With a second Mariel Boatlift likely over the next few years, it’s worth reassessing the first one (1980). One of the most popular papers in economics is David Card’s claim that the Law of Supply and Demand doesn’t apply to immigration because wages didn’t fall in Miami in 1980-1984 compared to four other American cities.
As I’ve been pointing out for years, though, ceteris wasn’t paribus in these five cities in 1980-1984 because Miami was enjoying a world famous Cocaine Boom, as depicted in well-known movies like Scarface (1983) and TV shows like Miami Vice (1984).
But economists aren’t supposed to learn things from anywhere outside of economics journals.
Now, however, Harvard labor economist George Borjas has written a study pointing out that wages in Miami among high school dropouts got hammered by the Mariel Boatlift.
The Wage Impact of the Marielitos: A Reappraisal
George J. Borjas
ABSTRACT
This paper brings a new perspective to the analysis of the Mariel supply shock, revisiting the question and the data armed with the accumulated insights from the vast literature on the economic impact of immigration. A crucial lesson from this literature is that any credible attempt to measure the wage impact of immigration must carefully match the skills of the immigrants with those of the pre-existing workers. The Marielitos were disproportionately low-skill; at least 60 percent were high school dropouts. A reappraisal of the Mariel evidence, specifically examining the evolution of wages in the low-skill group most likely to be affected, quickly overturns the finding that Mariel did not affect Miami’s wage structure. The absolute wage of high school dropouts in Miami dropped dramatically, as did the wage of high school dropouts relative to that of either high school graduates or college graduates. The drop in the relative wage of the least educated Miamians was substantial (10 to 30 percent), implying an elasticity of wages with respect to the number of workers between -0.5 and -1.5. The analysis also documents the sensitivity of the estimated wage impact to the choice of a placebo. The measured impact is much smaller when the placebo consists of cities where pre-Mariel employment growth was weak relative to Miami.
This shouldn’t be too surprising since Miami high school dropouts in 1980 were heavily African-American, and Miami blacks were notoriously angry about the changes in their city after Mariel, rioting three times in the 1980s.
But who cares about poor African Americans? It was a good time in Miami to be a lawyer, banker, real estate developer, or all-purpose businessman with connections, such as Jeb Bush, who moved to Miami in late 1980.

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The White looking people in Scarface are not even ethnically Cuban in real life. A bunch of Italians playing Cubans has given Unz readers the impression that Cuba in real life must be as racially White as any Southern European country. When Cuba in real life is not even as White as Argentina and Uruguay, let alone Southern Europe.
This is how you know Cuba is not a White country, most of the street prostitutes there are either Black or Mulatto. Pics of Cuban street hookers.




Yet if I were to go to Russia or The Ukraine for example, most of the street hookers there are going to be White.
This is how you know the Netherlands isn't a white country. The red-light district prostitutes are mostly southeast Asian.Replies: @Jefferson
Latest Onion headline: Columbia Student Claims To Be Traumatized By Reading About White People http://goo.gl/H064PG
Hep me!!!! I am traumatized by too much black rap and Jewish humor.
Hep!!!!
It must be like being a Washington generals fan and always being forced to watch Harlem Globetrotters highlights. Sure, your team is in the video, but they're always the losers.Replies: @Thomas O. Meehan
why does decline in wages of blacks bother you
Let's work this out:
1) You don't capitalize and punctuate because you are a busy executive who doesn't have time. In this case, the EBT, Section 8 funds, and everything else is coming out of your income taxes. You should care.
2) You don't capitalize and punctuate because you were poorly educated, and thus have trouble finding a decently paying job. Those blacks are competing with you on your level. You should care.
3) You live in Vermont, Idaho, some similar state with few blacks, or abroad. Should you care? Maybe not, but you should shut up about it.*
4) You're an Aspergery pseudolibertarian who finds capitalization and punctuation oppressive, but has no problem with the government subsidizing your cheap labor nor with the eminent domain used to expand the highway that shortens your commute.
*note to Steve, Ron, or other screeners: I agree that it is very rude to tell another commenter to shut up, and have never done it before in years of commenting here, from the beginning. But go back and look at his question, and tell me he doesn't have it coming good and hard.Replies: @ic1000
http://www.amren.com/news/2015/11/in-france-are-secular-iq-losses-biologically-caused/
Given that US blacks are probably the laziest and least efficient group of workers in the Western hemisphere, it’s no suprise that employers would prefer to hire hard[er]-working immigrants over AfAms. Too bad the Cubans weren’t hired as riot police to neutralize the insurgencies of Obama’s kinfolk.
“Latest Onion headline: Columbia Student Claims To Be Traumatized By Reading About White People”
Hep me!!!! I am traumatized by too much black rap and Jewish humor.
Hep!!!!
This whole business of waves of immigrants entering Europe and crossing our southwestern border is one big Mariel boatlift, isn’t it? A dirty trick played on us by the immigrants’ home countries? So much is happening on a bigger scale, at the present time – it seems pointless to dwell on minute details of the earlier prototypical event.
No Asians, or mestizos on this list either. Guess only whites should go to college.
Plato
Aristotle
Palladio – classical architecture
Wright – modern architecture
Leeuwenhoek – microscope
Copernicus
Galileo – structure of solar system
Kepler – planetary orbits
Newton – calculus, mechanics
James Watt – Steam Engine
Stephenson – Railroad
Mendel – genetics
Lyell – geology
Linnaeus – biology systematics
Darwin – evolution
Hobbes – theory of government
Locke – theory of government
Washington – stepping down
Adam Smith – economics
Pasteur – germ theory of disease
Faraday – experimental EM
Maxwell – theoretical EM
Shakespeare
(pre Bach)
Bach
Beethoven
Brahms
Verdi
Mozart
Leonardo da Vinci
Michelangelo
Rembrandt
Van Gogh
Picasso
Pollock
Warhol
Wilbur&Orville Wright Human Flight
Whittle – Jet Plane
Goddard – Rockets
J Willard Gibbs – Physical Chem.
