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From WBUR:

Why Boston Has A Confederate Monument — And Why You Can’t See It Right Now
August 16, 2017
Louise Kennedy

Take a boat to Georges Island in Boston Harbor, and you’ll see something you might not expect: a Confederate monument.

Actually, right now you won’t see it. The stone, the only Confederate monument in Massachusetts, has been boarded up since June while the state figures out what to do with it — a question that has new urgency in the wake of last weekend’s violence in Charlottesville.

Uh-oh, I see a chink in the wooden box that could let the Evil Spirits out.

The granite block, which sits outside Fort Warren on Georges Island, lists 13 Confederate soldiers who died there as prisoners.

Putting this POW grave marker in a wooden box is a start. But is mere wood strong enough to hold in its Evil Spirit emanations? Think of the children of Boston and even, indeed, New England being ritually polluted by its presence.

I’m not sure what the solution is for de-polluting the site, but all options must be on the table, including tactical nuclear weapons.

Perhaps the most moderate solution for re-sanctifying the site would be to round up all existing copies of Ken Burns’ PBS Civil War documentary from the Moral Dark Ages of the early 1990s and burn them on the spot. Think of all the Ken Burns VHS tapes sitting in drawers across America sending out their Hate Waves:

 
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  1. Auction off the thing, have the buyer move it elsewhere.

    Next question?

    • Replies: @Rifleman
    https://twitter.com/iamcolinquinn/status/898270165506285569
  2. We are going to replace cowardly racists

    https://mobile.twitter.com/KFILE/status/898912470479364096

    That CNN blackmail war you guys were sure was successful!

    • Troll: German_reader
  3. Perhaps the best solution is to demolish Boston.

  4. Destroying the monuments isn’t enough! The remains must be dug up, ground into dust and used a road cinders!

    • Replies: @El Dato
    That would be too much like a Holocaust of the Stones.

    Checkmate! What do!
    , @Lurker
    But those roads might facilitate the Dodge wheels of bigotry?!

    Best that the cinders be launched into space - though there would remain the risk of Hate Particles falling back to earth.
    , @Jake
    Obviously!.
  5. This little piece of crap from the grievance industry has to be seen to be believed:

    http://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2017/08/excruciatingly-woke.html

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Thanks, I'll post.
    , @anonymous

    It has been dubbed the Great American Eclipse, and along most of its path, there live almost no black people.
     
    On the brigh … dark side, it is passing directly over Ferguson, Missouri. I'm thinking it shouldbe called the Michael Brown Memorial Eclipse?
  6. And then we’ll have to burn all of Shebly Foote’s books, since he was a white southerner who refused to condemn his Confederate ancestors.

  7. Didn’t Aquila Glasscock, Mosby’s 43 Battalionn Virginia Cavalry, already suffer enough?

  8. @Peripatetic commenter
    This little piece of crap from the grievance industry has to be seen to be believed:

    http://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2017/08/excruciatingly-woke.html

    Thanks, I’ll post.

  9. @Peripatetic commenter
    This little piece of crap from the grievance industry has to be seen to be believed:

    http://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2017/08/excruciatingly-woke.html

    It has been dubbed the Great American Eclipse, and along most of its path, there live almost no black people.

    On the brigh … dark side, it is passing directly over Ferguson, Missouri. I’m thinking it shouldbe called the Michael Brown Memorial Eclipse?

  10. I’m not sure what the solution is for de-polluting the site

    Where are Leslie Jones and Ghostbusterettes when we really need them?

    • Replies: @Olorin
    Tormenting children in cancer wards.
  11. Uh-oh, I see a chink in the wooden box that could let the Evil Spirits out.

    Really….”chink”?

  12. Eventually, through the sheer persistence of social justice totalitarianism, no doubt with the assistance of Google and Facebook, we will all accept that the United States has no legitimate history, no history deserving study, reference or acknowledgment, before the birth of Martin Luther King Jr.

    In 2016, Louisiana State Rep. Barbara Norton (D) led the charge against HB 1035, a measure that would require local schools to have students in grades four to six recite a specified section of the Declaration of Independence after the current daily period of silent prayer or meditation and the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance. The bill, introduced by state Rep. Valarie Hodges (R), would require students in the specified grades to recite the following passage:

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

    Hodges, however, tabled her bill under pressure from African-American colleagues Norton and State Rep. Pat Smith (D), who argued that school children should not be required to recite words that were written during a time in history when slavery was prevalent.

