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In the wake of five white cops being murdered at the Black Lives Matter rally in Dallas on Thursday, you might think that BLM would have taken the weekend off out of mourning (shame).

But no …

The usual obnoxious BLM rallies — e.g., blocking freeways, throwing fireworks and chunks of concrete at cops — were held again across the country on Friday and Saturday nights. BLM self-promoter DeRay McKesson, who recently snagged for himself a $165k job with the Baltimore public school system, got himself ostentatiously arrested Saturday.

It has to be worrying to the more perceptive Hillary strategists, who found BLM useful in humiliating Bernie Sanders and Martin O’Malley (but not Hillary), that their Coalition of the Fringes strategy is so reliant upon restrained behavior by the bottom of the bottom fringe they’ve incited.

The upper reaches of BLM are mostly Obama-style quasi-black exotics on the career hustle: gays (e.g., DeRay), angry lesbians, wealthy black kids, black studies majors, blacks with one white parent or immigrant elite parents … the kind of educated individuals that the Clinton campaign and mainstream media are comfortable dealing with.

But the urban masses BLM is trying to rile up include a lot of individuals with poor impulse control and a documented history of violence.

Hillary has been playing with fire.

 
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  1. I suspect the upper echelon of BLM is controlled by white Leftists of the Bill Ayers variety, stoking the fire to facilitate “revolutionary change”. The Leftist elected officials are confident that their white Leftist agents within BLM can manipulate and control the violent throngs of black foot soldiers. BHO, Hillary etc see the Dallas massacre as a minor inconvenience that does not invalidate the overall strategy.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "I suspect the upper echelon of BLM is controlled by white Leftists of the Bill Ayers variety,"

    Makes sense because on average Black Homosexuals don't have much disposable income, so it's White seed money that helps keep Black Lies Matter alive. It's the White Homosexuals that have the disposable income. Studies have shown that Gay White males are the most affluent subgroup of the LGBTQ community. Gay POC have a sky high poverty rate.

    The reason I bring up Black Homos is because BLM was not started by Black Heterosexuals.
  2. I wonder what’s going on in the minds of Scandinavians in Minnesota right now. It’ll be interesting to see what level of diversity would cause a shift to the right.

    • Replies: @guest
    I'm in MN, and the refrain "God, I'm sick of black people" is going through my mind. Everyone else is a little stirred up by the video, thinking BLM is at it again, those naughty kids, and wondering, "What's for dinner?"

    Black unrest is mostly isolated to a couple of neighborhoods of Minneapolis, which might as well be on the dark side of the moon. We see them on the news. Sometimes the natives spill out, and we pretend to care about them. We care a little more these days, but that'll dissipate.

    I have noticed more and more black people in my suburb. Maybe my hometown is in decline, or maybe it's a result of the open conspiracy to disperse them and make them someone else's problem. In any case, they don't threaten me, and I could care less if they march on the Mall of America (which their type pretty much owns, anyway) or whatever.

    , @Jefferson
    "I wonder what’s going on in the minds of Scandinavians in Minnesota right now. It’ll be interesting to see what level of diversity would cause a shift to the right."

    Hildabeast will win Minnesota by a huge landslide. There will never be a shift to the Right among Norwegian and Swedish Americans in Minnesota. They love them some Black Lies Matter, they love them some Hildabeast, and they love them some Somalis. Minnesota Scandinavians are the good Whites.
    , @Clyde

    I wonder what’s going on in the minds of Scandinavians in Minnesota right now. It’ll be interesting to see what level of diversity would cause a shift to the right.
     
    I don't wonder one bit. The BLM St Paul riots that injured 21 police and the murder in Dallas of five white cops momentarily disrupted their "good-think" and that's all. American sheeple are more self involved than ever and the hack politicos love it.
    , @CCZ
    Minnesota has already "absorbed" 25,000 Somali migrants and "refugees" most all Muslim, with many in the suburbs. Many sponsored by Minnesota Christian churches.
  3. According to this pew research poll, only 28 percent of Whites oppose Black Lies Matter.
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/08/how-americans-view-the-black-lives-matter-movement/

    Or in other words only 28 percent of Whites are racial tribalists/racially aware.

    We Whites can be our own worst enemies.

    • Replies: @Dave
    If that stat is even close to being true, then we are too far gone. Back in the 70's, white people, even moderately liberal ones, were well aware of black crime and dysfunction and what black nationalists really wanted. People had lived through race riots in dozens of cities and white folks generally understood that black rage equalled black violence and crime.
    Hollywood and the media went to work and have spent the past 40 years manipulating public opinion, which leads to results like this.
    For those hoping for some sort of major white backlash... keep dreaming.
    , @anonymous
    Or only 28% of whites will admit to a pollster they oppose BLM.
  4. What are everyone’s thoughts on the talk out there that George Soros should be arrested and prosecuted for funding and inciting violence in multiple Western Nations?

    If Hungary as an example, or the U.S.A. after The Trumpening begins, were to do so, how would that affect elites’ desire to cause trouble going forward?

    • Replies: @Ragno
    Hand me the petition or give me the link. It's long past time to see that bat-winged goblin fitted for a pair of John Demjanjuk pajamas, and paraded in and out of court in 'em.
  5. If President Obama had a son, would he look like Micah X., the Dallas shooter?

    If not, why not?

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "If President Obama had a son, would he look like Micah X., the Dallas shooter?

    If not, why not?"

    What would Barack Hussein Obama's son look like if he had impregnated a White woman? The son would have 3 White grandparents.

    , @guest
    "If not, why not?"

    Because Obama's sons ambush and violently assault people, but not with guns.

    Okay, maybe they'll try to reach for the guns of the people they're pinning down, but they won't bring their own guns.
  6. Question for Hillary:

    Is closing down interstate highways and multiple downtown arterial roads OK?

    She really needs to answer this question.

    • Replies: @Curle
    She doesn't answer questions from plebs.
  7. I agree with this assessment. If you want to be a public intellectual or a political leader you cannot always just speak the unvarnished truth as it appears in your mind, because you must take into account the limitations of your audience. This is not to put things on the level of a Straussian idea of esoteric speech, either to avoid persecution or because hoi polloi doesn’t deserve to know the truth. It is rather a common sense understanding that words have consequences among your entire audience, including the 1/3 of Americans with IQ’s below 85 (or whatever the actual percentage is).

    In the current situation we have the twin phenomena of chronic failure and rampant crime in many AA communities, coupled with a technological and social media platform that makes it easy to instantly goad an internet mob into intense outbursts. Recognizing that this is the root cause of the crisis means that, if you are going to be leader, you have to address these issues carefully and with circumspection, to avoid inflaming the situation or creating simple minded dichotomies like black/cops, straights/gays, or whatever. None of our political leadership has been particularly good at this, but Hillary has definitely built her campaign on this. In fact, for most of these cases I seriously question whether it is responsible political leadership to say anything at all. For example, I don’t think any of Obama’s bloviating about Trayvon or Ferguson actually stopped any disturbances, or brought about any peace. In fact, it was perceived if anything as a justification for public demonstrations.

    We will know if there are any consequences to this intentional or unintended but consequential polarization and baiting over the course of the next three weeks. And then we have the long hot month of August.

    I’m not very upbeat about Trump’s candidacy, based on his previous undisciplined speech, but I won’t criticize him here. I do think he represents a better hope than Hillary Clinton. Her candidacy can be damaged if there is continued violence and she refuses to dissociate from those elements of society that she has wittingly or unwittingly inspired to violence. If there is violence, and she refuses the dissociate, she is likely to lose a significant percentage of the Great Middle of the D party. If there is violence, and she does dissociate, she will anger the fractious media that for the most part has been supporting her unstintingly (but see Maureen Dowd’s highly critical column today), and lose those minority votes. If there is no further violence she will still have to contend with the broad perception of her and her husband as a couple of arrogant crooks. Given the levels of uncertainty and violence going on, I would not want someone who is so lax about security and seemingly so lacking in integrity (“what difference does it make?”) answering any 3 AM phone calls, which, given her track record, would probably be tapped and on youtube in half an hour anyway.

    But please, let’s try to get Labor Day without a lot more blood on the streets.

    • Replies: @Lot

    including the 1/3 of Americans with IQ’s below 85 (or whatever the actual percentage is. )
     
    21.1% of Americans have IQs 85 or less.
    , @Yak-15
    I believe a normal distribution would have around 17 pct be under 85 IQ assuming SD of 15. 67 pct fall within 1 SD of the mean.
    , @Olorin
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2PSa3AzxskQ/T6ww3aqpaWI/AAAAAAAAJQU/E32VFSHOamU/s1600/group-differences.jpg

    % of population distributed at IQ 85 and lower:

    44% of blacks
    34% of Hispanics
    13% of whites
    8 % of Asians

    Source for that (AlFin) drew from Gottfredson and similar studies.

    Politicians aren't pitching to them; they don't vote as much. They pitch to those who keep them as virtue-signaling pets.

    , @Stan Adams

    For example, I don’t think any of Obama’s bloviating about Trayvon or Ferguson actually stopped any disturbances, or brought about any peace. In fact, it was perceived if anything as a justification for public demonstrations.
     
    Wasn't that the whole point?

    As Steve has said, in '12 and '14, Team Obama and his comrades in the Mediacrity fanned the flames of black anger to light a fire under the Democratic base. Our Fearless Leader didn't seem to care that he was about to set the whole damn country ablaze.

    , @Bernardista
    At the moment Hillary is no doubt sighing with relief due to the nation's attention being diverted away from the FBI investigation. It's probably a lot easier for her to make a generalized statement about all the mayhem going on than to stammer her way through more awkward email questions.

    " I’m not very upbeat about Trump’s candidacy, based on his previous undisciplined speech, but I won’t criticize him here."

    I have a strange feeling that he may not be the candidate at all. If the Republicans are even half as dedicated in repudiating Trump as the DNC was in anointing Hillary they might find a way to stop him.

    This would put the Clinton crowd in an odd situation since their campaign has been almost entirely based on #neverTrump.
    , @Lagertha
    Right, yeah... it was amazing that Dowd wrote some things that you and I agree with - sheesh, finally; she was dead to me for a long time, like several years, maybe a decade...but of course, women irritate me so I don't pay much attention to what they spout.

    And, I agree that Hillary & Trump are both flawed characters...but Trump doesn't scare me as much. Trump, in a weird way because he is older than me, sort of seems naive about all the things I care about: international politics/ISIS/migrant crisis/EU/European issues in general/continuing gestalt with Russia/pollution/arctic issues/animals...so, I am still trying to figure out what his take is on stuff I really care about. As for Hillary, well, I have sons (almost all adults), so she sucks for boys in America now, and for the next 20 years. In fact, the current Administration and the entire Democrat Party, most, so-called Progressives (seem to - I'll stay open minded for the summer) hate white boys...THIS scares me the most.

    As far as violence, well, irrational, illegal violence, without a question, is usually committed by stupid people. So, both political parties need to make sure their proponents adhere to a certain sense of decorum so it does not turn in to a sh*t sh*w at their conventions....or at the parking lots! Or, we could see the whole summer spent on reading articles/listening to unctuous talking heads interpreting what specific type of violence actually occurred at a convention/rally/meet-up. I don't want to be lectured about behavior....I am exceptionally well-mannered.
  8. Expecting blacks as a group to feel shame is invariably a fool’s errand.

    This all could hardly have come at a better time for Hillary.

    She’s added fuel to the fire by lecturing whites about our supposed responsibilities towards blacks without any sort of reciprocation.

    To the 2016 Democrat, whites have only responsibilities and blacks have only rights.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @pq
    since soros, who backs hillary, finances BLM one can assume these protests and perhaps more were orbhestrated to drown out the email scandal.
    , @boogerbently
    I wonder if the Dems condone/justify this behavior because they don't want us to quit paying for them with our generous govt programs. They have no skills or jobs. How else will they get $$$.
    If the silent majority, now supporting Trump, wants to get rid of the expense of illegal immigrants, how long until we revolt against paying for these useless leeches ?
  9. I really could care less about BLM, what concerns me more, much more, is the MSM’s lack of balanced coverage of the three separate events last week. I know the names and have met the family’s of the two men shot dead by the police. I won’t mention their names but I am absolutely sure you know them, just like the names of Travone Martin, Eric Gardner and Michael Brown are stuck in your head. When Freddie Gray died in police custody we had a photo line up of the six cops accused of murdering him. Now, without a Google assist, name one of the six Dallas cops shot and killed last week. I saw the sickening photo stills, from a security video, that showed one of the officers trying to hide behind a concrete pillar before being gunned down, and then shot again while he is prone. Didn’t see it? I wonder why?

    • Replies: @wren
    You met the families?

    I am curious.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Wren, Sorry, met them on TV.
  10. http://tinyurl.com/gpo25bx

    I think a lot of the BLM leaders are simply the result of generations of affirmative action. Expectations have now collided into biological reality.

    Some portion of this may simply be white liberals shifting the focus away from reality onto magic in order to avoid facing that reality. We’re onto three generations of progressive race policy and blacks seem to have topped out and now are falling down the social order. Everyone notices the impact of automation on the rednecks, but no one wants to think about what happens when the DMV is automated.

    Either way, all quiet here in the ghetto. Nice fist fight today between two pizza guys, but both were Mexicans so no gun fire.

  11. If the narrative about the guys killed in Minnesota and Louisiana falls apart, as it appears to be doing, I hope that the media takes notice.

    One was a blood and one was a crip?

    This whole situation is very sad and frustrating.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    they will ignore narrative collapse with rigour
    , @anon

    I hope that the media takes notice.
     
    The media is deliberately inciting it.

    If they reported non-black victims of police shootings then the media's narrative - that blacks are being specifically targeted - collapses, and it's that lie which they have been pumping into the heads of 85 IQ adult children that is getting lots of people killed.
    , @Blah
    Where is it being revealed that the guy in Minnesota was a gang member?
  12. Trump’s Uphill Fight: The States Where The White Population Has Declined The Most

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-uphill-fight-the-states-where-the-white-population-has-declined-the-most/

    Black voices:

    Made Man in a Blue Vest: Deray McKesson Is Debutante At Aspen One-Percenters Coming Out Party

    http://blackagendareport.com/made-man-in-blue-vest

    Freedom Rider: Republicans Reject Trump
    http://blackagendareport.com/republicans_reject_trump

    • Replies: @Lot
    Wow, I wonder if Steve is flattered or annoyed his basic statistical analysis has been copied by NY Times's David Wasserman.

    He provides the following figures/estimates:

    Romney got 61% of the white vote, but needed 64% to win.

    Because of demographic change, Trump will need 65% to win. Put another way, Trump needs the votes of roughly 1 in 10 of the white voters who are in the left-most 39% of whites.

    There is a tried and true way to do this: a law and order campaign. 2012 was completely about different issues.

    Another fun fact from Wasserman's article: the white share of the population declined in all 50 states. The only place voting for prez where it went up: D.C.

  13. @Buffalo Joe
    I really could care less about BLM, what concerns me more, much more, is the MSM's lack of balanced coverage of the three separate events last week. I know the names and have met the family's of the two men shot dead by the police. I won't mention their names but I am absolutely sure you know them, just like the names of Travone Martin, Eric Gardner and Michael Brown are stuck in your head. When Freddie Gray died in police custody we had a photo line up of the six cops accused of murdering him. Now, without a Google assist, name one of the six Dallas cops shot and killed last week. I saw the sickening photo stills, from a security video, that showed one of the officers trying to hide behind a concrete pillar before being gunned down, and then shot again while he is prone. Didn't see it? I wonder why?

    You met the families?

    I am curious.

  14. I’ve been wondering since the start of this election year in particular how smart it is for a political party or candidate to specifically antagonize the police. I’m curious if there are going to be any sorts of “blue-grassroots” repercussions for Hillary or the Democrats this election season on the part of the police, especially now that they’ve got an actual body count to lay at the feet of BLM. It wouldn’t be anything specifically organized or obvious, something like a “blue flu” the week of the DNC in Philadelphia in 2 weeks, some major traffic foul-ups or security slip ups at rallies, etc. Local cops have shown over the last few years, since the Henry Louis Gates imbroglio at the start of Obama’s Presidency, that they have a lot of little ways to embarrass and frustrate politicians without having to do an awful lot.

  15. Oligarch financier George Soros has given $33 million to BLM.

    He has also given $15 million to pro-Hillary groups.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-08/how-george-soros-singlehandedly-created-european-refugee-crisis-and-why

    • Replies: @Lot
    Zerohedge is sometimes fun to read, but you can't cite it because it is mostly clickbait trash. If it does ever have a credibly sourced article, cite the article's sources directly.

    Suppressing your party's embarrassing elements is an important test of a presidential candidate demonstrating leadership ability. Hillary is failing it badly.
    , @Anon
    Zero Hedge also said that Soros only gave Hillary 1 million directly. If he gave BLM 33 million, that says something interesting about his priorities. He's far more interested in stirring up anarchy than in getting Hillary elected.
  16. I am looking forward to riots in the ballot box.

  17. @SPMoore8
    I agree with this assessment. If you want to be a public intellectual or a political leader you cannot always just speak the unvarnished truth as it appears in your mind, because you must take into account the limitations of your audience. This is not to put things on the level of a Straussian idea of esoteric speech, either to avoid persecution or because hoi polloi doesn't deserve to know the truth. It is rather a common sense understanding that words have consequences among your entire audience, including the 1/3 of Americans with IQ's below 85 (or whatever the actual percentage is).

    In the current situation we have the twin phenomena of chronic failure and rampant crime in many AA communities, coupled with a technological and social media platform that makes it easy to instantly goad an internet mob into intense outbursts. Recognizing that this is the root cause of the crisis means that, if you are going to be leader, you have to address these issues carefully and with circumspection, to avoid inflaming the situation or creating simple minded dichotomies like black/cops, straights/gays, or whatever. None of our political leadership has been particularly good at this, but Hillary has definitely built her campaign on this. In fact, for most of these cases I seriously question whether it is responsible political leadership to say anything at all. For example, I don't think any of Obama's bloviating about Trayvon or Ferguson actually stopped any disturbances, or brought about any peace. In fact, it was perceived if anything as a justification for public demonstrations.

    We will know if there are any consequences to this intentional or unintended but consequential polarization and baiting over the course of the next three weeks. And then we have the long hot month of August.

    I'm not very upbeat about Trump's candidacy, based on his previous undisciplined speech, but I won't criticize him here. I do think he represents a better hope than Hillary Clinton. Her candidacy can be damaged if there is continued violence and she refuses to dissociate from those elements of society that she has wittingly or unwittingly inspired to violence. If there is violence, and she refuses the dissociate, she is likely to lose a significant percentage of the Great Middle of the D party. If there is violence, and she does dissociate, she will anger the fractious media that for the most part has been supporting her unstintingly (but see Maureen Dowd's highly critical column today), and lose those minority votes. If there is no further violence she will still have to contend with the broad perception of her and her husband as a couple of arrogant crooks. Given the levels of uncertainty and violence going on, I would not want someone who is so lax about security and seemingly so lacking in integrity ("what difference does it make?") answering any 3 AM phone calls, which, given her track record, would probably be tapped and on youtube in half an hour anyway.

    But please, let's try to get Labor Day without a lot more blood on the streets.

    including the 1/3 of Americans with IQ’s below 85 (or whatever the actual percentage is. )

    21.1% of Americans have IQs 85 or less.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    Thank you. That comes out to about 65 million people. Again, as Americans, we're all together on this, and any public figure has to watch what they say and how they say it. That's part of the reason why identifying "dog whistles" is so stupid, because the percentage of the population that is likely to respond passionately to them can't even hear them. On the contrary, they only "hear them" after some standard deviation plus individual "explains" it to them. Which once again goes to irresponsibility among our intelligentsia.
    , @AnotherDad

    21.1% of Americans have IQs 85 or less.
     
    Lot, curious where you got this figure.

    I did a back-of-the-envelope myself:
    white 63% x 16% -> ~10
    black 13% x 50% -> ~6.5
    hispanic+native 17% x 30% -> ~5
    asian and random other -> ~0.5
    and came up with something in pretty much the same ballpark--22%.

    But haven't seen any site with a good table for distribution of IQ among Americans given all the racial diversity.

    Of course any way you slice it ... it's a ton of stupid folks. If we want to have a decent place to live we need to get on with policies that promote "eugenic" fertility.
    , @athEIst
    It only seems so much more.
  18. “In the wake of five white cops being murdered at the Black Lives Matter rally in Dallas on Thursday, you might think that BLM would have taken the weekend off out of mourning (shame).”

    No chance I’d think that. I’m not as nice as you are. I

    Off-hand I can’t think of anyone smarter than you (except Henry James, who was so smart he made sure he’d been dead for a century before this nonsense broke out). And yet, absent any evidence whatsoever, you repeatedly ascribe to the immoral and amoral the stringent moral precepts by which you apparently live your life.

    It’s astonishing.

    • Agree: Jack Hanson
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    I have no idea what you're trying to say.
    , @L Woods
    Our host writes as though he assumes a modicum of common decency in our quarry exactly to highlight its manifest absence. He's hardly as naive as his rhetorical style might suggest on its face.
  19. @JohnnyWalker123
    Oligarch financier George Soros has given $33 million to BLM.

    He has also given $15 million to pro-Hillary groups.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-08/how-george-soros-singlehandedly-created-european-refugee-crisis-and-why

    Zerohedge is sometimes fun to read, but you can’t cite it because it is mostly clickbait trash. If it does ever have a credibly sourced article, cite the article’s sources directly.

    Suppressing your party’s embarrassing elements is an important test of a presidential candidate demonstrating leadership ability. Hillary is failing it badly.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    The most trusted brand in political and PAC contributions lists Black Lives Matter as a PAC with $250 raised in this cycle. Does that sound even remotely possible to you?

    https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?cycle=2016&strID=C00595751
  20. @Lot

    including the 1/3 of Americans with IQ’s below 85 (or whatever the actual percentage is. )
     
    21.1% of Americans have IQs 85 or less.

    Thank you. That comes out to about 65 million people. Again, as Americans, we’re all together on this, and any public figure has to watch what they say and how they say it. That’s part of the reason why identifying “dog whistles” is so stupid, because the percentage of the population that is likely to respond passionately to them can’t even hear them. On the contrary, they only “hear them” after some standard deviation plus individual “explains” it to them. Which once again goes to irresponsibility among our intelligentsia.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    "Again, as Americans, we’re all together on this..."

    No. We bloody effing well are not.

    Frankly--and with all due respect--I find your use of "we" as offensive as Obama's.

    I really cannot convey how alienated I feel from present-day America nor how embittered that sense of alienation has made me. It is a betrayal that I will never forgive or forget.

  21. This is Hillary’s worst nightmare: Having to deal with actual black people, as opposed to dealing with the black elite, which really isn’t that black.

  22. What do you expect? They retain momentum, despite the 9/11-ness of Dallas a few days ago. It’s not as if black people feel ashamed when Black Supremacists kill white people. (What are they, white people?) And it’s not as if the government, not counting rank and file cops, and the MSM are gonna suddenly decide they don’t want the race war they’ve been stoking these past several years.

    Correction , they don’t actually want a race war. They jus want one side of the potential race war to give up. If we can do that without an actual war, that’d be fine. But it’ll be hard to stop the black shock troops on a dime.

    • Replies: @Abe

    Correction , they don’t actually want a race war. They jus want one side of the potential race war to give up. If we can do that without an actual war, that’d be fine. But it’ll be hard to stop the black shock troops on a dime.
     
    Yes, but I think you are way too optimistic about which side it is that is going to surrender and under what terms that surrender is going to be administered. BLM is based on mendacity and lies, so meeting it even one inch is acceding to falsehood and injustice. Yet "compromise", "listening to each other", and "healing" will be the siren song the media plays the rest of the year to Mr. and Mrs. Joe Q. Public, and who but the most jaded alt-right'r is going to say no to that?

    Some things I could see coming out of this that everyone not to the right of Trump will rapturously embrace:

    * gun control (strangely, the least likely to pass)
    * federalization of all police forces, which Hilary has already broached through the introduction of national "guidelines"; this means our last, real vestige of federalism (local and state control of criminal justice) will cease to exist, as every city and municipal police department in the country is made painfully aware it can be Ferguson'd by a well-funded, permanent, Federal bureaucracy at the drop of a hat
    * the sistah-ization of most police forces; this is based on some "viral" video made by a fat, angry, black female police "officer" calling for all the "racist" cops to get the f' out. Will the blue collar-ish but generally honest and effective white males who make up the bulk of our local police forces look at all this and decide it's not worth the headache? Will the tomorrow's police forces look like a West-side Chicago DMV? Sounds far-fetched, yet how did fat, angry, low-intelligence black women come to dominate the staff of so many prisons (including men's ones)? How did we come to live in a country in which for the last 8 years the legal chain-of-command is almost entirely black, from the President to his Attorney General to the local police chief?
  23. @Ben Kurtz
    If President Obama had a son, would he look like Micah X., the Dallas shooter?

    If not, why not?

    “If President Obama had a son, would he look like Micah X., the Dallas shooter?

    If not, why not?”

    What would Barack Hussein Obama’s son look like if he had impregnated a White woman? The son would have 3 White grandparents.

  24. @duderino
    I wonder what's going on in the minds of Scandinavians in Minnesota right now. It'll be interesting to see what level of diversity would cause a shift to the right.

    I’m in MN, and the refrain “God, I’m sick of black people” is going through my mind. Everyone else is a little stirred up by the video, thinking BLM is at it again, those naughty kids, and wondering, “What’s for dinner?”

    Black unrest is mostly isolated to a couple of neighborhoods of Minneapolis, which might as well be on the dark side of the moon. We see them on the news. Sometimes the natives spill out, and we pretend to care about them. We care a little more these days, but that’ll dissipate.

    I have noticed more and more black people in my suburb. Maybe my hometown is in decline, or maybe it’s a result of the open conspiracy to disperse them and make them someone else’s problem. In any case, they don’t threaten me, and I could care less if they march on the Mall of America (which their type pretty much owns, anyway) or whatever.

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yep, I'm from the upper Midwest and lived in MN. It'll take a lot more to get Goodwhite Minnesotans to start questioning their beliefs. They'll ignore the problem until it's literally on their doorstep.

    The vast majority of upper-middle class whites aren't even in the same universe as the people around here. We've got a long, long way to go.
  25. @George
    Trump’s Uphill Fight: The States Where The White Population Has Declined The Most

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-uphill-fight-the-states-where-the-white-population-has-declined-the-most/

    Black voices:

    Made Man in a Blue Vest: Deray McKesson Is Debutante At Aspen One-Percenters Coming Out Party

    http://blackagendareport.com/made-man-in-blue-vest

    Freedom Rider: Republicans Reject Trump
    http://blackagendareport.com/republicans_reject_trump

    Wow, I wonder if Steve is flattered or annoyed his basic statistical analysis has been copied by NY Times’s David Wasserman.

    He provides the following figures/estimates:

    Romney got 61% of the white vote, but needed 64% to win.

    Because of demographic change, Trump will need 65% to win. Put another way, Trump needs the votes of roughly 1 in 10 of the white voters who are in the left-most 39% of whites.

    There is a tried and true way to do this: a law and order campaign. 2012 was completely about different issues.

    Another fun fact from Wasserman’s article: the white share of the population declined in all 50 states. The only place voting for prez where it went up: D.C.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan

    Romney got 61% of the white vote, but needed 64% to win.
     
    If the white vote voted as one-sided as the black vote, that would be no problem. We only have competitive elections because whites don't vote in lockstep.
    , @rod1963
    BLM may deliver the presidency to Trump.

    Being virulently anti-white and anti-cop, I see some blacks doing a copy cat of the Dallas shooter. Heck the killer is already being venerated among the NOI folks and others.

    With a little luck we may get another major urban riot.

    BTW another BLM thug just got nailed by the police:

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/off-duty-st-louis-county-officer-fatally-shoots-intruder-at/article_00c6c2bd-d559-5b78-a8f1-e78187dfa2a6.html

    Another black body hits the dirt.

    More outrage to follow, followed by another volatile black body confronting cops and getting a one way trip to slumbering pines.
    , @Jefferson
    "Because of demographic change, Trump will need 65% to win. Put another way, Trump needs the votes of roughly 1 in 10 of the white voters who are in the left-most 39% of whites."

    How many states does Donald Trump need to win at least 65 percent of the White vote in order to become the next POTUS? Do you think he can win at least 65 percent of the White vote in Florida, North Carolina, Nevada, and Ohio?

  26. @Ben Kurtz
    If President Obama had a son, would he look like Micah X., the Dallas shooter?

    If not, why not?

    “If not, why not?”

    Because Obama’s sons ambush and violently assault people, but not with guns.

    Okay, maybe they’ll try to reach for the guns of the people they’re pinning down, but they won’t bring their own guns.

  27. @duderino
    I wonder what's going on in the minds of Scandinavians in Minnesota right now. It'll be interesting to see what level of diversity would cause a shift to the right.

    “I wonder what’s going on in the minds of Scandinavians in Minnesota right now. It’ll be interesting to see what level of diversity would cause a shift to the right.”

    Hildabeast will win Minnesota by a huge landslide. There will never be a shift to the Right among Norwegian and Swedish Americans in Minnesota. They love them some Black Lies Matter, they love them some Hildabeast, and they love them some Somalis. Minnesota Scandinavians are the good Whites.

  28. “Hillary has been playing with fire”

    Hillary does not care. She would rather see the country burn – as long as she wins. If BLM keeps blacks from realizing that unlimited immigration is harming them, then Hillary is for the most massive and disruptive and violent protests possible. The only danger for her is Bernie deciding to run on a third party. Bernie is just stupid enough – and he is unintelligent – to believe this is a mass uprising akin to Petrograd 1917.

    • Replies: @e
    Even Mr. Rogers would have stood up to those two bitches who took his microphone in Seattle. True, unlike the Donald, who would have shouted, rightly so, "Get them the hell outta here," Mr. Rogers would likely have lectured them on their bad manners and their inattention to being good citizens, but he would have stood up to them. Not so testosterone-less Bernie. I can't understand voters of any stripe giving him serious consideration for ANY job after THAT show of cowardice.

    Some events can, in retrospect, be seen as those which slow movements or give them impetus. We know which one the one in Seattle was.

  29. @SPMoore8
    I agree with this assessment. If you want to be a public intellectual or a political leader you cannot always just speak the unvarnished truth as it appears in your mind, because you must take into account the limitations of your audience. This is not to put things on the level of a Straussian idea of esoteric speech, either to avoid persecution or because hoi polloi doesn't deserve to know the truth. It is rather a common sense understanding that words have consequences among your entire audience, including the 1/3 of Americans with IQ's below 85 (or whatever the actual percentage is).

