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From Real Clear Politics:

“I cannot guarantee everything gets solved in four years, but I guarantee you one thing, it will be a whole heck of a lot better,” he promised about his planned presidency.

“We will move a lot further down the road,” he urged, citing for example: “Why in God’s name don’t we teach history in history classes? A black man invented the light bulb. not a white guy named Edison. Okay? There’s so much. Did anybody know?”

Scrappy underdog Google is working hard to educate Americans about Lewis Howard Latimer, ranking him third all-time when you search for “American inventors.” What did the Wright Brothers ever do? Eight of the top ten American inventors, according to Google are black and Alexander Graham Bell looks from his portrait like he might be black:

But Edison is still #1, so we all have more work to do to abolish the system of White Supremacy in which Thomas Edison is considered America’s most important inventor, such as by voting for Joe.

Strikingly, if you go to Google.MX, Google’s Spanish-language Mexican subsidiary, and search for “inventores Americanos,” you get … ten white guys!

No word yet on whether Biden condemned Brussels Sprouts or said the King of Belgium was worse than Hitler after being Sproutpilled during his meeting today with notorious anti-Sproutite Jacob Blake Sr.

From Biden’s next speech:

“As the great Negro Karl Marx has so nobly written … Who built the Pyramids? Who invented the circulation of the blood? … Africa for the African worker, Europe for the African worker, Asia, Oceania, America, Arctic and Antarctic for the African worker.”

 
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  1. Seems like the guy was a capable self-taught engineer, with satisfactory accomplishments for one lifetime. It’s like with the Hidden Figures lady. The truth is agreeable enough but apparently not enough for them.

    • Replies: @AI Solzhenitsyn
    @Art Deco

    No disrespect for the ladies in "Hidden Figures," but you would do well to take a deeper look at what they really did. This film was a typical Hollyweird film that created something that did not happen. Slide rules and those using them could not do what this film claimed. Has Hollyweird produced a film about Jack Crenshaw, the man that actually did what Hidden Figures claims?

    Funny how these claims are just one more of the "45 Goals of the Communists." The question is is this #17, #21, #32 or another?

    I give credit where it is due, but the party of Jim Crow held blacks back for too long. The president of Harvard spoke at the 25th Anniversary of Tuskegee Institute in 1906. He said this: "By 1905, Tuskegee had produced more self made millionaires than Harvard, Yale and Princeton." Something changed.

    If you use electricity you are using more than one of my grandfather's inventions. His name was not Edison, but his inventions were the basis for the world's power distribution industry. Had Edison beaten Nicola Tesla his inventions would not have been necessary.

  2. I said a while back this guy was bad pick because he would have an election season to gaffe it up.

    Can’t wait to see the MSM spin this one.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @John Johnson


    Can’t wait to see the MSM spin this one.
     
    Well that shouldn't be too hard. They'll just ignore it.
    , @AnotherDad
    @John Johnson

    Biden's bad--ok terrible--but this sort of asininity is baked into the cake.

    Minoritarians chose blacks as their sacred cows, because the oppression of blacks in America could be propagandized to delegitimize white gentiles, our history, our accomplishments and hence majority rule, our republic, our right to govern ourselves in our nation. To be replaced by elite--heavily Jewish, Jewish influenced--diktat in a balkanized marketplace--what's good for the Jews. (Or at least what a lot of Jews think is "good for the Jews".) Dwelling on other minorities isn't so great because there's either no significant "oppression" there (ex. the Jews) or it isn't something that they want us thinking very hard about (the natives losing their land to white invaders).

    The problem is this only works with blacks because they are still "oppressed"--i.e. still not doing as well as whites. But the reason for this--and frankly the reason whites desired segregation--is that blacks just aren't very capable or conscientious, don't particularly excel at "civilization" and haven't accomplished much.

    The plain truth is America actually is a "land of opportunity". So when minoritarians have to pick an "oppressed" people to try and tear that notion down ... they automatically end up with a people who were/are poor at grabbing opportunity, underperformers. (Less politely--are screw-ups.)

    Replies: @Mike_from_SGV

  3. Wait until Boeing gets all those new black engineers. Pyramids will fly again.

    • Thanks: Muggles
    • LOL: Jaroslav Hašek
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    God only knows why Boeing said that. I'd be paranoid to fly. Black males rarely have the white guy fix-it gene. If they had the gene, section 8 housing wouldn't always be torn up. Blacks almost never make or repair anything. They've never been heavily into construction, just picking cotton, rote work on assembly lines, and drug deals. Anyone who remembers the quality of car that GM put out in the 70s with black labor should be aghast. It was normal to find stuff broken the minute you drove them off the car lot. Boeing planes are not assembly-line products. They're need high-quality mechanics, period, or they're going to crash.

    God only knows that Boeing is going to have blacks do. I suspect they're going to lay off so many older whites (who draw the highest salaries) during this Covid year that they'll have 80 white guys and 20 blacks left working for their company.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @anonymous, @AceDeuce

  4. Google is just showing us what history classes will look like in the future.

    Bell will be further darkened and Tesla will have an afro.

    Shockley will be a minor footnote without any links or pictures.

    • Replies: @Ray Huffman
    @John Johnson


    Google is just showing us what history classes will look like in the future.
     
    What future?
  5. • LOL: BB753, El Dato
    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Outrageous.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @JohnnyWalker123

    That is a big bugaboo, Johnny. The Chinese word for "that" is "ni ge" (pin yin, the characters won't do you any good). I am very surprised there have not been any or more shootings at McDonalds as Chinese kids discuss the menu: "I want that, Mama. See that. I want that!"

    Mr. Derbyshire has brought this up more than once. I imagine in his household he hears the n-word regularly, maybe even speaks it.

    Replies: @The Wobbly Guy, @Anononymous

    , @Escher
    @JohnnyWalker123

    This was bound to happen.

    , @Stephen Paul Foster
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Next step: put him on a tall stool in the campus quad with a dunce cap and a placard on his chest that reads "running dog white supremacist" then start beating him with sticks until he confesses and asks for rehabilitation as a gopher translating ebonics for BLM dignitaries.

    , @anon
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The audio is so bad I can't understand what he's saying anyway.

    , @jim jones
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I had a coffee next to a group of Chinese students the other day and every other word was "nigga"

  6. To be fair, BLACKS! invented flying X thousand years before the Wrong Brothers when they constructed the Pyramids via telekinesis, but then them Greek homos stole the knowledge and it was lost to Herstory.

    • LOL: John Johnson
  7. I liked him better when he was plagiarizing.

    Biden 3 16 says I just whipped your abs.
    vein video Vinci.
    If you smell what the Biden is cooking.
    Ein volK Ein Reich.
    what ca gonna do when Biden comes after ewe.?
    is filmed before a live studio audience.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Gianni in Guernsey

    "I liked him better when he was plagiarizing."

    Biden bombed out in the 1987 pre-primary period. He had a speech taken word for word from British Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock. Biden had to drop out. He was a national joke.

    If this was a serious country, he still would be, even more so.

    Replies: @Che Blutarsky, @Harry Baldwin, @Pericles, @SaneClownPosse

    , @anon
    @Gianni in Guernsey

    This is not about Biden. It is about: who is controlling Biden?

  8. Biden- the gift that keeps on giving.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Biden- the gift that keeps on giving.
     
    Yes, enjoy laughing now. Post election it will be you doing the giving if he's elected.

    Kanye 2020!

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  9. This will be like when Joe decided to endorse gay marriage during the 2012 campaign ahead of Obama announcing a change in position on his own. Every Democrat running for office nationwide will rush to affirm the greatness Lewis Latimer and denounce the white supremacist Edison. I wonder how many schools already teach this.

  10. One should add that “classic type” of inventors are mostly gone, like dinos. Tesla was more modern than Edison (theoretical knowledge), but he too is a type of a dino.

    Modern invention is an area of applied science, with highly educated scientists trying to get something new out highly their highly diversified fields. 18th – early 20th C inventors, basically creative & barely educated entrepeneurs -hillbillies are mostly gone.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Edison pretty much invented inventing -- what we call research and development -- as an organized professional activity. That was Edison's meta-invention.

    Replies: @syonredux

  11. Wondering how you did not include a quote from Scoop. Biden isnt the o ly one who is slipping.

    Who invented the circulation of the blood?

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Anon

    I see one has been added.

    “I’m told it’s a very interesting country.”

    Gold!

  12. The first satisfactory light bulb was developed by Swan. Edison lost a patent case against him and then bought him out. Swan was white. Sorry, White.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @dearieme

    Swan stole the idea from Black Genius Latimer . How? Time machine:


    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RgyEH0JLHlg/WDmxO3uyLII/AAAAAAAASkY/-PNvtaMb16cK3Qxb_LOhuUmtumaTarECQCLcB/s1600/The-Time-Machine-1960.jpg

  13. Excerpt of Electric Lighting Taken From the National Enclopedia (1880s)

    http://bulbcollector.com/paper/electriclighting.pdf

    Edison light bulb development time line

    http://www.bulbcollector.com/article018.html

  14. Google had a cartoon of Alexander Dumas (3 Musketeers) that made him look very black. He was 1/4 black via his Grandmother, but period photos show he had the kinky hair but not the skin coloring. We are very much back to the one drop rule. Too bad my Indian tribe is not organized enough, that should be worth some Intersectional Pokémon points. But being a male probably cancels that out.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @The Mad Italian

    Blacks taking pride in Dumas and Dumas the younger (~1/8th black) and Pushkin (1/8th African) seem reasonable to me.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

  15. 1. edison -by his own admission, a quote something like ‘1200 patents, 0 inventions’- was not so much an ‘inventor’, as a marketer, appropriator, and intellectual property theft… he outright stole inventions and ideas both from others and the large groups he had working his labs… a BUNCH of lawsuits against him for all kinds of IP thievery, contracts reneged upon, etc… screwed tesla big time who worked in his lab for a while, and then went on a vendetta against him when tesla championed the much more efficient AC distribution system over edison’s DC systems…
    2. for that matter, alexander graham bell stole an italian’s invention of the telephone, patented in italy way before bell… because of a patent suit the eye-talian brought, he came to america with all his documentation, prototypes, etc, etc, to bring to bear on the lawsuit… and -what are the odds?- ALL his evidence, ALL the records, etc were *somehow* ‘missing’ from the wells fargo office they were shipped to for the eye-talian to pick up to use in his trial… by a funny, weird coinky-kink, alex bell worked in that wells fargo office…
    ok, i’ve all but put the dots a millimeter apart, if you can’t figure out the picture, you’re an idjit…
    3. having said that, the rigged google results on american inventors (not to mention a whole host of other subjects) SHOULD be a scandal and result in some sort of investigation to find out the lying googlers responsible… but as they are serving Empire and the Deep Staters well, nothing will be done about it…

  16. Just looked Latimer up. Although Biden is exaggerating, Latimer was an accomplished person, and I think Biden actually makes a good point.

    We should emphasize the achievements of minorities who might have been overlooked in the past. One of the benefits would be to show the falsehood of the 1619 Narrative. Latimer was the child of slaves who achieved great things in business and science at the turn of the 20th century. The fact that he could do so shows what a great country America is. How many other places in the world would Latimer have been able to do that?

    • Replies: @George
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    He did have an impressive career.

    In 1876, Alexander Graham Bell employed Latimer, then a draftsman at Bell's patent law firm, to draft the necessary drawings required to receive a patent for Bell's telephone.[7]

    In 1879, ...hired as assistant manager and draftsman for the U.S. Electric Lighting Company, a company owned by Hiram Maxim(the machine gun guy), a rival of Thomas A. Edison.

    The light bulb
    Latimer received a patent on January 17, 1882 for the "Process of Manufacturing Carbons", an improved method for the production of lightbulb carbon filaments.[8][9]

    The Edison Electric Light Company in New York City hired Latimer in 1884, as a draftsman and an expert witness in patent litigation on electric lights. While at Edison, Latimer wrote the first book on electric lighting, Incandescent Electric Lighting (1890)[10] and supervised the installation of public electric lights throughout New York, Philadelphia, Montreal, and London.[11] When that company was combined in 1892 with the Thomson-Houston Electric Company to form General Electric, he continued to work in the legal department. In 1911, he became a patent consultant to law firms.[12]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Howard_Latimer

    Replies: @bispora, @O. Zerk

    , @usNthem
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Then the question is, why won’t joggers agree with that? Anything anyone of them has accomplished in this former country is because they were fortunate their Neolithic ancestors were unfortunately (for Whites) shipped here. Nothing they have done to the good has made any real significant difference in our society or culture, but it did allow them to actually make something of themselves.

    , @ScarletNumber
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Since Thomas Edison was one of our most accomplished and famous residents, on behalf of my fellow Garden Staters I am requesting you change your user name.

    , @John Johnson
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Just looked Latimer up. Although Biden is exaggerating, Latimer was an accomplished person, and I think Biden actually makes a good point.

    Biden isn't exaggerating by accident. He knowingly lied like the slimeball politician that he is and isn't used to having cameras on him all the time.

    Like many liberals he believes in lying for the sake of racial equality.

    If he taught history to Black kids he would tell them all kinds of egalitarian fables and punish any White kids that didn't seem submissive. In his mind that is the right thing to do since White people took slaves and ruined Wakanda. It's best to lie to them even if it isn't entirely true. That is how they think. Truth isn't a priority. It's all about the world they want. This is the norm in public schools.

    Replies: @Jane Plain

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    NJ, let's leave it at peanut butter.

    , @Ben tillman
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Biden’s “point” was an outrageous racist lie. So, not a good point.

    , @anon
    @NJ Transit Commuter


    Although Biden is exaggerating, Latimer was an accomplished person, and I think Biden actually makes a good point.
     
    Biden wasn't exaggerating. He was lying. And his lie was in service to making a VERY BAD POINT, namely, slander against White Americans.

    "Lewis Latimer invented the carbon filament in 1881 or 1882? No!
    English chemist/physicist Joseph Swan experimented with a carbon-filament incandescent light all the way back in 1860, and by 1878 had developed a better design which he patented in Britain. On the other side of the Atlantic, Thomas Edison developed a successful carbon-filament bulb, receiving a patent for it (#223898) in January 1880, before Lewis Latimer did any work in electric lighting. From 1880 onward, countless patents were issued for innovations in filament design and manufacture (Edison had over 50 of them). Neither of Latimer's two filament-related patents in 1881 and 1882 were among the most important innovations, nor did they make the light bulb last longer, nor is there reason to believe they were adopted outside Hiram Maxim's company where Latimer worked at the time. (He was not hired by Edison's company until 1884, primarily as a draftsman and an expert witness in patent litigations).

    Latimer also did not come up with the first screw socket for the light bulb or the first book on electric lighting."

    http://www.blackinventionmyths.com/index.html
    , @bomag
    @NJ Transit Commuter


    We should emphasize the achievements of minorities who might have been overlooked in the past. One of the benefits would be to show the falsehood of the 1619 Narrative.
     
    Nice sentiment, but the other side is not interested in establishing any cohesive or accurate historical record. They will just keep on staking out even more absurd positions.
  17. #2 on the Google list is George Washington Carver, who never invented or discovered anything the least bit important. It’s amazing that the guy could become the second greatest American inventor without ever inventing anything even slightly important.

    Even more bizarre is that 3 of the women on the Google list (Marie Van Brittan Brown, Bessie Blount Griffin, and Miriam Benjami) have identical pictures. Isn’t it supposed to be some sort of racist stereotype that all blacks look the same?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Calvin Hobbes

    The hilarious irony is that the entire myth of George Washington Carver, Genius Inventor, can be credited to the efforts of one man.

