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In recent years, I’ve noted that a lot of the best athletes have surnames that end with an “-ich” sound, which usually denotes Balkan ancestry. Now, Nikola Jokić from Serbia, a 6-11, 284 pound center for the Denver Nuggets, has been voted the National Basketball Association Most Valuable Player by a wide margin.

Jokić is an exceptional passer for a center. He brings to basketball some skills from other sports that are big in the Balkans like water polo and volleyball:

Slovenian Luka Dončić, who is only 22, finished sixth in the voting, after a fourth place total last year.

 
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  1. • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why are the South Korean feminists all holding signs printed in English?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Skyler the Weird, @bomag, @Ron Mexico, @slumber_j, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Foreign expert, @Truth, @AnotherDad, @Andy, @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar, @bigdicknick

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @JohnnyWalker123

    No wonder South Korea's TFR is horrific.

    All Kim has to do is wait.

    , @Calvin Hobbes
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Are the Korean ladies advocating that African men be encouraged to immigrate to Korea?

    , @Pop Warner
    @JohnnyWalker123

    South Korea was/is run by a feminist cult. Politicians at the highest levels were implicated and some people were conveniently suicided when the story broke a few year back. Korean men are entirely justified in opposing feminists, but I'm sure Western media has amnesia over that.

    , @Dmon
    @JohnnyWalker123

    As Sarah Jeong and various journalists of her ilk illustrate, once you deny them the opportunity to become comfort women to whatever foreign army is currently running the place, Korean women become so frustrated that they get out of hand.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_and_prostitution_in_South_Korea

    "Until the early 1990s, the term Wianbu (Hangul: 위안부, 慰安妇 "Comfort Women") was often used by South Korean media and officials to refer to prostitutes for the U.S. military,[25][26] but comfort women was also the euphemism used for the sex slaves for the Imperial Japanese Army,[27][28][29] and in order to avoid confusions, the term yanggongju (Yankee princess) replaced wianbu to refer to sexual laborers for the U.S. military.[1][30][31]
    The early 1990s also saw the two women's rights movements diverge: on one side the one representing the Cheongsindae (comfort women for the Japanese military), and on the other side the movement representing the Gijichon (Camptown for the US military). Despite many women on both sides being victims of forced labor, those who supported Cheongsidae believed the kijich'on women were willing participants in the system of prostitution and sexually promiscuous.[32]
    ...
    During the 1960s, camp town prostitution and related businesses generated nearly 25% of the South Korean GNP.[68] In 1962, 20,000 comfort women were registered.[1] The prostitutes attended classes sponsored by their government in English and etiquette to help them sell more effectively.[69] They were praised as "dollar-earning patriots" or "true patriots" by the South Korean government.[36][66][69] In the 1970s one junior high school teacher told his students that "The prostitutes who sell their bodies to the U.S. military are true patriots. Their dollars earned greatly contributes to our national economy. Don't talk behind their back that they are western princesses or U.N. madams."[21]"

  2. The Nuggets, in the first state to legalize marijuana! We’re they named before or after potheads were freed?

    Sorry for double post?

  3. @isteve. Is it true that all great white basketball players come from Europe? The reason being that white children in the US would not risk their safety training in a black sport? So there is no white talent in the USA.

    There is no protest about whites winning awards in basketball? Award winners should look like the players, i.e. Black!

    • Replies: @Truth
    @TruthRevolution.net


    Is it true that all great white basketball players come from Europe?
     
    No, it is true that both the great white basketball players come from Europe.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    @TruthRevolution.net

    TruthRev, actually there will be a recount and co-MVPs. One will be the valedictorian and the other the salutatorian. I just now watched a few minutes of the NBA. In 8 attempted shots by both teams, two baskets were made. Yawn.

  4. Anon[398] • Disclaimer says:

    One thing you notice with the tall Balkan players is that they’re very athletic for their heights. Whereas white American basketball players in the 6’10” and up range tend to be big stiffs like Will Perdue, Bill Wennington, Shawn Bradley, etc.

    I wonder if this is due to higher average height in the Balkans resulting in tall guys who aren’t total outliers athletically. While the big white American ballplayers in that upper height range are more outliers.

    • Agree: JimDandy
    • Disagree: gandydancer
    • Replies: @slumber_j
    @Anon

    Above all I'd say that passing reveals tremendous imagination. Michael Jordan had that.

    Replies: @TorontoTraveller, @Gapeseed

    , @Redman
    @Anon

    Bill Wennington wasn’t a stiff athletically. He was trained as a gymnast in his youth in Canada. He actually ran the court pretty well for a 7-footer.

    The style of play was different back then though. Big white (and black) guys weren’t encouraged to play like guards like they are today.

    Guys like Luke Garza or Kofi Cockburn would easily have been top 5 NBA draft picks in 1987-88. Today they’ll get picked in the low second round.

    Replies: @Anon, @TorontoTraveller, @pepperinmono

    , @angmoh
    @Anon

    Jokic is notably unathletic.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Element59
    @Anon

    Tom Chambers who played in the NBA from 1981-97 was probably the most athletic white player standing 6'10 or taller to ever play. There's some terrific highlights of him on YouTube

    https://youtu.be/7QA5bP1uUXY

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

  5. Big Serb Wins NBA MVP Award

    Which negro will be named co-MVP?

  6. The Denver Nuggets’ uniform sponsor is Western Union. I didn’t know they were still a going concern, but it turns out they are a $10.2 billion company, more expensive than the Nuggets themselves at $1.65 billion.

    • Replies: @Skyler the Weird
    @ScarletNumber

    Somebody has to wire those remittances to Central America.

    , @mmack
    @ScarletNumber

    Western Union went from delivering telegrams to international money 💰 transfers. Very popular with the “without papers” crowd to send remittances back home south of the border.

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    , @slumber_j
    @ScarletNumber

    Thank you, illegal immigrants!!

    I'd be interested to know Western Union's lobbying history.

  7. For those wondering, the last white NBA MVP who went to college in America was

    [MORE]
    Steve Nash, who was born in South Africa and is a Canadian citizen. He went to Santa Clara.

    • Replies: @sb
    @ScarletNumber

    I guess Steve Nash is part of the white South African diaspora
    If he had ended up on the UK or Australia or New Zealand rather than North America ( like many -maybe most -Anglo South Africans ) he most likely would not have chosen basketball as his sport of preference .
    I know that in Australia that many top basketball juniors ,including some who make junior national teams , end up choosing Australian football as their career sport

    Replies: @Niccolo Soldo

    , @Hannah Katz
    @ScarletNumber

    John Stockton?

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

  8. https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/1403950191179403267

    Arkanicide.

    Seth Rich and Jeffrey Epstein weren’t available for comment.

    • Agree: tyrone, Ron Mexico
    • Thanks: bomag, slumber_j
    • Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
    @JohnnyWalker123

    JW, I earlier sent you this story in Steve’s previous post before I saw your post here just now.

    I completely agree that this is very suspicious and deeply disturbing.

    You and I think alike on these stories - keep it up!

    , @Prester John
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Wow! Totally forgot about that meeting. A pity...if walls only had ears. Or hidden mikes.

  9. Call me old fashioned but non inked non pierced white skin is an agreeable look

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
    @sb

    OK Boomer.

    Replies: @obwandiyag

    , @Known Fact
    @sb

    He's saving the space for sponsor logos

    , @Russ
    @sb


    Call me old fashioned but non inked non pierced white skin is an agreeable look
     
    Agreed, but moreso on women -- especially the curvy ones. The unnatural skin discoloration isn't around to distract from the natural beauty.

    If memory serves, the term progression for a certain race has been Negro --> colored --> black --> African-American --> Black. Perhaps ink of all hues under the rainbow will lead to the return of "colored" in that sequence.

    Replies: @additionalMike

    , @James Forrestal
    @sb

    Let's test that theory:

    https://i.postimg.cc/C5GMbg50/Tattoos-Iconic-Celebrities-Get-Digital-Tattoos-12.jpg

    Yeah not really looking like an improvement, to say the least.

  10. The tallest white men on average are EE Savs, Balts, and Nordics
    https://www.worlddata.info/average-bodyheight.php

    The US and Russia are way down the list of male height, but that’s what you get when your average is multi-ethnic. Also possibly the Russian drinking is equal to US pill-popping and crap eating as a stunting force.

  11. I think the athleticism of Balkan players has more to do with the fact that soccer is nearly mandatory throughout Europe. They have much nimbler feet than americans, specially in small spaces. Olajuwon got himself a couple MVPs, also having exceptional feet (and being a former soccer player). No objection about passing, all the Balkans play that way. It is a cultural thing.

    • Thanks: Desiderius
    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @glib

    Olajuwon's story made me realize how little skill has to do with basketball and how much is merely size and athleticis. Hakeem didn't play basketball until he was 15-- he played soccer most of his life, like most kids in his area--- and three years later was only invited to play in college as a walk on.

    Yet by 21 he was an absolute star.

    Why? Because he was tall and athletic.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Frank McGar, @Steve Sailer

    , @Thomasina
    @glib

    Yes, Steve Nash started out playing soccer. He didn't switch over to basketball until he was 12 or 13 years old. Nash's father was a professional soccer player.

    And all of these elite players are just more intelligent too. They are "play makers".

    , @Desiderius
    @glib

    Jordan creating his own shot killed the art of passing stateside but soccer's more or less all passing. It's like the difference between pool and billiards.

    If only that clear out of Russell had been called. Probably too late by then. I blame Ehlo. And Fred Brown.

  12. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1403436507814195203

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Calvin Hobbes, @Pop Warner, @Dmon

    Why are the South Korean feminists all holding signs printed in English?

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy
    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @Steve Sailer

    Everyone wants to be a star.

    , @Skyler the Weird
    @Steve Sailer

    For the eyes of U.S. media? Moron journalists wouldn't report on the protests if the signs were in Korean.

    , @bomag
    @Steve Sailer

    ... 'cause that's what their masters gave them to carry.

    ... so their target audience on twitter and facebook can read them.

    ... the Soros machine just uses English typesetting; makes inventory easier.

    , @Ron Mexico
    @Steve Sailer

    Isn't that every protest everywhere. I wondered as a teenager how so many Iranians could buy US flags to burn.

    , @slumber_j
    @Steve Sailer

    Right.

    , @Gaspar DeLaFunk
    @Steve Sailer

    You're expecting Yiddish?

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country

    , @Foreign expert
    @Steve Sailer

    Feminists in japan use the same hashtags.

    , @Truth
    @Steve Sailer

    ...The Hasbara/CIA Korean translator was sick with Covid for a few days, and the replacement was stuck in customs for a few hours.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Steve Sailer


    Why are the South Korean feminists all holding signs printed in English?
     
    Minoritarianism--in all its toxic variants--was created and incubated in the United States and flows out from there in English.
    , @Andy
    @Steve Sailer

    because they are importing their Culture War from America

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Steve Sailer

    When I was in Haiti just after the earthquake of 2010 CNN had a camera post set up on a balcony close to the wrecked presidential palace and were making large sheets of paper and permanent markers, plus translation and spell-checking facilities, available to anyone who wanted to hold up a protest poster in front of the cameras.

    I imagine this is standard practice. After all, what would be the good of signs in a foreign alphabet for the US TV audience, and how would that help to sell soap?

    In fact you can probably buy "hand drawn" placards saying things like "Up with Democracy, Down with Dictators" on Amazon.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    Why are the South Korean feminists all holding signs printed in English?

     

    CNN! It's the news version of baseball's "Hi, Mom!" and "John 3:16".

    Big Serb

     

    I thought that was part of the coastline. And a Kerouac novel. And an Apple OS.
    , @bigdicknick
    @Steve Sailer

    not many jews are fluent in korean

  13. Anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:

    Anyone notice Khazakstan has been rolling out some formidable lady tennis players?

    My favorite by a long shot is Yulia Putintseva. A Khazak upstart who enjoys creating drama on the court.

    Here she is hassling the umpire over her line calls, then demanding time to re-tie her tennis shoes, thus upsetting her opponent, and ultimately winning the match:

    Here’s a compilation of the wee girl with her bad, yet amusing temper, including scolding her coach during a match:

    • Replies: @Russ
    @Anonymous


    My favorite by a long shot is Yulia Putintseva. A Khazak upstart who enjoys creating drama on the court.

    Here she is hassling the umpire over her line calls, then demanding time to re-tie her tennis shoes, thus upsetting her opponent, and ultimately winning the match
     
    The value of sport in modern society is oft-debated. In this instance, however, tennis should be credited for saving some demure American young male from a certain Khazak mail-order bride. The ulcers would take root long before the non-English-speaking mother-in-law made the trek to these shores.

    Thanks for the highly entertaining videos. If the tennis thing falls flat for Miss Yulia, professional wrestling beckons.
    , @Frank McGar
    @Anonymous

    I played competitive junior tennis for awhile. A lot of mental games played on the court. I was shocked at how much this kind of stuff took place. All's fair I suppose, but I was annoyed when I knew the other player started acting put instead of just playing and seeing who's better on that day. But that was the point of course. Eventually I learned to tune it out and recognized that when a player started playing these games, it often signified a crack in their confidence, as the head games and poor behavior usually started when they began to waiver or the match was getting close and they felt the need to try and get an edge. She's entertaining for sure, but reminds me of the spoiled rich kids I played against who acted like petulant children when things started to get tense. And they were usually both bad winners and bad losers.

    She's obviously a good player, but she doesn't appear to have a lot of power or heavy weapons in her arsenal, and she's pretty short for a pro, when many of the female players now are 6ft tall and can bomb it, so maybe part of her strategy is to try and get her opponents rattled.

  14. Congraulations to Jokic, and may there be many more like this.

    Semi-off topic, but this is not what a long distance race usually looks like. For those who lack patience, the finale is roughly at 10:00 to 12:00.

    • Thanks: S. Anonyia
  15. The tallest people in the world are from Herzegovina nation. But they are split among with Serbs, Bosniac, Montenegrin etc

    The average of Dutch is 183cm (6 feet) and it’s 186cm for Herzegovnian men (6 feet 1)

    In the 1950, French male were 172cm (now its 178cm) and they measured the three ethnic groups in Rwanda :
    ‘Twas (pygmées) were 149cm, Hutus were exactly like French (172) and Tutsi were giants by the time (183cm). But now Hutus have lost 3 cm on average and Tutsi 6 cm and are at 177cm. At that time, Herzegovnia were already 183cm.
    So probably Tutsi, Dinka, Masai, Herzegovnian and an ethnic group in patagonia are the 5 potentially tallest nation.

    For women, it’s Baltic country in particular Estonian.

    Dutch are more of an enigma, maybe their recent stature is due to sexual selection of taller people making more babies in the last 50 years. It’s really something new for them to be that tall

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    @Bruno


    But they are split among with Serbs, Bosniac, Montenegrin etc
     
    Same people. They are all ethnically Serbs.

    Replies: @Bruno, @Bardon Kaldian

  16. Jokic would have made a fine Janissary. Sultan’s loss is the NBA’s gain.

  17. I predict someone with a surnames ending with an “-ich” sound will run for president in the near future. First name Mike.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    @Adam Grant

    You think he’s an impressive guy? Insightful? I don’t see it.
    I respect him though.

    Replies: @Adam Grant

    , @James Forrestal
    @Adam Grant

    Ape Attitude and a lisp -- an unbeatable combination.

  18. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why are the South Korean feminists all holding signs printed in English?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Skyler the Weird, @bomag, @Ron Mexico, @slumber_j, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Foreign expert, @Truth, @AnotherDad, @Andy, @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar, @bigdicknick

    Everyone wants to be a star.

  19. OT – WW Hair intensifies:

    Biracial (looks mostly like a white girl with very curly blond hair) child’s hair cut twice by fellow student and school employee:

    https://www.wnem.com/people-across-the-country-outraged-after-biracial-girl-s-hair-was-cut-twice-at-school/video_5bb5077d-da5d-5cba-a6de-b4983ecd7c9d.html

  20. Nikola isn’t so much of a good player due to athleticism, but because he plays very cunningly. In Serbia we say about him that he’s the man who shown the world that basketball can be played with a brain.

    As for why Dinarids are so strong in some sports – not sure. Perhaps we have more fast-twitch muscle fibers. Or our meat and dairy-heavy diet helps. Or the very “hard” water we have due to being on what’s basically a giant chunk of limestone

    • Thanks: Ben tillman
    • Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Svevlad

    South Slavs and North Germanics are Haplo I,
    East and West Slavs are mostly Haplo R1a.
    That may be an explanation for the height

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M170#Height
    https://imgur.com/a/oXeN5KT

    , @TorontoTraveller
    @Svevlad

    You didn't watch the same highlights montage that I watched.

  21. @ScarletNumber
    The Denver Nuggets' uniform sponsor is Western Union. I didn't know they were still a going concern, but it turns out they are a $10.2 billion company, more expensive than the Nuggets themselves at $1.65 billion.

    Replies: @Skyler the Weird, @mmack, @slumber_j

    Somebody has to wire those remittances to Central America.

  22. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why are the South Korean feminists all holding signs printed in English?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Skyler the Weird, @bomag, @Ron Mexico, @slumber_j, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Foreign expert, @Truth, @AnotherDad, @Andy, @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar, @bigdicknick

    For the eyes of U.S. media? Moron journalists wouldn’t report on the protests if the signs were in Korean.

  23. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why are the South Korean feminists all holding signs printed in English?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Skyler the Weird, @bomag, @Ron Mexico, @slumber_j, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Foreign expert, @Truth, @AnotherDad, @Andy, @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar, @bigdicknick

    … ’cause that’s what their masters gave them to carry.

    … so their target audience on twitter and facebook can read them.

    … the Soros machine just uses English typesetting; makes inventory easier.

  24. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why are the South Korean feminists all holding signs printed in English?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Skyler the Weird, @bomag, @Ron Mexico, @slumber_j, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Foreign expert, @Truth, @AnotherDad, @Andy, @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar, @bigdicknick

    Isn’t that every protest everywhere. I wondered as a teenager how so many Iranians could buy US flags to burn.

  25. Southern Slavs from the Dinaric Alps are the tallest men in the world.
    I remember seeing a photo of two U.N. peace-keeping contingents,
    Southern Slavs (I forget which) and Italians. The Italians looked
    like dwarves compared to the Slavs. The effect was almost comical.

    The Slavs are now taking over the world of tennis.

    By the way, the word “Slav” is derived from ‘slavo’ or ‘slovo’ which
    means ‘word’ in practically all Slavonic languages. So the Slavs
    are literally ‘people of the word.’

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Anon 2


    By the way, the word “Slav” is derived from ‘slavo’ or ‘slovo’ which
    means ‘word’ in practically all Slavonic languages. So the Slavs
    are literally ‘people of the word.’
     
    The word “slave” is derived from “Slav”.
  26. @ScarletNumber
    The Denver Nuggets' uniform sponsor is Western Union. I didn't know they were still a going concern, but it turns out they are a $10.2 billion company, more expensive than the Nuggets themselves at $1.65 billion.

    Replies: @Skyler the Weird, @mmack, @slumber_j

    Western Union went from delivering telegrams to international money 💰 transfers. Very popular with the “without papers” crowd to send remittances back home south of the border.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @mmack

    For a long time, it was also the preferred way to send money to foreign sportsbooks.

  27. Steve says “water polo and volleyball” include Team Handball.

  28. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why are the South Korean feminists all holding signs printed in English?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Skyler the Weird, @bomag, @Ron Mexico, @slumber_j, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Foreign expert, @Truth, @AnotherDad, @Andy, @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar, @bigdicknick

    Right.

  29. @ScarletNumber
    The Denver Nuggets' uniform sponsor is Western Union. I didn't know they were still a going concern, but it turns out they are a $10.2 billion company, more expensive than the Nuggets themselves at $1.65 billion.

    Replies: @Skyler the Weird, @mmack, @slumber_j

    Thank you, illegal immigrants!!

    I’d be interested to know Western Union’s lobbying history.

  30. @Anon
    One thing you notice with the tall Balkan players is that they're very athletic for their heights. Whereas white American basketball players in the 6'10" and up range tend to be big stiffs like Will Perdue, Bill Wennington, Shawn Bradley, etc.

    I wonder if this is due to higher average height in the Balkans resulting in tall guys who aren't total outliers athletically. While the big white American ballplayers in that upper height range are more outliers.

    Replies: @slumber_j, @Redman, @angmoh, @Element59

    Above all I’d say that passing reveals tremendous imagination. Michael Jordan had that.

    • Replies: @TorontoTraveller
    @slumber_j

    What's the highest level of baketball you've ever played?

    , @Gapeseed
    @slumber_j

    Jordan’s passing was good but not super imaginative, as his assists were largely the result of panicked defenses leaving their assignments once Jordan blew past his man. For imagination, watch old clips of Jason Kidd. He wasn’t nearly the threat to score as Jordan or Magic Johnson (a great passer himself), so defenses could play off him. It didn’t matter, though - he read the near future like a basketball Nostradamus and piled up assist after amazing assist as a result.

    Jokic has a lot of Kidd in him.

  31. Love it.
    You didn’t get much of this when the Irish, then the Italians, etc. were the big guys in the sports world. When they let blacks in the names got interesting, first from the southern culture end and now with the weirdo, fake-African names. But this cross-linguistic thing is great.
    The NBA just decided that their best player is a guy named Jock Itch.