    Norton said directly to Hodges:

    One thing I do know is, all men are not created equal. When I think back in 1776, July the 4th, African-Americans were slaves, and for you to bring a bill to request that our children will recite the Declaration, I think is a little bit unfair to us to ask those children to recite something that’s not the truth.

    “Then you don’t think all men are created equal?” Hodges asked Norton.

    “For you to ask our children to repeat the Declaration stating that all mens [sic] are free – I think that’s unfair,” Norton continued, adding:

    “In 1776, Dr. King was not even born. African-Americans were in slavery, so since they were in slavery, the Declaration of Independence say we are ‘all created equal,’ we were not created equal because in 1776, July the 4th, I nor you nor any of us were born, nor was Dr. King born, so we were in slavery, and to have our children repeat again and again documents that were not even validated, I don’t think that that’s fair.”

    • Replies: @donut
    Negros aren't even useful idiots .
    , @AndrewR
    People get the government they deserve.
  13. @Njguy73
    Auction off the thing, have the buyer move it elsewhere.

    Next question?

  14. Anonymous [AKA "David Fairfaz"] says:

    Remember when John Ashcroft covered up a nude statues’ boobs for a speech? That was considered the looniest thing that anyone in government had ever done. The dressing of the statue was in public discourse for months and Mr. Ashcroft became the butt of jokes on every late night show.

    Covering up stone boobs is insane, putting a plaque in a wooden prison is just common sense. Imagine if a person of color saw it and jumped into the bay (there’s a good chance you’d never see that young man or woman again because swimming is also a racist past time, like putting up plaques).

    • Replies: @al gore rhythms
    "Remember when John Ashcroft covered up a nude statues’ boobs for a speech?"

    More of Western culture thrown down the Mammary hole.
  15. @anonymous
    Destroying the monuments isn't enough! The remains must be dug up, ground into dust and used a road cinders!

    That would be too much like a Holocaust of the Stones.

    Checkmate! What do!

  16. UNITED DAUGHTERS OF THE CONFEDERACY: http://www.hqudc.org/

    Their shop is closed, and they don’t seem to accept donations.

    You can subscribe to their magazine.

    http://www.hqudc.org/udc-magazine/

    Incidentally, they fly the ‘Stars and Bars’ not one of the later flags or the Bonnie Blue. It looks like they are partial toward wearing hats.

    Just for fun (at the expense of Boston):

    It’s Been 10 Years Since the Great Mooninite Panic of 2007
    Do you remember where you were?

    http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2017/01/31/boston-mooninite-panic-2007/

    Not to mention the bomb brothers lock down.

  17. Put a tent around it and allow it to be viewed only by adults who can establish a legitimate scholarly reason for doing so (preferably, because they are working on a book about systemic racism in the granite-quarrying industry).

  18. @anonymous
    Destroying the monuments isn't enough! The remains must be dug up, ground into dust and used a road cinders!

    But those roads might facilitate the Dodge wheels of bigotry?!

    Best that the cinders be launched into space – though there would remain the risk of Hate Particles falling back to earth.

    • Replies: @Shitposter
    We must launch the Confederate Monuments into black holes.

    Hmmmm....... Black Holes. Is that a fitting end to these objects of racist oppression, or is the term "black hole" derogatory towards African Americans. Watch the next episode of Neil DeGrasse Tyson to find out!
  19. Bring in an exorcist (from the SJW cult, not Roman Catholic)!

    The power of Trigglypuff compels you!
    The power of Trigglypuff compels you!
    The power of Trigglypuff compels you!

    Seriously, the point is well made. What phase change occurred in our culture that required the monument to be hidden as if it were some sort of porn when it was proudly displayed a short time ago?

  20. Better to play it safe, I say we nuke it from orbit.

  21. The defacing of Confederate POW grave markers is actually more extreme than what we see in Europe. I don’t think any European governments have been defacing German WW2 graves?

