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Slate Star Codex went dark last year when the New York Times threatened to publish the real name of its author. Now, Second City Cop has more or less pulled the plug over fear that Google would dox the author(s?). From WGN in Chicago:

Here’s why Chicago’s unofficial police blog ‘Second City Cop’ went dark
WGN INVESTIGATES
by: Ben Bradley

Posted: Jan 13, 2021 / 02:15 PM CST /

CHICAGO — Most Chicago cops don’t talk to reporters. They don’t trust politicians. And they certainly have a lot of opinions.

It’s why for the past 15 years the “Second City Cop” police blog has been must-read for many Chicagoans who want to have a better understanding about crime and justice in their city.

It’s also why the blog has bene a thorn in the side of police brass for years and there have been various attempts to identify the operator.

When the chronicle of cop life disappeared from public view on the internet a few days ago some took to social media concerned that “big tech” had pulled the plug.

“We have taken no action,” a spokesperson for Google, which owns the Blogspot platform used by Second City Cop told WGN. “We see that the blog is still live though the readership access is ‘private.’”

What’s the real story? It’s been difficult to track down since the operator(s) of the blog have taken great lengths to protect their anonymity.

However, in an email to WGN the person behind the blog makes it sound like he/she was concerned they were about to be outed.

“Over the weekend, we received information from a contact at Google that internal chat/e-mails led them to believe that certain precautions we had taken over the years had been breached by Google,” they said.

Slate Star Codex and Second City Cop should team up into a superblog, Slate City Cop, that features 12,000-word speculations about the logic of the Fermi Paradox and jokes about Mayor Groot and former Mayor Tiny Dancer.

And whatever happened to Second City Bureaucrat on Twitter?

A statement from Second City Cop on the Chicago crime stats website HeyJackass.com:

Statement From Second City Cop
SCC explains the decision to shut down their website:

Well, this was certainly a long time coming. Fifteen years, over 22,000 posts, almost two million comments and God knows how many attempts to silence us. But it might finally be over…at least this version of it.

Over the weekend, we received information from a contact at Google that internal chat/e-mails led them to believe that certain precautions we had taken over the years had been breached by Google. We had gotten similar warnings from others in the past, and we dealt with or ignored them as the situation warranted. But this one was different.

And this one – on the heels of Big Tech’s wholesale attack on the President, Parler and center-right to right-leaning authors, politicians and voices – pointed to a countdown that had far less time than we had thought. Most likely, far less time than you think, too. The blacklisting has begun, even if you won’t see it. You should – the wholesale abandonment of the President, the denunciations, the, “I wasn’t really with him” self-serving statements. Sound familiar? It should…if you have any recollections of the show trials behind the Iron Curtain, in Southeast Asia, in assorted Middle East kleptocracies.

Disavowal and re-education is on tap. What Senator McCarthy is remembered for – “Are you now or have you ever been…” has been twisted, refined (Bake that cake!), and exacerbated (Parler is only the first of many). They don’t want “unity.” They want Compliance and as the last fifteen years have shown, we aren’t really good at compliance. The amount of personal data available to “woke companies” who would deny commerce or service based on beliefs, contributions, investments (not Green enough!), social media posting, employment (cops not welcome here), bumper stickers – Have you heard of Operation Choke Point? Look it up and imagine it drilled down to individual citizens. Orwell’s 1984? It’s here. ..

We have a few hundred e-mails waiting for us, begging for info, and all we can say right now is, “We don’t know.” We don’t know if this is it, we don’t know if we’ll return. We don’t know what Big Tech has in store for us and the political winds are not fortuitous. We are exploring options and we’ll leave it at that. …

 
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  1. It’s why for the past 15 years the “Second City Cop” police blog has been must-read for many Chicagoans who want to have a better understanding about crime and justice in their city.

    You can tell without looking that this is (relatively sympathetic) local media. The national MSM would never let a remark like that get published.

    It’s also why the blog has bene a thorn in the side of police brass for years and there have been various attempts to identify the operator.

    Have him contact me. I’ll publish anything he likes.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Polistra

    Bradley’s testicles have only descended during the last fortnight.

  2. I miss SCC. They certainly weren’t a fan of rahm or lightfoot but they expressed an opinion that seemed to be grounded in facts and that is the American way, at least until the last election.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Buffalo Joe

    Will it truly be the last do you think?

  3. Need Second City Bureaucrat back too.

  4. So, what’s your real name, Steve?

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @James Speaks

    Barry Obama.

    Steve Sailer never existed. He’s just a figment of Barack Obama’s subconscious. When Obama started to gradually suppress his white impulses at age eight they slowly aggregated into the eventual persona of Steve Sailer. When Obama lost to Bobby Rush in 2000, Barack finally snapped and Steve Sailer was finally born. That’s how “Sailer’s” book on Obama was so dead on about the Obama Presidency.

    https://www.amazon.com/Americas-Half-Blood-Prince-Barack-Inheritance/dp/0578000377

    https://youtu.be/WKVxKrrbz1E

    You can win against Sailer Mr. President. We can get you the help you need! Just hold on!

  5. The first law of modern blogging: assume your name and RL identity live openly in your header script. And work downward from there.

    You decide your own tolerance of discomfort from that point. And you own it.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    @Bartleby

    The Saker, who is a frequent contributor here, has his own blog. It's called "The Saker." The Saker's ID and location is no secret, but every so often some fool threatens to dox him.

  6. Political conservatives have been marginalizing small government, libertarians for years.

    So WTH are the conservatives whining about?

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @216
    @Abolish_public_education

    Lol, lolbertarians run the DC Conservative Inc organizations.

    The base has been screaming for protectionism since Buchanan and Perot, but they kept foisting free trade on us.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory, @Stan d Mute, @Magic Dirt Resident

  7. Anonymous[165] • Disclaimer says:

    We know Big Tech isn’t ultimately behind this. They didn’t and couldn’t coordinate this well-timed de-platforming. It’s a total Deep State operation. The leaked Jack Dorsey video indicates that he was being directed to act.

    It was almost 8 years ago when whistleblower Edward Snowden spilled the beans on Deep State’s thorough co-opting of Big Tech and using it to spy on Americans. Since then it has now doubt gotten orders of magnitude more intimately intertwined and controlled by Deep State which has funneled CLASSIFIED amounts of government money into it.

    • Agree: Paul Jolliffe, TWS
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Anonymous

    The video of Jack Dorsey taken by a "Twitter whistleblower" was interesting because I don't see how Jack could possibly not know who took it, unless it was a capture of a video feed Jack was sending out to many people. But it appears he was standing talking to someone casually. How could he not remember? This suggests the following two conspiracy theories:

    1- The video is some kind of manipulation by Twitter. For example, they don't actually want to cancel people's accounts for financial reasons, so they are trying to scare people into deleting content voluntarily to avoid having their accounts cancelled.

    2- Per anonymous's comment, Twitter's censorship is being coordinated by the state, and Jack is collaborating in the whistleblowing.

    , @ziggurat
    @Anonymous

    The cartoon you showed was done by Ben Garrison, who was just banned from Twitter.


    ... on January 8, 2021, following his support for the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol, he was permanently banned from Twitter and temporarily suspended from Facebook.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Garrison

    Replies: @ziggurat

    , @anon
    @Anonymous

    That political cartoon has it wrong about Parler. There is a seemingly decent probability that Parler was a honey trap all along.

    wired link

    cybernews link


    1) they asked for pictures of photo id's--nobody does that, that is WEIRD!
    2) site was designed such that trivially easy to scrape literally every post ever made to the site, including private and deleted posts.
    3) photos and videos were not stripped of metadata-- thus giving precise lat/longitude coordinates.


    It's hard to put into words how insanely wrong and stupid these mistakes were. So stupid that it almost seems as if it were on purpose...

    Here you can see precise locations of where Parler videos were filmed

    Replies: @SimpleSong

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Anonymous

    It's hard to talk about the CIA/NSA/FBI being behind anything without sounding like a "conspiracy theorist." OTOH, we know that there is a mutual aid relationship between MSM, Social Media, and the Deep State, and that all three are on a mission to destroy Trump and Trumpism.

    So why wouldn't one assume they are working together on this project.

    BTW, when was the last time you heard the MSM say anything remotely skeptical, much less negative, about any of the three-letter agencies? They've been besties since 2008, at least.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Paul Jolliffe

    , @Stan d Mute
    @Anonymous

    Wasn’t Garrison canceled?

  8. OT
    23 die in Norway after receiving Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine nypost.com › 2021/01/15 › 23-die-in-norway-after-rec…
    7 hours ago — Twenty-three people died in Norway within days of receiving their first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, with 13 of those deaths — all …

    • Replies: @AKAHorace
    @Clyde

    23 die in Norway after receiving Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine nypost.com › 2021/01/15 › 23-die-in-norway-after-rec…
    7 hours ago — Twenty-three people died in Norway within days of receiving their first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, with 13 of those deaths — all …


    Yes, but..

    All 13 were nursing home patients and at least 80 years old. While officials aren’t expressing serious concern, they are adjusting their guidance on who should receive the vaccine.

    “We are not alarmed by this,” Steinar Madsen, medical director with the agency, told Norwegian broadcaster NRK. “It is quite clear that these vaccines have very little risk, with a small exception for the frailest patients.”

    Health officials noted that around 400 people die each week in the nursing home population.

    You would need some statistical analysis to know if this is a serious problem or not.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar, @El Dato

    , @AKAHorace
    @Clyde

    Also in the same issue of the New York Post:https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/wife-of-queens-proud-boy-arrested-in-capitol-plot-wants-a-divorce/

    Every crisis is an opportunity if you have the right mindset. From her GoFundme page:

    Wife ready to take a stand for America

    ($190 raised of $2,000,000 goal)


    I am petrified for my children and my life to speak out. But I am ready to take a stand with your support. The attack on the Capitol was a tragedy and is now the Trump legacy. I can't take this on while having to support 2 children. I will dedicate my life to this. I will be the first Trump voter to take that stand and admit we got this very wrong.

    I am divorcing him immediately!
    I am not a radical idiot like him and didn't really pay attention to Trump until election season. He really played us! And I am willing to admit I got this wrong!

    1. I will use the money to start a movement and sue Donald Trump for radicalizing some of his supporters. For ALL Americans left and right because families have been affected on both sides.

    2. To create a movement to sue parler for creating a platform to organize the worst crimes made by the worst domestic terrorists in America's history the "proud boys"

    2. I will use the money to give my children a better life while making this my life's mission, so that I don't fall to the poverty of a Radical Trump supporter like Eduard who made sure to always have financial control over me like Donald Trump. And to keep my babies safe during a very sensitive time.

    3. I will use some to divorce Eduard while working with the FBI as a witness in this case.

    Eduard made sure to use his privilege again in court when he suggested he should be let out on bail since he is the sole provider. I lost my job during this pandemic (huge bummer) and my babies are home from school. They are the best, sweetest, brightest, and innocent in this. You will be saving their life and countless others.

    We all have to heal together from the spoken and unspoken pain of the last four years.

    I am asking for every American to pitch in and help me to give my Olvia and Eduard the life they deserve away from this radical bully and to save all the children of America in what will become the Trump legacy. He must be held accountable for the radicalization of our nation and awakening the spirit of the past evils!

    I would also like to use the funds to start a movement for victims of domestic violence at the hands of radical Trump supporters so that they can finally take a stand and make it right with me.

    I am certain there are so many women just like me in America, who are so afraid to speak up because they lack financial support.

    I want to thank every American who gets behind this movement. This is without a doubt one of the most unspoken truths happening accross America and an opportunity for us all to help with a way forward. These men need to be held accountable.

    I am ready to take the hand of unity and never let go again. The biggest threat that stood in my way is out of my house and finally out of the white house. Thank you America for getting this right when some of us just couldn't.

    To the FBI thank you for showing me that my voice matters. I don't remember the last time I felt that.

    Anyone who wants to help put this movement together and get involved message me

    Any news agency that would like further comments can message me with name and news outlet.

    This story and page should trend as #forolivia

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @BenKenobi, @Achmed E. Newman, @ES

  9. has bene a thorn…

    Who’s proofreading at WGN? Some has-bene? Bene there, done that?

    Mr Bene? The Venerable Bene? Someone in the Bene Ladin clan? Does it amount to a hill of benes?

    …former Mayor Tiny Dancer.

    Hold your friends close, and your tiny dancers closer!

  10. It’s probably a good idea to delete/disable any social media presence for which you are easily identifiable (i.e. a Facebook or Twitter account with your real name). If you’re an employee of a public or private entity without FU money, it’s probably a good idea to delete/disable any social media presence that attracts a large audience, whether you think it’s anonymous or not (it’s probably not).

    I should probably not be posting here on unz.com… but for now I’ll take the chance.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Technite78

    Back to the future with the Mafia?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzino

    easy to establish where leaks spring from.

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Technite78

    There should be massive movements to leave these tech companies. Close your FB and Twitter accounts. Stop using Gmail. Get new non-Apple and non-Google phones. Start educating yourself about how the internet works at a nuts and bolts level so you can understand privacy better. Etc.

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @Technite78, @SimpleSong, @Dnought

  11. SCC is a big gap just now.

    I hope that the present radio silence is a good omen.

    • Replies: @Marty
    @Cortes

    Speaking of radio silence, this morning at 10:40 a.m. Pacific the Limbaugh broadcast went silent for 14 minutes on KSFO. A caller with a blue-collar NY accent was explaining his activities at the Supreme Court bldg. on 1/6 when ..... Could just be cash-starved Cumulus bumbling, I guess.

    Replies: @Known Fact

  12. Add Chateau Heartsite for the triumvirate

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  13. Google is asking for your email, as if they will then connect you. Not going to try it…

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Bill in Glendale

    Bill, for years now, I've had a problem with inputting email info, much less my phone number (for a text back), into any websites, even those that I was trying to get something useful done on. It was not just about dealing with that much more SPAM mail or robocalls to the phone number.

    Since I had some problems with traffic courts, insurance companies, etc. many years ago, I learned to not give out any info. that someone didn't really need for my purposes. Even back then, things got connected in ways I didn't want. I've always had nagging feelings telling me to not give out info. The events going one this past week have just confirmed that I've been on the right track.

    What I like about Mr. Unz's method is that the email one uses does not have to be a real one. Maybe there are some features I don't know about, like getting notified of replies or something, but he just uses it to establish a unique code to link the one's handle. I don't think it's an innocent deal like this with the google input screen that I too saw when I tried to get on SSC due to Steve's post here.

    Replies: @Bill in Glendale, @anon

  14. The only big problem I ever had with SCC (as a native of Chicago I feel qualified to opine on this) was their staunch sense of entitlement in regard to their lavish pensions. Those guys were as bad as any CPS teachers’ union steward with the rhetoric, often citing pensions as their “state constitutional right.” They were perfectly happy to go down with the ship as long as they were provided with first class accommodations.

    That in itself was merely a symptom of the larger disease; that being police really are only protecting and serving their pensions. Urban police are modern day Sheriff’s of Nottingham.

    And finally, over all the years I read them, never one damn look in the mirror on how their public sector union was a big big part of the problem.

    But aside from that, they were an invaluable look inside the Chicago Machine.

    • Agree: Pop Warner
    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Mike Tre

    Agree, but a focus on lavish pay and benefits is characteristic of every government employee I've ever known, or known of.

    , @Cortes
    @Mike Tre

    They should put their lives on the line to preserve public safety for three Ritz crackers plus a couple of bowls of gruel on retirement and be grateful?

    Interesting. Good luck with that approach.

    When they start applying the bite “la mordida” you’ll be fine.

    Replies: @SOL, @Mike Tre

    , @Bartleby the Scrivner
    @Mike Tre

    The reason they are so enamored with their pensions could be because they put 9% of their pay into it each paycheck. Kinda like wanting to get what they pay for. The teachers union doesn’t pay anything into theirs I think. Fact check me.
    People who contribute to SS want their benefits when due. Police want their own investment back as well.

    Replies: @Cortes, @Mike Tre, @Cletus, @Abolish_public_education

    , @Anon
    @Mike Tre

    An overpaid public sector is the bane of city budgets, but deep down, I think anyone who works a job dealing everyday with godawful ghetto blacks deserves good pay, whether a cop or a teacher. It's a tough job, and very demoralizing trying to pound learning and lawful obedience into stupid, sociopathic blacks.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    , @europeasant
    @Mike Tre

    I have been reading SCC for many years. In general they are a good read and source of information but yea they never discuss their burgeoning pensions. Also they will not touch any race realism topic. That's too hot for SCC to handle.

    , @Curle
    @Mike Tre

    Well run public agencies use comparables just like the private sector to determine total compensation. Many use the same firms the private sector uses. Pensions are just a component of the overall package and are designed for retention purposes.

    People at the bottom quarter of their profession’s compensation scale will view public employees as overpaid, people at the higher end would never make the switch.

    In periods where average age is extending, pension programs will become underfunded. Where it is declining, they become flush.

  15. Hoping to see SCB again by Feb 2.

    If we don’t that means six more years of Derp State Winter.

  16. @Buffalo Joe
    I miss SCC. They certainly weren't a fan of rahm or lightfoot but they expressed an opinion that seemed to be grounded in facts and that is the American way, at least until the last election.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Will it truly be the last do you think?

  17. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:

    Unfortunately, if someone at Google was preparing to doxx SCC, they still will, even if the blog itself is no longer there. It’s all about cleansing the planet of horrible people for SJWs, and they never stop acting on this desire. NYT had too high profile and was under enough pressure to not doxx SSC.

    • Replies: @216
    @Anonymous

    If the blog is offline, perhaps they have a stronger legal claim of "invasion of privacy"

    Replies: @Anonymous

  18. @Mike Tre
    The only big problem I ever had with SCC (as a native of Chicago I feel qualified to opine on this) was their staunch sense of entitlement in regard to their lavish pensions. Those guys were as bad as any CPS teachers' union steward with the rhetoric, often citing pensions as their "state constitutional right." They were perfectly happy to go down with the ship as long as they were provided with first class accommodations.

    That in itself was merely a symptom of the larger disease; that being police really are only protecting and serving their pensions. Urban police are modern day Sheriff's of Nottingham.

    And finally, over all the years I read them, never one damn look in the mirror on how their public sector union was a big big part of the problem.


    But aside from that, they were an invaluable look inside the Chicago Machine.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Cortes, @Bartleby the Scrivner, @Anon, @europeasant, @Curle

    Agree, but a focus on lavish pay and benefits is characteristic of every government employee I’ve ever known, or known of.

  19. @Mike Tre
    The only big problem I ever had with SCC (as a native of Chicago I feel qualified to opine on this) was their staunch sense of entitlement in regard to their lavish pensions. Those guys were as bad as any CPS teachers' union steward with the rhetoric, often citing pensions as their "state constitutional right." They were perfectly happy to go down with the ship as long as they were provided with first class accommodations.

    That in itself was merely a symptom of the larger disease; that being police really are only protecting and serving their pensions. Urban police are modern day Sheriff's of Nottingham.

    And finally, over all the years I read them, never one damn look in the mirror on how their public sector union was a big big part of the problem.


    But aside from that, they were an invaluable look inside the Chicago Machine.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Cortes, @Bartleby the Scrivner, @Anon, @europeasant, @Curle

    They should put their lives on the line to preserve public safety for three Ritz crackers plus a couple of bowls of gruel on retirement and be grateful?

    Interesting. Good luck with that approach.

    When they start applying the bite “la mordida” you’ll be fine.

    • Agree: TWS
    • Replies: @SOL
    @Cortes

    When there is no fraternity with the "citizens" or love of honor, there can be only money as motivation.

    Replies: @Cortes

    , @Mike Tre
    @Cortes

    Straw man. Take your absolutist rhetoric elsewhere.

  20. @Bill in Glendale
    Google is asking for your email, as if they will then connect you. Not going to try it...

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Bill, for years now, I’ve had a problem with inputting email info, much less my phone number (for a text back), into any websites, even those that I was trying to get something useful done on. It was not just about dealing with that much more SPAM mail or robocalls to the phone number.

    Since I had some problems with traffic courts, insurance companies, etc. many years ago, I learned to not give out any info. that someone didn’t really need for my purposes. Even back then, things got connected in ways I didn’t want. I’ve always had nagging feelings telling me to not give out info. The events going one this past week have just confirmed that I’ve been on the right track.

    What I like about Mr. Unz’s method is that the email one uses does not have to be a real one. Maybe there are some features I don’t know about, like getting notified of replies or something, but he just uses it to establish a unique code to link the one’s handle. I don’t think it’s an innocent deal like this with the google input screen that I too saw when I tried to get on SSC due to Steve’s post here.

    • Replies: @Bill in Glendale
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Amen

    , @anon
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I’ve had a problem with inputting email info, much less my phone number

    Burner phones are inexpensive. New SIM cards even more so.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  21. @Cortes
    SCC is a big gap just now.

    I hope that the present radio silence is a good omen.

    Replies: @Marty

    Speaking of radio silence, this morning at 10:40 a.m. Pacific the Limbaugh broadcast went silent for 14 minutes on KSFO. A caller with a blue-collar NY accent was explaining his activities at the Supreme Court bldg. on 1/6 when ….. Could just be cash-starved Cumulus bumbling, I guess.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Marty

    No one tells Limbaugh what to do with his own network but the various other talk hosts have reportedly gotten the word from corporate: drop any mention of "stolen elections," distance yourself from the "angry mob." Once Limbaugh is unable to continue, the conservative talk radio format overall will be under pressure to stick to an even blander RINO agenda.

    I think I heard the caller you mentioned; his rambling point was that everything he saw (at the back end of the building) was peaceful but it did seem to him that there were a few young provocateurs at various spots.

  22. @James Speaks
    So, what's your real name, Steve?

    Replies: @Kronos

    Barry Obama.

    Steve Sailer never existed. He’s just a figment of Barack Obama’s subconscious. When Obama started to gradually suppress his white impulses at age eight they slowly aggregated into the eventual persona of Steve Sailer. When Obama lost to Bobby Rush in 2000, Barack finally snapped and Steve Sailer was finally born. That’s how “Sailer’s” book on Obama was so dead on about the Obama Presidency.

    You can win against Sailer Mr. President. We can get you the help you need! Just hold on!

  23. @Bartleby
    The first law of modern blogging: assume your name and RL identity live openly in your header script. And work downward from there.

    You decide your own tolerance of discomfort from that point. And you own it.

    Replies: @James Speaks

    The Saker, who is a frequent contributor here, has his own blog. It’s called “The Saker.” The Saker’s ID and location is no secret, but every so often some fool threatens to dox him.

  24. @Technite78
    It's probably a good idea to delete/disable any social media presence for which you are easily identifiable (i.e. a Facebook or Twitter account with your real name). If you're an employee of a public or private entity without FU money, it's probably a good idea to delete/disable any social media presence that attracts a large audience, whether you think it's anonymous or not (it's probably not).

    I should probably not be posting here on unz.com... but for now I'll take the chance.

    Replies: @Cortes, @Chrisnonymous

    Back to the future with the Mafia?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzino

    easy to establish where leaks spring from.

  25. @Polistra


    It’s why for the past 15 years the “Second City Cop” police blog has been must-read for many Chicagoans who want to have a better understanding about crime and justice in their city.
     
    You can tell without looking that this is (relatively sympathetic) local media. The national MSM would never let a remark like that get published.

    It’s also why the blog has bene a thorn in the side of police brass for years and there have been various attempts to identify the operator.
     
    Have him contact me. I'll publish anything he likes.

    Replies: @Cortes

    Bradley’s testicles have only descended during the last fortnight.

  26. @Abolish_public_education
    Political conservatives have been marginalizing small government, libertarians for years.

    So WTH are the conservatives whining about?

    Replies: @216

    Lol, lolbertarians run the DC Conservative Inc organizations.

    The base has been screaming for protectionism since Buchanan and Perot, but they kept foisting free trade on us.

    • Agree: TWS, The Anti-Gnostic
    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    @216

    That was the Chamber of Commerce. The libertarians have never had any power.

    , @Stan d Mute
    @216


    The base has been screaming for protectionism since Buchanan and Perot, but they kept foisting free trade on us.
     
    Right, you morons beg for more government then act surprised when you get Anarcho-Tyranny.

    At some point, we do hope that you’ll figure it out.
    , @Magic Dirt Resident
    @216

    The base doesn't know what it wants. They were free trade Friedmanites under Reagan, protectionist with Buchanan and Perot, then became blood thirsty deep state worshipping war hawks under Bush before deciding that peace is actually good and Assange is a hero under Trump. They've been strung along like rubes for decades. The ignorance of the average Republican voter is why the right wing has been an unmitigated failure in American politics. And the worst part is most of them STILL haven't figured out that they are being conned and grifted. Maybe that will change in the aftermath of Trump but as of now there's no reason to expect the base to articulate and fight for its own interests.

    Replies: @216, @fish

  27. @Anonymous
    Unfortunately, if someone at Google was preparing to doxx SCC, they still will, even if the blog itself is no longer there. It's all about cleansing the planet of horrible people for SJWs, and they never stop acting on this desire. NYT had too high profile and was under enough pressure to not doxx SSC.

    Replies: @216

    If the blog is offline, perhaps they have a stronger legal claim of “invasion of privacy”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @216

    Maybe, maybe not. But Google does not case. It can afford to litigate and, worst case scenario, settle without admitting a guilt while screwing people to make examples for others. That's what it's all about.

  28. @Technite78
    It's probably a good idea to delete/disable any social media presence for which you are easily identifiable (i.e. a Facebook or Twitter account with your real name). If you're an employee of a public or private entity without FU money, it's probably a good idea to delete/disable any social media presence that attracts a large audience, whether you think it's anonymous or not (it's probably not).

    I should probably not be posting here on unz.com... but for now I'll take the chance.

