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So, the second half of 2019 was shootier than the second half of 2018, which was likely the least homicidal year nationally since BLM emerged at Ferguson. The first two months of the pandemic, March and April 2020, were pretty ho-hum at around 30 medical care-requiring shooting incidents per million, but then went up to c. 35 in May and c. 45 in June and shootings stayed very high until the weather cooled off after the election. But in 2021, June was even worse than June 2020.

It would be interesting to see data by week for May 2020 to see whether blacks didn’t get so much more shooty until the last week of the month after the death of George Floyd, or whether the trend took off earlier in the month, perhaps due to all the media agitation over Ahmaud Arbery?

From Epic Health Research Network:

2020 Firearm Injuries Up More Than 70%–Worse in Black and Hispanic Young Men

Abstract: Healthcare visits for firearm injuries increased significantly for all patients in 2020, particularly for non-White populations.

15 Sep 2021

Dual Team Study
Team A: Ryan Bohochik | Lindsay Lin, PhD | Eric Lindgren, JD
Team B: Johnston Thayer, RN | Adrianna Teriakidis, PhD

These data come from Cosmos, a HIPAA-Limited Data Set of more than 118 million patients from 136 Epic organizations including 705 hospitals and 12,172 clinics, serving patients in all 50 states.

That’s not a bad sample size. Epic is the giant software firm that provides a larger percentage of the software used by doctors these days.

This study was completed by two teams, comprised of clinicians and data scientists, that independently acquired and analyzed data. Both teams were involved in the interpretation of results and drafting of this brief. Overall, the two teams came to similar conclusions.

… We reviewed EHR data for patients who sought care for at least one new firearm incident. The data show a sharp increase in incidents starting in late spring 2020, with monthly incidents peaking in October 2020 at 73% higher than the monthly average in 2018 and 2019.

Firearm incidents increased for patients of all races and ages, as shown in Figure 2 and Figure 3 below, but the increase was not proportional across races. To smooth month-to-month variation, we calculated 5-month rolling averages and found that incidents increased for non-White populations by between 76% and 89% while they increased for the White population by 40%.

Five month rolling average of the percent change in firearm incidents from March 2018 to April 2021 above or below the baseline historical average from January 2018 to December 2019, stratified by race or ethnicity. The “Other” category includes any race or ethnicity outside of Hispanic, Black, or White.

An interesting question is how bad the increased in shootiness was among Latinos, and why? I’ve seen bits of data suggesting both Real Bad and Not Bad.

… We further stratified new firearm incidents by race or ethnicity and age, as shown in Figure 3. Black male patients ages 18-34 have historically had more firearm incidents than patients from other groups. Black female patients ages 18-34 have also had more firearm incidents than other female groups.

At a time when other interactions with the healthcare system decreased, visits for new firearm incidents increased, particularly for non-White patients.

A lot of important people have a lot of blood on their hands from promoting Black Lives Murdered.

 
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  1. “Other” = ●●● + 🪶 🪶 🪶 computed together.

    👁🧠🪢!

    Black female patients ages 18-34 have also had more firearm incidents than other female groups.

    And some male groups.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  2. 2BR says:

    A lot of important people have a lot of blood on their hands from promoting Black Lives Murdered.

    The powers that be believe the “important people” with blood on their hands are the gun manufacturers and Republicans (for protecting private gun ownership). They really do believe we should outlaw all guns, we should and could seize them and so we would solve the problem. Your charts merely strengthen their belief. This is (like so many issues now) a religious dispute. It comes down to belief, not facts.

  3. Huge blow to Amnesty through Reconciliation.

    If not for this decision, Democrats could’ve given Amnesty to 8 million with only 50 Senate votes (which they had).

    The Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough may have killed Amnesty.

  4. anonymous[333] • Disclaimer says:

    anyone who visits commercial ranges or retail knows the New Gun Owner is black. So not only will street shootings go up but ALL gun pathologies: accidents, lost guns, stolen guns, guns in schools, mass shootings, guns left in McDonald’s bathrooms. Get used to it.

    • Replies: @Dhklhfhj gjjbbb
  5. A lot of important people have a lot of blood on their hands from promoting Black Lives Murdered.

    Yep.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  6. Thank you for the post, Steve. That’s a lot of good data for the mass media to ignore. Along with political leaders, the cultural elite, and anyone who just wants to keep his job..

    And it is in this context that your last sentence is, alas, somewhat risible. Please know that systemic racism and white supremacy are to blame.

  7. Ralph L says:

    They’re even shooting the old black and latino guys, assuming they’re not self-inflicted wounds.

    Are they including DOAs as firearm incidents in the active patient chart?

  8. A lot of important people have a lot of blood on their hands from promoting Black Lives Murdered.

    Those important people couldn’t care less. Like Lenin and Stalin, they are pursuing an overarching goal of “social justice”. They both liquidated millions, including those who were otherwise on their side. Tough business.