    • Replies: @German_reader
    No, if something like that happens at all, it's by vandals acting on their own.
    But as I mentioned in another thread there are now even large cemeteries for the recovered remains of Wehrmacht soldiers in Russia. The fanatic vindictiveness of US liberals looks all the more extreme by comparison. The only analogue I can think of is the Spanish left's obsession with their civil war.
    , @dearieme
    If you visit some of the Oxbridge colleges you'll see a plaque commemorating the college members who died fighting for Britain in WWI. You may also see a smaller plaque commemorating those who died fighting for Germany. Perish the thought that SJWs should learn about civilised behaviour from such an example.
    , @Jake
    Perhaps they require some American black, Jewish, Yankee WASP and Moslem senses of justice.
  22. So many Confederate monuments and memorials are the work of the United Daughters of the Confederacy, which has been successful at raising money, navigating local politics and zoning issues, etc. They succeeded in quietly getting monuments put up all over the country. Right now, it looks like they have met their match in the BLM/SJW/mob that is now tearing down their work. They might have been both too successful – people seem genuinely surprised to find Confederate monuments in their midst – and not successful enough, in that all the statues, etc., have not seemed to create a durable reverence for the Confederates.

  23. Here is another inspirational idea, from Manisha Sinha, Draper Chair in American History at the University of Connecticut and author of The Slave’s Cause: A History of Abolition: take down the statutes of the dictators and tyrants, smash them, and reconfigure them as new pieces of art. Now that is good history.

    Ms. Sinha on the importance of removing reverent symbols of the Confederacy – regardless of the political motivation to do so and where those symbols belong now.

    I do think that the US has never really reckoned with the history and meaning of the Confederacy the way that the Germans have reckoned with the history of Naziism. They had an intense de-Nazification program which included not displaying Nazi symbols in public spaces, and I think it’s about time the US did the same.

    What should US governments do with these monuments, once they’re removed?

    There have been instances in Germany and Eastern Europe where people have taken down statutes of dictators and tyrants, smashed them, and reconfigured them as new pieces of art. With their broken pieces. I think that may be a good way for us to deal with our own tyrants, our own symbols of people whose terrible views on slavery and black people have not received the same kind of airing.

    I am completely against the multicultural and pluralistic idea: let the statue be here and then have the statue of Frederick Douglass next to him. In fact, Douglass would be rather uncomfortable with that because he was very much against commemorating Confederates who he saw as treasonous people.

  24. @Simon in London
    The defacing of Confederate POW grave markers is actually more extreme than what we see in Europe. I don't think any European governments have been defacing German WW2 graves?

    No, if something like that happens at all, it’s by vandals acting on their own.
    But as I mentioned in another thread there are now even large cemeteries for the recovered remains of Wehrmacht soldiers in Russia. The fanatic vindictiveness of US liberals looks all the more extreme by comparison. The only analogue I can think of is the Spanish left’s obsession with their civil war.

  25. @Simon in London
    The defacing of Confederate POW grave markers is actually more extreme than what we see in Europe. I don't think any European governments have been defacing German WW2 graves?

    If you visit some of the Oxbridge colleges you’ll see a plaque commemorating the college members who died fighting for Britain in WWI. You may also see a smaller plaque commemorating those who died fighting for Germany. Perish the thought that SJWs should learn about civilised behaviour from such an example.

  26. @anonymous
    Destroying the monuments isn't enough! The remains must be dug up, ground into dust and used a road cinders!

    Obviously!.

  27. @Simon in London
    The defacing of Confederate POW grave markers is actually more extreme than what we see in Europe. I don't think any European governments have been defacing German WW2 graves?

    Perhaps they require some American black, Jewish, Yankee WASP and Moslem senses of justice.

  28. Monument or memorial? Funny the left /globalist and alleged smart folks in MSM can’t distinguish between that anymore.

  29. @CCZ
    Eventually, through the sheer persistence of social justice totalitarianism, no doubt with the assistance of Google and Facebook, we will all accept that the United States has no legitimate history, no history deserving study, reference or acknowledgment, before the birth of Martin Luther King Jr.

    In 2016, Louisiana State Rep. Barbara Norton (D) led the charge against HB 1035, a measure that would require local schools to have students in grades four to six recite a specified section of the Declaration of Independence after the current daily period of silent prayer or meditation and the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance. The bill, introduced by state Rep. Valarie Hodges (R), would require students in the specified grades to recite the following passage:

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

    Hodges, however, tabled her bill under pressure from African-American colleagues Norton and State Rep. Pat Smith (D), who argued that school children should not be required to recite words that were written during a time in history when slavery was prevalent.

