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Commenter res calls our attention to a 2012 study from the Stanford Center for Education Policy Analysis regarding public school teachers and principals:

Race and the Principal Pipeline – Center for Education Policy Analysis

Thus, black principals are relatively over-represented in the principal workforce compared to teachers. …

This result is somewhat surprising given that almost all principals are former teachers. …

Black teachers have the highest probability of becoming principals throughout the teacher lifecycle. Hispanic teachers have the lowest probabilities and the probabilities for white teachers are situated between the two minority groups. The racial differences in the hazard functions are statistically significant.

The inclusion of teacher characteristics, school characteristics, and year fixed effects increases the odds ratio from 2.18 to 6.36.

So black teachers are perhaps 5 times as likely to become school principals as similar white teachers.

There’s your White Privilege at work.

 
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  1. Anonymous [AKA "SimpleMAn"] says:

    It would be interesting to compare marriage rates. Principal can be a demanding job. Are there more singles/divorced principals than in the teacher ranks?

    • Replies: @Jake
    Why? Who cares a fig?
    , @Alden
    Who cares? The article is about affirmative action discrimination.
    , @Father O'Hara
    I've read so many stories about black principals demanding sex from female subordinates,makes ya wonder if they consider on demand lovin' a normal perk of da job!
  2. a big mouth and a fearsome reputation can go a long way.

    • Replies: @anon
    A lack of basic intelligence can often be hidden by 'eloquence' or a 'big mouth'. Did not Ali once say, "I said I was the greatest. Not the smartest".
    , @Pat Boyle
    I had an Army buddy who with his wife became public school teachers. They taught on Treasure Island in the San Francisco Bay.

    Like Steve, I'm tall. I'm 6'4" but unlike Steve I'm husky. So I'm a lot bigger than the average teacher or student. Both of my teacher friends claimed that if I went to work for the school district I would be in great demand as a School Principal. They seemed to think that the only qualification to be a High School principal was to be imposing.

    I don't know if this is a common perception. I can't imagine being a Principal. I taught math and computer science courses at the college level. I always loved to teach but I always avoided school administration. Being a School Principal is being a disciplinarian hulk. It has nothing to do with education.

    Or at least that was always my impression. So it doesn't surprise me that blacks prosper in this kind of distasteful job.
  3. Back around 1970 I came up with this.

    “Women and minorities encouraged to apply” means only minority women will be hired.

    I’m glad to see something about the vicious discrimination against American Whites brought up on this thread instead of the endless foreign affairs.

    • Replies: @Dr. X

    I’m glad to see something about the vicious discrimination against American Whites brought up on this thread
     
    And vicious it is indeed. The Fourteenth Amendment supposedly requires "equal protection of he laws," but the perverse reality is that it has been distorted to justify virulent, pervasive, anti-white policies in both the public and private sectors. The White Man has become the Negro of the 21st century; he has been placed under legal, constitutional, and social disability, and forced to do the actual work upon which society depends while women, blacks, mulattoes and queers are given positions of honor, privilege and rank.

    A thoroughly disgusting situation. Can Whites remedy it in the current context, or must social collapse occur before a remedy is possible?
    , @Anonymous
    “Women and minorities encouraged to apply” means only minority women will be hired.

    No, they're still fond of hiring women, at least ahead of white men. But yes, if a NAM racial minority is at least qualified for the position (not the best candidate of the pool, just appears to be sufficiently qualified), they'll be snatched up ahead of white women, and white women ahead of white men.

    Libs need to keep white women in the 'diversity' beneficiary pool, at least enough so to prevent them from feeling significantly discriminated against. It's really the only way the whole thing works. Without that, they lack the numbers to pull off anything politically.
  4. Blacks get Affirmative Action in everything, and in certain areas, it is brutal.

    Our Elites intend it to go on forever, because that is the way to make the majority of white Gentiles into virtual serfs.

    Our Elites are worse than the Ancien Regime in mid- 18th century France.

    • Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)
    They all ganged up on the God-Emperor and reduced him to the barren Baron of Behren, 2nd Baron of Behren and, whereas barren, Last of His Imperial House.

    JFK was Last of His Imperial House, too.

    It's easy for such lowly folk as I to harshly criticize most of his recent actions; this is not the Donald J. Trump that I voted for.

    But perhaps the Forces Arrayed Against Him are beyond the imagining of us mere mortals. Let us pray either to Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, or to the irrelevant fake tribal deity of your choice, for inner peace in this, "Our Tempestuous Day".
    , @Triumph104

    Blacks get Affirmative Action in everything
     
    The teaching profession doesn't really offer affirmative action to blacks. The standardized testing for teaching credentials keeps most blacks out of the field. Recently the HBCU Lincoln University had to close its teacher preparation program because many of their students could not pass the Pennsylvania basic skills exam in reading, math, and writing that is necessary in order to take upper division education courses. LINK In Illinois only 17% of blacks were passing the Illinois exam required for admission into colleges of education. LINK

    Additionally in the last 15 years, programs like No Child Left Behind have forced thousands of black teachers from the teaching field. Teachers were punished for low test scores and black teachers who are most likely to teach black and Hispanic kids got punished the hardest.

    Education Realist has done several excellent articles on teacher certification. LINK

    Aside: Last year two married black middle school principals/assistant in Louisiana and Missouri murdered their pregnant black school teacher mistresses -- four fewer blacks in education.

  5. @Anonymous
    It would be interesting to compare marriage rates. Principal can be a demanding job. Are there more singles/divorced principals than in the teacher ranks?

    Why? Who cares a fig?

  6. One cause for this might be the Boomers’ love of pulling the ladder up behind them on the way out. White Boomers enjoyed their whiteness and/or maleness all the way through their professional life journey but, as they head off into the sunset, they like to make sure their successor is “a woman, preferably a woman of colour”. That’s been the pattern here in Canada with quite a few of our politicians. Will that same Lady Bountiful mentality carry on with White Gen Xers and Millennials? I doubt it. You can’t fake that level of cynicism.

    • Replies: @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    Back in the 90s when the "peace dividend" meant that the Department of State and the Foreign Service was shrinking by attrition and had cancelled the Foreign Service Exam for a couple years when I might have been considering it, I happened to overhear a slimy middle aged Foreign Service Officer giving some informal advice to the young ladies who were taking part in a special mentoring program for women and minorities.

    The gist of his message: "Because whitemales already overwhelmingly dominate the ranks, they'll be trying to hire just women and minorities for years to come until the old guard retires and the numbers are more balanced."

    Right.

    Because what every woman who has aspirations for family wants to be redeployed every two years from some warzone hellhole to another.

    Bagdad, Kabul, Mogadishu, Ouagadougou, Benghazi here I come!
    , @Anonymous
    One cause for this might be the Boomers’ love of pulling the ladder up behind them on the way out. White Boomers enjoyed their whiteness and/or maleness all the way through their professional life journey but, as they head off into the sunset, they like to make sure their successor is “a woman, preferably a woman of colour”. That’s been the pattern here in Canada with quite a few of our politicians. Will that same Lady Bountiful mentality carry on with White Gen Xers and Millennials? I doubt it. You can’t fake that level of cynicism.

    Perhaps they're being forced to have a minority or woman as their successor.

    Alos, when did this bashing of Boomers get started? Am I the only one here who thinks it's kind of stupid? Why divide people (Boomers vs. Gen Xers and Millennials) who could otherwise possibly be allies?

    , @L Woods
    Very true. I'll never forget my university president's speech when I started grad school, informing us of his sincerest wish that the DC policy community no longer "look like him." Of course, he already has his -- I didn't see him offering up his posh sinecure. But in his great beneficence, he's willing to sacrifice the socioeconomic aspirations of his younger struggling relatives. What could be more noble?
    , @Random Dude on the Internet
    Very well put. The same aging (white) boomers who feel pride that they deny white people opportunities for advancement also act perplexed that their sons and daughters (collectively) aren't doing as well as them at their respective stages in life. They don't see the connection that anti-white hiring practices means that white people are doing less well overall. But hey, whatever makes them feel good as they walk out the door, that's all that matters.
  7. And those can’t teach become principals.?

    • Replies: @Alden
    Exactly!!!!!
  8. Looks like the Peter Principle on Affirmative Blacktion steroids.

    Perhaps schools, school districts, school boards, and local politicians favor having black principals for all the local “news” (cough-cough) “education” coverage that lets the schools show off black principals as “role models” and Diversity spokes-faces.

    Come to think of it, how did all the black principals and administrators work out in the Atlanta schools’ grade-falsifying scandal?

    • Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    Peter Principle on Steroids indeed.
    Teaching is hard if you care, easy if you don't. What many districts do, if a teacher 1-3 year in sucks, is they "promote" them to "curriculum coordinator" or some such term. It's a way to keep them in the teachers union.
    Imagine being a Nice White Lady teacher with ten years experience who has a curriculum supervisor who is 1) a token and 2) sucks at the job
    Now imagine trying to sell valid solutions to schools: chip on the shoulder, single, fat, Af Am woman bureaucrat, over credentialed and licensed out the ass. But low IQ and unread. Deer in the headlight eyes or anger-just-because-they-have-no-idea-what-you're- talking-about...
    If you're white, wear a pick shirt to sell to black school admins. They think white guys in pink shirts are sexy. Heard this from a textbook sales guy. Hasn't failed.
  9. Confounders: High IQ blacks are attracted to government work. Also, really high status in the black community for that job. Also getting a bs PhD from the likes of Murray State, Chicago State etc is no barrier in the inner city.

    • Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    Even outside the ed industry so many BS
    Online MBAs and PhDs for blacks
    But they're token and magical
  10. They feel that they have to use goodblacks to try and control the badblacks. At least black principals can’t be accused of racism when things don’t improve.

    The goodblacks have as much tied up in the continuance of black dysfunction as anyone; Obama being the prime example.

  11. Josh says:

    Maybe black teachers aren’t as interested in the subject that they teach. I’m a history teacher. It’s the greatest job in the world. Summers off, not particularly difficult nor stressful and I get to talk about history all day long. The principal just listens to parents whine. Granted he makes a little more money, but most of us teachers are the second income in our household. Come to think of it, perhaps blacks teachers are more likely to be the breadwinner of their family than similar white teachers. Obviously, there is major affirmative action, but there may be a couple of ther things going on.

    Incidentally, the principal at my old school was replaced by a black guy that did no command he respect of the faculty. Probably an iq below 100. Maybe well below. Really expensive suits and gold jewelry. I doubt it matters much. Principals don’t seem like they have much to do with the education process in my experience.

    • Replies: @Baltimore teacher
    A lot of black principals in my experience are single or divorced. I mean more than half, which is a very high number for people in their 40s and beyond.

    An additional factor is, the concentration of black principals is similar to demographic voting patterns. Blacks vote overwhelmingly for Dems while whites lean only slightly to the right, with the most educated whites actually leaving left for whatever reason.

    Similarly, black schools are almost certain to have a black principal (90%+). A majority white school isn't necessarily going to have a white principal. And there are many reasons why having at least a black asst principal is useful -- virtual signaling, positive role model for the minorities, able to discipline minority students without seeming racist, etc. And since heavily white schools generally behave and test very well, there's little harm to be done by having a black admin. In fact, an 80%+ white school can usually run itself even if there were no admins. The admin is a mere figurehead.
  12. Does that mean we can start blaming them for the piss poor academic outcomes at urban schools?

