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iSteve commenter Dave Pinsen writes:

Looks like a Target/Police Precinct dichotomy, with the crowd looting the stores mostly black, and the crowd invading the police precinct mostly white trustafarians.

 
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  1. • Replies: @JSQ
    @Cagey Beast

    Tracey is saying what I was thinking: this is by no means an all-black or even majority-black crowd.

    Discontent and anger in 2020 transcend racial borders. America is coming apart at the seams.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Known Fact, @Colin Wright, @Anonymous

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @Cagey Beast

    Looks like a Target/Police Precinct dichotomy, with the crowd looting the stores mostly black, and the crowd invading the police precinct mostly white trustafarians.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @Chrisnonymous, @SunBakedSuburb

    , @Gabe Ruth
    @Cagey Beast

    An interesting development. On the bright side, at least this action can unequivocally condemned by the media.

  2. 3rd or 13th precinct?

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
    @Lurker

    Yeah that immediately came to mind. Film history repeats itself, the first as drama, then as farce.

  3. On the livestream I’m looking at it seems like there are a lot of antifa (white people)

    • Replies: @Jake
    @Anon

    The big money, filthy money Left, which is far being totally Jewish, would have sent in thousands of violent white Leftists who come from all over, Most of those sent would already have experience in such urban warfare in which they know they can get away with almost anything, because we all agree that RACISM and Confederate statues are the enemy.

    The white Left makes blacks act much worse than they already will.

    , @Dani
    @Anon

    Jake, I appreciated what you had to say here. Anymore, with the "state of things" as they've long been, but especially now, having escalated to unprecedented levels, at least it appears this way to me and I am 49. People who should know better have even been falling into certain traps and it's been aggravating the hell out of me. Now, more than ever (lol, I sound like one of their commercials) I feel like it is imperative we keep it as simple as possible as to what is and isn't going on....truth versus BULLSHIT.

  4. Where’s Trump and the National Guard? Or is he generating material for campaign videos in a few months?

    • Replies: @indocon
    @Daniel Williams

    Trump needs to stay back and let this burn for a few more days, then send in the full deployment of US Army, arrest all these white punks and send them to federal jails in the south

    Replies: @J.Ross, @VinnyVette, @botazefa, @Pericles

    , @anon
    @Daniel Williams


    Where’s Trump and the National Guard? Or is he generating material for campaign videos in a few months?
     
    He shouldn't do anything. Let it burn. Let the world see the consequences of diversity and anti-white racist media coverage.
    , @JimDandy
    @Daniel Williams

    Where are liberal complaints that privileged white brats are playing revolutionary larping games---destroying black neighborhoods and then scurrying back to their unscathed hipster habitats?

    Anyway, here's this gem:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/driver-runs-down-protester-george-033001537.html

    , @AnotherDad
    @Daniel Williams


    Where’s Trump and the National Guard? Or is he generating material for campaign videos in a few months?
     
    The mayor and governor are supposed to be able to handle this. Trump's already says he's ready to act upon request.

    But Trump needs to make the political connection with explicit language. Something like:

    "The Democrats/progressives have once again unleashed their street fighting terrorist arm--these black shirted Antifa thugs."
    , @Federalist
    @Daniel Williams


    Where’s Trump and the National Guard?
     
    Be patient. Trump will get to it after he builds the wall, ends birthright citizenship, deports the illegal immigrants, and drains the swamp.
  5. If he didn’t do(99% chance) everyone who repeated this smear needs to be sued in bankruptcy.

    • LOL: BB753
    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @t

    It looked like a classic Antifa move. I can't imagine why a cop would do that.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Old and Grumpy

    , @Arne Pedersen
    @t

    Heia Pederson !Læfse,lutefesk å (Nordlands)bunad all the way !
    In other news :
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    , @George
    @t

    Jacob Pederson Is Not the AutoZone Umbrella Man, St. Paul Police Say


    https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/jacob-pederson-auto-zone-cop-not-umbrella-man/

    , @Alan Mercer
    @t

    Sue Twitter into oblivion. Time and again, courts have ruled that Twitter et al may ban users or otherwise censor content as it is a matter of the company's 1A rights. Putting aside the treatment of companies as people with rights, the precedents establish that speech on Twitter is Twitter's. They are therefore liable here.

    , @ThreeCranes
    @t

    He even wore contact lenses to change his eye color from brown to blue! (not)

    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @t

    Did Pep Boys hire him?

    , @Buck Ransom
    @t

    This seems to be a replay of something that was happening in Paris during the
    Gilets Jaunes protests. There were reports that the violence was being instigated by agents provocateurs affiliated with the police, aided and abetted by Antifa black blocs and urban yoots from the islamicised banlieus. But unlike Paris, the authorities in Minneapolis have not started blowing out the eyes and blowing off the hands of protesters; probably this is because there are no alienated and marginalized working-class whites on the scene at this point.

    , @BB753
    @t

    Hey, don't Boomers use to say that Millenials are lazy and need to be led by proper adults to get anything done! Antifas need adult guidance to show them the way and drag them out of their moms' basements.
    It's probably not this guy, but police "agents provocateurs" are the oldest trick in the book.

  6. There’s no point paying for police in Minneapolis, if they aren’t permitted to do their jobs. The same is probably true for teachers. The taxpayers need to go on a tax strike.

    • Replies: @Tsar Nicholas
    @Nicholas Stix

    There’s no point paying for police in Minneapolis, if they aren’t permitted to do their jobs.

    Murdering a man who did not resist arrest is part of a police officer's duties?

    Replies: @anon, @jack daniels

    , @Jane Plain
    @Nicholas Stix

    You are insane.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

  7. t says:

    I’m Watching the NBC news feed on Youtube and the report just spent in entire commercial break talking causally with an “activist” and tell him he agreed with them. It happened at maybe 11:20 central time if some want to try and find it.

    • Replies: @vhrm
    @t

    Just tuned in to the CBS news and abc news live coverage (via their respective Roku apps) (around 23:00 pacific on Thursday)

    On both the discussion is all basically excusing the violence.

    Blaming it on "built up frustration in the community" and out of towners.

  8. Yeah. Cool. Let the gangs run the ghettos, like the do in Brazil. Let police intrusion into the hood be seen as a fascistic no-no. Give the black underclass self-governance. The rule of law is a construct of white supremacy. Let local tribes mete out justice. Problem solved. Blacks will be so much happier without the existence of police.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @JimDandy

    Good idea as long as the ghettos are sealed off permanently, so that their inhabitants have to face the consequences of their actions. Let ghetto behaviour result in ghetto justice.

    , @bomag
    @JimDandy


    Blacks will be so much happier without the existence of police.
     
    They need to keep the police functions that collect tax money from White people, and enforces the various AA and ghetto lottery stuff. Also, there needs to be enough policing to keep the media delivery of the bad YT narrative in place. It's a "good policing" vs. "bad policing" thing.
  9. Its over. Its like the Rodney King Riots in 1992. That got Bill Clinton elected. Pure and simple.

    Black people riot, burn stuff down, beat down Whites. And Whites surrender and do what they are told.

    That video of police running away is a metaphor for Trump and White America. Heck there may not be a Republican left.

    Its like 9/11 — we got unlimited Muslim immigration, mosques all over the place, the Empire State Building lit up for Eid (what the hell is that Holiday? Its not a real holiday like Christmas and Easter and Halloween).

    • Replies: @Tusk
    @Whiskey

    On the other hand people, including Steve, argue that BLM elected Trump.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Whiskey, @Reg Cæsar, @fnn

    , @Anonymous
    @Whiskey

    This is a net positive for Republicans.

    More of this forces Biden to pick a black VP, which won't help much in a national election. It will likely be, in order of likelihood, (1) Kamala, (2) Val Demings or (3) Michelle Obama as a wild card.

    In normal times, Val Demings could be the law & order sensible black. But she is a total unknown and running a black cop right now will hurt turnout among blacks.

    Biden with a sensible nice white lady VP would be hard to beat, considering Trump's performance in the past few months. But with the emerging Karen meme, a white lady VP will kill black turnout as well. They don't want to be lectured by a white lady for 4 years.

    As far as I'm concerned, let more of these Blue cities go up in flames. It only helps.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Jay Fink, @Buck Ransom, @MEH 0910, @Daniel H

    , @JMcG
    @Whiskey

    1968 DNC.

    , @Anonymous
    @Whiskey

    The long hot summers of the late 60s got Richard Nixon (R) elected.
    But then again we were a different country demographically and culturally; Now the hippie "counter-culture" is the culture, look at all the white ANTIFA nutcases.

    , @JohnPlywood
    @Whiskey

    Did you even pay attention to this post or are you still dissocating from the fact that it was white people who burned down the police station?

    , @e
    @Whiskey

    Are you crazy?

    There isn't anyone in the country that doesn't know MN is lib territory and this is how lib territory ends. In flames.

    Being nice to thugs makes them more thuggish.

    This isn't about whites or blacks--it's about PROGRESSIVES and what they spawn.

    Replies: @Whiskey

    , @AnotherDad
    @Whiskey

    Whiskey, some dude has hacked your handle.

    A few paragraphs, a 100 words and no "white girls" or "white women" hate, hate hating beta white men.

    Bring back the real Whiskey!

    Replies: @Whiskey

    , @ben tillman
    @Whiskey


    Its over. Its like the Rodney King Riots in 1992. That got Bill Clinton elected.
     
    What?
  10. iSteve commenters tend to misunderstand the impact of things like this, especially in its racial terms because that’s where we all tend to believe that we’re all race experts, that we’re the ones who see the negative social impact of the vibrants when everybody else is out trying sell some feelgood bullshit. We know everything already there’s no point in listening to everybody else.

    Blacks behaving badly does tend to motivate voters to vote Republican. But that’s one, among all the things that a voter might consider. And right now, undocumented shopping by vibrants in Minneapolis doesn’t stack up very high compared against a pandemic that threatens everybody’s health and everybody’s livelihood.

    When push comes to shove, Trump and the Trump campaign might be very effective in convincing American that Joe is sleepy and stupid. But it’s not going to help, the voters will vote for him anyway. (If in fact the Presidential race comes down to Trump vs. Biden, and there’s some chance that it won’t imo).

    • Troll: VinnyVette
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Boethiuss


    iSteve commenters tend to misunderstand the impact of things like this, especially in its racial terms because that’s where we all tend to believe that we’re all race experts
     
    Your post didn’t explain what it is that commenters misunderstand.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    , @epebble
    @Boethiuss

    The network evening news today all had various Police Chiefs from all across America making statements that what they saw in Minneapolis is condemnable and not policing. There was no conditional like let's wait for investigation to ascertain facts etc., I have not heard or read a single statement from anybody advocating let's wait before judging. So, this might just be galvanizing moment for America. To what end I don't understand. May be the whole nation is depressed due to Covid.

    Replies: @Boethiuss, @botazefa, @Saxon

    , @sayless
    @Boethiuss

    I see the point you're making, but the pandemic is new, or at least the reaction to this one is new. But black dysfunctionality, violence, destruction of property is an old story and everyone is sick of it. Even Obama was sick of it. He said about the Ferguson riots (or was it Baltimore?) "I've seen this movie before..."

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Boethiuss

    Boethiuss says:
    October 19, 2016 at 11:16 am GMT
    @reiner Tor
    So what if I were you illiterate retard. Trump is still going to lose, and you were the ones who put him there.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1613926

    Boethiuss says:
    October 19, 2016 at 8:28 am GMT • 200 Words
    @Desiderius
    ...First of all, after the election, we’re all going to be despondent, and nobody except Hillary’s transition team is going to be paying attention to politics for a while. And just as important, the top of the ticket is a lost cause so the importance of the downticket races is magnified....
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1613841

    Boethiuss says:
    October 18, 2016 at 8:31 pm GMT • 100 Words
    @Difference Maker
    ... The heart of the matter is accepting responsibility for the failure of the Trump campaign....
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1613241

    Boethiuss says:
    October 17, 2016 at 1:31 pm GMT • 100 Words
    @reiner Tor

    ...No, Trump is going to lose because he’s a shit candidate and a shit person, and ultimately there has to be something about our politics besides adoration for Donald Trump.

    You fucked up, we all have to live with it, and “the GOPe” is going to do as best as they can to get us out of it.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1611552

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    , @Anonymous
    @Boethiuss

    I'm going to go out on a limb here and posit the Historic Deadly Cuomovirus spiel may not fulfill its destiny as the universal miracle Santa Claus issue this year. Not many elected Democrats have demonstrated a pronounced degree of control over it (as distinct from a hopeless thespian tendency for decrying it, that's been common).

    Anyway, when your party's agenda is based on running up the score among the bureaucrat/New Class and ethnic mafia populations in a couple dozen cities it doesn't accrue to the generic brand goodwill in swing states Hillary almost won yet seemed to consider morally suspect somehow

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    , @jack daniels
    @Boethiuss

    Both Biden and Bloomberg said some admirably frank things about minority crime in the past but had to reverse all those positions when running for Pres.

  11. *Louisville demonstrators try to flip police transport truck*Reporter: “This is peaceful..”*Gunfire*#BrionnaTaylor pic.twitter.com/681w0KxI7T— GrantB911 (@GrantB911) May 29, 2020

  12. It’s analogous to the quip “Being a male feminist won’t get you laid”: Being a soft-on-POC-crime white liberal city won’t inhibit your pets from burning your buildings.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  13. So the cop and George Floyd were both bouncers at El Nuevo Rodeo, a trashy Mexican nightclub in Minneapolis?

    I don’t know, man.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Clifford Brown

    And Floyd was a convicted felon with a long criminal record working as a security guard. There’s a section in Bonfire of the Vanities where a judge mentions that most of the black thugs in his criminal courtroom work as security guards.

    , @George
    @Clifford Brown

    'I don’t know, man.'

    George Floyd and officer involved in his death worked security at same club, owner says

    The former owner of a Minneapolis club says the two worked as security up to the end of last year.

    https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/500116-george-floyd-and-officer-involved-in-his-death-worked

    The cop kind of looked zonked out to me. Maybe he was zonked out.

    , @jack daniels
    @Clifford Brown

    I don't know man; the club looks clean and its customers look like happy people dancing. Where's the trashiness?

  14. The Rubicon has now been crossed, the remaining law-abiding citizens have been put on notice. List this among any key historical moments in the past 50+ years of cultural devolution in America.

  15. @t
    If he didn't do(99% chance) everyone who repeated this smear needs to be sued in bankruptcy.

    https://twitter.com/dyllyp/status/1266166402521522176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1266166402521522176&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unz.com%2Fanepigone%2Fdream-lovers-dont-dream-alone%2F

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Arne Pedersen, @George, @Alan Mercer, @ThreeCranes, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Buck Ransom, @BB753

    It looked like a classic Antifa move. I can’t imagine why a cop would do that.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @JimDandy

    Cops have been caught and reported on doing agent provocateur stuff against people so that individuals can be arrested, especially at protests, (hell, that represents the entirety of the FBI's playbook) but not property and not their own police station. Positively identifying a guy that masked up is nonsense. This exists but the BAMN types want to massively over-rely on it as an explanation of all rioting when we have seen too many videos (and unforced admissions from their own mouths) that most rioters really are just criminals having fun.

    , @Old and Grumpy
    @JimDandy

    Cops are not friends of anyone on the right. They are unionized goons who work for the establishment.

    Replies: @JimDandy

  16. @Whiskey
    Its over. Its like the Rodney King Riots in 1992. That got Bill Clinton elected. Pure and simple.

    Black people riot, burn stuff down, beat down Whites. And Whites surrender and do what they are told.

    That video of police running away is a metaphor for Trump and White America. Heck there may not be a Republican left.

    Its like 9/11 -- we got unlimited Muslim immigration, mosques all over the place, the Empire State Building lit up for Eid (what the hell is that Holiday? Its not a real holiday like Christmas and Easter and Halloween).

    Replies: @Tusk, @Anonymous, @JMcG, @Anonymous, @JohnPlywood, @e, @AnotherDad, @ben tillman

    On the other hand people, including Steve, argue that BLM elected Trump.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Tusk

    I think BLM helped Trump enormously.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Whiskey
    @Tusk

    Which data point makes more sense? In 2016 we had sniper fire. No mob to appease. In 1992 we had the mob. Lesson do what Black people order or you burnt out. Vote Dem you don't get hurt.

    That has been the ploy since FDR and Detroit 1943. It always works.

    My guess is total rout like the cops and the Purge movies become reality for Whiteys at Bidens inaugural.

    Replies: @Tusk, @Cloudbuster, @indocon, @ben tillman

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Tusk


    On the other hand people, including Steve, argue that BLM elected Trump.
     
    When homosexual wogs shot up that rave in Paris 4½ years ago, Ann Coulter said that was the day Donald Trump was elected. Turned out she was closer to the truth than anyone else.

    It's not inconceivable that Trump won Minnesota tonight. After all, Hillary did somewhat worse in 2016 than Reagan did in 1984, when he lost.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Grumpy

    , @fnn
    @Tusk

    And what good did that do? The only thing I can think of is that now it's only the insane who mock the idea of "the deep state."

  17. I was reading through Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook by Mark Bray this afternoon.

    The basic thesis is that whites believe that they are superior and because of that they are trying to take over the world. They call this “Fascism” and Jews+POC have a responsibility to tame us and prevent us from creating a world run by Aryans. The anti-fascists are also communists and want a world communist system presumably run by Jews and their POC allies.

    What I find remarkable is that Jews will write books about how whites are taking over the world and that we basically need to be killed to prevent that from happening – and whites will accept it.

    No whites have written one book that says that white supremacy is a conspiracy theory.

    But, if you do the opposite and write books about how Jews are trying to take over the world and “the world conquers” by Louis Marschalko is a good example – those become banned “racist” books.

    Jews have written thousands of books denying that they are taking over the world. Whites have written almost no books denying that they are trying to take over the world – which is a lie that Jews repeat endlessly.

    Fundamentally, we are in an ideological war and we should have delegitimized antifascist groups (as basically anti-white hate groups_, churned out propaganda against Jewish supremacy and against their creation of a POC golem in their attempt to set up a communist slave state.

    Anti-fascism is just opposition to the Jewish NWO agenda. Why has nobody written a book that is designed not just to explain but UNITE all non-jews against the Jewish NWO agenda?

  18. @Cagey Beast
    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1266219812197404672?s=20

    https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1266213127189905410?s=20

    Replies: @JSQ, @Dave Pinsen, @Gabe Ruth

    Tracey is saying what I was thinking: this is by no means an all-black or even majority-black crowd.

    Discontent and anger in 2020 transcend racial borders. America is coming apart at the seams.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @JSQ


    Discontent and anger in 2020 transcend racial borders. America is coming apart at the seams.
     
    George Floyd’s death appears to have been wrongful, but it was not deliberate and it is not indicative of a broader societal or institutional injustice.

    Therefore, the riots are not justifiable.

    Replies: @notsaying, @nokangaroos, @Chrisnonymous, @TheMassageIsTheMedium

    , @Known Fact
    @JSQ

    Not "coming apart." Being methodically torn apart

    , @Colin Wright
    @JSQ

    'Tracey is saying what I was thinking: this is by no means an all-black or even majority-black crowd.

    Discontent and anger in 2020 transcend racial borders. America is coming apart at the seams.'

    Whatever. Hang a representative sample from lamp posts. It'll be educational.

    , @Anonymous
    @JSQ

    Nonsense. The white rioters aren't rioting out of some deep sense of discontent, or even out of genuine outrage at this particular wrongful death. They just wanna have fun LARPing as cool, badass anti-establishment revolutionaries.

    Replies: @John Achterhof, @Anonymous, @S. Anonyia, @Buck Ransom

  19. @Daniel Williams
    Where’s Trump and the National Guard? Or is he generating material for campaign videos in a few months?

    Replies: @indocon, @anon, @JimDandy, @AnotherDad, @Federalist

    Trump needs to stay back and let this burn for a few more days, then send in the full deployment of US Army, arrest all these white punks and send them to federal jails in the south

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @indocon

    This, there are plenty of masked white rioters and they are significant in the riot, the guy smashing the AutoZone windows was a scrawny masked white. Unfortunately Justice Department policy is to not interfere with leftist terrorism, let alone prosecute it, and this policy has only become more serious under Trump.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Jim Christian, @teo toon, @dcthrowback, @Truth

    , @VinnyVette
    @indocon

    White punks?

    , @botazefa
    @indocon


    Trump needs to stay back and let this burn for a few more days, then send in the full deployment of US Army, arrest all these white punks and send them to federal jails in the south
     
    The US Army is not the continental Presidential police force, is it?

    I don't think it is legal to deploy the Army the way you are describing. National Guard yes, Army no. Feds can invade States.

    Am I wrong, indocon?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @huisache, @Stunned Billionaire

    , @Pericles
    @indocon

    The hundreds of antifa arrested at Trump's inauguration were, from what I recall, quietly released a short time after. Just kids, man!

  20. Don’t let Putin divide America like this.

  21. @Tusk
    @Whiskey

    On the other hand people, including Steve, argue that BLM elected Trump.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Whiskey, @Reg Cæsar, @fnn

    I think BLM helped Trump enormously.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @JimDandy

    This is true but I hope this gets rubbed hard into the wet snouts of all the respectable establishmentarians who were happy with not prosecuting leftist terrorists because, after all, BLM just went away. BLM appearing on signs in every city with these disturbances by the way (no one could have foreseen). The point of prosecuting terrorists isn't to pretend we have, like, some sort of institution that like totally investigates and punishes crimes or some junk. The point is all those shadowed losers who want to get famous, who now saw you pat a terrorist on the back and chuckle "now, don't do that again," getting bright, shiny ideas.

  22. @Tusk
    @Whiskey

    On the other hand people, including Steve, argue that BLM elected Trump.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Whiskey, @Reg Cæsar, @fnn

    Which data point makes more sense? In 2016 we had sniper fire. No mob to appease. In 1992 we had the mob. Lesson do what Black people order or you burnt out. Vote Dem you don’t get hurt.

    That has been the ploy since FDR and Detroit 1943. It always works.

    My guess is total rout like the cops and the Purge movies become reality for Whiteys at Bidens inaugural.

    • Replies: @Tusk
    @Whiskey

    There was no mob to appease with BLM? Are you crazy? There were protests across America with riots and looting everytime a black was killed. Obama sanctioned it and people were out for blood. By sniper fire I'm assuming you mean people killing cops, sure, but who knows how this will pan out yet? Protestors trying to break into cash registers and assaulting elderly women in wheelchairs, put that on the front page and Trump is fine.

    , @Cloudbuster
    @Whiskey

    FFS, stop whining and demoralizing all over.

    , @indocon
    @Whiskey

    Whiskey I have read your comments with deep interest or past few years, but I think you were going off the deck here my friend. Who ruled Detroit, Newark, Chicago, Watts when they all had their riots.....democrats. Minneapolis is one of the most democratic metropolitan areas when you include the suburbs, a par with Bay Area. The attorney general is a follower of Louis Farrakhan.

    Replies: @e

    , @ben tillman
    @Whiskey


    Which data point makes more sense? In 2016 we had sniper fire. No mob to appease. In 1992 we had the mob. Lesson do what Black people order or you burnt out.
     
    No, the lesson is that Leftists favor aggressors. Where the government is not out-of-control Leftists, it simply stops the riot with force. Blacks have nothing going for them in Minnesota or any riot other than support from the media and (sometimes) government. This is a riot by the mayor.

    Replies: @Joseph Doaks

  23. White workouts matter.

  24. 𝕎𝕒𝕥𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕥𝕙𝕚𝕤 𝕝𝕚𝕧𝕖 𝕠𝕟 𝕦𝕟𝕚𝕔𝕠𝕣𝕟 𝕣𝕚𝕠𝕥. 𝕃𝕠𝕠𝕜𝕤 𝕞𝕠𝕤𝕥𝕝𝕪 𝕝𝕚𝕜𝕖 𝔸𝕟𝕥𝕚𝕗𝕒. 𝔹𝕦𝕥 𝕙𝕒𝕤 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕗𝕖𝕖𝕝 𝕠𝕗 𝕒 𝕗𝕣𝕒𝕥 𝕡𝕒𝕣𝕥𝕪 𝕨𝕚𝕥𝕙 𝕒 𝕓𝕠𝕟 𝕗𝕚𝕣𝕖.

    𝕄𝕒𝕜𝕖𝕤 𝕞𝕖 𝕥𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕜 𝕠𝕗 𝕔𝕝𝕦𝕖𝕝𝕖𝕤𝕤 𝕜𝕚𝕕𝕤 𝕚𝕟 1968. 𝕋𝕙𝕖𝕪 𝕛𝕦𝕤𝕥 𝕨𝕒𝕟𝕥 𝕥𝕠 𝕡𝕒𝕣𝕥𝕪 𝕓𝕦𝕥 𝕨𝕠𝕦𝕝𝕕 𝕡𝕣𝕖𝕗𝕖𝕣 𝕚𝕗 𝕚𝕥 𝕞𝕖𝕒𝕟𝕥 𝕤𝕠𝕞𝕖𝕥𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕘.

    • Replies: @bruce county
    @Redman

    I posted that feed on a previous Steve post and it died in moderation twice. Maybe i was cutting his grass for this story line. Regardless .. the feed is eye opening to say the least.

  25. Anonymous[346] • Disclaimer says:
    @Boethiuss
    iSteve commenters tend to misunderstand the impact of things like this, especially in its racial terms because that's where we all tend to believe that we're all race experts, that we're the ones who see the negative social impact of the vibrants when everybody else is out trying sell some feelgood bullshit. We know everything already there's no point in listening to everybody else.

    Blacks behaving badly does tend to motivate voters to vote Republican. But that's one, among all the things that a voter might consider. And right now, undocumented shopping by vibrants in Minneapolis doesn't stack up very high compared against a pandemic that threatens everybody's health and everybody's livelihood.

    When push comes to shove, Trump and the Trump campaign might be very effective in convincing American that Joe is sleepy and stupid. But it's not going to help, the voters will vote for him anyway. (If in fact the Presidential race comes down to Trump vs. Biden, and there's some chance that it won't imo).

    Replies: @Anonymous, @epebble, @sayless, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Anonymous, @jack daniels

    iSteve commenters tend to misunderstand the impact of things like this, especially in its racial terms because that’s where we all tend to believe that we’re all race experts

    Your post didn’t explain what it is that commenters misunderstand.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @Anonymous


    Your post didn’t explain what it is that commenters misunderstand.
     
    That they're overestimating the electoral impact of episodes like this one. For example this is part of a comment on this very thread.

    This is a net positive for Republicans.

    ...........

    Biden with a sensible nice white lady VP would be hard to beat, considering Trump’s performance in the past few months. But with the emerging Karen meme, a white lady VP will kill black turnout as well. They don’t want to be lectured by a white lady for 4 years.
     
    I agree that at some level this will be good electorally for Republicans. Unfortunately for now, it's going to be drowned out by other things which are against the GOP, the coronavirus obviously number one.

    Replies: @Ed, @Cloudbuster

  26. The fact is a lot of people don’t like the police nowadays, and it isn’t just antifa and BLM activists. Many people in the law enforcement establishment, from the DoJ/FBI on down, act like arrogant jerks. Not a small number of them are corrupt.

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
    • Replies: @Ian Smith
    @Mr. Anon

    People put up with a certain amount of crap from the police thinking that it’s the price for having someone deal with joggers.

    We’re at a point where defending yourself from blacks is racist, calling the cops on blacks is racist, the very existence of cops is racist, and moving to areas with zero blacks is racist. And all of said areas are being filled with Somali refugees anyway.

    We need racial divorce as Greg Johnson recommended:

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2015/03/irreconcilable-differences/?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=53ee82c52bc0dfbc5b513f1011a9a7c7fdade9b0-1590757643-0-AWtD3LE-pOFVO8wmNb7b6WGdW3yr66uuv-7yLuiRz3-r4mJJXf5V0sRnjxVxnLwQ90AvmzdXVPyEySJFb4SxdznkMXJyZ97Q1PdDdRLIdLK_Fi0bVlGnixy4IGa8sijGnJQLYPneu14S0Rx2MOEP36wcQ1x535j8W-ZgbxRynwWPewn1AIkWrG7mIOhuQaGqkanF3W4uanEI9k9FE8BzpLRN1wr58GjVHL790OVQTzuBU7_U79jreaDz-JzzfU4WsuOxvdB3X8b1LgQoBZDZ-dsgpuvEJq_xk05ZmryOFCM52ZOATjLTvM_g22IKcK7QDg

    Replies: @Truth

    , @VinnyVette
    @Mr. Anon

    Yep! Cop abuse makes no distinction between the races.

  27. Anonymous[346] • Disclaimer says:
    @JSQ
    @Cagey Beast

    Tracey is saying what I was thinking: this is by no means an all-black or even majority-black crowd.

    Discontent and anger in 2020 transcend racial borders. America is coming apart at the seams.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Known Fact, @Colin Wright, @Anonymous

    Discontent and anger in 2020 transcend racial borders. America is coming apart at the seams.

    George Floyd’s death appears to have been wrongful, but it was not deliberate and it is not indicative of a broader societal or institutional injustice.

    Therefore, the riots are not justifiable.

    • Agree: ThreeCranes, ben tillman
    • Troll: Tor597
    • Replies: @notsaying
    @Anonymous

    Not deliberate? How was it not deliberate?

    Are you saying this was an accident?

    Replies: @JimB, @Anonymous, @Jus' Sayin'..., @jb, @AnotherDad

    , @nokangaroos
    @Anonymous

    Nah ... there has to be a more professional (read: idiot-proof) way of subduing large mentally disturbed Obama voters on steroids and PCP; being all dopers with high blood pressure they are susceptible to vagus shocks if you look at them sideways (of course only an utter crétin goes on a rampage in that condition and then resists - but I repeat myself ).

    Once upon a time tasers were the Great White Hope but only further worked into police lazyness and lack of CQ skills - and they are STILL not groid safe.

    Some kind of slime gun, maybe? :D

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Anonymous

    I recognize how this is not valid, but I hope you can see my point: I have never seen a home video of a police officer who responds to an arrestee's complaint by getting off his neck and withstraining him in a different way. That anecdote represents a kind of institutional injustice, although not having anything to do with race.

    We are an overpoliced society--whether you are talking about FISA abuses, buffoonish TSA agents, or wrongful death in course of arrest, the problems stem from inappropriate assumptions in favor of state power over individuals.

    , @TheMassageIsTheMedium
    @Anonymous

    Anyone with half a brain should see that it's a major issue that a policeman can kneel on someone's neck for 10 minutes while the person begs for their life and ends up killing him. Regardless of your opinion on politics. That means the power to murder. Whoever wields that power can inflict great harm on society. That is not something that should be allowed to be unaccountable.

  28. “Can’t believe?” Really? Anyone can’t believe that, in a city strangled by the diversity cult, where the mayor summarily threw (probably bad) cops under the bus without due process in a brainless bid at appeasement, cops would stand down?
    Apparently a local reporter (it’s the fat bald guy in a fleece best) told the rioters that he personally supported their “protest” and thought they were “killing it.” Great choice of words. No city has recovered from a black riot.
    ——
    There’s similar events all over, not necessarily related. Apparently lefties (including the standard literal violent communists like BAMN) were planning to riot this weekend, to ritually acknowledge the warmer weather, but it’s not yet clear if they “got lucky” or were important in getting people out.
    Here in Michigan, near Ann Arbor, a woman and her husband (last name “El”) decided to videotape police arriving at a scene where gunshots had been reported.
    (Maybe this is unrelated but probably not: I’ve been hearing every night gunshots and fireworks, to include the really big nearly municipal grade fireworks, and have witnessed several pyrotechnics just barely clear rooftops because they were fired from two blocks away by amateurs who scattered when I and other annoyed residents approached. People are celebrating the warmer weather stupidly, the gunshots might not have been a [deliberate] shooting.)
    Police asked “El” that she am to leave the scene of a reported shooting for her safety. I don’t need to tell you how she replied. One of the officers apparently punched her in the head (you know, like that Minneapolis old lady who was knocked out of a wheelchair and robbed was punched in the head). This head punching is supposedly the basis of a (told you so, complete failure and abdication of our law talkers) roadblock protest. Remember how lefties were steadily making illegal roadblocks their favorite mode of protest? Remember how the law talker reaction to that was to effectively legalize illegal roadblocks and attacking cars, setting the precedent that you can be sent to prison for the rest of your life if you do what had been at that time the standard and legal response to an illegal roadblock?
    Anyway, apparently this stuff is happening in Colorado as well (and wasn’t there a Minneapolis-support protest in LA?), and where girls have balls:

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @J.Ross


    Downtown denver. Some girl turned around to run this guy over #GeorgeFloyd #icantbreathe #downtowndenver #denver pic.twitter.com/eirohGGPr5

    — Anabel (@bellers03) May 29, 2020
     
    It's not necessarily the case that she tried to run the guy down. A mob of people attacked her car. She might have just been frightened and lost control of the car.

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Redneck farmer, @J.Ross, @Gordo

    , @Anonymous
    @J.Ross


    No city has recovered from a black riot.
     
    Er, is this true? I am asking because I don't know very much about it.
    , @Stan d Mute
    @J.Ross

    I don’t know why this situation would surprise anybody. I predicted it on Day One of the lockdowns - that if they continue until warm weather riots would ensue. That it’s an election year only guaranteed my prophecy would come to pass.

    In re the Ann Arbor mini-riot (https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2020/05/outraged-residents-block-streets-in-protest-over-washtenaw-deputy-accused-of-punching-black-woman.html) - cops had nearly closed US23 at I94 (riot adjacent to US23 and I94 next exit South).

    Wait until the kids in Detriot get going..

    Where this gets interesting is the fact that now we have an extra 41 million plus unemployed and many more in financial hardship with no good prospects for improvement. Whites haven’t been answering riots since Detriot in the 40’s because they’ve thought the government would quell the problems and because they’ve had too much to lose. Today both those mitigating factors have been removed.

    It’s going to be a long and entertaining summer.

    , @ThreeCranes
    @J.Ross

    "the mayor summarily threw (probably bad) cops under the bus"

    When whites presumed guilt it's labeled a lynching. When the "liberal" mayor does it it's retributive Justice.

  29. The police should just leave it alone. Let the National Guard deal with it after a few more days of damage. Unfortunately the federal government always grants these cities hundreds of millions to fix the problems and the grant grifters scam more money to foment more problems.

    Rioters are attacking the Ohio state capital building

  30. @JimDandy
    @Tusk

    I think BLM helped Trump enormously.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    This is true but I hope this gets rubbed hard into the wet snouts of all the respectable establishmentarians who were happy with not prosecuting leftist terrorists because, after all, BLM just went away. BLM appearing on signs in every city with these disturbances by the way (no one could have foreseen). The point of prosecuting terrorists isn’t to pretend we have, like, some sort of institution that like totally investigates and punishes crimes or some junk. The point is all those shadowed losers who want to get famous, who now saw you pat a terrorist on the back and chuckle “now, don’t do that again,” getting bright, shiny ideas.

    • Agree: JimDandy
  31. @JSQ
    @Cagey Beast

    Tracey is saying what I was thinking: this is by no means an all-black or even majority-black crowd.

    Discontent and anger in 2020 transcend racial borders. America is coming apart at the seams.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Known Fact, @Colin Wright, @Anonymous

    Not “coming apart.” Being methodically torn apart

    • Agree: Just another serf
  32. I thought it was all because of racism that’s what the 1619 project told me.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @t


    I think a lot of Americans really don't know how much the American Revolution was precipitated by the Crown's abuse of the policing power against the colonists.
     
    Chris Hayes is right, but the Americans who don't know that aren't the ones he's implying.
  33. @indocon
    @Daniel Williams

    Trump needs to stay back and let this burn for a few more days, then send in the full deployment of US Army, arrest all these white punks and send them to federal jails in the south

    Replies: @J.Ross, @VinnyVette, @botazefa, @Pericles

    This, there are plenty of masked white rioters and they are significant in the riot, the guy smashing the AutoZone windows was a scrawny masked white. Unfortunately Justice Department policy is to not interfere with leftist terrorism, let alone prosecute it, and this policy has only become more serious under Trump.

    • Replies: @Gordo
    @J.Ross


    Unfortunately Justice Department policy is to not interfere with leftist terrorism, let alone prosecute it, and this policy has only become more serious under Trump.
     
    Looks like you are right, when does this change and the bodies of the commies get thrown in the canal? History demands this.

    Replies: @TheMassageIsTheMedium

    , @Jim Christian
    @J.Ross


    This, there are plenty of masked white rioters
     
    Nonsense. I know Hispanics and Iraqis and Libyans from round-eye Whites when I see them. So do you. You don't get to hang one bit of this on Whitey (beyond those asshole cops). There were a number of little yellow people in and out of the Apple Store too. Yeah, we Whites are a riotous lot..
    , @teo toon
    @J.Ross


    scrawny masked white
     
    Scrawny? He is a cop. The kid who tried to stop him and then followed him instinctively knew he was a cop; he has even been outed.
    Just watch the video and observe how the guy walks and stands.

    Replies: @Sam Haysom

    , @dcthrowback
    @J.Ross

    posse comitatus means state governor's can only use the nasty guard unless an act of congress authorizes the use of the (fed) US Army.

    trump has little choice but to roll a blunt and cackle

    , @Truth
    @J.Ross

    LOL! It appears that the clown smashing the windows was an ACTIVE St. Paul Policeman.

    Antifa Left Winger... You betcha!

  34. Anonymous[180] • Disclaimer says:

    Cynical asshole Trump has never lifted a finger to stop antifa.

    Doesn’t care who gets hurt by antifa.

    Because antifa is very very good for Trump.

    (This is more of his False Flag Jujitsu. He could’ve busted antifa a long time ago for traveling across state lines and staging their shit. Easy racketeering takedown. But NOOOO instead Trump sees the benefit of going along with their antics.)

  35. As with the World Trade Center, it was an ugly monstrosity, in this case diluted Brutalist, and I’m glad to see it gone.

    Just not in this fashion. There are protocols for condemnation and proper demolition.

    Across the street is this more welcoming institution:

    A few doors down is the city’s county’s East Lake Library, which is probably still untouched because, you know, ain’t nuthin’ of value in there. In-between was the former Town Talk Diner, where I had my first, and last, Guinness float.

    NB: Should you ever order one of these, either drink it quickly and eat it slowly, or the other way around. Don’t let them infuse each other.

    • LOL: ThreeCranes
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Reg Cæsar

    Wasn't this one meant to be a rather nice, historically tinged = postmodernist building - looking a bit tough and being functional at the same time***?

    *** too many adverse goals to reach either one of them

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Barnard
    @Reg Cæsar

    American Renaissance has had previous reports on the East Library. It was filled with anti-ICE propaganda and according to a since deleted Yelp review, the area homeless used the bathrooms to shoot up drugs without interruption. The looters smashed the windows, but it doesn't appear they stole anything.

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    Guiness should be saved for Evelyn Waugh's "Noonday Reviver". Ice cream should be saved for children.

    , @sayless
    @Reg Cæsar

    Minnehaha Warehouse Liquor looks like a friendly neighborhood place in that photo, but it's been burned.

  36. Anonymous[206] • Disclaimer says:
    @Whiskey
    Its over. Its like the Rodney King Riots in 1992. That got Bill Clinton elected. Pure and simple.

    Black people riot, burn stuff down, beat down Whites. And Whites surrender and do what they are told.

    That video of police running away is a metaphor for Trump and White America. Heck there may not be a Republican left.

    Its like 9/11 -- we got unlimited Muslim immigration, mosques all over the place, the Empire State Building lit up for Eid (what the hell is that Holiday? Its not a real holiday like Christmas and Easter and Halloween).

    Replies: @Tusk, @Anonymous, @JMcG, @Anonymous, @JohnPlywood, @e, @AnotherDad, @ben tillman

    This is a net positive for Republicans.

    More of this forces Biden to pick a black VP, which won’t help much in a national election. It will likely be, in order of likelihood, (1) Kamala, (2) Val Demings or (3) Michelle Obama as a wild card.

    In normal times, Val Demings could be the law & order sensible black. But she is a total unknown and running a black cop right now will hurt turnout among blacks.

    Biden with a sensible nice white lady VP would be hard to beat, considering Trump’s performance in the past few months. But with the emerging Karen meme, a white lady VP will kill black turnout as well. They don’t want to be lectured by a white lady for 4 years.

    As far as I’m concerned, let more of these Blue cities go up in flames. It only helps.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous


    ... a white lady VP will kill black turnout as well.
    They don’t want to be lectured by a white lady for 4 years.
     
    Does anyone?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @fish, @Alfa158

    , @Jay Fink
    @Anonymous

    But would Kamala stimulate black turnout? They sure didn't come out for her during the primaries. Plus being a Prosecutor is a liability to many blacks.

    , @Buck Ransom
    @Anonymous

    More of this forces Biden to pick a black VP, which won’t help much in a national election. It will likely be, in order of likelihood, (1) Kamala, (2) Val Demings or (3) Michelle Obama as a wild card.

    Gropey Uncle Joe is not so weak-minded that he will settle for a Wonder Bread running mate like Kamala or Michelle. No siree, not in the year 2020, that would be total malarkey, knowimsayn?

    Joe's Veep will be unveiled to great fanfare any day now, and it will be none other than Minnesota's own Ilhan Omar. A truly inspired choice who will unite us from sea to shining sea.

    Now don't you go fussin' at me about her supposed birth in Somalia. Ain't nobody got time for that.

    , @MEH 0910
    @Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/TheWeek/status/1266100484215115787

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @res, @AnotherDad, @JimB

    , @Daniel H
    @Anonymous

    This is a net positive for Republicans.

    Why do you give a sh*t about the fate of the Republicans? They are the GREATER problem. If a combination of riots/covid-19/demographics wipes the Republicans out of American politics this November it will be a damn good thing. We can start forming a coalition that will actually do something to challenge leftism.

  37. @JSQ
    @Cagey Beast

    Tracey is saying what I was thinking: this is by no means an all-black or even majority-black crowd.

    Discontent and anger in 2020 transcend racial borders. America is coming apart at the seams.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Known Fact, @Colin Wright, @Anonymous

    ‘Tracey is saying what I was thinking: this is by no means an all-black or even majority-black crowd.

    Discontent and anger in 2020 transcend racial borders. America is coming apart at the seams.’

    Whatever. Hang a representative sample from lamp posts. It’ll be educational.

  38. Tusk says:
    @Whiskey
    @Tusk

    Which data point makes more sense? In 2016 we had sniper fire. No mob to appease. In 1992 we had the mob. Lesson do what Black people order or you burnt out. Vote Dem you don't get hurt.

    That has been the ploy since FDR and Detroit 1943. It always works.

    My guess is total rout like the cops and the Purge movies become reality for Whiteys at Bidens inaugural.

    Replies: @Tusk, @Cloudbuster, @indocon, @ben tillman

    There was no mob to appease with BLM? Are you crazy? There were protests across America with riots and looting everytime a black was killed. Obama sanctioned it and people were out for blood. By sniper fire I’m assuming you mean people killing cops, sure, but who knows how this will pan out yet? Protestors trying to break into cash registers and assaulting elderly women in wheelchairs, put that on the front page and Trump is fine.

  39. Anonymous[145] • Disclaimer says:

    America is hell. And Western Europe is hot on its heels. I thank my lucky stars every day that I’m an Eastern European.

    • LOL: Slimer
    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Anonymous

    Who do you think is worse off? America or Western Europe?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Anonymous, @PSR

  40. @J.Ross
    "Can't believe?" Really? Anyone can't believe that, in a city strangled by the diversity cult, where the mayor summarily threw (probably bad) cops under the bus without due process in a brainless bid at appeasement, cops would stand down?
    Apparently a local reporter (it's the fat bald guy in a fleece best) told the rioters that he personally supported their "protest" and thought they were "killing it." Great choice of words. No city has recovered from a black riot.
    ------
    There's similar events all over, not necessarily related. Apparently lefties (including the standard literal violent communists like BAMN) were planning to riot this weekend, to ritually acknowledge the warmer weather, but it's not yet clear if they "got lucky" or were important in getting people out.
    Here in Michigan, near Ann Arbor, a woman and her husband (last name "El") decided to videotape police arriving at a scene where gunshots had been reported.
    (Maybe this is unrelated but probably not: I've been hearing every night gunshots and fireworks, to include the really big nearly municipal grade fireworks, and have witnessed several pyrotechnics just barely clear rooftops because they were fired from two blocks away by amateurs who scattered when I and other annoyed residents approached. People are celebrating the warmer weather stupidly, the gunshots might not have been a [deliberate] shooting.)
    Police asked "El" that she am to leave the scene of a reported shooting for her safety. I don't need to tell you how she replied. One of the officers apparently punched her in the head (you know, like that Minneapolis old lady who was knocked out of a wheelchair and robbed was punched in the head). This head punching is supposedly the basis of a (told you so, complete failure and abdication of our law talkers) roadblock protest. Remember how lefties were steadily making illegal roadblocks their favorite mode of protest? Remember how the law talker reaction to that was to effectively legalize illegal roadblocks and attacking cars, setting the precedent that you can be sent to prison for the rest of your life if you do what had been at that time the standard and legal response to an illegal roadblock?
    Anyway, apparently this stuff is happening in Colorado as well (and wasn't there a Minneapolis-support protest in LA?), and where girls have balls:
    https://twitter.com/bellers03/status/1266174838374313992

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anonymous, @Stan d Mute, @ThreeCranes

    Downtown denver. Some girl turned around to run this guy over #GeorgeFloyd #icantbreathe #downtowndenver #denver pic.twitter.com/eirohGGPr5

    — Anabel (@bellers03) May 29, 2020

    It’s not necessarily the case that she tried to run the guy down. A mob of people attacked her car. She might have just been frightened and lost control of the car.

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
    @Mr. Anon

    She better hope she never sent her mother a picture of Hitler, otherwise she can expect multiple life sentences.

    , @Redneck farmer
    @Mr. Anon

    I doubt the Denver DA is going to say, "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes". Which should be the response to anyone blocking traffic who gets run over.

    , @J.Ross
    @Mr. Anon

    She turned around and they have a pic of her flipping them off, which is much more than they had with Fields who was not from the area and was trapped by careless/deliberate police blocking into a bad situation.
    https://postimg.cc/DSK5Zkh3

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @Gordo
    @Mr. Anon


    It’s not necessarily the case that she tried to run the guy down. A mob of people attacked her car. She might have just been frightened and lost control of the car.
     
    It depends who the mob is. See Charlottesville for reference.

    Who Whom.
  41. Hilarious. Looks like Trumpstein and the Inner Party need to introduce a MN Security Law similar to the PRC’s HK Security Law to prevent the depredations of arsonist punk rioters…..er democracy activists.

  42. @JimDandy
    Yeah. Cool. Let the gangs run the ghettos, like the do in Brazil. Let police intrusion into the hood be seen as a fascistic no-no. Give the black underclass self-governance. The rule of law is a construct of white supremacy. Let local tribes mete out justice. Problem solved. Blacks will be so much happier without the existence of police.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @bomag

    Good idea as long as the ghettos are sealed off permanently, so that their inhabitants have to face the consequences of their actions. Let ghetto behaviour result in ghetto justice.

  43. Anonymous[211] • Disclaimer says:
    @JSQ
    @Cagey Beast

    Tracey is saying what I was thinking: this is by no means an all-black or even majority-black crowd.

    Discontent and anger in 2020 transcend racial borders. America is coming apart at the seams.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Known Fact, @Colin Wright, @Anonymous

    Nonsense. The white rioters aren’t rioting out of some deep sense of discontent, or even out of genuine outrage at this particular wrongful death. They just wanna have fun LARPing as cool, badass anti-establishment revolutionaries.

    • Replies: @John Achterhof
    @Anonymous

    Ridiculous. Antifa runs on the righteous anger, inculcated by the left in the universities and in the media (such as the Times with their damning 1619 antithesis to America's 1776 identity), that latent fascism is ever-present in America. (One has to admit, in broad consideration of human nature across all societies, there is a measure of truth to the notion - charged in America by the history of slavery.) Their vigilante purpose depends on this belief. They look earnestly for confirmation and opportunity, and wherever fascism in America bursts to the surface they rush to the scene to attack.

    These "antifascists" manage with their fire-in-the-mind ransacking to undermine the cause they purport to serve: there's nothing like the shocking imagery of buildings on fire to persuade the public to the need for Order.

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    The white rioters aren’t rioting out of some deep sense of discontent, or even out of genuine outrage at this particular wrongful death.
     
    Two questions:

    !) Are there any reliable estimates of the ratio of white-to-black rioters in Minneapolis?

    2) Does anyone know offhand what percentage of people in Minnesota are black? I am wondering if there is some sort of known "tipping point" where, if more than X% of the population is black, you can more or less expect something like this to happen.
    , @S. Anonyia
    @Anonymous

    Nah, I think they were cooped up throughout COVID and saw an opportunity to join in on the chaos/plunder. You've got to think many of them probably lost jobs or are furloughed. Also, it helped that masks are socially acceptable...

    , @Buck Ransom
    @Anonymous

    Isn't there just a chance that Antifa is working for the Feds? They run around attacking people, committing vandalism and arson, and yet they are never prosecuted for anything.

    Think of that professor in Berkeley who was caught slamming people over the head with a bike lock wrapped in a scarf. There was video evidence of him in the act, and yet he got off scot-free.

    Maybe the role of Antifa is to create random, senseless chaos to terrify the public. The chaos will then justify the iron boot of the State that is to follow.

  44. @Boethiuss
    iSteve commenters tend to misunderstand the impact of things like this, especially in its racial terms because that's where we all tend to believe that we're all race experts, that we're the ones who see the negative social impact of the vibrants when everybody else is out trying sell some feelgood bullshit. We know everything already there's no point in listening to everybody else.

    Blacks behaving badly does tend to motivate voters to vote Republican. But that's one, among all the things that a voter might consider. And right now, undocumented shopping by vibrants in Minneapolis doesn't stack up very high compared against a pandemic that threatens everybody's health and everybody's livelihood.

    When push comes to shove, Trump and the Trump campaign might be very effective in convincing American that Joe is sleepy and stupid. But it's not going to help, the voters will vote for him anyway. (If in fact the Presidential race comes down to Trump vs. Biden, and there's some chance that it won't imo).

    Replies: @Anonymous, @epebble, @sayless, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Anonymous, @jack daniels

    The network evening news today all had various Police Chiefs from all across America making statements that what they saw in Minneapolis is condemnable and not policing. There was no conditional like let’s wait for investigation to ascertain facts etc., I have not heard or read a single statement from anybody advocating let’s wait before judging. So, this might just be galvanizing moment for America. To what end I don’t understand. May be the whole nation is depressed due to Covid.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @epebble


    The network evening news today all had various Police Chiefs from all across America making statements that what they saw in Minneapolis is condemnable and not policing. There was no conditional like let’s wait for investigation to ascertain facts etc., I have not heard or read a single statement from anybody advocating let’s wait before judging. So, this might just be galvanizing moment for America. To what end I don’t understand. May be the whole nation is depressed due to Covid.
     
    Yeah, we're in a completely different situation now, compared to the same thing happening in January or February. Normie white people are not going to do anything that's perceived to politically empower Trump.
    , @botazefa
    @epebble


    May be the whole nation is depressed due to Covid.
     
    Maybe it is the natural consequence of implementing moronic CDC guidelines and laying off 40 million people.
    , @Saxon
    @epebble

    Yes and the result of this will be a more militarized police that only cracks down on white people who "step out of line" by organizing legit protests against things like destroying monuments to their ancestors, rather than negroes using the death of a career criminal as an excuse to riot, burn, loot, etc. Guarantee you. As long as hostile foreign elites control the levers of power, you will never get anything you want and things will continue to get worse and worse for you and yours.

  45. Is there any particular reason we want to keep this mess of a country together any longer? It’s been obvious for decades that most of us would be happier breaking up into dozens of more manageable countries.

    How can you let rioters take over a police station?

    • Replies: @S
    @Morris Applebaum IV


    How can you let rioters take over a police station?
     
    Speaking of another movie, 1972's Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, I've always thought folks should quietly ask if this is how self declared 'progressives' do indeed see Blacks, as brute beasts, ie 'apes'?

    And, then quietly point out that if the progressive's New England political and spiritual forebears (powerful elements and hangers on of the Anglo-Saxon and Jewish peoples) ran the North American slave trade as dealers, wouldn't it make sense that such a depraved mentality and outlook would think along those lines?

    It's the people that are opposed to where all this is headed, a totalitarian Orwellian police state, that can afford to be civil, and should be. It's the so called progressives who can't, as witnessed by their propensity for extreme violence towards those who are in disagreement with them


    'So Conquest of the Planet of the Apes re-interprets the Watts Riots and other race violence of the 1960s as one possible and even legitimate response to entrenched racial inequality in America. Caesar tells Mr. McDonald that the only means left to him and his people (the apes) is, indeed, revolution. “We cannot be free until we have power. How else can we achieve it?”'
     
    https://johnkennethmuir.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/conquest9.jpg


    https://johnkennethmuir.wordpress.com/2010/01/23/cult-movie-review-conquest-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-1972/

    , @S
    @Morris Applebaum IV


    How can you let rioters take over a police station?
     
    Speaking of another movie, 1972’s Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, I’ve always thought folks should quietly ask if this is how self declared ‘progressives’ do indeed see Blacks, ie as brute beasts?

    And, then quietly point out that if the progressive’s New England political and spiritual forebears (powerful elements and hangers on of the Anglo-Saxon and Jewish peoples) ran the North American slave trade as dealers, wouldn’t it make sense that such a depraved mentality and outlook would think along those lines?

