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From the Washington Post:
Was there a ‘Ferguson effect’ in Baltimore? Don’t be so sure.
By Radley Balko
July 19The Watch Opinion
… It’s hard to escape the conclusion that the people making this argument [that there is a Ferguson Effect] are sacrificing lives to gain political points.
This is a few thousand words of obfuscation to distract from the fundamental fact (which goes unmentioned in the article) that the total number of homicides nationally in 2016 was 20% higher than in 2014, when BLM launched during the Ferguson rioting in August 2014. Moreover, many of the worst spikes in murders, such as St. Louis, Baltimore, and Chicago, happened directly following BLM’s biggest victories.
That’s so many incremental dead bodies that I would be similarly tempted to try to confuse the issue and accuse my critics of “sacrificing lives,” too.
Let me make a constructive suggestion for Mr. Balko, a leading advocate for less violent policing. We all have an interest in better policing, and that requires constant attention, training, and calling out of bad behavior by the police. But … tying what ought to be a standard Good Government movement, similar to, say, airliner safety promotion, to the War on Racism, as happened during this Late Obama Age Collapse, was disastrous for all concerned (other than for a few professional racial hate activists).
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Most police work is reactive, so if police hold back a bit, or more than a bit, they are just arriving at the crime scene later. These communities, Baltimore, St. Louis, Ferguson, Cleveland, Chicago, do not want proactive policing. That is what they call profiling.
Balko is innumerate.
Years before BLM perfected the practice, Balko specialized in promoting every local article about police excessive force he could find, and then advocated anti-police policies from his unrepresentative anecdotes.
I suspect that Balko is fully aware of the 20% rise in homicides, post-Ferguson, but is sticking with his series of articles on police misconduct, civil forfeiture and the militarization of police forces for one of two reasons.
Either he's stuck in a groove that earns him a lot of praise and perhaps, speaking engagements, or, alternatively, the Washington Post editors and their chosen narrative will simply not let him do a series of articles on the rise in the number of homicide and the proximate causative factor.
OT: Interesting (English language) Peter Thiel interview with a Swiss newspaper. https://www.weltwoche.ch/ausgaben/2018-29/artikel/en-hypnotische-massenphanomene-die-weltwoche-ausgabe-29-2018.html
Radley knows better than this tripe. I’m guessing he’s trying to get in favor with some hot little liberal number in DC and has to write accordingly. When it all comes crashing down, he’ll be back on his game again.
I don't know why I keep seeing his name. I was reading Reason when he was in kindergarten, and my subscription lapsed, forever, sometime before he reached junior high.
A glance at the map in the USA article suggests murders spiked in Baltimore and showed random fluctuations in suburbs. Wonder what this means?
Balko, like most in the media, is an apologist or denialist of black ghetto pathology. He can’t be taken seriously in these matters.
It's who they are.
How can we be sure (pace other Unz.com writers) that all these extra dead people are not just crisis actors pretending to be dead.
You can’t fool me.
Police officers irrationaly fearing for their jobs and lives is stupid and rayciss rayciss rayciss.
POC irrationally fearing for their freedom and lives is smart because rayciss rayciss rayciss.
Especially the law abiding blacks who have to live with this crap in their neighborhoods. I thought libs cared about them too?
No one has any idea what to do about black violence. The libs delight in saying that it’s all Whitey’s fault which makes many people give even less of a damn than they do now.
Here in Toronto they just call it "gun violence" as if guns are just magically floating around the city shooting at people like the drones in a Terminator movie.Replies: @Corn
I'll believe in the existence of a reasonable percent of "law-abiding blacks" just as soon as I find all those poor women who were kept from being computer programmers and all the Negroes kept from fulfilling their native genius due to racism. In other words, ZFG. If some Negroes are genuinely concerned about all the violence perpetrated by other Negroes, let's hear them speak up and start "snitching." What they object to is Negro on Negro violence; Negro on White is just social justice in action, as far as most of them are concerned.Replies: @Art Deco
What has he ever written that would give you the impression that he knows better?
Punishment needs to be more punitive so that people are afraid of going to prison.
Blacks Run Amok When Cops Pull Back
Tweet from 2015:
It’s what they do.
It’s who they are.
OT:
27-year-old white homeless convicted felon stabs two black sisters at the major BART transfer station in NW Oakland, killing the younger:
https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Manhunt-continues-for-suspected-killer-in-Oakland-13097698.php#photo-15905957
Some surprising sanity on the part of the family spokesman:
Daryle Allums, who spoke to reporters on behalf of the family and leads the “Stop killing our kids” movement in Oakland, urged those in the African American community to “stand down right now” and avoid jumping to conclusions on whether the attack was racially motivated.
“We don’t know if this was racist, we don’t know if this was random,” Allums said. “Let’s get this information to find out what really happened. Let’s find out the right facts to then be able to deal with this situation.”
However, The slaying of Nia Wilson was the third possible homicide connected to BART in just five days.
"BART" apparently stands for "bring a ready trigger".Replies: @Lot
Whoa, Steve. You know about the Obama Affirmative Action in air traffic control. Has anybody in our “Good Government,” stopped that yet? If not, just hold on and you will see the disastrous results.
The Ravens play half their games on the road?
Go figure.
