Ben Dreyfuss: "People Hate the Mouthy Bro Who Forces You to Listen About How Great They Were at Sports at Their Sad Little Lily White Prep School."
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Ben Dreyfuss, editorial director of Mother Jones, tweets:
https://twitter.com/bendreyfuss/status/1045411894876680192
Ben, of course, is Latinx and comes from a long line of non-mouthy Dreyfusses, as we can see from his dad’s role in The Graduate in 1967:
And here’s Ben explaining the kind of diverse high school he went to:
I don’t know which son of the Goldman Sach’s CEO went to school with Ben Dreyfuss, but you can read about both sons here and here.
Ben Dreyfuss attended The Community School, a private school currently charging $30,250 per year tuition, in … Sun Valley, Idaho. The Community School is so diverse, urban, and not lily white that it has its own live-in Ski Academy.
People who actually brag tend to be very different from the MSM versions of people who brag.
(((People))) often do hate that, Ben.
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Gaslighting. The Dem Senators were trying high school-aged Kavanaugh, and Kavanaugh was defending his high school self. Basically, he was the opposite of Ben Dreyfus: a middle class kid with no famous connections who busted his ass as a scholar-athlete and rose to be a SCOTUS nominee.
Obviously, the reason Kavanaugh mentioned his athletic, academic, and extracurricular achievements was to pour cold water on the b.s. alcoholism charge: no way a teenage boozer could have done all of that.
The left has really not been shy about how much they hate Kavanaugh and think he’s guilty because he’s a “privileged, white cisgender male” (in exactly those words). I’ve heard at least a half-dozen remarks that “this is how privileged, white cisgender male acts when their sense of entitlement is threatened” today. Poor strategy for convincing anyone that isn’t already an SJW, but I assume it’s just trying to rally the troops.
As opposed to:
The difference is that the nominally Protestant prep schools are no longer religious or cater to WASPs, so they and secular private schools tend to have Jewish students. Whereas Jesuit and other Catholic prep schools like Georgetown Prep are religious and run by the Church, so basically tend not to have Jewish students. You can’t just go to the school and skip the religious classes and Masses and stuff just because you’re not Catholic. Catholic prep schools also tend to be sports obsessed and athletically competitive and recruit athletes. Roy Hibbert, the 7’2″ NBA center, went to Georgetown Prep.
If you want a real Catholic education - where "the dogma lives within" - for your son, the place for him in the metro-DC area is The Heights: https://heights.edu/
For girls, it would Oakcrest: http://www.oakcrest.org/
Enrollment: 491
Students come from 14 states and 19 countries, including Spain, Nigeria, Korea, and Venezuela
Demographics: 63% Caucasian, 11% African American, 16% Asian, 6% Latino
Financial Aid: 26% of families receive financial aid; average grant is $19,000
100% enrollment in 4-year college
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Forgive me if I am missing the joke, but what evidence is there that Ben is Latino?
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/09/christine-blasey-ford-is-a-class-traitor.html
Rod Dreher has been doing pretty good with this issue, and in one of his recent posts he noted that Kavanaugh seemed the sort of guy he would have hated back then, but that he absolutely must be confirmed. I myself would have disliked him had I known him in high school, but I grasp now that that would have been rather wrongheaded. Sometimes wisdom accrues…
Many of the followers of mainstream-progressive conventional wisdom seem to be using this logic: Teenaged Kavanaugh was the sort of smug, entitled, heavy-drinking, hard-partying guy I would have hated in high school. He probably did all sorts of bad things. Therefore, Blasey Ford's accusation of attempted rape rings true, and is true. And even if it isn't -- this is still well-deserved payback for all the other stuff Kavanaugh must have played the Privilege card to get away with.
I paid the price, getting tossed around a lot and having to navigate physically charged situations against stronger, bigger peers. But by the time I was 17 and starting to fill out I could hang with most people. Then I put on a lot of lean body mass through my 20's. There are definite endocrinological benefits to weightlifting.
I've been reading Megan McCardle's and Ross Douthat's stuff this week and they clearly never got outside their nerd bubble. Now they're adults who are terrified by political reality and the human condition.
Lots of pundits, academics, and public and private bureaucrats are like this. To his credit, Rod seems less nebbish than most.
He’s only a quarter Jew!
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100% Backpfeifengesicht.
Radio host Savage has tweet up claiming the accuser is director of CIA recruitment at Stanford!
Also her brother, father, grandfather (Deak) ALL OF THEM CIA…
It’s all deep state all the time against Team Trump… every attack comes from the same octopus…
Ben has posted on twitter some of his (10th grade?) high school yearbook stuff from The Community School in Sun Valley, Idaho. It’s not a community school like a community college, it’s not even a public school. It is however a very diverse s c h o o l. Besides Hollywood kids, Ben got to party with Olympic skier-to-be Miss Langley McNeal … these kind of contacts help Ben with his deep insights into the working man’s struggles … like the original Mother Jones. Maybe that’s why Lloyd Bankfein’s sons are so successful too!
OT China sharpens its knife, USA babbles about Russia
https://futurism.com/the-byte/gene-drive-mosquitos-crispr
Why is it back on the table?
And Jews wonder why people don’t like them
The real reason Jews don’t send their kids to private school is that they can’t afford it because they’re paying off the credit card bills and loans for $200,000 to million dollar bar bar mitzvahs.
Then too in public schools Jews can learn to feel oh so superior to the dumb goyim.
A scourge perhaps second only to Chaim migration, is Chait migration.
Dreyfuss is of course right. Kavanaugh is a smarmy beltway intellectual light weight who was a drunk non-entity in college and is unable to act like a man when under pressure. Swamp creature par excellence.
Skeptics notwithstanding, a genuine sense of outrage is powerful because it moves people. Skeptics don't give credit for our human ability to distinguish the real from the put on. This goes back to our primate nature and group dynamics. It's hard wired into us to yield to a fellow hominid who is righteously aroused. Being in the right is a powerful ally--and don't pretend you don't know what that means.
In plain English, we all have innate bullshit detectors and Kavanaugh passed the test.
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100% asshole, though. …worst of both worlds.
Also her brother, father, grandfather (Deak) ALL OF THEM CIA...
It's all deep state all the time against Team Trump... every attack comes from the same octopus...
Ok, but some links?
It would be very interesting if Nicholas Deak, a very interesting person, were CBF’s grandfather, but that shouldn’t be hard to prove if she is his granddaughter — e.g. Deak would have had a child named either Ralph or Paula. Did he?
Also they are putting forth a whacky link to some mentor psych professor of hers from Stanford somehow being related to Deaks murder, by mentoring or counseling Deak’s murderer.
Tin foil hat territory.
My only takeaway is from the picture, that Blasey played Michael J Fox’s youngest sister on Family Ties.
http://wetheonepeople.com/daughter-of-cia-assassin-paymaster-tries-to-bring-down-trump-supreme-court-nominee-kavanaugh/
The banker Nicholas Deak appears in the 1940 Census returns, married but with no children.
SporadicMyrmidon:
Rod Dreher is a pusillanimous fool. His Benedict Option and Dante books camouflage his political/social cowardice. I not so fondly refer to him as Mr Mishy Mashy, as he’s constantly shilling his books!
No, you would have been right then. The descent from Scalia to Kavanaugh pretty much sums up the degradation of the GOP.
Kavanaugh is not exactly Scalia, true, but who is? He showed some fire in his belly today, and I think he will emerge from this experience a better man.
Me thinks immigration enforcement was the real reason for the democrat over-the-top-foaming-at-the-mouth hissy fit. They simply found their old "he gropes!" game plan easiest to implement.
If only they'd dragged the Hill-beast over the finish line, the Demo-Repub Establishment would have ramped up mass immigration to FL and TX in order to lock down those electoral votes for game-set-match.
But that outsider came down that escalator . . .
I wouldn’t go that far. Jesuit schools are not really all that religious or Catholic.
If you want a real Catholic education – where “the dogma lives within” – for your son, the place for him in the metro-DC area is The Heights: https://heights.edu/
For girls, it would Oakcrest: http://www.oakcrest.org/
The Heights is run by Opus Dei, which is more conservative than the Jesuits, but nobody except for serious conservative Catholics will know or care.
Also her brother, father, grandfather (Deak) ALL OF THEM CIA...
It's all deep state all the time against Team Trump... every attack comes from the same octopus...
Except her family is conspicuously absent. They are not supporting her (like her husband’s family) and have offered only bland, non-committal statements of loving her as a daughter. That leads me to think that they know full well about her behaviors as a teen.
Speculating--my guess is that they know she's a BPD drama queen; have had to live with it for years.
But Sotomayor is just the intellectual heavyweight that’s going to save the country, right?
Kavanaugh is not exactly Scalia, true, but who is? He showed some fire in his belly today, and I think he will emerge from this experience a better man.
For many people--including ridiculously too many white men--they don't really "get it" until they get their nose rubbed in it.
Kavanaugh has been getting an education.
