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From Jewish Insider:
Beto: I respect Nike’s decision to pull American flag shoes
By Ben Jacobs
July 3, 2019Marshalltown, Iowa — Democratic presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke told reporters on Wednesday that he “respected the decision Nike made” to pull special edition tennis shoes with images of the American flag from the market after former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick reportedly complained.
The shoes featured the original American flag with 13 stars and stripes designed by Betsy Ross in 1777 that has been adopted by some white nationalist groups and, as a result, drew opprobrium from Kaepernick. The decision has brought major backlash from those who simply view the flag as a symbol of the United States. A similar flag was featured at both inaugurations of Barack Obama. A number of lawmakers have condemned the decision and Arizona’s Republican governor Doug Ducey has pulled economic incentives for a Nike manufacturing facility in the state.
When asked about the decision by reporters at the Iowa Veterans Home in Marshalltown, O’Rourke noted that the flag had been adopted as a symbol by some extremists and white nationalists. He noted that with the legacy of slavery and segregation “I think its really important to take into account the impression that that kind of symbol would have for many of our fellow Americans. So I respect the decision Nike made and more importantly grateful for the conversation that this is producing.”
Sure, Betsy Ross used to be a feminist heroine, but in 2019 what matters is that she was white … and therefore Bad.
OT: Wesley Yang might be on to something about the trigger for the great awokening being metrics derived from social media data sold to companies that concluded SJW clickbait was the most profitable content. Not long after the Tory government reduced the BBCs budget the BBC News.com content went off a cliff into Vice land.
Venezuela’s transgender community fears hormone shortages
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-48810720
Social media vastly amplified the effect, and lots of media quickly jumped on board to capitalize.
Hopefully we develop some cultural means of countering it. I'm cautiously optimistic, but I think it's going to get worse before it gets better.
Beto: I respect Nike’s decision to pull American flag shoes
Democrats, even more than Republicans, respect their corporate owners.
First time I’ve ever heard that “the flag had been adopted as a symbol by some extremists and white nationalists.” I can’t remember the last time even seeing the flag before this controversy. Probably on a knick knack in a gift shop somewhere.
You only ever heard about Betsy Ross in elementary school, where they made a big deal about her in US history class and exaggerated her importance. She’s a token figure, like Harriet Tubman, and like Tubman nobody would remember her if they didn’t force kids in school to spend an inordinate time learning about her.
When the country was fallin' apart, Betsy Ross got it all sewed up....
In her case, it was a case of double fakery. In the early decades after the Revolution, nobody gave a damn about American history and many of the historic sites connected to the Revolution and the Founding Fathers were allowed to fall into ruin or be demolished - they were just old buildings and America had a country to build. Betsy Ross/Ashburne/Claypoole (she kept outliving her husbands) was just an old lady and there was some family lore that got passed down.
The first time she was dug up in the 1st wave of interest about Revolutionary history in the 1870's, in time for the Centennial. The first time her story appears in print, it's written by her grandson over a century after the events supposed occurred. You can imagine that even if there was some kernel of truth to the story, it was embellished after a century of oral repetition. Finally in the 1930s, her house (or actually the house next door to hers) is imaginatively reconstructed and turned into a museum/tourist attraction called the "Betsy Ross House".
Then in the 1970s you have the feminist wave and a distinct shortage of female historical figures who actually contributed anything to the Revolution. So Betsy gets another boost (and a major bridge over the Delaware named for her).
It's all going well for her until the Nazis adopt her flag as a symbol and now this person of pallor is another symbol of hate. How soon before the bridge is renamed? Harriet Tubman Bridge is available.
And then one day, they realized the Umited States was created by a bunch of honkies……
That's fake news, right? The founders of the USA were black, I'm sure I've heard of movies or something about it. They're constantly clearing up that old junk we were taught, usually in movies or TV specials.
Even the Daughters of the American Revolution are trying to shore up their sagging membership by diversifying.
I think what must be going on is that the ‘woke’ are dominating the nominating process.
It’s the only way to explain why virtually every Democratic candidate is making statements that will prove suicidal in the general election. They must feel they have to say these things now if they’re to have any hope of getting the nomination — and then if they do get the nomination, they’ll just have to disavow them as best they can.
This has happened before; albeit not to quite this degree of absurdity. The pattern is that the party nominates a centrist candidate in the wake of a Democratic presidency — but the centrist loses. Then the militants seized control of the machinery and nominate one of their own. Consider Humphrey-McGovern, Carter-Mondale, and now Clinton-whoever we’re going to get. The only exception I can think of was Gore-Kerry.
Interestingly, the Republicans did the same thing with Nixon (in 1960) and Goldwater.
At any rate, if this paradigm holds true in 2020, the Democrat will nominate some ghastly paragon of wokeness — who will be crushed by Trump-Pence.
Well, also, she lived in a time which is now seen as ‘problematic’ in terms of race relations. Incredibly enough, all times are now seen as problematic in that regard, including and especially our own. Therefore, all white people are presumed guilty until proven innocent–which they won’t be, of course–and if you dare mention that other races were ever guilty of racism, we have a trap door for you. Right this way.
The PC/SJW mantra: Everything before yesterday is wrong.
Following such a totem makes it easier to change the rules today--and tomorrow too, if today's change doesn't have the intended effect. The intended effect, of course, being "whatever we feel like" tomorrow, as the one who has the power determines "how high" you need to jump today.
It’s worse than that, seemingly any reference to pre-1965 America is racist now.
For the first six years — 1959-1965 — of our current flag’s career, blacks were still second-class citizens in the South. It won’t be long, then, before our current flag is ruled “offensive”. Maybe it’ll be replaced with the LGBT rainbow flag…
The new American flag should be black to symbolize the color of the people upon whose backs the nation was built. And it should pay homage to the many black bodies who were destroyed by America's systemic racism - perhaps by symbolically displaying the bones of those victims.
Ladies, Gentlemen, and Non-Binary Persons, please rise for the raising of your new national flag:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41BSVR4HMPL._SX425_.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpqUmkRY7So
That thought crossed my mind too. Stay tuned.
Off topic: Golfocaust! at 12:24 on the Joe Rogan Podcast.
The two worst things that have ever happened in the FUSA:
First, letting that blobs forefathers in. Two, letting those slave ships land.
Note the first five letters of his name. He certainly is.
Beto O’Rourke =
Broke our toe.
Took our beer.
Those who are uncomfortable with our first flag see America and White people as the same thing. In doing so, they are admitting that this is our nation.
If “they” (however many there might actually be) are bothered by our first flag because they associate it with Whiteness, then they are admitting that the United States has always been a White nation with minority appendages.
They are uncomfortable with what this nation is, because it was created by White people.
By admitting this is a White nation, they concede our point to us. This is not a proposition nation, but a nation of American White people.
The debate is over, and we declare victory.
With
BetaBeto O’Rourke you get a lot of boilerplate leftist rhetoric and little else.BetaBeto for America' sticker -- only $5 (PACK OF TWO!).link
https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-ji4m1ij20h/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/166/480/bfa-store-trans-sticker__32075.1559596266.png
Points for honesty, at least.
Becky Ross is perfect.
Because the black crime rate immediately after emancipation and through the early 20th century was no different from what it is today. Southern politicians shrewdly segregated their cities and towns to protect whites from the savagery of blacks. Blacks owe whites reparations for 50s and 60s blockbusting and the rape epidemic they unleashed on white women after the “civil rights” movement.
BetaBeto O'Rourke you get a lot of boilerplate leftist rhetoric and little else.https://twitter.com/BetoORourke/status/1112047047195197441
Don’t be confused or misled — this is not the ‘Betsy Ross Variant’, rather the ‘Trans Pride Variant’ of the ‘
BetaBeto for America’ sticker — only $5 (PACK OF TWO!).link
after former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick reportedly complained.
Is there any evidence this actually happened? The right wing outrage machine sure loves trivial crap like this. Just ignore our President selling the US out to Saudi Arabia while we vent about running shoes.
Remember when putting the flag on any sort of merchandise was considered disgraceful?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_fxJhAju65fo/S3rA8-BjrEI/AAAAAAAAAG8/Fyj6J0FS3is/s320/06222005-abbieflagshirt.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8Ty-lj5Y4u4/UG1tyLTTfJI/AAAAAAAAy3k/biT5QKrMwJU/s1600/EASY%2BRIDER7.jpg
From those hippy protest origins, the trend, like most things countercultural in America, became domesticated and went on to toys and beach towels and everything else -- even sneakers.
Communication professors have been known to say this is how our culture absorbs and neutralizes interior threats.
https://image.brazilianbikinishop.com/images/products/beachtowel-vagabondbeach-american-dreamer-2.jpg
Actually no I personally don't remember that.
The right wing outrage machine sure loves trivial crap like this.
Is that in any way related to or part of HRC's 'vast right wing conspiracy'? -- asking for a friend.
I don't know how "trivial" it is, seen in the wider context of 'white privilege' and 'institutional racism', where as I said before the moral premise for wealth and asset confiscation is is being established -- since it was all obtained illegitimately.
But I agree it's not a good idea to go overboard with cringe boomer patriotism and make too much of stuff like this, other than to consider whether or not you really want to buy Nike products.
Concern troll is concerned we're concerned about the "wrong" things. Color me shocked.
Is there any evidence this actually happened? The right wing outrage machine sure loves trivial crap like this. Just ignore our President selling the US out to Saudi Arabia while we vent about running shoes.
Remember when putting the flag on any sort of merchandise was considered disgraceful?
The 1960s may have been the time when the flag became trivialized. It was on everything from Abbie Hoffman’s shirt to Peter Fonda’s leather jacket and helmet.
From those hippy protest origins, the trend, like most things countercultural in America, became domesticated and went on to toys and beach towels and everything else — even sneakers.
Communication professors have been known to say this is how our culture absorbs and neutralizes interior threats.
Is there any evidence this actually happened? The right wing outrage machine sure loves trivial crap like this. Just ignore our President selling the US out to Saudi Arabia while we vent about running shoes.
Remember when putting the flag on any sort of merchandise was considered disgraceful?
Remember when putting the flag on any sort of merchandise was considered disgraceful?
Actually no I personally don’t remember that.
The right wing outrage machine sure loves trivial crap like this.
Is that in any way related to or part of HRC’s ‘vast right wing conspiracy’? — asking for a friend.
I don’t know how “trivial” it is, seen in the wider context of ‘white privilege’ and ‘institutional racism’, where as I said before the moral premise for wealth and asset confiscation is is being established — since it was all obtained illegitimately.
But I agree it’s not a good idea to go overboard with cringe boomer patriotism and make too much of stuff like this, other than to consider whether or not you really want to buy Nike products.
Yeah Betsy Ross was White.
Fact.
Another fact is that Colin Kaepernick is not African-American. Look at him, especially in his younger football days when he allowed his white body to be exposed. His mother’s family surname is Russo, and early articles about him never mentioned that his birth father was black. At the most he looks to have a touch of middle eastern or southern Italian or Mediterranean blood. The ability to grow an Afro (or get a perm) does not a Negro make. Someone should entice him to take a good DNA test and expose him as a wannabe like Rachael Dolezal.
The ONLY reason his hate got traction was because he presented as an African-American. If he were exposed as being White, his status and ability to influence would be castrated.
The more Beto sucks up the more he sucks ass.
The Odd Fellows must be getting a little nervous…
The Rebekah Creed (from Wikipedia):
“I am a Rebekah. I believe in the Fatherhood of God, the brotherhood of man and the sisterhood of women. I believe in the watch-words of our Order – Friendship, Love, and Truth. Friendship – is like a golden chain that ties our hearts together. Love – is one of our most precious gifts, the more you give, the more you receive. Truth – is the standard by which we value people. It is the foundation of our Society. I believe that my main concern should be my God, my family and my friends. Then I should reach out to my community and the world. For in God’s eyes we are all brothers and sisters. I am a Rebekah![8]
What does “to respect a company’s marketing decisions” actually mean?
Then he should team up with Mayor Booty Judge.
Today's media has only demure and restrained humor in regard the unusual name Booty Judge
(who slanders cops and bourgeois law with impunity)
Nike as a company is one of the least dependent on the military industrial complex. The actual decision was probably a marketing decision, today’s (black) youth don’t want The (White) Man’s flag on their shoes. Why should they? But don’t worry, US flag themed cruise missiles are still all the rage.
