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@DrPatSoonShiong, owner of the Los Angeles Times, is a little less on the nose with his anti-white Wokeist propaganda than is the Chinese Communist Party, but they are all reading from roughly the same page.

 
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  1. El Dato says:

    Well, there’s your payback for supporting Hongkong Wong.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  2. Anon[112] • Disclaimer says:

    I think they just see this sort of thing as a way to attack the US, and don’t really internalize it.

  3. Polynikes says:
    @Anon

    I think that’s right. They’re doing what the Democrats spent 4 years claiming Russia was doing. Only this time the Left in America is unwittingly assisting Chinese efforts. In fact, I don’t think China has to do much at all except watch.

  4. Jake says:

    China could use about 30 million Numinous Negroes, all of whom formerly were resident in the USA.

    • Replies: @polistra
    , @Elmer T. Jones
  5. Anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Hey, if you can’t trust the Chinese Communist Party, who can you trust?

    They’re, like, basically honorary Americans who just haven’t bothered to move here yet.

  6. Statistics show, time and again, that some are disproportionately prejudiced against in the U.S.

    They’re just uighurgitating the Party Line.

    Ours.

    Of course, they’re quite woke themselves:

  7. “… some are disproportionally prejudiced against in the US.”

    That’s bad English. It’s just like with the assembly instructions for any piece of Cheap China-made Crap. It’s one thing to make cheap crap, but can’t you hire an American translator for 20 bucks to get the instructions right?

    (Maybe Godfree Roberts finally got a real job?)

    • LOL: Gordo
  8. newrouter says:

    >Statistics show, time and again, that some are disproportionately prejudiced against in the U.S.<

    nah statistics are numbers you can use to find useful information or obscure that information. What’s up with the middle they with the gun?

  9. This confused me because Chinese don’t like blacks at all. Does the Mandarin (or whatever it’s called) version of this account have a similar tweet up?

  10. Anonymous[216] • Disclaimer says:

    The US has been promoting minoritarianism, secessionism, separatism, etc. against China and its Han majority since the PRC’s inception. It’s basic reciprocity. It also makes basic strategic sense for China as a way to weaken an adversary state like the US. Which is why the US itself has been doing it and continues to do it against China and others.

    • Replies: @Matt Buckalew
    , @LondonBob
  11. There was enormous international pressure during the 1950s and 1960s around the status of blacks, both from the soviet union, allies, and the non aligned countries. Presumably the allies and non aligned countries were genuine (although confused) and the soviet union was partially genuine and partially just looking for any criticism that would get traction. And then did the Soviet Union also understand that the long term consequences of the civil rights movement would destroy the US (at least as it existed then)?

    For the Chinese, I have a hard time believing that they are at all genuine and think that they’re making criticisms that they know other people will be receptive to even if they don’t believe any of it. But I also think they’re 100% aware of the existential threat this all poses not just to the US but the entire west, and anglosphere in particular. Aren’t they supposedly joking in Beijing about it’s the US that has the cultural revolution now?

  12. songbird says:

    I’ve been worried by the anti-racist rhetoric entering into Chinese movies lately, like in the film Wolf Warrior 2 (2017).

    It’s hard to understand. One way to look at it is that it is somehow for the consumption of Africans, so that China can do business in Africa, while avoiding the standard recriminations. But, in general, Chinese movies don’t have much of an export market – especially in Africa. Of course, that doesn’t mean that Africans aren’t watching them somehow, but I wonder if it is really for domestic consumption – to prime the Chinese for some purpose. It is so heavy-handed that it seems it could only come from a regime directive.

    A while back I heard that there was some official government paper purposefully leaked to test the waters regarding mass migration into China, but that there was a large public outcry, which halted the idea. I don’t know if the whole thing was just a rumor, or if it was substantiated in some way.

    • Thanks: Neoconned
    • Replies: @Whiskey
    , @Anon
    , @Rob
    , @donut
  13. We can send them some.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
  14. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:

    Learn to code speak Mandarin.

  15. I’ve been worried by the anti-racist rhetoric entering into Chinese movies lately, like in the film Wolf Warrior 2 (2017).

    It’s hard to understand.

    I wonder if westernized (increasingly woke) over seas Chinese are the target? They want them to retain cultural and emotional ties to China and know that racism is a galvanizing issue that could drive a wedge between them and the mother country. It’s similar to Steve’s theory that Israeli’s make a big show out of being pro ethiopian jew in order to appeal to the sensibilities of Jews in other countries.

    A while back I heard that there was some official government paper purposefully leaked to test the waters regarding mass migration into China, but that there was a large public outcry, which halted the idea. I don’t know if the whole thing was just a rumor, or if it was substantiated in some way.

    Doesn’t the chinese government unambiguously want fewer people and ethnic han dominance? Maybe they want a small number of highly skilled immigrants, but if they wanted more people or more ethnic diversity it seems like they would be doing a bunch of stuff differently.

  16. Whiskey says: • Website
    @songbird

    Thats ultra dangerous as rivals to Xi can seize anti racist morality and accuse him of racism against Uighurs and Tibetans. Trumping sorry Xi China nationalism with a higher morality. Anti Racism.

    Indeed thats likely the play.

    • Agree: Neoconned
  17. Anon[316] • Disclaimer says:

    Africans in China are not being treated that well since coronavirus, and before.

    ‘Textbook’ Discrimination: Human Rights Report Accuses China Of Mistreating Africans

    https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/06/851310009/textbook-discrimination-human-rights-report-accuses-china-of-mistreating-african

    Apparently there are “African communities” in China. It disappoints me that such would have been allowed to form in the first place. Short-term visas for students, business, etc., fine. Then ship them back.

    Pre-cororna:

    China has an irrational fear of a “black invasion” bringing drugs, crime, and interracial marriage

    https://qz.com/945053/china-has-an-irrational-fear-of-a-black-invasion-bringing-drugs-crime-and-interracial-marriage/

    I don’t really want to judge people by their physiognamy and fashion taste … actually, hey, why not … these Africans look like bad news:

  18. Anon[112] • Disclaimer says:
    @songbird

    Out of curiosity, do you mean more anti-white, or anti-Chinese?

    Anti-Chinese would be a big shift. Anti-white wouldn’t surprise me much.

    • Replies: @songbird
  19. The Chinese Communists sound like a group of Really Smart people to me. They’ve put their entire society under the command of wise Engineer-Kings.

    I betcha they did awful good on standardized tests.

    Lionoftheblogosphere must be jealous. I mean, racial loyalty means nothing right? Let’s get rid of segregation (uggg so backward, only those proles wanted it).

    The Real Smart people who done good on the SAT can get a special set aside. They can watch their race be destroyed from the comfort of CalTech or some gated community.

    • Replies: @Not Only Wrathful
  20. Kronos says:
    @Anon

    The Soviets repeatedly thumped on the US mistreatment of blacks throughout the Soviet Union’s existence. Especially after WW2 to garner favor amongst the Third World and stoke civil unrest in the US. Of course, they never internalized their own medicine either.

  21. Peterike says:

    What if the “Camp of the Saints” turned out to be a flotilla of American blacks arriving in China?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Kronos
  22. There have been a lot of articles recently in Global Times claiming that Western journalists are reporting unfairly on how the Uighurs are treated in China.

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1192560.shtml

    Upon reading the news the US Congress passed the Uyghur Human Rights Policy Act of 2020 to sanction China over Xinjiang affairs, Jerry Grey looked online to see how many members of Congress have been to China’s Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region.

    “The answer – Zero. EU tried – US objected; UN tried – US objected,” he tweeted, asking, “Why [the US] legislate on something with no knowledge?”

    Now today China is reporting a case of bubonic plague identified.

    Trump, being a germophobe, will be glad that if he loses his job, at least he will have Medicare, but hopefully the Kushners will be able to afford to build on a grampy apartment for him to live out his golden years on house arrest while his tax affairs work their way through the courts.

  23. @Anon

    On the other hand, there is this. There are number of other videos, too, with Africans and blacks attesting to how they find Asia to be congenial.

    So, who knows?

  24. @Anon

    I think they just see this sort of thing as a way to attack the US, and don’t really internalize it.

    I keep saying, it’s the DNC-CCP.

    What are real Americans going to do about them?

  25. @Kronos

    The USSR went to considerable lengths to educate African students, and try and sponsor immigration of blacks. It looks like about 50,000 actually moved there and their (mostly mixed) descendants are, of course, Russian nations. So, not just Pushkin.

    For what it’s worth:

    http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?t=37942

    https://www.calvertjournal.com/features/show/5388/red-africa-afrorussians-black-ussr-portraits-generation-identity

  26. HA says:
    @njguy73

    “The Soviets did the same thing.”

    Except that Putin would prefer Trump this time around, whereas the Chinese reportedly want Biden to win. So the standard Russian whataboutism stick is now being brandished by the Chinese.

    But as we all know by now, foreign propaganda/influence is only ever a big deal if it benefits the Republicans.

