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I think he meant: “If Biden loses, mass unrest is more likely …”

From The Atlantic:

The Democrats May Not Be Able to Concede
If Trump wins, especially after losing the popular vote, the left may draw the wrong conclusions.

10:30 AM ET

Shadi Hamid
Contributing writer at The Atlantic and Brookings Institution senior fellow

This is the era of expecting the worst while hoping for the merely tolerable. Some might say that the worst is already happening—economic disaster and 190,000 dead from a pandemic—while the president and his surrogates insist, in a feat of self-delusion, that the “best is yet to come.” As someone who has argued against catastrophism—I don’t believe Donald Trump is a fascist or a dictator in the making, and I don’t believe America is a failed state—I find myself truly worried about only one scenario: that Trump will win reelection and Democrats and others on the left will be unwilling, even unable, to accept the result.

A loss by Joe Biden under these circumstances is the worst case not because Trump will destroy America (he can’t), but because it is the outcome most likely to undermine faith in democracy, resulting in more of the social unrest and street battles that cities including Portland, Oregon, and Seattle have seen in recent months. For this reason, strictly law-and-order Republicans who have responded in dismay to scenes of rioting and looting have an interest in Biden winning—even if they could never bring themselves to vote for him.

In other words, rioters should be given a veto over Presidential elections.

Sounds like a plan!

 
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  1. If that’s their best argument…

  2. >undermine faith in democracy
    Rioters don’t gave any faith in, or understanding of, Western civilization (“democracy” or “democratic norms”). If they did they wouldn’t be setting buildings on fire and attacking random people. Their “faith in democracy” is like a bratty child’s “faith in Santa Claus:” morality commands its destruction.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
  3. Steve, comments on the shooting of two LA Sheriffs deputies and BLM trying to finish them off at the hospital? The NPR reporter interfering with the arrests of blm people blocking and trying to enter the ER?

    Blm seems all in on killing cops. There was that hot redhead who lives in a mansion trying to seize luxury Manhattan apts.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Whiskey

    This method of walking up to distracted, "inactive" cops, who are chatting or snacking in their squad car, has been used before. It should be looked upon as a standard tactic and cops nationwide should be cautioned against it. Around blacks, never relax.

    , @Neoconned
    @Whiskey

    Anybody got a link to the story about trying to seize Manhattan apts?

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    , @Libre
    @Whiskey

    Two fewer cops to arrest the next Kyle.

  4. Goodfella’s 2020:

    “That’s a nice mom and pop business ya got there. What? Ya spent 20 years building it from scratch? Ya don’t say! Sure would be a damned shame if ya voted for Trunmp, if ya know what I mean…”

    • Agree: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Anonymous

    Either The Nation or Jacobin put out an article saying small business owners aren't much better than the Waltons.

    Replies: @res

  5. Hamid is just reiterating the DNC Platform. Vote for Biden or your city will burn and Covid is not going away. Biden wins and all is good, the lamb lays down with the lion.

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @Buffalo Joe

    Except Harris can't call off a blacks vs cops war. It's on already. Doesn't matter who wins. Either most/all blacks are deport ed to Africa or cops are abolished and it's rule by Divine Right of Kangz.

    Hard to see any compromise or truce. Corporate America is all Kangz though so the Kangz have money and power advantage.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Neoconned, @Libre

    , @Anonymous
    @Buffalo Joe

    You have two choices, America:

    1. Elect Biden and your city will burn.
    2. Elect Trump and your city will burn, but Trump will tweet his outrage while not doing anything about it.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    , @Dago Shoes
    @Buffalo Joe

    Don't forget the bernie bros … the communist 'organizers' of bernie's campaign who said months ago that -- no matter the outcome in the election -- there would be massive bloodshed across the United States.

    Time to mobilize … our Nation is under attack.

    In these times, I recall the words of Nikita Khrushchev -- 'We Will Bury You … without ever firing a shot.'

  6. Prediction for the upcoming SELECTION

    Trump wins and (((Antifa/BLM goons))) will riot because they will be pissed and they think they are untouchable.

    Biden wins and (((Antifa/BLM goons))) will riot because they will be happy and will really think they are untouchable at that point and time.

    Expect more riots from these (((goons.)))

    • Agree: AndrewR, Charlotte
    • Replies: @Ripple Earthdevil
    @Trinity

    For chrissakes the vast majority of Antifa goons are not Jewish.

    , @Elmer T. Jones
    @Trinity

    Wrong. Trump wins, Democrats will dress up like women's anatomy and hold a parade. Trump loses, Democrats will dress up like women's anatomy and hold a parade.

    , @sayless
    @Trinity

    Trump will win, they will start to riot, and the instigators will be mopped up overnight.

  7. If we don’t give the mob a voice in deciding elections our democracy is endangered.
    Also our precious bodily fluids!

  8. If they win by terrorism, they will rule by terrorism. Nobody ever got mellower by getting power.

    That said, I wonder if this argument will actually win any votes?

    • Replies: @Redman
    @Joe Magarac

    It seems like an argument aimed at women. Every male knows that if you give into the bully, you’re done. You learn it as a kid in the playground.

    It’s also like saying all LEOs (and the military) should just give up on the idea of protecting and defending. Otherwise you might enrage the bad guys and cause them to do more harm.

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    , @David
    @Joe Magarac

    No votes, but it might make some rioters think that they have an especial right to riot when Biden loses. "When you put your hand in a pile of mush that moments before was your fondest hope, you'll know what to do."

  9. Vote for Biden or else antifa (which is an idea, not an organization) will continue what it’s been doing (i.e. march in peaceful protest against injustice) because it (the idea) is so horrified at Biden’s loss (though of course antifa has nothing to do with the Democrat Party).

  10. I fully expect the riots and murders of policemen to get worse, at least initially, if Trump wins. So the guy is probably correct on that aspect. That is not a reason to vote Biden though. At some point, this country needs to do a serious crackdown on the insurrectionist activities and propaganda (something more than tweets).

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
    • Replies: @Redman
    @Mike_from_SGV

    That’s the counter argument to this theory.

    A vote for Trump means a severe (post-election) crackdown which many (most?) people have been praying for for some time.

  11. @Buffalo Joe
    Hamid is just reiterating the DNC Platform. Vote for Biden or your city will burn and Covid is not going away. Biden wins and all is good, the lamb lays down with the lion.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @Anonymous, @Dago Shoes

    Except Harris can’t call off a blacks vs cops war. It’s on already. Doesn’t matter who wins. Either most/all blacks are deport ed to Africa or cops are abolished and it’s rule by Divine Right of Kangz.

    Hard to see any compromise or truce. Corporate America is all Kangz though so the Kangz have money and power advantage.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Whiskey

    I’m afraid so, politicians were only able to control the 1960s cop vs. black via massive domestic spending.

    https://www.amazon.com/Age-Entitlement-America-Since-Sixties/dp/1501106899


    The borrowing power of the Baby Boom generation was invested in avoiding the choices that the confrontations of the 1960s had placed before the country. What the debt paid for was social peace, which had come to be understood as synonymous with the various Great Society programs launched by Lyndon Johnson in the two years after the Kennedy assassination. We should understand the Great Society as the institutional form into which the civil rights impulse hardened, a transfer from whites to blacks of the resources necessary to make desegregation viable. Desegregation was, as we have said, the most massive undertaking of any kind in the history of the United States. Like any massive undertaking, it required endurance, patience, and prohibitive expense. Almost everyone who did not benefit from it was going to be made poorer by it. Now it was being presented to the public as the merest down payment on what Americans owed.
     
    Of course, it didn’t work and now there’s no money/resources left to keep the monster sedated.

    Replies: @Thomas, @Neoconned, @Hamlet's Ghost

    , @Neoconned
    @Whiskey

    WE WUZ KANGZ!!!

    , @Libre
    @Whiskey

    The best result for whites is they neutralize each other. I don't understand why this is so difficult for the right.

  12. If Trump wins, especially after losing the popular vote, the left may draw the wrong conclusions.

    My greatest wish is for Trump to lose the popular vote by 5 million or so and squeak it out in the electoral college. I can dream.

    • Replies: @Marty T
    @Daniel H

    Or 269-269 and the House decides state by state.

    Anyway the riots may get worse if Trump wins. Ok, then it will be time for Trump to order the military to shoot the scum on sight. That will put a stop to it real quick. But I don't see enough on our side saying what needs to be said.

    Replies: @Prester John, @res

  13. @Whiskey
    Steve, comments on the shooting of two LA Sheriffs deputies and BLM trying to finish them off at the hospital? The NPR reporter interfering with the arrests of blm people blocking and trying to enter the ER?

    Blm seems all in on killing cops. There was that hot redhead who lives in a mansion trying to seize luxury Manhattan apts.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Neoconned, @Libre

    This method of walking up to distracted, “inactive” cops, who are chatting or snacking in their squad car, has been used before. It should be looked upon as a standard tactic and cops nationwide should be cautioned against it. Around blacks, never relax.

  14. This is respectable conservatism. Always on the back foot.

  15. Remember, if Trump wins, Democrats may not be able to concede.

    But if Democrats win, that scoundrel Trump will refuse to concede!