    • Replies: @Gaspar DeLaFunk
    @Mr. Peabody

    Who was the EE guy who was a big star,even Jordan loved him,who was killed in a car crash?
    Died in his prime.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  32. sb says:
    @ScarletNumber
    For those wondering, the last white NBA MVP who went to college in America wasSteve Nash, who was born in South Africa and is a Canadian citizen. He went to Santa Clara.

    Replies: @sb, @Hannah Katz

    I guess Steve Nash is part of the white South African diaspora
    If he had ended up on the UK or Australia or New Zealand rather than North America ( like many -maybe most -Anglo South Africans ) he most likely would not have chosen basketball as his sport of preference .
    I know that in Australia that many top basketball juniors ,including some who make junior national teams , end up choosing Australian football as their career sport

    • Replies: @Niccolo Soldo
    @sb

    I played soccer with Steve Nash a few times years ago. He could have easily become a soccer star if he didn't choose basketball. His brother Martin played for the Canadian National Soccer Team and earned 38 caps.

    Martin is only 5'11" though.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  33. @sb
    @ScarletNumber

    I guess Steve Nash is part of the white South African diaspora
    If he had ended up on the UK or Australia or New Zealand rather than North America ( like many -maybe most -Anglo South Africans ) he most likely would not have chosen basketball as his sport of preference .
    I know that in Australia that many top basketball juniors ,including some who make junior national teams , end up choosing Australian football as their career sport

    Replies: @Niccolo Soldo

    I played soccer with Steve Nash a few times years ago. He could have easily become a soccer star if he didn’t choose basketball. His brother Martin played for the Canadian National Soccer Team and earned 38 caps.

    Martin is only 5’11” though.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Niccolo Soldo


    I played soccer with Steve Nash a few times years ago. He could have easily become a soccer star if he didn’t choose basketball. His brother Martin played for the Canadian National Soccer Team and earned 38 caps.

    Martin is only 5’11” though.
     
    Steve Nash is 6'3", which would make him the tallest or among the tallest guys in any typical social setting.

    But on TV running the point in the NBA, he looked like a midget.
  34. Did anyone know someone who died of Covid in their actual life? I mean one? I don’t.

    But there were a lot who died as a result of being intubated early, catching subsequent infections, etc. And of course, all the delayed surgeries and doctor visits.

    And the misery of families not being able to hold the hand of someone dying for other reasons, not being able to see grandmothers in their last year of life.

    Oh, and the mainstreaming of fascist tactics on the population.

    This blog and all the other HBD head cases were irresponsibly pushing predictions of 5 million dead Americans. They demanded action. But notice, the genocidal policies against their people really don’t interest them. That’s just an interesting fact pattern. After all, they kinda like it when the White proles get taught a lesson.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico, CSFurious
    • Disagree: ScarletNumber
    • Thanks: Dumbo
    • Replies: @HA
    @RichardTaylor

    "This blog and all the other HBD head cases were irresponsibly pushing predictions of 5 million dead Americans."

    When did this blog push 5 million? You yourself admitted that the 5 million was the absolute worst case scenario with no intervention, and that was actually in some other blog (namely, ArguablyWrong). Whereas the lower limit of those forecasts was 5K. In other words, the actual forecast you're still so upset about is "between 5K and 5 million". And what's more, you thought even that 5K figure was ridiculously high.

    And yet, here you are still griping -- however inaccurately -- at other people for getting the COVID forecasts wrong?

    Again, if anyone wants to understand why the COVID truthers weren't given more credence, it's because there were way too many self-appointed spokesmen like you making them look like loons.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    , @keypusher
    @RichardTaylor

    Let me guess. You don't know anyone who died of AIDS either.

    Yeah, I know several people who died of covid, and double figures of people who got very sick from it. And intubation and infection-related deaths count too.

    You'd think covid denialists would have just given up at some point, but I suppose the shame would be too great for some of you.

    Replies: @Dumbo, @RichardTaylor

    , @CSFurious
    @RichardTaylor

    My wife's great uncle who was in his 90's and her grandfather who was 89 are the only ones that I am aware of in my "circle". I also live in the "People's Republic of New Jersey" which was allegedly highly infected with "Covid-1984".

  35. For some reason, Europe’s tallest, toughest and most athletic men come from the Balkans. The Dutch are just oversized soy-boys.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @BB753

    Nah, Balkans guys are the same weak, effeminiate peasants they have always been. West Germanic guys still push them around in "their" own "countries".


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIdrTSjzGKY

    , @Daniel H
    @BB753


    For some reason, Europe’s tallest, toughest and most athletic men come from the Balkans. The Dutch are just oversized soy-boys.
     
    The Balkans were a major recruiting ground of the Roman army.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @dropkicktheroos
    @BB753

    "The Dutch are just oversized soy-boys". Screw you whites like eating cheese so transparent skin whites are cheesehead girlies and ricer cars blow away disposable german crap.

    , @Bla
    @BB753

    To name just a few sports, the Dutch dominate heavyweight kickboxing. Yup, even if you don't count those of non European ancestry. They are also among the most successful in Judo.
    And let's not start about their traditional position and importance in the world of soccer.

  36. Did he do it ….on his knees?

    Screw pro sports.

  37. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why are the South Korean feminists all holding signs printed in English?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Skyler the Weird, @bomag, @Ron Mexico, @slumber_j, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Foreign expert, @Truth, @AnotherDad, @Andy, @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar, @bigdicknick

    You’re expecting Yiddish?

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    That's just for payroll.

  38. @glib
    I think the athleticism of Balkan players has more to do with the fact that soccer is nearly mandatory throughout Europe. They have much nimbler feet than americans, specially in small spaces. Olajuwon got himself a couple MVPs, also having exceptional feet (and being a former soccer player). No objection about passing, all the Balkans play that way. It is a cultural thing.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Thomasina, @Desiderius

    Olajuwon’s story made me realize how little skill has to do with basketball and how much is merely size and athleticis. Hakeem didn’t play basketball until he was 15– he played soccer most of his life, like most kids in his area— and three years later was only invited to play in college as a walk on.

    Yet by 21 he was an absolute star.

    Why? Because he was tall and athletic.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @R.G. Camara

    I'll be even more specific. Olajuwon is a HOFer because of his spin move. Was it a travel? Regardless, the move itself was like Ben Johnson coming out of the blocks a split second ahead of every other elite sprinter.

    Replies: @Bostonvegas

    , @Frank McGar
    @R.G. Camara

    Tim Duncan too. Didn't start playing until highschool. Smart + big and athletic, and pretty much dominated the league as far as power forwards go.

    , @Steve Sailer
    @R.G. Camara

    Olajuwon had a big break when he arrived at the U. of Houston as a very raw prospect. Houston Rockets Hall of Famer Moses Malone wanted somebody big and athletic to practice against over summer, so he had Olajuwon play him many hours per week.

    But Olajuwon kept getting better into his early 30s, winning MVP in 1994

    Replies: @Desiderius

  39. More evidence of white supremacy…

  40. Slightly off topic perhaps, but speaking of the pronunciation of Nikola Jokić’s name:

    Here’s a shout-out to Christopher “Mad Dog” Russo, who is not only the worst sportscaster who ever lived, but has nevertheless managed to become rich and famous casting sports as ignorantly as one can imagine.

    One of a thousand examples. A few weeks ago, I heard him pronounce the name of Jokić, an athlete having an MVP season in one of the world’s most popular sports, as “jock itch.” Cross my heart and hope to die!

  41. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why are the South Korean feminists all holding signs printed in English?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Skyler the Weird, @bomag, @Ron Mexico, @slumber_j, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Foreign expert, @Truth, @AnotherDad, @Andy, @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar, @bigdicknick

    Feminists in japan use the same hashtags.

  42. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1403436507814195203

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Calvin Hobbes, @Pop Warner, @Dmon

    No wonder South Korea’s TFR is horrific.

    All Kim has to do is wait.

  43. Anonymous[520] • Disclaimer says:

    Big Serb Wins NBA MVP Award

    The Serbs are a talented, independent, White community.

    Which is why they had to be bombed and dismembered.

  44. @TruthRevolution.net
    @isteve. Is it true that all great white basketball players come from Europe? The reason being that white children in the US would not risk their safety training in a black sport? So there is no white talent in the USA.

    There is no protest about whites winning awards in basketball? Award winners should look like the players, i.e. Black!

    Replies: @Truth, @Buffalo Joe

    Is it true that all great white basketball players come from Europe?

    No, it is true that both the great white basketball players come from Europe.

    • LOL: Ben tillman
  45. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why are the South Korean feminists all holding signs printed in English?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Skyler the Weird, @bomag, @Ron Mexico, @slumber_j, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Foreign expert, @Truth, @AnotherDad, @Andy, @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar, @bigdicknick

    …The Hasbara/CIA Korean translator was sick with Covid for a few days, and the replacement was stuck in customs for a few hours.

  46. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/1403950191179403267

    https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1403917776465563651

    Arkanicide.

    Seth Rich and Jeffrey Epstein weren't available for comment.

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe, @Prester John

    JW, I earlier sent you this story in Steve’s previous post before I saw your post here just now.

    I completely agree that this is very suspicious and deeply disturbing.

    You and I think alike on these stories – keep it up!

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
  47. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why are the South Korean feminists all holding signs printed in English?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Skyler the Weird, @bomag, @Ron Mexico, @slumber_j, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Foreign expert, @Truth, @AnotherDad, @Andy, @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar, @bigdicknick

    Why are the South Korean feminists all holding signs printed in English?

    Minoritarianism–in all its toxic variants–was created and incubated in the United States and flows out from there in English.

    • Agree: BluEidDvl
  48. There is a 22 year old Greek guy (looks like a Greek god) who is up on Djokovic 2 sets – love in the French Open final at the moment. Djokovic is of course the greatest Serbian tennis player ever.

    Have there ever been tennis hooligans? Serbs versus Greeks sounds like it would be awesome.

    • Replies: @Indigenous Greek
    @Morton's toes

    That Greek guy is half Russian. His mother, a pro tennis player herself, is the daughter of Soviet professional footballer Sergei Salnikov (having good genes sure helps!). He has the potential to have a career as good as Andy Murray's, if he doesn't succumb to the laziness that plagues modern Greeks.

    However, there won't be any Serb-Greek hooligan clash. There's brotherly love between them and they routinely band together against Croats and Albanians instead. Religion trumps blood in this case.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @Morton's toes

    Stefanos Tsitsipas. Did well in the Australian Open earlier this year too. Looks a little like a young Bjorn Borg.

    Replies: @Matra

    , @Matra
    @Morton's toes

    Have there ever been tennis hooligans? Serbs versus Greeks sounds like it would be awesome.

    Sort of. After numerous match-disrupting incidents involving flag-waving Serb, Croat, & Greek tennis fans in Melbourne the Australian Open banned flags. This was maybe ten or so years ago and the violence was very minor compared to football hooliganism.

    The Serbian Djokovic ended up winning today's Roland Garros final. He'll likely beat out both Nadal & Federer for most major titles ever as he's now only one behind them with 19 in total. Outside of Wimbledon the 40yr old Federer doesn't really have much chance of adding to his tally and even there Djokovic will be favourite. Nadal could still win a couple more French & possibly US Opens but unless Djokovic gets injured he should overtake them within the next year, maybe even by the end of this year's US Open.

    Replies: @sb

    , @Agathoklis
    @Morton's toes

    Greek and Serbs fans cooperate. Some football fans will also do the business on opposing fans of Serbian or Greek clubs even if from the same country. For example, if Serbian Red Star is visiting Athens and they are playing Greek club, Panathinaikos, Greek Olympiakos fans will give Panathinaikos fans a hard time as Red Star and Olympiakos are brother clubs.

    Tsitsipas will be a grand slam winner shortly. Very talented.

  49. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/1403950191179403267

    https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1403917776465563651

    Arkanicide.

    Seth Rich and Jeffrey Epstein weren't available for comment.

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe, @Prester John

    Wow! Totally forgot about that meeting. A pity…if walls only had ears. Or hidden mikes.

  50. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why are the South Korean feminists all holding signs printed in English?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Skyler the Weird, @bomag, @Ron Mexico, @slumber_j, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Foreign expert, @Truth, @AnotherDad, @Andy, @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar, @bigdicknick

    because they are importing their Culture War from America

  51. People form the Balkans have long been known to be among the tallest whites (along the Dutch), so no wonder players from the former Yugoslavia excel in basketball.

  52. @sb
    Call me old fashioned but non inked non pierced white skin is an agreeable look

    Replies: @Supply and Demand, @Known Fact, @Russ, @James Forrestal

    OK Boomer.

    • Disagree: Ben tillman
    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    @Supply and Demand

    Inking and piercing is a class thing (like everything is) not a generation thing.

    Lower class people disfigure themselves. Upper class people, except entertainers, know better than to.

    Class, class, class. Is the only yardstick. Sorry, but anything else is a farce.

  53. I’ve noted that a lot of the best athletes have surnames that end with an “-ich” sound, which usually denotes Balkan ancestry

    I remember getting into it with a Serb nationalist (is there any other kind?) about Pete Maravich. He claimed Maravich as a Serb. I wanted to know how he could be Serb if he was born in the U.S. to parents who had also been born in the U.S.; Pete probably didn’t spend 10 minutes in Serbia his entire life. Didn’t matter he said. I discovered this is the widespread view in Serbia–Pete Maravich is one of ours (and by extension not one of yours).

    Interestingly, they don’t make the same claim with convicted felon Rod Blagojevich, not anymore anyway. He’s 100% American.

  54. A white guy? You gotta be jokic

    At any rate let the endorsement offers pour in — “This is Nikola, for Ricola.” And of course, what better spokesman for Lotrimin, Lamisill or fast-actin’ Tinactin?

  55. The ending -ić in Slavic languages like Croatian means “son of” so no surprise that there are lots of sons of Ivan and Peter in that part of the world. They have not got round to using the ending -dottir as in woke, but freezing, Iceland.

    However today the England soccer team defeated the might of Croatia and their fancy-pants Real Madrid star Luka Modrić with the winning goal scored by a fine, solid old English name, Sterling. Raheem Sterling, that is.

    Other English names in the team were Phillips, Stones, Kane, and Walker, though my favorite is the young Mason Mount, one of whose childhood heroes on whom he modeled himself was that same Luka Modrić, who spent 4 years as player in London at Tottenham Hotspur before he buggered off to Real Madrid for a fee of a few billion dollars in 2012 so as to avoid the strictures of the UK tax regime.

    In Spain in 2018 Modrić was sentenced to a suspended 8 1/2 month prison sentence for tax evasion and a fine of 438,000 euros plus one million euros.

    He has been dogged by astonishingly bad luck, seeing that his former club chairman at Dinamo Zagreb was also jailed for 6 1/2 years for pocketing a few millions as part of the deal that took the star to England in 2008. The jailed crook claimed that Modric himself was involved in the scam and had kept back several millions for himself in offshore bank accounts that should have been destined for his benefactor.

    Young Mason Mount who faced off against Luka Modrić today had said that he looked forward to playing against his hero, as he had studied all his tricks and moves for years as a young fan! Hopefully he has confined his studies to on-the-field maneuvers.

    • Replies: @Niccolo Soldo
    @Jonathan Mason

    You forgot to mention that Raheem Sterling is black.

    , @Dan Hayes
    @Jonathan Mason

    The BLM kneeling English team defeated the upright-standing Croatians! Is there no justice in the world when these Slimy Limeys triumph?

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @Jonathan Mason

  56. @sb
    Call me old fashioned but non inked non pierced white skin is an agreeable look

    Replies: @Supply and Demand, @Known Fact, @Russ, @James Forrestal

    He’s saving the space for sponsor logos

  57. @Anon
    One thing you notice with the tall Balkan players is that they're very athletic for their heights. Whereas white American basketball players in the 6'10" and up range tend to be big stiffs like Will Perdue, Bill Wennington, Shawn Bradley, etc.

    I wonder if this is due to higher average height in the Balkans resulting in tall guys who aren't total outliers athletically. While the big white American ballplayers in that upper height range are more outliers.

    Replies: @slumber_j, @Redman, @angmoh, @Element59

    Bill Wennington wasn’t a stiff athletically. He was trained as a gymnast in his youth in Canada. He actually ran the court pretty well for a 7-footer.

    The style of play was different back then though. Big white (and black) guys weren’t encouraged to play like guards like they are today.

    Guys like Luke Garza or Kofi Cockburn would easily have been top 5 NBA draft picks in 1987-88. Today they’ll get picked in the low second round.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Redman

    Garza's mom is Muslim from Bosnia, so South Slavic, and she comes from a quite sporty family, she played volleyball too and now works as an employee of the BIH embassy. Luka's cousin Amar Alibegović plays pro basketball in Italy. Their uncles also played basketball and handball quite well.

    Granted biggest star of the family would be their grandfather Refik Muftić who was a soccer goalkeeper, probably second best in ex Yugoslavia.

    On other hand his American father was also sportsman, so he has quite genetic pedigre.

    , @TorontoTraveller
    @Redman

    Bill Wennigton was the NBA guest at Olympia basketball camp in Ontario when I was 12 or 13. His response when asked "Who is your favourite player?" was: "Me. And you had better be your own favourite player too." The counsellors all told stories of playing after-hours basketball games - while we were doing tie-dye or singing Kumbahyah around a fire - with Bill and said he was a wonderful guy.

    , @pepperinmono
    @Redman

    96-8 Bulls
    Wennington was pretty good shooter from 15 foot
    So was Luc Longley
    Latter was very good passer
    Neither could jump though
    Forgetting very versatile 6’11’’ Tony Kukoc from Croatia from same team
    Great passer, nicknamed ‘’ the Waiter’’
    From same team

  58. After an ankle injury, Jokić developed a new move, an oddly off-balance shot with only the right leg used to push off.

    Sports commentators call it the “Sombor Shuffle” after his hometown.

    Okay, black centers – when are you going to develop and demand recognition for your signature moves? And, will you name them after Woke landmarks? Who’s going to create the “Tulsa Two-Step”?

  59. And what about the “ovas”?

    Paris tennis:

    But over the past few days, Barbora Krejcikova has made the feat look easy. One day after a life-changing afternoon in her tennis career when she beat Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova to win a surprise first singles grand slam title, the Czech returned to the same court with her longtime partner, Katerina Siniakova, and they defeated Bethanie Mattek-Sands and Iga Swiatek 6-4, 6-2 in a match between the two most recent singles champions.

    They probably beat other “ovas” in the earlier rounds. Osaka’s a head case and Serena’s over the hill.

    Then there’s Djokovic, who reached the final.

  60. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why are the South Korean feminists all holding signs printed in English?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Skyler the Weird, @bomag, @Ron Mexico, @slumber_j, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Foreign expert, @Truth, @AnotherDad, @Andy, @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar, @bigdicknick

    When I was in Haiti just after the earthquake of 2010 CNN had a camera post set up on a balcony close to the wrecked presidential palace and were making large sheets of paper and permanent markers, plus translation and spell-checking facilities, available to anyone who wanted to hold up a protest poster in front of the cameras.

    I imagine this is standard practice. After all, what would be the good of signs in a foreign alphabet for the US TV audience, and how would that help to sell soap?

    In fact you can probably buy “hand drawn” placards saying things like “Up with Democracy, Down with Dictators” on Amazon.

  61. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1403436507814195203

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Calvin Hobbes, @Pop Warner, @Dmon

    Are the Korean ladies advocating that African men be encouraged to immigrate to Korea?

  62. On point there’s this from his greatest fan (no slouch around the hoop himself):

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=djokovic+playing+basketball&&view=detail&mid=86EA8837E7C04F6DC6C286EA8837E7C04F6DC6C2&&FORM=VDRVSR

    Notice he reenacts Jokic one on one with Doncic

  63. @Jonathan Mason
    The ending -ić in Slavic languages like Croatian means "son of" so no surprise that there are lots of sons of Ivan and Peter in that part of the world. They have not got round to using the ending -dottir as in woke, but freezing, Iceland.

    However today the England soccer team defeated the might of Croatia and their fancy-pants Real Madrid star Luka Modrić with the winning goal scored by a fine, solid old English name, Sterling. Raheem Sterling, that is.

    Other English names in the team were Phillips, Stones, Kane, and Walker, though my favorite is the young Mason Mount, one of whose childhood heroes on whom he modeled himself was that same Luka Modrić, who spent 4 years as player in London at Tottenham Hotspur before he buggered off to Real Madrid for a fee of a few billion dollars in 2012 so as to avoid the strictures of the UK tax regime.

    In Spain in 2018 Modrić was sentenced to a suspended 8 1/2 month prison sentence for tax evasion and a fine of 438,000 euros plus one million euros.

    He has been dogged by astonishingly bad luck, seeing that his former club chairman at Dinamo Zagreb was also jailed for 6 1/2 years for pocketing a few millions as part of the deal that took the star to England in 2008. The jailed crook claimed that Modric himself was involved in the scam and had kept back several millions for himself in offshore bank accounts that should have been destined for his benefactor.

