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From Bloomberg:

CityLab+ Equality
These Cities Are Limiting Traffic Stops for Minor Offenses

Philadelphia, San Francisco and the state of Virginia have taken steps to deter police from pulling over drivers for violations that don’t threaten public safety.

By Sarah Holder
February 2, 2023 at 9:19 AM

The death of Tyre Nichols after a traffic stop in Memphis has reignited calls to limit how often police pull over cars for minor offenses and to eliminate so-called pretext stops that disproportionately affect people of color. …

Getting pulled over is the most common way the public comes into contact with police. It’s also a common catalyst for police violence. At least 86 US traffic stops turned deadly last year alone, according to Mapping Police Violence. Several localities began looking at ways to limit such interactions during the 2020 protest movement over police brutality, citing evidence that police disproportionately pull over Black drivers for minor offenses and that not all traffic enforcement is a necessary part of public safety.

… Data showed that in Philadelphia, not only were minor traffic stops invasive and humiliating, as Thomas has described them, they were largely ineffective at keeping illegal items off the streets: Of the more than 300,000 traffic stops made in Philly between October 2018 and September 2019, only about 1% of them turned up drugs or a gun, according to the local public defender’s office.

In other words, fear of traffic stops and occasional searches were helping keep guns off the street before the Racial Reckoning.

In general, I’m fascinated by how liberals turn into the NRA whenever the question changes from Point of Sale gun control to Point of Use gun control.

For example, there’s a long NYT investigative article on the abuses of the mostly black Memphis PD’s Scorpions squad that largely consists of young aspiring rappers claiming, not implausibly, that they were roughed up by the Scorpions after the cops found them carrying a gun. But they all have excuses like it was their cousin’s gun and he got it legally and besides I need it for defense because I got enemies, which the squad of NYT reporters writing the story treat as perfectly valid reasons.

Black drivers made up 72% of those stopped, but were 34% less likely than White drivers to be found holding anything illegal.

After a long, collaborative process to draft and redraft the policy, the legislation, called Driving Equality, started being enforced in March 2022. Almost a year into the change, preliminary data from the program shows that overall traffic stops are down significantly, says Thomas, and that there’s an increase in the likelihood of finding weapons during those stops.

It sounds quite possible that more Philadelphians are, in response, carrying illegal handguns.

But it also shows that Black people are still disproportionately being pulled over.

Which might have something to do with how badly blacks have been driving on average since May 25, 2020, but nobody knows that happened. It’s more or less unthinkable to the current media mindset that blacks could possibly have started behaving worse lately in response to recent events that the media cheered on. No, anything blacks do that’s unfortunate must be the result of redlining and slavery etc in the distant past. Which is why the newspapers have cut way back on reporting the news when it comes to blacks in favor of regurgitating the olds.

Eventually, somebody in the MSM will publish an article about how the effects of racism are so pervasive that blacks suddenly became worse drivers in 2020s, which is obviously due to the Eisenhower Administration building Racist Roads. Pete Buttigieg will be interviewed on how this worsening of black traffic fatality rates proves we must spend billions to eradicate Eisenhower’s Racist Roads.

 
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  1. … Data showed that in Philadelphia, not only were minor traffic stops invasive and humiliating, as Thomas has described them, they were largely ineffective at keeping illegal items off the streets.

    Of course. They’re not intended to be effective keeping illegal items off the streets.

    • Agree: Renard
  2. Black drivers made up 72% of those stopped, but were 34% less likely than White drivers to be found holding anything illegal.

    This contradicts the claim that blacks are victims of pretextual stops. The cops appear to be stopping blacks for traffic infractions, while whites appear to be targeted for the perceived likelihood that they are breaking other laws.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @ben tillman


    while whites appear to be targeted for the perceived likelihood that they are breaking other laws
     
    Or targeted due to de facto race quotas, more likely.
  3. the state of Virginia

    Not much of a Commonwealth anymore, is it. What with all those drifters and grifters from all around the country and the world in two or three counties* clamped onto the federal teat along the Potomac.

    Bloomberg

    A most uninformative title, Steve. We thought Hizzonor might have passed on. Why not just paste the article’s headline?

    *and several independent cities; it’s a Virginia thing

  4. Well traffic laws were invented by the White patriarchy and as a consequence, project White supremacy upon beautiful black bodies, so yet again, dat be raciss…

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @usNthem


    Well traffic laws were invented by the White patriarchy and as a consequence, project White supremacy upon beautiful black bodies, so yet again, dat be raciss…

     

    Nobody knows de trubble I seen
    Nobody knows like CARSTAR...
  5. Bloomberg:

    Of the more than 300,000 traffic stops made in Philly between October 2018 and September 2019, only about 1% of them turned up drugs or a gun

    the policymaking body for the San Francisco Police Department, voted to prohibit stops for nine violations that data showed only led to gun recoveries and arrests less than 2% of the time

    Crazy like a Fox, float like a Butterfield.

  6. Love it. The same people who love to cite how this or that phenomena is part of an interconnected web that explains the likelihood of certain negative outcomes totally toss that out the window when it comes to enforcement of basic social behavior. Traffic stops for things that in and of themselves are not directly related to public safety couldn’t possibly be linked to the likelihood that the perpetrator might be engaged in other activities that are direct threats to the health and safety of the public.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  7. @ben tillman

    Black drivers made up 72% of those stopped, but were 34% less likely than White drivers to be found holding anything illegal.
     
    This contradicts the claim that blacks are victims of pretextual stops. The cops appear to be stopping blacks for traffic infractions, while whites appear to be targeted for the perceived likelihood that they are breaking other laws.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    while whites appear to be targeted for the perceived likelihood that they are breaking other laws

    Or targeted due to de facto race quotas, more likely.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  8. Off topic, Ukraine:

    1. I’m trying to remember the name of a Twitter commenter. I think he was an Australian retired naval officer. He was one of the “Russia is doing better than they look” crowd last spring. My interest in re-checking is just to see how/if he adjusted his priors.

    2. Who all is good to follow on Ukraine? I was following last spring, but got busy with work and stopped following it. I like the podcasts with Michael Kofman (that are not paywalled). Not looking for “you go, girl” style stuff though, from either side. I’ve tried Defense Politics Asia YT, but the level of day to day, town to town detail is too intense and not enough synthesis or speculation on the future. Also (mea culpa) the English level is a little annoying. I do appreciate his efforts though. I’m fine with a contrarian or the opposite. Just looking for something grown up though. E.g. Mearshimer is way smarter and more scholarly than Macgregor.

