From Bloomberg:
CityLab+ Equality
These Cities Are Limiting Traffic Stops for Minor OffensesPhiladelphia, San Francisco and the state of Virginia have taken steps to deter police from pulling over drivers for violations that don’t threaten public safety.
By Sarah Holder
February 2, 2023 at 9:19 AMThe death of Tyre Nichols after a traffic stop in Memphis has reignited calls to limit how often police pull over cars for minor offenses and to eliminate so-called pretext stops that disproportionately affect people of color. …
Getting pulled over is the most common way the public comes into contact with police. It’s also a common catalyst for police violence. At least 86 US traffic stops turned deadly last year alone, according to Mapping Police Violence. Several localities began looking at ways to limit such interactions during the 2020 protest movement over police brutality, citing evidence that police disproportionately pull over Black drivers for minor offenses and that not all traffic enforcement is a necessary part of public safety.
… Data showed that in Philadelphia, not only were minor traffic stops invasive and humiliating, as Thomas has described them, they were largely ineffective at keeping illegal items off the streets: Of the more than 300,000 traffic stops made in Philly between October 2018 and September 2019, only about 1% of them turned up drugs or a gun, according to the local public defender’s office.
In other words, fear of traffic stops and occasional searches were helping keep guns off the street before the Racial Reckoning.
In general, I’m fascinated by how liberals turn into the NRA whenever the question changes from Point of Sale gun control to Point of Use gun control.
For example, there’s a long NYT investigative article on the abuses of the mostly black Memphis PD’s Scorpions squad that largely consists of young aspiring rappers claiming, not implausibly, that they were roughed up by the Scorpions after the cops found them carrying a gun. But they all have excuses like it was their cousin’s gun and he got it legally and besides I need it for defense because I got enemies, which the squad of NYT reporters writing the story treat as perfectly valid reasons.
Black drivers made up 72% of those stopped, but were 34% less likely than White drivers to be found holding anything illegal.
After a long, collaborative process to draft and redraft the policy, the legislation, called Driving Equality, started being enforced in March 2022. Almost a year into the change, preliminary data from the program shows that overall traffic stops are down significantly, says Thomas, and that there’s an increase in the likelihood of finding weapons during those stops.
It sounds quite possible that more Philadelphians are, in response, carrying illegal handguns.
But it also shows that Black people are still disproportionately being pulled over.
Which might have something to do with how badly blacks have been driving on average since May 25, 2020, but nobody knows that happened. It’s more or less unthinkable to the current media mindset that blacks could possibly have started behaving worse lately in response to recent events that the media cheered on. No, anything blacks do that’s unfortunate must be the result of redlining and slavery etc in the distant past. Which is why the newspapers have cut way back on reporting the news when it comes to blacks in favor of regurgitating the olds.
Eventually, somebody in the MSM will publish an article about how the effects of racism are so pervasive that blacks suddenly became worse drivers in 2020s, which is obviously due to the Eisenhower Administration building Racist Roads. Pete Buttigieg will be interviewed on how this worsening of black traffic fatality rates proves we must spend billions to eradicate Eisenhower’s Racist Roads.
Of course. They’re not intended to be effective keeping illegal items off the streets.
This contradicts the claim that blacks are victims of pretextual stops. The cops appear to be stopping blacks for traffic infractions, while whites appear to be targeted for the perceived likelihood that they are breaking other laws.
Not much of a Commonwealth anymore, is it. What with all those drifters and grifters from all around the country and the world in two or three counties* clamped onto the federal teat along the Potomac.
A most uninformative title, Steve. We thought Hizzonor might have passed on. Why not just paste the article’s headline?
*and several independent cities; it’s a Virginia thing
Well traffic laws were invented by the White patriarchy and as a consequence, project White supremacy upon beautiful black bodies, so yet again, dat be raciss…
Nobody knows like CARSTAR...
Bloomberg:
Crazy like a Fox, float like a Butterfield.
Love it. The same people who love to cite how this or that phenomena is part of an interconnected web that explains the likelihood of certain negative outcomes totally toss that out the window when it comes to enforcement of basic social behavior. Traffic stops for things that in and of themselves are not directly related to public safety couldn’t possibly be linked to the likelihood that the perpetrator might be engaged in other activities that are direct threats to the health and safety of the public.