    Young Mason Mount who faced off against Luka Modrić today had said that he looked forward to playing against his hero, as he had studied all his tricks and moves for years as a young fan! Hopefully he has confined his studies to on-the-field maneuvers.

    Replies: @Niccolo Soldo, @Dan Hayes

    You forgot to mention that Raheem Sterling is black.

  64. Jokić is an exceptional passer for a center. He brings to basketball some skills from other sports that are big in the Balkans like water polo and volleyball

    Team handball, too:

  65. Passing to the open man and playing team defense is white man’s basketball, according to the late Moses Malone.

    • Thanks: Calvin Hobbes
  66. @Jonathan Mason
    The ending -ić in Slavic languages like Croatian means "son of" so no surprise that there are lots of sons of Ivan and Peter in that part of the world. They have not got round to using the ending -dottir as in woke, but freezing, Iceland.

    However today the England soccer team defeated the might of Croatia and their fancy-pants Real Madrid star Luka Modrić with the winning goal scored by a fine, solid old English name, Sterling. Raheem Sterling, that is.

    Other English names in the team were Phillips, Stones, Kane, and Walker, though my favorite is the young Mason Mount, one of whose childhood heroes on whom he modeled himself was that same Luka Modrić, who spent 4 years as player in London at Tottenham Hotspur before he buggered off to Real Madrid for a fee of a few billion dollars in 2012 so as to avoid the strictures of the UK tax regime.

    In Spain in 2018 Modrić was sentenced to a suspended 8 1/2 month prison sentence for tax evasion and a fine of 438,000 euros plus one million euros.

    He has been dogged by astonishingly bad luck, seeing that his former club chairman at Dinamo Zagreb was also jailed for 6 1/2 years for pocketing a few millions as part of the deal that took the star to England in 2008. The jailed crook claimed that Modric himself was involved in the scam and had kept back several millions for himself in offshore bank accounts that should have been destined for his benefactor.

    Young Mason Mount who faced off against Luka Modrić today had said that he looked forward to playing against his hero, as he had studied all his tricks and moves for years as a young fan! Hopefully he has confined his studies to on-the-field maneuvers.

    Replies: @Niccolo Soldo, @Dan Hayes

    The BLM kneeling English team defeated the upright-standing Croatians! Is there no justice in the world when these Slimy Limeys triumph?

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
    @Dan Hayes

    Chauvin was convicted, BLM is in disarray and America has moved on--yet England forges on with its embarrassing self-righteous theatrics. They actually look ridiculous, like Lloyd Christmas saying "No way!" after seeing the moon landing headline.

    Anyway their kneeling isn't just about BLM, it's about shaming white America. Imagine the nerve of these monstrous hypocrites--same people who got millions killed in Biafra when they enforced a Nigerian food blockade. But that was so long ago and who remembers the 1960s anyway?

    Replies: @Matra

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Dan Hayes

    If a pregame kneel is a winning strategy, then I am all for it.

    People have often prayed for victory before sports events, but maybe it is the kneeling does the trick, not the praying.

    More credit should be given to Tim Tebow for starting the kneeling meme, which now seems to have taken on a life of its own and ditched the silly idea that there is a God who acts as a sports referee and awards touchdowns and goals to whichever team offers the greatest obeisance.

    Kneeling, on the other hand, has the psychological effect of putting the opposition team off their game and influencing the referee. Since the England team is mostly black or mixed race players, the referee cannot afford to appear to be Chauvinistic so he will give favorable rulings.

    Kneel on, lads!

    When Wales come up against Italy, we can expect to see kneeling by the Welsh players counteracted by Italian players crossing themselves and invoking the Virgin Mary, and we will get a better empirical understanding of which is more effective.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

  67. O/T. DeGrom’s ERA is now down to .56. (Yes, already the most iconic number in American sport.) A recent video showed him fussing with his belt; a sticky subject; who knows for sure.

  68. My half Serbian son is turning 12 this week. He has exploded in height and is now 5’7”. I expect him to surpass his old man in the next few years.

    Great jumper. But turned into a lazy lump by computers. I’m prepping my house to sale (taking advantage of Calizuela prices) and I’ll be getting him into weight lifting after that.

    Next year shooting for both him and his sister.

    Serbs and others have been raped and pillaged by every barbarian horde on the planet, as I tell my wife. The result is monsterously tall and strong men. My son will not be an exception.

  69. @glib
    I think the athleticism of Balkan players has more to do with the fact that soccer is nearly mandatory throughout Europe. They have much nimbler feet than americans, specially in small spaces. Olajuwon got himself a couple MVPs, also having exceptional feet (and being a former soccer player). No objection about passing, all the Balkans play that way. It is a cultural thing.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Thomasina, @Desiderius

    Yes, Steve Nash started out playing soccer. He didn’t switch over to basketball until he was 12 or 13 years old. Nash’s father was a professional soccer player.

    And all of these elite players are just more intelligent too. They are “play makers”.

  70. Off topic…

    There’s got to be hundreds of millions of dollars worth of this Covid-19 fraud! But I guess that’s a feature not a bug!

    S. FL Sun Sentienl, 06/12/21 – City commissioner and family got questionable COVID-19 loans, records show

    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/north-lauderdale/fl-ne-regina-martin-family-ppp-loans-20210612-ijvczyjgn5cqnoslkldf447szi-story.html

    “A city commissioner and members of her extended family received COVID-19 relief money for businesses they don’t appear to own, records show.

    North Lauderdale City Commissioner Regina Martin, her brother-in-law and her niece-in-law collected $100,000 in all from the federal Paycheck Protection Program, records show.

    Records from the Small Business Administration, which oversaw the program meant to help keep small businesses afloat during the pandemic, show:

    Martin received a $20,000 PPP loan in July, using a code earmarked for insurance agencies and brokerages. She received a second $20,000 loan in February, using a code earmarked for tax preparation services. In paperwork for both loans, she reported being the sole employee.

    Martin’s brother-in-law, Andre Archat, received a $20,000 loan in July. The code used was for insurance agencies and brokerages.

    Jazzmine Archat, who is Andre Archat’s daughter and Martin’s niece by marriage, received a $20,000 PPP loan in July, using a code for short-term lodging in the travel industry. She received a second $20,000 loan in April, using a code for “personal services.”

    The problem: Martin doesn’t work in insurance or tax preparation and isn’t licensed as an insurance agent in Florida, despite getting a loan intended for an insurance business and another for tax preparation.

    Financial disclosures she submitted to the city show her only employment outside North Lauderdale City Hall is at The Embassy Academy, a K-12 school. On her City Hall profile, she lists herself as the senior pastor at Embassy Church of South Florida, founder and operator of Embassy College and The Embassy Academy.

    On her loan applications, she used the home address of Tamarac City Commissioner Marlon Bolton as a business address.

    In Andre Archat’s case, he doesn’t own a business in an insurance category as his loan listed. He told the South Florida Sun Sentinel the loan was supposed to be for his marketing consulting group called Innov8. He says someone at SBA must have made a mistake. A spokeswoman for SBA declined to comment.

    Jazzmine Archat doesn’t own a travel-related business as listed in her loan. Her father said both loans were supposed to be for her business JazzG, where she works as a cosmetologist doing “lashes.” She does not have a cosmetology license, which the state requires for lash work”…”

    Bio for the N. Lauderdale Commissioner Dr. Regina Martin:

    https://nlauderdale.org/quick_links/city_commission/commissioner_regina_martin.php

  71. @Anon 2
    Southern Slavs from the Dinaric Alps are the tallest men in the world.
    I remember seeing a photo of two U.N. peace-keeping contingents,
    Southern Slavs (I forget which) and Italians. The Italians looked
    like dwarves compared to the Slavs. The effect was almost comical.

    The Slavs are now taking over the world of tennis.

    By the way, the word “Slav” is derived from ‘slavo’ or ‘slovo’ which
    means ‘word’ in practically all Slavonic languages. So the Slavs
    are literally ‘people of the word.’

    Replies: @Anon

    By the way, the word “Slav” is derived from ‘slavo’ or ‘slovo’ which
    means ‘word’ in practically all Slavonic languages. So the Slavs
    are literally ‘people of the word.’

    The word “slave” is derived from “Slav”.

  72. (((NBA))) awards a MVP to a white player at the height of the white backlash against BLM protests.

  73. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1403436507814195203

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Calvin Hobbes, @Pop Warner, @Dmon

    South Korea was/is run by a feminist cult. Politicians at the highest levels were implicated and some people were conveniently suicided when the story broke a few year back. Korean men are entirely justified in opposing feminists, but I’m sure Western media has amnesia over that.

  74. @Dan Hayes
    @Jonathan Mason

    The BLM kneeling English team defeated the upright-standing Croatians! Is there no justice in the world when these Slimy Limeys triumph?

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @Jonathan Mason

    Chauvin was convicted, BLM is in disarray and America has moved on–yet England forges on with its embarrassing self-righteous theatrics. They actually look ridiculous, like Lloyd Christmas saying “No way!” after seeing the moon landing headline.

    Anyway their kneeling isn’t just about BLM, it’s about shaming white America. Imagine the nerve of these monstrous hypocrites–same people who got millions killed in Biafra when they enforced a Nigerian food blockade. But that was so long ago and who remembers the 1960s anyway?

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Matra
    @Bragadocious

    yet England forges on with its embarrassing self-righteous theatrics

    Only England?

    Republic of Ireland players took the knee last week in Budapest, and were roundly booed for it by the Hungarian spectators.

  75. OT – UK NHS changes how they count COVID cases. But only from now, not retroactively:

    The NHS just changed how they count Covid “cases”…here’s why. NHS source claims new data will be “more realistic” in the future, by removing “incidental” Covid from the records.

    https://off-guardian.org/2021/06/11/the-nhs-just-changed-how-they-count-covid-cases-heres-why/

    Gosh, I wonder why they would do that?

  76. @Svevlad
    Nikola isn't so much of a good player due to athleticism, but because he plays very cunningly. In Serbia we say about him that he's the man who shown the world that basketball can be played with a brain.

    As for why Dinarids are so strong in some sports - not sure. Perhaps we have more fast-twitch muscle fibers. Or our meat and dairy-heavy diet helps. Or the very "hard" water we have due to being on what's basically a giant chunk of limestone

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @TorontoTraveller

    South Slavs and North Germanics are Haplo I,
    East and West Slavs are mostly Haplo R1a.
    That may be an explanation for the height

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M170#Height

    View post on imgur.com

  77. @ScarletNumber
    For those wondering, the last white NBA MVP who went to college in America wasSteve Nash, who was born in South Africa and is a Canadian citizen. He went to Santa Clara.

    Replies: @sb, @Hannah Katz

    John Stockton?

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Hannah Katz

    Stockton never won. His best finish was 7th in 89 behind Magic, Jordan, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing, Hakeem, and Sir Charles.

  78. And thus, just to raise the ugly head of the elephant in the room, basketball supremacy is not genetic, it is environmental. Practice, practice, practice.

    And don’t tell me its tallness, tallness, tallness. Sure, you have to be tall to succeed in basketball. But there are many tall people in the world. Why would Yugoslavian tall people be more genetically predisposed than other tall people?

    Maybe because they are genetically predisposed to practice, practice, practice . . .

  79. @Supply and Demand
    @sb

    OK Boomer.

    Replies: @obwandiyag

    Inking and piercing is a class thing (like everything is) not a generation thing.

    Lower class people disfigure themselves. Upper class people, except entertainers, know better than to.

    Class, class, class. Is the only yardstick. Sorry, but anything else is a farce.

  80. Sunday OT: For the previous article Predicting the Future is Hard:

    Dr. David Keller predicts flyover country:

    Thus there came a time when all that nine hundred and ninety-nine out of a thousand of the population ever saw of the rural districts was bird’s-eye views from some thousand feet up in the air. Here and there a last survivor remained true to his early training and lived in the country. These scattered suburbanites were soon lost sight of by the city dwellers. They were so scattered that their in- fluence, business, and vote was considered not worth the cost of procuring. They were not only ignored — they were forgotten.

    One-Way Tunnel from Wonder Stories, January, 1935

  81. I’ve noted that a lot of the best athletes have surnames that end with an “-ich” sound, which usually denotes Balkan ancestry…Nikola Jokić from Serbia…

    Jock-itch

  82. Anonymous[316] • Disclaimer says:
    @BB753
    For some reason, Europe's tallest, toughest and most athletic men come from the Balkans. The Dutch are just oversized soy-boys.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Daniel H, @dropkicktheroos, @Bla

    Nah, Balkans guys are the same weak, effeminiate peasants they have always been. West Germanic guys still push them around in “their” own “countries”.

  83. Anon[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @Redman
    @Anon

    Bill Wennington wasn’t a stiff athletically. He was trained as a gymnast in his youth in Canada. He actually ran the court pretty well for a 7-footer.

    The style of play was different back then though. Big white (and black) guys weren’t encouraged to play like guards like they are today.

    Guys like Luke Garza or Kofi Cockburn would easily have been top 5 NBA draft picks in 1987-88. Today they’ll get picked in the low second round.

    Replies: @Anon, @TorontoTraveller, @pepperinmono

    Garza’s mom is Muslim from Bosnia, so South Slavic, and she comes from a quite sporty family, she played volleyball too and now works as an employee of the BIH embassy. Luka’s cousin Amar Alibegović plays pro basketball in Italy. Their uncles also played basketball and handball quite well.

    Granted biggest star of the family would be their grandfather Refik Muftić who was a soccer goalkeeper, probably second best in ex Yugoslavia.

    On other hand his American father was also sportsman, so he has quite genetic pedigre.

  84. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why are the South Korean feminists all holding signs printed in English?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Skyler the Weird, @bomag, @Ron Mexico, @slumber_j, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Foreign expert, @Truth, @AnotherDad, @Andy, @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar, @bigdicknick

    Why are the South Korean feminists all holding signs printed in English?

    CNN! It’s the news version of baseball’s “Hi, Mom!” and “John 3:16”.

    Big Serb

    I thought that was part of the coastline. And a Kerouac novel. And an Apple OS.

  85. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1403436507814195203

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Calvin Hobbes, @Pop Warner, @Dmon

    As Sarah Jeong and various journalists of her ilk illustrate, once you deny them the opportunity to become comfort women to whatever foreign army is currently running the place, Korean women become so frustrated that they get out of hand.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_and_prostitution_in_South_Korea

    “Until the early 1990s, the term Wianbu (Hangul: 위안부, 慰安妇 “Comfort Women”) was often used by South Korean media and officials to refer to prostitutes for the U.S. military,[25][26] but comfort women was also the euphemism used for the sex slaves for the Imperial Japanese Army,[27][28][29] and in order to avoid confusions, the term yanggongju (Yankee princess) replaced wianbu to refer to sexual laborers for the U.S. military.[1][30][31]
    The early 1990s also saw the two women’s rights movements diverge: on one side the one representing the Cheongsindae (comfort women for the Japanese military), and on the other side the movement representing the Gijichon (Camptown for the US military). Despite many women on both sides being victims of forced labor, those who supported Cheongsidae believed the kijich’on women were willing participants in the system of prostitution and sexually promiscuous.[32]

    During the 1960s, camp town prostitution and related businesses generated nearly 25% of the South Korean GNP.[68] In 1962, 20,000 comfort women were registered.[1] The prostitutes attended classes sponsored by their government in English and etiquette to help them sell more effectively.[69] They were praised as “dollar-earning patriots” or “true patriots” by the South Korean government.[36][66][69] In the 1970s one junior high school teacher told his students that “The prostitutes who sell their bodies to the U.S. military are true patriots. Their dollars earned greatly contributes to our national economy. Don’t talk behind their back that they are western princesses or U.N. madams.”[21]”

  86. @Morton's toes
    There is a 22 year old Greek guy (looks like a Greek god) who is up on Djokovic 2 sets - love in the French Open final at the moment. Djokovic is of course the greatest Serbian tennis player ever.

    Have there ever been tennis hooligans? Serbs versus Greeks sounds like it would be awesome.

    Replies: @Indigenous Greek, @Dave Pinsen, @Matra, @Agathoklis

    That Greek guy is half Russian. His mother, a pro tennis player herself, is the daughter of Soviet professional footballer Sergei Salnikov (having good genes sure helps!). He has the potential to have a career as good as Andy Murray’s, if he doesn’t succumb to the laziness that plagues modern Greeks.

    However, there won’t be any Serb-Greek hooligan clash. There’s brotherly love between them and they routinely band together against Croats and Albanians instead. Religion trumps blood in this case.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Indigenous Greek

    I saw the Greek-Bulgarian World Cup soccer game in 1994 in Chicago. The Bulgarians won 4-0 on their way to the semifinals. The Greek fans told me they liked the Bulgarians and wished them well.

  87. I don’t know how the awardee is picked but I smell a PR ploy in this choice. The NBA wants those fans who buy their uniforms and shoes more that the ones that loot them to come back.

  88. @Adam Grant
    I predict someone with a surnames ending with an “-ich” sound will run for president in the near future. First name Mike.

    Replies: @Danindc, @James Forrestal

    You think he’s an impressive guy? Insightful? I don’t see it.
    I respect him though.

    • Replies: @Adam Grant
    @Danindc

    Cernovich is mentally tough and quick on his feet. Good chance he runs for president IMO. Impressive and insightful? Yes.

    90% of Trump's appointments were really bad. Cernovich would do much better.

    Cernovich thinks immigrants coming to our country should have to pass an IQ test. Stefan Possony would have liked that, I believe.

    Hispanic males like a strong horse, so Cerno might get a good percentage of their vote.

    Robert Barnes said that the dumbest lawyer he ever faced in court (3X) was Kamala Harris. He's also pointed out that she's mean and corrupt. I'd enjoy watching Cerno eviscerate Kamala in presidential debates.

    Replies: @Anon

  89. This is actually the Croatian of the moment. He is 205 lbs. calling out the big 250 lb. heavyweights.

  90. Steve –
    My wife can identify nationality by the name ( and usually religion) for all the -ic an -ich types.

    Apparently it’s a lot like Mc being Irish and mac being Scottish.

    Not that I get it…🧐

    • Replies: @Ian M.
    @Deadite


    Apparently it’s a lot like Mc being Irish and mac being Scottish.
     
    That's not really true. Mac is always Scottish, or nearly always, but Mc can be Irish or Scottish.
  91. @Dan Hayes
    @Jonathan Mason

    The BLM kneeling English team defeated the upright-standing Croatians! Is there no justice in the world when these Slimy Limeys triumph?

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @Jonathan Mason

    If a pregame kneel is a winning strategy, then I am all for it.

    People have often prayed for victory before sports events, but maybe it is the kneeling does the trick, not the praying.

    More credit should be given to Tim Tebow for starting the kneeling meme, which now seems to have taken on a life of its own and ditched the silly idea that there is a God who acts as a sports referee and awards touchdowns and goals to whichever team offers the greatest obeisance.

    Kneeling, on the other hand, has the psychological effect of putting the opposition team off their game and influencing the referee. Since the England team is mostly black or mixed race players, the referee cannot afford to appear to be Chauvinistic so he will give favorable rulings.

    Kneel on, lads!

    When Wales come up against Italy, we can expect to see kneeling by the Welsh players counteracted by Italian players crossing themselves and invoking the Virgin Mary, and we will get a better empirical understanding of which is more effective.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jonathan Mason


    When Wales come up against Italy, we can expect to see kneeling by the Welsh players counteracted by Italian players crossing themselves and invoking the Virgin Mary, and we will get a better empirical understanding of which is more effective.

     

    The Welsh can appeal not only to the Virgin (Llanfair), but to their own St Tysilio as well.


    https://johnrieber.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.jpg

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jonathan Mason


    When Wales come up against Italy...
     
    ...which side will Giorgio Chinaglia support?

    From his spotted cloud, of course. He passed away in Naples a few years ago. No, not that Naples.



    https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/07/0d/ba/6d/football-heaven-bar.jpg
  92. She looks like Michelle Malkin.

  93. The suffix -dottir is not woke; it is a thousand years old.

    Woke would be giving the children a matronym instead of a patronym.

  94. @Bruno
    The tallest people in the world are from Herzegovina nation. But they are split among with Serbs, Bosniac, Montenegrin etc

    The average of Dutch is 183cm (6 feet) and it’s 186cm for Herzegovnian men (6 feet 1)

    In the 1950, French male were 172cm (now its 178cm) and they measured the three ethnic groups in Rwanda :
    ‘Twas (pygmées) were 149cm, Hutus were exactly like French (172) and Tutsi were giants by the time (183cm). But now Hutus have lost 3 cm on average and Tutsi 6 cm and are at 177cm. At that time, Herzegovnia were already 183cm.
    So probably Tutsi, Dinka, Masai, Herzegovnian and an ethnic group in patagonia are the 5 potentially tallest nation.

    For women, it’s Baltic country in particular Estonian.


    Dutch are more of an enigma, maybe their recent stature is due to sexual selection of taller people making more babies in the last 50 years. It’s really something new for them to be that tall

    Replies: @Daniel H

    But they are split among with Serbs, Bosniac, Montenegrin etc

    Same people. They are all ethnically Serbs.

    • Replies: @Bruno
    @Daniel H

    In terms of height, Herzegovinians stand apart. In the region, everybody knows.

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Daniel H

    They are not the "same people", even at the genetic level (which has little to do with peoplehood).

