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We are all supposed to be constantly counting the number of white men in positions of honor and influence, such as winners of mathematicians’ awards. But what about counting the number of black women who have recently been mayors of America’s most notoriously downwardly spiraling city?
A white woman anchor in Baltimore has been fired for noticing that Baltimore’s last three spectacularly failed mayors have been black women and then engaging in the firing offense of lèse-majesté by asking an impudent question of somebody who not only has more intersectional PoCemon Points, but is also a Professor of Angry Blackness in the Department of Communications.
From the Baltimore Sun:
David Zurawik Contact Reporter
WJZ anchorwoman Mary Bubala, who came under fire Thursday for a question she asked about the race, gender and leadership of Baltimore’s past three mayors, is no longer with the station, according to an email sent to The Baltimore Sun on Monday night by general manager Audra Swain.
“Mary Bubala is no longer a WJZ-TV employee. The station apologizes to its viewers for her remarks,” the statement said. Swain declined to comment further.
The criticism of Bubala that started last week in the wake of the WJZ anchor asking Loyola University Maryland Professor Karsonya “Kaye” Wise Whitehead an on-air question about the race and gender of the past three Baltimore mayors has continued to build.
“We’ve had three female, African-American mayors in a row,” Bubala said in setting up her question. “They were all passionate public servants. Two resigned, though. Is this a signal that a different kind of leadership is needed to move Baltimore City forward?”
On-air Thursday, Whitehead was very clear in saying no, it does not suggest a different kind of leadership is needed.
In a statement sent to The Sun today in the wake of WJZ’s action, Whitehead wrote, “The current conversations around leadership in Baltimore are challenging, emotional, and at times include layers of racism and sexism. There is an assumption that since three black women have served as mayor — and the city has not entirely changed for the better — then perhaps black women are not fit to lead this city. No one can ask racially biased questions in the public sphere — including in the media — without being held accountable.”
“Bubula” Isn’t that the last thing the smarmy guy in “Die Hard” said before the bad guy shot him in the head?
In the not so distant future anyone who speaks of the problems in society will be exiled for bringing up problematic discourse.
hmmm
You may not suggest something so lacking in charm in Charm City.
The second is a coincidence.
The third is a trend.
Dear Pee Eich Dee Karsonaya, please be so kind and delete your last name.
That's just ain't Who You Are.
https://kayewhitehead.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/reparations3.jpg?w=600
( that funny picture is borrowed from Kaye's personal website)
How dare she? It’s not a reporter’s job to ask questions.
still too many pale people in baltimore. gotta run out the last couple.
somebody tell Z-Man to turn off the lights when he's the last man out.
Just because it was a good question and her firing was unjust doesn’t mean I can’t point out that she must be really fucking stupid.
Yes, yes, she should have been more sophisticated and known just where the Overton Window would be at any given nanosecond, like a good citizen of globohomoutopia would have done,
... or we could just have freedom of speech.
Who is it who is really stupid here? The free-speaker? Or those who condemn her and defend their absence of freedom?
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I do blame her for stupidly apologizing, however. There she became the one who condemned herself and defended her absence of freedom. Besides being morally wrong, now she not only has no future in mainstream broadcasting, she has no future in edgy alternative media either.Replies: @c matt, @Known Fact, @JimDandy, @Abe
Now replace her with a black woman and see what it does to their ratings.
I want to see all white women tarred as “racist Beckys” and expelled from work and school. Then they might say “screw that shit” and go back to marrying white men, bearing white children, and cutting eye-holes in white pillowcases.
I’m pretty sure that’s the job of the media.
You following Chris Matthews’s latest “gaff”. Apparently he hates black women or something.
Only in the USSR., er, USA.
She worked 15 years there and got booted for asking a legitimate question about black competence. And groveling got her nowhere…..From Da Root — https://www.theroot.com/baltimore-anchorwoman-gets-the-boot-after-questioning-b-1834584112
In an email to the Baltimore Sun on Tuesday, Bubala confirmed that she had, in fact, been voted off the island.
“In my 22 years of working in TV news in Baltimore—15 of those years with WJZ—I have always treated people with the utmost respect and dignity. I loved my job because I love the people of Baltimore. Last week I realized I made a mistake in the language I used on air. I immediately apologized for any hurt I unintentionally caused,” she wrote. “Unfortunately, I now stand in the path of the tornado. WJZ was forced to let me go. I am saddened and shocked by this decision […] I fully intend to fight to restore my reputation because I’ve invested my heart and soul in my work and my city.”
Pugh’s predecessor, former Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, took to Twitter to applaud the station for its decision.
“Shut Up, they explained”
The Satanic Questions!
A Fatwa issued by Media Mullahs wasn’t long in coming.
Except when we’re condemning White people, especially “Stale, Pale Males”.
Otherwise it’s Crimethink. Crimethinkers must be punished.
Sounds to me like the white chick asked the perfect set-up question for the black chick to make her point that race and sex we’re not the issue. I would even bet the two worked it out in advance. Now the black chick is using the controversy to her advantage and hanging Becky out to dry
Speaking of catty, this could have turned out a whole lot better for WJZ's ratings if they hadn't turned the cameras off during the (I'm sure as hell hoping) ensuing cat fight.
WSJ — Baltimore’s Demographic Divide
Lots of interesting graphics.
Another way to gauge the city’s racial mix is using a diversity index, or the odds that two randomly selected people would differ by race or ethnicity. Using six racial/ethnic categories—Hispanics, plus non-Hispanic whites, blacks, American Indians, Asians and others—most of Baltimore scores relatively low on the index, further evidence of the city’s segregation. (Most of the areas of the city that rank in the top quintile on the index are sparsely populated and therefore overstate the neighborhood’s diversity.)
https://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=10473Replies: @eah
"Whatever our color, let's all try to get along, OK? Why don't we pretend we are all green. Alright, folks, light green in the burbs, dark green in the back bay."
Miss Bubala's question: "Is [the history of municipal corruption] a signal that a different kind of leadership is needed to move Baltimore City forward?”
Of course Baltimore needs a different kind of leadership, but it has no chance of getting it. This is why Zimbabwe is the way it is, why South Africa is headed towards Zimbabwe-status and why the talented tenth in America get as far away from their co-ethnics as they can.
But Sailer's "war on noticing" operates viciously among our "elites". If she wanted to keep her job, she should not have given voice to the obvious.
But why would any self-respecting person want to work in the legacy media?
“punish white people for unequal outcomes” — and ‘noticing’
https://twitter.com/purehategraphs/status/1112108673336147968
Orwell must be laughing his ass off (and probably rolling over in his grave too).
Are their any organizations run by black women that haven’t failed?
I really don't think Baltimore is a mess because of its mayors. The rot goes all the way up and down. Tell me which white, male mayor is going to fix anything. It would still be a left-wing, excuse-everthing Democrat.Replies: @Art Deco
What do you mean by 'organization'? You want an inventory of small businesses owned by black women?
“the city has not entirely changed for the better ”
Nice weasel words to describe a city that is in the top 5 for violent crime in the US year after year.
Good Lord, this article is an absolute gold mine. Beginning with “Broadcast Becky” which Steve should copyright and sell to Hollywood as a movie title.
PoCemon? Wokemon? Do the Wokey Pokey? Is that what it’s all about?
Is that how they’re spelling “bubeleh” now? Misnamed? Perhaps a Teachable Moment?
Righto! It suggests we need to do it more, faster, and harder!
ROFL. Indeed, it’s circling the drain, but why quibble? (Once it’s completely and irrevocably wrecked, we can bring in a white male to try and clean up the mess, as Detroit has now done.)
The one accurate remark, entirely devoid of irony. We all do, honey. Come join us!
And...one more white person leaves Baltimore.
Thus spoke professor K. Wise Whitehead.
For us white people, talking – not even asking questions, but simply talking extemporaneously – is a minefield. One miss-step is fatal – you can’t apologize to a mindless SJW IED. I have long given all people the benefit of the doubt in the heat of discussion – free thinking and open responding on the fly must necessarily lead to miss-staments, which can be resolved by a polite prompt for clarification rather than a later demand for exile. As an improvising musician, I know the way to spontaneous generation of well-executed musical phrases is a long period of patiently suffered and carefully pruned wrong notes.
But our browner betters do not want us to think or negotiate differences from rational principles (logic is white devilry). They want us to embrace and internalize the catechism of whites bad/browns good. The point of the unmerciful punishment of a single instance of wrongthinking and wrongspeech is not only to correct the current offender, but to warn off future thinking.
Yeah, but she’s not a Blonde Becky, so she gets no slack. Wait a minute, isn’t Bubala a semitic name?
general manager Audra Swain
Her tweets are protected — a natural question is: since when? — Mom to Alexandra, Sister to Tim, Vice President & General Manager of WJZ at CBS Corporation, Baltimore Ravens season ticket holder since 2002, Duke fan for life
She apparently lives in ‘North Baltimore’, zip code 21210, which is 80% white (10% law-abiding Asians), and only about 6% black.
We have constant giveaways to unqualified, undeserving women and NAMs and people wonder why this country is falling apart?
No one can ask racially biased questions in the public sphere — including in the media — without being held accountable.”
So the gay Pennsylvania state legislator who attacked a woman praying outside a Philly abortion clinic several times while berating her as an “old white lady” (racist, sexist AND ageist)…I assume the media will be holding him accountable (as accountable as Nick Sandmann?) for asking racially biased questions in the public sphere, as well?
Any second now, I’m sure, until Sims is forced to resign, like Bubala, or is demonized as viciously as the (entirely innocent) Nick Sandmann was demonized.
The same man also attacked a mother and three young girls, the youngest of whom was 13, and challenged his viewers to publicize their names and addresses. Oh, he also assaulted them for being “white,” as well.
Everyone pretends the city of Baltimore had its shining moment, but it’s been a shithole since the 70’s. It’s like the most benighted wards in DC, insolent and footsore black ladies scolding people at every turn, who scowl at you while you pay your bus fare. Brothers wearing other people’s wristwatches.
It’s like Detroit but still angry enough where the gentrifiers can’t have any fun. Just dire.
My grandfather grew up & lived in New York City. He was a civil engineer. He worked for years on some tunnels in Baltimore that I'm told were very innovative for their time.
When I was a boy, he regaled me with stories about how cool Baltimore was. The architecture, the crab cakes, the neighborliness.
When I was older, and saw Baltimore with my own eyes, I thought that the old man must have been nuts. I guess that he didn't want to explain "White Flight" to his adoring grandson.Replies: @anon, @Ghost of Bull Moose
Do the Wokey Pokey?
That has potential.
Lots of interesting graphics.
Another way to gauge the city’s racial mix is using a diversity index, or the odds that two randomly selected people would differ by race or ethnicity. Using six racial/ethnic categories—Hispanics, plus non-Hispanic whites, blacks, American Indians, Asians and others—most of Baltimore scores relatively low on the index, further evidence of the city’s segregation. (Most of the areas of the city that rank in the top quintile on the index are sparsely populated and therefore overstate the neighborhood’s diversity.)
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/NA-CF643A_Bmore_16U_20150501162410.jpgReplies: @Mr McKenna, @YetAnotherAnon, @Achmed E. Newman, @Known Fact, @Steve in Greensboro
The “Diversity Index” is just another trick to help ensure that all sections of a given metropolis devolve into wreckage at roughly the same pace. This we now call “progressive”….
And of course there is not way that she will be replaced by another white woman. Or white man.
I think we are at a tipping point where zero quotas for white people are becoming normalized. In academia, for professorships and adminstration, it’s already quite far along.
1. F*** the 1st amendment. Anyone who supports this firing needs to be forced to live in Baltimore. Literally, they can’t get out alive.
2. The new mayor Baltimore needs is a guy named Draco. However, he died several thousand years ago, and his name is used to smear good governance.
Has the censorship war against evidence of human biodiversity reached its peak?
The same people who spend countless hours hunting for any hint of error or malfeasance by any and all white males, and often publicly shaming them without cause, now have outlawed any questioning of the performance of any black women.
Soviet and Maoist censorship was similar, but eventually failed spectacularly.
“wry detachment” — “Broadcast Becky”
It’s wrong to be flippant about this — the woman lost her job, which is a serious matter — perhaps even more serious is that, given the nature of her (umm) offense, she may have a great deal of trouble getting another one — this is simply not right — debatably worse is the way Whites feel compelled to throw away whatever dignity they have left by issuing groveling, ritualistic apologies that bring nothing.
https://twitter.com/MaryWJZ/status/1124409897003700224
No, this is an admission of guilt. That's how the Blacks and SJWs see it.
Apologies don't work against SJWs. Ever. It's like throwing chum in the water with sharks. Just works them into a feeding frenzy.