    In the current situation we have the twin phenomena of chronic failure and rampant crime in many AA communities, coupled with a technological and social media platform that makes it easy to instantly goad an internet mob into intense outbursts. Recognizing that this is the root cause of the crisis means that, if you are going to be leader, you have to address these issues carefully and with circumspection, to avoid inflaming the situation or creating simple minded dichotomies like black/cops, straights/gays, or whatever. None of our political leadership has been particularly good at this, but Hillary has definitely built her campaign on this. In fact, for most of these cases I seriously question whether it is responsible political leadership to say anything at all. For example, I don't think any of Obama's bloviating about Trayvon or Ferguson actually stopped any disturbances, or brought about any peace. In fact, it was perceived if anything as a justification for public demonstrations.

    We will know if there are any consequences to this intentional or unintended but consequential polarization and baiting over the course of the next three weeks. And then we have the long hot month of August.

    I'm not very upbeat about Trump's candidacy, based on his previous undisciplined speech, but I won't criticize him here. I do think he represents a better hope than Hillary Clinton. Her candidacy can be damaged if there is continued violence and she refuses to dissociate from those elements of society that she has wittingly or unwittingly inspired to violence. If there is violence, and she refuses the dissociate, she is likely to lose a significant percentage of the Great Middle of the D party. If there is violence, and she does dissociate, she will anger the fractious media that for the most part has been supporting her unstintingly (but see Maureen Dowd's highly critical column today), and lose those minority votes. If there is no further violence she will still have to contend with the broad perception of her and her husband as a couple of arrogant crooks. Given the levels of uncertainty and violence going on, I would not want someone who is so lax about security and seemingly so lacking in integrity ("what difference does it make?") answering any 3 AM phone calls, which, given her track record, would probably be tapped and on youtube in half an hour anyway.

    But please, let's try to get Labor Day without a lot more blood on the streets.

    I believe a normal distribution would have around 17 pct be under 85 IQ assuming SD of 15. 67 pct fall within 1 SD of the mean.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    Right, two thirds one STD around the mean sounds about right. And then one-third of one-third above, and one third below, and so on. The other guy who responded to me might have been using a different metric or the distribution in reality might be a bit skewed. In any case, we are talking about upwards of 50 million people. And, BTW, when I refer to the one STD plus types, I have in mind most people in the media, academia, politics, etc. Although I am sure that -- come to think of it -- a number of the chattering classes fall below 115.
    , @The most deplorable one
    However, it is well known that the average IQ of AfAms is 85, so 50% of them are below 85.

    Thus, you take 31.72/2 of whites (31.72% are outside one SD either side of the mean) or about 16% of whites, 50% of blacks, around 40% of hispanics (average IQ of 90-94) and so forth.

    21% of the US sounds about right to me.
  30. @Yak-15
    I believe a normal distribution would have around 17 pct be under 85 IQ assuming SD of 15. 67 pct fall within 1 SD of the mean.

    Right, two thirds one STD around the mean sounds about right. And then one-third of one-third above, and one third below, and so on. The other guy who responded to me might have been using a different metric or the distribution in reality might be a bit skewed. In any case, we are talking about upwards of 50 million people. And, BTW, when I refer to the one STD plus types, I have in mind most people in the media, academia, politics, etc. Although I am sure that — come to think of it — a number of the chattering classes fall below 115.

    • Replies: @Yak-15
    It's a scary scary figure
  31. The Asian looking Mexican police officer assumed the Negro man in Minnesota was pulling out a gun because he comes from a very low trust society which is Mexico. Cop killers are very common in Mexico. So this killing should be blamed on low trust Mexican culture and not Aryan master race White supremacy like the kosher media is trying to paint it.

    When you combine Immigrants who come from low trust countries with American urban inner city Negroes, you are going to get tragedies like these sometimes. That’s the price to pay for Vibrant DIEversity.

    • Agree: Mark Green
  32. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @Yak-15
    I believe a normal distribution would have around 17 pct be under 85 IQ assuming SD of 15. 67 pct fall within 1 SD of the mean.

    However, it is well known that the average IQ of AfAms is 85, so 50% of them are below 85.

    Thus, you take 31.72/2 of whites (31.72% are outside one SD either side of the mean) or about 16% of whites, 50% of blacks, around 40% of hispanics (average IQ of 90-94) and so forth.

    21% of the US sounds about right to me.

  33. This is too good not to report: #BLM aka #BlackLivesMatter has a new hashtag:

    #CutForBlackLives

    That’s right, if you are white, your penance is to cut yourself. The wittiest rejoinder I have seen so far, is that, if you are going to do this, just make sure you make the cut across your throat:

    http://www.inquisitr.com/3291496/dear-white-people-cut-for-black-lives/

    • Replies: @27 year old
    seems like a /pol/ or TRS trolling effort
    , @Anon
    The best reply I can think of is for whites to say, "Nah, you first."
    , @Jefferson
    "This is too good not to report: #BLM aka #BlackLivesMatter has a new hashtag:

    #CutForBlackLives

    That’s right, if you are white, your penance is to cut yourself. The wittiest rejoinder I have seen so far, is that, if you are going to do this, just make sure you make the cut across your throat:"

    The Black woman said how about cut us a reperations check instead

    Go ask your White Jewish master George Soros for a reperations check, after all he is richer than God and there was also Jewish participation in the African slave trade.
    , @Anonymous
    That sounds like a 4chan troll hashtag and almost definitely is one. They've done a near-identical one in the past involving "cutting for Justin Bieber."
  34. @AndrewR
    Expecting blacks as a group to feel shame is invariably a fool's errand.

    This all could hardly have come at a better time for Hillary.

    She's added fuel to the fire by lecturing whites about our supposed responsibilities towards blacks without any sort of reciprocation.

    To the 2016 Democrat, whites have only responsibilities and blacks have only rights.

    since soros, who backs hillary, finances BLM one can assume these protests and perhaps more were orbhestrated to drown out the email scandal.

  35. OT Poland won the 2016 European Athletic Championships
    with 6 gold medals, etc, beating Germany and Britain with
    5 gold medals, etc each. The Championships were held in
    Amsterdam, and included athletes from 50 nations

  36. @wren
    If the narrative about the guys killed in Minnesota and Louisiana falls apart, as it appears to be doing, I hope that the media takes notice.

    One was a blood and one was a crip?

    This whole situation is very sad and frustrating.

    they will ignore narrative collapse with rigour

  37. @SPMoore8
    I agree with this assessment. If you want to be a public intellectual or a political leader you cannot always just speak the unvarnished truth as it appears in your mind, because you must take into account the limitations of your audience. This is not to put things on the level of a Straussian idea of esoteric speech, either to avoid persecution or because hoi polloi doesn't deserve to know the truth. It is rather a common sense understanding that words have consequences among your entire audience, including the 1/3 of Americans with IQ's below 85 (or whatever the actual percentage is).

    In the current situation we have the twin phenomena of chronic failure and rampant crime in many AA communities, coupled with a technological and social media platform that makes it easy to instantly goad an internet mob into intense outbursts. Recognizing that this is the root cause of the crisis means that, if you are going to be leader, you have to address these issues carefully and with circumspection, to avoid inflaming the situation or creating simple minded dichotomies like black/cops, straights/gays, or whatever. None of our political leadership has been particularly good at this, but Hillary has definitely built her campaign on this. In fact, for most of these cases I seriously question whether it is responsible political leadership to say anything at all. For example, I don't think any of Obama's bloviating about Trayvon or Ferguson actually stopped any disturbances, or brought about any peace. In fact, it was perceived if anything as a justification for public demonstrations.

    We will know if there are any consequences to this intentional or unintended but consequential polarization and baiting over the course of the next three weeks. And then we have the long hot month of August.

    I'm not very upbeat about Trump's candidacy, based on his previous undisciplined speech, but I won't criticize him here. I do think he represents a better hope than Hillary Clinton. Her candidacy can be damaged if there is continued violence and she refuses to dissociate from those elements of society that she has wittingly or unwittingly inspired to violence. If there is violence, and she refuses the dissociate, she is likely to lose a significant percentage of the Great Middle of the D party. If there is violence, and she does dissociate, she will anger the fractious media that for the most part has been supporting her unstintingly (but see Maureen Dowd's highly critical column today), and lose those minority votes. If there is no further violence she will still have to contend with the broad perception of her and her husband as a couple of arrogant crooks. Given the levels of uncertainty and violence going on, I would not want someone who is so lax about security and seemingly so lacking in integrity ("what difference does it make?") answering any 3 AM phone calls, which, given her track record, would probably be tapped and on youtube in half an hour anyway.

    But please, let's try to get Labor Day without a lot more blood on the streets.


    % of population distributed at IQ 85 and lower:

    44% of blacks
    34% of Hispanics
    13% of whites
    8 % of Asians

    Source for that (AlFin) drew from Gottfredson and similar studies.

    Politicians aren’t pitching to them; they don’t vote as much. They pitch to those who keep them as virtue-signaling pets.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    Politicians may not pitch to the ~85 IQ crowd, but that's not the point if they hear the message and vote by looting and rioting. BTW, thanks for the stats.
    , @anon

    % of population distributed at IQ 85 and lower:

    44% of blacks
    34% of Hispanics
    13% of whites
    8 % of Asians

     


    00% of Jews
    wkwkwkwkwkwkw
    kwk
  38. @Lot

    including the 1/3 of Americans with IQ’s below 85 (or whatever the actual percentage is. )
     
    21.1% of Americans have IQs 85 or less.

    21.1% of Americans have IQs 85 or less.

    Lot, curious where you got this figure.

    I did a back-of-the-envelope myself:
    white 63% x 16% -> ~10
    black 13% x 50% -> ~6.5
    hispanic+native 17% x 30% -> ~5
    asian and random other -> ~0.5
    and came up with something in pretty much the same ballpark–22%.

    But haven’t seen any site with a good table for distribution of IQ among Americans given all the racial diversity.

    Of course any way you slice it … it’s a ton of stupid folks. If we want to have a decent place to live we need to get on with policies that promote “eugenic” fertility.

    • Replies: @Lot

    Lot, curious where you got this figure.
     
    National IQ of 97 with SD of 15 gives 21.1%.

    I did a back-of-the-envelope myself ... and came up with something in pretty much the same ballpark–22%.
     
    Your method was slightly better, as I assumed national IQ SD of 15. True for whites, and close for other groups, but not exactly the same. Hispanics are a mixed group so probably a little higher than 15, with blacks well-documented to be a bit lower. Asians/PI and NA are probably 15.

    If we want to have a decent place to live we need to get on with policies that promote “eugenic” fertility.
     
    Eliminating the income tax marriage penalty would reduce the tax burden on upper middle class married people the most, e.g., the major source of eugenic fertility in the USA.

    Taxes on the super rich should also go up for two reasons. First, they don't need it, and the upper middle class does. Second, their conspicuous consumption and status races make the upper middle class feel poorer and reduce their fertility as they try to rat-race/keep up with the Jones. Third, the super-rich are almost all well past their fertile years.

    Eugenic immigration policy of course is obvious.

    What would be the effect of a Muslim ban? As far as I can tell, in every part of the world Muslims have lower IQ then surrounding non-Muslims. Albanians have the lowest in Europe and Afghans are by far the lowest-IQ light-Caucasian group. In South Asia, Southeast Asia, the Horn of Africa, Nigeria, and the Middle East, non-Muslims groups all out-perform nearby Muslims groups.
    , @Former Darfur
    Of course any way you slice it … it’s a ton of stupid folks. If we want to have a decent place to live we need to get on with policies that promote “eugenic” fertility.

    Nothing could be more obvious- or more likely to get anyone advocating it considered a Nazi.
  39. Mr.Sailer,

    I’m sure you’ve seen this article by Cody Ross making the rounds in progressive circles:

    http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0141854

    Where does it take a wrong turn?*

    (*if it does)

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Unspoken assumption: blacks and whites behave exactly the same on average under similar circumstances.
    , @wren
    A hint is supplied right here in this thread. IQ.
    , @Almost Missouri
    I'm not a statistical expert like others here, but I can already see the following "wrong" turns (I put "wrong" in quotes because the authors appear to have had a predetermined outcome they wanted , so they probably don't consider these defects to be "wrong"--to them, they are right since they give the outcome they desire):

    • They basically give the game away in the beginning (without realizing it?) by admitting that the black rate of police shootings is about triple the white rate. Since the black crime rate is seven or eight times the white rate, this means that police are showing at least twice as much restraint in dealing with blacks as with whites. Of course, like most lefties, they don't mention the much higher black crime rate, so to the unenlightened the triple police shooting level looks like an injustice to blacks when it is really an injustice to whites. Most of the rest of the paper is just a lot of obscurantist data-wanking, apparently intended to keep anyone from putting 2 and 2 together--or 3 and 8 together.

    • They do pretend to address the higher black crime rate by having a section near the end address correlations with "race-specific crime proxies", but that is basically irrelevant. First, their proxies are weapons and assault charges, the definitions and enforcement of which vary wildly across jurisdictions, so it is not describing the same thing in different places. And even if it were, all that a non-correlation of police over-tolerance of black criminals versus white criminals with crime rates would show is just that police over-tolerance varies between jurisdictions, which should surprise no one and no one is disputing. So this section is just another non-event.

    • The authors spend some ink decrying the "structural bias" of the official, mainly FBI, statistics. Their criticisms may or may not have merit. The authors completely ignore, however, the yawning possibility of even greater structural bias in their own alternative sources.

    • There is an amusing section attempting to correlate something with the racist-ness of Google searches. I have no idea, and the study doesn't say, how the SWPL at Google define racist searches. My experience is that the people who use racial epithets most, which one would presume are a component of "racist" Google searches, are black, so the this section no doubt has many confounding factors. In any case the study's maps of this don't correspond to much of anything.

    After all of this, there is a little bit of interest. The maps do seem to show some areas being much less tolerant of black misbehavior than other areas. These are mainly three areas: the Southwest, Florida and the Acela corridor in the Northeast. I would explain this as follows: two areas (the Southwest and Florida) are where non-whites (mainly Hispanics) have assumed the reins of law enforcement in numbers, so blacks are coming into contact with people who don't hold the white tradition of over-tolerance of black misbehavior. The Acela corridor is of course the homeland of Left-Liberalism, so they really need rough men to do violence on their behalf so that they can continue to live the limousine liberal lifestyle to which they are accustomed.

    I don't know much about the Bayesian methodology or why they used it so extensively. The whole study seems designed to answer simple questions in complicated ways, which is usually a sign of having something to hide. Maybe someone more expert can be more insightful about this.

    No doubt, because this study appears to support Goodthink, it has a bright future of being cited by people who have not read it and wouldn't understand it if they had.

  40. @Lot
    Wow, I wonder if Steve is flattered or annoyed his basic statistical analysis has been copied by NY Times's David Wasserman.

    He provides the following figures/estimates:

    Romney got 61% of the white vote, but needed 64% to win.

    Because of demographic change, Trump will need 65% to win. Put another way, Trump needs the votes of roughly 1 in 10 of the white voters who are in the left-most 39% of whites.

    There is a tried and true way to do this: a law and order campaign. 2012 was completely about different issues.

    Another fun fact from Wasserman's article: the white share of the population declined in all 50 states. The only place voting for prez where it went up: D.C.

    Romney got 61% of the white vote, but needed 64% to win.

    If the white vote voted as one-sided as the black vote, that would be no problem. We only have competitive elections because whites don’t vote in lockstep.

  41. @SPMoore8
    Thank you. That comes out to about 65 million people. Again, as Americans, we're all together on this, and any public figure has to watch what they say and how they say it. That's part of the reason why identifying "dog whistles" is so stupid, because the percentage of the population that is likely to respond passionately to them can't even hear them. On the contrary, they only "hear them" after some standard deviation plus individual "explains" it to them. Which once again goes to irresponsibility among our intelligentsia.

    “Again, as Americans, we’re all together on this…”

    No. We bloody effing well are not.

    Frankly–and with all due respect–I find your use of “we” as offensive as Obama’s.

    I really cannot convey how alienated I feel from present-day America nor how embittered that sense of alienation has made me. It is a betrayal that I will never forgive or forget.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    Sorry you feel alienated. In many ways, I do too. But we aren't going to get anywhere talking about excluding from "US" any particular part of our population, whether it be due to race or ethnicity or just plain stupidity.

    I mean, we could also just do nothing and let the trolley run over Miss Liberty. That seems to be what's happening anyway.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    I'm an expat but I recognize that's not a solution. But from where I sit I have no desire to return to the United States permanently. There are personal reasons for my expat status, but also geopolitical ones: I no longer feel that large portions of the population of the United States are my countrymen. That's a long personal journey for a guy who used to choke up singing America the Beautiful. I think that I would have difficulty reciting the Pledge of Allegiance or honoring the flag of this wreckage of a Republic.
  42. @justwonderingaboutbaseball
    Mr.Sailer,

    I'm sure you've seen this article by Cody Ross making the rounds in progressive circles:

    http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0141854

    Where does it take a wrong turn?*

    (*if it does)

    Unspoken assumption: blacks and whites behave exactly the same on average under similar circumstances.

    • Replies: @justwonderingaboutbaseball
    Thanks for the reply. I also think there is something a bit iffy about how the data was accumulated and why crime rates would be a good assumption for rates of police interaction.
  43. @SPMoore8
    This is too good not to report: #BLM aka #BlackLivesMatter has a new hashtag:

    #CutForBlackLives

    That's right, if you are white, your penance is to cut yourself. The wittiest rejoinder I have seen so far, is that, if you are going to do this, just make sure you make the cut across your throat:

    http://www.inquisitr.com/3291496/dear-white-people-cut-for-black-lives/

    seems like a /pol/ or TRS trolling effort

    • Agree: SPMoore8, SPMoore8
  44. The Daily Mail continues its standard of being the only big-budget investigative journalism in America.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3682619/Pictured-female-soldier-pervert-Dallas-cop-killer-sexually-harassed-colleague-reveals-murderer-used-steal-girls-panties.html

    Executive Summary:

    The female soldier Micah X. Johnson harassed is a Chinese-American. He was a serious horndog who stole panties from female personnel in Afghanistan. Lotsa pix.

    • Replies: @Yak-15
    I don't blame the guy for that so much as I blame the military for putting women in the war zones. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
  45. • Replies: @anonymous

    It seems that Hillary and Bill are so eager to agitate black Americans that they are willing to endorse explicit calls for race-based murder.

     

    Every time I turn around the Clintons have reached new lows in sleaziness. Is there no limit? How low can they go?
  46. @Lot
    Wow, I wonder if Steve is flattered or annoyed his basic statistical analysis has been copied by NY Times's David Wasserman.

    He provides the following figures/estimates:

    Romney got 61% of the white vote, but needed 64% to win.

    Because of demographic change, Trump will need 65% to win. Put another way, Trump needs the votes of roughly 1 in 10 of the white voters who are in the left-most 39% of whites.

    There is a tried and true way to do this: a law and order campaign. 2012 was completely about different issues.

    Another fun fact from Wasserman's article: the white share of the population declined in all 50 states. The only place voting for prez where it went up: D.C.

    BLM may deliver the presidency to Trump.

    Being virulently anti-white and anti-cop, I see some blacks doing a copy cat of the Dallas shooter. Heck the killer is already being venerated among the NOI folks and others.

    With a little luck we may get another major urban riot.

    BTW another BLM thug just got nailed by the police:

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/off-duty-st-louis-county-officer-fatally-shoots-intruder-at/article_00c6c2bd-d559-5b78-a8f1-e78187dfa2a6.html

    Another black body hits the dirt.

    More outrage to follow, followed by another volatile black body confronting cops and getting a one way trip to slumbering pines.

  47. @justwonderingaboutbaseball
    Mr.Sailer,

    I'm sure you've seen this article by Cody Ross making the rounds in progressive circles:

    http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0141854

    Where does it take a wrong turn?*

    (*if it does)

    A hint is supplied right here in this thread. IQ.

  48. Hillary has been playing fire.

    Has she been? The media is there to make sure that no one (except extremist crimethinkers like the people who read this blog) ever draws a connection between Hillary/Obama, BLM and events like the Dallaa shootings. It hasn’t rebounded on them so far. What does Hillary have to fear? Someone draw this out for me, I really don’t know what it would take for the Democrats to pay a political price for all this hate they’ve been stirring up.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    I'd like to hit that "agree" button for you, but I already used it this hour.
    , @AnotherDad

    ... what it would take for the Democrats to pay a political price for all this hate they’ve been stirring up.
     
    It would take a Republican party\candidates who actually confront the narrative straight on. That unfortunately we have been completely lacking for at least a generation or more.

    Obama has been shit stirring black rage for several years--it's about the only part of his presidency he seems interested in--outside of occasionally lecturing whites on Islam--and the "opposition" party can't even bother to show up and say "Obama's shit stirring and it's leading to high crime and more bodies in the streets".

    Instead Paul Ryan is the official face of the "opposition" party.
  49. @SPMoore8
    Right, two thirds one STD around the mean sounds about right. And then one-third of one-third above, and one third below, and so on. The other guy who responded to me might have been using a different metric or the distribution in reality might be a bit skewed. In any case, we are talking about upwards of 50 million people. And, BTW, when I refer to the one STD plus types, I have in mind most people in the media, academia, politics, etc. Although I am sure that -- come to think of it -- a number of the chattering classes fall below 115.

    It’s a scary scary figure

  50. @Kylie
    "Again, as Americans, we’re all together on this..."

    No. We bloody effing well are not.

    Frankly--and with all due respect--I find your use of "we" as offensive as Obama's.

    I really cannot convey how alienated I feel from present-day America nor how embittered that sense of alienation has made me. It is a betrayal that I will never forgive or forget.

    Sorry you feel alienated. In many ways, I do too. But we aren’t going to get anywhere talking about excluding from “US” any particular part of our population, whether it be due to race or ethnicity or just plain stupidity.

    I mean, we could also just do nothing and let the trolley run over Miss Liberty. That seems to be what’s happening anyway.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    Sorry, SP, but when I put the question to blacks in three different media comment sections, asking why isn't BLM marching through the South Side of Chicago, where 115 of their co-ethnics were shot this past weekend, and they ALL respond with the same answer, that BLM is about YT killing black bodies, I'm at a loss as to whether I want to share the solar system with these people, never mind the planet.

    As the Good Book says, come see me about that mote when your log is taken care of.
  51. @duderino
    I wonder what's going on in the minds of Scandinavians in Minnesota right now. It'll be interesting to see what level of diversity would cause a shift to the right.

    I wonder what’s going on in the minds of Scandinavians in Minnesota right now. It’ll be interesting to see what level of diversity would cause a shift to the right.

    I don’t wonder one bit. The BLM St Paul riots that injured 21 police and the murder in Dallas of five white cops momentarily disrupted their “good-think” and that’s all. American sheeple are more self involved than ever and the hack politicos love it.

  52. @Olorin
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2PSa3AzxskQ/T6ww3aqpaWI/AAAAAAAAJQU/E32VFSHOamU/s1600/group-differences.jpg

    % of population distributed at IQ 85 and lower:

    44% of blacks
    34% of Hispanics
    13% of whites
    8 % of Asians

    Source for that (AlFin) drew from Gottfredson and similar studies.

    Politicians aren't pitching to them; they don't vote as much. They pitch to those who keep them as virtue-signaling pets.

    Politicians may not pitch to the ~85 IQ crowd, but that’s not the point if they hear the message and vote by looting and rioting. BTW, thanks for the stats.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    Question is, SP, who's getting that crowd into the streets.

    Prolly the more than ~85 crowd, nu?
  53. @JohnnyWalker123
    Oligarch financier George Soros has given $33 million to BLM.

    He has also given $15 million to pro-Hillary groups.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-08/how-george-soros-singlehandedly-created-european-refugee-crisis-and-why

    Zero Hedge also said that Soros only gave Hillary 1 million directly. If he gave BLM 33 million, that says something interesting about his priorities. He’s far more interested in stirring up anarchy than in getting Hillary elected.

    • Replies: @EdwardM
    It could be just that the bang for the buck, so to speak, is higher in funding BLM. Hillary won't be short of money. Plus maybe he doesn't need any favors from her on a micro level, or, if he does, figures he's already given enough.
    , @Jefferson
    "Zero Hedge also said that Soros only gave Hillary 1 million directly. If he gave BLM 33 million, that says something interesting about his priorities. He’s far more interested in stirring up anarchy than in getting Hillary elected."

    I wonder why George Soros has an extreme hatred of law enforcement? Does he see most police officers as anti-Semitic?

    I wonder what percentage of Jews hold extremely negative views of the police? We will never know because no polling company like Gallup or Rasmussen will ever question Jews on the subject of law enforcement.

    My gut tells me George Soros is extremely happy that 5 White Dallas police officers were murdered.

    Micah Johnson was the adopted son that George Soros never had
  54. @Steve Sailer
    Unspoken assumption: blacks and whites behave exactly the same on average under similar circumstances.

    Thanks for the reply. I also think there is something a bit iffy about how the data was accumulated and why crime rates would be a good assumption for rates of police interaction.

  55. @SPMoore8
    This is too good not to report: #BLM aka #BlackLivesMatter has a new hashtag:

    #CutForBlackLives

    That's right, if you are white, your penance is to cut yourself. The wittiest rejoinder I have seen so far, is that, if you are going to do this, just make sure you make the cut across your throat:

    http://www.inquisitr.com/3291496/dear-white-people-cut-for-black-lives/

    The best reply I can think of is for whites to say, “Nah, you first.”

  56. @SPMoore8
    This is too good not to report: #BLM aka #BlackLivesMatter has a new hashtag:

    #CutForBlackLives

    That's right, if you are white, your penance is to cut yourself. The wittiest rejoinder I have seen so far, is that, if you are going to do this, just make sure you make the cut across your throat:

    http://www.inquisitr.com/3291496/dear-white-people-cut-for-black-lives/

    “This is too good not to report: #BLM aka #BlackLivesMatter has a new hashtag:

    #CutForBlackLives

    That’s right, if you are white, your penance is to cut yourself. The wittiest rejoinder I have seen so far, is that, if you are going to do this, just make sure you make the cut across your throat:”

    The Black woman said how about cut us a reperations check instead

    Go ask your White Jewish master George Soros for a reperations check, after all he is richer than God and there was also Jewish participation in the African slave trade.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    The Black woman said how about cut us a reperations check instead
     
    I'm perfectly ok with reparations:

    If an American black is willing to *give up* the huge unearned benefit that they have received by their (African) ancestors being transported free of charge to the US--i.e. give up their American citizenship--then i, American taxpayer, would be happy to pay to transport them back to Africa and give them a generous stipend (say $100k) in reparation for the burden of being born in this racist society.
  57. As Dr Frankenstein discovered, it’s one thing to create a monster and another altogether to control it. (And this particular monster will not quietly go the Arctic …)

    • Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    "In 1967 Sargent Shriver, as head of the Office of Economic Opportunity, had given the Blackstone Rangers, a Chicago gang which was one of the predecessors of the Gangster Disciples, a grant for over $900,000 to engage in, well, gang-related activity, which is to say criminal behavior, which at the time was a convenient way of driving Catholics out of the ethnic neighborhoods they had established on the South Side of Chicago.

    When the regime realized that the civil rights movement had morphed into a monster, the FBI was sent in to kill the Black Panthers. They created a COINTELPRO operation to take out the Chicago branch, then headed by Fred Hampton." -E. Michael Jones

    "All Black [Covert] Operations get out of control and eventually turn on their handlers." B. H. Liddell Hart, Strategy: An Indirect Approach

    Two other good quotes from Hart:
    Loss of hope rather than loss of life is what decides the issues of war. But helplessness induces hopelessness.

    A complacent satisfaction with present knowledge is the chief bar to the pursuit of knowledge.

  58. Just might be the dumbest tweet I’ve read in awhile: Jeffrey Goldberg weighs in on #BLM. Discuss!

    https://twitter.com/JeffreyGoldberg/status/752289907347906564

    • Replies: @Clyde

    I suspect that in 20 or 30 years, Black Lives Matter will be remembered the way most people think of the SCLC and the Freedom Riders today.— Jeffrey Goldberg (@JeffreyGoldberg) July 10, 2016
     

    Just might be the dumbest tweet I’ve read in awhile: Jeffrey Goldberg weighs in on #BLM. Discuss!
     
    All depends on who writes the history books and you want to place any bets?
    , @Lot
    Jeffrey Goldberg is angling to be President Hillary's pet Likudnik. He has to be nice to the rest of Team Hillary.
    , @stillCARealist
    Now I have to completely re-assess the Freedom Riders and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. Is Mr. Goldberg saying they were radical, racist, terror-inducing, former Nazi-financed law-breakers?
    , @anon
    Not dumb, evil.

    They know black people aren't being specifically targeted and their lies are getting lots of people killed - but not them because the media filth live somewhere safe.

    Everyone who works for the media is scum.
  59. @guest
    I'm in MN, and the refrain "God, I'm sick of black people" is going through my mind. Everyone else is a little stirred up by the video, thinking BLM is at it again, those naughty kids, and wondering, "What's for dinner?"

    Black unrest is mostly isolated to a couple of neighborhoods of Minneapolis, which might as well be on the dark side of the moon. We see them on the news. Sometimes the natives spill out, and we pretend to care about them. We care a little more these days, but that'll dissipate.

    I have noticed more and more black people in my suburb. Maybe my hometown is in decline, or maybe it's a result of the open conspiracy to disperse them and make them someone else's problem. In any case, they don't threaten me, and I could care less if they march on the Mall of America (which their type pretty much owns, anyway) or whatever.

    Yep, I’m from the upper Midwest and lived in MN. It’ll take a lot more to get Goodwhite Minnesotans to start questioning their beliefs. They’ll ignore the problem until it’s literally on their doorstep.

    The vast majority of upper-middle class whites aren’t even in the same universe as the people around here. We’ve got a long, long way to go.

    • Replies: @pink_point
    You mean the MN upper-middle, and upper class have had no changes in their life, safery, ..., until now?
    , @fnn

    Yep, I’m from the upper Midwest and lived in MN. It’ll take a lot more to get Goodwhite Minnesotans to start questioning their beliefs.
     
    Seriously, does anyone know why they were once so anti-Semitic:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Minneapolis#Politics.2C_corruption.2C_anti-Semitism_and_social_change

    Minneapolis was known for anti-Semitism beginning in the 1880s and through the 1950s.[29] The city was described as "the capital of anti-Semitism in the United States" in 1946 by Carey McWilliams[30] and in 1959 by Gunther Plaut.[31] At that time the city's Jews were excluded from membership in many organizations, faced employment discrimination, and were considered unwelcome residents in some neighborhoods.[32] Jews in Minneapolis were also not allowed to buy homes in certain neighborhoods of Minneapolis.[33]
     
  60. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Bill has to be shrieking in Hillary’s ear, “Move to the center, dammit! You’ve already won the primary and now you have to win the general! Move right, dammit, or you’ll lose!”

    If she doesn’t listen, she’s an idiot. However, she’s already proved she doesn’t have his political instincts, and she makes a point of surrounding herself with yes-persons. Hillary is just arrogant enough to think she knows better than Bill, and I have no doubt she wants to win by calling her own shots.

