is a simple as Ford is a lying asshole.

    I read this in a fortune cookie: To believe everything you hear is to be wrong 75% of the time. To doubt what you hear is to be right 75% of the time.

    Ok. So it was a Great Cookie Co. experimental giant fortune cookie…

    Also Tippie Hedron and Sally Field played the part of woman traumatized in childhood. Could be CBF first went to California to start an acting career.

    • Replies: @Realist

    Could be CBF first went to California to start an acting career.
     
    It's easy to see why she failed. While she certainly is as stupid as most actors/actress'...she has no acting ability.
  117. @notanon

    wasn’t Ford dating Kavanaugh’s friend at the time?
     
    it's the backdrop of "Officer and a Gentleman"

    girl from lower social class trying to land chad from higher social class through slooting (which almost never works) - she's still bitter about him *not* wanting her

    I’ve known women who allege “recovered memories” about sexual assault earlier in their lives. Dr. Ford’s description of the alleged assault perfectly fits the phenomenon of “recovered memories”: certainty about some aspects of the event wrapped in a complete inability to recall critical elements that would anchor the memories in reality.

    Then, there is the female phenomenon of “rape fantasies”. This is the Third Rail in any attempt to dialogue with a feminist. The official feminist ideology is that women do not have “rape fantasies” … immediately juxtaposed to women who admit having them.

    Indeed, “rape fantasies” are a major theme in the thinly-veiled Cinderella tales found in the popular Harlequin Romance paperbacks. I’ve found drawers full of them in the bedrooms of some female relatives. The Alpha Male in the typical storyline is so overcome with passion in the presence of the female protagonist that he cannot control himself. This is the climax (NPI) in which the female protagonist is finally assured that she has displaced the evil “princess” competing against her for the “prince’s” attention. Another name for this is “bodice ripping”. “Bodice ripping” is usually found at the end of a chapter toward the end of the book. The “prince” and his newfound “princess” live happily ever after.

    Christine’s “recovered memories” are consistent with fantasies she might have had of trying to capture the attention of an Alpha male in her high school social circle. An angry emotion that she “recovered” and that still haunts her is that she failed.

    • Replies: @notanon
    yes - although i'd say "rape" and "bodice-ripper" fantasies" are actually mostly "irresistible" fantasies i.e. fantasising about being irresistibly attractive to a man they want to have sex with.
  118. @miss marple
    I read this in a fortune cookie: To believe everything you hear is to be wrong 75% of the time. To doubt what you hear is to be right 75% of the time.

    Ok. So it was a Great Cookie Co. experimental giant fortune cookie...

    Also Tippie Hedron and Sally Field played the part of woman traumatized in childhood. Could be CBF first went to California to start an acting career.

    Could be CBF first went to California to start an acting career.

    It’s easy to see why she failed. While she certainly is as stupid as most actors/actress’…she has no acting ability.

  119. https://www.dailywire.com/news/36743/ginsburg-forgets-14th-amendment-audience-has-give-ryan-saavedra

    • Replies: @Steve from Detroit
    This. The Democrats are petrified that Ginsburg will not outlast Trump's Presidency, whether it's four or eight years, and that nomination will make the Kavanaugh imbroglio look like a pillow fight. It goes to show how completely surprised they were that Trump won, since Ginsburg could have simply stepped down and had Obama nominate someone (I'm looking at you, Merrick) in her place.

    As for the title of this post, when I heard Ford use the phrase "Indelible in the hippo campus" it removed any doubt that her allegations were truthful. It's certainly possible something happened to her, but what she described was fiction.
    , @Jack D
    This is mildly amusing but is just cheap point scoring. Not very bright Muslim teens memorize the entire Koran (80,000 words - US Constitution is only 7,500 words with the amendments) but this doesn't really prove anything (except that all humans have the capability for prodigious memorization if they apply themselves to it). Modern Western education is not based on rote learning.
    , @J.Ross
    As much as I hate Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Jack D is right about cheap point scoring: let's see Zodiac remember the less often discussed amendments when he is as very old and unwell as she is.
  120. @SND
    Avi is a man's name. Avi is a man. Don't you have any Israeli friends?

    It can also be short for Avigayil (Hebrew Abigael), though in this case it’s not. Avi is a guy.

  121. @bomag

    ‘Indelible In The Hippocampus Is Laughter’
     
    "I feared for my life; I was sexually assaulted; but the REALLY bad thing was the laughter."

    Reminds me of a Norm MacDonald bit on Cosby. “The worst part about it is the hypocrisy.”

  122. @larry lurker
    The first five YouTube results for "christine blasey ford hippocampus":

    TIME: Science Behind Christine Blasey Ford’s Testimony: 'Indelible In The Hippocampus Is Laughter'


    ABC News: Ford cites hippocampus in recollection of alleged assault


    CBS News: Christine Blasey Ford says she remembers "uproarious laughter" of alleged attackers


    USA TODAY: Christine Ford breaks down her trauma with science


    Washington Post: How Christine Blasey Ford used science to defend her allegations
     

    They should have made her pick Kavanaugh’s laughter out of a lineup.

  123. @Anon
    Hey Kavanaugh! Keep your rosaries off my ovaries!

    Hey Kavanaugh! Keep your rosaries off my ovaries!

    Hey lefties, keep your hysteria out of my area!

  124. @Rosamond Vincy
    Unless dating codes have undergone a massive overhaul, the boyfriend is the first person an Outrag'd Maiden would tell.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Dicksee-Chivalry-1885.jpg/220px-Dicksee-Chivalry-1885.jpg

    Beautiful painting. Deserves a bigger treatment:

    • Replies: @Buster Keaton’s Stunt Double
    The Pre-Raphaelites were the apex of Western visual expression.
  125. @Randall Burns
    Do you really think Kavanaugh was even sober during the hearings? I saw a red nosed drunk slurring his words. Kavanaugh switched between being combative and sobbing.

    That wasn’t a water bottle. It was vodka!

    • Replies: @Jack D
    When I saw the SNL version I thought they should have substituted beer bottles for the water bottles. That would have been a nice touch.

    What the hell is this modern obsession with bottled water? How much do the US tax payers pay for custom Congressional bottled water? Is the tap water of Washington unsafe to drink? What's wrong with a pitcher of cold tap water?
  126. @Ragno
    IMHO, it was Trump's reluctance to bring the hammer down that has caused, and is causing him so much difficulty with an ever-more crazed Democratic Party. (Example: he hasn't been confirmed three days yet, and yet Kavanaugh continues to be described in the press as a 'rapist', 'serial rapist', a crass Exploiter of Wimmins, and of course a (yawwwwn) standard-issue White Supremacist.) But Trump signed off on all of this, the day after his election when he publicly gave Hillary and her team a full walk a la Ford's reacharound to Nixon.

    There are some people in this world so desirous - demanding - of power that they will view any act of kindness or decency or chivalry as a momentary sign of weakness signalling them to redouble their attack. Unfortunately, the worst of these people are always found in our nation's capital. The moment Trump passed on investigating/prosecuting Queen Pantsuit, the bottom-feeders all decided on the spot that any such display of mercy could only be motivated by the rattling of Russian skeletons in Trump's walk-in closet....given the mind-boggling shelf-life of that Hail Mary bullshit story, I suppose we can look forward to endless Kavanaugh the Serial (Serial!) Rapist stories and references round the clock, or until American watches are finally wound to Charlie Hebdo Time. (Wouldn't be much of a solution, maybe, but far fewer citizens would object than would merely pretend to.)

