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I was just wondering why the newspapers hadn’t run enough headlines updating us on the fast-breaking Emmett Till story today, but now all my Emmett Till News needs have been met.
They probably have a quota noted on a calendar as to when to run another Emmitt Till story.
San Francisco Chronicle had an internal memo sent to a radio talk show about how all the reporters have to submit a story with an LGBT angle in it every 10 days. Like ‘World to end; LGBT hurt worse’……
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Micarnism – Micarnic
Vauntism – Vauntic
Hybovism – Hybovic
Limatism – Limatic
Exuatism – Exuatic
Felitism – Felitic
Adurism – Aduric
Esconism – Econic
Avolism – Avolic
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Antisemitism = hatred of Jews
Antijaphetism = hatred of european Gentiles
And they – the negroes – won’t find ‘the freedom they left the South for 100 years ago.’ Why? Because it does not exist – it’s a fantasy – at least in the North. And the West. And the East. And the rest of the world. But if they continue down the road, it’s just around the next bend and over the next hill.
Isabelle Wilkerson wrote an interesting book, “The Warmth of Other Suns”, about the Great Migration of Southern blacks to the North starting in the early 20th century. It’s a good book, one point that it does raise is the similarity of these Southern migrants to first generation immigrants to America. I think at some level that holds true.
This article, on the other hand, is bizarre. I thought the shooting of Tamar Rice was wrong, but he was, after all, playing with a weapon that looked like a real firearm. One can lament his death, while at the same time pointing out that the incredible stupidity the kids displayed had more to do with his getting shot than any residual racism. It’s not the first nor last time an unarmed person has been killed for holding what appears to be a weapon, I can think of numerous cases where white people have been killed by officers making the same mistake, most recently in Pennsylvania, where the woman officer was also let off the hook.
On top of that, Emmett Till has nothing to do with anything. In the first place, he was actually accused of something and then was murdered in a sort of “honor killing”. Second, this didn’t take place at a northern terminus of the Migration, but in the deep South, where Emmett had gone to spend the summer. I don’t even know why Wilkerson brings this up, unless it is to imply that unconscious racism caused Tamar’s death, when it would be more accurate to say that a rookie cop with little experience was too quick to pull the trigger (BTW, an Asian cop was just convicted of such a shooting in NYC the other day.)
The dead body means that this wasn't a complete fabrication, but what did that son-of-a-murdering-rapist do to Carolyn Bryant? Did Emmett die for one of the crimes his father died for?Replies: @SPMoore8, @Pure and Easy
A set of these tales occupied our collective mental space and made us less stupid. At 32 I'm probably among the last generation to play with toy guns that looked like real guns (who wants a gay orange AK-47?), and, looking back, we really did spontaneously develop a code of toy gun conduct, just like soldiers with real guns.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Buffalo Joe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_TillOutside of Cultural Marxist Media, the prime example of which is the NYT, most educated people believe that extreme sexual psychopathy has a likely strong genetic component and is inheritable to some degree.
At the time of the first sensationalist coverage of Emmett Till's murder it was a major embarrassment that some Northern media outlets did not uncover that Lois Till was a raping murdering sexual predator. From then on the growing power of the Cultural Marxist Media has made it impossible to do otherwise.Replies: @SPMoore8
that one was way fucking wrong, and done by a guy that shouldn't even be a cop.
the worse part was the 911 caller told dispatch that he was "pretty sure it was a fake gun" and dispatch didn't relay that info to the cops on the street...... but who rolls up on a kid with a 'potential' gun like we saw in that video? no attempt to do any surveillance, they just rolled up, got out and started shooting. No logic or reason involved....meaning, why would a kid be walking around a park with a real gun???Replies: @SPMoore8, @Rob McX
San Francisco Chronicle had an internal memo sent to a radio talk show about how all the reporters have to submit a story with an LGBT angle in it every 10 days. Like 'World to end; LGBT hurt worse'......Replies: @Anon, @FactsAreImportant
I quit listening to NPR back in the 1980s because they had a story on AIDS every single day. Literally. Their obsession was insane. I understood the need to inform the public about a deadly disease, but they didn’t need to do it all the time.
I'm looking for a word that describes hate, hostility or dislike for white people, countries, behavior or culture.
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Micarnism – Micarnic
Vauntism – Vauntic
Hybovism – Hybovic
Limatism – Limatic
Exuatism – Exuatic
Felitism – Felitic
Adurism – Aduric
Esconism – Econic
Avolism – Avolic
Hetanism – Hetanic
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There is no parallel with the hostility towards white people, because it’s everywhere. You could include it in a list of names for hatred of various races, but it’s not the same as the others. Nowadays, hatred of blacks, Jews, etc. is anomalous and fragmented into isolated cases, and it makes news whenever it’s seen to occur. But dislike of whites is a fish-and-water thing. People have become so immersed in it that they no longer see it – in the media, politics, the education system, the entertainment industry, advertising, etc.
Another instance of a Gap, in which Whites outperform Blacks.
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Micarnism – Micarnic
Vauntism – Vauntic
Hybovism – Hybovic
Limatism – Limatic
Exuatism – Exuatic
Felitism – Felitic
Adurism – Aduric
Esconism – Econic
Avolism – Avolic
Hetanism – Hetanic
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As far as a word to describe hatred of white people and/or their cultures, I think “honkophobia” works best. Maybe “Ofephobia” could be considered, but the double “f”‘s might be hard to pronounce, and it would probably degrade to “O’phobia” in short order, which I would expect to be the term for people who hate persons of Irish.
I get the feeling that black writers believe if they don’t make spurious claims to the bad ole days in their columns they won’t get published.
That was awful & completely detached from today’s reality. The family’s history was interesting though. You can see the regression from generation to generation.
The great-grandma to date is the highest achieving member of the family. I wonder what happened to her home?
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Micarnism – Micarnic
Vauntism – Vauntic
Hybovism – Hybovic
Limatism – Limatic
Exuatism – Exuatic
Felitism – Felitic
Adurism – Aduric
Esconism – Econic
Avolism – Avolic
Hetanism – Hetanic
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honkist
That was awful & completely detached from today's reality. The family's history was interesting though. You can see the regression from generation to generation.
The great-grandma to date is the highest achieving member of the family. I wonder what happened to her home?Replies: @Desiderius
Yep, and it’s not blacks making those decisions.
I'm looking for a word that describes hate, hostility or dislike for white people, countries, behavior or culture.
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Micarnism – Micarnic
Vauntism – Vauntic
Hybovism – Hybovic
Limatism – Limatic
Exuatism – Exuatic
Felitism – Felitic
Adurism – Aduric
Esconism – Econic
Avolism – Avolic
Hetanism – Hetanic
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Seran, How about Nonnegrophobia,
There is no parallel with the hostility towards white people…
Another instance of a Gap, in which Whites outperform Blacks.
Steve no doubt understands why Emmit Till’s murder is NY Times breaking news today, but for anyone who doesn’t, the NY Times is trying to rile up black voters to get them to turn out for Hillary in the Dem primaries.
Racism covers a wide spectrum of attitudes when applied to whites. I tried making a list describing white racism from its most virulent, KKK-level form, to the type of racism found in deans of Ivy-league universities.
LEVEL 1. Having an irrational hatred of blacks, a desire to do them harm, pleasure in using racial slurs. (Birmingham church bombers.)
LEVEL 2. Having rational concerns about black criminality and dysfunction, reflected in a conscious effort to insulate oneself from them. Race realism rather than race hatred. This type of person is genuinely pleased to see blacks do well. (Jared Taylor type.)
LEVEL 3. Similar to #2, but the concern about black criminality and dysfunction is never acknowledged and all precautionary measures are rationalized–i.e., “good” schools, not “white” schools. Focuses blame on other whites for black problems. (Typical DWL.)
LEVEL 4. Positive views of blacks, no efforts to self-segregate, do-gooder attitude, but may occasionally commit a microaggression by being insufficiently up on the latest protocols. (Typical Millennial.)
LEVEL 5. Being a white person, no matter how cravenly you prostrate yourself before black demands. (College professor, politician.)
Blacks can’t migrate away from their own inadequacies, in other words. They carry these inadequacies within them, wherever they go.
negro, colored, black, African-American. If we're playing the semantics game, I wonder what they will call themselves next.Replies: @snorlax
and the same with Genius T. Coates. It's not racist that he grew up with poor, violent blacks and not in Baldwin Hills where black shoot each other with less regularity than Baltimore. That's class segregation by blacks, not racism by whites.
It's racial dyslexia.
Do the editors of the NYT allow blacks to write articles that aren’t about race ?
It seems like it’s always about 1965 forever. The Second World War only ended a few decades ago and so there’s lots of unfinished business, untold stories and the danger that the Nazis have only gone underground to regroup and gather strength for another grab at power. Also, we all are expected to pretend we were raised in the bad old 1950s but we’re learning to shed those stale and constricting gender roles and get out from under the thumb of the clergy. Oh and the Iron Curtain only came down a few years ago but then went back up again. Interestingly though, China is not now and never really was communist. I’m just working with the map of the world our mainstream media gives me so don’t shoot the messenger.
Ehh, just another in a long serious of soul-draining thumbsuckers about hapless hopeless helpless brown peoples. This is a specialty of PBS World and NPR. But I wonder how much genuine interest they arouse or do they just get a dutiful skim by the faithful?
In these parts the media runs an annual (usually) In Depth story about hapless hopeless helpless reservation Indians. A local anchor admitted no one gave a shit, after the news team worked sooo hard on it, and were much more interested in her dog’s puppies.
Don’t the brown peoples get embarrassed by this kind of negative attention? Isn’t there any loss of face – at all? I work in retail with plenty of Indians and they don’t seem all that helpless to me (other than the rather common ex-in-rehab situation).
As I recall, AIDS became a big story in 1983, although I had earlier hints that something mysterious was going on because I had a neighbor two doors away who was gay and he made allusions around late 1981 (as I recall) about a mystery disease striking “his community.” Since I wasn’t part of “his community,” it didn’t concern me, and I found out nothing specific until I started reading in the MSM early stories about AIDS, which caused the lightbulb in my brain to go on, and I said to myself “oh, that was what John was referring to.” But I remember reading a column around 1985 (George Will comes to mind) that pointed out that AIDS overwhelmingly affected Blacks and Hispanics and IV drug users and homosexuals, that the odds of getting it were slight, and that it was difficult to transmit by normal, vaginal intercourse. (And, of course, as another poster pointed out a few months ago, by blood transfusions, a problem that was solved in short order by blood screening.) From that point on, I basically stopped worrying about AIDS since I was not black or Hispanic, didn’t use IV drugs, wasn’t homosexual, and limited myself to vaginal intercourse. Nevertheless, the MSM kept trumpeting the AIDS epidemic 24/7, falsely convincing the entire population that they were at serious risk for contracting AIDS, when the reality was that the overwhelming population faced only a miniscule risk from acquiring that disease. I think all subsequent data fully supports what I read in that column I read back in 1985.