Gorsuch didn't go through this, because unlike Kavanaugh, Gorsuch is not an asshole and does have some intellectual chops.
“Ruth Bader Ginsburg says she is ‘really turned on’ by #MeToo movement”: https://abcnews.go.com/US/ruth-bader-ginsburg-turned-metoo-movement/story?id=58120912
I guess you’re never too old to say #MeTooPlease?
If you want a real Catholic education - where "the dogma lives within" - for your son, the place for him in the metro-DC area is The Heights: https://heights.edu/
For girls, it would Oakcrest: http://www.oakcrest.org/
In my experience this is true.
I was going to say something else, but I just looked at your history and saw you affirming the news that Lindsay Graham has a set of gonads, so I’ll stick with that! Live and learn!
Georgetown Prep Student Body
Enrollment: 491
Students come from 14 states and 19 countries, including Spain, Nigeria, Korea, and Venezuela
Demographics: 63% Caucasian, 11% African American, 16% Asian, 6% Latino
Financial Aid: 26% of families receive financial aid; average grant is $19,000
100% enrollment in 4-year college
If you were even a semi-serious adherent of another faith, would you want to attend a Catholic school?
When it comes to financial aid, it looks like they're running the same con as the colleges. The more you have, the more you have to pay. I'd rather see a much lower sticker price and charge everyone the same amount.
These conspiracy theories always use someone’s relatives most tenuous, possible “links” to the CIA to insinuate that the whole family works for the CIA and runs operations together, like it’s a family business or something. The CIA is a giant bureaucracy, not a family run hardware store.
Oh my! this guy must have read my comments about Tom and tried to be cool and acerbic, and all…he used bro, all the bro & football stuff I wrote the last 3 hours. These are the kids everyone hated in HS btw, the kids who hated the kids that were good at sports; were the best violinist; best at dance; best at debate; beat at chess (yeah) best at art, cake-making, etc. My feeling: everyone who hated how awesome Kavanaugh was today….is so sick with anger and envy. They don’t have the civility to wish or want other humans to even succeed. People who hate Kavanaugh are misanthropes.
If you want a real Catholic education - where "the dogma lives within" - for your son, the place for him in the metro-DC area is The Heights: https://heights.edu/
For girls, it would Oakcrest: http://www.oakcrest.org/
Yes, but that’s mostly inside baseball stuff. Some serious Catholics don’t think the Jesuits are serious enough, but to most ordinary Catholics, and especially to every non-Catholic, they don’t know or care about the difference. They’re still religious and run by priests and stuff, so Jewish students don’t attend, unlike the Protestant/secular prep school, many of which have lots of well off Jewish students.
The Heights is run by Opus Dei, which is more conservative than the Jesuits, but nobody except for serious conservative Catholics will know or care.
https://futurism.com/the-byte/gene-drive-mosquitos-crispr
The Chair recognizes the Honorable Ambassador from /pol/.
Hmm, I have some reactions to Blasey, fright at her future heavyweight political influence wasn’t really one… “class traitor,” huh? That famous tribe of rock-ribbed Republicans tenured in soft-science regional academia?
I think it amusing that rah-rah liberals are so proud of their personal suspicions/convictions as to whether the accused Bethesda Strangler really dun it, for the case of the unfalsifiable openly-conceded not-rape of Blasey, or for the rest–as if this were a national Zeitgeist, primetime-HBO limited series everyone was anxiously following for the scripted twists and turns, and some of that cachet would rub off on you if you spouted nuggets of couch-potato wisdom at the water cooler. All their geeky insight into the precise ranking of Brett in the serial killer HOF just don’t matter, not one freaking bit… It’s useless masturbation, without facts, without reality. Who wore it better, Anita or Chrissy?
I refuse to abet nerd/autist soap opera fandom; therefore I profess to be agnostic about whether Brett was truly an abortive raper-jock or not, way back then, but seeing how it couldn’t be proved even MINIMALLY, stop breathing your clam sauce breath on me about it. And Kavanaugh’s irate, immature testimony may well have been unbecoming an SC justice yet was a perfect coda for a guy who’d already humiliated himself extensively and failed repeatedly to be alpha… Let’s not stand on ceremony so late in the day. Also helpful to the confirmation would be Lindsey’s disgruntled-SEC-coach-press-conference speech.
Also her brother, father, grandfather (Deak) ALL OF THEM CIA...
It's all deep state all the time against Team Trump... every attack comes from the same octopus...
It’s deep state vs deep state…Kavanaugh was swampy under Clinton and Bush, while Blasie’s father was involved in MKUltra and othe CIA atrocities….
Nevertheless, Kavanaugh will apparently be confirmed on Saturday…
https://futurism.com/the-byte/gene-drive-mosquitos-crispr
That was talked about 15 years ago, I remember ethics discussion on this.
Why is it back on the table?
It’s remarkable how much the Left has dropped the mask and just let their hate shine forth: women hating men, minorities hating “white men,” and Jews hating Christians. Dreyfuss’s tweet is about the 8 millionth Jewish anti-Kavanaugh tweet I’ve read, every single one of which attacked not his character but his “privilege” – even by alleged Jewish conservatives like Jennifer Rubin. He must really press all the buttons in that particular psyche.
Leftists really, really seem to have reached the conclusion that they’ll never again need us or our votes. Any white man who votes for the Democrats is an idiot. Any white woman who votes for them is pissing where they eat.
He’s rising, they’re falling.
Blasey-Ford was/is a liar. Her husband will divorce her…she will be demoted to some pathetic, low level faculty with whatever U/college wants to take her on – She is radioactive.
Dr. Ford has Histrionic Personality Disorder.
Leftists really, really seem to have reached the conclusion that they'll never again need us or our votes. Any white man who votes for the Democrats is an idiot. Any white woman who votes for them is pissing where they eat.
This is what is best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let them keep hating. Hate of whites by leftists is good. Next: Psyops of what really is torture, what really is ripping up bodies who will not believe in the State Policy.
Regression to the mean is the engine of Progressivism (sic).
Resentment of good athletes is not a basis on which to run a republic. If the battle of Waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eton then we are certainly going to be conquered and destroyed. But everyone who didn’t make varsity will have their revenge. So there is that. The battle of Waterloo will not be won on the playing fields of the Huffington Post.
Leftists really, really seem to have reached the conclusion that they'll never again need us or our votes. Any white man who votes for the Democrats is an idiot. Any white woman who votes for them is pissing where they eat.
“He must really press all the buttons in that particular psyche.”
He’s rising, they’re falling.
Rod may be growing some too, but his comment section sure isn’t, and bears witness to how much of a squish he’s been.
“Sad little lily white” is anti-white hate speech.
Christine Blasey Ford’s family has been nearly silent amid outpouring of support
Enrollment: 491
Students come from 14 states and 19 countries, including Spain, Nigeria, Korea, and Venezuela
Demographics: 63% Caucasian, 11% African American, 16% Asian, 6% Latino
Financial Aid: 26% of families receive financial aid; average grant is $19,000
100% enrollment in 4-year college
I wonder if they have some of those super-special “African-Americans” from Nigeria.
You can pretty much count on it. 'Optics'
1. Mulattoes with white (often Jewish) mother. Usually AA father is not around. (Obama).
2. African- Africans and Caribbean Africans. Obama again and all the "blacks" in his cabinet.
3. Recruited athletes who are American slave descendants. Moochelle's brother.
4. American slave descendants who are not athletes. This is the most rare category. A few Talented Tenth types and a few relatively bright ghetto kids who have been identified and channeled into prep schools on full scholarship. Very few of the ghetto kids made it all the way to graduation at my kids schools, especially not the boys once the testosterone kicks in - they all did stereotypically stupid ghetto stuff and got booted.
Leftists really, really seem to have reached the conclusion that they'll never again need us or our votes. Any white man who votes for the Democrats is an idiot. Any white woman who votes for them is pissing where they eat.
The hatred of ‘frat boy’ types has been a focal point for lefties for quite a few years now.
I recall a conversation I had with a hometown friend of mine who’d drifted left over the years. It was in the early 2000s, just after W’s election. My friend, in reference to our then newly-elected (although he of course disputed that) president, said something like ‘I can’t believe that frat boy is president!’
He hissed the phrase ‘frat boy’ with so much venom it caught me off guard, even though I knew well his political leanings.
It was a window into the left’s burning desire for Goldstein, and a harbinger of much worse to come.
Jesus, just look at Dreyfuss’ Twitter userpic and background. Nary a minority in sight, just lily-white people doing lily-white-people-things.
A Jew. I would expect little else.
Exactly. Along with having this life-altering trauma take place in an unknow location in the space-time continuum and none of her girlfriends ever being told about it–told to “avoid that Brett Kavanaugh creep. He tried to rape me!”–the lack of family support is telling.
Speculating–my guess is that they know she’s a BPD drama queen; have had to live with it for years.
And Ghana, and Kenya, and Gabon, and on and on.