Haber & Bosch nitrogen fertilizer
Werner Heisenberg QM
Erwin Schrodinger QM
Dirac QM
Albert Einstein – relativity
Hubble – size of universe
Edison – electric light, recording
Fessenden – radio
Turing – computer theory
John Atanasoff- first digital computer
Tom Flowers- first programmable digital computer
Wegener – continental drift
Fermi – nuclear fission
Pauling -quantum chemistry
Crick – DNA
Borlaug – Green Revolution
Shockley – transistor
Backus (Fortran)
Thompson – UNIX
Ritchie – C
“Onionesque” would be a better choice of words. The event in question is reality, which anymore is a lot funnier than the Onion.
This kills me. And it isn’t just lower wages.
Thanks to all the Latino Scarfaces that have colonized the USA, the states and the feds can confiscate any cash in my pockets when I travel. I can be sent to federal prison for making two or three deposits or withdrawals of ~$5K from my bank in the space of a month or two.
Thanks to all the Muslims infesting the USA, I have to wait in line for a half hour or more at every airport, take my clothes off, and be fondled by police officers.
There is a reason they are “escaping oppression”. It is because they and their cultures are so corrupt and violent that only a ruthless and all-seeing police state can keep them under control.
Only a virtuous people can enjoy the luxury of liberty. America has no Magic Dirt that can make them virtuous.
O/T: http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/inside-the-asian-men-black-women-online-dating-scene-456
The murder of an off-duty LA County Sheriff this week by three hispanic gang members hoping to rob or car jack him got me thinking again about Unz’s theory that hispanic crime rates are only a little higher than white rates.
When was the last time a cop was murdered by a bunch of white youths?
OT
Taxi driver was Ethiopian and had nothing but great things to say about the state that had been his home for the last 30 years. Bragged about the Fortune 100 companies built there, the great schools, low crime...
Well there was one complaint: it wasn't very diverse and there were now more Somalis than Ethiopians, but it seemed like his complaint was half-hearted and he was satisfied with the status-quo of the diversity surrounding Minneapolis and didn't want any more
OT
OT
http://www.thewrap.com/maureen-dowd-hollywood-sexism-sick-society-catholic-church-saudi-arabia/
No mention that Hollywood is disproportionately dominated by Jews and homosexuals?
Hollywood actually has more powerful Jewish women than white conservative men.
And you have to bend over to the homosexual agenda to work in Hollywood.
Hollywood is more like AIPAC and GAYPAC.
But Dowd is to chicken to bash Jewish and homosexual power, so she rails against Catholics and Muslims.
What a coward.
Along the lines of that topic, a much-advertised feature film is now coming out about the child molestation scandal in the Catholic church in Boston. The film is called "Spotlight".
Of course, I'm sure the film won't dwell on the fact that the molesters in question were almost all (if not actually all) homosexual, and that the increasing homosexualization of the clergy was one of the underlying causes of the Churchs' sexual abuse problems. I'm equally certain that Hollywood will not be making any movies about what is alleged to be wide-spread sexual abuse of child-actors in Hollywood by members of the entertainment business themselves.Replies: @FLgeezer
Walt Disney aside, conservative white men probably aren't as good as cosmopolitan Jews at assessing what the world's unwashed masses or urban hipsters like paying to see. They're probably more likely to produce quality box office flops like Master and Commander or Enemy at the Gates. From a business perspective, conservative white men are a pretty small market.Replies: @SFG, @ben tillman, @WhatEvvs
This might be a good time to introduce this, only slight OT (you’ll figure out how & why):
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/report-youth-drug-overdose-deaths-up-in-35-states-over-a-decade/ar-BBnd9EW?ocid=spartanntp
BTW, I just saw a local news item about a K2 drug bust. Not being up on what kids these days do, I had to research K2. It’s a synthetic marijuana like compound and very dangerous. The guys busted were all Yemeni. Wonder if their drug money goes to funding terrorism. Just a thought.
The Feds are eventually going to get involved and the FDA is going to regulate anything "herbal". Are you a real American selling chamomile tea at a farmers market? You will need a federal license. You will need to have your herbs tested. You will need to submit periodic reports to the Feds. Failure to be certified and submit reports will be deemed "dope dealing" under Federal law.
Thank you, China. Thank you, India. Thank you, Pakistan. Thank you, Islam.
A hundred years ago this would have been handled locally and much more expeditiously by a stern warning to the shopkeeper followed by a beating (or flammables) if the message did not get through.Replies: @(((Owen)))
OT – NYT is feeding you more material. Do you have some sort of arrangement with these people? http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/22/opinion/sunday/who-turned-my-blue-state-red.html?ref=opinion&_r=0
In one of my last comments on TAC, I raised the issue of “wet foot-dry foot” in a response to one of Larison’s blogs:
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/setting-realistic-goals-for-cuba-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-7112408
But in Googling to find my comment, I see that you raised the issue on unz.com about a week before (Dec. 18, 2014). https://www.unz.com/isteve/wet-foot-dry-foot-cuba-and-immigration/ I didn’t start following you and unz.com until this past July, so I was totally unaware that you had raised the issue first. Otherwise, I would have credited you.
BTW, as you can tell from my comment, I wasn’t thinking of another Mariel-style boat invasion but rather ordinary Cubans simply flying to Miami and claiming asylum, unless we impose strict visa requirements on Cubans. Anyway, it is long past time that we dropped the “wet foot-dry foot” policy, which extends only to Cubans.
'Wet foot-dry foot' doesn't make any sense anymore, I agree.
“Too bad the Cubans weren’t hired as riot police to neutralize the insurgencies of Obama’s kinfolk.”
Nestor Camacho-like Latino cops caused most of Miami’s 1980s riots by whomping on black motorists.
My fellow citizens, past and future.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/setting-realistic-goals-for-cuba-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-7112408
But in Googling to find my comment, I see that you raised the issue on unz.com about a week before (Dec. 18, 2014). https://www.unz.com/isteve/wet-foot-dry-foot-cuba-and-immigration/ I didn't start following you and unz.com until this past July, so I was totally unaware that you had raised the issue first. Otherwise, I would have credited you.
BTW, as you can tell from my comment, I wasn't thinking of another Mariel-style boat invasion but rather ordinary Cubans simply flying to Miami and claiming asylum, unless we impose strict visa requirements on Cubans. Anyway, it is long past time that we dropped the "wet foot-dry foot" policy, which extends only to Cubans.Replies: @SFG
Hey, I called Pollard actually getting out of prison before anyone else here, and someone else got credit. Don’t get too worked up, it’s internet comments.