What's astonishing is how the gay lib movement spun what should have ruined them forever in the public mind into a huge PR success. "Let's drop the trannies and pedos for now and focus on ourselves as the victims, not the cause, of AIDS." It worked brilliantly. All through my 90's youth people with AIDS were sainted, like that insufferable Pedro guy from MTV's "Real World."
#AIDSWinsReplies: @CJ, @tbraton
I'm looking for a word that describes hate, hostility or dislike for white people, countries, behavior or culture.
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Micarnism – Micarnic
Vauntism – Vauntic
Hybovism – Hybovic
Limatism – Limatic
Exuatism – Exuatic
Felitism – Felitic
Adurism – Aduric
Esconism – Econic
Avolism – Avolic
Hetanism – Hetanic
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Fairhate
Honkophobia.I like it.Can’t you just see the bumper sticker:Honk if you hate honkies.
I see the NYT still hasn’t managed to discover that Till’s father was a murderer and Till was sent South because he was already headed for trouble up North just like his daddy. And the columnist never managed to compute the times between murder incidents where the offender is a Negro and the victim a White (about one per day) in 2014.
San Francisco Chronicle had an internal memo sent to a radio talk show about how all the reporters have to submit a story with an LGBT angle in it every 10 days. Like 'World to end; LGBT hurt worse'......Replies: @Anon, @FactsAreImportant
They are being environmentally sensitive.
Despite vigorous exploration, there have been very few discoveries of high-grade oppression deposits in recent decades and reserves are running distressingly low.
In response, they are vigorously reusing and recycling the few precious deposits remaining in the western world. They hope to make the Emmitt Till ore last through 2032, and their laboratories are experimenting with innovative techniques to make low-grade deposits economically feasible. They are quite optimistic about the recently developed MBrown process for fracking police departments, and they have high hopes for horizontal drilling into micro-aggression shales and large-scale strip mining of white-privilege tar sands.
Why Emmett Till?
Because Black History Month.
Duh!
Remember the decade-long deluge of homeless coverage in the 80s and early 90s? That instantly stopped when Clinton was elected?
I remember that. And it was instant. All of a sudden, on Jan 20th, 1993, Homelessness ceased to be a national problem. The media tried to revive the homeless crisis right after G.W. Bush was inaugurated, but it didn't take. By then people were all bummed out.Replies: @Honesthughgrant
I’m just thankful that Letalvis Darnell Cobbins, Vanessa Coleman, LeMaricus Devall Davidson and George Geovonni Thomas were able to defend themselves against the vicious mob of white people that brutally attacked them.
Because Black History Month.
Duh!Replies: @iSteveFan
Why not Emmett’s dad?
Of course, it's not fair to bring him up WRT to Emmett, and I don't believe the sins of the father should be visited, etc. But it's a fascinating bit of historical and literary lore.Replies: @AndrewR
Anne and Emmett is a play by Janet Langhart Cohen. The play details an imaginary conversation between Emmett Till and Anne Frank which takes place in Memory a non-specific afterlife or alternate dimension.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_and_Emmett
Janet Langhart Cohen is the spouse of former Defense Secretary William Cohen.
Louis Till is a fascinating character, not only because he raped and murdered two Italian women in WW2, but also because before his execution he happened to be caged next to Ezra Pound, who, by my reading, mentioned him more than once in the “Pisan Cantos.”
Of course, it’s not fair to bring him up WRT to Emmett, and I don’t believe the sins of the father should be visited, etc. But it’s a fascinating bit of historical and literary lore.
Probably because NPR employees knew a lot more HIV/AIDS patients than the average American. In their corner of the world AIDS was probably the most serious issue they faced.
My goodness gracious! Has no one told them that Selma is liberated now?
Black mayor. Black city council. Black police chief. Black DA.
They have their freedom. They have their city. They can all leave home and return to the motherland, Alabama.
Free at Last! Free at Last! Praise God Almighty, they are Free at Last!
http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2016/02/we-never-harm-tourists-never-got-that.html
So why is the city still named after Homer Simpson's white sister-in-law, Selma Bouvier? It's long past time when it was renamed Tilltown.
I bet we could do an entire post of commenters commenting on when they quit listening to NPR. I quit about ten years ago after a non-stop six months of stories about Iraqi vet suicides.
And hey, AIDS was Reagan's fault. Don't you remember?
1) I was travelling with the family several years ago and they aired a long segment about a Muslim woman who lived somewhere in Middle America and been harassed by some of the white, Christian neighbors, who of course were horrible hypocrites. They aired this on Christmas Eve.
2) In a not-from-the-Onion moment, also several years ago, they did about a 4-minute segment on how the drivers' license regulations had been changed to accommodate transgendered licensees. In Argentina.
3) The war vet stories. Yes. Stuck out like a sore thumb - and I was against the Iraq War from the start. The aftermath of Hurricane Katrina as well.
4) A story about how fetal sex determination wasn't as exact a science as had been thought. The nadir was a moment when some yuppie was interviewed and complained how it made sex-selective abortion more difficult. This actually happened.
When I do turn them on now, I can't imagine how it would be different if MSNBC were running it.
He had a gorgeous view of the Hudson and the Palisades from that office, but apparently he preferred the ceiling.Replies: @dcite, @Mr. Anon, @Brutusale
I’ve long thought that the more interesting Great Migration story was the Black Panthers. Almost to a man, they were either born in California or the North soon after their parents left the south, or moved away when they were too small to have had much experience with Jim Crow.
Their parents, who had experienced the worst of American racism, didn’t radicalize. Their kids, despite never having known anything worse than the Oakland or Chicago P.D., did.
I fear there’s a lesson in that for future generations of immigrants.
Most of the migration to my knowledge took place around WW2, and a lot of them grew up in Oakland. But not just the Black Panthers: a ton of MLB baseball players grew up there, too, starting with Frank Robinson but also including Curt Flood, Joe Morgan, Vada Pinson, Dave Stewart, Rickey Henderson, and many, many others.
Of course, it's not fair to bring him up WRT to Emmett, and I don't believe the sins of the father should be visited, etc. But it's a fascinating bit of historical and literary lore.Replies: @AndrewR
Well we are not responsible for the sins of our fathers but apples rarely fall far from the tree. I’m not condoning what happened to Emmett but he probably did what the woman accused him of.
Their parents, who had experienced the worst of American racism, didn't radicalize. Their kids, despite never having known anything worse than the Oakland or Chicago P.D., did.
I fear there's a lesson in that for future generations of immigrants.Replies: @iSteveFan, @SPMoore8
What you describe is akin to the third worlders in Europe. Their kids are the hard core ones.
This article, on the other hand, is bizarre. I thought the shooting of Tamar Rice was wrong, but he was, after all, playing with a weapon that looked like a real firearm. One can lament his death, while at the same time pointing out that the incredible stupidity the kids displayed had more to do with his getting shot than any residual racism. It's not the first nor last time an unarmed person has been killed for holding what appears to be a weapon, I can think of numerous cases where white people have been killed by officers making the same mistake, most recently in Pennsylvania, where the woman officer was also let off the hook.
On top of that, Emmett Till has nothing to do with anything. In the first place, he was actually accused of something and then was murdered in a sort of "honor killing". Second, this didn't take place at a northern terminus of the Migration, but in the deep South, where Emmett had gone to spend the summer. I don't even know why Wilkerson brings this up, unless it is to imply that unconscious racism caused Tamar's death, when it would be more accurate to say that a rookie cop with little experience was too quick to pull the trigger (BTW, an Asian cop was just convicted of such a shooting in NYC the other day.)Replies: @ben tillman, @Cryptogenic, @anonymous-antimarxist, @interesting
Right, it wasn’t a lynching as that term is usually understood. It was a private act of retribution for an act whose exact nature we will never know. One thing we do know, however, is that when stories like this are told nowadays, we almost invariably find that the story is exaggerated, rife with lies, or completely fabricated.
The dead body means that this wasn’t a complete fabrication, but what did that son-of-a-murdering-rapist do to Carolyn Bryant? Did Emmett die for one of the crimes his father died for?
One thing that tends to be forgotten about the Emmett Till case is that, even though the two guys who killed him got away with it, in court, they didn't get away with it in real life. All the black sharecroppers boycotted the Bryant store, and it went out of business. In the same way, the white folks down there shunned the killers and their families. Just because they were acquitted, and then had the audacity to describe the killing in detail to Bradford Huie, doesn't mean that the people who actually lived around them didn't feel they had committed murder. IIRC, there was a similar dynamic in play for the 1964 Civil Rights murders.Replies: @ben tillman, @27 year old
Mindless millennial bashing.
There’s probably a not-insignificant-number of NPR types who’ve made a very nice living off of the fight against AIDS.
Their parents, who had experienced the worst of American racism, didn't radicalize. Their kids, despite never having known anything worse than the Oakland or Chicago P.D., did.
I fear there's a lesson in that for future generations of immigrants.Replies: @iSteveFan, @SPMoore8
You are right. There’s a lot of guys who grew up in California but who were born, or whose parents were from, the South, and that was the core of the Panthers and other black radicals. In the case of someone like George Jackson, there was a double move, his parents were from Chicago and then to LA during WW2.
Most of the migration to my knowledge took place around WW2, and a lot of them grew up in Oakland. But not just the Black Panthers: a ton of MLB baseball players grew up there, too, starting with Frank Robinson but also including Curt Flood, Joe Morgan, Vada Pinson, Dave Stewart, Rickey Henderson, and many, many others.
I’m not sure what Emmett did, or what he is accused of. I wouldn’t classify it as “sexual assault” or anything like that. And, as I recall, the woman didn’t want her husband to engage in retribution. I mean, it was murder. Simple as that.
There is often a solipsistic/echo chamberish pathology in evidence at NPR, as seen with the AIDS reporting and in so many other instances. That situation cries out for some snarky pseudo-numerical way to allow quick identification of similar pathological communities.
Your humble servant proposes as a unit of measurement and identification the Kael, named in honor of late movie critic Pauline Kael. That is based somewhat on her purported quote shown below, even if she didn’t actually say that, you know what I mean?
The choice of the Kael captures the various attributes one has come to expect from those in her milieu, such as cluelessness, Upper Eastsideness, or Upper Westsideness (who cares), New Yorkishness and all-around outoftouchiness.
Noun, verb and other uses would be encouraged. Do you speak Kaelic? That was quite a Kaelathon on NPR last night. Kael much? The program was tagged at 79 milli-Kaels.
“I can’t believe Nixon won. I don’t know anyone who voted for him.”
The dead body means that this wasn't a complete fabrication, but what did that son-of-a-murdering-rapist do to Carolyn Bryant? Did Emmett die for one of the crimes his father died for?Replies: @SPMoore8, @Pure and Easy
I don’t think anyone seriously thinks that Emmett assaulted Carolyn Bryant. But he clearly offended her husband, and they murdered him.