You can pretty much count on it. ‘Optics’
If you want a real Catholic education - where "the dogma lives within" - for your son, the place for him in the metro-DC area is The Heights: https://heights.edu/
For girls, it would Oakcrest: http://www.oakcrest.org/
I went to The Heights for a little while. Freddy Adu arrived right after I left, back when he was about the biggest name in soccer news. I was friends with Bill Blatty’s son Peter, who died a few years later after ruining his heart with heroin—but not before he got good with God. Blatty wrote a book about it that’s pretty cool. The Littlest Suffering Souls is a recent book by Austin Ruse about Leonard Leo’s daughter Margaret, and a kid named Brendan Kelly who went to The Heights. Both now deceased, both clearly were saints.
Kavanaugh is not exactly Scalia, true, but who is? He showed some fire in his belly today, and I think he will emerge from this experience a better man.
My take too.
For many people–including ridiculously too many white men–they don’t really “get it” until they get their nose rubbed in it.
Kavanaugh has been getting an education.
Indeed. Clarence Thomas was put through a wringer like this during his confirmation process and unlike Souter or other justices he’s never really moved to the left.....erm... evolved.
May Kavanaugh be confirmed, and may he never forget.
As Kav was reminiscing about his many platonic female friends in high school, he reminded me of Jonathan Franzen’s character Walter Bergland in Freedom. Also like Bergland, Kav is physically unimpressive and looks soft and round. (I wouldn’t have guessed he was any kind of athlete either, before he told us.)
I met a genuine frat boy on an academic trip: straight out of a movie, handsome, athletic, outgoing, superficially obnoxious, actually charming and generous. I would totally buy him a drink if I ever met him again (in part because I owe him one for what he bought me). I wonder how much hate for frat boys is misinterpretation.
Washington Post:
Dreyfus doesn’t understand Catholic all boys’ prep school culture. There aren’t mutually hostile, rigid subcultures of “nerds” and “jocks” and whatever else. Sports is about competition and school spirit at these places. Guys who aren’t on the football or basketball don’t sulk around and hate or envy the players. They run the pep rallies and go to the games. Kavanaugh doesn’t seem to have been John Stockton or something. He was a very ambitious and hardworking kid. Dreyfus is projecting some sort of Hollywood image of high school.
He was a hero on campus, even among the football players.
My take is that there's some weird sorting at the beginning among freshmen which seems at least partially motivated by homophobia (I mean the good kind). You'll often hear declarations that some boy is only there because their parents made him go and he really wants to be at the Archdiocesan high school. (Although in my time nearly all of them were all boys schools too). It takes a while to develop mutual respect through academic and athletic competition. It probably helps that they're not all jockeying for the attention of the same pool of girls all day.
You can pretty much count on it. 'Optics'
A lot of them are recruited athletes.
An article I linked to has Dreyfuss scoring 3 points off the bench for the Community School hoops team.
“Dreyfus is projecting some sort of Hollywood image of high school.”
Ya think he’s influenced by movies?
https://futurism.com/the-byte/gene-drive-mosquitos-crispr
This is horribly off topic, but the iSteve commenters can surely explain this to a layman: what exactly is so special about a “gene drive” as opposed to any other form of genetic tinkering that can then be passed on though to subsequent generations?
OK, so you produce a male mosquito which can only produce viable male mosquitos, whose offspring will only produce viable male mosquitos. But there are lots of other male mosquitos out there whose offspring include viable female mosquitos. Won’t they end up the genetic winners?
A kind of mental gene drive called feminism-and-higher-education is suppressing birth rates among intelligent women in the UK. But women of less intelligence but with a different kind of mental gene drive are putting on their headscarves and reproducing exponentially.
“The future belongs to those who show up for it”
Was his name Doug by any chance? And did he dominate you?
That’s some boast to go to a 30k a year school with the son of Lloyd Blankfein and claim you wanted to cheat at your lab work but to then crow that even the son of Lloyd Blankfein thought it was too petty. Christ.
As Steve has mentioned before, their own Twitter feeds are journalists’ worst enemy.
I’m afraid I have to dissent on this one: Ben Dreyfuss is doing the bare minimum here, and probably not enough to keep his job. He is a white guy editor working for Mother Jones; he needs to be getting ahead of the woke crowd early and often.
Ian Buruma is a roughly 1,000 times more talented writer than Dreyfuss, had been a super reliable apologist for Team Blue for 40 odd years, and he just got the boot for not being woke enough.
Dreyfuss Senior is a Hollywood star: has he ever had any relationships that might be viewed as problematic in hindsight in 2018? Because the sins of the father very much pass to the son in the age of #MeToo.
If I were Dreyfuss Junior I would be pushing out twitter denunciations of Team Red hourly.
https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/nLaeDow0RSo7vFhEpP7FwIS3Z28=/1400x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/EZXPWDPU6XTEQBFCD23F4X7Y74.jpg
Ian Buruma is a roughly 1,000 times more talented writer than Dreyfuss, had been a super reliable apologist for Team Blue for 40 odd years, and he just got the boot for not being woke enough.
Dreyfuss Senior is a Hollywood star: has he ever had any relationships that might be viewed as problematic in hindsight in 2018? Because the sins of the father very much pass to the son in the age of #MeToo.
If I were Dreyfuss Junior I would be pushing out twitter denunciations of Team Red hourly.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/photos-show-richard-dreyfuss-groping-fans-broadway-show-article-1.3801540
Alinskyite pseudoprojection.
Kavanaugh is not exactly Scalia, true, but who is? He showed some fire in his belly today, and I think he will emerge from this experience a better man.
Fire in his belly? More like a whiny crybaby. He is the epitome of the swamp Trump promised to clean up. There are many other, better conservative district court judges Trump could have picked, but he decided he needed to curry favor with the Federalists.
Gorsuch didn’t go through this, because unlike Kavanaugh, Gorsuch is not an asshole and does have some intellectual chops.
Al Franken is an alumnus of The Blake School. Even though the school is nominally nondenominational, students were made to attend chapel every day, and Al was made to sing the hymns, such as “Onward, Christian Soldiers”.
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Forgive me if I am missing the joke, but what evidence is there that Ben is Latino?
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Forgive me if I am missing the joke, but what evidence is there that Ben is Latino?
The video.
What, she wanted an armed revolution rather than just comfy anti-white anarcho-tyranny?
I’m more wondering about a “drei fuss” mutant in that family’s past.
Other than Gene Simmons, has there been anybody born in Israel who has come here and made a positive impact on America?
I can’t really substantiate it, but mutually hostile, rigid subcultures used to be rare in daytime prep schools, and almost completely absent in boarding schools. They’re more a thing in (some) public schools. Perhaps affirmative action (Georgetown Prep has a significant number of blacks and Asians) has changed that somewhat.
Dreyfus is a good name to think about in this shitshow. Lindsay Graham delivered a strong, if short, J’accuse.
Gorsuch didn't go through this, because unlike Kavanaugh, Gorsuch is not an asshole and does have some intellectual chops.
Gorsuch replaced Scalia. Kav is trying to replace Kennedy who was more of a swing vote.
And apparently Kav had a wilder youth than Gorsuch, which has made fertile ground for these accusations.
They clearly saw Trump's filling of the Kennedy seat as far greater threat to their plan than Trump's filling of the Scalia seat.
Obviously, the reason Kavanaugh mentioned his athletic, academic, and extracurricular achievements was to pour cold water on the b.s. alcoholism charge: no way a teenage boozer could have done all of that.
I see what he’s getting at. I’m no stranger to a few drinks. And my friends and I would try and get away to knock a few back out have a party in high school. But I was also a decent enough athlete in high school. And we took it pretty seriously. That meant that we pretty much abstained from drinking during football and basketball season. Most of the hijinx occurred on summer breaks when we had more time.
Gorsuch didn't go through this, because unlike Kavanaugh, Gorsuch is not an asshole and does have some intellectual chops.
When he was nominated I went and read Gorsuch’s book on why suicide/abortion is a sin. He mostly was arguing against Richard Posner. Very unimpressive book, argument and style wise.
Exactly. There was an Indian kid on the wrestling team at my son’s school who didn’t win a match until his senior year. They kept him on the team for his GPA. I think he pulled a 780 math score on the SAT. He worked his backside off at wrestling, had no quit in him.
He was a hero on campus, even among the football players.
I think someone that played ball at a school like Mater Dei or Concord de la salle has more bragging rights than playing at Detroit central.
Looking at some photos of ol’ Ben, he seems the type who’d gone from tight end to wide receiver while at school.
No kiddin. At least Gene is down to earth.
Prep school African Americans tend to fall into 4 (sometimes overlapping) categories, just like the Ivy League AA’s that they will later turn into:
1. Mulattoes with white (often Jewish) mother. Usually AA father is not around. (Obama).
2. African- Africans and Caribbean Africans. Obama again and all the “blacks” in his cabinet.
3. Recruited athletes who are American slave descendants. Moochelle’s brother.
4. American slave descendants who are not athletes. This is the most rare category. A few Talented Tenth types and a few relatively bright ghetto kids who have been identified and channeled into prep schools on full scholarship. Very few of the ghetto kids made it all the way to graduation at my kids schools, especially not the boys once the testosterone kicks in – they all did stereotypically stupid ghetto stuff and got booted.
