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From The Atlantic:
The App at the Heart of the Movement to End Affirmative Action
“WeChat is a monster. There’s nothing like it on Earth.”
ALIA WONG, NOV 20, 2018
OiYan Poon stumbled upon WeChat largely by accident.
Poon is a professor at Colorado State University who studies the racial politics of higher education. For years she had consistently found that most Asian Americans supported affirmative action, but in 2014, something surprised her: A fledgling network of politically savvy Asian Americans had derailed a Democrat-backed ballot initiative in California that would’ve rescinded the state’s long-standing ban on race-conscious admissions. These activists—with their loud, recurring demonstrations, scathing op-eds, pro-Republican canvassing, and roundtable discussions on Chinese-language talk shows—had materialized unexpectedly, at least to Poon.
Determined to learn more, Poon in 2016 took to her typical research methods—convening a team of students and colleagues to help her pore through court filings, news stories, social-media posts, and the like—in an effort to track these dissenters down.
I like how postmodernist SJW academic language is evolving to sound like the dialogue of secret policemen in 1950s WWII movies: Track these dissenters down. Interrogate them. Ve haf veys of making them talk!
But the few activists who did have an online footprint didn’t respond to Poon’s inquiries. The professor continued to flounder until she took the advice of an acquaintance and opened an account on WeChat, the popular messaging app based in China. The virtual gathering place was a hub for these activists.
You can see the logic in this trial balloon article: once Facebook and the like are tamed so that you can’t learn anything in English from Facebook users that wouldn’t pass ideological muster with the editor of the New York Times, then the struggle to neuter the Internet must move on to outposts of problematic thinking in other languages, such as Chinese.
In the long run, can Liberal Democracy tolerate the existence of languages besides English?
One language to rule them all.
English
Arabic
Chinese (Simplified)
Dutch
French
German
Hebrew
Hindi
Italian
Japanese
Korean
Persian
Polish
Portuguese
Russian
Spanish
Swedish
Turkish
Vietnamese
“OiYan Poon stumbled upon WeChat largely by accident.”
Yeah, she probably googled her own name.
I'd have a little more respect for the Professor of Racial Politics in Higher Education, iStevers. I'm pretty flippant sometimes, but I am still in awe of that Chinese 5,000 year-old culture. Do you all understand that this professor can trace her roots back 2,800 years, all the way to the PoonTang Dynasty?Replies: @It's All Ball Bearings, @Mike Tre
OT: Just learned of the existence of the “progressive stack”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_stack
Apparently this is already in practice with many chapters of the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America, left-wing group to which Ocasio-Cortez belongs).
“—in an effort to track these dissenters down.” The modern imperative.
What kind of a name is Poon?
If they’re using WeChat they’re likely born and raised in China and therefore unburdened by “white guilt”. One of my colleagues is from China and in her mind the idea that you would give preferences to people who are not the smartest and not the hardest workers, but due solely to their race, is crazy.
Pretty weird, huh?
Who knows what these inscrutable yellow devils are plotting? Only a detective called… Poon!
I actually read a study last year about “right wing Chinese on WeChat”, where it claimed that they opposed AA, shared stories of Muslim terrorism, and supported Trump.
It appears overassimilated liberals like OiYan Poon has picked up on it. She can fuck on right off.
Sidenote: One way to stir shit in a rival society is to give their dissidents a platform. So what if the west’s dissident right started using online platforms hosted in non-western countries? Russia and China should think about this opportunity.
They have as much interest in deplatforming America’s best and brightest as our own illegitimate mediocracy does.
I don't think either of them are quite smart enough to see it.
Thanks to clickbait, most snoops and scolds don’t even read past the first sentence of a post unless it has words like OWNED or BOOM, or has that picture of a lotion-covered finger that looks like a wang.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=poon
Paging Reg Caesar:
Her name is an anagram for “O, pay (The) Onion”.
I say the story is a fake (maybe).
http://www.soe.chhs.colostate.edu/faculty-staff/poon.aspx
She's an assistant professor. She's chasing after tenure and hoping to become a full professor by doing this. You don't get a write up about your work in the Atlantic without connivance on your part. She had to contact the Atlantic writer herself to get this piece planted in their publication. She's pulling strings to make herself more of a public name in hopes of increasing her status. By backstabbing her own race and yanking up the ladder behind her for Asians, she's hoping to curry favor with SJW administration of Colorado State.
She's a disgusting piece of garbage.Replies: @Rosamond Vincy, @Intelligent Dasein
Nemesis is coming for the SJWs. The only question is how many of us are going down with them.
