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From The Atlantic:

Self-censorship on Campus Is Bad for Science

Amid heightened tensions on college campuses, well-established scientific ideas are suddenly meeting with stiff political resistance.

MAY 28, 2019
Luana Maroja
Professor of biology at Williams College

I have taught evolution and genetics at Williams College for about a decade. For most of that time, the only complaints I got from students were about grades. But that all changed after Donald Trump’s election as president. At that moment, political tensions were running high on our campus. And well-established scientific ideas that I’d been teaching for years suddenly met with stiff ideological resistance.

The trouble began when we discussed the notion of heritability as it applies to human intelligence. (Heritability is the degree to which offspring genetically resemble their parents; the concept can apply not only to physical traits, but also to behavioral ones.) In a classroom discussion, I noted that researchers have measured a large average difference in IQ between the inhabitants of the United States and those of my home country, Brazil. I challenged the supposed intelligence differential between Americans and Brazilians. I asked students to think about the limitations of the data, which do not control for environmental differences, and explained that the raw numbers say nothing about whether observed differences are indeed “inborn”—that is, genetic.

There is, of course, a long history of charlatans who have cited dubious “science” as proof that certain racial and ethnic groups are genetically superior to others. My approach has been to teach students how to see through those efforts, by explaining how scientists understand heritability today, and by discussing how to interpret intelligence data—and how not to.

In class, though, some students argued instead that it is impossible to measure IQ in the first place, that IQ tests were invented to ostracize minority groups, or that IQ is not heritable at all.

Whom should I throw from the sleigh to the pursuing wolves next? Hey, what are you doing? Put me down!

None of these arguments is true. In fact, IQ can certainly be measured, and it has some predictive value. While the score may not reflect satisfaction in life, it does correlate with academic success. And while IQ is very highly influenced by environmental differences, it also has a substantial heritable component; about 50 percent of the variation in measured intelligence among individuals in a population is based on variation in their genes. Even so, some students, without any evidence, started to deny the existence of heritability as a biological phenomenon.

Similar biological denialism exists about nearly any observed difference between human groups, including those between males and females.

 
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  1. • Replies: @FrankT
    @MEH 0910

    Part of the problem is that eveyone is just so willing to throw eveyone to their unwoke right off the sleigh. For example, Coyne says:

    "Some differences between groups, of course, aren’t worth studying because either their results are uninteresting or because they’re designed to feed into stereotypes. My advisor Richard Lewontin used to use, as an example, the hypothesis that Jews have genes for longer noses than other groups. There may well be such genes, as there are genes for morphological differences between other groups, but who would care?

    As we see from Maroja’s discussion of IQ differences between Brazilians and Americans, she is no Charles Murray..."

    Really, so studying facial morphology is unworthy now because it might confirm that my lying eyes? Oh, but who would care, anyways? Well, obviously, your advisor and seemingly you.

    So these people that get thrown off seem ever ready to toss off those just behind them in wokeness.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @obwandiyag

  2. Ah, Madam Luana Maroja wants to practice “science” without succumbing to the strictures of Lysenko. Too bad. But hey, there are an infinite number of politically correct discoveries just waiting to be made!

    Get busy you biologists! Tell how nature always was, and will always be, politically correct!

  3. Historically the function of the university was to inculcate the students with the true religion. After a hiatus of a couple of hundred years, it is returning to the function and will begin the purging of “scientific” heretics.

    • Agree: Realist
  4. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:

    Christianity started this way. It was a ridiculous cult in Rome until the state elevated it to the national religion. When a cult takes charge all facts and reason have to get out of the way.
    The same thing is unfolding before our eyes today. The corporate state has decided to elevate the Sacred Black Bodies and Holy Vaginas cult into our national religion. The puny biology department doesn’t stand a chance.
    In hindsight the age of Reason will seem like a beautiful but brief interlude in the long stupid history of man.

    • Agree: dr kill
    • Replies: @Dr. X
    @anon


    The corporate state has decided to elevate the Sacred Black Bodies and Holy Vaginas cult into our national religion.
     
    Don't forget the Holy Anuses...
    , @Captain Tripps
    @anon

    No need to take a gratuitous swipe at Christianity. It has its faults; all belief systems do. But Rome was anything but a virtuous utopia of logic and reason before it became the state religion. Prior to that, you had many small pagan bizarro cults of varying influence. Rome at the time of Constantine was an absolute monarchy, where the Emperor was literally part God. Even at its republican apex (somewhere between the end of the Third Punic War and the Rise of Marius and Sulla) Rome was always just a place where might was right, the oligarchs - the Senate - ruled, and the strong did what they wanted while the weak suffered what they must.

    , @HA
    @anon

    >Christianity started this way. It was a ridiculous cult in Rome until the state elevated it to the national religion.

    Wrong on both counts. Despite the fact that in its early years "Christians were arrested, tortured, mutilated, burned, starved, and condemned to gladiatorial contests to amuse spectators", Christianity had nonetheless managed to become the dominant religion of the empire (op cit.) by the time Constantine came along. That doesn't make it any more or less true, but it was certainly not some "ridiculous cult in Rome" that only rose to prominence through state support.

    Next time, start with actual facts and build from there, as opposed to fabricating history to conform with your half-baked theories.

  5. well-established scientific ideas that I’d been teaching for years suddenly met with stiff ideological resistance

    Comrade, we have ways of making you believe.

  6. I’m kind of enjoying Progressive (that’s what all liberals want to be called now) professors at elite colleges being told to go to hell by their own students! It is such sweet schadenfreude…to think that they didn’t realize that all those Leftist ideas (multiculturalism/diversity is our strength blahblah) did not actually, sink into (years of indoctrination) the callow brains of teenagers, later college students, is really hilarious. You reap what you sow. We should start counting how many professors are complaining (and where) about this per month! hahaa

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Lagertha

    Yes, but in their defense, these students are getting radicalized in primary and secondary school, not university. I suspect they are so militant and doctrinaire because education majors/public school teachers are the absolute bottom of the education barrel.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Lagertha

    Yeah, the self-appointed moderate voice of reason tries mollify the new young radicals:


    I challenged the supposed intelligence differential between Americans and Brazilians. ... There is, of course, a long history of charlatans who have cited dubious “science” as proof that certain racial and ethnic groups are genetically superior to others. My approach has been to teach students how to see through those efforts, by explaining how scientists understand heritability today, and by discussing how to interpret intelligence data—and how not to.
     
    In other words, she's just selling a different (more moderate) theology. But what fun is theology if you're just going to be moderate about it? There's no market among the young and the restless for moderation, especially when life, the universe and everything are on the line.

    She may well retain her tenured position, but the marketshare/mindshare of mild boomer liberal science-ism is shrinking by the day.

    , @Xytil
    @Lagertha

    Yeah, I too think it's hilarious.
    These scumy places scam naive teenagers into mountains of debt. They are hotbeds of the most offensive lies ever forced upon normal and decent people. And now their beloved "scientific method" (aka common sense) is being challenged by their own BS to the point that universities are becoming untenable?
    L.M.F.A.O!
    R.O.F.L!
    It's gonna get worse.
    And it should.
    Academics are universally cowards who don't have the stomach to fight for principles, because these effeminate and over privileged parasites are too far invested in their prestige and status to take any risks.
    I hope they all fail.

  7. Marina is a liar

    https://mobile.twitter.com/rezaaslan/status/1121176913995636737

    Also Trumps will be impeached

    • Troll: IHTG
    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Tiny Duck


    I never said administrators should decide free speech on campus.
     
    Dammit....I just can't come out and say that free speech is over.....Even now, that would get too much negative press....How am I gonna phrase this....

    I said all universities have the right to decide their own mission and values and reject speakers who violate those values.
     
    Got it! See, it's not a question of free speech; it's all about mission and values.....








    https://mobile.twitter.com/rezaaslan/status/1121177572581134336

    Replies: @jon, @Dieter Kief

    , @El Dato
    @Tiny Duck

    Woah I went to http://rezaaslan.com/ and couldn't withstand the garish ooze of promotion.


    Iranian-American a scholar of religious studies, writer, and television host
     
    Okay.

    Reza:


    This article about a panel I did w/ ⁦@jbouie at ⁦@WilliamsCollege is based on a lie written by some ⁩Jr prof named Luana Maroja who should be proud that her lie has now been picked up by Breitbart.
     
    > Forgets to say what lie that is.
    > People who only exist because of free speech demanding less of free speech of the sort they don't like.
    > Getting into various trouble with the Hindus

    Williams College Students Demand Censorship on Campus Because ‘Free Speech Harms’

    It's Forced Listening which harms.


    Faculty at Williams College are seeking to adopt the “Chicago principles,” which free speech advocates consider “the gold standard of free speech philosophy,” according to a report by Inside Higher Ed. The proposal has reportedly sparked backlash among students, who are demanding that speech be curtailed on campus.

    Williams College associate professor Luana S. Maroja and other professors circulated the faculty petition calling on the school to adopt the Chicago principles after Maroja had attended a panel discussion on free expression last semester — an experience in which the professor had noted was “appalling.”

    The panel included former CNN host Reza Aslan, who made bizarre statements, such as claiming that administrators should dictate what can and cannot be said on college campuses. Professor Maroja noted that Aslan’s statements had baffled her, adding that students had even cheered in response to the former CNN host’s remarks.

    “This nonsense was met with intense student applause,” said Maroja, “It was appalling.”
     

    I don't need a video to know how this looked:

    Free Speech ‘Meltdown’

    “Students were just screaming that we were trying to ‘kill them,’” Maroja said.

    The students had put together and brought with them a lengthy statement, which has since morphed into a counterpetition, that argued the Chicago principles -- and more broadly, unfettered free speech -- harms minority students.
     

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    , @TWS
    @Tiny Duck

    Is she too dusky to be white? With the one drop rule in effect I think you're pushing too close to the edge criticising a maybe black woman.

  8. dug up this article about the professor:

    This scientist took on student activists who cheered for censorship. Now she’s refuting their ‘violence’ claims.
    https://www.thecollegefix.com/this-scientist-took-on-student-activists-who-cheered-for-censorship-now-shes-refuting-their-violence-claims/

    Here’s something she wrote for the school newspaper:

    Refuting claims of institutional violence: Analyzing evidence of racism at the College
    https://williamsrecord.com/2019/05/refuting-claims-of-institutional-violence-analyzing-evidence-of-racism-at-the-college/

    The way she listens to what they say, analyzes it, develops a simple research protocol to investigate it, finds that it’s false, and reports her findings in the school newspaper: That sort of stuff causes their heads to explode.

    Also, the fact that she is somewhat intersectional helps her: female, hispanic, although whitish in the Brazilian system of clinal race. She’s also very calm and fearless. It’s hard to get under her skin.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Anoln


    She's also very calm and fearless
     
    - and she looks like being at ease with herself. What else could you wish for - in those golden days, when America still a hope-filled nation, some fifty years ago, let's say.

    Now persons like her are a threat to the suffering young, locked in between student debt and no prospering job market at all. There just seems to be "no way out" for them other than A) hard scientific work and b) collecting pokemon points and try to be successful in this regressive way.

    The regressive left*** on its warrior trail into the Coddling of the American Mind***.

    *** Dave Rubin/ Greg Lukianoff/ Jonathan Haidt
    , @Andy
    @Anoln

    This is nitpicking, I know, but Brazilians are not really Hispanic, since they speak Portuguese, not Spanish. I suppose Latino would cover Brazilians as Portuguese is a language that descends from Latin.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Prester John, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Marco
    @Anoln

    She is not hispanic. She is latina, but not hispanic.
    We Brazilians are not hispanics.
    Portuguese != Spanish.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Anonymous
    @Anoln

    She's less Hispania, more Lusitania, and in a few ways at that. Chances of her becoming a big shot priestess in celebrity academia with airport books and viral TED talks are certainly de minimis

  9. OT: Report finds that black Students in Chicago are the most likely to attend schools with poor rankings:

    https://wgntv.com/2019/05/28/are-chicago-public-schools-making-the-grade/

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @t

    It's like the Guardian hardy perennial "why are the best state schools dominated by the middle classes?".

    , @Forbes
    @t

    I'd suggest that the school building doesn't/can't have a poor ranking--it's the students themselves who generate the poor ranking. As another has titled a book, "Bad Students, Not Bad Schools."

    , @BigDickNick
    @t

    Disabled children most likely to be on below average performing sports teams. Very unfair.

  10. Luana Maroja thinks the students have Good Intentions and only want to help women and ethnic minorities.

    Sadly, students do not seem to realize that their good intentions may lead them to resist learning scientific facts, and can even harm their own goal of helping women and ethnic minorities.

    She deserves everything she’s getting and more. These idiots will still be prattling on about Good Intentions as they’re being shoved against the wall. She doesn’t strike me as better than any POS in the Endless Caravans of Barbarian Southern Invaders. America would be better off without her. Send her back.

  11. Anon[347] • Disclaimer says:

    Aha! This explains her sudden burst of activity:

    Four Faculty Receive Tenure
    https://magazine.williams.edu/2016/spring/notice/four-faculty-receive-tenure/

    Four Williams faculty members have been promoted to associate professor with tenure, effective July 1. 2016.

    Luana Maroja, biology. An evolutionary biologist, Maroja studies the evolution of barriers to gene exchange. Her research seeks to understand how reproductive isolation evolves and how lineages eventually become distinct. She teaches courses on evolution and genetics, and she recently received a grant from the Hellman Family Foundation. She serves on the ad-hoc Committee on Student Course Survey Scores.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Anon

    Explain!

    Being associate professor with tenure is not a pass to slack off.

    (I'm not even sure it is an enviable position; "associate" probably means "doing the stuff that the real professor does not want to do". Like teaching or grading.)

    Replies: @68W58

    , @WowJustWow
    @Anon

    Tenure protects academic freedom from the hoi polloi grabbing brooms and calling shenanigans, not from the rest of academe. Although the academe-to-hoi-polloi meme transmission mechanisms are much faster and more efficient than it used to be, so the distinction is becoming less important.

  12. Whom should I throw from the sleigh to the pursuing wolves next? Hey, what are you doing? Put me down!

    That’s a fresh take on “under the bus”.

    Speaking of Brazil, the state of Pernambuco, capital Recife, has the same range of postal codes as do Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and perhaps a Dakota or two. So they must have the same IQs, or at least prospects, per Raj Chetty.

    Welcome to Des Moines:

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    Pernambuco is also the name of a wood from which all quality violin, viola and cello bows are made. (Bass bows can be made from osage orange or other woods.)

    The wood is CITES listed and scarce because the Brazilians chopped it all down like they did with the cuntwood, I mean Brazilian Rosewood (Dalbergia nigra) trees. Brazilian Rosewood is used in expensive guitars because that's what Gibson and Martin had cheap access to so it must be better in the minds of vintage guitar cunts.

    Both Brazilian Rosewood and Pernambuco trees will grow elsewhere but no one does.

    However Brazilian Rosewood trees grow very slowly and will not yield usable guitar wood in one human lifetime. Really useful trees are 200 to 400 years old. Pernambuco can be planted and yield usable bow wood in 30 years.

    I asked a bowmaker the logical question, why not grow the pernambuco trees in other locales? He seemed to feel that it would be wrong to do so because the Brazilians would not profit from "their" wood. I left unsaid the idea that they were too fucking stupid to properly manage their assets and that no plant had a moral claim on being only grown in one place.

    Brazil first burned huge quantities of its exotic woods to run buses in gasogenios, and then bulldozed much of the rest to make pasture for cow profits, or ruined much of the lumber by insisting that it be made into finished product in Brazil where the humidity made drying difficult and the lack of skilled workers-Brazilians can not make decent guitars domestically, see Del Vecchio, and other examples, because they are fuckups and because you can't import decent tools-the same applies to many other trades. The only Brazilian products worth anything are things made under tight German or other European supervision.

    By the time Brazil gets its shit together composite bows will have replaced pernambuco ones entirely except for amateur Baroque period correct ensembles and bluegrass fiddlers, who are not exactly the fussiest but worship whatever Bill Monroe's crew used.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar, @PV van der Byl

  13. What is the over/under on the number of days before Prof. Maroja and/or the editors of the Atlantic have to apologize and retract this piece? Two? Three?

  14. For a lady prof in the sciences, not bad….

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @syonredux

    I mean, sure, and while we're at it--for a German lady shotputter, not bad....

    https://www.iaaf.org/news/news/a-snap-shot-of-olympic-history-women

    , @R.G. Camara
    @syonredux

    It may explain how she's risen so far in "science" to teach at a prestigious college in the U.S.

    It also might explain how unprepared she will be for the pushback that will follow. Likely most of her career has been a wide-berth free pass/pat on the back/you go girl! for her and all her ideas, so any resistance to her argument will bemuse and confuse her, and the ferocity of the resistance to her argument will frighten her back into line. Especially once she got into the U.S.

    Few people can withstand the full bore of Leftist Religious Condemnation, and of that group, almost none are female.

    P.S. She looks like one of those female scientists you'll see overquoted and over-interviewed in NOVA episodes. If she gets back on the reservation and hugs it out with Skip Gates she be a regular when they do their biology-based episodes.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Paleo Liberal
    @syonredux

    I had some rather attractive chemistry professors in college. Smart as heck, too.

    There are plenty of attractive female scientists. The girl who was homecoming queen and head cheerleader at my high school is now a member of the National Academy of Sciences.

    And some of the female grad students I knew in grad school were rather attractive.

    In the old days Cal Tech had a reputation as being the place where the female post docs were both brilliant and hot as heck. There is a great bit in Joseph Wambaugh’s novel Delta Star when a good looking young cop finds himself at a party with hot post docs at Cal Tech, and he fails miserably at his attempts to pick some of them up.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @jon, @YetAnotherAnon, @L Woods, @Anonymous

    , @Sean
    @syonredux


    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/making-sense-of-robert-e-lee-85017563/

    In his dashing (if sometimes depressive) antebellum prime, he may have been the most beautiful person in America, a sort of precursorcross between Cary Grant and Randolph Scott.

     

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @syonredux

    Carmelita-ish enough for me!

    , @slumber_j
    @syonredux

    She somewhat resembles Olivia Williams, who played the teacher/crush in Rushmore.

    From Olivia Williams's Wikipedia entry, weirdly:


    After filming The Postman, she spent time in Bolivia studying spectacled bears in the rainforest.
     
  15. Time will tell, but I'[d bet she just did a Larry Summers on herself.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @PiltdownMan

    She’s too cute. Never underestimate the power of the White Knight.

    Name one hottie that has ever been Watsoned from a good job.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Felix Krull, @R.G. Camara, @Anon, @snorlax, @anonymous

  16. I wouldn’t be surprised is the next target of the identitarian left is evolution itself. The blank slate view they espouse is incompatible with evolution and genetics

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @Andy


    I wouldn’t be surprised is the next target of the identitarian left is evolution itself. The blank slate view they espouse is incompatible with evolution and genetics
     
    Actually, it is the IQists who espouse a blank slate ideology. IQism and geneticism and HBDism all proceed from philosophical antecedents which are quite Lockean in nature, and would be seen to be so if their adherents would ever bring them clearly into consciousness, but they don't.

    This is rather easy to demonstrate in the case of IQ. Suppose we take the claims of the HBDers at face value and stipulate that Blacks have an average IQ of 85. Even with that being the case, the much larger absolute size of the White population means that the left tail of its own IQ distribution contains more 85 IQ people than the entire Black population can boast of, yet you never hear the IQists complaining about them. This means, by their own lights, that the bad Black behavior which they abhor (assuming, again, that such is real and demonstrable and characteristic of Blacks and not of low IQ Whites, which were it not the case would imply that the IQists are either not observing correctly or are employing a double standard) must be due to something other than IQ---either "nurture" (which they scoff at) or some other essential factor of race that lies beneath its physical manifestation.

    Yet the so-called "race realists," who are quick to bewail a deracinated culture all the livelong day, are perfectly ready to accept a deracinated intelligence as the sole arbiter of civilizational worth. Having already rejected nurture out of hand, and essentialism being too metaphysical for their limited grasp, they are constrained to fall back upon the hobgoblin of IQ itself, the flickering movement of a content-free intellect, the pure Lockean abstracta---the blank slate. They may try to get around this difficulty by introducing whimsical notions like "time preference" and r/K theory, but that is just recapitulating the problem and bringing in essentialism by the backdoor.

    For if their really exists such a thing as race (and I believe that there does) then it has as little to do with IQ as it does with skin color. Let there be no talk here of genes, and especially not of that abominably false distinction between genotype and phenotype. The DNA in a person is still "phenotype"; it is every bit as physical as the rest of him is, i.e. it is part of the phenomenon. There is only soul and body, matter and form; there is no third possibility. Everything not in the one must be in the other.

    Let the Left attack evolution and they would only be conferring a boon upon us. Getting rid of that system of superficial causality is something that the Alt-Right should have done for itself a long time ago. Yet it appears, by the tenacious manner in which they cling to it, that the race realists are more keen to defend Darwinism (which actually undermines their own position) than to defend the truth about race, which requires essentialism in order to be articulated coherently. The cause of this confusion is something about which I'm not going to speculate here, but I will say that the whole project will go nowhere as long as it is planted firmly in the fairyland of HBD.

    Replies: @obwandiyag, @Jack D, @peterike, @Autochthon, @banopus

    , @Federalist
    @Andy

    They will be the new creationists.
    It's just that the Creator will have to be a transgender, LGBetc., person of color,

  17. God speed, Dr. Maroja.

    FYI She holds a PhD from Cornell, but did her undergrad and masters in Brazil, so perhaps PC wasn’t beaten into her.

    Also, a common criticism of conservatives by liberals is that they are science deniers, but liberals are perfectly happy to deny science when it suits them.

  18. Someone needs to ask these students: If I.Q. is not inherited, then how do they explain why Ivy League donors to sperm banks are so sought after?

    If these kids really feel that way, when they get married someday and some husbands prove to be infertile, the wives should just have sex with the town drunks and/or small time crooks since genetics matter little.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Days of Broken Arrows

    There's a good chance these students already have town drunk/ small time crook genes overrepresented in their DNA.

    , @bomag
    @Days of Broken Arrows


    just have sex with [whatever] since genetics matter little
     
    Aren't we kind-of there now?
  19. About DAMN TIME an actual biologist questioned the radical egalitarian, science-denialist P.C. zeitgeist! OF COURSE intelligence is heritable — just look at some poor kid with Down’s. He didn’t get that way due to bad schooling!

    But this is just a baby step. Biologists need to start asserting the following fundamental truths:

    -race is not a “social construct” — members of different races can be identified by DNA
    -homosexuality contradicts the theory of evolution and sex selection
    -there are only two genders, identifiable by DNA — “non-binary,” “transgender,” and “gender fluid” theories are 100% quackery and fake science
    -a fetus is not “a woman’s body,” but a distinct and separate being from the mother with different DNA
    -discrete population groups (i.e., races) evolved to have different characteristics due to differing breeding patterns. This is Evolutionary Biology 101 and common sense to any dog, horse, rabbit or cattle breeder.

    People actually knew most of this between 50 and 100 years ago but biologists and natural scientists have been cowed into silence for too long by the Red Guards of academia and the (((media)))…

    • Agree: Digital Samizdat
  20. Here’s the only video that I have been able to find of her speaking. There is something off about her, beyond the Portuguese accent. She almost sounds retarded. But she obviously isn’t: her written work is very literate and organized, and she’s a tenured professor, and retarded people can only become tenured professors in grievance studies departments, not STEM.

    She comes off like she is trying to do a Robert De Niro imitation, but isn’t very good at it. She speaks from 02:40:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=258&v=iCVTHYgYshQ

    She explains that she grew up in a family of communists who were exiled or disappeared during the authoritarian military dictatorship from the sixties through the eighties in Brazil. So she’s touchy about free speech.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Anoln


    There is something off about her, beyond the Portuguese accent. She almost sounds retarded. But she obviously isn’t ...
     
    Very much the same speech pattern as Temple Grandin; so I'd guess she's a bit autistic, which probably also explains why she doesn't have much patience for those mouthing political niceties.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter

    , @Daniel H
    @Anoln

    There is something off about her, beyond the Portuguese accent. She almost sounds retarded.


    I know a lot of Brazilians, and from her cadence, pronunciation, accent she sounds like the real deal. She appears to be an intelligent young women (well, 40s is still young, right?) who came to English relatively late in life. She probably only really started studying English when she went up to Cornell to get her Ph.D. Good for her. Williams should be proud of her and back her to the hilt.

    Replies: @ic1000

    , @Jack D
    @Anoln

    Her accent is normal for a Brazilian speaking English. You would sound retarded if you tried to speak Portuguese.

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex

  21. “…He was starting to get pissed off about the world’s stupid obsession with Brazil. What was so great about Brazil? As far as he knew, Brazil was a shithole full of morons obsessed with soccer and Formula One. It was the ne plus ultra of violence, corruption and misery. If ever a country were loathsome, that country, specifically, was Brazil.”

    -fr. Houellebecq’s The Elementary Particles

    • Agree: Tusk
  22. It’s well established that not only IQ but a wide range of personality traits are heritable to a significant degree. This raises the question: since the effects of genes are physical, what are the physical properties which influence differences in personality? I’m sure we don’t know the complete answer to this, but how much do we know?

  23. Lot says:

    “Whom should I throw from the sleigh to the pursuing wolves next? Hey, what are you doing? Put me down!”

    That’s a perfect summation of the old left appeasers of the woke mobs.

    “Put me down!” said Bernie as his mic was grabbed and a 6-2 ladyman dragged him away.

    • Agree: ic1000
  24. @PiltdownMan
    Time will tell, but I'[d bet she just did a Larry Summers on herself.

    Replies: @Lot

    She’s too cute. Never underestimate the power of the White Knight.

    Name one hottie that has ever been Watsoned from a good job.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Lot

    From a historical perspective, there simply have not yet been enough boba fide "hotties" in bona fide "good jobs" in the age of bona fide "Watsoning" to make up a reasonable sample for analysis.

    Also, she's barely a 5 now (what on Earth is your conception of hottie?). Put on a few more years and a few more pounds, and replace that young-gal smile with a basic-b snarl, and then we can compare notes.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anon

    , @Felix Krull
    @Lot

    Name one hottie that has ever been Watsoned from a good job.

    Marie Antoinette.

    , @R.G. Camara
    @Lot

    Except she's going up against the fat and uglier black/less white women of the Left. She's far too good-looking and light-skinned to have as many Pokemon points as them, though her "Brazillianess" (I don't know if it will count as Hispanic in totally up the points) will give her some shield.

    , @Anon
    @Lot


    She’s too cute. Never underestimate the power of the White Knight.

    Name one hottie that has ever been Watsoned from a good job.
     
    But her voice ...

    Replies: @Romanian

    , @snorlax
    @Lot

    Justine Sacco of #HasJustineLandedYet

    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/571687441792434176/37ZFFb8k.jpeg

    https://userscontent2.emaze.com/images/86d6b35c-68da-4de7-9d0e-4da854e9271c/c172f28438953e2284dad126e696f57a.jpg

    Replies: @eah, @Moses

    , @anonymous
    @Lot

    Megyn Kelly was kicked off of the Today Show or something like that for saying that people should be able to wear ethnic costumes for Halloween.

    Replies: @Lot

  25. I used to know a history professor who frequently commented that IQ tests don’t measure anything. After having heard this one time too many, I asked him if he really believed that.

    I think this was the first time anyone had ever bothered to question his assertion, and the conversation just fell off a cliff. No response at all.

    On a different note. “Brazil is the country of the future. And always will be.”

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @black sea


    “Brazil is the country of the future. And always will be.”
     
    At the rate this young lady is going, it's going to be in her future too, as well as in her past.
  26. @Lot
    @PiltdownMan

    She’s too cute. Never underestimate the power of the White Knight.

    Name one hottie that has ever been Watsoned from a good job.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Felix Krull, @R.G. Camara, @Anon, @snorlax, @anonymous

    From a historical perspective, there simply have not yet been enough boba fide “hotties” in bona fide “good jobs” in the age of bona fide “Watsoning” to make up a reasonable sample for analysis.

    Also, she’s barely a 5 now (what on Earth is your conception of hottie?). Put on a few more years and a few more pounds, and replace that young-gal smile with a basic-b snarl, and then we can compare notes.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    Also, she’s barely a 5 now (what on Earth is your conception of hottie?). Put on a few more years and a few more pounds, and replace that young-gal smile with a basic-b snarl, and then we can compare notes.
     
    She's contextually hot. "Professor hot."

