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From Joe Biden’s town hall:

STEPHANOPOULOS: I want to get one more question this segment and it comes from Mieke Haeck. She’s from state college Pennsylvania. This is your first presidential election that you’re voting.

MIEKE HAECK: It is.

BIDEN: Hi, Mieke, how are you?

HAECK: I’m good, thank you. I’m the proud mom of two girls, 8 and 10. My youngest daughter is transgender. The Trump administration has attacked the rights of transgender people, banning them from military service, weakening non discrimination protections and even removing the word transgender from some government websites.

How will you as president reverse this dangerous and discriminatory agenda and insure that the lives and rights of LGBTQ people are protected under U.S. law?

BIDEN: I will flat out just change the law. Every — eliminate those executive orders, number one. You may recall I’m the guy who said — I was raised by a man who I remember I was being dropped off, my — my dad was a high school educated, well read man who was a really decent guy.

And I was being dropped off to get an application in the center of our city; Wilmington, Delaware, the corporate capital of the world at the time. And these two men, I’m getting out to get an application to be a lifeguard in the African American community because there was a big swimming pool complex.

And these two men, well dressed, leaned up and hugged one another and kissed one another. And I’m getting out of the car at the light and I turn to my dad. My dad looked at me and said Joey, it’s simple. They love each other.

The idea that an 8-year-old child or a 10-year-old child decides, you know I decided I want to be transgender. That’s what I think I’d like to be. It would make my life a lot easier. There should be zero discrimination.

And what’s happening is too many transgender women of color are being murdered. They’re being murdered. And I think it’s up now to 17, don’t hold me to that number. But it’s — it’s higher now?

HAECK: Yes.

BIDEN: And that’s just this year. And so I promise you there is no reason to suggest that there should be any right denied your daughter or daughters, whichever one or two …

HAECK: One.

BIDEN: … one, your daughter — that your other daughter has a right to be and do. None, zero. And by the way, my son Bo, passed away; he was the attorney general in the state of Delaware. He was the guy who got the first transgender passed in the state of Delaware and because of a young man who became a woman who worked for him in the attorney general offices.

STEPHANOPOULOS: We’ve got one more segment coming up. Thank you.

BIDEN: And I’m proud of that.

A big question is whether Biden has the strength of character to resist the Woke zeitgeist. This year, in his enthusiasm for the New Nuttiness — e.g., his announcement in Kenosha that a black man had invented the light bulb rather than Thomas Edison — he often seems like a naive old lady whose favorite teenage granddaughter has been staying with her and suddenly the old lady totally believes all the new things she is hearing from her beloved grandchild about transgender light bulbs that she learned on Instagram.

I’d feel more reassured if I could tell that Joe is really a cynical bastard who is just saying zany things for cynical reasons, but I have the sinking feeling that Joe is Joe’s own best audience: after he says something, he seems persuaded of the rightness of whatever just came out of his mouth.

 
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  1. Anon[421] • Disclaimer says:

    “ And I’m getting out of the car at the light and I turn to my dad. My dad looked at me and said Joey, it’s simple. They love each other.”

    I bet he’s lying here.

  2. Rob McX says:

    There Should be No Discrimination Against 8-Years-Olds Who Decide They Are Transgender

    I agree with that. But there should be discrimination against parents who mess with their children’s heads and use them as virtue-signalling fodder. Like having their children taken away and raised in a safe environment.

  3. Lol Steve is such a power groupie. If Joe Biden were some black female writer at the Cleveland plains dealer he’d have no problem point out how lacking in character and laughable a character he is. Biden has never once demonstrated an ounce of character.

  4. Jack d says:

    Resist it? He is driving it.

    Note that Biden does not speak in complete sentences.

    • Replies: @Charles St. Charles
  5. Barnard says:

    No it isn’t a question. Joe Biden thinks he is going down in history as the man who ushered in the glorious age of woke rule as the arc of history continued to bend toward justice. He is so full of himself he won’t see it coming when they remove him from office under the 25th Amendment. He isn’t much of a mystery.

    • Agree: fish
    • Replies: @haha
  6. black sea says:

    My dad looked at me and said “Joey, it’s simple. You like movies about gladiators, don’t you? Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?”

  7. 22pp22 says:

    America is a strange place. Worrying about transgender rights for eight-year-olds????!!!!????

    Surely the Burisma fiasco should be the end of Joe Biden. This is real. Not even the Dems are denying it. Brett Kavanaugh was crucified over what he may or may not have done at a drunken teenage party some time during in the Upper Palaeolithic. It was a circus. Now that a real scandal breaks, all I hear is crickets.

    Just when I thought things couldn’t get any weirder.

    • Thanks: Anonymousse
    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    , @Corn
    , @JR Ewing
    , @Bill
  8. “And what’s happening is too many transgender women of color are being murdered. They’re being murdered.”

    By who, Joe? I see the object of both sentences. Who are the subjects?

  9. Roger says:

    A lot of expectations are being created for Pres. Biden. There is no way that he will be able to make the woke leftists happy.

    • Agree: Lace
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Forbes
  10. Elizabeth Warren jumped the shark when she gushed crazily over a 9-year-old transgender. I don’t think America is sufficiently decadent yet to go for this stuff.

    Elizabeth Warren has vowed to get help from a nine-year-old transgender boy in picking her secretary of education.

    The Democratic presidential hopeful told supporters in Iowa that she would ask Jacob, a nine-year-old transgender boy who she met at an LGBT+ event, to vet her picks for the cabinet role.

    Speaking at an event in Cedar Rapids this week, she said: “For my secretary of education, number one it has to be someone who has taught in a public school.

    “Number two, a young trans person asked [me] about a welcoming community… I’m going to have a secretary of education that this young trans person interviews on my behalf, and only if this person believes that our secretary or education nominee is absolutely committed to creating a welcoming environment, a safe environment, and a full educational curriculum for everyone will that person actually be advanced to be secretary of education.”

  11. @Jack d

    Note that Biden does not speak in complete sentences.

    That is some genuine gibberish there. And the Dad story is a lie.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Alfa158
  12. @Rob McX

    Of course, 8-year-olds don’t “decide” anything of substance in this society — by design. We don’t let them sign binding contracts; they can’t drive until 16 in most states; can’t vote until 18; even the “age of consent” is still a lot older than eight in all states (despite NAMBLA’s worst efforts).

    The Joe Biden of the 1970’s and 1980’s, and even of the 1990’s, would have found the notion of an 8-year-old “deciding” to change genders to be ridiculous. (“C’mon, man, he’s just a little boy! How does he know what he wants from one day to the next? My kid wanted to be an astronaut last week; this week he wants to go into the oil and gas business. Kids say the darndest things!”)

    That Biden said this in Pennsylvania, a state still hotly contested, means either that (1) his aides have told him internal polling has him way up in the state, so he has nothing to lose by throwing a bone to the state’s Director of Public Health, or (2) he’s completely lost it.

    Michael Scott, indeed.

    • Agree: El Dato
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Ron Mexico
    , @Ragno
  13. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    Biden’s story about what his dad told him is probably a lie. He makes things up and lies reflexively about just anything and everything. Just more BS. The man is sick.

  14. @Gary in Gramercy

    My kid wanted to be an astronaut last week; this week he wants to go into the oil and gas business.

    With Dick Assman?

  15. @Harry Baldwin

    Elizabeth Warren has vowed to get help from a nine-year-old transgender boy in picking her secretary of education.

    We’ve sure come a long way from Grace Bedell and Old Abe’s beard.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Rob McX
  16. There’s something about this answer that suggests to me that Joe had been tipped off in advance that a question like this would be coming.

  17. Not discriminating means you’re indiscriminate.

    Aww, look at you, with your old-fashioned dictionary definitions and logic – it’s so quaint!

  18. Alfa158 says:
    @Charles St. Charles

    The transcript of his answer reads as if he was stumbling to cook up on the spot a heart warning anecdote. The story about two homosexual men doesn’t really have a strong relationship to transexuals, not to mention Joe trying to work his old nemesis Cornpop into the story, as if he is worried he doesn’t have the black vote already locked up.
    It shows he is not too mentally gone to be able to think on his feet, but gone enough to stumble over them while doing so.

    • Replies: @J
    , @Dieter Kief
  19. Lot says:
    @Anon

    Lying? No way!

    What’s implausible about men making out in Wilmington Delaware in public, during business hours, circa 1959, and an Irish Catholic car dealer watching and noting his warm approval of homosexuality to his teenage son?

  20. Mieke Haeck is the wife of Ezra Nanes, the Democratic Party contender for Pennsylvania State Senate District 34 in 2018. He lost.

    According to Nanes, he decided to run for State Senate because he and his wife, Mieke, felt strongly about the issues and the tone of politics.”

    Just another random audience member with a random question for Honest Joe.

    [He works for AccuWeather. She’s a physical therapist.]

    • Replies: @Beavertales
  21. Anonymous[404] • Disclaimer says:

    Prediction: Biden will definitely lose to Trump.

    Here are the reasons why (nothing to do with polls or issues):

    1. USA political culture rarely generates two unprecedented POTUS election results in a row. Trump 2016 was unprecedented in many ways. Biden 2020 would be equally unprecedented. Therefore Biden unlikely to happen this cycle.

    2. 2016 Trump just set the record for oldest potus ever inaugurated. Today Biden is 7 years older than 2016 Trump and not in good health.

    3. If elected Biden would’ve spent the most years in the senate by far prior to being potus. There are good reasons long term senators never become potus: baggage and corruption.

    4. Former senators running for potus struggle unless their opponent is also from the congress. Biden would have a much better chance against another DC swamp creature.

    5. Successful challengers generally need an incumbent potus to be hamstrung by a bad economy. This weird economy is bad in all the wrong places for Biden: the blue states. The red state economies are overall decent and the purple battleground state economies are overall good enough.

    6. Biden loses the vitality comparison badly.

    7. Biden loses the charisma comparison.

    8. Biden loses the superficial comparisons: age, height and hair. This stuff matters in American elections.

    Conclusion: hindsight will show that Biden needed to smash many important long term precedents in order to become POTUS and therefore success was highly unlikely in 2020.