For many people--including ridiculously too many white men--they don't really "get it" until they get their nose rubbed in it.
Kavanaugh has been getting an education.
“For many people–including ridiculously too many white men–they don’t really “get it” until they get their nose rubbed in it.”
Indeed. Clarence Thomas was put through a wringer like this during his confirmation process and unlike Souter or other justices he’s never really moved to the left…..erm… evolved.
May Kavanaugh be confirmed, and may he never forget.
As an aside, does everyone remember when the Republicans were the joyless, prudish party?
Whereas yesterday, you had the Democrats carrying on.
“Mr, Kavanaugh sir, do you now, or have you ever, drank alcohol?
More important, a chance to link to this Tom T. Hall classic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG5gWk-1m10
I honestly don’t know whether Gorsuch had a wilder youth or not, because the Dems chose not to dig minutely thru his childhood and parse his yearbook word by word. As you say, he was not replacing a swing Justice so they were not as motivated.
I would not characterize K as having had a “wild youth”, in fact far from it. He was clearly a very ambitious young man and was very focused on being a top competitor in academics and sports and his future career so there could not have been a lot of time left over for wildness as his calendar demonstrates. In fact I would consider him to be a bit of a tool and lacking coolness. He seems particularly lacking in drug use – keeps talking about brewskis as if it was 1952 and not 1982 – where are all the references to bong hits, etc.? Compare and contrast Obama. Note that even in the Dems accounts (discounting the totally incredible ones about rape trains) there is only 1 alleged instance of high school wildness. Truly wild youths have a rap sheet a mile long.
I see your point about the sobbing but I have my doubts that calling Blasey a loony slattern and punching Blumenthal in the teeth would have helped his chances at confirmation.
No, it was because Kavanaugh’s selection came close to the midterms and with the expectation of a change in political. If Kavanaugh had been selected at the time of Gorsuch he would have sailed through and Gorsuch’s life would be destroyed.
Well, I’ll have to say that she just showed them.
I had an experience (mostly) at a school quite similar to Kavanaugh’s.
My take is that there’s some weird sorting at the beginning among freshmen which seems at least partially motivated by homophobia (I mean the good kind). You’ll often hear declarations that some boy is only there because their parents made him go and he really wants to be at the Archdiocesan high school. (Although in my time nearly all of them were all boys schools too). It takes a while to develop mutual respect through academic and athletic competition. It probably helps that they’re not all jockeying for the attention of the same pool of girls all day.
When Harris’ disingenuous “we didn’t do this to Gorsuch” speech in the form of a question was made, I thought that they didn’t pull the interruptions and delays on display at Kavanaugh’s hearing from the beginning, and they didn’t invite in their sad army of agitators to disrupt the proceedings in planned 10 minute increments either.
They clearly saw Trump’s filling of the Kennedy seat as far greater threat to their plan than Trump’s filling of the Scalia seat.
Dreher is obviously not a dumb man and, in many ways, he is extremely perceptive about the cultural trends in the West today. However, you are correct that, fundamentally he is a coward. He shrinks from confrontation and is likely dealing with mental health issues. It’s why he apostatized from Catholicism during the first outbreak of the pederasty revelations in the early 2000’s, yet he continues to write obsessively about the Church like some Rad Trad, especially lately.
Or, he was a decent, middle-class man who mistakenly or naively believed that his competence as a jurist put him above politics, making him vulnerable to being blindsided by the sordidness and shamelessness of his accusers. In the end though, his honest outrage was his best ally.
Skeptics notwithstanding, a genuine sense of outrage is powerful because it moves people. Skeptics don’t give credit for our human ability to distinguish the real from the put on. This goes back to our primate nature and group dynamics. It’s hard wired into us to yield to a fellow hominid who is righteously aroused. Being in the right is a powerful ally–and don’t pretend you don’t know what that means.
In plain English, we all have innate bullshit detectors and Kavanaugh passed the test.
But in America 2018, this was not going to fly. There is no joking in Feminism - they are completely humorless. His only choice was to totally deny the whole thing - any admission that he was even in the same room with her would have been the end. So to my mind, he would be fully justified in lying and secure in the knowledge that there is no one (Judge having also denied it) who could prove otherwise. Just like it's never wrong to punch a Nazi, there is no dishonor in lying to totalitarians. If K is lying, I admire him all the more for it.
Mark Judge is the weak link in the chain here. He is a weak man, an addict. K and the committee have done the right thing by keeping him away from the FBI and from testifying on TV. Aside from stalling, he is why the dems keep asking for an FBI investigation. He is STILL the one who could torpedo this whole thing if he someday "remembers" what happened in that room.
Deak isn’t her grandfather. I think the crazies are saying this, but what I see is that after Deak was killed, Ralph Blasey took over as the CIA’s blackops banker, or something.
Also they are putting forth a whacky link to some mentor psych professor of hers from Stanford somehow being related to Deaks murder, by mentoring or counseling Deak’s murderer.
Tin foil hat territory.
My only takeaway is from the picture, that Blasey played Michael J Fox’s youngest sister on Family Ties.
http://wetheonepeople.com/daughter-of-cia-assassin-paymaster-tries-to-bring-down-trump-supreme-court-nominee-kavanaugh/
The recruited athletes from Ben Dreyfus’s “community school” are skiers. Skiers are the least white thing ever.
A truly excellent observation.
Amnon Yariv for one. But the good ones are swamped by the likes of the Emanuels and their ilk.
Most of these schools are too small to allow a lot of cliques to form. They have maybe 50 or 75 kids/grade. This is completely different than the dynamic in a large public school where you have 700 in a class. 3,000 kids in total allows for the formation of dozens of different cliques – the nerds and the stoners and the jocks and the goths and the Asians and the blacks and the this and the that ad infinitum.
There's a competitive attitude that prevails in these schools not just in athletics but in academics, and the top students are more respected than most of the athletes, since the top students are understood to be headed towards successful careers, whereas most of the athletes are not going to play in college or professionally. I suspect the all boys setting makes a difference here. In a coed setting, athletes get immediate female attention, even though the vast majority of them will have no athletic careers beyond high school.
K moved in very elite (you might even say effete) circles and was totally unprepared for this kind of low blow street fighting – he was used to getting praise from everyone, including Democrats, because he really is a fine jurist. Seeing the Democrats take a bulldozer to the edifice that he has spent 30 years carefully constructing was indeed enough to make a grown man cry, especially a grown man who has been largely shielded from the rough and tumble. His intellectual credentials are just fine.
Of the short list candidates, wasn’t BK the most likely to rule in favor of immigration law enforcement?
Me thinks immigration enforcement was the real reason for the democrat over-the-top-foaming-at-the-mouth hissy fit. They simply found their old “he gropes!” game plan easiest to implement.
If only they’d dragged the Hill-beast over the finish line, the Demo-Repub Establishment would have ramped up mass immigration to FL and TX in order to lock down those electoral votes for game-set-match.
But that outsider came down that escalator . . .
Whereas yesterday, you had the Democrats carrying on.
“Mr, Kavanaugh sir, do you now, or have you ever, drank alcohol?
He has common ground with Obama – bring on the beer summit!!
More important, a chance to link to this Tom T. Hall classic:
https://nyoobserver-files-wordpress-com.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/ben-dreyfuss.jpeg?quality=80&w=635
And yet the hatred of the Other persists, despite his mother and grandmother being Gentile, and his growing up rich and privileged in Beverly Hills. Did the captain of The Community school’s basketball varsity look like Kavanaugh and was mean to him? Or were they all Blankfein types?
Skeptics notwithstanding, a genuine sense of outrage is powerful because it moves people. Skeptics don't give credit for our human ability to distinguish the real from the put on. This goes back to our primate nature and group dynamics. It's hard wired into us to yield to a fellow hominid who is righteously aroused. Being in the right is a powerful ally--and don't pretend you don't know what that means.
In plain English, we all have innate bullshit detectors and Kavanaugh passed the test.
I really don’t have the foggiest idea which one of those two was the boldface liar. It could well have been K. This was a rigged game – he was being asked about an incident 36 years ago that should have no bearing on his adult life. Juvenile records are sealed for a reason. He never actually raped anyone – even if true, it sounds like teenage horseplay to me at worst. Even if something happened in that room, Blasey has embellished this incident to the point where she was about to be raped and/or suffocated. This is completely in her head – nothing of the sort was going to happen. And then she says that the boys were laughing – clearly (if it happened at all) they considered it all a joke and not a serious effort at raping or suffocating a woman.