One thing that tends to be forgotten about the Emmett Till case is that, even though the two guys who killed him got away with it, in court, they didn’t get away with it in real life. All the black sharecroppers boycotted the Bryant store, and it went out of business. In the same way, the white folks down there shunned the killers and their families. Just because they were acquitted, and then had the audacity to describe the killing in detail to Bradford Huie, doesn’t mean that the people who actually lived around them didn’t feel they had committed murder. IIRC, there was a similar dynamic in play for the 1964 Civil Rights murders.
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Micarnism – Micarnic
Vauntism – Vauntic
Hybovism – Hybovic
Limatism – Limatic
Exuatism – Exuatic
Felitism – Felitic
Adurism – Aduric
Esconism – Econic
Avolism – Avolic
Hetanism – Hetanic
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How about a description of the act: ethnic cleansing.
Anti-Japhetism, anti-Japhite, etc.
Till was beaten to a pulp as a result of troubling associations with Sexual Harassment. You say that Missus Bryant didn’t want the hypothetical crime to be pursued but the two men, possibly as aspiring feminists, decided the world needed to hear this story. Verily, the all-SJW jury nullified their charges because what’s more important than fighting sexism in 14-year-olds? Especially the kind that might be imaginary and therefore, most insidious. However I don’t approve of the men’s post-trial interview in Rolling Stone’s “Look” imprint making them look bad thus removing focus off the real issues
Black mayor. Black city council. Black police chief. Black DA.
They have their freedom. They have their city. They can all leave home and return to the motherland, Alabama.
Free at Last! Free at Last! Praise God Almighty, they are Free at Last!
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“My goodness gracious! Has no one told them that Selma is liberated now? ”
So why is the city still named after Homer Simpson’s white sister-in-law, Selma Bouvier? It’s long past time when it was renamed Tilltown.
I'm looking for a word that describes hate, hostility or dislike for white people, countries, behavior or culture.
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Micarnism – Micarnic
Vauntism – Vauntic
Hybovism – Hybovic
Limatism – Limatic
Exuatism – Exuatic
Felitism – Felitic
Adurism – Aduric
Esconism – Econic
Avolism – Avolic
Hetanism – Hetanic
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Scapegoating?
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Micarnism – Micarnic
Vauntism – Vauntic
Hybovism – Hybovic
Limatism – Limatic
Exuatism – Exuatic
Felitism – Felitic
Adurism – Aduric
Esconism – Econic
Avolism – Avolic
Hetanism – Hetanic
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Leukophobia. The first syllable is pronounced as in leukemia.
You left out LEVEL 6 – Stupid white (usually college student) befriends blacks and thinks they are his friends and gets killed by them.
Highly off topic: But if you want to see the creation of more Trump supporters, then see this. All you need to do is view the first 15 seconds.
One thing that tends to be forgotten about the Emmett Till case is that, even though the two guys who killed him got away with it, in court, they didn't get away with it in real life. All the black sharecroppers boycotted the Bryant store, and it went out of business. In the same way, the white folks down there shunned the killers and their families. Just because they were acquitted, and then had the audacity to describe the killing in detail to Bradford Huie, doesn't mean that the people who actually lived around them didn't feel they had committed murder. IIRC, there was a similar dynamic in play for the 1964 Civil Rights murders.Replies: @ben tillman, @27 year old
You’re wrong, of course, because some people do think he assaulted her (or much worse), but that’s not the point. The point is that your comment begs the question.
What people believe is based on what they hear from a monopoly of the megaphone. There is absolutely no reason to believe that all he did was whistle at her from a distance. It’s possible, but our experience with post-Internet propaganda narratives tells us it’s highly unlikely.
It’s actually really lame.
I stopped listening, for any amount of seconds, when I discovered that my liberal colleagues at work were hanging on every word. To them, NPR was the voice of the Almighty.
And hey, AIDS was Reagan’s fault. Don’t you remember?
Racism. Putting down that weaponized term, in favor of taking up an entirely new term that won’t matter because specific to whites, is a losing strategy.
We get Emmit Till stories every year. Then the illiterate black activists tell the world that his story must be told.
Maybe what we really need is literate black activists.
Ship sailed on “fair” about 50 years ago. “Oh, we mustn’t bomb the Germans’ cities just because they bombed ours once.”
Wouldn’t make much of a movie, if it stuck to the facts, though. Till was basically begging for it right up to the end.
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Triumph the Insult Dog Comic finds college social justice puritans to be excellent material.
I have a cassette tape on which I used to collect the most over-the-top NPR stories. I think my favorite title was “Lesbian Dance Troupe in Havana Shatters Old Stereotypes.”
If only they could worked some Jews in there, it'd been even better. What about a follow-on NPR story:
"Lesbian Dance Troupe celebrates Jewish involvement in the Underground Railroad at Sierra Club Fundraiser"
It certainly is relevant if someone thinks that Till sexually assaulted her, or “worse”. I’d like to hear more about the specifics of these allegations of “sexual assault” or “worse.”
* Till bragged to the group of lay-abouts in front of the Bryant's store that he, being from up north, had sex with white women (confirmed)
* Till claimed or accepted a challenge he could "woo"- sorry, let's get real- f**k - Mrs. Bryant (confirmed)
* Till went into the store to try to proposition her (confirmed)
* at this point accounts conflict, but Till did interact with her; whether it was merely a whistle or a full-on grope, sources disagree, and we will never know
(Sigh) The point is not that Till deserved to die for the crimes of his father, but that black sexual predation on white women is a constant danger that has little to do with geography (North vs. South) , culture, or political conditions (pre-Civil Rights/post-Civil Rights). The point of bringing up Louis Till's crimes is that there could be no better rebuttal for the lie that Emmett was some sort of proto-interracial dating, beautifully-miscegenated America mascot, than the predations of his own father. It's basically another sample point, the best and most like one that could exist outside Emmett having a twin.Replies: @Abe, @SPMoore8
Gross comment. I think it’s people who cannot view his murder for the horror it is that is likely the impetus for its perceived endless repetition.
Now what? What is the internet's appropriate response to this ancient murder, O pure one?Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Are there not many other murders that don't get proper horror views?
The problem with rallying around this one incident is that you get a "holier than thou death spiral"; where first you come for those that thought it was proper street justice; then you come for those who rate it no worse than any average murder; then you come for those who don't show level one obeisance; then you come for those who don't show level 2 obeisance;...
Not only do you have to keep clapping, but you have to clap louder and louder, and pretty soon you have today's Left.
Do NPR and the New York Times trot out annual stories about the Carr Brothers or about the murder of Shannon Christian and Christopher Newsome? Those both happened within the last twenty and ten years respectively. And the repetition of those horrors is not "perceived" but actual and occurs with some frequency.
I don't care about your delicate concerns. They are not my concerns.
That would be the fear of bed linens in modern Greek.
The dead body means that this wasn't a complete fabrication, but what did that son-of-a-murdering-rapist do to Carolyn Bryant? Did Emmett die for one of the crimes his father died for?Replies: @SPMoore8, @Pure and Easy
Another gross comment. Quite a concession – ” wasn’t a complete fabrication”.
They never change their behavior. But every 10-20 years or so they change their name.
negro, colored, black, African-American. If we’re playing the semantics game, I wonder what they will call themselves next.
OT: SNL alum Robert Smigel takes Triumph, The Insult Comic Dog, on the road to battle PC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_and_Emmett
Janet Langhart Cohen is the spouse of former Defense Secretary William Cohen.Replies: @ben tillman, @Brutusale
And I thought you were one of the bad guys! That was worth sharing — thank you.
“Lesbian Dance Troupe in Havana Shatters Old Stereotypes.”
If only they could worked some Jews in there, it’d been even better. What about a follow-on NPR story:
“Lesbian Dance Troupe celebrates Jewish involvement in the Underground Railroad at Sierra Club Fundraiser”
I pretty much stopped listening once I found a few good podcasts to listen to, but I remember a few distinct moments that made me think a lot less of them:
1) I was travelling with the family several years ago and they aired a long segment about a Muslim woman who lived somewhere in Middle America and been harassed by some of the white, Christian neighbors, who of course were horrible hypocrites. They aired this on Christmas Eve.
2) In a not-from-the-Onion moment, also several years ago, they did about a 4-minute segment on how the drivers’ license regulations had been changed to accommodate transgendered licensees. In Argentina.
3) The war vet stories. Yes. Stuck out like a sore thumb – and I was against the Iraq War from the start. The aftermath of Hurricane Katrina as well.
4) A story about how fetal sex determination wasn’t as exact a science as had been thought. The nadir was a moment when some yuppie was interviewed and complained how it made sex-selective abortion more difficult. This actually happened.
When I do turn them on now, I can’t imagine how it would be different if MSNBC were running it.
This article, on the other hand, is bizarre. I thought the shooting of Tamar Rice was wrong, but he was, after all, playing with a weapon that looked like a real firearm. One can lament his death, while at the same time pointing out that the incredible stupidity the kids displayed had more to do with his getting shot than any residual racism. It's not the first nor last time an unarmed person has been killed for holding what appears to be a weapon, I can think of numerous cases where white people have been killed by officers making the same mistake, most recently in Pennsylvania, where the woman officer was also let off the hook.
On top of that, Emmett Till has nothing to do with anything. In the first place, he was actually accused of something and then was murdered in a sort of "honor killing". Second, this didn't take place at a northern terminus of the Migration, but in the deep South, where Emmett had gone to spend the summer. I don't even know why Wilkerson brings this up, unless it is to imply that unconscious racism caused Tamar's death, when it would be more accurate to say that a rookie cop with little experience was too quick to pull the trigger (BTW, an Asian cop was just convicted of such a shooting in NYC the other day.)Replies: @ben tillman, @Cryptogenic, @anonymous-antimarxist, @interesting
I guess Kids These Days don’t have the urban legend about the three-year-old (or two- or four-year-old, whatever) who pointed a toy gun at a cop and was shot dead. In another version the kid merely pointed his finger. “That’s all it takes, man!”
A set of these tales occupied our collective mental space and made us less stupid. At 32 I’m probably among the last generation to play with toy guns that looked like real guns (who wants a gay orange AK-47?), and, looking back, we really did spontaneously develop a code of toy gun conduct, just like soldiers with real guns.
In several recent cases of teens being shot for brandishing toy guns, the toy guns were Air Soft replicas which look exactly like the real thing, except for an orange muzzle plug which can be removed or blackened.
As for the Great Migration, I was reading an article on that other great Southern Migration, namely the Hillbilly Highway to industrial Northern and Western cities, and the article was rather explicit that the Appalachians lit out North because the passage of the Immigration Act of 1924 drastically reduced the European immigrant workforce, and thus made the Appalachian workers worthwhile to Northern factories.