    According to male line investigations, Croats from Herzegovina have the highest average I2a1, "Dinaric" metaphorically, haplotype (70%), Muslims less (50%), and Serbs even less (40%).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_populations_of_Europe

    Replies: @Commentator Mike

  95. @BB753
    For some reason, Europe's tallest, toughest and most athletic men come from the Balkans. The Dutch are just oversized soy-boys.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Daniel H, @dropkicktheroos, @Bla

    For some reason, Europe’s tallest, toughest and most athletic men come from the Balkans. The Dutch are just oversized soy-boys.

    The Balkans were a major recruiting ground of the Roman army.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Daniel H

    Balkan military hard men like Diocletian pretty much put the Roman Empire back together when it looked ruined after the 200s.

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson

  96. @mmack
    @ScarletNumber

    Western Union went from delivering telegrams to international money 💰 transfers. Very popular with the “without papers” crowd to send remittances back home south of the border.

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    For a long time, it was also the preferred way to send money to foreign sportsbooks.

  97. @sb
    Call me old fashioned but non inked non pierced white skin is an agreeable look

    Replies: @Supply and Demand, @Known Fact, @Russ, @James Forrestal

    Call me old fashioned but non inked non pierced white skin is an agreeable look

    Agreed, but moreso on women — especially the curvy ones. The unnatural skin discoloration isn’t around to distract from the natural beauty.

    If memory serves, the term progression for a certain race has been Negro –> colored –> black –> African-American –> Black. Perhaps ink of all hues under the rainbow will lead to the return of “colored” in that sequence.

    • Replies: @additionalMike
    @Russ

    You skipped a few steps: Colored, Negro, black, Afro-American, black, African-American, Black

  98. OT: A story getting a lot of attention in Italy today: Como, 90 year old kidnapped and raped at home, 26 year old Nigerian Salvini arrested: “We need expulsions”

    https://www.italy24news.com/News/83325.html (English)

    https://www.leggo.it/italia/cronache/anziana_90_anni_derubata_violentata_nigeriano-6019882.html (Italian)

  99. Not just minority, Dick!

    Maybe the DGAF Slavs and Latinos and what is Hanania, Lebanese? can lead us back home.

  100. @Mr. Peabody
    Love it.
    You didn't get much of this when the Irish, then the Italians, etc. were the big guys in the sports world. When they let blacks in the names got interesting, first from the southern culture end and now with the weirdo, fake-African names. But this cross-linguistic thing is great.
    The NBA just decided that their best player is a guy named Jock Itch.

    Replies: @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    Who was the EE guy who was a big star,even Jordan loved him,who was killed in a car crash?
    Died in his prime.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    Drazen Petrovic. Great shooter.

  101. @Anonymous
    Anyone notice Khazakstan has been rolling out some formidable lady tennis players?

    My favorite by a long shot is Yulia Putintseva. A Khazak upstart who enjoys creating drama on the court.

    Here she is hassling the umpire over her line calls, then demanding time to re-tie her tennis shoes, thus upsetting her opponent, and ultimately winning the match:

    https://youtu.be/hDH70bLU9d0

    Here’s a compilation of the wee girl with her bad, yet amusing temper, including scolding her coach during a match:

    https://youtu.be/U02afqeIi2c

    Replies: @Russ, @Frank McGar

    My favorite by a long shot is Yulia Putintseva. A Khazak upstart who enjoys creating drama on the court.

    Here she is hassling the umpire over her line calls, then demanding time to re-tie her tennis shoes, thus upsetting her opponent, and ultimately winning the match

    The value of sport in modern society is oft-debated. In this instance, however, tennis should be credited for saving some demure American young male from a certain Khazak mail-order bride. The ulcers would take root long before the non-English-speaking mother-in-law made the trek to these shores.

    Thanks for the highly entertaining videos. If the tennis thing falls flat for Miss Yulia, professional wrestling beckons.

  102. @Gaspar DeLaFunk
    @Steve Sailer

    You're expecting Yiddish?

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country

    That’s just for payroll.

  103. @Svevlad
    Nikola isn't so much of a good player due to athleticism, but because he plays very cunningly. In Serbia we say about him that he's the man who shown the world that basketball can be played with a brain.

    As for why Dinarids are so strong in some sports - not sure. Perhaps we have more fast-twitch muscle fibers. Or our meat and dairy-heavy diet helps. Or the very "hard" water we have due to being on what's basically a giant chunk of limestone

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @TorontoTraveller

    You didn’t watch the same highlights montage that I watched.

  104. @Morton's toes
    There is a 22 year old Greek guy (looks like a Greek god) who is up on Djokovic 2 sets - love in the French Open final at the moment. Djokovic is of course the greatest Serbian tennis player ever.

    Have there ever been tennis hooligans? Serbs versus Greeks sounds like it would be awesome.

    Replies: @Indigenous Greek, @Dave Pinsen, @Matra, @Agathoklis

    Stefanos Tsitsipas. Did well in the Australian Open earlier this year too. Looks a little like a young Bjorn Borg.

    • Replies: @Matra
    @Dave Pinsen

    Bjorn Borg's son, Leo, played in last week's French Open juniors championship. Last I heard he'd made it into the third round.

  105. Jokić had a triple double with 30 points, 20 rebounds, and 10 assists on Friday and Denver still lost. Would be interesting to see him and Luka on the same team. Luka has Porzingas, but Porzingas was kind of disappointing in their playoff run. Got stripped more times than a >7’ player should.

    Incidentally, Denver has a point guard who played in Europe too: 5’10” Facundo Campazzo, an Argentine Italian.

  106. @Redman
    @Anon

    Bill Wennington wasn’t a stiff athletically. He was trained as a gymnast in his youth in Canada. He actually ran the court pretty well for a 7-footer.

    The style of play was different back then though. Big white (and black) guys weren’t encouraged to play like guards like they are today.

    Guys like Luke Garza or Kofi Cockburn would easily have been top 5 NBA draft picks in 1987-88. Today they’ll get picked in the low second round.

    Replies: @Anon, @TorontoTraveller, @pepperinmono

    Bill Wennigton was the NBA guest at Olympia basketball camp in Ontario when I was 12 or 13. His response when asked “Who is your favourite player?” was: “Me. And you had better be your own favourite player too.” The counsellors all told stories of playing after-hours basketball games – while we were doing tie-dye or singing Kumbahyah around a fire – with Bill and said he was a wonderful guy.

  107. @slumber_j
    @Anon

    Above all I'd say that passing reveals tremendous imagination. Michael Jordan had that.

    Replies: @TorontoTraveller, @Gapeseed

    What’s the highest level of baketball you’ve ever played?

  108. @Anon
    One thing you notice with the tall Balkan players is that they're very athletic for their heights. Whereas white American basketball players in the 6'10" and up range tend to be big stiffs like Will Perdue, Bill Wennington, Shawn Bradley, etc.

    I wonder if this is due to higher average height in the Balkans resulting in tall guys who aren't total outliers athletically. While the big white American ballplayers in that upper height range are more outliers.

    Replies: @slumber_j, @Redman, @angmoh, @Element59

    Jokic is notably unathletic.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @angmoh

    Jocik doesn't dunk much for a 6-11 player.

  109. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why are the South Korean feminists all holding signs printed in English?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Skyler the Weird, @bomag, @Ron Mexico, @slumber_j, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Foreign expert, @Truth, @AnotherDad, @Andy, @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar, @bigdicknick

    not many jews are fluent in korean

  110. @TruthRevolution.net
    @isteve. Is it true that all great white basketball players come from Europe? The reason being that white children in the US would not risk their safety training in a black sport? So there is no white talent in the USA.

    There is no protest about whites winning awards in basketball? Award winners should look like the players, i.e. Black!

    Replies: @Truth, @Buffalo Joe

    TruthRev, actually there will be a recount and co-MVPs. One will be the valedictorian and the other the salutatorian. I just now watched a few minutes of the NBA. In 8 attempted shots by both teams, two baskets were made. Yawn.

  111. @Morton's toes
    There is a 22 year old Greek guy (looks like a Greek god) who is up on Djokovic 2 sets - love in the French Open final at the moment. Djokovic is of course the greatest Serbian tennis player ever.

    Have there ever been tennis hooligans? Serbs versus Greeks sounds like it would be awesome.

    Replies: @Indigenous Greek, @Dave Pinsen, @Matra, @Agathoklis

    Have there ever been tennis hooligans? Serbs versus Greeks sounds like it would be awesome.

    Sort of. After numerous match-disrupting incidents involving flag-waving Serb, Croat, & Greek tennis fans in Melbourne the Australian Open banned flags. This was maybe ten or so years ago and the violence was very minor compared to football hooliganism.

    The Serbian Djokovic ended up winning today’s Roland Garros final. He’ll likely beat out both Nadal & Federer for most major titles ever as he’s now only one behind them with 19 in total. Outside of Wimbledon the 40yr old Federer doesn’t really have much chance of adding to his tally and even there Djokovic will be favourite. Nadal could still win a couple more French & possibly US Opens but unless Djokovic gets injured he should overtake them within the next year, maybe even by the end of this year’s US Open.

    • Replies: @sb
    @Matra

    There have been several incidents of Balkan and neighbourhood hooliganism in Melbourne - apart from soccer of course . And the tennis as mentioned
    I also recall there being scenes at water polo world championships and junior world cup basketball . Can't quite recall the adversaries - Croatia -Serbia ? Greece -Turkey ?

    All part of multiculturalism's rich tapestry

    Replies: @Magyar

  112. @R.G. Camara
    @glib

    Olajuwon's story made me realize how little skill has to do with basketball and how much is merely size and athleticis. Hakeem didn't play basketball until he was 15-- he played soccer most of his life, like most kids in his area--- and three years later was only invited to play in college as a walk on.

    Yet by 21 he was an absolute star.

    Why? Because he was tall and athletic.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Frank McGar, @Steve Sailer

    I’ll be even more specific. Olajuwon is a HOFer because of his spin move. Was it a travel? Regardless, the move itself was like Ben Johnson coming out of the blocks a split second ahead of every other elite sprinter.

    • Replies: @Bostonvegas
    @Ron Mexico

    Great spin move but Olajawon could of got in for his defense as the induction of Ben Wallace shows.

  113. @Dave Pinsen
    @Morton's toes

    Stefanos Tsitsipas. Did well in the Australian Open earlier this year too. Looks a little like a young Bjorn Borg.

    Replies: @Matra

    Bjorn Borg’s son, Leo, played in last week’s French Open juniors championship. Last I heard he’d made it into the third round.

    • Thanks: Dave Pinsen
  114. I remember two hockey plaers whose names ended in ‘chuk’, Dave Andreychuk and Dale Hawerchuk, who both played for the Buffalo Sabres. I think there were a couple of more ‘chuks’ but I can’t remember their names.

    • Replies: @Russ
    @Buffalo Joe


    I remember two hockey plaers whose names ended in ‘chuk’, Dave Andreychuk and Dale Hawerchuk, who both played for the Buffalo Sabres. I think there were a couple of more ‘chuks’ but I can’t remember their names.
     
    There was an "almost" in Walt Tkaczuk, the German who played fourteen seasons exclusively with the New York Rangers. There then was an "exact" in Jet/Blue Keith Tkachuk, whose nickname was "Walt" (for said Tkaczuk) and whose sons Brady (in Ottawa) and Matthew (in Calgary) are current players.
    , @Faraday's Bobcat
    @Buffalo Joe


    I think there were a couple of more ‘chuks’ but I can’t remember their names.
     
    Terry Sawchuk maybe counts for two.
    , @Daniel H
    @Buffalo Joe


    I remember two hockey plaers whose names ended in ‘chuk’, Dave Andreychuk and Dale Hawerchuk, who both played for the Buffalo Sabres. I think there were a couple of more ‘chuks’ but I can’t remember their names.
     
    -chuk, -nko indicate Ukrainian origin.

    Replies: @Russ

  115. @glib
    I think the athleticism of Balkan players has more to do with the fact that soccer is nearly mandatory throughout Europe. They have much nimbler feet than americans, specially in small spaces. Olajuwon got himself a couple MVPs, also having exceptional feet (and being a former soccer player). No objection about passing, all the Balkans play that way. It is a cultural thing.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Thomasina, @Desiderius

    Jordan creating his own shot killed the art of passing stateside but soccer’s more or less all passing. It’s like the difference between pool and billiards.

    If only that clear out of Russell had been called. Probably too late by then. I blame Ehlo. And Fred Brown.

  116. @slumber_j
    @Anon

    Above all I'd say that passing reveals tremendous imagination. Michael Jordan had that.

    Replies: @TorontoTraveller, @Gapeseed

    Jordan’s passing was good but not super imaginative, as his assists were largely the result of panicked defenses leaving their assignments once Jordan blew past his man. For imagination, watch old clips of Jason Kidd. He wasn’t nearly the threat to score as Jordan or Magic Johnson (a great passer himself), so defenses could play off him. It didn’t matter, though – he read the near future like a basketball Nostradamus and piled up assist after amazing assist as a result.

    Jokic has a lot of Kidd in him.

  117. @Buffalo Joe
    I remember two hockey plaers whose names ended in 'chuk', Dave Andreychuk and Dale Hawerchuk, who both played for the Buffalo Sabres. I think there were a couple of more 'chuks' but I can't remember their names.

    Replies: @Russ, @Faraday's Bobcat, @Daniel H

    I remember two hockey plaers whose names ended in ‘chuk’, Dave Andreychuk and Dale Hawerchuk, who both played for the Buffalo Sabres. I think there were a couple of more ‘chuks’ but I can’t remember their names.

    There was an “almost” in Walt Tkaczuk, the German who played fourteen seasons exclusively with the New York Rangers. There then was an “exact” in Jet/Blue Keith Tkachuk, whose nickname was “Walt” (for said Tkaczuk) and whose sons Brady (in Ottawa) and Matthew (in Calgary) are current players.

    • Thanks: Buffalo Joe
  118. @Morton's toes
    There is a 22 year old Greek guy (looks like a Greek god) who is up on Djokovic 2 sets - love in the French Open final at the moment. Djokovic is of course the greatest Serbian tennis player ever.

    Have there ever been tennis hooligans? Serbs versus Greeks sounds like it would be awesome.

    Replies: @Indigenous Greek, @Dave Pinsen, @Matra, @Agathoklis

    Greek and Serbs fans cooperate. Some football fans will also do the business on opposing fans of Serbian or Greek clubs even if from the same country. For example, if Serbian Red Star is visiting Athens and they are playing Greek club, Panathinaikos, Greek Olympiakos fans will give Panathinaikos fans a hard time as Red Star and Olympiakos are brother clubs.

    Tsitsipas will be a grand slam winner shortly. Very talented.

  119. Anon[387] • Disclaimer says:

    American white high schoolers never even get a chance to stand out unless they are in rural all white areas. Blacks mature several years ahead of whites and are often older than their grade level peers.

    This puts whites who are still in puberty in direct competition with physically mature black men getting close to their their peak performance. When high school teams are being chosen, it’s a given who is going to be the star. And it’s not Jake Smith whose voice just stopped cracking over the summer.

    That black advantage carries on into college and beyond. At this point it has become such a cultural expectation of black superiority that many white American kids don’t even bother unless they are so freakishly tall that the coaches won’t take no for an answer.

    Europeans don’t get raised in that system so they get to grow up playing with their physical equals. They don’t spend their adolescence keeping a bench warm for black players. By the time they get to the US, they are hitting their physical peak and can compete with everyone else.

    • Replies: @Antiwar7
    @Anon

    Some whites develop quickly, too. Like Serbians.

  120. @Anonymous
    Anyone notice Khazakstan has been rolling out some formidable lady tennis players?

    My favorite by a long shot is Yulia Putintseva. A Khazak upstart who enjoys creating drama on the court.

    Here she is hassling the umpire over her line calls, then demanding time to re-tie her tennis shoes, thus upsetting her opponent, and ultimately winning the match:

    https://youtu.be/hDH70bLU9d0

    Here’s a compilation of the wee girl with her bad, yet amusing temper, including scolding her coach during a match:

    https://youtu.be/U02afqeIi2c

    Replies: @Russ, @Frank McGar

    I played competitive junior tennis for awhile. A lot of mental games played on the court. I was shocked at how much this kind of stuff took place. All’s fair I suppose, but I was annoyed when I knew the other player started acting put instead of just playing and seeing who’s better on that day. But that was the point of course. Eventually I learned to tune it out and recognized that when a player started playing these games, it often signified a crack in their confidence, as the head games and poor behavior usually started when they began to waiver or the match was getting close and they felt the need to try and get an edge. She’s entertaining for sure, but reminds me of the spoiled rich kids I played against who acted like petulant children when things started to get tense. And they were usually both bad winners and bad losers.

    She’s obviously a good player, but she doesn’t appear to have a lot of power or heavy weapons in her arsenal, and she’s pretty short for a pro, when many of the female players now are 6ft tall and can bomb it, so maybe part of her strategy is to try and get her opponents rattled.

  121. @Buffalo Joe
    I remember two hockey plaers whose names ended in 'chuk', Dave Andreychuk and Dale Hawerchuk, who both played for the Buffalo Sabres. I think there were a couple of more 'chuks' but I can't remember their names.

    Replies: @Russ, @Faraday's Bobcat, @Daniel H

    I think there were a couple of more ‘chuks’ but I can’t remember their names.

    Terry Sawchuk maybe counts for two.

    • Thanks: Buffalo Joe
  122. @R.G. Camara
    @glib

    Olajuwon's story made me realize how little skill has to do with basketball and how much is merely size and athleticis. Hakeem didn't play basketball until he was 15-- he played soccer most of his life, like most kids in his area--- and three years later was only invited to play in college as a walk on.

    Yet by 21 he was an absolute star.

    Why? Because he was tall and athletic.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Frank McGar, @Steve Sailer

    Tim Duncan too. Didn’t start playing until highschool. Smart + big and athletic, and pretty much dominated the league as far as power forwards go.

  123. @Buffalo Joe
    I remember two hockey plaers whose names ended in 'chuk', Dave Andreychuk and Dale Hawerchuk, who both played for the Buffalo Sabres. I think there were a couple of more 'chuks' but I can't remember their names.

    Replies: @Russ, @Faraday's Bobcat, @Daniel H

    I remember two hockey plaers whose names ended in ‘chuk’, Dave Andreychuk and Dale Hawerchuk, who both played for the Buffalo Sabres. I think there were a couple of more ‘chuks’ but I can’t remember their names.

    -chuk, -nko indicate Ukrainian origin.

    • Thanks: Buffalo Joe
    • Replies: @Russ
    @Daniel H


    -chuk, -nko indicate Ukrainian origin
     
    The -nko whom I best recall was Dave Semenko, wing and on-ice bodyguard for Wayne Gretzky on the 1980s Edmonton Oilers dynasty. Passed away from pancreatic cancer in his late 50s a few years ago, sadly. Goodly number of Ukrainians in the western Canadian provinces (from which Semenko hailed, I believe).
  124. @angmoh
    @Anon

    Jokic is notably unathletic.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Jocik doesn’t dunk much for a 6-11 player.

  125. @R.G. Camara
    @glib

    Olajuwon's story made me realize how little skill has to do with basketball and how much is merely size and athleticis. Hakeem didn't play basketball until he was 15-- he played soccer most of his life, like most kids in his area--- and three years later was only invited to play in college as a walk on.

    Yet by 21 he was an absolute star.

    Why? Because he was tall and athletic.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Frank McGar, @Steve Sailer

    Olajuwon had a big break when he arrived at the U. of Houston as a very raw prospect. Houston Rockets Hall of Famer Moses Malone wanted somebody big and athletic to practice against over summer, so he had Olajuwon play him many hours per week.

    But Olajuwon kept getting better into his early 30s, winning MVP in 1994

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Steve Sailer

    Smart cookie

  126. @Daniel H
    @BB753


    For some reason, Europe’s tallest, toughest and most athletic men come from the Balkans. The Dutch are just oversized soy-boys.
     
    The Balkans were a major recruiting ground of the Roman army.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Balkan military hard men like Diocletian pretty much put the Roman Empire back together when it looked ruined after the 200s.

    • Replies: @Rockford Tyson
    @Steve Sailer

    The most memorable part of the 2016 remake of "Ben Hur" was the scene of the Roman Legion marching into Jerusalem. The songs that the legionnaires sang as they marched are historically accurate. Roman martial songs used to be legendary. As they marched, they sang praises to Mars, the god of virility, destruction and bloodlust. What happened to those songs? As recently as the 1940's, both the Marine Corps and Army infantry battallions would sing Angliphied versions of exactly the same songs. They even kept the praises to pagan gods, something that upset priests and ministers in the very religious and Christian America of that time. This scene is epic: https://youtu.be/WvS8cvapdMk

  127. @Indigenous Greek
    @Morton's toes

    That Greek guy is half Russian. His mother, a pro tennis player herself, is the daughter of Soviet professional footballer Sergei Salnikov (having good genes sure helps!). He has the potential to have a career as good as Andy Murray's, if he doesn't succumb to the laziness that plagues modern Greeks.

