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Yesterday I explained in my new Taki’s Magazine column that the big enchilada of the “equity” movement is your equity in your home. Now, from USA Today:

Biden’s infrastructure plan calls for cities to limit single-family zoning and instead build affordable housing

Biden’s infrastructure bill aims to curb exclusionary zoning, which has led to racial segregation and climate vulnerability for low-income Americans.

Romina Ruiz-Goiriena, USA TODAY
Published 3:36 AM PDT Apr. 14, 2021 Updated 2:36 PM PDT Apr. 14, 2021

President Joe Biden wants cities to put more apartment buildings and multifamily units, such as converted garages, in areas traditionally zoned for single-family housing. As part of his $2.3 trillion infrastructure plan, cities would allow for smaller lots and for apartment buildings with fewer than six units to be built next to a traditional house.

Current zoning laws that favor single-family homes – known as exclusionary zoning – have disproportionately hurt low-income Americans. Many of them can’t afford to buy a big lot of land, leaving them trapped in crowded neighborhoods earmarked in the past for Black and brown residents, while white families were able to move to single-family areas in the suburbs.

Biden’s proposal would award grants and tax credits to cities that change zoning laws to bolster more equitable access to affordable housing. A house with a white picket fence and a big backyard for a Fourth of July barbecue may be a staple of the American dream, but experts and local politicians say multifamily zoning is key to combating climate change, racial injustice and the nation’s growing affordable housing crisis.

We need to build more housing, but we shouldn’t be building new affordable housing. Old housing should be the affordable housing. The problem with building new affordable housing is that as it ages, it automatically turns into dumpy housing. Instead, you should build new upscale housing that as it ages becomes affordable housing and can eventually be renovated back into nice housing.

I used to own a condo in Chicago that had been optimistically built in 1923 with 9 foot ceilings. Then in the Depression, everybody went broke, so this seven-room apartment was broken up into two apartments. In the 1970s, however, it was restored to one apartment and, guess what, the ceiling were still 9 feet tall.

In contrast, if it had been built as a tenement in 1923 with 7.5′ ceilings and three or four room apartments, well, that’s as good as it would ever get. You can’t raise the ceiling. It would have remained a boat anchor dragging down the neighborhood.

The bill has not been written, but the White House said it wants to see progress by Memorial Day, and to pass legislation this summer.

U.S. Housing and Urban Development Secretary Marcia Fudge told USA TODAY that the administration’s plan would support communities looking to undo housing practices that too often discriminate against people of color.

“The result of this sort of investment will be critical to increasing housing options for low- and moderate-income families,” Fudge said.

The push for zoning changes comes as the Biden administration continues to reverse former President Donald Trump’s housing policies aimed at chipping away anti-discrimination and civil rights protections. As part of his re-election push, Trump had accused Democrats of wanting to “abolish the suburbs.”

But now, with Biden’s new push for building apartment buildings for people of color in the suburbs, we can see just how wrong Trump was.

Under Biden, HUD recently submitted two fair housing rules for review, according to notices posted Tuesday by the Office of Management and Budget. One of the policies would reinstate the Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing rule requiring cities to reverse segregation or risk losing federal funds. The other would restore “disparate impact,” a decades-old legal standard that outlaws discriminatory lending and renting practices.

Federal policy was designed to protect people from discrimination when they are renting or buying a home, but regulating land use and zoning is largely a function of local government. Biden’s infrastructure plan could significantly increase local budgets decimated during the COVID-19 economic recession – an attractive proposal for some mayors who already support affordable housing policies but want cash to cover the cost of these projects.

The Not So Great Reset.

Mayor Ras Baraka of Newark, New Jersey, said his city plans to “take full advantage” of the federal dollars to bolster a 10-year master planning process and increase access to affordable housing for Black and brown residents.

Newark is 12 miles from Wall Street. It’s mayor, the son of 1960s black radical poet Leroi Jones, is intent on making sure that the descendants of Philip Roth Era Newark don’t gentrify the place.

Critics of up-zoning – the practice of undoing single-family housing restrictions often referred to as “NIMBY-ism” – say multifamily housing decreases property values.

What’s a few trillion in property values compared to racial equity?

They argue that increased density would strain existing infrastructure such as schools, transportation, stormwater and public safety services.

“A legitimate reason for regulating density is to assure that the density of the residential environment is appropriate for the existing public infrastructure,” urban planners Gerritt Knapp and Nicholas Finio, of the University of Maryland, College Park, wrote in the Journal of the American Planning Association.

A legitimate reason for regulating density is to avoid externalities.

Environmental scientists and advocates have also welcomed Biden’s proposal, saying that zoning changes and increased density in cities has the potential to mitigate climate impact for low-income residents and those of color.

Many people of color were shut out from homeownership during decades of systemic redlining practices, where financial institutions limited mortgage loans and housing insurance to residents in specific geographic areas.

One study in Climate, an academic journal, found once-redlined neighborhoods in 108 cities experienced higher daily temperatures compared to nonredlined areas – in some cases by up to 10 degrees Fahrenheit. The report showed previously redlined neighborhoods had fewer parks, trees and were closer to industrial areas, which use up more electricity.

“Though the maps may no longer have redlines on them, the patterns and boundaries they established are much harder to undo,” said Stephanie Rosendorf, a Florida-based attorney and urban policy teaching assistant at Harvard Extension School.

Black people can’t move across invisible redlines in the street that were outlawed in 1968. In contrast, national borders haven’t stopped tens of millions of Latin Americans and Asians from moving to America since then.

By the National Multifamily Housing Council’s analysis, the United States would need to add an average of 328,000 units every year by 2030 to meet the demand of a growing population. The nation has succeeded in hitting that only mark three times since 1989.

Sounds like we need More Immigration.

In the 1995-2015 tough-on-crime era, we haven’t seen that many rapid neighborhood tipping points like we did around 1970 in which blacks pour into a community and whites flee within months. This might be partly due to lower black population growth and better protection against crime. Instead, we more often see a steady change in which older whites don’t necessarily move out of neighborhoods into which blacks are buying, finding black homeowners to be okay neighbors, but their children move out to avoid their old neighborhood’s public schools. So the public schools tip nonwhite well before the population does.

This was the pattern in Ferguson, Missouri, in which blacks steadily increased their share of the population from 1990 to 2010 without triggering a sudden white exodus. (But eventually, affordable housing apartments for Section 8 renters, such as Michael Brown’s family, were built in Ferguson, with well-known results.)

This steady white exodus seems to have been going on in Brooklyn Center, MN, judging from Wikipedia numbers:

2000 census
… The city’s racial makeup was 71.39% White, 14.09% African American, 0.87% Native American, 8.79% Asian, 0.01% Pacific Islander, 1.49% from other races, and 3.36% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 2.82% of the population.

2010 census
… The racial makeup of the city was 49.1% White, 25.9% African American, 0.8% Native American, 14.3% Asian, 0.1% Pacific Islander, 5.4% from other races, and 4.4% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 9.6% of the population.

Of course, as the examples of Ferguson and Brooklyn Center show, this slower process can still wind up being catastrophic for property values.

If you want integration of neighborhoods, you need tough law and order. The exact opposite thing to do is to announce a Racial Reckoning in which blacks are encouraged to riot and steal and shoot and then declare you are going to integrate the suburbs.

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  1. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Lowered property values? Sounds like a great idea, they’re already unrealistically high in most suburbs. Fuck boomers.

  2. Kimmelson says:

    Too many words, Steve. It’s very simple: people need housing in order to live.

    Exclusionary zoning laws are designed to prevent that.

    These laws have to go.

    Keep it simple please.

  3. Altai says:

    But they won’t lower the values in total, they’ll just displace demand and ability to pay, somewhere else will end up with higher prices. And they’ll be lower because it won’t be pleasant to live there.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
  4. Why post 2 nearly identical columns in a row?

  5. @Kimmelson

    It’s very simple: people need housing in order to live.

    Ok. How many people can we put in your spare bedroom this week? How about 4?