  61. In the wake of five white cops being murdered at the Black Lives Matter rally in Dallas on Thursday, you might think that BLM would have taken the weekend off out of mourning (shame).

    Not! Because BLM is 100% driven by emotion and they are white hot right now. Some Blacks love to act, perform and display (in the end zone for example) and there is no stopping them this week. They love thrusting their mindless garbage onto us. It’s an emotional purge that never ends because new crazy emotions are welling up. Facts and logic are out the window! in this tribal display and dance.
    Plus how many hookups take place at these BLM demos? Boy meets boy or girl or whatever.

  62. @Lot
    Wow, I wonder if Steve is flattered or annoyed his basic statistical analysis has been copied by NY Times's David Wasserman.

    He provides the following figures/estimates:

    Romney got 61% of the white vote, but needed 64% to win.

    Because of demographic change, Trump will need 65% to win. Put another way, Trump needs the votes of roughly 1 in 10 of the white voters who are in the left-most 39% of whites.

    There is a tried and true way to do this: a law and order campaign. 2012 was completely about different issues.

    Another fun fact from Wasserman's article: the white share of the population declined in all 50 states. The only place voting for prez where it went up: D.C.

    “Because of demographic change, Trump will need 65% to win. Put another way, Trump needs the votes of roughly 1 in 10 of the white voters who are in the left-most 39% of whites.”

    How many states does Donald Trump need to win at least 65 percent of the White vote in order to become the next POTUS? Do you think he can win at least 65 percent of the White vote in Florida, North Carolina, Nevada, and Ohio?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    “Because of demographic change, Trump will need 65% to win.
     
    Lot is wrong. Trump does not need 65% of the white vote to win.

    He does need to do better than Romney--whom i'm unconvinced even got to 60%--plus do another 1% better for demographic change.

    But the big issue is turnout. Romney's problem was that white people were not particularly energized to vote *for* Romney, and many didn't feel it was wise--or worthwhile given Romney--to dump the first black President. While blacks turned out strongly to vote for one of their own.

    Furthermore Romney had problems with both percentage and turnout precisely in midwest where he had to win to make up for demographic change out West. He couldn't take back Iowa or Ohio without which he could not win even if he'd been able to take back Florida and Virginia. Republicans simply can not with without winning Ohio.


    Do you think he can win at least 65 percent of the White vote in Florida, North Carolina, Nevada, and Ohio?
     
    Trump will win 65% of the white vote in North Carolina--unless he just doesn't get his act together and is blown out. Florida and Nevada are reachable. And 65% is about what Trump must do to win those states. Trump probably won't get 65% in Ohio unless he's landsliding, but he does not need to to win. Ohio is not a minority heavy state. A solid 60% will do it.

    Not a big fan of such reductionism--love for Trump to get a nationwide nationalist mandate--but realistically this election boils down to Florida, Pennsylvania and Ohio. (Pennsylvania which has been reliably Democrat in presidential elections, but was only 52-47 in 2012, is a state with very similar demographics to Ohio. It is diversifying rapidly but not yet highly minority, still a solidly white state. ) There are other plausible paths for Trump grabbing back some other whitetopia states along with retaking Virginia or Colorado, but they don't look very plausible. Basically Trump must hold the Romney map--which he should do--and win those three. Failure to do so, he's done.

    That Trump's "nationalism" has more appeal to midwestern working class whites than whatever you call the thin gruel Romney was serving, is certainly one reason the "cosmopolitan globalist" media has been all in to make him a beyond the pale racist.

    And I'd imagine that Hillary clinging to BLM is that she is worried about black turnout for her post-Obama. If blacks think "well that's over now" and lay back and smoke a cigarette ... Hillary would be road kill in those three critical states. Her firewall against the globalist media failing to scare white middle class women away from Trump is blacks turning out. If blacks are ho-hum about the election, Hillary loses FL, PA, OH and the election.
  63. iSteveFan says:

    Trent Lott telling an old Strom Thrumond at his birthday party that we should have elected him president and the media forced the GOP to remove Lott as Senate majority leader.

    David Duke giving an unsolicited endorsement to Donald Trump and the media attempted to force Trump to disavow and denounce Duke a couple hundred times.

    Hillary and Bill with actual relationships with people calling for the murder of whites and white cops and the media does nothing.

  64. @SPMoore8
    Just might be the dumbest tweet I've read in awhile: Jeffrey Goldberg weighs in on #BLM. Discuss!

    https://twitter.com/JeffreyGoldberg/status/752289907347906564

    I suspect that in 20 or 30 years, Black Lives Matter will be remembered the way most people think of the SCLC and the Freedom Riders today.— Jeffrey Goldberg (@JeffreyGoldberg) July 10, 2016

    Just might be the dumbest tweet I’ve read in awhile: Jeffrey Goldberg weighs in on #BLM. Discuss!

    All depends on who writes the history books and you want to place any bets?

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    I don't make bets, but I can give you many reasons why #BLM will never be compared to SCLC or Freedom Riders:

    1. SCLC/Freedom Riders had a specific goal: de-segregation. #BLM has no specific goal, it's just acting out about police violence.

    2. SCLC/Freedom Riders had specific agendas: enforcing the law. #BLM has no specific legislation in mind, it's not as though police officers are going to be disarmed, or something.

    3. SCLC/Freedom Riders were consistent: they wanted de-segregation, public accommodation, and voting rights for everyone. #BLM is fundamentally hypocritical, since they are outraged when blacks are killed by police, but they are unable to coordinate any activity to stop the vastly greater number of shootings in their neighborhoods.

    4. SCLC/Freedom riders were very deliberately presentable: clean cut, well dressed, and passive. #BLM is disruptive, violent, and has already engendered several riots and at least one mass shooting.

    5. SCLC/Freedom riders was driven by a mismatch of legal decisions and actual reality in the Deep South. #BLM is driven by the mismatch of PC equality expectations and the continuing laggard performance in many black communities, including crime, drugs, and as a result, much more jittery police response.

    In other words, SCLC/Freedom riders was a social phenomenon that was driven by a disconnect between laws as written and laws as administered. It actually helped achieve those goals.

    #BLM on the other hand is an epiphenomenon reaction to an epiphenomenon itself, namely, the number of black fatalities in police / black community incidents. But that violence is ultimately traceable to the failed state of too many black communities. That's the real problem. If #BLM wanted to address the real problem, they would work to fix that. Unless they listen to T. Genius, who insists there's nothing wrong with any black communities. So far, they have accomplished absolutely nothing positive. And I'm not holding my breath that it will.
  65. What if Hungary, or the U.S.A. after the Trumpening, were to arrest and prosecute George [email protected] for funding and inciting violence and discord in Western Nations? What would be the thoughts and reactions here? And what effects would that have globally? Putin seems to get it but then he has the crazy idea that his job is to do what’s best for Russia and Russians.

    (These comments are the expressed written views of the impending Trumpening and in no way reflect the opinions of Steve Sailer or Ron Unz)

  66. The election result is difficult to predict because it’s unknown how many Trump voters there are who can’t or won’t now support Trump in public.

    BLM’S behavior can only increase their number.

    • Replies: @Anon
    I'd crawl through a dumpster fire to vote for Trump. That said, I work for a very liberal software company. I tell everyone I know that I will vote for Hillary if they ask me point blank.
  67. When large blocks of society are given permission to hate other large blocks of society, and when that hate is actually considered righteous and virtuous, then how can anyone expect a good outcome? Hate and virtue are an irresistible cocktail for the human animal. They stimulate all kinds of gratification centers in our reptilian brain: desire for certainty, imposing your will on others, dominance, outgrouping, morality, social bonding, etc. In modern societies, many of these darker aspects of humanity are necessarily suppressed to keep peace and order.

    We’ve managed to create valves to let off some of this primal steam in sports and military. The problem of recent years is that weakness has been praised so much that people who are not good at sports or physical combat have become celebrated, which is not necessarily a bad thing in itself, but one of the offshoots is that they have been given soapboxes for moral grandstanding. And they have sided with “oppressed” groups who are very comfortable carrying out violence (inner-city youth, etc.).

    Most of history has been a struggle to sanction violence. The social justice movement isn’t even trying to hide that this is their goal any more.

    Witness a spokesperson for By Any Means Necessary (BAMN), that “militant, integrated” SJW group who shut down the Traditionalist Workers Party meeting in Sacramento last month. During her interview, with a ridiculously oversized bandage on her head, her face is beaming with ecstatic, righteous vigor that is a carbon copy of faces throughout history of religious zealots burning witches, beheading apostates, crucifying nonbelievers, etc., etc.

    View post on imgur.com

    • Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist
    Derbyshire commented on a Roissy post about "SJW face" that during the Maoist years, the Chinese had a sarcastic term that translated into "class struggle face".
  68. Steve, why would you expect differently.

    Look, I think that you and most of the people around here are great. Funny, astute, etc., etc. However, oddly, many of you all suffer from the same disease – at least in one sense – as the people that you criticize: You expect black people to act like white people.

    With everything that you know, why would you expect that?

    Black people are different than white people. They have different IQs. They have different emotions. They are different. Stop demanding that they act like white people in black face. This is who they are. Accept it or demand a separate space.

    Black people are no more going to act like white people that whites will act like Jews or Asians. We’re different. Now, sometimes those differences are fairly minor, allowing two groups to live together in reasonably harmony. Sadly, that’s not the case with blacks and, well, anybody.

    Steve, I realize that with your Citizenism, you’re trying to make the best of a bad situation and keep the country together in reasonable harmony. I applaud you for that. However, sometimes it just doesn’t work. Nation states work for a reason.

    You can no more get mad at blacks for acting black than I can get mad on my 9-year-old for acting like a 9-year-old. And, frankly, that’s what you sound like. You’re that father chastising their child for not acting like an adult. Step back for a minute and think about what you’re asking black people to do.

    Yes, black people acted better before the 1960s. But ask yourself why. Was it because they wanted to act that way, or because a world of hurt would come down on them if they acted the way that they wanted?

  69. anon • Disclaimer says:

    We had a march in my town today that I watched on the internet for a little while. And dang was that a raggedy looking bunch of people.

    They didn’t look like they would have the discipline to do anything much more than rant and rave at some march for a day or two after some hyped news story.

  70. OK, I get that Steve needs donations and I have been behind myself. Maybe this will help:

  71. Expecting decency from progs or their black pets. My side are dying.

    Steve, you’re stumbling your way towards the realization that these people are actually evil, slowly but surely.

  72. @Kylie
    "In the wake of five white cops being murdered at the Black Lives Matter rally in Dallas on Thursday, you might think that BLM would have taken the weekend off out of mourning (shame)."

    No chance I'd think that. I'm not as nice as you are. I

    Off-hand I can't think of anyone smarter than you (except Henry James, who was so smart he made sure he'd been dead for a century before this nonsense broke out). And yet, absent any evidence whatsoever, you repeatedly ascribe to the immoral and amoral the stringent moral precepts by which you apparently live your life.

    It's astonishing.

    I have no idea what you’re trying to say.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    Steve wrote: "In the wake of five white cops being murdered at the Black Lives Matter rally in Dallas on Thursday, you might think that BLM would have taken the weekend off out of mourning (shame)."

    I'm astonished that he would think this. He's extremely bright yet apparently he thinks a group of entitled, politicized blacks would respond with decorum to the murders of white cops by a black.

    Instead BLM doubled down on their protests--which is exactly what I expected.

    Hope that's clear enough.
  73. @Veracitor

    It seems that Hillary and Bill are so eager to agitate black Americans that they are willing to endorse explicit calls for race-based murder.

    Every time I turn around the Clintons have reached new lows in sleaziness. Is there no limit? How low can they go?

  74. Shame?

    Who would be doing the shaming?

    That’s why they were back at it already, because the national media will never shame them.

    Two-edged sword.

  75. @AnotherDad

    21.1% of Americans have IQs 85 or less.
     
    Lot, curious where you got this figure.

    I did a back-of-the-envelope myself:
    white 63% x 16% -> ~10
    black 13% x 50% -> ~6.5
    hispanic+native 17% x 30% -> ~5
    asian and random other -> ~0.5
    and came up with something in pretty much the same ballpark--22%.

    But haven't seen any site with a good table for distribution of IQ among Americans given all the racial diversity.

    Of course any way you slice it ... it's a ton of stupid folks. If we want to have a decent place to live we need to get on with policies that promote "eugenic" fertility.

    Lot, curious where you got this figure.

    National IQ of 97 with SD of 15 gives 21.1%.

    I did a back-of-the-envelope myself … and came up with something in pretty much the same ballpark–22%.

    Your method was slightly better, as I assumed national IQ SD of 15. True for whites, and close for other groups, but not exactly the same. Hispanics are a mixed group so probably a little higher than 15, with blacks well-documented to be a bit lower. Asians/PI and NA are probably 15.

    If we want to have a decent place to live we need to get on with policies that promote “eugenic” fertility.

    Eliminating the income tax marriage penalty would reduce the tax burden on upper middle class married people the most, e.g., the major source of eugenic fertility in the USA.

    Taxes on the super rich should also go up for two reasons. First, they don’t need it, and the upper middle class does. Second, their conspicuous consumption and status races make the upper middle class feel poorer and reduce their fertility as they try to rat-race/keep up with the Jones. Third, the super-rich are almost all well past their fertile years.

    Eugenic immigration policy of course is obvious.

    What would be the effect of a Muslim ban? As far as I can tell, in every part of the world Muslims have lower IQ then surrounding non-Muslims. Albanians have the lowest in Europe and Afghans are by far the lowest-IQ light-Caucasian group. In South Asia, Southeast Asia, the Horn of Africa, Nigeria, and the Middle East, non-Muslims groups all out-perform nearby Muslims groups.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    "Taxes on the super rich should also go up for two reasons. First, they don’t need it, and the upper middle class does. Second, their conspicuous consumption and status races make the upper middle class feel poorer and reduce their fertility as they try to rat-race/keep up with the Jones."

    I completely agree with this.
  76. @Kylie
    "In the wake of five white cops being murdered at the Black Lives Matter rally in Dallas on Thursday, you might think that BLM would have taken the weekend off out of mourning (shame)."

    No chance I'd think that. I'm not as nice as you are. I

    Off-hand I can't think of anyone smarter than you (except Henry James, who was so smart he made sure he'd been dead for a century before this nonsense broke out). And yet, absent any evidence whatsoever, you repeatedly ascribe to the immoral and amoral the stringent moral precepts by which you apparently live your life.

    It's astonishing.

    Our host writes as though he assumes a modicum of common decency in our quarry exactly to highlight its manifest absence. He’s hardly as naive as his rhetorical style might suggest on its face.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Kylie
    I think you ascribe to our host a disingenuousness quite foreign to his nature.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    I don't like to suggest that some commenters are 'spergy, but the tendency to answer rhetorical questions as if they were actual questions raises that suspicion. When you say, "Sir, have you no decency?" the implication is that the person you're addressing has no decency, not that you can't figure out whether he has decency or not.
  77. @SPMoore8
    Just might be the dumbest tweet I've read in awhile: Jeffrey Goldberg weighs in on #BLM. Discuss!

    https://twitter.com/JeffreyGoldberg/status/752289907347906564

    Jeffrey Goldberg is angling to be President Hillary’s pet Likudnik. He has to be nice to the rest of Team Hillary.

  78. the black – jewish coalition — a natural: both play the victim card into perpetuity, and both play what follows naturally, the entitlement game to the last red cent. racism and anti-semitism aren’t excuses for those who accept that the game of life deals uneven hands and players pay their own way.

  79. @duderino
    I wonder what's going on in the minds of Scandinavians in Minnesota right now. It'll be interesting to see what level of diversity would cause a shift to the right.

    Minnesota has already “absorbed” 25,000 Somali migrants and “refugees” most all Muslim, with many in the suburbs. Many sponsored by Minnesota Christian churches.

    • Replies: @pink_point
    If you ask those Somali why they should be in the US instead of Somalia, you'll hear "Because colonialism" as the most likely response.
    , @Alice
    Except at the recent ISIS trial, the number was 200k. 200k Somalis.

    The Somalis on trial didn't have anything polite to say about urban Black America either. They were easy to use, they said. Easy to buy off. Lazy.
  80. @Lot
    Zerohedge is sometimes fun to read, but you can't cite it because it is mostly clickbait trash. If it does ever have a credibly sourced article, cite the article's sources directly.

    Suppressing your party's embarrassing elements is an important test of a presidential candidate demonstrating leadership ability. Hillary is failing it badly.

    The most trusted brand in political and PAC contributions lists Black Lives Matter as a PAC with $250 raised in this cycle. Does that sound even remotely possible to you?

    https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?cycle=2016&strID=C00595751

  81. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @wren
    If the narrative about the guys killed in Minnesota and Louisiana falls apart, as it appears to be doing, I hope that the media takes notice.

    One was a blood and one was a crip?

    This whole situation is very sad and frustrating.

    I hope that the media takes notice.

    The media is deliberately inciting it.

    If they reported non-black victims of police shootings then the media’s narrative – that blacks are being specifically targeted – collapses, and it’s that lie which they have been pumping into the heads of 85 IQ adult children that is getting lots of people killed.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "The media is deliberately inciting it.

    If they reported non-black victims of police shootings then the media’s narrative – that blacks are being specifically targeted – collapses, and it’s that lie which they have been pumping into the heads of 85 IQ adult children that is getting lots of people killed."

    My theory is that the mainstream media believe White victims of police killings all deserved what they got, hence why they don't report on it.
  82. @AndrewR
    I have no idea what you're trying to say.

    Steve wrote: “In the wake of five white cops being murdered at the Black Lives Matter rally in Dallas on Thursday, you might think that BLM would have taken the weekend off out of mourning (shame).”

    I’m astonished that he would think this. He’s extremely bright yet apparently he thinks a group of entitled, politicized blacks would respond with decorum to the murders of white cops by a black.

    Instead BLM doubled down on their protests–which is exactly what I expected.

    Hope that’s clear enough.

    • Agree: Jack Hanson
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    I assumed he was being sarcastic.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    You don't recognize rhetorical questions or the rhetorical use of sarcasm. You think our host is naive or missing the point because he doesn't state it in a blunt and non-linear manner. This tendency is common among people on the spectrum. It's one of those blind spots that causes you to think other people have a problem when actually you're the one who does.

    I'm not trying to be insulting or sarcastic. One of my daughters has Non-Verbal Learning Disability (NLD) so I recognize it in others.

  83. @L Woods
    Our host writes as though he assumes a modicum of common decency in our quarry exactly to highlight its manifest absence. He's hardly as naive as his rhetorical style might suggest on its face.

    I think you ascribe to our host a disingenuousness quite foreign to his nature.

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yep. I've been reading Sailer for many years now. He's a remarkably earnest human being, and, needless to say, a far better person than myself in just about every way.

    However, my guess is that his prescriptions for the country are too late. The Goths crossed the Danube a while back, and we're all just making fun of the emperor and senate before the fall.

    Of course, that fall will take a long time and who knows what it will look like, so what exactly are we supposed to do. But let's not fool ourselves that we're making a difference.
  84. @SPMoore8
    Just might be the dumbest tweet I've read in awhile: Jeffrey Goldberg weighs in on #BLM. Discuss!

    https://twitter.com/JeffreyGoldberg/status/752289907347906564

    Now I have to completely re-assess the Freedom Riders and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. Is Mr. Goldberg saying they were radical, racist, terror-inducing, former Nazi-financed law-breakers?

  85. @Clyde

    I suspect that in 20 or 30 years, Black Lives Matter will be remembered the way most people think of the SCLC and the Freedom Riders today.— Jeffrey Goldberg (@JeffreyGoldberg) July 10, 2016
     

    Just might be the dumbest tweet I’ve read in awhile: Jeffrey Goldberg weighs in on #BLM. Discuss!
     
    All depends on who writes the history books and you want to place any bets?

    I don’t make bets, but I can give you many reasons why #BLM will never be compared to SCLC or Freedom Riders:

    1. SCLC/Freedom Riders had a specific goal: de-segregation. #BLM has no specific goal, it’s just acting out about police violence.

    2. SCLC/Freedom Riders had specific agendas: enforcing the law. #BLM has no specific legislation in mind, it’s not as though police officers are going to be disarmed, or something.

    3. SCLC/Freedom Riders were consistent: they wanted de-segregation, public accommodation, and voting rights for everyone. #BLM is fundamentally hypocritical, since they are outraged when blacks are killed by police, but they are unable to coordinate any activity to stop the vastly greater number of shootings in their neighborhoods.

    4. SCLC/Freedom riders were very deliberately presentable: clean cut, well dressed, and passive. #BLM is disruptive, violent, and has already engendered several riots and at least one mass shooting.

    5. SCLC/Freedom riders was driven by a mismatch of legal decisions and actual reality in the Deep South. #BLM is driven by the mismatch of PC equality expectations and the continuing laggard performance in many black communities, including crime, drugs, and as a result, much more jittery police response.

    In other words, SCLC/Freedom riders was a social phenomenon that was driven by a disconnect between laws as written and laws as administered. It actually helped achieve those goals.

    #BLM on the other hand is an epiphenomenon reaction to an epiphenomenon itself, namely, the number of black fatalities in police / black community incidents. But that violence is ultimately traceable to the failed state of too many black communities. That’s the real problem. If #BLM wanted to address the real problem, they would work to fix that. Unless they listen to T. Genius, who insists there’s nothing wrong with any black communities. So far, they have accomplished absolutely nothing positive. And I’m not holding my breath that it will.

  86. @SPMoore8
    Just might be the dumbest tweet I've read in awhile: Jeffrey Goldberg weighs in on #BLM. Discuss!

    https://twitter.com/JeffreyGoldberg/status/752289907347906564

    Not dumb, evil.

    They know black people aren’t being specifically targeted and their lies are getting lots of people killed – but not them because the media filth live somewhere safe.

    Everyone who works for the media is scum.

  87. “Hillary has been playing with fire.”

    And there’s still plenty left to go of this long, hot summer.

  88. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    Lot, curious where you got this figure.
     
    National IQ of 97 with SD of 15 gives 21.1%.

    I did a back-of-the-envelope myself ... and came up with something in pretty much the same ballpark–22%.
     
    Your method was slightly better, as I assumed national IQ SD of 15. True for whites, and close for other groups, but not exactly the same. Hispanics are a mixed group so probably a little higher than 15, with blacks well-documented to be a bit lower. Asians/PI and NA are probably 15.

    If we want to have a decent place to live we need to get on with policies that promote “eugenic” fertility.
     
    Eliminating the income tax marriage penalty would reduce the tax burden on upper middle class married people the most, e.g., the major source of eugenic fertility in the USA.

    Taxes on the super rich should also go up for two reasons. First, they don't need it, and the upper middle class does. Second, their conspicuous consumption and status races make the upper middle class feel poorer and reduce their fertility as they try to rat-race/keep up with the Jones. Third, the super-rich are almost all well past their fertile years.

    Eugenic immigration policy of course is obvious.

    What would be the effect of a Muslim ban? As far as I can tell, in every part of the world Muslims have lower IQ then surrounding non-Muslims. Albanians have the lowest in Europe and Afghans are by far the lowest-IQ light-Caucasian group. In South Asia, Southeast Asia, the Horn of Africa, Nigeria, and the Middle East, non-Muslims groups all out-perform nearby Muslims groups.

    “Taxes on the super rich should also go up for two reasons. First, they don’t need it, and the upper middle class does. Second, their conspicuous consumption and status races make the upper middle class feel poorer and reduce their fertility as they try to rat-race/keep up with the Jones.”

    I completely agree with this.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    No, income taxes should not go up on anyone.

    However, stiff luxury imported goods tariffs high dollar on cars and other imported high end luxuries should be instituted. A new Bugatti Veyron should carry a tariff of at least thirty percent, maybe more. Veblen goods-conspicuous consumption-should carry conspicuous taxation as well.
  89. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yep, I'm from the upper Midwest and lived in MN. It'll take a lot more to get Goodwhite Minnesotans to start questioning their beliefs. They'll ignore the problem until it's literally on their doorstep.

    The vast majority of upper-middle class whites aren't even in the same universe as the people around here. We've got a long, long way to go.

    You mean the MN upper-middle, and upper class have had no changes in their life, safery, …, until now?

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    I doubt that the upper middle class in the Twin Cities has had any change in their safety even now. That's my point.

    Upper Midwest people are very good people. They don't want trouble, and they have a remarkable believe in authority. And right now, the authority - government, media and academia - is telling them that black and Hispanic problems are the result of racism, so they say, "Well, OK, then, I guess is it's that racism thing-a-ma-jig that's causing all the problems. We should do are darndest to fix it."

    I'm saying that as long as the media, government and academia remain leftest strongholds, people from the upper Midwest will hold out to the bitter end before changing their views. They're not stupid; they're just rule followers.
    , @Alice
    They have, but they keep not wanting to admit it.

    When the going gets tough here, they go to the lake.

    Really. Their heart is at the lake, and at the lake there aren't Somali terrorists or urban black youth rioting. Their cabin doors are still unlocked and nothing is stolen.

    But at home, their kids are getting knocked up before marriage, and they are doing more drugs. They can't save their grandkids from the world of Fishwrap, so to speak. They can't get their kids into the U (of MN) anymore and many have to go to some crummy community college.

    They are sad there aren't varsity Hockey teams at urban and first-ring-suburb high schools anymore, but they don't admit why.

    Things are changing quickly now. But they can't ever not vote Dem, and their Dems are beyond left.


    Historically, the Jews and the Catholics, esp. Ethnic Europeans, settled predominantly on Eastern side of the Mississippi River or that reason. One neighborhood on the western side of Minneapolis became the center of Jewish life.
    , @guest
    "until now?"

    Not even now. I tell you, black unrest and violence barely touches us, especially the upper strata. They mostly injure themselves, occasionally some property or the police. It'll have to ramp up a hundred more notches until you convert any democratic farm labor goodthinkers.
  90. @CCZ
    Minnesota has already "absorbed" 25,000 Somali migrants and "refugees" most all Muslim, with many in the suburbs. Many sponsored by Minnesota Christian churches.

    If you ask those Somali why they should be in the US instead of Somalia, you’ll hear “Because colonialism” as the most likely response.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    Fine. Off to England, France and Italy with them.
  91. @Kylie
    Steve wrote: "In the wake of five white cops being murdered at the Black Lives Matter rally in Dallas on Thursday, you might think that BLM would have taken the weekend off out of mourning (shame)."

    I'm astonished that he would think this. He's extremely bright yet apparently he thinks a group of entitled, politicized blacks would respond with decorum to the murders of white cops by a black.

    Instead BLM doubled down on their protests--which is exactly what I expected.

    Hope that's clear enough.

    I assumed he was being sarcastic.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    Based on Steve's advocacy of "citizenism", among other things, I assumed he was not.
  92. @wren
    If the narrative about the guys killed in Minnesota and Louisiana falls apart, as it appears to be doing, I hope that the media takes notice.

    One was a blood and one was a crip?

    This whole situation is very sad and frustrating.

    Where is it being revealed that the guy in Minnesota was a gang member?

    • Replies: @wren
    http://gotnews.com/breaking-philandocastile-falconheightsshooting-crips-gangmember/

    There is plenty more around too.

    He certainly was not the school children's role model that the MSM narrative portrayed him as.

    Even I fell for it this time.

    He does seem to be more decent than the guy in Louisiana, however.

    http://www.allenbwest.com/matt-palumbo/heres-what-liberals-dont-want-you-to-know-about-louisiana-shooting-victim

  93. @anon

    I hope that the media takes notice.
     
    The media is deliberately inciting it.

    If they reported non-black victims of police shootings then the media's narrative - that blacks are being specifically targeted - collapses, and it's that lie which they have been pumping into the heads of 85 IQ adult children that is getting lots of people killed.

    “The media is deliberately inciting it.

    If they reported non-black victims of police shootings then the media’s narrative – that blacks are being specifically targeted – collapses, and it’s that lie which they have been pumping into the heads of 85 IQ adult children that is getting lots of people killed.”

    My theory is that the mainstream media believe White victims of police killings all deserved what they got, hence why they don’t report on it.

  94. fnn says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yep, I'm from the upper Midwest and lived in MN. It'll take a lot more to get Goodwhite Minnesotans to start questioning their beliefs. They'll ignore the problem until it's literally on their doorstep.

    The vast majority of upper-middle class whites aren't even in the same universe as the people around here. We've got a long, long way to go.

    Yep, I’m from the upper Midwest and lived in MN. It’ll take a lot more to get Goodwhite Minnesotans to start questioning their beliefs.

    Seriously, does anyone know why they were once so anti-Semitic:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Minneapolis#Politics.2C_corruption.2C_anti-Semitism_and_social_change

    Minneapolis was known for anti-Semitism beginning in the 1880s and through the 1950s.[29] The city was described as “the capital of anti-Semitism in the United States” in 1946 by Carey McWilliams[30] and in 1959 by Gunther Plaut.[31] At that time the city’s Jews were excluded from membership in many organizations, faced employment discrimination, and were considered unwelcome residents in some neighborhoods.[32] Jews in Minneapolis were also not allowed to buy homes in certain neighborhoods of Minneapolis.[33]

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Tell that to the Cohen brothers and Bob Dylan.
  95. @Buffalo Joe
    I really could care less about BLM, what concerns me more, much more, is the MSM's lack of balanced coverage of the three separate events last week. I know the names and have met the family's of the two men shot dead by the police. I won't mention their names but I am absolutely sure you know them, just like the names of Travone Martin, Eric Gardner and Michael Brown are stuck in your head. When Freddie Gray died in police custody we had a photo line up of the six cops accused of murdering him. Now, without a Google assist, name one of the six Dallas cops shot and killed last week. I saw the sickening photo stills, from a security video, that showed one of the officers trying to hide behind a concrete pillar before being gunned down, and then shot again while he is prone. Didn't see it? I wonder why?

    Wren, Sorry, met them on TV.

  96. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Rather off topic but possibly inspiring. I just had dinner with half a dozen small town Canadians. Naturally, they were interested in hearing what an American thought of the news in the last week and of Trump. I said a lot, much of it derived from what people say here. At first, they seemed shocked but as the evening went on, they started finding examples in Canada of the types of problems I’d described. “Trudeau is a glib moron that will bankrupt the country by importing Syrians”, “Immigrants want everything free until they can figure out how to earn it in a generation or two”, “after two decades of everyone wanting to move to Toronto, all the white people are starting to move out to get away from the diversity” for example. And by the end they were hoping someone like Trump will be found in Canada.