    However, there won't be any Serb-Greek hooligan clash. There's brotherly love between them and they routinely band together against Croats and Albanians instead. Religion trumps blood in this case.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I saw the Greek-Bulgarian World Cup soccer game in 1994 in Chicago. The Bulgarians won 4-0 on their way to the semifinals. The Greek fans told me they liked the Bulgarians and wished them well.

  128. @Russ
    @sb


    Call me old fashioned but non inked non pierced white skin is an agreeable look
     
    Agreed, but moreso on women -- especially the curvy ones. The unnatural skin discoloration isn't around to distract from the natural beauty.

    If memory serves, the term progression for a certain race has been Negro --> colored --> black --> African-American --> Black. Perhaps ink of all hues under the rainbow will lead to the return of "colored" in that sequence.

    Replies: @additionalMike

    You skipped a few steps: Colored, Negro, black, Afro-American, black, African-American, Black

  129. @Gaspar DeLaFunk
    @Mr. Peabody

    Who was the EE guy who was a big star,even Jordan loved him,who was killed in a car crash?
    Died in his prime.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Drazen Petrovic. Great shooter.

    • Agree: Gapeseed
  130. HA says:
    @RichardTaylor
    Did anyone know someone who died of Covid in their actual life? I mean one? I don't.

    But there were a lot who died as a result of being intubated early, catching subsequent infections, etc. And of course, all the delayed surgeries and doctor visits.

    And the misery of families not being able to hold the hand of someone dying for other reasons, not being able to see grandmothers in their last year of life.

    Oh, and the mainstreaming of fascist tactics on the population.

    This blog and all the other HBD head cases were irresponsibly pushing predictions of 5 million dead Americans. They demanded action. But notice, the genocidal policies against their people really don't interest them. That's just an interesting fact pattern. After all, they kinda like it when the White proles get taught a lesson.

    Replies: @HA, @keypusher, @CSFurious

    “This blog and all the other HBD head cases were irresponsibly pushing predictions of 5 million dead Americans.”

    When did this blog push 5 million? You yourself admitted that the 5 million was the absolute worst case scenario with no intervention, and that was actually in some other blog (namely, ArguablyWrong). Whereas the lower limit of those forecasts was 5K. In other words, the actual forecast you’re still so upset about is “between 5K and 5 million”. And what’s more, you thought even that 5K figure was ridiculously high.

    And yet, here you are still griping — however inaccurately — at other people for getting the COVID forecasts wrong?

    Again, if anyone wants to understand why the COVID truthers weren’t given more credence, it’s because there were way too many self-appointed spokesmen like you making them look like loons.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @HA

    My "forecast" was off? Do we even have accurate estimates? But gee, I guess that's why I don't ask for donations.

    I hope Steve, Greg Cochran and all the others who fell for this are noticing the people who remain committed to the idea we needed to shut everything down for a year are a bunch of touchy head-cases, narcissistic obsessives who can't stand pushback.

    Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go shovel dead Covid people out of my driveway.

  131. @Anon
    American white high schoolers never even get a chance to stand out unless they are in rural all white areas. Blacks mature several years ahead of whites and are often older than their grade level peers.

    This puts whites who are still in puberty in direct competition with physically mature black men getting close to their their peak performance. When high school teams are being chosen, it's a given who is going to be the star. And it's not Jake Smith whose voice just stopped cracking over the summer.

    That black advantage carries on into college and beyond. At this point it has become such a cultural expectation of black superiority that many white American kids don't even bother unless they are so freakishly tall that the coaches won't take no for an answer.

    Europeans don't get raised in that system so they get to grow up playing with their physical equals. They don't spend their adolescence keeping a bench warm for black players. By the time they get to the US, they are hitting their physical peak and can compete with everyone else.

    Replies: @Antiwar7

    Some whites develop quickly, too. Like Serbians.

  132. @Steve Sailer
    @Daniel H

    Balkan military hard men like Diocletian pretty much put the Roman Empire back together when it looked ruined after the 200s.

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson

    The most memorable part of the 2016 remake of “Ben Hur” was the scene of the Roman Legion marching into Jerusalem. The songs that the legionnaires sang as they marched are historically accurate. Roman martial songs used to be legendary. As they marched, they sang praises to Mars, the god of virility, destruction and bloodlust. What happened to those songs? As recently as the 1940’s, both the Marine Corps and Army infantry battallions would sing Angliphied versions of exactly the same songs. They even kept the praises to pagan gods, something that upset priests and ministers in the very religious and Christian America of that time. This scene is epic:

  133. Re: French Open (tennis)

    Women’s Singles at the French Open has been taken over by the Western
    Slavs. Western Slavs are tall (though not as tall as Southern Slavs), strong,
    fast, and smart. Last fall’s (delayed) French Open was won by the Polish
    sensation, a teenager named Iga Światek. This year’s French Open was
    won by a Czech veteran named Barbora Krejčiková who defeated
    a Russian player. In the last several months Poland’s Iga Światek has
    generally done so well she’s been described as running a bakery that
    sells bagels (she often defeats opponents 6:0) and breadsticks (6:1). By the way,
    the winner of the French Open in Men’s Singles this year was Djokovic,
    another Slav who earlier humiliated Nadal who was supposed to be
    the King of Clay.

    Tennis has basically been Czechia’s national sport (remember Navratilova
    and Lendl?). They train at Prostejov, which is only a couple of hours drive
    from Poland. Increasingly, Polish tennis players like Światek train there as well
    since they can easily find sparring partners at the highest levels of
    the game,

    P.S. Poland’s average male height is now 5’10 1/2”; Germany’s – 5’9”; U.K.’s –
    5’9”; U.S.’s – 5’9”. Astonishing how the Americans have shrunk (due to mass
    immigration from Third World countries?). Back in the late 1940s when
    Jack Kerouac, accompanied by Neal Cassady, finally embarked on his travels
    around the country, which he wrote about in On the Road (1957), he couldn’t
    get over how tall and rangy men in the American West were. Broad-shouldered
    and narrow-hipped, to him they all looked like Gary Cooper. I still recall seeing
    many rangy men in the West in the 1980s, but very few of late. The 1980s was
    the last decade when the U.S. looked American. Then in 1991 they doubled
    legal immigration to over one million, and the American look is now gone forever.

    • Replies: @Anon 2
    @Anon 2

    Steve, you’re being very imprecise in using the term ‘Balkan.’
    The Balkan Peninsula includes Greece, Albania, and even
    a bit of Turkey. The name is of Southern Slavonic (i.e., formerly
    Yugoslav) origin, not Greek or Albanian. After all, Yugoslavia literally
    meant the Land of the Southern Slavs. ‘Yugo’ is ‘South’ in many Slavonic
    languages.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Matra
    @Anon 2


    In the last several months Poland’s Iga Światek has
    generally done so well she’s been described as running a bakery that
    sells bagels (she often defeats opponents 6:0) and breadsticks (6:1)
     
    That doesn't mean much given the very shallow talent pool in women's tennis. Barbora Krejčiková is the sixth different winner in as many years. Unseeded players can't even come close to winning in men's tennis but anything can happen in the low quality women's game.

    BTW Poland just lost 2-1 to tiny Slovakia at Euro 2020. Not good coming off their humiliation at the last World Cup. Wonder why a country as large as Poland (or Russia) constantly fails at football?

    Replies: @Anon 2, @Anon 2

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon 2


    Tennis has basically been Czechia’s national sport...
     
    Česko. Or Česká republika.

    "Czechia" is so bad, they refuse to use it themselves.

    , @Anon
    @Anon 2

    I'm glad that unambiguous women are winning women's tournaments again, now that S Williams is fading out. I hope they can exclude the transies.

  134. Steve – did you review Falling Down with Michael Douglas?

  135. @Anon 2
    Re: French Open (tennis)

    Women’s Singles at the French Open has been taken over by the Western
    Slavs. Western Slavs are tall (though not as tall as Southern Slavs), strong,
    fast, and smart. Last fall’s (delayed) French Open was won by the Polish
    sensation, a teenager named Iga Światek. This year’s French Open was
    won by a Czech veteran named Barbora Krejčiková who defeated
    a Russian player. In the last several months Poland’s Iga Światek has
    generally done so well she’s been described as running a bakery that
    sells bagels (she often defeats opponents 6:0) and breadsticks (6:1). By the way,
    the winner of the French Open in Men’s Singles this year was Djokovic,
    another Slav who earlier humiliated Nadal who was supposed to be
    the King of Clay.

    Tennis has basically been Czechia’s national sport (remember Navratilova
    and Lendl?). They train at Prostejov, which is only a couple of hours drive
    from Poland. Increasingly, Polish tennis players like Światek train there as well
    since they can easily find sparring partners at the highest levels of
    the game,

    P.S. Poland’s average male height is now 5’10 1/2”; Germany’s - 5’9”; U.K.’s -
    5’9”; U.S.’s - 5’9”. Astonishing how the Americans have shrunk (due to mass
    immigration from Third World countries?). Back in the late 1940s when
    Jack Kerouac, accompanied by Neal Cassady, finally embarked on his travels
    around the country, which he wrote about in On the Road (1957), he couldn’t
    get over how tall and rangy men in the American West were. Broad-shouldered
    and narrow-hipped, to him they all looked like Gary Cooper. I still recall seeing
    many rangy men in the West in the 1980s, but very few of late. The 1980s was
    the last decade when the U.S. looked American. Then in 1991 they doubled
    legal immigration to over one million, and the American look is now gone forever.

    Replies: @Anon 2, @Matra, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    Steve, you’re being very imprecise in using the term ‘Balkan.’
    The Balkan Peninsula includes Greece, Albania, and even
    a bit of Turkey. The name is of Southern Slavonic (i.e., formerly
    Yugoslav) origin, not Greek or Albanian. After all, Yugoslavia literally
    meant the Land of the Southern Slavs. ‘Yugo’ is ‘South’ in many Slavonic
    languages.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon 2

    Is there an agreed upon name for the tall, robust mountain folks of ex-Yugoslavia and Albania?

    Replies: @Kinez, @Anon 2

  136. @Anon 2
    @Anon 2

    Steve, you’re being very imprecise in using the term ‘Balkan.’
    The Balkan Peninsula includes Greece, Albania, and even
    a bit of Turkey. The name is of Southern Slavonic (i.e., formerly
    Yugoslav) origin, not Greek or Albanian. After all, Yugoslavia literally
    meant the Land of the Southern Slavs. ‘Yugo’ is ‘South’ in many Slavonic
    languages.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Is there an agreed upon name for the tall, robust mountain folks of ex-Yugoslavia and Albania?

    • Replies: @Kinez
    @Steve Sailer

    The Dinaric race

    , @Anon 2
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve, Albanians are not Slavs, and they are rather short. John Belushi
    wasn’t tall.

    In the research literature focusing on the exceptional tallness
    of people from the Dinaric Alps, they seem to focus on Herzegovina,
    so they use phrases like “Tallness in Herzegovinian men linked
    to a gene passed down from ancient big game (e.g., mammoth)
    hunters.” Since their diet is still suboptimal, the Herzegovinians
    may have an amazing genetic potential to achieve even greater
    levels of tallness. The question is do we want women to be that
    tall? E.g., immigrants refer to the Dutch women as “giraffes.
    Very tall women are not everyone’s cup of tea

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Steve Sailer, @anonymous

  137. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon 2

    Is there an agreed upon name for the tall, robust mountain folks of ex-Yugoslavia and Albania?

    Replies: @Kinez, @Anon 2

    The Dinaric race

  138. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon 2

    Is there an agreed upon name for the tall, robust mountain folks of ex-Yugoslavia and Albania?

    Replies: @Kinez, @Anon 2

    Steve, Albanians are not Slavs, and they are rather short. John Belushi
    wasn’t tall.

    In the research literature focusing on the exceptional tallness
    of people from the Dinaric Alps, they seem to focus on Herzegovina,
    so they use phrases like “Tallness in Herzegovinian men linked
    to a gene passed down from ancient big game (e.g., mammoth)
    hunters.” Since their diet is still suboptimal, the Herzegovinians
    may have an amazing genetic potential to achieve even greater
    levels of tallness. The question is do we want women to be that
    tall? E.g., immigrants refer to the Dutch women as “giraffes.
    Very tall women are not everyone’s cup of tea

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon 2

    Carleton Coon wrote a book about one particular set of Albanians, the Ghegs. The title of his book was "Mountains of Giants:"

    https://www.amazon.com/Mountains-Giants-Cultural-Albanian-Mountain/dp/0527012580

    Replies: @Anon 2

    , @Steve Sailer
    @Anon 2

    I'm guessing that all the warfare in the Balkans in 1991-1999 may have held boys back, so the future of South Slav athletes from the Balkan mountains will be even brighter, so by around 2033 everybody will be talking about all the 6'-9" NBA point guards from the Dinaric Alps.

    , @anonymous
    @Anon 2


    In the research literature focusing on the exceptional tallness
    of people from the Dinaric Alps, they seem to focus on Herzegovina,
     
    How does one go about finding and looking through the “research literature” on a given topic? For example, this one.

    Replies: @Anon 2, @Bla

  139. sb says:
    @Matra
    @Morton's toes

    Have there ever been tennis hooligans? Serbs versus Greeks sounds like it would be awesome.

    Sort of. After numerous match-disrupting incidents involving flag-waving Serb, Croat, & Greek tennis fans in Melbourne the Australian Open banned flags. This was maybe ten or so years ago and the violence was very minor compared to football hooliganism.

    The Serbian Djokovic ended up winning today's Roland Garros final. He'll likely beat out both Nadal & Federer for most major titles ever as he's now only one behind them with 19 in total. Outside of Wimbledon the 40yr old Federer doesn't really have much chance of adding to his tally and even there Djokovic will be favourite. Nadal could still win a couple more French & possibly US Opens but unless Djokovic gets injured he should overtake them within the next year, maybe even by the end of this year's US Open.

    Replies: @sb

    There have been several incidents of Balkan and neighbourhood hooliganism in Melbourne – apart from soccer of course . And the tennis as mentioned
    I also recall there being scenes at water polo world championships and junior world cup basketball . Can’t quite recall the adversaries – Croatia -Serbia ? Greece -Turkey ?

    All part of multiculturalism’s rich tapestry

    • Replies: @Magyar
    @sb

    The Croatia vs Serbia water polo games can get quite heated as they are replaying the Balkan Wars, in effect. Not to mention, the level of water polo is about as high as it gets.

    For some reason Croatia vs Montenegro doesn't get to quite achieve the same level of mutual animosity -- which is a bit odd since Montenegro is sort of a little Serbia. Every Serbian likes to brag about how his grandfather was a Montenegrin -- basically, if you have a Montenegrin in your family tree, you are a real-super-duper-Serbian.

    Very similar to how Hungarians brag about having Transylvanian Hungarian blood in their family tree -- it makes you an extra-awesome-real-deal-Hungarian.

    Transylvania and Montengreo are sort of a like a Jerusalem to Hungarians and Serbians, respectively.

    Anyone else see a trope-pattern like this in other nationalities? ie where a blood link to another geographical region serves to amplify the signal in the home region?

    Usually, the pattern is like in Bavaria -- you are only a real Bavarian if you you can trace your lineage back in Bavaria for 20 generations, anything less than that, you're basically an interloper or foreigner.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Bla

  140. @Anon 2
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve, Albanians are not Slavs, and they are rather short. John Belushi
    wasn’t tall.

    In the research literature focusing on the exceptional tallness
    of people from the Dinaric Alps, they seem to focus on Herzegovina,
    so they use phrases like “Tallness in Herzegovinian men linked
    to a gene passed down from ancient big game (e.g., mammoth)
    hunters.” Since their diet is still suboptimal, the Herzegovinians
    may have an amazing genetic potential to achieve even greater
    levels of tallness. The question is do we want women to be that
    tall? E.g., immigrants refer to the Dutch women as “giraffes.
    Very tall women are not everyone’s cup of tea

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Steve Sailer, @anonymous

    Carleton Coon wrote a book about one particular set of Albanians, the Ghegs. The title of his book was “Mountains of Giants:”

    • Replies: @Anon 2
    @Steve Sailer

    I wasn’t aware of that

  141. @Anon 2
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve, Albanians are not Slavs, and they are rather short. John Belushi
    wasn’t tall.

    In the research literature focusing on the exceptional tallness
    of people from the Dinaric Alps, they seem to focus on Herzegovina,
    so they use phrases like “Tallness in Herzegovinian men linked
    to a gene passed down from ancient big game (e.g., mammoth)
    hunters.” Since their diet is still suboptimal, the Herzegovinians
    may have an amazing genetic potential to achieve even greater
    levels of tallness. The question is do we want women to be that
    tall? E.g., immigrants refer to the Dutch women as “giraffes.
    Very tall women are not everyone’s cup of tea

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Steve Sailer, @anonymous

    I’m guessing that all the warfare in the Balkans in 1991-1999 may have held boys back, so the future of South Slav athletes from the Balkan mountains will be even brighter, so by around 2033 everybody will be talking about all the 6′-9″ NBA point guards from the Dinaric Alps.

  142. anonymous[925] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon 2
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve, Albanians are not Slavs, and they are rather short. John Belushi
    wasn’t tall.

    In the research literature focusing on the exceptional tallness
    of people from the Dinaric Alps, they seem to focus on Herzegovina,
    so they use phrases like “Tallness in Herzegovinian men linked
    to a gene passed down from ancient big game (e.g., mammoth)
    hunters.” Since their diet is still suboptimal, the Herzegovinians
    may have an amazing genetic potential to achieve even greater
    levels of tallness. The question is do we want women to be that
    tall? E.g., immigrants refer to the Dutch women as “giraffes.
    Very tall women are not everyone’s cup of tea

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Steve Sailer, @anonymous

    In the research literature focusing on the exceptional tallness
    of people from the Dinaric Alps, they seem to focus on Herzegovina,

    How does one go about finding and looking through the “research literature” on a given topic? For example, this one.

    • Replies: @Anon 2
    @anonymous

    I would start by simply Googling Tallness in Dinaric Alps. This brings in
    many interesting references.

    By the way, the average height of Albanian males is stated as 5’8 1/2. That’s taller
    than I thought but still not very impressive

    , @Bla
    @anonymous

    https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.161054

    However, the research is not focused solely or even mostly on Herzegovina, which indeed is in the tall zone.

    https://peerj.com/articles/6598/

  143. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    Maybe people like him will revitalize basketball which has become a ghetto of tatted-up idiot blacks. Audience has shrunk for negroball so some fresh, wholesome faces might bring back some paying customers. Sounds like a plan. It’s all just a business for the BLM worshipping crap owners.

  144. OT

    Minority Guardian sports writer reminds his readers that he hates English sport fans and, indeed, England:

    I support England. England is by many objective measures a terrible country ruled by terrible people with a terrible past and a terrifying future, and I support England. None of my forebears were born in England, and I support England. When I watch the news or follow England games abroad or read about politics I often feel utterly disconnected from this country, and I support England. It was an Englishman who snarled at me on the street last month while I was taking my daughter to nursery: “Fuck off Chinaman, and take your Covid patient with you.” Nevertheless, I support England.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2021/jun/12/euro-2020-gareth-southgate-england-brexit-racism

  145. @sb
    @Matra

    There have been several incidents of Balkan and neighbourhood hooliganism in Melbourne - apart from soccer of course . And the tennis as mentioned
    I also recall there being scenes at water polo world championships and junior world cup basketball . Can't quite recall the adversaries - Croatia -Serbia ? Greece -Turkey ?

    All part of multiculturalism's rich tapestry

    Replies: @Magyar

    The Croatia vs Serbia water polo games can get quite heated as they are replaying the Balkan Wars, in effect. Not to mention, the level of water polo is about as high as it gets.

    For some reason Croatia vs Montenegro doesn’t get to quite achieve the same level of mutual animosity — which is a bit odd since Montenegro is sort of a little Serbia. Every Serbian likes to brag about how his grandfather was a Montenegrin — basically, if you have a Montenegrin in your family tree, you are a real-super-duper-Serbian.

    Very similar to how Hungarians brag about having Transylvanian Hungarian blood in their family tree — it makes you an extra-awesome-real-deal-Hungarian.

    Transylvania and Montengreo are sort of a like a Jerusalem to Hungarians and Serbians, respectively.

    Anyone else see a trope-pattern like this in other nationalities? ie where a blood link to another geographical region serves to amplify the signal in the home region?

    Usually, the pattern is like in Bavaria — you are only a real Bavarian if you you can trace your lineage back in Bavaria for 20 generations, anything less than that, you’re basically an interloper or foreigner.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Magyar

    I remember watching some documentary about the Yugoslavia basketball team with Divac, Petrovic, Radja, Kukoc and how the wars turned them against each other.

    , @Bla
    @Magyar

    The Croatia vs Serbia water polo games are indeed heated, but mostly for a sporting rivalry reasons. If there is a team sport where 'war drums' have been mostly muted, it's water polo.

  146. @Danindc
    @Adam Grant

    You think he’s an impressive guy? Insightful? I don’t see it.
    I respect him though.

    Replies: @Adam Grant

    Cernovich is mentally tough and quick on his feet. Good chance he runs for president IMO. Impressive and insightful? Yes.

    90% of Trump’s appointments were really bad. Cernovich would do much better.

    Cernovich thinks immigrants coming to our country should have to pass an IQ test. Stefan Possony would have liked that, I believe.