    Biden in order to win: needed to be significantly younger; needed to be a lot healthier; needed to have much shorter career history in the senate; needed to run against an opponent from congress not an outsider; needed to run against an incumbent potus only if the economy was genuinely bad.

    Sorry the issue is not that Trump is a big winner but that Biden is a big loser according to key historical precedents.

    I would be interested in someone posting reasons why Trump is on the wrong side of historical precedents in 2020. I’m not a big Trump fan and I don’t see it apart from his age.

    Usually for incumbents the two key metrics are the domestic economy and foreign wars. Trump is (just barely) good enough on both counts to avoid losing to an average opponent.
    Biden is a below average opponent…

    Although personally outraged by issues like transgendered children I realized a while ago that the issues don’t really matter to the great blob of voters. Biden goes down on historical precedents in 2020.

  22. syonredux says:

    Maybe Joe’s a fan of kid drag queen Desmond…..

  23. Thomas says:
    @Anon

    Biden was born in 1942. If two men had been canoodling in front of children in broad daylight in a public place at any point in his minority, they’d be lucky if they only got arrested.

    • Agree: ScarletNumber, Hibernian
  24. “My dad, Neil Kinnock, turned to me and said….”

    • Thanks: Lot, kaganovitch
    • LOL: Mr. Anon
  25. anon[249] • Disclaimer says:

    Shoulda asked if 8 yo kids should be free to choose whoever they want for sex partners. Cause rights, you know.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  26. e.272 says:

    Biden is not a moderate Democrat. He is a D who echoes the current D position. He is a party man, where party goes, Joe goes.

    I remember seeing him on David Brinkley’s “This Week” back in the 80s. Like Chucky Schumer, he couldn’t resist being on camera. Whatever was the popular D position for the week, he would spout it out like he sort of memorized the talking points before hand. He made a mess of his explanation, even then.

    I liked the way Brinkley would just let Joe talk himself into knots, without interruptions. Brinkley didn’t try to lead or argue with the guest pols. Does any journalist do that now?

    Anyway, on the subject of an 8 yo specifying her gender identity: we live in a world with far fewer children per capita than we have been accustomed to. There are many adults now who have almost no interaction with children. To them, that a child could make a serious assertion that she is transgender, seems plausible, even if rare. It’s not, unless there’s something else wrong with child or the parent.

    Douglas Murray makes a solid case in his book, “The Madness of Crowds”, that we do not know what this trangenderism phemonon is about and no one in power or academa seems to care enough to examine it. As Steve as already documented, it’s a civil rights movement, and who’s against civil rights?

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  27. Anonymous[304] • Disclaimer says:

    “And what’s happening is too many transgender women of color are being murdered. They’re being murdered.”

    How many is “too many” and how many is just enough?

    • Replies: @e.272
  28. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anon

    And these two men, well dressed, leaned up and hugged one another and kissed one another. And I’m getting out of the car at the light and I turn to my dad. My dad looked at me and said Joey, it’s simple. They love each other.

    What bulls**t. If that event even happened at all (and given Biden’s history as a liar, there’s no reason to think it did), Biden’s father undoubtedly said to teenaged Joe “They’re fags. They suck each other’s c**ks. Stay the Hell away from people like that.”

    In fact, if teemaged Beau or Hunter Biden had seen something like that, Joe himself would have told them “They’re fags. They suck each other’s c**ks. Stay the Hell away from people like that.”

    • Replies: @Deckin
  29. J says:
    @Alfa158

    I wonder what the Chinese, Russian, German intelligence analysts make of this incredible dialogue.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  30. Mr. Anon says:

    This transgenderism stuff is evil. Simply pure evil. Women who think that their pre-teen boys are really girls, or vice-versa, are guilty of child abuse. And they themselves – at best – have Muenchausen-by-Proxy Syndrome. For Biden to sign on to this vile degeneracy is just despicable. Utterly despicable.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    , @Anon
  31. Biden’s a shameless liar.

    ‘…And these two men, I’m getting out to get an application to be a lifeguard in the African American community because there was a big swimming pool complex.

    ‘And these two men, well dressed, leaned up and hugged one another and kissed one another. And I’m getting out of the car at the light and I turn to my dad. My dad looked at me and said Joey, it’s simple. They love each other…’

    That would have been 1958…1960?

    That did not happen.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  32. Mr. Anon says:
    @Roger

    A lot of expectations are being created for Pres. Biden. There is no way that he will be able to make the woke leftists happy.

    He won’t have to. Nancy Polygrip and her commission will invoke the 25th amendment to send Dribbling Old Joe back to Delaware with his sippy-cup and Depends, and acclaim Kamala R as the new Queen.

  33. Daniel H says:

    And I was being dropped off to get an application in the center of our city; Wilmington, Delaware, the corporate capital of the world at the time………….

  34. “My dad looked at me and said, Joey, it’s simple. That man loves that sheep. And the sheep loves him back”

  35. Cortes says:
    @Lot

    Is that from a new episode of House, MD?

  36. There is no way Joseph Biden’s father, a Catholic born in 1915, held gays in anything but violent, revolting disgust.

    There is no way Joe Biden, suffering from rapidly advancing and profound memory lost, can remember something that happened at least 60 years ago.

    Its quite obvious someone is telling him to “remember” these events in the form of scripts. I wonder if that person would tell a President Biden what to “remember,” too. I wonder what kind of “scripts” a president biden would be given.

  37. @black sea

    How long until that movie doesn’t get shown?

    • Replies: @Rob McX
  38. nebulafox says:

    Does anybody here wish to live with the permanent consequences of what they might have decided at 8 years old-especially if they got unlucky in the teacher/parent lottery? If an 18 year old wants to live as Helen rather than Hank, fine, that’s their business. An *8 year old* is a different matter. In what time period in history has an 8 year old, all on his or her own made decisions like this, free of any adult influence? Let’s not be delusional, these kids are being pushed by their parents who want a daughter instead.

    https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/25/texas-court-gives-7-year-old-boy-a-reprieve-from-transgender-treatments/

    You better believe this kind of stuff is going to be looked at by our grandchildren with the same kind of abhorrence that we look upon the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment.

  39. e.272 says:
    @Anonymous

    “I’m the proud mom of two girls, 8 and 10. My youngest daughter is transgender.”

    On re-read, I am not clear on this. Is mom saying that she gave birth to a girl and boy, and the younger one is not a boy anymore? Now she has two daughters. Or is she saying that she gave birth to two girls and the younger one is now a boy? I assumed the latter the first time, but I’m not sure now.

    • Agree: Cortes
    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    , @Hugo Silva
  40. Joe’s story about the two gay men is obviously false. That’s not the problem though. There is a deeper societal problem here.

    Joe could have said something like: “I grew up in a world where gays and trans people faced serious discrimination. I also discriminated against gays. But over time, many brave people pushed to end discrimination against gays and I realized that my old beliefs weren’t right.” That would be both truthful and admirable.

    But we live in a society where, if you, at any point in the past, deviated even slightly from the orthodoxy of this second, you are forever outcast and shamed. So Joe has to make up a crazy story. The problem isn’t politicians telling fibs. The problem is that our society is becoming Stalinist because of SJW ideology.

    • Agree: martin_2
    • LOL: 3g4me
  41. @22pp22

    Worrying about transgender rights for eight-year-olds????!!!!????

    I’m Joe Biden, and I’m a proud Democrat running for the Senate. I will fight for your right to mutilate your kids’ reproductive organs even before they reach puberty.

    USA! USA! USA!

    • Agree: bomag
    • LOL: BB753
  42. @Reg Cæsar

    “With Dick Assman?”

    The local NAMBLA chapter head, no doubt.

  43. Admitting to child abuse on live TV.

  44. They B.S. that Reagan and O’Neill were also practically lovers. The truth is, they were political enemies, and O’Neill characterized Reagan as ‘an amiable dunce.’ No more truthful than revising a past to where Edison never invented the light bulb, and Lincoln never nominated a Supreme Court Justice before the next inauguration.

  45. @e.272

    I don’t think Transgenderism can be understood in a finite or definitive way, because it always and necessarily does have a subjective component.

    That said – transgenderism fits well into the dawning (and shrinking) of the middle class. If you think about it, it leads to kids, which are less prone to reproduce; so, there’s that.

    • Agree: Dissident
  46. @Thomas

    Maybe Joe doesn’t know that “transgender women of color” i.e. black chicks with dicks – a very tiny voting demographic – are being murdered by black men – a very important voting demographic – and those black men may not like Joe taking the trannies’ side.

    • Replies: @ken
  47. Dumbo says:

    HAECK: I’m good, thank you. I’m the proud mom of two girls, 8 and 10. My youngest daughter is transgender

    I googled. I thought from her slightly masculine face that Mieke Haeke was a lesbian, but she is married to a Democratic Politician – a man with a feminine face who looks gay, but what do I know.

    So I guess she’s the one who decides things in the house, or if a child should be allowed to be “transgender” or not.

    These people are a danger to society, to themselves, and to their own children. I cry for this poor “transgender” child and the messed-up life she will surely have.

  48. @Chief Seattle

    And if it doesn’t work out, you’re just another lovelorn bum on Skid Row, guzzling a bottle of Woolite. (Gene Wilder, z”l.)

  49. Tyrade says:

    Crowbars his dead son, dear dead dad, his (one?) experience working with blacks, men kissing each other into one (borderline) incoherent answer essentially favouring child abuse. No class and no sense.

    • Agree: Lot
  50. @Charles St. Charles

    And what’s happening is too many transgender women of color are being murdered.

    That’s because they are hookers and when their clients figure out that the woman they hired has a penis, they don’t react well. This was played for laughs in The 40 Year Old Virgin, but 2005 was apparently an unenlightened time.