    • Replies: @dee nile

    Does that mean we can start blaming them for the piss poor academic outcomes at urban schools?
     
    Nope, that's all on white racism.
  13. Blacks better able to, and less afraid to, discipline the mostly black trouble makers. Failure of Blacks to do better on tests less likely to be attributed to racism. Desirable role model. Probably no written test to pass for principal.

    • Replies: @Baltimore teacher
    There are tests to pass to get an admin I or II credential, but they are easy, much easier than the high school praxis tests for, say, physics or math.

    A lot of smart ppl get turned off by jumping through hoops to become an admin. In major cities, being in the pool to become an admin requires lots of busywork, "mentoring", and boring "professional development". It also requires being willing to take any open job, even if it's on the other side of town, in a bad area, or has a bad reputation.
  14. Anonymous [AKA "Ratbert"] says:

    Sounds like Scott Adams’ Dilbert Principle. “The worst employees are invariably promoted to the place they’ll do the least harm: management.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Sounds like Scott Adams’ Dilbert Principle. “The worst employees are invariably promoted to the place they’ll do the least harm: management.”

    Wouldn't firing them make more sense?
    , @Mr. Anon
    Except management is usually where they can do the most harm.
  15. Some “privilege”.

  16. Maybe the first television cliche of which I became aware (that or the Black Police Chief) is the Black High School Principal.
    The Comedy Central satire of after school specials, Strangers With Candy, based in a high school, featured a bald, baritone-voiced Principal Blackman. When asked about the name, somebody said they had decided to cast the stereotypical black guy in the role, so in the early draft of the script the part read “Black Man”. When looking for a name they decided to just go with that.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    That's like Larry David naming the black Katrina refugees the Blacks.
    , @TelfoedJohn
    It's similar to the hate hoax phenomenon. Demand exceeds supply.

    People want it to be true that black people make wonderful principals, inspiring police chiefs, competent civil servants etc. So if one comes along who is halfway qualified, they will get the job.

    Another reason is that culture rewards 'subversion' in art and life. 'Subverting' reality is seen as a positive thing, whilst describing reality is seen as vulgar.

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BaldBlackLeaderGuy

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlackAndNerdy

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlackBossLady
    , @Anonymous
    "Hold it right there at the border, mi muchacho! Last time I checked, this dance wasn’t accepting green cards from los estudiantes nuevos!"
  17. @tyrone
    a big mouth and a fearsome reputation can go a long way.

    A lack of basic intelligence can often be hidden by ‘eloquence’ or a ‘big mouth’. Did not Ali once say, “I said I was the greatest. Not the smartest”.

  18. @Arclight
    Does that mean we can start blaming them for the piss poor academic outcomes at urban schools?

    Does that mean we can start blaming them for the piss poor academic outcomes at urban schools?

    Nope, that’s all on white racism.

  19. @Dennis Dale
    Maybe the first television cliche of which I became aware (that or the Black Police Chief) is the Black High School Principal.
    The Comedy Central satire of after school specials, Strangers With Candy, based in a high school, featured a bald, baritone-voiced Principal Blackman. When asked about the name, somebody said they had decided to cast the stereotypical black guy in the role, so in the early draft of the script the part read "Black Man". When looking for a name they decided to just go with that.

    That’s like Larry David naming the black Katrina refugees the Blacks.

  20. @Cagey Beast
    One cause for this might be the Boomers' love of pulling the ladder up behind them on the way out. White Boomers enjoyed their whiteness and/or maleness all the way through their professional life journey but, as they head off into the sunset, they like to make sure their successor is "a woman, preferably a woman of colour". That's been the pattern here in Canada with quite a few of our politicians. Will that same Lady Bountiful mentality carry on with White Gen Xers and Millennials? I doubt it. You can't fake that level of cynicism.

    Back in the 90s when the “peace dividend” meant that the Department of State and the Foreign Service was shrinking by attrition and had cancelled the Foreign Service Exam for a couple years when I might have been considering it, I happened to overhear a slimy middle aged Foreign Service Officer giving some informal advice to the young ladies who were taking part in a special mentoring program for women and minorities.

    The gist of his message: “Because whitemales already overwhelmingly dominate the ranks, they’ll be trying to hire just women and minorities for years to come until the old guard retires and the numbers are more balanced.”

    Right.

    Because what every woman who has aspirations for family wants to be redeployed every two years from some warzone hellhole to another.

    Bagdad, Kabul, Mogadishu, Ouagadougou, Benghazi here I come!

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
    • Replies: @Alden
    That half the foreign service must be 50 percent women was the result of a commie feminazis lawsuit and federal judicial order around 1977. For some reason I was on the mailing list and kept getting letters about the ruling and how wonderful it was.

    I don't know if state even gives the FSO exam any more. Maybe not as they just hire on race and anti American ideology now.

    Here is how they scored the exam to ensure no Whites passed. The test has several sections. Top score is 100. Failure is 69 and below.

    It's called dichotomous averaging to achieve equality of ethnic means
    After a lot of putzing around they just subtract 20 points from the score of each White. So each White who got a true score of 89 and below fails

    Then they add 40 points to the true scores of the blacks. So a few of them get up to an adjusted score of 75 or 80 hurrah hurrah

    Black women who fail even after 40 points are added get hired anyway and are allowed 4 years to take the test and are extensively tutored during the work day while other people do their work.

    Last but not least, White women who got a high original score before the 20 points were deducted are classified as "White male profile" and moved to the White male recycling bin.

    Of course if a White applicant is like CIA chief Brennan and wrote in a communist for president that White is sure to be hired. Activism in BLM type organizations is the only way a White can get hired. A White woman who makes it to the interview should probably go to a Muslim clothing shop and get a shroud and scarf and shrink back if the men on the panel offer to shake hands.

    That's affirmative action, going so far as to classify White women as White male profiles. And that was around 1980.

    Why don't they just put Whites not eligible? No one is fooled when they walk into a government building and see not one White employee.
    , @Clyde
    Ouagadougou? I had to look that one up.
    , @Ivy
    When I interviewed with the Foreign Service, with a cultural and family interest in the Court of St. James 's or the Quai d'Orasy, their unsubtle message was that those spots were allocated to connected people, as in grad pedigrees showing Harvard, Tufts or Johns Hopkins. The outsiders could look forward to stamping visa applications in Central America. No, thanks. That was one of many glimpses at a deepish state.
  21. All judges in movies are black.

    White folks like their Obama: the Negro symbol of authority.

    Thus, whites keep their jobs while Negro bestows benediction upon them.

  22. Exactly what one should expect:

    BRA + Failing upwards in public institutions.

  23. Our friend Education Realist has been writing about this phenomenon for years. Ed points out that teacher certification tests limit the degree of affirmative discrimination possible in new-teacher hiring, but that promotion to admin jobs is AA all the way.

    Of course it is outrageous for all the usual reasons.

    • Agree: Triumph104
    • Replies: @res
    Good point. Here is a recent blog post which includes some more numbers for black administrators and principals: https://educationrealist.wordpress.com/2017/02/28/oh-woe-no-teachers-of-color/
  24. This seems quite plausible to me. First, they must mean urban schools, because I know of no suburban schools around here with black principals. Second, why would a well paid teacher want the added aggravation of dealing with unruly students, unruly parents and unruly teachers. The principal gets all that grief and has to come in earlier and stay later, all for a bit more money. Principals usually have a longer school year and may be called in by the school board.

  25. Doesn’t matter, you shouldn’t be sending your kids to public schools anyway. Besides most principals are going to be uber liberal PC/MC turds to begin with. They will have no love for white boys or girls who cross some arbitrary line, they will crucify and drug your kid and make sure they are marked for life.

    Evil people and system.

    The thing is the problem with public schools extend far beyond AA hiring. Like Common Core which is nothing but training your kid to be a unthinking serf. Then there there are far too many minorities who are given carte blanche. Lets not forget mainstreaming the dumb kids, retards with the normals. And for smart kids, it is sheer hell. Talk about a nightmare.

  26. @Jake
    Blacks get Affirmative Action in everything, and in certain areas, it is brutal.

    Our Elites intend it to go on forever, because that is the way to make the majority of white Gentiles into virtual serfs.

    Our Elites are worse than the Ancien Regime in mid- 18th century France.

    They all ganged up on the God-Emperor and reduced him to the barren Baron of Behren, 2nd Baron of Behren and, whereas barren, Last of His Imperial House.

    JFK was Last of His Imperial House, too.

    It’s easy for such lowly folk as I to harshly criticize most of his recent actions; this is not the Donald J. Trump that I voted for.

    But perhaps the Forces Arrayed Against Him are beyond the imagining of us mere mortals. Let us pray either to Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, or to the irrelevant fake tribal deity of your choice, for inner peace in this, “Our Tempestuous Day”.

    • Agree: Autochthon
  27. @Josh
    Maybe black teachers aren't as interested in the subject that they teach. I'm a history teacher. It's the greatest job in the world. Summers off, not particularly difficult nor stressful and I get to talk about history all day long. The principal just listens to parents whine. Granted he makes a little more money, but most of us teachers are the second income in our household. Come to think of it, perhaps blacks teachers are more likely to be the breadwinner of their family than similar white teachers. Obviously, there is major affirmative action, but there may be a couple of ther things going on.

    Incidentally, the principal at my old school was replaced by a black guy that did no command he respect of the faculty. Probably an iq below 100. Maybe well below. Really expensive suits and gold jewelry. I doubt it matters much. Principals don't seem like they have much to do with the education process in my experience.

    A lot of black principals in my experience are single or divorced. I mean more than half, which is a very high number for people in their 40s and beyond.

    An additional factor is, the concentration of black principals is similar to demographic voting patterns. Blacks vote overwhelmingly for Dems while whites lean only slightly to the right, with the most educated whites actually leaving left for whatever reason.

    Similarly, black schools are almost certain to have a black principal (90%+). A majority white school isn’t necessarily going to have a white principal. And there are many reasons why having at least a black asst principal is useful — virtual signaling, positive role model for the minorities, able to discipline minority students without seeming racist, etc. And since heavily white schools generally behave and test very well, there’s little harm to be done by having a black admin. In fact, an 80%+ white school can usually run itself even if there were no admins. The admin is a mere figurehead.

    • Replies: @FLgeezer
    >The admin is a mere figurehead.

    That is reason in and of itself to be thankful. And here we find one inexhaustible source of figureheads:

    https://nsunews.nova.edu/nova-southeastern-university-awards-most-doctoral-and-professional-degrees-to-minorities-in-nation/

    And coincidentally (LOL), said source imposes one of the highest debts per degree on its graduates:

    http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/news/nova-southeastern-university-ranks-third-in-the-nation-in-student-debt-burden-6453362

    Ya' pays your money and ya' gets your degree.
  28. @Robert Hume
    Blacks better able to, and less afraid to, discipline the mostly black trouble makers. Failure of Blacks to do better on tests less likely to be attributed to racism. Desirable role model. Probably no written test to pass for principal.

    There are tests to pass to get an admin I or II credential, but they are easy, much easier than the high school praxis tests for, say, physics or math.

    A lot of smart ppl get turned off by jumping through hoops to become an admin. In major cities, being in the pool to become an admin requires lots of busywork, “mentoring”, and boring “professional development”. It also requires being willing to take any open job, even if it’s on the other side of town, in a bad area, or has a bad reputation.