‘Wet foot-dry foot’ doesn’t make any sense anymore, I agree.
This is how you know Cuba is not a White country, most of the street prostitutes there are either Black or Mulatto. Pics of Cuban street hookers.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3459/3388063195_7d6a5c57cc.jpg
https://ksyu.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/cuba-prostitues-one.gif
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/06/article-2650250-1E4711E600000578-105_964x633.jpg
http://www.complexdwoman.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Untitled-500x275.jpg
Yet if I were to go to Russia or The Ukraine for example, most of the street hookers there are going to be White.Replies: @SFG, @anonymous, @(((Owen)))
I’m happy to see you’re well-informed on the race of street hookers around the world. 😉
Seriously, the street hooker index shows you the racial composition of a society’s lower echelons in their large cities. As such, it gives you a very slanted view. A society can have a large minority that winds up as street hookers but isn’t representative of the larger population.
Sure, if the street hookers are white, the society as a whole is probably white (since at present time no society where whites are the underclass exists)–it’s specific but not sensitive.
No society where Whites are the underclass exists? So the underclass in Serbia and Ukraine for example racially look like Serena Williams and Kevin Durant?
Seriously, the street hooker index shows you the racial composition of a society’s lower echelons in their large cities. As such, it gives you a very slanted view. A society can have a large minority that winds up as street hookers but isn’t representative of the larger population."
Someone who would test 100 percent European in a 23AndMe or AncestryByDNA would not be representative of the larger Cuban population because pure Whites are the minority in Cuba.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/report-youth-drug-overdose-deaths-up-in-35-states-over-a-decade/ar-BBnd9EW?ocid=spartanntp
BTW, I just saw a local news item about a K2 drug bust. Not being up on what kids these days do, I had to research K2. It's a synthetic marijuana like compound and very dangerous. The guys busted were all Yemeni. Wonder if their drug money goes to funding terrorism. Just a thought.Replies: @Big Bill
The drug formulas are tweaked and chemicals formulated in China. The packaging is done offshore. The drugs are sent to the USA and sold through Yemeni/Hindu/Pakistani mom and pop corner stores for $1-$2 a packet as “incense”.
The Feds are eventually going to get involved and the FDA is going to regulate anything “herbal”. Are you a real American selling chamomile tea at a farmers market? You will need a federal license. You will need to have your herbs tested. You will need to submit periodic reports to the Feds. Failure to be certified and submit reports will be deemed “dope dealing” under Federal law.
Thank you, China. Thank you, India. Thank you, Pakistan. Thank you, Islam.
A hundred years ago this would have been handled locally and much more expeditiously by a stern warning to the shopkeeper followed by a beating (or flammables) if the message did not get through.
Or they could raise wages to an American standard and hire Americans.
The best part of Borjas’s examination of that study is his pointing out that Card had missed a fundamental question and no one thought about asking it until 25 years later. This is a great example to shove in the faces of people who blindly cite studies in an appeal to authority. It really makes one question the validity of the “SCIENCE!” attitude as well.
One anecdote and one statement, both of which I hope are illustrative or helpful.
(1) A close relative of mine retired from Ohio and moved to Vero Beach, FL. After three years she returned to Ohio. Palmetto bugs, Hispanic supremacy (for want of a better term), and fear of encroaching Haitians with behaviors and attitudes she couldn’t cope with.
(2) Organized crime–Mafia, Black or Mexican gangbangers, drug cartels, Russian mob–can be an important part of any economic or social analysis. I once spoke with a businessman years ago who explained why he wouldn’t invest squat in my hometown in NE Ohio. “You’ve got organized labor, you’ve got Mafia. I toss in $10 million to build a factory, but I’ll have no idea who actually runs my shop floor. When I have a property dispute or other legal problem, I won’t know who controls the judges. I have the same problems in Mexico. They’re cheaper.” Not word for word, but pretty damned close.
Thanks to all the Latino Scarfaces that have colonized the USA, the states and the feds can confiscate any cash in my pockets when I travel. I can be sent to federal prison for making two or three deposits or withdrawals of ~$5K from my bank in the space of a month or two.
Thanks to all the Muslims infesting the USA, I have to wait in line for a half hour or more at every airport, take my clothes off, and be fondled by police officers.
There is a reason they are "escaping oppression". It is because they and their cultures are so corrupt and violent that only a ruthless and all-seeing police state can keep them under control.
Only a virtuous people can enjoy the luxury of liberty. America has no Magic Dirt that can make them virtuous.Replies: @AndrewR
You really need to cite your sources here
OT: Jonathan Pollard got a job right out of prison. He’ll be working at a NY investment firm.
http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/1.687436
Here’s a report with a nice infographic on what cities are best and worst for those without a bachelor’s degree. Shockingly, there aren’t many “opportunity occupations” along our southern border:
https://www.clevelandfed.org/en/newsroom-and-events/publications/special-reports/sr-20150909-identifying-opportunity-occupations.aspx
There’s a clear bias in labor economics towards focusing on college+ markets already, and this combined with (majority immigrant) economists’ weirdness on immigration make papers like Borjas’ rare. He’s highly respected (and an immigrant!) so I’m sure his work will inspire more studies. It’s a slow field for publishing, though, unfortunately.
“Sure, if the street hookers are white, the society as a whole is probably white (since at present time no society where whites are the underclass exists)–it’s specific but not sensitive.”
No society where Whites are the underclass exists? So the underclass in Serbia and Ukraine for example racially look like Serena Williams and Kevin Durant?
Seriously, the street hooker index shows you the racial composition of a society’s lower echelons in their large cities. As such, it gives you a very slanted view. A society can have a large minority that winds up as street hookers but isn’t representative of the larger population.”
Someone who would test 100 percent European in a 23AndMe or AncestryByDNA would not be representative of the larger Cuban population because pure Whites are the minority in Cuba.
http://www.ottawasun.com/2015/11/20/free-ottawa-yoga-class-scrapped-over-cultural-issues#.VlCY4Ov3bXU.
I have a better idear.
How about ending all non-white immigration in the name of putting a stop to the terrible imperialist crime of Demographic Appropriation.
How dare the West appropriate all those native peoples of non-white nations?