    Do you have a garage? We’ll be stacking another 8 in there. Ok?

    Exclusionary zoning laws are designed to prevent that.

    Zoning prevents people from living? Srsly?

    These laws have to go.

    Keep it simple please.

    Can do!

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
  6. As part of his $2.3 trillion infrastructure plan, cities would allow for smaller lots and for apartment buildings with fewer than six units to be built next to a traditional house

    Doesn’t seem like such a big deal on the surface. Six units is nothing. It’s actually only slightly bigger than a duplex. The bigger issue is whether they’ll force developers to accept Sec 8–“disparate impact” suggests they will. If they do you’ll see endless litigation. Of course affluent suburbs will just turn down the federal money and carry on as usual. The middle-class suburbs on the other hand…

  7. Danindc says:

    I checked, Marcia Fudge is brown.

    • LOL: Cortes
  8. Anon[273] • Disclaimer says:

    Yeah, a 65-year-old’s “property values” is my “can’t afford to buy a house”. In the area where I live, and where my family has lived for several centuries, housing is considerably more expensive in real terms than it was a generation ago. Which is great for people who bought a generation ago, but for my cohort not so much.

    At some point you just need to build more housing. Restricting development in the face of population growth is effectively a wealth transfer from the young to the old.

    Anyway, in Steve’s Value Voters research of a few years ago, he found that white people have a higher housing price elasticity of demand for children. In other words, high housing prices depress all birth rates, but they disproportionately depress white birthrates.

  9. @Altai

    No, it won’t be unpleassnt to live there, hence why people are colonizing black neighborhoods now. Property values are incredibly sensitive to minor increases in crime, unmowed lawns, etc. It’s easy to forget that crime rates are unusually low in the USA right now, particularly in suburbs, and that this is part of what has driven (or rather, enabled) the incomprehensible increase in property values — despite the hilarious decline in home quality and also fertility rates and marriages (something that would result in apocalyptic declines in home values in a country subject to reality).

  10. JimDandy says:

    Putting projects in every suburb will definitely fuck boomers. As well as everyone else who lives there.

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Disagree: JohnPlywood
    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
  11. @Anonymous

    I agree that lowering property values is great. But Biden wants to lower standards of living, not just property values.

  12. Anon7 says:

    “… cities would allow for smaller lots.”

    Like this?

    • Replies: @Polistra
  13. unit472 says:

    Biden would have to really offer incentives to get people to allow an apartment building on a street that would, e.g lower the value of the existing houses by a couple of million dollars ( worth more than the 6 unit ‘affordable housing’) as well as generate lower property taxes.

    What has happened to once affordable housing in inner suburbs is illustrative. My father’s first house, a 3 br 1 1/2 bath in Fairfax County was torn down and replaced with a McMansion. Same thing happened in Palo Alto. The lot becomes more valuable than the structure built on it. If you allow high density construction on expensive land builders will build luxury high rise condos as that is the only way they can make money.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  14. Anon[407] • Disclaimer says:

    About a week after her move, the Associated Press reported, Mayor Byrne looked out of her window at Cabrini Green, saw a boy “bouncing a basketball” and declared it time to ease out of her move. At the end of that week, the news service said, Byrne would start “splitting her time” between Apartment 416 and her actual home. She said she would return, “occasionally.”

  15. @JimDandy

    Nah, it’ll help millennials and attract more of them there. Millennials have been having to gentrify black neighborhoods for nearly 2 decades because boomers kept housing too expensive for them in their home neighborhoods.

    By the way, it’s doubtful that the white population decreased in Brooklyn Center, MN due to white flight. That’s because the Asian population percentage nearly doubled, as did the Hispanics. Something that is never associated with white flight or lowering property values. It’s mostly just white women not reproducing** and outmigration of white millennials and Gen Z (due to unaffordability) that resulted in the decline.

    **This is also the primary cause of the national decline of the white population.

  16. @Anonymous

    Fuck boomers.

    Check your systemic ageism, young man! Well, guessing that you’re a man — no offense intended.

    The Z Man often makes a good point. Generational divisions in no way help us in the short term.

    • Agree: Just another serf
  17. @Bragadocious

    If they do you’ll see endless litigation.

    Endless? Way ahead of you

    BTW, six is three times two.

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
  18. @Kibernetika

    Generational divisions in no way help us in the short term.

    Or in the long term. One reason the MSM are so keen to foment them, and the brainwashed fall readily in line as always.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
  19. JMcG says:

    Wow, if only there were a way to control population growth.

  20. anon[268] • Disclaimer says:

    Goodbye America that we knew. The ghetto will be moved near you unless you are top 10%.

    A few will go rural. but most cant. Most will just have to accept their suburb will never be the same, and be privately unhappy.

    You can look for another nation on this earth, or grin and bear what is being done to your equity.
    You dont have to sign up for the military and defend this place though.

    • Replies: @new Stalin
    , @ricpic
  21. I’m gonna discuss something in this comment that is not about the racial angle in this attempt to screw over suburbia, but it may be just as scary, as far as the future goes. Steve says:

    What’s a few trillion in property values compared to racial equity?

    I think that’s a good ballpark figure. Take 10 million houses losing $100,000 apiece due to this destruction by negroization. That’s a cool Trillion dollars. Maybe it’d be 2 or 3 times as many units but only with average losses of $75,000 or whatever. Yeah, a couple of trillion dollars is a lot of money, one can see from this.

    Yet, look at the number bandied about by Zhou Bai Dien’s people: $2.3 Trillion in the 1st paragraph of the series of excerpts. That should make you go, wait, you mean they will spend an amount of money roughly equal to that huge destruction of a value of a very significant amount of American housing units?

    What does that mean? The 1st number represents a huge sum, real-asset-wise, yet the 2nd number is just another of various spending initiatives being proposed to bring the US National debt up to, what $27 Trillion, $32, Trillion, shoot, make it an even 40.

    Here’s what it means: Big inflation is coming. It can’t NOT come. You can’t equate two things of different value using the same amount of US currency without something having to give. It’ll be prices that give.

    Those houses in the Biden-destroyed suburbs may actually still go up in price. It’s just that a Big Mac meal will be at $37.99, and that 2×4 that cost 79 cents in the 1990s, up to 6 bucks now, will cost $34.99 and to build a new house like your now up-to-$740,000 1,800 sq-ft house in New Ferguson (with the 7.5 ft ceilings – sorry, Steve!) will cost, yeah, $740,000 to rebuild, were it hit by a tornado, flood or, more likely, riot …

    • Disagree: JohnPlywood
  22. @HammerJack

    Give a single example how the MSM has attempted to “forment generational division”.
    (This is the part where your face turns red and your keyboard gets smashed to death.)

  23. Hi There says:

    The left’s reasons of the legacy of white supremacy, blah, blah are pure craziness, but there are completely reasonable non-racial libertarian arguments for scaling back zoning restrictions and giving property owners more flexibility with how to use their property. Lots of people love nice big lawns, and if they are willing to pay market rates, then great, but if other people would prefer to trade in lawn space for living space, and they are also paying market rates, there’s a strong case that they should also have the right to enjoy their property the way that they would like.

    Ben Carson led the HUD under the Trump Administration and he tried to persuade local governments to back away from single family zoning laws. Ben Carson reversed in 2020, probably for the election.

    Minneapolis famously ended single family zoning in 2019. Personally, I’d prefer seeing a few more cities like Minneapolis give it a shot, and give it a few years to see how it goes, and then it is positive, spread the policy wider. I don’t like that the Democrats are making this a white villain story. I don’t like that they are going to force this at the national level rather than persuade local governments to willingly adopt as Ben Carson attempted. And maybe I will hate the change, but there’s a good chance it will be a positive development.

    • Replies: @black sea
    , @MarkinLA
  24. @HammerJack

    BTW, six is three times two.

    You have to consider square footage, not floors. The average studio apartment is 500 square feet. You can fit four of them in a typical duplex, possibly more.