    When people believe they must enforce some Ideology, Religion, or any other set of Sacred Words above all other concerns, blood follows. And they’re okay with it.

  9. Meanwhile …

    11 people wounded after 7 weekend shootings in Minneapolis

    Three of the gunshot victims are in critical condition.

    By Kim Hyatt Minneapolis Star Tribune

    SEPTEMBER 19, 2021 — 11:54AM

    At least 11 people were injured from gunshot wounds, three of them critically, after a violent weekend in Minneapolis.

    The men and women wounded in seven separate shootings spanning less than 30 hours between midnight Saturday and 3 a.m. Sunday are the latest victims of gun violence in one of the city’s deadliest years in a generation.

    At a news conference Sunday, Minneapolis police spokesman Officer Garrett Parten said the rising crime is concerning but can’t be addressed by police alone.

    “Seven incidents, 11 people shot — that’s unacceptable. And it’s not normal. We don’t see that every weekend,” Parten said. “What we’re facing is not going to be solved just by police presence. We need the community’s help … Stand up and say no to the kind of violence that we’re seeing in our city.”

    http://strib.mn/3tTkwps

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
  10. BostonTea says:

    “Firearm incidents increased for the White population by 40%”

    White savages.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  11. El Dato says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    That’s “disproportonate affectation”.

    Maybe a Czar of Wounding could help.

  12. AndrewR says:
    @2BR

    The powers that be don’t care about blacks except as a weapon to use against whites whom they want to disarm not because of any real concern about unjustified gun violence but because a disarmed populace is easier to control and enslave.

    Blacks eagerly play their role because they like the revenge they can get against whites even though blacks would be best served by teaming up with whites against the elites

  13. @2BR

    The Democrats believe that only whites should be denied the right to own and carry guns. When Bloomberg was mayor of NYC, the media would have conniptions every time a black or Hispanic was stopped and searched by the police for guns.

  14. @RichardTaylor

    “What happened to Minnesota Nice?”

    Oh, that was back when Minnesota was full of actual Minnesotans.

  15. Epic is the giant software firm that provides a larger percentage of the software used by doctors these days.

    “Larger” than whom?

    • Replies: @guest007
  16. guest007 says:
    @Bill Jones

    Epic is the largest of the electronic medical record (EMR) companies with about 1/3 of the market and growing. Eventually the U.S. will get around to having a standard EMR at all hospitals and most physicians offices due to the desire not to have to keep training new staff on a different systems. If every hospital used EPIC, then all new hires would know you to use it.

  17. Dan Smith says:

    In the nearby city of Minneapolis hardly a day goes by when the police spokesman, a guy who looks and talks like a social worker, goes on camera to let us know how shocked he is that all this gun violence continues to happen. The community isn’t going to put up with it much longer. Pretty soon some serious consequences will be in store. Not kidding this time. Brings a smile to my face.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  18. Criticas says: • Website

    The sort of info Steve usually finds first: https://modelcitizen.substack.com/p/new-evidence-for-the-density-divide

    Will Wilkinson looks at a new study by Markus Jokela, a psychologist and epidemiologist at the University of Helsinki. There’s a striking correlation between population density and party vote share. Do people move as a form of selection, or does moving to an environment change voter’s views?

    Spoiler:

    The current study provides direct longitudinal evidence on how political party affiliation of individuals predicts their subsequent residential mobility across urban and rural regions of the United States. Compared to those supporting Democrats, individuals supporting Republicans were less likely to move from rural areas to major cities and were more likely to move away from major cities. Simple simulation models based on the regression models indicated that, between ages 20 and 40, selective residential mobility would have widened the political divide by 6 percentage points in major cities (from 50% Democrats vs. 40% Republicans to 53% Democrats vs. 37% Republicans) and by 6 percentage points in rural areas (from 50% Democrats vs. 40% Republicans to 47% Democrats vs. 43% Republicans).

    .

    • Replies: @guest007
  19. Arclight says:

    As even the non-lethal events at the NYC restaurant show, it’s a very short road from a black person feeling disrespected to the application of violence in response. When blacks are out and about in groups and a conflict arises, the offended party’s companions usually egg on violent retribution rather than usher them away.

    As Steve and many others have pointed out, when the group that is most prone to departing from society’s norms are sent the signal by the cultural powers that be that this will not only be tolerated but is in fact righteous behavior, more is sure to follow. At this point all we can do is avoid areas where things like this are bound to happen and allow the body count to rise to the point that it’s so intolerable that the progressive politicians who control these areas are finally forced to do something about it or are voted out by fed up constituents. We aren’t there yet, though.

  20. Nice post, Steve.

    From your excerpt of the paper:

    We reviewed EHR data for patients who sought care for at least one new firearm incident.

    [My bolding] This makes sense, of course, but it sounds pretty funny. “OK, now is this hole from your last shooting – still a lot of pus, so I can’t tell?”