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @shale boi

    The New Atlas, the Duran or the Military and Foreign Affairs Network - all on YouTube - are nice sources.

  9. One thing to consider: “finding a gun” in a traffic stop/search in most of the country does not mean it will be “illegal” and result in a statistic. At one extreme, as of January first half the states in the union are constitutional carry meaning no license required. Plenty of those states are fairly recent, five passed laws in 2022.

    Of course, you can’t also be a felon or other prohibited person, and there are lots of other wrinkles in our tangle of “20,000 gun control laws.”

    None of the cities and states listed in the title of the quoted article are constitutional carry, and I read in the Wikipedia article “Open carry is generally legal under Pennsylvania state law for those 18+. However, exceptions are made for Philadelphia as a “City of the First Class”, in a vehicle, or during a declared state of emergency unless one has a carry permit.” Last time I checked it’s really easy to get a permit, but for at least the last few years Philadelphia really delays the process, way past the mandated 45 days.

    San Francisco has been almost as restrictive as you can be for carry permits for residents of it, Virginia isn’t so bad as Purple states go including about open carry but I don’t know how that applies to inside cars.

  10. “Of the more than 300,000 traffic stops made in Philly between October 2018 and September 2019, only about 1% of them turned up drugs or a gun”

    So during one year, 3,000 traffic stops turn up a violation. That’s a rate of 3,000/365 = 8.2 violations per day.

  11. Black drivers made up 72% of those stopped, but were 34% less likely than White drivers to be found holding anything illegal.

    Bogus and irrelevant. As another commentator noted.

    Traffic stops are not made to “detect illegal items in vehicles.”

    Police don’t have X-ray vision.

    Stops are made because of traffic law violations like unsafe driving, speeding, cell phone use in school zones, improper auto license plates, suspected drunk driving, calls made to police for reckless driving or criminal activity like car theft, etc.

    “Illegal items” are merely a side effect of a stop. Smoking weed, being drunk (or smelling of booze) or in Dem controlled cities, admitting to carrying a firearm, are then followed up by a ticket or arrest.

    Also, if “racism” is the universal explanation for differences, then stats must be adjusted for elimination of “same race” arrests and arresting officers. And also for cases like speeding, reckless driving and tinted windows where the race of the driver can’t be detected by the police.

    Of course when the Comrades promote the myth of “systemic racism” as opposed to the facts of crimes committed by racial groups, then it is always blamed on racism.

    Even, like in Memphis, where the cops/victim were both black.

    This is painfully obvious. But the lying media continues to publish fake news.

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Vito Klein
    @Muggles


    Stops are made because of traffic law violations like ...
     
    driving a Jaguar with DC plates in Utah.
  12. iSteve:

    In other words, fear of traffic stops and occasional searches were helping keep guns off the street before the Racial Reckoning.
    ….
    It sounds quite possible that more Philadelphians are, in response, carrying illegal handguns.

    Woke don’t know simple game theory.

    “No one’s invaded us, let’s unilaterally disarm.” “We’ve never been robbed, let’s leave the doors unlocked.” etc.

  13. @Muggles

    Black drivers made up 72% of those stopped, but were 34% less likely than White drivers to be found holding anything illegal.
     
    Bogus and irrelevant. As another commentator noted.

    Traffic stops are not made to "detect illegal items in vehicles."

    Police don't have X-ray vision.

    Stops are made because of traffic law violations like unsafe driving, speeding, cell phone use in school zones, improper auto license plates, suspected drunk driving, calls made to police for reckless driving or criminal activity like car theft, etc.

    "Illegal items" are merely a side effect of a stop. Smoking weed, being drunk (or smelling of booze) or in Dem controlled cities, admitting to carrying a firearm, are then followed up by a ticket or arrest.

    Also, if "racism" is the universal explanation for differences, then stats must be adjusted for elimination of "same race" arrests and arresting officers. And also for cases like speeding, reckless driving and tinted windows where the race of the driver can't be detected by the police.

    Of course when the Comrades promote the myth of "systemic racism" as opposed to the facts of crimes committed by racial groups, then it is always blamed on racism.

    Even, like in Memphis, where the cops/victim were both black.

    This is painfully obvious. But the lying media continues to publish fake news.

    Replies: @Vito Klein

    Stops are made because of traffic law violations like …

    driving a Jaguar with DC plates in Utah.

  14. In my area at least, I have noticed an INCREASE in unsafe driving in the last few years (after the start of Covid and the George Floyd protests). People are increasingly aggressive and discourteous on the road. You see more people disregarding rules and demonstrating blatant disregard for other drivers.

    More broadly speaking, I’m seeing a decline in manners. Rude employees, customers who are demanding, people not acknowledging each other’s presence in public.

    This cuts across ethnic lines. All races are doing this.

    It’s like nobody gives a damn about anybody anymore. Everybody believes that they come first. Nobody else matters. You just think about yourself and have no obligation to anyone else.

    It’s like there has been a breakdown in cooperativeness and even the concept of “society.” You’re seeing the emergence of a culture that combines cutthroat competition, social disconnection/reclusiveness, and “amoral familism.” A huge number of anti-social smartphone addicts, who all compete over scarce opportunities and feel no sense of obligation to their fellow man. On top of that, throw on oddly bizarre speech constraints and cultural practices/rituals.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @JohnnyWalker123

    It's called The Great Unraveling and it's a feature, not a bug, in the program our overlords have been applying for the past several decades.

    Similar to how Marxist guerrillas would destroy infrastructure and sow terror among the populace in order to facilitate a total breakdown in society.

    Both are confident that they will hold the reins in the dictatorship that follows. Who's to say they're wrong?

    , @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Yes, I think things are getting shoddier in this decade. On the other hand, it's not necessarily cut-throated ruthlessness. For example, maybe I'm wrong, but my impression is that tipping has gotten more generous. A lot of the "racial reckoning" mania on the part of white people was the urge to be even nicer to blacks than before.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Colin Wright, @Farenheit, @JohnnyWalker123

    , @AnotherDad
    @JohnnyWalker123


    It’s like there has been a breakdown in cooperativeness and even the concept of “society.” You’re seeing the emergence of a culture that combines cutthroat competition, social disconnection/reclusiveness, and “amoral familism.” A huge number of anti-social smartphone addicts, who all compete over scarce opportunities and feel no sense of obligation to their fellow man. On top of that, throw on oddly bizarre speech constraints and cultural practices/rituals.
     
