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From The Daily Mail:

The Banksy that was too clever for council’s politically correct jobsworths: Officials scrub off artist’s latest satirical graffiti just a day after it appears in UKIP by-election constituency

A complaint was made that the mural was ‘offensive and racist’

Tendring District Council inspected the graffiti and agreed

Clacton-on-Sea locals were ‘gutted’ the artwork was destroyed

By STEVE HOPKINS FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 14:14 EST, 1 October 2014 | UPDATED: 02:32 EST, 2 October 2014

A satirical take on immigration involving birds on a wire by renowned artist Banksy has flown over the heads of council officials who labelled it ‘offensive’ and scrubbed it out.

Locals at the seaside town of Clacton-on-Sea, Essex, were abuzz when the graffiti appeared on Tendring District Council’s boathouse at West Beach this week.

It showed five grey pigeons holding up signs including one stating ‘Go Back to Africa’, seemingly aimed at a more colourful bird.

One of the pigeons’ signs said ‘Migrants Not Welcome’ whilst another was holding a placard with the words ‘Keep Off Our Worms’.

The council scrubbed the mural – potentially worth thousands of pounds – off the wall today after receiving a complaint on Tuesday from a member of the public saying ‘offensive and racist remarks’ had been painted on the wall.

One of Banky’s graffiti pieces, recently cut off brickwork in east London sold for £500,000, and in 2008, at artwork of his sold for over £1 million in New York.

Clacton-on-Sea locals were disappointed with the decision, which came just hours after Banksy posted a picture of his latest work on his website banksy.co.uk.

The council removed the Banksy artwork after receiving a complaint that it was ‘racist and offensive’

‘I bet that’s the last time we’ll get a Banksy here in Clacton’.

Nigel Brown, Tendring District Council’s communications manager, said staff had inspected the site after receiving a complaint and ‘agreed that it could be seen as offensive’. …

Mr Brown added: ‘We would obviously welcome an appropriate Banksy original on any of our seafronts and would be delighted if he returned in the future.’

A spokesman for Banksy said he would not comment on the council’s actions

Clacton-on-Sea has been in the headlines recently after its Tory MP, Douglas Carswell, defected to UKIP. A by-election for the seat is due to take place next week.

The clean little secret of Banksy, the masked “graffiti artist” who paints on public walls in the middle of the night, is that he is a highly gifted and well-trained traditional artist. Rubens would have hired him as an apprentice in his studio.

That was the joke behind Banksy’s pseudo-documentary movie Exit Past the Gift Shop about a promoter acquaintance who decides that if Banksy can have a lucrative art career, then he can be a conceptual artist too. But the impresario can’t draw or paint or cut interesting patterns out of paper with scissors or anything else Banksy is shown doing well in the movie, so he hires artists to do the boring art stuff for him while he dreams up the important stuff: the concepts. It’s all a hideous disaster, of course.

Granted, Banksy would be even better if he had more interesting concepts. But the world is nuts enough today that even his trite, safe little SWPL “provocations” sometimes get turned into something amusing by the powers that be.

 
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  1. Priss Factor [AKA "pizza with hot pepper"] says:

    Given the respective size of UK and Black Africa, the illustration should show a few tiny sparrows trying to protect its nest from thousands of black crows trying to swoop down to take over.

  2. German_reader says:

    What an ***hole, that Banksy, with his pc rubbish. But then graffity sprayers are scum anyway. Wasn’t there a case during the Clinton years when some teenage American fatso was caned in Singapore for graffiti-related vandalism? I thought that was pretty great, should be done like that in Western countries too.

  3. Clearly, this was racist and offensive. The complainer and the authorities, however, were too stupid to realize that it was expressing anti-white sentiment, and therefore ideologically pure. So for the first time in modern history the authorities did the right thing, albeit inadvertently.

    • Replies: @Keith Vaz
    @Trumpenprole

    Happens more often than you'd think.

    What a sanctimonious PC prick Banksy has turned out to be. 'Edgy' my ass!