Re-appropriate them to their own nations.
Stop stealing peoples and their cultures.
“The mental anguish of studying the Western canon.”
It must be like being a Washington generals fan and always being forced to watch Harlem Globetrotters highlights. Sure, your team is in the video, but they’re always the losers.
Bravo for an excellent, pithy moniker. I intend to have this imprinted on a sweatshirt or two. Just needs the image of a war hammer to go with it. Thanks.Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel
I was recently in Minneapolis. People were attractive and really nice.
Taxi driver was Ethiopian and had nothing but great things to say about the state that had been his home for the last 30 years. Bragged about the Fortune 100 companies built there, the great schools, low crime…
Well there was one complaint: it wasn’t very diverse and there were now more Somalis than Ethiopians, but it seemed like his complaint was half-hearted and he was satisfied with the status-quo of the diversity surrounding Minneapolis and didn’t want any more
No mention that Hollywood is disproportionately dominated by Jews and homosexuals?
Hollywood actually has more powerful Jewish women than white conservative men.
And you have to bend over to the homosexual agenda to work in Hollywood.
Hollywood is more like AIPAC and GAYPAC.
But Dowd is to chicken to bash Jewish and homosexual power, so she rails against Catholics and Muslims.
What a coward.Replies: @Mr. Anon, @unpc downunder
“No mention that Hollywood is disproportionately dominated by Jews and homosexuals?”
Along the lines of that topic, a much-advertised feature film is now coming out about the child molestation scandal in the Catholic church in Boston. The film is called “Spotlight”.
Of course, I’m sure the film won’t dwell on the fact that the molesters in question were almost all (if not actually all) homosexual, and that the increasing homosexualization of the clergy was one of the underlying causes of the Churchs’ sexual abuse problems. I’m equally certain that Hollywood will not be making any movies about what is alleged to be wide-spread sexual abuse of child-actors in Hollywood by members of the entertainment business themselves.
But of course, 'it's the season' after all. Christmas is close at hand when this sort of trash comes forth from Hollywood. More typically it is a tidal wave of holocaust films. But Christian bashing
Is a sure sign that the birthday of the Prince of Peace is imminent. Hollywood is soooooo predictable.Replies: @epebble, @Mr. Anon
Because decline in wages leads to increased crime. It is nothing exclusive to blacks only. When the wages declined after 2008, many whites suddenly became “disabled”. We have a very low labor participation rate now. Many rationalized this fraud as an economic decision due to lower wages.
OT not really
Latin American whites love metal:
Check out those joyous white faces getting in touch with their people’s music.
Guess who's going? Young white people with tattoos and piercings.
Is there anything white people can't ruin?
Did you realize that there was a pitch for an Oliver Stone-helmed “Planet of the Apes” sequel starring Arnold? It sounds like one of those “thin line between stupid and clever” scenarios though:
http://www.cinelinx.com/movie-stuff/item/7904-bad-ideas-films-we-re-glad-were-never-got-made.html
(off topic)
Steve,
keep that Twitter account in your bookmarks:
https://twitter.com/LibrarianofHate
He regularly posts links to politically incorrect academic papers or statistics.
Off topic but Sailer-bate. Alleged gang rape of sophomore girl but five to six football players in prestigious Austin high school:
Yeah, similarly a society can have a minority that winds up as bankers but isn’t representative of the larger population.
Plato
Aristotle
Palladio - classical architecture
Wright - modern architecture
Leeuwenhoek - microscope
Copernicus
Galileo - structure of solar system
Kepler - planetary orbits
Newton - calculus, mechanics
James Watt - Steam Engine
Stephenson - Railroad
Mendel - genetics
Lyell - geology
Linnaeus - biology systematics
Darwin - evolution
Hobbes - theory of government
Locke - theory of government
Washington - stepping down
Adam Smith - economics
Pasteur - germ theory of disease
Faraday - experimental EM
Maxwell - theoretical EM
Shakespeare
(pre Bach)
Bach
Beethoven
Brahms
Verdi
Mozart
Leonardo da Vinci
Michelangelo
Rembrandt
Van Gogh
Picasso
Pollock
Warhol
Wilbur&Orville Wright Human Flight
Whittle - Jet Plane
Goddard - Rockets
J Willard Gibbs - Physical Chem.
Haber & Bosch nitrogen fertilizer
Werner Heisenberg QM
Erwin Schrodinger QM
Dirac QM
Albert Einstein - relativity
Hubble - size of universe
Edison - electric light, recording
Fessenden - radio
Turing - computer theory
John Atanasoff- first digital computer
Tom Flowers- first programmable digital computer
Wegener - continental drift
Fermi - nuclear fission
Pauling -quantum chemistry
Crick - DNA
Borlaug - Green Revolution
Shockley - transistor
Backus (Fortran)
Thompson - UNIX
Ritchie - CReplies: @carol, @Anon
Oh dear, someone slipped “Warhol” onto your list.
This is how you know Cuba is not a White country, most of the street prostitutes there are either Black or Mulatto. Pics of Cuban street hookers.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3459/3388063195_7d6a5c57cc.jpg
https://ksyu.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/cuba-prostitues-one.gif
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/06/article-2650250-1E4711E600000578-105_964x633.jpg
http://www.complexdwoman.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Untitled-500x275.jpg
Yet if I were to go to Russia or The Ukraine for example, most of the street hookers there are going to be White.Replies: @SFG, @anonymous, @(((Owen)))
Might be more of a function of who is on the bottom of the totem pole in any society. The street types in majority white cities are usually disproportionally black and mixed types. A question could be asked about who are the customers, are they also black/mulatto?
How come the majority of prostitutes in Europe are not Black/Mulatto? If Cuba was a White country, the racial demographics of Cuban prostitutes should resemble the racial demographics of European prostitutes.
The prostitution scene in Cuba is a lot Blacker than the prostitution scene in Amsterdam and Kiev.
Cubans only make about $30 a month. As of 2005 most blacks were unemployed. That's why so many black/mulatto women go into prostitution. Blacks don't get remittances from the states. They don't own any of the mansions to operate businesses out of. Few blacks work in the tourism industry where they can make money in tips. Most of what blacks do to earn money is considered illegal so the prisons are 85 percent black. There are great economic disparities between the races.