It's wrong to be flippant about this -- the woman lost her job, which is a serious matter -- perhaps even more serious is that, given the nature of her (umm) offense, she may have a great deal of trouble getting another one -- this is simply not right -- debatably worse is the way Whites feel compelled to throw away whatever dignity they have left by issuing groveling, ritualistic apologies that bring nothing.
https://twitter.com/MaryWJZ/status/1124409897003700224Replies: @eah, @reiner Tor, @Moses, @Kyle, @MBlanc46
2019 Baltimore City Homicides - ListReplies: @eah
this same exact thing happened in pittsburgh 3 years ago at WTAE. in 2016 some guys shot up a block party, killing 6 people, but got away. the police said they had no good description of the suspects and were looking for leads. then on air, after covering the story, anchor Wendy Bell said, “We all know what they look like.”
she was fired immediately. she worked there for 18 years. she was good looking. she was well liked. she probably voted democrat in every election. none of it saved her.
it was insanely idiotic. i mean, you work in a news room. for decades. around dozens of democrats. hell, the news station is probably 90% democrats. you KNOW the rules. why on earth would you say that.
she finally got a new job over 2 years later on AM radio, a gigantic downgrade.
It was heroically honest. FIFYReplies: @Achmed E. Newman, @L Woods, @bored identity
101 so far.
2019 Baltimore City Homicides – List
“How dare she? It’s not a reporter’s job to ask questions.”
still too many pale people in baltimore. gotta run out the last couple.
somebody tell Z-Man to turn off the lights when he’s the last man out.
In fairness, it actually was a stupid question to ask. In a rational world of course she wouldn’t have been fired for it, it would have just been brushed past. It isn’t an offensively stupid question, but it is in fact a stupid question. Partly because it’s imprecise, partly because it generalizes in a pointless and not terribly useful manner. We all know that Baltimore’s problems are not caused by its mayors, that “leadership” will not solve them, and we all know that if a black woman runs for mayor there (meaning she’s played politics long enough and jumped through enough career and ideological hoops to be able to run for mayor of Baltimore), then statistically she’s not likely to have too much in common with say Margaret Thatcher.
People need to get it in their heads that on many topics, race, JQ, and sexuality chief among them, American public discourse is childish, simple-minded and prone to hysteria, hamstrung by enough taboos and third rails to power all of Thailand, and with a hopelessly childish vocabulary for complex processes, so it is basically impossible to have a rational discussion about certain topics in a high-profile public setting like a TV show. It’s not really permissible to ask or answer genuinely intelligent questions in such a forum. Best to just brush past them.
It’s like the endlessly childish bit about “having a discussion about race”. What on Earth could that possibly even mean? It’s like saying we need to have a discussion about lungs. Be more specific please.
It's a valid question as to why 2 of the last 3 Baltimore mayors have had to resign due to corruption. You're right that there are not too many Thatchers in Baltimore politics but is it asking too much to find one that is not corrupt? Lots of American cities have had black mayors but having CORRUPT black mayors seems to be reserved for the biggest shitholes - Atlantic City, Camden, Detroit, etc. What is it about extremely poor cities that encourages corrupt government?
2019 Baltimore City Homicides - ListReplies: @eah
https://twitter.com/Busch40723402/status/1125582027892379648
People need to get it in their heads that on many topics, race, JQ, and sexuality chief among them, American public discourse is childish, simple-minded and prone to hysteria, hamstrung by enough taboos and third rails to power all of Thailand, and with a hopelessly childish vocabulary for complex processes, so it is basically impossible to have a rational discussion about certain topics in a high-profile public setting like a TV show. It's not really permissible to ask or answer genuinely intelligent questions in such a forum. Best to just brush past them.
It's like the endlessly childish bit about "having a discussion about race". What on Earth could that possibly even mean? It's like saying we need to have a discussion about lungs. Be more specific please.Replies: @El Dato, @TTSSYF, @Jack D
Herewith ends this thread.
If the last three failed Baltimore mayors were white men and that were mentioned by a black woman, would the reaction have been the same?
I think we know the answer.
Maybe she had had enough of Baltimore and wanted to go out in a blaze of pointing out why she’s had enough of Baltimore.
Her remarks were in fact pretty outrageous. The only way they make any sense is if you believe that incompetence and corruption are intractably endemic among African Americans.
Which is true, but still way outside the Overton window at this point. So we have to pretend to assume that two out of three mayors ending up with criminal charges is just some sort of weird coincidence, and black women are blank slates disconnected from any particular culture.
I’ve gotta say however that the whole thing about laundering embezzled money via a children’s health book series is Rockford Files-level clever as a scam. Give her a little credit for that. Had the books been about a trans kid she would have been home free.
She should have framed the question by asking if the fact that the poor performance of the last 3 black female mayors will hurt the election prospects of future black female candidates.
That must be why they make sense to me.
Yeah, the philo-Semite atheist Orwell who thought Englishmen like Chesterton and Belloc would and should be banned the England of his day because they questioned the pernicious political and social activities of the Jews.
I don’t understand how people are so stupid to still keep apologizing. Can anyone name just one example of someone saved by apologizing?
China Joe was not only saved, he's currently leading the pack.
"I fully intend to fight to RESTORE [emphasis added] my reputation...."
It's wrong to be flippant about this -- the woman lost her job, which is a serious matter -- perhaps even more serious is that, given the nature of her (umm) offense, she may have a great deal of trouble getting another one -- this is simply not right -- debatably worse is the way Whites feel compelled to throw away whatever dignity they have left by issuing groveling, ritualistic apologies that bring nothing.
https://twitter.com/MaryWJZ/status/1124409897003700224Replies: @eah, @reiner Tor, @Moses, @Kyle, @MBlanc46
She’s groveling. I feel some sympathy for her, but as part of the (anti-white) media complex, it feels a little bit like when small time Stalinists were shot for imaginary crimes – bad, but, umm, the machine they had been part of is now devouring them, still better than if it was devouring a fully innocent person, isn’t it?
“but is also a Professor of Angry Blackness in the Department of Communications.”
Apparently we are all required to be professors of angry blackness.
she was fired immediately. she worked there for 18 years. she was good looking. she was well liked. she probably voted democrat in every election. none of it saved her.
it was insanely idiotic. i mean, you work in a news room. for decades. around dozens of democrats. hell, the news station is probably 90% democrats. you KNOW the rules. why on earth would you say that.
she finally got a new job over 2 years later on AM radio, a gigantic downgrade.Replies: @reiner Tor, @Nicholas Stix, @Mr. Anon, @Buffalo Joe
She was, also, part of the MSM. Sort of like a poor little communist getting shot under Stalin. Okay, he was just a little guy. But still…
She didn’t frame the question right but the substance is still legit. The media and other liberals say that diversity is inherently better. They just made a big deal that the new Chicago mayor was a black woman. Little was mentioned about her background simply that she was a black woman and gay.
She should have framed the question by asking if the fact that the poor performance of the last 3 black female mayors will hurt the election prospects of future black female candidates.
I dissent from the various versions of “the anchorwoman was stupid to ask this question; she should have known better!”
Yes, yes, she should have been more sophisticated and known just where the Overton Window would be at any given nanosecond, like a good citizen of globohomoutopia would have done,
… or we could just have freedom of speech.
Who is it who is really stupid here? The free-speaker? Or those who condemn her and defend their absence of freedom?
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I do blame her for stupidly apologizing, however. There she became the one who condemned herself and defended her absence of freedom. Besides being morally wrong, now she not only has no future in mainstream broadcasting, she has no future in edgy alternative media either.
Mary shouldn’t have apologized. As it stands now there’s a counter backlash with people demanding she be brought back. This might end with the general manager’s firing. Local TV is a different animal and viewers do stick with anchors, follow them etc. There are upset old ladies that don’t know why a women they watched for 20 years has been booted off unceremoniously. The station is probably getting bombarded with angry calls.
“In the not so distant future anyone who speaks of the problems in society will be exiled for bringing up problematic discourse.”
The Chinese ban/regulate broadcasters and internet apps that truthfully report smog conditions in some of their major cities, even though you can look out your window on some days and see the truth. Some people just don’t want to see the truth and are blind even though they can see. How is this any different?
In other news, the CIA’s Jeff Bezos wants to pay failing Buzzfeed and the NYT to expand their operations; translation: the government wants to subsidize two different “news” outlets – one targeting SWPLs and another targeting younger demographics – to report their propaganda and keep them from going out of business (Google already does this for left-wing Vox through YouTube billing a $20 million subsidy as funding “educational videos” while simultaneously deplatforming their conservative competition). The United States is going full police state. Think about that on Memorial Day when you’re waving those flags around; just what exactly are you celebrating?
A white weatherman got fired for stumbling during a sentence and it sounded like he said “Martin Luther Coon King”… obviously it was not deliberate but he was canned anyway when the black mayor had a demagogic fit.
https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2019/01/09/meteorologist-fired-video-jeremy-kappell-whec-rochester-weatherman-listen-what-said/2523402002/
https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2019/04/15/jeremy-kappell-meteorologist-lawsuit-video-fired-whec-news-channel-10-rochester-racial-slur-mlk/3476852002/
So 3 consecutive mayors of the same Sacred demographic were spectacular failures, but asking if another leadership demographic might be advisable is a firing offense. Got it.
It only more public figures were really that stupid.
I want to see all white women tarred as "racist Beckys" and expelled from work and school. Then they might say "screw that shit" and go back to marrying white men, bearing white children, and cutting eye-holes in white pillowcases.Replies: @TTSSYF
Agreed, but can we think of a better way to refer to such white women than by referring to them as “Beckys”? That term no doubt was created by the same people who foisted the kindergarten-level term “N-word” on us (which, by the way, I refuse to utter). I haven’t met any female who goes by “Becky” in my entire life.
She didn’t make a remark. She asked a question. The clearest sign of their inability to answer is their refusal to acknowledge the question. If the truth is on their side, why can’t they answer the question?
Her remarks were in fact pretty outrageous. The only way they make any sense is if you believe that incompetence and corruption are intractably endemic among African Americans.
That must be why they make sense to me.
Lots of interesting graphics.
Another way to gauge the city’s racial mix is using a diversity index, or the odds that two randomly selected people would differ by race or ethnicity. Using six racial/ethnic categories—Hispanics, plus non-Hispanic whites, blacks, American Indians, Asians and others—most of Baltimore scores relatively low on the index, further evidence of the city’s segregation. (Most of the areas of the city that rank in the top quintile on the index are sparsely populated and therefore overstate the neighborhood’s diversity.)
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/NA-CF643A_Bmore_16U_20150501162410.jpgReplies: @Mr McKenna, @YetAnotherAnon, @Achmed E. Newman, @Known Fact, @Steve in Greensboro
If you read James LaFond, a BadWhite who’s survived in Baltimore for decades (I think he finally got out six months ago) you’ll see why the segregation. This piece is by the only white guy in his particular hood.
https://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=10473
Thanks -- but I traveled from NYC to Wash DC once on the train -- after passing thru what I can only describe as one of the worst first world (we were in the US after all) urban shitholes I have ever seen, next time the conductor walked thru the car I asked him what city we'd just passed thru -- he said 'Baltimore' -- I was genuinely shocked by what I saw -- so I know why there's segregation.Replies: @eah
People need to get it in their heads that on many topics, race, JQ, and sexuality chief among them, American public discourse is childish, simple-minded and prone to hysteria, hamstrung by enough taboos and third rails to power all of Thailand, and with a hopelessly childish vocabulary for complex processes, so it is basically impossible to have a rational discussion about certain topics in a high-profile public setting like a TV show. It's not really permissible to ask or answer genuinely intelligent questions in such a forum. Best to just brush past them.
It's like the endlessly childish bit about "having a discussion about race". What on Earth could that possibly even mean? It's like saying we need to have a discussion about lungs. Be more specific please.Replies: @El Dato, @TTSSYF, @Jack D
So she broached the larger issue in a somewhat clumsy, imprecise way while speaking extemporaneously, and you call it stupid while, at the same time, (rightly) stating that “American public discourse is childish, simple-minded and prone to hysteria, hamstrung by enough taboos and third rails to power all of Thailand, and with a hopelessly childish vocabulary for complex processes, so it is basically impossible to have a rational discussion about certain topics in a high-profile public setting like a TV show.” If it’s “not really permissible to ask or answer genuinely intelligent questions in such a forum. Best to just brush past them”, where would you suggest we start? Maybe you think we should not start at all and merely sit back and point out how “stupid” white people are when they inquire clumsily and indirectly about a larger underlying issue and let them fall by the wayside?
“If Mary Bubala had been a man, she would have probably been allowed to make an on-air apology and keep her job.”
https://media.bizj.us/view/img/10605188/swain*480xx2330-3106-347-0.jpg
Her tweets are protected -- a natural question is: since when? -- Mom to Alexandra, Sister to Tim, Vice President & General Manager of WJZ at CBS Corporation, Baltimore Ravens season ticket holder since 2002, Duke fan for life
She apparently lives in 'North Baltimore', zip code 21210, which is 80% white (10% law-abiding Asians), and only about 6% black.