    Replies: @Cortes, @Chrisnonymous

    There should be massive movements to leave these tech companies. Close your FB and Twitter accounts. Stop using Gmail. Get new non-Apple and non-Google phones. Start educating yourself about how the internet works at a nuts and bolts level so you can understand privacy better. Etc.

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    @Chrisnonymous

    We currently have a gun culture in America that not only cares about political rights, but also has a lot of people who are very interested in the technical aspects of firearms. I hope that we can develop a similar culture (likely with similar sorts of people) around communications and internet issues--political action combined with self-reliance and an interest in the technical details.

    People have been willing to fight for 2A for a long time, they just took it for granted that 1A was safe, but surprisingly it appears that 1A will go down before 2A.

    Replies: @wren

    , @Technite78
    @Chrisnonymous

    Agree completely.

    , @SimpleSong
    @Chrisnonymous

    Along these lines, here are my opinions on best tech to use/stuff to know for Unz readers:

    1.) Browser: best choice is Brave. Made by an Unz commenter (seriously.)

    2.) Learn to use tor, a network tool that allows you to shield your identity when browsing. It's built in to Brave, so, not so hard. Also tor allows you to read the NYT for free.

    3.) Web search: Duck Duck Go is the best in my opinion, but anything that isn't Google is OK--fragmenting the market keeps the search engines honest.

    4.) Facebook and gmail--Consider just buying a domain name and getting a basic web host. Assuming this is just your personal page with not much traffic this should be <$10 per month. If you do this you can also run your own email server, so this doubly frees you up. Offer to host your friends as well.

    5.) If you don't want to do 4.) think about Protonmail as an alternative to gmail.

    6.) Don't ever use an app to access something on your phone that you could just access through the phone's web browser.

    7.) Try putting a few bucks into cryptocurrencies and making a few small transactions. I'm not saying put your life savings into it; I'm just saying learn how it works. Personally I think monero is better design than bitcoin but opinions vary.

    8.) If you heat your house with electric space heaters, get rid of those and instead heat the room by getting an old computer and putting it to work mining crypto. You still get the heat, but now you get some cryptocurrency too. Insofar as the value of crypto is its anonymity, it's best to mine the coins yourself instead of using an exchange.

    9.) Run linux instead of Microsoft Windows or Apple iOS. Linux mint is my favorite but Ubuntu is pretty solid as well.

    10.) Use LibreOffice instead of Microsoft office. In general always use open-source software unless it is just totally inadequate.

    11.) You can also get linux smartphones such as the PinePhone if you are really hardcore, and this avoids dealing with Apple and Google. Haven't used one so I can't really say much more.

    Replies: @Polynikes, @Chrisnonymous, @Almost Missouri

    , @Dnought
    @Chrisnonymous

    Been doing all those things forever. Never signed up for Facebook or Twitter. Don't have a Google account, let alone Gmail. Still use a flip phone. I bought something from Amazon once (never again). It is incredibly easy to live this way....easier than most people can even imagine. No, I'm not a Luddite, or "totally off the grid" by any means, but I saw where this was going more than twenty years ago. Snowden was only further confirmation of what I already long knew. If every realist (millions and millions) would do these things, the world would change-hard and fast.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

  29. @Anonymous
    We know Big Tech isn’t ultimately behind this. They didn’t and couldn’t coordinate this well-timed de-platforming. It’s a total Deep State operation. The leaked Jack Dorsey video indicates that he was being directed to act.

    It was almost 8 years ago when whistleblower Edward Snowden spilled the beans on Deep State’s thorough co-opting of Big Tech and using it to spy on Americans. Since then it has now doubt gotten orders of magnitude more intimately intertwined and controlled by Deep State which has funneled CLASSIFIED amounts of government money into it.


    https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/silicon_valley_censorship.jpg

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @ziggurat, @anon, @Hypnotoad666, @Stan d Mute

    The video of Jack Dorsey taken by a “Twitter whistleblower” was interesting because I don’t see how Jack could possibly not know who took it, unless it was a capture of a video feed Jack was sending out to many people. But it appears he was standing talking to someone casually. How could he not remember? This suggests the following two conspiracy theories:

    1- The video is some kind of manipulation by Twitter. For example, they don’t actually want to cancel people’s accounts for financial reasons, so they are trying to scare people into deleting content voluntarily to avoid having their accounts cancelled.

    2- Per anonymous’s comment, Twitter’s censorship is being coordinated by the state, and Jack is collaborating in the whistleblowing.

    • Agree: Cortes
  30. I went to HeyJackass to see if they were still up and they had a comment from SSC:

    https://heyjackass.com/

    Statement From Second City Cop
    SCC explains the decision to shut down their website:

    Well, this was certainly a long time coming. Fifteen years, over 22,000 posts, almost two million comments and God knows how many attempts to silence us. But it might finally be over…at least this version of it.

    Over the weekend, we received information from a contact at Google that internal chat/e-mails led them to believe that certain precautions we had taken over the years had been breached by Google. We had gotten similar warnings from others in the past, and we dealt with or ignored them as the situation warranted. But this one was different.

    And this one – on the heels of Big Tech’s wholesale attack on the President, Parler and center-right to right-leaning authors, politicians and voices – pointed to a countdown that had far less time than we had thought. Most likely, far less time than you think, too. The blacklisting has begun, even if you won’t see it. You should – the wholesale abandonment of the President, the denunciations, the, “I wasn’t really with him” self-serving statements. Sound familiar? It should…if you have any recollections of the show trials behind the Iron Curtain, in Southeast Asia, in assorted Middle East kleptocracies.

    Disavowal and re-education is on tap. What Senator McCarthy is remembered for – “Are you now or have you ever been…” has been twisted, refined (Bake that cake!), and exacerbated (Parler is only the first of many). They don’t want “unity.” They want Compliance and as the last fifteen years have shown, we aren’t really good at compliance. The amount of personal data available to “woke companies” who would deny commerce or service based on beliefs, contributions, investments (not Green enough!), social media posting, employment (cops not welcome here), bumper stickers – Have you heard of Operation Choke Point? Look it up and imagine it drilled down to individual citizens. Orwell’s 1984? It’s here.

    In closing, we’d just like to thank a few people:

    Phil Cline – without you banning us from Department computers, we wouldn’t have jumped from 3,000 visits a day to over 30,000 unique daily visits. You, more than anyone, assisted in our success. Some days it topped 50,000, but we thank you for the ten-fold increase. Too bad you can’t ban the next generation SCC;
    HeyJackass.com – the only true source of crime numbers. We know you’ll ferret out a few more hidden bodies to put 2020 over 800. We guarantee that they’re out there. Groot has ordered the Department to sit on over 20 of them;
    CWB blog – you are what reporting should be in Chicago. We don’t know your operation, if it’s phone calls or emails or actual feet on the street, but you do more to create informed citizens than major newspapers and broadcast entities;
    The Chaplains – Fr. Brandt has done and continues to do God’s work. It is the only police charity we contribute to because we know exactly where every dollar is going. And there isn’t a finer man of G-d alive than Rabbi Wolfe. When we hear he’s in the building, around the District or on a crime scene, we’re getting a handshake and our candy – it’s like a scavenger hunt. The rest are decent people, too. Sorry we only ever got you the $50 from WGN Padre. Maybe others contributed anonymously, but that’s between them and God.
    Our readers. Without you, we would have been nothing. Even last week, we still posted over 90% of comments that didn’t run afoul of the guidelines, and in 15 years, we only had permanent bans on perhaps thirty names.
    We have a few hundred e-mails waiting for us, begging for info, and all we can say right now is, “We don’t know.” We don’t know if this is it, we don’t know if we’ll return. We don’t know what Big Tech has in store for us and the political winds are not fortuitous. We are exploring options and we’ll leave it at that.

    In the meantime, everyone reading should make these sites the first place you go for news and educated opinion:

    Ace of Spades blog – the smartest blog in the world right now
    Instapundit / PJ Media – the Godfather of Libertarian blogging
    Breitbart – even when it’s over the top, it’s more than you’ll get from mainstream sources
    The Contrarian – in depth investigative reporting may just be reborn there
    Watch your backs boys and girls. And your fronts. No one else will.

    One thing I like about Unz is that the comments system messes up sometimes and random comments are attributed to me that I didn’t write. Initially I was shocked, but have learned to really appreciate this feature.

    In fact, all the comments that google wants to come after me for must be the ones I didn’t write.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @wren

    Thanks.

  31. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Bill in Glendale

    Bill, for years now, I've had a problem with inputting email info, much less my phone number (for a text back), into any websites, even those that I was trying to get something useful done on. It was not just about dealing with that much more SPAM mail or robocalls to the phone number.

    Since I had some problems with traffic courts, insurance companies, etc. many years ago, I learned to not give out any info. that someone didn't really need for my purposes. Even back then, things got connected in ways I didn't want. I've always had nagging feelings telling me to not give out info. The events going one this past week have just confirmed that I've been on the right track.

    What I like about Mr. Unz's method is that the email one uses does not have to be a real one. Maybe there are some features I don't know about, like getting notified of replies or something, but he just uses it to establish a unique code to link the one's handle. I don't think it's an innocent deal like this with the google input screen that I too saw when I tried to get on SSC due to Steve's post here.

    Replies: @Bill in Glendale, @anon

    Amen

  32. SlatrStarCodex’s doxxing was just bad luck, based on the fact there were bad people at NYT. Second City Cop’s doxxing was their own fault. It’s stupid to maintain anything you want anonymous on a platform owned by a company whose employees hate you. Ditto that for Parler. They should have seen their vulnerabilities.

    I hope Ron Unz has thought through how his platform is hosted and disseminated.

    • Agree: Hypnotoad666, Kronos
    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Chrisnonymous


    SlatrStarCodex’s doxxing was just bad luck, based on the fact there were bad people at NYT. Second City Cop’s doxxing was their own fault. It’s stupid to maintain anything you want anonymous on a platform owned by a company whose employees hate you.

     

    Bad argument. You could equally well claim nice polyamorated ultragenius Scott Alexander was stupid and it was his own fault for not staying away from controversy and not kissing the ass of the NYT enough.

    Replies: @anon

    , @James N. Kennett
    @Chrisnonymous


    It’s stupid to maintain anything you want anonymous on a platform owned by a company whose employees hate you.
     
    When SCC started, Google was an idealistic tech company whose motto was "Don't Be Evil". They probably seemed the ideal host for an anonymous blog whose content would sometimes annoy Chicago Machine politicians.
  33. @Cortes
    @Mike Tre

    They should put their lives on the line to preserve public safety for three Ritz crackers plus a couple of bowls of gruel on retirement and be grateful?

    Interesting. Good luck with that approach.

    When they start applying the bite “la mordida” you’ll be fine.

    Replies: @SOL, @Mike Tre

    When there is no fraternity with the “citizens” or love of honor, there can be only money as motivation.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @SOL

    On you go.

    Strap on your brotherly love. Your pundonor.

    And good luck when you step down from your stallion into Englewood or Austin.

    Do post a selfie or two as you interact with the community.

  34. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Bill in Glendale

    Bill, for years now, I've had a problem with inputting email info, much less my phone number (for a text back), into any websites, even those that I was trying to get something useful done on. It was not just about dealing with that much more SPAM mail or robocalls to the phone number.

    Since I had some problems with traffic courts, insurance companies, etc. many years ago, I learned to not give out any info. that someone didn't really need for my purposes. Even back then, things got connected in ways I didn't want. I've always had nagging feelings telling me to not give out info. The events going one this past week have just confirmed that I've been on the right track.

    What I like about Mr. Unz's method is that the email one uses does not have to be a real one. Maybe there are some features I don't know about, like getting notified of replies or something, but he just uses it to establish a unique code to link the one's handle. I don't think it's an innocent deal like this with the google input screen that I too saw when I tried to get on SSC due to Steve's post here.

    Replies: @Bill in Glendale, @anon

    I’ve had a problem with inputting email info, much less my phone number

    Burner phones are inexpensive. New SIM cards even more so.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @anon

    I'm familiar with these, #350. They will keep one's information away from the googles, facebooks, and yahoos. Depending on how much you are worried (some would have said till a week ago "how deep your paranoia is"), it's not enough to keep your identity away from the Deep State/NSA, were they interested. For that, you'd need to pay cash, hide your face enough for the facial recognition, etc...

  35. @wren
    I went to HeyJackass to see if they were still up and they had a comment from SSC:

    https://heyjackass.com/

    Statement From Second City Cop
    SCC explains the decision to shut down their website:

    Well, this was certainly a long time coming. Fifteen years, over 22,000 posts, almost two million comments and God knows how many attempts to silence us. But it might finally be over…at least this version of it.

    Over the weekend, we received information from a contact at Google that internal chat/e-mails led them to believe that certain precautions we had taken over the years had been breached by Google. We had gotten similar warnings from others in the past, and we dealt with or ignored them as the situation warranted. But this one was different.

    And this one – on the heels of Big Tech’s wholesale attack on the President, Parler and center-right to right-leaning authors, politicians and voices – pointed to a countdown that had far less time than we had thought. Most likely, far less time than you think, too. The blacklisting has begun, even if you won’t see it. You should – the wholesale abandonment of the President, the denunciations, the, “I wasn’t really with him” self-serving statements. Sound familiar? It should…if you have any recollections of the show trials behind the Iron Curtain, in Southeast Asia, in assorted Middle East kleptocracies.

    Disavowal and re-education is on tap. What Senator McCarthy is remembered for – “Are you now or have you ever been…” has been twisted, refined (Bake that cake!), and exacerbated (Parler is only the first of many). They don’t want “unity.” They want Compliance and as the last fifteen years have shown, we aren’t really good at compliance. The amount of personal data available to “woke companies” who would deny commerce or service based on beliefs, contributions, investments (not Green enough!), social media posting, employment (cops not welcome here), bumper stickers – Have you heard of Operation Choke Point? Look it up and imagine it drilled down to individual citizens. Orwell’s 1984? It’s here.

    In closing, we’d just like to thank a few people:

    Phil Cline – without you banning us from Department computers, we wouldn’t have jumped from 3,000 visits a day to over 30,000 unique daily visits. You, more than anyone, assisted in our success. Some days it topped 50,000, but we thank you for the ten-fold increase. Too bad you can’t ban the next generation SCC;
    HeyJackass.com – the only true source of crime numbers. We know you’ll ferret out a few more hidden bodies to put 2020 over 800. We guarantee that they’re out there. Groot has ordered the Department to sit on over 20 of them;
    CWB blog – you are what reporting should be in Chicago. We don’t know your operation, if it’s phone calls or emails or actual feet on the street, but you do more to create informed citizens than major newspapers and broadcast entities;
    The Chaplains – Fr. Brandt has done and continues to do God’s work. It is the only police charity we contribute to because we know exactly where every dollar is going. And there isn’t a finer man of G-d alive than Rabbi Wolfe. When we hear he’s in the building, around the District or on a crime scene, we’re getting a handshake and our candy – it’s like a scavenger hunt. The rest are decent people, too. Sorry we only ever got you the $50 from WGN Padre. Maybe others contributed anonymously, but that’s between them and God.
    Our readers. Without you, we would have been nothing. Even last week, we still posted over 90% of comments that didn’t run afoul of the guidelines, and in 15 years, we only had permanent bans on perhaps thirty names.
    We have a few hundred e-mails waiting for us, begging for info, and all we can say right now is, “We don’t know.” We don’t know if this is it, we don’t know if we’ll return. We don’t know what Big Tech has in store for us and the political winds are not fortuitous. We are exploring options and we’ll leave it at that.

    In the meantime, everyone reading should make these sites the first place you go for news and educated opinion:

    Ace of Spades blog – the smartest blog in the world right now
    Instapundit / PJ Media – the Godfather of Libertarian blogging
    Breitbart – even when it’s over the top, it’s more than you’ll get from mainstream sources
    The Contrarian – in depth investigative reporting may just be reborn there
    Watch your backs boys and girls. And your fronts. No one else will.
     
    One thing I like about Unz is that the comments system messes up sometimes and random comments are attributed to me that I didn't write. Initially I was shocked, but have learned to really appreciate this feature.

    In fact, all the comments that google wants to come after me for must be the ones I didn't write.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Thanks.

  36. @Chrisnonymous
    @Technite78

    There should be massive movements to leave these tech companies. Close your FB and Twitter accounts. Stop using Gmail. Get new non-Apple and non-Google phones. Start educating yourself about how the internet works at a nuts and bolts level so you can understand privacy better. Etc.

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @Technite78, @SimpleSong, @Dnought

    We currently have a gun culture in America that not only cares about political rights, but also has a lot of people who are very interested in the technical aspects of firearms. I hope that we can develop a similar culture (likely with similar sorts of people) around communications and internet issues–political action combined with self-reliance and an interest in the technical details.

    People have been willing to fight for 2A for a long time, they just took it for granted that 1A was safe, but surprisingly it appears that 1A will go down before 2A.

    • Replies: @wren
    @SimpleSong

    One very bright guy has been thinking about this for a while and tweeted about a system that may evolve in the future where folks host their own sites on Musk's starlink satellites using crypto micropayments. Obviously we are a ways away from this, but recent events should accelerate the migration process.

    I can't find the tweets right now, but here are some similar blog posts.

    https://balajis.com/set-up-a-paid-newsletter-at-your-own-domain/

    https://balajis.com/how-to-gradually-exit-twitter/

    Replies: @Goatweed, @SimpleSong

  37. @Clyde
    OT
    23 die in Norway after receiving Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine nypost.com › 2021/01/15 › 23-die-in-norway-after-rec...
    7 hours ago — Twenty-three people died in Norway within days of receiving their first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, with 13 of those deaths — all ...

    Replies: @AKAHorace, @AKAHorace

    23 die in Norway after receiving Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine nypost.com › 2021/01/15 › 23-die-in-norway-after-rec…
    7 hours ago — Twenty-three people died in Norway within days of receiving their first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, with 13 of those deaths — all …

    Yes, but..

    All 13 were nursing home patients and at least 80 years old. While officials aren’t expressing serious concern, they are adjusting their guidance on who should receive the vaccine.

    “We are not alarmed by this,” Steinar Madsen, medical director with the agency, told Norwegian broadcaster NRK. “It is quite clear that these vaccines have very little risk, with a small exception for the frailest patients.”

    Health officials noted that around 400 people die each week in the nursing home population.

    You would need some statistical analysis to know if this is a serious problem or not.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @AKAHorace

    The 56 year old doctor in Florida who was in excellent health who died after getting the vaccine was likely a death caused by the vaccine. It could have been something else, but it sure sounds like the vaccine killed him.

    But there have been about 12 million vaccinations in the US so far.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Pericles, @Bardon Kaldian, @alaska3636

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @AKAHorace


    You would need some statistical analysis to know if this is a serious problem or not.

     

    Are there more boats burning in the fjords?


    https://823883.smushcdn.com/1621945/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/viking-cremation-ashes-original-funeral.jpg?size=650x432&lossy=1&strip=1&webp=1

    Replies: @Clyde

    , @El Dato
    @AKAHorace

    **"23" is an absolute number**

    I laugh at people who wander around telling everyone "Are you afraid of COVID? HA! HA!" and deposit a big brown thing into their underpants when the vaccination is not 110% risk-free.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  38. @SOL
    @Cortes

    When there is no fraternity with the "citizens" or love of honor, there can be only money as motivation.

    Replies: @Cortes

    On you go.

    Strap on your brotherly love. Your pundonor.

    And good luck when you step down from your stallion into Englewood or Austin.

    Do post a selfie or two as you interact with the community.

  39. @Mike Tre
    The only big problem I ever had with SCC (as a native of Chicago I feel qualified to opine on this) was their staunch sense of entitlement in regard to their lavish pensions. Those guys were as bad as any CPS teachers' union steward with the rhetoric, often citing pensions as their "state constitutional right." They were perfectly happy to go down with the ship as long as they were provided with first class accommodations.

    That in itself was merely a symptom of the larger disease; that being police really are only protecting and serving their pensions. Urban police are modern day Sheriff's of Nottingham.

    And finally, over all the years I read them, never one damn look in the mirror on how their public sector union was a big big part of the problem.


    But aside from that, they were an invaluable look inside the Chicago Machine.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Cortes, @Bartleby the Scrivner, @Anon, @europeasant, @Curle

    The reason they are so enamored with their pensions could be because they put 9% of their pay into it each paycheck. Kinda like wanting to get what they pay for. The teachers union doesn’t pay anything into theirs I think. Fact check me.
    People who contribute to SS want their benefits when due. Police want their own investment back as well.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Bartleby the Scrivner

    “Deferred pay” is the usual term for this in the UK Civil Service.

    Under threat forever, of course.

    You want impartial service?

    A: understanding “ impartial” is a good place to start.

    B: see A.

    , @Mike Tre
    @Bartleby the Scrivner

    How much of my paycheck goes to paying for local, state, and federal law enforcement? (Fact check me, bro) I'd sure like to get my money's worth.

    When BLM is busy burning my fucking city down, and the CPD are caught lounging in a district building, something tells me I'm not quite getting it.

    https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-police-riot-looting-riots/9662169/

    Replies: @Bartleby the Scrivner

    , @Cletus
    @Bartleby the Scrivner

    As of a few years ago, the teachers themselves put in 2% and the "school district" paid the other 7%.

    I'm being a jerk with the scare quotes, but I hated being told that since it was me and other taxpayers making that contribution, not the meanies at CPS.

    Replies: @Bartleby the Scrivner

    , @Abolish_public_education
    @Bartleby the Scrivner

    Cops, FFs, schoolteachers, etc. do not make pension contributions.

    Public pensions are funded by taxes.

    Only private sector types pay taxes.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Curle

  40. @Chrisnonymous
    @Technite78

    There should be massive movements to leave these tech companies. Close your FB and Twitter accounts. Stop using Gmail. Get new non-Apple and non-Google phones. Start educating yourself about how the internet works at a nuts and bolts level so you can understand privacy better. Etc.

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @Technite78, @SimpleSong, @Dnought

    Agree completely.

  41. @AKAHorace
    @Clyde

    23 die in Norway after receiving Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine nypost.com › 2021/01/15 › 23-die-in-norway-after-rec…
    7 hours ago — Twenty-three people died in Norway within days of receiving their first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, with 13 of those deaths — all …


    Yes, but..

    All 13 were nursing home patients and at least 80 years old. While officials aren’t expressing serious concern, they are adjusting their guidance on who should receive the vaccine.

    “We are not alarmed by this,” Steinar Madsen, medical director with the agency, told Norwegian broadcaster NRK. “It is quite clear that these vaccines have very little risk, with a small exception for the frailest patients.”

    Health officials noted that around 400 people die each week in the nursing home population.

    You would need some statistical analysis to know if this is a serious problem or not.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar, @El Dato

    The 56 year old doctor in Florida who was in excellent health who died after getting the vaccine was likely a death caused by the vaccine. It could have been something else, but it sure sounds like the vaccine killed him.

    But there have been about 12 million vaccinations in the US so far.

    • Troll: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Steve Sailer


    It could have been something else, but it sure sounds like the vaccine killed him.
     
    I wonder what standard of proof will be employed for inferring that cause of death was vax?

    How will it compare to the standard used to list someone as killed by covid? For example, will anyone who dies within 60 days of getting vax be automatically counted as a vax casualty?
    , @Pericles
    @Steve Sailer

    The name of that doctor? George Floyd.

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Steve Sailer

    My two acquaintances got their first Pfizer anti-Covid shot a week ago, along with their 84 years old mother, when they transferred her to a nursing home. She was the first to get vaccinated.

    No side effects.

    , @alaska3636
    @Steve Sailer

    My wife received both doses of the Pfizer vaccine. Pain in the arm and general achiness for a day.

    Like most vaccines, most people will be fine and a tiny percentage will have a bad reaction. Vaccines are 99% safe like Covid. That argument cuts both ways ironically.

  42. @Bartleby the Scrivner
    @Mike Tre

    The reason they are so enamored with their pensions could be because they put 9% of their pay into it each paycheck. Kinda like wanting to get what they pay for. The teachers union doesn’t pay anything into theirs I think. Fact check me.
    People who contribute to SS want their benefits when due. Police want their own investment back as well.

    Replies: @Cortes, @Mike Tre, @Cletus, @Abolish_public_education

    “Deferred pay” is the usual term for this in the UK Civil Service.

    Under threat forever, of course.

    You want impartial service?

    A: understanding “ impartial” is a good place to start.

    B: see A.

  43. @Clyde
    OT
    23 die in Norway after receiving Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine nypost.com › 2021/01/15 › 23-die-in-norway-after-rec...
    7 hours ago — Twenty-three people died in Norway within days of receiving their first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, with 13 of those deaths — all ...

    Replies: @AKAHorace, @AKAHorace

    Also in the same issue of the New York Post:https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/wife-of-queens-proud-boy-arrested-in-capitol-plot-wants-a-divorce/

    Every crisis is an opportunity if you have the right mindset. From her GoFundme page:

    Wife ready to take a stand for America

    ($190 raised of $2,000,000 goal)

    I am petrified for my children and my life to speak out. But I am ready to take a stand with your support. The attack on the Capitol was a tragedy and is now the Trump legacy. I can’t take this on while having to support 2 children. I will dedicate my life to this. I will be the first Trump voter to take that stand and admit we got this very wrong.

    I am divorcing him immediately!
    I am not a radical idiot like him and didn’t really pay attention to Trump until election season. He really played us! And I am willing to admit I got this wrong!

    1. I will use the money to start a movement and sue Donald Trump for radicalizing some of his supporters. For ALL Americans left and right because families have been affected on both sides.