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/cuba/racial-demographics.pdf
Plato
Aristotle
Palladio - classical architecture
Wright - modern architecture
Leeuwenhoek - microscope
Copernicus
Galileo - structure of solar system
Kepler - planetary orbits
Newton - calculus, mechanics
James Watt - Steam Engine
Stephenson - Railroad
Mendel - genetics
Lyell - geology
Linnaeus - biology systematics
Darwin - evolution
Hobbes - theory of government
Locke - theory of government
Washington - stepping down
Adam Smith - economics
Pasteur - germ theory of disease
Faraday - experimental EM
Maxwell - theoretical EM
Shakespeare
(pre Bach)
Bach
Beethoven
Brahms
Verdi
Mozart
Leonardo da Vinci
Michelangelo
Rembrandt
Van Gogh
Picasso
Pollock
Warhol
Wilbur&Orville Wright Human Flight
Whittle - Jet Plane
Goddard - Rockets
J Willard Gibbs - Physical Chem.
Haber & Bosch nitrogen fertilizer
Werner Heisenberg QM
Erwin Schrodinger QM
Dirac QM
Albert Einstein - relativity
Hubble - size of universe
Edison - electric light, recording
Fessenden - radio
Turing - computer theory
John Atanasoff- first digital computer
Tom Flowers- first programmable digital computer
Wegener - continental drift
Fermi - nuclear fission
Pauling -quantum chemistry
Crick - DNA
Borlaug - Green Revolution
Shockley - transistor
Backus (Fortran)
Thompson - UNIX
Ritchie - CReplies: @carol, @Anon
Warhol? Warhol!!???? Warhol??????!!!!!!
No mention that Hollywood is disproportionately dominated by Jews and homosexuals?
Hollywood actually has more powerful Jewish women than white conservative men.
And you have to bend over to the homosexual agenda to work in Hollywood.
Hollywood is more like AIPAC and GAYPAC.
But Dowd is to chicken to bash Jewish and homosexual power, so she rails against Catholics and Muslims.
What a coward.Replies: @Mr. Anon, @unpc downunder
Hollywood is dominated by money. This is why a mediocre, over-paid actress like Jennifer Lawrence can get away with complaining that she doesn’t make enough money. Kate Winslett, who actually is a good actress, was embarrassed when asked if women are underpaid in Hollywood.
Walt Disney aside, conservative white men probably aren’t as good as cosmopolitan Jews at assessing what the world’s unwashed masses or urban hipsters like paying to see. They’re probably more likely to produce quality box office flops like Master and Commander or Enemy at the Gates. From a business perspective, conservative white men are a pretty small market.
To give her credit, she has a kind of Susan Hayward raw uncensored quality. But that act is already wearing thin. Box office for the latest Hunger Games thing is way off. It'll make money, because people are stupid, but less than it should have.
” Miami blacks were notoriously angry about the changes in their city after Mariel, rioting three times in the 1980s.”
So are you saying angry blacks were actually behaving rationally?
“Might be more of a function of who is on the bottom of the totem pole in any society. The street types in majority white cities are usually disproportionally black and mixed types. A question could be asked about who are the customers, are they also black/mulatto?”
How come the majority of prostitutes in Europe are not Black/Mulatto? If Cuba was a White country, the racial demographics of Cuban prostitutes should resemble the racial demographics of European prostitutes.
The prostitution scene in Cuba is a lot Blacker than the prostitution scene in Amsterdam and Kiev.
OT but something that has been discussed here in the past. Commenters have pointed out that states like Texas routinely classify as ‘white’ many of their hispanic criminals, and thus believe that white crime is overstated.
But now oddly activists have pushed for a new law that makes Texas troopers ask everyone they stop their race/ethnicity because they believe Texas cops are stopping minorities for traffic violations disproportionately.
From the story, it appears this just applies to traffic stops and to Texas Troopers. I don’t know if local cops have to abide by this, or if the Texas most wanted list will be updated to reflect the true demographic traits of the suspects.
But it is funny that an issue that the Right has been complaining about for years has now sort of landed into the laps of their opponents albeit for a different reason. The Right think crime stats are skewed to make white crime look worse and hispanic crime better than it is. The Left thinks incorrectly classifying hispanics as whites hides innate police racial profiling.
In the McDuffie riots in Miami, 8 Whites were killed by blacks.
Latin American whites love metal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgk3u44W2i4 Check out those joyous white faces getting in touch with their people's music.Replies: @SFG, @(((Owen)))
They are a bit paler than median, I guess. Parts of Latin America are pretty pale–ever been to Uruguay?
Didn’t Steve document metal was huge in Scandinavia?
Walt Disney aside, conservative white men probably aren't as good as cosmopolitan Jews at assessing what the world's unwashed masses or urban hipsters like paying to see. They're probably more likely to produce quality box office flops like Master and Commander or Enemy at the Gates. From a business perspective, conservative white men are a pretty small market.Replies: @SFG, @ben tillman, @WhatEvvs
There IS some truth to that–New York or Los Angeles, whatever their other drawbacks, are probably better for getting the world’s pulse than Provo–but nepotism and a family connections are a HUGE thing in that industry. So it’s not just meritocracy at work.
Also be aware that stupid movies are a lot more salable across cultures–Master and Commander isn’t that interesting if you don’t have an Anglo cultural background, and Annie Hall isn’t that funny if you’re not from New York–but fart jokes are funny everywhere.
Actually, lots of white people saw and liked Annie Hall, including people who were not New Yorkers or upper west-side jewish nebbishes, like Woody Allen pretended to be. Whites tend to be a more curious audience for movies than the minorities that Hollywood now appeals to. In the era spanning the 50s through the 70s, there used to be lots of movies that were not especially paraochial: historical epics about exotic foreign peoples and european thrillers with largely non American casts, for example. "The Day of the Jackal", directed by the Austrian-American director Fred Zinneman (and I believe American financed), had foreign locations, a foreign plot, and an entirely foreign cast, and yet it did pretty well with American audiences. The decline of the white audience is going to be the decline of any kind of novelty or invention in movies.
Try reading this for example.