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/NA-CF638_Bmore_16U_20150501131209.jpgReplies: @The Wild Geese Howard
I’d love to meet the horny Boomer/early Xer that overpromoted this IQ 90 cupcake.
We have constant giveaways to unqualified, undeserving women and NAMs and people wonder why this country is falling apart?
Actually, it means exactly that.
she was fired immediately. she worked there for 18 years. she was good looking. she was well liked. she probably voted democrat in every election. none of it saved her.
it was insanely idiotic. i mean, you work in a news room. for decades. around dozens of democrats. hell, the news station is probably 90% democrats. you KNOW the rules. why on earth would you say that.
she finally got a new job over 2 years later on AM radio, a gigantic downgrade.Replies: @reiner Tor, @Nicholas Stix, @Mr. Anon, @Buffalo Joe
“it was insanely idiotic.”
It was heroically honest. FIFY
It's too bad about her career change. What in the Sam Hill is AM radio. I hear-tell that they modulate the amplitude of the carrier wave to produce the signal. WTF?, as the young 'uns say! How does that help the audience see her tits, you tell me?
We Have A Runner!Karsonya really, really, really wants a piece of that ongoing Genius Grant action.
Eventually, she'll figure out how to escalate without the escalator.
P.S.
What kind of Black Parenther would let their precious pickaninny growing up totally surrounded by the wild bunch of huwhitely privileged, but totally incompetent, devils who are not even capable of catching the miny moe by the toe... in more than an hour?
This was racism
She should never work again
This is why we need to hate speech laws
We do need to hate speech laws!
That was one of your more amusing ones.
You're a goddamn genius, TD! Wiser words have seldom been spoken.
More White Yuppies need to be made to live under Black administration.
No more enclaves.
Imagine what would happen if the last three mayors had been white men, of which two had resigned, and the city was in poor health. It would be a firing offense not to ask for the next mayor to have a different gender and race.
“Can anyone name just one example of someone saved by apologizing?”
China Joe was not only saved, he’s currently leading the pack.
If White people allow themselves to be shit on….they will be.
“Reporters” are PR staff for Woke Inc. Their job is to cater to corporate sponsors and the economic interests of whichever corporation owns their newsroom, saying nothing that would decrease business or reflect badly on current, status-quo economic or social conditions. Woke Inc. has run the numbers, determining that the Black demographic and their Woke white champions are the prevailing consumer group in such-in-such location, so the news is whatever they want to hear—whatever makes the premier consumer group feel good.
https://mediamythalert.com/
Woke is just the fashionable Cibbil Rites On Steroids mask (i.e., PC temple garb) for it all. The last thing the NewsDroids want anyone to realize is what courtesans they are...and the moment one of them breaks rank, it's the axe.
A manifestation of the depth of her groveling:
“I fully intend to fight to RESTORE [emphasis added] my reputation….”
It was heroically honest. FIFYReplies: @Achmed E. Newman, @L Woods, @bored identity
I’d like to believe that, Mr. Stix, but out of a Gov’t-Media personality? Nah, I stand in between your assessment and that of P.N. I think she was accidentally honest, as she was so tired of having spouted bullshit for 18 years on TV, that it just plain came out, with the usual hilarious results. If she wanted to take a real stand, she could have gone on a whole rant about it, knowing she’d be fired anyway, after that first sentence.
It’s too bad about her career change. What in the Sam Hill is AM radio. I hear-tell that they modulate the amplitude of the carrier wave to produce the signal. WTF?, as the young ‘uns say! How does that help the audience see her tits, you tell me?
WHITEhead!?! Her name is racissssss.
Seriously, people are still going around using that term? I don’t care, black, white, yellow, brown, vagina-toting, dick…, whatever, ABSOLUTELY NONE of these people “serve” the public. They serve themselves and, yes, they are pretty damn passionate about that.
Now you don’t worry your pretty little wise white head about it, Miss, … ohh, you’re Karsonya and you’re a PROFESSOR? OK, how high, Maam!?
No, not entirely. If it weren’t for the daily murders and areas going to rot we could call it entirely better. Not yet, though, give us 2 more black lady mayors and we’ll get there …
Yes, yes, she should have been more sophisticated and known just where the Overton Window would be at any given nanosecond, like a good citizen of globohomoutopia would have done,
... or we could just have freedom of speech.
Who is it who is really stupid here? The free-speaker? Or those who condemn her and defend their absence of freedom?
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I do blame her for stupidly apologizing, however. There she became the one who condemned herself and defended her absence of freedom. Besides being morally wrong, now she not only has no future in mainstream broadcasting, she has no future in edgy alternative media either.Replies: @c matt, @Known Fact, @JimDandy, @Abe
Agree. She should have just doubled down on her comments – simply asked rhetorically “has the city gotten better?”
That could have very well happened, the way some catty chicks are. Maybe there was something behind this, having nothing to do with the mayors of Baltimore or politics, more like about some guy at the station they both liked.
Speaking of catty, this could have turned out a whole lot better for WJZ’s ratings if they hadn’t turned the cameras off during the (I’m sure as hell hoping) ensuing cat fight.
Lots of interesting graphics.
Another way to gauge the city’s racial mix is using a diversity index, or the odds that two randomly selected people would differ by race or ethnicity. Using six racial/ethnic categories—Hispanics, plus non-Hispanic whites, blacks, American Indians, Asians and others—most of Baltimore scores relatively low on the index, further evidence of the city’s segregation. (Most of the areas of the city that rank in the top quintile on the index are sparsely populated and therefore overstate the neighborhood’s diversity.)
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Nice map, Eah. This one is right up in Bill Cosby’s wheelhouse:
“Whatever our color, let’s all try to get along, OK? Why don’t we pretend we are all green. Alright, folks, light green in the burbs, dark green in the back bay.”
I’m not going to look, but I wonder how many whites and fellow-whites are gleefully gloating about this on Twitter right now. My guess is: a lot.
It was heroically honest. FIFYReplies: @Achmed E. Newman, @L Woods, @bored identity
Given her groveling apology, that’s unlikely. She blundered over the line: negligence, not heroism.
The woman who fired her is a 43 year old white woman who has worked in broadcasting for 23 years (after cadging a degree from Penn State). The question you need to ask is why haut bourgeois whites are enforcing these witless rules.
Why is it socially advantageous? Because Diversity is the state religion. After that it gets pretty multi-factoral.
One thing I learned from living in DC was that most of the black residents don’t really care about the quality of life stuff that animates whites so long as one of their own is in charge, and it’s the same in Baltimore. DC had a parade of corrupt/stupid public officials on the council but all it took to keep their jobs was to portray any criticism as “they” are trying to keep a powerful black official down. Marion Barry not only managed a political comeback after jail, he was repeatedly re-elected to the city council despite a) more than once being caught with a woman who was not his wife, b) being caught with marijuana and cocaine, and c) clearly having mentally deteriorated to the point that he needed to be put in an assisted living facility. But his constituents knew whites hated the fact that he was still around and that was a good enough reason to keep pulling the lever for him.
In Baltimore’s defense, it’s quality of human capital is abysmal – DC has a lot of rough spots, but by virtue of being the capital there are still enough high income/high IQ people there that there is some check on the worst impulses of the underclass. Baltimore doesn’t have that and hasn’t devised an effective way to shove some of its least desirables into the adjacent suburban counties like DC has done to PG County. So to get elected, you still have to be viewed as ‘one of us’ by an electorate whose interests don’t necessarily align with urban renewal.
In re DC and PG County, both jurisdictions are safer than they were 25 years ago and all sections of PG County are safer than the black section of DC. There's been a general improvement in public order in and around Washington; it wasn't derived from moving problem people around.Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Jack D
NB, the incompetent and abusive state’s attorney in Baltimore was re-elected to her position in 2018. What’s sad about Baltimore is that the city has many assets, assets which have for nearly 60 years been inexpertly managed and are now being trashed. The problem there is that there are a great many quite useless people willing to run for public office, a dearth of capable people willing to run for public office, and an electorate that is indifferent to performance (provided you have black skin and a pulse beat).
In 1980, Baltimore and New York City had similar homicide rates. Now Baltimore’s exceeds NYC’s by a factor of 10 and is rival to Detroit’s. It all makes you wanna holler.
Good point.
HARPO is run by Oprah and it hasn’t failed, but its stock-in-trade is selling guilt for racism and easy redemption to bored white housewives.
Compare her to a white male entertainer with a net worth in the same ballpark— Paul McCartney.
The Beatles brought in a ton of money, but little of the money went to the band and in particular the song writers. In the 1970s he had the more savvy Eastman family handling his finances with Wings. Paul got a much bigger piece of the pie, and made much more money from Wings than the Beatles.
Meanwhile, the original inept management of Apple Records was replaced by more savvy management, including Yoko Ono (who also had the foresight to invest heavily in cheap 1970s New York real estate).
Meanwhile Oprah the Entertainer has generated a small fraction of the money Sir Paul did. Oprah was wise enough to get the whole pie plus a big chunk of many other entertainers’ pies.
Say what you want about Oprah and her companies. There are few people on the planet with more business savvy than Oprah.
Chicago recently elected a black female mayor. The question is not whether there are any black females in Chicago who can run the city competently. We know of at least one. The question is whether the particular black female recently elected can do a decent job. We won’t know the answer for a while.Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Achmed E. Newman, @Art Deco
2. The new mayor Baltimore needs is a guy named Draco. However, he died several thousand years ago, and his name is used to smear good governance.Replies: @Art Deco, @Known Fact
Baltimore City would benefit if its elected officials were removed and the place put under the administration of a state trusteeship. They do that with mobbed-up union locals now and again.
In Baltimore's defense, it's quality of human capital is abysmal - DC has a lot of rough spots, but by virtue of being the capital there are still enough high income/high IQ people there that there is some check on the worst impulses of the underclass. Baltimore doesn't have that and hasn't devised an effective way to shove some of its least desirables into the adjacent suburban counties like DC has done to PG County. So to get elected, you still have to be viewed as 'one of us' by an electorate whose interests don't necessarily align with urban renewal.Replies: @Art Deco
Actually, the per capita income of the city is only about 10% below national means. That for the four counties making up greater Baltimore is about 15% above national means. Plenty of human capital in and around Baltimore.
In re DC and PG County, both jurisdictions are safer than they were 25 years ago and all sections of PG County are safer than the black section of DC. There’s been a general improvement in public order in and around Washington; it wasn’t derived from moving problem people around.
Because it’s socially advantageous to enforce them.
Why is it socially advantageous? Because Diversity is the state religion. After that it gets pretty multi-factoral.
Even if Baltimore had a white mayor , as they did from 1999-2007 , the City will remain poor and Black. The last GOP mayor of Baltimore was elected in 1963 and decided not to run for re-election.
she could have worded it differently and still got most of her point across.
“We’ve had 9 Democratic mayors in a row,”….“They were all passionate public servants. Four resigned, though. Is this a signal that a different kind of leadership is needed to move Baltimore City forward?”
but the media talking heads rarely seem to find any fault with Democratic mayors nor due they see any connection between Democratic controlling a city the livability of the city.
I don’t know. I think “TV Tori” might be slightly better.
And…one more white person leaves Baltimore.
People need to get it in their heads that on many topics, race, JQ, and sexuality chief among them, American public discourse is childish, simple-minded and prone to hysteria, hamstrung by enough taboos and third rails to power all of Thailand, and with a hopelessly childish vocabulary for complex processes, so it is basically impossible to have a rational discussion about certain topics in a high-profile public setting like a TV show. It's not really permissible to ask or answer genuinely intelligent questions in such a forum. Best to just brush past them.
It's like the endlessly childish bit about "having a discussion about race". What on Earth could that possibly even mean? It's like saying we need to have a discussion about lungs. Be more specific please.Replies: @El Dato, @TTSSYF, @Jack D
I disagree. The fish stinks from the head. Leadership can make a difference – Baltimore is a troubled place but the right leaders can put it on an upward path or at least stem the decline while bad leadership can speed the circling of the drain.
It’s a valid question as to why 2 of the last 3 Baltimore mayors have had to resign due to corruption. You’re right that there are not too many Thatchers in Baltimore politics but is it asking too much to find one that is not corrupt? Lots of American cities have had black mayors but having CORRUPT black mayors seems to be reserved for the biggest shitholes – Atlantic City, Camden, Detroit, etc. What is it about extremely poor cities that encourages corrupt government?
As Oliver Wendell Holmes once said, “three generations of idiots are enough.”
That’s what they did in NJ with corrupt cities – Camden, Atlantic City, etc.
People should file a complaint with City Hall. If they could, that is:
I wonder who let the virus in. Or is it unacceptable in the current year to ask that question?