    That man was Henry Ford, who of course stands ready to be erased from American history due to his record with respect to a different minority.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @art guerrilla
    @Calvin Hobbes

    grrrrrr, do NOT slam on my man geo wash carver, twice the person you are, calvinist...
    .
    regardless of his 'inventions' (which were mostly agricultural products and hybrids of various sorts), his promoting of all kinds of crops -sweet potatoes, and -yes- peanuts- as well as various agricultural practices were INVALUABLE in teaching hardscrabble farmers of all colors how to raise cheap, nutritious, soil-building crops... i dare say his teachings and agricultural practices made the lives of tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of small farmers that much better for his efforts...
    .
    of course, he was a long time teacher as well... i might add, his personal his story is pretty damn incredible, kidnapped by slavers when weeks old, his master tracking them down after a long time, and only getting him back... raised in the 'master's' house, taught to read/write, sent to local school, then -between hourly whippings and beatings, of course- his 'master' paid for him to attend another school some distance away...
    i believe it was then that young George Washington adopted the name of his 'master', Carver...
    .
    his unflappable dignity in addressing a kongress with more than a few racist dickheads who taunted and heckled him, was an inspiration... he simply had no time for racist behaviors, and simply ignored them and went on about his business...
    .
    not necessarily deserving of a top spot of american inventors, but DEFINITELY a top spot among inspirational americans who made a difference, PERIOD...

    Replies: @diconez, @Calvin Hobbes

    , @Calvin Hobbes
    @Calvin Hobbes


    Even more bizarre is that 3 of the women on the Google list (Marie Van Brittan Brown, Bessie Blount Griffin, and Miriam Benjami) have identical pictures. Isn’t it supposed to be some sort of racist stereotype that all blacks look the same?
     
    To see this, click on the “American inventors” link in Steve’s article here and then scroll to the right to see the later entries on Google’s list. The second to last one and the sixth to last one have the same picture, and then you see that same picture again if you scroll back some.

    Replies: @Calvin Hobbes

  18. Biden is going to implement more black history in schools. Well that should make the residents of Kenosha feel better!

  19. Anyone actually educated in science knows Edison didn’t invent the Lightbulb….
    Though he pushed the technology that existed to it’s limit for the time….

    It’s very doubtful he actually developed 10% of the tech he has patents on…
    As he had a Laboratory with dozens of young inventors/scientists…..

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Bolo


    Thomas A. Edison Papers

    http://edison.rutgers.edu/
     
    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Bolo

    Bolo, and Henry Ford didn't invent the automobile. See were I'm going here?

    Replies: @Lurker

  20. @The Mad Italian
    Google had a cartoon of Alexander Dumas (3 Musketeers) that made him look very black. He was 1/4 black via his Grandmother, but period photos show he had the kinky hair but not the skin coloring. We are very much back to the one drop rule. Too bad my Indian tribe is not organized enough, that should be worth some Intersectional Pokémon points. But being a male probably cancels that out.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Blacks taking pride in Dumas and Dumas the younger (~1/8th black) and Pushkin (1/8th African) seem reasonable to me.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Steve Sailer

    Blacks are Dumas material.

    Watch this 30 second commercial.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMe3WDmxBEI

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  21. Are any of google’s inventors as brilliant as Nikola Tesla…..he was an American citizen after all.

  22. @Bardon Kaldian
    One should add that "classic type" of inventors are mostly gone, like dinos. Tesla was more modern than Edison (theoretical knowledge), but he too is a type of a dino.

    Modern invention is an area of applied science, with highly educated scientists trying to get something new out highly their highly diversified fields. 18th - early 20th C inventors, basically creative & barely educated entrepeneurs -hillbillies are mostly gone.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Edison pretty much invented inventing — what we call research and development — as an organized professional activity. That was Edison’s meta-invention.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Steve Sailer

    I tend to think that Edison’s “Genius: one percent inspiration and 99 percent perspiration” quote works against him in terms of popular culture. We have this romantic image of the scientist/inventor as a kind of lonely visionary. Edison, in contrast, was about relentless work. There’s a problem to be solved? Gather a team of smart guys and start finding solutions. In order to solve this problem we need someone with a thorough grounding in mathematics? Hire that Francis Robbins Upton kid that Hermann von Helmholtz thinks so highly of.

    And, as you said, of all the things that Edison invented (the quadruplex telegraph, the phonograph, the carbon microphone,the fluoroscope etc), his role in developing the modern industrial laboratory was probably his most important contribution to science.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  23. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Just looked Latimer up. Although Biden is exaggerating, Latimer was an accomplished person, and I think Biden actually makes a good point.

    We should emphasize the achievements of minorities who might have been overlooked in the past. One of the benefits would be to show the falsehood of the 1619 Narrative. Latimer was the child of slaves who achieved great things in business and science at the turn of the 20th century. The fact that he could do so shows what a great country America is. How many other places in the world would Latimer have been able to do that?

    Replies: @George, @usNthem, @ScarletNumber, @John Johnson, @Buffalo Joe, @Ben tillman, @anon, @bomag

    He did have an impressive career.

    In 1876, Alexander Graham Bell employed Latimer, then a draftsman at Bell’s patent law firm, to draft the necessary drawings required to receive a patent for Bell’s telephone.[7]

    In 1879, …hired as assistant manager and draftsman for the U.S. Electric Lighting Company, a company owned by Hiram Maxim(the machine gun guy), a rival of Thomas A. Edison.

    The light bulb
    Latimer received a patent on January 17, 1882 for the “Process of Manufacturing Carbons”, an improved method for the production of lightbulb carbon filaments.[8][9]

    The Edison Electric Light Company in New York City hired Latimer in 1884, as a draftsman and an expert witness in patent litigation on electric lights. While at Edison, Latimer wrote the first book on electric lighting, Incandescent Electric Lighting (1890)[10] and supervised the installation of public electric lights throughout New York, Philadelphia, Montreal, and London.[11] When that company was combined in 1892 with the Thomson-Houston Electric Company to form General Electric, he continued to work in the legal department. In 1911, he became a patent consultant to law firms.[12]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Howard_Latimer

    • Replies: @bispora
    @George

    And he did have a minimal role in the light bulb invention...

    "English chemist/physicist Joseph Swan experimented with a carbon-filament incandescent light all the way back in 1860, and by 1878 had developed a better design which he patented in Britain. On the other side of the Atlantic, Thomas Edison developed a successful carbon-filament bulb, receiving a patent for it (#223898) in January 1880, before Lewis Latimer did any work in electric lighting. From 1880 onward, countless patents were issued for innovations in filament design and manufacture (Edison had over 50 of them). Neither of Latimer's two filament-related patents in 1881 and 1882 were among the most important innovations, nor did they make the light bulb last longer, nor is there reason to believe they were adopted outside Hiram Maxim's company where Latimer worked at the time. (He was not hired by Edison's company until 1884, primarily as a draftsman and an expert witness in patent litigations)."

    , @O. Zerk
    @George


    While at Edison, Latimer wrote the first book on electric lighting, Incandescent Electric Lighting (1890)
     
    No, not even close.
  24. @Bolo
    Anyone actually educated in science knows Edison didn't invent the Lightbulb....
    Though he pushed the technology that existed to it's limit for the time....

    It's very doubtful he actually developed 10% of the tech he has patents on...
    As he had a Laboratory with dozens of young inventors/scientists.....

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Buffalo Joe

    Thomas A. Edison Papers

    http://edison.rutgers.edu/

  25. I have no idea who wrote the following debunking of black invention myths, and I don’t know that it’s accurate. It seems to have been written by someone knowledgeable, though.

    Black Invention Myths

    https://www.blackinventionmyths.com/

    QUOTE:

    Perhaps you’ve heard the claims: Were it not for the genius and energy of African-American inventors, we might find ourselves in a world without traffic lights, peanut butter, blood banks, light bulb filaments, and a vast number of other things we now take for granted but could hardly imagine life without. Such beliefs usually originate in books or articles about black history. Since many of the authors have little interest in the history of technology outside of advertising black contributions to it, their stories tend to be fraught with misunderstandings, wishful thinking, or fanciful embellishments with no historical basis. The lack of historical perspective leads to extravagant overestimations of originality and importance: sometimes a slightly modified version of a pre-existing piece of technology is mistaken for the first invention of its type; sometimes a patent or innovation with little or no lasting value is portrayed as a major advance, even if there’s no real evidence it was ever used.

    Unfortunately, some of the errors and exaggerations have acquired an illusion of credibility by repetition in mainstream outlets, especially during Black History Month (see examples for the traffic light and ironing board). When myths go unchallenged for too long, they begin to eclipse the truth. Thus I decided to put some records straight. Although this page does not cover every dubious invention claim floating around out there, it should at least serve as a warning never to take any such claim for granted.

    Each item below is listed with its supposed black originator beneath it along with the year it was supposedly invented, followed by something about the real origin of the invention or at least an earlier instance of it.

    • Thanks: bomag, AceDeuce
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Calvin Hobbes

    Black History Month is what all schools are converging towards.

    They will exaggerate everything for the sake of racial equality and anyone who says otherwise is just some weirdo racist being pedantic.

    When the DNA results of the Egyptians came out there were articles by libs on why the test doesn't matter and shouldn't have been done in the first place. They were upset that Egyptians weren't revealed as sub-Saharan African which is what they already knew but didn't want proven.

    The internet is really a nightmare for the left. You have to wonder if they would have invested so heavily into race denial and blank slate in the 60s and 70s if they knew the internet was coming. I've watched some older debates and it seems the leftists then really believed that they would always have the upper hand in controlling information related to race.

    Replies: @usNthem, @lavoisier

    , @Peripatetic Commenter
    @Calvin Hobbes

    And I guess he will tell us that the black nerd in Terminator II didn't invent SkyNet either.

    Sheesh. What a way to dash every little black boy's dreams!

  26. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Just looked Latimer up. Although Biden is exaggerating, Latimer was an accomplished person, and I think Biden actually makes a good point.

    We should emphasize the achievements of minorities who might have been overlooked in the past. One of the benefits would be to show the falsehood of the 1619 Narrative. Latimer was the child of slaves who achieved great things in business and science at the turn of the 20th century. The fact that he could do so shows what a great country America is. How many other places in the world would Latimer have been able to do that?

    Replies: @George, @usNthem, @ScarletNumber, @John Johnson, @Buffalo Joe, @Ben tillman, @anon, @bomag

    Then the question is, why won’t joggers agree with that? Anything anyone of them has accomplished in this former country is because they were fortunate their Neolithic ancestors were unfortunately (for Whites) shipped here. Nothing they have done to the good has made any real significant difference in our society or culture, but it did allow them to actually make something of themselves.

  27. Edison didn’t invent the light bulb either, it was in collaboration with Joseph Swan.

    Furthermore, if there really are all these great black inventors in the past, then how could America have been oppressing blacks and denying them opportunities to succeed? Google and The Libtards can’t have it both ways.

  28. Gotta wonder why SSA is such a SHC with this much talent!!!,

  29. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Just looked Latimer up. Although Biden is exaggerating, Latimer was an accomplished person, and I think Biden actually makes a good point.

    We should emphasize the achievements of minorities who might have been overlooked in the past. One of the benefits would be to show the falsehood of the 1619 Narrative. Latimer was the child of slaves who achieved great things in business and science at the turn of the 20th century. The fact that he could do so shows what a great country America is. How many other places in the world would Latimer have been able to do that?

    Replies: @George, @usNthem, @ScarletNumber, @John Johnson, @Buffalo Joe, @Ben tillman, @anon, @bomag

    Since Thomas Edison was one of our most accomplished and famous residents, on behalf of my fellow Garden Staters I am requesting you change your user name.

  30. If Joe cared about history so much he wouldn’t keep insisting that the light bulb was invented by Americans.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Peter T


    If Joe cared about history so much he wouldn’t keep insisting that the light bulb was invented by Americans.
     
    Edison was half-Canadian. His older siblings were born in Ontario.
  31. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Just looked Latimer up. Although Biden is exaggerating, Latimer was an accomplished person, and I think Biden actually makes a good point.

    We should emphasize the achievements of minorities who might have been overlooked in the past. One of the benefits would be to show the falsehood of the 1619 Narrative. Latimer was the child of slaves who achieved great things in business and science at the turn of the 20th century. The fact that he could do so shows what a great country America is. How many other places in the world would Latimer have been able to do that?

    Replies: @George, @usNthem, @ScarletNumber, @John Johnson, @Buffalo Joe, @Ben tillman, @anon, @bomag

    Just looked Latimer up. Although Biden is exaggerating, Latimer was an accomplished person, and I think Biden actually makes a good point.

    Biden isn’t exaggerating by accident. He knowingly lied like the slimeball politician that he is and isn’t used to having cameras on him all the time.

    Like many liberals he believes in lying for the sake of racial equality.

    If he taught history to Black kids he would tell them all kinds of egalitarian fables and punish any White kids that didn’t seem submissive. In his mind that is the right thing to do since White people took slaves and ruined Wakanda. It’s best to lie to them even if it isn’t entirely true. That is how they think. Truth isn’t a priority. It’s all about the world they want. This is the norm in public schools.

    • Thanks: Jane Plain
    • Replies: @Jane Plain
    @John Johnson

    Whatever happened to his history of plagiarism?

  32. @Anon
    Wondering how you did not include a quote from Scoop. Biden isnt the o ly one who is slipping.

    Who invented the circulation of the blood?

    Replies: @bomag

    I see one has been added.

    “I’m told it’s a very interesting country.”

    Gold!

    • Agree: jim jones
  33. Protesters vandalized mayor’s home as he led board meeting
    Backyard garden smashed up, house egged during police reform discussion

    https://www.oakpark.com/News/Articles/8-27-2020/Protesters-vandalized-mayor’s-home-as-he-led-board-meeting/

    Oak Park, IL lefties getting a dose of their own kind; gee, I wonder if the Cosmopolitan Communists would like to repeat their handgun ban referendum of the 1980s?

  34. @dearieme
    The first satisfactory light bulb was developed by Swan. Edison lost a patent case against him and then bought him out. Swan was white. Sorry, White.

    Replies: @syonredux

    Swan stole the idea from Black Genius Latimer . How? Time machine:

  35. @Steve Sailer
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Edison pretty much invented inventing -- what we call research and development -- as an organized professional activity. That was Edison's meta-invention.

    Replies: @syonredux

    I tend to think that Edison’s “Genius: one percent inspiration and 99 percent perspiration” quote works against him in terms of popular culture. We have this romantic image of the scientist/inventor as a kind of lonely visionary. Edison, in contrast, was about relentless work. There’s a problem to be solved? Gather a team of smart guys and start finding solutions. In order to solve this problem we need someone with a thorough grounding in mathematics? Hire that Francis Robbins Upton kid that Hermann von Helmholtz thinks so highly of.

    And, as you said, of all the things that Edison invented (the quadruplex telegraph, the phonograph, the carbon microphone,the fluoroscope etc), his role in developing the modern industrial laboratory was probably his most important contribution to science.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @syonredux

    Are you sure about that? Edison is rightly famous, but modern R & D type work was, I think, the trademark of genius German chemist Justus von Liebig. He is the father of big organized labs etc., while Edison gets the credit for organization of invention labs, so to speak. And- he was more of an entrepreneur.

    Big collective work on inventing something new is not an outgrowth of Edison type of work, but a natural step in development of big science (A bomb, transistors, ...). Modern invention stems from science, not from curiosity & ingenuity of a gifted, but not very educated individual (Edison didn't understand Maxwell's equations). And, there are cultural differences- inventions which are happening in, say, modern China or Japan have nothing with Edison type of personality.

    Replies: @syonredux

  36. Biden looks and sounds so much creepier with his face mask on!

    • Replies: @BB753
    @BB753

    He also sounds like he's suffocating. "I can't breathe!". Seriously, it's time to put an end to this face mask wearing charade, which is so unhealthy.