Or targeted due to de facto race quotas, more likely.
Off topic, Ukraine:
1. I’m trying to remember the name of a Twitter commenter. I think he was an Australian retired naval officer. He was one of the “Russia is doing better than they look” crowd last spring. My interest in re-checking is just to see how/if he adjusted his priors.
2. Who all is good to follow on Ukraine? I was following last spring, but got busy with work and stopped following it. I like the podcasts with Michael Kofman (that are not paywalled). Not looking for “you go, girl” style stuff though, from either side. I’ve tried Defense Politics Asia YT, but the level of day to day, town to town detail is too intense and not enough synthesis or speculation on the future. Also (mea culpa) the English level is a little annoying. I do appreciate his efforts though. I’m fine with a contrarian or the opposite. Just looking for something grown up though. E.g. Mearshimer is way smarter and more scholarly than Macgregor.
One thing to consider: “finding a gun” in a traffic stop/search in most of the country does not mean it will be “illegal” and result in a statistic. At one extreme, as of January first half the states in the union are constitutional carry meaning no license required. Plenty of those states are fairly recent, five passed laws in 2022.
Of course, you can’t also be a felon or other prohibited person, and there are lots of other wrinkles in our tangle of “20,000 gun control laws.”
None of the cities and states listed in the title of the quoted article are constitutional carry, and I read in the Wikipedia article “Open carry is generally legal under Pennsylvania state law for those 18+. However, exceptions are made for Philadelphia as a “City of the First Class”, in a vehicle, or during a declared state of emergency unless one has a carry permit.” Last time I checked it’s really easy to get a permit, but for at least the last few years Philadelphia really delays the process, way past the mandated 45 days.
San Francisco has been almost as restrictive as you can be for carry permits for residents of it, Virginia isn’t so bad as Purple states go including about open carry but I don’t know how that applies to inside cars.
“Of the more than 300,000 traffic stops made in Philly between October 2018 and September 2019, only about 1% of them turned up drugs or a gun”
So during one year, 3,000 traffic stops turn up a violation. That’s a rate of 3,000/365 = 8.2 violations per day.
Bogus and irrelevant. As another commentator noted.
Traffic stops are not made to “detect illegal items in vehicles.”
Police don’t have X-ray vision.
Stops are made because of traffic law violations like unsafe driving, speeding, cell phone use in school zones, improper auto license plates, suspected drunk driving, calls made to police for reckless driving or criminal activity like car theft, etc.
“Illegal items” are merely a side effect of a stop. Smoking weed, being drunk (or smelling of booze) or in Dem controlled cities, admitting to carrying a firearm, are then followed up by a ticket or arrest.
Also, if “racism” is the universal explanation for differences, then stats must be adjusted for elimination of “same race” arrests and arresting officers. And also for cases like speeding, reckless driving and tinted windows where the race of the driver can’t be detected by the police.
Of course when the Comrades promote the myth of “systemic racism” as opposed to the facts of crimes committed by racial groups, then it is always blamed on racism.
Even, like in Memphis, where the cops/victim were both black.
This is painfully obvious. But the lying media continues to publish fake news.
iSteve:
Woke don’t know simple game theory.
“No one’s invaded us, let’s unilaterally disarm.” “We’ve never been robbed, let’s leave the doors unlocked.” etc.
Traffic stops are not made to "detect illegal items in vehicles."
Police don't have X-ray vision.
Stops are made because of traffic law violations like unsafe driving, speeding, cell phone use in school zones, improper auto license plates, suspected drunk driving, calls made to police for reckless driving or criminal activity like car theft, etc.
"Illegal items" are merely a side effect of a stop. Smoking weed, being drunk (or smelling of booze) or in Dem controlled cities, admitting to carrying a firearm, are then followed up by a ticket or arrest.
Also, if "racism" is the universal explanation for differences, then stats must be adjusted for elimination of "same race" arrests and arresting officers. And also for cases like speeding, reckless driving and tinted windows where the race of the driver can't be detected by the police.