    It's similar to how the chick in the first row of the second violins is "orchestra hot," unlike the concert mistress or the second oboe.
    , @Anon
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Sometimes the outdoorsy types age better than the hothouse orchids. And you don't have to worry about looking at a weird botoxy plastic surgery mess -- and paying for it.

    At any rate, the golden rule is, "Look at the mother." Look very closely at the mother.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal, @Jack D, @Autochthon, @Autochthon

  27. @Lot
    @PiltdownMan

    She’s too cute. Never underestimate the power of the White Knight.

    Name one hottie that has ever been Watsoned from a good job.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Felix Krull, @R.G. Camara, @Anon, @snorlax, @anonymous

    Name one hottie that has ever been Watsoned from a good job.

    Marie Antoinette.

  28. @syonredux
    For a lady prof in the sciences, not bad....

    https://magazine.williams.edu/files/2016/02/LuanaMajora_30.jpg

    Replies: @JimDandy, @R.G. Camara, @Paleo Liberal, @Sean, @The Wild Geese Howard, @slumber_j

    I mean, sure, and while we’re at it–for a German lady shotputter, not bad….

    https://www.iaaf.org/news/news/a-snap-shot-of-olympic-history-women

  29. Bolsonaro already reducing the prison population

    55 killed in Brazilian prison riots

  30. @Lot
    @PiltdownMan

    She’s too cute. Never underestimate the power of the White Knight.

    Name one hottie that has ever been Watsoned from a good job.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Felix Krull, @R.G. Camara, @Anon, @snorlax, @anonymous

    Except she’s going up against the fat and uglier black/less white women of the Left. She’s far too good-looking and light-skinned to have as many Pokemon points as them, though her “Brazillianess” (I don’t know if it will count as Hispanic in totally up the points) will give her some shield.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
  31. Anon[347] • Disclaimer says:

    EC Comics — Haunt of Fear #13 — Wolf Bait.

    The snarling, snapping grey-deaths leap up around the sleigh! One of them gashes the young officer’s face.

    There is a way! The meat stopped them! One of us could stop them! It’s only a few miles more.

    You’re mad Ivan!

    He’s right! It’s one … or all!

    Who? Who will go?

    It takes only a split second to make the decision. The people in the sleigh, like the animals outside, spring upon their victim … lift the figure … and toss it to the howling shadows.

    EEAAAAAAAAHHHH!

    And while the pack rips and tears at the sacrificed one, the sleigh speeds on toward the town … and safety.


    [Five more pages]

    Full comic here:

    https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/435654-anyone-remember-this-story/

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Anon

    Joseph Keppler used the meme in 1884 in a famous cartoon in the satirical magazine Puck.

    https://i.imgur.com/mPDEH9a.jpg

    Replies: @Graham

    , @the one they call Desanex
    @Anon

    Drawn by the excellent Jack Davis.
    http://www.americanartarchives.com/davis,jack.htm

  32. @syonredux
    For a lady prof in the sciences, not bad....

    https://magazine.williams.edu/files/2016/02/LuanaMajora_30.jpg

    Replies: @JimDandy, @R.G. Camara, @Paleo Liberal, @Sean, @The Wild Geese Howard, @slumber_j

    It may explain how she’s risen so far in “science” to teach at a prestigious college in the U.S.

    It also might explain how unprepared she will be for the pushback that will follow. Likely most of her career has been a wide-berth free pass/pat on the back/you go girl! for her and all her ideas, so any resistance to her argument will bemuse and confuse her, and the ferocity of the resistance to her argument will frighten her back into line. Especially once she got into the U.S.

    Few people can withstand the full bore of Leftist Religious Condemnation, and of that group, almost none are female.

    P.S. She looks like one of those female scientists you’ll see overquoted and over-interviewed in NOVA episodes. If she gets back on the reservation and hugs it out with Skip Gates she be a regular when they do their biology-based episodes.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @R.G. Camara

    You have zero evidence for what you are saying. She appears to be a real scientist and a person with a lot of character. Maybe she won't be able to withstand the pressure but her parents withstood actual torture by the Brazilian dictatorship so I think she is equipped to take on a bunch of American SJWs who are mostly hot air.

    Here is the rare academic who is brave enough to say and do the right thing and you write her off preemptively. With friends like you, who needs enemies?

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

  33. It’s not possible to come up with a evolutionary model for how the human species became smarter than the apes unless:

    1) Intelligence is a heritable trait.
    2) It confers a Darwinian advantage on those who have it.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Anon

    Evolution is all racist honky sheeeit so ice devils can call black people apes!

    , @Jack D
    @Anon

    Stop confusing us with your white man's tricknology. You are just using it to rationalize your racism and this makes us feel unsafe.

  34. @Lot
    @PiltdownMan

    She’s too cute. Never underestimate the power of the White Knight.

    Name one hottie that has ever been Watsoned from a good job.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Felix Krull, @R.G. Camara, @Anon, @snorlax, @anonymous

    She’s too cute. Never underestimate the power of the White Knight.

    Name one hottie that has ever been Watsoned from a good job.

    But her voice …

    • Replies: @Romanian
    @Anon

    She could have a pretty hot, if deeper, voice speaking in Portuguese. It's my observation that, even when the accents themselves could be sexy, some people's voices don't hold up very well when trying to speak another language with the inflections of their maternal language. No matter how functionally fluent they are. I lack the vocabulary to explain how Portuguese strikes me as a much deeper sounding language than Spanish.

  35. Anon[309] • Disclaimer says:

    She got her BS and MS in Brazil. I presume they fed their students less SJW nonsense there. She’s also Chair of the Biochem department, so it would take a dean or the college prexy to oust her, and she’s in the position to make life rough for her colleagues in her department if they try to screw her over.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anon

    An often observed paradox is that in places that are the LEAST woke ( Brazil, Iran, Romania, etc.) universities tend to graduate a lot of women in hard STEM fields (math,biochemistry, etc.) while in the woke paradises of the US and Western Europe the women take up womyn's studies and complain about the fact that there are not more women in STEM fields.

    Replies: @Romanian

    , @Anon
    @Anon

    I suspect that colleges in Brazil, much like those in Europe, teach their students only what is needed for their future job (in this case, chemistry and biology) rather than generic high school "maths" (arithmetics, really) and "writing" (equivalent to sixth grade composition in UK). Rather than being drilled into "? + 3 = 5", "write 2,000 words on your last holiday trip", or "argue for 5 minutes that BN are precious Bodies", she developed these skills in secondary and high school. Similar to the majority of the country, who didn't go to college, got herself informaton from wherever she wanted, and built her political views in her spare time.

    For better or worse, the Komsomol meetings did not require the "? + 3 = 5" and "write 2,000 words on your last holiday trip" parts, Soviet high schools being able to prepare their students at an younger age.

    Also, I suspect Maroja was tested on biology and chemistry even to start at the college. It's very likely her class did not include any athletes. Her school's coaches could not do anything to get any idiots admitted. Whom would Brazilian college teach "? + 3 = 5" and civics, if everyone went past that before growing pubes?

  36. Anon[347] • Disclaimer says:

    A concise history of iSteve Russian sleigh references

    JANUARY 17, 2019 – Is the NYT Gearing Up to Watson Geneticist David Reich Too?

    … Russians peasants out of his sleigh ideologically to save his operation…

    JULY 24, 2018 – NYT: Beware! “Members of the ‘Human Biodiversity Movement’ Enthusiastically Tweet and Blog”

    …. Similarly, if you see a sleigh full of Russian peasants being… of the back of the sleigh and is devoured by the… the other peasants in the sleigh time to get away, you…

    AUGUST 16, 2018 – Did the Royal Society Throw Hobbes from the Russian Sleigh?

    A reader writes: You might get a kick out of this passage from Noel Malcolm’s Aspects of Hobbes (2002), pp. 22-23: “Since Hobbes had, by the late 1650s, acquired the enmity of three leading scientists, it is not surprising that there was some reluctance to…

    MARCH 23, 2018 – Reich in NYT: “How Genetics Is Changing Our Understanding of ‘Race’”

    … set of Russians in a sleigh pursued by hungry wolves across… of Russians out of the sleigh. To understand why it is…

    MAY 19, 2017 – More Responses to Vox Attack on Charles Murray

    … tactic that I call Siberian-sleigh-pursued-by-wolves. The idea… throw one person in your sleigh out for the wolves to…

    DECEMBER 1, 2002 – Republicans Are Now Hoping Against Hope That Just…

    … tossed out of the sleigh (the legendary Russian sleigh being chased by…

    OCTOBER 12, 2012 – “How Deep Are the Roots of Economic Development?”

    … the Russian peasants in a sleigh pursued by wolves who periodically…

    JUNE 8, 2005 – Now We Know Why Garance Franke-Ruta Smeared Me Last Year: So She Could Steal My Ideas Without Attribution!

    … honest than themselves from the sleigh. But I wasn’t devious enough…

    DECEMBER 24, 2004 – The American Prospect Can’t Stand the Heat and Wants Everybody Else to Get Out of the Kitchen:

    … are closing in on the sleigh, throw somebody even more politically…

    DECEMBER 1, 2002 – Anita Hill All Over Again: The Lott Imbroglio…

    … the Russian Peasants in the Sleigh strategy of occasionally tossing one…

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Anon

    Thanks.

    Readers might also enjoy:

    http://afflictor.com/2013/07/16/old-print-article-wolves-kill-bridal-party-new-york-times-1911/

    https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/7033/did-travelers-by-troika-throw-passengers-before-the-wolves-to-save-others

    , @Dieter Kief
    @Anon

    Thanks for keeping track of those enlightening and at times even funny Steve-Sailer-nightmares!

    , @Captain Tripps
    @Anon

    If it ain't broke, don't fix it...

    , @obwandiyag
    @Anon

    Not the only crap he repeats over and over and over again.

    What a boring life. Even if you get paid for it. Writing the same boring crap over and over again.

    Better to be a ditch-digger. At least it's honest.

    , @JMcG
    @Anon

    Wasn’t there a “throw momma from the sleigh” scene in one of the Flashman books? I always thought that’s where the reference came from. I’m entirely uneducated in Russian literature though.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  37. Any guesses when Biology/Genetics will go on the offensive? 2026?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Kronos

    They’ve never not been. Snobbery finds its rivals beneath notice until forced to take notice. So far the only rivals they admit are on the right. No adversaries to the Left contains multiple layers of meaning.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  38. Williams plans to revise its policies after a faculty petition to adopt free speech guidelines enraged student activists.

    April 23, 2019

    …A faculty petition at Williams College to adopt the Chicago principles, which many free speech advocates consider the gold standard of free speech philosophy, has divided the campus and pushed administrators to review the college’s policies.

    Williams is in “meltdown,” said Luana S. Maroja, an associate professor of biology and one of the faculty members who led the charge for the college to endorse the Chicago principles, known formally as the University of Chicago’s “Report of the Committee on Freedom of Expression…”

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @PiltdownMan


    Williams plans to revise its policies after a faculty petition to adopt free speech guidelines enraged student activists.
     
    It's pathetic that colleges cave to "enraged student activists".

    If there's a group that does not represent any significant demographic "enraged student actvists" is pretty much it. They certainly do not represent any significant tranche of the student body. In fact, a majority of students on most campuses would love it if they would just go away.

    Yet, colleges often pander to these nimrods. One has to suspect that when they do, it is because college adminstrative staff want to pander to the nimrods.

    Replies: @Kronos

  39. @syonredux
    For a lady prof in the sciences, not bad....

    https://magazine.williams.edu/files/2016/02/LuanaMajora_30.jpg

    Replies: @JimDandy, @R.G. Camara, @Paleo Liberal, @Sean, @The Wild Geese Howard, @slumber_j

    I had some rather attractive chemistry professors in college. Smart as heck, too.

    There are plenty of attractive female scientists. The girl who was homecoming queen and head cheerleader at my high school is now a member of the National Academy of Sciences.

    And some of the female grad students I knew in grad school were rather attractive.

    In the old days Cal Tech had a reputation as being the place where the female post docs were both brilliant and hot as heck. There is a great bit in Joseph Wambaugh’s novel Delta Star when a good looking young cop finds himself at a party with hot post docs at Cal Tech, and he fails miserably at his attempts to pick some of them up.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Paleo Liberal


    Smart as heck... hot as heck
     
    If you are using these phrases unironically, it is difficult to take anything else you say seriously.
    , @jon
    @Paleo Liberal


    In the old days Cal Tech had a reputation as being the place where the female post docs were both brilliant and hot as heck.

     

    Apparently, times have changed:
    http://www.cpa.caltech.edu/

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Paleo Liberal

    UK medical students (more than 50% female at present) are pretty bright, not an unattractive bunch, and I've seen some lovely lady doctors.

    The UK TV show "University Challenge", one of the few things I watch, is an interesting place to study the brains/beauty intersection in both males and females at the top end of the brains spectrum. In males the nerds outnumber the Chadly types maybe 3 to 1, it's more like 50/50 between nerdettes and Stacys.

    Here's the Oxford medical student and classic English rose Emma Johnson, who set viewers tweeting a lot in 2017.

    https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article10067643.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/University-Challenge.jpg

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/20/590x/secondary/Emma-Johnson-872001.jpg

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Xytil, @Jack D

    , @L Woods
    @Paleo Liberal

    Cool story bro

    , @Anonymous
    @Paleo Liberal

    "The girl who was homecoming queen and head cheerleader at my high school is now a member of the National Academy of Sciences."

    There are plenty of women who don't belong in the NAS. The push for "diversity" has been ongoing for decades and is now accelerating even faster. A relative of mine who's a member of the NAS has personally seen women agitating for unqualified women to be elected. The NAS has recently been pushing changes that will fully destroy the meritocracy of the institution, much like the push for "diversity" in the STEM fields will destroy the quality of science.

    As for looks, I know a professor at one of the top Ivy business schools and she was a real hottie when she was younger. Now she's a never married, middle aged, fat, ugly, SJW cat lady. Bossy as heck.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  40. @syonredux
    For a lady prof in the sciences, not bad....

    https://magazine.williams.edu/files/2016/02/LuanaMajora_30.jpg

    Replies: @JimDandy, @R.G. Camara, @Paleo Liberal, @Sean, @The Wild Geese Howard, @slumber_j

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/making-sense-of-robert-e-lee-85017563/

    In his dashing (if sometimes depressive) antebellum prime, he may have been the most beautiful person in America, a sort of precursorcross between Cary Grant and Randolph Scott.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @Sean

    Where are the pretty boy pics? There's just a painting of his middle-aged, double-chinned father, and a lot of words. What a tease!

    Replies: @Sean

  41. @PiltdownMan
    Williams plans to revise its policies after a faculty petition to adopt free speech guidelines enraged student activists.

    April 23, 2019

    ...A faculty petition at Williams College to adopt the Chicago principles, which many free speech advocates consider the gold standard of free speech philosophy, has divided the campus and pushed administrators to review the college's policies.

    Williams is in “meltdown,” said Luana S. Maroja, an associate professor of biology and one of the faculty members who led the charge for the college to endorse the Chicago principles, known formally as the University of Chicago’s “Report of the Committee on Freedom of Expression...”
     

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Williams plans to revise its policies after a faculty petition to adopt free speech guidelines enraged student activists.

    It’s pathetic that colleges cave to “enraged student activists”.

    If there’s a group that does not represent any significant demographic “enraged student actvists” is pretty much it. They certainly do not represent any significant tranche of the student body. In fact, a majority of students on most campuses would love it if they would just go away.

    Yet, colleges often pander to these nimrods. One has to suspect that when they do, it is because college adminstrative staff want to pander to the nimrods.

    • Agree: Twinkie, Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @Kronos
    @AnotherDad

    I think they’re just pawns for the admistration bureaucracy. Elite college kids won’t tie their own shoes unless ordered to by a superior.

  42. Talking of new IQ research, I just read Saintsbury’s 1924 Last Scrap Book hatchet job on young Cyril Burt’s Psychological Tests of Educable Capacity: ‘The thing cannot -in any form and to any extent that would be useful- be done; at best it would be a useless waste of time and money, at its worst productive of some mischief certainly, and probably of horrible injustice’.

    Criticism of IQ tests come in different flavors. Black folks annoyed by racial insult, people who curse IQ tests like I cuss the weight machine in my bedroom, Saintsbury’s small c conservatism.

  43. Professor Maroja is a Crimethinker, and probably a White Supremacist to boot.

    She will be unpersoned.

  44. @Lot
    @PiltdownMan

    She’s too cute. Never underestimate the power of the White Knight.

    Name one hottie that has ever been Watsoned from a good job.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Felix Krull, @R.G. Camara, @Anon, @snorlax, @anonymous

    Justine Sacco of #HasJustineLandedYet

    • Replies: @eah
    @snorlax

    How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life

    In the early days of Twitter, I was a keen shamer. When newspaper columnists made racist or homophobic statements, I joined the pile-on. Sometimes I led it.

    The author -- Jon Ronson -- is a Jew (not that I want to reinforce any stereotypes or anything) -- to be fair, there's more to the article -- however the fact he still thinks the tweet was "stupid" is telling: it was only "stupid" due to the reaction of scum like him -- but he's way too dumb to see that.

    Replies: @snorlax

    , @Moses
    @snorlax

    Big hoop earrings always mean DTF.

  45. OT: To answer Steve’s question


    it’s “fat empowerment.”

    • Replies: @jon
    @snorlax

    From the Gillete Venus Twitter account you linked:


    No retouching. No restrictions. No one way to have beautiful skin or to show it off. Venus stands with all women who right the rules. #MySkinMyWay
     
    But you have to keep shaving that repulsive hair, don't get too comfortable in your natural state.
    , @Mr McKenna
    @snorlax


    ‘Fat Sex Therapist’ compares fitness to Nazism, dieting to rape

    Fatness is health, dieting is sexual assault, and fitness is a white supremacist Nazi science – so stated a self-described ‘Fat Sex Therapist” at a college talk. Commenters were shocked, but the anti-fitness backlash is growing.

    Sonalee Rashatwar, the therapist in question, delivered her polemic in a two-hour lecture at St. Olaf College, Minnesota last week. Puzzlingly, the lecture was hosted by the university’s Wellness Center, in conjunction with the Women’s and Gender Studies Department...

    “I do not think it’s surprising that the man who shot up Christchurch, New Zealand was also a fitness instructor,” the self-described “Donut Queen” said. She argued that the shooting was “a clear communication that there’s still an idealized body. Nazis really love this idea of an idealized body, and so it makes a lot of sense to me that a fitness instructor… might also think about an idealized body in this thin white supremacist way.”
     

    https://www.rt.com/usa/457529-fat-sex-therapist-nazi/
    , @Almost Missouri
    @snorlax


    "I'm pretty certain it will NOT be pedophiles. That won't happen. That's the one thing everybody agrees is bad."
     
    Too late. It's already happening. See Barbra Streisand's remarks that Michael Jackson's pedo victims were "thrilled". Or the child drag queen phenomenon.

    Replies: @snorlax

    , @MEH 0910
    @snorlax

    https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1126599060071141376

    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @snorlax

    "Gillette Venus"-- That ought to give the marketers at P&G Gillette division something to think about in terms of a new poster child.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @snorlax

    Annie Liebowitz has put Amy Schumer in the Pirelli calendar:


    https://petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2015/12/pirelli.jpg

  46. @AnotherDad
    @PiltdownMan


    Williams plans to revise its policies after a faculty petition to adopt free speech guidelines enraged student activists.
     
    It's pathetic that colleges cave to "enraged student activists".

    If there's a group that does not represent any significant demographic "enraged student actvists" is pretty much it. They certainly do not represent any significant tranche of the student body. In fact, a majority of students on most campuses would love it if they would just go away.

    Yet, colleges often pander to these nimrods. One has to suspect that when they do, it is because college adminstrative staff want to pander to the nimrods.

    Replies: @Kronos

    I think they’re just pawns for the admistration bureaucracy. Elite college kids won’t tie their own shoes unless ordered to by a superior.

  47. Anonymous[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Whom should I throw from the sleigh to the pursuing wolves next? Hey, what are you doing? Put me down!
     
    That's a fresh take on "under the bus".

    Speaking of Brazil, the state of Pernambuco, capital Recife, has the same range of postal codes as do Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and perhaps a Dakota or two. So they must have the same IQs, or at least prospects, per Raj Chetty.

    Welcome to Des Moines:


    https://c8.alamy.com/comp/C42HXH/street-in-brasilia-teimosa-area-in-recife-brazil-C42HXH.jpg

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Pernambuco is also the name of a wood from which all quality violin, viola and cello bows are made. (Bass bows can be made from osage orange or other woods.)

    The wood is CITES listed and scarce because the Brazilians chopped it all down like they did with the cuntwood, I mean Brazilian Rosewood (Dalbergia nigra) trees. Brazilian Rosewood is used in expensive guitars because that’s what Gibson and Martin had cheap access to so it must be better in the minds of vintage guitar cunts.

    Both Brazilian Rosewood and Pernambuco trees will grow elsewhere but no one does.

    However Brazilian Rosewood trees grow very slowly and will not yield usable guitar wood in one human lifetime. Really useful trees are 200 to 400 years old. Pernambuco can be planted and yield usable bow wood in 30 years.

    I asked a bowmaker the logical question, why not grow the pernambuco trees in other locales? He seemed to feel that it would be wrong to do so because the Brazilians would not profit from “their” wood. I left unsaid the idea that they were too fucking stupid to properly manage their assets and that no plant had a moral claim on being only grown in one place.

    Brazil first burned huge quantities of its exotic woods to run buses in gasogenios, and then bulldozed much of the rest to make pasture for cow profits, or ruined much of the lumber by insisting that it be made into finished product in Brazil where the humidity made drying difficult and the lack of skilled workers-Brazilians can not make decent guitars domestically, see Del Vecchio, and other examples, because they are fuckups and because you can’t import decent tools-the same applies to many other trades. The only Brazilian products worth anything are things made under tight German or other European supervision.

    By the time Brazil gets its shit together composite bows will have replaced pernambuco ones entirely except for amateur Baroque period correct ensembles and bluegrass fiddlers, who are not exactly the fussiest but worship whatever Bill Monroe’s crew used.

    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Anonymous

    No argument with your story on the screwed-up violin/guitar specialty-wood market, but what about Embraer and their regional, now "cross-over" (regional/mainline) jet production? I think they do pretty well with that, which is a pretty high-tech business.

    Funny story: I told my friend, who was about to take a trip, that his first leg was on the "jungle jet" as people affectionately called the E-135/145 series (the ones with 3 seats abreast). He told me that he got on the plane, and asked "Hey, is this the jungle jet?" The black Captain, black First Officer, and black flight attendant didn't say anything really.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    Pernambuco is also the name of a wood from which all quality violin, viola and cello bows are made. (Bass bows can be made from osage orange or other woods.)
     
    Is this what Emperor Naruhito uses?


    https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2018/09/918/516/53a5db90c9ab4a4a9ce93b709a7062ad-1.jpg?ve=1&tl=1
    , @PV van der Byl
    @Anonymous

    This is an old story in Brazil.

    Lots of trees require many years (e.g. decades or more) between planting and the first commercial harvest.

    So, pay-offs are distant and the present value low, even when property rights (i.e. claims on those future harvests) are strong.

    When property rights are weak, as they have been historically in Brazil, the present value is negligible.

    That is why so much Brazilian agriculture is nearly "slash and burn." No property titles exist in vast areas of the country but particularly in the Amazon. So, planters do what can be harvested in no more than a few growing seasons, natural timber and livestock being good examples.

    In the 1870s, a British civil servant exported natural rubber plants from Brazil to various tropical British possessions to be grown on rubber plantations and where harvesting used methods that wouldn't kill the trees. The Dutch did the same.

    Indignant Brazilian officials banned the export of rubber plants and claimed their patrimony had been stolen.

    It never occurred to them to ask why publicly listed companies were creating plantations in Malaya and the Dutch East Indies (now Indonesia) but not in Brazil.

  48. In reference to Sailer’s belief that “everyone agrees” pedophilia is bad – he is absolutely wrong. I do not have the patience to do the searching (plus, it’s awfully depressing), but anyone motivated to find LBQTWRSTUVWXYZ/Trans/Deviant people who plainly demand that pedophilia be “normalized” – and of course legalized – can find those people by the bunches.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    @Charles

    George Clooney's Tomorrowland appeared to be pushing the envelope regarding pedophilia (actually ephebophilia) but I'm unaware of any follow-up to it. Any follow-up would have to appeal to women. George Clooney consummating his love for an adolescent girl is too likely to make women jealous. Perhaps a sympathetic Catholic priest and an altar boy...

  49. @Anon
    EC Comics -- Haunt of Fear #13 -- Wolf Bait.

    The snarling, snapping grey-deaths leap up around the sleigh! One of them gashes the young officer's face.

    There is a way! The meat stopped them! One of us could stop them! It's only a few miles more.

    You're mad Ivan!

    He's right! It's one ... or all!

    Who? Who will go?

    It takes only a split second to make the decision. The people in the sleigh, like the animals outside, spring upon their victim ... lift the figure ... and toss it to the howling shadows.

    EEAAAAAAAAHHHH!

    And while the pack rips and tears at the sacrificed one, the sleigh speeds on toward the town ... and safety.

     

    https://d3nvbf5pqk2vjh.cloudfront.net/cgccomics/monthly_2018_06/E378C4BC-3022-4E5A-BC0F-2692282DEC69.thumb.jpeg.8f2111836aebad132773400a620b3a64.jpeg

    [Five more pages]

    https://d3nvbf5pqk2vjh.cloudfront.net/cgccomics/monthly_2018_06/0BC5B434-BE2B-46D8-9066-A85F046356D6.thumb.jpeg.68f2681bb80c7bcbf3b0cbe585d1492d.jpeg

    Full comic here:

    https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/435654-anyone-remember-this-story/

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @the one they call Desanex

    Joseph Keppler used the meme in 1884 in a famous cartoon in the satirical magazine Puck.

    • Replies: @Graham
    @PiltdownMan

    And Harry Flashman infamously threw a naked girl from a sleigh in Flashman at the Charge by George MacDonald Fraser.

    Replies: @68W58

  50. @Paleo Liberal
    @syonredux

    I had some rather attractive chemistry professors in college. Smart as heck, too.

    There are plenty of attractive female scientists. The girl who was homecoming queen and head cheerleader at my high school is now a member of the National Academy of Sciences.

    And some of the female grad students I knew in grad school were rather attractive.

    In the old days Cal Tech had a reputation as being the place where the female post docs were both brilliant and hot as heck. There is a great bit in Joseph Wambaugh’s novel Delta Star when a good looking young cop finds himself at a party with hot post docs at Cal Tech, and he fails miserably at his attempts to pick some of them up.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @jon, @YetAnotherAnon, @L Woods, @Anonymous

    Smart as heck… hot as heck

    If you are using these phrases unironically, it is difficult to take anything else you say seriously.

  51. Anon[483] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Lot

    From a historical perspective, there simply have not yet been enough boba fide "hotties" in bona fide "good jobs" in the age of bona fide "Watsoning" to make up a reasonable sample for analysis.

    Also, she's barely a 5 now (what on Earth is your conception of hottie?). Put on a few more years and a few more pounds, and replace that young-gal smile with a basic-b snarl, and then we can compare notes.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anon

    Also, she’s barely a 5 now (what on Earth is your conception of hottie?). Put on a few more years and a few more pounds, and replace that young-gal smile with a basic-b snarl, and then we can compare notes.

    She’s contextually hot. “Professor hot.”

    It’s similar to how the chick in the first row of the second violins is “orchestra hot,” unlike the concert mistress or the second oboe.

  52. @Days of Broken Arrows
    Someone needs to ask these students: If I.Q. is not inherited, then how do they explain why Ivy League donors to sperm banks are so sought after?

    If these kids really feel that way, when they get married someday and some husbands prove to be infertile, the wives should just have sex with the town drunks and/or small time crooks since genetics matter little.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @bomag

    There’s a good chance these students already have town drunk/ small time crook genes overrepresented in their DNA.

  53. @Anon
    It's not possible to come up with a evolutionary model for how the human species became smarter than the apes unless:

    1) Intelligence is a heritable trait.
    2) It confers a Darwinian advantage on those who have it.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Jack D

    Evolution is all racist honky sheeeit so ice devils can call black people apes!

  54. @Tiny Duck
    Marina is a liar

    https://mobile.twitter.com/rezaaslan/status/1121176913995636737

    Also Trumps will be impeached

    Replies: @syonredux, @El Dato, @TWS

    I never said administrators should decide free speech on campus.