    • Replies: @Alden
    When the morbidly obese Jewish lesbian Marxist Jackie Goldberg was in the Los Angeles school board for years she proudly announced " from now on we will not be hiring or promoting Whites to administrative jobs"

    This was a long time ago when the black thug kids abused, bullied and harassed the White teachers while the liberal school administration looked on.

    Marxist, Lesbian, Jew, morbidly obese or non normativly bodied, that White hating witch Jackie Goldberg is a 4 way intersection and conjunction of liberalism.
  29. OT: I got a work email today about an opportunity to hear a “genderqueer LGBTQ+ activist” speak. “They has worked at a think tank. They is also…”

  30. The inclusion of teacher characteristics, school characteristics, and year fixed effects increases the odds ratio from 2.18 to 6.36

    .
    I am curious about this discrepancy, 2.18 vs. 6.36. What does it imply about black teachers as compared to the white one? Are white teachers three times more likely to reach a certain level of competency?

    • Replies: @fitzGetty
    ... and, we wonder what data was supressed in this study, what was left hidden and uninterpreted ...
    , @res
    Table 3 on page 44 gives more information about the models and the resulting odds ratios (note that the OR goes above 7 if either district or school fixed effects are added).

    The 2.18 to 6.36 change involves adding "school characteristics" and "year indicator variables." The added variables that are statistically significant are Age, Female, and Graduate Degree.

    Table 2 on page 43 gives more details on most of the variables. They are numerous and obvious enough that I don't want to summarize here.

    Note that the best model has a pseudo-R^2 of 0.57 (0.15 for the model that gives OR of 2.18, 0.41 for model that gives OR of 6.36)
    I'm not sure what pseudo-R^2 they used, but IMHO that's a good fit. For example, from a CrossValidated discussion: "A rule of thumb that I found to be quite helpful is that a McFadden's pseudo R-squared ranging from 0.2 to 0.4 indicates very good model fit."
    https://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/82105/mcfaddens-pseudo-r2-interpretation

    Concerning what it implies, Steve's headline is a good summary (it is great that iSteve is both honest and statistically literate, so few commentator/pundit types are either). Worth emphasizing that "similar teachers" means similar in both their own characteristics AND school environments for the 6.36+ OR models.

    The change in OR between the models implies (to me) that the underlying teacher characteristics are dissimilar AND that dissimilarity matters for the explanation of the difference by race (especially notice change in pseudo-R^2 for the latter).
  31. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Cagey Beast
    One cause for this might be the Boomers' love of pulling the ladder up behind them on the way out. White Boomers enjoyed their whiteness and/or maleness all the way through their professional life journey but, as they head off into the sunset, they like to make sure their successor is "a woman, preferably a woman of colour". That's been the pattern here in Canada with quite a few of our politicians. Will that same Lady Bountiful mentality carry on with White Gen Xers and Millennials? I doubt it. You can't fake that level of cynicism.

    One cause for this might be the Boomers’ love of pulling the ladder up behind them on the way out. White Boomers enjoyed their whiteness and/or maleness all the way through their professional life journey but, as they head off into the sunset, they like to make sure their successor is “a woman, preferably a woman of colour”. That’s been the pattern here in Canada with quite a few of our politicians. Will that same Lady Bountiful mentality carry on with White Gen Xers and Millennials? I doubt it. You can’t fake that level of cynicism.

    Perhaps they’re being forced to have a minority or woman as their successor.

    Alos, when did this bashing of Boomers get started? Am I the only one here who thinks it’s kind of stupid? Why divide people (Boomers vs. Gen Xers and Millennials) who could otherwise possibly be allies?

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Well those broad generational categories are used by advertisers to target us. Not surprisingly it's the Pepsi Generation, aka the Boomers who seem to have embraced that market research label as their own.

    In any case, if White, Boomer men don't want to be detested by us younger White men, then they should spend their remaining years being more like Rep. Steve King than like Charles Pierce and the rest:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu-LBS_kpDQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmDgEPi43ig

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3YPzd5-nVw

    Has any other generation of men behaved more shamefully toward those coming after them? I'm unable to think of any.

    , @Tulip
    Because the Boomers broke a perfectly good country in their misguided arrogance, and left future generations with a dysfunctional shit heap on the verge of civil war?
    , @Thea
    My boomer parents loved the neocon agenda. The Clinton/Bush world view resonated with them & their friends. We lived near Miami. They had a front row see to the decay before everyone else and cheered it on.

    Compound that with the art & culture of he 1980-1990s being worshipful of their every whim and it does not paint a pretty picture.

    I realize this is anecdotal but it has shaped my opinion of that generation negatively. I also realize it was the Silents who unleashed the beast of hedonism on the campuses in the 1960s. But the Boomers were bigger and could have resisted.

    , @Mr. Anon

    Alos, when did this bashing of Boomers get started? Am I the only one here who thinks it’s kind of stupid? Why divide people (Boomers vs. Gen Xers and Millennials) who could otherwise possibly be allies?
     
    Maybe. But a lot of people who came after the boomers seem to be developing a generally unfavorable opinion of them. I am a boomer myself (tail-end), and I am willing to concede that they might have a point. We inherited a great and prosperous country from the previous generation and what we will leave to the next generation doesn't seem nearly as good. It may not all be our fault. But maybe a lot of it is.
  32. @Anonymous
    Sounds like Scott Adams' Dilbert Principle. "The worst employees are invariably promoted to the place they'll do the least harm: management."

    Sounds like Scott Adams’ Dilbert Principle. “The worst employees are invariably promoted to the place they’ll do the least harm: management.”

    Wouldn’t firing them make more sense?

    • Replies: @Josh
    It's hard to fire teachers. It's impossible to fire black teachers.
  33. @Cagey Beast
    One cause for this might be the Boomers' love of pulling the ladder up behind them on the way out. White Boomers enjoyed their whiteness and/or maleness all the way through their professional life journey but, as they head off into the sunset, they like to make sure their successor is "a woman, preferably a woman of colour". That's been the pattern here in Canada with quite a few of our politicians. Will that same Lady Bountiful mentality carry on with White Gen Xers and Millennials? I doubt it. You can't fake that level of cynicism.

    Very true. I’ll never forget my university president’s speech when I started grad school, informing us of his sincerest wish that the DC policy community no longer “look like him.” Of course, he already has his — I didn’t see him offering up his posh sinecure. But in his great beneficence, he’s willing to sacrifice the socioeconomic aspirations of his younger struggling relatives. What could be more noble?

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

    But in his great beneficence, he’s willing to sacrifice the socioeconomic aspirations of his younger struggling relatives.
     
    Hypocrisy is the stock-in-trade of our "betters".
    , @Cagey Beast
    Exactly. The White Boomerman quote in my comment above was said by the former Liberal Party of Canada leader, Michael Ignatieff. He flew back to Canada from Harvard, ran for Prime Minister, said he hoped his successor would be “a woman, preferably a woman of colour” and then took a job running George Soros' Central European University. Must be nice.

    His successor was Justin Trudeau, so he kind of got his wish to come true.
  34. @Alden
    Back around 1970 I came up with this.

    "Women and minorities encouraged to apply" means only minority women will be hired.

    I'm glad to see something about the vicious discrimination against American Whites brought up on this thread instead of the endless foreign affairs.

    I’m glad to see something about the vicious discrimination against American Whites brought up on this thread

    And vicious it is indeed. The Fourteenth Amendment supposedly requires “equal protection of he laws,” but the perverse reality is that it has been distorted to justify virulent, pervasive, anti-white policies in both the public and private sectors. The White Man has become the Negro of the 21st century; he has been placed under legal, constitutional, and social disability, and forced to do the actual work upon which society depends while women, blacks, mulattoes and queers are given positions of honor, privilege and rank.

    A thoroughly disgusting situation. Can Whites remedy it in the current context, or must social collapse occur before a remedy is possible?

  35. Kinda funny show about two quasi-qualified vice principals who resent the big-city, two-faced black ball buster being hired instead of one of them. McBride’s character calls her out for being an affirmative action hire (behind her back) in episode one.

  36. @L Woods
    Very true. I'll never forget my university president's speech when I started grad school, informing us of his sincerest wish that the DC policy community no longer "look like him." Of course, he already has his -- I didn't see him offering up his posh sinecure. But in his great beneficence, he's willing to sacrifice the socioeconomic aspirations of his younger struggling relatives. What could be more noble?

    But in his great beneficence, he’s willing to sacrifice the socioeconomic aspirations of his younger struggling relatives.

    Hypocrisy is the stock-in-trade of our “betters”.

  37. Is the ongoing French election the final one? Because I’m beginning to smell a Trumpening. The polls supposedly have them neck and neck, and there are apparently huge numbers of “undecided” voters. Close polls + “Undecided” voters + candidate the elite hates and Big Media demonizes = watch out for Trumpening.

    • Replies: @res
    No. This is the first round followed by a runoff between the top two. The conventional wisdom has been that Le Pen gets a plurality initially then loses the runoff after all of the opponents supporters unite (I wonder if any of them will ever figure out that Le Pen may be more in line with their overall views).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_presidential_election,_2017

    I think your analysis of a "Trumpening" is on target for the first round. Here is 538's take (sound familiar? ; )
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-french-election-is-way-too-close-to-call/
    , @KenH
    I hope if LaPen wins she doesn't flip flop like Trump is. She seems to be made of sterner stuff and has a core set of beliefs unlike the Donny who changes with the wind and makes decisions based on Ivanka's tears or the best sales pitch.
  38. @Anonymous
    It would be interesting to compare marriage rates. Principal can be a demanding job. Are there more singles/divorced principals than in the teacher ranks?

    Who cares? The article is about affirmative action discrimination.

  39. @MBlanc46
    And those can't teach become principals.?

    Exactly!!!!!

  40. @Anonymous
    It would be interesting to compare marriage rates. Principal can be a demanding job. Are there more singles/divorced principals than in the teacher ranks?

    I’ve read so many stories about black principals demanding sex from female subordinates,makes ya wonder if they consider on demand lovin’ a normal perk of da job!

  41. @Jake
    Blacks get Affirmative Action in everything, and in certain areas, it is brutal.

    Our Elites intend it to go on forever, because that is the way to make the majority of white Gentiles into virtual serfs.

    Our Elites are worse than the Ancien Regime in mid- 18th century France.

    Blacks get Affirmative Action in everything

    The teaching profession doesn’t really offer affirmative action to blacks. The standardized testing for teaching credentials keeps most blacks out of the field. Recently the HBCU Lincoln University had to close its teacher preparation program because many of their students could not pass the Pennsylvania basic skills exam in reading, math, and writing that is necessary in order to take upper division education courses. LINK In Illinois only 17% of blacks were passing the Illinois exam required for admission into colleges of education. LINK

    Additionally in the last 15 years, programs like No Child Left Behind have forced thousands of black teachers from the teaching field. Teachers were punished for low test scores and black teachers who are most likely to teach black and Hispanic kids got punished the hardest.

    Education Realist has done several excellent articles on teacher certification. LINK

    Aside: Last year two married black middle school principals/assistant in Louisiana and Missouri murdered their pregnant black school teacher mistresses — four fewer blacks in education.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Tri, Isn't mayor Di Blasio in NYC proposing to hire 1000 minority teachers without them needing to pass the teacher's test? Swear I read that here. That would certainly qualify as Affirmative Action.
  42. @Auntie Analogue
    Looks like the Peter Principle on Affirmative Blacktion steroids.