  37. @Steve Sailer
    @The Mad Italian

    Blacks taking pride in Dumas and Dumas the younger (~1/8th black) and Pushkin (1/8th African) seem reasonable to me.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    Blacks are Dumas material.

    Watch this 30 second commercial.

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Haha, I wonder if the folks in Dumbass, Texas have seen this. OK, it's Dumas, in the panhandle.

    I may have heard this one from the original songwriter. It was long ago, and I can't remember the guy singing at the bar. This bar was NOT in Texas.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nL4kGzpS_Y

    Replies: @Dmon

  38. @John Johnson
    Google is just showing us what history classes will look like in the future.

    Bell will be further darkened and Tesla will have an afro.

    Shockley will be a minor footnote without any links or pictures.

    Replies: @Ray Huffman

    Google is just showing us what history classes will look like in the future.

    What future?

    • Agree: Ben tillman, Mr McKenna
    • LOL: bomag
  39. Steve,

    Run a Google image search for “Germans” and see what you find.

  40. @Calvin Hobbes
    #2 on the Google list is George Washington Carver, who never invented or discovered anything the least bit important. It’s amazing that the guy could become the second greatest American inventor without ever inventing anything even slightly important.

    Even more bizarre is that 3 of the women on the Google list (Marie Van Brittan Brown, Bessie Blount Griffin, and Miriam Benjami) have identical pictures. Isn’t it supposed to be some sort of racist stereotype that all blacks look the same?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @art guerrilla, @Calvin Hobbes

    The hilarious irony is that the entire myth of George Washington Carver, Genius Inventor, can be credited to the efforts of one man.

    That man was Henry Ford, who of course stands ready to be erased from American history due to his record with respect to a different minority.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    When VP Henry Wallace, a seed geneticist, was a boy, his family was close friends with George Washington Carver.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

  41. @Gianni in Guernsey
    I liked him better when he was plagiarizing.

    Biden 3 16 says I just whipped your abs.
    vein video Vinci.
    If you smell what the Biden is cooking.
    Ein volK Ein Reich.
    what ca gonna do when Biden comes after ewe.?
    is filmed before a live studio audience.

    Replies: @David In TN, @anon

    “I liked him better when he was plagiarizing.”

    Biden bombed out in the 1987 pre-primary period. He had a speech taken word for word from British Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock. Biden had to drop out. He was a national joke.

    If this was a serious country, he still would be, even more so.

    • Replies: @Che Blutarsky
    @David In TN

    If someone had told you in 1987 that Joe Biden would be on the ballot for President in 2020, you would have thought that the country would be a smoldering ruin.

    Replies: @Muggles

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @David In TN

    He was a national joke.

    Biden still is a national joke--a hilarious joke. The problem is that half the country doesn't get it.

    Replies: @David In TN

    , @Pericles
    @David In TN

    One might also say the middle class is a joke these days.

    , @SaneClownPosse
    @David In TN

    The only explanation is that they are using Biden as a carrier to implant the Kamala virus into the White House.

    They had better make sure, in the event Biden wins, that Joe that doesn't announce that he is stepping down before the Inauguration.

    But that would be a historic first for the Republic.

  42. @Peter T
    If Joe cared about history so much he wouldn't keep insisting that the light bulb was invented by Americans.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    If Joe cared about history so much he wouldn’t keep insisting that the light bulb was invented by Americans.

    Edison was half-Canadian. His older siblings were born in Ontario.

  43. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Just looked Latimer up. Although Biden is exaggerating, Latimer was an accomplished person, and I think Biden actually makes a good point.

    We should emphasize the achievements of minorities who might have been overlooked in the past. One of the benefits would be to show the falsehood of the 1619 Narrative. Latimer was the child of slaves who achieved great things in business and science at the turn of the 20th century. The fact that he could do so shows what a great country America is. How many other places in the world would Latimer have been able to do that?

    Replies: @George, @usNthem, @ScarletNumber, @John Johnson, @Buffalo Joe, @Ben tillman, @anon, @bomag

    NJ, let’s leave it at peanut butter.

  44. @Bolo
    Anyone actually educated in science knows Edison didn't invent the Lightbulb....
    Though he pushed the technology that existed to it's limit for the time....

    It's very doubtful he actually developed 10% of the tech he has patents on...
    As he had a Laboratory with dozens of young inventors/scientists.....

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Buffalo Joe

    Bolo, and Henry Ford didn’t invent the automobile. See were I’m going here?

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Buffalo Joe

    No one thinks Henry Ford invented the automobile whereas Edison is widely believed to have invented the light bulb.

  45. I’m going to give Joe a break. Blacks invented sneakers, right?

  46. @Calvin Hobbes
    I have no idea who wrote the following debunking of black invention myths, and I don’t know that it’s accurate. It seems to have been written by someone knowledgeable, though.

    Black Invention Myths

    https://www.blackinventionmyths.com/

    QUOTE:

    Perhaps you've heard the claims: Were it not for the genius and energy of African-American inventors, we might find ourselves in a world without traffic lights, peanut butter, blood banks, light bulb filaments, and a vast number of other things we now take for granted but could hardly imagine life without. Such beliefs usually originate in books or articles about black history. Since many of the authors have little interest in the history of technology outside of advertising black contributions to it, their stories tend to be fraught with misunderstandings, wishful thinking, or fanciful embellishments with no historical basis. The lack of historical perspective leads to extravagant overestimations of originality and importance: sometimes a slightly modified version of a pre-existing piece of technology is mistaken for the first invention of its type; sometimes a patent or innovation with little or no lasting value is portrayed as a major advance, even if there's no real evidence it was ever used.

    Unfortunately, some of the errors and exaggerations have acquired an illusion of credibility by repetition in mainstream outlets, especially during Black History Month (see examples for the traffic light and ironing board). When myths go unchallenged for too long, they begin to eclipse the truth. Thus I decided to put some records straight. Although this page does not cover every dubious invention claim floating around out there, it should at least serve as a warning never to take any such claim for granted.

    Each item below is listed with its supposed black originator beneath it along with the year it was supposedly invented, followed by something about the real origin of the invention or at least an earlier instance of it.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Peripatetic Commenter

    Black History Month is what all schools are converging towards.

    They will exaggerate everything for the sake of racial equality and anyone who says otherwise is just some weirdo racist being pedantic.

    When the DNA results of the Egyptians came out there were articles by libs on why the test doesn’t matter and shouldn’t have been done in the first place. They were upset that Egyptians weren’t revealed as sub-Saharan African which is what they already knew but didn’t want proven.

    The internet is really a nightmare for the left. You have to wonder if they would have invested so heavily into race denial and blank slate in the 60s and 70s if they knew the internet was coming. I’ve watched some older debates and it seems the leftists then really believed that they would always have the upper hand in controlling information related to race.

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @usNthem
    @John Johnson

    Maybe black history eternity.

    , @lavoisier
    @John Johnson


    When the DNA results of the Egyptians came out there were articles by libs on why the test doesn’t matter and shouldn’t have been done in the first place. They were upset that Egyptians weren’t revealed as sub-Saharan African which is what they already knew but didn’t want proven.
     
    I was actually surprised that Nature even published this scientific paper in 2017. I am sure it is NOT required reading in any of the prestigious African history or Egyptology programs across the land of the free and the home of the brave.

    I really doubt that with all the race denialism in the news today whether this article would be published today. The editors of Nature and many other prominent science journals have been imbibing quite a bit of the egalitarian Kool-Aid, and it takes a certain amount of courage and intellectual honesty to present scientific findings that challenge the narrative..

    Even the hard sciences are being corrupted by the "woke."

  47. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/cabot_phillips/status/1301516424276578305

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @Achmed E. Newman, @Escher, @Stephen Paul Foster, @anon, @jim jones

    Outrageous.

  48. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/cabot_phillips/status/1301516424276578305

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @Achmed E. Newman, @Escher, @Stephen Paul Foster, @anon, @jim jones

    That is a big bugaboo, Johnny. The Chinese word for “that” is “ni ge” (pin yin, the characters won’t do you any good). I am very surprised there have not been any or more shootings at McDonalds as Chinese kids discuss the menu: “I want that, Mama. See that. I want that!”

    Mr. Derbyshire has brought this up more than once. I imagine in his household he hears the n-word regularly, maybe even speaks it.

    • Replies: @The Wobbly Guy
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The correct pinyin is na4 ge4. It just means 'that', e.g. na4 ge4 man4 - that's slow, but can also be used as a self mutter of sorts, like blah blah blah.

    , @Anononymous
    @Achmed E. Newman

    "That is a big bugaboo, Johnny. The Chinese word for “that” is “ni ge”"

    No. It's not. It's "nei ge". Pronounced "nay/neigh guh".

    Being wrong is not helpful.

    Black people sho' be sensitive.

  49. Meanwhile, black scientists are working around the clock to have a cure for dementia ready by the 3rd of November.

  50. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Just looked Latimer up. Although Biden is exaggerating, Latimer was an accomplished person, and I think Biden actually makes a good point.

    We should emphasize the achievements of minorities who might have been overlooked in the past. One of the benefits would be to show the falsehood of the 1619 Narrative. Latimer was the child of slaves who achieved great things in business and science at the turn of the 20th century. The fact that he could do so shows what a great country America is. How many other places in the world would Latimer have been able to do that?

    Replies: @George, @usNthem, @ScarletNumber, @John Johnson, @Buffalo Joe, @Ben tillman, @anon, @bomag

    Biden’s “point” was an outrageous racist lie. So, not a good point.

  51. @Calvin Hobbes
    #2 on the Google list is George Washington Carver, who never invented or discovered anything the least bit important. It’s amazing that the guy could become the second greatest American inventor without ever inventing anything even slightly important.

    Even more bizarre is that 3 of the women on the Google list (Marie Van Brittan Brown, Bessie Blount Griffin, and Miriam Benjami) have identical pictures. Isn’t it supposed to be some sort of racist stereotype that all blacks look the same?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @art guerrilla, @Calvin Hobbes

    grrrrrr, do NOT slam on my man geo wash carver, twice the person you are, calvinist…
    .
    regardless of his ‘inventions’ (which were mostly agricultural products and hybrids of various sorts), his promoting of all kinds of crops -sweet potatoes, and -yes- peanuts- as well as various agricultural practices were INVALUABLE in teaching hardscrabble farmers of all colors how to raise cheap, nutritious, soil-building crops… i dare say his teachings and agricultural practices made the lives of tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of small farmers that much better for his efforts…
    .
    of course, he was a long time teacher as well… i might add, his personal his story is pretty damn incredible, kidnapped by slavers when weeks old, his master tracking them down after a long time, and only getting him back… raised in the ‘master’s’ house, taught to read/write, sent to local school, then -between hourly whippings and beatings, of course- his ‘master’ paid for him to attend another school some distance away…
    i believe it was then that young George Washington adopted the name of his ‘master’, Carver…
    .
    his unflappable dignity in addressing a kongress with more than a few racist dickheads who taunted and heckled him, was an inspiration… he simply had no time for racist behaviors, and simply ignored them and went on about his business…
    .
    not necessarily deserving of a top spot of american inventors, but DEFINITELY a top spot among inspirational americans who made a difference, PERIOD…

    • Agree: Muggles, FPD72
    • Replies: @diconez
    @art guerrilla

    good for him. although the point was, Biden exaggerated and lied to put down whites.
    if only such as Carver were more than 10% of their people.

    , @Calvin Hobbes
    @art guerrilla


    not necessarily deserving of a top spot of american inventors, but DEFINITELY a top spot among inspirational americans who made a difference, PERIOD…
     
    I think GW Carver should be celebrated as an inspirational American. Saying he was a great inventor is just a lie, though. I think that Google listing him as #2 among American inventors is a good thing, because it’s such an obvious example of how we’re being lied to.
  52. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Steve Sailer

    Blacks are Dumas material.

    Watch this 30 second commercial.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMe3WDmxBEI

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Haha, I wonder if the folks in Dumbass, Texas have seen this. OK, it’s Dumas, in the panhandle.

    I may have heard this one from the original songwriter. It was long ago, and I can’t remember the guy singing at the bar. This bar was NOT in Texas.

    • Replies: @Dmon
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Bob Wills is still the king.
    https://youtu.be/I-ebUB5KZvA

  53. OT the career criminal Portland shooter who murdered a Trump supporter is not only still walking around free, he is giving interviews to Vice.
    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v7g8vb/man-linked-to-killing-at-a-portland-protest-says-he-acted-in-self-defense

    • Thanks: Mr McKenna
  54. OT: From the flame fanning desk of the Mpls Star Tribune.

    https://www.startribune.com/questions-remain-about-attacks-reportedly-by-white-supremacists-during-george-floyd-riots/572312312/

    From the ridiculous:

    Late one night a few weeks after George Floyd was killed by Minneapolis police, a loud knocking came on Jaquita Morris’ door, and two of her sons tumbled into the family’s North Side home.

    But her annoyance turned to shock, then anger when the boys, 19 and 14, told her they were waiting for a bus to their older brother’s house when they saw two white men wearing all-white “KKK gear” appear from behind a bush and start running after the terrified teenagers before they reached safety.

    To the Sublime:

    “It’s not really like folks are carrying membership cards or wearing hoods or things like that to easily identify themselves as being white nationalists or white supremacists or extremists,” said White, a public safety aide for Mayor Jacob Frey. “It’s almost like racism: when you’re experiencing biased behavior or racist behavior ­— there aren’t [always] things that indicate it, but you just know it.”

    So racism, isn’t like pornography. Seeing it is NOT a prerequisite, to get on with the knowing it. Watch for that reasoning in a future Supreme Court ruling.

    Note, I think the Black government government official quoted above is named White, so it’s ok to capitalize it.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Staff Sgt. Terry Tickles


    Note, I think the Black government government official quoted above is named White, so it’s ok to capitalize it.
     
    Thanks for noting that. The Sailor Commentatoriat was about to issue you the mandatory demerit for it.

    Such transgressions are taken very seriously. You could be omitted from the Sailor seaside mansion Christmas Party and Stroll if you collect too many demerits. This years' event promise to be the most pandemic ever!
    , @Patrick in SC
    @Staff Sgt. Terry Tickles

    Holy crap that is bad.

    Wasn't the Star Tribune once a serious newspaper? Liberal, yes, but with at least some degree of adult skepticism about the world.

    This is like reporting about the famous incident in the late 30s where Orson Welles' radio broadcast of War of the Worlds caused a panic amongst a few gullible listeners, and then saying, "There are still unanswered questions about the events of that night."

    "Unanswered questions" is a version of the liberal weasel position when they have no evidence: "This raises questions."

  55. I thought the traditional light bulb with filaments were Evil.

  56. @David In TN
    @Gianni in Guernsey

    "I liked him better when he was plagiarizing."

    Biden bombed out in the 1987 pre-primary period. He had a speech taken word for word from British Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock. Biden had to drop out. He was a national joke.

    If this was a serious country, he still would be, even more so.

    Replies: @Che Blutarsky, @Harry Baldwin, @Pericles, @SaneClownPosse

    If someone had told you in 1987 that Joe Biden would be on the ballot for President in 2020, you would have thought that the country would be a smoldering ruin.

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Che Blutarsky


    If someone had told you in 1987 that Joe Biden would be on the ballot for President in 2020, you would have thought that the country would be a smoldering ruin.
     
    Be patient. It's getting there.
  57. @Anonymous
    @Calvin Hobbes

    The hilarious irony is that the entire myth of George Washington Carver, Genius Inventor, can be credited to the efforts of one man.