    • Agree: El Dato
    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Almost Missouri

    The current Democratic Party leadership increasingly looks like the French Directorate from before Napoleon took over France. (Or, the early years of the Iranian Islamic Republic for that matter.)

    https://wp-media.tellibrary.org/2018/03/1024px-The_Effects_of_British_Valour_on_the_French_Directory_MET_DP872684.jpg

    The French Directorate could only maintain cohesion and any semblance of political control via continuous wars and foreign threats. Otherwise the internal division would cause the whole system to collapse.

  16. So, if I understand correctly what the MSM is telling us:
    – One political party’s supporters will engage in mass organized violence if it loses the upcoming election.
    – But the other party is fascist and led by a dangerous dictator who wants to overthrow democracy.

  17. Thinly veiled desperation?

  18. I’m starting to think they actually don’t want Trump to just lose and accept it

    Could it be the color revolution is not the backup plan, its the primary plan?

    If you have a crisis and a stolen election and a coup to remove the dictator, then you get to have a “provisional government” that can basically do anything it wants to, without having to even pretend to care about the existing bill of rights, existing laws, existing structures, checks/balances, etc. And then at the end of the provisional government comes a new constitution where they formalize everything.

    • Agree: bruce county
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @Not My Economy


    If you have a crisis and a stolen election and a coup to remove the dictator, then you get to have a “provisional government” that can basically do anything it wants to, without having to even pretend to care about the existing bill of rights, existing laws, existing structures, checks/balances, etc. And then at the end of the provisional government comes a new constitution where they formalize everything.
     
    FWIW, with control of the Senate (which Republicans have been trying mightily to cede) a coup would be entirely superfluous.

    https://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/as-the-filibuster-goes-so-goes-the-gop/#comment-4076576

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-future-of-us-politics-poc-vs-zionist/#comment-4083341

  19. In this ad, Biden turns it all around and accuses Trump and the Republicans of that which Biden, BLM and antifa are guilty – based on a technique often attributed to Joseph Goebbels. Accuse your enemy of that which you yourself are guilty of.

    He starts by finally stating that rioting is not protesting, looting is not protesting – it’s lawlessness, plain and simple. Those who do it should be prosecuted.

    Then the deft turn – it’s Donald Trump and his followers who are guilty of rioting and lawlessness!

    Biden says have a president who fans the flames, he can’t stop the violence because for years he’s fomented it. Just watch the clever cuts in this video.

    His failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an armed militia shows how weak he is.

    Biden says if I were president I’d be less divisive, I’d lower the temperature instead of raising it. Biden says Donald Trump adds fuel to every fire.

    Always tell the big lie. Who championed that move? Before Biden, that is.

    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @Anon7


    In this ad, Biden turns it all around and accuses Trump and the Republicans of that which Biden, BLM and antifa are guilty – based on a technique often attributed to Joseph Goebbels . . .
     
    . . . by those who are actually guilty of using the technique.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    , @James O'Meara
    @Anon7

    Sigh.

    Again with the bullshit. JG was describing the Phoenician technique of "Always accuse your opponent of what YOU are doing.'

    Which, of course, in accord with such policy, the Phoenicians ascribe to JG.

    So, are you a dupe, or hasbara?

    , @David
    @Anon7

    The words "be not afraid" spoken by a man wearing a surgical mask don't come off so well.

    , @Pericles
    @Anon7

    Biden cries out as he strikes you.

    , @Redman
    @Anon7

    Joe Biden is definitely telling the big lie in this ad. He foments his supporters (blacks) all the time.

    Joe: “They’ll have you (blacks) in chains.”

    That was some real lowering of the temperature on racial violence.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Anon7

    Boy, lie upon lie upon lie.

    The three biggies:

    1) Biden/Democrats are for prosecuting the rioters and looters. It is precisely because they are not doing that--have ordered police to stand down, have refused to prosecute that we've had this summer of George.

    2) The Trump supporters have something to do with the violence. Nonsense. To the extent there have been "armed militias" that are Trump supporting they have protected people and property.

    and of course their biggest and endless lie ...

    3) That it is conservatives/patriots/Republicans who have raised temperature and generate division.

    No, it has been minoritarians--and yes, heavily Jewish--who for 50+ years have driven division and rancor basically by telling everyone--but particularly egging on blacks--that they are the victim of flyover country pickup driving white gentiles as keeping them down. A giant blood libel against whites, in order to steal their nation and replace it with globohomo-marketplace.

  20. @Buffalo Joe
    Hamid is just reiterating the DNC Platform. Vote for Biden or your city will burn and Covid is not going away. Biden wins and all is good, the lamb lays down with the lion.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @Anonymous, @Dago Shoes

    You have two choices, America:

    1. Elect Biden and your city will burn.
    2. Elect Trump and your city will burn, but Trump will tweet his outrage while not doing anything about it.

    • Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @Anonymous

    Still almost two months remaining. Ample time for an aneurysm.

    Though, granted, Harris vs. Trump is pretty much the choice anyway.

  21. In that case, we’re going to have to treat the Democrats like we did after the 1860 election.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Redneck farmer

    "1860"

    That means I'll never get a haircut.

  22. Shadi Hamid is obviously not an American.

    He has to go back.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Glaivester

    Sending him back wouldn't refute his thesis. It's nice to see someone explicitly spell out what has been an implicit threat.

  23. Why am I reading about strident opinions about the politics of my country from something calling itself ” Shadi Hamid”?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    Why am I reading about strident opinions about the politics of my country from something calling itself ” Shadi Hamid”?
     
    Shadi Hamid = Had his maid. Had hid aims. AIDS had him!
    , @Jim Don Bob
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    Why am I reading about strident opinions about the politics of my country from something calling itself ” Shadi Hamid”?
     
    He is probably an H1-B. They are having trouble finding even wypipo stupid enough to think that writing for the Atlantic is a good career move.

    Replies: @sayless

  24. Shadi Tree, we just adore your act.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Bragadocious

    Diamonds Are Forever (1971). Lana Wood did not get enough screen time in that film, IMO.

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe

  25. In my new @TheAtlantic piece, I argue that even strictly law-and-order Republicans have an interest in Biden winning…If Trump wins, especially after losing the popular vote, the left may draw the wrong conclusions.

    Well…sure…

    OTOH, the most likely outcome is “strictly law-and-order Republicans” [along with most Americans] have an interest in Trump winning.

    Bigly.

    Popular and Electoral vote.

    The Left will still draw the wrong conclusions, but so what?

    They always do.

    • Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @TontoBubbaGoldstein

    GOPe and Trump too:

    "Law and Order" worked in 1968, right? Good enough for 2020 then!

  26. >If Biden loses, mass unrest is more unlikely<

    Trump has my vote then.

  27. Well, now we know where they will stand…

  28. Even if Biden were mediocre, there are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers and Presidents. They are entitled to a little representation, aren’t they, and a little chance? We can’t have all Obamas and FDRs and Woodrow– uh, forget that last one. Actually forget the last 2

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Anonymous

    Since you are anonymous anyway, you should've signed your post Roman Hruska.

    , @James O'Meara
    @Anonymous

    That argument didn't help Nixon get Carswell on the SCOTUS and won't help you.

  29. @Not My Economy
    I'm starting to think they actually don't want Trump to just lose and accept it

    Could it be the color revolution is not the backup plan, its the primary plan?

    If you have a crisis and a stolen election and a coup to remove the dictator, then you get to have a "provisional government" that can basically do anything it wants to, without having to even pretend to care about the existing bill of rights, existing laws, existing structures, checks/balances, etc. And then at the end of the provisional government comes a new constitution where they formalize everything.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    If you have a crisis and a stolen election and a coup to remove the dictator, then you get to have a “provisional government” that can basically do anything it wants to, without having to even pretend to care about the existing bill of rights, existing laws, existing structures, checks/balances, etc. And then at the end of the provisional government comes a new constitution where they formalize everything.

    FWIW, with control of the Senate (which Republicans have been trying mightily to cede) a coup would be entirely superfluous.

    https://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/as-the-filibuster-goes-so-goes-the-gop/#comment-4076576

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-future-of-us-politics-poc-vs-zionist/#comment-4083341

  30. @Anon7
    In this ad, Biden turns it all around and accuses Trump and the Republicans of that which Biden, BLM and antifa are guilty - based on a technique often attributed to Joseph Goebbels. Accuse your enemy of that which you yourself are guilty of.

    He starts by finally stating that rioting is not protesting, looting is not protesting - it's lawlessness, plain and simple. Those who do it should be prosecuted.

    Then the deft turn - it's Donald Trump and his followers who are guilty of rioting and lawlessness!

    Biden says have a president who fans the flames, he can't stop the violence because for years he's fomented it. Just watch the clever cuts in this video.

    His failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an armed militia shows how weak he is.

    Biden says if I were president I'd be less divisive, I'd lower the temperature instead of raising it. Biden says Donald Trump adds fuel to every fire.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgHXJ3rdOn0

    Always tell the big lie. Who championed that move? Before Biden, that is.

