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“Ninety five percent of your murders, and murderers, and murder victims, fit one M.O. You can just take the description, Xerox it, and pass it up to all the cops. They are male, minority, sixteen to twenty-one. That’s true in New York, that’s true in virtually every city in the union. And that’s where the real crime is, you’ve got to get the guns out of the hands of the people that are getting killed. So you got to be wondering, spend the money, put a lot of cops in the street. Put those cops where the crime is, which means in the minority neighborhoods. So one affect, one of the unintended consequences is, people say, Oh my God, your arresting kids for marijuana, they’re all minorities. Yes that’s true. Why, because we put all the cops in the minority neighborhoods, yes that’s true. Why we do it? Because that’s where all the crime is. And the way you should get the guns out of the kids hands is to throw them against the wall and, and frisk them. Then they start, they say I don’t want to, I don’t want to get caught. They may still have a gun, but they leave it at home.”

 
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  1. In comparison to Blacks, how crime-prone are Puerto Ricans and Dominicans?

    What are the important cultural differences between them and Blacks?

  2. indocon says:

    Could this spectacle be any better to watch for our side?

  3. I’m not a big fan of Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968), “stop and frisk,” and the cops’ inherent 4th Amendment violations under 42 USC sec. 1983 (a.k.a., the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871), without any reasonable suspicion of criminality afoot.

    William O. Douglas wrote the dissent:

    We hold today that the police have greater authority to make a ‘seizure’ and conduct a ‘search’ than a judge has to authorize such action. We have said precisely the opposite over and over again.[16]

    To give the police greater power than a magistrate is to take a long step down the totalitarian path. Perhaps such a step is desirable to cope with modern forms of lawlessness. But if it is taken, it should be the deliberate choice of the people through a constitutional amendment.[17]

    But I will admit that when Giuliani implemented the policy, and Bloomberg continued the policy, crime went down drastically. Stop and frisk works as a method of gun confiscation. But I fear that Terry has been a slippery slope since 1968.

    Were there any Monell violations as a result of the Giuliani and Bloomberg policies? (Monell v. Department of Social Services, 436 U.S. 658 (1978)).

    How do you value your constitutional norms with the respect for the 4th Amendment on one hand, and reasonably excuse cops for “pat downs” to obtain weapons to keep down the murder rate in the ghettoes on the other hand?

  4. Anonymous[913] • Disclaimer says:

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    , @e
  5. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @JohnnyWalker123

    What are the important cultural differences between them and Blacks?

    Puerto Ricans and Dominicans eat different foods and listen to different music than African Americans, though there’s overlap. Both Puerto Ricans and Dominicans listen to reggaeton, which is awful, and they both eat mofongo, which is awful.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Clyde
  6. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @indocon

    If Bloomberg makes it to the general election, this leak (if that’s what it is) will actually help him.

  7. Bloomberg had video of speech blocked.

    Might makes right! That’s not all he’s going to have blocked.

    you’ve got to get the guns out of the hands of the people that are getting killed.

    Or, perhaps out of the hands of the people doing the killing?

    So one affect, one of the unintended consequences is, people say, Oh my God, your arresting kids

    This transcript was designed to give our own Reg C. a heart attack.

    • Replies: @bomag
  8. Bill P says:

    Bloomberg campaign slogan:

    “Throw them against the wall and frisk them”

    It would probably be more popular among democrat voters than people think.

    • Replies: @bomag
  9. Proximity to diversity educates people on who actually commits crime. We need more Somalis in Minnesota and Maine. All the White enclaves need enough diversity to get the message.

  10. FPD72 says:

    It would seem that the mayor is familiar with the adage: “95% of the murders in NYC are committed by blacks and Hispanics; the rest are on Law and Order.”

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Forbes
  11. CJ says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Agree strongly. It would likely help him to get the actual video of him saying it out there. Russian hackers could be blamed. It would be the realest real talk of the campaign.

  12. Anon[737] • Disclaimer says:

    He seems reality based. That might work in a president. I’d be willing to pay a soda pop tax if he applied this kind of approach to immigration.

    • Replies: @houston 1992
    , @Mr. Anon
    , @Ragno
    , @e
  13. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are both mulattos, although PRs have some Amerind admixture, making them mostly technically zambos. Both nations have a whiter, relatively well behaved elite and a crummy underclass.But in the US we tend to get the least desirable Puerto Ricans, where as the Dominicans we get are sort of in the middle.

    Since any and all PRs can come here but Dominicans have to have a little on the ball, we definitely have more Dominicans percentagewise who are fairly decent. I get along fine with the better class of Dominican whereas I avoid PRs like the plague I have found them mostly to be.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    , @anonymous
  14. AP says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    In comparison to Blacks, how crime-prone are Puerto Ricans and Dominicans?

    African-American homicide rate is about 8 times higher than the Euro-American homicide rate. Puerto-Rican homicide rate is about 2-3 times higher than the Euro-American one.

    Adventurous or “tough” white people can live in Puerto-Rican neighborhoods. In Chicago sone hipsters and Ukrainian construction workers live in the Humboldt Park neighborhood, for example (it borders Ukrainian Village but is a lot cheaper). This is not true of most of Detroit, or the South Side.

  15. JimB says:

    Obviously, Bloomberg is not ready for prime time as a Democrat, but if he runs as a third party candidate he will harm Trump. Arguably, with Bloomberg in the race Trump loses no matter whom the Democrats nominate.

  16. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:

    We need more Somalis in Minnesota and Maine.

    Nah. We need more Somalis on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. Also the Upper East Side near the 2nd Avenue subway (still under construction). Those spacious and tasteful apartment buildings need to be integrated, not segregated. For a start, every one of them should have a Haitian or Somali doorman, every one. Stop the racism! Stop the hate! Embrace the different!

    Think of the great new restaurants!

    All the White enclaves need enough diversity to get the message.

    Totally agree with that. Especially the enclaves full of (((fellow white people))), they really, really need some diversity. Now more than ever.

  17. @Dave Pinsen

    It kills his chance in the primaries though, look at the language used in that post; his racist, classist, past, problematic explanation, this is just the beginning of the attacks he will face unless he wants to go the Perot route and run without a party.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  18. Using “Xerox” as a verb … how quaint.

    Say, how is Xerox doing these days? Let me consult my Quotron … oh, wait.

    Of course, back when Bernie Sanders was young, they didn’t have any of those newfangled photocopiers. All they had were mimeograph machines. And they were glad to have them!

    • LOL: Old Prude
    • Replies: @guest
    , @ScarletNumber
  19. @RichardTaylor

    We need more Somalis in Minnesota and Maine. All the White enclaves need enough diversity to get the message.

    Didn’t work in Minnesota. The blacks who came from Chicago did way more damage than those who came from Mogadishu.

    But, hey, they can teach us all about Jews. Not that they know any.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    , @Hibernian
  20. If Bloomberg ran for President based on the policies on which he governed New York City, he would likely win as he would be running to the right of Trump (another right wing New York City Democrat).

    Instead, Bloomberg will run an apology tour and who knows what policies he will implement.

    • Replies: @vhrm
  21. @Unladen Swallow

    I wouldn’t be so sure of that. NAMs tend to be low-info voters, and blacks are already swinging from Biden to Bloomberg:

  22. @Reg Cæsar

    Oh I’m guessing Minnesota just needs more enrichment. I believe it’s around 83% White. That needs to drop to at least 70%. White people are a thick-headed lot given to living in fantasy land about race. Especially one of the genders.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    , @MBII
  23. bomag says:
    @Bill P

    …frisk them

    Did he explicitly campaign on stop-and-frisk when running for NYC mayor? Or did he implement/continue the policy sans advertisement?

    • Replies: @David
  24. It’s hard to tell if there are many normies left in the Dem. Primary vote.

    But to normal people, 2015 Bloomie is just talking sense. I mean, if you were a thinking progressive (possibly a contradiction), wouldn’t it occur to you that being for “gun control” means actually enforcing anti-gun laws.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  25. @Dave Pinsen

    … and blacks are already swinging from Biden to Bloomberg

    I think most Blacks vote for whoever they’re told to by their preachers and others who own their vote.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  26. Dissident says:

    Mr. Sailer, FYI: There appears to be something wrong with the PayPal link that now appears at the bottom of each of your posts. Clicking on it leads to the URL
    https://www.paypal.com/webapps/shoppingcart/error?flowlogging_id=ecdc88cbac63c&code=AMOUNT_ERROR
    where the following message is displayed:

    Things don’t appear to be working at the moment. Please try again later.

    This would appear to be a problem specific to your link; Ilana Mercer’s, for example, seems to work.

  27. Anonymous[358] • Disclaimer says:

    “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act”.

  28. Abe says:

    Ninety five percent of your murders, and murderers, and murder victims, fit one M.O. You can just take the description, Xerox it, and

    And, and… pass it around in the same stationery you went halfsies on with Mitt and which in his case will be holding those “files and files of women”? All those millions spent on TV and radio and the only thing to show for it is now you’re annoying enough to warrant your own oppo squad. Get Romney’d, b!tch!

  29. bomag says:
    @Mr McKenna

    Might makes right! That’s not all he’s going to have blocked.

    Reminds me that progressive/left politics are about who gets to run the police state, with an emphasis on speech/thought control. They know very well the power of propaganda.

    For that matter, the ghetto is an ersatz police state, with lots of emphasis on propaganda. Black Lives Matter was a way to shift power from the traditional police to the ghetto police.

    • Replies: @Aldon
    , @Kronos
  30. nebulafox says:

    Whether it is Bloomberg or Sanders, I predict the modern version of the church ladies are going to be extremely angry. No matter what either man does, their past betrays their less-than-ideologically pure pasts.

    • Replies: @SFG
    , @BB753
    , @Kronos
  31. Clyde says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Both Puerto Ricans and Dominicans listen to reggaeton, which is awful, and they both eat mofongo, which is awful.

    I has shrimp mofongo once and didn’t like it. Put it in front of me today and I would eat it. Mofongo is made with fried green immature bananas and plantains as the starch base. Why would anyone eat bananas green, when they are not yet sweet? The answer is very simple. I will send a $10,000 cheek or via bitcoin to anyone who gets this right.

    Bloomie is the only one who can beat Trump. He is Trump’s biggesy threat but must get through the primaries full of skilled saboteurs.. Bloomie born in working class, Jew heavy Malden Massachusetts. I think raised there too. Malden is Chinese now.

  32. guest says:
    @petit bourgeois

    I want not only reasonable suspicion, but an actual warrant signed by a judge before they stop me. But that’s just me.

    Look, isn’t stop n frisk basically the same as airport security or road checkpoints? They don’t need no suspicion let alone reasonable suspicion to pull over potential drunks or grope people for opaque shampoo bottles.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @animalogic
    , @Mr. Anon
  33. guest says:
    @RichardTaylor

    Frankly, I’d just be happy to thin the crowd out here in Somaliland West.

    • Agree: bomag
  34. guest says:
    @Stan Adams

    I imagine Bernie siding with the Bartelbys of the world.

    Scriveners, unite!

  35. snorlax says:
    @Clyde

    Why would anyone eat bananas green, when they are not yet sweet?

    To substitute for plantains.

    • Replies: @Kim
  36. @Clyde

    Why would anyone eat bananas green, when they are not yet sweet?

    Because they’re fresher and have more vitamins or other nutrients?

    • Replies: @Jack D
  37. @Anon

    He will flood the country with with H1 B visa holders probably from the sub-continent as the Establishment has woken up to China.
    Just because his talk revealed a degree of realism about inner city crime does not mean that he wont pursue disarming the main enemy viz rural Whites

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  38. Biden’s people will have to use this as Biden’s lifeline to survival.

    2)in a three-way race, Bloomberg pulls perhaps 10% of Republican voters , but perhaps even more Dems especially if Bernie is allowed to win the nomination. So Bloomberg may help Trump

  39. @Stan Adams

    I don’t know if you did this on purpose but Quotron was put out of its dominant position by Bloomberg.

    The funny thing about Xerox is that, while they are an $8B company, they completely whiffed on the desktop operating system for computers and the mouse.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
  40. Those who lived or worked in New York City when David Dinkins was mayor understands completely why Giuliani and Bloomberg had to do what they did.

    • Replies: @SFG
    , @Kronos
    , @Bugg
  41. Could the President not use the underground video in one of his campaign commericals?

    Show the video and then, “I’m TheRealDonaldTrump, I’m from NY City, and I approved this message.” What’s Bloomberg gonna do then, sue for copyright infringement? The whole this is a real hoot. Stock up on popcorn, as they say.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  42. @petit bourgeois

    How do you value your constitutional norms with the respect for the 4th Amendment on one hand, and reasonably excuse cops for “pat downs” to obtain weapons to keep down the murder rate in the ghettoes on the other hand?

    Bloomberg wouldn’t like it, but one way of reducing the crime rate while respecting constitutional norms would be to liberalize gun carrying permits for law abiding citizens.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  43. @Anonymous

    One of the most brutal murders in NYC in recent years was committed by a Dominican gang that hacked and stabbed a 15 year old in broad daylight with knifes and machetes. There’s CCTV footage of it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  44. Pericles says:
    @anon

    We need more Somalis on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. Also the Upper East Side near the 2nd Avenue subway (still under construction). Those spacious and tasteful apartment buildings need to be integrated, not segregated. … For a start, every one of them should have a Haitian or Somali doorman, every one. Stop the racism! Stop the hate! Embrace the different!

    Furthermore, how diverse are the boards and owners of these buildings? We can easily see there a nasty history of virulent racism in what people are admitted to these places of racial privilege. Changing the doorman does not address the problem.

  45. El Dato says:

    A well-oiled machine, which is also on fire, sinking and being invaded by people from weird lands.

    The Democratic Party is ‘leftwing zombie land,’ says famed strategist James Carville, who preached lots but ignored Tulsi Gabbard

    “Political parties do not exist for factions to gain power over them and lose elections so long as the faction maintains its grip,” Carville wrote in the prestigious Financial Times. “They exist to win elections.”

    In case anyone still had doubts as to who he was referring to, the next paragraph made it crystal clear: “Winning this election is all that matters – and the way to do it is not running some rat race to the furthest reaches of leftwing zombie land.”

    “The Woking Dead?”

    The fact that the Democrats have called upon the Clinton-era strategist for a straight-shooting reality check, tinged with his brutal Southern drawl, points to some real desperation. Since the radical Left surged to power in the 2018 House race, the Democratic reaction to this political ground shift has gone from curiosity and bemusement to pure panic.

    The timing for James Carville, 75, being brought out of academic obscurity [who takes those decisions? does someone go through the rolodex looking for speakers? does James place a call to DNC org?] to lecture the Democratic Party – just days after the Iowa blowout – is conspicuous for exactly the issues he ignored. For a top-rate political strategist, his failure to discuss in any detail how the Democrats completely bungled their first major caucus on the road to Washington, for example, was odd, to say the least.

    Instead, his greatest regret was that Iowa “didn’t attract the record turnout Democrats were expecting. Sirens should be screaming.” Well, sirens were certainly screaming, but for an entirely different reason, of course, and one that Carville had some duty to mention.

    It is important to keep in mind, however, that Bernie Sanders and the Iowa smash-up is not the only major story in Washington, despite the best efforts by the media to pretend that it is. In fact, the story of Sanders being short-changed in Iowa may actually rank second to that of Tulsi Gabbard, who has been essentially exiled to the democratic archipelago without so much as a peep from the media – no surprise since it was the media that exiled her in the first place.

    But more to the point, why is Carville fretting about a ‘red wave’ inundating the Democratic Party when there are moderate candidates, like Tulsi Gabbard, who would never be confused as a socialist? After all, at one point she was polling ahead of three other Democratic contenders, yet her invitation to the debates went missing in the mail. This is certainly not a campaign pitch for Gabbard and her particular brand of politics, but it seems that her voice deserves to be heard just as much as the other contenders. Yet she has been sidelined, and nobody wants to talk about it, not even James Carville.

    • LOL: Kronos
  46. @petit bourgeois

    How do you value your constitutional norms with the respect for the 4th Amendment on one hand, and reasonably excuse cops for “pat downs” to obtain weapons to keep down the murder rate in the ghettoes on the other hand?

    I’d like it if cities could, by referendum, exempt themselves from some parts of the US Constitution. Top on my list: let witnesses submit their testimony by confidential deposition before a judge.

    No it’s not pretty, but we need to recognize that Jefferson and Madison’s system is suited for some but not all societies. (Liberia, for example: it started out with our Constitution!)

    Or to look at the bright side, think of this as a move back toward our Federalist roots. (A move back plus a bit of overshooting, ok.)

  47. @International Jew

    We just need a political PID controller to critically damp that overshoot.
    Unfortunately, I have no idea what that would entail.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  48. @Clyde

    Gut health, to protect from their filthy water.

  49. SFG says:
    @ScarletNumber

    Oh yeah. My parents want to vote for him. Not that it matters–they still live there!

    There used to be quite a few Reagan Democrat types in the outer boroughs, but they’ve long since decamped for Long Island and Jersey.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  50. @petit bourgeois

    “How do you value your constitutional norms with the respect for the 4th Amendment on one hand, and reasonably excuse cops for “pat downs” to obtain weapons to keep down the murder rate in the ghettoes on the other hand?”

    Perhaps we should be asking ourselves is it even fair or humane to hold all different races of people to the same standard of civilized behavior? Whether it was meant to be or not, I think it’s clear that The US Constitution is not a universal document. Some people require intensive local authority in order to adhere to the standards of society; others don’t.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    , @Rob
    , @Mr. Rational
  51. Ed says:
    @Clyde

    Bloomberg can beat Trump? Give me a break. Swing voters are going to vote for a Jewish billionaire that vows to take their guns? I’ll believe it when I see it.

    • Replies: @SFG
    , @bomag
  52. IHTG says:

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
  53. @JohnnyWalker123

    What are the important cultural differences between them and Blacks?

    You misspelled “biological.”

    • LOL: Twodees Partain
  54. @petit bourgeois

    But I will admit that when Giuliani implemented the policy

    I am sure crime would also go down if we all lived in the Panopticon, but that does not make it moral or desirable.

    • Replies: @bomag
  55. dearieme says:

    So this guy (his being a New Yorker, should that be “dis guy”?) is suppressing a recording of the views which suggest that he is unusually well qualified to be Prez of the US?

    Such is life!

  56. @International Jew

    There are plenty of countries you could move to where there is no concept of unalienable rights and no right of an accuser to face his accused or cross-examine witnesses. Why don’t you move to one of those places instead of advocating for creating pockets of totalitarianism within the US?

    • Replies: @bomag
  57. Bloomberg/ Romney 2020

    You read it here first!

    Maybe I’m joking, maybe I’m serious. Even I don’t know.

  58. David says:
    @bomag

    Bloomberg didn’t run on it but he started it. I don’t remember hearing about “stop-and-frisk,” as in doing so without any reasonable suspicion (besides appearance), under Giuliani.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Hibernian
  59. SFG says:
    @Ed

    ‘No guns’ makes sense in New York. It doesn’t make sense most other places.

    Bloomberg was a good mayor of New York. He should have stayed there and enjoyed being a billionaire.

    • Replies: @JimB
  60. I’ve been switching back and forth between CNN and MSNBC all morning and haven’t seen any coverage of this yet. Biden’s on Morning Joe and he hasn’t mentioned it either. The media is very careful here. Suggests they see Bloomberg as their boy. Or maybe it’s just that they want to avoid the awkwardness of being forced to admit that nothing Bloomberg said was false.