  27. @PiltdownMan

    The soviets identified very strongly as a multi racial and multi ethnic society, something that, despite Putin’s white nationalist support from abroad, continues to this day.

    • Replies: @Muggles
  28. Anon[385] • Disclaimer says:

    Starting NGOs to “help transform” other nations that your country competes with is just 4th Generation Warfare right?

    We support Hong Kong, the Uyghurs, Tibet, the Muslims, Christians, and gays in China through NGOs and charities.
    The Chinese will probably begin to support the blacks, latins, LGBT , the Muslims, antifa, thw immigrant-booster groups, and the radical environmentalists here. Anything to undermine our majority.

    I never will forget Gordon Liddy 25 years ago informing me that British Petroleum was a huge funder of various anti-Alaskan-pipeline/ANWR oil exploration environmemtal groups here. By giving to a charity, they fought against American energy independence b

  29. @PiltdownMan

    “Nationals”, not “nations.”

  30. disproportionately prejudiced

    Ethnically displacing and effectively exterminating non-Han peoples = proportionate prejudice.

    Whites arresting non-whites for their crimes = disproportionate prejudice.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
  31. Spartan says:

    The ghetto is full of brothers in sandals. Full! The hoodie was a nice touch, but the artist gets really lazy at the end. Maybe he can’t draw Jordans?

    Also, it’s nice that even the CCP implicitly admits that there’s a proportionate level of prejudice. It’s a difference of degree, you understand.

  32. bucky says:

    I’m actually surprised that Russia doesn’t exploit BLM more. Imagine Putin saying in his heavily Russian accented English: “Black Lives Matter.”

    That would set off so much infighting and doubt in the United States.

    • LOL: Yevardian
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  33. @Anon

    The Chicoms may be pushing Wokeness for Thee but they are being real careful about not getting high on their own supply. If anything, as China rises in global power, they are becoming even more based:

    The paper, an examination of changing gender role attitudes in Chinese society, draws on data from the 2000 and 2010 Chinese Women’s Social Status surveys. I found that the number of respondents who said they agreed with the statement, “A man’s place is in society, while a woman’s is in the home,” had risen over that period, from 47.5% in 2000 to almost 58% in 2010. Likewise, the number of people who agreed that women “are better off marrying rich than working hard” rose from 33.7% to over 44%. In short, rather than an increase in gender equality, Chinese people had become more accepting of patriarchal gender norms.

    Although there’s a lack of recent data — the next CWSS survey won’t be out until 2022 at the earliest — the trends academics were picking up on back then have become harder to ignore. From the rise of the moralizing “Three Outlooks Party” and nationalist “little pinks,” to the embrace of traditional norms like nanzhu nücong — “men dominate and women submit” — or nanzhuwai, nüzhunei — “men rule without and women rule within” — the speed with which conservative values have reemerged among young women has been startling.

    https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1006189/why-progress-doesnt-guarantee-the-end-of-patriarchy

    • Thanks: bomag
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  34. Bill P says:

    I lived in a sort of foreign ghetto in outer Beijing (near Sihuanlu) for a while. It was mostly Chinese, but for some reason foreigners were allowed to live there without paying the exorbitant rents “experts” had to pay. Naturally, there were a number of Africans there.

    Sure enough, over time, little dusky, curly-haired half-African children appeared, running here and there amongst the chickens foraging in the hemp groves in summertime.

    Chinese do not have the same concept of race as Americans. Or, maybe they have a concept more similar to the emergent American elite. The peasants are essentially slaves. They may theoretically be Han Chinese, but this idea that there’s racial solidarity among Chinese is a fiction. It is honored more in the breach.

    If it served the Chinese elite, they’d have no problem importing millions of Africans into China. The only reason they do not is that Africans are too expensive and inefficient. Chinese peasants are cheap, they are numerous, they can turn a profit, and they are easy to exploit. Ultimately, democrats are going to rely on the same calculus. African Americans may be useful for intimidating opponents, but when the democrats are in charge they’ll want to replace them with a reliably profitable underclass. This is going to be a very complicated trick to pull off. I suppose those of us in blue states will all have the opportunity to observe their efforts.

  35. Off topic: Crossroads upper schoolers inspired by An Evening with Angela Davis

    https://www.xrds.org/news?pk=1222762&fromId=258535

  36. polistra says:
    @Jake

    We should send them 200 million, so they have the same proportion as we do. That’ll set them straight. What’s that ? We don’t have that many?

    Well, near as I can tell from TV we have at least that many. Additionally, I know of a continent fairly teeming with them, and for which 200 million will be the equivalent of a rounding error before the century’s out.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  37. polistra says:
    @Anonymous

    Fascinating chart; I wonder how accurate. I’d have thought that the Roman Empire would have counted for much more in the first two or three centuries. Is that included in the Italy category? Still doesn’t seem like much.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Wency
  38. polistra says:
    @Anon

    Africans in China are not being treated that well

    Asians in America don’t like blacks one bit, and the feeling is mutual. One problem with the Asians is that they don’t kowtow as readily as whites to the wokeist philosophy of racial inferiority. Inferiority of everyone to the Ruling Tribe and their violent henchmen.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  39. Not Raul says:

    For a second, I thought that it said @DrPoonShlong

  40. I have only this to say to China: may you live in diverse times.

  41. Anon[194] • Disclaimer says:
    @Torn and Frayed

    China is declining in global power. You can become as “based” as you want but all that matters is action, not “views” which are just a fashion statement. China’s fertility rate is cuck tier.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  42. rmyk says:

    Soon-Shiong, a member of the Hakka ethnicity who was forced out of China by the Communist Party and was born in South Africa, likely has little affection for the contemporary Chinese government. I would guess that he resisted the woke takeover of his media property. OTOH, he has a $10b business empire, so the fate of a failing media enterprise worth roughly ~$100 million means little to his grand scheme.

    But let’s be clear: Soon-Shiong is extraordinarily corrupt. His own brother sued him for fraud, twice, and he’s spent the majority of his career in court for one thing or another.

    He’s kind of like a Woke Trump.

  43. @Anon

    I think they just see this sort of thing as a way to attack the US, and don’t really internalize it.

    Much like Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

    • LOL: bomag
  44. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    US: Save the Uighurs.

    China: Save the…

  45. @Anon

    I think they just see this sort of thing as a way to attack the US, and don’t really internalize it.

    Agree. Frankly, i don’t find this annoying. They are an enemy civilization. They want to beat my civilization and so toss this out there … why not? That it’s utter nonsense? Commies lie like people breathe. It’s who they are.

    Our problem is not getting risible commie nonsense from the outside.

    Our problem is that we have an elite chock-full of minoritarian traitors propagandizing these minoritarian lies from the inside.

    • Agree: Redman
    • Replies: @nebulafox
  46. Korbashi says:

    I give the Chinese caricaturist credit for recognizing the diversity among American police. At least one of the three policemen in the cartoon is not white.

    One of the absurdities of the current moment is how no one in the US media acknowledges that American municipal police forces look nothing like Bull Connor’s police.

    To what extent, if any, the diversity of American police is tied to what seems like a decline in professionalism among police? How much training is put into crowd control, subduing suspects, etc. and how much is put into gender sensitivity etc? The more of the latter, the less of the former.

    This is a a question no one is asking. When the priority is what the force looks like and not how it does its job, there might be a price to pay.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  47. Rahan says:
    @njguy73

    The Soviets did the same thing.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes

    And in 2020 the Dems really went full throttle in internalizing this and making it the central pillar of their political morality.

  48. anonymous[224] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill P

    They may theoretically be Han Chinese, but this idea that there’s racial solidarity among Chinese is a fiction. It is honored more in the breach.

    This does not strike me as true. Cities in China have emerging mass middle classes and there is a lot of social mobility with rural poor becoming middle class.

  49. anonymous[103] • Disclaimer says:
    @Peterike

    There was the beginning of an African migration in the 2000s to Guangzhou (Canton). After immigration enforcement in the 2010s, the permanent African population stands at a few thousand guys who have their own businesses. Reportedly Nigerians committed disproportionate crime. The Nigerian neighborhood in Guangzhou has been shuttered. The other more Muslim African community remains and is the center of African life in Guangzhou. There are also lots of African university students scattered across China, outnumbering the combined number of African university students in the US and UK combined.

    • Thanks: HammerJack
    • Replies: @nebulafox
  50. Kronos says:
    @Peterike

    I think they learned a thing or two with the British. Those Opium Wars were valuable lessons within themselves.

  51. @Anonymous

    What are some of the actions- let’s start with Richard Nixon- did to promote any of those things?

  52. Dumbo says:

    Well, even the Nazis criticized “American racism against blacks”… You use whatever you got against your enemy.

    • Agree: Twinkie, neutral
    • Thanks: Bill Jones
    • LOL: Amerimutt Golems
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Ray Caruso
  53. Wilkey says:

    Totally OT, but it’s official:

    O’Connor was talking publicly about her regrets about the conservative turn the court began to take after her departure. O’Connor decided to leave the court when she was 75 because her husband was sick with Alzheimer’s. But soon after she left the bench, his illness progressed to the point that he could no longer recognize her. She [O’Connor] told her biographer, Evan Thomas, that retiring was “the biggest mistake, the dumbest thing I ever did.”