In re DC and PG County, both jurisdictions are safer than they were 25 years ago and all sections of PG County are safer than the black section of DC. There's been a general improvement in public order in and around Washington; it wasn't derived from moving problem people around.Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Jack D
Translation: a lot of productive white people still work in Baltimore but don’t live there. Because the city is circling the drain and becoming an urban no-go zone. It’s the same story with a lot of black majority cities or cities that are headed that way (Memphis, Birmingham, Atlanta, Cleveland, etc.), your sillly pollyanna-ish happy-talk not withstanding.
I’m so old that I remember when positing these kinds of questions was called “journalism.”
In re DC and PG County, both jurisdictions are safer than they were 25 years ago and all sections of PG County are safer than the black section of DC. There's been a general improvement in public order in and around Washington; it wasn't derived from moving problem people around.Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Jack D
Blacks have incomes that are much higher than they should be because so many of them have government jobs for which they are overpaid and under-qualified. If you took away government employment and AA sinecures, black incomes in Baltimore would be very grim. One of the reasons why blacks in Baltimore are so determined to have black mayors, no matter how corrupt, is that black leadership ensures that government jobs (and various grants to “non-profits”, charter schools, etc.) will keep flowing into the black community and employing people who have no hope of earning comparable incomes in the private sector. Just as incompetence and corruption is no bar to being the mayor of Baltimore so long as you are black, it is no bar at any level.
Also national averages are deceptive. Baltimore is in the expensive NE Corridor and incomes should be compared with other NE cities, not with Sioux City, Iowa.
About 6.5% of the black workforce is found in 'public administration' per the Bureau of Labor Statistics (v. 4.5% for non-blacks). About 2.5% work for the Postal Service, transit services, and Amtrak. Roughly 0.6% work for water authorities and municipal gas and electric. About 7.2% work for school districts or in public higher education. Roughly 0.5% work for state-run long-term care centers. About 1.6% work in miscellaneous social services (some of which are philanthropic rather than state run). That sums to about 19% of the black workforce (v. about 15% of the non-black workforce). IIRC, compensation in public employment exceeds that in private-sector employment by about 12% on average. So, it's a reasonable guess that black wage-and-salary income is boosted by about 0.5% by this phenomenon.Replies: @Jack D, @International Jew
No, it's not deceptive. Large cities have a different amenity mix than smaller cities, which responds to the utility functions of their inhabitants.Replies: @Jack D
Without government jobs, the black middle class would be very small indeed.
she was fired immediately. she worked there for 18 years. she was good looking. she was well liked. she probably voted democrat in every election. none of it saved her.
it was insanely idiotic. i mean, you work in a news room. for decades. around dozens of democrats. hell, the news station is probably 90% democrats. you KNOW the rules. why on earth would you say that.
she finally got a new job over 2 years later on AM radio, a gigantic downgrade.Replies: @reiner Tor, @Nicholas Stix, @Mr. Anon, @Buffalo Joe
Because it’s true? That’s one reason for saying it.
I live outside of Columbus, Ohio and at least three times in the past 25 years the schools have gone through this cycle of installing black leadership, then bringing in white leadership after scandal/corruption/miserable performance to fix things. The cycle has begun again with a new black woman as superintendent of schools (the last one resigned because there was widespread cheating on performance and attendance metrics) Clock to meltdown set to 3, maybe 4 years.
Yeah, the question in question was vague and pathetically sugar-coated — it’s not like she said, “Can we please just find a white guy already?”
Lots of interesting graphics.
Another way to gauge the city’s racial mix is using a diversity index, or the odds that two randomly selected people would differ by race or ethnicity. Using six racial/ethnic categories—Hispanics, plus non-Hispanic whites, blacks, American Indians, Asians and others—most of Baltimore scores relatively low on the index, further evidence of the city’s segregation. (Most of the areas of the city that rank in the top quintile on the index are sparsely populated and therefore overstate the neighborhood’s diversity.)
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/NA-CF643A_Bmore_16U_20150501162410.jpgReplies: @Mr McKenna, @YetAnotherAnon, @Achmed E. Newman, @Known Fact, @Steve in Greensboro
The chronic shortage of American Indians is clearly the problem here
Memo to Broadcast Becky:
You may not suggest something so lacking in charm in Charm City.
“We’ve had three white male mayors in a row. Two resigned, though. Is this a signal that a different kind of leadership is needed to move the City forward?”
Any black anchorwoman going to get fired for asking that question?
Chicago has a black woman as mayor, and the the other two city positions are filled by a black women. Chicago will fall apart. This, of course, will be blamed on “institutional racism.”
2. The new mayor Baltimore needs is a guy named Draco. However, he died several thousand years ago, and his name is used to smear good governance.Replies: @Art Deco, @Known Fact
Even Draco from Harry Potter would be an improvement
It's wrong to be flippant about this -- the woman lost her job, which is a serious matter -- perhaps even more serious is that, given the nature of her (umm) offense, she may have a great deal of trouble getting another one -- this is simply not right -- debatably worse is the way Whites feel compelled to throw away whatever dignity they have left by issuing groveling, ritualistic apologies that bring nothing.
https://twitter.com/MaryWJZ/status/1124409897003700224Replies: @eah, @reiner Tor, @Moses, @Kyle, @MBlanc46
Sincere apology?
No, this is an admission of guilt. That’s how the Blacks and SJWs see it.
Apologies don’t work against SJWs. Ever. It’s like throwing chum in the water with sharks. Just works them into a feeding frenzy.
Czech or Polish.
The publishing industry has largely become one big political money-laundering operation; she just got too greedy
Yes, yes, she should have been more sophisticated and known just where the Overton Window would be at any given nanosecond, like a good citizen of globohomoutopia would have done,
... or we could just have freedom of speech.
Who is it who is really stupid here? The free-speaker? Or those who condemn her and defend their absence of freedom?
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I do blame her for stupidly apologizing, however. There she became the one who condemned herself and defended her absence of freedom. Besides being morally wrong, now she not only has no future in mainstream broadcasting, she has no future in edgy alternative media either.Replies: @c matt, @Known Fact, @JimDandy, @Abe
The groveling apology may have been a mandatory feature of her severance agreement
This all would make a side-splitting Mary Tyler Moore Show episode
Easy – they want the wolves to eat them last.
That’s not how it works nowadays – have any of the MeTooed guys been brought back? The fired employee will be unemployed for a few years and then maybe she’ll get a job on a small station in Iowa for much lower pay . It doesn’t matter if 50% of the viewers love her if 20% hate her guts and are going to hold noisy demonstrations in front of the station. Station managers want a quiet life, not to be called racists.
Publishing a ” children’s book” or a “biography” and “selling” large quantities of it as a way of receiving graft is not an original scheme at all. It’s been done before. As a low IQ lowlife, she did it in a sort of clumsy way and got caught but high profile Dem politicians have been doing this legally for years so they are all millionaires from book sales, even the “socialists”.
Just a different level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he2CebV5MLAReplies: @RonaldB
If you go by this clip, the news is filled with attractive, bubble-headed, estrogen-loaded black women who think being black makes their stupid slavery platitudes interesting or deep thinking.
Blacks have incomes that are much higher than they should be because so many of them have government jobs for which they are overpaid and under-qualified. I
About 6.5% of the black workforce is found in ‘public administration’ per the Bureau of Labor Statistics (v. 4.5% for non-blacks). About 2.5% work for the Postal Service, transit services, and Amtrak. Roughly 0.6% work for water authorities and municipal gas and electric. About 7.2% work for school districts or in public higher education. Roughly 0.5% work for state-run long-term care centers. About 1.6% work in miscellaneous social services (some of which are philanthropic rather than state run). That sums to about 19% of the black workforce (v. about 15% of the non-black workforce). IIRC, compensation in public employment exceeds that in private-sector employment by about 12% on average. So, it’s a reasonable guess that black wage-and-salary income is boosted by about 0.5% by this phenomenon.
I’ve been to Baltimore twice – approximately 25 years apart and both times to the “Inner Harbor.”
The first time was a school trip when Camden Yards and the “Inner Harbor” and Aquarium area had just been redeveloped into a tourist attraction.
The second time was a few years ago on a road trip with a buddy coming back from a golf tournament in the DC area.
I have to say it is underwhelming nowadays. Years ago the Inner Harbor had some promise, but now it’s rather run down and you get the sense that you’re just on the edge of Fort Apache where anything could happen the instant the sun goes down. There’s a definite visible police presence during the day.
It’s a real shame, since the Inner Harbor area has the feel of a quintessentially American space with the colonial architecture and federal brick style of the buildings. Even the decommissioned commercial buildings repurposed for retail and whatnot are interesting and seem to fit. It could be a sort of larger Annapolis, but it isn’t and probably will never be now.
Also national averages are deceptive. Baltimore is in the expensive NE Corridor and incomes should be compared with other NE cities, not with Sioux City, Iowa.
No, it’s not deceptive. Large cities have a different amenity mix than smaller cities, which responds to the utility functions of their inhabitants.
About 6.5% of the black workforce is found in 'public administration' per the Bureau of Labor Statistics (v. 4.5% for non-blacks). About 2.5% work for the Postal Service, transit services, and Amtrak. Roughly 0.6% work for water authorities and municipal gas and electric. About 7.2% work for school districts or in public higher education. Roughly 0.5% work for state-run long-term care centers. About 1.6% work in miscellaneous social services (some of which are philanthropic rather than state run). That sums to about 19% of the black workforce (v. about 15% of the non-black workforce). IIRC, compensation in public employment exceeds that in private-sector employment by about 12% on average. So, it's a reasonable guess that black wage-and-salary income is boosted by about 0.5% by this phenomenon.Replies: @Jack D, @International Jew
I think .5% is way way low. Look at the ex-mayoress of Baltimore. She was making $185K salary plus all she could steal. In the absence of affirmative action / massive government thumb on the scale she would be cleaning white people’s houses for $10/hr like her grandma probably did.
No, it's not deceptive. Large cities have a different amenity mix than smaller cities, which responds to the utility functions of their inhabitants.Replies: @Jack D
This is double talk. If you earn a “national average” income in a high cost region like the Northeast you are really earning a below average income in terms of purchasing power parity.
“Broadcast Becky” may be catchier but the taxonomic name “News Conc” caught on a bit among my circle in Silicon Valley during the DotCon era. I had been pointing out the phenomenon of Corporate Concubines which, in SV, generally took the form of Fortune 500 middle management types lording it over grunt programmers being replaced by H-1bs. Local news organizations aren’t as flush with economic rent in general but they do seem to be subject to some of the dynamics in the sense that the top-dog national anchors are rarely women but the lower tier news anchors are rarely without their News Concs.
It's wrong to be flippant about this -- the woman lost her job, which is a serious matter -- perhaps even more serious is that, given the nature of her (umm) offense, she may have a great deal of trouble getting another one -- this is simply not right -- debatably worse is the way Whites feel compelled to throw away whatever dignity they have left by issuing groveling, ritualistic apologies that bring nothing.
https://twitter.com/MaryWJZ/status/1124409897003700224Replies: @eah, @reiner Tor, @Moses, @Kyle, @MBlanc46
It isn’t difficult to get a job. She can pick up a shovel.
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They always grovel and apologize. It never helps but they do it anyway.
She was likely aware that groveling would not help her keep her job or land another one. This is for personal protection. After many years on TV, she must be a very recognizable figure in that market. If she does not receive absolution, she could be terrified of ever leaving her house again.Replies: @William Badwhite
Apologizing when you didn’t make a mistake is akin to walking into a lion’s den in a suit of raw meat.
Probably from Minnesota.
Be careful Steve. That Professor of Angry Blackness will get you fired or shut down or something.
Great title though. There’s a hint of cargo cultism there as well.
Which organizations are run by black women? Maybe some black churches.
I really don’t think Baltimore is a mess because of its mayors. The rot goes all the way up and down. Tell me which white, male mayor is going to fix anything. It would still be a left-wing, excuse-everthing Democrat.
How soon before angry Black ladies offer a Chinese style final solution to Whiteness?
In Xinaxing almost all male Uighurs are in camps. Forced marriages between Uighur women and Chinese men solves the problem.
Of course fortunately Black women already don’t like competition.
Oprah is an extremely savvy business woman.
Compare her to a white male entertainer with a net worth in the same ballpark— Paul McCartney.
The Beatles brought in a ton of money, but little of the money went to the band and in particular the song writers. In the 1970s he had the more savvy Eastman family handling his finances with Wings. Paul got a much bigger piece of the pie, and made much more money from Wings than the Beatles.
Meanwhile, the original inept management of Apple Records was replaced by more savvy management, including Yoko Ono (who also had the foresight to invest heavily in cheap 1970s New York real estate).
Meanwhile Oprah the Entertainer has generated a small fraction of the money Sir Paul did. Oprah was wise enough to get the whole pie plus a big chunk of many other entertainers’ pies.
Say what you want about Oprah and her companies. There are few people on the planet with more business savvy than Oprah.
