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It sounds like all this #BlackGirlMagic / #RacialReckoning / #Intersectionality hype might be taking a toll on Naomi Osaka, the torch-lighter who just went out in the third round of the Olympic tennis tournament, and Simone Biles.

The media wants these poor girls to embody #BlackSupremacy and #FemaleSupremacy. That’s a lot to ask of anybody.

 
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  1. Biles ,Osaka, U.S,women’s soccer ,men basketball “dream” team choke like dogs……..HURRAH! for red headed Alaskan kid.

  2. That white lady in the pic is getting dangerously close to that girl’s hair!

    • LOL: Mr. Grey
  3. OT but not really Alex Berenson proves that Fauci and Murthy are con artists unworthy of being called doctors.
    https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/here-we-go-again

    … the way public health authorities define vaccinated is NOT the way most people think of being vaccinated. Had one shot of either the Pfizer or Moderna mRNA vaccines? You’re not vaccinated. Had two? Still not vaccinated, not for two weeks.

    In countries where health authorities are more honest, statistics on hospitalizations and deaths have three categories – “fully” vaccinated, “partially” vaccinated, and “unvaccinated.” Many cases fall in the middle category. In fact, data show that the vaccines can cause an increase in infections and deaths for up to two weeks after the first dose, possibly because they temporarily suppress immunity by recruiting so many white blood cells to the area of the injection.

    The truth is that if we were treating vaccines like other drugs, we would include the “partially” vaccinated cases in the “vaccinated” category because they have occurred AFTER treatment has begun.

    The United States does the opposite. When it reports statistics on vaccine hospitalizations or deaths, it ignores partly vaccinated people. They are lumped with those who have never received a dose as “unvaccinated.”

    This trick is particularly galling now that the vaccine companies and the government have acknowledged the fact that the mRNA shots begin to lose their protective effect in a matter of months and that many people will need boosters soon.

  4. This seems so very un-black … what happened to their innate overblown sense of self-esteem?

    • Replies: @donut
    @The Alarmist

    Reality .

  5. Wow, these black Super Girls are dropping from the Olympics like flies! First Naomi, now Simone (not to mention Shacarri Richardson). Where’s the black girl magic when you really need it??? I guess the whole George Floyd thing still has them too upset to concentrate on their day jobs. Sad.

  6. Anon[422] • Disclaimer says:

    I noticed that yesterday there was a sudden spurt of “physics” articles about Biles:

    The physics behind the extraordinary feats Biles is expected to pull off at the Summer Games
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-simone-biles-does-her-most-difficult-gymnastics-moves-11627320600

    The Wall Street Journal asked physicist Eric Goff, a professor at the University of Lynchburg, to analyze the scientific underpinning of the extraordinary feats she is expected to pull off at t these Olympics.

    Wired has a bunch of differential calculus prominently displayed in their piece:

    The Incredible Physics of Simone Biles’ Yurchenko Double Pike
    https://www.wired.com/story/the-incredible-physics-of-simone-biles-yurchenko-double-pike/

    Watch Simone Biles Hit a Physics-Defying Triple-Double in Super Slo-Mo
    https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/648814/simone-biles-triple-double-slo-mo-video

    There seems to be an emphasis on “physics” in writing about her. I wonder if this is an unconscious (implicit bias?) tendency to attribute whenever possible and however obliquely powers to blacks (in this case STEM cognitive ability) that the reporters at all these woke publication know in their hearts blacks don’t have. (“She’s a great physicist at the Olympics! Who cares if there are no black physicists with Nobel prizes!”) The Chandra Prescod-Weinstein view seems to be that there is some sort of hidden alternative physics that blacks have access to and would have invented and used to ride us to Alpha Centauri had only there not been colonialization of Africa, slavery, Jim Crow, and redlining. We need to recover this wisdom, and maybe Simone Biles combined with closer study of the Lebombo bone and the Ishango bone will help in that effort.

    • Thanks: Just another serf
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Anon

    The point is obviously to educate the unwoke as to the fact that Biles spent hours every evening calculating the integers and differentials that she would physically practice the next day.

  7. The huge weight and expectation Simone has on her. Hoping she’s OK and has support. She is an incredible woman.

    Plus the IOC the IOC is not going to give her the scores she deserves so why bother. This is pure racism. A white gymnast performing half as good would get scores twice as good

    It is hard to be a Black Woman and have to deal with racism and white supremacy AND have to serve a white supremacist society in its quest for olympic glory.

    Hopefully all the losers criticising her will reevlaute their lives and do something productive instead of bashing a strong CHAMPION Woman of Colour.

    She will be back and DOMINATE the individual compettions

    The basketball team will KILL IT in the end

    Womens soccer will KILL IT and you guys can go back to fuming about demographic change

    I have noticed that the USA DOMINATES sports where they are diverse and suck a fatty at white sports

    That tells you something right there

    Your day is coming racists and deniers

    • Replies: @Possumman
    @Tiny Duck

    Must not be watching the swimming

    , @JimDandy
    @Tiny Duck

    Meanwhile, in other Girl Boss Olympian news, progressive authorities are reminding women who are celebrated for participating in violent sports that when it comes down to it they are delicate little flowers with no agency.

    https://wgntv.com/news/judo-coach-warned-after-slapping-female-competitor-before-olympic-bout/

    , @TWS
    @Tiny Duck

    This gets only a 2/10 quacks. Come on man, where's the white women chase black Johnson? Where's the poor spelling and ridiculous claims of a black tide sweeping over a white world?

    You throw a funny black pill most times, why this soggy limp-wristed pitch?

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd

    , @Donald A Thomson
    @Tiny Duck

    It's all crap about black fragility. People who'll cheerfully steal in front of TV cameras aren't fragile. They have hides like elephants.

    Why do athletes of all races run away from competitions? They're scared they'll fail the drug tests. I remember a Central American games years ago where they weren't going to have drug tests. At the last moment, they announced a change of plan. About a third of the US team immediately became ill and went home. "Just a coincidence" lied the Yanks.

    The only reason Olympics drug cheating punishment changed from life to a maximum suspension of 2 years is because a US judge decided it was cruel and unusual punishment for a black US drug cheat to be banned for life and, if he was, he could sue the Olympics organisers for damages for trying to stop US cheating. When even US judges support US drug cheating, it's not rare.

    Biles is no orphan; US Blacks using drugs isn't unusual. Lance Armstrong lives again with a different sex and skin colour.

    Of course, you can always say "oh the fragility, the black super sensitivity, we're all pussies". I don't even believe you're that weak. Prove me wrong. Such an absurd claim will need supporting evidence. For example, if you claim that you're a heterosexual man but, when you were 16, an unarmed 13 year old boy raped you in the street and you were too afraid to say no, it'd have to be supported with an offer to provide statutory declarations from the laughing witnesses. [email protected]

  8. Osaka went out in the third round. As for Simone, she just had a bad hair day.

  9. Simone Biles needs coaches who look like her. Gymnastics officials who look like her. Video camera operators who look like her.

    She will never be able to lead us into the future unless all whites are replaced with people who look like her.

    Also, hair. Something about hair.

    • LOL: europeasant
  10. Black athletes choking at the critical moment is quite a theme these days.

    No doubt we’ll be treated to endless lectures about it for the next couple of years, until they decide to peremptorily give all the medals to the black kids.

  11. This could be far-fetched. But also, it could be true.

    It isn’t for the first time that children suffer because of deranged adults’ mythologies. These black girls are basically children.

    • Agree: Muggles
  12. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:

    Received seven perfect 10’s. Nadia Comăneci, the true GOAT.

    Nadia’s Theme (Henry Mancini):

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Anonymous

    The incredible grace.. my youngest is fourteen and looks just like that.. a moment in time but very moving. Thank you.

  13. I stand corrected- not quite children, but definitely pressured by the intersectionality of blackness & femaleness.

  14. Perhaps she was emotionally distressed by the breaking news that the racist school to prison pipeline is real, and she couldn’t concentrate on something as trivial as a tumbling competition.
    https://www.bing.com/search?q=School-to-prison+pipeline+new+study&efirst=4&filters=tnTID%3a%2281B0CFCA-E91D-44bc-A618-EEB27C5FC1B4%22+tnVersion%3a%224156335%22+Segment%3a%22popularnow.carousel%22+tnCol%3a%224%22+tnOrder%3a%22d6da5929-ad9b-4880-925f-9d60485e7a8d%22&form=HPNN01
    The geniuses at several leading universities found that black and brown people are more likely to be disciplined in school and also more likely to go to prison, therefore disciplining kids in school for their misbehavior causes them to be imprisoned when they grow up.
    We can keep them out of prison by simply eliminating school discipline.

    • Replies: @guest
    @Alfa158

    Schoo-to-prison pipeline = turning 18 and facing different consequences for the same type of behavior that didn’t previously send you to prison

    I see three ways to plug up this pipe:

    1. send children to prison

    2. stop sending adults to prison

    3. tell black people to stop committing crimes

    Because it’s easy to avoid being Super Mario crouching over this pipe. Just don’t commit crimes.

    , @Dieter Kief
    @Alfa158


    We can keep them out of prison by simply eliminating school discipline.
     
    A solution. Hurrah! - That took its time. - But then, if it works, it'll make people happy!

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @guest

    , @kaganovitch
    @Alfa158

    The geniuses at several leading universities found that black and brown people are more likely to be disciplined in school and also more likely to go to prison, therefore disciplining kids in school for their misbehavior causes them to be imprisoned when they grow up.

    Correlation does not equal causation is White supremacy!

    , @Gaspar DeLaFunk
    @Alfa158

    Or simply keep them out of school!

  15. It may not be good for her mental health, but Naomi Osaka shows how much one benefits from being black. There are massive systemic benefits.

  16. This mental illness thing seems to be quite contagious.

    Those English soccer players who missed their penalty kicks did the right thing in taking a private jet to the Cayman Islands for a mental health break.

    Biles has said that there are more important things in life than sport. Precisely! It is not like she is a highly paid professional athlete or anything. She should just have fun jumping and running and tumbling, but not to the extent of making it an obsession.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Jonathan Mason

    Yep. And does it have anything to do with the Spare's incessant yammering about mental health? I think so.

    About Simone, I feel sorry for her. I think a bit of the commenting here is a bit mean-spirited. She is hardly fragile. Biles is the greatest gymnast ever. Gymnastics is hell on the body, very unhealthy, injury rate is crazy.

    There was probably a lot of pressure for her to repeat and her mind just said "no." She's lucky she didn't get injured with a mindset like that.

    Re: Osaka, she crashed out in the third round, not the first. Ash Barty lost in the first.

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Jonathan Mason

    On the other hand it could be the steroids that have psychological side effects.

    Replies: @Barnard, @Zoos, @Mike Tre

    , @PaceLaw
    @Jonathan Mason

    “This mental illness thing seems to be quite contagious.”

    Absolutely spot on! Or, should we say excuse making is contagious? In the not too distant past, our heroes, for whatever their personal flaws, relished being the deciding factor in the game and actually wanted to take the last shot (see Ray Lewis or Michael Jordan). Now, due to this mental health contagion, our champions would rather take a seat or find an excuse for not participating. A very curious development indeed.

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Jonathan Mason


    She should just have fun jumping and running and tumbling
     
    Okay, but not in the Whole Foods parking lot ffs.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jonathan Mason


    Those English soccer players who missed their penalty kicks did the right thing in taking a private jet to the Cayman Islands for a mental health break.
     
    And a tax break? Will they stay for 182 days?

    Probably not-- they've lost their endorsement opportunities, haven't they?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @gent

    , @Anonymous
    @Jonathan Mason

    What she said, per Piers Morgan:

    Then Biles said something really extraordinary and illuminating: 'I feel like I'm also not having as much fun. This Olympic Games, I wanted it to be for myself, but I came in and I felt like I was still doing it for other people. It hurts my heart that doing what I love has been kind of taken away from me to please other people.'

  17. She can’t breathe.

    • LOL: Old Prude
  18. “We’ve just been told that, with regards to Simone withdrawing, it is not injury-related. It is a mental issue that Simone is having.”

    Based on this additional information, my best guess is that she’s having a “bad hair” day.

  19. That White coach exercising supremacy with her hand on Simone’s neck. Is she touching Simone’s hair?

  20. I think part of it is the nihilism of this moment of black ethnocentric politics. There are no laws to be passed and there are no real problems with racism. So without that and without a plan for self-determination, it probably is getting depressing to people other than criminally-inclined males aged 18-24.

    If there was some objective this black ethnocentric politicisation was working towards, something positive, the establishment of African-American self-determination, a homeland. Otherwise maybe that unmet need just makes it depressing like for Native Americans who faced into oblivion and white Americans. Whipping people up into an ethnocentric frenzy and telling them the majority population is against them and creating antagonism is pretty depressing when you have to live with those people day to day.

    There certainly isn’t a plan to elevate blacks socio-economically in play. Black politicisation is stuck in the 60s, LARPing the civil rights movement with no leadership to move it forward.

    As I’ve said before, what happened in 2020 looks like the beginning a nationalist movement for independence. But it is frustrated by nobody being able to articulate this and nobody much having any affection for any of the proposed black homelands. The lack of this need being met is probably quite depressing.

    • Agree: Boomthorkell
    • Replies: @Currahee
    @Altai

    Homeland, yes.

    , @Pixo
    @Altai

    “this black ethnocentric politicisation was working towards, something positive, the establishment of African-American self-determination, a homeland.”

    It’s called Metro Atlanta.

    Georgia has now passed Louisiana, Alabama, Maryland and South Carolina to become the 2nd blackest state. It’s not on trend to ever pass Mississippi but who knows.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Altai


    If there was some objective this black ethnocentric politicisation was working towards, something positive, the establishment of African-American self-determination, a homeland. Otherwise maybe that unmet need just makes it depressing like for Native Americans who faced into oblivion and white Americans. Whipping people up into an ethnocentric frenzy and telling them the majority population is against them and creating antagonism is pretty depressing when you have to live with those people day to day.
     
    Good stuff.

    Altai you're on a roll with excellent comments. You had one on Japan--that population cycles are no big deal if you keep your people intact--that i never got around to commenting on. Several more excellent ones, including a couple good one's yesterday.

    Yeah, i respect actual "black nationalists"--especially if they are realists about black dysfunction and just think "we need to do it ourselves; no other way". It would be a mess ... but it would be their mess.

    But minoritarianism is not a mentally healthy ideology--"you're oppressing us! give us more stuff! give us more stuff! you're mean! give me a cookie!" What are you, three?

    Look how much more mentally healthy seem the Jews--real Zionists who live in Israel, or Orthodox committed to their community, or patriots like Stephen Miller throwing in with whitey--who take responsibility for themselves, compared to the minoritarian, ADL types still blabbing about the Golfocaust or Harvard quotas or (the non-existent but ever rising) "anti-Semitism".

    There's just no end the ways "responsibility" is better than "dependency" and "blame". Including different peoples being in separate nations, responsible for and governing themselves.

    Replies: @Charon, @Triteleia Laxa, @martin_2, @Almost Missouri, @anon

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Altai

    https://twitter.com/bronzeagemantis/status/1420122827185926152

    , @Lurker
    @Altai


    Whipping people up into an ethnocentric frenzy and telling them the majority population is against them and creating antagonism is pretty depressing when you have to live with those people day to day.
     
    Pretty depressing for the majority white population too.
    , @Hi There
    @Altai


    There certainly isn’t a plan to elevate blacks socio-economically in play.
     
    Yes there is. Black people are doing a lot better in lots of fields. I personally know lots of black people who grew up in low income environments and have become middle class productive nurses or other health care workers. Their bosses and clients like them. It's a win-win.
  21. Osaka went out in the third round.

  22. @Jonathan Mason
    This mental illness thing seems to be quite contagious.

    Those English soccer players who missed their penalty kicks did the right thing in taking a private jet to the Cayman Islands for a mental health break.

    Biles has said that there are more important things in life than sport. Precisely! It is not like she is a highly paid professional athlete or anything. She should just have fun jumping and running and tumbling, but not to the extent of making it an obsession.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Jonathan Mason, @PaceLaw, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    Yep. And does it have anything to do with the Spare’s incessant yammering about mental health? I think so.

    About Simone, I feel sorry for her. I think a bit of the commenting here is a bit mean-spirited. She is hardly fragile. Biles is the greatest gymnast ever. Gymnastics is hell on the body, very unhealthy, injury rate is crazy.

    There was probably a lot of pressure for her to repeat and her mind just said “no.” She’s lucky she didn’t get injured with a mindset like that.

    Re: Osaka, she crashed out in the third round, not the first. Ash Barty lost in the first.

  23. Anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:

    Blacks have rarely impressed me with emotional resiliency. The tons and tons of YouTube vids one can find of this or that black girl diving into a black brawl, and fighting until naked, that can seem like some kind of resiliency, is just immaturity and pathology.

    This is the same reason inserting blacks into Ivy League schools via affirmative action channels is a horrible idea. They tend to choke under the load. IQ aside, they lack mental toughness.

    Conclusion: Dad’s matter. Most black folks don’t have one worth a damn, as seen here.

  24. The narrative took another hit.

    Their aspirations (the press) were relentless and unlimited.

    Biles breaking wasn’t inevitable, but the narrative crumbling was.

  25. Anonymous[232] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m sure she feels internal pressure to win. And there is some external pressure to do well, big money sponsorships and such. But if you look at what actually happened, it’s clear how little external pressure was actually placed on her by the media, the public and even USA gymnastics. This was among the worst possible outcomes. She quit in the middle of the team event, not even individual event, and not because she was hurt, but because of what appears to be a kind of tantrum (maybe it’s something more than that, but I say appears because this is all we know for the moment) and still the response is overwhelming support. People are literally saying they are proud of her for quitting on her team. Any pressure to do well seems to have been imaginary.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    @Anonymous

    Pressure comes in different forms. There's a passive-aggressive nature to over-praise. Adulation is a prison. The absurd praise for quitting is just a continuation of the same perverse white masochist's worship, and if blacks had perception in these matters they would disdain it. It reveals how much the praise is false, dishonest signaling, in that it can only intensify when contradicted.
    Black girls, being magic, are not allowed to be human. Being a vector for the elites' destruction of society is exhausting, I guess.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

  26. https://web.archive.org/web/20210727141257/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/27/sports/tennis/naomi-osaka-upset.html

    Now, the Olympics have lost the athlete who most embodied the hope and joy of the Games. Naomi Osaka, the Japanese tennis superstar who lit the caldron during the opening ceremony, was eliminated in the third round of the women’s singles tournament.

    Osaka, who is ranked No. 2 in the world, lost, 6-1, 6-4, to Marketa Vondrousova of the Czech Republic, who is ranked No. 42, in barely more than one hour, a stunning upset that ended her run at the Tokyo Games.

    • LOL: Old Prude
  27. I have seen ample evidence of black fragility in various endeavors- exhaustion from having to explain racism, against perceived slights about hair, from being at the bottom of the class in law school….

    But this I am skeptical of. Black athletes, both male and female, have been competing and winning at the highest stages of most sports for decades. There has never been a patterned problem with them having to drop out due to pressure. Biles has competed and won numerous highly visible competitions with plenty of pressure to be the best. It was not a problem for her. You don’t become an Olympic level athlete and then one day just decide to quit because of mental stress. No one makes it to the Olympics with such mentality.

    My suspicion is that she has covid and wants to make some other excuse so she doesn’t get negative press for refusing to get vaccinated. They said members of the gymnastics team had it. Why not her? As for why she is claiming a mental rather than physical problem, perhaps she or her handlers decided she would get more sympathy and attention from claiming mental health issues since that is a fad now.

    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
    @Spangel226

    Don't forget "England's" PK meltdown in the Euro soccer final.

    Supa Affletes!

  28. @Jonathan Mason
    This mental illness thing seems to be quite contagious.

    Those English soccer players who missed their penalty kicks did the right thing in taking a private jet to the Cayman Islands for a mental health break.

    Biles has said that there are more important things in life than sport. Precisely! It is not like she is a highly paid professional athlete or anything. She should just have fun jumping and running and tumbling, but not to the extent of making it an obsession.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Jonathan Mason, @PaceLaw, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    On the other hand it could be the steroids that have psychological side effects.

    • Disagree: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Barnard
    @Jonathan Mason

    What I am reading is that they banned adderall which Biles takes for ADHD. She had been allowed to take it in the past and I believe she was on it when she competed in Rio. I don't see how taking something to improve concentration is any less performance enhancing than a sprinter taking steroids to improve speed.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Zoos
    @Jonathan Mason


    On the other hand it could be the steroids that have psychological side effects.
     
    Possibly, but we know for a fact she has ADHD to beat the band, and the Olympic committee gave her a special waver allowing her to partake in whatever Ritalin prescription her doctors deem fit.

    She’s been on it for years.

    Her parents background are sketch. They dumped her off into the foster home network, her grandparents eventually found out, adopted her, and became her new parents. They appear to have done a better job than they did with their kid who had her. Again, details are sketch.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Mike Tre
    @Jonathan Mason

    This is the hormone equivalent of a flat-earther.

  29. Mental fragility is going to be a huge thing going forward in sports, amateur as well as professional.

    Just the other day, a star catcher for the Chicago White Sox said he was done with baseball. And then one day later changed his mind. Contrast: When a young Mickey Mantle broke down in tears after struggling in his rookie season, his Dad pulled out a suitcase and said, “Fine, let’s go home. I thought I had a raised a man.” This rest is baseball history.

    Up until now, “injuries” were the prime escape hatch for athletes driven to the brink. Back in 2008, one of China’s top male athletes was a hurdler. Right before the first race, he experienced a “pulled hamstring.” Too much pressure, especially with the games in his home country. I think the injury was psychosomatic (psychogenic, really, as in caused by the mind). The New York Yankees roster is filled with players under guaranteed contracts who are constantly bugging out with tightness in their quads or forearms. It’s a load of nonsense. If you pulled this stuff in 1949 it was back to the farm, so nobody pulled it.

    Now, as people become more accepting of mental fragility, the “mind-body” connection may no longer be needed to create psychogenic “injuries.” Just flaking out, mentally, will be enough.

    Paging General Patton.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Patrick in SC

    The amount of pressure that Oriental countries put on their star athletes on the International stage is intense. Their golfers tend to wilt in the final round of major championships, although this year a Japanese man finally won a major. In contrast, Japanese-American Collin Morikawa has already won 2 majors at age 24 and doesn't seem to have a nervous bone in his body.

    Replies: @JimDandy

  30. My wife is a former Olympic gymnast (from Hungary) and we were discussing this today. I was shocked how sympathetic she was to Simone. She said as you get older you start to fear the routines that when you were 16 you didn’t even think about. Simone had reduced the difficulty of her routines while performing and this was causing her to make mistakes on easier stuff.

    I think most of us can think back on things we did as kids and think wtf was i thinking. We weren’t.

    Hopefully she can regroup before the individual events.

    Okay, now back to the hair.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @GamecockJerry

    Yes, 23 is old for a female gymnast.

    And these events are scary.

    There's a general problem with the judged events that the competitors push to try ever more extreme stunts, with ever bigger risks of injury. The winter olympics have introduced in recent years some crazy X-men type events. There's a general concern about women competitors wrecking their knees on landings because they aren't as sturdy as men.

    I guess that Biles can do (or perhaps in the past tense could do) some tricks so dangerous that the officials won't give her extra credit for them.

  31. She must have accidentally read the latest from the Atlantic and went into a mental tailspin:

    His Name Was Emmett Till

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/09/barn-emmett-till-murder/619493/

  32. And woe to anyone who describes Ms. Biles as “fragile.”

    The Powers That Be will make sure your life is ruined.

  33. When humour was allowed it might have been said that Bile took the knee in her vault. The ‘medical’ issue is emotional incontinence. Viral among the follically fixated overclass (see Osaka, Williams).

  34. Osaka won her first match and lost her second. She did agree to meet with reporters after the match. A writer at Outkick compared it to Cam Newton being in disbelief he lost the Super Bowl than genuine social anxiety. She is obviously playing this up for attention. Genie Bouchard is Canadian tennis player who was considered the next big thing in tennis after she had a good year in 2014. She broke down crying at a match in Miami the next year and has never recovered. I have not heard her discuss it as a mental health problem, and she has not received the attention Osaka has. Probably because she doesn’t have black girl magic.

    NBC had made Biles the sole focus of the gymnastics team. My wife mentioned she was seeing people complaining about this on social media. The consensus seemed to be they were slighting the other gymnasts and treating Biles like she was the only one that mattered. I am sure she will be treated with fawning praise for dealing with her mental health issues like Osaka was. I wonder if the woke will try to take this out on NBC.

  35. If the UK script is to be followed, Ms Biles “choking” at the crunch (like the 3 soccer players) will provoke a “torrent” (i.e. double figures at least) of “racially abusive” posts, of which at least a few will come from the US and some may even be genuine.

    This will be proof that Ms Biles is a heroine for missing the contest, Pres Biden will call for various tweeters to be banned from everything, and no one in the media will mention the athletes who actually did compete, any more than anyone mentions the white guys who scored their penalties.

  36. Sung to the tune of “Backstabbers” (The O’Jays):

    I just wanna win first place,
    They say I gotta represent my race.
    The Blackstabbers
    (Blackstabbers!)

    They keep the pressure up,
    Then act surprised if I don’t measure up.
    The Blackstabbers
    (Blackstabbers!)

    Ay, ay-ay-ay-ay-ay
    Low down, dirty
    Da da da da-da-da, da da da
    (What they do?)

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @the one they call Desanex

    Good to see you voxxin' and a poppin'. Now try "For The Love of Money."

  37. It IS a lot to ask of these girls, but it’s not about them. It’s about narcissistic “well-educated” white liberals trying to feel good about themselves.

  38. One way to ensure you’re the GOAT is always be injured for the showdowns.

  39. nobody much having any affection for any of the proposed black homelands

    Is that why Mr Trump wanted to buy Greenland? With Global Warming it might be just the spot.

  40. “ The media wants these poor girls to embody #BlackSupremacy and #FemaleSupremacy. That’s a lot to ask of anybody.”

    They embraced it. I have no sympathy for them.

    But this is another great example how supposed high self esteem blacks actually don’t.

  41. The media have names. We should think about how these particular human beings found themselves in such a position and strategies to help them find a better fit for their skills.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Desiderius


    The media have names. We should think about how these particular human beings found themselves in such a position and strategies to help them find a better fit for their skills.

     

    You may be onto something. We could help by sending them to mandatory, high-attrition vocational centers with inspirational slogans like “To Each they/them Own” and “Arby’s Makes Fries” and “Learn To Code”.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @AndrewR
    @Desiderius

    Here a member of the ruling class suggests "safe havens" for vaxxed people

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/564960-do-we-need-safe-havens-for-vaccinated-americans%3famp

    Here the NYT DOJ journalist calls all Republicans enemies of the state

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ktbenner/status/1420037852746878981

  42. @Altai
    I think part of it is the nihilism of this moment of black ethnocentric politics. There are no laws to be passed and there are no real problems with racism. So without that and without a plan for self-determination, it probably is getting depressing to people other than criminally-inclined males aged 18-24.

    If there was some objective this black ethnocentric politicisation was working towards, something positive, the establishment of African-American self-determination, a homeland. Otherwise maybe that unmet need just makes it depressing like for Native Americans who faced into oblivion and white Americans. Whipping people up into an ethnocentric frenzy and telling them the majority population is against them and creating antagonism is pretty depressing when you have to live with those people day to day.

    There certainly isn't a plan to elevate blacks socio-economically in play. Black politicisation is stuck in the 60s, LARPing the civil rights movement with no leadership to move it forward.

    As I've said before, what happened in 2020 looks like the beginning a nationalist movement for independence. But it is frustrated by nobody being able to articulate this and nobody much having any affection for any of the proposed black homelands. The lack of this need being met is probably quite depressing.

    Replies: @Currahee, @Pixo, @AnotherDad, @Almost Missouri, @Lurker, @Hi There

    Homeland, yes.

  43. The Daily Mail says Osaka lost in the third round.

  44. Superior athletes are always in danger of believing their own hype.

    Few actually want to “hype” themselves publicly since they are usually all too aware of how good their competition is compared to themselves.

    Yet our Soviet media can’t resist parroting the current propaganda line of black/female/trans/etc. “superiority” and the unblemished virtues of “diversity.”

    It is just more burden to bear when you are hyped to “win” because of irrelevant factors like this.

    So failure (or merely coming in second, or having a physical problem on the day of competition) becomes doubly hurtful.

    Decades of overblown propaganda never made the USSR (or any similar place) any better or more successful.

    Political Correctness poisons everyone’s well.

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
  45. When everyone tells you how awesome you are and you have every advantage in your favor and you still fail – I can see why that would cause depression as there are no more excuses. Same thing applies to black crime. All the money in the world poured into schools and social programs, and yet the urban youth simply won’t knock it off with the bad behavior and gun-play. No more excuses available. Now what? The answer seems to be either to lash out or withdraw, always blaming something or someone else in either case.