Safer to use their own trolls, which they very much are doing and it’s currently driving our deep state and it’s devotees bananas.
They have as much interest in deplatforming America’s best and brightest as our own illegitimate mediocracy does.
Any forum that is not policed by the left will become right wing.
This is the sort of app that Apple or Google would ban, for duplicating core OS functions, but also for political incorrectness. But the app creator in China couldn’t care less if they ban it in the US, and it would be an international incident if they banned it in China, akin to banning Facebook or a Twitter. WeApp is too big to ban.
Content filters in messages have also been implemented for quite a while and messages with certain words in them or unwanted videos and pictures you send simply vanish in transmission and never arrive at the recipient.Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
had materialized unexpectedly, at least to Poon.
This is a real news story that somehow got through the machines at Lies, Inc.: unprecedented information, precision, and focus is being dedicated to thought control, and Trump still happens. Should we reconsider our methods or naw let’s just censor everything and call people Nazis.
jcd, and the Left counters by saying the brightest and the successful did through white privilege, although there are not laws governing white privilege.
Many thanks Steve for the best laugh I have had in a long time and for everything you do.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_stackApparently this is already in practice with many chapters of the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America, left-wing group to which Ocasio-Cortez belongs).Replies: @Forbes, @Hypnotoad666, @Alden, @Anon
The stack started with the Occupy Wall Street folks, IIRC. Wrestling with it caused all sorts of organizational/logistical issues, so people walked out of their “town hall” meetings because they couldn’t get anything accomplished–like how to run a meeting.
Just looked at the Wiki link–and my memory recall was on-target.
For how long, if that is our future leadership?
Weihan Zhang ( https://twitter.com/liangweihan4 ) seems to survive via the simple expedient of using the acronym “bn” to confuse the twitter cops.
It takes very rainy day to drown duck.
‘…One of my colleagues is from China and in her mind the idea that you would give preferences to people who are not the smartest and not the hardest workers, but due solely to their race, is crazy.’
Pretty weird, huh?
There’s always Niue. Or Tuvalu. Or the Caymans. Or, now, eSwatini.
Sailer only posted this article because of this name
.
... and that's just from me.
https://images.adgully.com/img/400/201706/image017.jpg
Unless that race is Han.
That's nonsense.
--90% of Chinese popn are Han. Most of the non-Han are not visible minorities and often they've Han names.
--''Han" is NOT a race. Being a ''Han'' meaning sharing the language, customs, culture and above all a sense of lineage
………
Take a look at the pics of dalai lama and see if he looks diffierent from the average chinese
Alia Wong =
A wino gal.
A low gain.
Gona wail.
Wag a loin.
Loan a wig.
Aw, I Anglo.
OiYan Poon =
On yo’ piano!
Yeah, she probably googled her own name.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Harry Baldwin
Haha, Mike, but still,
I’d have a little more respect for the Professor of Racial Politics in Higher Education, iStevers. I’m pretty flippant sometimes, but I am still in awe of that Chinese 5,000 year-old culture. Do you all understand that this professor can trace her roots back 2,800 years, all the way to the PoonTang Dynasty?
Smart fly keep out of gravy.
Yep. It’s guaranteed to bring in 50 more comments …
.
… and that’s just from me.
https://youtu.be/2rIxuLPRqacReplies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Anonymous
It is a nickname. The full name is ‘Wang Dang Sweet Poon Tang’ – just ask Ted.
Baizou. They have the Baizou in their sights.
True and true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_stackApparently this is already in practice with many chapters of the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America, left-wing group to which Ocasio-Cortez belongs).Replies: @Forbes, @Hypnotoad666, @Alden, @Anon
So the comments get progressively smarter the longer the meeting lasts. At least that gives you a reason to stick around to the very end.
Asian Americans support affirmative action
Ssians wont allow themselves to be used by racist white conservatives to kick down other minority communities. Tgey have to get better scores than everyone, including white applicants. Don’t let them group us together as a narrative targeting black students. We know why affirmative action came to exist. The fact that white applicants have an upperhand over Asian Americans is non sensical.
Communities of color stick
To tether
Whites don’t tray
“WeChat is a monster. There’s nothing like it on Earth.”
Translated: these are people we can’t punish for being politically incorrect on a platform we can’t control.
In some ways it is, though. The amount of information the Chinese government can suck in through this thing is unheard of. I just see it as worse than Facebook, Twitter, etc. which I don’t use, in that the voice data and real-time video can very likely all be stored. OTOH, who knows what Apple and Samsung have set up to send in whatever you’ve been doing to the NSA?
I’ve used it, and I’ve had someone ask me to connect that way lately. I give her my phone number. That’s what the thing rotting in my pocket is, a TELEPHONE.