    “I think O’Connor’s departure served as something of a cautionary tale for Justice Ginsburg,” remembers David Newman, one of Ginsburg’s clerks in 2010-11 and now a lawyer at the firm Morrison & Foerster.

    Got that? One major reason Ginsburg may have decided not to retire while Democrats were in control is because O’Connor regretted retiring – not the only reason, but an important one. So a retired (quasi)-conservative justice managed to convince the great Notorious Saint RBG to hang on long enough…to die under Republican control.

    But there’s more hilarity to ensue:

    In an interview with Elle Magazine in the fall of 2014, Ginsburg said that “anybody who thinks that if I step down, Obama could appoint someone like me, they’re misguided.” No one as liberal as she was could get confirmed, she suggested.

    Got that? Ginsburg thought (in 2014-ish) that a Democratic Party that has most recently spent the last four months not-so-secretly encouraging its side to riot, loot and burn; than has yammered on endlessly about “white privilege,” abolishing ICE, and defunding the police; and that has, to take one example, managed to get Chesa Boudin, the son of two far left convicted murderers, elected DA in San Francisco, wouldn’t dare to appoint someone as far to the left as her…even after they had just managed to confirm Kagan and Sotomayor.

    One of the common complaints of the Left is that the Republican Party has spent he last 20 years moving far, far to the right. I’ve always thought they were just lying when they said that; that they never really realized that it was them that had been moving far to the left. But Ginsburg’s comments suggest she (and they) actually believe that nonsense; that they completely fail to realize how far left they have moved just in the short time since her confirmation in 1993.

    • Replies: @IHTG
  54. Ma Laoshi says:

    My experience may be of some relevance here: I teach on a Chinese campus with a lot of African students. And you know what? It works pretty well, simply since they’re pragmatic about it. I’m not involved first-hand, just handling my own courses, but “pragmatic” seems to consist of a number of small things–which however in combination mean that they do everything about the opposite from the US.

    (A) First of all, the question is of course which blacks (sorry Blacks; sorry and this time I mean it, I’ll stop this nonsense now): unless you’ve swallowed the intersectional Kool-Aid, each of us is foremost an individual. If you take the best students of the best African schools, then no it’s still not a Math Olympiad team, but that was never the point; there’s no reason the majority of them couldn’t manage a 4-year degree. (B) They get screened for Aids and TB. But so was I before I could work in China–nobody gets discriminated, it’s just a public-heath measure. (C) “a lot of African students” of course means ~two hundred in a university of 60,000, so everybody knows who’s the host and who’s the guest. (D) Forget about setting the campus on fire: if you’d yell BLM stuff and otherwise disrupt classes, it’s a quick trip back to Africa–and there goes your one chance at a solid education, and hopefully a better life. Again and again, the same rules apply to their own Chinese kids or indeed to me if I’d go on political rants, so no need for whining. (E) If an African kid is good at math, I’d guess somewhere along the way they’ll get counseled “How about accounting? Maybe engineering?” It so happens that I teach quantum physics, and in my own classes it’s all Chinese again. So what? Education is unequal; no African middle school can drill you in calculus etc the way it happens in China. You just try to make the most of everyone’s potential; there need be no resentment because standard tests were the same for everyone. The Chinese kids will likewise just have to live with some blacks smoking them at athletics; so be it, there’s no shame in training hard and excelling as a result.

    Yes, they are different. Safe bet they looove to dance; so what, every Chinese city has night clubs to cure that Saturday Night Fever. No Chinese is disturbed by this, because they weren’t raised on a dogma that “race does not exist”. Safe bet African boys love to screw Chinese girls–actually scratch that, everybody loves to screw Chinese girls so this is not a difference. Hey it’s not Mao’s time any more, dating is a normal part of Chinese campus life. It’s a conservative society, so keep private things private and the Man will mostly turn a blind eye (should things get serious, her father may be a tougher nut to crack). And again look at the numbers above, enough fish left in that pond for Chinese boys. Just please make sure she’s also into you, because if you’d get caught for rape–it’s a sight to behold what China does to criminals.

    Needless to say, China doesn’t rip off either these kids or their countries with six figures of student debt. A decade down the road, when a Chinese delegation visits Africa for a 5G rollout or a minerals contract, they can hope to find a partner to do business with–hell, who literally speaks their own language. The West portrays this in ominous terms as if soft-power imperialism should remain our prerogative. Sour grapes that China has joined the West’s own game, with better results and on a bigger scale.

    Bottom line, Xinhua was just having some transparent Schadenfreude as others also remarked. It’s not nice to say, but while China has some blacks, they’re not about to go woke since blacks are not the root cause of wokery. The point rather is that China has almost no jews–and none in power. And you bet they realize that I’m saying here, and intend to keep it that way.

    • Agree: Jonathan Mason
    • Thanks: clyde
    • Replies: @Redman
  55. Nor do Hispanics or Jews particularly enjoy the presence of blacks. But they’re happy to weaponize blacks against White males, just as White feminists have been happy to weaponize gays, trannies and immigrants and blacks against White males. But Hispanics, jews and feminists will be right there alongside White males for the South Africa-style slaughter they’re setting up when it begins in earnest. Look at feminists, caught in the trannie-trap, labeled as TERFs and attacked for defending their daughters in the locker rooms and Title9 scholarships. Look at the liberals, trapped in their blue cities by the monster they created. All the idiots that supported freaks against White males will fall first. We White males will be sitting on the sidelines enjoying their destruction long before the freaks dare make a run at us. I suspect the freaks will demure when they turn their attentions the White communities. They’ll be content with their conquest of the blue cities.

  56. @Anonymous

    Be careful reading that graph! The horizontal scale is logarithmic which is why it starts a year after Jesus was born. It has to start at a year 1 of some sort.

  57. @Anon

    It’s a very, very small number, though. The last I read about it, and saw for myself too, it was mostly just a concentration of 20,000 or so in Canton. That’s out of a city of 40,000,000 people (metro area). Would that our inner cities have as many as China – 1 in 2,000 people.

    In other areas of the country, other than in Shanghai, which just has lots of visiting foreigners, I rarely saw any black people, those racisss bastards.

    • Replies: @Anon
  58. Anonymous[686] • Disclaimer says:

    At the start of the pandemic there were widespread reports of the Chinese authorities heavily persecuting the African immigrants in Guangzhou because they believed them to be more likely to have the virus, some reports even said they were being killed if they couldn’t afford to get out, which may have been just anti-Chinese propaganda but who knows with China?

    The Chinese are total hypocrites to criticise race relations in the US when by all accounts the Chinese authorities relations with their own minority groups are not good and often very brutal.

  59. @Torn and Frayed

    That’s pretty refreshing to see, T&F. I can see that my definition of progress is the opposite of that of the sixthtone, just from looking at your URL itself. That’s a long time since the end of hardcore Communism for people’s attitudes to finally get back toward normal, after the matching Chairman Mao jackets for fashion (you could get it in blue, or you could get it in gray) and the matching rice bowl template hairstyles.

    What will it take to even start to reverse the evils of feminism here? From the looks of things, it’s getting even worse (not to mention the additional dimensions of the genderbender nonsense). Peak Stupidity is in the middle of fisking an article that displays all the stupidity of feminism in one place. See America’s Kung Flu recession, women hardest hit!”Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, and Part 4. We are barely 1/2 way through it – yes, it’s THAT stupid!

  60. IHTG says:
    @Wilkey

    Got that? Ginsburg thought (in 2014-ish) that a Democratic Party that has most recently spent the last four months not-so-secretly encouraging its side to riot, loot and burn; than has yammered on endlessly about “white privilege,” abolishing ICE, and defunding the police; and that has, to take one example, managed to get Chesa Boudin, the son of two far left convicted murderers, elected DA in San Francisco, wouldn’t dare to appoint someone as far to the left as her

    More likely she meant that a Republican filibuster would have prevented it.

  61. Anonymous[248] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    I think they just see this sort of thing as a way to attack the US, and don’t really internalize it.

    You are probably wrong. Ask yourself, have jews internalized a moral superiority when they attack Whites for “slavery” or “Jim Crow” or “systemic racism”?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @bomag
  62. Twinkie says:
    @njguy73

    They did a lot more than that – the Soviets actively aided black and “anti-racist” or anti-fascist movements in the West (along with anti-nuclear, pro-disarmament groups, etc.). They also infiltrated and hijacked such groups and set some up in the first place, all in an effort to destabilize Western countries.

  63. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dumbo

    The language on that poster is either Norwegian or Danish (not sure exactly which), but it’s not German so I doubt it’s a Nazi poster per se.

