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As we all know, race does not exist. It’s just a social construct. Except when talking about World War Hair. Black hair is a biological fact of nature. From Senator Cory Booker’s Facebook page:

Senator Cory Booker
7 hrs ·
Every day, black people face discrimination just for wearing their natural hairstyles. For expressing their cultural heritage through locs, braids, and more, they’re being fired from jobs, harassed, and denied civil rights.

A year ago, Andrew Johnson was forced to cut his dreadlocks in order to compete in his high school wrestling match.

Gabrielle Union’s was told her hair was “too black” for work.

And Penn State football player Jonathan Sutherland was sent a letter saying his hair was “awful.”

Discrimination against black hair is discrimination against black people. No one should be denied a job, an education, or face discrimination due to their natural hair.

That’s why I’m introducing the #CROWNAct with Rep. Cedric Richmond. Because natural hairstyles are a reflection of cultural heritage—and no one should have their civil rights violated for expressing who they are.

 
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  1. When joke becomes faith, worship the joke.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    As long as shots don't ring out later, I'm ok with that.

    https://youtu.be/-xSORIDw1Sg?t=112
  2. “and no one should have their civil rights violated for expressing who they are*”

  3. You know there is no real discrimination in society when we are down to claiming hair styles are costing people employment.

    • Agree: Colin Wright, Mr. Grey
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    There's real discrimination alright. It's just that AWFLs have hijacked so much of Affirmative Action for themselves that both white males and nonwhites think they're being discriminated against. They could both be right.
  4. There’s nothing natural about dreadlocks. In fact that’s a lot of work. Anyone that spends that much time of their hair is not serious person. And it looks really gross.

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    What's with black men and their girly hairdos?

    My theory is that the boys watch Mama braid their sister's hair in cornrows and want some attention too, but with no man about the house the only way they can get it is to behave like girls.

    Black mothers obsess over their little men. They dote on them. (this from a source who has first-hand experience working with single black mothers and their toddlers) The seemingly inevitable outcome is the refrain; "My boy would never have shot nobody. He wasn't into drugs. The poolice set him up."

    , @South Texas Guy

    Every day, black people face discrimination just for wearing their natural hairstyles.
     

    There’s nothing natural about dreadlocks. In fact that’s a lot of work. Anyone that spends that much time of their hair is not serious person. And it looks really gross.
     
    Yep, nailed it, Bugg. Try being a White guy, or really any other guy (or girl) showing up for work at a bank with mix of blue, pink and green hair, and claiming it's your natural hairsyle? To go a step further, imagine showing up to an emergency room with stomach pains, and being informed that Dr. Kwami Smith will be perfoming the procedure. At that point, I'll roll the dice and go to another hospital.
    , @Svevlad
    There's a reason why they're called dreadlocks

    Anyways, if you have curly hair, the hairs might tangle together into clusters - that is natural dreadlocks. But that basically looks like Lisa Simpson
  5. Cory Booker is going to go back under the rock he crawled out from at some point, isn’t he?

    There’s exactly one thing to be said for him; it’s highly unlikely he’ll ever become President.

    He was a puppet created by Zionists…who blew it when he was caught grinning and holding up a banner calling for all walls — from Mexico to Palestine — to come down.

    I know he’s black, but surely there’s a sharper pencil in the drawer.

  6. The guy is vaguely like Antonio Villaraigosa. He’s a minority puppet, and willing enough to serve his masters — but just too dumb to live.

  7. “And Penn State football player Jonathan Sutherland was sent a letter saying his hair was “awful.””

    this is probably the most ROFLMAO passage for me.

    • Agree: kaganovitch
  8. Honestly, I tend to somewhat gloss over Steve’s black hair postings relative to the attention I afford to his other postings, because the topic generally strikes me as more diversionary, less central. I have to say, however, that I might be tuning in more now after having experienced my first ever black hair incident while commuting home this Thanksgiving. The context was the Newark Airport Air Train, which I hopped on because I had to switch from Terminal C to Terminal A. When I got in, I took stock that the other passengers consisted of a wheel-chair ridden middle eastern guy, I’d guess maybe an Egyptian (not my area of expertise), a black airport worker gal with Black Hair escorting the handicapped Egyptian, a young black woman traveler with Black Hair, and two thuggish early thirties black males who most certainly weren’t getting on any planes (what business they had there and why they’re allowed onto the air train is another topic entirely). Well, deftly, the Egyptian notices the black traveler’s hair and politely implores if he can touch it, to which she accedes, whereupon 20 seconds of indulgent hair rubbing ensue. But, when the Egyptian tells her he’s the expert on this type of hair, she snappily replies “So, What’z it called then?”. When the Egyptian fumbles to produce an answer, she suddenly pulls back her hair and erupts “Why you sayin’ you was duh expert if’n you don’ even know what dis iz called!” The handicapped Egyptian then asks to initiate a second bout of hair rubbing. Permission denied.

    But the hair saga continues. While the black female airport worker was offboarding the Egyptian at Terminal A, one of the vagrant black thugs starts to get antsy. “Yo wheelchair man gedda fuck off, gedda fuck off the fuckin’ train, I needa gedda fuck off here wheelchair man”. When the black female wheelchair escort has wheeled the Egyptian right outside the doorway, the thug then outstretches his hand over the woman’s Black Hair, in the manner of palming a basketball and asks her in a mocking voice “Can I touch your hair, mz?”, prompting a shark rebuke, and threats to call security. Part of me wanted to stick around and defend her, but she seemed to have some innate ghetto sensibility for standing her ground with black males, and this seemed like mainly black-on-black sort of business, so I just abruptly hauled myself to security at maximum stride. Anyways….

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    the Egyptian notices the black traveler’s hair and politely implores if he can touch it, to which she accedes
     
    And thus began the legend of Kink Tut and his Nubian-powered sky chariot.
    , @ThreeCranes
    "Part of me wanted to stick around and defend her..."

    Derb didn't include this in his list so I will...

    NEVER, EVER get between a black male and a black female who are having a fight. She will turn on you while he hangs back and enjoys watching you squirm under a withering hate storm of invective; or--if you're really unlucky--a literal pummeling.

    "but she seemed to have some innate ghetto sensibility for standing her ground with black males.."
    Shrewd observation.

    "and this seemed like mainly black-on-black sort of business.."
    Yes, butt out. You weren't invited.

    "so I just abruptly hauled myself to security at maximum stride".
    You've got good instincts.

    , @El Dato
    You could make a Simpson episode out of that.
    , @Neoconned
    I lived in the hood for yrs....2 things. One, stay out of their fights. If they're outside fighting don't make eye contact and don't say anything.

    2 - "respect"....dont ever call the cops. They don't want the cops there...they want to fight it out. If they say hi wave and walk away....dont ever show weakness but also don't engage them.
  9. You laugh at this simpleton now, but one day you will cry. Guys like this and his “Crown Act” are the future of this country. Imagine when the democrats get an ANC-like permanent congressional majority:

    • Agree: Thea
  10. And Penn State football player Jonathan Sutherland was sent a letter saying his hair was “awful.”

    Oh, the Humanity! It’s a hairocaust out there!