    I.e. "diversity".

    There are some super-chargers, like the cell phone atomization, self-absorption, rudeness.

    But basically it's "diversity". There simply is not a "society" anymore. A "society" implies some sort of common community culture--norms, language, history, traditions--and genes that bind people together.

    Now we're all just random atoms in this wonderful rainbow hued sprawling marketplace, bossed by the super-state.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

  15. @shale boi
    Off topic, Ukraine:

    1. I'm trying to remember the name of a Twitter commenter. I think he was an Australian retired naval officer. He was one of the "Russia is doing better than they look" crowd last spring. My interest in re-checking is just to see how/if he adjusted his priors.

    2. Who all is good to follow on Ukraine? I was following last spring, but got busy with work and stopped following it. I like the podcasts with Michael Kofman (that are not paywalled). Not looking for "you go, girl" style stuff though, from either side. I've tried Defense Politics Asia YT, but the level of day to day, town to town detail is too intense and not enough synthesis or speculation on the future. Also (mea culpa) the English level is a little annoying. I do appreciate his efforts though. I'm fine with a contrarian or the opposite. Just looking for something grown up though. E.g. Mearshimer is way smarter and more scholarly than Macgregor.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country

    The New Atlas, the Duran or the Military and Foreign Affairs Network – all on YouTube – are nice sources.

  16. @JohnnyWalker123
    In my area at least, I have noticed an INCREASE in unsafe driving in the last few years (after the start of Covid and the George Floyd protests). People are increasingly aggressive and discourteous on the road. You see more people disregarding rules and demonstrating blatant disregard for other drivers.

    More broadly speaking, I'm seeing a decline in manners. Rude employees, customers who are demanding, people not acknowledging each other's presence in public.

    This cuts across ethnic lines. All races are doing this.

    It's like nobody gives a damn about anybody anymore. Everybody believes that they come first. Nobody else matters. You just think about yourself and have no obligation to anyone else.

    It's like there has been a breakdown in cooperativeness and even the concept of "society." You're seeing the emergence of a culture that combines cutthroat competition, social disconnection/reclusiveness, and "amoral familism." A huge number of anti-social smartphone addicts, who all compete over scarce opportunities and feel no sense of obligation to their fellow man. On top of that, throw on oddly bizarre speech constraints and cultural practices/rituals.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Steve Sailer, @AnotherDad

    It’s called The Great Unraveling and it’s a feature, not a bug, in the program our overlords have been applying for the past several decades.

    Similar to how Marxist guerrillas would destroy infrastructure and sow terror among the populace in order to facilitate a total breakdown in society.

    Both are confident that they will hold the reins in the dictatorship that follows. Who’s to say they’re wrong?

  17. @JohnnyWalker123
    In my area at least, I have noticed an INCREASE in unsafe driving in the last few years (after the start of Covid and the George Floyd protests). People are increasingly aggressive and discourteous on the road. You see more people disregarding rules and demonstrating blatant disregard for other drivers.

    More broadly speaking, I'm seeing a decline in manners. Rude employees, customers who are demanding, people not acknowledging each other's presence in public.

    This cuts across ethnic lines. All races are doing this.

    It's like nobody gives a damn about anybody anymore. Everybody believes that they come first. Nobody else matters. You just think about yourself and have no obligation to anyone else.

    It's like there has been a breakdown in cooperativeness and even the concept of "society." You're seeing the emergence of a culture that combines cutthroat competition, social disconnection/reclusiveness, and "amoral familism." A huge number of anti-social smartphone addicts, who all compete over scarce opportunities and feel no sense of obligation to their fellow man. On top of that, throw on oddly bizarre speech constraints and cultural practices/rituals.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Steve Sailer, @AnotherDad

    Yes, I think things are getting shoddier in this decade. On the other hand, it’s not necessarily cut-throated ruthlessness. For example, maybe I’m wrong, but my impression is that tipping has gotten more generous. A lot of the “racial reckoning” mania on the part of white people was the urge to be even nicer to blacks than before.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    “Yes, I think things are getting shoddier in this decade.”

    Indeed.

    “On the other hand, it’s not necessarily cut-throated ruthlessness”

    You aren’t NOTICING.

    https://www.salon.com/2023/02/06/george-santos-is-the-superstar-maga-deserves/

    “A lot of the “racial reckoning” mania on the part of white people was the urge to be even nicer to blacks than before“

    No. It’s Generation Z taking the lead to be kind and considerate. You could learn a thing or two from them in that regard. They’re the future, not us.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Hunsdon

    , @Colin Wright
    @Steve Sailer

    'A lot of the “racial reckoning” mania on the part of white people was the urge to be even nicer to blacks than before.'

    Reminds me. When I had my moving business, I tracked all the data I could.

    I had several good helpers one year, including one who was black; this would have been in the early nineties. He was good -- but they were all good. I didn't keep employing anyone who wasn't.

    He got just about twice the tips my white helpers got. I guess the sight of a black actually working hard really stood out.

    , @Farenheit
    @Steve Sailer

    All is proceeding as predicted by Robert Putnam.

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Steve Sailer

    Yes. Everything is getting shoddier. Work habits, politeness, observance of safety protocols, eating/dietary habits, policing, customer service, social scene, etc. It's like Americans have stopped trying and now just want to do the minimum necessary to get through life.


    Steve Sailer: On the other hand, it’s not necessarily cut-throated ruthlessness. For example, maybe I’m wrong, but my impression is that tipping has gotten more generous. A lot of the “racial reckoning” mania on the part of white people was the urge to be even nicer to blacks than before.

     

    Blacks claim that they're tipped less. See the article below.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/05/black-restaurant-workers-received-less-in-tips-than-others-during-pandemic.html


    During the pandemic, tips given to Black restaurant workers have declined more than have tips to workers in other racial groups, a report by labor advocacy group One Fair Wage says. Nearly 90% of Black workers have reported their tips have declined by 50% or more. By comparison, 78% of all workers said their tips had declined by that much.

     


    Even prior to Covid-19, Black food service workers said they receive fewer tips on average than their White counterparts, with some earning as little as $10 an hour.