    Hispanic males like a strong horse, so Cerno might get a good percentage of their vote.

    Robert Barnes said that the dumbest lawyer he ever faced in court (3X) was Kamala Harris. He’s also pointed out that she’s mean and corrupt. I’d enjoy watching Cerno eviscerate Kamala in presidential debates.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Adam Grant


    Cernovich thinks immigrants coming to our country should have to pass an IQ test. Stefan Possony would have liked that, I believe.
     
    So Cernovich wants to have a hostile, alien overclass replace native born Americans in the country’s best paying and most high leverage jobs?

    That is already happening at a massive scale, and it is an unfolding disaster for the natives.

    Replies: @Adam Grant

  147. @BB753
    For some reason, Europe's tallest, toughest and most athletic men come from the Balkans. The Dutch are just oversized soy-boys.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Daniel H, @dropkicktheroos, @Bla

    “The Dutch are just oversized soy-boys”. Screw you whites like eating cheese so transparent skin whites are cheesehead girlies and ricer cars blow away disposable german crap.

    • Troll: BB753
  148. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon 2

    Carleton Coon wrote a book about one particular set of Albanians, the Ghegs. The title of his book was "Mountains of Giants:"

    https://www.amazon.com/Mountains-Giants-Cultural-Albanian-Mountain/dp/0527012580

    Replies: @Anon 2

    I wasn’t aware of that

  149. People that run fast tend to have “high cut” calf muscles, i.e., the lower part of their calves are long and skinny. You can see that trait in many Balkan athletes. They might have a higher percentage of fast twitch muscle fibers on average (just a guess). People with high cut calves are not just faster, they’re quicker.

    Jack Nicklaus was a good offensive player in basketball and he was a fairly good sprinter (for a white guy), but he admitted he wasn’t quick enough to be a good defensive player. Jack has the opposite of “high cut calves.”

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Adam Grant


    Jack Nicklaus was a good offensive player in basketball
     
    Jack also went to college with Jerry Lucas, John Havlicek, and Bobby Knight, so it would have been tough for him to get any PT.
    , @Blapastlimit
    @Adam Grant

    Well, our sprinting speed is nothing to wax lyrically about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olVi6HaHEmI

    Replies: @Adam Grant

  150. @Redman
    @Anon

    Bill Wennington wasn’t a stiff athletically. He was trained as a gymnast in his youth in Canada. He actually ran the court pretty well for a 7-footer.

    The style of play was different back then though. Big white (and black) guys weren’t encouraged to play like guards like they are today.

    Guys like Luke Garza or Kofi Cockburn would easily have been top 5 NBA draft picks in 1987-88. Today they’ll get picked in the low second round.

    Replies: @Anon, @TorontoTraveller, @pepperinmono

    96-8 Bulls
    Wennington was pretty good shooter from 15 foot
    So was Luc Longley
    Latter was very good passer
    Neither could jump though
    Forgetting very versatile 6’11’’ Tony Kukoc from Croatia from same team
    Great passer, nicknamed ‘’ the Waiter’’
    From same team

  151. @anonymous
    @Anon 2


    In the research literature focusing on the exceptional tallness
    of people from the Dinaric Alps, they seem to focus on Herzegovina,
     
    How does one go about finding and looking through the “research literature” on a given topic? For example, this one.

    Replies: @Anon 2, @Bla

    I would start by simply Googling Tallness in Dinaric Alps. This brings in
    many interesting references.

    By the way, the average height of Albanian males is stated as 5’8 1/2. That’s taller
    than I thought but still not very impressive

  152. @RichardTaylor
    Did anyone know someone who died of Covid in their actual life? I mean one? I don't.

    But there were a lot who died as a result of being intubated early, catching subsequent infections, etc. And of course, all the delayed surgeries and doctor visits.

    And the misery of families not being able to hold the hand of someone dying for other reasons, not being able to see grandmothers in their last year of life.

    Oh, and the mainstreaming of fascist tactics on the population.

    This blog and all the other HBD head cases were irresponsibly pushing predictions of 5 million dead Americans. They demanded action. But notice, the genocidal policies against their people really don't interest them. That's just an interesting fact pattern. After all, they kinda like it when the White proles get taught a lesson.

    Replies: @HA, @keypusher, @CSFurious

    Let me guess. You don’t know anyone who died of AIDS either.

    Yeah, I know several people who died of covid, and double figures of people who got very sick from it. And intubation and infection-related deaths count too.

    You’d think covid denialists would have just given up at some point, but I suppose the shame would be too great for some of you.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Thanks: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @Dumbo
    @keypusher

    Why? Will the Covid hysteric-mongerers and obvious liars ever apologize for their lies and all the problems they caused?

    , @RichardTaylor
    @keypusher

    I'm not a "covid denialist". Viruses exist. The issue is that a ridiculous, injurious lockdown was pushed that was unnecessary and did real damage. It made no sense from the beginning but it appealed to a certain kind of neurotic.

    You'd think your crowd would give up from shame at some point, after all the misery you head-cases caused. But there's a weird kind of narcissism from your crowd.

  153. Anon[169] • Disclaimer says:
    @Adam Grant
    @Danindc

    Cernovich is mentally tough and quick on his feet. Good chance he runs for president IMO. Impressive and insightful? Yes.

    90% of Trump's appointments were really bad. Cernovich would do much better.

    Cernovich thinks immigrants coming to our country should have to pass an IQ test. Stefan Possony would have liked that, I believe.

    Hispanic males like a strong horse, so Cerno might get a good percentage of their vote.

    Robert Barnes said that the dumbest lawyer he ever faced in court (3X) was Kamala Harris. He's also pointed out that she's mean and corrupt. I'd enjoy watching Cerno eviscerate Kamala in presidential debates.

    Replies: @Anon

    Cernovich thinks immigrants coming to our country should have to pass an IQ test. Stefan Possony would have liked that, I believe.

    So Cernovich wants to have a hostile, alien overclass replace native born Americans in the country’s best paying and most high leverage jobs?

    That is already happening at a massive scale, and it is an unfolding disaster for the natives.

    • Replies: @Adam Grant
    @Anon

    I mostly agree with what you said. Diversity is weakness and we don't need to be significantly expanding the alien overclass. If Cernovich runs for president he should spell out exactly how much immigration he would allow and how he would expel the illegals that are already here. We don't need to expand our population.

    I think allowing a limited number of super brains into the country would be preferable to our present dysgenic immigration policy.
    Super brains would net create high paying jobs for the native population. Lee Kuan Yew favored this policy. Allowing U.S. average IQ to fall relative to countries like China would be a strategic mistake, IMO. Penalties for Asians (and others) who illegally send our technology to China and elsewhere should be very severe (financial + prison).

    I support giving citizenship to any white South Africans that want to come to America.

    In an ideal world, giving people who make our country weaker a financial incentive to leave permanently or not have children would be beneficial

  154. @Hannah Katz
    @ScarletNumber

    John Stockton?

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    Stockton never won. His best finish was 7th in 89 behind Magic, Jordan, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing, Hakeem, and Sir Charles.

  155. A very large percentage of CV-19 deaths could have been prevented with ivermectin and/or high doses of anti-inflammatory steroids. When anti-inflammatory steroids were given the doses were much to low and they should have been administered for much longer periods of time. NIH recommendations were way to low.

    Big government top-down medicine was a huge fail. Elite lung specialists tried to educate the public and hospital physicians but the information they were giving was suppressed by the MSM, Big Tech and to some degree, Big Pharma. Over a million people died needlessly, I suspect.

    Pharmacists in many hospitals were ordered not to dispense ivermectin, according to a pharmacist I know.

    • Thanks: J.Ross
    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Adam Grant

    Here in Ecuador you can buy a packet of ivermectin 6 mgs tablets over the counter for $4 at the shopping mall at a stall that sells vitamins.

    This actually strikes me as rather risky, since the drug is extremely dose sensitive, and exceeding the correct dose for your weight is considered to be dangerous as the drug level can accumulate in the blood.

    I don't know if it DOES help, but it COULD help. But nobody seems to know the optimum dose.

    The use of the cheap steroid dexamethasone in pneumonia and COPD is very well-known to all physicians and always has been. I don't see how it could be hidden.

    Replies: @Adam Grant

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Adam Grant

    I have Think Again out from the library. You're not that Adam Grant, are you?

    A big kudos with cheesesteak sauce if you are. What's it like to lean in to Sheryl Sandberg?

    Replies: @Adam Grant

  156. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:

    Don’t watch pro sports. Question why anyone ‘who looks like me’ does.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Anonymous


    Don’t watch pro sports. Question why anyone ‘who looks like me’ does.

     

    Well, we all have our deficiencies, but, I mean, let's focus on the positive side, Bro.

    You do have Cher as a mom, and she bought you a hooker for your birthday in High School...

    https://imgix.ranker.com/user_node_img/50037/1000739428/original/then-you-come-back-photo-u1?w=650&q=50&fm=pjpg&fit=crop&crop=faces
  157. @Steve Sailer
    @R.G. Camara

    Olajuwon had a big break when he arrived at the U. of Houston as a very raw prospect. Houston Rockets Hall of Famer Moses Malone wanted somebody big and athletic to practice against over summer, so he had Olajuwon play him many hours per week.

    But Olajuwon kept getting better into his early 30s, winning MVP in 1994

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Smart cookie

  158. Greeks had an NBA MVP. Twice.Giannis Antetokounmpo.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Commentator Mike

    While Giannis is of Greek nationality, that's like saying former Australian Open champion Caroline Wozniacki is Danish. They are technically factual while still being misleading. Wozniacki, as her name implies, is ethnically Polish, while Giannis, as his appearance implies, is ethnically Nigerian.

    Replies: @Commentator Mike, @Bardon Kaldian, @Truth

  159. @keypusher
    @RichardTaylor

    Let me guess. You don't know anyone who died of AIDS either.

    Yeah, I know several people who died of covid, and double figures of people who got very sick from it. And intubation and infection-related deaths count too.

    You'd think covid denialists would have just given up at some point, but I suppose the shame would be too great for some of you.

    Replies: @Dumbo, @RichardTaylor

    Why? Will the Covid hysteric-mongerers and obvious liars ever apologize for their lies and all the problems they caused?

    • Agree: RichardTaylor
    • Troll: ScarletNumber
  160. @Bragadocious
    @Dan Hayes

    Chauvin was convicted, BLM is in disarray and America has moved on--yet England forges on with its embarrassing self-righteous theatrics. They actually look ridiculous, like Lloyd Christmas saying "No way!" after seeing the moon landing headline.

    Anyway their kneeling isn't just about BLM, it's about shaming white America. Imagine the nerve of these monstrous hypocrites--same people who got millions killed in Biafra when they enforced a Nigerian food blockade. But that was so long ago and who remembers the 1960s anyway?

    Replies: @Matra

    yet England forges on with its embarrassing self-righteous theatrics

    Only England?

    Republic of Ireland players took the knee last week in Budapest, and were roundly booed for it by the Hungarian spectators.

  161. @Anon 2
    Re: French Open (tennis)

    Women’s Singles at the French Open has been taken over by the Western
    Slavs. Western Slavs are tall (though not as tall as Southern Slavs), strong,
    fast, and smart. Last fall’s (delayed) French Open was won by the Polish
    sensation, a teenager named Iga Światek. This year’s French Open was
    won by a Czech veteran named Barbora Krejčiková who defeated
    a Russian player. In the last several months Poland’s Iga Światek has
    generally done so well she’s been described as running a bakery that
    sells bagels (she often defeats opponents 6:0) and breadsticks (6:1). By the way,
    the winner of the French Open in Men’s Singles this year was Djokovic,
    another Slav who earlier humiliated Nadal who was supposed to be
    the King of Clay.

    Tennis has basically been Czechia’s national sport (remember Navratilova
    and Lendl?). They train at Prostejov, which is only a couple of hours drive
    from Poland. Increasingly, Polish tennis players like Światek train there as well
    since they can easily find sparring partners at the highest levels of
    the game,

    P.S. Poland’s average male height is now 5’10 1/2”; Germany’s - 5’9”; U.K.’s -
    5’9”; U.S.’s - 5’9”. Astonishing how the Americans have shrunk (due to mass
    immigration from Third World countries?). Back in the late 1940s when
    Jack Kerouac, accompanied by Neal Cassady, finally embarked on his travels
    around the country, which he wrote about in On the Road (1957), he couldn’t
    get over how tall and rangy men in the American West were. Broad-shouldered
    and narrow-hipped, to him they all looked like Gary Cooper. I still recall seeing
    many rangy men in the West in the 1980s, but very few of late. The 1980s was
    the last decade when the U.S. looked American. Then in 1991 they doubled
    legal immigration to over one million, and the American look is now gone forever.

    Replies: @Anon 2, @Matra, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    In the last several months Poland’s Iga Światek has
    generally done so well she’s been described as running a bakery that
    sells bagels (she often defeats opponents 6:0) and breadsticks (6:1)

    That doesn’t mean much given the very shallow talent pool in women’s tennis. Barbora Krejčiková is the sixth different winner in as many years. Unseeded players can’t even come close to winning in men’s tennis but anything can happen in the low quality women’s game.

    BTW Poland just lost 2-1 to tiny Slovakia at Euro 2020. Not good coming off their humiliation at the last World Cup. Wonder why a country as large as Poland (or Russia) constantly fails at football?

    • Replies: @Anon 2
    @Matra

    Who cares about Euro? Polish footballers like Lewandowski, and others
    have done very well financially in recent years. That’s the only thing
    that counts. Euro is just extra work. Who needs it? Polish people are
    not known for greed. Catholicism is based on moderation in all things

    Replies: @Anon 2, @Matra

    , @Anon 2
    @Matra

    Re: Shallow talent pool in women’s tennis

    If the talent pool is so shallow in women’s tennis, how come
    the U.S. currently does not even have one good American-born player,
    men or women. I define ‘good’ as someone who often reaches
    quarter finals and sometimes semifinals, but never wins.
    Using this definition, Serena can no longer be regarded
    as ‘good.’ We’re talking about the United States, the country
    that used to completely dominate tennis as recently as the 1990s.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Matra

  162. @Daniel H
    @Buffalo Joe


    I remember two hockey plaers whose names ended in ‘chuk’, Dave Andreychuk and Dale Hawerchuk, who both played for the Buffalo Sabres. I think there were a couple of more ‘chuks’ but I can’t remember their names.
     
    -chuk, -nko indicate Ukrainian origin.

    Replies: @Russ

    -chuk, -nko indicate Ukrainian origin

    The -nko whom I best recall was Dave Semenko, wing and on-ice bodyguard for Wayne Gretzky on the 1980s Edmonton Oilers dynasty. Passed away from pancreatic cancer in his late 50s a few years ago, sadly. Goodly number of Ukrainians in the western Canadian provinces (from which Semenko hailed, I believe).

  163. @Adam Grant
    I predict someone with a surnames ending with an “-ich” sound will run for president in the near future. First name Mike.

    Replies: @Danindc, @James Forrestal

    Ape Attitude and a lisp — an unbeatable combination.

  164. @Ron Mexico
    @R.G. Camara

    I'll be even more specific. Olajuwon is a HOFer because of his spin move. Was it a travel? Regardless, the move itself was like Ben Johnson coming out of the blocks a split second ahead of every other elite sprinter.

    Replies: @Bostonvegas

    Great spin move but Olajawon could of got in for his defense as the induction of Ben Wallace shows.

  165. @sb
    Call me old fashioned but non inked non pierced white skin is an agreeable look

    Replies: @Supply and Demand, @Known Fact, @Russ, @James Forrestal

    Let’s test that theory:

    Yeah not really looking like an improvement, to say the least.

  166. https://nba.nbcsports.com/2021/06/14/report-luka-doncic-dislikes-mavericks-de-facto-co-general-manager-haralabos-voulgaris/

    Speaking of Eastern European NBA stars, Luca Doncic is unhappy with Mark Cuban and the Mavericks front office. Something tells me Doncic is not enamored with the NBA in general and will probably end up back in Europe before his 30th birthday.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Barnard

    LOL, He's 22.

  167. @Anon
    One thing you notice with the tall Balkan players is that they're very athletic for their heights. Whereas white American basketball players in the 6'10" and up range tend to be big stiffs like Will Perdue, Bill Wennington, Shawn Bradley, etc.

    I wonder if this is due to higher average height in the Balkans resulting in tall guys who aren't total outliers athletically. While the big white American ballplayers in that upper height range are more outliers.

    Replies: @slumber_j, @Redman, @angmoh, @Element59

    Tom Chambers who played in the NBA from 1981-97 was probably the most athletic white player standing 6’10 or taller to ever play. There’s some terrific highlights of him on YouTube

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Element59

    The Mark Jackson dunk is great, but there are a few Chambers power dunks against the Celtics and Lakers that are more impressive.

  168. @keypusher
    @RichardTaylor

    Let me guess. You don't know anyone who died of AIDS either.

    Yeah, I know several people who died of covid, and double figures of people who got very sick from it. And intubation and infection-related deaths count too.

    You'd think covid denialists would have just given up at some point, but I suppose the shame would be too great for some of you.

    Replies: @Dumbo, @RichardTaylor

    I’m not a “covid denialist”. Viruses exist. The issue is that a ridiculous, injurious lockdown was pushed that was unnecessary and did real damage. It made no sense from the beginning but it appealed to a certain kind of neurotic.

    You’d think your crowd would give up from shame at some point, after all the misery you head-cases caused. But there’s a weird kind of narcissism from your crowd.

    • Troll: ScarletNumber
  169. @HA
    @RichardTaylor

    "This blog and all the other HBD head cases were irresponsibly pushing predictions of 5 million dead Americans."

    When did this blog push 5 million? You yourself admitted that the 5 million was the absolute worst case scenario with no intervention, and that was actually in some other blog (namely, ArguablyWrong). Whereas the lower limit of those forecasts was 5K. In other words, the actual forecast you're still so upset about is "between 5K and 5 million". And what's more, you thought even that 5K figure was ridiculously high.

    And yet, here you are still griping -- however inaccurately -- at other people for getting the COVID forecasts wrong?

    Again, if anyone wants to understand why the COVID truthers weren't given more credence, it's because there were way too many self-appointed spokesmen like you making them look like loons.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    My “forecast” was off? Do we even have accurate estimates? But gee, I guess that’s why I don’t ask for donations.

    I hope Steve, Greg Cochran and all the others who fell for this are noticing the people who remain committed to the idea we needed to shut everything down for a year are a bunch of touchy head-cases, narcissistic obsessives who can’t stand pushback.

    Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go shovel dead Covid people out of my driveway.

    • Troll: ScarletNumber
  170. @Magyar
    @sb

    The Croatia vs Serbia water polo games can get quite heated as they are replaying the Balkan Wars, in effect. Not to mention, the level of water polo is about as high as it gets.

    For some reason Croatia vs Montenegro doesn't get to quite achieve the same level of mutual animosity -- which is a bit odd since Montenegro is sort of a little Serbia. Every Serbian likes to brag about how his grandfather was a Montenegrin -- basically, if you have a Montenegrin in your family tree, you are a real-super-duper-Serbian.

    Very similar to how Hungarians brag about having Transylvanian Hungarian blood in their family tree -- it makes you an extra-awesome-real-deal-Hungarian.

    Transylvania and Montengreo are sort of a like a Jerusalem to Hungarians and Serbians, respectively.

    Anyone else see a trope-pattern like this in other nationalities? ie where a blood link to another geographical region serves to amplify the signal in the home region?

    Usually, the pattern is like in Bavaria -- you are only a real Bavarian if you you can trace your lineage back in Bavaria for 20 generations, anything less than that, you're basically an interloper or foreigner.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Bla

    I remember watching some documentary about the Yugoslavia basketball team with Divac, Petrovic, Radja, Kukoc and how the wars turned them against each other.

  171. @Element59
    @Anon

    Tom Chambers who played in the NBA from 1981-97 was probably the most athletic white player standing 6'10 or taller to ever play. There's some terrific highlights of him on YouTube

    https://youtu.be/7QA5bP1uUXY

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

    The Mark Jackson dunk is great, but there are a few Chambers power dunks against the Celtics and Lakers that are more impressive.

  172. @Adam Grant
    People that run fast tend to have "high cut" calf muscles, i.e., the lower part of their calves are long and skinny. You can see that trait in many Balkan athletes. They might have a higher percentage of fast twitch muscle fibers on average (just a guess). People with high cut calves are not just faster, they're quicker.

    Jack Nicklaus was a good offensive player in basketball and he was a fairly good sprinter (for a white guy), but he admitted he wasn't quick enough to be a good defensive player. Jack has the opposite of "high cut calves."

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Blapastlimit

    Jack Nicklaus was a good offensive player in basketball

    Jack also went to college with Jerry Lucas, John Havlicek, and Bobby Knight, so it would have been tough for him to get any PT.

  173. @Anon
    @Adam Grant


    Cernovich thinks immigrants coming to our country should have to pass an IQ test. Stefan Possony would have liked that, I believe.
     
    So Cernovich wants to have a hostile, alien overclass replace native born Americans in the country’s best paying and most high leverage jobs?

    That is already happening at a massive scale, and it is an unfolding disaster for the natives.