OT: That recent Florida “stand your ground” shooting. For the life of me, I’m seeing the Black woman parked in a handicapped space without the appropriate permit. The White busybody confronts the woman at a non-threatening distance, maybe three feet, and his rapid right hand gestures indicate someone who’s trying to explain rather than intimidate or bully. She could have said, “Yeah, okay, asshole”, then moved to a non-handicapped space. Her boy friend arrives, and, without words, violently throws down the White busybody, a stringy guy twenty years older than the boy friend, and massively outmatched physically to boot. The boy friend could have said, “Go to hell asshole, we’re out of here.”
Steve, can you do a post on this? (I’m a non-lawyer here, I won’t defend “busybody-ism” at all, but, Chrissake, the Black folks here had easy “back-away” decisions they could have made.)
The black woman had just as much right to stand her ground as the shooter did. He was the aggressor. Witnesses stated that the shooter had been yelling at the woman.
We don't know what was said or what hand gestures the shooter made before the shove, the victim might have been fully justified in defending the female under his protection.
The shooter fired after the victim was backing up and trying to deescalate. It was a bad shoot.
On another forum someone who claims to live in the area said the local sheriff is not a fan of SYG and gave a pass on this case to try and make the law look bad.
If the shooter had minded his own business and walked on into the store there would not have been any issues at all.Replies: @JackOH, @It's All Ball Bearings, @27 year old
While you are checking out, someone comes into the store and reports that a nutcase is outside yelling at a woman in a car.
You exit the store and see the deranged nut yelling and making gestures at your family. He is blocking your route to your vehicle.
How do you respond? With a forceful push or by politely asking him to move?Replies: @JackOH
Moral: After throwing a man to the ground for yelling at your woman, do not move in for the kill.
“Radley Balko” sounds like one of the bad guys in an Ayn Rand novel.
I don’t know why I keep seeing his name. I was reading Reason when he was in kindergarten, and my subscription lapsed, forever, sometime before he reached junior high.
Don’t expect rational thought.
Blacks are holy, so people like Balko are less journalists than proselytizers of black holiness.
This myth says blacks are Eternal Blameless Victims. So, whatever happens must be spun as the fault of whites. Blackness has a tyrannical mental grip on the white mind. As it’s regarded sanctimoniously, it’s just plain wrong and EVIL to blame blacks for anything. Whatever is wrong with them must be explained in terms of White Evil.
Even though US is a democracy, it has its own sacraments and taboos. Just like the Soviet/Communist writers and journalists could never fault or blame Marxism or Leninism for the failures of the system, the Holy Negro Myth of the US says all problems with blacks must be spun to blame whites.
And yet, the fact that these progs are so pro-immigration suggests they are eager to replace blacks with mostly non-black immigrants.
You're just going to have a skewed idea about blacks if your experience is thinking that the rule is a noble Denzel Washington type struggling under racial oppression. One's view would be much different if you have occasion to regularly interact with typical and underclass blacks.
It so happens that it's within the job description for police to regularly interact with typical and underclass blacks, and their safety often depends upon not presuming that the hood is populated by noble Denzel characters. If your career is to pen autistic libertarian nonsense, your contact with blacks can be much more selective and relegated to situations in which the blacks are pre-selected for an ability to behave reasonably well among whites.
O/T
https://twitter.com/EuropeanNosta1/status/1021070699719544832
This is what bad trolling looks like. To achieve divide-and-conquer perhaps we should be saying praiseworthy things about Islam that trigger LGBT and feminists.
If people will not acknowledge the fact that blacks commit a wildly disproportionate amount of crime, then anything they say about law enforcement or the criminal justice system proceeds from false premises. And yet these same people dominate the public discussion.
Steve, can you do a post on this? (I'm a non-lawyer here, I won't defend "busybody-ism" at all, but, Chrissake, the Black folks here had easy "back-away" decisions they could have made.)Replies: @Chris Mallory, @Chris Mallory, @It's All Ball Bearings, @James Speaks
It has been reported that the busybody has a history of trying to pick fights and assaulting people in that parking lot. That was reported by the business owner.
The black woman had just as much right to stand her ground as the shooter did. He was the aggressor. Witnesses stated that the shooter had been yelling at the woman.
We don’t know what was said or what hand gestures the shooter made before the shove, the victim might have been fully justified in defending the female under his protection.
The shooter fired after the victim was backing up and trying to deescalate. It was a bad shoot.
On another forum someone who claims to live in the area said the local sheriff is not a fan of SYG and gave a pass on this case to try and make the law look bad.
If the shooter had minded his own business and walked on into the store there would not have been any issues at all.
Black guy started a fight he couldn’t finish. Open and shut case.Replies: @Chris Mallory
27-year-old white homeless convicted felon stabs two black sisters at the major BART transfer station in NW Oakland, killing the younger:
https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Manhunt-continues-for-suspected-killer-in-Oakland-13097698.php#photo-15905957
Some surprising sanity on the part of the family spokesman:
Daryle Allums, who spoke to reporters on behalf of the family and leads the “Stop killing our kids” movement in Oakland, urged those in the African American community to “stand down right now” and avoid jumping to conclusions on whether the attack was racially motivated.
“We don’t know if this was racist, we don’t know if this was random,” Allums said. “Let’s get this information to find out what really happened. Let’s find out the right facts to then be able to deal with this situation.”
However, The slaying of Nia Wilson was the third possible homicide connected to BART in just five days.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous
White, homeless, in the Bay Area, basically means insane, on substances, or both.
“BART” apparently stands for “bring a ready trigger”.