Could the same factors be at work with respect to the Black Great Migration? Was it initially sparked because low skill Black labor was needed when European immigration to Northern cities was reduced? Did Blacks initially move North in reaction to historically low immigration levels and is the outmigration of Blacks from California and many Northern cities a reaction to increased competition from renewed high levels of immigration?
Most obviously, industrialization introduced tractors, seed spreaders, artificial fertilizers, weed killers, pesticides, harvesters etc., all of which drastically reduced the need for humans to actually work the fields. These days, one farmer with a tractor can do just about everything by himself, though he might need to hire a few extra guys at harvest time.
The disease factor is not as obvious, but big chunks of the South were formerly basically off-limits to whites due to diseases like malaria, yellow fever, and hookworms. Blacks are less susceptible to these diseases, and so died less often in areas where they were common. Blacks living in these areas were pretty much left alone and ran their own communities. But with the draining of the swamps, eradication of tropical diseases and parasites, the invention of air conditioning, etc., blacks lost their advantage and whites moved in.
I read some of the old stories about life in these little towns in the South back in the 30s or before, and sure, life was hard and people were poor, but it seems like they had a sense of dignity and community that folks living in projects in big Northern cities seem to lack. But maybe I'm just projecting.
In these parts the media runs an annual (usually) In Depth story about hapless hopeless helpless reservation Indians. A local anchor admitted no one gave a shit, after the news team worked sooo hard on it, and were much more interested in her dog's puppies.
Don't the brown peoples get embarrassed by this kind of negative attention? Isn't there any loss of face - at all? I work in retail with plenty of Indians and they don't seem all that helpless to me (other than the rather common ex-in-rehab situation).Replies: @Cryptogenic
I think blacks in particular relish their lachrymose history as much as possible to make the occasional displays of black power (Beyoncé, for example) seem even more stupendous and rise-above-y.
In David Halberstam’s book on the 50’s the incident is gone over in detail. Being I assume a stock, 60’s-style moderate liberal, he cannot be accused of creating an excessively negative portrayal of Till. The following happened:
* Till bragged to the group of lay-abouts in front of the Bryant’s store that he, being from up north, had sex with white women (confirmed)
* Till claimed or accepted a challenge he could “woo”- sorry, let’s get real- f**k – Mrs. Bryant (confirmed)
* Till went into the store to try to proposition her (confirmed)
* at this point accounts conflict, but Till did interact with her; whether it was merely a whistle or a full-on grope, sources disagree, and we will never know
(Sigh) The point is not that Till deserved to die for the crimes of his father, but that black sexual predation on white women is a constant danger that has little to do with geography (North vs. South) , culture, or political conditions (pre-Civil Rights/post-Civil Rights). The point of bringing up Louis Till’s crimes is that there could be no better rebuttal for the lie that Emmett was some sort of proto-interracial dating, beautifully-miscegenated America mascot, than the predations of his own father. It’s basically another sample point, the best and most like one that could exist outside Emmett having a twin.
Starting with our own esteemed host, each of has been the victim of white ethnic cleansing from the core and near-suburbs of America's great cities as a direct result of the Great Migration. We all have had fathers and ourselves become the sorts of fathers who live so far away from their jobs they spend 2-4 hours commuting every day which otherwise they could be spending with their families, not to mention all the attendant stress and cost. We also seem not to notice we are the sorts of fathers who must work as hard as we do because we are in a bidding war with every other dad trying to afford a house in one of the few areas spared by some quirk of geography, history, or administrative line-drawing the full effects of the Great Migration. And then when whatever it was that was shielding our community is suddenly withdrawn (Section 8 pressure, a new highway or bridge built) we turn tail and run instead of standing our ground, ignobly leaving our children's inheritance (in the form of the lost value of those suddenly less desirable houses) in the ground we have ceded. Think on that!Replies: @Reg Cæsar
What I am responding to is the claim is that Till "sexually assaulted" Carolyn Bryant, and second, that he did something "worse" than sexual assault.
In the first place, Carolyn Bryant either perjured herself to her girlfriend, her husband, or the FBI, and the only source that Till touched her, or "grabbed" or "groped" her is Carolyn Bryant, who is an unreliable witness.
This is an important point, since, as we might recall, we have spent a lot of time discussing the validity or even the veracity of sexual assault claims that are verifiable by the woman alone, and in particular, by an unreliable woman.
The next point that has to be kept in mind is under what circumstances touching, whistling, or, at the worst, making a pass at a woman constitutes "sexual assault" let alone something "worse."Replies: @iSteveFan, @Mr. Anon
I'm looking for a word that describes hate, hostility or dislike for white people, countries, behavior or culture.
Here are some words created by a word generator
Micarnism – Micarnic
Vauntism – Vauntic
Hybovism – Hybovic
Limatism – Limatic
Exuatism – Exuatic
Felitism – Felitic
Adurism – Aduric
Esconism – Econic
Avolism – Avolic
Hetanism – Hetanic
Vote here
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Judenhass: hatred of Jews
Weißehass: hatred of Whites.
I like the term Weißehass because it turns the table by connoting that people who hate Whites are as racist as Nazis.
Sample: “The Weißehass is strong in this one.”
By the way, years ago, back in the 1980’s, I listened to NPR twice within a month. That was enough to leave for the rest of my life a bitter taste in my ears.
And y’all will be hearing about Emmett till Satan poops ice cubes.
I recall a line in Palahniuk’s “Fight Club” about AIDS spreading to heterosexuals via closeted men infecting their wives and subsequent babies. Seems pretty obvious to me.
What’s astonishing is how the gay lib movement spun what should have ruined them forever in the public mind into a huge PR success. “Let’s drop the trannies and pedos for now and focus on ourselves as the victims, not the cause, of AIDS.” It worked brilliantly. All through my 90’s youth people with AIDS were sainted, like that insufferable Pedro guy from MTV’s “Real World.”
#AIDSWins
Or was that your point?Replies: @Cryptogenic
Exactly. Plus it was a way to get the federal government to spend many billions of dollars on a disease that primarily affected blacks, Hispanics, IV drug users and homosexuals, not exactly groups that Americans cared about. By selling the line that everyone was at risk, they were able to garner wide public support to fight the scourge. That effort of mass deception continued for at least a decade past the point where it was known with certainty that the disease affected only the particular groups I cited. That's why I cited the 1985 column that I read. They generally knew the basic facts of AIDS early on. What really burned me up was reading about how gays (who were the group most affected and the group which started the spread of the disease in the first place---as I recall, they were able to trace its origin to a gay airline steward who frequented the notorious bath houses in S.F.), after initially taking precautions to protect themselves from the dreadful disease, began abandoning the safeguards and engaging in risky behavior. Had they treated the disease the same way they had treated infectious diseases in the past (such as typhoid), they would have rounded up the infected persons and imposed a quarantine on them to stop the spread of AIDS and many fewer people would have been infected.Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Cryptogenic
* Till bragged to the group of lay-abouts in front of the Bryant's store that he, being from up north, had sex with white women (confirmed)
* Till claimed or accepted a challenge he could "woo"- sorry, let's get real- f**k - Mrs. Bryant (confirmed)
* Till went into the store to try to proposition her (confirmed)
* at this point accounts conflict, but Till did interact with her; whether it was merely a whistle or a full-on grope, sources disagree, and we will never know
(Sigh) The point is not that Till deserved to die for the crimes of his father, but that black sexual predation on white women is a constant danger that has little to do with geography (North vs. South) , culture, or political conditions (pre-Civil Rights/post-Civil Rights). The point of bringing up Louis Till's crimes is that there could be no better rebuttal for the lie that Emmett was some sort of proto-interracial dating, beautifully-miscegenated America mascot, than the predations of his own father. It's basically another sample point, the best and most like one that could exist outside Emmett having a twin.Replies: @Abe, @SPMoore8
To add further, it’s pretty pathetic for any of us to judge the informal social codes of the old South when they are pretty much the only example in world history of White Europeans and sub-Saharan Africans living in close proximity and relative peace.
Starting with our own esteemed host, each of has been the victim of white ethnic cleansing from the core and near-suburbs of America’s great cities as a direct result of the Great Migration. We all have had fathers and ourselves become the sorts of fathers who live so far away from their jobs they spend 2-4 hours commuting every day which otherwise they could be spending with their families, not to mention all the attendant stress and cost. We also seem not to notice we are the sorts of fathers who must work as hard as we do because we are in a bidding war with every other dad trying to afford a house in one of the few areas spared by some quirk of geography, history, or administrative line-drawing the full effects of the Great Migration. And then when whatever it was that was shielding our community is suddenly withdrawn (Section 8 pressure, a new highway or bridge built) we turn tail and run instead of standing our ground, ignobly leaving our children’s inheritance (in the form of the lost value of those suddenly less desirable houses) in the ground we have ceded. Think on that!
A set of these tales occupied our collective mental space and made us less stupid. At 32 I'm probably among the last generation to play with toy guns that looked like real guns (who wants a gay orange AK-47?), and, looking back, we really did spontaneously develop a code of toy gun conduct, just like soldiers with real guns.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Buffalo Joe
(who wants a gay orange AK-47?)
In several recent cases of teens being shot for brandishing toy guns, the toy guns were Air Soft replicas which look exactly like the real thing, except for an orange muzzle plug which can be removed or blackened.
* Till bragged to the group of lay-abouts in front of the Bryant's store that he, being from up north, had sex with white women (confirmed)
* Till claimed or accepted a challenge he could "woo"- sorry, let's get real- f**k - Mrs. Bryant (confirmed)
* Till went into the store to try to proposition her (confirmed)
* at this point accounts conflict, but Till did interact with her; whether it was merely a whistle or a full-on grope, sources disagree, and we will never know
(Sigh) The point is not that Till deserved to die for the crimes of his father, but that black sexual predation on white women is a constant danger that has little to do with geography (North vs. South) , culture, or political conditions (pre-Civil Rights/post-Civil Rights). The point of bringing up Louis Till's crimes is that there could be no better rebuttal for the lie that Emmett was some sort of proto-interracial dating, beautifully-miscegenated America mascot, than the predations of his own father. It's basically another sample point, the best and most like one that could exist outside Emmett having a twin.Replies: @Abe, @SPMoore8
Right, I am very familiar with the back story on Till, and I am very familiar with Halberstam’s treatment as well. So, nothing new there.
What I am responding to is the claim is that Till “sexually assaulted” Carolyn Bryant, and second, that he did something “worse” than sexual assault.
In the first place, Carolyn Bryant either perjured herself to her girlfriend, her husband, or the FBI, and the only source that Till touched her, or “grabbed” or “groped” her is Carolyn Bryant, who is an unreliable witness.
This is an important point, since, as we might recall, we have spent a lot of time discussing the validity or even the veracity of sexual assault claims that are verifiable by the woman alone, and in particular, by an unreliable woman.
The next point that has to be kept in mind is under what circumstances touching, whistling, or, at the worst, making a pass at a woman constitutes “sexual assault” let alone something “worse.”