I think the Chinese can take care of the PC for our ctrl-left crowd pretty well. It’s just that they’ll cut out some waivers for the Chinese in America to help them “get ahead in life”, per Confucius, or at least the Confucius Society.
“Diversity and Inclusion” is the idea that we need to discriminate against Asians in favor of Hispanics because of Jim Crow and slavery. As it turns out Asians aren’t big fans.
Chinese opposition to AA (as they call it) is not new. The country of Singapore was more-or-less created out of Chinese opposition to pro-Malay Affirmative Action.
Clever kids! While the Social Media Censors are getting their panties in a twist about the already doomed whites, our future Sino-Overlords quietly fly under the radar. I’ll take my chances with the Yellow Wave rather than the Blue or Brown.
Red, white, and blue still the best; but may no longer be on offer.
Interesting, in that I just watched and commented on a year-and-a-half old video of Jordan Peterson trying to give a lecture at a Canadian university and getting drowned out by these people. He said that their protesting is done “… as an expression of a philosophy grounded partly in post-modernism and partly in Marxism.” It think the Marxism is winning out – maybe not the theory, but at least the techniques.
I understand your “Ve haf ways …” expression is from the Nazis in the old WWII movies, because one just didn’t get to see very many movies showing the same sort of Commie oppression ( I guess they just didn’t make it at the box office, I dunno?). Honestly, I wouldn’t be able to tell you if that was a German or Russian accent, so I’m thinking “Commies”.
Yeah, she probably googled her own name.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Harry Baldwin
I don’t like to think of what would come up if I Googled “Poon.”
Think of her licensing possibilities:
My favorite example was when Occupy invited the sacrosanct Rep John Lewis to a demonstration, but wouldn’t let him speak due to all the “twinkles” and “temperature checks” necessary to establish his place in the progressive stack.
Russia and China should think about this opportunity.
I don’t think either of them are quite smart enough to see it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_stackApparently this is already in practice with many chapters of the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America, left-wing group to which Ocasio-Cortez belongs).Replies: @Forbes, @Hypnotoad666, @Alden, @Anon
That’s been going on in college groups and even classes at least 15 years. It’s also done in HR brainwashing classes.
Aggressive and self-interested immigrant factions unburdened by white guilt, speaking a language that’s nearly impenetrable to non-native speakers, organizing on an platform hosted in their old country… One more reason open borders and diversitythink will not go the way its architects think it will.
Russia-originating Telegram is in vogue with some right groups.
It seems that Ms. Poon is doing very well indeed by doing good: from her CV
Wow — 1.93 megabucks! And, apparently she got this the same year she finished her Ph.D. — none of this nonsense about working her way up the academic ladder.
Is this lady a successful Asian entrepreneur or what?!
Might be interesting to see where the money went: it’s US governemnt money, so a FOIA request might be feasible.
But, somehow I’m thinking Ms. Poon might not be real happy if someone tried to “track down” how she spent the money!
They can pay her with the money not wasted on losers who teach Anglo-Saxon sound laws or chemical formulae.
A lot of Western dissidents have already made the switch to VK.com, which is based out of Russia.
Why are American taxpayers funding a program that is designed for the express benefit of one racial group?
No, Ms Poon is quite the businesswoman: her bachelor's degree is actually in marketing. All she has to do is stick a knife in the back of everybody else of her own ethnicity, and she can live a very nice life indeed.
It must be nice being a kept pet of the ruling white elite, and the only price you have to pay is to betray everyone of your own ethnic group. There's a Chinese tradition: "the lucky cricket in a cage."Replies: @Buck Turgidson, @Fred Boynton
Chinese Guy in his Southern China Sea Volcano Lair:
“Yes Mr Bond. And now witness as we enhance it with …. AI!”
This is a family station, let’s just say, “Meowwww”.
Are there any non-White professors who specialize in, say, English Lit or Finance or Anthropology rather than “Not Being White Racial Grievance Studies”?
I’m totally serious.
Anonymous[268] wrote to me:
Oh, I have some good news: while Ms. Poon’s research program is evidently benefiting Ms. Poon, it is not benefiting her own racial group at all. Her whole shtick is to attack her fellow coethnics — Amy Chua, for example: typical publication from Ms. Poon is “Ching Chongs and Tiger Moms” (I am not making this up!).
No, Ms Poon is quite the businesswoman: her bachelor’s degree is actually in marketing. All she has to do is stick a knife in the back of everybody else of her own ethnicity, and she can live a very nice life indeed.