    • LOL: dearieme
  11. No, no, don’t you see, my farts have a particularly fresh quaff, an almost otherworldly aroma, you simply must smell them. – Sen. Booker

  12. This is Zachary Kiesch, a correspondent for ABC News:

    Until I see a national news network hire a long-haired white male correspondent, I will refuse to take WWH seriously.

    • Replies: @jpp
    I thought that was Ibram Kendi!
    , @Stan Adams
    He appears to be something of a narcissist. Check out his Instagram:

    https://www.instagram.com/ztkiesch/?hl=en

    Evidently the post-menopausal cat ladies can't get enough of him:

    http://wikinetworth.com/uploads/Zachery.JPG
  13. >wrestler
    Real wrestling is intense. If I had hair that was going to get unintentionally pinched and ripped out by a guy more or less beating me, I’d cut it off without any hesitation.
    >fashion model
    OH NO, NOT A FASHION MODEL, HAVING TO HAVE DIFFERENT HAIRSTYLES! WHY HAS GOD ABANDONED US?
    >a football player
    Well they have helmets —
    >sent a letter saying that his hair was “awful”
    … what? I am hearing the theme from Curb Your Enthusiasm on this one. Are football players historically sensitive about their hairstyle?

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    High School rule;

    "Hair shall not extend below the earlobe on the sides and must be above the top of a normal shirt in the back. The hair, in its natural state, shall not extend below the eyebrows in uniform and appearance"

    You can't grab a guy's hair in wrestling.

    Some guys would put gel in their longish hair. This would come off on the opposing wrestler's hands making it hard for him to grip his opponent.

  14. Coming from a bald man like Cory Booker, this feels a bit like “Bernice Bobs Her Hair,” but switched around a bit. “You should be allowed to grow your hair into dreadlocks. Really.”

  15. Look. Dark skin means “out in the sun” doing manual labor.

    White skin means indoors, not having to do manual work.

    So everyone wants to look like they can afford to live indoors.

  16. Walmart employee must have been diss-respectin’ fella’s hair.

  17. My reaction to all these “black hair” stories —

    They sure do love to be the center of attention.

  18. And why does the guy with the shaved head care?

  19. @VladIII
    This is Zachary Kiesch, a correspondent for ABC News: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDyCeMfXsAAav9A.jpg

    Until I see a national news network hire a long-haired white male correspondent, I will refuse to take WWH seriously.

    I thought that was Ibram Kendi!

  20. I know one thing

    white girls sure like the hair (and other things ( that belong to Black Men

    Also we white people need to stop touching the hair of Black People

    It’s like you guys are willfully ignorant of colonialism and white supremacy

    The demographics are changing and there will be s reckoning

    Your descendants will not look like you

    Read Leonard Pitts

    Justin Moss

    Marie Lu

    Sabaa Tahir

    • Replies: @J1234

    white girls sure like the hair (and other things ( that belong to Black Men
     
    Hey, stop talking about your mom that way!
  21. “Natural hairstyle” is a term of art, which, (naturally) means the exact opposite of a natural hairstyle.
    What black people call “natural hairstyles” are anything but natural and require a lot of time and effort to achieve.

    • Agree: Jonathan Mason
  22. @Arclight
    You know there is no real discrimination in society when we are down to claiming hair styles are costing people employment.

    There’s real discrimination alright. It’s just that AWFLs have hijacked so much of Affirmative Action for themselves that both white males and nonwhites think they’re being discriminated against. They could both be right.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    In the early 1990s, every ethnic group in Yugoslavia felt uniquely offended by the collapsing government's long-standing policies, which did include heavy doses of affirmative action.

    It really, really didn't end well.

    , @AnotherDad


    Every day, black people face discrimination just for wearing their natural hairstyles. For expressing their cultural heritage through locs, braids, and more, they’re being fired from jobs, harassed, and denied civil rights.
     
    Booker is right. I don't see how there's any real argument about this.

    Once you accept that it was "wrong" for Samuel Applebaum to be denied admission to Waspy Acres Country Club or young Morry to not make the (generous) Jewish quota at Harvard ... then here you are.

    Not complicated:

    Either people are free to associate as they wish--i.e. "discriminate"--in which case there will be tendency for institutions and business to cater to the norms of the majority. And many minorities will conform--dress, grooming, behavior, etc.--to the majority's culture to get along or make a good living. I.e. you will be free and your society will be majoritarian.

    Or, you deny people's natural rights to associate--i.e. discriminate--as they wish in order to push minoritarianism. In which case, the state will be endlessly running around bullying people in the name of the "civil rights" (which are not actually "civil" rights) of this or that minority.

    ~~

    There's some dude at my dad's retirement community who wears makeup and dresses like he's a woman (except for his Seahawks 12th man jersey). My shop--i would have fired his ass immediately, because i don't want to look at that annoying (and showy) shit and wouldn't think my elderly clientele should have to either. I have some notion of what Western/American standards of dress and behavior are appropriate and pleasant to be around and believe it is my right to enforce those in a business i own. But i think doing so would actually be illegal in Washington State! (Suck it, you bigoted old fogeys!)

    ~~

    There aren't 27 different ideologies being what "the left" (not really the left) is doing. There is only one--very evil--ideology behind all the destruction--from mass immigration, to muzzie aggression, to harassing Christian bakers, to BLM forcing depolicing, to boys winning girls' sports--that the left is raining down on the West--minoritarianism.

    Either people are free. In which case, the majority is able to live as it wants and the majority's norms, values and culture will tend to be dominant, and life can be relatively uncontentious and pleasant. Or people are not free, and the state is omni-present, bossing people around to "protect" the "rights" of whatever minority has managed to push their "rights" forward and harness state power to their cause. And life is endless unpleasant contention and endless harassment of normal (majority) people wanting to live according to their norms and culture.

    That's the choice:
    Freedom and majoritarianism or minoritarianism and slavery.
  23. @jpp
    Honestly, I tend to somewhat gloss over Steve's black hair postings relative to the attention I afford to his other postings, because the topic generally strikes me as more diversionary, less central. I have to say, however, that I might be tuning in more now after having experienced my first ever black hair incident while commuting home this Thanksgiving. The context was the Newark Airport Air Train, which I hopped on because I had to switch from Terminal C to Terminal A. When I got in, I took stock that the other passengers consisted of a wheel-chair ridden middle eastern guy, I'd guess maybe an Egyptian (not my area of expertise), a black airport worker gal with Black Hair escorting the handicapped Egyptian, a young black woman traveler with Black Hair, and two thuggish early thirties black males who most certainly weren't getting on any planes (what business they had there and why they're allowed onto the air train is another topic entirely). Well, deftly, the Egyptian notices the black traveler's hair and politely implores if he can touch it, to which she accedes, whereupon 20 seconds of indulgent hair rubbing ensue. But, when the Egyptian tells her he's the expert on this type of hair, she snappily replies "So, What'z it called then?". When the Egyptian fumbles to produce an answer, she suddenly pulls back her hair and erupts "Why you sayin' you was duh expert if'n you don' even know what dis iz called!" The handicapped Egyptian then asks to initiate a second bout of hair rubbing. Permission denied.