    One of my favorite athletes back in the day was Chris Evert. Evert was at the top of the game when young Martina Navratilova came on the scene, Evert has admitted that she knew Martina was a superior athlete, and would eventually dominate. But Evert remained stoic and gracious, even in defeat. Martina was often whiny and sullen on the court when things didn’t go her way, while Evert always tried to stay focused and find a way to win, and often did. I remember watching matches where Martina would sulk when her opponent hit a good shot, while you could often hear Evert say “Yep” or “Good Shot” when an opponent hit a clear winner. No matter what, she always kept her composure and carried herself with grace. In the end, she tied Martina for majors won (18), and their career head-to-head was almost even, with Martina just edging her out 43-37. Even though Evert was feminine and not particularly powerful, her mental game was unparalleled, and she used her creativity and finesse to outsmart her opponents. In the end, she never blamed anything or anyone else when things went wrong, and always kept fighting.

    • Thanks: Old Prude
  46. There was a movie with a similar theme (more drama, of course, and only white and asian girls – it was the dark days of 2006…): “Stick It” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stick_It)!

  47. @Jonathan Mason
    This mental illness thing seems to be quite contagious.

    Those English soccer players who missed their penalty kicks did the right thing in taking a private jet to the Cayman Islands for a mental health break.

    Biles has said that there are more important things in life than sport. Precisely! It is not like she is a highly paid professional athlete or anything. She should just have fun jumping and running and tumbling, but not to the extent of making it an obsession.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Jonathan Mason, @PaceLaw, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    “This mental illness thing seems to be quite contagious.”

    Absolutely spot on! Or, should we say excuse making is contagious? In the not too distant past, our heroes, for whatever their personal flaws, relished being the deciding factor in the game and actually wanted to take the last shot (see Ray Lewis or Michael Jordan). Now, due to this mental health contagion, our champions would rather take a seat or find an excuse for not participating. A very curious development indeed.

  48. @Altai
    I think part of it is the nihilism of this moment of black ethnocentric politics. There are no laws to be passed and there are no real problems with racism. So without that and without a plan for self-determination, it probably is getting depressing to people other than criminally-inclined males aged 18-24.

    If there was some objective this black ethnocentric politicisation was working towards, something positive, the establishment of African-American self-determination, a homeland. Otherwise maybe that unmet need just makes it depressing like for Native Americans who faced into oblivion and white Americans. Whipping people up into an ethnocentric frenzy and telling them the majority population is against them and creating antagonism is pretty depressing when you have to live with those people day to day.

    There certainly isn't a plan to elevate blacks socio-economically in play. Black politicisation is stuck in the 60s, LARPing the civil rights movement with no leadership to move it forward.

    As I've said before, what happened in 2020 looks like the beginning a nationalist movement for independence. But it is frustrated by nobody being able to articulate this and nobody much having any affection for any of the proposed black homelands. The lack of this need being met is probably quite depressing.

    Replies: @Currahee, @Pixo, @AnotherDad, @Almost Missouri, @Lurker, @Hi There

    “this black ethnocentric politicisation was working towards, something positive, the establishment of African-American self-determination, a homeland.”

    It’s called Metro Atlanta.

    Georgia has now passed Louisiana, Alabama, Maryland and South Carolina to become the 2nd blackest state. It’s not on trend to ever pass Mississippi but who knows.

  49. • Replies: @guest
    @Desiderius

    The Enlightenment has had all the lasting influence. It is still the dominant mindset. At least among the educated.

    Heck, even Satanists are enlightened, for Lucifer was Lord of Light.

    Of course, it is a deeply unnatural and untrue way of seeing the world. Which allows any number of counter-enlightenment to exploit it. Be they communist or romantic or anarchist or theocratic or whatever. None of them so far has won, but rather been made to compete with eachother within the context of enlightenment civilization. Even if they are deathly opposed to it.

    , @kaganovitch
    @Desiderius

    Who now reads Condillac, Mably and Shaftesbury?

    Yo Dawg, Condillac ain't a read, it's a ride. Word.

  50. The US lost its round 1 match to France in Basketball!

    https://www.nba.com/news/live-updates-team-usa-opens-olympic-play-vs-france

    • Replies: @anon
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    Consider a reaction gif of some Seinfeld character laughing and laughing inserted here.

  51. • Replies: @res
    @Desiderius

    Thanks. Here is a direct link to Anton's piece.
    https://americanmind.org/salvo/thats-not-happening-and-its-good-that-it-is/

    For a sample, I suspect all of us here recognize this one. Even if the name was new to me.


    The Celebration Parallax

    A parallax is the apparent difference in position of the same object seen from different vantage points. For instance, an analogue speedometer that reads sixty miles per hour to the driver, but fifty to the passenger—even though the needle itself is only in one place.

    The Celebration Parallax may be stated as: “the same fact pattern is either true and glorious or false and scurrilous depending on who states it.” In contemporary speech, on any “controversial” topic—or, to say better, regime priority—the decisive factor is the intent of the speaker. If she can be presumed to be celebrating the phenomenon under discussion, she may shout her approval from the rooftops. If not, he better shut up before someone comes along to shut him up.

    Note also that the key distinction here is celebration versus non-celebration, not support versus opposition.
     
    Here are the other six phenomena.
    The Law of Merited Impossibility
    The Law of Salutary Contradiction
    The Smails Exhortation
    The Lie-Back Imperative (note connection made there for this and the next to Steve's "War on Noticing")
    The Enmity Counteraccusation
    “You’re worthless, baby; and if you even think of trying to leave me, I’ll kill you”

    To be honest, none of those really resonate with me. Perhaps iSteve or someone else here can come up with catchier names for those phenomena? Or perhaps those will grow on me over time.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Jim Don Bob, @Neil Templeton, @Desiderius, @Kratoklastes

  52. Simone Biles is the greatest and did the right thing by not putting herself and her team in danger by not going out there when she wasnt %100

    Look at how the media and sports industyr has rallied around her

    That tells you something right there

    You losers have obvioulsy never known the touch of a woman and have never played sports

    Black Lives Matter

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @Tiny Duck

    Tiny Duck wrote:


    Simone Biles is the greatest and did the right thing by not putting herself and her team in danger by not going out there when she wasnt %100
     
    For once, you are probably on target.

    But for someone at Biles' level to just "lose it" does raise lots of interesting questions.

    One issue: have we moved too far towards a "winner-take-all" society in which all merely ordinary human beings are guaranteed to be "losers"?

    Replies: @El Dato

  53. @Alfa158
    Perhaps she was emotionally distressed by the breaking news that the racist school to prison pipeline is real, and she couldn’t concentrate on something as trivial as a tumbling competition.
    https://www.bing.com/search?q=School-to-prison+pipeline+new+study&efirst=4&filters=tnTID%3a%2281B0CFCA-E91D-44bc-A618-EEB27C5FC1B4%22+tnVersion%3a%224156335%22+Segment%3a%22popularnow.carousel%22+tnCol%3a%224%22+tnOrder%3a%22d6da5929-ad9b-4880-925f-9d60485e7a8d%22&form=HPNN01
    The geniuses at several leading universities found that black and brown people are more likely to be disciplined in school and also more likely to go to prison, therefore disciplining kids in school for their misbehavior causes them to be imprisoned when they grow up.
    We can keep them out of prison by simply eliminating school discipline.

    Replies: @guest, @Dieter Kief, @kaganovitch, @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    Schoo-to-prison pipeline = turning 18 and facing different consequences for the same type of behavior that didn’t previously send you to prison

    I see three ways to plug up this pipe:

    1. send children to prison

    2. stop sending adults to prison

    3. tell black people to stop committing crimes

    Because it’s easy to avoid being Super Mario crouching over this pipe. Just don’t commit crimes.

  54. Article correction: Osaka lost in the 3rd round.

  55. I think Osaka went out in the second round – I lost a bet against her in a match on Sunday.

    Good thread on Biles and the broader context here:

    https://twitter.com/tummymuncher/status/1420021796712206341?s=21

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Dave Pinsen

    I don't agree that Simone Biles is a "coward and a loser." Gymnastics is dangerous. Some E. European gymnast crippled herself with a bad move.

    If her mind wasn't all there, she was right to pull out.

    Also, it's Kerri Strug, not Strung. Or should I say (((Kerri Strug)))?

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  56. The Olympic games are supposed to pit the best against the best. Somehow, if our nation sends the whiny-est to compete against the best from other nations, the expected result will be the best athlete winning the competition and the whiny-est athlete whinying her way to oblivion.

  57. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/QuasLacrimas/status/1420013389703794694?s=20

    Replies: @guest, @kaganovitch

    The Enlightenment has had all the lasting influence. It is still the dominant mindset. At least among the educated.

    Heck, even Satanists are enlightened, for Lucifer was Lord of Light.

    Of course, it is a deeply unnatural and untrue way of seeing the world. Which allows any number of counter-enlightenment to exploit it. Be they communist or romantic or anarchist or theocratic or whatever. None of them so far has won, but rather been made to compete with eachother within the context of enlightenment civilization. Even if they are deathly opposed to it.

  58. Well don’t feel bad for Simone Biles…

    She had a Goat bedazzled onto her leotards (not the ones at the olympics though, I don’t think) to stand for her being The Greatest of All Time…and cuz Satan

    She was a fool. She has a great football bf. She should be *smart* enough to know that in gymnastics you are the Greatest for a few months…then your body matures…and then someone else is the Greatest. That’s Life.

    But she chose to be ass.

    Add these two girls to the UK football team losing cuz of 3 blacks.

  59. @Jonathan Mason
    This mental illness thing seems to be quite contagious.

    Those English soccer players who missed their penalty kicks did the right thing in taking a private jet to the Cayman Islands for a mental health break.

    Biles has said that there are more important things in life than sport. Precisely! It is not like she is a highly paid professional athlete or anything. She should just have fun jumping and running and tumbling, but not to the extent of making it an obsession.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Jonathan Mason, @PaceLaw, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    She should just have fun jumping and running and tumbling

    Okay, but not in the Whole Foods parking lot ffs.

  60. I think she’s injured. She could barely point her toes on the uneven bars the other night.

  61. Corporate America will be dealing with this problem with their black employees for decades.

    Expecting Tyrone and Shamiqua to wear suits and dresses and sit in the corporate boardroom ain’t gonna fly so great, so remember, we was kangz and ain’t nobody gonna put pressure on the “communitah.”

  62. @Desiderius
    The media have names. We should think about how these particular human beings found themselves in such a position and strategies to help them find a better fit for their skills.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @AndrewR

    The media have names. We should think about how these particular human beings found themselves in such a position and strategies to help them find a better fit for their skills.

    You may be onto something. We could help by sending them to mandatory, high-attrition vocational centers with inspirational slogans like “To Each they/them Own” and “Arby’s Makes Fries” and “Learn To Code”.

    • Thanks: Rob
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    “Arby’s Makes Fries”
     
    That would look good over the arch at Arbschwitz.

    A commenter here said there's a ranch in the California known locally as Cowschwitz. Here's a list (mercifully not a clickstream) showing the top agricultural county in each state. Some are no surprise-- Fresno in the Central Valley, Wyoming just off the Finger Lakes. But others are surprising: Maricopa (Phoenix), Dane (Madison), Palm Beach.

    Then again, as Sam Kinison put it much more crudely, living near the food supply is a good idea. Queens Farms dairy products were once made in Queens County. Before Fred Trump.


    Biggest farming county in every state

    Replies: @James Speaks, @Alfa158, @El Dato

  63. @Jonathan Mason
    This mental illness thing seems to be quite contagious.

    Those English soccer players who missed their penalty kicks did the right thing in taking a private jet to the Cayman Islands for a mental health break.

    Biles has said that there are more important things in life than sport. Precisely! It is not like she is a highly paid professional athlete or anything. She should just have fun jumping and running and tumbling, but not to the extent of making it an obsession.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Jonathan Mason, @PaceLaw, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    Those English soccer players who missed their penalty kicks did the right thing in taking a private jet to the Cayman Islands for a mental health break.

    And a tax break? Will they stay for 182 days?

    Probably not– they’ve lost their endorsement opportunities, haven’t they?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Reg Cæsar

    Rashford has family in St. Kitts, but I think it is closed because of Covid, but Caymans is nearby and open, plus these guys will get celebrity treatment there, but there are no tax breaks for 10-day vacations.

    A lot of professional soccer players have companies that handle their "image rights" in tax havens.

    Players like Lionel Messi have almost gone to prison over tax issues, because the Spanish government is pretty tough on tax evasion.

    Croatian star Luka Modric has also flirted with jail time over illegal payments, but usually these guys eventually pay out a few million dollars here and there to settle their tax debts.

    With all these tax problems to deal with it is no wonder that top flight athletes develop mental health problems!

    , @gent
    @Reg Cæsar

    Of course they haven't.

  64. @Alfa158
    Perhaps she was emotionally distressed by the breaking news that the racist school to prison pipeline is real, and she couldn’t concentrate on something as trivial as a tumbling competition.
    https://www.bing.com/search?q=School-to-prison+pipeline+new+study&efirst=4&filters=tnTID%3a%2281B0CFCA-E91D-44bc-A618-EEB27C5FC1B4%22+tnVersion%3a%224156335%22+Segment%3a%22popularnow.carousel%22+tnCol%3a%224%22+tnOrder%3a%22d6da5929-ad9b-4880-925f-9d60485e7a8d%22&form=HPNN01
    The geniuses at several leading universities found that black and brown people are more likely to be disciplined in school and also more likely to go to prison, therefore disciplining kids in school for their misbehavior causes them to be imprisoned when they grow up.
    We can keep them out of prison by simply eliminating school discipline.

    Replies: @guest, @Dieter Kief, @kaganovitch, @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    We can keep them out of prison by simply eliminating school discipline.

    A solution. Hurrah! – That took its time. – But then, if it works, it’ll make people happy!

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Dieter Kief

    No, we keep them out of prison by not making them go to school.

    , @guest
    @Dieter Kief

    It won’t work, of course. Which leads to the next logical step;

    stop punishing adult blacks for crimes.

    We’re already working on that by not policing very hard where they live, and making cops afraid to police blacks. But that ultimately won’t work either.

    Short of turning black turf into Mad Max.

  65. There’s no doubt a psychological toll from being built up by the media as a symbol.

  66. @Dieter Kief
    @Alfa158


    We can keep them out of prison by simply eliminating school discipline.
     
    A solution. Hurrah! - That took its time. - But then, if it works, it'll make people happy!

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @guest

    No, we keep them out of prison by not making them go to school.

  67. @Alfa158
    Perhaps she was emotionally distressed by the breaking news that the racist school to prison pipeline is real, and she couldn’t concentrate on something as trivial as a tumbling competition.
    https://www.bing.com/search?q=School-to-prison+pipeline+new+study&efirst=4&filters=tnTID%3a%2281B0CFCA-E91D-44bc-A618-EEB27C5FC1B4%22+tnVersion%3a%224156335%22+Segment%3a%22popularnow.carousel%22+tnCol%3a%224%22+tnOrder%3a%22d6da5929-ad9b-4880-925f-9d60485e7a8d%22&form=HPNN01
    The geniuses at several leading universities found that black and brown people are more likely to be disciplined in school and also more likely to go to prison, therefore disciplining kids in school for their misbehavior causes them to be imprisoned when they grow up.
    We can keep them out of prison by simply eliminating school discipline.

    Replies: @guest, @Dieter Kief, @kaganovitch, @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    The geniuses at several leading universities found that black and brown people are more likely to be disciplined in school and also more likely to go to prison, therefore disciplining kids in school for their misbehavior causes them to be imprisoned when they grow up.

    Correlation does not equal causation is White supremacy!

  68. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/QuasLacrimas/status/1420013389703794694?s=20

    Replies: @guest, @kaganovitch

    Who now reads Condillac, Mably and Shaftesbury?

    Yo Dawg, Condillac ain’t a read, it’s a ride. Word.

  69. Fitting that the biggest story out of these Olympics is a look-at-me emo thing

    • Replies: @Old Prude
    @Known Fact

    "Goat" has more than one meaning. G.O.A.T., which is getting a bit tiresome, and goat: An all-around screw-up (lowest GPA in the graduating class, e.g.). It looks like the emoji has a pleasingly ironic utility.

  70. It’ll also be implied (or stated) it’s YT’s fault, specifically American YTs who put too much expectation pressure on poor little simone – you know, greatest women’s gymnast ever, America’s sweetheart – what a crock. Frankly, I’d be surprised if even half the (former) country knows who the hell she is.

    • Replies: @JimB
    @usNthem

    Simone Biles is no Nadia Comaneci or Mary Lou Retton, that’s for sure. Biles probably should have been disqualified for having too high levels of testosterone.

  71. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Desiderius


    The media have names. We should think about how these particular human beings found themselves in such a position and strategies to help them find a better fit for their skills.

     

    You may be onto something. We could help by sending them to mandatory, high-attrition vocational centers with inspirational slogans like “To Each they/them Own” and “Arby’s Makes Fries” and “Learn To Code”.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    “Arby’s Makes Fries”

    That would look good over the arch at Arbschwitz.

    A commenter here said there’s a ranch in the California known locally as Cowschwitz. Here’s a list (mercifully not a clickstream) showing the top agricultural county in each state. Some are no surprise– Fresno in the Central Valley, Wyoming just off the Finger Lakes. But others are surprising: Maricopa (Phoenix), Dane (Madison), Palm Beach.

    Then again, as Sam Kinison put it much more crudely, living near the food supply is a good idea. Queens Farms dairy products were once made in Queens County. Before Fred Trump.

    Biggest farming county in every state

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    @Reg Cæsar

    The 1954 musical "Oklahoma: was filmed in Arizona.

    From kjzz.org:


    “I do think people are surprised to learn "Oklahoma!" wasn’t filmed in Oklahoma,” said Marshall Trimble, Arizona's official state historian.

    Trimble said location scouts logged 250,000 miles traveling across Oklahoma in the early 1950s to find a suitable location that could pay proper homage to the vastness of pre-statehood Oklahoma circa 1906.

    "There's a bright golden haze on the meadow
    The corn is as high as an elephant's eye
    And it looks like it's climbing clear up to the sky"
    — Lyrics from "Oh What a Beautiful Morning"
    “Everywhere they looked an oil well would pop up, you look over here and airplanes are going over and making a lot of noise,” he said. “They were looking for somewhere with wide open spaces.”

    Complicating the search was the studio’s plan to use the new Todd-AO 70mm process, which would provide audiences a sweeping, wide-angle picture.

    “It was the '50s, they couldn’t edit the film like that to delete any power lines or buildings in the background,” Trimble said.

    Legend has it a scout was thumbing through an Arizona Highways magazine when he saw a photo essay about the San Rafael Valley, a small patch of land about 40 miles east of Nogales.
     
    I like the part where they imported thousands of corn plants, one per pot, on flatbed trucks.
    , @Alfa158
    @Reg Cæsar

    Cowschwitz is a feedlot that cattle are packed in to and fed corn and additives to fatten them up for the slaughter. You can usually smell it about half a mile before you pass it on Interstate 5 driving up the Central Valley.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Buffalo Joe

    , @El Dato
    @Reg Cæsar


    A commenter here said there’s a ranch in the California known locally as Cowschwitz.
     
    "Knock Knock"
    "Who's there?"
    "Addy and the Eye!"
    "Who??"
    "Addy Ell and the Eff Bee Eye!"
  72. Any thoughts on the abuse handed out to Tucker Carlson in front of his child from a guy who previously worked for a CIA front? Coincidence?

    https://en-volve.com/2021/07/26/man-who-cursed-at-tucker-carlson-in-montana-has-ties-to-the-cia/

    Also, Michael Anton of ‘Flight 93 Election’ fame.

    https://americanmind.org/salvo/thats-not-happening-and-its-good-that-it-is/

    Deplorable Americans are loudly and incessantly said to be the worst people in the history of the planet, pure unadulterated evil, with no legitimate concerns, interests or grievances.

    Well, OK. Then why live with us? Why treat as anathema even the most moderate, banal, attempt to allow some measure of federalism and local control?

    There can only be two answers: either our masters know (or intuit) deep down that we can live without them but they can’t live without us, or else they want to keep us around to administer what they view as deserved punishment.

    Being neither a psychiatrist nor a theologian, I could not say whether the roots of this behavior are psychotic or demonic, but in this layman’s judgement, it exhibits key characteristics of both.

    But understand this: they hate you and want you cancelled and ostracized, or at least utterly subservient and obedient. You owe them no consideration. Their every argument, every sentence, every word are proffered in bad faith. As Mary McCarthy said of Lilian Hellman, “Every word she writes is a lie—including ‘and’ and ‘the.’”

    The regime is powerful, which means we must calibrate our resistance carefully. But to think clearly, our minds must be free. Which requires understanding its rhetoric and seeing through it. I hope this short guide is useful in that effort.

  73. On the one hand, Olympic caliber athletes are supposed to be able to cope with stress – that’s how they got to where they are. On the other, if she felt her head wasn’t in the right place to go safely flipping over a vault or on a balance beam, then I really cannot say this was a bad call on her part.

    That said, I would suspect whatever is eating at her goes beyond jitters about the pressure of winning.

    • Agree: Triteleia Laxa
    • Replies: @Abe
    @Arclight


    That said, I would suspect whatever is eating at her goes beyond jitters about the pressure of winning.
     
    Her brother just recently shot and killed someone, I think.

    Replies: @James Speaks, @kaganovitch

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Arclight

    Arc, good comment. There is a human element and this is a young person under enormous pressure.

    Replies: @Joseph A., @Anonymous

  74. So, drugs? Off of drugs to pass the tests? Long-term damage due to performance enhancers? Vax side-effects? Centuries of red-lining?

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Known Fact

    So, drugs? Off of drugs to pass the tests? Long-term damage due to performance enhancers? Vax side-effects? Centuries of red-lining?

    Emmett Till, of course.

  75. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jonathan Mason


    Those English soccer players who missed their penalty kicks did the right thing in taking a private jet to the Cayman Islands for a mental health break.
     
    And a tax break? Will they stay for 182 days?

    Probably not-- they've lost their endorsement opportunities, haven't they?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @gent

    Rashford has family in St. Kitts, but I think it is closed because of Covid, but Caymans is nearby and open, plus these guys will get celebrity treatment there, but there are no tax breaks for 10-day vacations.

    A lot of professional soccer players have companies that handle their “image rights” in tax havens.

    Players like Lionel Messi have almost gone to prison over tax issues, because the Spanish government is pretty tough on tax evasion.

    Croatian star Luka Modric has also flirted with jail time over illegal payments, but usually these guys eventually pay out a few million dollars here and there to settle their tax debts.

    With all these tax problems to deal with it is no wonder that top flight athletes develop mental health problems!

  76. @Arclight
    On the one hand, Olympic caliber athletes are supposed to be able to cope with stress - that's how they got to where they are. On the other, if she felt her head wasn't in the right place to go safely flipping over a vault or on a balance beam, then I really cannot say this was a bad call on her part.

    That said, I would suspect whatever is eating at her goes beyond jitters about the pressure of winning.

    Replies: @Abe, @Buffalo Joe

    That said, I would suspect whatever is eating at her goes beyond jitters about the pressure of winning.

    Her brother just recently shot and killed someone, I think.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    @Abe


    Her brother just recently shot and killed someone, I think.
     
    With digital technology being what it is, why don't they edit that homocide out and create images of her winning?
    , @kaganovitch
    @Abe

    Nah, that was in 2018. Recently he was acquitted.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/us/simone-biles-brother-acquitted.html

    Replies: @Charon, @dearieme

  77. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    “Arby’s Makes Fries”
     
    That would look good over the arch at Arbschwitz.

    A commenter here said there's a ranch in the California known locally as Cowschwitz. Here's a list (mercifully not a clickstream) showing the top agricultural county in each state. Some are no surprise-- Fresno in the Central Valley, Wyoming just off the Finger Lakes. But others are surprising: Maricopa (Phoenix), Dane (Madison), Palm Beach.

    Then again, as Sam Kinison put it much more crudely, living near the food supply is a good idea. Queens Farms dairy products were once made in Queens County. Before Fred Trump.


    Biggest farming county in every state

    Replies: @James Speaks, @Alfa158, @El Dato

    The 1954 musical “Oklahoma: was filmed in Arizona.

    From kjzz.org:

    “I do think people are surprised to learn “Oklahoma!” wasn’t filmed in Oklahoma,” said Marshall Trimble, Arizona’s official state historian.

    Trimble said location scouts logged 250,000 miles traveling across Oklahoma in the early 1950s to find a suitable location that could pay proper homage to the vastness of pre-statehood Oklahoma circa 1906.

    “There’s a bright golden haze on the meadow
    The corn is as high as an elephant’s eye
    And it looks like it’s climbing clear up to the sky”
    — Lyrics from “Oh What a Beautiful Morning”
    “Everywhere they looked an oil well would pop up, you look over here and airplanes are going over and making a lot of noise,” he said. “They were looking for somewhere with wide open spaces.”

    Complicating the search was the studio’s plan to use the new Todd-AO 70mm process, which would provide audiences a sweeping, wide-angle picture.

    “It was the ’50s, they couldn’t edit the film like that to delete any power lines or buildings in the background,” Trimble said.

    Legend has it a scout was thumbing through an Arizona Highways magazine when he saw a photo essay about the San Rafael Valley, a small patch of land about 40 miles east of Nogales.

    I like the part where they imported thousands of corn plants, one per pot, on flatbed trucks.

  78. These two girls are veteran world class competitors, so they have proven they are mentally tough and can thrive under pressure. Even with that it is possible the super-hype around #BeBlackWomanSuperHero did them in. I foresee a NYT article blaming horrible white men for causing the conditions that caused the hype. I just knew it was my fault!

  79. @Abe
    @Arclight


    That said, I would suspect whatever is eating at her goes beyond jitters about the pressure of winning.
     
    Her brother just recently shot and killed someone, I think.

    Replies: @James Speaks, @kaganovitch

    Her brother just recently shot and killed someone, I think.

    With digital technology being what it is, why don’t they edit that homocide out and create images of her winning?

  80. Anon[335] • Disclaimer says:

    https://theathletic.com/news/2021-olympics-simone-biles-fighting-demons-will-return-for-all-around/qwEaqkub26At

    It’s contagious:

    Biles said she was inspired by tennis star Naomi Osaka, who also lost at the Olympics on Tuesday, to focus on her mental health. Before the Olympics, Osaka hadn’t played a match since her first-round win at the French Open. She pulled out of Roland Garros after that match to prioritize her mental health.

    “There’s more to life than just gymnastics,” Biles said. She added that she had “never felt like this before.”

    “Once I came out here, I was like, no the mental is not there,” she said. “I had to let the girls do it.”

    This is the equivalent of telling your professor you need a delay in an exam or paper deadline, or maybe cancellation and an automatic A, because of the stress and exhaustion of [insert latest blackety-black incident].

    • Replies: @al gore rhythms
    @Anon

    Also notice this phrase--"I had to let the girls do it"--and ask yourself what the media would say if a white gymnast in a black team pulled out saying they were 'letting the boys do it'.

  81. @Jonathan Mason
    @Jonathan Mason

    On the other hand it could be the steroids that have psychological side effects.

    Replies: @Barnard, @Zoos, @Mike Tre

    What I am reading is that they banned adderall which Biles takes for ADHD. She had been allowed to take it in the past and I believe she was on it when she competed in Rio. I don’t see how taking something to improve concentration is any less performance enhancing than a sprinter taking steroids to improve speed.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Barnard


    I don’t see how taking something to improve concentration is any less performance enhancing than a sprinter taking steroids to improve speed.
     
    Concentrate, and you might.
  82. Biles has ADHD and takes Adderall for it. The drug increases focus. Perhaps she takes other stuff as well. Usually Adderall is banned, but she previously got a special dispensation to take it because of her ADHD. I think this year they might be more strict, or maybe she needs a higher dose which is not allowed within the rules.

  83. Black girls probably have a pretty good idea they’re not actually magical.

    But judging by the Olympics commercials, there seems to be plenty of work for them looking imperiously into the camera. I was counting how many featured a magic blegs or mulattos. All of them, until one promoting medication for dire eczema broke the streak at eight.

    Is it possible even blacks are getting bored of themselves? The more we go on and on about these people, the more obvious it is that we weren’t missing much.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @Ghost of Bull Moose


    Is it possible even blacks are getting bored of themselves?
     
    You funny.
    , @anon
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Is it possible even blacks are getting bored of themselves?

    No.

    , @bigduke6
    @Ghost of Bull Moose


    Black girls probably have a pretty good idea they’re not actually magical.

    Is it possible even blacks are getting bored of themselves?
     
    I doubt this. Black narcissism has no bounds that I've seen.
    , @guest
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    You still see commercials where “the future belongs to [girls]” because sports. Complete with aggressive/earnest stares of sweaty femininity. But I think Mad Ave has laid off that kick. At least for white girls.

    Trannies outrank lesbians, and we wouldn’t want girls to have a sense of proprietorship over sports when as they hierarchy stands at present they’re doomed to lose it.

    , @Charon
    @Ghost of Bull Moose


    Is it possible even blacks are getting bored of themselves?
     
    On the basis of extensive experience, this strikes me as something which is never, ever going to happen.
  84. Was her spot on the team taken by a white or WOC? Whoever she is isn’t sorry Biles bailed. I hope they get a medal without her.

  85. I’m reminded about how the Brooklyn Dodgers had to look long and hard to find a black player to break the color line.

    Before Branch Rickey found Jackie Robinson, he scoured the Negro Leagues for a player who could survive the pressure and taunts and yet be presentable to middle class white baseball fans. He rejected both Satchel Paige and Josh Gibson, two major stars. Ostensibly, it was because Paige was too old and too cocky (it would’ve pissed off whites and created another hated Jack Johnson), and Gibson due to Gibson’s schizophrenia that he would display from time to time.