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @James O'Meara, @David, @Pericles, @Redman, @AnotherDad

    In this ad, Biden turns it all around and accuses Trump and the Republicans of that which Biden, BLM and antifa are guilty – based on a technique often attributed to Joseph Goebbels . . .

    . . . by those who are actually guilty of using the technique.

    • Agree: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @Ben tillman

    Yep. Everyone pins that one on those who first noticed.

  31. Shadi Hamid is just looking at things through the lens of his cultural roots (a bunch of mixed metaphors here).
    After all, that’s how the good ol’ prophet convinced people to join his cult.

  32. Earlier in the year, there was much performative hand-wringing over mostly white people motivated by causes on the right openly carrying firearms at political events, and much talk about how this represented an implied threat that was “incompatible with democracy.”

    Fast-forward just a few months, we now are reading veiled but clear threats of violence from Democrats if an election doesn’t deliver their preferred outcome.

    It’s worth noting that no Democratic presidential candidate has conceded losing the election on election night since 1988. And the previous Republican President before Trump only took office after a desperate and sordid effort to litigate their way into the White House. Of course, the degree to which Democrats refused to accept the results of 2016 exceeded even that, with the outgoing President’s Justice Department and intelligence agencies manufacturing a phony scandal to hobble the incoming administration. In other words, there has been an escalating trend of Democrats refusing to accept any electoral outcome in which they don’t win that has been increasing election by election throughout this century.

    It’s also perhaps worth noting what the first Republican President did to Democrats who violently refused to accept his election. He shot them and burned their cities down. That was the original “Lincoln Project.”

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Thanks: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @Marty T
    @Thomas

    Let's make it a Trump Project and do a repeat.

  33. @Anonymous
    @Buffalo Joe

    You have two choices, America:

    1. Elect Biden and your city will burn.
    2. Elect Trump and your city will burn, but Trump will tweet his outrage while not doing anything about it.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Still almost two months remaining. Ample time for an aneurysm.

    Though, granted, Harris vs. Trump is pretty much the choice anyway.

  34. @Ben tillman
    @Anon7


    In this ad, Biden turns it all around and accuses Trump and the Republicans of that which Biden, BLM and antifa are guilty – based on a technique often attributed to Joseph Goebbels . . .
     
    . . . by those who are actually guilty of using the technique.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Yep. Everyone pins that one on those who first noticed.

  35. @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    In my new @TheAtlantic piece, I argue that even strictly law-and-order Republicans have an interest in Biden winning...If Trump wins, especially after losing the popular vote, the left may draw the wrong conclusions.

    Well...sure...

    OTOH, the most likely outcome is "strictly law-and-order Republicans" [along with most Americans] have an interest in Trump winning.

    Bigly.

    Popular and Electoral vote.

    The Left will still draw the wrong conclusions, but so what?

    They always do.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    GOPe and Trump too:

    “Law and Order” worked in 1968, right? Good enough for 2020 then!

  36. @Trinity
    Prediction for the upcoming SELECTION

    Trump wins and (((Antifa/BLM goons))) will riot because they will be pissed and they think they are untouchable.

    Biden wins and (((Antifa/BLM goons))) will riot because they will be happy and will really think they are untouchable at that point and time.

    Expect more riots from these (((goons.)))

    Replies: @Ripple Earthdevil, @Elmer T. Jones, @sayless

    For chrissakes the vast majority of Antifa goons are not Jewish.

  37. @Bragadocious
    Shadi Tree, we just adore your act.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    Diamonds Are Forever (1971). Lana Wood did not get enough screen time in that film, IMO.

    • Agree: Spud Boy
    • Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
    @SunBakedSuburb

    (Lana Wood - busting out of her dress):“I’m Plenty!”

    (James Bond - after surveying her landscape for a moment)
    “Of course you are . . . “

    https://youtu.be/8nchMIFSnGo

  38. @Redneck farmer
    In that case, we're going to have to treat the Democrats like we did after the 1860 election.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “1860”

    That means I’ll never get a haircut.

  39. clearly the violence and protests will ramp up even higher if Trump is re-elected. And Trump has shown he has no answer to how to lessen the unrest.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Steve Richter

    Trump has shown he has no answer to how to lessen the unrest.

    Trump does have an answer: he offers federal LEO and troops to any city that will accept them. It's to up to him to force assistance upon Democratic-run cities that don't wan it. If they prefer to let their cities burn, that's their choice.

  40. President Trump will win re-election.

    Any violent nonsense by the left will be put down. President Trump and patriotic Americans have had enough of it.

    Don’t be fooled or intimidated by the same group of a few hundred people in a respective city, or even a few thousand in larger cities, carrying on over and over.

    There is a massive awakening going on, the real “woke.” Tsunamis start quiet and deep, until they emerge.

    • Agree: sayless
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Neo Morpheus

    This comment is brought to you by the Republican National Committee.

  41. Purely on the level of description, he’s correct. The Dems will take a loss much worse than the other side will. One can draw one’s own prescriptive conclusions from that fact.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Hereward the Woke

    The Democrats broke the social contract in 2015, when the Obama administration began spying on and plotting against Trump. Then, with the so-called "Resistance," they showed that they would not accept the results of the election. This has been their MO for some time.

    Here are two observations by the late Lawrence Auster that were quite prescient:


    (November 19, 2011) The two parties are not playing the same game. They play different games, under different rules. What are these different rules? The Republicans more or less follow the laws and constitutional procedures, the Democrats deliberately and consciously break them. But the Republicans, while they complain incessantly about the Democrats, never identify this underlying fact. Why? Because that would show that the system is no longer legitimate. And the function of the Republicans, as “patriotic, conservative Americans,” is to uphold the goodness and legitimacy of the system, a legitimacy which rests on the belief that everyone in American politics shares the same basic principles and loyalties. So the Republicans, as defenders of the system and its presumed basic unity, cannot expose what the Democrats are. If they exposed it, politics would be replaced by open war between two radically incompatible parties and America as we know it would come to an end.

    (November 06, 2012) The Democratic Party continues to demonstrate its criminal and dictatorial nature. Former DNC chairman Howard Dean declared on television that if Obama loses Ohio, it must be because Republicans prevented Democrats from voting or because voting machines did not work. In short, Democrats are entitled to win, entitled to rule the country. Any other result must be because of fraud or voter suppression or racism, and thus is illegitimate. The only legitimate outcome is Democratic victory. This has been for a long time the Democrats’ view of American politics, but the nice, brain-dead Republicans never identify it or make the Democrats accountable for it.
     
    I believe Trump's election has exposed the Democrats' agenda and, as Auster predicted, politics has been replaced by open war between two radically incompatible parties and America as we knew it has indeed come to an end.
  42. @Daniel H
    If Trump wins, especially after losing the popular vote, the left may draw the wrong conclusions.

    My greatest wish is for Trump to lose the popular vote by 5 million or so and squeak it out in the electoral college. I can dream.

    Replies: @Marty T

    Or 269-269 and the House decides state by state.

    Anyway the riots may get worse if Trump wins. Ok, then it will be time for Trump to order the military to shoot the scum on sight. That will put a stop to it real quick. But I don’t see enough on our side saying what needs to be said.

    • Agree: Redman
    • Replies: @Prester John
    @Marty T

    That would generate hundreds of indignant letters to The Times.

    , @res
    @Marty T

    Can you imagine the pressure brought to bear on the individual electors if the outcome is close to 269-269?

  43. @Thomas
    Earlier in the year, there was much performative hand-wringing over mostly white people motivated by causes on the right openly carrying firearms at political events, and much talk about how this represented an implied threat that was "incompatible with democracy."

    Fast-forward just a few months, we now are reading veiled but clear threats of violence from Democrats if an election doesn't deliver their preferred outcome.

    It's worth noting that no Democratic presidential candidate has conceded losing the election on election night since 1988. And the previous Republican President before Trump only took office after a desperate and sordid effort to litigate their way into the White House. Of course, the degree to which Democrats refused to accept the results of 2016 exceeded even that, with the outgoing President's Justice Department and intelligence agencies manufacturing a phony scandal to hobble the incoming administration. In other words, there has been an escalating trend of Democrats refusing to accept any electoral outcome in which they don't win that has been increasing election by election throughout this century.

    It's also perhaps worth noting what the first Republican President did to Democrats who violently refused to accept his election. He shot them and burned their cities down. That was the original "Lincoln Project."

    Replies: @Marty T

    Let’s make it a Trump Project and do a repeat.

  44. @Almost Missouri
    Remember, if Trump wins, Democrats may not be able to concede.

    But if Democrats win, that scoundrel Trump will refuse to concede!

    Replies: @Kronos

    The current Democratic Party leadership increasingly looks like the French Directorate from before Napoleon took over France. (Or, the early years of the Iranian Islamic Republic for that matter.)

    The French Directorate could only maintain cohesion and any semblance of political control via continuous wars and foreign threats. Otherwise the internal division would cause the whole system to collapse.

  45. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Why am I reading about strident opinions about the politics of my country from something calling itself " Shadi Hamid"?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Jim Don Bob

    Why am I reading about strident opinions about the politics of my country from something calling itself ” Shadi Hamid”?