    It’s the people that are opposed to where all this is headed, a totalitarian Orwellian police state, that can afford to be civil, and should be. It’s the so called progressives who can’t, as witnessed by their propensity for extreme violence towards those who are in disagreement with them

    ‘So Conquest of the Planet of the Apes re-interprets the Watts Riots and other race violence of the 1960s as one possible and even legitimate response to entrenched racial inequality in America. Caesar tells Mr. McDonald that the only means left to him and his people (the apes) is, indeed, revolution. “We cannot be free until we have power. How else can we achieve it?”’
     
    https://johnkennethmuir.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/conquest9.jpg


    https://johnkennethmuir.wordpress.com/2010/01/23/cult-movie-review-conquest-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-1972/
  46. You hear the laughter?

    It’s coming from Iran and Russia and all the (many) other nations threatened, attacked, and otherwise slagged by ZOG’s golem. I’ll bet all the USA’s enemies are having parties and toasting this right now.

    Stupid words come back to haunt stupid people, and the stupidest was this:

    If we have to use force, it is because we are America. We are the indispensable nation. We stand tall. We see further into the future.

    Madeleine Albright, February 19, 1998

    The Greeks called it hubris and it always bites the ass that can’t resist falling into it.

    • Troll: Lot
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Franz

    Ah yes, Fairouz, they killed our best general and scuppered the deal which would have saved our economy, but tonight ... tonight ... I dare say that the Great Satan will be forced to abandon the moderately sized midwestern hometown of MST3K! WHO'S LAUGHING NOW?

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Franz


    If we have to use force, it is because we are America. We are the indispensable nation. We stand tall. We see further into the future.

    Madeleine Albright, February 19, 1998
     
    What you mean "we"?

    Replies: @Franz

    , @Anon
    @Franz

    The people burning down the cities are demons and so are you for cheering it on. When you die, you're not going to be judged by what country you're from. Every individual is responsible for their own actions.

    Replies: @Franz

  47. • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @JohnnyWalker123

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3gC0qsC6oA

  48. Anon[254] • Disclaimer says:

    Blue cities being burned up by their favorite grievance groups is simply a matter of deservedly reaping what they sowed. Let them pay the price of their own delusions.

    VP: I seem to remember that Harris was opposed by leftists because she was once a prosecutor, and Law Enforcement == Bad. Ex-cop Demings likewise will be opposed by the party’s large Anarchy Faction. Klobuchar: a white lady ex-DA from MN, new home of anarchy? I doubt it. I would bet on Warren or Abrams.

    • Agree: bruce county
  49. @Redman
    𝕎𝕒𝕥𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕥𝕙𝕚𝕤 𝕝𝕚𝕧𝕖 𝕠𝕟 𝕦𝕟𝕚𝕔𝕠𝕣𝕟 𝕣𝕚𝕠𝕥. 𝕃𝕠𝕠𝕜𝕤 𝕞𝕠𝕤𝕥𝕝𝕪 𝕝𝕚𝕜𝕖 𝔸𝕟𝕥𝕚𝕗𝕒. 𝔹𝕦𝕥 𝕙𝕒𝕤 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕗𝕖𝕖𝕝 𝕠𝕗 𝕒 𝕗𝕣𝕒𝕥 𝕡𝕒𝕣𝕥𝕪 𝕨𝕚𝕥𝕙 𝕒 𝕓𝕠𝕟 𝕗𝕚𝕣𝕖.

    𝕄𝕒𝕜𝕖𝕤 𝕞𝕖 𝕥𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕜 𝕠𝕗 𝕔𝕝𝕦𝕖𝕝𝕖𝕤𝕤 𝕜𝕚𝕕𝕤 𝕚𝕟 1968. 𝕋𝕙𝕖𝕪 𝕛𝕦𝕤𝕥 𝕨𝕒𝕟𝕥 𝕥𝕠 𝕡𝕒𝕣𝕥𝕪 𝕓𝕦𝕥 𝕨𝕠𝕦𝕝𝕕 𝕡𝕣𝕖𝕗𝕖𝕣 𝕚𝕗 𝕚𝕥 𝕞𝕖𝕒𝕟𝕥 𝕤𝕠𝕞𝕖𝕥𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕘.

    Replies: @bruce county

    I posted that feed on a previous Steve post and it died in moderation twice. Maybe i was cutting his grass for this story line. Regardless .. the feed is eye opening to say the least.

  50. • Replies: @J.Ross
    @t

    Did they arrest the people who set the fires? Did they arrest the people who used the riot as a pretext to kidnap that woman? Did they arrest the people who chased them like scared little mice out of their own station? Did they arrest the people who knocked a wheelchair-bound woman onto the ground and beat her?

    , @Bucky
    @t

    Of all things, they arrest a man protecting his property but none of the protestors destroying stuff, even their own police station.

  51. @Cagey Beast
    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1266219812197404672?s=20

    https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1266213127189905410?s=20

    Replies: @JSQ, @Dave Pinsen, @Gabe Ruth

    Looks like a Target/Police Precinct dichotomy, with the crowd looting the stores mostly black, and the crowd invading the police precinct mostly white trustafarians.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @Dave Pinsen

    I noticed the same thing watching the live feeds last night. The white trustafarians (antifa? bored zoomers? agent provocateurs sponsored by bad actors? some mix thereof?) were also the rioters using more organized tactics like pointing blinding lasers at helicopters and police, cutting gas lines, etc. They wore masks. And they were setting off firecrackers near the burning police station. Black rioters were mostly unmasked, appeared to mainly be looting, and there were more of them out during the daytime relative to night, though a few hippie/woke looking blacks were sprinkled into the trustafarian burning police precinct crowd.

    And then there is the question of the gas-mask umbrella-toting white man, alleged to be a St. Paul cop by social media, who broke the windows of the first store to be looted, the Autozone. He also spray-painted something like "free shit zone" on the walls. One of the protestors asked what he was doing and he got angry. What was this guy's motive?

    All odd. And now turns out Chauvin and Floyd worked together as bouncers for a Mexican bar? And the police can arrest a CNN reporter on live tv but can't do anything else to hem in the chaos?

    Something about this is starting to feel rather theatrical. Some bad actors (I really don't know who, I suspect antifa, but I wouldn't rule out foreign intelligence, either) are taking advantage of the anger/protests over a legitimate police brutality incident, and are allowing it to escalate (and even encouraging escalation) for political reasons.

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    Of course. Grabbit versus purpose and cooperation.

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Dave Pinsen

    A lot of young white guys with skinny arms, some wearing black. Antifa jackasses, champions of the pre-1968 negro, seizing on an opportunity.

  52. @Anonymous
    @Boethiuss


    iSteve commenters tend to misunderstand the impact of things like this, especially in its racial terms because that’s where we all tend to believe that we’re all race experts
     
    Your post didn’t explain what it is that commenters misunderstand.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    Your post didn’t explain what it is that commenters misunderstand.

    That they’re overestimating the electoral impact of episodes like this one. For example this is part of a comment on this very thread.

    This is a net positive for Republicans.

    ………..

    Biden with a sensible nice white lady VP would be hard to beat, considering Trump’s performance in the past few months. But with the emerging Karen meme, a white lady VP will kill black turnout as well. They don’t want to be lectured by a white lady for 4 years.

    I agree that at some level this will be good electorally for Republicans. Unfortunately for now, it’s going to be drowned out by other things which are against the GOP, the coronavirus obviously number one.

    • Replies: @Ed
    @Boethiuss

    It very well could turn Minnesota Red. Trump’s tweet about shooting the looters was spot on. Meanwhile the Dems paralyzed by fear over what to do including allowing a police building to burn will only harm them.

    Twitter isn’t real life and folks want to be safe.

    Replies: @anon, @Boethiuss, @Barnard

    , @Cloudbuster
    @Boethiuss

    It's not the red states that have suffered the most under Coronavirus, and it's not Trump's decisions that made things worse, both economically and with regard to disease spread.

    Anyone who blames Trump simply isn't thinking.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

  53. Lot says:

    George Floyd’s history.

    “ Floyd pleaded guilty to the robbery where another suspect posed as a worker for the local water department, wearing a blue uniform in an attempt to gain access to the woman’s home, according to the charging document.

    But when the woman opened the door, she realized he was not with the water department and attempted to close the door, leading to a struggle.

    At that time, a Ford Explorer pulled up to the home and five other males exited the car and went up to the front door.

    The report states the largest of the group, who the victim later identified as Floyd, ‘forced his way inside the residence, placed a pistol against the complainant’s abdomen, and forced her into the living room area of the residence.

    ‘This large suspect then proceeded to search the residence while another armed suspect guarded the complainant, who was struck in the head and sides by this second armed suspect with his pistol while she screamed for help.’

    Not finding any drugs or money at the house, the men took jewelry and the woman’s cell phone and fled in their car. A neighbor who witnessed the robbery took down the car’s license plate number.

    Later, police tracked down the car and found Floyd behind the wheel. He was later identified by the woman as the large suspect who placed a gun against her stomach and forced her into her living room, the document states.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8366533/George-Floyd-moved-Minneapolis-start-new-life-released-prison-Texas.html

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Lot

    Haha. I was wondering when the inevitable criminal records would start to emerge.

    I mean, like Every. Single. Time. Amirite?

    And of course it's the British tabloid press who are magically able to find the public records all the way across the ocean, which somehow eluded all the serried ranks of the US press corps, our self-proclaimed guardians of democracy lol.

    (Not to give the Limecucks too much credit. Even when releasing this key information, they cushion it with the shopworn, "A new start turns to a tragic end ... determined to turn his life around" clichés—in the headline itself! Is it too much to ask that if they can't get some new clichés, they just skip them altogether?)

    Replies: @Rob McX, @snorlax, @Anonymous, @Ganderson

    , @Anonymous
    @Lot


    Later, police tracked down the car and found Floyd behind the wheel. He was later identified by the woman as the large suspect who placed a gun against her stomach and forced her into her living room, the document states.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8366533/George-Floyd-moved-Minneapolis-start-new-life-released-prison-Texas.html
     

    So much for the "Gentle Giant" moniker his wretched, thug-ass family have been parroting on assorted pundit shows. I LOL'ed the first time I heard one of them describe the perp to Don Lemon. I was thinking, "'Gentle Giant' is a somewhat literary term. You dumb hoodrats had to have it explained to you by your handlers before going on the air!"

    So now we have another national Shitty "Black Kabuki" riot, with Antifa incels thrown in just to relieve the monotony, I guess. Their commercial corridors burned and looted. We should rename the city, "New Detroit."

    Stupid, simple-minded primitives egged on by CNN and MSNBC "House Negroes" who don’t have to live in the rubble afterwards. They deserve to be democrats.

    , @Ganderson
    @Lot

    Seems about right. I assumed, with alll the reference to “fresh start” and gentle giant that the guy wasn’t St. Francis of Assisi.
    This all reminiscent of the riots after Justine Diamond’s murder by the cops a couple years ago.... oh wait....

    This all makes me very sad. (And angry, as if I could do anything from 1200 miles away) The Twin Cities was a great place to grow up- I lived there until I was 30 when circumstances sent me east. It pains me to watch my hometown (I grew up just across the Lake St. bridge over the Mississippi in St. Paul.) turn into Baltimore or Detroit.

    , @Ian Smith
    @Lot

    There always turning their lived around.

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Lot

    I knew there was a backstory like this when I heard an acquaintance of Floyd being interviewed yesterday on NPR. He mentioned that Floyd was "getting his life together" (exact words). The woke among us immediately realized that Floyd, if not a career criminal, at least had an extensive history of serious crimes.

    Other code phrases the MSM use are "devoted father", meaning "sired bastards from whose mothers he occasionaly scrounges welfare money" or "studying to be [prestigious occupation]" meaning "living off student loans while matriculating in grievance studies at the local junior college".

  54. @t
    I'm Watching the NBC news feed on Youtube and the report just spent in entire commercial break talking causally with an "activist" and tell him he agreed with them. It happened at maybe 11:20 central time if some want to try and find it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMBUWQ1ipZM

    Replies: @vhrm

    Just tuned in to the CBS news and abc news live coverage (via their respective Roku apps) (around 23:00 pacific on Thursday)

    On both the discussion is all basically excusing the violence.

    Blaming it on “built up frustration in the community” and out of towners.

  55. Rich New Yorkers are already buying Hawaii real estate because we have almost no Covid 19 cases. We are one of the few US cities with no blacks which is going to draw more rich people. I suppose the Ozarks will get an influx too, one of the few whites only parts of the south and you can live real cheap there.

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
    @Haole

    Hawaii is already lost to the left. But, as usual when New Yawkers move to your area, they will bring their bullshit leftist politics with them, so if what you predict about their moving to the Ozarks is true, well then, look out Ozarks, 'cause here come the shitlibs.

  56. Anonymous[280] • Disclaimer says:

    Americans mock police in European countries for being unable to control rioting non-whites, but it seems American police are no more capable of controlling it when it kicks off there.

    A city like Minneapolis on fire is a bad sign for the rest of the US, because this isn’t some shithole like Detroit or St. Louis burning, this is one of the US’s premier cities. It seems to me that the black world is smashing the white world be it in Europe or North America.

  57. @JimDandy
    @t

    It looked like a classic Antifa move. I can't imagine why a cop would do that.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Old and Grumpy

    Cops have been caught and reported on doing agent provocateur stuff against people so that individuals can be arrested, especially at protests, (hell, that represents the entirety of the FBI’s playbook) but not property and not their own police station. Positively identifying a guy that masked up is nonsense. This exists but the BAMN types want to massively over-rely on it as an explanation of all rioting when we have seen too many videos (and unforced admissions from their own mouths) that most rioters really are just criminals having fun.

    • Agree: Chris Mallory, JimDandy
  58. @Anonymous
    @JSQ


    Discontent and anger in 2020 transcend racial borders. America is coming apart at the seams.
     
    George Floyd’s death appears to have been wrongful, but it was not deliberate and it is not indicative of a broader societal or institutional injustice.

    Therefore, the riots are not justifiable.

    Replies: @notsaying, @nokangaroos, @Chrisnonymous, @TheMassageIsTheMedium

    Not deliberate? How was it not deliberate?

    Are you saying this was an accident?

    • Agree: Tor597
    • Replies: @JimB
    @notsaying


    Not deliberate? How was it not deliberate?
     
    Like, why would a cop deliberately kill a man in front of somebody holding a camera? And why would he take 8 minutes to do it? This cop was obviously on some kind of power trip, but based on his personal arrest experience, he probably thought the 250 lbs bar bouncer was faking it. In his position, many officers might have thought the same thing, which explains why his three backup officers did nothing. Obviously the perp had an underlying health condition. And you forgot to ask Anonymous why he thought any riots were justified, given that they destroy your own community. But why should this fuck up be singled out for blowing up America? Here's an equally enraging incident that happened not too long ago in Sonoma Cty, CA. Cops forgot to take a recovered vehicle off the hot sheet and violently arrested the owner, who had asthma. They suffocated him in a choke hold. But since everyone was white in this incident, it all fucking went down the memory hole. The killer cop got fired but not prosecuted. By the way, the reason we have paramilitary cops in the first place are the obscene levels of violent criminality in black communities.

    https://youtu.be/s0yuoYS-nqE

    Replies: @travis, @V. Hickel, @Ben tillman, @John Johnson

    , @Anonymous
    @notsaying


    Not deliberate? How was it not deliberate?

    Are you saying this was an accident?
     
    The police didn’t mean to kill Floyd. So yes, his death was an accident.
    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @notsaying

    Deliberate implies that this cop intended that his actions kill the Negro upon whose neck he was kneeling. I very much doubt this and it would be impossible to prove in a criminal trial. However, one could argue that this cop's actions were reckless to the point of clearly endangering the Negro's life. This seems obvious to me and I'm sure it would be to most juries. The bottom line is that this one cop deserves to be fired from the police force, he deserves to do prison time for some form of homicide (not murder), and he'll probably face civil liabilities that will make the rest of his life an endless misery.

    In other words, he'll force punishment commensurate with that received by this other Minneapolis cop https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/04/30/minnesota-police-officer-convicted-murder-fatal-shooting-australian-woman-who-called/ but for a less egregious violation of police procedures and a homicide far less close to an open execution. I wonder why Minneapolis's White population didn't riot back then, maybe burn down a few KFC's, halal butcher shops, and hair straightening joints?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @jb
    @notsaying

    Not deliberate in the sense that they didn't intend or expect Floyd to die (that much seems obvious), so not 1st or 2nd degree murder. But manslaughter is clearly on the table.

    I do find it absolutely astonishing that a police officer, knowing that he is being videotaped, could be kneeling on the neck of a black man, hear him say "I can't breath! I can't breath!", and not have a little warning sign start flashing in his head saying "uh oh, potential problem!" Maybe they really do do this all the time...?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @AnotherDad
    @notsaying


    Not deliberate? How was it not deliberate?

    Are you saying this was an accident?
     
    The action was intentional, the result was not.

    Lots of things are like this. The guy who is going a 100, weaving in and out of traffic, then has an "accident". The guy who gets plastered and nonetheless drives and has an "accident".

    Lots of intentional actions cause unintentional results. And people need to be held accountable for them--especially when the bad result is reasonably foreseeable, or the action is reckless or illegal.
  59. The mayor just said “brick and morter is not as important as human lives” in other he won’t do anything to stop the looting.

  60. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:

    Blacks burning down black neighborhoods.
    Nicey-nice liberal whites watching their city being trashed by their own radical kids.
    Business men who tolerate and encourage liberal race-baiting politics watching their businesses being destroyed by the Antifa thugs they’ve kowtowed to.
    This is a good thing. The white people of Minneapolis need many more beatings such as this to bring them back to reality.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @anon


    The white people of Minneapolis need many more beatings such as this to bring them back to reality.
     
    Your comment cheers me up. What you say is: There is still hope, right?
  61. @Anonymous
    America is hell. And Western Europe is hot on its heels. I thank my lucky stars every day that I'm an Eastern European.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    Who do you think is worse off? America or Western Europe?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I don't mean this in a disrespectful way but Minneapolis happens in the banlieu every day. America is still a near-paradise as long as you do not live in the parts that are (quick check) literally on fire. Western Europe is garbage for many important reasons, on top of the fact that they are increasingly filling up their smaller space with the firiest one. There were some holdouts who used to talk about how rural England or the French countryside have none of the problems of Paris or London, but that was never true, because most of the problems with Europe are laws or bad rulers. Now they cannot even say that they have escaped diversity. America is so big and rich that even when they are openly sacrificing babies it will be practical to live outside the system.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    , @Anonymous
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Right now, with the exception of France and Sweden (and possibly Belgium), still the US. Long-term (for whatever it's even worth differentiating between degrees of hell on Earth), probably Western Europe. Hard to imagine a more brainwashed and vulnerable native population, and even harder to imagine a more dangerous and parasitic kind of immigration than the one Western Europe is subjected to.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    , @PSR
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I'm not the original poster but I'd say Western Europe, because they arre overrun by Mohammedans who expect to inherit those societies someday by their sheer numbers and when they do, they'll turn those countries into backward, hot messes. On the contrary we have 15-20 million uneducated, but largely passive, illegal immigrants and about 20 million lower-class blacks who are unpedictable at times, but in the long run, bribable.

  62. @Franz
    You hear the laughter?

    It's coming from Iran and Russia and all the (many) other nations threatened, attacked, and otherwise slagged by ZOG's golem. I'll bet all the USA's enemies are having parties and toasting this right now.

    Stupid words come back to haunt stupid people, and the stupidest was this:

    If we have to use force, it is because we are America. We are the indispensable nation. We stand tall. We see further into the future.

    Madeleine Albright, February 19, 1998

     

    The Greeks called it hubris and it always bites the ass that can't resist falling into it.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Almost Missouri, @Anon

    Ah yes, Fairouz, they killed our best general and scuppered the deal which would have saved our economy, but tonight … tonight … I dare say that the Great Satan will be forced to abandon the moderately sized midwestern hometown of MST3K! WHO’S LAUGHING NOW?

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
  63. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Anonymous

    Who do you think is worse off? America or Western Europe?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Anonymous, @PSR

    I don’t mean this in a disrespectful way but Minneapolis happens in the banlieu every day. America is still a near-paradise as long as you do not live in the parts that are (quick check) literally on fire. Western Europe is garbage for many important reasons, on top of the fact that they are increasingly filling up their smaller space with the firiest one. There were some holdouts who used to talk about how rural England or the French countryside have none of the problems of Paris or London, but that was never true, because most of the problems with Europe are laws or bad rulers. Now they cannot even say that they have escaped diversity. America is so big and rich that even when they are openly sacrificing babies it will be practical to live outside the system.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @J.Ross

    You make some good points. Western Europe has higher population density and less space, so it's harder to flee dysfunction. Also, Western Euro countries are much more lightly policed, so a large fraction of the worst people are unjailed and therefore are proudly unruly.

    As bad as it can get in America, you don't really hear about stuff like Rotherham or Cologne.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

  64. Anonymous[268] • Disclaimer says:

    As far as I know, Minneapolis is just about the coldest damn spot in the contiguous USA. Painfully and ridiculously cold in mid winter.
    As a native of London, England, where it hardly ever gets seriously cold in winter, but, nevertheless a hard English winter is tough and demoralising enough – I know enough about cold weather that when, given the choice, I would rather avoid it – I simply cannot understand why most of the world’s tropically adapted people seem to be making a beeline for Minneapolis.

    The unkind might say “it’s just because of the gibs”.

    • Replies: @Stealth
    @Anonymous

    I think Fargo takes that honor. That being said, Minneapolis is a bastard as it pertains to winter weather.

    , @Joe Stalin
    @Anonymous

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or-j5pg9CMM

    , @Redman
    @Anonymous

    Yep. Cold as fuck there.

    I was in Rochester, MN 25 years ago and it was 40 below zero Fahrenheit. Not sure what that is in Celsius. But it’s so cold you can’t have any skin exposed or it becomes frostbit.

    I live in NY where it sometimes (rarely) gets to zero. And that sucks. No idea how anyone can live in MN.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @James B. Shearer, @Dtbb, @Anon, @Jim Don Bob

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Minneapolis has the world's longest skyway system. The blacks, and anyone else, don't have to be outside during the winter months:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_N7U647VQs

  65. @Franz
    You hear the laughter?

    It's coming from Iran and Russia and all the (many) other nations threatened, attacked, and otherwise slagged by ZOG's golem. I'll bet all the USA's enemies are having parties and toasting this right now.

    Stupid words come back to haunt stupid people, and the stupidest was this:

    If we have to use force, it is because we are America. We are the indispensable nation. We stand tall. We see further into the future.

    Madeleine Albright, February 19, 1998

     

    The Greeks called it hubris and it always bites the ass that can't resist falling into it.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Almost Missouri, @Anon

    If we have to use force, it is because we are America. We are the indispensable nation. We stand tall. We see further into the future.

    Madeleine Albright, February 19, 1998

    What you mean “we”?

    • Replies: @Franz
    @Almost Missouri


    What you mean “we”?
     
    She sure didn't mean US taxpayers or any American in uniform. I like how she pretended her family history came as a total shock to her. Hoo-hah!
  66. Is there anything more stupid than Antifa? I mean these morons will riot in support of Blacks and Muslims who would rape them, rob them or slit their throats the moment they are no longer useful. They are not even protesting for their own people. What a sad thing is to be an Antifa. Not to mention their general aspect and hygiene. If i had a son who became Antifa I would kill myself.

    • Replies: @Ray P
    @Dumbo


    If i had a son who became Antifa I would kill myself.
     
    And he'd applaud you for it.
  67. @Daniel Williams
    Where’s Trump and the National Guard? Or is he generating material for campaign videos in a few months?

    Replies: @indocon, @anon, @JimDandy, @AnotherDad, @Federalist

    Where’s Trump and the National Guard? Or is he generating material for campaign videos in a few months?

    He shouldn’t do anything. Let it burn. Let the world see the consequences of diversity and anti-white racist media coverage.

  68. @Tusk
    @Whiskey

    On the other hand people, including Steve, argue that BLM elected Trump.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Whiskey, @Reg Cæsar, @fnn

    On the other hand people, including Steve, argue that BLM elected Trump.

    When homosexual wogs shot up that rave in Paris 4½ years ago, Ann Coulter said that was the day Donald Trump was elected. Turned out she was closer to the truth than anyone else.

    It’s not inconceivable that Trump won Minnesota tonight. After all, Hillary did somewhat worse in 2016 than Reagan did in 1984, when he lost.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    See also, Linh Dinh, “Orlando Shooting Means Trump for President,” June 12, 2016, @ The Unz Review.

    But he also -- unlike Ms. Coulter -- predicted that Trump would prove to be another fake, just like Obama.


    In 2008, Obama was touted as a political outsider who will hose away all of the rot and bloody criminality of the Bush years. He turned out to be a deft move by our ruling class. Though fools still refuse to see it, Obama is a perfect servant of our military banking complex. Now, Trump is being trumpeted as another political outsider.

    A Trump presidency will temporarily appease restless, lower class whites, while serving as a magnet for liberal anger. This will buy our ruling class time as they continue to wage war abroad while impoverishing Americans back home. Like Obama, Trump won’t fulfill any of his election promises, and this, too, will be blamed on bipartisan politics.
     

    One of the most prescient, insightful columns published on this website.
    , @Grumpy
    @Reg Cæsar

    It's possible, but Minnesotans do very strange things. A Lutheran church in St. Paul laid out a table of refreshments for "protesters" in a neighborhood that was on fire last night.

  69. Anonymous[211] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    @Anonymous

    Who do you think is worse off? America or Western Europe?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Anonymous, @PSR

    Right now, with the exception of France and Sweden (and possibly Belgium), still the US. Long-term (for whatever it’s even worth differentiating between degrees of hell on Earth), probably Western Europe. Hard to imagine a more brainwashed and vulnerable native population, and even harder to imagine a more dangerous and parasitic kind of immigration than the one Western Europe is subjected to.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Anonymous


    vulnerable native population
     
    That's a key point. Not only is policing far less strict in Europe, but a lot of ethno-nationalist militia groups (BNP, EDL, etc) have literally have been disarmed or even jailed.

    At least our population is protected by the "thin blue line." Though we have to deal with certain police excesses, from time to time.

    more dangerous and parasitic kind of immigration
     
    True. I also think that Euro Muslims seem to regard native White Euros in a much more predatory way than even American Blacks.
  70. @Reg Cæsar
    As with the World Trade Center, it was an ugly monstrosity, in this case diluted Brutalist, and I'm glad to see it gone.

    Just not in this fashion. There are protocols for condemnation and proper demolition.


    https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3650/3393102868_c4694da83b.jpg


    Across the street is this more welcoming institution:


    https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3420/3393103180_3d3dba32b5.jpg


    A few doors down is the city's county's East Lake Library, which is probably still untouched because, you know, ain't nuthin' of value in there. In-between was the former Town Talk Diner, where I had my first, and last, Guinness float.

    NB: Should you ever order one of these, either drink it quickly and eat it slowly, or the other way around. Don't let them infuse each other.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Barnard, @Chrisnonymous, @sayless

    Wasn’t this one meant to be a rather nice, historically tinged = postmodernist building – looking a bit tough and being functional at the same time***?

    *** too many adverse goals to reach either one of them

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Dieter Kief

    Well, it may not look brutalist, but it sure feels brutalist. I guess you have to be there to get the full effect.


    Never mind "Six Flags". This neighborhood, judging by another nearby, beats that easily:


    Before the City of Minneapolis took control, Bancroft was part of:



    France’s American empire 1680-1763

    Spain’s American empire 1763-1803

    the District of Louisiana 1804-1805

    Louisiana Territory 1805-1812

    Missouri Territory 1812-1821

    Fort Snelling Reservation 1820-1849

    Michigan Territory 1834-1836

    Wisconsin Territory 1836-1838

    Iowa Territory 1838-1846

    Minnesota Territory 1849-1858

    Richfield Township 1858-1867

    Minneapolis Township 1867-1887



    Bancroft was in Ward 11 from 1887 to 1891, Ward 7 from 1891 to 1947, Ward 11 again from 1947 to 1961, and has been in Ward 8 since 1961. Our neighborhood was part of Park District #33 from 1917 to 1963, #35 from 1963 to 1969, and #5 since 1969.

    https://www.bancroftneighborhood.org/bancrofthistory

     

    I don't know if "bikers" on this map refers to motor bikes or to acoustic ones, but extend the Philips/Powderhorn boundary a couple blocks into Longfellow, and you've got the site of the police station. Target is across the street to the north.


    http://stmedia.stimg.co/ctyp_6548314judgempls.jpg?w=800


    My kid was in a Cub Scout pack a few blocks to the south as recently as four years ago. I took him there a lot, sometimes by bus. Can't imagine doing that now. Though the Scouts will have plenty of improvement work to look forward to now.

    Replies: @Elf Himself, @fish

  71. @Lot
    George Floyd’s history.

    “ Floyd pleaded guilty to the robbery where another suspect posed as a worker for the local water department, wearing a blue uniform in an attempt to gain access to the woman’s home, according to the charging document.

    But when the woman opened the door, she realized he was not with the water department and attempted to close the door, leading to a struggle.

    At that time, a Ford Explorer pulled up to the home and five other males exited the car and went up to the front door.

    The report states the largest of the group, who the victim later identified as Floyd, ‘forced his way inside the residence, placed a pistol against the complainant’s abdomen, and forced her into the living room area of the residence.

    ‘This large suspect then proceeded to search the residence while another armed suspect guarded the complainant, who was struck in the head and sides by this second armed suspect with his pistol while she screamed for help.’

    Not finding any drugs or money at the house, the men took jewelry and the woman’s cell phone and fled in their car. A neighbor who witnessed the robbery took down the car’s license plate number.

    Later, police tracked down the car and found Floyd behind the wheel. He was later identified by the woman as the large suspect who placed a gun against her stomach and forced her into her living room, the document states.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8366533/George-Floyd-moved-Minneapolis-start-new-life-released-prison-Texas.html

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Ganderson, @Ian Smith, @Jus' Sayin'...

    Haha. I was wondering when the inevitable criminal records would start to emerge.

    I mean, like Every. Single. Time. Amirite?

    And of course it’s the British tabloid press who are magically able to find the public records all the way across the ocean, which somehow eluded all the serried ranks of the US press corps, our self-proclaimed guardians of democracy lol.

    (Not to give the Limecucks too much credit. Even when releasing this key information, they cushion it with the shopworn, “A new start turns to a tragic end … determined to turn his life around” clichés—in the headline itself! Is it too much to ask that if they can’t get some new clichés, they just skip them altogether?)

    • Agree: Miro23
    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Almost Missouri

    In his last moments he got a taste of the terror he inflicted on his victim during the home invasion. The real scandal is that he was free again at the time of his death.

    , @snorlax
    @Almost Missouri

    To be fair, he had kept out of trouble (legally speaking anyway) since his 2007 incarceration / 2014 release.

    As for the reporter, he/she probably wants to remain employed, and, since it's the UK, a free (wo)man. On that subject, if the DM didn't self-censor it would be banned.

    Also, they want to keep the story+headline "balanced" enough that it gets clicked on and shared by lefties and DRRR types as well as righties.

    Speaking of DRRR types, it's striking that conservative media are in nearly as much of a riot news blackout and what coverage they do have is nearly as euphemism-filled ("protestors") as the MSM.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Anonymous
    @Almost Missouri

    When things are looking really desperate, Americans always blame “the limeys” for their problems as a last ditch attempt to direct the blame away from their own country for the huge racial problems there.

    I see this so often, Americans blame "the Brits" for slavery, for killing the Native Americans, for just about every unsavoury aspect of their history. It's a mystery to me why British people think the Americans are their allies

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Almost Missouri, @Ron Mexico, @AnotherDad, @fatmanscoop, @Joe Stalin

    , @Ganderson
    @Almost Missouri

    You forgot “gentle giant”!

  72. @t
    https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1266185041891164162?

    I thought it was all because of racism that's what the 1619 project told me.

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose

    I think a lot of Americans really don’t know how much the American Revolution was precipitated by the Crown’s abuse of the policing power against the colonists.

    Chris Hayes is right, but the Americans who don’t know that aren’t the ones he’s implying.

  73. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    George Floyd’s history.

    “ Floyd pleaded guilty to the robbery where another suspect posed as a worker for the local water department, wearing a blue uniform in an attempt to gain access to the woman’s home, according to the charging document.

    But when the woman opened the door, she realized he was not with the water department and attempted to close the door, leading to a struggle.

    At that time, a Ford Explorer pulled up to the home and five other males exited the car and went up to the front door.

    The report states the largest of the group, who the victim later identified as Floyd, ‘forced his way inside the residence, placed a pistol against the complainant’s abdomen, and forced her into the living room area of the residence.

    ‘This large suspect then proceeded to search the residence while another armed suspect guarded the complainant, who was struck in the head and sides by this second armed suspect with his pistol while she screamed for help.’

    Not finding any drugs or money at the house, the men took jewelry and the woman’s cell phone and fled in their car. A neighbor who witnessed the robbery took down the car’s license plate number.

    Later, police tracked down the car and found Floyd behind the wheel. He was later identified by the woman as the large suspect who placed a gun against her stomach and forced her into her living room, the document states.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8366533/George-Floyd-moved-Minneapolis-start-new-life-released-prison-Texas.html

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Ganderson, @Ian Smith, @Jus' Sayin'...

    Later, police tracked down the car and found Floyd behind the wheel. He was later identified by the woman as the large suspect who placed a gun against her stomach and forced her into her living room, the document states.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8366533/George-Floyd-moved-Minneapolis-start-new-life-released-prison-Texas.html

    So much for the “Gentle Giant” moniker his wretched, thug-ass family have been parroting on assorted pundit shows. I LOL’ed the first time I heard one of them describe the perp to Don Lemon. I was thinking, “‘Gentle Giant’ is a somewhat literary term. You dumb hoodrats had to have it explained to you by your handlers before going on the air!”

    So now we have another national Shitty “Black Kabuki” riot, with Antifa incels thrown in just to relieve the monotony, I guess. Their commercial corridors burned and looted. We should rename the city, “New Detroit.”

    Stupid, simple-minded primitives egged on by CNN and MSNBC “House Negroes” who don’t have to live in the rubble afterwards. They deserve to be democrats.

  74. I would bet that at least 95 Percent of the black protesters are on some form of welfare and are too lazy to work.
    The white protesters and arsonists may be snowflake college students who now think they are badass revolutionaries like The Guevera or something. I would like to see all those who committed all felony acts to be prosecuted and face long prison terms for domestic terrorism. But I fear most of these criminals will get off Scot free.

  75. S says:
    @Morris Applebaum IV
    Is there any particular reason we want to keep this mess of a country together any longer? It's been obvious for decades that most of us would be happier breaking up into dozens of more manageable countries.

    How can you let rioters take over a police station?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_j8W-SDefU

    Replies: @S, @S

    How can you let rioters take over a police station?

    Speaking of another movie, 1972’s Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, I’ve always thought folks should quietly ask if this is how self declared ‘progressives’ do indeed see Blacks, as brute beasts, ie ‘apes’?

    And, then quietly point out that if the progressive’s New England political and spiritual forebears (powerful elements and hangers on of the Anglo-Saxon and Jewish peoples) ran the North American slave trade as dealers, wouldn’t it make sense that such a depraved mentality and outlook would think along those lines?

    It’s the people that are opposed to where all this is headed, a totalitarian Orwellian police state, that can afford to be civil, and should be. It’s the so called progressives who can’t, as witnessed by their propensity for extreme violence towards those who are in disagreement with them

    ‘So Conquest of the Planet of the Apes re-interprets the Watts Riots and other race violence of the 1960s as one possible and even legitimate response to entrenched racial inequality in America. Caesar tells Mr. McDonald that the only means left to him and his people (the apes) is, indeed, revolution. “We cannot be free until we have power. How else can we achieve it?”’

    https://johnkennethmuir.wordpress.com/2010/01/23/cult-movie-review-conquest-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-1972/

  76. It’s not inconceivable that Trump won Minnesota tonight.

    So what? It’s really irrelevant, if the Minnesotans lose Minneapolis to white flight (60% white now, and probably accelerating from now on). Pandemic panic, economic crisis, race riots. It’s the 60s all over again, but now with whites as a minority in the country. Good luck.

  77. Twitter just censored Trump’s Minneapolis riot tweet.

    • Replies: @notsaying
    @Dave Pinsen

    How did they censor them?

    A reporter read these tweets to the mayor of Minneapolis for his reaction. He didn't mention Twitter doing anything to them.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @snorlax

    , @vhrm
    @Dave Pinsen

    Wow.. the Twitter "safety" team people are REALLY doubling down this week.

    And they MUST know that this will totally Streisand the issue...

    Ugh... Corona-Lockdown was more than enough "interesting times" for me this year.

    Replies: @snorlax

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Dave Pinsen

    Glorifying violence? They're taking the mick, in total opposition mode now. Trump should open a mirror account on Gab!

    It's open war with the media oligarchs. Trump should hold their feet to the fire, but he's surrounded by people who are against him, most of whom he appointed himself.

    , @Mike_from_SGV
    @Dave Pinsen

    Hey Dave I thought you and others were faking the Trump tweet, writing something that a President should say but of course no one of them would in real life … but it's real! So, finally we have a President who _might_ crack down on this domestic terrorism. I do think that if Trump handles this right, he will benefit in November, since Dems are basically the Angry POC Party, and what we see in MPLS represents the Dem future.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    , @VinnyVette
    @Dave Pinsen

    The looting started how many days ago where's the shooting? More Trump empty promises!

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Dave Pinsen

    Earth to Trump: The looting has been going on for three days now.

  78. @Almost Missouri
    @Lot

    Haha. I was wondering when the inevitable criminal records would start to emerge.

    I mean, like Every. Single. Time. Amirite?

    And of course it's the British tabloid press who are magically able to find the public records all the way across the ocean, which somehow eluded all the serried ranks of the US press corps, our self-proclaimed guardians of democracy lol.

    (Not to give the Limecucks too much credit. Even when releasing this key information, they cushion it with the shopworn, "A new start turns to a tragic end ... determined to turn his life around" clichés—in the headline itself! Is it too much to ask that if they can't get some new clichés, they just skip them altogether?)

    Replies: @Rob McX, @snorlax, @Anonymous, @Ganderson

    In his last moments he got a taste of the terror he inflicted on his victim during the home invasion. The real scandal is that he was free again at the time of his death.

  79. Chanhassan, MN. 20 miles from Minneapolis. Superb demographics. $400k…for now. Residential and commercial property values in the Twin Cities will now tank. Manhattan is finished, for Covid reasons. Detroit-ization…but very fast.

    • Replies: @Ho Chi Minh
    @SafeNow

    Chanhassan is where Prince chose to live and record.

  80. 3:30AM — CNN was running live at the scene reports. Now they aren’t. I suspect reports that gas lines at the burning 3rd Precinct may have been cut and there’s explosive material nearby have something to do with CNN’s disappearance from the scene. The Minneapolis Tribune website says protesters are heading for the 4th Precinct and that National Guard troops in armed vehicles had arrived downtown.

    I wonder what will happen at the 4th Precinct?

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @notsaying

    Abandoning police stations to rioters seems like a terrible decision. Probably came from the Mayor, who is openly on the side of the rioters. The retreating police may or may not be able to clear out the armories during the evacuation to keep it from falling into the hands of the rioters, but there's also evidence rooms (every case depending on that evidence is now compromised), police files, communications equipment, and various other things that would be suboptimal to have fall into rioter/antifa hands. Even if the rioters are too dumb to use most of it, it is still a loss to law enforcement. This is aside from the horrible symbolism of Law Enforcement Officers losing their strongpoint to a raggedy mob. Morale boost to rioters; morale depressant to law enforcement.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @Ed, @Jim Christian

  81. @Almost Missouri
    @Lot

    Haha. I was wondering when the inevitable criminal records would start to emerge.

    I mean, like Every. Single. Time. Amirite?

    And of course it's the British tabloid press who are magically able to find the public records all the way across the ocean, which somehow eluded all the serried ranks of the US press corps, our self-proclaimed guardians of democracy lol.

    (Not to give the Limecucks too much credit. Even when releasing this key information, they cushion it with the shopworn, "A new start turns to a tragic end ... determined to turn his life around" clichés—in the headline itself! Is it too much to ask that if they can't get some new clichés, they just skip them altogether?)

    Replies: @Rob McX, @snorlax, @Anonymous, @Ganderson

    To be fair, he had kept out of trouble (legally speaking anyway) since his 2007 incarceration / 2014 release.

    As for the reporter, he/she probably wants to remain employed, and, since it’s the UK, a free (wo)man. On that subject, if the DM didn’t self-censor it would be banned.

    Also, they want to keep the story+headline “balanced” enough that it gets clicked on and shared by lefties and DRRR types as well as righties.

    Speaking of DRRR types, it’s striking that conservative media are in nearly as much of a riot news blackout and what coverage they do have is nearly as euphemism-filled (“protestors”) as the MSM.

    • Agree: Gordo
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @snorlax


    Speaking of DRRR types
     
    As opposed to DRRR&R types, as some of us are.
  82. JimB says:
    @notsaying
    @Anonymous

    Not deliberate? How was it not deliberate?

    Are you saying this was an accident?

    Replies: @JimB, @Anonymous, @Jus' Sayin'..., @jb, @AnotherDad

    Not deliberate? How was it not deliberate?

    Like, why would a cop deliberately kill a man in front of somebody holding a camera? And why would he take 8 minutes to do it? This cop was obviously on some kind of power trip, but based on his personal arrest experience, he probably thought the 250 lbs bar bouncer was faking it. In his position, many officers might have thought the same thing, which explains why his three backup officers did nothing. Obviously the perp had an underlying health condition. And you forgot to ask Anonymous why he thought any riots were justified, given that they destroy your own community. But why should this fuck up be singled out for blowing up America? Here’s an equally enraging incident that happened not too long ago in Sonoma Cty, CA. Cops forgot to take a recovered vehicle off the hot sheet and violently arrested the owner, who had asthma. They suffocated him in a choke hold. But since everyone was white in this incident, it all fucking went down the memory hole. The killer cop got fired but not prosecuted. By the way, the reason we have paramilitary cops in the first place are the obscene levels of violent criminality in black communities.

    • Agree: vhrm, mark green
    • Replies: @travis
    @JimB

    I agree, It seems unlikely the cop killed Floyd on purpose. But he clearly was at fault, although the man may have had a health condition. Maybe the autopsy will reveal evidence which exonerates him.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @V. Hickel
    @JimB

    he also did 5 years for a home invasion and was probably still on parole. he deserves death for the home invasion robbery alone. there is no loss.

    , @Ben tillman
    @JimB

    Great comment. I could not agree more.

    , @John Johnson
    @JimB

    Like, why would a cop deliberately kill a man in front of somebody holding a camera? And why would he take 8 minutes to do it? This cop was obviously on some kind of power trip, but based on his personal arrest experience, he probably thought the 250 lbs bar bouncer was faking it.

    It has already come out that he didn't die of asphyxiation.

    He most likely had a heart attack.

    My guess is that the cop was feeling less than empathetic and felt he wasn't putting enough pressure on his neck to kill him. Even if it was a heart attack he should still get manslaughter. There was no reason to put a knee on his neck.

    The bigger problem I see is with white knight cops that think they can fix these areas. Then they get frustrated with the system and take it out on the perps.

    A lot of these cities are doomed because they are ran by dopey White egalitarians. They would rather burn everything to the ground than admit the unthinkable which is that even internet racial realists are closer to the truth than libs with Phds.

    So a lot of these cops should really just quit and drive trucks. It pays more and there is high demand everywhere. Or at least stop pretending that they can go in like some 90's cop movie and "clean the streets" or something.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  83. @Dave Pinsen
    Twitter just censored Trump's Minneapolis riot tweet.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266231100780744704?s=20

    Replies: @notsaying, @vhrm, @YetAnotherAnon, @Mike_from_SGV, @VinnyVette, @Jus' Sayin'...

    How did they censor them?

    A reporter read these tweets to the mayor of Minneapolis for his reaction. He didn’t mention Twitter doing anything to them.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @notsaying

    Click on the time stamp of the second tweet and you’ll see.

    , @snorlax
    @notsaying

    https://imgur.com/a/cNhYSPJ

    Replies: @Rouetheday, @Charon

  84. @notsaying
    @Dave Pinsen

    How did they censor them?

    A reporter read these tweets to the mayor of Minneapolis for his reaction. He didn't mention Twitter doing anything to them.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @snorlax

    Click on the time stamp of the second tweet and you’ll see.

    • Thanks: notsaying
  85. @notsaying
    @Dave Pinsen

    How did they censor them?

    A reporter read these tweets to the mayor of Minneapolis for his reaction. He didn't mention Twitter doing anything to them.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @snorlax

    • Thanks: notsaying
    • Replies: @Rouetheday
    @snorlax

    This Trump tweet should have read something like this... "As I demonstrated during the pandemic I prefer to let our cities and states set their own policies... so if the mayor of Minneapolis and the Governor of Minnesota are OK with savages burning the Twin Cities to the ground I won't butt in. But, I promise them and all of America that I will strongly resist any attempt by Minnesota's leaders to shake down our nation's taxpayers for the billions of dollars they're going to want to fix their mess".

    Replies: @Truth

    , @Charon
    @snorlax

    According to the WSJ, Twitter blocked Trump's tweets condemning the violence as "glorifying violence."


    Trump condemned violent protesters in Minneapolis in a pair of tweets sent overnight, and said he could deploy the National Guard to “bring the City under control.”

    “These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen,” he wrote. “Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts.”

    Twitter Inc. placed a notice on the tweet and shielded it from view for breaking what the company said are its rules about glorifying violence.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/george-floyd-protests-latest-from-minneapolis-11590756519


     

    Never mind that Twitter runs a million tweets a day glorifying violence against white people...
  86. @Dave Pinsen
    Twitter just censored Trump's Minneapolis riot tweet.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266231100780744704?s=20

    Replies: @notsaying, @vhrm, @YetAnotherAnon, @Mike_from_SGV, @VinnyVette, @Jus' Sayin'...

    Wow.. the Twitter “safety” team people are REALLY doubling down this week.

    And they MUST know that this will totally Streisand the issue…

    Ugh… Corona-Lockdown was more than enough “interesting times” for me this year.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @vhrm


    And they MUST know that this will totally Streisand the issue…
     
    Yes, that's the point. They think (correctly, IMO) that this tweet is damaging to Trump (i.e. "in the public's interest").

    Replies: @Anonymous

  87. I know white Americans are proud of what their ancestors built. If I were a white American, I would be proud, too. I hate to say this, but your country is no longer viable. You hate each other too much. America will have to split into smaller units that are cohesive and put the interests of their own citizens first.

    This is not obvious to Americans who are emotionally bound up with their homeland. To an outsider, it is increasingly undeniable.

    Pity that California will have to go. It’s a beautiful place.

    The liberal whites who live there are used to getting away with being masochists because they live in a white-majority country. When they are a hated minority in California, their sanctimony will come back to bite them.

    It couldn’t happen to nicer people. Build a wall to keep them out of what is left of your country.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @22pp22

    Non-Hispanic whites are already a minority in CA. They haven't even been a plurality for years. Even self-identified whites (i.e. including Hispanics) are well on their way to minority status.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_California#Racial/Ethnic_makeup

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    , @anon
    @22pp22


    I know white Americans are proud of what their ancestors built. If I were a white American, I would be proud, too. I hate to say this, but your country is no longer viable. You hate each other too much. America will have to split into smaller units that are cohesive and put the interests of their own citizens first.
     
    Totally agree. Hopefully, this creates the conversation that needs to be had. I want nothing more than to live in a country with my own people and be ruled by those like myself, people who will establish laws and customs that comport with my tribe's sentiment. For the life of me I can't understand why this doesn't get more traction on the right. Is this not the obvious solution? We clearly aren't voting our way out of this because we don't have the votes anymore; half of our people are brainwashed to hate us and themselves; demographically, the situation worsens as our people die and mass immigration continues unabated (don't kid yourself, they'll never stop it). And we clearly aren't ever going to attract substantially more non-white votes, even with a progressive economic platform; see Bernie Sanders vs. Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden among black voters in South Carolina if you disagree. To say otherwise is to promote a pipe dream.

    Racial disparities are intractable and can only be ameliorated by taking ever more wealth and opportunities from whites. In order to sate the mob, we've discriminated against our own kind: we've promoted sundry conspiracy theories like "institutional bias" and "stereotype threat" to gloss over minority failures; we suffer endless two minutes of hate every election cycle now*; we pay blacks hundreds of billions of dollars in welfare and affirmative action per year; we've discriminated against our own kind in college admissions to admit lower-scoring blacks; we let them have television networks, movies, magazines, colleges, and graduation ceremonies all to their own while we can't even avoid having our pre-established, historical characters stolen and race swapped (black King Arthur / black Achilles) .... the list is endless.

    The results have been disastrous: a skyrocketing suicide rate, hopelessness and despair, the rise of fringe cults like Qanon. How long can this go on as this country diversifies by the day? Have you guys not studied what happened to the whites of Zimbabwe and South Africa? ... or Haiti? Hated racial minorities / market majorities have poor track records over the long term. That's the destiny your children face.

    I think many boomer conservatives have been brainwashed by decades of programing into a dogma of DR3 that won't allow them to process contrary facts. A lot of Millennials, on the other hand, have been indoctrinated by edgy YouTubers and paid gatekeepers like Ben Shapiro to waste their time barking at safe issues such as "muh communism" (a long dead philosophy even the Chinese have abandoned -- thus their national anthem law and nationalism 101 university courses). Result: nothing gets done.

    We may also have to face the possibility that there is no solution within the current system. Maybe whites just aren't smart, selfless, or cohesive enough to fight back. In that case, whites (especially men) should be seeking opportunities to abandon ship before it goes down. Maybe we could go back to Europe or seek employment in Asia or move to a third country that, while liberal, isn't a complete dystopian nightmare -- Australia, New Zealand, Canada?

    This is an issue that more on the right should be talking about instead of avoiding or dismissing with hollow arguments. Coulter, Brimelow, Sailer, Buchanan and others should give this topic serious examination. Everyone needs a backup plan. What's yours? Are they really going to sit around and do nothing until the day (coming soon) when there is a knock on the door and a loud command to come out with their hands up in the air? Or maybe they would rather just complain on the internet because they are older and would like to die in peace.

    A fitting end. Rome gave up that way, too.

    Weren't most of the Revolutionary War figures older people? Both George Washington and Benjamin Franklin died before the year 1800. It's sort of strange how this turned out. The country was founded by old guys and now that same demographic is content to let it burn because it's to much of a hassle to do anything about it.

    *Central Park Karen was accosted by a black man for not having her dog on a leash but remember Barbecue Becky when she accosted blacks for some park ordinance she was actually right about? What's the difference? Difference: we are discriminated against and attacked regardless of what we do.

    #endthehateseparate or #coup&backtoafrica ... or #pleasekindsirsomemore

    Take your pick. Is grilling season really that important?

    Replies: @22pp22

    , @XYZ (no Mr.)
    @22pp22

    Why? Because of these riots? Seriously? Inner city riots -- with the racial component -- are about as American as something can be in this land. And have been around for a long time. George Floyd does look like another Eric Garner though. A needless death for a piddly crime.

    Much more corrosive to America are the actions of the elites. And with weak leadership in Minneapolis (the Republicans need to continuously show the police abandoning the station to the mob), idiotic companies like twitter finally abandoning any pretence of fairness, and BLM and Antifa poised for a national reawakening, things are starting to look much better from my vantage point. I fervently hope BLM and Antifa vigorously exercise their First Amendment rights throughout the rest of this year. And convince the trans community to do the same. Articles in the New York aren't cutting it.

    , @Regret
    @22pp22

    The border with mexico gets a wall. The border with california gets razorwire and machine gun nests.

    , @Anonymous
    @22pp22


    America will have to split into smaller units that are cohesive and put the interests of their own citizens first.

    This is not obvious to Americans who are emotionally bound up with their homeland. To an outsider, it is increasingly undeniable.
     
    Could you flesh out your argument here? What is your reasoning exactly that supports your assertion?

    Replies: @22pp22

    , @epochehusserl
    @22pp22

    But a large percentage of white people don't agree with that because it would be racist so what can the average white person do?

    , @anonn
    @22pp22

    Leftist Californian here: you're right, it's time to break up the USA. I don't want to be in a country with you any more than you want to be in a country with me. Once we stop having to subsidize the red states, stop paying a trillion dollars a year for history's biggest and most worthless military, and stop paying Israel, I'm confident we can build a just and prosperous social democracy.

    Even if I'm wrong and you all are right, and we turn into Brazil, fine.

    Every polity in history comes to an end. This isn't going to get better. Who, besides Israel and defense contractors, is this working for anymore?

    Replies: @True DFL Liberal, @22pp22

    , @Charon
    @22pp22


    I hate to say this, but your country is no longer viable. You hate each other too much.
     
    The Triumph of the Tribe.
  88. @vhrm
    @Dave Pinsen

    Wow.. the Twitter "safety" team people are REALLY doubling down this week.

    And they MUST know that this will totally Streisand the issue...

    Ugh... Corona-Lockdown was more than enough "interesting times" for me this year.

    Replies: @snorlax

    And they MUST know that this will totally Streisand the issue…

    Yes, that’s the point. They think (correctly, IMO) that this tweet is damaging to Trump (i.e. “in the public’s interest”).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @snorlax


    Yes, that’s the point. They think (correctly, IMO) that this tweet is damaging to Trump (i.e. “in the public’s interest”).
     