    I grew up here and I have never heard Canadians sound so wholesomely exasperated. They did need to be encouraged by example to say what they felt, but if these people voice support for someone like Trump, Hillary has likely lost a big chunk of the white Democratic vote in the US.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    David, I live across the river from Canada, so we see a lot of Canadians down here. I was collecting parking at a charity event and a car with Ontario plates pulled up. The lady driver handed me a US dollar, I took it, looked at her and handed it back saying...." Here keep this, it is actually still worth something, and with Trudeau in charge you'll need every cent you can get. " She looked at me and said "Thanks, isn't that the truth." I read an article in the Toronto Globe and Mail about BLM/Canada disrupting the Pride Parade in Toronto. They had a linked article by a BLM/activist who defended their actions in halting the parade. She said, " Canada has a long violent history...", which is a total rewrite of Canadian history, but the mind set of these people.
  97. @CJ
    The Daily Mail continues its standard of being the only big-budget investigative journalism in America.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3682619/Pictured-female-soldier-pervert-Dallas-cop-killer-sexually-harassed-colleague-reveals-murderer-used-steal-girls-panties.html

    Executive Summary:

    The female soldier Micah X. Johnson harassed is a Chinese-American. He was a serious horndog who stole panties from female personnel in Afghanistan. Lotsa pix.

    I don’t blame the guy for that so much as I blame the military for putting women in the war zones. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

    • Replies: @L Woods
    Women take notorious advantage of being heavily outnumbered by the opposite sex on deployment. I take any accusation of "sexual harassment" with a very hefty grain of salt. That said, this guy's case may be in the minority that actually holds some merit.
  98. I’m curious Sailer how long do you think you can make a buck dancing around the only solution there is to the race war already underway ? Do you want to go to the stars or sink into the stone age ?

  99. @AndrewR
    I assumed he was being sarcastic.

    Based on Steve’s advocacy of “citizenism”, among other things, I assumed he was not.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    I think Steve is liberal enough to want blacks to have the same rights that we do but conservative enough to understand that, as a group, blacks are not capable of fulfilling the responsibilities that accompany those rights.

    At least that's my personal conundrum.

  100. you have to be impressed with the ability of Blacks to set the national agenda. And to do it in an emperor has no clothes kind of way. One of the weird things is successful Blacks have no problems with the police. And yet they are in complete alliance with the dysfunctional Blacks. Which is the opposite of how Whites behave. Successful Whites have no sympathy for White trash.

    • Replies: @anon
    They're not setting the national agenda.

    The media are manipulating them into violence by pretending that only black people get shot by police.

    The media are setting the agenda.
    , @guest
    That's like saying I have to be impressed by spoiled brats who have their way with indulgent parents. No, they're bad parents, is all.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Steve R, Successful blacks, who get media face time, love to tell how they were profiled for driving while black or followed by store security while strolling through a Banana Republic store. That's called ' keepin' it real" with the common folk.
  101. @Kylie
    I think you ascribe to our host a disingenuousness quite foreign to his nature.

    Yep. I’ve been reading Sailer for many years now. He’s a remarkably earnest human being, and, needless to say, a far better person than myself in just about every way.

    However, my guess is that his prescriptions for the country are too late. The Goths crossed the Danube a while back, and we’re all just making fun of the emperor and senate before the fall.

    Of course, that fall will take a long time and who knows what it will look like, so what exactly are we supposed to do. But let’s not fool ourselves that we’re making a difference.

    • Replies: @wren

    He’s a remarkably earnest human being
     
    Well, he is Steve Ernest Sailer, after all.
  102. @fnn

    Yep, I’m from the upper Midwest and lived in MN. It’ll take a lot more to get Goodwhite Minnesotans to start questioning their beliefs.
     
    Seriously, does anyone know why they were once so anti-Semitic:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Minneapolis#Politics.2C_corruption.2C_anti-Semitism_and_social_change

    Minneapolis was known for anti-Semitism beginning in the 1880s and through the 1950s.[29] The city was described as "the capital of anti-Semitism in the United States" in 1946 by Carey McWilliams[30] and in 1959 by Gunther Plaut.[31] At that time the city's Jews were excluded from membership in many organizations, faced employment discrimination, and were considered unwelcome residents in some neighborhoods.[32] Jews in Minneapolis were also not allowed to buy homes in certain neighborhoods of Minneapolis.[33]
     

    Tell that to the Cohen brothers and Bob Dylan.

    • Replies: @fnn
    OK. you know no more than I do.
  103. Hillary has been playing with fire

    But she looks fine for an old woman.

  104. @Olorin
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2PSa3AzxskQ/T6ww3aqpaWI/AAAAAAAAJQU/E32VFSHOamU/s1600/group-differences.jpg

    % of population distributed at IQ 85 and lower:

    44% of blacks
    34% of Hispanics
    13% of whites
    8 % of Asians

    Source for that (AlFin) drew from Gottfredson and similar studies.

    Politicians aren't pitching to them; they don't vote as much. They pitch to those who keep them as virtue-signaling pets.

    % of population distributed at IQ 85 and lower:

    44% of blacks
    34% of Hispanics
    13% of whites
    8 % of Asians


    00% of Jews
    wkwkwkwkwkwkw
    kwk

  105. @CCZ
    Minnesota has already "absorbed" 25,000 Somali migrants and "refugees" most all Muslim, with many in the suburbs. Many sponsored by Minnesota Christian churches.

    Except at the recent ISIS trial, the number was 200k. 200k Somalis.

    The Somalis on trial didn’t have anything polite to say about urban Black America either. They were easy to use, they said. Easy to buy off. Lazy.

  106. @pink_point
    You mean the MN upper-middle, and upper class have had no changes in their life, safery, ..., until now?

    I doubt that the upper middle class in the Twin Cities has had any change in their safety even now. That’s my point.

    Upper Midwest people are very good people. They don’t want trouble, and they have a remarkable believe in authority. And right now, the authority – government, media and academia – is telling them that black and Hispanic problems are the result of racism, so they say, “Well, OK, then, I guess is it’s that racism thing-a-ma-jig that’s causing all the problems. We should do are darndest to fix it.”

    I’m saying that as long as the media, government and academia remain leftest strongholds, people from the upper Midwest will hold out to the bitter end before changing their views. They’re not stupid; they’re just rule followers.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    “Well, OK, then, I guess is it’s that racism thing-a-ma-jig that’s causing all the problems. We should do our darndest to fix it.”

    Behold the inner workings of the Upper Midwestern mind:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCLrb8jLkyU

    In Lake Wobegon, many of the children now have above-average levels of melanin. Soon all of them will.
    , @Jack Hanson
    "Following the rules" and marching into a burning house because the rules say so is indeed, stupid.
  107. @Lot
    Question for Hillary:

    Is closing down interstate highways and multiple downtown arterial roads OK?


    She really needs to answer this question.

    She doesn’t answer questions from plebs.

  108. Nobody here remembers this man but never the less give him a moment .

    I was in search of a good time , just running my game .

  109. @Kylie
    Based on Steve's advocacy of "citizenism", among other things, I assumed he was not.

    I think Steve is liberal enough to want blacks to have the same rights that we do but conservative enough to understand that, as a group, blacks are not capable of fulfilling the responsibilities that accompany those rights.

    At least that’s my personal conundrum.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    Totally agree.

    I also want blacks to have the same rights as we do. And I also understand that, as a group, blacks are not capable of fulfilling the responsibilities that accompany those rights.

    That's why I think that we and blacks should be enjoying our rights in totally separate locations. I can say honestly that if all blacks lived in Africa and somehow managed to establish a pleasant prosperous society there, I would be happy for them. I'd be happy if all blacks were in Africa living in nicer houses than mine (which is saying a lot because I'm house proud).

    I'm not happy with our current living arrangements and never will be.
  110. @AndrewR
    Expecting blacks as a group to feel shame is invariably a fool's errand.

    This all could hardly have come at a better time for Hillary.

    She's added fuel to the fire by lecturing whites about our supposed responsibilities towards blacks without any sort of reciprocation.

    To the 2016 Democrat, whites have only responsibilities and blacks have only rights.

    I wonder if the Dems condone/justify this behavior because they don’t want us to quit paying for them with our generous govt programs. They have no skills or jobs. How else will they get $$$.
    If the silent majority, now supporting Trump, wants to get rid of the expense of illegal immigrants, how long until we revolt against paying for these useless leeches ?

  111. @Blah
    Where is it being revealed that the guy in Minnesota was a gang member?

    http://gotnews.com/breaking-philandocastile-falconheightsshooting-crips-gangmember/

    There is plenty more around too.

    He certainly was not the school children’s role model that the MSM narrative portrayed him as.

    Even I fell for it this time.

    He does seem to be more decent than the guy in Louisiana, however.

    http://www.allenbwest.com/matt-palumbo/heres-what-liberals-dont-want-you-to-know-about-louisiana-shooting-victim

  112. @pink_point
    You mean the MN upper-middle, and upper class have had no changes in their life, safery, ..., until now?

    They have, but they keep not wanting to admit it.

    When the going gets tough here, they go to the lake.

    Really. Their heart is at the lake, and at the lake there aren’t Somali terrorists or urban black youth rioting. Their cabin doors are still unlocked and nothing is stolen.

    But at home, their kids are getting knocked up before marriage, and they are doing more drugs. They can’t save their grandkids from the world of Fishwrap, so to speak. They can’t get their kids into the U (of MN) anymore and many have to go to some crummy community college.

    They are sad there aren’t varsity Hockey teams at urban and first-ring-suburb high schools anymore, but they don’t admit why.

    Things are changing quickly now. But they can’t ever not vote Dem, and their Dems are beyond left.

    Historically, the Jews and the Catholics, esp. Ethnic Europeans, settled predominantly on Eastern side of the Mississippi River or that reason. One neighborhood on the western side of Minneapolis became the center of Jewish life.

  113. @Yak-15
    I don't blame the guy for that so much as I blame the military for putting women in the war zones. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

    Women take notorious advantage of being heavily outnumbered by the opposite sex on deployment. I take any accusation of “sexual harassment” with a very hefty grain of salt. That said, this guy’s case may be in the minority that actually holds some merit.

  114. let’s not forget this :

  115. @AnotherDad

    21.1% of Americans have IQs 85 or less.
     
    Lot, curious where you got this figure.

    I did a back-of-the-envelope myself:
    white 63% x 16% -> ~10
    black 13% x 50% -> ~6.5
    hispanic+native 17% x 30% -> ~5
    asian and random other -> ~0.5
    and came up with something in pretty much the same ballpark--22%.

    But haven't seen any site with a good table for distribution of IQ among Americans given all the racial diversity.

    Of course any way you slice it ... it's a ton of stupid folks. If we want to have a decent place to live we need to get on with policies that promote "eugenic" fertility.

    Of course any way you slice it … it’s a ton of stupid folks. If we want to have a decent place to live we need to get on with policies that promote “eugenic” fertility.

    Nothing could be more obvious- or more likely to get anyone advocating it considered a Nazi.

  116. @Steve Richter
    you have to be impressed with the ability of Blacks to set the national agenda. And to do it in an emperor has no clothes kind of way. One of the weird things is successful Blacks have no problems with the police. And yet they are in complete alliance with the dysfunctional Blacks. Which is the opposite of how Whites behave. Successful Whites have no sympathy for White trash.

    They’re not setting the national agenda.

    The media are manipulating them into violence by pretending that only black people get shot by police.

    The media are setting the agenda.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    Agree wholeheartedly. It is deliberate and there is more to it than simply inciting blacks to riot. Part of the narrative the media is pushing seems intended for whites to "choose a side," so they will eventually accept militarized law enforcement with the right to harass taxpayers at every turn. The police response to Dallas around here has been to amp up their visible presence. I've only seen white people getting pulled over, and I live in an area that's almost half black. I was pulled over for a BS "rolling stop" charge and the cop had the nerve to bring up Dallas like that was some cue to grovel. He asked if I had weapons on me and made me keep my hands on the wheel for a bit. I'm a white woman in my 20s driving a nice, nondescript car. I was polite even though I was annoyed and he was pretty aggressive. I just knew extra policing of "easy targets" would be the result of BLM nonsense. Had a feeling.

    Meanwhile I've seen a black guy driving a pick-up with two huge black nationalist flags flying off the back. A first, even for around here.

    The situation over the past few days has me researching shootings by cops. Other than Castile, the most ridiculous shootings have involved whites.

    A mentally ill white woman in Alabama was killed for having a pocket knife after pulling over on a deserted road. She was 5'0 and there were 4 officers, yet she supposedly had them "in fear for their life." Her family had been the ones who called the police on her, because they thought she was suicidal when she drove away from their home. Some years ago a white, naked college student on LSD was shot by a campus cop in Alabama.

    The end result of all this will be more affirmative action for blacks and other assorted minorities who are able to hitch themselves to the legacy of slavery, and a more submissive, law-enforcement/military worshipping white population. A win for the elites.
  117. @Anonymous
    "Taxes on the super rich should also go up for two reasons. First, they don’t need it, and the upper middle class does. Second, their conspicuous consumption and status races make the upper middle class feel poorer and reduce their fertility as they try to rat-race/keep up with the Jones."

    I completely agree with this.

    No, income taxes should not go up on anyone.

    However, stiff luxury imported goods tariffs high dollar on cars and other imported high end luxuries should be instituted. A new Bugatti Veyron should carry a tariff of at least thirty percent, maybe more. Veblen goods-conspicuous consumption-should carry conspicuous taxation as well.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    No.

    Tariffs should be levied on any imported goods commensurate with the reciprocal tariffs imposed for any American goods (exempting entertainment goods such as movies, music, Obama-authored books, etc.) exported to the country of origin.

    Managed trade, and tariffs, for all goods - not just luxury goods.
  118. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yep. I've been reading Sailer for many years now. He's a remarkably earnest human being, and, needless to say, a far better person than myself in just about every way.

    However, my guess is that his prescriptions for the country are too late. The Goths crossed the Danube a while back, and we're all just making fun of the emperor and senate before the fall.

    Of course, that fall will take a long time and who knows what it will look like, so what exactly are we supposed to do. But let's not fool ourselves that we're making a difference.

    He’s a remarkably earnest human being

    Well, he is Steve Ernest Sailer, after all.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I should title my autobiography "The Importance of Being Ernest."
  119. @Tipo 61
    The election result is difficult to predict because it's unknown how many Trump voters there are who can't or won't now support Trump in public.

    BLM'S behavior can only increase their number.

    I’d crawl through a dumpster fire to vote for Trump. That said, I work for a very liberal software company. I tell everyone I know that I will vote for Hillary if they ask me point blank.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    You spineless weasel! Have you no balls, sir?

    (Yeah, I've done that before, as well.)

    When folks who I cannot afford to piss off start ranting about Trump and ask me for my thoughts, I say something like, "Everything he does is driven by his ego. The campaign is a total freak show." Or I make fun of his hair. Or I ask if they've seen the Japanese Trump commercial on YouTube. If they say they haven't, I show it to them.

    Technically, I never lie. I do believe that Trump is driven by his ego, and I do believe that any national election in the zeitgeist of July 2016 - the summer of BLM and tranny-Rechten-über-alles - can't help but be a freak show. And his hair is most make-fun-able, is it not? And that YouTube clip is nothing if not a Rorschach test.

    (Note that I say the campaign and not his campaign.)

    I never say, in so many words, "I'm not voting for Trump." I never have to say it. (If I did have to say it, for the sake of my own bottom line, then I would.)

    It's not that hard to fool RightThinkers into thinking that you're on their side without ever explicitly saying that you are.

    , @AnotherDad

    I’d crawl through a dumpster fire to vote for Trump. That said, I work for a very liberal software company. I tell everyone I know that I will vote for Hillary if they ask me point blank.
     
    Don't do this. I'm not saying wear your "Make America Great Again" cap around, like i do. But stand up for yourself. The SJW mentality is like mushrooms or fungus, it thrives in an environment without much light. It thrives by forcing conformity and making everyone believe that only SJW thinking is acceptable.

    You may think everyone is nonetheless thinking their own independent thoughts. But it doesn't work that way. People--when there is no alternative--conform. Particularly women.

    Here's my suggestion, for dealing with a general hostile environment. Don't push, but be open if asked. And have some *very simple* explanations, that cut through the bullshit:

    -- "I'm not a self hating white man."

    -- "I want to pass on to my kids the sort of America i had"
    Extended: "White nations are nice--as you can see by all the non-white people trying to break into them. I want my kids to grow up in one."

    -- "I think every American deserves a job, even people who don't have high IQs and don't go to college. Illegal immigration takes away *their* working class jobs, while making the rich, richer.

    -- "Open immigration is heading us toward being Brazil. The rich, super rich. The poor super poor. That sucks. I want a middle class society."

    -- "I think American kids graduation college, deserve American jobs".

    -- "Automation, AI, robotics is going to destroy a lot of low-skill jobs in the next generation. Importing lots of low skill labor is insane. That's just more people who are going to be on welfare."

    -- "We are already at 325 million people. as many as when i was born. Headed to 400 million before mid-century. We'll be at half a *billion*! by the end of the century if we don't *stop* importing more people. Do you want all that crowding? Sprawl? Sky high housing prices? Seriously? How many people do you want. Want us packed in like India and China? When does it stop?"

    -- "Obama and Hillary have been shit stirring black racial anger with this BLM nonsense. Yes, the police do screw up occasionally but this race stuff is nonsense. The cops kill more whites than blacks. Obama and Hillary's shit stirring is led a big--15% or so--bump in violent crime--thousands more robberies, rapes and murders. All to stoke black anger and gin up votes for Democrats. You think that's ok? Is that help? Is that public 'leadership'? I think it's evil."

    -- "Hillary is the most corrupt candidate either party has ever fielded. She's openly run her Clinton Foundation shakedown to get rich. She setup a private email server specifically to cheat around the Freedom of Information Act law--so she could escape her own blundering and sleaze. She's a bought and paid for whore for Wall Street, for Goldman Sachs. I'm not rich finance scum, why should i vote for her?"

    ~
    There, i got you started. Make up your own. Just think through a few quick canned answers you can give that pithily get your point across which having to download the dialectical dissertation that led you to be a Trump guy.

    But don't let their evil SJW bullshit go unchallenged. Every red-blooded white man--and actually any colored man that likes living in a Western nation--must stand up to this cabal of crazy feminine stupidity and push reality back in their faces ... or we're simply doomed to get washed over the cliff in the SJW flood.

  120. @Flinders Petrie
    When large blocks of society are given permission to hate other large blocks of society, and when that hate is actually considered righteous and virtuous, then how can anyone expect a good outcome? Hate and virtue are an irresistible cocktail for the human animal. They stimulate all kinds of gratification centers in our reptilian brain: desire for certainty, imposing your will on others, dominance, outgrouping, morality, social bonding, etc. In modern societies, many of these darker aspects of humanity are necessarily suppressed to keep peace and order.

    We've managed to create valves to let off some of this primal steam in sports and military. The problem of recent years is that weakness has been praised so much that people who are not good at sports or physical combat have become celebrated, which is not necessarily a bad thing in itself, but one of the offshoots is that they have been given soapboxes for moral grandstanding. And they have sided with "oppressed" groups who are very comfortable carrying out violence (inner-city youth, etc.).

    Most of history has been a struggle to sanction violence. The social justice movement isn't even trying to hide that this is their goal any more.

    Witness a spokesperson for By Any Means Necessary (BAMN), that "militant, integrated" SJW group who shut down the Traditionalist Workers Party meeting in Sacramento last month. During her interview, with a ridiculously oversized bandage on her head, her face is beaming with ecstatic, righteous vigor that is a carbon copy of faces throughout history of religious zealots burning witches, beheading apostates, crucifying nonbelievers, etc., etc.

    http://imgur.com/FD8B4Z2

    Derbyshire commented on a Roissy post about “SJW face” that during the Maoist years, the Chinese had a sarcastic term that translated into “class struggle face”.

    • Replies: @Hereward
    Roissy's example looks like a female version of Strelnikov from Dr. Zhivago.
    , @Flinders Petrie
    Yes, class struggle face sums it up nicely. To me, there's a level of false certainty and elation in the BAMN girl that makes her more creepy than the brooding, hateful Harry Potter-glasses girl. It's more apparent in the video than in the still shot.
  121. @wren

    He’s a remarkably earnest human being
     
    Well, he is Steve Ernest Sailer, after all.

    I should title my autobiography “The Importance of Being Ernest.”

    • Replies: @wren
    “I Yam What I Yam” as a subtitle?
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Or maybe "A lifetime of noticing"
  122. I’m curious about someone who used to post here .

    Oscar Peterson

    I haven’t seen a post from him in some time. I hope he is well . And where ever he is this is for him :

  123. @Steve Sailer
    I should title my autobiography "The Importance of Being Ernest."

    “I Yam What I Yam” as a subtitle?

    • Replies: @wren
    Oddly fitting:

    You don't have to be no fish to tell when you're flounderin'

    What am I? Some kind of barnacles on the dinghy of life?

    I ain't no doctors but I knows when I'm losin' me patiensk.

    What am I? Some kind of judge, or a lawyer?
    Aw, maybe not; but I knows what laws suits me.

    So what am I? I ain't no physciscisk, but I knows what matters

    What am I? I'm Popeye, the sailor

    [sung]
    And I yam what I yam what I yam and I yam what I yam and that's all that I yam 'cause I yam what I yam

    And I gots a lot of muskle and I only gots one eye
    And I never hurts nobodys and I'll never tell a lie
    Tops to me bottoms and me bottoms to me top
    And that's the way it is 'till the day that I drop
    What am I?

    I yam what I yam!
    I yam what I yam what I yam what I yam what I yam!

    Etc.

    http://youtu.be/F8TRoMSG-5I
  124. @yaqub the mad scientist
    Derbyshire commented on a Roissy post about "SJW face" that during the Maoist years, the Chinese had a sarcastic term that translated into "class struggle face".

    Roissy’s example looks like a female version of Strelnikov from Dr. Zhivago.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Or, jerzy kosinski in Warren Beatty's "Reds" as Bolshevik leader Zinoviev.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Resting bitch face, indeed.
  125. And where has syon gone ?

  126. @Hereward
    Roissy's example looks like a female version of Strelnikov from Dr. Zhivago.

    Or, jerzy kosinski in Warren Beatty’s “Reds” as Bolshevik leader Zinoviev.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    Jerzy Kosinski in that movie is a spitting image of comedic talent Eugene Levy who acted as the dad in American Pie. Kosinski was one weird dude.


    On the other hand, Tom Courtenay, who did a star turn as Strelnikov/Pasha Antipov in Doctor Zhivago looked exactly like John Lennon.

  127. @AndrewR
    I think Steve is liberal enough to want blacks to have the same rights that we do but conservative enough to understand that, as a group, blacks are not capable of fulfilling the responsibilities that accompany those rights.

    At least that's my personal conundrum.

    Totally agree.

    I also want blacks to have the same rights as we do. And I also understand that, as a group, blacks are not capable of fulfilling the responsibilities that accompany those rights.

    That’s why I think that we and blacks should be enjoying our rights in totally separate locations. I can say honestly that if all blacks lived in Africa and somehow managed to establish a pleasant prosperous society there, I would be happy for them. I’d be happy if all blacks were in Africa living in nicer houses than mine (which is saying a lot because I’m house proud).

    I’m not happy with our current living arrangements and never will be.

    • Agree: AndrewR
  128. @SPMoore8
    I agree with this assessment. If you want to be a public intellectual or a political leader you cannot always just speak the unvarnished truth as it appears in your mind, because you must take into account the limitations of your audience. This is not to put things on the level of a Straussian idea of esoteric speech, either to avoid persecution or because hoi polloi doesn't deserve to know the truth. It is rather a common sense understanding that words have consequences among your entire audience, including the 1/3 of Americans with IQ's below 85 (or whatever the actual percentage is).

    In the current situation we have the twin phenomena of chronic failure and rampant crime in many AA communities, coupled with a technological and social media platform that makes it easy to instantly goad an internet mob into intense outbursts. Recognizing that this is the root cause of the crisis means that, if you are going to be leader, you have to address these issues carefully and with circumspection, to avoid inflaming the situation or creating simple minded dichotomies like black/cops, straights/gays, or whatever. None of our political leadership has been particularly good at this, but Hillary has definitely built her campaign on this. In fact, for most of these cases I seriously question whether it is responsible political leadership to say anything at all. For example, I don't think any of Obama's bloviating about Trayvon or Ferguson actually stopped any disturbances, or brought about any peace. In fact, it was perceived if anything as a justification for public demonstrations.

    We will know if there are any consequences to this intentional or unintended but consequential polarization and baiting over the course of the next three weeks. And then we have the long hot month of August.

    I'm not very upbeat about Trump's candidacy, based on his previous undisciplined speech, but I won't criticize him here. I do think he represents a better hope than Hillary Clinton. Her candidacy can be damaged if there is continued violence and she refuses to dissociate from those elements of society that she has wittingly or unwittingly inspired to violence. If there is violence, and she refuses the dissociate, she is likely to lose a significant percentage of the Great Middle of the D party. If there is violence, and she does dissociate, she will anger the fractious media that for the most part has been supporting her unstintingly (but see Maureen Dowd's highly critical column today), and lose those minority votes. If there is no further violence she will still have to contend with the broad perception of her and her husband as a couple of arrogant crooks. Given the levels of uncertainty and violence going on, I would not want someone who is so lax about security and seemingly so lacking in integrity ("what difference does it make?") answering any 3 AM phone calls, which, given her track record, would probably be tapped and on youtube in half an hour anyway.

    But please, let's try to get Labor Day without a lot more blood on the streets.

    For example, I don’t think any of Obama’s bloviating about Trayvon or Ferguson actually stopped any disturbances, or brought about any peace. In fact, it was perceived if anything as a justification for public demonstrations.

    Wasn’t that the whole point?

    As Steve has said, in ’12 and ’14, Team Obama and his comrades in the Mediacrity fanned the flames of black anger to light a fire under the Democratic base. Our Fearless Leader didn’t seem to care that he was about to set the whole damn country ablaze.

  129. This is a post from March 2015 :

    “I wondered the same thing . There are so many police murders of blacks and whites that the choices the MSM makes are telling . The point is , I believe , to keep the racism pot simmering . The Left and their supporters use it to isolate the Right , they know that the ghetto dwellers will riot and loot at the drop of a hat and the result will be even more polarization which is all that keeps their coalition of freaks together ”

    How naive I was .

  130. @yaqub the mad scientist
    Derbyshire commented on a Roissy post about "SJW face" that during the Maoist years, the Chinese had a sarcastic term that translated into "class struggle face".

    Yes, class struggle face sums it up nicely. To me, there’s a level of false certainty and elation in the BAMN girl that makes her more creepy than the brooding, hateful Harry Potter-glasses girl. It’s more apparent in the video than in the still shot.

  131. @wren
    “I Yam What I Yam” as a subtitle?

    Oddly fitting:

    You don’t have to be no fish to tell when you’re flounderin’

    What am I? Some kind of barnacles on the dinghy of life?

    I ain’t no doctors but I knows when I’m losin’ me patiensk.

    What am I? Some kind of judge, or a lawyer?
    Aw, maybe not; but I knows what laws suits me.

    So what am I? I ain’t no physciscisk, but I knows what matters

    What am I? I’m Popeye, the sailor

    [sung]
    And I yam what I yam what I yam and I yam what I yam and that’s all that I yam ’cause I yam what I yam

    And I gots a lot of muskle and I only gots one eye
    And I never hurts nobodys and I’ll never tell a lie
    Tops to me bottoms and me bottoms to me top
    And that’s the way it is ’till the day that I drop
    What am I?

    I yam what I yam!
    I yam what I yam what I yam what I yam what I yam!

    Etc.

    http://youtu.be/F8TRoMSG-5I

  132. @SPMoore8
    I agree with this assessment. If you want to be a public intellectual or a political leader you cannot always just speak the unvarnished truth as it appears in your mind, because you must take into account the limitations of your audience. This is not to put things on the level of a Straussian idea of esoteric speech, either to avoid persecution or because hoi polloi doesn't deserve to know the truth. It is rather a common sense understanding that words have consequences among your entire audience, including the 1/3 of Americans with IQ's below 85 (or whatever the actual percentage is).

    In the current situation we have the twin phenomena of chronic failure and rampant crime in many AA communities, coupled with a technological and social media platform that makes it easy to instantly goad an internet mob into intense outbursts. Recognizing that this is the root cause of the crisis means that, if you are going to be leader, you have to address these issues carefully and with circumspection, to avoid inflaming the situation or creating simple minded dichotomies like black/cops, straights/gays, or whatever. None of our political leadership has been particularly good at this, but Hillary has definitely built her campaign on this. In fact, for most of these cases I seriously question whether it is responsible political leadership to say anything at all. For example, I don't think any of Obama's bloviating about Trayvon or Ferguson actually stopped any disturbances, or brought about any peace. In fact, it was perceived if anything as a justification for public demonstrations.

    We will know if there are any consequences to this intentional or unintended but consequential polarization and baiting over the course of the next three weeks. And then we have the long hot month of August.

    I'm not very upbeat about Trump's candidacy, based on his previous undisciplined speech, but I won't criticize him here. I do think he represents a better hope than Hillary Clinton. Her candidacy can be damaged if there is continued violence and she refuses to dissociate from those elements of society that she has wittingly or unwittingly inspired to violence. If there is violence, and she refuses the dissociate, she is likely to lose a significant percentage of the Great Middle of the D party. If there is violence, and she does dissociate, she will anger the fractious media that for the most part has been supporting her unstintingly (but see Maureen Dowd's highly critical column today), and lose those minority votes. If there is no further violence she will still have to contend with the broad perception of her and her husband as a couple of arrogant crooks. Given the levels of uncertainty and violence going on, I would not want someone who is so lax about security and seemingly so lacking in integrity ("what difference does it make?") answering any 3 AM phone calls, which, given her track record, would probably be tapped and on youtube in half an hour anyway.

    But please, let's try to get Labor Day without a lot more blood on the streets.

    At the moment Hillary is no doubt sighing with relief due to the nation’s attention being diverted away from the FBI investigation. It’s probably a lot easier for her to make a generalized statement about all the mayhem going on than to stammer her way through more awkward email questions.

    ” I’m not very upbeat about Trump’s candidacy, based on his previous undisciplined speech, but I won’t criticize him here.”

    I have a strange feeling that he may not be the candidate at all. If the Republicans are even half as dedicated in repudiating Trump as the DNC was in anointing Hillary they might find a way to stop him.

    This would put the Clinton crowd in an odd situation since their campaign has been almost entirely based on #neverTrump.

    • Agree: Spmoore8
    • Replies: @Lot

    At the moment Hillary is no doubt sighing with relief due to the nation’s attention being diverted away from the FBI investigation.
     
    Completely disagree. BLM as the top story is exactly what Trump needs. Independent and swing voters do not care about Hillary using the wrong e-mail server.

    Trump should take the next week very low-key and concentrate on raising money and, since he's doing a poor job of that, try to find people who will full-time volunteer for him long-term and make sure they feel supported and connected to his campaign. His recent photo-op standing in front of three dozen cops in full dress uniform should be repeated in many cities. Has he hired an advance team that can make this happen?