    Perhaps schools, school districts, school boards, and local politicians favor having black principals for all the local "news" (cough-cough) "education" coverage that lets the schools show off black principals as "role models" and Diversity spokes-faces.

    Come to think of it, how did all the black principals and administrators work out in the Atlanta schools' grade-falsifying scandal?

    Peter Principle on Steroids indeed.
    Teaching is hard if you care, easy if you don’t. What many districts do, if a teacher 1-3 year in sucks, is they “promote” them to “curriculum coordinator” or some such term. It’s a way to keep them in the teachers union.
    Imagine being a Nice White Lady teacher with ten years experience who has a curriculum supervisor who is 1) a token and 2) sucks at the job
    Now imagine trying to sell valid solutions to schools: chip on the shoulder, single, fat, Af Am woman bureaucrat, over credentialed and licensed out the ass. But low IQ and unread. Deer in the headlight eyes or anger-just-because-they-have-no-idea-what-you’re- talking-about…
    If you’re white, wear a pick shirt to sell to black school admins. They think white guys in pink shirts are sexy. Heard this from a textbook sales guy. Hasn’t failed.

  43. @Hodag
    Confounders: High IQ blacks are attracted to government work. Also, really high status in the black community for that job. Also getting a bs PhD from the likes of Murray State, Chicago State etc is no barrier in the inner city.

    Even outside the ed industry so many BS
    Online MBAs and PhDs for blacks
    But they’re token and magical

  44. @Baltimore teacher
    There are tests to pass to get an admin I or II credential, but they are easy, much easier than the high school praxis tests for, say, physics or math.

    A lot of smart ppl get turned off by jumping through hoops to become an admin. In major cities, being in the pool to become an admin requires lots of busywork, "mentoring", and boring "professional development". It also requires being willing to take any open job, even if it's on the other side of town, in a bad area, or has a bad reputation.

    When the morbidly obese Jewish lesbian Marxist Jackie Goldberg was in the Los Angeles school board for years she proudly announced ” from now on we will not be hiring or promoting Whites to administrative jobs”

    This was a long time ago when the black thug kids abused, bullied and harassed the White teachers while the liberal school administration looked on.

    Marxist, Lesbian, Jew, morbidly obese or non normativly bodied, that White hating witch Jackie Goldberg is a 4 way intersection and conjunction of liberalism.

  45. @L Woods
    Very true. I'll never forget my university president's speech when I started grad school, informing us of his sincerest wish that the DC policy community no longer "look like him." Of course, he already has his -- I didn't see him offering up his posh sinecure. But in his great beneficence, he's willing to sacrifice the socioeconomic aspirations of his younger struggling relatives. What could be more noble?

    Exactly. The White Boomerman quote in my comment above was said by the former Liberal Party of Canada leader, Michael Ignatieff. He flew back to Canada from Harvard, ran for Prime Minister, said he hoped his successor would be “a woman, preferably a woman of colour” and then took a job running George Soros’ Central European University. Must be nice.

    His successor was Justin Trudeau, so he kind of got his wish to come true.

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    Coincidentally, Ignatieff is a liberal jew who just so happened to be an outspoken advocate for the invasion of Iraq.
  46. The ‘Peter Principle’ in the age of affirmative action.

    OT

    BBC — Serena Williams: Ilie Nastase heard making derogatory comment…Ilie Nastase, has been heard making a derogatory comment about Serena Williams’ unborn child…As Romanian player Simona Halep was answering a question in English about Williams’ pregnancy at Friday’s Fed Cup draw in Constanta, the 70-year-old turned to one of his other team members and added in Romanian: “Let’s see what colour it has. Chocolate with milk?”…A spokesman for the International Tennis Federation has told the BBC it is aware of the comments and has begun an immediate investigation.

    • Replies: @Alden
    What's to investigate? The guy said something stupid about a mixed race baby. Is his silly remark on CNN and msnbc 24/7 yet?
    Even I wouldn't say anything like that.
    Janet Jackson's half White baby boy is very White, he looks White.
  47. @Anonymous
    One cause for this might be the Boomers’ love of pulling the ladder up behind them on the way out. White Boomers enjoyed their whiteness and/or maleness all the way through their professional life journey but, as they head off into the sunset, they like to make sure their successor is “a woman, preferably a woman of colour”. That’s been the pattern here in Canada with quite a few of our politicians. Will that same Lady Bountiful mentality carry on with White Gen Xers and Millennials? I doubt it. You can’t fake that level of cynicism.

    Perhaps they're being forced to have a minority or woman as their successor.

    Alos, when did this bashing of Boomers get started? Am I the only one here who thinks it's kind of stupid? Why divide people (Boomers vs. Gen Xers and Millennials) who could otherwise possibly be allies?

    Well those broad generational categories are used by advertisers to target us. Not surprisingly it’s the Pepsi Generation, aka the Boomers who seem to have embraced that market research label as their own.

    In any case, if White, Boomer men don’t want to be detested by us younger White men, then they should spend their remaining years being more like Rep. Steve King than like Charles Pierce and the rest:

    Has any other generation of men behaved more shamefully toward those coming after them? I’m unable to think of any.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    "Has any other generation of men behaved more shamefully toward those coming after them?"

    I think you're being a little unfair to the Boomers.

    Michael Moore and his ilk are exceptions - exceptions who are given media exposure, approval, book and film deals, and publicity. A lot of other Boomers are the Deplorables, the old, racist, Stupid White Men who Moore attacks.

    What happens to the careers of Boomers who don't stick to the Narrative? You don't hear them any more, that's what (you may occasionally hear others denounce them).

    The Democratic Senate candidate is acting in his ethnic group interest, which isn't yours. His audience are probably big Michael Moore fans.

    Here in the UK you have a situation where the young, who've been weaned on state education, university, TV, Hollywood and social media, are the truest believers in what they've been taught, and the old, who can remember Elder Days Before The Fall, who are the realists.

    , @Buck Turgidson
    I noticed that no one had an answer to Steve King's very simple question. Put up or shut up, said Steve. Nothing except an emotional outburst. Steve didn't even say white, he said European and Christianity and western civilization. "Controversial" Representative Steve King. Outspoken maverick firebrand that he is. All in 30 seconds. He won't be sitting next to Chris Hayes again any time soon.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Well those broad generational categories are used by advertisers to target us.
     
    All the more reason not to adopt them ourselves.

    Not surprisingly it’s the Pepsi Generation, aka the Boomers who seem to have embraced that market research label as their own.
     
    Maybe in your country, but not in the US. Most of us about Steve's age wouldn't have heard the term until our 30s. (Steve himself was in marketing, so he no doubt would have been familiar with it earlier.)

    There was talk of a "baby boom", but that was a historical demographic event, not some kind of identity. As an identity, it's pretty stupid. In a headline, it basically says, "slow news day!"

    Pop marketing demographics infected spread to the general population starting in the 80s. Those born after 1970 seem to treat labels like "Gen X" and the ridiculous "millennial" as genuine identifiers.
  48. @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    Back in the 90s when the "peace dividend" meant that the Department of State and the Foreign Service was shrinking by attrition and had cancelled the Foreign Service Exam for a couple years when I might have been considering it, I happened to overhear a slimy middle aged Foreign Service Officer giving some informal advice to the young ladies who were taking part in a special mentoring program for women and minorities.

    The gist of his message: "Because whitemales already overwhelmingly dominate the ranks, they'll be trying to hire just women and minorities for years to come until the old guard retires and the numbers are more balanced."

    Right.

    Because what every woman who has aspirations for family wants to be redeployed every two years from some warzone hellhole to another.

    Bagdad, Kabul, Mogadishu, Ouagadougou, Benghazi here I come!

    That half the foreign service must be 50 percent women was the result of a commie feminazis lawsuit and federal judicial order around 1977. For some reason I was on the mailing list and kept getting letters about the ruling and how wonderful it was.

    I don’t know if state even gives the FSO exam any more. Maybe not as they just hire on race and anti American ideology now.

    Here is how they scored the exam to ensure no Whites passed. The test has several sections. Top score is 100. Failure is 69 and below.

    It’s called dichotomous averaging to achieve equality of ethnic means
    After a lot of putzing around they just subtract 20 points from the score of each White. So each White who got a true score of 89 and below fails

    Then they add 40 points to the true scores of the blacks. So a few of them get up to an adjusted score of 75 or 80 hurrah hurrah

    Black women who fail even after 40 points are added get hired anyway and are allowed 4 years to take the test and are extensively tutored during the work day while other people do their work.

    Last but not least, White women who got a high original score before the 20 points were deducted are classified as “White male profile” and moved to the White male recycling bin.

    Of course if a White applicant is like CIA chief Brennan and wrote in a communist for president that White is sure to be hired. Activism in BLM type organizations is the only way a White can get hired. A White woman who makes it to the interview should probably go to a Muslim clothing shop and get a shroud and scarf and shrink back if the men on the panel offer to shake hands.

    That’s affirmative action, going so far as to classify White women as White male profiles. And that was around 1980.

    Why don’t they just put Whites not eligible? No one is fooled when they walk into a government building and see not one White employee.

  49. Commentator Res? Are you kidding me?

    The last two times you wrote about black teachers and credential tests without mentioning me, I was mildly surprised. But this is just insulting.

    Me, back in September 2014, The Available Pool (using data from BLS, all by my own self):

    Then there’s my amazing perspicacity in predicting the overrepresentation of black education administrators. Pretty obvious, really. Districts can only practice affirmative action in teacher hiring to the extent they have black candidates. But administrative positions are wide open for affirmative action.

    Man. Have a nice day. Done here.

  50. Has any other generation of men behaved more shamefully toward those coming after them? I’m unable to think of any.

    They certainly haven’t seen to your education in history, have they? Ever hear of the Selective Service System (b. 1917) and the World Wars I, II, K and V which it enabled?

    You know what your hated “boomers” forgot to do? Draft you! Great-grandpa would have done so in a heartbeat.

    “It’d be good fer ya, sonny boy!”

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Firstly, I'm not American. Secondly, my paternal and maternal grandfathers and my maternal step-grandfather managed to get machine-gunned in WW1, killed in WW2 and survived WW2 and Korea respectively; all without getting conscripted (ie drafted). The two who survived to come home to Ireland and Canada did not spend their years virtue signalling to women and ethnic minorities and giving away the younger men's jobs and country. I'd have traded a return of the draft for loyal elders any day.
    , @Mr. Anon
    Yes, you do have a point there.
  51. @eah
    The 'Peter Principle' in the age of affirmative action.

    OT

    BBC -- Serena Williams: Ilie Nastase heard making derogatory comment -- ...Ilie Nastase, has been heard making a derogatory comment about Serena Williams' unborn child...As Romanian player Simona Halep was answering a question in English about Williams' pregnancy at Friday's Fed Cup draw in Constanta, the 70-year-old turned to one of his other team members and added in Romanian: "Let's see what colour it has. Chocolate with milk?"...A spokesman for the International Tennis Federation has told the BBC it is aware of the comments and has begun an immediate investigation.

    https://twitter.com/anarchohindu/status/829382318208983040

    What’s to investigate? The guy said something stupid about a mixed race baby. Is his silly remark on CNN and msnbc 24/7 yet?
    Even I wouldn’t say anything like that.
    Janet Jackson’s half White baby boy is very White, he looks White.