    Dammit….I just can’t come out and say that free speech is over…..Even now, that would get too much negative press….How am I gonna phrase this….

    I said all universities have the right to decide their own mission and values and reject speakers who violate those values.

    Got it! See, it’s not a question of free speech; it’s all about mission and values…..

    https://mobile.twitter.com/rezaaslan/status/1121177572581134336

    • Replies: @jon
    @syonredux

    You fed the troll, that's a demerit.

    Replies: @syonredux

    , @Dieter Kief
    @syonredux

    Tiny Duck just wants to help us to understand better, what's really up - and he does - with a little help from his friends. (Heh)!

  55. @Anoln
    @Jack D dug up this article about the professor:

    This scientist took on student activists who cheered for censorship. Now she’s refuting their ‘violence’ claims.
    https://www.thecollegefix.com/this-scientist-took-on-student-activists-who-cheered-for-censorship-now-shes-refuting-their-violence-claims/

    Here's something she wrote for the school newspaper:

    Refuting claims of institutional violence: Analyzing evidence of racism at the College
    https://williamsrecord.com/2019/05/refuting-claims-of-institutional-violence-analyzing-evidence-of-racism-at-the-college/

    The way she listens to what they say, analyzes it, develops a simple research protocol to investigate it, finds that it's false, and reports her findings in the school newspaper: That sort of stuff causes their heads to explode.

    Also, the fact that she is somewhat intersectional helps her: female, hispanic, although whitish in the Brazilian system of clinal race. She's also very calm and fearless. It's hard to get under her skin.

    https://whyevolutionistrue.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/luana-web.jpg

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Andy, @Marco, @Anonymous

    She’s also very calm and fearless

    – and she looks like being at ease with herself. What else could you wish for – in those golden days, when America still a hope-filled nation, some fifty years ago, let’s say.

    Now persons like her are a threat to the suffering young, locked in between student debt and no prospering job market at all. There just seems to be “no way out” for them other than A) hard scientific work and b) collecting pokemon points and try to be successful in this regressive way.

    The regressive left*** on its warrior trail into the Coddling of the American Mind***.

    *** Dave Rubin/ Greg Lukianoff/ Jonathan Haidt

  56. How many of the complaining students are only in the yummy Dr.’s course because it’s required? Old joke: Student: I don’t know why I have to take calculus, it has nothing to do with what I’ll learn in medical school. Professor: It’s to keep some people from going to medical school.

  57. @Anoln
    Here's the only video that I have been able to find of her speaking. There is something off about her, beyond the Portuguese accent. She almost sounds retarded. But she obviously isn't: her written work is very literate and organized, and she's a tenured professor, and retarded people can only become tenured professors in grievance studies departments, not STEM.

    She comes off like she is trying to do a Robert De Niro imitation, but isn't very good at it. She speaks from 02:40:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=258&v=iCVTHYgYshQ

    She explains that she grew up in a family of communists who were exiled or disappeared during the authoritarian military dictatorship from the sixties through the eighties in Brazil. So she's touchy about free speech.

    Replies: @bomag, @Daniel H, @Jack D

    There is something off about her, beyond the Portuguese accent. She almost sounds retarded. But she obviously isn’t …

    Very much the same speech pattern as Temple Grandin; so I’d guess she’s a bit autistic, which probably also explains why she doesn’t have much patience for those mouthing political niceties.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @bomag

    I think it would be a challenge (even for the yummiest of stud muffins) to get her motor running and her oil temp up enough for a romp around the bedroom.

  58. @Paleo Liberal
    @syonredux

    I had some rather attractive chemistry professors in college. Smart as heck, too.

    There are plenty of attractive female scientists. The girl who was homecoming queen and head cheerleader at my high school is now a member of the National Academy of Sciences.

    And some of the female grad students I knew in grad school were rather attractive.

    In the old days Cal Tech had a reputation as being the place where the female post docs were both brilliant and hot as heck. There is a great bit in Joseph Wambaugh’s novel Delta Star when a good looking young cop finds himself at a party with hot post docs at Cal Tech, and he fails miserably at his attempts to pick some of them up.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @jon, @YetAnotherAnon, @L Woods, @Anonymous

    In the old days Cal Tech had a reputation as being the place where the female post docs were both brilliant and hot as heck.

    Apparently, times have changed:
    http://www.cpa.caltech.edu/

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @jon

    Maybe PL had a bit of a drinking problem in his younger days? Or has a serious geek girl fetish like me?

  59. eah says:

    Biological Male Wins a Women’s NCAA Track Championship

    A biological male — Franklin Pierce University runner CeCe Telfer — won an NCAA national championship over the weekend…CeCe is a male who identifies as a woman…Telfer previously ran a variety of events for Franklin Pierce’s men’s team, during most of which time he went by the first name Craig, according to school records…Telfer competed on FPU’s men’s track team as recently as January 2018…As long as he suppressed his testosterone levels for one year, he can complete as a woman, according to NCAA rules.

    • Replies: @eah
    @eah

    As long as he suppressed his testosterone levels for one year, he can complete as a woman, according to NCAA rules.

    It is not clear how much sense these rules actually make -- a typical 80 y/o male has less than 25% of the testosterone found in a 20-25 y/o male -- yet the average 80 y/o male still has more grip strength than the average female of any age -- also female testosterone levels are > 50% of the average male level, at all ages.

    https://bodytechrejuvenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/testosterone-levels-by-age.jpg

    https://i.postimg.cc/d3nMCbbg/The-average-80-year-old-man-has-more-strength-than-a-female-of-A.jpg

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    , @Anonymous
    @eah

    All to the good.

  60. My approach has been to teach students how to see through those efforts, by explaining how scientists understand heritability today, and by discussing how to interpret intelligence data—and how not to.

    In class, though, some students argued instead that it is impossible to measure IQ in the first place, that IQ tests were invented to ostracize minority groups, or that IQ is not heritable at all.

    You know who “some students” are–the onesWilliams admitted despite their not being quite bright enough to follow her discussion of heritability. These are not the biology or pre-med students.

  61. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Lot

    From a historical perspective, there simply have not yet been enough boba fide "hotties" in bona fide "good jobs" in the age of bona fide "Watsoning" to make up a reasonable sample for analysis.

    Also, she's barely a 5 now (what on Earth is your conception of hottie?). Put on a few more years and a few more pounds, and replace that young-gal smile with a basic-b snarl, and then we can compare notes.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anon

    Sometimes the outdoorsy types age better than the hothouse orchids. And you don’t have to worry about looking at a weird botoxy plastic surgery mess — and paying for it.

    At any rate, the golden rule is, “Look at the mother.” Look very closely at the mother.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @Anon

    Very true.

    I knew a girl growing up who was a real ugly duckling hillbilly type. A lot of the girls in the hills are lovely when they are teens, decent looking in their 20s but well past their prime in their 40s. This girl’s mother looked fantastic in her 40s.

    I kept telling the girl she would be much better looking in her 40s and later than the other girls. I was right. She looked as good as her mother in her 40s.

    Now, this girl is in her early 60s and her mother is in the same old age home as my mother. Her mother looks really good for a woman in her early 80s. I think the daughter will as well.

    , @Jack D
    @Anon

    Being in the sun is really bad for your skin in the long run. If you are an outdoorsy type you had better wear a lot of sunscreen and hats or you are going to look like a prune when you are old.

    Replies: @Escher, @Autochthon

    , @Autochthon
    @Anon

    Wow! Really?! Say, you should get the word out. They should have been teaching this stuff to children in elementary school for fifty years. There should be announcements in the public interest and campaigns to ensure awareness. Every parent should reinforce the importance of sunscreen. Maybe we could even get Georgia's own great Mary Schmich to immortalise the idea in an epic essay.

    I cannot thank you enough for sharing this esoteric wisdom. For now, though, I'm going to pause and enjoy a healthy cigarette to calm my shock....

    , @Autochthon
    @Anon

    Damnit. I replied to the wrong person; my ribbing was for Jack D. Ostensibly I deleted the reply to you and placed it as a reply to Jack, but I see now my efforts here, as in most of my life, apparently failed.

  62. jon says:
    @snorlax
    OT: To answer Steve's question
    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1133534038147325953
    it's "fat empowerment."
    https://twitter.com/GilletteVenus/status/1113565570354409473

    Replies: @jon, @Mr McKenna, @Almost Missouri, @MEH 0910, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Reg Cæsar

    From the Gillete Venus Twitter account you linked:

    No retouching. No restrictions. No one way to have beautiful skin or to show it off. Venus stands with all women who right the rules. #MySkinMyWay

    But you have to keep shaving that repulsive hair, don’t get too comfortable in your natural state.

  63. @syonredux
    @Tiny Duck


    I never said administrators should decide free speech on campus.
     
    Dammit....I just can't come out and say that free speech is over.....Even now, that would get too much negative press....How am I gonna phrase this....

    I said all universities have the right to decide their own mission and values and reject speakers who violate those values.
     
    Got it! See, it's not a question of free speech; it's all about mission and values.....








    https://mobile.twitter.com/rezaaslan/status/1121177572581134336

    Replies: @jon, @Dieter Kief

    You fed the troll, that’s a demerit.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @jon

    TD's not a troll. He's parodying SJWs.

  64. @Lagertha
    I'm kind of enjoying Progressive (that's what all liberals want to be called now) professors at elite colleges being told to go to hell by their own students! It is such sweet schadenfreude...to think that they didn't realize that all those Leftist ideas (multiculturalism/diversity is our strength blahblah) did not actually, sink into (years of indoctrination) the callow brains of teenagers, later college students, is really hilarious. You reap what you sow. We should start counting how many professors are complaining (and where) about this per month! hahaa

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Almost Missouri, @Xytil

    Yes, but in their defense, these students are getting radicalized in primary and secondary school, not university. I suspect they are so militant and doctrinaire because education majors/public school teachers are the absolute bottom of the education barrel.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Chrisnonymous

    Private schools (I know, from my children's friends) are now, full on-board, Cultural Marxism....even Exeter and Andover....all of them - they are all preaching the multi-culti stuff to their students.

  65. Similar biological denialism exists about nearly any observed difference between human groups, including those between males and females.

    She’ll probably catch more heat for admitting that there are actually such things as men and women than she will for pointing out that IQ is real and heritable.

  66. @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    Pernambuco is also the name of a wood from which all quality violin, viola and cello bows are made. (Bass bows can be made from osage orange or other woods.)

    The wood is CITES listed and scarce because the Brazilians chopped it all down like they did with the cuntwood, I mean Brazilian Rosewood (Dalbergia nigra) trees. Brazilian Rosewood is used in expensive guitars because that's what Gibson and Martin had cheap access to so it must be better in the minds of vintage guitar cunts.

    Both Brazilian Rosewood and Pernambuco trees will grow elsewhere but no one does.

    However Brazilian Rosewood trees grow very slowly and will not yield usable guitar wood in one human lifetime. Really useful trees are 200 to 400 years old. Pernambuco can be planted and yield usable bow wood in 30 years.

    I asked a bowmaker the logical question, why not grow the pernambuco trees in other locales? He seemed to feel that it would be wrong to do so because the Brazilians would not profit from "their" wood. I left unsaid the idea that they were too fucking stupid to properly manage their assets and that no plant had a moral claim on being only grown in one place.

    Brazil first burned huge quantities of its exotic woods to run buses in gasogenios, and then bulldozed much of the rest to make pasture for cow profits, or ruined much of the lumber by insisting that it be made into finished product in Brazil where the humidity made drying difficult and the lack of skilled workers-Brazilians can not make decent guitars domestically, see Del Vecchio, and other examples, because they are fuckups and because you can't import decent tools-the same applies to many other trades. The only Brazilian products worth anything are things made under tight German or other European supervision.

    By the time Brazil gets its shit together composite bows will have replaced pernambuco ones entirely except for amateur Baroque period correct ensembles and bluegrass fiddlers, who are not exactly the fussiest but worship whatever Bill Monroe's crew used.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar, @PV van der Byl

    No argument with your story on the screwed-up violin/guitar specialty-wood market, but what about Embraer and their regional, now “cross-over” (regional/mainline) jet production? I think they do pretty well with that, which is a pretty high-tech business.

    Funny story: I told my friend, who was about to take a trip, that his first leg was on the “jungle jet” as people affectionately called the E-135/145 series (the ones with 3 seats abreast). He told me that he got on the plane, and asked “Hey, is this the jungle jet?” The black Captain, black First Officer, and black flight attendant didn’t say anything really.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Your pal has balls of Quebracho (another tropical/sub-tropical exotic super hard wood) and/or was stoned out of his mind when he got on that plane with that crew.

  67. eah says:
    @snorlax
    @Lot

    Justine Sacco of #HasJustineLandedYet

    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/571687441792434176/37ZFFb8k.jpeg

    https://userscontent2.emaze.com/images/86d6b35c-68da-4de7-9d0e-4da854e9271c/c172f28438953e2284dad126e696f57a.jpg

    Replies: @eah, @Moses

    How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life

    In the early days of Twitter, I was a keen shamer. When newspaper columnists made racist or homophobic statements, I joined the pile-on. Sometimes I led it.

    The author — Jon Ronson — is a Jew (not that I want to reinforce any stereotypes or anything) — to be fair, there’s more to the article — however the fact he still thinks the tweet was “stupid” is telling: it was only “stupid” due to the reaction of scum like him — but he’s way too dumb to see that.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @eah

    Justine's also a MoT.

    And I'm pretty sure he's not too dumb to see that, seeing as he wrote a book arguing against the practice of public shaming.

    Replies: @eah

  68. Not completely ON Topic, but related to all posts with the HBD nature/nurture arguments:

    I really don’t think even the “50%” number should be used. It implies precision that is not there. It would make one think that we know the nature/nurture ratio is between 49.5% and 50.1%, but to get not quite so technical (and also because the “0” is a placeholder digit) at least that we know that it’s between, say, 45% and 55%.

    Well, nobody knows that. It’d be more honest to just say “both nature and nurture have significant effects” or something like that. OK, carry on.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsCuhYZpWLY

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  69. @Anon
    A concise history of iSteve Russian sleigh references

    JANUARY 17, 2019 - Is the NYT Gearing Up to Watson Geneticist David Reich Too?

    ... Russians peasants out of his sleigh ideologically to save his operation...

    JULY 24, 2018 - NYT: Beware! "Members of the 'Human Biodiversity Movement' Enthusiastically Tweet and Blog"

    .... Similarly, if you see a sleigh full of Russian peasants being... of the back of the sleigh and is devoured by the... the other peasants in the sleigh time to get away, you...

    AUGUST 16, 2018 - Did the Royal Society Throw Hobbes from the Russian Sleigh?

    A reader writes: You might get a kick out of this passage from Noel Malcolm's Aspects of Hobbes (2002), pp. 22-23: "Since Hobbes had, by the late 1650s, acquired the enmity of three leading scientists, it is not surprising that there was some reluctance to...

    MARCH 23, 2018 - Reich in NYT: "How Genetics Is Changing Our Understanding of 'Race'"

    ... set of Russians in a sleigh pursued by hungry wolves across... of Russians out of the sleigh. To understand why it is...

    MAY 19, 2017 - More Responses to Vox Attack on Charles Murray

    ... tactic that I call Siberian-sleigh-pursued-by-wolves. The idea... throw one person in your sleigh out for the wolves to...

    DECEMBER 1, 2002 - Republicans Are Now Hoping Against Hope That Just...

    ... tossed out of the sleigh (the legendary Russian sleigh being chased by...

    OCTOBER 12, 2012 - "How Deep Are the Roots of Economic Development?"

    ... the Russian peasants in a sleigh pursued by wolves who periodically...

    JUNE 8, 2005 - Now We Know Why Garance Franke-Ruta Smeared Me Last Year: So She Could Steal My Ideas Without Attribution!

    ... honest than themselves from the sleigh. But I wasn't devious enough...

    DECEMBER 24, 2004 - The American Prospect Can't Stand the Heat and Wants Everybody Else to Get Out of the Kitchen:

    ... are closing in on the sleigh, throw somebody even more politically...

    DECEMBER 1, 2002 - Anita Hill All Over Again: The Lott Imbroglio...

    ... the Russian Peasants in the Sleigh strategy of occasionally tossing one...

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Dieter Kief, @Captain Tripps, @obwandiyag, @JMcG

  70. @t
    OT: Report finds that black Students in Chicago are the most likely to attend schools with poor rankings:

    https://wgntv.com/2019/05/28/are-chicago-public-schools-making-the-grade/

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Forbes, @BigDickNick

    It’s like the Guardian hardy perennial “why are the best state schools dominated by the middle classes?“.

  71. @black sea
    I used to know a history professor who frequently commented that IQ tests don't measure anything. After having heard this one time too many, I asked him if he really believed that.

    I think this was the first time anyone had ever bothered to question his assertion, and the conversation just fell off a cliff. No response at all.


    On a different note. "Brazil is the country of the future. And always will be."

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    “Brazil is the country of the future. And always will be.”

    At the rate this young lady is going, it’s going to be in her future too, as well as in her past.

  72. @snorlax
    OT: To answer Steve's question
    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1133534038147325953
    it's "fat empowerment."
    https://twitter.com/GilletteVenus/status/1113565570354409473

    Replies: @jon, @Mr McKenna, @Almost Missouri, @MEH 0910, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Reg Cæsar

    ‘Fat Sex Therapist’ compares fitness to Nazism, dieting to rape

    Fatness is health, dieting is sexual assault, and fitness is a white supremacist Nazi science – so stated a self-described ‘Fat Sex Therapist” at a college talk. Commenters were shocked, but the anti-fitness backlash is growing.

    Sonalee Rashatwar, the therapist in question, delivered her polemic in a two-hour lecture at St. Olaf College, Minnesota last week. Puzzlingly, the lecture was hosted by the university’s Wellness Center, in conjunction with the Women’s and Gender Studies Department…

    “I do not think it’s surprising that the man who shot up Christchurch, New Zealand was also a fitness instructor,” the self-described “Donut Queen” said. She argued that the shooting was “a clear communication that there’s still an idealized body. Nazis really love this idea of an idealized body, and so it makes a lot of sense to me that a fitness instructor… might also think about an idealized body in this thin white supremacist way.”

    https://www.rt.com/usa/457529-fat-sex-therapist-nazi/

  73. She cites IQ facts. She discovers uncomfortable conclusions. So she invents stories for avoiding those uncomfortable conclusions.

    Her students are just learning from her and doing the same thing. The difference is that the students are inventing different stories, but the willingness to impose leftist ideology is about the same.

  74. https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2019/05/29/williams-biology-professor-decries-the-wokeness-of-her-students/

    One difference between Maroja’s class and, say, Bret Weinstein’s biology classes at Evergreen State, is that Weinstein’s biology students didn’t seem to reject what he was teaching them about evolution and genetics; nearly all the pushback at his school came—as usual—from professors and students in the humanities.

    Some of the faculties for people and profs with special needs have to go to save the others. Hurry, before it is too late.

    Similar biological denialism exists about nearly any observed difference between human groups, including those between males and females. Unfortunately, students push back against these phenomena not by using scientific arguments, but by employing an a priori moral commitment to equality, anti-racism, and anti-sexism. They resort to denialism to protect themselves from having to confront a worldview they reject—that certain differences between groups may be based partly on biology. This denialism manifests itself at times in classroom discussions and in emails in which students explain at length why I should not be teaching the topic.

    Where do students get so much chutzpah and a delusion of adequacy? Is there a permanent fodder of “YOU CAN CHANGE THE WORLD and generate justice for the underrepresented minority on the teen team in the span of 2h” that is possibly served by teenager TV? Do people no longer read? It might be so!

    To my surprise, some students even objected to other well-established biological concepts, such as “kin selection,” the idea that, when individuals take actions for the benefit of their offspring and siblings, they are indirectly perpetuating their own genes.

    Directly, not indirectly! What happened to “The Selfish Gene” (a bad title, I know). But yes, better not notice, because You have to be Replaced and noticing is a hindrance (handrubbing intensifies).

    Startled students, falling into what we call the “naturalistic fallacy”—the notion that what occurs in nature is good—thought I was actually endorsing Trump’s hiring of his family! Things have gone so far that, in my classes, I now feel compelled to issue a caveat: Just because a trait has evolved by natural selection does not mean that it is also morally desirable.

    Are we talking about white skin here?

    Or the Alien?

    Recently at the University:

  75. @Anon
    A concise history of iSteve Russian sleigh references

    JANUARY 17, 2019 - Is the NYT Gearing Up to Watson Geneticist David Reich Too?

    ... Russians peasants out of his sleigh ideologically to save his operation...

    JULY 24, 2018 - NYT: Beware! "Members of the 'Human Biodiversity Movement' Enthusiastically Tweet and Blog"

    .... Similarly, if you see a sleigh full of Russian peasants being... of the back of the sleigh and is devoured by the... the other peasants in the sleigh time to get away, you...

    AUGUST 16, 2018 - Did the Royal Society Throw Hobbes from the Russian Sleigh?

    A reader writes: You might get a kick out of this passage from Noel Malcolm's Aspects of Hobbes (2002), pp. 22-23: "Since Hobbes had, by the late 1650s, acquired the enmity of three leading scientists, it is not surprising that there was some reluctance to...

    MARCH 23, 2018 - Reich in NYT: "How Genetics Is Changing Our Understanding of 'Race'"

    ... set of Russians in a sleigh pursued by hungry wolves across... of Russians out of the sleigh. To understand why it is...

    MAY 19, 2017 - More Responses to Vox Attack on Charles Murray

    ... tactic that I call Siberian-sleigh-pursued-by-wolves. The idea... throw one person in your sleigh out for the wolves to...

    DECEMBER 1, 2002 - Republicans Are Now Hoping Against Hope That Just...

    ... tossed out of the sleigh (the legendary Russian sleigh being chased by...

    OCTOBER 12, 2012 - "How Deep Are the Roots of Economic Development?"

    ... the Russian peasants in a sleigh pursued by wolves who periodically...

    JUNE 8, 2005 - Now We Know Why Garance Franke-Ruta Smeared Me Last Year: So She Could Steal My Ideas Without Attribution!

    ... honest than themselves from the sleigh. But I wasn't devious enough...

    DECEMBER 24, 2004 - The American Prospect Can't Stand the Heat and Wants Everybody Else to Get Out of the Kitchen:

    ... are closing in on the sleigh, throw somebody even more politically...

    DECEMBER 1, 2002 - Anita Hill All Over Again: The Lott Imbroglio...

    ... the Russian Peasants in the Sleigh strategy of occasionally tossing one...

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Dieter Kief, @Captain Tripps, @obwandiyag, @JMcG

    Thanks for keeping track of those enlightening and at times even funny Steve-Sailer-nightmares!

  76. @syonredux
    @Tiny Duck


    I never said administrators should decide free speech on campus.
     
    Dammit....I just can't come out and say that free speech is over.....Even now, that would get too much negative press....How am I gonna phrase this....

    I said all universities have the right to decide their own mission and values and reject speakers who violate those values.
     
    Got it! See, it's not a question of free speech; it's all about mission and values.....








    https://mobile.twitter.com/rezaaslan/status/1121177572581134336

    Replies: @jon, @Dieter Kief

    Tiny Duck just wants to help us to understand better, what’s really up – and he does – with a little help from his friends. (Heh)!

  77. @Anon
    Aha! This explains her sudden burst of activity:

    Four Faculty Receive Tenure
    https://magazine.williams.edu/2016/spring/notice/four-faculty-receive-tenure/

    Four Williams faculty members have been promoted to associate professor with tenure, effective July 1. 2016.

    Luana Maroja, biology. An evolutionary biologist, Maroja studies the evolution of barriers to gene exchange. Her research seeks to understand how reproductive isolation evolves and how lineages eventually become distinct. She teaches courses on evolution and genetics, and she recently received a grant from the Hellman Family Foundation. She serves on the ad-hoc Committee on Student Course Survey Scores.
     
    https://magazine.williams.edu/files/2016/02/LuanaMajora_30.jpg

    Replies: @El Dato, @WowJustWow

    Explain!

    Being associate professor with tenure is not a pass to slack off.

    (I’m not even sure it is an enviable position; “associate” probably means “doing the stuff that the real professor does not want to do”. Like teaching or grading.)

    • Replies: @68W58
    @El Dato

    Academic ranks exist in our university system-so an associate professor ranks above an assistant professor but below a full or distinguished professor. A lot of that has to do with time in the system or publications, but an associate prof is still a pretty good spot to be in.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_ranks_in_the_United_States

  78. @Paleo Liberal
    @syonredux

    I had some rather attractive chemistry professors in college. Smart as heck, too.

    There are plenty of attractive female scientists. The girl who was homecoming queen and head cheerleader at my high school is now a member of the National Academy of Sciences.

    And some of the female grad students I knew in grad school were rather attractive.

    In the old days Cal Tech had a reputation as being the place where the female post docs were both brilliant and hot as heck. There is a great bit in Joseph Wambaugh’s novel Delta Star when a good looking young cop finds himself at a party with hot post docs at Cal Tech, and he fails miserably at his attempts to pick some of them up.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @jon, @YetAnotherAnon, @L Woods, @Anonymous

    UK medical students (more than 50% female at present) are pretty bright, not an unattractive bunch, and I’ve seen some lovely lady doctors.

    The UK TV show “University Challenge”, one of the few things I watch, is an interesting place to study the brains/beauty intersection in both males and females at the top end of the brains spectrum. In males the nerds outnumber the Chadly types maybe 3 to 1, it’s more like 50/50 between nerdettes and Stacys.

    Here’s the Oxford medical student and classic English rose Emma Johnson, who set viewers tweeting a lot in 2017.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @YetAnotherAnon

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXlLwxFpVZY

    , @Xytil
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Anyone who refers to an English woman as an "English rose" really needs to have their balls twisted off and slammed against the undefeated wall of ageing femininity.
    Oh wait! That's exactly what happens to such cucks.
    There is a God!

    , @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon

    As someone else said, she is good looking for a doctor. "Doctor hot". As a Hollywood actress or a fashion model she wouldn't merit a second glance.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

  79. @Anoln
    Here's the only video that I have been able to find of her speaking. There is something off about her, beyond the Portuguese accent. She almost sounds retarded. But she obviously isn't: her written work is very literate and organized, and she's a tenured professor, and retarded people can only become tenured professors in grievance studies departments, not STEM.

    She comes off like she is trying to do a Robert De Niro imitation, but isn't very good at it. She speaks from 02:40:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=258&v=iCVTHYgYshQ

    She explains that she grew up in a family of communists who were exiled or disappeared during the authoritarian military dictatorship from the sixties through the eighties in Brazil. So she's touchy about free speech.

    Replies: @bomag, @Daniel H, @Jack D

    There is something off about her, beyond the Portuguese accent. She almost sounds retarded.

    I know a lot of Brazilians, and from her cadence, pronunciation, accent she sounds like the real deal. She appears to be an intelligent young women (well, 40s is still young, right?) who came to English relatively late in life. She probably only really started studying English when she went up to Cornell to get her Ph.D. Good for her. Williams should be proud of her and back her to the hilt.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Daniel H

    > [Maroja] appears to be an intelligent young women... who came to English relatively late in life. She probably only really started studying English when she went up to Cornell to get her Ph.D.

    After listening to her in the linked Youtube video, I think you have the right of it. She sounds like a non-native speaker who is carefully constructing sentences and paragraphs as she says them. (I wish I could do as well in the other languages I somewhat know.)

    According to her Williams web page, she earned her BS from the Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro in 1999, then an MS two years later, before moving to Cornell for her PhD. She was a middle author of three peer-reviewed papers in 2000, thus probably had studied English in high school and college. That squares with her deliberate, heavily accented speech and her excellent written English. She also would have known that proficiency in English is close to a requirement for a career in academic biology.

  80. @PiltdownMan
    @Anon

    Joseph Keppler used the meme in 1884 in a famous cartoon in the satirical magazine Puck.

    https://i.imgur.com/mPDEH9a.jpg

    Replies: @Graham

    And Harry Flashman infamously threw a naked girl from a sleigh in Flashman at the Charge by George MacDonald Fraser.

    • Replies: @68W58
    @Graham

    That’s exactly what I thought of when I saw the picture Steve chose for his, though at least he threw her to the pursuing horsemen and not wolves.