    That man was Henry Ford, who of course stands ready to be erased from American history due to his record with respect to a different minority.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    When VP Henry Wallace, a seed geneticist, was a boy, his family was close friends with George Washington Carver.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    When VP Henry Wallace, a seed geneticist, was a boy, his family was close friends with George Washington Carver.
     
    Wallace received almost as many votes in 1948 as did Strom Thurmond, 1,157,328 (2.37%) vs. 1,175,930 (2.41%). But it was spread among the 45 states where he was balloted. Thurmond only ran in 17, but won four of them outright, for 38 electors, plus a stray "faithless". It was kind of a preview of the Wallace and Perot runs.

    You'd think a seed geneticist could figure out the Electoral College. Barry Commoner, a cellular biologist, did even worse in 1980, though the unlucky name "Barry" didn't help either.

    Or maybe Americans just don't want to put scientists in charge.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Servant of Gla'aki

    , @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    But it was Ford who waged the PR campaign to bring GWC to national view in the first place. Ford recognized a fellow legume-as-industrial-material fanatic in Carver (soybeans for Ford, peanuts for GWC). Neither's chimurgy visions panned out--they just couldn't foresee how much cheaper and more versatile petroleum-based plastics would be.

    Actually, Ford was kind of a wokester _avant le lettre_ in a lot of ways. He was a big promoter of the Great Migration, never had a color bar in hiring, and, when his black workers encountered friction on the factory floor, he tended to segregate them in areas of responsibility: all-black foundries, all-black machine shops etc. Oh, and a criminal record was no disqualifier for employment for him--he hated prisons in general, as well as capital punishment. He wanted to defund the penal system as a waste of time.

    One of his biggest plans was for a huge industrial complex to be built in the 1920s at Muscle Shoals, complete with model workers' communities and model housing. A Rouge River of Dixie. The local boosters *loved* it and tried to join Ford's efforts at lobbying Congress for subsidies.

    ...Until they realized that Ford intended those communities to be completely integrated.

  58. @Bardon Kaldian
    Biden- the gift that keeps on giving.

    Replies: @Muggles

    Biden- the gift that keeps on giving.

    Yes, enjoy laughing now. Post election it will be you doing the giving if he’s elected.

    Kanye 2020!

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Muggles

    Yes, enjoy laughing now. Post election it will be you doing the giving if he’s elected.

    If one is Croatian as Bardon is, it's funny. Similarly, we (or at least I) find Ramzan Akhmadovich Kadyrov, the Man with the Golden Gun & President of Chechnya, hilarious. I suspect if I lived in Grozny he would strike me as more menacing and less funny. As the old Yiddish expression goes "Ikh volt oykh gelakht verd der na'ar nisht meyner" = "I too would be laughing were the fool not my own child."

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @International Jew

  59. @art guerrilla
    @Calvin Hobbes

    grrrrrr, do NOT slam on my man geo wash carver, twice the person you are, calvinist...
    .
    regardless of his 'inventions' (which were mostly agricultural products and hybrids of various sorts), his promoting of all kinds of crops -sweet potatoes, and -yes- peanuts- as well as various agricultural practices were INVALUABLE in teaching hardscrabble farmers of all colors how to raise cheap, nutritious, soil-building crops... i dare say his teachings and agricultural practices made the lives of tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of small farmers that much better for his efforts...
    .
    of course, he was a long time teacher as well... i might add, his personal his story is pretty damn incredible, kidnapped by slavers when weeks old, his master tracking them down after a long time, and only getting him back... raised in the 'master's' house, taught to read/write, sent to local school, then -between hourly whippings and beatings, of course- his 'master' paid for him to attend another school some distance away...
    i believe it was then that young George Washington adopted the name of his 'master', Carver...
    .
    his unflappable dignity in addressing a kongress with more than a few racist dickheads who taunted and heckled him, was an inspiration... he simply had no time for racist behaviors, and simply ignored them and went on about his business...
    .
    not necessarily deserving of a top spot of american inventors, but DEFINITELY a top spot among inspirational americans who made a difference, PERIOD...

    Replies: @diconez, @Calvin Hobbes

    good for him. although the point was, Biden exaggerated and lied to put down whites.
    if only such as Carver were more than 10% of their people.

  60. @Staff Sgt. Terry Tickles
    OT: From the flame fanning desk of the Mpls Star Tribune.

    https://www.startribune.com/questions-remain-about-attacks-reportedly-by-white-supremacists-during-george-floyd-riots/572312312/

    From the ridiculous:

    Late one night a few weeks after George Floyd was killed by Minneapolis police, a loud knocking came on Jaquita Morris’ door, and two of her sons tumbled into the family’s North Side home.

    But her annoyance turned to shock, then anger when the boys, 19 and 14, told her they were waiting for a bus to their older brother’s house when they saw two white men wearing all-white “KKK gear” appear from behind a bush and start running after the terrified teenagers before they reached safety.
     
    To the Sublime:

    “It’s not really like folks are carrying membership cards or wearing hoods or things like that to easily identify themselves as being white nationalists or white supremacists or extremists,” said White, a public safety aide for Mayor Jacob Frey. “It’s almost like racism: when you’re experiencing biased behavior or racist behavior ­— there aren’t [always] things that indicate it, but you just know it.”
     
    So racism, isn't like pornography. Seeing it is NOT a prerequisite, to get on with the knowing it. Watch for that reasoning in a future Supreme Court ruling.

    Note, I think the Black government government official quoted above is named White, so it's ok to capitalize it.

    Replies: @Muggles, @Patrick in SC

    Note, I think the Black government government official quoted above is named White, so it’s ok to capitalize it.

    Thanks for noting that. The Sailor Commentatoriat was about to issue you the mandatory demerit for it.

    Such transgressions are taken very seriously. You could be omitted from the Sailor seaside mansion Christmas Party and Stroll if you collect too many demerits. This years’ event promise to be the most pandemic ever!

  61. @Che Blutarsky
    @David In TN

    If someone had told you in 1987 that Joe Biden would be on the ballot for President in 2020, you would have thought that the country would be a smoldering ruin.

    Replies: @Muggles

    If someone had told you in 1987 that Joe Biden would be on the ballot for President in 2020, you would have thought that the country would be a smoldering ruin.

    Be patient. It’s getting there.

  62. This is gonna be tough, but White folks are going to have to face facts. Blacks invented everything. Heck, Blacks even invented White people:

    • Replies: @usNthem
    @syonredux

    They, at least the very few sentient ones, believe it, so like the great wakanda, it must be true.

  63. So, Shockley not there cause he was a racis, was Bardeen another unspeakable.

    Madam Walker, I think, was famous for hair straightening; I’m not sure this makes you one of the greatest American inventors.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Malcolm Y

    Walker also stole her "idea" from another groid woman she used to work for. LOL.

  64. @Achmed E. Newman
    @JohnnyWalker123

    That is a big bugaboo, Johnny. The Chinese word for "that" is "ni ge" (pin yin, the characters won't do you any good). I am very surprised there have not been any or more shootings at McDonalds as Chinese kids discuss the menu: "I want that, Mama. See that. I want that!"

    Mr. Derbyshire has brought this up more than once. I imagine in his household he hears the n-word regularly, maybe even speaks it.

    Replies: @The Wobbly Guy, @Anononymous

    The correct pinyin is na4 ge4. It just means ‘that’, e.g. na4 ge4 man4 – that’s slow, but can also be used as a self mutter of sorts, like blah blah blah.

  65. “Black people” had a what? – 2 million year head start on white people when they came down from the mothership. The development since then is largely the product of white people.

  66. @art guerrilla
    @Calvin Hobbes

    grrrrrr, do NOT slam on my man geo wash carver, twice the person you are, calvinist...
    .
    regardless of his 'inventions' (which were mostly agricultural products and hybrids of various sorts), his promoting of all kinds of crops -sweet potatoes, and -yes- peanuts- as well as various agricultural practices were INVALUABLE in teaching hardscrabble farmers of all colors how to raise cheap, nutritious, soil-building crops... i dare say his teachings and agricultural practices made the lives of tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of small farmers that much better for his efforts...
    .
    of course, he was a long time teacher as well... i might add, his personal his story is pretty damn incredible, kidnapped by slavers when weeks old, his master tracking them down after a long time, and only getting him back... raised in the 'master's' house, taught to read/write, sent to local school, then -between hourly whippings and beatings, of course- his 'master' paid for him to attend another school some distance away...
    i believe it was then that young George Washington adopted the name of his 'master', Carver...
    .
    his unflappable dignity in addressing a kongress with more than a few racist dickheads who taunted and heckled him, was an inspiration... he simply had no time for racist behaviors, and simply ignored them and went on about his business...
    .
    not necessarily deserving of a top spot of american inventors, but DEFINITELY a top spot among inspirational americans who made a difference, PERIOD...

    Replies: @diconez, @Calvin Hobbes

    not necessarily deserving of a top spot of american inventors, but DEFINITELY a top spot among inspirational americans who made a difference, PERIOD…

    I think GW Carver should be celebrated as an inspirational American. Saying he was a great inventor is just a lie, though. I think that Google listing him as #2 among American inventors is a good thing, because it’s such an obvious example of how we’re being lied to.

  67. So how much mendacious flattery will it take before they are finally satisfied, and join the community of law-abiding, self-controlled people? Are we near Peak-Buttkiss?

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    @Anon

    We need to give black people a planet of their own to prove how brilliant and resourceful they are.

    Mars would be good.

    No white scientists or engineers allowed to touch anything to do with the project.

    Let them show us their stuff!

    (No, white folks don't get to make the body bags, either.....)

    Replies: @bruce county

  68. @John Johnson
    @Calvin Hobbes

    Black History Month is what all schools are converging towards.

    They will exaggerate everything for the sake of racial equality and anyone who says otherwise is just some weirdo racist being pedantic.

    When the DNA results of the Egyptians came out there were articles by libs on why the test doesn't matter and shouldn't have been done in the first place. They were upset that Egyptians weren't revealed as sub-Saharan African which is what they already knew but didn't want proven.

    The internet is really a nightmare for the left. You have to wonder if they would have invested so heavily into race denial and blank slate in the 60s and 70s if they knew the internet was coming. I've watched some older debates and it seems the leftists then really believed that they would always have the upper hand in controlling information related to race.

    Replies: @usNthem, @lavoisier

    Maybe black history eternity.

  69. @syonredux
    This is gonna be tough, but White folks are going to have to face facts. Blacks invented everything. Heck, Blacks even invented White people:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0viDHSASc4

    Replies: @usNthem

    They, at least the very few sentient ones, believe it, so like the great wakanda, it must be true.

  70. @Achmed E. Newman
    @JohnnyWalker123

    That is a big bugaboo, Johnny. The Chinese word for "that" is "ni ge" (pin yin, the characters won't do you any good). I am very surprised there have not been any or more shootings at McDonalds as Chinese kids discuss the menu: "I want that, Mama. See that. I want that!"

    Mr. Derbyshire has brought this up more than once. I imagine in his household he hears the n-word regularly, maybe even speaks it.

    Replies: @The Wobbly Guy, @Anononymous

    “That is a big bugaboo, Johnny. The Chinese word for “that” is “ni ge””

    No. It’s not. It’s “nei ge”. Pronounced “nay/neigh guh”.

    Being wrong is not helpful.

    Black people sho’ be sensitive.

  71. Talented tenther! Probably had an IQ of 120 or higher. Latimer definitely deserves recognition as a contributor to human progress, whether or not he actually invented the light bulb. A genuine American success story. How come Lefties don’t focus more on blacks like him? Oh sorry, I forgot–they’re interested in black losers ‘cuz that emphasizes the narrative of “systemic racism” and blah-blah-blah. In their alternate universe the US is Evil, along with the rest of Western Civ.

  72. Looking nothing like that weird picture on Google, Don Ameche played Alexander Graham Bell in the 1939 biopic. But I guess there’ll be a Will Smith remake in the works pretty soon

  73. anonymous[218] • Disclaimer says:

    Edison stealing from Latimer is nothing. I’m quite frankly offended and disgusted that Biden didn’t mention the fact of Negroes getting to the moon before us whites, and not getting no credit. Get with history, man! It’s all there on Youtube, man!

    Google buried this documentary in racist algorithms, but for those who haven’t seen it, watch this, and YOU be the judge! Maybe Tiny Duck ISN’T so crazy!

  74. @John Johnson
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Just looked Latimer up. Although Biden is exaggerating, Latimer was an accomplished person, and I think Biden actually makes a good point.

    Biden isn't exaggerating by accident. He knowingly lied like the slimeball politician that he is and isn't used to having cameras on him all the time.

    Like many liberals he believes in lying for the sake of racial equality.

    If he taught history to Black kids he would tell them all kinds of egalitarian fables and punish any White kids that didn't seem submissive. In his mind that is the right thing to do since White people took slaves and ruined Wakanda. It's best to lie to them even if it isn't entirely true. That is how they think. Truth isn't a priority. It's all about the world they want. This is the norm in public schools.

    Replies: @Jane Plain

    Whatever happened to his history of plagiarism?

  75. @Muggles
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Biden- the gift that keeps on giving.
     
    Yes, enjoy laughing now. Post election it will be you doing the giving if he's elected.

    Kanye 2020!

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Yes, enjoy laughing now. Post election it will be you doing the giving if he’s elected.

    If one is Croatian as Bardon is, it’s funny. Similarly, we (or at least I) find Ramzan Akhmadovich Kadyrov, the Man with the Golden Gun & President of Chechnya, hilarious. I suspect if I lived in Grozny he would strike me as more menacing and less funny. As the old Yiddish expression goes “Ikh volt oykh gelakht verd der na’ar nisht meyner” = “I too would be laughing were the fool not my own child.”

    • Thanks: Muggles
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @kaganovitch


    If one is Croatian as Bardon is, it’s funny.
     
    Real Croatian, as in he lives there? Can he help me and my family get permanent legal residency? I really need to start being nicer to that guy. Have I mentioned how wonderful he is, btw?

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    , @International Jew
    @kaganovitch

    It's nar, not na'ar.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  76. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/cabot_phillips/status/1301516424276578305

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @Achmed E. Newman, @Escher, @Stephen Paul Foster, @anon, @jim jones

    This was bound to happen.

  77. anonymous[218] • Disclaimer says:

    True Fact!

    Edward Makuka Nkoloso of Zambia had dreams to land Zambians on moon and mars beating the US and USSR in the Space race. He did everything he could with his limited resources to make his dream a reality but could he fulfill his dreams?

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @anonymous

    They were also going to launch the first space mission to the sun.

    Don't worry, they were going at night.

    , @BB753
    @anonymous

    Sadly, I fear that NASA will be a lot like the Zambian space program in two generations or so.

    Replies: @bruce county

  78. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    When VP Henry Wallace, a seed geneticist, was a boy, his family was close friends with George Washington Carver.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    When VP Henry Wallace, a seed geneticist, was a boy, his family was close friends with George Washington Carver.

    Wallace received almost as many votes in 1948 as did Strom Thurmond, 1,157,328 (2.37%) vs. 1,175,930 (2.41%). But it was spread among the 45 states where he was balloted. Thurmond only ran in 17, but won four of them outright, for 38 electors, plus a stray “faithless”. It was kind of a preview of the Wallace and Perot runs.

    You’d think a seed geneticist could figure out the Electoral College. Barry Commoner, a cellular biologist, did even worse in 1980, though the unlucky name “Barry” didn’t help either.

    Or maybe Americans just don’t want to put scientists in charge.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @Reg Cæsar


    Americans just don’t want to put scientists in charge.
     
    Speaks well of them. Really smart scientists generally realize that they're really smart about science. Mediocre scientists think they're really smart about everything.
    , @Servant of Gla'aki
    @Reg Cæsar


    You’d think a seed geneticist could figure out the Electoral College. Barry Commoner, a cellular biologist, did even worse in 1980, though the unlucky name “Barry” didn’t help either.
     