     

    Check this out. Tipping seems to have declined.

    https://www.foodandwine.com/news/restaurant-tipping-rates-decline-pandemic


    According to Square, the median tip percentage at quick-service restaurants was 19.73 percent in February 2020, but increased to 22.22 percent by April of that year. Tips at full-service restaurants increased from 19.45 percent to 21.2 percent during the same time period. By August 2021, tips had decreased to 18.6 percent at quick-service restaurants, and had slipped to 19.1 percent at full-service spots. So yes, by last August, diners were tipping less than they did before the pandemic.
     
    Tipping then declined even further. See below.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/surveys-americans-are-tipping-less-and-inflation-may-be-to-blame-11668520655


    Are Americans reaching a tipping point when it comes to, well, tipping?

    That could be the big takeaway from recent surveys that signal a possible shift in attitudes about gratuities. One survey, from Popmenu, a restaurant tech company, found a decline in the percentage of consumers who say they tip 20% or more in restaurants — from 56% in 2021 to 43% this year.

    Another survey, from PlayUSA, a website that covers online gambling, found that 60% of Americans said they would like to do away with tipping altogether.
     

  18. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Yes, I think things are getting shoddier in this decade. On the other hand, it's not necessarily cut-throated ruthlessness. For example, maybe I'm wrong, but my impression is that tipping has gotten more generous. A lot of the "racial reckoning" mania on the part of white people was the urge to be even nicer to blacks than before.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Colin Wright, @Farenheit, @JohnnyWalker123

    “Yes, I think things are getting shoddier in this decade.”

    Indeed.

    “On the other hand, it’s not necessarily cut-throated ruthlessness”

    You aren’t NOTICING.

    https://www.salon.com/2023/02/06/george-santos-is-the-superstar-maga-deserves/

    “A lot of the “racial reckoning” mania on the part of white people was the urge to be even nicer to blacks than before“

    No. It’s Generation Z taking the lead to be kind and considerate. You could learn a thing or two from them in that regard. They’re the future, not us.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Corvinus


    '...No. It’s Generation Z taking the lead to be kind and considerate. You could learn a thing or two from them in that regard. They’re the future, not us.'
     
    I do believe you've surpassed yourself there, Corvinus. That remark is both idiotic and completely unsupported by the evidence. Antifa? Black Lives Matter rioters?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Hunsdon
    @Corvinus

    You're linking to Salon? Here? That's a bold strategy, Cotton.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  19. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Yes, I think things are getting shoddier in this decade. On the other hand, it's not necessarily cut-throated ruthlessness. For example, maybe I'm wrong, but my impression is that tipping has gotten more generous. A lot of the "racial reckoning" mania on the part of white people was the urge to be even nicer to blacks than before.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Colin Wright, @Farenheit, @JohnnyWalker123

    ‘A lot of the “racial reckoning” mania on the part of white people was the urge to be even nicer to blacks than before.’

    Reminds me. When I had my moving business, I tracked all the data I could.

    I had several good helpers one year, including one who was black; this would have been in the early nineties. He was good — but they were all good. I didn’t keep employing anyone who wasn’t.

    He got just about twice the tips my white helpers got. I guess the sight of a black actually working hard really stood out.

  20. @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    “Yes, I think things are getting shoddier in this decade.”

    Indeed.

    “On the other hand, it’s not necessarily cut-throated ruthlessness”

    You aren’t NOTICING.

    https://www.salon.com/2023/02/06/george-santos-is-the-superstar-maga-deserves/

    “A lot of the “racial reckoning” mania on the part of white people was the urge to be even nicer to blacks than before“

    No. It’s Generation Z taking the lead to be kind and considerate. You could learn a thing or two from them in that regard. They’re the future, not us.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Hunsdon

    ‘…No. It’s Generation Z taking the lead to be kind and considerate. You could learn a thing or two from them in that regard. They’re the future, not us.’

    I do believe you’ve surpassed yourself there, Corvinus. That remark is both idiotic and completely unsupported by the evidence. Antifa? Black Lives Matter rioters?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Colin Wright

    Impugning an entire generation is your style. Never cease to amaze me.

  21. Which might have something to do with how badly blacks have been driving on average since May 25, 2020, but nobody knows that happened.

    Blacks seem to have issues with transportation in general.

  22. @JohnnyWalker123
    In my area at least, I have noticed an INCREASE in unsafe driving in the last few years (after the start of Covid and the George Floyd protests). People are increasingly aggressive and discourteous on the road. You see more people disregarding rules and demonstrating blatant disregard for other drivers.

    More broadly speaking, I'm seeing a decline in manners. Rude employees, customers who are demanding, people not acknowledging each other's presence in public.

    This cuts across ethnic lines. All races are doing this.

    It's like nobody gives a damn about anybody anymore. Everybody believes that they come first. Nobody else matters. You just think about yourself and have no obligation to anyone else.

    It's like there has been a breakdown in cooperativeness and even the concept of "society." You're seeing the emergence of a culture that combines cutthroat competition, social disconnection/reclusiveness, and "amoral familism." A huge number of anti-social smartphone addicts, who all compete over scarce opportunities and feel no sense of obligation to their fellow man. On top of that, throw on oddly bizarre speech constraints and cultural practices/rituals.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Steve Sailer, @AnotherDad

    It’s like there has been a breakdown in cooperativeness and even the concept of “society.” You’re seeing the emergence of a culture that combines cutthroat competition, social disconnection/reclusiveness, and “amoral familism.” A huge number of anti-social smartphone addicts, who all compete over scarce opportunities and feel no sense of obligation to their fellow man. On top of that, throw on oddly bizarre speech constraints and cultural practices/rituals.

    I.e. “diversity”.

    There are some super-chargers, like the cell phone atomization, self-absorption, rudeness.

    But basically it’s “diversity”. There simply is not a “society” anymore. A “society” implies some sort of common community culture–norms, language, history, traditions–and genes that bind people together.

    Now we’re all just random atoms in this wonderful rainbow hued sprawling marketplace, bossed by the super-state.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @AnotherDad

    I agree.