    • Agree: S. Anonyia
    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    , @Bill
  51. @nebulafox

    In more conservative England, the GoodThink view is that eight is too young, it should be ten instead.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8821649/Its-OK-children-10-puberty-blockers-says-NHS-gender-identity-clinic.html

    That Biden story is a pile of crap, but the MSM aren’t going to query it. The chance of two guys openly kissing in Main Street USA, 1950s or early 60s, let alone the father’s response, is infinitesimal.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8846087/Nick-Clegg-involved-Facebooks-decision-hush-story-Joe-Bidens-son.html

  52. Altai says:

    It’s interesting that little attention is paid to most avowed transgenders being FtM these days, however adult women show minimal interest in ‘transition’. Now maybe a factor is actually that men tend to care a lot less about others opinions and high testosterone men the least, so maybe that is the core of the ‘Sailer-type’ moreso than it being that these men have hyper libidos and go down the rabbit hole of an extreme sexual fetish.

    Either way, adolescent Gen Z and late Gen Y is where it has been for most transgenders.

    https://www.transgendertrend.com/surge-referral-rates-girls-tavistock-continues-rise/

    These patterns holds for other Western countries. Prior to the current post-2013 craze, child male and female referrals were similar and much much smaller, this perhaps represented genuine intersex children. But after the intense craze, the female cohort which had represented a slight minority decoupled from the male in terms of increase and became the bulk. The age demographics of the children also shifted from pre-adolescents to adolescents. But rather than representing a ‘backlog’ of undiagnoised transgenders that dissipated in a few years as adolescents at the time of the great awokening became adults and pre-adolescent trans children became better diagnosed, the age and gender shift intensified. Now adolescents make up 80% of the referrals to Tavistock.

    An obvious explanation becomes clear. These are adolescent girls who are coming under influence from social media that they weren’t using prior to adolescence. This would also explain why the female demographic rises so much faster than the male. Going further, it seems obvious these are not just general adolescent girls but girls with BPD. This exact thing happened with anorexia, a condition which has vanished from view and diagnosis (Even as body image issues are surely more prevalent in the age of instagram and girls effectively competing with the whole world in terms of their attractiveness pecking order). Anorexia as a phenomena was the result of social contagion of girls with BPD. As a functional diagnosis it has receded massively, some even question if it is a real diagnosis itself or rather a symptom of BPD.

    An experiment would be to see if women diagnosed with BPD in adolescence who left high school prior to say 2010 exhibit any thoughts or desires of transgenderism and then compare with current BPD cohorts in high school. It’s the Tumblr-Twitter pipeline again. Have you ever seen a FtM who hasn’t had a septum piercing?

    All these girls are engaged in cries for help but instead all the adult authority figures in their lives take it at face value and send them down a path of destruction they’d never have gone on alone.

    • Agree: Beavertales
    • Thanks: Dissident
    • Replies: @68W58
    , @Jamie_NYC
  53. @NJ Transit Commuter

    The problem isn’t politicians telling fibs. The problem is that our society is becoming Stalinist because of SJW ideology.

    Lies have consequences. This insight has become somewhat ironic. You behave like an outsider, if you remark it in this context of Joe Biden goin’ freestyle about the past – because the trap sits right there: That afterward, you’d have trouble explaining that you are not homophobic or something in that nasty vein.

    Joe Biden is a demented genius of sorts because he swims in this muddy pole he turns public discourse into like a – perfect, Trout, let’s say – or even closer to the point – Joe Biden’s wearing Cpt. Beefheart’s Trout Mask Replica – and you can meet him at the – fishing pole (Lowell George in Cold, Cold, Cold).

    And here is what Lowell George and Cpt. Beefheart have for Joe Biden (still laughin’ like the fallen angels they once were) – Cpt. Beefheart’s When Big Joan Sets Up – song No. 4 on side three of the two LP Trout Mask Replica set – and the last verse of it goes like this:

    A turquoise scarf and silver rolled up over a Merc Montclair

    I’ll sit up with you Big Joan I’m too fat to go out in the daytime
    I’ll stay up all night if you promise not to talk about your hands bein’ too small
    Hoy, hoy, is she a boy
     
    Now – if she was indeed a boy – she’d be – Big Joe!

     https://www.lyrics.com/lyric/31315167/Captain+Beefheart+%26+the+Magic+Band/When+Big+Joan+Sets+Up

    It just now dawns on me: – This was the song that was playing in the car-radio, while Joe’s father told kid Joe that those two kissin’ men just – loved one another. – When Big Joan Sets Up, from Trout Mask Replica – we could just ask Joe Biden. But I’m sure, he’ll remember!

    One Size Fits All!
    Be it Gay or Trans
    Or Big or Small
    Be it Joans or Joes
    Standin’ on their toes
    Everythin’ is always clear my dear
    And that’s the trembling distant voice in your ear
    That startles your sleepy ears to hear
    That somebody thinks they’ve really found you

    (Frank Zappa – and B.D. / (an’ me, / I admit that -/ In This Here Grand Wazoo / I’m – guilty – too ).

  54. Is the Adderall what caused Creepy Joe’s dementia or what is keeping him ploughing ahead despite it?

  55. I did not watch the Biden-Stephanopoulos “town hall”, and upon reading the above purported transcript, I thought, “Steve Sailer is usually pretty good with coming up with a plausible-sounding parody, but this time he has gone too far.” The extra touch of Biden complaining about “too many” transgender women of color being murdered, was just too implausible.

    But a search on “yt! Biden Stephanopoulos transgender” led to the following clip, showing that Sailer’s parody was not a parody at all, but an actual transcript:

    • Agree: Travis
  56. I did not watch the Biden-Stephanopoulos “town hall”, and upon reading the above purported transcript, I thought, “Steve Sailer is usually pretty good with coming up with a plausible-sounding parody, but this time he has gone too far.” The extra touch of Biden complaining about “too many” transgender women of color being murdered, was just too implausible.

    But a search on “yt! Biden Stephanopoulos transgender” led to the following clip, showing that Sailer’s parody was not a parody at all, but an actual transcript:

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Dieter Kief
  57. Mike Tre says:

    “ A big question is whether Biden has the strength of character to resist the Woke zeitgeist”

    I’m not sure this is in question. It seems everyone already knows he doesn’t. It might even be a big reason why he got the nomination.

  58. @Reg Cæsar

    Did this guy stop short with Estelle Costanza, too?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  59. @Gary in Gramercy

    “throwing a bone” to that he / she. I wouldn’t suggest that to senile Joe.

  60. black sea says:
    @black sea

    I recently watched Airplane with my 15-year-old daughter. I’ve never seen her laugh so hard.

    There is hope.

  61. @Harry Baldwin

    You’re right, that was when many Americans began looking at Elizabeth Warren as their Crazy Aunt Liz.

  62. @Mr. Anon

    Münchhausen-by-Proxy – I’m maybe too quick with my irony here, but even though: Isn’t it interesting that something as obsolete as this syndrome, named after a German-Fairy-tale telling Baron, who just loved to – play with facts – – – could have so dire consequences – hundreds of years later…

    (I know that I now have crossed the border from irony to sarcasm. I guess that happened because this Joe Biden affair has lots of rather sad and – I agree with what you wrote – vile and evil and thus – “utterly despicable” aspects to it).

    It is one of the meaner psychological experiments I have as of yet encountered.

  63. Dumbo says:

    Lawrence Auster was right, even if few believed him at the time. “Gay marriage” and the normalization of homosexuality is really the litmus test for a healthy society, because it opens an unstoppable deluge of decadence and child abuse, now including “transgender children”.

    If “love is love” can mean that a traditional marriage is the same thing as adult males having group anal sex and fisting and “cruising” for sex in public toilets and saunas (check what goes on in the real gay world, not the liberal fantasy of “gay marriage”), it can also mean that an adult banging a teen or a child is “love”, or 8 year old children “changing sex”.

    “Transgender children” is abuse. Hell, even teenagers shouldn’t be allowed to be “transgenders”. I guess you can’t prohibit someone over 21 to decide that he’s really a female, or an elephant, or a dragonfly, but please keep the children out of it. This is the fault of the parents (and usually, the MOTHER – I doubt any self-respecting father wants a “transgender” child).

    “Love is love” is one of the most evil slogans ever conceived. It really means, translated, Doestoyevsky’s dictum that (If God doesn’t exist), “everything is permitted”.

    • Agree: 3g4me, Kolya Krassotkin
    • Thanks: TWS
  64. @Alfa158

    Heart warning is an interesting typo. Nice and – true – idiomatic sentence, that: Heart warning.

  65. @Anon

    I bet he’s lying here.

    r/thathappened

  66. Dr. X says:
    @Rob McX

    The mother should be involuntarily committed to an asylum for the criminally insane…

  67. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    Joe Biden in his answer to “Mieke”: “(…) you may recall (…) I was raised by a man, I remember I’ve been dropped off, my father was a man high school educated man (…). ”

    He said – to “Mieke” a complete stranger to him: “You may recall”.

    Oh yeah, sure, maybe, maybe Mieke recalls what Mr. Biden is now about to tell her in all shining detail.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  68. AndrewR says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Say what you want about Stalin, but he was a serious man who didn’t tolerate abject degeneracy. This terrible excuse for a mother and Joe Biden would both have been gulag’d, rightfully. It’s a sad state of affairs that Stalin’s Russia is beginning to look preferable to Soros’ USA.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  69. @e.272

    The message is Mom’s celebration of Mom. I don’t see it as terribly different from that syndrome mothers take up when they make their children sick so as to draw sympathy for having a sick child. Imagine the dopamine hit this woman has every day and so go ahead and tell me she doesn’t encourage this in her little ways in her behavior toward her child. BOTH kids? REALLY! She struck gold and her husband must be a real simp. Right along with the weaklings who allow their wives to adopt black children from Haiti.

    • Replies: @Juice-Layer
  70. AndrewR says:
    @anon

    That is inevitably the next step. I wish I were low IQ enough to believe what normies do. It would be more comforting. It’s not like I can do anything about our civilizational collapse besides impotently complain about it to the few people who will listen. This death spiral will continue long after I’m gone. I weep in pure horror for future generations.

  71. slumber_j says:
    @Charles St. Charles

    “I believe in an America… Your daughter, murder is just plain bad. My dad taught me that; African-American swimming pool! Even the transgendered, especially transgender!! Just no need for it: it’s dead wrong! No need in this country to grow up to be the murdered prostitute. Sex worker.”