    But the hair saga continues. While the black female airport worker was offboarding the Egyptian at Terminal A, one of the vagrant black thugs starts to get antsy. "Yo wheelchair man gedda fuck off, gedda fuck off the fuckin' train, I needa gedda fuck off here wheelchair man". When the black female wheelchair escort has wheeled the Egyptian right outside the doorway, the thug then outstretches his hand over the woman's Black Hair, in the manner of palming a basketball and asks her in a mocking voice "Can I touch your hair, mz?", prompting a shark rebuke, and threats to call security. Part of me wanted to stick around and defend her, but she seemed to have some innate ghetto sensibility for standing her ground with black males, and this seemed like mainly black-on-black sort of business, so I just abruptly hauled myself to security at maximum stride. Anyways....

    the Egyptian notices the black traveler’s hair and politely implores if he can touch it, to which she accedes

    And thus began the legend of Kink Tut and his Nubian-powered sky chariot.

    • LOL: Redneck farmer, kikz
  24. I hate to bring it up, but Yaphet Kotto is the reigning world champion of awful hair. Maybe y’all remember him in “Across 110th Street”……. If Corey Booker ever saw Yaphet in that film, he would probably STFU.

    I don’t know why Yaphet won’t just shave his head. Maybe he has one of those peanut heads or something.

  25. @Bugg
    There's nothing natural about dreadlocks. In fact that's a lot of work. Anyone that spends that much time of their hair is not serious person. And it looks really gross.

    What’s with black men and their girly hairdos?

    My theory is that the boys watch Mama braid their sister’s hair in cornrows and want some attention too, but with no man about the house the only way they can get it is to behave like girls.

    Black mothers obsess over their little men. They dote on them. (this from a source who has first-hand experience working with single black mothers and their toddlers) The seemingly inevitable outcome is the refrain; “My boy would never have shot nobody. He wasn’t into drugs. The poolice set him up.”

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    It ain't just their hair. Black men are obsessed with having their clothing match and are positively faggish in their taste in jewelry. I used to sell jewelry and black men would want to try on women's rings and bracelets, and get peeved when there were none in their sizes.

    One young black man asked me, "Hey, pops, where the men's charm bracelets at?". I said, "There ain't no such thing, youngun".
  26. @jpp
    Honestly, I tend to somewhat gloss over Steve's black hair postings relative to the attention I afford to his other postings, because the topic generally strikes me as more diversionary, less central. I have to say, however, that I might be tuning in more now after having experienced my first ever black hair incident while commuting home this Thanksgiving. The context was the Newark Airport Air Train, which I hopped on because I had to switch from Terminal C to Terminal A. When I got in, I took stock that the other passengers consisted of a wheel-chair ridden middle eastern guy, I'd guess maybe an Egyptian (not my area of expertise), a black airport worker gal with Black Hair escorting the handicapped Egyptian, a young black woman traveler with Black Hair, and two thuggish early thirties black males who most certainly weren't getting on any planes (what business they had there and why they're allowed onto the air train is another topic entirely). Well, deftly, the Egyptian notices the black traveler's hair and politely implores if he can touch it, to which she accedes, whereupon 20 seconds of indulgent hair rubbing ensue. But, when the Egyptian tells her he's the expert on this type of hair, she snappily replies "So, What'z it called then?". When the Egyptian fumbles to produce an answer, she suddenly pulls back her hair and erupts "Why you sayin' you was duh expert if'n you don' even know what dis iz called!" The handicapped Egyptian then asks to initiate a second bout of hair rubbing. Permission denied.

    But the hair saga continues. While the black female airport worker was offboarding the Egyptian at Terminal A, one of the vagrant black thugs starts to get antsy. "Yo wheelchair man gedda fuck off, gedda fuck off the fuckin' train, I needa gedda fuck off here wheelchair man". When the black female wheelchair escort has wheeled the Egyptian right outside the doorway, the thug then outstretches his hand over the woman's Black Hair, in the manner of palming a basketball and asks her in a mocking voice "Can I touch your hair, mz?", prompting a shark rebuke, and threats to call security. Part of me wanted to stick around and defend her, but she seemed to have some innate ghetto sensibility for standing her ground with black males, and this seemed like mainly black-on-black sort of business, so I just abruptly hauled myself to security at maximum stride. Anyways....

    “Part of me wanted to stick around and defend her…”

    Derb didn’t include this in his list so I will…

    NEVER, EVER get between a black male and a black female who are having a fight. She will turn on you while he hangs back and enjoys watching you squirm under a withering hate storm of invective; or–if you’re really unlucky–a literal pummeling.

    “but she seemed to have some innate ghetto sensibility for standing her ground with black males..”
    Shrewd observation.

    “and this seemed like mainly black-on-black sort of business..”
    Yes, butt out. You weren’t invited.

    “so I just abruptly hauled myself to security at maximum stride”.
    You’ve got good instincts.

  27. A couple of AP’s “top photos of the year”.

    Posted without comment, just wanted to add a little color to the thread:

    hair

    Kam

    • Replies: @bomag

    just wanted to add a little color diversity to the thread
     
  28. @J.Ross
    >wrestler
    Real wrestling is intense. If I had hair that was going to get unintentionally pinched and ripped out by a guy more or less beating me, I'd cut it off without any hesitation.
    >fashion model
    OH NO, NOT A FASHION MODEL, HAVING TO HAVE DIFFERENT HAIRSTYLES! WHY HAS GOD ABANDONED US?
    >a football player
    Well they have helmets --
    >sent a letter saying that his hair was "awful"
    ... what? I am hearing the theme from Curb Your Enthusiasm on this one. Are football players historically sensitive about their hairstyle?

    High School rule;

    “Hair shall not extend below the earlobe on the sides and must be above the top of a normal shirt in the back. The hair, in its natural state, shall not extend below the eyebrows in uniform and appearance”

    You can’t grab a guy’s hair in wrestling.

    Some guys would put gel in their longish hair. This would come off on the opposing wrestler’s hands making it hard for him to grip his opponent.

  29. Speaking of football, one of our local team (49ers) announcers, Tim Ryan, just got himself suspended for being racially insensitive. It’s the “talk of the town”, for the moment.

    “San Francisco 49ers radio announcer Tim Ryan shocked folks this week after he got himself suspended over comments he made Baltimore Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson. Ryan stated the 49ers defense struggled against the Ravens in part due to Jackson’s skin color making it more difficult to read fake handoffs.”

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    I read about this Tim Ryan flap the other day. And that was my take as well. Now we've reached the point where you can't say anyting about skin color ... in even in relation to color! At least you can't say it if you are talking about minorities.

    I did the image search on "Lamar Jackson carrying football" and sure enough in one of the first pics i couldn't immediately see where the ball was. I don't know if this matters on the field. It might be all the players would tell you it makes no difference. But it's not stupid. The guy's skin tone is closer to "football" than most other (maybe all) NFL quarterbacks.

    Again this is what diversity and minoritarianism gives you: endless contention, whining, unpleasantness.

    ~~

    For once it would be cool to see one of these blacks actually act like a man. This Lamar Jackson could tweet out his support for Tim Ryan. "Tim Ryan is spot on. I was born with natural football camouflage. You can't see it and by the time you do ... you can't catch me! Deal with it suckas!"