    My father, and his best friend (who was the retired chairman of the Sociology department at UCLA), both voted for Commoner that night, on a whim. I have never come across any other person who claims to have done that. It's 40 years later, so I probably never will.
  79. anon[218] • Disclaimer says:

    Edison developed a commercially successful lightbulb and then developed the infrastructure and then founded the General Electric Company to successfully promote electrification in the US.

    The idea of the electric light bulb? Who knows, and how important is it. I’m suppose the thought occurred to Benjamin Franklin. Leonardo Di Vinci sketched the helicopter.

    The electric car isn’t an especially new or interesting idea. However developing and selling hundreds of thousands of them is both interesting and remarkable.* Some historian might be able to find an aspect of early 20th century electric car development that could be attributed to a black engineer who could then be promoted as the ‘inventor” of the Tesla automobile.

    * Automobile manufacturing is an especially bad business. An investor that bought shares in GM, Ford and Chrysler in 1920 and patiently held them 100 years would have ended up with roughly $0. Warren Buffett has remarked about the difficulty of successfully investing in automobile manufacturing.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @anon

    An investor that bought shares in GM, Ford and Chrysler in 1920 and patiently held them 100 years would have ended up with roughly $0.

    Ford only went public in 1956. If you bought it then and reinvested dividends you outperformed the S&P by a couple of points over the same period. A handsome appreciation indeed! I think Buffett was talking about the airline industry when he said it's total historical return was approximately zero

    , @AI Solzhenitsyn
    @anon

    Debbie Dingell's family made out big when it sold Fisher Body to GM in about 1925. Also, not to take anything from Edison, don't forget his head butting with Nicola Tesla. Edison made out big time, but the man that enabled the mass distribution of electricity, Tesla, did not, because he all but gave away his patents. DC would never have worked, and as I said elsewhere on this page, my grandfather's inventions were the basis of the World's power distribution industry. Things like transformers made necessary because Tesla won.

    Don't hold your breath on mass electric cars. All the more if New Green Deal folks win. Solar and win will never provide enough power and guess who controls the materials for batteries and solar panels? It was in that country that Biden encouraged the Communist Chinese Party to exercise great influence in the United States.

    Our grid can not support all electric cars and if AOC has her way you'll have no coal, gas or nuclear to provide the electricity. BTW, Bill Clinton was bailed out by the Riady Bros who control coal, when he was governor.

  80. Note that Bidet’s in a Lutheran church. They’ve gone battier than a Chinese virologist standing knee-deep in cave guano.

  81. @Calvin Hobbes
    I have no idea who wrote the following debunking of black invention myths, and I don’t know that it’s accurate. It seems to have been written by someone knowledgeable, though.

    Black Invention Myths

    https://www.blackinventionmyths.com/

    QUOTE:

    Perhaps you've heard the claims: Were it not for the genius and energy of African-American inventors, we might find ourselves in a world without traffic lights, peanut butter, blood banks, light bulb filaments, and a vast number of other things we now take for granted but could hardly imagine life without. Such beliefs usually originate in books or articles about black history. Since many of the authors have little interest in the history of technology outside of advertising black contributions to it, their stories tend to be fraught with misunderstandings, wishful thinking, or fanciful embellishments with no historical basis. The lack of historical perspective leads to extravagant overestimations of originality and importance: sometimes a slightly modified version of a pre-existing piece of technology is mistaken for the first invention of its type; sometimes a patent or innovation with little or no lasting value is portrayed as a major advance, even if there's no real evidence it was ever used.

    Unfortunately, some of the errors and exaggerations have acquired an illusion of credibility by repetition in mainstream outlets, especially during Black History Month (see examples for the traffic light and ironing board). When myths go unchallenged for too long, they begin to eclipse the truth. Thus I decided to put some records straight. Although this page does not cover every dubious invention claim floating around out there, it should at least serve as a warning never to take any such claim for granted.

    Each item below is listed with its supposed black originator beneath it along with the year it was supposedly invented, followed by something about the real origin of the invention or at least an earlier instance of it.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Peripatetic Commenter

    And I guess he will tell us that the black nerd in Terminator II didn’t invent SkyNet either.

    Sheesh. What a way to dash every little black boy’s dreams!

  82. @Staff Sgt. Terry Tickles
    OT: From the flame fanning desk of the Mpls Star Tribune.

    https://www.startribune.com/questions-remain-about-attacks-reportedly-by-white-supremacists-during-george-floyd-riots/572312312/

    From the ridiculous:

    Late one night a few weeks after George Floyd was killed by Minneapolis police, a loud knocking came on Jaquita Morris’ door, and two of her sons tumbled into the family’s North Side home.

    But her annoyance turned to shock, then anger when the boys, 19 and 14, told her they were waiting for a bus to their older brother’s house when they saw two white men wearing all-white “KKK gear” appear from behind a bush and start running after the terrified teenagers before they reached safety.
     
    To the Sublime:

    “It’s not really like folks are carrying membership cards or wearing hoods or things like that to easily identify themselves as being white nationalists or white supremacists or extremists,” said White, a public safety aide for Mayor Jacob Frey. “It’s almost like racism: when you’re experiencing biased behavior or racist behavior ­— there aren’t [always] things that indicate it, but you just know it.”
     
    So racism, isn't like pornography. Seeing it is NOT a prerequisite, to get on with the knowing it. Watch for that reasoning in a future Supreme Court ruling.

    Note, I think the Black government government official quoted above is named White, so it's ok to capitalize it.

    Replies: @Muggles, @Patrick in SC

    Holy crap that is bad.

    Wasn’t the Star Tribune once a serious newspaper? Liberal, yes, but with at least some degree of adult skepticism about the world.

    This is like reporting about the famous incident in the late 30s where Orson Welles’ radio broadcast of War of the Worlds caused a panic amongst a few gullible listeners, and then saying, “There are still unanswered questions about the events of that night.”

    “Unanswered questions” is a version of the liberal weasel position when they have no evidence: “This raises questions.”

  83. Anon[735] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kolya Krassotkin
    Wait until Boeing gets all those new black engineers. Pyramids will fly again.

    Replies: @Anon

    God only knows why Boeing said that. I’d be paranoid to fly. Black males rarely have the white guy fix-it gene. If they had the gene, section 8 housing wouldn’t always be torn up. Blacks almost never make or repair anything. They’ve never been heavily into construction, just picking cotton, rote work on assembly lines, and drug deals. Anyone who remembers the quality of car that GM put out in the 70s with black labor should be aghast. It was normal to find stuff broken the minute you drove them off the car lot. Boeing planes are not assembly-line products. They’re need high-quality mechanics, period, or they’re going to crash.

    God only knows that Boeing is going to have blacks do. I suspect they’re going to lay off so many older whites (who draw the highest salaries) during this Covid year that they’ll have 80 white guys and 20 blacks left working for their company.

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @Anon

    What about that Rich Rebuilds guy who pieces together Tesla cars from pairs of wrecked ones?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZptvOUXBkdY

    Replies: @bomag

    , @anonymous
    @Anon


    Anyone who remembers the quality of car that GM put out in the 70s with black labor should be aghast.
     
    I had a friend who was a very low level GM executive, and I got to meet a few floor managers and some workers, who were white. I was astonished that people who were that stupid were making $90K a year, plus benefits. Even they knew they were too stupid to ever make that kind of money outside of their job, many acquired by nepotism only. Nothing to do with merit.

    I'm talking guys with IQ's that must have been between 85-90. Whatever turned GM shitty, it wasn't from hiring black folks. They would be incidental to the machinations of the upper echelon at GM trying to fashion a profit model around evil Unions.

    I was hoping Obama would let the company fail as an object lesson to others, but... he didn't.
    , @AceDeuce
    @Anon

    Boeing and others have gone hog wild buying out older white technical workers and replacing them with dotheads and ghookers. That way they have "color" and "muh di-bersit-ay", kind of ,with 85-90% of YT's IQ, and without dealing with lots of worthless groids, plus dotheads and ghookers will ride herd on groids more willingly than cucked 2020 whites, and yellow and brown people controlling what groids there are has better optics than if white men do it.


    Anyone else notice Biden: "Black man" but "white guy". That senile arsewipe wouldn't have made the corn in Edison's stool.

  84. @John Johnson
    I said a while back this guy was bad pick because he would have an election season to gaffe it up.

    Can't wait to see the MSM spin this one.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @AnotherDad

    Can’t wait to see the MSM spin this one.

    Well that shouldn’t be too hard. They’ll just ignore it.

  85. Anonymous[187] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    When VP Henry Wallace, a seed geneticist, was a boy, his family was close friends with George Washington Carver.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    But it was Ford who waged the PR campaign to bring GWC to national view in the first place. Ford recognized a fellow legume-as-industrial-material fanatic in Carver (soybeans for Ford, peanuts for GWC). Neither’s chimurgy visions panned out–they just couldn’t foresee how much cheaper and more versatile petroleum-based plastics would be.

    Actually, Ford was kind of a wokester _avant le lettre_ in a lot of ways. He was a big promoter of the Great Migration, never had a color bar in hiring, and, when his black workers encountered friction on the factory floor, he tended to segregate them in areas of responsibility: all-black foundries, all-black machine shops etc. Oh, and a criminal record was no disqualifier for employment for him–he hated prisons in general, as well as capital punishment. He wanted to defund the penal system as a waste of time.

    One of his biggest plans was for a huge industrial complex to be built in the 1920s at Muscle Shoals, complete with model workers’ communities and model housing. A Rouge River of Dixie. The local boosters *loved* it and tried to join Ford’s efforts at lobbying Congress for subsidies.

    …Until they realized that Ford intended those communities to be completely integrated.

  86. @kaganovitch
    @Muggles

    Yes, enjoy laughing now. Post election it will be you doing the giving if he’s elected.

    If one is Croatian as Bardon is, it's funny. Similarly, we (or at least I) find Ramzan Akhmadovich Kadyrov, the Man with the Golden Gun & President of Chechnya, hilarious. I suspect if I lived in Grozny he would strike me as more menacing and less funny. As the old Yiddish expression goes "Ikh volt oykh gelakht verd der na'ar nisht meyner" = "I too would be laughing were the fool not my own child."

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @International Jew

    If one is Croatian as Bardon is, it’s funny.

    Real Croatian, as in he lives there? Can he help me and my family get permanent legal residency? I really need to start being nicer to that guy. Have I mentioned how wonderful he is, btw?

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Mr McKenna

    I really need to start being nicer to that guy. Have I mentioned how wonderful he is, btw?

    In fact, the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being you have ever known, amirite?

  87. @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    When VP Henry Wallace, a seed geneticist, was a boy, his family was close friends with George Washington Carver.
     
    Wallace received almost as many votes in 1948 as did Strom Thurmond, 1,157,328 (2.37%) vs. 1,175,930 (2.41%). But it was spread among the 45 states where he was balloted. Thurmond only ran in 17, but won four of them outright, for 38 electors, plus a stray "faithless". It was kind of a preview of the Wallace and Perot runs.

    You'd think a seed geneticist could figure out the Electoral College. Barry Commoner, a cellular biologist, did even worse in 1980, though the unlucky name "Barry" didn't help either.

    Or maybe Americans just don't want to put scientists in charge.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Servant of Gla'aki

    Americans just don’t want to put scientists in charge.

    Speaks well of them. Really smart scientists generally realize that they’re really smart about science. Mediocre scientists think they’re really smart about everything.

  88. @anon
    Edison developed a commercially successful lightbulb and then developed the infrastructure and then founded the General Electric Company to successfully promote electrification in the US.

    The idea of the electric light bulb? Who knows, and how important is it. I'm suppose the thought occurred to Benjamin Franklin. Leonardo Di Vinci sketched the helicopter.

    The electric car isn't an especially new or interesting idea. However developing and selling hundreds of thousands of them is both interesting and remarkable.* Some historian might be able to find an aspect of early 20th century electric car development that could be attributed to a black engineer who could then be promoted as the 'inventor" of the Tesla automobile.

    * Automobile manufacturing is an especially bad business. An investor that bought shares in GM, Ford and Chrysler in 1920 and patiently held them 100 years would have ended up with roughly $0. Warren Buffett has remarked about the difficulty of successfully investing in automobile manufacturing.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @AI Solzhenitsyn

    An investor that bought shares in GM, Ford and Chrysler in 1920 and patiently held them 100 years would have ended up with roughly $0.

    Ford only went public in 1956. If you bought it then and reinvested dividends you outperformed the S&P by a couple of points over the same period. A handsome appreciation indeed! I think Buffett was talking about the airline industry when he said it’s total historical return was approximately zero

  89. @Mr McKenna
    @kaganovitch


    If one is Croatian as Bardon is, it’s funny.
     
    Real Croatian, as in he lives there? Can he help me and my family get permanent legal residency? I really need to start being nicer to that guy. Have I mentioned how wonderful he is, btw?

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    I really need to start being nicer to that guy. Have I mentioned how wonderful he is, btw?

    In fact, the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being you have ever known, amirite?

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  90. anon[380] • Disclaimer says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter
    Just looked Latimer up. Although Biden is exaggerating, Latimer was an accomplished person, and I think Biden actually makes a good point.

    We should emphasize the achievements of minorities who might have been overlooked in the past. One of the benefits would be to show the falsehood of the 1619 Narrative. Latimer was the child of slaves who achieved great things in business and science at the turn of the 20th century. The fact that he could do so shows what a great country America is. How many other places in the world would Latimer have been able to do that?

    Replies: @George, @usNthem, @ScarletNumber, @John Johnson, @Buffalo Joe, @Ben tillman, @anon, @bomag

    Although Biden is exaggerating, Latimer was an accomplished person, and I think Biden actually makes a good point.

    Biden wasn’t exaggerating. He was lying. And his lie was in service to making a VERY BAD POINT, namely, slander against White Americans.

    “Lewis Latimer invented the carbon filament in 1881 or 1882? No!
    English chemist/physicist Joseph Swan experimented with a carbon-filament incandescent light all the way back in 1860, and by 1878 had developed a better design which he patented in Britain. On the other side of the Atlantic, Thomas Edison developed a successful carbon-filament bulb, receiving a patent for it (#223898) in January 1880, before Lewis Latimer did any work in electric lighting. From 1880 onward, countless patents were issued for innovations in filament design and manufacture (Edison had over 50 of them). Neither of Latimer’s two filament-related patents in 1881 and 1882 were among the most important innovations, nor did they make the light bulb last longer, nor is there reason to believe they were adopted outside Hiram Maxim’s company where Latimer worked at the time. (He was not hired by Edison’s company until 1884, primarily as a draftsman and an expert witness in patent litigations).

    Latimer also did not come up with the first screw socket for the light bulb or the first book on electric lighting.”

    http://www.blackinventionmyths.com/index.html

  91. @David In TN
    @Gianni in Guernsey

    "I liked him better when he was plagiarizing."

    Biden bombed out in the 1987 pre-primary period. He had a speech taken word for word from British Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock. Biden had to drop out. He was a national joke.

    If this was a serious country, he still would be, even more so.

    Replies: @Che Blutarsky, @Harry Baldwin, @Pericles, @SaneClownPosse

    He was a national joke.

    Biden still is a national joke–a hilarious joke. The problem is that half the country doesn’t get it.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Harry Baldwin

    During the 1987 period Biden was at a gathering in which somebody asked him why he was something like next to last in his law school class. Biden flipped out. It was hilarious. It used to be on you tube, don't know if it still is.