  52. The real reason the SPLC won’t hire blacks is that they’re way overpaid for their talent levels. Morris didn’t amass a half-billion by being loose with the change.

    There are only so many tokens to go around. Hence the salary inflation.

    Patrick Cleburne at Vdare.com often points out that the SPLC staff, heavily Jewish, is quite underpaid considering. That market is flooded.

  53. @Reg Cæsar

    Has any other generation of men behaved more shamefully toward those coming after them? I’m unable to think of any.
     
    They certainly haven't seen to your education in history, have they? Ever hear of the Selective Service System (b. 1917) and the World Wars I, II, K and V which it enabled?

    You know what your hated "boomers" forgot to do? Draft you! Great-grandpa would have done so in a heartbeat.

    "It'd be good fer ya, sonny boy!"

    Firstly, I’m not American. Secondly, my paternal and maternal grandfathers and my maternal step-grandfather managed to get machine-gunned in WW1, killed in WW2 and survived WW2 and Korea respectively; all without getting conscripted (ie drafted). The two who survived to come home to Ireland and Canada did not spend their years virtue signalling to women and ethnic minorities and giving away the younger men’s jobs and country. I’d have traded a return of the draft for loyal elders any day.

  54. In Illinois only 17% of blacks were passing the Illinois exam required for admission into colleges of education.

    Hmm. 17%. So, like, about 1 standard deviation plus above the median of a normal distribution.

    Once again the Fundamental Constant of (American) Sociology. (Link: Steve Sailer on La Griffe du Lion.)

    • Replies: @Triumph104
    Blacks are unaware of their academic limitations. They don't take exams for government jobs in hopes of winning a class-action lawsuit - at best only 17-18% of blacks are qualified for any given profession requiring book learning.

    Before taking the ACT exam students are asked their intended major. Here is a sample of intended majors and the percentage of blacks who met all four benchmarks of college readiness (English, reading, math, and science). Unfortunately not enough kids picked teaching/education as an intended major.

    Nursing, Registered (BS/RN) - 2%
    Medicine (Pre-Medicine) - 18%
    Medical Assisting - 1%
    Law - 7%
    Pharmacy - 9%
    Mechanical Engineering - 10%
    Computer Science and Programming - 17%
    Biochemistry and Biophysics - 18%

    The chart is on printed page 12 of the pdf.
    http://equityinlearning.act.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/2015-african-american.pdf

    Here is the data for everyone else but whites.
    http://equityinlearning.act.org/research/
  55. “So black teachers are more than 6 times as likely to become school principals as similar white teachers.”

    Wonkish caveat: odd ratios are not risk ratios – that is, odds ratios of 6 do not mean that something is 6 times as likely.

    Under some circumstances, however, odds ratios are a good proxy for risk ratios. This isn’t exactly my speciality, but a quick glance at figure 2 in this paper:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1112884/

    suggests the true risk ratio in this case is perhaps in the region of 5, rather than 6 (because becoming a principal is an unlikely event).

    • Replies: @academic gossip

    suggests the true risk ratio in this case is perhaps in the region of 5, rather than 6 (because becoming a principal is an unlikely event).
     
    A 5x improvement in chances (from a 6x odds ratio) is equivalent to having about 1/30 of teachers, and 1 in 6 black teachers, promoted to principals. Sounds a bit high as a rate of promotion, but if true would mean a noticeable brain-drain on the already limited supply of black teaches.
  56. @Dennis Dale
    Maybe the first television cliche of which I became aware (that or the Black Police Chief) is the Black High School Principal.
    The Comedy Central satire of after school specials, Strangers With Candy, based in a high school, featured a bald, baritone-voiced Principal Blackman. When asked about the name, somebody said they had decided to cast the stereotypical black guy in the role, so in the early draft of the script the part read "Black Man". When looking for a name they decided to just go with that.

    It’s similar to the hate hoax phenomenon. Demand exceeds supply.

    People want it to be true that black people make wonderful principals, inspiring police chiefs, competent civil servants etc. So if one comes along who is halfway qualified, they will get the job.

    Another reason is that culture rewards ‘subversion’ in art and life. ‘Subverting’ reality is seen as a positive thing, whilst describing reality is seen as vulgar.

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BaldBlackLeaderGuy

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlackAndNerdy

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlackBossLady

  57. @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    Back in the 90s when the "peace dividend" meant that the Department of State and the Foreign Service was shrinking by attrition and had cancelled the Foreign Service Exam for a couple years when I might have been considering it, I happened to overhear a slimy middle aged Foreign Service Officer giving some informal advice to the young ladies who were taking part in a special mentoring program for women and minorities.

    The gist of his message: "Because whitemales already overwhelmingly dominate the ranks, they'll be trying to hire just women and minorities for years to come until the old guard retires and the numbers are more balanced."

    Right.

    Because what every woman who has aspirations for family wants to be redeployed every two years from some warzone hellhole to another.

    Bagdad, Kabul, Mogadishu, Ouagadougou, Benghazi here I come!

    Ouagadougou? I had to look that one up.

  58. Anonymous [AKA "Trope Tropeson"] says:
    @Dennis Dale
    Maybe the first television cliche of which I became aware (that or the Black Police Chief) is the Black High School Principal.
    The Comedy Central satire of after school specials, Strangers With Candy, based in a high school, featured a bald, baritone-voiced Principal Blackman. When asked about the name, somebody said they had decided to cast the stereotypical black guy in the role, so in the early draft of the script the part read "Black Man". When looking for a name they decided to just go with that.

    “Hold it right there at the border, mi muchacho! Last time I checked, this dance wasn’t accepting green cards from los estudiantes nuevos!”

  59. @Cagey Beast
    Well those broad generational categories are used by advertisers to target us. Not surprisingly it's the Pepsi Generation, aka the Boomers who seem to have embraced that market research label as their own.

    In any case, if White, Boomer men don't want to be detested by us younger White men, then they should spend their remaining years being more like Rep. Steve King than like Charles Pierce and the rest:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu-LBS_kpDQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmDgEPi43ig

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3YPzd5-nVw

    Has any other generation of men behaved more shamefully toward those coming after them? I'm unable to think of any.

    “Has any other generation of men behaved more shamefully toward those coming after them?”

    I think you’re being a little unfair to the Boomers.

    Michael Moore and his ilk are exceptions – exceptions who are given media exposure, approval, book and film deals, and publicity. A lot of other Boomers are the Deplorables, the old, racist, Stupid White Men who Moore attacks.

    What happens to the careers of Boomers who don’t stick to the Narrative? You don’t hear them any more, that’s what (you may occasionally hear others denounce them).

    The Democratic Senate candidate is acting in his ethnic group interest, which isn’t yours. His audience are probably big Michael Moore fans.

    Here in the UK you have a situation where the young, who’ve been weaned on state education, university, TV, Hollywood and social media, are the truest believers in what they’ve been taught, and the old, who can remember Elder Days Before The Fall, who are the realists.

  60. @tyrone
    a big mouth and a fearsome reputation can go a long way.

    I had an Army buddy who with his wife became public school teachers. They taught on Treasure Island in the San Francisco Bay.

    Like Steve, I’m tall. I’m 6’4″ but unlike Steve I’m husky. So I’m a lot bigger than the average teacher or student. Both of my teacher friends claimed that if I went to work for the school district I would be in great demand as a School Principal. They seemed to think that the only qualification to be a High School principal was to be imposing.

    I don’t know if this is a common perception. I can’t imagine being a Principal. I taught math and computer science courses at the college level. I always loved to teach but I always avoided school administration. Being a School Principal is being a disciplinarian hulk. It has nothing to do with education.

    Or at least that was always my impression. So it doesn’t surprise me that blacks prosper in this kind of distasteful job.

  61. It would be very interesting if someone examined the cognitive top 10% of African Americans in comparison to a sample of American whites with a comparable cognitive profile.

    As usual, claiming this finding regarding school principals is evidence of reverse racial discrimination is as inchoate as most leftist accounts of racial discrimination.

    It could be that the cognitive profile of Blacks entering the teaching profession is higher than that of whites, and so the pattern is not “problematic” at all. It may be a function of greater political savvy on the part of Black would-be administrators. I would be surprised if affirmative action had no role in the story, but equally surprised if that were the sole or even primary cause of this racial “anomaly”.

  62. @Anonymous
    One cause for this might be the Boomers’ love of pulling the ladder up behind them on the way out. White Boomers enjoyed their whiteness and/or maleness all the way through their professional life journey but, as they head off into the sunset, they like to make sure their successor is “a woman, preferably a woman of colour”. That’s been the pattern here in Canada with quite a few of our politicians. Will that same Lady Bountiful mentality carry on with White Gen Xers and Millennials? I doubt it. You can’t fake that level of cynicism.

    Perhaps they're being forced to have a minority or woman as their successor.

    Alos, when did this bashing of Boomers get started? Am I the only one here who thinks it's kind of stupid? Why divide people (Boomers vs. Gen Xers and Millennials) who could otherwise possibly be allies?

    Because the Boomers broke a perfectly good country in their misguided arrogance, and left future generations with a dysfunctional shit heap on the verge of civil war?

    • Replies: @Bill
    The oldest boomer was 20 in 1965. They had little to do with wrecking the country. They were inserted into the maelstrom by their parents. Pursuing our fetish for naming things after their opposites, we call their parents "the Greatest Generation."
  63. @inertial

    The inclusion of teacher characteristics, school characteristics, and year fixed effects increases the odds ratio from 2.18 to 6.36
     
    .
    I am curious about this discrepancy, 2.18 vs. 6.36. What does it imply about black teachers as compared to the white one? Are white teachers three times more likely to reach a certain level of competency?

    … and, we wonder what data was supressed in this study, what was left hidden and uninterpreted …

  64. Police Chief

    Ever notice that whenever some local madness somewhere – anywhere – in the country has the nation’s attention to the degree that The Police Chief shows up on TV he is Always Black.

    Affirmative action for the presidency is fine, otherwise we’d give it to some random multi-millionaire or other, but Police Chiefs actually matter and they should be appointed on their merits alone.

  65. @Cagey Beast
    Well those broad generational categories are used by advertisers to target us. Not surprisingly it's the Pepsi Generation, aka the Boomers who seem to have embraced that market research label as their own.

    In any case, if White, Boomer men don't want to be detested by us younger White men, then they should spend their remaining years being more like Rep. Steve King than like Charles Pierce and the rest:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu-LBS_kpDQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmDgEPi43ig

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3YPzd5-nVw

    Has any other generation of men behaved more shamefully toward those coming after them? I'm unable to think of any.

    I noticed that no one had an answer to Steve King’s very simple question. Put up or shut up, said Steve. Nothing except an emotional outburst. Steve didn’t even say white, he said European and Christianity and western civilization. “Controversial” Representative Steve King. Outspoken maverick firebrand that he is. All in 30 seconds. He won’t be sitting next to Chris Hayes again any time soon.

  66. @Anonymous
    Sounds like Scott Adams’ Dilbert Principle. “The worst employees are invariably promoted to the place they’ll do the least harm: management.”

    Wouldn't firing them make more sense?

    It’s hard to fire teachers. It’s impossible to fire black teachers.