  81. OT

    “A guide to help high-ranking British officers spot right-wing extremists in their ranks has been leaked – and the signs include people calling themselves ‘patriots’ and making ‘inaccurate generalisations about the Left’. “

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7082855/British-army-officers-told-soldiers-calling-patriots-extremists.html

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Getting rid of the all the unwoke recruits sounds like a secret pacifist plot: What if they held a war, but all the soldiers were too douchey to fight it?

    , @PiltdownMan
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I wonder this guy makes of all this stuff, assuming he's still in the service and not retired...

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/9571522/Soldier-who-led-Afghanistan-bayonet-charge-into-hail-of-bullets-honoured.html

    or these guys...

    https://www.scotsman.com/news/world/argylls-fight-hand-to-hand-in-iraq-1-1394156

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Apparently people who mention the word "traitors" are suspect.


    ‘Treason doth never prosper, what’s the reason? Why, if it prosper, none dare call it treason.’
     
    https://www.historytoday.com/archive/death-sir-john-harington
  82. @Tiny Duck
    Marina is a liar

    https://mobile.twitter.com/rezaaslan/status/1121176913995636737

    Also Trumps will be impeached

    Replies: @syonredux, @El Dato, @TWS

    Woah I went to http://rezaaslan.com/ and couldn’t withstand the garish ooze of promotion.

    Iranian-American a scholar of religious studies, writer, and television host

    Okay.

    Reza:

    This article about a panel I did w/ ⁦@jbouie at ⁦@WilliamsCollege is based on a lie written by some ⁩Jr prof named Luana Maroja who should be proud that her lie has now been picked up by Breitbart.

    > Forgets to say what lie that is.
    > People who only exist because of free speech demanding less of free speech of the sort they don’t like.
    > Getting into various trouble with the Hindus

    Williams College Students Demand Censorship on Campus Because ‘Free Speech Harms’

    It’s Forced Listening which harms.

    Faculty at Williams College are seeking to adopt the “Chicago principles,” which free speech advocates consider “the gold standard of free speech philosophy,” according to a report by Inside Higher Ed. The proposal has reportedly sparked backlash among students, who are demanding that speech be curtailed on campus.

    Williams College associate professor Luana S. Maroja and other professors circulated the faculty petition calling on the school to adopt the Chicago principles after Maroja had attended a panel discussion on free expression last semester — an experience in which the professor had noted was “appalling.”

    The panel included former CNN host Reza Aslan, who made bizarre statements, such as claiming that administrators should dictate what can and cannot be said on college campuses. Professor Maroja noted that Aslan’s statements had baffled her, adding that students had even cheered in response to the former CNN host’s remarks.

    “This nonsense was met with intense student applause,” said Maroja, “It was appalling.”

    I don’t need a video to know how this looked:

    Free Speech ‘Meltdown’

    “Students were just screaming that we were trying to ‘kill them,’” Maroja said.

    The students had put together and brought with them a lengthy statement, which has since morphed into a counterpetition, that argued the Chicago principles — and more broadly, unfettered free speech — harms minority students.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @El Dato

    Not to mention his other tweet about the biochemistry head of department at Williams College.


    You should be ashamed Maroja, whoever the hell you are.
     
    Even giving due consideration to Twitter's culture of abusive exchange, this is one arrogant fella. Not unusual among Iranian exiles I've met, though. It's that whole "we're practically the Shah of Iran" thing.
  83. Finnegans Wake version (via Parnell): “Do not flingamejig to the twolves!”

  84. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Paleo Liberal

    UK medical students (more than 50% female at present) are pretty bright, not an unattractive bunch, and I've seen some lovely lady doctors.

    The UK TV show "University Challenge", one of the few things I watch, is an interesting place to study the brains/beauty intersection in both males and females at the top end of the brains spectrum. In males the nerds outnumber the Chadly types maybe 3 to 1, it's more like 50/50 between nerdettes and Stacys.

    Here's the Oxford medical student and classic English rose Emma Johnson, who set viewers tweeting a lot in 2017.

    https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article10067643.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/University-Challenge.jpg

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/20/590x/secondary/Emma-Johnson-872001.jpg

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Xytil, @Jack D

    • Agree: MEH 0910
  85. @Achmed E. Newman
    Not completely ON Topic, but related to all posts with the HBD nature/nurture arguments:

    I really don't think even the "50%" number should be used. It implies precision that is not there. It would make one think that we know the nature/nurture ratio is between 49.5% and 50.1%, but to get not quite so technical (and also because the "0" is a placeholder digit) at least that we know that it's between, say, 45% and 55%.

    Well, nobody knows that. It'd be more honest to just say "both nature and nurture have significant effects" or something like that. OK, carry on.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer

    OK, I like Neil Young, and as you may know, I'm a big youtube-embed guy, but I don't get the point here ... could be on my end ...??

    While I have your attention, though, Steve, please tell me if that Village Valley snail-mail address is a good, secure one (say for a 8x11 envelope) for receiving funds.

  86. @Charles
    In reference to Sailer's belief that "everyone agrees" pedophilia is bad - he is absolutely wrong. I do not have the patience to do the searching (plus, it's awfully depressing), but anyone motivated to find LBQTWRSTUVWXYZ/Trans/Deviant people who plainly demand that pedophilia be "normalized" - and of course legalized - can find those people by the bunches.

    Replies: @Coemgen

    George Clooney’s Tomorrowland appeared to be pushing the envelope regarding pedophilia (actually ephebophilia) but I’m unaware of any follow-up to it. Any follow-up would have to appeal to women. George Clooney consummating his love for an adolescent girl is too likely to make women jealous. Perhaps a sympathetic Catholic priest and an altar boy…

  87. @Andy
    I wouldn't be surprised is the next target of the identitarian left is evolution itself. The blank slate view they espouse is incompatible with evolution and genetics

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Federalist

    I wouldn’t be surprised is the next target of the identitarian left is evolution itself. The blank slate view they espouse is incompatible with evolution and genetics

    Actually, it is the IQists who espouse a blank slate ideology. IQism and geneticism and HBDism all proceed from philosophical antecedents which are quite Lockean in nature, and would be seen to be so if their adherents would ever bring them clearly into consciousness, but they don’t.

    This is rather easy to demonstrate in the case of IQ. Suppose we take the claims of the HBDers at face value and stipulate that Blacks have an average IQ of 85. Even with that being the case, the much larger absolute size of the White population means that the left tail of its own IQ distribution contains more 85 IQ people than the entire Black population can boast of, yet you never hear the IQists complaining about them. This means, by their own lights, that the bad Black behavior which they abhor (assuming, again, that such is real and demonstrable and characteristic of Blacks and not of low IQ Whites, which were it not the case would imply that the IQists are either not observing correctly or are employing a double standard) must be due to something other than IQ—either “nurture” (which they scoff at) or some other essential factor of race that lies beneath its physical manifestation.

    Yet the so-called “race realists,” who are quick to bewail a deracinated culture all the livelong day, are perfectly ready to accept a deracinated intelligence as the sole arbiter of civilizational worth. Having already rejected nurture out of hand, and essentialism being too metaphysical for their limited grasp, they are constrained to fall back upon the hobgoblin of IQ itself, the flickering movement of a content-free intellect, the pure Lockean abstracta—the blank slate. They may try to get around this difficulty by introducing whimsical notions like “time preference” and r/K theory, but that is just recapitulating the problem and bringing in essentialism by the backdoor.

    For if their really exists such a thing as race (and I believe that there does) then it has as little to do with IQ as it does with skin color. Let there be no talk here of genes, and especially not of that abominably false distinction between genotype and phenotype. The DNA in a person is still “phenotype”; it is every bit as physical as the rest of him is, i.e. it is part of the phenomenon. There is only soul and body, matter and form; there is no third possibility. Everything not in the one must be in the other.

    Let the Left attack evolution and they would only be conferring a boon upon us. Getting rid of that system of superficial causality is something that the Alt-Right should have done for itself a long time ago. Yet it appears, by the tenacious manner in which they cling to it, that the race realists are more keen to defend Darwinism (which actually undermines their own position) than to defend the truth about race, which requires essentialism in order to be articulated coherently. The cause of this confusion is something about which I’m not going to speculate here, but I will say that the whole project will go nowhere as long as it is planted firmly in the fairyland of HBD.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Ohmygod you are such a breath of fresh air.

    I like how they think they even know what "evolution" is.

    , @Jack D
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Suppose we take the claims of the HBDers at face value and stipulate that Blacks have an average IQ of 85. Even with that being the case, the much larger absolute size of the White population means that the left tail of its own IQ distribution contains more 85 IQ people than the entire Black population can boast of, yet you never hear the IQists complaining about them.
     
    Actually, the below 85 IQ population is almost exactly divided 50/50 between whites and blacks (even though there are 6x as many whites as blacks), with there being slightly more blacks. And of course in certain statistics (e.g. murder rate) the gap is even more than 6x.

    For whites, this relatively small tail group is vastly outweighed by the millions of whites who have 85+ IQs but for blacks it's half of their population and all downhill from there.

    http://plantnews.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/iq-580x276.jpg

    Replies: @Romanian

    , @peterike
    @Intelligent Dasein


    They may try to get around this difficulty by introducing whimsical notions like “time preference” and r/K theory, but that is just recapitulating the problem and bringing in essentialism by the backdoor.

     

    Yeesh. "Whimsical notions" like time preference? When you combine poor future-time orientation (a genetic component) with low IQ, the result is incredibly stupid, impulsive decisions. These lead to crime, to incredibly bad financial decisions (black lottery winners and athletes going from millions to broke), to crime, to poor work and educational choices (why work today when I can't see the future benefits of it?), to crime, to letting your no good cousin DeShawn stay at your house and steal from you, to... oh, pretty much everything.

    "High time preference" is like the idiot switch in a dim-witted person that turns them from a more or less harmless dummy who can still navigate successfully in the world, to a massively negative force of social dysfunction. Blacks have it worse than whites. The end.
    , @Autochthon
    @Intelligent Dasein


    [T]he much larger absolute size of the White [sic] population means that the left tail of its own IQ distribution contains more 85 IQ people than the entire Black [sic] population can boast....
     
    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

    https://www.nptechforgood.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/World-population-nonprofits.png

    (Doubtless the disparity is even greater now than it was in 2017, and not in a way that supports your incorrect assertion. May I suggest a review of the Most Important Graph in the World?)

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    , @banopus
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Wow, as Voltaire kinda said of Rousseau, never has so much verbiage been used to say something so shallow. This is pure bs.

  88. eah says:
    @eah
    Biological Male Wins a Women’s NCAA Track Championship

    A biological male -- Franklin Pierce University runner CeCe Telfer -- won an NCAA national championship over the weekend...CeCe is a male who identifies as a woman...Telfer previously ran a variety of events for Franklin Pierce’s men’s team, during most of which time he went by the first name Craig, according to school records...Telfer competed on FPU’s men’s track team as recently as January 2018...As long as he suppressed his testosterone levels for one year, he can complete as a woman, according to NCAA rules.

    https://i0.wp.com/www.independentsentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/tefler.jpg

    Replies: @eah, @Anonymous

    As long as he suppressed his testosterone levels for one year, he can complete as a woman, according to NCAA rules.

    It is not clear how much sense these rules actually make — a typical 80 y/o male has less than 25% of the testosterone found in a 20-25 y/o male — yet the average 80 y/o male still has more grip strength than the average female of any age — also female testosterone levels are > 50% of the average male level, at all ages.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @eah


    also female testosterone levels are > 50% of the average male level, at all ages.
     
    Not the case after adolescence. The low end of males can overlap with the high end of females, but the difference is something approaching an order of magnitude.

    A high-T 20-year old woman might be up around 80. Less than a 1/10th of the 900 for a 20 year old.
  89. @syonredux
    For a lady prof in the sciences, not bad....

    https://magazine.williams.edu/files/2016/02/LuanaMajora_30.jpg

    Replies: @JimDandy, @R.G. Camara, @Paleo Liberal, @Sean, @The Wild Geese Howard, @slumber_j

    Carmelita-ish enough for me!

  90. That’s a very Wes Andersonian photo of her with the butterfly net.

  91. @snorlax
    OT: To answer Steve's question
    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1133534038147325953
    it's "fat empowerment."
    https://twitter.com/GilletteVenus/status/1113565570354409473

    Replies: @jon, @Mr McKenna, @Almost Missouri, @MEH 0910, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Reg Cæsar

    “I’m pretty certain it will NOT be pedophiles. That won’t happen. That’s the one thing everybody agrees is bad.”

    Too late. It’s already happening. See Barbra Streisand’s remarks that Michael Jackson’s pedo victims were “thrilled”. Or the child drag queen phenomenon.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @Almost Missouri


    Barbra Streisand’s remarks
     
    For which she was furiously and hysterically denounced by SJWs, who launched petitions to remove her music from Spotify etc.

    Anyone (i.e. me, or Steve) who's familiar with SJW circles knows they are extremely hostile to pedophiles, even more than the general population. One of their favorite pastimes is accusing people who make pedophilia-related jokes, or comment on the attractiveness of anyone below the age of 18, of being pedophiles, then organizing mass public shaming campaigns to get them fired.

    Many, many SJWs claim, with presumably varying degrees of veracity, to have been molested as children, which grants them major additional victim status. They are looking to increase their victim status, not decrease it or make it into oppressor status.

    Or the child drag queen phenomenon.
     
    Extremely creepy, but that's trans-related, not pedophilia related.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  92. This is all the fault of Christianity, everyone has a soul so everyone is equal

  93. @Daniel H
    @Anoln

    There is something off about her, beyond the Portuguese accent. She almost sounds retarded.


    I know a lot of Brazilians, and from her cadence, pronunciation, accent she sounds like the real deal. She appears to be an intelligent young women (well, 40s is still young, right?) who came to English relatively late in life. She probably only really started studying English when she went up to Cornell to get her Ph.D. Good for her. Williams should be proud of her and back her to the hilt.

    Replies: @ic1000

    > [Maroja] appears to be an intelligent young women… who came to English relatively late in life. She probably only really started studying English when she went up to Cornell to get her Ph.D.

    After listening to her in the linked Youtube video, I think you have the right of it. She sounds like a non-native speaker who is carefully constructing sentences and paragraphs as she says them. (I wish I could do as well in the other languages I somewhat know.)

    According to her Williams web page, she earned her BS from the Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro in 1999, then an MS two years later, before moving to Cornell for her PhD. She was a middle author of three peer-reviewed papers in 2000, thus probably had studied English in high school and college. That squares with her deliberate, heavily accented speech and her excellent written English. She also would have known that proficiency in English is close to a requirement for a career in academic biology.

  94. @Lagertha
    I'm kind of enjoying Progressive (that's what all liberals want to be called now) professors at elite colleges being told to go to hell by their own students! It is such sweet schadenfreude...to think that they didn't realize that all those Leftist ideas (multiculturalism/diversity is our strength blahblah) did not actually, sink into (years of indoctrination) the callow brains of teenagers, later college students, is really hilarious. You reap what you sow. We should start counting how many professors are complaining (and where) about this per month! hahaa

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Almost Missouri, @Xytil

    Yeah, the self-appointed moderate voice of reason tries mollify the new young radicals:

    I challenged the supposed intelligence differential between Americans and Brazilians. … There is, of course, a long history of charlatans who have cited dubious “science” as proof that certain racial and ethnic groups are genetically superior to others. My approach has been to teach students how to see through those efforts, by explaining how scientists understand heritability today, and by discussing how to interpret intelligence data—and how not to.

    In other words, she’s just selling a different (more moderate) theology. But what fun is theology if you’re just going to be moderate about it? There’s no market among the young and the restless for moderation, especially when life, the universe and everything are on the line.

    She may well retain her tenured position, but the marketshare/mindshare of mild boomer liberal science-ism is shrinking by the day.

  95. @Anoln
    Here's the only video that I have been able to find of her speaking. There is something off about her, beyond the Portuguese accent. She almost sounds retarded. But she obviously isn't: her written work is very literate and organized, and she's a tenured professor, and retarded people can only become tenured professors in grievance studies departments, not STEM.

    She comes off like she is trying to do a Robert De Niro imitation, but isn't very good at it. She speaks from 02:40:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=258&v=iCVTHYgYshQ

    She explains that she grew up in a family of communists who were exiled or disappeared during the authoritarian military dictatorship from the sixties through the eighties in Brazil. So she's touchy about free speech.

    Replies: @bomag, @Daniel H, @Jack D

    Her accent is normal for a Brazilian speaking English. You would sound retarded if you tried to speak Portuguese.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    @Jack D

    Is normal. I’m very exciting for back.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PelUZruMw-s

  96. @eah
    @snorlax

    How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life

    In the early days of Twitter, I was a keen shamer. When newspaper columnists made racist or homophobic statements, I joined the pile-on. Sometimes I led it.

    The author -- Jon Ronson -- is a Jew (not that I want to reinforce any stereotypes or anything) -- to be fair, there's more to the article -- however the fact he still thinks the tweet was "stupid" is telling: it was only "stupid" due to the reaction of scum like him -- but he's way too dumb to see that.

    Replies: @snorlax

    Justine’s also a MoT.

    And I’m pretty sure he’s not too dumb to see that, seeing as he wrote a book arguing against the practice of public shaming.

    • Replies: @eah
    @snorlax

    Justine’s also a MoT.

    What's your evidence for that? -- as a surname, Sacco is very Italian.

    And I’m pretty sure he’s not too dumb to see that

    Why are you "pretty sure"? -- his book 'So You've Been Publicly Shamed' was published in 2015, about the same time the linked NYT article appeared -- he also gave a TED talk about this subject in 2015 (you can find it on Youtube; IMO he comes across as somewhat effeminate) -- so more than two years after Sacco's tweet, he's still calling it "stupid" -- why does he call her tweet "stupid"? -- what was "stupid" about it? -- answer: to him it was "stupid" because it led directly to adverse personal consequences for her: it led to an internet outrage mob, and ultimately to the loss of her job -- there is no other reason to see it as "stupid" -- the tweet itself was not "stupid" -- if it needs to be labeled, it was a mildly tasteless attempt at a joke (rather her style of humor it seems) -- so again to return to evidence: what is the evidence in all of the above that Ronson sees there is nothing "stupid" about the tweet? -- that the only "stupid" thing about that whole farce was the outrage ginned up by internet vigilantes, something he admits he used to be (which is alone pretty damning about him IMO, since no decent person should ever do something like that).

    Here instead of 13/50 we have 13/44:

    https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/images/basics/statistics/cdc-hiv-race-ethnicity-2016-700x641-medium.png

    Replies: @ThreeCranes

  97. @Paleo Liberal
    @syonredux

    I had some rather attractive chemistry professors in college. Smart as heck, too.

    There are plenty of attractive female scientists. The girl who was homecoming queen and head cheerleader at my high school is now a member of the National Academy of Sciences.

    And some of the female grad students I knew in grad school were rather attractive.

    In the old days Cal Tech had a reputation as being the place where the female post docs were both brilliant and hot as heck. There is a great bit in Joseph Wambaugh’s novel Delta Star when a good looking young cop finds himself at a party with hot post docs at Cal Tech, and he fails miserably at his attempts to pick some of them up.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @jon, @YetAnotherAnon, @L Woods, @Anonymous

    Cool story bro

  98. @Anon
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Sometimes the outdoorsy types age better than the hothouse orchids. And you don't have to worry about looking at a weird botoxy plastic surgery mess -- and paying for it.

    At any rate, the golden rule is, "Look at the mother." Look very closely at the mother.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal, @Jack D, @Autochthon, @Autochthon

    Very true.

    I knew a girl growing up who was a real ugly duckling hillbilly type. A lot of the girls in the hills are lovely when they are teens, decent looking in their 20s but well past their prime in their 40s. This girl’s mother looked fantastic in her 40s.

    I kept telling the girl she would be much better looking in her 40s and later than the other girls. I was right. She looked as good as her mother in her 40s.

    Now, this girl is in her early 60s and her mother is in the same old age home as my mother. Her mother looks really good for a woman in her early 80s. I think the daughter will as well.

  99. @syonredux
    For a lady prof in the sciences, not bad....

    https://magazine.williams.edu/files/2016/02/LuanaMajora_30.jpg

    Replies: @JimDandy, @R.G. Camara, @Paleo Liberal, @Sean, @The Wild Geese Howard, @slumber_j

    She somewhat resembles Olivia Williams, who played the teacher/crush in Rushmore.

    From Olivia Williams’s Wikipedia entry, weirdly:

    After filming The Postman, she spent time in Bolivia studying spectacled bears in the rainforest.

  100. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT

    "A guide to help high-ranking British officers spot right-wing extremists in their ranks has been leaked - and the signs include people calling themselves 'patriots' and making 'inaccurate generalisations about the Left'. "

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/05/29/16/14106516-7082855-image-m-191_1559144652832.jpg

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7082855/British-army-officers-told-soldiers-calling-patriots-extremists.html

    Replies: @Digital Samizdat, @PiltdownMan, @YetAnotherAnon

    Getting rid of the all the unwoke recruits sounds like a secret pacifist plot: What if they held a war, but all the soldiers were too douchey to fight it?

  101. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Anonymous

    No argument with your story on the screwed-up violin/guitar specialty-wood market, but what about Embraer and their regional, now "cross-over" (regional/mainline) jet production? I think they do pretty well with that, which is a pretty high-tech business.

    Funny story: I told my friend, who was about to take a trip, that his first leg was on the "jungle jet" as people affectionately called the E-135/145 series (the ones with 3 seats abreast). He told me that he got on the plane, and asked "Hey, is this the jungle jet?" The black Captain, black First Officer, and black flight attendant didn't say anything really.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Your pal has balls of Quebracho (another tropical/sub-tropical exotic super hard wood) and/or was stoned out of his mind when he got on that plane with that crew.

  102. @Almost Missouri
    @snorlax


    "I'm pretty certain it will NOT be pedophiles. That won't happen. That's the one thing everybody agrees is bad."
     
    Too late. It's already happening. See Barbra Streisand's remarks that Michael Jackson's pedo victims were "thrilled". Or the child drag queen phenomenon.

    Replies: @snorlax

    Barbra Streisand’s remarks

    For which she was furiously and hysterically denounced by SJWs, who launched petitions to remove her music from Spotify etc.

    Anyone (i.e. me, or Steve) who’s familiar with SJW circles knows they are extremely hostile to pedophiles, even more than the general population. One of their favorite pastimes is accusing people who make pedophilia-related jokes, or comment on the attractiveness of anyone below the age of 18, of being pedophiles, then organizing mass public shaming campaigns to get them fired.

    Many, many SJWs claim, with presumably varying degrees of veracity, to have been molested as children, which grants them major additional victim status. They are looking to increase their victim status, not decrease it or make it into oppressor status.

    Or the child drag queen phenomenon.

    Extremely creepy, but that’s trans-related, not pedophilia related.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @snorlax

    Is there anyone anymore unfamiliar with SJWs?

    My experience is SJW "pedophilia" = older man + younger woman. They are much more relaxed about about gay couples adopting a child rape object.

    In other words, they are only offended by what used to be normal. They aren't bothered so much by actual child rape.


    they are extremely hostile to pedophiles, even more than the general population
     
    That's why the SJWs have been all over publicizing and opposing the child rape gangs in UK towns and the child rape epidemics in Merkelized Europe, and supporting early and persistent exposer of child rape Tommy Robinson, right? Oh wait...


    Or the child drag queen phenomenon.
     
    Extremely creepy, but that’s trans-related, not pedophilia related.
     
    I'll take Intersectionality for $1000, Alex ...

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/drag-queen-storytime-convicted-pedophile-dressed-as-a-woman-reads-to-kids-at-public-library

    https://www.infowars.com/bombshell-another-drag-queen-story-hour-member-exposed-as-pedophile-report-says/

    Another day, another pedophile drag queen tranny LGBTQRSTwhatever ... .

    Replies: @Whiskey

  103. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT

    "A guide to help high-ranking British officers spot right-wing extremists in their ranks has been leaked - and the signs include people calling themselves 'patriots' and making 'inaccurate generalisations about the Left'. "

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/05/29/16/14106516-7082855-image-m-191_1559144652832.jpg

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7082855/British-army-officers-told-soldiers-calling-patriots-extremists.html

    Replies: @Digital Samizdat, @PiltdownMan, @YetAnotherAnon

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @PiltdownMan

    That article is from 2012. What are the chance that the village that this guy almost died for is not back under Taliban control? How is that "transitioning to Afghan Army control" going? Making a decent place out of Afghanistan is like trying to dig a hole in the water. If we had put all of that money and all of those lives and limbs in a bonfire it would have been just as effective.

    Replies: @Simply Simon

  104. @El Dato
    @Tiny Duck

    Woah I went to http://rezaaslan.com/ and couldn't withstand the garish ooze of promotion.


    Iranian-American a scholar of religious studies, writer, and television host
     
    Okay.

    Reza:


    This article about a panel I did w/ ⁦@jbouie at ⁦@WilliamsCollege is based on a lie written by some ⁩Jr prof named Luana Maroja who should be proud that her lie has now been picked up by Breitbart.
     
    > Forgets to say what lie that is.
    > People who only exist because of free speech demanding less of free speech of the sort they don't like.
    > Getting into various trouble with the Hindus

    Williams College Students Demand Censorship on Campus Because ‘Free Speech Harms’

    It's Forced Listening which harms.


    Faculty at Williams College are seeking to adopt the “Chicago principles,” which free speech advocates consider “the gold standard of free speech philosophy,” according to a report by Inside Higher Ed. The proposal has reportedly sparked backlash among students, who are demanding that speech be curtailed on campus.

    Williams College associate professor Luana S. Maroja and other professors circulated the faculty petition calling on the school to adopt the Chicago principles after Maroja had attended a panel discussion on free expression last semester — an experience in which the professor had noted was “appalling.”

    The panel included former CNN host Reza Aslan, who made bizarre statements, such as claiming that administrators should dictate what can and cannot be said on college campuses. Professor Maroja noted that Aslan’s statements had baffled her, adding that students had even cheered in response to the former CNN host’s remarks.

    “This nonsense was met with intense student applause,” said Maroja, “It was appalling.”
     

    I don't need a video to know how this looked:

    Free Speech ‘Meltdown’

    “Students were just screaming that we were trying to ‘kill them,’” Maroja said.

    The students had put together and brought with them a lengthy statement, which has since morphed into a counterpetition, that argued the Chicago principles -- and more broadly, unfettered free speech -- harms minority students.
     

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    Not to mention his other tweet about the biochemistry head of department at Williams College.

    You should be ashamed Maroja, whoever the hell you are.

    Even giving due consideration to Twitter’s culture of abusive exchange, this is one arrogant fella. Not unusual among Iranian exiles I’ve met, though. It’s that whole “we’re practically the Shah of Iran” thing.

  105. @Andy
    I wouldn't be surprised is the next target of the identitarian left is evolution itself. The blank slate view they espouse is incompatible with evolution and genetics

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Federalist

    They will be the new creationists.
    It’s just that the Creator will have to be a transgender, LGBetc., person of color,

  106. @Jack D
    @Anoln

    Her accent is normal for a Brazilian speaking English. You would sound retarded if you tried to speak Portuguese.

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex

    Is normal. I’m very exciting for back.

  107. @anon
    Christianity started this way. It was a ridiculous cult in Rome until the state elevated it to the national religion. When a cult takes charge all facts and reason have to get out of the way.
    The same thing is unfolding before our eyes today. The corporate state has decided to elevate the Sacred Black Bodies and Holy Vaginas cult into our national religion. The puny biology department doesn't stand a chance.
    In hindsight the age of Reason will seem like a beautiful but brief interlude in the long stupid history of man.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @Captain Tripps, @HA

    The corporate state has decided to elevate the Sacred Black Bodies and Holy Vaginas cult into our national religion.

    Don’t forget the Holy Anuses…

  108. @Tiny Duck
    Marina is a liar

    https://mobile.twitter.com/rezaaslan/status/1121176913995636737

    Also Trumps will be impeached

    Replies: @syonredux, @El Dato, @TWS

    Is she too dusky to be white? With the one drop rule in effect I think you’re pushing too close to the edge criticising a maybe black woman.

  109. @Anon
    EC Comics -- Haunt of Fear #13 -- Wolf Bait.

    The snarling, snapping grey-deaths leap up around the sleigh! One of them gashes the young officer's face.

    There is a way! The meat stopped them! One of us could stop them! It's only a few miles more.

    You're mad Ivan!

    He's right! It's one ... or all!

    Who? Who will go?

    It takes only a split second to make the decision. The people in the sleigh, like the animals outside, spring upon their victim ... lift the figure ... and toss it to the howling shadows.