Steve, can you do a post on this? (I'm a non-lawyer here, I won't defend "busybody-ism" at all, but, Chrissake, the Black folks here had easy "back-away" decisions they could have made.)Replies: @Chris Mallory, @Chris Mallory, @It's All Ball Bearings, @James Speaks
Ok Jack, you leave your wife/gf and a couple of kids in the car while you run into the store to buy a pack of gum.
While you are checking out, someone comes into the store and reports that a nutcase is outside yelling at a woman in a car.
You exit the store and see the deranged nut yelling and making gestures at your family. He is blocking your route to your vehicle.
How do you respond? With a forceful push or by politely asking him to move?
" . . . [R]eported that the busybody has a history of trying to pick fights and assaulting people in that parking lot." That behavior sort of sounds like a guy deliberately picking a quarrel so as to use his weapon behind the stand-your-ground shield.
The black woman had just as much right to stand her ground as the shooter did. He was the aggressor. Witnesses stated that the shooter had been yelling at the woman.
We don't know what was said or what hand gestures the shooter made before the shove, the victim might have been fully justified in defending the female under his protection.
The shooter fired after the victim was backing up and trying to deescalate. It was a bad shoot.
On another forum someone who claims to live in the area said the local sheriff is not a fan of SYG and gave a pass on this case to try and make the law look bad.
If the shooter had minded his own business and walked on into the store there would not have been any issues at all.Replies: @JackOH, @It's All Ball Bearings, @27 year old
Chris, thanks, buddy! That does change things. (Yes, I was jumping to conclusions.)
Exactly. Just like corporal punishment needs to be brought back into schools. It’s the only hope.
I’d like to know more. Starting with what airports are hiring air traffic controllers with affirmative action?
Under President Obama, The FAA was directed to change the entrance requirements and entrance exam for applicants who wanted to be air traffic controllers. They specifically had to drastically reduce emphasis on science knowledge, scientific thinking and evidence of academic prowess.
In other words, the barriers to entry for that career were dumbed down so more black people could get in. The lack of non-whites was THE stated reason for doing this.
Now, I am too lazy to go find the source and proof of this. You will have to take my word for it. If you yourself go and do some research, you will find out I am right.
This crap started long ago, but I am sure BHO's minions accelerated it.Replies: @Mr. Anon
https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/06/02/obama-era-faa-hiring-rules-placed-air-traffic-controller-diversity-ahead-of-safety-lawyer-says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh9SxqsQdpoReplies: @Danindc
The guy’s ego was bruised more likely. It’s a shame but blacks also can’t go around attacking people and not suffer unfair consequences occasionally. Same with a George Zimmerman- if you can’t handle yourself in a fight, you probably shouldn’t confront ppl because you’re more likely to have use the gun when getting your ass kicked. Also why women shouldn’t be cops.
While you are checking out, someone comes into the store and reports that a nutcase is outside yelling at a woman in a car.
You exit the store and see the deranged nut yelling and making gestures at your family. He is blocking your route to your vehicle.
How do you respond? With a forceful push or by politely asking him to move?Replies: @JackOH
Chris, we’ll have to see how this plays out. Ohio, I think, still has the Castle Doctrine and a duty to retreat elsewhere outside the home. I was jumping way off the handle. Thanks again.
” . . . [R]eported that the busybody has a history of trying to pick fights and assaulting people in that parking lot.” That behavior sort of sounds like a guy deliberately picking a quarrel so as to use his weapon behind the stand-your-ground shield.
Hi Dan, in D.C.
Under President Obama, The FAA was directed to change the entrance requirements and entrance exam for applicants who wanted to be air traffic controllers. They specifically had to drastically reduce emphasis on science knowledge, scientific thinking and evidence of academic prowess.
In other words, the barriers to entry for that career were dumbed down so more black people could get in. The lack of non-whites was THE stated reason for doing this.
Now, I am too lazy to go find the source and proof of this. You will have to take my word for it. If you yourself go and do some research, you will find out I am right.
I know a guy who was a controller at Dulles. He told me that a female NAM almost directed a commercial flight into the airspace that was reserved for inbound Air Force One.
This crap started long ago, but I am sure BHO’s minions accelerated it.
Steve, can you do a post on this? (I'm a non-lawyer here, I won't defend "busybody-ism" at all, but, Chrissake, the Black folks here had easy "back-away" decisions they could have made.)Replies: @Chris Mallory, @Chris Mallory, @It's All Ball Bearings, @James Speaks
When keeping it real goes wrong.
He spent half his career in the Koch Brothers network, one of their many well paid DC hipster libertarians. From behind their private security staff, the Kochs complain a lot about the incarceration rate being too high.
Years before BLM perfected the practice, Balko specialized in promoting every local article about police excessive force he could find, and then advocated anti-police policies from his unrepresentative anecdotes.
The black woman had just as much right to stand her ground as the shooter did. He was the aggressor. Witnesses stated that the shooter had been yelling at the woman.
We don't know what was said or what hand gestures the shooter made before the shove, the victim might have been fully justified in defending the female under his protection.
The shooter fired after the victim was backing up and trying to deescalate. It was a bad shoot.
On another forum someone who claims to live in the area said the local sheriff is not a fan of SYG and gave a pass on this case to try and make the law look bad.