    Norton said directly to Hodges:

    One thing I do know is, all men are not created equal. When I think back in 1776, July the 4th, African-Americans were slaves, and for you to bring a bill to request that our children will recite the Declaration, I think is a little bit unfair to us to ask those children to recite something that’s not the truth.

    “Then you don’t think all men are created equal?” Hodges asked Norton.

    “For you to ask our children to repeat the Declaration stating that all mens [sic] are free – I think that’s unfair,” Norton continued, adding:

    “In 1776, Dr. King was not even born. African-Americans were in slavery, so since they were in slavery, the Declaration of Independence say we are ‘all created equal,’ we were not created equal because in 1776, July the 4th, I nor you nor any of us were born, nor was Dr. King born, so we were in slavery, and to have our children repeat again and again documents that were not even validated, I don’t think that that’s fair.”
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNiiFOj2lEc

    Negros aren’t even useful idiots .

  30. @Lurker
    But those roads might facilitate the Dodge wheels of bigotry?!

    Best that the cinders be launched into space - though there would remain the risk of Hate Particles falling back to earth.

    We must launch the Confederate Monuments into black holes.

    Hmmmm……. Black Holes. Is that a fitting end to these objects of racist oppression, or is the term “black hole” derogatory towards African Americans. Watch the next episode of Neil DeGrasse Tyson to find out!

  31. Bad Juju?

    Isn’t that Antyantysemitiksemitik?

  32. There will be fewer problems like this once all writing is converted to emojis.

    When that process is completed, things will be doubleplusgood = 🙂 🙂

  33. @CCZ
    Eventually, through the sheer persistence of social justice totalitarianism, no doubt with the assistance of Google and Facebook, we will all accept that the United States has no legitimate history, no history deserving study, reference or acknowledgment, before the birth of Martin Luther King Jr.

    In 2016, Louisiana State Rep. Barbara Norton (D) led the charge against HB 1035, a measure that would require local schools to have students in grades four to six recite a specified section of the Declaration of Independence after the current daily period of silent prayer or meditation and the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance. The bill, introduced by state Rep. Valarie Hodges (R), would require students in the specified grades to recite the following passage:

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

    Hodges, however, tabled her bill under pressure from African-American colleagues Norton and State Rep. Pat Smith (D), who argued that school children should not be required to recite words that were written during a time in history when slavery was prevalent.

    Norton said directly to Hodges:

    One thing I do know is, all men are not created equal. When I think back in 1776, July the 4th, African-Americans were slaves, and for you to bring a bill to request that our children will recite the Declaration, I think is a little bit unfair to us to ask those children to recite something that’s not the truth.

    “Then you don’t think all men are created equal?” Hodges asked Norton.

    “For you to ask our children to repeat the Declaration stating that all mens [sic] are free – I think that’s unfair,” Norton continued, adding:

    “In 1776, Dr. King was not even born. African-Americans were in slavery, so since they were in slavery, the Declaration of Independence say we are ‘all created equal,’ we were not created equal because in 1776, July the 4th, I nor you nor any of us were born, nor was Dr. King born, so we were in slavery, and to have our children repeat again and again documents that were not even validated, I don’t think that that’s fair.”
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNiiFOj2lEc

    People get the government they deserve.

  34. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Dread Cthulhu, the Great Old One, that hideous shape-shifting starspawn, lives on in the very hoary stone of Confederate monuments, from whence his essence of overpowering evil too maddening to be comprehended by the mind of man seeps out from his nightmarish dreams when the cold stars of the elder things are suitable aligned in the dark still night.

    Earth must be saved from this greatest of evil. We must act.

    Both Cthulhu and Confederacy start with C! Coincidence? I think not!

  35. Grants are being written, sinecures secured, dissertations proposed. The news business has become a rainmaker for even more people, so we should all be thankful for that, with the underemployed now able to feel good about doing their part for the economy.

  36. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Are we living in 1984 or in Idiocracy? I’m confused.

    Maybe the reality is that totalitarianism is always so batsh*t crazy that nobody takes it seriously until it is too late. I’m not sure.