I call BS on this article, stop lying, you had absolutely no plans to drop a few hundred on a pair of Air Betsies. A limited edition Nike might go for more than a few hundred.
Kaepernick reportedly complained, should read, Kaepernick reportedly refused to be seen in public with them.
What’s instructive is to see that this is all part of the ongoing demoralization campaign being waged against traditional America. Know your enemy, and all that.
Know their tactics, too. Fake controversies like this are usually Trojan Horses for introducing something else. In this case, see how effortlessly they’ve elided the Ross flag and “white supremacism.” This is now Official Fact (TM), although it is asserted without evidence. Until this week, no one—Right or Left, white or black—made that association. Now, though, if some kid waves a 13-star flag on July 4th, he’s a racist.
That’s a pretty effective tactic, which works because the purveyors of the lie are confident they will never be called to account. The enemy will only amplify it. And the fools who supposedly work for our side are too busy promising to buy crappy shoes from Nike.
in 1776, slavery was legal in almost all, if not all, of the original 13 colonies. Therefore, the red and white stripes on any American flag have to go – and many of the stars as well.
The new American flag should be black to symbolize the color of the people upon whose backs the nation was built. And it should pay homage to the many black bodies who were destroyed by America’s systemic racism – perhaps by symbolically displaying the bones of those victims.
Ladies, Gentlemen, and Non-Binary Persons, please rise for the raising of your new national flag:
Up until last week the Betsy Ross flag was just a cool Revolutionary War flag. Now if you fly it anywhere in America people will think you are a Nazi. All on the word of one celebrity has-been.
The media controlling our national dialogue (mostly a Jewish media) are destroying our democracy. The American rich who are sponsoring this have become complete traitors to their country.
A civil war seems to be the only thing that will stop these people.
I thought it was pronounced “Butt-Geek”.
Is there any evidence this actually happened? The right wing outrage machine sure loves trivial crap like this. Just ignore our President selling the US out to Saudi Arabia while we vent about running shoes.
Remember when putting the flag on any sort of merchandise was considered disgraceful?
It’s been widely reported in lots of news outlets, and he hasn’t denied it, so – yes.
Yeah, sure, Saudi Arabia, that’s who Trump is in thrall to.
Yes, I do. But that country no longer exists. This is clown-world.
Beto sure has that s**t-eating grin:
Beto O’Rourke Served Poop to Wife; Told Her It Was *Avocado*
How much weed has O’Rourke smoked over the course of his life? Pot might explain a lot about his behavior.
From the Washington Post:
🙂
I believe Nike still flies the American flag at its World Headquarters in Beaverton, Oregon (above Prefontaine Hall, the main visitors entrance).
It has probably been mentioned already, but I’m not sure either Colin Kaepernick or Nike is aware—someone should alert both that the 13 stripes in the current flag represent the 13 original colonies and subsequent states, unforgivably glorifying an age when the nation permitted slavery.
Nike should do the right thing and loudly announce that it will no longer fly the current American flag at any of its properties.
“that has been adopted by some white nationalist groups”
Really? That’s not even on the ADL hate symbology glossary.
“and, as a result”
No. No, no. We were told the flag was inherently racist. No one brought up white nationalism until after the fact.
Unless I am to hear a story about an ex-49ers legend marching into head offices after his woke girlfriend got trolled online by a guy with a Betsy Ross avatar and screename WhitesRuulOthersDruul.
I thought it was the Gadsden flag which was seized by the White Supremos. Are they seizing all the flags now?
https://media.bizj.us/view/img/11006602/nike-campus-2018-steve-prefontaine-hall-and-geese-photocathy-cheney*1200xx5472-3078-0-285.jpg
It has probably been mentioned already, but I’m not sure either Colin Kaepernick or Nike is aware—someone should alert both that the 13 stripes in the current flag represent the 13 original colonies and subsequent states, unforgivably glorifying an age when the nation permitted slavery.
Nike should do the right thing and loudly announce that it will no longer fly the current American flag at any of its properties.
See, that there is what we call Racist Math. Stop counting.
https://twitter.com/dmartosko/status/1146392864479469568
You heard it here first ….
https://www.unz.com/isteve/colin-kaepernick-vs-betsy-ross/#comment-3305316
Is there any evidence this actually happened? The right wing outrage machine sure loves trivial crap like this. Just ignore our President selling the US out to Saudi Arabia while we vent about running shoes.
Remember when putting the flag on any sort of merchandise was considered disgraceful?
Having washed out of his NFL career, Colin Kaepernick is now marketing himself as some sort of Negropontifex Maximus, the kind of high priced interpreter of and liaison to the black community that big corporations are supposed to want to have on staff. He has to make moves like this from time to time to keep up the facade that his ersatz position has any relevancy. I’m thinking the whole thing is going to be rather short-lived.
He is marketing himself as a real man that told The Man to F himself. In a world of cowardly submissive men, Kaepernick is King. His actual record of achievements is irrelevant. The American Flag shoes were unlikely to sell to Nike's black youth base, and to be honest the White people complaining are not going to buy them either. So why should Nike make them? If White people want American flag shoes, White people should make them, buy them and wear them.
Just ask Tennessee Coates.
Awkward.
These ‘extremists’ should adopt a portrait of Beto, and we can all watch him call for himself to be banned.
If they checked hard enough, I bet white supremacy groups have adopted food, water and shelter too.
Remarkably effective at coopting everything and working reverse stings to get the media promoting their ideas to wider audiences.
OT but Seems like Trump’s nomination of Andrew Bremberg to be the U.S. Representative to the United Nations Office in Geneva should be getting more attention in HBD circles.
“The Trump administration has expanded measures banning federal funding for nongovernmental organizations that provide abortion counseling or advocate the expansion of abortion access abroad, known as the global gag rule. ”
Just great. Let’s watch Africa’s population explode. This is the same crap the GOP always pulls. Talking about restricting immigration while increasing the pool of potential immigrants from shit hole countries exponentially. Stop the problem at the source not at our border.
If the goal is a reduction in African birth rates, the way to get there is through increased use of contraception, which will require major shifts in culture, economics, etc. Perhaps increasing business micro-loans to women, increasing their financial independence and changing their life goals, would be a better use of funds.
Our problem is entirely "at our border". That is the part that Americans both have the right and can easily control.
American policy on foreign aid is largerly irrelevant--tweaking at the margins. The fertility of other nations is certainly worthy of note, but utlimately not in our power to control without very abusive colonization.
But our survival, can not and need not depend on altering the fertilty of other nations, peoples, races. It depends only on absolute control of our border--which is ridiculously straigthforward.
“Is there any evidence this actually happened? The right wing outrage machine sure loves trivial crap like this.”
Well, it was widely reported in the media, so you’d think he’d contradict it if it weren’t true. Nice deflection though. Your side once again exposes itself as the monsters you are and, rather than admit the truth of the situation, you minimize and cast aspersions on the victim without any kind of evidence. Remind yourself of that “right-wing outrage machine” the next time your left-wing outrage mob chases away a white actor from a movie project for the crime of their skin color, of which there are many examples.
Succinct but effective:
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/cultural-marxism-enemy-of-real-marxism/
“Just great. Let’s watch Africa’s population explode.”
Well, doing something about it could be construed as racist, so don’t expect anything.
“This is the same crap the GOP always pulls. Talking about restricting immigration while increasing the pool of potential immigrants from shit hole countries exponentially. Stop the problem at the source not at our border.”
Don’t hold your breath. The American political system is a corporate oligarchy. The people don’t really have any power. The only thing that matters is short term profit for those who have the money to influence politicians. That means not going against the grain until the system collapses – make money and cash out. That’s what a lack of national cohesion will get you. Welcome to the proposition nation.
The great French photographer, Henri Cartier Bresson, took that picture in Cape Cod in 1947 on the Fourth of July and observed later
“This woman explained to me that the flagpole over her door was broken but on a day like this one keeps one’s flag over one’s heart. In her I felt a touch of the strength of American pioneers.”
As recently as two decades ago, the photograph, the photographer and the sentiment would have been understood to be representative of a certain liberal, sympathetic sensibility.
I cannot image this picture or that comment being held up as an example of benevolent, liberal, humanism by today’s cultural arbiters.
They would likely label the image as embodying a narcissistic white gaze upon white privilege, and say that the image is from a time of oppression of the black body and its erasure from representation. Or some such.
Including the picture in an exhibition on America today, except to denigrate the woman as an example from a racist America, would likely be problematic.
Is there any evidence this actually happened? The right wing outrage machine sure loves trivial crap like this. Just ignore our President selling the US out to Saudi Arabia while we vent about running shoes.
Remember when putting the flag on any sort of merchandise was considered disgraceful?
Who’s this “we” of whom you speak, you surprising man?
So withholding government funding for abortion promotion in Africa “exponentially” increases the African birth rate? How can you expect to be taken seriously when such silly stuff pops out from your keyboard?
Betsy Ross was a Hindu American……..The Wright Brothers were Sihk Brothers of Punjabi ancestry……
I’d like to see the emphasis more on birth control than abortion, but I wish so many conservatives were not so knee-jerk opposed to abortion in the very early stages of pregnancy. Spontaneous abortions occur all the time, and the would-be mother might feel relieved or heartbroken, depending on the circumstances. If I pull up a five-inch sapling that sprouted from an acorn that my large oak tree dropped, it’s not the same as cutting it down when it’s five feet tall or taller.
For one thing, yes, it is exactly the same. For another thing, human beings are not oak trees.
Did any reporters ask Beto exactly which extremists and White Nationalists use the Betsy Ross flag, the names of the organizations their postal addresses websites. Are they non profits registered with the secretary of whatever state they live in?
Come on Beto, show us some evidence. And then show us how you verified the evidence.
BTW I'm just posting this because :
46k subscribers , 5million + views posted 9 years ago . Is it monetized ? Does he get a check ? well I'll share it . Imagine making money like this .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOK4U_pSxGA
The abortion rate in Africa is about 84 per 100,000 women per year. The birth rate in Africa is about 8,000 per 100,000 women per year. So eliminating abortion would make about a 1% increase in the birth rate; from 8,000 to 8,084, assuming that women would make no other changes in contraception use or sexual behavior.
If the goal is a reduction in African birth rates, the way to get there is through increased use of contraception, which will require major shifts in culture, economics, etc. Perhaps increasing business micro-loans to women, increasing their financial independence and changing their life goals, would be a better use of funds.
And when the country was fallin’ apart
Betsy Ross got it all sewed up.
And then there’s Maude!
Maude. The release and success of which marked the moment that the Jewish takeover of American popular culture was complete.
BetaBeto O'Rourke you get a lot of boilerplate leftist rhetoric and little else.https://twitter.com/BetoORourke/status/1112047047195197441
“…the United States must be broken…”
Points for honesty, at least.
Very true, and literally nobody on the face of the Earth disagrees with you. Otherwise, pro-lifers would take much more urgent measures than they do.
I was in Wichita when they went crazy that one summer.
None of them got especially upset that abortion was common and thoroughly accepted in Japan, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fup7Fcs7UM
I saw this yesterday also. What a vile excuse for a biological entity this (((…stein))) thing is. Golf clubs.
The two worst things that have ever happened in the FUSA:
First, letting that blobs forefathers in. Two, letting those slave ships land.
You only ever heard about Betsy Ross in elementary school, where they made a big deal about her in US history class and exaggerated her importance. She's a token figure, like Harriet Tubman, and like Tubman nobody would remember her if they didn't force kids in school to spend an inordinate time learning about her.
Now, wait just a minute.
When the country was fallin’ apart, Betsy Ross got it all sewed up….
Really? That's not even on the ADL hate symbology glossary.
"and, as a result"
No. No, no. We were told the flag was inherently racist. No one brought up white nationalism until after the fact.
Unless I am to hear a story about an ex-49ers legend marching into head offices after his woke girlfriend got trolled online by a guy with a Betsy Ross avatar and screename WhitesRuulOthersDruul.
“…that has been adopted by some white nationalist groups”
I thought it was the Gadsden flag which was seized by the White Supremos. Are they seizing all the flags now?
Democrats, even more than Republicans, respect their corporate owners.
Ridiculous. I respect their right to make that decision. I simply don’t respect the decision, nor do I respect that particular corporate entity (which I’m every bit as free to do as they are to make that decision — assuming it wasn’t just a cynical marketing ploy all along, which I believe it was). Where is it written that I have to respect Nike, who exploits Third World workers along with fanning the flames of racial conflict? I also don’t respect cigarette manufacturers, although I respect their right to exist and operate within the confines of the law.