    Replies: @Adam Grant

    I mostly agree with what you said. Diversity is weakness and we don’t need to be significantly expanding the alien overclass. If Cernovich runs for president he should spell out exactly how much immigration he would allow and how he would expel the illegals that are already here. We don’t need to expand our population.

    I think allowing a limited number of super brains into the country would be preferable to our present dysgenic immigration policy.
    Super brains would net create high paying jobs for the native population. Lee Kuan Yew favored this policy. Allowing U.S. average IQ to fall relative to countries like China would be a strategic mistake, IMO. Penalties for Asians (and others) who illegally send our technology to China and elsewhere should be very severe (financial + prison).

    I support giving citizenship to any white South Africans that want to come to America.

    In an ideal world, giving people who make our country weaker a financial incentive to leave permanently or not have children would be beneficial

  174. @Commentator Mike
    Greeks had an NBA MVP. Twice.Giannis Antetokounmpo.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Giannis_Antetokounmpo_%2824845003687%29_%28cropped%29_%28cropped%29.jpg/220px-Giannis_Antetokounmpo_%2824845003687%29_%28cropped%29_%28cropped%29.jpg

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    While Giannis is of Greek nationality, that’s like saying former Australian Open champion Caroline Wozniacki is Danish. They are technically factual while still being misleading. Wozniacki, as her name implies, is ethnically Polish, while Giannis, as his appearance implies, is ethnically Nigerian.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    @ScarletNumber

    Yeah I know, but if he thinks he's Greek and the Greeks accept him as one of their own who am I to argue about it?

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @ScarletNumber

    Sure, but you can visually-mentally switch a Pole for a Dane.

    You cannot switch a Nigerian for a Greek.

    , @Truth
    @ScarletNumber

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sarcasm

  175. @ScarletNumber
    @Commentator Mike

    While Giannis is of Greek nationality, that's like saying former Australian Open champion Caroline Wozniacki is Danish. They are technically factual while still being misleading. Wozniacki, as her name implies, is ethnically Polish, while Giannis, as his appearance implies, is ethnically Nigerian.

    Replies: @Commentator Mike, @Bardon Kaldian, @Truth

    Yeah I know, but if he thinks he’s Greek and the Greeks accept him as one of their own who am I to argue about it?

    • Agree: ScarletNumber
  176. @Jonathan Mason
    @Dan Hayes

    If a pregame kneel is a winning strategy, then I am all for it.

    People have often prayed for victory before sports events, but maybe it is the kneeling does the trick, not the praying.

    More credit should be given to Tim Tebow for starting the kneeling meme, which now seems to have taken on a life of its own and ditched the silly idea that there is a God who acts as a sports referee and awards touchdowns and goals to whichever team offers the greatest obeisance.

    Kneeling, on the other hand, has the psychological effect of putting the opposition team off their game and influencing the referee. Since the England team is mostly black or mixed race players, the referee cannot afford to appear to be Chauvinistic so he will give favorable rulings.

    Kneel on, lads!

    When Wales come up against Italy, we can expect to see kneeling by the Welsh players counteracted by Italian players crossing themselves and invoking the Virgin Mary, and we will get a better empirical understanding of which is more effective.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

    When Wales come up against Italy, we can expect to see kneeling by the Welsh players counteracted by Italian players crossing themselves and invoking the Virgin Mary, and we will get a better empirical understanding of which is more effective.

    The Welsh can appeal not only to the Virgin (Llanfair), but to their own St Tysilio as well.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Reg Cæsar

    Llanfair means "Church of St.Mary", not Virgin.

    Many Welsh place names begin with Llan, whick means Church.

    I guess when place naming and map drawing began, the church was usually the largest identifiable building in a hamlet or town.

    Towns named today would probably all start with the prefix Hospital- or Supermarket-.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  177. @ScarletNumber
    @Commentator Mike

    While Giannis is of Greek nationality, that's like saying former Australian Open champion Caroline Wozniacki is Danish. They are technically factual while still being misleading. Wozniacki, as her name implies, is ethnically Polish, while Giannis, as his appearance implies, is ethnically Nigerian.

    Replies: @Commentator Mike, @Bardon Kaldian, @Truth

    Sure, but you can visually-mentally switch a Pole for a Dane.

    You cannot switch a Nigerian for a Greek.

  178. @Anon 2
    Re: French Open (tennis)

    Women’s Singles at the French Open has been taken over by the Western
    Slavs. Western Slavs are tall (though not as tall as Southern Slavs), strong,
    fast, and smart. Last fall’s (delayed) French Open was won by the Polish
    sensation, a teenager named Iga Światek. This year’s French Open was
    won by a Czech veteran named Barbora Krejčiková who defeated
    a Russian player. In the last several months Poland’s Iga Światek has
    generally done so well she’s been described as running a bakery that
    sells bagels (she often defeats opponents 6:0) and breadsticks (6:1). By the way,
    the winner of the French Open in Men’s Singles this year was Djokovic,
    another Slav who earlier humiliated Nadal who was supposed to be
    the King of Clay.

    Tennis has basically been Czechia’s national sport (remember Navratilova
    and Lendl?). They train at Prostejov, which is only a couple of hours drive
    from Poland. Increasingly, Polish tennis players like Światek train there as well
    since they can easily find sparring partners at the highest levels of
    the game,

    P.S. Poland’s average male height is now 5’10 1/2”; Germany’s - 5’9”; U.K.’s -
    5’9”; U.S.’s - 5’9”. Astonishing how the Americans have shrunk (due to mass
    immigration from Third World countries?). Back in the late 1940s when
    Jack Kerouac, accompanied by Neal Cassady, finally embarked on his travels
    around the country, which he wrote about in On the Road (1957), he couldn’t
    get over how tall and rangy men in the American West were. Broad-shouldered
    and narrow-hipped, to him they all looked like Gary Cooper. I still recall seeing
    many rangy men in the West in the 1980s, but very few of late. The 1980s was
    the last decade when the U.S. looked American. Then in 1991 they doubled
    legal immigration to over one million, and the American look is now gone forever.

    Replies: @Anon 2, @Matra, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    Tennis has basically been Czechia’s national sport…

    Česko. Or Česká republika.

    “Czechia” is so bad, they refuse to use it themselves.

  179. @Jonathan Mason
    @Dan Hayes

    If a pregame kneel is a winning strategy, then I am all for it.

    People have often prayed for victory before sports events, but maybe it is the kneeling does the trick, not the praying.

    More credit should be given to Tim Tebow for starting the kneeling meme, which now seems to have taken on a life of its own and ditched the silly idea that there is a God who acts as a sports referee and awards touchdowns and goals to whichever team offers the greatest obeisance.

    Kneeling, on the other hand, has the psychological effect of putting the opposition team off their game and influencing the referee. Since the England team is mostly black or mixed race players, the referee cannot afford to appear to be Chauvinistic so he will give favorable rulings.

    Kneel on, lads!

    When Wales come up against Italy, we can expect to see kneeling by the Welsh players counteracted by Italian players crossing themselves and invoking the Virgin Mary, and we will get a better empirical understanding of which is more effective.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

    When Wales come up against Italy…

    …which side will Giorgio Chinaglia support?

    From his spotted cloud, of course. He passed away in Naples a few years ago. No, not that Naples.

  180. @Deadite
    Steve -
    My wife can identify nationality by the name ( and usually religion) for all the -ic an -ich types.

    Apparently it’s a lot like Mc being Irish and mac being Scottish.

    Not that I get it…🧐

    Replies: @Ian M.

    Apparently it’s a lot like Mc being Irish and mac being Scottish.

    That’s not really true. Mac is always Scottish, or nearly always, but Mc can be Irish or Scottish.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  181. Anonymous[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @Niccolo Soldo
    @sb

    I played soccer with Steve Nash a few times years ago. He could have easily become a soccer star if he didn't choose basketball. His brother Martin played for the Canadian National Soccer Team and earned 38 caps.

    Martin is only 5'11" though.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I played soccer with Steve Nash a few times years ago. He could have easily become a soccer star if he didn’t choose basketball. His brother Martin played for the Canadian National Soccer Team and earned 38 caps.

    Martin is only 5’11” though.

    Steve Nash is 6’3″, which would make him the tallest or among the tallest guys in any typical social setting.

    But on TV running the point in the NBA, he looked like a midget.

  182. @Daniel H
    @Bruno


    But they are split among with Serbs, Bosniac, Montenegrin etc
     
    Same people. They are all ethnically Serbs.

    Replies: @Bruno, @Bardon Kaldian

    In terms of height, Herzegovinians stand apart. In the region, everybody knows.

  183. white boy summer going swimmingly

  184. @Anon 2
    Re: French Open (tennis)

    Women’s Singles at the French Open has been taken over by the Western
    Slavs. Western Slavs are tall (though not as tall as Southern Slavs), strong,
    fast, and smart. Last fall’s (delayed) French Open was won by the Polish
    sensation, a teenager named Iga Światek. This year’s French Open was
    won by a Czech veteran named Barbora Krejčiková who defeated
    a Russian player. In the last several months Poland’s Iga Światek has
    generally done so well she’s been described as running a bakery that
    sells bagels (she often defeats opponents 6:0) and breadsticks (6:1). By the way,
    the winner of the French Open in Men’s Singles this year was Djokovic,
    another Slav who earlier humiliated Nadal who was supposed to be
    the King of Clay.

    Tennis has basically been Czechia’s national sport (remember Navratilova
    and Lendl?). They train at Prostejov, which is only a couple of hours drive
    from Poland. Increasingly, Polish tennis players like Światek train there as well
    since they can easily find sparring partners at the highest levels of
    the game,

    P.S. Poland’s average male height is now 5’10 1/2”; Germany’s - 5’9”; U.K.’s -
    5’9”; U.S.’s - 5’9”. Astonishing how the Americans have shrunk (due to mass
    immigration from Third World countries?). Back in the late 1940s when
    Jack Kerouac, accompanied by Neal Cassady, finally embarked on his travels
    around the country, which he wrote about in On the Road (1957), he couldn’t
    get over how tall and rangy men in the American West were. Broad-shouldered
    and narrow-hipped, to him they all looked like Gary Cooper. I still recall seeing
    many rangy men in the West in the 1980s, but very few of late. The 1980s was
    the last decade when the U.S. looked American. Then in 1991 they doubled
    legal immigration to over one million, and the American look is now gone forever.

    Replies: @Anon 2, @Matra, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    I’m glad that unambiguous women are winning women’s tournaments again, now that S Williams is fading out. I hope they can exclude the transies.

  185. @Daniel H
    @Bruno


    But they are split among with Serbs, Bosniac, Montenegrin etc
     
    Same people. They are all ethnically Serbs.

    Replies: @Bruno, @Bardon Kaldian

    They are not the “same people”, even at the genetic level (which has little to do with peoplehood).

    According to male line investigations, Croats from Herzegovina have the highest average I2a1, “Dinaric” metaphorically, haplotype (70%), Muslims less (50%), and Serbs even less (40%).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_populations_of_Europe

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "Same same but different" if a Thai was looking at them and trying to understand those differences more profoundly.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  186. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Daniel H

    They are not the "same people", even at the genetic level (which has little to do with peoplehood).

    According to male line investigations, Croats from Herzegovina have the highest average I2a1, "Dinaric" metaphorically, haplotype (70%), Muslims less (50%), and Serbs even less (40%).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_populations_of_Europe

    Replies: @Commentator Mike

    “Same same but different” if a Thai was looking at them and trying to understand those differences more profoundly.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Commentator Mike

    A bottle of water & a bottle of vitriol are externally indistinguishable.

  187. @Anonymous
    Don't watch pro sports. Question why anyone 'who looks like me' does.

    Replies: @Truth

    Don’t watch pro sports. Question why anyone ‘who looks like me’ does.

    Well, we all have our deficiencies, but, I mean, let’s focus on the positive side, Bro.

    You do have Cher as a mom, and she bought you a hooker for your birthday in High School…

    https://imgix.ranker.com/user_node_img/50037/1000739428/original/then-you-come-back-photo-u1?w=650&q=50&fm=pjpg&fit=crop&crop=faces

  188. I might as well add something about pop-genetics some people seem to be obsessed with

    1. as far as I know, only Jews have done their homework correctly. They took both male line (Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup) and the female line (mitochondrial DNA haplogroup).

    Population genealogy aficionados tend to overlook that their samples are too small (20 to 200 people, say); also, they almost exclusively take only male line. It’s just like thinking a baby is white if she has a white father and a black mother (forget about her).

    2. as I said, sample sizes are too small, 20 to 200 individuals. Only with over 1000, or 2000- you can get more reliable results.

    3. then, there are subclades which are frequently lumped together, but there is a significant differentiation between them. It is still not clear while in the SE region there is a significant E haplotype grouping, from 20% to 50% (Albanians, Greeks, Serbs, Bulgarians, Macedonians, Romanians,…), which can be found in the Horn of Africa, too (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-M215_(Y-DNA)). But there are a bunch of sub-branches that make analysis difficult re population genetics.

    4. also, there is, as I see it, not much relevance not only re culture, but even with regard to physical appearance: the most common Western group is R (50% to 70%- French, English, Irish, Dutch, north Italians, Portuguese…. but, interestingly enough, it is rare among Scandinavians like Icelanders or Norwegians: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_populations_of_Europe). This poses many questions about population genetics & phenotype.

    In my opinion- this is a body of knowledge still in infancy.

  189. @Barnard
    https://nba.nbcsports.com/2021/06/14/report-luka-doncic-dislikes-mavericks-de-facto-co-general-manager-haralabos-voulgaris/

    Speaking of Eastern European NBA stars, Luca Doncic is unhappy with Mark Cuban and the Mavericks front office. Something tells me Doncic is not enamored with the NBA in general and will probably end up back in Europe before his 30th birthday.

    Replies: @Truth

    LOL, He’s 22.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
  190. @ScarletNumber
    @Commentator Mike

    While Giannis is of Greek nationality, that's like saying former Australian Open champion Caroline Wozniacki is Danish. They are technically factual while still being misleading. Wozniacki, as her name implies, is ethnically Polish, while Giannis, as his appearance implies, is ethnically Nigerian.

    Replies: @Commentator Mike, @Bardon Kaldian, @Truth

    • Troll: ScarletNumber
  191. @Commentator Mike
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "Same same but different" if a Thai was looking at them and trying to understand those differences more profoundly.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    A bottle of water & a bottle of vitriol are externally indistinguishable.

  192. @Adam Grant
    A very large percentage of CV-19 deaths could have been prevented with ivermectin and/or high doses of anti-inflammatory steroids. When anti-inflammatory steroids were given the doses were much to low and they should have been administered for much longer periods of time. NIH recommendations were way to low.

    Big government top-down medicine was a huge fail. Elite lung specialists tried to educate the public and hospital physicians but the information they were giving was suppressed by the MSM, Big Tech and to some degree, Big Pharma. Over a million people died needlessly, I suspect.

    Pharmacists in many hospitals were ordered not to dispense ivermectin, according to a pharmacist I know.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar

    Here in Ecuador you can buy a packet of ivermectin 6 mgs tablets over the counter for $4 at the shopping mall at a stall that sells vitamins.

    This actually strikes me as rather risky, since the drug is extremely dose sensitive, and exceeding the correct dose for your weight is considered to be dangerous as the drug level can accumulate in the blood.

    I don’t know if it DOES help, but it COULD help. But nobody seems to know the optimum dose.

    The use of the cheap steroid dexamethasone in pneumonia and COPD is very well-known to all physicians and always has been. I don’t see how it could be hidden.

    • Replies: @Adam Grant
    @Jonathan Mason

    Corticosteroid doses to treat Covid lung inflammation were initially given in very suboptimal doses. Lung inflammation was the primary cause of patient death. Corticosteroids eere often given to patients for only 10 days instead of the several weeks that might have been needed. Doctors/hospitals were given guidance from the NIH when they should have been listening to tje best lumg specialists on the ground.

    Top-down medicine kills. In 1980 I predicted the FDA would cause a net loss of 1 million lives in my lifetime. Pretty accurate prediction IMO. Sam Peltzman (UCLA) and Milton Friedman probably would have agreed with this prediction. I based it on their analysis of the FDA.


    Ivermectin dosing for Covid:

    This was a gift to us': Ivermectin effective for COVID-19 prophylaxis, treatment

    ...

    "Ivermectin is a key factor in the alliance’s I-MASK+ protocol for prophylaxis and early treatment of outpatients with COVID-19. In the protocol, those at high risk for COVID-19 infection receive ivermectin at 0.2 mg/kg on day 1 and day 3, and weekly for 4 weeks; those who were exposed to COVID-19 receive the same dose at day 1 and day 3; and both groups receive daily doses of vitamin D3, vitamin C, quercetin, zinc and melatonin. For early outpatients with COVID-19, the protocol calls for one dose of ivermectin at 0.2 mg/kg at day 1 and day 3, along with the same daily vitamins and 325 mg per day of aspirin."

    https://www.healio.com/news/primary-care/20201208/this-was-a-gift-to-us-ivermectin-effective-for-covid19-prophylaxis-treatment

  193. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jonathan Mason


    When Wales come up against Italy, we can expect to see kneeling by the Welsh players counteracted by Italian players crossing themselves and invoking the Virgin Mary, and we will get a better empirical understanding of which is more effective.

     

    The Welsh can appeal not only to the Virgin (Llanfair), but to their own St Tysilio as well.


    https://johnrieber.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.jpg

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Llanfair means “Church of St.Mary”, not Virgin.

    Many Welsh place names begin with Llan, whick means Church.

    I guess when place naming and map drawing began, the church was usually the largest identifiable building in a hamlet or town.

    Towns named today would probably all start with the prefix Hospital- or Supermarket-.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jonathan Mason


    Llanfair means “Church of St.Mary”, not Virgin.
     
    Yes, Mary is Mair in Welsh. Lentition changes M to V (written F in Cymric) in compound words. That would have gone over the heads, or under the radar, of everyone this side of Pontypandy.

    "Mary" is indeed present in the hamlet's name. That should be good enough for a drive-by ad [-] lib.


    Towns named today would probably all start with the prefix Hospital- or Supermarket-.
     
    Copenhagen means "trade harbour". The Købe- in Danish is cognate with cheap, as in Cheapside.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheapside#Etymology_and_usage

    Enough pedantry, both of us. Back to Serbs.

  194. @RichardTaylor
    Did anyone know someone who died of Covid in their actual life? I mean one? I don't.

    But there were a lot who died as a result of being intubated early, catching subsequent infections, etc. And of course, all the delayed surgeries and doctor visits.

    And the misery of families not being able to hold the hand of someone dying for other reasons, not being able to see grandmothers in their last year of life.

    Oh, and the mainstreaming of fascist tactics on the population.

    This blog and all the other HBD head cases were irresponsibly pushing predictions of 5 million dead Americans. They demanded action. But notice, the genocidal policies against their people really don't interest them. That's just an interesting fact pattern. After all, they kinda like it when the White proles get taught a lesson.

    Replies: @HA, @keypusher, @CSFurious

    My wife’s great uncle who was in his 90’s and her grandfather who was 89 are the only ones that I am aware of in my “circle”. I also live in the “People’s Republic of New Jersey” which was allegedly highly infected with “Covid-1984”.

    • Thanks: RichardTaylor
  195. @Jonathan Mason
    @Reg Cæsar

    Llanfair means "Church of St.Mary", not Virgin.

    Many Welsh place names begin with Llan, whick means Church.

    I guess when place naming and map drawing began, the church was usually the largest identifiable building in a hamlet or town.

    Towns named today would probably all start with the prefix Hospital- or Supermarket-.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Llanfair means “Church of St.Mary”, not Virgin.

    Yes, Mary is Mair in Welsh. Lentition changes M to V (written F in Cymric) in compound words. That would have gone over the heads, or under the radar, of everyone this side of Pontypandy.

    “Mary” is indeed present in the hamlet’s name. That should be good enough for a drive-by ad [-] lib.

    Towns named today would probably all start with the prefix Hospital- or Supermarket-.

    Copenhagen means “trade harbour”. The Købe- in Danish is cognate with cheap, as in Cheapside.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheapside#Etymology_and_usage

    Enough pedantry, both of us. Back to Serbs.

  196. @Adam Grant
    A very large percentage of CV-19 deaths could have been prevented with ivermectin and/or high doses of anti-inflammatory steroids. When anti-inflammatory steroids were given the doses were much to low and they should have been administered for much longer periods of time. NIH recommendations were way to low.

    Big government top-down medicine was a huge fail. Elite lung specialists tried to educate the public and hospital physicians but the information they were giving was suppressed by the MSM, Big Tech and to some degree, Big Pharma. Over a million people died needlessly, I suspect.

    Pharmacists in many hospitals were ordered not to dispense ivermectin, according to a pharmacist I know.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar

    I have Think Again out from the library. You’re not that Adam Grant, are you?

    A big kudos with cheesesteak sauce if you are. What’s it like to lean in to Sheryl Sandberg?

    • Replies: @Adam Grant
    @Reg Cæsar

    Definitely not that Adam Grant. Watched one of his TED talks once. I know Sheryl Sandberg likes him but she's presently engaged to a guy with more hair.