    Shadi Hamid = Had his maid. Had hid aims. AIDS had him!

  46. @Whiskey
    @Buffalo Joe

    Except Harris can't call off a blacks vs cops war. It's on already. Doesn't matter who wins. Either most/all blacks are deport ed to Africa or cops are abolished and it's rule by Divine Right of Kangz.

    Hard to see any compromise or truce. Corporate America is all Kangz though so the Kangz have money and power advantage.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Neoconned, @Libre

    I’m afraid so, politicians were only able to control the 1960s cop vs. black via massive domestic spending.

    The borrowing power of the Baby Boom generation was invested in avoiding the choices that the confrontations of the 1960s had placed before the country. What the debt paid for was social peace, which had come to be understood as synonymous with the various Great Society programs launched by Lyndon Johnson in the two years after the Kennedy assassination. We should understand the Great Society as the institutional form into which the civil rights impulse hardened, a transfer from whites to blacks of the resources necessary to make desegregation viable. Desegregation was, as we have said, the most massive undertaking of any kind in the history of the United States. Like any massive undertaking, it required endurance, patience, and prohibitive expense. Almost everyone who did not benefit from it was going to be made poorer by it. Now it was being presented to the public as the merest down payment on what Americans owed.

    Of course, it didn’t work and now there’s no money/resources left to keep the monster sedated.

    • Thanks: Mr McKenna, Neoconned
    • Replies: @Thomas
    @Kronos


    Of course, it didn’t work and now there’s no money/resources left to keep the monster sedated.
     
    Or, in demographic terms, too few eternally guilty whites to hold liable via corruption of blood and too many post-1965 Paperwork Americans who have no reason to personally assume that liability.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @Neoconned
    @Kronos

    Interesting but different historical take....

    , @Hamlet's Ghost
    @Kronos

    "once you have paid him the Danegeld/ You never get rid of the Dane."
    -Rudyard Kipling

    Nowadays you might call it the "Negrogeld", but the lesson is the same.

  47. @Anonymous
    Even if Biden were mediocre, there are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers and Presidents. They are entitled to a little representation, aren't they, and a little chance? We can't have all Obamas and FDRs and Woodrow-- uh, forget that last one. Actually forget the last 2

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @James O'Meara

    Since you are anonymous anyway, you should’ve signed your post Roman Hruska.

  48. Shadi Hamid
    Contributing writer at The Atlantic and Brookings Institution senior fellow

    I’m in the middle of a book published in 1970 by the Brookings Institution. (About, of all things, the Electoral College. It’s mildly in favor.)

    Up front it lists the trustees of the Institution. Here are their surnames:

    Dillon; Stein (Jr.); Biggs; Anderson; Barnett; Cabot; Calkins; Carter; Fischer; Gordon; Gray; Harris; Holbrook; Lockwood; Martin; McNamara (yes, him) ; Miller; Patterson; Peterson; Redmond; Rose; Smith; Wilkinson; Woodward; Adams; Bell; Black; Carmichael; Darden; Folsom; Fosdick; Gilchrist; Pratt.

    The most “ethnic” names are Fischer and McNamara!

    Yes, I’m aware that many Adamses, Gordons, Millers, and Roses are Jewish. But Arthur Stanton, Kermit, Arjay, and H. Chapman? Not likely:

    Arjay Miller, Former Dean of Stanford Graduate School of Business, Dies at 101

    There is a touch of inbreeding in this group, it would appear: Douglas Dillon (Chairman) and Dillon Anderson; J. Woodward Redmond and Donald B. Woodward; Huntington Harris and Huntington Gilchrist.

    Daniel W. Bell’s middle name was “Wafena”. That barely cracks the top 3,000,000 surnames in the world. Where the heck does that come from? He was born in Kinderhook, Illinois, population 370 (1900); 208 (2019 est.)

    Vice Chairman Sydney Stein, Jr appears to have Jewish roots– his grandfather was Solomon– but his parents were born here, and the “Jr” is quite un-Ashkenazic.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Reg Cæsar

    Sociologist Daniel Bell was Jewish (though, I don't know if he was this guy).

    Other than that- we didn't have an amusing Jew bashing for some time. So, it feels like....you know.... I mean....like ....boring. Now I know how the Grand Inquisitor felt when everybody was pious & heretics were playing their little naughty games somewhere in the Northern mists, in Wolfbumsengebiete.

    So, let's have some fun. Yaaay...

    https://twitter.com/MEMRIReports/status/1274654398086594560

  49. Shadi Hamid can’t even proofread his own tweets: “If Biden loses, mass unrest is more unlikely . . . ” which means in plain English that if Trump wins, everything will be fine for law and order. (I read it over several times just to make sure I was understanding it right.) This isn’t what he’s trying to say at all of course. He’s saying the opposite: that if Biden loses, mass unrest is more likely. This idiot can’t even communicate his idea through a basic tweet. What an incoherent twit.

    • Agree: Voltarde
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @duncsbaby

    Finally duncsbaby - I've read the comments to check if I was the only one to find this tweet a bit - tweaked. I thought that this tweet was a pleasure for Dr. Freud to dissect. I mean - it looks as if Shadi Hamid would not trust in his own - thoughts; and that would be no surprise to me, given how - outright dumb they are. I don't even know where to start. I mean - "this Joe Biden guy" (Joe Rogan) he adores. Ok, I see this happening from outside, but over 50% of the Americans seem to think too that he is not perfectly well, mentally. - - - Strange. (And that's only the start...).

  50. @Anon7
    In this ad, Biden turns it all around and accuses Trump and the Republicans of that which Biden, BLM and antifa are guilty - based on a technique often attributed to Joseph Goebbels. Accuse your enemy of that which you yourself are guilty of.

    He starts by finally stating that rioting is not protesting, looting is not protesting - it's lawlessness, plain and simple. Those who do it should be prosecuted.

    Then the deft turn - it's Donald Trump and his followers who are guilty of rioting and lawlessness!

    Biden says have a president who fans the flames, he can't stop the violence because for years he's fomented it. Just watch the clever cuts in this video.

    His failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an armed militia shows how weak he is.

    Biden says if I were president I'd be less divisive, I'd lower the temperature instead of raising it. Biden says Donald Trump adds fuel to every fire.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgHXJ3rdOn0

    Always tell the big lie. Who championed that move? Before Biden, that is.

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @James O'Meara, @David, @Pericles, @Redman, @AnotherDad

    Sigh.

    Again with the bullshit. JG was describing the Phoenician technique of “Always accuse your opponent of what YOU are doing.’

    Which, of course, in accord with such policy, the Phoenicians ascribe to JG.

    So, are you a dupe, or hasbara?

    • Thanks: Buck Ransom
  51. He forgot to add “If you know what’s good for you.”

    Nice country. Be a shame if anything happened to it.

  52. @Anonymous
    Even if Biden were mediocre, there are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers and Presidents. They are entitled to a little representation, aren't they, and a little chance? We can't have all Obamas and FDRs and Woodrow-- uh, forget that last one. Actually forget the last 2

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @James O'Meara

    That argument didn’t help Nixon get Carswell on the SCOTUS and won’t help you.

  53. @duncsbaby
    Shadi Hamid can't even proofread his own tweets: "If Biden loses, mass unrest is more unlikely . . . " which means in plain English that if Trump wins, everything will be fine for law and order. (I read it over several times just to make sure I was understanding it right.) This isn't what he's trying to say at all of course. He's saying the opposite: that if Biden loses, mass unrest is more likely. This idiot can't even communicate his idea through a basic tweet. What an incoherent twit.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    Finally duncsbaby – I’ve read the comments to check if I was the only one to find this tweet a bit – tweaked. I thought that this tweet was a pleasure for Dr. Freud to dissect. I mean – it looks as if Shadi Hamid would not trust in his own – thoughts; and that would be no surprise to me, given how – outright dumb they are. I don’t even know where to start. I mean – “this Joe Biden guy” (Joe Rogan) he adores. Ok, I see this happening from outside, but over 50% of the Americans seem to think too that he is not perfectly well, mentally. – – – Strange. (And that’s only the start…).

  54. Apposite

    from: “Berlin City of Smoke” (Jason Lutes, Part 8, Page 8)

    • Replies: @res
    @El Dato

    Thanks. Looks worth reading in full. Any further thoughts on that graphic novel?

  55. Reminder that QAnon is real

    Tulsi Gabbard branded QAnon conspiracy theorist for speaking out against Netflix’s ‘Cuties’ as ‘child porn’

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @El Dato

    Democrats are openly defending the production of pedophilic content while also openly promising to not accept the election results of bad orange man wins. What a time to be alive.

    , @Patrick in SC
    @El Dato

    How is it a "fake" controversy? Is it "fake" that a great many people find this disturbing? Whether you are for or against this program, the controversy seems pretty real to me.

    I can't vouch for the veracity of the "1 in 4 statistic," but how is sex trafficking of underage or very young girls "fake" news? Is she claiming it does't happen?