  61. JMcG says:
    @petit bourgeois

    It’s a difficult question. I’ve never had a Terry stop, but I work odd hours which can lead to driving home in the wee small hours of the morning. I don’t think I’ve ever been as angry as when I’ve been stopped at DUI checkpoints. Jumped-up state troopers loudly demanding to know where I’m coming from really boil my blood. I’m always secretly hoping to see some partisans jump up from a ditch with stem guns roaring.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    , @YetAnotherAnon
  62. @David

    I talked to an NYPD cop in the early 2000s. He seemed really leery about stop-and-frisk as a general policy. Said you needed really well-trained cops to pull it off.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  63. JMcG says:
    @JMcG

    That was meant to be “Sten” guns of course.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    , @Hunsdon
  64. bob sykes says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    A substantial fraction of Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are black.

  65. @Paleo Liberal

    So Pierre Delecto could bring say 10 percentage points and Bloomberg 15 points. …. so 25% but Trump will hold 40% and Bernie 35% …. Iow do you see that ticket stopping Trump ?

  66. @guest

    “Look, isn’t stop n frisk basically the same as airport security or road checkpoints? ”
    No, they’re not. They are narrow instances. The airport example gives people a choice whether to use the facility (& thus, submit to the search) Both (hopefully) warranted by special circumstances.
    Stop & frisk is open ended & without real limits. The concept, inherent to the common law, of “reasonableness” does not enter this legal equation.

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @guest
    , @bomag
    , @Aldon
  67. Anon[231] • Disclaimer says:

    Most gun crime is committed by white males.

    Get on twitter and you will see that People of Color and women agree

    That tells you something right there

    • LOL: Sol
    • Replies: @fish
  68. @Achmed E. Newman

    That was supposed to be “commercials”. I’ll just blame it on spell-chick.

    “The whole thing is a real hoot.” Grammer chik.

  69. Kim says:
    @snorlax

    there are different varieties of bananas that are consumed in various ways. green bananas are fried to make a crispy savory snack. lots of cuisines also eat unripe papaya (thai and Indonesian for example) and mango as salads. it isn’t unusual. green papaya is a strong source of protein-digestive enzymes. by green papaya what is actually meant
    is unripe, white-flesh papaya. many types of papaya are ripe/orange-fleshed while still being green-skinned.

  70. @International Jew

    Respectfully, that’s not at all moving toward our Federalist roots, I.J. The Constitution is (supposed to be) the Law of the Land. If any jurisdiction can supersede it, than it is worthless. NYC can secede. That’d be fine. Nobody’s got a gun to it’s head, and nobody in his right mind would start a war about that one – rather we’d send paperwork all in order and ready for the signatures!

  71. Barnard says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    He has already flip flopped on it. Doesn’t it make it more an issue like the Iraq war was for John Kerry? No one will trust him.

  72. @Dr. Krieger

    Once you set foot on the Bode Plot, you’d best set cher mind to working, son.

    Old control theory/United Negro College Fund joke, hope it didn’t fall flat – it’s a niche audience.

    How ’bout the one with the crash of the Polish jetliner? (Do you know that one, Dr. Krieger?)

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  73. countenance says: • Website

    The grand irony is this: Bloomberg is trying to hide it, but he would be way more politically viable if he shouted it from the rooftops.

    • Agree: fish
    • Replies: @Ian Smith
    , @Anonymous
  74. Ian Smith says:
    @countenance

    The BLM narrative is sacred even to centrist Democrats; this will tank Bloomberg.

    • Replies: @countenance
    , @Ximenes
  75. I note that Bloomberg in his TV ads (in heavy rotation in Texas) is shamelessly implying that Obama has endorsed him. Obama hasn’t complained, a negative fact that suggests prior consent.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    , @Thomas
  76. Stephen says:

    wth I love Mike Bloomberg now???

  77. @petit bourgeois

    How do you value your constitutional norms with the respect for the 4th Amendment on one hand, and reasonably excuse cops for “pat downs” to obtain weapons to keep down the murder rate in the ghettoes on the other hand?

    That’s the problem. You can’t really have both Constitutional rights and “diversity.”

  78. @JMcG

    I think I was first stopped aged 18 at university, got in on a late train and was walking 6 miles out of the city at midnight with a large bag to where I lived – they wanted to see what was in it.

    On the other hand even UK police are a lot more obnoxious these days when they stop people. Here’s a famous ex-footballer being pulled in for DUI. Maybe its Ok for the US, but by Brit standards they are damn rude.

    • Replies: @dearieme
  79. … you’ve got to get the guns out of the hands of the people that are getting killed.

    So, it’s a frameup of dead minority victims?

  80. Arclight says:

    I think Bloomberg gets away with this – he has enough money to last past the SC and NV primaries while Biden and Warren fade out of the picture. Bernie and Buttigieg might attack him, but I think the Dem establishment is worried enough about their prospects this fall with either of those two as the nominee that they will work behind the scenes to keep various groups/politicians who would be inclined to go after him leashed so he remains viable.

    The establishment clearly doesn’t want Bernie to get the nomination, and probably has pretty severe concerns about black turnout with Buttigieg at the top of the ticket. Older white Dems are not bothered by stop and frisk, and a gay nominee is a bigger problem than stop and frisk would be with older black Dems as well.

    Bloomberg/Klobuchar?

  81. @JohnnyWalker123

    What are the important cultural differences between them and Blacks?

    Dominican women are prettier than Black and PR women, in general.

    • Replies: @captflee
  82. @JMcG

    Ach, I had an image of Trekkie types pointing phasers based on Texas Instruments -84 calculators.

  83. guest says:
    @animalogic

    Is the “choice” to use airport travel really narrower than choosing to live in a city and walk its streets? Air travel is a fairly common part of modern living.

    What are these special circumstances? The threat of terror! Which now exists Forevermore, unto the Ending of Time Itself.

    What is this “reasonableness” regarding highway checkpoints? How narrow is its scope? What is this drunk driving threat compared to shooting murder! How unreasonable can stop n frisk be given the apparent result?

    • Agree: ben tillman
  84. Anonymous[289] • Disclaimer says:
    @SFG

    Not so con-Genial Harpies, more like.

  85. Perhaps because of the problematic explanation he gives for #StopAndFrisk

    Problematic because it’s true and hurts feelings.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • LOL: bomag
  86. bomag says:
    @Cloudbuster

    There are plenty of countries you could move to where there is no concept of unalienable rights and no right of an accuser to face his accused or cross-examine witnesses. Why don’t you move to one of those places…

    And those countries are moving here, setting up their ethnic networks that freeze out other citizens; moves our politics leftward toward an overweening state; abides sanctuary cities; now the “new way forward” bill is working its way through Congress, making crime a civil right for immigrants. Our current state is quite adept at alienating us from our rights.

    • Agree: Cloudbuster
    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  87. @Hypnotoad666

    “But to normal people, 2015 Bloomie is just talking sense.”

    Apparently, though, now he has come to his senses…….

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  88. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Ricans are more quality of life crimes. When youre around ricans alot your quality of life sucks.

  89. Dr. X says:
    @petit bourgeois

    It’s not just a Fourth Amendment issue here. Bloomberg’s policy is not only to search people without warrants, but to ban guns outright. And in New York that applies to white people as well as blacks.

    • Replies: @Anonymouse
  90. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @countenance

    The Trump paradox ?

  91. @El Dato

    “Tulsi Gabbard, who would never be confused as a socialist?”

    That’s funny. I had her pegged as a socialist from her website, before she cleaned it up to draw a little bit of a line between her and the rest of the socialists running for the nomination. Do you think that socialists can’t be anti-war? On that point, she isn’t really antiwar. She would, of course, make a case for any war that benefits Israel, bet on it.

  92. bomag says:
    @animalogic

    The airport example [is limited]… Stop & frisk is open ended & without real limits.

    Okay, but the gov’t often compels universal behavior for the greater good: taxes; eminent domain; military service.

  93. @Clyde

    In a poll the liberal SJW base will indicate preference for anyone over Trump. What they won’t do is turn out on election day for the ultimate Wall Street insider billionaire New York Jew. Where do you suppose the BDS crowd stands on Bloomberg? Or the dregs of Occupy? While Bloomberg may poll above Trump until election day (“likely voters”), it would be a rehash of 2016’s slaughter (“the horror! – how could the polls be so wrong?!”).

    Similarly, blacks obviously won’t vote for a homosexual and women won’t vote for Sanders. Sanders can now fairly be described as having had a major role in sinking aging Boomer gals’ two best chances at seeing one of their own in the White House in their lifetimes. The resentment runs deep.

    Dems best shot is Biden/Pete. Biden will get the blacks out, who will be mostly unaware that Pete will take over when Biden croaks. Pete is willing to “go to bat” for the power players. So this ticket is something all Dems can get behind.

    Biden is fading fast. If they’re going to steal this primary for him, they’d better get moving. Probably the Dems as an organization have already given up on 2020, and are positioning to inflict maximum political damage 20-24 instead.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @fish
  94. Pericles says:

    OT: I’ve been reading the collective freakout of baseball journalism about Boston trading Mookie Betts rather than keeping him one more year after which he departs in free agency anyway. (Not to mention sending David Price with him.) Best talent evar, how could they do this to us, owners be DUMB, etc etc.

    Yet nobody is mentioning that Boston is still under investigation for cheating in 2018 and the axe hasn’t fallen yet. Firing/mutualing Alex Cora was after all just a first step to create some separation, not the punishment.

    Boston appears to have hired the bench coach as the next team manager, presumably in the hope that he won’t be tainted too. But maybe Boston’s owners view 2020 as a lost year anyway, in which case dumping a lot of salary might well be the smart thing to do. For instance, what if Mookie Betts is mentioned explicitly in the coming MLB report? Now a trade doesn’t look so bad.

  95. bomag says:
    @Ed

    Agree. Northeastern liberals don’t do well nationally; Trump being an exception, but he was up against someone who was trying too hard to be a Northeastern liberal.

  96. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anon

    He seems reality based. That might work in a president. I’d be willing to pay a soda pop tax if he applied this kind of approach to immigration.

    He won’t. Have you seen his ads? (And how could you not? They’re plastered all over TV, YouTube, maybe even in fortune cookies.) His latest ones feature Statue Of Liberty (SOL) kitsch. If he is elected, we’ll all be SOL.

    Bloomberg wants to throw everyone up against a wall and frisk them. Mike will get it done – yeah, by violating all your Constitutional liberties and gutting whatever remain of the traditions and culture of this country. He is a would-be tyrant.

  97. Mr. Anon says:
    @guest

    Look, isn’t stop n frisk basically the same as airport security or road checkpoints?

    Airport security, as conducted today, and DUI checkpoints are also violations of the 4th amendment. I would argue that if you are searching everyone that is inherently not “reasonable”.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  98. BB753 says:
    @nebulafox

    Do black church ladies still exist? Youngish ones, I mean.

  99. @RichardTaylor

    They know. It’s why abortion is a sacrament to them – population control for blacks. Gun control is about keeping guns away from blacks. Every prog policy is about hosing blacks with plausbile deniability.

    Now, the Edina kids don’t know, but that’s why they need the prog indoctrination good and hard.

    • Agree: Kronos
  100. @Mr. Anon

    Which, it doesn’t really need to be said, would be very, very bad for the Jews.

  101. Mr. Anon says:

    Why does Bloomberg always remind me of Ben Gazzara’s character in Roadhouse?

  102. @Alan Mercer

    Biden is dead.

    The scenario you’re painting is Klobuchar.

  103. Art Deco says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Home islands have quite high homicide rates – they bounce around a set point of 16 to 25 per 100,000. Problem more pronounced in Puerto Rico than in the Dominican Republic as a rule, I believe.

  104. teotoon says:
    @Clyde

    Why would anyone eat bananas green, when they are not yet sweet? The answer is very simple.

    the green banana’s starch adds bulk to slow down the intestines and add bulk to the feces. I am short 4ft. of intestine and make use of slightly green bananas (3 a day) to control the frequency of bowel movements.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  105. Alfa158 says:
    @Anonymouse

    Tom Steyer is doing the same thing. He even goes him one better in a radio ad by having a Sassy Black Lady Activist (mmhhmmm) presenting the implied Obama endorsement.

    • Replies: @Anonymouse
  106. Kronos says:
    @nebulafox

    The voted/supported Bill Clinton despite his “transgressions” against women. They’ve supported far worse for the “greater good.”

    • Replies: @fish
  107. Neuday says:
    @Clyde

    Why would anyone eat bananas green, when they are not yet sweet? The answer is very simple. I will send a $10,000 cheek or via bitcoin to anyone who gets this right.

    Because it’s better to eat an unripe banana today than for someone else eat the ripe banana tomorrow. High time-preference for the k-selected win!

    • Agree: Coemgen
    • Replies: @Clyde
  108. JimB says:
    @SFG

    Bloomberg was a good mayor of New York. He should have stayed there and enjoyed being a billionaire.

    Was he? Remember the guy who preceded him? Bloomberg was a chair-warmer mayor who took over from Giuliani after Giuliani got cancer. Giuliani was the guy who saved NYC from the street mayhem permitted by Dinkins and prior Democrat mayors. Bloomberg just continued Giuliani’s policies, more or less. I don’t see him as a particularly creative or inspiring politician or leader. He hates Trump and plans to spend 2 billion dollars to block his re-election. Those are his a bonafides in this election

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Replies: @SFG
  109. Art Deco says:
    @Desiderius

    They know. It’s why abortion is a sacrament to them – population control for blacks.

    Blacks are not a particularly fecund population (their tfr is 2.1 children per woman per lifetime). Abortion is more frequent among blacks than among whites (by 2.7x), but the net effect of the difference is to reduce the black share of live births from about 15% to about 12%.

    I’ve some pro-abortion fanatics in my family and I’ve never heard one of them refer to this. I did hear a innumerate one recycle the argument that pro-lifers were against abortion to keep up the white share of the population. It took some explaining to get her to understand that a necessary condition for that to work would be that whites made more frequent use of abortion than do blacks or hispanics, which they did not and do not. I didn’t really succeed because the pro-abortion dispensation, when it’s not frankly gruesome (see the remarks of Barbara Ehrenreich) is emotions driven. Highly willful emoting women don’t run the numbers.

  110. dearieme says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    They were rude, weren’t they? No need for that.

    I did laugh at how drunk he was, mind.

    There is an evident flaw in the procedure: how is someone clearly drunk meant to understand high-speed explanations from the policeman?

    • Replies: @fnn
  111. “So one affect, one of the unintended consequences is, people say, Oh my God, your arresting kids for marijuana, they’re all minorities.”

    Who the hell transcribed this?

    “Affect?” It’s “effect.”

    “Your” instead of “you’re”?

    Was this dope absent from school the day contractions were taught?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @danand
  112. Anonymous[183] • Disclaimer says:

    Black American violent crime rates are an anomaly by international standards. Blacks in Europe are statistically more violent than whites, but not anywhere near as disproportionately so as in the US, same goes for blacks in Latin America.

    Blacks are a problem to a certain extent everywhere there are large numbers of them, but the extreme and disproportionate problems the US has with black ghettos seems to be a unique issue.

    • Disagree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @ben tillman
    , @fnn
  113. @petit bourgeois

    No one cared about murder rates in the ghettoes.

    They cared that the violence spilled out into the general population, on the streets, in parks, and especially the subways.

    Life in NYC during the high crime years was a nerve-wracking dystopian nightmare.

    NYC never led the country in murder rates. It did lead the country in “stranger to stranger” crime. Most of the time murderers know each other.

  114. @Art Deco

    This source says the TFR among blacks is almost 1.8:

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/226292/us-fertility-rates-by-race-and-ethnicity/

    i.e., below replacement level.

    It’s even below replacement level among Hispanics.

    Given that many Hispanics are phenotypically white and intermarry with whites, and some are phenotypically black and intermarry with blacks, I believe that in 50 years the US population will look pretty much the way it does now.

    How they self-identify is another matter. Race may not be a social construct, but self-identified ethnicity on a census is.

  115. Kronos says:
    @ScarletNumber

    But do their kids understand the secret truth?

    I strongly suspect many liberal parents would rather die than have the “Santa Claus isn’t real” talk about racial-IQ differences and the (current) impossibility of racial equality.

  116. fish says:
    @Anon

    Ohs TinysAnon……

    Dey you go agin…..wit dat crazy talk.

    • Agree: MEH 0910
  117. Barnard says:
    @Art Deco

    Right, population control of blacks was a motivation for Margaret Sanger, but today’s emotive woman just cares about how it impacts her personally. They have no interest in the impact on the population.

  118. My crazy like a fox theory is that Bloomberg himself was the leak of his Aspen Inst. “young black men with guns” speech, for political reasons. While it will make Official Blackdom upset, it will play much better among grass roots older black voters.

    • Replies: @Thea
    , @Anonymous
    , @NOTA
  119. @Dave Pinsen

    But that will change when Bloomberg really enters the race and the other D’s turn their guns at him.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  120. @Ian Smith

    It will tank Bloomberg among BLM, but I think what Bloomberg said at Aspen will be pretty popular among older black voters. I’m starting to think that Bloomberg himself was the leaker, therefore.

  121. @Alfa158

    Who listens to the radio except when driving? As I said, Bloomberg is blanketing all the major TV networks in Texas (and probably in many other states) at dinner time. Steyer apparently doesn’t have that kind of money. And Bloomberg’s poll ratings are rising fast.

  122. fish says:
    @Alan Mercer

    Sanders can now fairly be described as having had a major role in sinking aging Boomer gals’ two best chances at seeing one of their own in the White House in their lifetimes.

    Bernie Sanders……Instrument of God!

  123. fish says:
    @Kronos

    They voted/supported Bill Clinton despite his “transgressions” against women.

    Back when we were a little less crazy!

    So todays “new” American is supposed to enthusiastically get behind a white New York Billionaire with #metoo problems to defeat another white New York Billionaire with #metoo problems.

    Hmmmmm?

    • Replies: @Kronos
  124. @Jane Plain

    “Your arresting…” could be a synonym for “Your arrest of… ” So the transcriber has an escape hatch here. But it implies that Bloomberg, a publisher, goes around spouting unfinished sentences.

    • Replies: @Jane Plain
  125. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Art Deco

    Abortion is about women not bearing beta male spawn and being ruined so to speak. Hence the desire for post birth abortion up to age ten.

    Women … Hate hate hate beta males. That’s all abortion is in the end.

  126. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    ‘Minorities’?

    Jews? Hindus?

    Stop and Frisk the minority:

  127. Perhaps because of the problematic explanation he gives for #StopAndFrisk

    Problematic = true but hurts feelings.

  128. @Dave Pinsen

    I’ll believe that black voters will go for Bloomberg when I see it, neither Iowa or New Hampshire have many of them. South Carolina should be a good test, but Bloomberg like Sanders is Jewish, that’s two strikes against him right there among black voters.

  129. bomag says:
    @Cloudbuster

    As Bloomberg and anyone else of slight public focus are discovering, there are plenty of panopticonic minders gleefully watching all moves, and reminding them of past utterances.

  130. NYC’s “stop and frisk” policy was a component of James Q. Wilson’s broken glass theory of keeping law and order. Mr. Wilson, one of America’s greatest social scientists, is being memory holed for the crime of being right.