Methinks you purposely misunderstand…otherwise known as being a troll.
That’s good. That’s really good. Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton aren’t getting any younger…
“Colin Kaepernick is now marketing himself as some sort of Negropontifex Maximus”
He is marketing himself as a real man that told The Man to F himself. In a world of cowardly submissive men, Kaepernick is King. His actual record of achievements is irrelevant. The American Flag shoes were unlikely to sell to Nike’s black youth base, and to be honest the White people complaining are not going to buy them either. So why should Nike make them? If White people want American flag shoes, White people should make them, buy them and wear them.
Venezuela’s transgender community fears hormone shortages
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-48810720
He’s probably right. The Great Awokening was preceded by the Great Triggering (or trolling — whatever you want to call it) that started late last decade.
Social media vastly amplified the effect, and lots of media quickly jumped on board to capitalize.
Hopefully we develop some cultural means of countering it. I’m cautiously optimistic, but I think it’s going to get worse before it gets better.
It was the best of times and the most problematic of times.
Just great.
Something that seems either unknown or unimaginable to people like you: many many people, including taxpayers, regard abortion as immoral, and therefore do not want to be forced to subsidize it, anywhere in the world, via the coercive tax system.
What is so difficult to understand about that?
So actually it is disgustingly wrong that the government underwrites Planned Parenthood, since even though PP advertises itself as a ‘women’s healthcare provider’, 90% of the women who visit a PP clinic do so to get an abortion.
Africa’s population is an African problem — what are you, some kind of “racist” who doesn’t believe Africans can take care of their own population or manage their own population growth? — I do not feel responsible for any population problem in Africa — as a taxpayer, I do not want to be made responsible for it via the coercive tax system.
Contact the Gates Foundation — they have plenty of money and may very well be interested.
You have remarkably wrongheaded takes on a remarkable number of topics.
I am looking forward to Lin-Manuel Miranda’s next musical, where Betsy Ross is a genderqueer person of color whose parents were illegal immigrants.
They’re heavily in it for the delight at the farcical hysteria it creates among the talking classes.
Remarkably effective at coopting everything and working reverse stings to get the media promoting their ideas to wider audiences.
Sikhs and planes dont mix bro…
Edgey….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpqUmkRY7So
Here is a take on this term “cultural marxism” by a real marxist.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/cultural-marxism-enemy-of-real-marxism/
You only ever heard about Betsy Ross in elementary school, where they made a big deal about her in US history class and exaggerated her importance. She's a token figure, like Harriet Tubman, and like Tubman nobody would remember her if they didn't force kids in school to spend an inordinate time learning about her.
“Some extremists and white nationalists”, like “received death threats”, is one of those Current Year claims that any leftist may make, happily requiring no evidence whatsoever.
You may rest assured that either phrase will appear without the slightest vetting in the most once-prestigious media outlets, never followed by so much as a screen-shot – even one pulled out of context. You or I, for instance, might carefully warehouse any such “death threats” made against us to back up any claim we make regarding harassment……but of course the first instinct of the Fourth Estate will be to blithely dismiss such evidence as wholly spurious or otherwise open to question….whereas “say-so” death threats are swallowed whole, dependent of course upon the ideology of the accuser.
You only ever heard about Betsy Ross in elementary school, where they made a big deal about her in US history class and exaggerated her importance. She's a token figure, like Harriet Tubman, and like Tubman nobody would remember her if they didn't force kids in school to spend an inordinate time learning about her.
If one badthinker or troll twitter account used it one time, that is all they need. They want to destroy our history and will use any excuse they think will be accepted as remotely plausible.
Knike with a silent n
I call BS on this article, stop lying, you had absolutely no plans to drop a few hundred on a pair of Air Betsies. A limited edition Nike might go for more than a few hundred.
Kaepernick reportedly complained, should read, Kaepernick reportedly refused to be seen in public with them.
This is the right perspective, George. The story itself is BS, and the “controversy” is pure show biz. Just look at how lame the design work is: simply slapping the flag on back. Nike had no intention of marketing these, and didn’t spend a penny more on unnecessary design than would be necessary to make a didactic point.
What’s instructive is to see that this is all part of the ongoing demoralization campaign being waged against traditional America. Know your enemy, and all that.
Know their tactics, too. Fake controversies like this are usually Trojan Horses for introducing something else. In this case, see how effortlessly they’ve elided the Ross flag and “white supremacism.” This is now Official Fact (TM), although it is asserted without evidence. Until this week, no one—Right or Left, white or black—made that association. Now, though, if some kid waves a 13-star flag on July 4th, he’s a racist.
That’s a pretty effective tactic, which works because the purveyors of the lie are confident they will never be called to account. The enemy will only amplify it. And the fools who supposedly work for our side are too busy promising to buy crappy shoes from Nike.
OT: A Project Syndicate (funded by Soros and Gates) op-ed says we don’t need immigration:
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/automation-favors-shrinking-populations-by-adair-turner-2019-07
There’s a saying about a dead girl or live boy that comes to mind.
That grift will have nine lives at least. Lotta rich white snobs out there just begging to have their vanity indulged.
Just ask Tennessee Coates.
This flag was used by some of those guys too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnI8SUQPB4k&t=2m0s
The US Navy’s jack, which is flown on ships and worn as a patch, is a take on the Gadsden Flag which is used by right wingers.
Of course as others have pointed out, if the other side is going to use Kaepernick and Beto’s definitions, the list about what to ban is almost endless.
This really does offer up an opportunity to make them look like fools. Recall the “I’ts OK to be White” signs that made them chase their tails. Recall the false rumor about the OK hand sign that caused them to melt down.
They appear to have given us the ability to weaponize any symbol we choose just by letting them think we like it.
“A number of lawmakers have condemned the decision and Arizona’s Republican governor Doug Ducey has pulled economic incentives for a Nike manufacturing facility in the state.”
Now just what would Nike be “manufacturing” in Arizona that could conceivably be worth business location tax incentives?
Outcry on behalf of a company built on slave labor that does everything possible to avoid paying American taxes
Ellipses have only three dots and should not be used to end a complete sentence. Also, you are nuts.
It's the only way to explain why virtually every Democratic candidate is making statements that will prove suicidal in the general election. They must feel they have to say these things now if they're to have any hope of getting the nomination -- and then if they do get the nomination, they'll just have to disavow them as best they can.
This has happened before; albeit not to quite this degree of absurdity. The pattern is that the party nominates a centrist candidate in the wake of a Democratic presidency -- but the centrist loses. Then the militants seized control of the machinery and nominate one of their own. Consider Humphrey-McGovern, Carter-Mondale, and now Clinton-whoever we're going to get. The only exception I can think of was Gore-Kerry.
Interestingly, the Republicans did the same thing with Nixon (in 1960) and Goldwater.
At any rate, if this paradigm holds true in 2020, the Democrat will nominate some ghastly paragon of wokeness -- who will be crushed by Trump-Pence.
You’re an optimist. I’m afraid one of those Dems will win, and instead of suicide it’ll be homicide — with the USA in the role of victim.
https://www.270towin.com/historical_maps/1972_large.png
*the 1970's, however, was also (in my view) the start of the major societal decline in America. Drug addiction started becoming more mainstream (i.e. among "ordinary" people) as did other forms of licentiousness, spurred on by things like contraception and Roe v. Wade. The 1960's was when the meteor hit. The 1970's was when the ash started falling. IMO, most of the negative impact was reversible, but most conservative or ordinary people were under the impression that America had survived the 1960's, so they paid little attention to what was going on in the '70's.
BTW you can tell him what you think at https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/ . The other night after I'd had a few I sent a message to him telling him he was a dumbass for picking a fight with Iran . I know Orange Man doesn't read it but someone must even if only to monitor for threats . It's fun to troll the president .
The majority of People support "wokeness" and are committed to taking down white men
But this doesn’t really have anything to do with Betsy Ross.
“For the first six years — 1959-1965 — of our current flag’s career, blacks were still second-class citizens in the South”
That thought crossed my mind too. Stay tuned.
“…created by honkies.”
That’s fake news, right? The founders of the USA were black, I’m sure I’ve heard of movies or something about it. They’re constantly clearing up that old junk we were taught, usually in movies or TV specials.
Even the Daughters of the American Revolution are trying to shore up their sagging membership by diversifying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fup7Fcs7UM
LOL.
It's the only way to explain why virtually every Democratic candidate is making statements that will prove suicidal in the general election. They must feel they have to say these things now if they're to have any hope of getting the nomination -- and then if they do get the nomination, they'll just have to disavow them as best they can.
This has happened before; albeit not to quite this degree of absurdity. The pattern is that the party nominates a centrist candidate in the wake of a Democratic presidency -- but the centrist loses. Then the militants seized control of the machinery and nominate one of their own. Consider Humphrey-McGovern, Carter-Mondale, and now Clinton-whoever we're going to get. The only exception I can think of was Gore-Kerry.
Interestingly, the Republicans did the same thing with Nixon (in 1960) and Goldwater.
At any rate, if this paradigm holds true in 2020, the Democrat will nominate some ghastly paragon of wokeness -- who will be crushed by Trump-Pence.
Oh, how I hope that might prove true (and I’m no Trump enthusiast)! But the Democrats start with a huge electoral college advantage, and the demographic changes in the U.S. means that identity, not policy positions, increasingly dominate the electoral process. And Trump’s base in demoralized, although I concede there remain more true believers than I would have predicted. Finally, for many leftist whites the statements that you find suicidal sound quite reasonable.
If "they" (however many there might actually be) are bothered by our first flag because they associate it with Whiteness, then they are admitting that the United States has always been a White nation with minority appendages.
They are uncomfortable with what this nation is, because it was created by White people.
By admitting this is a White nation, they concede our point to us. This is not a proposition nation, but a nation of American White people.
The debate is over, and we declare victory.
Are you Gregory Hood posting under a different moniker? That’s essentially the argument that he made over at American Renaissance. Trouble is, nations can be transformed and that’s what’s going on now.
Beto is the ideological brother of Canada’s Justin Trudeau.
Trudeau painted himself into a corner with virtue signalling and buffoonery. Beto is on his way there.
BetaBeto for America' sticker -- only $5 (PACK OF TWO!).link
https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-ji4m1ij20h/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/166/480/bfa-store-trans-sticker__32075.1559596266.png
I thought Cory Booker had nailed down the Trans vote, but maybe that was only the African American Trans-American part of it.
LOL–I think it means “I respect their bullshit.”
Who in the GOP is talking about restricting immigration? Even Trump, who at least talks about it, isn’t doing anything significant to actually restrict it.
You only ever heard about Betsy Ross in elementary school, where they made a big deal about her in US history class and exaggerated her importance. She's a token figure, like Harriet Tubman, and like Tubman nobody would remember her if they didn't force kids in school to spend an inordinate time learning about her.
When the left wants to get rid of something it will pro forma accuse ‘white supremacists’ of supporting it.
Isn’t it sad that we’re living in a time when “Trans-American” doesn’t refer to a trans-continental mega-project but rather to a squalid and self-absorbed pervert, who we are all required to celebrate. We have fallen so low here in the West.
Somewhat related:
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/04/are-americans-falling-out-of-love-with-their-landmarks-227258
Attendance at historic sites like Williamsburg and Gettysburg are at 10 year lows.
I conducted the Sailer Test and searched for the text string, “immigra” and got nothing.
You only ever heard about Betsy Ross in elementary school, where they made a big deal about her in US history class and exaggerated her importance. She's a token figure, like Harriet Tubman, and like Tubman nobody would remember her if they didn't force kids in school to spend an inordinate time learning about her.
It’s not even clear that the Betsy Ross story is true or whether it’s one of these George Washington chopping down the cherry tree fake stories.
In her case, it was a case of double fakery. In the early decades after the Revolution, nobody gave a damn about American history and many of the historic sites connected to the Revolution and the Founding Fathers were allowed to fall into ruin or be demolished – they were just old buildings and America had a country to build. Betsy Ross/Ashburne/Claypoole (she kept outliving her husbands) was just an old lady and there was some family lore that got passed down.