    Or maybe that’s Bill Cosby. Whatever.

  72. Anon[421] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Agree. There’s a good book about how it’s being deliberately marketed to pre-teen girls, “Trangender Craze” by Abigail Shrier (jewish 🙄).

    Here’s an interview I partially saw with my teens. I don’t worry about my own, but they need to understand that crooked people want to get into their heads, sell them addictive substances, etc. Shrier really has great “tone”: kind, uncondescending, informed. Great sound bites for the attention-deficit generation.

  73. 68W58 says:
    @Altai

    Dr. Drew Pinsky was talking about an interesting study the other day. He said that young girls who have been exposed to porn are more likely to want to transition to “male”. Pinsky theorized that pre-adolescent girls, without any sexual feelings of their own, couldn’t contextualize what they had seen and were frightened by it. I thought he made a certain amount of sense.

    • Replies: @Altai
  74. El Dato says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Greta’s Opinions Matter:

    Greta Thunberg mocks US Supreme Court nominee as eco-activists paint judge’s refusal to OPINE on climate change as DISQUALIFYING

    Left-wing media outlets, such as Mother Jones, the Daily Beast and Salon chimed in with articles suggesting that Barrett is a “climate denier,” and Gizmodo said her “soft climate denial should be wildly disqualifying.” Climate writer Eric Holthaus said, “Quite simply, if you’re neutral on climate change, you’re complicit in the collapse of the planetary ecosystem upon which the survival of every living thing depends.” He called Barrett “scary” and suggested that she “isn’t qualified to evaluate factual evidence.”

    Madame Barrett will actually inherit the levers of the Extinction Death Star?

    Barrett: “Continue with the operation. You may remove this natural reserve when ready.”
    Greta: “What?”
    Barrett: “You’re far too trusting. Sweden is too remote to make an effective demonstration. But don’t worry. We will deal with your eco friends soon enough.”

    “Dear Greta,” one commenter wrote, “attending school might help understanding the role of a judge in society and the rule of law.” Another tweeted, “As a Supreme Court judge, the role will not be to offer an opinion on scientific issues. It will be to decide if matters coming before her are constitutional.”

  75. MLK says:
    @Anon

    I agree with the commenters that adjudge this story as utter nonsense. When it comes to Democrats, if it’s too good to be true, then it ain’t.

    Though Sailer is right to ignore that evidentiary question for the rabbit hole it is.

    I confess to being surprised that Trans came up in this debate, It’s little acknowledged that Trump found the sweet spot on the whole ‘LGBT’ shebang. A rare instance wherein a Republican wins the messaging war without abandoning the sensibilities of his base. You will note that Biden doesn’t mention Trump, let alone criticize him personally on this. Trump has been ending his rallies by playing ‘YMCA’ and even dancing to it a bit. A brilliant psy-op!

    It strikes me that Biden acquitted himself well here because the presentation was as anodyne as imaginable when it comes to Trans. You really have to marvel at the construct in both question and answer.

    This speaks to what I mentioned in a previous comment here. The freakish children of (some of) the white, corporate class, and their grandparents. The so-called suburban, college-educated, moderates.

    Don’t underestimate the powerful psychology operating here. Biden of course made up a fairy story about his father reacting to a couple of gays, but that’s a bit of retconning today’s oldsters much prefer to Pocahontas throwing her elders under the bus. Just one of myriad examples of whites forgetting that blacks are unique in American life (e.g. Obama and his grandmother).

    Setting aside the child, whether minor or adult, there’s a sizable contingent of parents and grandparents with a sad next generation story they have to grin and bear. They’re desperate to be told that it’s not their fault, unless they refuse to embrace it. Beginning with the Obama administration, the Democrats went quite a bit further. Their screwed up child or grandchild could attain new overlord status like any other that did the bidding of the Democrat powers that be.

  76. Templar says:
    @Lot

    Was this before or after his dad was working as a Welsh coal miner?

  77. Several forums, Yahoo included claimed that President Trump proved at his town hall meeting that he was insane. A ha..Now, consider a Biden’s opinion of what he claims eight year olds already know and should be given rights for?? Yahoo and other leftist forums did not consider what Biden was saying as insane..In fact, President Trump was baited literally during the whole town hall meeting by a leftist host, to whom he had to constantly answer to and he did!! He answered every question she tried to bait him with with the most wonderful acumen and intelligence. Biden on the other hand, was given soft ball questions and even helped by establishment media “star”, George Stephanopolous when answering a question he couldn’t finish answering. The ONLY people who are insane, is the establishment media reporters and Biden.Remember also,that this democrat party agreed with Obama that men who “feel” like women on any given day, should be able to use the women’s public restroom. Very convenient for them, isn’t it? Why the public can’t identify the sickness of the democratic party politicians and leaders, is something I can’t answer but like one Chief Justice once said about Porn, you can’t define it but know it when you see it.

  78. but I have the sinking feeling that Joe is Joe’s own best audience: after he says something, he seems persuaded of the rightness of whatever just came out of his mouth.

    It’s not even that complicated. Joe Biden’s brain is deteriorating from the frontal lobes back, so abstract concepts associated with executive function and decision-making, like a philosophical view of a complex phenomenon, are above his cognitive heft at this point. He is indeed persuaded by whatever just came out of his mouth. His garbled reminiscences all reflect primacy over recency again, reflecting how degeneration proceeds in the human brain.

  79. WJ says:

    If Trump beating HRC is the reason we will now have this buffoon and his screeching sidekick as our leader then I am seriously re-thinking 2016 as a possible pyrrhic victory. This guy can’t put two words together to make a coherent sentence. But it felt too good to see the crooked old skaynk go down.

  80. Corn says:
    @22pp22

    Surely the Burisma fiasco should be the end of Joe Biden.

    In a sane society…….

  81. BB753 says:

    Yeah, if Biden identified as a 10 year old transgered kid, it would make his life (and candidacy) easier.

  82. Yngvar says:

    Slow Joe was never supposed to be president. Trump had it all wrapped up and Mr. Biden was selected as an honorable candidate, put forth in his sundown years to lose with dignity, without damaging the Democrat Party brand.
    Then the Chinese Disease struck, the questionable guy gets a shot, and it’s all-hands-on-deck for the media to carry this doddering fool across. And dignity gets tossed out the window.

  83. Guest007 says:

    So is the best argument for voting for a second President Trump administration that Biden is worse, that the woke SJW will take over the White House and no matter how bad President Chaos and the Secretary of Failure Jared Kushner are, that Biden will be worse?

    Steve has always been a proponent of negative partisanship but what do all of the Republican think will happen with another four years of President Trump. Do they think the Republicans can regain control of the House. Do they think that the Republicans will win more governorships and control of more state houses. Do they think that the Republicans will gain seats in the Senate?

  84. @e.272

    Who knows, but the first option would be the one favoured by the true believers.

  85. Dan Smith says:

    Biden will have the nuclear codes if elected. That’s creepy. Karma Chameleon will take over. This election is the biggest fraud of all time.

  86. @Rob McX

    I think it’s something else. If you listen to the clip, you can hear that the mother is foreign. In other words,uprooted from her native culture. Which means that she is more prone to drifting with the cultural currents here.

    I’d be pretty sure that in supporting transgender she is trying to assimilate. Except she is trying to assimilate to the culture of death.

    • Replies: @Old and Grumpy
  87. Given the recent revelations about his son why does he want to imply that values are transmitted intergenerationally?

  88. Ganderson says:
    @Dieter Kief

    Dieter- Du bist nicht in den USA aufgewachsen, so I’ll forgive a small error in your clever post. Our pal Don Van Vliet got virtually no airplay in the USA, nor did Zappa, at least until “Don’t Eat the Yellow Snow”.

    “…and I’ll meet you at the fishing HOLE…” is from Sailin’ Shoes.

    Stick to Reinhard Mey, or the Scorpions!

    Otherwise great post!

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  89. Yup totally happened that a blue collar lunch pail Dad in 1955 saw 2 guys kiss on the street and then told his son a quote from tumblr.

  90. JR Ewing says:
    @22pp22

    30 years ago the media had the integrity to shame Biden out of the race over plagiarism.

    Notwithstanding that he’s still a plagiarist who should have been disqualified from even being Obama’s VP, now the media can’t even do it over Burisma, which is a million times worse.

    It’s sad and utterly corrupt and no one but the “far right” cares at all.

  91. @TomSchmidt

    I would like to know if she is divorced rather than a immigrant. Seems like most transgender’s moms have more of an issue with the son’s daddy. Take away the son from his father permanently is a power move. Also those type women get off sitting as a queen of woke in doctor offices. They get the attention, while their kid gets the pain.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
  92. I see they’ve doxed the woman in the red mask who was nodding agreement with Trump.

  93. JR Ewing says:

    It’s not as if black trannies are being hunted down in the streets by adventurous bigoted white people. It’s actually just more black on black crime and is quite understandable when you get down to it.

    The real reason that “too many” black trannies are getting murdered is because black men are exceedingly violent, especially in sexual situations, and often don’t appreciate being tricked into getting into a sexual situation with another man. Many black trannies purposely seek out these situations because they a.) are straight up gay and b.) they see being able to fool straight men into having a sexual encounter as being something of a game.

    So the truth often becomes known, either during the encounter or shortly thereafter, and the man who was tricked feels rightly humiliated and usually reacts violently to being fooled in such an intimate way.

    To paraphrase Chris Rock, I’m not saying that killing the Black Tranny was right, but I understand.

    The whole black tranny subculture is easily found on the internet, they straight up admit what they do and why they do it, and most reporters who peddle this narrative know the truth. It’s just more politically agreeable – and the numbers more useful to the narrative – to condemn the victims of the trickery for reacting negatively rather than criticize the tricksters themselves.

  94. Jack D says:
    @J

    The translators must be pulling their hair out. How do you translate word salad?

    Xi reads this and decides to order another aircraft carrier and to firm up the invasion plans for Taiwan. He can only view this as a sign that America is heading into its final phase of decadence and senility – a racially divided republic of transexuals presided over by a drooling old man.