    The inclusion of the Star of David is interesting as well, so who ever made it was evidently an “anti-Semite” but also pro-black bizarrely. My thoughts are that it’s a modern poster intended to look old and probably made by some “white nationalist” type.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    , @Jack D
  64. Anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:

    The ability of the ANC terrorists to mount a bombing campaign and armed insurgency against the Apartheid government in South Africa was basically down to Soviet training, arms supplies and financial support.

    I find it bizarre and ironic how a lot of white South Africans see living in Russia as their potential saviour when Russia (admittedly as the Soviet Union) is 90% of the reason they’re in the position they are in today.

  65. @Jonathan Mason

    A couple days of tetracycline takes care of bubonic plague.

  66. @Anon

    China has an irrational fear of a “black invasion” bringing drugs, crime, and interracial marriage

    What about that fear would be irrational?

  67. Twinkie says:
    @Korbashi

    One of the absurdities of the current moment is how no one in the US media acknowledges that American municipal police forces look nothing like Bull Connor’s police.

    If a 100% black police force kills a black criminal, it’s still the fault of others (mostly whites), because of “systemic” racism.

    Blacks are never at fault, because “the system” is racist. It’s a recursive, self-validating concept that cannot be falsified and must be simply believed and obeyed.

  68. Doctor Patrick Soon-Shiong = Ah, so! Doctor not riking cops!

    • LOL: ben tillman
  69. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    True, it’s not that the Chinese don’t internalise it, it’s that they, like Jews and other non-whites, see “racism” as something only applicable to white people and in particular Western whites.

  70. China is correct, of course. The bias against Whites appalling.

  71. @Anon

    I think they just see this sort of thing as a way to attack the US, and don’t really internalize it.

    Schadenfreude given past humiliations like the wars over opium and the Boxer Rebellion.

    The CCP also needs Africa’s oil, gas, minerals and consumers. Chinese investments and contracts in the continent amounted to $299 billion between 2005 and 2018. Pretentious wokery makes perfect business sense for wily East Asians.

    Otherwise ordinary Wongs tend to be based. Prior to Tiananmen Square, there were riots in the same year over African male students dating Han women.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  72. @Polynikes

    Only this time the Left in America is unwittingly assisting Chinese efforts. In fact, I don’t think China has to do much at all except watch.

    Disagree.

    There are plenty of folks who are drawing a fat check from Xi and company to do China’s bidding in the US.

  73. @Kronos

    Third Reich also did this, at least in this poster.

  74. @The Wild Geese Howard

    There may be some groups here and there, but I highly doubt most American media channels and papers are bought by the Chinese.

    It is just an indictment of the current times that domestic liberal propaganda is completely in line with the propaganda of a competitor (and some may say *enemy*) nation.

  75. El Dato says:
    @polistra

    In “Industrial Society and Its Future” Ted Kaczynski describes “leftism” as a consequence of perceived lack of self-worth generated by 1) society frustrating the need for control, stability and security in one’s life and 2) “oversocialization”. i.e. having been told from childhood on what to do, feel and think and and what not to do, feel, and think.

    China certainly would be subject to a “leftism” phenomenon.

  76. @PiltdownMan

    Also, Anya Ulinich’s hilarious novel, Petropolis.

  77. nebulafox says:
    @AnotherDad

    I have worked with enough mainlanders to appreciate just how much contempt they privately tend to hold “baizuo” in, and Xinjiang displays how China deals with minorities they deem problematic. But then again, the Warsaw Pact tended to look at the campus kiddies and various minoritarian movements of the 1960s and 1970s as a joke, too. It did not stop them from funding them.

    Of course the CPC loves the effect these people have. That they might privately doubt the mental sanity or capabilities of your average Antifa or BLM member/sympathizer is irrelevant. You yourself would be stupid to not take advantage of such a gift.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  78. AndrewR says:

    This just proves that China and ZOG are conjoined at the hip. If they really wanted to sow discord in the US they would support the only true American dissidents: white nationalists

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Ray Caruso
  79. nebulafox says:
    @anonymous

    USSR used to have a lot of African students, too. PLU.

    • Replies: @clyde
  80. AndrewR says:
    @nebulafox

    What gift? The US elite class openly supports BLM. How does China supporting BLM “own the Americans” or whatever

  81. clyde says:
    @nebulafox

    USSR used to have a lot of African students, too. PLU.

    They went to Lumumba University in Moscow. When they blatantly dated too many Russian girls, riots would break out against the African students. I see these riots are down the internet memory hole.

  82. LondonBob says:
    @Anonymous

    The mystery is why the US is allowing and using minoritarianism, Trotskyite destabilisation on itself and other Western allies. As has been said they need to sit back and watch, George Soros is as capable as the Comintern was.

    “I will set Egyptians against Egyptians; Everyone will fight against his brother, And everyone against his neighbor, City against city, kingdom against kingdom.”

    • Replies: @anon
  83. Anon[218] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Depressing article, “The Third Worlding of America”,” laying out the elements of First and Third World countries, e.g. corruption, and how the U.S. has been slipping since the 1990s in the direction from the former to the latter.

    https://amgreatness.com/2020/09/27/the-third-worlding-of-america/

  84. @Jake

    An influx of only 500,000 would certainly change Portland’s boutique crusade for racial justice dynamic.

    • Replies: @Bill P
  85. anon[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @polistra

    Add Italy, France, Spain, GB and “ancient” and that’s about 25 percent.

  86. @bucky

    RT participates in it a bit.

  87. @Anon

    It really doesn’t matter to China since as a culture that believes that test taking defines humanity(or at least value as a human), they can internally test out anyone of lower IQ while still claiming color blindness.

    Its essentially self-consistent, as they don’t have differential impact as a concept. As spandrell noted, Western style HBD would be a rejection of fundamental Chinese culture where grinding is everything.

  88. bomag says:
    @Anonymous

    Most peoples come with moral superiority baked into their DNA. They may toss out “slavery” and “Jim Crow”, but they are not particularly against those things themselves.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  89. How is this different from the stories about millions of oppressed Uighur, substantiated by a set of selfies taken by a comedian?

    The official propaganda budget (AMG) of the US nears the billion in dollars. The “private” media is typically embedded with the state authorities and parrots the official line. If anything, I don’t see you or your readers questioning the idea that Chinese authorities are able to farm (feed and wash) millions of Uighur, let alone provide brainwashers to each of them. Most of them are terribly concerned with the origin of covid, as if it would make a difference for people outside China.

    So why wouldn’t Chinese authorities exploit what American mainstream media claims it’s the most important story of US genesis? Why wouldn’t Chinese (or Romanian, or US black) masses believe they have a moral superiority? They didn’t kill Emmett Til.

  90. AndrewR says:
    @Anon

    What? China is the most populated country on earth. They don’t need high fertility. If they need more people in 100 years for their global empire they can just inxrease birth rates again. It’s not a big deal.

    • Replies: @Anon
  91. Rob says:
    @songbird

    Peter Frost, am academic who blogs at Evo and Proud was saying several years ago that China was going to bring in a lot of African women to help alleviate the shortage of women and the shortage of children. It is very interesting that Chinese propaganda is pushing to import Africans, whether as brides or bringing in African workers to man the factories when the population pyramid is inverted.

    Either seems incredible. Why hasn’t the CCP learned from the examples of blacks in America, Europe, and Africa, with special attention to South Africa? Do they think Chinese culture is so self-evidently superior to Africans’ cultures that they’ll readily assimilate. Let’s assume that Chinese culture is superior and the African think so, too. What makes them think that Africans are capable of adopting it in anything but a cargo cult manner? Maybe they’re planning to bring them in as guest workers? But guest workers seem to always turn into permanent colonists.

    I’ll tell ya, what with the bare branches and far less than replacement fertility, both caused initially by the one child policy, it is not clear to me that the Chinese government is pulling the best and brightest out of a population with an average 100 IQ. Maybe the breakdown is verbal IQ of 95 and nonverbal/spatial IQ of 105?

    Someone here, I forget who, noticed the tendency in Asian doctors to get tunnel vision, and exclude all evidence and solutions except the one they’ve focused on. I wonder if something similar has happened with the CCP’s population an economy, and they are just incapable of thinking about unintended consequences. They just want to maximize economic growth, or escape the Malthusian trap, and lack the creativity to see how slashing fertility can destroy their nation.

    Maybe there is no debate within the party, and without a tradition of free speech without taboo, they easily land on policies that no one thinks are good ideas, but no one wants to stick his neck out and say so?

    I suppose I shouldn’t judge China so harshly. Our ruling class and the frustrated wannabe elite are terrible. We actually have a lethal diversity infection, while they just have a potential one. Our speech and policy is ever more constrained by taboo. The population of American-Americans is already dying, and the government is actively preventing capable whites from forming families, much like China does their core.