    I suppose we can look forward to endless Kavanaugh the Serial (Serial!) Rapist stories

    Kavanaugh proclaimed at his hearing that he has hired only women as his clerks for the Supreme Court.

  127. @the one they call Desanex
    I’m pretty sure Sergio Aragones stole the idea from an article in the May 1971 issue of National Lampoon, “Toilets of the Extraterrestrials” by Peter Bramley.

    Oh dear, googled, and you appear to be right. Highly unlikely the satire magazines weren’t reading each other.

    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    I wanted to post a link to the article (only 2 pages), but all I could find was a giant PDF file of the whole issue, ads and all. Aragones was a very prolific gagster, so it’s not surprising that he swiped one here and there.
  128. @TheJester
    I've known women who allege "recovered memories" about sexual assault earlier in their lives. Dr. Ford's description of the alleged assault perfectly fits the phenomenon of "recovered memories": certainty about some aspects of the event wrapped in a complete inability to recall critical elements that would anchor the memories in reality.

    Then, there is the female phenomenon of "rape fantasies". This is the Third Rail in any attempt to dialogue with a feminist. The official feminist ideology is that women do not have "rape fantasies" ... immediately juxtaposed to women who admit having them.

    Indeed, "rape fantasies" are a major theme in the thinly-veiled Cinderella tales found in the popular Harlequin Romance paperbacks. I've found drawers full of them in the bedrooms of some female relatives. The Alpha Male in the typical storyline is so overcome with passion in the presence of the female protagonist that he cannot control himself. This is the climax (NPI) in which the female protagonist is finally assured that she has displaced the evil "princess" competing against her for the "prince's" attention. Another name for this is "bodice ripping". "Bodice ripping" is usually found at the end of a chapter toward the end of the book. The "prince" and his newfound "princess" live happily ever after.

    Christine's "recovered memories" are consistent with fantasies she might have had of trying to capture the attention of an Alpha male in her high school social circle. An angry emotion that she "recovered" and that still haunts her is that she failed.

    yes – although i’d say “rape” and “bodice-ripper” fantasies” are actually mostly “irresistible” fantasies i.e. fantasising about being irresistibly attractive to a man they want to have sex with.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    There are other elements to rape fantasies. One of them is that a lot of women feel guilty about having sex but if they are "raped" then the decision was not in their hands.
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    He has to be Alpha so she is Alpha--prototypes being Rhett Butler and Howard Roark.

    Note how Miranda in John Fowles' The Collector fantasizes about being dominated by the famous artist, but is indignant at being kidnapped by the dreary little clerk.

    Also, the women in the iconic bodice-rippers were tough cookies. They were "bold, passionate, Vixens" who deserved a man worthy of their Indomitable Spirits. They saved plantations, survived the Plague, sneaked nobles out of the French Revolution, and had time to do a pirate or a Plantagenet on the side.

    The recent trend towards wimpy "heroines" (50 Shades) is pathetic. Amber St. Clare would spit Plague microbes all over them, then toss them headfirst into the Great Fire of London.

  129. @Rosamond Vincy
    Oh dear, googled, and you appear to be right. Highly unlikely the satire magazines weren't reading each other.

    I wanted to post a link to the article (only 2 pages), but all I could find was a giant PDF file of the whole issue, ads and all. Aragones was a very prolific gagster, so it’s not surprising that he swiped one here and there.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    I found a capture, will post later.
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    Is this it?

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQn41cJdldiJjuWSY5zUSQPyDTC-5_xxx4Pxfp_ciNQpdL5oZiE
  130. @MEH 0910
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/36743/ginsburg-forgets-14th-amendment-audience-has-give-ryan-saavedra

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1048071489084219392

    This. The Democrats are petrified that Ginsburg will not outlast Trump’s Presidency, whether it’s four or eight years, and that nomination will make the Kavanaugh imbroglio look like a pillow fight. It goes to show how completely surprised they were that Trump won, since Ginsburg could have simply stepped down and had Obama nominate someone (I’m looking at you, Merrick) in her place.

    As for the title of this post, when I heard Ford use the phrase “Indelible in the hippo campus” it removed any doubt that her allegations were truthful. It’s certainly possible something happened to her, but what she described was fiction.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    "... and that nomination will make the Kavanaugh imbroglio look like a pillow fight. "

    Anything that makes the Kavanaugh imbroglio look like a pillow fight will rival the Civil War and the Great Depression, probably WW2 too.
  131. @MEH 0910
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/36743/ginsburg-forgets-14th-amendment-audience-has-give-ryan-saavedra

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1048071489084219392

    This is mildly amusing but is just cheap point scoring. Not very bright Muslim teens memorize the entire Koran (80,000 words – US Constitution is only 7,500 words with the amendments) but this doesn’t really prove anything (except that all humans have the capability for prodigious memorization if they apply themselves to it). Modern Western education is not based on rote learning.

  132. @Hippopotamusdrome
    That wasn't a water bottle. It was vodka!

    When I saw the SNL version I thought they should have substituted beer bottles for the water bottles. That would have been a nice touch.

    What the hell is this modern obsession with bottled water? How much do the US tax payers pay for custom Congressional bottled water? Is the tap water of Washington unsafe to drink? What’s wrong with a pitcher of cold tap water?

    • Replies: @Carbon blob
    "What the hell is this modern obsession with bottled water?"

    Tap water doesn't allow you to signal your allegiance to a brand.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    When I saw the SNL version I thought they should have substituted beer bottles for the water bottles. That would have been a nice touch.

     

    Canadian "stubbies" would have been even nicer.

    http://www.bobanddoug.com/pics/24_card_front.jpg

    What the hell is this modern obsession with bottled water? How much do the US tax payers pay for custom Congressional bottled water? Is the tap water of Washington unsafe to drink? What’s wrong with a pitcher of cold tap water?

     

    I remember when bottled water seemed downright un-American. Hey, it comes out of a faucet in the wall, free. Not like in Europe. There are probably buildings in the US that have more drinking fountains installed than there are in the entire EU.

    Now if it's naturally bubbly, then there's a case for it. Still, I was shocked to see working people in Florida drinking uncarbonated water from bottles as early as 1990. But then, that's what you'd expect in an alien landscape where signs tell you not to flush.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    What the hell is this modern obsession with bottled water?
     
    https://i.redd.it/7qnxon482umz.jpg
    , @Olorin
    Depends on where you live.

    If you own land whose well taps into pristine groundwater, and you pay through the nose to have it regularly tested, then pay through other orifices to install home water treatment facilities to remove proven agents of future sickness, then there's nothing wrong with tap water.

    If you live in a rural area where the aquifer is polluted with pesticides, herbicides, and nitrates, and where weird cancer clusters result (just one example I'm familiar with), or an urban area where toxic waste dumps burst into flames while leaking into the local water supply, and rains wash the air pollution into your reservoir, and nobody knows whether the municipal treatment regimes are in fact getting the birth control pills and pharmaceuticals out because nobody's smart enough or non-corrupt enough or has sufficient power or fluency in Ebonics to ask the right questions even if the "lab techs" had IQs over 85...then giving your kids tap water is People's Temple-tier.

    Fact is there is no longer any reason to trust tap water now that nonwhites and professional grifters are running big cities and their water systems. In some places for over 100 years and in many more for over half a century.

    That's why bottled water.

    , @Anonymous

    What the hell is this modern obsession with bottled water? How much do the US tax payers pay for custom Congressional bottled water? Is the tap water of Washington unsafe to drink? What’s wrong with a pitcher of cold tap water?
     
