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A New York Times oped:

Black Activists Don’t Ignore Crime
By LISA L. MILLER AUG. 5, 2016

IT has become a standard conservative talking point: Black activists focus on police brutality but ignore violent crime in black neighborhoods. Last month Rudy Giuliani said on Fox News: “If they meant ‘Black Lives Matter,’ they would be doing something about the way in which the vast majority of blacks are killed in America, which is by other blacks.”

Claims like Mr. Giuliani’s aren’t just offensive or misplaced — they’re demonstrably wrong. While Black Lives Matter receives deserved attention, countless grass-roots organizations — many of which were founded by bereaved black women — are doing remarkable work to prevent and reduce crime. They protest violence, testify at city council hearings, press for gun-control reform and collaborate with politicians, faith-based organizations and, yes, even the police.

I spent 20 years studying anti-crime politics — observing community meetings, interviewing lawmakers and activists and analyzing city council hearings about crime. I found groups organizing on everything from “barking dogs to shootouts,” as one legislative aide told me. Their activism was impossible to miss.

But this local organizing goes largely unnoticed by politicians, scholars and the news media, all of which focus instead on large national groups with big budgets and expensive lobbyists.

In Philadelphia alone, there were at least 50 local organizations involved in anti-crime politics in the early 2000s. Mothers in Charge, for example, was started in 2003 by Dorothy Johnson-Speight after her son, Khaaliq Jabbar Johnson, 24, was killed in an argument over a parking spot.

In other words, while “Black Activists Don’t Ignore Crime,” the national media, the Justice Department, and the Soros Foundation do ignore black activists who don’t ignore black on black crime the way their beloved Black Lives Matter ignores it.

 
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  1. This black-on-black crime argument poses as truth telling and edgy when it is in fact the song of the cuckold.

    What about black crime in general, especially black-on-White and black-on-Oriental crime. That is what we should be marching against.

    • Replies: @helena
    @Anonymous

    The first song of the cuckold is just the beginning of winter.

    , @Truth
    @Anonymous


    What about black crime in general, especially black-on-White and black-on-Oriental crime. That is what we should be marching against.

     

    White crime victims are generally victimized by whites.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jefferson, @Lot, @Yak-15, @Erik Sieven, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon

    , @GW
    @Anonymous

    Back up and understand the context of the situation. Pointing out that the most dangerous thing to a black person isn't the cops but fellow blacks isn't done to cuck for blacks, but rather expose the phonyness of the black activists and white liberals who claim to care about black lives.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    , @AndrewR
    @Anonymous

    Overuse of the word "cuckold" is the song of the dim.

    While certainly it would be cowardly to refuse to point out the reality that, proportionately, blacks are far more likely to be the perpetrators of interracial violence than the victims, when BLM is predicated on the implicit notion that the greatest threat to black lives are nonblacks and cops, there is nothing "cuckish" about mentioning black on black crime. Mentioning black on white crime to a BLM activist might be "non-cucked" but it would also be ineffective since the vast majority of BLMers obviously don't care about whites. Pointing out their hypocrisy is, in my view, the most effective solution, and that is best accomplished by pointing to intraracial black crime. Because anyone who truly cared about black lives would focus more energy on getting the cops to neutralize violent blacks than on protesting black lives lost at the hands of police, the vast majority of which are lost due primarily to the poor choices of the deceased.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  2. Well spakèd, Steve. Black Lives Matter only insofar as Black Bodies exploding in orgies of led bullets can be used to badger and humiliate whites as a pretext for occluding enduring black sociopathy and disfunction, and for advancing the policy goals of those subscribing to omnipresent and insatiable anti-white racial animus!

  3. What are you doing to prevent us from being held up for reparations etc. by BLM? Until blacks are willing to disavow goodies BLM could get them, I can’t be bothered to look past BLM. You’re letting them speak for you if you don’t disavow it. And that means all of it.

  4. “They protest violence, testify at city council hearings, press for gun-control reform and collaborate with politicians, faith-based organizations and, yes, even the police.”

    Everything but get married and raise kids to respect the police.

    • Replies: @Boomstick
    @Craig Nelsen

    ...Or advocate locking up the perps for a significant length of time.

    , @Abe
    @Craig Nelsen


    “They protest violence, testify at city council hearings, press for gun-control reform and collaborate with politicians, faith-based organizations and, yes, even the police.”

    Everything but get married and raise kids to respect the police
     
    Watching the convention speech of 202X Democratic nominee-apparent Corey Booker, I was struck by the fact that, just as at the time they were both still college students in the late '80's it was apparent Stanford was just a bit of a step down from Harvard (back then I mean, not any more), so it is apparent Corey Booker is just a bit of a step down in terms of intellect and sensibility from Obama himself. Despite his ambivalence toward whites and their culture, it is clear Obama intellectually grasps the main currents of educated, upper-class, nice liberal thought and doesn't take his black preacher man persona too seriously. Booker, on the other hand, might actually buy into his own bilge (at least some of the time) and think that black agitation, black activism, anything but hard work and brains, is enough to build a civilization on and take mankind to the stars:

    "Yes, my fellow Americans, we will no longer accept our place at the back of the solar system. We will freedom ride next-generation starships to Alpha Centauri and beyond until the human species is no longer red-lined from the rest of the galaxy. Through embracing humanity's age-old instinct to explore we will have given new birth to an age of impassioned stumbling not seen since the dawn of this nation in 1492."

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Pericles

    , @CK
    @Craig Nelsen

    Were you not impressed with all the black fathers on stage at the democratic convention shedding tears for their sons, dead during the commission of various crimes and stupidities?

    , @yowza
    @Craig Nelsen


    Everything but get married and raise kids to respect the police.
     
    Or any authority figure, because they have no competent male authority figures at home, and male authority figures matter. Additionally, if a kid's dad is in jail, that's that kid's authority figure. It's difficult if not impossible to fulfill that role from behind plexiglass, and in empathy to the incarcerated father, it's also difficult to muster the will to even try after being reemed in the behind by your cell mates. It's hard to have a "heart-to-heart" talk with your visiting son if your buttocks is oozing blood, or worse, from a forced homosexual encounter from the day before.

    Furthermore, boys being under their mother's thumb exclusively tends to produce "man-girls" as they go forward past puberty. Self-indulgent, narcissistic, lack of empathy: essentially "mean girls" with additional testosterone adding to their confusion.

    Think of an obstinate 14 year old girl. Think of her intellectual and emotional life. Now think of that 14 year old girly brain transferred into a 20-something year old's black man's body, and black male pathology not only makes sense, it's extremely predictable.

    A significant number of black men are really "Mean Girls."
  5. I know. I also have read that Stalin had some disagreements with Trotsky.

  6. @Craig Nelsen
    "They protest violence, testify at city council hearings, press for gun-control reform and collaborate with politicians, faith-based organizations and, yes, even the police."

    Everything but get married and raise kids to respect the police.

    Replies: @Boomstick, @Abe, @CK, @yowza

    …Or advocate locking up the perps for a significant length of time.

  7. Right on the nail Steve.

    • Agree: NickG
  8. @Anonymous
    This black-on-black crime argument poses as truth telling and edgy when it is in fact the song of the cuckold.

    What about black crime in general, especially black-on-White and black-on-Oriental crime. That is what we should be marching against.

    Replies: @helena, @Truth, @GW, @AndrewR

    The first song of the cuckold is just the beginning of winter.

  9. They protest violence, testify at city council hearings, press for gun-control reform and collaborate with politicians, faith-based organizations and, yes, even the police.

    Yeah, but do they you know, accomplish anything?

    • Replies: @Anon7
    @BenKenobi

    Nothing will happen until black activists and the white SJWs deal with the big (African) elephant in the room:

    "...the vast majority of blacks are killed in America... by other blacks."

    Which is to say, nothing will happen. Some truths cannot be stated.

    , @NOTA
    @BenKenobi

    If you don't trust the local police, and you also want something done about crime, you're in a tough place. The obvious stuff to do to make the streets safer (put more cops on the street, lock more criminals up) may be stuff you think will either not be done fairly, or will introduce more problems than it solves. (Remember that the extra-long sentences for crack, now blamed for a lot of blacks spending long periods in prison, were advocated by a lot of black leaders trying to do something about the bloodshed and destruction of the arrival of crack in black neighborhoods.

  10. @Anonymous
    This black-on-black crime argument poses as truth telling and edgy when it is in fact the song of the cuckold.

    What about black crime in general, especially black-on-White and black-on-Oriental crime. That is what we should be marching against.

    Replies: @helena, @Truth, @GW, @AndrewR

    What about black crime in general, especially black-on-White and black-on-Oriental crime. That is what we should be marching against.

    White crime victims are generally victimized by whites.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Truth

    Black on White crime is a huge problem, as is black crime generally.

    , @Jefferson
    @Truth

    "White crime victims are generally victimized by whites."

    True, but Black on White crime is nothing to sneeze at either. It is by far the most common type of interracial crime in America.

    Just do a Google search on Black on White crime and you will see a shitload of examples pop up on legitimate local news sites. You don't have to go to fringe sites like Stormfront to find such examples.

    Youtube also has plenty of examples of Black on White crime.

    Replies: @Blobby5

    , @Lot
    @Truth


    White crime victims are generally victimized by whites.
     
    Depends on the crime. Petty theft? Yes. Armed robbery? No.
    , @Yak-15
    @Truth

    Not in the largest American cities outside of simple assault/battery. I have never met someone who has been robbed by a white guy in Chicago. Or shot by a white guy. Or stabbed by a white guy. Or...

    Then again, I am youngish and it seems that many of the bad whites were priced out of Chicago at least half a generation ago.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @Erik Sieven
    @Truth

    I wonder which percentage of European and Asian Americans was ever beaten up or intimidated over a longer period by black people in High School. When it comes to violence, one should not only talk about homicides. It is those years in school as children and teenagers, which shape the perception of the world.
    Obviously a lot of white / asian people have this deep fear, and because of that admiration of black people. They fear them so much that they do not even dare to admit they fear them. Maybe this is because of those experiences in school.

    Replies: @anon

    , @anon
    @Truth

    I think it is quite fair to say that for every black who is a victim of violent crime by a white, far more whites are victims of violent black crime.

    How many black women are raped by a white man?
    How many white women are raped by a black men?

    Ditto for murder and violent assaults.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Truth


    White crime victims are generally victimized by whites
     
    So you believe Mrs Broaddrick too. I'm not alone here!

    Problem is, she accused the wrong Bill C. Had she fingered the black one, "journalists" would beat down her door.
    , @Mr. Anon
    @Truth

    "White crime victims are generally victimized by whites."

    This is the customary snake-oil from "Truth", who is mathematically illiterate. He doesn't understand fractions. The denominator is everybit as important as the numerator.

    He would have you believe that because you are more likely to die in a traffic accident than from a fall or a lighting strike, that you should be unconcerned by dodgy ladders and that you should go ahead and go golfing during a thunderstorm. Actually, it is the fact that so many whites know how dangerous blacks can be, and consequently avoid them to a large extent (whether or not they admit it) that prevents black-on-white crime from being more common than it is.

    Moreover, stranger-crime is disproportionately inter-racial, and stranger crime is the kind of crime that tends to be random and is harder to avoid through prudence (i.e., by not associating with low-lifes).

  11. Claims like Mr. Giuliani’s aren’t just offensive or misplaced — they’re demonstrably wrong.

    Interesting that she states outright that demonstrable error isn’t a precondition for a view to be “misplaced or offensive”. Is that a sort of tacit acknowledgement that some aspects of the NYT worldview are antiscientific hogwash?

    • Replies: @NOTA
    @Anonymous

    Yeah, I'm interested in wrong, but don't care about offensive.

  12. @Truth
    @Anonymous


    What about black crime in general, especially black-on-White and black-on-Oriental crime. That is what we should be marching against.

     

    White crime victims are generally victimized by whites.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jefferson, @Lot, @Yak-15, @Erik Sieven, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon

    Black on White crime is a huge problem, as is black crime generally.

  13. “In other words, while “Black Activists Don’t Ignore Crime,” the national media, the Justice Department, and the Soros Foundation do ignore black activists who don’t ignore black on black crime the way their beloved Black Lives Matter ignores it.”

    This is how you know Black Lies Matter was built on a hatred of White people more so than stopping police brutality, this organization has not expanded to racially homogeneous Black nations like Nigeria and Senegal for example.

    I have an extremely hard time believing that police brutality does not occur in racially homogeneous Negro nations.

    Where is the Sub Saharan African chapter of Black Lives Matter?

    Blacks just don’t get as angry and don’t feel the need to riot at the sight of Black police officers gunning down Black civilians.

    • Replies: @CK
    @Jefferson

    Possibly because they are aware that if they do riot the black police and the black army of the sub-Saharan paradises have no qualms about continuing to gun down anyone in the area.

    , @NOTA
    @Jefferson

    Do you also think nobody in the US really cares about terrorism unless they're willing to invade and occupy Syria and Iraq? Maybe they're just a lot more interested in safety for black Americans than for black Haitians, Kenyans, etc.

    Replies: @bomag

    , @Anonymous
    @Jefferson

    In my opinion, blacks are okay with other black cops shooting is because they simply have more respect for them. Black criminals assume whites are weak and resent any aggression or pushback by whites that challenges this belief.
    I think this also ties in with the police videos we see of shootings; the blacks are extremely aggressive with the police and ignore their authority, which makes the cops draw their weapons.

  14. @Truth
    @Anonymous


    What about black crime in general, especially black-on-White and black-on-Oriental crime. That is what we should be marching against.

     

    White crime victims are generally victimized by whites.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jefferson, @Lot, @Yak-15, @Erik Sieven, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon

    “White crime victims are generally victimized by whites.”

    True, but Black on White crime is nothing to sneeze at either. It is by far the most common type of interracial crime in America.

    Just do a Google search on Black on White crime and you will see a shitload of examples pop up on legitimate local news sites. You don’t have to go to fringe sites like Stormfront to find such examples.

    Youtube also has plenty of examples of Black on White crime.

    • Replies: @Blobby5
    @Jefferson

    Colin Flaherty has tons of great examples on his youtube channel.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

  15. I think it was Charles Barkley who said in his personal life he knows Black people who were murdered by other Blacks, but does not personally know a single Black who was murdered by a White person.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Jefferson

    And whatever this genius says, must be noted...

    Replies: @G Pinfold, @MEH 0910, @Hunsdon, @Grandpa Jack, @anon

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Jefferson

    “There is nothing more painful for me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery—[and] then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”

    - Jesse Jackson, 1993

  16. Question for Willard Carroll, an American actor, producer, rapper, songwriter,highschool degree holder,tax-dodger, activist , and nation-cleanser (hobbyist level):

    Is there enough of a castor oil on the Earth to force-feed 50 million+ Americans?

    After Earth,When We Wuz Kangz Again: https://postimg.org/image/uyurx2umd/

    But definitely the most powerfull part of Smith’s presser was when he (because blacktivists don’t ignore crime) exclaimed :

    “….so, for the last few days, that I’ve been here in a cosmopolitan Dubai, I wake up every morning in a hotel that was built by slaves. And I watch my daughters, two beautiful, intelligent, black young women playing with their imaginary dogs on the Chop-Chop Square of this amazing city “

  17. @Truth
    @Anonymous


    What about black crime in general, especially black-on-White and black-on-Oriental crime. That is what we should be marching against.

     

    White crime victims are generally victimized by whites.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jefferson, @Lot, @Yak-15, @Erik Sieven, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon

    White crime victims are generally victimized by whites.

    Depends on the crime. Petty theft? Yes. Armed robbery? No.

  18. Another interesting new development with Black Lives Matter is that it has allied itself with Palestinians and against Israel — sort of like what happened with black activists in the late ’60s.

    A couple of months ago, Mark Suster, a Jewish venture capitalist in Los Angeles, wrote an essay in support of Black Lives Matter.

    So I brought this new development to his attention.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    Another interesting new development with Black Lives Matter is that it has allied itself with Palestinians and against Israel

    BLM has finally found a legitimate grievance.

    Replies: @ogunsiron

    , @CK
    @Dave Pinsen

    I thought George Soros was the funder of BLM; has his legatee slipped the leash?

    , @CK
    @Dave Pinsen

    After a wee bit of Google-Fu, it appears that George Soros is also pro-Palestine.

    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Dave Pinsen

    It's like the two worst PR firms in the world decided to merge.

    Here's Norman Finkelstein getting a little perturbed at a BDS activist trying to convince him of the hundreds of 'community organizations' backing BDS:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASIBGSSw4lI

  19. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “The Trust” in the semi-fictional drama “Reilly, Ace of Spies”, was purported to be an anti-Soviet spy agency, but “The Trust” organization was in actuality created by the Soviets in order to monitor and control who was doing the spying and what was being spied on.

    On a lesser scale than global political intrigue, it has occurred to this writer that local agencies either government based, political, or “civic groups” are similarly organized as the fictional “Trust” and often serve the purpose of controlling the levels of dissent while allowing outrage, anger, and those with an active social conscience to blow off steam, with no visible results or action ever forthcoming. (Another example being how the Democrats own and control Fox News).

    The adroit use of “Roberts Rules of Order” will control a meeting or group completely, and the skilled chairman of a contested (city council, housing authority, or other group) meeting is truly a wonder to watch in action, the chair stifling and dampening criticism or complaint while also instantly parrying criticism through invoking “Roberts Rules”. Those expert chairmen are worth their weight in gold, and this writer has seen some in action as glib as an auctioneer and as mellifluous as a Philadelphia lawyer.

    It’s entirely possible that the many “minor” Black Activist groups mentioned in the news story above (likely many being activist Black Church groups that constantly need an “enemy” to complain about) follow similar form and are created much for the same purpose as described; those involved will feel they are doing their “civic duty” and assuaging their conscience, but nothing can or will be done.

    Besides, since money serves as the trappings and manifestations of success in the US, the prosperous “gansta” is placed on a social pedestal. Look how “gangsta rap” and hip-hop emulates gangster (criminal/anti-social) behavior and culture in word if not deed. Criminal enterprise is what probably what keeps the black communities solvent over and above the welfare state.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    "was in actuality created by the Soviets in order to monitor and control who was doing the spying and what was being spied on."

    "It’s entirely possible that the many “minor” [White] Activist groups…[such as Steve Sailor's columns in The Unz Reader]...that constantly need an “enemy” to complain about) follow similar form and are created much for the same purpose as described; those involved will feel they are doing their “civic duty” and assuaging their conscience, but nothing can or will be done.

    , @Percy Gryce
    @Anonymous


    The adroit use of “Roberts Rules of Order” will control a meeting or group completely, and the skilled chairman of a contested (city council, housing authority, or other group) meeting is truly a wonder to watch in action, the chair stifling and dampening criticism or complaint while also instantly parrying criticism through invoking “Roberts Rules”. Those expert chairmen are worth their weight in gold, and this writer has seen some in action as glib as an auctioneer and as mellifluous as a Philadelphia lawyer.
     
    Indeed. I'm reading Noel Annan's The Dons: Mentors, Eccentrics and Geniuses and, in his chapter on Benjamin Jowett, he cites an instance when Jowett's successor Sandy Lindsay was chairing a meeting (either as Master of Balliol College or as Vice-Chancellor of the whole University) and the vote was entirely against him and him alone. His reply was that "It appears we've reached a stalemate."
  20. Abe says: • Website
    @Craig Nelsen
    "They protest violence, testify at city council hearings, press for gun-control reform and collaborate with politicians, faith-based organizations and, yes, even the police."

    Everything but get married and raise kids to respect the police.

    Replies: @Boomstick, @Abe, @CK, @yowza

    “They protest violence, testify at city council hearings, press for gun-control reform and collaborate with politicians, faith-based organizations and, yes, even the police.”

    Everything but get married and raise kids to respect the police

    Watching the convention speech of 202X Democratic nominee-apparent Corey Booker, I was struck by the fact that, just as at the time they were both still college students in the late ’80’s it was apparent Stanford was just a bit of a step down from Harvard (back then I mean, not any more), so it is apparent Corey Booker is just a bit of a step down in terms of intellect and sensibility from Obama himself. Despite his ambivalence toward whites and their culture, it is clear Obama intellectually grasps the main currents of educated, upper-class, nice liberal thought and doesn’t take his black preacher man persona too seriously. Booker, on the other hand, might actually buy into his own bilge (at least some of the time) and think that black agitation, black activism, anything but hard work and brains, is enough to build a civilization on and take mankind to the stars:

    “Yes, my fellow Americans, we will no longer accept our place at the back of the solar system. We will freedom ride next-generation starships to Alpha Centauri and beyond until the human species is no longer red-lined from the rest of the galaxy. Through embracing humanity’s age-old instinct to explore we will have given new birth to an age of impassioned stumbling not seen since the dawn of this nation in 1492.”

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Abe

    Corey Booker played college football, which may have had something to do with his choice to go to Stanford. I'd be surprised if he had applied to Harvard and gotten rejected. He is also a Rhodes Scholar and has a law degree from Yale. I wouldn't be so sure he's less intelligent than Obama.

    Both are pretty conventional Democrats (neither has any original political ideas), and both have a "black preacher" rhetorical mode, though Obama carries his off a bit more confidently. The guy who runs the Richard Nixon account on Twitter quipped during the DNC that Booker talks like a black from the suburbs pretending to sound like an urban preacher, or something to that effect.

    The two main differences between Booker and Obama are:

    - Obama ran for president before his act got stale, 4 years after his big speech at the 2004 DNC, and 2 years after getting elected to the US Senate. In contrast, Booker was in Newark long enough for everyone to realize he had no magic (not that Obama would have done any better as mayor of Newark).

    - Booker doesn't have a chip on his shoulder like Obama has due to his Muslim/exotic background. Booker is a conventional, if extremely high-achieving, upper middle class African American (his parents were IBM execs).

    Replies: @Clyde

    , @Pericles
    @Abe


    We will freedom ride next-generation starships
     
    (pyramids)
  21. @Jefferson
    I think it was Charles Barkley who said in his personal life he knows Black people who were murdered by other Blacks, but does not personally know a single Black who was murdered by a White person.

    Replies: @Truth, @Mr. Anon

    And whatever this genius says, must be noted…

    • Replies: @G Pinfold
    @Truth

    Stopped clocks...

    , @MEH 0910
    @Truth

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKTb5Nfyh1o

    , @Hunsdon
    @Truth

    We note what you say, Truth.

    , @Grandpa Jack
    @Truth

    "And whatever this genius says, must be noted…"

    If Barkley were proposing a grand unifying theory about race in America, you'd have a point. But simply stating what he'd observed, that he'd seen blacks killed by other blacks and not by whites, that's just observation, something even a CCTV camera could do (and if they could talk, probably quite a few would say what Barkley did).

    , @anon
    @Truth

    Kind of like you, huh TRUTH? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!. No pun intended.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  22. The anti crime mothers organize “shoot outs?” What is that supposed to mean? It sounds like organizing one groups of criminals to take over from another group of criminals.