The first time she was dug up in the 1st wave of interest about Revolutionary history in the 1870’s, in time for the Centennial. The first time her story appears in print, it’s written by her grandson over a century after the events supposed occurred. You can imagine that even if there was some kernel of truth to the story, it was embellished after a century of oral repetition. Finally in the 1930s, her house (or actually the house next door to hers) is imaginatively reconstructed and turned into a museum/tourist attraction called the “Betsy Ross House”.
Then in the 1970s you have the feminist wave and a distinct shortage of female historical figures who actually contributed anything to the Revolution. So Betsy gets another boost (and a major bridge over the Delaware named for her).
It’s all going well for her until the Nazis adopt her flag as a symbol and now this person of pallor is another symbol of hate. How soon before the bridge is renamed? Harriet Tubman Bridge is available.
The SJWs don't know what hit 'em.
It would be natural to ask a weaver for questions about design.
I sure wouldn’t want to be Rick Monday right now….
I’m not sure how it happened. I just noticed my comments are being posted under the name
Clifford Brown. To the real Clifford Brown, I’m sorry. I don’t know what happened.
FYI:
https://twitter.com/AngelaDSaini/status/1147057233966112769
There were many whites during the founding of the country that had absolutely no connection to or relationship with blacks. At the time, there was no problem. There were huge swaths in the north where many whites probably never even saw black people other than a few rare times. So in once sense, the problem in “problematic” is that they do not know how to plausibly write in a fake black character to have been Ross’ inspiration or friend who helped but did not get credit.
The only sad part of the Democrat strategy to insult America at every opportunity is the number of Americans, or that there is any number, who will vote for this.
The worldwide standard will be twenty weeks or thereabouts within ten years and there will be little support for any other.
My concern is larger than that. I find myself being less drawn to the “our next election will determine the direction of our country,” mindset. I think the direction of our country has become apparent to all of us; even having the president we want in office doesn’t seem to make that much of a difference, although things could certainly be worse than they are now (without Trump.)
The dark cloud is that it’s unlikely there will ever be another manifestation of the 1972 electoral map, which was something much more emblematic than an election result. The map doesn’t represent Nixon’s or the Republican party’s popularity, it represents America’s rejection of the radical leftist mindset…personified, rightly or wrongly, in McGovern. In 1972, America was sick of the radical and divisive 1960’s, hence the map of one color.
Not coincidentally, 1972* is when 1950’s nostalgia caught on big time. People didn’t know what to make of their present or future, so some people clung to a simplistic and comforting version of a past that many of them could recall personally (with a somewhat selective memory.)
*the 1970’s, however, was also (in my view) the start of the major societal decline in America. Drug addiction started becoming more mainstream (i.e. among “ordinary” people) as did other forms of licentiousness, spurred on by things like contraception and Roe v. Wade. The 1960’s was when the meteor hit. The 1970’s was when the ash started falling. IMO, most of the negative impact was reversible, but most conservative or ordinary people were under the impression that America had survived the 1960’s, so they paid little attention to what was going on in the ’70’s.
Sometimes the comments are satires of satires
For those who've read her autobiography Chrissie Hynde is a reasonable example of a kid raised by very conventional parents who got swept up in the riptide. (How her English and Welsh immigrant parents wound up Lutheran rather than Episcopal or Pres is an interesting story on its own, I'll bet.)
The Sixties (and I define "the Sixties" as a period from 8/8/1962 to 8/8/1974, but really getting started in earnest in early '64) directly impacted Fringe Americans much more than Core Americans. The very wealthy, the very poor, people heavily steeped in Eastern or Middle Eastern (not Western Christianity) religions or mysticism, residents of places like San Francisco, and people clearly identifying as nonwhite, were most swept up in it.
It wasn't until the seventies that Middle America "got with it". The wheels started coming off the wagon shortly thereafter. The reaction was swift-Jerry Falwell's Moral Majority and the election of Ronald Reagan-but it was not very thorough. middle clss mres were permanently impcted, nd the will to fight leftism had largely been eviscerated.
In her case, it was a case of double fakery. In the early decades after the Revolution, nobody gave a damn about American history and many of the historic sites connected to the Revolution and the Founding Fathers were allowed to fall into ruin or be demolished - they were just old buildings and America had a country to build. Betsy Ross/Ashburne/Claypoole (she kept outliving her husbands) was just an old lady and there was some family lore that got passed down.
The first time she was dug up in the 1st wave of interest about Revolutionary history in the 1870's, in time for the Centennial. The first time her story appears in print, it's written by her grandson over a century after the events supposed occurred. You can imagine that even if there was some kernel of truth to the story, it was embellished after a century of oral repetition. Finally in the 1930s, her house (or actually the house next door to hers) is imaginatively reconstructed and turned into a museum/tourist attraction called the "Betsy Ross House".
Then in the 1970s you have the feminist wave and a distinct shortage of female historical figures who actually contributed anything to the Revolution. So Betsy gets another boost (and a major bridge over the Delaware named for her).
It's all going well for her until the Nazis adopt her flag as a symbol and now this person of pallor is another symbol of hate. How soon before the bridge is renamed? Harriet Tubman Bridge is available.
Hold your horses there cowboy. We may be a little late to this narrative game but we can spin some yarns with the best of them.
The SJWs don’t know what hit ’em.
Booty and Cutie for 2020
You only ever heard about Betsy Ross in elementary school, where they made a big deal about her in US history class and exaggerated her importance. She's a token figure, like Harriet Tubman, and like Tubman nobody would remember her if they didn't force kids in school to spend an inordinate time learning about her.
I read a lot written by white nationalists and I have never heard them mention the flag before this week either.
Wait a second… Nike was about to put a historic flag on the heel of a sneaker? My father, who hated Cab Calloway for his disrespectful rendition of the national anthem, would have had something to say about that.
Dragging Old Glory through mud, dog turds, and drunks’ vomit…
The real disgrace here is that patriotic Americans didn’t beat Colicky Colin to the punch in calling Nike out.
Yeah , watching all the Conservatives gloating over the antics of the Dem candidates makes me uneasy as it reminds me of all those “I’m with her” websites and MSM outlets . Sanders or Biden could beat Trump I think . Hell even that vile Harris person might beat him . Trump isn’t going to arouse anywhere as near as much enthusiasm this time around . I’m sick of his antics myself . The only reason I would vote for the fool is to give Barr enough time to put some people in jail where they belong .
BTW you can tell him what you think at https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/ . The other night after I’d had a few I sent a message to him telling him he was a dumbass for picking a fight with Iran . I know Orange Man doesn’t read it but someone must even if only to monitor for threats . It’s fun to troll the president .
Off topic: Re the Buttigieg black crime question: The official position of MSNBC this morning appears to be that blacks do not commit crime at higher rates than whites. I sense a little bit of nervousness in the mainstream about having this conversation out in the open. Haven’t watched CNN yet but I doubt they’re spending much time on it. Fox I’m sure won’t touch it either.
The new American flag should be black to symbolize the color of the people upon whose backs the nation was built. And it should pay homage to the many black bodies who were destroyed by America's systemic racism - perhaps by symbolically displaying the bones of those victims.
Ladies, Gentlemen, and Non-Binary Persons, please rise for the raising of your new national flag:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41BSVR4HMPL._SX425_.jpg
Legal in all states in 1776.
We must tread carefully here….WHICH lgbt flag? Is it the one with nine stripes, or eleven? Does the diaper face rightwards or is it slightly angled upwards?
New Hampshire Senator Jeanne “Missouri Mean” Shaheen once wanted to replace Alexander Hamilton on the ten dollar bill with some woman who did something or other somewhere at some time.
US Sen. Missouri Mean Jeanne Shaheen had her flintlock Kentucky Long Rifle aimed at Andrew Jackson, but she wants to replace a White man with a woman come what may. Shaheen is hankering on targeting and removing and replacing all White men, and she don’t give a damn about being kind to Hamilton just because some Puerto Rican made a play about him that upper middle class White arseholes like so much.
US Sen. Jeanne Shaheen has now lost her Missouri marbles about Scotch-Irish warrior and statesman Andrew Jackson on the twenty dollar bill. Shaheen is now howling at the moon and ranting like a madwoman about replacing and removing Andrew Jackson with Harriet Tubman, and this woman, despite her pleasant politician demeanor, is a ferocious harpy capable of the most outlandish horrors.
US Sen. Jeanne Shaheen might be of some Scotch-Irish ancestry, but that didn’t stop her from deliberately attacking the great Scotch-Irish president and general, Andrew Jackson. Why did US Senator Jeanne Shaheen deliberately attack a Scotch-Irish hero like Andrew Jackson? Jeanne Shaheen is Missouri mean and her lovely smile and sweet ways should be seen as what they are: a politician’s trick to put you at ease while she sneakily attacks and pilfers the public at large!
I have previously called for Molly Pitcher to replace that dirtbag banker rat Alexander Hamilton on the ten dollar bill, so I don’t want to hear any bellyaching from you overly sensitive broads out there.
Tweet from 2015:
Kamala Harris will win the erection
The majority of People support “wokeness” and are committed to taking down white men
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tX-tdBM8Skw/XHyWkPLynVI/AAAAAAACV0s/sNR4wW1DEKoLsfwZWZHDxnUMjuzumITngCLcBGAs/s1600/11kam222.jpg
Is there any evidence this actually happened? The right wing outrage machine sure loves trivial crap like this. Just ignore our President selling the US out to Saudi Arabia while we vent about running shoes.
Remember when putting the flag on any sort of merchandise was considered disgraceful?
To which President are you referring? Eisenhower? Carter? Either Bush?
“Cuz the culture wars don’t matter, as long as I have the Constitution!”
Concern troll is concerned we’re concerned about the “wrong” things. Color me shocked.
In her case, it was a case of double fakery. In the early decades after the Revolution, nobody gave a damn about American history and many of the historic sites connected to the Revolution and the Founding Fathers were allowed to fall into ruin or be demolished - they were just old buildings and America had a country to build. Betsy Ross/Ashburne/Claypoole (she kept outliving her husbands) was just an old lady and there was some family lore that got passed down.
The first time she was dug up in the 1st wave of interest about Revolutionary history in the 1870's, in time for the Centennial. The first time her story appears in print, it's written by her grandson over a century after the events supposed occurred. You can imagine that even if there was some kernel of truth to the story, it was embellished after a century of oral repetition. Finally in the 1930s, her house (or actually the house next door to hers) is imaginatively reconstructed and turned into a museum/tourist attraction called the "Betsy Ross House".
Then in the 1970s you have the feminist wave and a distinct shortage of female historical figures who actually contributed anything to the Revolution. So Betsy gets another boost (and a major bridge over the Delaware named for her).
It's all going well for her until the Nazis adopt her flag as a symbol and now this person of pallor is another symbol of hate. How soon before the bridge is renamed? Harriet Tubman Bridge is available.
Wikipedia quotes a flag purchase order to her from the Con Congress.
It would be natural to ask a weaver for questions about design.
It would be natural for seamstress ladies to keep their mouth shut and do as their betters instruct them. It's possible that the family legend about her suggesting a change from a 6 to a 5 pointed star is true but this is a pretty minor contribution and not worthy of elevating her to the ranks of the Founding Fathers. If the Federalist Papers are a 10 then designing the flag (Hopkinson) is a .1 and taking a point off a star (Ross) is a .0001.
Dragging Old Glory through mud, dog turds, and drunks' vomit...
The real disgrace here is that patriotic Americans didn't beat Colicky Colin to the punch in calling Nike out.
Special edition Nikes never touch any mud. They are collected as an investment.
“Sure, Betsy Ross used to be a feminist heroine, but in 2019 what matters is that she was white…
BetaBeto O'Rourke you get a lot of boilerplate leftist rhetoric and little else.https://twitter.com/BetoORourke/status/1112047047195197441
That doesn’t sound leftist to me. It sounds anti-semitic.
Ha ha. Great idea. That would be an awesome troll.
Exactly. If you breathe, you’re like Hitler.
Democrats, even more than Republicans, respect their corporate owners.
correction: corporate masters
In one of his books, Carl Sagan proposed three months as a reasonable line.
He reasoned that the human part of the brain begins forming at that point. It’s been a long time since I read that book, whichever one it was, so I’m not sure if he meant just the cerebral cortex, or a more developed, exclusively human, top portion of it.
Doctors or other experts here can no doubt clarify how developed the brain of a human fetus is at the end of the first trimester.
Anyway, this proposal has always seemed reasonable to me, and it would be my personal choice for whatever our abortion laws should be. As I also recall, Sagan made a pretty good case that for much that early stage a human fetus is practically indistinguishable from that of a lower animal. The way he described it, the fetus grows through stages that resemble stages of evolution.