  25. Nathan says:

    But think of the opportunity for future slum lords! Think of how much more money a bank can make off of renting multifamily housing to 6 families of low wage laborers and compare that to the current model of one family hogging up all the equity in their homes and *gasp* maybe even paying off their mortgages! And then the financial derivatives! One family can default on a loan, a tenement is always a tenement and some broke loser will have to live there. Who wouldn’t want to get in on that income stream? AAA+ debt can finance the construction of these places. It will add trillions to the economy for guys in suits on Wallstreet named Not You.

    • Agree: beavertales
    • Replies: @Cortes
    , @MarkinLA
  26. Polistra says:

    Rio’s a great example of how humans can trash even the most spectacular natural scenery. Reminds me of California.

  27. anon[164] • Disclaimer says:

    The idea is to make our suburbs as unlivable as our inner cities. It’s called equity.

    What we are seeing in cities like Seattle and Portland is, as non-whites move to the suburbs, whites move back into the inner cities. Seattle and Portland are two of the whitest cities in America, with over 75% whites, while suburban Bellevue(of Seattle) is now “minority majority”, over 50% Asian and Hispanic.

  28. [Minorities] can’t afford to buy a big lot of land, leaving them… in…neighborhoods earmarked…for Black and brown residents, while white families were able to move to single-family areas in the suburbs

    This liberal gets it.

  29. Polistra says:


    • LOL: HammerJack
  30. black sea says:
    @Hi There

    I generally agree with you. There are reasonable arguments for mixed-use development, and at least in some places, it works well and creates more flexible and attractive living and transit options. However, a lot depends on where it is implemented and who occupies this housing. For this reason, an approach that works well in one location may be disastrous in another. I don’t think the Federal government really needs to involve itself in such location-specific decisions, but then I think this is the case for more than 50% of Federal government initiatives.

  31. “… forced to live near industrial areas, which use more electricity”. So they live closer to jobs, or don’t POCs have jobs in industrial areas?
    Or is the idea to get rid of industrial areas to fight “climate change”?

  32. Anon7 says:

    While we’re abolishing the suburbs… we might as well get rid of the police.

    Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib on Tuesday:

    “It wasn’t an accident. Policing in our country is inherently & intentionally racist.

    “Daunte Wright was met with aggression & violence. I am done with those who condone government funded murder.

    No more policing, incarceration, and militarization. It can’t be reformed.

  33. @Kibernetika

    Generational divisions in no way help us in the short term.

    But older people retiring on the backs of younger people by pushing up property values is not “generational division”? It’s like “class war” that only the poor are guilty of because it only counts when the wrong side does it.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    , @Kibernetika
  34. Of course the solution to unaffordable housing is pretty simple but impossible for normie Americans to wrap their minds around.

    If people are ethnically and culturally homogeneous they can live fairly densely packed without causing problems, at least if we’re talking about Europeans or Asians. The old European city centers are very, very dense, but those places are some of the most desirable places to live in the world. Ditto for many places in Asia. From an affordability perspective and an environmental perspective these dense settlements are ideal. Heck, even from a livability perspective–deep down I don’t think most people really like commuting from the suburbs or taking care of a lawn and would be pleased as punch to live in a smaller, central place that was walkable to work (but ONLY in a non-diverse neighborhood.)

    But…we can’t just say that. We can’t just tell the truth. So, people say they want neighborhoods with ‘good schools’ or whatever BS euphemisms people use. And we end up with development that is designed to exclude dysfunctional blacks using legal methods. The neighborhoods with good schools are designed to be impossible to live in without a car, difficult to find rentals, etc., just random things to make life harder for underclass blacks and keep them out. The problem is those strategies also make life harder for whites, particularly poorer or younger whites trying to start families. So it’s fairly self defeating.

    It’s very unhealthy to lie to yourself.

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
  35. @SimpleSong

    Also, of course, reducing population growth from immigration would help, that goes without saying.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
  36. Bill P says:

    I go through the neighborhoods in my little provincial city and see real pieces of crap selling for $700k while the median household income for young families is under $50k. Most of the year the weather sucks here, and the houses start rotting a couple decades after they’re built due to the cold, damp weather. Roofs get covered with moss, mold accumulates everywhere, and where it doesn’t flood there are slides.

    So you’ve got all these old farts on pensions paid for by the young who are “rich” because their dump of a house is supposedly worth nearly a million bucks. This despite the fact that this county has less than 10% the population density of New Jersey and plenty of room (and timber) to build, yet the local Democrats insist on “density,” which means you can get a 1200 square foot condo for $500k, and if it has a view you can gaze out upon endless acres covered with timber that are owned by the state’s public schools (no kidding).

    It’s a huge scam all around. People should be furious about this ripoff.

    Maybe this obsession with preserving neighborhood character means something in LA, but in much of the country, much of it majority white btw, overvalued real estate is an enormous parasitic burden and has been engineered by greedy bastards.

    • Replies: @CapitalistRoader
  37. Nachum says:

    The reference to Roth is more apt than you’d think: The mayor’s father famously blamed 9/11 on the Jews, and got himself fired over it. Looks like the son is out for revenge.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @ScarletNumber
  38. @SimpleSong

    Perhaps slightly, but immigrants tend to cluster in ethnic enclaves where few native born citizens live anyway. They’re also still a fairly small percentage of the population despite years of chain migration. Immigrants are the minutia of the real estate crisis in America. It’s probable that they’re doing more good than harm on the county level just from the insane amount of taxes they pay. Immigration is a losing issue, because any problems they create are dimunitive, while the benefits they pay out in taxes are huge. That’s why no one, including Republicans, has ever taken any serious step to reduce elite immigrant growth.

  39. I wonder if those White suburban women who felt “uncomfortable” with Trump will appreciate their new neighbors?

    • Replies: @Forbes
  40. Argghhhhh, I somehow double posted this one and got comments on each. OK, here are the 20 comments from the first posting of this, which I’m now going to delete:

    Anon[187] • Disclaimer says:
    April 15, 2021 at 1:47 am GMT • 3.6 hours ago(Edit-4591398) ↑
    We can only hope that in the future New York City will be populated solely by the transnational hyper-rich and literal peons that do menial work for them. Build that affordable housing.

    Anonymous[376] • Disclaimer says:
    April 15, 2021 at 1:48 am GMT • 3.6 hours ago(Edit-4591399) ↑

    • Replies: @Polistra, @Change that Matters

    Anon[187] • Disclaimer says:
    April 15, 2021 at 1:50 am GMT • 3.6 hours ago • 100 Words(Edit-4591403) ↑
    Many of them can’t afford to buy a big lot of land, leaving them trapped in crowded neighborhoods earmarked in the past for




    residents, while


    families were able to move to single-family areas in the suburbs.

    So strange these choices of capitalization.

    And the phrase “brown people” appears to be gaining currency in common usage. Any bets as to how long “brown” remains lowercase?

    415 reasons says:
    April 15, 2021 at 1:52 am GMT • 3.5 hours ago(Edit-4591408) ↑
    Seems like a really strange coincidence that three orthogonal crises— “climate change, racial injustice and the nation’s growing affordable housing crisis”— would all have an identical solution.

    • Replies: @James J O’Meara

    HammerJack says:
    April 15, 2021 at 2:00 am GMT • 3.4 hours ago(Edit-4591420) ↑
    The wreckage. It comes at you fast.

    • Agree: Just another serf

    Reg Cæsar says:
    April 15, 2021 at 2:02 am GMT • 3.4 hours ago(Edit-4591422) ↑
    Compton is a suburb, the Upper West Side is not. Riverdale and Calumet City are suburbs, Lincoln Park is not.

    Density isn’t the story here.

    • Agree: Wilkey

    JohnnyWalker123 says:
    April 15, 2021 at 2:04 am GMT • 3.3 hours ago(Edit-4591427) ↑
    How do they maintain racial peace in Israel?

    • Replies: @Alexander Turok

    Alexander Turok says: • Website
    April 15, 2021 at 2:26 am GMT • 3.0 hours ago • 100 Words(Edit-4591456) ↑
    The funny thing is that many of the same people who cheer single-family zoning as a way to keep out the vibrancy are the very same people wondering why this lazy millennial generation won’t move out of their parents’ houses.