  131. @Dr. X

    Perhaps you are unaware of the Sullivan Law which applies only to NYC not to the rest of New York state which makes it illegal to own small arms unless you get a permit difficult to obtain unless you’re in a special category like a celebrity.

    • Replies: @Dr. X
  132. @petit bourgeois

    How do you value your constitutional norms with the respect for the 4th Amendment on one hand, and reasonably excuse cops for “pat downs” to obtain weapons to keep down the murder rate in the ghettoes on the other hand?

    LOL the Constitution applies to non free white males under 21 years of age.

    And be it further enacted, That no slave or mulatto whatsoever, shall keep or carry any gun, powder, shot, club or other weapon whatsoever, offensive or defensive, but all and every gun weapon and ammunition found in the possession or custody of any negro or mulatto, may be seized by any person, and upon due proof thereof made before any justice of the peace of the district where such seizure shall be, shall by his order be forfeited to the seizor, for his own use, and moreover every such offender shall have and receive by order of such justice any number of lashes not exceeding thirty-nine on his or her bare back, well laid on for every such offense.

  133. @Anonymous

    Black American violent crime rates are an anomaly by international standards. Blacks in Europe are statistically more violent than whites, but not anywhere near as disproportionately so as in the US . . . .

    I think you’re wrong.

    • Replies: @black sea
  134. great example of the redefinition of racism. Stop and frisk was likely close to racially blind it simply had disparate impact since criminals mostly belong to a few racial groups. Racism has moved from meaning either biased(aka incorrect) views on race or a system that targets people based on group membership to meaning views on race that reflect reality rather than progressive dogma.

    • Agree: Dtbb
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  135. @Dave Pinsen

    Constitutional Carry at the State Level

    From the formation of the 13 original states, Constitutional Carry was law in all states until the 1800s. By the 20th century, all states except Vermont had enacted concealed carry bans, with an exemption in most states for those citizens with a permit.

    Constitutional Carry States:
    Vermont

    For many decades, the only state to allow “Constitutional Carry” of a handgun (i.e. without any government permit) was Vermont.

    Due to its narrowly worded state Constitution, Vermont has never been able to have a restriction on the method of how one could carry a firearm, and thus, in this regard, Vermont stood entirely separate from the rest of the United States for quite some time. Because of this, Constitutional Carry is still often referred to as “Vermont Carry.”1

    Alaska

    On June 11, 2003, Alaska Governor Frank Murkowski signed House Bill 102, which removed the requirement to obtain a concealed weapons permit in order to carry a concealed firearm.2 The bill did this simply by amending the section of law that made carrying a concealed weapon a crime. It made that section apply only to individuals under 21, or to individuals over 21 if they are contacted by a peace officer and fail to inform the officer of possession.

    It is important to remember that if any conduct is not made illegal by law, than it is presumed to be legal. Therefore, decriminalizing Concealed Carry was all that was needed to enact Constitutional Carry. No substantive changes to the concealed weapons permit law were necessary.

    The law went into effect September 9, 2003. Since then incidences of murder, forcible rape, burglary, and theft have all declined in Alaska.

    Arizona

    On April 16, 2010, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer signed Senate Bill 1108 which was very similar to Alaska’s bill.3

    Arizona’s law eliminated the penalties and suspension of permit for failure to carry it, added language requiring the permit to be carried only when one is in actual possession and required to by “any other law” to do so, and added language making misconduct with a weapon by carrying concealed applicable to individuals under 21 instead of any unlicensed individual, thereby decriminalizing unlicensed concealed carry.

    Wyoming

    On March 2, 2011 Wyoming Governor Matt Mead signed SF 47 to allow Constitutional Carry.4

    This simple two page bill added one paragraph, exempting a person who otherwise meets the legal requirements for a permit, and is not otherwise prohibited from possessing a firearm from a ban on carrying concealed firearms.

    Not printed in the text of the bill were the legal requirements that appear in current law. Those requirements include being a U.S. citizen and Wyoming resident for at least six months. That means non-residents cannot carry concealed without a permit recognized by Wyoming.

    Maine

    On July 8, 2015 Maine became a Constitutional Carry state when Governor Paul LePage signed LD 652 into law.5

    This bill simply added language into existing statute that allowed persons not prohibited from owning a gun to have the right to carry concealed without a permit. It also left Maine’s permit system intact.

    Kansas

    In 2015, Kansas Governor Sam Brownback signed SB 45 on April 2, 2015.6 SB 45 amended the laws dealing with the concealed carry of firearms. The bill added language allowing the concealed carry of a firearm without a concealed carry permit issued by the state government.

    As long as the person is not prohibited from possessing a firearm under both state and federal law, they have a right to carry concealed without the need to ask for the state government’s permission.

    West Virginia

    On March 5th, 2016, West Virginia became the seventh state to pass Constitutional Carry, HB 4145, into law.7

    Pro-gun majorities in both houses of the West Virginia Legislature voted to override the veto of anti-gun Governor Earl Ray Tomblin. Permit-less concealed carry took effect on May 26, 2016.

    Idaho

    Governor Butch Otter signed SB 1389, the Constitutional Carry bill, March 24, 2016.8 This legislation says that residents who are 21 and older, and who are legally able to own a firearm, can legally carry that firearm for self-defense, openly or concealed, without a government-issued permission slip. The Idaho Constitutional Carry bill took effect on July 1st, 2016.

    Mississippi

    Constitutional Carry, HB 786, passed the Legislature and was signed into law by Governor Phil Bryant on April 15, 2016; making Mississippi the ninth state to remove the permit requirement for concealed carry.9

    Since July 1st, 2013, open carry has been legal without a permit in Mississippi. However, Mississippians were required to pay a tax to wear a coat while carrying a firearm for self-defense. Under HB 786, permits are now optional for law-abiding gun owners who still wish to carry in other states.

    Missouri

    In May of 2016, SB 656 cleared both chambers of the Missouri General Assembly with an overwhelming margin.10 The bill contained provisions to enact both “Constitutional Carry” and “Stand Your Ground laws.” On June 27, 2016, Governor Nixon vetoed the bill and a veto override session was scheduled. On September 14, 2016, Nixon’s veto was successfully overridden.

    New Hampshire

    Constitutional Carry, SB 12, was signed into law by Governor Chris Sununu on February 22, 2017.11

    SB 12 was a clean Constitutional Carry Bill and cleared both chambers with overwhelming support. Constitutional Carry had passed in the previous legislative cycle but was vetoed by outgoing Governor Hassan. Incoming Governor Sununu had made passage a political priority and it moved through the legislature quickly.

    North Dakota

    North Dakota’s troubled Constitutional Carry bill HB 1169 was signed by Governor Doug Burgum on March 23, 2017 and went into effect on August 1, 2017.12

    The bill, as passed, was murky on the legality of carrying concealed in a vehicle and also contained a North Dakota residency requirement of 1 year before one could carry without a permit. The legality of Constitutional Carry was clarified in an opinion issued by Attorney General Wayne Stenehjem on December 14, 2017 which noted that HB 1169 does allow for carrying loaded firearms in a vehicle. The residency requirement remains.

    South Dakota

    With a pro-gun Governor taking over in 2019, the South Dakota Legislature quickly passed Constitutional Carry, was the first bill signed into law by Gov. Kristi Noem on January 31, 2019.

    SB 47 repealed provisions, which prohibited anyone except law enforcement, from carrying a concealed handgun without a permit, or carrying a concealed handgun in ones car without a permit. It also repealed language which prohibited anyone from carrying a concealed handgun without also possessing their permit to carry a concealed handgun at the same time.

    Oklahoma

    Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt signed Constitutional Carry bill HB 2597 into law on February 27, 2019 after a previous bill was vetoed by former Governor Mary Falin in 2018.

    State Senator Nathan Dahm was critical in the passage of Constitutional Carry in Oklahoma. As it is currently written, Oklahoma’s law does not extend to people under the age of 21.

    Kentucky

    On March 11, 2019 Kentucky became the fifteenth state to pass Constitutional Carry when Governor Mat Bevin signed SB 150 into law.

    Representative Savannah Maddox was crucial to the success of SB 150. Thanks to the relentless activism of its members, Gov. Bevin thanked NAGR by inviting President Dudley Brown to stand alongside during the signing ceremony.

    States Considering Constitutional Carry:

    Multiple states are considering, or likely to consider, Constitutional Carry. NAGR is working with legislators in many states to encourage passage for Constitutional Carry, please sign your unique state petition below to keep up the fight for your rights:
    Michigan
    Tennessee
    Alabama
    Ohio
    Texas

    States Claiming Constitutional Carry, but Don’t Quite Make the Cut:
    Montana

    Residents of Montana are allowed concealed carry without a permit only if they are “a person who is outside the official boundaries of a city or town or the confines of a logging, lumbering, mining, or railroad camp or who is lawfully engaged in hunting, fishing, trapping, camping, hiking, backpacking, farming, ranching, or other outdoor activity in which weapons are often carried for recreation or protection.”

    So, authorization to carry without a permit is restricted to non-populated areas in Montana, therefore not true Constitutional Carry.

    Arkansas

    Arkansas law says no permit is required for carry when a person is traveling outside of his home county. Further it says a permit is not needed a person is not “…carrying a weapon…with a purpose to attempt to unlawfully employ the handgun, knife, or club as a weapon against a person.”

    Unfortunately a prior Attorney General interpreted this to mean carry was illegal and whether or not you meant to use it unlawfully was a matter for trial. The current AG has said otherwise. Since this law is subject to the interpretation of the sitting AG, NAGR does not recognize Arkansas as a Constitutional Carry state.

    https://nationalgunrights.org/about-us/key-issues/constitutional-carry/current-states-which-agree-constitutional-carry-is-the-law-of-the-land/

  136. @Art Deco

    And coders don’t know Assembly.

    There’s no denial so plausible as self-denial. Not needing/wanting to look under the hood is the whole point.

    2.7x

    Surely you’re familiar with the concept of compounding interest. I can assure you that the people scratching the checks that keep abortion sacrosanct are.

  137. fnn says:
    @dearieme

    “No need for that.”

    It’s “There’s no fooking need for that.”

    South Yorkshire police smashing a young football fan in the head from behind yesterday, pic.twitter.com/8yQmi0AtSP— Tony (@Mrtdogg) February 9, 2020

  138. Bloody footprints led to arrest in double homicide in Chinatown over weekend, Chicago police say

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-south-loop-murder-charges-20200211-b4sdoyqthrafhegrq4irkgtx3i-story.html

    Coalition of the Fringes Usual Suspect (Alvin Thomas, South Shore Commuter Criminal)

  139. @Achmed E. Newman

    Okay, I didn’t LOL but I smiled.  Poles in the right half-plane….

  140. @bomag

    And those countries are moving here, setting up their ethnic networks that freeze out other citizens; moves our politics leftward toward an overweening state; abides sanctuary cities; now the “new way forward” bill is working its way through Congress,

    Amen.

    Speaking of bills working their way through a legislature, has anyone else been paying attention to all the gun control bills the VA legislature has been ramming through in the past week or two? Good grief.

    • Replies: @Thomas
    , @J.Ross
  141. @Twodees Partain

    Apparently, though, now he has come to his senses…….

    He got bitten and is now one of The Woking Dead.

    • LOL: Twodees Partain
  142. Jack D says:
    @indocon

    If there was free popcorn?

  143. fnn says:
    @Anonymous

    It’s in the neighborhood of 13/50 in London:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_Kingdom#Race_and_crime_in_London

    Figures from the Office for National Statistics showed that in 2007 an estimated 10.6 percent of London’s population of 7,556,900 were black.[25]…

    In June 2010, through a Freedom of Information Act request, The Sunday Telegraph obtained statistics on accusations of crime broken down by race from the Metropolitan Police Service.[n 2] The figures showed that the majority of males who were accused of violent crimes in 2009–2010 were black. Of the recorded 18,091 such accusations against males, 54 percent accused of street crimes were black; for robbery, 58 percent; and for gun crimes, 67 percent.[27] Robbery, drug use, and gang violence have been associated with black people since the 1960s.[28] In the 1980s and 1990s, the police associated robbery with black people. In 1995, the Metropolitan Police commissioner Paul Condon said that the majority of robberies in London were committed by black people.

  144. @Desiderius

    Gun control is about keeping guns away from blacks.

    I thought it was about disarming Deplorable males?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Desiderius
  145. black sea says:
    @ben tillman

    In England and Wales, Blacks over the age of 10 are 2.7% of the population, but 13.7% of the prison population.

    • Thanks: ben tillman
  146. Dr. X says:
    @Anonymouse

    Unfortunately I am all too familiar with the Sullivan Law, and I’m afraid to say that you’re quite incorrect. It applies to every square inch of the entire state, not just NYC. It is a crime to possess, even on your own property, a handgun without a discretionary government permit and registration with the state. Permisssion to carry in public for self-defense is also discretionary, and if you’re not “somebody” then forget it. Some rural jurisdictions are a bit more lenient on carry but many are not.

    NYC requires the registration of ALL small arms, including long guns, but the rest of the state does not, unless it is an “assault weapon” that was banned permanently in 2014 and you owned it prior to that and registered it.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    , @Bitterclinger
  147. eah says:

    Meanwhile:

    Recognizing patterns in our society is still scandalous.

  148. Jack D says:
    @Lockean Proviso

    Bananas are remarkably not nutritious (but they have good marketing). They have very little protein and are low in most vitamins – 0% of your RDA for Vitamin D and iron, 1% of your RDA for Vitamin A, etc. Even for the things they are touted as having (e.g. potassium), you’d have to eat a dozen bananas to get your RDA.

    White potatoes will not grow in tropical areas and so the (green) banana and the plantain fill the same role in tropical diets as the potato does in northern area – a bland, starchy filler that mainly provides calories. Except that potatoes are a little more nutritious than bananas.

    The most remarkable thing about bananas in America is that they have been cheaper than apples since the 19th century despite the fact that apples are locally grown and bananas have to be shipped across the ocean. The “secret” is that banana are grown in places where the workers work for cheap.

  149. @Anonymous

    They watch lots and lots of TV.

  150. Jack D says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    If it was really about blacks then all the efforts would be concentrated on handguns (which is what they use). But Democrats seem to obsess about long guns (“assault weapons”).

    • Replies: @Federalist
  151. SFG says:
    @JimB

    I have *huge* respect for Giuliani. I registered to vote for the first time specifically so I could reelect him–the first time around I was too young.

    He kept crime down and the city actually ran a surplus for a while. He managed to keep the city from cratering economically after 9/11. My old parents had a nice 12 years to live out the end of their careers and retirement.

    (I used to joke it was HBD in action–get the Italian to crack the heads of the bad guys and the Jew to build up the business when the crooks were gone. This was before Social Justice grew like a malignant tumor from the academic left.)

    Bloomberg was for same-sex marriage and immigration. That’s fine for a mayor of New York. Gun control makes sense where everyone lives right by each other and stray bullets are a real concern. New York is not supposed to be like the rest of the country, and the rest of the country is not supposed to be like New York. Every nation has big cities and small towns. The nation has slid too far in the direction of big cities, and now needs to be pulled back in the other direction.

    I’m sure he’d be a competent administrator, and NYC has more people than many states. But he shouldn’t be president.

    • Agree: Lot
    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    , @JimB
    , @Dissident
  152. @The Wild Geese Howard

    Steve’s been over this. You think once they show who’d boss on long guns there’ll be anyone standing in their way on the rest? Hell, the UK’s on to knives and badthink now.

  153. @Jack D

    What are the most nutritious fruits?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Autochthon
  154. Thea says:
    @countenance

    Interesting. If Bloomberg is as smart as he seems he will follow Trump’s example of “it doesn’t matter what you write about me, just spell my name right.”

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @countenance
    , @Dtbb
  155. eah says:
    @Desiderius

    Gun control is about keeping guns away from blacks.

    In Chicago, 181 people have been shot this year. That is 32 more than 2019. Data through Monday, February 3

    Per this more up-to-date site –> HeyJackass! — Illustrating Chicago Values, 5 people have been shot and killed in Chicago just this week, 17 in Feb, 45 total so far in 2020 — as of this moment (these things can change fast in Chicago), total number shot & wounded this year is almost 200 (187) — assuming you don’t live in Chicago, have you heard about a single one of these shootings? — any vocal, national calls for gun control as a result of shootings in Chicago? — or as a result of the drumbeat of (mostly) black-on-black shootings in any other murderous American urban shithole?

    Unglaublich.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  156. @Jack D

    Yes and the “assault rifles” are almost always purchased/owned by white men. “Gun control” = gun control of guns white guys like.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  157. Negroes and the Gun: A Winchester in every Black home

    By Prof. Nicholas Johnson, guest-blogging
    Jan. 29, 2014 at 11:41 a.m. CST

    Surveying the landscape in the summer of 1892, Ida B. Wells advised, that “the Winchester rifle deserved a place of honor in every Black home.” This was no empty rhetorical jab. She was advancing a considered personal security policy and specifically referencing two recent episodes where armed Blacks saved their neighbors from lynch mobs.

    Twice within one month, lynch mobs formed, one in Paducah, Kentucky, another in Jacksonville, Florida. Square in their sights were hapless Negroes who were on track to the same fate as many others before them. But in both cases, the mobs were thwarted by armed Blacks, though the record demands some speculation about how many of their guns were actually Winchester rifles. Other similar episodes in Mississippi and Georgia confirmed for Ida Wells the importance of armed self-defense in an environment where the idea of relying on the state for personal security or anything else was an increasingly absurd proposition.

    For Wells and for many of her contemporaries — the “New Negroes” of the late nineteenth century — the Winchester Rifle was a potent rhetorical tool. At a meeting of the Afro-American Press Association, fiery editor of the New York Age, T. Thomas Fortune, spurred by a recent spate of lynchings erupted, “We have cringed and crawled long enough. I don’t want any more ‘good niggers.’ I want ‘bad niggers.’ It’s the ‘bad nigger’ with the Winchester who can defend his home and child and wife.” W. A. Pledger of the Atlanta Age followed Fortune on the dais and affirmed the sentiments of the group that terrorists were “afraid to lynch us where they know the Black man is standing behind the door with a Winchester.”

    But the Winchester was more than just a rhetorical tool of militant journalists. In Memphis, after the lynching of Ida Wells’ good friend Tom Moss, Reverend Taylor Nightingale pressed his congregation all to buy Winchesters as a practical response to the surrounding threats. And from the Black settlements of the west comes the report that “the colored men of Oklahoma Territory mean business. They have an exalted ideal of their own rights and liberties and they dare to maintain them. In nearly every cabin visited was a modern Winchester oiled and ready for use.”

    This sort of preparedness was rewarded in 1891 when Edwin McCabe, an early advocate of Black emigration to the American west was attacked by a gang intent on discouraging Blacks from staking claims in the opening Oklahoma Territory. Blacks had been run out of several staging towns. But in Langston City, more than two thousand armed Blacks assembled in preparation for the land rush. After sporadic threats, McCabe was accosted and fired on. He was rescued by a superior force of Black men wielding Winchester rifles.

    Skeptics may worry that the rhetoric of militant journalists and the armed preparations of bourgeoning Black capitalists fails to account for the full spectrum of attitudes within the community. This is fair.