    But really, it was both about temperament. Paige was a man-among-boys type of player in the Negro leagues, a bully who embarrassed lesser players by calling all his fielders to the bench so he could strike out the palookas without any fielder behind him. Such players, however, are so emotional that when they’re going good, they’re great, but when they’re going bad, they flop horribly and flip out. Prima donnas with childish temperaments. Paige being booed and called names and being the “first black” would’ve caused his egoism to turn either violent or suicidal. He was much better suited to coming into the league later, after white fans were used to blacks and wouldn’t scream against them so much.

    With Gibson, the pressure would’ve triggered his schizo episodes, and he might have killed a fan or himself on the field.

    Robinson was way more mentally healthy than either. But it took Rickey a long time to find him. Most of the black stars were not mentally tough enough to handle it.

    Anyway, blacks can’t handle the pressure, exhibits 233554 and 233555.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @R.G. Camara

    So that explains Michael Jordan's poor record in NBA Finals.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    , @AceDeuce
    @R.G. Camara

    Robinson's "ordeal" breaking into "White" baseball has been greatly exaggerated. He, BTW, was a world-class a**/hole himself.

    Of course, now, in the retelling, he's black Jeebus in the Garden of Gethsemane.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

  86. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Black girls probably have a pretty good idea they're not actually magical.

    But judging by the Olympics commercials, there seems to be plenty of work for them looking imperiously into the camera. I was counting how many featured a magic blegs or mulattos. All of them, until one promoting medication for dire eczema broke the streak at eight.

    Is it possible even blacks are getting bored of themselves? The more we go on and on about these people, the more obvious it is that we weren't missing much.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @anon, @bigduke6, @guest, @Charon

    Is it possible even blacks are getting bored of themselves?

    You funny.

  87. Or maybe she really had some issues? In this case, it might have nothing to do with race, really.

    Anyway, my problem with current female gymnastics (and gymnasts) is how unfeminine they are. Watch female gymnasts from the 60s or 70s (well, perhaps not those doped ones from Eastern Germany) and it’s a different universe, not so much about strength and jumping 3 meters in the air but more about grace, more like a dance. Ice skating still remains feminine. They didn’t need to masculinize gymnastics so much. Is it because of selection? (Selecting for specific body types?) Or perhaps it’s effect of the drugs they use?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Dumbo

    Mary Lou Retton was kind of a human cannonball type.

    , @Thoughts
    @Dumbo

    Ice Skating is no longer feminine

    I always side with Russians because they are still feminine, American females are just linebackers

    I remember praying praying that the Russians would win ice skating a few years ago cuz they were just so much better...but it didn't happen...triple axel b.s. won the day

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  88. I don’t care much about black people one way or the other, but I can’t help but notice this woke stuff doesn’t seem to work out for them very well

  89. Charles Barkley famously and honestly and importantly said “I am not a role model.” Not enough parents and kids paid attention. Biles is coming somewhat close to saying the same thing, with her “more to life.” A black child should be told that his or her black school teacher is a far better role model.

    And by the way, a zillion years ago, swim practice was one hour. I got a lot out of playing a sport, but that seemed like enough. I had more important things to do. Studying, chores, a job, and making out.

  90. anon[168] • Disclaimer says:

    Excuses from WSJ:

    They were just two of the high-profile casualties of the strangest Games in modern history. A combination of the restrictive conditions, absent fans, sweltering heat, and a one-year delay that threw off finely-tuned training cycles has dimmed the star power, in Japan and the U.S., of an Olympics already struggling for global appeal.

    In other words. because things. Lets just admit that the conditions were the same for everyone, no?

    Meanwhile, I actually like the very black, “hispanic” golfer, Jhonattan Vegas but dislike black but very white Camron Champ.

    I’m rooting for Vegas.

  91. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Black girls probably have a pretty good idea they're not actually magical.

    But judging by the Olympics commercials, there seems to be plenty of work for them looking imperiously into the camera. I was counting how many featured a magic blegs or mulattos. All of them, until one promoting medication for dire eczema broke the streak at eight.

    Is it possible even blacks are getting bored of themselves? The more we go on and on about these people, the more obvious it is that we weren't missing much.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @anon, @bigduke6, @guest, @Charon

    Is it possible even blacks are getting bored of themselves?

    No.

  92. res says:
    @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/QuasLacrimas/status/1419811739567276032?s=20

    Replies: @res

    Thanks. Here is a direct link to Anton’s piece.
    https://americanmind.org/salvo/thats-not-happening-and-its-good-that-it-is/

    For a sample, I suspect all of us here recognize this one. Even if the name was new to me.

    The Celebration Parallax

    A parallax is the apparent difference in position of the same object seen from different vantage points. For instance, an analogue speedometer that reads sixty miles per hour to the driver, but fifty to the passenger—even though the needle itself is only in one place.

    The Celebration Parallax may be stated as: “the same fact pattern is either true and glorious or false and scurrilous depending on who states it.” In contemporary speech, on any “controversial” topic—or, to say better, regime priority—the decisive factor is the intent of the speaker. If she can be presumed to be celebrating the phenomenon under discussion, she may shout her approval from the rooftops. If not, he better shut up before someone comes along to shut him up.

    Note also that the key distinction here is celebration versus non-celebration, not support versus opposition.

    Here are the other six phenomena.
    The Law of Merited Impossibility
    The Law of Salutary Contradiction
    The Smails Exhortation
    The Lie-Back Imperative (note connection made there for this and the next to Steve’s “War on Noticing”)
    The Enmity Counteraccusation
    “You’re worthless, baby; and if you even think of trying to leave me, I’ll kill you”

    To be honest, none of those really resonate with me. Perhaps iSteve or someone else here can come up with catchier names for those phenomena? Or perhaps those will grow on me over time.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @res

    Well, they are not "laws", but "patterns" -- behavioural patterns that occur in a completely abusive relationship.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @res

    Everything Michael Anton writes is worth reading. Same for Angelo Codevilla (sp?). Thanks for the link.

    , @Neil Templeton
    @res

    How about "people you can't argue with" because premises are not agreed, your friends don't have a granite's grasp of logic, and they don't like you.

    , @Desiderius
    @res

    If Anton were catchy we wouldn't be in this mess. He's the taxonomist/pathologist. The marketing will have to fall to someone else.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    , @Kratoklastes
    @res

    That load of twaddle was an just compilation of half-smart names for shit the guy finds tiresome in others. It's the PoliSci eqquivalent of 'New Yorker'/'Frasier' smirk-humour.

    Also, fuck people who try to call things 'Laws' when they're just rules (y compris those who wrote the 'Laws' of cricket and rugby). That's just an attempt to pretend there's an overarching - and unimpeachable - source of these rules, such that kicking against the traces is the same as committing a malum in se.

    Anton's counter will be that it is the other side who view these things as 'laws' rather than articles of their particular faith; however they would deny that, because they don't believe that's what they're doing (they're wrong, but who gives a fuck?)

    Anton's a Straussian - and ergo, a hair-splitting 'whatabout'-ist whose primary objective is to win arguments irrespective of the merits or truth value. A bullshitter, in other words.

    The idea that the 'alt-Right' (or whatever) thinks that there's an existential crisis because the Left has the 'commanding heights', is patently stupid. The Left can give sinecures to its pet chimps like Kendi, Gladwell, and Coates and then try to lionise their every utterance... but the end of the day they convince nobody who matters.

    Being alarmed by a modest uptick in inchoate Leftist pablum as if it's a precursor to sending Euromutts to the camps, is like being alarmed at the prospect of a nutbar fundamentalist theocracy because Westboro Baptists got in the news. It's pearl-clutching hysteria that befits scared old women.

    It's just Idiocracy playing out in real-time: everyone's convinced that things are now so cartoonish that academic polemicists can 'move the ball' in their desired direction... in reality all they're doing is parrotting things that their paymasters tell them to: Anton's typical in his refusal to identify the paymasters.

  93. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Black girls probably have a pretty good idea they're not actually magical.

    But judging by the Olympics commercials, there seems to be plenty of work for them looking imperiously into the camera. I was counting how many featured a magic blegs or mulattos. All of them, until one promoting medication for dire eczema broke the streak at eight.

    Is it possible even blacks are getting bored of themselves? The more we go on and on about these people, the more obvious it is that we weren't missing much.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @anon, @bigduke6, @guest, @Charon

    Black girls probably have a pretty good idea they’re not actually magical.

    Is it possible even blacks are getting bored of themselves?

    I doubt this. Black narcissism has no bounds that I’ve seen.

  94. @Dieter Kief
    @Alfa158


    We can keep them out of prison by simply eliminating school discipline.
     
    A solution. Hurrah! - That took its time. - But then, if it works, it'll make people happy!

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @guest

    It won’t work, of course. Which leads to the next logical step;

    stop punishing adult blacks for crimes.

    We’re already working on that by not policing very hard where they live, and making cops afraid to police blacks. But that ultimately won’t work either.

    Short of turning black turf into Mad Max.

  95. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    “Arby’s Makes Fries”
     
    That would look good over the arch at Arbschwitz.

    A commenter here said there's a ranch in the California known locally as Cowschwitz. Here's a list (mercifully not a clickstream) showing the top agricultural county in each state. Some are no surprise-- Fresno in the Central Valley, Wyoming just off the Finger Lakes. But others are surprising: Maricopa (Phoenix), Dane (Madison), Palm Beach.

    Then again, as Sam Kinison put it much more crudely, living near the food supply is a good idea. Queens Farms dairy products were once made in Queens County. Before Fred Trump.


    Biggest farming county in every state

    Replies: @James Speaks, @Alfa158, @El Dato

    Cowschwitz is a feedlot that cattle are packed in to and fed corn and additives to fatten them up for the slaughter. You can usually smell it about half a mile before you pass it on Interstate 5 driving up the Central Valley.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Alfa158

    The feedlots in Greeley--which will no doubt top the Colorado list--can be a bit odiferous. (At least back in the 80s on my way from Iowa to Rocky Mtn Nat. Park.)

    The story is it was the ripe young women at a dance in the Congregationalist church basement, that got Sayyid Qutb all riled up and soured him on the West. But maybe it was just the cow shit?

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Alfa158

    Alfa, a friend of mine bought the big Mercedes sedan. He asked me to help him drive it to Scottsdale and then I could fly home first class. Driving through Texas we passed a feed lot. Had to be 250K steers. He opened the window to take a picture. Gag. And another day before we could get the smell out of our nostrils,clothes and the car.

    Replies: @additionalMike

  96. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Black girls probably have a pretty good idea they're not actually magical.

    But judging by the Olympics commercials, there seems to be plenty of work for them looking imperiously into the camera. I was counting how many featured a magic blegs or mulattos. All of them, until one promoting medication for dire eczema broke the streak at eight.

    Is it possible even blacks are getting bored of themselves? The more we go on and on about these people, the more obvious it is that we weren't missing much.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @anon, @bigduke6, @guest, @Charon

    You still see commercials where “the future belongs to [girls]” because sports. Complete with aggressive/earnest stares of sweaty femininity. But I think Mad Ave has laid off that kick. At least for white girls.

    Trannies outrank lesbians, and we wouldn’t want girls to have a sense of proprietorship over sports when as they hierarchy stands at present they’re doomed to lose it.

  97. Biles is twenty four — ancient for a female gymnast.

    I wonder if she realized she just didn’t have it any more, and decided to get out rather than risk humiliation?

    • Replies: @res
    @Colin Wright


    Biles is twenty four — ancient for a female gymnast.
     
    Mostly true. But there are exceptions.
    46-year-old gymnast Oksana Chusovitina gets standing ovation after competing in her eighth Olympic Games
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oksana-chusovitina-final-olympics-standing-ovation/

    Also see this.
    https://abc7chicago.com/olympics-2021-olympic-gymnastics-uniform-womens/10910027/

    But other nations have defied that emphasis on youth, including the Germans: Elisabeth Seitz is 27, Kim Bui is 32, Pauline Schafer is 24, and Voss is 21. Their average age of 26.
     
  98. @Altai
    I think part of it is the nihilism of this moment of black ethnocentric politics. There are no laws to be passed and there are no real problems with racism. So without that and without a plan for self-determination, it probably is getting depressing to people other than criminally-inclined males aged 18-24.

    If there was some objective this black ethnocentric politicisation was working towards, something positive, the establishment of African-American self-determination, a homeland. Otherwise maybe that unmet need just makes it depressing like for Native Americans who faced into oblivion and white Americans. Whipping people up into an ethnocentric frenzy and telling them the majority population is against them and creating antagonism is pretty depressing when you have to live with those people day to day.

    There certainly isn't a plan to elevate blacks socio-economically in play. Black politicisation is stuck in the 60s, LARPing the civil rights movement with no leadership to move it forward.

    As I've said before, what happened in 2020 looks like the beginning a nationalist movement for independence. But it is frustrated by nobody being able to articulate this and nobody much having any affection for any of the proposed black homelands. The lack of this need being met is probably quite depressing.

    Replies: @Currahee, @Pixo, @AnotherDad, @Almost Missouri, @Lurker, @Hi There

    If there was some objective this black ethnocentric politicisation was working towards, something positive, the establishment of African-American self-determination, a homeland. Otherwise maybe that unmet need just makes it depressing like for Native Americans who faced into oblivion and white Americans. Whipping people up into an ethnocentric frenzy and telling them the majority population is against them and creating antagonism is pretty depressing when you have to live with those people day to day.

    Good stuff.

    Altai you’re on a roll with excellent comments. You had one on Japan–that population cycles are no big deal if you keep your people intact–that i never got around to commenting on. Several more excellent ones, including a couple good one’s yesterday.

    Yeah, i respect actual “black nationalists”–especially if they are realists about black dysfunction and just think “we need to do it ourselves; no other way”. It would be a mess … but it would be their mess.

    But minoritarianism is not a mentally healthy ideology–“you’re oppressing us! give us more stuff! give us more stuff! you’re mean! give me a cookie!” What are you, three?

    Look how much more mentally healthy seem the Jews–real Zionists who live in Israel, or Orthodox committed to their community, or patriots like Stephen Miller throwing in with whitey–who take responsibility for themselves, compared to the minoritarian, ADL types still blabbing about the Golfocaust or Harvard quotas or (the non-existent but ever rising) “anti-Semitism”.

    There’s just no end the ways “responsibility” is better than “dependency” and “blame”. Including different peoples being in separate nations, responsible for and governing themselves.

    • Replies: @Charon
    @AnotherDad

    Separation is enticing but if it's truly our only way out then we are royally screwed.


    minoritarianism
     
    Just a friendly heads-up: some of us have a drinking game going on.
    , @Triteleia Laxa
    @AnotherDad

    They take a form of responsibility. Black "minoritarians", for example, are often think that black have been just too kind, soulful, forgiving and all round amazing for their own good, and that treacherous whites have taken advantage of that. Does that count as "taking responsibility" to you?

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    , @martin_2
    @AnotherDad

    I was thinking the same thing with Altai's comments.

    Especially I agree with him that the fundamental issue is that blacks cannot, unlike virtually any other race of people, create anything like a modern functional society without (or even dare I say with) massive non-white help. So although blacks advocate black ethnic nationalism, they don't actually want that which is the logical consequence of that nationalism, which is their own country for them to run as they please. So white people get the worst of both worlds. They have to put up with people who are entirely dependent on them but who constantly whine and demand. Like having a baby but without the joy.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @AnotherDad

    https://twitter.com/bronzeagemantis/status/1390307931015557120

    , @anon
    @AnotherDad


    real Zionists who live in Israel, or Orthodox committed to their community ….–who take responsibility for themselves, compared to the minoritarian, ADL types still blabbing about the Golfocaust or Harvard quotas or (the non-existent but ever rising) “anti-Semitism”.
     
    Jewish Isrealis are just as into victimhood mythology and hostility toward Gentiles as Ashkenazi Jews in the West are.
  99. Simone is one of the best ever, no denying that. Emotional stress can be debilitating. True fact. Emotions play a huge role in our health. Yesterday our host was pleading for help with his impending depression. Give the girl a break. She is given no room to be less than perfect.

    • Agree: El Dato, JLK, mc23, Triteleia Laxa
    • Disagree: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Buffalo Joe

    I don't even understand how these people don't end up in wheelchairs. Just doing a bit of martial arts makes you appreciate the fragility of a human body.

    Also, classy:

    GOLDEN GIRLS: Russian team clinch Olympic gymnastics title to end US dominance in dramatic final after Biles withdraws


    Heading into Tuesday's final, the US team – so dominant for the past decade – had appeared surprisingly fallible, qualifying in second spot behind their Russian rivals.

    That had included an uncharacteristically sloppy performance by Biles, whose early departure on Tuesday piled further pressure on her teammates Sunisa Lee, Grace McCallum and Jordan Chiles.

    Despite a brave effort in the absence of their taliswoman, they were unable to top a Russian team led by the superb Melnikova.

    On sealing victory, the Russian team erupted into cheers and tears of joy, and were gracefully congratulated by the American team and coaches, including Biles.
     

    , @Henry's Cat
    @Buffalo Joe

    Who's attacking her personally? The focus is on the media's nauseating/laughable (in equal measure) campaign of negroid-boosterism.

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Buffalo Joe


    Yesterday our host was pleading for help with his impending depression. Give the girl a break.
     
    Eeeesh. Glad I stayed the FUCK outta that thread.

    Only kidding, Steve. Get well soon! I hear humerus the best medicine…

    https://www.fyzical.com/buffalo/media/img/343055/intro.jpg

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @Buffalo Joe

    https://twitter.com/faecesocietatis/status/1420124289244798981?s=21

    , @bigdicknick
    @Buffalo Joe

    when you call yourself the GOAT different standards apply

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    , @Kratoklastes
    @Buffalo Joe

    The flipside of "You come at the King, you best not miss" is "If you self-refer as the GOAT, you best not bitch out".

    Anyone who self-refers as the GOAT is a FIGJAM ("Fuck I'm Good: Just Ask Me").

    FIGJAM's always derogatory.

    That goat motif on her leotard will always be the evidence that she wilted when she couldn't have her meds (PEDs). Biles is a full-weight FIGJAM now.

  100. Any chance Black Fragility might get a white guy into the 100m or 200m finals?

  101. @Arclight
    On the one hand, Olympic caliber athletes are supposed to be able to cope with stress - that's how they got to where they are. On the other, if she felt her head wasn't in the right place to go safely flipping over a vault or on a balance beam, then I really cannot say this was a bad call on her part.

    That said, I would suspect whatever is eating at her goes beyond jitters about the pressure of winning.

    Replies: @Abe, @Buffalo Joe

    Arc, good comment. There is a human element and this is a young person under enormous pressure.

    • Agree: magila
    • Thanks: Arclight
    • Replies: @Joseph A.
    @Buffalo Joe

    Absolutely. Apart from all the racial nonsense, SB has been extraordinarily, continuously hyped for the past four years. But she _is_ amazing and a joy to watch, and it saddens me to see her go out like this.

    @Arclight -- yes, there is expected Olympic pressure, but the media increase that forty-fold by making certain athletes into global superstars. Michael Phelps, for all his fame and awards, isn't recognized enough for being able to overcome that insanity. And even he had missteps . . . but he overcame them, and he deserves worldwide admiration. Should MP, though, be the bar that we expect of all? He's one in 7 billion.

    For these folks turned into demigods -- almost all of whom are still pretty young and immature -- medaling isn't enough. Not even gold is enough. They judge themselves by perfection, and they start to believe that the rest of the world does, too. That's terribly unfair.

    OK, bringing Blackness back into it . . . every decent black American feels like an involuntary ambassador to America and the world, representing other American blacks. These people did not ask for that role, but it just happens, reinforced from many quarters. That is an additional stress that whites, until recently and now only in certain places, did not have to bear. Add all the other pressures -- such as being a role-model . . . no, the role-model for young black athletic girls who still think of themselves as girls. And for all girls aspiring to be great gymnasts . . . and all the silliness about the gold being theirs to lose. It's a shame. Psychologically disadvantageous. The media did this because it's good business to personalize the games. It works, which is why I am upset with this story. It's a shame, though. Bring back the Amateur Magic; leave BGM to the Naw'lins voodoos.

    Replies: @Spect3r, @Buffalo Joe

    , @Anonymous
    @Buffalo Joe


    Arc, good comment. There is a human element and this is a young person under enormous pressure.
     
    Two questions.

    1) What top athlete in a major Olympic sport is not under pressure?

    2) What other top athletes have quit during competition?
  102. @Buffalo Joe
    Simone is one of the best ever, no denying that. Emotional stress can be debilitating. True fact. Emotions play a huge role in our health. Yesterday our host was pleading for help with his impending depression. Give the girl a break. She is given no room to be less than perfect.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Henry's Cat, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Dave Pinsen, @bigdicknick, @Kratoklastes

    I don’t even understand how these people don’t end up in wheelchairs. Just doing a bit of martial arts makes you appreciate the fragility of a human body.

    Also, classy:

    GOLDEN GIRLS: Russian team clinch Olympic gymnastics title to end US dominance in dramatic final after Biles withdraws

    Heading into Tuesday’s final, the US team – so dominant for the past decade – had appeared surprisingly fallible, qualifying in second spot behind their Russian rivals.

    That had included an uncharacteristically sloppy performance by Biles, whose early departure on Tuesday piled further pressure on her teammates Sunisa Lee, Grace McCallum and Jordan Chiles.

    Despite a brave effort in the absence of their taliswoman, they were unable to top a Russian team led by the superb Melnikova.

    On sealing victory, the Russian team erupted into cheers and tears of joy, and were gracefully congratulated by the American team and coaches, including Biles.

  103. @Alfa158
    @Reg Cæsar

    Cowschwitz is a feedlot that cattle are packed in to and fed corn and additives to fatten them up for the slaughter. You can usually smell it about half a mile before you pass it on Interstate 5 driving up the Central Valley.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Buffalo Joe

    The feedlots in Greeley–which will no doubt top the Colorado list–can be a bit odiferous. (At least back in the 80s on my way from Iowa to Rocky Mtn Nat. Park.)

    The story is it was the ripe young women at a dance in the Congregationalist church basement, that got Sayyid Qutb all riled up and soured him on the West. But maybe it was just the cow shit?

    • LOL: flyingtiger
  104. White folks gonna get blamed for this!!

  105. @Alfa158
    @Reg Cæsar

    Cowschwitz is a feedlot that cattle are packed in to and fed corn and additives to fatten them up for the slaughter. You can usually smell it about half a mile before you pass it on Interstate 5 driving up the Central Valley.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Buffalo Joe

    Alfa, a friend of mine bought the big Mercedes sedan. He asked me to help him drive it to Scottsdale and then I could fly home first class. Driving through Texas we passed a feed lot. Had to be 250K steers. He opened the window to take a picture. Gag. And another day before we could get the smell out of our nostrils,clothes and the car.

    • Replies: @additionalMike
    @Buffalo Joe

    Mr. Joe, did you ever drive by a pig farm on a hot day, like the one on the Thruway west of Syracuse? It'll take your breath away.

  106. @Alfa158
    Perhaps she was emotionally distressed by the breaking news that the racist school to prison pipeline is real, and she couldn’t concentrate on something as trivial as a tumbling competition.
    https://www.bing.com/search?q=School-to-prison+pipeline+new+study&efirst=4&filters=tnTID%3a%2281B0CFCA-E91D-44bc-A618-EEB27C5FC1B4%22+tnVersion%3a%224156335%22+Segment%3a%22popularnow.carousel%22+tnCol%3a%224%22+tnOrder%3a%22d6da5929-ad9b-4880-925f-9d60485e7a8d%22&form=HPNN01
    The geniuses at several leading universities found that black and brown people are more likely to be disciplined in school and also more likely to go to prison, therefore disciplining kids in school for their misbehavior causes them to be imprisoned when they grow up.
    We can keep them out of prison by simply eliminating school discipline.

    Replies: @guest, @Dieter Kief, @kaganovitch, @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    Or simply keep them out of school!

  107. This Olympics is proving surprisingly entertaining! Here’s hoping for one last collapse of the U.S. women’s soccer team to make my joy complete.

    Girl’s gymnastics is a weird form of child abuse somehow made acceptable due to media idolatry. Nobody under 18 should be allowed to participate in the Olympics. It’s demonic.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @peterike

    peteriken wrote:


    Girl’s gymnastics is a weird form of child abuse somehow made acceptable due to media idolatry. Nobody under 18 should be allowed to participate in the Olympics. It’s demonic.
     
    I think we need to take that seriously.

    As an adolescent, I was very academically focused: taught myself special relativity, read Keynes' General Theory, cover-to-cover (and found some errors), etc.

    But I still had time to ride my bike, shoot baskets, be a Boy Scout, date a couple girls, watch (the original) Star Trek, etc.

    Not just the young Olympians, but a lot of the young kids nowadays who are aiming for elite colleges... I think we are depriving them of their childhood.

    Replies: @El Dato

  108. Anonymous[959] • Disclaimer says:

    If you’ve ever had to deal with black female coworkers, employees, customer service personnel, government workers, etc., you’ll recognize that shirking work, duties, responsibilities just because they feel like it is the norm. Most people can’t fathom shirking responsibility like this when there are important deadlines or if there are lots of people depending on them or if they’re on a major stage like the Olympics. But this sort of brazen shamelessness and self-absorption is not uncommon among black women. So you have liberals in the media conjure up these sophisticated sounding rationales about “mental health” to explain this behavior.

  109. @Abe
    @Arclight


    That said, I would suspect whatever is eating at her goes beyond jitters about the pressure of winning.
     
    Her brother just recently shot and killed someone, I think.

    Replies: @James Speaks, @kaganovitch

    Nah, that was in 2018. Recently he was acquitted.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/us/simone-biles-brother-acquitted.html

    • Thanks: Abe
    • LOL: El Dato
    • Replies: @Charon
    @kaganovitch

    Maybe it's one of her other brothers? Or half-brothers. Who knows? Hard to keep track. Hard for her I mean.

    , @dearieme
    @kaganovitch

    Three people were killed: DeVaughn Gibson, 23; DelVaunte Johnson, 19; and Toshaun Banks, 21

    By Sailer's Law of Mass Shootings there's therefore a fair chance that the shooting wasn't done by a black man. No wonder the case was dismissed.

  110. Biles and Osaka drop out at the biggest moment in their careers. The three black lions of the UK whiff their grand moment at the Euro whatever Cup. Kaepernick takes a knee.

    This comes as no surprise to anyone who has ever supervised black employees. It is typical for them to quit the moment the job requires any effort beyond verbal self-glorification and routine tasks.

    And it’s time to stop pretending that blacks are good at sports. All competition depends on will and courage, which blacks do not have.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Intelligent Dasein reasoning from first principles:

    "And it’s time to stop pretending that blacks are good at sports. All competition depends on will and courage, which blacks do not have."

    Who ya gonna believe? Intelligent Dasein or your lying eyes?

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre

  111. Mental issue? Skeptical, you dont get to that level without being supremely mentally tough.

    In any case, she has the same right to privacy about any medical issue the rest of us have.

  112. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    “Arby’s Makes Fries”
     
    That would look good over the arch at Arbschwitz.

    A commenter here said there's a ranch in the California known locally as Cowschwitz. Here's a list (mercifully not a clickstream) showing the top agricultural county in each state. Some are no surprise-- Fresno in the Central Valley, Wyoming just off the Finger Lakes. But others are surprising: Maricopa (Phoenix), Dane (Madison), Palm Beach.

    Then again, as Sam Kinison put it much more crudely, living near the food supply is a good idea. Queens Farms dairy products were once made in Queens County. Before Fred Trump.


    Biggest farming county in every state

    Replies: @James Speaks, @Alfa158, @El Dato

    A commenter here said there’s a ranch in the California known locally as Cowschwitz.

    “Knock Knock”
    “Who’s there?”
    “Addy and the Eye!”
    “Who??”
    “Addy Ell and the Eff Bee Eye!”

  113. @Buffalo Joe
    @Arclight

    Arc, good comment. There is a human element and this is a young person under enormous pressure.

    Replies: @Joseph A., @Anonymous

    Absolutely. Apart from all the racial nonsense, SB has been extraordinarily, continuously hyped for the past four years. But she _is_ amazing and a joy to watch, and it saddens me to see her go out like this.

    — yes, there is expected Olympic pressure, but the media increase that forty-fold by making certain athletes into global superstars. Michael Phelps, for all his fame and awards, isn’t recognized enough for being able to overcome that insanity. And even he had missteps . . . but he overcame them, and he deserves worldwide admiration. Should MP, though, be the bar that we expect of all? He’s one in 7 billion.

    For these folks turned into demigods — almost all of whom are still pretty young and immature — medaling isn’t enough. Not even gold is enough. They judge themselves by perfection, and they start to believe that the rest of the world does, too. That’s terribly unfair.

    OK, bringing Blackness back into it . . . every decent black American feels like an involuntary ambassador to America and the world, representing other American blacks. These people did not ask for that role, but it just happens, reinforced from many quarters. That is an additional stress that whites, until recently and now only in certain places, did not have to bear. Add all the other pressures — such as being a role-model . . . no, the role-model for young black athletic girls who still think of themselves as girls. And for all girls aspiring to be great gymnasts . . . and all the silliness about the gold being theirs to lose. It’s a shame. Psychologically disadvantageous. The media did this because it’s good business to personalize the games. It works, which is why I am upset with this story. It’s a shame, though. Bring back the Amateur Magic; leave BGM to the Naw’lins voodoos.