It must be nice being a kept pet of the ruling white elite, and the only price you have to pay is to betray everyone of your own ethnic group. There’s a Chinese tradition: “the lucky cricket in a cage.”
Studying 'the racial politics of higher education.' Now why didn't I think of that when deciding upon a course of study and career?Replies: @AKAHorace, @bomag
If what you're saying is actually true, then I unironically want to give Ms Poon as much money as she wants and let her get to work with as little interference as possible. If she's even a little bit effective, she'll be the most worthwhile academic in North America (and likely the world).Replies: @PhysicistDave
Asians Against Affirmative Action (A4) is so Wong in so many ways.
Everytime I go on it, VK looks dead. I have read that the government of Russia is snooping so people are avoiding it. Have no idea if that is true
Agreed. Funniest line in this piece, IMNSVHO, is:
It is baizuo, not baizou.
The corollary is that any forum policed by the left will brand any dissenter to be a Nazi.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M5hbKguhzVU
Ssians wont allow themselves to be used by racist white conservatives to kick down other minority communities. Tgey have to get better scores than everyone, including white applicants. Don't let them group us together as a narrative targeting black students. We know why affirmative action came to exist. The fact that white applicants have an upperhand over Asian Americans is non sensical.
Communities of color stick
To tether
Whites don't trayReplies: @The Alarmist, @Expletive Deleted, @Anonymous
Tiny Duck have Fat Ginger.
Actually…
No, Ms Poon is quite the businesswoman: her bachelor's degree is actually in marketing. All she has to do is stick a knife in the back of everybody else of her own ethnicity, and she can live a very nice life indeed.
It must be nice being a kept pet of the ruling white elite, and the only price you have to pay is to betray everyone of your own ethnic group. There's a Chinese tradition: "the lucky cricket in a cage."Replies: @Buck Turgidson, @Fred Boynton
Sounds like poon has a sweet gig there in Fort Collins CO. Tenured (?) professor, special protected class, job security for life (minorities are almost untouchable in the university “system”). State employee, good salary, benefits, maybe a pension. The CO taxpayer $$ at work.
Studying ‘the racial politics of higher education.’ Now why didn’t I think of that when deciding upon a course of study and career?
Our POC overclass sure has a preternatural ability to build and maintain such things; I guess they found something that they are good at.
I'm totally serious.Replies: @South Texas Guy
Not sure about finance or anthropology, but there are a higher-than-pop.-percentage of non whites who do get phds in English, history, theatre, etc. Just as easy to bullshit in these fields, and you have more respectability in them, rather grievance studies, et. al.
Chinese opposition to AA (as they call it) is not new. The country of Singapore was more-or-less created out of Chinese opposition to pro-Malay Affirmative Action.Replies: @Lurker
Those Malays eh?! Thinking it was their country!
Crispy Duck.
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1064656305535807489
https://twitter.com/PatrickRuffini/status/1064868333147832320?Replies: @Mr. Rational, @LondonBob
Ben Shapiro is controlled oppo. He’s “safe” to let the rubes read. All actual oppo has been comprehensively de-platformed from both FB and TWTR.
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1064656305535807489
https://twitter.com/PatrickRuffini/status/1064868333147832320?Replies: @Mr. Rational, @LondonBob
Censorship is expensive and the elections have passed now, the commissars will be back for 2020.
I'd have a little more respect for the Professor of Racial Politics in Higher Education, iStevers. I'm pretty flippant sometimes, but I am still in awe of that Chinese 5,000 year-old culture. Do you all understand that this professor can trace her roots back 2,800 years, all the way to the PoonTang Dynasty?Replies: @It's All Ball Bearings, @Mike Tre
Wang Dang!
I've used it, and I've had someone ask me to connect that way lately. I give her my phone number. That's what the thing rotting in my pocket is, a TELEPHONE.I think the Chinese can take care of the PC for our ctrl-left crowd pretty well. It's just that they'll cut out some waivers for the Chinese in America to help them "get ahead in life", per Confucius, or at least the Confucius Society.Replies: @Anonymous
Optimist only sees doughnut, pessimist sees hole.
Asians work the system better than anyone else. I would say that they are probably most culturally prone to like the crony capitalist style of Democrats of Nancy Pelosi. However… as in California and with the recent Harvard issues… affirmative action isn’t being rolled out for them. It would destroy the opportunities for their other pets, Hispanics and Blacks, the two groups destined to lead the Democrats to Super Majority status. It is funny to see how well they were brainwashed though like Ms Poon, by the SJW educational system. Affirmative Action isn’t a system that rewards hard academic work is it like the Asians do in the US… but yet Ms Poon is defending it.