    • Replies: @CK
    @avraham

    Shout loud enough shooting follows.

    , @NOTA
    @avraham

    Admittedly, if you could get the rival gangs to go kill each other off, it would probably drop the crime rate by quite a bit....

    Replies: @avraham

  23. But this local organizing goes largely unnoticed by politicians, scholars and the news media, all of which focus instead on large national groups with big budgets and expensive lobbyists.

    Also unnoticed by perpetrators…

  24. @Abe
    @Craig Nelsen


    “They protest violence, testify at city council hearings, press for gun-control reform and collaborate with politicians, faith-based organizations and, yes, even the police.”

    Everything but get married and raise kids to respect the police
     
    Watching the convention speech of 202X Democratic nominee-apparent Corey Booker, I was struck by the fact that, just as at the time they were both still college students in the late '80's it was apparent Stanford was just a bit of a step down from Harvard (back then I mean, not any more), so it is apparent Corey Booker is just a bit of a step down in terms of intellect and sensibility from Obama himself. Despite his ambivalence toward whites and their culture, it is clear Obama intellectually grasps the main currents of educated, upper-class, nice liberal thought and doesn't take his black preacher man persona too seriously. Booker, on the other hand, might actually buy into his own bilge (at least some of the time) and think that black agitation, black activism, anything but hard work and brains, is enough to build a civilization on and take mankind to the stars:

    "Yes, my fellow Americans, we will no longer accept our place at the back of the solar system. We will freedom ride next-generation starships to Alpha Centauri and beyond until the human species is no longer red-lined from the rest of the galaxy. Through embracing humanity's age-old instinct to explore we will have given new birth to an age of impassioned stumbling not seen since the dawn of this nation in 1492."

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Pericles

    Corey Booker played college football, which may have had something to do with his choice to go to Stanford. I’d be surprised if he had applied to Harvard and gotten rejected. He is also a Rhodes Scholar and has a law degree from Yale. I wouldn’t be so sure he’s less intelligent than Obama.

    Both are pretty conventional Democrats (neither has any original political ideas), and both have a “black preacher” rhetorical mode, though Obama carries his off a bit more confidently. The guy who runs the Richard Nixon account on Twitter quipped during the DNC that Booker talks like a black from the suburbs pretending to sound like an urban preacher, or something to that effect.

    The two main differences between Booker and Obama are:

    – Obama ran for president before his act got stale, 4 years after his big speech at the 2004 DNC, and 2 years after getting elected to the US Senate. In contrast, Booker was in Newark long enough for everyone to realize he had no magic (not that Obama would have done any better as mayor of Newark).

    – Booker doesn’t have a chip on his shoulder like Obama has due to his Muslim/exotic background. Booker is a conventional, if extremely high-achieving, upper middle class African American (his parents were IBM execs).

    • Agree: Triumph104
    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Dave Pinsen

    Corey (prolly gay) Booker just might end up as VP in months or years All depends if Her Heinous drops out before or after the Nov 2016 election which Trump might win anyways.

  25. @Dave Pinsen
    Another interesting new development with Black Lives Matter is that it has allied itself with Palestinians and against Israel -- sort of like what happened with black activists in the late '60s.

    A couple of months ago, Mark Suster, a Jewish venture capitalist in Los Angeles, wrote an essay in support of Black Lives Matter.
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/762858173434728448

    So I brought this new development to his attention.
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/761775306684436480

    Replies: @Anonymous, @CK, @CK, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Another interesting new development with Black Lives Matter is that it has allied itself with Palestinians and against Israel

    BLM has finally found a legitimate grievance.

    • Agree: Bill Jones
    • Replies: @ogunsiron
    @Anonymous

    I imagine that just like BDS and most of the anti-zionist left, they hate israel because they think of israelis as a bunch of Poles and Russians (ie, white people) who don't belong on brown land.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anon, @Joe Franklin

  26. @Truth
    @Jefferson

    And whatever this genius says, must be noted...

    Replies: @G Pinfold, @MEH 0910, @Hunsdon, @Grandpa Jack, @anon

    Stopped clocks…

  27. Keith Vaz [AKA "Sir Charles Pipkins"] says:

    BLM – Blatantly Lying Monkeys

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    @Keith Vaz


    BLM – Blatantly Lying Monkeys

     

    Must remember not to read Steve's comments section while having hot coffee. My nose is burning, thanks.
    , @AndrewR
    @Keith Vaz

    Not bad. Lots of fun to be had here.

    Bullies LARPing as Martyrs

    Black Lies Metastasize

    Bonobos Lividly Megalomaniacal

  28. @Jefferson
    "In other words, while “Black Activists Don’t Ignore Crime,” the national media, the Justice Department, and the Soros Foundation do ignore black activists who don’t ignore black on black crime the way their beloved Black Lives Matter ignores it."

    This is how you know Black Lies Matter was built on a hatred of White people more so than stopping police brutality, this organization has not expanded to racially homogeneous Black nations like Nigeria and Senegal for example.

    I have an extremely hard time believing that police brutality does not occur in racially homogeneous Negro nations.

    Where is the Sub Saharan African chapter of Black Lives Matter?

    Blacks just don't get as angry and don't feel the need to riot at the sight of Black police officers gunning down Black civilians.

    Replies: @CK, @NOTA, @Anonymous

    Possibly because they are aware that if they do riot the black police and the black army of the sub-Saharan paradises have no qualms about continuing to gun down anyone in the area.

  29. @Dave Pinsen
    Another interesting new development with Black Lives Matter is that it has allied itself with Palestinians and against Israel -- sort of like what happened with black activists in the late '60s.

    A couple of months ago, Mark Suster, a Jewish venture capitalist in Los Angeles, wrote an essay in support of Black Lives Matter.
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/762858173434728448

    So I brought this new development to his attention.
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/761775306684436480

    Replies: @Anonymous, @CK, @CK, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    I thought George Soros was the funder of BLM; has his legatee slipped the leash?

  30. @Dave Pinsen
    Another interesting new development with Black Lives Matter is that it has allied itself with Palestinians and against Israel -- sort of like what happened with black activists in the late '60s.

    A couple of months ago, Mark Suster, a Jewish venture capitalist in Los Angeles, wrote an essay in support of Black Lives Matter.
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/762858173434728448

    So I brought this new development to his attention.
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/761775306684436480

    Replies: @Anonymous, @CK, @CK, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    After a wee bit of Google-Fu, it appears that George Soros is also pro-Palestine.

  31. @Abe
    @Craig Nelsen


    “They protest violence, testify at city council hearings, press for gun-control reform and collaborate with politicians, faith-based organizations and, yes, even the police.”

    Everything but get married and raise kids to respect the police
     
    Watching the convention speech of 202X Democratic nominee-apparent Corey Booker, I was struck by the fact that, just as at the time they were both still college students in the late '80's it was apparent Stanford was just a bit of a step down from Harvard (back then I mean, not any more), so it is apparent Corey Booker is just a bit of a step down in terms of intellect and sensibility from Obama himself. Despite his ambivalence toward whites and their culture, it is clear Obama intellectually grasps the main currents of educated, upper-class, nice liberal thought and doesn't take his black preacher man persona too seriously. Booker, on the other hand, might actually buy into his own bilge (at least some of the time) and think that black agitation, black activism, anything but hard work and brains, is enough to build a civilization on and take mankind to the stars:

    "Yes, my fellow Americans, we will no longer accept our place at the back of the solar system. We will freedom ride next-generation starships to Alpha Centauri and beyond until the human species is no longer red-lined from the rest of the galaxy. Through embracing humanity's age-old instinct to explore we will have given new birth to an age of impassioned stumbling not seen since the dawn of this nation in 1492."

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Pericles

    We will freedom ride next-generation starships

    (pyramids)

  32. @Craig Nelsen
    "They protest violence, testify at city council hearings, press for gun-control reform and collaborate with politicians, faith-based organizations and, yes, even the police."

    Everything but get married and raise kids to respect the police.

    Replies: @Boomstick, @Abe, @CK, @yowza

    Were you not impressed with all the black fathers on stage at the democratic convention shedding tears for their sons, dead during the commission of various crimes and stupidities?

  33. @avraham
    The anti crime mothers organize "shoot outs?" What is that supposed to mean? It sounds like organizing one groups of criminals to take over from another group of criminals.

    Replies: @CK, @NOTA

    Shout loud enough shooting follows.

  34. @Truth
    @Anonymous


    What about black crime in general, especially black-on-White and black-on-Oriental crime. That is what we should be marching against.

     

    White crime victims are generally victimized by whites.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jefferson, @Lot, @Yak-15, @Erik Sieven, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon

    Not in the largest American cities outside of simple assault/battery. I have never met someone who has been robbed by a white guy in Chicago. Or shot by a white guy. Or stabbed by a white guy. Or…

    Then again, I am youngish and it seems that many of the bad whites were priced out of Chicago at least half a generation ago.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Yak-15

    "Not in the largest American cities outside of simple assault/battery. I have never met someone who has been robbed by a white guy in Chicago. Or shot by a white guy. Or stabbed by a white guy. Or…

    Then again, I am youngish and it seems that many of the bad whites were priced out of Chicago at least half a generation ago."

    If we are talking stranger on stranger violence, than Black on White violence is definitely way more common than White on White violence in The U.S.

    Among Whites who have been victims of Black violence, most of them have never met their apex predator before that day of the incident.

    The Whites in the Knoxville massacre for example had never before that day met the Black savages who kidnapped them, raped them, and burned them alive.

    24 hours before Michael Brown tried to steal Darren Wilson's gun, Darren had never met that thug before.

    With White on violence, most of the time there is some type of history between the victim and the prey.

  35. @Keith Vaz
    BLM - Blatantly Lying Monkeys

    Replies: @whorefinder, @AndrewR

    BLM – Blatantly Lying Monkeys

    Must remember not to read Steve’s comments section while having hot coffee. My nose is burning, thanks.

  36. “doing remarkable work to prevent and reduce crime.”

    Never knew “remarkable” was a synonym for “completely and obviously ineffective”. Thanks, New York Times writer person!

    • LOL: Buffalo Joe
  37. I’ve toyed with the idea of starting a local crime beat website/newspaper. Just run down the daily local crime stories and court decisions, but making sure to always note the name, race, age, and sex of the offender, and the name, age, race, and sex of the victim.

    I’m sure that wouldn’t make this whiny professional black call me racist and evil, get me credible death threats, and make every Lefty march in protest against me.

    Facts are evil and must be suppressed, comrades!

  38. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    http://abc7.com/news/67-year-old-woman-booked-for-murder-after-fist-fight-in-compton/1459644/

    67-YEAR-OLD WOMAN BOOKED FOR MURDER AFTER FIST-FIGHT IN COMPTON

    By ABC7.com staff
    Saturday, August 06, 2016 10:34AM

    COMPTON, Calif. (KABC) — A 67-year-old woman was booked for murder after physically fighting another woman in her 60s at a Compton park, sheriff’s officials said.

    Homicide detectives learned Compton Station deputies responded to the 2000 block of W. Alondra Boulevard at about 7 p.m. on Thursday on a call of a “woman not breathing.”

    When they arrived to the park, deputies found a 63-year-old woman lying on the ground and unresponsive.

  39. @Truth
    @Jefferson

    And whatever this genius says, must be noted...

    Replies: @G Pinfold, @MEH 0910, @Hunsdon, @Grandpa Jack, @anon

  40. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    People at the grass roots organize themselves against crime and the results are what? There’s been endless anti-violence marches in Chicago that garner media time but which do nothing. Only the police are in a position to act on it. In the white areas it usually boils down to lobbying for more police being assigned there. The black groups, often led by reverends, usually try to hit the holy grail of organizing which hopefully will culminate in a government grant and money contributed by goodwhites; send mo’ money. Meanwhile, seven dead and eleven wounded just on Monday in Chicago. The organizers and activists don’t seem to have been very effective in preventing anything. Perhaps Miller could “study” that and get back to us on why they are so lame.

    • Replies: @anon
    @anonymous


    Only the police are in a position to act on it.
     
    No, only the filthy lying media are in a position to act on it - public policy is paralyzed by them.
  41. Trump should promise to get 100,000 more cops on the streets like Clinton did in 1992. “More and better police protection” to make black neighborhoods safe should appeal to law-abiding African Americans trapped in the inner-cities. That plus his promise “to bring the jobs back from overseas” should be enough to attract a lot of black voters. But to make his point he needs to actually go into these areas and hold town-hall style meetings. Security would be an issue but it could be done, demonstrating his courage in the process. Go Trump!

    • Replies: @Luke Lea
    @Luke Lea

    Trump change, not chump change!

    , @NOTA
    @Luke Lea

    Project Zero (affiliated with BLM) proposes getting more black policemen for black neighborhoods. To the extent the bad relations between black communities and police come down to race, that seems like a prettygood suggestion.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Mr. Anon, @E. Rekshun

    , @NOTA
    @Luke Lea

    Project Zero (affiliated with BLM) proposes getting more black policemen for black neighborhoods. To the extent the bad relations between black communities and police come down to race, that seems like a prettygood suggestion.

    Replies: @Brutusale

  42. @Truth
    @Jefferson

    And whatever this genius says, must be noted...

    Replies: @G Pinfold, @MEH 0910, @Hunsdon, @Grandpa Jack, @anon

    We note what you say, Truth.

  43. BLM’s juices get flowing when the violence is non-black law enforcement officer on black body.

    Sure, a few BLM activist claim they don’t ignore garden variety black on black violence, but they certainly don’t get loud about it.

    • Replies: @John Chard
    @countenance


    Sure, a few BLM activist claim they don’t ignore garden variety black on black violence, but they certainly don’t get loud about it.
     
    What's amazing is that seemingly no BLM activists have anything to say about high black intraracial violence. All they would have to do is make some token boilerplate statements about how high crime rates are the unfortunate legacy of slavery and what we need is more g̶i̶b̶s̶m̶e̶d̶a̶t̶ investment in education and job training programs, and they'd protect their rhetorical right flank from people like Giuliani much better. Instead, they steadfastly refuse to acknowledge the existence, even in highly coded terms, of black crime.

    Replies: @artichoke

  44. @Luke Lea
    Trump should promise to get 100,000 more cops on the streets like Clinton did in 1992. "More and better police protection" to make black neighborhoods safe should appeal to law-abiding African Americans trapped in the inner-cities. That plus his promise "to bring the jobs back from overseas" should be enough to attract a lot of black voters. But to make his point he needs to actually go into these areas and hold town-hall style meetings. Security would be an issue but it could be done, demonstrating his courage in the process. Go Trump!

    Replies: @Luke Lea, @NOTA, @NOTA

    Trump change, not chump change!

  45. @Keith Vaz
    BLM - Blatantly Lying Monkeys

    Replies: @whorefinder, @AndrewR

    Not bad. Lots of fun to be had here.

    Bullies LARPing as Martyrs

    Black Lies Metastasize

    Bonobos Lividly Megalomaniacal

  46. Murder suspect en route to kill a witness finds he is distracted by a car’s approaching headlights, and so kills the driver of the car before going on to complete the murder of the witness.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article94179697.html

    A sort of Terminator day. Don’t know how BLM would spin this.

  47. Fundamentally, we have to recognize BLM as a black supremacist, semi-terrorist organization. There really is no getting around this. Then, given the tacit and overt support given BLM by media and political elites, among others, we have to acknowledge that this country is simply not ours anymore. Where do we go from here?

    • Replies: @anon
    @AndrewR


    we have to acknowledge that this country is simply not ours anymore. Where do we go from here?
     
    This is true but largely true only because most people don't realize it it's true. The media can manipulate people with its filtered reality in proportion to how much the media is a trusted source of information so if the hold of the media changes then the balance changes dramatically.

    Secondly and critically on this particular issue, the current situation is not in anyone's interests - not even the people doing it really - none of the minority groups, including black people, benefit from black crime being ignored - the other racial groups are blocked from doing anything about it by the way whites are manipulated by the media.

    The only people who think ignoring black crime is in their interests are the people who think keeping whites in a guilt-based mental head lock benefits them - aka the media - so basically the entire country of 300 million have a massive and entirely fixable social problem responsible for huge amounts of bloodshed because of the media.

    Replies: @bomag

  48. GW says:
    @Anonymous
    This black-on-black crime argument poses as truth telling and edgy when it is in fact the song of the cuckold.

    What about black crime in general, especially black-on-White and black-on-Oriental crime. That is what we should be marching against.

    Replies: @helena, @Truth, @GW, @AndrewR

    Back up and understand the context of the situation. Pointing out that the most dangerous thing to a black person isn’t the cops but fellow blacks isn’t done to cuck for blacks, but rather expose the phonyness of the black activists and white liberals who claim to care about black lives.

    • Agree: AndrewR, Percy Gryce
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @GW

    Back up and understand the context of the situation. Pointing out that the most dangerous thing to a black person isn’t the cops but fellow blacks isn’t done to cuck for blacks, but rather expose the phonyness of the black activists and white liberals who claim to care about black lives.

    Why is that more poignant than charging them with not caring about black violence (their own violence) against whites? Or even with perpetrating, as a community, that violence? Or with responsibility for high rates of criminality generally (which would partly explain the frequency of incidents with the police)?

    In any case, within the parameters of your frame, surely a distinction can be made between state-sanctioned violence against a group (violence by police against blacks) and violence by individual citizens against other citizens. So it isn't necessarily hypocrisy to protest one and not the other.

    Replies: @GW, @Joe Schmoe, @anon

    , @Anonymous
    @GW

    What about all the Whites who are victimized by black crime?

    Replies: @Pagoda

  49. @Dave Pinsen
    Another interesting new development with Black Lives Matter is that it has allied itself with Palestinians and against Israel -- sort of like what happened with black activists in the late '60s.

    A couple of months ago, Mark Suster, a Jewish venture capitalist in Los Angeles, wrote an essay in support of Black Lives Matter.
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/762858173434728448

    So I brought this new development to his attention.
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/761775306684436480

    Replies: @Anonymous, @CK, @CK, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    It’s like the two worst PR firms in the world decided to merge.

    Here’s Norman Finkelstein getting a little perturbed at a BDS activist trying to convince him of the hundreds of ‘community organizations’ backing BDS:

  50. @BenKenobi
    They protest violence, testify at city council hearings, press for gun-control reform and collaborate with politicians, faith-based organizations and, yes, even the police.

    Yeah, but do they you know, accomplish anything?

    Replies: @Anon7, @NOTA

    Nothing will happen until black activists and the white SJWs deal with the big (African) elephant in the room:

    “…the vast majority of blacks are killed in America… by other blacks.”

    Which is to say, nothing will happen. Some truths cannot be stated.

  51. It would have been a real coup for BLM if they could’ve gotten Omar Mateen’s dad to wear one of their t-shirts at the Hillary rally.

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/os-seddique-mateen-hillary-clinton-rally-kissimmee-20160809-story.html

  52. grass-roots organizations — many of which were founded by bereaved black women — are doing remarkable work to prevent and reduce crime.

    Isn’t the time to get excited about crime BEFORE your son is dead? Talk about closing the barn door after the horse is gone.

    These organizations may gather up some government grants but they do nothing to actually reduce crime. A REAL grass roots organization would involve young black men and their (in reality almost always absent) fathers, not their grieving mamas who were powerless over their gentle giants in the first place.

    • Replies: @ogunsiron
    @Jack D

    Isn’t the time to get excited about crime BEFORE your son is dead? Talk about closing the barn door after the horse is gone.
    ----
    The translesbos who founded BLM probably don't have sons, but I could be wrong.

    , @Tim
    @Jack D

    " grass-roots organizations — many of which were founded by bereaved black women — are doing remarkable work to prevent and reduce crime."

    "Isn’t the time to get excited about crime BEFORE your son is dead? Talk about closing the barn door after the horse is gone.

    These organizations may gather up some government grants but they do nothing to actually reduce crime. A REAL grass roots organization would involve young black men and their (in reality almost always absent) fathers, not their grieving mamas who were powerless over their gentle giants in the first place."

    "These organizations" I don't think ACTUALLY exist. "These organizations" are, in fact, just a couple moms who got T-Shirts that say the same thing, and who get in front of the local news camera, cry and say, "it's got to change!" I bet they don't even have the organizational skill to get free money from the government.

    But the bigger concern is the writer of this article. She wants us to know that SHE WAS THERE, MAN! She's been to the meetings of these grass-roots organizations. But if she's been there, then she knows, how NOTHING they are. She knows these "organizations" are ridiculous, and yet she writes about them as if they "are doing remarkable work to prevent and reduce crime." That's just a lie and she knows it. But she wants to be relevant--maybe there's a book in it--so she tells a lie.

    I think I'd rather my career stall than to go out and just lie to people.

    , @yowza
    @Jack D


    Isn’t the time to get excited about crime BEFORE your son is dead? Talk about closing the barn door after the horse is gone.
     
    Which begs the uncomfortable questions for any intrepid journalist which are, how did the dead boy's mom make her living before he died, and how is she making a living since creating her anti-crime group? If she's making money exclusively off her son's death, she's a parasite, and part of the black pathology that white people, and others, ignorantly perpetuate.

    Also, from past experience, I find it VERY hard to believe that any "grass-roots" black anti-crime, or Neighborhood Watch group would be effective in high crime areas due to friends and family members of anyone committing criminal behavior being right up the ass of Neighborhood Watch members the first time they took any action that directly affected the thugs. Thugs have access to the internet, Facebook, etc. They can look up your private information very quickly, and start working on you from there.

    From late night threatening phone calls, bullets entering your living room window, your car being defaced overnight, as well as direct violent physical responses make "neighborhood watch" organizations in black neighborhoods highly problematic, if not impossible.

    The writer of the article doesn't understand that you can't build a society made up of a significant number of operating, functional sociopaths. It doesn't work. To assume sociopaths aren't overrepresented in typical black neighborhoods is starting from a false premise, and all following conclusions will likely be invalid.

    A significant number of blacks lie, cheat, and steal amongst each other. Blacks exploit the weak amongst themselves. Blacks have immediate problems when they're transported, via section 8, to functional neighborhoods, because their pathology is met with immediate resistance by the community and it's police force.

    That's why, in non-black communities, "Black a Block" simply works. Beyond that places any community in peril. Not because of racism. It's a matter of collective pathology.

    Until poor Lisa Miller acknowledges these facts, her essays will remain unintentionally comedic. At best.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    , @NOTA
    @Jack D

    Plenty of black kids get murdered in cities like Chicago when they weren't involved in any crime or other bad behavior.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Jack D, @anon

    , @anon
    @Jack D

    What EXACTLY is this "remarkable work" to prevent and reduce crime? Specifics? Details? Sources? Statistics? Something to back up this claim of "remarkable work"? Anything?

    , @Brutusale
    @Jack D

    I saw the murdered moms on stage at the DNC, and all I could think was what happened to that mother and son from the black protest not to long ago? You remember, the mom who showed up to take her teen home, whacking him upside the head the whole time? I wonder if she kept him straight?