    • Disagree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Spect3r
    @Joseph A.

    "OK, bringing Blackness back into it . . . every decent black American feels like an involuntary ambassador to America and the world, representing other American blacks. These people did not ask for that role, but it just happens, reinforced from many quarters. That is an additional stress that whites, until recently and now only in certain places, did not have to bear. "

    Are you being serious?!? You surely cant be serious!

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Joseph A.

    Joseph, a Gold Border worthy comment although I have no authority to issue one. I wish people would learn that it is nice to be nice.


  114. Black olympics NON-fragility. Bob Beamon.

  115. @Buffalo Joe
    Simone is one of the best ever, no denying that. Emotional stress can be debilitating. True fact. Emotions play a huge role in our health. Yesterday our host was pleading for help with his impending depression. Give the girl a break. She is given no room to be less than perfect.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Henry's Cat, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Dave Pinsen, @bigdicknick, @Kratoklastes

    Who’s attacking her personally? The focus is on the media’s nauseating/laughable (in equal measure) campaign of negroid-boosterism.

  116. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buffalo Joe
    @Arclight

    Arc, good comment. There is a human element and this is a young person under enormous pressure.

    Replies: @Joseph A., @Anonymous

    Arc, good comment. There is a human element and this is a young person under enormous pressure.

    Two questions.

    1) What top athlete in a major Olympic sport is not under pressure?

    2) What other top athletes have quit during competition?

  117. Her commercials are still being shown. She is able to dunk an Oreo with no problems.

  118. @kaganovitch
    @Abe

    Nah, that was in 2018. Recently he was acquitted.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/us/simone-biles-brother-acquitted.html

    Replies: @Charon, @dearieme

    Maybe it’s one of her other brothers? Or half-brothers. Who knows? Hard to keep track. Hard for her I mean.

  119. @kaganovitch
    @Abe

    Nah, that was in 2018. Recently he was acquitted.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/us/simone-biles-brother-acquitted.html

    Replies: @Charon, @dearieme

    Three people were killed: DeVaughn Gibson, 23; DelVaunte Johnson, 19; and Toshaun Banks, 21

    By Sailer’s Law of Mass Shootings there’s therefore a fair chance that the shooting wasn’t done by a black man. No wonder the case was dismissed.

    • LOL: Spect3r
  120. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Black girls probably have a pretty good idea they're not actually magical.

    But judging by the Olympics commercials, there seems to be plenty of work for them looking imperiously into the camera. I was counting how many featured a magic blegs or mulattos. All of them, until one promoting medication for dire eczema broke the streak at eight.

    Is it possible even blacks are getting bored of themselves? The more we go on and on about these people, the more obvious it is that we weren't missing much.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @anon, @bigduke6, @guest, @Charon

    Is it possible even blacks are getting bored of themselves?

    On the basis of extensive experience, this strikes me as something which is never, ever going to happen.

  121. @AnotherDad
    @Altai


    If there was some objective this black ethnocentric politicisation was working towards, something positive, the establishment of African-American self-determination, a homeland. Otherwise maybe that unmet need just makes it depressing like for Native Americans who faced into oblivion and white Americans. Whipping people up into an ethnocentric frenzy and telling them the majority population is against them and creating antagonism is pretty depressing when you have to live with those people day to day.
     
    Good stuff.

    Altai you're on a roll with excellent comments. You had one on Japan--that population cycles are no big deal if you keep your people intact--that i never got around to commenting on. Several more excellent ones, including a couple good one's yesterday.

    Yeah, i respect actual "black nationalists"--especially if they are realists about black dysfunction and just think "we need to do it ourselves; no other way". It would be a mess ... but it would be their mess.

    But minoritarianism is not a mentally healthy ideology--"you're oppressing us! give us more stuff! give us more stuff! you're mean! give me a cookie!" What are you, three?

    Look how much more mentally healthy seem the Jews--real Zionists who live in Israel, or Orthodox committed to their community, or patriots like Stephen Miller throwing in with whitey--who take responsibility for themselves, compared to the minoritarian, ADL types still blabbing about the Golfocaust or Harvard quotas or (the non-existent but ever rising) "anti-Semitism".

    There's just no end the ways "responsibility" is better than "dependency" and "blame". Including different peoples being in separate nations, responsible for and governing themselves.

    Replies: @Charon, @Triteleia Laxa, @martin_2, @Almost Missouri, @anon

    Separation is enticing but if it’s truly our only way out then we are royally screwed.

    minoritarianism

    Just a friendly heads-up: some of us have a drinking game going on.

  122. @Dave Pinsen
    I think Osaka went out in the second round - I lost a bet against her in a match on Sunday.

    Good thread on Biles and the broader context here:

    https://twitter.com/tummymuncher/status/1420021796712206341?s=21

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    I don’t agree that Simone Biles is a “coward and a loser.” Gymnastics is dangerous. Some E. European gymnast crippled herself with a bad move.

    If her mind wasn’t all there, she was right to pull out.

    Also, it’s Kerri Strug, not Strung. Or should I say (((Kerri Strug)))?

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Paperback Writer

    But he has some other tweets that are good. Apparently Simone Biles takes ADHD meds. WTF? I'm positive that ADHD is the last thing she suffers from.

    https://twitter.com/tummymuncher/status/1420148551536062467?s=20

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  123. Meanwhile at the Capitol 1/6 commission, 2000+ security cameras, and 14,000 hours of footage somehow missed this officer getting racially taunted for voting for Biden. They can’t even lie to us efficiently anymore…

    https://www.npr.org/2021/07/27/1021197474/capitol-police-officer-testifies-to-the-racism-he-faced-during-the-jan-6-riot

  124. @Desiderius
    The media have names. We should think about how these particular human beings found themselves in such a position and strategies to help them find a better fit for their skills.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @AndrewR

    Here a member of the ruling class suggests “safe havens” for vaxxed people

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/564960-do-we-need-safe-havens-for-vaccinated-americans%3famp

    Here the NYT DOJ journalist calls all Republicans enemies of the state

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ktbenner/status/1420037852746878981

  125. @Paperback Writer
    @Dave Pinsen

    I don't agree that Simone Biles is a "coward and a loser." Gymnastics is dangerous. Some E. European gymnast crippled herself with a bad move.

    If her mind wasn't all there, she was right to pull out.

    Also, it's Kerri Strug, not Strung. Or should I say (((Kerri Strug)))?

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    But he has some other tweets that are good. Apparently Simone Biles takes ADHD meds. WTF? I’m positive that ADHD is the last thing she suffers from.

    https://twitter.com/tummymuncher/status/1420148551536062467?s=20

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Paperback Writer

    Maybe she's going through w/drawal:

    https://twitter.com/tummymuncher/status/1420123041485443078?s=20

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

  126. Rafer Johnson never collapsed like this.

  127. @Paperback Writer
    @Paperback Writer

    But he has some other tweets that are good. Apparently Simone Biles takes ADHD meds. WTF? I'm positive that ADHD is the last thing she suffers from.

    https://twitter.com/tummymuncher/status/1420148551536062467?s=20

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Paperback Writer


    Maybe she’s going through w/drawal:
     
    Just more proof they're all on drugs.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  128. You’re missing the story here. The reason is that this was the first Olympics to ban Ritalin. She has ADHD. I can totally see that being devastating for her performance.

    Of course, the usual suspects on social media are now claiming the new rule is, wait for it, racist. Because White people apparently don’t have withdrawal symptoms from Ritalin.

    • Replies: @res
    @Jesse


    You’re missing the story here. The reason is that this was the first Olympics to ban Ritalin. She has ADHD. I can totally see that being devastating for her performance.
     
    Seems likely, but do you have any good sources for that? I am having trouble finding anything useful with my searches. Which is often a clue.

    As an example, this article showed up in a search, but seems to no longer be up. Here is an archive page.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20210422072304/https://japantoday.com/category/tokyo-2020-olympics/law-may-allow-olympic-athletes-to-bring-medical-stimulants-into-japan

    The article talks about possibly allowing Olympic athletes to bring stimulants into Japan. So what happened?

    Replies: @gandydancer

  129. @Buffalo Joe
    Simone is one of the best ever, no denying that. Emotional stress can be debilitating. True fact. Emotions play a huge role in our health. Yesterday our host was pleading for help with his impending depression. Give the girl a break. She is given no room to be less than perfect.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Henry's Cat, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Dave Pinsen, @bigdicknick, @Kratoklastes

    Yesterday our host was pleading for help with his impending depression. Give the girl a break.

    Eeeesh. Glad I stayed the FUCK outta that thread.

    Only kidding, Steve. Get well soon! I hear humerus the best medicine…

  130. @res
    @Desiderius

    Thanks. Here is a direct link to Anton's piece.
    https://americanmind.org/salvo/thats-not-happening-and-its-good-that-it-is/

    For a sample, I suspect all of us here recognize this one. Even if the name was new to me.


    The Celebration Parallax

    A parallax is the apparent difference in position of the same object seen from different vantage points. For instance, an analogue speedometer that reads sixty miles per hour to the driver, but fifty to the passenger—even though the needle itself is only in one place.

    The Celebration Parallax may be stated as: “the same fact pattern is either true and glorious or false and scurrilous depending on who states it.” In contemporary speech, on any “controversial” topic—or, to say better, regime priority—the decisive factor is the intent of the speaker. If she can be presumed to be celebrating the phenomenon under discussion, she may shout her approval from the rooftops. If not, he better shut up before someone comes along to shut him up.

    Note also that the key distinction here is celebration versus non-celebration, not support versus opposition.
     
    Here are the other six phenomena.
    The Law of Merited Impossibility
    The Law of Salutary Contradiction
    The Smails Exhortation
    The Lie-Back Imperative (note connection made there for this and the next to Steve's "War on Noticing")
    The Enmity Counteraccusation
    “You’re worthless, baby; and if you even think of trying to leave me, I’ll kill you”

    To be honest, none of those really resonate with me. Perhaps iSteve or someone else here can come up with catchier names for those phenomena? Or perhaps those will grow on me over time.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Jim Don Bob, @Neil Templeton, @Desiderius, @Kratoklastes

    Well, they are not “laws”, but “patterns” — behavioural patterns that occur in a completely abusive relationship.

  131. Anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:

    The media wants these poor girls to embody #BlackSupremacy and #FemaleSupremacy. That’s a lot to ask of anybody.

    Or, it COULD be that, not always, but all too often…

    “Black people let you down.”
    –Gods of the Copybook Headings

  132. @Buffalo Joe
    Simone is one of the best ever, no denying that. Emotional stress can be debilitating. True fact. Emotions play a huge role in our health. Yesterday our host was pleading for help with his impending depression. Give the girl a break. She is given no room to be less than perfect.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Henry's Cat, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Dave Pinsen, @bigdicknick, @Kratoklastes

    • Agree: ArthurinCali
  133. We have arrived.

    I don’t know where, but we have arrived.

    https://twitter.com/LHatesYouALot/status/1419408891880873988

  134. @Jonathan Mason
    @Jonathan Mason

    On the other hand it could be the steroids that have psychological side effects.

    Replies: @Barnard, @Zoos, @Mike Tre

    On the other hand it could be the steroids that have psychological side effects.

    Possibly, but we know for a fact she has ADHD to beat the band, and the Olympic committee gave her a special waver allowing her to partake in whatever Ritalin prescription her doctors deem fit.

    She’s been on it for years.

    Her parents background are sketch. They dumped her off into the foster home network, her grandparents eventually found out, adopted her, and became her new parents. They appear to have done a better job than they did with their kid who had her. Again, details are sketch.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Zoos


    Possibly, but we know for a fact she has ADHD to beat the band, and the Olympic committee gave her a special waver allowing her to partake in whatever Ritalin prescription her doctors deem fit.

    She’s been on it for years.
     
    What percentage of blacks have ADHD? Is it higher than the rate in the White, Oriental, and subcon populations?
  135. I don’t follow tennis, so this was news to me:

    Born in Japan to a Haitian father and a Japanese mother, Osaka has lived and trained in the United States since age three… Although Osaka was raised in the United States, her parents decided that their daughters would represent Japan. They said, “We made the decision that Naomi would represent Japan at an early age. She was born in Osaka and was brought up in a household of Japanese and Haitian culture. Quite simply, Naomi and her sister Mari have always felt Japanese so that was our only rationale. It was never a financially motivated decision nor were we ever swayed either way by any national federation.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Osaka

    I assume that it’s less competitive to become the top “Japanese” player than the top “American” one, but the latter is more remunerative?

    • Replies: @jcd1974
    @gandydancer

    She's a great player. Currently ranked number two in the world and has already won four majors.

    , @Gaspar DeLaFunk
    @gandydancer

    Thank you for saying 'remunerative." Do you know how many otherwise intelligent people will spell it renumerative?
    I guess it just sounds right,saying it wrong.
    You're very special.

  136. Found this discussion of the 2021 Olympics from Russian TV. It is definitely not woke.

    “In a hateful rampage that is shocking even by the Kremlin’s standards, Russian state TV is railing against Black and LGBTQ+ athletes competing in the Tokyo Olympics, blasting the Games as a cesspool of degradation, debauchery, and “impurity.”

    The most recent target of these attacks is star gymnast Simone Biles, who withdrew from the women’s gymnastics team final on Tuesday citing mental health concerns.

    “According to her passport, she is actually a woman. What this woman has been taking in order to look like this, God only knows,” Olga Skabeeva, host of the Kremlin-sponsored TV program 60 Minutes, said of Biles, who was the first to congratulate Russian gymnasts on their Olympic gold medals.

    Skabeeva’s ugly tirade continued: “She supposedly has heart problems and therefore is gobbling up Meldonium and all kinds of other stuff… Now look at our gymnasts, they’re one-third her girth and actually look like girls! They also look like people, but Simone looks like devil knows what…”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/olympics/olympic-purity-pundits-slam-biles-in-racist-transphobic-media-tirade/ar-AAMD88S?ocid=msedgntp

    • Thanks: The Wild Geese Howard
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @UNIT472

    Based!


    “Historically, in the United States and Europe, sports were the pastime of white males, because why would a negro be jumping around in the ring, instead of picking cotton?,” Alexei Naumov, of the Russian International Affairs Council, said on 60 Minutes last week. His rant included a point where he pondered out loud about whether Black people should be segregated into a “Negro League” competitions, claiming “they run faster than whites.”
     
    That actually sounds like an idea...

    Discussing the inclusion of trans competitors in the evening broadcast of 60 Minutes the same day, military expert Igor Korotchenko fumed: “It’s a nasty sight. If those people want to compete, take them out somewhere out of bounds of the Olympic games, because it’s a disgrace for the Olympics. In ancient Greece, people of non-traditional sexual orientation weren’t allowed to participate. We need to protect the purity of the Olympic games.”
     
    These are the last Olympics that were meant to be taken seriously.

    Former U.S. president Donald Trump’s public objections against transgender athletes, which are aligned with the Kremlin, were picked up by TASS and painstakingly transcribed by RT on Saturday. Video clips of Trump’s comments were also aired by state media TV channels.
     
    LOL.
  137. @AnotherDad
    @Altai


    If there was some objective this black ethnocentric politicisation was working towards, something positive, the establishment of African-American self-determination, a homeland. Otherwise maybe that unmet need just makes it depressing like for Native Americans who faced into oblivion and white Americans. Whipping people up into an ethnocentric frenzy and telling them the majority population is against them and creating antagonism is pretty depressing when you have to live with those people day to day.
     
    Good stuff.

    Altai you're on a roll with excellent comments. You had one on Japan--that population cycles are no big deal if you keep your people intact--that i never got around to commenting on. Several more excellent ones, including a couple good one's yesterday.

    Yeah, i respect actual "black nationalists"--especially if they are realists about black dysfunction and just think "we need to do it ourselves; no other way". It would be a mess ... but it would be their mess.

    But minoritarianism is not a mentally healthy ideology--"you're oppressing us! give us more stuff! give us more stuff! you're mean! give me a cookie!" What are you, three?

    Look how much more mentally healthy seem the Jews--real Zionists who live in Israel, or Orthodox committed to their community, or patriots like Stephen Miller throwing in with whitey--who take responsibility for themselves, compared to the minoritarian, ADL types still blabbing about the Golfocaust or Harvard quotas or (the non-existent but ever rising) "anti-Semitism".

    There's just no end the ways "responsibility" is better than "dependency" and "blame". Including different peoples being in separate nations, responsible for and governing themselves.

    Replies: @Charon, @Triteleia Laxa, @martin_2, @Almost Missouri, @anon

    They take a form of responsibility. Black “minoritarians”, for example, are often think that black have been just too kind, soulful, forgiving and all round amazing for their own good, and that treacherous whites have taken advantage of that. Does that count as “taking responsibility” to you?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Triteleia Laxa


    They take a form of responsibility. Black “minoritarians”, for example, are often think that black have been just too kind, soulful, forgiving and all round amazing for their own good, and that treacherous whites have taken advantage of that. Does that count as “taking responsibility” to you?
     
    Not alone.

    It is possibly a legit analysis. But it is only credible if it's followed up by "No thanks, we'll go our own way."

    "We'll go out own way", the willingness to separate, is the sine qua non of legitimacy of anyone's oppression narrative.

    If you're not ready to pack up and leave the other guy alone ... you are not oppressed. (In fact, you are quite likely the oppressor!)

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @The Germ Theory of Disease

  138. @Buffalo Joe
    Simone is one of the best ever, no denying that. Emotional stress can be debilitating. True fact. Emotions play a huge role in our health. Yesterday our host was pleading for help with his impending depression. Give the girl a break. She is given no room to be less than perfect.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Henry's Cat, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Dave Pinsen, @bigdicknick, @Kratoklastes

    when you call yourself the GOAT different standards apply

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @bigdicknick

    Big, I don't know if she called herself the Greatest Ever and this from you, a guy who brags about his member. Stay safe.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @Rouetheday, @Gaspar DeLaFunk

  139. @Altai
    I think part of it is the nihilism of this moment of black ethnocentric politics. There are no laws to be passed and there are no real problems with racism. So without that and without a plan for self-determination, it probably is getting depressing to people other than criminally-inclined males aged 18-24.

    If there was some objective this black ethnocentric politicisation was working towards, something positive, the establishment of African-American self-determination, a homeland. Otherwise maybe that unmet need just makes it depressing like for Native Americans who faced into oblivion and white Americans. Whipping people up into an ethnocentric frenzy and telling them the majority population is against them and creating antagonism is pretty depressing when you have to live with those people day to day.

    There certainly isn't a plan to elevate blacks socio-economically in play. Black politicisation is stuck in the 60s, LARPing the civil rights movement with no leadership to move it forward.

    As I've said before, what happened in 2020 looks like the beginning a nationalist movement for independence. But it is frustrated by nobody being able to articulate this and nobody much having any affection for any of the proposed black homelands. The lack of this need being met is probably quite depressing.

    Replies: @Currahee, @Pixo, @AnotherDad, @Almost Missouri, @Lurker, @Hi There

  140. • Thanks: Buffalo Joe
  141. @AnotherDad
    @Altai


    If there was some objective this black ethnocentric politicisation was working towards, something positive, the establishment of African-American self-determination, a homeland. Otherwise maybe that unmet need just makes it depressing like for Native Americans who faced into oblivion and white Americans. Whipping people up into an ethnocentric frenzy and telling them the majority population is against them and creating antagonism is pretty depressing when you have to live with those people day to day.
     
    Good stuff.

    Altai you're on a roll with excellent comments. You had one on Japan--that population cycles are no big deal if you keep your people intact--that i never got around to commenting on. Several more excellent ones, including a couple good one's yesterday.

    Yeah, i respect actual "black nationalists"--especially if they are realists about black dysfunction and just think "we need to do it ourselves; no other way". It would be a mess ... but it would be their mess.

    But minoritarianism is not a mentally healthy ideology--"you're oppressing us! give us more stuff! give us more stuff! you're mean! give me a cookie!" What are you, three?

    Look how much more mentally healthy seem the Jews--real Zionists who live in Israel, or Orthodox committed to their community, or patriots like Stephen Miller throwing in with whitey--who take responsibility for themselves, compared to the minoritarian, ADL types still blabbing about the Golfocaust or Harvard quotas or (the non-existent but ever rising) "anti-Semitism".

    There's just no end the ways "responsibility" is better than "dependency" and "blame". Including different peoples being in separate nations, responsible for and governing themselves.

    Replies: @Charon, @Triteleia Laxa, @martin_2, @Almost Missouri, @anon

    I was thinking the same thing with Altai’s comments.

    Especially I agree with him that the fundamental issue is that blacks cannot, unlike virtually any other race of people, create anything like a modern functional society without (or even dare I say with) massive non-white help. So although blacks advocate black ethnic nationalism, they don’t actually want that which is the logical consequence of that nationalism, which is their own country for them to run as they please. So white people get the worst of both worlds. They have to put up with people who are entirely dependent on them but who constantly whine and demand. Like having a baby but without the joy.

  142. How about we just cut to the chase: simone biles is personally getting a hell of a lot more attention now than if she and the US team had won the gold…

  143. @Triteleia Laxa
    @AnotherDad

    They take a form of responsibility. Black "minoritarians", for example, are often think that black have been just too kind, soulful, forgiving and all round amazing for their own good, and that treacherous whites have taken advantage of that. Does that count as "taking responsibility" to you?

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    They take a form of responsibility. Black “minoritarians”, for example, are often think that black have been just too kind, soulful, forgiving and all round amazing for their own good, and that treacherous whites have taken advantage of that. Does that count as “taking responsibility” to you?

    Not alone.

    It is possibly a legit analysis. But it is only credible if it’s followed up by “No thanks, we’ll go our own way.”

    “We’ll go out own way”, the willingness to separate, is the sine qua non of legitimacy of anyone’s oppression narrative.

    If you’re not ready to pack up and leave the other guy alone … you are not oppressed. (In fact, you are quite likely the oppressor!)

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @AnotherDad

    I agree with the sentiment, but what if the other side is going to keep the house?

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @AnotherDad

    “We’ll go our own way”, the willingness to separate, is the sine qua non of legitimacy of anyone’s oppression narrative."


    SINN FEIN AMHAIN!!

    Oh, I mean ourselves alone..... and plus all these Nigerians, too. How did (((that))) happen?

  144. Ed Buck sexually abused Black men.

  145. @AnotherDad
    @Triteleia Laxa


    They take a form of responsibility. Black “minoritarians”, for example, are often think that black have been just too kind, soulful, forgiving and all round amazing for their own good, and that treacherous whites have taken advantage of that. Does that count as “taking responsibility” to you?
     
    Not alone.

    It is possibly a legit analysis. But it is only credible if it's followed up by "No thanks, we'll go our own way."

    "We'll go out own way", the willingness to separate, is the sine qua non of legitimacy of anyone's oppression narrative.

    If you're not ready to pack up and leave the other guy alone ... you are not oppressed. (In fact, you are quite likely the oppressor!)

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    I agree with the sentiment, but what if the other side is going to keep the house?

  146. “It sounds like all this #BlackGirlMagic / #RacialReckoning / #Intersectionality hype might be taking a toll on Naomi Osaka, the torch-lighter who just went out in the first round of the Olympic tennis tournament”

    To be fair, officially Olympic athletes receive no compensation for their representing their countries. Whereas the US Open Tennis Tournament begins in about a month’s time, with minor tourneys beforehand. And the US Open is one of the pro circuits’ more higher paying tournaments.

    Sometimes its a matter as simply following the money.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    I think the golfers should put up their own money betting on themselves. That would increase interest. Otherwise, golf in the Olympics is pretty pointless.

    The Olympics should be for more minor sports that need a quadrennial showcase.

    The American baseball team is mostly perennial minor leaguers. I guess that's kind of fun -- a bunch of baseball lifers who never quite caught on in the Majors get to go to the Olympics. Sounds like it might make a pretty good Ron Shelton-type sports movie.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong

  147. LOL.

    Biden said, “My butt’s been wiped.”

  148. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jonathan Mason


    Those English soccer players who missed their penalty kicks did the right thing in taking a private jet to the Cayman Islands for a mental health break.
     
    And a tax break? Will they stay for 182 days?

    Probably not-- they've lost their endorsement opportunities, haven't they?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @gent

    Of course they haven’t.

  149. For those who are annoyed by the relentless blackity-black worship in the media, has there ever been a schadenfreude day as delicious as July 27 2021? Hey any athlete can have an off day, no shame in that. It’s the ridiculous and undeserved puffing up, and the over-the-top pride of these chicks, that makes some of us glad to see the crash. Moral of the story: don’t call yourself the Greatest until after the competition is done.

    • Agree: Old Prude
  150. Somewhat on topic.

    Yes… a loophole. No, it’s not a loophole, it’s simply an infraction that won’t be punished. You guys, the Anglophone media, are the loophole. Much like the debates about England taking the knee, it is obviously a breach.

    Now that this has been allowed, let’s see if any other athletes take advantage.

  151. @gandydancer
    I don't follow tennis, so this was news to me:

    Born in Japan to a Haitian father and a Japanese mother, Osaka has lived and trained in the United States since age three... Although Osaka was raised in the United States, her parents decided that their daughters would represent Japan. They said, "We made the decision that Naomi would represent Japan at an early age. She was born in Osaka and was brought up in a household of Japanese and Haitian culture. Quite simply, Naomi and her sister Mari have always felt Japanese so that was our only rationale. It was never a financially motivated decision nor were we ever swayed either way by any national federation."
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Osaka

    I assume that it's less competitive to become the top "Japanese" player than the top "American" one, but the latter is more remunerative?

    Replies: @jcd1974, @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    She’s a great player. Currently ranked number two in the world and has already won four majors.

  152. @Buffalo Joe
    @Alfa158

    Alfa, a friend of mine bought the big Mercedes sedan. He asked me to help him drive it to Scottsdale and then I could fly home first class. Driving through Texas we passed a feed lot. Had to be 250K steers. He opened the window to take a picture. Gag. And another day before we could get the smell out of our nostrils,clothes and the car.

    Replies: @additionalMike

    Mr. Joe, did you ever drive by a pig farm on a hot day, like the one on the Thruway west of Syracuse? It’ll take your breath away.

  153. @Altai
    I think part of it is the nihilism of this moment of black ethnocentric politics. There are no laws to be passed and there are no real problems with racism. So without that and without a plan for self-determination, it probably is getting depressing to people other than criminally-inclined males aged 18-24.

    If there was some objective this black ethnocentric politicisation was working towards, something positive, the establishment of African-American self-determination, a homeland. Otherwise maybe that unmet need just makes it depressing like for Native Americans who faced into oblivion and white Americans. Whipping people up into an ethnocentric frenzy and telling them the majority population is against them and creating antagonism is pretty depressing when you have to live with those people day to day.

    There certainly isn't a plan to elevate blacks socio-economically in play. Black politicisation is stuck in the 60s, LARPing the civil rights movement with no leadership to move it forward.

    As I've said before, what happened in 2020 looks like the beginning a nationalist movement for independence. But it is frustrated by nobody being able to articulate this and nobody much having any affection for any of the proposed black homelands. The lack of this need being met is probably quite depressing.

    Replies: @Currahee, @Pixo, @AnotherDad, @Almost Missouri, @Lurker, @Hi There

    Whipping people up into an ethnocentric frenzy and telling them the majority population is against them and creating antagonism is pretty depressing when you have to live with those people day to day.

    Pretty depressing for the majority white population too.

  154. @res
    @Desiderius

    Thanks. Here is a direct link to Anton's piece.
    https://americanmind.org/salvo/thats-not-happening-and-its-good-that-it-is/

    For a sample, I suspect all of us here recognize this one. Even if the name was new to me.


    The Celebration Parallax

    A parallax is the apparent difference in position of the same object seen from different vantage points. For instance, an analogue speedometer that reads sixty miles per hour to the driver, but fifty to the passenger—even though the needle itself is only in one place.

    The Celebration Parallax may be stated as: “the same fact pattern is either true and glorious or false and scurrilous depending on who states it.” In contemporary speech, on any “controversial” topic—or, to say better, regime priority—the decisive factor is the intent of the speaker. If she can be presumed to be celebrating the phenomenon under discussion, she may shout her approval from the rooftops. If not, he better shut up before someone comes along to shut him up.

    Note also that the key distinction here is celebration versus non-celebration, not support versus opposition.
     
    Here are the other six phenomena.
    The Law of Merited Impossibility
    The Law of Salutary Contradiction
    The Smails Exhortation
    The Lie-Back Imperative (note connection made there for this and the next to Steve's "War on Noticing")
    The Enmity Counteraccusation
    “You’re worthless, baby; and if you even think of trying to leave me, I’ll kill you”

    To be honest, none of those really resonate with me. Perhaps iSteve or someone else here can come up with catchier names for those phenomena? Or perhaps those will grow on me over time.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Jim Don Bob, @Neil Templeton, @Desiderius, @Kratoklastes

    Everything Michael Anton writes is worth reading. Same for Angelo Codevilla (sp?). Thanks for the link.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
  155. Cynical take: Biles was nervous about spoiling her record, so she just withdrew instead of taking a risk.

