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From Statistics and Public Policy:
Officer Risk Factors Associated with Police Shootings: A Matched Case–Control Study
Greg Ridgeway
Published online: 12 Feb 2016
Download citation https://doi.org/10.1080/2330443X.2015.1129918 CrossMarkABSTRACT
Particularly with the resurgence of concern over police use of deadly force, there is a pressing need to understand the risk factors that lead to police shootings. This study uses a matched-case–control design to remove confounders of shooting incidents and identify features of officers that increased their risk of shooting. By matching shooting officers to nonshooting officers at the same scene, the analysis isolates the role of the officers’ features from the features of the incident’s environment. The study uses data from the New York City Police Department on 291 officers involved in 106 officer-involved shootings adjudicated between 2004 and 2006. Black officers were 3.3 times and officers rapidly accumulating negative marks in their files were 3.1 times more likely to shoot than other officers. Officers who started their police career later in life were less likely to shoot. The results indicate that officer features related to discharging a firearm are identifiable.
Thanks to Inductivist.
How about an article about how complaining about police use of Tasers has resulted in more shootings?
crime is out of control why do cops only patrol and respond to white neighborhoods
we want more cops….
too many young black men getting killed by cops…
White cops are racists we want more black cops
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stop being racist against black cops….
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OT: But Brian Switek, who Steve has featured before and would like you to call him ‘Riley Black’ has really gone off the deep end.
Upgrades…
Meanwhile, in Hollywood…
Mary Sue super negress cop Lesbian Kima Greggs contrasted with bumbling brutalizing fortunate white son Roland "Prez" Pryzbylewski who, aside from often needing his gun to be taken away for accidentally shooting it off randomly inside the police station, during a drunken rousting of a housing project punches a negro teen with results in the loss of its eye, then shoots a black cop to death after mistaking him for a negro perp.
Every white cop in that show was either a moron, closet homo, or drunk. Every black cop is nearly infallible and always morally justified. Negro police commissioner leaves his shrewy post wall negro wife for hot red head ADA with plenty of gratuitous sex for the viewer.
That show was way ahead of its time as far as wokeman points go.Replies: @Moses, @Anon, @IHTG, @Pericles
Minor correction: It is 3.3x for Black police,
the 3.1x is for “officers rapidly accumulating negative marks in their files.”
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Here is Greg Ridgeway, the author of the study, in a Science Mag interview when asked about the “Black police 3.3x more likely to shoot” finding:
Greg Ridgeway “pulls a Putnam” (phrase from scottynx).
Is there evidence that black officers made the wrong call more often than whites? Maybe blacks are more effective as cops because suspects (especially black sudpects) know they have a higher chance of getting shot by a black officer than a white one.
3.1x more likely, or 3.1x as likely? The former is 32% greater than the latter, risking charges of exaggeration, even lying.
Whites are nearly twice as likely to be killed by cops as blacks are, ceteris paribus.
So: black cops are much more trigger-happy than white cops, and white miscreants are much more likely to be shot by cops than black miscreants.
The upshot: the MSM narrative is diametrically opposed to the truth.
The overwhelming majority of black cops in NYC are there because of affirmative action. They are less qualified to begin with, so it’s no surprise that they’re more likely to shoot. One of the reason for the huge size of the NYPD, 36,000 officers, 19,000 non-officer employees, is to compensate for the the large number of affirmative action folks working there. I don’t understand how the entire city hasn’t collapsed from the weight of all the incompetents with city jobs. I guess Wall Street just doesn’t want to move.
It doesn't look like the numbers have changed much in forty years, even though the crime rate has dropped significantly. Today, many's beat isn't the street, but a seat.
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Were the black officers the ones putting themselves in harm’s way?
Just asking because a former colleague (White) left the police in the UK and had a bunch of scary stories about shitebag (=cowardly) fellow officers who shrank from potentially dangerous incidents. My colleague left after a firearm was discharged close to his face. His experience of cowardly fellow officers was similar to stories heard from other ex police officers.
Granted: the availability of firearms is much greater in the USA.
the 3.1x is for "officers rapidly accumulating negative marks in their files."____________Here is Greg Ridgeway, the author of the study, in a Science Mag interview when asked about the "Black police 3.3x more likely to shoot" finding:Greg Ridgeway "pulls a Putnam" (phrase from scottynx).Replies: @anonymous, @Hypnotoad666, @TWS
He’s pulling something, but it ain’t a Putnam.