    What the hell are you smoking?

    They just critically, and inaccurately editorialized the chief law enforcer of the land during a National catastrophe. That makes them a publisher, beyond any reasonable doubt. They just made Trump's job of designating Twitter as a publisher far easier. Anyone who owns twitter stock better dump it in pre-market.

    They’re fucked.

    Say what you want about Zuckerberg. He may be a douche, but he’s not that stupid. He walks lines, but doesn’t cross it and laugh like twitter just did.

    Trump should close his account, and go over to "Gab." Everyone will follow him there. Then proceed with getting Twitter legally designated as a publisher, with all the liability issues that come with it.
  89. @Dieter Kief
    @Reg Cæsar

    Wasn't this one meant to be a rather nice, historically tinged = postmodernist building - looking a bit tough and being functional at the same time***?

    *** too many adverse goals to reach either one of them

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Well, it may not look brutalist, but it sure feels brutalist. I guess you have to be there to get the full effect.

    Never mind “Six Flags”. This neighborhood, judging by another nearby, beats that easily:

    Before the City of Minneapolis took control, Bancroft was part of:

    France’s American empire 1680-1763

    Spain’s American empire 1763-1803

    the District of Louisiana 1804-1805

    Louisiana Territory 1805-1812

    Missouri Territory 1812-1821

    Fort Snelling Reservation 1820-1849

    Michigan Territory 1834-1836

    Wisconsin Territory 1836-1838

    Iowa Territory 1838-1846

    Minnesota Territory 1849-1858

    Richfield Township 1858-1867

    Minneapolis Township 1867-1887

    Bancroft was in Ward 11 from 1887 to 1891, Ward 7 from 1891 to 1947, Ward 11 again from 1947 to 1961, and has been in Ward 8 since 1961. Our neighborhood was part of Park District #33 from 1917 to 1963, #35 from 1963 to 1969, and #5 since 1969.

    https://www.bancroftneighborhood.org/bancrofthistory

    I don’t know if “bikers” on this map refers to motor bikes or to acoustic ones, but extend the Philips/Powderhorn boundary a couple blocks into Longfellow, and you’ve got the site of the police station. Target is across the street to the north.

    My kid was in a Cub Scout pack a few blocks to the south as recently as four years ago. I took him there a lot, sometimes by bus. Can’t imagine doing that now. Though the Scouts will have plenty of improvement work to look forward to now.

    • Replies: @Elf Himself
    @Reg Cæsar

    "Bikers" definitely means non-motorized (with optional, status-displaying spandex); that's the Midtown Greenway.

    , @fish
    @Reg Cæsar


    Though the Scouts will have plenty of improvement work to look forward to now.
     
    Is there a merit badge for learning to operate demolition equipment?
  90. @JimDandy
    Yeah. Cool. Let the gangs run the ghettos, like the do in Brazil. Let police intrusion into the hood be seen as a fascistic no-no. Give the black underclass self-governance. The rule of law is a construct of white supremacy. Let local tribes mete out justice. Problem solved. Blacks will be so much happier without the existence of police.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @bomag

    Blacks will be so much happier without the existence of police.

    They need to keep the police functions that collect tax money from White people, and enforces the various AA and ghetto lottery stuff. Also, there needs to be enough policing to keep the media delivery of the bad YT narrative in place. It’s a “good policing” vs. “bad policing” thing.

  91. @t
    If he didn't do(99% chance) everyone who repeated this smear needs to be sued in bankruptcy.

    https://twitter.com/dyllyp/status/1266166402521522176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1266166402521522176&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unz.com%2Fanepigone%2Fdream-lovers-dont-dream-alone%2F

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Arne Pedersen, @George, @Alan Mercer, @ThreeCranes, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Buck Ransom, @BB753

  92. @snorlax
    @Almost Missouri

    To be fair, he had kept out of trouble (legally speaking anyway) since his 2007 incarceration / 2014 release.

    As for the reporter, he/she probably wants to remain employed, and, since it's the UK, a free (wo)man. On that subject, if the DM didn't self-censor it would be banned.

    Also, they want to keep the story+headline "balanced" enough that it gets clicked on and shared by lefties and DRRR types as well as righties.

    Speaking of DRRR types, it's striking that conservative media are in nearly as much of a riot news blackout and what coverage they do have is nearly as euphemism-filled ("protestors") as the MSM.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Speaking of DRRR types

    As opposed to DRRR&R types, as some of us are.

  93. @22pp22
    I know white Americans are proud of what their ancestors built. If I were a white American, I would be proud, too. I hate to say this, but your country is no longer viable. You hate each other too much. America will have to split into smaller units that are cohesive and put the interests of their own citizens first.

    This is not obvious to Americans who are emotionally bound up with their homeland. To an outsider, it is increasingly undeniable.

    Pity that California will have to go. It's a beautiful place.

    The liberal whites who live there are used to getting away with being masochists because they live in a white-majority country. When they are a hated minority in California, their sanctimony will come back to bite them.

    It couldn't happen to nicer people. Build a wall to keep them out of what is left of your country.

    Replies: @snorlax, @anon, @XYZ (no Mr.), @Regret, @Anonymous, @epochehusserl, @anonn, @Charon

    Non-Hispanic whites are already a minority in CA. They haven’t even been a plurality for years. Even self-identified whites (i.e. including Hispanics) are well on their way to minority status.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_California#Racial/Ethnic_makeup

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @snorlax

    Just yesterday I found out that another long-time CA family is leaving for Idaho. White conservative Christians, of course.

    Also yesterday, an old friend from way back talked about his CA exit plan and his worry that he won't get a good price for his real estate. White conservative, but this time a total atheist and rather crazy. Idaho may not want him.

  94. @notsaying
    3:30AM -- CNN was running live at the scene reports. Now they aren't. I suspect reports that gas lines at the burning 3rd Precinct may have been cut and there's explosive material nearby have something to do with CNN's disappearance from the scene. The Minneapolis Tribune website says protesters are heading for the 4th Precinct and that National Guard troops in armed vehicles had arrived downtown.

    I wonder what will happen at the 4th Precinct?

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Abandoning police stations to rioters seems like a terrible decision. Probably came from the Mayor, who is openly on the side of the rioters. The retreating police may or may not be able to clear out the armories during the evacuation to keep it from falling into the hands of the rioters, but there’s also evidence rooms (every case depending on that evidence is now compromised), police files, communications equipment, and various other things that would be suboptimal to have fall into rioter/antifa hands. Even if the rioters are too dumb to use most of it, it is still a loss to law enforcement. This is aside from the horrible symbolism of Law Enforcement Officers losing their strongpoint to a raggedy mob. Morale boost to rioters; morale depressant to law enforcement.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Almost Missouri


    Abandoning police stations to rioters seems like a terrible decision.

     

    Exactly.

    Last year the HK protests, which initially were mostly peaceful and had widespread support, turned into riots in one fateful night, i.e. July 1st, when organized, antifa-style thugs broke into the HK Legislative Council building, and trashed the very chamber in which Legco deliberates.

    Hundreds of rioters were wandering around inside the building for hours, smashing the hell out of everything, right on live TV. The cops could have sealed off the doors and hauled in the whole lot, but they were called off.

    It was the equivalent of the Capitol Building in Washington DC being overrun and vandalized, and then there being no consequences whatever for nearly all of those involved.

    This pusillanimous signal opened the door to eight months of relentless rioting and destruction, which was cooled off only by the outbreak of COVID-19.

    The moral of the story: sometimes rioting doesn't just 'burn out' on its own. The MSP police are sending a terrible signal tonight; let's hope the bill to be paid for it isn't too steep.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jonathan Mason, @Anonymous, @Thea, @Chrisnonymous, @notsaying, @anon, @Stebbing Heuer

    , @Ed
    @Almost Missouri

    The mayor gave the order for the police to stand down at the precinct. Here’s him responding to Trump, weak is an understatement:

    https://twitter.com/bylizsawyer/status/1266257642508349441?s=21

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anonymous, @Ganderson, @Hypnotoad666, @peterike, @Anonymous, @Menschmaschine, @Dieter Kief

    , @Jim Christian
    @Almost Missouri


    The retreating police may or may not be able to clear out the armories during the evacuation to keep it from falling into the hands of the rioters, but there’s also evidence rooms (every case depending on that evidence is now compromised)
     
    I've been in a few police stations in my day, small-town types in suburban DC. Evidence rooms and armories in those stations are akin to hardened Federal SCIFs. Entry and exit is controlled, no one in or out without credentials. Evidence rooms aren't going to be compromised, at least no one has mentioned that tidbit and besides, police stations feed their evidence out to central evidence holding facilities that are convenient to courts and prosecutors and the chain is verified every step of the way. As for weapons, there were no marauders holding up the looted spoils of the arms stores from the 3rd precinct on this one. Something tells me at the first resistance to entry anywhere in the building, they would have moved on because once inside, they'd have to assume there would be folks along to chase them out or arrest them. There is going to be some very good photo evidence of the entrants to that building, too. They can make some very serious prosecutions in this if they choose to.

    If they do not, then we'll know THAT particular part of civilization is lost. If you as political leaders of a city abandon the very center of law and order to the mobs, one has to ask what the personal property and lives of the civilians who run stores and shops could possibly mean to the 'leadership' of the city? Zero. Another city, abandoned. The folks who lost their stores aren't rebuilding. They'll just build another suburb.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  95. Can the Man not even acknowledge the agency of the block bodied protesters even as they cry for help by burning down a building? Notice the passive voice, “Fires have been started.”

  96. @Mr. Anon
    @J.Ross


    Downtown denver. Some girl turned around to run this guy over #GeorgeFloyd #icantbreathe #downtowndenver #denver pic.twitter.com/eirohGGPr5

    — Anabel (@bellers03) May 29, 2020
     
    It's not necessarily the case that she tried to run the guy down. A mob of people attacked her car. She might have just been frightened and lost control of the car.

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Redneck farmer, @J.Ross, @Gordo

    She better hope she never sent her mother a picture of Hitler, otherwise she can expect multiple life sentences.

  97. Anonymous[710] • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri
    @Lot

    Haha. I was wondering when the inevitable criminal records would start to emerge.

    I mean, like Every. Single. Time. Amirite?

    And of course it's the British tabloid press who are magically able to find the public records all the way across the ocean, which somehow eluded all the serried ranks of the US press corps, our self-proclaimed guardians of democracy lol.

    (Not to give the Limecucks too much credit. Even when releasing this key information, they cushion it with the shopworn, "A new start turns to a tragic end ... determined to turn his life around" clichés—in the headline itself! Is it too much to ask that if they can't get some new clichés, they just skip them altogether?)

    Replies: @Rob McX, @snorlax, @Anonymous, @Ganderson

    When things are looking really desperate, Americans always blame “the limeys” for their problems as a last ditch attempt to direct the blame away from their own country for the huge racial problems there.

    I see this so often, Americans blame “the Brits” for slavery, for killing the Native Americans, for just about every unsavoury aspect of their history. It’s a mystery to me why British people think the Americans are their allies

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Anonymous

    710, Google Invasion of Normandy. As good a place as any to start.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous

    I'm not doing this, nor have I seen any other American do this.

    As I think was clear, I insulted the Daily Mail for using the most hackneyed cliches in the American journalistic lexicon.

    , @Ron Mexico
    @Anonymous

    Well, on the two specifics you mentioned, yes, the Brits are to be blamed far more than the "United States."

    , @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous

    I see this so often, Americans blame “the Brits” for slavery, for killing the Native Americans, for just about every unsavoury aspect of their history. It’s a mystery to me why British people think the Americans are their allies.
     

    Weird comment. I've lived in America 60+ and basically never heard this in the context you imply. People will point out that the slave trade was long ongoing European colonial thing not specifically an American thing. (I'd point out it has been a human universal since the neolithic. People with power use slavery or serfdom or taxation to live large on other people's labor.) But Americans understand that their ancestors were precisely some the European people involved. Nothing anti-Brit about it. And no one blames the Brits for killing native Americans. Any of that before 1776 was precisely the Brits--and others--who became Americans.

    Almost's "limecucks" comment was precisely on the other side of the ledger. That the Brits have lost their self-confidence, their pride, their will and are letting themselves get steamrolled by this sort of "slavery!" "colonialism!" b.s.

    , @fatmanscoop
    @Anonymous


    When things are looking really desperate, Americans always blame “the limeys” for their problems as a last ditch attempt to direct the blame away from their own country for the huge racial problems there.
     
    Absolute nonsense
    , @Joe Stalin
    @Anonymous

    " It’s a mystery to me why British people think the Americans are their allies."

    Same here in the USA when I watch the BBC television news. Can't wait for the smearing of the USA which ALWAYS includes 'fact checking' POTUS to show what idiots Yankees are.

    I like calling the BBC the "Black News" because of their amazing numbers of Third-world stories, as compared the the German DW where whitey seems to the main coverage. Of course, it's hard to beat RT when it comes to being Whitey stories.

  98. @Almost Missouri
    @notsaying

    Abandoning police stations to rioters seems like a terrible decision. Probably came from the Mayor, who is openly on the side of the rioters. The retreating police may or may not be able to clear out the armories during the evacuation to keep it from falling into the hands of the rioters, but there's also evidence rooms (every case depending on that evidence is now compromised), police files, communications equipment, and various other things that would be suboptimal to have fall into rioter/antifa hands. Even if the rioters are too dumb to use most of it, it is still a loss to law enforcement. This is aside from the horrible symbolism of Law Enforcement Officers losing their strongpoint to a raggedy mob. Morale boost to rioters; morale depressant to law enforcement.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @Ed, @Jim Christian

    Abandoning police stations to rioters seems like a terrible decision.

    Exactly.

    Last year the HK protests, which initially were mostly peaceful and had widespread support, turned into riots in one fateful night, i.e. July 1st, when organized, antifa-style thugs broke into the HK Legislative Council building, and trashed the very chamber in which Legco deliberates.

    Hundreds of rioters were wandering around inside the building for hours, smashing the hell out of everything, right on live TV. The cops could have sealed off the doors and hauled in the whole lot, but they were called off.

    It was the equivalent of the Capitol Building in Washington DC being overrun and vandalized, and then there being no consequences whatever for nearly all of those involved.

    This pusillanimous signal opened the door to eight months of relentless rioting and destruction, which was cooled off only by the outbreak of COVID-19.

    The moral of the story: sometimes rioting doesn’t just ‘burn out’ on its own. The MSP police are sending a terrible signal tonight; let’s hope the bill to be paid for it isn’t too steep.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    ... is there really any doubt about who the antifa-style thugs were?

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    It was the equivalent of the Capitol Building in Washington DC being overrun and vandalized, and then there being no consequences whatever for nearly all of those involved.
     
    Could be, but I suspect that the modern policing way of dealing with riots is to let them run their course, monitor everything on cameras, preserve lives as much as possible, then track down the ringleaders later and arrest them at their homes at 5:00 a.m when no one is watching.

    That seemed to be how it went down initially with the London riots of 2011 from August 6th to August 11th after police shot and killed a local gangster who had just taken delivery of a handgun from an informer. The riots then spread to a dozen other cities.

    Then the police started to fight back. See graphic below.

    By August 15th 3,100 people had been arrested and charged with offenses ranging from receiving stolen goods to inciting riots on Facebook (sentenced to 4 years). By August 2012, 1292 rioters had been handed custodial sentences totaling 1,800 years at 16.8 months on an average.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots#Arrests_and_charges

    With the lock down, Covid-19, unemployment, and all, people have been waiting for some excuse to cut loose in a Summer of Discontent, and now there is one that everyone can take part in, whether as a political agitator or as a street gang member, casual looter, or even as a vigilante. Let the mischief begin.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023874/UK-riots-2011-16k-police-ready-use-plastic-bullets-lid-Londons-looters.html

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/10/article-2023874-0D5F467E00000578-318_964x1454.jpg

    Replies: @Neuday, @YetAnotherAnon, @Znzn, @Joe Stalin, @Corvinus

    , @Anonymous
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    The moral of the story: sometimes rioting doesn’t just ‘burn out’ on its own. The MSP police are sending a terrible signal tonight; let’s hope the bill to be paid for it isn’t too steep.
     
    Is the black population in MSP large enough to cause any widespread or enduring civil unrest problem? I tend to doubt it.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Thea
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    That is why China will win.

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Are you going to exit HK at some point or be a Calvinist martyr and stay?

    , @notsaying
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Isn't the Communist Chinese government to blame for what the protesters did?

    If they didn't try to take people's freedoms away the protesters wouldn't have been out.

    You sound like you support the government. I can't say I support the fires and the violence but I do support freedom for both Hong Kong and China. I am against the Communists.

    , @anon
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Chinese media is drawing a quick parallel between HK and MN riots:

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1189945.shtml

    , @Stebbing Heuer
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    Hundreds of rioters were wandering around inside the building for hours, smashing the hell out of everything, right on live TV. The cops could have sealed off the doors and hauled in the whole lot, but they were called off.

     

    Oh wow. I can't imagine why.

    You're not cynical enough.
  99. Right now a case is being assembled that these two guys knew each other — apparently they were both working security at the same club for a long time. Furthermore the “killer” is married to an Asian and brought her whole family over. If that case pans out then this was not racism or mistrained police brutality at all, this was a personal grudge between two enemies with a private beef. The officer was abusing his authority and reacting to some other past provocation, but he was not operating under dangerously militarized mis-training or prejudicially reacting to skin color. This is really great news. It would mean that BLM has nothing to say here. It’s like trying to presuppose that Jewish Donald Sterling is a Klansman based on a conversation he had with his black lover permitting her to cheat on him with black men.
    Sure is good for Antifa that the fires were lit before this could be publicized. Gotta work fast.

  100. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @snorlax
    @vhrm


    And they MUST know that this will totally Streisand the issue…
     
    Yes, that's the point. They think (correctly, IMO) that this tweet is damaging to Trump (i.e. "in the public's interest").

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Yes, that’s the point. They think (correctly, IMO) that this tweet is damaging to Trump (i.e. “in the public’s interest”).

    What the hell are you smoking?

    They just critically, and inaccurately editorialized the chief law enforcer of the land during a National catastrophe. That makes them a publisher, beyond any reasonable doubt. They just made Trump’s job of designating Twitter as a publisher far easier. Anyone who owns twitter stock better dump it in pre-market.

    They’re fucked.

    Say what you want about Zuckerberg. He may be a douche, but he’s not that stupid. He walks lines, but doesn’t cross it and laugh like twitter just did.

    Trump should close his account, and go over to “Gab.” Everyone will follow him there. Then proceed with getting Twitter legally designated as a publisher, with all the liability issues that come with it.

  101. @t
    They arrested a business owner for shooting a looter.

    https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/05/28/east-lake-street-business-owner-under-arrest-after-1-man-killed-by-gunfire-during-george-floyd-protests/

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Bucky

    Did they arrest the people who set the fires? Did they arrest the people who used the riot as a pretext to kidnap that woman? Did they arrest the people who chased them like scared little mice out of their own station? Did they arrest the people who knocked a wheelchair-bound woman onto the ground and beat her?

  102. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Almost Missouri


    Abandoning police stations to rioters seems like a terrible decision.

     

    Exactly.

    Last year the HK protests, which initially were mostly peaceful and had widespread support, turned into riots in one fateful night, i.e. July 1st, when organized, antifa-style thugs broke into the HK Legislative Council building, and trashed the very chamber in which Legco deliberates.

    Hundreds of rioters were wandering around inside the building for hours, smashing the hell out of everything, right on live TV. The cops could have sealed off the doors and hauled in the whole lot, but they were called off.

    It was the equivalent of the Capitol Building in Washington DC being overrun and vandalized, and then there being no consequences whatever for nearly all of those involved.

    This pusillanimous signal opened the door to eight months of relentless rioting and destruction, which was cooled off only by the outbreak of COVID-19.

    The moral of the story: sometimes rioting doesn't just 'burn out' on its own. The MSP police are sending a terrible signal tonight; let's hope the bill to be paid for it isn't too steep.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jonathan Mason, @Anonymous, @Thea, @Chrisnonymous, @notsaying, @anon, @Stebbing Heuer

    … is there really any doubt about who the antifa-style thugs were?

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @J.Ross


    … is there really any doubt about who the antifa-style thugs were?

     

    No -- and yes.

    The hard core of the protesters have been easy to identify since the early days of the riots.

    But they're not the only ones getting involved and arrested. Hong Kong school kids -- lots from ages 12-17 -- have been drawn into it by appeals to their idealism and naivete, by pressure, and in plenty of cases by payment. These kids of course want to fit in with and impress their leaders, so they've learned and implemented antifa-style tactics themselves.

    As the unrest here starts to ramp up again as the virus scare is ending, the police tactics are much more straightforward: arrests are being made early in any 'protest' gathering, and lots of these kids are getting hauled in. It's hard to say what's going to happen to them in the long run.

  103. @Dave Pinsen
    Twitter just censored Trump's Minneapolis riot tweet.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266231100780744704?s=20

    Replies: @notsaying, @vhrm, @YetAnotherAnon, @Mike_from_SGV, @VinnyVette, @Jus' Sayin'...

    Glorifying violence? They’re taking the mick, in total opposition mode now. Trump should open a mirror account on Gab!

    It’s open war with the media oligarchs. Trump should hold their feet to the fire, but he’s surrounded by people who are against him, most of whom he appointed himself.

  104. @snorlax
    @notsaying

    https://imgur.com/a/cNhYSPJ

    Replies: @Rouetheday, @Charon

    This Trump tweet should have read something like this… “As I demonstrated during the pandemic I prefer to let our cities and states set their own policies… so if the mayor of Minneapolis and the Governor of Minnesota are OK with savages burning the Twin Cities to the ground I won’t butt in. But, I promise them and all of America that I will strongly resist any attempt by Minnesota’s leaders to shake down our nation’s taxpayers for the billions of dollars they’re going to want to fix their mess”.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Rouetheday

    Yeah, that would grow his alpha-male reputation (rolls eyes).

  105. anon[128] • Disclaimer says:
    @22pp22
    I know white Americans are proud of what their ancestors built. If I were a white American, I would be proud, too. I hate to say this, but your country is no longer viable. You hate each other too much. America will have to split into smaller units that are cohesive and put the interests of their own citizens first.

    This is not obvious to Americans who are emotionally bound up with their homeland. To an outsider, it is increasingly undeniable.

    Pity that California will have to go. It's a beautiful place.

    The liberal whites who live there are used to getting away with being masochists because they live in a white-majority country. When they are a hated minority in California, their sanctimony will come back to bite them.

    It couldn't happen to nicer people. Build a wall to keep them out of what is left of your country.

    Replies: @snorlax, @anon, @XYZ (no Mr.), @Regret, @Anonymous, @epochehusserl, @anonn, @Charon

    I know white Americans are proud of what their ancestors built. If I were a white American, I would be proud, too. I hate to say this, but your country is no longer viable. You hate each other too much. America will have to split into smaller units that are cohesive and put the interests of their own citizens first.

    Totally agree. Hopefully, this creates the conversation that needs to be had. I want nothing more than to live in a country with my own people and be ruled by those like myself, people who will establish laws and customs that comport with my tribe’s sentiment. For the life of me I can’t understand why this doesn’t get more traction on the right. Is this not the obvious solution? We clearly aren’t voting our way out of this because we don’t have the votes anymore; half of our people are brainwashed to hate us and themselves; demographically, the situation worsens as our people die and mass immigration continues unabated (don’t kid yourself, they’ll never stop it). And we clearly aren’t ever going to attract substantially more non-white votes, even with a progressive economic platform; see Bernie Sanders vs. Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden among black voters in South Carolina if you disagree. To say otherwise is to promote a pipe dream.

    Racial disparities are intractable and can only be ameliorated by taking ever more wealth and opportunities from whites. In order to sate the mob, we’ve discriminated against our own kind: we’ve promoted sundry conspiracy theories like “institutional bias” and “stereotype threat” to gloss over minority failures; we suffer endless two minutes of hate every election cycle now*; we pay blacks hundreds of billions of dollars in welfare and affirmative action per year; we’ve discriminated against our own kind in college admissions to admit lower-scoring blacks; we let them have television networks, movies, magazines, colleges, and graduation ceremonies all to their own while we can’t even avoid having our pre-established, historical characters stolen and race swapped (black King Arthur / black Achilles) …. the list is endless.

    The results have been disastrous: a skyrocketing suicide rate, hopelessness and despair, the rise of fringe cults like Qanon. How long can this go on as this country diversifies by the day? Have you guys not studied what happened to the whites of Zimbabwe and South Africa? … or Haiti? Hated racial minorities / market majorities have poor track records over the long term. That’s the destiny your children face.

    I think many boomer conservatives have been brainwashed by decades of programing into a dogma of DR3 that won’t allow them to process contrary facts. A lot of Millennials, on the other hand, have been indoctrinated by edgy YouTubers and paid gatekeepers like Ben Shapiro to waste their time barking at safe issues such as “muh communism” (a long dead philosophy even the Chinese have abandoned — thus their national anthem law and nationalism 101 university courses). Result: nothing gets done.

    We may also have to face the possibility that there is no solution within the current system. Maybe whites just aren’t smart, selfless, or cohesive enough to fight back. In that case, whites (especially men) should be seeking opportunities to abandon ship before it goes down. Maybe we could go back to Europe or seek employment in Asia or move to a third country that, while liberal, isn’t a complete dystopian nightmare — Australia, New Zealand, Canada?

    This is an issue that more on the right should be talking about instead of avoiding or dismissing with hollow arguments. Coulter, Brimelow, Sailer, Buchanan and others should give this topic serious examination. Everyone needs a backup plan. What’s yours? Are they really going to sit around and do nothing until the day (coming soon) when there is a knock on the door and a loud command to come out with their hands up in the air? Or maybe they would rather just complain on the internet because they are older and would like to die in peace.

    A fitting end. Rome gave up that way, too.

    Weren’t most of the Revolutionary War figures older people? Both George Washington and Benjamin Franklin died before the year 1800. It’s sort of strange how this turned out. The country was founded by old guys and now that same demographic is content to let it burn because it’s to much of a hassle to do anything about it.

    *Central Park Karen was accosted by a black man for not having her dog on a leash but remember Barbecue Becky when she accosted blacks for some park ordinance she was actually right about? What’s the difference? Difference: we are discriminated against and attacked regardless of what we do.

    #endthehateseparate or #coup&backtoafrica … or #pleasekindsirsomemore

    Take your pick. Is grilling season really that important?

    • Agree: Rob McX
    • Replies: @22pp22
    @anon

    New Zealand and Australia are on the same path as the US. The only difference is that the US is further along the road to perdition.

    The big issue over here is China. Americans are used to being the top-dog super-power, and it makes them feel invulnerable. America is not perfect, but it's the least dreadful top-dog superpower the rest of the world can hope for.

    Australia and New Zealand are not super-powers and we don't feel invulnerable. As America retreats and China advances, we will either surrender completely or fight back. It could go either way.

    I groan with despair when I hear people talk about China as peaceful. I have a PhD in Asian history and China's history is as blood-drenched as anyone else's - of not more so. When America was fighting the civil war, millions upon millions of Chinese were dying in the Taiping Rebellion (maybe as many as fifty million). Liberal, well-educated Westerners have never even heard of it. Most of my students had never even heard of the Cultural Revolution, but they knew all about Jim Crow.

    Replies: @Daniel H, @Harry Baldwin

  106. @Mr. Anon
    @J.Ross


    Downtown denver. Some girl turned around to run this guy over #GeorgeFloyd #icantbreathe #downtowndenver #denver pic.twitter.com/eirohGGPr5

    — Anabel (@bellers03) May 29, 2020
     
    It's not necessarily the case that she tried to run the guy down. A mob of people attacked her car. She might have just been frightened and lost control of the car.

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Redneck farmer, @J.Ross, @Gordo

    I doubt the Denver DA is going to say, “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes”. Which should be the response to anyone blocking traffic who gets run over.

  107. @Almost Missouri
    @Franz


    If we have to use force, it is because we are America. We are the indispensable nation. We stand tall. We see further into the future.

    Madeleine Albright, February 19, 1998
     
    What you mean "we"?

    Replies: @Franz

    What you mean “we”?

    She sure didn’t mean US taxpayers or any American in uniform. I like how she pretended her family history came as a total shock to her. Hoo-hah!

  108. @Boethiuss
    @Anonymous


    Your post didn’t explain what it is that commenters misunderstand.
     
    That they're overestimating the electoral impact of episodes like this one. For example this is part of a comment on this very thread.

    This is a net positive for Republicans.

    ...........

    Biden with a sensible nice white lady VP would be hard to beat, considering Trump’s performance in the past few months. But with the emerging Karen meme, a white lady VP will kill black turnout as well. They don’t want to be lectured by a white lady for 4 years.
     
    I agree that at some level this will be good electorally for Republicans. Unfortunately for now, it's going to be drowned out by other things which are against the GOP, the coronavirus obviously number one.

    Replies: @Ed, @Cloudbuster

    It very well could turn Minnesota Red. Trump’s tweet about shooting the looters was spot on. Meanwhile the Dems paralyzed by fear over what to do including allowing a police building to burn will only harm them.

    Twitter isn’t real life and folks want to be safe.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Ed


    It very well could turn Minnesota Red.
     
    I personally think that's optimistic. Elections are now racial headcounts, and they have more their side. Hillary beat Trump by millions of popular votes despite BLM. Biden, a stronger candidate, will win by even more and carry the electoral college. We've moved beyond the point where issues decide elections. It's all tribal now. I could see enough good whites and non-whites banding together to defeat Trump in a landslide and then, after assuming office, seeking racial revenge against their enemies. This isn't 1980 anymore.
    , @Boethiuss
    @Ed


    It very well could turn Minnesota Red. Trump’s tweet about shooting the looters was spot on. Meanwhile the Dems paralyzed by fear over what to do including allowing a police building to burn will only harm them.
     
    In another world it just might. But in this world white people already know what they think about Trump, and the Republican Party with Trump as its leader, and the answer isn't very good. Riots or no riots, there no reason to change their mind.

    Replies: @e, @Anonymous, @vinteuil

    , @Barnard
    @Ed

    Nearly everyone who cares about law and order already votes Republican. An increasing number of them do so with extreme reluctance because of the worthless nature of the Republican party. Based on what people are posting online, the riots aren't changing the minds of very many blank slaters who think we can all live in peace and harmony.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  109. All is fair in love and war.

  110. @Whiskey
    Its over. Its like the Rodney King Riots in 1992. That got Bill Clinton elected. Pure and simple.

    Black people riot, burn stuff down, beat down Whites. And Whites surrender and do what they are told.

    That video of police running away is a metaphor for Trump and White America. Heck there may not be a Republican left.

    Its like 9/11 -- we got unlimited Muslim immigration, mosques all over the place, the Empire State Building lit up for Eid (what the hell is that Holiday? Its not a real holiday like Christmas and Easter and Halloween).

    Replies: @Tusk, @Anonymous, @JMcG, @Anonymous, @JohnPlywood, @e, @AnotherDad, @ben tillman

    1968 DNC.

  111. White Antifa: Don’t blame me, I voted for Kangz!

  112. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    @Tusk


    On the other hand people, including Steve, argue that BLM elected Trump.
     
    When homosexual wogs shot up that rave in Paris 4½ years ago, Ann Coulter said that was the day Donald Trump was elected. Turned out she was closer to the truth than anyone else.

    It's not inconceivable that Trump won Minnesota tonight. After all, Hillary did somewhat worse in 2016 than Reagan did in 1984, when he lost.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Grumpy

    See also, Linh Dinh, “Orlando Shooting Means Trump for President,” June 12, 2016, @ The Unz Review.

    But he also — unlike Ms. Coulter — predicted that Trump would prove to be another fake, just like Obama.

    In 2008, Obama was touted as a political outsider who will hose away all of the rot and bloody criminality of the Bush years. He turned out to be a deft move by our ruling class. Though fools still refuse to see it, Obama is a perfect servant of our military banking complex. Now, Trump is being trumpeted as another political outsider.

    A Trump presidency will temporarily appease restless, lower class whites, while serving as a magnet for liberal anger. This will buy our ruling class time as they continue to wage war abroad while impoverishing Americans back home. Like Obama, Trump won’t fulfill any of his election promises, and this, too, will be blamed on bipartisan politics.

    One of the most prescient, insightful columns published on this website.

    • Agree: notsaying
  113. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    Hmm… seems a bit unnecessarily racist to me…

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BubetteS/status/1266036930245877760

  114. Anonymous[739] • Disclaimer says:

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Have Michael Moore and Tiny ever been seen in the same room together? I wonder...

    , @Rob McX
    @Anonymous

    He's right. Let blacks police themselves and leave Whitey out of it.

  115. @Almost Missouri
    @notsaying

    Abandoning police stations to rioters seems like a terrible decision. Probably came from the Mayor, who is openly on the side of the rioters. The retreating police may or may not be able to clear out the armories during the evacuation to keep it from falling into the hands of the rioters, but there's also evidence rooms (every case depending on that evidence is now compromised), police files, communications equipment, and various other things that would be suboptimal to have fall into rioter/antifa hands. Even if the rioters are too dumb to use most of it, it is still a loss to law enforcement. This is aside from the horrible symbolism of Law Enforcement Officers losing their strongpoint to a raggedy mob. Morale boost to rioters; morale depressant to law enforcement.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @Ed, @Jim Christian

    The mayor gave the order for the police to stand down at the precinct. Here’s him responding to Trump, weak is an understatement:

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Ed

    Mayor Frey is Jewish.

    Judging by this photo and this photo alone.

    , @anonymous
    @Ed

    Even the podium smack was lame. Like a chorus lineman's failed audition for a speaking part.

    , @Ganderson
    @Ed

    Is he crying?

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Ed

    Wow. Frey makes Justin Trudeau seem like a tough guy.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @peterike
    @Ed

    Is Frey gay? He's certainly womanly, with his little bitch voice.

    I see a lot of white virtue signalers on social media. It's one of those times to scrupulously avoid social media. White people just love beating on other white people.

    Meanwhile, Trump was discussing what could be an "enhanced" hurricane season (sure, whatever), and in a meeting with officials said this:

    “So you think we can have a slightly enhanced hurricane season? That’s just what we want, that’s just what we want,” Trump said to officials gathered in the Oval Office.

    No doubt the press is reporting this as "Trump says he wants terrible hurricane season to kill thousands!"

    , @Anonymous
    @Ed


    The mayor gave the order for the police to stand down at the precinct. Here’s him responding to Trump, weak is an understatement:
     
    What I liked most about his fiery rebuttal was his passionate spontaneity.

    Remember back when Billy Jack made him drive his own corvette into the lake?

    https://youtu.be/DmQ81r11gc0
    , @Menschmaschine
    @Ed

    He is Jewish. So from his ethnical point of view he does not show weakness, quite the contrary.

    , @Dieter Kief
    @Ed

    I mean, he sure behaves and talks nice and all. If only he would not look like somebody who is acting for some split seconds - that ruins pretty much everything.

  116. @t
    They arrested a business owner for shooting a looter.

    https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/05/28/east-lake-street-business-owner-under-arrest-after-1-man-killed-by-gunfire-during-george-floyd-protests/

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Bucky

    Of all things, they arrest a man protecting his property but none of the protestors destroying stuff, even their own police station.

  117. @Mr. Anon
    @J.Ross


    Downtown denver. Some girl turned around to run this guy over #GeorgeFloyd #icantbreathe #downtowndenver #denver pic.twitter.com/eirohGGPr5

    — Anabel (@bellers03) May 29, 2020
     
    It's not necessarily the case that she tried to run the guy down. A mob of people attacked her car. She might have just been frightened and lost control of the car.

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Redneck farmer, @J.Ross, @Gordo

    She turned around and they have a pic of her flipping them off, which is much more than they had with Fields who was not from the area and was trapped by careless/deliberate police blocking into a bad situation.
    https://postimg.cc/DSK5Zkh3

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @J.Ross

    I don't see anything intrinsically wrong with flipping off people who are mobbing your car. The idiot who jumped on the hood of her car was out in traffic. If he got hit, it's his own damned fault.

  118. anon[755] • Disclaimer says:

    The regressive left, after sparking a riot with their racist media coverage (WHITE kills BLACK headlines), has now reverted back to the prehistory concept of offering ritual sacrifice to appease the angry gods:

    Good citizens burning down the evil police precinct in MN after all police were out & safe. All police should go home. No violence please. Police HQ must be demolished by the city tomorrow as a show of contrition to black America. Rebuild PD with decent kind ppl aka ppl of color

    — Michael Moore (@MMFlint) May 29, 2020

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @anon

    755, Thanks for the Michael Moore tweet. If all this racial animosity could be ended by one white throwing himself into a volcano do you think Moore would offer himself up?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    , @HammerJack
    @anon

    Wait a minute, is that really Michael Moore or is that TD.

    , @AnotherDad
    @anon

    Good citizens burning down the evil police precinct in MN after all police were out & safe. All police should go home. No violence please. Police HQ must be demolished by the city tomorrow as a show of contrition to black America. Rebuild PD with decent kind ppl aka ppl of color

    — Michael Moore (@MMFlint) May 29, 2020

     

    As an act of contrition for white America's sins, we offer up Michael Moore for a big black BBQ.

    (Black folks note: i realize this is a crappy piece of meat, you're getting, so it will require long slow cooking to be palatable. But ... you've got guys who can do that, and do it well.)

    Replies: @anon

  119. But as always, some people get what they want (Department of Pouring Gas on Fires):

    Actress Frances Fisher called for a “race war” against white people

    http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61476

    Actress Frances Fisher called for a “race war” against white people in response to George Floyd’s death and said she is on team “#BlackLivesMatter.”

    Fisher, who identifies as Jewish, tweeted Tuesday: “They want a race war. We’ll give them a race war. I’m with #BlackLivesMatter. We will win.

    Someone needs to clue this dumb cupcake: We’ve been at this war for generations. Except it wasn’t whites that wanted it.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Franz

    OK Frances, if you're sure that's what you want.

  120. anon[943] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ed
    @Boethiuss

    It very well could turn Minnesota Red. Trump’s tweet about shooting the looters was spot on. Meanwhile the Dems paralyzed by fear over what to do including allowing a police building to burn will only harm them.

    Twitter isn’t real life and folks want to be safe.

    Replies: @anon, @Boethiuss, @Barnard

    It very well could turn Minnesota Red.

    I personally think that’s optimistic. Elections are now racial headcounts, and they have more their side. Hillary beat Trump by millions of popular votes despite BLM. Biden, a stronger candidate, will win by even more and carry the electoral college. We’ve moved beyond the point where issues decide elections. It’s all tribal now. I could see enough good whites and non-whites banding together to defeat Trump in a landslide and then, after assuming office, seeking racial revenge against their enemies. This isn’t 1980 anymore.

  121. @J.Ross
    @indocon

    This, there are plenty of masked white rioters and they are significant in the riot, the guy smashing the AutoZone windows was a scrawny masked white. Unfortunately Justice Department policy is to not interfere with leftist terrorism, let alone prosecute it, and this policy has only become more serious under Trump.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Jim Christian, @teo toon, @dcthrowback, @Truth

    Unfortunately Justice Department policy is to not interfere with leftist terrorism, let alone prosecute it, and this policy has only become more serious under Trump.

    Looks like you are right, when does this change and the bodies of the commies get thrown in the canal? History demands this.

    • Replies: @TheMassageIsTheMedium
    @Gordo

    It will happen, but not in the way they think. Black hostility against whites may be at an all-time high right now. The 80 IQ black mobs may not make a difference between white cops and white Antifa.

  122. @22pp22
    I know white Americans are proud of what their ancestors built. If I were a white American, I would be proud, too. I hate to say this, but your country is no longer viable. You hate each other too much. America will have to split into smaller units that are cohesive and put the interests of their own citizens first.

    This is not obvious to Americans who are emotionally bound up with their homeland. To an outsider, it is increasingly undeniable.

    Pity that California will have to go. It's a beautiful place.

    The liberal whites who live there are used to getting away with being masochists because they live in a white-majority country. When they are a hated minority in California, their sanctimony will come back to bite them.

    It couldn't happen to nicer people. Build a wall to keep them out of what is left of your country.

    Replies: @snorlax, @anon, @XYZ (no Mr.), @Regret, @Anonymous, @epochehusserl, @anonn, @Charon

    Why? Because of these riots? Seriously? Inner city riots — with the racial component — are about as American as something can be in this land. And have been around for a long time. George Floyd does look like another Eric Garner though. A needless death for a piddly crime.

    Much more corrosive to America are the actions of the elites. And with weak leadership in Minneapolis (the Republicans need to continuously show the police abandoning the station to the mob), idiotic companies like twitter finally abandoning any pretence of fairness, and BLM and Antifa poised for a national reawakening, things are starting to look much better from my vantage point. I fervently hope BLM and Antifa vigorously exercise their First Amendment rights throughout the rest of this year. And convince the trans community to do the same. Articles in the New York aren’t cutting it.

  123. @Mr. Anon
    @J.Ross


    Downtown denver. Some girl turned around to run this guy over #GeorgeFloyd #icantbreathe #downtowndenver #denver pic.twitter.com/eirohGGPr5

    — Anabel (@bellers03) May 29, 2020
     
    It's not necessarily the case that she tried to run the guy down. A mob of people attacked her car. She might have just been frightened and lost control of the car.

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Redneck farmer, @J.Ross, @Gordo

    It’s not necessarily the case that she tried to run the guy down. A mob of people attacked her car. She might have just been frightened and lost control of the car.

    It depends who the mob is. See Charlottesville for reference.

    Who Whom.

  124. Well…. Donald Jerusalem Trump will be re-elected.

  125. OT (or not) CNN reporting staff arrested by Minn. State Police in real time live on camera.

  126. At least they are wearing masks.

  127. The best part of the chimpout is Woke Capital like Target and Mickey Deendu’s getting targeted.

    Anyway:

    The actuality is that there have never been any worthy societies that didn’t enforce any and all forms of segregation (barring from jobs, designated living areas, etc.) and the necessary brutality to keep outsiders behaved (destroying Jews for example). Muricans like posters above just live in denial of the Way of Nature (where the likes of wolf packs aren’t brothers to each-other).

    All of liberalism, being rooted in a monsterous hodgepodge of the likes of Abrahamism and Anglo fantasies like “The Individual” can be summarized as defiance of the proper order. This proper order requires homogenity and segregation.

  128. @Boethiuss
    iSteve commenters tend to misunderstand the impact of things like this, especially in its racial terms because that's where we all tend to believe that we're all race experts, that we're the ones who see the negative social impact of the vibrants when everybody else is out trying sell some feelgood bullshit. We know everything already there's no point in listening to everybody else.

    Blacks behaving badly does tend to motivate voters to vote Republican. But that's one, among all the things that a voter might consider. And right now, undocumented shopping by vibrants in Minneapolis doesn't stack up very high compared against a pandemic that threatens everybody's health and everybody's livelihood.

    When push comes to shove, Trump and the Trump campaign might be very effective in convincing American that Joe is sleepy and stupid. But it's not going to help, the voters will vote for him anyway. (If in fact the Presidential race comes down to Trump vs. Biden, and there's some chance that it won't imo).

    Replies: @Anonymous, @epebble, @sayless, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Anonymous, @jack daniels

    I see the point you’re making, but the pandemic is new, or at least the reaction to this one is new. But black dysfunctionality, violence, destruction of property is an old story and everyone is sick of it. Even Obama was sick of it. He said about the Ferguson riots (or was it Baltimore?) “I’ve seen this movie before…”

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @sayless


    I see the point you’re making, but the pandemic is new, or at least the reaction to this one is new. But black dysfunctionality, violence, destruction of property is an old story and everyone is sick of it. Even Obama was sick of it. He said about the Ferguson riots (or was it Baltimore?) “I’ve seen this movie before…”
     
    Absolutely it is. My point is that we're pissing away our own leverage by sticking with Trump in a world where normie white voters are determined to tune him out. It's pretty clear at this point that whatever the issue is, immigration, minority riots and social agitation, anything else, we're not ever going to get any more than we have now with Trump as President.

    Replies: @res, @Charon, @jb

  129. I’ve seen two videos of the George Floyd arrest. In the first, he’s removed from a vehicle and cuffed. He’s clearly wasted and immediately complaining about the pain he’s in. After a few minutes, he’s led across the street, away from his vehicle, and about to be placed in a cop car. When the next video opens, the cop is kneeling on Floyd’s neck back on the original side of the street. It seems to me, the only way he could have gotten there is if, just after the first video cuts out, he broke away from the cops leading him and fled back to his vehicle. The moments between the two videos were recorded, are in the possession of prosecutors, who are saying all is not as it appears.

    • Replies: @David
    @David

    I'm wrong. I just saw a third video. Floyd's on the ground next to a police vehicle, not his own.

  130. “Looks like a Target/Police Precinct dichotomy, with the crowd looting the stores mostly black, and the crowd invading the police precinct mostly white trustafarians. ”

    Why would blacks invade the police station? There are no essential survival items to be found like flat screens, Nike’s, and hair straightener. Got go to Target for those things.

  131. @J.Ross
    @indocon

    This, there are plenty of masked white rioters and they are significant in the riot, the guy smashing the AutoZone windows was a scrawny masked white. Unfortunately Justice Department policy is to not interfere with leftist terrorism, let alone prosecute it, and this policy has only become more serious under Trump.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Jim Christian, @teo toon, @dcthrowback, @Truth

    This, there are plenty of masked white rioters

    Nonsense. I know Hispanics and Iraqis and Libyans from round-eye Whites when I see them. So do you. You don’t get to hang one bit of this on Whitey (beyond those asshole cops). There were a number of little yellow people in and out of the Apple Store too. Yeah, we Whites are a riotous lot..

  132. The mayor is a Democrat (DFL). He will not act to stop the rioting. The rioters are his supporters and are mostly attacking the black part of town. If they were attacking an affluent white area, he would have to act.

  133. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    Black business owner cries over his Sports Bar being destroyed, then repulses negroes trying to steal his safe:

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Anonymous

    Just part and parcel of living in the big city, fella.

  134. The moral of the story: sometimes rioting doesn’t just ‘burn out’ on its own.

    It’s only Friday morning.

    At the start of summer.

    In our brilliant new Libtard society with a wrecked economy with tens of millions of newly unemployed.

    Without any outlets to help manage support or stress like churches, concerts, cafés, parks, beaches, festivals, and bizarrely retarded regulations at the few places that are open.

    The Libtard sowed this. They can reap it.

    • Agree: Dtbb
  135. Anonymous[100] • Disclaimer says:
    @Whiskey
    Its over. Its like the Rodney King Riots in 1992. That got Bill Clinton elected. Pure and simple.

    Black people riot, burn stuff down, beat down Whites. And Whites surrender and do what they are told.

    That video of police running away is a metaphor for Trump and White America. Heck there may not be a Republican left.

    Its like 9/11 -- we got unlimited Muslim immigration, mosques all over the place, the Empire State Building lit up for Eid (what the hell is that Holiday? Its not a real holiday like Christmas and Easter and Halloween).

    Replies: @Tusk, @Anonymous, @JMcG, @Anonymous, @JohnPlywood, @e, @AnotherDad, @ben tillman

    The long hot summers of the late 60s got Richard Nixon (R) elected.
    But then again we were a different country demographically and culturally; Now the hippie “counter-culture” is the culture, look at all the white ANTIFA nutcases.

  136. Anonymous[184] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ed
    @Almost Missouri

    The mayor gave the order for the police to stand down at the precinct. Here’s him responding to Trump, weak is an understatement:

    https://twitter.com/bylizsawyer/status/1266257642508349441?s=21

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anonymous, @Ganderson, @Hypnotoad666, @peterike, @Anonymous, @Menschmaschine, @Dieter Kief

    Mayor Frey is Jewish.

    Judging by this photo and this photo alone.

  137. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ed
    @Almost Missouri

    The mayor gave the order for the police to stand down at the precinct. Here’s him responding to Trump, weak is an understatement:

    https://twitter.com/bylizsawyer/status/1266257642508349441?s=21

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anonymous, @Ganderson, @Hypnotoad666, @peterike, @Anonymous, @Menschmaschine, @Dieter Kief

    Even the podium smack was lame. Like a chorus lineman’s failed audition for a speaking part.

  138. Are there no police dogs or fire hoses in Minnesota? No federal funds to rebuild.

    Since white lives don’t matter to the left, the police shoot open fire on the ANTIFA rioters. Leave the blacks alone but shoot the white rioters. You know, for equality and such. Or something.

  139. @Anonymous
    @Whiskey

    This is a net positive for Republicans.

    More of this forces Biden to pick a black VP, which won't help much in a national election. It will likely be, in order of likelihood, (1) Kamala, (2) Val Demings or (3) Michelle Obama as a wild card.

    In normal times, Val Demings could be the law & order sensible black. But she is a total unknown and running a black cop right now will hurt turnout among blacks.

    Biden with a sensible nice white lady VP would be hard to beat, considering Trump's performance in the past few months. But with the emerging Karen meme, a white lady VP will kill black turnout as well. They don't want to be lectured by a white lady for 4 years.

    As far as I'm concerned, let more of these Blue cities go up in flames. It only helps.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Jay Fink, @Buck Ransom, @MEH 0910, @Daniel H

    … a white lady VP will kill black turnout as well.
    They don’t want to be lectured by a white lady for 4 years.

    Does anyone?

    • LOL: nokangaroos
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad



    … a white lady VP will kill black turnout as well.
    They don’t want to be lectured by a white lady for 4 years.
     
    Does anyone?
     
    Who would you rather be lectured by?

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    , @fish
    @AnotherDad


    Does anyone?
     
    Progressive America is still livid at not getting their daily scolding from Mme Clinton......
    , @Alfa158
    @AnotherDad

    Some of us have been getting lectured by a White lady for years or even decades. It’s not that bad, all you have to do is pretend you’re listening and throw in an occasional “yes dear” to make them think you are listening.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Truth

  140. @Anonymous
    @JSQ

    Nonsense. The white rioters aren't rioting out of some deep sense of discontent, or even out of genuine outrage at this particular wrongful death. They just wanna have fun LARPing as cool, badass anti-establishment revolutionaries.

    Replies: @John Achterhof, @Anonymous, @S. Anonyia, @Buck Ransom

    Ridiculous. Antifa runs on the righteous anger, inculcated by the left in the universities and in the media (such as the Times with their damning 1619 antithesis to America’s 1776 identity), that latent fascism is ever-present in America. (One has to admit, in broad consideration of human nature across all societies, there is a measure of truth to the notion – charged in America by the history of slavery.) Their vigilante purpose depends on this belief. They look earnestly for confirmation and opportunity, and wherever fascism in America bursts to the surface they rush to the scene to attack.

    These “antifascists” manage with their fire-in-the-mind ransacking to undermine the cause they purport to serve: there’s nothing like the shocking imagery of buildings on fire to persuade the public to the need for Order.

  141. @Almost Missouri
    @notsaying

    Abandoning police stations to rioters seems like a terrible decision. Probably came from the Mayor, who is openly on the side of the rioters. The retreating police may or may not be able to clear out the armories during the evacuation to keep it from falling into the hands of the rioters, but there's also evidence rooms (every case depending on that evidence is now compromised), police files, communications equipment, and various other things that would be suboptimal to have fall into rioter/antifa hands. Even if the rioters are too dumb to use most of it, it is still a loss to law enforcement. This is aside from the horrible symbolism of Law Enforcement Officers losing their strongpoint to a raggedy mob. Morale boost to rioters; morale depressant to law enforcement.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @Ed, @Jim Christian

    The retreating police may or may not be able to clear out the armories during the evacuation to keep it from falling into the hands of the rioters, but there’s also evidence rooms (every case depending on that evidence is now compromised)

    I’ve been in a few police stations in my day, small-town types in suburban DC. Evidence rooms and armories in those stations are akin to hardened Federal SCIFs. Entry and exit is controlled, no one in or out without credentials. Evidence rooms aren’t going to be compromised, at least no one has mentioned that tidbit and besides, police stations feed their evidence out to central evidence holding facilities that are convenient to courts and prosecutors and the chain is verified every step of the way. As for weapons, there were no marauders holding up the looted spoils of the arms stores from the 3rd precinct on this one. Something tells me at the first resistance to entry anywhere in the building, they would have moved on because once inside, they’d have to assume there would be folks along to chase them out or arrest them. There is going to be some very good photo evidence of the entrants to that building, too. They can make some very serious prosecutions in this if they choose to.

    If they do not, then we’ll know THAT particular part of civilization is lost. If you as political leaders of a city abandon the very center of law and order to the mobs, one has to ask what the personal property and lives of the civilians who run stores and shops could possibly mean to the ‘leadership’ of the city? Zero. Another city, abandoned. The folks who lost their stores aren’t rebuilding. They’ll just build another suburb.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Jim Christian


    Evidence rooms aren’t going to be compromised, at least no one has mentioned that tidbit
     
    This guy mentioned it.

    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1266345666089046016

    This Antifa account mentions "redistributing police equipment".

    https://twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/1266206034260975616

    There is going to be some very good photo evidence of the entrants to that building, too. They can make some very serious prosecutions in this if they choose to.
     
    Oh there is. The invaders gave maskless testimonlials on livestream.

    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1266220595290701829

    Something tells me they won't get prosecuted, though...

    If they do not, then we’ll know THAT particular part of civilization is lost.
     
    Some of us already concluded it was lost.

    If you as political leaders of a city abandon the very center of law and order to the mobs, one has to ask what the personal property and lives of the civilians who run stores and shops could possibly mean to the ‘leadership’ of the city? Zero.
     
    Indeed.