    Anyway, now would be good time to reiterate that today’s young females have record high levels of depression and anxiety, which has credibly been linked to the rise of modern social media in the 2010’s (girls raised in the digital realm spend so much time gossiping and comparing themselves to other girls that they can’t escape feeling perpetually bummed out). It used to be possible for girls to escape other girls, now it’s impossible due to smart phones and social media, and this leads to years of stress with devastating and possibly irreparable consequences.

    Boys are more naturally confident and not as hung up on what their peers think of them, and what’s more, modern technology hasn’t changed the way boys relate to each other all that much (overt male aggression isn’t really worsened by new tech).

    • Agree: Ron Mexico, El Dato
    • Replies: @Altai
    @Feryl


    and what’s more, modern technology hasn’t changed the way boys relate to each other all that much
     
    It was often mused why, outside the Sims, nobody had succeeded in making a video game that appeals to girls. But they did, social media is a multiplayer video game for girls.

    The amount of time guys spend on social media and the amount they contribute is a fraction of what girls do. That has been the engine of the great awokening. The bulk of commentary and opinion on the internet is from young women.

    Prior to around 2008 the joke was 'there are no girls on the internet'. Big shift.

    Replies: @dvorak, @Feryl, @Reg Cæsar

  156. @Feryl
    Cynical take: Biles was nervous about spoiling her record, so she just withdrew instead of taking a risk.

    Anyway, now would be good time to reiterate that today's young females have record high levels of depression and anxiety, which has credibly been linked to the rise of modern social media in the 2010's (girls raised in the digital realm spend so much time gossiping and comparing themselves to other girls that they can't escape feeling perpetually bummed out). It used to be possible for girls to escape other girls, now it's impossible due to smart phones and social media, and this leads to years of stress with devastating and possibly irreparable consequences.

    Boys are more naturally confident and not as hung up on what their peers think of them, and what's more, modern technology hasn't changed the way boys relate to each other all that much (overt male aggression isn't really worsened by new tech).

    Replies: @Altai

    and what’s more, modern technology hasn’t changed the way boys relate to each other all that much

    It was often mused why, outside the Sims, nobody had succeeded in making a video game that appeals to girls. But they did, social media is a multiplayer video game for girls.

    The amount of time guys spend on social media and the amount they contribute is a fraction of what girls do. That has been the engine of the great awokening. The bulk of commentary and opinion on the internet is from young women.

    Prior to around 2008 the joke was ‘there are no girls on the internet’. Big shift.

    • Replies: @dvorak
    @Altai


    The amount of time guys spend on social media and the amount they contribute is a fraction of what girls do.
     
    Technically, a blog comment section is social media. :D
    , @Feryl
    @Altai

    What's intriguing is that technology related to socializing, of all things, is more psychologically impactful than any other kind of prior technology. Since the dawn of (mass ownership of) TV in the 1950's, there's been much angst about tech induced degraded socializing of people. Yet TV was stationary, generally confined to one room in the house (before the late 80's) and didn't give a sense of enhanced social access to anyone (unless you were a nut with a celebrity fixation). But smartphones are portable devices to access anyone from your closest family and friends to (in theory) any stranger. This turns out to be a disaster for females who tend towards states of low-level warfare within themselves and against many other females.

    We need also to look declining rates of (female) happiness since the 1970's. It looks like men can better cope with the decline of socially rewarded mid-low skill labor than women can cope with the decline in being able to gain respite from the emotional turmoil of post-modern, post-feminist, techno-Nirvana turbo-neo liberal capitalist life that tells women to despise the notion of "settling" for a smelly loser male, siring his kids, and cleaning up after him for a lifetime. Of course, this is a corruption of the fact that women predominately hate most other women, it's just that they must overtly conform to the woke dogma of most men being stupid rapey frat boys responsible for most female problems.

    Pre-Bush 2nd term, most youth activism was trendy and airheadeded, with people quickly aging out of boldness into comfy careerism, often jettisoning anything political altogether. It happened to 50's and 60's Silents (Civil Rights), it happened to 70's and 80's Boomers (feminism and environmentalism), and it happened to 90's and 00's Gen X (tepid anti-capitalism/anti-imperialism and gay rights). But Millennials and Gen Z are much more fervent, and also are boosting the political freaks of older generations (whereas previous generations of youth detested most older people). Also, while young generations are reputed to be very Left-wing, it's also true that today's under 40 crown can also be very far Right. These aren't the Reaganite youth Horatio Algers of the mid-80's whose role model was Alex P Keaton. Neil Howe says that the popularity of current rulers of the global East among those nation's young people is often ignored by mainstream Western discourse. And once Silent and early Boomer voters are gone, Western political leaders are going to get a lot more heavy-handed, going where the East already is (older voters favor Silent and Boomer politicians for whom careerist moderation has been amply rewarding. Gen X and subsequent generations feel so screwed over that they don't want political leaders to tell them that everything is fine, just work hard and be patient).

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Altai


    It was often mused why, outside the Sims, nobody had succeeded in making a video game that appeals to girls.
     
    Pacman and Tetris were huge hits with the distaff demographic. Hillary and Chelsea would challenge each other to the latter on plane rides.
  157. Departing the Olympics so early is a much bigger deal for Biles than it is for Osaka. Competing in the Olympics is really the only thing that matters for gymnasts, while for tennis players the pro tour is far more important.

    • Agree: kaganovitch, Desiderius
    • Replies: @Ralph L
    @prosa123

    She withdrew from the team finals, not the individual event and all-around finals (yet).

    I'm sorry for the team, but it's literally her neck on the line.

  158. @bigdicknick
    @Buffalo Joe

    when you call yourself the GOAT different standards apply

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Big, I don’t know if she called herself the Greatest Ever and this from you, a guy who brags about his member. Stay safe.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Buffalo Joe

    I read that Biles has a little goat icon sewn onto her uniforms, which indicates a pretty high degree of hubris.

    Replies: @anon, @The Last Real Calvinist

    , @Rouetheday
    @Buffalo Joe

    I've always assumed that handle was meant to be ironic, like how a big, beefy middle linebacker looking guy gets nicknamed 'Tiny'.

    , @Gaspar DeLaFunk
    @Buffalo Joe

    Isn't bigdicknick a character from Monty Python?

  159. Blech people are immature psychopaths–this has happened many times before. The Williams Brothers–I mean “sisters”, always got “injured” when they were getting their azzes handed to them. Tiger Woods pulled it too. He played tough with injuries (if they were in fact real) when he was leading, but folded up and gimped around with sudden “injuries” when behind/losing.

    negroes have no graciousness, no integrity–and above all, no loyalty.

    • Replies: @Jack Armstrong
    @AceDeuce

    Donovan McNabb.

  160. So, so this. They’ve got to come to us. They have no choice. Lets figure out how to handle that well as they do.

  161. @Buffalo Joe
    @bigdicknick

    Big, I don't know if she called herself the Greatest Ever and this from you, a guy who brags about his member. Stay safe.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @Rouetheday, @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    I read that Biles has a little goat icon sewn onto her uniforms, which indicates a pretty high degree of hubris.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @anon
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    I read that Biles has a little goat icon sewn onto her uniforms,

    Huh.

    https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/tokyo-olympics/inside-creation-simone-biles-goat-leotard

    https://oneclicknews.org/twitter-creates-custom-goat-emoji-for-simone-biles-making-her-the-first-olympian-to-ever-receive-one/

    Goat, eh? Advertising something? Huh.

    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Here's a photo showing the goat on her shoulder:

    https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2021/06/07/de56b36f-20c4-4f07-b9cd-2ab537020948/thumbnail/770x433/2de0b5d1c61885ae67366526a2a0c682/gettyimages-1321947647.jpg

    Replies: @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Neil Templeton

  162. Blue fragility:

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    @Desiderius

    What a sorry-assed excuse for a law enforcement officer.

  163. [MORE]

  164. @AnotherDad
    @Triteleia Laxa


    They take a form of responsibility. Black “minoritarians”, for example, are often think that black have been just too kind, soulful, forgiving and all round amazing for their own good, and that treacherous whites have taken advantage of that. Does that count as “taking responsibility” to you?
     
    Not alone.

    It is possibly a legit analysis. But it is only credible if it's followed up by "No thanks, we'll go our own way."

    "We'll go out own way", the willingness to separate, is the sine qua non of legitimacy of anyone's oppression narrative.

    If you're not ready to pack up and leave the other guy alone ... you are not oppressed. (In fact, you are quite likely the oppressor!)

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “We’ll go our own way”, the willingness to separate, is the sine qua non of legitimacy of anyone’s oppression narrative.”

    SINN FEIN AMHAIN!!

    Oh, I mean ourselves alone….. and plus all these Nigerians, too. How did (((that))) happen?

  165. @Buffalo Joe
    @bigdicknick

    Big, I don't know if she called herself the Greatest Ever and this from you, a guy who brags about his member. Stay safe.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @Rouetheday, @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    I’ve always assumed that handle was meant to be ironic, like how a big, beefy middle linebacker looking guy gets nicknamed ‘Tiny’.

  166. @Buffalo Joe
    @bigdicknick

    Big, I don't know if she called herself the Greatest Ever and this from you, a guy who brags about his member. Stay safe.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @Rouetheday, @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    Isn’t bigdicknick a character from Monty Python?

  167. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Buffalo Joe

    I read that Biles has a little goat icon sewn onto her uniforms, which indicates a pretty high degree of hubris.

    Replies: @anon, @The Last Real Calvinist

  168. @gandydancer
    I don't follow tennis, so this was news to me:

    Born in Japan to a Haitian father and a Japanese mother, Osaka has lived and trained in the United States since age three... Although Osaka was raised in the United States, her parents decided that their daughters would represent Japan. They said, "We made the decision that Naomi would represent Japan at an early age. She was born in Osaka and was brought up in a household of Japanese and Haitian culture. Quite simply, Naomi and her sister Mari have always felt Japanese so that was our only rationale. It was never a financially motivated decision nor were we ever swayed either way by any national federation."
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Osaka

    I assume that it's less competitive to become the top "Japanese" player than the top "American" one, but the latter is more remunerative?

    Replies: @jcd1974, @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    Thank you for saying ‘remunerative.” Do you know how many otherwise intelligent people will spell it renumerative?
    I guess it just sounds right,saying it wrong.
    You’re very special.

  169. @AnotherDad
    @Altai


    If there was some objective this black ethnocentric politicisation was working towards, something positive, the establishment of African-American self-determination, a homeland. Otherwise maybe that unmet need just makes it depressing like for Native Americans who faced into oblivion and white Americans. Whipping people up into an ethnocentric frenzy and telling them the majority population is against them and creating antagonism is pretty depressing when you have to live with those people day to day.
     
    Good stuff.

    Altai you're on a roll with excellent comments. You had one on Japan--that population cycles are no big deal if you keep your people intact--that i never got around to commenting on. Several more excellent ones, including a couple good one's yesterday.

    Yeah, i respect actual "black nationalists"--especially if they are realists about black dysfunction and just think "we need to do it ourselves; no other way". It would be a mess ... but it would be their mess.

    But minoritarianism is not a mentally healthy ideology--"you're oppressing us! give us more stuff! give us more stuff! you're mean! give me a cookie!" What are you, three?

    Look how much more mentally healthy seem the Jews--real Zionists who live in Israel, or Orthodox committed to their community, or patriots like Stephen Miller throwing in with whitey--who take responsibility for themselves, compared to the minoritarian, ADL types still blabbing about the Golfocaust or Harvard quotas or (the non-existent but ever rising) "anti-Semitism".

    There's just no end the ways "responsibility" is better than "dependency" and "blame". Including different peoples being in separate nations, responsible for and governing themselves.

    Replies: @Charon, @Triteleia Laxa, @martin_2, @Almost Missouri, @anon

  170. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Buffalo Joe

    I read that Biles has a little goat icon sewn onto her uniforms, which indicates a pretty high degree of hubris.

    Replies: @anon, @The Last Real Calvinist

    Here’s a photo showing the goat on her shoulder:

    • Agree: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Gaspar DeLaFunk
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Plus,she put some kind of goat mask on her face.

    , @Neil Templeton
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    She's cute.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Jenner Ickham Errican

  171. OT, but I was thinking of sports which might die off as professional events and saw the NBA viewership figures here:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Finals_television_ratings

    They are in free fall, if you exclude Covid. The trend line even looks like they are sinking towards complete irrelevance. Young people are much less interested in sports, especially in watching whole games. Will the NBA be the first to go back from extravaganza to nothing much? If they fell again, as much as they did from 2016/17, they would hit 0.

    • Replies: @Feryl
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Older generations remember athletes who looked like your drinking buddies and didn't make a whole of money. They also remember a much less corporate, more free, culture. Oh, and athletes in the 4 major sports leagues were almost all from America and Canada, with a smallish number of Latins in baseball and Europeans in hockey.

    Today's athletes are wealthy by any reasonable standard, given the impoverished norm among those under 45. They represent the whole world, not the US (save football which is still localized to the US) They look physically extreme. Modern pro sports culture keeps athletes and team officials on a tight leash, with any controversial statement sure to lead to an apology and possible punishment.

    Older people imprinted on the relatable sports culture of pre-1980, younger people didn't.

  172. @prosa123
    Departing the Olympics so early is a much bigger deal for Biles than it is for Osaka. Competing in the Olympics is really the only thing that matters for gymnasts, while for tennis players the pro tour is far more important.

    Replies: @Ralph L

    She withdrew from the team finals, not the individual event and all-around finals (yet).

    I’m sorry for the team, but it’s literally her neck on the line.

  173. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Here's a photo showing the goat on her shoulder:

    https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2021/06/07/de56b36f-20c4-4f07-b9cd-2ab537020948/thumbnail/770x433/2de0b5d1c61885ae67366526a2a0c682/gettyimages-1321947647.jpg

    Replies: @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Neil Templeton

    Plus,she put some kind of goat mask on her face.

  174. @Altai
    @Feryl


    and what’s more, modern technology hasn’t changed the way boys relate to each other all that much
     
    It was often mused why, outside the Sims, nobody had succeeded in making a video game that appeals to girls. But they did, social media is a multiplayer video game for girls.

    The amount of time guys spend on social media and the amount they contribute is a fraction of what girls do. That has been the engine of the great awokening. The bulk of commentary and opinion on the internet is from young women.

    Prior to around 2008 the joke was 'there are no girls on the internet'. Big shift.

    Replies: @dvorak, @Feryl, @Reg Cæsar

    The amount of time guys spend on social media and the amount they contribute is a fraction of what girls do.

    Technically, a blog comment section is social media. 😀

    • Agree: gandydancer
  175. When black people win sports awards, corporate media like NYT, runs articles on #BlackGirlMagic, and the triumph of the black race, and how they overcome slavery, oppression, discrimination, and the KKK. When white people win sports awards, they will build a narrative of white racism and exclusion and discrimation, how the talented black athletes are excluded by white villains, preserving their racial hierarchy, etc.

    That’s all offensive. But it’s not the fault of black athletes, or regular black people walking down the street. It’s the fault of corporate media, the writers, the bosses, and the investors behind corporate media. You should direct your anger where it belongs, at the people behind corporate media, not some black people just trying to play sports, or going about their day.

    “Black Fragility” sounds like a jab at regular black people. Mock/insult the corporate media types, not regular black people just playing sports.

    BTW, Simone Biles is probably an idiot for flaking out. Maybe she’s torching her career. But, that’s not relevant to the salient politics of this. I don’t care about olympics or gymnastics or tennis.

    • Agree: gandydancer
    • Thanks: Abe
    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Hi There


    “Black Fragility” sounds like a jab at regular black people.

     

    Hi There! The above is true, it’s a good thing, and here’s why:

    Steve’s use of “Black Fragility” is a direct call-and-response to the already established anti-White term “White Fragility” which now is in common use among both Black and White lefty BlueChecks and everyday people, on the internet and in educational/corporate/government training (DiAngelo). “Black Fragility” is apropos, because Blacks (in aggregate) are indeed more psychologically volatile/fragile/retarded than Whites and other races, and so mockery, in the service of truth and the puncturing of pieties, is justified and accurate.

    Consider, contra the current official zeitgeist that pretends that Blacks are beneficially “magic”, that Black Fragility—while already long recognized by most on the right—is one of Steve’s important if obvious “Unknown Knowns.” The more it becomes a universal Known Known, the easier for society to move forward. Knowledge is good.

    Replies: @Hi There

  176. @res
    @Desiderius

    Thanks. Here is a direct link to Anton's piece.
    https://americanmind.org/salvo/thats-not-happening-and-its-good-that-it-is/

    For a sample, I suspect all of us here recognize this one. Even if the name was new to me.


    The Celebration Parallax

    A parallax is the apparent difference in position of the same object seen from different vantage points. For instance, an analogue speedometer that reads sixty miles per hour to the driver, but fifty to the passenger—even though the needle itself is only in one place.

    The Celebration Parallax may be stated as: “the same fact pattern is either true and glorious or false and scurrilous depending on who states it.” In contemporary speech, on any “controversial” topic—or, to say better, regime priority—the decisive factor is the intent of the speaker. If she can be presumed to be celebrating the phenomenon under discussion, she may shout her approval from the rooftops. If not, he better shut up before someone comes along to shut him up.

    Note also that the key distinction here is celebration versus non-celebration, not support versus opposition.
     
    Here are the other six phenomena.
    The Law of Merited Impossibility
    The Law of Salutary Contradiction
    The Smails Exhortation
    The Lie-Back Imperative (note connection made there for this and the next to Steve's "War on Noticing")
    The Enmity Counteraccusation
    “You’re worthless, baby; and if you even think of trying to leave me, I’ll kill you”

    To be honest, none of those really resonate with me. Perhaps iSteve or someone else here can come up with catchier names for those phenomena? Or perhaps those will grow on me over time.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Jim Don Bob, @Neil Templeton, @Desiderius, @Kratoklastes

    How about “people you can’t argue with” because premises are not agreed, your friends don’t have a granite’s grasp of logic, and they don’t like you.

  177. Anonymous[338] • Disclaimer says:
    @Zoos
    @Jonathan Mason


    On the other hand it could be the steroids that have psychological side effects.
     
    Possibly, but we know for a fact she has ADHD to beat the band, and the Olympic committee gave her a special waver allowing her to partake in whatever Ritalin prescription her doctors deem fit.

    She’s been on it for years.

    Her parents background are sketch. They dumped her off into the foster home network, her grandparents eventually found out, adopted her, and became her new parents. They appear to have done a better job than they did with their kid who had her. Again, details are sketch.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Possibly, but we know for a fact she has ADHD to beat the band, and the Olympic committee gave her a special waver allowing her to partake in whatever Ritalin prescription her doctors deem fit.

    She’s been on it for years.

    What percentage of blacks have ADHD? Is it higher than the rate in the White, Oriental, and subcon populations?

  178. @Altai
    I think part of it is the nihilism of this moment of black ethnocentric politics. There are no laws to be passed and there are no real problems with racism. So without that and without a plan for self-determination, it probably is getting depressing to people other than criminally-inclined males aged 18-24.

    If there was some objective this black ethnocentric politicisation was working towards, something positive, the establishment of African-American self-determination, a homeland. Otherwise maybe that unmet need just makes it depressing like for Native Americans who faced into oblivion and white Americans. Whipping people up into an ethnocentric frenzy and telling them the majority population is against them and creating antagonism is pretty depressing when you have to live with those people day to day.

    There certainly isn't a plan to elevate blacks socio-economically in play. Black politicisation is stuck in the 60s, LARPing the civil rights movement with no leadership to move it forward.

    As I've said before, what happened in 2020 looks like the beginning a nationalist movement for independence. But it is frustrated by nobody being able to articulate this and nobody much having any affection for any of the proposed black homelands. The lack of this need being met is probably quite depressing.

    Replies: @Currahee, @Pixo, @AnotherDad, @Almost Missouri, @Lurker, @Hi There

    There certainly isn’t a plan to elevate blacks socio-economically in play.

    Yes there is. Black people are doing a lot better in lots of fields. I personally know lots of black people who grew up in low income environments and have become middle class productive nurses or other health care workers. Their bosses and clients like them. It’s a win-win.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  179. @Altai
    @Feryl


    and what’s more, modern technology hasn’t changed the way boys relate to each other all that much
     
    It was often mused why, outside the Sims, nobody had succeeded in making a video game that appeals to girls. But they did, social media is a multiplayer video game for girls.

    The amount of time guys spend on social media and the amount they contribute is a fraction of what girls do. That has been the engine of the great awokening. The bulk of commentary and opinion on the internet is from young women.

    Prior to around 2008 the joke was 'there are no girls on the internet'. Big shift.

    Replies: @dvorak, @Feryl, @Reg Cæsar

    What’s intriguing is that technology related to socializing, of all things, is more psychologically impactful than any other kind of prior technology. Since the dawn of (mass ownership of) TV in the 1950’s, there’s been much angst about tech induced degraded socializing of people. Yet TV was stationary, generally confined to one room in the house (before the late 80’s) and didn’t give a sense of enhanced social access to anyone (unless you were a nut with a celebrity fixation). But smartphones are portable devices to access anyone from your closest family and friends to (in theory) any stranger. This turns out to be a disaster for females who tend towards states of low-level warfare within themselves and against many other females.

    We need also to look declining rates of (female) happiness since the 1970’s. It looks like men can better cope with the decline of socially rewarded mid-low skill labor than women can cope with the decline in being able to gain respite from the emotional turmoil of post-modern, post-feminist, techno-Nirvana turbo-neo liberal capitalist life that tells women to despise the notion of “settling” for a smelly loser male, siring his kids, and cleaning up after him for a lifetime. Of course, this is a corruption of the fact that women predominately hate most other women, it’s just that they must overtly conform to the woke dogma of most men being stupid rapey frat boys responsible for most female problems.

    Pre-Bush 2nd term, most youth activism was trendy and airheadeded, with people quickly aging out of boldness into comfy careerism, often jettisoning anything political altogether. It happened to 50’s and 60’s Silents (Civil Rights), it happened to 70’s and 80’s Boomers (feminism and environmentalism), and it happened to 90’s and 00’s Gen X (tepid anti-capitalism/anti-imperialism and gay rights). But Millennials and Gen Z are much more fervent, and also are boosting the political freaks of older generations (whereas previous generations of youth detested most older people). Also, while young generations are reputed to be very Left-wing, it’s also true that today’s under 40 crown can also be very far Right. These aren’t the Reaganite youth Horatio Algers of the mid-80’s whose role model was Alex P Keaton. Neil Howe says that the popularity of current rulers of the global East among those nation’s young people is often ignored by mainstream Western discourse. And once Silent and early Boomer voters are gone, Western political leaders are going to get a lot more heavy-handed, going where the East already is (older voters favor Silent and Boomer politicians for whom careerist moderation has been amply rewarding. Gen X and subsequent generations feel so screwed over that they don’t want political leaders to tell them that everything is fine, just work hard and be patient).

  180. anon[405] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    @Altai


    If there was some objective this black ethnocentric politicisation was working towards, something positive, the establishment of African-American self-determination, a homeland. Otherwise maybe that unmet need just makes it depressing like for Native Americans who faced into oblivion and white Americans. Whipping people up into an ethnocentric frenzy and telling them the majority population is against them and creating antagonism is pretty depressing when you have to live with those people day to day.
     
    Good stuff.

    Altai you're on a roll with excellent comments. You had one on Japan--that population cycles are no big deal if you keep your people intact--that i never got around to commenting on. Several more excellent ones, including a couple good one's yesterday.

    Yeah, i respect actual "black nationalists"--especially if they are realists about black dysfunction and just think "we need to do it ourselves; no other way". It would be a mess ... but it would be their mess.

    But minoritarianism is not a mentally healthy ideology--"you're oppressing us! give us more stuff! give us more stuff! you're mean! give me a cookie!" What are you, three?

    Look how much more mentally healthy seem the Jews--real Zionists who live in Israel, or Orthodox committed to their community, or patriots like Stephen Miller throwing in with whitey--who take responsibility for themselves, compared to the minoritarian, ADL types still blabbing about the Golfocaust or Harvard quotas or (the non-existent but ever rising) "anti-Semitism".

    There's just no end the ways "responsibility" is better than "dependency" and "blame". Including different peoples being in separate nations, responsible for and governing themselves.

    Replies: @Charon, @Triteleia Laxa, @martin_2, @Almost Missouri, @anon

    real Zionists who live in Israel, or Orthodox committed to their community ….–who take responsibility for themselves, compared to the minoritarian, ADL types still blabbing about the Golfocaust or Harvard quotas or (the non-existent but ever rising) “anti-Semitism”.

    Jewish Isrealis are just as into victimhood mythology and hostility toward Gentiles as Ashkenazi Jews in the West are.

  181. @res
    @Desiderius

    Thanks. Here is a direct link to Anton's piece.
    https://americanmind.org/salvo/thats-not-happening-and-its-good-that-it-is/

    For a sample, I suspect all of us here recognize this one. Even if the name was new to me.


    The Celebration Parallax

    A parallax is the apparent difference in position of the same object seen from different vantage points. For instance, an analogue speedometer that reads sixty miles per hour to the driver, but fifty to the passenger—even though the needle itself is only in one place.

    The Celebration Parallax may be stated as: “the same fact pattern is either true and glorious or false and scurrilous depending on who states it.” In contemporary speech, on any “controversial” topic—or, to say better, regime priority—the decisive factor is the intent of the speaker. If she can be presumed to be celebrating the phenomenon under discussion, she may shout her approval from the rooftops. If not, he better shut up before someone comes along to shut him up.

    Note also that the key distinction here is celebration versus non-celebration, not support versus opposition.
     
    Here are the other six phenomena.
    The Law of Merited Impossibility
    The Law of Salutary Contradiction
    The Smails Exhortation
    The Lie-Back Imperative (note connection made there for this and the next to Steve's "War on Noticing")
    The Enmity Counteraccusation
    “You’re worthless, baby; and if you even think of trying to leave me, I’ll kill you”

    To be honest, none of those really resonate with me. Perhaps iSteve or someone else here can come up with catchier names for those phenomena? Or perhaps those will grow on me over time.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Jim Don Bob, @Neil Templeton, @Desiderius, @Kratoklastes

    If Anton were catchy we wouldn’t be in this mess. He’s the taxonomist/pathologist. The marketing will have to fall to someone else.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Desiderius

    I came across Anton's text too. I think what he spells out is - that there are popular forms of Freud's rationalizations and other forms of automatic and or widely accepted misunderstandings/ misreadings of all kinds of phenomena and facts.

    What Anton is at, is what is really useful in this well known (ages old - not least Biblical and Goethean) context: To look out for popular labels, like Steve's - öhhh - that's just my mind, I can't help it, this thing is constantly moving, so: Taboos over noticing. I - öh I know, that that's not exactly what Steve says, but let me - for the sake of a little social experiment - try my version of Steve's war on noticing for a moment: Maybe my version is still sound and - has a chance to gain more traction because it is softer and might thus - be more attractive. - It is the soft drop of water, that wins over the solid rocks - - - a spectacle, that can be seen day in day out, just about a few hundred meters from here in the woods.
    Salutary Contradiction is good too. Imperative to lie back - a bit stiff.
    The mechanism behind Anton's formulas is that of emotion (convention) over phenomena and facts (reality/ the truth). So - what Anton fights is - the regressive part of left-wing ideas.

    Replies: @gandydancer

  182. @Desiderius
    Blue fragility:

    https://twitter.com/extradeadjcb/status/1420061474295267330?s=20

    Replies: @Neil Templeton

    What a sorry-assed excuse for a law enforcement officer.

    • Agree: J.Ross
  183. @Dumbo
    Or maybe she really had some issues? In this case, it might have nothing to do with race, really.

    Anyway, my problem with current female gymnastics (and gymnasts) is how unfeminine they are. Watch female gymnasts from the 60s or 70s (well, perhaps not those doped ones from Eastern Germany) and it's a different universe, not so much about strength and jumping 3 meters in the air but more about grace, more like a dance. Ice skating still remains feminine. They didn't need to masculinize gymnastics so much. Is it because of selection? (Selecting for specific body types?) Or perhaps it's effect of the drugs they use?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Thoughts

    Mary Lou Retton was kind of a human cannonball type.

  184. @R.G. Camara
    I'm reminded about how the Brooklyn Dodgers had to look long and hard to find a black player to break the color line.

    Before Branch Rickey found Jackie Robinson, he scoured the Negro Leagues for a player who could survive the pressure and taunts and yet be presentable to middle class white baseball fans. He rejected both Satchel Paige and Josh Gibson, two major stars. Ostensibly, it was because Paige was too old and too cocky (it would've pissed off whites and created another hated Jack Johnson), and Gibson due to Gibson's schizophrenia that he would display from time to time.

    But really, it was both about temperament. Paige was a man-among-boys type of player in the Negro leagues, a bully who embarrassed lesser players by calling all his fielders to the bench so he could strike out the palookas without any fielder behind him. Such players, however, are so emotional that when they're going good, they're great, but when they're going bad, they flop horribly and flip out. Prima donnas with childish temperaments. Paige being booed and called names and being the "first black" would've caused his egoism to turn either violent or suicidal. He was much better suited to coming into the league later, after white fans were used to blacks and wouldn't scream against them so much.

    With Gibson, the pressure would've triggered his schizo episodes, and he might have killed a fan or himself on the field.

    Robinson was way more mentally healthy than either. But it took Rickey a long time to find him. Most of the black stars were not mentally tough enough to handle it.