    I could b.s. about racial stuff/stereotypes with black guys back in the 70s--no one getting upset. It wasn't some deep secret that we looked, talked, behaved differently. Differences were grist for the mill. But I gather those days are gone. Now after 50+ of minoritarianism as reigning ideology, blacks have copied the Jews prickly sensitivities. If you can assert your minority privilege and push whitey around a bit ... why not.
  30. My first reaction: “Yeah, just what we need, another law!” But then I saw that this new legislation would plug a gaping hole in the current legal hole, and, boy, now I’m all for it!

  31. The most legitimate case they could make for blacks and hair is one they almost never do– black men’s frequent pseudofolliculitis barbae, a.k.a. “razor bumps”, a genuine medical condition.

    But it’s always about women’s hair. That must be male privilege at work.

    I commiserated with my black shipmates as I had the same problem, less severely, and was astonished at the Coast Guard’s decision to ban beards a few years after I got out.

    • Replies: @BB753
    I guess pseudofolliculitis barbae, a.k.a. “razor bumps” is an unfortunate consequence of race mixing: thick black skin and strong white beard.
    , @captflee
    Reg,

    As a fellow alumnus (QM on two WLBs) of Uncle Sam's Confused Group (although the sobriquet when I enlisted was "the Israeli Navy"), I too was appalled when the brass shit canned the beards, though less so than when they went from dungarees and chambray shirts to those god-awful blue 10,000% polyester uniforms, which were damned near an existential health threat to wear in the wheelhouse during GOMEX summers, not to mention at anytime in engineering spaces.

    That razor bump thing is no joke. You have my sympathy there...
    , @Joe Stalin
    Reminds me of what a radiation physicist told me; Black women who get their ears pierced have an incidence of developing keloids on their ears. Sometimes these are treated with radiation.
  32. Anonymous[269] • Disclaimer says:

    Every potus election cycle there are several opportunistic reptiles who get in the race not to win but to “raise their national profile” or otherwise self-promote or sell books or position themselves for some future higher office like VP.

    This is cynical stuff. They don’t have any intention of becoming president.

    People need to call out these bullshitters. They appear in every cycle. It’s annoying. Booker is one of the bullshitters.

    The entire phenomenon appears to be another new crappy tradition in the modern American culture.

    We got reptiles, we got vultures, we got sharpies, we got grifters. It’s who we are!

    • Replies: @bomag
    "In the future, everyone will be a presidential candidate for fifteen minutes."
  33. @VladIII
    This is Zachary Kiesch, a correspondent for ABC News: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDyCeMfXsAAav9A.jpg

    Until I see a national news network hire a long-haired white male correspondent, I will refuse to take WWH seriously.

    He appears to be something of a narcissist. Check out his Instagram:

    https://www.instagram.com/ztkiesch/?hl=en

    Evidently the post-menopausal cat ladies can’t get enough of him:

  34. Also, you are not allowed to note the fact that some folks have dark skin. Lamar Jackson, superstar QB for the Baltimore Ratbirds, has dark skin which makes it a bit harder to tell if he still has the FB after an RPO fake if he’s wearing a dark colored jersey. So, to even notice that someone has dark skin is a sin above and beyond mass murder is considered okay. Dick Sherman of the 49ers felt compelled to accept the apology of the poor sap that made the observation.

  35. anon[710] • Disclaimer says:

    Well… at least UPS went ahead and proceeded with the “don’t judge by the hair” idea to see how it would go, just in time for Cory Booker’s pronouncement.

    It seems to me Cory has yet to learn an important life lesson:

    Black people… too often… seem to… find a way to… let you down.

  36. @jpp
    Honestly, I tend to somewhat gloss over Steve's black hair postings relative to the attention I afford to his other postings, because the topic generally strikes me as more diversionary, less central. I have to say, however, that I might be tuning in more now after having experienced my first ever black hair incident while commuting home this Thanksgiving. The context was the Newark Airport Air Train, which I hopped on because I had to switch from Terminal C to Terminal A. When I got in, I took stock that the other passengers consisted of a wheel-chair ridden middle eastern guy, I'd guess maybe an Egyptian (not my area of expertise), a black airport worker gal with Black Hair escorting the handicapped Egyptian, a young black woman traveler with Black Hair, and two thuggish early thirties black males who most certainly weren't getting on any planes (what business they had there and why they're allowed onto the air train is another topic entirely). Well, deftly, the Egyptian notices the black traveler's hair and politely implores if he can touch it, to which she accedes, whereupon 20 seconds of indulgent hair rubbing ensue. But, when the Egyptian tells her he's the expert on this type of hair, she snappily replies "So, What'z it called then?". When the Egyptian fumbles to produce an answer, she suddenly pulls back her hair and erupts "Why you sayin' you was duh expert if'n you don' even know what dis iz called!" The handicapped Egyptian then asks to initiate a second bout of hair rubbing. Permission denied.

    But the hair saga continues. While the black female airport worker was offboarding the Egyptian at Terminal A, one of the vagrant black thugs starts to get antsy. "Yo wheelchair man gedda fuck off, gedda fuck off the fuckin' train, I needa gedda fuck off here wheelchair man". When the black female wheelchair escort has wheeled the Egyptian right outside the doorway, the thug then outstretches his hand over the woman's Black Hair, in the manner of palming a basketball and asks her in a mocking voice "Can I touch your hair, mz?", prompting a shark rebuke, and threats to call security. Part of me wanted to stick around and defend her, but she seemed to have some innate ghetto sensibility for standing her ground with black males, and this seemed like mainly black-on-black sort of business, so I just abruptly hauled myself to security at maximum stride. Anyways....

    You could make a Simpson episode out of that.

  37. @Anonymous
    When joke becomes faith, worship the joke.

    https://twitter.com/replyguyritchie/status/1202461082901766144

    As long as shots don’t ring out later, I’m ok with that.

  38. @Reg Cæsar
    The most legitimate case they could make for blacks and hair is one they almost never do-- black men's frequent pseudofolliculitis barbae, a.k.a. "razor bumps", a genuine medical condition.

    But it's always about women's hair. That must be male privilege at work.

    I commiserated with my black shipmates as I had the same problem, less severely, and was astonished at the Coast Guard's decision to ban beards a few years after I got out.

    https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.aocd.org/resource/resmgr/ddb/pseudofolliculitis_barbae_2_.jpg

    I guess pseudofolliculitis barbae, a.k.a. “razor bumps” is an unfortunate consequence of race mixing: thick black skin and strong white beard.

  39. @Bugg
    There's nothing natural about dreadlocks. In fact that's a lot of work. Anyone that spends that much time of their hair is not serious person. And it looks really gross.

    Every day, black people face discrimination just for wearing their natural hairstyles.

    There’s nothing natural about dreadlocks. In fact that’s a lot of work. Anyone that spends that much time of their hair is not serious person. And it looks really gross.

    Yep, nailed it, Bugg. Try being a White guy, or really any other guy (or girl) showing up for work at a bank with mix of blue, pink and green hair, and claiming it’s your natural hairsyle? To go a step further, imagine showing up to an emergency room with stomach pains, and being informed that Dr. Kwami Smith will be perfoming the procedure. At that point, I’ll roll the dice and go to another hospital.