  56. @Kronos
    @Whiskey

    I’m afraid so, politicians were only able to control the 1960s cop vs. black via massive domestic spending.

    https://www.amazon.com/Age-Entitlement-America-Since-Sixties/dp/1501106899


    The borrowing power of the Baby Boom generation was invested in avoiding the choices that the confrontations of the 1960s had placed before the country. What the debt paid for was social peace, which had come to be understood as synonymous with the various Great Society programs launched by Lyndon Johnson in the two years after the Kennedy assassination. We should understand the Great Society as the institutional form into which the civil rights impulse hardened, a transfer from whites to blacks of the resources necessary to make desegregation viable. Desegregation was, as we have said, the most massive undertaking of any kind in the history of the United States. Like any massive undertaking, it required endurance, patience, and prohibitive expense. Almost everyone who did not benefit from it was going to be made poorer by it. Now it was being presented to the public as the merest down payment on what Americans owed.
     
    Of course, it didn’t work and now there’s no money/resources left to keep the monster sedated.

    Replies: @Thomas, @Neoconned, @Hamlet's Ghost

    Of course, it didn’t work and now there’s no money/resources left to keep the monster sedated.

    Or, in demographic terms, too few eternally guilty whites to hold liable via corruption of blood and too many post-1965 Paperwork Americans who have no reason to personally assume that liability.

    • LOL: Neoconned
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Thomas

    Oh but they will.

    Did you miss the video of the Indian owner of a car dealership in Kenosha who had much of his property destroyed? He said "I'm not even white." Well, I know from experience that blacks often don't or can't distinguish between "whites" and our high caste Indian cousins. And regardless, "not being white" ain't gonna save you from angry mobs freshly gaslit by the media.

    I mean, these people could go back to China or India instead of having to pay for America's sins, real and imagined, but many won't.

    Replies: @Thomas, @Reg Cæsar

  57. Welcome to the Third World.

  58. @Anon7
    In this ad, Biden turns it all around and accuses Trump and the Republicans of that which Biden, BLM and antifa are guilty - based on a technique often attributed to Joseph Goebbels. Accuse your enemy of that which you yourself are guilty of.

    He starts by finally stating that rioting is not protesting, looting is not protesting - it's lawlessness, plain and simple. Those who do it should be prosecuted.

    Then the deft turn - it's Donald Trump and his followers who are guilty of rioting and lawlessness!

    Biden says have a president who fans the flames, he can't stop the violence because for years he's fomented it. Just watch the clever cuts in this video.

    His failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an armed militia shows how weak he is.

    Biden says if I were president I'd be less divisive, I'd lower the temperature instead of raising it. Biden says Donald Trump adds fuel to every fire.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgHXJ3rdOn0

    Always tell the big lie. Who championed that move? Before Biden, that is.

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @James O'Meara, @David, @Pericles, @Redman, @AnotherDad

    The words “be not afraid” spoken by a man wearing a surgical mask don’t come off so well.

    • LOL: Redman
  59. Since Biden loves to borrow quotes and anecdotes, perhaps he should bring back “peace for our time” to really drive home the point.

  60. @Anon7
    In this ad, Biden turns it all around and accuses Trump and the Republicans of that which Biden, BLM and antifa are guilty - based on a technique often attributed to Joseph Goebbels. Accuse your enemy of that which you yourself are guilty of.

    He starts by finally stating that rioting is not protesting, looting is not protesting - it's lawlessness, plain and simple. Those who do it should be prosecuted.

    Then the deft turn - it's Donald Trump and his followers who are guilty of rioting and lawlessness!

    Biden says have a president who fans the flames, he can't stop the violence because for years he's fomented it. Just watch the clever cuts in this video.

    His failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an armed militia shows how weak he is.

    Biden says if I were president I'd be less divisive, I'd lower the temperature instead of raising it. Biden says Donald Trump adds fuel to every fire.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgHXJ3rdOn0

    Always tell the big lie. Who championed that move? Before Biden, that is.

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @James O'Meara, @David, @Pericles, @Redman, @AnotherDad

    Biden cries out as he strikes you.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
  61. @Kronos
    @Whiskey

    I’m afraid so, politicians were only able to control the 1960s cop vs. black via massive domestic spending.

    https://www.amazon.com/Age-Entitlement-America-Since-Sixties/dp/1501106899


    The borrowing power of the Baby Boom generation was invested in avoiding the choices that the confrontations of the 1960s had placed before the country. What the debt paid for was social peace, which had come to be understood as synonymous with the various Great Society programs launched by Lyndon Johnson in the two years after the Kennedy assassination. We should understand the Great Society as the institutional form into which the civil rights impulse hardened, a transfer from whites to blacks of the resources necessary to make desegregation viable. Desegregation was, as we have said, the most massive undertaking of any kind in the history of the United States. Like any massive undertaking, it required endurance, patience, and prohibitive expense. Almost everyone who did not benefit from it was going to be made poorer by it. Now it was being presented to the public as the merest down payment on what Americans owed.
     
    Of course, it didn’t work and now there’s no money/resources left to keep the monster sedated.

    Replies: @Thomas, @Neoconned, @Hamlet's Ghost

    Interesting but different historical take….

  62. @Whiskey
    @Buffalo Joe

    Except Harris can't call off a blacks vs cops war. It's on already. Doesn't matter who wins. Either most/all blacks are deport ed to Africa or cops are abolished and it's rule by Divine Right of Kangz.

    Hard to see any compromise or truce. Corporate America is all Kangz though so the Kangz have money and power advantage.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Neoconned, @Libre

    WE WUZ KANGZ!!!

  63. @Whiskey
    Steve, comments on the shooting of two LA Sheriffs deputies and BLM trying to finish them off at the hospital? The NPR reporter interfering with the arrests of blm people blocking and trying to enter the ER?

    Blm seems all in on killing cops. There was that hot redhead who lives in a mansion trying to seize luxury Manhattan apts.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Neoconned, @Libre

    Anybody got a link to the story about trying to seize Manhattan apts?

    • Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @Neoconned

    It's possible that he means this chick, but who knows

    https://thepostmillennial.com/privilege-wealthy-manhattan-woman-arrested-police-rioting-causing-100k-damage

  64. Joe Biden, the squeegee-man candidate of the Mugger Money Party.

    • LOL: GeneralRipper
  65. @Anonymous
    Goodfella's 2020:

    "That’s a nice mom and pop business ya got there. What? Ya spent 20 years building it from scratch? Ya don’t say! Sure would be a damned shame if ya voted for Trunmp, if ya know what I mean..."

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Either The Nation or Jacobin put out an article saying small business owners aren’t much better than the Waltons.

    • Replies: @res
    @AndrewR


    Either The Nation or Jacobin put out an article saying small business owners aren’t much better than the Waltons.
     
    This?
    Small Business Owners at the Barricades
    https://jacobinmag.com/2020/04/anti-shutdown-protests-coronavirus-covid-trump

    The intro:

    Small business owners, who feature prominently in the anti-shutdown protests, occupy a unique place in capitalism’s class hierarchy — although many share the same kinds of struggles experienced by wage workers, as a class, they’re often drawn to the far right.
     

    Replies: @AndrewR

  66. @Thomas
    @Kronos


    Of course, it didn’t work and now there’s no money/resources left to keep the monster sedated.
     
    Or, in demographic terms, too few eternally guilty whites to hold liable via corruption of blood and too many post-1965 Paperwork Americans who have no reason to personally assume that liability.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Oh but they will.

    Did you miss the video of the Indian owner of a car dealership in Kenosha who had much of his property destroyed? He said “I’m not even white.” Well, I know from experience that blacks often don’t or can’t distinguish between “whites” and our high caste Indian cousins. And regardless, “not being white” ain’t gonna save you from angry mobs freshly gaslit by the media.

    I mean, these people could go back to China or India instead of having to pay for America’s sins, real and imagined, but many won’t.

    • Replies: @Thomas
    @AndrewR

    It's a lot easier to steal from people when they're too cucked and brainwashed to stand up for themselves. The high-low conspiracy against whitey has always been "I'll hold him down, and you rob him!" Selling white guilt to non-whites is definitely an uphill push. Actually, what we've been seeing more than that is elite Paperwork Americans getting in on getting whitey. Finding a reason to hate whites, like e.g., India's colonial history and cultural chauvinism, helps the process along considerably (as has been covered here and there on this blog). That seems to be one reason that high-caste Indians seem to be in the process of being groomed for a distinct role as part of the new ruling elite of the USA.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @AndrewR


    And regardless, “not being white” ain’t gonna save you from angry mobs freshly gaslit by the media.
     
    Gas Light Service ain't what it used to be.



    https://forums.x-plane.org/screenshots/monthly_2018_03/Image2.jpg.952ebb094f724e5ecdc3e897e9ca34d4.jpg


    http://cellar.org/2017/mohawk2.jpg
  67. @Trinity
    Prediction for the upcoming SELECTION

    Trump wins and (((Antifa/BLM goons))) will riot because they will be pissed and they think they are untouchable.

    Biden wins and (((Antifa/BLM goons))) will riot because they will be happy and will really think they are untouchable at that point and time.

    Expect more riots from these (((goons.)))