    I guess I just think that the yellow-pill hopes that some on the dissident right have of based China coming to our rescue may be wishful thinking. Even if they were based, I have read that they don’t really make a distinction between Americans and Brits. They blame English-speaking whites for the opium wars and humiliating China. They dislike our support of Taiwan, our agitation in Hong Kong…

  92. What Wokism gets you.

    “‘There is a fear that this will eradicate dwarfism’: the controversy over a new growth drug ”

    God forbid.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/sep/28/there-is-a-fear-that-this-will-eradicate-dwarfism-the-controversy-over-a-new-growth-drug

  93. Wency says:
    @polistra

    Usually estimates like this are based on something like the modern borders, so I think “Italy” would just be Roman Italy. Thus to get the Roman Empire at 1 AD, you’d have to combine Italy, Spain, France, and a majority of what’s labeled “Ancient” (everything but Persia, which itself wasn’t terribly rich, especially if Mesopotamia is excluded).

    But I guess some important Roman territories are not included in this at all, such as Illyria, Syria and their African territories other than Egypt.

  94. Dumbo says:
    @Anonymous

    Nope, it’s an actual poster from 1944 by Harald Damsleth. Norwegian, you’re correct. He produced several propaganda posters on commission during the Nazi occupation of Norway.

    I think the poster actually goes both ways, on one side criticizing “racism” (Ku Klux Klan, nooses), but also criticizing the elevation of black culture (“Jitterbug, Triumph of Civilization” it says).

    I think the main idea was to present America as a Frankenstein monster.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_Damsleth

    http://galleria.thule-italia.com/harald-damsleth/?lang=en

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  95. jason y says:

    when your enemies tell you which of your flaws they plan to exploit, listen to them.

    relatedly, i would guess if you looked at a distribution of the level-k reasoning abilities in the Chinese pop you’d see a lower % capable of level-2+ reasoning. the fraction of Asian people that model other people as having other-person models is lower than you might think. Their Keynesian Beauty Contests are less interesting, probably because of the endless stream of level-0s.

  96. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    No it’s real and of the period. It’s the work of Norwegian Nazi sympathizer, Harald Damsleth. A version also exists with Dutch captions. It’s now sort of forgotten, but there were a lot of Nazi collaborators in Western European countries (as well as a resistance). The Nazis considered the locals to be suitably Aryan and wanted to convert them to Nazi ideology with the help of local collaborators.

    The potato masher grenade is a nice touch.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  97. @Bill P

    Chinese do not have the same concept of race as Americans.

    Someone sto eems agree with you:

    According to Arnold, an Associated Press journalist previously based in Africa, China doesn’t actually have racial discrimination against Africans, “the so-called discrimination is instead similar to how urban residents discriminate against people from the rural countryside who have no money nor know the rules.”

    https://www.chinasmack.com/africans-in-guangzhou-opportunities-discrimination

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  98. @polistra

    China is making is OWN Black population

    https://www.chinasmack.com/africans-in-guangzhou-opportunities-discrimination

    which will be very different from that you have created in Amelika. So, them to yourselves.

  99. Redman says:
    @Ma Laoshi

    So let’s cut to the chase. The sweet spot for demographics is ~ .33% black, but get rid of all Jews?

    Thanks. We’ll be sure to pass along your helpful advice.

    • Replies: @Ma Laoshi
  100. Maybe they’re still trying to live down that laundry detergent ad…

  101. @El Dato

    Well, there’s your payback for supporting Hongkong Wong.

    To paraphrase Squeaker Polyloonasi: “It is a beautiful sight to behold”

  102. JMcG says:
    @Jack D

    The resistance were mostly Communist collaborators, especially in France. They turned on a dime from supporting the German occupiers to opposing them in late June, 1941.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  103. Hans says:

    When I was libtarding 30 years ago, I astounded my Chinese classmates by saying that blacks were a good thing for America. Not a one, and there were about 25, believed me. Since then we’ve been blessed with the droopy drawer look, 1619, and countless other examples of enrichment, vibrancy, and loud noise.

  104. I agree. America is hopelessly racist. For the sake of the human race, China must accept at least one million American blacks as political refugees. They need to provide them with generous substities.

    • Agree: Charles St. Charles
    • Replies: @Charles St. Charles
  105. they aren’t woke. they are just adopting jewish intellectual positions against europeans, europeans who happen to be their geopolitical opponents. Russia has done the same in a minor way for decades. both Russia and China will produce some minor propaganda about how America sucks because africans get treated badly, but Russia and China aren’t about to import 20 million africans and don’t believe for one second that vibrant diversity is a strength.

    “Haha, look at how America fails to provide the sun, the moon, and the stars to their Africans” while Russian standards of living slip behind several developing nations, is a pretty normal state of affairs since 1991.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  106. @Anonymous

    Bit of a silly graph. Until about 1750 GDP was essentially just the number of people. Venice was an exception, but only tiny trading states could achieve that.

  107. @RichardTaylor

    Seems like Benedict Arnold’s crime, in your eyes, was to stop being a disloyal traitor…

  108. Jack D says:
    @JMcG

    De Gaulle was no Communist.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    , @BB753
  109. syonredux says:

    Matty Yglesias:

    I really think “let’s make it harder for people to get away with murder” would be a good political issue for someone to run on.

    Dunno, Matty. That seems kinda un-Woke. Remember, that would mean putting a lot of Blacks in jail….

  110. syonredux says:
    @Jack D

    De Gaulle was based:

    It is very good that there be yellow Frenchmen, black Frenchmen, brown Frenchmen. They show that France is open to all races and that she has a universal vocation. But on the condition that they remain a small minority. Otherwise, France would no longer be France.

    We are of course above all a European people, of white race, of Greek and Latin culture, and of Christian religion. Let us not invent fanciful stories! The Muslims, have you gone to seem them? Have you looked at them with their turbans and their djellabas? You obviously see that they are not Frenchmen

    Those who advocate integration have the brain of a hummingbird, even if they are very scholarly. Try to integrate oil and vinegar. Shake the bottle. After a while, they will separate again. The Arabs are Arabs, the French are French. You think that the French body can absorb 10 million Muslims, who tomorrow will be 20 million and after-tomorrow 40 million? If we go for integration, if all the Arabs and all the Berbers of Algeria were considered as Frenchmen, how would you stop them from coming to live in the home country, given that the standard of living is so much higher? My village would no longer be called Colombey-les-Deux-Églises [Colombey-the-Two-Churches], but Colombey-the-Two-Mosques.

  111. @Deep Thought

    Haha! You just change the definition, that’s the ticket. “I’m no racist – I’m just a rural-countrysideist.”

    Maybe Chinese doesn’t have a word for “racism” in our sense, cause, why? Plus, how would you go referring to it, as in “the n-word”? “Arrest this man. He called me the word that has 3 horizontal squiggles, a little box on top, and two short curves from the middle toward the bottom right!”

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  112. Seems like Benedict Arnold’s crime, in your eyes, was to stop being a disloyal traitor…

    His crime was committing treason twice.

    Actually, he betrayed his army, not his country. Peggy was just as American as he was, and he went to her side. Today’s leaders are far more treasonous.

  113. Anon[177] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    It’s a very, very small number, though. The last I read about it, and saw for myself too, it was mostly just a concentration of 20,000 or so in Canton.

    What is the basis for their presence in Canton? Are they illegals?, and if so I thought China was more hard-core than the U.S. in tracking down and expelling illegals. Are they construction workers, who are “illegal” but wink-wink, we need them for a while, and if so will they be kicked out eventually? Are they married to Chinese or permanent residents? Are they are on limited term visas, and if so does China kick butt on overstays? Or has China lost its mind and admitted refugees and political asylees?

    If China, of all places, cannot prevent an African invasion, then all is lost.

    I mean, even 20,000, you can see where this is going, Chinese “discriminating” against them, and against halfbreeds, international pressure, even some internal pressure, from the “good people,” and before you can say Jack Robinson you have a tiny minority swinging you around by the balls, demanding free stuff ad infinitum.

  114. BB753 says:
    @Jack D

    De Gaulle was not the conservative war hero he pretended to be either.

  115. anon[156] • Disclaimer says:
    @LondonBob

    The mystery is why the US is allowing and using minoritarianism, Trotskyite destabilisation on itself and other Western allies.

    Which “US” are you referring to?

  116. @Dumbo

    I think the poster actually goes both ways…

    On the surface. Underneath, the message is always “We’re right, they’re wrong.”

    Hypocrites are quite consistent, when you look closely enough.

  117. Thoughts says:

    I want to talk about how Joe Montana’s grandchild was almost stolen by a Thai girl

  118. Nico says:

    The only problem with this strategy is that the Chinese were unable or unwilling to cover up their Uyghyr campaign. But if they can manage to bury that within a few years, the next generation of Wokes will be clinging to the ChiComs the way their grandparents wanked off to the Soviet Union.

  119. IHTG says:

    Here’s some red meat for you:

  120. Anonymous[377] • Disclaimer says:
    @AndrewR

    This just proves that China and ZOG are conjoined at the hip. If they really wanted to sow discord in the US they would support the only true American dissidents: white nationalists

    That makes no sense. Conservative and right wing white Americans are the most nationalistic and jingoistic Americans, and tend to be the most hawkish on and hostile to China. Conservative and right wing white Americans are also the most pro-Israel and pro-Jewish demographic in America, and liberal Jews like Soros are very hostile to China, while Israel is hostile to China because of China’s ties to Iran. And white nationalists are generally hostile to China because it’s an alien race and civilization.