    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/05/29/us/29MINN-MAYOR/merlin_172925283_7e0c44a2-2e86-439b-b6ed-b31917eb7293-superJumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp

    Another city, abandoned.
     
    You've heard of "Stand Your Ground" laws? Minnesota has the opposite: "Duty to Retreat" laws. It doesn't apply to police, though.
  142. Refuting accusations of impunity and turning a blind eye, the Minnesota State Police have arrested 3 men. CNN reporters.

    Trump is going to use the troopers for all his future press conferences

  143. “Shoot black looters” is an extremely popular position among Hispanic voters and “shoot looters” is a fairly popular position among black voters. This is why Trump’s tweet gets banned.

    Suburban/professional Whites (core of the Democrats) are the only people who go for “space to destroy” and that is contingent on it not being their space being destroyed.

    Run the political map and push rioters to white democrat neighborhoods.

    The rioters are already jawing that they are headed for the suburbs next.

  144. @indocon
    @Daniel Williams

    Trump needs to stay back and let this burn for a few more days, then send in the full deployment of US Army, arrest all these white punks and send them to federal jails in the south

    Replies: @J.Ross, @VinnyVette, @botazefa, @Pericles

    White punks?

  145. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    "Can't believe?" Really? Anyone can't believe that, in a city strangled by the diversity cult, where the mayor summarily threw (probably bad) cops under the bus without due process in a brainless bid at appeasement, cops would stand down?
    Apparently a local reporter (it's the fat bald guy in a fleece best) told the rioters that he personally supported their "protest" and thought they were "killing it." Great choice of words. No city has recovered from a black riot.
    ------
    There's similar events all over, not necessarily related. Apparently lefties (including the standard literal violent communists like BAMN) were planning to riot this weekend, to ritually acknowledge the warmer weather, but it's not yet clear if they "got lucky" or were important in getting people out.
    Here in Michigan, near Ann Arbor, a woman and her husband (last name "El") decided to videotape police arriving at a scene where gunshots had been reported.
    (Maybe this is unrelated but probably not: I've been hearing every night gunshots and fireworks, to include the really big nearly municipal grade fireworks, and have witnessed several pyrotechnics just barely clear rooftops because they were fired from two blocks away by amateurs who scattered when I and other annoyed residents approached. People are celebrating the warmer weather stupidly, the gunshots might not have been a [deliberate] shooting.)
    Police asked "El" that she am to leave the scene of a reported shooting for her safety. I don't need to tell you how she replied. One of the officers apparently punched her in the head (you know, like that Minneapolis old lady who was knocked out of a wheelchair and robbed was punched in the head). This head punching is supposedly the basis of a (told you so, complete failure and abdication of our law talkers) roadblock protest. Remember how lefties were steadily making illegal roadblocks their favorite mode of protest? Remember how the law talker reaction to that was to effectively legalize illegal roadblocks and attacking cars, setting the precedent that you can be sent to prison for the rest of your life if you do what had been at that time the standard and legal response to an illegal roadblock?
    Anyway, apparently this stuff is happening in Colorado as well (and wasn't there a Minneapolis-support protest in LA?), and where girls have balls:
    https://twitter.com/bellers03/status/1266174838374313992

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anonymous, @Stan d Mute, @ThreeCranes

    No city has recovered from a black riot.

    Er, is this true? I am asking because I don’t know very much about it.

  146. @Lot
    George Floyd’s history.

    “ Floyd pleaded guilty to the robbery where another suspect posed as a worker for the local water department, wearing a blue uniform in an attempt to gain access to the woman’s home, according to the charging document.

    But when the woman opened the door, she realized he was not with the water department and attempted to close the door, leading to a struggle.

    At that time, a Ford Explorer pulled up to the home and five other males exited the car and went up to the front door.

    The report states the largest of the group, who the victim later identified as Floyd, ‘forced his way inside the residence, placed a pistol against the complainant’s abdomen, and forced her into the living room area of the residence.

    ‘This large suspect then proceeded to search the residence while another armed suspect guarded the complainant, who was struck in the head and sides by this second armed suspect with his pistol while she screamed for help.’

    Not finding any drugs or money at the house, the men took jewelry and the woman’s cell phone and fled in their car. A neighbor who witnessed the robbery took down the car’s license plate number.

    Later, police tracked down the car and found Floyd behind the wheel. He was later identified by the woman as the large suspect who placed a gun against her stomach and forced her into her living room, the document states.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8366533/George-Floyd-moved-Minneapolis-start-new-life-released-prison-Texas.html

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Ganderson, @Ian Smith, @Jus' Sayin'...

    Seems about right. I assumed, with alll the reference to “fresh start” and gentle giant that the guy wasn’t St. Francis of Assisi.
    This all reminiscent of the riots after Justine Diamond’s murder by the cops a couple years ago…. oh wait….

    This all makes me very sad. (And angry, as if I could do anything from 1200 miles away) The Twin Cities was a great place to grow up- I lived there until I was 30 when circumstances sent me east. It pains me to watch my hometown (I grew up just across the Lake St. bridge over the Mississippi in St. Paul.) turn into Baltimore or Detroit.

  147. @Anon
    On the livestream I'm looking at it seems like there are a lot of antifa (white people)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z6BJv0FJI0

    Replies: @Jake, @Dani

    The big money, filthy money Left, which is far being totally Jewish, would have sent in thousands of violent white Leftists who come from all over, Most of those sent would already have experience in such urban warfare in which they know they can get away with almost anything, because we all agree that RACISM and Confederate statues are the enemy.

    The white Left makes blacks act much worse than they already will.

  148. Anonymous[362] • Disclaimer says:

    America is done for, the blacks and hispanics are much more tough and aggressive than white Americans and not even having guns will help them as black Americans and hispanics are just as heavily armed if not more so.

    They are going to burn your country, your civilisation to the ground and unfortunately I fear there’s not a thing you can do about it.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Anonymous


    ...more tough and aggressive than white Americans
     
    Depends. If you want to climb a mountain; explore the arctic; or fly into space, don't bet on the duskier races.

    Street crime is a rather narrow specialty, with the practitioners coming; hat in hand; to Whites/Asians, willing to trade votes/economic position for running water and electricity.
  149. @Ed
    @Almost Missouri

    The mayor gave the order for the police to stand down at the precinct. Here’s him responding to Trump, weak is an understatement:

    https://twitter.com/bylizsawyer/status/1266257642508349441?s=21

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anonymous, @Ganderson, @Hypnotoad666, @peterike, @Anonymous, @Menschmaschine, @Dieter Kief

    Is he crying?

  150. @t
    If he didn't do(99% chance) everyone who repeated this smear needs to be sued in bankruptcy.

    https://twitter.com/dyllyp/status/1266166402521522176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1266166402521522176&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unz.com%2Fanepigone%2Fdream-lovers-dont-dream-alone%2F

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Arne Pedersen, @George, @Alan Mercer, @ThreeCranes, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Buck Ransom, @BB753

    Jacob Pederson Is Not the AutoZone Umbrella Man, St. Paul Police Say

    https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/jacob-pederson-auto-zone-cop-not-umbrella-man/

  151. @Almost Missouri
    @Lot

    Haha. I was wondering when the inevitable criminal records would start to emerge.

    I mean, like Every. Single. Time. Amirite?

    And of course it's the British tabloid press who are magically able to find the public records all the way across the ocean, which somehow eluded all the serried ranks of the US press corps, our self-proclaimed guardians of democracy lol.

    (Not to give the Limecucks too much credit. Even when releasing this key information, they cushion it with the shopworn, "A new start turns to a tragic end ... determined to turn his life around" clichés—in the headline itself! Is it too much to ask that if they can't get some new clichés, they just skip them altogether?)

    Replies: @Rob McX, @snorlax, @Anonymous, @Ganderson

    You forgot “gentle giant”!

  152. @Whiskey
    @Tusk

    Which data point makes more sense? In 2016 we had sniper fire. No mob to appease. In 1992 we had the mob. Lesson do what Black people order or you burnt out. Vote Dem you don't get hurt.

    That has been the ploy since FDR and Detroit 1943. It always works.

    My guess is total rout like the cops and the Purge movies become reality for Whiteys at Bidens inaugural.

    Replies: @Tusk, @Cloudbuster, @indocon, @ben tillman

    FFS, stop whining and demoralizing all over.

  153. The best part is Woke Capital like Target and Mickey Deendu’s getting targeted.

    Anyway:

    The actuality is that there have never been any worthy societies that didn’t enforce any and all forms of segregation (barring from jobs, designated living areas, etc.) and the necessary brutality to keep outsiders behaved (destroying Jews for example). Murcans like posters above just live in denial of the Way of Nature (where the likes of wolf packs aren’t brothers to each-other).

    All of liberalism, being rooted in a monsterous hodgepodge of the likes of Abrahamism and Anglo fantasies like “The Individual” can be summarized as defiance of the proper order. This proper order requires homogenity and segregation.

    Between the Muslims commtting genocide on Christian subjects or neighbors when given the oppurtunity (Ottomans’ massacres and ISIS’ antics), the state of modern Brazil, etc., it all points to the sure end of defying the Way of Things as either genocide, ghettoville or other forms of dysfunction, or replacement.

  154. @Ed
    @Almost Missouri

    The mayor gave the order for the police to stand down at the precinct. Here’s him responding to Trump, weak is an understatement:

    https://twitter.com/bylizsawyer/status/1266257642508349441?s=21

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anonymous, @Ganderson, @Hypnotoad666, @peterike, @Anonymous, @Menschmaschine, @Dieter Kief

    Wow. Frey makes Justin Trudeau seem like a tough guy.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Hypnotoad666


    Wow. Frey makes Justin Trudeau seem like a tough guy.
     
    Never mind his dad:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Crisis


    Mike Myers notes the irony of "liberal" Pierre, rather than Richard Nixon, resorting to martial law. But he was praised for doing so.

    Replies: @Truth

  155. @Whiskey
    Its over. Its like the Rodney King Riots in 1992. That got Bill Clinton elected. Pure and simple.

    Black people riot, burn stuff down, beat down Whites. And Whites surrender and do what they are told.

    That video of police running away is a metaphor for Trump and White America. Heck there may not be a Republican left.

    Its like 9/11 -- we got unlimited Muslim immigration, mosques all over the place, the Empire State Building lit up for Eid (what the hell is that Holiday? Its not a real holiday like Christmas and Easter and Halloween).

    Replies: @Tusk, @Anonymous, @JMcG, @Anonymous, @JohnPlywood, @e, @AnotherDad, @ben tillman

    Did you even pay attention to this post or are you still dissocating from the fact that it was white people who burned down the police station?

  156. According to the Guardian, “fires erupt” in Minneapolis, must be something to do with tectonic plates.

    At least the BBC have “Protesters set Minneapolis police station ablaze“, although “Twitter hides Trump tweet for ‘glorifying violence‘” gets a lot more prominence.

  157. @J.Ross
    "Can't believe?" Really? Anyone can't believe that, in a city strangled by the diversity cult, where the mayor summarily threw (probably bad) cops under the bus without due process in a brainless bid at appeasement, cops would stand down?
    Apparently a local reporter (it's the fat bald guy in a fleece best) told the rioters that he personally supported their "protest" and thought they were "killing it." Great choice of words. No city has recovered from a black riot.
    ------
    There's similar events all over, not necessarily related. Apparently lefties (including the standard literal violent communists like BAMN) were planning to riot this weekend, to ritually acknowledge the warmer weather, but it's not yet clear if they "got lucky" or were important in getting people out.
    Here in Michigan, near Ann Arbor, a woman and her husband (last name "El") decided to videotape police arriving at a scene where gunshots had been reported.
    (Maybe this is unrelated but probably not: I've been hearing every night gunshots and fireworks, to include the really big nearly municipal grade fireworks, and have witnessed several pyrotechnics just barely clear rooftops because they were fired from two blocks away by amateurs who scattered when I and other annoyed residents approached. People are celebrating the warmer weather stupidly, the gunshots might not have been a [deliberate] shooting.)
    Police asked "El" that she am to leave the scene of a reported shooting for her safety. I don't need to tell you how she replied. One of the officers apparently punched her in the head (you know, like that Minneapolis old lady who was knocked out of a wheelchair and robbed was punched in the head). This head punching is supposedly the basis of a (told you so, complete failure and abdication of our law talkers) roadblock protest. Remember how lefties were steadily making illegal roadblocks their favorite mode of protest? Remember how the law talker reaction to that was to effectively legalize illegal roadblocks and attacking cars, setting the precedent that you can be sent to prison for the rest of your life if you do what had been at that time the standard and legal response to an illegal roadblock?
    Anyway, apparently this stuff is happening in Colorado as well (and wasn't there a Minneapolis-support protest in LA?), and where girls have balls:
    https://twitter.com/bellers03/status/1266174838374313992

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anonymous, @Stan d Mute, @ThreeCranes

    I don’t know why this situation would surprise anybody. I predicted it on Day One of the lockdowns – that if they continue until warm weather riots would ensue. That it’s an election year only guaranteed my prophecy would come to pass.

    In re the Ann Arbor mini-riot (https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2020/05/outraged-residents-block-streets-in-protest-over-washtenaw-deputy-accused-of-punching-black-woman.html) – cops had nearly closed US23 at I94 (riot adjacent to US23 and I94 next exit South).

    Wait until the kids in Detriot get going..

    Where this gets interesting is the fact that now we have an extra 41 million plus unemployed and many more in financial hardship with no good prospects for improvement. Whites haven’t been answering riots since Detriot in the 40’s because they’ve thought the government would quell the problems and because they’ve had too much to lose. Today both those mitigating factors have been removed.

    It’s going to be a long and entertaining summer.

    • Agree: Kyle
  158. @Boethiuss
    @Anonymous


    Your post didn’t explain what it is that commenters misunderstand.
     
    That they're overestimating the electoral impact of episodes like this one. For example this is part of a comment on this very thread.

    This is a net positive for Republicans.

    ...........

    Biden with a sensible nice white lady VP would be hard to beat, considering Trump’s performance in the past few months. But with the emerging Karen meme, a white lady VP will kill black turnout as well. They don’t want to be lectured by a white lady for 4 years.
     
    I agree that at some level this will be good electorally for Republicans. Unfortunately for now, it's going to be drowned out by other things which are against the GOP, the coronavirus obviously number one.

    Replies: @Ed, @Cloudbuster

    It’s not the red states that have suffered the most under Coronavirus, and it’s not Trump’s decisions that made things worse, both economically and with regard to disease spread.

    Anyone who blames Trump simply isn’t thinking.

    • Agree: botazefa
    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @Cloudbuster


    It’s not the red states that have suffered the most under Coronavirus, and it’s not Trump’s decisions that made things worse, both economically and with regard to disease spread.
     
    A large part of the iSteve commentariat wants to believe this, and for those who do, they are profoundly misunderstanding our present circumstances.

    Even if we can argue that Trump's actual leadership wrt coronavirus hasn't actually been that bad, it's becoming very very clear that normie white voters aren't buying any more of Trump's persona and his derpy bullshit. Obviously, in objective terms the virus is going to have a huge economic and mortality fallout, no matter what the various authorities do or have done, but politically speaking it's the derp that kills.

    This is different than where we were in January where things were a little more in flux. Then, you could hope that voters would be motivated to vote for someone they trusted to represent them as opposed to CNN or google, who are representing other people. Now, people want clarity, intelligence, and action with purpose. And Trump isn't giving us those things.
  159. White people deserve this.

    Whites try to weaponize SJW overseas so they can attack countries like China, but then it blows up in their face at home.

    So many people here were concerned about African migrants in China, now look at Minnesota lol.

  160. @Ed
    @Almost Missouri

    The mayor gave the order for the police to stand down at the precinct. Here’s him responding to Trump, weak is an understatement:

    https://twitter.com/bylizsawyer/status/1266257642508349441?s=21

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anonymous, @Ganderson, @Hypnotoad666, @peterike, @Anonymous, @Menschmaschine, @Dieter Kief

    Is Frey gay? He’s certainly womanly, with his little bitch voice.

    I see a lot of white virtue signalers on social media. It’s one of those times to scrupulously avoid social media. White people just love beating on other white people.

    Meanwhile, Trump was discussing what could be an “enhanced” hurricane season (sure, whatever), and in a meeting with officials said this:

    “So you think we can have a slightly enhanced hurricane season? That’s just what we want, that’s just what we want,” Trump said to officials gathered in the Oval Office.

    No doubt the press is reporting this as “Trump says he wants terrible hurricane season to kill thousands!”

  161. @Cagey Beast
    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1266219812197404672?s=20

    https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1266213127189905410?s=20

    Replies: @JSQ, @Dave Pinsen, @Gabe Ruth

    An interesting development. On the bright side, at least this action can unequivocally condemned by the media.

  162. Why didn’t this happen when that Somali cop murdered the white woman in Minnesota? White Minnesotans are so beholden to black ethnonarcissism that they can’t even muster a riot for an obvious police murder.

  163. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @JSQ

    Nonsense. The white rioters aren't rioting out of some deep sense of discontent, or even out of genuine outrage at this particular wrongful death. They just wanna have fun LARPing as cool, badass anti-establishment revolutionaries.

    Replies: @John Achterhof, @Anonymous, @S. Anonyia, @Buck Ransom

    The white rioters aren’t rioting out of some deep sense of discontent, or even out of genuine outrage at this particular wrongful death.

    Two questions:

    !) Are there any reliable estimates of the ratio of white-to-black rioters in Minneapolis?

    2) Does anyone know offhand what percentage of people in Minnesota are black? I am wondering if there is some sort of known “tipping point” where, if more than X% of the population is black, you can more or less expect something like this to happen.

  164. Although MN leans Democratic, the suburbs don’t think much of the politics of Minneapolis and to a lesser extent St. Paul. Trump should just sit back and do nothing – let the local politicians in charge of the urban cores of the Twin Cities flounder and fail, and it’s a reminder to the rest of the metro area (which far outnumbers the cities proper) of what is headed their way eventually.

    MN is too nice for its own good. They had a good thing going, got high on the the diversity/refugee resettlement BS, and now have guaranteed themselves urban problems forever.

    • Agree: Thoughts
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Arclight

    Yep, let them raze Minneapolis for another week. It will serve as a nice reminder to any dopey upper midwest Protestants & Lutherans that multiculturalism will have a large price, moving forward. Give them something to think about when they vote for Biden & Minority Co.

    Minneapolis is the perfect city for this actually, because it's always been portrayed as a post-racial utopia.

    Maybe they can burn down Madison WI next?

    Replies: @Arclight

  165. I wouldn’t want to be named Karen or Becky in MN these days.

    Maybe we could change the Vikings to the Nubians to appease super smart people momentarily.

  166. @Reg Cæsar
    @Dieter Kief

    Well, it may not look brutalist, but it sure feels brutalist. I guess you have to be there to get the full effect.


    Never mind "Six Flags". This neighborhood, judging by another nearby, beats that easily:


    Before the City of Minneapolis took control, Bancroft was part of:



    France’s American empire 1680-1763

    Spain’s American empire 1763-1803

    the District of Louisiana 1804-1805

    Louisiana Territory 1805-1812

    Missouri Territory 1812-1821

    Fort Snelling Reservation 1820-1849

    Michigan Territory 1834-1836

    Wisconsin Territory 1836-1838

    Iowa Territory 1838-1846

    Minnesota Territory 1849-1858

    Richfield Township 1858-1867

    Minneapolis Township 1867-1887



    Bancroft was in Ward 11 from 1887 to 1891, Ward 7 from 1891 to 1947, Ward 11 again from 1947 to 1961, and has been in Ward 8 since 1961. Our neighborhood was part of Park District #33 from 1917 to 1963, #35 from 1963 to 1969, and #5 since 1969.

    https://www.bancroftneighborhood.org/bancrofthistory

     

    I don't know if "bikers" on this map refers to motor bikes or to acoustic ones, but extend the Philips/Powderhorn boundary a couple blocks into Longfellow, and you've got the site of the police station. Target is across the street to the north.


    http://stmedia.stimg.co/ctyp_6548314judgempls.jpg?w=800


    My kid was in a Cub Scout pack a few blocks to the south as recently as four years ago. I took him there a lot, sometimes by bus. Can't imagine doing that now. Though the Scouts will have plenty of improvement work to look forward to now.

    Replies: @Elf Himself, @fish

    “Bikers” definitely means non-motorized (with optional, status-displaying spandex); that’s the Midtown Greenway.

  167. @J.Ross
    @indocon

    This, there are plenty of masked white rioters and they are significant in the riot, the guy smashing the AutoZone windows was a scrawny masked white. Unfortunately Justice Department policy is to not interfere with leftist terrorism, let alone prosecute it, and this policy has only become more serious under Trump.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Jim Christian, @teo toon, @dcthrowback, @Truth

    scrawny masked white

    Scrawny? He is a cop. The kid who tried to stop him and then followed him instinctively knew he was a cop; he has even been outed.
    Just watch the video and observe how the guy walks and stands.

    • Replies: @Sam Haysom
    @teo toon

    He’s been outed to the extent that Michele Obama has been outed as a dude. There’s a lot of pics where she is bulging a lot more than Obama. Lol.

  168. Charles Erwin Wilson [AKA "Charles Erwin Wilson Three"] says:
    @Boethiuss
    iSteve commenters tend to misunderstand the impact of things like this, especially in its racial terms because that's where we all tend to believe that we're all race experts, that we're the ones who see the negative social impact of the vibrants when everybody else is out trying sell some feelgood bullshit. We know everything already there's no point in listening to everybody else.

    Blacks behaving badly does tend to motivate voters to vote Republican. But that's one, among all the things that a voter might consider. And right now, undocumented shopping by vibrants in Minneapolis doesn't stack up very high compared against a pandemic that threatens everybody's health and everybody's livelihood.

    When push comes to shove, Trump and the Trump campaign might be very effective in convincing American that Joe is sleepy and stupid. But it's not going to help, the voters will vote for him anyway. (If in fact the Presidential race comes down to Trump vs. Biden, and there's some chance that it won't imo).

    Replies: @Anonymous, @epebble, @sayless, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Anonymous, @jack daniels

    Boethiuss says:
    October 19, 2016 at 11:16 am GMT
    @reiner Tor
    So what if I were you illiterate retard. Trump is still going to lose, and you were the ones who put him there.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1613926

    Boethiuss says:
    October 19, 2016 at 8:28 am GMT • 200 Words
    @Desiderius
    …First of all, after the election, we’re all going to be despondent, and nobody except Hillary’s transition team is going to be paying attention to politics for a while. And just as important, the top of the ticket is a lost cause so the importance of the downticket races is magnified….
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1613841

    Boethiuss says:
    October 18, 2016 at 8:31 pm GMT • 100 Words
    @Difference Maker
    … The heart of the matter is accepting responsibility for the failure of the Trump campaign….
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1613241

    Boethiuss says:
    October 17, 2016 at 1:31 pm GMT • 100 Words
    @reiner Tor

    …No, Trump is going to lose because he’s a shit candidate and a shit person, and ultimately there has to be something about our politics besides adoration for Donald Trump.

    You fucked up, we all have to live with it, and “the GOPe” is going to do as best as they can to get us out of it.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1611552

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    "Everything is exactly the same as it was in 2016, and we've always been at war with Eurasia."

  169. TALKING TIME IS OVER. BALKANIZE .

  170. @22pp22
    I know white Americans are proud of what their ancestors built. If I were a white American, I would be proud, too. I hate to say this, but your country is no longer viable. You hate each other too much. America will have to split into smaller units that are cohesive and put the interests of their own citizens first.

    This is not obvious to Americans who are emotionally bound up with their homeland. To an outsider, it is increasingly undeniable.

    Pity that California will have to go. It's a beautiful place.

    The liberal whites who live there are used to getting away with being masochists because they live in a white-majority country. When they are a hated minority in California, their sanctimony will come back to bite them.

    It couldn't happen to nicer people. Build a wall to keep them out of what is left of your country.

    Replies: @snorlax, @anon, @XYZ (no Mr.), @Regret, @Anonymous, @epochehusserl, @anonn, @Charon

    The border with mexico gets a wall. The border with california gets razorwire and machine gun nests.

  171. @Mr. Anon
    The fact is a lot of people don't like the police nowadays, and it isn't just antifa and BLM activists. Many people in the law enforcement establishment, from the DoJ/FBI on down, act like arrogant jerks. Not a small number of them are corrupt.

    Replies: @Ian Smith, @VinnyVette

    People put up with a certain amount of crap from the police thinking that it’s the price for having someone deal with joggers.

    We’re at a point where defending yourself from blacks is racist, calling the cops on blacks is racist, the very existence of cops is racist, and moving to areas with zero blacks is racist. And all of said areas are being filled with Somali refugees anyway.

    We need racial divorce as Greg Johnson recommended:

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2015/03/irreconcilable-differences/?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=53ee82c52bc0dfbc5b513f1011a9a7c7fdade9b0-1590757643-0-AWtD3LE-pOFVO8wmNb7b6WGdW3yr66uuv-7yLuiRz3-r4mJJXf5V0sRnjxVxnLwQ90AvmzdXVPyEySJFb4SxdznkMXJyZ97Q1PdDdRLIdLK_Fi0bVlGnixy4IGa8sijGnJQLYPneu14S0Rx2MOEP36wcQ1x535j8W-ZgbxRynwWPewn1AIkWrG7mIOhuQaGqkanF3W4uanEI9k9FE8BzpLRN1wr58GjVHL790OVQTzuBU7_U79jreaDz-JzzfU4WsuOxvdB3X8b1LgQoBZDZ-dsgpuvEJq_xk05ZmryOFCM52ZOATjLTvM_g22IKcK7QDg

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Ian Smith


    People put up with a certain amount of crap from the police thinking that it’s the price for having someone deal with joggers.
     
    Really? How much?


    https://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhSCs38U0q76Q5d2E6&fbclid=IwAR1tfGB7ek68q3su8p8INcAo8I4M32tJvcJbld-dDVSx-lgy1L7a_Q0ulkk
  172. @Nicholas Stix
    There's no point paying for police in Minneapolis, if they aren't permitted to do their jobs. The same is probably true for teachers. The taxpayers need to go on a tax strike.

    Replies: @Tsar Nicholas, @Jane Plain

    There’s no point paying for police in Minneapolis, if they aren’t permitted to do their jobs.

    Murdering a man who did not resist arrest is part of a police officer’s duties?

    • Replies: @anon
    @Tsar Nicholas


    Murdering a man who did not resist arrest is part of a police officer’s duties?
     
    Black thugs lie soooo much. Watch any police interrogation and you'll notice just how much -- about every little detail, forcing the police to shake the truth out of them. They'll say they don't know anything, wasn't there, don't know how it got there, etc. Remember hands up? That happens all the time. I think it's possible the cop just assumed this was yet another lie. When you hear enough of them, you start to tune them out. If blacks didn't commit so much crime, the cop wouldn't have become so jaded that he ignored the guy's pleas.
    , @jack daniels
    @Tsar Nicholas

    Well apparently he did resist violently. That's why they won't show the redacted video portion IMO. But I agree that he was no longer dangerous and the cop's action certainly looks like murder. I would like to think that if I were at the scene I would have intervened more forcefully than the passersby who complained to the cops.

    I don't know how murder laws take into account provocations.

    Replies: @Tsar Nicholas, @Anonymous

  173. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ed
    @Almost Missouri

    The mayor gave the order for the police to stand down at the precinct. Here’s him responding to Trump, weak is an understatement:

    https://twitter.com/bylizsawyer/status/1266257642508349441?s=21

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anonymous, @Ganderson, @Hypnotoad666, @peterike, @Anonymous, @Menschmaschine, @Dieter Kief

    The mayor gave the order for the police to stand down at the precinct. Here’s him responding to Trump, weak is an understatement:

    What I liked most about his fiery rebuttal was his passionate spontaneity.

    Remember back when Billy Jack made him drive his own corvette into the lake?

  174. @Lot
    George Floyd’s history.

    “ Floyd pleaded guilty to the robbery where another suspect posed as a worker for the local water department, wearing a blue uniform in an attempt to gain access to the woman’s home, according to the charging document.

    But when the woman opened the door, she realized he was not with the water department and attempted to close the door, leading to a struggle.

    At that time, a Ford Explorer pulled up to the home and five other males exited the car and went up to the front door.

    The report states the largest of the group, who the victim later identified as Floyd, ‘forced his way inside the residence, placed a pistol against the complainant’s abdomen, and forced her into the living room area of the residence.

    ‘This large suspect then proceeded to search the residence while another armed suspect guarded the complainant, who was struck in the head and sides by this second armed suspect with his pistol while she screamed for help.’

    Not finding any drugs or money at the house, the men took jewelry and the woman’s cell phone and fled in their car. A neighbor who witnessed the robbery took down the car’s license plate number.

    Later, police tracked down the car and found Floyd behind the wheel. He was later identified by the woman as the large suspect who placed a gun against her stomach and forced her into her living room, the document states.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8366533/George-Floyd-moved-Minneapolis-start-new-life-released-prison-Texas.html

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Ganderson, @Ian Smith, @Jus' Sayin'...

    There always turning their lived around.

  175. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Almost Missouri


    Abandoning police stations to rioters seems like a terrible decision.

     

    Exactly.

    Last year the HK protests, which initially were mostly peaceful and had widespread support, turned into riots in one fateful night, i.e. July 1st, when organized, antifa-style thugs broke into the HK Legislative Council building, and trashed the very chamber in which Legco deliberates.

    Hundreds of rioters were wandering around inside the building for hours, smashing the hell out of everything, right on live TV. The cops could have sealed off the doors and hauled in the whole lot, but they were called off.

    It was the equivalent of the Capitol Building in Washington DC being overrun and vandalized, and then there being no consequences whatever for nearly all of those involved.

    This pusillanimous signal opened the door to eight months of relentless rioting and destruction, which was cooled off only by the outbreak of COVID-19.

    The moral of the story: sometimes rioting doesn't just 'burn out' on its own. The MSP police are sending a terrible signal tonight; let's hope the bill to be paid for it isn't too steep.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jonathan Mason, @Anonymous, @Thea, @Chrisnonymous, @notsaying, @anon, @Stebbing Heuer

    It was the equivalent of the Capitol Building in Washington DC being overrun and vandalized, and then there being no consequences whatever for nearly all of those involved.

    Could be, but I suspect that the modern policing way of dealing with riots is to let them run their course, monitor everything on cameras, preserve lives as much as possible, then track down the ringleaders later and arrest them at their homes at 5:00 a.m when no one is watching.

    That seemed to be how it went down initially with the London riots of 2011 from August 6th to August 11th after police shot and killed a local gangster who had just taken delivery of a handgun from an informer. The riots then spread to a dozen other cities.

    Then the police started to fight back. See graphic below.

    By August 15th 3,100 people had been arrested and charged with offenses ranging from receiving stolen goods to inciting riots on Facebook (sentenced to 4 years). By August 2012, 1292 rioters had been handed custodial sentences totaling 1,800 years at 16.8 months on an average.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots#Arrests_and_charges

    With the lock down, Covid-19, unemployment, and all, people have been waiting for some excuse to cut loose in a Summer of Discontent, and now there is one that everyone can take part in, whether as a political agitator or as a street gang member, casual looter, or even as a vigilante. Let the mischief begin.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023874/UK-riots-2011-16k-police-ready-use-plastic-bullets-lid-Londons-looters.html

    • Replies: @Neuday
    @Jonathan Mason

    Yeah, like the police are gonna deploy that against America's Pets. Might as suggest the use of firehoses and German Shepherds.

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jonathan Mason

    "I suspect that the modern policing way of dealing with riots is to let them run their course, monitor everything on cameras, preserve lives as much as possible, then track down the ringleaders later and arrest them at their homes at 5:00 a.m when no one is watching"

    It's a pity the government don't make this explicit - then you wouldn't have innocent white people like Richard Mannington Bowes beaten to death for trying to put out burning waste bins outside his house.

    Of course, if Mr Bowes had had thirty white neighbours at his side, he'd have been part of a "racist mob".

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/12/article-2025079-0D678B1F00000578-985_634x408.jpg


    As Mr Mannington Bowes remonstrated with the group and tried to stamp out a fire in a bin Desuze felled punched him in the face and he fell smashing his head on the pavement.

    The barrister said left-handed Desuze threw his full weight behind a punch to Mr Bowes's jaw, buckling his legs, knocking him unconscious and backwards where his head took the full force of impact on the road.

    Mr Bowes sustained 'catastrophic brain injuries' and never regained consciousness.

    After the attack it emerged Mr Mannington Bowes was a civic-minded man of old fashioned values who had been forced to confront yobs on his own doorstep for years.

    The reclusive former accountant had long been tormented by thugs who urinated on his front door and threw litter outside his home, according to friends and neighbours.

    However, his courage and habit of never walking away from something he considered wrong eventually cost him his life
     
    Which is why I don't live in London, and wouldn't even if I'd been raised there.
    , @Znzn
    @Jonathan Mason

    They should all just be machine gunned.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Buffalo Joe

    , @Joe Stalin
    @Jonathan Mason

    The modern 21st Century English have become such pussies; in the old days they had Rolls-Royce Armored Cars with water-cooled Vickers to deal with their recalcitrant rabble.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_4v3FU2tNI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yilipe7Q0Mc

    , @Corvinus
    @Jonathan Mason

    "Could be, but I suspect that the modern policing way of dealing with riots is to let them run their course, monitor everything on cameras, preserve lives as much as possible, then track down the ringleaders later and arrest them at their homes at 5:00 a.m when no one is watching."

    Exactly. Find out who were the instigators and put them in prison. Simple.

    In one of the videos I watched describing the events there, a Latino woman shook her head and said (I'm paraphrasing) "What sense does this make to burn your community down? Fight back at with your vote, not your fists".

    Replies: @Anonymous, @obwandiyag

  176. @Dave Pinsen
    Twitter just censored Trump's Minneapolis riot tweet.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266231100780744704?s=20

    Replies: @notsaying, @vhrm, @YetAnotherAnon, @Mike_from_SGV, @VinnyVette, @Jus' Sayin'...

    Hey Dave I thought you and others were faking the Trump tweet, writing something that a President should say but of course no one of them would in real life … but it’s real! So, finally we have a President who _might_ crack down on this domestic terrorism. I do think that if Trump handles this right, he will benefit in November, since Dems are basically the Angry POC Party, and what we see in MPLS represents the Dem future.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Mike_from_SGV

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, Mike.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1266440574757998592?s=21

  177. @JimDandy
    @t

    It looked like a classic Antifa move. I can't imagine why a cop would do that.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Old and Grumpy

    Cops are not friends of anyone on the right. They are unionized goons who work for the establishment.

    • Agree: Chris Mallory
    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Old and Grumpy

    Okay, but why would a cop do that?

  178. Surrendering a police station is akin to surrending a fort or military headquarters… It will only to serve to embolden the enemy. You think they would surrender a police station in Texas? Arizona? Violent rioters aren’t tracked down and put on the feds domestic terrorist lists, but white Trump voting gun owners who’ve never committed crimes are. Are you WOKE yet?

  179. So my earlier observation that we now know where 80% of the country lives, at the intersection of hysterical coward and low grade moron, which gave so many Steve readers the vapers, is born out.

    Bad people push it as hard as they can get away with, losers talk a hell of a fight, cities burn, and all cowards deserve what they are getting.

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  180. Isn’t George Soros sponsoring both BLM and Antifa? Apparently a race war and Covid19 are both good for currency manipulation.

  181. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @notsaying
    @Anonymous

    Not deliberate? How was it not deliberate?

    Are you saying this was an accident?

    Replies: @JimB, @Anonymous, @Jus' Sayin'..., @jb, @AnotherDad

    Not deliberate? How was it not deliberate?

    Are you saying this was an accident?

    The police didn’t mean to kill Floyd. So yes, his death was an accident.

  182. @Dave Pinsen
    Twitter just censored Trump's Minneapolis riot tweet.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266231100780744704?s=20

    Replies: @notsaying, @vhrm, @YetAnotherAnon, @Mike_from_SGV, @VinnyVette, @Jus' Sayin'...

    The looting started how many days ago where’s the shooting? More Trump empty promises!

  183. @J.Ross
    @indocon

    This, there are plenty of masked white rioters and they are significant in the riot, the guy smashing the AutoZone windows was a scrawny masked white. Unfortunately Justice Department policy is to not interfere with leftist terrorism, let alone prosecute it, and this policy has only become more serious under Trump.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Jim Christian, @teo toon, @dcthrowback, @Truth

    posse comitatus means state governor’s can only use the nasty guard unless an act of congress authorizes the use of the (fed) US Army.

    trump has little choice but to roll a blunt and cackle

  184. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @22pp22
    I know white Americans are proud of what their ancestors built. If I were a white American, I would be proud, too. I hate to say this, but your country is no longer viable. You hate each other too much. America will have to split into smaller units that are cohesive and put the interests of their own citizens first.

    This is not obvious to Americans who are emotionally bound up with their homeland. To an outsider, it is increasingly undeniable.

    Pity that California will have to go. It's a beautiful place.

    The liberal whites who live there are used to getting away with being masochists because they live in a white-majority country. When they are a hated minority in California, their sanctimony will come back to bite them.

    It couldn't happen to nicer people. Build a wall to keep them out of what is left of your country.

    Replies: @snorlax, @anon, @XYZ (no Mr.), @Regret, @Anonymous, @epochehusserl, @anonn, @Charon

    America will have to split into smaller units that are cohesive and put the interests of their own citizens first.

    This is not obvious to Americans who are emotionally bound up with their homeland. To an outsider, it is increasingly undeniable.

    Could you flesh out your argument here? What is your reasoning exactly that supports your assertion?

    • Replies: @22pp22
    @Anonymous

    The DNC's election platform is obviously and openly inspired by hatred of traditional America as 'redneck' and 'racist.' Even if they don't win, it is still a platform that millions of Americans are happy to vote for. In most countries, screaming hatred of your own country's identity and history is a quick way to lose an election. That is, amazingly, still true in the UK. Jeremy Corbyn tried DNC-style tactics and was wiped out.

    Do you remember the Brett Kavanaugh fiasco? The mask came off people like Nancy Pelosi, Maisey Hirono and Kamala Harris. They are motivated by an incandescent hatred of their own nation. How can you miss it? Redemption for its past sins involves the complete elimination of its founding-stock population and their replacement with better people from successful and tolerant societies like Mexico and the Congo.

    Tim Wise has made a fortune abusing whites on US campuses. There is no pushback. Jordan Petersen turns up and there is a riot. I used to be an academic and academia is the only part of America that I really know on a personal and intimate level. At after-conference dinner parties, I was the only person with anything positive to say about the place - and I was often the only non-American there.

    The worst thing about the US is the very obvious drug epidemic and yet it receives no coverage. Dealing with it should be priority number one. It isn't because your own elites want you to die.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  185. Hey guys; your president was right about one thing: I think I’m getting tired of ‘winning.’

    • Replies: @fish
    @Truth

    Oh Troofy.....was dat you Old Sport..... hammering teh Target™ self checkout machine?

    Replies: @Truth

  186. @Mr. Anon
    The fact is a lot of people don't like the police nowadays, and it isn't just antifa and BLM activists. Many people in the law enforcement establishment, from the DoJ/FBI on down, act like arrogant jerks. Not a small number of them are corrupt.

    Replies: @Ian Smith, @VinnyVette

    Yep! Cop abuse makes no distinction between the races.

  187. Cops are on the run, “standing down” — unless you try to re-open your tanning salon or use a roped-off playground. On the bright side, at least NYC for the moment no longer has the nation’s worst mayor.

    By the way, Cuomo says businesses can bar someone not wearing a mask. How soon until the first pesky minority member or systemically unhoused person challenges that stance?

  188. @Ed
    @Boethiuss

    It very well could turn Minnesota Red. Trump’s tweet about shooting the looters was spot on. Meanwhile the Dems paralyzed by fear over what to do including allowing a police building to burn will only harm them.

    Twitter isn’t real life and folks want to be safe.

    Replies: @anon, @Boethiuss, @Barnard

    It very well could turn Minnesota Red. Trump’s tweet about shooting the looters was spot on. Meanwhile the Dems paralyzed by fear over what to do including allowing a police building to burn will only harm them.

    In another world it just might. But in this world white people already know what they think about Trump, and the Republican Party with Trump as its leader, and the answer isn’t very good. Riots or no riots, there no reason to change their mind.

    • Agree: Corvinus
    • Disagree: botazefa
    • Replies: @e
    @Boethiuss

    In another world it just might. But in this world white people already know what they think about Trump, and the Republican Party with Trump as its leader, and the answer isn’t very good. Riots or no riots, there no reason to change their mind.

    Wrong. As POTUS he hasn't changed what he said when he was Citizen Trump about such behavior. and people know and appreciate that: they are "thugs" and they play this game for fun and profit and everyone knows it.

    More votes for the Donald in MN.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    , @Anonymous
    @Boethiuss


    In another world it just might. But in this world white people already know what they think about Trump, and the Republican Party with Trump as its leader, and the answer isn’t very good. Riots or no riots, there no reason to change their mind.
     
    What would need to change for them to change their mind?

    Replies: @Boethiuss, @sayless

    , @vinteuil
    @Boethiuss

    Wow, Boethiuss - you have just received the Corvinus Seal of Approval!

    Rarely has such an honor been conferred on one so deserving.

  189. Black CNN reporter is arrested live on air by Minnesota state police while reporting on Minneapolis riots over George Floyd’s killing

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8369373/Black-CNN-reporter-arrested-live-air-Minnesota-state-police.html#comments

    Free America! Free America!

  190. What Ed Asner did after the Mary Tyler Moore Show:

  191. @Clifford Brown
    So the cop and George Floyd were both bouncers at El Nuevo Rodeo, a trashy Mexican nightclub in Minneapolis?

    I don't know, man.

    https://youtu.be/35hGgkJ7y8g

    Replies: @Alden, @George, @jack daniels

    And Floyd was a convicted felon with a long criminal record working as a security guard. There’s a section in Bonfire of the Vanities where a judge mentions that most of the black thugs in his criminal courtroom work as security guards.

  192. A-10s will make short work of them.

  193. Diversity, Inclusion, Equity … coming to a town near you.

    Here’s one for the Victims patients in America’s Long-term Medical Care Facilities getting their daily dose right now:

  194. @Anonymous
    @JSQ


    Discontent and anger in 2020 transcend racial borders. America is coming apart at the seams.
     
    George Floyd’s death appears to have been wrongful, but it was not deliberate and it is not indicative of a broader societal or institutional injustice.

    Therefore, the riots are not justifiable.

    Replies: @notsaying, @nokangaroos, @Chrisnonymous, @TheMassageIsTheMedium

    Nah … there has to be a more professional (read: idiot-proof) way of subduing large mentally disturbed Obama voters on steroids and PCP; being all dopers with high blood pressure they are susceptible to vagus shocks if you look at them sideways (of course only an utter crétin goes on a rampage in that condition and then resists – but I repeat myself ).

    Once upon a time tasers were the Great White Hope but only further worked into police lazyness and lack of CQ skills – and they are STILL not groid safe.

    Some kind of slime gun, maybe? 😀

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @nokangaroos


    Some kind of slime gun, maybe?
     
    I was thinking more along the lines of an instant Cyanocrylate that either bonds people to the floor...or glues their legs together so they simply topple over.

    (Anyone else remember the "tangler" round in the DS guns in Logan's Run?)
  195. Meanwhile a man named Jeffrey Fields sits in prison for life because he is accused of causing the death of some 5′ 300lb Antifa member who allegedly died from a heart attack. In case you have already thrown Fields under the bus, he was the one who had his car attacked by a mob of Antifa members wielding bats, lead pipes and one supposedly had an assault rifle. A mob of unruly Antifa douchebags blocked off the street and then started bashing in Field’s vehicles and would have likely pulled him out of the car and beat him to death if they could. What would you do IF you were attacked by a mob of 50 or so people with bats, lead pipes, who had the street blocked off? Fields was charged with 1st degree murder as if this whole act was planned in advance. And Fields is not alone, a few other members in Charlottesville, Virginia are serving lengthy sentences. One rescued an older gentleman who was being beaten with a flashlight by a “teen.” The “teen” served no jail time, the man who pulled the “teen” off the elderly white man received 8 years behind bars. One “teen” was walking around with a flame thrower and I think might have done a week, maybe a month at most in the county jail.

  196. Anonymous[128] • Disclaimer says:
    @Boethiuss
    iSteve commenters tend to misunderstand the impact of things like this, especially in its racial terms because that's where we all tend to believe that we're all race experts, that we're the ones who see the negative social impact of the vibrants when everybody else is out trying sell some feelgood bullshit. We know everything already there's no point in listening to everybody else.

    Blacks behaving badly does tend to motivate voters to vote Republican. But that's one, among all the things that a voter might consider. And right now, undocumented shopping by vibrants in Minneapolis doesn't stack up very high compared against a pandemic that threatens everybody's health and everybody's livelihood.

    When push comes to shove, Trump and the Trump campaign might be very effective in convincing American that Joe is sleepy and stupid. But it's not going to help, the voters will vote for him anyway. (If in fact the Presidential race comes down to Trump vs. Biden, and there's some chance that it won't imo).

    Replies: @Anonymous, @epebble, @sayless, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Anonymous, @jack daniels

    I’m going to go out on a limb here and posit the Historic Deadly Cuomovirus spiel may not fulfill its destiny as the universal miracle Santa Claus issue this year. Not many elected Democrats have demonstrated a pronounced degree of control over it (as distinct from a hopeless thespian tendency for decrying it, that’s been common).

    Anyway, when your party’s agenda is based on running up the score among the bureaucrat/New Class and ethnic mafia populations in a couple dozen cities it doesn’t accrue to the generic brand goodwill in swing states Hillary almost won yet seemed to consider morally suspect somehow

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @Anonymous


    I’m going to go out on a limb here and posit the Historic Deadly Cuomovirus spiel may not fulfill its destiny as the universal miracle Santa Claus issue this year. Not many elected Democrats have demonstrated a pronounced degree of control over it (as distinct from a hopeless thespian tendency for decrying it, that’s been common).
     
    No. The Democrats maybe haven't solved coronavirus or even performed appreciably better than any other political affiliation, but the one thing they haven't done is derped the issue like Trump has. It's the derp that kills. And as big as the impact has been, no one will ever forget it.

    Anyway, when your party’s agenda is based on running up the score among the bureaucrat/New Class and ethnic mafia populations in a couple dozen cities it doesn’t accrue to the generic brand goodwill in swing states Hillary almost won yet seemed to consider morally suspect somehow
     
    That's right. The Democratic Party in 2020 has lots of strategic and tactical weaknesses that we can't exploit because Trump.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  197. @epebble
    @Boethiuss

    The network evening news today all had various Police Chiefs from all across America making statements that what they saw in Minneapolis is condemnable and not policing. There was no conditional like let's wait for investigation to ascertain facts etc., I have not heard or read a single statement from anybody advocating let's wait before judging. So, this might just be galvanizing moment for America. To what end I don't understand. May be the whole nation is depressed due to Covid.

    Replies: @Boethiuss, @botazefa, @Saxon

    The network evening news today all had various Police Chiefs from all across America making statements that what they saw in Minneapolis is condemnable and not policing. There was no conditional like let’s wait for investigation to ascertain facts etc., I have not heard or read a single statement from anybody advocating let’s wait before judging. So, this might just be galvanizing moment for America. To what end I don’t understand. May be the whole nation is depressed due to Covid.

    Yeah, we’re in a completely different situation now, compared to the same thing happening in January or February. Normie white people are not going to do anything that’s perceived to politically empower Trump.

  198. @Ed
    @Almost Missouri

    The mayor gave the order for the police to stand down at the precinct. Here’s him responding to Trump, weak is an understatement:

    https://twitter.com/bylizsawyer/status/1266257642508349441?s=21

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anonymous, @Ganderson, @Hypnotoad666, @peterike, @Anonymous, @Menschmaschine, @Dieter Kief

    He is Jewish. So from his ethnical point of view he does not show weakness, quite the contrary.

  199. @t
    If he didn't do(99% chance) everyone who repeated this smear needs to be sued in bankruptcy.

    https://twitter.com/dyllyp/status/1266166402521522176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1266166402521522176&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unz.com%2Fanepigone%2Fdream-lovers-dont-dream-alone%2F

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Arne Pedersen, @George, @Alan Mercer, @ThreeCranes, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Buck Ransom, @BB753

    Sue Twitter into oblivion. Time and again, courts have ruled that Twitter et al may ban users or otherwise censor content as it is a matter of the company’s 1A rights. Putting aside the treatment of companies as people with rights, the precedents establish that speech on Twitter is Twitter’s. They are therefore liable here.

  200. Anonymous[128] • Disclaimer says:

    44,000-vote margin in MN seems less than formidable now, barring Klobuchar pick

  201. S says:
    @Morris Applebaum IV
    Is there any particular reason we want to keep this mess of a country together any longer? It's been obvious for decades that most of us would be happier breaking up into dozens of more manageable countries.

    How can you let rioters take over a police station?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_j8W-SDefU

    Replies: @S, @S

    How can you let rioters take over a police station?

    Speaking of another movie, 1972’s Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, I’ve always thought folks should quietly ask if this is how self declared ‘progressives’ do indeed see Blacks, ie as brute beasts?

    And, then quietly point out that if the progressive’s New England political and spiritual forebears (powerful elements and hangers on of the Anglo-Saxon and Jewish peoples) ran the North American slave trade as dealers, wouldn’t it make sense that such a depraved mentality and outlook would think along those lines?

    It’s the people that are opposed to where all this is headed, a totalitarian Orwellian police state, that can afford to be civil, and should be. It’s the so called progressives who can’t, as witnessed by their propensity for extreme violence towards those who are in disagreement with them

    ‘So Conquest of the Planet of the Apes re-interprets the Watts Riots and other race violence of the 1960s as one possible and even legitimate response to entrenched racial inequality in America. Caesar tells Mr. McDonald that the only means left to him and his people (the apes) is, indeed, revolution. “We cannot be free until we have power. How else can we achieve it?”’

    https://johnkennethmuir.wordpress.com/2010/01/23/cult-movie-review-conquest-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-1972/

  202. @Jonathan Mason
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    It was the equivalent of the Capitol Building in Washington DC being overrun and vandalized, and then there being no consequences whatever for nearly all of those involved.
     
    Could be, but I suspect that the modern policing way of dealing with riots is to let them run their course, monitor everything on cameras, preserve lives as much as possible, then track down the ringleaders later and arrest them at their homes at 5:00 a.m when no one is watching.

    That seemed to be how it went down initially with the London riots of 2011 from August 6th to August 11th after police shot and killed a local gangster who had just taken delivery of a handgun from an informer. The riots then spread to a dozen other cities.

    Then the police started to fight back. See graphic below.

    By August 15th 3,100 people had been arrested and charged with offenses ranging from receiving stolen goods to inciting riots on Facebook (sentenced to 4 years). By August 2012, 1292 rioters had been handed custodial sentences totaling 1,800 years at 16.8 months on an average.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots#Arrests_and_charges

    With the lock down, Covid-19, unemployment, and all, people have been waiting for some excuse to cut loose in a Summer of Discontent, and now there is one that everyone can take part in, whether as a political agitator or as a street gang member, casual looter, or even as a vigilante. Let the mischief begin.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023874/UK-riots-2011-16k-police-ready-use-plastic-bullets-lid-Londons-looters.html

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/10/article-2023874-0D5F467E00000578-318_964x1454.jpg

    Replies: @Neuday, @YetAnotherAnon, @Znzn, @Joe Stalin, @Corvinus

    Yeah, like the police are gonna deploy that against America’s Pets. Might as suggest the use of firehoses and German Shepherds.

  203. @Jonathan Mason
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    It was the equivalent of the Capitol Building in Washington DC being overrun and vandalized, and then there being no consequences whatever for nearly all of those involved.
     
    Could be, but I suspect that the modern policing way of dealing with riots is to let them run their course, monitor everything on cameras, preserve lives as much as possible, then track down the ringleaders later and arrest them at their homes at 5:00 a.m when no one is watching.

    That seemed to be how it went down initially with the London riots of 2011 from August 6th to August 11th after police shot and killed a local gangster who had just taken delivery of a handgun from an informer. The riots then spread to a dozen other cities.

    Then the police started to fight back. See graphic below.

    By August 15th 3,100 people had been arrested and charged with offenses ranging from receiving stolen goods to inciting riots on Facebook (sentenced to 4 years). By August 2012, 1292 rioters had been handed custodial sentences totaling 1,800 years at 16.8 months on an average.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots#Arrests_and_charges

    With the lock down, Covid-19, unemployment, and all, people have been waiting for some excuse to cut loose in a Summer of Discontent, and now there is one that everyone can take part in, whether as a political agitator or as a street gang member, casual looter, or even as a vigilante. Let the mischief begin.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023874/UK-riots-2011-16k-police-ready-use-plastic-bullets-lid-Londons-looters.html

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/10/article-2023874-0D5F467E00000578-318_964x1454.jpg

    Replies: @Neuday, @YetAnotherAnon, @Znzn, @Joe Stalin, @Corvinus

    “I suspect that the modern policing way of dealing with riots is to let them run their course, monitor everything on cameras, preserve lives as much as possible, then track down the ringleaders later and arrest them at their homes at 5:00 a.m when no one is watching”

    It’s a pity the government don’t make this explicit – then you wouldn’t have innocent white people like Richard Mannington Bowes beaten to death for trying to put out burning waste bins outside his house.

    Of course, if Mr Bowes had had thirty white neighbours at his side, he’d have been part of a “racist mob”.