If the shooter had minded his own business and walked on into the store there would not have been any issues at all.Replies: @JackOH, @It's All Ball Bearings, @27 year old
This is why blacks should speak more loudly and with condemnation of all the thugs that confirm stereotypes of violent behavior. This dude didn’t deserve to die, but some whites might anticipate beatdowns and are quick to trigger for self-preservation.
Somewhat on topic, Boston now has its first black police commissioner. There's been a slight uptick in killings there recently, but that BPD has done a pretty good job of maintaining control and good relations with the black community. We'll see if that continues.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
"BART" apparently stands for "bring a ready trigger".Replies: @Lot
An article today on Breitbart says that SF spends about $33,000 per year per homeless resident. This isn’t some total social impact cost. Just what the city spends. Add in private spending, direct state and federal spending, crime and cleanup and medical costs, private security costs, and lower property values. Could be that each SF bum costs the other 99% of the city about $100,000 a year.
Dan, I went ahead and found some things for you:
https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/06/02/obama-era-faa-hiring-rules-placed-air-traffic-controller-diversity-ahead-of-safety-lawyer-says
For a newspaper reporter, his stories are pretty numerate.
I suspect that Balko is fully aware of the 20% rise in homicides, post-Ferguson, but is sticking with his series of articles on police misconduct, civil forfeiture and the militarization of police forces for one of two reasons.
Either he’s stuck in a groove that earns him a lot of praise and perhaps, speaking engagements, or, alternatively, the Washington Post editors and their chosen narrative will simply not let him do a series of articles on the rise in the number of homicide and the proximate causative factor.
“No one has any idea what to do about black violence.”
Here in Toronto they just call it “gun violence” as if guns are just magically floating around the city shooting at people like the drones in a Terminator movie.
Oh believe me the US media does that too.
Has anybody ever heard of the term “FIDO” (f*** it, drive on) used by the police to turn a blind eye to black misbehaviour?
And that doesn’t include the cost of flying some of them to Honolulu. One-way.
Steve, can you do a post on this? (I'm a non-lawyer here, I won't defend "busybody-ism" at all, but, Chrissake, the Black folks here had easy "back-away" decisions they could have made.)Replies: @Chris Mallory, @Chris Mallory, @It's All Ball Bearings, @James Speaks
On most of the news sites the video has been redacted. Look for the original that shows the boy friend advancing towards the shooter, who is on the ground. It looks like the boyfriend was not backing away, but was going in for a better advantage. He did not back away until the shooter produced a gun.
Moral: After throwing a man to the ground for yelling at your woman, do not move in for the kill.
Right, they don’t want criminal family members hassled, jailed and imprisoned. This doesn’t necessarily mean that they practice Charlestown, MA -level omerta. For murders, they want the police and the justice system.
There was an episode of THE FIRST 48 reality show where the white cops in a black urban area seemed to be really slow off the mark, indifferent and not likely to get anywhere in the first 48 hours. But, sure enough, someone phoned the homicide department and told the cops who the murderer was. The cops proceeded to beat the clock. Also, they easily convinced the murderer to write his confession.
Policies like the one below are now very common and widely practiced — they may in the long run result in more harm:
Amid race concerns, UMN curtails crime suspect descriptions
In a letter Wednesday to faculty, staff and students, Kaler said he has been persuaded that suspect descriptions “may unintentionally reinforce racist stereotypes of black men and other people of color as criminals and threats.”
Eloi-ism.
And now the Official Story from our mutual friend and credentialed expert,
The Man in the Yellow Hat: Yes, we sincerely apologize for any rapes, murders and massive property damage our special friends have caused to society. They didn’t really mean it. After centuries of abuse and being chained, they have been a little too ready to abuse the freedom they had their whole lives as coddled special spoiled mascots of Freedonia. We would like you to not expect them to obey the law and instead allow them to run freely around with the expectation that racism will be said repeatedly if you attempt to restrain them and defend yourselves. You might ask why. Don’t. That’s racism. Racism. Don’t make me say it again.
All the credentialed experts in Freedonia agree. Don’t be racist. And turn in all your guns.
You can trust us. We have cardboard that has our names printed on them.
You never know when it is going strike. They could be sitting right next to you on a bus, or walking down the street, when suddenly they pull out a gun, or cold cock you.
But it's not their fault. Do not blame them. They cannot control it. They carry it with them everywhere. Just pity them and (obviously) avoid them.
If any SJW accuses you of racism for e.g. crossing the street to avoid a group blacks, just tell them you don't have anything against them personally, you appreciate their historical suffering and respect the Legacy of Slavery which tortures them -- all of them -- to this very day, and can flare up with absolutely no notice.
OT (zu 90%)
338 and counting (http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/)!Replies: @eah
His “Warrior Cop” book, for one. I also liked him when he was at Reason.com, which was about a decade ago.
Somewhat OT: Black teenager, that killed DC restaurant manager while he was in Atlanta attending a wedding, was released by a judge after being convicted of another armed robbery.
Here is what she said when the prosecutor objected:
The judge was later showed pictures of the killer posing with guns on Instagram but nothing was done.
http://www.wsbtv.com/www.wsbtv.com/news/local/a-youths-second-chance-another-familys-tragedy/795782567
Just in case you think the judge is some black lady with a soft spot for black thugs.
https://www.fultoncourt.org/judges/viewjudge.php?id=7
White women are the natural and eternal enemy of the best male.
Tucker had a segment on this not too long ago. Hopefully someone at the admin has seen it and will reverse it.