    Anyway I think the whole story is overrated. The NIMBYs don’t just oppose vibrant housing, they oppose any housing development, whether dense or non-dense, affordable or un-affordable, anything that can allow some developer to make a *outrage face* profit.(Which they, inverting standard supply-and-demand reasoning, see as increasing housing costs)

    Alexander Turok says: • Website
    April 15, 2021 at 2:27 am GMT • 3.0 hours ago(Edit-4591461) ↑
    There’s a lot of support for outright segregation, 75% of Israeli Jews do not approve of apartment buildings being shared between Arabs and Jews:,7340,L-3381978,00.html

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123

    Wilkey says:
    April 15, 2021 at 2:31 am GMT • 2.9 hours ago • 100 Words(Edit-4591467) ↑
    I think what they think they’re doing is redistributing the Democrats, so that the suburbs will move solidly to the Left.

    What they’re going to really be doing is moving whites living in the suburbs who now get to live with this and can’t escape it – the way, say, someone in Matha’s Vineyard or Malibu can – far, far to the right.

    I’ve lived in almost a dozen towns. Never once have I ever lived where I didn’t feel that it was safe for me and my family to go out for a walk after dark. And I sure as hell have no intention of letting that change.

    • Agree: Adam Smith

    Wilkey says:
    April 15, 2021 at 2:48 am GMT • 2.6 hours ago(Edit-4591505) ↑
    How any American could have actually lived through 2020 and not seen how completely insane the Democratic Party was becoming is beyond me. It’s astonishing.

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
    Anonymous[102] • Disclaimer says:
    April 15, 2021 at 2:51 am GMT • 2.6 hours ago • 100 Words(Edit-4591511) ↑
    I noticed this little tidbit from the article:

    “Biden’s proposal would award grants and tax credits to cities that change zoning laws to bolster more equitable access to affordable housing.”

    And then this bit of leftoid mumbo jumbo:

    “experts and local politicians say multifamily zoning is key to combating climate change, racial injustice and the nation’s growing affordable housing crisis.”

    Climate change?! It seems like these liberal eggheads in the media are always competing with each other to see who can come up with the most avant-garde nonsense to top yesterday’s avant-garde nonsense.
    “How fighting for trans rights lessens systemic racism and reduces climate change and leads to greater equity for the undocumented!” -Tomorrow in Babylon Bee or USA Today?

    Patrick in SC says:
    April 15, 2021 at 3:05 am GMT • 2.3 hours ago(Edit-4591532) ↑
    The once idle thoughts of bugging out of this place become more concrete by the day.

    James J O’Meara says:
    April 15, 2021 at 3:11 am GMT • 2.2 hours ago(Edit-4591547) ↑
    @415 reasons
    Them or Us. And I’m OK with that. As long as it’s Us. (Or Them. I guess it depends how you read it).

    Anon[337] • Disclaimer says:
    April 15, 2021 at 3:12 am GMT • 2.2 hours ago • 200 Words(Edit-4591549) ↑
    The law should state some algorithmic way (maybe using AI!) where you feed in demographic and land use data into a computer and it spits out an immutable ranked list of places that need to have priority for multiunit housing, and how many feet it must be from the housing of the natives (closer than 20 feet, I’d say). Any completely objective system would be prioritizing Beverly Hills, Malibu, and rich Connecticut areas. Also, high rise apartments, co-ops, and condos need to be included somehow. Any vacated slot needs to go to a poor black family until equity is reached, residents have to actually sleep 183 nights a year in any property they claim to own, and for buildings that don’t have poor families within a year the state can offer increasingly ridiculously high buyouts for existing residents until enough bite and sell out. And in the meantime, covert the lobby into a unit for the poor.

    Supply and Demand says:
    April 15, 2021 at 3:23 am GMT • 2.0 hours ago(Edit-4591569) ↑
    The Democrats are at their most sane since 1930. I hope they will reign for a generation at least.

    • Replies: @anon
    Polistra says:
    April 15, 2021 at 3:44 am GMT • 1.7 hours ago(Edit-4591603) ↑
    Good God that woman is a bozo. Perfect for the ‘new’ USA.

    Charlotte says:
    April 15, 2021 at 4:11 am GMT • 1.2 hours ago • 100 Words(Edit-4591651) ↑
    So, multi family housing=more walkable neighborhoods/less sprawl, thus (theoretically) less climate change. The truth is, a goodly portion of post-sixties suburban sprawl comes from whites moving further and further out, to the most expensive suburban neighborhood they can afford, to escape increasing “diversity” in their neighborhood. So long as racial integration means more crime, those whites who can afford it will seek workarounds like buying expensive houses in new, uniformly expensive subdivisions that only middle class blacks can afford.

    Have the architects of these plans edited observations like that out of their consciousness? Or do they just hope the rest of America has done so?

    anon[103] • Disclaimer says:
    April 15, 2021 at 4:49 am GMT • 35 minutes ago(Edit-4591722) ↑
    @Supply and Demand

    Change that Matters says:
    April 15, 2021 at 4:51 am GMT • 33 minutes ago(Edit-4591728) ↑
    She makes a lot more sense if you turn down the sound and lip read.

  41. @Anon

    Yeah, a 65-year-old’s “property values” is my “can’t afford to buy a house”. In the area where I live, and where my family has lived for several centuries, housing is considerably more expensive in real terms than it was a generation ago.

    It might be time for you to colonize a new area. Or make more money.

    At some point you just need to build more housing.

    There’s plenty of room in the United States. New housing can be built without eliminating existing single-family zoning bylaws.

    Restricting development in the face of population growth is effectively a wealth transfer from the young to the old.

    Presumably, a sizable number of those olds have children and grandchildren. Assuming the house eventually sells, their progeny may inherit some (or all) of the proceeds. Alternately, the house itself can be passed down to a younger-generation member of the family.

    • Troll: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
  42. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Presumably, a sizable number of those olds have children and grandchildren. Assuming the house eventually sells, their progeny may inherit some (or all) of the proceeds. Alternately, the house itself can be passed down to a younger-generation member of the family.

    That will happen when those children are in their 60s and 70s.

    The older people of this country were buying homes in their 20s and 30s. The younger people have a much lower rate of home ownership at those age ranges today. That’s the problem.

  43. As part of his $2.3 trillion infrastructure plan

    Every time I hear about this non-infrastructure “infrastructure plan” (about once a day), it has another $hundred billion added to it. I guess by the time it comes out the other end of Congress it’s gonna be the … what, the $6.7 trillion “infrastructure” plan?

    The only stranger thing than how fast it grows is how determined the journoliars are to pretend it is not growing.

  44. anon[713] • Disclaimer says:

    The mayor’s father famously blamed 9/11 on the Jews, and got himself fired over it.

    What is true is that Israel was the root cause of 9/11.

    • Replies: @Nachum
  45. Polistra says:
    @Guy De Champlagne

    But older people retiring on the backs of younger people by pushing up property values is not “generational division”?

    Those younger people built this country, right? No wait, that was black people.

    Gonna have to get your story straight. What about 2006-12? You know, when house prices crashed? Does that mean younger people were on the backs of older people then? Why didn’t they take advantage of the lower prices then? Hmm, maybe young people need reparations. That’s what you’re driving at, isn’t it. Well why not–we’re throwing trillions around now.

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
  46. Polistra says:

    Immigrants are everywhere in the USA now. Along with the children of immigrants, they now number over 100 million people. Without them, we’d have a much better chance at a civilized society–sort of like we used to have.

    One gets the feeling you haven’t spent much time in the USA, not in recent decades anyway. Where do you live that you’re such an expert on things you know nothing about?

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    , @anon
    , @JMcG
  47. @Polistra

    No dummy, the number of immigrants in the USA is 47 million. Your “100 million” figure includes the children of illegal immigrants.

    And that doesn’t change the fact that all of these people cluster in their own little ethnic enclaves, where old stocker Americans generally do not live, especially if they are older.