Chicago recently elected a black female mayor. The question is not whether there are any black females in Chicago who can run the city competently. We know of at least one. The question is whether the particular black female recently elected can do a decent job. We won’t know the answer for a while.
B) So what about Oprah? That is her own money. It does sound like she's very smart about it and not impulsive like lots of the high-paid black athletes. We are not talking about Okra's money were she the mayor of Chicago. That's the big difference, P.L. Many people don't give a damn how they waste OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY, be they any race or ethnicity, but especially black.* As a quote-Liberal-unquote, you may really not understand this, but that's the essence of what's wrong with Socialism. Maggie Thatcher had a nice quote on that.
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* Just see what happens when you have an item at the store that doesn't scan or what have you. If it's a white cashier, she will go through a procedure (holding everybody up to find the price of 4 wood screws). A black one, 90% of the time, just doesn't give a crap about the stores's money. That can be good, I gotta admit, for someone just trying to get out of the store to do some work.Replies: @Paleo Liberal
Charity is not fantasy. Both of those women in the run-off are known quantities, as is the state's attorney. And they exemplify contemporary problems in regard to the political culture of the black bourgeoisie. What matters to these women is considerations of status. Greater Chicago has four islands within it which suffer from severe social problems. Collectively, about 12% of the population of the whole lives in those four settlements. Acknowledging the problems and crafting an implementing a response acknowledges that a critical mass of the population of those four areas is troublesome and that to address that trouble you require the application of fixed standards of conduct, deterrence, punishment, and incapacitation. This is unacceptable, because it is status-lowering for blacks. Status-enhancing poses have two components: public policies which pretend the problems of blacks are rooted in the misconduct / neglect of whites; and public policies which extend immunity to blacks (it being unacceptable that blacks be held accountable by the sort of white peasants you see in police uniforms, or be interrupted in the course of claiming public space for themselves through menacing, jaywalking, snatch-and-grab larceny, and miscellaneous disorderly conduct). A more reserved and benign manifestation of this phenomenon could be seen in Catherine Pugh, whose idea of a response to Baltimore's crime problem was more spending on community colleges (it being unacceptable to respond to a problem by any means other than giving people stuff).
A critic who read TN Coates memoir remarked that he's past 20 'ere you encounter an instance of any white person doing the slightest injury to him, and in that case it was someone being rude to his kid on an escalator. What he knows of whites is that they're getting cheekier every day.Replies: @J.Ross
Yes, yes, she should have been more sophisticated and known just where the Overton Window would be at any given nanosecond, like a good citizen of globohomoutopia would have done,
... or we could just have freedom of speech.
Who is it who is really stupid here? The free-speaker? Or those who condemn her and defend their absence of freedom?
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I do blame her for stupidly apologizing, however. There she became the one who condemned herself and defended her absence of freedom. Besides being morally wrong, now she not only has no future in mainstream broadcasting, she has no future in edgy alternative media either.Replies: @c matt, @Known Fact, @JimDandy, @Abe
If she was suddenly making the decision to become a Steve Sailer- or Jim Goad- level truthteller, consequences be damned, then no, it was not a stupid move. I tend to think she liked her job, though. But I could be wrong.
Sounds ridiculous. Orwell was not the banning type. Do you have any links, citations, sources?
In "Anti-Semitism in Britain" (1945, linked here: http://www.telelib.com/authors/O/OrwellGeorge/essay/England/antisemitism.html ) Orwell's tirade is largely about nationalism; it is almost as a side matter that he complains:Whether one shares his distaste for nationalism or not, Orwell is at least consistent when he concludes:
I should censor myself as part of the fight against censorship, eh? Gotchya.
Bernie spent several hundred thousand dollars of campaign contributions on his own books. There was a Texas congressman, Jim Wright IIRC, who went down for this in the early 90s.
See, some do the “heavy lifting” and speak truth to power.
The MSM, the biggest hate group in America, in full glory: the TV arm of the MSM and the university arm as represented by the “professoress”.
Or learn to code. I hear that’s a hot market.
“Bubala” is a term of endearment in Yiddish. It means “little doll”.
It’s fun to joke about these things, and I appreciate Steve’s humor, but when you think about it, it’s incredibly sad to see this great country succumbing to a reign of terror.
When she mentioned the mayoresses’ blackness, she meant it as a positive! It was like saying, “Our last three mayors all graduated first in their class at Yale Law School, and yet Baltimore still has problems…”
I’m certain that’s how she meant it; if she had any race-realist thoughts in her pretty little head, she wouldn’t have lasted twenty years in journolism.
But the vultures heard it the way someone on this blog might have put it: “After three stupid, incompetent and corrupt mayors, maybe it’s time for a new approach.”
Near the end of this video, the hosts display a postcard from an Uzbek. Whoever does their closed captioning spelled this variously as “who’s Beck”, etc. They even wrote “Becky Stan” once.
Beckystan. How perfect is that?
(In these “fan” videos, the host, who’s apparently of Portuguese ancestry, apologizes for any mistakes he made in the regular video on that country. Weirdly, here he neglects to apologize for pronouncing J and X in Mozambican names in the Spanish fashion. Either no viewers complained, or he was too mortified to admit it.)
She should never work again
This is why we need to hate speech lawsReplies: @Peripatetic Commenter, @Alfa158, @Ron Mexico
Well, Tiny D*ck, you sometimes do say the right things.
We do need to hate speech laws!
Not entirely changed for the better? Two were crooks and the third one wanted to give rioters the freedom to destroy and loot the city. The war on noticing continues…
any links, citations, sources?
In “Anti-Semitism in Britain” (1945, linked here: http://www.telelib.com/authors/O/OrwellGeorge/essay/England/antisemitism.html ) Orwell’s tirade is largely about nationalism; it is almost as a side matter that he complains:
Whether one shares his distaste for nationalism or not, Orwell is at least consistent when he concludes:
Yes, yes, she should have been more sophisticated and known just where the Overton Window would be at any given nanosecond, like a good citizen of globohomoutopia would have done,
... or we could just have freedom of speech.
Who is it who is really stupid here? The free-speaker? Or those who condemn her and defend their absence of freedom?
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I do blame her for stupidly apologizing, however. There she became the one who condemned herself and defended her absence of freedom. Besides being morally wrong, now she not only has no future in mainstream broadcasting, she has no future in edgy alternative media either.Replies: @c matt, @Known Fact, @JimDandy, @Abe
And not a single white man stands up to defend her honor (or the honor of the British woman who several years ago realized her country was becoming a sh!thole, had a public meltdown on a bus over it, and then forewitth got a visit from the Ministry of Love).
It’s honestly a miracle as many white women are as based as they are, given our derilection of duty.
Dunno, those TV bimbettes with their perfect hair and toned arms in tight sleeveless dresses seem pretty interchangeable to me.
“We’ve had three male, white-American mayors in a row,” Bubala said in setting up her question. “They were all passionate public servants. Two resigned, though. Is this a signal that a different kind of leadership is needed to move Baltimore City forward?”
no issues and nods of agreement followed by no fucks given.
About 6.5% of the black workforce is found in 'public administration' per the Bureau of Labor Statistics (v. 4.5% for non-blacks). About 2.5% work for the Postal Service, transit services, and Amtrak. Roughly 0.6% work for water authorities and municipal gas and electric. About 7.2% work for school districts or in public higher education. Roughly 0.5% work for state-run long-term care centers. About 1.6% work in miscellaneous social services (some of which are philanthropic rather than state run). That sums to about 19% of the black workforce (v. about 15% of the non-black workforce). IIRC, compensation in public employment exceeds that in private-sector employment by about 12% on average. So, it's a reasonable guess that black wage-and-salary income is boosted by about 0.5% by this phenomenon.Replies: @Jack D, @International Jew
That’s interesting. Could you link to your source?
You have to do some interpolating because it doesn't explicitly categorize sectoral employees as public and private bar differentiating 'public administration' from other industries. It does have separate line items for the postal service, urban transit, primary and secondary schooling (90%+ public), higher education (75%+ public), water authorities and sewage treatment, gas and electric (25% public &c).Replies: @International Jew
I am still waiting for one of them to title their book My Struggle.
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This was a comment I meant to reply to earlier, Jack. That is absolutely right. Where I live 65-75% of the employees of any city, county, state or Fed bldg. offices are black, in contrary to the Art-Deco-Instant-Internet. I will make an exemption for IT people, road/traffic engineers, and anybody else who’s got to do some real thinking.
Without government jobs, the black middle class would be very small indeed.
Compare her to a white male entertainer with a net worth in the same ballpark— Paul McCartney.
The Beatles brought in a ton of money, but little of the money went to the band and in particular the song writers. In the 1970s he had the more savvy Eastman family handling his finances with Wings. Paul got a much bigger piece of the pie, and made much more money from Wings than the Beatles.
Meanwhile, the original inept management of Apple Records was replaced by more savvy management, including Yoko Ono (who also had the foresight to invest heavily in cheap 1970s New York real estate).
Meanwhile Oprah the Entertainer has generated a small fraction of the money Sir Paul did. Oprah was wise enough to get the whole pie plus a big chunk of many other entertainers’ pies.
Say what you want about Oprah and her companies. There are few people on the planet with more business savvy than Oprah.
Chicago recently elected a black female mayor. The question is not whether there are any black females in Chicago who can run the city competently. We know of at least one. The question is whether the particular black female recently elected can do a decent job. We won’t know the answer for a while.Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Achmed E. Newman, @Art Deco
Are you of the opinion that savvy in the entertainment industry would replicate itself in, say, the oil and gas industry or real estate development? I very much doubt it myself.
I suppose this is factually correct but do you really believe that had the club-playing The Beatles played hardball negotiators with the record companies in the 1960s that they ever would have become the popular band that they eventually did? I’m of the view that the record companies would have simply moved on to Gerry and the Pacemakers or whatever and promoted them to stardom instead. Is there really a straight line from singing She Loves You (Ya Ya Ya) to A Day in the Life? All of those bands sounded fairly similar at the outset.
Later on they had considerably more clout, and blew it. The deals they made concerning Apple Records and Apple Corps almost bankrupted the Beatles. As much as Paul hated Let It Be, the money they made from the album and the movie kept them afloat. Paul criticized the deal the other 3 made with Allen Klein as well, which Paul refused to sign, officially breaking up the Beatles in the process.
The difference is, when Oprah had enough clout to set up Harpo, she made a mint. Apple lost a mint.
Compare her to a white male entertainer with a net worth in the same ballpark— Paul McCartney.
The Beatles brought in a ton of money, but little of the money went to the band and in particular the song writers. In the 1970s he had the more savvy Eastman family handling his finances with Wings. Paul got a much bigger piece of the pie, and made much more money from Wings than the Beatles.
Meanwhile, the original inept management of Apple Records was replaced by more savvy management, including Yoko Ono (who also had the foresight to invest heavily in cheap 1970s New York real estate).
Meanwhile Oprah the Entertainer has generated a small fraction of the money Sir Paul did. Oprah was wise enough to get the whole pie plus a big chunk of many other entertainers’ pies.
Say what you want about Oprah and her companies. There are few people on the planet with more business savvy than Oprah.
Chicago recently elected a black female mayor. The question is not whether there are any black females in Chicago who can run the city competently. We know of at least one. The question is whether the particular black female recently elected can do a decent job. We won’t know the answer for a while.Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Achmed E. Newman, @Art Deco
A) I didn’t know that about Yoko Ono. She can invest the money any way she wants, as long as she DOES NOT SING!
B) So what about Oprah? That is her own money. It does sound like she’s very smart about it and not impulsive like lots of the high-paid black athletes. We are not talking about Okra’s money were she the mayor of Chicago. That’s the big difference, P.L. Many people don’t give a damn how they waste OTHER PEOPLE’S MONEY, be they any race or ethnicity, but especially black.* As a quote-Liberal-unquote, you may really not understand this, but that’s the essence of what’s wrong with Socialism. Maggie Thatcher had a nice quote on that.
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* Just see what happens when you have an item at the store that doesn’t scan or what have you. If it’s a white cashier, she will go through a procedure (holding everybody up to find the price of 4 wood screws). A black one, 90% of the time, just doesn’t give a crap about the stores’s money. That can be good, I gotta admit, for someone just trying to get out of the store to do some work.
Perhaps he had left a number of them in the toilet. Some of those political biographies are really hard to get through. It’s easier when you’re constipated.
Lots of interesting graphics.
Another way to gauge the city’s racial mix is using a diversity index, or the odds that two randomly selected people would differ by race or ethnicity. Using six racial/ethnic categories—Hispanics, plus non-Hispanic whites, blacks, American Indians, Asians and others—most of Baltimore scores relatively low on the index, further evidence of the city’s segregation. (Most of the areas of the city that rank in the top quintile on the index are sparsely populated and therefore overstate the neighborhood’s diversity.)