    2. To create a movement to sue parler for creating a platform to organize the worst crimes made by the worst domestic terrorists in America’s history the “proud boys”

    2. I will use the money to give my children a better life while making this my life’s mission, so that I don’t fall to the poverty of a Radical Trump supporter like Eduard who made sure to always have financial control over me like Donald Trump. And to keep my babies safe during a very sensitive time.

    3. I will use some to divorce Eduard while working with the FBI as a witness in this case.

    Eduard made sure to use his privilege again in court when he suggested he should be let out on bail since he is the sole provider. I lost my job during this pandemic (huge bummer) and my babies are home from school. They are the best, sweetest, brightest, and innocent in this. You will be saving their life and countless others.

    We all have to heal together from the spoken and unspoken pain of the last four years.

    I am asking for every American to pitch in and help me to give my Olvia and Eduard the life they deserve away from this radical bully and to save all the children of America in what will become the Trump legacy. He must be held accountable for the radicalization of our nation and awakening the spirit of the past evils!

    I would also like to use the funds to start a movement for victims of domestic violence at the hands of radical Trump supporters so that they can finally take a stand and make it right with me.

    I am certain there are so many women just like me in America, who are so afraid to speak up because they lack financial support.

    I want to thank every American who gets behind this movement. This is without a doubt one of the most unspoken truths happening accross America and an opportunity for us all to help with a way forward. These men need to be held accountable.

    I am ready to take the hand of unity and never let go again. The biggest threat that stood in my way is out of my house and finally out of the white house. Thank you America for getting this right when some of us just couldn’t.

    To the FBI thank you for showing me that my voice matters. I don’t remember the last time I felt that.

    Anyone who wants to help put this movement together and get involved message me

    Any news agency that would like further comments can message me with name and news outlet.

    This story and page should trend as #forolivia

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @AKAHorace

    Great Moments in Fundraising:

    ($190 raised of $2,000,000 goal)

    , @BenKenobi
    @AKAHorace

    Der ewige Frau

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @AKAHorace

    Great take on it, Horace. I read the NY Post article (first, because I wasn't sure your writing wasn't all direct from the article), and this explains very well why revolutions and such are more of a young and single man's game.

    As for the guy's 2,000 rounds of rifle ammunition, that's just a decent stash, especially if he had .22 LR in there for a plinking/training rifle. 2,000 rounds of it would be less than 4 small cartons, each about the size of a pint milk carton. The news is big on reporting thousands of rounds of small caliber ammo.

    The thing that irks me the most about that story is the spelling of Edward with a "u". Who the hell does that?

    Replies: @AKAHorace, @White Men Can’t Jump

    , @ES
    @AKAHorace


    But I am ready to take a stand with your support.
    ...
    I am divorcing him immediately!
     
    I got a feeling the guy will find prison more amenable than life with that woman.

    Stand by Your Man
  44. @SimpleSong
    @Chrisnonymous

    We currently have a gun culture in America that not only cares about political rights, but also has a lot of people who are very interested in the technical aspects of firearms. I hope that we can develop a similar culture (likely with similar sorts of people) around communications and internet issues--political action combined with self-reliance and an interest in the technical details.

    People have been willing to fight for 2A for a long time, they just took it for granted that 1A was safe, but surprisingly it appears that 1A will go down before 2A.

    Replies: @wren

    One very bright guy has been thinking about this for a while and tweeted about a system that may evolve in the future where folks host their own sites on Musk’s starlink satellites using crypto micropayments. Obviously we are a ways away from this, but recent events should accelerate the migration process.

    I can’t find the tweets right now, but here are some similar blog posts.

    https://balajis.com/set-up-a-paid-newsletter-at-your-own-domain/

    https://balajis.com/how-to-gradually-exit-twitter/

    • Replies: @Goatweed
    @wren

    Will Musk have HQ in Budapest or Warsaw to avoid American jurisdiction?

    Replies: @wren

    , @SimpleSong
    @wren

    Yeah, I'm actually pretty excited about Starlink, if it pans out, because bad internet connectivity is one of the things keeping me from moving even further outside of the cities. I think a lot of others may be in the same boat.

    I've heard that, aside from Musk, there is a European and a Russian consortium all trying to get versions of this going, so it is pretty clearly technically possible at this point and seems like it really will happen.

    In fact if you could use an ISP that wasn't even based in the US that would be even better.

    Replies: @Pericles

  45. I grew up in the silicon valley and it used to be a very libertarian place. Also very lily white. Things such as religion in politics was frowned upon, but privacy, smoking pot, sexual liberation, and the ability to do your own thing as long as it did not harm others was the ethos. Low taxes and entrepreneurship was respected. Now it is much more immigration-identity politics Democratic machine where everyone is paranoid.

    There are many people living there now who hate the reigning overlords and are quite happy to take them down. 30% of Californians voted for Trump. That means 3 out of 10 voting adults. And it is not just white men. There are many Chinese, Iranians, Russian-Jews, etc. that absolutely hate Biden. They have potentially become “stay behinds” or partisans in enemy occupied territory that when given the opportunity are happy to take their pound of flesh.

    James O’Keeffe is now more of a Julian Assange. He used to dress up himself in pimp costumes and then try to pull stunts. Now he just advertises himself and people come to him with information. This obsession that Obama had about outing reporters and their sources will come back with a vengeance as the Democrats go about looting the government again. The problem for the black hats is that it is becoming harder and harder to hide things. Pulling a ‘chemical attack in Syria’ or sleezy Hunter Biden Ukraine bribes is now basically impossible without the help of big tech. Trump had a relatively clean government because he was in a fishbowl. Had he grifted for himself and his family he would have immediately stepped on a land mine so he behaved. The left is on borrowed time.

    • Agree: wren
    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Prof. Woland


    The left is on borrowed Miller time.
     
    The Left will be steroid city--Hunter Biden's antics are amateur hour, compared to what they'll be getting up to now. Who's gonna stop them?? Who's gonna "out" them?? Biden is the Left's hero for taking out Trump. The grift and graft will be legion. Trickle-down government spending here we come!
  46. @Chrisnonymous
    @Technite78

    There should be massive movements to leave these tech companies. Close your FB and Twitter accounts. Stop using Gmail. Get new non-Apple and non-Google phones. Start educating yourself about how the internet works at a nuts and bolts level so you can understand privacy better. Etc.

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @Technite78, @SimpleSong, @Dnought

    Along these lines, here are my opinions on best tech to use/stuff to know for Unz readers:

    1.) Browser: best choice is Brave. Made by an Unz commenter (seriously.)

    2.) Learn to use tor, a network tool that allows you to shield your identity when browsing. It’s built in to Brave, so, not so hard. Also tor allows you to read the NYT for free.

    3.) Web search: Duck Duck Go is the best in my opinion, but anything that isn’t Google is OK–fragmenting the market keeps the search engines honest.

    4.) Facebook and gmail–Consider just buying a domain name and getting a basic web host. Assuming this is just your personal page with not much traffic this should be <$10 per month. If you do this you can also run your own email server, so this doubly frees you up. Offer to host your friends as well.

    5.) If you don't want to do 4.) think about Protonmail as an alternative to gmail.

    6.) Don't ever use an app to access something on your phone that you could just access through the phone's web browser.

    7.) Try putting a few bucks into cryptocurrencies and making a few small transactions. I'm not saying put your life savings into it; I'm just saying learn how it works. Personally I think monero is better design than bitcoin but opinions vary.

    8.) If you heat your house with electric space heaters, get rid of those and instead heat the room by getting an old computer and putting it to work mining crypto. You still get the heat, but now you get some cryptocurrency too. Insofar as the value of crypto is its anonymity, it's best to mine the coins yourself instead of using an exchange.

    9.) Run linux instead of Microsoft Windows or Apple iOS. Linux mint is my favorite but Ubuntu is pretty solid as well.

    10.) Use LibreOffice instead of Microsoft office. In general always use open-source software unless it is just totally inadequate.

    11.) You can also get linux smartphones such as the PinePhone if you are really hardcore, and this avoids dealing with Apple and Google. Haven't used one so I can't really say much more.

    • Thanks: Rob McX, wren, Kronos, ic1000
    • Replies: @Polynikes
    @SimpleSong

    Use a VPN?

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @SimpleSong

    1,2- I'm not very knowledgeable about tech, but I was reading a discussion forum with some real savvy privacy nerds. Aparently, simply using Tor is not very effective. You essentially create a profile of yourself when you go online based on things like your browser settings. This profile can be tracked even with Tor on, so anonymizers need to be used in conjunction with habits of disinformation. Everyone needs to read about this kind of stuff in greater detail.

    4- As Parler's experience showed, this is not really adequate. You need to be more careful than your own website, and ultimately if banks stop working with you, you are SOL. The US really needs a "Free Speech Bank" first and then to build up from there with Free Speech payment processors, etc. There is a right wing payment processor who is trying to get going, as interviewed on Censored.TV. However, I don't think that's the right approach. We need things focused on freedom of speech, not right wing ghettos.

    6- Why?

    8- But what do you do in the summer? I was under the impression that the amount of cryptocurrency you could mine didn't make up for what you pay keeping a computer going all the time.

    9- Linux is good for now. Unfortunately, the contributors seem increasingly woke. I think it would be possible to add censoring or doxxing features at the level of the OS. Is there another alternative?

    11- How much control does Google have over my phone if I run Android? How much do they know about me? And what's going on with John McAfee's privacy phone?

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @Achmed E. Newman, @Almost Missouri, @Jim Don Bob

    , @Almost Missouri
    @SimpleSong


    1.) Browser: best choice is Brave.
     
    Vivaldi good too. And Gab's Dissenter browser.

    2.) Learn to use tor
     
    Despite Snowden's endorsement, something's wrong with Tor lately. Sites on the far end can know your location. I don't know if it is anything to do with "browser settings" as Chrisnonymous suggests, but somehow it's gotten leaky in a way that even non-tech-lord sites have visibility through the tunnel.

    3.) Web search: Duck Duck Go is the best in my opinion, but anything that isn’t Google is OK–fragmenting the market keeps the search engines honest.
     
    Other good search engines to keep market fragmented and honest: Yippy, StartPage. There are others.

    5.) ... think about Protonmail ...
     
    There are others too, e.g., Tutanota. Note that most have significant limitations in the free versions.

    6.) Don't ever use an app to access something on your phone that you could just access through the phone's web browser.
     
    Agree. Apps are spyware. For some reason it is very hard to get people to understand this. Even if you are not using the app, once you have downloaded and installed it, many apps have invisible components that are running all the time in the background.

    7.) ... monero is better design than bitcoin
     
    Agree.

    9.) Run linux instead of Microsoft Windows or Apple iOS.
     
    Agree, but note that all machines nowadays have hidden operating systems running underneath the OS you think you're using.

    10.) ... use open-source software unless it is just totally inadequate.
     
    Agree.

    11.) You can also get linux smartphones such as the PinePhone if you are really hardcore, and this avoids dealing with Apple and Google.
     
    Agree, but note that no matter what phone you have, you still have to deal with a carrier (AT&T, Verizon, etc). Carriers have been notable among the corporate wokarchy as the dogs who haven't barked ... yet. They are all converged by the NSA, so if the Three Letter Guys want to listen in, they will, but so far, I know of no cases of woke employees doxxing customers, leaking private data, or blocking you based on your viewpoint. Why not? Maybe because they come from the Common Carrier era that predated the insane perversion of Section 230 that has led to the woke impunity culture. Or maybe because you really have to be able to do something to work there, so mouthing wokitude isn't enough. OTOH, these carriers are all pledging allegiance to BLM, diversity, etc., so it is probably just a matter of time before they become SiliValley-ized.

    The bottom line in security/anonymity is compartmentalization. Keep your crimethought identity and your real identity apart as much as possible: separate accounts, separate browsers, separate software, preferably separate hardware—preferably hardware that doesn't advertise its location.*

    Obviously, if you have to pay for anything, this becomes problematic, as your crimethought identity probably doesn't have any funds, so you have to connect your real identity or just try to operate gratis. You can justify paying for anonymity via VPN, for example, but understand the risks of what you are doing.

    ------

    *This is increasingly impossible if you access the internet, as the location of any wifi router or cell tower that you connect through is usually known with some precision.

    Replies: @Too Long Didn't Read, @Dissident

  47. @216
    @Abolish_public_education

    Lol, lolbertarians run the DC Conservative Inc organizations.

    The base has been screaming for protectionism since Buchanan and Perot, but they kept foisting free trade on us.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory, @Stan d Mute, @Magic Dirt Resident

    That was the Chamber of Commerce. The libertarians have never had any power.

  48. @Anonymous
    We know Big Tech isn’t ultimately behind this. They didn’t and couldn’t coordinate this well-timed de-platforming. It’s a total Deep State operation. The leaked Jack Dorsey video indicates that he was being directed to act.

    It was almost 8 years ago when whistleblower Edward Snowden spilled the beans on Deep State’s thorough co-opting of Big Tech and using it to spy on Americans. Since then it has now doubt gotten orders of magnitude more intimately intertwined and controlled by Deep State which has funneled CLASSIFIED amounts of government money into it.


    https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/silicon_valley_censorship.jpg

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @ziggurat, @anon, @Hypnotoad666, @Stan d Mute

    The cartoon you showed was done by Ben Garrison, who was just banned from Twitter.

    … on January 8, 2021, following his support for the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol, he was permanently banned from Twitter and temporarily suspended from Facebook.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Garrison

    • Replies: @ziggurat
    @ziggurat

    Don't click the link, if cartoons bring out the insurrectionist in you.

    This is the cartoon that Twitter thought was too dangerous to allow anyone to see.

    https://grrrgraphics.com/can-you-hear-us-now/

  49. @ziggurat
    @Anonymous

    The cartoon you showed was done by Ben Garrison, who was just banned from Twitter.


    ... on January 8, 2021, following his support for the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol, he was permanently banned from Twitter and temporarily suspended from Facebook.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Garrison

    Replies: @ziggurat

    Don’t click the link, if cartoons bring out the insurrectionist in you.

    This is the cartoon that Twitter thought was too dangerous to allow anyone to see.

    https://grrrgraphics.com/can-you-hear-us-now/

  50. @Chrisnonymous
    @Technite78

    There should be massive movements to leave these tech companies. Close your FB and Twitter accounts. Stop using Gmail. Get new non-Apple and non-Google phones. Start educating yourself about how the internet works at a nuts and bolts level so you can understand privacy better. Etc.

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @Technite78, @SimpleSong, @Dnought

    Been doing all those things forever. Never signed up for Facebook or Twitter. Don’t have a Google account, let alone Gmail. Still use a flip phone. I bought something from Amazon once (never again). It is incredibly easy to live this way….easier than most people can even imagine. No, I’m not a Luddite, or “totally off the grid” by any means, but I saw where this was going more than twenty years ago. Snowden was only further confirmation of what I already long knew. If every realist (millions and millions) would do these things, the world would change-hard and fast.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Dnought

    Well, I think they are all easy to give up except Amazon. As brick and mortar disappears, I use Amazon more and more because it has stuff I can't find elsewhere. I resisted having any cellphone at all for years, but ironically, I bought a Google phone in December. I live in Japan, and it is getting more and more difficukt--almost impossible--to live without a phone. They are assumed now, snd if you try to do things like sign up services without one, you may be refused or find it logistically impossible. The US will be like this soon. The obvious place we are heading is having a device that you need to have with you to board trains, start automobiles, make purchases, etc. It will track you, and TPTB will be able to shut down your ability to live in real time. "I just clicked a link on UR, and now I can't use my credit card."

  51. @SimpleSong
    @Chrisnonymous

    Along these lines, here are my opinions on best tech to use/stuff to know for Unz readers:

    1.) Browser: best choice is Brave. Made by an Unz commenter (seriously.)

    2.) Learn to use tor, a network tool that allows you to shield your identity when browsing. It's built in to Brave, so, not so hard. Also tor allows you to read the NYT for free.

    3.) Web search: Duck Duck Go is the best in my opinion, but anything that isn't Google is OK--fragmenting the market keeps the search engines honest.

    4.) Facebook and gmail--Consider just buying a domain name and getting a basic web host. Assuming this is just your personal page with not much traffic this should be <$10 per month. If you do this you can also run your own email server, so this doubly frees you up. Offer to host your friends as well.

    5.) If you don't want to do 4.) think about Protonmail as an alternative to gmail.

    6.) Don't ever use an app to access something on your phone that you could just access through the phone's web browser.

    7.) Try putting a few bucks into cryptocurrencies and making a few small transactions. I'm not saying put your life savings into it; I'm just saying learn how it works. Personally I think monero is better design than bitcoin but opinions vary.

    8.) If you heat your house with electric space heaters, get rid of those and instead heat the room by getting an old computer and putting it to work mining crypto. You still get the heat, but now you get some cryptocurrency too. Insofar as the value of crypto is its anonymity, it's best to mine the coins yourself instead of using an exchange.

    9.) Run linux instead of Microsoft Windows or Apple iOS. Linux mint is my favorite but Ubuntu is pretty solid as well.

    10.) Use LibreOffice instead of Microsoft office. In general always use open-source software unless it is just totally inadequate.

    11.) You can also get linux smartphones such as the PinePhone if you are really hardcore, and this avoids dealing with Apple and Google. Haven't used one so I can't really say much more.

    Replies: @Polynikes, @Chrisnonymous, @Almost Missouri

    Use a VPN?

  52. Anon[135] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike Tre
    The only big problem I ever had with SCC (as a native of Chicago I feel qualified to opine on this) was their staunch sense of entitlement in regard to their lavish pensions. Those guys were as bad as any CPS teachers' union steward with the rhetoric, often citing pensions as their "state constitutional right." They were perfectly happy to go down with the ship as long as they were provided with first class accommodations.

    That in itself was merely a symptom of the larger disease; that being police really are only protecting and serving their pensions. Urban police are modern day Sheriff's of Nottingham.

    And finally, over all the years I read them, never one damn look in the mirror on how their public sector union was a big big part of the problem.


    But aside from that, they were an invaluable look inside the Chicago Machine.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Cortes, @Bartleby the Scrivner, @Anon, @europeasant, @Curle

    An overpaid public sector is the bane of city budgets, but deep down, I think anyone who works a job dealing everyday with godawful ghetto blacks deserves good pay, whether a cop or a teacher. It’s a tough job, and very demoralizing trying to pound learning and lawful obedience into stupid, sociopathic blacks.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Anon

    " It’s a tough job, and very demoralizing trying to pound learning and lawful obedience into stupid, sociopathic blacks. "

    They can always quit and find a new job, less dangerous. But they don't. They instead target normies and write citations for imaginary traffic crimes or simply hide out their entire shift watching porn in the squad car they take home with them. Think I'm kidding? I have 2 first cousins who are CPD officers who do exactly that. They certainly aren't the only ones.

    Replies: @Bartleby the Scrivner

  53. Steve, this crackdown is why I’ve chosen to go dark. I knew 20 yrs ago just instinctively to keep my head low and use fake handles online and to be as vague as possible.

    I could feel several yrs ago various acquaintances on social media(I’ve now mostly divested myself from any social media) viciously go after “religious extremists” when discussing street preachers in LA.

    There is now a Cultural Revolution type zeal to go after even moderates or people like me…..who are privately religious but who don’t go to church….

    It won’t end well politically for Big Tech even in the medium term but in the mean time i don’t need or want my privacy invaded.

    Hence why i am going into a “read only and occassionally ask questions” mode…..

  54. @AKAHorace
    @Clyde

    23 die in Norway after receiving Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine nypost.com › 2021/01/15 › 23-die-in-norway-after-rec…
    7 hours ago — Twenty-three people died in Norway within days of receiving their first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, with 13 of those deaths — all …


    Yes, but..

    All 13 were nursing home patients and at least 80 years old. While officials aren’t expressing serious concern, they are adjusting their guidance on who should receive the vaccine.

    “We are not alarmed by this,” Steinar Madsen, medical director with the agency, told Norwegian broadcaster NRK. “It is quite clear that these vaccines have very little risk, with a small exception for the frailest patients.”

    Health officials noted that around 400 people die each week in the nursing home population.

    You would need some statistical analysis to know if this is a serious problem or not.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar, @El Dato

    You would need some statistical analysis to know if this is a serious problem or not.

    Are there more boats burning in the fjords?

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Reg Cæsar

    Last Season Vikings on Amazon--Watched it last week. Best watched in the summer to cool off in the fjords of Greenland where they last ventured out.

  55. anon[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    We know Big Tech isn’t ultimately behind this. They didn’t and couldn’t coordinate this well-timed de-platforming. It’s a total Deep State operation. The leaked Jack Dorsey video indicates that he was being directed to act.

    It was almost 8 years ago when whistleblower Edward Snowden spilled the beans on Deep State’s thorough co-opting of Big Tech and using it to spy on Americans. Since then it has now doubt gotten orders of magnitude more intimately intertwined and controlled by Deep State which has funneled CLASSIFIED amounts of government money into it.


    https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/silicon_valley_censorship.jpg

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @ziggurat, @anon, @Hypnotoad666, @Stan d Mute

    That political cartoon has it wrong about Parler. There is a seemingly decent probability that Parler was a honey trap all along.

    wired link

    cybernews link

    1) they asked for pictures of photo id’s–nobody does that, that is WEIRD!
    2) site was designed such that trivially easy to scrape literally every post ever made to the site, including private and deleted posts.
    3) photos and videos were not stripped of metadata– thus giving precise lat/longitude coordinates.

    It’s hard to put into words how insanely wrong and stupid these mistakes were. So stupid that it almost seems as if it were on purpose…

    Here you can see precise locations of where Parler videos were filmed

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    @anon

    Yeah Parler seems a bit fishy to me...

    I've always assumed all of the 'winning' digital media companies had some help from the deep state, or after it became apparent they were going to gain a dominant market position the deep state paid them a visit to make sure there was an understanding...

    WeChat, Baidu, etc., are all pretty clearly entwined with the Chinese government, I can't imagine our major social media companies aren't just as entwined with our government.

  56. @Steve Sailer
    @AKAHorace

    The 56 year old doctor in Florida who was in excellent health who died after getting the vaccine was likely a death caused by the vaccine. It could have been something else, but it sure sounds like the vaccine killed him.

    But there have been about 12 million vaccinations in the US so far.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Pericles, @Bardon Kaldian, @alaska3636

    It could have been something else, but it sure sounds like the vaccine killed him.

    I wonder what standard of proof will be employed for inferring that cause of death was vax?

    How will it compare to the standard used to list someone as killed by covid? For example, will anyone who dies within 60 days of getting vax be automatically counted as a vax casualty?

  57. @AKAHorace
    @Clyde

    Also in the same issue of the New York Post:https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/wife-of-queens-proud-boy-arrested-in-capitol-plot-wants-a-divorce/

    Every crisis is an opportunity if you have the right mindset. From her GoFundme page:

    Wife ready to take a stand for America

    ($190 raised of $2,000,000 goal)


    I am petrified for my children and my life to speak out. But I am ready to take a stand with your support. The attack on the Capitol was a tragedy and is now the Trump legacy. I can't take this on while having to support 2 children. I will dedicate my life to this. I will be the first Trump voter to take that stand and admit we got this very wrong.

    I am divorcing him immediately!
    I am not a radical idiot like him and didn't really pay attention to Trump until election season. He really played us! And I am willing to admit I got this wrong!

    1. I will use the money to start a movement and sue Donald Trump for radicalizing some of his supporters. For ALL Americans left and right because families have been affected on both sides.

    2. To create a movement to sue parler for creating a platform to organize the worst crimes made by the worst domestic terrorists in America's history the "proud boys"

    2. I will use the money to give my children a better life while making this my life's mission, so that I don't fall to the poverty of a Radical Trump supporter like Eduard who made sure to always have financial control over me like Donald Trump. And to keep my babies safe during a very sensitive time.

    3. I will use some to divorce Eduard while working with the FBI as a witness in this case.

    Eduard made sure to use his privilege again in court when he suggested he should be let out on bail since he is the sole provider. I lost my job during this pandemic (huge bummer) and my babies are home from school. They are the best, sweetest, brightest, and innocent in this. You will be saving their life and countless others.

    We all have to heal together from the spoken and unspoken pain of the last four years.

    I am asking for every American to pitch in and help me to give my Olvia and Eduard the life they deserve away from this radical bully and to save all the children of America in what will become the Trump legacy. He must be held accountable for the radicalization of our nation and awakening the spirit of the past evils!

    I would also like to use the funds to start a movement for victims of domestic violence at the hands of radical Trump supporters so that they can finally take a stand and make it right with me.

    I am certain there are so many women just like me in America, who are so afraid to speak up because they lack financial support.

    I want to thank every American who gets behind this movement. This is without a doubt one of the most unspoken truths happening accross America and an opportunity for us all to help with a way forward. These men need to be held accountable.

    I am ready to take the hand of unity and never let go again. The biggest threat that stood in my way is out of my house and finally out of the white house. Thank you America for getting this right when some of us just couldn't.

    To the FBI thank you for showing me that my voice matters. I don't remember the last time I felt that.

    Anyone who wants to help put this movement together and get involved message me

    Any news agency that would like further comments can message me with name and news outlet.

    This story and page should trend as #forolivia

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @BenKenobi, @Achmed E. Newman, @ES

    Great Moments in Fundraising:

    ($190 raised of $2,000,000 goal)

  58. @Bartleby the Scrivner
    @Mike Tre

    The reason they are so enamored with their pensions could be because they put 9% of their pay into it each paycheck. Kinda like wanting to get what they pay for. The teachers union doesn’t pay anything into theirs I think. Fact check me.
    People who contribute to SS want their benefits when due. Police want their own investment back as well.

    Replies: @Cortes, @Mike Tre, @Cletus, @Abolish_public_education

    How much of my paycheck goes to paying for local, state, and federal law enforcement? (Fact check me, bro) I’d sure like to get my money’s worth.