But in America 2018, this was not going to fly. There is no joking in Feminism – they are completely humorless. His only choice was to totally deny the whole thing – any admission that he was even in the same room with her would have been the end. So to my mind, he would be fully justified in lying and secure in the knowledge that there is no one (Judge having also denied it) who could prove otherwise. Just like it’s never wrong to punch a Nazi, there is no dishonor in lying to totalitarians. If K is lying, I admire him all the more for it.
Mark Judge is the weak link in the chain here. He is a weak man, an addict. K and the committee have done the right thing by keeping him away from the FBI and from testifying on TV. Aside from stalling, he is why the dems keep asking for an FBI investigation. He is STILL the one who could torpedo this whole thing if he someday “remembers” what happened in that room.
> I really don’t have the foggiest idea which one of those two was the boldface liar.
It could be neither -- if Blasey Ford had been given a non-sham polygraph test, she could well have passed. (It would have been interesting if she had passed about her 36-year old account, but failed on her recent lies and evasions concerning the past few months' Feinstein kabuki theater. Not that that would have proved anything about long-ago events.) For all I know, Kavanaugh would pass, too. Memories can shift over the decades.
Feinstsein et al.'s plan (conspiracy) to keep Blasey Ford anonymous until the last minute meant that Mark Judge escaped testifying under subpoena. Nothing he said would have helped. Anything other than a complete denial ("I never attended a party with Blasey Ford and Kavanaugh") would have damaged and probably sunk Kavanaugh.
I don't have the foggiest idea what, if anything, Kavanaugh did or didn't do to Blasey Ford. I don't see the justification for the certainty that so many proclaim, on both sides of the divide. If any
personleftist woman can wreck anyother person'sman's reputation and career with any non-disprovable accusation, however ancient -- we are well into show trial territory.1. Again, no one in her family was enrolled in school with anyone in his family.
2. No indication his mother ever crossed paths professionally with her father or would have. He was a BigLaw litigator, she was a local prosecutor.
3. The two families lived 8 miles apart in a county which had 500,000 people living in suburban tract development at the time.
4. She named three other people as being present. All three denied knowing anything of any such incident and her chum Leland adds that she did not and does not know Brett Kavanaugh.
5. Details about Mark Judge are published information. See his 1997 memoir and his 2006 memoir. Kavanaugh makes a cameo appearance in Judge's 1997 memoir.
6. No one has produced a document which establishes she was acquainted with Kavanaugh or Judge, or any testimony from anyone that she was acquainted with them. The one person who identifies herself as having been a mutual acquaintance of the two said the two were not in intersecting social circles. Blasey identifies Christopher Garrett as a mutual acquaintance. He to date has said nothing.
7. Her story doesn't cohere well, she offers no identifying contextual details (no date, no address), her account to the marriage counselor and her letter to Eshoo identify different time frames (1982 v. 1985), &c.
8. The statement of support from her family is conspicuously missing some signatures.
This should give you at least a foggy idea that the woman is a producer of FanFiction.
I think you've confused Mark Judge with Michael Skakel.
How is it that one person she accuses is the one person enrolled at Georgetown Prep between 1977 and 1985 who has written published memoirs of his years there and another is a Geogetown Prep student who makes a cameo appearance in those memoirs? The memoirs were the raw material for the accusation. There was no room, no house, no pre-party, no afterparty.
Besides, exactly for cases such as this, I think, Kant forbade it to lie even for the greater good.
Besides, the judge, a churchgoing catholic, swore an oath before God. You want a SCJ be able to do that, perjuring himself before God, as a hypocrite of the highest degree?
And surely, it is almost always wrong to punch a Nazi - most Nazis are punched, when they're punched, without justification.
Which Ford took full part in.
> [Dreher] noted that Kavanaugh seemed the sort of guy he would have hated back then, but that he absolutely must be confirmed.
Many of the followers of mainstream-progressive conventional wisdom seem to be using this logic: Teenaged Kavanaugh was the sort of smug, entitled, heavy-drinking, hard-partying guy I would have hated in high school. He probably did all sorts of bad things. Therefore, Blasey Ford’s accusation of attempted rape rings true, and is true. And even if it isn’t — this is still well-deserved payback for all the other stuff Kavanaugh must have played the Privilege card to get away with.
Rod Dreher wrote that “I would’ve hated someone like Kavanaugh in HS”.
LOL. Some nerds never get over their envy of the BB Captain who dated the head Cheerleader.
Sportswriters used to always have that strain in them, until Blacks came to dominate Pro Sports.
Dreher also wrote he could sympathize with Ford, because some jocks held him down and took off his shorts in HS. He seemed to think it was a “sexual assault” because….whatever.
I’ve heard that when he was in 2nd grade, Gorsuch called a girl a “poopiehead”. Even now, it’s not too late to impeach.
Even if your assessment is accurate (and the “swamp creature” part probably is), that doesn’t make Dreyfuss right, since he said nothing at all like what you said.
He essentially said he hates white people.
There is a virulent strain of Jewish anti-gentilism disguised as anti-whiteism. American Jews are whiter-than-white in all respects, but many of them have an unspoken, bitter hatred of gentiles which they channel into this type of activity. One can only mention it on sites like this. So here we have an extremely privileged white male from the 0.1% complaining about the privileged white elite, when he obviously means white gentiles.
Her paternal-side grandfather was Ralph Blasey Sr., who was a bank manager at one point in his life. The database mavens at Ancestry identify Paula Blasey with one Paula Kay Bibler, who was born in Marion, Ohio in 1938. Paula Bibler’s father was one Paul Bibler. He married young (at 16), was a generic wage earner for about 8 years, had a stint in the Navy, and decamped to Prince George’s County, Md. after the war to do whatever, and died in Florida in 1994. If it’s that man’s wife who just died, she’d have been about 100 years old. There do not appear to be any obituaries online (e.g Legacy.com) which list Paula Blasey as a survivor.
The banker Nicholas Deak appears in the 1940 Census returns, married but with no children.
But in America 2018, this was not going to fly. There is no joking in Feminism - they are completely humorless. His only choice was to totally deny the whole thing - any admission that he was even in the same room with her would have been the end. So to my mind, he would be fully justified in lying and secure in the knowledge that there is no one (Judge having also denied it) who could prove otherwise. Just like it's never wrong to punch a Nazi, there is no dishonor in lying to totalitarians. If K is lying, I admire him all the more for it.
Mark Judge is the weak link in the chain here. He is a weak man, an addict. K and the committee have done the right thing by keeping him away from the FBI and from testifying on TV. Aside from stalling, he is why the dems keep asking for an FBI investigation. He is STILL the one who could torpedo this whole thing if he someday "remembers" what happened in that room.
Good analysis.
> I really don’t have the foggiest idea which one of those two was the boldface liar.
It could be neither — if Blasey Ford had been given a non-sham polygraph test, she could well have passed. (It would have been interesting if she had passed about her 36-year old account, but failed on her recent lies and evasions concerning the past few months’ Feinstein kabuki theater. Not that that would have proved anything about long-ago events.) For all I know, Kavanaugh would pass, too. Memories can shift over the decades.
Feinstsein et al.’s plan (conspiracy) to keep Blasey Ford anonymous until the last minute meant that Mark Judge escaped testifying under subpoena. Nothing he said would have helped. Anything other than a complete denial (“I never attended a party with Blasey Ford and Kavanaugh”) would have damaged and probably sunk Kavanaugh.
I don’t have the foggiest idea what, if anything, Kavanaugh did or didn’t do to Blasey Ford. I don’t see the justification for the certainty that so many proclaim, on both sides of the divide. If any
personleftist woman can wreck anyother person’sman’s reputation and career with any non-disprovable accusation, however ancient — we are well into show trial territory.Skeptics notwithstanding, a genuine sense of outrage is powerful because it moves people. Skeptics don't give credit for our human ability to distinguish the real from the put on. This goes back to our primate nature and group dynamics. It's hard wired into us to yield to a fellow hominid who is righteously aroused. Being in the right is a powerful ally--and don't pretend you don't know what that means.
In plain English, we all have innate bullshit detectors and Kavanaugh passed the test.
He worked on the Ken Starr investigation.
As opposed to all those sad little sallow Jewish prep schools, I guess.
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Forgive me if I am missing the joke, but what evidence is there that Ben is Latino?
Franken graduated high school in 1969, half a century ago. Certainly those schools were closer to their Protestant roots back then. But they were still a lot less formally religious than Catholic schools.
These days, many of those schools no longer have mandatory chapel, and many of those that do are not just nondenominational, but have secular services.
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/12/us/at-phillips-exeter-a-world-of-religious-diversity.html
It’s not just class size. It’s because there’s a dominant religion and culture of boosterism and school spirit that everyone is pressured into. Nobody cares if you’re not on the football team. They do care if you don’t go to pep rallies and games to cheer on the school, which is something any student, irrespective of athletic ability, can do and is expected to do. You’ll be ostracized if you’re a snarky guy who thinks he’s too cool for school spirit.