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/NA-CF643A_Bmore_16U_20150501162410.jpgReplies: @Mr McKenna, @YetAnotherAnon, @Achmed E. Newman, @Known Fact, @Steve in Greensboro
According to the 2010 census, Baltimore was 68% colored (64% black, 4% Latino). With those demographics, corrupt and incompetent municipal leadership is pretty much all one can expect.
Miss Bubala’s question: “Is [the history of municipal corruption] a signal that a different kind of leadership is needed to move Baltimore City forward?”
Of course Baltimore needs a different kind of leadership, but it has no chance of getting it. This is why Zimbabwe is the way it is, why South Africa is headed towards Zimbabwe-status and why the talented tenth in America get as far away from their co-ethnics as they can.
But Sailer’s “war on noticing” operates viciously among our “elites”. If she wanted to keep her job, she should not have given voice to the obvious.
But why would any self-respecting person want to work in the legacy media?
The thing about blacks is that they have a master-slave method of being. That is, you’re either a master or a slave. You’re either a queen or a subject. There is a reason why African slavery was first and foremost an African institution, while slavery did not exist in Europe.
The European way is equality, ie the fighting men of the Germanic tribes would force their leader to fight alongside them to prove he was worthy to lead. It is why labor unions are deeply European in a way that isn’t possible elsewhere.
Africans aren’t interested in equality. They simply take advantage of the surrounding norms to argue along lines which appeal to the predominant culture’s sense of honor, but inherently they are not an egalitarian culture.
The Anglo-Caribbean countries have passably ordered and durable parliamentary systems.
In Tropical Africa over the last generation, the mode has been competing patron-client networks or a dominant network in a pluralist landscape. About 2/3 of Tropical Africa's heads of state came out of their country's business and professional classes and were neither soldiers nor partisans. (Some of the soldiers and partisans work through electoral systems, btw).
Spelman College hasn’t failed. Neither has Johnson Publishing.
What do you mean by ‘organization’? You want an inventory of small businesses owned by black women?
https://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat18.htm
You have to do some interpolating because it doesn’t explicitly categorize sectoral employees as public and private bar differentiating ‘public administration’ from other industries. It does have separate line items for the postal service, urban transit, primary and secondary schooling (90%+ public), higher education (75%+ public), water authorities and sewage treatment, gas and electric (25% public &c).
Compare her to a white male entertainer with a net worth in the same ballpark— Paul McCartney.
The Beatles brought in a ton of money, but little of the money went to the band and in particular the song writers. In the 1970s he had the more savvy Eastman family handling his finances with Wings. Paul got a much bigger piece of the pie, and made much more money from Wings than the Beatles.
Meanwhile, the original inept management of Apple Records was replaced by more savvy management, including Yoko Ono (who also had the foresight to invest heavily in cheap 1970s New York real estate).
Meanwhile Oprah the Entertainer has generated a small fraction of the money Sir Paul did. Oprah was wise enough to get the whole pie plus a big chunk of many other entertainers’ pies.
Say what you want about Oprah and her companies. There are few people on the planet with more business savvy than Oprah.
Chicago recently elected a black female mayor. The question is not whether there are any black females in Chicago who can run the city competently. We know of at least one. The question is whether the particular black female recently elected can do a decent job. We won’t know the answer for a while.Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Achmed E. Newman, @Art Deco
We won’t know the answer for a while.
Charity is not fantasy. Both of those women in the run-off are known quantities, as is the state’s attorney. And they exemplify contemporary problems in regard to the political culture of the black bourgeoisie. What matters to these women is considerations of status. Greater Chicago has four islands within it which suffer from severe social problems. Collectively, about 12% of the population of the whole lives in those four settlements. Acknowledging the problems and crafting an implementing a response acknowledges that a critical mass of the population of those four areas is troublesome and that to address that trouble you require the application of fixed standards of conduct, deterrence, punishment, and incapacitation. This is unacceptable, because it is status-lowering for blacks. Status-enhancing poses have two components: public policies which pretend the problems of blacks are rooted in the misconduct / neglect of whites; and public policies which extend immunity to blacks (it being unacceptable that blacks be held accountable by the sort of white peasants you see in police uniforms, or be interrupted in the course of claiming public space for themselves through menacing, jaywalking, snatch-and-grab larceny, and miscellaneous disorderly conduct). A more reserved and benign manifestation of this phenomenon could be seen in Catherine Pugh, whose idea of a response to Baltimore’s crime problem was more spending on community colleges (it being unacceptable to respond to a problem by any means other than giving people stuff).
A critic who read TN Coates memoir remarked that he’s past 20 ‘ere you encounter an instance of any white person doing the slightest injury to him, and in that case it was someone being rude to his kid on an escalator. What he knows of whites is that they’re getting cheekier every day.
I really don't think Baltimore is a mess because of its mayors. The rot goes all the way up and down. Tell me which white, male mayor is going to fix anything. It would still be a left-wing, excuse-everthing Democrat.Replies: @Art Deco
The city was able to at least tread water under Wm. Donald Schaefer. The crew at the Manhattan Institute were hoping Martin O’Malley would make an effort to turn things around, but he proved to be Business-as-Usual. I don’t think the municipal politicians will ever be fit for much other than passing the budget for some mundane city services like trash collection. The city doesn’t have the tax base to provide a properly staffed police force and people like Mosby and Pugh wouldn’t know what to do with it if they had it. Law enforcement is an activity that has to be reassigned to a superordinate authority.
She was likely aware that groveling would not help her keep her job or land another one. This is for personal protection. After many years on TV, she must be a very recognizable figure in that market. If she does not receive absolution, she could be terrified of ever leaving her house again.
https://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=10473Replies: @eah
If you read James LaFond
Thanks — but I traveled from NYC to Wash DC once on the train — after passing thru what I can only describe as one of the worst first world (we were in the US after all) urban shitholes I have ever seen, next time the conductor walked thru the car I asked him what city we’d just passed thru — he said ‘Baltimore’ — I was genuinely shocked by what I saw — so I know why there’s segregation.
http://johnsantic.com/cruising/nyc/DSC08483a_m1.jpgReplies: @Art Deco, @YetAnotherAnon
Thanks -- but I traveled from NYC to Wash DC once on the train -- after passing thru what I can only describe as one of the worst first world (we were in the US after all) urban shitholes I have ever seen, next time the conductor walked thru the car I asked him what city we'd just passed thru -- he said 'Baltimore' -- I was genuinely shocked by what I saw -- so I know why there's segregation.Replies: @eah
Beautiful downtown Baltimore, Maryland, just before we got to the station. As decrepit as the boarded-up buildings look, one of them had a couple of DirecTV satellite dishes on the roof. Click on the picture to see a bigger version; use your browser’s “back” command to return here.
2. Those are the rear ends of row houses. In the rest of the city, they're adjacent to alleys. They're not generally all that aesthetically pleasing. The handsome aspect is facing the street.
LaFond is an entertaining read if you like to read of low and dangerous adventure without being in it yourself. He's what I suppose you'd call a race realist and not PC at all, but he obviously gets on well and is friends with many black people, be they Americans or Nigerian immigrants. I've quoted one of his informants on the differences between Igbo, Hausa and Fulani.
Here's a tale from the riots of April 2015 - taxi driver saves clueless yuppie woman from major unpleasantness.
https://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2300
Why are white people still in Baltimore.
I understand the “don’t give ground” attitude. And i certainly understand the gentrification–take back our high quality real estate!–push.
But AFAICT this has failed in Baltimore. White people continue to leave. In some places there is just too much critical mass of black dysfunction. I say … move on!
Blacks these last few years–amped up by 50 years of minoritarianism, and whipped into a sort of open-season on YT the last few years–now do not even seem any conscious understanding of how utterly dependent they are on white people creating stuff for them. Whitey is just holding them down. Geez, let’s let them up–and leave.
There’s plenty of small cities across the nation with some sort of reasonable amenities of some sort or another. Go there! The breath of fresh air just from being out from under will be stirring.
We are the decendants of pioneers. Go pioneer and build anew. There is no magic dirt–only “magic” people who create goodness where they go.
NYU had a campus in the Bronx that they abandoned (sold for peanuts) in 1973 when it looked like the Bronx was going completely to hell. They are probably sorry now. The campus included the Hall of Fame for Great Americans - 98 bronze busts of American greats. The new owners (NY State via Bronx Community College) has maintained the colonnade but recently (and not surprisingly) Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson were beheaded.
The last bust executed was George Washington Carver in 1973. Surely by now they would have added Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, Nipsey Hussle, etc. but they haven't been able to raise the funds. I wonder what future archeologists will make of it. Grant's Tomb in Harlem is a stately and dignified classical building that is surrounded by crude concrete benches covered with bits of broken tile which were some kind of neighborhood folk art project in the early '70s - they look like something you'd find in Zimbabwe. America really went to hell after 1973.Replies: @Jake, @International Jew, @Paleo Liberal
Because much of the city is quite handsome.
But our browner betters do not want us to think or negotiate differences from rational principles (logic is white devilry). They want us to embrace and internalize the catechism of whites bad/browns good. The point of the unmerciful punishment of a single instance of wrongthinking and wrongspeech is not only to correct the current offender, but to warn off future thinking.Replies: @Simply Simon
“As an improvising musician.” I always envied the musicians who could improvise playing jazz or Dixieland primarily, but Blue Grass also. It takes a special kind of talent, I call it “soul.”
I understand the "don't give ground" attitude. And i certainly understand the gentrification--take back our high quality real estate!--push.
But AFAICT this has failed in Baltimore. White people continue to leave. In some places there is just too much critical mass of black dysfunction. I say ... move on!
Blacks these last few years--amped up by 50 years of minoritarianism, and whipped into a sort of open-season on YT the last few years--now do not even seem any conscious understanding of how utterly dependent they are on white people creating stuff for them. Whitey is just holding them down. Geez, let's let them up--and leave.
There's plenty of small cities across the nation with some sort of reasonable amenities of some sort or another. Go there! The breath of fresh air just from being out from under will be stirring.
We are the decendants of pioneers. Go pioneer and build anew. There is no magic dirt--only "magic" people who create goodness where they go.Replies: @Jack D, @Jake, @Art Deco
There is a lot of expensive infrastructure in Baltimore that is too valuable to abandon or sell at firesale prices – e.g. the campus and hospital of Johns Hopkins. And as long as the institutions are still there, white people have jobs that are tied to these places.
NYU had a campus in the Bronx that they abandoned (sold for peanuts) in 1973 when it looked like the Bronx was going completely to hell. They are probably sorry now. The campus included the Hall of Fame for Great Americans – 98 bronze busts of American greats. The new owners (NY State via Bronx Community College) has maintained the colonnade but recently (and not surprisingly) Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson were beheaded.
The last bust executed was George Washington Carver in 1973. Surely by now they would have added Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, Nipsey Hussle, etc. but they haven’t been able to raise the funds. I wonder what future archeologists will make of it. Grant’s Tomb in Harlem is a stately and dignified classical building that is surrounded by crude concrete benches covered with bits of broken tile which were some kind of neighborhood folk art project in the early ’70s – they look like something you’d find in Zimbabwe. America really went to hell after 1973.
Tells you a great deal, if you have a third of a brain.
Many of these alumni had lived in the Bronx before the flight from certain neighborhoods. And many of them were very upset that NYU left when it did.
He told me a story about a party the night before. Someone asked him what floor his office was on. I think it was a rather high floor, although a crappy view of even taller buildings.
The alum: “I bet you have a great view from your office, but you can’t see the Bronx!”
The guilty party here is neither the tribalist Africans who behaved like Africans or the Stasis who aggressively monitored thought. The fault lies with white people who think they are living in normality, and who do nothing to avoid danger and protect themselves. Condemnation belongs to every white person who applies there for a job, including Bubala.
Charity is not fantasy. Both of those women in the run-off are known quantities, as is the state's attorney. And they exemplify contemporary problems in regard to the political culture of the black bourgeoisie. What matters to these women is considerations of status. Greater Chicago has four islands within it which suffer from severe social problems. Collectively, about 12% of the population of the whole lives in those four settlements. Acknowledging the problems and crafting an implementing a response acknowledges that a critical mass of the population of those four areas is troublesome and that to address that trouble you require the application of fixed standards of conduct, deterrence, punishment, and incapacitation. This is unacceptable, because it is status-lowering for blacks. Status-enhancing poses have two components: public policies which pretend the problems of blacks are rooted in the misconduct / neglect of whites; and public policies which extend immunity to blacks (it being unacceptable that blacks be held accountable by the sort of white peasants you see in police uniforms, or be interrupted in the course of claiming public space for themselves through menacing, jaywalking, snatch-and-grab larceny, and miscellaneous disorderly conduct). A more reserved and benign manifestation of this phenomenon could be seen in Catherine Pugh, whose idea of a response to Baltimore's crime problem was more spending on community colleges (it being unacceptable to respond to a problem by any means other than giving people stuff).