    Tap water, it is said, contains hormones from discarded birth control pills and from effluent of birth control pill users.
  133. @notanon
    yes - although i'd say "rape" and "bodice-ripper" fantasies" are actually mostly "irresistible" fantasies i.e. fantasising about being irresistibly attractive to a man they want to have sex with.

    There are other elements to rape fantasies. One of them is that a lot of women feel guilty about having sex but if they are “raped” then the decision was not in their hands.

    • Replies: @notanon
    yes
    , @Anonymous

    There are other elements to rape fantasies. One of them is that a lot of women feel guilty about having sex but if they are “raped” then the decision was not in their hands.
     
    Is there any evidence or research in support of this being an actual thing?
  134. @Jack D
    When I saw the SNL version I thought they should have substituted beer bottles for the water bottles. That would have been a nice touch.

    What the hell is this modern obsession with bottled water? How much do the US tax payers pay for custom Congressional bottled water? Is the tap water of Washington unsafe to drink? What's wrong with a pitcher of cold tap water?

    “What the hell is this modern obsession with bottled water?”

    Tap water doesn’t allow you to signal your allegiance to a brand.

  135. @Joe Walker
    Jews are only ever on one side - their own. Jews would support any policy that was good for them even if it led to the extinction of every gentile on earth.

    Jews are only ever on one side – their own. Jews would support any policy that was good for them even if it led to the extinction of every gentile on earth.

    Then how would they get their ten percent?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    And who would cut our lawns? Even in Israel they import Asian guest workers to do menial labor. They would be glad to use Palestinians if they didn't keep blowing themselves up.

    This goes back all the way to the time of Moses. In Deuteronomy 29, Moses says:


    All of you are standing today in the presence of the LORD your God—your leaders and chief men, your elders and officials, and all the other men of Israel, 11 together with your children and your wives, and the foreigners living in your camps who chop your wood and carry your water.

     

    Jews have never wanted to exterminate all gentiles any more than American whites were ever interested in genociding blacks, even in the worst days of Jim Crow - that is just pure projection by anti-Semites.
    , @Joe Walker
    I guess they would have to start exploiting each other.
  136. @Tiny Duck
    The idea that Ford is right about the assault and wrong about the assaulter is far less likely than her being right or wrong about both. But this has become the default GOP position because they're too cowardly to either call her a liar or admit they don’t care even if it’s true.

    What the GOP has done has angered many he REAL Americans

    We see the evil and the lies

    We are going to slaughter you fools in the midterms and then impeach kavsnaugh and trump


    Read Leonard Pitts and Matthew Dowd

    There may be a silver lining here. After watching every night one black person after another testify falsely to the news cameras in Ferguson – I found I no longer believed anything a black person said. I just couldn’t credit any opinion or testimony about anything if if were spoken from a black face. I know there must be some black somewhere who has spoken the truth about something sometime. But after Ferguson I couldn’t make myself listen seriously to anything any black said.

    Steve’s recent twitter poll shows that most of the readership think she was simply lying. Me too.

    The Democrats had trumpeted their willingness to do anything to block Kavanaugh. I also believe them. They seem to have created this false narrative. In the near future we may learn how Democrat operatives recruited Ford and coached her. That may explain why there were so many holes in her story. It was just specific enough to elicit sympathy but not specific enough that it could be used in a perjury charge against her. The FBI could not possibly conclude that no such event took place. If she had said that it had taken place on a specific date at a specific address it would be easy to falsify the story with some contravening evidence. But by making it so vague – Ford is immune from prosecution.

    But America has seen her and will remember. Some time in the future at a weak rape trial where the major evidence against some man is just the woman’s word, someone in the jury room will remember the Ford-Kavanaugh case.

    All over America guys are today less likely to believe a woman’s testimony than they once were. Just as our assumptions about black male entertainers were forever changed by O.J. Simpson and Bill Cosby.

  137. @Jack D
    When I saw the SNL version I thought they should have substituted beer bottles for the water bottles. That would have been a nice touch.

    What the hell is this modern obsession with bottled water? How much do the US tax payers pay for custom Congressional bottled water? Is the tap water of Washington unsafe to drink? What's wrong with a pitcher of cold tap water?

    When I saw the SNL version I thought they should have substituted beer bottles for the water bottles. That would have been a nice touch.

    Canadian “stubbies” would have been even nicer.

    What the hell is this modern obsession with bottled water? How much do the US tax payers pay for custom Congressional bottled water? Is the tap water of Washington unsafe to drink? What’s wrong with a pitcher of cold tap water?

    I remember when bottled water seemed downright un-American. Hey, it comes out of a faucet in the wall, free. Not like in Europe. There are probably buildings in the US that have more drinking fountains installed than there are in the entire EU.

    Now if it’s naturally bubbly, then there’s a case for it. Still, I was shocked to see working people in Florida drinking uncarbonated water from bottles as early as 1990. But then, that’s what you’d expect in an alien landscape where signs tell you not to flush.

    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    Good day, eh!
  138. @the one they call Desanex
    I wanted to post a link to the article (only 2 pages), but all I could find was a giant PDF file of the whole issue, ads and all. Aragones was a very prolific gagster, so it’s not surprising that he swiped one here and there.

    I found a capture, will post later.

  139. @notanon
    yes - although i'd say "rape" and "bodice-ripper" fantasies" are actually mostly "irresistible" fantasies i.e. fantasising about being irresistibly attractive to a man they want to have sex with.

    He has to be Alpha so she is Alpha–prototypes being Rhett Butler and Howard Roark.

    Note how Miranda in John Fowles’ The Collector fantasizes about being dominated by the famous artist, but is indignant at being kidnapped by the dreary little clerk.

    Also, the women in the iconic bodice-rippers were tough cookies. They were “bold, passionate, Vixens” who deserved a man worthy of their Indomitable Spirits. They saved plantations, survived the Plague, sneaked nobles out of the French Revolution, and had time to do a pirate or a Plantagenet on the side.

    The recent trend towards wimpy “heroines” (50 Shades) is pathetic. Amber St. Clare would spit Plague microbes all over them, then toss them headfirst into the Great Fire of London.

    • Replies: @notanon

    He has to be Alpha so she is Alpha
     
    yes - it's all very HBD when you think about it
  140. @Reg Cæsar

    Jews are only ever on one side – their own. Jews would support any policy that was good for them even if it led to the extinction of every gentile on earth.

     

    Then how would they get their ten percent?

    And who would cut our lawns? Even in Israel they import Asian guest workers to do menial labor. They would be glad to use Palestinians if they didn’t keep blowing themselves up.

    This goes back all the way to the time of Moses. In Deuteronomy 29, Moses says:

    All of you are standing today in the presence of the LORD your God—your leaders and chief men, your elders and officials, and all the other men of Israel, 11 together with your children and your wives, and the foreigners living in your camps who chop your wood and carry your water.

    Jews have never wanted to exterminate all gentiles any more than American whites were ever interested in genociding blacks, even in the worst days of Jim Crow – that is just pure projection by anti-Semites.

    • Replies: @Joe Walker
    So you admit that Jews see gentiles as nothing more than slaves and servants?
    , @ben tillman

    Jews have never wanted to exterminate all gentiles any more than American whites were ever interested in genociding blacks, even in the worst days of Jim Crow – that is just pure projection by anti-Semites.
     
    It's not about "Jews", Jack. It's about the Jews -- the organized Jewish community. And the organized Jewish community is promoting policies that indicate that it wants to exterminate the white race. ("We are presumed to intend the natural consequences of our acts.") Whether any specific Jew consciously wants that result is of no importance.
    , @Anonymous
    Jews do not want to exterminate gentiles as such. No Jew wants to live in a world of nothing but Jews.