    Funny thing, Biden has more hair on his head in 2020 than he did in 1987.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Spect3r

  92. @kaganovitch
    @Muggles

    Yes, enjoy laughing now. Post election it will be you doing the giving if he’s elected.

    If one is Croatian as Bardon is, it's funny. Similarly, we (or at least I) find Ramzan Akhmadovich Kadyrov, the Man with the Golden Gun & President of Chechnya, hilarious. I suspect if I lived in Grozny he would strike me as more menacing and less funny. As the old Yiddish expression goes "Ikh volt oykh gelakht verd der na'ar nisht meyner" = "I too would be laughing were the fool not my own child."

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @International Jew

    It’s nar, not na’ar.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @International Jew

    Right you are. I was transliterating a Hebrew article earlier for someone and it just stuck in my head.

  93. @International Jew
    @kaganovitch

    It's nar, not na'ar.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Right you are. I was transliterating a Hebrew article earlier for someone and it just stuck in my head.

  94. @Anon
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    God only knows why Boeing said that. I'd be paranoid to fly. Black males rarely have the white guy fix-it gene. If they had the gene, section 8 housing wouldn't always be torn up. Blacks almost never make or repair anything. They've never been heavily into construction, just picking cotton, rote work on assembly lines, and drug deals. Anyone who remembers the quality of car that GM put out in the 70s with black labor should be aghast. It was normal to find stuff broken the minute you drove them off the car lot. Boeing planes are not assembly-line products. They're need high-quality mechanics, period, or they're going to crash.

    God only knows that Boeing is going to have blacks do. I suspect they're going to lay off so many older whites (who draw the highest salaries) during this Covid year that they'll have 80 white guys and 20 blacks left working for their company.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @anonymous, @AceDeuce

    What about that Rich Rebuilds guy who pieces together Tesla cars from pairs of wrecked ones?

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Inquiring Mind

    Any others?

    I watch tradesmen videos; I've seen this guy; he's good.

    But it makes the point. A (sort of) free-for-all platform like youtube should show us a cross section of technical talent in the country; Blacks are awfully scarce.

  95. @Harry Baldwin
    @David In TN

    He was a national joke.

    Biden still is a national joke--a hilarious joke. The problem is that half the country doesn't get it.

    Replies: @David In TN

    During the 1987 period Biden was at a gathering in which somebody asked him why he was something like next to last in his law school class. Biden flipped out. It was hilarious. It used to be on you tube, don’t know if it still is.

    Funny thing, Biden has more hair on his head in 2020 than he did in 1987.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @David In TN


    Biden has more hair on his head in 2020 than he did in 1987.
     
    So does Jeremy Piven
    , @Spect3r
    @David In TN

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1j0FS0Z6ho

  96. anonymous[167] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    God only knows why Boeing said that. I'd be paranoid to fly. Black males rarely have the white guy fix-it gene. If they had the gene, section 8 housing wouldn't always be torn up. Blacks almost never make or repair anything. They've never been heavily into construction, just picking cotton, rote work on assembly lines, and drug deals. Anyone who remembers the quality of car that GM put out in the 70s with black labor should be aghast. It was normal to find stuff broken the minute you drove them off the car lot. Boeing planes are not assembly-line products. They're need high-quality mechanics, period, or they're going to crash.

    God only knows that Boeing is going to have blacks do. I suspect they're going to lay off so many older whites (who draw the highest salaries) during this Covid year that they'll have 80 white guys and 20 blacks left working for their company.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @anonymous, @AceDeuce

    Anyone who remembers the quality of car that GM put out in the 70s with black labor should be aghast.

    I had a friend who was a very low level GM executive, and I got to meet a few floor managers and some workers, who were white. I was astonished that people who were that stupid were making $90K a year, plus benefits. Even they knew they were too stupid to ever make that kind of money outside of their job, many acquired by nepotism only. Nothing to do with merit.

    I’m talking guys with IQ’s that must have been between 85-90. Whatever turned GM shitty, it wasn’t from hiring black folks. They would be incidental to the machinations of the upper echelon at GM trying to fashion a profit model around evil Unions.

    I was hoping Obama would let the company fail as an object lesson to others, but… he didn’t.

  97. @Achmed E. Newman
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Haha, I wonder if the folks in Dumbass, Texas have seen this. OK, it's Dumas, in the panhandle.

    I may have heard this one from the original songwriter. It was long ago, and I can't remember the guy singing at the bar. This bar was NOT in Texas.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nL4kGzpS_Y

    Replies: @Dmon

    Bob Wills is still the king.

  98. @Art Deco
    Seems like the guy was a capable self-taught engineer, with satisfactory accomplishments for one lifetime. It's like with the Hidden Figures lady. The truth is agreeable enough but apparently not enough for them.

    Replies: @AI Solzhenitsyn

    No disrespect for the ladies in “Hidden Figures,” but you would do well to take a deeper look at what they really did. This film was a typical Hollyweird film that created something that did not happen. Slide rules and those using them could not do what this film claimed. Has Hollyweird produced a film about Jack Crenshaw, the man that actually did what Hidden Figures claims?

    Funny how these claims are just one more of the “45 Goals of the Communists.” The question is is this #17, #21, #32 or another?

    I give credit where it is due, but the party of Jim Crow held blacks back for too long. The president of Harvard spoke at the 25th Anniversary of Tuskegee Institute in 1906. He said this: “By 1905, Tuskegee had produced more self made millionaires than Harvard, Yale and Princeton.” Something changed.

    If you use electricity you are using more than one of my grandfather’s inventions. His name was not Edison, but his inventions were the basis for the world’s power distribution industry. Had Edison beaten Nicola Tesla his inventions would not have been necessary.

  99. @anon
    Edison developed a commercially successful lightbulb and then developed the infrastructure and then founded the General Electric Company to successfully promote electrification in the US.

    The idea of the electric light bulb? Who knows, and how important is it. I'm suppose the thought occurred to Benjamin Franklin. Leonardo Di Vinci sketched the helicopter.

    The electric car isn't an especially new or interesting idea. However developing and selling hundreds of thousands of them is both interesting and remarkable.* Some historian might be able to find an aspect of early 20th century electric car development that could be attributed to a black engineer who could then be promoted as the 'inventor" of the Tesla automobile.

    * Automobile manufacturing is an especially bad business. An investor that bought shares in GM, Ford and Chrysler in 1920 and patiently held them 100 years would have ended up with roughly $0. Warren Buffett has remarked about the difficulty of successfully investing in automobile manufacturing.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @AI Solzhenitsyn

    Debbie Dingell’s family made out big when it sold Fisher Body to GM in about 1925. Also, not to take anything from Edison, don’t forget his head butting with Nicola Tesla. Edison made out big time, but the man that enabled the mass distribution of electricity, Tesla, did not, because he all but gave away his patents. DC would never have worked, and as I said elsewhere on this page, my grandfather’s inventions were the basis of the World’s power distribution industry. Things like transformers made necessary because Tesla won.

    Don’t hold your breath on mass electric cars. All the more if New Green Deal folks win. Solar and win will never provide enough power and guess who controls the materials for batteries and solar panels? It was in that country that Biden encouraged the Communist Chinese Party to exercise great influence in the United States.

    Our grid can not support all electric cars and if AOC has her way you’ll have no coal, gas or nuclear to provide the electricity. BTW, Bill Clinton was bailed out by the Riady Bros who control coal, when he was governor.

  100. @John Johnson
    I said a while back this guy was bad pick because he would have an election season to gaffe it up.

    Can't wait to see the MSM spin this one.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @AnotherDad

    Biden’s bad–ok terrible–but this sort of asininity is baked into the cake.

    Minoritarians chose blacks as their sacred cows, because the oppression of blacks in America could be propagandized to delegitimize white gentiles, our history, our accomplishments and hence majority rule, our republic, our right to govern ourselves in our nation. To be replaced by elite–heavily Jewish, Jewish influenced–diktat in a balkanized marketplace–what’s good for the Jews. (Or at least what a lot of Jews think is “good for the Jews”.) Dwelling on other minorities isn’t so great because there’s either no significant “oppression” there (ex. the Jews) or it isn’t something that they want us thinking very hard about (the natives losing their land to white invaders).

    The problem is this only works with blacks because they are still “oppressed”–i.e. still not doing as well as whites. But the reason for this–and frankly the reason whites desired segregation–is that blacks just aren’t very capable or conscientious, don’t particularly excel at “civilization” and haven’t accomplished much.

    The plain truth is America actually is a “land of opportunity”. So when minoritarians have to pick an “oppressed” people to try and tear that notion down … they automatically end up with a people who were/are poor at grabbing opportunity, underperformers. (Less politely–are screw-ups.)

    • Replies: @Mike_from_SGV
    @AnotherDad

    What a perfect recipe for endless conflict and white fear/demoralization: attribute bad behavior to "systemic racism" instead of their own choices or inability, leading to carte blanche for riots, trillions of dollars of wealth expropriation, white flight and lower birthrates. Evil geniuses, the people who thought this up.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

  101. @George
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    He did have an impressive career.

    In 1876, Alexander Graham Bell employed Latimer, then a draftsman at Bell's patent law firm, to draft the necessary drawings required to receive a patent for Bell's telephone.[7]

    In 1879, ...hired as assistant manager and draftsman for the U.S. Electric Lighting Company, a company owned by Hiram Maxim(the machine gun guy), a rival of Thomas A. Edison.

    The light bulb
    Latimer received a patent on January 17, 1882 for the "Process of Manufacturing Carbons", an improved method for the production of lightbulb carbon filaments.[8][9]

    The Edison Electric Light Company in New York City hired Latimer in 1884, as a draftsman and an expert witness in patent litigation on electric lights. While at Edison, Latimer wrote the first book on electric lighting, Incandescent Electric Lighting (1890)[10] and supervised the installation of public electric lights throughout New York, Philadelphia, Montreal, and London.[11] When that company was combined in 1892 with the Thomson-Houston Electric Company to form General Electric, he continued to work in the legal department. In 1911, he became a patent consultant to law firms.[12]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Howard_Latimer

    Replies: @bispora, @O. Zerk

    And he did have a minimal role in the light bulb invention…

    “English chemist/physicist Joseph Swan experimented with a carbon-filament incandescent light all the way back in 1860, and by 1878 had developed a better design which he patented in Britain. On the other side of the Atlantic, Thomas Edison developed a successful carbon-filament bulb, receiving a patent for it (#223898) in January 1880, before Lewis Latimer did any work in electric lighting. From 1880 onward, countless patents were issued for innovations in filament design and manufacture (Edison had over 50 of them). Neither of Latimer’s two filament-related patents in 1881 and 1882 were among the most important innovations, nor did they make the light bulb last longer, nor is there reason to believe they were adopted outside Hiram Maxim’s company where Latimer worked at the time. (He was not hired by Edison’s company until 1884, primarily as a draftsman and an expert witness in patent litigations).”

  102. I bet Joe brings up the 1001 Arab inventions (holding a flying carpet and jumping off a minaret in Moorish Spain predated the Wright brothers, etc).

    We are now officially living in Howard Zinn’s America.

  103. @AnotherDad
    @John Johnson

    Biden's bad--ok terrible--but this sort of asininity is baked into the cake.

    Minoritarians chose blacks as their sacred cows, because the oppression of blacks in America could be propagandized to delegitimize white gentiles, our history, our accomplishments and hence majority rule, our republic, our right to govern ourselves in our nation. To be replaced by elite--heavily Jewish, Jewish influenced--diktat in a balkanized marketplace--what's good for the Jews. (Or at least what a lot of Jews think is "good for the Jews".) Dwelling on other minorities isn't so great because there's either no significant "oppression" there (ex. the Jews) or it isn't something that they want us thinking very hard about (the natives losing their land to white invaders).

    The problem is this only works with blacks because they are still "oppressed"--i.e. still not doing as well as whites. But the reason for this--and frankly the reason whites desired segregation--is that blacks just aren't very capable or conscientious, don't particularly excel at "civilization" and haven't accomplished much.

    The plain truth is America actually is a "land of opportunity". So when minoritarians have to pick an "oppressed" people to try and tear that notion down ... they automatically end up with a people who were/are poor at grabbing opportunity, underperformers. (Less politely--are screw-ups.)

    Replies: @Mike_from_SGV

    What a perfect recipe for endless conflict and white fear/demoralization: attribute bad behavior to “systemic racism” instead of their own choices or inability, leading to carte blanche for riots, trillions of dollars of wealth expropriation, white flight and lower birthrates. Evil geniuses, the people who thought this up.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Mike_from_SGV

    They know their audience. Nobody pitching an idea can get anywhere unless people catch that idea, and knigrows already were under this delusion. Now it's "official". Blacks are the least self aware people on the planet. This BS is music to their ignorant ears.

  104. @David In TN
    @Gianni in Guernsey

    "I liked him better when he was plagiarizing."

    Biden bombed out in the 1987 pre-primary period. He had a speech taken word for word from British Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock. Biden had to drop out. He was a national joke.

    If this was a serious country, he still would be, even more so.

    Replies: @Che Blutarsky, @Harry Baldwin, @Pericles, @SaneClownPosse

    One might also say the middle class is a joke these days.

  105. @David In TN
    @Harry Baldwin

    During the 1987 period Biden was at a gathering in which somebody asked him why he was something like next to last in his law school class. Biden flipped out. It was hilarious. It used to be on you tube, don't know if it still is.

    Funny thing, Biden has more hair on his head in 2020 than he did in 1987.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Spect3r

    Biden has more hair on his head in 2020 than he did in 1987.

    So does Jeremy Piven

  106. Remember that Michael Scott and Joe Biden are both natives of Scranton, Pennsylvania. The creators of The Office didn’t set the show in Scranton because it was full of witty, urbane people. They were making fun of it. The joke was lost on the natives though, because when the show ended they had a tribute day at the AAA baseball stadium and it was sold out.

    • Replies: @ChrisZ
    @ScarletNumber

    A running meme linking Biden and Michael Scott sounds like great idea.

  107. Isn’t this because people search for “African American inventors” and the algorithm then associates “American” with black? Even for Google this seems a little heavy-handed.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @bjdubbs

    Poor little Google is just a tiny enterprise that can't afford to write a few lines of code to correct this since I pointed out their "American inventors" problem in 2016.

    , @art guerrilla
    @bjdubbs

    @ bjdubbs-
    by that 'reasoning' of popularity of searches affecting subsequent search results, then just about ALL search requests should return a bunch of pron links...

    , @Che Blutarsky
    @bjdubbs

    A Google search for "American Mathematicians" turns up, in the top 32 results, 18 African-Americans (13 women and 5 men). Good thing for them or we'd still be living in mud huts.

  108. Russian inventors celebrated as ‘the first in the world’ in the USSR.

    Alexander Lodygin: Russin inventor of light bulb

    Alexander Mozhaysky: Russian inventor of airplane

    Alexander Popov: Russian inventor of radio

    And these are just the ones with first name Alexander.

  109. @bjdubbs
    Isn't this because people search for "African American inventors" and the algorithm then associates "American" with black? Even for Google this seems a little heavy-handed.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @art guerrilla, @Che Blutarsky

    Poor little Google is just a tiny enterprise that can’t afford to write a few lines of code to correct this since I pointed out their “American inventors” problem in 2016.

  110. @bjdubbs
    Isn't this because people search for "African American inventors" and the algorithm then associates "American" with black? Even for Google this seems a little heavy-handed.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @art guerrilla, @Che Blutarsky

    @ bjdubbs-
    by that ‘reasoning’ of popularity of searches affecting subsequent search results, then just about ALL search requests should return a bunch of pron links…

  111. Larry Romanoff would agree it wasn’t Edison, but even he doesn’t go that far.

    https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/a-few-historical-frauds/

  112. @syonredux
    @Steve Sailer

    I tend to think that Edison’s “Genius: one percent inspiration and 99 percent perspiration” quote works against him in terms of popular culture. We have this romantic image of the scientist/inventor as a kind of lonely visionary. Edison, in contrast, was about relentless work. There’s a problem to be solved? Gather a team of smart guys and start finding solutions. In order to solve this problem we need someone with a thorough grounding in mathematics? Hire that Francis Robbins Upton kid that Hermann von Helmholtz thinks so highly of.