    When BLM is busy burning my fucking city down, and the CPD are caught lounging in a district building, something tells me I’m not quite getting it.

    https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-police-riot-looting-riots/9662169/

    • Replies: @Bartleby the Scrivner
    @Mike Tre

    Great question. Although I’m pretty sure coppers pay Federal Taxes as well,(no fact checking required).
    What the cops are doing, at least in Chicago, is locking up offenders who engage in crime.
    Then the offenders are released
    Then the beefs come
    Then your listing your assets with the city
    Then your getting sued
    Then your getting fired
    See, not everyone is “lounging at the station”. But hey, run for Mayor. Change the situation. You got my vote.

  59. @Cortes
    @Mike Tre

    They should put their lives on the line to preserve public safety for three Ritz crackers plus a couple of bowls of gruel on retirement and be grateful?

    Interesting. Good luck with that approach.

    When they start applying the bite “la mordida” you’ll be fine.

    Replies: @SOL, @Mike Tre

    Straw man. Take your absolutist rhetoric elsewhere.

  60. @SimpleSong
    @Chrisnonymous

    Along these lines, here are my opinions on best tech to use/stuff to know for Unz readers:

    1.) Browser: best choice is Brave. Made by an Unz commenter (seriously.)

    2.) Learn to use tor, a network tool that allows you to shield your identity when browsing. It's built in to Brave, so, not so hard. Also tor allows you to read the NYT for free.

    3.) Web search: Duck Duck Go is the best in my opinion, but anything that isn't Google is OK--fragmenting the market keeps the search engines honest.

    4.) Facebook and gmail--Consider just buying a domain name and getting a basic web host. Assuming this is just your personal page with not much traffic this should be <$10 per month. If you do this you can also run your own email server, so this doubly frees you up. Offer to host your friends as well.

    5.) If you don't want to do 4.) think about Protonmail as an alternative to gmail.

    6.) Don't ever use an app to access something on your phone that you could just access through the phone's web browser.

    7.) Try putting a few bucks into cryptocurrencies and making a few small transactions. I'm not saying put your life savings into it; I'm just saying learn how it works. Personally I think monero is better design than bitcoin but opinions vary.

    8.) If you heat your house with electric space heaters, get rid of those and instead heat the room by getting an old computer and putting it to work mining crypto. You still get the heat, but now you get some cryptocurrency too. Insofar as the value of crypto is its anonymity, it's best to mine the coins yourself instead of using an exchange.

    9.) Run linux instead of Microsoft Windows or Apple iOS. Linux mint is my favorite but Ubuntu is pretty solid as well.

    10.) Use LibreOffice instead of Microsoft office. In general always use open-source software unless it is just totally inadequate.

    11.) You can also get linux smartphones such as the PinePhone if you are really hardcore, and this avoids dealing with Apple and Google. Haven't used one so I can't really say much more.

    Replies: @Polynikes, @Chrisnonymous, @Almost Missouri

    1,2- I’m not very knowledgeable about tech, but I was reading a discussion forum with some real savvy privacy nerds. Aparently, simply using Tor is not very effective. You essentially create a profile of yourself when you go online based on things like your browser settings. This profile can be tracked even with Tor on, so anonymizers need to be used in conjunction with habits of disinformation. Everyone needs to read about this kind of stuff in greater detail.

    4- As Parler’s experience showed, this is not really adequate. You need to be more careful than your own website, and ultimately if banks stop working with you, you are SOL. The US really needs a “Free Speech Bank” first and then to build up from there with Free Speech payment processors, etc. There is a right wing payment processor who is trying to get going, as interviewed on Censored.TV. However, I don’t think that’s the right approach. We need things focused on freedom of speech, not right wing ghettos.

    6- Why?

    8- But what do you do in the summer? I was under the impression that the amount of cryptocurrency you could mine didn’t make up for what you pay keeping a computer going all the time.

    9- Linux is good for now. Unfortunately, the contributors seem increasingly woke. I think it would be possible to add censoring or doxxing features at the level of the OS. Is there another alternative?

    11- How much control does Google have over my phone if I run Android? How much do they know about me? And what’s going on with John McAfee’s privacy phone?

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    @Chrisnonymous

    Good points.

    I have the same understanding, mining crypto pretty much always uses more $ in electricity than it generates in returns, so as far as I can tell, it only makes sense if you have some unusually cheap source of electricity, or the (somewhat more common) situation where you are using electric heat anyway (of course, electrical resistance heat, not a heat pump.) Not that common anymore as most are on gas or a heat pump. But if you have electric baseboard, you can turn that off and just let the running computer heat up your room... Also, if you want truly anonymous crypto, it's the only possible way, so it might be worth paying the premium. Presumably you mine in the winter, save, and spend in the summer.

    Yeah a lot of good open source projects seem to be getting infected with the woke virus. Ugh... However if they get too dysfunctional you at least have the option of forking the code or using older versions. They don't have hard power the way large companies do.

    Re hosting websites, I was thinking more along the lines of hosting a personal website instead of a facebook page--more of a personal thing, not a business. Obviously that doesn't scale if you are trying to build a large business or service. For that we are going to need laws and legal victories. But, good to keep up the pressure along multiple dimensions.

    I'm generally against the appification of the web because it gives the people who control the app stores a lot more power than they would have otherwise, and the apps themselves have the potential to act as spyware. For example if Parler had been designed as a web site that ran fine on a mobile browser then Apple couldn't have pulled their app. But because we've normalized apps as an intermediate layer they didn't take that approach.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Chrisnonymous

    Great conversation and advice here.* Thanks, both of you. For, SS, regarding your first comment:

    - Even with protonmail, sign up for accounts at public computers for which ID was not required (some libraries - after all, the bums there don't have ID - when they re-open if ever, hotel lobbies, etc.). Again, this is if you are worried about the big picture - government AND big TECH ready to cancel you.

    - I agree on the heater. You explained it well in your 2nd comment. Generating more heat doing something useful can be at least neutral in cost, but, as you say, only if you were heating with electrical resistance based heaters to begin with. Heat pumps are much more efficient, and gas, well it depends on price, but it beats electric where I live.

    - I believe the obtaining of domain names and hosting is too much for most people. That's partly how facebook got so big, just the ability to quickly put up a collage of your life or whatever. How about a company with hosting in safe place, if any, with a quick website builder? Wordpress/blogspot do the latter, but they can/will shut you down on a whim, so they are no solution.

    .

    * I am sure the prepper sites have and have had much more of this kind of conversation. You'd have to make sure you are reading from some people who know their stuff, but much is common sense obtained from having a running "paranoia" about anonymity.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Chrisnonymous


    if banks stop working with you, you are SOL.
     
    Yes, and the Left knows this perfectly well, which is why they have concentrated so much effort on attacking you at the cash nexus: demonetizing, disemploying, deplatforming, and making you a financial pariah. Unlike the the postal service, telephone service, electrical utility, etc, who all have a legal duty to serve everyone equally, banks and the financial sector in general can persecute anyone for any reason so long as it is not a "protected class" reason (and they never tell you the reason anyway).

    The US really needs a “Free Speech Bank” first and then to build up from there with Free Speech payment processors, etc.
     
    The banking sector is relatively tightly controlled, and all of it is ultimately dependent on the Federal Reserve, so if the Fed decides you're a "domestic terrorist", which the Dems are in the midst of getting everyone to their right declared to be preemptively, you're done financially.

    There is a right wing payment processor who is trying to get going, as interviewed on Censored.TV. However, I don’t think that’s the right approach. We need things focused on freedom of speech, not right wing ghetto
     
    Freedom of speech depends on the ability to be able to finance that speech. It doesn't matter matter if that financing flows through a "right wing ghetto" or not, it just matters that it gets to its destination.

    If only we knew a right-leaning billionaire who had made a fortune starting a payment processor...

    How much control does Google have over my phone if I run Android?
     
    Total.

    How much do they know about me?
     
    Everything (that is on—or within hearing distance of—your phone.) Next question.

    Is Apple better?

    Reputationally slightly, but technically there is nothing stopping them from doing exactly the same as Google, and their CEO is a woke homo SJW, so obviously they would like to. So far their "luxury" branding and their more well-heeled customer base have made Apple warier of irritating their customers, but there have already been plenty of third-party hacks of Apple products and leaks of customer data. So no, you are not safe with Apple.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Chrisnonymous


    ...if banks stop working with you, you are SOL.
     
    Fed Rule Bars Banks From Targeting Gun Manufacturers: https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/fed-rule-bars-banks-from-targeting-gun-manufacturers/

    Looks like the Fed isn't woke. Yet.
  61. @Anonymous
    We know Big Tech isn’t ultimately behind this. They didn’t and couldn’t coordinate this well-timed de-platforming. It’s a total Deep State operation. The leaked Jack Dorsey video indicates that he was being directed to act.

    It was almost 8 years ago when whistleblower Edward Snowden spilled the beans on Deep State’s thorough co-opting of Big Tech and using it to spy on Americans. Since then it has now doubt gotten orders of magnitude more intimately intertwined and controlled by Deep State which has funneled CLASSIFIED amounts of government money into it.


    https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/silicon_valley_censorship.jpg

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @ziggurat, @anon, @Hypnotoad666, @Stan d Mute

    It’s hard to talk about the CIA/NSA/FBI being behind anything without sounding like a “conspiracy theorist.” OTOH, we know that there is a mutual aid relationship between MSM, Social Media, and the Deep State, and that all three are on a mission to destroy Trump and Trumpism.

    So why wouldn’t one assume they are working together on this project.

    BTW, when was the last time you heard the MSM say anything remotely skeptical, much less negative, about any of the three-letter agencies? They’ve been besties since 2008, at least.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Hypnotoad666

    Google network engineers were unhappy when they learned the NSA was tapping their lines to the point where they upgraded to encrypt the data traffic internally.

    It has probably not helped.

    https://www.pri.org/stories/2013-07-09/17-disturbing-things-snowden-has-taught-us-so-far


    PRISM is the NSA effort to collect massive amounts of data from internet companies such as email content, search histories and file transfers tied to potential terrorism or espionage suspects. The PowerPoint presentation confirmed that the NSA is able to directly access the servers of "major US service providers,” describing collaboration with tech companies like YouTube, Skype, Google and Apple. Google, Apple, and others in the tech industry, however, denied awareness of the program.

    PRISM began in 2007 with Microsoft and expanded to include Apple in 2012. To be subject to PRISM surveillance, there need only be “reasonable suspicion” that one of the suspects is outside the United States. Unlike the Verizon court-ordered collaboration, the government can access live information, photos, video chats and data from social networks directly through the companies’ servers without required consent or individual court orders. One slide puts the cost of the program at $20 million per year.
     
    It's been nearly 8 years since this hit and nothing has happened.

    Hopefully China has upgraded is information security.

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe

    , @Paul Jolliffe
    @Hypnotoad666

    No offense, but the MSM has been parroting the CIA line on most issues since the 1950’s.

    Operation Mockingbird was started before Steve Sailer was born:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

  62. @Anon
    @Mike Tre

    An overpaid public sector is the bane of city budgets, but deep down, I think anyone who works a job dealing everyday with godawful ghetto blacks deserves good pay, whether a cop or a teacher. It's a tough job, and very demoralizing trying to pound learning and lawful obedience into stupid, sociopathic blacks.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    ” It’s a tough job, and very demoralizing trying to pound learning and lawful obedience into stupid, sociopathic blacks. ”

    They can always quit and find a new job, less dangerous. But they don’t. They instead target normies and write citations for imaginary traffic crimes or simply hide out their entire shift watching porn in the squad car they take home with them. Think I’m kidding? I have 2 first cousins who are CPD officers who do exactly that. They certainly aren’t the only ones.

    • Replies: @Bartleby the Scrivner
    @Mike Tre

    Guess they can always code. And if you think coppers only write normies, you’ve never worked a tour.
    As for your cousins on the job, if they have a take home car they’re in a unit=heavy, or juiced up. Watching porn is part of their gig.

    But there’s something good that comes out of your comment. It confirms that a few goofs can be a true representation of s whole group. I guess all honkies are Nazis. Who knew?!

  63. @wren
    @SimpleSong

    One very bright guy has been thinking about this for a while and tweeted about a system that may evolve in the future where folks host their own sites on Musk's starlink satellites using crypto micropayments. Obviously we are a ways away from this, but recent events should accelerate the migration process.

    I can't find the tweets right now, but here are some similar blog posts.

    https://balajis.com/set-up-a-paid-newsletter-at-your-own-domain/

    https://balajis.com/how-to-gradually-exit-twitter/

    Replies: @Goatweed, @SimpleSong

    Will Musk have HQ in Budapest or Warsaw to avoid American jurisdiction?

    • Replies: @wren
    @Goatweed

    It's funny how many times those two cities' names have been mentioned in my household over the past few weeks...

  64. all we can say right now is, “We don’t know.” We don’t know if this is it, we don’t know if we’ll return

    I think this sentiment could be fairly expressed by tens of millions of legacy Americans right now. I am frankly amazed that peace has held as long as it has.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Stan d Mute

    It hasn’t.

  65. @216
    @Anonymous

    If the blog is offline, perhaps they have a stronger legal claim of "invasion of privacy"

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Maybe, maybe not. But Google does not case. It can afford to litigate and, worst case scenario, settle without admitting a guilt while screwing people to make examples for others. That’s what it’s all about.

  66. @Anonymous
    We know Big Tech isn’t ultimately behind this. They didn’t and couldn’t coordinate this well-timed de-platforming. It’s a total Deep State operation. The leaked Jack Dorsey video indicates that he was being directed to act.

    It was almost 8 years ago when whistleblower Edward Snowden spilled the beans on Deep State’s thorough co-opting of Big Tech and using it to spy on Americans. Since then it has now doubt gotten orders of magnitude more intimately intertwined and controlled by Deep State which has funneled CLASSIFIED amounts of government money into it.


    https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/silicon_valley_censorship.jpg

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @ziggurat, @anon, @Hypnotoad666, @Stan d Mute

    Wasn’t Garrison canceled?

  67. @216
    @Abolish_public_education

    Lol, lolbertarians run the DC Conservative Inc organizations.

    The base has been screaming for protectionism since Buchanan and Perot, but they kept foisting free trade on us.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory, @Stan d Mute, @Magic Dirt Resident

    The base has been screaming for protectionism since Buchanan and Perot, but they kept foisting free trade on us.

    Right, you morons beg for more government then act surprised when you get Anarcho-Tyranny.

    At some point, we do hope that you’ll figure it out.

  68. @AKAHorace
    @Clyde

    Also in the same issue of the New York Post:https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/wife-of-queens-proud-boy-arrested-in-capitol-plot-wants-a-divorce/

    Every crisis is an opportunity if you have the right mindset. From her GoFundme page:

    Wife ready to take a stand for America

    ($190 raised of $2,000,000 goal)


    I am petrified for my children and my life to speak out. But I am ready to take a stand with your support. The attack on the Capitol was a tragedy and is now the Trump legacy. I can't take this on while having to support 2 children. I will dedicate my life to this. I will be the first Trump voter to take that stand and admit we got this very wrong.

    I am divorcing him immediately!
    I am not a radical idiot like him and didn't really pay attention to Trump until election season. He really played us! And I am willing to admit I got this wrong!

    1. I will use the money to start a movement and sue Donald Trump for radicalizing some of his supporters. For ALL Americans left and right because families have been affected on both sides.

    2. To create a movement to sue parler for creating a platform to organize the worst crimes made by the worst domestic terrorists in America's history the "proud boys"

    2. I will use the money to give my children a better life while making this my life's mission, so that I don't fall to the poverty of a Radical Trump supporter like Eduard who made sure to always have financial control over me like Donald Trump. And to keep my babies safe during a very sensitive time.

    3. I will use some to divorce Eduard while working with the FBI as a witness in this case.

    Eduard made sure to use his privilege again in court when he suggested he should be let out on bail since he is the sole provider. I lost my job during this pandemic (huge bummer) and my babies are home from school. They are the best, sweetest, brightest, and innocent in this. You will be saving their life and countless others.

    We all have to heal together from the spoken and unspoken pain of the last four years.

    I am asking for every American to pitch in and help me to give my Olvia and Eduard the life they deserve away from this radical bully and to save all the children of America in what will become the Trump legacy. He must be held accountable for the radicalization of our nation and awakening the spirit of the past evils!

    I would also like to use the funds to start a movement for victims of domestic violence at the hands of radical Trump supporters so that they can finally take a stand and make it right with me.

    I am certain there are so many women just like me in America, who are so afraid to speak up because they lack financial support.

    I want to thank every American who gets behind this movement. This is without a doubt one of the most unspoken truths happening accross America and an opportunity for us all to help with a way forward. These men need to be held accountable.

    I am ready to take the hand of unity and never let go again. The biggest threat that stood in my way is out of my house and finally out of the white house. Thank you America for getting this right when some of us just couldn't.

    To the FBI thank you for showing me that my voice matters. I don't remember the last time I felt that.

    Anyone who wants to help put this movement together and get involved message me

    Any news agency that would like further comments can message me with name and news outlet.

    This story and page should trend as #forolivia

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @BenKenobi, @Achmed E. Newman, @ES

    Der ewige Frau

  69. @wren
    @SimpleSong

    One very bright guy has been thinking about this for a while and tweeted about a system that may evolve in the future where folks host their own sites on Musk's starlink satellites using crypto micropayments. Obviously we are a ways away from this, but recent events should accelerate the migration process.

    I can't find the tweets right now, but here are some similar blog posts.

    https://balajis.com/set-up-a-paid-newsletter-at-your-own-domain/

    https://balajis.com/how-to-gradually-exit-twitter/

    Replies: @Goatweed, @SimpleSong

    Yeah, I’m actually pretty excited about Starlink, if it pans out, because bad internet connectivity is one of the things keeping me from moving even further outside of the cities. I think a lot of others may be in the same boat.

    I’ve heard that, aside from Musk, there is a European and a Russian consortium all trying to get versions of this going, so it is pretty clearly technically possible at this point and seems like it really will happen.

    In fact if you could use an ISP that wasn’t even based in the US that would be even better.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @SimpleSong


    Yeah, I’m actually pretty excited about Starlink, if it pans out, because bad internet connectivity is one of the things keeping me from moving even further outside of the cities. I think a lot of others may be in the same boat.

     

    There already are some satellite internet providers, for instance ViaSat and EchoStar in the US, but lots of people have tried various grandiose schemes and gone bankrupt, like Motorola's Iridium or Microsoft's Teledesic back in the day. Or OneWeb, IntelSat and SpeedCast last year. However, if anyone can do it, I suppose it's Elon Musk.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_Internet_access

  70. @Reg Cæsar
    @AKAHorace


    You would need some statistical analysis to know if this is a serious problem or not.

     

    Are there more boats burning in the fjords?


    https://823883.smushcdn.com/1621945/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/viking-cremation-ashes-original-funeral.jpg?size=650x432&lossy=1&strip=1&webp=1

    Replies: @Clyde

    Last Season Vikings on Amazon–Watched it last week. Best watched in the summer to cool off in the fjords of Greenland where they last ventured out.

  71. @Chrisnonymous
    @SimpleSong

    1,2- I'm not very knowledgeable about tech, but I was reading a discussion forum with some real savvy privacy nerds. Aparently, simply using Tor is not very effective. You essentially create a profile of yourself when you go online based on things like your browser settings. This profile can be tracked even with Tor on, so anonymizers need to be used in conjunction with habits of disinformation. Everyone needs to read about this kind of stuff in greater detail.

    4- As Parler's experience showed, this is not really adequate. You need to be more careful than your own website, and ultimately if banks stop working with you, you are SOL. The US really needs a "Free Speech Bank" first and then to build up from there with Free Speech payment processors, etc. There is a right wing payment processor who is trying to get going, as interviewed on Censored.TV. However, I don't think that's the right approach. We need things focused on freedom of speech, not right wing ghettos.

    6- Why?

    8- But what do you do in the summer? I was under the impression that the amount of cryptocurrency you could mine didn't make up for what you pay keeping a computer going all the time.

    9- Linux is good for now. Unfortunately, the contributors seem increasingly woke. I think it would be possible to add censoring or doxxing features at the level of the OS. Is there another alternative?

    11- How much control does Google have over my phone if I run Android? How much do they know about me? And what's going on with John McAfee's privacy phone?

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @Achmed E. Newman, @Almost Missouri, @Jim Don Bob

    Good points.

    I have the same understanding, mining crypto pretty much always uses more $ in electricity than it generates in returns, so as far as I can tell, it only makes sense if you have some unusually cheap source of electricity, or the (somewhat more common) situation where you are using electric heat anyway (of course, electrical resistance heat, not a heat pump.) Not that common anymore as most are on gas or a heat pump. But if you have electric baseboard, you can turn that off and just let the running computer heat up your room… Also, if you want truly anonymous crypto, it’s the only possible way, so it might be worth paying the premium. Presumably you mine in the winter, save, and spend in the summer.

    Yeah a lot of good open source projects seem to be getting infected with the woke virus. Ugh… However if they get too dysfunctional you at least have the option of forking the code or using older versions. They don’t have hard power the way large companies do.

    Re hosting websites, I was thinking more along the lines of hosting a personal website instead of a facebook page–more of a personal thing, not a business. Obviously that doesn’t scale if you are trying to build a large business or service. For that we are going to need laws and legal victories. But, good to keep up the pressure along multiple dimensions.

    I’m generally against the appification of the web because it gives the people who control the app stores a lot more power than they would have otherwise, and the apps themselves have the potential to act as spyware. For example if Parler had been designed as a web site that ran fine on a mobile browser then Apple couldn’t have pulled their app. But because we’ve normalized apps as an intermediate layer they didn’t take that approach.

    • Thanks: Chrisnonymous
  72. @Chrisnonymous
    SlatrStarCodex's doxxing was just bad luck, based on the fact there were bad people at NYT. Second City Cop's doxxing was their own fault. It's stupid to maintain anything you want anonymous on a platform owned by a company whose employees hate you. Ditto that for Parler. They should have seen their vulnerabilities.

    I hope Ron Unz has thought through how his platform is hosted and disseminated.

    Replies: @Pericles, @James N. Kennett

    SlatrStarCodex’s doxxing was just bad luck, based on the fact there were bad people at NYT. Second City Cop’s doxxing was their own fault. It’s stupid to maintain anything you want anonymous on a platform owned by a company whose employees hate you.

    Bad argument. You could equally well claim nice polyamorated ultragenius Scott Alexander was stupid and it was his own fault for not staying away from controversy and not kissing the ass of the NYT enough.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Pericles

    You could equally well claim nice polyamorated ultragenius Scott Alexander was stupid and it was his own fault for not staying away from controversy and not kissing the ass of the NYT enough.

    FIFY.

    Never interact with the media. Not at all. Never. Treat them like the homeless, tweaking muggers with leprosy that they really, truly are.

  73. @Steve Sailer
    @AKAHorace

    The 56 year old doctor in Florida who was in excellent health who died after getting the vaccine was likely a death caused by the vaccine. It could have been something else, but it sure sounds like the vaccine killed him.

    But there have been about 12 million vaccinations in the US so far.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Pericles, @Bardon Kaldian, @alaska3636

    The name of that doctor? George Floyd.

  74. @anon
    @Anonymous

    That political cartoon has it wrong about Parler. There is a seemingly decent probability that Parler was a honey trap all along.

    wired link

    cybernews link


    1) they asked for pictures of photo id's--nobody does that, that is WEIRD!
    2) site was designed such that trivially easy to scrape literally every post ever made to the site, including private and deleted posts.
    3) photos and videos were not stripped of metadata-- thus giving precise lat/longitude coordinates.


    It's hard to put into words how insanely wrong and stupid these mistakes were. So stupid that it almost seems as if it were on purpose...

    Here you can see precise locations of where Parler videos were filmed

    Replies: @SimpleSong

    Yeah Parler seems a bit fishy to me…

    I’ve always assumed all of the ‘winning’ digital media companies had some help from the deep state, or after it became apparent they were going to gain a dominant market position the deep state paid them a visit to make sure there was an understanding…

    WeChat, Baidu, etc., are all pretty clearly entwined with the Chinese government, I can’t imagine our major social media companies aren’t just as entwined with our government.

  75. @SimpleSong
    @wren

    Yeah, I'm actually pretty excited about Starlink, if it pans out, because bad internet connectivity is one of the things keeping me from moving even further outside of the cities. I think a lot of others may be in the same boat.

    I've heard that, aside from Musk, there is a European and a Russian consortium all trying to get versions of this going, so it is pretty clearly technically possible at this point and seems like it really will happen.

    In fact if you could use an ISP that wasn't even based in the US that would be even better.

    Replies: @Pericles

    Yeah, I’m actually pretty excited about Starlink, if it pans out, because bad internet connectivity is one of the things keeping me from moving even further outside of the cities. I think a lot of others may be in the same boat.

    There already are some satellite internet providers, for instance ViaSat and EchoStar in the US, but lots of people have tried various grandiose schemes and gone bankrupt, like Motorola’s Iridium or Microsoft’s Teledesic back in the day. Or OneWeb, IntelSat and SpeedCast last year. However, if anyone can do it, I suppose it’s Elon Musk.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_Internet_access

  76. @AKAHorace
    @Clyde

    23 die in Norway after receiving Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine nypost.com › 2021/01/15 › 23-die-in-norway-after-rec…
    7 hours ago — Twenty-three people died in Norway within days of receiving their first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, with 13 of those deaths — all …


    Yes, but..

    All 13 were nursing home patients and at least 80 years old. While officials aren’t expressing serious concern, they are adjusting their guidance on who should receive the vaccine.

    “We are not alarmed by this,” Steinar Madsen, medical director with the agency, told Norwegian broadcaster NRK. “It is quite clear that these vaccines have very little risk, with a small exception for the frailest patients.”