  40. Tear-jerking story of hair-bullying makes mainstream daytime talkshow rounds:

  41. Every day, black people face discrimination just for wearing their natural hairstyles.

    Natural? Nobody is born with dreads of corn-rows.

  42. @danand
    A couple of AP’s “top photos of the year”.

    Posted without comment, just wanted to add a little color to the thread:

    https://flic.kr/p/2hVuibf

    https://flic.kr/p/2hVwKy9

    just wanted to add a little color diversity to the thread

  43. @Anonymous
    Every potus election cycle there are several opportunistic reptiles who get in the race not to win but to "raise their national profile" or otherwise self-promote or sell books or position themselves for some future higher office like VP.

    This is cynical stuff. They don't have any intention of becoming president.

    People need to call out these bullshitters. They appear in every cycle. It's annoying. Booker is one of the bullshitters.

    The entire phenomenon appears to be another new crappy tradition in the modern American culture.

    We got reptiles, we got vultures, we got sharpies, we got grifters. It's who we are!

    In the future, everyone will be a presidential candidate for fifteen minutes.

  44. Isn’t it time to acknowledge that people like Booker are basically right, that when black people do what they really like and present themselves as they really are it just rubs a lot of white people the wrong way? And that white people if they had their preferences and could state them and act on them without getting clobbered either by their associates or by their own consciences would choose to simply avoid black people? About a month ago I went with a friend to a seaside town where virtually no one was black, brown or colored in any way. What a relief, what a simple pleasure it was! Then we returned the rental car to the nearest city, and walked past a black couple of which the woman had braids or whatever you call her very thick mop-like thing down to her waist and swaying back and forth. Although my friend usually attacks me for being a racist reactionary, we were both seized with the unpleasant feeling that we were no longer in that pleasant, magical parenthesis anymore.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    Isn’t it time to acknowledge that people like Booker are basically right, that when black people do what they really like and present themselves as they really are it just rubs a lot of white people the wrong way? And that white people if they had their preferences and could state them and act on them without getting clobbered either by their associates or by their own consciences would choose to simply avoid black people? About a month ago I went with a friend to a seaside town where virtually no one was black, brown or colored in any way. What a relief, what a simple pleasure it was!
     
    Sort of "natural" black and white behavior is a relatively extreme gap.

    But the general principle holds: People like being around other people who behave "as they are supposed to". I.e. people like people like themselves. Duh.

    Diversity inherently means conflict and contention. While separate peoples in separate nations allows for life to be much less contentious, much more relaxed and pleasant
  45. @Bugg
    There's nothing natural about dreadlocks. In fact that's a lot of work. Anyone that spends that much time of their hair is not serious person. And it looks really gross.

    There’s a reason why they’re called dreadlocks

    Anyways, if you have curly hair, the hairs might tangle together into clusters – that is natural dreadlocks. But that basically looks like Lisa Simpson

  46. Anon[602] • Disclaimer says:

    Is this one of those “blacks can barbecue anywhere and don’t have to follow any rules” things, or can rules analogous to rules for white hair be established. (But as I write that I realized that practically speaking no employer is going to get anywhere near regulating black hair if such a law passes.)

    Dreadlocks these days seem to be mostly worn by Rachel Dolenzol types or octoroons or sedecimoroons who don’t look black to begin with and want some sort of “I’m black” indicator.

    Any sort of “black hair” that involves straightening it or tying on straight hair is not a “natural hairstyle,” but rather an unnatural, and appropriative, hairstyle. The California law that Booker is cribbing from defines braids and locs as “protective hairstyles,” without explanation.

    Unfortunately you’re going to end up with employers having one rule for everyone, no hair over three inches long, men or women, something like that.

  47. Unpopular opinion: people shouldn’t be discrimated against for being unwilling/unable to put industrial chemicals and/or other people’s hair on their heads.

    Booker found the worst possible way of phrasing it, but he’s not wrong.

  48. Hair Love Short Film (Full) | Sony Pictures Animation

    Published on Dec 5, 2019
    Hair Love, an animated short film from Matthew A. Cherry, tells the heartfelt story of an African American father learning to do his daughter’s hair for the first time.

    ******
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  49. Andrew Johnson was forced to cut his dreadlocks in order to compete in his high school wrestling match.

    … and the ref who correctly followed the rules about hair length was suspended for two years and the rules changed to accommodate dreadlocks.

    • Replies: @CCZ
    Wrestler Andrew Johnson Wanted Permanent Ban For Ref ... For Dreadlock Cutting

    "The high school wrestler who was forced to cut his dreadlocks before a wrestling match is happy the referee behind the incident was punished...but his attorney tells TMZ Sports the guy should be BANNED for LIFE."

    "The wrestler's attorney, Dominic Speziali, tells TMZ Sports Johnson and his family "welcome" the punishment and call it a win "for the progress of civil rights in New Jersey"... but feel it could have been more significant."

    https://www.tmz.com/2019/09/19/wrestler-andrew-johnson-happy-referee-suspended-dreadlock-incident/
  50. I just read an article last week saying automation will be even worse than they now think….they think it’s hard to get a job now….lol…

  51. @jpp
    Honestly, I tend to somewhat gloss over Steve's black hair postings relative to the attention I afford to his other postings, because the topic generally strikes me as more diversionary, less central. I have to say, however, that I might be tuning in more now after having experienced my first ever black hair incident while commuting home this Thanksgiving. The context was the Newark Airport Air Train, which I hopped on because I had to switch from Terminal C to Terminal A. When I got in, I took stock that the other passengers consisted of a wheel-chair ridden middle eastern guy, I'd guess maybe an Egyptian (not my area of expertise), a black airport worker gal with Black Hair escorting the handicapped Egyptian, a young black woman traveler with Black Hair, and two thuggish early thirties black males who most certainly weren't getting on any planes (what business they had there and why they're allowed onto the air train is another topic entirely). Well, deftly, the Egyptian notices the black traveler's hair and politely implores if he can touch it, to which she accedes, whereupon 20 seconds of indulgent hair rubbing ensue. But, when the Egyptian tells her he's the expert on this type of hair, she snappily replies "So, What'z it called then?". When the Egyptian fumbles to produce an answer, she suddenly pulls back her hair and erupts "Why you sayin' you was duh expert if'n you don' even know what dis iz called!" The handicapped Egyptian then asks to initiate a second bout of hair rubbing. Permission denied.

    But the hair saga continues. While the black female airport worker was offboarding the Egyptian at Terminal A, one of the vagrant black thugs starts to get antsy. "Yo wheelchair man gedda fuck off, gedda fuck off the fuckin' train, I needa gedda fuck off here wheelchair man". When the black female wheelchair escort has wheeled the Egyptian right outside the doorway, the thug then outstretches his hand over the woman's Black Hair, in the manner of palming a basketball and asks her in a mocking voice "Can I touch your hair, mz?", prompting a shark rebuke, and threats to call security. Part of me wanted to stick around and defend her, but she seemed to have some innate ghetto sensibility for standing her ground with black males, and this seemed like mainly black-on-black sort of business, so I just abruptly hauled myself to security at maximum stride. Anyways....

