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With a second Mariel Boatlift likely over the next few years, it’s worth reassessing the first one (1980). One of the most popular papers in economics is David Card’s claim that the Law of Supply and Demand doesn’t apply to immigration because wages didn’t fall in Miami in 1980-1984 compared to four other American cities.

As I’ve been pointing out for years, though, ceteris wasn’t paribus in these five cities in 1980-1984 because Miami was enjoying a world famous Cocaine Boom, as depicted in well-known movies like Scarface (1983) and TV shows like Miami Vice (1984).

But economists aren’t supposed to learn things from anywhere outside of economics journals.

Now, however, Harvard labor economist George Borjas has written a study pointing out that wages in Miami among high school dropouts got hammered by the Mariel Boatlift.

The Wage Impact of the Marielitos: A Reappraisal

George J. Borjas

ABSTRACT

This paper brings a new perspective to the analysis of the Mariel supply shock, revisiting the question and the data armed with the accumulated insights from the vast literature on the economic impact of immigration. A crucial lesson from this literature is that any credible attempt to measure the wage impact of immigration must carefully match the skills of the immigrants with those of the pre-existing workers. The Marielitos were disproportionately low-skill; at least 60 percent were high school dropouts. A reappraisal of the Mariel evidence, specifically examining the evolution of wages in the low-skill group most likely to be affected, quickly overturns the finding that Mariel did not affect Miami’s wage structure. The absolute wage of high school dropouts in Miami dropped dramatically, as did the wage of high school dropouts relative to that of either high school graduates or college graduates. The drop in the relative wage of the least educated Miamians was substantial (10 to 30 percent), implying an elasticity of wages with respect to the number of workers between -0.5 and -1.5. The analysis also documents the sensitivity of the estimated wage impact to the choice of a placebo. The measured impact is much smaller when the placebo consists of cities where pre-Mariel employment growth was weak relative to Miami.

This shouldn’t be too surprising since Miami high school dropouts in 1980 were heavily African-American, and Miami blacks were notoriously angry about the changes in their city after Mariel, rioting three times in the 1980s.

But who cares about poor African Americans? It was a good time in Miami to be a lawyer, banker, real estate developer, or all-purpose businessman with connections, such as Jeb Bush, who moved to Miami in late 1980.

 
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  1. The White looking people in Scarface are not even ethnically Cuban in real life. A bunch of Italians playing Cubans has given Unz readers the impression that Cuba in real life must be as racially White as any Southern European country. When Cuba in real life is not even as White as Argentina and Uruguay, let alone Southern Europe.

    This is how you know Cuba is not a White country, most of the street prostitutes there are either Black or Mulatto. Pics of Cuban street hookers.

    Yet if I were to go to Russia or The Ukraine for example, most of the street hookers there are going to be White.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Jefferson

    I'm happy to see you're well-informed on the race of street hookers around the world. ;)

    Seriously, the street hooker index shows you the racial composition of a society's lower echelons in their large cities. As such, it gives you a very slanted view. A society can have a large minority that winds up as street hookers but isn't representative of the larger population.

    Sure, if the street hookers are white, the society as a whole is probably white (since at present time no society where whites are the underclass exists)--it's specific but not sensitive.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @iSteveFan

    , @anonymous
    @Jefferson


    This is how you know Cuba is not a White country, most of the street prostitutes there are either Black or Mulatto. Pics of Cuban street hookers.
     
    Might be more of a function of who is on the bottom of the totem pole in any society. The street types in majority white cities are usually disproportionally black and mixed types. A question could be asked about who are the customers, are they also black/mulatto?

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Triumph104

    , @(((Owen)))
    @Jefferson


    This is how you know Cuba is not a White country, most of the street prostitutes there are either Black or Mulatto. Pics of Cuban street hookers.

     

    This is how you know Japan isn't an Asian country. The highest demand expensive call girls are mostly blonde.

    This is how you know the Netherlands isn't a white country. The red-light district prostitutes are mostly southeast Asian.

    Replies: @Jefferson

  2. Latest Onion headline: Columbia Student Claims To Be Traumatized By Reading About White People http://goo.gl/H064PG

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Luke Lea

    "Latest Onion headline: Columbia Student Claims To Be Traumatized By Reading About White People"

    Hep me!!!! I am traumatized by too much black rap and Jewish humor.

    Hep!!!!

    , @Mustela Mendax
    @Luke Lea

    "Onionesque" would be a better choice of words. The event in question is reality, which anymore is a lot funnier than the Onion.

    , @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    @Luke Lea

    "The mental anguish of studying the Western canon."
    It must be like being a Washington generals fan and always being forced to watch Harlem Globetrotters highlights. Sure, your team is in the video, but they're always the losers.

    Replies: @Thomas O. Meehan

  3. why does decline in wages of blacks bother you

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @wolfy

    My fellow citizens, past and future.

    , @epebble
    @wolfy

    Because decline in wages leads to increased crime. It is nothing exclusive to blacks only. When the wages declined after 2008, many whites suddenly became "disabled". We have a very low labor participation rate now. Many rationalized this fraud as an economic decision due to lower wages.

    , @Anonymo1
    @wolfy

    In the McDuffie riots in Miami, 8 Whites were killed by blacks.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @wolfy


    why does decline in wages of blacks bother you

     

    Why wouldn't it bother you?

    Let's work this out:

    1) You don't capitalize and punctuate because you are a busy executive who doesn't have time. In this case, the EBT, Section 8 funds, and everything else is coming out of your income taxes. You should care.

    2) You don't capitalize and punctuate because you were poorly educated, and thus have trouble finding a decently paying job. Those blacks are competing with you on your level. You should care.

    3) You live in Vermont, Idaho, some similar state with few blacks, or abroad. Should you care? Maybe not, but you should shut up about it.*

    4) You're an Aspergery pseudolibertarian who finds capitalization and punctuation oppressive, but has no problem with the government subsidizing your cheap labor nor with the eminent domain used to expand the highway that shortens your commute.

    *note to Steve, Ron, or other screeners: I agree that it is very rude to tell another commenter to shut up, and have never done it before in years of commenting here, from the beginning. But go back and look at his question, and tell me he doesn't have it coming good and hard.

    Replies: @ic1000

  4. Given that US blacks are probably the laziest and least efficient group of workers in the Western hemisphere, it’s no suprise that employers would prefer to hire hard[er]-working immigrants over AfAms. Too bad the Cubans weren’t hired as riot police to neutralize the insurgencies of Obama’s kinfolk.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @AndrewR

    "Too bad the Cubans weren’t hired as riot police to neutralize the insurgencies of Obama’s kinfolk."

    Nestor Camacho-like Latino cops caused most of Miami's 1980s riots by whomping on black motorists.

    , @Big Bill
    @AndrewR

    Or they could raise wages to an American standard and hire Americans.

  5. @Luke Lea
    Latest Onion headline: Columbia Student Claims To Be Traumatized By Reading About White People http://goo.gl/H064PG

    Replies: @Anon, @Mustela Mendax, @Je Suis Charlie Martel

    “Latest Onion headline: Columbia Student Claims To Be Traumatized By Reading About White People”

    Hep me!!!! I am traumatized by too much black rap and Jewish humor.

    Hep!!!!

  6. This whole business of waves of immigrants entering Europe and crossing our southwestern border is one big Mariel boatlift, isn’t it? A dirty trick played on us by the immigrants’ home countries? So much is happening on a bigger scale, at the present time – it seems pointless to dwell on minute details of the earlier prototypical event.

  7. No Asians, or mestizos on this list either. Guess only whites should go to college.
    Plato
    Aristotle
    Palladio – classical architecture
    Wright – modern architecture
    Leeuwenhoek – microscope
    Copernicus
    Galileo – structure of solar system
    Kepler – planetary orbits
    Newton – calculus, mechanics
    James Watt – Steam Engine
    Stephenson – Railroad
    Mendel – genetics
    Lyell – geology
    Linnaeus – biology systematics
    Darwin – evolution
    Hobbes – theory of government
    Locke – theory of government
    Washington – stepping down
    Adam Smith – economics
    Pasteur – germ theory of disease
    Faraday – experimental EM
    Maxwell – theoretical EM
    Shakespeare
    (pre Bach)
    Bach
    Beethoven
    Brahms
    Verdi
    Mozart
    Leonardo da Vinci
    Michelangelo
    Rembrandt
    Van Gogh
    Picasso
    Pollock
    Warhol
    Wilbur&Orville Wright Human Flight
    Whittle – Jet Plane
    Goddard – Rockets
    J Willard Gibbs – Physical Chem.
    Haber & Bosch nitrogen fertilizer
    Werner Heisenberg QM
    Erwin Schrodinger QM
    Dirac QM
    Albert Einstein – relativity
    Hubble – size of universe
    Edison – electric light, recording
    Fessenden – radio
    Turing – computer theory
    John Atanasoff- first digital computer
    Tom Flowers- first programmable digital computer
    Wegener – continental drift
    Fermi – nuclear fission
    Pauling -quantum chemistry
    Crick – DNA
    Borlaug – Green Revolution
    Shockley – transistor
    Backus (Fortran)
    Thompson – UNIX
    Ritchie – C

    • Replies: @carol
    @Robert Hume

    Oh dear, someone slipped "Warhol" onto your list.

    , @Anon
    @Robert Hume

    Warhol? Warhol!!???? Warhol??????!!!!!!

  8. @Luke Lea
    Latest Onion headline: Columbia Student Claims To Be Traumatized By Reading About White People http://goo.gl/H064PG

    Replies: @Anon, @Mustela Mendax, @Je Suis Charlie Martel

    “Onionesque” would be a better choice of words. The event in question is reality, which anymore is a lot funnier than the Onion.