    As Mr Mannington Bowes remonstrated with the group and tried to stamp out a fire in a bin Desuze felled punched him in the face and he fell smashing his head on the pavement.

    The barrister said left-handed Desuze threw his full weight behind a punch to Mr Bowes’s jaw, buckling his legs, knocking him unconscious and backwards where his head took the full force of impact on the road.

    Mr Bowes sustained ‘catastrophic brain injuries’ and never regained consciousness.

    After the attack it emerged Mr Mannington Bowes was a civic-minded man of old fashioned values who had been forced to confront yobs on his own doorstep for years.

    The reclusive former accountant had long been tormented by thugs who urinated on his front door and threw litter outside his home, according to friends and neighbours.

    However, his courage and habit of never walking away from something he considered wrong eventually cost him his life

    Which is why I don’t live in London, and wouldn’t even if I’d been raised there.

  204. Murder rate in the twin cities will go up now that police are abdicating.

    Thanks media!

  205. Certainly clear that state losing its legitimacy across the country. Murray Rothbard would be pleased.

    • Agree: Thea
    • LOL: LondonBob
    • Replies: @Thea
    @jtgw

    Once a new equilibrium is attained what form will it take?

    I think something lightly socialist with a policy like Brazil Or France where races aren’t recorded officially so no one can find gaps to get worked up over.

    Replies: @Saxon

    , @Coag
    @jtgw


    Certainly clear that state losing its legitimacy across the country. Murray Rothbard would be pleased.
     
    No. The rioters are not anarchists. They are Leninists. For them, the state is an essential who/whom weapon. They don’t want to abolish the state. They want a South African-style state to liquidate their race enemies.

    How many of the rioters collected food stamps, subsidized housing, covid benefits, and other paychecks signed by the state? They would be nothing without the state. Little Murray Rothbards, they ain’t.

    Replies: @Franz

  206. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Almost Missouri


    Abandoning police stations to rioters seems like a terrible decision.

     

    Exactly.

    Last year the HK protests, which initially were mostly peaceful and had widespread support, turned into riots in one fateful night, i.e. July 1st, when organized, antifa-style thugs broke into the HK Legislative Council building, and trashed the very chamber in which Legco deliberates.

    Hundreds of rioters were wandering around inside the building for hours, smashing the hell out of everything, right on live TV. The cops could have sealed off the doors and hauled in the whole lot, but they were called off.

    It was the equivalent of the Capitol Building in Washington DC being overrun and vandalized, and then there being no consequences whatever for nearly all of those involved.

    This pusillanimous signal opened the door to eight months of relentless rioting and destruction, which was cooled off only by the outbreak of COVID-19.

    The moral of the story: sometimes rioting doesn't just 'burn out' on its own. The MSP police are sending a terrible signal tonight; let's hope the bill to be paid for it isn't too steep.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jonathan Mason, @Anonymous, @Thea, @Chrisnonymous, @notsaying, @anon, @Stebbing Heuer

    The moral of the story: sometimes rioting doesn’t just ‘burn out’ on its own. The MSP police are sending a terrible signal tonight; let’s hope the bill to be paid for it isn’t too steep.

    Is the black population in MSP large enough to cause any widespread or enduring civil unrest problem? I tend to doubt it.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Anonymous

    Minneapolis is 19 percent black. St Paul 13 percent that’s plenty to destroy a city. And St Paul is the state capital.

    10 percent is the tipping point.

  207. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous


    ... a white lady VP will kill black turnout as well.
    They don’t want to be lectured by a white lady for 4 years.
     
    Does anyone?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @fish, @Alfa158

    … a white lady VP will kill black turnout as well.
    They don’t want to be lectured by a white lady for 4 years.

    Does anyone?

    Who would you rather be lectured by?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous



    Who would you rather be lectured by?
     
    I don't want to be lectured by anyone. And certainly not some politician.

    A leaders' job is to lead. Sometimes that means explaining/convincing the people why its best to charge over that hill.

    But no one loves getting a lecture. And many female politicians think some combination of schoolmarmish finger wagging, in between bouts of woe is us emoting about this or that--both classic female styles--are "leadership". They are not.

    BTW, while these are feminine characteristics, this applies to men as well. Jimmy Carter turned out to be prone to a sort of schoolmarmish hectoring and Americans got sick of it quickly and voted him out. (I voted for him in '76 and by late '77 was sick of the guy. When he gave his "malaise" speech, my reaction was ... "I know how we can fix that!")
  208. @Reg Cæsar
    @Dieter Kief

    Well, it may not look brutalist, but it sure feels brutalist. I guess you have to be there to get the full effect.


    Never mind "Six Flags". This neighborhood, judging by another nearby, beats that easily:


    Before the City of Minneapolis took control, Bancroft was part of:



    France’s American empire 1680-1763

    Spain’s American empire 1763-1803

    the District of Louisiana 1804-1805

    Louisiana Territory 1805-1812

    Missouri Territory 1812-1821

    Fort Snelling Reservation 1820-1849

    Michigan Territory 1834-1836

    Wisconsin Territory 1836-1838

    Iowa Territory 1838-1846

    Minnesota Territory 1849-1858

    Richfield Township 1858-1867

    Minneapolis Township 1867-1887



    Bancroft was in Ward 11 from 1887 to 1891, Ward 7 from 1891 to 1947, Ward 11 again from 1947 to 1961, and has been in Ward 8 since 1961. Our neighborhood was part of Park District #33 from 1917 to 1963, #35 from 1963 to 1969, and #5 since 1969.

    https://www.bancroftneighborhood.org/bancrofthistory

     

    I don't know if "bikers" on this map refers to motor bikes or to acoustic ones, but extend the Philips/Powderhorn boundary a couple blocks into Longfellow, and you've got the site of the police station. Target is across the street to the north.


    http://stmedia.stimg.co/ctyp_6548314judgempls.jpg?w=800


    My kid was in a Cub Scout pack a few blocks to the south as recently as four years ago. I took him there a lot, sometimes by bus. Can't imagine doing that now. Though the Scouts will have plenty of improvement work to look forward to now.

    Replies: @Elf Himself, @fish

    Though the Scouts will have plenty of improvement work to look forward to now.

    Is there a merit badge for learning to operate demolition equipment?

  209. @jtgw
    Certainly clear that state losing its legitimacy across the country. Murray Rothbard would be pleased.

    Replies: @Thea, @Coag

    Once a new equilibrium is attained what form will it take?

    I think something lightly socialist with a policy like Brazil Or France where races aren’t recorded officially so no one can find gaps to get worked up over.

    • Replies: @Saxon
    @Thea

    Except in France and Canada where this stuff is all hidden, they still complain. It's just that there's no data you can use to prove they're wrong and how, so it just becomes pure narrative and control of megaphone at that point. Big surprise also that in those countries you still have all of the anti-white policies with all of the same justifications. You can't live with racial alien masses long term. It's pure poison.

  210. @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous


    ... a white lady VP will kill black turnout as well.
    They don’t want to be lectured by a white lady for 4 years.
     
    Does anyone?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @fish, @Alfa158

    Does anyone?

    Progressive America is still livid at not getting their daily scolding from Mme Clinton……

  211. @Jonathan Mason
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    It was the equivalent of the Capitol Building in Washington DC being overrun and vandalized, and then there being no consequences whatever for nearly all of those involved.
     
    Could be, but I suspect that the modern policing way of dealing with riots is to let them run their course, monitor everything on cameras, preserve lives as much as possible, then track down the ringleaders later and arrest them at their homes at 5:00 a.m when no one is watching.

    That seemed to be how it went down initially with the London riots of 2011 from August 6th to August 11th after police shot and killed a local gangster who had just taken delivery of a handgun from an informer. The riots then spread to a dozen other cities.

    Then the police started to fight back. See graphic below.

    By August 15th 3,100 people had been arrested and charged with offenses ranging from receiving stolen goods to inciting riots on Facebook (sentenced to 4 years). By August 2012, 1292 rioters had been handed custodial sentences totaling 1,800 years at 16.8 months on an average.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots#Arrests_and_charges

    With the lock down, Covid-19, unemployment, and all, people have been waiting for some excuse to cut loose in a Summer of Discontent, and now there is one that everyone can take part in, whether as a political agitator or as a street gang member, casual looter, or even as a vigilante. Let the mischief begin.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023874/UK-riots-2011-16k-police-ready-use-plastic-bullets-lid-Londons-looters.html

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/10/article-2023874-0D5F467E00000578-318_964x1454.jpg

    Replies: @Neuday, @YetAnotherAnon, @Znzn, @Joe Stalin, @Corvinus

    They should all just be machine gunned.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Znzn

    Trouble is some of the dead looters will be A student 14 year old girls whose ambition was to be a doctor.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Znzn

    ZnZn, a late friend of mine was an Army MP during the WWII Detroit race riots. He told me and I believed him that he fired his Thompson at the rioters. Different times.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  212. Anon[266] • Disclaimer says:
    @Arclight
    Although MN leans Democratic, the suburbs don't think much of the politics of Minneapolis and to a lesser extent St. Paul. Trump should just sit back and do nothing - let the local politicians in charge of the urban cores of the Twin Cities flounder and fail, and it's a reminder to the rest of the metro area (which far outnumbers the cities proper) of what is headed their way eventually.

    MN is too nice for its own good. They had a good thing going, got high on the the diversity/refugee resettlement BS, and now have guaranteed themselves urban problems forever.

    Replies: @Anon

    Yep, let them raze Minneapolis for another week. It will serve as a nice reminder to any dopey upper midwest Protestants & Lutherans that multiculturalism will have a large price, moving forward. Give them something to think about when they vote for Biden & Minority Co.

    Minneapolis is the perfect city for this actually, because it’s always been portrayed as a post-racial utopia.

    Maybe they can burn down Madison WI next?

    • Replies: @Arclight
    @Anon

    It would be similar - both don't actually have a lot of blacks residents, but despite causing a huge amount of social disorder they get treated deferentially by the politicians and other progressives. Hopefully this is a redpill moment for a lot of clueless Midwesterners.

    Replies: @sayless

  213. @Reg Cæsar
    As with the World Trade Center, it was an ugly monstrosity, in this case diluted Brutalist, and I'm glad to see it gone.

    Just not in this fashion. There are protocols for condemnation and proper demolition.


    https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3650/3393102868_c4694da83b.jpg


    Across the street is this more welcoming institution:


    https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3420/3393103180_3d3dba32b5.jpg


    A few doors down is the city's county's East Lake Library, which is probably still untouched because, you know, ain't nuthin' of value in there. In-between was the former Town Talk Diner, where I had my first, and last, Guinness float.

    NB: Should you ever order one of these, either drink it quickly and eat it slowly, or the other way around. Don't let them infuse each other.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Barnard, @Chrisnonymous, @sayless

    American Renaissance has had previous reports on the East Library. It was filled with anti-ICE propaganda and according to a since deleted Yelp review, the area homeless used the bathrooms to shoot up drugs without interruption. The looters smashed the windows, but it doesn’t appear they stole anything.

  214. @snorlax
    @22pp22

    Non-Hispanic whites are already a minority in CA. They haven't even been a plurality for years. Even self-identified whites (i.e. including Hispanics) are well on their way to minority status.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_California#Racial/Ethnic_makeup

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    Just yesterday I found out that another long-time CA family is leaving for Idaho. White conservative Christians, of course.

    Also yesterday, an old friend from way back talked about his CA exit plan and his worry that he won’t get a good price for his real estate. White conservative, but this time a total atheist and rather crazy. Idaho may not want him.

  215. @Ed
    @Boethiuss

    It very well could turn Minnesota Red. Trump’s tweet about shooting the looters was spot on. Meanwhile the Dems paralyzed by fear over what to do including allowing a police building to burn will only harm them.

    Twitter isn’t real life and folks want to be safe.

    Replies: @anon, @Boethiuss, @Barnard

    Nearly everyone who cares about law and order already votes Republican. An increasing number of them do so with extreme reluctance because of the worthless nature of the Republican party. Based on what people are posting online, the riots aren’t changing the minds of very many blank slaters who think we can all live in peace and harmony.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Barnard

    Barnard, truth is everyone cares about law and order, but some people think it is more woke to pretend they don't, until crime or violence visits them or their loved ones.

  216. @Anonymous
    @Whiskey

    This is a net positive for Republicans.

    More of this forces Biden to pick a black VP, which won't help much in a national election. It will likely be, in order of likelihood, (1) Kamala, (2) Val Demings or (3) Michelle Obama as a wild card.

    In normal times, Val Demings could be the law & order sensible black. But she is a total unknown and running a black cop right now will hurt turnout among blacks.

    Biden with a sensible nice white lady VP would be hard to beat, considering Trump's performance in the past few months. But with the emerging Karen meme, a white lady VP will kill black turnout as well. They don't want to be lectured by a white lady for 4 years.

    As far as I'm concerned, let more of these Blue cities go up in flames. It only helps.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Jay Fink, @Buck Ransom, @MEH 0910, @Daniel H

    But would Kamala stimulate black turnout? They sure didn’t come out for her during the primaries. Plus being a Prosecutor is a liability to many blacks.

  217. @t
    If he didn't do(99% chance) everyone who repeated this smear needs to be sued in bankruptcy.

    https://twitter.com/dyllyp/status/1266166402521522176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1266166402521522176&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unz.com%2Fanepigone%2Fdream-lovers-dont-dream-alone%2F

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Arne Pedersen, @George, @Alan Mercer, @ThreeCranes, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Buck Ransom, @BB753

    He even wore contact lenses to change his eye color from brown to blue! (not)

  218. CNBC Reporter-nerd: “I want to be clear on how I characterize this. This is mostly a protest. It is not generally speaking unruly.”

    I wish someone had run in from stage right, snatched his glasses off, and ran away laughing. That would have been unruly.

    • LOL: GoRedWings!
  219. @David
    I've seen two videos of the George Floyd arrest. In the first, he's removed from a vehicle and cuffed. He's clearly wasted and immediately complaining about the pain he's in. After a few minutes, he's led across the street, away from his vehicle, and about to be placed in a cop car. When the next video opens, the cop is kneeling on Floyd's neck back on the original side of the street. It seems to me, the only way he could have gotten there is if, just after the first video cuts out, he broke away from the cops leading him and fled back to his vehicle. The moments between the two videos were recorded, are in the possession of prosecutors, who are saying all is not as it appears.

    Replies: @David

    I’m wrong. I just saw a third video. Floyd’s on the ground next to a police vehicle, not his own.

  220. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Almost Missouri


    Abandoning police stations to rioters seems like a terrible decision.

     

    Exactly.

    Last year the HK protests, which initially were mostly peaceful and had widespread support, turned into riots in one fateful night, i.e. July 1st, when organized, antifa-style thugs broke into the HK Legislative Council building, and trashed the very chamber in which Legco deliberates.

    Hundreds of rioters were wandering around inside the building for hours, smashing the hell out of everything, right on live TV. The cops could have sealed off the doors and hauled in the whole lot, but they were called off.

    It was the equivalent of the Capitol Building in Washington DC being overrun and vandalized, and then there being no consequences whatever for nearly all of those involved.

    This pusillanimous signal opened the door to eight months of relentless rioting and destruction, which was cooled off only by the outbreak of COVID-19.

    The moral of the story: sometimes rioting doesn't just 'burn out' on its own. The MSP police are sending a terrible signal tonight; let's hope the bill to be paid for it isn't too steep.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jonathan Mason, @Anonymous, @Thea, @Chrisnonymous, @notsaying, @anon, @Stebbing Heuer

    That is why China will win.

  221. @Whiskey
    @Tusk

    Which data point makes more sense? In 2016 we had sniper fire. No mob to appease. In 1992 we had the mob. Lesson do what Black people order or you burnt out. Vote Dem you don't get hurt.

    That has been the ploy since FDR and Detroit 1943. It always works.

    My guess is total rout like the cops and the Purge movies become reality for Whiteys at Bidens inaugural.

    Replies: @Tusk, @Cloudbuster, @indocon, @ben tillman

    Whiskey I have read your comments with deep interest or past few years, but I think you were going off the deck here my friend. Who ruled Detroit, Newark, Chicago, Watts when they all had their riots…..democrats. Minneapolis is one of the most democratic metropolitan areas when you include the suburbs, a par with Bay Area. The attorney general is a follower of Louis Farrakhan.

    • Replies: @e
    @indocon

    It would never surprise me if Keith Ellison and his Dem friends called in Antifa.

  222. @Franz
    You hear the laughter?

    It's coming from Iran and Russia and all the (many) other nations threatened, attacked, and otherwise slagged by ZOG's golem. I'll bet all the USA's enemies are having parties and toasting this right now.

    Stupid words come back to haunt stupid people, and the stupidest was this:

    If we have to use force, it is because we are America. We are the indispensable nation. We stand tall. We see further into the future.

    Madeleine Albright, February 19, 1998

     

    The Greeks called it hubris and it always bites the ass that can't resist falling into it.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Almost Missouri, @Anon

    The people burning down the cities are demons and so are you for cheering it on. When you die, you’re not going to be judged by what country you’re from. Every individual is responsible for their own actions.

    • Replies: @Franz
    @Anon


    The people burning down the cities are demons and so are you for cheering it on.
     
    You miss the point.

    The USA is busy telling the world it's the only model to follow, often bombing them when they disagree, and can't keep peace on its own streets.

    Why should the recipients of American bombs not see this as divine retribution? Or at least what goes around comes around? And why should they not feel a bit of satisfaction when chickens come home to roost?

    Off course it was the rich (such as rich bitch Mad Madeline Albright) who sent the dogs out, and poor American will pay the price. It's always like that. Till ordinary folks find a way to remove the real demons, this will continue till there's nothing left.

    Replies: @Anon

  223. anon[187] • Disclaimer says:

    …the crowd invading the police precinct [was] mostly white trustafarians.

    That’s interesting. How long ago did this story break? Minneapolis-area white trustafarians – i.e. Antifa – got organised pretty fast.

    Logically, either:

    – This event was so outrageous that disorganised white protestors were numerous and angry enough to burn down a police station
    – Minneapolis-area Antifa is extremely well-organised and can respond at a moment’s notice
    – Minneapolis-area Antifa is not that well-organised, and therefore had some advance warning
    – Minneapolis-area Antifa is not responsible, i.e., these are non-local Antifa soldiers

    Now there’s
    Trouble busin’ in from out of state
    And the D.A. can’t get no relief…

  224. @Dave Pinsen
    @Cagey Beast

    Looks like a Target/Police Precinct dichotomy, with the crowd looting the stores mostly black, and the crowd invading the police precinct mostly white trustafarians.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @Chrisnonymous, @SunBakedSuburb

    I noticed the same thing watching the live feeds last night. The white trustafarians (antifa? bored zoomers? agent provocateurs sponsored by bad actors? some mix thereof?) were also the rioters using more organized tactics like pointing blinding lasers at helicopters and police, cutting gas lines, etc. They wore masks. And they were setting off firecrackers near the burning police station. Black rioters were mostly unmasked, appeared to mainly be looting, and there were more of them out during the daytime relative to night, though a few hippie/woke looking blacks were sprinkled into the trustafarian burning police precinct crowd.

    And then there is the question of the gas-mask umbrella-toting white man, alleged to be a St. Paul cop by social media, who broke the windows of the first store to be looted, the Autozone. He also spray-painted something like “free shit zone” on the walls. One of the protestors asked what he was doing and he got angry. What was this guy’s motive?

    All odd. And now turns out Chauvin and Floyd worked together as bouncers for a Mexican bar? And the police can arrest a CNN reporter on live tv but can’t do anything else to hem in the chaos?

    Something about this is starting to feel rather theatrical. Some bad actors (I really don’t know who, I suspect antifa, but I wouldn’t rule out foreign intelligence, either) are taking advantage of the anger/protests over a legitimate police brutality incident, and are allowing it to escalate (and even encouraging escalation) for political reasons.

  225. China is already laughing about this. They don’t allow this kind of thing there.

    Amerika is a Powder Keg.

    Civil War II could break out any minute now.

  226. The big question is, how much of this is African Americans pissed of for racial reasosn, and how much of this is Americans in general pissed off and because of the lock down. Even liberals who nominally support the lockdown are upset because of the lockdown.

    • Replies: @PSR
    @Kyle

    You left out how much is caused by white 'youths' having fun by getting out of their parents' basements for a while and black 'youths' after free stuff?

  227. Anonymous[128] • Disclaimer says:

    Love this from Keith Ellison today (around the 1 min mark):

    Here’s what I say to the people who have protested: you have made your point
    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/minnesota-attorney-general-keith-ellison-on-george-floyds-death-protests/

    OK, OK, enough of that “protesting,” guys! Save some for the red states

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78-4USZ_3AM
    http://www.uspa24.com/bericht-6316/general-de-gaulle-4-june-1958-speech-made-in-algiers-during-the-colonies.html

  228. @Anonymous
    @JSQ

    Nonsense. The white rioters aren't rioting out of some deep sense of discontent, or even out of genuine outrage at this particular wrongful death. They just wanna have fun LARPing as cool, badass anti-establishment revolutionaries.

    Replies: @John Achterhof, @Anonymous, @S. Anonyia, @Buck Ransom

    Nah, I think they were cooped up throughout COVID and saw an opportunity to join in on the chaos/plunder. You’ve got to think many of them probably lost jobs or are furloughed. Also, it helped that masks are socially acceptable…

  229. That was a rather extreme form of the blue flu. They didn’t just call in sick, they actually evacuated the building en masse. Maybe they decided to send a message to the city government and citizens. “There you go, no police brutality, nothing to complain about now”. We are seeing increasingly more of this siege mentality in the police, they regard all civilians as potential problems and just want to get through their brief careers and collect that sweet big city emergency responder pension.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Alfa158

    Mayor Frey was on TV this morning and stated he gave the order to withdraw.

  230. @Ed
    @Almost Missouri

    The mayor gave the order for the police to stand down at the precinct. Here’s him responding to Trump, weak is an understatement:

    https://twitter.com/bylizsawyer/status/1266257642508349441?s=21

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anonymous, @Ganderson, @Hypnotoad666, @peterike, @Anonymous, @Menschmaschine, @Dieter Kief

    I mean, he sure behaves and talks nice and all. If only he would not look like somebody who is acting for some split seconds – that ruins pretty much everything.

  231. @indocon
    @Daniel Williams

    Trump needs to stay back and let this burn for a few more days, then send in the full deployment of US Army, arrest all these white punks and send them to federal jails in the south

    Replies: @J.Ross, @VinnyVette, @botazefa, @Pericles

    Trump needs to stay back and let this burn for a few more days, then send in the full deployment of US Army, arrest all these white punks and send them to federal jails in the south

    The US Army is not the continental Presidential police force, is it?

    I don’t think it is legal to deploy the Army the way you are describing. National Guard yes, Army no. Feds can invade States.

    Am I wrong, indocon?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @botazefa


    I don’t think it is legal to deploy the Army the way you are describing. National Guard yes, Army no. Feds can invade States.

    Am I wrong, indocon?
     
    1957, Little Rock, Eisenhower, 101st Airborne deployed to escort 9 high school students to class over objections of state residents an State governor.
    , @huisache
    @botazefa

    the US Army invaded my state in 1861 with a lot less provocation than this

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Stunned Billionaire
    @botazefa

    Also, the Detroit riots in 1967 when President Lyndon Johnson used the Insurrection Act to send in the United States Army's 82nd and 101st Airborne Divisions.

    Wikipedia;

    "Shortly before midnight on Monday, July 24, President Johnson authorized the use of federal troops in compliance with the Insurrection Act of 1807, which authorizes the President to call in armed forces to fight an insurrection in any state against the government. This gave Detroit the distinction of being the only domestic American city to have been occupied by federal troops three times...

    ... Starting at 1:30 on Tuesday, July 25, some 8,000 Michigan Army National Guardsmen were deployed to quell the disorder. Later, their number would be augmented with 4,700 paratroopers from both the 82nd and 101st Airborne Divisions, and 360 Michigan State Police officers."

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

  232. @Reg Cæsar
    As with the World Trade Center, it was an ugly monstrosity, in this case diluted Brutalist, and I'm glad to see it gone.

    Just not in this fashion. There are protocols for condemnation and proper demolition.


    https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3650/3393102868_c4694da83b.jpg


    Across the street is this more welcoming institution:


    https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3420/3393103180_3d3dba32b5.jpg


    A few doors down is the city's county's East Lake Library, which is probably still untouched because, you know, ain't nuthin' of value in there. In-between was the former Town Talk Diner, where I had my first, and last, Guinness float.

    NB: Should you ever order one of these, either drink it quickly and eat it slowly, or the other way around. Don't let them infuse each other.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Barnard, @Chrisnonymous, @sayless

    Guiness should be saved for Evelyn Waugh’s “Noonday Reviver”. Ice cream should be saved for children.

  233. e says:
    @Boethiuss
    @Ed


    It very well could turn Minnesota Red. Trump’s tweet about shooting the looters was spot on. Meanwhile the Dems paralyzed by fear over what to do including allowing a police building to burn will only harm them.
     
    In another world it just might. But in this world white people already know what they think about Trump, and the Republican Party with Trump as its leader, and the answer isn't very good. Riots or no riots, there no reason to change their mind.

    Replies: @e, @Anonymous, @vinteuil

    In another world it just might. But in this world white people already know what they think about Trump, and the Republican Party with Trump as its leader, and the answer isn’t very good. Riots or no riots, there no reason to change their mind.

    Wrong. As POTUS he hasn’t changed what he said when he was Citizen Trump about such behavior. and people know and appreciate that: they are “thugs” and they play this game for fun and profit and everyone knows it.

    More votes for the Donald in MN.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @e


    Wrong. As POTUS he hasn’t changed what he said when he was Citizen Trump about such behavior. and people know and appreciate that......
     
    They might, it doesn't mean they're going to vote for him, which has been a theme of the Trump Presidency for a long time now. People, especially normie white voters, might very well agree with Trump about this or that, but they are very reluctant at best to politically empower Trump, and most likely will simply refuse to do it under any circumstance.

    How much do we really expect normie white voters to be persuaded by undocumented shopping in Minneapolis when the world is being turned upside down by the coronavirus?
  234. @Dave Pinsen
    @Cagey Beast

    Looks like a Target/Police Precinct dichotomy, with the crowd looting the stores mostly black, and the crowd invading the police precinct mostly white trustafarians.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @Chrisnonymous, @SunBakedSuburb

    Of course. Grabbit versus purpose and cooperation.

  235. @notsaying
    @Anonymous

    Not deliberate? How was it not deliberate?

    Are you saying this was an accident?

    Replies: @JimB, @Anonymous, @Jus' Sayin'..., @jb, @AnotherDad

    Deliberate implies that this cop intended that his actions kill the Negro upon whose neck he was kneeling. I very much doubt this and it would be impossible to prove in a criminal trial. However, one could argue that this cop’s actions were reckless to the point of clearly endangering the Negro’s life. This seems obvious to me and I’m sure it would be to most juries. The bottom line is that this one cop deserves to be fired from the police force, he deserves to do prison time for some form of homicide (not murder), and he’ll probably face civil liabilities that will make the rest of his life an endless misery.

    In other words, he’ll force punishment commensurate with that received by this other Minneapolis cop https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/04/30/minnesota-police-officer-convicted-murder-fatal-shooting-australian-woman-who-called/ but for a less egregious violation of police procedures and a homicide far less close to an open execution. I wonder why Minneapolis’s White population didn’t riot back then, maybe burn down a few KFC’s, halal butcher shops, and hair straightening joints?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jus' Sayin'...


    The bottom line is that this one cop deserves to be fired from the police force, he deserves to do prison time for some form of homicide (not murder), and he’ll probably face civil liabilities that will make the rest of his life an endless misery.
     
    It depends on what police practices are when a large, powerful man is resisting arrest. It depends on how much pressure the officer was actually applying to Chauvin’s neck and back.It depends on how aware he was of where the pressure was applied. It depends on whether he was aware he was harming Chauvin. (Arrestees commonly and falsely claim that the “can’t breathe.”) It depends on what his intention was. It depends on the cause of death.

    By some appearances, the officer was not aware of what was going on with Floyd. Does he deserve to have his life destroyed for a mistake?

    Replies: @Truth, @TheMassageIsTheMedium

  236. jb says:
    @notsaying
    @Anonymous

    Not deliberate? How was it not deliberate?

    Are you saying this was an accident?

    Replies: @JimB, @Anonymous, @Jus' Sayin'..., @jb, @AnotherDad

    Not deliberate in the sense that they didn’t intend or expect Floyd to die (that much seems obvious), so not 1st or 2nd degree murder. But manslaughter is clearly on the table.

    I do find it absolutely astonishing that a police officer, knowing that he is being videotaped, could be kneeling on the neck of a black man, hear him say “I can’t breath! I can’t breath!”, and not have a little warning sign start flashing in his head saying “uh oh, potential problem!” Maybe they really do do this all the time…?

    • Agree: PSR
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @jb


    I do find it absolutely astonishing that a police officer, knowing that he is being videotaped, could be kneeling on the neck of a black man, hear him say “I can’t breath! I can’t breath!”, and not have a little warning sign start flashing in his head saying “uh oh, potential problem!” Maybe they really do do this all the time…?
     
    It isn’t uncommon for an arrestee to claim (falsely) that he cannot breath. Ask an urban police officer. Besides, if you are talking normally, you are breathing. At some point Floyd, stopped taking and went silent.

    Chauvin seemed weirdly unaware of what was going on.
  237. Lol.

    Klobuchar refused to charge the MN arresting officer over a previous shooting, when she was the DA.

    She is toast.

  238. @Nicholas Stix
    There's no point paying for police in Minneapolis, if they aren't permitted to do their jobs. The same is probably true for teachers. The taxpayers need to go on a tax strike.

    Replies: @Tsar Nicholas, @Jane Plain

    You are insane.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @Jane Plain

    I think you need to apologize, and then drink a nice, hot cup of of STFU, Jane.

  239. @Hypnotoad666
    @Ed

    Wow. Frey makes Justin Trudeau seem like a tough guy.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Wow. Frey makes Justin Trudeau seem like a tough guy.

    Never mind his dad:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Crisis

    Mike Myers notes the irony of “liberal” Pierre, rather than Richard Nixon, resorting to martial law. But he was praised for doing so.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Reg Cæsar


    Wow. Frey makes Justin Trudeau seem like a tough guy.

    Never mind his dad:
     
    Brah, you got that right...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP31yJ6mAwE

    Replies: @Alden, @Reg Cæsar, @Cortes

  240. @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous


    ... a white lady VP will kill black turnout as well.
    They don’t want to be lectured by a white lady for 4 years.
     
    Does anyone?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @fish, @Alfa158

    Some of us have been getting lectured by a White lady for years or even decades. It’s not that bad, all you have to do is pretend you’re listening and throw in an occasional “yes dear” to make them think you are listening.

    • LOL: Buffalo Joe
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Alfa158


    Some of us have been getting lectured by a White lady for years or even decades. It’s not that bad, all you have to do is pretend you’re listening and throw in an occasional “yes dear” to make them think you are listening.
     
    Agreed. My carpet installer was joking with me about that a couple hours back.

    But there are rules about which women this applies to.
    , @Truth
    @Alfa158

    HAHAHA!

    I went to another city for my best friend from childhood's third wedding last year. A few days before the wedding we were driving around taking care of last minute details. His wife calls and asks him a bunch of 'what-man-would-give-a-fuck' questions about flowers at the wedding and all that over the speaker phone. He goes through that exact "yes-dear, yes-dear" routine, then she hit him with a "non-yes-or-no-answer" question. He answered, "yes" She asked him again. He answered with phony interest in his voice "yes honey I fully agree." She said "that wasn't a yes or no question...," with audible anger in her voice.

    Nine months later he was divorced for the third time.

    Replies: @allensheep, @wren

  241. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Almost Missouri


    Abandoning police stations to rioters seems like a terrible decision.

     

    Exactly.

    Last year the HK protests, which initially were mostly peaceful and had widespread support, turned into riots in one fateful night, i.e. July 1st, when organized, antifa-style thugs broke into the HK Legislative Council building, and trashed the very chamber in which Legco deliberates.

    Hundreds of rioters were wandering around inside the building for hours, smashing the hell out of everything, right on live TV. The cops could have sealed off the doors and hauled in the whole lot, but they were called off.

    It was the equivalent of the Capitol Building in Washington DC being overrun and vandalized, and then there being no consequences whatever for nearly all of those involved.

    This pusillanimous signal opened the door to eight months of relentless rioting and destruction, which was cooled off only by the outbreak of COVID-19.

    The moral of the story: sometimes rioting doesn't just 'burn out' on its own. The MSP police are sending a terrible signal tonight; let's hope the bill to be paid for it isn't too steep.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jonathan Mason, @Anonymous, @Thea, @Chrisnonymous, @notsaying, @anon, @Stebbing Heuer

    Are you going to exit HK at some point or be a Calvinist martyr and stay?

  242. @epebble
    @Boethiuss

    The network evening news today all had various Police Chiefs from all across America making statements that what they saw in Minneapolis is condemnable and not policing. There was no conditional like let's wait for investigation to ascertain facts etc., I have not heard or read a single statement from anybody advocating let's wait before judging. So, this might just be galvanizing moment for America. To what end I don't understand. May be the whole nation is depressed due to Covid.

    Replies: @Boethiuss, @botazefa, @Saxon

    May be the whole nation is depressed due to Covid.

    Maybe it is the natural consequence of implementing moronic CDC guidelines and laying off 40 million people.

  243. @Haole
    Rich New Yorkers are already buying Hawaii real estate because we have almost no Covid 19 cases. We are one of the few US cities with no blacks which is going to draw more rich people. I suppose the Ozarks will get an influx too, one of the few whites only parts of the south and you can live real cheap there.

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian

    Hawaii is already lost to the left. But, as usual when New Yawkers move to your area, they will bring their bullshit leftist politics with them, so if what you predict about their moving to the Ozarks is true, well then, look out Ozarks, ’cause here come the shitlibs.

    • Agree: sayless
  244. @notsaying
    @Anonymous

    Not deliberate? How was it not deliberate?

    Are you saying this was an accident?

    Replies: @JimB, @Anonymous, @Jus' Sayin'..., @jb, @AnotherDad

    Not deliberate? How was it not deliberate?

    Are you saying this was an accident?

    The action was intentional, the result was not.

    Lots of things are like this. The guy who is going a 100, weaving in and out of traffic, then has an “accident”. The guy who gets plastered and nonetheless drives and has an “accident”.

    Lots of intentional actions cause unintentional results. And people need to be held accountable for them–especially when the bad result is reasonably foreseeable, or the action is reckless or illegal.

  245. @Dave Pinsen
    @Cagey Beast

    Looks like a Target/Police Precinct dichotomy, with the crowd looting the stores mostly black, and the crowd invading the police precinct mostly white trustafarians.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @Chrisnonymous, @SunBakedSuburb

    A lot of young white guys with skinny arms, some wearing black. Antifa jackasses, champions of the pre-1968 negro, seizing on an opportunity.

  246. @Whiskey
    Its over. Its like the Rodney King Riots in 1992. That got Bill Clinton elected. Pure and simple.

    Black people riot, burn stuff down, beat down Whites. And Whites surrender and do what they are told.

    That video of police running away is a metaphor for Trump and White America. Heck there may not be a Republican left.

    Its like 9/11 -- we got unlimited Muslim immigration, mosques all over the place, the Empire State Building lit up for Eid (what the hell is that Holiday? Its not a real holiday like Christmas and Easter and Halloween).

    Replies: @Tusk, @Anonymous, @JMcG, @Anonymous, @JohnPlywood, @e, @AnotherDad, @ben tillman

    Are you crazy?

    There isn’t anyone in the country that doesn’t know MN is lib territory and this is how lib territory ends. In flames.

    Being nice to thugs makes them more thuggish.

    This isn’t about whites or blacks–it’s about PROGRESSIVES and what they spawn.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @e

    Keith Ellison X is predicting massive Black turnout. The 1992 riots gave us 8 years of Clintons

  247. @Tusk
    @Whiskey

    On the other hand people, including Steve, argue that BLM elected Trump.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Whiskey, @Reg Cæsar, @fnn

    And what good did that do? The only thing I can think of is that now it’s only the insane who mock the idea of “the deep state.”

  248. One thing that does not get discussed is the role of CNN in instigating riots and acting as agent-provocateurs for political protests and demonstrations.

    I became aware of this when I was in Port-au-Prince, Haiti just after the 2010 earthquake disaster and saw a CNN camera crew set up on an upstairs balcony near the presidential palace and handing out placards, markers, and English language dictionaries so that protesters could hold up nice legible signs in English for the cameras. And of course people who wanted to protest would naturally congregate facing the sunset where the cameras could get a nice angle on them

    (In Port-au-Prince I also saw Anderson Cooper tooling around the city on the back of a brown pickup truck wearing a tight black tee shirt and looking for good places to pose in front of places where a lot of people had been killed.)

    It appears to me that CNN does this kind of thing all over the world from China to Egypt and back again, and then a special thrill for them is if one of their reporters is arrested or attacked by bystanders, which is a special badge of honor for the reporter. OMG, the freedom of the press is under attack!

    So, by having the cameras set up outside the police station, CNN is inviting demonstrators to attack the police station. Their camera crew probably deserved to be arrested. A pity they were not given a larger dose of their own medicine.

    Well, I guess it all makes for good TV and sells soap.

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @anon
    @Jonathan Mason

    https://patpgmr.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/tdscartoon.jpg

    , @anon
    @Jonathan Mason

    One thing that does not get discussed is the role of CNN in instigating riots and acting as agent-provocateurs for political protests and demonstrations.

    Who would discuss it, PBS? The role of [media] in causing events they can then report on goes back in time before CNN existed. More than one camera crew busted in the 60's urging various protestors to do stuff, even asking "Can you back up and come down the street again"?

    Not to mention the Spanish-American war in the 1890's, in which NYC yellow journalism played a prominent role. Depicted in a famous movie...."You provide the anecdotes...I'll provide the war".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmWqTGU6MUc

    , @Dtbb
    @Jonathan Mason

    I call the media Kaopectate salesmen.

    , @VinnyVette
    @Jonathan Mason

    The bastards were arrested! But released an hour later... So they got a small "taste"!
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-reporter-crew-arrested-then-freed.amp&ved=2ahUKEwixxanF0dnpAhX4lHIEHdySAswQ0PADegQICRAN&usg=AOvVaw1klV1EDNhZqiwD__9xSqDy&ampcf=1

    , @VinnyVette
    @Jonathan Mason

    The bastards were arrested, but released an hour later. So they had a small "taste"!
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-reporter-crew-arrested-then-freed.amp&ved=2ahUKEwixxanF0dnpAhX4lHIEHdySAswQ0PADegQICRAN&usg=AOvVaw1klV1EDNhZqiwD__9xSqDy&ampcf=1

    , @PSR
    @Jonathan Mason

    There is a well-known picture of Anderson Cooper standing waist deep in water covering some natural disaster while his camera - about eight feet away - is in ankle deep water. I think there was another video showing a CNN producer moving the only 8 or 10 'protesters' at some even closer together behind the reporter to make it look like a real mob. So, yeah, this is the norm, at CNN at least.

  249. If the rioters arent arrested, how do we dissuade this from happening again?

  250. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/MysterySolvent/status/1266149395768250368

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

  251. @Lot
    George Floyd’s history.

    “ Floyd pleaded guilty to the robbery where another suspect posed as a worker for the local water department, wearing a blue uniform in an attempt to gain access to the woman’s home, according to the charging document.

    But when the woman opened the door, she realized he was not with the water department and attempted to close the door, leading to a struggle.

    At that time, a Ford Explorer pulled up to the home and five other males exited the car and went up to the front door.

    The report states the largest of the group, who the victim later identified as Floyd, ‘forced his way inside the residence, placed a pistol against the complainant’s abdomen, and forced her into the living room area of the residence.

    ‘This large suspect then proceeded to search the residence while another armed suspect guarded the complainant, who was struck in the head and sides by this second armed suspect with his pistol while she screamed for help.’

    Not finding any drugs or money at the house, the men took jewelry and the woman’s cell phone and fled in their car. A neighbor who witnessed the robbery took down the car’s license plate number.

    Later, police tracked down the car and found Floyd behind the wheel. He was later identified by the woman as the large suspect who placed a gun against her stomach and forced her into her living room, the document states.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8366533/George-Floyd-moved-Minneapolis-start-new-life-released-prison-Texas.html

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Ganderson, @Ian Smith, @Jus' Sayin'...

    I knew there was a backstory like this when I heard an acquaintance of Floyd being interviewed yesterday on NPR. He mentioned that Floyd was “getting his life together” (exact words). The woke among us immediately realized that Floyd, if not a career criminal, at least had an extensive history of serious crimes.

    Other code phrases the MSM use are “devoted father”, meaning “sired bastards from whose mothers he occasionaly scrounges welfare money” or “studying to be [prestigious occupation]” meaning “living off student loans while matriculating in grievance studies at the local junior college”.

  252. @Jonathan Mason
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    It was the equivalent of the Capitol Building in Washington DC being overrun and vandalized, and then there being no consequences whatever for nearly all of those involved.
     
    Could be, but I suspect that the modern policing way of dealing with riots is to let them run their course, monitor everything on cameras, preserve lives as much as possible, then track down the ringleaders later and arrest them at their homes at 5:00 a.m when no one is watching.

    That seemed to be how it went down initially with the London riots of 2011 from August 6th to August 11th after police shot and killed a local gangster who had just taken delivery of a handgun from an informer. The riots then spread to a dozen other cities.

    Then the police started to fight back. See graphic below.

    By August 15th 3,100 people had been arrested and charged with offenses ranging from receiving stolen goods to inciting riots on Facebook (sentenced to 4 years). By August 2012, 1292 rioters had been handed custodial sentences totaling 1,800 years at 16.8 months on an average.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots#Arrests_and_charges

    With the lock down, Covid-19, unemployment, and all, people have been waiting for some excuse to cut loose in a Summer of Discontent, and now there is one that everyone can take part in, whether as a political agitator or as a street gang member, casual looter, or even as a vigilante. Let the mischief begin.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023874/UK-riots-2011-16k-police-ready-use-plastic-bullets-lid-Londons-looters.html

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/10/article-2023874-0D5F467E00000578-318_964x1454.jpg

    Replies: @Neuday, @YetAnotherAnon, @Znzn, @Joe Stalin, @Corvinus

    The modern 21st Century English have become such pussies; in the old days they had Rolls-Royce Armored Cars with water-cooled Vickers to deal with their recalcitrant rabble.

  253. OT, here’s an appropriate song for this time of year: “Last Days of May” (Blue Öyster Cult), written by Donald “Buck Dharma” Roeser (not Jewish). It may have the longest sentence ever in a pop song: “It wasn’t until the car suddenly stopped in the middle of a cold and barren plain and the other guy turned and spilled three boys’ blood did they know a trap had been lain.”

  254. @Dave Pinsen
    Twitter just censored Trump's Minneapolis riot tweet.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266231100780744704?s=20

    Replies: @notsaying, @vhrm, @YetAnotherAnon, @Mike_from_SGV, @VinnyVette, @Jus' Sayin'...

    Earth to Trump: The looting has been going on for three days now.

  255. @t
    If he didn't do(99% chance) everyone who repeated this smear needs to be sued in bankruptcy.

    https://twitter.com/dyllyp/status/1266166402521522176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1266166402521522176&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unz.com%2Fanepigone%2Fdream-lovers-dont-dream-alone%2F

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Arne Pedersen, @George, @Alan Mercer, @ThreeCranes, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Buck Ransom, @BB753

    Did Pep Boys hire him?

  256. • Replies: @PennTothal
    @t

    Someone should ask tweeters like this:

    How many city blocks did the Michigan protesters burn to the ground?

    How many TV's did they loot from local businesses?

  257. @J.Ross
    @indocon

    This, there are plenty of masked white rioters and they are significant in the riot, the guy smashing the AutoZone windows was a scrawny masked white. Unfortunately Justice Department policy is to not interfere with leftist terrorism, let alone prosecute it, and this policy has only become more serious under Trump.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Jim Christian, @teo toon, @dcthrowback, @Truth

    LOL! It appears that the clown smashing the windows was an ACTIVE St. Paul Policeman.

    Antifa Left Winger… You betcha!

  258. @Anonymous
    @JSQ


    Discontent and anger in 2020 transcend racial borders. America is coming apart at the seams.
     
    George Floyd’s death appears to have been wrongful, but it was not deliberate and it is not indicative of a broader societal or institutional injustice.

    Therefore, the riots are not justifiable.

    Replies: @notsaying, @nokangaroos, @Chrisnonymous, @TheMassageIsTheMedium

    I recognize how this is not valid, but I hope you can see my point: I have never seen a home video of a police officer who responds to an arrestee’s complaint by getting off his neck and withstraining him in a different way. That anecdote represents a kind of institutional injustice, although not having anything to do with race.

    We are an overpoliced society–whether you are talking about FISA abuses, buffoonish TSA agents, or wrongful death in course of arrest, the problems stem from inappropriate assumptions in favor of state power over individuals.

  259. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Almost Missouri


    Abandoning police stations to rioters seems like a terrible decision.

     

    Exactly.

    Last year the HK protests, which initially were mostly peaceful and had widespread support, turned into riots in one fateful night, i.e. July 1st, when organized, antifa-style thugs broke into the HK Legislative Council building, and trashed the very chamber in which Legco deliberates.

    Hundreds of rioters were wandering around inside the building for hours, smashing the hell out of everything, right on live TV. The cops could have sealed off the doors and hauled in the whole lot, but they were called off.

    It was the equivalent of the Capitol Building in Washington DC being overrun and vandalized, and then there being no consequences whatever for nearly all of those involved.

    This pusillanimous signal opened the door to eight months of relentless rioting and destruction, which was cooled off only by the outbreak of COVID-19.

    The moral of the story: sometimes rioting doesn't just 'burn out' on its own. The MSP police are sending a terrible signal tonight; let's hope the bill to be paid for it isn't too steep.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jonathan Mason, @Anonymous, @Thea, @Chrisnonymous, @notsaying, @anon, @Stebbing Heuer

    Isn’t the Communist Chinese government to blame for what the protesters did?

    If they didn’t try to take people’s freedoms away the protesters wouldn’t have been out.

    You sound like you support the government. I can’t say I support the fires and the violence but I do support freedom for both Hong Kong and China. I am against the Communists.

  260. @Jonathan Mason
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    It was the equivalent of the Capitol Building in Washington DC being overrun and vandalized, and then there being no consequences whatever for nearly all of those involved.
     
    Could be, but I suspect that the modern policing way of dealing with riots is to let them run their course, monitor everything on cameras, preserve lives as much as possible, then track down the ringleaders later and arrest them at their homes at 5:00 a.m when no one is watching.

    That seemed to be how it went down initially with the London riots of 2011 from August 6th to August 11th after police shot and killed a local gangster who had just taken delivery of a handgun from an informer. The riots then spread to a dozen other cities.

    Then the police started to fight back. See graphic below.

    By August 15th 3,100 people had been arrested and charged with offenses ranging from receiving stolen goods to inciting riots on Facebook (sentenced to 4 years). By August 2012, 1292 rioters had been handed custodial sentences totaling 1,800 years at 16.8 months on an average.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots#Arrests_and_charges

    With the lock down, Covid-19, unemployment, and all, people have been waiting for some excuse to cut loose in a Summer of Discontent, and now there is one that everyone can take part in, whether as a political agitator or as a street gang member, casual looter, or even as a vigilante. Let the mischief begin.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023874/UK-riots-2011-16k-police-ready-use-plastic-bullets-lid-Londons-looters.html

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/10/article-2023874-0D5F467E00000578-318_964x1454.jpg

    Replies: @Neuday, @YetAnotherAnon, @Znzn, @Joe Stalin, @Corvinus

    “Could be, but I suspect that the modern policing way of dealing with riots is to let them run their course, monitor everything on cameras, preserve lives as much as possible, then track down the ringleaders later and arrest them at their homes at 5:00 a.m when no one is watching.”

    Exactly. Find out who were the instigators and put them in prison. Simple.

    In one of the videos I watched describing the events there, a Latino woman shook her head and said (I’m paraphrasing) “What sense does this make to burn your community down? Fight back at with your vote, not your fists”.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Corvinus


    In one of the videos I watched describing the events there, a Latino woman shook her head and said (I’m paraphrasing) “What sense does this make to burn your community down? Fight back at with your vote, not your fists”.
     
    Meaning they should vote the Minneapolis mayor out of office?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @obwandiyag
    @Corvinus

    Asshole. Yeah, vote. Good. Cretin.

  261. @J.Ross
    "Can't believe?" Really? Anyone can't believe that, in a city strangled by the diversity cult, where the mayor summarily threw (probably bad) cops under the bus without due process in a brainless bid at appeasement, cops would stand down?
    Apparently a local reporter (it's the fat bald guy in a fleece best) told the rioters that he personally supported their "protest" and thought they were "killing it." Great choice of words. No city has recovered from a black riot.
    ------
    There's similar events all over, not necessarily related. Apparently lefties (including the standard literal violent communists like BAMN) were planning to riot this weekend, to ritually acknowledge the warmer weather, but it's not yet clear if they "got lucky" or were important in getting people out.
    Here in Michigan, near Ann Arbor, a woman and her husband (last name "El") decided to videotape police arriving at a scene where gunshots had been reported.
    (Maybe this is unrelated but probably not: I've been hearing every night gunshots and fireworks, to include the really big nearly municipal grade fireworks, and have witnessed several pyrotechnics just barely clear rooftops because they were fired from two blocks away by amateurs who scattered when I and other annoyed residents approached. People are celebrating the warmer weather stupidly, the gunshots might not have been a [deliberate] shooting.)
    Police asked "El" that she am to leave the scene of a reported shooting for her safety. I don't need to tell you how she replied. One of the officers apparently punched her in the head (you know, like that Minneapolis old lady who was knocked out of a wheelchair and robbed was punched in the head). This head punching is supposedly the basis of a (told you so, complete failure and abdication of our law talkers) roadblock protest. Remember how lefties were steadily making illegal roadblocks their favorite mode of protest? Remember how the law talker reaction to that was to effectively legalize illegal roadblocks and attacking cars, setting the precedent that you can be sent to prison for the rest of your life if you do what had been at that time the standard and legal response to an illegal roadblock?
    Anyway, apparently this stuff is happening in Colorado as well (and wasn't there a Minneapolis-support protest in LA?), and where girls have balls:
    https://twitter.com/bellers03/status/1266174838374313992

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anonymous, @Stan d Mute, @ThreeCranes

    “the mayor summarily threw (probably bad) cops under the bus”

    When whites presumed guilt it’s labeled a lynching. When the “liberal” mayor does it it’s retributive Justice.

  262. @Alfa158
    @AnotherDad

    Some of us have been getting lectured by a White lady for years or even decades. It’s not that bad, all you have to do is pretend you’re listening and throw in an occasional “yes dear” to make them think you are listening.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Truth

    Some of us have been getting lectured by a White lady for years or even decades. It’s not that bad, all you have to do is pretend you’re listening and throw in an occasional “yes dear” to make them think you are listening.

    Agreed. My carpet installer was joking with me about that a couple hours back.

    But there are rules about which women this applies to.

  263. @Reg Cæsar
    @Tusk


    On the other hand people, including Steve, argue that BLM elected Trump.
     
    When homosexual wogs shot up that rave in Paris 4½ years ago, Ann Coulter said that was the day Donald Trump was elected. Turned out she was closer to the truth than anyone else.

    It's not inconceivable that Trump won Minnesota tonight. After all, Hillary did somewhat worse in 2016 than Reagan did in 1984, when he lost.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Grumpy

    It’s possible, but Minnesotans do very strange things. A Lutheran church in St. Paul laid out a table of refreshments for “protesters” in a neighborhood that was on fire last night.

  264. @t
    If he didn't do(99% chance) everyone who repeated this smear needs to be sued in bankruptcy.

    https://twitter.com/dyllyp/status/1266166402521522176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1266166402521522176&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unz.com%2Fanepigone%2Fdream-lovers-dont-dream-alone%2F

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Arne Pedersen, @George, @Alan Mercer, @ThreeCranes, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Buck Ransom, @BB753

    This seems to be a replay of something that was happening in Paris during the
    Gilets Jaunes protests. There were reports that the violence was being instigated by agents provocateurs affiliated with the police, aided and abetted by Antifa black blocs and urban yoots from the islamicised banlieus. But unlike Paris, the authorities in Minneapolis have not started blowing out the eyes and blowing off the hands of protesters; probably this is because there are no alienated and marginalized working-class whites on the scene at this point.

  265. In what universe is arson not “unruly”? In near every society that has ever had laws arsonists were considered total scum. William Faulkner lumped barn burners with rapists.

  266. What’s the physiology behind blacks dying from “choke holds” more than other groups?

  267. @Jonathan Mason
    One thing that does not get discussed is the role of CNN in instigating riots and acting as agent-provocateurs for political protests and demonstrations.

    I became aware of this when I was in Port-au-Prince, Haiti just after the 2010 earthquake disaster and saw a CNN camera crew set up on an upstairs balcony near the presidential palace and handing out placards, markers, and English language dictionaries so that protesters could hold up nice legible signs in English for the cameras. And of course people who wanted to protest would naturally congregate facing the sunset where the cameras could get a nice angle on them

    (In Port-au-Prince I also saw Anderson Cooper tooling around the city on the back of a brown pickup truck wearing a tight black tee shirt and looking for good places to pose in front of places where a lot of people had been killed.)