    , @Keith Vaz
    @Trumpenprole

    Happens more often than you'd think.

    What a sanctimonious PC prick Banksy has turned out to be. 'Edgy' my ass!

  4. Can Jeff Koons draw? I assume he can but I’ve never seen anything he painted by himself. Banksy made it because he is very politically correct. I think he’s being ironic, Steve, and the local boat council wasn’t hip enough to pick up on it.

  5. OT, but Ebola is getting creepier. Did the NBC camerman eat monkeys or bats? Or handle dead people? About the time they told us it couldn’t happen here gov/media said it only transmitted in such ways.

    • Replies: @Dahlia
    @IA

    Yeah, he's traveling with a nationally known doctor with the spotlight literally on. What protocols did he break... if any! :(

    That pigeon's placard: wouldn't Pakistan had been more relevant? They are whom English xenophobes get most upset about from what I understood.

    Replies: @IA

  6. anon • Disclaimer says:

    @ IA

    If you’re in Liberia, you’re going to come in contact with Liberians. I say this without any racial animus, but the hygenic practices of black Africans are nonexistent usually. Even if you manage to maintain personal hygiene there, the fact that nobody else does puts you at great risk when a disease outbreak occurs. The chances of a major ebola outbreak in the US is very low, stop freaking out.

  7. Migratory birds go back and forth every year. Invasive species, on the other hand, come and stay.

  8. @IA
    OT, but Ebola is getting creepier. Did the NBC camerman eat monkeys or bats? Or handle dead people? About the time they told us it couldn't happen here gov/media said it only transmitted in such ways.

    Replies: @Dahlia

    Yeah, he’s traveling with a nationally known doctor with the spotlight literally on. What protocols did he break… if any! 🙁

    That pigeon’s placard: wouldn’t Pakistan had been more relevant? They are whom English xenophobes get most upset about from what I understood.

    • Replies: @IA
    @Dahlia

    Well, yeah. Xenophobes in an English town recently learned their place.

    Replies: @Dahlia

  9. sniggeridoo:

    – In July 2011 one of Banksy’s early works, Gorilla in a Pink Mask, which had been a prominent landmark on the exterior wall of a former social club in Eastville for over ten years, was unwittingly painted over after the premises became a Muslim cultural centre.

    Tranny gorillas ain’t halal, I guess.

  10. Dammit satire is so lame nowadays. Can you even call it satire? If you look back at satire during the French Revolution they drew Marie Antionette on a penis-shaped ostrich. How are the pigeons even remotely provocative compared to past satire? The mean English pigeons are nasty to the poor, tiny colourful African bird? Never mind the reality of African immigration to Britain that totally undermines “Banksy”‘s message, this is just piss weak imagery. The council should have just said: “We’re not removing this because it’s politically offensive but because it’s just ugly graffiti.”

    • Replies: @JustAnotherGuyWithA1911
    @Aaron


    Dammit satire is so lame nowadays.
     
    This reminds me of something that Jaque Barzon wrote in From Dawn To Decadence: "When people accept futility and the absurd as normal the culture is decadent. The term is not a slur; it is a technical label. A decadent culture offers opportunities chiefly to the satirist."

    Our writers, playwrights, painters are willfully blind to the absurdity and, yet, acutely aware of the social opprobrium, ostracism and financial ruin that would be the reward of a true satirist in the 21st century. (Although - I will say South Park and Family Guy do seem to get away with a lot). But for the rest, quite simply, they are frozen and incapable of true satire despite the ample opportunities for it. All we get, really, are just thinly veiled polemics against the organs of a civilization the cultural-Marxists have pretty much taken over and torn down - which pretty much is also everything that passes as "art" as well. So, yeah, its f*ing lame as hell.

    I sort of view Steve in some respects as satirist (a satirical essayist?) . I mean, what could beat "Oscar Gold"; hopefully, he can get that green lighted at some point. Anyway - even if it is not the traditional literary form - Steve, like any good satirist, points out the vices, follies, abuses, and shortcomings of our decadent culture and then holds them up to well deserved ridicule.