Of course when the Comrades promote the myth of "systemic racism" as opposed to the facts of crimes committed by racial groups, then it is always blamed on racism.
Even, like in Memphis, where the cops/victim were both black.
This is painfully obvious. But the lying media continues to publish fake news.Replies: @Vito Klein
driving a Jaguar with DC plates in Utah.
In my area at least, I have noticed an INCREASE in unsafe driving in the last few years (after the start of Covid and the George Floyd protests). People are increasingly aggressive and discourteous on the road. You see more people disregarding rules and demonstrating blatant disregard for other drivers.
More broadly speaking, I’m seeing a decline in manners. Rude employees, customers who are demanding, people not acknowledging each other’s presence in public.
This cuts across ethnic lines. All races are doing this.
It’s like nobody gives a damn about anybody anymore. Everybody believes that they come first. Nobody else matters. You just think about yourself and have no obligation to anyone else.
It’s like there has been a breakdown in cooperativeness and even the concept of “society.” You’re seeing the emergence of a culture that combines cutthroat competition, social disconnection/reclusiveness, and “amoral familism.” A huge number of anti-social smartphone addicts, who all compete over scarce opportunities and feel no sense of obligation to their fellow man. On top of that, throw on oddly bizarre speech constraints and cultural practices/rituals.
There are some super-chargers, like the cell phone atomization, self-absorption, rudeness.
But basically it's "diversity". There simply is not a "society" anymore. A "society" implies some sort of common community culture--norms, language, history, traditions--and genes that bind people together.
Now we're all just random atoms in this wonderful rainbow hued sprawling marketplace, bossed by the super-state.Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
1. I'm trying to remember the name of a Twitter commenter. I think he was an Australian retired naval officer. He was one of the "Russia is doing better than they look" crowd last spring. My interest in re-checking is just to see how/if he adjusted his priors.
2. Who all is good to follow on Ukraine? I was following last spring, but got busy with work and stopped following it. I like the podcasts with Michael Kofman (that are not paywalled). Not looking for "you go, girl" style stuff though, from either side. I've tried Defense Politics Asia YT, but the level of day to day, town to town detail is too intense and not enough synthesis or speculation on the future. Also (mea culpa) the English level is a little annoying. I do appreciate his efforts though. I'm fine with a contrarian or the opposite. Just looking for something grown up though. E.g. Mearshimer is way smarter and more scholarly than Macgregor.Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
The New Atlas, the Duran or the Military and Foreign Affairs Network – all on YouTube – are nice sources.
More broadly speaking, I'm seeing a decline in manners. Rude employees, customers who are demanding, people not acknowledging each other's presence in public.
This cuts across ethnic lines. All races are doing this.
It's like nobody gives a damn about anybody anymore. Everybody believes that they come first. Nobody else matters. You just think about yourself and have no obligation to anyone else.
It's like there has been a breakdown in cooperativeness and even the concept of "society." You're seeing the emergence of a culture that combines cutthroat competition, social disconnection/reclusiveness, and "amoral familism." A huge number of anti-social smartphone addicts, who all compete over scarce opportunities and feel no sense of obligation to their fellow man. On top of that, throw on oddly bizarre speech constraints and cultural practices/rituals.Replies: @HammerJack, @Steve Sailer, @AnotherDad
It’s called The Great Unraveling and it’s a feature, not a bug, in the program our overlords have been applying for the past several decades.
Similar to how Marxist guerrillas would destroy infrastructure and sow terror among the populace in order to facilitate a total breakdown in society.
Both are confident that they will hold the reins in the dictatorship that follows. Who’s to say they’re wrong?
More broadly speaking, I'm seeing a decline in manners. Rude employees, customers who are demanding, people not acknowledging each other's presence in public.
This cuts across ethnic lines. All races are doing this.
It's like nobody gives a damn about anybody anymore. Everybody believes that they come first. Nobody else matters. You just think about yourself and have no obligation to anyone else.