    Anyway, blacks can't handle the pressure, exhibits 233554 and 233555.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AceDeuce

    So that explains Michael Jordan’s poor record in NBA Finals.

    • Agree: gandydancer
    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @Steve Sailer

    Michael Jordan was an intelligent, well-spoken, talented, hard-working, confident but not uppity middle-class kid with two biological parents involved in his life, who experienced setback early in his sporting life (famously not making his high school varsity team) and overcame it, thus developing his personal grit and exposing him to failure early on so he could learn not to be beaten by it.

    He was precisely the kind of black that Branch Rickey would've been looking for to break the color barrier.

    However, Michael Jordans were and are in short supply, as Branch Rickey found out. Only Duke can consistently put a team together of such blacks, and even then, most of them go on to have only solid, middling NBA careers instead of world-beaters.

  185. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Here's a photo showing the goat on her shoulder:

    https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2021/06/07/de56b36f-20c4-4f07-b9cd-2ab537020948/thumbnail/770x433/2de0b5d1c61885ae67366526a2a0c682/gettyimages-1321947647.jpg

    Replies: @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Neil Templeton

    She’s cute.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @Neil Templeton


    She’s cute.
     
    You mean the goat?

    Replies: @Neil Templeton

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Neil Templeton


    She’s cute.
     
    Bruh, check out how she walks—she got some kind of palsy or something?


    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/07/28/05/45950971-9833243-Simone_made_a_very_uncharacteristic_and_very_severe_error_during-a-93_1627446099918.jpg
  186. @Triteleia Laxa
    OT, but I was thinking of sports which might die off as professional events and saw the NBA viewership figures here:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Finals_television_ratings

    They are in free fall, if you exclude Covid. The trend line even looks like they are sinking towards complete irrelevance. Young people are much less interested in sports, especially in watching whole games. Will the NBA be the first to go back from extravaganza to nothing much? If they fell again, as much as they did from 2016/17, they would hit 0.

    Replies: @Feryl

    Older generations remember athletes who looked like your drinking buddies and didn’t make a whole of money. They also remember a much less corporate, more free, culture. Oh, and athletes in the 4 major sports leagues were almost all from America and Canada, with a smallish number of Latins in baseball and Europeans in hockey.

    Today’s athletes are wealthy by any reasonable standard, given the impoverished norm among those under 45. They represent the whole world, not the US (save football which is still localized to the US) They look physically extreme. Modern pro sports culture keeps athletes and team officials on a tight leash, with any controversial statement sure to lead to an apology and possible punishment.

    Older people imprinted on the relatable sports culture of pre-1980, younger people didn’t.

    • Agree: Captain Tripps
  187. @Neil Templeton
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    She's cute.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    She’s cute.

    You mean the goat?

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    @Intelligent Dasein

    No.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  188. @Known Fact
    So, drugs? Off of drugs to pass the tests? Long-term damage due to performance enhancers? Vax side-effects? Centuries of red-lining?

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    So, drugs? Off of drugs to pass the tests? Long-term damage due to performance enhancers? Vax side-effects? Centuries of red-lining?

    Emmett Till, of course.

  189. @R.G. Camara
    I'm reminded about how the Brooklyn Dodgers had to look long and hard to find a black player to break the color line.

    Before Branch Rickey found Jackie Robinson, he scoured the Negro Leagues for a player who could survive the pressure and taunts and yet be presentable to middle class white baseball fans. He rejected both Satchel Paige and Josh Gibson, two major stars. Ostensibly, it was because Paige was too old and too cocky (it would've pissed off whites and created another hated Jack Johnson), and Gibson due to Gibson's schizophrenia that he would display from time to time.

    But really, it was both about temperament. Paige was a man-among-boys type of player in the Negro leagues, a bully who embarrassed lesser players by calling all his fielders to the bench so he could strike out the palookas without any fielder behind him. Such players, however, are so emotional that when they're going good, they're great, but when they're going bad, they flop horribly and flip out. Prima donnas with childish temperaments. Paige being booed and called names and being the "first black" would've caused his egoism to turn either violent or suicidal. He was much better suited to coming into the league later, after white fans were used to blacks and wouldn't scream against them so much.

    With Gibson, the pressure would've triggered his schizo episodes, and he might have killed a fan or himself on the field.

    Robinson was way more mentally healthy than either. But it took Rickey a long time to find him. Most of the black stars were not mentally tough enough to handle it.

    Anyway, blacks can't handle the pressure, exhibits 233554 and 233555.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AceDeuce

    Robinson’s “ordeal” breaking into “White” baseball has been greatly exaggerated. He, BTW, was a world-class a**/hole himself.

    Of course, now, in the retelling, he’s black Jeebus in the Garden of Gethsemane.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @AceDeuce

    Rickey and the Dodgers made a very big deal about Robinson' breaking the barrier, promoting it to the moon (Rickey was trying to draw black fans in as well as get national media exposure), and many left-wing groups did as well to begin desegregation efforts. All that put roughly double or triple the pressure a big league rookie of the time would've faced (and yes, Robinson was older and more experienced than most rookies, but still, the big leagues were far beyond the bush Negro leagues).

    Whether the amount of racial slurs hurled at him were far fewer and less vicious than reported -- and I don't disagree with that being a possibility -- the kind of pressure put on Robinson from those cheering him on would've cracked most rookies, no matter what the color.

    And that's before we get to the palpable pressure cooker the Brooklyn fans would've put on him to finally get them over their Red Sox-like hump of never winning the big one but getting oh-so-close.

    An easy time breaking in Robinson did not have.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar, @AceDeuce

  190. @Desiderius
    @res

    If Anton were catchy we wouldn't be in this mess. He's the taxonomist/pathologist. The marketing will have to fall to someone else.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    I came across Anton’s text too. I think what he spells out is – that there are popular forms of Freud’s rationalizations and other forms of automatic and or widely accepted misunderstandings/ misreadings of all kinds of phenomena and facts.

    What Anton is at, is what is really useful in this well known (ages old – not least Biblical and Goethean) context: To look out for popular labels, like Steve’s – öhhh – that’s just my mind, I can’t help it, this thing is constantly moving, so: Taboos over noticing. I – öh I know, that that’s not exactly what Steve says, but let me – for the sake of a little social experiment – try my version of Steve’s war on noticing for a moment: Maybe my version is still sound and – has a chance to gain more traction because it is softer and might thus – be more attractive. – It is the soft drop of water, that wins over the solid rocks – – – a spectacle, that can be seen day in day out, just about a few hundred meters from here in the woods.
    Salutary Contradiction is good too. Imperative to lie back – a bit stiff.
    The mechanism behind Anton’s formulas is that of emotion (convention) over phenomena and facts (reality/ the truth). So – what Anton fights is – the regressive part of left-wing ideas.

    • Replies: @gandydancer
    @Dieter Kief


    ... So – what Anton fights is – the regressive part of left-wing ideas.
     
    Were you drunk when you wrote that post, or is that the best you can do at coherence?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

  191. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Neil Templeton


    She’s cute.
     
    You mean the goat?

    Replies: @Neil Templeton

    No.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Neil Templeton




    She’s cute.
     
    You mean the goat?
     
    No.
     
    Careful, guys. The nanny state is watching.


    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6f/d7/2e/6fd72e14c0eecf990a4c48bbe1d32799.jpg


    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/182/659/8e3.jpg

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

  192. @Grahamsno(G64)
    The US lost its round 1 match to France in Basketball!

    https://www.nba.com/news/live-updates-team-usa-opens-olympic-play-vs-france

    Replies: @anon

    Consider a reaction gif of some Seinfeld character laughing and laughing inserted here.

  193. @res
    @Desiderius

    Thanks. Here is a direct link to Anton's piece.
    https://americanmind.org/salvo/thats-not-happening-and-its-good-that-it-is/

    For a sample, I suspect all of us here recognize this one. Even if the name was new to me.


    The Celebration Parallax

    A parallax is the apparent difference in position of the same object seen from different vantage points. For instance, an analogue speedometer that reads sixty miles per hour to the driver, but fifty to the passenger—even though the needle itself is only in one place.

    The Celebration Parallax may be stated as: “the same fact pattern is either true and glorious or false and scurrilous depending on who states it.” In contemporary speech, on any “controversial” topic—or, to say better, regime priority—the decisive factor is the intent of the speaker. If she can be presumed to be celebrating the phenomenon under discussion, she may shout her approval from the rooftops. If not, he better shut up before someone comes along to shut him up.

    Note also that the key distinction here is celebration versus non-celebration, not support versus opposition.
     
    Here are the other six phenomena.
    The Law of Merited Impossibility
    The Law of Salutary Contradiction
    The Smails Exhortation
    The Lie-Back Imperative (note connection made there for this and the next to Steve's "War on Noticing")
    The Enmity Counteraccusation
    “You’re worthless, baby; and if you even think of trying to leave me, I’ll kill you”

    To be honest, none of those really resonate with me. Perhaps iSteve or someone else here can come up with catchier names for those phenomena? Or perhaps those will grow on me over time.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Jim Don Bob, @Neil Templeton, @Desiderius, @Kratoklastes

    That load of twaddle was an just compilation of half-smart names for shit the guy finds tiresome in others. It’s the PoliSci eqquivalent of ‘New Yorker’/’Frasier’ smirk-humour.

    Also, fuck people who try to call things ‘Laws’ when they’re just rules (y compris those who wrote the ‘Laws’ of cricket and rugby). That’s just an attempt to pretend there’s an overarching – and unimpeachable – source of these rules, such that kicking against the traces is the same as committing a malum in se.

    Anton’s counter will be that it is the other side who view these things as ‘laws’ rather than articles of their particular faith; however they would deny that, because they don’t believe that’s what they’re doing (they’re wrong, but who gives a fuck?)

    Anton’s a Straussian – and ergo, a hair-splitting ‘whatabout’-ist whose primary objective is to win arguments irrespective of the merits or truth value. A bullshitter, in other words.

    The idea that the ‘alt-Right’ (or whatever) thinks that there’s an existential crisis because the Left has the ‘commanding heights’, is patently stupid. The Left can give sinecures to its pet chimps like Kendi, Gladwell, and Coates and then try to lionise their every utterance… but the end of the day they convince nobody who matters.

    Being alarmed by a modest uptick in inchoate Leftist pablum as if it’s a precursor to sending Euromutts to the camps, is like being alarmed at the prospect of a nutbar fundamentalist theocracy because Westboro Baptists got in the news. It’s pearl-clutching hysteria that befits scared old women.

    It’s just Idiocracy playing out in real-time: everyone’s convinced that things are now so cartoonish that academic polemicists can ‘move the ball’ in their desired direction… in reality all they’re doing is parrotting things that their paymasters tell them to: Anton’s typical in his refusal to identify the paymasters.

  194. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "It sounds like all this #BlackGirlMagic / #RacialReckoning / #Intersectionality hype might be taking a toll on Naomi Osaka, the torch-lighter who just went out in the first round of the Olympic tennis tournament"

    To be fair, officially Olympic athletes receive no compensation for their representing their countries. Whereas the US Open Tennis Tournament begins in about a month's time, with minor tourneys beforehand. And the US Open is one of the pro circuits' more higher paying tournaments.

    Sometimes its a matter as simply following the money.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I think the golfers should put up their own money betting on themselves. That would increase interest. Otherwise, golf in the Olympics is pretty pointless.

    The Olympics should be for more minor sports that need a quadrennial showcase.

    The American baseball team is mostly perennial minor leaguers. I guess that’s kind of fun — a bunch of baseball lifers who never quite caught on in the Majors get to go to the Olympics. Sounds like it might make a pretty good Ron Shelton-type sports movie.

    • Replies: @Jack Armstrong
    @Steve Sailer

    When are the “Chariots of Fire” types going to make “Plunge for Distance”?



     
    Daniel Day Lewis?
  195. @AceDeuce
    Blech people are immature psychopaths--this has happened many times before. The Williams Brothers--I mean "sisters", always got "injured" when they were getting their azzes handed to them. Tiger Woods pulled it too. He played tough with injuries (if they were in fact real) when he was leading, but folded up and gimped around with sudden "injuries" when behind/losing.

    negroes have no graciousness, no integrity--and above all, no loyalty.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong

    Donovan McNabb.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
  196. @Altai
    @Feryl


    and what’s more, modern technology hasn’t changed the way boys relate to each other all that much
     
    It was often mused why, outside the Sims, nobody had succeeded in making a video game that appeals to girls. But they did, social media is a multiplayer video game for girls.

    The amount of time guys spend on social media and the amount they contribute is a fraction of what girls do. That has been the engine of the great awokening. The bulk of commentary and opinion on the internet is from young women.

    Prior to around 2008 the joke was 'there are no girls on the internet'. Big shift.

    Replies: @dvorak, @Feryl, @Reg Cæsar

    It was often mused why, outside the Sims, nobody had succeeded in making a video game that appeals to girls.

    Pacman and Tetris were huge hits with the distaff demographic. Hillary and Chelsea would challenge each other to the latter on plane rides.

  197. @Neil Templeton
    @Intelligent Dasein

    No.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    She’s cute.

    You mean the goat?

    No.

    Careful, guys. The nanny state is watching.

    • LOL: Dieter Kief
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Reg Cæsar

    The similarities are - they are real, man. I've never seen anything like that parallel since Jim and Lassie! - Or Hoss and his horse, ok. STUNNING! - I'll link that to Hailtoyou.wordpress.com - Hail has a great portrait of Robin DiAngelo online.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  198. @Steve Sailer
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    I think the golfers should put up their own money betting on themselves. That would increase interest. Otherwise, golf in the Olympics is pretty pointless.

    The Olympics should be for more minor sports that need a quadrennial showcase.

    The American baseball team is mostly perennial minor leaguers. I guess that's kind of fun -- a bunch of baseball lifers who never quite caught on in the Majors get to go to the Olympics. Sounds like it might make a pretty good Ron Shelton-type sports movie.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong

    When are the “Chariots of Fire” types going to make “Plunge for Distance”?

    Daniel Day Lewis?

  199. @usNthem
    It’ll also be implied (or stated) it’s YT’s fault, specifically American YTs who put too much expectation pressure on poor little simone - you know, greatest women’s gymnast ever, America’s sweetheart - what a crock. Frankly, I’d be surprised if even half the (former) country knows who the hell she is.

    Replies: @JimB

    Simone Biles is no Nadia Comaneci or Mary Lou Retton, that’s for sure. Biles probably should have been disqualified for having too high levels of testosterone.

  200. @Buffalo Joe
    Simone is one of the best ever, no denying that. Emotional stress can be debilitating. True fact. Emotions play a huge role in our health. Yesterday our host was pleading for help with his impending depression. Give the girl a break. She is given no room to be less than perfect.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Henry's Cat, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Dave Pinsen, @bigdicknick, @Kratoklastes

    The flipside of “You come at the King, you best not miss” is “If you self-refer as the GOAT, you best not bitch out“.

    Anyone who self-refers as the GOAT is a FIGJAM (“Fuck I‘m Good: Just Ask Me”).

    FIGJAM’s always derogatory.

    That goat motif on her leotard will always be the evidence that she wilted when she couldn’t have her meds (PEDs). Biles is a full-weight FIGJAM now.

    • Thanks: Old Prude
  201. @Intelligent Dasein
    Biles and Osaka drop out at the biggest moment in their careers. The three black lions of the UK whiff their grand moment at the Euro whatever Cup. Kaepernick takes a knee.

    This comes as no surprise to anyone who has ever supervised black employees. It is typical for them to quit the moment the job requires any effort beyond verbal self-glorification and routine tasks.

    And it's time to stop pretending that blacks are good at sports. All competition depends on will and courage, which blacks do not have.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Intelligent Dasein reasoning from first principles:

    “And it’s time to stop pretending that blacks are good at sports. All competition depends on will and courage, which blacks do not have.”

    Who ya gonna believe? Intelligent Dasein or your lying eyes?

    • Agree: gandydancer
    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Steve Sailer


    BREAKING NEWS: Simone Biles WITHDRAWS from the individual all-around competition at the Tokyo Olympics to 'focus on her mental health' - just a day after dramatically pulling out halfway through the team event
     
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-9833799/Tokyo-Olympics-Simone-Biles-WITHDRAWS-individual-competition.html
    , @Thoughts
    @Steve Sailer

    Blacks are good at sport Steve

    But there is a trend of blacks buckling under pressure

    And the 'Under Pressure' is the thing that takes sport from 'Eh' to 'Heroic'

    Sport without the pressure, without the moments of sublime willpower

    Is nothing

    Ergo...blacks are bad at sport...or at least under the current gestalt...becoming bad at sport

    So again Liberalism destroys the one thing blacks naturally excel at

    , @Mike Tre
    @Steve Sailer

    The two sports blacks dominate in the US, football and basketball, have had the rules changed so drastically in order to accommodate THE two things black excel at (running fast and jumping high) that those sports hardly resemble the things they were 50 years ago.

    The only reason blacks haven’t become 90% of the MLB is because they haven’t been able to figure out how to change the rules to make it easier for blacks to dominate it, or they would have by now.

  202. @Hi There
    When black people win sports awards, corporate media like NYT, runs articles on #BlackGirlMagic, and the triumph of the black race, and how they overcome slavery, oppression, discrimination, and the KKK. When white people win sports awards, they will build a narrative of white racism and exclusion and discrimation, how the talented black athletes are excluded by white villains, preserving their racial hierarchy, etc.

    That's all offensive. But it's not the fault of black athletes, or regular black people walking down the street. It's the fault of corporate media, the writers, the bosses, and the investors behind corporate media. You should direct your anger where it belongs, at the people behind corporate media, not some black people just trying to play sports, or going about their day.

    "Black Fragility" sounds like a jab at regular black people. Mock/insult the corporate media types, not regular black people just playing sports.

    BTW, Simone Biles is probably an idiot for flaking out. Maybe she's torching her career. But, that's not relevant to the salient politics of this. I don't care about olympics or gymnastics or tennis.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    “Black Fragility” sounds like a jab at regular black people.

    Hi There! The above is true, it’s a good thing, and here’s why:

    Steve’s use of “Black Fragility” is a direct call-and-response to the already established anti-White term “White Fragility” which now is in common use among both Black and White lefty BlueChecks and everyday people, on the internet and in educational/corporate/government training (DiAngelo). “Black Fragility” is apropos, because Blacks (in aggregate) are indeed more psychologically volatile/fragile/retarded than Whites and other races, and so mockery, in the service of truth and the puncturing of pieties, is justified and accurate.

    Consider, contra the current official zeitgeist that pretends that Blacks are beneficially “magic”, that Black Fragility—while already long recognized by most on the right—is one of Steve’s important if obvious “Unknown Knowns.” The more it becomes a universal Known Known, the easier for society to move forward. Knowledge is good.

    • Replies: @Hi There
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    Steve’s use of “Black Fragility” is a direct call-and-response to the already established anti-White term “White Fragility
     
    ok, I fully support mocking phrases like "White Fragility".

    Replies: @gandydancer

  203. @Neil Templeton
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    She's cute.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    She’s cute.

    Bruh, check out how she walks—she got some kind of palsy or something?

    [MORE]

  204. @Anon
    https://theathletic.com/news/2021-olympics-simone-biles-fighting-demons-will-return-for-all-around/qwEaqkub26At

    It's contagious:

    Biles said she was inspired by tennis star Naomi Osaka, who also lost at the Olympics on Tuesday, to focus on her mental health. Before the Olympics, Osaka hadn't played a match since her first-round win at the French Open. She pulled out of Roland Garros after that match to prioritize her mental health.

    "There’s more to life than just gymnastics,” Biles said. She added that she had "never felt like this before."

    "Once I came out here, I was like, no the mental is not there," she said. "I had to let the girls do it."
     
    This is the equivalent of telling your professor you need a delay in an exam or paper deadline, or maybe cancellation and an automatic A, because of the stress and exhaustion of [insert latest blackety-black incident].

    Replies: @al gore rhythms

    Also notice this phrase–“I had to let the girls do it”–and ask yourself what the media would say if a white gymnast in a black team pulled out saying they were ‘letting the boys do it’.

  205. @Steve Sailer
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Intelligent Dasein reasoning from first principles:

    "And it’s time to stop pretending that blacks are good at sports. All competition depends on will and courage, which blacks do not have."

    Who ya gonna believe? Intelligent Dasein or your lying eyes?

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre

    BREAKING NEWS: Simone Biles WITHDRAWS from the individual all-around competition at the Tokyo Olympics to ‘focus on her mental health’ – just a day after dramatically pulling out halfway through the team event

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-9833799/Tokyo-Olympics-Simone-Biles-WITHDRAWS-individual-competition.html

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
  206. @Tiny Duck
    Simone Biles is the greatest and did the right thing by not putting herself and her team in danger by not going out there when she wasnt %100

    Look at how the media and sports industyr has rallied around her

    That tells you something right there

    You losers have obvioulsy never known the touch of a woman and have never played sports

    Black Lives Matter

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    Tiny Duck wrote:

    Simone Biles is the greatest and did the right thing by not putting herself and her team in danger by not going out there when she wasnt %100

    For once, you are probably on target.

    But for someone at Biles’ level to just “lose it” does raise lots of interesting questions.

    One issue: have we moved too far towards a “winner-take-all” society in which all merely ordinary human beings are guaranteed to be “losers”?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @PhysicistDave


    One issue: have we moved too far towards a “winner-take-all” society in which all merely ordinary human beings are guaranteed to be “losers”?

     

    Have you heard about companies asking for "full-stack developers" and developers calling themselves "full-stack developers"?

    I always call them "full of shit developers".

    This society is very unhealthy. I blame Hollywood fare multiplied with utter ignorance.
  207. She doesn’t have a mental health problem, she has a case of the yips.
    She’s a choker.

  208. @Dumbo
    Or maybe she really had some issues? In this case, it might have nothing to do with race, really.

    Anyway, my problem with current female gymnastics (and gymnasts) is how unfeminine they are. Watch female gymnasts from the 60s or 70s (well, perhaps not those doped ones from Eastern Germany) and it's a different universe, not so much about strength and jumping 3 meters in the air but more about grace, more like a dance. Ice skating still remains feminine. They didn't need to masculinize gymnastics so much. Is it because of selection? (Selecting for specific body types?) Or perhaps it's effect of the drugs they use?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Thoughts

    Ice Skating is no longer feminine

    I always side with Russians because they are still feminine, American females are just linebackers

    I remember praying praying that the Russians would win ice skating a few years ago cuz they were just so much better…but it didn’t happen…triple axel b.s. won the day

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Thoughts

    The Russian Bolshoi Ballet tradition can be seen in their figure skaters and gymnasts.

    It's an interesting question: should women's Artistic Gymnastics be a test of athleticism or artistry? The Olympics also have Rhythmic Gymnastics, which is tilted toward feminine artistry.

    Maybe they should have Athletic Gymnastics for pure tumbling? But the tension in Artistic Gymnastics between athleticism and artistry makes it along with figure skating two of the most popular Olympic sports.

    Replies: @Agathoklis, @Bardon Kaldian

  209. @Steve Sailer
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Intelligent Dasein reasoning from first principles:

    "And it’s time to stop pretending that blacks are good at sports. All competition depends on will and courage, which blacks do not have."

    Who ya gonna believe? Intelligent Dasein or your lying eyes?

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre

    Blacks are good at sport Steve

    But there is a trend of blacks buckling under pressure

    And the ‘Under Pressure’ is the thing that takes sport from ‘Eh’ to ‘Heroic’

    Sport without the pressure, without the moments of sublime willpower

    Is nothing

    Ergo…blacks are bad at sport…or at least under the current gestalt…becoming bad at sport

    So again Liberalism destroys the one thing blacks naturally excel at

  210. @PhysicistDave
    @Tiny Duck

    Tiny Duck wrote:


    Simone Biles is the greatest and did the right thing by not putting herself and her team in danger by not going out there when she wasnt %100
     
    For once, you are probably on target.

    But for someone at Biles' level to just "lose it" does raise lots of interesting questions.

    One issue: have we moved too far towards a "winner-take-all" society in which all merely ordinary human beings are guaranteed to be "losers"?

    Replies: @El Dato

    One issue: have we moved too far towards a “winner-take-all” society in which all merely ordinary human beings are guaranteed to be “losers”?

    Have you heard about companies asking for “full-stack developers” and developers calling themselves “full-stack developers”?

    I always call them “full of shit developers”.

    This society is very unhealthy. I blame Hollywood fare multiplied with utter ignorance.

    • Agree: Bumpkin
  211. @peterike
    This Olympics is proving surprisingly entertaining! Here's hoping for one last collapse of the U.S. women's soccer team to make my joy complete.

    Girl's gymnastics is a weird form of child abuse somehow made acceptable due to media idolatry. Nobody under 18 should be allowed to participate in the Olympics. It's demonic.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    peteriken wrote:

    Girl’s gymnastics is a weird form of child abuse somehow made acceptable due to media idolatry. Nobody under 18 should be allowed to participate in the Olympics. It’s demonic.

    I think we need to take that seriously.

    As an adolescent, I was very academically focused: taught myself special relativity, read Keynes’ General Theory, cover-to-cover (and found some errors), etc.

    But I still had time to ride my bike, shoot baskets, be a Boy Scout, date a couple girls, watch (the original) Star Trek, etc.

    Not just the young Olympians, but a lot of the young kids nowadays who are aiming for elite colleges… I think we are depriving them of their childhood.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @PhysicistDave


    read Keynes’ General Theory, cover-to-cover (and found some errors), etc.
     
    The error begins at the word "General".
  212. @Thoughts
    @Dumbo

    Ice Skating is no longer feminine

    I always side with Russians because they are still feminine, American females are just linebackers

    I remember praying praying that the Russians would win ice skating a few years ago cuz they were just so much better...but it didn't happen...triple axel b.s. won the day

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    The Russian Bolshoi Ballet tradition can be seen in their figure skaters and gymnasts.

    It’s an interesting question: should women’s Artistic Gymnastics be a test of athleticism or artistry? The Olympics also have Rhythmic Gymnastics, which is tilted toward feminine artistry.

    Maybe they should have Athletic Gymnastics for pure tumbling? But the tension in Artistic Gymnastics between athleticism and artistry makes it along with figure skating two of the most popular Olympic sports.

    • Replies: @Agathoklis
    @Steve Sailer

    Perhaps the only agreeable Taliban policy is their position on women in sport.

    More women in sport leads to less women of childbearing age in very productive years which in turn leads to low TFR resulting in mass immigration/pen borders and the death of nations.

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Steve Sailer

    Not females, but ... Definitely athleticism.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GFVI7dvPPU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBmy9JWyCS4

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  213. @UNIT472
    Found this discussion of the 2021 Olympics from Russian TV. It is definitely not woke.


    "In a hateful rampage that is shocking even by the Kremlin’s standards, Russian state TV is railing against Black and LGBTQ+ athletes competing in the Tokyo Olympics, blasting the Games as a cesspool of degradation, debauchery, and “impurity.”

    The most recent target of these attacks is star gymnast Simone Biles, who withdrew from the women’s gymnastics team final on Tuesday citing mental health concerns.

    “According to her passport, she is actually a woman. What this woman has been taking in order to look like this, God only knows,” Olga Skabeeva, host of the Kremlin-sponsored TV program 60 Minutes, said of Biles, who was the first to congratulate Russian gymnasts on their Olympic gold medals.

    Skabeeva’s ugly tirade continued: “She supposedly has heart problems and therefore is gobbling up Meldonium and all kinds of other stuff… Now look at our gymnasts, they’re one-third her girth and actually look like girls! They also look like people, but Simone looks like devil knows what...”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/olympics/olympic-purity-pundits-slam-biles-in-racist-transphobic-media-tirade/ar-AAMD88S?ocid=msedgntp
    "

    Replies: @El Dato

    Based!

    “Historically, in the United States and Europe, sports were the pastime of white males, because why would a negro be jumping around in the ring, instead of picking cotton?,” Alexei Naumov, of the Russian International Affairs Council, said on 60 Minutes last week. His rant included a point where he pondered out loud about whether Black people should be segregated into a “Negro League” competitions, claiming “they run faster than whites.”

    That actually sounds like an idea…

    Discussing the inclusion of trans competitors in the evening broadcast of 60 Minutes the same day, military expert Igor Korotchenko fumed: “It’s a nasty sight. If those people want to compete, take them out somewhere out of bounds of the Olympic games, because it’s a disgrace for the Olympics. In ancient Greece, people of non-traditional sexual orientation weren’t allowed to participate. We need to protect the purity of the Olympic games.”

    These are the last Olympics that were meant to be taken seriously.

    Former U.S. president Donald Trump’s public objections against transgender athletes, which are aligned with the Kremlin, were picked up by TASS and painstakingly transcribed by RT on Saturday. Video clips of Trump’s comments were also aired by state media TV channels.

    LOL.

  214. @GamecockJerry
    My wife is a former Olympic gymnast (from Hungary) and we were discussing this today. I was shocked how sympathetic she was to Simone. She said as you get older you start to fear the routines that when you were 16 you didn't even think about. Simone had reduced the difficulty of her routines while performing and this was causing her to make mistakes on easier stuff.

    I think most of us can think back on things we did as kids and think wtf was i thinking. We weren't.

    Hopefully she can regroup before the individual events.

    Okay, now back to the hair.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Yes, 23 is old for a female gymnast.