There’s a competitive attitude that prevails in these schools not just in athletics but in academics, and the top students are more respected than most of the athletes, since the top students are understood to be headed towards successful careers, whereas most of the athletes are not going to play in college or professionally. I suspect the all boys setting makes a difference here. In a coed setting, athletes get immediate female attention, even though the vast majority of them will have no athletic careers beyond high school.
Enrollment: 491
Students come from 14 states and 19 countries, including Spain, Nigeria, Korea, and Venezuela
Demographics: 63% Caucasian, 11% African American, 16% Asian, 6% Latino
Financial Aid: 26% of families receive financial aid; average grant is $19,000
100% enrollment in 4-year college
And they’re all Catholic.
If you were even a semi-serious adherent of another faith, would you want to attend a Catholic school?
When it comes to financial aid, it looks like they’re running the same con as the colleges. The more you have, the more you have to pay. I’d rather see a much lower sticker price and charge everyone the same amount.
But in America 2018, this was not going to fly. There is no joking in Feminism - they are completely humorless. His only choice was to totally deny the whole thing - any admission that he was even in the same room with her would have been the end. So to my mind, he would be fully justified in lying and secure in the knowledge that there is no one (Judge having also denied it) who could prove otherwise. Just like it's never wrong to punch a Nazi, there is no dishonor in lying to totalitarians. If K is lying, I admire him all the more for it.
Mark Judge is the weak link in the chain here. He is a weak man, an addict. K and the committee have done the right thing by keeping him away from the FBI and from testifying on TV. Aside from stalling, he is why the dems keep asking for an FBI investigation. He is STILL the one who could torpedo this whole thing if he someday "remembers" what happened in that room.
I really don’t have the foggiest idea which one of those two was the boldface liar. It could well have been K.
1. Again, no one in her family was enrolled in school with anyone in his family.
2. No indication his mother ever crossed paths professionally with her father or would have. He was a BigLaw litigator, she was a local prosecutor.
3. The two families lived 8 miles apart in a county which had 500,000 people living in suburban tract development at the time.
4. She named three other people as being present. All three denied knowing anything of any such incident and her chum Leland adds that she did not and does not know Brett Kavanaugh.
5. Details about Mark Judge are published information. See his 1997 memoir and his 2006 memoir. Kavanaugh makes a cameo appearance in Judge’s 1997 memoir.
6. No one has produced a document which establishes she was acquainted with Kavanaugh or Judge, or any testimony from anyone that she was acquainted with them. The one person who identifies herself as having been a mutual acquaintance of the two said the two were not in intersecting social circles. Blasey identifies Christopher Garrett as a mutual acquaintance. He to date has said nothing.
7. Her story doesn’t cohere well, she offers no identifying contextual details (no date, no address), her account to the marriage counselor and her letter to Eshoo identify different time frames (1982 v. 1985), &c.
8. The statement of support from her family is conspicuously missing some signatures.
This should give you at least a foggy idea that the woman is a producer of FanFiction.
But in America 2018, this was not going to fly. There is no joking in Feminism - they are completely humorless. His only choice was to totally deny the whole thing - any admission that he was even in the same room with her would have been the end. So to my mind, he would be fully justified in lying and secure in the knowledge that there is no one (Judge having also denied it) who could prove otherwise. Just like it's never wrong to punch a Nazi, there is no dishonor in lying to totalitarians. If K is lying, I admire him all the more for it.
Mark Judge is the weak link in the chain here. He is a weak man, an addict. K and the committee have done the right thing by keeping him away from the FBI and from testifying on TV. Aside from stalling, he is why the dems keep asking for an FBI investigation. He is STILL the one who could torpedo this whole thing if he someday "remembers" what happened in that room.
He is STILL the one who could torpedo this whole thing if he someday “remembers” what happened in that room.
I think you’ve confused Mark Judge with Michael Skakel.
How is it that one person she accuses is the one person enrolled at Georgetown Prep between 1977 and 1985 who has written published memoirs of his years there and another is a Geogetown Prep student who makes a cameo appearance in those memoirs? The memoirs were the raw material for the accusation. There was no room, no house, no pre-party, no afterparty.
I really don't believe that this was a total Jackie Coakley style intentionally plotted hoax by BF. She doesn't seem to be a Jackie style sociopath, which is what you need to be to pull off a Jackie style fraud. Sociopaths/conmen possess a sort of creepy unnatural smoothness and confidence (often mistaken for the real thing - in fact that's one way to spot a sociopath - normal humans are filled with doubts and fears but sociopaths have none) which BF does not have (despite saying that she is 100% certain). You can hear the difference if you listen to the Jackie- Erdely tapes.
The name Dreyfus means someone from the city of Trier. Karl Marx’s hometown.
I think you've confused Mark Judge with Michael Skakel.
How is it that one person she accuses is the one person enrolled at Georgetown Prep between 1977 and 1985 who has written published memoirs of his years there and another is a Geogetown Prep student who makes a cameo appearance in those memoirs? The memoirs were the raw material for the accusation. There was no room, no house, no pre-party, no afterparty.
I am glad you are certain because I wasn’t there. Her story certainly doesn’t meet any conceivable burden of proof and maybe she totally invented the whole thing out of whole cloth starting apparently several years ago (I think it is documented that she has been telling this story since at least 2012 and according to her husband a few years earlier). But I think if you turn it around and ask, can you state beyond a reasonable doubt that she was never alone in a room with K and Judge, I can’t be that certain. I really don’t care whether she was or wasn’t, but I’m not certain. If she was being tried for perjury, I don’t think I could convict, first of all because she may really believe her testimony (even if false) because she is a nutjob and second because there is some small chance that some parts of it, at least, are true.
I really don’t believe that this was a total Jackie Coakley style intentionally plotted hoax by BF. She doesn’t seem to be a Jackie style sociopath, which is what you need to be to pull off a Jackie style fraud. Sociopaths/conmen possess a sort of creepy unnatural smoothness and confidence (often mistaken for the real thing – in fact that’s one way to spot a sociopath – normal humans are filled with doubts and fears but sociopaths have none) which BF does not have (despite saying that she is 100% certain). You can hear the difference if you listen to the Jackie- Erdely tapes.
No, she's been telling A story since 2012. The counselor's notes, (which no one has seen but her lawyers and a reporter) refer to an assault by '4 boys' in her 'late teens', no names. That displaces the time frame by about 3 years. Kavanaugh was a resident of Connecticut 60-100% of the time after August of 1983.
Maybe, or it could refer to drei Fuß (three feet), referring to a 3 legged stool. What’s your point?
But in America 2018, this was not going to fly. There is no joking in Feminism - they are completely humorless. His only choice was to totally deny the whole thing - any admission that he was even in the same room with her would have been the end. So to my mind, he would be fully justified in lying and secure in the knowledge that there is no one (Judge having also denied it) who could prove otherwise. Just like it's never wrong to punch a Nazi, there is no dishonor in lying to totalitarians. If K is lying, I admire him all the more for it.
Mark Judge is the weak link in the chain here. He is a weak man, an addict. K and the committee have done the right thing by keeping him away from the FBI and from testifying on TV. Aside from stalling, he is why the dems keep asking for an FBI investigation. He is STILL the one who could torpedo this whole thing if he someday "remembers" what happened in that room.
He did not make the impression of a man lying for the greater good.
Besides, exactly for cases such as this, I think, Kant forbade it to lie even for the greater good.
Besides, the judge, a churchgoing catholic, swore an oath before God. You want a SCJ be able to do that, perjuring himself before God, as a hypocrite of the highest degree?
And surely, it is almost always wrong to punch a Nazi – most Nazis are punched, when they’re punched, without justification.
1. Again, no one in her family was enrolled in school with anyone in his family.
2. No indication his mother ever crossed paths professionally with her father or would have. He was a BigLaw litigator, she was a local prosecutor.
3. The two families lived 8 miles apart in a county which had 500,000 people living in suburban tract development at the time.
4. She named three other people as being present. All three denied knowing anything of any such incident and her chum Leland adds that she did not and does not know Brett Kavanaugh.
5. Details about Mark Judge are published information. See his 1997 memoir and his 2006 memoir. Kavanaugh makes a cameo appearance in Judge's 1997 memoir.
6. No one has produced a document which establishes she was acquainted with Kavanaugh or Judge, or any testimony from anyone that she was acquainted with them. The one person who identifies herself as having been a mutual acquaintance of the two said the two were not in intersecting social circles. Blasey identifies Christopher Garrett as a mutual acquaintance. He to date has said nothing.
7. Her story doesn't cohere well, she offers no identifying contextual details (no date, no address), her account to the marriage counselor and her letter to Eshoo identify different time frames (1982 v. 1985), &c.
8. The statement of support from her family is conspicuously missing some signatures.
This should give you at least a foggy idea that the woman is a producer of FanFiction.
Also note that Jackie, unlike BF, was always careful never to give sworn statements (or even talk to the cops) to insulate herself from perjury charges.