    On one level, I think I’m starting to understand the people who cannot grasp the fact that Trump is President. It seems so absurd that it cannot possibly be true. I used to despise the guy myself, as a gross vulgarian, and I can’t say that my opinion has ever really changed, but in the end I voted for him with enthusiasm, and knew he would win long before the media masters did. But I can grasp the fact that someone who did not follow my trajectory can make no sense of Trump as President. I think that their incomprehension in some sense aligns with my own incomprehension when considering how elected officials and their minions can deem it appropriate to board up a war memorial to POW’s, some of whom died in captivity. I prefer Trump. He may be somewhat animalistic, but he’s alive, and recognizably human.

    • Replies: @Perplexed
    "He may be somewhat animalistic"

    And your shit doesn't stink?
    , @al gore rhythms
    "when considering how elected officials and their minions can deem it appropriate to board up a war memorial to POW’s, some of whom died in captivity.."

    Didn't the South have conscription in that war? Those young men may have had no choice but to fight anyway.
  37. @Anonymous
    Are we living in 1984 or in Idiocracy? I'm confused.

    Maybe the reality is that totalitarianism is always so batsh*t crazy that nobody takes it seriously until it is too late. I'm not sure.

    On one level, I think I'm starting to understand the people who cannot grasp the fact that Trump is President. It seems so absurd that it cannot possibly be true. I used to despise the guy myself, as a gross vulgarian, and I can't say that my opinion has ever really changed, but in the end I voted for him with enthusiasm, and knew he would win long before the media masters did. But I can grasp the fact that someone who did not follow my trajectory can make no sense of Trump as President. I think that their incomprehension in some sense aligns with my own incomprehension when considering how elected officials and their minions can deem it appropriate to board up a war memorial to POW's, some of whom died in captivity. I prefer Trump. He may be somewhat animalistic, but he's alive, and recognizably human.

    “He may be somewhat animalistic”

    And your shit doesn’t stink?

  38. @Achilles

    I’m not sure what the solution is for de-polluting the site
     
    Where are Leslie Jones and Ghostbusterettes when we really need them?

    Tormenting children in cancer wards.

  39. @Anonymous
    Remember when John Ashcroft covered up a nude statues' boobs for a speech? That was considered the looniest thing that anyone in government had ever done. The dressing of the statue was in public discourse for months and Mr. Ashcroft became the butt of jokes on every late night show.

    Covering up stone boobs is insane, putting a plaque in a wooden prison is just common sense. Imagine if a person of color saw it and jumped into the bay (there's a good chance you'd never see that young man or woman again because swimming is also a racist past time, like putting up plaques).

    “Remember when John Ashcroft covered up a nude statues’ boobs for a speech?”

    More of Western culture thrown down the Mammary hole.

  40. @Anonymous
    Are we living in 1984 or in Idiocracy? I'm confused.

    Maybe the reality is that totalitarianism is always so batsh*t crazy that nobody takes it seriously until it is too late. I'm not sure.

    On one level, I think I'm starting to understand the people who cannot grasp the fact that Trump is President. It seems so absurd that it cannot possibly be true. I used to despise the guy myself, as a gross vulgarian, and I can't say that my opinion has ever really changed, but in the end I voted for him with enthusiasm, and knew he would win long before the media masters did. But I can grasp the fact that someone who did not follow my trajectory can make no sense of Trump as President. I think that their incomprehension in some sense aligns with my own incomprehension when considering how elected officials and their minions can deem it appropriate to board up a war memorial to POW's, some of whom died in captivity. I prefer Trump. He may be somewhat animalistic, but he's alive, and recognizably human.

    “when considering how elected officials and their minions can deem it appropriate to board up a war memorial to POW’s, some of whom died in captivity..”

    Didn’t the South have conscription in that war? Those young men may have had no choice but to fight anyway.

  41. The invisible demon eye of institutional racism (or something):

    Just an excuse to drop this scene from underrated gem Predator 2, which has an excellent, unique score that rivals and complements that of the first movie.

  42. I think Boston needs to apologize to the South.

    Men die in combat. That is what makes war hell.

    But these men were POWs; they surrendered to the Yankees and were taken captive.

    They just “died.” Not in combat. How did they die? Young military age men?

    I think the Yankees need to acknowledge that on that island, as elsewhere, Confederate POWs died by the thousands from neglect and abuse. It was a Union war crime and should be considered as such.

    One does not have to admire the Confederacy to acknowledge a Union war crime.

    The monument should be maintained with an admission of Yankee guilt.

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