I can’t see how China won’t dominate the US soon as the SJW systems we have are going to accelerate with the coming Democrat super majority. A system based upon rewarding people with political patronage versus a culture that is striving for excellence.
No one seems to have remarked on the fact that Alia Wong’s piece in The Atlantic gave WeChat credibility that they could not have bought for any amoount of money: really, if you were a social media platform, wouldn’t you just die to have a respected, middle-brow US publication describe you as “WeChat is a monster. There’s nothing like it on Earth.”
The rumor I hear from Chinese acquaintances is that WeChat is hoping to expand into the mainstream US market. If I were Zuckerberg, I’d be starting to get a bit nervous.
Also, has everyone noticed that Alia Wong actually lets the Chinese-American opponents of Affirmative Action have their say? And that they come across as pretty reasoanble?
And, then Wong refers to “Chi Zhang, a doctoral student at the University of Southern California who studies WeChat…” “who hasn’t yet figured out what her stance on affirmative action is.” Ms. Zhang studies this stuff but really hasn’t formed an opinion?? Anyone really believe that? Any bets as to Zhang’s real opinion?
Wong does toss in a throwaway line referring to the “unfounded accusations that Ivy League institutions have Asian quotas” to prove that she is a really a liberal in good standing. But no one of any race or political view actually believes that those accusations are “unfounded.” That’s just boilerplate.
Alia.Wong is very close to getting off the plantation. It will be interesting to keep an eye on her.
Conservatives make the mistake of believing there's something wrong with American institutions preferring to remain American. If you prefer a border wall or limits on immigration, then why wouldn't it make sense for internal borders and limits be set by Ivy admissions?Replies: @Anonymous
The rumor I hear from Chinese acquaintances is that WeChat is hoping to expand into the mainstream US market. If I were Zuckerberg, I'd be starting to get a bit nervous.
Also, has everyone noticed that Alia Wong actually lets the Chinese-American opponents of Affirmative Action have their say? And that they come across as pretty reasoanble?
And, then Wong refers to "Chi Zhang, a doctoral student at the University of Southern California who studies WeChat..." "who hasn’t yet figured out what her stance on affirmative action is." Ms. Zhang studies this stuff but really hasn't formed an opinion?? Anyone really believe that? Any bets as to Zhang's real opinion?
Wong does toss in a throwaway line referring to the "unfounded accusations that Ivy League institutions have Asian quotas" to prove that she is a really a liberal in good standing. But no one of any race or political view actually believes that those accusations are "unfounded." That's just boilerplate.
Alia.Wong is very close to getting off the plantation. It will be interesting to keep an eye on her.Replies: @Anonymous, @Kyle, @M. Hartley, @Forbes
Remember, front seldom tell truth. To know occupant of house, always look in back yard.
Of course they’re not banning WeChat in China, it is way too useful for the government and under full control. All messages you send are stored and can be freely accessed by the caring hands of the CPC, without any pesky search warrants or other Western style legal hurdles. To join groups above a certain size and for quite a few functions you need to link your WeChat account to a bank account, which links your real identity to your online profile and because WeChat can be used for EVERYTHING it is also the perfect surveillance tool, knowing not just where you went from your ride sharing use, but anything you spend money on because people use it to pay everywhere, from roadside bbq stalls to shopping malls, online purchases and even to pay for utilities.
Content filters in messages have also been implemented for quite a while and messages with certain words in them or unwanted videos and pictures you send simply vanish in transmission and never arrive at the recipient.
It's astonishingly convenient, but with the proviso that the Chinese government has access to almost every move you make.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
He is priceless and quite clever, but even he has to keep changing accounts.
Fifty bucks to the first wordsmith here who can make a mashup of that and “We gon’ pitch a wang dang doodle.”
*Full disclosure*
I’ve been looking for Poon for most of my adult life.
NEVER would I have thought I would find it on iSteve on Thanksgiving morning!
It was also going on in my daughter’s elementary school classroom fifteen years ago.
No, other languages must not be allowed to exist. In order to ensure the political and economic freedoms of subjects around the world, America must stamp out all other cultures, languages, and political entities which are not America, while simultaneously allowing any and all of said subjects to immigrate to America.
Invade the world, invite the world.
In the name of diversity.
I’m confused. Is there some other purpose of government programs?
The rumor I hear from Chinese acquaintances is that WeChat is hoping to expand into the mainstream US market. If I were Zuckerberg, I'd be starting to get a bit nervous.
Also, has everyone noticed that Alia Wong actually lets the Chinese-American opponents of Affirmative Action have their say? And that they come across as pretty reasoanble?