  11. In his interview with Sanjay Gupta, Dr. Frieden doesn’t inspire confidence. I don’t want to be withing three miles of someone with Ebola, much less 3 feet. Grinning like a goof when talking about a deadly disease doesn’t sit well.

  12. “Rubens would have hired him as an apprentice in his studio.”

    Yeah – somebody’s got to paint the leaves on the trees in the background.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @vinteuil

    "Yeah – somebody’s got to paint the leaves on the trees in the background."

    That's how most of the great painters in history learned their craft.

    If you want to figure out who Banksy is, start with a list of well-paid London commercial illustrators in the years before he started making a living being Banksy. Look up the ones who were youngish then but don't seem to be in the commercial art business anymore.

    Replies: @vinteuil

  13. Ha, ha, the PC/MC groupies wiped out artwork that supported their position. Talk about stupid.

    IA:

    Don’t worry the CDC and Obama are on top of this. Coupled with Obama’s get treated in the U.S. for free and get lifetime welfare program. It’s gonna be a major attraction for Ebola infected Liberians once they figure out Obama has just rolled out the welcome mat for everyone infected with Ebola. Just give those folks a week or two.

    Here’s the rub, the CDC is politically compromised and run by a medical quack that worked for Bloomberg and whose chief accomplishment was banning big gulf soda drinks. Don’t think for a moment this clown car posse is going to level with the people or even consider imposing the appropriate measures because it calls into question Obama’s support of open borders.

    BTW no one wants to disinfect the apartment that the Liberian was staying in.

    Beyond this, we need to wait a week or two and see if more Liberians are coming or if the initial quarantine has failed.

    There’s always next time though, given our non-existent borders and our inner cities filled full of 3rd worlders and their un-hygenic practices.

  14. Everybody hates pigeons, so he made the white people pigeons.

    Everyone loves the colorful little birds, so he made the Muslims and Africans the colorful little bird.

    But did they remove this because it’s anti white bigotry? Nope. They removed it because it somehow could be taken as offensive to Muslims and Africans. Do Muslims and Africans have some secret hatred of birds that I don’t know about? Do they get compared to birds, ever? I just don’t get it.

  15. AIDS, anon. This sounds too familiar.

    I thought AIDS would destroy gays. Just the opposite. It energized gay “rights”. In a victim culture victimization gains power. It energizes the State. Blacks, according to the CDC, have eight to twenty times the rate of venereal disease as whites. It ain’t just a matter of geo.

    No ones freaking. But we are being lied to. Constantly.

    Grafitti is similar. The grafitti artist is supposed to be an outlaw. But Banksy and other anti-western artists cash in on either vandalism or nihilistic trash. Been there done that. Are you freaking? Of course not. You’re cool.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @IA


    I thought AIDS would destroy gays. Just the opposite. It energized gay “rights”.
     
    I disagree. AIDS set back the gay agenda by nearly a decade, roughly 1983-1989. Before and after that period, support for gay rights rose at about 1% to 1.5% per year. But during this period it declined.

    1986 was also the year of the last anti-gay Supreme Court decision:

    http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=14901730125647575103&q=%22Bowers+v.+Hardwick%22+OR+%22478+U.S.+186%22&hl=en&as_sdt=2006

    Here is gallup's polling of gay rights archive:
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/1651/Gay-Lesbian-Rights.aspx?version=print
  16. The double irony is that it no doubt would’ve offended many of the invaders. Lots of people are not at all attuned to ironic statements no matter facile and heavy-handed they may be. Somehow I suspect that third world leeches are not very capable as interpreters of satire. (I’d put “satire” in scare quotes, but that would be almost as lame and obvious as that mural.) They’ll just look at it, see that it says for migrants and Africans to go away and take it at face value.