  53. #OnlyBlackLivesMatter

  54. I live in a majority black city in the deep south. It may surprise some without first hand knowledge that adult people in “the hood” don’t want their neighborhood ruled by thugs. BLM has nothing to do with it. BLM is an unwitting tool of the establishment, used to sow anger and strife in the society at large. The same establishment that will not prosecute blue crime. It’s called divide and conquer. If you want race war, whether you are black or white, you are a tool.

    • Replies: @dr kill
    @WorkingClass

    Dude, no one here is surprised.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @WorkingClass

    "It may surprise some without first hand knowledge that adult people in “the hood” don’t want their neighborhood ruled by thugs."

    And yet, they consistently support politicians and policies that help to make that possible.

  55. The whole black view of crime and order, including BLM, is an act of veiled flattery towards whites. Only whites (and, occasionally, honorary whites) have agency. Blacks who kill other blacks are somehow acting out some aspect of a broken society under white supremacy – they’re forced by circumstance to engage in all manner of illegal behavior and gunplay. So black on black violence and murder (really, any black on anyone violence) is the fault of whites. The police are overwhelmingly white (and blacks, Hispanics, etc. on the police force are honorary whites, together with “white Hispanic” civilians like Zimmerman) and therefore have agency. Thus, cops killing blacks (justifiably or no) is the fault of whites.

    It’s evident when the mother of a black victim gets license to make political pronouncements – the focus is always to address “root causes” like white people legally owning guns and to funnel government largesse to the Pastors or various government schemes liable to graft rather than calls for punishment of the perpetrator and/or calls for more aggressive policing and incarceration.

  56. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    "The Trust" in the semi-fictional drama "Reilly, Ace of Spies", was purported to be an anti-Soviet spy agency, but "The Trust" organization was in actuality created by the Soviets in order to monitor and control who was doing the spying and what was being spied on.

    On a lesser scale than global political intrigue, it has occurred to this writer that local agencies either government based, political, or "civic groups" are similarly organized as the fictional "Trust" and often serve the purpose of controlling the levels of dissent while allowing outrage, anger, and those with an active social conscience to blow off steam, with no visible results or action ever forthcoming. (Another example being how the Democrats own and control Fox News).

    The adroit use of "Roberts Rules of Order" will control a meeting or group completely, and the skilled chairman of a contested (city council, housing authority, or other group) meeting is truly a wonder to watch in action, the chair stifling and dampening criticism or complaint while also instantly parrying criticism through invoking "Roberts Rules". Those expert chairmen are worth their weight in gold, and this writer has seen some in action as glib as an auctioneer and as mellifluous as a Philadelphia lawyer.

    It's entirely possible that the many "minor" Black Activist groups mentioned in the news story above (likely many being activist Black Church groups that constantly need an "enemy" to complain about) follow similar form and are created much for the same purpose as described; those involved will feel they are doing their "civic duty" and assuaging their conscience, but nothing can or will be done.

    Besides, since money serves as the trappings and manifestations of success in the US, the prosperous "gansta" is placed on a social pedestal. Look how "gangsta rap" and hip-hop emulates gangster (criminal/anti-social) behavior and culture in word if not deed. Criminal enterprise is what probably what keeps the black communities solvent over and above the welfare state.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Percy Gryce

    “was in actuality created by the Soviets in order to monitor and control who was doing the spying and what was being spied on.”

    “It’s entirely possible that the many “minor” [White] Activist groups…[such as Steve Sailor’s columns in The Unz Reader]…that constantly need an “enemy” to complain about) follow similar form and are created much for the same purpose as described; those involved will feel they are doing their “civic duty” and assuaging their conscience, but nothing can or will be done.

  57. Black Lives Matter can find time to make silly statements about Israel/Palestine (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/04/black-lives-matter-platform-accuses-israel-genocide/), but for some reason it can’t find time to talk about the pervasiveness of black criminality.

  58. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @GW
    @Anonymous

    Back up and understand the context of the situation. Pointing out that the most dangerous thing to a black person isn't the cops but fellow blacks isn't done to cuck for blacks, but rather expose the phonyness of the black activists and white liberals who claim to care about black lives.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Back up and understand the context of the situation. Pointing out that the most dangerous thing to a black person isn’t the cops but fellow blacks isn’t done to cuck for blacks, but rather expose the phonyness of the black activists and white liberals who claim to care about black lives.

    Why is that more poignant than charging them with not caring about black violence (their own violence) against whites? Or even with perpetrating, as a community, that violence? Or with responsibility for high rates of criminality generally (which would partly explain the frequency of incidents with the police)?

    In any case, within the parameters of your frame, surely a distinction can be made between state-sanctioned violence against a group (violence by police against blacks) and violence by individual citizens against other citizens. So it isn’t necessarily hypocrisy to protest one and not the other.

    • Replies: @GW
    @Anonymous


    Why is that more poignant than charging them with not caring about black violence (their own violence) against whites?
     
    Because their entire protest movement is centered around the notion of black lives mattering. Arguing here that whites are victims of black crime doesn't refute their underlying message that black youths are in danger from violent police forces. Pointing out that black youths are 100x more likely to be killed by a fellow black youth than a cop undermines their message, particularly when you add that black activists rarely (i.e. never) protest against black criminality.

    Replies: @NOTA

    , @Joe Schmoe
    @Anonymous


    surely a distinction can be made between state-sanctioned violence against a group (violence by police against blacks) and violence by individual citizens against other citizens. So it isn’t necessarily hypocrisy to protest one and not the other.
     
    Okay.

    However, it is hypocrisy when the white liberal media ignores blacks who speak out against violence in the hood.

    Surely you noticed that anti war protesters just stopped appearing on TV and in the media as soon as Obama was elected. Those of us who saw protesters greeting Obama and the TV cameras at his local appearances noticed that none of them made it even onto the local coverage, but they were covered when Bush was in office.

    The media are liars.
    , @anon
    @Anonymous

    Judo

    1) The media has a huge amount of force behind it

    2) The media want to incite racial conflict for the election

    ergo they use that force to hype BLM.

    So the media's own power makes BLM a big issue in people's minds - including the literal meaning of the actual words - and then you flip it.

  59. @countenance
    BLM's juices get flowing when the violence is non-black law enforcement officer on black body.

    Sure, a few BLM activist claim they don't ignore garden variety black on black violence, but they certainly don't get loud about it.

    Replies: @John Chard

    Sure, a few BLM activist claim they don’t ignore garden variety black on black violence, but they certainly don’t get loud about it.

    What’s amazing is that seemingly no BLM activists have anything to say about high black intraracial violence. All they would have to do is make some token boilerplate statements about how high crime rates are the unfortunate legacy of slavery and what we need is more g̶i̶b̶s̶m̶e̶d̶a̶t̶ investment in education and job training programs, and they’d protect their rhetorical right flank from people like Giuliani much better. Instead, they steadfastly refuse to acknowledge the existence, even in highly coded terms, of black crime.

    • Replies: @artichoke
    @John Chard

    Their purpose has nothing to do with violence, but with equal outcomes. Demanding more of the pie, more $$$. Like the Flint Michigan mayor, when the lead water contamination story was still hot, not interested in science, not interested in new pipes, all she wanted was for white people to pay her a lot of money.

    Replies: @Anon7

  60. “this local organizing goes largely unnoticed by politicians, scholars and the news media…”

    …says the scholar writing in the news media to influence politics.

  61. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/separate-marches-mark-anniversary-of-michael-brown-s-death/article_3c35657f-2550-5295-91de-7d411d4a34b0.html

    Separate marches mark anniversary of Michael Brown’s death
    By Stephen Deere St. Louis Post-Dispatch Aug 6, 2016

    FERGUSON • One march was led by his father. The other by his mother. One went to the cemetery where he is buried, the other to a patch of black asphalt where his body lay for more than four hours.

    The processions marked the second anniversary of Michael Brown’s death, which is Tuesday, and attracted mothers and other family members of black people whose names were made famous by horrific circumstances.

    The first, led by Michael Brown Sr., began a little after 8 a.m. in the Canfield Green Apartments complex where a former Ferguson police officer shot the unarmed 18-year-old on Aug. 9, 2014.

    For 2½ hours, about a hundred people marched more than four miles through at least six municipalities to St. Peter’s Cemetery.

    Each mile was supposed symbolize an hour that Brown’s body lay in the street after he was shot. Officers from multiple agencies blocked streets and provided escorts for the march. A helicopter followed from the sky…

    “She would have me sitting at her kitchen sink washing dishes,” Carter said as she followed Michael Brown Sr. down Lucas & Hunt Road. “She would tell me stories about how loving and caring he was and how much of a gentleman he was, and she treated him like the man of the house.”

    Shortly after that march ended, Michael Brown’s mother, Lezley McSpadden, led about 40 people on Canfield Drive to the place where her son was shot…

    “We thank you for the overflow, the blessings, that are coming out of the deaths of our children,” she said. “This blood, on this patch, seen everywhere … this represents the way that we have been treated for years.”

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Anonymous

    The part of the article I found most poignant, most disturbing, was this: "... a former Ferguson police officer..."

    The injustice done to Officer Darren Wilson makes me ashamed of my country and its president. Other than that, there is nothing in this story that I care about.

    Replies: @Auntie Analogue

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Anonymous

    Anonymous, Thank you for the link, very telling that Brown's mother considered him to be the "man of the house." Those four words speak volumes to the largest problem in the black community.

    , @Kylie
    @Anonymous

    This news story from the St. Louis Metro area has a higher body count but hasn't gained anywhere near the notoriety that Brown's case has. No one is protesting the murders of these young black men.

    http://fox2now.com/2016/07/27/mother-asked-relatives-to-kill-witnesses-in-sons-murder-trial-prosecutors-say/

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    , @Cryptogenic
    @Anonymous

    My god, the lachrymose mythology of black people is absolutely embarrassing.

  62. @Anonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    Another interesting new development with Black Lives Matter is that it has allied itself with Palestinians and against Israel

    BLM has finally found a legitimate grievance.

    Replies: @ogunsiron

    I imagine that just like BDS and most of the anti-zionist left, they hate israel because they think of israelis as a bunch of Poles and Russians (ie, white people) who don’t belong on brown land.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @ogunsiron

    I imagine that just like BDS and most of the anti-zionist left, they hate israel because they think of israelis as a bunch of Poles and Russians (ie, white people) who don’t belong on brown land.

    What they think of Israelis then is mostly accurate. Most Jewish Israelis have no business being in Palestine. Israel is a manifestation of White supremacism.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @anon
    @ogunsiron

    why then do they not care about the indonesian occupation of papua. the occupiers (indonesians) are much lighter than the opressed papuans. in addition indonesia has killed 478,000 more papuans in their occupation than israel has in theirs.

    Replies: @anon, @ogunsiron

    , @Joe Franklin
    @ogunsiron

    Anti-Zion leftist dislike Israeli neocon fascism, don't hate Israeli Jews.

    Leftist in the US are the equivalent of secular Judaism in Israel.

    Neocons in the US are the equivalent of conservative Judaism in Israel.

  63. @Jack D

    grass-roots organizations — many of which were founded by bereaved black women — are doing remarkable work to prevent and reduce crime.
     
    Isn't the time to get excited about crime BEFORE your son is dead? Talk about closing the barn door after the horse is gone.

    These organizations may gather up some government grants but they do nothing to actually reduce crime. A REAL grass roots organization would involve young black men and their (in reality almost always absent) fathers, not their grieving mamas who were powerless over their gentle giants in the first place.

    Replies: @ogunsiron, @Tim, @yowza, @NOTA, @anon, @Brutusale

    Isn’t the time to get excited about crime BEFORE your son is dead? Talk about closing the barn door after the horse is gone.
    —-
    The translesbos who founded BLM probably don’t have sons, but I could be wrong.

  64. @Craig Nelsen
    "They protest violence, testify at city council hearings, press for gun-control reform and collaborate with politicians, faith-based organizations and, yes, even the police."

    Everything but get married and raise kids to respect the police.

    Replies: @Boomstick, @Abe, @CK, @yowza

    Everything but get married and raise kids to respect the police.

    Or any authority figure, because they have no competent male authority figures at home, and male authority figures matter. Additionally, if a kid’s dad is in jail, that’s that kid’s authority figure. It’s difficult if not impossible to fulfill that role from behind plexiglass, and in empathy to the incarcerated father, it’s also difficult to muster the will to even try after being reemed in the behind by your cell mates. It’s hard to have a “heart-to-heart” talk with your visiting son if your buttocks is oozing blood, or worse, from a forced homosexual encounter from the day before.

    Furthermore, boys being under their mother’s thumb exclusively tends to produce “man-girls” as they go forward past puberty. Self-indulgent, narcissistic, lack of empathy: essentially “mean girls” with additional testosterone adding to their confusion.

    Think of an obstinate 14 year old girl. Think of her intellectual and emotional life. Now think of that 14 year old girly brain transferred into a 20-something year old’s black man’s body, and black male pathology not only makes sense, it’s extremely predictable.

    A significant number of black men are really “Mean Girls.”

  65. @Anonymous
    This black-on-black crime argument poses as truth telling and edgy when it is in fact the song of the cuckold.

    What about black crime in general, especially black-on-White and black-on-Oriental crime. That is what we should be marching against.

    Replies: @helena, @Truth, @GW, @AndrewR

    Overuse of the word “cuckold” is the song of the dim.

    While certainly it would be cowardly to refuse to point out the reality that, proportionately, blacks are far more likely to be the perpetrators of interracial violence than the victims, when BLM is predicated on the implicit notion that the greatest threat to black lives are nonblacks and cops, there is nothing “cuckish” about mentioning black on black crime. Mentioning black on white crime to a BLM activist might be “non-cucked” but it would also be ineffective since the vast majority of BLMers obviously don’t care about whites. Pointing out their hypocrisy is, in my view, the most effective solution, and that is best accomplished by pointing to intraracial black crime. Because anyone who truly cared about black lives would focus more energy on getting the cops to neutralize violent blacks than on protesting black lives lost at the hands of police, the vast majority of which are lost due primarily to the poor choices of the deceased.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @AndrewR

    Mentioning black on white crime to a BLM activist might be “non-cucked” but it would also be ineffective since the vast majority of BLMers obviously don’t care about whites.

    Then they right there will immediately lose the moral high ground--and therefore the argument.

  66. She brags about 20 years wasted studying ‘Community Organizers’, and like a true libtard, comes to the wrong conclusion!! The Community Organizers can make stupid whites feel guilty, but they don’t have any influence with the stupid NAM’s. Stupid NAM’s will do whatever pops into their head at the moment, including shooting anybody they perceive as ‘dissing’ them.

    There’s no hope…

  67. @Jack D

    grass-roots organizations — many of which were founded by bereaved black women — are doing remarkable work to prevent and reduce crime.
     
    Isn't the time to get excited about crime BEFORE your son is dead? Talk about closing the barn door after the horse is gone.

    These organizations may gather up some government grants but they do nothing to actually reduce crime. A REAL grass roots organization would involve young black men and their (in reality almost always absent) fathers, not their grieving mamas who were powerless over their gentle giants in the first place.

    Replies: @ogunsiron, @Tim, @yowza, @NOTA, @anon, @Brutusale

    ” grass-roots organizations — many of which were founded by bereaved black women — are doing remarkable work to prevent and reduce crime.”

    “Isn’t the time to get excited about crime BEFORE your son is dead? Talk about closing the barn door after the horse is gone.

    These organizations may gather up some government grants but they do nothing to actually reduce crime. A REAL grass roots organization would involve young black men and their (in reality almost always absent) fathers, not their grieving mamas who were powerless over their gentle giants in the first place.”

    “These organizations” I don’t think ACTUALLY exist. “These organizations” are, in fact, just a couple moms who got T-Shirts that say the same thing, and who get in front of the local news camera, cry and say, “it’s got to change!” I bet they don’t even have the organizational skill to get free money from the government.

    But the bigger concern is the writer of this article. She wants us to know that SHE WAS THERE, MAN! She’s been to the meetings of these grass-roots organizations. But if she’s been there, then she knows, how NOTHING they are. She knows these “organizations” are ridiculous, and yet she writes about them as if they “are doing remarkable work to prevent and reduce crime.” That’s just a lie and she knows it. But she wants to be relevant–maybe there’s a book in it–so she tells a lie.

    I think I’d rather my career stall than to go out and just lie to people.

  68. @BenKenobi
    They protest violence, testify at city council hearings, press for gun-control reform and collaborate with politicians, faith-based organizations and, yes, even the police.

    Yeah, but do they you know, accomplish anything?

    Replies: @Anon7, @NOTA

    If you don’t trust the local police, and you also want something done about crime, you’re in a tough place. The obvious stuff to do to make the streets safer (put more cops on the street, lock more criminals up) may be stuff you think will either not be done fairly, or will introduce more problems than it solves. (Remember that the extra-long sentences for crack, now blamed for a lot of blacks spending long periods in prison, were advocated by a lot of black leaders trying to do something about the bloodshed and destruction of the arrival of crack in black neighborhoods.

  69. @Anonymous

    Claims like Mr. Giuliani’s aren’t just offensive or misplaced — they’re demonstrably wrong.
     
    Interesting that she states outright that demonstrable error isn't a precondition for a view to be "misplaced or offensive". Is that a sort of tacit acknowledgement that some aspects of the NYT worldview are antiscientific hogwash?

    Replies: @NOTA

    Yeah, I’m interested in wrong, but don’t care about offensive.

  70. @Jefferson
    "In other words, while “Black Activists Don’t Ignore Crime,” the national media, the Justice Department, and the Soros Foundation do ignore black activists who don’t ignore black on black crime the way their beloved Black Lives Matter ignores it."

    This is how you know Black Lies Matter was built on a hatred of White people more so than stopping police brutality, this organization has not expanded to racially homogeneous Black nations like Nigeria and Senegal for example.

    I have an extremely hard time believing that police brutality does not occur in racially homogeneous Negro nations.

    Where is the Sub Saharan African chapter of Black Lives Matter?

    Blacks just don't get as angry and don't feel the need to riot at the sight of Black police officers gunning down Black civilians.

    Replies: @CK, @NOTA, @Anonymous

    Do you also think nobody in the US really cares about terrorism unless they’re willing to invade and occupy Syria and Iraq? Maybe they’re just a lot more interested in safety for black Americans than for black Haitians, Kenyans, etc.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @NOTA


    ...unless they’re willing to invade and occupy Syria and Iraq...
     
    Okay, I see what you mean, but not quite an apt analogy; there's scant evidence that our current type of invasions lessen the risk of terrorism.

    However, most anti-terrorism groups are willing to consider all statistics and courses of action. BLM activists are playing a narrative game.
  71. Yes, Black Lives Matter when it suits the media narrative.

  72. @Jack D

    grass-roots organizations — many of which were founded by bereaved black women — are doing remarkable work to prevent and reduce crime.
     
    Isn't the time to get excited about crime BEFORE your son is dead? Talk about closing the barn door after the horse is gone.

    These organizations may gather up some government grants but they do nothing to actually reduce crime. A REAL grass roots organization would involve young black men and their (in reality almost always absent) fathers, not their grieving mamas who were powerless over their gentle giants in the first place.

    Replies: @ogunsiron, @Tim, @yowza, @NOTA, @anon, @Brutusale

    Isn’t the time to get excited about crime BEFORE your son is dead? Talk about closing the barn door after the horse is gone.

    Which begs the uncomfortable questions for any intrepid journalist which are, how did the dead boy’s mom make her living before he died, and how is she making a living since creating her anti-crime group? If she’s making money exclusively off her son’s death, she’s a parasite, and part of the black pathology that white people, and others, ignorantly perpetuate.

    Also, from past experience, I find it VERY hard to believe that any “grass-roots” black anti-crime, or Neighborhood Watch group would be effective in high crime areas due to friends and family members of anyone committing criminal behavior being right up the ass of Neighborhood Watch members the first time they took any action that directly affected the thugs. Thugs have access to the internet, Facebook, etc. They can look up your private information very quickly, and start working on you from there.

    From late night threatening phone calls, bullets entering your living room window, your car being defaced overnight, as well as direct violent physical responses make “neighborhood watch” organizations in black neighborhoods highly problematic, if not impossible.

    The writer of the article doesn’t understand that you can’t build a society made up of a significant number of operating, functional sociopaths. It doesn’t work. To assume sociopaths aren’t overrepresented in typical black neighborhoods is starting from a false premise, and all following conclusions will likely be invalid.

    A significant number of blacks lie, cheat, and steal amongst each other. Blacks exploit the weak amongst themselves. Blacks have immediate problems when they’re transported, via section 8, to functional neighborhoods, because their pathology is met with immediate resistance by the community and it’s police force.

    That’s why, in non-black communities, “Black a Block” simply works. Beyond that places any community in peril. Not because of racism. It’s a matter of collective pathology.

    Until poor Lisa Miller acknowledges these facts, her essays will remain unintentionally comedic. At best.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @yowza


    Also, from past experience, I find it VERY hard to believe that any “grass-roots” black anti-crime, or Neighborhood Watch group would be effective in high crime areas due to friends and family members of anyone committing criminal behavior being right up the ass of Neighborhood Watch members the first time they took any action that directly affected the thugs. Thugs have access to the internet, Facebook, etc. They can look up your private information very quickly, and start working on you from there.
     
    This is good stuff PDG.

    The writer of the article doesn’t understand that you can’t build a society made up of a significant number of operating, functional sociopaths. It doesn’t work.
     
    And with this, you're hitting the nail on the head.

    Having a functional civilization requires people who *in the mass* both want and demand civilization. Most blacks would sorta, kinda "like" to have their neighborhoods be more civilized. But they do not *demand* it, do not have the social\community cohesiveness to rout the criminals and thugs and their enablers. A large part of this is, of course, because they are feminized communities and lack enough males with a stake, with a civilizing interest--as opposed to males with a de-civilizing interest--to lay down the law and enforce civilized norms.

    Of course, sadly our white communities and nations are trending this way too. Feminization, is leaving us with nations that can be overrun with invading garbage without the males rising up and putting a stop to it.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  73. @avraham
    The anti crime mothers organize "shoot outs?" What is that supposed to mean? It sounds like organizing one groups of criminals to take over from another group of criminals.

    Replies: @CK, @NOTA

    Admittedly, if you could get the rival gangs to go kill each other off, it would probably drop the crime rate by quite a bit….

    • Replies: @avraham
    @NOTA

    I see your point but somehow it did not seem to me to be the point of that mother. Still I can see what you are getting at.

  74. @Luke Lea
    Trump should promise to get 100,000 more cops on the streets like Clinton did in 1992. "More and better police protection" to make black neighborhoods safe should appeal to law-abiding African Americans trapped in the inner-cities. That plus his promise "to bring the jobs back from overseas" should be enough to attract a lot of black voters. But to make his point he needs to actually go into these areas and hold town-hall style meetings. Security would be an issue but it could be done, demonstrating his courage in the process. Go Trump!