    Since many areas have rules about wearing uniforms for political photo-ops, where Trump can't stand in front of uniformed police officers he needs to stand in front of vets in uniform, both younger Bush Wars vets and older VWF men.

    Most of all Trump needs to resist the temptation to drop twitter bombs about BLM. Leave that to Ann Coulter and Milo.

    Average Americans are pretty tuned out of politics in summer, and really start paying attention at the conventions. Until then, a few weeks where they glance at TV or a news website and see Trump looking presidential and then police officers being attacked and roads being illegally shut down would do him good.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Hasn't been all that great for Hillary. She got kneecapped by Maureen Dowd over the weekend.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/752337302932905984
    , @Ed
    People understand the danger of unruly blacks more than they do the minutiae of classified emails. Remember for many Americans many major lifetime decisions involve staying away from black people, from where to live to where to send their kids to school.

    Unlike before the GOP now has a candidate is a lot more skilled at making the connection for voters.
  133. Abe says: • Website
    @guest
    What do you expect? They retain momentum, despite the 9/11-ness of Dallas a few days ago. It's not as if black people feel ashamed when Black Supremacists kill white people. (What are they, white people?) And it's not as if the government, not counting rank and file cops, and the MSM are gonna suddenly decide they don't want the race war they've been stoking these past several years.

    Correction , they don't actually want a race war. They jus want one side of the potential race war to give up. If we can do that without an actual war, that'd be fine. But it'll be hard to stop the black shock troops on a dime.

    Correction , they don’t actually want a race war. They jus want one side of the potential race war to give up. If we can do that without an actual war, that’d be fine. But it’ll be hard to stop the black shock troops on a dime.

    Yes, but I think you are way too optimistic about which side it is that is going to surrender and under what terms that surrender is going to be administered. BLM is based on mendacity and lies, so meeting it even one inch is acceding to falsehood and injustice. Yet “compromise”, “listening to each other”, and “healing” will be the siren song the media plays the rest of the year to Mr. and Mrs. Joe Q. Public, and who but the most jaded alt-right’r is going to say no to that?

    Some things I could see coming out of this that everyone not to the right of Trump will rapturously embrace:

    * gun control (strangely, the least likely to pass)
    * federalization of all police forces, which Hilary has already broached through the introduction of national “guidelines”; this means our last, real vestige of federalism (local and state control of criminal justice) will cease to exist, as every city and municipal police department in the country is made painfully aware it can be Ferguson’d by a well-funded, permanent, Federal bureaucracy at the drop of a hat
    * the sistah-ization of most police forces; this is based on some “viral” video made by a fat, angry, black female police “officer” calling for all the “racist” cops to get the f’ out. Will the blue collar-ish but generally honest and effective white males who make up the bulk of our local police forces look at all this and decide it’s not worth the headache? Will the tomorrow’s police forces look like a West-side Chicago DMV? Sounds far-fetched, yet how did fat, angry, low-intelligence black women come to dominate the staff of so many prisons (including men’s ones)? How did we come to live in a country in which for the last 8 years the legal chain-of-command is almost entirely black, from the President to his Attorney General to the local police chief?

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    As long as cops are well compensated, you don't have to worry about competent ones bailing. To do what? Work at Walmart? The few lucrative, unionized blue collar jobs in the private sector require connections and are essentially hereditary at this point.

    When a town near me has a police job opening, they get hundreds of applicants.
  134. @Anon
    I'd crawl through a dumpster fire to vote for Trump. That said, I work for a very liberal software company. I tell everyone I know that I will vote for Hillary if they ask me point blank.

    You spineless weasel! Have you no balls, sir?

    (Yeah, I’ve done that before, as well.)

    When folks who I cannot afford to piss off start ranting about Trump and ask me for my thoughts, I say something like, “Everything he does is driven by his ego. The campaign is a total freak show.” Or I make fun of his hair. Or I ask if they’ve seen the Japanese Trump commercial on YouTube. If they say they haven’t, I show it to them.

    Technically, I never lie. I do believe that Trump is driven by his ego, and I do believe that any national election in the zeitgeist of July 2016 – the summer of BLM and tranny-Rechten-über-alles – can’t help but be a freak show. And his hair is most make-fun-able, is it not? And that YouTube clip is nothing if not a Rorschach test.

    (Note that I say the campaign and not his campaign.)

    I never say, in so many words, “I’m not voting for Trump.” I never have to say it. (If I did have to say it, for the sake of my own bottom line, then I would.)

    It’s not that hard to fool RightThinkers into thinking that you’re on their side without ever explicitly saying that you are.

  135. @pink_point
    You mean the MN upper-middle, and upper class have had no changes in their life, safery, ..., until now?

    “until now?”

    Not even now. I tell you, black unrest and violence barely touches us, especially the upper strata. They mostly injure themselves, occasionally some property or the police. It’ll have to ramp up a hundred more notches until you convert any democratic farm labor goodthinkers.

    • Replies: @Lurker

    It’ll have to ramp up a hundred more notches until you convert any democratic farm labor goodthinkers.
     
    By which time it will be far too late to doing anything constructive.
  136. By contrast…a century ago and a world away, Gandhi and the Indian National Congress called off the entire Indian non-violent home-rule movement for years after an incident in which 23 policemen were killed by an irate mob that spun out of control.

    In reflection, Gandhi felt that he had acted too hastily in encouraging people to revolt…without sufficiently emphasising the importance of… (non-violence) and without adequately training the people to exercise restraint…He decided that the Indian people were ill-prepared and not yet ready to do what was needed

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chauri_Chaura_incident

  137. Abe says: • Website

    OT, but pretty astonishing from a sitting Supreme Court Justice reputed to be the intellectual heavyweight on the left side of the bench:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/11/us/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-no-fan-of-donald-trump-critiques-latest-term.html?_r=0

    These days, she is making no secret of what she thinks of a certain presidential candidate.

    “I can’t imagine what this place would be — I can’t imagine what the country would be — with Donald Trump as our president,” she said. “For the country, it could be four years. For the court, it could be — I don’t even want to contemplate that.”

    It reminded her of something her husband, Martin D. Ginsburg, a prominent tax lawyer who died in 2010, would have said.

    “‘Now it’s time for us to move to New Zealand,’” Justice Ginsburg said, smiling ruefully.

    Yes, last time the Orcs came around New Zealand all those South Pacific hobbits put on yellow stars in solidarity!

  138. From Wikpedia :

    “An invasive species is a plant or animal that is not native to a specific location (an Introduced species); and has a tendency to spread, which is believed to cause damage to the environment, human economy and/or human health.”

    “Native species can be threatened with extinction[63] through the process of genetic pollution”

  139. @guest
    "until now?"

    Not even now. I tell you, black unrest and violence barely touches us, especially the upper strata. They mostly injure themselves, occasionally some property or the police. It'll have to ramp up a hundred more notches until you convert any democratic farm labor goodthinkers.

    It’ll have to ramp up a hundred more notches until you convert any democratic farm labor goodthinkers.

    By which time it will be far too late to doing anything constructive.

  140. Hey , a suggestion for a name change for BLM :

    “Campaign for Moorish Dignity”

  141. @SPMoore8
    I agree with this assessment. If you want to be a public intellectual or a political leader you cannot always just speak the unvarnished truth as it appears in your mind, because you must take into account the limitations of your audience. This is not to put things on the level of a Straussian idea of esoteric speech, either to avoid persecution or because hoi polloi doesn't deserve to know the truth. It is rather a common sense understanding that words have consequences among your entire audience, including the 1/3 of Americans with IQ's below 85 (or whatever the actual percentage is).

    In the current situation we have the twin phenomena of chronic failure and rampant crime in many AA communities, coupled with a technological and social media platform that makes it easy to instantly goad an internet mob into intense outbursts. Recognizing that this is the root cause of the crisis means that, if you are going to be leader, you have to address these issues carefully and with circumspection, to avoid inflaming the situation or creating simple minded dichotomies like black/cops, straights/gays, or whatever. None of our political leadership has been particularly good at this, but Hillary has definitely built her campaign on this. In fact, for most of these cases I seriously question whether it is responsible political leadership to say anything at all. For example, I don't think any of Obama's bloviating about Trayvon or Ferguson actually stopped any disturbances, or brought about any peace. In fact, it was perceived if anything as a justification for public demonstrations.

    We will know if there are any consequences to this intentional or unintended but consequential polarization and baiting over the course of the next three weeks. And then we have the long hot month of August.

    I'm not very upbeat about Trump's candidacy, based on his previous undisciplined speech, but I won't criticize him here. I do think he represents a better hope than Hillary Clinton. Her candidacy can be damaged if there is continued violence and she refuses to dissociate from those elements of society that she has wittingly or unwittingly inspired to violence. If there is violence, and she refuses the dissociate, she is likely to lose a significant percentage of the Great Middle of the D party. If there is violence, and she does dissociate, she will anger the fractious media that for the most part has been supporting her unstintingly (but see Maureen Dowd's highly critical column today), and lose those minority votes. If there is no further violence she will still have to contend with the broad perception of her and her husband as a couple of arrogant crooks. Given the levels of uncertainty and violence going on, I would not want someone who is so lax about security and seemingly so lacking in integrity ("what difference does it make?") answering any 3 AM phone calls, which, given her track record, would probably be tapped and on youtube in half an hour anyway.

    But please, let's try to get Labor Day without a lot more blood on the streets.

    Right, yeah… it was amazing that Dowd wrote some things that you and I agree with – sheesh, finally; she was dead to me for a long time, like several years, maybe a decade…but of course, women irritate me so I don’t pay much attention to what they spout.

    And, I agree that Hillary & Trump are both flawed characters…but Trump doesn’t scare me as much. Trump, in a weird way because he is older than me, sort of seems naive about all the things I care about: international politics/ISIS/migrant crisis/EU/European issues in general/continuing gestalt with Russia/pollution/arctic issues/animals…so, I am still trying to figure out what his take is on stuff I really care about. As for Hillary, well, I have sons (almost all adults), so she sucks for boys in America now, and for the next 20 years. In fact, the current Administration and the entire Democrat Party, most, so-called Progressives (seem to – I’ll stay open minded for the summer) hate white boys…THIS scares me the most.

    As far as violence, well, irrational, illegal violence, without a question, is usually committed by stupid people. So, both political parties need to make sure their proponents adhere to a certain sense of decorum so it does not turn in to a sh*t sh*w at their conventions….or at the parking lots! Or, we could see the whole summer spent on reading articles/listening to unctuous talking heads interpreting what specific type of violence actually occurred at a convention/rally/meet-up. I don’t want to be lectured about behavior….I am exceptionally well-mannered.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    Someone suggested that Trump might not get the nomination. There hasn't been a GOP nomination with any suspense since maybe 1964 (the first one I watched, maybe I was just kidding myself.)

    I would agree that several other GOP contenders could probably beat Hillary. She is basically campaigning on the "I am the lesser evil!" platform.

    It's not that I wouldn't accept Trump as POTUS or vote for him. I think his lack of political experience and his lack of rhetorical control hurt him, and I think those lacks will hurt him in November. I really don't see him winning, and when my friends in business (including Jewish Trump supporters, BTW, who couldn't care less about six pointed stars) talk about how close he is to Hillary, I must admit my skepticism.

    What can I say, I feel that, as a nation, we are in a bad way. But one thing that is a non-starter is this idea that we can re-introduce segregation and that it will somehow work out if we do so. That's just a huge fail in the general electorate and in the evolution of the western mind. If someone wants to repudiate 200 years of evolution in this area, they've got a long haul to look forward to. That is why I think Steve is right and we have to invoke "citizenism" or whatever the label is. We can have the same de facto segregation that we have now, we don't have to rig the results, but we do have to get along. If that means we have to work at it, so be it. That's our social contract.
  142. Steve, is a nice guy with nice guy attitudes from say, 1963. He’s Martin Milner from Adam-12, and that worked well back in 1963. Unfortunately …

    Why would Hillary stop pouring gasoline on fire? Its worked like crazy for her, the more White cops are killed, or even better for her thinking, White civilians, the more White women just … surrender.

    The whole point of BLM is Black dominance and humiliation of Whites. Particularly working class White cops, and middle class White Dem politicos. Think of that famous Daily Mail photo of the hulking Black rioter making the skinny White Londoner strip in the riots of 2011. That’s it. And it works — women respond on a visceral level to domination, and vote for whoever is most dominant. Trump probably knows this too which is why he has said nothing.

    This country is RUN BY BLACKS. Paul Kersey’s “BRA” concept — Black concepts and demands and of course top cabinet officials not to mention the President are of over-riding importance to everything else. This includes movies, TV, etc. [At least up until they run into the Wall of Chinese limits to their market for TV and Movies the Chinese not being big on Diversity or Black Worship.]

    Hillary of course like Bill has not an ounce of patriotism and decency and concern for the country. That’s Steve’s blindspot, and that of most of the Alt-Right — they expect people to act in a patriotic matter when mostly they don’t. The Chinese did not during most of the 19th and 20th Centuries to use one example. A society cannot endure on altruistic patriotism for long — our current politics is the fault of the failure to bring elites into alignment of interests with ordinary people.

    What’s Hillary’s downside? A mass murder of Whites by Black Lives Matter people? An Israeli style intifada against Whites by Blacks? If that happened she’d have a twenty point victory over Trump.

    [And yes Paul Ryan is plotting to simply remove Trump at the Convention and run himself.]

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    http://imgur.com/gallery/r1t66P7

    Why, yes I am Martin Milner:

    , @Steve Sailer
    http://imgur.com/gallery/r1t66P7

    Why, yes I am Martin Milner.
    Thank you for noticing.

    , @Jefferson
    "What’s Hillary’s downside? A mass murder of Whites by Black Lives Matter people? An Israeli style intifada against Whites by Blacks? If that happened she’d have a twenty point victory over Trump."

    That's because the American masses hate White people, which includes Nonwhites and self hating Whites who have zero loyalty to their race. Polls have shown that Americans who like Mulignan Lies Matter outnumber Americans who don't like them. Mulignan Lies Matter have a higher approval rating than Donald Trump among the American people.
    , @BB753
    Whiskey, you make the same mistake as Paul Kersey. Blacks do not run anything in USA. You two are getting brownshirts ( in this case, black boots on the ground) mixed up with real power. That would be Soros, who funds BLM and the money behind Democrats, which is about 80% of big corporations and banks.
    Though you're probably right about Ryan and Romney planning to remove Trump at the convention. My prediction is that Trump had those chumps figured out months ago and already has a counter-attack ready.
    , @Travis
    it is true that our current politics results from the failure to bring elites into alignment of interests with ordinary people.

    But the BLM movement has gone too far, they will scare millions of whites to vote Republican and will actually convince many Asian and Hispanics to vote republican.

    it is notable that the Cop in Minnesota was Hispanic. There have been other cases of Asian officers killing blacks...While the BLM movement implies all the violent cops are white, the Latino and Asian people are realizing that they will be treated as whites by the Black movements, thus many of them will begin to vote republican. They realize that America is a Black -White Nation...a place where Hispanics and Asians will be treated by whites , just ask George Zimmerman.

    another good week for Trump, as the coalition of the fringes has gone loco. Killing White police because a Mexican Cop killed an armed black man reaching for his gun in Minneapolis.
  143. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    I doubt that the upper middle class in the Twin Cities has had any change in their safety even now. That's my point.

    Upper Midwest people are very good people. They don't want trouble, and they have a remarkable believe in authority. And right now, the authority - government, media and academia - is telling them that black and Hispanic problems are the result of racism, so they say, "Well, OK, then, I guess is it's that racism thing-a-ma-jig that's causing all the problems. We should do are darndest to fix it."

    I'm saying that as long as the media, government and academia remain leftest strongholds, people from the upper Midwest will hold out to the bitter end before changing their views. They're not stupid; they're just rule followers.

    “Well, OK, then, I guess is it’s that racism thing-a-ma-jig that’s causing all the problems. We should do our darndest to fix it.”

    Behold the inner workings of the Upper Midwestern mind:

    In Lake Wobegon, many of the children now have above-average levels of melanin. Soon all of them will.

  144. Ed says:

    I remain hopeful. I think we’ve reached a turning point. This is where Trump is the most potent & stark differences to previous GOP candidates will emerge. This weekend some of his surrogates beginning with his son explicitly used “whites privilege” to attack Clinton. A rumored potential VP pick, Gen. Flynn spent Sunday accused Clinton of being divisive and blaming white people.

    After Tuesday I suspect Trump will go on the attack. I know he tried to speak to the NYPD but the commish scuttled it but I know he’s tremendously popular with the brass. At any rate if I was him I’d got to Baton Rouge on Tuesday meet the cops, he’ll be received warmly and the message will be sent.

    The country isn’t that far gone. Cops are tremendously popular despite the media hit pieces. Also watch Hispanics, a poll before all of this had Trump at 41-48 with English fluent Hispanics. I think this level of disorder gets Miami Cubans back into the fold lest their city goes up in flames.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Trump should go to Bristol Tennessee, where that mother of two was murdered by the BLM guy. He ought to personally hand a check for $100k to her family, and make a speech calling for calm.

    By going there, he will force the media to cover the collateral damage of BLM. He can say that like anyone else, he was disturbed by the videos of the two black men shot by cops and he expects the cases to be thoroughly investigated. But that BLM assuming racism is the cause is false [insert stats from Moskos & Mac Donald illustrating why]. And that Dems stoke BLM grievances to divert from their failure to improve the economic position of blacks [insert stats on black unemployment, etc.]. And that it's cynical and evil for them to do so, because it is getting people killed.
  145. @Lagertha
    Right, yeah... it was amazing that Dowd wrote some things that you and I agree with - sheesh, finally; she was dead to me for a long time, like several years, maybe a decade...but of course, women irritate me so I don't pay much attention to what they spout.

    And, I agree that Hillary & Trump are both flawed characters...but Trump doesn't scare me as much. Trump, in a weird way because he is older than me, sort of seems naive about all the things I care about: international politics/ISIS/migrant crisis/EU/European issues in general/continuing gestalt with Russia/pollution/arctic issues/animals...so, I am still trying to figure out what his take is on stuff I really care about. As for Hillary, well, I have sons (almost all adults), so she sucks for boys in America now, and for the next 20 years. In fact, the current Administration and the entire Democrat Party, most, so-called Progressives (seem to - I'll stay open minded for the summer) hate white boys...THIS scares me the most.

    As far as violence, well, irrational, illegal violence, without a question, is usually committed by stupid people. So, both political parties need to make sure their proponents adhere to a certain sense of decorum so it does not turn in to a sh*t sh*w at their conventions....or at the parking lots! Or, we could see the whole summer spent on reading articles/listening to unctuous talking heads interpreting what specific type of violence actually occurred at a convention/rally/meet-up. I don't want to be lectured about behavior....I am exceptionally well-mannered.

    Someone suggested that Trump might not get the nomination. There hasn’t been a GOP nomination with any suspense since maybe 1964 (the first one I watched, maybe I was just kidding myself.)

    I would agree that several other GOP contenders could probably beat Hillary. She is basically campaigning on the “I am the lesser evil!” platform.

    It’s not that I wouldn’t accept Trump as POTUS or vote for him. I think his lack of political experience and his lack of rhetorical control hurt him, and I think those lacks will hurt him in November. I really don’t see him winning, and when my friends in business (including Jewish Trump supporters, BTW, who couldn’t care less about six pointed stars) talk about how close he is to Hillary, I must admit my skepticism.

    What can I say, I feel that, as a nation, we are in a bad way. But one thing that is a non-starter is this idea that we can re-introduce segregation and that it will somehow work out if we do so. That’s just a huge fail in the general electorate and in the evolution of the western mind. If someone wants to repudiate 200 years of evolution in this area, they’ve got a long haul to look forward to. That is why I think Steve is right and we have to invoke “citizenism” or whatever the label is. We can have the same de facto segregation that we have now, we don’t have to rig the results, but we do have to get along. If that means we have to work at it, so be it. That’s our social contract.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    all good points.

    Since so much of "me" is linked to Europe/Finland in particular, I have always voted for presidents according to their view of the larger world beyond the shores of our coasts. So many presidents have been very "Bubba"- like to me, and the rest have had axes to grind...as far as their ideology, perceptions, or just plain knowledge of Europe, and the rest of the world. Besides Eisenhower (I was not even alive then!), there has never been a really erudite, cosmopolitan American president, much to my dismay...Notice: deliberate use of the word, 'cosmopolitan, ' with no reference to one of my favorite vodka drinks.

    GHWB was close to being a cosmogirl, but because of his immense ties to the CIA , and the fact that he was part of my father's generation of men growing up during WW2, he was a president who was molded by the history and significance of the existential crisis of WW2. They remained paranoid men (my father & grandfather included) of Russia, China, all communist countries...and they were skeptical of "developing" countries, mostly because of corruption and $$$$ that were part and parcel of sustaining those dysfunctional countries/regions. So, I said this last year sometime, there really is not a candidate for me, but much of the stuff that Trump says, I agree with. And, Hillary....that train left the station for me in the 90's.

    The last thing I will say about Trump is, he seems to be an existentialist...which is why, in a totally weird and nonsensical way, I can understand him, even if I think he is a baffling choice for presidency (he may be fine as so many people will rein him in like a Macy's Thanksgiving Parade baloon). For me: everything comes down to family, and like him, I have a fairly large and complicated family; but we get along. And, like him, our families seem to understand; respect for all. The fact that he has not screwed-up his relationship with his children is a huge factor in his favor.

    However, he needs to understand WTF is going on in each country/continents, both hemispheres - albeit, the EU monsignors, and PM's of EU countries may not be up to my standards of what they should know about history, literature, science...they may be as dumb as bricks, ha, ha, haa! and are no greater leaders than Trump, who is, at least, an Ivy league grad. Accents, and, just because you're European does not mean you are smart! - ha- I think I used that line in my HS yearbook to make a point!

    Your last paragraph, before I digress even further, is a bit confusing. I have always thought the USA was moving along admirably, to a more eclectic society. Since I was in school in NYC and NJ, college in N.E., I have always been friends with everyone, all races/all beliefs...as well as my sons. In fact, during these last few years with BLM in the news, I have told my sons that it confuses me and depresses me that things seem to be going backwards in time. And, that growing up in the 70's, in the communities I lived in, everyone got along...no bullsh*t virtue signaling, btw. I would send photos and proof, but, crap, I'm paranoid.

    So, yeah, duh, of course segregation is in the "dust-bin," of time. I agree wholeheartedly that blacks and whites can totally achieve harmony. Every ethnic group/race that emigrated to the states in the 19th and 20th+ centuries will find grace and find a place in American society....but...and a big BUT...it comes down to education and humility. It comes down to that individual that realizes that through education and effort, come satisfaction and rewards.

    And, I know I will totally sound ridiculous, once again, BUT: my father, who knew he was a time-bomb as far as his health, said: "we have now emigrated to the USA; now, this is our home. From now on, your pursuit of your education, your talents and wits are paramount, the only things you have to guide you to a happy life. And, after your mother and I are dead, the only people you have are your brothers."

    , @IA

    That is why I think Steve is right and we have to invoke “citizenism”
     
    They have been trying that in downtown Washington, DC for the past 15 years with white gentrification. Things are not going well. What do you tell the 95% Democrat voting population in Washington, DC? Please advise, they need your help.
    , @IA

    If that means we have to work at it, so be it.
     
    Please advise Denise Rucker Krepp. She needs your help: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/a-recent-shooting-leaves-east-hill-on-edge/2016/06/30/36723a52-3e6d-11e6-80bc-d06711fd2125_story.html?wpisrc=nl_lclheads&wpmm=1

    Better yet, move to DC, to Ms. Kreps Capitol Hill neighborhood and set an example.
  146. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    I doubt that the upper middle class in the Twin Cities has had any change in their safety even now. That's my point.

    Upper Midwest people are very good people. They don't want trouble, and they have a remarkable believe in authority. And right now, the authority - government, media and academia - is telling them that black and Hispanic problems are the result of racism, so they say, "Well, OK, then, I guess is it's that racism thing-a-ma-jig that's causing all the problems. We should do are darndest to fix it."

    I'm saying that as long as the media, government and academia remain leftest strongholds, people from the upper Midwest will hold out to the bitter end before changing their views. They're not stupid; they're just rule followers.

    “Following the rules” and marching into a burning house because the rules say so is indeed, stupid.

    • Agree: Kylie
  147. @Steve Sailer
    Or, jerzy kosinski in Warren Beatty's "Reds" as Bolshevik leader Zinoviev.

    Jerzy Kosinski in that movie is a spitting image of comedic talent Eugene Levy who acted as the dad in American Pie. Kosinski was one weird dude.

    On the other hand, Tom Courtenay, who did a star turn as Strelnikov/Pasha Antipov in Doctor Zhivago looked exactly like John Lennon.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Kosinski / Levy look a lot like Sandy Koufax.
  148. Lot says:
    @Bernardista
    At the moment Hillary is no doubt sighing with relief due to the nation's attention being diverted away from the FBI investigation. It's probably a lot easier for her to make a generalized statement about all the mayhem going on than to stammer her way through more awkward email questions.

    " I’m not very upbeat about Trump’s candidacy, based on his previous undisciplined speech, but I won’t criticize him here."

    I have a strange feeling that he may not be the candidate at all. If the Republicans are even half as dedicated in repudiating Trump as the DNC was in anointing Hillary they might find a way to stop him.

    This would put the Clinton crowd in an odd situation since their campaign has been almost entirely based on #neverTrump.

    At the moment Hillary is no doubt sighing with relief due to the nation’s attention being diverted away from the FBI investigation.

    Completely disagree. BLM as the top story is exactly what Trump needs. Independent and swing voters do not care about Hillary using the wrong e-mail server.

    Trump should take the next week very low-key and concentrate on raising money and, since he’s doing a poor job of that, try to find people who will full-time volunteer for him long-term and make sure they feel supported and connected to his campaign. His recent photo-op standing in front of three dozen cops in full dress uniform should be repeated in many cities. Has he hired an advance team that can make this happen?

    Since many areas have rules about wearing uniforms for political photo-ops, where Trump can’t stand in front of uniformed police officers he needs to stand in front of vets in uniform, both younger Bush Wars vets and older VWF men.

    Most of all Trump needs to resist the temptation to drop twitter bombs about BLM. Leave that to Ann Coulter and Milo.

    Average Americans are pretty tuned out of politics in summer, and really start paying attention at the conventions. Until then, a few weeks where they glance at TV or a news website and see Trump looking presidential and then police officers being attacked and roads being illegally shut down would do him good.

  149. @Former Darfur
    No, income taxes should not go up on anyone.

    However, stiff luxury imported goods tariffs high dollar on cars and other imported high end luxuries should be instituted. A new Bugatti Veyron should carry a tariff of at least thirty percent, maybe more. Veblen goods-conspicuous consumption-should carry conspicuous taxation as well.

    No.

    Tariffs should be levied on any imported goods commensurate with the reciprocal tariffs imposed for any American goods (exempting entertainment goods such as movies, music, Obama-authored books, etc.) exported to the country of origin.

    Managed trade, and tariffs, for all goods – not just luxury goods.

  150. @Bernardista
    At the moment Hillary is no doubt sighing with relief due to the nation's attention being diverted away from the FBI investigation. It's probably a lot easier for her to make a generalized statement about all the mayhem going on than to stammer her way through more awkward email questions.

    " I’m not very upbeat about Trump’s candidacy, based on his previous undisciplined speech, but I won’t criticize him here."

    I have a strange feeling that he may not be the candidate at all. If the Republicans are even half as dedicated in repudiating Trump as the DNC was in anointing Hillary they might find a way to stop him.

    This would put the Clinton crowd in an odd situation since their campaign has been almost entirely based on #neverTrump.

    Hasn’t been all that great for Hillary. She got kneecapped by Maureen Dowd over the weekend.

  151. @The Only Catholic Unionist
    As Dr Frankenstein discovered, it's one thing to create a monster and another altogether to control it. (And this particular monster will not quietly go the Arctic ...)

    “In 1967 Sargent Shriver, as head of the Office of Economic Opportunity, had given the Blackstone Rangers, a Chicago gang which was one of the predecessors of the Gangster Disciples, a grant for over $900,000 to engage in, well, gang-related activity, which is to say criminal behavior, which at the time was a convenient way of driving Catholics out of the ethnic neighborhoods they had established on the South Side of Chicago.

    When the regime realized that the civil rights movement had morphed into a monster, the FBI was sent in to kill the Black Panthers. They created a COINTELPRO operation to take out the Chicago branch, then headed by Fred Hampton.” -E. Michael Jones

    “All Black [Covert] Operations get out of control and eventually turn on their handlers.” B. H. Liddell Hart, Strategy: An Indirect Approach

    Two other good quotes from Hart:
    Loss of hope rather than loss of life is what decides the issues of war. But helplessness induces hopelessness.

    A complacent satisfaction with present knowledge is the chief bar to the pursuit of knowledge.

  152. @Abe

    Correction , they don’t actually want a race war. They jus want one side of the potential race war to give up. If we can do that without an actual war, that’d be fine. But it’ll be hard to stop the black shock troops on a dime.
     
    Yes, but I think you are way too optimistic about which side it is that is going to surrender and under what terms that surrender is going to be administered. BLM is based on mendacity and lies, so meeting it even one inch is acceding to falsehood and injustice. Yet "compromise", "listening to each other", and "healing" will be the siren song the media plays the rest of the year to Mr. and Mrs. Joe Q. Public, and who but the most jaded alt-right'r is going to say no to that?

    Some things I could see coming out of this that everyone not to the right of Trump will rapturously embrace:

    * gun control (strangely, the least likely to pass)
    * federalization of all police forces, which Hilary has already broached through the introduction of national "guidelines"; this means our last, real vestige of federalism (local and state control of criminal justice) will cease to exist, as every city and municipal police department in the country is made painfully aware it can be Ferguson'd by a well-funded, permanent, Federal bureaucracy at the drop of a hat
    * the sistah-ization of most police forces; this is based on some "viral" video made by a fat, angry, black female police "officer" calling for all the "racist" cops to get the f' out. Will the blue collar-ish but generally honest and effective white males who make up the bulk of our local police forces look at all this and decide it's not worth the headache? Will the tomorrow's police forces look like a West-side Chicago DMV? Sounds far-fetched, yet how did fat, angry, low-intelligence black women come to dominate the staff of so many prisons (including men's ones)? How did we come to live in a country in which for the last 8 years the legal chain-of-command is almost entirely black, from the President to his Attorney General to the local police chief?

    As long as cops are well compensated, you don’t have to worry about competent ones bailing. To do what? Work at Walmart? The few lucrative, unionized blue collar jobs in the private sector require connections and are essentially hereditary at this point.

    When a town near me has a police job opening, they get hundreds of applicants.

  153. @PiltdownMan
    Jerzy Kosinski in that movie is a spitting image of comedic talent Eugene Levy who acted as the dad in American Pie. Kosinski was one weird dude.