It's like there has been a breakdown in cooperativeness and even the concept of "society." You're seeing the emergence of a culture that combines cutthroat competition, social disconnection/reclusiveness, and "amoral familism." A huge number of anti-social smartphone addicts, who all compete over scarce opportunities and feel no sense of obligation to their fellow man. On top of that, throw on oddly bizarre speech constraints and cultural practices/rituals.Replies: @HammerJack, @Steve Sailer, @AnotherDad
Yes, I think things are getting shoddier in this decade. On the other hand, it’s not necessarily cut-throated ruthlessness. For example, maybe I’m wrong, but my impression is that tipping has gotten more generous. A lot of the “racial reckoning” mania on the part of white people was the urge to be even nicer to blacks than before.
Reminds me. When I had my moving business, I tracked all the data I could.
I had several good helpers one year, including one who was black; this would have been in the early nineties. He was good -- but they were all good. I didn't keep employing anyone who wasn't.
He got just about twice the tips my white helpers got. I guess the sight of a black actually working hard really stood out.
“Yes, I think things are getting shoddier in this decade.”
Indeed.
“On the other hand, it’s not necessarily cut-throated ruthlessness”
You aren’t NOTICING.
https://www.salon.com/2023/02/06/george-santos-is-the-superstar-maga-deserves/
“A lot of the “racial reckoning” mania on the part of white people was the urge to be even nicer to blacks than before“
No. It’s Generation Z taking the lead to be kind and considerate. You could learn a thing or two from them in that regard. They’re the future, not us.
‘A lot of the “racial reckoning” mania on the part of white people was the urge to be even nicer to blacks than before.’
Reminds me. When I had my moving business, I tracked all the data I could.
I had several good helpers one year, including one who was black; this would have been in the early nineties. He was good — but they were all good. I didn’t keep employing anyone who wasn’t.
He got just about twice the tips my white helpers got. I guess the sight of a black actually working hard really stood out.
I do believe you’ve surpassed yourself there, Corvinus. That remark is both idiotic and completely unsupported by the evidence. Antifa? Black Lives Matter rioters?
Blacks seem to have issues with transportation in general.
More broadly speaking, I'm seeing a decline in manners. Rude employees, customers who are demanding, people not acknowledging each other's presence in public.
This cuts across ethnic lines. All races are doing this.
It's like nobody gives a damn about anybody anymore. Everybody believes that they come first. Nobody else matters. You just think about yourself and have no obligation to anyone else.
It's like there has been a breakdown in cooperativeness and even the concept of "society." You're seeing the emergence of a culture that combines cutthroat competition, social disconnection/reclusiveness, and "amoral familism." A huge number of anti-social smartphone addicts, who all compete over scarce opportunities and feel no sense of obligation to their fellow man. On top of that, throw on oddly bizarre speech constraints and cultural practices/rituals.Replies: @HammerJack, @Steve Sailer, @AnotherDad
I.e. “diversity”.
There are some super-chargers, like the cell phone atomization, self-absorption, rudeness.
But basically it’s “diversity”. There simply is not a “society” anymore. A “society” implies some sort of common community culture–norms, language, history, traditions–and genes that bind people together.
Now we’re all just random atoms in this wonderful rainbow hued sprawling marketplace, bossed by the super-state.
Professor Robert Putnam discussed these issues in his book "Bowling Alone." Steve Sailer reviewed it.
https://vdare.com/articles/diversity-causes-bowling-alone Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus
All is proceeding as predicted by Robert Putnam.
Should random drugs testing of athletes be abandoned if less than one per cent of tests are positive?
If we simply admit, even tacitly, that blacks are a childishly violent group that will always require more intensive policing than others, things will go a lot better for us all. This is something we used to understand, until the 1960s.
Liberal Negro-worship has gone off the deep end lately. It was always bad, but it has now reached the level of pure insanity.
Yes. Everything is getting shoddier. Work habits, politeness, observance of safety protocols, eating/dietary habits, policing, customer service, social scene, etc. It’s like Americans have stopped trying and now just want to do the minimum necessary to get through life.