If there is no human brain yet, there doesn’t seem to be any good legal argument that there is a human being there. The brain is better than the heartbeat that some legislators are proposing as an indicator of personhood.
Oh no, not embryonic recapitulation, often expressed using Ernst Haeckel's phrase "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny.” That theory, previously used in the mid-twentieth century as an argument for Darwinism, has been thoroughly discredited. According to Wikipedia, embryonic recapitulation has long been relegated to “biological mythology.” If Sagan used that, my respect for him has gone down.
Betsy O’Rourke.
Call him that. Pin the tail on the donkey and tie beer can on the bumper of his jalopy of a candidacy. Betsy Ross > Beto O’Rourke.
Exactly wrong.
Our problem is entirely “at our border”. That is the part that Americans both have the right and can easily control.
American policy on foreign aid is largerly irrelevant–tweaking at the margins. The fertility of other nations is certainly worthy of note, but utlimately not in our power to control without very abusive colonization.
But our survival, can not and need not depend on altering the fertilty of other nations, peoples, races. It depends only on absolute control of our border–which is ridiculously straigthforward.
I have just been watching 1984 and the most depressing prediction was that watching the broadcast news is pointless because it is all lies.
He could have disrespected them.
Whites can develop cheap hoaxes too.
Remember this white couple alleging the girl was saved by a homeless man ? I am glad I spotted it despite being quite credulous when I know liers.
There is now another story, on cable news, I feel is a hoax : the guy who spotted a shark with a drone. It’s their vacation house. The guy is a photographer. And the story is always changing and doesn’t make any sense. It either has been enhanced (50) or is a hoax 100% (50%) ….
“Sagan made a pretty good case that for much that early stage a human fetus is practically indistinguishable from that of a lower animal. The way he described it, the fetus grows through stages that resemble stages of evolution.”
Oh no, not embryonic recapitulation, often expressed using Ernst Haeckel’s phrase “ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny.” That theory, previously used in the mid-twentieth century as an argument for Darwinism, has been thoroughly discredited. According to Wikipedia, embryonic recapitulation has long been relegated to “biological mythology.” If Sagan used that, my respect for him has gone down.
My memory of the book is foggy, because I read it 39 years ago. I can't be sure if Sagan was using recapitulation theory as support for his ideas, or just describing it as one of the concepts that have been thought up over time.
However much or little one respects Sagan, at least he was better than Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Huh?
Oh I get it–all of America is a white nationalist group.
Anti-white Whites outnumber pro-White Whites by a bunch.
When the same percentage of the American white population thinks William Pierce and Harold Covington were cool as Israelis who admire and approve of Baruch Goldstein, let me know.
BetaBeto O'Rourke you get a lot of boilerplate leftist rhetoric and little else.https://twitter.com/BetoORourke/status/1112047047195197441
Beto has obviously never heard of the Law of Unintended Consequences,
Yes, as I’ve been saying for quite some time (like beating a dead horse)…
The PC/SJW mantra: Everything before yesterday is wrong.
Following such a totem makes it easier to change the rules today–and tomorrow too, if today’s change doesn’t have the intended effect. The intended effect, of course, being “whatever we feel like” tomorrow, as the one who has the power determines “how high” you need to jump today.
Venezuela’s transgender community fears hormone shortages
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-48810720
Absolutely. It’s what triggered Gamergate, which was actually a successful attack on devs to force them to make games woke. The mysterious power of incompetent game journos to shut down any dissent is finally explained by big-time VC backing.
FIFY.
Somewhere between that and viability, which is why I said twenty weeks. The support for the Plan to control Black Parenthood is too strong to go any earlier.
BetaBeto O'Rourke you get a lot of boilerplate leftist rhetoric and little else.https://twitter.com/BetoORourke/status/1112047047195197441
Robert Francis O’Rourke should look to his family first–especially his in-laws–to set the example the rest of us should pursue…
Oh. Boy.
Just when I thought I was almost done with Serena, they roll Serena Jr. in the nick of time.
The media had a million laughs over the unusual name Booty Fooko (cf. Joey who did jail time)
Today’s media has only demure and restrained humor in regard the unusual name Booty Judge
(who slanders cops and bourgeois law with impunity)
OT:
A member of the NYT editorial board ain’t takin’ any shit from the stale, pale and male:
Cori Gauff won again today, advancing to the 4th round. It will be interesting to see if she can keep playing at a high level as she gets older. The USTA made a strong effort to recruit young blacks into tennis after the Williams sisters broke through in the late 90s. Up until now, Sloane Stephens is about the only success they have had and she is inconsistent.
It would be natural to ask a weaver for questions about design.
From the Betsy wiki.
It would be natural for seamstress ladies to keep their mouth shut and do as their betters instruct them. It’s possible that the family legend about her suggesting a change from a 6 to a 5 pointed star is true but this is a pretty minor contribution and not worthy of elevating her to the ranks of the Founding Fathers. If the Federalist Papers are a 10 then designing the flag (Hopkinson) is a .1 and taking a point off a star (Ross) is a .0001.
Ross for fourteen pounds twelve shillings and two
pence for Making Ships Colours [etc.] put into William
Richards store……………………………………….£14.12.2”
That seems like a ton of money for a few flags if she were merely manufacturing them to a specific order. And the payment was directly to her, so she was the general contractor. 14 pounds was about a year’s wages for an unskilled laborer, maybe 6-9 months in the colonies and during wartime inflation.
OFF TOPIC
The Spirit Of Becky Ross Wants To Know About All The Jew Columnists In The New York Times
https://twitter.com/westland_will/status/1147242913383890944
Oh no, not embryonic recapitulation, often expressed using Ernst Haeckel's phrase "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny.” That theory, previously used in the mid-twentieth century as an argument for Darwinism, has been thoroughly discredited. According to Wikipedia, embryonic recapitulation has long been relegated to “biological mythology.” If Sagan used that, my respect for him has gone down.
I see what you mean, and I just looked up recapitulation theory to learn more. In any case, this isn’t relevant to the suggested 3 month abortion limit. What matters is the point at which the human part of the brain begins to form, not how or if the process resembles evolution.
My memory of the book is foggy, because I read it 39 years ago. I can’t be sure if Sagan was using recapitulation theory as support for his ideas, or just describing it as one of the concepts that have been thought up over time.
However much or little one respects Sagan, at least he was better than Neil deGrasse Tyson.
https://twitter.com/AngelaDSaini/status/1147057233966112769
It’s your big break Steve! Jump on that.
https://twitter.com/ekh_sci/status/1147053552541536256
O/T: San Francisco “pods” solve half of society’s problems
Don’t let it be said that Lot never points to facts contrary to his proposals:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1026871
Massive Polish immigrant slave-labor/welfare fraud ring in the UK.
I still think we should “rebalance” by opening up the borders to mass East Euro migration.
Also, it is a man bites dog story, as every other modern slavery story involves MENA or South Asian perps. Would NBC even cover another “Arab migrant keeps Bangla/Flip as household slave” story if it were in the UK?
This shot makes it pretty clear she’s on some kind of roid cycle.
Just when I thought I was almost done with Serena, they roll Serena Jr. in the nick of time.
Get your t-shits, folks! These are apparently what the fans of Saini’s book, Superior wear. What complicated games these people play to become our new ruling class and eternal victim class at the same time:
Angela Saini Retweeted
It would be natural for seamstress ladies to keep their mouth shut and do as their betters instruct them. It's possible that the family legend about her suggesting a change from a 6 to a 5 pointed star is true but this is a pretty minor contribution and not worthy of elevating her to the ranks of the Founding Fathers. If the Federalist Papers are a 10 then designing the flag (Hopkinson) is a .1 and taking a point off a star (Ross) is a .0001.
“An order on William Webb to Elizabeth
Ross for fourteen pounds twelve shillings and two
pence for Making Ships Colours [etc.] put into William
Richards store……………………………………….£14.12.2”
That seems like a ton of money for a few flags if she were merely manufacturing them to a specific order. And the payment was directly to her, so she was the general contractor. 14 pounds was about a year’s wages for an unskilled laborer, maybe 6-9 months in the colonies and during wartime inflation.
Well played sir…..!
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From those hippy protest origins, the trend, like most things countercultural in America, became domesticated and went on to toys and beach towels and everything else -- even sneakers.
Communication professors have been known to say this is how our culture absorbs and neutralizes interior threats.
https://image.brazilianbikinishop.com/images/products/beachtowel-vagabondbeach-american-dreamer-2.jpg
What was the interior threat to be neutralized here?
The majority of People support "wokeness" and are committed to taking down white men
What’s Kamala going to do with her erection?
The majority of People support "wokeness" and are committed to taking down white men
She’s already done that.
It’s sad that the right wing is so utterly confident of the bankruptcy of their ideas that they can now ONLY address straw men. Nobody of any consequence is saying what you claim they’re saying, that “white is bad.” The excerpt you quoted in no way whatsoever supports your conclusion.
It’s not even that hard to understand; symbols that been coopted by violent fascists should be avoided. That’s it! If you want to use those symbols despite their current use by violent fascists, that’s fine, it’s a free country. But don’t be shocked when when people conclude you are sympathetic to violent fascists and decide to act accordingly.
Come on Beto, show us some evidence. And then show us how you verified the evidence.
I don’t think Beta knows what the f**k he’s talkin’ about .
BTW I’m just posting this because :
46k subscribers , 5million + views posted 9 years ago . Is it monetized ? Does he get a check ? well I’ll share it . Imagine making money like this .
It's the only way to explain why virtually every Democratic candidate is making statements that will prove suicidal in the general election. They must feel they have to say these things now if they're to have any hope of getting the nomination -- and then if they do get the nomination, they'll just have to disavow them as best they can.
This has happened before; albeit not to quite this degree of absurdity. The pattern is that the party nominates a centrist candidate in the wake of a Democratic presidency -- but the centrist loses. Then the militants seized control of the machinery and nominate one of their own. Consider Humphrey-McGovern, Carter-Mondale, and now Clinton-whoever we're going to get. The only exception I can think of was Gore-Kerry.
Interestingly, the Republicans did the same thing with Nixon (in 1960) and Goldwater.
At any rate, if this paradigm holds true in 2020, the Democrat will nominate some ghastly paragon of wokeness -- who will be crushed by Trump-Pence.
Due to demographic changes, in 30 years the Dirty Dems will control all three branches of government — forever!
Oh no, not embryonic recapitulation, often expressed using Ernst Haeckel's phrase "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny.” That theory, previously used in the mid-twentieth century as an argument for Darwinism, has been thoroughly discredited. According to Wikipedia, embryonic recapitulation has long been relegated to “biological mythology.” If Sagan used that, my respect for him has gone down.
I don’t know man, they sure looked like dinosaurs there for awhile.
My memory of the book is foggy, because I read it 39 years ago. I can't be sure if Sagan was using recapitulation theory as support for his ideas, or just describing it as one of the concepts that have been thought up over time.
However much or little one respects Sagan, at least he was better than Neil deGrasse Tyson.
The key statistic is the week your typical type II baby mama discovers she’s with fetus + 3 weeks leeway for when she gets her check each month. Any earlier than that and you’ll come up against some mysteriously powerful resistance.
You only ever heard about Betsy Ross in elementary school, where they made a big deal about her in US history class and exaggerated her importance. She's a token figure, like Harriet Tubman, and like Tubman nobody would remember her if they didn't force kids in school to spend an inordinate time learning about her.
Wow. Its the ONLY flag I own, and the ONLY flag I will fly. It represents an America (indeed, sadly with legalized slavery), where the government had little to no power, the citizens were in charge, there was no income taxation, there were no property taxes, there were no government monopoly day prisons masquerading as schools, there was no war on drugs, there was no war on prosperity, there was still respect for the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, and the nation was still a REPUBLIC. Today’s flag is the flag of the EMPIRE, and a nation of hollowed out values and respect for freedom and liberty.
OK one more : Juice Newton , I guess it’s her own channel . 39,963,696 views posted 10 years ago but still gets current views .
It's not even that hard to understand; symbols that been coopted by violent fascists should be avoided. That's it! If you want to use those symbols despite their current use by violent fascists, that's fine, it's a free country. But don't be shocked when when people conclude you are sympathetic to violent fascists and decide to act accordingly.
To which violent fascists are you referring, good sir?