  95. Jack D says:
    @Colin Wright

    Joe, Sr.’s actual words:

    “Look at those two degenerates, it’s disgusting. I wanna beat the crap out of them with this here tire iron which I keep on the seat next to me in case one of them knickers gets near my car. Joey, I can’t believe that you really want a job at a knicker pool. Do you know what they do in the water? I can get you a job washing cars at the dealership instead. It don’t pay as good but at least you won’t have to deal with them knickers.”

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  96. Look Joey two “African-Americans” in “love”.
    One day, son, one of them will be president before Trump.

  97. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    It’s a thoughtful analysis and were it not for the pandemic, Trump would win in a walk. But the pandemic has really thrown a monkey wrench into a lot of things. You may still be right but it wouldn’t shock me if Trump loses. The fact that a plague has descended on the people means that the ruler has lost the Mandate of Heaven and people blame him for it. It doesn’t have to make any sense – feelz don’t operate on the level of logic.

    It could have been otherwise – Trump could have positioned himself as the leader of the War on the Pandemic. People don’t like to change leaders in the middle of a war, especially a war that they think they are winning. But Trump didn’t go in that direction.

  98. @Anonymous

    Biden only has to convince a few people. Many voters are just voting against Trump. What we’re getting is Trump vs. NPC. People have simply gone off the rails. You should hear my co-workers. Trump tells a rally he loves them and wants to give them all a big kiss, and my co-workers literally accuse him of putting people’s lives in danger (by spreading COVID). It’s insane clown world. Really. These are people with Master’s degrees in a white collar job.

    • Replies: @Currahee
    , @MBlanc46
  99. anon[316] • Disclaimer says:

    The mother has masculine features. I wonder how much of the insanity on the Left today is due to mutational load.
    Modern plumbing and food abundance keeps everyone alive today. Sexual dysgenics could be increasing. People like this woman might have simply died in earlier times.
    What if these bad genes happen to be compatible with good intelligence? You would have lots of crazy, but successful, people. They become Democrats.

  100. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    How many trany wocs need to be whacked ? That’s not who we are. Cmon man im tired of this.

  101. Remember that Trump, for his part, has taken the transgender issue off the table. Not a good plan. Not at all.

    Of course, perhaps surrogates will attack Biden on this insanity. Who will do it? Conservative Inc? The GOP establishment?

  102. One day a curious, four year old girl picked up a hammer from her dad’s toolbox. Unfortunately, the girl’s loony mom witnessed the event.

    Oh, honey! Do you feel like a boy?

    Let’s get rid of that Barbie doll that grandma got you and go buy you some toy soldiers.

  103. ken says:
    @Charles St. Charles

    There are no chicks with dicks; only guys with boobs.

  104. Possumman says:
    @Anon

    Joe loves these apocryphal tales–he’s got a million of them

  105. Ragno says:
    @Gary in Gramercy

    The Joe Biden of the 1970’s and 1980’s, and even of the 1990’s, would have found the notion of an 8-year-old “deciding” to change genders to be ridiculous.

    Not to mention what the Joe Biden’s Father of the 70s and 80s would have actually told “Joey” about the two deviants sucking face in public where small children could see them.

    And I’m getting out of the car at the light and I turn to my dad. My dad looked at me and said Joey, let me catch you doing that with another man and so help me, I’ll kill you with my own bare hands.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  106. Michael S says:

    One of the symptoms of dementia – in a literal, not colloquial sense – is difficulty distinguishing between imagination and reality.

    You probably get the sense that he believes what’s coming out of his mouth because he actually does believe what’s coming out of his mouth. He’s not a “true believer”, mind you, more like a lump of clay.

    Hillary was the true cynic, exemplifying the left better than anyone. Everything she said was just an excuse for “give me more power”. Biden may actually be far more dangerous than she was, in that sense.

  107. martin_2 says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    That’s an excellent point, if I may say so.

  108. Deckin says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Absolutely, completely, BS. I grew up in San Francisco in the 60s and I never saw anything like that. It wasn’t until the 80s (at a gym, of course) that I saw that for the first time–I somehow instinctively managed to avert my eyes at the crucial moment.

  109. I liked the difference in questions at each “town hall”

    At Trump’s: Why are you so evil?
    At Biden’s: Why is Trump so evil?

    In fact, was there a single critical question at the Biden townhall that wasn’t from some Wokeist asking why he didn’t hate White people enough? It seemed like Biden was at a campaign event put on by democrats and Trump was at a debate, his opponent being Savannah Guthrie. Guthrie’s first questions were just demands that Trump denounce media-fueled conspiracy theories like Q and white supremacy, the biggest media conspiracy theory since the Russia conspiracy theory blew up. Was Biden asked to denounce antifa or the terrorist violence carried out by his allies for months?

    • Replies: @TontoBubbaGoldstein
  110. Mr. Anon says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    That would be both truthful and admirable.

    Admirable. Do you think “Pride Parades” and “Drag Queen Story Hour” has made the World a better place?

  111. anon[773] • Disclaimer says:

    As much as I’m appalled that that stupid mother put her child through this (I think the parents should go to jail for child abuse), I’m glad she asked the question. It lets the whole country see how far gone the left is, and that the last thing we need is for these loonies to run the country and get more of their hands on our children.

    Joe Biden went on and on and never really answered any question. Kudos to George Stephanopoulos for at least pressing him to answer the question. But still, not a single question on Hunter Biden and Ukraine or China.

    Compare this to the Trump Town Hall, where Savannah Guthrie was just a bitch on roller skates to Trump with her rude questioning and interruptions that weren’t even asked by the audience. She’s one of those idiot egotistical journalists who think the TH is about her rather than the audience asking question to the guest.

  112. @Change that Matters

    “Mieke Haeck is the wife of Ezra Nanes”

    Ezra is a fine Hebrew boys name. Assume the child’s father Ezra is Jewish, and Mieke Haeck’s religion is The Church of Progressivism.

    I hope the ‘trans’ son grows up to hold his mother accountable for psychological abuse.

  113. I still believe that Nixon and Kennedy gave much more articulate answers to the issue of transgender eight-year-olds during the 1960 presidential campaign than Biden’s have been.

  114. @black sea

    It’s streaming on Netflix and I watched it for the first time in decades last week. Was surprised at how often I laughed…and how attractive Julie Hagerty was.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
  115. @Anonymous

    “Biden goes down on historical precedents in 2020”

    Wishful thinking. There are no more historical precedents because there is no longer any historical continuity in America because there is no longer any America. It’s like the way your hair and fingernails continue to grow for a little while after you’re dead.

    Unending non-stop ceaseless immigration has erased America as a historical entity. This isn’t even the same country it was in 2016, let alone 1986. Comparisons to previous voting patterns are irrelevant.

    • Agree: fish
  116. @Dieter Kief

    The Mieke shall inherit the earth. Scorched as it may be.

    https://biblehub.com/matthew/5-5.htm

  117. @Jack D

    Xi reads this and decides to order another aircraft carrier and to firm up the invasion plans for Taiwan.

    Not right away. Water is more important to them than land.

    China has enough of both land and people. If you discount water, Canada is the fourth-largest country, surpassed by China and the US.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  118. As any farmer knows, castration is best done when young. Presumably under a Harris-Biden administration any child identifying as transgender, they would immediately be spayed or neutered as required.
    If transgenderism is inherited, it would disappear in a generation or two.

  119. Rob McX says:
    @Anon

    I bet he’s lying here

    Definitely. Poor old Joe seems to be trying to outdo Ronald Reagan with his anecdotes of non-existent experiences.

  120. @Reg Cæsar

    Taiwan has enormous industrial and intellectual capital that is strategically important to the US and China.

    If there is prolonged chaos after the US election it would not surprise anyone if Xi made a play for Taiwan.

    I don’t believe a distracted US could stop that play without resorting to tac nukes.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  121. @Anonymous

    USA political culture rarely generates two unprecedented POTUS election results in a row.

    Every close election after the Bryan era was followed by a clear one. It’s like the electorate doesn’t want consecutive indecision. Sometimes it’s a landslide, for or against the incumbent (1964, 1972, 1980), sometimes a new face (1920, 1952, 1980), sometimes a clarification (1964, 1972, 1996, 2004).

    Today Biden is 7 years older than 2016 Trump and not in good health.

    He breaks Reagan’s age record Wednesday morning, 19 days from now. That is, the record Reagan set at the end of his presidency.

    Your analysis is similar to one linked a week or two ago by either RedState or Revolver. (I can’t keep those two straight.) All the historical comparisons point to reelection. The polls say quite differently. It’s like the 2016 election– both the electoral and “popular” votes were quite clear. But they disagreed.

    I gave up predicting politics after getting post-Tianmen China wrong, preferring an “if-then” approach. I smell a landslide coming. But which way? You got me.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    , @epebble
  122. epebble says:
    @Anonymous

    The data may be suggesting that too:

    Prediction 18 days before election (Oct 21) in 2016: 86.5% Clinton, 13.5 Trump, <0.1 Johnson
    Prediction 18 days before election (Oct 16) in 2020: 87.0% Biden, 13.0% Trump

    If Trump can retrace 2016 from here on out, and do a little better, he can eke out a win. Never discount Deus ex Machina.

  123. Rob McX says:
    @Redneck farmer

    I think it’s safe. If they banned it they’d have to ban just about everything from before 2000 at the latest. Often when I’m watching movies from even ten years ago I see stuff they’d never get away with today.

  124. Jon says:

    That whole rambling mess of an answer starts with this:

    You may recall I’m the guy who said

    But then he never actually gets around to what he supposedly said. He sets it up like he said something so memorable and on point that we are all going to immediately remember it, but then he can’t even pull it out of his addled brain.

    Also, the whole thing reads like some kind of Cliffs Notes for Political Candidates:
    1. Show respect for parents
    2. Talk about the Great State of Delaware!
    3. Mention black people
    4. Briefly segue back to the actual topic of the question
    5. Did you mention black people?
    6. Personalize it for the questioner
    7. And a little dead son sympathy for the finale

  125. Jmaie says:

    He was the guy who got the first transgender passed in the state of Delaware and because of a young man who became a woman who worked for him in the attorney general offices.