  9. This kills me. And it isn’t just lower wages.

    Thanks to all the Latino Scarfaces that have colonized the USA, the states and the feds can confiscate any cash in my pockets when I travel. I can be sent to federal prison for making two or three deposits or withdrawals of ~$5K from my bank in the space of a month or two.

    Thanks to all the Muslims infesting the USA, I have to wait in line for a half hour or more at every airport, take my clothes off, and be fondled by police officers.

    There is a reason they are “escaping oppression”. It is because they and their cultures are so corrupt and violent that only a ruthless and all-seeing police state can keep them under control.

    Only a virtuous people can enjoy the luxury of liberty. America has no Magic Dirt that can make them virtuous.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Big Bill


    I can be sent to federal prison for making two or three deposits or withdrawals of ~$5K from my bank in the space of a month or two.
     
    You really need to cite your sources here

    Replies: @TomSchmidt, @Brutusale

  10. The murder of an off-duty LA County Sheriff this week by three hispanic gang members hoping to rob or car jack him got me thinking again about Unz’s theory that hispanic crime rates are only a little higher than white rates.

    When was the last time a cop was murdered by a bunch of white youths?

  11. OT

    Trump: Minnesota too cold for Syrian refugees

    “A friend of mine lives in Minnesota and he calls me up and he says, ‘Can you imagine, it’s 130 degrees in Syria and now they want to send some of them up to Minnesota where it’s 30 degrees,” the Republican presidential hopeful told thousands of supporters in Knoxville, Tenn.

    “These people are going to be very very unhappy,” he added. “It’s cold, and beautiful, but it’s cold.”

    • Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    I was recently in Minneapolis. People were attractive and really nice.
    Taxi driver was Ethiopian and had nothing but great things to say about the state that had been his home for the last 30 years. Bragged about the Fortune 100 companies built there, the great schools, low crime...
    Well there was one complaint: it wasn't very diverse and there were now more Somalis than Ethiopians, but it seemed like his complaint was half-hearted and he was satisfied with the status-quo of the diversity surrounding Minneapolis and didn't want any more

  12. OT

    Critics of Syrian refugees are ‘scared of widows and orphans,’ Obama says

    “Apparently, they’re scared of widows and orphans coming into the United States of America as part of our tradition of compassion. First, they were worried about the press being too tough on them during debates. Now they’re worried about three-year-old orphans. That doesn’t sound very tough to me,”

    A number of governors and mayors have urged Obama to reverse his decision to allow 10,000 Syrian refugees into the country

  13. OT

    Obama Takes Down GOPers’ Refugee Rhetoric: They’re Afraid Of Orphans (VIDEO)

    When individuals say that we should have a religious test and that only Christians — proven Christians — should be admitted — that’s offensive and contrary to American values.

    “I cannot think of a more potent recruitment tool for ISIL than some of the rhetoric that’s been coming out of here during the course of this debate. ISIL seeks to exploit the idea that there is a war between Islam and the West,” he continued. “And when you start seeing individuals in positions of responsibility, suggesting that Christians are more worthy of protection than Muslims are in a war-torn land, that feeds the ISIL narrative. It’s counterproductive, and it needs to stop.”

  14. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    http://www.thewrap.com/maureen-dowd-hollywood-sexism-sick-society-catholic-church-saudi-arabia/

    No mention that Hollywood is disproportionately dominated by Jews and homosexuals?

    Hollywood actually has more powerful Jewish women than white conservative men.

    And you have to bend over to the homosexual agenda to work in Hollywood.

    Hollywood is more like AIPAC and GAYPAC.

    But Dowd is to chicken to bash Jewish and homosexual power, so she rails against Catholics and Muslims.

    What a coward.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Anon

    "No mention that Hollywood is disproportionately dominated by Jews and homosexuals?"

    Along the lines of that topic, a much-advertised feature film is now coming out about the child molestation scandal in the Catholic church in Boston. The film is called "Spotlight".

    Of course, I'm sure the film won't dwell on the fact that the molesters in question were almost all (if not actually all) homosexual, and that the increasing homosexualization of the clergy was one of the underlying causes of the Churchs' sexual abuse problems. I'm equally certain that Hollywood will not be making any movies about what is alleged to be wide-spread sexual abuse of child-actors in Hollywood by members of the entertainment business themselves.

    Replies: @FLgeezer

    , @unpc downunder
    @Anon

    Hollywood is dominated by money. This is why a mediocre, over-paid actress like Jennifer Lawrence can get away with complaining that she doesn't make enough money. Kate Winslett, who actually is a good actress, was embarrassed when asked if women are underpaid in Hollywood.

    Walt Disney aside, conservative white men probably aren't as good as cosmopolitan Jews at assessing what the world's unwashed masses or urban hipsters like paying to see. They're probably more likely to produce quality box office flops like Master and Commander or Enemy at the Gates. From a business perspective, conservative white men are a pretty small market.

    Replies: @SFG, @ben tillman, @WhatEvvs

  15. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:

    This might be a good time to introduce this, only slight OT (you’ll figure out how & why):

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/report-youth-drug-overdose-deaths-up-in-35-states-over-a-decade/ar-BBnd9EW?ocid=spartanntp

    BTW, I just saw a local news item about a K2 drug bust. Not being up on what kids these days do, I had to research K2. It’s a synthetic marijuana like compound and very dangerous. The guys busted were all Yemeni. Wonder if their drug money goes to funding terrorism. Just a thought.

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    @WhatEvvs

    The drug formulas are tweaked and chemicals formulated in China. The packaging is done offshore. The drugs are sent to the USA and sold through Yemeni/Hindu/Pakistani mom and pop corner stores for $1-$2 a packet as "incense".

    The Feds are eventually going to get involved and the FDA is going to regulate anything "herbal". Are you a real American selling chamomile tea at a farmers market? You will need a federal license. You will need to have your herbs tested. You will need to submit periodic reports to the Feds. Failure to be certified and submit reports will be deemed "dope dealing" under Federal law.

    Thank you, China. Thank you, India. Thank you, Pakistan. Thank you, Islam.

    A hundred years ago this would have been handled locally and much more expeditiously by a stern warning to the shopkeeper followed by a beating (or flammables) if the message did not get through.

    Replies: @(((Owen)))

  16. OT – NYT is feeding you more material. Do you have some sort of arrangement with these people? http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/22/opinion/sunday/who-turned-my-blue-state-red.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

  17. In one of my last comments on TAC, I raised the issue of “wet foot-dry foot” in a response to one of Larison’s blogs:

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/setting-realistic-goals-for-cuba-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-7112408

    But in Googling to find my comment, I see that you raised the issue on unz.com about a week before (Dec. 18, 2014). https://www.unz.com/isteve/wet-foot-dry-foot-cuba-and-immigration/ I didn’t start following you and unz.com until this past July, so I was totally unaware that you had raised the issue first. Otherwise, I would have credited you.

    BTW, as you can tell from my comment, I wasn’t thinking of another Mariel-style boat invasion but rather ordinary Cubans simply flying to Miami and claiming asylum, unless we impose strict visa requirements on Cubans. Anyway, it is long past time that we dropped the “wet foot-dry foot” policy, which extends only to Cubans.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @tbraton

    Hey, I called Pollard actually getting out of prison before anyone else here, and someone else got credit. Don't get too worked up, it's internet comments.

    'Wet foot-dry foot' doesn't make any sense anymore, I agree.

  18. @AndrewR
    Given that US blacks are probably the laziest and least efficient group of workers in the Western hemisphere, it's no suprise that employers would prefer to hire hard[er]-working immigrants over AfAms. Too bad the Cubans weren't hired as riot police to neutralize the insurgencies of Obama's kinfolk.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Big Bill

    “Too bad the Cubans weren’t hired as riot police to neutralize the insurgencies of Obama’s kinfolk.”

    Nestor Camacho-like Latino cops caused most of Miami’s 1980s riots by whomping on black motorists.

  19. @wolfy
    why does decline in wages of blacks bother you

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @epebble, @Anonymo1, @Reg Cæsar

    My fellow citizens, past and future.

  20. @tbraton
    In one of my last comments on TAC, I raised the issue of "wet foot-dry foot" in a response to one of Larison's blogs:

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/setting-realistic-goals-for-cuba-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-7112408

    But in Googling to find my comment, I see that you raised the issue on unz.com about a week before (Dec. 18, 2014). https://www.unz.com/isteve/wet-foot-dry-foot-cuba-and-immigration/ I didn't start following you and unz.com until this past July, so I was totally unaware that you had raised the issue first. Otherwise, I would have credited you.

    BTW, as you can tell from my comment, I wasn't thinking of another Mariel-style boat invasion but rather ordinary Cubans simply flying to Miami and claiming asylum, unless we impose strict visa requirements on Cubans. Anyway, it is long past time that we dropped the "wet foot-dry foot" policy, which extends only to Cubans.

    Replies: @SFG

    Hey, I called Pollard actually getting out of prison before anyone else here, and someone else got credit. Don’t get too worked up, it’s internet comments.

    ‘Wet foot-dry foot’ doesn’t make any sense anymore, I agree.

  21. @Jefferson
    The White looking people in Scarface are not even ethnically Cuban in real life. A bunch of Italians playing Cubans has given Unz readers the impression that Cuba in real life must be as racially White as any Southern European country. When Cuba in real life is not even as White as Argentina and Uruguay, let alone Southern Europe.

    This is how you know Cuba is not a White country, most of the street prostitutes there are either Black or Mulatto. Pics of Cuban street hookers.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3459/3388063195_7d6a5c57cc.jpg
    https://ksyu.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/cuba-prostitues-one.gif
    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/06/article-2650250-1E4711E600000578-105_964x633.jpg
    http://www.complexdwoman.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Untitled-500x275.jpg

    Yet if I were to go to Russia or The Ukraine for example, most of the street hookers there are going to be White.