A critic who read TN Coates memoir remarked that he's past 20 'ere you encounter an instance of any white person doing the slightest injury to him, and in that case it was someone being rude to his kid on an escalator. What he knows of whites is that they're getting cheekier every day.Replies: @J.Ross
Charity’s not fantasy, but an awful lot of charity organizations are simple frauds, and, if some inconceivable devil in the distant future were to advance pure fantasy along the lines of charity, exactly what, ahead of some Madoff situation of clearly lost money or freely admitted deceit, would exactly would even try to stop him?
N.B. non-blacks are a comfortable majority in Chicago and in Cook County generally. Racial chauvinism is not the strong vector in explaining why these two horrid women are in public office. The only hypothesis that makes sense is the impulse to vandalism. Pick up a rock and hurl it through a picture window. No clue why Cook County's non-black population has adopted the mentality of petty juvenile delinquents, but they apparently have.
Is the first name of the Professor of Angry Blackness a common Black Baby Mama misspelling of ‘carcinoma’?
NYU had a campus in the Bronx that they abandoned (sold for peanuts) in 1973 when it looked like the Bronx was going completely to hell. They are probably sorry now. The campus included the Hall of Fame for Great Americans - 98 bronze busts of American greats. The new owners (NY State via Bronx Community College) has maintained the colonnade but recently (and not surprisingly) Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson were beheaded.
The last bust executed was George Washington Carver in 1973. Surely by now they would have added Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, Nipsey Hussle, etc. but they haven't been able to raise the funds. I wonder what future archeologists will make of it. Grant's Tomb in Harlem is a stately and dignified classical building that is surrounded by crude concrete benches covered with bits of broken tile which were some kind of neighborhood folk art project in the early '70s - they look like something you'd find in Zimbabwe. America really went to hell after 1973.Replies: @Jake, @International Jew, @Paleo Liberal
Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson beheaded, and Grant’s tomb kept up amidst ghetto squalor.
Tells you a great deal, if you have a third of a brain.
I understand the "don't give ground" attitude. And i certainly understand the gentrification--take back our high quality real estate!--push.
But AFAICT this has failed in Baltimore. White people continue to leave. In some places there is just too much critical mass of black dysfunction. I say ... move on!
Blacks these last few years--amped up by 50 years of minoritarianism, and whipped into a sort of open-season on YT the last few years--now do not even seem any conscious understanding of how utterly dependent they are on white people creating stuff for them. Whitey is just holding them down. Geez, let's let them up--and leave.
There's plenty of small cities across the nation with some sort of reasonable amenities of some sort or another. Go there! The breath of fresh air just from being out from under will be stirring.
We are the decendants of pioneers. Go pioneer and build anew. There is no magic dirt--only "magic" people who create goodness where they go.Replies: @Jack D, @Jake, @Art Deco
It is at the point now that we should, in the millions, pioneer another country. Let the Yank Elites replace 12 or so million truly conservative whites with more blacks and brown Mohammedans, and then wait for maybe 20 years when the cannibalism starts on a massive scale.
But all of them need us to maintain the standard of living we set, and many of them without us can't even survive in many parts of the world where we've thrived longest.
Orwell mixes indefensible wartime propaganda and totally unimpeachable facts in this 1945 piece on English anti-Semitism before and after receiving Jewish refugees fleeing from Hitler. He calls out the two authors named, somewhat before a much longer list, not in the ADL’s Stasi sense that bad thoughts stop when we burn books, but in the (surely correct) sense that their stuff wouldn’t get published “now.”
http://www.orwell.ru/library/articles/antisemitism/english/e_antib
she was fired immediately. she worked there for 18 years. she was good looking. she was well liked. she probably voted democrat in every election. none of it saved her.
it was insanely idiotic. i mean, you work in a news room. for decades. around dozens of democrats. hell, the news station is probably 90% democrats. you KNOW the rules. why on earth would you say that.
she finally got a new job over 2 years later on AM radio, a gigantic downgrade.Replies: @reiner Tor, @Nicholas Stix, @Mr. Anon, @Buffalo Joe
Prime, Margaret Sullivan, former editor of the Buffalo News, mentioned that 7 of 8 black victims of the City Grille shooting in downtown Buffalo had prior felony convictions. Sure the shit the fan, but she wound up as Public Editor at NYT.
FIFY.
Actually, white female news anchors is kind of a thing in Baltimore – especially with a black male co-anchor. This was the pattern with all three of Baltimore’s big TV news shows the last time I visited there a couple of years ago. One of Detroit’s morning news programs has had two black male co-anchors with two white female co-anchors for years now.
I can’t imagine why this should be true…
In Xinaxing almost all male Uighurs are in camps. Forced marriages between Uighur women and Chinese men solves the problem.
Of course fortunately Black women already don't like competition.Replies: @Buffalo Joe
Whiskey, you used marriage and black women in the same comment. The term is “fiance.”
The first time was a school trip when Camden Yards and the "Inner Harbor" and Aquarium area had just been redeveloped into a tourist attraction.
The second time was a few years ago on a road trip with a buddy coming back from a golf tournament in the DC area.
I have to say it is underwhelming nowadays. Years ago the Inner Harbor had some promise, but now it's rather run down and you get the sense that you're just on the edge of Fort Apache where anything could happen the instant the sun goes down. There's a definite visible police presence during the day.
It's a real shame, since the Inner Harbor area has the feel of a quintessentially American space with the colonial architecture and federal brick style of the buildings. Even the decommissioned commercial buildings repurposed for retail and whatnot are interesting and seem to fit. It could be a sort of larger Annapolis, but it isn't and probably will never be now.Replies: @Anon7
“There’s a definite visible police presence during the day.”
You mean the pairs of security guards posted every 50 yards between the Johns Hopkins campus and the city, along East University and Charles Street? Day and night? Just standing there?
I’ve never seen anything like it anywhere else.
You have to do some interpolating because it doesn't explicitly categorize sectoral employees as public and private bar differentiating 'public administration' from other industries. It does have separate line items for the postal service, urban transit, primary and secondary schooling (90%+ public), higher education (75%+ public), water authorities and sewage treatment, gas and electric (25% public &c).Replies: @International Jew
What’s “bar”? Please try again; that answer was too garbled for me to try reproducing your results.
NYU had a campus in the Bronx that they abandoned (sold for peanuts) in 1973 when it looked like the Bronx was going completely to hell. They are probably sorry now. The campus included the Hall of Fame for Great Americans - 98 bronze busts of American greats. The new owners (NY State via Bronx Community College) has maintained the colonnade but recently (and not surprisingly) Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson were beheaded.
The last bust executed was George Washington Carver in 1973. Surely by now they would have added Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, Nipsey Hussle, etc. but they haven't been able to raise the funds. I wonder what future archeologists will make of it. Grant's Tomb in Harlem is a stately and dignified classical building that is surrounded by crude concrete benches covered with bits of broken tile which were some kind of neighborhood folk art project in the early '70s - they look like something you'd find in Zimbabwe. America really went to hell after 1973.Replies: @Jake, @International Jew, @Paleo Liberal
Who really is buried in Grant’s tomb anyway?
Baltimore did have it’s shining moment. It was before the riots in the 60’s.
My grandfather grew up & lived in New York City. He was a civil engineer. He worked for years on some tunnels in Baltimore that I’m told were very innovative for their time.
When I was a boy, he regaled me with stories about how cool Baltimore was. The architecture, the crab cakes, the neighborliness.
When I was older, and saw Baltimore with my own eyes, I thought that the old man must have been nuts. I guess that he didn’t want to explain “White Flight” to his adoring grandson.
Mary also has good hair.
She was likely aware that groveling would not help her keep her job or land another one. This is for personal protection. After many years on TV, she must be a very recognizable figure in that market. If she does not receive absolution, she could be terrified of ever leaving her house again.Replies: @William Badwhite
I’d be very surprised if many Baltimore blacks watched the local news.
“I don’t understand how people are so stupid to still keep apologizing. Can anyone name just one example of someone saved by apologizing?”
it works once in a while for important democrats in good standing.
who is the governor of virginia?
Of course the Beatles could not have negotiated a great deal at the beginning. The problem is, (a) they could’ve negotiated deals that were less awful, especially with Northern Songs.
Later on they had considerably more clout, and blew it. The deals they made concerning Apple Records and Apple Corps almost bankrupted the Beatles. As much as Paul hated Let It Be, the money they made from the album and the movie kept them afloat. Paul criticized the deal the other 3 made with Allen Klein as well, which Paul refused to sign, officially breaking up the Beatles in the process.
The difference is, when Oprah had enough clout to set up Harpo, she made a mint. Apple lost a mint.
B) So what about Oprah? That is her own money. It does sound like she's very smart about it and not impulsive like lots of the high-paid black athletes. We are not talking about Okra's money were she the mayor of Chicago. That's the big difference, P.L. Many people don't give a damn how they waste OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY, be they any race or ethnicity, but especially black.* As a quote-Liberal-unquote, you may really not understand this, but that's the essence of what's wrong with Socialism. Maggie Thatcher had a nice quote on that.
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* Just see what happens when you have an item at the store that doesn't scan or what have you. If it's a white cashier, she will go through a procedure (holding everybody up to find the price of 4 wood screws). A black one, 90% of the time, just doesn't give a crap about the stores's money. That can be good, I gotta admit, for someone just trying to get out of the store to do some work.Replies: @Paleo Liberal
Considering the state of Chicago politics, and the intelligence of Ms. Winfrey, I somehow doubt that if she served as mayor it would be a major step in the wrong direction.
NYU had a campus in the Bronx that they abandoned (sold for peanuts) in 1973 when it looked like the Bronx was going completely to hell. They are probably sorry now. The campus included the Hall of Fame for Great Americans - 98 bronze busts of American greats. The new owners (NY State via Bronx Community College) has maintained the colonnade but recently (and not surprisingly) Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson were beheaded.
The last bust executed was George Washington Carver in 1973. Surely by now they would have added Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, Nipsey Hussle, etc. but they haven't been able to raise the funds. I wonder what future archeologists will make of it. Grant's Tomb in Harlem is a stately and dignified classical building that is surrounded by crude concrete benches covered with bits of broken tile which were some kind of neighborhood folk art project in the early '70s - they look like something you'd find in Zimbabwe. America really went to hell after 1973.Replies: @Jake, @International Jew, @Paleo Liberal
I used to have a close friend who was one of the last professors hired in the old Bronx campus. One of his assignments was to act as a liaison with alumni who had attended the old Bronx campus.
Many of these alumni had lived in the Bronx before the flight from certain neighborhoods. And many of them were very upset that NYU left when it did.
He told me a story about a party the night before. Someone asked him what floor his office was on. I think it was a rather high floor, although a crappy view of even taller buildings.
The alum: “I bet you have a great view from your office, but you can’t see the Bronx!”
Good point, but you can bet they will hear about this particular story and therefore Becky needs to be careful.
She should never work again
This is why we need to hate speech lawsReplies: @Peripatetic Commenter, @Alfa158, @Ron Mexico
Yes, all of us here hate speech laws.☺️
That was one of your more amusing ones.
Once is a misfortune.
The second is a coincidence.
The third is a trend.
So, now you can get instantly ash-canned not for an assertion, but for a mere question? Yeah, the NEXT female AA DemonRat won’t automatically be a walking disaster for the city of Baltimore. Going by the track record, she’ll be a run-of-the-mill mediocrity. Which means the city will continue its downward slide, just at a more “manageable” rate. IOW, the last middle-class taxpayer will pack up his U-Haul in 2025 instead of 2020.
Speaking about cultural appropriations;
Dear Pee Eich Dee Karsonaya, please be so kind and delete your last name.
That’s just ain’t Who You Are.
( that funny picture is borrowed from Kaye’s personal website)
My grandfather grew up & lived in New York City. He was a civil engineer. He worked for years on some tunnels in Baltimore that I'm told were very innovative for their time.
When I was a boy, he regaled me with stories about how cool Baltimore was. The architecture, the crab cakes, the neighborliness.
When I was older, and saw Baltimore with my own eyes, I thought that the old man must have been nuts. I guess that he didn't want to explain "White Flight" to his adoring grandson.Replies: @anon, @Ghost of Bull Moose
My father used to visit his older sister in Baltimore. He took a train from Arkansas, a 10 year old kid, and spent the summer with the sister. He had great memories of Baltimore as a beautiful city and an exciting adventure for an Arkansas country boy. This was during the Great Depression.
Probably better than the last few guys, but that’s not saying much.
She should never work again
This is why we need to hate speech lawsReplies: @Peripatetic Commenter, @Alfa158, @Ron Mexico
“This is why we need to hate speech laws”
You’re a goddamn genius, TD! Wiser words have seldom been spoken.
It was heroically honest. FIFYReplies: @Achmed E. Newman, @L Woods, @bored identity
( Bellow is Doctor Kaye’s contribution to this Curent Year’s growingly trendy ‘Things That Never Happened’ genre.)