    That’s not how it works, she was always a girl dontcha know. He’ll end up cancelled if he keeps spewing such hateful oppressing marginalizing unscientific problematic BIPOCLGBTQ22-tiring nonsense.

  126. Whiskey says: • Website

    White women love gays and trannies. Just look at the stuff in the really female channels. All RuPaul etc. Or look at Ellen.

    Biden is up huge in PA. And this stuff just puts him over the top with women.

  127. @nebulafox

    The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment was a big nothing-burger that liberals love to hyperventilate about. Don’t feed that frenzy.

    A better comparison was the Catholic practice of castrating young choir boys to keep their voices high past puberty.

  128. @ScarletNumber

    Also it’s strange people are so fixated on their murders when real women get murdered by domestic partners way more often. Joe Biden actually correctly stated that the number of transwomen of color murdered so far this year was only 17- before the creepy mother suggested it was way higher, and he just rolls with it despite a total lack of evidence. A lot of these transgender “women” probably throw a mean punch and are fairly capable of defending themselves.

  129. Rob McX says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    In today’s Clown World version, it would be Lincoln telling the little girl to grow a beard.

  130. …our city; Wilmington, Delaware, the corporate capital of the world at the time.

    “At the time”? 1209 is as significant a number to businessmen and corporate lawyers as 1729 was to Srinivasa Ramanujan.

    STEPHANOPOULOS: We’ve got one more segment coming up.

    And one more lunch. Mine.

    Anyone else notice that Delaware is shaped kind of like Steely Dan? (The original, Steely Dan III from Yokohama.)

    • Replies: @Bubba
  131. ‘…I’m the proud mom of two girls, 8 and 10. My youngest daughter is transgender…’

    The pathetic thing here is that, reading between the lines, the younger daughter is just competing for attention.

    That’s fine. Deciding that the she really is ‘transgender’ and warping her whole life on that account isn’t.

  132. Bill says:
    @22pp22

    Not even the Dems are denying it.

    Is that actually true? They’ve been denying it for years. Did they actually stop yesterday?

  133. Bill says:
    @ScarletNumber

    I think Charles may have been inquiring as to the skin-melanin-content of the trannie hookers’ clients.

  134. Forbes says:
    @Roger

    There is no way that he will be able to make the woke leftists happy.

    Woke leftists are miserable people–they don’t want to be happy. They want to be in-charge.

  135. @Anon

    “ And I’m getting out of the car at the light and I turn to my dad. My dad looked at me and said Joey, it’s simple. They love each other.”

    And then that young Joey grew up, got elected to the United States Senate, and voted for the Defense of Marriage Act.

    • LOL: Escher
    • Replies: @Rob McX
  136. Wilkey says:

    Eight-year-olds aren’t old enough to consent to sex but they are old enough to consent to permanent, irreversible, life-altering surgery that could prevent them from ever having children of their own – at an age when many of them still believe in Santa Claus.

    • Agree: Unladen Swallow
  137. @Anon

    And these two men, I’m getting out to get an application to be a lifeguard in the African American community because there was a big swimming pool complex . . .

    . . . and one of those men was Corn Pop, who was a bad dude. And then we all clapped.

  138. I was so naive that some fifty years ago while attending an anti-Vietnam war demonstration in downtown Chicago I did not realize that a sodomite was trying to pick me up when he asked if I was there alone and suggested I stay close in case there was some kind of trouble.

    I remember at the time thinking it was weird. Deviant sexual behavior was not on the radar at this stage of my life. Remembering this incident later in life I realized what had been going on.

    I was a regular reader of Popular Science and there was an article on homosexuality in one issue. My mother stapled the pages so I could not read it. She told me it might confuse me. I was not interested and didn’t even pry the staples off and read the article.

    I call bullshit on Biden’s story. It didn’t happen. Some staffer made it up and thought it make Biden look so very woke and enlightened.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
  139. Dissident says:
    @Rob McX

    [Biden:] There Should be No Discrimination Against 8-Years-Olds Who Decide They Are Transgender

    [Rob McX:] I agree with that.

    Could you elaborate? What do you consider a reasonable and humane response to an eight-year-old boy who insists that he is really a girl (or vice-versa)?

    When I was still very young, at most five or six, I went through a phase of thinking that I wanted to be a girl and expressing this wish. Thankfully, this passed quickly and never re-surfaced. (While I never was particularly masculine, I also never, since that brief early phase, doubted the objective reality that I was male, nor desired to become otherwise.) My parents and any other adults in positions of power and influence over me were firm in asserting the clear and unambiguous objective reality that I was a boy.

    It was a saner time back then. But what if it had been today? What if that immature, probably curiosity-driven, foolish whim of mine had been indulged? I shudder to think.
    ~ ~ ~
    Apropos, an iSteve thread from back in March:
    Puberty Blockers as … Puberty Blockers?

    Below I have excerpted from a few of the comments.

    [MORE]

    AnotherGuessModel says:
    I know I would have been doubly uncomfortable going through the intense hormonal and physical changes of puberty had it been impressed on me since pre-school that boys and girls are exactly the same, and our only differences are social constructs devised by The Patriarchy. Sweden seems to be an extreme example of a general trend in many Western cultures.

    V. Hickel says:
    my daughter of 11 is going through this right now and I am f—ing terrified. she says she feels like she is neither a boy or a girl and has started calling herself an androgynous name at school, which of course the school immediately caters to. we took her to a therapist after being badgered by the guidance counselor and immediately the therapist referred us to the CHOP gender clinic. I called to make an appointment and thank god nobody answered, the voice mail message said amongst other things “for prescription refills press 2”..
    […]
    […]I am very scared yet determined not to give my child over to this evil.

    CCZ says:
    With some personal experience with the transgender community and their support groups, 2 sites that I have found useful in understanding and challenging the “transition” imperative.
    […]
    [1] Transgender Trend

    We are an organization of parents, professionals and academics based in the UK who are concerned about the current trend to diagnose children as transgender, including the unprecedented number of teenage girls suddenly self-identifying as ‘trans’ (Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria or ROGD).”

    We have no religious or political affiliation. We come from diverse backgrounds, and our team includes teachers and safeguarding professionals, academics and parents, some of whom were themselves extreme gender non-conforming children and adolescents, some whose own children have self-diagnosed as ‘trans’ and some who know supportive trans adults who are also questioning recent theories of ‘transgenderism.’

    Numerous videos, articles, analysis:
    https://www.transgendertrend.com/resources-for-parents/

    [2] 4thWaveNow
    “A community of parents & others concerned about the medicalization of gender-atypical youth and rapid-onset gender dysphoria (ROGD)”

    I wrote,

    I learned-of [4thWaveNow] from comment that was posted here at iSteve back in 2016. Particularly notable is that “the founder and primary author of 4thWaveNow” describes herself not only as “left-leaning” but also as “a strong supporter of gay, lesbian, and bisexual people.” Such statements and the type of thinking they exhibit, regardless of how any of us view them, undoubtedly lend the site valuable credibility in the eyes of many.

    An additional resource:
    Gender Dysphoria in Children (American College of Pediatricians – November 2018)

    • Replies: @Rob McX
  140. @Anon

    George Constanza said, “Remember Jerry, it’s not a lie, if you believe it”

  141. Currahee says:

    Only in a Terminally Silly Country could this subject be treated as an issue of national importance.

  142. Clyde says:
    @Anon

    Of course Biden is lying but he knows that sheeple (especially Democrat sheeple) like to hear stories, narratives and tall tales. This is why TV advertising is effective. Hopefully large numbers of sheeple were turned off by Trans-Joe’s shuck and jive.

  143. @Jack D

    Xi reads this and decides to order another aircraft carrier and to firm up the invasion plans for Taiwan. He can only view this as a sign that America is heading into its final phase of decadence and senility – a racially divided republic of transexuals presided over by a drooling old man.

    Agree on your 2nd sentence, but not the first.

    There’s simply no need for the Taiwan invasion.

    Anyone sane looking at America’s minoritarian hissy fit this last five to ten years with our “establishment” yapping about how special and important homosexual coupling is, then how critical it is to humor the mentally ill with their delusions of being the opposite sex, now that cops should not arrest criminals from our most criminal ethnic group–nor anyone rioting or looting in support–but we should “defund” the police …

    … and worse that huge tranches of our college educated populace thinks they are virtuous by believing this stuff …

    realizes that America is simply done–a joke with carriers and nukes.

    Xi won’t invade unless his ego really gets the better of him. He–and the Chinese establishment–can just wait knowing that his nation is headed toward an inevitable victory–its place restored as the Middle Kingdom at the center of the world.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @frankie p
  144. Rob McX says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I smell a landslide coming. But which way? You got me.

    I’d say for Trump, unless they find a live boy or a dead girl in his bed between now and November the 3rd. Dopey Joe is digging his political grave as hard as he can, trying to show how OK he is with gays and transgenders, even bringing his dead father into it. It’s the political equivalent of watching your granddad disco dancing and thinking he’s cool.

    People say it’s OK because Harris can take over when Joe’s faculties reach total implosion. But I think Americans want a president to vote for, not a ridiculous dotard with a VP waiting to step in. People will be thinking that if the Dems couldn’t find two mentally competent people in a country of 330m, they don’t deserve their votes.

  145. Currahee says:
    @Anon

    But of course! All good and decent dads approved of homo love in 1960. Everybody knows that, stupid.

  146. Rob McX says:
    @Dissident

    I should probably have made my point more clearly. I meant that if a child has silly ideas about wanting to change sex, our anger shouldn’t be directed towards the child, but towards the adults who encourage or indulge their sexual confusion. Of course I agree with you in believing that any such ideas on the child’s part should be firmly nipped in the bud by their parents. It’s the parents who encourage such deviance that deserve to be punished.

    • Thanks: Dissident
  147. Dissident says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Joe could have said something like: “I grew up in a world where gays and trans people faced serious discrimination. I also discriminated against gays. But over time, many brave people pushed to end discrimination against gays and I realized that my old beliefs weren’t right.” That would be both truthful and admirable.