In a honor culture, which parts of the South probably had, coming on to a man's wife is a no-no. I suppose if I went to Pakistan and made a pass at some gal, I might end up dead too.Replies: @Spmoore8, @Spmoore8
“Remember the decade-long deluge of homeless coverage in the 80s and early 90s? That instantly stopped when Clinton was elected?”
I remember that. And it was instant. All of a sudden, on Jan 20th, 1993, Homelessness ceased to be a national problem. The media tried to revive the homeless crisis right after G.W. Bush was inaugurated, but it didn’t take. By then people were all bummed out.
Whatever the exact nature of his offence, Till’s murder would be classed as an honour killing. It’s funny how those who are still going on about it sixty years later are nonetheless in favour of importing huge numbers of people for whom honour killing is a way of life.
Estimated crime in United States-Total
year -- Forcible rape rate relative to 1960 rate -- executions for rape
1960 -- 1.0x -- 8
1961 -- 1.0x -- 9
1962 -- 1.0x -- 4
1963 -- 1.0x -- 2
1964 -- 1.2x -- 5 -- last execution for rape
1965 -- 1.3x
1966 -- 1.4x
1967 -- 1.5x
1968 -- 1.7x
1969 -- 1.9x
1970 -- 1.9x
1971 -- 2.1x
1972 -- 2.3x
1973 -- 2.6x
1974 -- 2.7x
1975 -- 2.7x
1976 -- 2.8x
1977 -- 3.1x
1978 -- 3.2x
1979 -- 3.6x
1980 -- 3.8xReplies: @Reg Cæsar
Been talking to Jackie lately?Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
Good point.
I love npr. But I also love yelling in traffic and being angry in general, so, there we are. It’s become a thing: the daily 4 minutes of hate when I complain about the stupid thing I heard on npr this morning.
I remember that. And it was instant. All of a sudden, on Jan 20th, 1993, Homelessness ceased to be a national problem. The media tried to revive the homeless crisis right after G.W. Bush was inaugurated, but it didn't take. By then people were all bummed out.Replies: @Honesthughgrant
In 1993 not only did the Homeless problem go away, but suddenly the “ethics in Government” problem disappeared. No more scandals only “affairs”. And for some reason Independent Counsels instead of “Speaking truth to Power” like *Judge* Walsh became partisan witch-hunts led by hacks like *Republican* Ken Starr.
So touching a woman and putting your hand around her waist constitutes “sexual assault”. Check. And the uncorroborated word of an unreliable woman is sufficient proof. Check.
Been talking to Jackie lately?
What I am responding to is the claim is that Till "sexually assaulted" Carolyn Bryant, and second, that he did something "worse" than sexual assault.
In the first place, Carolyn Bryant either perjured herself to her girlfriend, her husband, or the FBI, and the only source that Till touched her, or "grabbed" or "groped" her is Carolyn Bryant, who is an unreliable witness.
This is an important point, since, as we might recall, we have spent a lot of time discussing the validity or even the veracity of sexual assault claims that are verifiable by the woman alone, and in particular, by an unreliable woman.
The next point that has to be kept in mind is under what circumstances touching, whistling, or, at the worst, making a pass at a woman constitutes "sexual assault" let alone something "worse."Replies: @iSteveFan, @Mr. Anon
Would Till’s fate have been different if he had been a white guy from Chicago instead? In other words was he killed because he was black, which is how it was portrayed; or was he killed because he made an inappropriate remark towards another man’s wife?
In a honor culture, which parts of the South probably had, coming on to a man’s wife is a no-no. I suppose if I went to Pakistan and made a pass at some gal, I might end up dead too.
It's weird that so many would want to contextualize and excuse this honor killing when no one really wants to see more of them (they are really little different from duels in their wastefulness) and when the Bryants had few if any defenders, even if the people couldn't bring themselves to find the two guys guilty.
And, not to overstress the case, if Till had been a short polio stricken white kid with a stammer, they wouldn't have hunted him down and killed him. But they did murder Till.Replies: @Kylie, @iSteveFan, @ben tillman
In a honor culture, which parts of the South probably had, coming on to a man's wife is a no-no. I suppose if I went to Pakistan and made a pass at some gal, I might end up dead too.Replies: @Spmoore8, @Spmoore8
It was clearly an honor killing, as I pointed out originally. The problem is that I think honor killings are BS.
It’s weird that so many would want to contextualize and excuse this honor killing when no one really wants to see more of them (they are really little different from duels in their wastefulness) and when the Bryants had few if any defenders, even if the people couldn’t bring themselves to find the two guys guilty.
And, not to overstress the case, if Till had been a short polio stricken white kid with a stammer, they wouldn’t have hunted him down and killed him. But they did murder Till.
I'm looking for a word that describes hate, hostility or dislike for white people, countries, behavior or culture.
Here are some words created by a word generator
Micarnism – Micarnic
Vauntism – Vauntic
Hybovism – Hybovic
Limatism – Limatic
Exuatism – Exuatic
Felitism – Felitic
Adurism – Aduric
Esconism – Econic
Avolism – Avolic
Hetanism – Hetanic
Vote here
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Ted Cruz was called Felito as a child.
In a honor culture, which parts of the South probably had, coming on to a man's wife is a no-no. I suppose if I went to Pakistan and made a pass at some gal, I might end up dead too.Replies: @Spmoore8, @Spmoore8
Comparing the South to Muslim Pakistan in a positive degree is not a persuasive move.
What's astonishing is how the gay lib movement spun what should have ruined them forever in the public mind into a huge PR success. "Let's drop the trannies and pedos for now and focus on ourselves as the victims, not the cause, of AIDS." It worked brilliantly. All through my 90's youth people with AIDS were sainted, like that insufferable Pedro guy from MTV's "Real World."
#AIDSWinsReplies: @CJ, @tbraton
But in fact, AIDS did NOT spread to heterosexuals, whether by husbands on the down low or by prostitution. Today nobody who isn’t gay or a hard-drug user worries about getting AIDS.
Or was that your point?
Starting with our own esteemed host, each of has been the victim of white ethnic cleansing from the core and near-suburbs of America's great cities as a direct result of the Great Migration. We all have had fathers and ourselves become the sorts of fathers who live so far away from their jobs they spend 2-4 hours commuting every day which otherwise they could be spending with their families, not to mention all the attendant stress and cost. We also seem not to notice we are the sorts of fathers who must work as hard as we do because we are in a bidding war with every other dad trying to afford a house in one of the few areas spared by some quirk of geography, history, or administrative line-drawing the full effects of the Great Migration. And then when whatever it was that was shielding our community is suddenly withdrawn (Section 8 pressure, a new highway or bridge built) we turn tail and run instead of standing our ground, ignobly leaving our children's inheritance (in the form of the lost value of those suddenly less desirable houses) in the ground we have ceded. Think on that!Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Peace aside, it’s still sick.
Been talking to Jackie lately?Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
As an experiment, you can go to a 711 at one in the morning in a high-crime neighborhood that has a lone female employee and try duplicating the acts. Then write a post with a transcription of the police report. If it doesn’t include the words sexual assault, you win the argument. Remember to say the f word while you’re doing it.
Its great that you have such an expansive and sensitized idea of sexual assault. I don't.Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
I think Seran means a real word.
Yawn. You’re morally pure, we could all learn a lesson from you, yadda yadda yadda.
Now what? What is the internet’s appropriate response to this ancient murder, O pure one?
What happens when you abolish honour killing:
Estimated crime in United States-Total
year — Forcible rape rate relative to 1960 rate — executions for rape
1960 — 1.0x — 8
1961 — 1.0x — 9
1962 — 1.0x — 4
1963 — 1.0x — 2
1964 — 1.2x — 5 — last execution for rape
1965 — 1.3x
1966 — 1.4x
1967 — 1.5x
1968 — 1.7x
1969 — 1.9x
1970 — 1.9x
1971 — 2.1x
1972 — 2.3x
1973 — 2.6x
1974 — 2.7x
1975 — 2.7x
1976 — 2.8x
1977 — 3.1x
1978 — 3.2x
1979 — 3.6x
1980 — 3.8x
It's weird that so many would want to contextualize and excuse this honor killing when no one really wants to see more of them (they are really little different from duels in their wastefulness) and when the Bryants had few if any defenders, even if the people couldn't bring themselves to find the two guys guilty.
And, not to overstress the case, if Till had been a short polio stricken white kid with a stammer, they wouldn't have hunted him down and killed him. But they did murder Till.Replies: @Kylie, @iSteveFan, @ben tillman
“And, not to overstress the case, if Till had been a short polio stricken white kid with a stammer….”
You’ve got that leftwing disingenuous description ploy down pat.
Wikipedia describes the short polio stricken kid with a stammer as “stocky and muscular”. And he’d had polio eight years earlier, at age six.
From Wikipedia: “In 1955, Emmett was stocky and muscular, weighing about 150 pounds (68 kg) and standing 5 feet 4 inches (1.63 m). Despite his being 14 years old, whites in Mississippi claimed Till looked like an adult.”
He weighed about what my dad who was 6 feet 1 inch, and my uncle, who was 5 feet 7 inches, weighed in their early twenties according to their WWII enlistment records. He was a big kid for his age in that era.
Was Till at the Bryant store at 1 AM in a high crime neighborhood? What’s the evidence for using the f word? Or indeed that there was any physical contact?
Its great that you have such an expansive and sensitized idea of sexual assault. I don’t.
It's weird that so many would want to contextualize and excuse this honor killing when no one really wants to see more of them (they are really little different from duels in their wastefulness) and when the Bryants had few if any defenders, even if the people couldn't bring themselves to find the two guys guilty.
And, not to overstress the case, if Till had been a short polio stricken white kid with a stammer, they wouldn't have hunted him down and killed him. But they did murder Till.Replies: @Kylie, @iSteveFan, @ben tillman
They wouldn’t have needed to because such a kid would have been viewed as a jester, not a serious threat. But a healthy, strapping white guy would have been hunted down a la the Hatfield and McCoys.
I think it is. Because it clarifies the discrepancies in how the message keepers practice the oft repeated ‘who-whom’ meme. We all know if it had happened in Pakistan or any non-white place it would have been dismissed as a tragic, but simple honor killing. But if it happens with whites…
negro, colored, black, African-American. If we're playing the semantics game, I wonder what they will call themselves next.Replies: @snorlax
Seems like “Afrikan” is the most likely candidate to be the next ethnonym du jour. With the “K” – they’re reklaiming it from the Klan.
Yes, I’ve known people who were 5’4″. I think the word that is used for such people is “short”. And, by the same token, the words “imposing” and “threatening” are rarely used. And, yes, he had polio, which is a debilitating disease, he was 14, and he had difficulty speaking, which makes his reported speechifying less credible.
According to BMI calculations,
"The BMI of this young man is 25.7...