    Replies: @Ripple Earthdevil, @Elmer T. Jones, @sayless

    Wrong. Trump wins, Democrats will dress up like women’s anatomy and hold a parade. Trump loses, Democrats will dress up like women’s anatomy and hold a parade.

  68. Shadi Hamid is a good writer – a heterodox Bernie guy who is sympathetic to social conservatism and right-wing populism.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @IHTG

    He can be as good a writer as he likes... back home in whatever country it is where they produce creatures named Shadi Hamid.

  69. OT: Stephen Green at Instapundit just picked up on the iSteve chestnut about searching for American inventors on Google.

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/400327/

  70. It really is amazing what leftists are trying to extort and ransom, and i think it’s going to backfire massively on them

  71. @Whiskey
    Steve, comments on the shooting of two LA Sheriffs deputies and BLM trying to finish them off at the hospital? The NPR reporter interfering with the arrests of blm people blocking and trying to enter the ER?

    Blm seems all in on killing cops. There was that hot redhead who lives in a mansion trying to seize luxury Manhattan apts.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Neoconned, @Libre

    Two fewer cops to arrest the next Kyle.

  72. @Whiskey
    @Buffalo Joe

    Except Harris can't call off a blacks vs cops war. It's on already. Doesn't matter who wins. Either most/all blacks are deport ed to Africa or cops are abolished and it's rule by Divine Right of Kangz.

    Hard to see any compromise or truce. Corporate America is all Kangz though so the Kangz have money and power advantage.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Neoconned, @Libre

    The best result for whites is they neutralize each other. I don’t understand why this is so difficult for the right.

  73. @Joe Magarac
    If they win by terrorism, they will rule by terrorism. Nobody ever got mellower by getting power.

    That said, I wonder if this argument will actually win any votes?

    Replies: @Redman, @David

    It seems like an argument aimed at women. Every male knows that if you give into the bully, you’re done. You learn it as a kid in the playground.

    It’s also like saying all LEOs (and the military) should just give up on the idea of protecting and defending. Otherwise you might enrage the bad guys and cause them to do more harm.

    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @Redman

    It’s also like the (always unsolicited) advice we get to ignore the Jewish role in creating the current situation.

  74. @Mike_from_SGV
    I fully expect the riots and murders of policemen to get worse, at least initially, if Trump wins. So the guy is probably correct on that aspect. That is not a reason to vote Biden though. At some point, this country needs to do a serious crackdown on the insurrectionist activities and propaganda (something more than tweets).

    Replies: @Redman

    That’s the counter argument to this theory.

    A vote for Trump means a severe (post-election) crackdown which many (most?) people have been praying for for some time.

  75. @El Dato
    Reminder that QAnon is real

    Tulsi Gabbard branded QAnon conspiracy theorist for speaking out against Netflix's 'Cuties' as 'child porn'

    https://twitter.com/ENBrown/status/1304726353703567360

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Patrick in SC

    Democrats are openly defending the production of pedophilic content while also openly promising to not accept the election results of bad orange man wins. What a time to be alive.

  76. @Anon7
    In this ad, Biden turns it all around and accuses Trump and the Republicans of that which Biden, BLM and antifa are guilty - based on a technique often attributed to Joseph Goebbels. Accuse your enemy of that which you yourself are guilty of.

    He starts by finally stating that rioting is not protesting, looting is not protesting - it's lawlessness, plain and simple. Those who do it should be prosecuted.

    Then the deft turn - it's Donald Trump and his followers who are guilty of rioting and lawlessness!

    Biden says have a president who fans the flames, he can't stop the violence because for years he's fomented it. Just watch the clever cuts in this video.

    His failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an armed militia shows how weak he is.

    Biden says if I were president I'd be less divisive, I'd lower the temperature instead of raising it. Biden says Donald Trump adds fuel to every fire.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgHXJ3rdOn0

    Always tell the big lie. Who championed that move? Before Biden, that is.

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @James O'Meara, @David, @Pericles, @Redman, @AnotherDad

    Joe Biden is definitely telling the big lie in this ad. He foments his supporters (blacks) all the time.

    Joe: “They’ll have you (blacks) in chains.”

    That was some real lowering of the temperature on racial violence.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  77. “…faith in democracy”

    “Democracy!” Defined as—what? And by whose criteria? By the way, what IS the criteria?

    What an empty phrase!

    • Replies: @Patrick in SC
    @Prester John


    “Democracy!” Defined as—what? And by whose criteria? By the way, what IS the criteria?
     
    As near as I can tell, if the election result makes one particular side really sad or very angry, they won't accept it as legitimate. And if they believe it is illegitimate, it is therefore illegitimate and an affront to democracy. Even though we just voted. So perhaps we best not vote at all? Because that will truly secure "democracy."

    Does my head in.
  78. @Marty T
    @Daniel H

    Or 269-269 and the House decides state by state.

    Anyway the riots may get worse if Trump wins. Ok, then it will be time for Trump to order the military to shoot the scum on sight. That will put a stop to it real quick. But I don't see enough on our side saying what needs to be said.

    Replies: @Prester John, @res

    That would generate hundreds of indignant letters to The Times.

  79. @Buffalo Joe
    Hamid is just reiterating the DNC Platform. Vote for Biden or your city will burn and Covid is not going away. Biden wins and all is good, the lamb lays down with the lion.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @Anonymous, @Dago Shoes

    Don’t forget the bernie bros … the communist ‘organizers’ of bernie’s campaign who said months ago that — no matter the outcome in the election — there would be massive bloodshed across the United States.

    Time to mobilize … our Nation is under attack.

    In these times, I recall the words of Nikita Khrushchev — ‘We Will Bury You … without ever firing a shot.’

  80. Civil unrest would result in thousands of Antifa/BLM punks having to fight millions of Kyle Rittenhouses. Please don’t throw us in the briar patch! Anything but that!.

    God, these people are clueless. This is just like when they all were laughing at us yokels for we nominating Trump because he could never beat Wonder Woman. After all, all the polls had her trouncing him!

  81. @Marty T
    @Daniel H

    Or 269-269 and the House decides state by state.

    Anyway the riots may get worse if Trump wins. Ok, then it will be time for Trump to order the military to shoot the scum on sight. That will put a stop to it real quick. But I don't see enough on our side saying what needs to be said.

    Replies: @Prester John, @res

    Can you imagine the pressure brought to bear on the individual electors if the outcome is close to 269-269?

  82. @El Dato
    Apposite

    https://i.postimg.cc/rFQhqxxq/Berlin-City-of-Smoke-Jason-Lutes-Part-8-Page-8.png

    from: "Berlin City of Smoke" (Jason Lutes, Part 8, Page 8)

    Replies: @res

    Thanks. Looks worth reading in full. Any further thoughts on that graphic novel?

  83. @AndrewR
    @Anonymous

    Either The Nation or Jacobin put out an article saying small business owners aren't much better than the Waltons.

    Replies: @res

    Either The Nation or Jacobin put out an article saying small business owners aren’t much better than the Waltons.

    This?
    Small Business Owners at the Barricades
    https://jacobinmag.com/2020/04/anti-shutdown-protests-coronavirus-covid-trump

    The intro:

    Small business owners, who feature prominently in the anti-shutdown protests, occupy a unique place in capitalism’s class hierarchy — although many share the same kinds of struggles experienced by wage workers, as a class, they’re often drawn to the far right.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @res

    https://mobile.twitter.com/jacobinmag/status/953322391081574401

    Replies: @res

  84. @res
    @AndrewR


    Either The Nation or Jacobin put out an article saying small business owners aren’t much better than the Waltons.
     
    This?
    Small Business Owners at the Barricades
    https://jacobinmag.com/2020/04/anti-shutdown-protests-coronavirus-covid-trump

    The intro:

    Small business owners, who feature prominently in the anti-shutdown protests, occupy a unique place in capitalism’s class hierarchy — although many share the same kinds of struggles experienced by wage workers, as a class, they’re often drawn to the far right.
     

    Replies: @AndrewR

    • Replies: @res
    @AndrewR

    Thanks. Looks like a continuing theme with them. Here is a direct link to that 2018 article.
    https://jacobinmag.com/2018/01/small-businesses-workers-wages

    This web search makes clear how much they talk about this.
    "small business" site:jacobinmag.com

  85. @AndrewR
    @res

    https://mobile.twitter.com/jacobinmag/status/953322391081574401

    Replies: @res

    Thanks. Looks like a continuing theme with them. Here is a direct link to that 2018 article.
    https://jacobinmag.com/2018/01/small-businesses-workers-wages

    This web search makes clear how much they talk about this.
    “small business” site:jacobinmag.com

  86. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Why am I reading about strident opinions about the politics of my country from something calling itself " Shadi Hamid"?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Jim Don Bob

    Why am I reading about strident opinions about the politics of my country from something calling itself ” Shadi Hamid”?

    He is probably an H1-B. They are having trouble finding even wypipo stupid enough to think that writing for the Atlantic is a good career move.

    • Replies: @sayless
    @Jim Don Bob

    The Atlantic sullied its brand by promoting Tennessee so heavily. I wonder if Jeffrey Goldberg has any sense of self-respect left.