    I grew up in a rural town in the great plains. If your experience is different, it is because you are one of the weird, aberrant white persons who live in a nonwhite enclave. The type of person this website disproportionately attracts.

    But what you don’t understand is that you are like a glitch in a video game, and the vast majority of white Americans aren’t like you. The vast majority of white Americans live in neighborhoods that are 75-95% white.

    Keep in mind this chart is only for metro areas, and doesn’t include rural areas where the majority of the white population lives (mostly in the great plains):

    ^ You are one of the truly weird and outlandish white Americans who ended up in a nonwhite enclave. The vast majority of white Americans did not share your glitchy, one-of-a-kind experience in life. Your inability or refusal to accept your remoteness and strangeness is annoying to the white majority, who are tired of your minoritarian-minutian ranting about immigrants.

    America is becoming more civilized — see the crime rate and terrorism rate drop:

    See also the stellar economic growth afforded by immigrants, and the supreme importance of their women (who you are more attracted to than native women).

    • Troll: Forbes, HammerJack
  48. Nachum says:

    It ain’t true just because you say it is.

    And in any event, the father wasn’t talking about that.

  49. ATBOTL says:

    The kind of high density, racially diverse housing being discussed here is like sterilization for young white people. Whites have children when they can afford a mostly white neighborhood with mostly white public schools.

    Nothing short of a white nationalist revolution that rolls back the demographics through racially based repatriation or legalizing racial segregation will pull the white birthrate back to replacement level.

  50. Captain Biden’s Alzheimerly gifts
    Mean the S.S. America drifts
    Round Charybdis so quickly
    I’m so dizzy I’m sickly
    And wish that my stomach were Swift’s.

    • Agree: ic1000
  51. Andrew M says:

    We’re in the middle of a pandemic, a disease spread via crowded indoor spaces. Higher density means smaller & more crowded indoor- spaces, ideal for spreading respiratory viruses.

    Think about stairwells and elevators; buses and trains; the shops, the gyms, everything is more tightly packed under higher density. Furthermore, the same spaces are turned over more frequently: city restaurants put time limits on tables to increase turnover.

    Given all that we now know about respiratory viruses, it’s no surprise that New York was hit hardest. It’ll be hit hardest next time too. Let’s not turn the entire country into New York.

    • Replies: @Alden
  52. anon[178] • Disclaimer says:

    Where do you live that you’re such an expert on things you know nothing about?

    Dude, that’s what trolls do. Plywood is just another troll, one of several that popped up in the last year or three.

  53. @JohnPlywood

    Your post is ironic, I hope. Incursions by white professionals into black neighborhoods proceeds painfully slowly, over decades, and thus always requires a life of postponing or avoiding children altogether and traveling outside the neighborhood for all activities and necessities. It also requires iron gates, German Shepherds, state-of-the-art security systems, and a schedule that revolves around what time the natives go to sleep and what time they wake up. Relatives lived in an ethnic Chicago neighborhood for more than a century, from its beginnings as an ethnic enclave (with Catholic basilica), to a gang ghetto, to a gentrified zone of professionals.

  54. Thoughts says:

    Tearing down single family homes and replacing them with 6 units filled with lower middle class whites is exactly what they did in Santa Monica

    And Santa Monica sucks other than a place to go shopping

    I spent many years walking up and down those sidewalks wishing there were more rich people in the world to reconvert those crap apartments to bungalows once again

  55. @JohnPlywood

    JohnPlywood, if you don’t get off this message board, I’m going to hack your IP address and darken your doorstep. GET. OFF. NOW.

  56. @Polistra

    Boomers didn’t build anything, they financialized and exported whatever wasn’t nailed down for quick money, often as middle managers for their tribal friends. Now they spend their elder years doting on Israel instead of their grandchildren.

    • Replies: @Grandpa
  57. Gee, I thought UN Agenda 2030 Sustainable Goal 11 was to move everybody into sustainable cities.

  58. Cortes says:

    Is probably the correct answer.

    On a walk through a once-beautiful village near where I grew up, I was shocked about five years ago to see that a wonderful 1920s house had been razed to the ground and the plot used to build a block of “upmarket” flats. Shortly thereafter another stunning house there was given the same treatment and a small field sprouted a crop of pitiful McMansions. The reason for the relaxation of zoning in the UK is, I suspect, that local government funding has shifted taxation from property valuations (rates) to capitation…come one, come all (unless you live next to Uncle Scrooge).

  59. Zoning seems to go way too far in many parts of the US come on to the extent that people have no stores within walking distance, and therefore they need at least 1 or 2 motor vehicles or even more motor vehicles per home so that people can get in and out or go to work or school.

    I can see there to some extent you want to reduce noisy traffic close to homes and where children are playing, but the US does seem to carry this to extremes.

    • Replies: @CapitalistRoader
  60. lavoisier says: • Website

    Blacks have destroyed property values throughout the United States. I saw it growing up in Chicago. The south side rapidly went from stable, low crime, mostly white neighborhoods to Third World conditions as the blacks moved in large numbers.

    This has been tried before, over and over again, and the same result happens.

    White people get screwed over, they lose their life savings, and they are called racists for wanting to escape the crime and the mayhem brought on by black neighbors.

    If we want to try this again for the fifty thousandth time move the Section 8 housing exclusively to the wealthiest neighborhoods in the big cities, preferably with the largest Jewish concentration. Instead of Berwyn move the section 8 housing to Kenilworth.

    These are the most desirable places to live and why discriminate against people of color? They only deserve the best. Let the wealthy liberals disproportionately responsible for this foolishness and who have imposed it on the rest of us live with the consequences of their belief systems for once.

    I would predict in short order this madness would stop.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  61. Alden says:
    @Andrew M

    I remember one reason all the city high rise office buildings sent everybody to work from home was the claim that covid hoax would spread in the crowded elevators, lobbies and cubicles. The schools are planning to have kids attend school only 2 or 3 days a week so they can spread out in classrooms and cafeteria.

    TPTB need to decide, if they want crowding, they need to end covid hoax. If they want covid, we’ll have to spread out.

  62. @No Recent Commenting History

    “I bought a house; its a 2 bedroom, but I think its up to me how many bedrooms are in it; don’t you? This bedroom has a oven in it. This bedroom is an AKA hallway.” Mitch Hedberg

  63. @Anon

    “At some point you just need to build more housing. Restricting development in the face of population growth is effectively a wealth transfer from the young to the old.”
    Spot on!
    This is especially the case where governments pursue ridiculously high, y. o. y, immigration policy.
    (In Aust’ government has imported btwn 100 – 200 K immigrants every year for 20-30 years — & this in a country of 25 MIL . (19.5 mil 20 years ago — which is, I believe, a 20% increase in 20 years?)
    Combine that with ludicrously (& eternally) low interest rates & you have a perfect recipe for massive housing warpage & dysfunction.
    Oh, & not to forget the ideological & all too real attacks on public housing since the 80’s — the 80’s for godsake; 40 years of public housing hate.
    Fact is — government, at all levels needs to use multiple strategies — both direct & indirect — to increase housing appropriate to various classes of people (families – with/out kids, singles, working, middle class etc).
    Housing, like food, clothing, may remain a profit centre for a few, but for the bulk, they are vital human rights/needs.
    Of course, I’m being ridiculously naive. I’m assuming government exists for ALL its citizen’s benefit, & not merely as the public face & tool of private elites….

  64. JMcG says:

    There’s a 90% chance this guy is a subcon.

  65. Sushipal says:

    Still on youtube, “Actual Justice Warrior” has an excellent video from 4 mos ago called Redlining Myths vs Reality. He goes over some seldom quoted stats about black home ownership.

  66. Steve,
    I think you missed the obvious (very rare for you) that the “redlined” areas more or less defined “affordable”. It couldn’t be financed, so it was lower cost location and construction. So, as you astutely note, today “affordable” isn’t a bug, it’s a feature to fend off gentrifies.