    So it helps to know that beyond Reverend Taylor Nightingale, other more staid members of the Black clergy were sympathetic to Ida B. Wells’ sentiments about the Winchester. AME Zion Bishop Alexander Walters exhorted, “after the late outrages in Georgia and South Carolina it becomes necessary that we organize for self-protection.” AME Bishop Henry McNeal Turner was explicit about the tools that this would require, urging Blacks to “get guns Negroes, keep them loaded, and may God give you good aim when you shoot.”

    The unfolding tradition of arms during this period is easy to caricature. The “Gay Nineties” yielded about two lynchings a week. It is easy in this context to proceed with simplistic images of Blacks either cowering in fear or desperately clutching guns. But then as now, the reality of the Black experience was far more diverse than the caricature would allow.

    Even during the bleakest of times, armed Black men and women carved out lives that defy modern expectations. Living and thriving in the American west, US Marshal Bass Reeves, “Black Mary” Fields, Brit Johnson, Willie Kennard, George Goldsby and “Nigger Jim” Kelly, stood and fought and prevailed against expectations. They enrich the tradition with episodes of grit and bravery that endeared them to many of their white contemporaries and raised some of them to legend.

    And even back east, in the story of Buddie Shang, the kindly uncle who killed a white attacker with a shotgun blast, we see that armed self-defense by Blacks did not necessarily spark violent backlash or “legal lynchings.” In the winter of 1890, Buddie Shang was arrested and tried by an all-white jury that deliberated just three minutes before returning its verdict. Quick deliberations were familiar in cases like this, often signaling results that reflect the worst tribal impulses. But for Buddie Shang it took only three minutes for twelve white men to declare him not guilty.

    Buddie Shang and many others show that the Black tradition of arms, like any cultural phenomenon, grew up from the words and deeds of countless individual souls who, even under the common burden of racism, still had richly different experiences.

    For many of these people, we know something of their story but less about their thoughts. For the philosophical grounding of the Black tradition of arms, we look more to the literate, leadership class. And here we might worry how much the rhetoric really matched practical commitment. This worry is diminished by the evidence that many in the leadership class truly did walk it as they talked it. As tomorrow’s post will show, this is vividly demonstrated in the words and deeds of America’s preeminent Black intellectual, W.E.B. Dubois, who paced the floor following the 1906 Atlanta race riot, with “a Winchester double-barreled shotgun and two dozen rounds of shells filled with buckshot.” And within the bourgeoning leadership class of the early twentieth century, Dubois is just the tip of the story.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/01/29/negroes-and-the-gun-a-winchester-in-every-black-home/

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
  158. @Dr. X

    The Sullivan Act is a gun control law in New York State that took effect in 1911. The law required licenses for New Yorkers to possess firearms small enough to be concealed. Private possession of such firearms without a license was a misdemeanor, and carrying them in public was a felony. The act was named for its primary legislative sponsor, state senator Timothy Sullivan, a notoriously corrupt Tammany Hall politician.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_Act

    Sounds like the NY version of this Chicago Alderman who once ran an campaign ad stating: “He led the fight against handguns in Chicago”:

    “It’s still not known if the guns that were found in November were discovered at Burke’s ward office or at City Hall, but it’s hard to miss the irony of a staunch gun control advocate having to turn over 23 guns as a condition of his bond.”

    • LOL: Hibernian
  159. @Dave Pinsen

    Agree. In fact, I think this could be a golden opportunity even in the Dem primary. When asked to retract his statement, Bloomberg should say something along the lines of “No. What I said was true and it still is. I’m not worried about being politically correct. I’m worried about saving the lives of young black kids.” I think that would go over well with some of the more moderate Democrats, and very well with black church lady types, who do a lot of the black voting, and many of whom have grandsons they are raising themselves.

    • Agree: Dave Pinsen
  160. @ben tillman

    Which party in Bloomberg in again? The Bloomberg party?

  161. J.Ross says:
    @petit bourgeois

    We have to stop pretending we are one people under one law. Constitutional norms can’t exist at all when a dedicated minority rejects the Constitution, the law, and the country. Jury nullification as well makes perfect sense as intended, but was never intended for this population. Pretending to care about constititionality at the enforcement end while not caring at the citizenship end is the ACLU’s subversive shtick.

  162. Forbes says:
    @FPD72

    Bloomie is close. The stat with the most prominence in NYC is that 98% of gun crimes are committed by non-Whites.

  163. BB753 says:

    I feel triggered! The horror! This is not who we are!
    I guess the DNC wants him out of the race. What’s he doing running as a Democrat? Bloomberg would make a good RINO or neocon. He’s wasting what little (political or otherwise) life he’s got left with the Dems.

  164. Kronos says:
    @fish

    During my brief (but intense) research binge on feminism, I remain amazed at the sheer size of the Feminist/Corporatist alliance. Feminism remains a middle-upper class movement dedicated to advancing careers mainly in the private sector. (Academia and Non-Profits/Foundations are big ones as well.)

    The notion that all women must start an “career” in a secular nunnery for “empowerment” really is absurd. Especially now that most jobs for us Millennials are low paying service jobs.

    But most Boomer feminists will vote for Neoliberalism every time.

  165. Forbes says:
    @Mr. Anon

    He is a would-be tyrant.

    FIFY.

  166. @Reg Cæsar

    ““So one affect, one of the unintended consequences is, people say, Oh my God, your arresting kids for marijuana, they’re all minorities.”

    Oh please, they just didn’t put the contraction in. I see that all the time. Virtually always by people who don’t know the difference between “effect” and “affect.”

    Also, “would of.”

    It’s idiocracy.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  167. Forbes says:
    @anon

    Also the Upper East Side near the 2nd Avenue subway (still under construction).

    It’s the year 2020, the “Q” line opened January 1, 2017. Try to keep up.

    • Replies: @anon
  168. @houston 1992

    Here’s what happened to Bloomie last night in the deep blue Peoples’ Republic: https:/www.thetruthaboutguns.com/hundreds-of-gun-rights-supporters-spoil-bloomberg-campaigns-arlington-va-gun-control-event/

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  169. anon[343] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kronos

    The notion that all women must start an “career” in a secular nunnery for “empowerment” really is absurd. Especially now that most jobs for us Millennials are low paying service jobs

    It’s what girls are told from grade school on. It is the standard track. Somehow being a barista or working in the stop-n-rob is better than being home tending a garden and raising children. This has been a goal of feminism since the 70’s.

    One reason: Single women voters heavily skew towards the D, married women towards the R. Probably just a coincidence.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  170. Jack D says:
    @Desiderius

    No fruit provides a lot of protein but citrus fruits, pineapples and blueberries are all high in various vitamins (and blueberries are high in anti-oxidants).

    The best thing is to eat a varied diet because there is no one perfect food.

  171. @SFG

    “Gun control makes sense where everyone lives right by each other and stray bullets are a real concern. ”

    “Real concern” compared to what? The Jews in Morton Grove, Illinois didn’t pass their handgun ban in 1981 because they feared “stray bullets.” Neither did the Oak Park, Illinois communists who voted a handgun ban on popular vote.

    So what’s the actual reasoning?

  172. El Dato says:

    OT: Looks like Borisland actually understands (at least partly and what’s the idiocy want to build a bridge to Northern Ireland?) that “Knowledge Economy” is not only based on people from down south immigrating and locally competing with Chinese T-shirt printshops:

    Via Peter Woit’s blog:

    London Calling with Career Opportunities II

    If you’re a mathematician, you don’t need to go work for Dominic Cummings in order to have dramatically improved career opportunities in the UK. The British government has just announced a huge increase in funding for mathematical research: 60 million pounds/year (or about \$80 million dollars) for the next five years (see here and here). To get some idea of the scale of this, note that the US GDP is about 8 times the UK’s and the NSF DMS budget is about \$240 million/year. So the comparable scale of this funding in the US would be about two and a half times the NSF budget for mathematics.

    Many of my mathematician colleagues have sometimes seemed to me to be of the opinion that a huge increase in funding for math research is the best way to improve a society. We’ll see if this works for Britain.

    While the new UK government ran on a nativist platform of restricting immigration, with the goal of keeping outsiders from taking bread out of the mouths of UK citizens, this doesn’t apply to mathematicians: all limits are off and we’re encouraged to flood the country. The law will be changed on Friday, changes go into effect Feb. 20. This will include an “accelerated path to settlement”, no need to even have a job offer, and all your “dependents [will] have full access to the labour market”, no problem with them and the taking the bread out of the mouths of the locals thing.

    Now, about the weather, the rabid & dangerous for life & limb wokery in academe and the knife & acid attack epidemic…

  173. JimB says:
    @SFG

    I’m sure he’d be a competent administrator, and NYC has more people than many states. But he shouldn’t be president.

    Bloomberg has no important political vision and should just retire and run a foundation giving money away to hospitals and universities.

  174. @anon

    We need to diversify Israel first. It is full of stale olive males with a pathetic lack of food truck options.

  175. That does it! I’m voting for Bloomberg.

  176. El Dato says:
    @Thea

    Twitter Observatory RT.com reporting in:

    ‘A TOTAL RACIST’: Trump helps ‘cancel’ Bloomberg on Twitter after leaked audio blaming minorities for ‘95% of murders’

    Trump can’t resist gasolining the woke conflagration,tweets: “WOW, BLOOMBERG IS A TOTAL RACIST”

    (What’s the relationship between Trump and Bloomberg anyway?)

    Bloomberg apparently had a premonition his speech might come back to bite him someday, as he specifically ordered the Aspen Institute not to distribute footage of his 2015 appearance. He was reportedly already considering a presidential run at the time, and likely figured his views wouldn’t go over well with the general public.

    New Yorkers who lived under the heavy hand of Bloomberg’s NYPD, which he notoriously referred to as “my own army,” however, are not likely to forget so easily.

    Also, dat be Russians.

    https://twitter.com/KTTheorist/status/1227221495476256768/photo/1

    I didn’t know Russian Troll Working hours where 10:00-13:00. I’m sending my CV.

  177. @Kronos

    Feminism is socialism; except for only half the population. The other half gets to pay the taxes, take all the dangerous jobs, and get far fewer benefits. Other than that it is all about equality.

    • Agree: bomag
  178. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Airports arent public though. You arent required to go there.

    • Disagree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  179. SafeNow says:

    Why not stop-question-frisk whites in much greater numbers than blacks, to defuse the “racist” allegation? Frisk those white pharmacists, accountants, bankers, and plumbers! The required extra police manpower would be minimized by the fact that these people would instantly cooperate.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  180. Thomas says:
    @Anonymouse

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he picks up an Obama endorsement, especially if it looks like he’s the last chance for the moderate lane of the Democratic Party versus Bernie. Obama’s race obscured the fact that he was never off-message with the Wall Street wing of the party. “Power to the people rhetoric and Ivy League outcomes,” as our esteemed host once put it.

    The risks of a Bloomberg candidacy are being underestimated. The moderate lane he would take up is quickly being vacated as Biden implodes. The Democratic left might, and probably would, fall in line behind anybody who’s against Orange Man, no matter whom, so much has he consumed their every waking thought. NAMs and low-information voters may be bought with enough money, media and endorsements. Moderate, suburban Republicans alienated by Trump could be in play with a Bloomberg candidacy in a way they won’t be for a Sanders one.

    And the scale of Bloomberg’s personal wealth is something utterly novel in American electoral politics. He literally has the personal wealth to run for President a hundred times over. Not only is that basically a “cheat code” for one of the biggest issues of any modern political campaign, but it frees him up from having to spend any time fundraising.

    Nobody knows if Presidential election can just be bought outright for the right price. We’re probably going to find out this year.

    • Agree: Dtbb
  181. @Art Deco

    The fertility figures are for black women, but don’t count white women with black fathers, which is vastly more common black women with white fathers.

  182. Thomas says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Speaking of bills working their way through a legislature, has anyone else been paying attention to all the gun control bills the VA legislature has been ramming through in the past week or two? Good grief.

    You can thank Mike Bloomberg for that one too. He basically gave the gun control movement an unlimited budget. At the same time, the NRA was getting eaten from within by its own crooked leadership. Consider that an early object lesson of the power of money in politics.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  183. DRA says:
    @petit bourgeois

    Seems like giving cops the court ordered right to stop and frisk those out on bail or on parole, coupled with radio frequency identifiers of same, might limit a lot of concern for “warrantless frisking”. Those on bail could have ankle bracelets while those on parole could have tags under the skin. Anyone removing the RFI tags should be incarcerated.

    Couple that with millimeter frequency scanners to detect weapons on those found in association with folks with RFI tags, and the net result might be close to the same as the practice of ‘ race related stop and frisk that seems to cause so much concern.

  184. Kronos says:
    @Art Deco

    Blacks are not a particularly fecund population (their tfr is 2.1 children per woman per lifetime). Abortion is more frequent among blacks than among whites (by 2.7x), but the net effect of the difference is to reduce the black share of live births from about 15% to about 12%.

    Is there any projections from the 1950s and 1960s predicting the future US Black population growth rate? What would it be today if Hispanic legal and illegal immigrants weren’t allowed entry for the last 40 years?

    • Replies: @Travis
    , @Autochthon
  185. @Clyde

    Bloomie born in working class, Jew heavy Malden Massachusetts. I think raised there too. Malden is Chinese now.

    Malden must have good schools.

  186. Sol says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Why frisk when he now wants to take away all guns? Haha

  187. @Jack D

    The most remarkable thing about bananas in America is that they have been cheaper than apples since the 19th century despite the fact that apples are locally grown and bananas have to be shipped across the ocean. The “secret” is that banana are grown in places where the workers work for cheap.

    Bananas grow in south Texas. They are weeds. I have a dozen or so out there now if the squirrels haven’t got them yet. They don’t require any work. No watering, fertilizing, nothing. Just pick them. And bananas all grow together in an enormous bunch unlike most fruits that are spread all over the tree and have to be picked one at a time. There are even dwarf banana trees that bear fruit about 5 ft. off the ground. You can get like 50 off the tree in less than 5 minutes. You can’t get 50 oranges off a tree in 5 minutes.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  188. Anonymous[371] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Bloomie was mayor from 2002-2013. No doubt there is some risk in stopping and frisking NAMs in the initial phases, before they learn not to take guns with them as a habit. And no doubt cops would prefer to eat donuts in a white suburb rather than spend time where the crime is.

    OTOH is saving the lives of “aspiring rappers” really a net benefit to society? Maybe the Escape From NY solution of lawless society behind walls is the better option. But it would be unseemly to just gas the area and reclaim the real estate in this day and age. But what if there were poor hapless whites, I mean racists in the hinterlands you could dump your problems onto?

  189. countenance says: • Website
    @Thea

    “Michael Bloomberg thinks it isn’t a good idea for young black men to have handguns.”

    Believe me, Michael Bloomberg wants that to be repeated over and over again in the news cycle in the coming months, even if those saying it are trashing him for having made that kind of statement.

    I certainly wouldn’t want the bad PR for having the same thing said about me save swapping out “isn’t” for “is.”

  190. @Thomas

    The Democratic left doesn’t matter. What matters is Bernie Bros/Blacks and turnout. But yeah, Bloomberg gets all the Jeb/Romney cucks shamed by Trump in their cowardice/impotence.

    See High Noon/High Plains Drifter.

    • Replies: @Thomas
  191. Anonymous[371] • Disclaimer says:
    @countenance

    Thinking the same thing, independently. Maybe Democrats prefer a candidate that has a chance of winning the general election.

    This is the opposite to the Republicans, where catering to the base will win a general. If the Democats cater to the base they will crater in the general. Elect Batman. Batman vs Batman. Who will be the ultimate King of Gotham?

  192. Travis says:
    @Kronos

    good question. Black fertility was much higher than white fertility in the 50s , 60s, 70s and 80s. This is the reason the Black population doubled between 1950 and 1990. Going from 15 million to 30 million Blacks while the white population only grew by 40% during this same time period.

    In 1950 Blacks were 10% of the US population. Blacks reached 12% of the US population in 1990 and the Black population is currently at 13% of the US population.

    But without granting amnesty to millions of Hispanics and allowing millions of Latinos and Asians to immigrate the Black population today would be 16% of the US Population.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  193. J.Ross says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    For one they gave critics (in the hallways and visitor galleries) thirty seconds to leave the building (for “security”) and then held their vote without observers. This is not about guns, this is about the total destruction of our legal system.

  194. @Dr. X

    Actually, obtaining a carry permit is relatively easy in many, if not most, parts of the state outside of the biggest cities. Erie County (Buffalo) is difficult, but Monroe County is quite easy, as long as you don’t live in the city of Rochester. People who’ve resided in Monroe County for three years and who don’t have a history of mental health or legal troubles are virtually guaranteed to get their carry permit.

    Now that said, the whole permitting scheme in NYS is IMHO unconstitutional and should be found so. That it is left up to local judges to determine an individual’s right to bear arms is ridiculous. I’m not sure how that squares with equal protection under the law.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Dr. X
  195. Thomas says:
    @Desiderius

    Iowa showed that turnout is low for the Democratic primary at this point. That, and the general chaos and malaise in the Democratic Party, could open the door to Bloomberg. The parallel with Trump’s capture of a Republican Party in the middle of its own identity crisis 4 years ago is almost too obvious to mention. And Trump didn’t have an unlimited war chest.

    What might happen after Bloomie gets the Democratic nomination, if he does, is anyone’s guess. But 2016 should’ve put to bed the idea that “the party decides.” The assumptions about this or that branch of the Democrats (blacks, Bernie Bros, etc.) may not apply anymore, the same way the Midwestern “blue wall” didn’t contain Trump. We’re living in an era of disruption and confounded expectations.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    , @Inquiring Mind
  196. @Thomas

    Very good comment, Thomas. You sure got me worried. I agree with your comment below this one I’m replying to, also. Bloomberg is not just your average gun grabber. He’s been trying with his own money for decades. Imagine if he had the weight of the DOJ in front of him.

    The other kooks talks a crazy Socialist, anti-White, well, kooky game, but this guy Bloomberg would be a terror.

    • Replies: @Thomas
  197. @Mr. Rational

    Winner, winner, chicken dinner! Thank you for the response.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  198. Mike Bloomberg On Black/Mulatto And Mestizo/Latino Crime In New York City(2015):

    Bloomberg claimed that 95 percent of murders fall into a specific category: male, minority and between the ages of 15 and 25.* Cities need to get guns out of this group’s hands and keep them alive, he said.

    “These kids think they’re going to get killed anyway because all their friends are getting killed,” Bloomberg said. “They just don’t have any long-term focus or anything. It’s a joke to have a gun. It’s a joke to pull a trigger.”

    At one point, the former mayor brought up New York City’s stop-and-frisk practices, which gained national attention in 2011. Bloomberg said that during his last year in office, a minister at a Baptist church in Harlem invited him to speak.

    “While I’m sitting there waiting for him to introduce me, he said to his congregation, ‘You know, if every one of you stopped and frisked your kid before they went out at night, the mayor wouldn’t have to do it,’” Bloomberg said. “And so I knew I was going to be okay with that audience.”

    https://www.aspentimes.com/news/michael-bloomberg-calls-colorados-decision-on-legal-pot-stupid/

    Tweet from 2015:

  199. Clyde says:
    @teotoon

    the green banana’s starch adds bulk to slow down the intestines and add bulk to the feces. I am short 4ft. of intestine and make use of slightly green bananas (3 a day) to control the frequency of bowel movements.

    Not the answer I had in mind but slightly green bananas will be more fibrous so they are helping you there. Bit similar to cooking breaking down the fibrousness/cellulose of a carrot so it is more digestible. You can assimilate more of it. But a raw carrot or lightly cooked carrot is more fibrous so will provide bulk for the intestines. For their healthy functioning.