  17. @Dahlia
    @IA

    Yeah, he's traveling with a nationally known doctor with the spotlight literally on. What protocols did he break... if any! :(

    That pigeon's placard: wouldn't Pakistan had been more relevant? They are whom English xenophobes get most upset about from what I understood.

    Replies: @IA

    Well, yeah. Xenophobes in an English town recently learned their place.

    • Replies: @Dahlia
    @IA

    Are you suggesting that Banksy used "Africa" rather than "Pakistan" because it might point out that xenophobes have a point? Well I never!

  18. “. . .his trite, safe little SWPL “provocations” sometimes get turned into something amusing by the powers that be. . .”

    The people that consider themselves smart think his work is edgy and transgressive because it has never yet threatened their pc sensibilities. He’s like one of those artists that produced propaganda posters under Mao, but they pretend he’s an iconoclast.

    His art skills are excellent, though.

  19. Banksy doesn’t need to taunt the English with Paki irony. They’ve won. The next wave is blacks. Even more immediately horrible with Ebola. So, jack up the hipster Eloi status machine and shame the squares.

  20. So, Banksy’s work is the opposite of the “de-skilled” art Tom Wolfe mocked in Back To Blood.

  21. Stop freaking out? We’re letting into our house very sick members of a group who eat bats and monkeys and we’re not supposed to freak out? What next, Bat and Monkey cook books? To show, you know, we’re not xenophobic. Hey, dude!, have some monkey fritter! Cool, man!

  22. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t get the fuss over this guy…his artwork is the visual equivalent of pun jokes.

    Some of it is mildly fun, but it’s about as deep as a wading pool – yet people pay huge money for this stuff. Like a lot of modern art it’s mostly driven by celebrity/marketing.

  23. @vinteuil
    "Rubens would have hired him as an apprentice in his studio."

    Yeah - somebody's got to paint the leaves on the trees in the background.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    “Yeah – somebody’s got to paint the leaves on the trees in the background.”

    That’s how most of the great painters in history learned their craft.

    If you want to figure out who Banksy is, start with a list of well-paid London commercial illustrators in the years before he started making a living being Banksy. Look up the ones who were youngish then but don’t seem to be in the commercial art business anymore.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    @Steve Sailer

    @SS

    Hmmm...

    Banksy aside, is it true that "most of the great painters in history learned their craft" doing grunt work in a senior artist's studio?

    I dunno. It's an interesting question.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  24. @IA
    @Dahlia

    Well, yeah. Xenophobes in an English town recently learned their place.

    Replies: @Dahlia

    Are you suggesting that Banksy used “Africa” rather than “Pakistan” because it might point out that xenophobes have a point? Well I never!

  25. I like Bansky a lot.

    I don’t agree with this one, but his general agenda is anti-corporatist and anti-consumerism, which is great. He’s relatively apolitical and unpretentious for a 21st century artist, and nearly always funny. See here: http://lazybanksy.tumblr.com/

    The most valuable living artist, by far, is Gerhard Richter. While he has a few sparks of talent, 95% of his work looks like a college student’s “A-” art project. Here’s a link to a recent auction where several paintings sold for more than $2 million. I think Richter’s are easily the worst of the bunch.

    http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/2014/contemporary-art-evening-auction-l14020.html#&page=1&sort=lotNum-asc&range=7|100&viewMode=list

    I like his “Spanish Nudes”: https://www.gerhard-richter.com/en/art/paintings/photo-paintings/nudes-16/spanish-nudes-5189/?&p=1&sp=32

    Given it sold for $600,000 in 1990, it is probably worth more than $20 million now.

    This pile of crap by Richter was purchased for $37 million:

    http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2013/may/15/gerhard-richter-painting-auction-record

    I sometimes take photos like this by accident and immediately delete them from my phone.

    Here’s another piece of crap by Richter that Eric Clapton purchased for about $4 million, then flipped for $34 million:

  26. “‘The council scrubbed the mural – potentially worth thousands of pounds – off the wall today after receiving a complaint on Tuesday from a member of the public saying “offensive and racist remarks” had been painted on the wall.’”