    BTW, for Steve and everyone (or maybe even Ron Unz), it’s a minor bug that if you put something in a blockquote and put italics around the whole thing*, only the 1st paragraph will come out italicized. However, the quick workaround is to put tags around all paragraphs. With the HTML buttons here, just highlight each para. and make it italics, separately.

    I only remember that about 1/3 of a time, but word to the wise.

    .

    * as in, one tag at be beginning and one at the end.

  21. @Pincher Martin

    Which is why they won’t back down. Backing down would be tantamount to admitting culpability, so now they have to keep insisting on the false blame-whitey narrative to protect their own skins.

    By the way, the headline of this post is

    Black Gunshot Victims Up 89% During Racial Reckoning

    but de-policing of black bodies etc. is what they said they wanted and now they’re getting it along with the obviously inevitable increased shootings. The real headline here IMHO is that shootings of non-blacks have gone up by so much. Most of those people were probably not demanding a Racial Reckoning.

  22. @JohnnyWalker123

    All the more surprising because the Senate parliamentarian is a Clinton appointee, a woman, and an immigration lawyer! That should have been a trifecta for spineless pandering to Democrat wishes. Instead Elizabeth MacDonough may have bought what’s left of the US another year or two of life.

    The Ghost of the Republic tips its hat to Ms. MacDonough.

    The only hint that MacDonough might put principle above party was that her work as an immigration lawyer was for the INS, i.e., prosecuting border jumpers rather than coddling them.

  23. @anonymous

    A fool and his gun are soon parted.

  24. Jack D says:

    A lot of important people have a lot of blood on their hands from promoting Black Lives Murdered.

    Stalin said that the death of George Floyd was a tragedy, but the death of thousands from the Great Awokening is a statistic.

    Stalin may have been really evil, but he understood the way that the world works. None of those anonymous gunshot victims had 8 minutes and 15 seconds of compelling video to go with their stories.

    Even if the people who stirred up the Awokening knew what they were doing was going to lead to an uptick in black on black violence (I doubt that they did), like Stalin, the will to power is (to them) more important than whether a bunch of worthless black people live or die. These people were of no consequence to anyone except their families. If they die, they will have died for a good cause – the promotion of the power of the important people. They would have died eventually anyway from some drug overdose or drug deal gone bad or obesity or whatever – this way at least they died for a good cause.

  25. fnn says:

    “Gun reform” is the answer, says The Hill:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/news/573003-new-data-shows-gun-violence-spiking-in-2021

    The spike in mass shootings and gun violence in general has done little to move Congress on the issue. No significant gun reform legislation has been taken up by Congress this year.

  26. Anon[372] • Disclaimer says:

    When black women of childbearing age are getting shot, it’s either, “She’s cheating on me!” (Stats say the average unmarried black woman with two kids had them by different fathers), or “She’s leaving me!”

  27. guest007 says:
    @Almost Missouri

    I doubt if the President gets to appoint the Senate Parliamentarian. The Senators get to pick their own.

  28. Not Raul says:
    @Almost Missouri

    The Senate ought to revive the bi-partisan immigration proposal from a number of years ago; but with a few changes. Borders and other ports of entry need more resources, and there should be mandatory e-verify. If they crack down more on employers who utilize lots of illegal immigrants, there would be fewer illegal immigrants.

    An interesting idea would be to allow states to sponsor visas. Maybe have fewer visas sponsored by corporations, and more by states.

  29. @2BR

    This is (like so many issues now) a religious dispute.

    Since the 1960s, certain people have made it so.

    Why Jews Hate Guns

    It’s no secret that one of the largest blocs of people pressing for so-called “gun control” is the culturally (aka not-so-religious) American Jewish community. This confounds many observers who would expect that Jews, with such a stunning history of oppression and murder by humanity’s villains, would cling tenaciously to personal firearms and the ability to protect themselves as the Hebrew Scriptures instruct.

    http://jpfo.org/articles-assd02/why-jews-hate-guns.htm

    Raging Against Self Defense:
    A psychiatrist Examines The Anti-Gun Mentality

    How often have you heard these statements from misguided advocates of victim disarmament, or even woefully uninformed relatives and neighbors? Why do people cling so tightly to these beliefs, in the face of incontrovertible evidence that they are wrong? Why do they get so furiously angry when gun owners point out that their arguments are factually and logically incorrect? How can you communicate with these people who seem to be out of touch with reality and rational thought? One approach to help you deal with anti-gun people is to understand their psychological processes. Once you understand why these people behave so irrationally, you can communicate more effectively with them.

    About a year ago I received an e-mail from a member of a local Jewish organization. The author, who chose to remain anonymous, insisted that people have no right to carry firearms because he didn’t want to be murdered if one of his neighbors had a “bad day”. (I don’t know that this person is a “he”, but I’m assuming so for the sake of simplicity.) I responded by asking him why he thought his neighbors wanted to murder him, and, of course, got no response. The truth is that he’s statistically more likely to be murdered by a neighbor who doesn’t legally carry a firearm(1) and more likely to be shot accidentally by a law enforcement officer.(2)

    http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/ragingagainstselfdefense.htm

  30. Lots of long guns, hopefully “assault rifles,” are being transferred in the face of the massive billionaire and wealthy foundation financed gun control propaganda (Gun Violence Archive, Everytown, Brady Campaign, Gun Safety Alliance, etc.).