  200. @anon

    I agree with anon[110]. Minnesota has its fair share of Somalis. Just like taxes, everyone needs to pay their fair share. Send them to NY and CA. I was thinking both those states could use some real diversity.

  201. J.Ross says:

    Ipswichian posting posters: “Reject white guilt.”
    Lyingpress: police hunt dangerous white supremacist!
    But Leftists on Twitter saying this upcoming election will be a “war” isn’t a dog-whistle.
    https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/ipswich-white-supremacist-stickers-1-6496143?fbclid=IwAR2aOGZSk1MhWbhx0A9Fn00U42PX-bJ9XT3Dprxoxq7WPwqTOqeAcDQSBWI
    https://postimg.cc/MMcQLK5n

  202. @petit bourgeois

    Anyone who is praising Bloomberg for the content of this speech, should be taken to the woodshed (or the wood-chipper) once the inevitable, intended, expansion of such powers happens once the 4th Amendment is finally, definitively put in a coffin.

    As it is, ~75% of the US population resides in places where the 4th Amendment is already weakened – i.e., within 100 miles of any point of entry into the US.

    That would be the border search exemption.

    Interesting to note that this ‘exemption’ is considered constitutionally valid in the risible bullshit expounded by BlackRobe lackies.

    Why? Simple silly: it’s not an exemption to the 4th Amendment (heaven forfend)… it’s just an exemption to the requirement that searches be conducted pursuant to a sworn warrant based on probably cause and detailing the specifics of the search. So, you know… only the judicially-irrelevant bits of the 4th.

    See how those BlackRobe cunts work? Like Humpty Dumpty, but with even less concern for the liberty of the serfs.

    Worried about ‘unreasonable search and seizure‘? Depends on what you think ‘unreasonable‘ means[1], you no-government-sinecure-having serf.

    A lot of folks think that this 100-mile zone projects inwards from the coastline and national border (which would be bad enough)… but it also includes a 100-mile buffer around any international airport, which captures almost the entire population of all major inland cities. By design: they will, in due course, get rid of Almeida-Sanchez v US 413 U.S. 266 (1973) and similar cases, and extend its application to all law enforcement rather than just CBP agents. (Sounds paranoid: it will happen in your lifetime)

    Likewise warrantless search of the mail – United States v. Ramsey, 431 U.S. 606, 616 (1977) and shipping containers Illinois v. Andreas 463 U.S. 765 (1983).

    All perfectly above board and consistent with the bill of rights, according to the BlackRobes.

    And of course the same fuckbags are having a red-hot go at finishing the ongoing dismantling of the 1st, 2nd, and 5th.

    The 6th is basically gone: speedy (pfft); public (weakened because terrrrrrism); unbiased jury (nup); compelling witnesses (weak); assistance of counsel (doesn’t actually say competent‘)… taken together the 6th is dead.

    Amdts 7-10 are pretty much dead.

    The 7th might still have some brain activity if we lived in a world where the BlackRobes were not government’s handmaidens and lickspittles: Colgrove v Battin 413 U.S. 149 (1973) made it a joke (a 6-person jury, which is an appallingly low bar given that in civil trials a jury decision is majority-based), and it’s always open to finagle a fact into a legal error… wherupon the gates to hell open wide.

    I guess Amendments 6 to 10 require people to use both hands to count: it’s understandable that people who lionise the US system never noticed 6 to 10 being parsed out of existence – maybe they counted 6-10 on the fingers of their wanking hand, which was in constant use.

    People like Bloomberg are the worst of the worst. They are more pernicious than people like Trump – Trump’s a buffoon, and buffoons are bad at subterfuge and conspiracy, because they can’t keep their mouths shut. More buffoons in politics would be an unalloyed Good Thing (it would – eventually – also help the masses understand who is really in charge).

    [1] Also up for grabs: the definitions of ‘persons, houses, papers and effects‘, ‘probable cause‘, ‘Oath or affirmation‘… etc etc.

    In other contexts: define ‘excessive‘ (for bail); ‘speedy‘ (for trial); ‘cruel and unusual‘ (for punishment); and of course ‘due process of law‘ (which includes judicial parsing… meta as fuck, y’all).

    • Replies: @Aldon
  203. Clyde says:
    @Neuday

    Because it’s better to eat an unripe banana today than for someone else eat the ripe banana tomorrow. High time-preference for the k-selected win!

    For the win is right!
    Your answer is what I had in mind. In a time of food scarcity a Puerto Rican peasant (Dominicans too) looks at the banana stalk with green bananas/plantains hanging. Lets say three-four weeks before ripeness and sweetness set in. He figures….Damn I am starving. I am going to eat that now and find a way to cook it so I can eat it now. Mofongo is down home peasant food. I had a Puerto Rican friend who would go on about it. Eating it also brought back memories.

    Asians have way of eating unripe mangoes with a little hot sauce on it. The mango is in a green stage and crunchy like an apple. I live in a zone where bananas and mangoes are grown so I know this first hand and it is discussed.

  204. MEH 0910 says:
    @MEH 0910

  205. captflee says:
    @The Alarmist

    The DomRep was, and may for all I know now still be, a legendary exporter of its young er, ahem, ladies to brothels elsewhere. The cathouses of San Juan were chock full of them, as they were apparently greatly preferred to the local offerings. Every other Friday the eagle would defecate, and buses full of squids from Rosey Roads would arrive at our little Coastie base on la Puntilla, from there flooding the old city with green paychecks in hand. The local establishments, craving that lucre, competed for their trade by offering free drinks if one cashed his check at their establishments, so we Coasties would blend in with the ravaging hordes to cash our checks, figuring that one young white dude with a two dollar haircut looks much like another, then away from the madding crowds to our less well known haunts we would flee.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  206. J.Ross says:

    Last week was almost the biggest delivery of good news since the Trump election: will this week compete?
    SMOLLETT INDICTED BY CHICAGO SPECIAL PROSECUTOR
    https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/jussie-smollett-indicted-by-special-prosecutor-in-chicago-source-says

  207. Clyde says:
    @Jack D

    Look up potato mono-diet. Also seen on you tube. It has its advocates. A man on the Washington State Potato Commission lived on them for a few months. You can lose weight doing this
    *******

    Man Eats Nothing but Potatoes for 2 Months | Fox News
    https://www.foxnews.com/health/man-eats-nothing-but-potatoes-for-2-months
    As executive director of the Washington State Potato Commission, Voigt has pledged to eat nothing but potatoes for two months. No toppings, no sides – just 20 potatoes each day Man Eats Nothing …

  208. Anonymous[354] • Disclaimer says:

    Based Boomerberg

  209. SFG says:
    @Kronos

    What did you learn, and where did you learn it? I’m curious to learn more myself.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  210. Dtbb says:
    @Thea

    He pronounces his name as Blumberg in the ads that run 24/7 on all types of media here in Florida. Which pronunciation is correct? All the new ads show him coming up to Obama’s shoulders. Is he officially endorsed?

  211. @Thomas

    At the same time, the NRA was getting eaten from within by its own crooked leadership.

    Can you elaborate on this? Serious question.

    • Replies: @Thomas
  212. MBII says:
    @RichardTaylor

    As someone who lives in Minnesota, no we don’t. Stop wishing ill on people in other places who have done nothing to you.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
  213. MBII says:
    @RichardTaylor

    Stop trying to fuck up the state that I am living in…

    • LOL: RichardTaylor
  214. Anon[181] • Disclaimer says:
    @petit bourgeois

    When it comes right down to it, Civil Rights are only for people who obey the law. Giving Civil Rights to criminals is an extremely silly waste of time. Sociopaths only concentrate on how to take advantage of the innocent, and they deliberately use Civil Rights as a weapon against everyone else. Civil Rights, for a criminal, is the equivalent of having a gun in their pocket.

    They actually use Civil Right to commit crimes, most often theft or other property crimes. People get sued for trivial things, or lose their jobs, or lose out on slots at colleges, or lose out on cheaper housing, or never get offered good jobs because of scheming Sociopaths using Civil Rights as a weapon.

    Anyone who doesn’t recognize what’s going on is naive.

  215. @Jack D

    And, Central America had fewer problems when the United Fruit Company ran it!

  216. Anonymous[181] • Disclaimer says:
    @El Dato

    “Political parties do not exist for factions to gain power over them and lose elections so long as the faction maintains its grip,” Carville wrote in the prestigious Financial Times. “They exist to win elections.”

    Boy, is he ever wrong about this. A very important point is: The Democratic Party apparatus is a machine. Political machines give their supporters patronage jobs. The Democrats are having a civil war over those jobs. Whoever comes out on top gets to fill Democratic machine with their own people. It’s better to be an official of a losing political party if you want some power, money, and perks than not be a party official at all, where you get nothing.

    Democrats think that it’s worth fighting over party power itself, completely independent of losing elections. The party itself is a rainmaker for them and showers them with goodies.

    Over a billion dollars flowed into the Democratic Party during the last election. That’s money worth fighting over. Look at the SPLC. They make so much money via donations that having power in the SPLC meant those officials could line their pockets. They perpetuated themselves to keep that money rolling in.

    8 years of Obama taught the various factions of Democrats that not everyone is getting the goodies even if the Democrats are in power, and after 3 years of Trump, they’re desperate not to miss out this time. If certain interests can’t take over the Democrats, they’ll get nowhere at all. Taking over the Democrats is the only chance they have, so they’ll go for it.

    • Agree: El Dato
  217. @Desiderius

    Californian fruits are very often diseased and high in fat.

    One is better off seeking out the heartier, less widely circulated fruits which occasionally arise in rural, inland areas like Kansas or Wyoming – though even these can be commonly ruined by methamphetamines.

    Really, though, fish, beef, and poultry are better sources of nutrition altogether.

  218. vhrm says:
    @Clifford Brown

    He’ll generally implement whatever he get get through Congress like other presidents.

    Yeah Obama kinda sucked extra with his whole and anti-reality police “consent decrees” and DACA (which i still can’t believe actually flew/ is all around) but on domestic policy Presidents’ power is moderate at best.

  219. Lot says:
    @Jack D

    Bernie wins NH! Only Bernie 49/100 and Bloomie 26/100 are still solidly in the running in prediction markets.

    Joe falls to 8/100, Poca to 3/100.

    Looks like this will also be my first cycle losing money betting on politics. 🙁

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Barnard
    , @Desiderius
  220. MEH 0910 says:

  221. Kronos says:

    https://www.amazon.com/Death-Feminism-Struggle-Womens-Freedom/dp/1403975108/ref=sr_1_17?qid=1581468714&refinements=p_27%3APHYLLIS+CHESLER&s=books&sr=1-17&text=PHYLLIS+CHESLER

    https://www.amazon.com/Feminist-Fantasies-Phyllis-Schlafly/dp/1890626465/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Feminist+fantasies&qid=1581470265&s=books&sr=1-1

    I really liked these four books. Chesler is a great name dropper. You can write them down and look them up on Wikipedia. She also does a superb job documenting the various feuds between many of the feminist (perhaps schizophrenic) factions of second wave feminism. Also (Politically Incorrect Feminist) chronicles how many feminists raked in serious money by publishing. (As a Millennial raised on the internet, it’s amazing how these publishing houses and such controlled everything.)

    The funnier iSteve issues are reading how rich WASPs and rich Eastern European Jews battled for control while black feminists ate glue and received doubling dipping affirmative action privileges in various women’s organizations. The battles within NOW (National Organization for Women) were epic.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  222. anon[219] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    Creepy Joe is done. Even Corn Pop can’t save him now.

  223. Kronos says:
    @SFG

    Dang, I forgot to link it. It’s posted down below with four books and two Family Guy Videos.

    The best maxim I can provide is “women hate women.”

  224. Malcolm Y says:

    I tuned in to Hannity this afternoon and he played the Bloomberg tape on stop and frisk etc; Hannity’s comment was: “who’s REALLY racist now” etc. Made me mad. Made me sad. Although Hannity can be pretty thick, I kind of expected him to give Bloomberg some love for telling the truth. So either Hannity believes that “content of his character” sixties lite BS, which I’m afraid all prominent “conservatives” (Limbaugh, Ingraham e.g.) do; or he’s just lying for you know “politics.”

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  225. MEH 0910 says:

    • Replies: @Lot
  226. Hibernian says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    But, hey, they can teach us all about Jews. Not that they know any.

    Only a fair number of their senators: Boschwitz, Wellstone, Coleman, and Franken.

    • Replies: @Indocon
  227. Hibernian says:
    @SFG

    There used to be quite a few Reagan Democrat types in the outer boroughs, but they’ve long since decamped for Long Island and Jersey.

    Isn’t Staten Island an exception?

    • Replies: @Dr. X
  228. Hibernian says:
    @David

    Giuliani implemented broken windows policing, which is not the same thing. It is based on observed minor crimes, such as turnstile jumping. The cops then check for outstanding warrants for more serious offenses, similar to a cop running a motorist’s DL no. through the computer during a traffic stop. It was amazing how many perpetrators of moderate to serious crimes were caught that way.

  229. Ragno says:
    @Anon

    Don’t be fooled by accidentally-on-purpose “leaks” designed to goose his poll numbers in mostly-white states. Mayor Midget is quite hip to pragmatic reality – such as once he’s the nominee, the MSM will have no choice but to carry his water, green-screen his more-catastrophic missteps away, and muzzle the squawking of useless blacks. They won’t even mind overlooking his running roughshod over so-called “term limits” or watching his net worth multiply from $5 billion to over $50 billion during his terms of “public service”. All he’s got to do is buy the nomination and become the Only Possible Alternative to Orange Man Bad…..and the Fourth Estate – or is that the Fifth Column? – will do the rest.

    Fun fact: if November comes down to Trump, Bernie and Bloomie (running as the world’s richest “independent”)…..Trump will be the baby of the bunch at a mere 74! Pardon me: I mean “Kid” Trump.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  230. Lot says:
    @MEH 0910

    I like how he’s rich enough he has his own vanity short-link domain mikebloom.bg

    • Replies: @El Dato
  231. HA says:
    @Art Deco

    “Abortion is more frequent among blacks than among whites (by 2.7x),”

    Unless there has been a dramatic change in the last decade, that number (as of 2008) is more like five:

    This much is true: In the United States, the abortion rate for black women is almost five times that for white women.

    As a result, “In New York City, where Planned Parenthood is headquartered, more black babies are aborted than are born alive (1,180 abortions for every 1,000 live births).”

    As for the two-ish multiplier, perhaps you were thinking of Hispanics:

    The abortion rate among Hispanic women, for example, although not as high as the rate among black women, is double the rate among whites.

    • LOL: Kronos
    • Replies: @Prester John
  232. Barnard says:
    @Lot

    According to the exit poll, almost 33% of the electorate in New Hamshire were AWFLs over 40. Biden should denounce them as racists in a last ditch effort to save his campaign.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  233. Coemgen says:
    @Thomas

    Bloomberg v. Trump is going to be Globalism v. non-Globalism (dare we say the demonized by Globalist media: “Nationalism”).

    If you want to hear Bloomberg crash and burn then listen to him defend Globalism uber alles. Remember “alles” includes U.S. voters.

  234. @Clyde

    “Why would anyone eat bananas green, when they are not yet sweet?”

    Firm texture. That’s why I liked green bananas when I was a keed.

  235. anon[105] • Disclaimer says:

    Yang just announced he’s done.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
  236. Bloomberg’s no fool. He may be an opportunistic, billionairian egomanical bullshit artist, but he’s no fool. Now he’s just got to cover it all up 🙂

    Stop and frisk was a really a godsend for the normal people in NYC. Before that era, back in the ’70s, I used to listen wide-eyed in the evenings when an NYPD uncle finished and described his shift. He used a lot of bad language that my parents would never use. But after a few brews and a bunch of cigarettes he’d relax and describe the reality of crime in NYC.

    Once we had a mild argument over stereotypes and he said that when I was older I’d understand. Well… He was pretty much right.

  237. @Thomas

    Has anyone here seen any of Michael Bloomberg’s TV commercials funded from his bottomless bank account?

    Ouch, is this man lacking in any kind of charisma or charm. Mr. Trump, love him or hate him, is always, always entertaining. Mr. Bloomberg, not so much.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
  238. @Kronos

    Negroes not fecund? Are you insane?

    • Replies: @Kronos
  239. Amidst expressions of shock and dismay shock at Little Mike, Graham of South Carolina whilst on the Hannity Show sounded like a tidewater version of Claude Rains in “Casablanca” expressing shock at the gambling in the casino. Bloomberg was merely following in Rudy’s shoes. The want of self-awareness among politicians continues to amaze.

  240. @HA

    And the reason why white liberals support abor…, er, make that “choice.” Thus far the best way limit a redundant population.

    But we’re not to know that.

    • Replies: @anon
  241. anon[105] • Disclaimer says:

    Michael Bennet just announced he’s out.

    https://www.denverpost.com/2020/02/11/michael-bennet-new-hampshire-democratic-primary/

    How many people know who he is and that he was in the running?

  242. @Kronos

    The notion that all women must start an “career” in a secular nunnery for “empowerment” really is absurd.

    It’s based on the absurd notion that men want and are blessed to have careers.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  243. Indocon says:
    @Hibernian

    Two Republicans and two Democrats. Three of them were in line with Rudy Boschwitz defeated by Paul Wellstone who was succeeded by Norm Coleman who was defeated by Al Frankenstien (that was Siri, I am leaving it as is), who was me toed and succeeded by nice boring white lady Tina Smith, who is facing a straight white Republican male Jason Lewis in 2020.

    Which other Jewish Republican senators have won election for the past few decades, I can only think of Warren Rudman of NH, anybody else?

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  244. MBlanc46 says:
    @RichardTaylor

    And whoever pays them and drives them to the polls.

  245. Bugg says:
    @ScarletNumber

    True. But Bloomberg and his Police Commissioner, Ray Kelly, took some good tools in stop & frisk and Compstat and turned them into a numbers game. Much as it pains me to admit, BLM in this instance has a point. NYPD early 2000s could have taken a peace dividend; major crimes and murder especially was way down from the bad days of Dinkins. Have some insights “professionally” and 2nd hand. Instead of consolidating the improvements, they pushed for more numbers for the sake of numbers. And that is how precinct commanders were judged. So the incentives became a game. Captains would go out of their way to downgrade any 7 major crimes any way they could . Or take over a precinct, review the last months’ crime numbers before the takeover and upgrade a few to make your numbers look phenomenal. And some went further than that, discarding complaint reports altogether. Some captains got caught, others saw their careers take off. All that filtered down to street cops; make more stops, probable cause be damned. People on their stoops, their property, drinking a cold one, found themselves summonsed. Teens riding bikes on sidewalks, people with expired dog licenses, any nonsense at all to generate stops, was encouraged. Because it was viewed as doing something. And Bloomberg was all for it. Stupidly. You enforce such laws because the peace has been breached, with discretion. And a chance to do that was lost because Bloomberg loved to crow about his crime numbers. Not so much now.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  246. Dr. X says:
    @Hibernian

    Yes. Trump actually won Staten Island in 2016. By contrast Hillary won 88% of the vote in the Bronx.

  247. Pat Boyle says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Racism is Ok as long as it is nice racism. You shouldn’t ridicule or demean blacks and hispanics but please do we have to ignore objective reality? Do we have to pretend that all the races behave exactly alike in every way?