Agree times 1000!
Priceless.
https://twitter.com/ekh_sci/status/1147053552541536256
Simpler explanation: they don’t know what words mean. See also the “Akademiks” clothing line.
A few prolifers actually do disagree which is why they blow up clinics and shoot doctors.
I was in Wichita when they went crazy that one summer.
None of them got especially upset that abortion was common and thoroughly accepted in Japan, though.
The counterculture.
In her case, it was a case of double fakery. In the early decades after the Revolution, nobody gave a damn about American history and many of the historic sites connected to the Revolution and the Founding Fathers were allowed to fall into ruin or be demolished - they were just old buildings and America had a country to build. Betsy Ross/Ashburne/Claypoole (she kept outliving her husbands) was just an old lady and there was some family lore that got passed down.
The first time she was dug up in the 1st wave of interest about Revolutionary history in the 1870's, in time for the Centennial. The first time her story appears in print, it's written by her grandson over a century after the events supposed occurred. You can imagine that even if there was some kernel of truth to the story, it was embellished after a century of oral repetition. Finally in the 1930s, her house (or actually the house next door to hers) is imaginatively reconstructed and turned into a museum/tourist attraction called the "Betsy Ross House".
Then in the 1970s you have the feminist wave and a distinct shortage of female historical figures who actually contributed anything to the Revolution. So Betsy gets another boost (and a major bridge over the Delaware named for her).
It's all going well for her until the Nazis adopt her flag as a symbol and now this person of pallor is another symbol of hate. How soon before the bridge is renamed? Harriet Tubman Bridge is available.
Thanks for the information
Only testosterone injections can produce those muscles on a girl.
https://www.270towin.com/historical_maps/1972_large.png
*the 1970's, however, was also (in my view) the start of the major societal decline in America. Drug addiction started becoming more mainstream (i.e. among "ordinary" people) as did other forms of licentiousness, spurred on by things like contraception and Roe v. Wade. The 1960's was when the meteor hit. The 1970's was when the ash started falling. IMO, most of the negative impact was reversible, but most conservative or ordinary people were under the impression that America had survived the 1960's, so they paid little attention to what was going on in the '70's.
You’re so right about contraception. Contraception did not exist until the pill cane along in 1960. Adultery and premarital sex were invented in 1965.
Sometimes the comments are satires of satires
Oh I get it--all of America is a white nationalist group.
Hardly.
Anti-white Whites outnumber pro-White Whites by a bunch.
When the same percentage of the American white population thinks William Pierce and Harold Covington were cool as Israelis who admire and approve of Baruch Goldstein, let me know.
What does it even mean to “respect” a corporate money making decision? Is he a shareholder? Does he respect the IPhone 6?
It would be natural for seamstress ladies to keep their mouth shut and do as their betters instruct them. It's possible that the family legend about her suggesting a change from a 6 to a 5 pointed star is true but this is a pretty minor contribution and not worthy of elevating her to the ranks of the Founding Fathers. If the Federalist Papers are a 10 then designing the flag (Hopkinson) is a .1 and taking a point off a star (Ross) is a .0001.
Even if that’s all she did, it’s a major contribution, both aesthetically and (ahem) for other reasons. Hail Betsy! ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
Ha! Then explain her face, monsieur Poirot!
https://www.270towin.com/historical_maps/1972_large.png
*the 1970's, however, was also (in my view) the start of the major societal decline in America. Drug addiction started becoming more mainstream (i.e. among "ordinary" people) as did other forms of licentiousness, spurred on by things like contraception and Roe v. Wade. The 1960's was when the meteor hit. The 1970's was when the ash started falling. IMO, most of the negative impact was reversible, but most conservative or ordinary people were under the impression that America had survived the 1960's, so they paid little attention to what was going on in the '70's.
The Seventies were the Sixties for Core America, middle class, far from salt water, people raised with some sort of nominally Christian background, not terribly wealthy nor never terribly poor for long. Saul Alinsky called them “have-a-little, want mores”.
For those who’ve read her autobiography Chrissie Hynde is a reasonable example of a kid raised by very conventional parents who got swept up in the riptide. (How her English and Welsh immigrant parents wound up Lutheran rather than Episcopal or Pres is an interesting story on its own, I’ll bet.)
The Sixties (and I define “the Sixties” as a period from 8/8/1962 to 8/8/1974, but really getting started in earnest in early ’64) directly impacted Fringe Americans much more than Core Americans. The very wealthy, the very poor, people heavily steeped in Eastern or Middle Eastern (not Western Christianity) religions or mysticism, residents of places like San Francisco, and people clearly identifying as nonwhite, were most swept up in it.
It wasn’t until the seventies that Middle America “got with it”. The wheels started coming off the wagon shortly thereafter. The reaction was swift-Jerry Falwell’s Moral Majority and the election of Ronald Reagan-but it was not very thorough. middle clss mres were permanently impcted, nd the will to fight leftism had largely been eviscerated.
The Dutch use six-pointed stars in their rank insignia (a field awash in five pointed stars) and I don’t think that has anything to do with Judaism.
Is the theory then that the dominant culture neutralized the counterculture by adorning it with American flags?
Not just flags, but music, hair, clothing, etc.
Anti-white Whites outnumber pro-White Whites by a bunch.
When the same percentage of the American white population thinks William Pierce and Harold Covington were cool as Israelis who admire and approve of Baruch Goldstein, let me know.
Did William Pierce massacre dozens of non-Whites? Seems like a bad analogy.
Sometimes the comments are satires of satires
You can say that again. Now, if you could also understand it. (Rereading your own comment might help.)
“You’re so right about contraception. Contraception did not exist until the pill cane along in 1960. Adultery and premarital sex were invented in 1965. ”
40% of children in the US are born outside of marriage. Kind of a problem, I’d say.
Our problem is entirely "at our border". That is the part that Americans both have the right and can easily control.
American policy on foreign aid is largerly irrelevant--tweaking at the margins. The fertility of other nations is certainly worthy of note, but utlimately not in our power to control without very abusive colonization.
But our survival, can not and need not depend on altering the fertilty of other nations, peoples, races. It depends only on absolute control of our border--which is ridiculously straigthforward.
We no longer live in 1890. Sticking your head in the sand is not an option, particularly now that the Trump Administration’s failure to make any progress on a wall has made it plain that there is no chance America will maintain absolute control of its border.
;imany people, including taxpayers, regard abortion as immoral, and therefore do not want to be forced to subsidize it, anywhere in the world, via the coercive tax system.
That’s a general argument against government and taxes in general. In this instance it is pure hypocrisy. Bombing children in Yemen would seem to be just as immoral yet many Republicans are happy to support that for reasons of State. The drastic increase in the black African population impacts the US economy and national security directly. Americans like their coffee, chocolate and rare minerals. We already have US Troops mucking about in places like Congo. We are already in a proxy struggle with China for access to, and control over, African resources. You can call for abandoning the US overseas Empire but not one politician or business leader will support you. Better to have sensible colonial policies than to worry about the sensitivities of low IQ women voters.
You can call for abandoning the US overseas Empire but not one politician or business leader will support you
Actually, I just called for the government to stop funding abortion, regardless of location, since many taxpayers find it immoral.
The drastic increase in the black African population impacts the US economy and national security directly.
No it doesn't -- nor does the Iranian nuclear program; same for NK's missiles -- which is not to say the US should remain uninterested -- only that neither is a direct threat to the "US economy and national security".
Fear-mongering, neocon-ish views like yours have led directly to the massive growth in power of the national security state, which is of no benefit whatsoever to the average working American taxpayer -- but they are enslaved via the coercive tax and inter-generational debt system to pay for it and all the useless parasites who oversee it.
The one essential thing is that we keep the Blacks out of our (white majority) countries.
Pleases stop countenancing and/or promoting the idea that American taxpayers should subsidize the mass killing of the unborn -- this is simply wrong, and you know it.
Like I said: contact the Gates Foundation.
True dat.
Sad — almost your entire response is a red herring, an emotion-driven non-sequitur; the weird thing is, you appear to be either too dumb or dishonest (maybe both) to see that — albeit you do seem to concede my point about government funding of abortion.
You can call for abandoning the US overseas Empire but not one politician or business leader will support you
Actually, I just called for the government to stop funding abortion, regardless of location, since many taxpayers find it immoral.
The drastic increase in the black African population impacts the US economy and national security directly.
No it doesn’t — nor does the Iranian nuclear program; same for NK’s missiles — which is not to say the US should remain uninterested — only that neither is a direct threat to the “US economy and national security”.
Fear-mongering, neocon-ish views like yours have led directly to the massive growth in power of the national security state, which is of no benefit whatsoever to the average working American taxpayer — but they are enslaved via the coercive tax and inter-generational debt system to pay for it and all the useless parasites who oversee it.
The one essential thing is that we keep the Blacks out of our (white majority) countries.
Pleases stop countenancing and/or promoting the idea that American taxpayers should subsidize the mass killing of the unborn — this is simply wrong, and you know it.
Like I said: contact the Gates Foundation.
For those who've read her autobiography Chrissie Hynde is a reasonable example of a kid raised by very conventional parents who got swept up in the riptide. (How her English and Welsh immigrant parents wound up Lutheran rather than Episcopal or Pres is an interesting story on its own, I'll bet.)
The Sixties (and I define "the Sixties" as a period from 8/8/1962 to 8/8/1974, but really getting started in earnest in early '64) directly impacted Fringe Americans much more than Core Americans. The very wealthy, the very poor, people heavily steeped in Eastern or Middle Eastern (not Western Christianity) religions or mysticism, residents of places like San Francisco, and people clearly identifying as nonwhite, were most swept up in it.
It wasn't until the seventies that Middle America "got with it". The wheels started coming off the wagon shortly thereafter. The reaction was swift-Jerry Falwell's Moral Majority and the election of Ronald Reagan-but it was not very thorough. middle clss mres were permanently impcted, nd the will to fight leftism had largely been eviscerated.
My best guess is that the Sixties arrived in Core America on 1/22/1973 with the Roe v. Wade decision: the Supreme Court wants you to party down.
Probably if it hadn't been for Roe v. Wade we'd have abortion laws that were functionally similar to what we have now, except for late term abortions without substantial medical onus (which are not common) but no substantial "pro-life" movement. It was an egregious example of absolutely arbitrary judge-made law-but so was Loving vs. Virginia, and how many conservatives will publicly oppose that?
That is literally the dumbest thing anybody’s ever said.
For one thing, yes, it is exactly the same. For another thing, human beings are not oak trees.
If you think pulling up a five-inch oak sampling is the same as cutting down a mature oak or even a five-foot sampling, you should tell that to the city or county officials where I live. I'm sure they'd love to be issuing permits to all those people who routinely pull up (or mow over) five-inch oak saplings, just as they do, albeit with a lot of foot-dragging and at a high price, to those who want to take down a mature oak that's diseased or that is impacting the foundation of the homeowner's house.
Marshalltown is where the 12-year-old Merle Miller propositioned, successfully, a black man on a train platform. I’m surprised that O’Rourke beat Pete Buttigieg to such a historic location.
Then again, maybe I shouldn’t be.
"The Marshalltown Company, based in Marshalltown, Iowa, is a privately held American manufacturer of construction tools and equipment used for masonry, concrete, drywall, painting, plastering, stucco, tile, and wallpaper. Marshalltown, founded in 1890, is one of the top producers of construction tools and equipment in the world, including the Marshalltown pointed trowel, a favored tool among American archaeologists." [Wiki]
Archaeologists, bullshit!!
No, as a 12 year old I knew that the Marshalltown pointed trowel, forged from a single piece of high grade steel and tempered, ground, and polished "heel to toe" was a favored tool among skilled bricklayers and masons!! My father had at least one of each size Marshalltown brick trowel, tuck pointing trowel, joiner and joint striker, plastering trowel, concrete grover and edger, rectangular finishing trowel, margin trowel, notched trowel, gauging trowel, darby trowel, and a few others and I still have most of them 20 years after his passing.
A Marshalltown pointed brick trowel:
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/162038595889-0-1/s-l1000.jpg
I don’t think too many people exactly partied at the prospect of being able to get legal abortions. I think that at best (or worst) some people felt a kind of relief, but not happiness.
Probably if it hadn’t been for Roe v. Wade we’d have abortion laws that were functionally similar to what we have now, except for late term abortions without substantial medical onus (which are not common) but no substantial “pro-life” movement. It was an egregious example of absolutely arbitrary judge-made law-but so was Loving vs. Virginia, and how many conservatives will publicly oppose that?