    And, as you said, of all the things that Edison invented (the quadruplex telegraph, the phonograph, the carbon microphone,the fluoroscope etc), his role in developing the modern industrial laboratory was probably his most important contribution to science.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Are you sure about that? Edison is rightly famous, but modern R & D type work was, I think, the trademark of genius German chemist Justus von Liebig. He is the father of big organized labs etc., while Edison gets the credit for organization of invention labs, so to speak. And- he was more of an entrepreneur.

    Big collective work on inventing something new is not an outgrowth of Edison type of work, but a natural step in development of big science (A bomb, transistors, …). Modern invention stems from science, not from curiosity & ingenuity of a gifted, but not very educated individual (Edison didn’t understand Maxwell’s equations). And, there are cultural differences- inventions which are happening in, say, modern China or Japan have nothing with Edison type of personality.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Are you sure about that?
     
    That Edison played an important role in the development of the industrial lab, a place where teams of men worked full time on developing profitable inventions and products? Yeah.


    “His [Edison’s] greatest invention was that of the industrial research laboratory, turning out inventions as a business.”

    -Norbert Wiener

    Rutgers historian Paul Israel, one of the editors working on the Thomas Edison Papers Project and the author of a forthcoming biography of Edison-the first based on extensive access to the archives-explains some of the vision behind the freestanding laboratory. “Edison was one of the first,” he says, “to understand that the invention process could be organized.”
     

    In a posthumous work on invention published in 1993, the eminent computer scientist Norbert Wiener attests that Edison’s most lasting innovation “was the invention of the industrial scientific laboratory in which a moderately large trained crew of technicians was directed by a central mind towards the making of inventions as an everyday business.”

     


    Gregory Field, a historian at the University of Michigan at Dearborn who spent five years scrutinizing the early notebooks as part of the Edison Papers Project, says Edison’s key contribution to modern research efforts is his maverick insistence on “always tying the R’ to the D’.” Edison persistently held that “invention involves not just research but research, development, and marketing,” Field maintains-a view that would ultimately help usher in a new relationship between scientists and the entrepreneurial use of their work. According to Edison, in fact, “Dollars and science were so much mixed up” in his career that it was sometimes hard to separate his inventive activities from the continual stream of commercial ventures in which he involved himself.
     

    Edison almost defiantly emphasized his role as an “industrial scientist” to contrast himself with academic scientists such as Pasteur. Not surprisingly given his success, he inspired others to pursue a similar approach. For instance, historians have traced Alexander Graham Bell’s establishment of a small general research laboratory-the precursor of what would ultimately grow into the enormous Bell Laboratory complex (now Lucent Technologies)-to Edison’s example.

     

    https://www.technologyreview.com/1997/02/01/237382/unlocking-the-legacies-of-the-edison-archives/
  113. Remember Bono’s “Make Poverty History”? How about “Make History History”?

  114. @George
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    He did have an impressive career.

    In 1876, Alexander Graham Bell employed Latimer, then a draftsman at Bell's patent law firm, to draft the necessary drawings required to receive a patent for Bell's telephone.[7]

    In 1879, ...hired as assistant manager and draftsman for the U.S. Electric Lighting Company, a company owned by Hiram Maxim(the machine gun guy), a rival of Thomas A. Edison.

    The light bulb
    Latimer received a patent on January 17, 1882 for the "Process of Manufacturing Carbons", an improved method for the production of lightbulb carbon filaments.[8][9]

    The Edison Electric Light Company in New York City hired Latimer in 1884, as a draftsman and an expert witness in patent litigation on electric lights. While at Edison, Latimer wrote the first book on electric lighting, Incandescent Electric Lighting (1890)[10] and supervised the installation of public electric lights throughout New York, Philadelphia, Montreal, and London.[11] When that company was combined in 1892 with the Thomson-Houston Electric Company to form General Electric, he continued to work in the legal department. In 1911, he became a patent consultant to law firms.[12]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Howard_Latimer

    Replies: @bispora, @O. Zerk

    While at Edison, Latimer wrote the first book on electric lighting, Incandescent Electric Lighting (1890)

    No, not even close.

  115. @Inquiring Mind
    @Anon

    What about that Rich Rebuilds guy who pieces together Tesla cars from pairs of wrecked ones?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZptvOUXBkdY

    Replies: @bomag

    Any others?

    I watch tradesmen videos; I’ve seen this guy; he’s good.

    But it makes the point. A (sort of) free-for-all platform like youtube should show us a cross section of technical talent in the country; Blacks are awfully scarce.

  116. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/cabot_phillips/status/1301516424276578305

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @Achmed E. Newman, @Escher, @Stephen Paul Foster, @anon, @jim jones

    Next step: put him on a tall stool in the campus quad with a dunce cap and a placard on his chest that reads “running dog white supremacist” then start beating him with sticks until he confesses and asks for rehabilitation as a gopher translating ebonics for BLM dignitaries.

  117. @Anon
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    God only knows why Boeing said that. I'd be paranoid to fly. Black males rarely have the white guy fix-it gene. If they had the gene, section 8 housing wouldn't always be torn up. Blacks almost never make or repair anything. They've never been heavily into construction, just picking cotton, rote work on assembly lines, and drug deals. Anyone who remembers the quality of car that GM put out in the 70s with black labor should be aghast. It was normal to find stuff broken the minute you drove them off the car lot. Boeing planes are not assembly-line products. They're need high-quality mechanics, period, or they're going to crash.

    God only knows that Boeing is going to have blacks do. I suspect they're going to lay off so many older whites (who draw the highest salaries) during this Covid year that they'll have 80 white guys and 20 blacks left working for their company.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @anonymous, @AceDeuce

    Boeing and others have gone hog wild buying out older white technical workers and replacing them with dotheads and ghookers. That way they have “color” and “muh di-bersit-ay”, kind of ,with 85-90% of YT’s IQ, and without dealing with lots of worthless groids, plus dotheads and ghookers will ride herd on groids more willingly than cucked 2020 whites, and yellow and brown people controlling what groids there are has better optics than if white men do it.

    Anyone else notice Biden: “Black man” but “white guy”. That senile arsewipe wouldn’t have made the corn in Edison’s stool.

  118. @Mike_from_SGV
    @AnotherDad

    What a perfect recipe for endless conflict and white fear/demoralization: attribute bad behavior to "systemic racism" instead of their own choices or inability, leading to carte blanche for riots, trillions of dollars of wealth expropriation, white flight and lower birthrates. Evil geniuses, the people who thought this up.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    They know their audience. Nobody pitching an idea can get anywhere unless people catch that idea, and knigrows already were under this delusion. Now it’s “official”. Blacks are the least self aware people on the planet. This BS is music to their ignorant ears.

  119. @Anon
    So how much mendacious flattery will it take before they are finally satisfied, and join the community of law-abiding, self-controlled people? Are we near Peak-Buttkiss?

    Replies: @Justvisiting

    We need to give black people a planet of their own to prove how brilliant and resourceful they are.

    Mars would be good.

    No white scientists or engineers allowed to touch anything to do with the project.

    Let them show us their stuff!

    (No, white folks don’t get to make the body bags, either…..)

    • Replies: @bruce county
    @Justvisiting


    We need to give black people a planet of their own to prove how brilliant and resourceful they are.
     
    They've had the entire history of humankind to prove their intellect and ingenuity.
    They have had an entire continent on which to do so. They have built squat.. mud huts protected by bomas. They drink from mud holes. They hunt with spears and eat rats. But... there is a damned good chance they will still be there long after we whites are on the western hemisphere. Simple works for simple people in a simple environment.

    They would eat other on Mars. Only Matt Damon can survive on Mars. Oh and Donna Summer.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=46&v=uT6Qc16HKh4&feature=emb_logo

  120. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Just looked Latimer up. Although Biden is exaggerating, Latimer was an accomplished person, and I think Biden actually makes a good point.

    We should emphasize the achievements of minorities who might have been overlooked in the past. One of the benefits would be to show the falsehood of the 1619 Narrative. Latimer was the child of slaves who achieved great things in business and science at the turn of the 20th century. The fact that he could do so shows what a great country America is. How many other places in the world would Latimer have been able to do that?

    Replies: @George, @usNthem, @ScarletNumber, @John Johnson, @Buffalo Joe, @Ben tillman, @anon, @bomag

    We should emphasize the achievements of minorities who might have been overlooked in the past. One of the benefits would be to show the falsehood of the 1619 Narrative.

    Nice sentiment, but the other side is not interested in establishing any cohesive or accurate historical record. They will just keep on staking out even more absurd positions.

  121. @Malcolm Y
    So, Shockley not there cause he was a racis, was Bardeen another unspeakable.

    Madam Walker, I think, was famous for hair straightening; I'm not sure this makes you one of the greatest American inventors.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    Walker also stole her “idea” from another groid woman she used to work for. LOL.

  122. @ScarletNumber
    Remember that Michael Scott and Joe Biden are both natives of Scranton, Pennsylvania. The creators of The Office didn't set the show in Scranton because it was full of witty, urbane people. They were making fun of it. The joke was lost on the natives though, because when the show ended they had a tribute day at the AAA baseball stadium and it was sold out.

    Replies: @ChrisZ

    A running meme linking Biden and Michael Scott sounds like great idea.

  123. Don’t leave out the best part about his speech:

    This video has everything. Biden tells the audience a black man invented the lightbulb then he farts at 14 seconds.

  124. @Calvin Hobbes
    #2 on the Google list is George Washington Carver, who never invented or discovered anything the least bit important. It’s amazing that the guy could become the second greatest American inventor without ever inventing anything even slightly important.

    Even more bizarre is that 3 of the women on the Google list (Marie Van Brittan Brown, Bessie Blount Griffin, and Miriam Benjami) have identical pictures. Isn’t it supposed to be some sort of racist stereotype that all blacks look the same?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @art guerrilla, @Calvin Hobbes

    Even more bizarre is that 3 of the women on the Google list (Marie Van Brittan Brown, Bessie Blount Griffin, and Miriam Benjami) have identical pictures. Isn’t it supposed to be some sort of racist stereotype that all blacks look the same?

    To see this, click on the “American inventors” link in Steve’s article here and then scroll to the right to see the later entries on Google’s list. The second to last one and the sixth to last one have the same picture, and then you see that same picture again if you scroll back some.

    • Replies: @Calvin Hobbes
    @Calvin Hobbes


    Even more bizarre is that 3 of the women on the Google list (Marie Van Brittan Brown, Bessie Blount Griffin, and Miriam Benjamin) have identical pictures. Isn’t it supposed to be some sort of racist stereotype that all blacks look the same?
     
    And now the Google “American inventors” list has changed, with Miriam Benjamin not on it. Also Lewis Latimer moves up to #2, GW Carver moves down to #3.

    But Marie Van Brittan Brown and Bessie Blount Griffin are still on the list, and with identical pictures.
  125. @Calvin Hobbes
    @Calvin Hobbes


    Even more bizarre is that 3 of the women on the Google list (Marie Van Brittan Brown, Bessie Blount Griffin, and Miriam Benjami) have identical pictures. Isn’t it supposed to be some sort of racist stereotype that all blacks look the same?
     
    To see this, click on the “American inventors” link in Steve’s article here and then scroll to the right to see the later entries on Google’s list. The second to last one and the sixth to last one have the same picture, and then you see that same picture again if you scroll back some.

    Replies: @Calvin Hobbes

    Even more bizarre is that 3 of the women on the Google list (Marie Van Brittan Brown, Bessie Blount Griffin, and Miriam Benjamin) have identical pictures. Isn’t it supposed to be some sort of racist stereotype that all blacks look the same?

    And now the Google “American inventors” list has changed, with Miriam Benjamin not on it. Also Lewis Latimer moves up to #2, GW Carver moves down to #3.

    But Marie Van Brittan Brown and Bessie Blount Griffin are still on the list, and with identical pictures.

  126. • Agree: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Here is something you, as well as the commenters of this fine blog, need to take into serious consideration.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-brown-racist-franklin/

    Perhaps even Mr. Sailer will learn a thing or two!

    Replies: @bruce county, @GeneralRipper

  127. @David In TN
    @Harry Baldwin

    During the 1987 period Biden was at a gathering in which somebody asked him why he was something like next to last in his law school class. Biden flipped out. It was hilarious. It used to be on you tube, don't know if it still is.

    Funny thing, Biden has more hair on his head in 2020 than he did in 1987.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Spect3r

  128. Attention White People, and understand something:

    American culture and technology are evil, but we invented all of it and we deserve the credit.

    The space program was a complete waste of time and money (as we pointed out in “Whitey’s on the Moon”), but we created it and we deserve all the credit (watch “Hidden Figures” if you don’t believe us; movies never lie).

    America is a worthless, racist country, but we built it and we deserve the credit.

    Everything you have is our doing. That means you owe us, and will continuing owing us everything you have forever.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Black America


    Everything you have is our doing.
     
    Hey! We agreed to keep that a secret!
  129. @anonymous
    True Fact!

    Edward Makuka Nkoloso of Zambia had dreams to land Zambians on moon and mars beating the US and USSR in the Space race. He did everything he could with his limited resources to make his dream a reality but could he fulfill his dreams?

    https://youtu.be/7TI9ixb-a5M

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose, @BB753

    They were also going to launch the first space mission to the sun.

    Don’t worry, they were going at night.

  130. @Buffalo Joe
    @Bolo

    Bolo, and Henry Ford didn't invent the automobile. See were I'm going here?

    Replies: @Lurker

    No one thinks Henry Ford invented the automobile whereas Edison is widely believed to have invented the light bulb.

  131. I think a black sharpened the end of a stick, and after throwing it away in disgust, realised that he had invented the spear. I don’t know his name, nor do I have any proof to support it.

  132. @bjdubbs
    Isn't this because people search for "African American inventors" and the algorithm then associates "American" with black? Even for Google this seems a little heavy-handed.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @art guerrilla, @Che Blutarsky

    A Google search for “American Mathematicians” turns up, in the top 32 results, 18 African-Americans (13 women and 5 men). Good thing for them or we’d still be living in mud huts.

  133. Theater of the absurd.

    If black geniuses and inventors are so prolific let them help tackle the many unsolved problems in astronomy, biology, chemistry, computer science, economics, linguistics, math, medicine, philosophy, physics and statistics.

    There are financial incentives. The Electronic Frontier Foundation alone is offering $250,000 to the first individual or group who will discover a prime number with at least 1,000,000,000 decimal digits. Large primes are used to encrypt messages and online transactions.

    List of unsolved problems
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_unsolved_problems

    EFF Cooperative Computing Awards
    https://www.eff.org/awards/coop

    • Replies: @bruce county
    @Amerimutt Golems


    If black geniuses and inventors are so prolific let them help tackle the many unsolved problems in astronomy, biology, chemistry, computer science, economics, linguistics, math, medicine, philosophy, physics and statistics.
     
    Why didn't blacks go after the X Prize?
  134. @Amerimutt Golems
    Theater of the absurd.

    If black geniuses and inventors are so prolific let them help tackle the many unsolved problems in astronomy, biology, chemistry, computer science, economics, linguistics, math, medicine, philosophy, physics and statistics.

    There are financial incentives. The Electronic Frontier Foundation alone is offering $250,000 to the first individual or group who will discover a prime number with at least 1,000,000,000 decimal digits. Large primes are used to encrypt messages and online transactions.