  67. @Cagey Beast
    One cause for this might be the Boomers' love of pulling the ladder up behind them on the way out. White Boomers enjoyed their whiteness and/or maleness all the way through their professional life journey but, as they head off into the sunset, they like to make sure their successor is "a woman, preferably a woman of colour". That's been the pattern here in Canada with quite a few of our politicians. Will that same Lady Bountiful mentality carry on with White Gen Xers and Millennials? I doubt it. You can't fake that level of cynicism.

    Very well put. The same aging (white) boomers who feel pride that they deny white people opportunities for advancement also act perplexed that their sons and daughters (collectively) aren’t doing as well as them at their respective stages in life. They don’t see the connection that anti-white hiring practices means that white people are doing less well overall. But hey, whatever makes them feel good as they walk out the door, that’s all that matters.

  68. @LemmusLemmus
    "So black teachers are more than 6 times as likely to become school principals as similar white teachers."

    Wonkish caveat: odd ratios are not risk ratios - that is, odds ratios of 6 do not mean that something is 6 times as likely.

    Under some circumstances, however, odds ratios are a good proxy for risk ratios. This isn't exactly my speciality, but a quick glance at figure 2 in this paper:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1112884/

    suggests the true risk ratio in this case is perhaps in the region of 5, rather than 6 (because becoming a principal is an unlikely event).

    suggests the true risk ratio in this case is perhaps in the region of 5, rather than 6 (because becoming a principal is an unlikely event).

    A 5x improvement in chances (from a 6x odds ratio) is equivalent to having about 1/30 of teachers, and 1 in 6 black teachers, promoted to principals. Sounds a bit high as a rate of promotion, but if true would mean a noticeable brain-drain on the already limited supply of black teaches.

  69. @Baltimore teacher
    A lot of black principals in my experience are single or divorced. I mean more than half, which is a very high number for people in their 40s and beyond.

    An additional factor is, the concentration of black principals is similar to demographic voting patterns. Blacks vote overwhelmingly for Dems while whites lean only slightly to the right, with the most educated whites actually leaving left for whatever reason.

    Similarly, black schools are almost certain to have a black principal (90%+). A majority white school isn't necessarily going to have a white principal. And there are many reasons why having at least a black asst principal is useful -- virtual signaling, positive role model for the minorities, able to discipline minority students without seeming racist, etc. And since heavily white schools generally behave and test very well, there's little harm to be done by having a black admin. In fact, an 80%+ white school can usually run itself even if there were no admins. The admin is a mere figurehead.

    >The admin is a mere figurehead.

    That is reason in and of itself to be thankful. And here we find one inexhaustible source of figureheads:

    https://nsunews.nova.edu/nova-southeastern-university-awards-most-doctoral-and-professional-degrees-to-minorities-in-nation/

    And coincidentally (LOL), said source imposes one of the highest debts per degree on its graduates:

    http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/news/nova-southeastern-university-ranks-third-in-the-nation-in-student-debt-burden-6453362

    Ya’ pays your money and ya’ gets your degree.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    Thanks for those two Nova Southeastern University links........ America's number one diploma mill for minorities from undergrad to PhD
  70. @Anonymous
    One cause for this might be the Boomers’ love of pulling the ladder up behind them on the way out. White Boomers enjoyed their whiteness and/or maleness all the way through their professional life journey but, as they head off into the sunset, they like to make sure their successor is “a woman, preferably a woman of colour”. That’s been the pattern here in Canada with quite a few of our politicians. Will that same Lady Bountiful mentality carry on with White Gen Xers and Millennials? I doubt it. You can’t fake that level of cynicism.

    Perhaps they're being forced to have a minority or woman as their successor.

    Alos, when did this bashing of Boomers get started? Am I the only one here who thinks it's kind of stupid? Why divide people (Boomers vs. Gen Xers and Millennials) who could otherwise possibly be allies?

    My boomer parents loved the neocon agenda. The Clinton/Bush world view resonated with them & their friends. We lived near Miami. They had a front row see to the decay before everyone else and cheered it on.

    Compound that with the art & culture of he 1980-1990s being worshipful of their every whim and it does not paint a pretty picture.

    I realize this is anecdotal but it has shaped my opinion of that generation negatively. I also realize it was the Silents who unleashed the beast of hedonism on the campuses in the 1960s. But the Boomers were bigger and could have resisted.

  71. Man. Have a nice day. Done here.

    Your tears are delicious.

    Seriously though, don’t take it so personally. It’s only the Internet.

  72. @Cagey Beast
    Well those broad generational categories are used by advertisers to target us. Not surprisingly it's the Pepsi Generation, aka the Boomers who seem to have embraced that market research label as their own.

    In any case, if White, Boomer men don't want to be detested by us younger White men, then they should spend their remaining years being more like Rep. Steve King than like Charles Pierce and the rest:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu-LBS_kpDQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmDgEPi43ig

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3YPzd5-nVw

    Has any other generation of men behaved more shamefully toward those coming after them? I'm unable to think of any.

    Well those broad generational categories are used by advertisers to target us.

    All the more reason not to adopt them ourselves.

    Not surprisingly it’s the Pepsi Generation, aka the Boomers who seem to have embraced that market research label as their own.

    Maybe in your country, but not in the US. Most of us about Steve’s age wouldn’t have heard the term until our 30s. (Steve himself was in marketing, so he no doubt would have been familiar with it earlier.)

    There was talk of a “baby boom”, but that was a historical demographic event, not some kind of identity. As an identity, it’s pretty stupid. In a headline, it basically says, “slow news day!”

    Pop marketing demographics infected spread to the general population starting in the 80s. Those born after 1970 seem to treat labels like “Gen X” and the ridiculous “millennial” as genuine identifiers.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    That's from Strauss and Howe.
  73. @Reg Cæsar

    Well those broad generational categories are used by advertisers to target us.
     
    All the more reason not to adopt them ourselves.

    Not surprisingly it’s the Pepsi Generation, aka the Boomers who seem to have embraced that market research label as their own.
     
    Maybe in your country, but not in the US. Most of us about Steve's age wouldn't have heard the term until our 30s. (Steve himself was in marketing, so he no doubt would have been familiar with it earlier.)

    There was talk of a "baby boom", but that was a historical demographic event, not some kind of identity. As an identity, it's pretty stupid. In a headline, it basically says, "slow news day!"

    Pop marketing demographics infected spread to the general population starting in the 80s. Those born after 1970 seem to treat labels like "Gen X" and the ridiculous "millennial" as genuine identifiers.

    That’s from Strauss and Howe.

  74. @Veracitor
    Our friend Education Realist has been writing about this phenomenon for years. Ed points out that teacher certification tests limit the degree of affirmative discrimination possible in new-teacher hiring, but that promotion to admin jobs is AA all the way.

    Of course it is outrageous for all the usual reasons.

    Good point. Here is a recent blog post which includes some more numbers for black administrators and principals: https://educationrealist.wordpress.com/2017/02/28/oh-woe-no-teachers-of-color/

  75. In 2004, 41.3% of all black doctorates were in education. Education Realist can attack me all she wants, but most teachers are just not that bright, most education majors are dumber than other undergraduates, and most Negro teachers are dumber than White teachers. I worked a summer for the American Federation of Teachers, back when I still retained most of my liberal upbringing. I still remember my shock at the fundamental spelling and grammar mistakes contained in the letters I had to read, as well as the difficulty I had understanding those Negro teachers who called. There were literal examples of “I is a Phd” from Negroes, and I was quietly told this was par for the course.

    As an aside, that’s the summer I met Linda Chavez – no wonder she thought she was a conservative, given the overall vibes of the AFT. The individual I worked for also introduced me to now president Randi Weingarten, whom she absolutely loathed, partly because of the way Weingarten restricted others’ access to Albert Shanker, who my boss had known from their years as teachers.

  76. @inertial

    The inclusion of teacher characteristics, school characteristics, and year fixed effects increases the odds ratio from 2.18 to 6.36
     
    .
    I am curious about this discrepancy, 2.18 vs. 6.36. What does it imply about black teachers as compared to the white one? Are white teachers three times more likely to reach a certain level of competency?

    Table 3 on page 44 gives more information about the models and the resulting odds ratios (note that the OR goes above 7 if either district or school fixed effects are added).

    The 2.18 to 6.36 change involves adding “school characteristics” and “year indicator variables.” The added variables that are statistically significant are Age, Female, and Graduate Degree.

    Table 2 on page 43 gives more details on most of the variables. They are numerous and obvious enough that I don’t want to summarize here.

    Note that the best model has a pseudo-R^2 of 0.57 (0.15 for the model that gives OR of 2.18, 0.41 for model that gives OR of 6.36)
    I’m not sure what pseudo-R^2 they used, but IMHO that’s a good fit. For example, from a CrossValidated discussion: “A rule of thumb that I found to be quite helpful is that a McFadden’s pseudo R-squared ranging from 0.2 to 0.4 indicates very good model fit.”
    https://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/82105/mcfaddens-pseudo-r2-interpretation

    Concerning what it implies, Steve’s headline is a good summary (it is great that iSteve is both honest and statistically literate, so few commentator/pundit types are either). Worth emphasizing that “similar teachers” means similar in both their own characteristics AND school environments for the 6.36+ OR models.

    The change in OR between the models implies (to me) that the underlying teacher characteristics are dissimilar AND that dissimilarity matters for the explanation of the difference by race (especially notice change in pseudo-R^2 for the latter).

  77. @Svigor
    Is the ongoing French election the final one? Because I'm beginning to smell a Trumpening. The polls supposedly have them neck and neck, and there are apparently huge numbers of "undecided" voters. Close polls + "Undecided" voters + candidate the elite hates and Big Media demonizes = watch out for Trumpening.

    No. This is the first round followed by a runoff between the top two. The conventional wisdom has been that Le Pen gets a plurality initially then loses the runoff after all of the opponents supporters unite (I wonder if any of them will ever figure out that Le Pen may be more in line with their overall views).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_presidential_election,_2017

    I think your analysis of a “Trumpening” is on target for the first round. Here is 538’s take (sound familiar? ; )
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-french-election-is-way-too-close-to-call/

  78. @Veracitor

    In Illinois only 17% of blacks were passing the Illinois exam required for admission into colleges of education.
     
    Hmm. 17%. So, like, about 1 standard deviation plus above the median of a normal distribution.

    Once again the Fundamental Constant of (American) Sociology. (Link: Steve Sailer on La Griffe du Lion.)

    Blacks are unaware of their academic limitations. They don’t take exams for government jobs in hopes of winning a class-action lawsuit – at best only 17-18% of blacks are qualified for any given profession requiring book learning.

    Before taking the ACT exam students are asked their intended major. Here is a sample of intended majors and the percentage of blacks who met all four benchmarks of college readiness (English, reading, math, and science). Unfortunately not enough kids picked teaching/education as an intended major.

    Nursing, Registered (BS/RN) – 2%
    Medicine (Pre-Medicine) – 18%
    Medical Assisting – 1%
    Law – 7%
    Pharmacy – 9%
    Mechanical Engineering – 10%
    Computer Science and Programming – 17%
    Biochemistry and Biophysics – 18%

    The chart is on printed page 12 of the pdf.
    http://equityinlearning.act.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/2015-african-american.pdf

    Here is the data for everyone else but whites.
    http://equityinlearning.act.org/research/

    • Replies: @res
    That's a really interesting report. Thanks. I'm fascinated by how different some majors are for perception vs. reality (e.g. pre-med vs. nursing above, a good proportion of pre-meds actually meet the benchmark). On reflection, perhaps that is not surprising. I wonder how many of the potential pre-meds would meet a reasonable benchmark for making it through the whole process of becoming a doctor (higher bar than college readiness IMHO).