If they collar her on perjury charges, it will be in re her lying on procedural rubrics (fear of flying, &c). Quite an evidentiary challenge to prove she's lying about the incident. Since the Attorney-General seems to have about as much control over the Justice Department's internal operations as Joe the Plumber, the initiative for prosecuting her would have to be taken by the U.S. Attorney's office in DC (perhaps requiring a citation from the committee first). I bet the career attorneys in that office are just rarin' to go.
I really don't believe that this was a total Jackie Coakley style intentionally plotted hoax by BF. She doesn't seem to be a Jackie style sociopath, which is what you need to be to pull off a Jackie style fraud. Sociopaths/conmen possess a sort of creepy unnatural smoothness and confidence (often mistaken for the real thing - in fact that's one way to spot a sociopath - normal humans are filled with doubts and fears but sociopaths have none) which BF does not have (despite saying that she is 100% certain). You can hear the difference if you listen to the Jackie- Erdely tapes.
I think it is documented that she has been telling this story since at least 2012 and according to her husband a few years earlier).
No, she’s been telling A story since 2012. The counselor’s notes, (which no one has seen but her lawyers and a reporter) refer to an assault by ‘4 boys’ in her ‘late teens’, no names. That displaces the time frame by about 3 years. Kavanaugh was a resident of Connecticut 60-100% of the time after August of 1983.
My guess is that she went to some kind of party in that period and 2 boys (who may or may not have been K &J - more likely not) were clowning around and groped her in some fashion (which was nothing like the tale of attempted rape and near suffocation that she blew it up into in her mind over the decades). In other words that her story had some core of truth but over the course of 30 years the facts "improved" in the retelling in various ways, just like the fish keeps getting bigger and bigger when men tell their fish that got away stories, until they have Moby Dick himself on the line, which is not to say that they never even went fishing. This may not have even been an intentional or conscious process.
He probably couldn’t get into the goy golf club and it scarred his hippothalamus. Or something.
I remember in third grade I accidentally kicked a girl’s dress up a bit on the play ground and I got in trouble for it. No SCOTUS for me.
Blasey and her lawyers have been gaming this for weeks. Step one was to drop the stink bomb. When that had an insufficient effect, she scrubbed her social media and either her lawyers or Feinstein / Eshoo leaked her name. Then she and her lawyers went through a silly fan dance to stall committee proceedings. I was a surprise when she showed.
If they collar her on perjury charges, it will be in re her lying on procedural rubrics (fear of flying, &c). Quite an evidentiary challenge to prove she’s lying about the incident. Since the Attorney-General seems to have about as much control over the Justice Department’s internal operations as Joe the Plumber, the initiative for prosecuting her would have to be taken by the U.S. Attorney’s office in DC (perhaps requiring a citation from the committee first). I bet the career attorneys in that office are just rarin’ to go.
No, she's been telling A story since 2012. The counselor's notes, (which no one has seen but her lawyers and a reporter) refer to an assault by '4 boys' in her 'late teens', no names. That displaces the time frame by about 3 years. Kavanaugh was a resident of Connecticut 60-100% of the time after August of 1983.
I don’t care enough to look up all of the allegations, but IIRC she has allegedly been mentioning K specifically to some people since at least 2012. Now this is 30 years after the incident (if any) and at a time when K was already being mentioned for the S. Ct. but it’s not (as is the case with for example Avenatti’s client) as if she mentioned this for the 1st time when K’s nomination was announced. Now maybe she is some kind of master conspirator and has been plotting this for years, but I don’t get that feeling.
My guess is that she went to some kind of party in that period and 2 boys (who may or may not have been K &J – more likely not) were clowning around and groped her in some fashion (which was nothing like the tale of attempted rape and near suffocation that she blew it up into in her mind over the decades). In other words that her story had some core of truth but over the course of 30 years the facts “improved” in the retelling in various ways, just like the fish keeps getting bigger and bigger when men tell their fish that got away stories, until they have Moby Dick himself on the line, which is not to say that they never even went fishing. This may not have even been an intentional or conscious process.
Again, the counselor's notes do not say that. They differ from later accounts in consequential details.
My guess is that she went to some kind of party
First you say you can't know anything, then you let your imagination run wild in regard to her history and Mark Judge's history.
(My imagination tells me that this was cock-and-bull fed to the counselor in an effort to manipulate her husband, later repurposed. Problem: she cannot recall how she told it the first time).
If they collar her on perjury charges, it will be in re her lying on procedural rubrics (fear of flying, &c). Quite an evidentiary challenge to prove she's lying about the incident. Since the Attorney-General seems to have about as much control over the Justice Department's internal operations as Joe the Plumber, the initiative for prosecuting her would have to be taken by the U.S. Attorney's office in DC (perhaps requiring a citation from the committee first). I bet the career attorneys in that office are just rarin' to go.
Unless there is some smoking gun revelation that she cooked up this story for political purposes, I put the odds of her prosecution for perjury between slim and none. Some commentators were saying this morning that she should be the one nominated for the S. Ct.!
I’m kind of the anti-Rod. I was a runt like Rod, but I lifted weights and played football and rugby like I wasn’t. This was at the urging of my father, a jock who was kind of perplexed to see that he’d sired a bookish son.
I paid the price, getting tossed around a lot and having to navigate physically charged situations against stronger, bigger peers. But by the time I was 17 and starting to fill out I could hang with most people. Then I put on a lot of lean body mass through my 20’s. There are definite endocrinological benefits to weightlifting.
I’ve been reading Megan McCardle’s and Ross Douthat’s stuff this week and they clearly never got outside their nerd bubble. Now they’re adults who are terrified by political reality and the human condition.
Lots of pundits, academics, and public and private bureaucrats are like this. To his credit, Rod seems less nebbish than most.
What are you talking about? He's a miserable head case and doesn't conceal it.
What else has Trier produced?
I paid the price, getting tossed around a lot and having to navigate physically charged situations against stronger, bigger peers. But by the time I was 17 and starting to fill out I could hang with most people. Then I put on a lot of lean body mass through my 20's. There are definite endocrinological benefits to weightlifting.
I've been reading Megan McCardle's and Ross Douthat's stuff this week and they clearly never got outside their nerd bubble. Now they're adults who are terrified by political reality and the human condition.
Lots of pundits, academics, and public and private bureaucrats are like this. To his credit, Rod seems less nebbish than most.
I never can keep Rod Dreher and Ross Douthat straight.
Dreher lives in Baton Rouge. He's the issue of the J-school at LSU. His mundane writing tends to be more explicitly religious than Douthat's. He has a crummy gig at The American Conservative. In that small pond, he's the one who has actual readers. He's a Louisiana native and returned there in 2011 after a career crash. His wife's from Dallas. He's just past 50 and she's 5-10 years younger. He's a lapsed Catholic, having decamped to Orthodoxy in 2006. Dreher's other-directed, verbose, emotional, and has never gotten over being knocked around in junior high school. He's never NOT striking poses, and there are accounts that this was true when he was 20. He also has a history of psychotropic use, among other things.
I find Douthat sad and irritating on occasion, but he's on the level. Dreher's all about Dreher.
The demo-craps are the hell-raisers (in the decorous U.S. Senate, at least)
But BK is still . . . a beer drinker!
Any excuse to link to ZZ Top, circa 1980, woo hoo!!
This is probably BK's theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MEcSM1jfXg
His patience had its limits.
My guess is that she went to some kind of party in that period and 2 boys (who may or may not have been K &J - more likely not) were clowning around and groped her in some fashion (which was nothing like the tale of attempted rape and near suffocation that she blew it up into in her mind over the decades). In other words that her story had some core of truth but over the course of 30 years the facts "improved" in the retelling in various ways, just like the fish keeps getting bigger and bigger when men tell their fish that got away stories, until they have Moby Dick himself on the line, which is not to say that they never even went fishing. This may not have even been an intentional or conscious process.
I don’t care enough to look up all of the allegations, but IIRC she has allegedly been mentioning K specifically to some people since at least 2012.
Again, the counselor’s notes do not say that. They differ from later accounts in consequential details.
My guess is that she went to some kind of party
First you say you can’t know anything, then you let your imagination run wild in regard to her history and Mark Judge’s history.
(My imagination tells me that this was cock-and-bull fed to the counselor in an effort to manipulate her husband, later repurposed. Problem: she cannot recall how she told it the first time).
It’s possible, but not obvious. In common usage by members of his class white means non-deracinated. Unlike himself, which goes without saying.
Douthat lives in Connecticut and he and his wife are Connecticut born and bred. They’re both approaching 40. They are Ivy League alumni and have two of the residue of satisfactory jobs in journalism, he at The Times, she at Smithsonian. He writes drab and deliberative columns. He’s a roughly orthodox Catholic. He’s permeable, but inner directed in a way Dreher is not. He’s significantly smarter than Dreher.