  121. songbird says:
    @Anon

    Out of curiosity, do you mean more anti-white, or anti-Chinese?

    Not really either, official censorship policy is not to offend other groups. Though whites are sometimes the villains, the defining “anti” of Chinese entertainment is probably anti-Japanese (in a WW2 setting).

    What I mean is that I have heard phrases like “the equality of the races” or “Africa is the homeland of mankind” in Chinese movies, as well as rhetoric against past colonialism in Africa, which alarms me. Plus, I’ve seen (in an African setting), some miscegenation, and familial words, like daughter or uncle, used to describe the relationship between African children and Chinese men (though not in every case biological.) Possibly, I am attaching more significance than it rates, as Chinese typically use these types of words more freely.

  122. @Bill P

    Chinese do not have the same concept of race as Americans. Or, maybe they have a concept more similar to the emergent American elite.

    Racial and religious caste systems are foreign to China. In theory, Chinese rulers could have implemented such systems. But what would be the benefit? Sectarian clashes within the empire can lead to dynastic collapse, simply through the resources diverted to quelling them that can’t be used to deal with natural disasters (floods, droughts, epidemics that result in famine) that occur at unpredictable intervals, as well as regime-threatening ethnic majority revolts mounted by peasants and elites alike.

    When the empire expands, one of the big benefits, apart from increases in agricultural land and mineral resources, is additions to the population that provide both productive labor and recruits for military units. What Xi Jinping is doing to the Uighurs is just a microcosm of what Chinese rulers have been doing through a mix of coercion and incentive since China became an empire rather than a collection of dozens of warring kingdoms (much like Europe until the recent past) – integrating a foreign population into the larger social milieu. When China inevitably expands its territory, its model of assimilation will pretty much follow that time-tested template currently being forced on the Uighurs – integrate or be persecuted relentlessly until you do. You could call it the old melting pot methodology that used to be the norm stateside, but with a much heavier dose of government coercion.

    The upshot? A violent movement like BLM or Antifa would be quashed with mass arrests, quick executions for the leaders, and long stints in forced labor camps for the rank and file.

  123. Dr. Doom says:

    The Chinese despise blacks, but see an opportunity to bash America.

    What with the Uighers in concentration camps & trade war with Trump.

    The Chinese figure that blacks must have some sympathy here.

    They must watch fake news like CNN.

    The Chinese have never really understood the West.

    The Chinese will gladly use “racism” as an attack and defense.

    In China though, you couldn’t fill a theater with any black actors in leads.

    Its all just politics, and using the easiest tactics available.

  124. Muggles says:
    @Guy De Champlagne

    The soviets identified very strongly as a multi racial and multi ethnic society, something that, despite Putin’s white nationalist support from abroad, continues to this day.

    What “soviets” are you referring to? The North Koreans? Chinese? Ha!

    That propaganda was always a sham. Although Stalin was a Georgian, he pretty much hated them and his top cadres were Russian. They had quotas in Party committees but few non Russians rose to the top. A few ethnic Germans living in Russia.

    Non Russians were just window dressing, at most.

    Even Lenin, because he had an “Asiatic” grandfather somewhere, was mocked for being non Russian at times by Party insiders. Quietly usually. Robert Service’s bio Lenin goes into detail.

    Lenin himself was sensitive to that small part of his non Russian heritage. It did give him a slightly sinister look.

  125. @Bill P

    Chinese do not have the same concept of race as Americans. Or, maybe they have a concept more similar to the emergent American elite. The peasants are essentially slaves.

    I’d say subjects/productive assets rather than slaves. Think of a farmer’s proprietary attitude towards his livestock. He’s not going to torture his animals just for kicks because that would ruin their health and, hence, productivity. Let’s say he has a real menagerie of animals on his farm. Using horses as a proxy for blacks, a Chinese ruler isn’t going to wipe out his horses because he’s got an alpha leading a string of horses in rebellion. He’ll send the alpha leading the revolt to the dog food plant. And he’ll repeat this for every such incident. Think of this as the kind of cull that humans have been doing to domesticated animals for thousands of years.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  126. @Anon

    I can answer some of those questions, #177, but keep in mind it’s been half a decade since I read another article on it, and a whole decade since I was there.

    To relieve your anxiety (well, at least that of anyone who cares about China), this isn’t going anywhere, IMO. Firstly, I don’t think the Chinese want ANYONE else to do their work for them. That is, in their country, as outsourcing is a big thing*, with the work going out to Vietnam, Bangladesh, Indonesia, you name it.

    From what I saw and heard from Chinese people while I was there (I went to that “Chocolate City” with someone for shopping – nobody wants that gaudy crap though), these people were businessmen, wives of them, maybe some students, etc. The Chinese government controls its borders much, much better than this lame-ass excuse for a government we have. I doubt there were many illegals. They did come on valid visas of whatever sort.

    Because you brought up the overstayers, yes, that was some of them. However, again,, the Chinese don’t f__k around. Yes, the kick butt, likely literally often. A story that happened when I was there was that the cops came for an African visa overstayer, who fled by jumping out a 2nd-story window. Of course he got hurt bad, maybe died (they don’t care, I don’t care) and then some small riots ensued in the local area, mostly peaceful (sorry!). It was nothing like what we’ve had here, as George Soros has not installed his nonprosecuters there.

    After this, I think the Chinese just clamped down harder – more power to them.

    Here is a Peak Stupidity post on visa overstayers in America – Another aspect to illegal immigration – Visa overstayers. At the end I note that because China is not Diversity Heaven, any foreigners from the West or Africa can simply be picked out, as there aren’t many in the country. Just as importantly, the Chinese have EXIT controls. They know who has left, meaning they know who has stayed past his limit.

    .

    * If you think about the 1 child policy, it was in place from 1979 to 2015, but really eased up on about 10 years back. That means there isn’t that big supply of young Chinamen/women ready to work for cheap 29 days a month anymore. That glut is of over 40 y/o people now.

  127. Muggles says:

    That odd cartoon bubble text (above, in iSteve’s opening) had me scratching my head.

    “Hunt that Blackie!” isn’t something an American would ever say. A South African might or white Zimbabwean, but not American.

    The term “Blackie” is very strange for this cartoon usage. It’s like the Chinese who drew it was taught S. African English slang or the Chinese/English translation comes out sounding almost 18th century English.

    They may have recycled some apartheid era cartoon, but that was pre-computer graphics so would be odd to even find one.

    Do Australians use the term “blackie’?

    If your point is to make American cops look racist (though one of them in the ‘toon isn’t white) you need to get your epithets right. “Jogger” is now the au courant term.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @SFG
  128. syonredux says:

    The Hist Will ‘Not Be Moving Ahead’ With Richard Dawkins Address
    Author and academic Richard Dawkins is known for his books on evolution and his controversial criticisms of religion.

    The College Historical Society (the Hist) has tonight rescinded its invitation to Richard Dawkins to address the society next year.

    Auditor of the Hist Bríd O’Donnell announced the cancellation in a statement on her Instagram page, saying that she had been “unaware of Richard Dawkins’ opinions on Islam and sexual assault until this evening”, adding that the society “will not be moving ahead with his address as we value our members comfort above all else”.

    http://www.universitytimes.ie/2020/09/the-hist-will-not-be-moving-ahead-with-richard-dawkins-address/

    • Replies: @Charles St. Charles
  129. @Anon

    Hey, #177, here’s a personal anecdote to explain the difference between a real country and a country that is wide open. It’s from another Peak Stupidity post (we’ve got lots!) that’s not specifically on the subject, but this from the end of Banned in Beijing …:

    This is hardly related at all, except my friend’s date in the south of China was named Shuping (that’s the family name – first name was “Sweetie” or something). Anyway, I was in a hurry to meet them both before 2:30P on the “mainland” side of the border with Macao a few years back, as I would not know where to meet up with the bus to Canton, were I to be late. I just missed getting in front of the immigration man, when a Moslem guy (with crescent moon on his green passport) got back in front of me to finish. Let me tell you, this immigration guy was absolutely not screwing around or being PC by treating everyone the same. He went through every page on this guy’s passport with a magnifying glass, back and forth at least twice. 10-15 minutes went by. Well, I got my turn finally, and it took about 30 seconds. Though worried even more about making it in time into the country, I pointed at the guy, said “Moslem?” and gave that immigration guy a big thumbs up. He smiled back.

    Luckily my friend meant AFTER 2:30P, not BEFORE, as I looked frantically for gui lao (foreigners, literally “white ghosts”) all around the sea of Chinapeople on the other side. Good times, good times, … and we should import immigration zealots like that Chinese gentleman at the Zhuhai/Macau border, rather than vapid psychology students.