    List of unsolved problems
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_unsolved_problems

    EFF Cooperative Computing Awards
    https://www.eff.org/awards/coop

    Replies: @bruce county

    If black geniuses and inventors are so prolific let them help tackle the many unsolved problems in astronomy, biology, chemistry, computer science, economics, linguistics, math, medicine, philosophy, physics and statistics.

    Why didn’t blacks go after the X Prize?

  135. Apparently, Biden also believes that the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

    He knows the things that are going through his mind!

  136. So, I guess the strategy goes something like this: feed BLACKS! enough silly bullshit and they will get smarter and start to behave themselves.
    Let’s just give it, say, 10,000 years and I bet we have a positive result.

  137. @Bardon Kaldian
    @syonredux

    Are you sure about that? Edison is rightly famous, but modern R & D type work was, I think, the trademark of genius German chemist Justus von Liebig. He is the father of big organized labs etc., while Edison gets the credit for organization of invention labs, so to speak. And- he was more of an entrepreneur.

    Big collective work on inventing something new is not an outgrowth of Edison type of work, but a natural step in development of big science (A bomb, transistors, ...). Modern invention stems from science, not from curiosity & ingenuity of a gifted, but not very educated individual (Edison didn't understand Maxwell's equations). And, there are cultural differences- inventions which are happening in, say, modern China or Japan have nothing with Edison type of personality.

    Replies: @syonredux

    Are you sure about that?

    That Edison played an important role in the development of the industrial lab, a place where teams of men worked full time on developing profitable inventions and products? Yeah.

    “His [Edison’s] greatest invention was that of the industrial research laboratory, turning out inventions as a business.”

    -Norbert Wiener

    Rutgers historian Paul Israel, one of the editors working on the Thomas Edison Papers Project and the author of a forthcoming biography of Edison-the first based on extensive access to the archives-explains some of the vision behind the freestanding laboratory. “Edison was one of the first,” he says, “to understand that the invention process could be organized.”

    In a posthumous work on invention published in 1993, the eminent computer scientist Norbert Wiener attests that Edison’s most lasting innovation “was the invention of the industrial scientific laboratory in which a moderately large trained crew of technicians was directed by a central mind towards the making of inventions as an everyday business.”

    Gregory Field, a historian at the University of Michigan at Dearborn who spent five years scrutinizing the early notebooks as part of the Edison Papers Project, says Edison’s key contribution to modern research efforts is his maverick insistence on “always tying the R’ to the D’.” Edison persistently held that “invention involves not just research but research, development, and marketing,” Field maintains-a view that would ultimately help usher in a new relationship between scientists and the entrepreneurial use of their work. According to Edison, in fact, “Dollars and science were so much mixed up” in his career that it was sometimes hard to separate his inventive activities from the continual stream of commercial ventures in which he involved himself.

    Edison almost defiantly emphasized his role as an “industrial scientist” to contrast himself with academic scientists such as Pasteur. Not surprisingly given his success, he inspired others to pursue a similar approach. For instance, historians have traced Alexander Graham Bell’s establishment of a small general research laboratory-the precursor of what would ultimately grow into the enormous Bell Laboratory complex (now Lucent Technologies)-to Edison’s example.

    https://www.technologyreview.com/1997/02/01/237382/unlocking-the-legacies-of-the-edison-archives/

  138. @David In TN
    @Gianni in Guernsey

    "I liked him better when he was plagiarizing."

    Biden bombed out in the 1987 pre-primary period. He had a speech taken word for word from British Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock. Biden had to drop out. He was a national joke.

    If this was a serious country, he still would be, even more so.

    Replies: @Che Blutarsky, @Harry Baldwin, @Pericles, @SaneClownPosse

    The only explanation is that they are using Biden as a carrier to implant the Kamala virus into the White House.

    They had better make sure, in the event Biden wins, that Joe that doesn’t announce that he is stepping down before the Inauguration.

    But that would be a historic first for the Republic.

  139. For a long time the Wright Bros. have falsely claimed to have invented propelled flight.

    In fact the credit should go to an ancestor of mine who beat them by 80 years and traveled 600 miles.

    In spite of the disadvantage of not having the internal combustion engine available to him, great-great-great grand dad flew from England to Germany using a hot air balloon powered by a clockwork propeller.

    Unfortunately, not being a very practical person, he later went bankrupt.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
    @Jonathan Mason

    Great Story!!

    Would make for an interesting movie!

  140. @Justvisiting
    @Anon

    We need to give black people a planet of their own to prove how brilliant and resourceful they are.

    Mars would be good.

    No white scientists or engineers allowed to touch anything to do with the project.

    Let them show us their stuff!

    (No, white folks don't get to make the body bags, either.....)

    Replies: @bruce county

    We need to give black people a planet of their own to prove how brilliant and resourceful they are.

    They’ve had the entire history of humankind to prove their intellect and ingenuity.
    They have had an entire continent on which to do so. They have built squat.. mud huts protected by bomas. They drink from mud holes. They hunt with spears and eat rats. But… there is a damned good chance they will still be there long after we whites are on the western hemisphere. Simple works for simple people in a simple environment.

    They would eat other on Mars. Only Matt Damon can survive on Mars. Oh and Donna Summer.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=46&v=uT6Qc16HKh4&feature=emb_logo

  141. @BB753
    Biden looks and sounds so much creepier with his face mask on!

    Replies: @BB753

    He also sounds like he’s suffocating. “I can’t breathe!”. Seriously, it’s time to put an end to this face mask wearing charade, which is so unhealthy.

  142. @anonymous
    True Fact!

    Edward Makuka Nkoloso of Zambia had dreams to land Zambians on moon and mars beating the US and USSR in the Space race. He did everything he could with his limited resources to make his dream a reality but could he fulfill his dreams?

    https://youtu.be/7TI9ixb-a5M

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose, @BB753

    Sadly, I fear that NASA will be a lot like the Zambian space program in two generations or so.

    • Replies: @bruce county
    @BB753

    NASA is no longer the only game in town. They are under funded and over priced.
    Space X and ESA are the new kids in town.

  143. @Black America
    Attention White People, and understand something:

    American culture and technology are evil, but we invented all of it and we deserve the credit.

    The space program was a complete waste of time and money (as we pointed out in "Whitey's on the Moon"), but we created it and we deserve all the credit (watch "Hidden Figures" if you don't believe us; movies never lie).

    America is a worthless, racist country, but we built it and we deserve the credit.

    Everything you have is our doing. That means you owe us, and will continuing owing us everything you have forever.

    Replies: @bomag

    Everything you have is our doing.

    Hey! We agreed to keep that a secret!

  144. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/cabot_phillips/status/1301516424276578305

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @Achmed E. Newman, @Escher, @Stephen Paul Foster, @anon, @jim jones

    The audio is so bad I can’t understand what he’s saying anyway.

  145. You didn’t invent that!

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @joe bididn't

    “White inventions” or “western science”, while noteworthy in their original ideas and innovations, of course owe much to gunpowder, paper, the compass, and movable type (Chinese), to the number 0 (India), and to the idea of a rule-based, law-giving universal Creator (Middle East).

    The rise of white people to jackbooting status, I mean bearers of civilization, was built on these discoveries.

    Bear in mind there are few inventions that are “purely” white. Take this comment for example. It depends on the Internet and computers – “white inventions”. But it also depends on the alphabet, a Phoenician invention, and the idea of writing itself, which in the West comes from Egypt. At any point in history, most inventions will come from one part of the world because it is the most advanced at that particular time. So while most important inventions of the past few hundred years were made by "white people"**, that is only because they have been on top during that time frame. The Egyptians and the Chinese had a far longer reign compared to Europeans when it came to technological advancements.

    **As an aside, when the first Africans arrived in Virginia in 1619, there were no “white people", nor, according to colonial records, would there be for another sixty years. Hmmm…

    And it’s not as if white people, chiefly (heh) the English, created words with foreign origins…

    https://cudoo.com/blog/something-borrowed-english-words-with-foreign-origins

    And it’s not as if Europeans have words borrowed from indigenous languages of the Americas…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_from_indigenous_languages_of_the_Americas

    And it's not as if (gasp) we have a sample of the English loanwords from Arabic…

    https://www.iasj.net/iasj?func=fulltext&aId=95290

    Continuing with this aside, words travel from one language into another as a result of language contact stimulated by a number of linguistic and extra linguistic motivations. War, invasion, intermarriage, immigration, commercial activities--all are factors that might lead to borrowing. Borrowing is the phenomenon which undertakes the word transmission process from one variety into another among the connected communities.

    So, we ALL built that!

  146. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/cabot_phillips/status/1301516424276578305

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @Achmed E. Newman, @Escher, @Stephen Paul Foster, @anon, @jim jones

    I had a coffee next to a group of Chinese students the other day and every other word was “nigga”

  147. @John Johnson
    @Calvin Hobbes

    Black History Month is what all schools are converging towards.

    They will exaggerate everything for the sake of racial equality and anyone who says otherwise is just some weirdo racist being pedantic.

    When the DNA results of the Egyptians came out there were articles by libs on why the test doesn't matter and shouldn't have been done in the first place. They were upset that Egyptians weren't revealed as sub-Saharan African which is what they already knew but didn't want proven.

    The internet is really a nightmare for the left. You have to wonder if they would have invested so heavily into race denial and blank slate in the 60s and 70s if they knew the internet was coming. I've watched some older debates and it seems the leftists then really believed that they would always have the upper hand in controlling information related to race.

    Replies: @usNthem, @lavoisier

    When the DNA results of the Egyptians came out there were articles by libs on why the test doesn’t matter and shouldn’t have been done in the first place. They were upset that Egyptians weren’t revealed as sub-Saharan African which is what they already knew but didn’t want proven.

    I was actually surprised that Nature even published this scientific paper in 2017. I am sure it is NOT required reading in any of the prestigious African history or Egyptology programs across the land of the free and the home of the brave.

    I really doubt that with all the race denialism in the news today whether this article would be published today. The editors of Nature and many other prominent science journals have been imbibing quite a bit of the egalitarian Kool-Aid, and it takes a certain amount of courage and intellectual honesty to present scientific findings that challenge the narrative..

    Even the hard sciences are being corrupted by the “woke.”

  148. @Jonathan Mason
    For a long time the Wright Bros. have falsely claimed to have invented propelled flight.

    In fact the credit should go to an ancestor of mine who beat them by 80 years and traveled 600 miles.

    In spite of the disadvantage of not having the internal combustion engine available to him, great-great-great grand dad flew from England to Germany using a hot air balloon powered by a clockwork propeller.

    Unfortunately, not being a very practical person, he later went bankrupt.

    Replies: @lavoisier

    Great Story!!

    Would make for an interesting movie!

  149. @joe bididn't
    You didn't invent that!

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “White inventions” or “western science”, while noteworthy in their original ideas and innovations, of course owe much to gunpowder, paper, the compass, and movable type (Chinese), to the number 0 (India), and to the idea of a rule-based, law-giving universal Creator (Middle East).

    The rise of white people to jackbooting status, I mean bearers of civilization, was built on these discoveries.

    Bear in mind there are few inventions that are “purely” white. Take this comment for example. It depends on the Internet and computers – “white inventions”. But it also depends on the alphabet, a Phoenician invention, and the idea of writing itself, which in the West comes from Egypt. At any point in history, most inventions will come from one part of the world because it is the most advanced at that particular time. So while most important inventions of the past few hundred years were made by “white people”**, that is only because they have been on top during that time frame. The Egyptians and the Chinese had a far longer reign compared to Europeans when it came to technological advancements.

    **As an aside, when the first Africans arrived in Virginia in 1619, there were no “white people”, nor, according to colonial records, would there be for another sixty years. Hmmm…

    And it’s not as if white people, chiefly (heh) the English, created words with foreign origins…

    https://cudoo.com/blog/something-borrowed-english-words-with-foreign-origins

    And it’s not as if Europeans have words borrowed from indigenous languages of the Americas…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_from_indigenous_languages_of_the_Americas

    And it’s not as if (gasp) we have a sample of the English loanwords from Arabic…

    https://www.iasj.net/iasj?func=fulltext&aId=95290

    Continuing with this aside, words travel from one language into another as a result of language contact stimulated by a number of linguistic and extra linguistic motivations. War, invasion, intermarriage, immigration, commercial activities–all are factors that might lead to borrowing. Borrowing is the phenomenon which undertakes the word transmission process from one variety into another among the connected communities.

    So, we ALL built that!

  150. @Bardon Kaldian
    https://familyinequality.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/racist-charlie-brown.jpg?w=640

    Replies: @Corvinus

    Here is something you, as well as the commenters of this fine blog, need to take into serious consideration.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-brown-racist-franklin/

    Perhaps even Mr. Sailer will learn a thing or two!

    • Replies: @bruce county
    @Corvinus

    Thanks for stopping by.
    Now would you go clean the toilet.

    , @GeneralRipper
    @Corvinus


    Here is something you, as well as the commenters of this fine blog, need to take into serious consideration.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-brown-racist-franklin/
     
    You are crazy as a rat in a tin shithouse, Corvie....lol


    Seek counseling and/or medication immediately.
  151. @Corvinus
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Here is something you, as well as the commenters of this fine blog, need to take into serious consideration.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-brown-racist-franklin/

    Perhaps even Mr. Sailer will learn a thing or two!

    Replies: @bruce county, @GeneralRipper

    Thanks for stopping by.
    Now would you go clean the toilet.

  152. @BB753
    @anonymous

    Sadly, I fear that NASA will be a lot like the Zambian space program in two generations or so.

    Replies: @bruce county

    NASA is no longer the only game in town. They are under funded and over priced.
    Space X and ESA are the new kids in town.

    • Agree: BB753
  153. @Corvinus
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Here is something you, as well as the commenters of this fine blog, need to take into serious consideration.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-brown-racist-franklin/

    Perhaps even Mr. Sailer will learn a thing or two!

    Replies: @bruce county, @GeneralRipper

    Here is something you, as well as the commenters of this fine blog, need to take into serious consideration.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-brown-racist-franklin/

    You are crazy as a rat in a tin shithouse, Corvie….lol

    Seek counseling and/or medication immediately.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Troll: Corvinus
  154. @Gianni in Guernsey
    I liked him better when he was plagiarizing.

    Biden 3 16 says I just whipped your abs.
    vein video Vinci.
    If you smell what the Biden is cooking.
    Ein volK Ein Reich.
    what ca gonna do when Biden comes after ewe.?
    is filmed before a live studio audience.

    Replies: @David In TN, @anon

    This is not about Biden. It is about: who is controlling Biden?

  155. @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    When VP Henry Wallace, a seed geneticist, was a boy, his family was close friends with George Washington Carver.
     
    Wallace received almost as many votes in 1948 as did Strom Thurmond, 1,157,328 (2.37%) vs. 1,175,930 (2.41%). But it was spread among the 45 states where he was balloted. Thurmond only ran in 17, but won four of them outright, for 38 electors, plus a stray "faithless". It was kind of a preview of the Wallace and Perot runs.

    You'd think a seed geneticist could figure out the Electoral College. Barry Commoner, a cellular biologist, did even worse in 1980, though the unlucky name "Barry" didn't help either.

    Or maybe Americans just don't want to put scientists in charge.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Servant of Gla'aki

    You’d think a seed geneticist could figure out the Electoral College. Barry Commoner, a cellular biologist, did even worse in 1980, though the unlucky name “Barry” didn’t help either.

    My father, and his best friend (who was the retired chairman of the Sociology department at UCLA), both voted for Commoner that night, on a whim. I have never come across any other person who claims to have done that. It’s 40 years later, so I probably never will.

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