For one thing, yes, it is exactly the same. For another thing, human beings are not oak trees.
You’ve never seen what a Gravely mower will do to a surprisingly thick sapling. Or to the aluminum siding of the neighbor’s house when it slings a solid wood divot from an oak tree root out the side of it.
He never killed anyone, though he did probably take a quarter million or so of stolen Brinks truck loot from Robert Mathews’ Order. But that make my point even better. Goldstein killed a bunch of people in cold blood, while they were worshipping. Pierce wrote some books and radio talk programs where he advocated some un-nice behavior. Probably not .001% of America’s population admires Pierce. I don’t have how many in Israel regard Goldstein a hero but it has to be in the high single or low double digits at minimum.
Hate to state the obvious, but flags are all about optics; ambiguous or unintended symbolism is a design flaw. I categorize Ross’s stars as a happy accident: There are practical reasons why she allegedly chose the design—visibility from a distance and ease of manufacture are usually cited.
The Dutch, eh? Tangentially, I’m reminded of the lore of AFC Ajax:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFC_Ajax#Jewish_connection
Six-pointed ‘sheriff’s badges’ briefly became a subject of amusement during the 2016 election:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/in-this-time-of-crisis-americans-must-come-together-and-talk-about-the-real-issue/
https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/04/politics/donald-trump-star-of-david-tweet-explained/index.html
Then again, maybe I shouldn't be.
https://pics.cdn.librarything.com/picsizes/b5/8c/b58c876502eecf459774b625a67444341514141.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/18633178643
Shows one how times have changed and how far the country has fallen when one associates Marshalltown with Merle Miller or reads the Wikipedia article about Marshalltown.
“The Marshalltown Company, based in Marshalltown, Iowa, is a privately held American manufacturer of construction tools and equipment used for masonry, concrete, drywall, painting, plastering, stucco, tile, and wallpaper. Marshalltown, founded in 1890, is one of the top producers of construction tools and equipment in the world, including the Marshalltown pointed trowel, a favored tool among American archaeologists.” [Wiki]
Archaeologists, bullshit!!
No, as a 12 year old I knew that the Marshalltown pointed trowel, forged from a single piece of high grade steel and tempered, ground, and polished “heel to toe” was a favored tool among skilled bricklayers and masons!! My father had at least one of each size Marshalltown brick trowel, tuck pointing trowel, joiner and joint striker, plastering trowel, concrete grover and edger, rectangular finishing trowel, margin trowel, notched trowel, gauging trowel, darby trowel, and a few others and I still have most of them 20 years after his passing.
A Marshalltown pointed brick trowel:
Sometimes the comments are satires of satires
No. Sexual intercourse began in nineteen sixty-three.
As Philip Larkin famously observed. https://www.wussu.com/poems/plam.htm
The great French photographer, Henri Cartier Bresson, took that picture in Cape Cod in 1947 on the Fourth of July and observed later
"This woman explained to me that the flagpole over her door was broken but on a day like this one keeps one's flag over one's heart. In her I felt a touch of the strength of American pioneers."As recently as two decades ago, the photograph, the photographer and the sentiment would have been understood to be representative of a certain liberal, sympathetic sensibility.I cannot image this picture or that comment being held up as an example of benevolent, liberal, humanism by today's cultural arbiters.They would likely label the image as embodying a narcissistic white gaze upon white privilege, and say that the image is from a time of oppression of the black body and its erasure from representation. Or some such.Including the picture in an exhibition on America today, except to denigrate the woman as an example from a racist America, would likely be problematic.
But what if I told you that old lady was one- eighth black …..problematic solved!…
I think quite a few people disagree with me. Many people truly believe that aborting a newly-fertilized egg is the same as aborting a fetus at four months. They believe that the newly-fertilized egg was chosen by God to be another human being walking the planet.
For one thing, yes, it is exactly the same. For another thing, human beings are not oak trees.
Genuinely intelligent people don’t usually trumpet the fact that they are intelligent, and unless they aren’t fluent in English, they also know the definitions of the words “dumb” and “literally” (they literally would not use “dumbest” the way you have).
If you think pulling up a five-inch oak sampling is the same as cutting down a mature oak or even a five-foot sampling, you should tell that to the city or county officials where I live. I’m sure they’d love to be issuing permits to all those people who routinely pull up (or mow over) five-inch oak saplings, just as they do, albeit with a lot of foot-dragging and at a high price, to those who want to take down a mature oak that’s diseased or that is impacting the foundation of the homeowner’s house.
No. Typically, something a counterculture does that is offensive, like wearing American flags, becomes absorbed into the main culture and thus is no longer shocking. It therefore loses its power to disrupt.
Not just flags, but music, hair, clothing, etc.
Our problem is entirely "at our border". That is the part that Americans both have the right and can easily control.
American policy on foreign aid is largerly irrelevant--tweaking at the margins. The fertility of other nations is certainly worthy of note, but utlimately not in our power to control without very abusive colonization.
But our survival, can not and need not depend on altering the fertilty of other nations, peoples, races. It depends only on absolute control of our border--which is ridiculously straigthforward.
If by “control of the border,” you mean also the willingness to round up and deport people who have managed to gain illegal entry, or have overstayed a visa, than I agree with you.
Betsy Ross got it all sewed up.
And then there’s Maude!
“And then there’s Maude!”
Maude. The release and success of which marked the moment that the Jewish takeover of American popular culture was complete.
You only ever heard about Betsy Ross in elementary school, where they made a big deal about her in US history class and exaggerated her importance. She's a token figure, like Harriet Tubman, and like Tubman nobody would remember her if they didn't force kids in school to spend an inordinate time learning about her.
If we abolished compulsory attendance (i.e. the draft), immediately HALF the kids wouldn’t bother to show up; half of the remainder would only show up for the daycare.
Dis country be raciss an’ rotten
‘Cause de flag it be sewn from de cotton.
Red stripes is fo’ lashes
Lef’ permanit gashes
On de psyche: dat’s Nike fo’gotten.
The media controlling our national dialogue (mostly a Jewish media) are destroying our democracy. The American rich who are sponsoring this have become complete traitors to their country.
A civil war seems to be the only thing that will stop these people.
in a sense, they have put GOP/cuckservatives in a binary choice- join the rainbow nation and reject the founding fathers or you’re a ‘nazi’ – now ‘nazi’ means american patriot, any white american born before BMLK, AMLK will be new ‘BC/AD”
My experience was that Swoosh was always way more expensive than its competitors. I always assumed it achieved high profit margins due to marketing, i.e. endorsements by superstar athletes.
Kap is not a star QB, but he must be a pretty strong influencer.
For those who've read her autobiography Chrissie Hynde is a reasonable example of a kid raised by very conventional parents who got swept up in the riptide. (How her English and Welsh immigrant parents wound up Lutheran rather than Episcopal or Pres is an interesting story on its own, I'll bet.)
The Sixties (and I define "the Sixties" as a period from 8/8/1962 to 8/8/1974, but really getting started in earnest in early '64) directly impacted Fringe Americans much more than Core Americans. The very wealthy, the very poor, people heavily steeped in Eastern or Middle Eastern (not Western Christianity) religions or mysticism, residents of places like San Francisco, and people clearly identifying as nonwhite, were most swept up in it.
It wasn't until the seventies that Middle America "got with it". The wheels started coming off the wagon shortly thereafter. The reaction was swift-Jerry Falwell's Moral Majority and the election of Ronald Reagan-but it was not very thorough. middle clss mres were permanently impcted, nd the will to fight leftism had largely been eviscerated.
Evidence please?
Evidence, please?
Weren’t there a lot of Jews in the Netherlands during its heyday?
Not just flags, but music, hair, clothing, etc.
If a counterculture meme or practice enters the main culture, doesn’t that mean it has succeeded in disrupting?
Why are you referring to school attendance as “the draft”?
For those who've read her autobiography Chrissie Hynde is a reasonable example of a kid raised by very conventional parents who got swept up in the riptide. (How her English and Welsh immigrant parents wound up Lutheran rather than Episcopal or Pres is an interesting story on its own, I'll bet.)
The Sixties (and I define "the Sixties" as a period from 8/8/1962 to 8/8/1974, but really getting started in earnest in early '64) directly impacted Fringe Americans much more than Core Americans. The very wealthy, the very poor, people heavily steeped in Eastern or Middle Eastern (not Western Christianity) religions or mysticism, residents of places like San Francisco, and people clearly identifying as nonwhite, were most swept up in it.
It wasn't until the seventies that Middle America "got with it". The wheels started coming off the wagon shortly thereafter. The reaction was swift-Jerry Falwell's Moral Majority and the election of Ronald Reagan-but it was not very thorough. middle clss mres were permanently impcted, nd the will to fight leftism had largely been eviscerated.
Bracketed by “Breaking up is Hard to Do” and Nixon’s resignation announcement. Why 12 years instead of 10? I’d choose 11/22/63 to 4/30/75.
Good point. What happens is, the practice or meme becomes domesticated, defanged. It is copied in a safe form. Then, it is no longer “cool,” edgy or “extreme.” Instead, it is common and passé. This forces anti-culture forces to find new symbols and ways to agitate.
This is not my theory, and I see your argument. Even though such things are made less impactful and less meaningful, they still succeed in changing the culture. Damage is done, but perhaps less than if they were not so absorbed.
Maybe infections of the body are a good analogy: They make us sick, so they do have an effect. Some even leave lasting scars or damage, but we produce antibodies and turn the invasive code against itself, in a way. It lives on in us, but without being able to cause more damage. Most important, it can’t kill us.
Make no mistake, the creators and pushers of the initial countercultural memes are often people who are motivated to destroy what is ours. With regard to the case at hand, they are literally anti-American. They were in the 1960s, and they are now.
The statements “It was part of a Jewish conspiracy” and “It had something to do with Judaism” are not equivalent. How could a 6 pointed star not have anything to do with Judaism? I think one major airport, maybe Heathrow, has runways in a Star of David pattern to efficiently and safely handle a lot of traffic and have cross wind runways with good angles. (60 deg) So I’ll grant there can be a non Jewish related basis for a 6 pointed star. Just not very likely.
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The Pope is Catholic.
Evidence, please?
Oh come on.
For those who've read her autobiography Chrissie Hynde is a reasonable example of a kid raised by very conventional parents who got swept up in the riptide. (How her English and Welsh immigrant parents wound up Lutheran rather than Episcopal or Pres is an interesting story on its own, I'll bet.)
The Sixties (and I define "the Sixties" as a period from 8/8/1962 to 8/8/1974, but really getting started in earnest in early '64) directly impacted Fringe Americans much more than Core Americans. The very wealthy, the very poor, people heavily steeped in Eastern or Middle Eastern (not Western Christianity) religions or mysticism, residents of places like San Francisco, and people clearly identifying as nonwhite, were most swept up in it.
It wasn't until the seventies that Middle America "got with it". The wheels started coming off the wagon shortly thereafter. The reaction was swift-Jerry Falwell's Moral Majority and the election of Ronald Reagan-but it was not very thorough. middle clss mres were permanently impcted, nd the will to fight leftism had largely been eviscerated.
In that same way, growing up in the 1960’s in flyover country was something like growing up in the 1950’s for the rest of the US. I remember folksinger Dave Mallet saying that’s the way it was in Maine when he was a teenager, and it was true where I grew up (fashion and pop music aside.)
I’m curious as to why you chose such a specific start date. I’ve always kind of thought of the 1960’s beginning – at least in ominous terms that conservatives can relate to – with the assassination of JFK. Others might point to JFK taking office in 1960.
I understand the Nixon resignation date in 74.
8/8/74 was the resignation speech of Richard Milhaus Nixon, who had been run out of office by a concerted, engineered media event. I remember exactly where I was watching it on TV, just like Apollo11, Challenger, 9/11.
Those between the ages of around seven to sixteen are forced into (generally public) skool.
Those who refuse to go will be sent to juvenile hall, or their parents prosecuted, etc.
Young people used to burn their “draft” cards. Conscription cards doesn’t have the same ring to it.
Richard Dawkins the famous atheist sort of agreed with you:
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/83303-we-are-going-to-die-and-that-makes-us-the
I mentioned the field being awash in fivers. Generally everybody (especially in Europe) uses five pointed stars and/or bars or braided stripes, even sometimes for enlisted ranks (Polish and Czech rank insignia appear to have either been designed by the manufacturer or intended to baffle the enemy). So at a NATO conference a Dutch shoulder strap will really stand out because of the different stars.