    EEAAAAAAAAHHHH!

    And while the pack rips and tears at the sacrificed one, the sleigh speeds on toward the town ... and safety.

     

    https://d3nvbf5pqk2vjh.cloudfront.net/cgccomics/monthly_2018_06/E378C4BC-3022-4E5A-BC0F-2692282DEC69.thumb.jpeg.8f2111836aebad132773400a620b3a64.jpeg

    [Five more pages]

    https://d3nvbf5pqk2vjh.cloudfront.net/cgccomics/monthly_2018_06/0BC5B434-BE2B-46D8-9066-A85F046356D6.thumb.jpeg.68f2681bb80c7bcbf3b0cbe585d1492d.jpeg

    Full comic here:

    https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/435654-anyone-remember-this-story/

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @the one they call Desanex

    Drawn by the excellent Jack Davis.
    http://www.americanartarchives.com/davis,jack.htm

  110. @Anon
    Aha! This explains her sudden burst of activity:

    Four Faculty Receive Tenure
    https://magazine.williams.edu/2016/spring/notice/four-faculty-receive-tenure/

    Four Williams faculty members have been promoted to associate professor with tenure, effective July 1. 2016.

    Luana Maroja, biology. An evolutionary biologist, Maroja studies the evolution of barriers to gene exchange. Her research seeks to understand how reproductive isolation evolves and how lineages eventually become distinct. She teaches courses on evolution and genetics, and she recently received a grant from the Hellman Family Foundation. She serves on the ad-hoc Committee on Student Course Survey Scores.
     
    https://magazine.williams.edu/files/2016/02/LuanaMajora_30.jpg

    Replies: @El Dato, @WowJustWow

    Tenure protects academic freedom from the hoi polloi grabbing brooms and calling shenanigans, not from the rest of academe. Although the academe-to-hoi-polloi meme transmission mechanisms are much faster and more efficient than it used to be, so the distinction is becoming less important.

  111. I love the wolf troika picture. It’s sinister and classy like Darth Vader.

  112. @Days of Broken Arrows
    Someone needs to ask these students: If I.Q. is not inherited, then how do they explain why Ivy League donors to sperm banks are so sought after?

    If these kids really feel that way, when they get married someday and some husbands prove to be infertile, the wives should just have sex with the town drunks and/or small time crooks since genetics matter little.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @bomag

    just have sex with [whatever] since genetics matter little

    Aren’t we kind-of there now?

  113. So as far as evaluating talent and hotties etc where is Heartiste now? Have they got it up enough to put on their own website away from wordpress?

    Roosh thread on this de-platforming. https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-73132-page-8.html

  114. @Lagertha
    I'm kind of enjoying Progressive (that's what all liberals want to be called now) professors at elite colleges being told to go to hell by their own students! It is such sweet schadenfreude...to think that they didn't realize that all those Leftist ideas (multiculturalism/diversity is our strength blahblah) did not actually, sink into (years of indoctrination) the callow brains of teenagers, later college students, is really hilarious. You reap what you sow. We should start counting how many professors are complaining (and where) about this per month! hahaa

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Almost Missouri, @Xytil

    Yeah, I too think it’s hilarious.
    These scumy places scam naive teenagers into mountains of debt. They are hotbeds of the most offensive lies ever forced upon normal and decent people. And now their beloved “scientific method” (aka common sense) is being challenged by their own BS to the point that universities are becoming untenable?
    L.M.F.A.O!
    R.O.F.L!
    It’s gonna get worse.
    And it should.
    Academics are universally cowards who don’t have the stomach to fight for principles, because these effeminate and over privileged parasites are too far invested in their prestige and status to take any risks.
    I hope they all fail.

  115. @anon
    Christianity started this way. It was a ridiculous cult in Rome until the state elevated it to the national religion. When a cult takes charge all facts and reason have to get out of the way.
    The same thing is unfolding before our eyes today. The corporate state has decided to elevate the Sacred Black Bodies and Holy Vaginas cult into our national religion. The puny biology department doesn't stand a chance.
    In hindsight the age of Reason will seem like a beautiful but brief interlude in the long stupid history of man.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @Captain Tripps, @HA

    No need to take a gratuitous swipe at Christianity. It has its faults; all belief systems do. But Rome was anything but a virtuous utopia of logic and reason before it became the state religion. Prior to that, you had many small pagan bizarro cults of varying influence. Rome at the time of Constantine was an absolute monarchy, where the Emperor was literally part God. Even at its republican apex (somewhere between the end of the Third Punic War and the Rise of Marius and Sulla) Rome was always just a place where might was right, the oligarchs – the Senate – ruled, and the strong did what they wanted while the weak suffered what they must.

  116. OT:

  117. @jon
    @Paleo Liberal


    In the old days Cal Tech had a reputation as being the place where the female post docs were both brilliant and hot as heck.

     

    Apparently, times have changed:
    http://www.cpa.caltech.edu/

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

    Maybe PL had a bit of a drinking problem in his younger days? Or has a serious geek girl fetish like me?

  118. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Paleo Liberal

    UK medical students (more than 50% female at present) are pretty bright, not an unattractive bunch, and I've seen some lovely lady doctors.

    The UK TV show "University Challenge", one of the few things I watch, is an interesting place to study the brains/beauty intersection in both males and females at the top end of the brains spectrum. In males the nerds outnumber the Chadly types maybe 3 to 1, it's more like 50/50 between nerdettes and Stacys.

    Here's the Oxford medical student and classic English rose Emma Johnson, who set viewers tweeting a lot in 2017.

    https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article10067643.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/University-Challenge.jpg

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/20/590x/secondary/Emma-Johnson-872001.jpg

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Xytil, @Jack D

    Anyone who refers to an English woman as an “English rose” really needs to have their balls twisted off and slammed against the undefeated wall of ageing femininity.
    Oh wait! That’s exactly what happens to such cucks.
    There is a God!

  119. @snorlax
    OT: To answer Steve's question
    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1133534038147325953
    it's "fat empowerment."
    https://twitter.com/GilletteVenus/status/1113565570354409473

    Replies: @jon, @Mr McKenna, @Almost Missouri, @MEH 0910, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Reg Cæsar

  120. @Anon
    A concise history of iSteve Russian sleigh references

    JANUARY 17, 2019 - Is the NYT Gearing Up to Watson Geneticist David Reich Too?

    ... Russians peasants out of his sleigh ideologically to save his operation...

    JULY 24, 2018 - NYT: Beware! "Members of the 'Human Biodiversity Movement' Enthusiastically Tweet and Blog"

    .... Similarly, if you see a sleigh full of Russian peasants being... of the back of the sleigh and is devoured by the... the other peasants in the sleigh time to get away, you...

    AUGUST 16, 2018 - Did the Royal Society Throw Hobbes from the Russian Sleigh?

    A reader writes: You might get a kick out of this passage from Noel Malcolm's Aspects of Hobbes (2002), pp. 22-23: "Since Hobbes had, by the late 1650s, acquired the enmity of three leading scientists, it is not surprising that there was some reluctance to...

    MARCH 23, 2018 - Reich in NYT: "How Genetics Is Changing Our Understanding of 'Race'"

    ... set of Russians in a sleigh pursued by hungry wolves across... of Russians out of the sleigh. To understand why it is...

    MAY 19, 2017 - More Responses to Vox Attack on Charles Murray

    ... tactic that I call Siberian-sleigh-pursued-by-wolves. The idea... throw one person in your sleigh out for the wolves to...

    DECEMBER 1, 2002 - Republicans Are Now Hoping Against Hope That Just...

    ... tossed out of the sleigh (the legendary Russian sleigh being chased by...

    OCTOBER 12, 2012 - "How Deep Are the Roots of Economic Development?"

    ... the Russian peasants in a sleigh pursued by wolves who periodically...

    JUNE 8, 2005 - Now We Know Why Garance Franke-Ruta Smeared Me Last Year: So She Could Steal My Ideas Without Attribution!

    ... honest than themselves from the sleigh. But I wasn't devious enough...

    DECEMBER 24, 2004 - The American Prospect Can't Stand the Heat and Wants Everybody Else to Get Out of the Kitchen:

    ... are closing in on the sleigh, throw somebody even more politically...

    DECEMBER 1, 2002 - Anita Hill All Over Again: The Lott Imbroglio...

    ... the Russian Peasants in the Sleigh strategy of occasionally tossing one...

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Dieter Kief, @Captain Tripps, @obwandiyag, @JMcG

    If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it…

  121. anonymous[112] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    @PiltdownMan

    She’s too cute. Never underestimate the power of the White Knight.

    Name one hottie that has ever been Watsoned from a good job.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Felix Krull, @R.G. Camara, @Anon, @snorlax, @anonymous

    Megyn Kelly was kicked off of the Today Show or something like that for saying that people should be able to wear ethnic costumes for Halloween.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @anonymous

    Possible, but I’d confine Watsoning to getting fired for telling the truth about a scientific matter, not a politically incorrect opinion.

  122. Sadly, Ms. Maroja does not appear at ratemyprofessors.com. Was wondering how many chili peppers she got, but then learned that the site removed the Hotness rating after “a chorus of outrage from both male and female academics” last year.

    We can’t have anything fun anymore.

  123. @snorlax
    @Almost Missouri


    Barbra Streisand’s remarks
     
    For which she was furiously and hysterically denounced by SJWs, who launched petitions to remove her music from Spotify etc.

    Anyone (i.e. me, or Steve) who's familiar with SJW circles knows they are extremely hostile to pedophiles, even more than the general population. One of their favorite pastimes is accusing people who make pedophilia-related jokes, or comment on the attractiveness of anyone below the age of 18, of being pedophiles, then organizing mass public shaming campaigns to get them fired.

    Many, many SJWs claim, with presumably varying degrees of veracity, to have been molested as children, which grants them major additional victim status. They are looking to increase their victim status, not decrease it or make it into oppressor status.

    Or the child drag queen phenomenon.
     
    Extremely creepy, but that's trans-related, not pedophilia related.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Is there anyone anymore unfamiliar with SJWs?

    My experience is SJW “pedophilia” = older man + younger woman. They are much more relaxed about about gay couples adopting a child rape object.

    In other words, they are only offended by what used to be normal. They aren’t bothered so much by actual child rape.

    they are extremely hostile to pedophiles, even more than the general population

    That’s why the SJWs have been all over publicizing and opposing the child rape gangs in UK towns and the child rape epidemics in Merkelized Europe, and supporting early and persistent exposer of child rape Tommy Robinson, right? Oh wait…

    Or the child drag queen phenomenon.

    Extremely creepy, but that’s trans-related, not pedophilia related.

    I’ll take Intersectionality for $1000, Alex …

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/drag-queen-storytime-convicted-pedophile-dressed-as-a-woman-reads-to-kids-at-public-library

    https://www.infowars.com/bombshell-another-drag-queen-story-hour-member-exposed-as-pedophile-report-says/

    Another day, another pedophile drag queen tranny LGBTQRSTwhatever … .

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @Almost Missouri

    Yeah Steve is wrong here. Gays have enormous power since White women adore them. So gay dudes screwing pre teens will be ok. Moby dating Natalie Portman is pedophilia. Once his fame cools.

    A rocker screwing a 16 year old is ok as long as he retains his fame. A nerd asking a women for coffee in an elevator is sexual assault.

    This is a female world and female double standards for men apply. Gays and famous Alpha dudes have at it. Also Muslims and rappers. A White guy looks at a woman that's sexual assault right there.

    This why White men cannot afford niceness. Or civ nat get along. If we had Jim Crow White women would respond accordingly. Women despise weakness and their men either hold the whip hand over others or get replaced.

  124. @t
    OT: Report finds that black Students in Chicago are the most likely to attend schools with poor rankings:

    https://wgntv.com/2019/05/28/are-chicago-public-schools-making-the-grade/

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Forbes, @BigDickNick

    I’d suggest that the school building doesn’t/can’t have a poor ranking–it’s the students themselves who generate the poor ranking. As another has titled a book, “Bad Students, Not Bad Schools.”

  125. @snorlax
    @Lot

    Justine Sacco of #HasJustineLandedYet

    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/571687441792434176/37ZFFb8k.jpeg

    https://userscontent2.emaze.com/images/86d6b35c-68da-4de7-9d0e-4da854e9271c/c172f28438953e2284dad126e696f57a.jpg

    Replies: @eah, @Moses

    Big hoop earrings always mean DTF.

  126. Anonymous[254] • Disclaimer says:
    @eah
    Biological Male Wins a Women’s NCAA Track Championship

    A biological male -- Franklin Pierce University runner CeCe Telfer -- won an NCAA national championship over the weekend...CeCe is a male who identifies as a woman...Telfer previously ran a variety of events for Franklin Pierce’s men’s team, during most of which time he went by the first name Craig, according to school records...Telfer competed on FPU’s men’s track team as recently as January 2018...As long as he suppressed his testosterone levels for one year, he can complete as a woman, according to NCAA rules.

    https://i0.wp.com/www.independentsentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/tefler.jpg

    Replies: @eah, @Anonymous

    All to the good.

  127. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Paleo Liberal

    UK medical students (more than 50% female at present) are pretty bright, not an unattractive bunch, and I've seen some lovely lady doctors.

    The UK TV show "University Challenge", one of the few things I watch, is an interesting place to study the brains/beauty intersection in both males and females at the top end of the brains spectrum. In males the nerds outnumber the Chadly types maybe 3 to 1, it's more like 50/50 between nerdettes and Stacys.

    Here's the Oxford medical student and classic English rose Emma Johnson, who set viewers tweeting a lot in 2017.

    https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article10067643.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/University-Challenge.jpg

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/20/590x/secondary/Emma-Johnson-872001.jpg

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Xytil, @Jack D

    As someone else said, she is good looking for a doctor. “Doctor hot”. As a Hollywood actress or a fashion model she wouldn’t merit a second glance.

    • Disagree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    @Jack D


    As someone else said, she is good looking for a doctor. “Doctor hot”. As a Hollywood actress or a fashion model she wouldn’t merit a second glance.
     
    You know how some people have yellow fever? Well - some people have Nordic fever, i.e. if it's Nordic-looking, it's mackable. I'd say even for a doctor, she's below average. It's not that I have high standards - she's just very ordinary-looking.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  128. @Anon
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Sometimes the outdoorsy types age better than the hothouse orchids. And you don't have to worry about looking at a weird botoxy plastic surgery mess -- and paying for it.

    At any rate, the golden rule is, "Look at the mother." Look very closely at the mother.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal, @Jack D, @Autochthon, @Autochthon

    Being in the sun is really bad for your skin in the long run. If you are an outdoorsy type you had better wear a lot of sunscreen and hats or you are going to look like a prune when you are old.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Escher
    @Jack D

    Agree. And that applies to Asians as well. Have seen a few beach bunnies of Chinese descent who looked way older than their peers.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @Autochthon
    @Jack D

    Wow! Really?! Say, you should get the word out. They should have been teaching this stuff to children in elementary school for fifty years. There should be announcements in the public interest and campaigns to ensure awareness. Every parent should reinforce the importance of sunscreen. Maybe we could even get Georgia's own great Mary Schmich to immortalise the idea in an epic essay.

    I cannot thank you enough for sharing this esoteric wisdom. For now, though, I'm going to pause and enjoy a healthy cigarette to calm my shock.

  129. @Anon
    She got her BS and MS in Brazil. I presume they fed their students less SJW nonsense there. She's also Chair of the Biochem department, so it would take a dean or the college prexy to oust her, and she's in the position to make life rough for her colleagues in her department if they try to screw her over.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Anon

    An often observed paradox is that in places that are the LEAST woke ( Brazil, Iran, Romania, etc.) universities tend to graduate a lot of women in hard STEM fields (math,biochemistry, etc.) while in the woke paradises of the US and Western Europe the women take up womyn’s studies and complain about the fact that there are not more women in STEM fields.

    • Agree: Andy
    • Replies: @Romanian
    @Jack D


    An often observed paradox is that in places that are the LEAST woke ( Brazil, Iran, Romania, etc.) universities tend to graduate a lot of women in hard STEM fields (math,biochemistry, etc.) while in the woke paradises of the US and Western Europe the women take up womyn’s studies and complain about the fact that there are not more women in STEM fields.
     
    I have wondered about that. Escaping poverty focuses the mind I guess. And the women don't change careers at higher rates than the men after they graduate. I always thought, in the case of the Communist areas, that the Commies simply had an ideology suited to the mobilization of resources for the struggle and the women were simply another resource, while the jobs themselves had high prestige and income so if everyone was going to be a working parent anyway, might as well get with the programme. The workplaces are pretty un-PC, either way, unless they are owned by foreign corporations and directly staffed with a certain kind of expat or our growing PC class. I've had first hand accounts of "interventions" for PC related complaints on creating a hostile working environment.
  130. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT

    "A guide to help high-ranking British officers spot right-wing extremists in their ranks has been leaked - and the signs include people calling themselves 'patriots' and making 'inaccurate generalisations about the Left'. "

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/05/29/16/14106516-7082855-image-m-191_1559144652832.jpg

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7082855/British-army-officers-told-soldiers-calling-patriots-extremists.html

    Replies: @Digital Samizdat, @PiltdownMan, @YetAnotherAnon

    Apparently people who mention the word “traitors” are suspect.

    ‘Treason doth never prosper, what’s the reason? Why, if it prosper, none dare call it treason.’

    https://www.historytoday.com/archive/death-sir-john-harington

  131. @Anon
    It's not possible to come up with a evolutionary model for how the human species became smarter than the apes unless:

    1) Intelligence is a heritable trait.
    2) It confers a Darwinian advantage on those who have it.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Jack D

    Stop confusing us with your white man’s tricknology. You are just using it to rationalize your racism and this makes us feel unsafe.

  132. @R.G. Camara
    @syonredux

    It may explain how she's risen so far in "science" to teach at a prestigious college in the U.S.

    It also might explain how unprepared she will be for the pushback that will follow. Likely most of her career has been a wide-berth free pass/pat on the back/you go girl! for her and all her ideas, so any resistance to her argument will bemuse and confuse her, and the ferocity of the resistance to her argument will frighten her back into line. Especially once she got into the U.S.

    Few people can withstand the full bore of Leftist Religious Condemnation, and of that group, almost none are female.

    P.S. She looks like one of those female scientists you'll see overquoted and over-interviewed in NOVA episodes. If she gets back on the reservation and hugs it out with Skip Gates she be a regular when they do their biology-based episodes.

    Replies: @Jack D

    You have zero evidence for what you are saying. She appears to be a real scientist and a person with a lot of character. Maybe she won’t be able to withstand the pressure but her parents withstood actual torture by the Brazilian dictatorship so I think she is equipped to take on a bunch of American SJWs who are mostly hot air.

    Here is the rare academic who is brave enough to say and do the right thing and you write her off preemptively. With friends like you, who needs enemies?

    • Agree: PiltdownMan, ic1000
    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @Jack D

    lol. White knight alert!

    My evidence is that she is a woman and this is how they behave and this is how our society treats them in The Current Year.

    Seriously, how many times does Lucy need to pull the football on you, Charlie Brown? Trusting that this female "scientist" will in anyway be on your side or be an ally is as laughably delusional as believing that "racism" holding blacks down and not IQ and inbred social behavior.

    Take the red pill on women, dude. And swallow it all the way down.

  133. @snorlax
    OT: To answer Steve's question
    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1133534038147325953
    it's "fat empowerment."
    https://twitter.com/GilletteVenus/status/1113565570354409473

    Replies: @jon, @Mr McKenna, @Almost Missouri, @MEH 0910, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Reg Cæsar

    “Gillette Venus”– That ought to give the marketers at P&G Gillette division something to think about in terms of a new poster child.

  134. @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsCuhYZpWLY

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    OK, I like Neil Young, and as you may know, I’m a big youtube-embed guy, but I don’t get the point here … could be on my end …??

    While I have your attention, though, Steve, please tell me if that Village Valley snail-mail address is a good, secure one (say for a 8×11 envelope) for receiving funds.

  135. @PiltdownMan
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I wonder this guy makes of all this stuff, assuming he's still in the service and not retired...

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/9571522/Soldier-who-led-Afghanistan-bayonet-charge-into-hail-of-bullets-honoured.html

    or these guys...

    https://www.scotsman.com/news/world/argylls-fight-hand-to-hand-in-iraq-1-1394156

    Replies: @Jack D

    That article is from 2012. What are the chance that the village that this guy almost died for is not back under Taliban control? How is that “transitioning to Afghan Army control” going? Making a decent place out of Afghanistan is like trying to dig a hole in the water. If we had put all of that money and all of those lives and limbs in a bonfire it would have been just as effective.

    • Replies: @Simply Simon
    @Jack D

    If we had put all the money we spent on wars in Vietnam and Iraq on a bonfire it would also have been just as effective. But then a case could be made that the same principle applies to all the wars we have engaged in. Unfortunately the baser instincts of mankind have prevailed as best I can ascertain.

  136. @Anoln
    @Jack D dug up this article about the professor:

    This scientist took on student activists who cheered for censorship. Now she’s refuting their ‘violence’ claims.
    https://www.thecollegefix.com/this-scientist-took-on-student-activists-who-cheered-for-censorship-now-shes-refuting-their-violence-claims/

    Here's something she wrote for the school newspaper:

    Refuting claims of institutional violence: Analyzing evidence of racism at the College
    https://williamsrecord.com/2019/05/refuting-claims-of-institutional-violence-analyzing-evidence-of-racism-at-the-college/

    The way she listens to what they say, analyzes it, develops a simple research protocol to investigate it, finds that it's false, and reports her findings in the school newspaper: That sort of stuff causes their heads to explode.

    Also, the fact that she is somewhat intersectional helps her: female, hispanic, although whitish in the Brazilian system of clinal race. She's also very calm and fearless. It's hard to get under her skin.

    https://whyevolutionistrue.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/luana-web.jpg

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Andy, @Marco, @Anonymous

    This is nitpicking, I know, but Brazilians are not really Hispanic, since they speak Portuguese, not Spanish. I suppose Latino would cover Brazilians as Portuguese is a language that descends from Latin.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Andy

    Brazilians, like Portuguese, Spaniards, and the Irish, are all Iberians. They are all descended from the Celtiberian peoples who suffered notorious oppression both from Africa (viz, Carthage) and from Rome.

    All Irish people can and should in totally good conscience check off any and all "Hispanics" boxes and claim those sweet, sweet, AA bennies.

    Also, since the Irish were among the first enslaved people in the New World, they can legitimately claim status as ADoS (American Descendants of Slaves). So the Micks deserve all the AA goodies that Africans lay claim to as well. If Jews can lay claim to Spanish/EU citizenship on the strength of the (entirely deserved) expulsion in 1492, there's a much better case for the Irish claiming all sorts of free stuff.

    Plus, the Irish were enslaved by Cromwell, who was financed by the Jews. Which means...

    Reparations!

    Oh what a tangled web we weave....

    , @Prester John
    @Andy

    If language is the measure, then I would wonder if "Latino" also includes Italian, French and Romanian people since THEIR languages similarly descended from Latin (Romanian, by the way, sounds a lot like Italian).

    Not being a wiseacre here--ahm' jes' askin'.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Marco, @Romanian

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Andy


    This is nitpicking, I know, but Brazilians are not really Hispanic, since they speak Portuguese, not Spanish.
     
    Brazilian surnames often look Spanish because they actually are. One of the most famous, Villa-Lobos, originates in Spain, but that family has been slowly drifting into the Lusosphere for hundreds of years, and I don't know how Spanish the composer's ancestry is.

    My half-brother had a German surname, but was only about 3% of that ancestry. It was almost all in the male line from colonial times. As in the US, where many Schmitts, Muellers, and Zimmermanns became Smiths, Millers, and Carpenters, Spanish-Brazilian names may have been altered to native spellings.

    Spain was one of the top sources of immigration to Brazil:

    https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imigra%C3%A7%C3%A3o_espanhola_no_Brasil
    https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inmigraci%C3%B3n_espa%C3%B1ola_en_Brasil

    Segundo outra pesquisa, de 1999, do sociólogo, ex-presidente do Instituto Brasileiro de Geografia e Estatística (IBGE), Simon Schwartzman, 4,4% dos brasileiros entrevistados afirmaram ter ancestralidade espanhola, percentual que, numa população de cerca de 200 milhões de brasileiros, representaria quase 9 milhões de descendentes.
     
    If you can't believe Simon Schwartzman, who can you believe?

    Replies: @Marco

  137. Anon[285] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    She got her BS and MS in Brazil. I presume they fed their students less SJW nonsense there. She's also Chair of the Biochem department, so it would take a dean or the college prexy to oust her, and she's in the position to make life rough for her colleagues in her department if they try to screw her over.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Anon

    I suspect that colleges in Brazil, much like those in Europe, teach their students only what is needed for their future job (in this case, chemistry and biology) rather than generic high school “maths” (arithmetics, really) and “writing” (equivalent to sixth grade composition in UK). Rather than being drilled into “? + 3 = 5”, “write 2,000 words on your last holiday trip”, or “argue for 5 minutes that BN are precious Bodies”, she developed these skills in secondary and high school. Similar to the majority of the country, who didn’t go to college, got herself informaton from wherever she wanted, and built her political views in her spare time.

    For better or worse, the Komsomol meetings did not require the “? + 3 = 5” and “write 2,000 words on your last holiday trip” parts, Soviet high schools being able to prepare their students at an younger age.

    Also, I suspect Maroja was tested on biology and chemistry even to start at the college. It’s very likely her class did not include any athletes. Her school’s coaches could not do anything to get any idiots admitted. Whom would Brazilian college teach “? + 3 = 5” and civics, if everyone went past that before growing pubes?

  138. @bomag
    @Anoln


    There is something off about her, beyond the Portuguese accent. She almost sounds retarded. But she obviously isn’t ...
     
    Very much the same speech pattern as Temple Grandin; so I'd guess she's a bit autistic, which probably also explains why she doesn't have much patience for those mouthing political niceties.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter

    I think it would be a challenge (even for the yummiest of stud muffins) to get her motor running and her oil temp up enough for a romp around the bedroom.

  139. eah says:
    @snorlax
    @eah

    Justine's also a MoT.

    And I'm pretty sure he's not too dumb to see that, seeing as he wrote a book arguing against the practice of public shaming.

    Replies: @eah

    Justine’s also a MoT.

    What’s your evidence for that? — as a surname, Sacco is very Italian.

    And I’m pretty sure he’s not too dumb to see that

    Why are you “pretty sure”? — his book ‘So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed’ was published in 2015, about the same time the linked NYT article appeared — he also gave a TED talk about this subject in 2015 (you can find it on Youtube; IMO he comes across as somewhat effeminate) — so more than two years after Sacco’s tweet, he’s still calling it “stupid” — why does he call her tweet “stupid”? — what was “stupid” about it? — answer: to him it was “stupid” because it led directly to adverse personal consequences for her: it led to an internet outrage mob, and ultimately to the loss of her job — there is no other reason to see it as “stupid” — the tweet itself was not “stupid” — if it needs to be labeled, it was a mildly tasteless attempt at a joke (rather her style of humor it seems) — so again to return to evidence: what is the evidence in all of the above that Ronson sees there is nothing “stupid” about the tweet? — that the only “stupid” thing about that whole farce was the outrage ginned up by internet vigilantes, something he admits he used to be (which is alone pretty damning about him IMO, since no decent person should ever do something like that).

    Here instead of 13/50 we have 13/44:

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    @eah

    So for population of 62% White, 16% Hispanic, 12.5% Afro, then for one White case of HIV there are 3.7 Hispanic and 8.4 Afro. What are they doing that produces these numbers?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  140. The problem with the complaint is that the instructor never mentions the reputable research, most of it from researchers who contend the opposite and cite the data to support it.

    Since the instructor claims to lean on the science one would think in all fairness, references would be made to counter contentions —

    Nevermind how one weeds out environmental factors many of which are themselves subjective. The instructor contends her position as if it is science fact, but other researchers including those presented on this site in detail actually and repeatedly contradict the over whelming position on subject human existence. It is a definite – well duh. How much is uncertain and leans against biology being the primary factor – save perhaps for capacity.

    Tougher issue for is the intelligence of importing a foreigner to teach objective material.

  141. correction:

    Tougher issue for me is the intelligence of importing a foreigner to teach objective material.

  142. @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon

    As someone else said, she is good looking for a doctor. "Doctor hot". As a Hollywood actress or a fashion model she wouldn't merit a second glance.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

    As someone else said, she is good looking for a doctor. “Doctor hot”. As a Hollywood actress or a fashion model she wouldn’t merit a second glance.