    On the other hand, Tom Courtenay, who did a star turn as Strelnikov/Pasha Antipov in Doctor Zhivago looked exactly like John Lennon.

    Kosinski / Levy look a lot like Sandy Koufax.

  154. @Ed
    I remain hopeful. I think we've reached a turning point. This is where Trump is the most potent & stark differences to previous GOP candidates will emerge. This weekend some of his surrogates beginning with his son explicitly used "whites privilege" to attack Clinton. A rumored potential VP pick, Gen. Flynn spent Sunday accused Clinton of being divisive and blaming white people.

    After Tuesday I suspect Trump will go on the attack. I know he tried to speak to the NYPD but the commish scuttled it but I know he's tremendously popular with the brass. At any rate if I was him I'd got to Baton Rouge on Tuesday meet the cops, he'll be received warmly and the message will be sent.

    The country isn't that far gone. Cops are tremendously popular despite the media hit pieces. Also watch Hispanics, a poll before all of this had Trump at 41-48 with English fluent Hispanics. I think this level of disorder gets Miami Cubans back into the fold lest their city goes up in flames.

    Trump should go to Bristol Tennessee, where that mother of two was murdered by the BLM guy. He ought to personally hand a check for $100k to her family, and make a speech calling for calm.

    By going there, he will force the media to cover the collateral damage of BLM. He can say that like anyone else, he was disturbed by the videos of the two black men shot by cops and he expects the cases to be thoroughly investigated. But that BLM assuming racism is the cause is false [insert stats from Moskos & Mac Donald illustrating why]. And that Dems stoke BLM grievances to divert from their failure to improve the economic position of blacks [insert stats on black unemployment, etc.]. And that it’s cynical and evil for them to do so, because it is getting people killed.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    I don't have the Agree button active, but Dave, your proposed photo op and statement are excellent. I'm more a skewer them and drive the point home kind of guy, but this kinder gentler Donald Trump, which calls attention to the evil Obama\Hillary shit stirring is terrific atmospherics. Trump should listen.
  155. @justwonderingaboutbaseball
    Mr.Sailer,

    I'm sure you've seen this article by Cody Ross making the rounds in progressive circles:

    http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0141854

    Where does it take a wrong turn?*

    (*if it does)

    I’m not a statistical expert like others here, but I can already see the following “wrong” turns (I put “wrong” in quotes because the authors appear to have had a predetermined outcome they wanted , so they probably don’t consider these defects to be “wrong”–to them, they are right since they give the outcome they desire):

    • They basically give the game away in the beginning (without realizing it?) by admitting that the black rate of police shootings is about triple the white rate. Since the black crime rate is seven or eight times the white rate, this means that police are showing at least twice as much restraint in dealing with blacks as with whites. Of course, like most lefties, they don’t mention the much higher black crime rate, so to the unenlightened the triple police shooting level looks like an injustice to blacks when it is really an injustice to whites. Most of the rest of the paper is just a lot of obscurantist data-wanking, apparently intended to keep anyone from putting 2 and 2 together–or 3 and 8 together.

    • They do pretend to address the higher black crime rate by having a section near the end address correlations with “race-specific crime proxies”, but that is basically irrelevant. First, their proxies are weapons and assault charges, the definitions and enforcement of which vary wildly across jurisdictions, so it is not describing the same thing in different places. And even if it were, all that a non-correlation of police over-tolerance of black criminals versus white criminals with crime rates would show is just that police over-tolerance varies between jurisdictions, which should surprise no one and no one is disputing. So this section is just another non-event.

    • The authors spend some ink decrying the “structural bias” of the official, mainly FBI, statistics. Their criticisms may or may not have merit. The authors completely ignore, however, the yawning possibility of even greater structural bias in their own alternative sources.

    • There is an amusing section attempting to correlate something with the racist-ness of Google searches. I have no idea, and the study doesn’t say, how the SWPL at Google define racist searches. My experience is that the people who use racial epithets most, which one would presume are a component of “racist” Google searches, are black, so the this section no doubt has many confounding factors. In any case the study’s maps of this don’t correspond to much of anything.

    After all of this, there is a little bit of interest. The maps do seem to show some areas being much less tolerant of black misbehavior than other areas. These are mainly three areas: the Southwest, Florida and the Acela corridor in the Northeast. I would explain this as follows: two areas (the Southwest and Florida) are where non-whites (mainly Hispanics) have assumed the reins of law enforcement in numbers, so blacks are coming into contact with people who don’t hold the white tradition of over-tolerance of black misbehavior. The Acela corridor is of course the homeland of Left-Liberalism, so they really need rough men to do violence on their behalf so that they can continue to live the limousine liberal lifestyle to which they are accustomed.

    I don’t know much about the Bayesian methodology or why they used it so extensively. The whole study seems designed to answer simple questions in complicated ways, which is usually a sign of having something to hide. Maybe someone more expert can be more insightful about this.

    No doubt, because this study appears to support Goodthink, it has a bright future of being cited by people who have not read it and wouldn’t understand it if they had.

  156. @JerryC

    Hillary has been playing fire.
     
    Has she been? The media is there to make sure that no one (except extremist crimethinkers like the people who read this blog) ever draws a connection between Hillary/Obama, BLM and events like the Dallaa shootings. It hasn't rebounded on them so far. What does Hillary have to fear? Someone draw this out for me, I really don't know what it would take for the Democrats to pay a political price for all this hate they've been stirring up.

    I’d like to hit that “agree” button for you, but I already used it this hour.

  157. @SPMoore8
    Politicians may not pitch to the ~85 IQ crowd, but that's not the point if they hear the message and vote by looting and rioting. BTW, thanks for the stats.

    Question is, SP, who’s getting that crowd into the streets.

    Prolly the more than ~85 crowd, nu?

    • Agree: Spmoore8
  158. @Kylie
    "Again, as Americans, we’re all together on this..."

    No. We bloody effing well are not.

    Frankly--and with all due respect--I find your use of "we" as offensive as Obama's.

    I really cannot convey how alienated I feel from present-day America nor how embittered that sense of alienation has made me. It is a betrayal that I will never forgive or forget.

    I’m an expat but I recognize that’s not a solution. But from where I sit I have no desire to return to the United States permanently. There are personal reasons for my expat status, but also geopolitical ones: I no longer feel that large portions of the population of the United States are my countrymen. That’s a long personal journey for a guy who used to choke up singing America the Beautiful. I think that I would have difficulty reciting the Pledge of Allegiance or honoring the flag of this wreckage of a Republic.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    "I no longer feel that large portions of the population of the United States are my countrymen. That’s a long personal journey for a guy who used to choke up singing America the Beautiful. I think that I would have difficulty reciting the Pledge of Allegiance or honoring the flag of this wreckage of a Republic."

    Thank you. That is exactly how I feel. I've lost the home that I loved to distraction. I live in the country in which I was born. But I'm a stranger in a strange land.

    The sense of betrayal is deep and corrosive. I'll never get over it.

  159. @Steve Sailer
    I should title my autobiography "The Importance of Being Ernest."

    Or maybe “A lifetime of noticing”

  160. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Tell that to the Cohen brothers and Bob Dylan.

    OK. you know no more than I do.

  161. @L Woods
    Our host writes as though he assumes a modicum of common decency in our quarry exactly to highlight its manifest absence. He's hardly as naive as his rhetorical style might suggest on its face.

    I don’t like to suggest that some commenters are ‘spergy, but the tendency to answer rhetorical questions as if they were actual questions raises that suspicion. When you say, “Sir, have you no decency?” the implication is that the person you’re addressing has no decency, not that you can’t figure out whether he has decency or not.

  162. @Kylie
    Steve wrote: "In the wake of five white cops being murdered at the Black Lives Matter rally in Dallas on Thursday, you might think that BLM would have taken the weekend off out of mourning (shame)."

    I'm astonished that he would think this. He's extremely bright yet apparently he thinks a group of entitled, politicized blacks would respond with decorum to the murders of white cops by a black.

    Instead BLM doubled down on their protests--which is exactly what I expected.

    Hope that's clear enough.

    You don’t recognize rhetorical questions or the rhetorical use of sarcasm. You think our host is naive or missing the point because he doesn’t state it in a blunt and non-linear manner. This tendency is common among people on the spectrum. It’s one of those blind spots that causes you to think other people have a problem when actually you’re the one who does.

    I’m not trying to be insulting or sarcastic. One of my daughters has Non-Verbal Learning Disability (NLD) so I recognize it in others.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    You may well be right. I definitely have some blind spots. I've never been tested but on the online autism spectrum test where 16 and below is normal and mid-20s and up is autistic, I consistently score in the mid-30s.

    Then there are my obsessions with maps, processes, routines, dates, facts, trivia, etc.

    But in this case, I do think Steve is so forbearing that he might well have thought BLM would pause for a moment out of a sense of decency instead of being even more obnoxious. His "citizenist" thing tells me he's much more optimistic and idealistic wrt blacks and their potential to be good citizens than I am.

    In any case, thanks for weighing in. I've been telling people for years that I don't process information properly. I'm glad somebody else finally noticed.

  163. Ed says:
    @Bernardista
    At the moment Hillary is no doubt sighing with relief due to the nation's attention being diverted away from the FBI investigation. It's probably a lot easier for her to make a generalized statement about all the mayhem going on than to stammer her way through more awkward email questions.

    " I’m not very upbeat about Trump’s candidacy, based on his previous undisciplined speech, but I won’t criticize him here."

    I have a strange feeling that he may not be the candidate at all. If the Republicans are even half as dedicated in repudiating Trump as the DNC was in anointing Hillary they might find a way to stop him.

    This would put the Clinton crowd in an odd situation since their campaign has been almost entirely based on #neverTrump.

    People understand the danger of unruly blacks more than they do the minutiae of classified emails. Remember for many Americans many major lifetime decisions involve staying away from black people, from where to live to where to send their kids to school.

    Unlike before the GOP now has a candidate is a lot more skilled at making the connection for voters.

  164. @Whiskey
    Steve, is a nice guy with nice guy attitudes from say, 1963. He's Martin Milner from Adam-12, and that worked well back in 1963. Unfortunately ...

    Why would Hillary stop pouring gasoline on fire? Its worked like crazy for her, the more White cops are killed, or even better for her thinking, White civilians, the more White women just ... surrender.

    The whole point of BLM is Black dominance and humiliation of Whites. Particularly working class White cops, and middle class White Dem politicos. Think of that famous Daily Mail photo of the hulking Black rioter making the skinny White Londoner strip in the riots of 2011. That's it. And it works -- women respond on a visceral level to domination, and vote for whoever is most dominant. Trump probably knows this too which is why he has said nothing.

    This country is RUN BY BLACKS. Paul Kersey's "BRA" concept -- Black concepts and demands and of course top cabinet officials not to mention the President are of over-riding importance to everything else. This includes movies, TV, etc. [At least up until they run into the Wall of Chinese limits to their market for TV and Movies the Chinese not being big on Diversity or Black Worship.]

    Hillary of course like Bill has not an ounce of patriotism and decency and concern for the country. That's Steve's blindspot, and that of most of the Alt-Right -- they expect people to act in a patriotic matter when mostly they don't. The Chinese did not during most of the 19th and 20th Centuries to use one example. A society cannot endure on altruistic patriotism for long -- our current politics is the fault of the failure to bring elites into alignment of interests with ordinary people.

    What's Hillary's downside? A mass murder of Whites by Black Lives Matter people? An Israeli style intifada against Whites by Blacks? If that happened she'd have a twenty point victory over Trump.

    [And yes Paul Ryan is plotting to simply remove Trump at the Convention and run himself.]

    Martin Milner – End of Watch

    Why, yes I am Martin Milner:

  165. @Whiskey
    Steve, is a nice guy with nice guy attitudes from say, 1963. He's Martin Milner from Adam-12, and that worked well back in 1963. Unfortunately ...

    Why would Hillary stop pouring gasoline on fire? Its worked like crazy for her, the more White cops are killed, or even better for her thinking, White civilians, the more White women just ... surrender.

    The whole point of BLM is Black dominance and humiliation of Whites. Particularly working class White cops, and middle class White Dem politicos. Think of that famous Daily Mail photo of the hulking Black rioter making the skinny White Londoner strip in the riots of 2011. That's it. And it works -- women respond on a visceral level to domination, and vote for whoever is most dominant. Trump probably knows this too which is why he has said nothing.

    This country is RUN BY BLACKS. Paul Kersey's "BRA" concept -- Black concepts and demands and of course top cabinet officials not to mention the President are of over-riding importance to everything else. This includes movies, TV, etc. [At least up until they run into the Wall of Chinese limits to their market for TV and Movies the Chinese not being big on Diversity or Black Worship.]

    Hillary of course like Bill has not an ounce of patriotism and decency and concern for the country. That's Steve's blindspot, and that of most of the Alt-Right -- they expect people to act in a patriotic matter when mostly they don't. The Chinese did not during most of the 19th and 20th Centuries to use one example. A society cannot endure on altruistic patriotism for long -- our current politics is the fault of the failure to bring elites into alignment of interests with ordinary people.

    What's Hillary's downside? A mass murder of Whites by Black Lives Matter people? An Israeli style intifada against Whites by Blacks? If that happened she'd have a twenty point victory over Trump.

    [And yes Paul Ryan is plotting to simply remove Trump at the Convention and run himself.]

    Martin Milner – End of Watch

    Why, yes I am Martin Milner.
    Thank you for noticing.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    Actually you remind me of my uncle in appearance and personality. He was a very (too) nice, highly intelligent professor. He lived to be 90.

    A few years ago, the family was discussing a troubled teen-aged boy. The rest of us thought the kid simply needed some boundaries and discipline. My uncle, though, plaintively asked, "But what is he crying out for?"

    http://m.legacy.com/obituaries/rgj/obituary.aspx?n=&pid=167060451&referrer=0&preview=True
  166. @Whiskey
    Steve, is a nice guy with nice guy attitudes from say, 1963. He's Martin Milner from Adam-12, and that worked well back in 1963. Unfortunately ...

    Why would Hillary stop pouring gasoline on fire? Its worked like crazy for her, the more White cops are killed, or even better for her thinking, White civilians, the more White women just ... surrender.

    The whole point of BLM is Black dominance and humiliation of Whites. Particularly working class White cops, and middle class White Dem politicos. Think of that famous Daily Mail photo of the hulking Black rioter making the skinny White Londoner strip in the riots of 2011. That's it. And it works -- women respond on a visceral level to domination, and vote for whoever is most dominant. Trump probably knows this too which is why he has said nothing.

    This country is RUN BY BLACKS. Paul Kersey's "BRA" concept -- Black concepts and demands and of course top cabinet officials not to mention the President are of over-riding importance to everything else. This includes movies, TV, etc. [At least up until they run into the Wall of Chinese limits to their market for TV and Movies the Chinese not being big on Diversity or Black Worship.]

    Hillary of course like Bill has not an ounce of patriotism and decency and concern for the country. That's Steve's blindspot, and that of most of the Alt-Right -- they expect people to act in a patriotic matter when mostly they don't. The Chinese did not during most of the 19th and 20th Centuries to use one example. A society cannot endure on altruistic patriotism for long -- our current politics is the fault of the failure to bring elites into alignment of interests with ordinary people.

    What's Hillary's downside? A mass murder of Whites by Black Lives Matter people? An Israeli style intifada against Whites by Blacks? If that happened she'd have a twenty point victory over Trump.

    [And yes Paul Ryan is plotting to simply remove Trump at the Convention and run himself.]

    “What’s Hillary’s downside? A mass murder of Whites by Black Lives Matter people? An Israeli style intifada against Whites by Blacks? If that happened she’d have a twenty point victory over Trump.”

    That’s because the American masses hate White people, which includes Nonwhites and self hating Whites who have zero loyalty to their race. Polls have shown that Americans who like Mulignan Lies Matter outnumber Americans who don’t like them. Mulignan Lies Matter have a higher approval rating than Donald Trump among the American people.

  167. @anon
    They're not setting the national agenda.

    The media are manipulating them into violence by pretending that only black people get shot by police.

    The media are setting the agenda.

    Agree wholeheartedly. It is deliberate and there is more to it than simply inciting blacks to riot. Part of the narrative the media is pushing seems intended for whites to “choose a side,” so they will eventually accept militarized law enforcement with the right to harass taxpayers at every turn. The police response to Dallas around here has been to amp up their visible presence. I’ve only seen white people getting pulled over, and I live in an area that’s almost half black. I was pulled over for a BS “rolling stop” charge and the cop had the nerve to bring up Dallas like that was some cue to grovel. He asked if I had weapons on me and made me keep my hands on the wheel for a bit. I’m a white woman in my 20s driving a nice, nondescript car. I was polite even though I was annoyed and he was pretty aggressive. I just knew extra policing of “easy targets” would be the result of BLM nonsense. Had a feeling.

    Meanwhile I’ve seen a black guy driving a pick-up with two huge black nationalist flags flying off the back. A first, even for around here.

    The situation over the past few days has me researching shootings by cops. Other than Castile, the most ridiculous shootings have involved whites.

    A mentally ill white woman in Alabama was killed for having a pocket knife after pulling over on a deserted road. She was 5’0 and there were 4 officers, yet she supposedly had them “in fear for their life.” Her family had been the ones who called the police on her, because they thought she was suicidal when she drove away from their home. Some years ago a white, naked college student on LSD was shot by a campus cop in Alabama.

    The end result of all this will be more affirmative action for blacks and other assorted minorities who are able to hitch themselves to the legacy of slavery, and a more submissive, law-enforcement/military worshipping white population. A win for the elites.

  168. The mayor suggested tightening the state’s laws to make it tougher to carry long arms in public

    Unless I miss my guess, the mayor has been free throughout his term to try and enact legislation in his municipality to make it tougher to carry long arms in public.

    Just so everyone knows, it takes about 5 to 10 seconds to attach a separated AR upper and lower and you’re rockin and rollin. Somebody who practices a lot could shave a few seconds off of that. In the case of the AK platform, many of them have folding stocks. So, the racist African-American maniac could have gotten into position with his gun in a gym or racket bag.

    Off-hand I can’t think of anyone smarter than you (except Henry James, who was so smart he made sure he’d been dead for a century before this nonsense broke out). And yet, absent any evidence whatsoever, you repeatedly ascribe to the immoral and amoral the stringent moral precepts by which you apparently live your life.

    It’s astonishing.

    Well, his observation can serve as a red-pilling kind of rhetoric that raises uncomfortable questions. Which can be enhanced by replies like yours, for that matter…

    Being a mere pseudonymous commenter, I tend to be much more blunt and just announce that blacks don’t have any shame. In fact, I think whites’ capacity for shame must arise from a fragile genetic substrate, given how little black admixture it seems to take to eradicate it.

    % of population distributed at IQ 85 and lower:

    44% of blacks

    It was 50% of American blacks at 85 IQ or lower (African black populations trend substantially lower), last I heard, and if blacks had suddenly seen a large hike in their mean IQ, I think I’d have heard about it.

    I don’t blame the guy for that so much as I blame the military for putting women in the war zones. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

    Well, I’ve long refused to allow Yankees to blame America’s black disaster on Southerners, seeing how it was the Union that invaded the south to make it happen, and Dixie fought the bloodiest war in American history to prevent them. So, I suppose I can’t disagree with you.

  169. Whiskey’s political radar is attuned as ever; Paul Ryan has dropped 30 points to 43% among his own party in his own state, and is no doubt now sweating Nehlen. God willing, he’ll be Cantored.

    • Replies: @CJ
    If he's Cantored then he'll have to run for President :) .
  170. @Whiskey
    Steve, is a nice guy with nice guy attitudes from say, 1963. He's Martin Milner from Adam-12, and that worked well back in 1963. Unfortunately ...

    Why would Hillary stop pouring gasoline on fire? Its worked like crazy for her, the more White cops are killed, or even better for her thinking, White civilians, the more White women just ... surrender.

    The whole point of BLM is Black dominance and humiliation of Whites. Particularly working class White cops, and middle class White Dem politicos. Think of that famous Daily Mail photo of the hulking Black rioter making the skinny White Londoner strip in the riots of 2011. That's it. And it works -- women respond on a visceral level to domination, and vote for whoever is most dominant. Trump probably knows this too which is why he has said nothing.

    This country is RUN BY BLACKS. Paul Kersey's "BRA" concept -- Black concepts and demands and of course top cabinet officials not to mention the President are of over-riding importance to everything else. This includes movies, TV, etc. [At least up until they run into the Wall of Chinese limits to their market for TV and Movies the Chinese not being big on Diversity or Black Worship.]

    Hillary of course like Bill has not an ounce of patriotism and decency and concern for the country. That's Steve's blindspot, and that of most of the Alt-Right -- they expect people to act in a patriotic matter when mostly they don't. The Chinese did not during most of the 19th and 20th Centuries to use one example. A society cannot endure on altruistic patriotism for long -- our current politics is the fault of the failure to bring elites into alignment of interests with ordinary people.

    What's Hillary's downside? A mass murder of Whites by Black Lives Matter people? An Israeli style intifada against Whites by Blacks? If that happened she'd have a twenty point victory over Trump.

    [And yes Paul Ryan is plotting to simply remove Trump at the Convention and run himself.]

    Whiskey, you make the same mistake as Paul Kersey. Blacks do not run anything in USA. You two are getting brownshirts ( in this case, black boots on the ground) mixed up with real power. That would be Soros, who funds BLM and the money behind Democrats, which is about 80% of big corporations and banks.
    Though you’re probably right about Ryan and Romney planning to remove Trump at the convention. My prediction is that Trump had those chumps figured out months ago and already has a counter-attack ready.

    • Replies: @L Woods
    "Kersey" knows that perfectly well. The term "Black Run America" asserts that the system is run FOR blacks, not that it's run BY them (the author has explained this distinction in the past, though not frequently). The term "Black Run America" is indeed a bit simplistic and misleading to be sure, but it serves its purpose well enough in swatting the 'oppressed black' narrative off of its pedestal.
    , @Jefferson
    "Blacks do not run anything in USA."

    That is extremely misleading. Blacks don't run America as a whole, but they run pockets of America, the extremely undesirable pockets. Are you telling me White people run Detroit and Jackson, Mississippi for example?
  171. @Whiskey
    Steve, is a nice guy with nice guy attitudes from say, 1963. He's Martin Milner from Adam-12, and that worked well back in 1963. Unfortunately ...

    Why would Hillary stop pouring gasoline on fire? Its worked like crazy for her, the more White cops are killed, or even better for her thinking, White civilians, the more White women just ... surrender.

    The whole point of BLM is Black dominance and humiliation of Whites. Particularly working class White cops, and middle class White Dem politicos. Think of that famous Daily Mail photo of the hulking Black rioter making the skinny White Londoner strip in the riots of 2011. That's it. And it works -- women respond on a visceral level to domination, and vote for whoever is most dominant. Trump probably knows this too which is why he has said nothing.

    This country is RUN BY BLACKS. Paul Kersey's "BRA" concept -- Black concepts and demands and of course top cabinet officials not to mention the President are of over-riding importance to everything else. This includes movies, TV, etc. [At least up until they run into the Wall of Chinese limits to their market for TV and Movies the Chinese not being big on Diversity or Black Worship.]

    Hillary of course like Bill has not an ounce of patriotism and decency and concern for the country. That's Steve's blindspot, and that of most of the Alt-Right -- they expect people to act in a patriotic matter when mostly they don't. The Chinese did not during most of the 19th and 20th Centuries to use one example. A society cannot endure on altruistic patriotism for long -- our current politics is the fault of the failure to bring elites into alignment of interests with ordinary people.

    What's Hillary's downside? A mass murder of Whites by Black Lives Matter people? An Israeli style intifada against Whites by Blacks? If that happened she'd have a twenty point victory over Trump.

    [And yes Paul Ryan is plotting to simply remove Trump at the Convention and run himself.]

    it is true that our current politics results from the failure to bring elites into alignment of interests with ordinary people.

    But the BLM movement has gone too far, they will scare millions of whites to vote Republican and will actually convince many Asian and Hispanics to vote republican.

    it is notable that the Cop in Minnesota was Hispanic. There have been other cases of Asian officers killing blacks…While the BLM movement implies all the violent cops are white, the Latino and Asian people are realizing that they will be treated as whites by the Black movements, thus many of them will begin to vote republican. They realize that America is a Black -White Nation…a place where Hispanics and Asians will be treated by whites , just ask George Zimmerman.

    another good week for Trump, as the coalition of the fringes has gone loco. Killing White police because a Mexican Cop killed an armed black man reaching for his gun in Minneapolis.

  172. “Blacks with one White parent.”

    I see what you did there. Nicely put, Steve. One drop . . . still rules.

  173. Rumored potential Trump VP pick. Mentioned on CBS Sunday that Clinton has been decisive by blaming whites. Look for him to make similar point tomorrow.

    This will be the first time the Acela set will be exposed to this message by someone they can’t immediately dismiss.

  174. e says:
    @Cwhatfuture
    "Hillary has been playing with fire"

    Hillary does not care. She would rather see the country burn - as long as she wins. If BLM keeps blacks from realizing that unlimited immigration is harming them, then Hillary is for the most massive and disruptive and violent protests possible. The only danger for her is Bernie deciding to run on a third party. Bernie is just stupid enough - and he is unintelligent - to believe this is a mass uprising akin to Petrograd 1917.

    Even Mr. Rogers would have stood up to those two bitches who took his microphone in Seattle. True, unlike the Donald, who would have shouted, rightly so, “Get them the hell outta here,” Mr. Rogers would likely have lectured them on their bad manners and their inattention to being good citizens, but he would have stood up to them. Not so testosterone-less Bernie. I can’t understand voters of any stripe giving him serious consideration for ANY job after THAT show of cowardice.

    Some events can, in retrospect, be seen as those which slow movements or give them impetus. We know which one the one in Seattle was.

  175. e says:

    Were it not for the media, starting recently with their purposeful hiding of the facts in the Geo Zimmerman case, this wouldn’t be happening.

    It’s time to turn metaphorical fire on them, on every reporter, every editor, every network. Even Brit Hume, he who is very critical of Obama and BLM, still seems not to know that it wasn’t a white cop in MN who shot the driver. The simplest of “facts” are misreported again and again by all of the media. The overall narratives are, as we all know, just plain false. The ABC reporter responsible for misleading everyone in the early stages of the Zimmerman-Martin story should have been excoriated publicly and forced out of the business, should have been a lesson to every damn reporter and editor of what could happen to their careers.

    They are most responsible for the mess the country is in, whether it’s inaccurate reporting about economic numbers or inaccurate reporting about the events of the last few weeks.

    They are in the entertainment business and it has to stop. Somehow the rest of us have to figure out a way to bring back journalism or failing that, put the bastards out of business altogether. Sure, newspapers have died, but inaccurate and misleading “reporting” and those who make a living out of it seem NOT to have died. They simply moved to new mediums.

    I’m having a hard time finding any reason at all to see the American media as any different from PRAVDA.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    The ABC reporter responsible for misleading everyone in the early stages of the Zimmerman-Martin story should have been excoriated publicly and forced out of the business, should have been a lesson to every damn reporter and editor of what could happen to their careers.
     
    Don't hold your breath. By that standard the MSM outlet would have to close up shop. They universally put up that picture of a 12-year old Trayvon Martin essentially reporting that Trayvon was a boy, which is just a flat out lie. (This was a fight--charitably--between two young men. More accurately a beat down, followed by a last ditch shot.) Heck they *still* have those pictures up on Trayvon stories even though more accurate twitter pics of wannabe gangbanger Trayvon are out there. It is simply flat out propaganda which is what they do.
    , @Paul Mendez

    Somehow the rest of us have to figure out a way to bring back journalism or failing that, put the bastards out of business altogether.
     
    It's simple. Boycott the media completely. No newspaper or magazine subscriptions. Use ad-blocking software. No cable or Netflix. Don't go to movies.

    I practice what I preach. Occasionally, I buy used DVDs at Goodwill. And I'll pay to see a movie by someone like Dinesh D'Souza I want to support.

    And, of course, I donate to iSteve and similar bloggers.
  176. @Jefferson
    According to this pew research poll, only 28 percent of Whites oppose Black Lies Matter.
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/08/how-americans-view-the-black-lives-matter-movement/

    Or in other words only 28 percent of Whites are racial tribalists/racially aware.

    We Whites can be our own worst enemies.

    If that stat is even close to being true, then we are too far gone. Back in the 70’s, white people, even moderately liberal ones, were well aware of black crime and dysfunction and what black nationalists really wanted. People had lived through race riots in dozens of cities and white folks generally understood that black rage equalled black violence and crime.
    Hollywood and the media went to work and have spent the past 40 years manipulating public opinion, which leads to results like this.
    For those hoping for some sort of major white backlash… keep dreaming.

  177. @Steve Richter
    you have to be impressed with the ability of Blacks to set the national agenda. And to do it in an emperor has no clothes kind of way. One of the weird things is successful Blacks have no problems with the police. And yet they are in complete alliance with the dysfunctional Blacks. Which is the opposite of how Whites behave. Successful Whites have no sympathy for White trash.

    That’s like saying I have to be impressed by spoiled brats who have their way with indulgent parents. No, they’re bad parents, is all.

  178. @Hereward
    Roissy's example looks like a female version of Strelnikov from Dr. Zhivago.

    Resting bitch face, indeed.

  179. Or, is it spelled raquet? Brain’s getting old.

  180. @BB753
    Whiskey, you make the same mistake as Paul Kersey. Blacks do not run anything in USA. You two are getting brownshirts ( in this case, black boots on the ground) mixed up with real power. That would be Soros, who funds BLM and the money behind Democrats, which is about 80% of big corporations and banks.
    Though you're probably right about Ryan and Romney planning to remove Trump at the convention. My prediction is that Trump had those chumps figured out months ago and already has a counter-attack ready.

    “Kersey” knows that perfectly well. The term “Black Run America” asserts that the system is run FOR blacks, not that it’s run BY them (the author has explained this distinction in the past, though not frequently). The term “Black Run America” is indeed a bit simplistic and misleading to be sure, but it serves its purpose well enough in swatting the ‘oppressed black’ narrative off of its pedestal.

  181. @JerryC

    Hillary has been playing fire.
     
    Has she been? The media is there to make sure that no one (except extremist crimethinkers like the people who read this blog) ever draws a connection between Hillary/Obama, BLM and events like the Dallaa shootings. It hasn't rebounded on them so far. What does Hillary have to fear? Someone draw this out for me, I really don't know what it would take for the Democrats to pay a political price for all this hate they've been stirring up.

    … what it would take for the Democrats to pay a political price for all this hate they’ve been stirring up.

    It would take a Republican party\candidates who actually confront the narrative straight on. That unfortunately we have been completely lacking for at least a generation or more.

    Obama has been shit stirring black rage for several years–it’s about the only part of his presidency he seems interested in–outside of occasionally lecturing whites on Islam–and the “opposition” party can’t even bother to show up and say “Obama’s shit stirring and it’s leading to high crime and more bodies in the streets”.