    Replies: @SFG, @anonymous, @(((Owen)))

    I’m happy to see you’re well-informed on the race of street hookers around the world. 😉

    Seriously, the street hooker index shows you the racial composition of a society’s lower echelons in their large cities. As such, it gives you a very slanted view. A society can have a large minority that winds up as street hookers but isn’t representative of the larger population.

    Sure, if the street hookers are white, the society as a whole is probably white (since at present time no society where whites are the underclass exists)–it’s specific but not sensitive.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @SFG

    "Sure, if the street hookers are white, the society as a whole is probably white (since at present time no society where whites are the underclass exists)–it’s specific but not sensitive."

    No society where Whites are the underclass exists? So the underclass in Serbia and Ukraine for example racially look like Serena Williams and Kevin Durant?

    Seriously, the street hooker index shows you the racial composition of a society’s lower echelons in their large cities. As such, it gives you a very slanted view. A society can have a large minority that winds up as street hookers but isn’t representative of the larger population."

    Someone who would test 100 percent European in a 23AndMe or AncestryByDNA would not be representative of the larger Cuban population because pure Whites are the minority in Cuba.

    , @iSteveFan
    @SFG


    A society can have a large minority that winds up as street hookers but isn’t representative of the larger population.
     
    Yeah, similarly a society can have a minority that winds up as bankers but isn't representative of the larger population.

    Replies: @E. Rekshun

  22. @WhatEvvs
    This might be a good time to introduce this, only slight OT (you'll figure out how & why):

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/report-youth-drug-overdose-deaths-up-in-35-states-over-a-decade/ar-BBnd9EW?ocid=spartanntp

    BTW, I just saw a local news item about a K2 drug bust. Not being up on what kids these days do, I had to research K2. It's a synthetic marijuana like compound and very dangerous. The guys busted were all Yemeni. Wonder if their drug money goes to funding terrorism. Just a thought.

    Replies: @Big Bill

    The drug formulas are tweaked and chemicals formulated in China. The packaging is done offshore. The drugs are sent to the USA and sold through Yemeni/Hindu/Pakistani mom and pop corner stores for $1-$2 a packet as “incense”.

    The Feds are eventually going to get involved and the FDA is going to regulate anything “herbal”. Are you a real American selling chamomile tea at a farmers market? You will need a federal license. You will need to have your herbs tested. You will need to submit periodic reports to the Feds. Failure to be certified and submit reports will be deemed “dope dealing” under Federal law.

    Thank you, China. Thank you, India. Thank you, Pakistan. Thank you, Islam.

    A hundred years ago this would have been handled locally and much more expeditiously by a stern warning to the shopkeeper followed by a beating (or flammables) if the message did not get through.

    • Replies: @(((Owen)))
    @Big Bill


    A hundred years ago this would have been handled locally and much more expeditiously

     

    A hundred years ago, smoking herbs was legal.

    Thank you, China. Thank you, India. Thank you, Pakistan. Thank you, Islam.

     

    Did China, India, and Pakistan occupy our port cities with massive battleships and force us to import armies of incompatible aliens? It all looks like the work of native born American treason to me.
  23. @AndrewR
    Given that US blacks are probably the laziest and least efficient group of workers in the Western hemisphere, it's no suprise that employers would prefer to hire hard[er]-working immigrants over AfAms. Too bad the Cubans weren't hired as riot police to neutralize the insurgencies of Obama's kinfolk.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Big Bill

    Or they could raise wages to an American standard and hire Americans.

  24. The best part of Borjas’s examination of that study is his pointing out that Card had missed a fundamental question and no one thought about asking it until 25 years later. This is a great example to shove in the faces of people who blindly cite studies in an appeal to authority. It really makes one question the validity of the “SCIENCE!” attitude as well.

  25. One anecdote and one statement, both of which I hope are illustrative or helpful.

    (1) A close relative of mine retired from Ohio and moved to Vero Beach, FL. After three years she returned to Ohio. Palmetto bugs, Hispanic supremacy (for want of a better term), and fear of encroaching Haitians with behaviors and attitudes she couldn’t cope with.

    (2) Organized crime–Mafia, Black or Mexican gangbangers, drug cartels, Russian mob–can be an important part of any economic or social analysis. I once spoke with a businessman years ago who explained why he wouldn’t invest squat in my hometown in NE Ohio. “You’ve got organized labor, you’ve got Mafia. I toss in $10 million to build a factory, but I’ll have no idea who actually runs my shop floor. When I have a property dispute or other legal problem, I won’t know who controls the judges. I have the same problems in Mexico. They’re cheaper.” Not word for word, but pretty damned close.

    • Replies: @E. Rekshun
    @JackOH

    A close relative of mine retired from Ohio and moved to Vero Beach, FL. After three years she returned to Ohio. Palmetto bugs, Hispanic supremacy (for want of a better term), and fear of encroaching Haitians with behaviors and attitudes she couldn’t cope with.

    Aside from the Palmetto bugs (they're not a problem with regular applications of insecticide), I think your relative is exaggerating her complaints about the prevalence of Hispanics and Haitians in Vero, FL. Vero Beach is certainly much nicer (and costlier) than Vero, but the large numbers of Hispanics and Haitians are 100 miles south (but, yes, encroaching closer every year).

    Replies: @JackOH, @WhatEvvs, @Brutusale

  26. @Big Bill
    This kills me. And it isn't just lower wages.

    Thanks to all the Latino Scarfaces that have colonized the USA, the states and the feds can confiscate any cash in my pockets when I travel. I can be sent to federal prison for making two or three deposits or withdrawals of ~$5K from my bank in the space of a month or two.

    Thanks to all the Muslims infesting the USA, I have to wait in line for a half hour or more at every airport, take my clothes off, and be fondled by police officers.

    There is a reason they are "escaping oppression". It is because they and their cultures are so corrupt and violent that only a ruthless and all-seeing police state can keep them under control.

    Only a virtuous people can enjoy the luxury of liberty. America has no Magic Dirt that can make them virtuous.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    I can be sent to federal prison for making two or three deposits or withdrawals of ~$5K from my bank in the space of a month or two.

    You really need to cite your sources here

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    @AndrewR

    Try reading this for example.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @Brutusale
    @AndrewR

    http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/government-orders-bank-tellers-to-alert-police-about-your-cash-withdrawals-so-they-can-seize-the-funds-investigate_03232015

  27. OT: Jonathan Pollard got a job right out of prison. He’ll be working at a NY investment firm.
    http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/1.687436

  28. Here’s a report with a nice infographic on what cities are best and worst for those without a bachelor’s degree. Shockingly, there aren’t many “opportunity occupations” along our southern border:

    https://www.clevelandfed.org/en/newsroom-and-events/publications/special-reports/sr-20150909-identifying-opportunity-occupations.aspx

    There’s a clear bias in labor economics towards focusing on college+ markets already, and this combined with (majority immigrant) economists’ weirdness on immigration make papers like Borjas’ rare. He’s highly respected (and an immigrant!) so I’m sure his work will inspire more studies. It’s a slow field for publishing, though, unfortunately.

  29. @SFG
    @Jefferson

    I'm happy to see you're well-informed on the race of street hookers around the world. ;)

    Seriously, the street hooker index shows you the racial composition of a society's lower echelons in their large cities. As such, it gives you a very slanted view. A society can have a large minority that winds up as street hookers but isn't representative of the larger population.

    Sure, if the street hookers are white, the society as a whole is probably white (since at present time no society where whites are the underclass exists)--it's specific but not sensitive.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @iSteveFan

    “Sure, if the street hookers are white, the society as a whole is probably white (since at present time no society where whites are the underclass exists)–it’s specific but not sensitive.”

    No society where Whites are the underclass exists? So the underclass in Serbia and Ukraine for example racially look like Serena Williams and Kevin Durant?

    Seriously, the street hooker index shows you the racial composition of a society’s lower echelons in their large cities. As such, it gives you a very slanted view. A society can have a large minority that winds up as street hookers but isn’t representative of the larger population.”

    Someone who would test 100 percent European in a 23AndMe or AncestryByDNA would not be representative of the larger Cuban population because pure Whites are the minority in Cuba.

  30. http://www.ottawasun.com/2015/11/20/free-ottawa-yoga-class-scrapped-over-cultural-issues#.VlCY4Ov3bXU.

    I have a better idear.

    How about ending all non-white immigration in the name of putting a stop to the terrible imperialist crime of Demographic Appropriation.

    How dare the West appropriate all those native peoples of non-white nations?

    Re-appropriate them to their own nations.

    Stop stealing peoples and their cultures.

  31. @Luke Lea
    Latest Onion headline: Columbia Student Claims To Be Traumatized By Reading About White People http://goo.gl/H064PG

    Replies: @Anon, @Mustela Mendax, @Je Suis Charlie Martel

    “The mental anguish of studying the Western canon.”
    It must be like being a Washington generals fan and always being forced to watch Harlem Globetrotters highlights. Sure, your team is in the video, but they’re always the losers.

    • Replies: @Thomas O. Meehan
    @Je Suis Charlie Martel

    "JE SUIS CHARLIE MARTEL"

    Bravo for an excellent, pithy moniker. I intend to have this imprinted on a sweatshirt or two. Just needs the image of a war hammer to go with it. Thanks.

    Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel

  32. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT


    Trump: Minnesota too cold for Syrian refugees
    ...
    "A friend of mine lives in Minnesota and he calls me up and he says, 'Can you imagine, it's 130 degrees in Syria and now they want to send some of them up to Minnesota where it's 30 degrees," the Republican presidential hopeful told thousands of supporters in Knoxville, Tenn.