    Professor Robert Putnam discussed these issues in his book "Bowling Alone." Steve Sailer reviewed it.

    https://vdare.com/articles/diversity-causes-bowling-alone


    Want a neighbor you can count on? Move to Montana. That's one conclusion you might draw from a Harvard University study released today, which finds that Los Angeles residents trust each other less than most other Americans. The study is billed as the largest-ever survey on "civic engagement" - activities such as joining social or community groups, voting and simply making friends. … And it links L.A.'s low standing to the area's ethnic diversity. Those who live in more homogeneous places, such as New Hampshire, Montana or Lewiston, Maine, do more with friends and are more involved in community affairs or politics than residents of more cosmopolitan areas, the study said. Los Angeles residents are among the least trusting of people such as neighbors, co-workers, shop clerks and police, the study said. L.A. tied with Boston, Chicago, and eastern Tennessee. Only north Minneapolis scored worse. Angelenos also trust people of other races less than residents of just about everywhere else. San Diego tied Los Angeles' dismal "inter-racial trust" score. The only cities that did worse were Phoenix and Charlotte, N.C. The best places, in terms of trusting others and those of other races, were Bismarck, N.D., and rural South Dakota, the study said. … The survey of 30,000 Americans in 40 communities was led by Harvard political scientist Robert D. Putnam [author of Bowling Alone : The Collapse and Revival of American Community].
     

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus

  23. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Yes, I think things are getting shoddier in this decade. On the other hand, it's not necessarily cut-throated ruthlessness. For example, maybe I'm wrong, but my impression is that tipping has gotten more generous. A lot of the "racial reckoning" mania on the part of white people was the urge to be even nicer to blacks than before.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Colin Wright, @Farenheit, @JohnnyWalker123

    All is proceeding as predicted by Robert Putnam.

  24. Should random drugs testing of athletes be abandoned if less than one per cent of tests are positive?

  25. If we simply admit, even tacitly, that blacks are a childishly violent group that will always require more intensive policing than others, things will go a lot better for us all. This is something we used to understand, until the 1960s.

    Liberal Negro-worship has gone off the deep end lately. It was always bad, but it has now reached the level of pure insanity.

  26. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Yes, I think things are getting shoddier in this decade. On the other hand, it's not necessarily cut-throated ruthlessness. For example, maybe I'm wrong, but my impression is that tipping has gotten more generous. A lot of the "racial reckoning" mania on the part of white people was the urge to be even nicer to blacks than before.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Colin Wright, @Farenheit, @JohnnyWalker123

    Yes. Everything is getting shoddier. Work habits, politeness, observance of safety protocols, eating/dietary habits, policing, customer service, social scene, etc. It’s like Americans have stopped trying and now just want to do the minimum necessary to get through life.

    Steve Sailer: On the other hand, it’s not necessarily cut-throated ruthlessness. For example, maybe I’m wrong, but my impression is that tipping has gotten more generous. A lot of the “racial reckoning” mania on the part of white people was the urge to be even nicer to blacks than before.

    Blacks claim that they’re tipped less. See the article below.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/05/black-restaurant-workers-received-less-in-tips-than-others-during-pandemic.html

    During the pandemic, tips given to Black restaurant workers have declined more than have tips to workers in other racial groups, a report by labor advocacy group One Fair Wage says. Nearly 90% of Black workers have reported their tips have declined by 50% or more. By comparison, 78% of all workers said their tips had declined by that much.

    Even prior to Covid-19, Black food service workers said they receive fewer tips on average than their White counterparts, with some earning as little as $10 an hour.

    Check this out. Tipping seems to have declined.

    https://www.foodandwine.com/news/restaurant-tipping-rates-decline-pandemic

    According to Square, the median tip percentage at quick-service restaurants was 19.73 percent in February 2020, but increased to 22.22 percent by April of that year. Tips at full-service restaurants increased from 19.45 percent to 21.2 percent during the same time period. By August 2021, tips had decreased to 18.6 percent at quick-service restaurants, and had slipped to 19.1 percent at full-service spots. So yes, by last August, diners were tipping less than they did before the pandemic.

    Tipping then declined even further. See below.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/surveys-americans-are-tipping-less-and-inflation-may-be-to-blame-11668520655

    Are Americans reaching a tipping point when it comes to, well, tipping?

    That could be the big takeaway from recent surveys that signal a possible shift in attitudes about gratuities. One survey, from Popmenu, a restaurant tech company, found a decline in the percentage of consumers who say they tip 20% or more in restaurants — from 56% in 2021 to 43% this year.

    Another survey, from PlayUSA, a website that covers online gambling, found that 60% of Americans said they would like to do away with tipping altogether.

    • Thanks: Renard
  27. @AnotherDad
    @JohnnyWalker123


    It’s like there has been a breakdown in cooperativeness and even the concept of “society.” You’re seeing the emergence of a culture that combines cutthroat competition, social disconnection/reclusiveness, and “amoral familism.” A huge number of anti-social smartphone addicts, who all compete over scarce opportunities and feel no sense of obligation to their fellow man. On top of that, throw on oddly bizarre speech constraints and cultural practices/rituals.
     
    I.e. "diversity".

    There are some super-chargers, like the cell phone atomization, self-absorption, rudeness.

    But basically it's "diversity". There simply is not a "society" anymore. A "society" implies some sort of common community culture--norms, language, history, traditions--and genes that bind people together.

    Now we're all just random atoms in this wonderful rainbow hued sprawling marketplace, bossed by the super-state.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    I agree.

    Professor Robert Putnam discussed these issues in his book “Bowling Alone.” Steve Sailer reviewed it.

    https://vdare.com/articles/diversity-causes-bowling-alone

    Want a neighbor you can count on? Move to Montana. That’s one conclusion you might draw from a Harvard University study released today, which finds that Los Angeles residents trust each other less than most other Americans. The study is billed as the largest-ever survey on “civic engagement” – activities such as joining social or community groups, voting and simply making friends. … And it links L.A.’s low standing to the area’s ethnic diversity. Those who live in more homogeneous places, such as New Hampshire, Montana or Lewiston, Maine, do more with friends and are more involved in community affairs or politics than residents of more cosmopolitan areas, the study said. Los Angeles residents are among the least trusting of people such as neighbors, co-workers, shop clerks and police, the study said. L.A. tied with Boston, Chicago, and eastern Tennessee. Only north Minneapolis scored worse. Angelenos also trust people of other races less than residents of just about everywhere else. San Diego tied Los Angeles’ dismal “inter-racial trust” score. The only cities that did worse were Phoenix and Charlotte, N.C. The best places, in terms of trusting others and those of other races, were Bismarck, N.D., and rural South Dakota, the study said. … The survey of 30,000 Americans in 40 communities was led by Harvard political scientist Robert D. Putnam [author of Bowling Alone : The Collapse and Revival of American Community].