    In New York City in the last year for which we have records – 2019 – almost all the murders were committed by blacks and hispanics. Whites and Asians were arrested for only 6% of the murders whereas blacks and hispanics committed 93%.

    Bloomberg was reported as saying something to the effect that blacks and hispanics committed all of the serious crime. That seems pretty close to the literal truth. Sean Hannity criticized Bloomberg for speaking the truth. We seem to be going through a period where public figures are expected to lie about the realities of race.

  248. MBlanc46 says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    That is the answer, Mike. Different people, different laws.

  249. MBlanc46 says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    Bloomberg/Romney? Not a chance. If Bloomberg ever had that decision, it would come out on the order of Bloomberg/Abrams.

  250. Rob says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    The progressives have pretty much accepted black crime as a given. That’s why so many heavily black cities have decided not to prosecute black crimes short of murder. They’re also making it illegal to call the police on blacks. That’s a crime they’ll be sure to prosecute. Look at the Boston DA, for example.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  251. @indocon

    Bloomberg got it right and now he will pay for it. However, I believe it was Dr. Norman Finklestein who said that Jews were the most racists people while attacking everyone else.

  252. Thomas says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I think Trump is concerned about Bloomberg too, based on his Twitter today, and I wouldn’t bet against Trump’s political gut.

    If you listen to Bloomberg, he’s basically an ignoramus on guns, with basically no more understanding than you’d expect of a rich Northeast boomer. It’s just that he has an unlimited budget to spend on trying to erase one Amendment out of the Bill of Rights based on parochial ignorance.

    The one possible saving grace might be if John Roberts’ sense of whatever protecting the Supreme Court’s “legitimacy” means today would lead him to stand up to the Executive Branch over this, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

  253. Thomas says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    The Wall Street Journal and other media outlets have done most of the work on this. Essentially, the NRA and its board and leadership had some very questionable business dealings involving their PR agency and other outside vendors. They also wanted to turn into a profit-making business in concealed carry insurance as well as probably turning NRATV into another media outlet like OANN or Fox. I think with Trump being elected, they figured they’d be on easy street in terms of the political work, and now it was time for their top people to start doing well, rather than doing good.

    It all blew up in their faces, got the organization sucked into a lot of expensive and embarrassing litigation, and pretty much has the NRA just about at death’s door. They’ve got some very serious issues going on in New York with an audit by hostile state officials that I wouldn’t be surprised if it resulted in criminal referrals. They’re likely not to be a significant factor in this year’s election, while Bloomberg has pledged to put about $60 million into his various gun control outfits this year.

    • Thanks: Jim Don Bob
  254. Jack D says:
    @Joe Schmoe

    But nobody grows bananas commercially in the US because it’s cheaper to import them.

  255. @ScarletNumber

    I am nothing if not purposeful.

    The pointy-haired bosses at Xerox shall echo through the ages as the biggest bumblers in the history of commerce. Fortunately for the world at large, Steve Jobs took copious notes when he toured the PARC lab in Palo Alto.

    DEC into Compaq … Compaq into HP … and now (possibly) HP into Xerox. Quite an intriguing consolidation of corporate legacies.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Jim Don Bob
  256. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Any group can be brutal and the Dominicans are not choirboys, no pun intended. Thety are a mulatto people and have a greater propensity toward this type of behavior than, say, Swedes, for instance. But on the whole the Dominicans I have dealt with in the US have been a cut above the PRs, and my father worked with the Dominican Air Force over there and felt that the Dominican AF people, while not up to US standards, were relatively competent, more so than some of the central American air forces he dealt with.

    His company had a US government contract to supply parts for the V-1650 Packard built Rolls Merlin and Aeroproducts propellers. When US aid to the operators of these things stopped the civilian market for parts opened up-there were still over 500 Merlins in aircraft service then, as there were Lancasters flying with some foreign military and a couple of the four engine Merlin Canadian built DC-4s. And back then there were quite a few in Unlimited race boats, but without a super cushy US contract the company simply refused to service the civilian market. People would call and be told that we “knew nothing about this”. A willful lie. They laid off a fair number of people and destroyed a lot of old Packard tooling rather than see anyone else use it.

    And this was way before pwoduct wiability.

    That’s why I hate contractor spoilage and love to see these guys get fisted royally whenever possible. They are corporate heroin addicts. Time to make them go cold turkey.

    • Replies: @Lurker
  257. @bigdicknick

    Racism didn’t move, the CRT sons of bitches moved it and Barack Hussein was at Ground Zero.

  258. anon[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Forbes

    It’s the year 2020, the “Q” line opened January 1, 2017. Try to keep up.

    It’s “open” with three stops. Like I said, still under construction.

  259. Mr. XYZ says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    In comparison to Blacks, how crime-prone are Puerto Ricans and Dominicans?

    My educated guess is that the Puerto Ricans and Dominicans with more black ancestry are, on average, more crime-prone.

  260. J1234 says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    I also agree. But he’ll never make it to the primaries.

    I wouldn’t vote for him because of his anti-gun stance, but a statement like that would make it tempting.

  261. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Stan Adams

    The pointy-haired bosses at Xerox shall echo through the ages as the biggest bumblers in the history of commerce. Fortunately for the world at large, Steve Jobs took copious notes when he toured the PARC lab in Palo Alto.

    DEC into Compaq … Compaq into HP … and now (possibly) HP into Xerox. Quite an intriguing consolidation of corporate legacies.

    DEC was formed to do to IBM and the BUNCH what Edson de Castro did to DEC and what the micro guys did to them all. Ken Olson did not get it. He would not allow DEC to pursue the micro market until the market was shaken out and did not include DEC. The Motorola 6800 and 68000 were simpler and easier to use versions of the PDP-8 and PDP-11 architecture. DEC consistently made the wrong decisions, they microprocessorized the wrong architecture (the VAX over the 36 bit PDP-10), kept prices high until the VAX was steamrollered by the short instruction processor, then introduced the superb Alpha but were insufficiently aggressive in promoting it and kept prices unattractive too long. When Itanic took a massive shit and failed, everyone realized Alpha was the right choice, but then it was too late. Compaq-a PC clone vendor, and not a very good one at that-bought DEC out and HP bought DEC during the disastrous Broad Restructuring. HP then had a bunch of workstation and mini architectures and pissed everyone off so badly with abject stupidity they abandoned HP out of spite as much as anything else. (The electronic manufacturing industry, not a good one for HP to piss off, used a package called MANMAN that ran on the HP3000 architecture. HP took the 3000 out and shot it in the head in the courtyard. So they migrated to anything, anything at all, that did not involve HP, and even started buying second and third tier test equipment instead of Agilent/Keysight).

    Microsoft and Intel laughed so hard they probably pissed their pants. They don’t have to outrun the bear, they just have to outrun the clowns.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  262. @Joe Stalin

    the summer of 1892…Twice within one month, lynch mobs formed, one in Paducah, Kentucky, another in Jacksonville, Florida. Square in their sights were hapless Negroes who were on track to the same fate as many others before them. But in both cases, the mobs were thwarted by armed Blacks

    The case in question.

    Race Riot (Paducah, KY)

    In July 1892, Tom Burgess was arrested for the rape of a white woman in Paducah, KY.

    LOL, Blacks need guns to protect their rapists.

    Bonus. This attempted lynching of a white by blacks also happened in Paducah, Kentucky in July, 1892:

    MT. STERLING ADVOCATE

    It was the intention of the negro mob, which gathered in Paducah Monday night, to lynch J. E. Randle, a young white man who had killed James Bennett, a negro

    It was feared the civil authorities could not control the negro mob, and State troops were called to the scene.

  263. @Bitterclinger

    Now that said, the whole permitting scheme in NYS is IMHO unconstitutional

    New York’s 1777 Constitution had some of the strongest RKBA language of any states’, and it survived a century and a couple new constitutions. But then they let all those sooty, oily folks off the boats, and authorities got nervous.

    A surprisingly fair book written recently by a SUNY Cortland political science professor named, of all things, Spitzer told me something I never knew about the Sullivan Law– though it was aimed at immigrant neighborhoods, it was also very popular in those neighborhoods.

    Some things never change.

    Speaking of Spitzer’s department, it’s long been the home of Judith Best, who wrote the best book ever on the Electoral College:

    http://www2.cortland.edu/departments/political-science/faculty-staff-detail.dot?fsid=314342

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  264. OT, Everyone loves little sister:

    Greta Thunberg’s 60-Foot Tall Mural Stares Down At San Francisco

    A massive portrait of Greta Thunberg gazed down onto San Francisco on Tuesday night after an artist unveiled a mural of the Swedish teen activist

    The 60-foot tall, 30-foot wide…mural was revealed hours after Thunberg announced on Twitter that she would be leaving the United States by boat on Wednesday

    Alternate image included because real one is too disturbing:

  265. @Rob

    The progressives have pretty much accepted black crime as a given. That’s why so many heavily black cities have decided not to prosecute black crimes short of murder.

    This is correct and also partly why they have rallied around gun control.

    If the left truly believed in equality then they would support locking up street criminals that obstruct economic activity and development.

  266. @Barnard

    According to the exit poll, almost 33% of the electorate in New Hamshire were AWFLs over 40. Biden should denounce them as racists in a last ditch effort to save his campaign

    With Bernie, Bloomie, Biden, and Liz on the debate floor, one policy they could all agree on is Medevac-for-all.

    • Replies: @Neuday
  267. @Dave Pinsen

    If Bloomberg makes it to the general election, this leak (if that’s what it is) will actually help him.

    I think it’s a net negative.

    The majority of people that don’t care about the media screaming DATS RACIST over every politically incorrect comment aren’t that impressionable. They aren’t voting based on a single comment regardless if they agree or not.

    It’s the mushy and confused virtue signaling liberals that will drop a candidate if the media demands it. They rely on the media to tell them if a candidate is acceptable to the group or not.

    This also won’t go over well with Blacks, especially since Bloomberg can’t seem to get the date right on when he changed his mind.

  268. Anon[230] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Denver just lifted their 30-year old ban on owning Pit Bulls. Dare I suggest this is their way of ending their homeless crisis?

  269. @Ragno

    Don’t be fooled by accidentally-on-purpose “leaks” designed to goose his poll numbers in mostly-white states.

    It was being pushed by Black activists that want him out.

    Mayor Midget is quite hip to pragmatic reality – such as once he’s the nominee, the MSM will have no choice but to carry his water

    This is correct and partly why they are going nuts. The MSM isn’t able to turn on full propaganda mode without a designated candidate.

  270. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    New York’s 1777 Constitution had some of the strongest RKBA language of any states’, and it survived a century and a couple new constitutions. But then they let all those sooty, oily folks off the boats, and authorities got nervous.

    A surprisingly fair book written recently by a SUNY Cortland political science professor named, of all things, Spitzer told me something I never knew about the Sullivan Law– though it was aimed at immigrant neighborhoods, it was also very popular in those neighborhoods.

    Some things never change.

    Big Tim Sullivan, who shortly thereafter was put in the nuthouse and died of syphilis. devised the Sullivan Law to enable the Irish political machine to essentially jail uppity “Velocipedists with Flat Tires” ( presumably because of the annoying sound-“dago wop-wop-wop”) at will. Everyone carried guns, especially bicyclists because of the danger of attacks from rabid dogs. The law required a permit, issued much more readily to Pat and Seamus than to Guido and Rocco.

    He was again a member of the State Senate (12th D.) from 1909 to 1912, sitting in the 132nd, 133rd, 134th and 135th New York State Legislatures. In November 1912, he was elected to the 63rd United States Congress but, due to ill health, did not take his seat, and died a few months into his term.[4]

    It could be said that Sullivan was one of the earliest political reformers, since he was aligned with women’s rights activist Frances Perkins and sponsored legislation limiting the maximum number of hours women were forced to work, improving the conditions of stable and delivery horses and the Sullivan Law, city gun control legislation.[5]
    Rise to power in Tammany Hall
    Dewey Theatre, owned by Timothy D. Sullivan and George Krause and leased to William Fox who used the venue for vaudeville. Attendance averaged 9,000 patrons a day.[6]

    Despite his political and criminal activities, Sullivan was undeniably a successful businessman involved in real estate, theatrical ventures (at one point partnering with Marcus Loew), boxing and horseracing.[7]

    Along with various other Sullivans, Big Tim also branched out into popular amusement venues such as Dreamland in Coney Island, where he installed a distant relative, Dennis, as the political leader.[8] Sullivan, whose control extended to illegal prizefights through the National Athletic Club, influenced the New York State Legislature to legalize boxing in 1896 before ring deaths and other scandals caused the law’s repeal four years later.

    Among other laws he helped pass was the Sullivan Act, a state law that required a permit to carry or own a concealed weapon, which eventually became law on May 29, 1911. Upon first passage, the Sullivan Act required licenses for New Yorkers to possess firearms small enough to be concealed. Possession of such firearms without a license was a misdemeanor, and carrying them was a felony. However, with many residents unable to afford the $3 registration fee issued by the corrupt New York Police Department, his bodyguards could be legally armed while using the law against their political opponents.[9]

    He was extremely popular among his constituents. In the hot summer months, tenement dwellers were feted to steamboat excursions and picnics to College Point in Queens or New Jersey. In the winter months, the Sullivan machine doled out food, coal and clothing to his constituents. On the anniversary of his mother’s birthday, February 6, Sullivan dispensed shoes to needy tenement dwellers. The annual Christmas Dinners were a particularly notable event covered in all of the city papers.[10] Although he had a loyal following, his involvement in organized crime and political protection of street gangs and vice districts remained a source of controversy throughout his career.
    Electoral fraud

    Sullivan was an expert in using electoral fraud to retain his power. In a quid pro quo arrangement, constituents voted the way that they were instructed. In return, they were the recipients of Tammany largesse which included coal in the winter, clambakes and outings in the summer, jobs on the city payroll and all-around assistance. In 1892 when his pct went 395 to 4 for Grover Cleveland over Benjamin Harrison in the presidential election he said, “Harrison got one…more vote than I expected, but I’ll find that feller!” His most common tactic, with no voter ID, was to use “repeaters.” Here’s how he described it, “When you’ve voted’em with their whiskers on you take’em to a barber and scrap off the chin-fringe. Then you vote’em again with side lilacs and a mustache. Then to a barber again, off comes the sides and you vote’em a third time with the mustache. If that ain’t enough, and the box can stand a few more ballots, clean off the mustache and vote’em plain face. That makes every one of ’em good for four votes.” (Rothstein by David Pietrusza. Pgs 53-55.)
    Involvement in criminal activity

    During the turn of the century, he developed contacts with many influential figures, including Monk Eastman, Paul Kelly, Arnold Rothstein and disgraced NYPD Lieutenant Charles Becker, who was able to attain the latter a high-ranking position on the New York police force in 1893.[11]

    A close associate of Charles Francis Murphy, who succeeded the exiled Richard Croker as head of Tammany Hall in May 1902, the two forced corrupt police chief William Stephen Devery out of Tammany’s Executive Committee as part of Murphy’s campaign to eliminate any direct links between vice districts and Tammany Hall.

    However, Sullivan was allowed to keep his kickbacks from the Lower East Side and Chinatown as a means of keeping him from becoming Murphy’s political rival (he had used his considerable political influence from keeping Croker’s reform group, the Committee of Five, out of the Bowery only two years before). In exchange, Sullivan had to furnish gang leaders Monk Eastman and Paul Kelly, amongst others, to commit election fraud on behalf of Tammany Hall.[12]

    At the time, it was widely known that Sullivan and his subordinates were active in a number of illegal activities including prostitution, gambling and extortion. A number of these revelations came to light in the New York State Lexow Committee hearings as well as through the investigations of the Rev. Charles Henry Parkhurst.[13]
    Later years

    Suffering from tertiary syphilis during his later years, his health continued to deteriorate until he was judged mentally incompetent and finally committed to a sanitarium in 1912. According to the Incompetency hearings, Sullivan elicited paranoid delusions, believed he was being spied upon and his food was being poisoned.[14] On January 12, 1913, the New York Sun reported in a prominent page two article that he was mourned after being committed, “beyond cure” (without naming illness), suffering from “religious mania”.

    After nearly a year, he managed to escape from his brother’s house after eluding nurses on the early morning of August 31 (although other accounts claim he had escaped from orderlies after an all-night card game). Within a few hours, his body was found on the tracks in the Eastchester area of the Bronx, New York.

    Sullivan’s family did not report him missing for more than 10 days, and his body was brought, and held, at the local Fordham morgue. Finally, after a fortnight, Sullivan was classified as a vagrant and scheduled for burial in Potter’s Field despite his tailored clothing and “TDS” diamond monogrammed cufflinks.

    Just before removal, his body was finally recognized by Police Officer Peter Purfield, who was assigned to the morgue detail. The New York Times later speculated that Sullivan might have been killed and placed on the tracks. In fact, the engineer of the train that struck Sullivan stated that he thought the body was already deceased. And, adding to the speculation of foul play, Thomas Reigelmann, the Bronx coroner and Tammany political appointee who signed the death certificate, failed to recognize the body of his longtime friend despite the lack of trauma to the decedent’s face.[15]

    Power passed from micks to guineas, but the Fiorello LaGuardias now had a tool to jail the moolies. They were not giving it up either.

    The moolies vote as their Big Man tell them and the Big Men, often preachers, all carry as they please. I remember that a chartered greyhound style bus was used to carry a group of seventy black preachers from Detroit to, I think it was Windsor, Ontario for a conference. They got stopped and searched at the border and the Canadian customs crew found almost eighty guns on the bus. So some of the preachers were packing two guns!

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Joe Stalin
  271. anon[331] • Disclaimer says:
    @Prester John

    And the reason why white liberals support abor…, er, make that “choice.” Thus far the best way limit a redundant population.

    I’d be interested to see the Caesarian Section comparison between black and white and the elective CS comparison.
    Yeah, these people are evil, but it looks like blacks have only limited Agency anyway.

  272. @Anonymous

    The rabid dog threat … was that a real thing? When did it go away? How?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Kibernetika
  273. bomag says:
    @Jack D

    “Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.”

  274. @MBII

    As someone who lives in Minnesota, no we don’t. Stop wishing ill on people in other places who have done nothing to you.

    I wasn’t aware Minnesota had been a friend to White people all over the country. I thought they pushed the most destructive anti-White liberal policies around. I thought they patted themselves on the back for being morally superior to other Whites in the “less educated areas” while never facing the realities of diversity themselves. Am I wrong on that?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  275. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Yes, it really was.

    If you got bit by a rabid dog and contracted rabies, the death rate was 100 percent. It is still well over 99% though a couple of documented cases of people being cured with extreme treatment are now documented. Moreover, it was a horrible, excruciating demise. It’s well described in the literature.

    Incidentally, are you familiar with the book, Death Scenes: A Homicide Detective’s Scrapbook?

    Jack Huddleston, a bona fide detective with the Los Angeles police department, collected together a scrapbook of oddities and gruesome moments from his years working for the force. Huddleston’s scrapbook spans Southern California in its noir heyday, circa 1925–1945, the time when the Black Dahlia killer and Winnie Ruth Judd were perpetrating their savage crimes.

    Assembled into book form by editor and designer Sean Tejaratchi courtesy of collector and filmmaker Nick Bougas, Death Scenes is divided into several sections: “Odditorium and The Living”; “Accidents and Accidental Deaths”; “Suicides”; “Homicides”; and “The Morgue.” Katherine Dunn, whose book Geek Love (Knopf) earned critical acclaim and bestseller status, provides a cogent introduction, tracing the history of the man behind the scrapbook, meditating on the meaning behind the mayhem and madness.