    It appears to me that CNN does this kind of thing all over the world from China to Egypt and back again, and then a special thrill for them is if one of their reporters is arrested or attacked by bystanders, which is a special badge of honor for the reporter. OMG, the freedom of the press is under attack!

    So, by having the cameras set up outside the police station, CNN is inviting demonstrators to attack the police station. Their camera crew probably deserved to be arrested. A pity they were not given a larger dose of their own medicine.

    Well, I guess it all makes for good TV and sells soap.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Dtbb, @VinnyVette, @VinnyVette, @PSR

  268. @Alfa158
    @AnotherDad

    Some of us have been getting lectured by a White lady for years or even decades. It’s not that bad, all you have to do is pretend you’re listening and throw in an occasional “yes dear” to make them think you are listening.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Truth

    HAHAHA!

    I went to another city for my best friend from childhood’s third wedding last year. A few days before the wedding we were driving around taking care of last minute details. His wife calls and asks him a bunch of ‘what-man-would-give-a-fuck’ questions about flowers at the wedding and all that over the speaker phone. He goes through that exact “yes-dear, yes-dear” routine, then she hit him with a “non-yes-or-no-answer” question. He answered, “yes” She asked him again. He answered with phony interest in his voice “yes honey I fully agree.” She said “that wasn’t a yes or no question…,” with audible anger in her voice.

    Nine months later he was divorced for the third time.

    • Replies: @allensheep
    @Truth

    To be fair, just answering "yes" if you get a question you don't care about is a dick move in pretty much any social situation, unless there's a way to play it off humorously. If he didn't want to talk about it he could have just said something like "I like any type of flower so I'll trust your judgement on what to get".

    , @wren
    @Truth

    Imagine the hectoring this gal's husband must get.

    https://youtu.be/t5q4cL9qZQI

    "Did you shut them up on Hong Kong yet?"

    "I told you to do something about Taiwan last week already!"

    I wonder if he is like this when he gets together with Trump?

    https://youtu.be/5LGEiIL1__s

    I also wonder, seriously, if she is helping push us all to WWIII

  269. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason
    One thing that does not get discussed is the role of CNN in instigating riots and acting as agent-provocateurs for political protests and demonstrations.

    I became aware of this when I was in Port-au-Prince, Haiti just after the 2010 earthquake disaster and saw a CNN camera crew set up on an upstairs balcony near the presidential palace and handing out placards, markers, and English language dictionaries so that protesters could hold up nice legible signs in English for the cameras. And of course people who wanted to protest would naturally congregate facing the sunset where the cameras could get a nice angle on them

    (In Port-au-Prince I also saw Anderson Cooper tooling around the city on the back of a brown pickup truck wearing a tight black tee shirt and looking for good places to pose in front of places where a lot of people had been killed.)

    It appears to me that CNN does this kind of thing all over the world from China to Egypt and back again, and then a special thrill for them is if one of their reporters is arrested or attacked by bystanders, which is a special badge of honor for the reporter. OMG, the freedom of the press is under attack!

    So, by having the cameras set up outside the police station, CNN is inviting demonstrators to attack the police station. Their camera crew probably deserved to be arrested. A pity they were not given a larger dose of their own medicine.

    Well, I guess it all makes for good TV and sells soap.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Dtbb, @VinnyVette, @VinnyVette, @PSR

    One thing that does not get discussed is the role of CNN in instigating riots and acting as agent-provocateurs for political protests and demonstrations.

    Who would discuss it, PBS? The role of [media] in causing events they can then report on goes back in time before CNN existed. More than one camera crew busted in the 60’s urging various protestors to do stuff, even asking “Can you back up and come down the street again”?

    Not to mention the Spanish-American war in the 1890’s, in which NYC yellow journalism played a prominent role. Depicted in a famous movie….”You provide the anecdotes…I’ll provide the war”.

  270. @Daniel Williams
    Where’s Trump and the National Guard? Or is he generating material for campaign videos in a few months?

    Replies: @indocon, @anon, @JimDandy, @AnotherDad, @Federalist

    Where are liberal complaints that privileged white brats are playing revolutionary larping games—destroying black neighborhoods and then scurrying back to their unscathed hipster habitats?

    Anyway, here’s this gem:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/driver-runs-down-protester-george-033001537.html

  271. Lol. This is great. Far-left Minneapolis gets burned to the ground, the commie-enforcing cops get vilified, and tranny-worshiping Target—which gave us the commie Dayton family—-gets its headquarter stores smashed to bits.

    Bonus: the commie (((mayor))) of Minneapolis comes out on the side of the rioters.

    It’s obvious the corporate media wants this to be a riot and wants to hang this on Trump. And are blaming the cops big time and making them seem corrupt and weak.

    If the cops around the nation really wanted to get back at the corporate liars, they’d have a nationwide agreement to stop doing any details involving any major corporate media giant, or even local ones. No protection, no security, and any incident involving their workers being harassed would immediately be put on the back burner.

    It won’t happen because they are who ores, but that’d be the way to strike back.

  272. The issue is the nature of the threat and how Whites react and how Blacks turn out.

    Mostly random snipers plus a few riots in Southern states leads swing White voters in the Rust Belt to see themselves shot dead since there is demand by the snipers. No elect this Dem snipers stop shooting.

    By contrast large scale Northern or Western riots means demands and massive Black turnout. Plus displays of dominance work on White Women who go with whoever swaggers most in the street in front of cameras.

    Whites don’t fight. We are not capable of it, and have not been for more than a hundred years. Abject surrender is always the case when confronted by non Whites particularly Africans.

    Look at Twitter. They are likely to ban Trump. While allowing Ice Cube to call for killing White people. Already White actresses are calling for race War and of course siding with Blacks.

    Suppose this rolls into suburbs and people are burned out or burned alive? Trump is removed by the FBI and they just install Stacey Abrams. With it being legal for Blacks to rob and kill Whites and illegal for Whites to defend themselves.

    The Purge movies awoke something deep in Blacks and the elites. Both want their mortal enemies destroyed and see this time now with most of the middle and working class broke and unemployed as a final solution.

    • Replies: @TorontoTraveller
    @Whiskey

    Whiskey - your comment profile includes a website, but the latest post on it was March 2016. Are you posting elsewhere?

    , @Anon
    @Whiskey

    Right now watching live coverage of standoff in San Jose between cops and “protesters”. They just cut in w/ a video clip of George Floyd’s fiancée reacting to news of the arrest of the cop who killed Floyd. A tragic matter for all, to be sure.

    Of note: The aggrieved woman is white.

  273. @Jonathan Mason
    One thing that does not get discussed is the role of CNN in instigating riots and acting as agent-provocateurs for political protests and demonstrations.

    I became aware of this when I was in Port-au-Prince, Haiti just after the 2010 earthquake disaster and saw a CNN camera crew set up on an upstairs balcony near the presidential palace and handing out placards, markers, and English language dictionaries so that protesters could hold up nice legible signs in English for the cameras. And of course people who wanted to protest would naturally congregate facing the sunset where the cameras could get a nice angle on them

    (In Port-au-Prince I also saw Anderson Cooper tooling around the city on the back of a brown pickup truck wearing a tight black tee shirt and looking for good places to pose in front of places where a lot of people had been killed.)

    It appears to me that CNN does this kind of thing all over the world from China to Egypt and back again, and then a special thrill for them is if one of their reporters is arrested or attacked by bystanders, which is a special badge of honor for the reporter. OMG, the freedom of the press is under attack!

    So, by having the cameras set up outside the police station, CNN is inviting demonstrators to attack the police station. Their camera crew probably deserved to be arrested. A pity they were not given a larger dose of their own medicine.

    Well, I guess it all makes for good TV and sells soap.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Dtbb, @VinnyVette, @VinnyVette, @PSR

    I call the media Kaopectate salesmen.

  274. @Lurker
    3rd or 13th precinct?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5UU2TxOcZs

    Replies: @Henry's Cat

    Yeah that immediately came to mind. Film history repeats itself, the first as drama, then as farce.

  275. @Anonymous
    @Whiskey

    This is a net positive for Republicans.

    More of this forces Biden to pick a black VP, which won't help much in a national election. It will likely be, in order of likelihood, (1) Kamala, (2) Val Demings or (3) Michelle Obama as a wild card.

    In normal times, Val Demings could be the law & order sensible black. But she is a total unknown and running a black cop right now will hurt turnout among blacks.

    Biden with a sensible nice white lady VP would be hard to beat, considering Trump's performance in the past few months. But with the emerging Karen meme, a white lady VP will kill black turnout as well. They don't want to be lectured by a white lady for 4 years.

    As far as I'm concerned, let more of these Blue cities go up in flames. It only helps.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Jay Fink, @Buck Ransom, @MEH 0910, @Daniel H

    More of this forces Biden to pick a black VP, which won’t help much in a national election. It will likely be, in order of likelihood, (1) Kamala, (2) Val Demings or (3) Michelle Obama as a wild card.

    Gropey Uncle Joe is not so weak-minded that he will settle for a Wonder Bread running mate like Kamala or Michelle. No siree, not in the year 2020, that would be total malarkey, knowimsayn?

    Joe’s Veep will be unveiled to great fanfare any day now, and it will be none other than Minnesota’s own Ilhan Omar. A truly inspired choice who will unite us from sea to shining sea.

    Now don’t you go fussin’ at me about her supposed birth in Somalia. Ain’t nobody got time for that.

  276. @Daniel Williams
    Where’s Trump and the National Guard? Or is he generating material for campaign videos in a few months?

    Replies: @indocon, @anon, @JimDandy, @AnotherDad, @Federalist

    Where’s Trump and the National Guard? Or is he generating material for campaign videos in a few months?

    The mayor and governor are supposed to be able to handle this. Trump’s already says he’s ready to act upon request.

    But Trump needs to make the political connection with explicit language. Something like:

    “The Democrats/progressives have once again unleashed their street fighting terrorist arm–these black shirted Antifa thugs.”

  277. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Almost Missouri


    Abandoning police stations to rioters seems like a terrible decision.

     

    Exactly.

    Last year the HK protests, which initially were mostly peaceful and had widespread support, turned into riots in one fateful night, i.e. July 1st, when organized, antifa-style thugs broke into the HK Legislative Council building, and trashed the very chamber in which Legco deliberates.

    Hundreds of rioters were wandering around inside the building for hours, smashing the hell out of everything, right on live TV. The cops could have sealed off the doors and hauled in the whole lot, but they were called off.

    It was the equivalent of the Capitol Building in Washington DC being overrun and vandalized, and then there being no consequences whatever for nearly all of those involved.

    This pusillanimous signal opened the door to eight months of relentless rioting and destruction, which was cooled off only by the outbreak of COVID-19.

    The moral of the story: sometimes rioting doesn't just 'burn out' on its own. The MSP police are sending a terrible signal tonight; let's hope the bill to be paid for it isn't too steep.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jonathan Mason, @Anonymous, @Thea, @Chrisnonymous, @notsaying, @anon, @Stebbing Heuer

    Chinese media is drawing a quick parallel between HK and MN riots:

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1189945.shtml

  278. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    @Jonathan Mason

    "Could be, but I suspect that the modern policing way of dealing with riots is to let them run their course, monitor everything on cameras, preserve lives as much as possible, then track down the ringleaders later and arrest them at their homes at 5:00 a.m when no one is watching."

    Exactly. Find out who were the instigators and put them in prison. Simple.

    In one of the videos I watched describing the events there, a Latino woman shook her head and said (I'm paraphrasing) "What sense does this make to burn your community down? Fight back at with your vote, not your fists".

    Replies: @Anonymous, @obwandiyag

    In one of the videos I watched describing the events there, a Latino woman shook her head and said (I’m paraphrasing) “What sense does this make to burn your community down? Fight back at with your vote, not your fists”.

    Meaning they should vote the Minneapolis mayor out of office?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Anonymous

    "Meaning they should vote the Minneapolis mayor out of office?"

    Sure. If that's what the citizens of that fine city seek. Or they could desire to re-elect Trump or put in Biden in the 2020 Election. Whatever floats their boat. Are you ready to exercise your liberty of the franchise?

  279. @Anonymous
    @Whiskey

    This is a net positive for Republicans.

    More of this forces Biden to pick a black VP, which won't help much in a national election. It will likely be, in order of likelihood, (1) Kamala, (2) Val Demings or (3) Michelle Obama as a wild card.

    In normal times, Val Demings could be the law & order sensible black. But she is a total unknown and running a black cop right now will hurt turnout among blacks.

    Biden with a sensible nice white lady VP would be hard to beat, considering Trump's performance in the past few months. But with the emerging Karen meme, a white lady VP will kill black turnout as well. They don't want to be lectured by a white lady for 4 years.

    As far as I'm concerned, let more of these Blue cities go up in flames. It only helps.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Jay Fink, @Buck Ransom, @MEH 0910, @Daniel H

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @MEH 0910

    Eeewww . . . that's gonna leave a mark. I suppose she's out of the VP stakes.

    It's a shame she wasn't the nominee before this broke. Although I suppose if she were it would get memoryholed and never reported except by Alex Jones.

    , @res
    @MEH 0910

    It is interesting how focused they seem to be on keeping Klobuchar out of the VP slot. Is anyone else getting near the number of negative articles she is? Why?

    Replies: @JimB, @Arclight, @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

    , @AnotherDad
    @MEH 0910



    When she was previously in charge of prosecution for Minneapolis, Klobuchar declined to prosecute multiple police officers cited for excessive force, including the officer who kneeled on Floyd's neck as he protested. https://t.co/vSdnx6O1Ib
     
    Thanks MEH. This is great news. Klobuchar is the reasonable safe choice for Biden--stuck with his stupid promise to run with a gyno-American. This direct link to the neck-kneeling cop could be enough to dissuade him.

    Stacy Abrams please! Heighten the contradiction! Pull off the mask! Wake people up!
    , @JimB
    @MEH 0910

    Everybody is turning on Derek Cauvin, but his record, apart from this arrest, looks okay, although it includes a couple of righteous shootings. All of the sudden people are basically pointing and sputtering at his past and saying, hey this guy should have been stopped. When off duty, he served as security for a Minneapolis nightclub for 17 years, and now the owner is saying he had a hair trigger temper and was scary. So why did this moron keep him on the payroll of 17 years? Wouldn't she be afraid of a law suit from one of her patrons? Or were the patrons even scarier than he was? Its pretty much a railroad job. Justice for one guy doesn't matter when the real goal is to defeat Trump in November. The Arbery thing was starting to peter out in Georgia so, wow, we have the video tape of one bad arrest. Let's burn down every city in America.

  280. GLT says:

    Off topic: importing corona cases to prevent crops rotting in the fields, in spite of record unemployment
    https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2020/05/coronavirus-outbreak-hits-townsend-farms-in-fairview.html

    “People employed in agriculture are essential workers. They are also a vital part of our community,” Patrick Allen, Oregon Health Authority
    Apparently they are recently arrived from Mexico. Another article implied they are on guest worker visas.

  281. I think it would be great if a few large and mid sized American cities had a black Mayor, black President of the City Council, black DA, black Chief of Police, black Fire Chief, black Superintendent of Schools, black School Board and then we could see how well they govern their city and be a shining example to the rest of the country. Oh, wait. I think Chicago,Detroit, Cleveland, Baltimore and Buffalo, to name a few, have all or most of those positions held by blacks and the results are not pretty.

    • Thanks: Dieter Kief
    • Replies: @Truth
    @Buffalo Joe

    Stop it.

    I heard you have an autographed picture of Byron Brown in your living room.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  282. @22pp22
    I know white Americans are proud of what their ancestors built. If I were a white American, I would be proud, too. I hate to say this, but your country is no longer viable. You hate each other too much. America will have to split into smaller units that are cohesive and put the interests of their own citizens first.

    This is not obvious to Americans who are emotionally bound up with their homeland. To an outsider, it is increasingly undeniable.

    Pity that California will have to go. It's a beautiful place.

    The liberal whites who live there are used to getting away with being masochists because they live in a white-majority country. When they are a hated minority in California, their sanctimony will come back to bite them.

    It couldn't happen to nicer people. Build a wall to keep them out of what is left of your country.

    Replies: @snorlax, @anon, @XYZ (no Mr.), @Regret, @Anonymous, @epochehusserl, @anonn, @Charon

    But a large percentage of white people don’t agree with that because it would be racist so what can the average white person do?

  283. Come to think of it, rioting was not part of The Imperial College℠ ‘Flatten the Curve®’ model. Maybe they should update the model to take into account the behavior of non-Etonians.

  284. Anon[404] • Disclaimer says:

    Every time blacks yammer on about how they built America and deserve reparations for it, point out that they keep burning it down. Tally up all the arson, looting, riot, and vandalism damage that blacks have done over the years and charge them for it.

    Has anyone ever worked out how much whites have paid to blacks for welfare, how much whites have had to pay for black crime, and how much whites have ever had to pay to repair black riot damage? The bill for the 60s riots was huge. Someone needs to add all this up to make a point. The sum will be a lot higher than what blacks have ever added to this country’s economy.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anon


    Has anyone ever worked out how much whites have paid to blacks for welfare, how much whites have had to pay for black crime, and how much whites have ever had to pay to repair black riot damage?
     
    According to Christopher Caldwell, "The Age of Entitlement", the total cost of the Civil Rights Act and associated actions (such as the Bake decision) comes to something over the total Federal debt. The effect of the Civil Rights act was to give Civil Rights programs priority call on all US funds, commercial and governmental. The United States has spent all it has and quite a bit of its future on an attempt to implement Civil Rights. Caldwell documents this pretty well.

    So, say about 20*10^12 to maybe 40 trillion dollars, with opportunity costs not counted.
    , @Truth
    @Anon


    Has anyone ever worked out how much whites have paid to blacks for welfare, how much whites have had to pay for black crime, and how much whites have ever had to pay to repair black riot damage?
     
    LOL, only every 4th thread around here...
  285. Fucking cops murder more white people than black people and you utterly brain-dead lying assholes defend them.

    Hurray for the police station burners. May they burn them all down.

    Try calling the cops to your home because you were robbed. They’ll break in and shoot you.

    And most of them are military. Military, not to put too fine a point on it, are scum.

  286. @Jonathan Mason
    One thing that does not get discussed is the role of CNN in instigating riots and acting as agent-provocateurs for political protests and demonstrations.

    I became aware of this when I was in Port-au-Prince, Haiti just after the 2010 earthquake disaster and saw a CNN camera crew set up on an upstairs balcony near the presidential palace and handing out placards, markers, and English language dictionaries so that protesters could hold up nice legible signs in English for the cameras. And of course people who wanted to protest would naturally congregate facing the sunset where the cameras could get a nice angle on them

    (In Port-au-Prince I also saw Anderson Cooper tooling around the city on the back of a brown pickup truck wearing a tight black tee shirt and looking for good places to pose in front of places where a lot of people had been killed.)

    It appears to me that CNN does this kind of thing all over the world from China to Egypt and back again, and then a special thrill for them is if one of their reporters is arrested or attacked by bystanders, which is a special badge of honor for the reporter. OMG, the freedom of the press is under attack!

    So, by having the cameras set up outside the police station, CNN is inviting demonstrators to attack the police station. Their camera crew probably deserved to be arrested. A pity they were not given a larger dose of their own medicine.

    Well, I guess it all makes for good TV and sells soap.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Dtbb, @VinnyVette, @VinnyVette, @PSR

  287. Pierre Trudeau on Insurrection

    “What’s your worry? …Just watch me.”

  288. It’s instructive how mayors and governors can micromanage every aspect of public life for the law-abiding, but then stand down so meekly in the face of a mob.

    • Agree: res
  289. @MEH 0910
    @Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/TheWeek/status/1266100484215115787

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @res, @AnotherDad, @JimB

    Eeewww . . . that’s gonna leave a mark. I suppose she’s out of the VP stakes.

    It’s a shame she wasn’t the nominee before this broke. Although I suppose if she were it would get memoryholed and never reported except by Alex Jones.

  290. @Corvinus
    @Jonathan Mason

    "Could be, but I suspect that the modern policing way of dealing with riots is to let them run their course, monitor everything on cameras, preserve lives as much as possible, then track down the ringleaders later and arrest them at their homes at 5:00 a.m when no one is watching."

    Exactly. Find out who were the instigators and put them in prison. Simple.

    In one of the videos I watched describing the events there, a Latino woman shook her head and said (I'm paraphrasing) "What sense does this make to burn your community down? Fight back at with your vote, not your fists".

    Replies: @Anonymous, @obwandiyag

    Asshole. Yeah, vote. Good. Cretin.

  291. @Clifford Brown
    So the cop and George Floyd were both bouncers at El Nuevo Rodeo, a trashy Mexican nightclub in Minneapolis?

    I don't know, man.

    https://youtu.be/35hGgkJ7y8g

    Replies: @Alden, @George, @jack daniels

    ‘I don’t know, man.’

    George Floyd and officer involved in his death worked security at same club, owner says

    The former owner of a Minneapolis club says the two worked as security up to the end of last year.

    https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/500116-george-floyd-and-officer-involved-in-his-death-worked

    The cop kind of looked zonked out to me. Maybe he was zonked out.

  292. @Whiskey
    Its over. Its like the Rodney King Riots in 1992. That got Bill Clinton elected. Pure and simple.

    Black people riot, burn stuff down, beat down Whites. And Whites surrender and do what they are told.

    That video of police running away is a metaphor for Trump and White America. Heck there may not be a Republican left.

    Its like 9/11 -- we got unlimited Muslim immigration, mosques all over the place, the Empire State Building lit up for Eid (what the hell is that Holiday? Its not a real holiday like Christmas and Easter and Halloween).

    Replies: @Tusk, @Anonymous, @JMcG, @Anonymous, @JohnPlywood, @e, @AnotherDad, @ben tillman

    Whiskey, some dude has hacked your handle.

    A few paragraphs, a 100 words and no “white girls” or “white women” hate, hate hating beta white men.

    Bring back the real Whiskey!

    • Agree: TomSchmidt
    • LOL: Coemgen, Rob McX
    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @AnotherDad

    Some White actress I've never heard of us on Twitter urging Race war and siding with Blacks. Calling for eliminating White men. So there's that.

    Replies: @Rouetheday

  293. @Jonathan Mason
    One thing that does not get discussed is the role of CNN in instigating riots and acting as agent-provocateurs for political protests and demonstrations.

    I became aware of this when I was in Port-au-Prince, Haiti just after the 2010 earthquake disaster and saw a CNN camera crew set up on an upstairs balcony near the presidential palace and handing out placards, markers, and English language dictionaries so that protesters could hold up nice legible signs in English for the cameras. And of course people who wanted to protest would naturally congregate facing the sunset where the cameras could get a nice angle on them

    (In Port-au-Prince I also saw Anderson Cooper tooling around the city on the back of a brown pickup truck wearing a tight black tee shirt and looking for good places to pose in front of places where a lot of people had been killed.)

    It appears to me that CNN does this kind of thing all over the world from China to Egypt and back again, and then a special thrill for them is if one of their reporters is arrested or attacked by bystanders, which is a special badge of honor for the reporter. OMG, the freedom of the press is under attack!

    So, by having the cameras set up outside the police station, CNN is inviting demonstrators to attack the police station. Their camera crew probably deserved to be arrested. A pity they were not given a larger dose of their own medicine.

    Well, I guess it all makes for good TV and sells soap.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Dtbb, @VinnyVette, @VinnyVette, @PSR

  294. @MEH 0910
    @Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/TheWeek/status/1266100484215115787

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @res, @AnotherDad, @JimB

    It is interesting how focused they seem to be on keeping Klobuchar out of the VP slot. Is anyone else getting near the number of negative articles she is? Why?

    • Replies: @JimB
    @res


    It is interesting how focused they seem to be on keeping Klobuchar out of the VP slot. Is anyone else getting near the number of negative articles she is? Why?
     
    She's a busty MILF with a Karen haircut? Frankly, I'm betting that Biden will choose her because she turns him on. He doesn't want to spend four years in the White House (and perhaps his last four years on earth) having to look at Stacy Abrams or Elizabeth Warren. It would be better to lose the election.

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    , @Arclight
    @res

    The Stacy Abrams for VP shadow campaign is in high gear, that's why.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @res


    It is interesting how focused they seem to be on keeping Klobuchar out of the VP slot. Is anyone else getting near the number of negative articles she is? Why?

     

    Her father is still alive, more popular, less objectionable, and at 92, makes Biden look young. Though he's probably way more coherent.
    , @Alden
    @res

    They’re saving the slot for someone they decided on months ago is why the liberals are so anti Klobuchar.

  295. PSR says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    @Anonymous

    Who do you think is worse off? America or Western Europe?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Anonymous, @PSR

    I’m not the original poster but I’d say Western Europe, because they arre overrun by Mohammedans who expect to inherit those societies someday by their sheer numbers and when they do, they’ll turn those countries into backward, hot messes. On the contrary we have 15-20 million uneducated, but largely passive, illegal immigrants and about 20 million lower-class blacks who are unpedictable at times, but in the long run, bribable.

  296. @Anonymous
    @JSQ


    Discontent and anger in 2020 transcend racial borders. America is coming apart at the seams.
     
    George Floyd’s death appears to have been wrongful, but it was not deliberate and it is not indicative of a broader societal or institutional injustice.

    Therefore, the riots are not justifiable.

    Replies: @notsaying, @nokangaroos, @Chrisnonymous, @TheMassageIsTheMedium

    Anyone with half a brain should see that it’s a major issue that a policeman can kneel on someone’s neck for 10 minutes while the person begs for their life and ends up killing him. Regardless of your opinion on politics. That means the power to murder. Whoever wields that power can inflict great harm on society. That is not something that should be allowed to be unaccountable.

  297. @e
    @Whiskey

    Are you crazy?

    There isn't anyone in the country that doesn't know MN is lib territory and this is how lib territory ends. In flames.

    Being nice to thugs makes them more thuggish.

    This isn't about whites or blacks--it's about PROGRESSIVES and what they spawn.

    Replies: @Whiskey

    Keith Ellison X is predicting massive Black turnout. The 1992 riots gave us 8 years of Clintons

  298. @MEH 0910
    @Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/TheWeek/status/1266100484215115787

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @res, @AnotherDad, @JimB

    When she was previously in charge of prosecution for Minneapolis, Klobuchar declined to prosecute multiple police officers cited for excessive force, including the officer who kneeled on Floyd’s neck as he protested. https://t.co/vSdnx6O1Ib

    Thanks MEH. This is great news. Klobuchar is the reasonable safe choice for Biden–stuck with his stupid promise to run with a gyno-American. This direct link to the neck-kneeling cop could be enough to dissuade him.

    Stacy Abrams please! Heighten the contradiction! Pull off the mask! Wake people up!

  299. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...
    @notsaying

    Deliberate implies that this cop intended that his actions kill the Negro upon whose neck he was kneeling. I very much doubt this and it would be impossible to prove in a criminal trial. However, one could argue that this cop's actions were reckless to the point of clearly endangering the Negro's life. This seems obvious to me and I'm sure it would be to most juries. The bottom line is that this one cop deserves to be fired from the police force, he deserves to do prison time for some form of homicide (not murder), and he'll probably face civil liabilities that will make the rest of his life an endless misery.

    In other words, he'll force punishment commensurate with that received by this other Minneapolis cop https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/04/30/minnesota-police-officer-convicted-murder-fatal-shooting-australian-woman-who-called/ but for a less egregious violation of police procedures and a homicide far less close to an open execution. I wonder why Minneapolis's White population didn't riot back then, maybe burn down a few KFC's, halal butcher shops, and hair straightening joints?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    The bottom line is that this one cop deserves to be fired from the police force, he deserves to do prison time for some form of homicide (not murder), and he’ll probably face civil liabilities that will make the rest of his life an endless misery.

    It depends on what police practices are when a large, powerful man is resisting arrest. It depends on how much pressure the officer was actually applying to Chauvin’s neck and back.It depends on how aware he was of where the pressure was applied. It depends on whether he was aware he was harming Chauvin. (Arrestees commonly and falsely claim that the “can’t breathe.”) It depends on what his intention was. It depends on the cause of death.

    By some appearances, the officer was not aware of what was going on with Floyd. Does he deserve to have his life destroyed for a mistake?

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Anonymous


    . Does he deserve to have his life destroyed for a mistake?
     
    LOL, why the hell not, the other guy did!

    Replies: @Sam Haysom, @Anonymous

    , @TheMassageIsTheMedium
    @Anonymous

    That's a pretty damn big mistake. He was crushing his neck while the guy said he couldn't breathe and begged for his life. At the very least this is manslaughter. Like I said before, regardless of your political orientation no one in their right mind should want cops to have the legal ability to kill with impunity especially in a situation like this when his life is very very obviously not in danger. Never give the power of life and death to the state.

    Sometimes anger is all people have, like when gays rioted after Harvey Milk's murderer was given a manslaughter charge for shooting someone point blank with intent to kill.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  300. A few thoughts:

    Re: rioters taking over a police station. This was ordered by higher ups. One big problem is that if police start shooting rioters first, before getting shot at themselves, or seriously taken down and captured, then they will be seen as starting a one way massacre. Shooting unarmed civilians, no matter what they do, is nearly always seen as a bad idea. Politically, morally.

    You can retreat or use water cannons, etc. No idea why they abandoned their station.

    Re: the death. No one seems to be waiting for an autopsy. It seems highly likely that the arrested subject probably had some major health problem, Asthma, obesity, COPD, heart blockage. This doesn’t disappear the cops over reaction during the arrest, using knee on neck, ignoring worsening situation. But for all we know this guy was high/drunk or at least seriously in poor health. Of course that’s why cops need to behave less macho.

    As to result, someone may want to investigate, post election, how these Minn. precincts voted (Dem versus Rep) in the fall elections. Especially versus 2016. Or how riot impacted areas are affected. Do they become more “progressive” and crime tolerant, or less? The people who actually live/work there and lose property to looters, arson, etc. Does antifa actually help Dems anywhere?

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Muggles

    The store owner who called the police told the dispatcher that Floyd was drunk or something, can’t control himself

    , @Anonymous
    @Muggles


    This doesn’t disappear the cops over reaction during the arrest, using knee on neck, ignoring worsening situation.
     
    Did they “ignore it” or were they just unaware of the gravity of the situation? As you wrote earlier, Floyd may have had a preexisting condition.

    Replies: @Muggles

  301. @AnotherDad
    @Whiskey

    Whiskey, some dude has hacked your handle.

    A few paragraphs, a 100 words and no "white girls" or "white women" hate, hate hating beta white men.

    Bring back the real Whiskey!

    Replies: @Whiskey

    Some White actress I’ve never heard of us on Twitter urging Race war and siding with Blacks. Calling for eliminating White men. So there’s that.

    • Replies: @Rouetheday
    @Whiskey

    Yeah, one of them is France Fisher. I'm sure Clint Eastwood is now thinking to himself, "I can't believe I stuck my dick in that much crazy".

  302. PSR says:
    @Jonathan Mason
    One thing that does not get discussed is the role of CNN in instigating riots and acting as agent-provocateurs for political protests and demonstrations.

    I became aware of this when I was in Port-au-Prince, Haiti just after the 2010 earthquake disaster and saw a CNN camera crew set up on an upstairs balcony near the presidential palace and handing out placards, markers, and English language dictionaries so that protesters could hold up nice legible signs in English for the cameras. And of course people who wanted to protest would naturally congregate facing the sunset where the cameras could get a nice angle on them

    (In Port-au-Prince I also saw Anderson Cooper tooling around the city on the back of a brown pickup truck wearing a tight black tee shirt and looking for good places to pose in front of places where a lot of people had been killed.)

    It appears to me that CNN does this kind of thing all over the world from China to Egypt and back again, and then a special thrill for them is if one of their reporters is arrested or attacked by bystanders, which is a special badge of honor for the reporter. OMG, the freedom of the press is under attack!

    So, by having the cameras set up outside the police station, CNN is inviting demonstrators to attack the police station. Their camera crew probably deserved to be arrested. A pity they were not given a larger dose of their own medicine.

    Well, I guess it all makes for good TV and sells soap.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Dtbb, @VinnyVette, @VinnyVette, @PSR

    There is a well-known picture of Anderson Cooper standing waist deep in water covering some natural disaster while his camera – about eight feet away – is in ankle deep water. I think there was another video showing a CNN producer moving the only 8 or 10 ‘protesters’ at some even closer together behind the reporter to make it look like a real mob. So, yeah, this is the norm, at CNN at least.

  303. It would be best to seal off the ghettos and let blacks police themselves as they see fit. They’d end up being far more brutal than any white police, because blacks aren’t easy to control by peaceful means, to put it mildly. What happened to George Floyd is far milder than the treatment he’d get at the hands of his co-ethnics if they were given free rein. Having whites do the dirty work gives blacks a scapegoat and a pretext for rioting and looting.

  304. JimB says:
    @res
    @MEH 0910

    It is interesting how focused they seem to be on keeping Klobuchar out of the VP slot. Is anyone else getting near the number of negative articles she is? Why?

    Replies: @JimB, @Arclight, @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

    It is interesting how focused they seem to be on keeping Klobuchar out of the VP slot. Is anyone else getting near the number of negative articles she is? Why?

    She’s a busty MILF with a Karen haircut? Frankly, I’m betting that Biden will choose her because she turns him on. He doesn’t want to spend four years in the White House (and perhaps his last four years on earth) having to look at Stacy Abrams or Elizabeth Warren. It would be better to lose the election.

    • Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @JimB

    "He doesn’t want to spend four years in the White House (and perhaps his last four years on earth) having to look at Stacy Abrams or Elizabeth Warren."

    Nah, creepy sleepy uncle joe likes 'em young and prepubescent, viz a dozen youtube vidjas. Kloblowchar is waaay too adult for creepy joe.

  305. Anon[404] • Disclaimer says:

    What the state needs to start doing is fining and seizing the trust funds of the all the Trustifarians who are involved in this. Make them pay millions for all the buildings they helped loot, set fire to, etc. Left wing Trustifarians are literally doing millions of dollars worth of damage here. If they’re caught inciting riots, that is a crime, and they need to be arrested and fined heavily. Get them for RICO and use asset forfeiture against them. Beggar them so hard they’ll be forced to work at McDonalds to make a living. We have not gone after these people hard enough for being ringleaders in charge of causing crimes.

    If you burn down a building that costs millions, and you’re worth millions, it’s only fair and just that you be forced to pay for it. The insurance company should not be on the hook for this.

  306. Joe Biden will be President, and this stuff will be normal moving forward.

    so time to start discussing how to proceed, communicate, and organize when Democrats begin eliminating sites like this from the internet. one day in the first or second year of Biden’s term, this site will just disappear from the internet overnight, with no way for like minded people to get back in contact.

    Steve doesn’t care, because he’s old, and just about retired, but the rest of us better care, better do something. Steve will just do his usual snark blogging about the Obama crime increase, which will become the Biden crime increase, and that will be that for his ‘contribution’.

    like Charles Murray, Sailer has become a rather disappointing figure, who prefers to do a play by play as the Titanic sinks, rather than actually doing anything.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @prime noticer


    like Charles Murray, Sailer has become a rather disappointing figure, who prefers to do a play by play as the Titanic sinks, rather than actually doing anything.
     
    Everyone must do their part. Steve is doing his.
    , @tyrone
    @prime noticer

    And also I know for a fact that Steve DOSEN'T own a white horse!……the nerve

    , @anon
    @prime noticer

    It would be stupid for the left to completely censor far-right thought online. If anything, social media has restrained the far right, since it allows 99.999% of them to LARP online, with the only ones meeting in-person being people attending intellectual conferences or low IQ losers who broadcast their intentions on their t-shirts. Not exactly threats to the establishment.

    Remove all far right talk online, 90% of conservatives will go along with it, including aforementioned LARPER's, intellectuals and forensic club types. The other 10% will begin to quietly meet in-person and learn how to organize. It's this later group that leads to action. And for good or bad, some societal persecution is needed to filter out the true believers.

    This is probably overdue anyway, since the intellectual framework for the nationalist right has been spelled out fairly clearly at this point, with everything else being leisure-time keystrokes. Also, the far right probably needs to stop voluntarily compiling evidence dossiers for the cops, so a social media blackout is probably for the best, even if the LARPERs, intellectuals and clout-chasers complain about being censored.

  307. @Truth
    @Alfa158

    HAHAHA!

    I went to another city for my best friend from childhood's third wedding last year. A few days before the wedding we were driving around taking care of last minute details. His wife calls and asks him a bunch of 'what-man-would-give-a-fuck' questions about flowers at the wedding and all that over the speaker phone. He goes through that exact "yes-dear, yes-dear" routine, then she hit him with a "non-yes-or-no-answer" question. He answered, "yes" She asked him again. He answered with phony interest in his voice "yes honey I fully agree." She said "that wasn't a yes or no question...," with audible anger in her voice.

    Nine months later he was divorced for the third time.

    Replies: @allensheep, @wren

    To be fair, just answering “yes” if you get a question you don’t care about is a dick move in pretty much any social situation, unless there’s a way to play it off humorously. If he didn’t want to talk about it he could have just said something like “I like any type of flower so I’ll trust your judgement on what to get”.

  308. “Law and Order was broken in the police murder of George Floyd…so let’s break more laws and create more chaos!”

    Blacks are not wired to live in civil society.

  309. @indocon
    @Whiskey

    Whiskey I have read your comments with deep interest or past few years, but I think you were going off the deck here my friend. Who ruled Detroit, Newark, Chicago, Watts when they all had their riots.....democrats. Minneapolis is one of the most democratic metropolitan areas when you include the suburbs, a par with Bay Area. The attorney general is a follower of Louis Farrakhan.

    Replies: @e

    It would never surprise me if Keith Ellison and his Dem friends called in Antifa.

  310. Anonymous[635] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Every time blacks yammer on about how they built America and deserve reparations for it, point out that they keep burning it down. Tally up all the arson, looting, riot, and vandalism damage that blacks have done over the years and charge them for it.

    Has anyone ever worked out how much whites have paid to blacks for welfare, how much whites have had to pay for black crime, and how much whites have ever had to pay to repair black riot damage? The bill for the 60s riots was huge. Someone needs to add all this up to make a point. The sum will be a lot higher than what blacks have ever added to this country's economy.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Truth

    Has anyone ever worked out how much whites have paid to blacks for welfare, how much whites have had to pay for black crime, and how much whites have ever had to pay to repair black riot damage?

    According to Christopher Caldwell, “The Age of Entitlement”, the total cost of the Civil Rights Act and associated actions (such as the Bake decision) comes to something over the total Federal debt. The effect of the Civil Rights act was to give Civil Rights programs priority call on all US funds, commercial and governmental. The United States has spent all it has and quite a bit of its future on an attempt to implement Civil Rights. Caldwell documents this pretty well.

    So, say about 20*10^12 to maybe 40 trillion dollars, with opportunity costs not counted.

  311. @Anonymous
    @Whiskey

    This is a net positive for Republicans.

    More of this forces Biden to pick a black VP, which won't help much in a national election. It will likely be, in order of likelihood, (1) Kamala, (2) Val Demings or (3) Michelle Obama as a wild card.

    In normal times, Val Demings could be the law & order sensible black. But she is a total unknown and running a black cop right now will hurt turnout among blacks.

    Biden with a sensible nice white lady VP would be hard to beat, considering Trump's performance in the past few months. But with the emerging Karen meme, a white lady VP will kill black turnout as well. They don't want to be lectured by a white lady for 4 years.

    As far as I'm concerned, let more of these Blue cities go up in flames. It only helps.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Jay Fink, @Buck Ransom, @MEH 0910, @Daniel H

    This is a net positive for Republicans.

    Why do you give a sh*t about the fate of the Republicans? They are the GREATER problem. If a combination of riots/covid-19/demographics wipes the Republicans out of American politics this November it will be a damn good thing. We can start forming a coalition that will actually do something to challenge leftism.

  312. Coag says:
    @jtgw
    Certainly clear that state losing its legitimacy across the country. Murray Rothbard would be pleased.

    Replies: @Thea, @Coag

    Certainly clear that state losing its legitimacy across the country. Murray Rothbard would be pleased.

    No. The rioters are not anarchists. They are Leninists. For them, the state is an essential who/whom weapon. They don’t want to abolish the state. They want a South African-style state to liquidate their race enemies.

    How many of the rioters collected food stamps, subsidized housing, covid benefits, and other paychecks signed by the state? They would be nothing without the state. Little Murray Rothbards, they ain’t.

    • Replies: @Franz
    @Coag


    How many of the rioters collected food stamps, subsidized housing, covid benefits, and other paychecks signed by the state? They would be nothing without the state.
     
    And as some of us already guessed, our old pals: Outside agitators.

    "I will just say it was clear to me and hearing from local community leaders that many of the people involved were not known Minneapolitans," Arradondo said.

    "There were certainly those not recognized as being from the city."

     

    https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/police-chief-much-of-riot-damage-caused-by-those-from-outside-minneapolis
  313. JimB says:
    @MEH 0910
    @Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/TheWeek/status/1266100484215115787

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @res, @AnotherDad, @JimB

    Everybody is turning on Derek Cauvin, but his record, apart from this arrest, looks okay, although it includes a couple of righteous shootings. All of the sudden people are basically pointing and sputtering at his past and saying, hey this guy should have been stopped. When off duty, he served as security for a Minneapolis nightclub for 17 years, and now the owner is saying he had a hair trigger temper and was scary. So why did this moron keep him on the payroll of 17 years? Wouldn’t she be afraid of a law suit from one of her patrons? Or were the patrons even scarier than he was? Its pretty much a railroad job. Justice for one guy doesn’t matter when the real goal is to defeat Trump in November. The Arbery thing was starting to peter out in Georgia so, wow, we have the video tape of one bad arrest. Let’s burn down every city in America.

  314. @Barnard
    @Ed

    Nearly everyone who cares about law and order already votes Republican. An increasing number of them do so with extreme reluctance because of the worthless nature of the Republican party. Based on what people are posting online, the riots aren't changing the minds of very many blank slaters who think we can all live in peace and harmony.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Barnard, truth is everyone cares about law and order, but some people think it is more woke to pretend they don’t, until crime or violence visits them or their loved ones.

  315. @Reg Cæsar
    @Hypnotoad666


    Wow. Frey makes Justin Trudeau seem like a tough guy.
     
    Never mind his dad:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Crisis


    Mike Myers notes the irony of "liberal" Pierre, rather than Richard Nixon, resorting to martial law. But he was praised for doing so.

    Replies: @Truth

    Wow. Frey makes Justin Trudeau seem like a tough guy.

    Never mind his dad:

    Brah, you got that right…

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Truth

    Oh wow Justin Trudeau sure looks like his father.

    Replies: @Truth

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Truth

    And you were proved right about Taylor Swift. She truly is a ditz:


    “After stoking the fires of white supremacy and racism your entire presidency, you have the nerve to feign moral superiority before threatening violence? ‘When the looting starts the shooting starts’??? We will vote you out in November. @realdonaldtrump.”

    , @Cortes
    @Truth

    Justin looks eerily like a nun I know.

    Replies: @Truth

  316. Now that MPD officer Derek Chauvin has been arrested for murder and manslaughter he’ll been missing something a whole lot more than freedom.

    His hot 5’1”, 105 lb. Hmong wife!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8367283/Wife-white-cop-kneeled-George-Floyds-neck-wrote-bad-check.html

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Anon

    I think it was for 42 dollars. Anyone is allowed to bounce one small check amount in their life due to not remembering what they have in their bank account. It's not a crime and your bank pay it and zaps you with a fee for it. Plenty of middle-class people have done it at least once.

    Floyd was trying to pass counterfeit money, which is a very different deal. I've never seen counterfeits in circulation. When you have it in your hand, it's usually because you're the one who counterfeited it.

    Floyd also had a serious criminal record before this time, including armed robbery.

  317. Anonymous[635] • Disclaimer says:
    @botazefa
    @indocon


    Trump needs to stay back and let this burn for a few more days, then send in the full deployment of US Army, arrest all these white punks and send them to federal jails in the south
     
    The US Army is not the continental Presidential police force, is it?

    I don't think it is legal to deploy the Army the way you are describing. National Guard yes, Army no. Feds can invade States.

    Am I wrong, indocon?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @huisache, @Stunned Billionaire

    I don’t think it is legal to deploy the Army the way you are describing. National Guard yes, Army no. Feds can invade States.

    Am I wrong, indocon?

    1957, Little Rock, Eisenhower, 101st Airborne deployed to escort 9 high school students to class over objections of state residents an State governor.

  318. @botazefa
    @indocon


    Trump needs to stay back and let this burn for a few more days, then send in the full deployment of US Army, arrest all these white punks and send them to federal jails in the south
     
    The US Army is not the continental Presidential police force, is it?

    I don't think it is legal to deploy the Army the way you are describing. National Guard yes, Army no. Feds can invade States.

    Am I wrong, indocon?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @huisache, @Stunned Billionaire

    the US Army invaded my state in 1861 with a lot less provocation than this

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @huisache


    the US Army invaded my state in 1861 with a lot less provocation than this

     

    Yes, but your state helped set the precedent by invading ours in order to interfere with the self-deportation of illegal African aliens.

    Replies: @Rob McX

  319. @Anon
    Every time blacks yammer on about how they built America and deserve reparations for it, point out that they keep burning it down. Tally up all the arson, looting, riot, and vandalism damage that blacks have done over the years and charge them for it.

    Has anyone ever worked out how much whites have paid to blacks for welfare, how much whites have had to pay for black crime, and how much whites have ever had to pay to repair black riot damage? The bill for the 60s riots was huge. Someone needs to add all this up to make a point. The sum will be a lot higher than what blacks have ever added to this country's economy.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Truth

    Has anyone ever worked out how much whites have paid to blacks for welfare, how much whites have had to pay for black crime, and how much whites have ever had to pay to repair black riot damage?

    LOL, only every 4th thread around here…

  320. @Anon
    @Arclight

    Yep, let them raze Minneapolis for another week. It will serve as a nice reminder to any dopey upper midwest Protestants & Lutherans that multiculturalism will have a large price, moving forward. Give them something to think about when they vote for Biden & Minority Co.

    Minneapolis is the perfect city for this actually, because it's always been portrayed as a post-racial utopia.

    Maybe they can burn down Madison WI next?

    Replies: @Arclight

    It would be similar – both don’t actually have a lot of blacks residents, but despite causing a huge amount of social disorder they get treated deferentially by the politicians and other progressives. Hopefully this is a redpill moment for a lot of clueless Midwesterners.

    • Replies: @sayless
    @Arclight

    One of the looters/rioters openly called to Move It To The Suburbs. Bet that pricked up a few ears. Some of the suburb dwellers are probably speculating that maybe it would be a good idea to buy a gun, and learn how to use it.

  321. @res
    @MEH 0910

    It is interesting how focused they seem to be on keeping Klobuchar out of the VP slot. Is anyone else getting near the number of negative articles she is? Why?

    Replies: @JimB, @Arclight, @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

    The Stacy Abrams for VP shadow campaign is in high gear, that’s why.

  322. On a lighter note but similat in nature to whats happening in Minneapolis.

    One can’t help but laugh. Nature imitating real life.

    Monkeys ‘escape with coronavirus samples’ after attacking lab assistant

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/monkeys-escape-with-coronavirus-samples-after-attacking-lab-assistant/ar-BB14LeVG?li=AAggNb9

  323. Seems like the MSM/tribe have taken energy from the ‘lockdown’, the assault on American Whites has been particularly concerted during the last few weeks. Like a final push. The normie American whites just don’t seem to realise that they’re being attacked, very Dodo-like.

  324. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Boethiuss
    @Ed


    It very well could turn Minnesota Red. Trump’s tweet about shooting the looters was spot on. Meanwhile the Dems paralyzed by fear over what to do including allowing a police building to burn will only harm them.
     
    In another world it just might. But in this world white people already know what they think about Trump, and the Republican Party with Trump as its leader, and the answer isn't very good. Riots or no riots, there no reason to change their mind.

    Replies: @e, @Anonymous, @vinteuil

    In another world it just might. But in this world white people already know what they think about Trump, and the Republican Party with Trump as its leader, and the answer isn’t very good. Riots or no riots, there no reason to change their mind.

    What would need to change for them to change their mind?

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @Anonymous


    What would need to change for them to change their mind?
     
    Now? My guess is nothing, it's all baked into the cake.

    But if Trump could somehow have got it together starting around March 1st and made an effort to sound like a normal person, he probably would have gotten a big bounce in the favorability polls just like every other politician did.
    , @sayless
    @Anonymous

    "What would need to change for them to change their mind?"

    The present situation seems like a beaker full of super-saturated liquid that hasn't crystallized yet. All it needs is a tap on the side and it'll crystallize. Can't think what form that tap will take, though. I'm confident the paradigms will all change in a relatively brief time.

    It'll be a minor apocalypse, an unveiling. I hope so.

  325. @e
    @Boethiuss

    In another world it just might. But in this world white people already know what they think about Trump, and the Republican Party with Trump as its leader, and the answer isn’t very good. Riots or no riots, there no reason to change their mind.

    Wrong. As POTUS he hasn't changed what he said when he was Citizen Trump about such behavior. and people know and appreciate that: they are "thugs" and they play this game for fun and profit and everyone knows it.

    More votes for the Donald in MN.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    Wrong. As POTUS he hasn’t changed what he said when he was Citizen Trump about such behavior. and people know and appreciate that……

    They might, it doesn’t mean they’re going to vote for him, which has been a theme of the Trump Presidency for a long time now. People, especially normie white voters, might very well agree with Trump about this or that, but they are very reluctant at best to politically empower Trump, and most likely will simply refuse to do it under any circumstance.

    How much do we really expect normie white voters to be persuaded by undocumented shopping in Minneapolis when the world is being turned upside down by the coronavirus?

  326. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @prime noticer
    Joe Biden will be President, and this stuff will be normal moving forward.

    so time to start discussing how to proceed, communicate, and organize when Democrats begin eliminating sites like this from the internet. one day in the first or second year of Biden's term, this site will just disappear from the internet overnight, with no way for like minded people to get back in contact.

    Steve doesn't care, because he's old, and just about retired, but the rest of us better care, better do something. Steve will just do his usual snark blogging about the Obama crime increase, which will become the Biden crime increase, and that will be that for his 'contribution'.

    like Charles Murray, Sailer has become a rather disappointing figure, who prefers to do a play by play as the Titanic sinks, rather than actually doing anything.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @tyrone, @anon

    like Charles Murray, Sailer has become a rather disappointing figure, who prefers to do a play by play as the Titanic sinks, rather than actually doing anything.

    Everyone must do their part. Steve is doing his.

    • Agree: PSR
  327. @Anonymous
    @Jus' Sayin'...


    The bottom line is that this one cop deserves to be fired from the police force, he deserves to do prison time for some form of homicide (not murder), and he’ll probably face civil liabilities that will make the rest of his life an endless misery.
     
    It depends on what police practices are when a large, powerful man is resisting arrest. It depends on how much pressure the officer was actually applying to Chauvin’s neck and back.It depends on how aware he was of where the pressure was applied. It depends on whether he was aware he was harming Chauvin. (Arrestees commonly and falsely claim that the “can’t breathe.”) It depends on what his intention was. It depends on the cause of death.

    By some appearances, the officer was not aware of what was going on with Floyd. Does he deserve to have his life destroyed for a mistake?

    Replies: @Truth, @TheMassageIsTheMedium

    . Does he deserve to have his life destroyed for a mistake?

    LOL, why the hell not, the other guy did!

    • Replies: @Sam Haysom
    @Truth

    No the other guy was able to assault a woman with a deadly weapon and spend less than five years in jail. Like most black people including you he just kept making mistakes and finally he got what he had coming. That said he did a lot more to make whites peoples’ lives unpleasant than you did so he’s a comparative success.

    Replies: @Truth, @By-tor

    , @Anonymous
    @Truth



    . Does he deserve to have his life destroyed for a mistake?
     
    LOL, why the hell not, the other guy did!
     
    Because it was a mistake made in good faith in a difficult situation.

    Replies: @Truth

  328. @indocon
    @Daniel Williams

    Trump needs to stay back and let this burn for a few more days, then send in the full deployment of US Army, arrest all these white punks and send them to federal jails in the south

    Replies: @J.Ross, @VinnyVette, @botazefa, @Pericles

    The hundreds of antifa arrested at Trump’s inauguration were, from what I recall, quietly released a short time after. Just kids, man!

  329. @Anon
    @Franz

    The people burning down the cities are demons and so are you for cheering it on. When you die, you're not going to be judged by what country you're from. Every individual is responsible for their own actions.

    Replies: @Franz

    The people burning down the cities are demons and so are you for cheering it on.

    You miss the point.

    The USA is busy telling the world it’s the only model to follow, often bombing them when they disagree, and can’t keep peace on its own streets.

    Why should the recipients of American bombs not see this as divine retribution? Or at least what goes around comes around? And why should they not feel a bit of satisfaction when chickens come home to roost?

    Off course it was the rich (such as rich bitch Mad Madeline Albright) who sent the dogs out, and poor American will pay the price. It’s always like that. Till ordinary folks find a way to remove the real demons, this will continue till there’s nothing left.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Franz


    Off course it was the rich (such as rich bitch Mad Madeline Albright) who sent the dogs out, and poor American will pay the price. It’s always like that. Till ordinary folks find a way to remove the real demons, this will continue till there’s nothing left.
     
    It's true that elites like Albright are primarily responsible, but a significant chunk of the ordinary people are responsible as well.

    Most conservatives and Republican voters, including MAGA populist types, are reflexively jingoistic and willingly support and join the armed forces and vote for and support interventionism. The morally principled anti-interventionists are a small minority. These people are the material and moral basis for American foreign policy and intervention around the world. If these people weren't reflexively jingoistic and joined the armed forces, these foreign policies would have no chance of being implemented.