    First of all, it’s not a “mural,” it’s graffiti: it’s vandalism. Secondly, that vandals’ graffiti has become to be considered to be “worth thousands of pounds” forms a powerful indictment of the top-down imposed decline of Western Civilization (Banksy has merely been laughing all the way to the banks thanks to the bien pensant having mistaken to hail vandalism as Great Art). Thirdly, just one “member of the public” complained so. of course, the Dear Rulers’ Thought Police leapt instantly into action, lest anyone else seeing the graffito might have felt inspired by it to commit Crimethink.

    As far as today’s safe-PC, preaching to the choir satire falling flat, perhaps Bob Dylan had that one nailed a long time ago with “The pump don’t work ’cause the vandals took the handle.”

  27. Reminds me of the sketch on SNL, Jon Lovitz as Picasso. Going around Paris paying his cafe tab with doodles. “There, you have a Picasso.”

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Busby

    Marc Chagall used to pay for every incidental with a check. Shop owners would keep the check for his signature, as opposed to depositing it for the $3.99.

  28. I admire Banksy more than most modern artsy-fartsy guys in that he can 1. really draw, and b. create images that are tuned into the zeitgeist. Plus, he’s got balls because what he does is illegal and not totally disgusting. Its almost as if he has good taste.

    Anyway, great post Steve. You ought to do more like this.

  29. Actually the Lazy Banksy link above is by an imitator page. But almost as good as the real one!

    See here:

    http://www.dailydot.com/entertainment/lazy-banksy-tumblr-cullen-crawford/

  30. Ummm….hate to spoil the party, but Mr. Banks does not actually draw his creations or have traditional art skills…he essentially ripped off fellow non artist 3D’s method to make graffiti. He steals digital photos of something and turns up the contrast in Photoshop until he gets 1980s photocopier like solid shapes, then has a stencil made at the local kinkos…

    • Replies: @IA
    @Big Red Eye of Jupiter

    Artists today, or people who manipulate images like Banksy, use computers and projectors. Impressionists used photos. Before that artists used camera obscura, pounce wheels and grids. Its a way to save time if you just want to make a believable illusion.

    He probably could draw a believable image if he had to, if, according to Steve, he worked for illustrators.

  31. After looking at this gallery of 100+ Banksy works, I like him even more:

    http://twistedsifter.com/2014/07/the-ultimate-banksy-gallery/

    1. At most 15% of these have any real political messages

    2. His humor is gentle and good natured. This is about as edgy as he gets:

    http://instagram.com/p/fVPQA1K-yD/

    3. the OCCUPY! the musical is vaguely right-wing

    http://instagram.com/p/fC-Urkq-65/

  32. @IA
    AIDS, anon. This sounds too familiar.

    I thought AIDS would destroy gays. Just the opposite. It energized gay "rights". In a victim culture victimization gains power. It energizes the State. Blacks, according to the CDC, have eight to twenty times the rate of venereal disease as whites. It ain't just a matter of geo.

    No ones freaking. But we are being lied to. Constantly.

    Grafitti is similar. The grafitti artist is supposed to be an outlaw. But Banksy and other anti-western artists cash in on either vandalism or nihilistic trash. Been there done that. Are you freaking? Of course not. You're cool.

    Replies: @Lot

    I thought AIDS would destroy gays. Just the opposite. It energized gay “rights”.

    I disagree. AIDS set back the gay agenda by nearly a decade, roughly 1983-1989. Before and after that period, support for gay rights rose at about 1% to 1.5% per year. But during this period it declined.