    I bring this up because there is a photo in there of a “hydrophobia” victim, and some commentary. It’s pretty sobering.

    A rabies vaccine was introduced in the late 1880s and an improved version in 1908, but still, use of the vaccine was nowhere universal in those days and vaccines in general were not as reliable.

    Aside from rabies, attacks by large dogs could be scarring, debilitating, and occasionally crippling, maiming or fatal. Large aggressive dogs, owned and feral, were around in the tenements and neighborhoods and for some reason the sight and sound of a bicycle could provoke them. It was enough of a thing that there were specially designed “Velo Dog” revolvers often sold through bike shops, though it was a rather small cartridge for putting down large dogs with any certainty and I’m sure .32 or .38 “lemon squeezer” safety revolvers by S&W or regular snubnoses were as or more popular. Both rabies vaccines and animal control ordinances were stronger by the time semiauto pocket pistols became popular, but the real end of the “Velo Dog” was the automobile-although in an open car moving slowly, large dog attacks could still present an issue.

    Velo-dog

    The Velo-Dog (also known as a Revolver de Poche[1]) was a pocket revolver originally created in France by René Galand, son of Charles-François Galand in the late 19th century as a defense for cyclists against dog attacks.[2] The name is a compound word composed of “velocipede” and “dog”.
    An early 20th century Velo-Dog made by HDH (model name: Lincoln-Bossu).[3]

    Surviving examples vary considerably in appearance, but have certain features in common. The hammer is shrouded to avoid its snagging on clothing, so the weapon is double action only. All have short barrels and originally fired the 5.75 mm (.22 calibre) Velo-dog cartridge, although many of the Velo-Dogs produced after 1900 accepted .22 LR or .25 ACP rounds. Another feature on many late models Velo-Dogs is the lack of a trigger guard, and a trigger that folds into the body of the weapon when not in use. For the more humane, there were cartridges loaded with cayenne pepper or dust,[4] or which had bullets made from wax, wood or cork.[1]

    The original revolver uses the Galand company’s proprietary 5.75mm Velo-dog cartridge, a centrefire 5.5 mm (nominally 5.75) cartridge slightly less powerful than the 22 Long Rifle, using a jacketed bullet. The cartridge is, or was until very recently, still made by Fiocchi.[5]
    A 5.75mm Velo-Dog cartridge

    Despite the low energy of the round, a suicide case was recorded where a woman shot herself twice in the temple with a .25 (6.35 mm) Velo-dog revolver before succumbing.[6]

    I’ve seen a few Velo Dogs at gun shows. I did not know the cartridge was produced recently, although the round did play a part in centerfire pistol target competition as late in the 1950s when a competitor, having cornered what was then the known supply of old Velo Dog ammo, had a 1911 reworked to fire the cartridge, or a wildcat based on its brass. This was considered a most unsporting interpretation of the poorly worded rules, much like the Mercedes Benz pushrod engine that won Indianapolis one year, and caused a similar stink.

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  276. danand says:
    @Jane Plain

    “Was this dope absent from school the day contractions were taught?”

    Jane Plain, why yes, yes I think I may have been absent, at least of mind, to answer you’re question. I cop to the contraction error; defend affect. My attempt was to transcribe Bloomberg’s words as spoken in the video: a verbatim transcription. A transcription more accurate than what the fed employee managed with Trump’s phone call to Zelensky. Divergence was made in the case of “want to”; as Bloomberg employs/substitutes with “wanna”, at least on this occasion.

    Listening to the audio from the video, even though Bloomberg’s enunciation is shy of crystal, it’s readily evident he says “affect”, then pauses for a moment, as if to re-think/direct, prior to continuing. If you made me guess as to what he was thinking, I would go with something on the order of – So one affect on perception… But who knows? In any event, the transcription was done in reply to a comment by J. Ross, a couple days back.

    I could fain excuses, late night bleariness, cracked phone screen, overly twiddly thumbs, on and on. But the truth is it was simply a fubar by you’re unpolished, inept, ignorant, lazy, fallible, couple standard deviations to the left in IQ, consummately deplorable transcriptionist.

  277. Realist says:

    Bloomberg was correct originally about black criminals…now he is just a goddamn shitlib whore trying to get elected.

  278. @Malcolm Y

    Hannity’s always competing for the “I’m the world’s least racist guy” trophy, even though the officials are never going to award it to him. It’s why I can’t respect him. Limbaugh just steers clear of the topic rather than pander.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  279. @Achmed E. Newman

    I got my flight instructor with that one while we were waiting for the oil temperature to come off the peg one frozen day.  Good times.

  280. Baltimore had a hi-res drone always aloft so that they could get a warrant after a crime, then retrace the path of perps with precision. The article says they want it back to keep “the police” from killing, but of course it’s a certain demographic cited by Bloomberg that they really fear.

    WHY SOME BALTIMORE RESIDENTS ARE LOBBYING TO BRING BACK AERIAL SURVEILLANCE
    A handful of Baltimoreans are willing to try anything to stop their police force from killing them, and one technologist is only too happy to help.

    https://theoutline.com/post/6070/why-some-baltimore-residents-are-lobbying-to-bring-back-aerial-surveillance?zi=kphxfiyc&zd=6

    • Replies: @anon
  281. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Perhaps we should be asking ourselves is it even fair or humane to hold all different races of people to the same standard of civilized behavior? Whether it was meant to be or not, I think it’s clear that The US Constitution is not a universal document. Some people require intensive local authority in order to adhere to the standards of society; others don’t.

    This is what SEPARATE countries are for.

    Liberia started with the US constitution, did it not?  Whatever its faults, it does not have anything that is considered “racism” by “woke” standards.  This means it is the PERFECT destination for our disgruntled, “oppressed” Africans-in-America.  They need to go MLWA (Make Liberia Wakanda Again).

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  282. Aldon says:
    @bomag

    Just look at the Congo to see how Kunta Kinte handles law.

  283. Aldon says:
    @animalogic

    So how’s Detroit’s multiculturalism working out?

  284. JMcG says:
    @Jane Plain

    Diffuse and defuse. I see that error all the time now.

  285. Brutusale says:
    @Clyde

    Malden is now pretty Asian, but Bloomie was from neighboring (and nicer) Medford.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  286. El Dato says:
    @Lot

    I detect sarcasm, but just in case, that’s actually Bulgaria.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.bg

  287. Dr. X says:
    @Bitterclinger

    Monroe County is quite easy

    If you think that filling out a nearly 40-page application that is more intrusive than a rectal exam, getting fingerprinted, getting references, gettig investigated by the cops, surrendering all your medical records to the state, stating your employment history, stating what long guns and bows and arrows you possess and where they are located, taking a safety class and spending hundreds in fees is “easy,” you should try Pennsylvania… where you can get a CCW in about ten minutes for $20.

    • Replies: @Bitterclinger
  288. Kronos says:
    @Autochthon

    Art Deco and myself were focusing on the US Black population. Globally it’s R-Strategy reproduction across the board.

  289. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    They weren’t clowns – they were victims of a paradigm shift and weren’t nimble enough to make the shift. Few are. How many carriage builders succeeded in shifting over to automobiles? Studebaker was the only one. If your entire cost structure is built around selling an item for 5 figures and suddenly others are selling an equivalent item for 4 figures, there’s no way you are going to wring 90% out of your costs to match your new competitors’ prices. Things move quickly in the electronics and computer industry – one minute Blackberry is the hottest device on the market and the next minute, it’s “what’s a Blackberry?” You are always one product introduction away from being out of business.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke, NOTA
    • Replies: @Lurker
    , @Joe Stalin
    , @Dissident
  290. Aldon says:

    Multiculturalism works far worse in degenerate and liberal societies like Murica than in somewhere like the Roman Empire or Singapore.

    Stop and Frisk is just another example of this. The creatures of this world vary in their talents and behavior. Negroes are obviously by nature more prone to violent crime in many varities be they muggings, serial killing, etc. Therefore, it’s no surprise they get more attention from policies like already mentioned SaF.

    In a land like Singapore, the Law isn’t as infected with liberalism. Therefore, it can dispense all the brutality it needs to keep “Diversity” behaved.

  291. @Mr. Rational

    Not sure if it’s the same joke, but I recall hearing an airliner joke with the punchline, “I’m just a simple Pole in a complex plane.”
    http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SimplePole.html
    http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ComplexPlane.html

    Perhaps just slight differences in mathematics vs. engineering jokes?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  292. Lurker says:
    @Anonymous

    When US aid to the operators of these things stopped the civilian market for parts opened up-there were still over 500 Merlins in aircraft service then

    Not to mention numerous preserved military aircraft flying today. Most Merlin engines still in use appear to be Packard rather than RR.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    , @Anonymous
  293. SMK says: • Website
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Virtually all of them are part negroid, mulattos or quadroons.

  294. Kronos says:
    @Travis

    “But without granting amnesty to millions of Hispanics and allowing millions of Latinos and Asians to immigrate the Black population today would be 16% of the US Population.”

    You think it would’ve reached 20%+ if not for Roe v. Wade?

  295. NOTA says:
    @countenance

    That’s my theory, too. Bloomberg is using the media in Trump-like way, to spread his “scandalous, offensive” comments that just happen to appeal to a lot of voters. Having media types and the terminally woke on Twitter upset with him for a few days is a very small price to pay for that kind of publicity.

  296. Neuday says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    What, the socialists are demanding free helicopter rides? Now THERE’S a Dem program I can support!

  297. @eah

    The rich progs who run the media want those blacks dead, but can’t really admit that, so of course prog media doesn’t cover them. Ultimately they’d rather not have to worry about the off chance those blacks shoot them and theirs, so they still push gun-control hard.

  298. Kronos says:
    @ben tillman

    I have a hilarious rough-draft skit. That it basically turns out that Feminism started from a “Mad Men” style boardroom brainstorm. That multiple corporations hired such a marketing firm to encourage women to enter the workforce to depress employee (male) wages.

    Apparently, this was how female smoking was encouraged in marketing. That smoking was liberating and symbolized “torches of freedom.”

  299. Hunsdon says:
    @JMcG

    I guess a STEM gun would have been, heck, a Gauss rifle?

    • LOL: JMcG
  300. @Anonymous

    “I’m sure .32 or .38 “lemon squeezer” safety revolvers by S&W or regular snubnoses were as or more popular. ”

    It would be GREAT if they changed Federal laws to allow these “lemon squeezers” to be sold as ordinary pistols. What a self-defense gun that would be on public transit!

  301. @Harry Baldwin

    Roe Conn, WGN-AM (720) personality calls this: “keeping his Black card” as a white guy keeping up race relations with Blacks.

  302. @Anonymous

    University of Chicago physicist Robert J. Moon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_James_Moon) who built one of the first cyclotrons in the world carried a revolver whenever he went into Black areas of Chi-Town to teach kids.

  303. Lurker says:
    @Lurker

    There are currently two airworthy Lancasters (Canada and UK) and two more being brought back to airworthy condition (Canada & UK). Not counting spares that is sixteen Merlins right there.

    Started looking at lists of Mustangs and Spitfires – in total there have to be easily over 200+ flying and more being restored. Not to mention a few flyable Hurricanes and Mosquitos.

    So we’re looking at way north of 200 Merlin engines needing support globally.

  304. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anonymous

    Airports arent public though. You arent required to go there.

    That is just wrong. The street in front of your house is public. Can the police search you there for no reason? I mean, should they be able to do so? We don’t shed our Constitutional rights simply because we go out in public.

  305. Anonymous[265] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lurker

    Racing engines are built using a mix of RR postwar parts and Packard parts. Otherwise the Packard built engines are usually used in Mustangs. The story of how Packard was able to build an improved engine in less time and at reduced cost while maintaining nearly complete interchangeability is an epic one. After the war RR, controlled by the socialist government, refused to license Packard to make more Merlins, so the P-82 used the Allison with a Merlin supercharger instead. It was a contributor to Packard’s demise.

  306. Kronos says:
    @bomag

    Black Lives Matter was a way to shift power from the traditional police to the ghetto police.

    Could you clarify?

    Like sheriffs vs police?

  307. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Black Lives Murder

  308. Lurker says:
    @Jack D

    Few are. How many carriage builders succeeded in shifting over to automobiles? Studebaker was the only one.

    Similar thing happened with the railway industry. Steam loco builders switched over to diesel manufacture but succumbed one by one, failed, merged etc. Leaving only GM and GE left standing as large scale providers of locomotives – neither of whom had started as steam loco builders.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  309. nymom says:

    I feel kind of sorry for Bloomberg as he was our mayor for 12 years and wasn’t the worse mayor we ever had. Now, of course, he has been targeted as a racist so any future political career he might have hoped for is finished.

    They left out the entire quote as he said most of the murderers and their victims are black…so of course leaving out the entire quote made him look worse.

  310. @Jack D

    ” How many carriage builders succeeded in shifting over to automobiles? ”

    On 17 January 1853 the firm of ‘Swiss Railway Carriage Factory’ near Schaffhausen was formed by three businessmen – Friedrich Peyer im Hof, Heinrich Moser and Colonel Conrad Neher.

    As the name suggests, the factory initially produced railway carriages which even today are one of the major products of the factory.

    In 1860, Colonel Burnard became the first Director of Arms at the factory and, in conjunction with a gunsmith, started the Swiss Railway Carriage Factory on its way in weapon production.

    In 1863 the factory was renamed the Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft, or the Swiss Industrial Company. The name was shortened to the initials SIG for everyday usage and it is under these that they are best known today

    –Smallarms in Profile, Vol. 1, “The SIG Service Rifle”

    • Replies: @Jack D
  311. @RichardTaylor

    I thought they patted themselves on the back for being morally superior to other Whites in the “less educated areas” while never facing the realities of diversity themselves. Am I wrong on that?

    Hubert Humphrey was quite popular across the land when he was sending our boys abroad to kill folks and handing out welfare checks to all races back home.

    No part of the country is in any position to berate any other. Diversity began with crackers.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
  312. @Kronos

    Jane Mansbridge’s book is first-rate. She was based in Chicago, and Illinois is where ERA was stopped.

    She points out that they knew at the time that ERA wouldn’t necessarily mean the drafting of women– the Army has some say over that, through the War Powers clause– but it was difficult to get this across without sounding like total hypocrites.

    Also, the draft is an obligation, not a right, and the amendment said nothing about duty. On purpose.

  313. Kronos says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    Do you think the Jeffry Epstein Bombshell was dropped to mainly deter the Democratic contenders from selecting Hilary Clinton as VP?

    • Replies: @Jack D
  314. Jack D says:
    @Lurker

    If you have been building carriages for the last century, you are apt to think of an automobile as being just like a carriage but lacking horses – a “horseless carriage”, but that’s the wrong paradigm. You really have to start over with a clean sheet design so that all your prior knowledge in building carriages (locomotives, minicomputers, etc.) is actually more of an impediment than a benefit because you tend to approach the problem from the wrong angle.

    We are seeing the same thing right now where Tesla is having more success building electric cars than manufacturers that have been building internal combustion cars for a century.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational, Lurker
  315. Clyde says:
    @Brutusale

    Did I get that wrong! And I know Medford has always been upscale compared to Malden. Though mafia from Medford were the ones in the infamous raid on a bank’s safe deposit boxes about 25 years ago. Bloomie grew up in Medford! (As you said)

    Wikipedia Bloomie bio>>
    Bloomberg was born at St. Elizabeth’s Hospital, in Brighton, a neighborhood of Boston, Massachusetts, on February 14, 1942,
    The family lived in Allston until Bloomberg was two years old, when they moved to Brookline, Massachusetts, for the next two years, finally settling in the Boston suburb of Medford, Massachusetts, where he lived until after he graduated from college.[13]

    I hear Malden has some great Chinese restaurants. On the authentic side.

  316. @anon

    Rumors already circulating Yang might look at NYC mayoralty or a NY Senate race

  317. @Inquiring Mind

    If you think Bloomie’s ads are painful, wait until he finally has to come out from behind this multi-million-dollar smokescreen and take part in some debates or other live appearances. He is simply awful. He’s wanted to run for many years now and his own pricey internal polling has always said no no no

  318. @Jack D

    We are seeing the same thing right now where Tesla is having more success building electric cars than manufacturers that have been building internal combustion cars for a century.

    I don’t get the impression that hype aside, the ICE carmakers are trying to do much beyond virtue-signal and do the minimum necessary to meet blended emissions targets. The problem is that every EV sold is unprofitable, and they can’t make it up in volume. If GM made an EV with Tesla’s range, its EV losses would balloon along with EV sales volumes.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  319. @Jack D

    Solid insight there.  BYD started as a battery company.  Now it builds buses.

  320. @anon

    After many years in the work place, if I had it to do all over again, I would gladly stay home with the kids. Let the go-gurlz put up with the commute, the mind numbing meetings that accomplish nothing, etc.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  321. Jack D says:
    @Kronos

    Too triple bankshot-ish.

    Besides, the other contenders either hate Hillary’s guts (Sanders) or are too similar (Klobuchar, Warren) or else would be afraid that Hillary would arrange a Vince Foster type “suicide” for them (everyone). If anyone arranged for Epstein to “kill himself” it was Hillary herself. Just being Hillary’s friend might make you want to actually kill yourself anyway. I would say that selecting Hillary as your VP would increase your chances of some unfortunate accident or assassination befalling you tenfold.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  322. anonymous[422] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    In Massachusetts, most Dominicans are criminal scumbags. Much worse than the Puerto Ricans. There’s a city, Lawrence, infested with them that used to be an auto fraud capital. Add in drug dealing and heavy dependence on welfare. That shows the mentality of Dominicans. For both populations, the reality is that they come from corrupt, crime ridden islands and many bring that culture with them.

    https://newbostonpost.com/2017/04/19/foreign-drug-lords-found-immigration-laws-easy-to-get-around/

    Here’s just one story from NYC:

    https://nypost.com/2013/07/28/nyc-welfare-food-is-shipped-in-barrels-to-the-dominican-republic-then-sold-on-the-black-market/

    This stuff is just the tip of the iceberg. These are the New Americans the Democrats are championing.

  323. @Stan Adams

    Fumbling the Future (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/638812.Fumbling_the_Future) describes in detail how Xerox ignored the many things that came out of their Palo Alto Research Center. Among them were ethernet, the laser printer, the first windowing operating system, and the Smalltalk programming language. Xerox at the time was making pantloads of money in the copier business and never bothered to commercialize any of these ideas. Steve Jobs did.

    Compaq PCs were not as expensive as IBM machines but more expensive than the no-name brands that eventually ate their lunch. They also used non-standard parts. I vividly remember trying to replace a 3.5 inch floppy drive in a Compaq with an OEM drive. It did not fit because Compaq put the floppy slot just a bit to the left in the case, so that only a Compaq drive would fit. Last Compaq machine I ever fooled with.

  324. Ximenes says:
    @Ian Smith

    Both Mayor Pete and Amy Klobuchar have had to deal with racial mini-scandals in the last two weeks.

    Butti was accused of not having enough black officers, and arresting too many blacks for marijuana; Klobuchar’s office handled the prosecution of a then-teenage black hoodlum convicted for the shooting of a young girl in a drive-by gone wrong, who it is said may be innocent.