    Just what “serious discrimination” do you refer-to? Can you name any specific forms that (a) were commonplace during the era-in-question and (b) for which you can articulate an argument for why they are reprehensible?

    “Admirable”? Is it admirable to pretend that two males buggering each other can ever equate to sacred matrimony? To allow same-sex couples to adopt and raise children, and even create via unnatural means? To indoctrinate impressionable children with propaganda that whitewashes the inordinate risks and other hideous realities of sexual practices that are inherently brutal, unhygienic and otherwise objectively unwholesome?

    John Derbyshire has argued that from his personal observations over his lifetime– including the part of it when homosexual acts were still de jure illegal– that homosexuals, as long as they remained reasonably discreet, enjoyed far more tolerance de facto than there is today for anyone who dares not to fully accept celebrate and extol homosexuality as fully normal and wholesome sublimely superior.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  148. Rob McX says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Ssh…you’re not supposed to mention that.

  149. Wake up says:
    @Anon

    Joe Biden…. career bullshit merchant

  150. @Ganderson

    Thanks – Ganderson – thanks for having a close look. In Cold Cold Cold is one of the other favorite lines of mine – of all times: “I called Room, Room service / “I’m down here on my knees / A Beet, or a pear or a coconut please” (I know: The original version is a peach, or a pear or a coconut please – but: The version in my head is even more longin’ than the – hm, real one, isn’t it? It’s weirder, and a bit more irritating (maybe too irritating to be a really good line in a rock song, but it – serves my head quite nicely, so what shall this poor boy do – he’ll leave it at that – – !

    (My assumption that Cpt. Beefheart would have been playing in the car radio was intentionally counter-factual – in other words: I knew it is absurd and thought – in a rather vaudevillian move – that’s what makes it work here even better (I know that you should never try to explain a joke, but if there is an exception to this rule I could think of at all – it might be in one in the context of – Don van Vliet – mighten’t it – as the true bard himself – could have put that one – – ?!

    PS

    The America I grew up near was Patrick Henry-Village Heidelberg – American Forces Europe – Headquarters. – With PX stores (for stereo equipment and stuff – – – ) and – AFN radio – and quite relaxed guards standing in the Badenian sun – at least when I think of them now, which does not happen that often though…

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  151. The sign language guy actually interpreted her question as follows:

    “Hey Joe I have a ten year old daughter and an eight year old son. I once caught my son playing princess and anyway he seems kind of fruity. Now I insist everyone call him Billy-erina, I dress him in girl’s clothes, give him hormone injections, and plan to have him castrated ASAP. I know he will have a roughly 50% chance of suicide but I think he should go for the coin flip. My question… what will you do to make sure anyone who dares question my child rearing practices is punished?”

  152. @Anon

    Sure it was a lie about his dad’s made up 2020 style reaction to a made up 1940s(?) incident…

    but what’s really telling is that Ol’ Joe couldn’t manage to actually deal with a situation of some mentally ill women wanting her eight year old castrated. Guys kissing was pretty much the maximum level of degeneracy he was able to even envision for lie convenient purposes.

    Noticed this a lot with old democrats. They can ignore what their party actually supports today because (paradoxically) even to THEM it’s so insane and farfetched. Because it seems unreal they just ignore it and go back to some fantasy where leftism means good wages for bread winning family men down in the (now nonexistent) factory. They vote for THAT.

    • Replies: @Charlotte
  153. Altai says:
    @68W58

    I think for some of them it might be a way to cut off their female sexuality that has been a source of trauma for them. (Sexual abuse as child, other forms of traumatic sexual assault)

    But, I wonder if exposure to porn isn’t correlated rather than causative.

  154. Tulip says:

    I’d feel more reassured if I could tell that Joe is really a cynical bastard who is just saying zany things for cynical reasons. . .

    I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side … Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.

    — Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944[12][22]

    Biden on busing:

    Biden on the Confederate Flag and the United Daughters of the Confederacy:

    Be reassured.

  155. @Dieter Kief

    My assumption that Cpt. Beefheart would have been playing in the car radio was intentionally counter-factual…

    Not in your typical college town. Sophomore DJs can be quite eclectic, as can the townie high school sophomores who imbibe their venom. (Sure ’nuff ‘n yes I did.)

    Fact’ry no place for me,
    Boss Man, let me be…

    I want to find the sheet music for the Captain’s “Electricity“, so I can do an acoustic version. Denizens of an HBD forum can at least appreciate a guy responsible for a tune called “Dirty Blue Gene”. (Go with the instrumental version.)

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  156. Currahee says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    Yes, that is the heart of the matter, they aren’t voting for the corpse/whore; but against Trump.

  157. @kimchilover

    You must be gay; not just for using Netflix but for thinking Julie Hagerty is attractive. She looks like a 3,000 year old mummy that has been reanimated somehow.

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
  158. @Reg Cæsar

    Oh, Reg Caesar, surprise!, surprise! – one more member of the small but noticable Van Vliet-fleet round here. – Good luck with your acoustic version, this plan sounds perfectly well in my ears.

    Dirty Blue Gene – is dirty (= trout-masquerading/ fishy) – in a way – – too – because – öhh – dirty blue genes can be found (and multiplied, even) in – Dirty Blue Jeans, can’t they? At least that would be the way the rather scientific take on this one could look like, seen from professor Paglia’s**** & Dr. Freud’s perspective as far as my (f)lyin’ eyes can see.

    **** Camille Paglia might owe something to Don van Vliet – now that I think of it – since her biggest tome is called – The Masks of Sexuality

    Btw. – The Trout-Masks of Sexuality might have been too explicitly on the prole side, but I would have liked the title even better this way – hintin’ directly at The ballrooms ‘n’ smelly bordellos / ‘n’ dressin’ rooms filled with – parasites – // meeting at the – fishin’ hole – – –

    (A nice Rollin’ Feat medley)

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  159. “underage obsessions”

    #AppleTreeNotFar

  160. @Jim Christian

    Jim, ….as you may recall. I have a feeling this “mother” is raising two bastards. If any “man” would allow or even acknowledge trans-anything in his family why even breathe? That’s a resource better saved for continuing to let trans exist one more day.

    • Agree: Jim Christian
  161. dfordoom says: • Website
    @AndrewR

    It’s a sad state of affairs that Stalin’s Russia is beginning to look preferable to Soros’ USA.

    It looks more and more like the Cold War was won by the bad guys.

    • Replies: @Michelle
  162. @Chrisnonymous

    Please, oh please, let there be trans-related sexual content on Hunter’s laptop…

  163. Biden:

    And these two men, well dressed, leaned up and hugged one another and kissed one another. And I’m getting out of the car at the light and I turn to my dad. My dad looked at me and said “Joey, it’s simple. They love each other.” One of those men was called Corn Hole. I shit you not. Everyone was scared of that guy.

  164. Gapeseed says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    But we live in a society where, if you, at any point in the past, deviated even slightly from the orthodoxy of this second, you are forever outcast and shamed. So Joe has to make up a crazy story. The problem isn’t politicians telling fibs. The problem is that our society is becoming Stalinist because of SJW ideology.

    The Stalinists today here in America are an obnoxious minority. If we were less polite to them we would be better off.

  165. @black sea

    Surely you can’t be serious?

    • Replies: @Bubba
  166. @Anon

    “ And I’m getting out of the car at the light and I turn to my dad. My dad looked at me and said Joey, it’s simple. They love each other.”

    I bet he’s lying here.

    He is. As soon as I heard it, I knew it. Too perfect.

    This is the mother of all virtue signals. How many men of that generation do you suppose were that tolerant of homosexuality?

  167. Bubba says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    “And you have a nice pineapple there honey,” as Biden would say.

    I am absolutely shocked that nary a woke reporter has brought up the “waitress sandwiches” that the ¡Three Amigos! Ted Kennedy, Chris Dodd and Joe Biden made famous at La Brasserie in DC.

  168. @Pop Warner

    Remember the Pence/Harris debate:

    Moderator to Harris : “If your ticket wins and president Trump refuses to accept a peaceful transfer of
    power, what steps would you and vice president Biden then take?”

    Moderator to Pence : “If vice president Biden is declared the winner and president Trump refuses to
    accept a peaceful transfer of power, what would be your role and responsibility
    as vice president?”

    For the record, President Trump is not the one who has er…”resisted” election results.

  169. Possumman says:

    Hi –I’m the proud mother of 2 children-unfortunately one of them is severely mentally ill…

  170. @Chrisnonymous

    So, what did Old White Joe really whisper into the girl’s ear at that event? Does anyone believe he really said “honored”?

  171. Ragno says:
    @Anonymous

    Your analysis is solid, and easily agreed with.

    But I never pictured a Biden victory having anything to do with Biden, and everything to do with the mail-in boondoggle…..and the counting. That’s why Hillary’s public advice has all been directed towards his campaign strategists/managers; her contempt for the candidate himself is palpable enough that she wouldn’t dirty her hands even to compliment him.

    This reading of the tea leaves re the mood and will of the electorate has little to nothing to do with Power Grab 2020.

  172. Anonymous[309] • Disclaimer says:

    I think we should treat tranny kids the same way we treat kids who want to go sell their bodies at truckstop 5. Tell them they got to wait until age 18, or maybe 16 if we want to be more European about it. That said, I would never express that opinion under my own name. And that’s not because of Joe or Kamala, that’s not because of some blue-hair feminist. That’s because of corporate America, specifically the tech industry where I work. They are the problem, and instead of fighting them Trump cut their taxes. What I’m not seeing here is acknowledgement of that fact or a plan to do anything about it.

  173. MBlanc46 says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Most Americans aren’t that decadent. But most Americans think Orange Man Bad.

  174. Bubba says:
    @TontoBubbaGoldstein

    I am serious. And don’t call me Shirley.

  175. MBlanc46 says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    That’s it, Chris. This is a referendum on Trump, and most people have long since made up their minds. What Biden says is pretty much irrelevant.