It was a good time in Miami to be a lawyer, banker, real estate developer, or all-purpose businessman with connections
I lived in Miami from the late ’80s to the late ’90s. It was also a good time to get a job in Miami as a police officer, corrections officer, prosecutor, or defense attorney, or as various support to one of these functions. The folks hired back then are now retiring on decent government pensions.
http://www.amren.com/news/2015/11/in-france-are-secular-iq-losses-biologically-caused/
“In France, are secular IQ losses biologically caused? A comment on Dutton and Lynn (2015)”, Michael A. Woodley and Curtis S. Dunkel, Intelligence, Volume 53, November–December 2015, Pages 81–85:
Presumably “secular” here means large, slow, persistent trends.
(1) A close relative of mine retired from Ohio and moved to Vero Beach, FL. After three years she returned to Ohio. Palmetto bugs, Hispanic supremacy (for want of a better term), and fear of encroaching Haitians with behaviors and attitudes she couldn't cope with.
(2) Organized crime--Mafia, Black or Mexican gangbangers, drug cartels, Russian mob--can be an important part of any economic or social analysis. I once spoke with a businessman years ago who explained why he wouldn't invest squat in my hometown in NE Ohio. "You've got organized labor, you've got Mafia. I toss in $10 million to build a factory, but I'll have no idea who actually runs my shop floor. When I have a property dispute or other legal problem, I won't know who controls the judges. I have the same problems in Mexico. They're cheaper." Not word for word, but pretty damned close.Replies: @E. Rekshun
A close relative of mine retired from Ohio and moved to Vero Beach, FL. After three years she returned to Ohio. Palmetto bugs, Hispanic supremacy (for want of a better term), and fear of encroaching Haitians with behaviors and attitudes she couldn’t cope with.
Aside from the Palmetto bugs (they’re not a problem with regular applications of insecticide), I think your relative is exaggerating her complaints about the prevalence of Hispanics and Haitians in Vero, FL. Vero Beach is certainly much nicer (and costlier) than Vero, but the large numbers of Hispanics and Haitians are 100 miles south (but, yes, encroaching closer every year).
What I think is worth noting about my relative's thoughts upon returning from Florida is that they have no political weight. Nobody in our leadership caste really includes an elderly and modestly comfortable white woman with unpleasant experiences in Florida as part of their political calculus.
Off-topic. What I'm seeing on "Unz Review" is a whole lot of intelligent posts and comments that are having a hard time making it to the public arena. I've done a bit of small-time politicking, and my free advice is that folks who believe they have a thought about something need to get on the public stump. They'll get sharper and smarter, because they'll find out how hard it is to actually get an idea accepted by the public.
Yeah, similarly a society can have a minority that winds up as bankers but isn’t representative of the larger population.
Or completely dominate the 100-meter sprint.
OT:
A French magazine tells of a study that shows that culture forces men to be macho which then generates excess testosterone.
We are how we do. Ergo men are men because of culture…
Conclusions? «Les pressions culturelles poussant les hommes à exercer une autorité et les femmes à éviter de le faire pourraient expliquer, en conjonction avec des facteurs héréditaires, pourquoi les niveaux de testostérone tendent à être plus élevés chez les hommes que chez les femmes», écrivent les auteurs.
* «Effects of gendered behavior on testosterone in women and men», par Sari M. van Anders, Jeffrey Steiger et Katherine L. Goldey, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America (PNAS), vol. 112 no. 45
It must be like being a Washington generals fan and always being forced to watch Harlem Globetrotters highlights. Sure, your team is in the video, but they're always the losers.Replies: @Thomas O. Meehan
“JE SUIS CHARLIE MARTEL”
Bravo for an excellent, pithy moniker. I intend to have this imprinted on a sweatshirt or two. Just needs the image of a war hammer to go with it. Thanks.
You forgot the link
Thanks for the fair criticism. I’ve never been to Florida, so I can’t confirm her observations and judgments.
What I think is worth noting about my relative’s thoughts upon returning from Florida is that they have no political weight. Nobody in our leadership caste really includes an elderly and modestly comfortable white woman with unpleasant experiences in Florida as part of their political calculus.
Off-topic. What I’m seeing on “Unz Review” is a whole lot of intelligent posts and comments that are having a hard time making it to the public arena. I’ve done a bit of small-time politicking, and my free advice is that folks who believe they have a thought about something need to get on the public stump. They’ll get sharper and smarter, because they’ll find out how hard it is to actually get an idea accepted by the public.
The Feds are eventually going to get involved and the FDA is going to regulate anything "herbal". Are you a real American selling chamomile tea at a farmers market? You will need a federal license. You will need to have your herbs tested. You will need to submit periodic reports to the Feds. Failure to be certified and submit reports will be deemed "dope dealing" under Federal law.
Thank you, China. Thank you, India. Thank you, Pakistan. Thank you, Islam.
A hundred years ago this would have been handled locally and much more expeditiously by a stern warning to the shopkeeper followed by a beating (or flammables) if the message did not get through.Replies: @(((Owen)))
A hundred years ago, smoking herbs was legal.
Did China, India, and Pakistan occupy our port cities with massive battleships and force us to import armies of incompatible aliens? It all looks like the work of native born American treason to me.
Latin American whites love metal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgk3u44W2i4 Check out those joyous white faces getting in touch with their people's music.Replies: @SFG, @(((Owen)))
One of my favorite tourist districts to visit over weekends around Mexico City now has a very popular nightclub that plays loud Skrillex-style dirge until 4am. I can’t send people to stay at the hotel on that block anymore at all.
Guess who’s going? Young white people with tattoos and piercings.
Is there anything white people can’t ruin?
This is how you know Cuba is not a White country, most of the street prostitutes there are either Black or Mulatto. Pics of Cuban street hookers.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3459/3388063195_7d6a5c57cc.jpg
https://ksyu.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/cuba-prostitues-one.gif
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/06/article-2650250-1E4711E600000578-105_964x633.jpg
http://www.complexdwoman.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Untitled-500x275.jpg
Yet if I were to go to Russia or The Ukraine for example, most of the street hookers there are going to be White.Replies: @SFG, @anonymous, @(((Owen)))
This is how you know Japan isn’t an Asian country. The highest demand expensive call girls are mostly blonde.
This is how you know the Netherlands isn’t a white country. The red-light district prostitutes are mostly southeast Asian.
White tourists pay for prostitutes. Only Americans were banned from traveling to Cuba. Plenty of tourists from Canada and Europe.