Like Flip said, prison needs to be a place that even hardened criminals will prefer to avoid.
I’m also in favor of permanently sterilizing anyone convicted of a violent felony, at least as a bargaining chip to reduce their sentence, but this seems like it’s too radical to catch on in our present era. Among other criticisms, it would be labelled as racist if not genocidal given the certain racial “disparate impact.”
And the Dumbest Comment of the Day award goes to… Lot!
I suppose it’s possible that property values in SF would rise even more if the homeless population shrunk, but so what? They’re already absurdly high and rising at an astounding rate.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/sf.curbed.com/platform/amp/2018/4/5/17201888/san-francisco-median-home-house-price-average-2018
SF property owners are not victims. They’re not poor and they’re undeserving of our sympathy. “Boohoo, my house is only worth 1.9 mill, double what I aid for it in 2010.”
You poor thing! My shoulder is always here for you to cry on, Lot.
Besides, most of the homosexuals in SF have no kids. Their money has got to go somewhere. And homeless people have got to live somewhere. Might as well ne in a city of exorbitant property values and wealthy childless degenerates.
https://imagemacros.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/feels_good_man.jpgReplies: @AndrewR
Here is what she said when the prosecutor objected:The judge was later showed pictures of the killer posing with guns on Instagram but nothing was done.
http://www.wsbtv.com/www.wsbtv.com/news/local/a-youths-second-chance-another-familys-tragedy/795782567
Just in case you think the judge is some black lady with a soft spot for black thugs.
https://www.fultoncourt.org/judges/viewjudge.php?id=7Replies: @AndrewR, @Whiskey
Hindsight is always 20/20. Some people do take advantage of opportunities for rehabilitation. Others, obviously, don’t. There are no easy solutions. Insufficient punishment is just as bad as excessive punishment. A criminal whose punishment is excessive becomes a victim, as does the society which bears the costs of his excessive punishment.
In this case, however, it does seem that the judge was negligent in not enforcing the probation, in which case she should be held criminally responsible.
If you think that’s radical, I would support castrating violent felons. It would do many good things…they couldn’t reproduce and it would take away their aggression. Plus it would be a strong deterrent. I realize it would be considered cruel and unusual punishment which is why I favor the repeal of the Eighth Ammendment.
“following BLM’s biggest victories” – and these victories were what? A movement called Black Lives Matter which raises the number of dead blacks doesn’t seem prima facie to have many victories.
Serious question.
a) Obama/Hillary making speeches on police not being racist?
b) police staying in the donut shop and allowing the bad boys to operate with impunity?
c) major rioting and/or lethal attacks on police?
d) lots of SJWs at universities shouting at white people?
e) something else?
BLM succeeded bigly in getting policing pulled back. This has directly led to significant crime increases, not just more murders in dumps like Baltimore and St. Louis, but muggings and especially quality-of-life crimes in places where SWPLs actually want to live - like New York, Chicago, San Francisco, Oakland, Seattle, etc.. That all may yet lead to a pause or rollback of gentrification, or a bigger buy-off to accompany gentrification, which is probably what the BLM activists really wanted all along.
Here in Toronto they just call it "gun violence" as if guns are just magically floating around the city shooting at people like the drones in a Terminator movie.Replies: @Corn
“Here in Toronto they just call it “gun violence” as if guns are just magically floating around the city shooting at people like the drones in a Terminator movie.”
Oh believe me the US media does that too.
Blacks are holy, so people like Balko are less journalists than proselytizers of black holiness.
This myth says blacks are Eternal Blameless Victims. So, whatever happens must be spun as the fault of whites. Blackness has a tyrannical mental grip on the white mind. As it's regarded sanctimoniously, it's just plain wrong and EVIL to blame blacks for anything. Whatever is wrong with them must be explained in terms of White Evil.
Even though US is a democracy, it has its own sacraments and taboos. Just like the Soviet/Communist writers and journalists could never fault or blame Marxism or Leninism for the failures of the system, the Holy Negro Myth of the US says all problems with blacks must be spun to blame whites.
And yet, the fact that these progs are so pro-immigration suggests they are eager to replace blacks with mostly non-black immigrants.Replies: @Alec Leamas, @Art Deco
Too many people – and this includes the types who populate our curated opinion-making stations – form their ideas about blacks and race from entertainment media.
You’re just going to have a skewed idea about blacks if your experience is thinking that the rule is a noble Denzel Washington type struggling under racial oppression. One’s view would be much different if you have occasion to regularly interact with typical and underclass blacks.
It so happens that it’s within the job description for police to regularly interact with typical and underclass blacks, and their safety often depends upon not presuming that the hood is populated by noble Denzel characters. If your career is to pen autistic libertarian nonsense, your contact with blacks can be much more selective and relegated to situations in which the blacks are pre-selected for an ability to behave reasonably well among whites.
The black woman had just as much right to stand her ground as the shooter did. He was the aggressor. Witnesses stated that the shooter had been yelling at the woman.
We don't know what was said or what hand gestures the shooter made before the shove, the victim might have been fully justified in defending the female under his protection.
The shooter fired after the victim was backing up and trying to deescalate. It was a bad shoot.
On another forum someone who claims to live in the area said the local sheriff is not a fan of SYG and gave a pass on this case to try and make the law look bad.
If the shooter had minded his own business and walked on into the store there would not have been any issues at all.Replies: @JackOH, @It's All Ball Bearings, @27 year old
What has to happen before you cucks will finally take your own side?