    I lived in the hood for yrs….2 things. One, stay out of their fights. If they’re outside fighting don’t make eye contact and don’t say anything.

    2 – “respect”….dont ever call the cops. They don’t want the cops there…they want to fight it out. If they say hi wave and walk away….dont ever show weakness but also don’t engage them.

  52. @Desiderius
    There's real discrimination alright. It's just that AWFLs have hijacked so much of Affirmative Action for themselves that both white males and nonwhites think they're being discriminated against. They could both be right.

    In the early 1990s, every ethnic group in Yugoslavia felt uniquely offended by the collapsing government’s long-standing policies, which did include heavy doses of affirmative action.

    It really, really didn’t end well.

  53. @ThreeCranes
    What's with black men and their girly hairdos?

    My theory is that the boys watch Mama braid their sister's hair in cornrows and want some attention too, but with no man about the house the only way they can get it is to behave like girls.

    Black mothers obsess over their little men. They dote on them. (this from a source who has first-hand experience working with single black mothers and their toddlers) The seemingly inevitable outcome is the refrain; "My boy would never have shot nobody. He wasn't into drugs. The poolice set him up."

    It ain’t just their hair. Black men are obsessed with having their clothing match and are positively faggish in their taste in jewelry. I used to sell jewelry and black men would want to try on women’s rings and bracelets, and get peeved when there were none in their sizes.

    One young black man asked me, “Hey, pops, where the men’s charm bracelets at?”. I said, “There ain’t no such thing, youngun”.

  54. That’s why I’m introducing the #CROWNAct with Rep. Cedric the Entertainer.

  55. @Reg Cæsar
    The most legitimate case they could make for blacks and hair is one they almost never do-- black men's frequent pseudofolliculitis barbae, a.k.a. "razor bumps", a genuine medical condition.

    But it's always about women's hair. That must be male privilege at work.

    I commiserated with my black shipmates as I had the same problem, less severely, and was astonished at the Coast Guard's decision to ban beards a few years after I got out.

    https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.aocd.org/resource/resmgr/ddb/pseudofolliculitis_barbae_2_.jpg

    Reg,

    As a fellow alumnus (QM on two WLBs) of Uncle Sam’s Confused Group (although the sobriquet when I enlisted was “the Israeli Navy”), I too was appalled when the brass shit canned the beards, though less so than when they went from dungarees and chambray shirts to those god-awful blue 10,000% polyester uniforms, which were damned near an existential health threat to wear in the wheelhouse during GOMEX summers, not to mention at anytime in engineering spaces.

    That razor bump thing is no joke. You have my sympathy there…

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    though less so than when they went from dungarees and chambray shirts to those god-awful blue 10,000% polyester uniforms
     
    That's all I ever wore. Dungarees is what we called them during the Nixon Administration, the last time I wore them. At least in blue.

    I was a QM, too, which is probably why I post so many charts maps in the comments.


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1uDpHCX0AAzeOU.jpg


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4s6vP1W4AAA_ea.png

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwVl8rtXQAghadV.jpg:large

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1ixBM8XcAMOeKf.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dq29Rd1WsAMpmFJ.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH7EZ3AXYAAH4Zv.jpg

  56. @Reg Cæsar
    The most legitimate case they could make for blacks and hair is one they almost never do-- black men's frequent pseudofolliculitis barbae, a.k.a. "razor bumps", a genuine medical condition.

    But it's always about women's hair. That must be male privilege at work.

    I commiserated with my black shipmates as I had the same problem, less severely, and was astonished at the Coast Guard's decision to ban beards a few years after I got out.

    https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.aocd.org/resource/resmgr/ddb/pseudofolliculitis_barbae_2_.jpg

    Reminds me of what a radiation physicist told me; Black women who get their ears pierced have an incidence of developing keloids on their ears. Sometimes these are treated with radiation.

  57. @Desiderius
    There's real discrimination alright. It's just that AWFLs have hijacked so much of Affirmative Action for themselves that both white males and nonwhites think they're being discriminated against. They could both be right.

    Every day, black people face discrimination just for wearing their natural hairstyles. For expressing their cultural heritage through locs, braids, and more, they’re being fired from jobs, harassed, and denied civil rights.

    Booker is right. I don’t see how there’s any real argument about this.

    Once you accept that it was “wrong” for Samuel Applebaum to be denied admission to Waspy Acres Country Club or young Morry to not make the (generous) Jewish quota at Harvard … then here you are.

    Not complicated:

    Either people are free to associate as they wish–i.e. “discriminate”–in which case there will be tendency for institutions and business to cater to the norms of the majority. And many minorities will conform–dress, grooming, behavior, etc.–to the majority’s culture to get along or make a good living. I.e. you will be free and your society will be majoritarian.

    Or, you deny people’s natural rights to associate–i.e. discriminate–as they wish in order to push minoritarianism. In which case, the state will be endlessly running around bullying people in the name of the “civil rights” (which are not actually “civil” rights) of this or that minority.

    ~~

    There’s some dude at my dad’s retirement community who wears makeup and dresses like he’s a woman (except for his Seahawks 12th man jersey). My shop–i would have fired his ass immediately, because i don’t want to look at that annoying (and showy) shit and wouldn’t think my elderly clientele should have to either. I have some notion of what Western/American standards of dress and behavior are appropriate and pleasant to be around and believe it is my right to enforce those in a business i own. But i think doing so would actually be illegal in Washington State! (Suck it, you bigoted old fogeys!)

    ~~

    There aren’t 27 different ideologies being what “the left” (not really the left) is doing. There is only one–very evil–ideology behind all the destruction–from mass immigration, to muzzie aggression, to harassing Christian bakers, to BLM forcing depolicing, to boys winning girls’ sports–that the left is raining down on the West–minoritarianism.

    Either people are free. In which case, the majority is able to live as it wants and the majority’s norms, values and culture will tend to be dominant, and life can be relatively uncontentious and pleasant. Or people are not free, and the state is omni-present, bossing people around to “protect” the “rights” of whatever minority has managed to push their “rights” forward and harness state power to their cause. And life is endless unpleasant contention and endless harassment of normal (majority) people wanting to live according to their norms and culture.

    That’s the choice:
    Freedom and majoritarianism or minoritarianism and slavery.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Legally speaking at least, this is not true. As a matter of law, we can choose to prohibit discrimination for certain reasons (race, religion, color) and allow employers and others free rein to discriminate for other reasons that are not legally prohibited (skill level, appearance, etc.) Under our system, that which is not prohibited is permitted so if you want to add something to the list (e.g. hair style) you need a special law for that, such as Booker is proposing. Either such a law will be approved by a majority of both houses of Congress and signed into law by the President or it won't. If it is, it reflects the will of the people that private property is not sacrosanct, especially in the case of certain spaces such as retail businesses that are open to and impact the general public.