Blacks claim that they’re tipped less. See the article below.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/05/black-restaurant-workers-received-less-in-tips-than-others-during-pandemic.html
Check this out. Tipping seems to have declined.
https://www.foodandwine.com/news/restaurant-tipping-rates-decline-pandemic
Tipping then declined even further. See below.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/surveys-americans-are-tipping-less-and-inflation-may-be-to-blame-11668520655
There are some super-chargers, like the cell phone atomization, self-absorption, rudeness.
But basically it's "diversity". There simply is not a "society" anymore. A "society" implies some sort of common community culture--norms, language, history, traditions--and genes that bind people together.
Now we're all just random atoms in this wonderful rainbow hued sprawling marketplace, bossed by the super-state.Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
I agree.
Professor Robert Putnam discussed these issues in his book “Bowling Alone.” Steve Sailer reviewed it.
https://vdare.com/articles/diversity-causes-bowling-alone
districtneighborhood. (And North Hollywood. West Hollywood is a full-fledged city.) East LA is a hamlet, i.e., a "census-designated place", and, as such, only Honolulu is more populous in the US, on a technicality.Wanna know another official LA neighborhood, since 2010?https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Little_Bangladesh_sign_2.jpg/2880px-Little_Bangladesh_sign_2.jpgReplies: @stari_momak
Source –> http://www.chronicle.com/blogs/percolator/robert-putnam-says-his-research-was-twisted/30357
Putnam, in an interview on NPR in 2007, said “I do need to step back a minute and say I think that the – it’s not merely a fact that America’s becoming more diverse. It’s a benefit. America will – all of us will, over the long run, benefit from being a more diverse, more heterogeneous place. Places that are more diverse have higher rates of growth on average and they have better cuisine. And it’s just a more interesting place to live.”
“So in the long run, waves of immigration like we’re going through now and that we’ve gone through in the past and increasing diversity is good for a society. But what we discovered in this research, somewhat to our surprise, was that in the short run the more ethnically diverse the neighborhood you live in, the more you – every – all of us tend to hunker down, to pull in. The more diverse – and when I say all of us, I mean all of us. I mean blacks and whites and Asians and Latinos, all of us. The more diverse the group around us, ethnically, in our neighborhood, the less we trust anybody, including people who look like us. Whites trust whites less. Blacks trust blacks less, in more diverse settings.”
…
“Look, I want to make sure that your listeners understand that I think over the long run, as we get to know one another, and as we begin to see things that we have in common with people who don’t look like us, this allergy to diversity tends to diminish and to go away. So this is not something that I think as an argument against immigration. On the contrary, actually, I think in the long run we’ll all be better. But I don’t think that progressives and integrationists like me do our cause any service by hiding from ourselves the fact that it’s not easy.”
Nobody knows de trubble I seen
Nobody knows like CARSTAR…
Agreed and well said Steve S.
NYT , WaPost all J Lib Democrats, the ACLU switch hats and sound like the most NRA gun nut whenever street Blacks are found with illegal guns.
Also, idiot, Libertarian true believer Lunatics like Ron and Rand Paul are just as bad.
Look what KY Senator Rand Paul’s response to organized BLM rioting and looting. Rand Paul said he was on BLM sides and sponsored the Federal “Justice For Breonna Taylor Act” (Breonna Taylor was the female top diva in Louisville’s most notorious hard drug (cocaine, Crack cocaine and opioids) gang, crew – the was a killed a shootout when police tried to serve a warrant on her gang leader boyfriend the gang leader open fire on the cops, the cops returned with guns and there was a shoot out and she was killed – sounds like justice was delivered for Breonna Taylor!
Rand Paul also worked to get all Black African American men released from Prison who were put there for har drug possession. “It’s a victimless crime, people should have control of their own bodies”. No Rand Paul.
There reason there were so many Black African American young men put in prison for hard drug possession is that these are known violent gang bangers and no one will testify against them for things like robbery, violent assault, rape or even murder so those cops and prosecutors who still care about murder and mayhem put the worst violent gang bangers in prison for drug possession, they don’t need neighbors to testifying they just have physical proof of opioids, meth, crack cocaine.