I don’t know why the Dutch chose their particular stars, but your 'nothing to see here' example of the Dutch insignia exception (that proves the rule) is ironic given Holland's historic reputation for being a relative safe harbor for Jews in Europe.
In short, I dismiss your muddy hokum. Now read up on Mokum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokum
I wondered the same.
I think he just back-dated it from the Nixon resignation.
But, if so, why twelve years and not a clean ten? Was August 1964 already “too late,” with the early wheels well in motion? Why not eleven years, to August 8, 1963?
Note on the origins (date) of one bill that did quite a lot of damage, in its time:
Introduced by that same Celler character again, of Hart-Celler fame. (Is “Celler” is Yiddish for ‘nation-wrecker’?) in June 1963. FWIW.
8/8 has always had a contentious history, but 8/8/1962 was the day they buried Marilyn Monroe. There was a disturbance, minor by standards of post-1965, at the cemetery, but mainly it was the passing of an icon whose magnitude isn’t well understood today: she was a huge celebrity in an age when celebrities weren’t that big a deal.
8/8/74 was the resignation speech of Richard Milhaus Nixon, who had been run out of office by a concerted, engineered media event. I remember exactly where I was watching it on TV, just like Apollo11, Challenger, 9/11.
- The 1930s....: 2.1 (Depression-era average)
- 1940 to 1961: 3.2 (TFR-recovery-era's long-running average)
- 1953 to 1961: 3.65 (Eisenhower-era average)
- 1961: 3.63
- 1962: 3.47
- 1963: 3.33
- 1964: 3.21
- 1965: 2.93
- 1966: 2.74
- 1967: 2.58
- 1968: 2.48
- 1969: 2.47
- 1970: 2.48
- 1971: 2.23
- 1972: 2.01
- 1973: 1.88
- 1974: 1.84
- 1975: 1.77
- 1976: 1.74 [Low point (all races) of the 20th century in the USA] (note: White-White TFR [i.e., both parents White] fell to as low as 1.55 in the 1980s; eventually nestled slightly back up and into a 1.60-to-1.75 equilibrium [1990s, 2000s, 2010s], but in the late 2010s looks to have again fallen, to a lowest-ever of around 1.50).____________Possibly relevant/useful towards dating the true 'beginning' of The Sixties:- 1962: The year 1962 did begin the TFR down-trend (lining up with Anon-427's proposed 1962 start for The Sixties), but it should be remembered that 1962's slight dip in TFR was just coming off the high-fertility mid-1950s-to-1961 period. I'd comment here that no way was the US, an advanced industrial economy, going to hold Eisenhower-era fertility forever. Still notable that 1962 is the statistical start, but it also implies fewer conceptions or bringings-to-term of conceptions occurring in April 1961 to March 1962, so if one wishes to use this datapoint, the precise 'turn' would predate even the proposed August 1962 date).- 1964:The slide that began slowly in 1962 continued, with the long-running-average (i.e., for 1940-1961) (b)reached again in 1964 with more downward movement to come. As such, 1964 seems a reasonable start point for 'The Sixties,' as it equals the then-recent-era's long-term TFR average. If a ten-year period must be had: 9pm EDT Aug. 8, 1964, to 9pm EDT Aug. 8, 1974 (Nixon resignation speech, a plausible final act of The Sixties; Hibernian's proposed April 30, 1975 [helicopter evacuation of Saigon] fits nicely as an epilogue to a closed story). The USA of Aug. 8, 1964 was still classic America (or, as Lawrence Auster put it in a notable essay really worth reading again on this very topic, was "still definitely a country symbolized by George Washington"), and was also in TFR terms: A self-confident country with the average White woman giving birth to three White children. Flash forward ten years: In TFR terms, Aug. 1974 was a different world, with White births suppressed and the very beginning of the Third World immigration nightmare; by the 1980s, almost 4 in 10 US births for the decade were Nonwhite. Anyway, symbolically, as colonial-stock-American Richard Nixon went down with the ship in summer 1974, sunk by a political conspiracy, the entire country had gone down with him. (The entire Nixon and Wallace phenomena were surely reactions against The Sixties, but that's tangential, and this is already a late-thread, long post.)- 1965: The single-largest TFR fall in US history that I know of, is the year 1965. A year-on-year loss of -0.28 points. Though, again, births are a slightly lagging indicator of possible social change, as the data reflects conceptions or non-conceptions/abortions for the period April 1964 to March 1965, which the above-proposed August 1964 a point more-or-less in the middle of that. I am feeling better about proposing Aug. '64 to Aug. '74, if a tight ten-year-period is called for.- The year 1972 follows closely behind 1965's dubious distinction of the highest-ever year-on-year US fertility 'hit.' 1972's year-on-year TFR loss was -0.26. The third-highest was 1971, clocking-in at -0.21. 1973 was also a year of TFR decline (-0.13), and babies born in 1973 were into the now-familiar US fertility territory of the 1.6 to 2.0 range (meaning that we US Whites have had negative fertility for almost fifty years running, with perhaps a non-negligible qualitative hit, as well, hidden in the numbers). 1971 to 1973, thus, is a three-year span that gave us a 0.6-point fertility loss, comparable to wartime demographic shocks. Except in the early-'70s case, there was no postwar-recovery, at least (certainly) not back to replacement, and at least not through the 2010s.
Okay, but you originally wrote:
It may not, but it’s irrelevant to my overall observation about Ross’s fortuitous choice of five-pointed stars.
I don’t know why the Dutch chose their particular stars, but your ‘nothing to see here’ example of the Dutch insignia exception (that proves the rule) is ironic given Holland’s historic reputation for being a relative safe harbor for Jews in Europe.
In short, I dismiss your muddy hokum. Now read up on Mokum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokum
Interesting response. Thank you.
Goldstein’s attack wasn’t a random act of madness. It was an attempt to derail the Oslo Accords, which would have required Israel to give up the West Bank. There’s no American parallel to this. The closest thing to it would probably be if the U.S. government entered into an agreement to hand over to Mexico all the states west of the Rockies. But even that wouldn’t be the same, as Americans have no ancient religious attachment to Los Angeles and San Francisco.
No, the closest thing would be if the U.S. government entered into an agreement to withdraw from Iraq or Afghanistan.
8/8/74 was the resignation speech of Richard Milhaus Nixon, who had been run out of office by a concerted, engineered media event. I remember exactly where I was watching it on TV, just like Apollo11, Challenger, 9/11.
Anon-427, thanks for your thought-provoking comments in this thread.
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On fertility (TFR) and the assignment of a start-date to ‘The Sixties’:
The 1930s were a then-historical-low-point for US fertility. The first upswing was in 1940 when TFR recovered to 2.3, then rose to 3.3 by 1947 (mirroring large-advanced-economy Germany’s earlier 1.6 to 2.6 TFR turnaround, 1933 to 1940; both were 1.0-point rises achieved in seven years, but that is a tangent).
The US average for the period 1940 to 1961 was 3.2 TFR (peak years: 1954 to 1961, at 3.65 average).
Total Fertility Rate by period/year, 1930s to 1976
– The 1930s….: 2.1 (Depression-era average)
– 1940 to 1961: 3.2 (TFR-recovery-era’s long-running average)
– 1953 to 1961: 3.65 (Eisenhower-era average)
– 1961: 3.63
– 1962: 3.47
– 1963: 3.33
– 1964: 3.21
– 1965: 2.93
– 1966: 2.74
– 1967: 2.58
– 1968: 2.48
– 1969: 2.47
– 1970: 2.48
– 1971: 2.23
– 1972: 2.01
– 1973: 1.88
– 1974: 1.84
– 1975: 1.77
– 1976: 1.74 [Low point (all races) of the 20th century in the USA]
(note: White-White TFR [i.e., both parents White] fell to as low as 1.55 in the 1980s; eventually nestled slightly back up and into a 1.60-to-1.75 equilibrium [1990s, 2000s, 2010s], but in the late 2010s looks to have again fallen, to a lowest-ever of around 1.50).
____________
Possibly relevant/useful towards dating the true ‘beginning’ of The Sixties:
– 1962: The year 1962 did begin the TFR down-trend (lining up with Anon-427’s proposed 1962 start for The Sixties), but it should be remembered that 1962’s slight dip in TFR was just coming off the high-fertility mid-1950s-to-1961 period. I’d comment here that no way was the US, an advanced industrial economy, going to hold Eisenhower-era fertility forever. Still notable that 1962 is the statistical start, but it also implies fewer conceptions or bringings-to-term of conceptions occurring in April 1961 to March 1962, so if one wishes to use this datapoint, the precise ‘turn’ would predate even the proposed August 1962 date).
– 1964:The slide that began slowly in 1962 continued, with the long-running-average (i.e., for 1940-1961) (b)reached again in 1964 with more downward movement to come. As such, 1964 seems a reasonable start point for ‘The Sixties,’ as it equals the then-recent-era’s long-term TFR average. If a ten-year period must be had: 9pm EDT Aug. 8, 1964, to 9pm EDT Aug. 8, 1974 (Nixon resignation speech, a plausible final act of The Sixties; Hibernian’s proposed April 30, 1975 [helicopter evacuation of Saigon] fits nicely as an epilogue to a closed story).
The USA of Aug. 8, 1964 was still classic America (or, as Lawrence Auster put it in a notable essay really worth reading again on this very topic, was “still definitely a country symbolized by George Washington”), and was also in TFR terms: A self-confident country with the average White woman giving birth to three White children. Flash forward ten years: In TFR terms, Aug. 1974 was a different world, with White births suppressed and the very beginning of the Third World immigration nightmare; by the 1980s, almost 4 in 10 US births for the decade were Nonwhite. Anyway, symbolically, as colonial-stock-American Richard Nixon went down with the ship in summer 1974, sunk by a political conspiracy, the entire country had gone down with him. (The entire Nixon and Wallace phenomena were surely reactions against The Sixties, but that’s tangential, and this is already a late-thread, long post.)
– 1965: The single-largest TFR fall in US history that I know of, is the year 1965. A year-on-year loss of -0.28 points. Though, again, births are a slightly lagging indicator of possible social change, as the data reflects conceptions or non-conceptions/abortions for the period April 1964 to March 1965, which the above-proposed August 1964 a point more-or-less in the middle of that. I am feeling better about proposing Aug. ’64 to Aug. ’74, if a tight ten-year-period is called for.
– The year 1972 follows closely behind 1965’s dubious distinction of the highest-ever year-on-year US fertility ‘hit.’ 1972’s year-on-year TFR loss was -0.26. The third-highest was 1971, clocking-in at -0.21. 1973 was also a year of TFR decline (-0.13), and babies born in 1973 were into the now-familiar US fertility territory of the 1.6 to 2.0 range (meaning that we US Whites have had negative fertility for almost fifty years running, with perhaps a non-negligible qualitative hit, as well, hidden in the numbers).
1971 to 1973, thus, is a three-year span that gave us a 0.6-point fertility loss, comparable to wartime demographic shocks. Except in the early-’70s case, there was no postwar-recovery, at least (certainly) not back to replacement, and at least not through the 2010s.
They are fanatics, but they will think nothing of consuming veal and lamb, and devote scarcely a passing thought for the ritualized, daily animal tortures in our so-called factory farms.
If you think pulling up a five-inch oak sampling is the same as cutting down a mature oak or even a five-foot sampling, you should tell that to the city or county officials where I live. I'm sure they'd love to be issuing permits to all those people who routinely pull up (or mow over) five-inch oak saplings, just as they do, albeit with a lot of foot-dragging and at a high price, to those who want to take down a mature oak that's diseased or that is impacting the foundation of the homeowner's house.
I.D. is forever hurling puerile insults and bragging about his supposed smarts. He’s been shown up more times than we can count but still he lumbers onward, oblivious to the implications. Best ignored, along with a couple others.
If "they" (however many there might actually be) are bothered by our first flag because they associate it with Whiteness, then they are admitting that the United States has always been a White nation with minority appendages.
They are uncomfortable with what this nation is, because it was created by White people.
By admitting this is a White nation, they concede our point to us. This is not a proposition nation, but a nation of American White people.
The debate is over, and we declare victory.
Alas, it’s not a debate we’re having. It’s a war.