    Health officials noted that around 400 people die each week in the nursing home population.

    You would need some statistical analysis to know if this is a serious problem or not.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar, @El Dato

    **”23″ is an absolute number**

    I laugh at people who wander around telling everyone “Are you afraid of COVID? HA! HA!” and deposit a big brown thing into their underpants when the vaccination is not 110% risk-free.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @El Dato

    I'm not afraid of Covid and I'm not afraid of the vaccine.

  77. @Goatweed
    @wren

    Will Musk have HQ in Budapest or Warsaw to avoid American jurisdiction?

    Replies: @wren

    It’s funny how many times those two cities’ names have been mentioned in my household over the past few weeks…

  78. Google and AWS attacking customers, are they now? Rifling through content? Doxxing employees of those customers?

    This should be the beginning of the “cloud shrinkback”.

    Eager beaver IT salespeople have been running around telling ass & donkey that “you don’t run infrastructure in-house”.

    Turns out that IT infrastructure is not at all like water or electricity infrastructure after all. Who would have thunk it.

    Plus, signing up with a US company triple exposes you to US judges wanting to obtain data, TLAs wanting to obtain data and being subject of a sudden “sanctions and asset freeze” decision by the treasury or whatever. Nope, Non!

    Also: DON’T USE “APPS”

    Minds next? Google sends ‘24 hour warning’ to free-speech ‘anti-Facebook’ platform, forces changes to app

    In a post on Friday evening, Bill Ottman said that Minds had received a “24 hour warning” from the Google Play store. This forced them to submit an updated version of the app, based on “interim solution and ninja developers,” which removed the search, discovery and comments functionality.

    Also: If Parler is a honeypot, it seems to have been created to advertise the fact that Pelosian Mob Socialism is here:

    Parler CEO Matze ‘goes into hiding over death threats,’ company says as it seeks to seal employee info in court battle with Amazon

    In a court filing on Friday, Parler, embroiled in a legal battle with Amazon over its move to abruptly terminate its relationship with the app, has asked for privacy protections for its employees, alleging that they have been exposed to abuse and a torrent of threats due to Amazon’s much-publicized accusations against the company.

  79. @Steve Sailer
    @AKAHorace

    The 56 year old doctor in Florida who was in excellent health who died after getting the vaccine was likely a death caused by the vaccine. It could have been something else, but it sure sounds like the vaccine killed him.

    But there have been about 12 million vaccinations in the US so far.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Pericles, @Bardon Kaldian, @alaska3636

    My two acquaintances got their first Pfizer anti-Covid shot a week ago, along with their 84 years old mother, when they transferred her to a nursing home. She was the first to get vaccinated.

    No side effects.

  80. @anon
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I’ve had a problem with inputting email info, much less my phone number

    Burner phones are inexpensive. New SIM cards even more so.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I’m familiar with these, #350. They will keep one’s information away from the googles, facebooks, and yahoos. Depending on how much you are worried (some would have said till a week ago “how deep your paranoia is”), it’s not enough to keep your identity away from the Deep State/NSA, were they interested. For that, you’d need to pay cash, hide your face enough for the facial recognition, etc…

    • Agree: Dissident
  81. @AKAHorace
    @Clyde

    Also in the same issue of the New York Post:https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/wife-of-queens-proud-boy-arrested-in-capitol-plot-wants-a-divorce/

    Every crisis is an opportunity if you have the right mindset. From her GoFundme page:

    Wife ready to take a stand for America

    ($190 raised of $2,000,000 goal)


    I am petrified for my children and my life to speak out. But I am ready to take a stand with your support. The attack on the Capitol was a tragedy and is now the Trump legacy. I can't take this on while having to support 2 children. I will dedicate my life to this. I will be the first Trump voter to take that stand and admit we got this very wrong.

    I am divorcing him immediately!
    I am not a radical idiot like him and didn't really pay attention to Trump until election season. He really played us! And I am willing to admit I got this wrong!

    1. I will use the money to start a movement and sue Donald Trump for radicalizing some of his supporters. For ALL Americans left and right because families have been affected on both sides.

    2. To create a movement to sue parler for creating a platform to organize the worst crimes made by the worst domestic terrorists in America's history the "proud boys"

    2. I will use the money to give my children a better life while making this my life's mission, so that I don't fall to the poverty of a Radical Trump supporter like Eduard who made sure to always have financial control over me like Donald Trump. And to keep my babies safe during a very sensitive time.

    3. I will use some to divorce Eduard while working with the FBI as a witness in this case.

    Eduard made sure to use his privilege again in court when he suggested he should be let out on bail since he is the sole provider. I lost my job during this pandemic (huge bummer) and my babies are home from school. They are the best, sweetest, brightest, and innocent in this. You will be saving their life and countless others.

    We all have to heal together from the spoken and unspoken pain of the last four years.

    I am asking for every American to pitch in and help me to give my Olvia and Eduard the life they deserve away from this radical bully and to save all the children of America in what will become the Trump legacy. He must be held accountable for the radicalization of our nation and awakening the spirit of the past evils!

    I would also like to use the funds to start a movement for victims of domestic violence at the hands of radical Trump supporters so that they can finally take a stand and make it right with me.

    I am certain there are so many women just like me in America, who are so afraid to speak up because they lack financial support.

    I want to thank every American who gets behind this movement. This is without a doubt one of the most unspoken truths happening accross America and an opportunity for us all to help with a way forward. These men need to be held accountable.

    I am ready to take the hand of unity and never let go again. The biggest threat that stood in my way is out of my house and finally out of the white house. Thank you America for getting this right when some of us just couldn't.

    To the FBI thank you for showing me that my voice matters. I don't remember the last time I felt that.

    Anyone who wants to help put this movement together and get involved message me

    Any news agency that would like further comments can message me with name and news outlet.

    This story and page should trend as #forolivia

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @BenKenobi, @Achmed E. Newman, @ES

    Great take on it, Horace. I read the NY Post article (first, because I wasn’t sure your writing wasn’t all direct from the article), and this explains very well why revolutions and such are more of a young and single man’s game.

    As for the guy’s 2,000 rounds of rifle ammunition, that’s just a decent stash, especially if he had .22 LR in there for a plinking/training rifle. 2,000 rounds of it would be less than 4 small cartons, each about the size of a pint milk carton. The news is big on reporting thousands of rounds of small caliber ammo.

    The thing that irks me the most about that story is the spelling of Edward with a “u”. Who the hell does that?

    • Replies: @AKAHorace
    @Achmed E. Newman


    The thing that irks me the most about that story is the spelling of Edward with a “u”. Who the hell does that?
     
    Forgivable if she is French or Latina. Irritating when Anglos do this. I suspect it goes with the rest of her attention seeking personality though.
    , @White Men Can’t Jump
    @Achmed E. Newman

    She also misspelled her own daughter's name as "Olvia."

    She's also an obsessive and opportunistic racist:

    "And last time he was being charged with domestic violence but with his fancy lawyer that charge was dismissed because well why not guess the white fancy judge was not in the mood to tell the white fancy lawyer to tell his white fancy client that he was being charged with 2 felonies instead of one."

    I hope she was really pretty, and/or great in the sack when her husband met her, because Lord knows she has made him suffer since then.

    Replies: @AKAHorace

  82. @Chrisnonymous
    @SimpleSong

    1,2- I'm not very knowledgeable about tech, but I was reading a discussion forum with some real savvy privacy nerds. Aparently, simply using Tor is not very effective. You essentially create a profile of yourself when you go online based on things like your browser settings. This profile can be tracked even with Tor on, so anonymizers need to be used in conjunction with habits of disinformation. Everyone needs to read about this kind of stuff in greater detail.

    4- As Parler's experience showed, this is not really adequate. You need to be more careful than your own website, and ultimately if banks stop working with you, you are SOL. The US really needs a "Free Speech Bank" first and then to build up from there with Free Speech payment processors, etc. There is a right wing payment processor who is trying to get going, as interviewed on Censored.TV. However, I don't think that's the right approach. We need things focused on freedom of speech, not right wing ghettos.

    6- Why?

    8- But what do you do in the summer? I was under the impression that the amount of cryptocurrency you could mine didn't make up for what you pay keeping a computer going all the time.

    9- Linux is good for now. Unfortunately, the contributors seem increasingly woke. I think it would be possible to add censoring or doxxing features at the level of the OS. Is there another alternative?

    11- How much control does Google have over my phone if I run Android? How much do they know about me? And what's going on with John McAfee's privacy phone?

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @Achmed E. Newman, @Almost Missouri, @Jim Don Bob

    Great conversation and advice here.* Thanks, both of you. For, SS, regarding your first comment:

    – Even with protonmail, sign up for accounts at public computers for which ID was not required (some libraries – after all, the bums there don’t have ID – when they re-open if ever, hotel lobbies, etc.). Again, this is if you are worried about the big picture – government AND big TECH ready to cancel you.

    – I agree on the heater. You explained it well in your 2nd comment. Generating more heat doing something useful can be at least neutral in cost, but, as you say, only if you were heating with electrical resistance based heaters to begin with. Heat pumps are much more efficient, and gas, well it depends on price, but it beats electric where I live.

    – I believe the obtaining of domain names and hosting is too much for most people. That’s partly how facebook got so big, just the ability to quickly put up a collage of your life or whatever. How about a company with hosting in safe place, if any, with a quick website builder? WordPress/blogspot do the latter, but they can/will shut you down on a whim, so they are no solution.

    .

    * I am sure the prepper sites have and have had much more of this kind of conversation. You’d have to make sure you are reading from some people who know their stuff, but much is common sense obtained from having a running “paranoia” about anonymity.

  83. @Achmed E. Newman
    @AKAHorace

    Great take on it, Horace. I read the NY Post article (first, because I wasn't sure your writing wasn't all direct from the article), and this explains very well why revolutions and such are more of a young and single man's game.

    As for the guy's 2,000 rounds of rifle ammunition, that's just a decent stash, especially if he had .22 LR in there for a plinking/training rifle. 2,000 rounds of it would be less than 4 small cartons, each about the size of a pint milk carton. The news is big on reporting thousands of rounds of small caliber ammo.

    The thing that irks me the most about that story is the spelling of Edward with a "u". Who the hell does that?

    Replies: @AKAHorace, @White Men Can’t Jump

    The thing that irks me the most about that story is the spelling of Edward with a “u”. Who the hell does that?

    Forgivable if she is French or Latina. Irritating when Anglos do this. I suspect it goes with the rest of her attention seeking personality though.

  84. >Complaining about McCarthy as communists silence you
    I bet he thinks antifa are “the real fascists”. The limited political vocabulary of Gen X and the younger Boomers is a major problem for any real attempt to organize in the US.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @gent

    Any pic of Pelosi using her gavel has two giant fasces on the wall behind her. The whole house of cards is built on historical ignorance so deep it’s not even wrong.

    Replies: @El Dato

    , @Magic Dirt Resident
    @gent

    They don't realize that on almost every single issue they accept the premises of the left. And then wonder why they can never win lol.

    Replies: @White Men Can’t Jump

    , @Hibernian
    @gent


    I bet he thinks antifa are “the real fascists”
     
    They are Stalinists.
  85. @SimpleSong
    @Chrisnonymous

    Along these lines, here are my opinions on best tech to use/stuff to know for Unz readers:

    1.) Browser: best choice is Brave. Made by an Unz commenter (seriously.)

    2.) Learn to use tor, a network tool that allows you to shield your identity when browsing. It's built in to Brave, so, not so hard. Also tor allows you to read the NYT for free.

    3.) Web search: Duck Duck Go is the best in my opinion, but anything that isn't Google is OK--fragmenting the market keeps the search engines honest.

    4.) Facebook and gmail--Consider just buying a domain name and getting a basic web host. Assuming this is just your personal page with not much traffic this should be <$10 per month. If you do this you can also run your own email server, so this doubly frees you up. Offer to host your friends as well.

    5.) If you don't want to do 4.) think about Protonmail as an alternative to gmail.

    6.) Don't ever use an app to access something on your phone that you could just access through the phone's web browser.

    7.) Try putting a few bucks into cryptocurrencies and making a few small transactions. I'm not saying put your life savings into it; I'm just saying learn how it works. Personally I think monero is better design than bitcoin but opinions vary.

    8.) If you heat your house with electric space heaters, get rid of those and instead heat the room by getting an old computer and putting it to work mining crypto. You still get the heat, but now you get some cryptocurrency too. Insofar as the value of crypto is its anonymity, it's best to mine the coins yourself instead of using an exchange.

    9.) Run linux instead of Microsoft Windows or Apple iOS. Linux mint is my favorite but Ubuntu is pretty solid as well.

    10.) Use LibreOffice instead of Microsoft office. In general always use open-source software unless it is just totally inadequate.

    11.) You can also get linux smartphones such as the PinePhone if you are really hardcore, and this avoids dealing with Apple and Google. Haven't used one so I can't really say much more.

    Replies: @Polynikes, @Chrisnonymous, @Almost Missouri

    1.) Browser: best choice is Brave.

    Vivaldi good too. And Gab’s Dissenter browser.

    2.) Learn to use tor

    Despite Snowden’s endorsement, something’s wrong with Tor lately. Sites on the far end can know your location. I don’t know if it is anything to do with “browser settings” as Chrisnonymous suggests, but somehow it’s gotten leaky in a way that even non-tech-lord sites have visibility through the tunnel.

    3.) Web search: Duck Duck Go is the best in my opinion, but anything that isn’t Google is OK–fragmenting the market keeps the search engines honest.

    Other good search engines to keep market fragmented and honest: Yippy, StartPage. There are others.

    5.) … think about Protonmail …

    There are others too, e.g., Tutanota. Note that most have significant limitations in the free versions.

    6.) Don’t ever use an app to access something on your phone that you could just access through the phone’s web browser.

    Agree. Apps are spyware. For some reason it is very hard to get people to understand this. Even if you are not using the app, once you have downloaded and installed it, many apps have invisible components that are running all the time in the background.

    7.) … monero is better design than bitcoin

    Agree.

    9.) Run linux instead of Microsoft Windows or Apple iOS.

    Agree, but note that all machines nowadays have hidden operating systems running underneath the OS you think you’re using.

    10.) … use open-source software unless it is just totally inadequate.

    Agree.

    11.) You can also get linux smartphones such as the PinePhone if you are really hardcore, and this avoids dealing with Apple and Google.

    Agree, but note that no matter what phone you have, you still have to deal with a carrier (AT&T, Verizon, etc). Carriers have been notable among the corporate wokarchy as the dogs who haven’t barked … yet. They are all converged by the NSA, so if the Three Letter Guys want to listen in, they will, but so far, I know of no cases of woke employees doxxing customers, leaking private data, or blocking you based on your viewpoint. Why not? Maybe because they come from the Common Carrier era that predated the insane perversion of Section 230 that has led to the woke impunity culture. Or maybe because you really have to be able to do something to work there, so mouthing wokitude isn’t enough. OTOH, these carriers are all pledging allegiance to BLM, diversity, etc., so it is probably just a matter of time before they become SiliValley-ized.

    The bottom line in security/anonymity is compartmentalization. Keep your crimethought identity and your real identity apart as much as possible: separate accounts, separate browsers, separate software, preferably separate hardware—preferably hardware that doesn’t advertise its location.*

    Obviously, if you have to pay for anything, this becomes problematic, as your crimethought identity probably doesn’t have any funds, so you have to connect your real identity or just try to operate gratis. You can justify paying for anonymity via VPN, for example, but understand the risks of what you are doing.

    ——

    *This is increasingly impossible if you access the internet, as the location of any wifi router or cell tower that you connect through is usually known with some precision.

    • Replies: @Too Long Didn't Read
    @Almost Missouri

    Agree. Apps are spyware. For some reason it is very hard to get people to understand this. Even if you are not using the app, once you have downloaded and installed it, many apps have invisible components that are running all the time in the background.

    Most people don't actually read Terms of Service for anything.
    Most people don't actually pay attention to the permissions they allow for Apps.

    Most people are idiots.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    , @Dissident
    @Almost Missouri


    something’s wrong with Tor lately. Sites on the far end can know your location. I don’t know if it is anything to do with “browser settings” as Chrisnonymous suggests, but somehow it’s gotten leaky in a way that even non-tech-lord sites have visibility through the tunnel.
     
    Interesting. Are you using the official Tor Browser from the Tor Project? (Or within Tails)
    And did you properly verify the authenticity of your download?

    https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018121491


    Note that Private Windows with Tor Connectivity in Brave are just regular private windows that use Tor as a proxy. Brave does NOT implement most of the privacy protections from Tor Browser.
    [...]
    If your personal safety depends on remaining anonymous, we highly recommend using Tor Browser instead of Brave Tor windows.
    [...]
    Learn about known leaks in Tor when using Brave

     

    Note that even when used fully as advised, Tor has limitations, and is certainly not foolproof. The Tor Project itself acknowledges this-- but rather buried within the fine print. At the most conspicuous parts of the site, claims and statements are displayed that are rather ambitious and even, arguably, misleading.

    Simply using any tool, whether Tor, Tails, a VPN, or anything else, without proper awareness of its limitations, is likely to provide a false sense of security that can make one more vulnerable rather than less.

    Every individual needs to determine his threat model and learn what is and what is not realistic. Security and privacy will always be in conflict with convenience, usability and functionality. The more one has of one (i.e., any of the former), the less one will have of the other (i.e., any of the latter).


    They are all converged by the NSA, so if the Three Letter Guys want to listen in, they will,
     
    If the TLAs (Three Letter Agencies)/ "spooks" want you badly enough, they'll get you. It's only a matter of time.

    Keep your crimethought identity and your real identity apart as much as possible: separate accounts, separate browsers, separate software, preferably separate hardware—preferably hardware that doesn’t advertise its location.*
     
    That is generally quite difficult for most people to consistently sustain. And it only takes one slip-up-- which is all-too-easy-- to dox oneself. Another strong risk factor, one overlooked by many, is how much of a fingerprint one's particular writing style can leave.

    Obviously, if you have to pay for anything, this becomes problematic, as your crimethought identity probably doesn’t have any funds, so you have to connect your real identity or just try to operate gratis.
     
    True, but on the other hand, as the much-repeated adage goes, If you're not paying for the product (or service), then you are the product.. Whether it's email, hosting, a VPN, etc., all of these services cost money, time and effort to provide. (To say nothing of opening one up to potential liability.) It is extremely rare and unlikely for anyone to bear such costs on behalf of others merely out of altruistic motivations. There's no free lunch. (TNFL)

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  86. @Dnought
    @Chrisnonymous

    Been doing all those things forever. Never signed up for Facebook or Twitter. Don't have a Google account, let alone Gmail. Still use a flip phone. I bought something from Amazon once (never again). It is incredibly easy to live this way....easier than most people can even imagine. No, I'm not a Luddite, or "totally off the grid" by any means, but I saw where this was going more than twenty years ago. Snowden was only further confirmation of what I already long knew. If every realist (millions and millions) would do these things, the world would change-hard and fast.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    Well, I think they are all easy to give up except Amazon. As brick and mortar disappears, I use Amazon more and more because it has stuff I can’t find elsewhere. I resisted having any cellphone at all for years, but ironically, I bought a Google phone in December. I live in Japan, and it is getting more and more difficukt–almost impossible–to live without a phone. They are assumed now, snd if you try to do things like sign up services without one, you may be refused or find it logistically impossible. The US will be like this soon. The obvious place we are heading is having a device that you need to have with you to board trains, start automobiles, make purchases, etc. It will track you, and TPTB will be able to shut down your ability to live in real time. “I just clicked a link on UR, and now I can’t use my credit card.”

  87. @Bartleby the Scrivner
    @Mike Tre

    The reason they are so enamored with their pensions could be because they put 9% of their pay into it each paycheck. Kinda like wanting to get what they pay for. The teachers union doesn’t pay anything into theirs I think. Fact check me.
    People who contribute to SS want their benefits when due. Police want their own investment back as well.

    Replies: @Cortes, @Mike Tre, @Cletus, @Abolish_public_education

    As of a few years ago, the teachers themselves put in 2% and the “school district” paid the other 7%.

    I’m being a jerk with the scare quotes, but I hated being told that since it was me and other taxpayers making that contribution, not the meanies at CPS.

    • Replies: @Bartleby the Scrivner
    @Cletus

    I stand corrected.

  88. Anonymous[419] • Disclaimer says:

    And this one – on the heels of Big Tech’s wholesale attack on the President, Parler and center-right to right-leaning authors, politicians and voices – pointed to a countdown that had far less time than we had thought. Most likely, far less time than you think, too.

    What does this mean? What kind of “countdown”?

  89. @Stan d Mute

    all we can say right now is, “We don’t know.” We don’t know if this is it, we don’t know if we’ll return
     
    I think this sentiment could be fairly expressed by tens of millions of legacy Americans right now. I am frankly amazed that peace has held as long as it has.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    It hasn’t.

  90. @gent
    >Complaining about McCarthy as communists silence you
    I bet he thinks antifa are "the real fascists". The limited political vocabulary of Gen X and the younger Boomers is a major problem for any real attempt to organize in the US.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Magic Dirt Resident, @Hibernian

    Any pic of Pelosi using her gavel has two giant fasces on the wall behind her. The whole house of cards is built on historical ignorance so deep it’s not even wrong.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Desiderius

    But these are the GOOD fasces!

  91. @Chrisnonymous
    @SimpleSong

    1,2- I'm not very knowledgeable about tech, but I was reading a discussion forum with some real savvy privacy nerds. Aparently, simply using Tor is not very effective. You essentially create a profile of yourself when you go online based on things like your browser settings. This profile can be tracked even with Tor on, so anonymizers need to be used in conjunction with habits of disinformation. Everyone needs to read about this kind of stuff in greater detail.

    4- As Parler's experience showed, this is not really adequate. You need to be more careful than your own website, and ultimately if banks stop working with you, you are SOL. The US really needs a "Free Speech Bank" first and then to build up from there with Free Speech payment processors, etc. There is a right wing payment processor who is trying to get going, as interviewed on Censored.TV. However, I don't think that's the right approach. We need things focused on freedom of speech, not right wing ghettos.

    6- Why?

    8- But what do you do in the summer? I was under the impression that the amount of cryptocurrency you could mine didn't make up for what you pay keeping a computer going all the time.

    9- Linux is good for now. Unfortunately, the contributors seem increasingly woke. I think it would be possible to add censoring or doxxing features at the level of the OS. Is there another alternative?

    11- How much control does Google have over my phone if I run Android? How much do they know about me? And what's going on with John McAfee's privacy phone?

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @Achmed E. Newman, @Almost Missouri, @Jim Don Bob

    if banks stop working with you, you are SOL.

    Yes, and the Left knows this perfectly well, which is why they have concentrated so much effort on attacking you at the cash nexus: demonetizing, disemploying, deplatforming, and making you a financial pariah. Unlike the the postal service, telephone service, electrical utility, etc, who all have a legal duty to serve everyone equally, banks and the financial sector in general can persecute anyone for any reason so long as it is not a “protected class” reason (and they never tell you the reason anyway).

    The US really needs a “Free Speech Bank” first and then to build up from there with Free Speech payment processors, etc.

    The banking sector is relatively tightly controlled, and all of it is ultimately dependent on the Federal Reserve, so if the Fed decides you’re a “domestic terrorist”, which the Dems are in the midst of getting everyone to their right declared to be preemptively, you’re done financially.

    There is a right wing payment processor who is trying to get going, as interviewed on Censored.TV. However, I don’t think that’s the right approach. We need things focused on freedom of speech, not right wing ghetto

    Freedom of speech depends on the ability to be able to finance that speech. It doesn’t matter matter if that financing flows through a “right wing ghetto” or not, it just matters that it gets to its destination.

    If only we knew a right-leaning billionaire who had made a fortune starting a payment processor…

    How much control does Google have over my phone if I run Android?

    Total.

    How much do they know about me?

    Everything (that is on—or within hearing distance of—your phone.) Next question.

    Is Apple better?

    Reputationally slightly, but technically there is nothing stopping them from doing exactly the same as Google, and their CEO is a woke homo SJW, so obviously they would like to. So far their “luxury” branding and their more well-heeled customer base have made Apple warier of irritating their customers, but there have already been plenty of third-party hacks of Apple products and leaks of customer data. So no, you are not safe with Apple.

  92. Slate City Cop? Having Scott Alexander ride a beat with the CPD would be perfect, fits right in with the call to replace or pair cops with psychiatric social workers. A little Rationalist Effective Altruism and the murder rate plummets!

  93. @Marty
    @Cortes

    Speaking of radio silence, this morning at 10:40 a.m. Pacific the Limbaugh broadcast went silent for 14 minutes on KSFO. A caller with a blue-collar NY accent was explaining his activities at the Supreme Court bldg. on 1/6 when ..... Could just be cash-starved Cumulus bumbling, I guess.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    No one tells Limbaugh what to do with his own network but the various other talk hosts have reportedly gotten the word from corporate: drop any mention of “stolen elections,” distance yourself from the “angry mob.” Once Limbaugh is unable to continue, the conservative talk radio format overall will be under pressure to stick to an even blander RINO agenda.

    I think I heard the caller you mentioned; his rambling point was that everything he saw (at the back end of the building) was peaceful but it did seem to him that there were a few young provocateurs at various spots.

  94. @Desiderius
    @gent

    Any pic of Pelosi using her gavel has two giant fasces on the wall behind her. The whole house of cards is built on historical ignorance so deep it’s not even wrong.

    Replies: @El Dato

    But these are the GOOD fasces!

  95. @Hypnotoad666
    @Anonymous

    It's hard to talk about the CIA/NSA/FBI being behind anything without sounding like a "conspiracy theorist." OTOH, we know that there is a mutual aid relationship between MSM, Social Media, and the Deep State, and that all three are on a mission to destroy Trump and Trumpism.