    "These people are going to be very very unhappy," he added. "It's cold, and beautiful, but it's cold."

     

    Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel

    I was recently in Minneapolis. People were attractive and really nice.
    Taxi driver was Ethiopian and had nothing but great things to say about the state that had been his home for the last 30 years. Bragged about the Fortune 100 companies built there, the great schools, low crime…
    Well there was one complaint: it wasn’t very diverse and there were now more Somalis than Ethiopians, but it seemed like his complaint was half-hearted and he was satisfied with the status-quo of the diversity surrounding Minneapolis and didn’t want any more

  33. @Anon
    http://www.thewrap.com/maureen-dowd-hollywood-sexism-sick-society-catholic-church-saudi-arabia/

    No mention that Hollywood is disproportionately dominated by Jews and homosexuals?

    Hollywood actually has more powerful Jewish women than white conservative men.

    And you have to bend over to the homosexual agenda to work in Hollywood.

    Hollywood is more like AIPAC and GAYPAC.

    But Dowd is to chicken to bash Jewish and homosexual power, so she rails against Catholics and Muslims.

    What a coward.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @unpc downunder

    “No mention that Hollywood is disproportionately dominated by Jews and homosexuals?”

    Along the lines of that topic, a much-advertised feature film is now coming out about the child molestation scandal in the Catholic church in Boston. The film is called “Spotlight”.

    Of course, I’m sure the film won’t dwell on the fact that the molesters in question were almost all (if not actually all) homosexual, and that the increasing homosexualization of the clergy was one of the underlying causes of the Churchs’ sexual abuse problems. I’m equally certain that Hollywood will not be making any movies about what is alleged to be wide-spread sexual abuse of child-actors in Hollywood by members of the entertainment business themselves.

    • Replies: @FLgeezer
    @Mr. Anon

    "..about the child molestation scandal in the Catholic Church in Boston"

    But of course, 'it's the season' after all. Christmas is close at hand when this sort of trash comes forth from Hollywood. More typically it is a tidal wave of holocaust films. But Christian bashing
    Is a sure sign that the birthday of the Prince of Peace is imminent. Hollywood is soooooo predictable.

    Replies: @epebble, @Mr. Anon

  34. @wolfy
    why does decline in wages of blacks bother you

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @epebble, @Anonymo1, @Reg Cæsar

    Because decline in wages leads to increased crime. It is nothing exclusive to blacks only. When the wages declined after 2008, many whites suddenly became “disabled”. We have a very low labor participation rate now. Many rationalized this fraud as an economic decision due to lower wages.

  35. OT not really

    Latin American whites love metal:

    Check out those joyous white faces getting in touch with their people’s music.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @San Franciscan non-monk

    They are a bit paler than median, I guess. Parts of Latin America are pretty pale--ever been to Uruguay?

    Didn't Steve document metal was huge in Scandinavia?

    , @(((Owen)))
    @San Franciscan non-monk


    "Latin American whites love metal"
     
    One of my favorite tourist districts to visit over weekends around Mexico City now has a very popular nightclub that plays loud Skrillex-style dirge until 4am. I can't send people to stay at the hotel on that block anymore at all.

    Guess who's going? Young white people with tattoos and piercings.

    Is there anything white people can't ruin?
  36. Did you realize that there was a pitch for an Oliver Stone-helmed “Planet of the Apes” sequel starring Arnold? It sounds like one of those “thin line between stupid and clever” scenarios though:
    http://www.cinelinx.com/movie-stuff/item/7904-bad-ideas-films-we-re-glad-were-never-got-made.html

  37. (off topic)

    Steve,
    keep that Twitter account in your bookmarks:

    https://twitter.com/LibrarianofHate

    He regularly posts links to politically incorrect academic papers or statistics.

  38. Off topic but Sailer-bate. Alleged gang rape of sophomore girl but five to six football players in prestigious Austin high school:

    Anyone know what happened at Westlake High?Hearing a gross rumor I hope isn't true.
    byu/afterumagellan inAustin

  39. @SFG
    @Jefferson

    I'm happy to see you're well-informed on the race of street hookers around the world. ;)

    Seriously, the street hooker index shows you the racial composition of a society's lower echelons in their large cities. As such, it gives you a very slanted view. A society can have a large minority that winds up as street hookers but isn't representative of the larger population.

    Sure, if the street hookers are white, the society as a whole is probably white (since at present time no society where whites are the underclass exists)--it's specific but not sensitive.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @iSteveFan

    A society can have a large minority that winds up as street hookers but isn’t representative of the larger population.

    Yeah, similarly a society can have a minority that winds up as bankers but isn’t representative of the larger population.

    • Agree: E. Rekshun
    • Replies: @E. Rekshun
    @iSteveFan

    Yeah, similarly a society can have a minority that winds up as bankers but isn’t representative of the larger population.

    Or completely dominate the 100-meter sprint.

  40. @Robert Hume
    No Asians, or mestizos on this list either. Guess only whites should go to college.
    Plato
    Aristotle
    Palladio - classical architecture
    Wright - modern architecture
    Leeuwenhoek - microscope
    Copernicus
    Galileo - structure of solar system
    Kepler - planetary orbits
    Newton - calculus, mechanics
    James Watt - Steam Engine
    Stephenson - Railroad
    Mendel - genetics
    Lyell - geology
    Linnaeus - biology systematics
    Darwin - evolution
    Hobbes - theory of government
    Locke - theory of government
    Washington - stepping down
    Adam Smith - economics
    Pasteur - germ theory of disease
    Faraday - experimental EM
    Maxwell - theoretical EM
    Shakespeare
    (pre Bach)
    Bach
    Beethoven
    Brahms
    Verdi
    Mozart
    Leonardo da Vinci
    Michelangelo
    Rembrandt
    Van Gogh
    Picasso
    Pollock
    Warhol
    Wilbur&Orville Wright Human Flight
    Whittle - Jet Plane
    Goddard - Rockets
    J Willard Gibbs - Physical Chem.
    Haber & Bosch nitrogen fertilizer
    Werner Heisenberg QM
    Erwin Schrodinger QM
    Dirac QM
    Albert Einstein - relativity
    Hubble - size of universe
    Edison - electric light, recording
    Fessenden - radio
    Turing - computer theory
    John Atanasoff- first digital computer
    Tom Flowers- first programmable digital computer
    Wegener - continental drift
    Fermi - nuclear fission
    Pauling -quantum chemistry
    Crick - DNA
    Borlaug - Green Revolution
    Shockley - transistor
    Backus (Fortran)
    Thompson - UNIX
    Ritchie - C

    Replies: @carol, @Anon

    Oh dear, someone slipped “Warhol” onto your list.

  41. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jefferson
    The White looking people in Scarface are not even ethnically Cuban in real life. A bunch of Italians playing Cubans has given Unz readers the impression that Cuba in real life must be as racially White as any Southern European country. When Cuba in real life is not even as White as Argentina and Uruguay, let alone Southern Europe.

    This is how you know Cuba is not a White country, most of the street prostitutes there are either Black or Mulatto. Pics of Cuban street hookers.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3459/3388063195_7d6a5c57cc.jpg
    https://ksyu.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/cuba-prostitues-one.gif
    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/06/article-2650250-1E4711E600000578-105_964x633.jpg
    http://www.complexdwoman.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Untitled-500x275.jpg

    Yet if I were to go to Russia or The Ukraine for example, most of the street hookers there are going to be White.

    Replies: @SFG, @anonymous, @(((Owen)))

    This is how you know Cuba is not a White country, most of the street prostitutes there are either Black or Mulatto. Pics of Cuban street hookers.

    Might be more of a function of who is on the bottom of the totem pole in any society. The street types in majority white cities are usually disproportionally black and mixed types. A question could be asked about who are the customers, are they also black/mulatto?

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @anonymous

    "Might be more of a function of who is on the bottom of the totem pole in any society. The street types in majority white cities are usually disproportionally black and mixed types. A question could be asked about who are the customers, are they also black/mulatto?"

    How come the majority of prostitutes in Europe are not Black/Mulatto? If Cuba was a White country, the racial demographics of Cuban prostitutes should resemble the racial demographics of European prostitutes.

    The prostitution scene in Cuba is a lot Blacker than the prostitution scene in Amsterdam and Kiev.

    , @Triumph104
    @anonymous

    White tourists pay for prostitutes. Only Americans were banned from traveling to Cuba. Plenty of tourists from Canada and Europe.

    Cubans only make about $30 a month. As of 2005 most blacks were unemployed. That's why so many black/mulatto women go into prostitution. Blacks don't get remittances from the states. They don't own any of the mansions to operate businesses out of. Few blacks work in the tourism industry where they can make money in tips. Most of what blacks do to earn money is considered illegal so the prisons are 85 percent black. There are great economic disparities between the races.

    http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/cuba/racial-demographics.pdf

  42. @Robert Hume
    No Asians, or mestizos on this list either. Guess only whites should go to college.
    Plato
    Aristotle
    Palladio - classical architecture
    Wright - modern architecture
    Leeuwenhoek - microscope
    Copernicus
    Galileo - structure of solar system
    Kepler - planetary orbits
    Newton - calculus, mechanics
    James Watt - Steam Engine
    Stephenson - Railroad
    Mendel - genetics
    Lyell - geology
    Linnaeus - biology systematics
    Darwin - evolution
    Hobbes - theory of government
    Locke - theory of government
    Washington - stepping down
    Adam Smith - economics
    Pasteur - germ theory of disease
    Faraday - experimental EM
    Maxwell - theoretical EM
    Shakespeare
    (pre Bach)
    Bach
    Beethoven
    Brahms
    Verdi
    Mozart
    Leonardo da Vinci
    Michelangelo
    Rembrandt
    Van Gogh
    Picasso
    Pollock
    Warhol
    Wilbur&Orville Wright Human Flight
    Whittle - Jet Plane
    Goddard - Rockets
    J Willard Gibbs - Physical Chem.
    Haber & Bosch nitrogen fertilizer
    Werner Heisenberg QM
    Erwin Schrodinger QM
    Dirac QM
    Albert Einstein - relativity
    Hubble - size of universe
    Edison - electric light, recording
    Fessenden - radio
    Turing - computer theory
    John Atanasoff- first digital computer
    Tom Flowers- first programmable digital computer
    Wegener - continental drift
    Fermi - nuclear fission
    Pauling -quantum chemistry
    Crick - DNA
    Borlaug - Green Revolution
    Shockley - transistor
    Backus (Fortran)
    Thompson - UNIX
    Ritchie - C

    Replies: @carol, @Anon

    Warhol? Warhol!!???? Warhol??????!!!!!!