    1986 was also the year of the last anti-gay Supreme Court decision:

    http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=14901730125647575103&q=%22Bowers+v.+Hardwick%22+OR+%22478+U.S.+186%22&hl=en&as_sdt=2006

    Here is gallup’s polling of gay rights archive:
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/1651/Gay-Lesbian-Rights.aspx?version=print

  33. Priss Factor [AKA "pizza with hot pepper"] says:

    Why Blacks Are Good at Sports – Race Differences in Skeletal System

  34. “‘We would obviously welcome an appropriate Banksy original”: it’s undeniable that “appropriate” is the great fascist/Stalinist word of our time. At least in Britain. Are youse guys infested with it too?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @dearieme

    Oh, yeah, "appropriate" has been huge in America in this century.

    Replies: @Marty

  35. Is competent representative painting so dead an art form that Banksy, with his stencils, is considered talented? Or does toeing the line really work that well?

    • Replies: @IA
    @Power Child

    Actually, what he does requires a fair amount of skill and talent.

    At least compared to pointing a little box, making a million identical images and then publishing one or two that satisfy the curators at MOMA, Tate Modern, Pompidou, Menil, etc.

    I've never understood photos to be art myself. But, that's just me being a snob.

  36. @dearieme
    "‘We would obviously welcome an appropriate Banksy original": it's undeniable that "appropriate" is the great fascist/Stalinist word of our time. At least in Britain. Are youse guys infested with it too?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Oh, yeah, “appropriate” has been huge in America in this century.

    • Replies: @Marty
    @Steve Sailer

    One correction. American women such as librarians have been drawing their "appropriate" sword since at least 1995.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

  37. Is that an african swallow?

  38. @Busby
    Reminds me of the sketch on SNL, Jon Lovitz as Picasso. Going around Paris paying his cafe tab with doodles. "There, you have a Picasso."

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Marc Chagall used to pay for every incidental with a check. Shop owners would keep the check for his signature, as opposed to depositing it for the $3.99.

  39. @Big Red Eye of Jupiter
    Ummm….hate to spoil the party, but Mr. Banks does not actually draw his creations or have traditional art skills…he essentially ripped off fellow non artist 3D’s method to make graffiti. He steals digital photos of something and turns up the contrast in Photoshop until he gets 1980s photocopier like solid shapes, then has a stencil made at the local kinkos…

    Replies: @IA

    Artists today, or people who manipulate images like Banksy, use computers and projectors. Impressionists used photos. Before that artists used camera obscura, pounce wheels and grids. Its a way to save time if you just want to make a believable illusion.

    He probably could draw a believable image if he had to, if, according to Steve, he worked for illustrators.

  40. @Power Child
    Is competent representative painting so dead an art form that Banksy, with his stencils, is considered talented? Or does toeing the line really work that well?

    Replies: @IA

    Actually, what he does requires a fair amount of skill and talent.

    At least compared to pointing a little box, making a million identical images and then publishing one or two that satisfy the curators at MOMA, Tate Modern, Pompidou, Menil, etc.

    I’ve never understood photos to be art myself. But, that’s just me being a snob.

  41. @Aaron
    Dammit satire is so lame nowadays. Can you even call it satire? If you look back at satire during the French Revolution they drew Marie Antionette on a penis-shaped ostrich. How are the pigeons even remotely provocative compared to past satire? The mean English pigeons are nasty to the poor, tiny colourful African bird? Never mind the reality of African immigration to Britain that totally undermines "Banksy"'s message, this is just piss weak imagery. The council should have just said: "We're not removing this because it's politically offensive but because it's just ugly graffiti."

    Replies: @JustAnotherGuyWithA1911

    Dammit satire is so lame nowadays.

    This reminds me of something that Jaque Barzon wrote in From Dawn To Decadence: “When people accept futility and the absurd as normal the culture is decadent. The term is not a slur; it is a technical label. A decadent culture offers opportunities chiefly to the satirist.”

    Our writers, playwrights, painters are willfully blind to the absurdity and, yet, acutely aware of the social opprobrium, ostracism and financial ruin that would be the reward of a true satirist in the 21st century. (Although – I will say South Park and Family Guy do seem to get away with a lot). But for the rest, quite simply, they are frozen and incapable of true satire despite the ample opportunities for it. All we get, really, are just thinly veiled polemics against the organs of a civilization the cultural-Marxists have pretty much taken over and torn down – which pretty much is also everything that passes as “art” as well. So, yeah, its f*ing lame as hell.