    And these events are scary.

    There’s a general problem with the judged events that the competitors push to try ever more extreme stunts, with ever bigger risks of injury. The winter olympics have introduced in recent years some crazy X-men type events. There’s a general concern about women competitors wrecking their knees on landings because they aren’t as sturdy as men.

    I guess that Biles can do (or perhaps in the past tense could do) some tricks so dangerous that the officials won’t give her extra credit for them.

  215. @PhysicistDave
    @peterike

    peteriken wrote:


    Girl’s gymnastics is a weird form of child abuse somehow made acceptable due to media idolatry. Nobody under 18 should be allowed to participate in the Olympics. It’s demonic.
     
    I think we need to take that seriously.

    As an adolescent, I was very academically focused: taught myself special relativity, read Keynes' General Theory, cover-to-cover (and found some errors), etc.

    But I still had time to ride my bike, shoot baskets, be a Boy Scout, date a couple girls, watch (the original) Star Trek, etc.

    Not just the young Olympians, but a lot of the young kids nowadays who are aiming for elite colleges... I think we are depriving them of their childhood.

    Replies: @El Dato

    read Keynes’ General Theory, cover-to-cover (and found some errors), etc.

    The error begins at the word “General”.

    • LOL: PhysicistDave
  216. Some male golfers have totally fallen apart at the mental side of the game, such as Ian Baker-Finch, a British Open champ, who could hit the 160 yard wide first fairway at St. Andrews after awhile.

    Rick Ankiel lost control of his pitching in a postseason baseball game and gave up being a pitcher. Years later, he made it back to the majors as an outfield and hit a decent number of homers.

    Zack Greinke went 5-17 as a young pitcher, then took the next year off from baseball. Today, he’s on track for the Hall of Fame. When he has to give a press conference, he mostly gives one word answers and looks extremely uncomfortable.

    Jackie Jensen’s baseball career was ruined by fear of flying around 1960. NFL coach John Madden retired due to fear of flying. He became the most popular football commenter ever. He traveled around the country from game to game by RV.

  217. @Patrick in SC
    Mental fragility is going to be a huge thing going forward in sports, amateur as well as professional.

    Just the other day, a star catcher for the Chicago White Sox said he was done with baseball. And then one day later changed his mind. Contrast: When a young Mickey Mantle broke down in tears after struggling in his rookie season, his Dad pulled out a suitcase and said, "Fine, let's go home. I thought I had a raised a man." This rest is baseball history.

    Up until now, "injuries" were the prime escape hatch for athletes driven to the brink. Back in 2008, one of China's top male athletes was a hurdler. Right before the first race, he experienced a "pulled hamstring." Too much pressure, especially with the games in his home country. I think the injury was psychosomatic (psychogenic, really, as in caused by the mind). The New York Yankees roster is filled with players under guaranteed contracts who are constantly bugging out with tightness in their quads or forearms. It's a load of nonsense. If you pulled this stuff in 1949 it was back to the farm, so nobody pulled it.

    Now, as people become more accepting of mental fragility, the "mind-body" connection may no longer be needed to create psychogenic "injuries." Just flaking out, mentally, will be enough.

    Paging General Patton.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    The amount of pressure that Oriental countries put on their star athletes on the International stage is intense. Their golfers tend to wilt in the final round of major championships, although this year a Japanese man finally won a major. In contrast, Japanese-American Collin Morikawa has already won 2 majors at age 24 and doesn’t seem to have a nervous bone in his body.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Steve Sailer

    As a Steve Sailer reader, it sounds to me like Collin is following a rigorous and scientifically-precise beta blocker regimen.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  218. @Joseph A.
    @Buffalo Joe

    Absolutely. Apart from all the racial nonsense, SB has been extraordinarily, continuously hyped for the past four years. But she _is_ amazing and a joy to watch, and it saddens me to see her go out like this.

    @Arclight -- yes, there is expected Olympic pressure, but the media increase that forty-fold by making certain athletes into global superstars. Michael Phelps, for all his fame and awards, isn't recognized enough for being able to overcome that insanity. And even he had missteps . . . but he overcame them, and he deserves worldwide admiration. Should MP, though, be the bar that we expect of all? He's one in 7 billion.

    For these folks turned into demigods -- almost all of whom are still pretty young and immature -- medaling isn't enough. Not even gold is enough. They judge themselves by perfection, and they start to believe that the rest of the world does, too. That's terribly unfair.

    OK, bringing Blackness back into it . . . every decent black American feels like an involuntary ambassador to America and the world, representing other American blacks. These people did not ask for that role, but it just happens, reinforced from many quarters. That is an additional stress that whites, until recently and now only in certain places, did not have to bear. Add all the other pressures -- such as being a role-model . . . no, the role-model for young black athletic girls who still think of themselves as girls. And for all girls aspiring to be great gymnasts . . . and all the silliness about the gold being theirs to lose. It's a shame. Psychologically disadvantageous. The media did this because it's good business to personalize the games. It works, which is why I am upset with this story. It's a shame, though. Bring back the Amateur Magic; leave BGM to the Naw'lins voodoos.

    Replies: @Spect3r, @Buffalo Joe

    “OK, bringing Blackness back into it . . . every decent black American feels like an involuntary ambassador to America and the world, representing other American blacks. These people did not ask for that role, but it just happens, reinforced from many quarters. That is an additional stress that whites, until recently and now only in certain places, did not have to bear. ”

    Are you being serious?!? You surely cant be serious!

  219. @Paperback Writer
    @Paperback Writer

    Maybe she's going through w/drawal:

    https://twitter.com/tummymuncher/status/1420123041485443078?s=20

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    Maybe she’s going through w/drawal:

    Just more proof they’re all on drugs.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Not Janet Evans!

    https://www.wcspeakers.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/9958.jpg

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

  220. @Steve Sailer
    @Thoughts

    The Russian Bolshoi Ballet tradition can be seen in their figure skaters and gymnasts.

    It's an interesting question: should women's Artistic Gymnastics be a test of athleticism or artistry? The Olympics also have Rhythmic Gymnastics, which is tilted toward feminine artistry.

    Maybe they should have Athletic Gymnastics for pure tumbling? But the tension in Artistic Gymnastics between athleticism and artistry makes it along with figure skating two of the most popular Olympic sports.

    Replies: @Agathoklis, @Bardon Kaldian

    Perhaps the only agreeable Taliban policy is their position on women in sport.

    More women in sport leads to less women of childbearing age in very productive years which in turn leads to low TFR resulting in mass immigration/pen borders and the death of nations.

  221. @the one they call Desanex
    Sung to the tune of “Backstabbers” (The O’Jays):

    I just wanna win first place,
    They say I gotta represent my race.
    The Blackstabbers
    (Blackstabbers!)

    They keep the pressure up,
    Then act surprised if I don’t measure up.
    The Blackstabbers
    (Blackstabbers!)

    Ay, ay-ay-ay-ay-ay
    Low down, dirty
    Da da da da-da-da, da da da
    (What they do?)

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    Good to see you voxxin’ and a poppin’. Now try “For The Love of Money.”

  222. @Joseph A.
    @Buffalo Joe

    Absolutely. Apart from all the racial nonsense, SB has been extraordinarily, continuously hyped for the past four years. But she _is_ amazing and a joy to watch, and it saddens me to see her go out like this.

    @Arclight -- yes, there is expected Olympic pressure, but the media increase that forty-fold by making certain athletes into global superstars. Michael Phelps, for all his fame and awards, isn't recognized enough for being able to overcome that insanity. And even he had missteps . . . but he overcame them, and he deserves worldwide admiration. Should MP, though, be the bar that we expect of all? He's one in 7 billion.

    For these folks turned into demigods -- almost all of whom are still pretty young and immature -- medaling isn't enough. Not even gold is enough. They judge themselves by perfection, and they start to believe that the rest of the world does, too. That's terribly unfair.

    OK, bringing Blackness back into it . . . every decent black American feels like an involuntary ambassador to America and the world, representing other American blacks. These people did not ask for that role, but it just happens, reinforced from many quarters. That is an additional stress that whites, until recently and now only in certain places, did not have to bear. Add all the other pressures -- such as being a role-model . . . no, the role-model for young black athletic girls who still think of themselves as girls. And for all girls aspiring to be great gymnasts . . . and all the silliness about the gold being theirs to lose. It's a shame. Psychologically disadvantageous. The media did this because it's good business to personalize the games. It works, which is why I am upset with this story. It's a shame, though. Bring back the Amateur Magic; leave BGM to the Naw'lins voodoos.

    Replies: @Spect3r, @Buffalo Joe

    Joseph, a Gold Border worthy comment although I have no authority to issue one. I wish people would learn that it is nice to be nice.

  223. @Tiny Duck
    The huge weight and expectation Simone has on her. Hoping she's OK and has support. She is an incredible woman.

    Plus the IOC the IOC is not going to give her the scores she deserves so why bother. This is pure racism. A white gymnast performing half as good would get scores twice as good

    It is hard to be a Black Woman and have to deal with racism and white supremacy AND have to serve a white supremacist society in its quest for olympic glory.

    Hopefully all the losers criticising her will reevlaute their lives and do something productive instead of bashing a strong CHAMPION Woman of Colour.

    She will be back and DOMINATE the individual compettions

    The basketball team will KILL IT in the end

    Womens soccer will KILL IT and you guys can go back to fuming about demographic change

    I have noticed that the USA DOMINATES sports where they are diverse and suck a fatty at white sports

    That tells you something right there

    Your day is coming racists and deniers

    Replies: @Possumman, @JimDandy, @TWS, @Donald A Thomson

    Must not be watching the swimming

  224. @Tiny Duck
    The huge weight and expectation Simone has on her. Hoping she's OK and has support. She is an incredible woman.

    Plus the IOC the IOC is not going to give her the scores she deserves so why bother. This is pure racism. A white gymnast performing half as good would get scores twice as good

    It is hard to be a Black Woman and have to deal with racism and white supremacy AND have to serve a white supremacist society in its quest for olympic glory.

    Hopefully all the losers criticising her will reevlaute their lives and do something productive instead of bashing a strong CHAMPION Woman of Colour.

    She will be back and DOMINATE the individual compettions

    The basketball team will KILL IT in the end

    Womens soccer will KILL IT and you guys can go back to fuming about demographic change

    I have noticed that the USA DOMINATES sports where they are diverse and suck a fatty at white sports

    That tells you something right there

    Your day is coming racists and deniers

    Replies: @Possumman, @JimDandy, @TWS, @Donald A Thomson

    Meanwhile, in other Girl Boss Olympian news, progressive authorities are reminding women who are celebrated for participating in violent sports that when it comes down to it they are delicate little flowers with no agency.

    https://wgntv.com/news/judo-coach-warned-after-slapping-female-competitor-before-olympic-bout/

  225. @Steve Sailer
    @Patrick in SC

    The amount of pressure that Oriental countries put on their star athletes on the International stage is intense. Their golfers tend to wilt in the final round of major championships, although this year a Japanese man finally won a major. In contrast, Japanese-American Collin Morikawa has already won 2 majors at age 24 and doesn't seem to have a nervous bone in his body.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    As a Steve Sailer reader, it sounds to me like Collin is following a rigorous and scientifically-precise beta blocker regimen.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @JimDandy

    It's legal to take beta blockers against stage fright in classical music, so a lot do.

    It's also legal in golf.

  226. @The Alarmist
    This seems so very un-black ... what happened to their innate overblown sense of self-esteem?

    Replies: @donut

    Reality .

  227. @Tiny Duck
    The huge weight and expectation Simone has on her. Hoping she's OK and has support. She is an incredible woman.

    Plus the IOC the IOC is not going to give her the scores she deserves so why bother. This is pure racism. A white gymnast performing half as good would get scores twice as good

    It is hard to be a Black Woman and have to deal with racism and white supremacy AND have to serve a white supremacist society in its quest for olympic glory.

    Hopefully all the losers criticising her will reevlaute their lives and do something productive instead of bashing a strong CHAMPION Woman of Colour.

    She will be back and DOMINATE the individual compettions

    The basketball team will KILL IT in the end

    Womens soccer will KILL IT and you guys can go back to fuming about demographic change

    I have noticed that the USA DOMINATES sports where they are diverse and suck a fatty at white sports

    That tells you something right there

    Your day is coming racists and deniers

    Replies: @Possumman, @JimDandy, @TWS, @Donald A Thomson

    This gets only a 2/10 quacks. Come on man, where’s the white women chase black Johnson? Where’s the poor spelling and ridiculous claims of a black tide sweeping over a white world?

    You throw a funny black pill most times, why this soggy limp-wristed pitch?

    • Agree: Adam Smith
    • LOL: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    @TWS


    You throw a funny black pill most times, why this soggy limp-wristed pitch?
     
    He's under a lot of pressure to perform.
  228. @Steve Sailer
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Intelligent Dasein reasoning from first principles:

    "And it’s time to stop pretending that blacks are good at sports. All competition depends on will and courage, which blacks do not have."

    Who ya gonna believe? Intelligent Dasein or your lying eyes?

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre

    The two sports blacks dominate in the US, football and basketball, have had the rules changed so drastically in order to accommodate THE two things black excel at (running fast and jumping high) that those sports hardly resemble the things they were 50 years ago.

    The only reason blacks haven’t become 90% of the MLB is because they haven’t been able to figure out how to change the rules to make it easier for blacks to dominate it, or they would have by now.

    • Thanks: Hangnail Hans
  229. @Jonathan Mason
    @Jonathan Mason

    On the other hand it could be the steroids that have psychological side effects.

    Replies: @Barnard, @Zoos, @Mike Tre

    This is the hormone equivalent of a flat-earther.

  230. @Anonymous
    I’m sure she feels internal pressure to win. And there is some external pressure to do well, big money sponsorships and such. But if you look at what actually happened, it’s clear how little external pressure was actually placed on her by the media, the public and even USA gymnastics. This was among the worst possible outcomes. She quit in the middle of the team event, not even individual event, and not because she was hurt, but because of what appears to be a kind of tantrum (maybe it’s something more than that, but I say appears because this is all we know for the moment) and still the response is overwhelming support. People are literally saying they are proud of her for quitting on her team. Any pressure to do well seems to have been imaginary.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

    Pressure comes in different forms. There’s a passive-aggressive nature to over-praise. Adulation is a prison. The absurd praise for quitting is just a continuation of the same perverse white masochist’s worship, and if blacks had perception in these matters they would disdain it. It reveals how much the praise is false, dishonest signaling, in that it can only intensify when contradicted.
    Black girls, being magic, are not allowed to be human. Being a vector for the elites’ destruction of society is exhausting, I guess.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Dennis Dale


    Black girls, being magic, are not allowed to be human. Being a vector for the elites’ destruction of society is exhausting, I guess.

     

    That is exceptionally well-stated, Dennis.
  231. res says:
    @Colin Wright
    Biles is twenty four -- ancient for a female gymnast.

    I wonder if she realized she just didn't have it any more, and decided to get out rather than risk humiliation?

    Replies: @res

    Biles is twenty four — ancient for a female gymnast.

    Mostly true. But there are exceptions.
    46-year-old gymnast Oksana Chusovitina gets standing ovation after competing in her eighth Olympic Games
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oksana-chusovitina-final-olympics-standing-ovation/

    Also see this.
    https://abc7chicago.com/olympics-2021-olympic-gymnastics-uniform-womens/10910027/

    But other nations have defied that emphasis on youth, including the Germans: Elisabeth Seitz is 27, Kim Bui is 32, Pauline Schafer is 24, and Voss is 21. Their average age of 26.

    • Thanks: Colin Wright, AceDeuce
  232. res says:
    @Jesse
    You're missing the story here. The reason is that this was the first Olympics to ban Ritalin. She has ADHD. I can totally see that being devastating for her performance.

    Of course, the usual suspects on social media are now claiming the new rule is, wait for it, racist. Because White people apparently don't have withdrawal symptoms from Ritalin.

    Replies: @res

    You’re missing the story here. The reason is that this was the first Olympics to ban Ritalin. She has ADHD. I can totally see that being devastating for her performance.

    Seems likely, but do you have any good sources for that? I am having trouble finding anything useful with my searches. Which is often a clue.

    As an example, this article showed up in a search, but seems to no longer be up. Here is an archive page.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20210422072304/https://japantoday.com/category/tokyo-2020-olympics/law-may-allow-olympic-athletes-to-bring-medical-stimulants-into-japan

    The article talks about possibly allowing Olympic athletes to bring stimulants into Japan. So what happened?

    • Replies: @gandydancer
    @res

    Jesse is telling you something which appears to be untrue (" this was the first Olympics to ban Ritalin") so I wouldn't take anything else he says very seriously. That Biles was taking Ritalin was revealed years ago precisely because the list of athletes with Therapeutic Use Exemptions was hacked and she was on it. https://www.sportskeeda.com/gymnastics/explained-simone-biles-doping-controversy-therapeutic-use-exemption I've seen nothing to indicate that such exemptions have been comprehensively revoked.

    The Ritalin withdrawal theory is advanced here https://www.tellerreport.com/sports/2021-07-29-%22simone-could-have-broken-without-any-ritalin%22--durmanov-on-biles--problems--%22withdrawal-syndrome%22-and-american-gymnasts.r1wKOYskyt.html, but without, so far as I can see, any basis for that crucial element.

    I think I might have seen something about allowed dosages for some drugs being revised, but I wouldn't recall if Ritalin was affected. If that affected Biles we would have heard about it by now. It's too good an excuse. And there would have been a big fuss about it beforehand.

    Replies: @res

  233. @Spangel226
    I have seen ample evidence of black fragility in various endeavors- exhaustion from having to explain racism, against perceived slights about hair, from being at the bottom of the class in law school….

    But this I am skeptical of. Black athletes, both male and female, have been competing and winning at the highest stages of most sports for decades. There has never been a patterned problem with them having to drop out due to pressure. Biles has competed and won numerous highly visible competitions with plenty of pressure to be the best. It was not a problem for her. You don’t become an Olympic level athlete and then one day just decide to quit because of mental stress. No one makes it to the Olympics with such mentality.

    My suspicion is that she has covid and wants to make some other excuse so she doesn’t get negative press for refusing to get vaccinated. They said members of the gymnastics team had it. Why not her? As for why she is claiming a mental rather than physical problem, perhaps she or her handlers decided she would get more sympathy and attention from claiming mental health issues since that is a fad now.

    Replies: @SteveRogers42

    Don’t forget “England’s” PK meltdown in the Euro soccer final.

    Supa Affletes!

  234. @TWS
    @Tiny Duck

    This gets only a 2/10 quacks. Come on man, where's the white women chase black Johnson? Where's the poor spelling and ridiculous claims of a black tide sweeping over a white world?

    You throw a funny black pill most times, why this soggy limp-wristed pitch?

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd

    You throw a funny black pill most times, why this soggy limp-wristed pitch?

    He’s under a lot of pressure to perform.

  235. @Known Fact
    Fitting that the biggest story out of these Olympics is a look-at-me emo thing

    Replies: @Old Prude

    “Goat” has more than one meaning. G.O.A.T., which is getting a bit tiresome, and goat: An all-around screw-up (lowest GPA in the graduating class, e.g.). It looks like the emoji has a pleasingly ironic utility.

  236. @Reg Cæsar
    @Neil Templeton




    She’s cute.
     
    You mean the goat?
     
    No.
     
    Careful, guys. The nanny state is watching.


    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6f/d7/2e/6fd72e14c0eecf990a4c48bbe1d32799.jpg


    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/182/659/8e3.jpg

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    The similarities are – they are real, man. I’ve never seen anything like that parallel since Jim and Lassie! – Or Hoss and his horse, ok. STUNNING! – I’ll link that to Hailtoyou.wordpress.com – Hail has a great portrait of Robin DiAngelo online.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Dieter Kief

    Nanny, originally a nickname for Ann(e), was applied to she-goats centuries ago, as was billy to males. We also have tom for male turkeys and cats, kit (Christopher) for baby foxes, jack (John) and jenny (Jane) for asses, hob (Robert) and jill for ferrets, jill and joey for kangaroos, and so on down the line. Dobbin (Robert) is, or was, a name traditionally given to horses, as is Polly (Mary) to parrots.

    Nannies are also governesses (hence "nanny state"), presumably from the same derivation, but whether this had any connection to goats...?

    Come to think of it, baby goats are kids-- goats having the name long before humans-- who are watched over by nannies. Why we looked to this creature, out of all those in the barnyard, to refer to our own offspring is worth looking into.

    Do Germans and other Europeans engage in such nonsense? Google Translate claims "nanny goat" is Kindermädchen Ziege. Somehow I doubt that.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

  237. @Dieter Kief
    @Desiderius

    I came across Anton's text too. I think what he spells out is - that there are popular forms of Freud's rationalizations and other forms of automatic and or widely accepted misunderstandings/ misreadings of all kinds of phenomena and facts.

    What Anton is at, is what is really useful in this well known (ages old - not least Biblical and Goethean) context: To look out for popular labels, like Steve's - öhhh - that's just my mind, I can't help it, this thing is constantly moving, so: Taboos over noticing. I - öh I know, that that's not exactly what Steve says, but let me - for the sake of a little social experiment - try my version of Steve's war on noticing for a moment: Maybe my version is still sound and - has a chance to gain more traction because it is softer and might thus - be more attractive. - It is the soft drop of water, that wins over the solid rocks - - - a spectacle, that can be seen day in day out, just about a few hundred meters from here in the woods.
    Salutary Contradiction is good too. Imperative to lie back - a bit stiff.
    The mechanism behind Anton's formulas is that of emotion (convention) over phenomena and facts (reality/ the truth). So - what Anton fights is - the regressive part of left-wing ideas.

    Replies: @gandydancer

    … So – what Anton fights is – the regressive part of left-wing ideas.

    Were you drunk when you wrote that post, or is that the best you can do at coherence?

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @gandydancer

    gandydancer, have you ever heard of the catch-phrase Dave Rubin coined about the left? - It goes like this: The Regressive Left. - See what I was talking about?

    btw. - I think that it is a rather inappropriate behavior from anonymi like you to make ad personam attacks of your kind.

  238. What happened to all that talk about superior black reflexes, Steve?

  239. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Hi There


    “Black Fragility” sounds like a jab at regular black people.

     

    Hi There! The above is true, it’s a good thing, and here’s why:

    Steve’s use of “Black Fragility” is a direct call-and-response to the already established anti-White term “White Fragility” which now is in common use among both Black and White lefty BlueChecks and everyday people, on the internet and in educational/corporate/government training (DiAngelo). “Black Fragility” is apropos, because Blacks (in aggregate) are indeed more psychologically volatile/fragile/retarded than Whites and other races, and so mockery, in the service of truth and the puncturing of pieties, is justified and accurate.

    Consider, contra the current official zeitgeist that pretends that Blacks are beneficially “magic”, that Black Fragility—while already long recognized by most on the right—is one of Steve’s important if obvious “Unknown Knowns.” The more it becomes a universal Known Known, the easier for society to move forward. Knowledge is good.

    Replies: @Hi There

    Steve’s use of “Black Fragility” is a direct call-and-response to the already established anti-White term “White Fragility

    ok, I fully support mocking phrases like “White Fragility”.

    • Replies: @gandydancer
    @Hi There

    Cossack anti-fragility: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9gBk0P9yEc

  240. @Tiny Duck
    The huge weight and expectation Simone has on her. Hoping she's OK and has support. She is an incredible woman.

    Plus the IOC the IOC is not going to give her the scores she deserves so why bother. This is pure racism. A white gymnast performing half as good would get scores twice as good

    It is hard to be a Black Woman and have to deal with racism and white supremacy AND have to serve a white supremacist society in its quest for olympic glory.

    Hopefully all the losers criticising her will reevlaute their lives and do something productive instead of bashing a strong CHAMPION Woman of Colour.

    She will be back and DOMINATE the individual compettions

    The basketball team will KILL IT in the end

    Womens soccer will KILL IT and you guys can go back to fuming about demographic change

    I have noticed that the USA DOMINATES sports where they are diverse and suck a fatty at white sports

    That tells you something right there

    Your day is coming racists and deniers

    Replies: @Possumman, @JimDandy, @TWS, @Donald A Thomson

    It’s all crap about black fragility. People who’ll cheerfully steal in front of TV cameras aren’t fragile. They have hides like elephants.

    Why do athletes of all races run away from competitions? They’re scared they’ll fail the drug tests. I remember a Central American games years ago where they weren’t going to have drug tests. At the last moment, they announced a change of plan. About a third of the US team immediately became ill and went home. “Just a coincidence” lied the Yanks.

    The only reason Olympics drug cheating punishment changed from life to a maximum suspension of 2 years is because a US judge decided it was cruel and unusual punishment for a black US drug cheat to be banned for life and, if he was, he could sue the Olympics organisers for damages for trying to stop US cheating. When even US judges support US drug cheating, it’s not rare.

    Biles is no orphan; US Blacks using drugs isn’t unusual. Lance Armstrong lives again with a different sex and skin colour.

    Of course, you can always say “oh the fragility, the black super sensitivity, we’re all pussies”. I don’t even believe you’re that weak. Prove me wrong. Such an absurd claim will need supporting evidence. For example, if you claim that you’re a heterosexual man but, when you were 16, an unarmed 13 year old boy raped you in the street and you were too afraid to say no, it’d have to be supported with an offer to provide statutory declarations from the laughing witnesses. [email protected]

  241. @Anon
    I noticed that yesterday there was a sudden spurt of "physics" articles about Biles:

    The physics behind the extraordinary feats Biles is expected to pull off at the Summer Games
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-simone-biles-does-her-most-difficult-gymnastics-moves-11627320600

    The Wall Street Journal asked physicist Eric Goff, a professor at the University of Lynchburg, to analyze the scientific underpinning of the extraordinary feats she is expected to pull off at t these Olympics.
     
    Wired has a bunch of differential calculus prominently displayed in their piece:

    The Incredible Physics of Simone Biles' Yurchenko Double Pike
    https://www.wired.com/story/the-incredible-physics-of-simone-biles-yurchenko-double-pike/

    Watch Simone Biles Hit a Physics-Defying Triple-Double in Super Slo-Mo
    https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/648814/simone-biles-triple-double-slo-mo-video

    There seems to be an emphasis on "physics" in writing about her. I wonder if this is an unconscious (implicit bias?) tendency to attribute whenever possible and however obliquely powers to blacks (in this case STEM cognitive ability) that the reporters at all these woke publication know in their hearts blacks don't have. ("She's a great physicist at the Olympics! Who cares if there are no black physicists with Nobel prizes!") The Chandra Prescod-Weinstein view seems to be that there is some sort of hidden alternative physics that blacks have access to and would have invented and used to ride us to Alpha Centauri had only there not been colonialization of Africa, slavery, Jim Crow, and redlining. We need to recover this wisdom, and maybe Simone Biles combined with closer study of the Lebombo bone and the Ishango bone will help in that effort.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    The point is obviously to educate the unwoke as to the fact that Biles spent hours every evening calculating the integers and differentials that she would physically practice the next day.

  242. @Steve Sailer
    @Thoughts

    The Russian Bolshoi Ballet tradition can be seen in their figure skaters and gymnasts.

    It's an interesting question: should women's Artistic Gymnastics be a test of athleticism or artistry? The Olympics also have Rhythmic Gymnastics, which is tilted toward feminine artistry.

    Maybe they should have Athletic Gymnastics for pure tumbling? But the tension in Artistic Gymnastics between athleticism and artistry makes it along with figure skating two of the most popular Olympic sports.

    Replies: @Agathoklis, @Bardon Kaldian

    Not females, but … Definitely athleticism.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Men gymnasts are astonishing, but they don't get much attention paid to them. Are there any countries where guy gymnasts get more attention than the girl gymnasts?

    I guess people don't take their masculinity seriously. I can recall that after the gymnastic competition in Atlanta in 1996 was over, they put on an unjudged TV gala where the champs did exhibition routines. They forced the men to do floor routines to music the way the women do in competition but the men never do. The first American guy who had to do his floor routine to music chose Booker T and the MG's instrumental "Green Onions," which is perhaps the least feminine song ever:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oox9bJaGJ8

    Replies: @Charon, @Bardon Kaldian

  243. @Dennis Dale
    @Anonymous

    Pressure comes in different forms. There's a passive-aggressive nature to over-praise. Adulation is a prison. The absurd praise for quitting is just a continuation of the same perverse white masochist's worship, and if blacks had perception in these matters they would disdain it. It reveals how much the praise is false, dishonest signaling, in that it can only intensify when contradicted.
    Black girls, being magic, are not allowed to be human. Being a vector for the elites' destruction of society is exhausting, I guess.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    Black girls, being magic, are not allowed to be human. Being a vector for the elites’ destruction of society is exhausting, I guess.

    That is exceptionally well-stated, Dennis.

  244. @Steve Sailer
    @R.G. Camara

    So that explains Michael Jordan's poor record in NBA Finals.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    Michael Jordan was an intelligent, well-spoken, talented, hard-working, confident but not uppity middle-class kid with two biological parents involved in his life, who experienced setback early in his sporting life (famously not making his high school varsity team) and overcame it, thus developing his personal grit and exposing him to failure early on so he could learn not to be beaten by it.

    He was precisely the kind of black that Branch Rickey would’ve been looking for to break the color barrier.