About 96 percent of young men at the age of 14 are below and 4 percent are above this value...the weight of this young man is considerably higher than average. "
And that's the assessment today when we have an obesity epidemic that disproportionately affects blacks. His size would have been even more noticeable sixty years ago. Combined with his cocky attitude, "imposing" and "threatening" aren't out of the question.
I'm just waiting for you to characterize him as a "gentle giant". You're as dishonest as Corvinus.
You may know her better as "Cyd Charisse."
http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/Franco-Columbu_106.html
What's astonishing is how the gay lib movement spun what should have ruined them forever in the public mind into a huge PR success. "Let's drop the trannies and pedos for now and focus on ourselves as the victims, not the cause, of AIDS." It worked brilliantly. All through my 90's youth people with AIDS were sainted, like that insufferable Pedro guy from MTV's "Real World."
#AIDSWinsReplies: @CJ, @tbraton
“What’s astonishing is how the gay lib movement spun what should have ruined them forever in the public mind into a huge PR success.”
Exactly. Plus it was a way to get the federal government to spend many billions of dollars on a disease that primarily affected blacks, Hispanics, IV drug users and homosexuals, not exactly groups that Americans cared about. By selling the line that everyone was at risk, they were able to garner wide public support to fight the scourge. That effort of mass deception continued for at least a decade past the point where it was known with certainty that the disease affected only the particular groups I cited. That’s why I cited the 1985 column that I read. They generally knew the basic facts of AIDS early on. What really burned me up was reading about how gays (who were the group most affected and the group which started the spread of the disease in the first place—as I recall, they were able to trace its origin to a gay airline steward who frequented the notorious bath houses in S.F.), after initially taking precautions to protect themselves from the dreadful disease, began abandoning the safeguards and engaging in risky behavior. Had they treated the disease the same way they had treated infectious diseases in the past (such as typhoid), they would have rounded up the infected persons and imposed a quarantine on them to stop the spread of AIDS and many fewer people would have been infected.
This article, on the other hand, is bizarre. I thought the shooting of Tamar Rice was wrong, but he was, after all, playing with a weapon that looked like a real firearm. One can lament his death, while at the same time pointing out that the incredible stupidity the kids displayed had more to do with his getting shot than any residual racism. It's not the first nor last time an unarmed person has been killed for holding what appears to be a weapon, I can think of numerous cases where white people have been killed by officers making the same mistake, most recently in Pennsylvania, where the woman officer was also let off the hook.
On top of that, Emmett Till has nothing to do with anything. In the first place, he was actually accused of something and then was murdered in a sort of "honor killing". Second, this didn't take place at a northern terminus of the Migration, but in the deep South, where Emmett had gone to spend the summer. I don't even know why Wilkerson brings this up, unless it is to imply that unconscious racism caused Tamar's death, when it would be more accurate to say that a rookie cop with little experience was too quick to pull the trigger (BTW, an Asian cop was just convicted of such a shooting in NYC the other day.)Replies: @ben tillman, @Cryptogenic, @anonymous-antimarxist, @interesting
You would think that on the 60 anniversary of Emmett Till’s murder it would be worth mentioning facts concerning his father. Are we really today to have no interest in knowing that Louis Till was a sexual psychopath and compulsive wife beating womanizer who was tried and convicted by a military court martial of multiple rapes and a homicide and then executed by hanging.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Till
Outside of Cultural Marxist Media, the prime example of which is the NYT, most educated people believe that extreme sexual psychopathy has a likely strong genetic component and is inheritable to some degree.
At the time of the first sensationalist coverage of Emmett Till’s murder it was a major embarrassment that some Northern media outlets did not uncover that Lois Till was a raping murdering sexual predator. From then on the growing power of the Cultural Marxist Media has made it impossible to do otherwise.
Now what? What is the internet's appropriate response to this ancient murder, O pure one?Replies: @Reg Cæsar
I knew some women who were pure and easy. Not by design. They were hideous.
Estimated crime in United States-Total
year -- Forcible rape rate relative to 1960 rate -- executions for rape
1960 -- 1.0x -- 8
1961 -- 1.0x -- 9
1962 -- 1.0x -- 4
1963 -- 1.0x -- 2
1964 -- 1.2x -- 5 -- last execution for rape
1965 -- 1.3x
1966 -- 1.4x
1967 -- 1.5x
1968 -- 1.7x
1969 -- 1.9x
1970 -- 1.9x
1971 -- 2.1x
1972 -- 2.3x
1973 -- 2.6x
1974 -- 2.7x
1975 -- 2.7x
1976 -- 2.8x
1977 -- 3.1x
1978 -- 3.2x
1979 -- 3.6x
1980 -- 3.8xReplies: @Reg Cæsar
Rapists deserve to be executed, but that doesn’t make it good policy. Not with women’s propensity for checkered testimony.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j556MWGVVqIReplies: @anonymous-antimarxist
Awesome!!!
Till was not just short, he was hefty.
According to BMI calculations,
“The BMI of this young man is 25.7…
About 96 percent of young men at the age of 14 are below and 4 percent are above this value…the weight of this young man is considerably higher than average. ”
And that’s the assessment today when we have an obesity epidemic that disproportionately affects blacks. His size would have been even more noticeable sixty years ago. Combined with his cocky attitude, “imposing” and “threatening” aren’t out of the question.
I’m just waiting for you to characterize him as a “gentle giant”. You’re as dishonest as Corvinus.
At which level would you place an attitude that blacks and whites simply cannot live together, at least not in large numbers? (I think that this was characteristic of both Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln and might have characterized most white southerners through the 1960s.)
This is something I've been thinking about because, while my attitudes are what we call racist today, I have no hatred of blacks. I interact amicably with black store clerks and the aides at the Alzheimer's home where my mother resides. I bear them no ill will. I am always pleased when I encounter an intelligent, well-socialized black who isn't full of grievances. At the same time, I accept racial reality and would consider myself a Level 2 or perhaps the new Level 1.5.
I know a guy I would consider a Level 1 racist. Takes a bizarre delight in using the "n-word." I find that gratuitous and distasteful.Replies: @Kylie
One thing that tends to be forgotten about the Emmett Till case is that, even though the two guys who killed him got away with it, in court, they didn't get away with it in real life. All the black sharecroppers boycotted the Bryant store, and it went out of business. In the same way, the white folks down there shunned the killers and their families. Just because they were acquitted, and then had the audacity to describe the killing in detail to Bradford Huie, doesn't mean that the people who actually lived around them didn't feel they had committed murder. IIRC, there was a similar dynamic in play for the 1964 Civil Rights murders.Replies: @ben tillman, @27 year old
100% certain emitt till was a rapist according to tumblr’s current definition of rape.
Could the same factors be at work with respect to the Black Great Migration? Was it initially sparked because low skill Black labor was needed when European immigration to Northern cities was reduced? Did Blacks initially move North in reaction to historically low immigration levels and is the outmigration of Blacks from California and many Northern cities a reaction to increased competition from renewed high levels of immigration?Replies: @EvolutionistX
I think so. The availability of factory jobs during WWII probably also played a role, and Southern agriculture changed during that time, radically reducing the demand for black laborers.
Most obviously, industrialization introduced tractors, seed spreaders, artificial fertilizers, weed killers, pesticides, harvesters etc., all of which drastically reduced the need for humans to actually work the fields. These days, one farmer with a tractor can do just about everything by himself, though he might need to hire a few extra guys at harvest time.
The disease factor is not as obvious, but big chunks of the South were formerly basically off-limits to whites due to diseases like malaria, yellow fever, and hookworms. Blacks are less susceptible to these diseases, and so died less often in areas where they were common. Blacks living in these areas were pretty much left alone and ran their own communities. But with the draining of the swamps, eradication of tropical diseases and parasites, the invention of air conditioning, etc., blacks lost their advantage and whites moved in.
I read some of the old stories about life in these little towns in the South back in the 30s or before, and sure, life was hard and people were poor, but it seems like they had a sense of dignity and community that folks living in projects in big Northern cities seem to lack. But maybe I’m just projecting.
Sorry for not clutching my pearls sufficiently at a murder that happened decades before I was born in a stare I’ve never been to involving people I have no connection to.
Probably but I don’t care. I don’t ever want to hear another word about that rapist’s son again. I’m sick of being beaten over the head with the death of a probable predator decades before I was born in an area I’ve never been to. Buying into the Till martyrdom narrative does me no favors.
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OT, funny – I was reading on Breitbart:
The five stages of Donald Trump (for liberals): denial, anger, bargaining, depression and making America great again.
See Woody Guthrie’s “Pretty Boy Floyd.” Guthrie is — I say this with love — of the far left politically and is writing a song highly sympathetic to its hero. He expected people to accept this moral logic:
My first father-in-law–who was extremely successful with his first novel then never got around to publishing another–used to lie on the sofa in his office at home in Riverdale, NY every afternoon when his work was done, staring at the ceiling and listening to all of All Things Considered, writhing and screaming the whole time. I think it was his pointing out to me the ostentatiously echt pronunciation María Hinojosa would apply to her own name (and that absolutely all the reporters applied to the word “Nicaragua”) that rendered NPR pretty much unlistenable for me.
He had a gorgeous view of the Hudson and the Palisades from that office, but apparently he preferred the ceiling.
But what really repelled me to the point of feeling physically sick, was their music. It is deliberately snark. Sounds like, "I am telling you what and how to think, with the stories I want you to know about, I know best, and I know what I know is not the truth but I say believe it because I have the mike and I have an agenda against the majority of you listening but you don't know it cuz you're stupid....blah blah blah." Or something like that. Substitute your own lyrics. It's the sound of that music that is so obnoxious.
Ah yes, I remember the Nicaragua signalling on NPR: we are better people than you, because we say Neek!arag!wa - we are so culturally sensitive. I wonder if they had contests among themselves over who could say it better? I can just imagine Cory Flintoff thinking to himself: "I'm better than Susan Stamberg because I pronounce "Nicaragua" with a more ridiculous movie-bandito accent."
Of course, they never said "Moskva" or "Bairleen" or "Roma" or "Varshava". European place-names never rated the hyper-native pronunciation.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
It's a lib affectation only applied to their little Third World cousins. I still use Bombay and Peking; when Sapphire and Duck pronounce it differently, I'll take it under advisement. If "corrected", I ask if they call the capital of France "Pah-ree". If they say no, I ask why not.
view his murder for the horror it is
Are there not many other murders that don’t get proper horror views?
The problem with rallying around this one incident is that you get a “holier than thou death spiral”; where first you come for those that thought it was proper street justice; then you come for those who rate it no worse than any average murder; then you come for those who don’t show level one obeisance; then you come for those who don’t show level 2 obeisance;…
Not only do you have to keep clapping, but you have to clap louder and louder, and pretty soon you have today’s Left.
Good question. Perhaps I need to create a level between #1 and #2.