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @JohnnyWalker123


    L.A. tied with Boston, Chicago, and eastern Tennessee.
     
    Eastern Tennessee? Pigeon Forge? Dollywood? Gatlinburg? What's up with them hillbillies? Is it all the tourists?

    How does trust fare in tourist traps?


    The best places, in terms of trusting others and those of other races, were Bismarck, N.D., and rural South Dakota, the study said.

     

    As with the Smokies, we were in both places on recent vacations. The "other races" are American Indians. They've been here all along.

    Only north Minneapolis scored worse.
     
    North Minneapolis* is the black-dominant part of the city, the closest thing to a classic ghetto in the entire state. This is less about distrusting diversity than about distrusting other blacks. Truly diverse South Minneapolis is where the big riot took place.

    *A city section defined by street labeling, with no official status; even Hollywood is officially a district neighborhood. (And North Hollywood. West Hollywood is a full-fledged city.) East LA is a hamlet, i.e., a "census-designated place", and, as such, only Honolulu is more populous in the US, on a technicality.

    Wanna know another official LA neighborhood, since 2010?


    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Little_Bangladesh_sign_2.jpg/2880px-Little_Bangladesh_sign_2.jpg

    Replies: @stari_momak

    , @Corvinus
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Putnam said that “in the short term, he writes, there are clearly challenges, but over the long haul, he argues that diversity has a range of benefits for a society, and that the fragmentation and distrust can be overcome. It’s not an easy process, but in the end it’s “well worth the effort.’” He cites the integration of institutions like the U.S. Army as proof that diversity can work. Putnam’s brief contends that the 2007 paper has been “twisted” to make a case against race-conscious admissions, asserting that, on the contrary, his “extensive research and experience confirm the substantial benefits of diversity, including racial and ethnic diversity, to our society.”

    Source –> http://www.chronicle.com/blogs/percolator/robert-putnam-says-his-research-was-twisted/30357

    Putnam, in an interview on NPR in 2007, said “I do need to step back a minute and say I think that the – it’s not merely a fact that America’s becoming more diverse. It’s a benefit. America will – all of us will, over the long run, benefit from being a more diverse, more heterogeneous place. Places that are more diverse have higher rates of growth on average and they have better cuisine. And it’s just a more interesting place to live.”

    “So in the long run, waves of immigration like we’re going through now and that we’ve gone through in the past and increasing diversity is good for a society. But what we discovered in this research, somewhat to our surprise, was that in the short run the more ethnically diverse the neighborhood you live in, the more you – every – all of us tend to hunker down, to pull in. The more diverse – and when I say all of us, I mean all of us. I mean blacks and whites and Asians and Latinos, all of us. The more diverse the group around us, ethnically, in our neighborhood, the less we trust anybody, including people who look like us. Whites trust whites less. Blacks trust blacks less, in more diverse settings.”

    …

    “Look, I want to make sure that your listeners understand that I think over the long run, as we get to know one another, and as we begin to see things that we have in common with people who don’t look like us, this allergy to diversity tends to diminish and to go away. So this is not something that I think as an argument against immigration. On the contrary, actually, I think in the long run we’ll all be better. But I don’t think that progressives and integrationists like me do our cause any service by hiding from ourselves the fact that it’s not easy.”

  28. @usNthem
    Well traffic laws were invented by the White patriarchy and as a consequence, project White supremacy upon beautiful black bodies, so yet again, dat be raciss…

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Well traffic laws were invented by the White patriarchy and as a consequence, project White supremacy upon beautiful black bodies, so yet again, dat be raciss…

    Nobody knows de trubble I seen
    Nobody knows like CARSTAR

  29. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Agreed and well said Steve S.

    NYT , WaPost all J Lib Democrats, the ACLU switch hats and sound like the most NRA gun nut whenever street Blacks are found with illegal guns.

    Also, idiot, Libertarian true believer Lunatics like Ron and Rand Paul are just as bad.

    Look what KY Senator Rand Paul’s response to organized BLM rioting and looting. Rand Paul said he was on BLM sides and sponsored the Federal “Justice For Breonna Taylor Act” (Breonna Taylor was the female top diva in Louisville’s most notorious hard drug (cocaine, Crack cocaine and opioids) gang, crew – the was a killed a shootout when police tried to serve a warrant on her gang leader boyfriend the gang leader open fire on the cops, the cops returned with guns and there was a shoot out and she was killed – sounds like justice was delivered for Breonna Taylor!

    Rand Paul also worked to get all Black African American men released from Prison who were put there for har drug possession. “It’s a victimless crime, people should have control of their own bodies”. No Rand Paul.

    There reason there were so many Black African American young men put in prison for hard drug possession is that these are known violent gang bangers and no one will testify against them for things like robbery, violent assault, rape or even murder so those cops and prosecutors who still care about murder and mayhem put the worst violent gang bangers in prison for drug possession, they don’t need neighbors to testifying they just have physical proof of opioids, meth, crack cocaine.

    When and Antifa BLM Mob tried to beat Rand Paul and his pretty blonde wife to near death in a DC Antifa BLM Riot, Rand Paul tried to appeal to BLM leaders that this was a misunderstanding, that he was on their side. (True, a reason Rand Paul was made Amren Traitor of the year)

    Sigh.

    Thanks Steve.

    J Ryan
    The Political Cesspool

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @anonymous


    When and Antifa BLM Mob tried to beat Rand Paul and his pretty blonde wife
     
    *fake blonde

    (And quite rather hideous, imo)

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

  30. @JohnnyWalker123
    @AnotherDad

    I agree.

    Professor Robert Putnam discussed these issues in his book "Bowling Alone." Steve Sailer reviewed it.

    https://vdare.com/articles/diversity-causes-bowling-alone


    Want a neighbor you can count on? Move to Montana. That's one conclusion you might draw from a Harvard University study released today, which finds that Los Angeles residents trust each other less than most other Americans. The study is billed as the largest-ever survey on "civic engagement" - activities such as joining social or community groups, voting and simply making friends. … And it links L.A.'s low standing to the area's ethnic diversity. Those who live in more homogeneous places, such as New Hampshire, Montana or Lewiston, Maine, do more with friends and are more involved in community affairs or politics than residents of more cosmopolitan areas, the study said. Los Angeles residents are among the least trusting of people such as neighbors, co-workers, shop clerks and police, the study said. L.A. tied with Boston, Chicago, and eastern Tennessee. Only north Minneapolis scored worse. Angelenos also trust people of other races less than residents of just about everywhere else. San Diego tied Los Angeles' dismal "inter-racial trust" score. The only cities that did worse were Phoenix and Charlotte, N.C. The best places, in terms of trusting others and those of other races, were Bismarck, N.D., and rural South Dakota, the study said. … The survey of 30,000 Americans in 40 communities was led by Harvard political scientist Robert D. Putnam [author of Bowling Alone : The Collapse and Revival of American Community].
     