    I sort of view Steve in some respects as satirist (a satirical essayist?) . I mean, what could beat “Oscar Gold”; hopefully, he can get that green lighted at some point. Anyway – even if it is not the traditional literary form – Steve, like any good satirist, points out the vices, follies, abuses, and shortcomings of our decadent culture and then holds them up to well deserved ridicule.

  42. Keith Vaz [AKA "D\'Marco Mobley"] says:
    @Trumpenprole
    Clearly, this was racist and offensive. The complainer and the authorities, however, were too stupid to realize that it was expressing anti-white sentiment, and therefore ideologically pure. So for the first time in modern history the authorities did the right thing, albeit inadvertently.

    Replies: @Keith Vaz, @Keith Vaz

    Happens more often than you’d think.

    What a sanctimonious PC prick Banksy has turned out to be. ‘Edgy’ my ass!

  43. Keith Vaz [AKA "D\'Marco Mobley"] says:
    @Trumpenprole
    Clearly, this was racist and offensive. The complainer and the authorities, however, were too stupid to realize that it was expressing anti-white sentiment, and therefore ideologically pure. So for the first time in modern history the authorities did the right thing, albeit inadvertently.

    Replies: @Keith Vaz, @Keith Vaz

    Happens more often than you’d think.

    What a sanctimonious PC prick Banksy has turned out to be. ‘Edgy’ my ass!

  44. You can’t be too picky these days. Damien Hirst puts dead animals in formaldehyde and sells them for $10 million.

  45. @Steve Sailer
    @dearieme

    Oh, yeah, "appropriate" has been huge in America in this century.

    Replies: @Marty

    One correction. American women such as librarians have been drawing their “appropriate” sword since at least 1995.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Marty

    "One correction. American women such as librarians have been drawing their 'appropriate' sword since at least 1995."

    Yeah, the first time I ever had something I said (or rather typed, on a BBS no less) criticized as "inappropriate" (and yes, it was by a woman), was in 1994. I remember the year because that also happened to be the year I was living in Orange County (California), and because it really irked me. I mean, seriously, you can't just go around calling things "inappropriate," without providing some basis upon which to declare them as such. Or at least you darn well shouldn't be doing that.

  46. I couldn’t figure out which side had painted the picture till reading the article. It’s overt message is that immigration is good— the immigrant adds color to a boring country. But then you start thinking: well, why can’t boring birds protect their worms? And who’s going to want to give a boring bird a job when there’s a colorful bird available? In the end, the effect is anti-immigration simply because it brings up the topic and makes people think. The pro-immigration people’s best strategy is to get people to talk about some other subject.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Eric Rasmusen


    The pro-immigration people’s best strategy is to get people to talk about some other subject.
     
    Absolutely. If you get an immigrationist to debate you've snared a low-wattage Outer Party member and it always ends with them being thrashed. The bright ones know to avoid staring into the abyss at all or shouting you down. Anything but address the issue. Paradoxically this means that the dimmer immigrationists come across as thoughtful and reflective while the brighter ones come across as intolerant loons (which I suppose they are).
  47. Put the Tendring District Council in charge of Rome, and they’d take care of all that stuff someone drew on the ceilings. They might even put in some colorful Calder sculptures to brighten up all that gray stone

  48. @Steve Sailer
    @vinteuil

    "Yeah – somebody’s got to paint the leaves on the trees in the background."

    That's how most of the great painters in history learned their craft.

    If you want to figure out who Banksy is, start with a list of well-paid London commercial illustrators in the years before he started making a living being Banksy. Look up the ones who were youngish then but don't seem to be in the commercial art business anymore.

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    @SS

    Hmmm…

    Banksy aside, is it true that “most of the great painters in history learned their craft” doing grunt work in a senior artist’s studio?