    You know how some people have yellow fever? Well – some people have Nordic fever, i.e. if it’s Nordic-looking, it’s mackable. I’d say even for a doctor, she’s below average. It’s not that I have high standards – she’s just very ordinary-looking.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Johann Ricke

    "Well – some people have Nordic fever "

    Well a lot of Brits ARE Nordic, what with Norman, Saxon, Dane and Viking, so it's not surprising they like an Anglo-Saxon princess like Emma (the Saxon face is squarer than the more northern Nordics, who tend to be longer headed).

    "she’s just very ordinary-looking"

    She's exquisite - and also very very bright. Still, the more people who share your view, the better for those who don't.

  143. Anonymous[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paleo Liberal
    @syonredux

    I had some rather attractive chemistry professors in college. Smart as heck, too.

    There are plenty of attractive female scientists. The girl who was homecoming queen and head cheerleader at my high school is now a member of the National Academy of Sciences.

    And some of the female grad students I knew in grad school were rather attractive.

    In the old days Cal Tech had a reputation as being the place where the female post docs were both brilliant and hot as heck. There is a great bit in Joseph Wambaugh’s novel Delta Star when a good looking young cop finds himself at a party with hot post docs at Cal Tech, and he fails miserably at his attempts to pick some of them up.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @jon, @YetAnotherAnon, @L Woods, @Anonymous

    “The girl who was homecoming queen and head cheerleader at my high school is now a member of the National Academy of Sciences.”

    There are plenty of women who don’t belong in the NAS. The push for “diversity” has been ongoing for decades and is now accelerating even faster. A relative of mine who’s a member of the NAS has personally seen women agitating for unqualified women to be elected. The NAS has recently been pushing changes that will fully destroy the meritocracy of the institution, much like the push for “diversity” in the STEM fields will destroy the quality of science.

    As for looks, I know a professor at one of the top Ivy business schools and she was a real hottie when she was younger. Now she’s a never married, middle aged, fat, ugly, SJW cat lady. Bossy as heck.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    Not to worry! There's another country, where scientific research is pursued eagerly, especially in genetics, and where diversity hiring is kept to a minimum, especially in science and the military. And they've got more than a billion people. Whatever we're not discovering, I'm sure those other guys can take up our slack.

  144. @Anoln
    @Jack D dug up this article about the professor:

    This scientist took on student activists who cheered for censorship. Now she’s refuting their ‘violence’ claims.
    https://www.thecollegefix.com/this-scientist-took-on-student-activists-who-cheered-for-censorship-now-shes-refuting-their-violence-claims/

    Here's something she wrote for the school newspaper:

    Refuting claims of institutional violence: Analyzing evidence of racism at the College
    https://williamsrecord.com/2019/05/refuting-claims-of-institutional-violence-analyzing-evidence-of-racism-at-the-college/

    The way she listens to what they say, analyzes it, develops a simple research protocol to investigate it, finds that it's false, and reports her findings in the school newspaper: That sort of stuff causes their heads to explode.

    Also, the fact that she is somewhat intersectional helps her: female, hispanic, although whitish in the Brazilian system of clinal race. She's also very calm and fearless. It's hard to get under her skin.

    https://whyevolutionistrue.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/luana-web.jpg

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Andy, @Marco, @Anonymous

    She is not hispanic. She is latina, but not hispanic.
    We Brazilians are not hispanics.
    Portuguese != Spanish.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Marco


    She is not hispanic. She is latina, but not hispanic.
    We Brazilians are not hispanics.
    Portuguese != Spanish.
     
    I actually like the Portuguese of Rio and the darker places to the north better than the Teutonic south's, and Portugal's, precisely because it diverges from Spanish all the more.

    That a T often sounds like ch can be difficult to remember at first, but that's Porchuguese for you!
  145. There is, of course, a long history of charlatans who have cited dubious “science” as proof that certain racial and ethnic groups are genetically superior to others.

    Has there ever been a case in which there has been a gross mismatch between average IQ and the society’s performance?

    In other words, is there a nation in Africa which when measured has an average IQ on par with Japan, but creates a society resembling the Sub-saharan average? Or has the reverse ever been shown to be true?

    I’m excepting a situation like Apartheid South Africa where there is a discrete ruling class with supreme powers which has a measurably higher IQ than the masses it governs.

    In my understanding, measurements of IQ always simply serve to confirm the obvious.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    And I suppose your observation is "scientific."

    Hardehar. You know nothing.

    There are almost infinite variables in this discussion. And you dispense with . . . all of them!

    Replies: @Alec Leamas

    , @snorlax
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)


    Has there ever been a case in which there has been a gross mismatch between average IQ and the society’s performance?
     
    Perform below IQ: China, Southeast Asia, fmr. USSR except the Baltics and Central Asia, the Balkans, the Southern Cone (Argentina + Chile + Uruguay), Cuba, Afghanistan. All the result of crackpot far-left economics and/or limited interaction with Western European culture.

    Perform above IQ (w/o ethnically-distinct high-IQ ruling class): Gulf Arabs, Bermuda, Costa Rica, Kerala, Botswana, Ghana, Kenya. Extraction-based economies and/or (almost) never involved in wars.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Romanian, @obwandiyag

  146. @Almost Missouri
    @snorlax

    Is there anyone anymore unfamiliar with SJWs?

    My experience is SJW "pedophilia" = older man + younger woman. They are much more relaxed about about gay couples adopting a child rape object.

    In other words, they are only offended by what used to be normal. They aren't bothered so much by actual child rape.


    they are extremely hostile to pedophiles, even more than the general population
     
    That's why the SJWs have been all over publicizing and opposing the child rape gangs in UK towns and the child rape epidemics in Merkelized Europe, and supporting early and persistent exposer of child rape Tommy Robinson, right? Oh wait...


    Or the child drag queen phenomenon.
     
    Extremely creepy, but that’s trans-related, not pedophilia related.
     
    I'll take Intersectionality for $1000, Alex ...

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/drag-queen-storytime-convicted-pedophile-dressed-as-a-woman-reads-to-kids-at-public-library

    https://www.infowars.com/bombshell-another-drag-queen-story-hour-member-exposed-as-pedophile-report-says/

    Another day, another pedophile drag queen tranny LGBTQRSTwhatever ... .

    Replies: @Whiskey

    Yeah Steve is wrong here. Gays have enormous power since White women adore them. So gay dudes screwing pre teens will be ok. Moby dating Natalie Portman is pedophilia. Once his fame cools.

    A rocker screwing a 16 year old is ok as long as he retains his fame. A nerd asking a women for coffee in an elevator is sexual assault.

    This is a female world and female double standards for men apply. Gays and famous Alpha dudes have at it. Also Muslims and rappers. A White guy looks at a woman that’s sexual assault right there.

    This why White men cannot afford niceness. Or civ nat get along. If we had Jim Crow White women would respond accordingly. Women despise weakness and their men either hold the whip hand over others or get replaced.

  147. @t
    OT: Report finds that black Students in Chicago are the most likely to attend schools with poor rankings:

    https://wgntv.com/2019/05/28/are-chicago-public-schools-making-the-grade/

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Forbes, @BigDickNick

    Disabled children most likely to be on below average performing sports teams. Very unfair.

  148. @jon
    @syonredux

    You fed the troll, that's a demerit.

    Replies: @syonredux

    TD’s not a troll. He’s parodying SJWs.

  149. Anonymous[206] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anoln
    @Jack D dug up this article about the professor:

    This scientist took on student activists who cheered for censorship. Now she’s refuting their ‘violence’ claims.
    https://www.thecollegefix.com/this-scientist-took-on-student-activists-who-cheered-for-censorship-now-shes-refuting-their-violence-claims/

    Here's something she wrote for the school newspaper:

    Refuting claims of institutional violence: Analyzing evidence of racism at the College
    https://williamsrecord.com/2019/05/refuting-claims-of-institutional-violence-analyzing-evidence-of-racism-at-the-college/

    The way she listens to what they say, analyzes it, develops a simple research protocol to investigate it, finds that it's false, and reports her findings in the school newspaper: That sort of stuff causes their heads to explode.

    Also, the fact that she is somewhat intersectional helps her: female, hispanic, although whitish in the Brazilian system of clinal race. She's also very calm and fearless. It's hard to get under her skin.

    https://whyevolutionistrue.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/luana-web.jpg

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Andy, @Marco, @Anonymous

    She’s less Hispania, more Lusitania, and in a few ways at that. Chances of her becoming a big shot priestess in celebrity academia with airport books and viral TED talks are certainly de minimis

  150. @Andy
    @Anoln

    This is nitpicking, I know, but Brazilians are not really Hispanic, since they speak Portuguese, not Spanish. I suppose Latino would cover Brazilians as Portuguese is a language that descends from Latin.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Prester John, @Reg Cæsar

    Brazilians, like Portuguese, Spaniards, and the Irish, are all Iberians. They are all descended from the Celtiberian peoples who suffered notorious oppression both from Africa (viz, Carthage) and from Rome.

    All Irish people can and should in totally good conscience check off any and all “Hispanics” boxes and claim those sweet, sweet, AA bennies.

    Also, since the Irish were among the first enslaved people in the New World, they can legitimately claim status as ADoS (American Descendants of Slaves). So the Micks deserve all the AA goodies that Africans lay claim to as well. If Jews can lay claim to Spanish/EU citizenship on the strength of the (entirely deserved) expulsion in 1492, there’s a much better case for the Irish claiming all sorts of free stuff.

    Plus, the Irish were enslaved by Cromwell, who was financed by the Jews. Which means…

    Reparations!

    Oh what a tangled web we weave….

  151. @Andy
    @Anoln

    This is nitpicking, I know, but Brazilians are not really Hispanic, since they speak Portuguese, not Spanish. I suppose Latino would cover Brazilians as Portuguese is a language that descends from Latin.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Prester John, @Reg Cæsar

    If language is the measure, then I would wonder if “Latino” also includes Italian, French and Romanian people since THEIR languages similarly descended from Latin (Romanian, by the way, sounds a lot like Italian).

    Not being a wiseacre here–ahm’ jes’ askin’.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Prester John

    English also has a lot of influence from Latin/French.

    Replies: @Romanian

    , @Marco
    @Prester John

    In Portuguese and Spanish, "latino" does include Italian, French and Romanian.
    When we say were are "latino" is not because we are from Latin-America; it's the other way around.

    Latin-America is called Latin-America because it was colonized by two latino countries - Portugal and Spain. And they are latino because their language is derived from latin and their laws and traditions from the Roman Empire. Like France, Romanian and Italy.

    By the way, the term Latin-America was created by the French Emperor Napoleon III, so he could proclaim a cultural affinity to Latin-America to justify his imperialistic adventures in Mexico. So, even the French Emperor agreed that the French are "latinos".

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Romanian
    @Prester John

    I think the exact term is Romance language. Romanian and its Balkans cousins (Aromanian) are the only Eastern Romance languages still extant and Romanian is the only one to be an official state language (in 2 countries, 3 if you count Vojvodina in Serbia).

  152. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/Evolutionistrue/status/1133734978309840896

    Replies: @FrankT

    Part of the problem is that eveyone is just so willing to throw eveyone to their unwoke right off the sleigh. For example, Coyne says:

    “Some differences between groups, of course, aren’t worth studying because either their results are uninteresting or because they’re designed to feed into stereotypes. My advisor Richard Lewontin used to use, as an example, the hypothesis that Jews have genes for longer noses than other groups. There may well be such genes, as there are genes for morphological differences between other groups, but who would care?

    As we see from Maroja’s discussion of IQ differences between Brazilians and Americans, she is no Charles Murray…”

    Really, so studying facial morphology is unworthy now because it might confirm that my lying eyes? Oh, but who would care, anyways? Well, obviously, your advisor and seemingly you.

    So these people that get thrown off seem ever ready to toss off those just behind them in wokeness.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @FrankT

    their results are uninteresting

    Are there really such things as uninteresting new results in science?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @obwandiyag
    @FrankT

    "Anyways"?

    Whar you from, pardner? Wes Virginny, the place fer you 'n' me?

  153. @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    Pernambuco is also the name of a wood from which all quality violin, viola and cello bows are made. (Bass bows can be made from osage orange or other woods.)

    The wood is CITES listed and scarce because the Brazilians chopped it all down like they did with the cuntwood, I mean Brazilian Rosewood (Dalbergia nigra) trees. Brazilian Rosewood is used in expensive guitars because that's what Gibson and Martin had cheap access to so it must be better in the minds of vintage guitar cunts.

    Both Brazilian Rosewood and Pernambuco trees will grow elsewhere but no one does.

    However Brazilian Rosewood trees grow very slowly and will not yield usable guitar wood in one human lifetime. Really useful trees are 200 to 400 years old. Pernambuco can be planted and yield usable bow wood in 30 years.

    I asked a bowmaker the logical question, why not grow the pernambuco trees in other locales? He seemed to feel that it would be wrong to do so because the Brazilians would not profit from "their" wood. I left unsaid the idea that they were too fucking stupid to properly manage their assets and that no plant had a moral claim on being only grown in one place.

    Brazil first burned huge quantities of its exotic woods to run buses in gasogenios, and then bulldozed much of the rest to make pasture for cow profits, or ruined much of the lumber by insisting that it be made into finished product in Brazil where the humidity made drying difficult and the lack of skilled workers-Brazilians can not make decent guitars domestically, see Del Vecchio, and other examples, because they are fuckups and because you can't import decent tools-the same applies to many other trades. The only Brazilian products worth anything are things made under tight German or other European supervision.

    By the time Brazil gets its shit together composite bows will have replaced pernambuco ones entirely except for amateur Baroque period correct ensembles and bluegrass fiddlers, who are not exactly the fussiest but worship whatever Bill Monroe's crew used.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar, @PV van der Byl

    Pernambuco is also the name of a wood from which all quality violin, viola and cello bows are made. (Bass bows can be made from osage orange or other woods.)

    Is this what Emperor Naruhito uses?

  154. @Marco
    @Anoln

    She is not hispanic. She is latina, but not hispanic.
    We Brazilians are not hispanics.
    Portuguese != Spanish.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    She is not hispanic. She is latina, but not hispanic.
    We Brazilians are not hispanics.
    Portuguese != Spanish.

    I actually like the Portuguese of Rio and the darker places to the north better than the Teutonic south’s, and Portugal’s, precisely because it diverges from Spanish all the more.

    That a T often sounds like ch can be difficult to remember at first, but that’s Porchuguese for you!

  155. @FrankT
    @MEH 0910

    Part of the problem is that eveyone is just so willing to throw eveyone to their unwoke right off the sleigh. For example, Coyne says:

    "Some differences between groups, of course, aren’t worth studying because either their results are uninteresting or because they’re designed to feed into stereotypes. My advisor Richard Lewontin used to use, as an example, the hypothesis that Jews have genes for longer noses than other groups. There may well be such genes, as there are genes for morphological differences between other groups, but who would care?

    As we see from Maroja’s discussion of IQ differences between Brazilians and Americans, she is no Charles Murray..."

    Really, so studying facial morphology is unworthy now because it might confirm that my lying eyes? Oh, but who would care, anyways? Well, obviously, your advisor and seemingly you.

    So these people that get thrown off seem ever ready to toss off those just behind them in wokeness.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @obwandiyag

    their results are uninteresting

    Are there really such things as uninteresting new results in science?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer



    For example, Coyne says:

    “Some differences between groups, of course, aren’t worth studying because either their results are uninteresting or because they’re designed to feed into stereotypes...
     
    Are there really such things as uninteresting new results in science?
     
    That "or" is more than interesting, it's downright intriguing. Especially now.

    The science isn't settled, it's unsettling.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  156. @Anon
    A concise history of iSteve Russian sleigh references

    JANUARY 17, 2019 - Is the NYT Gearing Up to Watson Geneticist David Reich Too?

    ... Russians peasants out of his sleigh ideologically to save his operation...

    JULY 24, 2018 - NYT: Beware! "Members of the 'Human Biodiversity Movement' Enthusiastically Tweet and Blog"

    .... Similarly, if you see a sleigh full of Russian peasants being... of the back of the sleigh and is devoured by the... the other peasants in the sleigh time to get away, you...

    AUGUST 16, 2018 - Did the Royal Society Throw Hobbes from the Russian Sleigh?

    A reader writes: You might get a kick out of this passage from Noel Malcolm's Aspects of Hobbes (2002), pp. 22-23: "Since Hobbes had, by the late 1650s, acquired the enmity of three leading scientists, it is not surprising that there was some reluctance to...

    MARCH 23, 2018 - Reich in NYT: "How Genetics Is Changing Our Understanding of 'Race'"

    ... set of Russians in a sleigh pursued by hungry wolves across... of Russians out of the sleigh. To understand why it is...

    MAY 19, 2017 - More Responses to Vox Attack on Charles Murray

    ... tactic that I call Siberian-sleigh-pursued-by-wolves. The idea... throw one person in your sleigh out for the wolves to...

    DECEMBER 1, 2002 - Republicans Are Now Hoping Against Hope That Just...

    ... tossed out of the sleigh (the legendary Russian sleigh being chased by...

    OCTOBER 12, 2012 - "How Deep Are the Roots of Economic Development?"

    ... the Russian peasants in a sleigh pursued by wolves who periodically...

    JUNE 8, 2005 - Now We Know Why Garance Franke-Ruta Smeared Me Last Year: So She Could Steal My Ideas Without Attribution!

    ... honest than themselves from the sleigh. But I wasn't devious enough...

    DECEMBER 24, 2004 - The American Prospect Can't Stand the Heat and Wants Everybody Else to Get Out of the Kitchen:

    ... are closing in on the sleigh, throw somebody even more politically...

    DECEMBER 1, 2002 - Anita Hill All Over Again: The Lott Imbroglio...

    ... the Russian Peasants in the Sleigh strategy of occasionally tossing one...

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Dieter Kief, @Captain Tripps, @obwandiyag, @JMcG

    Not the only crap he repeats over and over and over again.

    What a boring life. Even if you get paid for it. Writing the same boring crap over and over again.

    Better to be a ditch-digger. At least it’s honest.

  157. @Andy
    @Anoln

    This is nitpicking, I know, but Brazilians are not really Hispanic, since they speak Portuguese, not Spanish. I suppose Latino would cover Brazilians as Portuguese is a language that descends from Latin.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Prester John, @Reg Cæsar

    This is nitpicking, I know, but Brazilians are not really Hispanic, since they speak Portuguese, not Spanish.

    Brazilian surnames often look Spanish because they actually are. One of the most famous, Villa-Lobos, originates in Spain, but that family has been slowly drifting into the Lusosphere for hundreds of years, and I don’t know how Spanish the composer’s ancestry is.

    My half-brother had a German surname, but was only about 3% of that ancestry. It was almost all in the male line from colonial times. As in the US, where many Schmitts, Muellers, and Zimmermanns became Smiths, Millers, and Carpenters, Spanish-Brazilian names may have been altered to native spellings.

    Spain was one of the top sources of immigration to Brazil:

    https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imigra%C3%A7%C3%A3o_espanhola_no_Brasil
    https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inmigraci%C3%B3n_espa%C3%B1ola_en_Brasil

    Segundo outra pesquisa, de 1999, do sociólogo, ex-presidente do Instituto Brasileiro de Geografia e Estatística (IBGE), Simon Schwartzman, 4,4% dos brasileiros entrevistados afirmaram ter ancestralidade espanhola, percentual que, numa população de cerca de 200 milhões de brasileiros, representaria quase 9 milhões de descendentes.

    If you can’t believe Simon Schwartzman, who can you believe?

    • Replies: @Marco
    @Reg Cæsar

    You're half right here. Spain was indeed one of the main sources of immigrants to Brazil but there is a catch: they are considered the "invisible" immigrant group.

    Why? Because they totally assimilated in comparison to Italians, Germans and the Japanese. And keep in mind that those three groups assimilated more than most immigrant groups in the US.

    Most Spaniards changed their surnames to Portuguese and even the ones that kept in Spanish didn't teach Spanish to their children. So these Brazilians have Spanish ancestry but most of them are not culturally hispanic (and hispanic is a "cultural" identity anyway).

    By the way, I should know this because my family is one of those assimilated Spanish ones. My grandfather was Spaniard but no one in my family speaks Spanish.

    Am I hispanic? No, I'm lusitanic.

    Replies: @Anon

  158. @Steve Sailer
    @FrankT

    their results are uninteresting

    Are there really such things as uninteresting new results in science?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    For example, Coyne says:

    “Some differences between groups, of course, aren’t worth studying because either their results are uninteresting or because they’re designed to feed into stereotypes…

    Are there really such things as uninteresting new results in science?

    That “or” is more than interesting, it’s downright intriguing. Especially now.

    The science isn’t settled, it’s unsettling.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    Please define "interesting."

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  159. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    There is, of course, a long history of charlatans who have cited dubious “science” as proof that certain racial and ethnic groups are genetically superior to others.
     
    Has there ever been a case in which there has been a gross mismatch between average IQ and the society's performance?

    In other words, is there a nation in Africa which when measured has an average IQ on par with Japan, but creates a society resembling the Sub-saharan average? Or has the reverse ever been shown to be true?

    I'm excepting a situation like Apartheid South Africa where there is a discrete ruling class with supreme powers which has a measurably higher IQ than the masses it governs.

    In my understanding, measurements of IQ always simply serve to confirm the obvious.

    Replies: @obwandiyag, @snorlax

    And I suppose your observation is “scientific.”

    Hardehar. You know nothing.

    There are almost infinite variables in this discussion. And you dispense with . . . all of them!

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas
    @obwandiyag


    And I suppose your observation is “scientific.”
     
    Of course not! As we all know, 2+2=5 the only scientific conclusion is that we're all exactly equal in every way, and the trick is finding the theory which explains away the observed differences! The current commonly accepted scientific theory is SHUT UP RACIST.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  160. Anonymous[254] • Disclaimer says:
    @Prester John
    @Andy

    If language is the measure, then I would wonder if "Latino" also includes Italian, French and Romanian people since THEIR languages similarly descended from Latin (Romanian, by the way, sounds a lot like Italian).

    Not being a wiseacre here--ahm' jes' askin'.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Marco, @Romanian

    English also has a lot of influence from Latin/French.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    @Anonymous

    Yeah, but it's not a Romance language. It has a lot of influence from Ancient Greek as well, in scientific vocabulary and more besides. Not a linguist, but I guess the syntax and the main language substrates from which you draw your vocabulary are different.

    They are all Indo-European languages in the end.

  161. @FrankT
    @MEH 0910

    Part of the problem is that eveyone is just so willing to throw eveyone to their unwoke right off the sleigh. For example, Coyne says:

    "Some differences between groups, of course, aren’t worth studying because either their results are uninteresting or because they’re designed to feed into stereotypes. My advisor Richard Lewontin used to use, as an example, the hypothesis that Jews have genes for longer noses than other groups. There may well be such genes, as there are genes for morphological differences between other groups, but who would care?

    As we see from Maroja’s discussion of IQ differences between Brazilians and Americans, she is no Charles Murray..."

    Really, so studying facial morphology is unworthy now because it might confirm that my lying eyes? Oh, but who would care, anyways? Well, obviously, your advisor and seemingly you.

    So these people that get thrown off seem ever ready to toss off those just behind them in wokeness.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @obwandiyag

    “Anyways”?

    Whar you from, pardner? Wes Virginny, the place fer you ‘n’ me?

  162. Anonymous[254] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer



    For example, Coyne says:

    “Some differences between groups, of course, aren’t worth studying because either their results are uninteresting or because they’re designed to feed into stereotypes...
     
    Are there really such things as uninteresting new results in science?
     
    That "or" is more than interesting, it's downright intriguing. Especially now.

    The science isn't settled, it's unsettling.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Please define “interesting.”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous

    It used to be that it was news when stereotypes were shattered. Now it's news when they are backed by science and research.

    Or it would be news, if they ever published it. In the Roman alphabet, that is.

  163. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Andy


    I wouldn’t be surprised is the next target of the identitarian left is evolution itself. The blank slate view they espouse is incompatible with evolution and genetics
     
    Actually, it is the IQists who espouse a blank slate ideology. IQism and geneticism and HBDism all proceed from philosophical antecedents which are quite Lockean in nature, and would be seen to be so if their adherents would ever bring them clearly into consciousness, but they don't.

    This is rather easy to demonstrate in the case of IQ. Suppose we take the claims of the HBDers at face value and stipulate that Blacks have an average IQ of 85. Even with that being the case, the much larger absolute size of the White population means that the left tail of its own IQ distribution contains more 85 IQ people than the entire Black population can boast of, yet you never hear the IQists complaining about them. This means, by their own lights, that the bad Black behavior which they abhor (assuming, again, that such is real and demonstrable and characteristic of Blacks and not of low IQ Whites, which were it not the case would imply that the IQists are either not observing correctly or are employing a double standard) must be due to something other than IQ---either "nurture" (which they scoff at) or some other essential factor of race that lies beneath its physical manifestation.

    Yet the so-called "race realists," who are quick to bewail a deracinated culture all the livelong day, are perfectly ready to accept a deracinated intelligence as the sole arbiter of civilizational worth. Having already rejected nurture out of hand, and essentialism being too metaphysical for their limited grasp, they are constrained to fall back upon the hobgoblin of IQ itself, the flickering movement of a content-free intellect, the pure Lockean abstracta---the blank slate. They may try to get around this difficulty by introducing whimsical notions like "time preference" and r/K theory, but that is just recapitulating the problem and bringing in essentialism by the backdoor.

    For if their really exists such a thing as race (and I believe that there does) then it has as little to do with IQ as it does with skin color. Let there be no talk here of genes, and especially not of that abominably false distinction between genotype and phenotype. The DNA in a person is still "phenotype"; it is every bit as physical as the rest of him is, i.e. it is part of the phenomenon. There is only soul and body, matter and form; there is no third possibility. Everything not in the one must be in the other.

    Let the Left attack evolution and they would only be conferring a boon upon us. Getting rid of that system of superficial causality is something that the Alt-Right should have done for itself a long time ago. Yet it appears, by the tenacious manner in which they cling to it, that the race realists are more keen to defend Darwinism (which actually undermines their own position) than to defend the truth about race, which requires essentialism in order to be articulated coherently. The cause of this confusion is something about which I'm not going to speculate here, but I will say that the whole project will go nowhere as long as it is planted firmly in the fairyland of HBD.

    Replies: @obwandiyag, @Jack D, @peterike, @Autochthon, @banopus

    Ohmygod you are such a breath of fresh air.

    I like how they think they even know what “evolution” is.

  164. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Andy


    I wouldn’t be surprised is the next target of the identitarian left is evolution itself. The blank slate view they espouse is incompatible with evolution and genetics
     
    Actually, it is the IQists who espouse a blank slate ideology. IQism and geneticism and HBDism all proceed from philosophical antecedents which are quite Lockean in nature, and would be seen to be so if their adherents would ever bring them clearly into consciousness, but they don't.

    This is rather easy to demonstrate in the case of IQ. Suppose we take the claims of the HBDers at face value and stipulate that Blacks have an average IQ of 85. Even with that being the case, the much larger absolute size of the White population means that the left tail of its own IQ distribution contains more 85 IQ people than the entire Black population can boast of, yet you never hear the IQists complaining about them. This means, by their own lights, that the bad Black behavior which they abhor (assuming, again, that such is real and demonstrable and characteristic of Blacks and not of low IQ Whites, which were it not the case would imply that the IQists are either not observing correctly or are employing a double standard) must be due to something other than IQ---either "nurture" (which they scoff at) or some other essential factor of race that lies beneath its physical manifestation.

    Yet the so-called "race realists," who are quick to bewail a deracinated culture all the livelong day, are perfectly ready to accept a deracinated intelligence as the sole arbiter of civilizational worth. Having already rejected nurture out of hand, and essentialism being too metaphysical for their limited grasp, they are constrained to fall back upon the hobgoblin of IQ itself, the flickering movement of a content-free intellect, the pure Lockean abstracta---the blank slate. They may try to get around this difficulty by introducing whimsical notions like "time preference" and r/K theory, but that is just recapitulating the problem and bringing in essentialism by the backdoor.

    For if their really exists such a thing as race (and I believe that there does) then it has as little to do with IQ as it does with skin color. Let there be no talk here of genes, and especially not of that abominably false distinction between genotype and phenotype. The DNA in a person is still "phenotype"; it is every bit as physical as the rest of him is, i.e. it is part of the phenomenon. There is only soul and body, matter and form; there is no third possibility. Everything not in the one must be in the other.