    More guns, more FEAR from TPTB.

    http://jpfo.org/articles-2021/aug-21-nics-gun-sales.htm

  31. Who gives a fuck? Liberals don’t and neither does anyone reading your blog. My sympathies are for any non blacks effected.

  32. El Dato says:
    @Arclight

    India shows that pogroms to remind the other side to please police its people with outlying behaviour better work pretty well.

    Plus, you get sob cinema out of it.

  33. @JohnnyWalker123

    If not for this decision, Democrats could’ve given Amnesty to 8 million with only 50 Senate votes (which they had).

    The Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough may have killed Amnesty.

    I’m as much an immigration hawk as anyone, but if a floor vote was held I don’t think the Democrats have 50 votes for such a naked Amnesty. And I may be cynical but I think the Democrats are doing this knowing that it would fail before the Parliamentarian as a sort of messaging bill to their base. The Democrats’ grand strategy is to make Amnesty politically palatable by wrapping it up with other nonsense including designed-to-fail immigration enforcement stuff and a slap on the wrist “fine” for people who have flouted U.S. law for 15-20 years.

    Manchin and Sinema are likely silently representing 5-10 other Democratic Senators from red or swing states who don’t want to take these sorts of votes but who want credibility with their left wing bases.

  34. Black Gunshot Victims Up 89% During Racial Reckoning

    In 2021 you need to have some critical faculties to read the “news” and derive from it what is happening in the United States.

    These reports focus on the race of victims, since in the ruling class ideology blacks have no agency and the idea is to point your average news consumer towards some red herring villain like gun manufacturers. But we with the appropriate critical eye know that reports of more blacks getting shot really just means that more blacks are shooting one another. Paradoxically (or, not), the reason for this is a movement titled “Black Lives Matter” which has as its actual goal the decriminalization of black antisocial and violent behavior under the guise that police officers represent a grave threat to the lives of blacks.

  35. @Joe Stalin

    Jews have traditionally lived in urban areas near Blacks and have served as the middle man for certain businesses. They would deal with Blacks directly and buy from White suppliers. These Jews have largely supported the position of disarming everyone in an attempt to disarm Blacks. Urban White liberals have the same opinion. Basically just get rid of the guns so Blacks can’t shoot us. The third option of telling the truth about “gun crime” is still unpalatable to most Whites. Most Democrats in cities like NY and LA would ban every gun if they could before allowing such truths to be spoken.

    But with that said I wouldn’t pin gun control on the Jews since our Federal government has long refused to face the reality of race. The 1968 gun control act was really an attempt at reducing Black violence which exploded after urban Democrats went soft on crime.

    LBJ was a non-Jewish racial realist liberal that didn’t think the act went far enough. He wanted a mandatory registration system but congress wouldn’t give it to him. Biden isn’t Jewish either and has long supported a ban on “assault rifles” even though he can’t really explain what they are or why they should be the focus when most gun crime involves Blacks and handguns. Most of the non-Jewish White Democrats in DC would happily ban handguns if they could and leave us with UK style laws.

  36. El Dato says:
    @Joe Stalin

    I could get behind that but the dinduistic myth espousal is strong

    Contemporary Jews may have largely acquiesced to their WWII inquisitors, but Biblical Jews resisted their Egyptian slave masters and then fought countless fierce battles against invaders and anti-Semites, such as Amelek, the Philistines and Haman.

    Jews have been assaulted, accosted, and oppressed by nearly every nation and empire in history, including the ancient Greeks, Romans, Persians, Byzantines, Ottomans and of course modern nations like Germany and the USSR.

    “We need to talk.”

    Anyway, theater lights have come on, COVID officially declared over (though the endemic and long COVID cases will stay):

    The US public moved on from Covid months ago… but no one told the media or self-worshiping health officials

    [MORE]

    At some point since March last year, the vast swath of the American public realized there’s only so much a functioning society can do to fend off an illness. Once that benchmark is met, functioning takes precedence over fear of the illness.

    This peaceful brand of viral acceptance took hold gradually over the last few months and began to settle in even before the majority of citizens got vaccinated. While sensible folks weren’t rushing out and licking Petri dishes in defiance, they also came to understand that, at some point, you simply have to get back to living and accept that day-to-day activity includes some amount of inherent risk.

    It also helped that it became very clear to everyone but health officials months into the pandemic that Covid-19 was really a serious risk to a very small percentage of the population – but let’s trash that broken record.

  37. @Almost Missouri

    The only hint that MacDonough might put principle above party was that her work as an immigration lawyer was for the INS, i.e., prosecuting border jumpers rather than coddling them.