    People here complain about liberals and Jews, but they don't brainlessly support US foreign policy interventionism and join the armed forces. People here especially blame the Jews, but Jews were among the most anti-Iraq War demographic groups in the country.

    Most of these ordinary folks don't care about the millions of dead and devastation caused by US foreign policy. They will never "remove the real demons," because they are like the zombie horde of the demons. It will continue until these ordinary folks themselves are reduced in power and the real demons no longer have the material basis of their power.
  330. @sayless
    @Boethiuss

    I see the point you're making, but the pandemic is new, or at least the reaction to this one is new. But black dysfunctionality, violence, destruction of property is an old story and everyone is sick of it. Even Obama was sick of it. He said about the Ferguson riots (or was it Baltimore?) "I've seen this movie before..."

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    I see the point you’re making, but the pandemic is new, or at least the reaction to this one is new. But black dysfunctionality, violence, destruction of property is an old story and everyone is sick of it. Even Obama was sick of it. He said about the Ferguson riots (or was it Baltimore?) “I’ve seen this movie before…”

    Absolutely it is. My point is that we’re pissing away our own leverage by sticking with Trump in a world where normie white voters are determined to tune him out. It’s pretty clear at this point that whatever the issue is, immigration, minority riots and social agitation, anything else, we’re not ever going to get any more than we have now with Trump as President.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @res
    @Boethiuss


    Absolutely it is. My point is that we’re pissing away our own leverage by sticking with Trump in a world where normie white voters are determined to tune him out.
     
    Quit pretending you do or ever did support Trump. The blackpilling TDS trolling schtick is beyond tiresome already and it is only May. I really hope we don't have to put up with it through November.

    P.S. For anyone inclined to take Boethiuss seriously about Trump (or anything else for that matter) please spend a few minutes reviewing his comment history before the 2016 election. Which just happens to be when he first showed up here.

    Replies: @anon

    , @Charon
    @Boethiuss

    You've done everything you can to undercut Trump (and by extension, what's left of America) each and every step of the way.

    Fortunately, that's next to nothing.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    , @jb
    @Boethiuss

    Agreed. I voted for Trump and intend to vote for him again, but at this point I think he has been a disaster, because: 1) he has mostly failed to come through on the promises that got him elected; and 2) he has hopelessly alienated many voters (including some lukewarm liberals) who are not unsympathetic to our side on the issues and could have been won over.

    2) is worse. Most people don't join parties based on a careful analysis of the issues; they join a team based on its brand and how it makes them feel, and once they solidly identify with a team it's hard to make them switch. Trump's hideous personal issues have provoked an undetermined but probably substantial number of fence-sitters into committing to the Democrats, and I think this is going to cost the Republicans dearly, not only in this election but many to come.

    At this point, hard as it is to say, I think it probably would have been better if Hillary had won in 2016. Her policies would have been terrible, but they would have been largely blocked by a Republican Congress. And instead of Trump poisoning the Republican brand it would have been Hillary poisoning the Democrats, setting them up for a fall in 2020. The Republican candidate might have been the usual Conservationism Inc. droid, but there is at least a chance that the example of Trump's winning the nomination in 2016 might have inspired a populist revolt, and we'd end up with someone decent. Not the best scenario admittedly (the best would have been Trump turning out to have a brain!), but probably better than what we are looking at now. I'm really hoping I'm wrong, but I'm terrified that the Democrats are not only going to win the Presidency but control of both houses of Congress in November, and then the floodgates will open!

    Replies: @Daniel H

  331. @Truth
    Hey guys; your president was right about one thing: I think I'm getting tired of 'winning.'

    Replies: @fish

    Oh Troofy…..was dat you Old Sport….. hammering teh Target™ self checkout machine?

    • Replies: @Truth
    @fish

    Nah, I would have done it before the cash drawer was removed.

  332. Anon[404] • Disclaimer says:

    Medical Examiner who autopsied Floyd says there was no evidence that Floyd died of strangulation or traumatic asphyxia.

    “The Hennepin County Medical Examiner (ME) conducted Mr. Floyd’s autopsy on May 26, 2020. The full report of the ME is pending but the ME has made the following preliminary findings. The autopsy revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation. Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease. The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.”

    This is quoted from the arrest warrant of the cop who knelt on Floyd. It’s on page 3 of the document.

    https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6933246/Derek-Chauvin-Complaint.pdf

  333. @Franz
    But as always, some people get what they want (Department of Pouring Gas on Fires):

    Actress Frances Fisher called for a "race war" against white people

    www.informationliberation.com/?id=61476

    Actress Frances Fisher called for a "race war" against white people in response to George Floyd's death and said she is on team "#BlackLivesMatter."

    Fisher, who identifies as Jewish, tweeted Tuesday: "They want a race war. We'll give them a race war. I'm with #BlackLivesMatter. We will win."
     
    Someone needs to clue this dumb cupcake: We've been at this war for generations. Except it wasn't whites that wanted it.

    Replies: @Pericles

    OK Frances, if you’re sure that’s what you want.

  334. Off-topic: Trump has announced the United States will leave (“terminate its relationship with”) the World Health Organization.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/us/coronavirus-us-usa.amp.html

  335. @Coag
    @jtgw


    Certainly clear that state losing its legitimacy across the country. Murray Rothbard would be pleased.
     
    No. The rioters are not anarchists. They are Leninists. For them, the state is an essential who/whom weapon. They don’t want to abolish the state. They want a South African-style state to liquidate their race enemies.

    How many of the rioters collected food stamps, subsidized housing, covid benefits, and other paychecks signed by the state? They would be nothing without the state. Little Murray Rothbards, they ain’t.

    Replies: @Franz

    How many of the rioters collected food stamps, subsidized housing, covid benefits, and other paychecks signed by the state? They would be nothing without the state.

    And as some of us already guessed, our old pals: Outside agitators.

    “I will just say it was clear to me and hearing from local community leaders that many of the people involved were not known Minneapolitans,” Arradondo said.

    “There were certainly those not recognized as being from the city.”

    https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/police-chief-much-of-riot-damage-caused-by-those-from-outside-minneapolis

  336. Since AT&T and Verizon and Apple and Google are continuously tracking everybody’s phone GPS so that they can keep a spreadsheet of whenever you got within 6 feet of a flu bug carrier, does that mean they have a list of everybody who was present at the Minneapolis riots and they are now processing the arrest warrants for thousands of people?

  337. @Whiskey
    Its over. Its like the Rodney King Riots in 1992. That got Bill Clinton elected. Pure and simple.

    Black people riot, burn stuff down, beat down Whites. And Whites surrender and do what they are told.

    That video of police running away is a metaphor for Trump and White America. Heck there may not be a Republican left.

    Its like 9/11 -- we got unlimited Muslim immigration, mosques all over the place, the Empire State Building lit up for Eid (what the hell is that Holiday? Its not a real holiday like Christmas and Easter and Halloween).

    Replies: @Tusk, @Anonymous, @JMcG, @Anonymous, @JohnPlywood, @e, @AnotherDad, @ben tillman

    Its over. Its like the Rodney King Riots in 1992. That got Bill Clinton elected.

    What?

  338. @Anonymous
    Black business owner cries over his Sports Bar being destroyed, then repulses negroes trying to steal his safe:

    https://twitter.com/FatherKee/status/1266245256682430465?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1266245256682430465&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsummit.news%2F2020%2F05%2F29%2Fblack-business-owner-who-invested-life-savings-into-looted-bar-i-dont-know-what-im-gonna-do%2F

    Replies: @Pericles

    Just part and parcel of living in the big city, fella.

  339. @teo toon
    @J.Ross


    scrawny masked white
     
    Scrawny? He is a cop. The kid who tried to stop him and then followed him instinctively knew he was a cop; he has even been outed.
    Just watch the video and observe how the guy walks and stands.

    Replies: @Sam Haysom

    He’s been outed to the extent that Michele Obama has been outed as a dude. There’s a lot of pics where she is bulging a lot more than Obama. Lol.

  340. @Alfa158
    That was a rather extreme form of the blue flu. They didn’t just call in sick, they actually evacuated the building en masse. Maybe they decided to send a message to the city government and citizens. “There you go, no police brutality, nothing to complain about now”. We are seeing increasingly more of this siege mentality in the police, they regard all civilians as potential problems and just want to get through their brief careers and collect that sweet big city emergency responder pension.

    Replies: @Alden

    Mayor Frey was on TV this morning and stated he gave the order to withdraw.

  341. @Gordo
    @J.Ross


    Unfortunately Justice Department policy is to not interfere with leftist terrorism, let alone prosecute it, and this policy has only become more serious under Trump.
     
    Looks like you are right, when does this change and the bodies of the commies get thrown in the canal? History demands this.

    Replies: @TheMassageIsTheMedium

    It will happen, but not in the way they think. Black hostility against whites may be at an all-time high right now. The 80 IQ black mobs may not make a difference between white cops and white Antifa.

  342. @Cloudbuster
    @Boethiuss

    It's not the red states that have suffered the most under Coronavirus, and it's not Trump's decisions that made things worse, both economically and with regard to disease spread.

    Anyone who blames Trump simply isn't thinking.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    It’s not the red states that have suffered the most under Coronavirus, and it’s not Trump’s decisions that made things worse, both economically and with regard to disease spread.

    A large part of the iSteve commentariat wants to believe this, and for those who do, they are profoundly misunderstanding our present circumstances.

    Even if we can argue that Trump’s actual leadership wrt coronavirus hasn’t actually been that bad, it’s becoming very very clear that normie white voters aren’t buying any more of Trump’s persona and his derpy bullshit. Obviously, in objective terms the virus is going to have a huge economic and mortality fallout, no matter what the various authorities do or have done, but politically speaking it’s the derp that kills.

    This is different than where we were in January where things were a little more in flux. Then, you could hope that voters would be motivated to vote for someone they trusted to represent them as opposed to CNN or google, who are representing other people. Now, people want clarity, intelligence, and action with purpose. And Trump isn’t giving us those things.

  343. @Znzn
    @Jonathan Mason

    They should all just be machine gunned.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Buffalo Joe

    Trouble is some of the dead looters will be A student 14 year old girls whose ambition was to be a doctor.

  344. @Anonymous
    As far as I know, Minneapolis is just about the coldest damn spot in the contiguous USA. Painfully and ridiculously cold in mid winter.
    As a native of London, England, where it hardly ever gets seriously cold in winter, but, nevertheless a hard English winter is tough and demoralising enough - I know enough about cold weather that when, given the choice, I would rather avoid it - I simply cannot understand why most of the world's tropically adapted people seem to be making a beeline for Minneapolis.

    The unkind might say "it's just because of the gibs".

    Replies: @Stealth, @Joe Stalin, @Redman, @Anonymous

    I think Fargo takes that honor. That being said, Minneapolis is a bastard as it pertains to winter weather.

  345. @Whiskey
    @Tusk

    Which data point makes more sense? In 2016 we had sniper fire. No mob to appease. In 1992 we had the mob. Lesson do what Black people order or you burnt out. Vote Dem you don't get hurt.

    That has been the ploy since FDR and Detroit 1943. It always works.

    My guess is total rout like the cops and the Purge movies become reality for Whiteys at Bidens inaugural.

    Replies: @Tusk, @Cloudbuster, @indocon, @ben tillman

    Which data point makes more sense? In 2016 we had sniper fire. No mob to appease. In 1992 we had the mob. Lesson do what Black people order or you burnt out.

    No, the lesson is that Leftists favor aggressors. Where the government is not out-of-control Leftists, it simply stops the riot with force. Blacks have nothing going for them in Minnesota or any riot other than support from the media and (sometimes) government. This is a riot by the mayor.

    • Replies: @Joseph Doaks
    @ben tillman

    "This is a riot by the mayor."

    Yes, but only because the rioters are lefties.

  346. @22pp22
    I know white Americans are proud of what their ancestors built. If I were a white American, I would be proud, too. I hate to say this, but your country is no longer viable. You hate each other too much. America will have to split into smaller units that are cohesive and put the interests of their own citizens first.

    This is not obvious to Americans who are emotionally bound up with their homeland. To an outsider, it is increasingly undeniable.

    Pity that California will have to go. It's a beautiful place.

    The liberal whites who live there are used to getting away with being masochists because they live in a white-majority country. When they are a hated minority in California, their sanctimony will come back to bite them.

    It couldn't happen to nicer people. Build a wall to keep them out of what is left of your country.

    Replies: @snorlax, @anon, @XYZ (no Mr.), @Regret, @Anonymous, @epochehusserl, @anonn, @Charon

    Leftist Californian here: you’re right, it’s time to break up the USA. I don’t want to be in a country with you any more than you want to be in a country with me. Once we stop having to subsidize the red states, stop paying a trillion dollars a year for history’s biggest and most worthless military, and stop paying Israel, I’m confident we can build a just and prosperous social democracy.

    Even if I’m wrong and you all are right, and we turn into Brazil, fine.

    Every polity in history comes to an end. This isn’t going to get better. Who, besides Israel and defense contractors, is this working for anymore?

    • Replies: @True DFL Liberal
    @anonn

    Leftist Californian here: you’re right, it’s time to break up the USA. I don’t want to be in a country with you any more than you want to be in a country with me.

    Dude, you're there already...22pp22 is in New Zealand...lol.

    , @22pp22
    @anonn

    Your future. Enjoy.

    https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/us-world/border-mexico/article/Acapulco-once-popular-Mexican-town-deteriorates-12462124.php#item-85307-tbla-7

    https://www.lmtonline.com/border-mexico/article/Photos-capture-the-brutal-violence-of-towns-near-11723692.php#item-85307-tbla-8

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/white-farmers-tortured-with-drills-and-blowtorches-afrikaner-rights-group-claims-3ln553mbw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev0NUXEtIVA

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate

  347. @Truth
    @Anonymous


    . Does he deserve to have his life destroyed for a mistake?
     
    LOL, why the hell not, the other guy did!

    Replies: @Sam Haysom, @Anonymous

    No the other guy was able to assault a woman with a deadly weapon and spend less than five years in jail. Like most black people including you he just kept making mistakes and finally he got what he had coming. That said he did a lot more to make whites peoples’ lives unpleasant than you did so he’s a comparative success.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Sam Haysom


    That said he did a lot more to make whites peoples’ lives unpleasant than you did...
     
    As far as you know.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNkrF43SZEU
    , @By-tor
    @Sam Haysom

    'Truth' is a phony black.

  348. Moon is always dependable for a touch of the surreal:

    Calls for President Xi of China to provide the American rebels with the means to defend themselves against the regime have not yet been answered.

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/05/begun-the-civil-wars-of-2020-have-.html

    Not yet to Hnery Kissinger’s dream moment of UN troops bringing order to the USA, but the situation the man’s been praying for is starting to materialize.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Franz

    Nothing surreal about the People's Republic of China selling arms to Yankee "rebels."


    U.S. FOILS MAJOR SMUGGLING OPERATION
    Jane Meredith Adams. Special to the Tribune

    Two federal undercover agents--one of them posing as a suave Mafia operative from Miami--negotiated with Chinese arms dealers for more than 16 months to bring about the largest seizure of smuggled automatic weapons in American history, federal officials said Thursday.

    In releasing the first details of a sting operation that led to the arrests of seven suspects Wednesday in the San Francisco Bay Area, federal officials told a spy-thriller tale of arms-import deals gone wrong, money buried under a potted tree and the payment of hundreds of thousands of dollars to illegally import 2,000 AK-47 rifles with a street value estimated at $4 million.

    While many of the suspected smugglers have direct ties to two state-owned Chinese weapons manufacturing companies, federal officials would not say whether the guns had been illegally imported with the knowledge of the Chinese Communist government. Seven other suspects remain at large in China.

    Of the two weapons firms, the China Northern Industrial Corp., also known as Norinco, and Polytech, the latter supplies the Chinese military.

    "Several People's Republic of China citizens charged in this are being sought, and some do have an association with government arms distributors," said Geoffrey A. Anderson, assistant U.S. attorney and chief of the organized-crime strike force in Northern California.

    The wood-handled weapons were headed for street gangs in cities across America, said Michael Yamaguchi, U.S. attorney for Northern California. "The intent was to put high-powered weapons in our neighborhoods," he said. "They are often the choice of extremist groups and street gangs."

    The sting came at an awkward time in U.S.-China relations, which have suffered recently because of persistent Chinese copyright violations of U.S. intellectual property, continued human rights abuses and the discovery that a Chinese company had exported to Pakistan equipment that can be used in the development of nuclear weapons.

    Meanwhile, China's most favored nation trading status is due for annual renewal, and President Clinton is pressing for congressional approval despite mounting frictions in the U.S.-China relationship.

    Wayne N. Yamashita, assistant special agent in charge of the U.S. Customs Service in San Francisco, said the capture of the weapons was extremely significant.

    "The primary purpose for a fully automatic weapon is to kill people," he said. "It's not a hunting weapon."

    The sting began in December 1994 after a Customs informant tipped the agency that Hammond Ku, a Taiwanese resident alien living in Soquel, Calif., had several thousand Chinese-manufactured weapons in crates labeled from Polytech and Norinco stored in his warehouse.

    Ku told government agents that the Chinese government had "full knowledge" of the deal, according to the affidavit.

    Working under the code name Operation Dragon Fire, an undercover agent from the Treasury Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, posing as a Mafia member, got in touch with Ku, as did an undercover Customs agent, who posed as a man who said he knew how to get around Customs officials at the Port of Oakland.

    Months of tentative dealing ensued via fax and in clandestine meetings in San Francisco hotels. Both agents were white men who did not speak Chinese. One deal fell apart and another then was put together, said Yamashita.

    Ku, 49, and others who facilitated the transaction said the rifles were just the beginning. They offered hand-held rockets, anti-aircraft missiles and even tanks.

    "They indicated to us the source would be almost limitless," said Yamashita. The motivation of the smugglers, he said, was "purely monetary."

    At one point, the Chinese arms dealers wanted the undercover agents to meet them outside the U.S.

    "They wanted us to go to China," said Yamashita, "which we refused."

    Federal officials would not say whether the Chinese arms dealers obtained the weapons legally in China and then exported them to the U.S. The weapons were made at the Norinco plant in Dalian, China, near North Korea. According to the affidavit, the manufacture involved the "active participation" of Norinco's vice president in China.

    The AK-47s were seized two months ago in a container that had been smuggled through the Oakland port on board the ship the Empress Phoenix. On Wednesday, agents seized 500 additional firearms, including some made in the U.S. as well as China, from Ku's warehouse.

    Agents then moved in to simultaneously arrest the seven suspects in a sweep from south of San Francisco to Sacramento.

    Of the seven, one was a white male from the Sacramento area, Kenneth Taylor, while the rest were either resident aliens or Chinese-Americans. Taylor's role was to provide the means to convert the rifles from semi-automatic to fully automatic, officials said.

    Others arrested included Linda Huang, 55, who is Ku's sister, who put 47 sample AK-47 rifles in her luggage on a plane from China to the U.S. for her brother, according to the affidavit. Clearing the sample shipment through Customs was set up as a test for the undercover Customs agent. He passed.

    Ku picked up the suitcase from an airport locker. Under their agreement, Ku then left $500 under a potted tree as payment for the undercover agent.

    Huang also used her travel agency to arrange for tickets for Ku and an aide to travel to China for negotiations.

    Chinese citizens named in the complaint include Qi Feng, who brokered the deal between the undercover agents and Norinco representatives; Lu Yi Lum, assistant president of Norinco, and two other Norinco officials.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1996-05-24-9605240246-story.html

     

  349. @Anonymous
    @Jus' Sayin'...


    The bottom line is that this one cop deserves to be fired from the police force, he deserves to do prison time for some form of homicide (not murder), and he’ll probably face civil liabilities that will make the rest of his life an endless misery.
     
    It depends on what police practices are when a large, powerful man is resisting arrest. It depends on how much pressure the officer was actually applying to Chauvin’s neck and back.It depends on how aware he was of where the pressure was applied. It depends on whether he was aware he was harming Chauvin. (Arrestees commonly and falsely claim that the “can’t breathe.”) It depends on what his intention was. It depends on the cause of death.

    By some appearances, the officer was not aware of what was going on with Floyd. Does he deserve to have his life destroyed for a mistake?

    Replies: @Truth, @TheMassageIsTheMedium

    That’s a pretty damn big mistake. He was crushing his neck while the guy said he couldn’t breathe and begged for his life. At the very least this is manslaughter. Like I said before, regardless of your political orientation no one in their right mind should want cops to have the legal ability to kill with impunity especially in a situation like this when his life is very very obviously not in danger. Never give the power of life and death to the state.

    Sometimes anger is all people have, like when gays rioted after Harvey Milk’s murderer was given a manslaughter charge for shooting someone point blank with intent to kill.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @TheMassageIsTheMedium


    That’s a pretty damn big mistake. He was crushing his neck while the guy said he couldn’t breathe and begged for his life.
     
    The preliminary autopsy report did not find asphyxiation or neck injury. Chauvin had most of his weight on the right knee and was trying not to put too much pressure on the neck. This was an unfortunate accident. Possibly negligent. But there was no intention to kill or do serious bodily injury.
  350. @Anonymous
    @Corvinus


    In one of the videos I watched describing the events there, a Latino woman shook her head and said (I’m paraphrasing) “What sense does this make to burn your community down? Fight back at with your vote, not your fists”.
     
    Meaning they should vote the Minneapolis mayor out of office?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Meaning they should vote the Minneapolis mayor out of office?”

    Sure. If that’s what the citizens of that fine city seek. Or they could desire to re-elect Trump or put in Biden in the 2020 Election. Whatever floats their boat. Are you ready to exercise your liberty of the franchise?

  351. @Anonymous
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    The moral of the story: sometimes rioting doesn’t just ‘burn out’ on its own. The MSP police are sending a terrible signal tonight; let’s hope the bill to be paid for it isn’t too steep.
     
    Is the black population in MSP large enough to cause any widespread or enduring civil unrest problem? I tend to doubt it.

    Replies: @Alden

    Minneapolis is 19 percent black. St Paul 13 percent that’s plenty to destroy a city. And St Paul is the state capital.

    10 percent is the tipping point.

    • Agree: By-tor
  352. res says:
    @Boethiuss
    @sayless


    I see the point you’re making, but the pandemic is new, or at least the reaction to this one is new. But black dysfunctionality, violence, destruction of property is an old story and everyone is sick of it. Even Obama was sick of it. He said about the Ferguson riots (or was it Baltimore?) “I’ve seen this movie before…”
     
    Absolutely it is. My point is that we're pissing away our own leverage by sticking with Trump in a world where normie white voters are determined to tune him out. It's pretty clear at this point that whatever the issue is, immigration, minority riots and social agitation, anything else, we're not ever going to get any more than we have now with Trump as President.

    Replies: @res, @Charon, @jb

    Absolutely it is. My point is that we’re pissing away our own leverage by sticking with Trump in a world where normie white voters are determined to tune him out.

    Quit pretending you do or ever did support Trump. The blackpilling TDS trolling schtick is beyond tiresome already and it is only May. I really hope we don’t have to put up with it through November.

    P.S. For anyone inclined to take Boethiuss seriously about Trump (or anything else for that matter) please spend a few minutes reviewing his comment history before the 2016 election. Which just happens to be when he first showed up here.

    • Agree: Coemgen, YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @anon
    @res

    P.S. For anyone inclined to take Boethiuss seriously about Trump (or anything else for that matter) please spend a few minutes reviewing his comment history before the 2016 election. Which just happens to be when he first showed up here.

    2016 was a remarkable year in a lot of comment sections for "long time readers" who had suddenly decided to post for the very first time! and who then proceeded to drop FUD bombs as often as possible.

    The variation I see some places now is the "Oh, I was totally for Trump then but now I just can't even..." from entities with nearly zero poasting history.

    Long term downers are another category. Notice how Coronavinus has been a very busy little bot on anything to do with Minneapolis, for example.

    Not all the blackpilling FUD peddlers are drawing a check from some foundation or 'zine, but plenty of them surely are.

  353. “Klobuchar is the reasonable safe choice for Biden — stuck with his stupid promise to run with a gyno-American.”

    Like AD, I thought Biden’s pledge was asinine. Why cut yourself off from potentially presidential running mates like U.S. Senator Sherrod Brown, who is extremely liberal but manages to win statewide elections in Ohio? But Biden and his campaign knew something the rest of us didn’t: the Tara Reade story was about to break, at least in fringe outlets like The Intercept and Vox. Eventually, it would find its way into the MSM, if only by indirection (“Why Are The New York Times and The Washington Post Ignoring The Tara Reade Allegations?”).

    Having Biden promise to name a woman as his running mate did two things at once: (1) it got out in front of the Reade story, and made a positive impression on women voters (and, perhaps of equal value, women journalists) before most people had ever heard Tara Reade’s name; (2) it froze the female politicians who would otherwise have been clamoring for Biden to withdraw from the race (remember Al Franken?), and turned them into some of Joe’s most fervent defenders.

    Far from being a stupid promise, Biden’s pledge has been a shrewd maneuver worthy of Machiavelli. Whomever in the Biden campaign came up with the idea is earning his or her keep, and then some. (Biden himself could not have thought of this on his own, but his eyes must have lit up when he realized it was a way to get Liz Warren and Kamala Harris to shut up and pay him some respect.)

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Gary in Gramercy

    So the Reade story is done? Or were all of the potential veep candidates put on record that they believe Joe and the election is 5 long months away.

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Gary in Gramercy


    ...it froze the female politicians who would otherwise have been clamoring for Biden to withdraw from the race
     
    It neutered them. It turned them into pussy cats.

    Ernst Stavro Bidenfeld.

    https://www.thenational.ae/image/policy:1.168790:1499298692/image/jpeg.
  354. @Rouetheday
    @snorlax

    This Trump tweet should have read something like this... "As I demonstrated during the pandemic I prefer to let our cities and states set their own policies... so if the mayor of Minneapolis and the Governor of Minnesota are OK with savages burning the Twin Cities to the ground I won't butt in. But, I promise them and all of America that I will strongly resist any attempt by Minnesota's leaders to shake down our nation's taxpayers for the billions of dollars they're going to want to fix their mess".

    Replies: @Truth

    Yeah, that would grow his alpha-male reputation (rolls eyes).

  355. The War Zone reports a Customs Predator B flying over Minneapolis.

    Bush I used Jefferson’s Insurrection Act to send the 7th Infantry and the 1st Marine Divisions to Los Angeles in 1992.

  356. @Old and Grumpy
    @JimDandy

    Cops are not friends of anyone on the right. They are unionized goons who work for the establishment.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    Okay, but why would a cop do that?

  357. @Daniel Williams
    Where’s Trump and the National Guard? Or is he generating material for campaign videos in a few months?

    Replies: @indocon, @anon, @JimDandy, @AnotherDad, @Federalist

    Where’s Trump and the National Guard?

    Be patient. Trump will get to it after he builds the wall, ends birthright citizenship, deports the illegal immigrants, and drains the swamp.

    • LOL: Daniel Williams
  358. @Anonymous
    As far as I know, Minneapolis is just about the coldest damn spot in the contiguous USA. Painfully and ridiculously cold in mid winter.
    As a native of London, England, where it hardly ever gets seriously cold in winter, but, nevertheless a hard English winter is tough and demoralising enough - I know enough about cold weather that when, given the choice, I would rather avoid it - I simply cannot understand why most of the world's tropically adapted people seem to be making a beeline for Minneapolis.

    The unkind might say "it's just because of the gibs".

    Replies: @Stealth, @Joe Stalin, @Redman, @Anonymous

  359. @Ian Smith
    @Mr. Anon

    People put up with a certain amount of crap from the police thinking that it’s the price for having someone deal with joggers.

    We’re at a point where defending yourself from blacks is racist, calling the cops on blacks is racist, the very existence of cops is racist, and moving to areas with zero blacks is racist. And all of said areas are being filled with Somali refugees anyway.

    We need racial divorce as Greg Johnson recommended:

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2015/03/irreconcilable-differences/?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=53ee82c52bc0dfbc5b513f1011a9a7c7fdade9b0-1590757643-0-AWtD3LE-pOFVO8wmNb7b6WGdW3yr66uuv-7yLuiRz3-r4mJJXf5V0sRnjxVxnLwQ90AvmzdXVPyEySJFb4SxdznkMXJyZ97Q1PdDdRLIdLK_Fi0bVlGnixy4IGa8sijGnJQLYPneu14S0Rx2MOEP36wcQ1x535j8W-ZgbxRynwWPewn1AIkWrG7mIOhuQaGqkanF3W4uanEI9k9FE8BzpLRN1wr58GjVHL790OVQTzuBU7_U79jreaDz-JzzfU4WsuOxvdB3X8b1LgQoBZDZ-dsgpuvEJq_xk05ZmryOFCM52ZOATjLTvM_g22IKcK7QDg

    Replies: @Truth

    People put up with a certain amount of crap from the police thinking that it’s the price for having someone deal with joggers.

    Really? How much?

    https://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhSCs38U0q76Q5d2E6&fbclid=IwAR1tfGB7ek68q3su8p8INcAo8I4M32tJvcJbld-dDVSx-lgy1L7a_Q0ulkk

  360. @Buffalo Joe
    I think it would be great if a few large and mid sized American cities had a black Mayor, black President of the City Council, black DA, black Chief of Police, black Fire Chief, black Superintendent of Schools, black School Board and then we could see how well they govern their city and be a shining example to the rest of the country. Oh, wait. I think Chicago,Detroit, Cleveland, Baltimore and Buffalo, to name a few, have all or most of those positions held by blacks and the results are not pretty.

    Replies: @Truth

    Stop it.

    I heard you have an autographed picture of Byron Brown in your living room.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Truth

    Truth, we call him Urkel.

    Replies: @anon

  361. @snorlax
    @notsaying

    https://imgur.com/a/cNhYSPJ

    Replies: @Rouetheday, @Charon

    According to the WSJ, Twitter blocked Trump’s tweets condemning the violence as “glorifying violence.”

    Trump condemned violent protesters in Minneapolis in a pair of tweets sent overnight, and said he could deploy the National Guard to “bring the City under control.”

    “These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen,” he wrote. “Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts.”

    Twitter Inc. placed a notice on the tweet and shielded it from view for breaking what the company said are its rules about glorifying violence.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/george-floyd-protests-latest-from-minneapolis-11590756519

    Never mind that Twitter runs a million tweets a day glorifying violence against white people…

  362. I’ll be curious to see what the demographics of the city are a few years from now. This is probably going to kick off a white flight migration especially since official policy seems to be to let it play out.

  363. @22pp22
    I know white Americans are proud of what their ancestors built. If I were a white American, I would be proud, too. I hate to say this, but your country is no longer viable. You hate each other too much. America will have to split into smaller units that are cohesive and put the interests of their own citizens first.

    This is not obvious to Americans who are emotionally bound up with their homeland. To an outsider, it is increasingly undeniable.

    Pity that California will have to go. It's a beautiful place.

    The liberal whites who live there are used to getting away with being masochists because they live in a white-majority country. When they are a hated minority in California, their sanctimony will come back to bite them.

    It couldn't happen to nicer people. Build a wall to keep them out of what is left of your country.

    Replies: @snorlax, @anon, @XYZ (no Mr.), @Regret, @Anonymous, @epochehusserl, @anonn, @Charon

    I hate to say this, but your country is no longer viable. You hate each other too much.

    The Triumph of the Tribe.

  364. Maybe US police would not shoot people so often if Americans did not have so many guns, or shot people so often, just a thought?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/identities/2016/8/13/17938170/us-police-shootings-gun-violence-homicides

    • Replies: @Saxon
    @Znzn

    Yes they should totally disarm because of your piece of rhetoric that doesn't pass the smell test of looking at actual crime stats where white Americans have the gun crime rates of Switzerland.

    , @Anonymous
    @Znzn


    Maybe US police would not shoot people so often if Americans did not have so many guns, or shot people so often, just a thought?
     
    Replace "Americans" with "poor negroes," and you may be onto something.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Znzn


    Maybe US police would not shoot people so often if Americans did not have so many guns, or shot people so often, just a thought?
     
    Come back when you have a plan for disarming them that doesn't include disarming us.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Znzn


    Maybe US police would not shoot people so often
     
    Maybe. I’m okay with the overall level of shootings, though.
  365. @res
    @MEH 0910

    It is interesting how focused they seem to be on keeping Klobuchar out of the VP slot. Is anyone else getting near the number of negative articles she is? Why?

    Replies: @JimB, @Arclight, @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

    It is interesting how focused they seem to be on keeping Klobuchar out of the VP slot. Is anyone else getting near the number of negative articles she is? Why?

    Her father is still alive, more popular, less objectionable, and at 92, makes Biden look young. Though he’s probably way more coherent.

  366. @Boethiuss
    @sayless


    I see the point you’re making, but the pandemic is new, or at least the reaction to this one is new. But black dysfunctionality, violence, destruction of property is an old story and everyone is sick of it. Even Obama was sick of it. He said about the Ferguson riots (or was it Baltimore?) “I’ve seen this movie before…”
     
    Absolutely it is. My point is that we're pissing away our own leverage by sticking with Trump in a world where normie white voters are determined to tune him out. It's pretty clear at this point that whatever the issue is, immigration, minority riots and social agitation, anything else, we're not ever going to get any more than we have now with Trump as President.

    Replies: @res, @Charon, @jb

    You’ve done everything you can to undercut Trump (and by extension, what’s left of America) each and every step of the way.

    Fortunately, that’s next to nothing.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @Charon


    You’ve done everything you can to undercut Trump (and by extension, what’s left of America) each and every step of the way.
     
    Yeah, 'cuz of course Trump is the only thing holding up what's left of America. (You can tell because of all the great things he accomplished once he got elected President. Made America Great Again, yessirree. To be honest, I'm kind of tired of all the winning.)
  367. @Whiskey
    @AnotherDad

    Some White actress I've never heard of us on Twitter urging Race war and siding with Blacks. Calling for eliminating White men. So there's that.

    Replies: @Rouetheday

    Yeah, one of them is France Fisher. I’m sure Clint Eastwood is now thinking to himself, “I can’t believe I stuck my dick in that much crazy”.

  368. @epebble
    @Boethiuss

    The network evening news today all had various Police Chiefs from all across America making statements that what they saw in Minneapolis is condemnable and not policing. There was no conditional like let's wait for investigation to ascertain facts etc., I have not heard or read a single statement from anybody advocating let's wait before judging. So, this might just be galvanizing moment for America. To what end I don't understand. May be the whole nation is depressed due to Covid.

    Replies: @Boethiuss, @botazefa, @Saxon

    Yes and the result of this will be a more militarized police that only cracks down on white people who “step out of line” by organizing legit protests against things like destroying monuments to their ancestors, rather than negroes using the death of a career criminal as an excuse to riot, burn, loot, etc. Guarantee you. As long as hostile foreign elites control the levers of power, you will never get anything you want and things will continue to get worse and worse for you and yours.

  369. @res
    @MEH 0910

    It is interesting how focused they seem to be on keeping Klobuchar out of the VP slot. Is anyone else getting near the number of negative articles she is? Why?

    Replies: @JimB, @Arclight, @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

    They’re saving the slot for someone they decided on months ago is why the liberals are so anti Klobuchar.

  370. @prime noticer
    Joe Biden will be President, and this stuff will be normal moving forward.

    so time to start discussing how to proceed, communicate, and organize when Democrats begin eliminating sites like this from the internet. one day in the first or second year of Biden's term, this site will just disappear from the internet overnight, with no way for like minded people to get back in contact.

    Steve doesn't care, because he's old, and just about retired, but the rest of us better care, better do something. Steve will just do his usual snark blogging about the Obama crime increase, which will become the Biden crime increase, and that will be that for his 'contribution'.

    like Charles Murray, Sailer has become a rather disappointing figure, who prefers to do a play by play as the Titanic sinks, rather than actually doing anything.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @tyrone, @anon

    And also I know for a fact that Steve DOSEN’T own a white horse!……the nerve

  371. @JimB
    @notsaying


    Not deliberate? How was it not deliberate?
     
    Like, why would a cop deliberately kill a man in front of somebody holding a camera? And why would he take 8 minutes to do it? This cop was obviously on some kind of power trip, but based on his personal arrest experience, he probably thought the 250 lbs bar bouncer was faking it. In his position, many officers might have thought the same thing, which explains why his three backup officers did nothing. Obviously the perp had an underlying health condition. And you forgot to ask Anonymous why he thought any riots were justified, given that they destroy your own community. But why should this fuck up be singled out for blowing up America? Here's an equally enraging incident that happened not too long ago in Sonoma Cty, CA. Cops forgot to take a recovered vehicle off the hot sheet and violently arrested the owner, who had asthma. They suffocated him in a choke hold. But since everyone was white in this incident, it all fucking went down the memory hole. The killer cop got fired but not prosecuted. By the way, the reason we have paramilitary cops in the first place are the obscene levels of violent criminality in black communities.

    https://youtu.be/s0yuoYS-nqE

    Replies: @travis, @V. Hickel, @Ben tillman, @John Johnson

    I agree, It seems unlikely the cop killed Floyd on purpose. But he clearly was at fault, although the man may have had a health condition. Maybe the autopsy will reveal evidence which exonerates him.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @travis


    I agree, It seems unlikely the cop killed Floyd on purpose. But he clearly was at fault, although the man may have had a health condition. Maybe the autopsy will reveal evidence which exonerates him.
     
    The preliminary report did not find neck trauma or asphyxiation. Officers are permitted to pin a suspect who is resisting arrest.
  372. @Anonymous
    @Almost Missouri

    When things are looking really desperate, Americans always blame “the limeys” for their problems as a last ditch attempt to direct the blame away from their own country for the huge racial problems there.

    I see this so often, Americans blame "the Brits" for slavery, for killing the Native Americans, for just about every unsavoury aspect of their history. It's a mystery to me why British people think the Americans are their allies

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Almost Missouri, @Ron Mexico, @AnotherDad, @fatmanscoop, @Joe Stalin

    710, Google Invasion of Normandy. As good a place as any to start.

  373. @Dumbo
    Is there anything more stupid than Antifa? I mean these morons will riot in support of Blacks and Muslims who would rape them, rob them or slit their throats the moment they are no longer useful. They are not even protesting for their own people. What a sad thing is to be an Antifa. Not to mention their general aspect and hygiene. If i had a son who became Antifa I would kill myself.

    Replies: @Ray P

    If i had a son who became Antifa I would kill myself.

    And he’d applaud you for it.

  374. @Truth
    @Reg Cæsar


    Wow. Frey makes Justin Trudeau seem like a tough guy.

    Never mind his dad:
     
    Brah, you got that right...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP31yJ6mAwE

    Replies: @Alden, @Reg Cæsar, @Cortes

    Oh wow Justin Trudeau sure looks like his father.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Alden

    You got that right Shuga...


    ...I mean ma'am. I forgot you was a Karen for a second Aldey, sorry.

  375. @anon
    The regressive left, after sparking a riot with their racist media coverage (WHITE kills BLACK headlines), has now reverted back to the prehistory concept of offering ritual sacrifice to appease the angry gods:

    Good citizens burning down the evil police precinct in MN after all police were out & safe. All police should go home. No violence please. Police HQ must be demolished by the city tomorrow as a show of contrition to black America. Rebuild PD with decent kind ppl aka ppl of color

    — Michael Moore (@MMFlint) May 29, 2020

     

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @HammerJack, @AnotherDad

    755, Thanks for the Michael Moore tweet. If all this racial animosity could be ended by one white throwing himself into a volcano do you think Moore would offer himself up?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Buffalo Joe


    755, Thanks for the Michael Moore tweet. If all this racial animosity could be ended by one white throwing himself into a volcano do you think Moore would offer himself up?

     

    Where would all the pressure go once that volcano is plugged?
    , @anonymous
    @Buffalo Joe

    Caesar is right, Mr. Joe. I once passed by Moore on the sidewalk in Manhattan. He is one fat bastard, so weighty that he walks pigeon-toed.
    His expression was that "Oh crap, he recognized me" look that you get a lot when you meet up with a famous person who is out and about.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Buffalo Joe


    755, Thanks for the Michael Moore tweet. If all this racial animosity could be ended by one white throwing himself into a volcano do you think Moore would offer himself up?
     
    He should count for at least three or four human sacrifices.
  376. BLM and/or Antifa Rioters

    aka the Committee to Reelect Donald Trump

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Percy Gryce

    Just love you "Landslide" people. Peace and prosperity? Landslide. Pandemic and rioting? Landslide. Alien invasion? Landslide.

    Well, that last one is a possibility.

  377. wren says:

    Maybe I have gotten too weak from this lockdown or maybe I am spending too much time thinking about China and this silly virus, but the thought of reading countless articles battling over the narrative on this or narrative-driving disinfo or articles debating which political side benefits from what destruction just isn’t too appealing to me right now. Sigh.

  378. @Anonymous
    @Almost Missouri

    When things are looking really desperate, Americans always blame “the limeys” for their problems as a last ditch attempt to direct the blame away from their own country for the huge racial problems there.

    I see this so often, Americans blame "the Brits" for slavery, for killing the Native Americans, for just about every unsavoury aspect of their history. It's a mystery to me why British people think the Americans are their allies

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Almost Missouri, @Ron Mexico, @AnotherDad, @fatmanscoop, @Joe Stalin

    I’m not doing this, nor have I seen any other American do this.

    As I think was clear, I insulted the Daily Mail for using the most hackneyed cliches in the American journalistic lexicon.

  379. @Kyle
    The big question is, how much of this is African Americans pissed of for racial reasosn, and how much of this is Americans in general pissed off and because of the lock down. Even liberals who nominally support the lockdown are upset because of the lockdown.

    Replies: @PSR

    You left out how much is caused by white ‘youths’ having fun by getting out of their parents’ basements for a while and black ‘youths’ after free stuff?

  380. jb says:
    @Boethiuss
    @sayless


    I see the point you’re making, but the pandemic is new, or at least the reaction to this one is new. But black dysfunctionality, violence, destruction of property is an old story and everyone is sick of it. Even Obama was sick of it. He said about the Ferguson riots (or was it Baltimore?) “I’ve seen this movie before…”
     
    Absolutely it is. My point is that we're pissing away our own leverage by sticking with Trump in a world where normie white voters are determined to tune him out. It's pretty clear at this point that whatever the issue is, immigration, minority riots and social agitation, anything else, we're not ever going to get any more than we have now with Trump as President.

    Replies: @res, @Charon, @jb

    Agreed. I voted for Trump and intend to vote for him again, but at this point I think he has been a disaster, because: 1) he has mostly failed to come through on the promises that got him elected; and 2) he has hopelessly alienated many voters (including some lukewarm liberals) who are not unsympathetic to our side on the issues and could have been won over.

    2) is worse. Most people don’t join parties based on a careful analysis of the issues; they join a team based on its brand and how it makes them feel, and once they solidly identify with a team it’s hard to make them switch. Trump’s hideous personal issues have provoked an undetermined but probably substantial number of fence-sitters into committing to the Democrats, and I think this is going to cost the Republicans dearly, not only in this election but many to come.

    At this point, hard as it is to say, I think it probably would have been better if Hillary had won in 2016. Her policies would have been terrible, but they would have been largely blocked by a Republican Congress. And instead of Trump poisoning the Republican brand it would have been Hillary poisoning the Democrats, setting them up for a fall in 2020. The Republican candidate might have been the usual Conservationism Inc. droid, but there is at least a chance that the example of Trump’s winning the nomination in 2016 might have inspired a populist revolt, and we’d end up with someone decent. Not the best scenario admittedly (the best would have been Trump turning out to have a brain!), but probably better than what we are looking at now. I’m really hoping I’m wrong, but I’m terrified that the Democrats are not only going to win the Presidency but control of both houses of Congress in November, and then the floodgates will open!

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    @jb

    And instead of Trump poisoning the Republican brand .......

    This is a signal achievement of Trump's. If he can destroy the Republican party then all his BS will have been worth it. There is no way forward until the Republican party is destroyed and a new coalition forms to represent the true interests of the American people.

    Replies: @jb

  381. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Boethiuss

    Boethiuss says:
    October 19, 2016 at 11:16 am GMT
    @reiner Tor
    So what if I were you illiterate retard. Trump is still going to lose, and you were the ones who put him there.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1613926

    Boethiuss says:
    October 19, 2016 at 8:28 am GMT • 200 Words
    @Desiderius
    ...First of all, after the election, we’re all going to be despondent, and nobody except Hillary’s transition team is going to be paying attention to politics for a while. And just as important, the top of the ticket is a lost cause so the importance of the downticket races is magnified....
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1613841

    Boethiuss says:
    October 18, 2016 at 8:31 pm GMT • 100 Words
    @Difference Maker
    ... The heart of the matter is accepting responsibility for the failure of the Trump campaign....
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1613241

    Boethiuss says:
    October 17, 2016 at 1:31 pm GMT • 100 Words
    @reiner Tor

    ...No, Trump is going to lose because he’s a shit candidate and a shit person, and ultimately there has to be something about our politics besides adoration for Donald Trump.

    You fucked up, we all have to live with it, and “the GOPe” is going to do as best as they can to get us out of it.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1611552

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    “Everything is exactly the same as it was in 2016, and we’ve always been at war with Eurasia.”

  382. Anon[617] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Now that MPD officer Derek Chauvin has been arrested for murder and manslaughter he’ll been missing something a whole lot more than freedom.

    His hot 5’1”, 105 lb. Hmong wife!

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/05/29/13/28971280-8367283-image-a-1_1590755543974.jpg

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8367283/Wife-white-cop-kneeled-George-Floyds-neck-wrote-bad-check.html

    Replies: @Anon

    I think it was for 42 dollars. Anyone is allowed to bounce one small check amount in their life due to not remembering what they have in their bank account. It’s not a crime and your bank pay it and zaps you with a fee for it. Plenty of middle-class people have done it at least once.

    Floyd was trying to pass counterfeit money, which is a very different deal. I’ve never seen counterfeits in circulation. When you have it in your hand, it’s usually because you’re the one who counterfeited it.

    Floyd also had a serious criminal record before this time, including armed robbery.

  383. anon[288] • Disclaimer says:
    @res
    @Boethiuss


    Absolutely it is. My point is that we’re pissing away our own leverage by sticking with Trump in a world where normie white voters are determined to tune him out.
     
    Quit pretending you do or ever did support Trump. The blackpilling TDS trolling schtick is beyond tiresome already and it is only May. I really hope we don't have to put up with it through November.

    P.S. For anyone inclined to take Boethiuss seriously about Trump (or anything else for that matter) please spend a few minutes reviewing his comment history before the 2016 election. Which just happens to be when he first showed up here.

    Replies: @anon

    P.S. For anyone inclined to take Boethiuss seriously about Trump (or anything else for that matter) please spend a few minutes reviewing his comment history before the 2016 election. Which just happens to be when he first showed up here.

    2016 was a remarkable year in a lot of comment sections for “long time readers” who had suddenly decided to post for the very first time! and who then proceeded to drop FUD bombs as often as possible.

    The variation I see some places now is the “Oh, I was totally for Trump then but now I just can’t even…” from entities with nearly zero poasting history.

    Long term downers are another category. Notice how Coronavinus has been a very busy little bot on anything to do with Minneapolis, for example.

    Not all the blackpilling FUD peddlers are drawing a check from some foundation or ‘zine, but plenty of them surely are.

    • Agree: res
  384. @Muggles
    A few thoughts:

    Re: rioters taking over a police station. This was ordered by higher ups. One big problem is that if police start shooting rioters first, before getting shot at themselves, or seriously taken down and captured, then they will be seen as starting a one way massacre. Shooting unarmed civilians, no matter what they do, is nearly always seen as a bad idea. Politically, morally.

    You can retreat or use water cannons, etc. No idea why they abandoned their station.

    Re: the death. No one seems to be waiting for an autopsy. It seems highly likely that the arrested subject probably had some major health problem, Asthma, obesity, COPD, heart blockage. This doesn't disappear the cops over reaction during the arrest, using knee on neck, ignoring worsening situation. But for all we know this guy was high/drunk or at least seriously in poor health. Of course that's why cops need to behave less macho.

    As to result, someone may want to investigate, post election, how these Minn. precincts voted (Dem versus Rep) in the fall elections. Especially versus 2016. Or how riot impacted areas are affected. Do they become more "progressive" and crime tolerant, or less? The people who actually live/work there and lose property to looters, arson, etc. Does antifa actually help Dems anywhere?

    Replies: @Alden, @Anonymous

    The store owner who called the police told the dispatcher that Floyd was drunk or something, can’t control himself

  385. @Anonymous
    @Boethiuss

    I'm going to go out on a limb here and posit the Historic Deadly Cuomovirus spiel may not fulfill its destiny as the universal miracle Santa Claus issue this year. Not many elected Democrats have demonstrated a pronounced degree of control over it (as distinct from a hopeless thespian tendency for decrying it, that's been common).

    Anyway, when your party's agenda is based on running up the score among the bureaucrat/New Class and ethnic mafia populations in a couple dozen cities it doesn't accrue to the generic brand goodwill in swing states Hillary almost won yet seemed to consider morally suspect somehow

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    I’m going to go out on a limb here and posit the Historic Deadly Cuomovirus spiel may not fulfill its destiny as the universal miracle Santa Claus issue this year. Not many elected Democrats have demonstrated a pronounced degree of control over it (as distinct from a hopeless thespian tendency for decrying it, that’s been common).

    No. The Democrats maybe haven’t solved coronavirus or even performed appreciably better than any other political affiliation, but the one thing they haven’t done is derped the issue like Trump has. It’s the derp that kills. And as big as the impact has been, no one will ever forget it.

    Anyway, when your party’s agenda is based on running up the score among the bureaucrat/New Class and ethnic mafia populations in a couple dozen cities it doesn’t accrue to the generic brand goodwill in swing states Hillary almost won yet seemed to consider morally suspect somehow

    That’s right. The Democratic Party in 2020 has lots of strategic and tactical weaknesses that we can’t exploit because Trump.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Boethiuss

    You were full of reasons why Trump could lose in 2016, you are exactly the same now.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

  386. @Znzn
    @Jonathan Mason

    They should all just be machine gunned.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Buffalo Joe

    ZnZn, a late friend of mine was an Army MP during the WWII Detroit race riots. He told me and I believed him that he fired his Thompson at the rioters. Different times.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Buffalo Joe

    Years ago at the NRA range in Virginia, I saw a gun shoot a Thompson. He went through God only knows how much ammo real quick. It was very impressive.

  387. @Mike_from_SGV
    @Dave Pinsen

    Hey Dave I thought you and others were faking the Trump tweet, writing something that a President should say but of course no one of them would in real life … but it's real! So, finally we have a President who _might_ crack down on this domestic terrorism. I do think that if Trump handles this right, he will benefit in November, since Dems are basically the Angry POC Party, and what we see in MPLS represents the Dem future.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, Mike.

  388. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth
    @Anonymous


    . Does he deserve to have his life destroyed for a mistake?
     
    LOL, why the hell not, the other guy did!

    Replies: @Sam Haysom, @Anonymous

    . Does he deserve to have his life destroyed for a mistake?

    LOL, why the hell not, the other guy did!

    Because it was a mistake made in good faith in a difficult situation.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Anonymous

    Kneeling on a handcuffed guy's neck for 2 minutes with a smirk on your face and one hand in your pocket while he is telling you he can't breath is "in good faith?"

    Replies: @Anonymous

  389. @Thea
    @jtgw

    Once a new equilibrium is attained what form will it take?

    I think something lightly socialist with a policy like Brazil Or France where races aren’t recorded officially so no one can find gaps to get worked up over.

    Replies: @Saxon

    Except in France and Canada where this stuff is all hidden, they still complain. It’s just that there’s no data you can use to prove they’re wrong and how, so it just becomes pure narrative and control of megaphone at that point. Big surprise also that in those countries you still have all of the anti-white policies with all of the same justifications. You can’t live with racial alien masses long term. It’s pure poison.

  390. @Anonymous
    @Boethiuss


    In another world it just might. But in this world white people already know what they think about Trump, and the Republican Party with Trump as its leader, and the answer isn’t very good. Riots or no riots, there no reason to change their mind.
     
    What would need to change for them to change their mind?

    Replies: @Boethiuss, @sayless

    What would need to change for them to change their mind?

    Now? My guess is nothing, it’s all baked into the cake.

    But if Trump could somehow have got it together starting around March 1st and made an effort to sound like a normal person, he probably would have gotten a big bounce in the favorability polls just like every other politician did.

  391. @anon
    The regressive left, after sparking a riot with their racist media coverage (WHITE kills BLACK headlines), has now reverted back to the prehistory concept of offering ritual sacrifice to appease the angry gods:

    Good citizens burning down the evil police precinct in MN after all police were out & safe. All police should go home. No violence please. Police HQ must be demolished by the city tomorrow as a show of contrition to black America. Rebuild PD with decent kind ppl aka ppl of color

    — Michael Moore (@MMFlint) May 29, 2020

     

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @HammerJack, @AnotherDad

    Wait a minute, is that really Michael Moore or is that TD.

  392. @Anonymous
    @JSQ

    Nonsense. The white rioters aren't rioting out of some deep sense of discontent, or even out of genuine outrage at this particular wrongful death. They just wanna have fun LARPing as cool, badass anti-establishment revolutionaries.

    Replies: @John Achterhof, @Anonymous, @S. Anonyia, @Buck Ransom

    Isn’t there just a chance that Antifa is working for the Feds? They run around attacking people, committing vandalism and arson, and yet they are never prosecuted for anything.