    The idea that the government has no power to interfere with private business decisions in order to substitute its judgment left the station a LONG time ago, maybe around the time that Plessy's train left the depot. If you recall the background of that case, Plessy (7/8 white, 1/8 black) wanted to sit in the "whites only" car. The operators of the railroad wanted to let him sit there (it cost money to run twice as many cars). But the government of the State of Louisiana told them how to run their business and the Supreme Court said that was OK. Like a lot of decisions (like importing black people in the first place) the white people of America did not play the chess game a sufficient number of moves ahead. Short term results were more important than matters of principle . Principles are like virginity - once you have given them way, you can't take them back.
  58. @Tono Bungay
    Isn't it time to acknowledge that people like Booker are basically right, that when black people do what they really like and present themselves as they really are it just rubs a lot of white people the wrong way? And that white people if they had their preferences and could state them and act on them without getting clobbered either by their associates or by their own consciences would choose to simply avoid black people? About a month ago I went with a friend to a seaside town where virtually no one was black, brown or colored in any way. What a relief, what a simple pleasure it was! Then we returned the rental car to the nearest city, and walked past a black couple of which the woman had braids or whatever you call her very thick mop-like thing down to her waist and swaying back and forth. Although my friend usually attacks me for being a racist reactionary, we were both seized with the unpleasant feeling that we were no longer in that pleasant, magical parenthesis anymore.

    Isn’t it time to acknowledge that people like Booker are basically right, that when black people do what they really like and present themselves as they really are it just rubs a lot of white people the wrong way? And that white people if they had their preferences and could state them and act on them without getting clobbered either by their associates or by their own consciences would choose to simply avoid black people? About a month ago I went with a friend to a seaside town where virtually no one was black, brown or colored in any way. What a relief, what a simple pleasure it was!

    Sort of “natural” black and white behavior is a relatively extreme gap.

    But the general principle holds: People like being around other people who behave “as they are supposed to”. I.e. people like people like themselves. Duh.

    Diversity inherently means conflict and contention. While separate peoples in separate nations allows for life to be much less contentious, much more relaxed and pleasant

  59. @AnotherDad


    Every day, black people face discrimination just for wearing their natural hairstyles. For expressing their cultural heritage through locs, braids, and more, they’re being fired from jobs, harassed, and denied civil rights.
     
    Booker is right. I don't see how there's any real argument about this.

    Once you accept that it was "wrong" for Samuel Applebaum to be denied admission to Waspy Acres Country Club or young Morry to not make the (generous) Jewish quota at Harvard ... then here you are.

    Not complicated:

    Either people are free to associate as they wish--i.e. "discriminate"--in which case there will be tendency for institutions and business to cater to the norms of the majority. And many minorities will conform--dress, grooming, behavior, etc.--to the majority's culture to get along or make a good living. I.e. you will be free and your society will be majoritarian.

    Or, you deny people's natural rights to associate--i.e. discriminate--as they wish in order to push minoritarianism. In which case, the state will be endlessly running around bullying people in the name of the "civil rights" (which are not actually "civil" rights) of this or that minority.

    ~~

    There's some dude at my dad's retirement community who wears makeup and dresses like he's a woman (except for his Seahawks 12th man jersey). My shop--i would have fired his ass immediately, because i don't want to look at that annoying (and showy) shit and wouldn't think my elderly clientele should have to either. I have some notion of what Western/American standards of dress and behavior are appropriate and pleasant to be around and believe it is my right to enforce those in a business i own. But i think doing so would actually be illegal in Washington State! (Suck it, you bigoted old fogeys!)

    ~~

    There aren't 27 different ideologies being what "the left" (not really the left) is doing. There is only one--very evil--ideology behind all the destruction--from mass immigration, to muzzie aggression, to harassing Christian bakers, to BLM forcing depolicing, to boys winning girls' sports--that the left is raining down on the West--minoritarianism.

    Either people are free. In which case, the majority is able to live as it wants and the majority's norms, values and culture will tend to be dominant, and life can be relatively uncontentious and pleasant. Or people are not free, and the state is omni-present, bossing people around to "protect" the "rights" of whatever minority has managed to push their "rights" forward and harness state power to their cause. And life is endless unpleasant contention and endless harassment of normal (majority) people wanting to live according to their norms and culture.

    That's the choice:
    Freedom and majoritarianism or minoritarianism and slavery.

    Legally speaking at least, this is not true. As a matter of law, we can choose to prohibit discrimination for certain reasons (race, religion, color) and allow employers and others free rein to discriminate for other reasons that are not legally prohibited (skill level, appearance, etc.) Under our system, that which is not prohibited is permitted so if you want to add something to the list (e.g. hair style) you need a special law for that, such as Booker is proposing. Either such a law will be approved by a majority of both houses of Congress and signed into law by the President or it won’t. If it is, it reflects the will of the people that private property is not sacrosanct, especially in the case of certain spaces such as retail businesses that are open to and impact the general public.

    The idea that the government has no power to interfere with private business decisions in order to substitute its judgment left the station a LONG time ago, maybe around the time that Plessy’s train left the depot. If you recall the background of that case, Plessy (7/8 white, 1/8 black) wanted to sit in the “whites only” car. The operators of the railroad wanted to let him sit there (it cost money to run twice as many cars). But the government of the State of Louisiana told them how to run their business and the Supreme Court said that was OK. Like a lot of decisions (like importing black people in the first place) the white people of America did not play the chess game a sufficient number of moves ahead. Short term results were more important than matters of principle . Principles are like virginity – once you have given them way, you can’t take them back.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    Legally speaking at least, this is not true. As a matter of law, we can choose to prohibit discrimination for certain reasons (race, religion, color) and allow employers and others free rein to discriminate for other reasons that are not legally prohibited (skill level, appearance, etc.
     
    Agreed.

    As a matter of law, you can--in theory--do whatever you want, that's not contrary to the Constitution (and you can choose judges to work around that). Our Founders did not even contemplate the level of intrusion of the state we have--even the bullying British state didn't tell people whom to hire or whom to serve--into private affairs, so they didn't write in freedom of association in. So, write whatever bullying law you want.

    But--my point--as a matter of ideology, once you accept the minoritarian ethos there is no natural stop. It's just politics. So the contention is inherently endless. If you can get traction for your whine ... the reigning minoritarian ideology supports you. You are a put-upon minority and "Discrimination is wrong!"

    So you have stuff like trannies--which i couldn't even conceive of as a real thing ten years ago--with real traction. You've got fat acceptance in the wings. You have the whole muzzie female dress--and accomodation for norms (female swim hours at your pool, etc.) continuously percolating. And Booker is right: Blacks and whites don't have the same hair. It's a lot more work for a black gal to meet some sorta white girl hair style. That's not fair! Someone requiring white adjacent grooming norms is ... discriminating! Which is true. And under minoritarianism "discrimination is wrong!"

    As i said:

    Or people are not free, and the state is omni-present, bossing people around to “protect” the “rights” of whatever minority has managed to push their “rights” forward and harness state power to their cause. And life is endless unpleasant contention and endless harassment of normal (majority) people wanting to live according to their norms and culture.
     