    She actually had a firmly negative opinion on the issue of whether Greencards could be included in the Reconciliation bill.

    The Democrats are now attempting Reconciliation by moving the registry date. Under their proposal, everyone in America prior to 2011 could be legalized. See below. It’s not clear if that would pass muster with the Parliamentarian.

    View post on imgur.com

  38. @Almost Missouri

    Read her decision here.

  39. guest007 says:
    @Criticas

    Whites do not move into core urban areas unless they are wealthy or the children of the wealthy who have parents who will subsidize the lifestyle of their children (another reason girls go to college more). Look at cities like DC, Baltimore, Boston, NYC. When a city has a school system than is 15% non-Hispanic white or less, there is no place in those cities for blue collar or middle class whites. Either those lower economic class whites live in the exurbs and arrange their life around long commutes or live in smaller towns and avoid large cities.

    Such life choices affect career choices, family formation, and overall quality of life.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  40. @Joe Stalin

    If you believe the Brits on Quora, their people are far worse than American Jews on this issue. They think Canada is anarchic. Our Mr Mason is quite restrained by comparison.

  41. Rob says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Is McDonough in a nominally non-partisan position? Quickly perusing wiki, I could not find “non-partisan”, “independent”, or “partisan” anywhere. There was no D or R next to her name, but Harry Reid appointed her, so she probably(?) leans Democratic?

    I think the D’s know a mass “amnesty.” so wish it were an amnesty. The illegals are forgiven for their previous crime of being here. Then they go home, so they stop committing more of that crime going forward. Letting them stay after amnesty is a prize. So it should be called “mass amnesty and prizes.” Or “long-term election fraud.” Or “great (bleak) replacement.

    [MORE]

    It was easier for them, who is behind amnesty? It seems agribusiness benefits from the status quo. Their workers aren’t deported, but they are illegals, so they have a hard time organizing, job-shop, or even file workers’ comp when they get hurt. Do progs want amnesty, or do they just want to hurt cons or use amnesty as Lucy’s football? Districting is based on pop, not legal population. There won’t be any redistricting after amnesty. These illegals were not exempt from the legal mandate to complete their US census form!

    I guess because no one has much material interest in amnestying and prizifying the illegals, it hasn’t happened since Ray Gun’s back, like forty years ago (holy crap, I’m old) when the problem was supposed to be on the order of 1-2 million people amnestied, and in exchange American’s would not get Señor Amnistiado’s cousins, ie they’d deign to enforce the law as written.

    They reneged, and to their credit, the conservatives learned something1!!1 I think that deserves an eleventy, and I’m writing on an iPad, so I had to work for that. No amnesty has passed, and we have the normies on our side. It’s one thing for the globalists and their shills to be all “Thais are fantastic people, love their families, make good curry” or “Indians are fantastic people will fit right in, make even better curry”, but when it comes to Mexicans, everyone’s dealt with some, and they are a “meh” folk on this side of the border. Crazy Saint Death-worshipping narcotraficantes in their homeland, but not where whites are dominant. Their biggest selling point is that they are better than blacks. But you don’t have to be the GAO to intuit that a construction laborer who will get old and receive free medical care, social security – I don’t think they advertise it, but pretty sure social security pays out to illegals of the appropriate age who can show they’ve been paying in – is a net tax consumer. Add on his 6 kids and a few grandkids when he’s under forty (by age), and they all are over 40 (by BMI) and you do not have to wonder why Cali is bottom of the barrel in educational performance. I doubt the taxes paid by illegals and their descendants cover the cost of “educating” the kids.

    There’s also the huge opportunity cost of having 120 or so million Mexicans here. If they were replaced by an average bunch of whites, like if they were not here driving down wages, driving up prices, driving you out of “their” neighborhoods, not intentionally, like blacks did, but just because everyone prefers living with their own. But they depress native reproduction, maybe not one for one, but I would bet that if we did not have endless hordes, the American American population would be 25 million higher than it is now – and they would produce as much wealth as all those Mexicans. In the long run, they would produce more, because expensive labor incentivizes substituting technology. Instead of Instagram, we’d be nearly as roboticized as Japan.

    Even normies are starting to see that infinite immigration has huge downsides. Like, the country was doing well in 1965, and now a hundred million immigrants later, it’s a shambles. Why is exactly is having more bodies going to make us rich, again? Aren’t there countries with lots of bodies? Are they all rich? Are there countries with not a lot of people? Are they all poor? The answers are: look a racist! Yes. No. Yes. No, respectively. A wise normie might ask “why can’t we do the things countries with not a lot of people do that makes them rich? In response, he’s told about someone fleeing a pogrom, Americans being nice or naive enough to let him in, snd his descendants repaying their kindness by flooding their country with a deluge ranging from: “Wow, we deed more of these Scandinavians!” To “meh, you are the burrito people, like a burrito, a little goes a long way.” To “why are your cousins going boom in my country, again?” To “hey thanks for doing the math hw for me…you’re not very creative, huh? To “oh goody! We brought some of your compatriots over a long while back, and they have been a gift from the gods [of violence and decay]”

    I think Dems see a short window to amnesty. They have to do it before real economic troubles hit. They gotta do it while the immigrating antecedents of today’s NAAMs (non-black minorities) die, and they start thinking they are X-Americans, not X’s or even Americans. They have to do it before a human-like, even politician-like person learns the Trumpian Lesson, and takes the Republican primary, and the immune reaction hits. They have to do it before the older white liberals are dead.