We Have A Runner!
Karsonya really, really, really wants a piece of that ongoing Genius Grant action.
Eventually, she’ll figure out how to escalate without the escalator.
P.S.
What kind of Black Parenther would let their precious pickaninny growing up totally surrounded by the wild bunch of huwhitely privileged, but totally incompetent, devils who are not even capable of catching the miny moe by the toe… in more than an hour?
It's wrong to be flippant about this -- the woman lost her job, which is a serious matter -- perhaps even more serious is that, given the nature of her (umm) offense, she may have a great deal of trouble getting another one -- this is simply not right -- debatably worse is the way Whites feel compelled to throw away whatever dignity they have left by issuing groveling, ritualistic apologies that bring nothing.
https://twitter.com/MaryWJZ/status/1124409897003700224Replies: @eah, @reiner Tor, @Moses, @Kyle, @MBlanc46
It’s not right, but it’s the way things are. Perhaps Ms Bubala has discovered that that’s now the way things are. Complaining that it’s not right is not going to change it.
Can this be changed? -- It’s wrong to be flippant about this
but it’s the way things are
This is called resignation, or surrender, and is generally considered ignoble.
The rest can be changed too -- not by people like you, obviously -- since the first step is to recognize that it's wrong, then to "complain" about it in order to convince others that it's wrong, which could result in some action, eg a viewer boycott of that station, which would affect their ratings and revenue.
Because it’s to their advantage. There is a war on noticing, but it’s selective. They want us to notice identity politics issues because while we’re noticing that we’re not noticing other things. They particularly don’t want us to notice stuff like the rich getting richer while the poor get poorer.
The poor aren't getting poorer. The incomes of professional-managerial people have grown more rapidly than the incomes of those in wage-earning occupations over the last 40-odd years, but even that's overstated. And people aren't going to stop 'noticing' that due to distractions like newscasters being fired for no good reason.
not going to change it
Can this be changed? — It’s wrong to be flippant about this
but it’s the way things are
This is called resignation, or surrender, and is generally considered ignoble.
The rest can be changed too — not by people like you, obviously — since the first step is to recognize that it’s wrong, then to “complain” about it in order to convince others that it’s wrong, which could result in some action, eg a viewer boycott of that station, which would affect their ratings and revenue.
The European way is equality, ie the fighting men of the Germanic tribes would force their leader to fight alongside them to prove he was worthy to lead. It is why labor unions are deeply European in a way that isn’t possible elsewhere.
Africans aren’t interested in equality. They simply take advantage of the surrounding norms to argue along lines which appeal to the predominant culture’s sense of honor, but inherently they are not an egalitarian culture.Replies: @Art Deco
The thing about blacks is that they have a master-slave method of being. That is, you’re either a master or a slave. You’re either a queen or a subject.
The Anglo-Caribbean countries have passably ordered and durable parliamentary systems.
In Tropical Africa over the last generation, the mode has been competing patron-client networks or a dominant network in a pluralist landscape. About 2/3 of Tropical Africa’s heads of state came out of their country’s business and professional classes and were neither soldiers nor partisans. (Some of the soldiers and partisans work through electoral systems, btw).
http://johnsantic.com/cruising/nyc/DSC08483a_m1.jpgReplies: @Art Deco, @YetAnotherAnon
1. You’re by the railroad tracks.
2. Those are the rear ends of row houses. In the rest of the city, they’re adjacent to alleys. They’re not generally all that aesthetically pleasing. The handsome aspect is facing the street.
If she’s wondering aloud in public, others of her acquaintance are no doubt doing so in private….
Part of a rising awareness – of certain disagreeable demographic facts, and of the absurd double standard (Meghan Markle telling Cambridge University to hire more people like her!). It came at the cost of her job, she wouldn’t have done it if she’d known, and she regretted doing it afterwards. But she has done the public a small service.
I understand the "don't give ground" attitude. And i certainly understand the gentrification--take back our high quality real estate!--push.
But AFAICT this has failed in Baltimore. White people continue to leave. In some places there is just too much critical mass of black dysfunction. I say ... move on!
Blacks these last few years--amped up by 50 years of minoritarianism, and whipped into a sort of open-season on YT the last few years--now do not even seem any conscious understanding of how utterly dependent they are on white people creating stuff for them. Whitey is just holding them down. Geez, let's let them up--and leave.
There's plenty of small cities across the nation with some sort of reasonable amenities of some sort or another. Go there! The breath of fresh air just from being out from under will be stirring.
We are the decendants of pioneers. Go pioneer and build anew. There is no magic dirt--only "magic" people who create goodness where they go.Replies: @Jack D, @Jake, @Art Deco
Why are white people still in Baltimore.
Because much of the city is quite handsome.
Nor ‘charity’ as in ‘philanthropy’, but ‘charity’ as in ‘putting the most agreeable construction on what people say or do’. PaleoLiberal fancies it ‘remains to be seen’ what Lightfoot will do. Unless she does a complete 180, what she’ll cooperate with the state’s attorney in advancing the Detroitization of Chicago.
N.B. non-blacks are a comfortable majority in Chicago and in Cook County generally. Racial chauvinism is not the strong vector in explaining why these two horrid women are in public office. The only hypothesis that makes sense is the impulse to vandalism. Pick up a rock and hurl it through a picture window. No clue why Cook County’s non-black population has adopted the mentality of petty juvenile delinquents, but they apparently have.
If enough of them were that stupid, it wouldn’t be stupid.
http://johnsantic.com/cruising/nyc/DSC08483a_m1.jpgReplies: @Art Deco, @YetAnotherAnon
Around 1990 I took the Amtrak from Chicago to Seattle, and a fair amount of the stretch to Milwaukee looked like that. Milwaukee itself reminded me of a Northern English city in the 80s – lots of decaying red-brick former factories.
LaFond is an entertaining read if you like to read of low and dangerous adventure without being in it yourself. He’s what I suppose you’d call a race realist and not PC at all, but he obviously gets on well and is friends with many black people, be they Americans or Nigerian immigrants. I’ve quoted one of his informants on the differences between Igbo, Hausa and Fulani.
Here’s a tale from the riots of April 2015 – taxi driver saves clueless yuppie woman from major unpleasantness.
https://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2300
I’m glad the intended irony of my comment was not lost on you.
We don’t need any out-groups, even with “we” as narrowly defined as you have in other comments.
But all of them need us to maintain the standard of living we set, and many of them without us can’t even survive in many parts of the world where we’ve thrived longest.
They particularly don’t want us to notice stuff like the rich getting richer while the poor get poorer.
The poor aren’t getting poorer. The incomes of professional-managerial people have grown more rapidly than the incomes of those in wage-earning occupations over the last 40-odd years, but even that’s overstated. And people aren’t going to stop ‘noticing’ that due to distractions like newscasters being fired for no good reason.
“The poor aren’t getting poorer. The incomes of professional-managerial people have grown more rapidly than the incomes of those in wage-earning occupations over the last 40-odd years, but even that’s overstated. “
Median US male full time real earnings in 2014 were lower than they were in 1973. The median American male is poorer in real terms than he was more than 40 years ago. And I doubt the inflation rate takes into account the rise in US house prices or the much lower full-time employment rates.
https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/the-typical-male-u-s-worker-earned-less-in-2014-than-in-1973/
I used to see a lot of working US tourists in the UK in the 1970s – ordinary Joe rather than wealthy type. Don’t see very many now.
It has been this way for a very very long time–back to when Woke Inc. was simply Establishment.
https://mediamythalert.com/
Woke is just the fashionable Cibbil Rites On Steroids mask (i.e., PC temple garb) for it all. The last thing the NewsDroids want anyone to realize is what courtesans they are…and the moment one of them breaks rank, it’s the axe.
My grandfather grew up & lived in New York City. He was a civil engineer. He worked for years on some tunnels in Baltimore that I'm told were very innovative for their time.
When I was a boy, he regaled me with stories about how cool Baltimore was. The architecture, the crab cakes, the neighborliness.
When I was older, and saw Baltimore with my own eyes, I thought that the old man must have been nuts. I guess that he didn't want to explain "White Flight" to his adoring grandson.Replies: @anon, @Ghost of Bull Moose
You can still see the bones of a great city in Baltimore, but I never saw any of that. I’m talking about the alleged renaissance when they cleaned up the inner harbor. My memories of Baltimore only go back to paying people to ‘watch’ your car while you watched the O’s game at Memorial stadium.
Median US male full time real earnings in 2014 were lower than they were in 1973. The median American male is poorer in real terms than he was more than 40 years ago. And I doubt the inflation rate takes into account the rise in US house prices or the much lower full-time employment rates.
https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/the-typical-male-u-s-worker-earned-less-in-2014-than-in-1973/
I used to see a lot of working US tourists in the UK in the 1970s - ordinary Joe rather than wealthy type. Don't see very many now.Replies: @Art Deco
Median US male full time real earnings in 2014 were lower than they were in 1973. T
Brookings needs to consult the data published by the Bureau of Labor Statistics. David Wessel is, by the way, a journalist, not an economist or statistician.
I doubt anyone will ever see so late a comment, but just in case: I will diverge from most here and say they were right to fire her.
Our only chance of putting aside inter-group animosity and having a somewhat just and harmonious society is to tacitly acknowledge that group differences are big enough to explain aggregate differences in outcomes while simultaneously committing to judging all individuals as individuals.
I think the vast majority of intelligent people understand that there are group differences and that our failure to acknowledge those group differences has terrible consequences: groups that are being treated fairly are unhappy because they wrongly think they are being discriminated against while other groups are suffering serious and very real discrimination.
I also believe that the majority of intelligent people would acknowledge those group differences — if they were utterly convinced that their decision to allow a new received wisdom would not lead to assholes in high performing groups discriminating overtly and unfairly against individuals in low performing groups.
For the vast majority of groups and traits, variation within groups is much greater than variation among groups. Even if that were not true, it’s generally easy enough to measure important individual qualities that it’s smarter to measure rather than make assumptions based on group membership.
Anytime you (Steve) or your commentators or random newscasters make snarky comments implying that HBD explains the performance of any group with just 3 members (the last 3 mayors), you undo any good will you earn with careful analysis of how differences in measurable traits between large groups explain why those groups can experience different outcomes in a fair world.
HBD doesn’t have anything to say about individuals, which is why it is racist to leave a comment about black crime rates after a story about a single crime, even though it’s not racist to talk about black crime rates on a story about group incarceration rates.
In short, if you guys (Steve or your commenters) want the world to accept your view, you need to avoid using HBD to explain individual behavior and you need to correct those who try to do it. You need to convince folks that acknowledging HBD doesn’t lead to a nation that’s even more unfair and more resentful that the one we live in now.
Our only chance of putting aside inter-group animosity and having a somewhat just and harmonious society is to tacitly acknowledge that group differences are big enough to explain aggregate differences in outcomes while simultaneously committing to judging all individuals as individuals.
I think the vast majority of intelligent people understand that there are group differences and that our failure to acknowledge those group differences has terrible consequences: groups that are being treated fairly are unhappy because they wrongly think they are being discriminated against while other groups are suffering serious and very real discrimination.
I also believe that the majority of intelligent people would acknowledge those group differences — if they were utterly convinced that their decision to allow a new received wisdom would not lead to assholes in high performing groups discriminating overtly and unfairly against individuals in low performing groups.
For the vast majority of groups and traits, variation within groups is much greater than variation among groups. Even if that were not true, it's generally easy enough to measure important individual qualities that it's smarter to measure rather than make assumptions based on group membership.
Anytime you (Steve) or your commentators or random newscasters make snarky comments implying that HBD explains the performance of any group with just 3 members (the last 3 mayors), you undo any good will you earn with careful analysis of how differences in measurable traits between large groups explain why those groups can experience different outcomes in a fair world.
HBD doesn't have anything to say about individuals, which is why it is racist to leave a comment about black crime rates after a story about a single crime, even though it's not racist to talk about black crime rates on a story about group incarceration rates.
In short, if you guys (Steve or your commenters) want the world to accept your view, you need to avoid using HBD to explain individual behavior and you need to correct those who try to do it. You need to convince folks that acknowledging HBD doesn't lead to a nation that's even more unfair and more resentful that the one we live in now.Replies: @Clyde
I read your comment and it is useless.
“Brookings needs to consult the data published by the Bureau of Labor Statistics. “
Why? Are their figures radically different to those the Census Bureau report?
“Wessel is, by the way, a journalist, not an economist or statistician.”
Surely the whole point of stuff like the report (‘Income and Poverty in the United States: 2014′) is that an intelligent layman can make sense of it – it’s not a technical paper being presented at a labour market conference. What’s so hard about “real male median income in 2014 dollars for full-time, year round (i.e. non-seasonal) employees’?
https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2015/demo/p60-252.pdf