  87. @Redman
    @Joe Magarac

    It seems like an argument aimed at women. Every male knows that if you give into the bully, you’re done. You learn it as a kid in the playground.

    It’s also like saying all LEOs (and the military) should just give up on the idea of protecting and defending. Otherwise you might enrage the bad guys and cause them to do more harm.

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    It’s also like the (always unsolicited) advice we get to ignore the Jewish role in creating the current situation.

  88. @SunBakedSuburb
    @Bragadocious

    Diamonds Are Forever (1971). Lana Wood did not get enough screen time in that film, IMO.

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe

    (Lana Wood – busting out of her dress):“I’m Plenty!”

    (James Bond – after surveying her landscape for a moment)
    “Of course you are . . . “

  89. @El Dato
    Reminder that QAnon is real

    Tulsi Gabbard branded QAnon conspiracy theorist for speaking out against Netflix's 'Cuties' as 'child porn'

    https://twitter.com/ENBrown/status/1304726353703567360

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Patrick in SC

    How is it a “fake” controversy? Is it “fake” that a great many people find this disturbing? Whether you are for or against this program, the controversy seems pretty real to me.

    I can’t vouch for the veracity of the “1 in 4 statistic,” but how is sex trafficking of underage or very young girls “fake” news? Is she claiming it does’t happen?

  90. @Reg Cæsar

    Shadi Hamid
    Contributing writer at The Atlantic and Brookings Institution senior fellow
     
    I'm in the middle of a book published in 1970 by the Brookings Institution. (About, of all things, the Electoral College. It's mildly in favor.)

    Up front it lists the trustees of the Institution. Here are their surnames:

    Dillon; Stein (Jr.); Biggs; Anderson; Barnett; Cabot; Calkins; Carter; Fischer; Gordon; Gray; Harris; Holbrook; Lockwood; Martin; McNamara (yes, him) ; Miller; Patterson; Peterson; Redmond; Rose; Smith; Wilkinson; Woodward; Adams; Bell; Black; Carmichael; Darden; Folsom; Fosdick; Gilchrist; Pratt.

    The most "ethnic" names are Fischer and McNamara!

    Yes, I'm aware that many Adamses, Gordons, Millers, and Roses are Jewish. But Arthur Stanton, Kermit, Arjay, and H. Chapman? Not likely:

    Arjay Miller, Former Dean of Stanford Graduate School of Business, Dies at 101

    There is a touch of inbreeding in this group, it would appear: Douglas Dillon (Chairman) and Dillon Anderson; J. Woodward Redmond and Donald B. Woodward; Huntington Harris and Huntington Gilchrist.

    Daniel W. Bell's middle name was "Wafena". That barely cracks the top 3,000,000 surnames in the world. Where the heck does that come from? He was born in Kinderhook, Illinois, population 370 (1900); 208 (2019 est.)

    Vice Chairman Sydney Stein, Jr appears to have Jewish roots-- his grandfather was Solomon-- but his parents were born here, and the "Jr" is quite un-Ashkenazic.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Sociologist Daniel Bell was Jewish (though, I don’t know if he was this guy).

    Other than that- we didn’t have an amusing Jew bashing for some time. So, it feels like….you know…. I mean….like ….boring. Now I know how the Grand Inquisitor felt when everybody was pious & heretics were playing their little naughty games somewhere in the Northern mists, in Wolfbumsengebiete.

    So, let’s have some fun. Yaaay…

  91. @Prester John
    "...faith in democracy"

    "Democracy!" Defined as---what? And by whose criteria? By the way, what IS the criteria?

    What an empty phrase!

    Replies: @Patrick in SC

    “Democracy!” Defined as—what? And by whose criteria? By the way, what IS the criteria?

    As near as I can tell, if the election result makes one particular side really sad or very angry, they won’t accept it as legitimate. And if they believe it is illegitimate, it is therefore illegitimate and an affront to democracy. Even though we just voted. So perhaps we best not vote at all? Because that will truly secure “democracy.”

    Does my head in.

  92. @Anon7
    In this ad, Biden turns it all around and accuses Trump and the Republicans of that which Biden, BLM and antifa are guilty - based on a technique often attributed to Joseph Goebbels. Accuse your enemy of that which you yourself are guilty of.

    He starts by finally stating that rioting is not protesting, looting is not protesting - it's lawlessness, plain and simple. Those who do it should be prosecuted.

    Then the deft turn - it's Donald Trump and his followers who are guilty of rioting and lawlessness!

    Biden says have a president who fans the flames, he can't stop the violence because for years he's fomented it. Just watch the clever cuts in this video.

    His failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an armed militia shows how weak he is.

    Biden says if I were president I'd be less divisive, I'd lower the temperature instead of raising it. Biden says Donald Trump adds fuel to every fire.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgHXJ3rdOn0

    Always tell the big lie. Who championed that move? Before Biden, that is.

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @James O'Meara, @David, @Pericles, @Redman, @AnotherDad

    Boy, lie upon lie upon lie.

    The three biggies:

    1) Biden/Democrats are for prosecuting the rioters and looters. It is precisely because they are not doing that–have ordered police to stand down, have refused to prosecute that we’ve had this summer of George.

    2) The Trump supporters have something to do with the violence. Nonsense. To the extent there have been “armed militias” that are Trump supporting they have protected people and property.

    and of course their biggest and endless lie …

    3) That it is conservatives/patriots/Republicans who have raised temperature and generate division.

    No, it has been minoritarians–and yes, heavily Jewish–who for 50+ years have driven division and rancor basically by telling everyone–but particularly egging on blacks–that they are the victim of flyover country pickup driving white gentiles as keeping them down. A giant blood libel against whites, in order to steal their nation and replace it with globohomo-marketplace.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  93. @IHTG
    Shadi Hamid is a good writer - a heterodox Bernie guy who is sympathetic to social conservatism and right-wing populism.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    He can be as good a writer as he likes… back home in whatever country it is where they produce creatures named Shadi Hamid.

  94. The beatings will continue until morale improves …

  95. Now that we’re back in the riotous Sixties, déjà voudoun, consider that in 1966 a certain small state sued a certain large state, claiming that what Thomas Jefferson called the “general ticket” statutes, a.k.a. “unit rule” and “winner-take-all”, violated the Equal Protection Clause, as, among other defects, their state would probably never supply a major-party presidential candidate.

    The two states were Delaware and New York. Sound familiar?

    State-vs-state cases go directly to SCOTUS, which in this case dismissed it for “non-judiciability“. Delaware, and nearly every other state, had employed the rule before New York, effectively forcing the latter. Maryland was the only other holdout. South Carolina’s legislature appointed electors directly until 1860, so their use of the rule was de facto rather than de jure.

    In 1966, Delaware Attorney General David P. Buckson (R) filed a lawsuit on behalf of the state of Delaware and 11 other predominantly low-population states (including North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Utah, Arkansas, Kansas, Oklahoma, Iowa, Kentucky, Florida, Pennsylvania) against New York concerning New York’s use of the winner-take-all rule in presidential elections. Under the winner-take-all rule (also called the “unit rule” or “general ticket” system), all of a state’s electoral votes are awarded to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in each separate state. In State of Delaware v. State of New York, the plaintiff states argued that New York’s use of the winner-take-all rule effectively disenfranchised voters in their states. The Supreme Court declined to hear the case (presumably because of the well-established constitutional provision that the manner of awarding electoral votes is exclusively a state decision). Ironically, the defendant (New York) is no longer an influential closely divided battleground state (as it was in the 1960s). Today, New York suffers the very same disenfranchisement as most states because it too has become politically non-competitive. Today, a vote in New York is equal to a vote in Delaware: votes in both are equally irrelevant in presidential elections.

    NPV: Delaware

  96. “I think he meant: “If Biden loses, mass unrest is more likely …””

    No, he meant exactly what he said, Mr. Sailer. Of course, you neglect to inform your readers how Trump insists that “the only way we lose this election is if the election is rigged”. That way, it primes his supporters for the event if Biden wins, then there is automatic questioning of the results, with bricks and guns in tow by the radical right. See: Robert Jeffress.

    Insanely, if Trumps wins, well, the election was “fair”. Now, imagine if Biden would make this exact pronouncement. Would you give him a free pass, Mr. Sailer? I do imagine you are well aware of this game played by Trump, and choose not to NOTICE it.

    After all, you are this alleged expert pattern recognizer…

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Corvinus

    We need a YAWN button for this klaun.

  97. @Neoconned
    @Whiskey

    Anybody got a link to the story about trying to seize Manhattan apts?

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    • Thanks: Neoconned
  98. @Steve Richter
    clearly the violence and protests will ramp up even higher if Trump is re-elected. And Trump has shown he has no answer to how to lessen the unrest.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Trump has shown he has no answer to how to lessen the unrest.

    Trump does have an answer: he offers federal LEO and troops to any city that will accept them. It’s to up to him to force assistance upon Democratic-run cities that don’t wan it. If they prefer to let their cities burn, that’s their choice.