  43. @Anon
    http://www.thewrap.com/maureen-dowd-hollywood-sexism-sick-society-catholic-church-saudi-arabia/

    No mention that Hollywood is disproportionately dominated by Jews and homosexuals?

    Hollywood actually has more powerful Jewish women than white conservative men.

    And you have to bend over to the homosexual agenda to work in Hollywood.

    Hollywood is more like AIPAC and GAYPAC.

    But Dowd is to chicken to bash Jewish and homosexual power, so she rails against Catholics and Muslims.

    What a coward.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @unpc downunder

    Hollywood is dominated by money. This is why a mediocre, over-paid actress like Jennifer Lawrence can get away with complaining that she doesn’t make enough money. Kate Winslett, who actually is a good actress, was embarrassed when asked if women are underpaid in Hollywood.

    Walt Disney aside, conservative white men probably aren’t as good as cosmopolitan Jews at assessing what the world’s unwashed masses or urban hipsters like paying to see. They’re probably more likely to produce quality box office flops like Master and Commander or Enemy at the Gates. From a business perspective, conservative white men are a pretty small market.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @unpc downunder

    There IS some truth to that--New York or Los Angeles, whatever their other drawbacks, are probably better for getting the world's pulse than Provo--but nepotism and a family connections are a HUGE thing in that industry. So it's not just meritocracy at work.

    Also be aware that stupid movies are a lot more salable across cultures--Master and Commander isn't that interesting if you don't have an Anglo cultural background, and Annie Hall isn't that funny if you're not from New York--but fart jokes are funny everywhere.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar

    , @ben tillman
    @unpc downunder


    Hollywood is dominated by money. This is why a mediocre, over-paid actress like Jennifer Lawrence can get away with complaining that she doesn’t make enough money. Kate Winslett, who actually is a good actress, was embarrassed when asked if women are underpaid in Hollywood.
     
    Are you sure she wasn't just acting embarrassed?
    , @WhatEvvs
    @unpc downunder


    This is why a mediocre, over-paid actress like Jennifer Lawrence can get away with complaining that she doesn’t make enough money.
     
    Jesus, I thought I was the only one.

    To give her credit, she has a kind of Susan Hayward raw uncensored quality. But that act is already wearing thin. Box office for the latest Hunger Games thing is way off. It'll make money, because people are stupid, but less than it should have.
  44. ” Miami blacks were notoriously angry about the changes in their city after Mariel, rioting three times in the 1980s.”

    So are you saying angry blacks were actually behaving rationally?

  45. @anonymous
    @Jefferson


    This is how you know Cuba is not a White country, most of the street prostitutes there are either Black or Mulatto. Pics of Cuban street hookers.
     
    Might be more of a function of who is on the bottom of the totem pole in any society. The street types in majority white cities are usually disproportionally black and mixed types. A question could be asked about who are the customers, are they also black/mulatto?

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Triumph104

    “Might be more of a function of who is on the bottom of the totem pole in any society. The street types in majority white cities are usually disproportionally black and mixed types. A question could be asked about who are the customers, are they also black/mulatto?”

    How come the majority of prostitutes in Europe are not Black/Mulatto? If Cuba was a White country, the racial demographics of Cuban prostitutes should resemble the racial demographics of European prostitutes.

    The prostitution scene in Cuba is a lot Blacker than the prostitution scene in Amsterdam and Kiev.

  46. iSteveFan says:

    OT but something that has been discussed here in the past. Commenters have pointed out that states like Texas routinely classify as ‘white’ many of their hispanic criminals, and thus believe that white crime is overstated.

    But now oddly activists have pushed for a new law that makes Texas troopers ask everyone they stop their race/ethnicity because they believe Texas cops are stopping minorities for traffic violations disproportionately.

    Troopers in Texas will now ask drivers for their race when they pull them over following calls to improve the accuracy of the state’s traffic data, officials say.

    The change comes after revelations that troopers were regularly misidentifying minority drivers — mostly Hispanic — as white when they ticketed them. It is meant to ensure the troopers are not engaging in racial profiling.

    From the story, it appears this just applies to traffic stops and to Texas Troopers. I don’t know if local cops have to abide by this, or if the Texas most wanted list will be updated to reflect the true demographic traits of the suspects.

    But it is funny that an issue that the Right has been complaining about for years has now sort of landed into the laps of their opponents albeit for a different reason. The Right think crime stats are skewed to make white crime look worse and hispanic crime better than it is. The Left thinks incorrectly classifying hispanics as whites hides innate police racial profiling.

  47. @wolfy
    why does decline in wages of blacks bother you

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @epebble, @Anonymo1, @Reg Cæsar

    In the McDuffie riots in Miami, 8 Whites were killed by blacks.

  48. @San Franciscan non-monk
    OT not really

    Latin American whites love metal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgk3u44W2i4 Check out those joyous white faces getting in touch with their people's music.

    Replies: @SFG, @(((Owen)))

    They are a bit paler than median, I guess. Parts of Latin America are pretty pale–ever been to Uruguay?

    Didn’t Steve document metal was huge in Scandinavia?

  49. @unpc downunder
    @Anon

    Hollywood is dominated by money. This is why a mediocre, over-paid actress like Jennifer Lawrence can get away with complaining that she doesn't make enough money. Kate Winslett, who actually is a good actress, was embarrassed when asked if women are underpaid in Hollywood.

    Walt Disney aside, conservative white men probably aren't as good as cosmopolitan Jews at assessing what the world's unwashed masses or urban hipsters like paying to see. They're probably more likely to produce quality box office flops like Master and Commander or Enemy at the Gates. From a business perspective, conservative white men are a pretty small market.

    Replies: @SFG, @ben tillman, @WhatEvvs

    There IS some truth to that–New York or Los Angeles, whatever their other drawbacks, are probably better for getting the world’s pulse than Provo–but nepotism and a family connections are a HUGE thing in that industry. So it’s not just meritocracy at work.

    Also be aware that stupid movies are a lot more salable across cultures–Master and Commander isn’t that interesting if you don’t have an Anglo cultural background, and Annie Hall isn’t that funny if you’re not from New York–but fart jokes are funny everywhere.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @SFG

    "Also be aware that stupid movies are a lot more salable across cultures–Master and Commander isn’t that interesting if you don’t have an Anglo cultural background, and Annie Hall isn’t that funny if you’re not from New York–but fart jokes are funny everywhere."

    Actually, lots of white people saw and liked Annie Hall, including people who were not New Yorkers or upper west-side jewish nebbishes, like Woody Allen pretended to be. Whites tend to be a more curious audience for movies than the minorities that Hollywood now appeals to. In the era spanning the 50s through the 70s, there used to be lots of movies that were not especially paraochial: historical epics about exotic foreign peoples and european thrillers with largely non American casts, for example. "The Day of the Jackal", directed by the Austrian-American director Fred Zinneman (and I believe American financed), had foreign locations, a foreign plot, and an entirely foreign cast, and yet it did pretty well with American audiences. The decline of the white audience is going to be the decline of any kind of novelty or invention in movies.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @SFG


    Annie Hall isn’t that funny if you’re not from New York–
     
    Didn't it play well in Chippewa Falls? The Leinie's crowd would have liked the rabbi scene.
  50. @AndrewR
    @Big Bill


    I can be sent to federal prison for making two or three deposits or withdrawals of ~$5K from my bank in the space of a month or two.
     
    You really need to cite your sources here

    Replies: @TomSchmidt, @Brutusale

    Try reading this for example.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @TomSchmidt

    You forgot the link

  51. It was a good time in Miami to be a lawyer, banker, real estate developer, or all-purpose businessman with connections

    I lived in Miami from the late ’80s to the late ’90s. It was also a good time to get a job in Miami as a police officer, corrections officer, prosecutor, or defense attorney, or as various support to one of these functions. The folks hired back then are now retiring on decent government pensions.

  52. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    http://www.amren.com/news/2015/11/in-france-are-secular-iq-losses-biologically-caused/

    “In France, are secular IQ losses biologically caused? A comment on Dutton and Lynn (2015)”, Michael A. Woodley and Curtis S. Dunkel, Intelligence, Volume 53, November–December 2015, Pages 81–85:

    “…report secular declines in Fullscale IQ evaluated using WAIS of four points a decade in France between the years 1999 and 2008–9…

    …the trend may have a partially biological cause, stemming from dysgenic fertility and, to a lesser extent, replacement migration.

    …Using the method of correlated vectors and error disattenuation, the secular IQ declines are shown to be associated with a high-magnitude Jensen effect…

    …These findings indicate that the French secular IQ loss likely has a primarily biological cause. …”

    Presumably “secular” here means large, slow, persistent trends.