    So why wouldn't one assume they are working together on this project.

    BTW, when was the last time you heard the MSM say anything remotely skeptical, much less negative, about any of the three-letter agencies? They've been besties since 2008, at least.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Paul Jolliffe

    Google network engineers were unhappy when they learned the NSA was tapping their lines to the point where they upgraded to encrypt the data traffic internally.

    It has probably not helped.

    https://www.pri.org/stories/2013-07-09/17-disturbing-things-snowden-has-taught-us-so-far

    PRISM is the NSA effort to collect massive amounts of data from internet companies such as email content, search histories and file transfers tied to potential terrorism or espionage suspects. The PowerPoint presentation confirmed that the NSA is able to directly access the servers of “major US service providers,” describing collaboration with tech companies like YouTube, Skype, Google and Apple. Google, Apple, and others in the tech industry, however, denied awareness of the program.

    PRISM began in 2007 with Microsoft and expanded to include Apple in 2012. To be subject to PRISM surveillance, there need only be “reasonable suspicion” that one of the suspects is outside the United States. Unlike the Verizon court-ordered collaboration, the government can access live information, photos, video chats and data from social networks directly through the companies’ servers without required consent or individual court orders. One slide puts the cost of the program at $20 million per year.

    It’s been nearly 8 years since this hit and nothing has happened.

    Hopefully China has upgraded is information security.

    • Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
    @El Dato

    Five years ago, Hollywood made a Jason Bourne movie about CIA control of social media.

    Does the Deep State influence American public opinion by manipulating social media and the MSM?

    Duh . . .

    https://youtu.be/QpINXa7oV0Q

  96. @Chrisnonymous
    @SimpleSong

    1,2- I'm not very knowledgeable about tech, but I was reading a discussion forum with some real savvy privacy nerds. Aparently, simply using Tor is not very effective. You essentially create a profile of yourself when you go online based on things like your browser settings. This profile can be tracked even with Tor on, so anonymizers need to be used in conjunction with habits of disinformation. Everyone needs to read about this kind of stuff in greater detail.

    4- As Parler's experience showed, this is not really adequate. You need to be more careful than your own website, and ultimately if banks stop working with you, you are SOL. The US really needs a "Free Speech Bank" first and then to build up from there with Free Speech payment processors, etc. There is a right wing payment processor who is trying to get going, as interviewed on Censored.TV. However, I don't think that's the right approach. We need things focused on freedom of speech, not right wing ghettos.

    6- Why?

    8- But what do you do in the summer? I was under the impression that the amount of cryptocurrency you could mine didn't make up for what you pay keeping a computer going all the time.

    9- Linux is good for now. Unfortunately, the contributors seem increasingly woke. I think it would be possible to add censoring or doxxing features at the level of the OS. Is there another alternative?

    11- How much control does Google have over my phone if I run Android? How much do they know about me? And what's going on with John McAfee's privacy phone?

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @Achmed E. Newman, @Almost Missouri, @Jim Don Bob

    …if banks stop working with you, you are SOL.

    Fed Rule Bars Banks From Targeting Gun Manufacturers: https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/fed-rule-bars-banks-from-targeting-gun-manufacturers/

    Looks like the Fed isn’t woke. Yet.

  97. @Steve Sailer
    @AKAHorace

    The 56 year old doctor in Florida who was in excellent health who died after getting the vaccine was likely a death caused by the vaccine. It could have been something else, but it sure sounds like the vaccine killed him.

    But there have been about 12 million vaccinations in the US so far.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Pericles, @Bardon Kaldian, @alaska3636

    My wife received both doses of the Pfizer vaccine. Pain in the arm and general achiness for a day.

    Like most vaccines, most people will be fine and a tiny percentage will have a bad reaction. Vaccines are 99% safe like Covid. That argument cuts both ways ironically.

  98. @216
    @Abolish_public_education

    Lol, lolbertarians run the DC Conservative Inc organizations.

    The base has been screaming for protectionism since Buchanan and Perot, but they kept foisting free trade on us.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory, @Stan d Mute, @Magic Dirt Resident

    The base doesn’t know what it wants. They were free trade Friedmanites under Reagan, protectionist with Buchanan and Perot, then became blood thirsty deep state worshipping war hawks under Bush before deciding that peace is actually good and Assange is a hero under Trump. They’ve been strung along like rubes for decades. The ignorance of the average Republican voter is why the right wing has been an unmitigated failure in American politics. And the worst part is most of them STILL haven’t figured out that they are being conned and grifted. Maybe that will change in the aftermath of Trump but as of now there’s no reason to expect the base to articulate and fight for its own interests.

    • Replies: @216
    @Magic Dirt Resident

    It's the problem of the Swine Right.

    The left has a monopoly on respectable intellectual positions.

    Steve Sailer, MBA, Blogger

    has less power than

    Steve Sailer, Ph.D. Harvard, Distinguished Professor, Director of the HBD Institute

    Conservative institutions are often run by closet liberals, and the rest of the people aren't competent at their positions.

    Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)

    , @fish
    @Magic Dirt Resident

    I would have preferred to click “agree” but the site wouldn’t let me.


    AGREE

  99. @gent
    >Complaining about McCarthy as communists silence you
    I bet he thinks antifa are "the real fascists". The limited political vocabulary of Gen X and the younger Boomers is a major problem for any real attempt to organize in the US.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Magic Dirt Resident, @Hibernian

    They don’t realize that on almost every single issue they accept the premises of the left. And then wonder why they can never win lol.

    • Agree: 3g4me
    • Replies: @White Men Can’t Jump
    @Magic Dirt Resident

    That was the beauty, in part, of the late Larry Auster, may he rest in peace. He pointed out that self-styled conservatives were virtually all liberals. That hadn't previously occurred to me.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

  100. @AKAHorace
    @Clyde

    Also in the same issue of the New York Post:https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/wife-of-queens-proud-boy-arrested-in-capitol-plot-wants-a-divorce/

    Every crisis is an opportunity if you have the right mindset. From her GoFundme page:

    Wife ready to take a stand for America

    ($190 raised of $2,000,000 goal)


    I am petrified for my children and my life to speak out. But I am ready to take a stand with your support. The attack on the Capitol was a tragedy and is now the Trump legacy. I can't take this on while having to support 2 children. I will dedicate my life to this. I will be the first Trump voter to take that stand and admit we got this very wrong.

    I am divorcing him immediately!
    I am not a radical idiot like him and didn't really pay attention to Trump until election season. He really played us! And I am willing to admit I got this wrong!

    1. I will use the money to start a movement and sue Donald Trump for radicalizing some of his supporters. For ALL Americans left and right because families have been affected on both sides.

    2. To create a movement to sue parler for creating a platform to organize the worst crimes made by the worst domestic terrorists in America's history the "proud boys"

    2. I will use the money to give my children a better life while making this my life's mission, so that I don't fall to the poverty of a Radical Trump supporter like Eduard who made sure to always have financial control over me like Donald Trump. And to keep my babies safe during a very sensitive time.

    3. I will use some to divorce Eduard while working with the FBI as a witness in this case.

    Eduard made sure to use his privilege again in court when he suggested he should be let out on bail since he is the sole provider. I lost my job during this pandemic (huge bummer) and my babies are home from school. They are the best, sweetest, brightest, and innocent in this. You will be saving their life and countless others.

    We all have to heal together from the spoken and unspoken pain of the last four years.

    I am asking for every American to pitch in and help me to give my Olvia and Eduard the life they deserve away from this radical bully and to save all the children of America in what will become the Trump legacy. He must be held accountable for the radicalization of our nation and awakening the spirit of the past evils!

    I would also like to use the funds to start a movement for victims of domestic violence at the hands of radical Trump supporters so that they can finally take a stand and make it right with me.

    I am certain there are so many women just like me in America, who are so afraid to speak up because they lack financial support.

    I want to thank every American who gets behind this movement. This is without a doubt one of the most unspoken truths happening accross America and an opportunity for us all to help with a way forward. These men need to be held accountable.

    I am ready to take the hand of unity and never let go again. The biggest threat that stood in my way is out of my house and finally out of the white house. Thank you America for getting this right when some of us just couldn't.

    To the FBI thank you for showing me that my voice matters. I don't remember the last time I felt that.

    Anyone who wants to help put this movement together and get involved message me

    Any news agency that would like further comments can message me with name and news outlet.

    This story and page should trend as #forolivia

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @BenKenobi, @Achmed E. Newman, @ES

    But I am ready to take a stand with your support.

    I am divorcing him immediately!

    I got a feeling the guy will find prison more amenable than life with that woman.

    Stand by Your Man

  101. anon[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pericles
    @Chrisnonymous


    SlatrStarCodex’s doxxing was just bad luck, based on the fact there were bad people at NYT. Second City Cop’s doxxing was their own fault. It’s stupid to maintain anything you want anonymous on a platform owned by a company whose employees hate you.

     

    Bad argument. You could equally well claim nice polyamorated ultragenius Scott Alexander was stupid and it was his own fault for not staying away from controversy and not kissing the ass of the NYT enough.

    Replies: @anon

    You could equally well claim nice polyamorated ultragenius Scott Alexander was stupid and it was his own fault for not staying away from controversy and not kissing the ass of the NYT enough.

    FIFY.

    Never interact with the media. Not at all. Never. Treat them like the homeless, tweaking muggers with leprosy that they really, truly are.

  102. @Almost Missouri
    @SimpleSong


    1.) Browser: best choice is Brave.
     
    Vivaldi good too. And Gab's Dissenter browser.

    2.) Learn to use tor
     
    Despite Snowden's endorsement, something's wrong with Tor lately. Sites on the far end can know your location. I don't know if it is anything to do with "browser settings" as Chrisnonymous suggests, but somehow it's gotten leaky in a way that even non-tech-lord sites have visibility through the tunnel.

    3.) Web search: Duck Duck Go is the best in my opinion, but anything that isn’t Google is OK–fragmenting the market keeps the search engines honest.
     
    Other good search engines to keep market fragmented and honest: Yippy, StartPage. There are others.

    5.) ... think about Protonmail ...
     
    There are others too, e.g., Tutanota. Note that most have significant limitations in the free versions.

    6.) Don't ever use an app to access something on your phone that you could just access through the phone's web browser.
     
    Agree. Apps are spyware. For some reason it is very hard to get people to understand this. Even if you are not using the app, once you have downloaded and installed it, many apps have invisible components that are running all the time in the background.

    7.) ... monero is better design than bitcoin
     
    Agree.

    9.) Run linux instead of Microsoft Windows or Apple iOS.
     
    Agree, but note that all machines nowadays have hidden operating systems running underneath the OS you think you're using.

    10.) ... use open-source software unless it is just totally inadequate.
     
    Agree.

    11.) You can also get linux smartphones such as the PinePhone if you are really hardcore, and this avoids dealing with Apple and Google.
     
    Agree, but note that no matter what phone you have, you still have to deal with a carrier (AT&T, Verizon, etc). Carriers have been notable among the corporate wokarchy as the dogs who haven't barked ... yet. They are all converged by the NSA, so if the Three Letter Guys want to listen in, they will, but so far, I know of no cases of woke employees doxxing customers, leaking private data, or blocking you based on your viewpoint. Why not? Maybe because they come from the Common Carrier era that predated the insane perversion of Section 230 that has led to the woke impunity culture. Or maybe because you really have to be able to do something to work there, so mouthing wokitude isn't enough. OTOH, these carriers are all pledging allegiance to BLM, diversity, etc., so it is probably just a matter of time before they become SiliValley-ized.

    The bottom line in security/anonymity is compartmentalization. Keep your crimethought identity and your real identity apart as much as possible: separate accounts, separate browsers, separate software, preferably separate hardware—preferably hardware that doesn't advertise its location.*

    Obviously, if you have to pay for anything, this becomes problematic, as your crimethought identity probably doesn't have any funds, so you have to connect your real identity or just try to operate gratis. You can justify paying for anonymity via VPN, for example, but understand the risks of what you are doing.

    ------

    *This is increasingly impossible if you access the internet, as the location of any wifi router or cell tower that you connect through is usually known with some precision.

    Replies: @Too Long Didn't Read, @Dissident

    Agree. Apps are spyware. For some reason it is very hard to get people to understand this. Even if you are not using the app, once you have downloaded and installed it, many apps have invisible components that are running all the time in the background.

    Most people don’t actually read Terms of Service for anything.
    Most people don’t actually pay attention to the permissions they allow for Apps.

    Most people are idiots.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Too Long Didn't Read


    Apps are spyware.
     
    Absolutely. I downloaded an app from my bank and during the install it asked for permission to access, among other things, my contacts. Why the hell does a banking app need to access my contacts? I cancelled the install.
  103. The difference between the center-right and hbd-ers is that we are right. Population differences are not caused by soft environmental differences in the course of a generation. Population differences are caused by natural selection over dozens or hundreds of generations. There is no way that Big Tech can keep the lid on a majority non-white America for long enough for selection to work its magic. They won’t even exploit selection to change populations, because that is eugenics.

    They can’t cancel everyone who intuitively ‘gets’ hbd. Virtually everyone behaves as if they know blacks’ personality distributions are different. There are too many of us. After a decade or two of only very good liars and true believers climbing in society, the pro-man class will not function very well.

    The progressives cannot do very well with real-life integration. Diverse cultures living together rubs people the wrong way. Look at how upset whites make integrated blacks. The ‘Karen’ membe likely did not start in the underclass. Look at all the complaints about whites from integrated AA blacks in the upper-middle class and above. Imagine if everyone were that unhappy. With significant integration, they would be.

    The progressives can’t push hard for integrating blacks, because the black crime rate is so high. Cities will become unlivable if they defund the police. Keeping a lid on a pressure cooker does really make the contents more stable. It just raises the pressure. Things will get so bad, so fast, that people will organize in real life, where Big Tech is much more constrained.

    If Big Tech really tries pushing integration, hbd-er(s) goal(s) should be to make the burden be felt up the social scale. To a large extent, the progressives will do this to themselves. Look at the Dalton school planning on taking huge numbers of slum kids.

    They can cancel us. They can make our communication difficult, but that will only move things to the real world, where actual things happen. They cannot cancel reality.

    I think Steve has said that one generations’ unmentionable facts become the next generation’s unknown facts. That is what is happening here.

    • Replies: @White Men Can’t Jump
    @Rob

    "the pro-man class"?

    There's a lot of good thought in your comment; however, your conclusion seems to contradict it. You argued that everyone will become acquainted with the black behavior that makes integration intolerable, only to then non sequitur that these behaviors ("facts") will go from being "unmentionable" to "unknown."

    Replies: @Rob

  104. BTW, for people who miss SSC, a bunch of us who were commenters there made a new forum:

    https://www.datasecretslox.com/

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @Anonymous

    Thank you.

  105. @Chrisnonymous
    SlatrStarCodex's doxxing was just bad luck, based on the fact there were bad people at NYT. Second City Cop's doxxing was their own fault. It's stupid to maintain anything you want anonymous on a platform owned by a company whose employees hate you. Ditto that for Parler. They should have seen their vulnerabilities.

    I hope Ron Unz has thought through how his platform is hosted and disseminated.

    Replies: @Pericles, @James N. Kennett

    It’s stupid to maintain anything you want anonymous on a platform owned by a company whose employees hate you.

    When SCC started, Google was an idealistic tech company whose motto was “Don’t Be Evil”. They probably seemed the ideal host for an anonymous blog whose content would sometimes annoy Chicago Machine politicians.

  106. reminder that blogspot hosts a blog for a LITERAL CHILD RAPIST & SERIAL KILLER Joeseph Duncan. He runs it from his prison cell. Dude literally writes in detail about his torture & rape of children. People are unsure weather he actually regrets it. Thankfully he is on death row.

    https://5nconfessions.blogspot.com/?m=1

    blogspot meanwhile cares more about a cop.

  107. @Too Long Didn't Read
    @Almost Missouri

    Agree. Apps are spyware. For some reason it is very hard to get people to understand this. Even if you are not using the app, once you have downloaded and installed it, many apps have invisible components that are running all the time in the background.

    Most people don't actually read Terms of Service for anything.
    Most people don't actually pay attention to the permissions they allow for Apps.

    Most people are idiots.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Apps are spyware.

    Absolutely. I downloaded an app from my bank and during the install it asked for permission to access, among other things, my contacts. Why the hell does a banking app need to access my contacts? I cancelled the install.

  108. There have been numerous other blogs/fora deplatformed prior to this, but they’ve been the home of evil notsees or wignats, not ‘respectable’ little hbders like Sailer’s commentariat, so none of the respondents were bothered until now. After all, those here are merely believers in genetics, not evil rayciss haters. Yes, plenty of them joke about the thought police, but they don’t really fear the knock on the door. Those who’ve already had that knock can tell all the larpers here would shiver in their boots were it truly happen.

  109. @Prof. Woland
    I grew up in the silicon valley and it used to be a very libertarian place. Also very lily white. Things such as religion in politics was frowned upon, but privacy, smoking pot, sexual liberation, and the ability to do your own thing as long as it did not harm others was the ethos. Low taxes and entrepreneurship was respected. Now it is much more immigration-identity politics Democratic machine where everyone is paranoid.

    There are many people living there now who hate the reigning overlords and are quite happy to take them down. 30% of Californians voted for Trump. That means 3 out of 10 voting adults. And it is not just white men. There are many Chinese, Iranians, Russian-Jews, etc. that absolutely hate Biden. They have potentially become "stay behinds" or partisans in enemy occupied territory that when given the opportunity are happy to take their pound of flesh.

    James O'Keeffe is now more of a Julian Assange. He used to dress up himself in pimp costumes and then try to pull stunts. Now he just advertises himself and people come to him with information. This obsession that Obama had about outing reporters and their sources will come back with a vengeance as the Democrats go about looting the government again. The problem for the black hats is that it is becoming harder and harder to hide things. Pulling a 'chemical attack in Syria' or sleezy Hunter Biden Ukraine bribes is now basically impossible without the help of big tech. Trump had a relatively clean government because he was in a fishbowl. Had he grifted for himself and his family he would have immediately stepped on a land mine so he behaved. The left is on borrowed time.

    Replies: @Forbes

    The left is on borrowed Miller time.

    The Left will be steroid city–Hunter Biden’s antics are amateur hour, compared to what they’ll be getting up to now. Who’s gonna stop them?? Who’s gonna “out” them?? Biden is the Left’s hero for taking out Trump. The grift and graft will be legion. Trickle-down government spending here we come!

  110. @El Dato
    @AKAHorace

    **"23" is an absolute number**

    I laugh at people who wander around telling everyone "Are you afraid of COVID? HA! HA!" and deposit a big brown thing into their underpants when the vaccination is not 110% risk-free.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I’m not afraid of Covid and I’m not afraid of the vaccine.

  111. @gent
    >Complaining about McCarthy as communists silence you
    I bet he thinks antifa are "the real fascists". The limited political vocabulary of Gen X and the younger Boomers is a major problem for any real attempt to organize in the US.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Magic Dirt Resident, @Hibernian

    I bet he thinks antifa are “the real fascists”

    They are Stalinists.

  112. @Bartleby the Scrivner
    @Mike Tre

    The reason they are so enamored with their pensions could be because they put 9% of their pay into it each paycheck. Kinda like wanting to get what they pay for. The teachers union doesn’t pay anything into theirs I think. Fact check me.
    People who contribute to SS want their benefits when due. Police want their own investment back as well.

    Replies: @Cortes, @Mike Tre, @Cletus, @Abolish_public_education

    Cops, FFs, schoolteachers, etc. do not make pension contributions.

    Public pensions are funded by taxes.

    Only private sector types pay taxes.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Abolish_public_education

    This may be true for some types of jobs in some jurisdictions, but it is not universally true, and I doubt that it is even generally true. Whether the contributions, when there are contributions, fully fund the pensions, is another story. Usually they don't.

    , @Curle
    @Abolish_public_education

    There is an compensation package and often it includes a portion that is set aside for pensions and sometimes other benefits. So yes, it is monies obligated to them in exchange for services. That the obligation is paid out of taxes collected is irrelevant to determining the nature of the obligation.

  113. @Achmed E. Newman
    @AKAHorace

    Great take on it, Horace. I read the NY Post article (first, because I wasn't sure your writing wasn't all direct from the article), and this explains very well why revolutions and such are more of a young and single man's game.

    As for the guy's 2,000 rounds of rifle ammunition, that's just a decent stash, especially if he had .22 LR in there for a plinking/training rifle. 2,000 rounds of it would be less than 4 small cartons, each about the size of a pint milk carton. The news is big on reporting thousands of rounds of small caliber ammo.

    The thing that irks me the most about that story is the spelling of Edward with a "u". Who the hell does that?

    Replies: @AKAHorace, @White Men Can’t Jump

    She also misspelled her own daughter’s name as “Olvia.”

    She’s also an obsessive and opportunistic racist:

    “And last time he was being charged with domestic violence but with his fancy lawyer that charge was dismissed because well why not guess the white fancy judge was not in the mood to tell the white fancy lawyer to tell his white fancy client that he was being charged with 2 felonies instead of one.”

    I hope she was really pretty, and/or great in the sack when her husband met her, because Lord knows she has made him suffer since then.

    • Replies: @AKAHorace
    @White Men Can’t Jump


    The thing that irks me the most about that story is the spelling of Edward with a “u”. Who the hell does that?

     

    Forgivable if she is French or Latina. Irritating when Anglos do this. I suspect it goes with the rest of her attention seeking personality though.

    She also misspelled her own daughter’s name as “Olvia.”
     
    Actually, rereading the story I have to apologize to her. It seems to me that her husbands name is Eduard. Whatever else she has done, we Unz review commenters cannot blame the woman for naming her son Eduard. Perhaps she has another relative named Olvia.

    Achmed and White Man we cannot blame people unfairly, no matter what else they have done.
  114. @Rob
    The difference between the center-right and hbd-ers is that we are right. Population differences are not caused by soft environmental differences in the course of a generation. Population differences are caused by natural selection over dozens or hundreds of generations. There is no way that Big Tech can keep the lid on a majority non-white America for long enough for selection to work its magic. They won’t even exploit selection to change populations, because that is eugenics.

    They can’t cancel everyone who intuitively ‘gets’ hbd. Virtually everyone behaves as if they know blacks’ personality distributions are different. There are too many of us. After a decade or two of only very good liars and true believers climbing in society, the pro-man class will not function very well.

    The progressives cannot do very well with real-life integration. Diverse cultures living together rubs people the wrong way. Look at how upset whites make integrated blacks. The ‘Karen’ membe likely did not start in the underclass. Look at all the complaints about whites from integrated AA blacks in the upper-middle class and above. Imagine if everyone were that unhappy. With significant integration, they would be.

    The progressives can’t push hard for integrating blacks, because the black crime rate is so high. Cities will become unlivable if they defund the police. Keeping a lid on a pressure cooker does really make the contents more stable. It just raises the pressure. Things will get so bad, so fast, that people will organize in real life, where Big Tech is much more constrained.

    If Big Tech really tries pushing integration, hbd-er(s) goal(s) should be to make the burden be felt up the social scale. To a large extent, the progressives will do this to themselves. Look at the Dalton school planning on taking huge numbers of slum kids.

    They can cancel us. They can make our communication difficult, but that will only move things to the real world, where actual things happen. They cannot cancel reality.

    I think Steve has said that one generations’ unmentionable facts become the next generation’s unknown facts. That is what is happening here.

    Replies: @White Men Can’t Jump

    “the pro-man class”?

    There’s a lot of good thought in your comment; however, your conclusion seems to contradict it. You argued that everyone will become acquainted with the black behavior that makes integration intolerable, only to then non sequitur that these behaviors (“facts”) will go from being “unmentionable” to “unknown.”

    • Replies: @Rob
    @White Men Can’t Jump

    Pro-man class is the professional managerial class. I find pro-man class to be a funny way of referring to them.

    My conclusion was not so much a conclusion. Let me try to be clearer. The left today, the midwit women who went to college with whites (‘run the gamut from sexy chad to creepy incel’), Asians (‘boring’), Hispanics (‘oh, they clean up after me. An asset to America’), and blacks (‘they never say anything insightful in class, but the guys can be hot and the women are no competition. A win-win’). Have had very little exposure to anything but highly selected blacks. They have no idea what the underclass blacks are like. They think that because white men thought women were stupid and unsuited to public life, which lots did, that all groups men think are stupid, and in the case of blacks, savage, are just dandy, like women are.

    Especially because women mature faster, and are more conscientious and verbally adept than men are, they have been superior to the guys they went to school with ever since kindergarten, they think every group that white men thought were inferior must also be superior. TV has fed into that impression.

    Perhaps because women are the prize in group conflict, not the competitors; perhaps because they like ethnic food, they do not see that our society has competing groups. They think that all interactions between groups are beneficial to both sides. They either think the world is different enough today that all interactions are beneficial or they think that whoever wins does not much matter, because they are the prizes.

    They do not know why their grandparents or parents fled the cities for the suburbs. Because the causes of white flight are unmentionable, never even the subject of lectures in history class, they are forgotten.

    So, if they or their champions come to power, they will either not implement Diversity! laws and policies, in which case what they believe does not matter, or they will implement Diversity! policies. The current instantiation of Diversity! is shoving blacks into positions they cannot effectively fill, and putting black interests at the forefront of every organizations mission.

    If they are true believers, they will try integrating society. This will likely start with trying to integrate schools again and suburbs for the first time. Integrating schools failed in the sixties, because of hbd-caused differences in white and black behavior. Like the first time, integrating schools will cause a lot of whites kids to be victims of blacks. We know this, because we realize HBD is true. HBD was unmentionable when they were growing up, so they do not know how and why integration failed. They will learn, and be very unhappy with what happens to their children. They will discuss these issues and incidents in real life, in person with fellow parents. The tech giants will find these conversations difficult to track and censor. The HBD truth will become widely known, despite Google and Facebook disapproving.