Cubans only make about $30 a month. As of 2005 most blacks were unemployed. That’s why so many black/mulatto women go into prostitution. Blacks don’t get remittances from the states. They don’t own any of the mansions to operate businesses out of. Few blacks work in the tourism industry where they can make money in tips. Most of what blacks do to earn money is considered illegal so the prisons are 85 percent black. There are great economic disparities between the races.
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/cuba/racial-demographics.pdf
Along the lines of that topic, a much-advertised feature film is now coming out about the child molestation scandal in the Catholic church in Boston. The film is called "Spotlight".
Of course, I'm sure the film won't dwell on the fact that the molesters in question were almost all (if not actually all) homosexual, and that the increasing homosexualization of the clergy was one of the underlying causes of the Churchs' sexual abuse problems. I'm equally certain that Hollywood will not be making any movies about what is alleged to be wide-spread sexual abuse of child-actors in Hollywood by members of the entertainment business themselves.Replies: @FLgeezer
“..about the child molestation scandal in the Catholic Church in Boston”
But of course, ‘it’s the season’ after all. Christmas is close at hand when this sort of trash comes forth from Hollywood. More typically it is a tidal wave of holocaust films. But Christian bashing
Is a sure sign that the birthday of the Prince of Peace is imminent. Hollywood is soooooo predictable.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotlight_(film)
Reactions from the Catholic Church
Spotlight has received a positive reception from many Catholic Church leaders. Cardinal Sean O'Malley of the Archdiocese of Boston said Spotlight illustrates how the newspaper’s reports prompted the church "to deal with what was shameful and hidden."
Commentary on Vatican Radio, official radio service of the Vatican, gave strong praise for the film, describing it as "honest" and "compelling." In the commentator's view, the movie shows that the Globe reporters exercised "their most pure vocation" as journalists.Replies: @Brutusale
The AMC networks' most popular TV show is the Zombie-gorefest "The Walking Dead", which airs on Sunday night. Why Sunday night, one might wonder.
“Also be aware that stupid movies are a lot more salable across cultures–Master and Commander isn’t that interesting if you don’t have an Anglo cultural background, and Annie Hall isn’t that funny if you’re not from New York–but fart jokes are funny everywhere.”
Actually, lots of white people saw and liked Annie Hall, including people who were not New Yorkers or upper west-side jewish nebbishes, like Woody Allen pretended to be. Whites tend to be a more curious audience for movies than the minorities that Hollywood now appeals to. In the era spanning the 50s through the 70s, there used to be lots of movies that were not especially paraochial: historical epics about exotic foreign peoples and european thrillers with largely non American casts, for example. “The Day of the Jackal”, directed by the Austrian-American director Fred Zinneman (and I believe American financed), had foreign locations, a foreign plot, and an entirely foreign cast, and yet it did pretty well with American audiences. The decline of the white audience is going to be the decline of any kind of novelty or invention in movies.
This is how you know the Netherlands isn't a white country. The red-light district prostitutes are mostly southeast Asian.Replies: @Jefferson
“This is how you know Japan isn’t an Asian country. The highest demand expensive call girls are mostly blonde.
This is how you know the Netherlands isn’t a white country. The red-light district prostitutes are mostly southeast Asian.”
This is how you know Cuba is not a White country, the average Cuban has 20 percent Sub Saharan African admixture.
Do you know of any European ethnic groups that average 20 percent Sub Saharan African admixture?
If the average American had as much Sub Saharan DNA as the average Cuban, I wonder how many Steve Sailer readers would classify The United States as a White country?
But of course, 'it's the season' after all. Christmas is close at hand when this sort of trash comes forth from Hollywood. More typically it is a tidal wave of holocaust films. But Christian bashing
Is a sure sign that the birthday of the Prince of Peace is imminent. Hollywood is soooooo predictable.Replies: @epebble, @Mr. Anon
I think it is not trash. It has received rave reviews from the Catholic Church.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotlight_(film)
Reactions from the Catholic Church
Spotlight has received a positive reception from many Catholic Church leaders. Cardinal Sean O’Malley of the Archdiocese of Boston said Spotlight illustrates how the newspaper’s reports prompted the church “to deal with what was shameful and hidden.”
Commentary on Vatican Radio, official radio service of the Vatican, gave strong praise for the film, describing it as “honest” and “compelling.” In the commentator’s view, the movie shows that the Globe reporters exercised “their most pure vocation” as journalists.
His predecessor, Bernard Law, should be in jail, but was brought over to the Vatican as a reward for the musical chairs he played in moving molester priests around the archdiocese.
Sandy Koufax lives part of the year in Vero Beach.
Walt Disney aside, conservative white men probably aren't as good as cosmopolitan Jews at assessing what the world's unwashed masses or urban hipsters like paying to see. They're probably more likely to produce quality box office flops like Master and Commander or Enemy at the Gates. From a business perspective, conservative white men are a pretty small market.Replies: @SFG, @ben tillman, @WhatEvvs
Are you sure she wasn’t just acting embarrassed?
But of course, 'it's the season' after all. Christmas is close at hand when this sort of trash comes forth from Hollywood. More typically it is a tidal wave of holocaust films. But Christian bashing
Is a sure sign that the birthday of the Prince of Peace is imminent. Hollywood is soooooo predictable.Replies: @epebble, @Mr. Anon
“But Christian bashing is a sure sign that the birthday of the Prince of Peace is imminent. Hollywood is soooooo predictable.”
The AMC networks’ most popular TV show is the Zombie-gorefest “The Walking Dead”, which airs on Sunday night. Why Sunday night, one might wonder.
Why wouldn’t it bother you?
Let’s work this out:
1) You don’t capitalize and punctuate because you are a busy executive who doesn’t have time. In this case, the EBT, Section 8 funds, and everything else is coming out of your income taxes. You should care.
2) You don’t capitalize and punctuate because you were poorly educated, and thus have trouble finding a decently paying job. Those blacks are competing with you on your level. You should care.
3) You live in Vermont, Idaho, some similar state with few blacks, or abroad. Should you care? Maybe not, but you should shut up about it.*
4) You’re an Aspergery pseudolibertarian who finds capitalization and punctuation oppressive, but has no problem with the government subsidizing your cheap labor nor with the eminent domain used to expand the highway that shortens your commute.