    Replies: @Luke Lea, @NOTA, @NOTA

    Project Zero (affiliated with BLM) proposes getting more black policemen for black neighborhoods. To the extent the bad relations between black communities and police come down to race, that seems like a prettygood suggestion.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas
    @NOTA

    Not a lot of blacks seem to want to be police officers, and the number of young black males with significant criminal histories is a major barrier to recruiting black officers.

    , @Oleaginous Outrager
    @NOTA

    To the extent the bad relations between black communities and police come down to race, that seems like a prettygood suggestion.

    First, the cause of the "bad relations" is predicated on facts not in evidence.

    Second, the solution is' too. David Simon covered this in both HOMICIDE and THE CORNER: Black cops see themselves as a different class from the hoodrats, regardless of race, and because the racial angle is neutralized, many of the most fierce cops with the worst abuse records are black.

    Witness, in regards to both points, the composition of the defendants in the Freddy Gray affair.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @NOTA

    "Project Zero (affiliated with BLM) proposes getting more black policemen for black neighborhoods. To the extent the bad relations between black communities and police come down to race, that seems like a prettygood suggestion."

    How about only black police officers for black neighborhoods and only white officers for white neighborhoods?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    , @E. Rekshun
    @NOTA

    @76: Project Zero (affiliated with BLM) proposes getting more black policemen for black neighborhoods.

    Well, assuming hiring standards for more black officers wouldn't need to be drastically lowered, where would all of these candidates come from. Every industry - STEM, military, law & grad schools, corporate America, federal and local governments, fire departments, Major League Baseball, NFL head coaching, etc. - is desperately trying to get significantly more blacks in the ranks. There just aren't enough, be that qualified or unqualified, to go around.

    Replies: @Triumph104

  75. @Luke Lea
    Trump should promise to get 100,000 more cops on the streets like Clinton did in 1992. "More and better police protection" to make black neighborhoods safe should appeal to law-abiding African Americans trapped in the inner-cities. That plus his promise "to bring the jobs back from overseas" should be enough to attract a lot of black voters. But to make his point he needs to actually go into these areas and hold town-hall style meetings. Security would be an issue but it could be done, demonstrating his courage in the process. Go Trump!

    Replies: @Luke Lea, @NOTA, @NOTA

    Project Zero (affiliated with BLM) proposes getting more black policemen for black neighborhoods. To the extent the bad relations between black communities and police come down to race, that seems like a prettygood suggestion.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @NOTA

    Doesn't the date show that black cops are MORE inclined to shoot?

    Replies: @Anonymous

  76. @Jack D

    grass-roots organizations — many of which were founded by bereaved black women — are doing remarkable work to prevent and reduce crime.
     
    Isn't the time to get excited about crime BEFORE your son is dead? Talk about closing the barn door after the horse is gone.

    These organizations may gather up some government grants but they do nothing to actually reduce crime. A REAL grass roots organization would involve young black men and their (in reality almost always absent) fathers, not their grieving mamas who were powerless over their gentle giants in the first place.

    Replies: @ogunsiron, @Tim, @yowza, @NOTA, @anon, @Brutusale

    Plenty of black kids get murdered in cities like Chicago when they weren’t involved in any crime or other bad behavior.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @NOTA

    An African-American problem that requires an African-American solution, preferably one that relies on African-American funding.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas

    , @Jack D
    @NOTA

    I wouldn't say plenty, I would say some. It's true that it's hard to aim when you hold your pistol sideways in the approved ghetto fashion and that they often miss and hit innocent bystanders, but I think that in more than a majority of the cases the bullet hits its intended target and said intended target is in some way involved in crime also.

    , @anon
    @NOTA

    Okay. But who exactly is killing these black kids who are not into crime or bad behaviour? If you could show say, that it is largely Finnish immigrants doing the killings, then we could solve the problem by just ending immigration from Finland for example. If it is largely blacks doing the killing, then we are right back at the black community as the cause of, and the only possible answer to, this problem.

    Replies: @NOTA

  77. IMHO White people have a moral and more importantly, a fiscal duty to lecture Black at every turn about the failings of the Black community as a whole.

    The Black underclass engaging in constant, tribal violence so that the baddest warrior can brag/boast of the most coup-counting ultraviolence and impregnate the hottest women; like Clockwork Orange only with Black people. And the Black elite not demanding the Black underclass cease violence as a way of demonstrating masculine attractiveness. As much as we as White people need to lecture Tookie types, on the unacceptable violence and inevitable White consequences that White will deal out eventually; we also need to lecture Michelle Obama and Barack on their culpability of being “Hitler’s Willing Executioners” by enabling massive and constant violence in the Black Underclass.

    Black people elite and underclass alike need to be told in no uncertain terms that the ordinary White taxpayer will reach a sudden breaking point and stop this. If need be by restricting rights, actions, and everything else based on race and ethnicity since the idea of citizenship and non-racial rules has already been shredded; and all that remains is White restraint and White elite rule; both shaky and questionable.

    The biggest issue is fiscal. All the money that murders cost (roughly $17 million Slate notwithstanding) comes out of White taxpaying pockets. Add in the aggregate effect of constant violence making Black underclass areas a massively dependent tax hole, requiring White tax dollar subsidies instead of GENERATING TAX REVENUE and Whites …

    ARE PAYING FOR BLACK VIOLENCE. And again, Black violence is pretty much 90% at least aimed at producing sexy killers for Black women who desire said thugs. Rap Music is a giant minstrel show of thug-ism parading around for Black women who desire the most ultraviolent as an expression of dominance.

    IMHO Whites particularly working class / middle class Whites who pay for all of this should demand Black women stop acting “stupid and slutty” and that Black underclass people instead demonstrate dominance by mastery. A Black underclass ghetto kid may not have it in him to be the next Silicon Valley whiz, he can certainly be a master cake decorator. Or sous chef. No one would accuse Gordon Ramsey of being a genius; surely there are many Black underclass men who can achieve a lesser mastery of culinary, woodworking, bicycle repair, or other craft skills.

    Mastery demonstrates its own social dominance, and unlike street violence lasts far beyond one’s twenties.

    But, and I am totally serious, White middle/working class taxpayers (elites avoid taxes like Hillary! any prosecution for security violations) need to be assertive and stop tolerating Black underclass free riding and Black elite “Hitler enabling” (and we need to be as hard/offensive as possible to break through Black elite piteous self regard) a constant grind of violence that is becoming rapidly unaffordable.

    Bonus points — show Black elites that the demands of money to take in refugees from around the world means they’ll have to give up not only free-riding on White taxpayer money but their social position as refugees need it more.

    No more walking on eggshells, avoiding the subject, groveling. Black murders are a free-ride on the White taxpayer so some thug can have sex.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Whiskey


    White people have a moral and more importantly, a fiscal duty to lecture Black at every turn about the failings of the Black community
     
    Right - that will be a productive use of time! Get off the opiates if you are on them. Try meditation and hard liquor if you are not.
    , @bomag
    @Whiskey


    the current situation is not in anyone’s interests
     
    Blacks like the current situation just fine. You are not going to talk anyone out of their support. YT is happy to pay and march in the street with BLM. We're up against social erosion and the reversion to more primal existence.
    , @Gross Terry
    @Whiskey

    like a lot of internet nerds, you under-estimate the skills and intellectual discipline required of skilled trade. Trayvon the electrician will burn down your house. D'rickshaw the plumber will flood your man cave with sewage. And no, the angles will not line up in Quantaviouses colonial style dining set.

    The people who used to be employed in the skilled trades still exist; they are now in sub worthless 4 year college programs for the chance at marginal white collar labor. The black underclass is only qualified for the same sort of labor they were imported for in the first place; unskilled agricultural.

    Replies: @Triumph104, @stillCARealist

  78. I’ve noted before that black crime victims don’t get noticed by the MSM because they would have to show the suspect, who will also be black, and that won’t do.

    Media types sometimes whine about “dead pretty white girls” getting attention. Well, this only happens if the suspect looks like Scott Peterson or Joran Van der Sloot, or even Casey Anthony.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas
    @David In TN


    Media types sometimes whine about “dead pretty white girls” getting attention. Well, this only happens if the suspect looks like Scott Peterson or Joran Van der Sloot, or even Casey Anthony.
     
    This is true, but it's also true that Lacy Peterson, Natalie Holloway and similar died doing lawful, peaceful, typically middle class things in seemingly safe, middle class places. They're simply more relatable to a large section of core America and therefore viewer interest (and with it ad dollars) is maximized by covering these stories out of proportion to their frequency and significance compared with other newsworthy items. Plenty of bright, promising (at least in their parents' esteem) middle class white girls go on Spring Break with their friends at a foreign tropical resort, and plenty of middle class white girls marry their dream man and get pregnant before discovering he's a cheating cad with a dark side. These stories play on middle class anxieties and fears. A murdered black prostitute or 14 year old black boy out on the street at 1 a.m. on a Wednesday night caught in an exchange of gang-related gun fire just don't resonate with middle class white news consumers. The relative lack of interest I think has a lot to do with the fact that they can't really see their sons and daughters caught up in similar situations.

    That said, I think this might also be due to an increasing divergence of media consumption and viewership patters between whites and blacks. Media is more decentralized and diffuse than ever before, and blacks now have their own media and news designed to appeal narrowly to blacks (and not whites) so it stands to reason that matters of concern to blacks would not get excessive coverage if blacks aren't watching those shows anyway.
  79. @NOTA
    @avraham

    Admittedly, if you could get the rival gangs to go kill each other off, it would probably drop the crime rate by quite a bit....

    Replies: @avraham

    I see your point but somehow it did not seem to me to be the point of that mother. Still I can see what you are getting at.

  80. @GW
    @Anonymous

    Back up and understand the context of the situation. Pointing out that the most dangerous thing to a black person isn't the cops but fellow blacks isn't done to cuck for blacks, but rather expose the phonyness of the black activists and white liberals who claim to care about black lives.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    What about all the Whites who are victimized by black crime?

    • Replies: @Pagoda
    @Anonymous

    That is caused by racist white people themselves. You know that. But sadly, sometimes young, understanding, white homosexual men are killed such as what happened recently in DC. Racist whites are to blame for that as well.

  81. @NOTA
    @Luke Lea

    Project Zero (affiliated with BLM) proposes getting more black policemen for black neighborhoods. To the extent the bad relations between black communities and police come down to race, that seems like a prettygood suggestion.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Mr. Anon, @E. Rekshun

    Not a lot of blacks seem to want to be police officers, and the number of young black males with significant criminal histories is a major barrier to recruiting black officers.

  82. @Anonymous
    "The Trust" in the semi-fictional drama "Reilly, Ace of Spies", was purported to be an anti-Soviet spy agency, but "The Trust" organization was in actuality created by the Soviets in order to monitor and control who was doing the spying and what was being spied on.

    On a lesser scale than global political intrigue, it has occurred to this writer that local agencies either government based, political, or "civic groups" are similarly organized as the fictional "Trust" and often serve the purpose of controlling the levels of dissent while allowing outrage, anger, and those with an active social conscience to blow off steam, with no visible results or action ever forthcoming. (Another example being how the Democrats own and control Fox News).

    The adroit use of "Roberts Rules of Order" will control a meeting or group completely, and the skilled chairman of a contested (city council, housing authority, or other group) meeting is truly a wonder to watch in action, the chair stifling and dampening criticism or complaint while also instantly parrying criticism through invoking "Roberts Rules". Those expert chairmen are worth their weight in gold, and this writer has seen some in action as glib as an auctioneer and as mellifluous as a Philadelphia lawyer.

    It's entirely possible that the many "minor" Black Activist groups mentioned in the news story above (likely many being activist Black Church groups that constantly need an "enemy" to complain about) follow similar form and are created much for the same purpose as described; those involved will feel they are doing their "civic duty" and assuaging their conscience, but nothing can or will be done.

    Besides, since money serves as the trappings and manifestations of success in the US, the prosperous "gansta" is placed on a social pedestal. Look how "gangsta rap" and hip-hop emulates gangster (criminal/anti-social) behavior and culture in word if not deed. Criminal enterprise is what probably what keeps the black communities solvent over and above the welfare state.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Percy Gryce

    The adroit use of “Roberts Rules of Order” will control a meeting or group completely, and the skilled chairman of a contested (city council, housing authority, or other group) meeting is truly a wonder to watch in action, the chair stifling and dampening criticism or complaint while also instantly parrying criticism through invoking “Roberts Rules”. Those expert chairmen are worth their weight in gold, and this writer has seen some in action as glib as an auctioneer and as mellifluous as a Philadelphia lawyer.

    Indeed. I’m reading Noel Annan’s The Dons: Mentors, Eccentrics and Geniuses and, in his chapter on Benjamin Jowett, he cites an instance when Jowett’s successor Sandy Lindsay was chairing a meeting (either as Master of Balliol College or as Vice-Chancellor of the whole University) and the vote was entirely against him and him alone. His reply was that “It appears we’ve reached a stalemate.”

  83. @Anonymous
    @GW

    What about all the Whites who are victimized by black crime?

    Replies: @Pagoda

    That is caused by racist white people themselves. You know that. But sadly, sometimes young, understanding, white homosexual men are killed such as what happened recently in DC. Racist whites are to blame for that as well.

  84. Steve, I’ve also just started reading Jeffrey Toobin’s American Heiress: The Wild Saga of the Kidnapping, Crimes, and Trial of Patty Hearst.

    In the first couple of chapters, we’re introduced to the Hearst family, the Symbionese Liberation Army, the Prison Movement (and its heroes like George Jackson, founder of the Black Guerilla Family), and Oakland school politics, among other things. So far, it’s hard to conceive of a more iSteve-y book outside the oeuvre of Charles Murray.

    Surely you’ll review it for Taki’s?

    One thing I’ve learned already is that, prior to the 1970s, California had an indeterminate-prison-sentencing system. A crook could get one year to life for theft. I wonder how much that kind of system kept a lid on crime rates that seemed to explode after its abandonment.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Percy Gryce

    I've just finished the book and am looking forward to a review by Steve.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

  85. @David In TN
    I've noted before that black crime victims don't get noticed by the MSM because they would have to show the suspect, who will also be black, and that won't do.

    Media types sometimes whine about "dead pretty white girls" getting attention. Well, this only happens if the suspect looks like Scott Peterson or Joran Van der Sloot, or even Casey Anthony.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas

    Media types sometimes whine about “dead pretty white girls” getting attention. Well, this only happens if the suspect looks like Scott Peterson or Joran Van der Sloot, or even Casey Anthony.

    This is true, but it’s also true that Lacy Peterson, Natalie Holloway and similar died doing lawful, peaceful, typically middle class things in seemingly safe, middle class places. They’re simply more relatable to a large section of core America and therefore viewer interest (and with it ad dollars) is maximized by covering these stories out of proportion to their frequency and significance compared with other newsworthy items. Plenty of bright, promising (at least in their parents’ esteem) middle class white girls go on Spring Break with their friends at a foreign tropical resort, and plenty of middle class white girls marry their dream man and get pregnant before discovering he’s a cheating cad with a dark side. These stories play on middle class anxieties and fears. A murdered black prostitute or 14 year old black boy out on the street at 1 a.m. on a Wednesday night caught in an exchange of gang-related gun fire just don’t resonate with middle class white news consumers. The relative lack of interest I think has a lot to do with the fact that they can’t really see their sons and daughters caught up in similar situations.

    That said, I think this might also be due to an increasing divergence of media consumption and viewership patters between whites and blacks. Media is more decentralized and diffuse than ever before, and blacks now have their own media and news designed to appeal narrowly to blacks (and not whites) so it stands to reason that matters of concern to blacks would not get excessive coverage if blacks aren’t watching those shows anyway.

  86. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jefferson
    "In other words, while “Black Activists Don’t Ignore Crime,” the national media, the Justice Department, and the Soros Foundation do ignore black activists who don’t ignore black on black crime the way their beloved Black Lives Matter ignores it."

    This is how you know Black Lies Matter was built on a hatred of White people more so than stopping police brutality, this organization has not expanded to racially homogeneous Black nations like Nigeria and Senegal for example.

    I have an extremely hard time believing that police brutality does not occur in racially homogeneous Negro nations.

    Where is the Sub Saharan African chapter of Black Lives Matter?

    Blacks just don't get as angry and don't feel the need to riot at the sight of Black police officers gunning down Black civilians.

    Replies: @CK, @NOTA, @Anonymous

    In my opinion, blacks are okay with other black cops shooting is because they simply have more respect for them. Black criminals assume whites are weak and resent any aggression or pushback by whites that challenges this belief.
    I think this also ties in with the police videos we see of shootings; the blacks are extremely aggressive with the police and ignore their authority, which makes the cops draw their weapons.

  87. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @ogunsiron
    @Anonymous

    I imagine that just like BDS and most of the anti-zionist left, they hate israel because they think of israelis as a bunch of Poles and Russians (ie, white people) who don't belong on brown land.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anon, @Joe Franklin

    I imagine that just like BDS and most of the anti-zionist left, they hate israel because they think of israelis as a bunch of Poles and Russians (ie, white people) who don’t belong on brown land.

    What they think of Israelis then is mostly accurate. Most Jewish Israelis have no business being in Palestine. Israel is a manifestation of White supremacism.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    Roughly half of Israeli Jews are brown people who were expelled from Arab lands.

    By the same logic, white (and black) people have no business in America either. Jewish claims to Palestine go back almost 3,000 years. White people just showed up in America and had ZERO prior claim.

    When my father was a kid in Poland, he would get taunted with cries of "Jews to Palestine" (and that was before the Germans showed up and things got REALLY bad). Now Jews are being told "Jews out of Palestine". One might get the idea that there are people who really would prefer that there be no Jews anywhere. This is the kind of logic that leads to the Final Solution.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @iSteveFan, @anon

  88. @NOTA
    @Jack D

    Plenty of black kids get murdered in cities like Chicago when they weren't involved in any crime or other bad behavior.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Jack D, @anon

    An African-American problem that requires an African-American solution, preferably one that relies on African-American funding.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas
    @Kylie

    Tyler Perry stars in Madia Stops Da Murderin' Up 'Roun In Here.

  89. @AndrewR
    @Anonymous

    Overuse of the word "cuckold" is the song of the dim.

    While certainly it would be cowardly to refuse to point out the reality that, proportionately, blacks are far more likely to be the perpetrators of interracial violence than the victims, when BLM is predicated on the implicit notion that the greatest threat to black lives are nonblacks and cops, there is nothing "cuckish" about mentioning black on black crime. Mentioning black on white crime to a BLM activist might be "non-cucked" but it would also be ineffective since the vast majority of BLMers obviously don't care about whites. Pointing out their hypocrisy is, in my view, the most effective solution, and that is best accomplished by pointing to intraracial black crime. Because anyone who truly cared about black lives would focus more energy on getting the cops to neutralize violent blacks than on protesting black lives lost at the hands of police, the vast majority of which are lost due primarily to the poor choices of the deceased.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Mentioning black on white crime to a BLM activist might be “non-cucked” but it would also be ineffective since the vast majority of BLMers obviously don’t care about whites.

    Then they right there will immediately lose the moral high ground–and therefore the argument.

  90. GW says:
    @Anonymous
    @GW

    Back up and understand the context of the situation. Pointing out that the most dangerous thing to a black person isn’t the cops but fellow blacks isn’t done to cuck for blacks, but rather expose the phonyness of the black activists and white liberals who claim to care about black lives.

    Why is that more poignant than charging them with not caring about black violence (their own violence) against whites? Or even with perpetrating, as a community, that violence? Or with responsibility for high rates of criminality generally (which would partly explain the frequency of incidents with the police)?

    In any case, within the parameters of your frame, surely a distinction can be made between state-sanctioned violence against a group (violence by police against blacks) and violence by individual citizens against other citizens. So it isn't necessarily hypocrisy to protest one and not the other.

    Replies: @GW, @Joe Schmoe, @anon

    Why is that more poignant than charging them with not caring about black violence (their own violence) against whites?

    Because their entire protest movement is centered around the notion of black lives mattering. Arguing here that whites are victims of black crime doesn’t refute their underlying message that black youths are in danger from violent police forces. Pointing out that black youths are 100x more likely to be killed by a fellow black youth than a cop undermines their message, particularly when you add that black activists rarely (i.e. never) protest against black criminality.

    • Replies: @NOTA
    @GW

    What is the actual ratio of probabilities?

    From the Washington Post's 2015 data, 258 blacks were shot dead by police.

    From the 2014 FBI numbers, 6095 blacks murdered. About 90% of murder arrests for a black victim arrest a black suspect. So about 5485 blacks were murdered by blacks in 2014. So it looks like a good first cut is that police kill blacks about 1/20 as often as black civilians kill other blacks. (This isn't quite oranges to oranges because it's 2014 vs 2015 data, and the post's database only counts shootings, whereas the mirder data is for all methods.)

    Replies: @bomag

  91. Ok, the most Sailer story of the year has to be the fact the father of the mass murdering Muslim Orlando shooter was spotted–and then interviewed–by an incredulous local reporter.

    Steve, get on it!

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    @GW

    Is the Orlando shooter's wife still missing?

  92. @Anonymous

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/separate-marches-mark-anniversary-of-michael-brown-s-death/article_3c35657f-2550-5295-91de-7d411d4a34b0.html

    Separate marches mark anniversary of Michael Brown's death
    By Stephen Deere St. Louis Post-Dispatch Aug 6, 2016

    FERGUSON • One march was led by his father. The other by his mother. One went to the cemetery where he is buried, the other to a patch of black asphalt where his body lay for more than four hours.

    The processions marked the second anniversary of Michael Brown’s death, which is Tuesday, and attracted mothers and other family members of black people whose names were made famous by horrific circumstances.

    The first, led by Michael Brown Sr., began a little after 8 a.m. in the Canfield Green Apartments complex where a former Ferguson police officer shot the unarmed 18-year-old on Aug. 9, 2014.

    For 2½ hours, about a hundred people marched more than four miles through at least six municipalities to St. Peter’s Cemetery.

    Each mile was supposed symbolize an hour that Brown’s body lay in the street after he was shot. Officers from multiple agencies blocked streets and provided escorts for the march. A helicopter followed from the sky...

    “She would have me sitting at her kitchen sink washing dishes,” Carter said as she followed Michael Brown Sr. down Lucas & Hunt Road. “She would tell me stories about how loving and caring he was and how much of a gentleman he was, and she treated him like the man of the house.”

    Shortly after that march ended, Michael Brown’s mother, Lezley McSpadden, led about 40 people on Canfield Drive to the place where her son was shot...

    “We thank you for the overflow, the blessings, that are coming out of the deaths of our children,” she said. “This blood, on this patch, seen everywhere ... this represents the way that we have been treated for years.”
     

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Buffalo Joe, @Kylie, @Cryptogenic

    The part of the article I found most poignant, most disturbing, was this: “… a former Ferguson police officer…”

    The injustice done to Officer Darren Wilson makes me ashamed of my country and its president. Other than that, there is nothing in this story that I care about.