    In Pittsburgh, the neighborhood boundaries are pretty sharp. Homewood,
    had small dense “affordable” homes, mostly built for factory workers. This area ran down horribly during one of the “clearances” the viscous cycle of “affordable” attracting the poor and further depressing values. My grandfather lived there until the furnace in his home failed and abandoned the neighborhood.

    Neighboring Pt Breeze more the management class with a better housing stock.
    Pt Breeze is divided by Penn Avenue , and north Pt Breeze suffered almost as much as Homewood. South Pt Breeze was spared. The homes on North Pt Breeze were pretty run down many converted to appartments.,-79.9050165,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x8834edec790c7fd1:0xbe9c226f6f3a2c0e!8m2!3d40.4531516!4d-79.9028278?hl=nl

    But Google moved into the old Nabisco Plant. Guess which neighborhood is gentrifying.

  67. antibeast says:

    So Biden now wants to make it easier for ghetto Blacks to rape and kill Whites in the Suburbs. The USA is on its way to becoming a Third World country in addition to being a Banana Republic.

  68. anonymous[109] • Disclaimer says:

    Wow a homicide trend graph that ends 20 years ago. How helpful and informative! I’m sure there would be nothing to learn from one focusing on, say, the most recent decade.

  69. @unit472

    as well as generate lower property taxes

    This isn’t a true statement. The total amount of money generated from property taxes is not a function of the value of any particular piece of property. A taxing jurisdiction decides how much money it needs to function, then the tax rate is struck based on that. You are reversing cause and effect.

    • Replies: @c matt
    , @MarkinLA
  70. countenance says: • Website

    But eventually, affordable housing apartments for Section 8 renters, such as Michael Brown’s family, were built in Ferguson, with well-known results

    Those apartment farms lost 80% of their population in the four years after GENTILIVUS GIANTIVUS purloined his ultimate cigarillo. Bad news for wherever they went, but a reprieve for Ferguson itself.

    Back out those apartment farms, then Ferguson is almost entirely owner occupied, and split almost evenly between black and white, the whites being retirees and the blacks being working to middle class families.

  71. @Nachum

    The mayor’s father famously blamed 9/11 on the Jews, and got himself fired over it.

    Baraka père was Poet Laureate of New Jersey when this happened. There was no provision in the law creating the position that allowed for removal, so the position itself was abolished by Governor Jim McGreevey in July 2003. Why does the name Jim McGreevey sound familiar? Well he was forced to resign a year later for getting caught with a live boy, i.e. having an Israeli boyfriend on the side while he was married to a woman (his second wife). Perhaps this is why he was so sensitive to criticism of Israel.

    • Replies: @Nachum
  72. @Kimmelson

    Maybe Quid Pro Joe could build them economical Tiny Duck-blinds to live in?

  73. I want to commend the iSteve commentariat for pushing back on this one. As President Obama correctly said: You didn’t build that. Most people have the equity in their home purely through dumb luck, so I’m not going to shed any tears for people when their houses lose value.

    Typical boomer: Waaaah, my house dropped in value from $750,000 to $500,000.

    Meanwhile, they left out that they paid $150,000 for the house in the first place. The $750,000 value was merely on paper. The lack of affordable family formation is one of the things that is killing this country and its future, so if some brain-dead boomers have to lose some equity in order to help young people build their families, I’m literally not going to lose a wink of sleep over it. You have stolen enough from this country already, Boomer. Deal with it.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    , @anon
    , @CapitalistRoader
  74. I moved to an economically depressed rural area long ago. I don’t have to worry about anybody moving in, unless the work from home thing catches on.

  75. BB753 says:

    Steve, get out of California while you can.

  76. George says:

    What’s the Sailer strategy for for housing people?

  77. @Anonymous

    It would actually be hilarious if blacks move en masse out to the cheaply built, sterile bedroom communities and then we go and recolonize the cities. After all every urban neighborhood was built and maintained for decades by whites.; it’s time to revitalize the cities and make them respectable again.

  78. @JohnPlywood

    Those ethnic enclaves would be not be abandoned lots if they weren’t filled with immigrants, they would be used to house the native born citizens. In the last few decades these ethnic enclaves have ballooned to astonishing sizes. Pretty much all of Los Angeles is an ethnic enclave of one sort of another at this point. It’s not like the old days when big cities had a few blocks that was Chinatown. It’s the entire city now.

  79. @anon

    Believe me living in a rural area with other humans, and no ghetto primates is the wave of the future. I had all of the blacks I could stand after being school bussed into da hood for highschool.

  80. Forbes says:

    Lie back and think of equity…

    • LOL: RichardTaylor
  81. Aardvark says:

    Here’s a novel idea… why don’t we just pay to build these apartment buildings to U.S. standards in assorted Latin American countries and then people could stay where they are at?

    • LOL: photondancer
  82. Forbes says:

    This is how you get diversity…

    Newark is the second-most racially diverse city in New Jersey after Jersey City. From the 1950s to 1967, Newark’s non-Hispanic white population shrank from 363,000 to 158,000; its black population grew from 70,000 to 220,000. The percentage of non-Hispanic whites declined from 82.8% in 1950 to 11.6% by 2010.

    Reducing whites equals more diversity. But you knew that. Therefore, whites must be reduced. It’s Biden policy.

  83. JMcG says:

    This buys into the fallacy that owner-occupied housing is a rock solid, unquestionably good investment. Unless your hypothetical home buyer paid 150,000 in cash, he took a mortgage on the property. At historical interest rates, that would result in payments totaling more than twice the actual cost of the house. Add in taxes and insurance and the total could be closer to three times the price. The extremely low rates we’ve seen recently will likely prove to be an anomaly, and are themselves a cause of some of the price inflation.
    Then add in thirty years of maintenance and improvement to the house. A kitchen, a couple of bathroom remodels, a roof or two, a driveway or two; it doesn’t take long to run up 100,000 over thirty years time. So your 150,000 house has now cost you 400,00o over a thirty year period:
    The real cause of the housing run up is the fact that we’ve gone from 220 million people in 1980 to probably 350 million now. My opinion is that the US population is presently undercounted.
    I have four kids and no idea what they’ll do when they enter the housing market in a few years.

  84. @JohnPlywood

    No, it won’t be unpleassnt to live there, hence why people are colonizing black neighborhoods now.

    Where is this? You’re usually good on specifics.

    In the instances where people are “colonizing black neighborhoods” these are places that were once white, then became black but not long enough to ruin the excellent housing stock, such as the periphery of the interior core of Brooklyn. But the interior core is still heavily black (not just ADOS but West Africans, Caribbeans, Haitians.)

    Re Steve’s main point, I couldn’t agree more but probably the contracts will go to Latino contractors and builders. The only people who won’t benefit will be ADOS blacks, as usual.

  85. @JohnPlywood

    I grew up in a rural town in the great plains. If your experience is different, it is because you are one of the weird, aberrant white persons who live in a nonwhite enclave.

    The number of logical flaws you can cram into a single sentence is truly breathtaking.

    Just one of many examples. I wonder how much of what you write, you truly believe?

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
  86. c matt says:

    The total amount of money generated from property taxes is not a function of the value of any particular piece of property

    Of course it is in some jurisdictions. Property taxes are a function of the rate and the value to which the rate is applied. Some jurisdictions decide how much it needs – it then manipulates the tax rate or the property value or both. In most instances, where allowed it manipulates the value because the politicians can then say “I never raised your property tax rate” and can “blame” the increase in property value (and hence, property taxes) on the “market forces” over which it has no control. Property taxes is one way California is superior to Texas. Texas has an annual “valuation” in which property values are manipulated to increase taxes (but not the rate) so the pols can claim they did not “increase your tax rate.” For all its other faults, my understanding is California limits the amount of manipulation of values to increase taxes by freezing the value at the price you paid for the property. That way, if they want to increase taxes, a politician has to go before the voters and fess up to increasing the rate.

  87. Nachum says:

    Yes, I remembered the details; I was just speaking in shorthand. The freaky way in which the story tied back to Israel had temporarily slipped my mind, but I’m not sure the outcome would have been any different had the boyfriend not been Israeli.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  88. @Kimmelson

    Too many words, Steve. It’s very simple: people need housing in order to live.