  197. Off-topic, but hilarious.

    We have heard a lot lately about how stressful it is for poor, shy professional athletes to have to face mandatory press conferences where they are asked lots of nasty questions like “Why do you think you won/lost today, and what do you have to say to your opponent?”

    Naomi Osaka cracked up at the French Open and has now been flown back to the bosom of her therapy group in Florida to practice volleying with the press.

    Meanwhile at the European Soccer Championships, venerable and venerated Portuguese star Cristiano Ronaldo, 36, who is a bit of a fitness fanatic, to say the least, started his press conference by removing two bottles of Coca-Cola from the table in front of him, and replacing them with a bottle of water, to which he attributes his eternal youth, muttering “Coca-Cola. Yuch!”

    Coca-Cola is an official sponsor of the championships.

    One wonders whether this will go viral as the supreme celebrity non endorsement, or lead to sponsors insisting that players not be interviewed after games.

  198. @Matra
    @Anon 2


    In the last several months Poland’s Iga Światek has
    generally done so well she’s been described as running a bakery that
    sells bagels (she often defeats opponents 6:0) and breadsticks (6:1)
     
    That doesn't mean much given the very shallow talent pool in women's tennis. Barbora Krejčiková is the sixth different winner in as many years. Unseeded players can't even come close to winning in men's tennis but anything can happen in the low quality women's game.

    BTW Poland just lost 2-1 to tiny Slovakia at Euro 2020. Not good coming off their humiliation at the last World Cup. Wonder why a country as large as Poland (or Russia) constantly fails at football?

    Replies: @Anon 2, @Anon 2

    Who cares about Euro? Polish footballers like Lewandowski, and others
    have done very well financially in recent years. That’s the only thing
    that counts. Euro is just extra work. Who needs it? Polish people are
    not known for greed. Catholicism is based on moderation in all things

    • Replies: @Anon 2
    @Anon 2

    Let me amplify what I said: Catholic ethics is based to a large extent
    on the Aristotelian Principle of the Golden Mean, i.e., virtuous life
    at the very least presupposes moderation in all things. Greed is strongly
    discouraged. And in fact, in contrast to the U.S., Poland has one of
    the lowest levels of social dysfunction (murder, rape, homelessness,
    economic inequality /very few oligarchs/, mass shootings,
    pornography production, opioid addiction, HIV levels, etc) in the world.
    This has even given rise to the HOLY POLAND meme.
    Holiness/enlightenment as an ideal is still strong in Poland
    in contrast to the West’s materialism, e.g., religion of shopping.

    Moderation in all things also implies work-life balance.
    Visitors from Ukraine or Russia are always amazed to see
    how involved Polish fathers are in the raising of their
    children - they see them playing with kids in parks, etc.

    , @Matra
    @Anon 2

    Who cares about Euro?

    Most of Europe, including Poland. Far more Poles care about their national team than Bundesliga.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  199. @Anon 2
    @Matra

    Who cares about Euro? Polish footballers like Lewandowski, and others
    have done very well financially in recent years. That’s the only thing
    that counts. Euro is just extra work. Who needs it? Polish people are
    not known for greed. Catholicism is based on moderation in all things

    Replies: @Anon 2, @Matra

    Let me amplify what I said: Catholic ethics is based to a large extent
    on the Aristotelian Principle of the Golden Mean, i.e., virtuous life
    at the very least presupposes moderation in all things. Greed is strongly
    discouraged. And in fact, in contrast to the U.S., Poland has one of
    the lowest levels of social dysfunction (murder, rape, homelessness,
    economic inequality /very few oligarchs/, mass shootings,
    pornography production, opioid addiction, HIV levels, etc) in the world.
    This has even given rise to the HOLY POLAND meme.
    Holiness/enlightenment as an ideal is still strong in Poland
    in contrast to the West’s materialism, e.g., religion of shopping.

    Moderation in all things also implies work-life balance.
    Visitors from Ukraine or Russia are always amazed to see
    how involved Polish fathers are in the raising of their
    children – they see them playing with kids in parks, etc.

  200. @anonymous
    @Anon 2


    In the research literature focusing on the exceptional tallness
    of people from the Dinaric Alps, they seem to focus on Herzegovina,
     
    How does one go about finding and looking through the “research literature” on a given topic? For example, this one.

    Replies: @Anon 2, @Bla

    https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.161054

    However, the research is not focused solely or even mostly on Herzegovina, which indeed is in the tall zone.

    https://peerj.com/articles/6598/

  201. @Magyar
    @sb

    The Croatia vs Serbia water polo games can get quite heated as they are replaying the Balkan Wars, in effect. Not to mention, the level of water polo is about as high as it gets.

    For some reason Croatia vs Montenegro doesn't get to quite achieve the same level of mutual animosity -- which is a bit odd since Montenegro is sort of a little Serbia. Every Serbian likes to brag about how his grandfather was a Montenegrin -- basically, if you have a Montenegrin in your family tree, you are a real-super-duper-Serbian.

    Very similar to how Hungarians brag about having Transylvanian Hungarian blood in their family tree -- it makes you an extra-awesome-real-deal-Hungarian.

    Transylvania and Montengreo are sort of a like a Jerusalem to Hungarians and Serbians, respectively.

    Anyone else see a trope-pattern like this in other nationalities? ie where a blood link to another geographical region serves to amplify the signal in the home region?

    Usually, the pattern is like in Bavaria -- you are only a real Bavarian if you you can trace your lineage back in Bavaria for 20 generations, anything less than that, you're basically an interloper or foreigner.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Bla

    The Croatia vs Serbia water polo games are indeed heated, but mostly for a sporting rivalry reasons. If there is a team sport where ‘war drums’ have been mostly muted, it’s water polo.

  202. @BB753
    For some reason, Europe's tallest, toughest and most athletic men come from the Balkans. The Dutch are just oversized soy-boys.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Daniel H, @dropkicktheroos, @Bla

    To name just a few sports, the Dutch dominate heavyweight kickboxing. Yup, even if you don’t count those of non European ancestry. They are also among the most successful in Judo.
    And let’s not start about their traditional position and importance in the world of soccer.

  203. @Matra
    @Anon 2


    In the last several months Poland’s Iga Światek has
    generally done so well she’s been described as running a bakery that
    sells bagels (she often defeats opponents 6:0) and breadsticks (6:1)
     
    That doesn't mean much given the very shallow talent pool in women's tennis. Barbora Krejčiková is the sixth different winner in as many years. Unseeded players can't even come close to winning in men's tennis but anything can happen in the low quality women's game.

    BTW Poland just lost 2-1 to tiny Slovakia at Euro 2020. Not good coming off their humiliation at the last World Cup. Wonder why a country as large as Poland (or Russia) constantly fails at football?

    Replies: @Anon 2, @Anon 2

    Re: Shallow talent pool in women’s tennis

    If the talent pool is so shallow in women’s tennis, how come
    the U.S. currently does not even have one good American-born player,
    men or women. I define ‘good’ as someone who often reaches
    quarter finals and sometimes semifinals, but never wins.
    Using this definition, Serena can no longer be regarded
    as ‘good.’ We’re talking about the United States, the country
    that used to completely dominate tennis as recently as the 1990s.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon 2

    Serena Williams is an extremely good tennis player for a 39 year old mom.

    I think she's pretty cool. She a huge 1990s alternative rock fan who owns five electric guitars.

    Replies: @Anon 2

    , @Matra
    @Anon 2

    The US hasn't dominated tennis for ages. The sport's popularity declined massively after the 1980s despite Sampras and Agassi. Kim Clijsters left women's tennis for a year than came back and won her first major.lol Serena almost did the same. Even in the 80s male players couldn't do that. McEnroe never recovered from taking a break. You clearly don't follow tennis. You just follow Poland. When I was on Twitter a few years ago I noticed that the two Poles in my feed - a history professor & a political commentator - would regularly interrupt their history/politics/news tweets to inform us of such important events as Poland winning a junior handball match against...Tunisia...or some similar country. That's a mentality one expects from a small irrelevant country or a village, not a European nation of almost 40 million. Reeks of an inferiority complex.

    Replies: @Anon 2

  204. @Adam Grant
    People that run fast tend to have "high cut" calf muscles, i.e., the lower part of their calves are long and skinny. You can see that trait in many Balkan athletes. They might have a higher percentage of fast twitch muscle fibers on average (just a guess). People with high cut calves are not just faster, they're quicker.

    Jack Nicklaus was a good offensive player in basketball and he was a fairly good sprinter (for a white guy), but he admitted he wasn't quick enough to be a good defensive player. Jack has the opposite of "high cut calves."

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Blapastlimit

    Well, our sprinting speed is nothing to wax lyrically about

    • Replies: @Adam Grant
    @Blapastlimit

    Matthew Bowling will be 21 this Sunday. Best times:
    100m 9.97
    200m 20.06

    Christophe Lemaitre (France) at age 20 or 21 ran
    100m 9.92
    200m 19.80

    Pietro Mennea (Italy) held the 200m world record of 19.72 from 1979-1996. Previous WR set by Tommie Smith on same high altidude track in 1968 Olympics in Mexico City. Mennea also had the 150m WR 1983-2009. Broken by Usain Bolt.

    Many sprinters use PEDs. Justin Gatlin is a notorious example. I believe Bowling and Lemaitre and/were clean. Boling looks like he has high testosterone levels (prominent brow ridge, for example).

    Mennea admitted to having 2 injections of HGH during his last year of competition. At that time it was not a banned substance but Mannea decided he shouldn't have taken the hormone and he retired. He died at age 60. PED related death? I have no idea.

    I was introduced to Dennis Mitchell at a restaurant in Gainesville, FL. a year or so before he got busted for PED use. He was smaller than I thought he was but the veins were suspiciously popping out of his forearms.

  205. @Anon 2
    @Matra

    Re: Shallow talent pool in women’s tennis

    If the talent pool is so shallow in women’s tennis, how come
    the U.S. currently does not even have one good American-born player,
    men or women. I define ‘good’ as someone who often reaches
    quarter finals and sometimes semifinals, but never wins.
    Using this definition, Serena can no longer be regarded
    as ‘good.’ We’re talking about the United States, the country
    that used to completely dominate tennis as recently as the 1990s.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Matra

    Serena Williams is an extremely good tennis player for a 39 year old mom.

    I think she’s pretty cool. She a huge 1990s alternative rock fan who owns five electric guitars.

    • Replies: @Anon 2
    @Steve Sailer

    Well, for a 39-year-old, yes. This and 50 cents will get you
    a cup of coffee 🙂

  206. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon 2

    Serena Williams is an extremely good tennis player for a 39 year old mom.

    I think she's pretty cool. She a huge 1990s alternative rock fan who owns five electric guitars.

    Replies: @Anon 2

    Well, for a 39-year-old, yes. This and 50 cents will get you
    a cup of coffee 🙂

  207. @Anon 2
    @Matra

    Who cares about Euro? Polish footballers like Lewandowski, and others
    have done very well financially in recent years. That’s the only thing
    that counts. Euro is just extra work. Who needs it? Polish people are
    not known for greed. Catholicism is based on moderation in all things

    Replies: @Anon 2, @Matra

    Who cares about Euro?

    Most of Europe, including Poland. Far more Poles care about their national team than Bundesliga.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @Matra

    That person must know very little about football. The Euros are the second biggest sports competition in the world, after the World Cup.

    The last Euro final was watched by 600 million people. Good luck to the organisers of any other event securing so many viewers!

    Replies: @Anon 2

  208. @Anon 2
    @Matra

    Re: Shallow talent pool in women’s tennis

    If the talent pool is so shallow in women’s tennis, how come
    the U.S. currently does not even have one good American-born player,
    men or women. I define ‘good’ as someone who often reaches
    quarter finals and sometimes semifinals, but never wins.
    Using this definition, Serena can no longer be regarded
    as ‘good.’ We’re talking about the United States, the country
    that used to completely dominate tennis as recently as the 1990s.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Matra

    The US hasn’t dominated tennis for ages. The sport’s popularity declined massively after the 1980s despite Sampras and Agassi. Kim Clijsters left women’s tennis for a year than came back and won her first major.lol Serena almost did the same. Even in the 80s male players couldn’t do that. McEnroe never recovered from taking a break. You clearly don’t follow tennis. You just follow Poland. When I was on Twitter a few years ago I noticed that the two Poles in my feed – a history professor & a political commentator – would regularly interrupt their history/politics/news tweets to inform us of such important events as Poland winning a junior handball match against…Tunisia…or some similar country. That’s a mentality one expects from a small irrelevant country or a village, not a European nation of almost 40 million. Reeks of an inferiority complex.

    • Replies: @Anon 2
    @Matra

    You are confusing popularity with domination. The highest ranking
    male tennis player in the U.S. today is ranked 32, that’s in a country
    of 335 million. Back in the ‘90s we had the wonderful rivalry between
    Agassi and Sampras. I call this domination. The poor performance of
    American tennis players today is another example of a country in decline.
    Unlike you I don’t take sports seriously. For me sports are merely
    entertainment, a distraction from what’s really important in life.

    You write on the ego level. You seem preoccupied with the national
    egos. For me a much better measure of how a country is doing is
    the level of social dysfunction which is quantifiable. It’s defined
    in terms of the rates of murder, rape, abortion, homelessness, economic
    inequality, mass shootings, single motherhood, HIV, pornography
    production, obesity, urban squalor, etc In terms of social dysfunction
    the U.S. is in severe decline bordering on dystopia. Russia is doing
    rather poorly due to high levels of murder, abortion, divorce, HIV,
    drug addiction, high level of inequality as measured by the number of
    oligarchs, corruption, etc but not as poorly as the U.S. Poland, and the
    Western Slavs in general, are doing splendidly, giving rise to the
    “Holy Poland” meme. If you’ve seen my posts before, I champion
    Central Europe, and don’t have the highest opinion of the West
    or the East (Russia, Ukraine, etc). I believe Western Slavs, although
    far from perfect, include some of the most highly evolved people
    on earth. Far more than Germanics.

    I recommend Buddhism to you. It’s very helpful to look at things
    from the transegoic perspective, and not be so concerned with
    things that are impermanent. As always, it’s our ego that is our
    enemy, and not others. It’s the ego, individual or national,
    that stands in the way of loving kindness.

  209. @Matra
    @Anon 2

    Who cares about Euro?

    Most of Europe, including Poland. Far more Poles care about their national team than Bundesliga.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    That person must know very little about football. The Euros are the second biggest sports competition in the world, after the World Cup.

    The last Euro final was watched by 600 million people. Good luck to the organisers of any other event securing so many viewers!

    • Replies: @Anon 2
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I meant I personally don’t care about Euro, except to know
    roughly what’s happening. Sports are a form of entertainment,
    that is something that distracts us from what is really important
    in life. To everyone I recommend a trans-egoic perspective
    to see things from a deeper point of view

  210. @Matra
    @Anon 2

    The US hasn't dominated tennis for ages. The sport's popularity declined massively after the 1980s despite Sampras and Agassi. Kim Clijsters left women's tennis for a year than came back and won her first major.lol Serena almost did the same. Even in the 80s male players couldn't do that. McEnroe never recovered from taking a break. You clearly don't follow tennis. You just follow Poland. When I was on Twitter a few years ago I noticed that the two Poles in my feed - a history professor & a political commentator - would regularly interrupt their history/politics/news tweets to inform us of such important events as Poland winning a junior handball match against...Tunisia...or some similar country. That's a mentality one expects from a small irrelevant country or a village, not a European nation of almost 40 million. Reeks of an inferiority complex.

    Replies: @Anon 2

    You are confusing popularity with domination. The highest ranking
    male tennis player in the U.S. today is ranked 32, that’s in a country
    of 335 million. Back in the ‘90s we had the wonderful rivalry between
    Agassi and Sampras. I call this domination. The poor performance of
    American tennis players today is another example of a country in decline.
    Unlike you I don’t take sports seriously. For me sports are merely
    entertainment, a distraction from what’s really important in life.

    You write on the ego level. You seem preoccupied with the national
    egos. For me a much better measure of how a country is doing is
    the level of social dysfunction which is quantifiable. It’s defined
    in terms of the rates of murder, rape, abortion, homelessness, economic
    inequality, mass shootings, single motherhood, HIV, pornography
    production, obesity, urban squalor, etc In terms of social dysfunction
    the U.S. is in severe decline bordering on dystopia. Russia is doing
    rather poorly due to high levels of murder, abortion, divorce, HIV,
    drug addiction, high level of inequality as measured by the number of
    oligarchs, corruption, etc but not as poorly as the U.S. Poland, and the
    Western Slavs in general, are doing splendidly, giving rise to the
    “Holy Poland” meme. If you’ve seen my posts before, I champion
    Central Europe, and don’t have the highest opinion of the West
    or the East (Russia, Ukraine, etc). I believe Western Slavs, although
    far from perfect, include some of the most highly evolved people
    on earth. Far more than Germanics.

    I recommend Buddhism to you. It’s very helpful to look at things
    from the transegoic perspective, and not be so concerned with
    things that are impermanent. As always, it’s our ego that is our
    enemy, and not others. It’s the ego, individual or national,
    that stands in the way of loving kindness.

  211. @Reg Cæsar
    @Adam Grant

    I have Think Again out from the library. You're not that Adam Grant, are you?

    A big kudos with cheesesteak sauce if you are. What's it like to lean in to Sheryl Sandberg?

    Replies: @Adam Grant

    Definitely not that Adam Grant. Watched one of his TED talks once. I know Sheryl Sandberg likes him but she’s presently engaged to a guy with more hair.

  212. @Triteleia Laxa
    @Matra

    That person must know very little about football. The Euros are the second biggest sports competition in the world, after the World Cup.

    The last Euro final was watched by 600 million people. Good luck to the organisers of any other event securing so many viewers!

    Replies: @Anon 2

    I meant I personally don’t care about Euro, except to know
    roughly what’s happening. Sports are a form of entertainment,
    that is something that distracts us from what is really important
    in life. To everyone I recommend a trans-egoic perspective
    to see things from a deeper point of view

  213. @Blapastlimit
    @Adam Grant

    Well, our sprinting speed is nothing to wax lyrically about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olVi6HaHEmI

    Replies: @Adam Grant

    Matthew Bowling will be 21 this Sunday. Best times:
    100m 9.97
    200m 20.06

    Christophe Lemaitre (France) at age 20 or 21 ran
    100m 9.92
    200m 19.80

    Pietro Mennea (Italy) held the 200m world record of 19.72 from 1979-1996. Previous WR set by Tommie Smith on same high altidude track in 1968 Olympics in Mexico City. Mennea also had the 150m WR 1983-2009. Broken by Usain Bolt.

    Many sprinters use PEDs. Justin Gatlin is a notorious example. I believe Bowling and Lemaitre and/were clean. Boling looks like he has high testosterone levels (prominent brow ridge, for example).

    Mennea admitted to having 2 injections of HGH during his last year of competition. At that time it was not a banned substance but Mannea decided he shouldn’t have taken the hormone and he retired. He died at age 60. PED related death? I have no idea.

    I was introduced to Dennis Mitchell at a restaurant in Gainesville, FL. a year or so before he got busted for PED use. He was smaller than I thought he was but the veins were suspiciously popping out of his forearms.

  214. @Jonathan Mason
    @Adam Grant

    Here in Ecuador you can buy a packet of ivermectin 6 mgs tablets over the counter for $4 at the shopping mall at a stall that sells vitamins.

    This actually strikes me as rather risky, since the drug is extremely dose sensitive, and exceeding the correct dose for your weight is considered to be dangerous as the drug level can accumulate in the blood.

    I don't know if it DOES help, but it COULD help. But nobody seems to know the optimum dose.

    The use of the cheap steroid dexamethasone in pneumonia and COPD is very well-known to all physicians and always has been. I don't see how it could be hidden.

    Replies: @Adam Grant

    Corticosteroid doses to treat Covid lung inflammation were initially given in very suboptimal doses. Lung inflammation was the primary cause of patient death. Corticosteroids eere often given to patients for only 10 days instead of the several weeks that might have been needed. Doctors/hospitals were given guidance from the NIH when they should have been listening to tje best lumg specialists on the ground.

    Top-down medicine kills. In 1980 I predicted the FDA would cause a net loss of 1 million lives in my lifetime. Pretty accurate prediction IMO. Sam Peltzman (UCLA) and Milton Friedman probably would have agreed with this prediction. I based it on their analysis of the FDA.

    Ivermectin dosing for Covid:

    This was a gift to us’: Ivermectin effective for COVID-19 prophylaxis, treatment

    “Ivermectin is a key factor in the alliance’s I-MASK+ protocol for prophylaxis and early treatment of outpatients with COVID-19. In the protocol, those at high risk for COVID-19 infection receive ivermectin at 0.2 mg/kg on day 1 and day 3, and weekly for 4 weeks; those who were exposed to COVID-19 receive the same dose at day 1 and day 3; and both groups receive daily doses of vitamin D3, vitamin C, quercetin, zinc and melatonin. For early outpatients with COVID-19, the protocol calls for one dose of ivermectin at 0.2 mg/kg at day 1 and day 3, along with the same daily vitamins and 325 mg per day of aspirin.”

    https://www.healio.com/news/primary-care/20201208/this-was-a-gift-to-us-ivermectin-effective-for-covid19-prophylaxis-treatment

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