When and Antifa BLM Mob tried to beat Rand Paul and his pretty blonde wife to near death in a DC Antifa BLM Riot, Rand Paul tried to appeal to BLM leaders that this was a misunderstanding, that he was on their side. (True, a reason Rand Paul was made Amren Traitor of the year)
Sigh.
Thanks Steve.
J Ryan
The Political Cesspool
Professor Robert Putnam discussed these issues in his book "Bowling Alone." Steve Sailer reviewed it.
https://vdare.com/articles/diversity-causes-bowling-alone Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus
Eastern Tennessee? Pigeon Forge? Dollywood? Gatlinburg? What’s up with them hillbillies? Is it all the tourists?
How does trust fare in tourist traps?
As with the Smokies, we were in both places on recent vacations. The “other races” are American Indians. They’ve been here all along.
North Minneapolis* is the black-dominant part of the city, the closest thing to a classic ghetto in the entire state. This is less about distrusting diversity than about distrusting other blacks. Truly diverse South Minneapolis is where the big riot took place.
*A city section defined by street labeling, with no official status; even Hollywood is officially a
districtneighborhood. (And North Hollywood. West Hollywood is a full-fledged city.) East LA is a hamlet, i.e., a “census-designated place”, and, as such, only Honolulu is more populous in the US, on a technicality.Wanna know another official LA neighborhood, since 2010?
I'm guessing geography, physical geography, plays a large part. The hills and mountains create small divisions of folks that don't trust one another. Think of Mr. Sailer's favorite region in the whole wide world, the Caucuses. Of course it could be that people disposed genetically and/or culturally to be distrustful move to and remain in mountainous areas in the first place. I wonder how Switzerland or South Tirol scores on trust.
If the cops there are anything like my department, there are basically three ways a gun gets found on a “traffic stop”. First, a random cop happens to pull someone over and does a search, either because he gets suspicious, there’s a warrant, or he tows the car for something (no insurance or license). This is super rare now, for obvious reasons. Second, the traffic stop is actually specifically related to a call for service. Such as a fight with a gun call and cops stop a car leaving the area, do a search and find a fun. This is a little less rare, although most smart cops’ threshold for the accuracy of suspect descriptions has changed (“Is that blue or green? The description said ‘teal’. Nevermind.”) Third, a specific investigative unit (like a gang unit) has info that a potential shooter is carrying a gun and they stop him.
Law enforcement in general has moved progressively from the first example towards the third. If you were a cop standing trial for shooting a guy who turned out to be unarmed, would you rather tell a jury that it was just some random guy without a front plate, or a well documented gang member with dozens of Instagram photos of him holding a gun? So I would expect that a higher proportion of stops in 2023 are of people that the cops know or very strongly suspect has a gun.
Finally, I wonder how uniform the statistics are concerning what a “traffic stop” is. If a guy is wanted for murder and a SWAT team stops his car and arrests him with a gun, does every department call that a “traffic stop”? Or is it part of a an investigation? One of the obvious problems with law enforcement statistics is that they are mostly collected by thousands of people who specifically sought out one of the least pleasant jobs in America because they loathe office work. Show me the Venn diagram of people willing to get bitten at work and who get off on carefully categorizing things just for the joy of it.
You’re linking to Salon? Here? That’s a bold strategy, Cotton.
districtneighborhood. (And North Hollywood. West Hollywood is a full-fledged city.) East LA is a hamlet, i.e., a "census-designated place", and, as such, only Honolulu is more populous in the US, on a technicality.Wanna know another official LA neighborhood, since 2010?https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Little_Bangladesh_sign_2.jpg/2880px-Little_Bangladesh_sign_2.jpgReplies: @stari_momak
“Eastern Tennessee? Pigeon Forge? Dollywood? Gatlinburg? What’s up with them hillbillies? Is it all the tourists?”
I’m guessing geography, physical geography, plays a large part. The hills and mountains create small divisions of folks that don’t trust one another. Think of Mr. Sailer’s favorite region in the whole wide world, the Caucuses. Of course it could be that people disposed genetically and/or culturally to be distrustful move to and remain in mountainous areas in the first place. I wonder how Switzerland or South Tirol scores on trust.
Well, Huckleberry, it’s the content that matters, not the source.