    Neither of them had much of a defense, but voters responded by giving Pete a win in Iowa, and a close second in NH. Klobuchar was declared the winner of the debate and scored a solid third in NH, putting in a great spot for VP contention.

    These events just may portend that the Late Obama/Black Lives Matter era is now officially over. That means Bloomberg is a lot more likely to profit from rather than “tank” due to the leaked remarks.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  325. anon[308] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lockean Proviso

    A handful of Baltimoreans are willing to try anything to stop their police force from killing them, and one technologist is only too happy to help.

    Wait, I thought that universal body cams on cops were supposed to “stop their police force from killing them”, but now those body cams be rayciss because aspiring rappers keep showing up on the vids doing bad things like, uh, starting gunfights with the cops, then losing.

    I don’t see how an aerial Panopticon will give different results.

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
  326. Jack D says:
    @Johann Ricke

    This has been Detroit’s excuse for the last 50 years and this is the strategy that brought GM’s market share in the US from over 50% down to 17% and the Chrysler product line down to 2 models (one of which is a 15 year old design). “We can’t make money on small cars”, so we will keep making big cars (even though the market doesn’t want big cars anymore). “We can’t make money on sedans”, so we will sell pickup trucks. “We cant’ make money on EVs”, so we will keep selling only IC cars. There seems to be a common thread there, which is that Detroit can’t make money period. Somehow, the Koreans and the Japanese still make money selling small cars (even building them in the US) and even Tesla made a profit on their 100% EV line up last quarter, but Detroit can’t.

  327. Jack D says:
    @Joe Stalin

    And BSA (“Birmingham Small Arms”) started with guns and switched to motorcycles.

    If you have a building full of machine tools you can make pretty much anything that is made of metal so there are a lot of companies that started out making one thing and ended up making something else. At the end of WWII, Japan was banned from building aircraft so Nakajima and Mitsubishi switched from making planes to making vehicles. Nakajima Aircraft is today known as Subaru. Their first product was a motor scooter made from left over landing gear wheels and “inspired by” (cough, reverse engineered from) the scooters that the American occupation troops were riding around in.

  328. Jack D says:
    @Ximenes

    Iowa and NH are not exactly overflowing with blacks. We’ll see how the Butt man does in SC where over have the Democrat primary voters are black.

  329. @Mr. Rational

    The Republic of Liberia was founded by freed African slaves from North America by the American Colonization Society and returned to establish a republic on African soil. Shortly after their arrival they were met by the indigenous people that inhabited the land. The Nationality law is set forth in the Aliens and Nationality Law of 1973, based on its 1847 Constitution. Current citizenship laws explicitly state being Black as a prerequisite to citizenship.[1] The first constitution allowed for women to transmit their nationality to their children, although multiple citizenship was not permitted nor is it permitted in revisions of the constitution.

    Liberia confers nationality solely on the basis of race. Under the current Liberian constitution, only persons of black African origins may obtain citizenship, although Liberian law allows members of other races to hold permanent residency status. Within Liberia itself, the wider implications of the policy are part of a heated debate in which some native Liberians themselves have acknowledged that non-black African permanent residents are crucial contributors to the country’s economic activities and innovation system, mainly the wealthy Lebanese community.[2]

    Features of the first constitution that have been upheld include:

    Article V, Section 13 of the 1847 Constitution which states: “The great object of forming these Colonies, being to provide a home for the dispersed and oppressed children of Africa, and to regenerate and enlighten this benighted continent, none but persons of colour shall be eligible to citizenship in this Republic.” The phrasing “persons of colour” was changed to “Negroes or persons of Negro descent” in a 1955 revision.

    The Liberian legislature was charged with establishing criteria for naturalisation. All applicants must be black Africans to be naturalized.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberian_nationality_law

  330. @Jim Don Bob

    Let the go-gurlz put up with the commute, the mind numbing meetings that accomplish nothing, etc.

    This is why my recent stretch of funemployment has turned out to be so much….FUN!!!

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=funemployment

    a happy time in one’s life when one is not employed and is not wanting to be employed

    • LOL: HammerJack
  331. @Steve Sailer

    Professional and serious amateur bicycle road racers used to deal with bad doggies by replacing plastic parts of frame-fitted bicycle pump heads with more expensive and heavier brass aftermarket stuff.

    Classic example is the Silca frame pump. Factory issue had a chrome-plated plastic head, but everyone replaced it with a brass, fancy Italian Campagnolo piece. It was heavier and was a more effective defense against dog attacks. Later, spray cans of mace came into vogue.

    It’s no fun to be doing a 10-mile time trial and having a dog chase you, distract you from your goal. Even if the mutt doesn’t catch you. You lose concentration, lose your mental lane, etc.

    Once I was in a regional race. Hanging in there in the main paceline, and a dog ran from a porch to starboard. Saw this sucker coming at us but he managed to run in between me and the guy in front, a distance of ~2-4 inches, tire-to-tire diameter. Normal drafting distance.

    Well, the impact sent me flying and destroyed my high-quality steel frame (Reynolds 531). Not a big fan of dogs.

  332. e says:
    @Anonymous

    They are just now hearing about Bloomberg’s comments. When they have, he’ll tank.

  333. e says:
    @Anon

    He’s already apologized for what he said. Not a man of courage.

  334. @I Have Scinde

    Forgive me if I don’t get the wording perfect:

    This Polish airliner had crashed into New York harbor. Upon investigation it was learned from the voice recorder that the Captain had flown a right-hand turn around the Statue of Liberty for sightseeing purposes. He’d announced to the passengers that they could all look out the windows at it.

    Then it was very obvious why the airplane had become unstable and crashed. All the Poles were on the right side of the plane.

    Thank you. I’ll be here all week. Try the Polish sausage.

  335. @anon

    Wait, I thought that universal body cams on cops were supposed to “stop their police force from killing them”, but now those body cams be rayciss because aspiring rappers keep showing up on the vids doing bad things like, uh, starting gunfights with the cops, then losing.

    I don’t see how an aerial Panopticon will give different results.

    Pretty sure that the drone cam results will have disparate impact too, but as long as the regular black folks can stick to the “keep police from killing” narrative then they can stay safer from aspiring rappers. If black leaders or better yet white leftists try to cite the statistics to get rid of the cameras, then crypto-conservative blacks could use the woke strategy back at them, saying that talking about such statistics is racist, empowers white supremacy, etc.

    Similarly, white liberals who notice things about immigration can cite the environment to be against it without becoming deplorable. At least that used to be the case, and if Trump wins again maybe it will become more acceptable again.

    Or this could all be wrong and the same stupid culture war kabuki theater will continue unabated, perhaps encouraged by crafty, scheming opportunists.

  336. @Reg Cæsar

    No part of the country is in any position to berate any other.

    Well, I’m not sure that matches the fact pattern. I believe certain populations of Whites were far more eager to see other White communities destroyed through government policy than others. It’s important we know that.

    It’s also true that some White groups (say, the Southies in South Boston) have said they regret pushing desegregation policies down South once it was imposed on them. I’ve heard some of them literally apologized. Other groups like the Italians up North have made it clear they don’t believe in forced integration. But I notice certain groups haven’t owned up to their past. Such as the New England Whites and those populations up near the Canadian border. It’s important they do so.

    Diversity began with crackers.

    I’m not sure what you mean, but if it’s a reference to who brought Africans over, I believe most were brought in by non-Southerners. The slave trade ended around 1808. But, it’s certainly something Southern Whites need to reflect on. However, I’d mention that the South never intended their daughters to date Black men, or for Blacks to even be roaming freely! And they maintained that system for 300 years, until our enlightened White friends up North forcefully ended it..

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  337. @RichardTaylor

    But I notice certain groups haven’t owned up to their past. Such as the New England Whites and those populations up near the Canadian border. It’s important they do so.

    Which “New England whites” are you talking about? Yankees haven’t controlled much of their territory since 1900. In the cities, 1850.

    And why is it important for whites in the north– or “North”, in your alien orthography– to apologize, but never for those in Dixie? I mean, the slave-catchers, legal or otherwise, made a mockery of federalism. (And they wussed out at the border with Upper Canada, suggesting their case was weak.) Their grandchildren voted for income taxation, Prohibition, World War, and the New Deal. I haven’t heard many apologies for those.

    However, I’d mention that the South never intended… for Blacks to even be roaming freely!

    God meant for them to be roaming freely– on the continent on which He had, in his wisdom, originally placed them.

    … if it’s a reference to who brought Africans over, I believe most were brought in by non-Southerners.

    It’s never the junkie’s fault, is it?

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
  338. @Reg Cæsar

    Which “New England whites” are you talking about?

    Somebody was manning the Union army in a war that killed over 600,000 White Americans. I think they were Northerners.

    or “North”, in your alien orthography–

    Well, I think the South should be referred to using a capital lettered because it refers to a people in a region, not just a direction. The same is true about the North. It’s not alien, capital letters are used all the time (I know they are for Southerners).

    And why is it important for whites in the north– … – to apologize, but never for those in Dixie? I mean, the slave-catchers, legal or otherwise, made a mockery of federalism. … Their grandchildren voted for income taxation, Prohibition, World War, and the New Deal. I haven’t heard many apologies for those.

    Well I believe you might want to review things like Prohibition. That was not a Southern crusade, that came from the Temperance movement, which came out of New England. That’s not controversial, look it up. And economic policy is not of the same magnitude as deliberate racial destruction. Don’t think the income tax is working? You can repeal it. How do you repeal your Black grandchildren that result from forced integration? The New Deal was hardly a Southern plan by the way, it mainly grew out of the Progressive movement. But all those policies were intended to help the people of the country, whether they were wise or not. But forced integration, forced bussing, “civil rights” which destroyed White neighborhoods … that was purely anti-White.

    God meant for them to be roaming freely– on the continent on which He had, in his wisdom, originally placed them

    Now you know no continent belongs to a particular people until the end of time. And after all, there have been plenty of people in North Africa.

    It’s never the junkie’s fault, is it?

    Well, I think I said Southerners should be aware of all that, but as I said, they didn’t bring them over or really demand them. Look at the history. You seem motivated to deny the role that certain New England White groups have played in harming White Americans. Why? And yes, I’m afraid the same silly ass attitude is found among Minnesotans and the like. They need to realize the problems they’re causing.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Dissident
  339. @Jack D

    In the chuckhole ridden Midwest the market wants big sedans and coupes with chuckholeworthy suspensions, provided they aren’t complete fuel sluts. 20-25 mpg is good enough for us. I know a guy with a seventies Cadillac HEARSE who did an LS6 swap and he is getting 20 to 22 in inner city traffic, almost 30 on the turnpike.

    It’s CAFE that says we can not have it.

    Pure BEVs don’t make economic sense yet. You buy a Tesla because it is cool, fun to drive, and a status symbol, but until gas goes to $6 or $7 a gallon the numbers don’t pencil out.

    Small cars are great for commuting but to build a good one costs as much as building a big car, or almost so. Detroit’s cost structure has to accommodate UAW pensions and health care and Japanese makers have their long legacy tail covered by homogenous Japanese medical and retirement and their workers being financially prudent.

    I’d buy a brand new seventies Dodge cop car with updated rustproofing, a Dana 60 and a four or five speed lockup converter automatic and an EFI Magnum 318 at a price they could make money on the deal….but they can’t sell me one. CAFE, five way sodium azide bags, backup camera, ABS, torque control, tire pressure indicator system, all shit I don’t want but am required to have.

    That’s why a stripped work truck-single cab, base engine, long bed 2WD-is thirty thousand dollars.

    Detroit got the pushrod V8, the THM or TorqueFlite automatic transmission, the nine inch Ford or Dana 44/60 rear end damn near perfected…then they had to abandon it for sidewinder four cylinder engines packed in like a fecal impaction.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  340. @Joe Stalin

    I’ve fired one of those. Even with low power black powder loads, pretty tough on the hands.

    I don’t always carry but when I do I carry a 1911 Commander style parts gun. .45 hollow points. Feeds great after much Dremel work. I figure if you are going to pack, pack.

  341. @Kibernetika

    Reynolds 531 is still the best shotgun barrel steel.

    • Replies: @Kibernetika
  342. One other thing of interest is that most of the slaves brought over to America were brought from the Caribbean, not directly from Africa. Of course, that’s where they originated from in previous generations, but that provides context. Black slaves were used all over the world in these colonial settings. The Spanish, Dutch, French and English did it. Slavery existed in New England. But Black slaves were most useful in hotter environments, so that’s where they were most economically valuable. Most of this happened long before the United States of America even existed.

  343. @Dr. X

    Apparently you are quite unfamiliar with the process in Monroe County. I’ve done it and it is nothing like you’ve described. Application was perhaps 3 pages, no more than 5. Did not have to give any access to medical records. Did not have to give any information about long guns or bows and arrows. Did not have to take a safety class. The fee was a little over $100 including the fingerprinting. I’ve also gotten the non-resident CCW in PA, so I’m familiar with that process as well.

    Now, I’m not defending NY state laws. I think we should go to at least shall issue like most states, if not constitutional carry (no permit required). Your unfamiliarity with Monroe County requirements is not surprising and highlights the greatest injustice about NY laws – the requirements highly variable by county and municipality. Even within a given jurisdiction, discretion is left to the judge who can deny the application at will, no reason required.

  344. @Federalist

    More accurately, it’s the control of guns that would be useful for defending oneself from government. AR15s use the same ammunition as M4s, which also bothers the gungrabbers.

    • Replies: @Federalist
  345. Dissident says:
    @SFG

    Bloomberg was for same-sex marriage and immigration. That’s fine for a mayor of New York.

    Fine? Or a given; sadly necessary to be elected?

    (Giuliani was also all-in with the sodomite and immivasion agendas.)
    ~ ~ ~

  346. @Twodees Partain

    True. I remember when the Jim Brady group was called Handgun Control, Inc. and the focus was getting handguns, especially inexpensive handguns, “off the streets.” Now, the gun grabbers are focused on relatively expensive rifles that are not ideal for most street crimes because they cannot be easily concealed but that are ideal in defending oneself from the government.

    • Thanks: Twodees Partain
  347. Dissident says:
    @Jack D

    Things move quickly in the electronics and computer industry – one minute Blackberry is the hottest device on the market and the next minute, it’s “what’s a Blackberry?”

    Alas. For talk, text and basic email, I’m not aware of any mobile phone that can beat or even closely rival the vintage Blackberries with the physical QWERTY keyboards.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  348. @RichardTaylor

    …Prohibition. That was not a Southern crusade, that came from the Temperance movement, which came out of New England.

    Like football and basketball*, you adopt stupid ideas from New England then say it’s someone else’s fault? The dates of ratification are public record. Dixie was first. I am unable to find ratification dates for the 18th Amendment for Rhode Island and Connecticut. Where are they buried?

    *Canadian inventions, actually.

    By the way, my experience with Prohibition happened in Florida. I had been drinking legally and responsibly in the Northeast for nearly three years. Then the Sunshine State, where I’m sent for training, tells me I’m too young. Nuts. Now Florida’s idiotic rule is nationwide.

    But forced integration, forced bussing, “civil rights” which destroyed White neighborhoods … that was purely anti-White.

    I wasn’t aware you were forced to kiss your charges.

    The courts pushed that business, not Congress. Anyway, the girl in Topeka wasn’t bused into another neighborhood. She was prohibited from attending the school in her own neighborhood. She had to sue to keep from being bused out. That struck normal people around the Western world, hardly just New Englanders, as unfair.

    If you think “Yankees” are bad, just try defending pseudosegregation, i.e., Jim Crow, to a modern Canadian, Australian, or Briton. You haven’t seen moral superiority in action until you’ve done so.

    How do you repeal your Black grandchildren that result from forced integration?

    You prevent rape in the first place.

    Look at the history. You seem motivated to deny the role that certain New England White groups have played in harming White Americans.

    Name these groups. Unitarians? Trivial. They reach one percent of the population in precisely one county– in the Ozarks. The last Unitarian presidential candidate was embraced by the South, and nowhere else.

    And yes, I’m afraid the same silly ass attitude is found among Minnesotans and the like.

    Actually, the Scandinavians are much worse than so-called Yankees in this regard. They have no colonial guilt hanging over them. Thus they’re pure. Jews and Irish even more so.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
  349. @Dissident

    Blackberries (Crackberries) were very popular in the federal government, but RIM sat on their laurels/dollars until technology got so far ahead of them they could not catch up. I never had one but a lot of people loooooooooved them, and the keyboard was a big part of it.

    • Replies: @Dissident
  350. Dissident says:
    @RichardTaylor

    Well I believe you might want to review things like Prohibition.

    Are you and Reg both so sure that Prohibition was a net negative? Arguments to the contrary have been made, including, if I recall correctly, on these very comment pages.

    Of the images below, the first is particularly apropos to your exchange.

  351. @CarlosHathitachiTheSecond

    Reynolds 531 is still the best shotgun barrel steel.

    Carlos H., I’d never heard that before. I don’t know much about shotguns, excepting how to use them in extremis. Bike frames made with 531 are normally double-butted, meaning the pieces are thicker at the ends where they are fitted and brazed.

  352. @Reg Cæsar

    Southerners had a lot of actual power prior to the Civil War, but not afterwards. Consequences of losing a war. Trust me, the South wasn’t the driving force behind getting Prohibition. Or Progressivism. Or the New Deal. But most importantly, they weren’t pushing desegregation anywhere.

    If you think “Yankees” are bad, just try defending pseudosegregation, i.e., Jim Crow, to a modern Canadian, Australian, or Briton. You haven’t seen moral superiority in action until you’ve done so.

    Oh I’m sure about that. That’s why, sadly, I’m afraid that only proximity to Blacks and other races will wake them from their stupor of moral superiority. Canada, Australia and the UK change their tune as they get larger Brown populations.

    As to the role of the New England crowd, I’d refer you to the work of Kevin MacDonald.

  353. Dissident says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    I’m one of the Blackberry holdouts. But for how much longer? The future appears increasingly grim. For a while now, have been experiencing seemingly random and unaccounted for trouble such as Bluetooth breaking-up while listening to mp3 audio files– even when I’m barely a foot from the phone, and, worse, suddenly being asked Hello?! Hello?! by someone I’m in the middle of speaking with and can hear just fine.

    I emphatically do not want to take the plunge that would be Android or iOS. Go back to a “dumb” flip phone? Too tedious to type text messages, and I need to be able to use the phone as a WiFi hotspot. So no good option that I am aware of.

  354. That’s why, sadly, I’m afraid that only proximity to Blacks and other races will wake them from their stupor of moral superiority.

    I think everyone already knows that no territory with more than a 10% black population has ever made any positive contribution to civilization.

    As to the role of the New England crowd, I’d refer you to the work of Kevin MacDonald.

    Hooknoses don’t count as New Englanders. They do take to the white man’s weather, though. And universities.

    But most importantly, they weren’t pushing desegregation anywhere.

    They didn’t have to. It had been present since 1619. Vermont had more free white men than South Carolina; Iowa had as many as both combined. Yet South Carolina got five districts, while Vermont only got three and Iowa two.

    Why were those states cheated? Because they, not South Carolina, were segregated.

    Examine the Mammy Monument, and tell me that’s segregation! She’s going to eat that child!

    https://i0.wp.com/rediscovering-black-history.blogs.archives.gov/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/mammy-statue-1.jpg?fit=1680%2C3312&ssl=1

  355. @Desiderius

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