Black guy started a fight he couldn’t finish. Open and shut case.
The white dude was clearly in the wrong here, he started the fight and is getting away with murder.Replies: @BenKenobi, @Charles Erwin Wilson
Black guy started a fight he couldn’t finish. Open and shut case.Replies: @Chris Mallory
Cuck? No, just someone who stands for right and wrong.
The white dude was clearly in the wrong here, he started the fight and is getting away with murder.
Then, you get knocked down, and your prescription is 'please sir beat me to a bloody pulp.'
You are why these events continue. An armed society is a polite society. And knocking someone down instead of asking what the issue is determines the outcome here.
Move to London, cuck-central, renounce your citizenship, and never look back - both you and we will be happier.Replies: @JackOH
27-year-old white homeless convicted felon stabs two black sisters at the major BART transfer station in NW Oakland, killing the younger:
https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Manhunt-continues-for-suspected-killer-in-Oakland-13097698.php#photo-15905957
Some surprising sanity on the part of the family spokesman:
Daryle Allums, who spoke to reporters on behalf of the family and leads the “Stop killing our kids” movement in Oakland, urged those in the African American community to “stand down right now” and avoid jumping to conclusions on whether the attack was racially motivated.
“We don’t know if this was racist, we don’t know if this was random,” Allums said. “Let’s get this information to find out what really happened. Let’s find out the right facts to then be able to deal with this situation.”
However, The slaying of Nia Wilson was the third possible homicide connected to BART in just five days.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous
Wow there’s a lot of iSteve material in these recent BART killings:
1) One of the killings involved a 21 year old named “Abdul Bey” who shoved a (presumably white) middle aged man. The man received a cut on his knee and walked away but died of an infection in the cut several days later.
1a) “Abdul Bey” sounds like someone in the Moorish Science Temple, an even wackier version of the Nation of Islam.
1b) The seats in BART trains are that dirty.
2) BART’s recent problems have dovetailed with those of SF in general. Open defecation and vomiting, junkies shooting up – it is all fallout from the great police pullback of recent times. It would be ironic if the lasting effect of BLM turns out to be to ruin SF as a whiteopia.
The little muni streetcars in SF look unsanitary because of the extreme crowding.
One way to promote better policing would be to go back to having two cops per patrol car. In a lot of jurisdictions, and for a long time, there has only been one. Cops might not be so itchy on the trigger finger if they had back-up right there. And criminals they pull-over might not be so inclined to shoot it out and flee.
This crap started long ago, but I am sure BHO's minions accelerated it.Replies: @Mr. Anon
So you’d think that the guy who flew on Air Force One, Barack Obama, wouldn’t think it was a good idea. That’s what I don’t get about the affirmative-action ATC story. Rich white liberals fly. They fly alot. More than NAMs, more than those poor flyover whites whom they despise. Don’t they realize the danger into which they are putting themselves? I guess they really are high on their own supply.
The Man in the Yellow Hat: Yes, we sincerely apologize for any rapes, murders and massive property damage our special friends have caused to society. They didn't really mean it. After centuries of abuse and being chained, they have been a little too ready to abuse the freedom they had their whole lives as coddled special spoiled mascots of Freedonia. We would like you to not expect them to obey the law and instead allow them to run freely around with the expectation that racism will be said repeatedly if you attempt to restrain them and defend yourselves. You might ask why. Don't. That's racism. Racism. Don't make me say it again.
All the credentialed experts in Freedonia agree. Don't be racist. And turn in all your guns.
You can trust us. We have cardboard that has our names printed on them.Replies: @Big Bill
It is “The Legacy of Slavery”.
You never know when it is going strike. They could be sitting right next to you on a bus, or walking down the street, when suddenly they pull out a gun, or cold cock you.
But it’s not their fault. Do not blame them. They cannot control it. They carry it with them everywhere. Just pity them and (obviously) avoid them.
If any SJW accuses you of racism for e.g. crossing the street to avoid a group blacks, just tell them you don’t have anything against them personally, you appreciate their historical suffering and respect the Legacy of Slavery which tortures them — all of them — to this very day, and can flare up with absolutely no notice.
Steve, does San Francisco have any of those drug treatment clinics that are luring junkies from across the country? LA has them (I think you wrote about them a while back) but does San Francisco?
Blacks feel they can act out against white people, as almost all whites bow and scrape before their black masters. It’s that rare whitey who doesn’t back down that brothers have to be extremely careful of. A black guy at my gym learned that lesson recently.
Somewhat on topic, Boston now has its first black police commissioner. There’s been a slight uptick in killings there recently, but that BPD has done a pretty good job of maintaining control and good relations with the black community. We’ll see if that continues.
Serious question.
a) Obama/Hillary making speeches on police not being racist?
b) police staying in the donut shop and allowing the bad boys to operate with impunity?
c) major rioting and/or lethal attacks on police?
d) lots of SJWs at universities shouting at white people?
e) something else?Replies: @Anonymous
Well your option b) there is their “victory” so far, but it actually directly leads to what might be a larger-scale victory for them.
BLM succeeded bigly in getting policing pulled back. This has directly led to significant crime increases, not just more murders in dumps like Baltimore and St. Louis, but muggings and especially quality-of-life crimes in places where SWPLs actually want to live – like New York, Chicago, San Francisco, Oakland, Seattle, etc.. That all may yet lead to a pause or rollback of gentrification, or a bigger buy-off to accompany gentrification, which is probably what the BLM activists really wanted all along.