    I'm surprised teaching/education did not make the top 30 intended majors. It looks like education majors have decreased all around: http://neatoday.org/2016/03/15/future-teachers-at-all-time-low/
  79. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden
    Back around 1970 I came up with this.

    "Women and minorities encouraged to apply" means only minority women will be hired.

    I'm glad to see something about the vicious discrimination against American Whites brought up on this thread instead of the endless foreign affairs.

    “Women and minorities encouraged to apply” means only minority women will be hired.

    No, they’re still fond of hiring women, at least ahead of white men. But yes, if a NAM racial minority is at least qualified for the position (not the best candidate of the pool, just appears to be sufficiently qualified), they’ll be snatched up ahead of white women, and white women ahead of white men.

    Libs need to keep white women in the ‘diversity’ beneficiary pool, at least enough so to prevent them from feeling significantly discriminated against. It’s really the only way the whole thing works. Without that, they lack the numbers to pull off anything politically.

  80. @Triumph104
    Blacks are unaware of their academic limitations. They don't take exams for government jobs in hopes of winning a class-action lawsuit - at best only 17-18% of blacks are qualified for any given profession requiring book learning.

    Before taking the ACT exam students are asked their intended major. Here is a sample of intended majors and the percentage of blacks who met all four benchmarks of college readiness (English, reading, math, and science). Unfortunately not enough kids picked teaching/education as an intended major.

    Nursing, Registered (BS/RN) - 2%
    Medicine (Pre-Medicine) - 18%
    Medical Assisting - 1%
    Law - 7%
    Pharmacy - 9%
    Mechanical Engineering - 10%
    Computer Science and Programming - 17%
    Biochemistry and Biophysics - 18%

    The chart is on printed page 12 of the pdf.
    http://equityinlearning.act.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/2015-african-american.pdf

    Here is the data for everyone else but whites.
    http://equityinlearning.act.org/research/

    That’s a really interesting report. Thanks. I’m fascinated by how different some majors are for perception vs. reality (e.g. pre-med vs. nursing above, a good proportion of pre-meds actually meet the benchmark). On reflection, perhaps that is not surprising. I wonder how many of the potential pre-meds would meet a reasonable benchmark for making it through the whole process of becoming a doctor (higher bar than college readiness IMHO).

    I’m surprised teaching/education did not make the top 30 intended majors. It looks like education majors have decreased all around: http://neatoday.org/2016/03/15/future-teachers-at-all-time-low/

  81. @Anonymous
    Sounds like Scott Adams' Dilbert Principle. "The worst employees are invariably promoted to the place they'll do the least harm: management."

    Except management is usually where they can do the most harm.

  82. @Anonymous
    One cause for this might be the Boomers’ love of pulling the ladder up behind them on the way out. White Boomers enjoyed their whiteness and/or maleness all the way through their professional life journey but, as they head off into the sunset, they like to make sure their successor is “a woman, preferably a woman of colour”. That’s been the pattern here in Canada with quite a few of our politicians. Will that same Lady Bountiful mentality carry on with White Gen Xers and Millennials? I doubt it. You can’t fake that level of cynicism.

    Perhaps they're being forced to have a minority or woman as their successor.

    Alos, when did this bashing of Boomers get started? Am I the only one here who thinks it's kind of stupid? Why divide people (Boomers vs. Gen Xers and Millennials) who could otherwise possibly be allies?

    Alos, when did this bashing of Boomers get started? Am I the only one here who thinks it’s kind of stupid? Why divide people (Boomers vs. Gen Xers and Millennials) who could otherwise possibly be allies?

    Maybe. But a lot of people who came after the boomers seem to be developing a generally unfavorable opinion of them. I am a boomer myself (tail-end), and I am willing to concede that they might have a point. We inherited a great and prosperous country from the previous generation and what we will leave to the next generation doesn’t seem nearly as good. It may not all be our fault. But maybe a lot of it is.

  83. @Reg Cæsar

    Has any other generation of men behaved more shamefully toward those coming after them? I’m unable to think of any.
     
    They certainly haven't seen to your education in history, have they? Ever hear of the Selective Service System (b. 1917) and the World Wars I, II, K and V which it enabled?

    You know what your hated "boomers" forgot to do? Draft you! Great-grandpa would have done so in a heartbeat.

    "It'd be good fer ya, sonny boy!"

    Yes, you do have a point there.

    • Replies: @David F.
    Only very indirectly. Draftees were an utter disaster in Vietnam. They nearly wrecked the Marine Corps. The draft provoked massive Boomer protest and demoralizing public division over the war and helped bring down LBJ.
    Vietnam (and Boomers) killed the draft in the '70s. All our wars since have been carefully managed not to put any obvious burden on the non-military population.
  84. @Triumph104

    Blacks get Affirmative Action in everything
     
    The teaching profession doesn't really offer affirmative action to blacks. The standardized testing for teaching credentials keeps most blacks out of the field. Recently the HBCU Lincoln University had to close its teacher preparation program because many of their students could not pass the Pennsylvania basic skills exam in reading, math, and writing that is necessary in order to take upper division education courses. LINK In Illinois only 17% of blacks were passing the Illinois exam required for admission into colleges of education. LINK

    Additionally in the last 15 years, programs like No Child Left Behind have forced thousands of black teachers from the teaching field. Teachers were punished for low test scores and black teachers who are most likely to teach black and Hispanic kids got punished the hardest.

    Education Realist has done several excellent articles on teacher certification. LINK

    Aside: Last year two married black middle school principals/assistant in Louisiana and Missouri murdered their pregnant black school teacher mistresses -- four fewer blacks in education.

    Tri, Isn’t mayor Di Blasio in NYC proposing to hire 1000 minority teachers without them needing to pass the teacher’s test? Swear I read that here. That would certainly qualify as Affirmative Action.

  85. @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    Back in the 90s when the "peace dividend" meant that the Department of State and the Foreign Service was shrinking by attrition and had cancelled the Foreign Service Exam for a couple years when I might have been considering it, I happened to overhear a slimy middle aged Foreign Service Officer giving some informal advice to the young ladies who were taking part in a special mentoring program for women and minorities.

    The gist of his message: "Because whitemales already overwhelmingly dominate the ranks, they'll be trying to hire just women and minorities for years to come until the old guard retires and the numbers are more balanced."

    Right.

    Because what every woman who has aspirations for family wants to be redeployed every two years from some warzone hellhole to another.

    Bagdad, Kabul, Mogadishu, Ouagadougou, Benghazi here I come!

    When I interviewed with the Foreign Service, with a cultural and family interest in the Court of St. James ‘s or the Quai d’Orasy, their unsubtle message was that those spots were allocated to connected people, as in grad pedigrees showing Harvard, Tufts or Johns Hopkins. The outsiders could look forward to stamping visa applications in Central America. No, thanks. That was one of many glimpses at a deepish state.

  86. @Svigor
    Is the ongoing French election the final one? Because I'm beginning to smell a Trumpening. The polls supposedly have them neck and neck, and there are apparently huge numbers of "undecided" voters. Close polls + "Undecided" voters + candidate the elite hates and Big Media demonizes = watch out for Trumpening.

    I hope if LaPen wins she doesn’t flip flop like Trump is. She seems to be made of sterner stuff and has a core set of beliefs unlike the Donny who changes with the wind and makes decisions based on Ivanka’s tears or the best sales pitch.

    • Replies: @L Woods
    Does she? She didn't seem to think much of throwing her more stalwart father under the bus.
  87. @KenH
    I hope if LaPen wins she doesn't flip flop like Trump is. She seems to be made of sterner stuff and has a core set of beliefs unlike the Donny who changes with the wind and makes decisions based on Ivanka's tears or the best sales pitch.

    Does she? She didn’t seem to think much of throwing her more stalwart father under the bus.

    • Replies: @KenH
    That is true and I forgot about that. She's been open about broadening the party's message but she does appear to have been consistent on her "France for the French" message. She just stepped down as president of the National Front to focus on the presidency and broadening the message further which she probably has no choice in doing since the other parties will gang up on her.

    But so many Western leaders have betrayed us or "evolved" over the years that for all I know she could be shouting "Allahu Akbar" by sometime next week.
  88. Two ways to get rid of incompetents.

    Demote or promote.

    By demoting, you give em lower jobs where they can’t do much damage.

    By promoting, you put them in position to talk pompously while leaving the real work to others.

    Bromotion.

    • Replies: @res
    But remember that if we are talking about anyone in a "victim class" demoting or firing leads to a lawsuit. Whereas promoting leads to improved statistics for victim class representation.
  89. @Anon
    Two ways to get rid of incompetents.

    Demote or promote.

    By demoting, you give em lower jobs where they can't do much damage.

    By promoting, you put them in position to talk pompously while leaving the real work to others.

    Bromotion.

    But remember that if we are talking about anyone in a “victim class” demoting or firing leads to a lawsuit. Whereas promoting leads to improved statistics for victim class representation.

  90. @FLgeezer
    >The admin is a mere figurehead.

    That is reason in and of itself to be thankful. And here we find one inexhaustible source of figureheads:

    https://nsunews.nova.edu/nova-southeastern-university-awards-most-doctoral-and-professional-degrees-to-minorities-in-nation/

    And coincidentally (LOL), said source imposes one of the highest debts per degree on its graduates:

    http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/news/nova-southeastern-university-ranks-third-in-the-nation-in-student-debt-burden-6453362

    Ya' pays your money and ya' gets your degree.

    Thanks for those two Nova Southeastern University links…….. America’s number one diploma mill for minorities from undergrad to PhD

    • Replies: @Triumph104
    To get even more specific, the online for-profit Walden University awards the most doctorates to blacks. From 2011 to 2015 Walden awarded 682 doctorates to blacks compared to second-place Howard University which only awarded 354. In 2015, one-twelfth of black doctoral recipients earned their degrees from Walden, compared to less than 1 in 100 in 2002.

    http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/02/online-university-leads-united-states-awarding-doctorates-blacks
  91. @Tulip
    Because the Boomers broke a perfectly good country in their misguided arrogance, and left future generations with a dysfunctional shit heap on the verge of civil war?

    The oldest boomer was 20 in 1965. They had little to do with wrecking the country. They were inserted into the maelstrom by their parents. Pursuing our fetish for naming things after their opposites, we call their parents “the Greatest Generation.”

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    The Greatest Generation was a marketing ploy dreamed up by Tom Brokaw to sell his book that slurped the Boomer's parents.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greatest_Generation
    , @res
    So you don't think the upheaval on college campuses in the late 60s (the undergrads were all boomers) had anything to do with wrecking the country? I suppose that could be blamed on the older administrators for indulging the boomer whims (which would be a very boomerish thing to do IMO, blame someone else-like their parents-for their own actions).

    That said I agree that:
    1. The earlier generations don't seem to be assigned enough blame for the changes which occurred while they were in leadership positions.
    2. Inter-generational strife is destructive because it divides people (e.g. here) who share more important political and social views.

    Which is why I don't rant on this topic more here. Boomer apologia (little to do?!) is a bit much for me though. Even if I do understand the desire to defend one's group.