    BTW, I used “Beijing” here as the name due to the alliteration in the title. However, I am partial to Peking and Canton – Canton being Guangzhou, that huge city about 50-75 miles inside the mainland from Hong Kong. That province, Guangdong, was the original manufacturing powerhouse starting whenever Chairman Deng took over, but maybe one could say the late 1990s when it was going full bore.

  130. It’s not China, but I lived in Korea for years and my white wife and I felt no hesitation in going to any neighborhood in Seoul or any other location in the country at any time of day. My wife often noted how much safer she felt than in any large US city and wondered what the Koreans were doing right. I just said just take a look around and see who they’re keeping out.

  131. @flyingtiger

    Yes, if America is sooooo rayciss and oppresiviss and sapreemasuss, why aren’t blacks applying for asylum in all those loving and embracing United Nations countries? Why doesn’t the UN require its members to accept ‘Murican black refugees.

    Blacks don’t want fairness or equality, they want us to kneel. Just kneel, I think, somewhere deep down they know we’re the only ones who can keep the iphones, the lights and the electricity on, and ensure the poop goes OUT the pipes and the fresh water comes IN. But, maybe they’re even dumber than I think.

  132. @syonredux

    “we value our members comfort above all else”

    I didn’t realize the highest value in the study of history is “comfort above all else”.

    Komfort über alles!

  133. Jack D says:
    @Muggles

    You can’t expect Chinese cartoonists (especially 3rd rate hacks on a government salary – the cartoon is just awful in many ways – I’ve known high school students who can draw better than this) to be familiar with the nuances of American culture. Do you know by what slang names black people are known in various Chinese speaking countries?

    This cartoon is not meant to be analyzed as if it were the Mona Lisa. This is on the level of playground insults. It was just a quick throwaway jab at the Americans using what the Chinese perceive to be a vulnerability for us. The Chinese resent the fact that the West gets in their face about the Uighurs and is always looking for ways to hit back. Of course if they had a huge black minority with a high crime rate, they would be all over them like white on rice.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    , @Deep Thought
  134. The lengths to which some Tiger Moms will go:

    …as I opened one of the drawers, I saw something that shocked me — my parents’ divorce certificates…

    One more thing to add: in China, parents may hide the fact that they are divorced in order to not affect their children’s college entrance examination or divorce after their children’s college entrance examination.

    When cleaning up a bedroom, have you ever found something you weren’t supposed to see?

  135. Ma Laoshi says:
    @Redman

    We’ll be sure to pass along your helpful advice.

    Sooo Western in your thinking. The article asks the question “So what’s up with China?” and I humbly offer a concrete answer from on-the-ground experience. There is no “exceptionalist” associated imperative that this is what the whole world should do, ideally backed up by bombings and sanctions.

    But now that you mention it: “Bring your jews under control and keep your jews under control” is rather the lesson derived from centuries of bitter, bloody Western history. A religious cult indoctrinating its children “God created the universe exclusively for our superior race” is obviously not right in the head–and not in an innocent way. And of the ones who don’t attend Shul any more but keep the tribal affiliation, while considering themselves oh so liberal, I quote the Dutch proverb: a fox may lose its hair, but not its tricks.

    When Richard Feynman went to study, he was still facing a limit on the number of admitted jewish students in the US, but his teachers approvingly said “He’s one of the cool ones, not like those pushy freaks.” Analogous measures were in effect in the USSR. Yes, to our ears it all sounds dated, but those measures were based on experience of how jews actually behave in numbers and in power, as opposed to the superlative stories they tell about themselves. Once these restrictions were lifted jews flooded in, appointing ever-more of their own to ever-higher positions — and in two generations utterly ruined Western universities. People in Western academe now live in constant fear: utter one word without jewish permission and a mob of feral negresses will be sent your way, upon which no amount of groveling can prevent your being purged. Shouldn’t we reflect on this? Didn’t the universities once have something to do with raising us out of the muck of the Middle Ages?

    If you choose to read my previous report as “advice”, then let that advice be: quotas, identity politics, and affirmative action are always tools of divide-and-conquer, a means to nurture grievances rather than overcome them. The jews intended them that way.

  136. So Xinhua allows comments. How shocking. Should comments be allowed by all Western websites?

    Should Xinhua censor woke comments? Unz doesn’t. Allowing free speech doesn’t mean you agree with everybody you don’t censor. [email protected]

  137. Muggles says:
    @Jack D

    You can’t expect Chinese cartoonists (especially 3rd rate hacks on a government salary – the cartoon is just awful in many ways – I’ve known high school students who can draw better than this) to be familiar with the nuances of American culture. Do you know by what slang names black people are known in various Chinese speaking countries?

    I get your point overall.

    What is surprising is that with all of the thousands of Chinese in China who have lived here/studied here, that they didn’t run this by someone familiar with the local American idiom. Just (evidently) someone who knew “British” English.

    Clearly a propaganda team failure. If I were lampooning Mainland China over some issue, I wouldn’t just use someone who knew only the Chinese language idioms from Taiwan or Singapore.

    I expect more from the ChiCom propaganda teams! High Standards Breed Success!

  138. @Rob

    You’re right in that China won’t save the white race at large, as the vast majority of AmNats, Ziocons, Shitlibs, etc. are viciously anti-China. Saving your enemy is foolish. If you adapt into China, ‘assimilate’ in the 19th century sense of the term to Chinese civilization, you will not be persecuted for your whiteness and be looked upon as a Potemkin villager in one of the international cities.

    What most of the boomer WhiteNats need to realize is that no one owes whites anything. The self-hate, reparations from the conqueror idea is not shared by anyone else. I came to China with a Ph.D and stacks of educational-linguistics research. They welcomed me, I married a high status daughter of a party underboss, and that gives me security, safety and power. That is what whites need to thrive. If more emigrate here they can network and intermarry. My Hapa daughter has fine Manchu and Hungarian features, and I’d be thrilled if a white Zoomer or whatever follows gen Z happened to scoop her up. That’s how the Portuguese colonized for the most part in continental Asia, and they built white communities of substance here — the only European power that did, in fact.

  139. Bill P says:
    @Elmer T. Jones

    You hit the nail on the head, Elmer. However, these white political hooligans are worse than black criminals in many regards. I spent some time in Seattle last week to visit family, and the atmosphere is downright oppressive. Blacks generally don’t care about white people’s political opinions. They have a live and let live attitude where that’s concerned. The authoritarian white left, on the other hand, cares very much and will ruthlessly enforce political hygiene.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  140. SFG says:
    @Muggles

    Agree with Jack D–between the sandals and the antique insult, it’s likely random Chinese cartoonists just aren’t up on local American ethnic differences. I doubt anyone here could tell you the stereotypes they have of Uighurs or Tibetans.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  141. Anon[194] • Disclaimer says:
    @AndrewR

    China is the most populated country, and the problem is that only a minority of that population are females of reproductive age. It’s population structure, not size, that is the issue at hand here. China’s enormous middle aged population is a massive obstacle to finance and also a government burden. All countries that have made efforts to bring fertility rate above replacement have failed, including China.

    There are many things that China will be in 100 years, a global (or even regional) empire is not.

    • Replies: @bomag
  142. nebulafox says:
    @SFG

    I don’t think a detailed understanding of all the nuances of American society is common, but thanks to the global dominance of American pop culture and medic communications, a basic awareness of the basic racial split in American society between whites and blacks is common knowledge globally. The converse isn’t true.

    I have interacted with inebriated mainlanders who did make black/Uighur comparisons once I’d established I was no baizuo and uninterested in nagging them about human rights abuses in China, with the implication that white Americans were too soft in dealing with “troublesome” and “antisocial” demographics. These were educated, intelligent guys, some with STEM doctorates, all speaking English on at least a basic level. So, I can only imagine what Joe Sixpack the rural migrant would think when looking at images of Detroit or Baltimore and what conclusions he would draw about black Americans. Human nature being what it is, strict logical consistency isn’t a top priority for most people, aka, this doesn’t stop the NBA from being popular in China, but Turkic pop stars are, too.

    (Their real disdain, though, was for the “baizuo”: white lefties. They said plenty of other stuff that revealed just how little the PC homilies of the international companies and universities they worked at had penetrated them. I think it is important not to confuse second generation Americanized immigrant kids who are sadly being assimilated into SJW norms with nationals from their parents origin country.)

    Also, a lot of foreigners think the US is a lot more black than it actually is, and far less Hispanic or Asian than it actually is. I’d bet a lot of Americans make the former mistake, too. Blacks are about 12, 13% of the United States: about the same percentage as Malays in Singapore. If you take the media and pop culture at face value, the US is at least a third black, possibly more. Overall, I found Twinkie’s hypothesis on how this reflects the last gasp of black political power in the face of changing demographics persuasive.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  143. nebulafox says:
    @Bill P

    In a similar vein, three guesses as to the socioeconomic background/skin complexion for users of the word “Latinx”.

    >Blacks generally don’t care about white people’s political opinions. They have a live and let live attitude where that’s concerned. The authoritarian white left, on the other hand, cares very much and will ruthlessly enforce political hygiene.