And, then Wong refers to "Chi Zhang, a doctoral student at the University of Southern California who studies WeChat..." "who hasn’t yet figured out what her stance on affirmative action is." Ms. Zhang studies this stuff but really hasn't formed an opinion?? Anyone really believe that? Any bets as to Zhang's real opinion?
Wong does toss in a throwaway line referring to the "unfounded accusations that Ivy League institutions have Asian quotas" to prove that she is a really a liberal in good standing. But no one of any race or political view actually believes that those accusations are "unfounded." That's just boilerplate.
Alia.Wong is very close to getting off the plantation. It will be interesting to keep an eye on her.Replies: @Anonymous, @Kyle, @M. Hartley, @Forbes
He’s i can absolutely believe that a little Asian girl doesn’t have an opinion on something. They don’t really sit around all day “wondering” about things like you and I like to do.
The rumor I hear from Chinese acquaintances is that WeChat is hoping to expand into the mainstream US market. If I were Zuckerberg, I'd be starting to get a bit nervous.
Also, has everyone noticed that Alia Wong actually lets the Chinese-American opponents of Affirmative Action have their say? And that they come across as pretty reasoanble?
And, then Wong refers to "Chi Zhang, a doctoral student at the University of Southern California who studies WeChat..." "who hasn’t yet figured out what her stance on affirmative action is." Ms. Zhang studies this stuff but really hasn't formed an opinion?? Anyone really believe that? Any bets as to Zhang's real opinion?
Wong does toss in a throwaway line referring to the "unfounded accusations that Ivy League institutions have Asian quotas" to prove that she is a really a liberal in good standing. But no one of any race or political view actually believes that those accusations are "unfounded." That's just boilerplate.
Alia.Wong is very close to getting off the plantation. It will be interesting to keep an eye on her.Replies: @Anonymous, @Kyle, @M. Hartley, @Forbes
The accusations are completely unfounded. Correlation is not causation, and no college should be required to enroll a surfeit of grinds just because they have good grades and test scores. Leadership demands more. Much more.
”Unless that race is Han”
That’s nonsense.
–90% of Chinese popn are Han. Most of the non-Han are not visible minorities and often they’ve Han names.
–”Han” is NOT a race. Being a ”Han” meaning sharing the language, customs, culture and above all a sense of lineage
………
Take a look at the pics of dalai lama and see if he looks diffierent from the average chinese
Underrated: Yellow beats Blue, in every sense.
Red, white, and blue still the best; but may no longer be on offer.
Sort of, but if that’s your only takeaway you’re missing the point, which is that oppo, controlled or not, is routing the preferred narratives.
I'd have a little more respect for the Professor of Racial Politics in Higher Education, iStevers. I'm pretty flippant sometimes, but I am still in awe of that Chinese 5,000 year-old culture. Do you all understand that this professor can trace her roots back 2,800 years, all the way to the PoonTang Dynasty?Replies: @It's All Ball Bearings, @Mike Tre
Nice set up!
Studying 'the racial politics of higher education.' Now why didn't I think of that when deciding upon a course of study and career?Replies: @AKAHorace, @bomag
Because you are white ?
No, Ms Poon is quite the businesswoman: her bachelor's degree is actually in marketing. All she has to do is stick a knife in the back of everybody else of her own ethnicity, and she can live a very nice life indeed.
It must be nice being a kept pet of the ruling white elite, and the only price you have to pay is to betray everyone of your own ethnic group. There's a Chinese tradition: "the lucky cricket in a cage."Replies: @Buck Turgidson, @Fred Boynton
and the only price you have to pay is to betray everyone of your own ethnic group.
If what you’re saying is actually true, then I unironically want to give Ms Poon as much money as she wants and let her get to work with as little interference as possible. If she’s even a little bit effective, she’ll be the most worthwhile academic in North America (and likely the world).
The Chinese are not our enemy. The Russians are not our enemy. Blacks, Hispanics, and Jews are not our enemy.
The people who have wrecked this country are the ruling elite, who are still predominantly white and who, historically, were overwhelmingly white.
The Chinese did not drag us into countless wars that have cost well over a million American lives in the last 160 years. The Russians did not wreck our educational system. Blacks and Hispanics did not destroy ninety-five percent of the value of the dollar during the twentieth century or create an inherently unstable banking and financial system that swings back-and-forth from boom to bust.
It is the predominantly white ruling elite that did all of that.
Yes, the elite throws a few crumbs to blacks and Hispanics to buy them off and to divide whites from non-whites.
"Divide-and-conquer": the classic way to control an empire.