    P.S. Kudos to Mr. Anon for at least considering the possibility.

    , @Anonymous
    "The Greatest Generation" was not anything of the sort. They failed miserably at bringing their children up and those children have failed miserably doing the same.

    The times did afford a few who were both very talented or smart and lucky to have once in a millennium opportunities. Yeager, and the first three (maybe four) astronaut classes come to mind. Those who were equally talented but less lucky had good but unglamorous lives for the most part.

    Generally, WWII proved that 1) man for man, the American soldier was usually mediocre, 2) people with immense physical courage often have zero moral courage, and 3) Allied victory was not won as much by battlefield prowess as manufacturing resources.
  92. @Cagey Beast
    Exactly. The White Boomerman quote in my comment above was said by the former Liberal Party of Canada leader, Michael Ignatieff. He flew back to Canada from Harvard, ran for Prime Minister, said he hoped his successor would be “a woman, preferably a woman of colour” and then took a job running George Soros' Central European University. Must be nice.

    His successor was Justin Trudeau, so he kind of got his wish to come true.

    Coincidentally, Ignatieff is a liberal jew who just so happened to be an outspoken advocate for the invasion of Iraq.

  93. Maybe. But a lot of people who came after the boomers seem to be developing a generally unfavorable opinion of them. I am a boomer myself (tail-end), and I am willing to concede that they might have a point. We inherited a great and prosperous country from the previous generation and what we will leave to the next generation doesn’t seem nearly as good. It may not all be our fault. But maybe a lot of it is.

    A lot of boomers are smug leftist assholes. They are stuck in their “golden age” of the sixties. They’d rather die in a fire than admit that their golden age was a disaster. See Stephen King for a great example.

  94. A different take on Black principals …

    Our entire educational system has been sacrificed on the altar of diversity. Teaching and management skills are never the issues. Rather, the minorities (whether Somalian, Black, Hispanic, etc.) demand that those teaching their children and managing schools are Somalian, Black, or Hispanic as role models and purveyors of minority cultures … minority jobs creation programs by another name. Pair that with the forced integration of schools to ensure there are no white schools left in America (“magic dirt” must be shared equally you know) with the statistic that schools with populations of more than 20% Black students cease to function. The end result: Our educational system is systematically failing nationwide under the burden of forced diversity and formularized integration.

    Black principals, whether in schools with majority or minority Black student populations, are a last-ditch effort to salvage the educational system. The hope is to get the Black students under control in schools already dysfunctional as well as those undergoing the process of becoming dysfunctional. The alternative is to face reality and declare school integration an abject failure as a 53-year old social experiment calculated to integrate Blacks into the mainstream white, European culture. We’re in the endgame. The experiment failed.

  95. A teacher of color (but one of the discriminated against colors) I know says whites are screwed every which way, especially white males.

    The district this teacher works in has black principals and Hispanic and female principals …

    This teacher also says white students are screwed when it comes to college entrance. They are better off to say ‘decline to state’ in the race field.

  96. @Bill
    The oldest boomer was 20 in 1965. They had little to do with wrecking the country. They were inserted into the maelstrom by their parents. Pursuing our fetish for naming things after their opposites, we call their parents "the Greatest Generation."

    The Greatest Generation was a marketing ploy dreamed up by Tom Brokaw to sell his book that slurped the Boomer’s parents.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greatest_Generation

  97. @Bill
    The oldest boomer was 20 in 1965. They had little to do with wrecking the country. They were inserted into the maelstrom by their parents. Pursuing our fetish for naming things after their opposites, we call their parents "the Greatest Generation."

    So you don’t think the upheaval on college campuses in the late 60s (the undergrads were all boomers) had anything to do with wrecking the country? I suppose that could be blamed on the older administrators for indulging the boomer whims (which would be a very boomerish thing to do IMO, blame someone else-like their parents-for their own actions).

    That said I agree that:
    1. The earlier generations don’t seem to be assigned enough blame for the changes which occurred while they were in leadership positions.
    2. Inter-generational strife is destructive because it divides people (e.g. here) who share more important political and social views.

    Which is why I don’t rant on this topic more here. Boomer apologia (little to do?!) is a bit much for me though. Even if I do understand the desire to defend one’s group.

    P.S. Kudos to Mr. Anon for at least considering the possibility.

    • Replies: @Bill

    So you don’t think the upheaval on college campuses in the late 60s (the undergrads were all boomers) had anything to do with wrecking the country? I suppose that could be blamed on the older administrators for indulging the boomer whims (which would be a very boomerish thing to do IMO, blame someone else-like their parents-for their own actions).
     
    Yes, it's insane to blame teenagers and twenty-somethings for their opinions. It's insane to blame them from acting on what they have been taught. If you think the ideas of the sixties were in some way new, then I feel bad for you.

    Boomer apologia (little to do?!) is a bit much for me though. Even if I do understand the desire to defend one’s group.
     
    I'm not a boomer.
  98. @Clyde
    Thanks for those two Nova Southeastern University links........ America's number one diploma mill for minorities from undergrad to PhD

    To get even more specific, the online for-profit Walden University awards the most doctorates to blacks. From 2011 to 2015 Walden awarded 682 doctorates to blacks compared to second-place Howard University which only awarded 354. In 2015, one-twelfth of black doctoral recipients earned their degrees from Walden, compared to less than 1 in 100 in 2002.

    http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/02/online-university-leads-united-states-awarding-doctorates-blacks

    • Replies: @FLgeezer
    And to think that this article appeared in a magazine named ScienceNews; ROFL! I'm so old that I remember when "We're Number One" was a claim to be proud of. ☹️
    , @Clyde

    To get even more specific, the online for-profit Walden University awards the most doctorates to blacks. From 2011 to 2015 Walden awarded 682 doctorates to blacks compared to second-place Howard University which only awarded 354. In 2015, one-twelfth of black doctoral recipients earned their degrees from Walden, compared to less than 1 in 100 in 2002.
     
    For affirmative action purposes the black or other favored minority needs that higher education credential to get his ticket punched. To get the lucrative promotion he/she is unqualified for and so on. Where the PhD comes from is obviously irrelevant these days. Thanks for the interesting info on Walden University, just more proof we are living in 2017.
  99. @Triumph104
    To get even more specific, the online for-profit Walden University awards the most doctorates to blacks. From 2011 to 2015 Walden awarded 682 doctorates to blacks compared to second-place Howard University which only awarded 354. In 2015, one-twelfth of black doctoral recipients earned their degrees from Walden, compared to less than 1 in 100 in 2002.

    http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/02/online-university-leads-united-states-awarding-doctorates-blacks

    And to think that this article appeared in a magazine named ScienceNews; ROFL! I’m so old that I remember when “We’re Number One” was a claim to be proud of. ☹️

  100. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill
    The oldest boomer was 20 in 1965. They had little to do with wrecking the country. They were inserted into the maelstrom by their parents. Pursuing our fetish for naming things after their opposites, we call their parents "the Greatest Generation."

    “The Greatest Generation” was not anything of the sort. They failed miserably at bringing their children up and those children have failed miserably doing the same.

    The times did afford a few who were both very talented or smart and lucky to have once in a millennium opportunities. Yeager, and the first three (maybe four) astronaut classes come to mind. Those who were equally talented but less lucky had good but unglamorous lives for the most part.

    Generally, WWII proved that 1) man for man, the American soldier was usually mediocre, 2) people with immense physical courage often have zero moral courage, and 3) Allied victory was not won as much by battlefield prowess as manufacturing resources.

    • Replies: @Bill
    Great comment. Spot on on all counts.
  101. @Triumph104
    To get even more specific, the online for-profit Walden University awards the most doctorates to blacks. From 2011 to 2015 Walden awarded 682 doctorates to blacks compared to second-place Howard University which only awarded 354. In 2015, one-twelfth of black doctoral recipients earned their degrees from Walden, compared to less than 1 in 100 in 2002.

    http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/02/online-university-leads-united-states-awarding-doctorates-blacks

    To get even more specific, the online for-profit Walden University awards the most doctorates to blacks. From 2011 to 2015 Walden awarded 682 doctorates to blacks compared to second-place Howard University which only awarded 354. In 2015, one-twelfth of black doctoral recipients earned their degrees from Walden, compared to less than 1 in 100 in 2002.

    For affirmative action purposes the black or other favored minority needs that higher education credential to get his ticket punched. To get the lucrative promotion he/she is unqualified for and so on. Where the PhD comes from is obviously irrelevant these days. Thanks for the interesting info on Walden University, just more proof we are living in 2017.

  102. @res
    So you don't think the upheaval on college campuses in the late 60s (the undergrads were all boomers) had anything to do with wrecking the country? I suppose that could be blamed on the older administrators for indulging the boomer whims (which would be a very boomerish thing to do IMO, blame someone else-like their parents-for their own actions).

    That said I agree that:
    1. The earlier generations don't seem to be assigned enough blame for the changes which occurred while they were in leadership positions.
    2. Inter-generational strife is destructive because it divides people (e.g. here) who share more important political and social views.

    Which is why I don't rant on this topic more here. Boomer apologia (little to do?!) is a bit much for me though. Even if I do understand the desire to defend one's group.

    P.S. Kudos to Mr. Anon for at least considering the possibility.

    So you don’t think the upheaval on college campuses in the late 60s (the undergrads were all boomers) had anything to do with wrecking the country? I suppose that could be blamed on the older administrators for indulging the boomer whims (which would be a very boomerish thing to do IMO, blame someone else-like their parents-for their own actions).

    Yes, it’s insane to blame teenagers and twenty-somethings for their opinions. It’s insane to blame them from acting on what they have been taught. If you think the ideas of the sixties were in some way new, then I feel bad for you.

    Boomer apologia (little to do?!) is a bit much for me though. Even if I do understand the desire to defend one’s group.

    I’m not a boomer.

  103. @Anonymous
    "The Greatest Generation" was not anything of the sort. They failed miserably at bringing their children up and those children have failed miserably doing the same.

    The times did afford a few who were both very talented or smart and lucky to have once in a millennium opportunities. Yeager, and the first three (maybe four) astronaut classes come to mind. Those who were equally talented but less lucky had good but unglamorous lives for the most part.

    Generally, WWII proved that 1) man for man, the American soldier was usually mediocre, 2) people with immense physical courage often have zero moral courage, and 3) Allied victory was not won as much by battlefield prowess as manufacturing resources.

    Great comment. Spot on on all counts.

  104. For a great example of a fictional black principal, watch American Dad!

  105. @L Woods
    Does she? She didn't seem to think much of throwing her more stalwart father under the bus.

    That is true and I forgot about that. She’s been open about broadening the party’s message but she does appear to have been consistent on her “France for the French” message. She just stepped down as president of the National Front to focus on the presidency and broadening the message further which she probably has no choice in doing since the other parties will gang up on her.

    But so many Western leaders have betrayed us or “evolved” over the years that for all I know she could be shouting “Allahu Akbar” by sometime next week.

  106. @Mr. Anon
    Yes, you do have a point there.

    Only very indirectly. Draftees were an utter disaster in Vietnam. They nearly wrecked the Marine Corps. The draft provoked massive Boomer protest and demoralizing public division over the war and helped bring down LBJ.
    Vietnam (and Boomers) killed the draft in the ’70s. All our wars since have been carefully managed not to put any obvious burden on the non-military population.

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