  176. MBlanc46 says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Even a non-distracted US could not save Taiwan.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  177. @Dieter Kief

    With weird acts like Beefheart and Pere Ubu, I usually only got their most commercial album, e.g., Safe as Milk. In such cases, a momentary “selling-out” produced something fun to listen to.

    Enjoy this reviewer’s contact with Beefheart on p. 74:

    https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Audio/Archive-HiFI-Stereo/70s/HiFi-Stereo-Review-1975-04.pdf

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  178. @Dieter Kief

    With weird acts like Beefheart and Pere Ubu, I usually only got their most commercial album, e.g., Safe as Milk. In such cases, a momentary “selling-out” produced something fun to listen to.

    Enjoy this reviewer’s contact with Beefheart on p. 74:

    https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Audio/Archive-HiFI-Stereo/70s/HiFi-Stereo-Review-1975-04.pdf

  179. Gapeseed says:

    To those who think Biden will win:

    I suspect most of your confidence is based on polls. Who, exactly, is getting polled? Has anyone on this thread been polled? Does anyone here know anyone who has been polled?

    Related to this point, in this climate of cancel culture, why would any Trump voter, called by a stranger, both answer their phone and tell the truth about their inclinations? We’ve seen yard signs torn down, civilians harassed, even people hounded out of their job, all for the crime of open support for Trump. In broad swaths of society (academia, media, entertainment), supporting Republicans is a career death wish.

    I recently and only reluctantly forked over a campaign contribution to Trump, having been overly reticent in part because I live in NYC and have looked at the Wokesters stomp about looking to put the boot to people like me. It’s not beyond the realm of possibility to see these people comb through voter contribution lists and try to cancel them. And when that phone rings and someone asks a Trump supporter for their opinion, this foreknowledge manifests and, well, why go against your gut when it rebels against telling the truth? Why take the chance that the pollster is benign and is who he says he is?

    There is manifest and perhaps massive voter fraud by mail, and that could swing a close election. But if I were to bet, Trump wins in a walk.

  180. Remember the Pence/Harris debate:

    Honi soit Kamala-Pence.

    (Sorry, but I’m just trying to inject some much-needed class into this sorry year.)

  181. Jack D says:
    @Ragno

    Since none of us were there, we can make up all sorts of imaginary dialogue and I can’t tell you whether we got it right or not, although yours is as good a guess as any.

    I can tell you one thing with near absolute certainty though – Joe Sr. NEVER, not in a million years, in Wilmington 1960 said the words that Jr. told us he said. It would have been literally unthinkable in that time and place. America was a different country then – homosexuals were not accepted in the way they are now. The most progressive thinkers thought at best that this was a mental illness. Everyone else considered them to be perverts and criminals. Say you came upon a man molesting a child in public today – think of how you would feel. Would you turn to your teenage son and explain to him that this is really all OK or would you express shock, horror, anger, dismay, etc. ? This is how people in America 1960 thought about gays.

    You can tell that Jr. is a pathological liar – the kind of person who lies for fun, who lies when he doesn’t even have to lie, who can’t help himself and is UNABLE to tell the truth. Having such a pathological liar as POTUS in bad news.

  182. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Dissident

    John Derbyshire has argued that from his personal observations over his lifetime– including the part of it when homosexual acts were still de jure illegal– that homosexuals, as long as they remained reasonably discreet, enjoyed far more tolerance de facto than there is today for anyone who dares not to fully accept celebrate and extol homosexuality as fully normal and wholesome sublimely superior.

    What’s interesting is that the idea that the state should actively police sexual behaviour is a fairly modern one. Plenty of societies have had draconian laws on the books regarding sexual behaviour but mostly it’s been accepted that there’s no way those laws could be effectively enforced. Unless you were very stupid or very reckless or very blatant you probably weren’t going to be bothered. The one exception was the Puritan strand of Protestantism in the 17th century but that was more of an attempt to create a theocracy with the Church rigidly enforcing morality.

    Things started to change in the late 19th century, in Britain and the US. Social reformers (mostly Christian) developed a sudden enthusiasm for the idea that the state should act as a moral policeman. There was a disturbing growth of a proto-totalitarian mindset among late 19th century British and American Protestants. Progressivism was very totalitarian and Progressivism was very heavily dominated by Protestants. 19th century American feminists were also heavily Protestant and heavily totalitarian.

    Certainly the idea that police forces should include a Vice Squad to seek out and punish moral transgressors is very much a 20th century idea.

    • Thanks: Dissident
  183. Anonymous[104] • Disclaimer says:

    The half-life of the typical “gay” “love” is about 3 days. By the end of the week the amorous pair that little Joe witnessed had doubtless parted ways, resuming their respective searches for the ever elusive Mr. Rightbutt.

  184. frankie p says:
    @AnotherDad

    Yes, time is, and has been for quite a period, on China’s side as the US sinks into maximum cultural degradation, the economic predators continue their usurious plundering of the US middle class, and the country fragments more and more, spiraling into a debt trap that will end up with the US dollar losing its reserve status. Then the proverbial shit will really hit the fan! There’s another reason that Xi won’t invade Taiwan, and it’s one that westerners don’t understand or mention. The fact is, Xi and the Chinese establishment view the people of Taiwan as Chinese, even as the Taiwanese are brainwashed into proclaiming and having pride for their separate “identity”. The CCP doesn’t want to attack and kill a lot of their own people. The over-the-top black block protesters in Hong Kong, supported by western agencies, were treated with kid gloves, another example of how the Chinese government is hesitant to use force on Chinese people unnecessarily.

  185. Rob McX says:

    Biden senior, as Joe remembers him, wouldn’t have approved of films like this.

  186. Charlotte says:
    @Anonymousse

    Noticed this a lot with old democrats. They can ignore what their party actually supports today because (paradoxically) even to THEM it’s so insane and farfetched.

    I’ve seen this phenomenon with my elderly mother. She just can’t quite grasp that the transgender craze is real, and that responsible people like parents and teachers would actually facilitate a mixed-up child’s wish to be the opposite sex. It’s such a departure from the world she’s known most of her life, it doesn’t compute.

    • Agree: Anonymousse, Dissident
  187. @Reg Cæsar

    Oh, Reg Caesar – I’m not (quite) awake yet and – what a surprise before my sleepy eyes! – All these stereos. And Paul Nelson – – – about Blood on the Tracks. A Revox A 77 – I have one standing ten feet away from me, resting in the corner. I can’t dump it. Yep. But the remarks about the novel being almost dead in the van Fleet review – and now I think of all the great books that came after this remark…A feature about Elisabeth Schwarzkopf…

    At times, when I talk to my nephews, for example, they start to envy me – for having been – allowed? – to live through these times. Funny thing is – we knew right away, as teenagers – that something special was going on. We often mentioned that we were stunned – and tried to explain to one another, just how stunning a lot of things were – and we were right there, in the middle of it. 

    Three minutes in the world is nothing but blue skies – from now on:

    What she talks about in the beginning is – absolutely on the Thomas Bernhard frequency of The Cheap Eaters or Ritter, Dene, Voss or Histrionics  = way (a long and winding road, really) over the top but – charming and thoughtful and self-absorbed and  – spinös as the Austrians say – throughout, nevertheless (= very human).

  188. Steve, I know this is an old post at this point, but could you please, please, please embed this up top?

    Joe Biden’s ACTUAL Dad:

  189. haha says:
    @Barnard

    “He is so full of himself he won’t see it coming when they remove him from office”

    With his brilliant mental faculties, he won’t even know or understand that he has been removed from office.

  190. @Enemy of Earth

    Probably a millennial staffer made up the story. The key giveaway is the “it’s simple, they love each other” part. Even in the unlikely event his Catholic car dealer father from Baltimore was tolerant of gays for his time, NO ONE from that time would have ever gotten all gushy about it and talked about how it’s just looovvee. That’s completely modern language/thinking there, and in fact the whole “love is love” thing is stamped across liberal bumper stickers and yard signs, lol.

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  191. My white cisgender bias made me read this incorrectly at first. Now I think that when this lunatic says “I have two daughters and one of them is transgender” she actually means “I have a son and a daughter but we are planning to cut the penis off our son and re-label him a daughter.” Is that the correct reading?

  192. MrLiberty says:

    Mental health issues need to be addressed, not pandered to. Any parent that panders to or encourages, or willfully medicates, any child under 18 that mistakenly believes they are not the gender they were born as (other than to address genetic or physical deformities – obviously), should be charged with child abuse and their child/children should be taken from them and put with foster parents. It is bad enough that Covid-1984 is going to destroy and entire generation of children, then is no need to allow serious mental health issues and those that encourage and promote this agenda, to destroy even more. The suicide rate among those who have even undergone genital mutilation surgery in a desperate attempt to address their mental problems, should convince everyone that the problem with these folks is between their EARS, not their LEGS!

  193. As MrLiberty says we do not buy horses for people who think they are Napleon Buonoparte. #endthisdiscriminationNOW!

    IN the Ukistan more than 50% get reverse surgery to unchange their gender meaning no money for Incitatus purchasing!

  194. Nachum says:

    The mother is German, right?

  195. @Ron Mexico

    Nice Seinfeld reference. Thanks, Ron!

  196. Michelle says:
    @dfordoom

    I actually would love to have Angelina Jolie’s transgendered daughter, Shiloh Pitt, for my own. She looks exactly like her grandfather, John Voight, and also has asked to be called, “John”. John it is, then!

  197. @Old and Grumpy

    Like that horrible mother in Texas, who has custody of a boy she is determined to mutilate. That’s the worst case I’ve heard in years.

  198. nebulafox says:
    @S. Anonyia

    I’ve listened to the Richard Nixon tapes where he and his staffers discuss homosexuality. At one point in the conversation Nixon describes himself as tolerant. Turns out his attitude behind all the jive talk and pseudo-history was basically “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”. He thinks they were born that way and should be left alone, but that you didn’t glorify homosexuality for the same reason you didn’t glorify prostitution.

    The thing that Millennials/Gen Zers don’t get is that he was probably dead right in the context of 1971, especially among men of his generation. Even in the 1990s, gay marriage was a fringe-left position at best. The societal shift on this has been rapid and severe.

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