    • Agree: Auntie Analogue, Kylie
    • Replies: @Auntie Analogue
    @Harry Baldwin


    "The injustice done to Officer Darren Wilson makes me ashamed of my country and its president. Other than that, there is nothing in this story that I care about."

     

    My dear Harry Baldwin, you got to the core of the matter.

    There is now a Michael Brown college fund: a college fund named for the punk cigar store strong-arm thief, for the gun-grabbing attacker of the policeman who was forced from his job and career and for whom no college fund will ever be named.

    Shame is right, shame so profound as to be indescribable.
  93. @ogunsiron
    @Anonymous

    I imagine that just like BDS and most of the anti-zionist left, they hate israel because they think of israelis as a bunch of Poles and Russians (ie, white people) who don't belong on brown land.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anon, @Joe Franklin

    why then do they not care about the indonesian occupation of papua. the occupiers (indonesians) are much lighter than the opressed papuans. in addition indonesia has killed 478,000 more papuans in their occupation than israel has in theirs.

    • Replies: @anon
    @anon

    The media doesn't report it because...

    it would mess up their anti-white narrative.

    , @ogunsiron
    @anon

    You're asking me why anti-europeans hypocritically fail to criticize brown on black genocide ? You're asking me why they only focus on (perceived as) white misdeeds as opposed to misdeeds in general ?

  94. @Percy Gryce
    Steve, I've also just started reading Jeffrey Toobin's American Heiress: The Wild Saga of the Kidnapping, Crimes, and Trial of Patty Hearst.

    In the first couple of chapters, we're introduced to the Hearst family, the Symbionese Liberation Army, the Prison Movement (and its heroes like George Jackson, founder of the Black Guerilla Family), and Oakland school politics, among other things. So far, it's hard to conceive of a more iSteve-y book outside the oeuvre of Charles Murray.

    Surely you'll review it for Taki's?

    One thing I've learned already is that, prior to the 1970s, California had an indeterminate-prison-sentencing system. A crook could get one year to life for theft. I wonder how much that kind of system kept a lid on crime rates that seemed to explode after its abandonment.

    Replies: @David In TN

    I’ve just finished the book and am looking forward to a review by Steve.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    @David In TN

    I've always been fascinated by the Patty Hearst case and I've always been fairly sympathetic towards her. I've heard Toobin interviewed, though, and he is surprisingly hard on her. (He also mentions that she's the only person in U.S. history to have received executive clemency from two different presidents: a commutation from Carter and a full pardon from W.J. Clinton.)

    Replies: @David In TN

  95. OT: Hillary certainly has the Moslem vote locked up, that graffiti of her in a niqab wasn’t so far-fetched http://www.wptv.com/news/state/orlando-shooters-father-attends-hillary-clinton-rally-in-kissimmee

  96. @Anonymous

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/separate-marches-mark-anniversary-of-michael-brown-s-death/article_3c35657f-2550-5295-91de-7d411d4a34b0.html

    Separate marches mark anniversary of Michael Brown's death
    By Stephen Deere St. Louis Post-Dispatch Aug 6, 2016

    FERGUSON • One march was led by his father. The other by his mother. One went to the cemetery where he is buried, the other to a patch of black asphalt where his body lay for more than four hours.

    The processions marked the second anniversary of Michael Brown’s death, which is Tuesday, and attracted mothers and other family members of black people whose names were made famous by horrific circumstances.

    The first, led by Michael Brown Sr., began a little after 8 a.m. in the Canfield Green Apartments complex where a former Ferguson police officer shot the unarmed 18-year-old on Aug. 9, 2014.

    For 2½ hours, about a hundred people marched more than four miles through at least six municipalities to St. Peter’s Cemetery.

    Each mile was supposed symbolize an hour that Brown’s body lay in the street after he was shot. Officers from multiple agencies blocked streets and provided escorts for the march. A helicopter followed from the sky...

    “She would have me sitting at her kitchen sink washing dishes,” Carter said as she followed Michael Brown Sr. down Lucas & Hunt Road. “She would tell me stories about how loving and caring he was and how much of a gentleman he was, and she treated him like the man of the house.”

    Shortly after that march ended, Michael Brown’s mother, Lezley McSpadden, led about 40 people on Canfield Drive to the place where her son was shot...

    “We thank you for the overflow, the blessings, that are coming out of the deaths of our children,” she said. “This blood, on this patch, seen everywhere ... this represents the way that we have been treated for years.”
     

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Buffalo Joe, @Kylie, @Cryptogenic

    Anonymous, Thank you for the link, very telling that Brown’s mother considered him to be the “man of the house.” Those four words speak volumes to the largest problem in the black community.

  97. @Truth
    @Anonymous


    What about black crime in general, especially black-on-White and black-on-Oriental crime. That is what we should be marching against.

     

    White crime victims are generally victimized by whites.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jefferson, @Lot, @Yak-15, @Erik Sieven, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon

    I wonder which percentage of European and Asian Americans was ever beaten up or intimidated over a longer period by black people in High School. When it comes to violence, one should not only talk about homicides. It is those years in school as children and teenagers, which shape the perception of the world.
    Obviously a lot of white / asian people have this deep fear, and because of that admiration of black people. They fear them so much that they do not even dare to admit they fear them. Maybe this is because of those experiences in school.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Erik Sieven

    normal black people are scared of black psychos too

    they're scared of white psychos as well

    the only people not scared of psychos are psychos

    the only difference is the percentage of psychos varies between population groups

  98. @Anonymous

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/separate-marches-mark-anniversary-of-michael-brown-s-death/article_3c35657f-2550-5295-91de-7d411d4a34b0.html

    Separate marches mark anniversary of Michael Brown's death
    By Stephen Deere St. Louis Post-Dispatch Aug 6, 2016

    FERGUSON • One march was led by his father. The other by his mother. One went to the cemetery where he is buried, the other to a patch of black asphalt where his body lay for more than four hours.

    The processions marked the second anniversary of Michael Brown’s death, which is Tuesday, and attracted mothers and other family members of black people whose names were made famous by horrific circumstances.

    The first, led by Michael Brown Sr., began a little after 8 a.m. in the Canfield Green Apartments complex where a former Ferguson police officer shot the unarmed 18-year-old on Aug. 9, 2014.

    For 2½ hours, about a hundred people marched more than four miles through at least six municipalities to St. Peter’s Cemetery.

    Each mile was supposed symbolize an hour that Brown’s body lay in the street after he was shot. Officers from multiple agencies blocked streets and provided escorts for the march. A helicopter followed from the sky...

    “She would have me sitting at her kitchen sink washing dishes,” Carter said as she followed Michael Brown Sr. down Lucas & Hunt Road. “She would tell me stories about how loving and caring he was and how much of a gentleman he was, and she treated him like the man of the house.”

    Shortly after that march ended, Michael Brown’s mother, Lezley McSpadden, led about 40 people on Canfield Drive to the place where her son was shot...

    “We thank you for the overflow, the blessings, that are coming out of the deaths of our children,” she said. “This blood, on this patch, seen everywhere ... this represents the way that we have been treated for years.”
     

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Buffalo Joe, @Kylie, @Cryptogenic

    This news story from the St. Louis Metro area has a higher body count but hasn’t gained anywhere near the notoriety that Brown’s case has. No one is protesting the murders of these young black men.

    http://fox2now.com/2016/07/27/mother-asked-relatives-to-kill-witnesses-in-sons-murder-trial-prosecutors-say/

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Kylie

    Why was Latasha Mopkins not included among the Mothers of the Movement honored at the Democratic Convention? Surely an unfortunate oversight.

    Replies: @Kylie

  99. @GW
    @Anonymous


    Why is that more poignant than charging them with not caring about black violence (their own violence) against whites?
     
    Because their entire protest movement is centered around the notion of black lives mattering. Arguing here that whites are victims of black crime doesn't refute their underlying message that black youths are in danger from violent police forces. Pointing out that black youths are 100x more likely to be killed by a fellow black youth than a cop undermines their message, particularly when you add that black activists rarely (i.e. never) protest against black criminality.

    Replies: @NOTA

    What is the actual ratio of probabilities?

    From the Washington Post’s 2015 data, 258 blacks were shot dead by police.

    From the 2014 FBI numbers, 6095 blacks murdered. About 90% of murder arrests for a black victim arrest a black suspect. So about 5485 blacks were murdered by blacks in 2014. So it looks like a good first cut is that police kill blacks about 1/20 as often as black civilians kill other blacks. (This isn’t quite oranges to oranges because it’s 2014 vs 2015 data, and the post’s database only counts shootings, whereas the mirder data is for all methods.)

    • Replies: @bomag
    @NOTA


    From the Washington Post’s 2015 data, 258 blacks were shot dead by police.
     
    It is a bit unfair to toss the raw number out there; what percentage of these were unwarranted? With all the hoopla and attention the past year, we've heard about maybe five or so questionable shootings. With a "perfect" police force in place, what should we expect? 253 instead of 258? If BLM totally gets what they want, they are going to save, what, five lives a year?
  100. Who ever put B in BLM was intent on creating problems not solutions. Police brutality is a fact and a real problem that affects everybody. Blacks are killed at higher rate only because they have higher rate of at-risk police encounters than Whites. There is a good reason why they have more encounters with police. But they are not killed at higher rate per an encounter with police. The problem of police brutality can be solved only if it is not identified as a racial problem.

  101. @NOTA
    @Jefferson

    Do you also think nobody in the US really cares about terrorism unless they're willing to invade and occupy Syria and Iraq? Maybe they're just a lot more interested in safety for black Americans than for black Haitians, Kenyans, etc.

    Replies: @bomag

    …unless they’re willing to invade and occupy Syria and Iraq…

    Okay, I see what you mean, but not quite an apt analogy; there’s scant evidence that our current type of invasions lessen the risk of terrorism.

    However, most anti-terrorism groups are willing to consider all statistics and courses of action. BLM activists are playing a narrative game.

  102. @NOTA
    @Jack D

    Plenty of black kids get murdered in cities like Chicago when they weren't involved in any crime or other bad behavior.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Jack D, @anon

    I wouldn’t say plenty, I would say some. It’s true that it’s hard to aim when you hold your pistol sideways in the approved ghetto fashion and that they often miss and hit innocent bystanders, but I think that in more than a majority of the cases the bullet hits its intended target and said intended target is in some way involved in crime also.

  103. @Kylie
    @Anonymous

    This news story from the St. Louis Metro area has a higher body count but hasn't gained anywhere near the notoriety that Brown's case has. No one is protesting the murders of these young black men.

    http://fox2now.com/2016/07/27/mother-asked-relatives-to-kill-witnesses-in-sons-murder-trial-prosecutors-say/

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Why was Latasha Mopkins not included among the Mothers of the Movement honored at the Democratic Convention? Surely an unfortunate oversight.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Harry Baldwin

    Guessing from Latasha's headshot, I'd say Hillary wanted to avoid a battle of the cankles.

  104. @NOTA
    @GW

    What is the actual ratio of probabilities?

    From the Washington Post's 2015 data, 258 blacks were shot dead by police.

    From the 2014 FBI numbers, 6095 blacks murdered. About 90% of murder arrests for a black victim arrest a black suspect. So about 5485 blacks were murdered by blacks in 2014. So it looks like a good first cut is that police kill blacks about 1/20 as often as black civilians kill other blacks. (This isn't quite oranges to oranges because it's 2014 vs 2015 data, and the post's database only counts shootings, whereas the mirder data is for all methods.)

    Replies: @bomag

    From the Washington Post’s 2015 data, 258 blacks were shot dead by police.

    It is a bit unfair to toss the raw number out there; what percentage of these were unwarranted? With all the hoopla and attention the past year, we’ve heard about maybe five or so questionable shootings. With a “perfect” police force in place, what should we expect? 253 instead of 258? If BLM totally gets what they want, they are going to save, what, five lives a year?

  105. @Anonymous

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/separate-marches-mark-anniversary-of-michael-brown-s-death/article_3c35657f-2550-5295-91de-7d411d4a34b0.html

    Separate marches mark anniversary of Michael Brown's death
    By Stephen Deere St. Louis Post-Dispatch Aug 6, 2016

    FERGUSON • One march was led by his father. The other by his mother. One went to the cemetery where he is buried, the other to a patch of black asphalt where his body lay for more than four hours.

    The processions marked the second anniversary of Michael Brown’s death, which is Tuesday, and attracted mothers and other family members of black people whose names were made famous by horrific circumstances.

    The first, led by Michael Brown Sr., began a little after 8 a.m. in the Canfield Green Apartments complex where a former Ferguson police officer shot the unarmed 18-year-old on Aug. 9, 2014.

    For 2½ hours, about a hundred people marched more than four miles through at least six municipalities to St. Peter’s Cemetery.

    Each mile was supposed symbolize an hour that Brown’s body lay in the street after he was shot. Officers from multiple agencies blocked streets and provided escorts for the march. A helicopter followed from the sky...

    “She would have me sitting at her kitchen sink washing dishes,” Carter said as she followed Michael Brown Sr. down Lucas & Hunt Road. “She would tell me stories about how loving and caring he was and how much of a gentleman he was, and she treated him like the man of the house.”

    Shortly after that march ended, Michael Brown’s mother, Lezley McSpadden, led about 40 people on Canfield Drive to the place where her son was shot...

    “We thank you for the overflow, the blessings, that are coming out of the deaths of our children,” she said. “This blood, on this patch, seen everywhere ... this represents the way that we have been treated for years.”
     

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Buffalo Joe, @Kylie, @Cryptogenic

    My god, the lachrymose mythology of black people is absolutely embarrassing.

  106. @NOTA
    @Luke Lea

    Project Zero (affiliated with BLM) proposes getting more black policemen for black neighborhoods. To the extent the bad relations between black communities and police come down to race, that seems like a prettygood suggestion.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Mr. Anon, @E. Rekshun

    To the extent the bad relations between black communities and police come down to race, that seems like a prettygood suggestion.

    First, the cause of the “bad relations” is predicated on facts not in evidence.

    Second, the solution is’ too. David Simon covered this in both HOMICIDE and THE CORNER: Black cops see themselves as a different class from the hoodrats, regardless of race, and because the racial angle is neutralized, many of the most fierce cops with the worst abuse records are black.

    Witness, in regards to both points, the composition of the defendants in the Freddy Gray affair.

  107. @Harry Baldwin
    @Kylie

    Why was Latasha Mopkins not included among the Mothers of the Movement honored at the Democratic Convention? Surely an unfortunate oversight.

    Replies: @Kylie

    Guessing from Latasha’s headshot, I’d say Hillary wanted to avoid a battle of the cankles.

  108. By the way sumthin’, is the writer in question actually saying that, yes, the likes of BLM are ignoring black on black crime, and thereby proving the charge against them? That others are undertaking efforts in that regard (note no attempt to trumpet actual success, just effort) is irrelevant to the charge leveled.

  109. @David In TN
    @Percy Gryce

    I've just finished the book and am looking forward to a review by Steve.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

    I’ve always been fascinated by the Patty Hearst case and I’ve always been fairly sympathetic towards her. I’ve heard Toobin interviewed, though, and he is surprisingly hard on her. (He also mentions that she’s the only person in U.S. history to have received executive clemency from two different presidents: a commutation from Carter and a full pardon from W.J. Clinton.)

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Percy Gryce

    I was around when it happened. BTW, it wasn't a big shock when Patty, a liberal rich girl, joined her captors.

    I think it was fair to commute her sentence. When you come down to it, what did her wealth and privilege bring her?

    A kidnapping.

    And what if Patty had defied her captors? They would have killed her, as they had already brutally murdered the black Oakland school superintendent, Marcus Foster. The SLA vermin beat up a neighbor during the kidnapping and fired shots which fortunately missed at people who came out to see the commotion.

  110. ….countless grass-roots organizations…are doing remarkable work to prevent and reduce crime.

    No they aren’t, because if they were, crime would be reduced. Currently, violent crime is going back up again. The reductions in crime during the late ’90’s were due to incarceration. Calling efforts that don’t work “remarkable” is what I’ve come to expect from NYT contributors.

  111. @Dave Pinsen
    @Abe

    Corey Booker played college football, which may have had something to do with his choice to go to Stanford. I'd be surprised if he had applied to Harvard and gotten rejected. He is also a Rhodes Scholar and has a law degree from Yale. I wouldn't be so sure he's less intelligent than Obama.

    Both are pretty conventional Democrats (neither has any original political ideas), and both have a "black preacher" rhetorical mode, though Obama carries his off a bit more confidently. The guy who runs the Richard Nixon account on Twitter quipped during the DNC that Booker talks like a black from the suburbs pretending to sound like an urban preacher, or something to that effect.

    The two main differences between Booker and Obama are:

    - Obama ran for president before his act got stale, 4 years after his big speech at the 2004 DNC, and 2 years after getting elected to the US Senate. In contrast, Booker was in Newark long enough for everyone to realize he had no magic (not that Obama would have done any better as mayor of Newark).

    - Booker doesn't have a chip on his shoulder like Obama has due to his Muslim/exotic background. Booker is a conventional, if extremely high-achieving, upper middle class African American (his parents were IBM execs).

    Replies: @Clyde

    Corey (prolly gay) Booker just might end up as VP in months or years All depends if Her Heinous drops out before or after the Nov 2016 election which Trump might win anyways.

  112. @John Chard
    @countenance


    Sure, a few BLM activist claim they don’t ignore garden variety black on black violence, but they certainly don’t get loud about it.
     
    What's amazing is that seemingly no BLM activists have anything to say about high black intraracial violence. All they would have to do is make some token boilerplate statements about how high crime rates are the unfortunate legacy of slavery and what we need is more g̶i̶b̶s̶m̶e̶d̶a̶t̶ investment in education and job training programs, and they'd protect their rhetorical right flank from people like Giuliani much better. Instead, they steadfastly refuse to acknowledge the existence, even in highly coded terms, of black crime.

    Replies: @artichoke

    Their purpose has nothing to do with violence, but with equal outcomes. Demanding more of the pie, more $$$. Like the Flint Michigan mayor, when the lead water contamination story was still hot, not interested in science, not interested in new pipes, all she wanted was for white people to pay her a lot of money.

    • Replies: @Anon7
    @artichoke

    Flint is just the tip of the iceberg. There are hundreds of towns in the U.S. that are slowly drying up due to the removal of manufacturing jobs, and they all have crumbling infrastructure. Flint is distinctive because it has a big black population that can elect this black woman as a spokesperson. She just needs to say "why aren't we being taken care of?" or "why hasn't this been fixed already?"
    and the money just appears.

    Nobody says "Well, I live in such-and-such community, and we keep our water infrastructure up-to-date. Why can't you do the same?" We can't say this because BLM and race victimology.

    And so now, the state of Michigan (i.e., Michigan taxpayers) will pay $100 million for new infrastructure for a city that is 2/3 empty, just like in Detroit. That's why Flint will have the most expensive water bills in the country. It's amazingly stupid. The state should use eminent domain to resettle everyone in Detroit, have full blocks of people instead of 2-3 families per block, and then plow Flint under. It's over.

  113. @GW
    Ok, the most Sailer story of the year has to be the fact the father of the mass murdering Muslim Orlando shooter was spotted--and then interviewed--by an incredulous local reporter.

    Steve, get on it!

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew

    Is the Orlando shooter’s wife still missing?

  114. @Percy Gryce
    @David In TN

    I've always been fascinated by the Patty Hearst case and I've always been fairly sympathetic towards her. I've heard Toobin interviewed, though, and he is surprisingly hard on her. (He also mentions that she's the only person in U.S. history to have received executive clemency from two different presidents: a commutation from Carter and a full pardon from W.J. Clinton.)

    Replies: @David In TN

    I was around when it happened. BTW, it wasn’t a big shock when Patty, a liberal rich girl, joined her captors.

    I think it was fair to commute her sentence. When you come down to it, what did her wealth and privilege bring her?

    A kidnapping.

    And what if Patty had defied her captors? They would have killed her, as they had already brutally murdered the black Oakland school superintendent, Marcus Foster. The SLA vermin beat up a neighbor during the kidnapping and fired shots which fortunately missed at people who came out to see the commotion.

  115. @Jefferson
    @Truth

    "White crime victims are generally victimized by whites."

    True, but Black on White crime is nothing to sneeze at either. It is by far the most common type of interracial crime in America.

    Just do a Google search on Black on White crime and you will see a shitload of examples pop up on legitimate local news sites. You don't have to go to fringe sites like Stormfront to find such examples.

    Youtube also has plenty of examples of Black on White crime.

    Replies: @Blobby5

    Colin Flaherty has tons of great examples on his youtube channel.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    @Blobby5

    I'm amazed his channel hasn't been shut down by now.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/ColinFlaherty712

  116. @Harry Baldwin
    @Anonymous

    The part of the article I found most poignant, most disturbing, was this: "... a former Ferguson police officer..."

    The injustice done to Officer Darren Wilson makes me ashamed of my country and its president. Other than that, there is nothing in this story that I care about.

    Replies: @Auntie Analogue

    “The injustice done to Officer Darren Wilson makes me ashamed of my country and its president. Other than that, there is nothing in this story that I care about.”

    My dear Harry Baldwin, you got to the core of the matter.

    There is now a Michael Brown college fund: a college fund named for the punk cigar store strong-arm thief, for the gun-grabbing attacker of the policeman who was forced from his job and career and for whom no college fund will ever be named.

    Shame is right, shame so profound as to be indescribable.

  117. @Kylie
    @NOTA

    An African-American problem that requires an African-American solution, preferably one that relies on African-American funding.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas

    Tyler Perry stars in Madia Stops Da Murderin’ Up ‘Roun In Here.

    • LOL: Kylie
  118. @yowza
    @Jack D


    Isn’t the time to get excited about crime BEFORE your son is dead? Talk about closing the barn door after the horse is gone.
     
    Which begs the uncomfortable questions for any intrepid journalist which are, how did the dead boy's mom make her living before he died, and how is she making a living since creating her anti-crime group? If she's making money exclusively off her son's death, she's a parasite, and part of the black pathology that white people, and others, ignorantly perpetuate.

    Also, from past experience, I find it VERY hard to believe that any "grass-roots" black anti-crime, or Neighborhood Watch group would be effective in high crime areas due to friends and family members of anyone committing criminal behavior being right up the ass of Neighborhood Watch members the first time they took any action that directly affected the thugs. Thugs have access to the internet, Facebook, etc. They can look up your private information very quickly, and start working on you from there.

    From late night threatening phone calls, bullets entering your living room window, your car being defaced overnight, as well as direct violent physical responses make "neighborhood watch" organizations in black neighborhoods highly problematic, if not impossible.

    The writer of the article doesn't understand that you can't build a society made up of a significant number of operating, functional sociopaths. It doesn't work. To assume sociopaths aren't overrepresented in typical black neighborhoods is starting from a false premise, and all following conclusions will likely be invalid.

    A significant number of blacks lie, cheat, and steal amongst each other. Blacks exploit the weak amongst themselves. Blacks have immediate problems when they're transported, via section 8, to functional neighborhoods, because their pathology is met with immediate resistance by the community and it's police force.