This is something I’ve been thinking about because, while my attitudes are what we call racist today, I have no hatred of blacks. I interact amicably with black store clerks and the aides at the Alzheimer’s home where my mother resides. I bear them no ill will. I am always pleased when I encounter an intelligent, well-socialized black who isn’t full of grievances. At the same time, I accept racial reality and would consider myself a Level 2 or perhaps the new Level 1.5.
I know a guy I would consider a Level 1 racist. Takes a bizarre delight in using the “n-word.” I find that gratuitous and distasteful.
But overall when I think of blacks and whites living in the same nation, the phrase that comes to mind is "irreconcilable differences".
Exactly. Plus it was a way to get the federal government to spend many billions of dollars on a disease that primarily affected blacks, Hispanics, IV drug users and homosexuals, not exactly groups that Americans cared about. By selling the line that everyone was at risk, they were able to garner wide public support to fight the scourge. That effort of mass deception continued for at least a decade past the point where it was known with certainty that the disease affected only the particular groups I cited. That's why I cited the 1985 column that I read. They generally knew the basic facts of AIDS early on. What really burned me up was reading about how gays (who were the group most affected and the group which started the spread of the disease in the first place---as I recall, they were able to trace its origin to a gay airline steward who frequented the notorious bath houses in S.F.), after initially taking precautions to protect themselves from the dreadful disease, began abandoning the safeguards and engaging in risky behavior. Had they treated the disease the same way they had treated infectious diseases in the past (such as typhoid), they would have rounded up the infected persons and imposed a quarantine on them to stop the spread of AIDS and many fewer people would have been infected.Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Cryptogenic
Agree with all of the above. AIDS is pretty hard to get; you need blood to blood contact. Originally the risk factors were the 4 Hs – Haitians, heroin, hemophilia, and homosexuals. But the gay lobby with the help of the MSM turned risk taking behavior into billions of dollars spent on “victims”. Did you know that having AIDS can qualify you for Social Security disability? https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10019.pdf
He had a gorgeous view of the Hudson and the Palisades from that office, but apparently he preferred the ceiling.Replies: @dcite, @Mr. Anon, @Brutusale
I stopped listening to NPR mostly because of their bias that gradually made them sound more like parody than real reporting, even from the objective viewpoints I was seeking. When some acquaintance or colleague cites an NPR show as a reference, I almost write them off (almost, because sometimes they seem to get it that NPR is full of it.)
But what really repelled me to the point of feeling physically sick, was their music. It is deliberately snark. Sounds like, “I am telling you what and how to think, with the stories I want you to know about, I know best, and I know what I know is not the truth but I say believe it because I have the mike and I have an agenda against the majority of you listening but you don’t know it cuz you’re stupid….blah blah blah.” Or something like that. Substitute your own lyrics. It’s the sound of that music that is so obnoxious.
The Emmett Till case is basically the O. J. Simpson case with the races reversed.
In the first, two white guys go berserk over a perceived slight and kill a black guy and get acquitted by a white jury, and in the second, a black guy goes berserk over a perceived slight and kills a white girl and hapless white bystander and gets acquitted by a black jury.
Odd that we haven’t been exhorted to draw the mirror-image lesson from the O. J. Simpson case that we are regularly exhorted to draw from the Emmett Till case. If O. J. hadn’t been famous, we wouldn’t have even heard of the second case.
Exactly. Plus it was a way to get the federal government to spend many billions of dollars on a disease that primarily affected blacks, Hispanics, IV drug users and homosexuals, not exactly groups that Americans cared about. By selling the line that everyone was at risk, they were able to garner wide public support to fight the scourge. That effort of mass deception continued for at least a decade past the point where it was known with certainty that the disease affected only the particular groups I cited. That's why I cited the 1985 column that I read. They generally knew the basic facts of AIDS early on. What really burned me up was reading about how gays (who were the group most affected and the group which started the spread of the disease in the first place---as I recall, they were able to trace its origin to a gay airline steward who frequented the notorious bath houses in S.F.), after initially taking precautions to protect themselves from the dreadful disease, began abandoning the safeguards and engaging in risky behavior. Had they treated the disease the same way they had treated infectious diseases in the past (such as typhoid), they would have rounded up the infected persons and imposed a quarantine on them to stop the spread of AIDS and many fewer people would have been infected.Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Cryptogenic
There is also a thing among gay males for purposely sharing viruses to simulate impregnation and fatherhood. I don’t know what it’s called but I’m sure the practice has a name, as gay men are very interested in the classification and taxonomy of their myriad hobbies. Michel Foucault, infected with AIDS in SF bathhouses, knowingly spread it to others. There seems to be a desire to acquire and share AIDS and infected gay men don’t always seem unhappy about being HIV positive.
Steve once asked rhetorically, regarding Mathew Shepherd, “What do gays actually do?” The answer seems obvious to me. They try to accomplish what nature set out to do: destroy themselves and each other and leave no genetic trace behind.
I’ve also noticed that blacks complain and point as evidence of racism that they’re often the only black person somewhere. That’s not racism, that’s called being a minority.
and the same with Genius T. Coates. It’s not racist that he grew up with poor, violent blacks and not in Baldwin Hills where black shoot each other with less regularity than Baltimore. That’s class segregation by blacks, not racism by whites.
It’s racial dyslexia.
Or was that your point?Replies: @Cryptogenic
I see your point and am coming around to that conclusion. I’m fascinated (if that’s the right word) by this massive, decades long and wildly effective con.
Here’s an article about a shooting that destroyed the lives of two promising young artists. Both were young people, full of hope and dreams, both actively pursuing those dreams, until a tragic twist of fate befell them on New Year’s Eve 2015.
One victim was the white co-ed who got shot, the other one was the black Marine who shot her. Both had promising lives until one of the victims pulled up next to a car with the other victim on New Year’s Eve, and a crude sexual proposition occurred, seemingly from nowhere. When one of the victims turned down the request, a shooting somehow happened, and in an instant, two innocent lives were destroyed.
You really have to read this article to believe it. The media’s hatred of whites is getting so blatant that they don’t even try to cover it up, and now put black murderers on the same plane as their white victims, in the same story. What should’ve been a glowing portrait of the victim is actually a glowing portrait of both the victim and the murderer.
Judging by the comment section, Dallas Morning News readers are not happy.
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/headlines/20160212-new-year-s-shooting-at-denton-intersection-ended-artistic-dreams-for-slain-unt-student-marine-charged-in-her-murder.ece
I bet you marched to Free Mandela, didn’t you
Emmett Till died for sexually harassing a white woman. He wasn’t a charming and innocent 14 year old boy. And he probably would’ve been a whole lot less charming by age 19. The men who killed him committed murder, but they also likely saved some (or maybe many) women from attack by a black serial rapist, along the lines of Eldredge Cleaver.
Same with me, great to hear what bugaboo the enemy is harrumphing about.
“Or something like that. Substitute your own lyrics. It’s the sound of that music that is so obnoxious.”
I noticed that after 9/11, the NPR news shows started using a lot of arab music for their segues. It was blatant propaganda – we are going to rub your nose in things arab, even after arabs attacked your country, because you are a bigot who needs to embrace “the other”.
I think the practice of deliberately becoming infected is called bug chasing.
He had a gorgeous view of the Hudson and the Palisades from that office, but apparently he preferred the ceiling.Replies: @dcite, @Mr. Anon, @Brutusale
“I think it was his pointing out to me the ostentatiously echt pronunciation María Hinojosa would apply to her own name (and that absolutely all the reporters applied to the word “Nicaragua”) that rendered NPR pretty much unlistenable for me.”
Ah yes, I remember the Nicaragua signalling on NPR: we are better people than you, because we say Neek!arag!wa – we are so culturally sensitive. I wonder if they had contests among themselves over who could say it better? I can just imagine Cory Flintoff thinking to himself: “I’m better than Susan Stamberg because I pronounce “Nicaragua” with a more ridiculous movie-bandito accent.”
Of course, they never said “Moskva” or “Bairleen” or “Roma” or “Varshava”. European place-names never rated the hyper-native pronunciation.
What I am responding to is the claim is that Till "sexually assaulted" Carolyn Bryant, and second, that he did something "worse" than sexual assault.
In the first place, Carolyn Bryant either perjured herself to her girlfriend, her husband, or the FBI, and the only source that Till touched her, or "grabbed" or "groped" her is Carolyn Bryant, who is an unreliable witness.
This is an important point, since, as we might recall, we have spent a lot of time discussing the validity or even the veracity of sexual assault claims that are verifiable by the woman alone, and in particular, by an unreliable woman.
The next point that has to be kept in mind is under what circumstances touching, whistling, or, at the worst, making a pass at a woman constitutes "sexual assault" let alone something "worse."Replies: @iSteveFan, @Mr. Anon
“In the first place, Carolyn Bryant either perjured herself to her girlfriend, her husband, or the FBI, and the only source that Till touched her, or “grabbed” or “groped” her is Carolyn Bryant, who is an unreliable witness.”
If Till had raped her (or for that matter had consenual sex with her), and then her husband and his pals had murdered him for it, I would not necessarily expect her to be honest about it, as a.) it would impugn her honor, and b.) it might tend to incriminate her husband.
In any event, I don’t pretend to know what happened. My position on the Emmett Till affair is this: It was one particular incident that happened 60 years ago. And since that time there have been far more whites killed by blacks than the obverse, and indeed more than would be expected by the population statistics alone. So I don’t give half-a-s**t about Emmett Till.
I am so confused. I thought all this racial animus would end when Crayola, named the crayon formerly known as Flesh, Peach. Wasn’t that enough? Does it never end?
How many black voters in South Carolina and Nevada read the New York Times? I would be surprised if that number exceeds double digits.
“Gross comment. I think it’s people who cannot view his murder for the horror it is that is likely the impetus for its perceived endless repetition.”
Do NPR and the New York Times trot out annual stories about the Carr Brothers or about the murder of Shannon Christian and Christopher Newsome? Those both happened within the last twenty and ten years respectively. And the repetition of those horrors is not “perceived” but actual and occurs with some frequency.
I don’t care about your delicate concerns. They are not my concerns.
“I have a cassette tape on which I used to collect the most over-the-top NPR stories. I think my favorite title was “Lesbian Dance Troupe in Havana Shatters Old Stereotypes.””
One of my favorite NPR stories was an (unironic and sympathetic) account of a New York City photographer who decided to help homeless teens by giving them cameras, so they could “document their environment” or some such. He claimed it would be empowering for them. I would have thought that food, clothing, and shelter would be more helpful, but I’m just an ignorant bigot out in jesus-land, so what do I know?
A set of these tales occupied our collective mental space and made us less stupid. At 32 I'm probably among the last generation to play with toy guns that looked like real guns (who wants a gay orange AK-47?), and, looking back, we really did spontaneously develop a code of toy gun conduct, just like soldiers with real guns.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Buffalo Joe
Gentile Ben, I am 70, so we actually shot each other with our Daisy BB guns…but you touch on children killed by cops. I don’t see too many or any of those stories but lots of stories about youngsters shot/ killed in the hood by stray bullets. Just Google “Three year old, or two year, or 10 month old shot in_______.”, and add a city name. Sad.