*note to Steve, Ron, or other screeners: I agree that it is very rude to tell another commenter to shut up, and have never done it before in years of commenting here, from the beginning. But go back and look at his question, and tell me he doesn’t have it coming good and hard.
5) These are your fellow citizens, past and future.
The problems of black America cannot be solved, and certainly not by whites. Yet it's not hard to visualize economic and social policies that would improve the situation of blacks, largely by incentivizing constructive behavior and penalizing antisocial behavior. Many of these policies would also better the lots of poor Americans, unlucky Americans, shrinking-middle-class Americans, and left-side-of-the-bell-curve Americans.
Instead, our society's elites double down on policies that benefit them and theirs.
Brazil is an inspiring model, if you are in the 1% and indifferent to asabiyah. Perhaps everyone else should be a bit more bothered by declining black wages.Replies: @WhatEvvs
Doesn’t he need only half a season more to qualify for the Hall of Fame? Suit him up.
http://baseballhall.org/hof/koufax-sandy
I believe his pal Drysdale had to wait a bit longer. Look it up!Replies: @WhatEvvs
Didn’t it play well in Chippewa Falls? The Leinie’s crowd would have liked the rabbi scene.
Let's work this out:
1) You don't capitalize and punctuate because you are a busy executive who doesn't have time. In this case, the EBT, Section 8 funds, and everything else is coming out of your income taxes. You should care.
2) You don't capitalize and punctuate because you were poorly educated, and thus have trouble finding a decently paying job. Those blacks are competing with you on your level. You should care.
3) You live in Vermont, Idaho, some similar state with few blacks, or abroad. Should you care? Maybe not, but you should shut up about it.*
4) You're an Aspergery pseudolibertarian who finds capitalization and punctuation oppressive, but has no problem with the government subsidizing your cheap labor nor with the eminent domain used to expand the highway that shortens your commute.
*note to Steve, Ron, or other screeners: I agree that it is very rude to tell another commenter to shut up, and have never done it before in years of commenting here, from the beginning. But go back and look at his question, and tell me he doesn't have it coming good and hard.Replies: @ic1000
Excellent reply, Reg Caesar. And, above, Sailer added to your list:
5) These are your fellow citizens, past and future.
The problems of black America cannot be solved, and certainly not by whites. Yet it’s not hard to visualize economic and social policies that would improve the situation of blacks, largely by incentivizing constructive behavior and penalizing antisocial behavior. Many of these policies would also better the lots of poor Americans, unlucky Americans, shrinking-middle-class Americans, and left-side-of-the-bell-curve Americans.
Instead, our society’s elites double down on policies that benefit them and theirs.
Brazil is an inspiring model, if you are in the 1% and indifferent to asabiyah. Perhaps everyone else should be a bit more bothered by declining black wages.
Can’t tell if u r joking – Koufax made it to the HoF in his 1st year of eligibility, unanimously.
http://baseballhall.org/hof/koufax-sandy
I believe his pal Drysdale had to wait a bit longer. Look it up!
I wonder what would have happened to Koufax if they had had the surgical techniques then, that they do now. It's pretty awesome what surgeons can do with tendons and ligaments.
http://baseballhall.org/hof/koufax-sandy
I believe his pal Drysdale had to wait a bit longer. Look it up!Replies: @WhatEvvs
PS, for some reason, I can’t edit anymore, so I have to add this as another comment.
I wonder what would have happened to Koufax if they had had the surgical techniques then, that they do now. It’s pretty awesome what surgeons can do with tendons and ligaments.
5) These are your fellow citizens, past and future.
The problems of black America cannot be solved, and certainly not by whites. Yet it's not hard to visualize economic and social policies that would improve the situation of blacks, largely by incentivizing constructive behavior and penalizing antisocial behavior. Many of these policies would also better the lots of poor Americans, unlucky Americans, shrinking-middle-class Americans, and left-side-of-the-bell-curve Americans.
Instead, our society's elites double down on policies that benefit them and theirs.
Brazil is an inspiring model, if you are in the 1% and indifferent to asabiyah. Perhaps everyone else should be a bit more bothered by declining black wages.Replies: @WhatEvvs
Add to that, and I mean this in the least schmaltzy way, we’re all connected. What happens to them, eventually happens to the least of us. Drug ODs up in 35 states among the youth – and from what I read, the whitest states are the worst hit.
Walt Disney aside, conservative white men probably aren't as good as cosmopolitan Jews at assessing what the world's unwashed masses or urban hipsters like paying to see. They're probably more likely to produce quality box office flops like Master and Commander or Enemy at the Gates. From a business perspective, conservative white men are a pretty small market.Replies: @SFG, @ben tillman, @WhatEvvs
Jesus, I thought I was the only one.
To give her credit, she has a kind of Susan Hayward raw uncensored quality. But that act is already wearing thin. Box office for the latest Hunger Games thing is way off. It’ll make money, because people are stupid, but less than it should have.
Bravo for an excellent, pithy moniker. I intend to have this imprinted on a sweatshirt or two. Just needs the image of a war hammer to go with it. Thanks.Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel
Bien sur mon frere!
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/government-orders-bank-tellers-to-alert-police-about-your-cash-withdrawals-so-they-can-seize-the-funds-investigate_03232015
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotlight_(film)
Reactions from the Catholic Church
Spotlight has received a positive reception from many Catholic Church leaders. Cardinal Sean O'Malley of the Archdiocese of Boston said Spotlight illustrates how the newspaper’s reports prompted the church "to deal with what was shameful and hidden."
Commentary on Vatican Radio, official radio service of the Vatican, gave strong praise for the film, describing it as "honest" and "compelling." In the commentator's view, the movie shows that the Globe reporters exercised "their most pure vocation" as journalists.Replies: @Brutusale
Of course O’Malley said that. What’s he, or the Vatican, going to say, that it’s all a lie?
His predecessor, Bernard Law, should be in jail, but was brought over to the Vatican as a reward for the musical chairs he played in moving molester priests around the archdiocese.
Sorry, E, but as another Bostonian who visits Florida quite often to visit family, the sheer scale of arthropods there is frightening the first few times you experience it. I’ll never forget the first time I drove through a “love bug” swarm!