    If real economic trouble comes, the aliens will just go home, and how will they hurt whites that way? If the current minorities assimilate, even to the extent that they don’t speak Thai, then there is no easy landing for new immigrants. If someone picks up where Candidate Trump left off, then it’s all over for immigration forever. Once the white liberals are gone, and they cannot put the replacement in whiteface, there is no way normies will allow their replacement (i hope)

    D’s were desperate for R support oast round because they don’t want to own amnesty, and it’ll discourage the R base, maybe to the extent of killing the party.

  42. A lot of important people have a lot of blood on their hands from promoting Black Lives Murdered.

    Perhaps better known as “Black Lives Murder”.

    I can believe whites are a bit shootier this year too.

    But what % of the 40% white bump is coming from whites either just “in the way” or blacks actually targeting whites after being topped on racial resentment?

  43. Lockdowns created the toxic social condition s for civil unrest and rioting. The consequence of closing colleges and schools, churches, bars, clubs, gyms, sporting venues, musical venues etc…With millions of Americans out of work due to the lockdowns and all social activity banned the only outlet for social gatherings were at BLM protests. The resulting riots and increased gun violence were the consequence of the lockdowns. If George Floyd overdosed in 2019 there would have been a few protests in Minneapolis but the protests would not have spread across the nation. Fewer would have protested and rioted because they would have jobs and school and other social outlets. The death of Michael Brown resulted in a just a few protests, and only two riots. In contrast to the thousands of protests and 900 riots following the death of Floyd. The clampdown is the biggest reason we had 900 riots in 2020 and just Two riots in 2014.

  44. @2BR

    The powers that be believe the “important people” with blood on their hands are the gun manufacturers and Republicans (for protecting private gun ownership). They really do believe we should outlaw all guns, we should and could seize them and so we would solve the problem.

    True. But as with concerns like “global warming” or “the environment” or “family wages”, the policies and actions of the TPTB don’t align with getting to where they want to go.

    If some politicians wanted to try and move the country toward a repeal of the 2nd amendment and general gun control what would be the police mix:

    — effective policing; police given the resources for fast response and the backing for aggressively dealing with criminal scum
    — very tough on crime police–come down on criminals like a ton of bricks–executions and long sentences (or expulsion)
    — appreciation for the differing firearms needs for people in rural areas (far from police and with animal control needs)
    — understand of the needs of the role and needs of legitimate sportsmen
    — rule-of-law without fear or favor; law is enforced fairly and equally
    — zero impulse toward tyranny, and scrupulous observance of citizens rights from politicians, bureaucrats and the establishment generally

    What do we actually see?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  45. @BostonTea

    Boston Tea, Whites not pulling their weight, slackers.

  46. Maybe there is some design flaw in modern firearms that causes Black people to accidentally fire these guns. Could manufacturers add additional safety devices that could better protect Black people?

    The data clearly shows that Black people are disproportionately injured and killed by guns. We have to do something about this. Because even with all the new Haitians arriving, we don’t have an unlimited number of Black folks. Certainly no where near the number we need.

  47. @Dan Smith

    Dan, and last week, multiple shootings in the Greater Toronto Area with multiple victims and one common feature in all of them. Canada, as a country, did not have slavery or Jim Crow Laws and was the terminus on the Underground Railroad. So why is this in an anti gun country?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  48. @Arclight

    Arc, we are far from that point. When you have child shooting victims, who are sometimes only a few months old, in multiple cities and the community doesn’t react in a way that shows they care, then they don’t really care.

  49. 2BR says:
    @Joe Stalin

    I have not found Jews to be any more antigun than anyone else in our Northeast or Northern California.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    , @bingobongo
  50. @Buffalo Joe

    I largely agree. However, you notice that black families of victims are not allowed by media to speak for themselves. You don’t really see media covering the constant flow of victims and their families. The media doesn’t focus on the suffering nor allow rational voices to be heard. The media only allow certain blacks to speak. I am not excusing failings of folks in the black community on this issue. However, the media is quite culpable in their ignoring and concealing the more compelling scenes of suffering and calls for change. Only liberals and their hand picked blacks get to speak.

    Further, the evil scum in the DA’s office allow the snitches to be murdered by immediately releasing violent offenders back into the communities they have abused.

  51. @guest007

    Whites do not move into core urban areas unless they are wealthy or the children of the wealthy…

    …or queer. No children to pay for or protect.