    Meir Kahane wanted Jews to live in a country only filled with Jews and he was not especially popular with Jews. BTW it was my reading Kahane, more than Pierce, Oliver or Covington, which formed my views on white nationalism .

    While Jews no more want to exterminate gentiles than cattle ranchers want to exterminate cattle, certainly some would prefer that one particular breed be mixed into nonexistence as a "pure" breed, since like the Texas Longhorn breed they were apt to attack their owners.

    However, since the Longhorns are not quite as stupid as their owners think and because they have been given some good ideas by their betters, those jews that do not favor this course of action might be wise to curb the tendencies of their congeners to do this, lest unfortunate events of the last century recur.


    One may see a good analogy in the cattle that are raised in the southwestern part of the United States. For a long time, the favorite breed was the ‘Texas Long-horn,’ which was hardy, able to fight off coyotes and other predators, and to survive in the wilds until it was rounded up by the cowboys for a long drive to the market, but it was also a dangerous animal that would attack its owners when provoked. It is now virtually extinct, having been replaced on the ranches by more docile breeds, such as the ‘Black Angus,’ since the predators have been exterminated and the cattle now graze within fences or are simply fattened on corn provided for them, and the vigor of the potentially dangerous ‘Longhorn’ is no longer needed, while the more docile and sluggish animals yield more tender meat.

    Early in the Twentieth Century, Aryans had, for all practical purposes, subjugated the entire world and made it everywhere both safe and convenient for the Jews, whereas events in Germany in the 1930s proved that Aryans could be dangerous to the Master Race, if they got out of control. Elimination of the species seems therefore a logical step for the self-styled ‘God-people.’
     
    Revilo P. Oliver
  141. @Jack D
    When I saw the SNL version I thought they should have substituted beer bottles for the water bottles. That would have been a nice touch.

    What the hell is this modern obsession with bottled water? How much do the US tax payers pay for custom Congressional bottled water? Is the tap water of Washington unsafe to drink? What's wrong with a pitcher of cold tap water?

    What the hell is this modern obsession with bottled water?

  142. @Steve in Greensboro
    Thinking people understand that Miss Blasey collaborated with her FBI "beach friend" Miss McLean to construct a pretty feeble defamatory hoax with the goal of derailing the Kavanaugh nomination.

    Politicians pretend to "find Miss Blasey credible", but that is merely a political ruse to avoid being shrieked at by feminist harpies.

    But nobody really believes her anymore. Note how quickly Miss Blasey indicated her unwillingness to support the impeachment fantasies of the fever swamp left.

    As first anon said, many people confuse “credibility” with “she givz me feelz.”

    From a reporting or comms perspective it’s akin to the phenomenon in social “sciences” research where we refer to statistical reliability and validity. Those terms have a specific technical meaning, framed in quantitative testing. By contrast, to the average person, “these findings are reliable and valid” means something more instinctive and emotive.

    I flashed to one of the Black’s Law Dictionary minnows that swim in the sea of my brain:

    Competency is for the court; credibility for the jury.

    The left/MSM played this whole matter as reality TV, where their targeted viewers were the jury. The politicians you refer to are aligning with this.

    From Black’s:

    COMPETENCY. In the law of evidence. The presence of those characteristics, or the absence of those disabilities, which render a witness legally fit and qualified to give testimony in a court of justice. The term is also applied, in the same sense, to documents or other written evidence. Competency differs from credibility. The former is a question which arises before considering the evidence given by the witness; the latter concerns the degree of credit to be given to his story. The former denotes the personal qualification of the witness; the latter his veracity. A witness may be competent, and yet give incredible testimony; he may be incompetent, and yet his evidence, if received, be perfectly credible. Competency is for the court; credibility for the jury. Yet in some cases the term “credible” is used as an equivalent for “competent.” Thus, in a statute relating to the execution of wills, the term “credible witness” is held to mean one who is entitled to be examined and to give evidence. In a court of justice; not necessarily one who is personally worthy of belief, but one who is not disqualified by imbecility, interest, crime, or other cause. 1 Jarm. Wills, 124; Smith v. Jones. OS Vt 132, 34 Atl. 424; Com. v. Holmes, 127 Mass. 424, 34 Am. Rep. 301.

    Now test Blasey against that in your own mind.

  143. @Jack D
    When I saw the SNL version I thought they should have substituted beer bottles for the water bottles. That would have been a nice touch.

    What the hell is this modern obsession with bottled water? How much do the US tax payers pay for custom Congressional bottled water? Is the tap water of Washington unsafe to drink? What's wrong with a pitcher of cold tap water?

    Depends on where you live.

    If you own land whose well taps into pristine groundwater, and you pay through the nose to have it regularly tested, then pay through other orifices to install home water treatment facilities to remove proven agents of future sickness, then there’s nothing wrong with tap water.

    If you live in a rural area where the aquifer is polluted with pesticides, herbicides, and nitrates, and where weird cancer clusters result (just one example I’m familiar with), or an urban area where toxic waste dumps burst into flames while leaking into the local water supply, and rains wash the air pollution into your reservoir, and nobody knows whether the municipal treatment regimes are in fact getting the birth control pills and pharmaceuticals out because nobody’s smart enough or non-corrupt enough or has sufficient power or fluency in Ebonics to ask the right questions even if the “lab techs” had IQs over 85…then giving your kids tap water is People’s Temple-tier.

    Fact is there is no longer any reason to trust tap water now that nonwhites and professional grifters are running big cities and their water systems. In some places for over 100 years and in many more for over half a century.

    That’s why bottled water.

  144. @Jack D
    There are other elements to rape fantasies. One of them is that a lot of women feel guilty about having sex but if they are "raped" then the decision was not in their hands.

    yes

  145. @Rosamond Vincy
    He has to be Alpha so she is Alpha--prototypes being Rhett Butler and Howard Roark.

    Note how Miranda in John Fowles' The Collector fantasizes about being dominated by the famous artist, but is indignant at being kidnapped by the dreary little clerk.

    Also, the women in the iconic bodice-rippers were tough cookies. They were "bold, passionate, Vixens" who deserved a man worthy of their Indomitable Spirits. They saved plantations, survived the Plague, sneaked nobles out of the French Revolution, and had time to do a pirate or a Plantagenet on the side.

    The recent trend towards wimpy "heroines" (50 Shades) is pathetic. Amber St. Clare would spit Plague microbes all over them, then toss them headfirst into the Great Fire of London.

    He has to be Alpha so she is Alpha

    yes – it’s all very HBD when you think about it

  146. @the one they call Desanex
    I wanted to post a link to the article (only 2 pages), but all I could find was a giant PDF file of the whole issue, ads and all. Aragones was a very prolific gagster, so it’s not surprising that he swiped one here and there.
    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    That’s it. You can see it better here

    http://www.luckyfrogfarms.com/cook/NL/1970's/1971/1971_05.pdf
    but you’ll have to scroll down to page 30. It was spread across 2 facing pages, and some of the middle bits get lost.

  147. @Rosamond Vincy
    Is this it?

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQn41cJdldiJjuWSY5zUSQPyDTC-5_xxx4Pxfp_ciNQpdL5oZiE

    That’s it. You can see it better here

    http://www.luckyfrogfarms.com/cook/NL/1970’s/1971/1971_05.pdf
    but you’ll have to scroll down to page 30. It was spread across 2 facing pages, and some of the middle bits get lost.