    • Agree: black sea
  99. @Hereward the Woke
    Purely on the level of description, he’s correct. The Dems will take a loss much worse than the other side will. One can draw one’s own prescriptive conclusions from that fact.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    The Democrats broke the social contract in 2015, when the Obama administration began spying on and plotting against Trump. Then, with the so-called “Resistance,” they showed that they would not accept the results of the election. This has been their MO for some time.

    Here are two observations by the late Lawrence Auster that were quite prescient:

    (November 19, 2011) The two parties are not playing the same game. They play different games, under different rules. What are these different rules? The Republicans more or less follow the laws and constitutional procedures, the Democrats deliberately and consciously break them. But the Republicans, while they complain incessantly about the Democrats, never identify this underlying fact. Why? Because that would show that the system is no longer legitimate. And the function of the Republicans, as “patriotic, conservative Americans,” is to uphold the goodness and legitimacy of the system, a legitimacy which rests on the belief that everyone in American politics shares the same basic principles and loyalties. So the Republicans, as defenders of the system and its presumed basic unity, cannot expose what the Democrats are. If they exposed it, politics would be replaced by open war between two radically incompatible parties and America as we know it would come to an end.

    (November 06, 2012) The Democratic Party continues to demonstrate its criminal and dictatorial nature. Former DNC chairman Howard Dean declared on television that if Obama loses Ohio, it must be because Republicans prevented Democrats from voting or because voting machines did not work. In short, Democrats are entitled to win, entitled to rule the country. Any other result must be because of fraud or voter suppression or racism, and thus is illegitimate. The only legitimate outcome is Democratic victory. This has been for a long time the Democrats’ view of American politics, but the nice, brain-dead Republicans never identify it or make the Democrats accountable for it.

    I believe Trump’s election has exposed the Democrats’ agenda and, as Auster predicted, politics has been replaced by open war between two radically incompatible parties and America as we knew it has indeed come to an end.

  100. @Corvinus
    "I think he meant: “If Biden loses, mass unrest is more likely …”"

    No, he meant exactly what he said, Mr. Sailer. Of course, you neglect to inform your readers how Trump insists that "the only way we lose this election is if the election is rigged". That way, it primes his supporters for the event if Biden wins, then there is automatic questioning of the results, with bricks and guns in tow by the radical right. See: Robert Jeffress.

    Insanely, if Trumps wins, well, the election was "fair". Now, imagine if Biden would make this exact pronouncement. Would you give him a free pass, Mr. Sailer? I do imagine you are well aware of this game played by Trump, and choose not to NOTICE it.

    After all, you are this alleged expert pattern recognizer...

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    We need a YAWN button for this klaun.

  101. @Kronos
    @Whiskey

    I’m afraid so, politicians were only able to control the 1960s cop vs. black via massive domestic spending.

    https://www.amazon.com/Age-Entitlement-America-Since-Sixties/dp/1501106899


    The borrowing power of the Baby Boom generation was invested in avoiding the choices that the confrontations of the 1960s had placed before the country. What the debt paid for was social peace, which had come to be understood as synonymous with the various Great Society programs launched by Lyndon Johnson in the two years after the Kennedy assassination. We should understand the Great Society as the institutional form into which the civil rights impulse hardened, a transfer from whites to blacks of the resources necessary to make desegregation viable. Desegregation was, as we have said, the most massive undertaking of any kind in the history of the United States. Like any massive undertaking, it required endurance, patience, and prohibitive expense. Almost everyone who did not benefit from it was going to be made poorer by it. Now it was being presented to the public as the merest down payment on what Americans owed.
     
    Of course, it didn’t work and now there’s no money/resources left to keep the monster sedated.

    Replies: @Thomas, @Neoconned, @Hamlet's Ghost

    “once you have paid him the Danegeld/ You never get rid of the Dane.”
    -Rudyard Kipling

    Nowadays you might call it the “Negrogeld”, but the lesson is the same.

  102. @AndrewR
    @Thomas

    Oh but they will.

    Did you miss the video of the Indian owner of a car dealership in Kenosha who had much of his property destroyed? He said "I'm not even white." Well, I know from experience that blacks often don't or can't distinguish between "whites" and our high caste Indian cousins. And regardless, "not being white" ain't gonna save you from angry mobs freshly gaslit by the media.

    I mean, these people could go back to China or India instead of having to pay for America's sins, real and imagined, but many won't.

    Replies: @Thomas, @Reg Cæsar

    It’s a lot easier to steal from people when they’re too cucked and brainwashed to stand up for themselves. The high-low conspiracy against whitey has always been “I’ll hold him down, and you rob him!” Selling white guilt to non-whites is definitely an uphill push. Actually, what we’ve been seeing more than that is elite Paperwork Americans getting in on getting whitey. Finding a reason to hate whites, like e.g., India’s colonial history and cultural chauvinism, helps the process along considerably (as has been covered here and there on this blog). That seems to be one reason that high-caste Indians seem to be in the process of being groomed for a distinct role as part of the new ruling elite of the USA.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Thomas

    This summer has proven to counter Steve's "flight from white" phenomenon. The fundamental racial divide in the US has always been black vs. non-black. While certain Levantine elites might love the idea of siccing everyone on wypipo, much of this is unnatural. 2020 is the year in which black supremacists have attained their most power yet. Of course they must keep it kosher, but it still sucks for the rest of us. The demand by blacks for reparations is not going to diminish, no matter how many foreigners we import. The "my fellow POC" act that certain non-black ethnic groups might use to ingratiate themselves to blacks will not work.

  103. @Thomas
    @AndrewR

    It's a lot easier to steal from people when they're too cucked and brainwashed to stand up for themselves. The high-low conspiracy against whitey has always been "I'll hold him down, and you rob him!" Selling white guilt to non-whites is definitely an uphill push. Actually, what we've been seeing more than that is elite Paperwork Americans getting in on getting whitey. Finding a reason to hate whites, like e.g., India's colonial history and cultural chauvinism, helps the process along considerably (as has been covered here and there on this blog). That seems to be one reason that high-caste Indians seem to be in the process of being groomed for a distinct role as part of the new ruling elite of the USA.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    This summer has proven to counter Steve’s “flight from white” phenomenon. The fundamental racial divide in the US has always been black vs. non-black. While certain Levantine elites might love the idea of siccing everyone on wypipo, much of this is unnatural. 2020 is the year in which black supremacists have attained their most power yet. Of course they must keep it kosher, but it still sucks for the rest of us. The demand by blacks for reparations is not going to diminish, no matter how many foreigners we import. The “my fellow POC” act that certain non-black ethnic groups might use to ingratiate themselves to blacks will not work.

  104. @Glaivester
    Shadi Hamid is obviously not an American.

    He has to go back.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Sending him back wouldn’t refute his thesis. It’s nice to see someone explicitly spell out what has been an implicit threat.

  105. @Neo Morpheus
    President Trump will win re-election.

    Any violent nonsense by the left will be put down. President Trump and patriotic Americans have had enough of it.

    Don’t be fooled or intimidated by the same group of a few hundred people in a respective city, or even a few thousand in larger cities, carrying on over and over.

    There is a massive awakening going on, the real “woke.” Tsunamis start quiet and deep, until they emerge.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    This comment is brought to you by the Republican National Committee.

  106. @AndrewR
    @Thomas

    Oh but they will.

    Did you miss the video of the Indian owner of a car dealership in Kenosha who had much of his property destroyed? He said "I'm not even white." Well, I know from experience that blacks often don't or can't distinguish between "whites" and our high caste Indian cousins. And regardless, "not being white" ain't gonna save you from angry mobs freshly gaslit by the media.

    I mean, these people could go back to China or India instead of having to pay for America's sins, real and imagined, but many won't.

    Replies: @Thomas, @Reg Cæsar

    And regardless, “not being white” ain’t gonna save you from angry mobs freshly gaslit by the media.

    Gas Light Service ain’t what it used to be.

  107. @Trinity
    Prediction for the upcoming SELECTION

    Trump wins and (((Antifa/BLM goons))) will riot because they will be pissed and they think they are untouchable.

    Biden wins and (((Antifa/BLM goons))) will riot because they will be happy and will really think they are untouchable at that point and time.

    Expect more riots from these (((goons.)))

    Replies: @Ripple Earthdevil, @Elmer T. Jones, @sayless

    Trump will win, they will start to riot, and the instigators will be mopped up overnight.

  108. @Jim Don Bob
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    Why am I reading about strident opinions about the politics of my country from something calling itself ” Shadi Hamid”?
     
    He is probably an H1-B. They are having trouble finding even wypipo stupid enough to think that writing for the Atlantic is a good career move.

    Replies: @sayless

    The Atlantic sullied its brand by promoting Tennessee so heavily. I wonder if Jeffrey Goldberg has any sense of self-respect left.

  109. @Joe Magarac
    If they win by terrorism, they will rule by terrorism. Nobody ever got mellower by getting power.

    That said, I wonder if this argument will actually win any votes?

    Replies: @Redman, @David

    No votes, but it might make some rioters think that they have an especial right to riot when Biden loses. “When you put your hand in a pile of mush that moments before was your fondest hope, you’ll know what to do.”

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