  53. @JackOH
    One anecdote and one statement, both of which I hope are illustrative or helpful.

    (1) A close relative of mine retired from Ohio and moved to Vero Beach, FL. After three years she returned to Ohio. Palmetto bugs, Hispanic supremacy (for want of a better term), and fear of encroaching Haitians with behaviors and attitudes she couldn't cope with.

    (2) Organized crime--Mafia, Black or Mexican gangbangers, drug cartels, Russian mob--can be an important part of any economic or social analysis. I once spoke with a businessman years ago who explained why he wouldn't invest squat in my hometown in NE Ohio. "You've got organized labor, you've got Mafia. I toss in $10 million to build a factory, but I'll have no idea who actually runs my shop floor. When I have a property dispute or other legal problem, I won't know who controls the judges. I have the same problems in Mexico. They're cheaper." Not word for word, but pretty damned close.

    Replies: @E. Rekshun

    A close relative of mine retired from Ohio and moved to Vero Beach, FL. After three years she returned to Ohio. Palmetto bugs, Hispanic supremacy (for want of a better term), and fear of encroaching Haitians with behaviors and attitudes she couldn’t cope with.

    Aside from the Palmetto bugs (they’re not a problem with regular applications of insecticide), I think your relative is exaggerating her complaints about the prevalence of Hispanics and Haitians in Vero, FL. Vero Beach is certainly much nicer (and costlier) than Vero, but the large numbers of Hispanics and Haitians are 100 miles south (but, yes, encroaching closer every year).

    • Replies: @JackOH
    @E. Rekshun

    Thanks for the fair criticism. I've never been to Florida, so I can't confirm her observations and judgments.

    What I think is worth noting about my relative's thoughts upon returning from Florida is that they have no political weight. Nobody in our leadership caste really includes an elderly and modestly comfortable white woman with unpleasant experiences in Florida as part of their political calculus.

    Off-topic. What I'm seeing on "Unz Review" is a whole lot of intelligent posts and comments that are having a hard time making it to the public arena. I've done a bit of small-time politicking, and my free advice is that folks who believe they have a thought about something need to get on the public stump. They'll get sharper and smarter, because they'll find out how hard it is to actually get an idea accepted by the public.

    , @WhatEvvs
    @E. Rekshun

    Sandy Koufax lives part of the year in Vero Beach.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Brutusale
    @E. Rekshun

    Sorry, E, but as another Bostonian who visits Florida quite often to visit family, the sheer scale of arthropods there is frightening the first few times you experience it. I'll never forget the first time I drove through a "love bug" swarm!

  54. @iSteveFan
    @SFG


    A society can have a large minority that winds up as street hookers but isn’t representative of the larger population.
     
    Yeah, similarly a society can have a minority that winds up as bankers but isn't representative of the larger population.

    Replies: @E. Rekshun

    Yeah, similarly a society can have a minority that winds up as bankers but isn’t representative of the larger population.

    Or completely dominate the 100-meter sprint.

  55. OT:

    A French magazine tells of a study that shows that culture forces men to be macho which then generates excess testosterone.

    We are how we do. Ergo men are men because of culture…

    Conclusions? «Les pressions culturelles poussant les hommes à exercer une autorité et les femmes à éviter de le faire pourraient expliquer, en conjonction avec des facteurs héréditaires, pourquoi les niveaux de testostérone tendent à être plus élevés chez les hommes que chez les femmes», écrivent les auteurs.

    * «Effects of gendered behavior on testosterone in women and men», par Sari M. van Anders, Jeffrey Steiger et Katherine L. Goldey, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America (PNAS), vol. 112 no. 45

  56. @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    @Luke Lea

    "The mental anguish of studying the Western canon."
    It must be like being a Washington generals fan and always being forced to watch Harlem Globetrotters highlights. Sure, your team is in the video, but they're always the losers.

    Replies: @Thomas O. Meehan

    “JE SUIS CHARLIE MARTEL”

    Bravo for an excellent, pithy moniker. I intend to have this imprinted on a sweatshirt or two. Just needs the image of a war hammer to go with it. Thanks.

    • Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    @Thomas O. Meehan

    Bien sur mon frere!

  57. @TomSchmidt
    @AndrewR

    Try reading this for example.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    You forgot the link

  58. @E. Rekshun
    @JackOH

    A close relative of mine retired from Ohio and moved to Vero Beach, FL. After three years she returned to Ohio. Palmetto bugs, Hispanic supremacy (for want of a better term), and fear of encroaching Haitians with behaviors and attitudes she couldn’t cope with.

    Aside from the Palmetto bugs (they're not a problem with regular applications of insecticide), I think your relative is exaggerating her complaints about the prevalence of Hispanics and Haitians in Vero, FL. Vero Beach is certainly much nicer (and costlier) than Vero, but the large numbers of Hispanics and Haitians are 100 miles south (but, yes, encroaching closer every year).

    Replies: @JackOH, @WhatEvvs, @Brutusale

    Thanks for the fair criticism. I’ve never been to Florida, so I can’t confirm her observations and judgments.

    What I think is worth noting about my relative’s thoughts upon returning from Florida is that they have no political weight. Nobody in our leadership caste really includes an elderly and modestly comfortable white woman with unpleasant experiences in Florida as part of their political calculus.

    Off-topic. What I’m seeing on “Unz Review” is a whole lot of intelligent posts and comments that are having a hard time making it to the public arena. I’ve done a bit of small-time politicking, and my free advice is that folks who believe they have a thought about something need to get on the public stump. They’ll get sharper and smarter, because they’ll find out how hard it is to actually get an idea accepted by the public.

    • Agree: E. Rekshun
  59. @Big Bill
    @WhatEvvs

    The drug formulas are tweaked and chemicals formulated in China. The packaging is done offshore. The drugs are sent to the USA and sold through Yemeni/Hindu/Pakistani mom and pop corner stores for $1-$2 a packet as "incense".

    The Feds are eventually going to get involved and the FDA is going to regulate anything "herbal". Are you a real American selling chamomile tea at a farmers market? You will need a federal license. You will need to have your herbs tested. You will need to submit periodic reports to the Feds. Failure to be certified and submit reports will be deemed "dope dealing" under Federal law.

    Thank you, China. Thank you, India. Thank you, Pakistan. Thank you, Islam.

    A hundred years ago this would have been handled locally and much more expeditiously by a stern warning to the shopkeeper followed by a beating (or flammables) if the message did not get through.

    Replies: @(((Owen)))

    A hundred years ago this would have been handled locally and much more expeditiously

    A hundred years ago, smoking herbs was legal.

    Thank you, China. Thank you, India. Thank you, Pakistan. Thank you, Islam.

    Did China, India, and Pakistan occupy our port cities with massive battleships and force us to import armies of incompatible aliens? It all looks like the work of native born American treason to me.

  60. @San Franciscan non-monk
    OT not really

    Latin American whites love metal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgk3u44W2i4 Check out those joyous white faces getting in touch with their people's music.

    Replies: @SFG, @(((Owen)))

    “Latin American whites love metal”

    One of my favorite tourist districts to visit over weekends around Mexico City now has a very popular nightclub that plays loud Skrillex-style dirge until 4am. I can’t send people to stay at the hotel on that block anymore at all.

    Guess who’s going? Young white people with tattoos and piercings.

    Is there anything white people can’t ruin?

  61. @Jefferson
    The White looking people in Scarface are not even ethnically Cuban in real life. A bunch of Italians playing Cubans has given Unz readers the impression that Cuba in real life must be as racially White as any Southern European country. When Cuba in real life is not even as White as Argentina and Uruguay, let alone Southern Europe.

    This is how you know Cuba is not a White country, most of the street prostitutes there are either Black or Mulatto. Pics of Cuban street hookers.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3459/3388063195_7d6a5c57cc.jpg
    https://ksyu.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/cuba-prostitues-one.gif
    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/06/article-2650250-1E4711E600000578-105_964x633.jpg
    http://www.complexdwoman.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Untitled-500x275.jpg

    Yet if I were to go to Russia or The Ukraine for example, most of the street hookers there are going to be White.

    Replies: @SFG, @anonymous, @(((Owen)))

    This is how you know Cuba is not a White country, most of the street prostitutes there are either Black or Mulatto. Pics of Cuban street hookers.

    This is how you know Japan isn’t an Asian country. The highest demand expensive call girls are mostly blonde.

    This is how you know the Netherlands isn’t a white country. The red-light district prostitutes are mostly southeast Asian.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @(((Owen)))

    "This is how you know Japan isn’t an Asian country. The highest demand expensive call girls are mostly blonde.

    This is how you know the Netherlands isn’t a white country. The red-light district prostitutes are mostly southeast Asian."

    This is how you know Cuba is not a White country, the average Cuban has 20 percent Sub Saharan African admixture.

    Do you know of any European ethnic groups that average 20 percent Sub Saharan African admixture?

    Replies: @(((Owen)))

  62. @anonymous
    @Jefferson


    This is how you know Cuba is not a White country, most of the street prostitutes there are either Black or Mulatto. Pics of Cuban street hookers.
     
    Might be more of a function of who is on the bottom of the totem pole in any society. The street types in majority white cities are usually disproportionally black and mixed types. A question could be asked about who are the customers, are they also black/mulatto?

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Triumph104

    White tourists pay for prostitutes. Only Americans were banned from traveling to Cuba. Plenty of tourists from Canada and Europe.

    Cubans only make about $30 a month. As of 2005 most blacks were unemployed. That’s why so many black/mulatto women go into prostitution. Blacks don’t get remittances from the states. They don’t own any of the mansions to operate businesses out of. Few blacks work in the tourism industry where they can make money in tips. Most of what blacks do to earn money is considered illegal so the prisons are 85 percent black. There are great economic disparities between the races.

    http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/cuba/racial-demographics.pdf

  63. @Mr. Anon
    @Anon

    "No mention that Hollywood is disproportionately dominated by Jews and homosexuals?"