    Let the Left attack evolution and they would only be conferring a boon upon us. Getting rid of that system of superficial causality is something that the Alt-Right should have done for itself a long time ago. Yet it appears, by the tenacious manner in which they cling to it, that the race realists are more keen to defend Darwinism (which actually undermines their own position) than to defend the truth about race, which requires essentialism in order to be articulated coherently. The cause of this confusion is something about which I'm not going to speculate here, but I will say that the whole project will go nowhere as long as it is planted firmly in the fairyland of HBD.

    Replies: @obwandiyag, @Jack D, @peterike, @Autochthon, @banopus

    Suppose we take the claims of the HBDers at face value and stipulate that Blacks have an average IQ of 85. Even with that being the case, the much larger absolute size of the White population means that the left tail of its own IQ distribution contains more 85 IQ people than the entire Black population can boast of, yet you never hear the IQists complaining about them.

    Actually, the below 85 IQ population is almost exactly divided 50/50 between whites and blacks (even though there are 6x as many whites as blacks), with there being slightly more blacks. And of course in certain statistics (e.g. murder rate) the gap is even more than 6x.

    For whites, this relatively small tail group is vastly outweighed by the millions of whites who have 85+ IQs but for blacks it’s half of their population and all downhill from there.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    @Jack D

    Is the Y axis supposed to be actual population numbers rather than population percentages?

    Replies: @Jack D

  165. @Prester John
    @Andy

    If language is the measure, then I would wonder if "Latino" also includes Italian, French and Romanian people since THEIR languages similarly descended from Latin (Romanian, by the way, sounds a lot like Italian).

    Not being a wiseacre here--ahm' jes' askin'.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Marco, @Romanian

    In Portuguese and Spanish, “latino” does include Italian, French and Romanian.
    When we say were are “latino” is not because we are from Latin-America; it’s the other way around.

    Latin-America is called Latin-America because it was colonized by two latino countries – Portugal and Spain. And they are latino because their language is derived from latin and their laws and traditions from the Roman Empire. Like France, Romanian and Italy.

    By the way, the term Latin-America was created by the French Emperor Napoleon III, so he could proclaim a cultural affinity to Latin-America to justify his imperialistic adventures in Mexico. So, even the French Emperor agreed that the French are “latinos”.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Marco

    In US English, "Latin" evokes Mr Roarke, "Latino" something more like Tattoo.

    http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/38400000/Mr-Roarke-and-Tattoo-fantasy-island-tv-show-38449909-225-300.jpg

  166. @Reg Cæsar
    @Andy


    This is nitpicking, I know, but Brazilians are not really Hispanic, since they speak Portuguese, not Spanish.
     
    Brazilian surnames often look Spanish because they actually are. One of the most famous, Villa-Lobos, originates in Spain, but that family has been slowly drifting into the Lusosphere for hundreds of years, and I don't know how Spanish the composer's ancestry is.

    My half-brother had a German surname, but was only about 3% of that ancestry. It was almost all in the male line from colonial times. As in the US, where many Schmitts, Muellers, and Zimmermanns became Smiths, Millers, and Carpenters, Spanish-Brazilian names may have been altered to native spellings.

    Spain was one of the top sources of immigration to Brazil:

    https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imigra%C3%A7%C3%A3o_espanhola_no_Brasil
    https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inmigraci%C3%B3n_espa%C3%B1ola_en_Brasil

    Segundo outra pesquisa, de 1999, do sociólogo, ex-presidente do Instituto Brasileiro de Geografia e Estatística (IBGE), Simon Schwartzman, 4,4% dos brasileiros entrevistados afirmaram ter ancestralidade espanhola, percentual que, numa população de cerca de 200 milhões de brasileiros, representaria quase 9 milhões de descendentes.
     
    If you can't believe Simon Schwartzman, who can you believe?

    Replies: @Marco

    You’re half right here. Spain was indeed one of the main sources of immigrants to Brazil but there is a catch: they are considered the “invisible” immigrant group.

    Why? Because they totally assimilated in comparison to Italians, Germans and the Japanese. And keep in mind that those three groups assimilated more than most immigrant groups in the US.

    Most Spaniards changed their surnames to Portuguese and even the ones that kept in Spanish didn’t teach Spanish to their children. So these Brazilians have Spanish ancestry but most of them are not culturally hispanic (and hispanic is a “cultural” identity anyway).

    By the way, I should know this because my family is one of those assimilated Spanish ones. My grandfather was Spaniard but no one in my family speaks Spanish.

    Am I hispanic? No, I’m lusitanic.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Marco

    I'm curious to know why so many Spaniards went to Brazil when there were many Spanish-speaking American countries where they would have been more culturally at home.

  167. @Anon
    A concise history of iSteve Russian sleigh references

    JANUARY 17, 2019 - Is the NYT Gearing Up to Watson Geneticist David Reich Too?

    ... Russians peasants out of his sleigh ideologically to save his operation...

    JULY 24, 2018 - NYT: Beware! "Members of the 'Human Biodiversity Movement' Enthusiastically Tweet and Blog"

    .... Similarly, if you see a sleigh full of Russian peasants being... of the back of the sleigh and is devoured by the... the other peasants in the sleigh time to get away, you...

    AUGUST 16, 2018 - Did the Royal Society Throw Hobbes from the Russian Sleigh?

    A reader writes: You might get a kick out of this passage from Noel Malcolm's Aspects of Hobbes (2002), pp. 22-23: "Since Hobbes had, by the late 1650s, acquired the enmity of three leading scientists, it is not surprising that there was some reluctance to...

    MARCH 23, 2018 - Reich in NYT: "How Genetics Is Changing Our Understanding of 'Race'"

    ... set of Russians in a sleigh pursued by hungry wolves across... of Russians out of the sleigh. To understand why it is...

    MAY 19, 2017 - More Responses to Vox Attack on Charles Murray

    ... tactic that I call Siberian-sleigh-pursued-by-wolves. The idea... throw one person in your sleigh out for the wolves to...

    DECEMBER 1, 2002 - Republicans Are Now Hoping Against Hope That Just...

    ... tossed out of the sleigh (the legendary Russian sleigh being chased by...

    OCTOBER 12, 2012 - "How Deep Are the Roots of Economic Development?"

    ... the Russian peasants in a sleigh pursued by wolves who periodically...

    JUNE 8, 2005 - Now We Know Why Garance Franke-Ruta Smeared Me Last Year: So She Could Steal My Ideas Without Attribution!

    ... honest than themselves from the sleigh. But I wasn't devious enough...

    DECEMBER 24, 2004 - The American Prospect Can't Stand the Heat and Wants Everybody Else to Get Out of the Kitchen:

    ... are closing in on the sleigh, throw somebody even more politically...

    DECEMBER 1, 2002 - Anita Hill All Over Again: The Lott Imbroglio...

    ... the Russian Peasants in the Sleigh strategy of occasionally tossing one...

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Dieter Kief, @Captain Tripps, @obwandiyag, @JMcG

    Wasn’t there a “throw momma from the sleigh” scene in one of the Flashman books? I always thought that’s where the reference came from. I’m entirely uneducated in Russian literature though.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @JMcG

    There was a great French privateer named Surcouf, namesake of whatever is the hottest ship in the French navy at the moment (~cf "Enterprise" in ours), whose signature was tossing overboard anything but booty and crewmen to escape.

  168. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Andy


    I wouldn’t be surprised is the next target of the identitarian left is evolution itself. The blank slate view they espouse is incompatible with evolution and genetics
     
    Actually, it is the IQists who espouse a blank slate ideology. IQism and geneticism and HBDism all proceed from philosophical antecedents which are quite Lockean in nature, and would be seen to be so if their adherents would ever bring them clearly into consciousness, but they don't.

    This is rather easy to demonstrate in the case of IQ. Suppose we take the claims of the HBDers at face value and stipulate that Blacks have an average IQ of 85. Even with that being the case, the much larger absolute size of the White population means that the left tail of its own IQ distribution contains more 85 IQ people than the entire Black population can boast of, yet you never hear the IQists complaining about them. This means, by their own lights, that the bad Black behavior which they abhor (assuming, again, that such is real and demonstrable and characteristic of Blacks and not of low IQ Whites, which were it not the case would imply that the IQists are either not observing correctly or are employing a double standard) must be due to something other than IQ---either "nurture" (which they scoff at) or some other essential factor of race that lies beneath its physical manifestation.

    Yet the so-called "race realists," who are quick to bewail a deracinated culture all the livelong day, are perfectly ready to accept a deracinated intelligence as the sole arbiter of civilizational worth. Having already rejected nurture out of hand, and essentialism being too metaphysical for their limited grasp, they are constrained to fall back upon the hobgoblin of IQ itself, the flickering movement of a content-free intellect, the pure Lockean abstracta---the blank slate. They may try to get around this difficulty by introducing whimsical notions like "time preference" and r/K theory, but that is just recapitulating the problem and bringing in essentialism by the backdoor.

    For if their really exists such a thing as race (and I believe that there does) then it has as little to do with IQ as it does with skin color. Let there be no talk here of genes, and especially not of that abominably false distinction between genotype and phenotype. The DNA in a person is still "phenotype"; it is every bit as physical as the rest of him is, i.e. it is part of the phenomenon. There is only soul and body, matter and form; there is no third possibility. Everything not in the one must be in the other.

    Let the Left attack evolution and they would only be conferring a boon upon us. Getting rid of that system of superficial causality is something that the Alt-Right should have done for itself a long time ago. Yet it appears, by the tenacious manner in which they cling to it, that the race realists are more keen to defend Darwinism (which actually undermines their own position) than to defend the truth about race, which requires essentialism in order to be articulated coherently. The cause of this confusion is something about which I'm not going to speculate here, but I will say that the whole project will go nowhere as long as it is planted firmly in the fairyland of HBD.

    Replies: @obwandiyag, @Jack D, @peterike, @Autochthon, @banopus

    They may try to get around this difficulty by introducing whimsical notions like “time preference” and r/K theory, but that is just recapitulating the problem and bringing in essentialism by the backdoor.

    Yeesh. “Whimsical notions” like time preference? When you combine poor future-time orientation (a genetic component) with low IQ, the result is incredibly stupid, impulsive decisions. These lead to crime, to incredibly bad financial decisions (black lottery winners and athletes going from millions to broke), to crime, to poor work and educational choices (why work today when I can’t see the future benefits of it?), to crime, to letting your no good cousin DeShawn stay at your house and steal from you, to… oh, pretty much everything.

    “High time preference” is like the idiot switch in a dim-witted person that turns them from a more or less harmless dummy who can still navigate successfully in the world, to a massively negative force of social dysfunction. Blacks have it worse than whites. The end.

  169. Ever since this notion of ‘gender-fluidity’ came out, I have wondered why a journalist hasn’t sent a survey to the top, say, 30 biologists in our country, with questions like, “Can a man become a woman or vice-versa?”

    Then publish the results, listing the names, titles, college’s name and their respective responses, and if no response, publish that.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @ChrisM

    They would not participate in such a survey unless guaranteed anonymity.

  170. @eah
    @eah

    As long as he suppressed his testosterone levels for one year, he can complete as a woman, according to NCAA rules.

    It is not clear how much sense these rules actually make -- a typical 80 y/o male has less than 25% of the testosterone found in a 20-25 y/o male -- yet the average 80 y/o male still has more grip strength than the average female of any age -- also female testosterone levels are > 50% of the average male level, at all ages.

    https://bodytechrejuvenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/testosterone-levels-by-age.jpg

    https://i.postimg.cc/d3nMCbbg/The-average-80-year-old-man-has-more-strength-than-a-female-of-A.jpg

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    also female testosterone levels are > 50% of the average male level, at all ages.

    Not the case after adolescence. The low end of males can overlap with the high end of females, but the difference is something approaching an order of magnitude.

    A high-T 20-year old woman might be up around 80. Less than a 1/10th of the 900 for a 20 year old.

  171. @Johann Ricke
    @Jack D


    As someone else said, she is good looking for a doctor. “Doctor hot”. As a Hollywood actress or a fashion model she wouldn’t merit a second glance.
     
    You know how some people have yellow fever? Well - some people have Nordic fever, i.e. if it's Nordic-looking, it's mackable. I'd say even for a doctor, she's below average. It's not that I have high standards - she's just very ordinary-looking.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “Well – some people have Nordic fever “

    Well a lot of Brits ARE Nordic, what with Norman, Saxon, Dane and Viking, so it’s not surprising they like an Anglo-Saxon princess like Emma (the Saxon face is squarer than the more northern Nordics, who tend to be longer headed).

    “she’s just very ordinary-looking”

    She’s exquisite – and also very very bright. Still, the more people who share your view, the better for those who don’t.

  172. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Andy


    I wouldn’t be surprised is the next target of the identitarian left is evolution itself. The blank slate view they espouse is incompatible with evolution and genetics
     
    Actually, it is the IQists who espouse a blank slate ideology. IQism and geneticism and HBDism all proceed from philosophical antecedents which are quite Lockean in nature, and would be seen to be so if their adherents would ever bring them clearly into consciousness, but they don't.

    This is rather easy to demonstrate in the case of IQ. Suppose we take the claims of the HBDers at face value and stipulate that Blacks have an average IQ of 85. Even with that being the case, the much larger absolute size of the White population means that the left tail of its own IQ distribution contains more 85 IQ people than the entire Black population can boast of, yet you never hear the IQists complaining about them. This means, by their own lights, that the bad Black behavior which they abhor (assuming, again, that such is real and demonstrable and characteristic of Blacks and not of low IQ Whites, which were it not the case would imply that the IQists are either not observing correctly or are employing a double standard) must be due to something other than IQ---either "nurture" (which they scoff at) or some other essential factor of race that lies beneath its physical manifestation.

    Yet the so-called "race realists," who are quick to bewail a deracinated culture all the livelong day, are perfectly ready to accept a deracinated intelligence as the sole arbiter of civilizational worth. Having already rejected nurture out of hand, and essentialism being too metaphysical for their limited grasp, they are constrained to fall back upon the hobgoblin of IQ itself, the flickering movement of a content-free intellect, the pure Lockean abstracta---the blank slate. They may try to get around this difficulty by introducing whimsical notions like "time preference" and r/K theory, but that is just recapitulating the problem and bringing in essentialism by the backdoor.

    For if their really exists such a thing as race (and I believe that there does) then it has as little to do with IQ as it does with skin color. Let there be no talk here of genes, and especially not of that abominably false distinction between genotype and phenotype. The DNA in a person is still "phenotype"; it is every bit as physical as the rest of him is, i.e. it is part of the phenomenon. There is only soul and body, matter and form; there is no third possibility. Everything not in the one must be in the other.

    Let the Left attack evolution and they would only be conferring a boon upon us. Getting rid of that system of superficial causality is something that the Alt-Right should have done for itself a long time ago. Yet it appears, by the tenacious manner in which they cling to it, that the race realists are more keen to defend Darwinism (which actually undermines their own position) than to defend the truth about race, which requires essentialism in order to be articulated coherently. The cause of this confusion is something about which I'm not going to speculate here, but I will say that the whole project will go nowhere as long as it is planted firmly in the fairyland of HBD.

    Replies: @obwandiyag, @Jack D, @peterike, @Autochthon, @banopus

    [T]he much larger absolute size of the White [sic] population means that the left tail of its own IQ distribution contains more 85 IQ people than the entire Black [sic] population can boast….

    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

    (Doubtless the disparity is even greater now than it was in 2017, and not in a way that supports your incorrect assertion. May I suggest a review of the Most Important Graph in the World?)

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @Autochthon

    I'm talking about Americans, genius. Even His Bloviating Pomposity, Jack D, figured that one out.

    And the capitals are a token of respect deliberately used to show that I mean no racial animus while affirming my race essentialism, so you can [sic] those where the sun don't shine.

    But thank you for once again proving the metapoint that when human biodiversity introduces itself in polite company, it immediately flashes a business card reading "Presented by Chairman Doofus von Boomer-Sperg, IYI". This inability to think outside of a very narrow box is exactly what marks this whole movement for the transient Phariseeism it is.

    Replies: @Autochthon

  173. @Jack D
    @PiltdownMan

    That article is from 2012. What are the chance that the village that this guy almost died for is not back under Taliban control? How is that "transitioning to Afghan Army control" going? Making a decent place out of Afghanistan is like trying to dig a hole in the water. If we had put all of that money and all of those lives and limbs in a bonfire it would have been just as effective.

    Replies: @Simply Simon

    If we had put all the money we spent on wars in Vietnam and Iraq on a bonfire it would also have been just as effective. But then a case could be made that the same principle applies to all the wars we have engaged in. Unfortunately the baser instincts of mankind have prevailed as best I can ascertain.

  174. @anonymous
    @Lot

    Megyn Kelly was kicked off of the Today Show or something like that for saying that people should be able to wear ethnic costumes for Halloween.

    Replies: @Lot

    Possible, but I’d confine Watsoning to getting fired for telling the truth about a scientific matter, not a politically incorrect opinion.

  175. @JMcG
    @Anon

    Wasn’t there a “throw momma from the sleigh” scene in one of the Flashman books? I always thought that’s where the reference came from. I’m entirely uneducated in Russian literature though.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    There was a great French privateer named Surcouf, namesake of whatever is the hottest ship in the French navy at the moment (~cf “Enterprise” in ours), whose signature was tossing overboard anything but booty and crewmen to escape.

  176. @Anonymous
    @Paleo Liberal

    "The girl who was homecoming queen and head cheerleader at my high school is now a member of the National Academy of Sciences."

    There are plenty of women who don't belong in the NAS. The push for "diversity" has been ongoing for decades and is now accelerating even faster. A relative of mine who's a member of the NAS has personally seen women agitating for unqualified women to be elected. The NAS has recently been pushing changes that will fully destroy the meritocracy of the institution, much like the push for "diversity" in the STEM fields will destroy the quality of science.

    As for looks, I know a professor at one of the top Ivy business schools and she was a real hottie when she was younger. Now she's a never married, middle aged, fat, ugly, SJW cat lady. Bossy as heck.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Not to worry! There’s another country, where scientific research is pursued eagerly, especially in genetics, and where diversity hiring is kept to a minimum, especially in science and the military. And they’ve got more than a billion people. Whatever we’re not discovering, I’m sure those other guys can take up our slack.

  177. @eah
    @snorlax

    Justine’s also a MoT.

    What's your evidence for that? -- as a surname, Sacco is very Italian.

    And I’m pretty sure he’s not too dumb to see that

    Why are you "pretty sure"? -- his book 'So You've Been Publicly Shamed' was published in 2015, about the same time the linked NYT article appeared -- he also gave a TED talk about this subject in 2015 (you can find it on Youtube; IMO he comes across as somewhat effeminate) -- so more than two years after Sacco's tweet, he's still calling it "stupid" -- why does he call her tweet "stupid"? -- what was "stupid" about it? -- answer: to him it was "stupid" because it led directly to adverse personal consequences for her: it led to an internet outrage mob, and ultimately to the loss of her job -- there is no other reason to see it as "stupid" -- the tweet itself was not "stupid" -- if it needs to be labeled, it was a mildly tasteless attempt at a joke (rather her style of humor it seems) -- so again to return to evidence: what is the evidence in all of the above that Ronson sees there is nothing "stupid" about the tweet? -- that the only "stupid" thing about that whole farce was the outrage ginned up by internet vigilantes, something he admits he used to be (which is alone pretty damning about him IMO, since no decent person should ever do something like that).

    Here instead of 13/50 we have 13/44:

    https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/images/basics/statistics/cdc-hiv-race-ethnicity-2016-700x641-medium.png

    Replies: @ThreeCranes

    So for population of 62% White, 16% Hispanic, 12.5% Afro, then for one White case of HIV there are 3.7 Hispanic and 8.4 Afro. What are they doing that produces these numbers?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @ThreeCranes


    for one White case of HIV there are 3.7 Hispanic and 8.4 Afro. What are they doing that produces these numbers?
     
    Both sexes.
  178. @obwandiyag
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    And I suppose your observation is "scientific."

    Hardehar. You know nothing.

    There are almost infinite variables in this discussion. And you dispense with . . . all of them!

    Replies: @Alec Leamas

    And I suppose your observation is “scientific.”

    Of course not! As we all know, 2+2=5 the only scientific conclusion is that we’re all exactly equal in every way, and the trick is finding the theory which explains away the observed differences! The current commonly accepted scientific theory is SHUT UP RACIST.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Alec Leamas


    Of course not! As we all know, 2+2=5 the only scientific conclusion is that we’re all exactly equal in every way
     
    To paraphrase Jennifer Roback Morse on feminism, all races are equal in every way, but nonwhites are better.
  179. @Kronos
    Any guesses when Biology/Genetics will go on the offensive? 2026?

    Replies: @Desiderius

    They’ve never not been. Snobbery finds its rivals beneath notice until forced to take notice. So far the only rivals they admit are on the right. No adversaries to the Left contains multiple layers of meaning.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Desiderius


    So far the only rivals they admit are on the right. No adversaries to the Left contains multiple layers of meaning.
     
    And, per Thomas Sowell, the only functional definition of "the right" is anyone who stands in the way of the Left.
  180. @Autochthon
    @Intelligent Dasein


    [T]he much larger absolute size of the White [sic] population means that the left tail of its own IQ distribution contains more 85 IQ people than the entire Black [sic] population can boast....
     
    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

    https://www.nptechforgood.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/World-population-nonprofits.png

    (Doubtless the disparity is even greater now than it was in 2017, and not in a way that supports your incorrect assertion. May I suggest a review of the Most Important Graph in the World?)

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    I’m talking about Americans, genius. Even His Bloviating Pomposity, Jack D, figured that one out.

    And the capitals are a token of respect deliberately used to show that I mean no racial animus while affirming my race essentialism, so you can [sic] those where the sun don’t shine.

    But thank you for once again proving the metapoint that when human biodiversity introduces itself in polite company, it immediately flashes a business card reading “Presented by Chairman Doofus von Boomer-Sperg, IYI”. This inability to think outside of a very narrow box is exactly what marks this whole movement for the transient Phariseeism it is.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    @Intelligent Dasein

    That escalated quickly; sounds like somebody's having a case of the Thursdays.

    I reckoned you might be meaning to write about the population of the F.U.S.A., but you did not. If a man writes "birds don't fly" it's no answer to testily reply to readers' furrowed brows with "Of course I meant penguins, geniuses!" Lazy, unclear writing's cure is not disdain for those who read the writer's words instead of his mind.

    What's more, there are important, substantive reasons for my own point, beyond clarifying the poor composition: People are constantly, and with the encouraging approval of GloboHomo, writing and speaking just as you did, implying the world* is a place where numberless hordes of savage white men beat and persecute, and otherwise abuse, put-upon "minorities" (Negroes, Hindoos, Orientals, mestizos, etc., but the truth is just the polar opposite. European stock are a tiny and rapidly dwindling minority, constantly under siege by the other races aided by the pathologically self-loathing traitors who are a majority of the Europeans themselves; the peoples constantly called "minorities" are in fact numberless hordes, the majority by any measure at all. Please don't let's reinforce this clever bit of brainwashing by parroting it.

    *Any unqualified statement is assumed to apply to the world at large; this is common usage and common sense, so doof that inarguable truth in your own boomer, Sperg. And on that point, if I've written it once I've written it ten times: I am not a baby boomer by any definition whatsoever of that term. I have even more often written my contempt for that lot. Yet presumptuous, unobservant persons like you cannot get enough of asserting and implying that I am a baby boomer. Fine, sure. I'm also a bisexual, obese Negress with pink hair and wicked left hook. Hell, I'm Fred Flintstone. There. You've found me out. Whatever floats your boat, Cap'n.

    Replies: @obwandiyag

  181. @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    Please define "interesting."

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    It used to be that it was news when stereotypes were shattered. Now it’s news when they are backed by science and research.

    Or it would be news, if they ever published it. In the Roman alphabet, that is.

  182. @Jack D
    @Anon

    Being in the sun is really bad for your skin in the long run. If you are an outdoorsy type you had better wear a lot of sunscreen and hats or you are going to look like a prune when you are old.

    Replies: @Escher, @Autochthon

    Agree. And that applies to Asians as well. Have seen a few beach bunnies of Chinese descent who looked way older than their peers.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Escher

    Pale skin is highly valued in the Orient because it is associated with an idle, wealthy life indoors rather than a life spent laboring in a rice paddy like a filthy peasant.

  183. @ThreeCranes
    @eah

    So for population of 62% White, 16% Hispanic, 12.5% Afro, then for one White case of HIV there are 3.7 Hispanic and 8.4 Afro. What are they doing that produces these numbers?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    for one White case of HIV there are 3.7 Hispanic and 8.4 Afro. What are they doing that produces these numbers?

    Both sexes.

  184. @Alec Leamas
    @obwandiyag


    And I suppose your observation is “scientific.”
     
    Of course not! As we all know, 2+2=5 the only scientific conclusion is that we're all exactly equal in every way, and the trick is finding the theory which explains away the observed differences! The current commonly accepted scientific theory is SHUT UP RACIST.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Of course not! As we all know, 2+2=5 the only scientific conclusion is that we’re all exactly equal in every way

    To paraphrase Jennifer Roback Morse on feminism, all races are equal in every way, but nonwhites are better.

  185. @Desiderius
    @Kronos

    They’ve never not been. Snobbery finds its rivals beneath notice until forced to take notice. So far the only rivals they admit are on the right. No adversaries to the Left contains multiple layers of meaning.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    So far the only rivals they admit are on the right. No adversaries to the Left contains multiple layers of meaning.

    And, per Thomas Sowell, the only functional definition of “the right” is anyone who stands in the way of the Left.

  186. @Marco
    @Prester John

    In Portuguese and Spanish, "latino" does include Italian, French and Romanian.
    When we say were are "latino" is not because we are from Latin-America; it's the other way around.

    Latin-America is called Latin-America because it was colonized by two latino countries - Portugal and Spain. And they are latino because their language is derived from latin and their laws and traditions from the Roman Empire. Like France, Romanian and Italy.

    By the way, the term Latin-America was created by the French Emperor Napoleon III, so he could proclaim a cultural affinity to Latin-America to justify his imperialistic adventures in Mexico. So, even the French Emperor agreed that the French are "latinos".

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    In US English, “Latin” evokes Mr Roarke, “Latino” something more like Tattoo.

  187. @snorlax
    OT: To answer Steve's question
    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1133534038147325953
    it's "fat empowerment."
    https://twitter.com/GilletteVenus/status/1113565570354409473

    Replies: @jon, @Mr McKenna, @Almost Missouri, @MEH 0910, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Reg Cæsar

    Annie Liebowitz has put Amy Schumer in the Pirelli calendar:

  188. HA says:
    @anon
    Christianity started this way. It was a ridiculous cult in Rome until the state elevated it to the national religion. When a cult takes charge all facts and reason have to get out of the way.
    The same thing is unfolding before our eyes today. The corporate state has decided to elevate the Sacred Black Bodies and Holy Vaginas cult into our national religion. The puny biology department doesn't stand a chance.
    In hindsight the age of Reason will seem like a beautiful but brief interlude in the long stupid history of man.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @Captain Tripps, @HA

    >Christianity started this way. It was a ridiculous cult in Rome until the state elevated it to the national religion.

    Wrong on both counts. Despite the fact that in its early years “Christians were arrested, tortured, mutilated, burned, starved, and condemned to gladiatorial contests to amuse spectators”, Christianity had nonetheless managed to become the dominant religion of the empire (op cit.) by the time Constantine came along. That doesn’t make it any more or less true, but it was certainly not some “ridiculous cult in Rome” that only rose to prominence through state support.

    Next time, start with actual facts and build from there, as opposed to fabricating history to conform with your half-baked theories.

  189. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Autochthon

    I'm talking about Americans, genius. Even His Bloviating Pomposity, Jack D, figured that one out.

    And the capitals are a token of respect deliberately used to show that I mean no racial animus while affirming my race essentialism, so you can [sic] those where the sun don't shine.

    But thank you for once again proving the metapoint that when human biodiversity introduces itself in polite company, it immediately flashes a business card reading "Presented by Chairman Doofus von Boomer-Sperg, IYI". This inability to think outside of a very narrow box is exactly what marks this whole movement for the transient Phariseeism it is.

    Replies: @Autochthon

    That escalated quickly; sounds like somebody’s having a case of the Thursdays.