Impugning an entire generation is your style. Never cease to amaze me.
Professor Robert Putnam discussed these issues in his book "Bowling Alone." Steve Sailer reviewed it.
https://vdare.com/articles/diversity-causes-bowling-alone Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus
Putnam said that “in the short term, he writes, there are clearly challenges, but over the long haul, he argues that diversity has a range of benefits for a society, and that the fragmentation and distrust can be overcome. It’s not an easy process, but in the end it’s “well worth the effort.’” He cites the integration of institutions like the U.S. Army as proof that diversity can work. Putnam’s brief contends that the 2007 paper has been “twisted” to make a case against race-conscious admissions, asserting that, on the contrary, his “extensive research and experience confirm the substantial benefits of diversity, including racial and ethnic diversity, to our society.”
Source –> http://www.chronicle.com/blogs/percolator/robert-putnam-says-his-research-was-twisted/30357
Putnam, in an interview on NPR in 2007, said “I do need to step back a minute and say I think that the – it’s not merely a fact that America’s becoming more diverse. It’s a benefit. America will – all of us will, over the long run, benefit from being a more diverse, more heterogeneous place. Places that are more diverse have higher rates of growth on average and they have better cuisine. And it’s just a more interesting place to live.”
“So in the long run, waves of immigration like we’re going through now and that we’ve gone through in the past and increasing diversity is good for a society. But what we discovered in this research, somewhat to our surprise, was that in the short run the more ethnically diverse the neighborhood you live in, the more you – every – all of us tend to hunker down, to pull in. The more diverse – and when I say all of us, I mean all of us. I mean blacks and whites and Asians and Latinos, all of us. The more diverse the group around us, ethnically, in our neighborhood, the less we trust anybody, including people who look like us. Whites trust whites less. Blacks trust blacks less, in more diverse settings.”
…
“Look, I want to make sure that your listeners understand that I think over the long run, as we get to know one another, and as we begin to see things that we have in common with people who don’t look like us, this allergy to diversity tends to diminish and to go away. So this is not something that I think as an argument against immigration. On the contrary, actually, I think in the long run we’ll all be better. But I don’t think that progressives and integrationists like me do our cause any service by hiding from ourselves the fact that it’s not easy.”
NYT , WaPost all J Lib Democrats, the ACLU switch hats and sound like the most NRA gun nut whenever street Blacks are found with illegal guns.
Also, idiot, Libertarian true believer Lunatics like Ron and Rand Paul are just as bad.
Look what KY Senator Rand Paul's response to organized BLM rioting and looting. Rand Paul said he was on BLM sides and sponsored the Federal "Justice For Breonna Taylor Act" (Breonna Taylor was the female top diva in Louisville's most notorious hard drug (cocaine, Crack cocaine and opioids) gang, crew - the was a killed a shootout when police tried to serve a warrant on her gang leader boyfriend the gang leader open fire on the cops, the cops returned with guns and there was a shoot out and she was killed - sounds like justice was delivered for Breonna Taylor!
Rand Paul also worked to get all Black African American men released from Prison who were put there for har drug possession. "It's a victimless crime, people should have control of their own bodies". No Rand Paul.
There reason there were so many Black African American young men put in prison for hard drug possession is that these are known violent gang bangers and no one will testify against them for things like robbery, violent assault, rape or even murder so those cops and prosecutors who still care about murder and mayhem put the worst violent gang bangers in prison for drug possession, they don't need neighbors to testifying they just have physical proof of opioids, meth, crack cocaine.
When and Antifa BLM Mob tried to beat Rand Paul and his pretty blonde wife to near death in a DC Antifa BLM Riot, Rand Paul tried to appeal to BLM leaders that this was a misunderstanding, that he was on their side. (True, a reason Rand Paul was made Amren Traitor of the year)
Sigh.
Thanks Steve.
J Ryan
The Political CesspoolReplies: @Anonymous
*fake blonde
(And quite rather hideous, imo)
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/08/18/27609F9300000578-0-image-m-123_1428513258019.jpg
Rand Paul’s wife is hideous? You’re out of your freaking mind.