  60. @Tiny Duck
    I know one thing

    white girls sure like the hair (and other things ( that belong to Black Men

    Also we white people need to stop touching the hair of Black People

    It's like you guys are willfully ignorant of colonialism and white supremacy

    The demographics are changing and there will be s reckoning

    Your descendants will not look like you

    Read Leonard Pitts

    Justin Moss

    Marie Lu

    Sabaa Tahir

    white girls sure like the hair (and other things ( that belong to Black Men

    Hey, stop talking about your mom that way!

  61. @danand
    Speaking of football, one of our local team (49ers) announcers, Tim Ryan, just got himself suspended for being racially insensitive. It’s the “talk of the town”, for the moment.

    “San Francisco 49ers radio announcer Tim Ryan shocked folks this week after he got himself suspended over comments he made Baltimore Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson. Ryan stated the 49ers defense struggled against the Ravens in part due to Jackson’s skin color making it more difficult to read fake handoffs.”
     
    https://youtu.be/N5cpmPEOPMw

    I read about this Tim Ryan flap the other day. And that was my take as well. Now we’ve reached the point where you can’t say anyting about skin color … in even in relation to color! At least you can’t say it if you are talking about minorities.

    I did the image search on “Lamar Jackson carrying football” and sure enough in one of the first pics i couldn’t immediately see where the ball was. I don’t know if this matters on the field. It might be all the players would tell you it makes no difference. But it’s not stupid. The guy’s skin tone is closer to “football” than most other (maybe all) NFL quarterbacks.

    Again this is what diversity and minoritarianism gives you: endless contention, whining, unpleasantness.

    ~~

    For once it would be cool to see one of these blacks actually act like a man. This Lamar Jackson could tweet out his support for Tim Ryan. “Tim Ryan is spot on. I was born with natural football camouflage. You can’t see it and by the time you do … you can’t catch me! Deal with it suckas!”

    I could b.s. about racial stuff/stereotypes with black guys back in the 70s–no one getting upset. It wasn’t some deep secret that we looked, talked, behaved differently. Differences were grist for the mill. But I gather those days are gone. Now after 50+ of minoritarianism as reigning ideology, blacks have copied the Jews prickly sensitivities. If you can assert your minority privilege and push whitey around a bit … why not.

  62. @Flemur
    Andrew Johnson was forced to cut his dreadlocks in order to compete in his high school wrestling match.

    ... and the ref who correctly followed the rules about hair length was suspended for two years and the rules changed to accommodate dreadlocks.

    Wrestler Andrew Johnson Wanted Permanent Ban For Ref … For Dreadlock Cutting

    “The high school wrestler who was forced to cut his dreadlocks before a wrestling match is happy the referee behind the incident was punished…but his attorney tells TMZ Sports the guy should be BANNED for LIFE.”

    “The wrestler’s attorney, Dominic Speziali, tells TMZ Sports Johnson and his family “welcome” the punishment and call it a win “for the progress of civil rights in New Jersey”… but feel it could have been more significant.”

    https://www.tmz.com/2019/09/19/wrestler-andrew-johnson-happy-referee-suspended-dreadlock-incident/

  63. This is funny, coming from a guy whose head is bald as an eight-ball.

    (Whoops! Did I write “eight-ball”?)

  64. @Jack D
    Legally speaking at least, this is not true. As a matter of law, we can choose to prohibit discrimination for certain reasons (race, religion, color) and allow employers and others free rein to discriminate for other reasons that are not legally prohibited (skill level, appearance, etc.) Under our system, that which is not prohibited is permitted so if you want to add something to the list (e.g. hair style) you need a special law for that, such as Booker is proposing. Either such a law will be approved by a majority of both houses of Congress and signed into law by the President or it won't. If it is, it reflects the will of the people that private property is not sacrosanct, especially in the case of certain spaces such as retail businesses that are open to and impact the general public.

    The idea that the government has no power to interfere with private business decisions in order to substitute its judgment left the station a LONG time ago, maybe around the time that Plessy's train left the depot. If you recall the background of that case, Plessy (7/8 white, 1/8 black) wanted to sit in the "whites only" car. The operators of the railroad wanted to let him sit there (it cost money to run twice as many cars). But the government of the State of Louisiana told them how to run their business and the Supreme Court said that was OK. Like a lot of decisions (like importing black people in the first place) the white people of America did not play the chess game a sufficient number of moves ahead. Short term results were more important than matters of principle . Principles are like virginity - once you have given them way, you can't take them back.

    Legally speaking at least, this is not true. As a matter of law, we can choose to prohibit discrimination for certain reasons (race, religion, color) and allow employers and others free rein to discriminate for other reasons that are not legally prohibited (skill level, appearance, etc.

    Agreed.

    As a matter of law, you can–in theory–do whatever you want, that’s not contrary to the Constitution (and you can choose judges to work around that). Our Founders did not even contemplate the level of intrusion of the state we have–even the bullying British state didn’t tell people whom to hire or whom to serve–into private affairs, so they didn’t write in freedom of association in. So, write whatever bullying law you want.

    But–my point–as a matter of ideology, once you accept the minoritarian ethos there is no natural stop. It’s just politics. So the contention is inherently endless. If you can get traction for your whine … the reigning minoritarian ideology supports you. You are a put-upon minority and “Discrimination is wrong!”

    So you have stuff like trannies–which i couldn’t even conceive of as a real thing ten years ago–with real traction. You’ve got fat acceptance in the wings. You have the whole muzzie female dress–and accomodation for norms (female swim hours at your pool, etc.) continuously percolating. And Booker is right: Blacks and whites don’t have the same hair. It’s a lot more work for a black gal to meet some sorta white girl hair style. That’s not fair! Someone requiring white adjacent grooming norms is … discriminating! Which is true. And under minoritarianism “discrimination is wrong!”

    As i said:

    Or people are not free, and the state is omni-present, bossing people around to “protect” the “rights” of whatever minority has managed to push their “rights” forward and harness state power to their cause. And life is endless unpleasant contention and endless harassment of normal (majority) people wanting to live according to their norms and culture.

  65. @captflee
    Reg,

    As a fellow alumnus (QM on two WLBs) of Uncle Sam's Confused Group (although the sobriquet when I enlisted was "the Israeli Navy"), I too was appalled when the brass shit canned the beards, though less so than when they went from dungarees and chambray shirts to those god-awful blue 10,000% polyester uniforms, which were damned near an existential health threat to wear in the wheelhouse during GOMEX summers, not to mention at anytime in engineering spaces.

    That razor bump thing is no joke. You have my sympathy there...

    though less so than when they went from dungarees and chambray shirts to those god-awful blue 10,000% polyester uniforms

    That’s all I ever wore. Dungarees is what we called them during the Nixon Administration, the last time I wore them. At least in blue.

    I was a QM, too, which is probably why I post so many charts maps in the comments.


  66. they don’t have these issues in african countries, which is where these annoying, endlessly complaining people belong.

    these people, who are totally dependent on european western civilization, will be harping forever that everything is not 100% to their satisfaction.

    time for a stark choice. give up european civilization and go live among africans, where you don’t have to worry about your hair, or shut up about your stupid hair, and all your other inane, asinine, grating complaints.

  67. So…if I get a crew cut at a shortish length, and then shave out the message “OK2BWHITE” on the side of my head, is that protected under Presisent Bookers signature legislation?

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