    Integrating the ‘burbs will fail. The suburbs are not really set up for poor single mothers and their offspring. Racial differences in minds and body will cause a lot of interracial strife. Without police acting as the pointy end of the spear of white supremacy, these interactions will be very bad for whites. They do not know why whites fled neighborhoods when blacks moved in. They think it was because whites are racist for no reason. The truth was unmentionable when they were growing up, so they do not know. When they try integration again, they will learn. The tech giants will not be able to censor real life interactions.

    Diversity! could mean pushing dumb minorities into various jobs. An 85% white America could cope with 5% of doctors, for example, being AA types. In a 50% non-white America, trying to fill half the slots with dumbs greatly decreases the functionality of those institutions. They will notice and dislike the results. IQ differences were unmentionable when they were growing up, so they don’t know they exist. IQ test results were so mean to minorities that they don’t even know IQ is real. Nothing big tech does will prevent the woke white women from noticing how incapable the NAM professionals are.

    On the IQ front, Sailer has blogged about colleges scrapping the SAT. Even if they bring it back, College Board has transformed it from an IQ test to a regurgitation test. I have mentioned that the MCAT has been altered in ways that will reduce the number of very intelligent people going into medicine. The loss of meritocracy will have real world vonsequences. Institutions and corporations will not work as well as they do now. The higher social classes will harden, and the bright lower and working class whites will not move up. There will be very intelligent people excluded from privilege. No amount of Big Tech censorship will keep everyone smart enough to hurt the system benefitting more from current arrangements than they could be sure of. Opposition to society as constituted then will have intelligent leaders and thinkers. The dominant classes of society will not be as smart then as they are today.

    Etc. hbd is unmentionable, so they do not know it. But it is reality. As they try to implement policies predicated upon human uniformity, they will learn through experience, and big tech will not be able to stop that.

    Because they grew up in white ‘burbs, and now live in lightly diverse neighborhoods, they do not know how many non-whites are in America. I have read that when white people say they want diversity, what they want is about 95% whites with some token minorities and exotic restaurants. They do not realize that integration will make them minorities. They do not know how much their lives would be impacted for the worse if they lost ‘white privilege’. As that happens, I’d it does, they will realize it, and no amount of Big Tevh censorship will stop whites from developing real-world solidarity.

    There is, in some philosophical, Popperian falsifiability sense, the possibility that Diversity! policies will go swimmingly. Everyone will integrate and assimilate into white, middle class, ‘nice’ norms. IQ differences will go away. No one in America will be ethnocentric. There will not be any divisions along racial lines. Steve Sailer will the butt of humor along the lines of how silly we think Know-Nothing fears of Catholic immigrants were. I would welcome being completely wrong. If hbd is totally false. If the g factor and the bell curve are pure pseudoscience, I would be ecstatic. It means America will stay a first world country. It means we won’t have a civil war or dystopian surveillance state.

    For tl;dr , all the facts of hbd were unmentionable for decades. Those mentioning them were excluded from civil discourse. Their parents acted as if HBD were true, but did not teach it to their children. These kids did not learn about human differences in their neighborhoods, classrooms, or playgrounds, so they are true believers in the woke zeitgeist, so they will act on those beliefs. Because those beliefs are not true, actions based on them will not have the desired results, and big tech will not be able to censor peopke from learning about it. Wow, even my tl;dr is tl;dr.

    None of this means society will collapse. But society will get much more brittle. Exogenous shocks will be much more destabilizing than they would be in meritocratic, white America. Hispanics are a wild card. They are not much smarter than blacks, but the personality distribution is much different. Whether they throw in with whites or blacks will be interesting.

    The above applies to whites and perhaps Asians. Upper caste Indians have gone all in on anti-white, but I think if the economy goes south, then they will go home, where they are more stably a hereditary upper caste. Asian immigration will decline whether or not America does, because China will rise, and the baby bust reduces the supply of potential immigrants.

    All of this could change if some big, exogenous shock scares whites into thinking higher functioning government and institutions are more important than having more non-whites in fancy careers. I cannot imagine what a COVID that was just as infectious with a 30% death rate would do. I think the US would have collapsed today.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

  115. @Magic Dirt Resident
    @216

    The base doesn't know what it wants. They were free trade Friedmanites under Reagan, protectionist with Buchanan and Perot, then became blood thirsty deep state worshipping war hawks under Bush before deciding that peace is actually good and Assange is a hero under Trump. They've been strung along like rubes for decades. The ignorance of the average Republican voter is why the right wing has been an unmitigated failure in American politics. And the worst part is most of them STILL haven't figured out that they are being conned and grifted. Maybe that will change in the aftermath of Trump but as of now there's no reason to expect the base to articulate and fight for its own interests.

    Replies: @216, @fish

    It’s the problem of the Swine Right.

    The left has a monopoly on respectable intellectual positions.

    Steve Sailer, MBA, Blogger

    has less power than

    Steve Sailer, Ph.D. Harvard, Distinguished Professor, Director of the HBD Institute

    Conservative institutions are often run by closet liberals, and the rest of the people aren’t competent at their positions.

    • Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)
    @216


    It’s the problem of the Swine Right.
     
    A gigantic problem isn't it, exacerbated by the anti intellectualism of the right which has seen them vanish from the academia. A problem which will rapidly increase as the Republican party is now a Trump cult and the last respectable people in it the never Trumpers will defect and they will be left with the rabble the 'non college educated whites'. Their shrinking demographics means that they can't afford to lose any votes but they are going to because of the Trump cult, there are no major blue states on the brink of going red but there are a number of red states being threatened, only an alliance with Hispanics can save them from a political rout but their racist base won't accept that, a moment of truth for the Republicans.
  116. @Mike Tre
    @Bartleby the Scrivner

    How much of my paycheck goes to paying for local, state, and federal law enforcement? (Fact check me, bro) I'd sure like to get my money's worth.

    When BLM is busy burning my fucking city down, and the CPD are caught lounging in a district building, something tells me I'm not quite getting it.

    https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-police-riot-looting-riots/9662169/

    Replies: @Bartleby the Scrivner

    Great question. Although I’m pretty sure coppers pay Federal Taxes as well,(no fact checking required).
    What the cops are doing, at least in Chicago, is locking up offenders who engage in crime.
    Then the offenders are released
    Then the beefs come
    Then your listing your assets with the city
    Then your getting sued
    Then your getting fired
    See, not everyone is “lounging at the station”. But hey, run for Mayor. Change the situation. You got my vote.

  117. @Mike Tre
    @Anon

    " It’s a tough job, and very demoralizing trying to pound learning and lawful obedience into stupid, sociopathic blacks. "

    They can always quit and find a new job, less dangerous. But they don't. They instead target normies and write citations for imaginary traffic crimes or simply hide out their entire shift watching porn in the squad car they take home with them. Think I'm kidding? I have 2 first cousins who are CPD officers who do exactly that. They certainly aren't the only ones.

    Replies: @Bartleby the Scrivner

    Guess they can always code. And if you think coppers only write normies, you’ve never worked a tour.
    As for your cousins on the job, if they have a take home car they’re in a unit=heavy, or juiced up. Watching porn is part of their gig.

    But there’s something good that comes out of your comment. It confirms that a few goofs can be a true representation of s whole group. I guess all honkies are Nazis. Who knew?!

  118. @Cletus
    @Bartleby the Scrivner

    As of a few years ago, the teachers themselves put in 2% and the "school district" paid the other 7%.

    I'm being a jerk with the scare quotes, but I hated being told that since it was me and other taxpayers making that contribution, not the meanies at CPS.

    Replies: @Bartleby the Scrivner

    I stand corrected.

  119. Rob says:
    @White Men Can’t Jump
    @Rob

    "the pro-man class"?

    There's a lot of good thought in your comment; however, your conclusion seems to contradict it. You argued that everyone will become acquainted with the black behavior that makes integration intolerable, only to then non sequitur that these behaviors ("facts") will go from being "unmentionable" to "unknown."

    Replies: @Rob

    Pro-man class is the professional managerial class. I find pro-man class to be a funny way of referring to them.

    My conclusion was not so much a conclusion. Let me try to be clearer. The left today, the midwit women who went to college with whites (‘run the gamut from sexy chad to creepy incel’), Asians (‘boring’), Hispanics (‘oh, they clean up after me. An asset to America’), and blacks (‘they never say anything insightful in class, but the guys can be hot and the women are no competition. A win-win’). Have had very little exposure to anything but highly selected blacks. They have no idea what the underclass blacks are like. They think that because white men thought women were stupid and unsuited to public life, which lots did, that all groups men think are stupid, and in the case of blacks, savage, are just dandy, like women are.

    [MORE]

    Especially because women mature faster, and are more conscientious and verbally adept than men are, they have been superior to the guys they went to school with ever since kindergarten, they think every group that white men thought were inferior must also be superior. TV has fed into that impression.

    Perhaps because women are the prize in group conflict, not the competitors; perhaps because they like ethnic food, they do not see that our society has competing groups. They think that all interactions between groups are beneficial to both sides. They either think the world is different enough today that all interactions are beneficial or they think that whoever wins does not much matter, because they are the prizes.

    They do not know why their grandparents or parents fled the cities for the suburbs. Because the causes of white flight are unmentionable, never even the subject of lectures in history class, they are forgotten.

    So, if they or their champions come to power, they will either not implement Diversity! laws and policies, in which case what they believe does not matter, or they will implement Diversity! policies. The current instantiation of Diversity! is shoving blacks into positions they cannot effectively fill, and putting black interests at the forefront of every organizations mission.

    If they are true believers, they will try integrating society. This will likely start with trying to integrate schools again and suburbs for the first time. Integrating schools failed in the sixties, because of hbd-caused differences in white and black behavior. Like the first time, integrating schools will cause a lot of whites kids to be victims of blacks. We know this, because we realize HBD is true. HBD was unmentionable when they were growing up, so they do not know how and why integration failed. They will learn, and be very unhappy with what happens to their children. They will discuss these issues and incidents in real life, in person with fellow parents. The tech giants will find these conversations difficult to track and censor. The HBD truth will become widely known, despite Google and Facebook disapproving.

    Integrating the ‘burbs will fail. The suburbs are not really set up for poor single mothers and their offspring. Racial differences in minds and body will cause a lot of interracial strife. Without police acting as the pointy end of the spear of white supremacy, these interactions will be very bad for whites. They do not know why whites fled neighborhoods when blacks moved in. They think it was because whites are racist for no reason. The truth was unmentionable when they were growing up, so they do not know. When they try integration again, they will learn. The tech giants will not be able to censor real life interactions.

    Diversity! could mean pushing dumb minorities into various jobs. An 85% white America could cope with 5% of doctors, for example, being AA types. In a 50% non-white America, trying to fill half the slots with dumbs greatly decreases the functionality of those institutions. They will notice and dislike the results. IQ differences were unmentionable when they were growing up, so they don’t know they exist. IQ test results were so mean to minorities that they don’t even know IQ is real. Nothing big tech does will prevent the woke white women from noticing how incapable the NAM professionals are.

    On the IQ front, Sailer has blogged about colleges scrapping the SAT. Even if they bring it back, College Board has transformed it from an IQ test to a regurgitation test. I have mentioned that the MCAT has been altered in ways that will reduce the number of very intelligent people going into medicine. The loss of meritocracy will have real world vonsequences. Institutions and corporations will not work as well as they do now. The higher social classes will harden, and the bright lower and working class whites will not move up. There will be very intelligent people excluded from privilege. No amount of Big Tech censorship will keep everyone smart enough to hurt the system benefitting more from current arrangements than they could be sure of. Opposition to society as constituted then will have intelligent leaders and thinkers. The dominant classes of society will not be as smart then as they are today.

    Etc. hbd is unmentionable, so they do not know it. But it is reality. As they try to implement policies predicated upon human uniformity, they will learn through experience, and big tech will not be able to stop that.

    Because they grew up in white ‘burbs, and now live in lightly diverse neighborhoods, they do not know how many non-whites are in America. I have read that when white people say they want diversity, what they want is about 95% whites with some token minorities and exotic restaurants. They do not realize that integration will make them minorities. They do not know how much their lives would be impacted for the worse if they lost ‘white privilege’. As that happens, I’d it does, they will realize it, and no amount of Big Tevh censorship will stop whites from developing real-world solidarity.

    There is, in some philosophical, Popperian falsifiability sense, the possibility that Diversity! policies will go swimmingly. Everyone will integrate and assimilate into white, middle class, ‘nice’ norms. IQ differences will go away. No one in America will be ethnocentric. There will not be any divisions along racial lines. Steve Sailer will the butt of humor along the lines of how silly we think Know-Nothing fears of Catholic immigrants were. I would welcome being completely wrong. If hbd is totally false. If the g factor and the bell curve are pure pseudoscience, I would be ecstatic. It means America will stay a first world country. It means we won’t have a civil war or dystopian surveillance state.

    For tl;dr , all the facts of hbd were unmentionable for decades. Those mentioning them were excluded from civil discourse. Their parents acted as if HBD were true, but did not teach it to their children. These kids did not learn about human differences in their neighborhoods, classrooms, or playgrounds, so they are true believers in the woke zeitgeist, so they will act on those beliefs. Because those beliefs are not true, actions based on them will not have the desired results, and big tech will not be able to censor peopke from learning about it. Wow, even my tl;dr is tl;dr.

    None of this means society will collapse. But society will get much more brittle. Exogenous shocks will be much more destabilizing than they would be in meritocratic, white America. Hispanics are a wild card. They are not much smarter than blacks, but the personality distribution is much different. Whether they throw in with whites or blacks will be interesting.

    The above applies to whites and perhaps Asians. Upper caste Indians have gone all in on anti-white, but I think if the economy goes south, then they will go home, where they are more stably a hereditary upper caste. Asian immigration will decline whether or not America does, because China will rise, and the baby bust reduces the supply of potential immigrants.

    All of this could change if some big, exogenous shock scares whites into thinking higher functioning government and institutions are more important than having more non-whites in fancy careers. I cannot imagine what a COVID that was just as infectious with a 30% death rate would do. I think the US would have collapsed today.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @Rob

    Thanks for the lengthy response. My comments and the responses to them (eight, and counting) have somehow all been attributed to "White Men Can't Jump." I am Nicholas Stix.

    I would add, however, that there is an evil ally class of Whites, which has long been semi-integrated into work and educational settings with blacks and Hispanics. The allies constantly look to set up other Whites to be harmed (physically, professionally, etc.) by blacks and Hispanics. If they see a racist black-on-White attack at work or on the street, they will go so far as to commit the crime of filing a false police report, alleging that the White victim was actually the perp, or jumping the vic, as well, or will denounce the vic to his face as a "racist."

  120. @White Men Can’t Jump
    @Achmed E. Newman

    She also misspelled her own daughter's name as "Olvia."

    She's also an obsessive and opportunistic racist:

    "And last time he was being charged with domestic violence but with his fancy lawyer that charge was dismissed because well why not guess the white fancy judge was not in the mood to tell the white fancy lawyer to tell his white fancy client that he was being charged with 2 felonies instead of one."

    I hope she was really pretty, and/or great in the sack when her husband met her, because Lord knows she has made him suffer since then.

    Replies: @AKAHorace

    The thing that irks me the most about that story is the spelling of Edward with a “u”. Who the hell does that?

    Forgivable if she is French or Latina. Irritating when Anglos do this. I suspect it goes with the rest of her attention seeking personality though.

    She also misspelled her own daughter’s name as “Olvia.”

    Actually, rereading the story I have to apologize to her. It seems to me that her husbands name is Eduard. Whatever else she has done, we Unz review commenters cannot blame the woman for naming her son Eduard. Perhaps she has another relative named Olvia.

    Achmed and White Man we cannot blame people unfairly, no matter what else they have done.

  121. @Magic Dirt Resident
    @216

    The base doesn't know what it wants. They were free trade Friedmanites under Reagan, protectionist with Buchanan and Perot, then became blood thirsty deep state worshipping war hawks under Bush before deciding that peace is actually good and Assange is a hero under Trump. They've been strung along like rubes for decades. The ignorance of the average Republican voter is why the right wing has been an unmitigated failure in American politics. And the worst part is most of them STILL haven't figured out that they are being conned and grifted. Maybe that will change in the aftermath of Trump but as of now there's no reason to expect the base to articulate and fight for its own interests.

    Replies: @216, @fish

    I would have preferred to click “agree” but the site wouldn’t let me.

    AGREE

  122. @216
    @Magic Dirt Resident

    It's the problem of the Swine Right.

    The left has a monopoly on respectable intellectual positions.

    Steve Sailer, MBA, Blogger

    has less power than

    Steve Sailer, Ph.D. Harvard, Distinguished Professor, Director of the HBD Institute

    Conservative institutions are often run by closet liberals, and the rest of the people aren't competent at their positions.

    Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)

    It’s the problem of the Swine Right.

    A gigantic problem isn’t it, exacerbated by the anti intellectualism of the right which has seen them vanish from the academia. A problem which will rapidly increase as the Republican party is now a Trump cult and the last respectable people in it the never Trumpers will defect and they will be left with the rabble the ‘non college educated whites’. Their shrinking demographics means that they can’t afford to lose any votes but they are going to because of the Trump cult, there are no major blue states on the brink of going red but there are a number of red states being threatened, only an alliance with Hispanics can save them from a political rout but their racist base won’t accept that, a moment of truth for the Republicans.

  123. @Mike Tre
    The only big problem I ever had with SCC (as a native of Chicago I feel qualified to opine on this) was their staunch sense of entitlement in regard to their lavish pensions. Those guys were as bad as any CPS teachers' union steward with the rhetoric, often citing pensions as their "state constitutional right." They were perfectly happy to go down with the ship as long as they were provided with first class accommodations.

    That in itself was merely a symptom of the larger disease; that being police really are only protecting and serving their pensions. Urban police are modern day Sheriff's of Nottingham.

    And finally, over all the years I read them, never one damn look in the mirror on how their public sector union was a big big part of the problem.


    But aside from that, they were an invaluable look inside the Chicago Machine.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Cortes, @Bartleby the Scrivner, @Anon, @europeasant, @Curle

    I have been reading SCC for many years. In general they are a good read and source of information but yea they never discuss their burgeoning pensions. Also they will not touch any race realism topic. That’s too hot for SCC to handle.

  124. @Hypnotoad666
    @Anonymous

    It's hard to talk about the CIA/NSA/FBI being behind anything without sounding like a "conspiracy theorist." OTOH, we know that there is a mutual aid relationship between MSM, Social Media, and the Deep State, and that all three are on a mission to destroy Trump and Trumpism.

    So why wouldn't one assume they are working together on this project.

    BTW, when was the last time you heard the MSM say anything remotely skeptical, much less negative, about any of the three-letter agencies? They've been besties since 2008, at least.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Paul Jolliffe

    No offense, but the MSM has been parroting the CIA line on most issues since the 1950’s.

    Operation Mockingbird was started before Steve Sailer was born:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

  125. @El Dato
    @Hypnotoad666

    Google network engineers were unhappy when they learned the NSA was tapping their lines to the point where they upgraded to encrypt the data traffic internally.

    It has probably not helped.

    https://www.pri.org/stories/2013-07-09/17-disturbing-things-snowden-has-taught-us-so-far


    PRISM is the NSA effort to collect massive amounts of data from internet companies such as email content, search histories and file transfers tied to potential terrorism or espionage suspects. The PowerPoint presentation confirmed that the NSA is able to directly access the servers of "major US service providers,” describing collaboration with tech companies like YouTube, Skype, Google and Apple. Google, Apple, and others in the tech industry, however, denied awareness of the program.

    PRISM began in 2007 with Microsoft and expanded to include Apple in 2012. To be subject to PRISM surveillance, there need only be “reasonable suspicion” that one of the suspects is outside the United States. Unlike the Verizon court-ordered collaboration, the government can access live information, photos, video chats and data from social networks directly through the companies’ servers without required consent or individual court orders. One slide puts the cost of the program at $20 million per year.
     
    It's been nearly 8 years since this hit and nothing has happened.

    Hopefully China has upgraded is information security.

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe

    Five years ago, Hollywood made a Jason Bourne movie about CIA control of social media.

    Does the Deep State influence American public opinion by manipulating social media and the MSM?

    Duh . . .

  126. @Magic Dirt Resident
    @gent

    They don't realize that on almost every single issue they accept the premises of the left. And then wonder why they can never win lol.

    Replies: @White Men Can’t Jump

    That was the beauty, in part, of the late Larry Auster, may he rest in peace. He pointed out that self-styled conservatives were virtually all liberals. That hadn’t previously occurred to me.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @White Men Can’t Jump

    That was me, getting posted as "White Men Can't Jump." A trip through The Software Zone somehow transformed me into someone else for a 30-minute episode.

    Replies: @Dissident

  127. @Abolish_public_education
    @Bartleby the Scrivner

    Cops, FFs, schoolteachers, etc. do not make pension contributions.

    Public pensions are funded by taxes.

    Only private sector types pay taxes.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Curle

    This may be true for some types of jobs in some jurisdictions, but it is not universally true, and I doubt that it is even generally true. Whether the contributions, when there are contributions, fully fund the pensions, is another story. Usually they don’t.

  128. @Abolish_public_education
    @Bartleby the Scrivner

    Cops, FFs, schoolteachers, etc. do not make pension contributions.

    Public pensions are funded by taxes.

    Only private sector types pay taxes.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Curle

    There is an compensation package and often it includes a portion that is set aside for pensions and sometimes other benefits. So yes, it is monies obligated to them in exchange for services. That the obligation is paid out of taxes collected is irrelevant to determining the nature of the obligation.

    • Disagree: Abolish_public_education
  129. @Mike Tre
    The only big problem I ever had with SCC (as a native of Chicago I feel qualified to opine on this) was their staunch sense of entitlement in regard to their lavish pensions. Those guys were as bad as any CPS teachers' union steward with the rhetoric, often citing pensions as their "state constitutional right." They were perfectly happy to go down with the ship as long as they were provided with first class accommodations.

    That in itself was merely a symptom of the larger disease; that being police really are only protecting and serving their pensions. Urban police are modern day Sheriff's of Nottingham.

    And finally, over all the years I read them, never one damn look in the mirror on how their public sector union was a big big part of the problem.


    But aside from that, they were an invaluable look inside the Chicago Machine.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Cortes, @Bartleby the Scrivner, @Anon, @europeasant, @Curle

    Well run public agencies use comparables just like the private sector to determine total compensation. Many use the same firms the private sector uses. Pensions are just a component of the overall package and are designed for retention purposes.

    People at the bottom quarter of their profession’s compensation scale will view public employees as overpaid, people at the higher end would never make the switch.

    In periods where average age is extending, pension programs will become underfunded. Where it is declining, they become flush.

  130. @Rob
    @White Men Can’t Jump

    Pro-man class is the professional managerial class. I find pro-man class to be a funny way of referring to them.

    My conclusion was not so much a conclusion. Let me try to be clearer. The left today, the midwit women who went to college with whites (‘run the gamut from sexy chad to creepy incel’), Asians (‘boring’), Hispanics (‘oh, they clean up after me. An asset to America’), and blacks (‘they never say anything insightful in class, but the guys can be hot and the women are no competition. A win-win’). Have had very little exposure to anything but highly selected blacks. They have no idea what the underclass blacks are like. They think that because white men thought women were stupid and unsuited to public life, which lots did, that all groups men think are stupid, and in the case of blacks, savage, are just dandy, like women are.

    Especially because women mature faster, and are more conscientious and verbally adept than men are, they have been superior to the guys they went to school with ever since kindergarten, they think every group that white men thought were inferior must also be superior. TV has fed into that impression.

    Perhaps because women are the prize in group conflict, not the competitors; perhaps because they like ethnic food, they do not see that our society has competing groups. They think that all interactions between groups are beneficial to both sides. They either think the world is different enough today that all interactions are beneficial or they think that whoever wins does not much matter, because they are the prizes.

    They do not know why their grandparents or parents fled the cities for the suburbs. Because the causes of white flight are unmentionable, never even the subject of lectures in history class, they are forgotten.

    So, if they or their champions come to power, they will either not implement Diversity! laws and policies, in which case what they believe does not matter, or they will implement Diversity! policies. The current instantiation of Diversity! is shoving blacks into positions they cannot effectively fill, and putting black interests at the forefront of every organizations mission.

    If they are true believers, they will try integrating society. This will likely start with trying to integrate schools again and suburbs for the first time. Integrating schools failed in the sixties, because of hbd-caused differences in white and black behavior. Like the first time, integrating schools will cause a lot of whites kids to be victims of blacks. We know this, because we realize HBD is true. HBD was unmentionable when they were growing up, so they do not know how and why integration failed. They will learn, and be very unhappy with what happens to their children. They will discuss these issues and incidents in real life, in person with fellow parents. The tech giants will find these conversations difficult to track and censor. The HBD truth will become widely known, despite Google and Facebook disapproving.

    Integrating the ‘burbs will fail. The suburbs are not really set up for poor single mothers and their offspring. Racial differences in minds and body will cause a lot of interracial strife. Without police acting as the pointy end of the spear of white supremacy, these interactions will be very bad for whites. They do not know why whites fled neighborhoods when blacks moved in. They think it was because whites are racist for no reason. The truth was unmentionable when they were growing up, so they do not know. When they try integration again, they will learn. The tech giants will not be able to censor real life interactions.

    Diversity! could mean pushing dumb minorities into various jobs. An 85% white America could cope with 5% of doctors, for example, being AA types. In a 50% non-white America, trying to fill half the slots with dumbs greatly decreases the functionality of those institutions. They will notice and dislike the results. IQ differences were unmentionable when they were growing up, so they don’t know they exist. IQ test results were so mean to minorities that they don’t even know IQ is real. Nothing big tech does will prevent the woke white women from noticing how incapable the NAM professionals are.