    That's why, in non-black communities, "Black a Block" simply works. Beyond that places any community in peril. Not because of racism. It's a matter of collective pathology.

    Until poor Lisa Miller acknowledges these facts, her essays will remain unintentionally comedic. At best.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Also, from past experience, I find it VERY hard to believe that any “grass-roots” black anti-crime, or Neighborhood Watch group would be effective in high crime areas due to friends and family members of anyone committing criminal behavior being right up the ass of Neighborhood Watch members the first time they took any action that directly affected the thugs. Thugs have access to the internet, Facebook, etc. They can look up your private information very quickly, and start working on you from there.

    This is good stuff PDG.

    The writer of the article doesn’t understand that you can’t build a society made up of a significant number of operating, functional sociopaths. It doesn’t work.

    And with this, you’re hitting the nail on the head.

    Having a functional civilization requires people who *in the mass* both want and demand civilization. Most blacks would sorta, kinda “like” to have their neighborhoods be more civilized. But they do not *demand* it, do not have the social\community cohesiveness to rout the criminals and thugs and their enablers. A large part of this is, of course, because they are feminized communities and lack enough males with a stake, with a civilizing interest–as opposed to males with a de-civilizing interest–to lay down the law and enforce civilized norms.

    Of course, sadly our white communities and nations are trending this way too. Feminization, is leaving us with nations that can be overrun with invading garbage without the males rising up and putting a stop to it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad

    Experiments with trees has shown that a seed thrives best when planted in soil gathered from the area around the base of its genetically-maternal tree.

    Black neighborhoods are the proverbial maternal soil in which black boys are incubated. In this violent environment, they are optimized for survival. They fare poorly when transplanted into strange, peaceful, cooperative environments for which they are completely maladapted. Hence the crime, rage, projected blame etc.

    Black women voluntarily and with full consent and intent, create the environment in which they raise their brood.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  119. From BLM: “We…. Demand a thorough and accurate public education curriculum on Black History, including not only slavery and civil rights, but also contributions of African and African American heritage at the local, national and global level. ”

    Do they really want a thorough and accurate public education curriculum on Black History? You know, one that would include the fact that blacks were sold into slavery by other blacks; that in an even-handed curriculum, that the black contributions students currently are told about get far more ‘air time’ than what they actually meant to America and the world; that the huge burden blacks put on the rest of America is ignored in current history texts, etc..In other words, if they want reality, they want a textbook more like one from pre-civil rights era America. I’m guessing…no.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Grandpa Jack

    "From BLM: 'We…. Demand a thorough and accurate public education curriculum on Black History, including not only slavery and civil rights, but also contributions of African and African American heritage at the local, national and global level. '”

    Oh, no. "We wuz kings", swarthy Beethoven, Elvis stole the blues, peanut butter and Supersoakers forever.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @ogunsiron

  120. Facts and reality mean nothing to progressives. It’s the narrative and the attempt that is important. Sometimes the facts are such that some folks do notice. This really irritates progressives/race identity politcos, there response was to create the faux science of White Privilege, unconscious bias and activism being more important than the dead body down the street.

  121. @Blobby5
    @Jefferson

    Colin Flaherty has tons of great examples on his youtube channel.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

    I’m amazed his channel hasn’t been shut down by now.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/ColinFlaherty712

  122. @Anonymous
    @ogunsiron

    I imagine that just like BDS and most of the anti-zionist left, they hate israel because they think of israelis as a bunch of Poles and Russians (ie, white people) who don’t belong on brown land.

    What they think of Israelis then is mostly accurate. Most Jewish Israelis have no business being in Palestine. Israel is a manifestation of White supremacism.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Roughly half of Israeli Jews are brown people who were expelled from Arab lands.

    By the same logic, white (and black) people have no business in America either. Jewish claims to Palestine go back almost 3,000 years. White people just showed up in America and had ZERO prior claim.

    When my father was a kid in Poland, he would get taunted with cries of “Jews to Palestine” (and that was before the Germans showed up and things got REALLY bad). Now Jews are being told “Jews out of Palestine”. One might get the idea that there are people who really would prefer that there be no Jews anywhere. This is the kind of logic that leads to the Final Solution.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Jack D

    "Roughly half of Israeli Jews are brown people"

    You think 50 percent of Israelis can not physically pass for White in The United States?

    Than the percentage of people in Lebanon and Syria who can not physically pass for White in The U.S must be even higher than 50 percent, since on average they are darker than Israelis.

    , @iSteveFan
    @Jack D


    By the same logic, white (and black) people have no business in America either. Jewish claims to Palestine go back almost 3,000 years. White people just showed up in America and had ZERO prior claim.
     
    Don't whites pretty much admit they came, conquered and colonized somebody else's land? Do Israeli Jews admit the same?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @anon
    @Jack D

    Your attempts to compare and conflate Israel and America are very lame. Very different scenarios and histories sport.

  123. @Whiskey
    IMHO White people have a moral and more importantly, a fiscal duty to lecture Black at every turn about the failings of the Black community as a whole.

    The Black underclass engaging in constant, tribal violence so that the baddest warrior can brag/boast of the most coup-counting ultraviolence and impregnate the hottest women; like Clockwork Orange only with Black people. And the Black elite not demanding the Black underclass cease violence as a way of demonstrating masculine attractiveness. As much as we as White people need to lecture Tookie types, on the unacceptable violence and inevitable White consequences that White will deal out eventually; we also need to lecture Michelle Obama and Barack on their culpability of being "Hitler's Willing Executioners" by enabling massive and constant violence in the Black Underclass.

    Black people elite and underclass alike need to be told in no uncertain terms that the ordinary White taxpayer will reach a sudden breaking point and stop this. If need be by restricting rights, actions, and everything else based on race and ethnicity since the idea of citizenship and non-racial rules has already been shredded; and all that remains is White restraint and White elite rule; both shaky and questionable.

    The biggest issue is fiscal. All the money that murders cost (roughly $17 million Slate notwithstanding) comes out of White taxpaying pockets. Add in the aggregate effect of constant violence making Black underclass areas a massively dependent tax hole, requiring White tax dollar subsidies instead of GENERATING TAX REVENUE and Whites ...

    ARE PAYING FOR BLACK VIOLENCE. And again, Black violence is pretty much 90% at least aimed at producing sexy killers for Black women who desire said thugs. Rap Music is a giant minstrel show of thug-ism parading around for Black women who desire the most ultraviolent as an expression of dominance.

    IMHO Whites particularly working class / middle class Whites who pay for all of this should demand Black women stop acting "stupid and slutty" and that Black underclass people instead demonstrate dominance by mastery. A Black underclass ghetto kid may not have it in him to be the next Silicon Valley whiz, he can certainly be a master cake decorator. Or sous chef. No one would accuse Gordon Ramsey of being a genius; surely there are many Black underclass men who can achieve a lesser mastery of culinary, woodworking, bicycle repair, or other craft skills.

    Mastery demonstrates its own social dominance, and unlike street violence lasts far beyond one's twenties.

    But, and I am totally serious, White middle/working class taxpayers (elites avoid taxes like Hillary! any prosecution for security violations) need to be assertive and stop tolerating Black underclass free riding and Black elite "Hitler enabling" (and we need to be as hard/offensive as possible to break through Black elite piteous self regard) a constant grind of violence that is becoming rapidly unaffordable.

    Bonus points -- show Black elites that the demands of money to take in refugees from around the world means they'll have to give up not only free-riding on White taxpayer money but their social position as refugees need it more.

    No more walking on eggshells, avoiding the subject, groveling. Black murders are a free-ride on the White taxpayer so some thug can have sex.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @bomag, @Gross Terry

    White people have a moral and more importantly, a fiscal duty to lecture Black at every turn about the failings of the Black community

    Right – that will be a productive use of time! Get off the opiates if you are on them. Try meditation and hard liquor if you are not.

  124. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    Roughly half of Israeli Jews are brown people who were expelled from Arab lands.

    By the same logic, white (and black) people have no business in America either. Jewish claims to Palestine go back almost 3,000 years. White people just showed up in America and had ZERO prior claim.

    When my father was a kid in Poland, he would get taunted with cries of "Jews to Palestine" (and that was before the Germans showed up and things got REALLY bad). Now Jews are being told "Jews out of Palestine". One might get the idea that there are people who really would prefer that there be no Jews anywhere. This is the kind of logic that leads to the Final Solution.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @iSteveFan, @anon

    “Roughly half of Israeli Jews are brown people”

    You think 50 percent of Israelis can not physically pass for White in The United States?

    Than the percentage of people in Lebanon and Syria who can not physically pass for White in The U.S must be even higher than 50 percent, since on average they are darker than Israelis.

  125. @Grandpa Jack
    From BLM: "We.... Demand a thorough and accurate public education curriculum on Black History, including not only slavery and civil rights, but also contributions of African and African American heritage at the local, national and global level. "

    Do they really want a thorough and accurate public education curriculum on Black History? You know, one that would include the fact that blacks were sold into slavery by other blacks; that in an even-handed curriculum, that the black contributions students currently are told about get far more 'air time' than what they actually meant to America and the world; that the huge burden blacks put on the rest of America is ignored in current history texts, etc..In other words, if they want reality, they want a textbook more like one from pre-civil rights era America. I'm guessing...no.

    Replies: @Kylie

    “From BLM: ‘We…. Demand a thorough and accurate public education curriculum on Black History, including not only slavery and civil rights, but also contributions of African and African American heritage at the local, national and global level. ‘”

    Oh, no. “We wuz kings”, swarthy Beethoven, Elvis stole the blues, peanut butter and Supersoakers forever.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Kylie

    "Oh, no. “We wuz kings”, swarthy Beethoven, Elvis stole the blues, peanut butter and Supersoakers forever."

    It's kangs not kings. Crazy Afrocentrics contradict themselves in that they claim Elvis Presley stole Negro music, while at the time believing he was a secret Negro passing for White, even though both of his parents looked physically White.

    White passing so-called "Negroes" always had at least 1 parent who obviously didn't look White. They never had 2 White looking parents. That is why the ones who passed full time always had to cut ties with their parents. They can't be seen associating in public with their Mulatto looking mother or father.

    , @ogunsiron
    @Kylie

    Oh, no. “We wuz kings”,
    ---
    it's "we waz kaaangz and sheeit", actually.

    Replies: @Jefferson

  126. “Blacks Activists”

    Was the apparently superfluous “s” merely a typo?

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @Dissident

    Maybe they're New Zealand rugby fans?

  127. @ogunsiron
    @Anonymous

    I imagine that just like BDS and most of the anti-zionist left, they hate israel because they think of israelis as a bunch of Poles and Russians (ie, white people) who don't belong on brown land.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anon, @Joe Franklin

    Anti-Zion leftist dislike Israeli neocon fascism, don’t hate Israeli Jews.

    Leftist in the US are the equivalent of secular Judaism in Israel.

    Neocons in the US are the equivalent of conservative Judaism in Israel.

  128. @WorkingClass
    I live in a majority black city in the deep south. It may surprise some without first hand knowledge that adult people in "the hood" don't want their neighborhood ruled by thugs. BLM has nothing to do with it. BLM is an unwitting tool of the establishment, used to sow anger and strife in the society at large. The same establishment that will not prosecute blue crime. It's called divide and conquer. If you want race war, whether you are black or white, you are a tool.

    Replies: @dr kill, @Mr. Anon

    Dude, no one here is surprised.

  129. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    @yowza


    Also, from past experience, I find it VERY hard to believe that any “grass-roots” black anti-crime, or Neighborhood Watch group would be effective in high crime areas due to friends and family members of anyone committing criminal behavior being right up the ass of Neighborhood Watch members the first time they took any action that directly affected the thugs. Thugs have access to the internet, Facebook, etc. They can look up your private information very quickly, and start working on you from there.
     
    This is good stuff PDG.

    The writer of the article doesn’t understand that you can’t build a society made up of a significant number of operating, functional sociopaths. It doesn’t work.
     
    And with this, you're hitting the nail on the head.

    Having a functional civilization requires people who *in the mass* both want and demand civilization. Most blacks would sorta, kinda "like" to have their neighborhoods be more civilized. But they do not *demand* it, do not have the social\community cohesiveness to rout the criminals and thugs and their enablers. A large part of this is, of course, because they are feminized communities and lack enough males with a stake, with a civilizing interest--as opposed to males with a de-civilizing interest--to lay down the law and enforce civilized norms.

    Of course, sadly our white communities and nations are trending this way too. Feminization, is leaving us with nations that can be overrun with invading garbage without the males rising up and putting a stop to it.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Experiments with trees has shown that a seed thrives best when planted in soil gathered from the area around the base of its genetically-maternal tree.

    Black neighborhoods are the proverbial maternal soil in which black boys are incubated. In this violent environment, they are optimized for survival. They fare poorly when transplanted into strange, peaceful, cooperative environments for which they are completely maladapted. Hence the crime, rage, projected blame etc.

    Black women voluntarily and with full consent and intent, create the environment in which they raise their brood.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Link to journal supporting above claim.

    http://www2.nau.edu/~shuster/isopod/Pubs/Smith%20et%20al%20Plant%20Soil%20doi.pdf

  130. @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad

    Experiments with trees has shown that a seed thrives best when planted in soil gathered from the area around the base of its genetically-maternal tree.

    Black neighborhoods are the proverbial maternal soil in which black boys are incubated. In this violent environment, they are optimized for survival. They fare poorly when transplanted into strange, peaceful, cooperative environments for which they are completely maladapted. Hence the crime, rage, projected blame etc.

    Black women voluntarily and with full consent and intent, create the environment in which they raise their brood.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  131. @Truth
    @Jefferson

    And whatever this genius says, must be noted...

    Replies: @G Pinfold, @MEH 0910, @Hunsdon, @Grandpa Jack, @anon

    “And whatever this genius says, must be noted…”

    If Barkley were proposing a grand unifying theory about race in America, you’d have a point. But simply stating what he’d observed, that he’d seen blacks killed by other blacks and not by whites, that’s just observation, something even a CCTV camera could do (and if they could talk, probably quite a few would say what Barkley did).

  132. @Anonymous
    @GW

    Back up and understand the context of the situation. Pointing out that the most dangerous thing to a black person isn’t the cops but fellow blacks isn’t done to cuck for blacks, but rather expose the phonyness of the black activists and white liberals who claim to care about black lives.

    Why is that more poignant than charging them with not caring about black violence (their own violence) against whites? Or even with perpetrating, as a community, that violence? Or with responsibility for high rates of criminality generally (which would partly explain the frequency of incidents with the police)?

    In any case, within the parameters of your frame, surely a distinction can be made between state-sanctioned violence against a group (violence by police against blacks) and violence by individual citizens against other citizens. So it isn't necessarily hypocrisy to protest one and not the other.

    Replies: @GW, @Joe Schmoe, @anon

    surely a distinction can be made between state-sanctioned violence against a group (violence by police against blacks) and violence by individual citizens against other citizens. So it isn’t necessarily hypocrisy to protest one and not the other.

    Okay.

    However, it is hypocrisy when the white liberal media ignores blacks who speak out against violence in the hood.

    Surely you noticed that anti war protesters just stopped appearing on TV and in the media as soon as Obama was elected. Those of us who saw protesters greeting Obama and the TV cameras at his local appearances noticed that none of them made it even onto the local coverage, but they were covered when Bush was in office.

    The media are liars.

    • Agree: NOTA
  133. Another point about Jeffrey Toobin’s Patty Hearst book. In a couple of interviews, Toobin has said “I didn’t know anything about the zebra killings” prior to doing research about the Bay area of the period.

    Jeffrey Toobin is 56, a Harvard Law graduate, a former federal prosecutor, and a supposed expert on legal issues, crime, and trials. And he had never heard of the Zebra Black Muslims killings in San Francisco?

    • Agree: Percy Gryce
    • Replies: @anon
    @David In TN

    Not so surprising. People tend to hear about the things that they want to hear about.

    , @Percy Gryce
    @David In TN

    Quite right. That book is so packed with info that I had already forgotten that. But, given that the Zebra killers were not the subject of the book, I thought he did them justice (so to speak), in his short synopsis.

  134. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth
    @Anonymous


    What about black crime in general, especially black-on-White and black-on-Oriental crime. That is what we should be marching against.

     

    White crime victims are generally victimized by whites.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jefferson, @Lot, @Yak-15, @Erik Sieven, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon

    I think it is quite fair to say that for every black who is a victim of violent crime by a white, far more whites are victims of violent black crime.

    How many black women are raped by a white man?
    How many white women are raped by a black men?

    Ditto for murder and violent assaults.

  135. @Truth
    @Jefferson

    And whatever this genius says, must be noted...

    Replies: @G Pinfold, @MEH 0910, @Hunsdon, @Grandpa Jack, @anon

    Kind of like you, huh TRUTH? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!. No pun intended.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @anon

    “Kind of like you, huh TRUTH? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!. No pun intended.”

    “Truth” thinks there are cars that use water as a fuel. That should give some indication of how valuable his opinion is generally.

  136. @Jack D

    grass-roots organizations — many of which were founded by bereaved black women — are doing remarkable work to prevent and reduce crime.
     
    Isn't the time to get excited about crime BEFORE your son is dead? Talk about closing the barn door after the horse is gone.

    These organizations may gather up some government grants but they do nothing to actually reduce crime. A REAL grass roots organization would involve young black men and their (in reality almost always absent) fathers, not their grieving mamas who were powerless over their gentle giants in the first place.

    Replies: @ogunsiron, @Tim, @yowza, @NOTA, @anon, @Brutusale

    What EXACTLY is this “remarkable work” to prevent and reduce crime? Specifics? Details? Sources? Statistics? Something to back up this claim of “remarkable work”? Anything?

  137. @Dissident
    "Blacks Activists"

    Was the apparently superfluous "s" merely a typo?

    Replies: @Ivy

    Maybe they’re New Zealand rugby fans?

  138. iSteveFan says:
    @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    Roughly half of Israeli Jews are brown people who were expelled from Arab lands.

    By the same logic, white (and black) people have no business in America either. Jewish claims to Palestine go back almost 3,000 years. White people just showed up in America and had ZERO prior claim.

    When my father was a kid in Poland, he would get taunted with cries of "Jews to Palestine" (and that was before the Germans showed up and things got REALLY bad). Now Jews are being told "Jews out of Palestine". One might get the idea that there are people who really would prefer that there be no Jews anywhere. This is the kind of logic that leads to the Final Solution.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @iSteveFan, @anon

    By the same logic, white (and black) people have no business in America either. Jewish claims to Palestine go back almost 3,000 years. White people just showed up in America and had ZERO prior claim.

    Don’t whites pretty much admit they came, conquered and colonized somebody else’s land? Do Israeli Jews admit the same?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @iSteveFan


    Do Israeli Jews admit the same?
     
    Yes. In what we call "the Old Testament".
  139. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @NOTA
    @Jack D

    Plenty of black kids get murdered in cities like Chicago when they weren't involved in any crime or other bad behavior.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Jack D, @anon

    Okay. But who exactly is killing these black kids who are not into crime or bad behaviour? If you could show say, that it is largely Finnish immigrants doing the killings, then we could solve the problem by just ending immigration from Finland for example. If it is largely blacks doing the killing, then we are right back at the black community as the cause of, and the only possible answer to, this problem.

    • Replies: @NOTA
    @anon

    All the available data points to an overwhelming majority of black murder victims being murdered by blacks. So it's the black community that's killing most of the blacks who get killed. But probably the great majority of victims weren't doing anything wrong when they got killed.

  140. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    Roughly half of Israeli Jews are brown people who were expelled from Arab lands.

    By the same logic, white (and black) people have no business in America either. Jewish claims to Palestine go back almost 3,000 years. White people just showed up in America and had ZERO prior claim.

    When my father was a kid in Poland, he would get taunted with cries of "Jews to Palestine" (and that was before the Germans showed up and things got REALLY bad). Now Jews are being told "Jews out of Palestine". One might get the idea that there are people who really would prefer that there be no Jews anywhere. This is the kind of logic that leads to the Final Solution.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @iSteveFan, @anon

    Your attempts to compare and conflate Israel and America are very lame. Very different scenarios and histories sport.

  141. Apropos:
    From Manhattan’s Upper West Side (a bastion of Goodwhite, SJW sanctimony):
    http://www.westsiderag.com/2016/08/08/attack-that-started-on-1-train-may-be-anti-gay-hate-crime-police-say

    State Assemblyperson* Daniel O’Donnell issues statement after alleged “Anti-Gay ‘hate crime”, in which he writes,

    “This incident happened close to home for me, but across the country, divisive and hateful rhetoric is inspiring violence in a very dangerous way. I am recommitting myself to promoting a campaign called ‘#StopTheHate’, which focuses on discouraging hate speech and putting a stop to hate violence.”

    One has to wonder, what is the Honorable Assemblyperson* talking about? What “violence” “across the country”? (“in a very dangerous way”, no less)

    *At the time of this posting, the UWS news blog where the above-linked article appears actually has, “State assemblyman Daniel O’Donnell”. “Assemblyman“!

  142. @Truth
    @Anonymous


    What about black crime in general, especially black-on-White and black-on-Oriental crime. That is what we should be marching against.

     

    White crime victims are generally victimized by whites.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jefferson, @Lot, @Yak-15, @Erik Sieven, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon

    White crime victims are generally victimized by whites

    So you believe Mrs Broaddrick too. I’m not alone here!

    Problem is, she accused the wrong Bill C. Had she fingered the black one, “journalists” would beat down her door.

  143. @David In TN
    Another point about Jeffrey Toobin's Patty Hearst book. In a couple of interviews, Toobin has said "I didn't know anything about the zebra killings" prior to doing research about the Bay area of the period.

    Jeffrey Toobin is 56, a Harvard Law graduate, a former federal prosecutor, and a supposed expert on legal issues, crime, and trials. And he had never heard of the Zebra Black Muslims killings in San Francisco?

    Replies: @anon, @Percy Gryce

    Not so surprising. People tend to hear about the things that they want to hear about.

  144. @iSteveFan
    @Jack D


    By the same logic, white (and black) people have no business in America either. Jewish claims to Palestine go back almost 3,000 years. White people just showed up in America and had ZERO prior claim.
     
    Don't whites pretty much admit they came, conquered and colonized somebody else's land? Do Israeli Jews admit the same?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Do Israeli Jews admit the same?

    Yes. In what we call “the Old Testament”.

    • Agree: Dave Pinsen
  145. Claims like Mr. Giuliani’s aren’t just offensive or misplaced — they’re demonstrably wrong..

    Then there are paragraphs of bla bla bla bla but it is never demonstrated that “the way in which the vast majority of blacks are killed in America, which is by other blacks” is wrong. Because it’s not.

  146. @Truth
    @Anonymous


    What about black crime in general, especially black-on-White and black-on-Oriental crime. That is what we should be marching against.