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus

    L.A. tied with Boston, Chicago, and eastern Tennessee.

    Eastern Tennessee? Pigeon Forge? Dollywood? Gatlinburg? What’s up with them hillbillies? Is it all the tourists?

    How does trust fare in tourist traps?

    The best places, in terms of trusting others and those of other races, were Bismarck, N.D., and rural South Dakota, the study said.

    As with the Smokies, we were in both places on recent vacations. The “other races” are American Indians. They’ve been here all along.

    Only north Minneapolis scored worse.

    North Minneapolis* is the black-dominant part of the city, the closest thing to a classic ghetto in the entire state. This is less about distrusting diversity than about distrusting other blacks. Truly diverse South Minneapolis is where the big riot took place.

    *A city section defined by street labeling, with no official status; even Hollywood is officially a district neighborhood. (And North Hollywood. West Hollywood is a full-fledged city.) East LA is a hamlet, i.e., a “census-designated place”, and, as such, only Honolulu is more populous in the US, on a technicality.

    Wanna know another official LA neighborhood, since 2010?

    • Replies: @stari_momak
    @Reg Cæsar

    "Eastern Tennessee? Pigeon Forge? Dollywood? Gatlinburg? What’s up with them hillbillies? Is it all the tourists?"

    I'm guessing geography, physical geography, plays a large part. The hills and mountains create small divisions of folks that don't trust one another. Think of Mr. Sailer's favorite region in the whole wide world, the Caucuses. Of course it could be that people disposed genetically and/or culturally to be distrustful move to and remain in mountainous areas in the first place. I wonder how Switzerland or South Tirol scores on trust.

  31. Anonymous[952] • Disclaimer says:

    It sounds quite possible that more Philadelphians are, in response, carrying illegal handguns.

    If the cops there are anything like my department, there are basically three ways a gun gets found on a “traffic stop”. First, a random cop happens to pull someone over and does a search, either because he gets suspicious, there’s a warrant, or he tows the car for something (no insurance or license). This is super rare now, for obvious reasons. Second, the traffic stop is actually specifically related to a call for service. Such as a fight with a gun call and cops stop a car leaving the area, do a search and find a fun. This is a little less rare, although most smart cops’ threshold for the accuracy of suspect descriptions has changed (“Is that blue or green? The description said ‘teal’. Nevermind.”) Third, a specific investigative unit (like a gang unit) has info that a potential shooter is carrying a gun and they stop him.

    Law enforcement in general has moved progressively from the first example towards the third. If you were a cop standing trial for shooting a guy who turned out to be unarmed, would you rather tell a jury that it was just some random guy without a front plate, or a well documented gang member with dozens of Instagram photos of him holding a gun? So I would expect that a higher proportion of stops in 2023 are of people that the cops know or very strongly suspect has a gun.

    Finally, I wonder how uniform the statistics are concerning what a “traffic stop” is. If a guy is wanted for murder and a SWAT team stops his car and arrests him with a gun, does every department call that a “traffic stop”? Or is it part of a an investigation? One of the obvious problems with law enforcement statistics is that they are mostly collected by thousands of people who specifically sought out one of the least pleasant jobs in America because they loathe office work. Show me the Venn diagram of people willing to get bitten at work and who get off on carefully categorizing things just for the joy of it.

  32. @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    “Yes, I think things are getting shoddier in this decade.”

    Indeed.

    “On the other hand, it’s not necessarily cut-throated ruthlessness”

    You aren’t NOTICING.

    https://www.salon.com/2023/02/06/george-santos-is-the-superstar-maga-deserves/

    “A lot of the “racial reckoning” mania on the part of white people was the urge to be even nicer to blacks than before“

    No. It’s Generation Z taking the lead to be kind and considerate. You could learn a thing or two from them in that regard. They’re the future, not us.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Hunsdon

    You’re linking to Salon? Here? That’s a bold strategy, Cotton.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Hunsdon

    Well, Huckleberry, it’s the content that matters, not the source.

  33. @Reg Cæsar
    @JohnnyWalker123


    L.A. tied with Boston, Chicago, and eastern Tennessee.
     
    Eastern Tennessee? Pigeon Forge? Dollywood? Gatlinburg? What's up with them hillbillies? Is it all the tourists?

    How does trust fare in tourist traps?


    The best places, in terms of trusting others and those of other races, were Bismarck, N.D., and rural South Dakota, the study said.

     

    As with the Smokies, we were in both places on recent vacations. The "other races" are American Indians. They've been here all along.

    Only north Minneapolis scored worse.
     
    North Minneapolis* is the black-dominant part of the city, the closest thing to a classic ghetto in the entire state. This is less about distrusting diversity than about distrusting other blacks. Truly diverse South Minneapolis is where the big riot took place.

    *A city section defined by street labeling, with no official status; even Hollywood is officially a district neighborhood. (And North Hollywood. West Hollywood is a full-fledged city.) East LA is a hamlet, i.e., a "census-designated place", and, as such, only Honolulu is more populous in the US, on a technicality.

    Wanna know another official LA neighborhood, since 2010?


    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Little_Bangladesh_sign_2.jpg/2880px-Little_Bangladesh_sign_2.jpg

    Replies: @stari_momak

    “Eastern Tennessee? Pigeon Forge? Dollywood? Gatlinburg? What’s up with them hillbillies? Is it all the tourists?”

    I’m guessing geography, physical geography, plays a large part. The hills and mountains create small divisions of folks that don’t trust one another. Think of Mr. Sailer’s favorite region in the whole wide world, the Caucuses. Of course it could be that people disposed genetically and/or culturally to be distrustful move to and remain in mountainous areas in the first place. I wonder how Switzerland or South Tirol scores on trust.

  34. @Hunsdon
    @Corvinus

    You're linking to Salon? Here? That's a bold strategy, Cotton.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    Well, Huckleberry, it’s the content that matters, not the source.