    Along the lines of that topic, a much-advertised feature film is now coming out about the child molestation scandal in the Catholic church in Boston. The film is called "Spotlight".

    Of course, I'm sure the film won't dwell on the fact that the molesters in question were almost all (if not actually all) homosexual, and that the increasing homosexualization of the clergy was one of the underlying causes of the Churchs' sexual abuse problems. I'm equally certain that Hollywood will not be making any movies about what is alleged to be wide-spread sexual abuse of child-actors in Hollywood by members of the entertainment business themselves.

    Replies: @FLgeezer

    “..about the child molestation scandal in the Catholic Church in Boston”

    But of course, ‘it’s the season’ after all. Christmas is close at hand when this sort of trash comes forth from Hollywood. More typically it is a tidal wave of holocaust films. But Christian bashing
    Is a sure sign that the birthday of the Prince of Peace is imminent. Hollywood is soooooo predictable.

    • Replies: @epebble
    @FLgeezer

    I think it is not trash. It has received rave reviews from the Catholic Church.

    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotlight_(film)

    Reactions from the Catholic Church

    Spotlight has received a positive reception from many Catholic Church leaders. Cardinal Sean O'Malley of the Archdiocese of Boston said Spotlight illustrates how the newspaper’s reports prompted the church "to deal with what was shameful and hidden."

    Commentary on Vatican Radio, official radio service of the Vatican, gave strong praise for the film, describing it as "honest" and "compelling." In the commentator's view, the movie shows that the Globe reporters exercised "their most pure vocation" as journalists.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    , @Mr. Anon
    @FLgeezer

    "But Christian bashing is a sure sign that the birthday of the Prince of Peace is imminent. Hollywood is soooooo predictable."

    The AMC networks' most popular TV show is the Zombie-gorefest "The Walking Dead", which airs on Sunday night. Why Sunday night, one might wonder.

  64. @SFG
    @unpc downunder

    There IS some truth to that--New York or Los Angeles, whatever their other drawbacks, are probably better for getting the world's pulse than Provo--but nepotism and a family connections are a HUGE thing in that industry. So it's not just meritocracy at work.

    Also be aware that stupid movies are a lot more salable across cultures--Master and Commander isn't that interesting if you don't have an Anglo cultural background, and Annie Hall isn't that funny if you're not from New York--but fart jokes are funny everywhere.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar

    “Also be aware that stupid movies are a lot more salable across cultures–Master and Commander isn’t that interesting if you don’t have an Anglo cultural background, and Annie Hall isn’t that funny if you’re not from New York–but fart jokes are funny everywhere.”

    Actually, lots of white people saw and liked Annie Hall, including people who were not New Yorkers or upper west-side jewish nebbishes, like Woody Allen pretended to be. Whites tend to be a more curious audience for movies than the minorities that Hollywood now appeals to. In the era spanning the 50s through the 70s, there used to be lots of movies that were not especially paraochial: historical epics about exotic foreign peoples and european thrillers with largely non American casts, for example. “The Day of the Jackal”, directed by the Austrian-American director Fred Zinneman (and I believe American financed), had foreign locations, a foreign plot, and an entirely foreign cast, and yet it did pretty well with American audiences. The decline of the white audience is going to be the decline of any kind of novelty or invention in movies.

  65. @(((Owen)))
    @Jefferson


    This is how you know Cuba is not a White country, most of the street prostitutes there are either Black or Mulatto. Pics of Cuban street hookers.

     

    This is how you know Japan isn't an Asian country. The highest demand expensive call girls are mostly blonde.

    This is how you know the Netherlands isn't a white country. The red-light district prostitutes are mostly southeast Asian.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “This is how you know Japan isn’t an Asian country. The highest demand expensive call girls are mostly blonde.

    This is how you know the Netherlands isn’t a white country. The red-light district prostitutes are mostly southeast Asian.”

    This is how you know Cuba is not a White country, the average Cuban has 20 percent Sub Saharan African admixture.

    Do you know of any European ethnic groups that average 20 percent Sub Saharan African admixture?

    • Replies: @(((Owen)))
    @Jefferson


    Do you know of any European ethnic groups that average 20 percent Sub Saharan African admixture?

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcZCGMCDzbU

  66. If the average American had as much Sub Saharan DNA as the average Cuban, I wonder how many Steve Sailer readers would classify The United States as a White country?

  67. @FLgeezer
    @Mr. Anon

    "..about the child molestation scandal in the Catholic Church in Boston"

    But of course, 'it's the season' after all. Christmas is close at hand when this sort of trash comes forth from Hollywood. More typically it is a tidal wave of holocaust films. But Christian bashing
    Is a sure sign that the birthday of the Prince of Peace is imminent. Hollywood is soooooo predictable.

    Replies: @epebble, @Mr. Anon

    I think it is not trash. It has received rave reviews from the Catholic Church.

    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotlight_(film)

    Reactions from the Catholic Church

    Spotlight has received a positive reception from many Catholic Church leaders. Cardinal Sean O’Malley of the Archdiocese of Boston said Spotlight illustrates how the newspaper’s reports prompted the church “to deal with what was shameful and hidden.”

    Commentary on Vatican Radio, official radio service of the Vatican, gave strong praise for the film, describing it as “honest” and “compelling.” In the commentator’s view, the movie shows that the Globe reporters exercised “their most pure vocation” as journalists.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @epebble

    Of course O'Malley said that. What's he, or the Vatican, going to say, that it's all a lie?

    His predecessor, Bernard Law, should be in jail, but was brought over to the Vatican as a reward for the musical chairs he played in moving molester priests around the archdiocese.

  68. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @E. Rekshun
    @JackOH

    A close relative of mine retired from Ohio and moved to Vero Beach, FL. After three years she returned to Ohio. Palmetto bugs, Hispanic supremacy (for want of a better term), and fear of encroaching Haitians with behaviors and attitudes she couldn’t cope with.

    Aside from the Palmetto bugs (they're not a problem with regular applications of insecticide), I think your relative is exaggerating her complaints about the prevalence of Hispanics and Haitians in Vero, FL. Vero Beach is certainly much nicer (and costlier) than Vero, but the large numbers of Hispanics and Haitians are 100 miles south (but, yes, encroaching closer every year).

    Replies: @JackOH, @WhatEvvs, @Brutusale

    Sandy Koufax lives part of the year in Vero Beach.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @WhatEvvs



    Sandy Koufax lives part of the year in Vero Beach.

     

    Doesn't he need only half a season more to qualify for the Hall of Fame? Suit him up.

    Replies: @WhatEvvs

  69. @unpc downunder
    @Anon

    Hollywood is dominated by money. This is why a mediocre, over-paid actress like Jennifer Lawrence can get away with complaining that she doesn't make enough money. Kate Winslett, who actually is a good actress, was embarrassed when asked if women are underpaid in Hollywood.

    Walt Disney aside, conservative white men probably aren't as good as cosmopolitan Jews at assessing what the world's unwashed masses or urban hipsters like paying to see. They're probably more likely to produce quality box office flops like Master and Commander or Enemy at the Gates. From a business perspective, conservative white men are a pretty small market.

    Replies: @SFG, @ben tillman, @WhatEvvs

    Hollywood is dominated by money. This is why a mediocre, over-paid actress like Jennifer Lawrence can get away with complaining that she doesn’t make enough money. Kate Winslett, who actually is a good actress, was embarrassed when asked if women are underpaid in Hollywood.

    Are you sure she wasn’t just acting embarrassed?

  70. @FLgeezer
    @Mr. Anon

    "..about the child molestation scandal in the Catholic Church in Boston"

    But of course, 'it's the season' after all. Christmas is close at hand when this sort of trash comes forth from Hollywood. More typically it is a tidal wave of holocaust films. But Christian bashing
    Is a sure sign that the birthday of the Prince of Peace is imminent. Hollywood is soooooo predictable.

    Replies: @epebble, @Mr. Anon

    “But Christian bashing is a sure sign that the birthday of the Prince of Peace is imminent. Hollywood is soooooo predictable.”

    The AMC networks’ most popular TV show is the Zombie-gorefest “The Walking Dead”, which airs on Sunday night. Why Sunday night, one might wonder.

  71. @wolfy
    why does decline in wages of blacks bother you

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @epebble, @Anonymo1, @Reg Cæsar

    why does decline in wages of blacks bother you

    Why wouldn’t it bother you?

    Let’s work this out:

    1) You don’t capitalize and punctuate because you are a busy executive who doesn’t have time. In this case, the EBT, Section 8 funds, and everything else is coming out of your income taxes. You should care.

    2) You don’t capitalize and punctuate because you were poorly educated, and thus have trouble finding a decently paying job. Those blacks are competing with you on your level. You should care.

    3) You live in Vermont, Idaho, some similar state with few blacks, or abroad. Should you care? Maybe not, but you should shut up about it.*

    4) You’re an Aspergery pseudolibertarian who finds capitalization and punctuation oppressive, but has no problem with the government subsidizing your cheap labor nor with the eminent domain used to expand the highway that shortens your commute.

    *note to Steve, Ron, or other screeners: I agree that it is very rude to tell another commenter to shut up, and have never done it before in years of commenting here, from the beginning. But go back and look at his question, and tell me he doesn’t have it coming good and hard.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Reg Cæsar

    Excellent reply, Reg Caesar. And, above, Sailer added to your list:

    5) These are your fellow citizens, past and future.