     

    White crime victims are generally victimized by whites.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jefferson, @Lot, @Yak-15, @Erik Sieven, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon

    “White crime victims are generally victimized by whites.”

    This is the customary snake-oil from “Truth”, who is mathematically illiterate. He doesn’t understand fractions. The denominator is everybit as important as the numerator.

    He would have you believe that because you are more likely to die in a traffic accident than from a fall or a lighting strike, that you should be unconcerned by dodgy ladders and that you should go ahead and go golfing during a thunderstorm. Actually, it is the fact that so many whites know how dangerous blacks can be, and consequently avoid them to a large extent (whether or not they admit it) that prevents black-on-white crime from being more common than it is.

    Moreover, stranger-crime is disproportionately inter-racial, and stranger crime is the kind of crime that tends to be random and is harder to avoid through prudence (i.e., by not associating with low-lifes).

  147. @WorkingClass
    I live in a majority black city in the deep south. It may surprise some without first hand knowledge that adult people in "the hood" don't want their neighborhood ruled by thugs. BLM has nothing to do with it. BLM is an unwitting tool of the establishment, used to sow anger and strife in the society at large. The same establishment that will not prosecute blue crime. It's called divide and conquer. If you want race war, whether you are black or white, you are a tool.

    Replies: @dr kill, @Mr. Anon

    “It may surprise some without first hand knowledge that adult people in “the hood” don’t want their neighborhood ruled by thugs.”

    And yet, they consistently support politicians and policies that help to make that possible.

  148. @NOTA
    @Luke Lea

    Project Zero (affiliated with BLM) proposes getting more black policemen for black neighborhoods. To the extent the bad relations between black communities and police come down to race, that seems like a prettygood suggestion.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Mr. Anon, @E. Rekshun

    “Project Zero (affiliated with BLM) proposes getting more black policemen for black neighborhoods. To the extent the bad relations between black communities and police come down to race, that seems like a prettygood suggestion.”

    How about only black police officers for black neighborhoods and only white officers for white neighborhoods?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Mr. Anon

    If a black person commits a crime in a predominantly white neighborhood, an officer of which race should respond? Do we have to wait until a black officer is available? For purposes of policing, would you consider Manhattan a white neighborhood, with only white policemen allowed to operate there? Since Asians commit only a small percentage of crime, should Asian police officers no longer be hired? Who should respond to crime in the Hispanic neighborhood? (There are black Hispanics and, as we now know, white Hispanics as well.) The implementation of this plan bewilders me.

  149. @Jefferson
    I think it was Charles Barkley who said in his personal life he knows Black people who were murdered by other Blacks, but does not personally know a single Black who was murdered by a White person.

    Replies: @Truth, @Mr. Anon

    “There is nothing more painful for me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery—[and] then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”

    – Jesse Jackson, 1993

  150. @anonymous
    People at the grass roots organize themselves against crime and the results are what? There's been endless anti-violence marches in Chicago that garner media time but which do nothing. Only the police are in a position to act on it. In the white areas it usually boils down to lobbying for more police being assigned there. The black groups, often led by reverends, usually try to hit the holy grail of organizing which hopefully will culminate in a government grant and money contributed by goodwhites; send mo' money. Meanwhile, seven dead and eleven wounded just on Monday in Chicago. The organizers and activists don't seem to have been very effective in preventing anything. Perhaps Miller could "study" that and get back to us on why they are so lame.

    Replies: @anon

    Only the police are in a position to act on it.

    No, only the filthy lying media are in a position to act on it – public policy is paralyzed by them.

  151. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @AndrewR
    Fundamentally, we have to recognize BLM as a black supremacist, semi-terrorist organization. There really is no getting around this. Then, given the tacit and overt support given BLM by media and political elites, among others, we have to acknowledge that this country is simply not ours anymore. Where do we go from here?

    Replies: @anon

    we have to acknowledge that this country is simply not ours anymore. Where do we go from here?

    This is true but largely true only because most people don’t realize it it’s true. The media can manipulate people with its filtered reality in proportion to how much the media is a trusted source of information so if the hold of the media changes then the balance changes dramatically.

    Secondly and critically on this particular issue, the current situation is not in anyone’s interests – not even the people doing it really – none of the minority groups, including black people, benefit from black crime being ignored – the other racial groups are blocked from doing anything about it by the way whites are manipulated by the media.

    The only people who think ignoring black crime is in their interests are the people who think keeping whites in a guilt-based mental head lock benefits them – aka the media – so basically the entire country of 300 million have a massive and entirely fixable social problem responsible for huge amounts of bloodshed because of the media.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @anon


    the current situation is not in anyone’s interests
     
    Think again.
  152. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @GW

    Back up and understand the context of the situation. Pointing out that the most dangerous thing to a black person isn’t the cops but fellow blacks isn’t done to cuck for blacks, but rather expose the phonyness of the black activists and white liberals who claim to care about black lives.

    Why is that more poignant than charging them with not caring about black violence (their own violence) against whites? Or even with perpetrating, as a community, that violence? Or with responsibility for high rates of criminality generally (which would partly explain the frequency of incidents with the police)?

    In any case, within the parameters of your frame, surely a distinction can be made between state-sanctioned violence against a group (violence by police against blacks) and violence by individual citizens against other citizens. So it isn't necessarily hypocrisy to protest one and not the other.

    Replies: @GW, @Joe Schmoe, @anon

    Judo

    1) The media has a huge amount of force behind it

    2) The media want to incite racial conflict for the election

    ergo they use that force to hype BLM.

    So the media’s own power makes BLM a big issue in people’s minds – including the literal meaning of the actual words – and then you flip it.

  153. @anon
    @ogunsiron

    why then do they not care about the indonesian occupation of papua. the occupiers (indonesians) are much lighter than the opressed papuans. in addition indonesia has killed 478,000 more papuans in their occupation than israel has in theirs.

    Replies: @anon, @ogunsiron

    The media doesn’t report it because…

    it would mess up their anti-white narrative.

  154. @Erik Sieven
    @Truth

    I wonder which percentage of European and Asian Americans was ever beaten up or intimidated over a longer period by black people in High School. When it comes to violence, one should not only talk about homicides. It is those years in school as children and teenagers, which shape the perception of the world.
    Obviously a lot of white / asian people have this deep fear, and because of that admiration of black people. They fear them so much that they do not even dare to admit they fear them. Maybe this is because of those experiences in school.

    Replies: @anon

    normal black people are scared of black psychos too

    they’re scared of white psychos as well

    the only people not scared of psychos are psychos

    the only difference is the percentage of psychos varies between population groups

  155. Dirk Dagger [AKA "That\'s Not Who We Are"] says:

    OT: From the most important city in the U.S.A.

    AP — FERGUSON, Mo. — Gunshots rang out after a car struck a protester during a demonstration in Ferguson, Missouri, on the second anniversary of Michael Brown’s death, disrupting what had been a peaceful gathering but apparently striking no one.

    Witnesses told The Associated Press that a car drove through a group of protesters who were blocking a street during the demonstration Tuesday night marking two years since the unarmed black 18-year-old’s fatal shooting by a white police officer. They said the car struck a young man so hard that he flew into the air.

    “A lady came down and hit a protester — knocked the shoes off his feet,” said Sharon Cowan, who was at the scene. “Hit him, and he rolled and he bounced.”

    Graphic video provided to AP by Heather De Mian, who was at the scene and frequently livestreams protests in the St. Louis area, appeared to corroborate the witnesses’ account, showing a man hit and thrown several feet as others nearby shriek.

    The man seemed badly injured and was put into a private car to be taken to a hospital, Cowan said.

    Shots can be heard on the video less than a minute after the collision. Some witnesses said protesters were firing at the vehicle, which a city spokesman later said was found to have bullet holes.

    Spokesman Jeff Small told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch police don’t believe the driver intentionally struck the protester.

    Just me or is this blocking the street thing is getting stale?

  156. @David In TN
    Another point about Jeffrey Toobin's Patty Hearst book. In a couple of interviews, Toobin has said "I didn't know anything about the zebra killings" prior to doing research about the Bay area of the period.

    Jeffrey Toobin is 56, a Harvard Law graduate, a former federal prosecutor, and a supposed expert on legal issues, crime, and trials. And he had never heard of the Zebra Black Muslims killings in San Francisco?

    Replies: @anon, @Percy Gryce

    Quite right. That book is so packed with info that I had already forgotten that. But, given that the Zebra killers were not the subject of the book, I thought he did them justice (so to speak), in his short synopsis.

  157. @anon
    @AndrewR


    we have to acknowledge that this country is simply not ours anymore. Where do we go from here?
     
    This is true but largely true only because most people don't realize it it's true. The media can manipulate people with its filtered reality in proportion to how much the media is a trusted source of information so if the hold of the media changes then the balance changes dramatically.

    Secondly and critically on this particular issue, the current situation is not in anyone's interests - not even the people doing it really - none of the minority groups, including black people, benefit from black crime being ignored - the other racial groups are blocked from doing anything about it by the way whites are manipulated by the media.

    The only people who think ignoring black crime is in their interests are the people who think keeping whites in a guilt-based mental head lock benefits them - aka the media - so basically the entire country of 300 million have a massive and entirely fixable social problem responsible for huge amounts of bloodshed because of the media.

    Replies: @bomag

    the current situation is not in anyone’s interests

    Think again.

  158. @Whiskey
    IMHO White people have a moral and more importantly, a fiscal duty to lecture Black at every turn about the failings of the Black community as a whole.

    The Black underclass engaging in constant, tribal violence so that the baddest warrior can brag/boast of the most coup-counting ultraviolence and impregnate the hottest women; like Clockwork Orange only with Black people. And the Black elite not demanding the Black underclass cease violence as a way of demonstrating masculine attractiveness. As much as we as White people need to lecture Tookie types, on the unacceptable violence and inevitable White consequences that White will deal out eventually; we also need to lecture Michelle Obama and Barack on their culpability of being "Hitler's Willing Executioners" by enabling massive and constant violence in the Black Underclass.

    Black people elite and underclass alike need to be told in no uncertain terms that the ordinary White taxpayer will reach a sudden breaking point and stop this. If need be by restricting rights, actions, and everything else based on race and ethnicity since the idea of citizenship and non-racial rules has already been shredded; and all that remains is White restraint and White elite rule; both shaky and questionable.

    The biggest issue is fiscal. All the money that murders cost (roughly $17 million Slate notwithstanding) comes out of White taxpaying pockets. Add in the aggregate effect of constant violence making Black underclass areas a massively dependent tax hole, requiring White tax dollar subsidies instead of GENERATING TAX REVENUE and Whites ...

    ARE PAYING FOR BLACK VIOLENCE. And again, Black violence is pretty much 90% at least aimed at producing sexy killers for Black women who desire said thugs. Rap Music is a giant minstrel show of thug-ism parading around for Black women who desire the most ultraviolent as an expression of dominance.

    IMHO Whites particularly working class / middle class Whites who pay for all of this should demand Black women stop acting "stupid and slutty" and that Black underclass people instead demonstrate dominance by mastery. A Black underclass ghetto kid may not have it in him to be the next Silicon Valley whiz, he can certainly be a master cake decorator. Or sous chef. No one would accuse Gordon Ramsey of being a genius; surely there are many Black underclass men who can achieve a lesser mastery of culinary, woodworking, bicycle repair, or other craft skills.

    Mastery demonstrates its own social dominance, and unlike street violence lasts far beyond one's twenties.

    But, and I am totally serious, White middle/working class taxpayers (elites avoid taxes like Hillary! any prosecution for security violations) need to be assertive and stop tolerating Black underclass free riding and Black elite "Hitler enabling" (and we need to be as hard/offensive as possible to break through Black elite piteous self regard) a constant grind of violence that is becoming rapidly unaffordable.

    Bonus points -- show Black elites that the demands of money to take in refugees from around the world means they'll have to give up not only free-riding on White taxpayer money but their social position as refugees need it more.

    No more walking on eggshells, avoiding the subject, groveling. Black murders are a free-ride on the White taxpayer so some thug can have sex.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @bomag, @Gross Terry

    the current situation is not in anyone’s interests

    Blacks like the current situation just fine. You are not going to talk anyone out of their support. YT is happy to pay and march in the street with BLM. We’re up against social erosion and the reversion to more primal existence.

  159. “White crime victims are generally victimized by whites.”

    This is the customary snake-oil from “Truth”, who is mathematically illiterate. He doesn’t understand fractions. The denominator is everybit as important as the numerator.

    He would have you believe that because you are more likely to die in a traffic accident than from a fall or a lighting strike, that you should be unconcerned by dodgy ladders and that you should go ahead and go golfing during a thunderstorm. Actually, it is the fact that so many whites know how dangerous blacks can be, and consequently avoid them to a large extent (whether or not they admit it) that prevents black-on-white crime from being more common than it is.

    Moreover, stranger-crime is disproportionately inter-racial, and stranger crime is the kind of crime that tends to be random and is harder to avoid through prudence (i.e., by not associating with low-lifes).

  160. @anon
    @Truth

    Kind of like you, huh TRUTH? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!. No pun intended.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    “Kind of like you, huh TRUTH? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!. No pun intended.”

    “Truth” thinks there are cars that use water as a fuel. That should give some indication of how valuable his opinion is generally.

  161. @Mr. Anon
    @NOTA

    "Project Zero (affiliated with BLM) proposes getting more black policemen for black neighborhoods. To the extent the bad relations between black communities and police come down to race, that seems like a prettygood suggestion."

    How about only black police officers for black neighborhoods and only white officers for white neighborhoods?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    If a black person commits a crime in a predominantly white neighborhood, an officer of which race should respond? Do we have to wait until a black officer is available? For purposes of policing, would you consider Manhattan a white neighborhood, with only white policemen allowed to operate there? Since Asians commit only a small percentage of crime, should Asian police officers no longer be hired? Who should respond to crime in the Hispanic neighborhood? (There are black Hispanics and, as we now know, white Hispanics as well.) The implementation of this plan bewilders me.

  162. @artichoke
    @John Chard

    Their purpose has nothing to do with violence, but with equal outcomes. Demanding more of the pie, more $$$. Like the Flint Michigan mayor, when the lead water contamination story was still hot, not interested in science, not interested in new pipes, all she wanted was for white people to pay her a lot of money.

    Replies: @Anon7

    Flint is just the tip of the iceberg. There are hundreds of towns in the U.S. that are slowly drying up due to the removal of manufacturing jobs, and they all have crumbling infrastructure. Flint is distinctive because it has a big black population that can elect this black woman as a spokesperson. She just needs to say “why aren’t we being taken care of?” or “why hasn’t this been fixed already?”
    and the money just appears.

    Nobody says “Well, I live in such-and-such community, and we keep our water infrastructure up-to-date. Why can’t you do the same?” We can’t say this because BLM and race victimology.

    And so now, the state of Michigan (i.e., Michigan taxpayers) will pay $100 million for new infrastructure for a city that is 2/3 empty, just like in Detroit. That’s why Flint will have the most expensive water bills in the country. It’s amazingly stupid. The state should use eminent domain to resettle everyone in Detroit, have full blocks of people instead of 2-3 families per block, and then plow Flint under. It’s over.

  163. White librarian shot to death in Punta Gorda, Florida at a police demonstration of how they deal with black offenders.

    The fact that police would think it amusing to point a gun at people and fire what they thought were blanks shows that they are way too casual in the use of guns. More training needed, like “don’t ever point guns at people, even when (you think they are) unloaded.”

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Jonathan Mason

    "More training needed, like 'don’t ever point guns at people, even when (you think they are) unloaded.'”

    You haven't taken a gun safety course, have you?

    The 4 rules of gun safety are:

    1) All guns are always loaded.

    2) Never point a gun at anything you don't intend to destroy.

    3) Always determine in advance what is behind your intended target.

    4) Never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to shoot.


    I listed these from memory.

    Replies: @dc.sunsets, @E. Rekshun, @dr kill

  164. @NOTA
    @Luke Lea

    Project Zero (affiliated with BLM) proposes getting more black policemen for black neighborhoods. To the extent the bad relations between black communities and police come down to race, that seems like a prettygood suggestion.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Mr. Anon, @E. Rekshun

    @76: Project Zero (affiliated with BLM) proposes getting more black policemen for black neighborhoods.

    Well, assuming hiring standards for more black officers wouldn’t need to be drastically lowered, where would all of these candidates come from. Every industry – STEM, military, law & grad schools, corporate America, federal and local governments, fire departments, Major League Baseball, NFL head coaching, etc. – is desperately trying to get significantly more blacks in the ranks. There just aren’t enough, be that qualified or unqualified, to go around.

    • Replies: @Triumph104
    @E. Rekshun

    Outside of athletics black men are extreme underperformers. The only way to increase their numbers in any industry is to lower standards. Currently the number of black men in medical school is the same as in the 1970s and the only reason it is as high today is due to immigration. It is estimated that half of the black men in medical school are Nigerian.

    In 2015 New Orleans eliminated the requirement of 60 hours of college or two years of military experience for police recruits. Philadelphia's new black police commissioner is considering eliminating the requirement of 60 hours of college and raising the minimum age from 19 to 22 for recruits.

    One percent of police departments in the US require that new police officers have a bachelor's degree and 10 percent require 60 hours college credit. A small study has shown that educated officers have less job satisfaction but are less likely to be verbally and physically abusive to citizens.

    http://articles.philly.com/2016-05-04/news/72807942_1_college-requirement-new-officers-ramsey

    Replies: @Jefferson, @dc.sunsets, @E. Rekshun

  165. @Whiskey
    IMHO White people have a moral and more importantly, a fiscal duty to lecture Black at every turn about the failings of the Black community as a whole.

    The Black underclass engaging in constant, tribal violence so that the baddest warrior can brag/boast of the most coup-counting ultraviolence and impregnate the hottest women; like Clockwork Orange only with Black people. And the Black elite not demanding the Black underclass cease violence as a way of demonstrating masculine attractiveness. As much as we as White people need to lecture Tookie types, on the unacceptable violence and inevitable White consequences that White will deal out eventually; we also need to lecture Michelle Obama and Barack on their culpability of being "Hitler's Willing Executioners" by enabling massive and constant violence in the Black Underclass.

    Black people elite and underclass alike need to be told in no uncertain terms that the ordinary White taxpayer will reach a sudden breaking point and stop this. If need be by restricting rights, actions, and everything else based on race and ethnicity since the idea of citizenship and non-racial rules has already been shredded; and all that remains is White restraint and White elite rule; both shaky and questionable.

    The biggest issue is fiscal. All the money that murders cost (roughly $17 million Slate notwithstanding) comes out of White taxpaying pockets. Add in the aggregate effect of constant violence making Black underclass areas a massively dependent tax hole, requiring White tax dollar subsidies instead of GENERATING TAX REVENUE and Whites ...

    ARE PAYING FOR BLACK VIOLENCE. And again, Black violence is pretty much 90% at least aimed at producing sexy killers for Black women who desire said thugs. Rap Music is a giant minstrel show of thug-ism parading around for Black women who desire the most ultraviolent as an expression of dominance.

    IMHO Whites particularly working class / middle class Whites who pay for all of this should demand Black women stop acting "stupid and slutty" and that Black underclass people instead demonstrate dominance by mastery. A Black underclass ghetto kid may not have it in him to be the next Silicon Valley whiz, he can certainly be a master cake decorator. Or sous chef. No one would accuse Gordon Ramsey of being a genius; surely there are many Black underclass men who can achieve a lesser mastery of culinary, woodworking, bicycle repair, or other craft skills.

    Mastery demonstrates its own social dominance, and unlike street violence lasts far beyond one's twenties.

    But, and I am totally serious, White middle/working class taxpayers (elites avoid taxes like Hillary! any prosecution for security violations) need to be assertive and stop tolerating Black underclass free riding and Black elite "Hitler enabling" (and we need to be as hard/offensive as possible to break through Black elite piteous self regard) a constant grind of violence that is becoming rapidly unaffordable.

    Bonus points -- show Black elites that the demands of money to take in refugees from around the world means they'll have to give up not only free-riding on White taxpayer money but their social position as refugees need it more.

    No more walking on eggshells, avoiding the subject, groveling. Black murders are a free-ride on the White taxpayer so some thug can have sex.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @bomag, @Gross Terry

    like a lot of internet nerds, you under-estimate the skills and intellectual discipline required of skilled trade. Trayvon the electrician will burn down your house. D’rickshaw the plumber will flood your man cave with sewage. And no, the angles will not line up in Quantaviouses colonial style dining set.

    The people who used to be employed in the skilled trades still exist; they are now in sub worthless 4 year college programs for the chance at marginal white collar labor. The black underclass is only qualified for the same sort of labor they were imported for in the first place; unskilled agricultural.

    • Replies: @Triumph104
    @Gross Terry

    The problem is many employers don't want to employ blacks for labor intensive jobs. Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles lost at $3.2M discrimination lawsuit and filed for bankruptcy. A black man was fired and told that blacks don't work hard after he complained he wasn't getting hours and Hispanics were.

    A TGIF franchise in New York City closed and reopened at a new location a mile away. The restaurant only rehired the "light-skinned" employees, mostly Hispanic. All of the blacks except for one light-skinned were out of work.

    The LG plant near Huntsville, AL has an estimated 75 percent Hispanic workforce, mostly temps, despite the Huntsville area being five percent Hispanic.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @anon

    , @stillCARealist
    @Gross Terry

    I don't know. I've seen and known plenty of decent black employees. If you take the time to train them properly they can be quite good at their jobs. Sort of like most human beings.

  166. Anonymous • Disclaimer says: • Website

    While everyone is questioning the “lack of a viable” presidential candidate . . . The black community (with all of our problems) is being swindled. A group of queer people of color and immigrants have commandeered decades of “no justice, no peace” protest and marches calling themselves BLM.

    The problem is they openly admit that their “fight” is for “gay and transgender rights.”

    Forget about the agenda they announced a few weeks ago (that still doesn’t go far enough to address the things that black boys and girls are out here getting arrested fight for), it’s just a ploy to raise money.

    That is, the “Black-Led Movement Fund” that supports the “Movement for Black Lives,” led by the “Borealis Philanthropy” have been laughing “all the way to the bank” collecting millions to to fight for their real agenda “gay and transgender rights.” Take look at their websites they don’t hide their LGBTQ agenda.

    Just wait until the black boys and girls with “boots on the ground” realize the truth about Blacklivesmatter!!!”

  167. How much $$$ loot do these “grassroots” black antiviolence groups get each year from Uncle Sugar?

    Looks like make-work, living on the dole to me…much like the current president’s prepolitical occupation.

    I can’t wait until the end of the credit bubble. Wait until Uncle Sugar can’t borrow & redistribute wealth created from nowhere, and actually has to TAX money before handing it out to purchase the next election.

    All the fat little piggies, cut off from Uncle Sugar’s nipples….

  168. @Jonathan Mason
    White librarian shot to death in Punta Gorda, Florida at a police demonstration of how they deal with black offenders.