And since we use the 2015 definition of racism to judge those of the past, shouldn’t we also use the 2015 definition of rape to do the same?
Kinda like Bernhard Goetz (feel that Bern!). Only one of the boys who attacked him didn’t go on to be charged with rape– the one he shot and paralyzed.
I’ve never thought much about the Till case. Of course I was aware of it, but always took what had been reported as fact. Yet the comments on this thread have seriously flushed out the credible possibility that this was an honor killing. And that Till would have met the same fate had he been white.
If so then might this have been a Trayvon-type story decades before Trayvon? We’ve all seen how the media will push a story even when facts emerge that challenge the narrative. In the 1950s there really wasn’t any alternative to the MSM. So if they did decided to run with Till’s murder to highlight ‘Jim Crow’, there wasn’t any realistic way to counteract their narrative with the facts on the ground.
But what I don’t understand is this. If an innocent black was being lynched every other day or so, why not run with one of those stories instead of Till’s? Why is it when the media run with the man-bites-dog story of white-on-black crime, they so often double down on a victim who is less than sympathetic? That’s not to say there are not instances where the white perpetrator is a bad actor and the black victims are blameless, eg Dylann Roof. But so often they get behind a black victim who at best provoked the situation.
Was it really that hard for them to find a more cut-and-dried example back then?
I'm looking for a word that describes hate, hostility or dislike for white people, countries, behavior or culture.
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http://www.poll-maker.com/poll577495xd8FBe5C7-24Replies: @Rob McX, @SPMoore8, @iffen, @Buffalo Joe, @anowow, @Drapetomaniac, @ben tillman, @Glossy, @Auntie Analogue, @Reg Cæsar, @Glaivester
Antijaphetism.
Antisemitism = hatred of Jews
Antijaphetism = hatred of european Gentiles
When you mentioned the photographer story, I thought that the kids would end up mugging him and hocking the equipment!
It's weird that so many would want to contextualize and excuse this honor killing when no one really wants to see more of them (they are really little different from duels in their wastefulness) and when the Bryants had few if any defenders, even if the people couldn't bring themselves to find the two guys guilty.
And, not to overstress the case, if Till had been a short polio stricken white kid with a stammer, they wouldn't have hunted him down and killed him. But they did murder Till.Replies: @Kylie, @iSteveFan, @ben tillman
I’m not trying to excuse it, but I’m absolutely impelled to contextualize it. The Emmett Till is a classic in the genre of propaganda through decontextualization. Even to the extent the story is true, the storyteller is lying because the story is offered as a representation of race relations in this country. And that representation is false.
I am all for contextualization because after all even murders have a reason. But murder is still murder.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
This is something I've been thinking about because, while my attitudes are what we call racist today, I have no hatred of blacks. I interact amicably with black store clerks and the aides at the Alzheimer's home where my mother resides. I bear them no ill will. I am always pleased when I encounter an intelligent, well-socialized black who isn't full of grievances. At the same time, I accept racial reality and would consider myself a Level 2 or perhaps the new Level 1.5.
I know a guy I would consider a Level 1 racist. Takes a bizarre delight in using the "n-word." I find that gratuitous and distasteful.Replies: @Kylie
I share your attitude. I have a black Facebook friend who lives in a nicer house than I do. I’m happy for her. She works hard and volunteers at her local animal shelter. I send her cash in the mail to help pay shelter dogs’ vet bills. I KNOW she uses the money as promised. She’s a person of bedrock integrity.
But overall when I think of blacks and whites living in the same nation, the phrase that comes to mind is “irreconcilable differences”.
This article, on the other hand, is bizarre. I thought the shooting of Tamar Rice was wrong, but he was, after all, playing with a weapon that looked like a real firearm. One can lament his death, while at the same time pointing out that the incredible stupidity the kids displayed had more to do with his getting shot than any residual racism. It's not the first nor last time an unarmed person has been killed for holding what appears to be a weapon, I can think of numerous cases where white people have been killed by officers making the same mistake, most recently in Pennsylvania, where the woman officer was also let off the hook.
On top of that, Emmett Till has nothing to do with anything. In the first place, he was actually accused of something and then was murdered in a sort of "honor killing". Second, this didn't take place at a northern terminus of the Migration, but in the deep South, where Emmett had gone to spend the summer. I don't even know why Wilkerson brings this up, unless it is to imply that unconscious racism caused Tamar's death, when it would be more accurate to say that a rookie cop with little experience was too quick to pull the trigger (BTW, an Asian cop was just convicted of such a shooting in NYC the other day.)Replies: @ben tillman, @Cryptogenic, @anonymous-antimarxist, @interesting
“Tamar Rice was wrong, but he was, after all, playing with a weapon that looked like a real firearm”
that one was way fucking wrong, and done by a guy that shouldn’t even be a cop.
the worse part was the 911 caller told dispatch that he was “pretty sure it was a fake gun” and dispatch didn’t relay that info to the cops on the street…… but who rolls up on a kid with a ‘potential’ gun like we saw in that video? no attempt to do any surveillance, they just rolled up, got out and started shooting. No logic or reason involved….meaning, why would a kid be walking around a park with a real gun???
I'm no fan of these (many) egregious shootings by police officers. But they happen frequently, and the people killed are usually not black. Therefore these are not racial killings. Therefore turning Rice into a Black Martyr for #BLM purposes is just demagoguery.
Rice should not have been playing with a realistic toy with the orange tip removed. Simple as that. While I'd like to see the Rice's get some closure/payoff/justice in this case, I'm not surprised they did not. That's just the way it is.
that one was way fucking wrong, and done by a guy that shouldn't even be a cop.
the worse part was the 911 caller told dispatch that he was "pretty sure it was a fake gun" and dispatch didn't relay that info to the cops on the street...... but who rolls up on a kid with a 'potential' gun like we saw in that video? no attempt to do any surveillance, they just rolled up, got out and started shooting. No logic or reason involved....meaning, why would a kid be walking around a park with a real gun???Replies: @SPMoore8, @Rob McX
I remember playing cops and robbers with a friend of mine behind a strip mall with fairly realistic toy weapons many, many years ago and turning a corner to find myself face to face with a nervous young police officer who was pointing a loaded shotgun at my chest. There but for the grace of God …..
I’m no fan of these (many) egregious shootings by police officers. But they happen frequently, and the people killed are usually not black. Therefore these are not racial killings. Therefore turning Rice into a Black Martyr for #BLM purposes is just demagoguery.
Rice should not have been playing with a realistic toy with the orange tip removed. Simple as that. While I’d like to see the Rice’s get some closure/payoff/justice in this case, I’m not surprised they did not. That’s just the way it is.
If you read my comments carefully you will see that I agree that Emmett Till shouldn’t be constantly brought up as emblematic of race relations in the US, but it is, after all, Black History Month, so I guess it’s better than being told that Nefertiti was a black woman and only a conspiracy of German archaeologists has concealed that truth.
I am all for contextualization because after all even murders have a reason. But murder is still murder.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_TillOutside of Cultural Marxist Media, the prime example of which is the NYT, most educated people believe that extreme sexual psychopathy has a likely strong genetic component and is inheritable to some degree.
At the time of the first sensationalist coverage of Emmett Till's murder it was a major embarrassment that some Northern media outlets did not uncover that Lois Till was a raping murdering sexual predator. From then on the growing power of the Cultural Marxist Media has made it impossible to do otherwise.Replies: @SPMoore8
The prisoners in Pisa were for a time kept in cages like dog kennels. If you actually read the Cantos straight through, you will note that Pound frequently slips into Southern patois and I believe in those passages he is giving voice to Louis Till, in addition to the better known reference you cite. Worth checking out.
Tula Ellice Finklea had polio as a child.
You may know her better as “Cyd Charisse.”
Ah yes, I remember the Nicaragua signalling on NPR: we are better people than you, because we say Neek!arag!wa - we are so culturally sensitive. I wonder if they had contests among themselves over who could say it better? I can just imagine Cory Flintoff thinking to himself: "I'm better than Susan Stamberg because I pronounce "Nicaragua" with a more ridiculous movie-bandito accent."
Of course, they never said "Moskva" or "Bairleen" or "Roma" or "Varshava". European place-names never rated the hyper-native pronunciation.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Of course not. We have enough respect for the importance of those places to have our own names for them.
I am all for contextualization because after all even murders have a reason. But murder is still murder.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
I kind of wish Leni Riefenstahl had concealed those Sudanese schlongs. I’ll never get that image out of my mind.
that one was way fucking wrong, and done by a guy that shouldn't even be a cop.
the worse part was the 911 caller told dispatch that he was "pretty sure it was a fake gun" and dispatch didn't relay that info to the cops on the street...... but who rolls up on a kid with a 'potential' gun like we saw in that video? no attempt to do any surveillance, they just rolled up, got out and started shooting. No logic or reason involved....meaning, why would a kid be walking around a park with a real gun???Replies: @SPMoore8, @Rob McX
Alternative ending: “Child gets hold of loaded pistol, shoots one of his friends while police dither and try to decide what to do. Cops would have taken control of the situation much faster if it were white kids, etc.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_and_Emmett
Janet Langhart Cohen is the spouse of former Defense Secretary William Cohen.Replies: @ben tillman, @Brutusale
Janet Langhart, former TV reporter in Boston, is about as black as the average iSteve reader.
Its great that you have such an expansive and sensitized idea of sexual assault. I don't.Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
Ok, “just after dark” in rural 1950s South. In a modern city you need to stay up later to get as isolated.
I hope this doesn’t sound racist, but if you’re a lone cashier in a store after dark, and there’s 6 blacks loitering out front in the parking lot, and one of them has a father who was executed for multiple rapes and a murder, you might perceive yourself to be in a high crime neighborhood.
From a mainstream source:
It doesn’t prove anything, but it is evidence.
Here’s a guy 5’5:. Is he “imposing” or “threatening”? You gonna mess with him?
http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/Franco-Columbu_106.html
He had a gorgeous view of the Hudson and the Palisades from that office, but apparently he preferred the ceiling.Replies: @dcite, @Mr. Anon, @Brutusale
Maria wasn’t nearly as pretentious as Mandalit del Barco.
It’s a lib affectation only applied to their little Third World cousins. I still use Bombay and Peking; when Sapphire and Duck pronounce it differently, I’ll take it under advisement. If “corrected”, I ask if they call the capital of France “Pah-ree”. If they say no, I ask why not.
Steve, Hildabeast stopped for a campaign function in Beaumont, TX. I know not many know where that is but as part of this stop she went to an Islamic fundraiser.
She lifted $500,000. from this group.
I have not heard one peep from the democrat spokespeople (mainstream media) about her stops at Muslim fundraisers. My thought is if she became President (God forbid) what would we as America have to give up to Islam in repayment?