    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    Sorry, the link doesn’t seem to work here.
  148. @Wally
    The Nutty Professor:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/images/bucket/2018-10/209519_5_.jpg

    She’s starting to look like the Empress of Chappaqua after having polished off two bottles of chardonnay.

  149. @the one they call Desanex
    That’s it. You can see it better here

    http://www.luckyfrogfarms.com/cook/NL/1970's/1971/1971_05.pdf
    but you’ll have to scroll down to page 30. It was spread across 2 facing pages, and some of the middle bits get lost.

    Sorry, the link doesn’t seem to work here.

  150. @HA
    "You may be on to something. Adam Carolla said on his podcast that his years of experience on Loveline led him to believe that something had happened to her. "

    From the Loveline wiki:


    The Little Girl Voice is an informal name for a vocal trait in adult women that is caused by psychological trauma before the onset of puberty. Women that are affected speak in a higher sounding, child-like pattern, usually in a manner similar to the age at which they suffered the traumatic event.

    Dr. Drew frequently uses this as a cue when talking to female callers, in order to better understand the cause of their problems. He is so practiced at noticing it that he can often guess down to a 6 month period in the woman's life when she was traumatized...

    Despite its lack of formal research, many others in the mental health field to have noticed this pattern too, though detecting it correctly requires practice. Laypeople with sufficient experience can learn to pick up on it, though they can sometimes be mistaken if person merely has a high-pitched voice. Drew often suggests closing one's eyes and imagining that you know nothing about the speaker (including their real age) and concentrating on how old the speaker makes you feel like they are.
     

    I listened to enough Lovelines to know how the rest of the diagnosis falls into line. 1) She was abused at a young age (fixing the vocal manner), as she got older 2) she was promiscuous, 3) resorted to drugs or alcohol, and 4) associated with abusers. Apparently there is some talk that 2&3 occurred. Given the situation, YMMV as to whether that’s true. I guess Carolla deduced 4 from the other three.

    I’m not sure how much faith one should put in rule-of-thumb diagnosis from radio talk-show hosts, experienced or not. Moreover, I’m not sure it matters.

    Her story is not credible, it is full of holes, deception, and lacking in any back up. There’s no reason to think Kavanaugh had anything to do with her.

    I think what Ford’s role is basically a lair-for-hire in a smear campaign. That’s pretty messed up. Maybe she did such a messed up thing because she’s a messed up person which was the result of abuse. That’s just speculation of course. YMMV.

  151. @Reg Cæsar

    Jews are only ever on one side – their own. Jews would support any policy that was good for them even if it led to the extinction of every gentile on earth.

     

    Then how would they get their ten percent?

    I guess they would have to start exploiting each other.

  152. @Jack D
    And who would cut our lawns? Even in Israel they import Asian guest workers to do menial labor. They would be glad to use Palestinians if they didn't keep blowing themselves up.

    This goes back all the way to the time of Moses. In Deuteronomy 29, Moses says:


    All of you are standing today in the presence of the LORD your God—your leaders and chief men, your elders and officials, and all the other men of Israel, 11 together with your children and your wives, and the foreigners living in your camps who chop your wood and carry your water.

     

    Jews have never wanted to exterminate all gentiles any more than American whites were ever interested in genociding blacks, even in the worst days of Jim Crow - that is just pure projection by anti-Semites.

    So you admit that Jews see gentiles as nothing more than slaves and servants?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    So you admit that white gentiles see non-whites as nothing more than slaves and servants?

    Actually nowadays Jews see gentiles as husband and wives, in-laws, friends, colleagues at work, etc., etc.
  153. @MEH 0910
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/36743/ginsburg-forgets-14th-amendment-audience-has-give-ryan-saavedra

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1048071489084219392

    As much as I hate Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Jack D is right about cheap point scoring: let’s see Zodiac remember the less often discussed amendments when he is as very old and unwell as she is.

  154. Funny, I followed the whole stinkin’ soap opera, and not once did I hear any “Republican” suggest anything remotely like that. It quickly became evident that she couldn’t even lie convincingly. Was he trying to make people believe that she was permanently limited to the mental maturity of a 12 year old?

  155. @SND
    Avi is a man's name. Avi is a man. Don't you have any Israeli friends?

    A lot of Israeli names are “reversible.”

  156. @Reg Cæsar

    When I saw the SNL version I thought they should have substituted beer bottles for the water bottles. That would have been a nice touch.

     

    Canadian "stubbies" would have been even nicer.

    http://www.bobanddoug.com/pics/24_card_front.jpg

    What the hell is this modern obsession with bottled water? How much do the US tax payers pay for custom Congressional bottled water? Is the tap water of Washington unsafe to drink? What’s wrong with a pitcher of cold tap water?

     

    I remember when bottled water seemed downright un-American. Hey, it comes out of a faucet in the wall, free. Not like in Europe. There are probably buildings in the US that have more drinking fountains installed than there are in the entire EU.

    Now if it's naturally bubbly, then there's a case for it. Still, I was shocked to see working people in Florida drinking uncarbonated water from bottles as early as 1990. But then, that's what you'd expect in an alien landscape where signs tell you not to flush.

    Good day, eh!

  157. @Thea
    Look, most just don’t care what happened 36 years ago. And we are sick of feminists. Sorry it may be petty but my knee jerk reaction is that I don’t believe you.


    Far be it for me to suggest teenagers shouldn’t attend unsupervised mixed-sex drinking parties in the first place. Both behaved badly.

    Both behaved badly.

    Kavanaugh wasn’t there.

  158. @JimB

    But nobody really believes her anymore. Note how quickly Miss Blasey indicated her unwillingness to support the impeachment fantasies of the fever swamp left.
     
    It's just as well for Blasey Ford to lay low, now. She sprang three perjury traps, and her letter to the judiciary committee may have been co-authored or ghost written by Monica McLean. With any luck, Ford will be allowed slip back into obscurity without being prosecuted.

    I wonder if donations to her GoFundMe page have tapered off.

    She sprang three perjury traps, and her letter to the judiciary committee may have been co-authored or ghost written by Monica McLean. With any luck, Ford will be allowed slip back into obscurity without being prosecuted.

    Blase Ford needs to be prosecuted for perjury. McLean needs to be prosecuted for witness tampering.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Call me when the trial starts.
  159. @El Dato
    Totally not at all.

    Memory formation is very physical process of imperfect storage / imperfect retrieval (with holes filled in pragmatically with whatever fits) involving the hippocampal region, though how it actually works is still not well elucidated. AFAIK there is no model covering all the cranky phenomena that have been classified over decades.

    Memory formation is very physical process of imperfect storage / imperfect retrieval (with holes filled in pragmatically with whatever fits)

    Did you ‘remember’ that? How do you know? Why should we believe you when you think “Memory formation is very physical process of imperfect storage / imperfect retrieval (with holes filled in pragmatically with whatever fits)“?

    Asking for a friend ™.

  160. the politically convenient, scientifically baseless theory that sexual assault so traumatized Christine Blasey Ford she mixed up her attacker is now something like common wisdom

    No. Almost no one believes that.

    She was just flat-out lying.

  161. “Yes and CBF likely knows this information too. I really don’t understand why some of you believe she couldn’t possibly be faking it and be convincing while acting the part.”

    Because she didn’t go full Jackie. (You never go full Jackie.)

    Even Jackie didn’t go “full Jackie”. Sabrina Rubin Erdely published the story.

  162. @miss marple
    Yes and CBF likely knows this information too. I really don't understand why some of you believe she couldn't possibly be faking it and be convincing while acting the part.

    Yes and CBF likely knows this information too. I really don’t understand why some of you believe she couldn’t possibly be faking it and be convincing while acting the part.