    Instead Paul Ryan is the official face of the “opposition” party.

  182. @Jefferson
    "This is too good not to report: #BLM aka #BlackLivesMatter has a new hashtag:

    #CutForBlackLives

    That’s right, if you are white, your penance is to cut yourself. The wittiest rejoinder I have seen so far, is that, if you are going to do this, just make sure you make the cut across your throat:"

    The Black woman said how about cut us a reperations check instead

    Go ask your White Jewish master George Soros for a reperations check, after all he is richer than God and there was also Jewish participation in the African slave trade.

    The Black woman said how about cut us a reperations check instead

    I’m perfectly ok with reparations:

    If an American black is willing to *give up* the huge unearned benefit that they have received by their (African) ancestors being transported free of charge to the US–i.e. give up their American citizenship–then i, American taxpayer, would be happy to pay to transport them back to Africa and give them a generous stipend (say $100k) in reparation for the burden of being born in this racist society.

    • Agree: Kylie
  183. @Diversity Heretic
    I'm an expat but I recognize that's not a solution. But from where I sit I have no desire to return to the United States permanently. There are personal reasons for my expat status, but also geopolitical ones: I no longer feel that large portions of the population of the United States are my countrymen. That's a long personal journey for a guy who used to choke up singing America the Beautiful. I think that I would have difficulty reciting the Pledge of Allegiance or honoring the flag of this wreckage of a Republic.

    “I no longer feel that large portions of the population of the United States are my countrymen. That’s a long personal journey for a guy who used to choke up singing America the Beautiful. I think that I would have difficulty reciting the Pledge of Allegiance or honoring the flag of this wreckage of a Republic.”

    Thank you. That is exactly how I feel. I’ve lost the home that I loved to distraction. I live in the country in which I was born. But I’m a stranger in a strange land.

    The sense of betrayal is deep and corrosive. I’ll never get over it.

  184. @Steve Sailer
    http://imgur.com/gallery/r1t66P7

    Why, yes I am Martin Milner.
    Thank you for noticing.

    Actually you remind me of my uncle in appearance and personality. He was a very (too) nice, highly intelligent professor. He lived to be 90.

    A few years ago, the family was discussing a troubled teen-aged boy. The rest of us thought the kid simply needed some boundaries and discipline. My uncle, though, plaintively asked, “But what is he crying out for?”

    http://m.legacy.com/obituaries/rgj/obituary.aspx?n=&pid=167060451&referrer=0&preview=True

  185. @Jefferson
    "Because of demographic change, Trump will need 65% to win. Put another way, Trump needs the votes of roughly 1 in 10 of the white voters who are in the left-most 39% of whites."

    How many states does Donald Trump need to win at least 65 percent of the White vote in order to become the next POTUS? Do you think he can win at least 65 percent of the White vote in Florida, North Carolina, Nevada, and Ohio?

    “Because of demographic change, Trump will need 65% to win.

    Lot is wrong. Trump does not need 65% of the white vote to win.

    He does need to do better than Romney–whom i’m unconvinced even got to 60%–plus do another 1% better for demographic change.

    But the big issue is turnout. Romney’s problem was that white people were not particularly energized to vote *for* Romney, and many didn’t feel it was wise–or worthwhile given Romney–to dump the first black President. While blacks turned out strongly to vote for one of their own.

    Furthermore Romney had problems with both percentage and turnout precisely in midwest where he had to win to make up for demographic change out West. He couldn’t take back Iowa or Ohio without which he could not win even if he’d been able to take back Florida and Virginia. Republicans simply can not with without winning Ohio.

    Do you think he can win at least 65 percent of the White vote in Florida, North Carolina, Nevada, and Ohio?

    Trump will win 65% of the white vote in North Carolina–unless he just doesn’t get his act together and is blown out. Florida and Nevada are reachable. And 65% is about what Trump must do to win those states. Trump probably won’t get 65% in Ohio unless he’s landsliding, but he does not need to to win. Ohio is not a minority heavy state. A solid 60% will do it.

    Not a big fan of such reductionism–love for Trump to get a nationwide nationalist mandate–but realistically this election boils down to Florida, Pennsylvania and Ohio. (Pennsylvania which has been reliably Democrat in presidential elections, but was only 52-47 in 2012, is a state with very similar demographics to Ohio. It is diversifying rapidly but not yet highly minority, still a solidly white state. ) There are other plausible paths for Trump grabbing back some other whitetopia states along with retaking Virginia or Colorado, but they don’t look very plausible. Basically Trump must hold the Romney map–which he should do–and win those three. Failure to do so, he’s done.

    That Trump’s “nationalism” has more appeal to midwestern working class whites than whatever you call the thin gruel Romney was serving, is certainly one reason the “cosmopolitan globalist” media has been all in to make him a beyond the pale racist.

    And I’d imagine that Hillary clinging to BLM is that she is worried about black turnout for her post-Obama. If blacks think “well that’s over now” and lay back and smoke a cigarette … Hillary would be road kill in those three critical states. Her firewall against the globalist media failing to scare white middle class women away from Trump is blacks turning out. If blacks are ho-hum about the election, Hillary loses FL, PA, OH and the election.

  186. @SPMoore8
    Sorry you feel alienated. In many ways, I do too. But we aren't going to get anywhere talking about excluding from "US" any particular part of our population, whether it be due to race or ethnicity or just plain stupidity.

    I mean, we could also just do nothing and let the trolley run over Miss Liberty. That seems to be what's happening anyway.

    Sorry, SP, but when I put the question to blacks in three different media comment sections, asking why isn’t BLM marching through the South Side of Chicago, where 115 of their co-ethnics were shot this past weekend, and they ALL respond with the same answer, that BLM is about YT killing black bodies, I’m at a loss as to whether I want to share the solar system with these people, never mind the planet.

    As the Good Book says, come see me about that mote when your log is taken care of.

    • Agree: Kylie
  187. @pink_point
    If you ask those Somali why they should be in the US instead of Somalia, you'll hear "Because colonialism" as the most likely response.

    Fine. Off to England, France and Italy with them.

  188. @snootybaronet
    I suspect the upper echelon of BLM is controlled by white Leftists of the Bill Ayers variety, stoking the fire to facilitate "revolutionary change". The Leftist elected officials are confident that their white Leftist agents within BLM can manipulate and control the violent throngs of black foot soldiers. BHO, Hillary etc see the Dallas massacre as a minor inconvenience that does not invalidate the overall strategy.

    “I suspect the upper echelon of BLM is controlled by white Leftists of the Bill Ayers variety,”

    Makes sense because on average Black Homosexuals don’t have much disposable income, so it’s White seed money that helps keep Black Lies Matter alive. It’s the White Homosexuals that have the disposable income. Studies have shown that Gay White males are the most affluent subgroup of the LGBTQ community. Gay POC have a sky high poverty rate.

    The reason I bring up Black Homos is because BLM was not started by Black Heterosexuals.

  189. @Anon
    I'd crawl through a dumpster fire to vote for Trump. That said, I work for a very liberal software company. I tell everyone I know that I will vote for Hillary if they ask me point blank.

    I’d crawl through a dumpster fire to vote for Trump. That said, I work for a very liberal software company. I tell everyone I know that I will vote for Hillary if they ask me point blank.

    Don’t do this. I’m not saying wear your “Make America Great Again” cap around, like i do. But stand up for yourself. The SJW mentality is like mushrooms or fungus, it thrives in an environment without much light. It thrives by forcing conformity and making everyone believe that only SJW thinking is acceptable.

    You may think everyone is nonetheless thinking their own independent thoughts. But it doesn’t work that way. People–when there is no alternative–conform. Particularly women.

    Here’s my suggestion, for dealing with a general hostile environment. Don’t push, but be open if asked. And have some *very simple* explanations, that cut through the bullshit:

    — “I’m not a self hating white man.”

    — “I want to pass on to my kids the sort of America i had”
    Extended: “White nations are nice–as you can see by all the non-white people trying to break into them. I want my kids to grow up in one.”

    — “I think every American deserves a job, even people who don’t have high IQs and don’t go to college. Illegal immigration takes away *their* working class jobs, while making the rich, richer.

    — “Open immigration is heading us toward being Brazil. The rich, super rich. The poor super poor. That sucks. I want a middle class society.”

    — “I think American kids graduation college, deserve American jobs”.

    — “Automation, AI, robotics is going to destroy a lot of low-skill jobs in the next generation. Importing lots of low skill labor is insane. That’s just more people who are going to be on welfare.”

    — “We are already at 325 million people. as many as when i was born. Headed to 400 million before mid-century. We’ll be at half a *billion*! by the end of the century if we don’t *stop* importing more people. Do you want all that crowding? Sprawl? Sky high housing prices? Seriously? How many people do you want. Want us packed in like India and China? When does it stop?”

    — “Obama and Hillary have been shit stirring black racial anger with this BLM nonsense. Yes, the police do screw up occasionally but this race stuff is nonsense. The cops kill more whites than blacks. Obama and Hillary’s shit stirring is led a big–15% or so–bump in violent crime–thousands more robberies, rapes and murders. All to stoke black anger and gin up votes for Democrats. You think that’s ok? Is that help? Is that public ‘leadership’? I think it’s evil.”

    — “Hillary is the most corrupt candidate either party has ever fielded. She’s openly run her Clinton Foundation shakedown to get rich. She setup a private email server specifically to cheat around the Freedom of Information Act law–so she could escape her own blundering and sleaze. She’s a bought and paid for whore for Wall Street, for Goldman Sachs. I’m not rich finance scum, why should i vote for her?”

    ~
    There, i got you started. Make up your own. Just think through a few quick canned answers you can give that pithily get your point across which having to download the dialectical dissertation that led you to be a Trump guy.

    But don’t let their evil SJW bullshit go unchallenged. Every red-blooded white man–and actually any colored man that likes living in a Western nation–must stand up to this cabal of crazy feminine stupidity and push reality back in their faces … or we’re simply doomed to get washed over the cliff in the SJW flood.

    • Replies: @Paul Mendez

    But don’t let their evil SJW bullshit go unchallenged.
     
    You obviously don't hold an office job. The SJWs at work won't debate you, they'll ruin you.

    I was "let go" from my last job for not sufficiently praising Obama and homosexual marriage during the 2012 elections. Not for criticizing them, mind you, but just for not participating in the general straight white male hatred that passed for office banter. Eventually, however, people noticed my silence and drew their own conclusions.

    Of course, the reason for my firing was given as poor performance. But when your colleagues stop assisting you and actively start sabotaging your projects, it's impossible to get anything done.

    I'm sure it won't surprise anyone that the two homosexuals were the cruelest. (BTW there were no blacks involved, it being a STEM-related organization. All the venom came from whites and Jews.)
  190. @Harry Baldwin
    You don't recognize rhetorical questions or the rhetorical use of sarcasm. You think our host is naive or missing the point because he doesn't state it in a blunt and non-linear manner. This tendency is common among people on the spectrum. It's one of those blind spots that causes you to think other people have a problem when actually you're the one who does.

    I'm not trying to be insulting or sarcastic. One of my daughters has Non-Verbal Learning Disability (NLD) so I recognize it in others.

    You may well be right. I definitely have some blind spots. I’ve never been tested but on the online autism spectrum test where 16 and below is normal and mid-20s and up is autistic, I consistently score in the mid-30s.

    Then there are my obsessions with maps, processes, routines, dates, facts, trivia, etc.

    But in this case, I do think Steve is so forbearing that he might well have thought BLM would pause for a moment out of a sense of decency instead of being even more obnoxious. His “citizenist” thing tells me he’s much more optimistic and idealistic wrt blacks and their potential to be good citizens than I am.

    In any case, thanks for weighing in. I’ve been telling people for years that I don’t process information properly. I’m glad somebody else finally noticed.

  191. @BB753
    Whiskey, you make the same mistake as Paul Kersey. Blacks do not run anything in USA. You two are getting brownshirts ( in this case, black boots on the ground) mixed up with real power. That would be Soros, who funds BLM and the money behind Democrats, which is about 80% of big corporations and banks.
    Though you're probably right about Ryan and Romney planning to remove Trump at the convention. My prediction is that Trump had those chumps figured out months ago and already has a counter-attack ready.

    “Blacks do not run anything in USA.”

    That is extremely misleading. Blacks don’t run America as a whole, but they run pockets of America, the extremely undesirable pockets. Are you telling me White people run Detroit and Jackson, Mississippi for example?

    • Replies: @BB753
    Not sure about Jackson, but Detroit filed for bankruptcy 3 years ago and the state of Michigan took over its finances.
    , @Abe

    That is extremely misleading. Blacks don’t run America as a whole, but they run pockets of America, the extremely undesirable pockets. Are you telling me White people run Detroit and Jackson, Mississippi for example?
     
    What about Cambridge and the state of Massachusetts? Remember the first time Obama inserted himself into a racial psychodrama when his buddy, Skip Gates, was mistaken for a potential burglar by a Cambridge policeman? Everyone in that poor cop's chain-of-command, from President to Attorney General to governor to mayor (not sure about the police chief) was black. That was 7 years ago, and a lot more black police chiefs have been installed since then to "help" racial tensions, in cities both big (Chicago) and small (Ferguson). The death-instinct, exemplified in the need to hand over more and more of their power to certain minorities, is strong in the good-whyte.
    , @Ron Mexico
    Dan Gilbert, Quicken Loans / Cleveland Cavaliers, and his Bedrock Properties have spent $2.2 billion on properties in downtown Detroit, so he technically runs The D. Mike Ilitch, Little Caesars/Detroit RedWings/Detroit Tigers, to a lesser extent.
  192. @Dave Pinsen
    Trump should go to Bristol Tennessee, where that mother of two was murdered by the BLM guy. He ought to personally hand a check for $100k to her family, and make a speech calling for calm.

    By going there, he will force the media to cover the collateral damage of BLM. He can say that like anyone else, he was disturbed by the videos of the two black men shot by cops and he expects the cases to be thoroughly investigated. But that BLM assuming racism is the cause is false [insert stats from Moskos & Mac Donald illustrating why]. And that Dems stoke BLM grievances to divert from their failure to improve the economic position of blacks [insert stats on black unemployment, etc.]. And that it's cynical and evil for them to do so, because it is getting people killed.

    I don’t have the Agree button active, but Dave, your proposed photo op and statement are excellent. I’m more a skewer them and drive the point home kind of guy, but this kinder gentler Donald Trump, which calls attention to the evil Obama\Hillary shit stirring is terrific atmospherics. Trump should listen.

  193. @e
    Were it not for the media, starting recently with their purposeful hiding of the facts in the Geo Zimmerman case, this wouldn't be happening.

    It's time to turn metaphorical fire on them, on every reporter, every editor, every network. Even Brit Hume, he who is very critical of Obama and BLM, still seems not to know that it wasn't a white cop in MN who shot the driver. The simplest of "facts" are misreported again and again by all of the media. The overall narratives are, as we all know, just plain false. The ABC reporter responsible for misleading everyone in the early stages of the Zimmerman-Martin story should have been excoriated publicly and forced out of the business, should have been a lesson to every damn reporter and editor of what could happen to their careers.

    They are most responsible for the mess the country is in, whether it's inaccurate reporting about economic numbers or inaccurate reporting about the events of the last few weeks.

    They are in the entertainment business and it has to stop. Somehow the rest of us have to figure out a way to bring back journalism or failing that, put the bastards out of business altogether. Sure, newspapers have died, but inaccurate and misleading "reporting" and those who make a living out of it seem NOT to have died. They simply moved to new mediums.

    I'm having a hard time finding any reason at all to see the American media as any different from PRAVDA.

    The ABC reporter responsible for misleading everyone in the early stages of the Zimmerman-Martin story should have been excoriated publicly and forced out of the business, should have been a lesson to every damn reporter and editor of what could happen to their careers.

    Don’t hold your breath. By that standard the MSM outlet would have to close up shop. They universally put up that picture of a 12-year old Trayvon Martin essentially reporting that Trayvon was a boy, which is just a flat out lie. (This was a fight–charitably–between two young men. More accurately a beat down, followed by a last ditch shot.) Heck they *still* have those pictures up on Trayvon stories even though more accurate twitter pics of wannabe gangbanger Trayvon are out there. It is simply flat out propaganda which is what they do.

  194. @Anonymous
    Rather off topic but possibly inspiring. I just had dinner with half a dozen small town Canadians. Naturally, they were interested in hearing what an American thought of the news in the last week and of Trump. I said a lot, much of it derived from what people say here. At first, they seemed shocked but as the evening went on, they started finding examples in Canada of the types of problems I'd described. "Trudeau is a glib moron that will bankrupt the country by importing Syrians", "Immigrants want everything free until they can figure out how to earn it in a generation or two", "after two decades of everyone wanting to move to Toronto, all the white people are starting to move out to get away from the diversity" for example. And by the end they were hoping someone like Trump will be found in Canada.

    I grew up here and I have never heard Canadians sound so wholesomely exasperated. They did need to be encouraged by example to say what they felt, but if these people voice support for someone like Trump, Hillary has likely lost a big chunk of the white Democratic vote in the US.

    David, I live across the river from Canada, so we see a lot of Canadians down here. I was collecting parking at a charity event and a car with Ontario plates pulled up. The lady driver handed me a US dollar, I took it, looked at her and handed it back saying….” Here keep this, it is actually still worth something, and with Trudeau in charge you’ll need every cent you can get. ” She looked at me and said “Thanks, isn’t that the truth.” I read an article in the Toronto Globe and Mail about BLM/Canada disrupting the Pride Parade in Toronto. They had a linked article by a BLM/activist who defended their actions in halting the parade. She said, ” Canada has a long violent history…”, which is a total rewrite of Canadian history, but the mind set of these people.

  195. @e
    Were it not for the media, starting recently with their purposeful hiding of the facts in the Geo Zimmerman case, this wouldn't be happening.

    It's time to turn metaphorical fire on them, on every reporter, every editor, every network. Even Brit Hume, he who is very critical of Obama and BLM, still seems not to know that it wasn't a white cop in MN who shot the driver. The simplest of "facts" are misreported again and again by all of the media. The overall narratives are, as we all know, just plain false. The ABC reporter responsible for misleading everyone in the early stages of the Zimmerman-Martin story should have been excoriated publicly and forced out of the business, should have been a lesson to every damn reporter and editor of what could happen to their careers.

    They are most responsible for the mess the country is in, whether it's inaccurate reporting about economic numbers or inaccurate reporting about the events of the last few weeks.

    They are in the entertainment business and it has to stop. Somehow the rest of us have to figure out a way to bring back journalism or failing that, put the bastards out of business altogether. Sure, newspapers have died, but inaccurate and misleading "reporting" and those who make a living out of it seem NOT to have died. They simply moved to new mediums.

    I'm having a hard time finding any reason at all to see the American media as any different from PRAVDA.

    Somehow the rest of us have to figure out a way to bring back journalism or failing that, put the bastards out of business altogether.

    It’s simple. Boycott the media completely. No newspaper or magazine subscriptions. Use ad-blocking software. No cable or Netflix. Don’t go to movies.

    I practice what I preach. Occasionally, I buy used DVDs at Goodwill. And I’ll pay to see a movie by someone like Dinesh D’Souza I want to support.

    And, of course, I donate to iSteve and similar bloggers.

  196. @Steve Richter
    you have to be impressed with the ability of Blacks to set the national agenda. And to do it in an emperor has no clothes kind of way. One of the weird things is successful Blacks have no problems with the police. And yet they are in complete alliance with the dysfunctional Blacks. Which is the opposite of how Whites behave. Successful Whites have no sympathy for White trash.

    Steve R, Successful blacks, who get media face time, love to tell how they were profiled for driving while black or followed by store security while strolling through a Banana Republic store. That’s called ‘ keepin’ it real” with the common folk.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Even Michelle Obama likes to get in on this. She told a story, on the Letterman show IIRC, about how she was shopping at a drug store and a short woman asked her to get her something off the top shelf because she's tall. She presented it as a funny story about someone not recognizing her. Later, she decided to make this into a grievance story, saying the woman asked her to get her something off the top shelf because she assumed she was a sales clerk.

    The president has implied that he's been mistaken for a valet while smoking outside a restaurant. The horror!

    I've been mistaken for all sorts of things but survived without psychic trauma.

  197. @Svigor
    Whiskey's political radar is attuned as ever; Paul Ryan has dropped 30 points to 43% among his own party in his own state, and is no doubt now sweating Nehlen. God willing, he'll be Cantored.

    If he’s Cantored then he’ll have to run for President 🙂 .

  198. @AnotherDad

    I’d crawl through a dumpster fire to vote for Trump. That said, I work for a very liberal software company. I tell everyone I know that I will vote for Hillary if they ask me point blank.
     
    Don't do this. I'm not saying wear your "Make America Great Again" cap around, like i do. But stand up for yourself. The SJW mentality is like mushrooms or fungus, it thrives in an environment without much light. It thrives by forcing conformity and making everyone believe that only SJW thinking is acceptable.

    You may think everyone is nonetheless thinking their own independent thoughts. But it doesn't work that way. People--when there is no alternative--conform. Particularly women.

    Here's my suggestion, for dealing with a general hostile environment. Don't push, but be open if asked. And have some *very simple* explanations, that cut through the bullshit:

    -- "I'm not a self hating white man."

    -- "I want to pass on to my kids the sort of America i had"
    Extended: "White nations are nice--as you can see by all the non-white people trying to break into them. I want my kids to grow up in one."

    -- "I think every American deserves a job, even people who don't have high IQs and don't go to college. Illegal immigration takes away *their* working class jobs, while making the rich, richer.

    -- "Open immigration is heading us toward being Brazil. The rich, super rich. The poor super poor. That sucks. I want a middle class society."

    -- "I think American kids graduation college, deserve American jobs".

    -- "Automation, AI, robotics is going to destroy a lot of low-skill jobs in the next generation. Importing lots of low skill labor is insane. That's just more people who are going to be on welfare."

    -- "We are already at 325 million people. as many as when i was born. Headed to 400 million before mid-century. We'll be at half a *billion*! by the end of the century if we don't *stop* importing more people. Do you want all that crowding? Sprawl? Sky high housing prices? Seriously? How many people do you want. Want us packed in like India and China? When does it stop?"

    -- "Obama and Hillary have been shit stirring black racial anger with this BLM nonsense. Yes, the police do screw up occasionally but this race stuff is nonsense. The cops kill more whites than blacks. Obama and Hillary's shit stirring is led a big--15% or so--bump in violent crime--thousands more robberies, rapes and murders. All to stoke black anger and gin up votes for Democrats. You think that's ok? Is that help? Is that public 'leadership'? I think it's evil."

    -- "Hillary is the most corrupt candidate either party has ever fielded. She's openly run her Clinton Foundation shakedown to get rich. She setup a private email server specifically to cheat around the Freedom of Information Act law--so she could escape her own blundering and sleaze. She's a bought and paid for whore for Wall Street, for Goldman Sachs. I'm not rich finance scum, why should i vote for her?"

    ~
    There, i got you started. Make up your own. Just think through a few quick canned answers you can give that pithily get your point across which having to download the dialectical dissertation that led you to be a Trump guy.

    But don't let their evil SJW bullshit go unchallenged. Every red-blooded white man--and actually any colored man that likes living in a Western nation--must stand up to this cabal of crazy feminine stupidity and push reality back in their faces ... or we're simply doomed to get washed over the cliff in the SJW flood.

    But don’t let their evil SJW bullshit go unchallenged.

    You obviously don’t hold an office job. The SJWs at work won’t debate you, they’ll ruin you.

    I was “let go” from my last job for not sufficiently praising Obama and homosexual marriage during the 2012 elections. Not for criticizing them, mind you, but just for not participating in the general straight white male hatred that passed for office banter. Eventually, however, people noticed my silence and drew their own conclusions.

    Of course, the reason for my firing was given as poor performance. But when your colleagues stop assisting you and actively start sabotaging your projects, it’s impossible to get anything done.

    I’m sure it won’t surprise anyone that the two homosexuals were the cruelest. (BTW there were no blacks involved, it being a STEM-related organization. All the venom came from whites and Jews.)

    • Replies: @BB753
    It's my experience as well.. Homos are absolutely ruthless in harassing at work heterosexuals not wholly on board with their gay agenda, including gay marriage and adoption. And there's usually an entire cabal of homosexuals in every office.
    , @Jefferson
    "I’m sure it won’t surprise anyone that the two homosexuals were the cruelest. (BTW there were no blacks involved, it being a STEM-related organization."

    But in Hollywood films at least 50 percent of all STEM workers are Black.
    , @BB753
    Here's a solution to your conundrum..
    Tell them you'll vote for Hillary, but for all the wrong reasons:
    "I like the way Hillary is standing up for African Americans and making them revolt against the Man. Burn baby burn! "
    " Hillary will make sure persons of vibrancy can finally afford to live in our diversity-deprived neighborhoods via section 8 vouchers. I can't wait to be enriched with Blacks and Hispanics, and so should you. "
    " Trump is a maverick who can't be trusted. With Hillary we know Wall Street will feel comfortable and not panic. "
    " I'm not voting Trump, he's too chummy with Putin. We need to nuke the damn Russians"
    " With Hillary, we can be sure we'll stay in the Middle East for decades protecting out vital interests there, and maybe bomb Syria and help Israel deport yet more Palestinians. "
    And so on...
    In a word, troll them in a way they won't be able to reply. And make them question their choice.
  199. @Buffalo Joe
    Steve R, Successful blacks, who get media face time, love to tell how they were profiled for driving while black or followed by store security while strolling through a Banana Republic store. That's called ' keepin' it real" with the common folk.

    Even Michelle Obama likes to get in on this. She told a story, on the Letterman show IIRC, about how she was shopping at a drug store and a short woman asked her to get her something off the top shelf because she’s tall. She presented it as a funny story about someone not recognizing her. Later, she decided to make this into a grievance story, saying the woman asked her to get her something off the top shelf because she assumed she was a sales clerk.

    The president has implied that he’s been mistaken for a valet while smoking outside a restaurant. The horror!

    I’ve been mistaken for all sorts of things but survived without psychic trauma.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "The president has implied that he’s been mistaken for a valet while smoking outside a restaurant. The horror!"

    There is not too many Black valets where I live. Lots of Mexican valets though. George Lopez has a higher chance than Kevin Durant of being mistaken for a valet in my neck of the woods. Not too many Black Californians want to be valets.
  200. @Paul Mendez

    But don’t let their evil SJW bullshit go unchallenged.
     
    You obviously don't hold an office job. The SJWs at work won't debate you, they'll ruin you.

    I was "let go" from my last job for not sufficiently praising Obama and homosexual marriage during the 2012 elections. Not for criticizing them, mind you, but just for not participating in the general straight white male hatred that passed for office banter. Eventually, however, people noticed my silence and drew their own conclusions.

    Of course, the reason for my firing was given as poor performance. But when your colleagues stop assisting you and actively start sabotaging your projects, it's impossible to get anything done.

    I'm sure it won't surprise anyone that the two homosexuals were the cruelest. (BTW there were no blacks involved, it being a STEM-related organization. All the venom came from whites and Jews.)

    It’s my experience as well.. Homos are absolutely ruthless in harassing at work heterosexuals not wholly on board with their gay agenda, including gay marriage and adoption. And there’s usually an entire cabal of homosexuals in every office.

  201. @Jefferson
    "Blacks do not run anything in USA."

    That is extremely misleading. Blacks don't run America as a whole, but they run pockets of America, the extremely undesirable pockets. Are you telling me White people run Detroit and Jackson, Mississippi for example?

    Not sure about Jackson, but Detroit filed for bankruptcy 3 years ago and the state of Michigan took over its finances.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Not sure about Jackson, but Detroit filed for bankruptcy 3 years ago"

    And why did Detroit file for bankruptcy? It wasn't because of too many White people running the show there.
  202. @BB753
    Not sure about Jackson, but Detroit filed for bankruptcy 3 years ago and the state of Michigan took over its finances.

    “Not sure about Jackson, but Detroit filed for bankruptcy 3 years ago”

    And why did Detroit file for bankruptcy? It wasn’t because of too many White people running the show there.

  203. @Paul Mendez

    But don’t let their evil SJW bullshit go unchallenged.
     
    You obviously don't hold an office job. The SJWs at work won't debate you, they'll ruin you.

    I was "let go" from my last job for not sufficiently praising Obama and homosexual marriage during the 2012 elections. Not for criticizing them, mind you, but just for not participating in the general straight white male hatred that passed for office banter. Eventually, however, people noticed my silence and drew their own conclusions.

    Of course, the reason for my firing was given as poor performance. But when your colleagues stop assisting you and actively start sabotaging your projects, it's impossible to get anything done.

    I'm sure it won't surprise anyone that the two homosexuals were the cruelest. (BTW there were no blacks involved, it being a STEM-related organization. All the venom came from whites and Jews.)

    “I’m sure it won’t surprise anyone that the two homosexuals were the cruelest. (BTW there were no blacks involved, it being a STEM-related organization.”

    But in Hollywood films at least 50 percent of all STEM workers are Black.

  204. Abe says: • Website
    @Jefferson
    "Blacks do not run anything in USA."

    That is extremely misleading. Blacks don't run America as a whole, but they run pockets of America, the extremely undesirable pockets. Are you telling me White people run Detroit and Jackson, Mississippi for example?

    That is extremely misleading. Blacks don’t run America as a whole, but they run pockets of America, the extremely undesirable pockets. Are you telling me White people run Detroit and Jackson, Mississippi for example?

    What about Cambridge and the state of Massachusetts? Remember the first time Obama inserted himself into a racial psychodrama when his buddy, Skip Gates, was mistaken for a potential burglar by a Cambridge policeman? Everyone in that poor cop’s chain-of-command, from President to Attorney General to governor to mayor (not sure about the police chief) was black. That was 7 years ago, and a lot more black police chiefs have been installed since then to “help” racial tensions, in cities both big (Chicago) and small (Ferguson). The death-instinct, exemplified in the need to hand over more and more of their power to certain minorities, is strong in the good-whyte.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    Don't kid yourself, Abe. Like all SWPL places, Cambridge doesn't leave the operation of the city to the unwashed. The mayor is a ceremonial position used to virtue signal, and the city is run by a city manager, an Italian guy, who makes more than Boston's mayor. The Cambridge police commissioner has been some flavor of Irish guy for as long as I can remember.
  205. “The upper reaches of BLM are mostly Obama-style quasi-black exotics on the career hustle: gays (e.g., DeRay), angry lesbians, wealthy black kids, black studies majors, blacks with one white parent or immigrant elite parents … the kind of educated individuals that the Clinton campaign and mainstream media are comfortable dealing with.”

    Strange parallels with the Haitian Revolution. It was the educated and affluent mixed-race planter class that really got the whole thing started there, but once Dutty Boukman sacrificed a swine to the gods of Africa in the Alligator Woods, the darker contingent took over and the raping and looting really got going.