    The fact that police would think it amusing to point a gun at people and fire what they thought were blanks shows that they are way too casual in the use of guns. More training needed, like "don't ever point guns at people, even when (you think they are) unloaded."

    Replies: @Kylie

    “More training needed, like ‘don’t ever point guns at people, even when (you think they are) unloaded.’”

    You haven’t taken a gun safety course, have you?

    The 4 rules of gun safety are:

    1) All guns are always loaded.

    2) Never point a gun at anything you don’t intend to destroy.

    3) Always determine in advance what is behind your intended target.

    4) Never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to shoot.

    I listed these from memory.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    @Kylie

    Kylie, your #1 is a bit silly. If all guns are loaded and you must never clean, repair or perform gunsmithing on loaded guns, how are you supposed to clean, repair, etc.?

    My response to you is no more pedantic than yours to Mr. Mason.

    Your #1 should be, Treat all guns as though they are loaded, with the addendum that you always verify a gun is unloaded yourself, you don't take someone else's word for it.

    Most people err by sweeping, with the muzzle, things they shouldn't. No doubt you've seen this in gun stores at the least.

    , @E. Rekshun
    @Kylie

    @169: The 4 rules of gun safety are:...

    From my 1976 hunter safety course at age 13, "treat every gun with the respect due a loaded gun."

    , @dr kill
    @Kylie

    But you know what he means when he says all guns are loaded, he meant consider every gun you meet as loaded and safety off. The only other point I would add to Kylie's list - don't ever display your weapon unless you intend to use it immediately. No threatening or waving around.

  169. @E. Rekshun
    @NOTA

    @76: Project Zero (affiliated with BLM) proposes getting more black policemen for black neighborhoods.

    Well, assuming hiring standards for more black officers wouldn't need to be drastically lowered, where would all of these candidates come from. Every industry - STEM, military, law & grad schools, corporate America, federal and local governments, fire departments, Major League Baseball, NFL head coaching, etc. - is desperately trying to get significantly more blacks in the ranks. There just aren't enough, be that qualified or unqualified, to go around.

    Replies: @Triumph104

    Outside of athletics black men are extreme underperformers. The only way to increase their numbers in any industry is to lower standards. Currently the number of black men in medical school is the same as in the 1970s and the only reason it is as high today is due to immigration. It is estimated that half of the black men in medical school are Nigerian.

    In 2015 New Orleans eliminated the requirement of 60 hours of college or two years of military experience for police recruits. Philadelphia’s new black police commissioner is considering eliminating the requirement of 60 hours of college and raising the minimum age from 19 to 22 for recruits.

    One percent of police departments in the US require that new police officers have a bachelor’s degree and 10 percent require 60 hours college credit. A small study has shown that educated officers have less job satisfaction but are less likely to be verbally and physically abusive to citizens.

    http://articles.philly.com/2016-05-04/news/72807942_1_college-requirement-new-officers-ramsey

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Triumph104

    "Outside of athletics black men are extreme underperformers. The only way to increase their numbers in any industry is to lower standards. Currently the number of black men in medical school is the same as in the 1970s and the only reason it is as high today is due to immigration. It is estimated that half of the black men in medical school are Nigerian."

    At least 50 percent of the doctors in Grey's Anatomy are Black, even though Seattle is only 7 percent Black.

    In the real world not even 50 percent of doctors in Baltimore are Black, let alone in Seattle.

    , @dc.sunsets
    @Triumph104

    Yes, and when it comes to crime & blacks, I wonder what lowering hiring standards will do for the frequency of black cops raping, robbing and murdering people from behind their badges?

    Wasn't there a recent story of a serial rapist being a cop (and black?)
    http://www.mercurynews.com/san-mateo-county/ci_30153697/ex-san-mateo-cop-arrested-charged-multiple-duty

    Lowering standards to pull in more black to police forces will have the same predictable result as it does for all other occupations; people learn to assume that the black is probably lousy at the job. Based on probabilities, they're often right.

    In the case of cops, though, whites abused by affirmative action hire cops will cast off whatever brainwashing Hollywood has left, and race-identity politics will get a huge boost.

    Replies: @dr kill

    , @E. Rekshun
    @Triumph104

    @170: One percent of police departments in the US require that new police officers have a bachelor’s degree and 10 percent require 60 hours college credit.

    Over the past 25 years, I've lived in several mid-size to large FL cities; none of them required a college degree to be hired as a police officer. In fact, I suspect that it's sort of discouraged. On the other hand, for an officer to get promoted up the ranks beyond Sgt., they need a 4-year degree - but they end up getting some weak criminal justice degree from some fly-by-night school on the city's dime.

  170. @Gross Terry
    @Whiskey

    like a lot of internet nerds, you under-estimate the skills and intellectual discipline required of skilled trade. Trayvon the electrician will burn down your house. D'rickshaw the plumber will flood your man cave with sewage. And no, the angles will not line up in Quantaviouses colonial style dining set.

    The people who used to be employed in the skilled trades still exist; they are now in sub worthless 4 year college programs for the chance at marginal white collar labor. The black underclass is only qualified for the same sort of labor they were imported for in the first place; unskilled agricultural.

    Replies: @Triumph104, @stillCARealist

    The problem is many employers don’t want to employ blacks for labor intensive jobs. Roscoe’s Chicken and Waffles lost at $3.2M discrimination lawsuit and filed for bankruptcy. A black man was fired and told that blacks don’t work hard after he complained he wasn’t getting hours and Hispanics were.

    A TGIF franchise in New York City closed and reopened at a new location a mile away. The restaurant only rehired the “light-skinned” employees, mostly Hispanic. All of the blacks except for one light-skinned were out of work.

    The LG plant near Huntsville, AL has an estimated 75 percent Hispanic workforce, mostly temps, despite the Huntsville area being five percent Hispanic.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Triumph104

    Starbucks and similar chains hire lots of blacks in Manhattan. Which is interesting, because in the suburbs, Starbucks employees are mostly white with some Asians.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @anon
    @Triumph104

    When I visited the Smithsonian's in Washington, it seemed like every single government job was taken by a black and every single private sector job (the huge MacDonald's' for example) was occupied by a brown-skinned Hispanic.

  171. @Kylie
    @Grandpa Jack

    "From BLM: 'We…. Demand a thorough and accurate public education curriculum on Black History, including not only slavery and civil rights, but also contributions of African and African American heritage at the local, national and global level. '”

    Oh, no. "We wuz kings", swarthy Beethoven, Elvis stole the blues, peanut butter and Supersoakers forever.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @ogunsiron

    “Oh, no. “We wuz kings”, swarthy Beethoven, Elvis stole the blues, peanut butter and Supersoakers forever.”

    It’s kangs not kings. Crazy Afrocentrics contradict themselves in that they claim Elvis Presley stole Negro music, while at the time believing he was a secret Negro passing for White, even though both of his parents looked physically White.

    White passing so-called “Negroes” always had at least 1 parent who obviously didn’t look White. They never had 2 White looking parents. That is why the ones who passed full time always had to cut ties with their parents. They can’t be seen associating in public with their Mulatto looking mother or father.

  172. @Triumph104
    @E. Rekshun

    Outside of athletics black men are extreme underperformers. The only way to increase their numbers in any industry is to lower standards. Currently the number of black men in medical school is the same as in the 1970s and the only reason it is as high today is due to immigration. It is estimated that half of the black men in medical school are Nigerian.

    In 2015 New Orleans eliminated the requirement of 60 hours of college or two years of military experience for police recruits. Philadelphia's new black police commissioner is considering eliminating the requirement of 60 hours of college and raising the minimum age from 19 to 22 for recruits.

    One percent of police departments in the US require that new police officers have a bachelor's degree and 10 percent require 60 hours college credit. A small study has shown that educated officers have less job satisfaction but are less likely to be verbally and physically abusive to citizens.

    http://articles.philly.com/2016-05-04/news/72807942_1_college-requirement-new-officers-ramsey

    Replies: @Jefferson, @dc.sunsets, @E. Rekshun

    “Outside of athletics black men are extreme underperformers. The only way to increase their numbers in any industry is to lower standards. Currently the number of black men in medical school is the same as in the 1970s and the only reason it is as high today is due to immigration. It is estimated that half of the black men in medical school are Nigerian.”

    At least 50 percent of the doctors in Grey’s Anatomy are Black, even though Seattle is only 7 percent Black.

    In the real world not even 50 percent of doctors in Baltimore are Black, let alone in Seattle.

  173. @Kylie
    @Jonathan Mason

    "More training needed, like 'don’t ever point guns at people, even when (you think they are) unloaded.'”

    You haven't taken a gun safety course, have you?

    The 4 rules of gun safety are:

    1) All guns are always loaded.

    2) Never point a gun at anything you don't intend to destroy.

    3) Always determine in advance what is behind your intended target.

    4) Never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to shoot.


    I listed these from memory.

    Replies: @dc.sunsets, @E. Rekshun, @dr kill

    Kylie, your #1 is a bit silly. If all guns are loaded and you must never clean, repair or perform gunsmithing on loaded guns, how are you supposed to clean, repair, etc.?

    My response to you is no more pedantic than yours to Mr. Mason.

    Your #1 should be, Treat all guns as though they are loaded, with the addendum that you always verify a gun is unloaded yourself, you don’t take someone else’s word for it.

    Most people err by sweeping, with the muzzle, things they shouldn’t. No doubt you’ve seen this in gun stores at the least.

  174. @Yak-15
    @Truth

    Not in the largest American cities outside of simple assault/battery. I have never met someone who has been robbed by a white guy in Chicago. Or shot by a white guy. Or stabbed by a white guy. Or...

    Then again, I am youngish and it seems that many of the bad whites were priced out of Chicago at least half a generation ago.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Not in the largest American cities outside of simple assault/battery. I have never met someone who has been robbed by a white guy in Chicago. Or shot by a white guy. Or stabbed by a white guy. Or…

    Then again, I am youngish and it seems that many of the bad whites were priced out of Chicago at least half a generation ago.”

    If we are talking stranger on stranger violence, than Black on White violence is definitely way more common than White on White violence in The U.S.

    Among Whites who have been victims of Black violence, most of them have never met their apex predator before that day of the incident.

    The Whites in the Knoxville massacre for example had never before that day met the Black savages who kidnapped them, raped them, and burned them alive.

    24 hours before Michael Brown tried to steal Darren Wilson’s gun, Darren had never met that thug before.

    With White on violence, most of the time there is some type of history between the victim and the prey.

  175. @Gross Terry
    @Whiskey

    like a lot of internet nerds, you under-estimate the skills and intellectual discipline required of skilled trade. Trayvon the electrician will burn down your house. D'rickshaw the plumber will flood your man cave with sewage. And no, the angles will not line up in Quantaviouses colonial style dining set.

    The people who used to be employed in the skilled trades still exist; they are now in sub worthless 4 year college programs for the chance at marginal white collar labor. The black underclass is only qualified for the same sort of labor they were imported for in the first place; unskilled agricultural.

    Replies: @Triumph104, @stillCARealist

    I don’t know. I’ve seen and known plenty of decent black employees. If you take the time to train them properly they can be quite good at their jobs. Sort of like most human beings.

  176. @Triumph104
    @E. Rekshun

    Outside of athletics black men are extreme underperformers. The only way to increase their numbers in any industry is to lower standards. Currently the number of black men in medical school is the same as in the 1970s and the only reason it is as high today is due to immigration. It is estimated that half of the black men in medical school are Nigerian.

    In 2015 New Orleans eliminated the requirement of 60 hours of college or two years of military experience for police recruits. Philadelphia's new black police commissioner is considering eliminating the requirement of 60 hours of college and raising the minimum age from 19 to 22 for recruits.

    One percent of police departments in the US require that new police officers have a bachelor's degree and 10 percent require 60 hours college credit. A small study has shown that educated officers have less job satisfaction but are less likely to be verbally and physically abusive to citizens.

    http://articles.philly.com/2016-05-04/news/72807942_1_college-requirement-new-officers-ramsey

    Replies: @Jefferson, @dc.sunsets, @E. Rekshun

    Yes, and when it comes to crime & blacks, I wonder what lowering hiring standards will do for the frequency of black cops raping, robbing and murdering people from behind their badges?

    Wasn’t there a recent story of a serial rapist being a cop (and black?)
    http://www.mercurynews.com/san-mateo-county/ci_30153697/ex-san-mateo-cop-arrested-charged-multiple-duty

    Lowering standards to pull in more black to police forces will have the same predictable result as it does for all other occupations; people learn to assume that the black is probably lousy at the job. Based on probabilities, they’re often right.

    In the case of cops, though, whites abused by affirmative action hire cops will cast off whatever brainwashing Hollywood has left, and race-identity politics will get a huge boost.

    • Replies: @dr kill
    @dc.sunsets

    Brings to mind my favorite Reggie Hammond quote from 48 Hours. In the country bar. You know the one I mean.

  177. @Triumph104
    @Gross Terry

    The problem is many employers don't want to employ blacks for labor intensive jobs. Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles lost at $3.2M discrimination lawsuit and filed for bankruptcy. A black man was fired and told that blacks don't work hard after he complained he wasn't getting hours and Hispanics were.

    A TGIF franchise in New York City closed and reopened at a new location a mile away. The restaurant only rehired the "light-skinned" employees, mostly Hispanic. All of the blacks except for one light-skinned were out of work.

    The LG plant near Huntsville, AL has an estimated 75 percent Hispanic workforce, mostly temps, despite the Huntsville area being five percent Hispanic.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @anon

    Starbucks and similar chains hire lots of blacks in Manhattan. Which is interesting, because in the suburbs, Starbucks employees are mostly white with some Asians.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Dave Pinsen

    "Starbucks and similar chains hire lots of blacks in Manhattan. Which is interesting, because in the suburbs, Starbucks employees are mostly white with some Asians."

    In San Francisco Starbucks employees are mostly Asian with some Whites.

  178. @anon
    @ogunsiron

    why then do they not care about the indonesian occupation of papua. the occupiers (indonesians) are much lighter than the opressed papuans. in addition indonesia has killed 478,000 more papuans in their occupation than israel has in theirs.

    Replies: @anon, @ogunsiron

    You’re asking me why anti-europeans hypocritically fail to criticize brown on black genocide ? You’re asking me why they only focus on (perceived as) white misdeeds as opposed to misdeeds in general ?

  179. @Kylie
    @Grandpa Jack

    "From BLM: 'We…. Demand a thorough and accurate public education curriculum on Black History, including not only slavery and civil rights, but also contributions of African and African American heritage at the local, national and global level. '”

    Oh, no. "We wuz kings", swarthy Beethoven, Elvis stole the blues, peanut butter and Supersoakers forever.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @ogunsiron

    Oh, no. “We wuz kings”,

    it’s “we waz kaaangz and sheeit”, actually.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @ogunsiron

    "Oh, no. “We wuz kings”,

    it’s “we waz kaaangz and sheeit”, actually."

    Have you ever seen the Left Wing MTV propaganda video by a Negro woman named Franchesca Ramsey who basically claims Blacks invented everything? Televisions, telephones, the internet, every medical equipment, etc.

  180. @Kylie
    @Jonathan Mason

    "More training needed, like 'don’t ever point guns at people, even when (you think they are) unloaded.'”

    You haven't taken a gun safety course, have you?

    The 4 rules of gun safety are:

    1) All guns are always loaded.

    2) Never point a gun at anything you don't intend to destroy.

    3) Always determine in advance what is behind your intended target.

    4) Never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to shoot.


    I listed these from memory.

    Replies: @dc.sunsets, @E. Rekshun, @dr kill

    @169: The 4 rules of gun safety are:…

    From my 1976 hunter safety course at age 13, “treat every gun with the respect due a loaded gun.”

  181. @Triumph104
    @E. Rekshun

    Outside of athletics black men are extreme underperformers. The only way to increase their numbers in any industry is to lower standards. Currently the number of black men in medical school is the same as in the 1970s and the only reason it is as high today is due to immigration. It is estimated that half of the black men in medical school are Nigerian.

    In 2015 New Orleans eliminated the requirement of 60 hours of college or two years of military experience for police recruits. Philadelphia's new black police commissioner is considering eliminating the requirement of 60 hours of college and raising the minimum age from 19 to 22 for recruits.

    One percent of police departments in the US require that new police officers have a bachelor's degree and 10 percent require 60 hours college credit. A small study has shown that educated officers have less job satisfaction but are less likely to be verbally and physically abusive to citizens.

    http://articles.philly.com/2016-05-04/news/72807942_1_college-requirement-new-officers-ramsey

    Replies: @Jefferson, @dc.sunsets, @E. Rekshun

    @170: One percent of police departments in the US require that new police officers have a bachelor’s degree and 10 percent require 60 hours college credit.

    Over the past 25 years, I’ve lived in several mid-size to large FL cities; none of them required a college degree to be hired as a police officer. In fact, I suspect that it’s sort of discouraged. On the other hand, for an officer to get promoted up the ranks beyond Sgt., they need a 4-year degree – but they end up getting some weak criminal justice degree from some fly-by-night school on the city’s dime.

  182. @Triumph104
    @Gross Terry

    The problem is many employers don't want to employ blacks for labor intensive jobs. Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles lost at $3.2M discrimination lawsuit and filed for bankruptcy. A black man was fired and told that blacks don't work hard after he complained he wasn't getting hours and Hispanics were.

    A TGIF franchise in New York City closed and reopened at a new location a mile away. The restaurant only rehired the "light-skinned" employees, mostly Hispanic. All of the blacks except for one light-skinned were out of work.

    The LG plant near Huntsville, AL has an estimated 75 percent Hispanic workforce, mostly temps, despite the Huntsville area being five percent Hispanic.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @anon

    When I visited the Smithsonian’s in Washington, it seemed like every single government job was taken by a black and every single private sector job (the huge MacDonald’s’ for example) was occupied by a brown-skinned Hispanic.

  183. @Dave Pinsen
    @Triumph104

    Starbucks and similar chains hire lots of blacks in Manhattan. Which is interesting, because in the suburbs, Starbucks employees are mostly white with some Asians.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Starbucks and similar chains hire lots of blacks in Manhattan. Which is interesting, because in the suburbs, Starbucks employees are mostly white with some Asians.”

    In San Francisco Starbucks employees are mostly Asian with some Whites.

  184. @ogunsiron
    @Kylie

    Oh, no. “We wuz kings”,
    ---
    it's "we waz kaaangz and sheeit", actually.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Oh, no. “We wuz kings”,

    it’s “we waz kaaangz and sheeit”, actually.”

    Have you ever seen the Left Wing MTV propaganda video by a Negro woman named Franchesca Ramsey who basically claims Blacks invented everything? Televisions, telephones, the internet, every medical equipment, etc.

  185. @anon
    @NOTA

    Okay. But who exactly is killing these black kids who are not into crime or bad behaviour? If you could show say, that it is largely Finnish immigrants doing the killings, then we could solve the problem by just ending immigration from Finland for example. If it is largely blacks doing the killing, then we are right back at the black community as the cause of, and the only possible answer to, this problem.

    Replies: @NOTA

    All the available data points to an overwhelming majority of black murder victims being murdered by blacks. So it’s the black community that’s killing most of the blacks who get killed. But probably the great majority of victims weren’t doing anything wrong when they got killed.

  186. anon • Disclaimer says:

    “But probably the great majority of victims weren’t doing anything wrong when they got killed”.

    Maybe. Maybe not. But certainly tragic enough regardless.

    BUT SINCE YOU SAY “All the available data points to an overwhelming majority of black murder victims being murdered by blacks”, HOW IS ANY OF THIS WHITE PEOPLES FAULT OR RESPONSIBILITY?

  187. @Kylie
    @Jonathan Mason

    "More training needed, like 'don’t ever point guns at people, even when (you think they are) unloaded.'”

    You haven't taken a gun safety course, have you?

    The 4 rules of gun safety are:

    1) All guns are always loaded.

    2) Never point a gun at anything you don't intend to destroy.

    3) Always determine in advance what is behind your intended target.

    4) Never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to shoot.


    I listed these from memory.

    Replies: @dc.sunsets, @E. Rekshun, @dr kill

    But you know what he means when he says all guns are loaded, he meant consider every gun you meet as loaded and safety off. The only other point I would add to Kylie’s list – don’t ever display your weapon unless you intend to use it immediately. No threatening or waving around.

  188. @dc.sunsets
    @Triumph104

    Yes, and when it comes to crime & blacks, I wonder what lowering hiring standards will do for the frequency of black cops raping, robbing and murdering people from behind their badges?

    Wasn't there a recent story of a serial rapist being a cop (and black?)
    http://www.mercurynews.com/san-mateo-county/ci_30153697/ex-san-mateo-cop-arrested-charged-multiple-duty

    Lowering standards to pull in more black to police forces will have the same predictable result as it does for all other occupations; people learn to assume that the black is probably lousy at the job. Based on probabilities, they're often right.

    In the case of cops, though, whites abused by affirmative action hire cops will cast off whatever brainwashing Hollywood has left, and race-identity politics will get a huge boost.

    Replies: @dr kill

    Brings to mind my favorite Reggie Hammond quote from 48 Hours. In the country bar. You know the one I mean.

  189. @Jack D

    grass-roots organizations — many of which were founded by bereaved black women — are doing remarkable work to prevent and reduce crime.
     
    Isn't the time to get excited about crime BEFORE your son is dead? Talk about closing the barn door after the horse is gone.

    These organizations may gather up some government grants but they do nothing to actually reduce crime. A REAL grass roots organization would involve young black men and their (in reality almost always absent) fathers, not their grieving mamas who were powerless over their gentle giants in the first place.

    Replies: @ogunsiron, @Tim, @yowza, @NOTA, @anon, @Brutusale

    I saw the murdered moms on stage at the DNC, and all I could think was what happened to that mother and son from the black protest not to long ago? You remember, the mom who showed up to take her teen home, whacking him upside the head the whole time? I wonder if she kept him straight?

  190. @NOTA
    @Luke Lea

    Project Zero (affiliated with BLM) proposes getting more black policemen for black neighborhoods. To the extent the bad relations between black communities and police come down to race, that seems like a prettygood suggestion.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Doesn’t the date show that black cops are MORE inclined to shoot?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Brutusale

    I haven't seen any data either way on that. I wonder if the Post collected that information--it doesn't seem to be available on their page here.

    Replies: @Brutusale

  191. @Brutusale
    @NOTA

    Doesn't the date show that black cops are MORE inclined to shoot?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I haven’t seen any data either way on that. I wonder if the Post collected that information–it doesn’t seem to be available on their page here.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Anonymous

    The only study I've ever been able to find is the one by Greg Ridgeway. He concludes that black cops are more than 3X as likely to shoot as white cops.

    http://amstat.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/2330443X.2015.1129918

  192. @Anonymous
    @Brutusale

    I haven't seen any data either way on that. I wonder if the Post collected that information--it doesn't seem to be available on their page here.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    The only study I’ve ever been able to find is the one by Greg Ridgeway. He concludes that black cops are more than 3X as likely to shoot as white cops.

    http://amstat.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/2330443X.2015.1129918

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