    I dunno. It’s an interesting question.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @vinteuil

    I'm just referencing the opinion of Paul Johnson in "Art: A New History" in 2003.

  49. @vinteuil
    @Steve Sailer

    @SS

    Hmmm...

    Banksy aside, is it true that "most of the great painters in history learned their craft" doing grunt work in a senior artist's studio?

    I dunno. It's an interesting question.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I’m just referencing the opinion of Paul Johnson in “Art: A New History” in 2003.

  50. @Marty
    @Steve Sailer

    One correction. American women such as librarians have been drawing their "appropriate" sword since at least 1995.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    “One correction. American women such as librarians have been drawing their ‘appropriate’ sword since at least 1995.”

    Yeah, the first time I ever had something I said (or rather typed, on a BBS no less) criticized as “inappropriate” (and yes, it was by a woman), was in 1994. I remember the year because that also happened to be the year I was living in Orange County (California), and because it really irked me. I mean, seriously, you can’t just go around calling things “inappropriate,” without providing some basis upon which to declare them as such. Or at least you darn well shouldn’t be doing that.

  51. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    To go off on a tangent I live near Clacton and Carswell is quite interesting from an immigration restrictionist viewpoint. He is clearly a market liberal but he is perfectly comfortable with campaigning for further restrictions on immigration. Indeed there are a number of British Libertarians who are currently getting very, very upset about this.

    His colleague, Mark Reckless, when he defected to UKIP was quite upfront when he said that it takes a lot of determination for an immigrant to come half way across the world to come over here and immigration could be a good thing, then to say that it needed to be restricted as a sensible immigration policy relied on consent of the governed.

    A lot of the literature in Clacton has been saying that the UK should adopt an Australian points system (which I think is actually different to UKIP’s official restrictionist view), that is let in immigrants but the ones that would be good for the UK.

    The point is that there is a moderate restrictionist movement growing in the UK that is fervently free trading, uninterested in the blood and soil stuff and yet calling for more restriction. A lot of it is tied up in euroscepticism (tapping anti-immigration views is a good way to point out that the EU really matters) and some of this is also part of a growing direct democracy movement that is still quite small in the UK (let’s decide who our neighbours are).

    This is probably helped by the space created by UKIP who are probably the first proper nationwide populist movement since the 1920s Labour Party, and are prepared to break taboos on immigration. But UKIP is also very business friendly, even if a bit on the Poujadist side.

    It’s interesting to see this come up from a distinctly market friendly corner of the political spectrum, even if this would be hard to replicate in the States and is probably not nearly as restrictionist as many of th commentors would like.

  52. @Eric Rasmusen
    I couldn't figure out which side had painted the picture till reading the article. It's overt message is that immigration is good--- the immigrant adds color to a boring country. But then you start thinking: well, why can't boring birds protect their worms? And who's going to want to give a boring bird a job when there's a colorful bird available? In the end, the effect is anti-immigration simply because it brings up the topic and makes people think. The pro-immigration people's best strategy is to get people to talk about some other subject.

    Replies: @Lurker

    The pro-immigration people’s best strategy is to get people to talk about some other subject.

    Absolutely. If you get an immigrationist to debate you’ve snared a low-wattage Outer Party member and it always ends with them being thrashed. The bright ones know to avoid staring into the abyss at all or shouting you down. Anything but address the issue. Paradoxically this means that the dimmer immigrationists come across as thoughtful and reflective while the brighter ones come across as intolerant loons (which I suppose they are).

  53. Actually when I watched Exit Through the Gift Shop I took away a solid critique of the role of hype and gallery BS in the art world. The little french pretender does succeed even though his work is mass produced crap because he generates hype. This is exactly why I decided to go more commercial and less gallery with my own work. Finishing a piece for a client is far more satisfying to me than standing at an opening and having to listen to a hundred pretentious idiots blather. There isn’t enough shitty wine in the world to make it tolerable.

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