Coast Guardsmen stationed in the city would marvel at the fact that our entire branch was smaller than the city’s police force.
It doesn’t look like the numbers have changed much in forty years, even though the crime rate has dropped significantly. Today, many’s beat isn’t the street, but a seat.
That’s probably eugenic for us, though.
Has that actually happened? Can you show data?
Some three decades ago a good friend, a prominent, recently deceased, “progressive” criminologist, privately confided to me, that much higher rates of corruption and incompetence among minority race criminal justice workers were a well known but unmentionable reality. Subsequent observation has confirmed all this for me. This is the first academic study I’ve seen that broaches the matter. These must be brave and dedicated researchers, willing to sacrifice their careers on the altar of Truth.
in fairness, I bet most of the people shot by black cops who wouldnt have been shot by white cops probably had it coming!
Which is the closer fit, race, or IQ? How does the IQ of the officer correlate with the propensity to shoot? Should we be hiring cops based on IQ? Should it be looked at by Internal Affairs during officer-involved-shooting investigations?
https://vdare.com/posts/quote-of-the-day-choosing-police-applicants-by-iq
They've found that smart, high IQ cops are not a good fit because they do not blindly follow orders.
Google "Robert Jordan" or "too smart to be a cop".
Turns out it isn't discrimination when they're discriminating against intelligent people.
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https://www.mintpressnews.com/can-someone-be-too-smart-to-be-a-cop/192106/
https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-court-ruled-you-can-be-too-smart-to-be-a-cop/5420630
No one is safe while Thin Blue Isis roams the streets.
Thin Blue Isis is the most dangerous gang in America.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/10/07/the-ways-you-can-comply-and-still-die-during-an-encounter-with-police/
http://michaelwferguson.blogspot.com/p/the-inappropriately-excluded-by-michael.html
If true, I’m thinking it’s a win-win for both departmental diversity goals and anti-criminality, considering who is likely getting popped by the cops in NYC.
in NYPD’s biased data set black cops are 3.3x more likely to shoot people, but in IBM’s corrected data set white cops are 1000x more likely to shot people for literally no reason whatsoever.
I think this study is evidence diversity can work!
That’s because you’re living in the successor to the Soviet Union, and the MSM is the equivalent of Pravda and TASS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCfSeVCr7ngReplies: @MikeatMikedotMike
Remember The Wire?
Mary Sue super negress cop Lesbian Kima Greggs contrasted with bumbling brutalizing fortunate white son Roland “Prez” Pryzbylewski who, aside from often needing his gun to be taken away for accidentally shooting it off randomly inside the police station, during a drunken rousting of a housing project punches a negro teen with results in the loss of its eye, then shoots a black cop to death after mistaking him for a negro perp.
Every white cop in that show was either a moron, closet homo, or drunk. Every black cop is nearly infallible and always morally justified. Negro police commissioner leaves his shrewy post wall negro wife for hot red head ADA with plenty of gratuitous sex for the viewer.
That show was way ahead of its time as far as wokeman points go.
Nah, NYPD Blue beat it by ten years.
Internalized white supremacy.
The system is racist.
Etc.
I think you mean “non-White criminal justice workers.”
The word “minority” is outdated. Whites are a minority now in most major metro areas.
Continuing to use the word “minority” perpetuates the narrative that Whites are dominant, non-Whites tiny in number, powerless and oppressed.
It ain’t so.
Words matter. Word choice subtly shapes thinking.
Why do you think the lefty press prefers “undocumented workers” to “illegal aliens”? They are very disciplined about using the correct words. Because it works.
Eliminate “minorities” from your vocabulary. Use “non-Whites” (or even “Blacks and Browns”) instead. Far more accurate. Puts the focus where it should be.
Mary Sue super negress cop Lesbian Kima Greggs contrasted with bumbling brutalizing fortunate white son Roland "Prez" Pryzbylewski who, aside from often needing his gun to be taken away for accidentally shooting it off randomly inside the police station, during a drunken rousting of a housing project punches a negro teen with results in the loss of its eye, then shoots a black cop to death after mistaking him for a negro perp.
Every white cop in that show was either a moron, closet homo, or drunk. Every black cop is nearly infallible and always morally justified. Negro police commissioner leaves his shrewy post wall negro wife for hot red head ADA with plenty of gratuitous sex for the viewer.