Go ahead and cheer at how the elite is paying off Poon to turn on her own ethnic group, but just remember you are doing exactly what the elite wants you to do: hate and despise anyone except the ruling elite.Replies: @Saxon, @Rosamond Vincy
apparently Bolsonaro’s supporters were banned from Facebook etc before the election and so moved to Gab en masse – one of the reasons the bad guys went after Gab maybe?
The point is that the controlled oppo is not offering any viewpoints or action items which are any real threat to the controllers’ agenda. If they go off-message they get de-platformed too.
I’m guessing Poon is no later than second-generation Chinese-American. If that’s so, how on earth can she be that deluded about Asian-Americans and affirmative action unless she literally never speaks to her parents and any of their friends and family?
I get the impression that Jews in academia are not happy about the thought of Asian numbers in schools climbing, because the Asians are as smart as the Jews are, but their interests do not align. Asians also hate blacks and black crime and consider blacks to be inferior.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_stackApparently this is already in practice with many chapters of the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America, left-wing group to which Ocasio-Cortez belongs).Replies: @Forbes, @Hypnotoad666, @Alden, @Anon
In primitive tribes, they always allow the lower-status members, the younger members, and the dummies to speak first. But it’s the usual tribal elders who do all the talking at the end of the session and they decide things. They let the lower-status members vent and feel that their concerns are being listened to, which maintains group solidarity. Tribal people have a lot of stomach for long meetings. But the lower-status members still don’t have much power to influence decisions, and they are always privately considered to be a bunch of fools by the elders, or they’d already be part of the tribal elder circle.
Impressing a bunch of old guys who know more than you and who have seen it all is difficult, and they don’t allow you to join their number easily.
But they went home where the lights still glowed; the toilets still flush; the phone still rings.
For how long, if that is our future leadership?
Her name is an anagram for "O, pay (The) Onion".
I say the story is a fake (maybe).Replies: @Anon
The prof is real:
http://www.soe.chhs.colostate.edu/faculty-staff/poon.aspx
She’s an assistant professor. She’s chasing after tenure and hoping to become a full professor by doing this. You don’t get a write up about your work in the Atlantic without connivance on your part. She had to contact the Atlantic writer herself to get this piece planted in their publication. She’s pulling strings to make herself more of a public name in hopes of increasing her status. By backstabbing her own race and yanking up the ladder behind her for Asians, she’s hoping to curry favor with SJW administration of Colorado State.
She’s a disgusting piece of garbage.
Time was when publishing in mainstream was the kiss of death to being taken seriously--witness the woman in Huntsville, Alabama who shot up her colleagues.
The rumor I hear from Chinese acquaintances is that WeChat is hoping to expand into the mainstream US market. If I were Zuckerberg, I'd be starting to get a bit nervous.
Also, has everyone noticed that Alia Wong actually lets the Chinese-American opponents of Affirmative Action have their say? And that they come across as pretty reasoanble?
And, then Wong refers to "Chi Zhang, a doctoral student at the University of Southern California who studies WeChat..." "who hasn’t yet figured out what her stance on affirmative action is." Ms. Zhang studies this stuff but really hasn't formed an opinion?? Anyone really believe that? Any bets as to Zhang's real opinion?
Wong does toss in a throwaway line referring to the "unfounded accusations that Ivy League institutions have Asian quotas" to prove that she is a really a liberal in good standing. But no one of any race or political view actually believes that those accusations are "unfounded." That's just boilerplate.
Alia.Wong is very close to getting off the plantation. It will be interesting to keep an eye on her.Replies: @Anonymous, @Kyle, @M. Hartley, @Forbes
Of course the Ivies have Asian (Chinese) quotas. The Ivies prefer to remain American institutions.
Conservatives make the mistake of believing there’s something wrong with American institutions preferring to remain American. If you prefer a border wall or limits on immigration, then why wouldn’t it make sense for internal borders and limits be set by Ivy admissions?
Born to administer a Diversity/Multicultural/Inclusionary Center at your neighborhood Ivy.
They can pay her with the money not wasted on losers who teach Anglo-Saxon sound laws or chemical formulae.
http://www.soe.chhs.colostate.edu/faculty-staff/poon.aspx
She's an assistant professor. She's chasing after tenure and hoping to become a full professor by doing this. You don't get a write up about your work in the Atlantic without connivance on your part. She had to contact the Atlantic writer herself to get this piece planted in their publication. She's pulling strings to make herself more of a public name in hopes of increasing her status. By backstabbing her own race and yanking up the ladder behind her for Asians, she's hoping to curry favor with SJW administration of Colorado State.