Somewhat on topic, Boston now has its first black police commissioner. There's been a slight uptick in killings there recently, but that BPD has done a pretty good job of maintaining control and good relations with the black community. We'll see if that continues.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
Tell us about the lesson.
You and AndrewR sound like maniacs. The Constitution prohibits punishment like this for good reason.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/06/04/tucker_carlson_obama_administration_put_diversity_over_safety_in_hiring_air_traffic_controllers.html
This sort of comment will not aid your attempt to exit the ‘hold for special review’ list.
My nephew who worked for the Border Patrol in San Diego for a few years noted that when the Raiders played the Chargers (once a season), “the criminals were in town.” And conversely. when the Chargers played the Raiders, it was like a quiet vacation.
Go figure.
What is this commie crap? People who purchased SF property in 2010 are smarter than you, think about how you can make your own capital gainz comrade rather than resent them and take the side of drug addict street poopers. Capital gainz absolutely
The white dude was clearly in the wrong here, he started the fight and is getting away with murder.Replies: @BenKenobi, @Charles Erwin Wilson
Good.
I think property values and wages in SF are too high to run one on typical insurance reimbursement levels. Likey the fringes of the bay area has them. SF bums are more deranged looking than the typical ones in Southern California. Think Skid Row in LA.
My 5 or 6 times riding BART from the airport to elsewhere it was clean and well run. It was $10 one way, that deters some problems elsewhere seen on public transportation.
The little muni streetcars in SF look unsanitary because of the extreme crowding.
Here is what she said when the prosecutor objected:The judge was later showed pictures of the killer posing with guns on Instagram but nothing was done.
http://www.wsbtv.com/www.wsbtv.com/news/local/a-youths-second-chance-another-familys-tragedy/795782567
Just in case you think the judge is some black lady with a soft spot for black thugs.
https://www.fultoncourt.org/judges/viewjudge.php?id=7Replies: @AndrewR, @Whiskey
Duh White lady tingles for Black killer thug. A Restaurant manager? White ladies hate hate hate low status males.
White women are the natural and eternal enemy of the best male.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/06/02/obama-era-faa-hiring-rules-placed-air-traffic-controller-diversity-ahead-of-safety-lawyer-says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh9SxqsQdpoReplies: @Danindc
I never doubted you. I wondered which airports so I could stay away.
Unfortunately a dumbed-down pool of air traffic controllers will cause system-wide problems. If strict entry requirements to the career are not restored, we won't know which airports or airspaces to avoid.
Judy,Judy, Judy…Thank you for the reply. Love that show, beat the clock indeed.
https://imagemacros.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/feels_good_man.jpgReplies: @AndrewR
I’m a commie because I don’t sympathize with homeowners in one of the world’s most expensive cities for having possibly-slightly-lower property values than they would if they Auschwitz’d the homeless?
http://img06.deviantart.net/df58/i/2016/082/0/e/communist_genocide_apologists_by_mspaintcommunisms-d9w7fg8.pngReplies: @Anonymous
https://twitter.com/wusa9/status/1021538175381135366Replies: @ThirdWorldSteveReader
LOL, amazing how with all the “hatred” in America the press never seems to find one that is not a hoax.
338 and counting (http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/)!
Thanks for the link.
He did not offer any further explanation as to why he did it. -- I think we all know why he did it.
@9 Jim Don Bob: “Especially the law abiding blacks who have to live with this crap in their neighborhoods. I thought libs cared about them too?”
I’ll believe in the existence of a reasonable percent of “law-abiding blacks” just as soon as I find all those poor women who were kept from being computer programmers and all the Negroes kept from fulfilling their native genius due to racism. In other words, ZFG. If some Negroes are genuinely concerned about all the violence perpetrated by other Negroes, let’s hear them speak up and start “snitching.” What they object to is Negro on Negro violence; Negro on White is just social justice in action, as far as most of them are concerned.
No, you won't, because your mind is closed to empirical data and basic common sense. About 3.7% of all non-blacks are arrested each year and about 1o.7% of all blacks are arrested. About 2/3 of all arrests categorized according to suspicion are for vice crimes, common assaults, and public order offenses.
The white dude was clearly in the wrong here, he started the fight and is getting away with murder.Replies: @BenKenobi, @Charles Erwin Wilson
So talking, or maybe yelling, at someone who is illegally parked in a handicapped parking spot earns you a knockdown from a perp 9 inches taller than you, 90 pounds heavier than you, and twenty years younger than you.
Then, you get knocked down, and your prescription is ‘please sir beat me to a bloody pulp.’
You are why these events continue. An armed society is a polite society. And knocking someone down instead of asking what the issue is determines the outcome here.
Move to London, cuck-central, renounce your citizenship, and never look back – both you and we will be happier.
I'd probably want to know the reason why the woman in the car didn't just move to get away from this obnoxious White guy. She could, I'm speculating, say she saw the shooter's handgun "printing" through his clothing, and that she was confused and fearful as a consequence.
There's a lot more going on in the incident than I'd first thought when I flew off the handle when the video first appeared. My instinct as a juror (as a non-lawyer living in a "duty to retreat" state when in public) is to exonerate the White shooter, damn him under my breath, and see if "stand-your-ground cowboys" are a phenomenon that somehow needs addressed.