That show was way ahead of its time as far as wokeman points go.Replies: @Moses, @Anon, @IHTG, @Pericles
Yes. Because they control Hollywood. They will never, ever stop their demoralization campaign against Whites.
the 3.1x is for "officers rapidly accumulating negative marks in their files."____________Here is Greg Ridgeway, the author of the study, in a Science Mag interview when asked about the "Black police 3.3x more likely to shoot" finding:Greg Ridgeway "pulls a Putnam" (phrase from scottynx).Replies: @anonymous, @Hypnotoad666, @TWS
Everyone is acting like shooting perps is automatically a bad thing. Sometimes it’s the right call. Maybe the lesson is that white cops are too slow on the trigger. (Afraid of being labeled as racist?).
Is there evidence that black officers made the wrong call more often than whites? Maybe blacks are more effective as cops because suspects (especially black sudpects) know they have a higher chance of getting shot by a black officer than a white one.
Mary Sue super negress cop Lesbian Kima Greggs contrasted with bumbling brutalizing fortunate white son Roland "Prez" Pryzbylewski who, aside from often needing his gun to be taken away for accidentally shooting it off randomly inside the police station, during a drunken rousting of a housing project punches a negro teen with results in the loss of its eye, then shoots a black cop to death after mistaking him for a negro perp.
Every white cop in that show was either a moron, closet homo, or drunk. Every black cop is nearly infallible and always morally justified. Negro police commissioner leaves his shrewy post wall negro wife for hot red head ADA with plenty of gratuitous sex for the viewer.
That show was way ahead of its time as far as wokeman points go.Replies: @Moses, @Anon, @IHTG, @Pericles
Every white cop in that show was either a moron, closet homo, or drunk. Every black cop is nearly infallible and always morally justified… That show was way ahead of its time as far as wokeman points go.
Nah, NYPD Blue beat it by ten years.
1. Since race doesn’t exist, we can just ignore this study; and
2. This study is racist. We need to have it burned and disappeared, and fire, whitelist, and imprison the obscenely white male author!
Mary Sue super negress cop Lesbian Kima Greggs contrasted with bumbling brutalizing fortunate white son Roland "Prez" Pryzbylewski who, aside from often needing his gun to be taken away for accidentally shooting it off randomly inside the police station, during a drunken rousting of a housing project punches a negro teen with results in the loss of its eye, then shoots a black cop to death after mistaking him for a negro perp.
Every white cop in that show was either a moron, closet homo, or drunk. Every black cop is nearly infallible and always morally justified. Negro police commissioner leaves his shrewy post wall negro wife for hot red head ADA with plenty of gratuitous sex for the viewer.
That show was way ahead of its time as far as wokeman points go.Replies: @Moses, @Anon, @IHTG, @Pericles
Kima is a self-centered careerist who sheds most of her relationships over the course of the series. As a character flaw that might be better than what some of the white cops have, but it’s odd that you’d compare her with Prez, who ends up as one of the series’ most positive & moral characters.
I would have thought that rules on significant digits and statistical significance would have forced them to round to 3x … 3.1x is so much scarier.
Mary Sue super negress cop Lesbian Kima Greggs contrasted with bumbling brutalizing fortunate white son Roland "Prez" Pryzbylewski who, aside from often needing his gun to be taken away for accidentally shooting it off randomly inside the police station, during a drunken rousting of a housing project punches a negro teen with results in the loss of its eye, then shoots a black cop to death after mistaking him for a negro perp.
Every white cop in that show was either a moron, closet homo, or drunk. Every black cop is nearly infallible and always morally justified. Negro police commissioner leaves his shrewy post wall negro wife for hot red head ADA with plenty of gratuitous sex for the viewer.
That show was way ahead of its time as far as wokeman points go.Replies: @Moses, @Anon, @IHTG, @Pericles
As a measure of consolation, the name of the redhead was ‘Rhonda Pearlman’. (Played by Deirdre Lovejoy.)
https://twitter.com/Laelaps/status/1198414654998843392
Upgrades...Replies: @Sean, @TWS
High IQ genes> autism> transexual.
The 1939 NYPD class was famously selected by IQ alone and had far higher performance for decades compared to their cohorts in other classes.
https://vdare.com/posts/quote-of-the-day-choosing-police-applicants-by-iq
Put any black near a gun and you prolly got a 3.3 times likely prollabiloty dat some bad shit gonna be goin’ down.
They do hire cops based on IQ.
They’ve found that smart, high IQ cops are not a good fit because they do not blindly follow orders.
Google “Robert Jordan” or “too smart to be a cop”.