    • Replies: @guest007
  52. @Buffalo Joe

    Canada, as a country, did not have slavery or Jim Crow Laws and was the terminus on the Underground Railroad. So why is this in an anti gun country?

    Limeys think Canada’s a pro-gun country. Had they only took* the Scots’ guns away in 1995.

    *H/T Mr Pincher Martin

    • Replies: @Pincher Martin
  53. Jack D says:
    @Arclight

    At this point all we can do is avoid areas where things like this are bound to happen.

    With all the sidewalk dining in NY due to Covid and rich people who wear Rolex watches and other expensive jewelry, there’s a fashionable new crime on the Upper East Side (one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in the US). You drive by and park at the curb and a couple of thugs rob the sidewalk diners of their jewelry at gunpoint and then you zip off. The whole thing is over in seconds.

    https://abc7ny.com/philippe-chow-shooting-nyc-upper-east-side-restaurant-manhattan/11024367/#:~:text=UPPER%20EAST%20SIDE%2C%20Manhattan%20(WABC,Chow%20on%20East%2060th%20Street.

  54. @Arclight

    At this point all we can do is avoid areas where things like this are bound to happen and allow the body count to rise to the point that it’s so intolerable that the progressive politicians who control these areas are finally forced to do something about it or are voted out by fed up constituents.

    Now see, I like long sentences like that, which start out logically but descend quickly into comic relief.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  55. @2BR

    I have not found Jews to be any more antigun than anyone else in our Northeast or Northern California.

    The Jewish suburbs of Chicago like Morton Grove, Skokie are well known for their anti-gun proclivities; Deerfield, IL (Look at the Trustees that voted) their last atrocity with the “assault weapon” ban.

    Illinois Appellate Court upholds Deerfield’s ban on assault weapons, partially overturning a lower court ruling

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/deerfield/ct-dfr-appellate-court-assault-weapons-tl-1210-20201208-wh2q5umdfzhlxe2iz3ubcqixwq-story.html

  56. @Reg Cæsar

    It’s just sad to see a man laughing alone at his own jokes. If only you were as funny as you believe yourself to be, then the rest if us could get some enjoyment out of your writing, too.

    Have you bought that book on the history of English grammar that I suggested for you?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  57. guest007 says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I believe Steve has written about homosexual males are being urban pioneers because they can move into neighborhoods with old homes that can be remodeled before anyone else. They can live in a house while they remodel and they sell at a profit while helping to improve the neighborhood.

  58. @Pincher Martin

    What should I of wrote?

    Have you bought that book on the history of English grammar that I suggested for you?

    Lemme guess… you’re an Amazon affiliate, and get a commission. Nice try.

    • Replies: @Pincher Martin
  59. Arclight says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    True – it’s going to take another 30,000 plus dead black bodies and who knows how many permanently maimed people before the winds will shift. It took a long time through the crack years before even Democratic politicians were demanding a more punitive approach to criminal justice.

  60. @Reg Cæsar

    Nope. I don’t care how you get educated. I just wish you would.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  61. epebble says:

    O/T: An Accidental Revolutionary has died from Covid. Looks like he was an Anti-Vaxer too.

    George Holliday, who filmed Rodney King video, dies of COVID

    https://apnews.com/article/health-violence-los-angeles-coronavirus-pandemic-rodney-king-017eaf6c0394a6330e3a75537bbed3ed

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  62. @Pincher Martin

    You don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Who axed you anyway?

    • Replies: @Pincher Martin
  63. @Reg Cæsar

    You don’t think it be like it is, but it do.

    Oh, but it is like I think it is. I’m not surprised, though, you won’t make the effort to educate yourself. Your knowledge of grammar probably calcified sometime in your early twenties and you haven’t made many improvements since. And like many people who learn a little knowledge early in life, but not much afterwards, you overrate its importance and accuracy.

    Who axed you anyway?

    I don’t have a clue what you mean.

  64. @Pincher Martin

    “Who axed you anyway?

    — I don’t have a clue what you mean.”

    Whoops, there it is: if you didn’t get that one, then you forfeit the match to Reg.

    btw, both of youse chums: the best way to learn grammar is not to study grammar textbooks, it’s to study how grammar works in other people’s languages. English has practically no grammar at all, so your work is cut out for you.

  65. @AnotherDad

    Strongly agree.

    Take Mexico and Japan, two countries with extremely strict gun control. In Mexico, the government works hand-in-hand with the Narcos. Violence is endemic, ordinary citizens cannot defend themselves. In Japan, the government maintains order and it is a homogeneous society of shared values. Violence is rare. America would be like Mexico.

  66. @epebble

    George Holliday was a super spreader of racial violence. Think of the lives that would have been spared, the businesses that would not have been destroyed, the rage that would not have been incited had he not released hat tape. I wonder if he had regrets?