    On the IQ front, Sailer has blogged about colleges scrapping the SAT. Even if they bring it back, College Board has transformed it from an IQ test to a regurgitation test. I have mentioned that the MCAT has been altered in ways that will reduce the number of very intelligent people going into medicine. The loss of meritocracy will have real world vonsequences. Institutions and corporations will not work as well as they do now. The higher social classes will harden, and the bright lower and working class whites will not move up. There will be very intelligent people excluded from privilege. No amount of Big Tech censorship will keep everyone smart enough to hurt the system benefitting more from current arrangements than they could be sure of. Opposition to society as constituted then will have intelligent leaders and thinkers. The dominant classes of society will not be as smart then as they are today.

    Etc. hbd is unmentionable, so they do not know it. But it is reality. As they try to implement policies predicated upon human uniformity, they will learn through experience, and big tech will not be able to stop that.

    Because they grew up in white ‘burbs, and now live in lightly diverse neighborhoods, they do not know how many non-whites are in America. I have read that when white people say they want diversity, what they want is about 95% whites with some token minorities and exotic restaurants. They do not realize that integration will make them minorities. They do not know how much their lives would be impacted for the worse if they lost ‘white privilege’. As that happens, I’d it does, they will realize it, and no amount of Big Tevh censorship will stop whites from developing real-world solidarity.

    There is, in some philosophical, Popperian falsifiability sense, the possibility that Diversity! policies will go swimmingly. Everyone will integrate and assimilate into white, middle class, ‘nice’ norms. IQ differences will go away. No one in America will be ethnocentric. There will not be any divisions along racial lines. Steve Sailer will the butt of humor along the lines of how silly we think Know-Nothing fears of Catholic immigrants were. I would welcome being completely wrong. If hbd is totally false. If the g factor and the bell curve are pure pseudoscience, I would be ecstatic. It means America will stay a first world country. It means we won’t have a civil war or dystopian surveillance state.

    For tl;dr , all the facts of hbd were unmentionable for decades. Those mentioning them were excluded from civil discourse. Their parents acted as if HBD were true, but did not teach it to their children. These kids did not learn about human differences in their neighborhoods, classrooms, or playgrounds, so they are true believers in the woke zeitgeist, so they will act on those beliefs. Because those beliefs are not true, actions based on them will not have the desired results, and big tech will not be able to censor peopke from learning about it. Wow, even my tl;dr is tl;dr.

    None of this means society will collapse. But society will get much more brittle. Exogenous shocks will be much more destabilizing than they would be in meritocratic, white America. Hispanics are a wild card. They are not much smarter than blacks, but the personality distribution is much different. Whether they throw in with whites or blacks will be interesting.

    The above applies to whites and perhaps Asians. Upper caste Indians have gone all in on anti-white, but I think if the economy goes south, then they will go home, where they are more stably a hereditary upper caste. Asian immigration will decline whether or not America does, because China will rise, and the baby bust reduces the supply of potential immigrants.

    All of this could change if some big, exogenous shock scares whites into thinking higher functioning government and institutions are more important than having more non-whites in fancy careers. I cannot imagine what a COVID that was just as infectious with a 30% death rate would do. I think the US would have collapsed today.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

    Thanks for the lengthy response. My comments and the responses to them (eight, and counting) have somehow all been attributed to “White Men Can’t Jump.” I am Nicholas Stix.

    I would add, however, that there is an evil ally class of Whites, which has long been semi-integrated into work and educational settings with blacks and Hispanics. The allies constantly look to set up other Whites to be harmed (physically, professionally, etc.) by blacks and Hispanics. If they see a racist black-on-White attack at work or on the street, they will go so far as to commit the crime of filing a false police report, alleging that the White victim was actually the perp, or jumping the vic, as well, or will denounce the vic to his face as a “racist.”

  131. @White Men Can’t Jump
    @Magic Dirt Resident

    That was the beauty, in part, of the late Larry Auster, may he rest in peace. He pointed out that self-styled conservatives were virtually all liberals. That hadn't previously occurred to me.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

    That was me, getting posted as “White Men Can’t Jump.” A trip through The Software Zone somehow transformed me into someone else for a 30-minute episode.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @Nicholas Stix


    That was me, getting posted as “White Men Can’t Jump.” A trip through The Software Zone somehow transformed me into someone else for a 30-minute episode.
     
    Thanks for letting us know. You are not the first to report such an odd occurrence.

    I wondered whether it was you or someone else who simply entered the URL for your blog into the Optional Website or Link field.

    Incidentally, concerning said field,

    1.) I had always understood it (both here as well as at other sites) as being intended for either a personal web site of the individual posting the comment, or a site that he publishes or is at least directly affiliated with. A number of individuals, however, apparently use the field to advertise a site or page that they simply wish to promote or associate themselves with. (When I first noticed the phenomenon, in the form of a particular commenter who would include the top-level URL for (the infamous) 4Chan with each of his comments, I asked him: "Are you affiliated with 4chan? If not, isn't it misleading for you to enter it in the URL field for your comments?")

    2.) Both here, and even more so so in comments at a different site I used to frequent, I have seen some people enter either the URL of the site they are commenting at itself ( Unz.com here); a generic URL such as that for Google, Yahoo or AOL; or something like n/a or none, thereby signaling a lack of understanding that the field is in fact optional; that it can-- and indeed should-- simply be left blank if one does not have a specific site or web page that one wishes to associate one's comment with.

  132. @Nicholas Stix
    @White Men Can’t Jump

    That was me, getting posted as "White Men Can't Jump." A trip through The Software Zone somehow transformed me into someone else for a 30-minute episode.

    Replies: @Dissident

    That was me, getting posted as “White Men Can’t Jump.” A trip through The Software Zone somehow transformed me into someone else for a 30-minute episode.

    Thanks for letting us know. You are not the first to report such an odd occurrence.

    I wondered whether it was you or someone else who simply entered the URL for your blog into the Optional Website or Link field.

    Incidentally, concerning said field,

    1.) I had always understood it (both here as well as at other sites) as being intended for either a personal web site of the individual posting the comment, or a site that he publishes or is at least directly affiliated with. A number of individuals, however, apparently use the field to

    [MORE]
    advertise a site or page that they simply wish to promote or associate themselves with. (When I first noticed the phenomenon, in the form of a particular commenter who would include the top-level URL for (the infamous) 4Chan with each of his comments, I asked him: “Are you affiliated with 4chan? If not, isn’t it misleading for you to enter it in the URL field for your comments?”)

    2.) Both here, and even more so so in comments at a different site I used to frequent, I have seen some people enter either the URL of the site they are commenting at itself ( Unz.com here); a generic URL such as that for Google, Yahoo or AOL; or something like n/a or none, thereby signaling a lack of understanding that the field is in fact optional; that it can– and indeed should— simply be left blank if one does not have a specific site or web page that one wishes to associate one’s comment with.

  133. @Almost Missouri
    @SimpleSong


    1.) Browser: best choice is Brave.
     
    Vivaldi good too. And Gab's Dissenter browser.

    2.) Learn to use tor
     
    Despite Snowden's endorsement, something's wrong with Tor lately. Sites on the far end can know your location. I don't know if it is anything to do with "browser settings" as Chrisnonymous suggests, but somehow it's gotten leaky in a way that even non-tech-lord sites have visibility through the tunnel.

    3.) Web search: Duck Duck Go is the best in my opinion, but anything that isn’t Google is OK–fragmenting the market keeps the search engines honest.
     
    Other good search engines to keep market fragmented and honest: Yippy, StartPage. There are others.

    5.) ... think about Protonmail ...
     
    There are others too, e.g., Tutanota. Note that most have significant limitations in the free versions.

    6.) Don't ever use an app to access something on your phone that you could just access through the phone's web browser.
     
    Agree. Apps are spyware. For some reason it is very hard to get people to understand this. Even if you are not using the app, once you have downloaded and installed it, many apps have invisible components that are running all the time in the background.

    7.) ... monero is better design than bitcoin
     
    Agree.

    9.) Run linux instead of Microsoft Windows or Apple iOS.
     
    Agree, but note that all machines nowadays have hidden operating systems running underneath the OS you think you're using.

    10.) ... use open-source software unless it is just totally inadequate.
     
    Agree.

    11.) You can also get linux smartphones such as the PinePhone if you are really hardcore, and this avoids dealing with Apple and Google.
     
    Agree, but note that no matter what phone you have, you still have to deal with a carrier (AT&T, Verizon, etc). Carriers have been notable among the corporate wokarchy as the dogs who haven't barked ... yet. They are all converged by the NSA, so if the Three Letter Guys want to listen in, they will, but so far, I know of no cases of woke employees doxxing customers, leaking private data, or blocking you based on your viewpoint. Why not? Maybe because they come from the Common Carrier era that predated the insane perversion of Section 230 that has led to the woke impunity culture. Or maybe because you really have to be able to do something to work there, so mouthing wokitude isn't enough. OTOH, these carriers are all pledging allegiance to BLM, diversity, etc., so it is probably just a matter of time before they become SiliValley-ized.

    The bottom line in security/anonymity is compartmentalization. Keep your crimethought identity and your real identity apart as much as possible: separate accounts, separate browsers, separate software, preferably separate hardware—preferably hardware that doesn't advertise its location.*

    Obviously, if you have to pay for anything, this becomes problematic, as your crimethought identity probably doesn't have any funds, so you have to connect your real identity or just try to operate gratis. You can justify paying for anonymity via VPN, for example, but understand the risks of what you are doing.

    ------

    *This is increasingly impossible if you access the internet, as the location of any wifi router or cell tower that you connect through is usually known with some precision.

    Replies: @Too Long Didn't Read, @Dissident

    something’s wrong with Tor lately. Sites on the far end can know your location. I don’t know if it is anything to do with “browser settings” as Chrisnonymous suggests, but somehow it’s gotten leaky in a way that even non-tech-lord sites have visibility through the tunnel.

    Interesting. Are you using the official Tor Browser from the Tor Project? (Or within Tails)
    And did you properly verify the authenticity of your download?

    https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018121491

    Note that Private Windows with Tor Connectivity in Brave are just regular private windows that use Tor as a proxy. Brave does NOT implement most of the privacy protections from Tor Browser.
    […]
    If your personal safety depends on remaining anonymous, we highly recommend using Tor Browser instead of Brave Tor windows.
    […]
    Learn about known leaks in Tor when using Brave

    Note that even when used fully as advised, Tor has limitations, and is certainly not foolproof. The Tor Project itself acknowledges this–

    [MORE]
    but rather buried within the fine print. At the most conspicuous parts of the site, claims and statements are displayed that are rather ambitious and even, arguably, misleading.

    Simply using any tool, whether Tor, Tails, a VPN, or anything else, without proper awareness of its limitations, is likely to provide a false sense of security that can make one more vulnerable rather than less.

    Every individual needs to determine his threat model and learn what is and what is not realistic. Security and privacy will always be in conflict with convenience, usability and functionality. The more one has of one (i.e., any of the former), the less one will have of the other (i.e., any of the latter).

    They are all converged by the NSA, so if the Three Letter Guys want to listen in, they will,

    If the TLAs (Three Letter Agencies)/ “spooks” want you badly enough, they’ll get you. It’s only a matter of time.

    Keep your crimethought identity and your real identity apart as much as possible: separate accounts, separate browsers, separate software, preferably separate hardware—preferably hardware that doesn’t advertise its location.*

    That is generally quite difficult for most people to consistently sustain. And it only takes one slip-up– which is all-too-easy– to dox oneself. Another strong risk factor, one overlooked by many, is how much of a fingerprint one’s particular writing style can leave.

    Obviously, if you have to pay for anything, this becomes problematic, as your crimethought identity probably doesn’t have any funds, so you have to connect your real identity or just try to operate gratis.

    True, but on the other hand, as the much-repeated adage goes, If you’re not paying for the product (or service), then you are the product.. Whether it’s email, hosting, a VPN, etc., all of these services cost money, time and effort to provide. (To say nothing of opening one up to potential liability.) It is extremely rare and unlikely for anyone to bear such costs on behalf of others merely out of altruistic motivations. There’s no free lunch. (TNFL)

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Dissident


    Are you using the official Tor Browser from the Tor Project? (Or within Tails)
     
    Browser. Yes, there are more secure ways, but the browser alone has always apparently worked up until recently.

    Simply using any tool, whether Tor, Tails, a VPN, or anything else, without proper awareness of its limitations, is likely to provide a false sense of security that can make one more vulnerable rather than less.
     
    Good point. OTOH, everything has limitations, and the worst limitations are the ones that you don't know about: the "unknown unknowns". And, at some point, you have to decide how much you are going to curtail your existence for the sake of paranoia, even justified paranoia. (cf. covid lockdowns)

    Every individual needs to determine his threat model and learn what is and what is not realistic.
     
    Yeah, but most people don't read fine print and don't know what a "threat model" is. Bottom line: most people aren't worried about getting assassinated by the CIA, they just don't want wokels to derail their life. Two basic principles: prudence and compartmentalization, and a few basic measures: VPN, disfavor woke tech, avoid gratuitous apps, others mentioned upthread, can cut out ninety-odd percent of that risk.


    Keep your crimethought identity and your real identity apart as much as possible: separate accounts, separate browsers, separate software, preferably separate hardware—preferably hardware that doesn’t advertise its location.
     
    That is generally quite difficult for most people to consistently sustain. And it only takes one slip-up– which is all-too-easy– to dox oneself.
     
    Yes, but the alternative is not doing it and thereby pre-doxxing yourself.

    Another strong risk factor, one overlooked by many, is how much of a fingerprint one’s particular writing style can leave.
     
    Yes, writing style, voiceprint, location data, even typing pattern and walking pattern ... there are endless ways we are increasingly being unwittingly digitally fingerprinted. But again, what're ya gonna do about it? Cower in paranoia? Or limit your risk and move forward?

    If you’re not paying for the product (or service), then you are the product. Whether it’s email, hosting, a VPN, etc., all of these services cost money, time and effort to provide. (To say nothing of opening one up to potential liability.) It is extremely rare and unlikely for anyone to bear such costs on behalf of others merely out of altruistic motivations. There’s no free lunch.
     
    True, and I would add that we all have an interest in supporting those working for privacy and freedom. Cash is still the easiest and most reliable way to move funds privately, even if it is into prepaid credit cards.

    Replies: @Dissident

  134. @Dissident
    @Almost Missouri


    something’s wrong with Tor lately. Sites on the far end can know your location. I don’t know if it is anything to do with “browser settings” as Chrisnonymous suggests, but somehow it’s gotten leaky in a way that even non-tech-lord sites have visibility through the tunnel.
     
    Interesting. Are you using the official Tor Browser from the Tor Project? (Or within Tails)
    And did you properly verify the authenticity of your download?

    https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018121491


    Note that Private Windows with Tor Connectivity in Brave are just regular private windows that use Tor as a proxy. Brave does NOT implement most of the privacy protections from Tor Browser.
    [...]
    If your personal safety depends on remaining anonymous, we highly recommend using Tor Browser instead of Brave Tor windows.
    [...]
    Learn about known leaks in Tor when using Brave

     

    Note that even when used fully as advised, Tor has limitations, and is certainly not foolproof. The Tor Project itself acknowledges this-- but rather buried within the fine print. At the most conspicuous parts of the site, claims and statements are displayed that are rather ambitious and even, arguably, misleading.

    Simply using any tool, whether Tor, Tails, a VPN, or anything else, without proper awareness of its limitations, is likely to provide a false sense of security that can make one more vulnerable rather than less.

    Every individual needs to determine his threat model and learn what is and what is not realistic. Security and privacy will always be in conflict with convenience, usability and functionality. The more one has of one (i.e., any of the former), the less one will have of the other (i.e., any of the latter).


    They are all converged by the NSA, so if the Three Letter Guys want to listen in, they will,
     
    If the TLAs (Three Letter Agencies)/ "spooks" want you badly enough, they'll get you. It's only a matter of time.

    Keep your crimethought identity and your real identity apart as much as possible: separate accounts, separate browsers, separate software, preferably separate hardware—preferably hardware that doesn’t advertise its location.*
     
    That is generally quite difficult for most people to consistently sustain. And it only takes one slip-up-- which is all-too-easy-- to dox oneself. Another strong risk factor, one overlooked by many, is how much of a fingerprint one's particular writing style can leave.

    Obviously, if you have to pay for anything, this becomes problematic, as your crimethought identity probably doesn’t have any funds, so you have to connect your real identity or just try to operate gratis.
     
    True, but on the other hand, as the much-repeated adage goes, If you're not paying for the product (or service), then you are the product.. Whether it's email, hosting, a VPN, etc., all of these services cost money, time and effort to provide. (To say nothing of opening one up to potential liability.) It is extremely rare and unlikely for anyone to bear such costs on behalf of others merely out of altruistic motivations. There's no free lunch. (TNFL)

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Are you using the official Tor Browser from the Tor Project? (Or within Tails)

    Browser. Yes, there are more secure ways, but the browser alone has always apparently worked up until recently.

    Simply using any tool, whether Tor, Tails, a VPN, or anything else, without proper awareness of its limitations, is likely to provide a false sense of security that can make one more vulnerable rather than less.

    Good point. OTOH, everything has limitations, and the worst limitations are the ones that you don’t know about: the “unknown unknowns”. And, at some point, you have to decide how much you are going to curtail your existence for the sake of paranoia, even justified paranoia. (cf. covid lockdowns)

    Every individual needs to determine his threat model and learn what is and what is not realistic.

    Yeah, but most people don’t read fine print and don’t know what a “threat model” is. Bottom line: most people aren’t worried about getting assassinated by the CIA, they just don’t want wokels to derail their life. Two basic principles: prudence and compartmentalization, and a few basic measures: VPN, disfavor woke tech, avoid gratuitous apps, others mentioned upthread, can cut out ninety-odd percent of that risk.

    Keep your crimethought identity and your real identity apart as much as possible: separate accounts, separate browsers, separate software, preferably separate hardware—preferably hardware that doesn’t advertise its location.

    That is generally quite difficult for most people to consistently sustain. And it only takes one slip-up– which is all-too-easy– to dox oneself.

    Yes, but the alternative is not doing it and thereby pre-doxxing yourself.

    Another strong risk factor, one overlooked by many, is how much of a fingerprint one’s particular writing style can leave.

    Yes, writing style, voiceprint, location data, even typing pattern and walking pattern … there are endless ways we are increasingly being unwittingly digitally fingerprinted. But again, what’re ya gonna do about it? Cower in paranoia? Or limit your risk and move forward?

    If you’re not paying for the product (or service), then you are the product. Whether it’s email, hosting, a VPN, etc., all of these services cost money, time and effort to provide. (To say nothing of opening one up to potential liability.) It is extremely rare and unlikely for anyone to bear such costs on behalf of others merely out of altruistic motivations. There’s no free lunch.

    True, and I would add that we all have an interest in supporting those working for privacy and freedom. Cash is still the easiest and most reliable way to move funds privately, even if it is into prepaid credit cards.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @Almost Missouri

    Thank you for the reply.

    Two more questions before retiring from this thread:

    1.) Re: your reporting that Tor Browser had been failing to hide your location from visited sites: Are you sure that you weren't just getting exit nodes in your geographical area? As you likely know, the way Tor works is to continually build and rotate the user between ever-changing circuits. Any Tor user living in a geographical region that Tor nodes are run from, will inevitably at times be connected to some of them. There would only be cause for concern if one were to get such nodes more frequently than other Tor users do.


    Yes, there are more secure ways,
     
    To be clear, my point was that it is actually less secure to use Tor in ways other than via Tor Browser (such as within Brave, as SimpleSong suggested).

    2.) In the archived comment of yours from June 2019 that you linked-to, you had written,


    The VPN will comply and hand over all of your browsing history they have, which at a good VPN should be no more than the last few seconds worth, at most.
     
    What is your basis for trusting any of the claims of any VPN concerning log-keeping? A different commenter in that same thread wrote,

    VPNs probably keep server logs, even ones that claim not to.
     

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  135. @Anonymous
    BTW, for people who miss SSC, a bunch of us who were commenters there made a new forum:

    https://www.datasecretslox.com/

    Replies: @photondancer

    Thank you.

  136. @Almost Missouri
    @Dissident


    Are you using the official Tor Browser from the Tor Project? (Or within Tails)
     
    Browser. Yes, there are more secure ways, but the browser alone has always apparently worked up until recently.

    Simply using any tool, whether Tor, Tails, a VPN, or anything else, without proper awareness of its limitations, is likely to provide a false sense of security that can make one more vulnerable rather than less.
     
    Good point. OTOH, everything has limitations, and the worst limitations are the ones that you don't know about: the "unknown unknowns". And, at some point, you have to decide how much you are going to curtail your existence for the sake of paranoia, even justified paranoia. (cf. covid lockdowns)

    Every individual needs to determine his threat model and learn what is and what is not realistic.
     
    Yeah, but most people don't read fine print and don't know what a "threat model" is. Bottom line: most people aren't worried about getting assassinated by the CIA, they just don't want wokels to derail their life. Two basic principles: prudence and compartmentalization, and a few basic measures: VPN, disfavor woke tech, avoid gratuitous apps, others mentioned upthread, can cut out ninety-odd percent of that risk.


    Keep your crimethought identity and your real identity apart as much as possible: separate accounts, separate browsers, separate software, preferably separate hardware—preferably hardware that doesn’t advertise its location.
     
    That is generally quite difficult for most people to consistently sustain. And it only takes one slip-up– which is all-too-easy– to dox oneself.
     
    Yes, but the alternative is not doing it and thereby pre-doxxing yourself.

    Another strong risk factor, one overlooked by many, is how much of a fingerprint one’s particular writing style can leave.
     
    Yes, writing style, voiceprint, location data, even typing pattern and walking pattern ... there are endless ways we are increasingly being unwittingly digitally fingerprinted. But again, what're ya gonna do about it? Cower in paranoia? Or limit your risk and move forward?

    If you’re not paying for the product (or service), then you are the product. Whether it’s email, hosting, a VPN, etc., all of these services cost money, time and effort to provide. (To say nothing of opening one up to potential liability.) It is extremely rare and unlikely for anyone to bear such costs on behalf of others merely out of altruistic motivations. There’s no free lunch.
     
    True, and I would add that we all have an interest in supporting those working for privacy and freedom. Cash is still the easiest and most reliable way to move funds privately, even if it is into prepaid credit cards.

    Replies: @Dissident

    Thank you for the reply.

    Two more questions before retiring from this thread:

    1.) Re: your reporting that Tor Browser had been failing to hide your location from visited sites: Are you sure that you weren’t just getting exit nodes in your geographical area? As you likely know, the way Tor works is to continually build and rotate the user between ever-changing circuits. Any Tor user living in a geographical region that Tor nodes are run from, will inevitably at times be connected to some of them. There would only be cause for concern if one were to get such nodes more frequently than other Tor users do.

    Yes, there are more secure ways,

    To be clear, my point was that it is actually less secure to use Tor in ways other than via Tor Browser (such as within Brave, as SimpleSong suggested).

    2.) In the archived comment of yours from June 2019 that you linked-to, you had written,

    The VPN will comply and hand over all of your browsing history they have, which at a good VPN should be no more than the last few seconds worth, at most.

    What is your basis for trusting any of the claims of any VPN concerning log-keeping? A different commenter in that same thread wrote,

    VPNs probably keep server logs, even ones that claim not to.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Dissident

    1) I was in a region not known for hosting a lot of exit nodes, yet somehow the end sites (ordinary commercial sites, nothing NSA-tier) seemed to know it. Yes, it could have been coincidence, but it was a heck of a coincidence.

    2) The only known basis for trusting such claims is seeing what happens when they are served a warrant. I've heard of cases going both ways. I think Nord [don't quote me] has shown empty hands to the FBI on this. Others have cooperated, even providing more than was requested.

    There's an idea for $64 website business: tracking the results of VPN warrants and subpoenas. As far as I know, today all one can do is search around the web for anecdotal evidence one way or the other.

  137. @Dissident
    @Almost Missouri

    Thank you for the reply.

    Two more questions before retiring from this thread:

    1.) Re: your reporting that Tor Browser had been failing to hide your location from visited sites: Are you sure that you weren't just getting exit nodes in your geographical area? As you likely know, the way Tor works is to continually build and rotate the user between ever-changing circuits. Any Tor user living in a geographical region that Tor nodes are run from, will inevitably at times be connected to some of them. There would only be cause for concern if one were to get such nodes more frequently than other Tor users do.


    Yes, there are more secure ways,
     
    To be clear, my point was that it is actually less secure to use Tor in ways other than via Tor Browser (such as within Brave, as SimpleSong suggested).

    2.) In the archived comment of yours from June 2019 that you linked-to, you had written,


    The VPN will comply and hand over all of your browsing history they have, which at a good VPN should be no more than the last few seconds worth, at most.
     
    What is your basis for trusting any of the claims of any VPN concerning log-keeping? A different commenter in that same thread wrote,

    VPNs probably keep server logs, even ones that claim not to.
     

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    1) I was in a region not known for hosting a lot of exit nodes, yet somehow the end sites (ordinary commercial sites, nothing NSA-tier) seemed to know it. Yes, it could have been coincidence, but it was a heck of a coincidence.

    2) The only known basis for trusting such claims is seeing what happens when they are served a warrant. I’ve heard of cases going both ways. I think Nord [don’t quote me] has shown empty hands to the FBI on this. Others have cooperated, even providing more than was requested.

    There’s an idea for $64 website business: tracking the results of VPN warrants and subpoenas. As far as I know, today all one can do is search around the web for anecdotal evidence one way or the other.

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