    But they don’t need it in America. They can stay where they are.

  89. MarkinLA says:

    Depends on where you are at. In California, property taxes are limited to 1% of purchase price plus any bonded indebtedness. They can only rise by 2% a year.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  90. MarkinLA says:
    @Hi There

    High density housing creates problems for the cities as well as the existing residents. Many projects won’t get done when cities tack on fees for upgrades to the roads, parks, and schools in the surrounding areas. Property taxes may pay for some of it but this isn’t always the case.

    • Replies: @Hi There
  91. MarkinLA says:

    Back in the illegal alien and “refugee” deluge in the late 80s and early 90s it was not uncommon for somebody to buy an extremely distressed property in the shit areas of San Fernando and Pacoima. These old beat-up 2 bedroom houses sold very cheaply. They would have about 25 illegals living there paying about 100-150 dollars a month sleeping on the floor for a house that had a mortgage of no more than 800 dollars a month. In 5 years the house was virtually unlivable but completely paid off.

  92. anon[173] • Disclaimer says:

    Typical boomer: Waaaah, my house dropped in value from $750,000 to $500,000.
    Meanwhile, they left out that they paid $150,000 for the house in the first place.

    Right, plus the US dollar is not subject to inflation / depreciation in any way. So 1$ in the Current Year buys the exact same amount of land, lumber, gasoline, etc. as it did in 1980, amirite?

    Dude, if the market value of a house triples, while cost of living in that house also triples is there any gain in real terms? What if the cost of living increases faster than the market value of the house, is there any real gain?


    Meta: There would be plenty of adequate housing in the US if not for the elite push to import hundreds of millions of more low end laborer-consumers. But, oh, well, population replacement doesn’t happen by itself! One Billion Americans, here we come! Should be great!

  93. anarchyst says:

    I grew up in Detroit and can relate to the “changes” that occurred during my residency.
    Blacks WERE a major problem in 1960s and beyond Detroit.
    I was able to keep up my property with no difficulty, painting the house (outside) on a regular basis, mowing the lawn and keeping the shrubbery trimmed-normal maintenance for any homeowner.
    Contrast my maintenance efforts and results with my black “neighbors” who did not keep up their property. You see, in the 1960s HUD had “special programs” to move blacks into single-family housing, without requiring these blacks to have any “skin in the game”.
    Of course, being white, I did not qualify for any of these programs.
    The liberal “urban studies” folks at Wayne State University has always made excuses for blacks and their inability and lack of “upkeep” (normal everyday maintenance) on their homes. Their main excuse was that “the homes were old”…never blaming the black residents themselves.
    On almost every block, whites (mostly elderly Polish) who could not afford to move STILL kept up their homes–freshly cut grass, well-maintained exteriors, etc. despite their homes being just as “old” as those owned by blacks. No matter where you went in Detroit, one could always tell where whites lived. Neatly manicured lawns and well-kept-up houses were the norm.
    I finally left Detroit after a number of burglaries and little or no police response. The police KNEW who the criminals were but did nothing about it. You see, blacks were “oppressed” and were “untouchable”.
    Another situation was the “code enforcement” harassment that us whites endured. We always used the city-supplied trash containers (one for every two residences). Our black “neighbors” were too lazy to put their trash in the containers, strewing their trash throughout the alleys. Guess who got repeatedly ticketed for “improperly disposed of trash”? It wasn’t the blacks who improperly disposed of their trash–it was us whites. It was as if they (the black-run city government) wanted us to move…
    No, the old liberal excuses that poverty was instrumental in the destruction of Detroit is totally false.
    All one has to do is ask the party (liquor) store owners why they put up with the likes of blacks. The Detroit “ghetto” was (and is still) quite a “gold mine” for businesses that sell liquor, lottery tickets and junk food.
    I grew up in Detroit and personally witnessed the marginalization of whites along with the destruction by blacks.
    It’s CULTURE, not “poverty”.
    The “elites” need to stop making excuses for black culture and black aberrant behavior.
    Now if biden wants to move blacks into the Hamptons, Hyannis Port, Bloomfield Hills, Beverly Hills, Chevy Chase or other upscale areas, I have no problem with that. Let the “hoi polloi” experience what the rest of us whites have been putting up for decades…

    • Replies: @Polistra
  94. anarchyst says:

    I grew up in Detroit, and personally witnessed the destruction of a once-great city. There are a number of reasons for Detroit’s decline that have never been explored or discussed.
    1. “Blockbusting” by greedy real estate agents. Real estate agents would send out postcards with the following: “A new family is moving into your neighborhood. If you want to sell your house, please call me at xxx-xxxx”. A “new family” was a euphemism for black families, and was used to “encourage” whites to sell their homes.
    2. HUD (Housing and Urban Development) speculators and real estate hustlers conspired to “buy up” and raze the best houses on every block, in certain sections of the city. Quite often, “shacks” were left standing while decent housing was purchased by HUD and razed. This was done purposely to depress property values, to make it easier for speculators to purchase properties at “bargain basement” prices.
    I realize that items 1 and 2 counteract each other and are at cross purposes, but they were a reality in 1960s Detroit.
    3. The 1967 riots did much to push whites out of Detroit. A little-known aspect of the Detroit riots was the application of spray-painted words on the exteriors of black-owned businesses. The words “soul brother” was spray-painted on businesses owned by blacks so that the “angels of death” (actually rioters) would spare them from destruction. Whole business districts around the city were destroyed, never to recover.
    4. The election of Coleman Alexander Young, Detroit’s first black mayor, who was overtly racist to Detroit’s white citizens while “getting along just fine” with the “movers and shakers” (big business people) of the day (as long as the campaign contributions kept coming in)….
    5. The abolition of the STRESS (Stop The Robberies, Enjoy Safe Streets) program. This anti-criminal program was put in by mayor Young’s predecessor and was quite successful in “cleaning up the streets” of criminals. In this program, police officers would disguise themselves as vulnerable old people and walk through neighborhoods as “decoys”. Predatory criminals would attempt to rob these elderly citizens and quite often, were dispatched to “the great hereafter”. One of Young’s campaign promises was the abolition of the STRESS program as too many of “his people” were being eliminated. Upon the election of Young, the program was disbanded.
    These are 5 reasons for this once-great city’s demise.

    • Agree: lavoisier
  95. The other would restore “disparate impact,” a decades-old legal standard that outlaws discriminatory lending and renting practices.

    Clever of them to insert this lie into the article. Probably part of a coordinated effort to deflect criticism of the policy. They are trying get people to equate criticism of disparate impact with support for racial discrimination, when disparate impact in practice is itself a type of explicit racial discrimination that its critics oppose on principle.

  96. @Bill P

    Is there such a thing as a young fart ?

  97. Polistra says:

    Since you’re clearly starting at zero, not to mention 25 years ago, here’s some recent intelligence to get you started. You’ve nowhere to go but up!


    PS: If you bothered to read, you’d have encountered “Along with the children of immigrants”

  98. If I were a hedge fund I’d be buying up suburban houses in good locations to tear them down and create multi-unit rentals.

    The only thing stopping me before would have been the exclusionary zoning.

    I know a man who owns a duplex in a neighborhood of single family homes. The demand for his rental is off the charts. Everyone wants to live in a nice neighborhood, rather than an area of transitional apartments.

  99. @Jonathan Mason

    The United States has 92 people per square mile. France is three times more dense, Germany six times.

    We can afford to spread out in the USA.

  100. Polistra says:

    You are very right: It’s not poverty; it’s not race. It’s CULTURE.

    Another situation was the “code enforcement” harassment that us whites endured.

    When I lived in a county with a substantial latino component, they had their own code enforcement system. Everything was handled in Spanish, and rather than meet code all they had to do was pay off the inspectors and examiners. Just like in the old country!

    Blacks weren’t such an issue there since they never bothered with permits in the first place. And of course the law isn’t enforced upon black people, except in rare instances which somehow always make international headlines.