    Been my experience, too.

    More dangerous, too, since their more upscale sympathizers are the intended future ruling class.

  144. @prime noticer

    they aren’t woke. they are just adopting jewish intellectual positions against europeans, europeans who happen to be their geopolitical opponents. Russia has done the same in a minor way for decades. both Russia and China will produce some minor propaganda about how America sucks because africans get treated badly, but Russia and China aren’t about to import 20 million africans and don’t believe for one second that vibrant diversity is a strength.

    Thanks. You are merely admitting that you people are opponents of the Jews, the Russians, the Chinese, the Blacks….– Any people who have 2, instead of 5, eyes!!!

  145. @Achmed E. Newman

    What Arnold means is that the Chinese discriminate according to the size of the wallet, while the whites discriminate according to the colour of the skin!!!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  146. @Jack D

    The Chinese resent the fact that the West gets in their face about the Uighurs and is always looking for ways to hit back. Of course if they had a huge black minority with a high crime rate, they would be all over them like white on rice.

    The whites HATE the Chinese because the latter don’t “do as they say”:

    ý@ýýýýHin reply to sikko6

    sikko6in reply to ashbirdSep 19th, 06:13
    Chinese are very good at copying. China will copy what America did.

    And then America will say, “Do as I say, NOT as I do!” but China won’t listen because the Chinese, unlike some other non-whites, have a habit of not knowing their place in front of the whites. The whites and honourary whites then proceed to hate the Chinese for not knowing their place…. ;-D, ;-D, ;-D

    Tom Clancy should start writing future history along that line.

    ;-D, ;-D, ;-D…

    Devil’s

  147. Anonymous[248] • Disclaimer says:
    @bomag

    Most peoples come with moral superiority baked into their DNA. They may toss out “slavery” and “Jim Crow”, but they are not particularly against those things themselves.

    So you agree that such things as “slavery” and “Jim Crow” reflect an internalized moral superiority felt by Chinese and jews?

    • Replies: @bomag
  148. Anonymous[248] • Disclaimer says:
    @Johann Ricke

    I’d say subjects/productive assets rather than slaves. Think of a farmer’s proprietary attitude towards his livestock. He’s not going to torture his animals just for kicks because that would ruin their health and, hence, productivity.

    Does the same reasoning apply to chattel slavery as practiced in the United States?

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  149. @Anonymous

    Wow. We know the India GDP from 1 AD. The India IRS kept everyones tax returns on file.

  150. Neoconned says:
    @Rob

    Maybe Whiskeys right….maybe its Chinese women watching the Kardashian trash & now they think they can have their own diseased STD filled BBC but magically they won’t get herpes & magically their man will stay by them and the taxpayer beta males will support them. Or the NBA. Or something.

    I dunno but given Steve’s”world’s most important graph” whiskey was right….the master race is African, not Aryan…

  151. @Anonymous

    Does the same reasoning apply to chattel slavery as practiced in the United States?

    Slave owners couldn’t kill slaves at will. Xi Jinping can kill anyone he wants in China.

    To the extent chattel slavery had slave owners exercising life-or-death authority over their property, it was on a far smaller scale. The biggest slave owner had 1,000 slaves. Xi Jinping is like an emperor by another name. All of China – both land and people – are at his disposal, in a way that the monarchs of the West once ruled over their realms. That’s a territory bigger than the US, and a population of 1.5b people. In other words, literally 1.5m times the human resources marshaled by the biggest slave owner prior to the late unpleasantness.

    While the people of China aren’t exactly slaves, they’re not exactly free, either. That is pretty much why tax evasion is rampant there. If your ruler is taking more than his due, it’s not merely not immoral to balk at his demands, it’s practically a moral duty to deny him as much of your hard-earned cash as it is possible to do.

  152. @Deep Thought

    That’s not true though. The Chinese will never accept you as a Chinaman, even if you (somehow!) learn Mandarin well and have lived there for 25 years, if you don’t LOOK like a Chinaman.

    In the meantime, White people DON’T discriminate based on the color of the skin but on the content of the character.

    • Troll: d dan
    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  153. @Achmed E. Newman

    That’s not true though. The Chinese will never accept you as a Chinaman, even if you (somehow!) learn Mandarin well and have lived there for 25 years, if you don’t LOOK like a Chinaman.

    They might not “accept you as a Chinaman” because you are not a “Chinaman”. But I have seen too many Chinese willing to suck up to wealthy Blacks while looking down on poor Chinese. So, the discriminate according to the size of one’s wallet.

    In the meantime, White people DON’T discriminate based on the color of the skin but on the content of the character.

    Ever heard of BLM???

    On some internet forums, Chinese Americans point out that they are not accepted as “real Americans” by the whites. On several 60 Minutes episodes they I have watched, there were discussions about AA (All Americans) as distinguished from non-AA’s!!!

    Oh! Here are more:

    You need to cut the above 2 dark persons open and show that they have the wrong type of “content” in them!!!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  154. @Dumbo

    Quite interesting. The caption is not German but Danish. It says, “The United States wants to save Europe’s culture from ruin”.

  155. @AndrewR

    I disagree. The Chinese know Whites are more capable than low-IQ non-Whites, especially Blacks. Blacks control the Democrat Party and the Democrat Party is set to gain control of America thanks to changing demographics. That means Blacks will control America, which is a dream-come-true if you hate America or simply want it out of the way. On the other hand, if supported from outside, White nationalists might win. If they won, North America would be restored to sanity and pose the only possible challenge to the coming Chinese hegemony. The US is doing such a stupendous job destroying itself (as is Canada) that the Chinese would be stupid to do anything to upset the process. They may be playing a bit part in hastening the collapse, but surely they understand that’s not even necessary. More than one prominent CCP member is likely to be aware of the tremendous mistake Germany made in helping Lenin gain power in Russia for the sake of disrupting an enemy.

  156. @Deep Thought

    But I have seen too many Chinese willing to suck up to wealthy Blacks while looking down on poor Chinese. So, the discriminate according to the size of one’s wallet.

    Which family would Chinese parents rather their kid marry into, DT?

    Ever heard of BLM???

    Yes, much too much!!! That illustrates my point. Americans realize that the useful idiots of the BLM movement are the looting and rioting black thugs. We don’t like the content of their character. Neither do we like the content of the character of the antifa Commies. Yet, somehow, they are mostly white. It’s not about skin color until one has experienced enough violence that one just flees areas with lots of blacks on the principle that you can’t sort them all out.

    Read some of Paul Kersey’s writing on this very site, DT. It sounds like you don’t live here, so you have no idea of how much pain and grief the content of that significant portion of black people’s character has hurt this country.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  157. bomag says:
    @Anonymous

    So you agree that such things as “slavery” and “Jim Crow” reflect an internalized moral superiority felt by Chinese and jews?

    No. Their modern attack on those tagged with supporting slavery and Jim Crow reflects an internalized moral superiority.

  158. bomag says:
    @Anon

    There are many things that China will be in 100 years, a global (or even regional) empire is not.

    The future probably belongs to those who can manipulate machines and processing power. China is well placed.

  159. @Achmed E. Newman

    Which family would Chinese parents rather their kid marry into, DT?

    Do young people in the West still need their parents’ consent on whom they want to marry to?

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chinese+man+married+black+women

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chinese+woman+married+black+man

    Yes, much too much!!!…

    So, what was so bad about the character of the old Indian man whose only crime was strolling on the sidewalk???

  160. GammaRay says:
    @Bill P

    Sure enough, over time, little dusky, curly-haired half-African children appeared, running here and there amongst the chickens foraging in the hemp groves in summertime.

    Chinese do not have the same concept of race as Americans. Or, maybe they have a concept more similar to the emergent American elite. The peasants are essentially slaves. They may theoretically be Han Chinese, but this idea that there’s racial solidarity among Chinese is a fiction. It is honored more in the breach.

    If it served the Chinese elite, they’d have no problem importing millions of Africans into China. The only reason they do not is that Africans are too expensive and inefficient…

    what you wrote struck me as hollow, almost like you were intentionally trying to overstate the case for there being a lack of racial solidarity amongst the chinese. Its an astonishing leap in logic to conclude that the chinese dont believe in racial solidarity just from seeing some mixed chinese/african children. What’s true is that the chinese dont believe in racial solidarity to the extent that some people think they do, but its completely and laughably wrong to state that the notion of racial solidarity amongst chinese people is a fiction.

    Whenever people vastly overstate something like this I always become immediately suspicious of their motives. Needless to say, upon browsing through your prior comments I was unsurprised to see your antipathy for the chinese government. After realizing how you felt about the chinese government your current comment makes much more sense. You were basically trying to push an obvious falsehood about chinese racial solidarity being fiction in order to set up your thinly disguised barb about the chinese elite (the CCP of course) being untrustworthy and shifty. Don’t get me wrong, I dont care if you like or dislike the CCP, but don’t blatantly lie to make your point, thats just dishonest

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