    Because she didn’t go full Jackie. (You never go full Jackie.) There was no shattered glass table, she was not stuffed into a garbage bag with dog excrement. If she were making it up from scratch, she’d probably:

    1) pick something a little more headline-worthy

    2) run her story by her friend in order to get at least some backup and fill in the holes

    I’m willing to believe something like this happened because something like this has probably happened in every other alcohol-fueled teenage party or get-together, whether in the 80’s or since.

    Does that mean the story is accurate? No. Look at Debra Ramirez. A few weeks ago she couldn’t be sure it was Kavanaugh who flashed and prodded her, but after 6 days of “assessing” memories with her lawyer, she’s suddenly sure. And here’s the thing, she may well sincerely believe that now. In that sense, even though she willed herself into photoshopping Kavanaugh into her story, she’s not technically lying, or however George Costanza would put it. Same thing could have happened with Ford. I’d be willing to bet that thirty years of teenage resentment (and more recently, stories about how Republicans are waging a war on women’s bodies and so forth) can do as much or more as 6 days of lawyer-assisted assessing, when it comes to switching out whoever did this to her (and again, how hard is it to believe that no one could have ever possibly done this to her?) with Kavanaugh. But that doesn’t mean she doesn’t now believe what her mind spliced together.

    There’s an amusing story by Robert Krulwich (co-host of Radiolab) on TAL about how he inadvertently spliced himself into one of his wife’s stories about running into Jackie Kennedy, to the extent where it became HIS memory. He only understood what he had done after he realized that all the vivid and crystal-clear details he was remembering were TOO detailed for his human eyes to have actually witnessed.

    Again, 30 years can do a lot to memories, and seething resentment or propaganda about how all men are rapists can help with that. But that doesn’t mean she’s intentionally faking it. There can be a middle ground here.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    I’m willing to believe something like this happened because something like this has probably happened in every other alcohol-fueled teenage party or get-together, whether in the 80′s or since.
     
    Do you have knowledge of a single specific instance of "something like this happening" at a teenage party?
  163. @Charles Erwin Wilson

    She sprang three perjury traps, and her letter to the judiciary committee may have been co-authored or ghost written by Monica McLean. With any luck, Ford will be allowed slip back into obscurity without being prosecuted.
     
    Blase Ford needs to be prosecuted for perjury. McLean needs to be prosecuted for witness tampering.

    Call me when the trial starts.

  164. @Jack D
    And who would cut our lawns? Even in Israel they import Asian guest workers to do menial labor. They would be glad to use Palestinians if they didn't keep blowing themselves up.

    This goes back all the way to the time of Moses. In Deuteronomy 29, Moses says:


    All of you are standing today in the presence of the LORD your God—your leaders and chief men, your elders and officials, and all the other men of Israel, 11 together with your children and your wives, and the foreigners living in your camps who chop your wood and carry your water.

     

    Jews have never wanted to exterminate all gentiles any more than American whites were ever interested in genociding blacks, even in the worst days of Jim Crow - that is just pure projection by anti-Semites.

    Jews have never wanted to exterminate all gentiles any more than American whites were ever interested in genociding blacks, even in the worst days of Jim Crow – that is just pure projection by anti-Semites.

    It’s not about “Jews”, Jack. It’s about the Jews — the organized Jewish community. And the organized Jewish community is promoting policies that indicate that it wants to exterminate the white race. (“We are presumed to intend the natural consequences of our acts.”) Whether any specific Jew consciously wants that result is of no importance.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    (“We are presumed to intend the natural consequences of our acts.”)
     
    What is this from?
  165. @Marat
    Rachel Mitchell picked up on the bs too:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gKa8ZIwE7g&t=2507s

    Start at 1:01:10 and play to the end.

    Note that Mitchell approaches by first buttering up Ford by re-iterating that Ford had mentioned norepinepherine and epinepherine ... Ford took the bait and hammed it up with the smile and the attorneys chimed in. Mitchell continued by mentioning researchers in the field of child abuse ... oh, Out Of Time!! That is where this seasoned professional was leading, and she barely got it in before the last 5-minute gong. You can be sure that was no coincidence.


    Recall that Mitchell had earlier questioned Ford about who paid for the polygraph, to the great annoyance of the attorneys. Ford skillfully avoided answering by offering up other information with a cutesy smile. Mitchell has seen it all before.

    If either of these 2 lawyers has a license in any red or even purple state immediate action is called for. California will protect them for sure. Testifying for the client? That really enhances her credibility!

  166. @Anonymous
    Kneeling is cultural appropriation

    https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleTwitter/comments/9m5mqu/women_are_kneeling_in_protest_now_cant_have/

    Rumor has it that Mr. Dolphin keeps a 1o gauge on a rack in the kitchen, Mr. Alumnus.

  167. @PhysicistDave
    anon[335] wrote:

    I don’t think credible is what people meant. I think it her testimony evoked empathy from listeners. Even if it didn’t, people can’t say it without seeming callous.
     
    Yeah. People also meant that based on her testimony alone, she might well have been telling the truth. I.e., it was not obvious from her demeanor, etc., that she was lying.

    I found her demeanor a bit odd, but I know too much about humans' inability to judge others' truthfulness by merely observing them for me to believe that I could tell whether she or Kavanaugh was telling the truth.

    After all, if we were really good at judging other people's truthfulness, then actors, politicians, and con artists would not be able to earn a living.

    I still do not know what, if anything, happened. I know she lied about the supposed fear of flying, and I know that Kavanaugh drank too much as an adolescent. And, I know that the corroborating evidence that might have existed doesn't.

    So, I can't accept setting the precedent of ruining a person's life due to allegations that cannot be corroborated. That could destroy a society.

    Her evasiveness was obvious to me.

  168. CBF’s testimony was indistinguishable from one in which she made the entire thing up. That is by far the most important fact here.

  169. @Steve from Detroit
    This. The Democrats are petrified that Ginsburg will not outlast Trump's Presidency, whether it's four or eight years, and that nomination will make the Kavanaugh imbroglio look like a pillow fight. It goes to show how completely surprised they were that Trump won, since Ginsburg could have simply stepped down and had Obama nominate someone (I'm looking at you, Merrick) in her place.

    As for the title of this post, when I heard Ford use the phrase "Indelible in the hippo campus" it removed any doubt that her allegations were truthful. It's certainly possible something happened to her, but what she described was fiction.

    “… and that nomination will make the Kavanaugh imbroglio look like a pillow fight. ”

    Anything that makes the Kavanaugh imbroglio look like a pillow fight will rival the Civil War and the Great Depression, probably WW2 too.

  170. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    And who would cut our lawns? Even in Israel they import Asian guest workers to do menial labor. They would be glad to use Palestinians if they didn't keep blowing themselves up.

    This goes back all the way to the time of Moses. In Deuteronomy 29, Moses says:


    All of you are standing today in the presence of the LORD your God—your leaders and chief men, your elders and officials, and all the other men of Israel, 11 together with your children and your wives, and the foreigners living in your camps who chop your wood and carry your water.

     

    Jews have never wanted to exterminate all gentiles any more than American whites were ever interested in genociding blacks, even in the worst days of Jim Crow - that is just pure projection by anti-Semites.

    Jews do not want to exterminate gentiles as such. No Jew wants to live in a world of nothing but Jews.

    Meir Kahane wanted Jews to live in a country only filled with Jews and he was not especially popular with Jews. BTW it was my reading Kahane, more than Pierce, Oliver or Covington, which formed my views on white nationalism .