    The photographer who took the picture of the ARVN officer executing a VC prisoner subsequently regretted having taken that photo, saying the situation was portrayed completely out of context. And how about the photographer who took the picture of the drowned Syrian boy on the beach? Suleiman the Magnificent would have envied his success.

    • Replies: @epebble
  67. Gee don’t the gun toting blacks know we must flatten the curve so as to not overwhelm the hospitals. You know we need plenty of free time for nurses to practice their tiktok dance routines. Perhaps while carrying a firearm, all black remain 6 ft apart while wearing Kevlar face masks. Hopefully a vaccine will be devised to stop blacks from shooting other blacks,

  68. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Whoops, there it is: if you didn’t get that one, then you forfeit the match to Reg.

    Nope. I have no clue what he means. But why don’t you enlighten me.

    btw, both of youse chums: the best way to learn grammar is not to study grammar textbooks, it’s to study how grammar works in other people’s languages. English has practically no grammar at all, so your work is cut out for you.

    Well, no shit. What do you think I’ve been saying since the beginning of this discussion? For someone who is quick to declare the winner in a debate, you don’t seem to follow it very well.

  69. epebble says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    His experimenting with a newly bought video camera affected our lives too! We were in Los Angeles, newly married, new job, expecting a child when this showed up on TV. I immediately sensed we may be having a George Floyd type situation in L.A. (In 1991). At that time, I was not even aware of Watts riots of 1965. I was off by a year; the Rodney King Riots actually took place in 1992. But, I decided to leave L.A. anyway and moved to north San Diego County. I am now a (sorta) believer in Chaos theory!

  70. @2BR

    the antigun “movement” is astroturf funded by the tribal oligarchs i.e. bloomberg.

  71. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Whoops, there it is: if you didn’t get that one, then you forfeit the match to Reg.

    Are you picking up a corvine vibe from this fellow? Add the crow’s and the pincher’s and Richard Taylor’s word counts and it pushes three million, a mark perhaps only Priss Factor has reached. (Not including any comments she made as “Priss Factory”.)

    …the best way to learn grammar is not to study grammar textbooks, it’s to study how grammar works in other people’s languages.

    I’ve studied about a dozen, including German, Russian, and Finnish. Even took (/have taken) a stab at Latin. Grammar is no stranger. I’ve made the case here that Finnish’s sixteen cases are easier, much easier, than the 4-7 of many Indo-European tongues.

    • Replies: @Pincher Martin
  72. @Reg Cæsar

    Are you picking up a corvine vibe from this fellow? Add the crow’s and the pincher’s and Richard Taylor’s word counts and it pushes three million, a mark perhaps only Priss Factor has reached. (Not including any comments she made as “Priss Factory”.)

    So you’re a language expert who doesn’t like to write and distrusts those who do? Makes perfect sense.

    Apparently, some people know how to write and enjoy it. Other people write lines like “Who axed you?” when they aren’t pimping for their favorite antiquated grammatical constructs. But they distrust words so much that they look at a high word count as a mark of suspicion.

    We now know what category you’re in. (And I’m just fine ending my sentence with a preposition, thank you very much.)

    I’ve studied about a dozen, including German, Russian, and Finnish. Even took (/have taken) a stab at Latin. Grammar is no stranger. I’ve made the case here that Finnish’s sixteen cases are easier, much easier, than the 4-7 of many Indo-European tongues. [My emphasis added in bold.]

    What do foreign grammars have to do with English grammar? We aren’t in the seventeenth century when English language experts were classicists who wanted to impose Latin grammar on their native tongue because they felt Latin was the perfect language.

    I’ve studied Chinese, and a little Japanese and French. Knowledge of those languages doesn’t help me to write English.

  73. @Pincher Martin

    “For someone who is quick to declare the winner in a debate, you don’t seem to follow it very well.”

    Workin’ for free here, laddie; workin’ for free.

    “I’ve studied Chinese, and a little Japanese and French. Knowledge of those languages doesn’t help me to write English.”

    Yes, we noticed.

    • Replies: @Pincher Martin
  74. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Workin’ for free here, laddie; workin’ for free.

    Doesn’t mean your judgment, when offered, has to be worthless.

    Yes, we noticed.

    You pretty much just admitted that you haven’t noticed anything that’s been said in our debate. But that’s okay. You’ve also acknowledged that you comment here for free, and that the readers of your comments will just have to get what they pay for.

  75. eah says:

    LOL — you’re still pushing this virtue-signalling nonsense — unbelievable — I guess no more is to be expected from a neutered ‘anti-racist citizenist conservativecuck’.

    A lot of important people have a lot of blood on their hands from promoting Black Lives Murdered.

    No, the only people who have ‘blood on their hands’ are the ones pulling the triggers.

    You have a forest vs trees problem — you focus on trees (data) but ignore the forest: re homicide, it’s overwhelmingly members of the cancerous black ghetto thug caste who are eliminating each other at a somewhat faster rate — at the moment, this is nothing for a righteous white man to be concerned about.

    Bitte zur Kenntnis nehmen.

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