  101. @ScarletNumber

    Are there brain dead Millenials and X’rs too? Or just Boomers?

  102. @HammerJack

    There isn’t a logical flaw in that sentence.

    Most white people grew up in white areas, where all they ever saw was white people. Places like the great plains, ths rural midwest, New England, the mountain west, and the pacific northwest. This is where the vast majority of white people live in this country.

    You are weird. You are one of the castaway white souls who ended up in an area with a lot of nonwhites. Probably one with a humid sub-tropical climate. Exactly how and why you ended up there is unknowable to me, but I suspect it has something to do with a unusual personal preference for low taxes and low rent, and also for proximity to mass commerce. All of which could indicate a genetic profile that differs from that of the white majority; perhaps reflecting more Neolithic Farmer DNA (possibly in the form of a recent Jewish or Sicillian ancestor). Another theory is that you are a female, or under the control of a female.

    Whoever you are, you are not normal. There’s a reason why you’re always complaining about the white majority’s refusal to support your anti-nonwhite, Mises Institute dogma. It’s because we do not care about it and we are annoyed by your constant agitating for causes we do not care about.

    I’ll post the chart again. Even in urban metropolitan areas, white neighborhoods are 71% white.

    ^ Now consider that the majority of white people don’t even live in metro areas but in rural counties that are 90-99% white.

    If you aren’t surrounded by white people, you are weird and have personal issues.
    Us normal whites have spent most of our lives living in neighborhoods where we didn’t see nonwhites for extended periods of time. And most of those nonwhites we saw were not problematic. Your experience in life wasn’t mainstream.

    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
  103. The majority restrictive land use is IN CITIES . Esp. those cities controlled by marxists; permits, unions, zoning, rent controls, rampant crime – encouraged by the marxists apparently, and so on. Fix your own damn problems, azzoles.

    And imagine! Summer temperatures are hotter in the asphalt city jungles than in areas with greenery!

    Who knew?

    And the solution of course is to BRING THE CITY TO THE SUBURBS?

  104. urban planners [complete social’zts] Gerritt Knapp and Nicholas Finio, of UMD wrote: A legitimate reason for regulating density is to assure that the density of the residential environment is appropriate for the existing public infrastructure

    Yes, that’s the policy, but it’s a crap reason. Blame it on the schools.

    The existing, neighborhood public school has a “limited” capacity. The school board doesn’t want to go through the politically risky business of first using eminent domain to acquire a property for a new school nearby, and then the having to pass another $100M bond issue (its n-th in ten years) to build one.

    The prohibition again private property owners to develop their own, real property: Yet another hidden cost of public education.

  105. ricpic says:

    This is the bitter truth. Let NO NEIGHBORHOOD BE SAFE is endgame for the Left.

  106. The bill has not been written yet…,

    How much you wanna bet?

  107. Grandpa says:

    good thing for you, youngster, that “boomers fuck”; or you wouldn’t be here. Might be good to step back and see that every generation has its contributors, and those that… fuck shit up. I learn from my children and grandchildren, and they learn from me. You seem from your comment, to be part of the problem rather than the solution. Grow up.

  108. Grandpa says:
    @Supply and Demand

    Wow! Thanks! I was not aware Obama had any parrots left! “Boomers didn’t build anything”. “Now they spend their elder years doting on Israel instead of their grandchildren.”
    Perhaps congratulations are in order, those are the two most incredibly ignorant things I have ever read – online or anywhere. Your parents must be proud! And not boomers – at least not hard working ones, in any case. And if they were hard working, self reliant, and successful; perhaps in your youth you didn’t pay attention to what they sacrificed to raise you…
    or, is your anger because they expected you to work and be diligent as they were – rather than just hand you a life of ease?
    Yes, I’m a boomer; and I’ve built quite a bit; through hard work. I’m the son of a working mom, who raised three children, and took care of my alcoholic father. Her work ethic was passed down to the three of us, and from me to my seven successful, hard working grandchildren – who get doted on by their proud Grandpa – who doesn’t think of Isreal at all.

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
  109. Hi There says:

    High density housing generally lowers the number of miles traveled per person. It increases parking costs and such, but tends to reduce commute times and traffic congestion.

    High density housing will definitely have both up sides and down sides. You can’t please everyone. But you can let people vote with their wallets and try to please the most people.

  110. @Grandpa

    Few things gramps:

    1. My parents are Silents. It’s worth noting that the oldest millennials are on the other side of 40 now.

    2. I got my life of leisure (15 hour work-week, Chinese Communist Party paid research sabbaticals, etc.) by stealing research from my graduate program in America and delivering them to a Confucius Institute in return for a tenured University post in Northeastern China.

    3. I’ve made multiple trips to US company’s production lines in China due to my background in linguistics and research into AI. The most vigorous proponents of the exportation of American working-class jobs are boomers to a man. They are also all-too-eager to share stories from their yuppie days when they spent their late 20s and 30s living like Kings in Shanghai, Beijing, and Hong Kong during the halcyon days of the Deng regime. They did this often after graduating debt-free from MBA programs that cost $200/year.

    4. Did you vote for Donald Trump in 2016 or 2020? If so, you were doting on Israel instead of your grandchildren. They will be the ones to suffer due to your poor political choices.

  111. Malibu says:

    Give a black man a city… you know the rest.

  112. tired dog says:

    Biden to eliminate suburbs…

    Little new under the sun. The Mt. Laurel ruling out of Jersey set the stage for mandating every town, hamlet, whatever, provide its fair share of ‘low income’ housing.

    It’s just taken until now for the final nails in coffins.

  113. @Nachum

    Sorry, I wasn’t writing to correct you; rather I was filling in the details for those who didn’t know them.

    • Thanks: Nachum
  114. @MarkinLA

    Yes, but it still isn’t a function of the current value of your home.

  115. Raller says:

    “Newark is 12 miles from Wall Street. It’s mayor, the son of 1960s black radical poet Leroi Jones, is intent on making sure that the descendants of Philip Roth Era Newark don’t gentrify the place.”

    I think the motivation here is much more pecuniary than anything else. Ras Baraka has been a thoroughly pragmatic mayor despite his pedigree and Newark has bucked the 2015 murder wave that has afflicted so many cities (though it has not been unaffected–through the first half of 2020 the murder numbers were looking truly fantastic before a *mysterious* jump in the second half of the year that still led to a rate fairly similar to a good 2019).

    In general, black fears of gentrification have a lot to do with the perceived desirability of the city, rather than the exact demographic trends and economic potential of the area 50 years from now. New Orleans, for example, has a reputation as a cool cultural hub meaning that its black residents are paranoid that white people will *want* to come back unless something is done to stop them (even though the actual statistics don’t show this happening).

    By contrast, even though it had plenty of nice areas, Newark has always been kind of a dumpy industrial place. While it might have some mystique among educated people born from the 40s to the 60s for whom Philip Roth is a Big Deal, there isn’t all that much else.* When it comes to proximity to NYC, Newark is separated from NYC by not just one, but two significant bodies of water (the Hudson and then Newark Bay/the Meadowlands) meaning that it doesn’t really feel very close. Hudson County has plenty of areas that are far easier to gentrify.

    And, the black elite in Newark wouldn’t mind a few woke white liberals to push back against the large Hispanic population.

  116. @Guy De Champlagne

    But older people retiring on the backs of younger people by pushing up property values is not “generational division”? It’s like “class war” that only the poor are guilty of because it only counts when the wrong side does it.

    Guy, you should find an older mentor. It never hurts to have exposure to more opinions, experience and so on.

    • Replies: @Kibernetika
  117. @Kibernetika

    And no offense, but I’m friggin’ busy so look first to your older family.

  118. @JohnPlywood

    You’re welcome to have all the immigrants who have moved here to the PNW, boyo.

    King County is fast losing its whiteness, boyo. That must be the glitch in the system.

    Neighborhood’s pretty white, though, that checks out. Not that they wouldn’t like to change that. The students sure seem different.

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