Dreher lives in Baton Rouge. He’s the issue of the J-school at LSU. His mundane writing tends to be more explicitly religious than Douthat’s. He has a crummy gig at The American Conservative. In that small pond, he’s the one who has actual readers. He’s a Louisiana native and returned there in 2011 after a career crash. His wife’s from Dallas. He’s just past 50 and she’s 5-10 years younger. He’s a lapsed Catholic, having decamped to Orthodoxy in 2006. Dreher’s other-directed, verbose, emotional, and has never gotten over being knocked around in junior high school. He’s never NOT striking poses, and there are accounts that this was true when he was 20. He also has a history of psychotropic use, among other things.
I find Douthat sad and irritating on occasion, but he’s on the level. Dreher’s all about Dreher.
I paid the price, getting tossed around a lot and having to navigate physically charged situations against stronger, bigger peers. But by the time I was 17 and starting to fill out I could hang with most people. Then I put on a lot of lean body mass through my 20's. There are definite endocrinological benefits to weightlifting.
I've been reading Megan McCardle's and Ross Douthat's stuff this week and they clearly never got outside their nerd bubble. Now they're adults who are terrified by political reality and the human condition.
Lots of pundits, academics, and public and private bureaucrats are like this. To his credit, Rod seems less nebbish than most.
To his credit, Rod seems less nebbish than most.
What are you talking about? He’s a miserable head case and doesn’t conceal it.
https://handleshaus.wordpress.com/2018/09/10/excerpts-and-discussion-of-rod-drehers-the-benedict-option/
I'm told Dreher is pretty sane on Kavanaugh. Douthat seems paralyzed by it though, going over and over things like he's Hercule Poirot (and I can easily picture Douthat fancying himself as Hercule Poirot). McCardle is on Twitter practically in tears over the Right acting like a political movement, like she just found out this isn't a video game.
Again, the counselor's notes do not say that. They differ from later accounts in consequential details.
My guess is that she went to some kind of party
First you say you can't know anything, then you let your imagination run wild in regard to her history and Mark Judge's history.
(My imagination tells me that this was cock-and-bull fed to the counselor in an effort to manipulate her husband, later repurposed. Problem: she cannot recall how she told it the first time).
Trump himself now says that BF seems credible. Heckuva job, Rachie, heckuva job!
“Ok Ivanka darling”
Besides, exactly for cases such as this, I think, Kant forbade it to lie even for the greater good.
Besides, the judge, a churchgoing catholic, swore an oath before God. You want a SCJ be able to do that, perjuring himself before God, as a hypocrite of the highest degree?
And surely, it is almost always wrong to punch a Nazi - most Nazis are punched, when they're punched, without justification.
A hypocrite of the highest degree in high office? I am shocked, I tell you shocked!
“Credible” means she didn’t say something provably false. (She actually did, but never mind).
What are you talking about? He's a miserable head case and doesn't conceal it.
Rod has issues, no question. But I remember Roissy tagged him at one point and Dreher actually responded and did pretty well for himself. Handle reviewed his Benedict Option and gave it a thumbs-up, on balance.
https://handleshaus.wordpress.com/2018/09/10/excerpts-and-discussion-of-rod-drehers-the-benedict-option/
I’m told Dreher is pretty sane on Kavanaugh. Douthat seems paralyzed by it though, going over and over things like he’s Hercule Poirot (and I can easily picture Douthat fancying himself as Hercule Poirot). McCardle is on Twitter practically in tears over the Right acting like a political movement, like she just found out this isn’t a video game.
But BK is still . . . a beer drinker!
Any excuse to link to ZZ Top, circa 1980, woo hoo!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruT5nmwhiic
Saw ZZ Top a few years ago. Couldn’t hear out of my left ear for three days afterwards. Great show.
This is probably BK’s theme song:
https://handleshaus.wordpress.com/2018/09/10/excerpts-and-discussion-of-rod-drehers-the-benedict-option/
I'm told Dreher is pretty sane on Kavanaugh. Douthat seems paralyzed by it though, going over and over things like he's Hercule Poirot (and I can easily picture Douthat fancying himself as Hercule Poirot). McCardle is on Twitter practically in tears over the Right acting like a political movement, like she just found out this isn't a video game.
Jennifer Rubin has disgraced herself more than usual. I used to think she and McCardle has some sensible things to say, but no more.
Natalie Portman and Itzhak Perlman, although the latter predates Israel per se.
https://handleshaus.wordpress.com/2018/09/10/excerpts-and-discussion-of-rod-drehers-the-benedict-option/
I'm told Dreher is pretty sane on Kavanaugh. Douthat seems paralyzed by it though, going over and over things like he's Hercule Poirot (and I can easily picture Douthat fancying himself as Hercule Poirot). McCardle is on Twitter practically in tears over the Right acting like a political movement, like she just found out this isn't a video game.
Aye, Douthat’s been a a man without a chest on this issue. Can’t be bothered to get through the paywall to read McArdle. She was at one time an engaging honest broker. When she left The Atlantic she went to a venue that insisted her column be reformatted in ways that damaged it. You’re right. There’s a mess of stupidity on her Twitter feed.
“Daddy. Say something nice about Dr. Ford. Don’t want to look mean to fence sitting women voters.”
“Ok Ivanka darling”
Natalie Portman?
Kristol and Rubin are probably having some tribal insecurity. The Republican Party is exuding a more Tippecanoe-and-Tyler-too vibe these days than the Tijuana/Ellis Island kitsch of Bush and Obama.
Dreher lives in Baton Rouge. He's the issue of the J-school at LSU. His mundane writing tends to be more explicitly religious than Douthat's. He has a crummy gig at The American Conservative. In that small pond, he's the one who has actual readers. He's a Louisiana native and returned there in 2011 after a career crash. His wife's from Dallas. He's just past 50 and she's 5-10 years younger. He's a lapsed Catholic, having decamped to Orthodoxy in 2006. Dreher's other-directed, verbose, emotional, and has never gotten over being knocked around in junior high school. He's never NOT striking poses, and there are accounts that this was true when he was 20. He also has a history of psychotropic use, among other things.
I find Douthat sad and irritating on occasion, but he's on the level. Dreher's all about Dreher.
I already knew the details on Dreher. The thing is, it’s been so long since I’ve bothered to read either man, that when Steve quotes one (usually Douthat), a day or two later, I can’t remember which one it was. Their names are so similar, and they fit in the general category of quirk-cons.
But in America 2018, this was not going to fly. There is no joking in Feminism - they are completely humorless. His only choice was to totally deny the whole thing - any admission that he was even in the same room with her would have been the end. So to my mind, he would be fully justified in lying and secure in the knowledge that there is no one (Judge having also denied it) who could prove otherwise. Just like it's never wrong to punch a Nazi, there is no dishonor in lying to totalitarians. If K is lying, I admire him all the more for it.
Mark Judge is the weak link in the chain here. He is a weak man, an addict. K and the committee have done the right thing by keeping him away from the FBI and from testifying on TV. Aside from stalling, he is why the dems keep asking for an FBI investigation. He is STILL the one who could torpedo this whole thing if he someday "remembers" what happened in that room.
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How is he a quarter Jewish? His father is Richard Dreyfuss, whose parents were both Jewish. Or did you read his Wikipedia entry and decide that just because his mother’s last name is Robbins, she must not have been Jewish? Are people still so daft? His mother (Richard’s) was definitely Jewish and the granddaughter of Russian Jews on both sides.
Yes I agree it is possible but not obvious. It seems a reasonable explanation but who really knows what goes on inside others’ minds.
That was God’s practical joke on Abraham, but then He showed him the ram in the bush and they all had a good laugh.
One’s dull and temporizing, the other’s histrionic.
My guess is that she went to some kind of party in that period and 2 boys (who may or may not have been K &J - more likely not) were clowning around and groped her in some fashion (which was nothing like the tale of attempted rape and near suffocation that she blew it up into in her mind over the decades). In other words that her story had some core of truth but over the course of 30 years the facts "improved" in the retelling in various ways, just like the fish keeps getting bigger and bigger when men tell their fish that got away stories, until they have Moby Dick himself on the line, which is not to say that they never even went fishing. This may not have even been an intentional or conscious process.
The paper trail on her mentioning it in 2012 is in doubt. Probably Fake News.
But in America 2018, this was not going to fly. There is no joking in Feminism - they are completely humorless. His only choice was to totally deny the whole thing - any admission that he was even in the same room with her would have been the end. So to my mind, he would be fully justified in lying and secure in the knowledge that there is no one (Judge having also denied it) who could prove otherwise. Just like it's never wrong to punch a Nazi, there is no dishonor in lying to totalitarians. If K is lying, I admire him all the more for it.
Mark Judge is the weak link in the chain here. He is a weak man, an addict. K and the committee have done the right thing by keeping him away from the FBI and from testifying on TV. Aside from stalling, he is why the dems keep asking for an FBI investigation. He is STILL the one who could torpedo this whole thing if he someday "remembers" what happened in that room.
“…even if true, it sounds like teenage horseplay to me at worst.”
Which Ford took full part in.
Academy Award winning actress for Black Swan. Also starred in the Star Wars prequel movies.