    • Replies: @Ed
    This isn't true about the Haitian Revolutuon it was decidedly started & led by blacks. They hated the mulattoes, many fled with the whites to USA & became part of the Creoles in New Orleans.
  206. @Harry Baldwin
    Even Michelle Obama likes to get in on this. She told a story, on the Letterman show IIRC, about how she was shopping at a drug store and a short woman asked her to get her something off the top shelf because she's tall. She presented it as a funny story about someone not recognizing her. Later, she decided to make this into a grievance story, saying the woman asked her to get her something off the top shelf because she assumed she was a sales clerk.

    The president has implied that he's been mistaken for a valet while smoking outside a restaurant. The horror!

    I've been mistaken for all sorts of things but survived without psychic trauma.

    “The president has implied that he’s been mistaken for a valet while smoking outside a restaurant. The horror!”

    There is not too many Black valets where I live. Lots of Mexican valets though. George Lopez has a higher chance than Kevin Durant of being mistaken for a valet in my neck of the woods. Not too many Black Californians want to be valets.

  207. @Anon
    Zero Hedge also said that Soros only gave Hillary 1 million directly. If he gave BLM 33 million, that says something interesting about his priorities. He's far more interested in stirring up anarchy than in getting Hillary elected.

    It could be just that the bang for the buck, so to speak, is higher in funding BLM. Hillary won’t be short of money. Plus maybe he doesn’t need any favors from her on a micro level, or, if he does, figures he’s already given enough.

  208. @Lot

    including the 1/3 of Americans with IQ’s below 85 (or whatever the actual percentage is. )
     
    21.1% of Americans have IQs 85 or less.

    It only seems so much more.

  209. @Jefferson
    "Blacks do not run anything in USA."

    That is extremely misleading. Blacks don't run America as a whole, but they run pockets of America, the extremely undesirable pockets. Are you telling me White people run Detroit and Jackson, Mississippi for example?

    Dan Gilbert, Quicken Loans / Cleveland Cavaliers, and his Bedrock Properties have spent $2.2 billion on properties in downtown Detroit, so he technically runs The D. Mike Ilitch, Little Caesars/Detroit RedWings/Detroit Tigers, to a lesser extent.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Dan Gilbert, Quicken Loans / Cleveland Cavaliers, and his Bedrock Properties have spent $2.2 billion on properties in downtown Detroit, so he technically runs The D. Mike Ilitch, Little Caesars/Detroit RedWings/Detroit Tigers, to a lesser extent."

    Detroit's city council is overwhelmingly Black.
    http://www.detroitmi.gov/Government/City-Council

    Detroit's police chief is Black.
    http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2015/12/01/police-chief-says-armed-detroit-cut-terror-risk/76592116/

    Detroit's board of education is all Black.
    http://detroit.k12.mi.us/board/members/

    Detroit's elite is not a Whitopia. It's not a White minority elite ruling over a majority Negro population.

  210. @SPMoore8
    Someone suggested that Trump might not get the nomination. There hasn't been a GOP nomination with any suspense since maybe 1964 (the first one I watched, maybe I was just kidding myself.)

    I would agree that several other GOP contenders could probably beat Hillary. She is basically campaigning on the "I am the lesser evil!" platform.

    It's not that I wouldn't accept Trump as POTUS or vote for him. I think his lack of political experience and his lack of rhetorical control hurt him, and I think those lacks will hurt him in November. I really don't see him winning, and when my friends in business (including Jewish Trump supporters, BTW, who couldn't care less about six pointed stars) talk about how close he is to Hillary, I must admit my skepticism.

    What can I say, I feel that, as a nation, we are in a bad way. But one thing that is a non-starter is this idea that we can re-introduce segregation and that it will somehow work out if we do so. That's just a huge fail in the general electorate and in the evolution of the western mind. If someone wants to repudiate 200 years of evolution in this area, they've got a long haul to look forward to. That is why I think Steve is right and we have to invoke "citizenism" or whatever the label is. We can have the same de facto segregation that we have now, we don't have to rig the results, but we do have to get along. If that means we have to work at it, so be it. That's our social contract.

    all good points.

    Since so much of “me” is linked to Europe/Finland in particular, I have always voted for presidents according to their view of the larger world beyond the shores of our coasts. So many presidents have been very “Bubba”- like to me, and the rest have had axes to grind…as far as their ideology, perceptions, or just plain knowledge of Europe, and the rest of the world. Besides Eisenhower (I was not even alive then!), there has never been a really erudite, cosmopolitan American president, much to my dismay…Notice: deliberate use of the word, ‘cosmopolitan, ‘ with no reference to one of my favorite vodka drinks.

    GHWB was close to being a cosmogirl, but because of his immense ties to the CIA , and the fact that he was part of my father’s generation of men growing up during WW2, he was a president who was molded by the history and significance of the existential crisis of WW2. They remained paranoid men (my father & grandfather included) of Russia, China, all communist countries…and they were skeptical of “developing” countries, mostly because of corruption and $$$$ that were part and parcel of sustaining those dysfunctional countries/regions. So, I said this last year sometime, there really is not a candidate for me, but much of the stuff that Trump says, I agree with. And, Hillary….that train left the station for me in the 90’s.

    The last thing I will say about Trump is, he seems to be an existentialist…which is why, in a totally weird and nonsensical way, I can understand him, even if I think he is a baffling choice for presidency (he may be fine as so many people will rein him in like a Macy’s Thanksgiving Parade baloon). For me: everything comes down to family, and like him, I have a fairly large and complicated family; but we get along. And, like him, our families seem to understand; respect for all. The fact that he has not screwed-up his relationship with his children is a huge factor in his favor.

    However, he needs to understand WTF is going on in each country/continents, both hemispheres – albeit, the EU monsignors, and PM’s of EU countries may not be up to my standards of what they should know about history, literature, science…they may be as dumb as bricks, ha, ha, haa! and are no greater leaders than Trump, who is, at least, an Ivy league grad. Accents, and, just because you’re European does not mean you are smart! – ha- I think I used that line in my HS yearbook to make a point!

    Your last paragraph, before I digress even further, is a bit confusing. I have always thought the USA was moving along admirably, to a more eclectic society. Since I was in school in NYC and NJ, college in N.E., I have always been friends with everyone, all races/all beliefs…as well as my sons. In fact, during these last few years with BLM in the news, I have told my sons that it confuses me and depresses me that things seem to be going backwards in time. And, that growing up in the 70’s, in the communities I lived in, everyone got along…no bullsh*t virtue signaling, btw. I would send photos and proof, but, crap, I’m paranoid.

    So, yeah, duh, of course segregation is in the “dust-bin,” of time. I agree wholeheartedly that blacks and whites can totally achieve harmony. Every ethnic group/race that emigrated to the states in the 19th and 20th+ centuries will find grace and find a place in American society….but…and a big BUT…it comes down to education and humility. It comes down to that individual that realizes that through education and effort, come satisfaction and rewards.

    And, I know I will totally sound ridiculous, once again, BUT: my father, who knew he was a time-bomb as far as his health, said: “we have now emigrated to the USA; now, this is our home. From now on, your pursuit of your education, your talents and wits are paramount, the only things you have to guide you to a happy life. And, after your mother and I are dead, the only people you have are your brothers.”

    • Agree: SPMoore8
    • Replies: @Kylie
    Dual citizenship is essentially the sanctioning of divided loyalties.

    We are so screwed.
  211. @Ron Mexico
    Dan Gilbert, Quicken Loans / Cleveland Cavaliers, and his Bedrock Properties have spent $2.2 billion on properties in downtown Detroit, so he technically runs The D. Mike Ilitch, Little Caesars/Detroit RedWings/Detroit Tigers, to a lesser extent.

    “Dan Gilbert, Quicken Loans / Cleveland Cavaliers, and his Bedrock Properties have spent $2.2 billion on properties in downtown Detroit, so he technically runs The D. Mike Ilitch, Little Caesars/Detroit RedWings/Detroit Tigers, to a lesser extent.”

    Detroit’s city council is overwhelmingly Black.
    http://www.detroitmi.gov/Government/City-Council

    Detroit’s police chief is Black.
    http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2015/12/01/police-chief-says-armed-detroit-cut-terror-risk/76592116/

    Detroit’s board of education is all Black.
    http://detroit.k12.mi.us/board/members/

    Detroit’s elite is not a Whitopia. It’s not a White minority elite ruling over a majority Negro population.

  212. @Jefferson
    According to this pew research poll, only 28 percent of Whites oppose Black Lies Matter.
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/08/how-americans-view-the-black-lives-matter-movement/

    Or in other words only 28 percent of Whites are racial tribalists/racially aware.

    We Whites can be our own worst enemies.

    Or only 28% of whites will admit to a pollster they oppose BLM.

  213. @anonymous-antiskynetist
    "The upper reaches of BLM are mostly Obama-style quasi-black exotics on the career hustle: gays (e.g., DeRay), angry lesbians, wealthy black kids, black studies majors, blacks with one white parent or immigrant elite parents … the kind of educated individuals that the Clinton campaign and mainstream media are comfortable dealing with."

    Strange parallels with the Haitian Revolution. It was the educated and affluent mixed-race planter class that really got the whole thing started there, but once Dutty Boukman sacrificed a swine to the gods of Africa in the Alligator Woods, the darker contingent took over and the raping and looting really got going.

    This isn’t true about the Haitian Revolutuon it was decidedly started & led by blacks. They hated the mulattoes, many fled with the whites to USA & became part of the Creoles in New Orleans.

  214. @Anon
    Zero Hedge also said that Soros only gave Hillary 1 million directly. If he gave BLM 33 million, that says something interesting about his priorities. He's far more interested in stirring up anarchy than in getting Hillary elected.

    “Zero Hedge also said that Soros only gave Hillary 1 million directly. If he gave BLM 33 million, that says something interesting about his priorities. He’s far more interested in stirring up anarchy than in getting Hillary elected.”

    I wonder why George Soros has an extreme hatred of law enforcement? Does he see most police officers as anti-Semitic?

    I wonder what percentage of Jews hold extremely negative views of the police? We will never know because no polling company like Gallup or Rasmussen will ever question Jews on the subject of law enforcement.

    My gut tells me George Soros is extremely happy that 5 White Dallas police officers were murdered.

    Micah Johnson was the adopted son that George Soros never had

    • Replies: @guest
    It's not that Soros hates cops. He just loves chaos. He's like the Joker. (I should say he loves organized chaos, or the appearance of chaos. But the other way is pithier.)
  215. @Abe

    That is extremely misleading. Blacks don’t run America as a whole, but they run pockets of America, the extremely undesirable pockets. Are you telling me White people run Detroit and Jackson, Mississippi for example?
     
    What about Cambridge and the state of Massachusetts? Remember the first time Obama inserted himself into a racial psychodrama when his buddy, Skip Gates, was mistaken for a potential burglar by a Cambridge policeman? Everyone in that poor cop's chain-of-command, from President to Attorney General to governor to mayor (not sure about the police chief) was black. That was 7 years ago, and a lot more black police chiefs have been installed since then to "help" racial tensions, in cities both big (Chicago) and small (Ferguson). The death-instinct, exemplified in the need to hand over more and more of their power to certain minorities, is strong in the good-whyte.

    Don’t kid yourself, Abe. Like all SWPL places, Cambridge doesn’t leave the operation of the city to the unwashed. The mayor is a ceremonial position used to virtue signal, and the city is run by a city manager, an Italian guy, who makes more than Boston’s mayor. The Cambridge police commissioner has been some flavor of Irish guy for as long as I can remember.

  216. IA says:
    @SPMoore8
    Someone suggested that Trump might not get the nomination. There hasn't been a GOP nomination with any suspense since maybe 1964 (the first one I watched, maybe I was just kidding myself.)

    I would agree that several other GOP contenders could probably beat Hillary. She is basically campaigning on the "I am the lesser evil!" platform.

    It's not that I wouldn't accept Trump as POTUS or vote for him. I think his lack of political experience and his lack of rhetorical control hurt him, and I think those lacks will hurt him in November. I really don't see him winning, and when my friends in business (including Jewish Trump supporters, BTW, who couldn't care less about six pointed stars) talk about how close he is to Hillary, I must admit my skepticism.

    What can I say, I feel that, as a nation, we are in a bad way. But one thing that is a non-starter is this idea that we can re-introduce segregation and that it will somehow work out if we do so. That's just a huge fail in the general electorate and in the evolution of the western mind. If someone wants to repudiate 200 years of evolution in this area, they've got a long haul to look forward to. That is why I think Steve is right and we have to invoke "citizenism" or whatever the label is. We can have the same de facto segregation that we have now, we don't have to rig the results, but we do have to get along. If that means we have to work at it, so be it. That's our social contract.

    That is why I think Steve is right and we have to invoke “citizenism”

    They have been trying that in downtown Washington, DC for the past 15 years with white gentrification. Things are not going well. What do you tell the 95% Democrat voting population in Washington, DC? Please advise, they need your help.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    If you want my advice, I'd repeat what I said in my original post: Anyone who is going to talk about re-segregation or "back to Africa" is so far out on the fringe that they have completely lost touch with the reality on Planet Earth. I hate to be the one to break the bad news.
  217. @SPMoore8
    Someone suggested that Trump might not get the nomination. There hasn't been a GOP nomination with any suspense since maybe 1964 (the first one I watched, maybe I was just kidding myself.)

    I would agree that several other GOP contenders could probably beat Hillary. She is basically campaigning on the "I am the lesser evil!" platform.

    It's not that I wouldn't accept Trump as POTUS or vote for him. I think his lack of political experience and his lack of rhetorical control hurt him, and I think those lacks will hurt him in November. I really don't see him winning, and when my friends in business (including Jewish Trump supporters, BTW, who couldn't care less about six pointed stars) talk about how close he is to Hillary, I must admit my skepticism.

    What can I say, I feel that, as a nation, we are in a bad way. But one thing that is a non-starter is this idea that we can re-introduce segregation and that it will somehow work out if we do so. That's just a huge fail in the general electorate and in the evolution of the western mind. If someone wants to repudiate 200 years of evolution in this area, they've got a long haul to look forward to. That is why I think Steve is right and we have to invoke "citizenism" or whatever the label is. We can have the same de facto segregation that we have now, we don't have to rig the results, but we do have to get along. If that means we have to work at it, so be it. That's our social contract.

    If that means we have to work at it, so be it.

    Please advise Denise Rucker Krepp. She needs your help: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/a-recent-shooting-leaves-east-hill-on-edge/2016/06/30/36723a52-3e6d-11e6-80bc-d06711fd2125_story.html?wpisrc=nl_lclheads&wpmm=1

    Better yet, move to DC, to Ms. Kreps Capitol Hill neighborhood and set an example.

  218. @IA

    That is why I think Steve is right and we have to invoke “citizenism”
     
    They have been trying that in downtown Washington, DC for the past 15 years with white gentrification. Things are not going well. What do you tell the 95% Democrat voting population in Washington, DC? Please advise, they need your help.

    If you want my advice, I’d repeat what I said in my original post: Anyone who is going to talk about re-segregation or “back to Africa” is so far out on the fringe that they have completely lost touch with the reality on Planet Earth. I hate to be the one to break the bad news.

  219. @Lagertha
    all good points.

    Since so much of "me" is linked to Europe/Finland in particular, I have always voted for presidents according to their view of the larger world beyond the shores of our coasts. So many presidents have been very "Bubba"- like to me, and the rest have had axes to grind...as far as their ideology, perceptions, or just plain knowledge of Europe, and the rest of the world. Besides Eisenhower (I was not even alive then!), there has never been a really erudite, cosmopolitan American president, much to my dismay...Notice: deliberate use of the word, 'cosmopolitan, ' with no reference to one of my favorite vodka drinks.

    GHWB was close to being a cosmogirl, but because of his immense ties to the CIA , and the fact that he was part of my father's generation of men growing up during WW2, he was a president who was molded by the history and significance of the existential crisis of WW2. They remained paranoid men (my father & grandfather included) of Russia, China, all communist countries...and they were skeptical of "developing" countries, mostly because of corruption and $$$$ that were part and parcel of sustaining those dysfunctional countries/regions. So, I said this last year sometime, there really is not a candidate for me, but much of the stuff that Trump says, I agree with. And, Hillary....that train left the station for me in the 90's.

    The last thing I will say about Trump is, he seems to be an existentialist...which is why, in a totally weird and nonsensical way, I can understand him, even if I think he is a baffling choice for presidency (he may be fine as so many people will rein him in like a Macy's Thanksgiving Parade baloon). For me: everything comes down to family, and like him, I have a fairly large and complicated family; but we get along. And, like him, our families seem to understand; respect for all. The fact that he has not screwed-up his relationship with his children is a huge factor in his favor.

    However, he needs to understand WTF is going on in each country/continents, both hemispheres - albeit, the EU monsignors, and PM's of EU countries may not be up to my standards of what they should know about history, literature, science...they may be as dumb as bricks, ha, ha, haa! and are no greater leaders than Trump, who is, at least, an Ivy league grad. Accents, and, just because you're European does not mean you are smart! - ha- I think I used that line in my HS yearbook to make a point!

    Your last paragraph, before I digress even further, is a bit confusing. I have always thought the USA was moving along admirably, to a more eclectic society. Since I was in school in NYC and NJ, college in N.E., I have always been friends with everyone, all races/all beliefs...as well as my sons. In fact, during these last few years with BLM in the news, I have told my sons that it confuses me and depresses me that things seem to be going backwards in time. And, that growing up in the 70's, in the communities I lived in, everyone got along...no bullsh*t virtue signaling, btw. I would send photos and proof, but, crap, I'm paranoid.

    So, yeah, duh, of course segregation is in the "dust-bin," of time. I agree wholeheartedly that blacks and whites can totally achieve harmony. Every ethnic group/race that emigrated to the states in the 19th and 20th+ centuries will find grace and find a place in American society....but...and a big BUT...it comes down to education and humility. It comes down to that individual that realizes that through education and effort, come satisfaction and rewards.

    And, I know I will totally sound ridiculous, once again, BUT: my father, who knew he was a time-bomb as far as his health, said: "we have now emigrated to the USA; now, this is our home. From now on, your pursuit of your education, your talents and wits are paramount, the only things you have to guide you to a happy life. And, after your mother and I are dead, the only people you have are your brothers."

    Dual citizenship is essentially the sanctioning of divided loyalties.

    We are so screwed.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    Dual citizenship can cause problems in the future, if the US allows 3rd-worlders to cling to dual citizenship. I completely agreed that dual citizenship is bad if people are anti-USA while living in the USA - they deserve to be stripped of their citizenship (one or the other) if they do things like burn the flag, show more loyalty to the country they emigrated from....like those vulgarians in San Jose Trump rally.

    But, my generation of Northern Europeans/Scandinavians who hold dual citizenship and live in the states, really do it as an emotional thing - and, we'll be dead, or mostly there, in 25 years. And, we as a region (Scandinavia), come from the highest trust/low corruption societies in the world. And, sadly, these countries are being inundated with the migrants...so your point is valid there, too. For instance, no ISIS youts should be allowed to come back to Minneapolis or Stockholm once they left - they need to be deported, along with their entire family.

    And, considering the failure of the EU & Brexit, my generation is going back to nationalism in Europe. Like I said, we emigrated to the USA knowing the USA was to be our country henceforth. I have just always want a more "worldly president" for the USA. Because: terrorism, failed states, immigration issues and trade deals with difficult rivals.

    My larger point was: All American presidents/candidates need to know world history/geography/societies. The problems of the world affect the USA; unwanted wars could have been avoided if leaders knew about the persistent issues of so-called "failed states/failing states," where there is no solution other than, "don't get involved." I lean towards isolationism because I don't trust many countries, regions which are full of corruption, violence, death cults, low educational attainment, little or no institutions, inadequate rule of law, and, after 40 years, things are just worse.

    USA needs to know what's going on, but is not obligated to fix entire societies...American taxpayers should not be forced to pay for nation building. Had American presidents paid more attention to improving the living standards of their own citizens, perhaps we would not have the racial tensions now, in cities, towns, rallies, campuses. Yeah, right, ha!

  220. @Paul Mendez

    But don’t let their evil SJW bullshit go unchallenged.
     
    You obviously don't hold an office job. The SJWs at work won't debate you, they'll ruin you.

    I was "let go" from my last job for not sufficiently praising Obama and homosexual marriage during the 2012 elections. Not for criticizing them, mind you, but just for not participating in the general straight white male hatred that passed for office banter. Eventually, however, people noticed my silence and drew their own conclusions.

    Of course, the reason for my firing was given as poor performance. But when your colleagues stop assisting you and actively start sabotaging your projects, it's impossible to get anything done.

    I'm sure it won't surprise anyone that the two homosexuals were the cruelest. (BTW there were no blacks involved, it being a STEM-related organization. All the venom came from whites and Jews.)

    Here’s a solution to your conundrum..
    Tell them you’ll vote for Hillary, but for all the wrong reasons:
    “I like the way Hillary is standing up for African Americans and making them revolt against the Man. Burn baby burn! ”
    ” Hillary will make sure persons of vibrancy can finally afford to live in our diversity-deprived neighborhoods via section 8 vouchers. I can’t wait to be enriched with Blacks and Hispanics, and so should you. ”
    ” Trump is a maverick who can’t be trusted. With Hillary we know Wall Street will feel comfortable and not panic. ”
    ” I’m not voting Trump, he’s too chummy with Putin. We need to nuke the damn Russians”
    ” With Hillary, we can be sure we’ll stay in the Middle East for decades protecting out vital interests there, and maybe bomb Syria and help Israel deport yet more Palestinians. ”
    And so on…
    In a word, troll them in a way they won’t be able to reply. And make them question their choice.

  221. @Jefferson
    "Zero Hedge also said that Soros only gave Hillary 1 million directly. If he gave BLM 33 million, that says something interesting about his priorities. He’s far more interested in stirring up anarchy than in getting Hillary elected."

    I wonder why George Soros has an extreme hatred of law enforcement? Does he see most police officers as anti-Semitic?

    I wonder what percentage of Jews hold extremely negative views of the police? We will never know because no polling company like Gallup or Rasmussen will ever question Jews on the subject of law enforcement.

    My gut tells me George Soros is extremely happy that 5 White Dallas police officers were murdered.

    Micah Johnson was the adopted son that George Soros never had

    It’s not that Soros hates cops. He just loves chaos. He’s like the Joker. (I should say he loves organized chaos, or the appearance of chaos. But the other way is pithier.)

    • Replies: @BB753
    Indeed, Soros is a real-life comic book supervillain, the kind of millionaire mobster with hundreds of armed goons Batman or Daredevil would have to fight to restore rule of law and sanity in their cities. Or even better, a Bond villain, bent on world-domination, through evil financial schemes.
  222. @SPMoore8
    This is too good not to report: #BLM aka #BlackLivesMatter has a new hashtag:

    #CutForBlackLives

    That's right, if you are white, your penance is to cut yourself. The wittiest rejoinder I have seen so far, is that, if you are going to do this, just make sure you make the cut across your throat:

    http://www.inquisitr.com/3291496/dear-white-people-cut-for-black-lives/

    That sounds like a 4chan troll hashtag and almost definitely is one. They’ve done a near-identical one in the past involving “cutting for Justin Bieber.”

  223. @guest
    It's not that Soros hates cops. He just loves chaos. He's like the Joker. (I should say he loves organized chaos, or the appearance of chaos. But the other way is pithier.)

    Indeed, Soros is a real-life comic book supervillain, the kind of millionaire mobster with hundreds of armed goons Batman or Daredevil would have to fight to restore rule of law and sanity in their cities. Or even better, a Bond villain, bent on world-domination, through evil financial schemes.

  224. @Kylie
    Dual citizenship is essentially the sanctioning of divided loyalties.

    We are so screwed.

    Dual citizenship can cause problems in the future, if the US allows 3rd-worlders to cling to dual citizenship. I completely agreed that dual citizenship is bad if people are anti-USA while living in the USA – they deserve to be stripped of their citizenship (one or the other) if they do things like burn the flag, show more loyalty to the country they emigrated from….like those vulgarians in San Jose Trump rally.

    But, my generation of Northern Europeans/Scandinavians who hold dual citizenship and live in the states, really do it as an emotional thing – and, we’ll be dead, or mostly there, in 25 years. And, we as a region (Scandinavia), come from the highest trust/low corruption societies in the world. And, sadly, these countries are being inundated with the migrants…so your point is valid there, too. For instance, no ISIS youts should be allowed to come back to Minneapolis or Stockholm once they left – they need to be deported, along with their entire family.

    And, considering the failure of the EU & Brexit, my generation is going back to nationalism in Europe. Like I said, we emigrated to the USA knowing the USA was to be our country henceforth. I have just always want a more “worldly president” for the USA. Because: terrorism, failed states, immigration issues and trade deals with difficult rivals.

    My larger point was: All American presidents/candidates need to know world history/geography/societies. The problems of the world affect the USA; unwanted wars could have been avoided if leaders knew about the persistent issues of so-called “failed states/failing states,” where there is no solution other than, “don’t get involved.” I lean towards isolationism because I don’t trust many countries, regions which are full of corruption, violence, death cults, low educational attainment, little or no institutions, inadequate rule of law, and, after 40 years, things are just worse.

    USA needs to know what’s going on, but is not obligated to fix entire societies…American taxpayers should not be forced to pay for nation building. Had American presidents paid more attention to improving the living standards of their own citizens, perhaps we would not have the racial tensions now, in cities, towns, rallies, campuses. Yeah, right, ha!

    • Replies: @guest
    Your logic is precisely why in the not too distant future we'll see calls for actual, legal World Citizenship. No dual loyalty problem when there's only one thing to be loyal to: "humanity" or Big Brother, whatever you imagine.

    I think Steve calls World American Citizenship the "zeroth amendment." I see it going further than that, and quickly. Russia and China will be excluded, as will other Naughty Boy Nations, until such time as we replace their governments with graduates of Harvard and Yale.

  225. @Lagertha
    Dual citizenship can cause problems in the future, if the US allows 3rd-worlders to cling to dual citizenship. I completely agreed that dual citizenship is bad if people are anti-USA while living in the USA - they deserve to be stripped of their citizenship (one or the other) if they do things like burn the flag, show more loyalty to the country they emigrated from....like those vulgarians in San Jose Trump rally.

    But, my generation of Northern Europeans/Scandinavians who hold dual citizenship and live in the states, really do it as an emotional thing - and, we'll be dead, or mostly there, in 25 years. And, we as a region (Scandinavia), come from the highest trust/low corruption societies in the world. And, sadly, these countries are being inundated with the migrants...so your point is valid there, too. For instance, no ISIS youts should be allowed to come back to Minneapolis or Stockholm once they left - they need to be deported, along with their entire family.

    And, considering the failure of the EU & Brexit, my generation is going back to nationalism in Europe. Like I said, we emigrated to the USA knowing the USA was to be our country henceforth. I have just always want a more "worldly president" for the USA. Because: terrorism, failed states, immigration issues and trade deals with difficult rivals.

    My larger point was: All American presidents/candidates need to know world history/geography/societies. The problems of the world affect the USA; unwanted wars could have been avoided if leaders knew about the persistent issues of so-called "failed states/failing states," where there is no solution other than, "don't get involved." I lean towards isolationism because I don't trust many countries, regions which are full of corruption, violence, death cults, low educational attainment, little or no institutions, inadequate rule of law, and, after 40 years, things are just worse.

    USA needs to know what's going on, but is not obligated to fix entire societies...American taxpayers should not be forced to pay for nation building. Had American presidents paid more attention to improving the living standards of their own citizens, perhaps we would not have the racial tensions now, in cities, towns, rallies, campuses. Yeah, right, ha!

    Your logic is precisely why in the not too distant future we’ll see calls for actual, legal World Citizenship. No dual loyalty problem when there’s only one thing to be loyal to: “humanity” or Big Brother, whatever you imagine.

    I think Steve calls World American Citizenship the “zeroth amendment.” I see it going further than that, and quickly. Russia and China will be excluded, as will other Naughty Boy Nations, until such time as we replace their governments with graduates of Harvard and Yale.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    I think you misunderstand me: If I vote in Finland, or pay taxes there, I must give up my American citizenship. I technically am a dual citizen, but I am not participating as a voter in Europe. I just get the benefit of getting through airports in EU faster; that's it.

    I totally understand what you are saying, and, what I am suggesting is that each European country is reconsidering the logic of the EU right now....because of the Migrant Crisis and previous financial debacles like Greece, and the effed-up, lazy countries of EU wanting bennies but not paying the taxes into the common EU pot - the corruption part I mentioned. World Citizenship idea is being thwarted, big-time, by average people all over Europe and in the USA. This is why everything is so tense now; Globo-elites are losing momentum and getting bogged-down because people are waking up...people, ultimately, can not be controlled.

    Russia and China will never submit to any nation, ever. They have land, brain-power, weapons and people. So, the jig is up; the dreams of NWO will never happen because people are tribal...the family unit and small community is the most important. OT: I just watched a new documentary about the Donner Party....some extreme tribalism :)!
  226. @Trumpening
    What are everyone's thoughts on the talk out there that George Soros should be arrested and prosecuted for funding and inciting violence in multiple Western Nations?

    If Hungary as an example, or the U.S.A. after The Trumpening begins, were to do so, how would that affect elites' desire to cause trouble going forward?

    Hand me the petition or give me the link. It’s long past time to see that bat-winged goblin fitted for a pair of John Demjanjuk pajamas, and paraded in and out of court in ’em.

  227. @guest
    Your logic is precisely why in the not too distant future we'll see calls for actual, legal World Citizenship. No dual loyalty problem when there's only one thing to be loyal to: "humanity" or Big Brother, whatever you imagine.

    I think Steve calls World American Citizenship the "zeroth amendment." I see it going further than that, and quickly. Russia and China will be excluded, as will other Naughty Boy Nations, until such time as we replace their governments with graduates of Harvard and Yale.

    I think you misunderstand me: If I vote in Finland, or pay taxes there, I must give up my American citizenship. I technically am a dual citizen, but I am not participating as a voter in Europe. I just get the benefit of getting through airports in EU faster; that’s it.

    I totally understand what you are saying, and, what I am suggesting is that each European country is reconsidering the logic of the EU right now….because of the Migrant Crisis and previous financial debacles like Greece, and the effed-up, lazy countries of EU wanting bennies but not paying the taxes into the common EU pot – the corruption part I mentioned. World Citizenship idea is being thwarted, big-time, by average people all over Europe and in the USA. This is why everything is so tense now; Globo-elites are losing momentum and getting bogged-down because people are waking up…people, ultimately, can not be controlled.

    Russia and China will never submit to any nation, ever. They have land, brain-power, weapons and people. So, the jig is up; the dreams of NWO will never happen because people are tribal…the family unit and small community is the most important. OT: I just watched a new documentary about the Donner Party….some extreme tribalism :)!

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