    While Jews no more want to exterminate gentiles than cattle ranchers want to exterminate cattle, certainly some would prefer that one particular breed be mixed into nonexistence as a “pure” breed, since like the Texas Longhorn breed they were apt to attack their owners.

    However, since the Longhorns are not quite as stupid as their owners think and because they have been given some good ideas by their betters, those jews that do not favor this course of action might be wise to curb the tendencies of their congeners to do this, lest unfortunate events of the last century recur.

    One may see a good analogy in the cattle that are raised in the southwestern part of the United States. For a long time, the favorite breed was the ‘Texas Long-horn,’ which was hardy, able to fight off coyotes and other predators, and to survive in the wilds until it was rounded up by the cowboys for a long drive to the market, but it was also a dangerous animal that would attack its owners when provoked. It is now virtually extinct, having been replaced on the ranches by more docile breeds, such as the ‘Black Angus,’ since the predators have been exterminated and the cattle now graze within fences or are simply fattened on corn provided for them, and the vigor of the potentially dangerous ‘Longhorn’ is no longer needed, while the more docile and sluggish animals yield more tender meat.

    Early in the Twentieth Century, Aryans had, for all practical purposes, subjugated the entire world and made it everywhere both safe and convenient for the Jews, whereas events in Germany in the 1930s proved that Aryans could be dangerous to the Master Race, if they got out of control. Elimination of the species seems therefore a logical step for the self-styled ‘God-people.’

    Revilo P. Oliver

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Meir Kahane wanted Jews to live in a country only filled with Jews and he was not especially popular with Jews. BTW it was my reading Kahane, more than Pierce, Oliver or Covington, which formed my views on white nationalism .
     
    What are your views on White nationalism? (Less importantly, what of Kahane did you read?)

    certainly some would prefer that one particular breed be mixed into nonexistence as a “pure” breed, since like the Texas Longhorn breed they were apt to attack their owners.
     
    But this is Jewish apologetics. The fear isn't so much that they will attack their owners as it is that they will outcompete the owners and win the sexual affections of the owners' offspring.
  171. @Joe Walker
    So you admit that Jews see gentiles as nothing more than slaves and servants?

    So you admit that white gentiles see non-whites as nothing more than slaves and servants?

    Actually nowadays Jews see gentiles as husband and wives, in-laws, friends, colleagues at work, etc., etc.

  172. @Alden
    The 3 witnesses Ford mentioned all had their attorneys write letters to the Juduciary committte that they had no recollection of attending such a party with Kavanauugh and Ford

    One of the so called witnessesstated she never met kavanaugh

    And it wasn’t a party. In her first lying letter to her Congress critter she claimed it was a party. Then she changed her mind. By the time of the hearing she claimed only 5 people went to the empty house of a stranger went right upstairs to a bedroom and kavanaugh attacked her. The 3 people she claimed were there all deny it.

    I just realized that according to Ford’s revised acount, Kavanaugh and Judge would’ve been in a stranger’s house. Which implies they would have walked into someone else’s bedroom with music ALREADY playing and turned it up. This would never happen. Music playing in someone’s room indicates it is either occupied or that a person was recently there. You wouldn’t go into a room like this in a stranger’s house. Christine’s replay of this event assumed Kav’s bedroom in her mind and made him adjust his stereo in her retelling. Another fake detail that reveals the lie.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    If two guys go into a room in someone else's house, either they are gay or they are about to smoke something they don't want to share with anyone else, even the host.
    Not sharing your stash with the host is extremely poor form.
  173. @HA
    "Yes and CBF likely knows this information too. I really don’t understand why some of you believe she couldn’t possibly be faking it and be convincing while acting the part."

    Because she didn't go full Jackie. (You never go full Jackie.) There was no shattered glass table, she was not stuffed into a garbage bag with dog excrement. If she were making it up from scratch, she'd probably:

    1) pick something a little more headline-worthy

    2) run her story by her friend in order to get at least some backup and fill in the holes

    I'm willing to believe something like this happened because something like this has probably happened in every other alcohol-fueled teenage party or get-together, whether in the 80's or since.

    Does that mean the story is accurate? No. Look at Debra Ramirez. A few weeks ago she couldn't be sure it was Kavanaugh who flashed and prodded her, but after 6 days of "assessing" memories with her lawyer, she's suddenly sure. And here's the thing, she may well sincerely believe that now. In that sense, even though she willed herself into photoshopping Kavanaugh into her story, she's not technically lying, or however George Costanza would put it. Same thing could have happened with Ford. I'd be willing to bet that thirty years of teenage resentment (and more recently, stories about how Republicans are waging a war on women's bodies and so forth) can do as much or more as 6 days of lawyer-assisted assessing, when it comes to switching out whoever did this to her (and again, how hard is it to believe that no one could have ever possibly done this to her?) with Kavanaugh. But that doesn't mean she doesn't now believe what her mind spliced together.

    There's an amusing story by Robert Krulwich (co-host of Radiolab) on TAL about how he inadvertently spliced himself into one of his wife's stories about running into Jackie Kennedy, to the extent where it became HIS memory. He only understood what he had done after he realized that all the vivid and crystal-clear details he was remembering were TOO detailed for his human eyes to have actually witnessed.

    Again, 30 years can do a lot to memories, and seething resentment or propaganda about how all men are rapists can help with that. But that doesn't mean she's intentionally faking it. There can be a middle ground here.

    I’m willing to believe something like this happened because something like this has probably happened in every other alcohol-fueled teenage party or get-together, whether in the 80′s or since.

    Do you have knowledge of a single specific instance of “something like this happening” at a teenage party?

    • Replies: @HA
    "Do you have knowledge of a single specific instance of “something like this happening” at a teenage party?"

    I myself only got to hang out with the stoner/raver set after my own teenage years had elapsed, and that was only as an observer, but I'll bet good money that the things I saw or heard about didn't magically materialize on their 20th birthdays. To the extent you doubt that, you would do well to talk to more women (and not just the white ones, either. Then again, to the extent the women you come in contact with can in unison claim that this kind of thing wasn't a frequent occurrence among their circle of friends, consider both you and them blessed and maybe leave it at that. Innocence is underrated in today's world.)

  174. @ben tillman

    Jews have never wanted to exterminate all gentiles any more than American whites were ever interested in genociding blacks, even in the worst days of Jim Crow – that is just pure projection by anti-Semites.
     
    It's not about "Jews", Jack. It's about the Jews -- the organized Jewish community. And the organized Jewish community is promoting policies that indicate that it wants to exterminate the white race. ("We are presumed to intend the natural consequences of our acts.") Whether any specific Jew consciously wants that result is of no importance.

    (“We are presumed to intend the natural consequences of our acts.”)

    What is this from?

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    It's just a fundamental legal principle.
  175. @Perelandra
    I just realized that according to Ford's revised acount, Kavanaugh and Judge would've been in a stranger's house. Which implies they would have walked into someone else's bedroom with music ALREADY playing and turned it up. This would never happen. Music playing in someone's room indicates it is either occupied or that a person was recently there. You wouldn't go into a room like this in a stranger's house. Christine's replay of this event assumed Kav's bedroom in her mind and made him adjust his stereo in her retelling. Another fake detail that reveals the lie.

    If two guys go into a room in someone else’s house, either they are gay or they are about to smoke something they don’t want to share with anyone else, even the host.
    Not sharing your stash with the host is extremely poor form.

  176. @Svigor
    Beautiful painting. Deserves a bigger treatment:

    http://blistar.net/images/photos/325a204c42b1a34fda975dcb9e58c205.jpg

    The Pre-Raphaelites were the apex of Western visual expression.