    However, Michael Jordans were and are in short supply, as Branch Rickey found out. Only Duke can consistently put a team together of such blacks, and even then, most of them go on to have only solid, middling NBA careers instead of world-beaters.

  245. @AceDeuce
    @R.G. Camara

    Robinson's "ordeal" breaking into "White" baseball has been greatly exaggerated. He, BTW, was a world-class a**/hole himself.

    Of course, now, in the retelling, he's black Jeebus in the Garden of Gethsemane.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    Rickey and the Dodgers made a very big deal about Robinson’ breaking the barrier, promoting it to the moon (Rickey was trying to draw black fans in as well as get national media exposure), and many left-wing groups did as well to begin desegregation efforts. All that put roughly double or triple the pressure a big league rookie of the time would’ve faced (and yes, Robinson was older and more experienced than most rookies, but still, the big leagues were far beyond the bush Negro leagues).

    Whether the amount of racial slurs hurled at him were far fewer and less vicious than reported — and I don’t disagree with that being a possibility — the kind of pressure put on Robinson from those cheering him on would’ve cracked most rookies, no matter what the color.

    And that’s before we get to the palpable pressure cooker the Brooklyn fans would’ve put on him to finally get them over their Red Sox-like hump of never winning the big one but getting oh-so-close.

    An easy time breaking in Robinson did not have.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @R.G. Camara

    And Robinson had really only been focusing on baseball since his mid 20s. At UCLA he'd been a football, basketball, and long jump star, the favorite for gold in the never held 1940 Olympics, but hadn't hit a lick on the UCLA baseball team. He also played some golf and tennis at a high level.

    The Dodgers had him play the easy position of first base in 1947 so errors wouldn't get him down. He later developed into a terrific second baseman.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @R.G. Camara


    Whether the amount of racial slurs hurled at him were far fewer and less vicious than reported — and I don’t disagree with that being a possibility — the kind of pressure put on Robinson from those cheering him on would’ve cracked most rookies, no matter what the color.
     
    Robinson had a reputation for being rather fierce on the field, like Ty Cobb before him. Andy Pafko got into a single fight in seventeen seasons in the National League. Is it any surprise it was with Robinson? You had to be a mean dude to get the courteous Pafko to put up his dukes.

    And that’s before we get to the palpable pressure cooker the Brooklyn fans would’ve put on him to finally get them over their Red Sox-like hump of never winning the big one but getting oh-so-close.
     
    Doris Kearns Goodwin, an intense Dodgers fan as a child, wrote that while everybody respected Robinson, the one they loved was Roy Campanella. Anyone interested in pre-LA Dodger history should read her memoir, whatever one may think of her other work. It gives a microscopic view of Bums fandom seven decades ago.

    Why Doris Kearns Goodwin Says Baseball Made Her A Better Historian


    You can see Pafko in this picture, to the right of the 315' mark, and, if you're really good, the hooky-playing nun who retrieved Bobby Thomson's home run. Check out Brian Biegel's book and/or documentary film about his hunt for that ball.

    https://d279m997dpfwgl.cloudfront.net/wp/2020/08/0828_oag_shot-heard-round-the-world-1000x806.jpg

    , @AceDeuce
    @R.G. Camara

    So the stress of people rooting for him and supporting him was a problem? Ohhh-kay....

    He had to deliver, like every player. A guy who is Whiter than an albino polar bear's splooge has to deliver. If he doesn't, bye bye.

    As far as Brooklyn fans wanting JR to get them a World Series championship, they lost five of the six WS Robinson was in with them, and he had a career WS batting avg. of .234, with a whopping two homers. In three of those Series, he posted BAs of .174, .182, and .188 (the .182 was when he "helped" win the 1955 WS).

    So he sure didn't deliver on the World Series titles.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

  246. @R.G. Camara
    @AceDeuce

    Rickey and the Dodgers made a very big deal about Robinson' breaking the barrier, promoting it to the moon (Rickey was trying to draw black fans in as well as get national media exposure), and many left-wing groups did as well to begin desegregation efforts. All that put roughly double or triple the pressure a big league rookie of the time would've faced (and yes, Robinson was older and more experienced than most rookies, but still, the big leagues were far beyond the bush Negro leagues).

    Whether the amount of racial slurs hurled at him were far fewer and less vicious than reported -- and I don't disagree with that being a possibility -- the kind of pressure put on Robinson from those cheering him on would've cracked most rookies, no matter what the color.

    And that's before we get to the palpable pressure cooker the Brooklyn fans would've put on him to finally get them over their Red Sox-like hump of never winning the big one but getting oh-so-close.

    An easy time breaking in Robinson did not have.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar, @AceDeuce

    And Robinson had really only been focusing on baseball since his mid 20s. At UCLA he’d been a football, basketball, and long jump star, the favorite for gold in the never held 1940 Olympics, but hadn’t hit a lick on the UCLA baseball team. He also played some golf and tennis at a high level.

    The Dodgers had him play the easy position of first base in 1947 so errors wouldn’t get him down. He later developed into a terrific second baseman.

  247. @Dieter Kief
    @Reg Cæsar

    The similarities are - they are real, man. I've never seen anything like that parallel since Jim and Lassie! - Or Hoss and his horse, ok. STUNNING! - I'll link that to Hailtoyou.wordpress.com - Hail has a great portrait of Robin DiAngelo online.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Nanny, originally a nickname for Ann(e), was applied to she-goats centuries ago, as was billy to males. We also have tom for male turkeys and cats, kit (Christopher) for baby foxes, jack (John) and jenny (Jane) for asses, hob (Robert) and jill for ferrets, jill and joey for kangaroos, and so on down the line. Dobbin (Robert) is, or was, a name traditionally given to horses, as is Polly (Mary) to parrots.

    Nannies are also governesses (hence “nanny state”), presumably from the same derivation, but whether this had any connection to goats…?

    Come to think of it, baby goats are kids— goats having the name long before humans– who are watched over by nannies. Why we looked to this creature, out of all those in the barnyard, to refer to our own offspring is worth looking into.

    Do Germans and other Europeans engage in such nonsense? Google Translate claims “nanny goat” is Kindermädchen Ziege. Somehow I doubt that.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Reg Cæsar

    Goats are friendly-looking. - As kids - and mothers are, so often.
    Goat-nanny I'd think would best be translated with Ziegenmutter.

    The Grimm's fairy tale Hänsel and Gretel is taking advantage of the similarity between - women and goats by putting a goat in the bed instead of grandma.

    (Very interesting post btw. - thanks again!)

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

  248. @R.G. Camara
    @AceDeuce

    Rickey and the Dodgers made a very big deal about Robinson' breaking the barrier, promoting it to the moon (Rickey was trying to draw black fans in as well as get national media exposure), and many left-wing groups did as well to begin desegregation efforts. All that put roughly double or triple the pressure a big league rookie of the time would've faced (and yes, Robinson was older and more experienced than most rookies, but still, the big leagues were far beyond the bush Negro leagues).

    Whether the amount of racial slurs hurled at him were far fewer and less vicious than reported -- and I don't disagree with that being a possibility -- the kind of pressure put on Robinson from those cheering him on would've cracked most rookies, no matter what the color.

    And that's before we get to the palpable pressure cooker the Brooklyn fans would've put on him to finally get them over their Red Sox-like hump of never winning the big one but getting oh-so-close.

    An easy time breaking in Robinson did not have.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar, @AceDeuce

    Whether the amount of racial slurs hurled at him were far fewer and less vicious than reported — and I don’t disagree with that being a possibility — the kind of pressure put on Robinson from those cheering him on would’ve cracked most rookies, no matter what the color.

    Robinson had a reputation for being rather fierce on the field, like Ty Cobb before him. Andy Pafko got into a single fight in seventeen seasons in the National League. Is it any surprise it was with Robinson? You had to be a mean dude to get the courteous Pafko to put up his dukes.

    And that’s before we get to the palpable pressure cooker the Brooklyn fans would’ve put on him to finally get them over their Red Sox-like hump of never winning the big one but getting oh-so-close.

    Doris Kearns Goodwin, an intense Dodgers fan as a child, wrote that while everybody respected Robinson, the one they loved was Roy Campanella. Anyone interested in pre-LA Dodger history should read her memoir, whatever one may think of her other work. It gives a microscopic view of Bums fandom seven decades ago.

    Why Doris Kearns Goodwin Says Baseball Made Her A Better Historian

    You can see Pafko in this picture, to the right of the 315′ mark, and, if you’re really good, the hooky-playing nun who retrieved Bobby Thomson’s home run. Check out Brian Biegel’s book and/or documentary film about his hunt for that ball.

  249. @Barnard
    @Jonathan Mason

    What I am reading is that they banned adderall which Biles takes for ADHD. She had been allowed to take it in the past and I believe she was on it when she competed in Rio. I don't see how taking something to improve concentration is any less performance enhancing than a sprinter taking steroids to improve speed.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I don’t see how taking something to improve concentration is any less performance enhancing than a sprinter taking steroids to improve speed.

    Concentrate, and you might.

  250. @R.G. Camara
    @AceDeuce

    Rickey and the Dodgers made a very big deal about Robinson' breaking the barrier, promoting it to the moon (Rickey was trying to draw black fans in as well as get national media exposure), and many left-wing groups did as well to begin desegregation efforts. All that put roughly double or triple the pressure a big league rookie of the time would've faced (and yes, Robinson was older and more experienced than most rookies, but still, the big leagues were far beyond the bush Negro leagues).

    Whether the amount of racial slurs hurled at him were far fewer and less vicious than reported -- and I don't disagree with that being a possibility -- the kind of pressure put on Robinson from those cheering him on would've cracked most rookies, no matter what the color.

    And that's before we get to the palpable pressure cooker the Brooklyn fans would've put on him to finally get them over their Red Sox-like hump of never winning the big one but getting oh-so-close.

    An easy time breaking in Robinson did not have.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar, @AceDeuce

    So the stress of people rooting for him and supporting him was a problem? Ohhh-kay….

    He had to deliver, like every player. A guy who is Whiter than an albino polar bear’s splooge has to deliver. If he doesn’t, bye bye.

    As far as Brooklyn fans wanting JR to get them a World Series championship, they lost five of the six WS Robinson was in with them, and he had a career WS batting avg. of .234, with a whopping two homers. In three of those Series, he posted BAs of .174, .182, and .188 (the .182 was when he “helped” win the 1955 WS).

    So he sure didn’t deliver on the World Series titles.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @AceDeuce


    So the stress of people rooting for him and supporting him was a problem? Ohhh-kay…
     
    Clearly, you've never witnessed a highly touted "bonus baby" rookie crashing and burning when shoved into the limelight. Vince Young, for example, could not handle the pressure of being a highly-touted, highly-anticipated, highly-cheered for quarterback in the NFL because, as such a player, all eyes were upon him and he was expected to deliver and be The Man.

    Young cracked badly, and his own mother complained to the newspapers that the fans shouldn't put so much pressure on her baby boy. Right then I knew he was done, if his mother felt the need to tell fans to back off.

    Or take the legions of NBA #1 draft picks who became what-ever-happened-tos.

    Hoopla and expectations are as pressure building as boos, if not more so. Most flame out. Robinson did not.

    Now take your ignorance of sports psychology and go hang out with Kwame Brown.
  251. @Anonymous
    Received seven perfect 10’s. Nadia Comăneci, the true GOAT.

    Nadia's Theme (Henry Mancini):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ttc9aCSRqEY

    Replies: @Anon

    The incredible grace.. my youngest is fourteen and looks just like that.. a moment in time but very moving. Thank you.

  252. Anonymous[377] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason
    This mental illness thing seems to be quite contagious.

    Those English soccer players who missed their penalty kicks did the right thing in taking a private jet to the Cayman Islands for a mental health break.

    Biles has said that there are more important things in life than sport. Precisely! It is not like she is a highly paid professional athlete or anything. She should just have fun jumping and running and tumbling, but not to the extent of making it an obsession.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Jonathan Mason, @PaceLaw, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    What she said, per Piers Morgan:

    Then Biles said something really extraordinary and illuminating: ‘I feel like I’m also not having as much fun. This Olympic Games, I wanted it to be for myself, but I came in and I felt like I was still doing it for other people. It hurts my heart that doing what I love has been kind of taken away from me to please other people.’

    • Thanks: Old Prude
  253. @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Paperback Writer


    Maybe she’s going through w/drawal:
     
    Just more proof they're all on drugs.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    Not Janet Evans!

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Paperback Writer

    Same energy as Phoebe Cates in Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

  254. @AceDeuce
    @R.G. Camara

    So the stress of people rooting for him and supporting him was a problem? Ohhh-kay....

    He had to deliver, like every player. A guy who is Whiter than an albino polar bear's splooge has to deliver. If he doesn't, bye bye.

    As far as Brooklyn fans wanting JR to get them a World Series championship, they lost five of the six WS Robinson was in with them, and he had a career WS batting avg. of .234, with a whopping two homers. In three of those Series, he posted BAs of .174, .182, and .188 (the .182 was when he "helped" win the 1955 WS).

    So he sure didn't deliver on the World Series titles.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    So the stress of people rooting for him and supporting him was a problem? Ohhh-kay…

    Clearly, you’ve never witnessed a highly touted “bonus baby” rookie crashing and burning when shoved into the limelight. Vince Young, for example, could not handle the pressure of being a highly-touted, highly-anticipated, highly-cheered for quarterback in the NFL because, as such a player, all eyes were upon him and he was expected to deliver and be The Man.

    Young cracked badly, and his own mother complained to the newspapers that the fans shouldn’t put so much pressure on her baby boy. Right then I knew he was done, if his mother felt the need to tell fans to back off.

    Or take the legions of NBA #1 draft picks who became what-ever-happened-tos.

    Hoopla and expectations are as pressure building as boos, if not more so. Most flame out. Robinson did not.

    Now take your ignorance of sports psychology and go hang out with Kwame Brown.

  255. @JimDandy
    @Steve Sailer

    As a Steve Sailer reader, it sounds to me like Collin is following a rigorous and scientifically-precise beta blocker regimen.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    It’s legal to take beta blockers against stage fright in classical music, so a lot do.

    It’s also legal in golf.

    • Agree: JimDandy
  256. @Reg Cæsar
    @Dieter Kief

    Nanny, originally a nickname for Ann(e), was applied to she-goats centuries ago, as was billy to males. We also have tom for male turkeys and cats, kit (Christopher) for baby foxes, jack (John) and jenny (Jane) for asses, hob (Robert) and jill for ferrets, jill and joey for kangaroos, and so on down the line. Dobbin (Robert) is, or was, a name traditionally given to horses, as is Polly (Mary) to parrots.

    Nannies are also governesses (hence "nanny state"), presumably from the same derivation, but whether this had any connection to goats...?

    Come to think of it, baby goats are kids-- goats having the name long before humans-- who are watched over by nannies. Why we looked to this creature, out of all those in the barnyard, to refer to our own offspring is worth looking into.

    Do Germans and other Europeans engage in such nonsense? Google Translate claims "nanny goat" is Kindermädchen Ziege. Somehow I doubt that.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    Goats are friendly-looking. – As kids – and mothers are, so often.
    Goat-nanny I’d think would best be translated with Ziegenmutter.

    The Grimm’s fairy tale Hänsel and Gretel is taking advantage of the similarity between – women and goats by putting a goat in the bed instead of grandma.

    (Very interesting post btw. – thanks again!)

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Dieter Kief

    My - not quite awake - head has played a trick on me - I did see the goat in bed in my (beloved) illustrated childhood-copy of the Grimm's fairy tales - but - - it is not there at all... - - - mee...

  257. @res
    @Jesse


    You’re missing the story here. The reason is that this was the first Olympics to ban Ritalin. She has ADHD. I can totally see that being devastating for her performance.
     
    Seems likely, but do you have any good sources for that? I am having trouble finding anything useful with my searches. Which is often a clue.

    As an example, this article showed up in a search, but seems to no longer be up. Here is an archive page.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20210422072304/https://japantoday.com/category/tokyo-2020-olympics/law-may-allow-olympic-athletes-to-bring-medical-stimulants-into-japan

    The article talks about possibly allowing Olympic athletes to bring stimulants into Japan. So what happened?

    Replies: @gandydancer

    Jesse is telling you something which appears to be untrue (” this was the first Olympics to ban Ritalin”) so I wouldn’t take anything else he says very seriously. That Biles was taking Ritalin was revealed years ago precisely because the list of athletes with Therapeutic Use Exemptions was hacked and she was on it. https://www.sportskeeda.com/gymnastics/explained-simone-biles-doping-controversy-therapeutic-use-exemption I’ve seen nothing to indicate that such exemptions have been comprehensively revoked.

    The Ritalin withdrawal theory is advanced here https://www.tellerreport.com/sports/2021-07-29-%22simone-could-have-broken-without-any-ritalin%22–durmanov-on-biles–problems--%22withdrawal-syndrome%22-and-american-gymnasts.r1wKOYskyt.html, but without, so far as I can see, any basis for that crucial element.

    I think I might have seen something about allowed dosages for some drugs being revised, but I wouldn’t recall if Ritalin was affected. If that affected Biles we would have heard about it by now. It’s too good an excuse. And there would have been a big fuss about it beforehand.

    • Replies: @res
    @gandydancer

    Thanks for that second link. A very interesting quote given much of the discussion of her confidence and things like the twisties.


    Does it help you not to get nervous at crucial moments?

    - Reduces the feeling of danger, completely removes from consciousness such a thing as self-doubt, and insecurity is a very valuable quality.

    It is this that includes a sense of self-preservation, helps a person to control himself.

    Those who take Ritalin have no sense of self-preservation at all.
     
    From you.

    If that affected Biles we would have heard about it by now. It’s too good an excuse. And there would have been a big fuss about it beforehand.
     
    That is an interesting take. Rather the opposite of my sense that the silence (e.g. no followup to the link I gave of an early discussion) is suspicious. Hard to know which is more correct. At least without the silence being broken.

    Consider the possibility that making Ritalin the center of this would not be good for its producer. The ADHD drug market in the US was $16.4 billion in 2018.
    https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/attention-deficit-hyperactivity-disorder-adhd-market

    Regarding this:

    Jesse is telling you something which appears to be untrue (” this was the first Olympics to ban Ritalin”) so I wouldn’t take anything else he says very seriously.
     
    I'm not sure I agree. The question is whether the therapeutic use exemptions are being handled differently in this Olympics. Do you know whether or not that is the case?

    The early concern was that the blanket ban on importing stimulants to Japan (my impression is this includes personal Ritalin, do you know for sure if that is the case?) would make this Olympics different by prohibiting stimulus use even for those with a therapeutic exemption. I have seen nothing about how this was resolved.

    Replies: @res

  258. Men relate to goats, simple as that.

  259. @Hi There
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    Steve’s use of “Black Fragility” is a direct call-and-response to the already established anti-White term “White Fragility
     
    ok, I fully support mocking phrases like "White Fragility".

    Replies: @gandydancer

    Cossack anti-fragility:

  260. @gandydancer
    @Dieter Kief


    ... So – what Anton fights is – the regressive part of left-wing ideas.
     
    Were you drunk when you wrote that post, or is that the best you can do at coherence?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    gandydancer, have you ever heard of the catch-phrase Dave Rubin coined about the left? – It goes like this: The Regressive Left. – See what I was talking about?

    btw. – I think that it is a rather inappropriate behavior from anonymi like you to make ad personam attacks of your kind.

  261. @Dieter Kief
    @Reg Cæsar

    Goats are friendly-looking. - As kids - and mothers are, so often.
    Goat-nanny I'd think would best be translated with Ziegenmutter.

    The Grimm's fairy tale Hänsel and Gretel is taking advantage of the similarity between - women and goats by putting a goat in the bed instead of grandma.

    (Very interesting post btw. - thanks again!)

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    My – not quite awake – head has played a trick on me – I did see the goat in bed in my (beloved) illustrated childhood-copy of the Grimm’s fairy tales – but – – it is not there at all… – – – mee…

  262. res says:
    @gandydancer
    @res

    Jesse is telling you something which appears to be untrue (" this was the first Olympics to ban Ritalin") so I wouldn't take anything else he says very seriously. That Biles was taking Ritalin was revealed years ago precisely because the list of athletes with Therapeutic Use Exemptions was hacked and she was on it. https://www.sportskeeda.com/gymnastics/explained-simone-biles-doping-controversy-therapeutic-use-exemption I've seen nothing to indicate that such exemptions have been comprehensively revoked.

    The Ritalin withdrawal theory is advanced here https://www.tellerreport.com/sports/2021-07-29-%22simone-could-have-broken-without-any-ritalin%22--durmanov-on-biles--problems--%22withdrawal-syndrome%22-and-american-gymnasts.r1wKOYskyt.html, but without, so far as I can see, any basis for that crucial element.

    I think I might have seen something about allowed dosages for some drugs being revised, but I wouldn't recall if Ritalin was affected. If that affected Biles we would have heard about it by now. It's too good an excuse. And there would have been a big fuss about it beforehand.

    Replies: @res

    Thanks for that second link. A very interesting quote given much of the discussion of her confidence and things like the twisties.

    Does it help you not to get nervous at crucial moments?

    – Reduces the feeling of danger, completely removes from consciousness such a thing as self-doubt, and insecurity is a very valuable quality.

    It is this that includes a sense of self-preservation, helps a person to control himself.

    Those who take Ritalin have no sense of self-preservation at all.

    From you.

    If that affected Biles we would have heard about it by now. It’s too good an excuse. And there would have been a big fuss about it beforehand.

    That is an interesting take. Rather the opposite of my sense that the silence (e.g. no followup to the link I gave of an early discussion) is suspicious. Hard to know which is more correct. At least without the silence being broken.

    Consider the possibility that making Ritalin the center of this would not be good for its producer. The ADHD drug market in the US was $16.4 billion in 2018.
    https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/attention-deficit-hyperactivity-disorder-adhd-market

    Regarding this:

    Jesse is telling you something which appears to be untrue (” this was the first Olympics to ban Ritalin”) so I wouldn’t take anything else he says very seriously.

    I’m not sure I agree. The question is whether the therapeutic use exemptions are being handled differently in this Olympics. Do you know whether or not that is the case?

    The early concern was that the blanket ban on importing stimulants to Japan (my impression is this includes personal Ritalin, do you know for sure if that is the case?) would make this Olympics different by prohibiting stimulus use even for those with a therapeutic exemption. I have seen nothing about how this was resolved.

    • Replies: @res
    @res


    The early concern was that the blanket ban on importing stimulants to Japan (my impression is this includes personal Ritalin, do you know for sure if that is the case?) would make this Olympics different by prohibiting stimulus use even for those with a therapeutic exemption. I have seen nothing about how this was resolved.
     
    This article has some useful information.
    https://www.insider.com/simone-biles-adhd-meds-banned-japan-impacting-performance-2021-7

    They indicate that Ritalin is classed as a psychotropic rather than a stimulant so the rules are less strict. This is their conclusion.

    If she filled out and submitted a Yakkan Shoumei, Biles was covered to continue taking Ritalin in Tokyo without fear of arrest. So while it's impossible to determine what has caused Biles' case of "the twisties," a lack of medication is almost certainly not to blame.
     
    They reference this Team USA document which refers specifically to Adderall (which is classed as a stimulant).
    https://www.teamusa.org/~/~/-/media/3A2F15237A8143B080166A69C025F2F3.ashx
  263. @Paperback Writer
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Not Janet Evans!

    https://www.wcspeakers.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/9958.jpg

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    Same energy as Phoebe Cates in Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

  264. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Steve Sailer

    Not females, but ... Definitely athleticism.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GFVI7dvPPU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBmy9JWyCS4

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Men gymnasts are astonishing, but they don’t get much attention paid to them. Are there any countries where guy gymnasts get more attention than the girl gymnasts?

    I guess people don’t take their masculinity seriously. I can recall that after the gymnastic competition in Atlanta in 1996 was over, they put on an unjudged TV gala where the champs did exhibition routines. They forced the men to do floor routines to music the way the women do in competition but the men never do. The first American guy who had to do his floor routine to music chose Booker T and the MG’s instrumental “Green Onions,” which is perhaps the least feminine song ever:

    • Replies: @Charon
    @Steve Sailer


    Booker T and the MG’s instrumental “Green Onions,” which is perhaps the least feminine song ever
     
    We would also have accepted:

    Thin Lizzy, The Boys Are Back in Town

    Led Zeppelin, Whole Lotta Love

    Black Sabbath, Iron Man

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Steve Sailer

    I don't have any stats, but from what I know, in Europe & Asia, from France, Hungary, Russia...to Japan, real gymnastics is pommel horse, still rings, parallel bars etc. With some exceptions (Comaneci), this is an area for manly men.

    Floor is where females rule. But it is not for real, adult women- unlike swimming- but mostly for girls, giving it all a pedo hue. Add different physiques of east Asian girls, you'll get a spectacle of true attainment of something girly.

    No one in his sane mind would force manly pommel horse champions to dance on the floor like a cartoon of a gay musical (not that there is ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0pPPkkT7GI

  265. @Steve Sailer
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Men gymnasts are astonishing, but they don't get much attention paid to them. Are there any countries where guy gymnasts get more attention than the girl gymnasts?

    I guess people don't take their masculinity seriously. I can recall that after the gymnastic competition in Atlanta in 1996 was over, they put on an unjudged TV gala where the champs did exhibition routines. They forced the men to do floor routines to music the way the women do in competition but the men never do. The first American guy who had to do his floor routine to music chose Booker T and the MG's instrumental "Green Onions," which is perhaps the least feminine song ever:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oox9bJaGJ8

    Replies: @Charon, @Bardon Kaldian

    Booker T and the MG’s instrumental “Green Onions,” which is perhaps the least feminine song ever

    We would also have accepted:

    Thin Lizzy, The Boys Are Back in Town

    Led Zeppelin, Whole Lotta Love

    Black Sabbath, Iron Man

  266. @Steve Sailer
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Men gymnasts are astonishing, but they don't get much attention paid to them. Are there any countries where guy gymnasts get more attention than the girl gymnasts?

    I guess people don't take their masculinity seriously. I can recall that after the gymnastic competition in Atlanta in 1996 was over, they put on an unjudged TV gala where the champs did exhibition routines. They forced the men to do floor routines to music the way the women do in competition but the men never do. The first American guy who had to do his floor routine to music chose Booker T and the MG's instrumental "Green Onions," which is perhaps the least feminine song ever:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oox9bJaGJ8

    Replies: @Charon, @Bardon Kaldian

    I don’t have any stats, but from what I know, in Europe & Asia, from France, Hungary, Russia…to Japan, real gymnastics is pommel horse, still rings, parallel bars etc. With some exceptions (Comaneci), this is an area for manly men.

    Floor is where females rule. But it is not for real, adult women- unlike swimming- but mostly for girls, giving it all a pedo hue. Add different physiques of east Asian girls, you’ll get a spectacle of true attainment of something girly.

    No one in his sane mind would force manly pommel horse champions to dance on the floor like a cartoon of a gay musical (not that there is …

  267. @res
    @gandydancer

    Thanks for that second link. A very interesting quote given much of the discussion of her confidence and things like the twisties.


    Does it help you not to get nervous at crucial moments?

    - Reduces the feeling of danger, completely removes from consciousness such a thing as self-doubt, and insecurity is a very valuable quality.

    It is this that includes a sense of self-preservation, helps a person to control himself.

    Those who take Ritalin have no sense of self-preservation at all.
     
    From you.

    If that affected Biles we would have heard about it by now. It’s too good an excuse. And there would have been a big fuss about it beforehand.
     
    That is an interesting take. Rather the opposite of my sense that the silence (e.g. no followup to the link I gave of an early discussion) is suspicious. Hard to know which is more correct. At least without the silence being broken.

    Consider the possibility that making Ritalin the center of this would not be good for its producer. The ADHD drug market in the US was $16.4 billion in 2018.
    https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/attention-deficit-hyperactivity-disorder-adhd-market

    Regarding this:

    Jesse is telling you something which appears to be untrue (” this was the first Olympics to ban Ritalin”) so I wouldn’t take anything else he says very seriously.
     
    I'm not sure I agree. The question is whether the therapeutic use exemptions are being handled differently in this Olympics. Do you know whether or not that is the case?

    The early concern was that the blanket ban on importing stimulants to Japan (my impression is this includes personal Ritalin, do you know for sure if that is the case?) would make this Olympics different by prohibiting stimulus use even for those with a therapeutic exemption. I have seen nothing about how this was resolved.

    Replies: @res

    The early concern was that the blanket ban on importing stimulants to Japan (my impression is this includes personal Ritalin, do you know for sure if that is the case?) would make this Olympics different by prohibiting stimulus use even for those with a therapeutic exemption. I have seen nothing about how this was resolved.

    This article has some useful information.
    https://www.insider.com/simone-biles-adhd-meds-banned-japan-impacting-performance-2021-7

    They indicate that Ritalin is classed as a psychotropic rather than a stimulant so the rules are less strict. This is their conclusion.

    If she filled out and submitted a Yakkan Shoumei, Biles was covered to continue taking Ritalin in Tokyo without fear of arrest. So while it’s impossible to determine what has caused Biles’ case of “the twisties,” a lack of medication is almost certainly not to blame.

    They reference this Team USA document which refers specifically to Adderall (which is classed as a stimulant).
    https://www.teamusa.org/~/~/-/media/3A2F15237A8143B080166A69C025F2F3.ashx

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