    I reckoned you might be meaning to write about the population of the F.U.S.A., but you did not. If a man writes “birds don’t fly” it’s no answer to testily reply to readers’ furrowed brows with “Of course I meant penguins, geniuses!” Lazy, unclear writing’s cure is not disdain for those who read the writer’s words instead of his mind.

    What’s more, there are important, substantive reasons for my own point, beyond clarifying the poor composition: People are constantly, and with the encouraging approval of GloboHomo, writing and speaking just as you did, implying the world* is a place where numberless hordes of savage white men beat and persecute, and otherwise abuse, put-upon “minorities” (Negroes, Hindoos, Orientals, mestizos, etc., but the truth is just the polar opposite. European stock are a tiny and rapidly dwindling minority, constantly under siege by the other races aided by the pathologically self-loathing traitors who are a majority of the Europeans themselves; the peoples constantly called “minorities” are in fact numberless hordes, the majority by any measure at all. Please don’t let’s reinforce this clever bit of brainwashing by parroting it.

    *Any unqualified statement is assumed to apply to the world at large; this is common usage and common sense, so doof that inarguable truth in your own boomer, Sperg. And on that point, if I’ve written it once I’ve written it ten times: I am not a baby boomer by any definition whatsoever of that term. I have even more often written my contempt for that lot. Yet presumptuous, unobservant persons like you cannot get enough of asserting and implying that I am a baby boomer. Fine, sure. I’m also a bisexual, obese Negress with pink hair and wicked left hook. Hell, I’m Fred Flintstone. There. You’ve found me out. Whatever floats your boat, Cap’n.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    @Autochthon

    I like the use of the passive voice. Favored by cowards idiots and liars.

    Any unqualified statement is assumed to apply to the world at large.

    Yes, "is assumed." By idiots cowards and liars.

    Replies: @Autochthon

  190. @Anon
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Sometimes the outdoorsy types age better than the hothouse orchids. And you don't have to worry about looking at a weird botoxy plastic surgery mess -- and paying for it.

    At any rate, the golden rule is, "Look at the mother." Look very closely at the mother.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal, @Jack D, @Autochthon, @Autochthon

    Wow! Really?! Say, you should get the word out. They should have been teaching this stuff to children in elementary school for fifty years. There should be announcements in the public interest and campaigns to ensure awareness. Every parent should reinforce the importance of sunscreen. Maybe we could even get Georgia’s own great Mary Schmich to immortalise the idea in an epic essay.

    I cannot thank you enough for sharing this esoteric wisdom. For now, though, I’m going to pause and enjoy a healthy cigarette to calm my shock….

  191. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    There is, of course, a long history of charlatans who have cited dubious “science” as proof that certain racial and ethnic groups are genetically superior to others.
     
    Has there ever been a case in which there has been a gross mismatch between average IQ and the society's performance?

    In other words, is there a nation in Africa which when measured has an average IQ on par with Japan, but creates a society resembling the Sub-saharan average? Or has the reverse ever been shown to be true?

    I'm excepting a situation like Apartheid South Africa where there is a discrete ruling class with supreme powers which has a measurably higher IQ than the masses it governs.

    In my understanding, measurements of IQ always simply serve to confirm the obvious.

    Replies: @obwandiyag, @snorlax

    Has there ever been a case in which there has been a gross mismatch between average IQ and the society’s performance?

    Perform below IQ: China, Southeast Asia, fmr. USSR except the Baltics and Central Asia, the Balkans, the Southern Cone (Argentina + Chile + Uruguay), Cuba, Afghanistan. All the result of crackpot far-left economics and/or limited interaction with Western European culture.

    Perform above IQ (w/o ethnically-distinct high-IQ ruling class): Gulf Arabs, Bermuda, Costa Rica, Kerala, Botswana, Ghana, Kenya. Extraction-based economies and/or (almost) never involved in wars.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @snorlax

    Gulf Arabs are only the product of the enormous petroleum resources they lucked into and were allowed to retain and develop with immense help from the West.

    The US should have used its heavy lift capability and cheap AC to colonize the entire region after WW2. Then those savages would still be scrabbling around the desert where they belong.

    Bermuda is trending down as more vibrants ascend in government there. For several reasons the tourist industry is a shell of what it was. The finance and reinsurance industries are doing quite well, but they just want to be left alone to hoard fiat in their accounts without investing in the island.

    , @Romanian
    @snorlax

    The Baltics and non-USSR Central and Eastern Euros still perform below IQ. Look at nominal GDP data. The gap with the West is still very large and many of those countries are headed towards middle income traps.

    Replies: @obwandiyag

    , @obwandiyag
    @snorlax

    By "perform," you mean destroy the environment beyond recovery, rot people's brains with propaganda, force everybody to work horrible life-destroying jobs for peanuts, and turn the entire landscape into a parking lot. Like the US.

  192. @Jack D
    @Anon

    Being in the sun is really bad for your skin in the long run. If you are an outdoorsy type you had better wear a lot of sunscreen and hats or you are going to look like a prune when you are old.

    Replies: @Escher, @Autochthon

    Wow! Really?! Say, you should get the word out. They should have been teaching this stuff to children in elementary school for fifty years. There should be announcements in the public interest and campaigns to ensure awareness. Every parent should reinforce the importance of sunscreen. Maybe we could even get Georgia’s own great Mary Schmich to immortalise the idea in an epic essay.

    I cannot thank you enough for sharing this esoteric wisdom. For now, though, I’m going to pause and enjoy a healthy cigarette to calm my shock.

  193. @Anon
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Sometimes the outdoorsy types age better than the hothouse orchids. And you don't have to worry about looking at a weird botoxy plastic surgery mess -- and paying for it.

    At any rate, the golden rule is, "Look at the mother." Look very closely at the mother.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal, @Jack D, @Autochthon, @Autochthon

    Damnit. I replied to the wrong person; my ribbing was for Jack D. Ostensibly I deleted the reply to you and placed it as a reply to Jack, but I see now my efforts here, as in most of my life, apparently failed.

  194. @Escher
    @Jack D

    Agree. And that applies to Asians as well. Have seen a few beach bunnies of Chinese descent who looked way older than their peers.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    Pale skin is highly valued in the Orient because it is associated with an idle, wealthy life indoors rather than a life spent laboring in a rice paddy like a filthy peasant.

  195. @snorlax
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)


    Has there ever been a case in which there has been a gross mismatch between average IQ and the society’s performance?
     
    Perform below IQ: China, Southeast Asia, fmr. USSR except the Baltics and Central Asia, the Balkans, the Southern Cone (Argentina + Chile + Uruguay), Cuba, Afghanistan. All the result of crackpot far-left economics and/or limited interaction with Western European culture.

    Perform above IQ (w/o ethnically-distinct high-IQ ruling class): Gulf Arabs, Bermuda, Costa Rica, Kerala, Botswana, Ghana, Kenya. Extraction-based economies and/or (almost) never involved in wars.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Romanian, @obwandiyag

    Gulf Arabs are only the product of the enormous petroleum resources they lucked into and were allowed to retain and develop with immense help from the West.

    The US should have used its heavy lift capability and cheap AC to colonize the entire region after WW2. Then those savages would still be scrabbling around the desert where they belong.

    Bermuda is trending down as more vibrants ascend in government there. For several reasons the tourist industry is a shell of what it was. The finance and reinsurance industries are doing quite well, but they just want to be left alone to hoard fiat in their accounts without investing in the island.

  196. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Andy


    I wouldn’t be surprised is the next target of the identitarian left is evolution itself. The blank slate view they espouse is incompatible with evolution and genetics
     
    Actually, it is the IQists who espouse a blank slate ideology. IQism and geneticism and HBDism all proceed from philosophical antecedents which are quite Lockean in nature, and would be seen to be so if their adherents would ever bring them clearly into consciousness, but they don't.

    This is rather easy to demonstrate in the case of IQ. Suppose we take the claims of the HBDers at face value and stipulate that Blacks have an average IQ of 85. Even with that being the case, the much larger absolute size of the White population means that the left tail of its own IQ distribution contains more 85 IQ people than the entire Black population can boast of, yet you never hear the IQists complaining about them. This means, by their own lights, that the bad Black behavior which they abhor (assuming, again, that such is real and demonstrable and characteristic of Blacks and not of low IQ Whites, which were it not the case would imply that the IQists are either not observing correctly or are employing a double standard) must be due to something other than IQ---either "nurture" (which they scoff at) or some other essential factor of race that lies beneath its physical manifestation.

    Yet the so-called "race realists," who are quick to bewail a deracinated culture all the livelong day, are perfectly ready to accept a deracinated intelligence as the sole arbiter of civilizational worth. Having already rejected nurture out of hand, and essentialism being too metaphysical for their limited grasp, they are constrained to fall back upon the hobgoblin of IQ itself, the flickering movement of a content-free intellect, the pure Lockean abstracta---the blank slate. They may try to get around this difficulty by introducing whimsical notions like "time preference" and r/K theory, but that is just recapitulating the problem and bringing in essentialism by the backdoor.

    For if their really exists such a thing as race (and I believe that there does) then it has as little to do with IQ as it does with skin color. Let there be no talk here of genes, and especially not of that abominably false distinction between genotype and phenotype. The DNA in a person is still "phenotype"; it is every bit as physical as the rest of him is, i.e. it is part of the phenomenon. There is only soul and body, matter and form; there is no third possibility. Everything not in the one must be in the other.

    Let the Left attack evolution and they would only be conferring a boon upon us. Getting rid of that system of superficial causality is something that the Alt-Right should have done for itself a long time ago. Yet it appears, by the tenacious manner in which they cling to it, that the race realists are more keen to defend Darwinism (which actually undermines their own position) than to defend the truth about race, which requires essentialism in order to be articulated coherently. The cause of this confusion is something about which I'm not going to speculate here, but I will say that the whole project will go nowhere as long as it is planted firmly in the fairyland of HBD.

    Replies: @obwandiyag, @Jack D, @peterike, @Autochthon, @banopus

    Wow, as Voltaire kinda said of Rousseau, never has so much verbiage been used to say something so shallow. This is pure bs.

  197. @Autochthon
    @Intelligent Dasein

    That escalated quickly; sounds like somebody's having a case of the Thursdays.

    I reckoned you might be meaning to write about the population of the F.U.S.A., but you did not. If a man writes "birds don't fly" it's no answer to testily reply to readers' furrowed brows with "Of course I meant penguins, geniuses!" Lazy, unclear writing's cure is not disdain for those who read the writer's words instead of his mind.

    What's more, there are important, substantive reasons for my own point, beyond clarifying the poor composition: People are constantly, and with the encouraging approval of GloboHomo, writing and speaking just as you did, implying the world* is a place where numberless hordes of savage white men beat and persecute, and otherwise abuse, put-upon "minorities" (Negroes, Hindoos, Orientals, mestizos, etc., but the truth is just the polar opposite. European stock are a tiny and rapidly dwindling minority, constantly under siege by the other races aided by the pathologically self-loathing traitors who are a majority of the Europeans themselves; the peoples constantly called "minorities" are in fact numberless hordes, the majority by any measure at all. Please don't let's reinforce this clever bit of brainwashing by parroting it.

    *Any unqualified statement is assumed to apply to the world at large; this is common usage and common sense, so doof that inarguable truth in your own boomer, Sperg. And on that point, if I've written it once I've written it ten times: I am not a baby boomer by any definition whatsoever of that term. I have even more often written my contempt for that lot. Yet presumptuous, unobservant persons like you cannot get enough of asserting and implying that I am a baby boomer. Fine, sure. I'm also a bisexual, obese Negress with pink hair and wicked left hook. Hell, I'm Fred Flintstone. There. You've found me out. Whatever floats your boat, Cap'n.

    Replies: @obwandiyag

    I like the use of the passive voice. Favored by cowards idiots and liars.

    Any unqualified statement is assumed to apply to the world at large.

    Yes, “is assumed.” By idiots cowards and liars.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    @obwandiyag

    I'm afraid I cannot honestly say I understand your point.

    (Yabba-dabba-doo.)

    Replies: @obwandiyag

  198. @El Dato
    @Anon

    Explain!

    Being associate professor with tenure is not a pass to slack off.

    (I'm not even sure it is an enviable position; "associate" probably means "doing the stuff that the real professor does not want to do". Like teaching or grading.)

    Replies: @68W58

    Academic ranks exist in our university system-so an associate professor ranks above an assistant professor but below a full or distinguished professor. A lot of that has to do with time in the system or publications, but an associate prof is still a pretty good spot to be in.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_ranks_in_the_United_States

  199. @Anon
    @Lot


    She’s too cute. Never underestimate the power of the White Knight.

    Name one hottie that has ever been Watsoned from a good job.
     
    But her voice ...

    Replies: @Romanian

    She could have a pretty hot, if deeper, voice speaking in Portuguese. It’s my observation that, even when the accents themselves could be sexy, some people’s voices don’t hold up very well when trying to speak another language with the inflections of their maternal language. No matter how functionally fluent they are. I lack the vocabulary to explain how Portuguese strikes me as a much deeper sounding language than Spanish.

  200. @Graham
    @PiltdownMan

    And Harry Flashman infamously threw a naked girl from a sleigh in Flashman at the Charge by George MacDonald Fraser.

    Replies: @68W58

    That’s exactly what I thought of when I saw the picture Steve chose for his, though at least he threw her to the pursuing horsemen and not wolves.

  201. @Jack D
    @Anon

    An often observed paradox is that in places that are the LEAST woke ( Brazil, Iran, Romania, etc.) universities tend to graduate a lot of women in hard STEM fields (math,biochemistry, etc.) while in the woke paradises of the US and Western Europe the women take up womyn's studies and complain about the fact that there are not more women in STEM fields.

    Replies: @Romanian

    An often observed paradox is that in places that are the LEAST woke ( Brazil, Iran, Romania, etc.) universities tend to graduate a lot of women in hard STEM fields (math,biochemistry, etc.) while in the woke paradises of the US and Western Europe the women take up womyn’s studies and complain about the fact that there are not more women in STEM fields.

    I have wondered about that. Escaping poverty focuses the mind I guess. And the women don’t change careers at higher rates than the men after they graduate. I always thought, in the case of the Communist areas, that the Commies simply had an ideology suited to the mobilization of resources for the struggle and the women were simply another resource, while the jobs themselves had high prestige and income so if everyone was going to be a working parent anyway, might as well get with the programme. The workplaces are pretty un-PC, either way, unless they are owned by foreign corporations and directly staffed with a certain kind of expat or our growing PC class. I’ve had first hand accounts of “interventions” for PC related complaints on creating a hostile working environment.

  202. @Prester John
    @Andy

    If language is the measure, then I would wonder if "Latino" also includes Italian, French and Romanian people since THEIR languages similarly descended from Latin (Romanian, by the way, sounds a lot like Italian).

    Not being a wiseacre here--ahm' jes' askin'.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Marco, @Romanian

    I think the exact term is Romance language. Romanian and its Balkans cousins (Aromanian) are the only Eastern Romance languages still extant and Romanian is the only one to be an official state language (in 2 countries, 3 if you count Vojvodina in Serbia).

  203. @Anonymous
    @Prester John

    English also has a lot of influence from Latin/French.

    Replies: @Romanian

    Yeah, but it’s not a Romance language. It has a lot of influence from Ancient Greek as well, in scientific vocabulary and more besides. Not a linguist, but I guess the syntax and the main language substrates from which you draw your vocabulary are different.

    They are all Indo-European languages in the end.

  204. @Jack D
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Suppose we take the claims of the HBDers at face value and stipulate that Blacks have an average IQ of 85. Even with that being the case, the much larger absolute size of the White population means that the left tail of its own IQ distribution contains more 85 IQ people than the entire Black population can boast of, yet you never hear the IQists complaining about them.
     
    Actually, the below 85 IQ population is almost exactly divided 50/50 between whites and blacks (even though there are 6x as many whites as blacks), with there being slightly more blacks. And of course in certain statistics (e.g. murder rate) the gap is even more than 6x.

    For whites, this relatively small tail group is vastly outweighed by the millions of whites who have 85+ IQs but for blacks it's half of their population and all downhill from there.

    http://plantnews.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/iq-580x276.jpg

    Replies: @Romanian

    Is the Y axis supposed to be actual population numbers rather than population percentages?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Romanian

    Yes.

  205. @snorlax
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)


    Has there ever been a case in which there has been a gross mismatch between average IQ and the society’s performance?
     
    Perform below IQ: China, Southeast Asia, fmr. USSR except the Baltics and Central Asia, the Balkans, the Southern Cone (Argentina + Chile + Uruguay), Cuba, Afghanistan. All the result of crackpot far-left economics and/or limited interaction with Western European culture.

    Perform above IQ (w/o ethnically-distinct high-IQ ruling class): Gulf Arabs, Bermuda, Costa Rica, Kerala, Botswana, Ghana, Kenya. Extraction-based economies and/or (almost) never involved in wars.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Romanian, @obwandiyag

    The Baltics and non-USSR Central and Eastern Euros still perform below IQ. Look at nominal GDP data. The gap with the West is still very large and many of those countries are headed towards middle income traps.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    @Romanian

    You actually make judgments about ANYTHING based on this lie you call "GDP."

    Man, you know nothing.

    Replies: @Romanian

  206. @Romanian
    @Jack D

    Is the Y axis supposed to be actual population numbers rather than population percentages?

    Replies: @Jack D

    Yes.

  207. @obwandiyag
    @Autochthon

    I like the use of the passive voice. Favored by cowards idiots and liars.

    Any unqualified statement is assumed to apply to the world at large.

    Yes, "is assumed." By idiots cowards and liars.

    Replies: @Autochthon

    I’m afraid I cannot honestly say I understand your point.

    (Yabba-dabba-doo.)

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    @Autochthon

    Because you are stupid.

  208. @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    Pernambuco is also the name of a wood from which all quality violin, viola and cello bows are made. (Bass bows can be made from osage orange or other woods.)

    The wood is CITES listed and scarce because the Brazilians chopped it all down like they did with the cuntwood, I mean Brazilian Rosewood (Dalbergia nigra) trees. Brazilian Rosewood is used in expensive guitars because that's what Gibson and Martin had cheap access to so it must be better in the minds of vintage guitar cunts.

    Both Brazilian Rosewood and Pernambuco trees will grow elsewhere but no one does.

    However Brazilian Rosewood trees grow very slowly and will not yield usable guitar wood in one human lifetime. Really useful trees are 200 to 400 years old. Pernambuco can be planted and yield usable bow wood in 30 years.

    I asked a bowmaker the logical question, why not grow the pernambuco trees in other locales? He seemed to feel that it would be wrong to do so because the Brazilians would not profit from "their" wood. I left unsaid the idea that they were too fucking stupid to properly manage their assets and that no plant had a moral claim on being only grown in one place.

    Brazil first burned huge quantities of its exotic woods to run buses in gasogenios, and then bulldozed much of the rest to make pasture for cow profits, or ruined much of the lumber by insisting that it be made into finished product in Brazil where the humidity made drying difficult and the lack of skilled workers-Brazilians can not make decent guitars domestically, see Del Vecchio, and other examples, because they are fuckups and because you can't import decent tools-the same applies to many other trades. The only Brazilian products worth anything are things made under tight German or other European supervision.

    By the time Brazil gets its shit together composite bows will have replaced pernambuco ones entirely except for amateur Baroque period correct ensembles and bluegrass fiddlers, who are not exactly the fussiest but worship whatever Bill Monroe's crew used.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar, @PV van der Byl

    This is an old story in Brazil.

    Lots of trees require many years (e.g. decades or more) between planting and the first commercial harvest.

    So, pay-offs are distant and the present value low, even when property rights (i.e. claims on those future harvests) are strong.

    When property rights are weak, as they have been historically in Brazil, the present value is negligible.

    That is why so much Brazilian agriculture is nearly “slash and burn.” No property titles exist in vast areas of the country but particularly in the Amazon. So, planters do what can be harvested in no more than a few growing seasons, natural timber and livestock being good examples.

    In the 1870s, a British civil servant exported natural rubber plants from Brazil to various tropical British possessions to be grown on rubber plantations and where harvesting used methods that wouldn’t kill the trees. The Dutch did the same.

    Indignant Brazilian officials banned the export of rubber plants and claimed their patrimony had been stolen.

    It never occurred to them to ask why publicly listed companies were creating plantations in Malaya and the Dutch East Indies (now Indonesia) but not in Brazil.

  209. @Autochthon
    @obwandiyag

    I'm afraid I cannot honestly say I understand your point.

    (Yabba-dabba-doo.)

    Replies: @obwandiyag

    Because you are stupid.

  210. @snorlax
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)


    Has there ever been a case in which there has been a gross mismatch between average IQ and the society’s performance?
     
    Perform below IQ: China, Southeast Asia, fmr. USSR except the Baltics and Central Asia, the Balkans, the Southern Cone (Argentina + Chile + Uruguay), Cuba, Afghanistan. All the result of crackpot far-left economics and/or limited interaction with Western European culture.

    Perform above IQ (w/o ethnically-distinct high-IQ ruling class): Gulf Arabs, Bermuda, Costa Rica, Kerala, Botswana, Ghana, Kenya. Extraction-based economies and/or (almost) never involved in wars.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Romanian, @obwandiyag

    By “perform,” you mean destroy the environment beyond recovery, rot people’s brains with propaganda, force everybody to work horrible life-destroying jobs for peanuts, and turn the entire landscape into a parking lot. Like the US.

  211. @Romanian
    @snorlax

    The Baltics and non-USSR Central and Eastern Euros still perform below IQ. Look at nominal GDP data. The gap with the West is still very large and many of those countries are headed towards middle income traps.

    Replies: @obwandiyag

    You actually make judgments about ANYTHING based on this lie you call “GDP.”

    Man, you know nothing.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    @obwandiyag

    I work with the data I have and I am well aware of the shortcomings of GDP as an indicator, as was Simon Kuznets, who created it and warned against making it into a "golden calf". Maybe when we will get a "socially responsible economic product" indicator, we will use that one.

  212. @Sean
    @syonredux


    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/making-sense-of-robert-e-lee-85017563/

    In his dashing (if sometimes depressive) antebellum prime, he may have been the most beautiful person in America, a sort of precursorcross between Cary Grant and Randolph Scott.

     

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

    Where are the pretty boy pics? There’s just a painting of his middle-aged, double-chinned father, and a lot of words. What a tease!

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Nicholas Stix

    Men would be expected to be at their peak of objective physical attractiveness when they are of prime procreating age, which is the age when women desire them most. So around their mid twenties is the relevant age. Not his canescent years, when photos show a fold in his earlobe , associated with serious heart trouble, something that doubtless contributed to a lack of grip at Gettysburg. Then again, Lachlan said to make oneself a hero you have to put yourself in a situation where you can be betrayed with impunity.


    Robert appears to have been too fine for his childhood, for his education, for his profession, for his marriage, and for the Confederacy. Not according to him. According to him, he was not fine enough. For all his audacity on the battlefield, he accepted rather passively one raw deal after another, bending over backward for everyone from Jefferson Davis to James McNeill Whistler’s mother. (When he was superintendent of the U.S. Military Academy, Lee acquiesced to Mrs. Whistler’s request on behalf of her cadet son, who was eventually dismissed in 1854.)
     
    Lee was the product of an aristocratic ethos. As Fukuyama in the End of History discussed, Nietzsche thought no human greatness was possible except in such societies where a class of men were not satisfied with being recognised as equal to others and stove to be superior to themselves and others by performing great exploits. Such an elite were the personification of greatness, benevolence and beauty, but also external hostility. The Southern religious doctrine had not moved from predestination, but the rest of the country had began to see individuals as perfectable.

    https://youtu.be/9YYqz_9NN2Y?t=247

    As the historian says, in the same way as the Sixties explain the current political stances of the major parties, the Great Awakening of the 1820 lets you understand the ad hoc theology that produced the Civil War. Systems for promoting perfect equality can only be put into beingby a strong leader. Hence the personalty cults of Lincoln, Lenin and Stalin
  213. Sean says:
    @Nicholas Stix
    @Sean

    Where are the pretty boy pics? There's just a painting of his middle-aged, double-chinned father, and a lot of words. What a tease!

    Replies: @Sean

    Men would be expected to be at their peak of objective physical attractiveness when they are of prime procreating age, which is the age when women desire them most. So around their mid twenties is the relevant age. Not his canescent years, when photos show a fold in his earlobe , associated with serious heart trouble, something that doubtless contributed to a lack of grip at Gettysburg. Then again, Lachlan said to make oneself a hero you have to put yourself in a situation where you can be betrayed with impunity.

    Robert appears to have been too fine for his childhood, for his education, for his profession, for his marriage, and for the Confederacy. Not according to him. According to him, he was not fine enough. For all his audacity on the battlefield, he accepted rather passively one raw deal after another, bending over backward for everyone from Jefferson Davis to James McNeill Whistler’s mother. (When he was superintendent of the U.S. Military Academy, Lee acquiesced to Mrs. Whistler’s request on behalf of her cadet son, who was eventually dismissed in 1854.)

    Lee was the product of an aristocratic ethos. As Fukuyama in the End of History discussed, Nietzsche thought no human greatness was possible except in such societies where a class of men were not satisfied with being recognised as equal to others and stove to be superior to themselves and others by performing great exploits. Such an elite were the personification of greatness, benevolence and beauty, but also external hostility. The Southern religious doctrine had not moved from predestination, but the rest of the country had began to see individuals as perfectable.

    As the historian says, in the same way as the Sixties explain the current political stances of the major parties, the Great Awakening of the 1820 lets you understand the ad hoc theology that produced the Civil War. Systems for promoting perfect equality can only be put into beingby a strong leader. Hence the personalty cults of Lincoln, Lenin and Stalin

  214. @Jack D
    @R.G. Camara

    You have zero evidence for what you are saying. She appears to be a real scientist and a person with a lot of character. Maybe she won't be able to withstand the pressure but her parents withstood actual torture by the Brazilian dictatorship so I think she is equipped to take on a bunch of American SJWs who are mostly hot air.

    Here is the rare academic who is brave enough to say and do the right thing and you write her off preemptively. With friends like you, who needs enemies?

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    lol. White knight alert!

    My evidence is that she is a woman and this is how they behave and this is how our society treats them in The Current Year.

    Seriously, how many times does Lucy need to pull the football on you, Charlie Brown? Trusting that this female “scientist” will in anyway be on your side or be an ally is as laughably delusional as believing that “racism” holding blacks down and not IQ and inbred social behavior.

    Take the red pill on women, dude. And swallow it all the way down.

  215. @Marco
    @Reg Cæsar

    You're half right here. Spain was indeed one of the main sources of immigrants to Brazil but there is a catch: they are considered the "invisible" immigrant group.

    Why? Because they totally assimilated in comparison to Italians, Germans and the Japanese. And keep in mind that those three groups assimilated more than most immigrant groups in the US.

    Most Spaniards changed their surnames to Portuguese and even the ones that kept in Spanish didn't teach Spanish to their children. So these Brazilians have Spanish ancestry but most of them are not culturally hispanic (and hispanic is a "cultural" identity anyway).

    By the way, I should know this because my family is one of those assimilated Spanish ones. My grandfather was Spaniard but no one in my family speaks Spanish.

    Am I hispanic? No, I'm lusitanic.

    Replies: @Anon

    I’m curious to know why so many Spaniards went to Brazil when there were many Spanish-speaking American countries where they would have been more culturally at home.

  216. @ChrisM
    Ever since this notion of 'gender-fluidity' came out, I have wondered why a journalist hasn't sent a survey to the top, say, 30 biologists in our country, with questions like, "Can a man become a woman or vice-versa?"

    Then publish the results, listing the names, titles, college's name and their respective responses, and if no response, publish that.

    Replies: @Anon

    They would not participate in such a survey unless guaranteed anonymity.

  217. @obwandiyag
    @Romanian

    You actually make judgments about ANYTHING based on this lie you call "GDP."

    Man, you know nothing.

    Replies: @Romanian

    I work with the data I have and I am well aware of the shortcomings of GDP as an indicator, as was Simon Kuznets, who created it and warned against making it into a “golden calf”. Maybe when we will get a “socially responsible economic product” indicator, we will use that one.

  218. @Chrisnonymous
    @Lagertha

    Yes, but in their defense, these students are getting radicalized in primary and secondary school, not university. I suspect they are so militant and doctrinaire because education majors/public school teachers are the absolute bottom of the education barrel.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    Private schools (I know, from my children’s friends) are now, full on-board, Cultural Marxism….even Exeter and Andover….all of them – they are all preaching the multi-culti stuff to their students.

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