    The problems of black America cannot be solved, and certainly not by whites. Yet it's not hard to visualize economic and social policies that would improve the situation of blacks, largely by incentivizing constructive behavior and penalizing antisocial behavior. Many of these policies would also better the lots of poor Americans, unlucky Americans, shrinking-middle-class Americans, and left-side-of-the-bell-curve Americans.

    Instead, our society's elites double down on policies that benefit them and theirs.

    Brazil is an inspiring model, if you are in the 1% and indifferent to asabiyah. Perhaps everyone else should be a bit more bothered by declining black wages.

    Replies: @WhatEvvs

  72. @WhatEvvs
    @E. Rekshun

    Sandy Koufax lives part of the year in Vero Beach.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Sandy Koufax lives part of the year in Vero Beach.

    Doesn’t he need only half a season more to qualify for the Hall of Fame? Suit him up.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    @Reg Cæsar

    Can't tell if u r joking - Koufax made it to the HoF in his 1st year of eligibility, unanimously.

    http://baseballhall.org/hof/koufax-sandy

    I believe his pal Drysdale had to wait a bit longer. Look it up!

    Replies: @WhatEvvs

  73. @SFG
    @unpc downunder

    There IS some truth to that--New York or Los Angeles, whatever their other drawbacks, are probably better for getting the world's pulse than Provo--but nepotism and a family connections are a HUGE thing in that industry. So it's not just meritocracy at work.

    Also be aware that stupid movies are a lot more salable across cultures--Master and Commander isn't that interesting if you don't have an Anglo cultural background, and Annie Hall isn't that funny if you're not from New York--but fart jokes are funny everywhere.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar

    Annie Hall isn’t that funny if you’re not from New York–

    Didn’t it play well in Chippewa Falls? The Leinie’s crowd would have liked the rabbi scene.

  74. @Reg Cæsar
    @wolfy


    why does decline in wages of blacks bother you

     

    Why wouldn't it bother you?

    Let's work this out:

    1) You don't capitalize and punctuate because you are a busy executive who doesn't have time. In this case, the EBT, Section 8 funds, and everything else is coming out of your income taxes. You should care.

    2) You don't capitalize and punctuate because you were poorly educated, and thus have trouble finding a decently paying job. Those blacks are competing with you on your level. You should care.

    3) You live in Vermont, Idaho, some similar state with few blacks, or abroad. Should you care? Maybe not, but you should shut up about it.*

    4) You're an Aspergery pseudolibertarian who finds capitalization and punctuation oppressive, but has no problem with the government subsidizing your cheap labor nor with the eminent domain used to expand the highway that shortens your commute.

    *note to Steve, Ron, or other screeners: I agree that it is very rude to tell another commenter to shut up, and have never done it before in years of commenting here, from the beginning. But go back and look at his question, and tell me he doesn't have it coming good and hard.

    Replies: @ic1000

    Excellent reply, Reg Caesar. And, above, Sailer added to your list:

    5) These are your fellow citizens, past and future.

    The problems of black America cannot be solved, and certainly not by whites. Yet it’s not hard to visualize economic and social policies that would improve the situation of blacks, largely by incentivizing constructive behavior and penalizing antisocial behavior. Many of these policies would also better the lots of poor Americans, unlucky Americans, shrinking-middle-class Americans, and left-side-of-the-bell-curve Americans.

    Instead, our society’s elites double down on policies that benefit them and theirs.

    Brazil is an inspiring model, if you are in the 1% and indifferent to asabiyah. Perhaps everyone else should be a bit more bothered by declining black wages.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    @ic1000

    Add to that, and I mean this in the least schmaltzy way, we're all connected. What happens to them, eventually happens to the least of us. Drug ODs up in 35 states among the youth - and from what I read, the whitest states are the worst hit.

  75. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    @WhatEvvs



    Sandy Koufax lives part of the year in Vero Beach.

     

    Doesn't he need only half a season more to qualify for the Hall of Fame? Suit him up.

    Replies: @WhatEvvs

    Can’t tell if u r joking – Koufax made it to the HoF in his 1st year of eligibility, unanimously.

    http://baseballhall.org/hof/koufax-sandy

    I believe his pal Drysdale had to wait a bit longer. Look it up!

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    @WhatEvvs

    PS, for some reason, I can't edit anymore, so I have to add this as another comment.

    I wonder what would have happened to Koufax if they had had the surgical techniques then, that they do now. It's pretty awesome what surgeons can do with tendons and ligaments.

  76. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @WhatEvvs
    @Reg Cæsar

    Can't tell if u r joking - Koufax made it to the HoF in his 1st year of eligibility, unanimously.

    http://baseballhall.org/hof/koufax-sandy

    I believe his pal Drysdale had to wait a bit longer. Look it up!

    Replies: @WhatEvvs

    PS, for some reason, I can’t edit anymore, so I have to add this as another comment.

    I wonder what would have happened to Koufax if they had had the surgical techniques then, that they do now. It’s pretty awesome what surgeons can do with tendons and ligaments.

  77. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @ic1000
    @Reg Cæsar

    Excellent reply, Reg Caesar. And, above, Sailer added to your list:

    5) These are your fellow citizens, past and future.

    The problems of black America cannot be solved, and certainly not by whites. Yet it's not hard to visualize economic and social policies that would improve the situation of blacks, largely by incentivizing constructive behavior and penalizing antisocial behavior. Many of these policies would also better the lots of poor Americans, unlucky Americans, shrinking-middle-class Americans, and left-side-of-the-bell-curve Americans.

    Instead, our society's elites double down on policies that benefit them and theirs.

    Brazil is an inspiring model, if you are in the 1% and indifferent to asabiyah. Perhaps everyone else should be a bit more bothered by declining black wages.

    Replies: @WhatEvvs

    Add to that, and I mean this in the least schmaltzy way, we’re all connected. What happens to them, eventually happens to the least of us. Drug ODs up in 35 states among the youth – and from what I read, the whitest states are the worst hit.

  78. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @unpc downunder
    @Anon

    Hollywood is dominated by money. This is why a mediocre, over-paid actress like Jennifer Lawrence can get away with complaining that she doesn't make enough money. Kate Winslett, who actually is a good actress, was embarrassed when asked if women are underpaid in Hollywood.

    Walt Disney aside, conservative white men probably aren't as good as cosmopolitan Jews at assessing what the world's unwashed masses or urban hipsters like paying to see. They're probably more likely to produce quality box office flops like Master and Commander or Enemy at the Gates. From a business perspective, conservative white men are a pretty small market.

    Replies: @SFG, @ben tillman, @WhatEvvs

    This is why a mediocre, over-paid actress like Jennifer Lawrence can get away with complaining that she doesn’t make enough money.

    Jesus, I thought I was the only one.

    To give her credit, she has a kind of Susan Hayward raw uncensored quality. But that act is already wearing thin. Box office for the latest Hunger Games thing is way off. It’ll make money, because people are stupid, but less than it should have.

  79. @Jefferson
    @(((Owen)))

    "This is how you know Japan isn’t an Asian country. The highest demand expensive call girls are mostly blonde.

    This is how you know the Netherlands isn’t a white country. The red-light district prostitutes are mostly southeast Asian."

    This is how you know Cuba is not a White country, the average Cuban has 20 percent Sub Saharan African admixture.

    Do you know of any European ethnic groups that average 20 percent Sub Saharan African admixture?

    Replies: @(((Owen)))

    Do you know of any European ethnic groups that average 20 percent Sub Saharan African admixture?

  80. @Thomas O. Meehan
    @Je Suis Charlie Martel

    "JE SUIS CHARLIE MARTEL"

    Bravo for an excellent, pithy moniker. I intend to have this imprinted on a sweatshirt or two. Just needs the image of a war hammer to go with it. Thanks.

    Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel

    Bien sur mon frere!

  81. @AndrewR
    @Big Bill


    I can be sent to federal prison for making two or three deposits or withdrawals of ~$5K from my bank in the space of a month or two.
     
    You really need to cite your sources here

    Replies: @TomSchmidt, @Brutusale

  82. @epebble
    @FLgeezer

    I think it is not trash. It has received rave reviews from the Catholic Church.

    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotlight_(film)

    Reactions from the Catholic Church

    Spotlight has received a positive reception from many Catholic Church leaders. Cardinal Sean O'Malley of the Archdiocese of Boston said Spotlight illustrates how the newspaper’s reports prompted the church "to deal with what was shameful and hidden."

    Commentary on Vatican Radio, official radio service of the Vatican, gave strong praise for the film, describing it as "honest" and "compelling." In the commentator's view, the movie shows that the Globe reporters exercised "their most pure vocation" as journalists.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Of course O’Malley said that. What’s he, or the Vatican, going to say, that it’s all a lie?

    His predecessor, Bernard Law, should be in jail, but was brought over to the Vatican as a reward for the musical chairs he played in moving molester priests around the archdiocese.

  83. @E. Rekshun
    @JackOH

    A close relative of mine retired from Ohio and moved to Vero Beach, FL. After three years she returned to Ohio. Palmetto bugs, Hispanic supremacy (for want of a better term), and fear of encroaching Haitians with behaviors and attitudes she couldn’t cope with.

    Aside from the Palmetto bugs (they're not a problem with regular applications of insecticide), I think your relative is exaggerating her complaints about the prevalence of Hispanics and Haitians in Vero, FL. Vero Beach is certainly much nicer (and costlier) than Vero, but the large numbers of Hispanics and Haitians are 100 miles south (but, yes, encroaching closer every year).

    Replies: @JackOH, @WhatEvvs, @Brutusale

    Sorry, E, but as another Bostonian who visits Florida quite often to visit family, the sheer scale of arthropods there is frightening the first few times you experience it. I’ll never forget the first time I drove through a “love bug” swarm!

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