Turns out it isn’t discrimination when they’re discriminating against intelligent people.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/can-someone-be-too-smart-to-be-a-cop/192106/
https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-court-ruled-you-can-be-too-smart-to-be-a-cop/5420630
No one is safe while Thin Blue Isis roams the streets.
Thin Blue Isis is the most dangerous gang in America.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/10/07/the-ways-you-can-comply-and-still-die-during-an-encounter-with-police/
http://michaelwferguson.blogspot.com/p/the-inappropriately-excluded-by-michael.html
I entirely agree with the point you are making. However, at the time my friend spoke with me, Whites were absolutely the majority. In deference to this fact and also out of respect for my friend I deliberately chose to use an approximation of his phrasing.
And a lefty in your position would use the word that best advances the lefty narrative, every single time.
Not to pick on you specifically, but this is why we lose.
we want more cops....
too many young black men getting killed by cops...
White cops are racists we want more black cops
...
stop being racist against black cops....Replies: @Adam Smith
Who’s this “we” you speak of?
Also, despite a drinking problem and other character flaws, the white detective McNulty is a sort of genius at his job.
https://twitter.com/Laelaps/status/1198414654998843392
Upgrades...Replies: @Sean, @TWS
Dudes a pervert. What else can you say?
the 3.1x is for "officers rapidly accumulating negative marks in their files."____________Here is Greg Ridgeway, the author of the study, in a Science Mag interview when asked about the "Black police 3.3x more likely to shoot" finding:Greg Ridgeway "pulls a Putnam" (phrase from scottynx).Replies: @anonymous, @Hypnotoad666, @TWS
Good phrase. Putnam should be up there with Arkancide
True they lowered the standards to get minorities in, in any numbers and wound up with more minorities and more dysfunction at all levels.
Not to worry. IF and when they strike out at NYPD, they can get on with the DEA.
Also take a look-see at all the NYPD Diversity:
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/nypd/careers/human-resources-info/fraternals.page
In the suburbs of a medium-sized Pennsylvania town, not long ago, an off-duty white cop shot an unarmed Puerto Rican.
White cop. Shoots unarmed Puerto Rican.
He had a stun gun and a club and all sorts of other weapons. Apparently, it did not occur to him to used them.
Does he shoot once? To wound? Nope. 5 times. To kill.
This will never get reported in your unbiased no-spin zone.
Wow, those values he has for the likelihood of being a black cop and shooting are absolutely insane. Very high effect value (3.3) and very low p vlaue. That’s a stronger finding than the CPI points finding.
The age effect is small, but intuitive: younger people are more likely to be risk taking in general, and this increased risk-taking interestingly seems to become “common sense” knowledge for cops who started young, i.e. they don’t “outgrow” it through further experience.
Personally, I find the author’s explanation of increased misdemeanor arrests decreasing shooting likelihood laughable:
…or in other words, officers who typically deal with (or intentionally seek) situations that don’t require violence aren’t prepared to deal with situations that require it. He is very careful not to explicitly say that this “risk evaluation” is better than other officers’ risk evaluation.
Interesting factors that didn’t make the cut: Years of education and sex. I would have expected to at least see that being male is a definite indicator of being more likely to shoot, but that it wasn’t definitive is curious.
The age effect is small, but intuitive: younger people are more likely to be risk taking in general, and this increased risk-taking interestingly seems to become "common sense" knowledge for cops who started young, i.e. they don't "outgrow" it through further experience.
Personally, I find the author's explanation of increased misdemeanor arrests decreasing shooting likelihood laughable:...or in other words, officers who typically deal with (or intentionally seek) situations that don't require violence aren't prepared to deal with situations that require it. He is very careful not to explicitly say that this "risk evaluation" is better than other officers' risk evaluation.
Interesting factors that didn't make the cut: Years of education and sex. I would have expected to at least see that being male is a definite indicator of being more likely to shoot, but that it wasn't definitive is curious.Replies: @Steve Sailer
Women cops probably shoot less out of anger, more out of fear, so it more or less balances out between the sexes.
Got a link?
Fair enough.
And a lefty in your position would use the word that best advances the lefty narrative, every single time.
Not to pick on you specifically, but this is why we lose.
the most insane thing about this data is that officers who are “rapidly accumulating negative marks” are less trigger happy than the AVERAGE black officer. So white people who are considered loose cannons/incompetent are actually less trigger happy than average blacks.
I’d be interested in the statistics on Muslim police officers…..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Justine_Damond