  35. @Colin Wright
    @Corvinus


    '...No. It’s Generation Z taking the lead to be kind and considerate. You could learn a thing or two from them in that regard. They’re the future, not us.'
     
    I do believe you've surpassed yourself there, Corvinus. That remark is both idiotic and completely unsupported by the evidence. Antifa? Black Lives Matter rioters?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    Impugning an entire generation is your style. Never cease to amaze me.

  36. @JohnnyWalker123
    @AnotherDad

    I agree.

    Professor Robert Putnam discussed these issues in his book "Bowling Alone." Steve Sailer reviewed it.

    https://vdare.com/articles/diversity-causes-bowling-alone


    Want a neighbor you can count on? Move to Montana. That's one conclusion you might draw from a Harvard University study released today, which finds that Los Angeles residents trust each other less than most other Americans. The study is billed as the largest-ever survey on "civic engagement" - activities such as joining social or community groups, voting and simply making friends. … And it links L.A.'s low standing to the area's ethnic diversity. Those who live in more homogeneous places, such as New Hampshire, Montana or Lewiston, Maine, do more with friends and are more involved in community affairs or politics than residents of more cosmopolitan areas, the study said. Los Angeles residents are among the least trusting of people such as neighbors, co-workers, shop clerks and police, the study said. L.A. tied with Boston, Chicago, and eastern Tennessee. Only north Minneapolis scored worse. Angelenos also trust people of other races less than residents of just about everywhere else. San Diego tied Los Angeles' dismal "inter-racial trust" score. The only cities that did worse were Phoenix and Charlotte, N.C. The best places, in terms of trusting others and those of other races, were Bismarck, N.D., and rural South Dakota, the study said. … The survey of 30,000 Americans in 40 communities was led by Harvard political scientist Robert D. Putnam [author of Bowling Alone : The Collapse and Revival of American Community].
     

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus

    Putnam said that “in the short term, he writes, there are clearly challenges, but over the long haul, he argues that diversity has a range of benefits for a society, and that the fragmentation and distrust can be overcome. It’s not an easy process, but in the end it’s “well worth the effort.’” He cites the integration of institutions like the U.S. Army as proof that diversity can work. Putnam’s brief contends that the 2007 paper has been “twisted” to make a case against race-conscious admissions, asserting that, on the contrary, his “extensive research and experience confirm the substantial benefits of diversity, including racial and ethnic diversity, to our society.”

    Source –> http://www.chronicle.com/blogs/percolator/robert-putnam-says-his-research-was-twisted/30357

    Putnam, in an interview on NPR in 2007, said “I do need to step back a minute and say I think that the – it’s not merely a fact that America’s becoming more diverse. It’s a benefit. America will – all of us will, over the long run, benefit from being a more diverse, more heterogeneous place. Places that are more diverse have higher rates of growth on average and they have better cuisine. And it’s just a more interesting place to live.”

    “So in the long run, waves of immigration like we’re going through now and that we’ve gone through in the past and increasing diversity is good for a society. But what we discovered in this research, somewhat to our surprise, was that in the short run the more ethnically diverse the neighborhood you live in, the more you – every – all of us tend to hunker down, to pull in. The more diverse – and when I say all of us, I mean all of us. I mean blacks and whites and Asians and Latinos, all of us. The more diverse the group around us, ethnically, in our neighborhood, the less we trust anybody, including people who look like us. Whites trust whites less. Blacks trust blacks less, in more diverse settings.”

    …

    “Look, I want to make sure that your listeners understand that I think over the long run, as we get to know one another, and as we begin to see things that we have in common with people who don’t look like us, this allergy to diversity tends to diminish and to go away. So this is not something that I think as an argument against immigration. On the contrary, actually, I think in the long run we’ll all be better. But I don’t think that progressives and integrationists like me do our cause any service by hiding from ourselves the fact that it’s not easy.”

  37. @anonymous
    Agreed and well said Steve S.

    NYT , WaPost all J Lib Democrats, the ACLU switch hats and sound like the most NRA gun nut whenever street Blacks are found with illegal guns.

    Also, idiot, Libertarian true believer Lunatics like Ron and Rand Paul are just as bad.

    Look what KY Senator Rand Paul's response to organized BLM rioting and looting. Rand Paul said he was on BLM sides and sponsored the Federal "Justice For Breonna Taylor Act" (Breonna Taylor was the female top diva in Louisville's most notorious hard drug (cocaine, Crack cocaine and opioids) gang, crew - the was a killed a shootout when police tried to serve a warrant on her gang leader boyfriend the gang leader open fire on the cops, the cops returned with guns and there was a shoot out and she was killed - sounds like justice was delivered for Breonna Taylor!

    Rand Paul also worked to get all Black African American men released from Prison who were put there for har drug possession. "It's a victimless crime, people should have control of their own bodies". No Rand Paul.

    There reason there were so many Black African American young men put in prison for hard drug possession is that these are known violent gang bangers and no one will testify against them for things like robbery, violent assault, rape or even murder so those cops and prosecutors who still care about murder and mayhem put the worst violent gang bangers in prison for drug possession, they don't need neighbors to testifying they just have physical proof of opioids, meth, crack cocaine.

    When and Antifa BLM Mob tried to beat Rand Paul and his pretty blonde wife to near death in a DC Antifa BLM Riot, Rand Paul tried to appeal to BLM leaders that this was a misunderstanding, that he was on their side. (True, a reason Rand Paul was made Amren Traitor of the year)

    Sigh.

    Thanks Steve.

    J Ryan
    The Political Cesspool

    Replies: @Anonymous

    When and Antifa BLM Mob tried to beat Rand Paul and his pretty blonde wife

    *fake blonde

    (And quite rather hideous, imo)

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Anonymous


    (And quite rather hideous, imo)
     
    Rand Paul's wife is hideous? You're out of your freaking mind.

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/08/18/27609F9300000578-0-image-m-123_1428513258019.jpg

    "Cheerleader Wife Kelley"
     
  38. @Anonymous
    @anonymous


    When and Antifa BLM Mob tried to beat Rand Paul and his pretty blonde wife
     
    *fake blonde

    (And quite rather hideous, imo)

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    (And quite rather hideous, imo)

    Rand Paul’s wife is hideous? You’re out of your freaking mind.

    “Cheerleader Wife Kelley”

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