    Think of that professor in Berkeley who was caught slamming people over the head with a bike lock wrapped in a scarf. There was video evidence of him in the act, and yet he got off scot-free.

    Maybe the role of Antifa is to create random, senseless chaos to terrify the public. The chaos will then justify the iron boot of the State that is to follow.

  393. @SafeNow
    https://pi.movoto.com/p/651/5487025_0_UnJueJ_p.jpeg

    Chanhassan, MN. 20 miles from Minneapolis. Superb demographics. $400k...for now. Residential and commercial property values in the Twin Cities will now tank. Manhattan is finished, for Covid reasons. Detroit-ization...but very fast.

    Replies: @Ho Chi Minh

    Chanhassan is where Prince chose to live and record.

  394. @Anonymous
    @Almost Missouri

    When things are looking really desperate, Americans always blame “the limeys” for their problems as a last ditch attempt to direct the blame away from their own country for the huge racial problems there.

    I see this so often, Americans blame "the Brits" for slavery, for killing the Native Americans, for just about every unsavoury aspect of their history. It's a mystery to me why British people think the Americans are their allies

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Almost Missouri, @Ron Mexico, @AnotherDad, @fatmanscoop, @Joe Stalin

    Well, on the two specifics you mentioned, yes, the Brits are to be blamed far more than the “United States.”

  395. @Percy Gryce

    BLM and/or Antifa Rioters
     
    aka the Committee to Reelect Donald Trump

    Replies: @HammerJack

    Just love you “Landslide” people. Peace and prosperity? Landslide. Pandemic and rioting? Landslide. Alien invasion? Landslide.

    Well, that last one is a possibility.

  396. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    This old-timey negress makes up modern slave spirituals and sings them out on her twitter page.

    She’s a modern day Mamma Jamma!

    • Replies: @sayless
    @Anonymous

    ''Take your knee off my neck!"

    Take your gun away from my stomach, George, and you and your buddies get out of my house.

  397. @Gary in Gramercy
    "Klobuchar is the reasonable safe choice for Biden -- stuck with his stupid promise to run with a gyno-American."

    Like AD, I thought Biden's pledge was asinine. Why cut yourself off from potentially presidential running mates like U.S. Senator Sherrod Brown, who is extremely liberal but manages to win statewide elections in Ohio? But Biden and his campaign knew something the rest of us didn't: the Tara Reade story was about to break, at least in fringe outlets like The Intercept and Vox. Eventually, it would find its way into the MSM, if only by indirection ("Why Are The New York Times and The Washington Post Ignoring The Tara Reade Allegations?").

    Having Biden promise to name a woman as his running mate did two things at once: (1) it got out in front of the Reade story, and made a positive impression on women voters (and, perhaps of equal value, women journalists) before most people had ever heard Tara Reade's name; (2) it froze the female politicians who would otherwise have been clamoring for Biden to withdraw from the race (remember Al Franken?), and turned them into some of Joe's most fervent defenders.

    Far from being a stupid promise, Biden's pledge has been a shrewd maneuver worthy of Machiavelli. Whomever in the Biden campaign came up with the idea is earning his or her keep, and then some. (Biden himself could not have thought of this on his own, but his eyes must have lit up when he realized it was a way to get Liz Warren and Kamala Harris to shut up and pay him some respect.)

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Jonathan Mason

    So the Reade story is done? Or were all of the potential veep candidates put on record that they believe Joe and the election is 5 long months away.

  398. @Buffalo Joe
    @anon

    755, Thanks for the Michael Moore tweet. If all this racial animosity could be ended by one white throwing himself into a volcano do you think Moore would offer himself up?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    755, Thanks for the Michael Moore tweet. If all this racial animosity could be ended by one white throwing himself into a volcano do you think Moore would offer himself up?

    Where would all the pressure go once that volcano is plugged?

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  399. @Truth
    @Reg Cæsar


    Wow. Frey makes Justin Trudeau seem like a tough guy.

    Never mind his dad:
     
    Brah, you got that right...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP31yJ6mAwE

    Replies: @Alden, @Reg Cæsar, @Cortes

    And you were proved right about Taylor Swift. She truly is a ditz:

    “After stoking the fires of white supremacy and racism your entire presidency, you have the nerve to feign moral superiority before threatening violence? ‘When the looting starts the shooting starts’??? We will vote you out in November. @realdonaldtrump.”

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
  400. AUTOPSY: “NO FINDINGS OF TRAUMATIC ASPHYXIA OR STRANGULATION”
    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
    Cause of death was heart attack by standard fried chicken and ribs diet plus possibly (probably) drugs
    “Floyd had underlying health conditions, including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease, which ‘combined with any potential intoxicants in his system’ likely contributed to his death.”
    YOU BURNED YOUR CITY DOWN BECAUSE A MIDDLE-AGED GREASE ENTHUSIAST HAD HIS INEVITABLE HEART ATTACK
    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
    HOW ARE CHEST PAINS REAL FELLOW JUST TREADMILL AWAY
    (actually I shouldn’t talk. But this was not a case of racist or mistrained police ending the life of an innocent black man.)

  401. @Anonymous
    @Almost Missouri

    When things are looking really desperate, Americans always blame “the limeys” for their problems as a last ditch attempt to direct the blame away from their own country for the huge racial problems there.

    I see this so often, Americans blame "the Brits" for slavery, for killing the Native Americans, for just about every unsavoury aspect of their history. It's a mystery to me why British people think the Americans are their allies

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Almost Missouri, @Ron Mexico, @AnotherDad, @fatmanscoop, @Joe Stalin

    I see this so often, Americans blame “the Brits” for slavery, for killing the Native Americans, for just about every unsavoury aspect of their history. It’s a mystery to me why British people think the Americans are their allies.

    Weird comment. I’ve lived in America 60+ and basically never heard this in the context you imply. People will point out that the slave trade was long ongoing European colonial thing not specifically an American thing. (I’d point out it has been a human universal since the neolithic. People with power use slavery or serfdom or taxation to live large on other people’s labor.) But Americans understand that their ancestors were precisely some the European people involved. Nothing anti-Brit about it. And no one blames the Brits for killing native Americans. Any of that before 1776 was precisely the Brits–and others–who became Americans.

    Almost’s “limecucks” comment was precisely on the other side of the ledger. That the Brits have lost their self-confidence, their pride, their will and are letting themselves get steamrolled by this sort of “slavery!” “colonialism!” b.s.

  402. @huisache
    @botazefa

    the US Army invaded my state in 1861 with a lot less provocation than this

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    the US Army invaded my state in 1861 with a lot less provocation than this

    Yes, but your state helped set the precedent by invading ours in order to interfere with the self-deportation of illegal African aliens.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Reg Cæsar

    You're definitely no fan of the South. I was going to call you an australophobe, but I found the word is already taken. It's French for someone who hates Albanians.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  403. @Anonymous
    @22pp22


    America will have to split into smaller units that are cohesive and put the interests of their own citizens first.

    This is not obvious to Americans who are emotionally bound up with their homeland. To an outsider, it is increasingly undeniable.
     
    Could you flesh out your argument here? What is your reasoning exactly that supports your assertion?

    Replies: @22pp22

    The DNC’s election platform is obviously and openly inspired by hatred of traditional America as ‘redneck’ and ‘racist.’ Even if they don’t win, it is still a platform that millions of Americans are happy to vote for. In most countries, screaming hatred of your own country’s identity and history is a quick way to lose an election. That is, amazingly, still true in the UK. Jeremy Corbyn tried DNC-style tactics and was wiped out.

    Do you remember the Brett Kavanaugh fiasco? The mask came off people like Nancy Pelosi, Maisey Hirono and Kamala Harris. They are motivated by an incandescent hatred of their own nation. How can you miss it? Redemption for its past sins involves the complete elimination of its founding-stock population and their replacement with better people from successful and tolerant societies like Mexico and the Congo.

    Tim Wise has made a fortune abusing whites on US campuses. There is no pushback. Jordan Petersen turns up and there is a riot. I used to be an academic and academia is the only part of America that I really know on a personal and intimate level. At after-conference dinner parties, I was the only person with anything positive to say about the place – and I was often the only non-American there.

    The worst thing about the US is the very obvious drug epidemic and yet it receives no coverage. Dealing with it should be priority number one. It isn’t because your own elites want you to die.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @22pp22

    "In most countries, screaming hatred of your own country’s identity and history is a quick way to lose an election. That is, amazingly, still true in the UK. Jeremy Corbyn tried DNC-style tactics and was wiped out."

    But while the Brexit voters in the Northern "Red Wall" voted against him on that ground, most of the damage was done by an organised and well funded campaign around non-existent "anti-semitism" due to his relatively neutral policies vis a vis Israel/Palestine.

    During the election campaign very few if any prominent voices were reminding the voters about his IRA fellow-travelling.

    Replies: @22pp22, @martin_2

  404. @anon
    Blacks burning down black neighborhoods.
    Nicey-nice liberal whites watching their city being trashed by their own radical kids.
    Business men who tolerate and encourage liberal race-baiting politics watching their businesses being destroyed by the Antifa thugs they've kowtowed to.
    This is a good thing. The white people of Minneapolis need many more beatings such as this to bring them back to reality.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    The white people of Minneapolis need many more beatings such as this to bring them back to reality.

    Your comment cheers me up. What you say is: There is still hope, right?

  405. @J.Ross
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I don't mean this in a disrespectful way but Minneapolis happens in the banlieu every day. America is still a near-paradise as long as you do not live in the parts that are (quick check) literally on fire. Western Europe is garbage for many important reasons, on top of the fact that they are increasingly filling up their smaller space with the firiest one. There were some holdouts who used to talk about how rural England or the French countryside have none of the problems of Paris or London, but that was never true, because most of the problems with Europe are laws or bad rulers. Now they cannot even say that they have escaped diversity. America is so big and rich that even when they are openly sacrificing babies it will be practical to live outside the system.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    You make some good points. Western Europe has higher population density and less space, so it’s harder to flee dysfunction. Also, Western Euro countries are much more lightly policed, so a large fraction of the worst people are unjailed and therefore are proudly unruly.

    As bad as it can get in America, you don’t really hear about stuff like Rotherham or Cologne.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @JohnnyWalker123


    As bad as it can get in America, you don’t really hear about stuff like Rotherham or Cologne.
     
    You don't hear about it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    When I worked for the department of Juvenile Justice some years ago we had 40 poor girls in a residential facility with ages ranging from 12 to 17, and every one of them had been involved in prostitution with large numbers of partners--nearly always with drugs as part of the incentive scheme. Our OB/Gyn bills were astronomical. All of them were being pimped by older men, and on release or when they turned 18, they often went right back to their pimps. This from the state where Epstein lived.
  406. Uhoh, I think I’m running low on popcorn.
    Time to don the mask and hit BoxMart to restock.

  407. Anonymous[413] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/MMFlint/status/1266225003407855616

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Rob McX

    Have Michael Moore and Tiny ever been seen in the same room together? I wonder…

  408. anon[106] • Disclaimer says:
    @prime noticer
    Joe Biden will be President, and this stuff will be normal moving forward.

    so time to start discussing how to proceed, communicate, and organize when Democrats begin eliminating sites like this from the internet. one day in the first or second year of Biden's term, this site will just disappear from the internet overnight, with no way for like minded people to get back in contact.

    Steve doesn't care, because he's old, and just about retired, but the rest of us better care, better do something. Steve will just do his usual snark blogging about the Obama crime increase, which will become the Biden crime increase, and that will be that for his 'contribution'.

    like Charles Murray, Sailer has become a rather disappointing figure, who prefers to do a play by play as the Titanic sinks, rather than actually doing anything.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @tyrone, @anon

    It would be stupid for the left to completely censor far-right thought online. If anything, social media has restrained the far right, since it allows 99.999% of them to LARP online, with the only ones meeting in-person being people attending intellectual conferences or low IQ losers who broadcast their intentions on their t-shirts. Not exactly threats to the establishment.

    Remove all far right talk online, 90% of conservatives will go along with it, including aforementioned LARPER’s, intellectuals and forensic club types. The other 10% will begin to quietly meet in-person and learn how to organize. It’s this later group that leads to action. And for good or bad, some societal persecution is needed to filter out the true believers.

    This is probably overdue anyway, since the intellectual framework for the nationalist right has been spelled out fairly clearly at this point, with everything else being leisure-time keystrokes. Also, the far right probably needs to stop voluntarily compiling evidence dossiers for the cops, so a social media blackout is probably for the best, even if the LARPERs, intellectuals and clout-chasers complain about being censored.

  409. Where is everyone following the riots on video tonight?

  410. @t
    https://twitter.com/SenSherrodBrown/status/1266392680910766080

    Replies: @PennTothal

    Someone should ask tweeters like this:

    How many city blocks did the Michigan protesters burn to the ground?

    How many TV’s did they loot from local businesses?

  411. @Truth
    @Reg Cæsar


    Wow. Frey makes Justin Trudeau seem like a tough guy.

    Never mind his dad:
     
    Brah, you got that right...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP31yJ6mAwE

    Replies: @Alden, @Reg Cæsar, @Cortes

    Justin looks eerily like a nun I know.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Cortes

    Looks like none I know.

  412. @Anonymous
    As far as I know, Minneapolis is just about the coldest damn spot in the contiguous USA. Painfully and ridiculously cold in mid winter.
    As a native of London, England, where it hardly ever gets seriously cold in winter, but, nevertheless a hard English winter is tough and demoralising enough - I know enough about cold weather that when, given the choice, I would rather avoid it - I simply cannot understand why most of the world's tropically adapted people seem to be making a beeline for Minneapolis.

    The unkind might say "it's just because of the gibs".

    Replies: @Stealth, @Joe Stalin, @Redman, @Anonymous

    Yep. Cold as fuck there.

    I was in Rochester, MN 25 years ago and it was 40 below zero Fahrenheit. Not sure what that is in Celsius. But it’s so cold you can’t have any skin exposed or it becomes frostbit.

    I live in NY where it sometimes (rarely) gets to zero. And that sucks. No idea how anyone can live in MN.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Redman


    I was in Rochester, MN 25 years ago and it was 40 below zero Fahrenheit. Not sure what that is in Celsius. But it’s so cold you can’t have any skin exposed or it becomes frostbit.

     

    20 below in January isn't the problem. It's 2o above in April. That's what gets to you.

    But it's white men's weather. I once saw a couple of North Dakotans meet on an Amtrak train. They celebrated. One crowed, "Why not Minot? Forty below keeps the riff-raff out!"

    Usually. But not when the price of oil is peaking.


    it was 40 below zero Fahrenheit. Not sure what that is in Celsius.
     
    That's where the two scales intersect.

    https://www.thoughtco.com/thmb/H_G30otLYX-Q9ch8ZXO8QnZ6by4=/1333x1000/smart/filters:no_upscale()/fahrenheit-celsius-equivalents-609236-sketch4-aa1f33a4c9bf49a5ba4baac98dbe98a2.png

    , @James B. Shearer
    @Redman

    "I was in Rochester, MN 25 years ago and it was 40 below zero Fahrenheit. Not sure what that is in Celsius. ..."

    Also -40 strangely enough.

    , @Dtbb
    @Redman

    F and C are equal at -40.

    , @Anon
    @Redman

    Minus 40 in MN? Yes, that's cold, but I've experienced minus 60 in Gunnison, CO and minus 50 near Laramie, WY! Add 80 mph winter storm winds to the mix in WY; it's brutal -- even when properly covered!

    In mid December 2016 I was driving from Central CO to eastern KS via I 70 and got caught in a bad winter storm in the eastern plains of CO. I had to deploy my emergency bivy. It was a rough morning upon waking up to minus 37. It took six hours until I regained feeling in my feet. But damn, the plains were beautiful that morning as they were blanketed with snow and the sky was crystal clear.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jim Don Bob

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Redman


    I was in Rochester, MN 25 years ago and it was 40 below zero Fahrenheit.
     
    40 below Fahrenheit is -27 hectares Celsius.

    I think.
  413. @Anonymous
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Right now, with the exception of France and Sweden (and possibly Belgium), still the US. Long-term (for whatever it's even worth differentiating between degrees of hell on Earth), probably Western Europe. Hard to imagine a more brainwashed and vulnerable native population, and even harder to imagine a more dangerous and parasitic kind of immigration than the one Western Europe is subjected to.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    vulnerable native population

    That’s a key point. Not only is policing far less strict in Europe, but a lot of ethno-nationalist militia groups (BNP, EDL, etc) have literally have been disarmed or even jailed.

    At least our population is protected by the “thin blue line.” Though we have to deal with certain police excesses, from time to time.

    more dangerous and parasitic kind of immigration

    True. I also think that Euro Muslims seem to regard native White Euros in a much more predatory way than even American Blacks.

  414. @Boethiuss
    @Anonymous


    I’m going to go out on a limb here and posit the Historic Deadly Cuomovirus spiel may not fulfill its destiny as the universal miracle Santa Claus issue this year. Not many elected Democrats have demonstrated a pronounced degree of control over it (as distinct from a hopeless thespian tendency for decrying it, that’s been common).
     
    No. The Democrats maybe haven't solved coronavirus or even performed appreciably better than any other political affiliation, but the one thing they haven't done is derped the issue like Trump has. It's the derp that kills. And as big as the impact has been, no one will ever forget it.

    Anyway, when your party’s agenda is based on running up the score among the bureaucrat/New Class and ethnic mafia populations in a couple dozen cities it doesn’t accrue to the generic brand goodwill in swing states Hillary almost won yet seemed to consider morally suspect somehow
     
    That's right. The Democratic Party in 2020 has lots of strategic and tactical weaknesses that we can't exploit because Trump.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    You were full of reasons why Trump could lose in 2016, you are exactly the same now.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @YetAnotherAnon


    You were full of reasons why Trump could lose in 2016, you are exactly the same now.
     
    Well, obviously in 2016 I was wrong on that point.
  415. @Boethiuss
    iSteve commenters tend to misunderstand the impact of things like this, especially in its racial terms because that's where we all tend to believe that we're all race experts, that we're the ones who see the negative social impact of the vibrants when everybody else is out trying sell some feelgood bullshit. We know everything already there's no point in listening to everybody else.

    Blacks behaving badly does tend to motivate voters to vote Republican. But that's one, among all the things that a voter might consider. And right now, undocumented shopping by vibrants in Minneapolis doesn't stack up very high compared against a pandemic that threatens everybody's health and everybody's livelihood.

    When push comes to shove, Trump and the Trump campaign might be very effective in convincing American that Joe is sleepy and stupid. But it's not going to help, the voters will vote for him anyway. (If in fact the Presidential race comes down to Trump vs. Biden, and there's some chance that it won't imo).

    Replies: @Anonymous, @epebble, @sayless, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Anonymous, @jack daniels

    Both Biden and Bloomberg said some admirably frank things about minority crime in the past but had to reverse all those positions when running for Pres.

  416. @JohnnyWalker123
    @J.Ross

    You make some good points. Western Europe has higher population density and less space, so it's harder to flee dysfunction. Also, Western Euro countries are much more lightly policed, so a large fraction of the worst people are unjailed and therefore are proudly unruly.

    As bad as it can get in America, you don't really hear about stuff like Rotherham or Cologne.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    As bad as it can get in America, you don’t really hear about stuff like Rotherham or Cologne.

    You don’t hear about it, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

    When I worked for the department of Juvenile Justice some years ago we had 40 poor girls in a residential facility with ages ranging from 12 to 17, and every one of them had been involved in prostitution with large numbers of partners–nearly always with drugs as part of the incentive scheme. Our OB/Gyn bills were astronomical. All of them were being pimped by older men, and on release or when they turned 18, they often went right back to their pimps. This from the state where Epstein lived.

  417. @botazefa
    @indocon


    Trump needs to stay back and let this burn for a few more days, then send in the full deployment of US Army, arrest all these white punks and send them to federal jails in the south
     
    The US Army is not the continental Presidential police force, is it?

    I don't think it is legal to deploy the Army the way you are describing. National Guard yes, Army no. Feds can invade States.

    Am I wrong, indocon?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @huisache, @Stunned Billionaire

    Also, the Detroit riots in 1967 when President Lyndon Johnson used the Insurrection Act to send in the United States Army’s 82nd and 101st Airborne Divisions.

    Wikipedia;

    “Shortly before midnight on Monday, July 24, President Johnson authorized the use of federal troops in compliance with the Insurrection Act of 1807, which authorizes the President to call in armed forces to fight an insurrection in any state against the government. This gave Detroit the distinction of being the only domestic American city to have been occupied by federal troops three times…

    … Starting at 1:30 on Tuesday, July 25, some 8,000 Michigan Army National Guardsmen were deployed to quell the disorder. Later, their number would be augmented with 4,700 paratroopers from both the 82nd and 101st Airborne Divisions, and 360 Michigan State Police officers.”

    • Thanks: botazefa
    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Stunned Billionaire

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg0dFgn8gyI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKuHr1Mb_H4

  418. @Clifford Brown
    So the cop and George Floyd were both bouncers at El Nuevo Rodeo, a trashy Mexican nightclub in Minneapolis?

    I don't know, man.

    https://youtu.be/35hGgkJ7y8g

    Replies: @Alden, @George, @jack daniels

    I don’t know man; the club looks clean and its customers look like happy people dancing. Where’s the trashiness?

  419. @22pp22
    @Anonymous

    The DNC's election platform is obviously and openly inspired by hatred of traditional America as 'redneck' and 'racist.' Even if they don't win, it is still a platform that millions of Americans are happy to vote for. In most countries, screaming hatred of your own country's identity and history is a quick way to lose an election. That is, amazingly, still true in the UK. Jeremy Corbyn tried DNC-style tactics and was wiped out.

    Do you remember the Brett Kavanaugh fiasco? The mask came off people like Nancy Pelosi, Maisey Hirono and Kamala Harris. They are motivated by an incandescent hatred of their own nation. How can you miss it? Redemption for its past sins involves the complete elimination of its founding-stock population and their replacement with better people from successful and tolerant societies like Mexico and the Congo.

    Tim Wise has made a fortune abusing whites on US campuses. There is no pushback. Jordan Petersen turns up and there is a riot. I used to be an academic and academia is the only part of America that I really know on a personal and intimate level. At after-conference dinner parties, I was the only person with anything positive to say about the place - and I was often the only non-American there.

    The worst thing about the US is the very obvious drug epidemic and yet it receives no coverage. Dealing with it should be priority number one. It isn't because your own elites want you to die.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “In most countries, screaming hatred of your own country’s identity and history is a quick way to lose an election. That is, amazingly, still true in the UK. Jeremy Corbyn tried DNC-style tactics and was wiped out.”

    But while the Brexit voters in the Northern “Red Wall” voted against him on that ground, most of the damage was done by an organised and well funded campaign around non-existent “anti-semitism” due to his relatively neutral policies vis a vis Israel/Palestine.

    During the election campaign very few if any prominent voices were reminding the voters about his IRA fellow-travelling.

    • Replies: @22pp22
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I have not lived in the UK for fifteen years. I did vote in the 2017 election, but have now let my registration slip. The anti-semitism slur got a lot of coverage, but I don't get the impression that was what hurt him. Labour is highly dependent on the Muslim vote and so Labour leaders making mildly anti-semitic comments is nothing new. It never stopped Ken Livingstone becoming Mayor of London. The Labour vote held up among the PC luvvies and in the heavily immigrant areas in London and the Midlands. They care about 'racism' and 'anti-semitism.'

    Corbyn was crushed in largely white areas of the North where tribal loyalties to the Labour Party are almost religious in intensity. I was amazed at some the seats Labour lost. I thought the people there would sacrifice their first-born rather than vote Tory. Most of those people have never met a Jew and don't give them a second thought. They would not like pro-IRA comments.

    The media in the UK are disliked and distrusted as much as they are in the US.

    Replies: @fatmanscoop, @YetAnotherAnon, @Jonathan Mason

    , @martin_2
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The establishment media did go on about "anti-semitism" in the Labour Party, which was rather odd since it was never going to be an issue with ordinary voters who have no opinion on Israel one way or the other, or at least no opinion strong enough to determine how they would vote. The media seemed to want to convince us that his support for Hamas (whatever that is) was more important to voters than his support for the IRA. But for the older generations of working class voters that support was fatal.

  420. @anon
    The regressive left, after sparking a riot with their racist media coverage (WHITE kills BLACK headlines), has now reverted back to the prehistory concept of offering ritual sacrifice to appease the angry gods:

    Good citizens burning down the evil police precinct in MN after all police were out & safe. All police should go home. No violence please. Police HQ must be demolished by the city tomorrow as a show of contrition to black America. Rebuild PD with decent kind ppl aka ppl of color

    — Michael Moore (@MMFlint) May 29, 2020

     

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @HammerJack, @AnotherDad

    Good citizens burning down the evil police precinct in MN after all police were out & safe. All police should go home. No violence please. Police HQ must be demolished by the city tomorrow as a show of contrition to black America. Rebuild PD with decent kind ppl aka ppl of color

    — Michael Moore (@MMFlint) May 29, 2020

    As an act of contrition for white America’s sins, we offer up Michael Moore for a big black BBQ.

    (Black folks note: i realize this is a crappy piece of meat, you’re getting, so it will require long slow cooking to be palatable. But … you’ve got guys who can do that, and do it well.)

    • Replies: @anon
    @AnotherDad


    As an act of contrition for white America’s sins, i offer up Michael Moore for a black BBQ.
     
    The Chinese just banned a conspiracy website claiming Americans are cannibals. Don't make them regret their decision.

    CNN Host Reza Aslan Eats Human Brains While Profiling Hindu Aghori Cannibals


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3feCtT61Cc
  421. anon[410] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tsar Nicholas
    @Nicholas Stix

    There’s no point paying for police in Minneapolis, if they aren’t permitted to do their jobs.

    Murdering a man who did not resist arrest is part of a police officer's duties?

    Replies: @anon, @jack daniels

    Murdering a man who did not resist arrest is part of a police officer’s duties?

    Black thugs lie soooo much. Watch any police interrogation and you’ll notice just how much — about every little detail, forcing the police to shake the truth out of them. They’ll say they don’t know anything, wasn’t there, don’t know how it got there, etc. Remember hands up? That happens all the time. I think it’s possible the cop just assumed this was yet another lie. When you hear enough of them, you start to tune them out. If blacks didn’t commit so much crime, the cop wouldn’t have become so jaded that he ignored the guy’s pleas.

  422. anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buffalo Joe
    @anon

    755, Thanks for the Michael Moore tweet. If all this racial animosity could be ended by one white throwing himself into a volcano do you think Moore would offer himself up?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    Caesar is right, Mr. Joe. I once passed by Moore on the sidewalk in Manhattan. He is one fat bastard, so weighty that he walks pigeon-toed.
    His expression was that “Oh crap, he recognized me” look that you get a lot when you meet up with a famous person who is out and about.

  423. @JimB
    @res


    It is interesting how focused they seem to be on keeping Klobuchar out of the VP slot. Is anyone else getting near the number of negative articles she is? Why?
     
    She's a busty MILF with a Karen haircut? Frankly, I'm betting that Biden will choose her because she turns him on. He doesn't want to spend four years in the White House (and perhaps his last four years on earth) having to look at Stacy Abrams or Elizabeth Warren. It would be better to lose the election.

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    “He doesn’t want to spend four years in the White House (and perhaps his last four years on earth) having to look at Stacy Abrams or Elizabeth Warren.”

    Nah, creepy sleepy uncle joe likes ’em young and prepubescent, viz a dozen youtube vidjas. Kloblowchar is waaay too adult for creepy joe.

  424. @anon
    @22pp22


    I know white Americans are proud of what their ancestors built. If I were a white American, I would be proud, too. I hate to say this, but your country is no longer viable. You hate each other too much. America will have to split into smaller units that are cohesive and put the interests of their own citizens first.
     
    Totally agree. Hopefully, this creates the conversation that needs to be had. I want nothing more than to live in a country with my own people and be ruled by those like myself, people who will establish laws and customs that comport with my tribe's sentiment. For the life of me I can't understand why this doesn't get more traction on the right. Is this not the obvious solution? We clearly aren't voting our way out of this because we don't have the votes anymore; half of our people are brainwashed to hate us and themselves; demographically, the situation worsens as our people die and mass immigration continues unabated (don't kid yourself, they'll never stop it). And we clearly aren't ever going to attract substantially more non-white votes, even with a progressive economic platform; see Bernie Sanders vs. Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden among black voters in South Carolina if you disagree. To say otherwise is to promote a pipe dream.

    Racial disparities are intractable and can only be ameliorated by taking ever more wealth and opportunities from whites. In order to sate the mob, we've discriminated against our own kind: we've promoted sundry conspiracy theories like "institutional bias" and "stereotype threat" to gloss over minority failures; we suffer endless two minutes of hate every election cycle now*; we pay blacks hundreds of billions of dollars in welfare and affirmative action per year; we've discriminated against our own kind in college admissions to admit lower-scoring blacks; we let them have television networks, movies, magazines, colleges, and graduation ceremonies all to their own while we can't even avoid having our pre-established, historical characters stolen and race swapped (black King Arthur / black Achilles) .... the list is endless.

    The results have been disastrous: a skyrocketing suicide rate, hopelessness and despair, the rise of fringe cults like Qanon. How long can this go on as this country diversifies by the day? Have you guys not studied what happened to the whites of Zimbabwe and South Africa? ... or Haiti? Hated racial minorities / market majorities have poor track records over the long term. That's the destiny your children face.

    I think many boomer conservatives have been brainwashed by decades of programing into a dogma of DR3 that won't allow them to process contrary facts. A lot of Millennials, on the other hand, have been indoctrinated by edgy YouTubers and paid gatekeepers like Ben Shapiro to waste their time barking at safe issues such as "muh communism" (a long dead philosophy even the Chinese have abandoned -- thus their national anthem law and nationalism 101 university courses). Result: nothing gets done.

    We may also have to face the possibility that there is no solution within the current system. Maybe whites just aren't smart, selfless, or cohesive enough to fight back. In that case, whites (especially men) should be seeking opportunities to abandon ship before it goes down. Maybe we could go back to Europe or seek employment in Asia or move to a third country that, while liberal, isn't a complete dystopian nightmare -- Australia, New Zealand, Canada?

    This is an issue that more on the right should be talking about instead of avoiding or dismissing with hollow arguments. Coulter, Brimelow, Sailer, Buchanan and others should give this topic serious examination. Everyone needs a backup plan. What's yours? Are they really going to sit around and do nothing until the day (coming soon) when there is a knock on the door and a loud command to come out with their hands up in the air? Or maybe they would rather just complain on the internet because they are older and would like to die in peace.

    A fitting end. Rome gave up that way, too.

    Weren't most of the Revolutionary War figures older people? Both George Washington and Benjamin Franklin died before the year 1800. It's sort of strange how this turned out. The country was founded by old guys and now that same demographic is content to let it burn because it's to much of a hassle to do anything about it.

    *Central Park Karen was accosted by a black man for not having her dog on a leash but remember Barbecue Becky when she accosted blacks for some park ordinance she was actually right about? What's the difference? Difference: we are discriminated against and attacked regardless of what we do.

    #endthehateseparate or #coup&backtoafrica ... or #pleasekindsirsomemore

    Take your pick. Is grilling season really that important?

    Replies: @22pp22

    New Zealand and Australia are on the same path as the US. The only difference is that the US is further along the road to perdition.

    The big issue over here is China. Americans are used to being the top-dog super-power, and it makes them feel invulnerable. America is not perfect, but it’s the least dreadful top-dog superpower the rest of the world can hope for.

    Australia and New Zealand are not super-powers and we don’t feel invulnerable. As America retreats and China advances, we will either surrender completely or fight back. It could go either way.

    I groan with despair when I hear people talk about China as peaceful. I have a PhD in Asian history and China’s history is as blood-drenched as anyone else’s – of not more so. When America was fighting the civil war, millions upon millions of Chinese were dying in the Taiping Rebellion (maybe as many as fifty million). Liberal, well-educated Westerners have never even heard of it. Most of my students had never even heard of the Cultural Revolution, but they knew all about Jim Crow.

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    @22pp22

    I groan with despair when I hear people talk about China as peaceful. I have a PhD in Asian history and China’s history is as blood-drenched as anyone else’s

    Yeah, but historically China has kept her blood-drenching to herself, that makes all the difference. Other than border dustups with Vietnam or bullying over uninhabited islets in the South China Sea I don't anticipate China ever sending expeditionary forces overseas to install sino-friendly governments. It doesn't seem to be in their nature to do so.

    Replies: @wren, @Anonymous, @22pp22

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @22pp22

    China’s history is as blood-drenched as anyone else’s – of not more so.

    I read a book recommended by a commenter at this site, The Great Big Book Of Horrible Things, by Matthew White (2011). Stupid title, but a very well researched and written book about the greatest atrocities in history. Some of the largest occurred in China and I have to admit I'd never heard of most of them.

  425. @Gary in Gramercy
    "Klobuchar is the reasonable safe choice for Biden -- stuck with his stupid promise to run with a gyno-American."

    Like AD, I thought Biden's pledge was asinine. Why cut yourself off from potentially presidential running mates like U.S. Senator Sherrod Brown, who is extremely liberal but manages to win statewide elections in Ohio? But Biden and his campaign knew something the rest of us didn't: the Tara Reade story was about to break, at least in fringe outlets like The Intercept and Vox. Eventually, it would find its way into the MSM, if only by indirection ("Why Are The New York Times and The Washington Post Ignoring The Tara Reade Allegations?").

    Having Biden promise to name a woman as his running mate did two things at once: (1) it got out in front of the Reade story, and made a positive impression on women voters (and, perhaps of equal value, women journalists) before most people had ever heard Tara Reade's name; (2) it froze the female politicians who would otherwise have been clamoring for Biden to withdraw from the race (remember Al Franken?), and turned them into some of Joe's most fervent defenders.

    Far from being a stupid promise, Biden's pledge has been a shrewd maneuver worthy of Machiavelli. Whomever in the Biden campaign came up with the idea is earning his or her keep, and then some. (Biden himself could not have thought of this on his own, but his eyes must have lit up when he realized it was a way to get Liz Warren and Kamala Harris to shut up and pay him some respect.)

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Jonathan Mason

    …it froze the female politicians who would otherwise have been clamoring for Biden to withdraw from the race

    It neutered them. It turned them into pussy cats.

    Ernst Stavro Bidenfeld.

    https://www.thenational.ae/image/policy:1.168790:1499298692/image/jpeg.

  426. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Almost Missouri


    Abandoning police stations to rioters seems like a terrible decision.

     

    Exactly.

    Last year the HK protests, which initially were mostly peaceful and had widespread support, turned into riots in one fateful night, i.e. July 1st, when organized, antifa-style thugs broke into the HK Legislative Council building, and trashed the very chamber in which Legco deliberates.

    Hundreds of rioters were wandering around inside the building for hours, smashing the hell out of everything, right on live TV. The cops could have sealed off the doors and hauled in the whole lot, but they were called off.

    It was the equivalent of the Capitol Building in Washington DC being overrun and vandalized, and then there being no consequences whatever for nearly all of those involved.

    This pusillanimous signal opened the door to eight months of relentless rioting and destruction, which was cooled off only by the outbreak of COVID-19.

    The moral of the story: sometimes rioting doesn't just 'burn out' on its own. The MSP police are sending a terrible signal tonight; let's hope the bill to be paid for it isn't too steep.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jonathan Mason, @Anonymous, @Thea, @Chrisnonymous, @notsaying, @anon, @Stebbing Heuer

    Hundreds of rioters were wandering around inside the building for hours, smashing the hell out of everything, right on live TV. The cops could have sealed off the doors and hauled in the whole lot, but they were called off.

    Oh wow. I can’t imagine why.

    You’re not cynical enough.

  427. How does this work in a free and open, non-banana republic society? The medical examiner finds no evidence of strangulation or asphyxiation, but the cop who had the suspect in a “choke hold” is charged with murder anyway?

    https://www.mystateline.com/news/national/minnesota-police-officer-who-knelt-on-george-floyd-has-been-arrested/

    https://www.mystateline.com/news/national/medical-examiner-no-evidence-george-floyd-died-of-strangulation/

  428. @JimB
    @notsaying


    Not deliberate? How was it not deliberate?
     
    Like, why would a cop deliberately kill a man in front of somebody holding a camera? And why would he take 8 minutes to do it? This cop was obviously on some kind of power trip, but based on his personal arrest experience, he probably thought the 250 lbs bar bouncer was faking it. In his position, many officers might have thought the same thing, which explains why his three backup officers did nothing. Obviously the perp had an underlying health condition. And you forgot to ask Anonymous why he thought any riots were justified, given that they destroy your own community. But why should this fuck up be singled out for blowing up America? Here's an equally enraging incident that happened not too long ago in Sonoma Cty, CA. Cops forgot to take a recovered vehicle off the hot sheet and violently arrested the owner, who had asthma. They suffocated him in a choke hold. But since everyone was white in this incident, it all fucking went down the memory hole. The killer cop got fired but not prosecuted. By the way, the reason we have paramilitary cops in the first place are the obscene levels of violent criminality in black communities.

    https://youtu.be/s0yuoYS-nqE

    Replies: @travis, @V. Hickel, @Ben tillman, @John Johnson

    he also did 5 years for a home invasion and was probably still on parole. he deserves death for the home invasion robbery alone. there is no loss.

  429. @Tsar Nicholas
    @Nicholas Stix

    There’s no point paying for police in Minneapolis, if they aren’t permitted to do their jobs.

    Murdering a man who did not resist arrest is part of a police officer's duties?

    Replies: @anon, @jack daniels

    Well apparently he did resist violently. That’s why they won’t show the redacted video portion IMO. But I agree that he was no longer dangerous and the cop’s action certainly looks like murder. I would like to think that if I were at the scene I would have intervened more forcefully than the passersby who complained to the cops.

    I don’t know how murder laws take into account provocations.

    • Replies: @Tsar Nicholas
    @jack daniels


    But I agree that he was no longer dangerous and the cop’s action certainly looks like murder.
     
    Hopefully, he'll get a fair trial. The context for this killing is, of course, that American police kill a lot of citizens every year. The problem is obscured to some extent by focusing on black lives. I think they are killed in greater proportion but there are plenty of other ethnicities, and there are lots of stories about police being called to aid somebody with a medical or a mental problem, and then that somebody ending up dead.

    1200 deaths by cop every year is not good. In Germany, the annual figure is usually near zero. Britain too.

    I am no expert and I'm not American, but in English law I think the officer would have a hard time pleading provocation in an action which looks deliberate and cold blooded.

    But be of good cheer. One collateral casualty of this event is Biden's proposed VP, Amy Klobuchar. She had the opportunity to prosecute this officer for the killing of a civilian over a decade ago and passed on the opportunity.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    , @Anonymous
    @jack daniels


    Well apparently he did resist violently. That’s why they won’t show the redacted video portion IMO. But I agree that he was no longer dangerous and the cop’s action certainly looks like murder.
     
    Hard to make out murder when the accused didn’t intend to kill the suspect or cause him serious injury.

    Also hard to make out murder against Chauvin when the coroner finds no asphyxiation or neck trauma.
  430. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @nokangaroos
    @Anonymous

    Nah ... there has to be a more professional (read: idiot-proof) way of subduing large mentally disturbed Obama voters on steroids and PCP; being all dopers with high blood pressure they are susceptible to vagus shocks if you look at them sideways (of course only an utter crétin goes on a rampage in that condition and then resists - but I repeat myself ).

    Once upon a time tasers were the Great White Hope but only further worked into police lazyness and lack of CQ skills - and they are STILL not groid safe.

    Some kind of slime gun, maybe? :D

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Some kind of slime gun, maybe?

    I was thinking more along the lines of an instant Cyanocrylate that either bonds people to the floor…or glues their legs together so they simply topple over.

    (Anyone else remember the “tangler” round in the DS guns in Logan’s Run?)

  431. @JimB
    @notsaying


    Not deliberate? How was it not deliberate?
     
    Like, why would a cop deliberately kill a man in front of somebody holding a camera? And why would he take 8 minutes to do it? This cop was obviously on some kind of power trip, but based on his personal arrest experience, he probably thought the 250 lbs bar bouncer was faking it. In his position, many officers might have thought the same thing, which explains why his three backup officers did nothing. Obviously the perp had an underlying health condition. And you forgot to ask Anonymous why he thought any riots were justified, given that they destroy your own community. But why should this fuck up be singled out for blowing up America? Here's an equally enraging incident that happened not too long ago in Sonoma Cty, CA. Cops forgot to take a recovered vehicle off the hot sheet and violently arrested the owner, who had asthma. They suffocated him in a choke hold. But since everyone was white in this incident, it all fucking went down the memory hole. The killer cop got fired but not prosecuted. By the way, the reason we have paramilitary cops in the first place are the obscene levels of violent criminality in black communities.

    https://youtu.be/s0yuoYS-nqE

    Replies: @travis, @V. Hickel, @Ben tillman, @John Johnson

    Great comment. I could not agree more.

  432. @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad



    … a white lady VP will kill black turnout as well.
    They don’t want to be lectured by a white lady for 4 years.
     
    Does anyone?
     
    Who would you rather be lectured by?

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Who would you rather be lectured by?

    I don’t want to be lectured by anyone. And certainly not some politician.

    A leaders’ job is to lead. Sometimes that means explaining/convincing the people why its best to charge over that hill.

    But no one loves getting a lecture. And many female politicians think some combination of schoolmarmish finger wagging, in between bouts of woe is us emoting about this or that–both classic female styles–are “leadership”. They are not.

    BTW, while these are feminine characteristics, this applies to men as well. Jimmy Carter turned out to be prone to a sort of schoolmarmish hectoring and Americans got sick of it quickly and voted him out. (I voted for him in ’76 and by late ’77 was sick of the guy. When he gave his “malaise” speech, my reaction was … “I know how we can fix that!”)

  433. Anon[392] • Disclaimer says:

    George Floyd would not voluntarily get in the police car. He claimed to be clausterphobic. He had just exited another car, so the police knew he was lying.

    If George Floyd had voluntarily gotten into that police car, he would be alive.

    Minneapolis should be given no money to rebuild. They should have gassed, rubber bulletted, and then finally shot all looters.

    • Agree: Alden
  434. @Anonymous
    @Almost Missouri

    When things are looking really desperate, Americans always blame “the limeys” for their problems as a last ditch attempt to direct the blame away from their own country for the huge racial problems there.

    I see this so often, Americans blame "the Brits" for slavery, for killing the Native Americans, for just about every unsavoury aspect of their history. It's a mystery to me why British people think the Americans are their allies

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Almost Missouri, @Ron Mexico, @AnotherDad, @fatmanscoop, @Joe Stalin

    When things are looking really desperate, Americans always blame “the limeys” for their problems as a last ditch attempt to direct the blame away from their own country for the huge racial problems there.

    Absolute nonsense

  435. A few kids in San Jose are getting in on the action:

    29055DD6-1507-46A8-8ED6-F8D01B257A67

    Story Road and Hwy 101

    From close ups it appears to be white(ish) kids looking for something to add to their university applications.

    Perhaps others will find their cause once looting gets underway.

  436. anon[333] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    @anon

    Good citizens burning down the evil police precinct in MN after all police were out & safe. All police should go home. No violence please. Police HQ must be demolished by the city tomorrow as a show of contrition to black America. Rebuild PD with decent kind ppl aka ppl of color

    — Michael Moore (@MMFlint) May 29, 2020

     

    As an act of contrition for white America's sins, we offer up Michael Moore for a big black BBQ.

    (Black folks note: i realize this is a crappy piece of meat, you're getting, so it will require long slow cooking to be palatable. But ... you've got guys who can do that, and do it well.)

    Replies: @anon

    As an act of contrition for white America’s sins, i offer up Michael Moore for a black BBQ.

    The Chinese just banned a conspiracy website claiming Americans are cannibals. Don’t make them regret their decision.

    CNN Host Reza Aslan Eats Human Brains While Profiling Hindu Aghori Cannibals

  437. @Whiskey
    The issue is the nature of the threat and how Whites react and how Blacks turn out.

    Mostly random snipers plus a few riots in Southern states leads swing White voters in the Rust Belt to see themselves shot dead since there is demand by the snipers. No elect this Dem snipers stop shooting.

    By contrast large scale Northern or Western riots means demands and massive Black turnout. Plus displays of dominance work on White Women who go with whoever swaggers most in the street in front of cameras.

    Whites don't fight. We are not capable of it, and have not been for more than a hundred years. Abject surrender is always the case when confronted by non Whites particularly Africans.

    Look at Twitter. They are likely to ban Trump. While allowing Ice Cube to call for killing White people. Already White actresses are calling for race War and of course siding with Blacks.

    Suppose this rolls into suburbs and people are burned out or burned alive? Trump is removed by the FBI and they just install Stacey Abrams. With it being legal for Blacks to rob and kill Whites and illegal for Whites to defend themselves.

    The Purge movies awoke something deep in Blacks and the elites. Both want their mortal enemies destroyed and see this time now with most of the middle and working class broke and unemployed as a final solution.

    Replies: @TorontoTraveller, @Anon

    Whiskey – your comment profile includes a website, but the latest post on it was March 2016. Are you posting elsewhere?

  438. @Redman
    @Anonymous

    Yep. Cold as fuck there.

    I was in Rochester, MN 25 years ago and it was 40 below zero Fahrenheit. Not sure what that is in Celsius. But it’s so cold you can’t have any skin exposed or it becomes frostbit.

    I live in NY where it sometimes (rarely) gets to zero. And that sucks. No idea how anyone can live in MN.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @James B. Shearer, @Dtbb, @Anon, @Jim Don Bob

    I was in Rochester, MN 25 years ago and it was 40 below zero Fahrenheit. Not sure what that is in Celsius. But it’s so cold you can’t have any skin exposed or it becomes frostbit.

    20 below in January isn’t the problem. It’s 2o above in April. That’s what gets to you.

    But it’s white men’s weather. I once saw a couple of North Dakotans meet on an Amtrak train. They celebrated. One crowed, “Why not Minot? Forty below keeps the riff-raff out!”

    Usually. But not when the price of oil is peaking.

    it was 40 below zero Fahrenheit. Not sure what that is in Celsius.

    That’s where the two scales intersect.

  439. @Anonymous
    America is done for, the blacks and hispanics are much more tough and aggressive than white Americans and not even having guns will help them as black Americans and hispanics are just as heavily armed if not more so.

    They are going to burn your country, your civilisation to the ground and unfortunately I fear there's not a thing you can do about it.

    Replies: @bomag

    …more tough and aggressive than white Americans

    Depends. If you want to climb a mountain; explore the arctic; or fly into space, don’t bet on the duskier races.

    Street crime is a rather narrow specialty, with the practitioners coming; hat in hand; to Whites/Asians, willing to trade votes/economic position for running water and electricity.

  440. @anonn
    @22pp22

    Leftist Californian here: you're right, it's time to break up the USA. I don't want to be in a country with you any more than you want to be in a country with me. Once we stop having to subsidize the red states, stop paying a trillion dollars a year for history's biggest and most worthless military, and stop paying Israel, I'm confident we can build a just and prosperous social democracy.

    Even if I'm wrong and you all are right, and we turn into Brazil, fine.

    Every polity in history comes to an end. This isn't going to get better. Who, besides Israel and defense contractors, is this working for anymore?

    Replies: @True DFL Liberal, @22pp22

    Leftist Californian here: you’re right, it’s time to break up the USA. I don’t want to be in a country with you any more than you want to be in a country with me.

    Dude, you’re there already…22pp22 is in New Zealand…lol.

  441. @jb
    @Boethiuss

    Agreed. I voted for Trump and intend to vote for him again, but at this point I think he has been a disaster, because: 1) he has mostly failed to come through on the promises that got him elected; and 2) he has hopelessly alienated many voters (including some lukewarm liberals) who are not unsympathetic to our side on the issues and could have been won over.

    2) is worse. Most people don't join parties based on a careful analysis of the issues; they join a team based on its brand and how it makes them feel, and once they solidly identify with a team it's hard to make them switch. Trump's hideous personal issues have provoked an undetermined but probably substantial number of fence-sitters into committing to the Democrats, and I think this is going to cost the Republicans dearly, not only in this election but many to come.

    At this point, hard as it is to say, I think it probably would have been better if Hillary had won in 2016. Her policies would have been terrible, but they would have been largely blocked by a Republican Congress. And instead of Trump poisoning the Republican brand it would have been Hillary poisoning the Democrats, setting them up for a fall in 2020. The Republican candidate might have been the usual Conservationism Inc. droid, but there is at least a chance that the example of Trump's winning the nomination in 2016 might have inspired a populist revolt, and we'd end up with someone decent. Not the best scenario admittedly (the best would have been Trump turning out to have a brain!), but probably better than what we are looking at now. I'm really hoping I'm wrong, but I'm terrified that the Democrats are not only going to win the Presidency but control of both houses of Congress in November, and then the floodgates will open!

    Replies: @Daniel H

    And instead of Trump poisoning the Republican brand …….

    This is a signal achievement of Trump’s. If he can destroy the Republican party then all his BS will have been worth it. There is no way forward until the Republican party is destroyed and a new coalition forms to represent the true interests of the American people.

    • Replies: @jb
    @Daniel H

    Sorry, I think this is totally wrong. Where is this "new coalition" of which you speak? It does not exist today, there is nothing on the horizon, and hoping that it will materialize out of the air once the Republican Party has been destroyed is desperate wishful thinking. (And why would you think that a new party would represent us?)

    The only way forward is, and has always been, co-opting the Republican Party. The issues Trump kinda sorta ran on -- jobs, immigration, & foreign involvement -- were powerful enough to do that, and in fact Trump to a degree has actually done it. It's just that taking over a party while at the same time destroying it is a bad plan. Such a bad plan!

    Replies: @Boethiuss

  442. @22pp22
    @anon

    New Zealand and Australia are on the same path as the US. The only difference is that the US is further along the road to perdition.

    The big issue over here is China. Americans are used to being the top-dog super-power, and it makes them feel invulnerable. America is not perfect, but it's the least dreadful top-dog superpower the rest of the world can hope for.

    Australia and New Zealand are not super-powers and we don't feel invulnerable. As America retreats and China advances, we will either surrender completely or fight back. It could go either way.

    I groan with despair when I hear people talk about China as peaceful. I have a PhD in Asian history and China's history is as blood-drenched as anyone else's - of not more so. When America was fighting the civil war, millions upon millions of Chinese were dying in the Taiping Rebellion (maybe as many as fifty million). Liberal, well-educated Westerners have never even heard of it. Most of my students had never even heard of the Cultural Revolution, but they knew all about Jim Crow.

    Replies: @Daniel H, @Harry Baldwin

    I groan with despair when I hear people talk about China as peaceful. I have a PhD in Asian history and China’s history is as blood-drenched as anyone else’s

    Yeah, but historically China has kept her blood-drenching to herself, that makes all the difference. Other than border dustups with Vietnam or bullying over uninhabited islets in the South China Sea I don’t anticipate China ever sending expeditionary forces overseas to install sino-friendly governments. It doesn’t seem to be in their nature to do so.

    • Replies: @wren
    @Daniel H

    It is sure looking like Tibet, East Turkestan, all the "nine dash line" islands, and Hong Kong are warm ups for Taiwan and beyond.

    They have started building military bases in Africa for what I assume are nine other than military reasons.

    , @Anonymous
    @Daniel H


    Other than border dustups with Vietnam or bullying over uninhabited islets in the South China Sea I don’t anticipate China ever sending expeditionary forces overseas to install sino-friendly governments. It doesn’t seem to be in their nature to do so.
     
    Absence of noise is not necessarily absence of activity; the problem with the Americans is that they lack subtlety.

    What the Americans try to do with big, noisy guns, the Chinese do quietly (and much more successfully) with their chequebooks.

    View the doco Empire of Dust to see what the Chinese get up to overseas (or have a word with the Pakistanis).
    , @22pp22
    @Daniel H

    Chinese people are used to being by far and away the world's largest ethnic group. No one is going to swallow China. They can swallow us without trying. It behooves us to be extremely wary of a country which has twenty cities that are bigger than my whole country. The only Chinese I want to cosy up to are the Taiwanese (population 23 million). The CCP is working hard to create a homogeneous, cohesive superstate and one of the ways it is doing that is stirring up xenophobia to the outside world. Words are sometimes translated into actions. Apart from Zheng He's overblown treasure fleets that reached East Africa, China has always been a land power. In the age of oil-dependency, that is no longer an option. They are building a blue-water navy.

  443. @jack daniels
    @Tsar Nicholas

    Well apparently he did resist violently. That's why they won't show the redacted video portion IMO. But I agree that he was no longer dangerous and the cop's action certainly looks like murder. I would like to think that if I were at the scene I would have intervened more forcefully than the passersby who complained to the cops.

    I don't know how murder laws take into account provocations.

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    But I agree that he was no longer dangerous and the cop’s action certainly looks like murder.

    Hopefully, he’ll get a fair trial. The context for this killing is, of course, that American police kill a lot of citizens every year. The problem is obscured to some extent by focusing on black lives. I think they are killed in greater proportion but there are plenty of other ethnicities, and there are lots of stories about police being called to aid somebody with a medical or a mental problem, and then that somebody ending up dead.

    1200 deaths by cop every year is not good. In Germany, the annual figure is usually near zero. Britain too.

    I am no expert and I’m not American, but in English law I think the officer would have a hard time pleading provocation in an action which looks deliberate and cold blooded.

    But be of good cheer. One collateral casualty of this event is Biden’s proposed VP, Amy Klobuchar. She had the opportunity to prosecute this officer for the killing of a civilian over a decade