  177. Anonymous[156] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    When I saw the SNL version I thought they should have substituted beer bottles for the water bottles. That would have been a nice touch.

    What the hell is this modern obsession with bottled water? How much do the US tax payers pay for custom Congressional bottled water? Is the tap water of Washington unsafe to drink? What's wrong with a pitcher of cold tap water?

    What the hell is this modern obsession with bottled water? How much do the US tax payers pay for custom Congressional bottled water? Is the tap water of Washington unsafe to drink? What’s wrong with a pitcher of cold tap water?

    Tap water, it is said, contains hormones from discarded birth control pills and from effluent of birth control pill users.

  178. @Jack D
    There are other elements to rape fantasies. One of them is that a lot of women feel guilty about having sex but if they are "raped" then the decision was not in their hands.

    There are other elements to rape fantasies. One of them is that a lot of women feel guilty about having sex but if they are “raped” then the decision was not in their hands.

    Is there any evidence or research in support of this being an actual thing?

    • Replies: @notanon
    if you've had lots of pervy convos with women over the years you know they have all kinds of weird sex fantasies when they're ovulating - it's just their brain trying to get them pregnant and shouldn't be taken as an indication of what they want IRL.
  179. @Anonymous

    There are other elements to rape fantasies. One of them is that a lot of women feel guilty about having sex but if they are “raped” then the decision was not in their hands.
     
    Is there any evidence or research in support of this being an actual thing?

    if you’ve had lots of pervy convos with women over the years you know they have all kinds of weird sex fantasies when they’re ovulating – it’s just their brain trying to get them pregnant and shouldn’t be taken as an indication of what they want IRL.

  180. Let me add this.
    Because Mrs. Blasey-Ford is a . . . Surfer Girl!

  181. @Anonymous

    I’m willing to believe something like this happened because something like this has probably happened in every other alcohol-fueled teenage party or get-together, whether in the 80′s or since.
     
    Do you have knowledge of a single specific instance of "something like this happening" at a teenage party?

    “Do you have knowledge of a single specific instance of “something like this happening” at a teenage party?”

    I myself only got to hang out with the stoner/raver set after my own teenage years had elapsed, and that was only as an observer, but I’ll bet good money that the things I saw or heard about didn’t magically materialize on their 20th birthdays. To the extent you doubt that, you would do well to talk to more women (and not just the white ones, either. Then again, to the extent the women you come in contact with can in unison claim that this kind of thing wasn’t a frequent occurrence among their circle of friends, consider both you and them blessed and maybe leave it at that. Innocence is underrated in today’s world.)

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    I’ll bet good money that the things I saw or heard about didn’t magically materialize on their 20th birthdays.
     
    What were some of the things you saw or heard about?
  182. Anonymous[268] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Jews do not want to exterminate gentiles as such. No Jew wants to live in a world of nothing but Jews.

    Meir Kahane wanted Jews to live in a country only filled with Jews and he was not especially popular with Jews. BTW it was my reading Kahane, more than Pierce, Oliver or Covington, which formed my views on white nationalism .

    While Jews no more want to exterminate gentiles than cattle ranchers want to exterminate cattle, certainly some would prefer that one particular breed be mixed into nonexistence as a "pure" breed, since like the Texas Longhorn breed they were apt to attack their owners.

    However, since the Longhorns are not quite as stupid as their owners think and because they have been given some good ideas by their betters, those jews that do not favor this course of action might be wise to curb the tendencies of their congeners to do this, lest unfortunate events of the last century recur.


    One may see a good analogy in the cattle that are raised in the southwestern part of the United States. For a long time, the favorite breed was the ‘Texas Long-horn,’ which was hardy, able to fight off coyotes and other predators, and to survive in the wilds until it was rounded up by the cowboys for a long drive to the market, but it was also a dangerous animal that would attack its owners when provoked. It is now virtually extinct, having been replaced on the ranches by more docile breeds, such as the ‘Black Angus,’ since the predators have been exterminated and the cattle now graze within fences or are simply fattened on corn provided for them, and the vigor of the potentially dangerous ‘Longhorn’ is no longer needed, while the more docile and sluggish animals yield more tender meat.

    Early in the Twentieth Century, Aryans had, for all practical purposes, subjugated the entire world and made it everywhere both safe and convenient for the Jews, whereas events in Germany in the 1930s proved that Aryans could be dangerous to the Master Race, if they got out of control. Elimination of the species seems therefore a logical step for the self-styled ‘God-people.’
     
    Revilo P. Oliver

    Meir Kahane wanted Jews to live in a country only filled with Jews and he was not especially popular with Jews. BTW it was my reading Kahane, more than Pierce, Oliver or Covington, which formed my views on white nationalism .

    What are your views on White nationalism? (Less importantly, what of Kahane did you read?)

    certainly some would prefer that one particular breed be mixed into nonexistence as a “pure” breed, since like the Texas Longhorn breed they were apt to attack their owners.

    But this is Jewish apologetics. The fear isn’t so much that they will attack their owners as it is that they will outcompete the owners and win the sexual affections of the owners’ offspring.

  183. @HA
    "Do you have knowledge of a single specific instance of “something like this happening” at a teenage party?"

    I myself only got to hang out with the stoner/raver set after my own teenage years had elapsed, and that was only as an observer, but I'll bet good money that the things I saw or heard about didn't magically materialize on their 20th birthdays. To the extent you doubt that, you would do well to talk to more women (and not just the white ones, either. Then again, to the extent the women you come in contact with can in unison claim that this kind of thing wasn't a frequent occurrence among their circle of friends, consider both you and them blessed and maybe leave it at that. Innocence is underrated in today's world.)

    I’ll bet good money that the things I saw or heard about didn’t magically materialize on their 20th birthdays.

    What were some of the things you saw or heard about?

  184. @HA
    And then, there's the case of Ronald Cotton, falsely accused of rape on the basis of eyewitness testimony.

    The woman who accused him made every effort to study the perpetrator’s face while he was assaulting her, "just trying to pay attention to a detail, so that if I survived…I’d be able to help the police catch him" and presumably burning his image into her hippocampus or wherever. She ID'd him twice and was 100% sure she had the right man. Unlike Ford, she was not drinking alcohol, she was a fully grown adult, there was no 30+ year time gap before she ever uttered a name to anyone, there were no group of people with her who have no idea what she was talking about. And she was still wrong. But that didn't prevent Cotton from spending over a decade in prison (before DNA definitely proved it was the guy who had confessed about the rape to a cellmate).

    On the one hand, Cotton was a stranger, and he was black (which can make identification by whites harder), and that needs to be taken into account. On the other hand, there are all the other complications I just mentioned that her case lacked, not to mention the most important one about rape produces memories that are indelible and therefore are not to be questioned.

    Have there been studies regarding the reliability of line-ups? Specifically, how often will someone identify someone from the line-ups even when the actual person isn’t there? When I was about 10, some guy in a car (I want to say “van”, but that might be my memory adjusting to a popular narrative…) offered me a ride, and I said “no” and ran home like I’d learned. My mom called the police, and I gave them a vague description and they came back some time later with a set of photos. I said none of them looked like the guy. I honestly don’t know how often people would say nobody looks right, and it seems like psychologically there’d be pressure to just pick one… Once you’ve done that, it would probably be natural to convince yourself that you weren’t just guessing…

  185. @Anonymous

    (“We are presumed to intend the natural consequences of our acts.”)
     
    What is this from?

    It’s just a fundamental legal principle.

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