Looks like things got out of hand, but maybe this will make some think twice about the consequences of keeping it real with an armed citizenry.
On second thought, nah.
Thanks. I’m sorry I read the tone of your comment wrong.
Unfortunately a dumbed-down pool of air traffic controllers will cause system-wide problems. If strict entry requirements to the career are not restored, we won’t know which airports or airspaces to avoid.
Exactly.
338 and counting (http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/)!Replies: @eah
338 and counting
Thanks for the link.
He did not offer any further explanation as to why he did it. — I think we all know why he did it.
Then, you get knocked down, and your prescription is 'please sir beat me to a bloody pulp.'
You are why these events continue. An armed society is a polite society. And knocking someone down instead of asking what the issue is determines the outcome here.
Move to London, cuck-central, renounce your citizenship, and never look back - both you and we will be happier.Replies: @JackOH
Charles, as I’d mentioned above, we’ll have to see how this plays out. In the event the White shooter is prosecuted, I’d probably want to know, as Chris Mallory suggests, if the shooter were a “stand-your-ground cowboy”, somebody who was known to go out of his way to provoke quarrels on the flimsiest of citizen do-gooder pretexts.
I’d probably want to know the reason why the woman in the car didn’t just move to get away from this obnoxious White guy. She could, I’m speculating, say she saw the shooter’s handgun “printing” through his clothing, and that she was confused and fearful as a consequence.
There’s a lot more going on in the incident than I’d first thought when I flew off the handle when the video first appeared. My instinct as a juror (as a non-lawyer living in a “duty to retreat” state when in public) is to exonerate the White shooter, damn him under my breath, and see if “stand-your-ground cowboys” are a phenomenon that somehow needs addressed.
http://img06.deviantart.net/df58/i/2016/082/0/e/communist_genocide_apologists_by_mspaintcommunisms-d9w7fg8.pngReplies: @Anonymous
Nitpick: genuine Tankies didn’t like the Khmer Rouge and Pol Pot and supported the Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia.
Reversing the Obama air traffic controller policy was a direct benefit after the Flight 93 election.
No one has any idea what to do about black violence.
As we speak, no police precinct in the City of New York has a homicide rate higher than 15 per 100,000 and the rate for the whole city is 4 per 100,000. The homicide rate for Baltimore has bounced around a set point of 37 per 100,000 the last 15 years and has been running at 51 per 100,000 of late.
Thirty-five years ago, the homicide rate in Baltimore and that in New York were about the same – 20 per 100,000. Some organizations actually do know how to combat street crime, which is why one of these places now has a homicide rate 12x the other.
I'll believe in the existence of a reasonable percent of "law-abiding blacks" just as soon as I find all those poor women who were kept from being computer programmers and all the Negroes kept from fulfilling their native genius due to racism. In other words, ZFG. If some Negroes are genuinely concerned about all the violence perpetrated by other Negroes, let's hear them speak up and start "snitching." What they object to is Negro on Negro violence; Negro on White is just social justice in action, as far as most of them are concerned.Replies: @Art Deco
I’ll believe in the existence of a reasonable percent of “law-abiding blacks” just as soon as
No, you won’t, because your mind is closed to empirical data and basic common sense. About 3.7% of all non-blacks are arrested each year and about 1o.7% of all blacks are arrested. About 2/3 of all arrests categorized according to suspicion are for vice crimes, common assaults, and public order offenses.
What are the comparable demographics? I think New York has fewer American Southern descended blacks that it used to. My sense is that Caribbean and African blacks are more law abiding.
Blacks are holy, so people like Balko are less journalists than proselytizers of black holiness.
This myth says blacks are Eternal Blameless Victims. So, whatever happens must be spun as the fault of whites. Blackness has a tyrannical mental grip on the white mind. As it's regarded sanctimoniously, it's just plain wrong and EVIL to blame blacks for anything. Whatever is wrong with them must be explained in terms of White Evil.
Even though US is a democracy, it has its own sacraments and taboos. Just like the Soviet/Communist writers and journalists could never fault or blame Marxism or Leninism for the failures of the system, the Holy Negro Myth of the US says all problems with blacks must be spun to blame whites.
And yet, the fact that these progs are so pro-immigration suggests they are eager to replace blacks with mostly non-black immigrants.Replies: @Alec Leamas, @Art Deco
Balko is a soi-disant libertarian. In his position, he’s likely other-directed and deferential to the dominant opinion among the intelligentsia and their dependents and hangers-on, but their race-shtick not what gets him out of bed in the morning. You see these strands: the adolescent hostility to the police and authority figures generally, this affection for negotiated resolutions which are an artifact of theoretical inventiveness but have little or no empirical manifestation, and an indifference to the interaction between formal rules, cultural scripts, and behavior patterns. And, of course, he’s not alive to human variety and the array of motives a human person may have (some difficult to model). It’s all ‘assume people are widgets’.
The black population in New York is not declining in an absolute sense. It did decline proportionately from 25.2% to 24% between 2005 to 2016. Doing some extrapolation from from the changes in the West Indian population between 2010 and 2015, it appears that the share of New York blacks who are of West Indian ancestry went from 27% in 2005 to 30% in 2016. (Keep in mind that much of the Caribbean has quite high homicide rates, Jamaica especially). That sort of modest demographic shift isn’t going to explain why the homicide rate has declined by 82% since 1990.