She's a disgusting piece of garbage.Replies: @Rosamond Vincy, @Intelligent Dasein
So the old method of getting tenure by publishing copiously in peer-reviewed academic journals read only by other academics in your field no longer applies?
Time was when publishing in mainstream was the kiss of death to being taken seriously–witness the woman in Huntsville, Alabama who shot up her colleagues.
Conservatives make the mistake of believing there's something wrong with American institutions preferring to remain American. If you prefer a border wall or limits on immigration, then why wouldn't it make sense for internal borders and limits be set by Ivy admissions?Replies: @Anonymous
You’re defending affirmative action, a system that discriminates against Whites in favor of blacks and Hispanics. That’s you’re idea of “remaining an American institution?”
The AA, as practiced (at issue in the lawsuit), requires limiting Asians (Chinese) so as to accommodate blacks and Hispanics. Were admission solely by academic merit (a basis the lawsuit against Harvard pursues), black and Hispanic admission offers would decline dramatically.
What I'm advocating is institutional choice not inhibited by the government by means implicit or explicit, e.g. AA.
http://www.soe.chhs.colostate.edu/faculty-staff/poon.aspx
She's an assistant professor. She's chasing after tenure and hoping to become a full professor by doing this. You don't get a write up about your work in the Atlantic without connivance on your part. She had to contact the Atlantic writer herself to get this piece planted in their publication. She's pulling strings to make herself more of a public name in hopes of increasing her status. By backstabbing her own race and yanking up the ladder behind her for Asians, she's hoping to curry favor with SJW administration of Colorado State.
She's a disgusting piece of garbage.Replies: @Rosamond Vincy, @Intelligent Dasein
And you know this how?
Studying 'the racial politics of higher education.' Now why didn't I think of that when deciding upon a course of study and career?Replies: @AKAHorace, @bomag
I can’t imagine anyone circa 1954 suggesting that as a field of study in a US university. How were we able to find any improvement in those “dark” ages?
Our POC overclass sure has a preternatural ability to build and maintain such things; I guess they found something that they are good at.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M5hbKguhzVU
Ssians wont allow themselves to be used by racist white conservatives to kick down other minority communities. Tgey have to get better scores than everyone, including white applicants. Don't let them group us together as a narrative targeting black students. We know why affirmative action came to exist. The fact that white applicants have an upperhand over Asian Americans is non sensical.
Communities of color stick
To tether
Whites don't trayReplies: @The Alarmist, @Expletive Deleted, @Anonymous
A ketamine haiku! Such learnings. Many privilege.
Content filters in messages have also been implemented for quite a while and messages with certain words in them or unwanted videos and pictures you send simply vanish in transmission and never arrive at the recipient.Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
This is too true. On our recent trips to mainland China, we’ve found it almost impossible to function without using WeChat or AliPay. Lots of restaurants, shops — even taxi drivers — are reluctant, or even outright refuse, to deal with cash.
It’s astonishingly convenient, but with the proviso that the Chinese government has access to almost every move you make.
I wrote about this worry about wei-chat under one of the recent Fred Reed articles on his travel to Chendu, China. The Chinese have increased their prosperity so rapidly, but I don't know if many of them really care how the system is clamping down again. Doing business in cash is one of the main ways people can stay under the radar of "The Man", whether he is the Chinese Central Committee of the IRS and NSA here.
I know that Chinese people, besides putting their money in housing, creating a bubble there, used to (maybe still do) keep piles of cash around. The biggest bill they've got is around $15 (the 100 Yuan bill), so it may be a big damn pile.Replies: @Anonymous
Invade the world, invite the world.
In the name of diversity.Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
Agreed.
Invade the world, invite the world, so that we can save the world, and make all of its people just like us.
LOL, Poon.
Affirmative Action is not a problem for whites. Simply identify as Hispanic. It is illegal for an employer to ask about your ancestry. It is defined as a culture, not a race. It is impossible to objectively test you on this matter.
If what you're saying is actually true, then I unironically want to give Ms Poon as much money as she wants and let her get to work with as little interference as possible. If she's even a little bit effective, she'll be the most worthwhile academic in North America (and likely the world).Replies: @PhysicistDave
Fred Boynton wrote to me:
And that is exactly how the ruling elite want you to think.
The Chinese are not our enemy. The Russians are not our enemy. Blacks, Hispanics, and Jews are not our enemy.
The people who have wrecked this country are the ruling elite, who are still predominantly white and who, historically, were overwhelmingly white.
The Chinese did not drag us into countless wars that have cost well over a million American lives in the last 160 years. The Russians did not wreck our educational system. Blacks and Hispanics did not destroy ninety-five percent of the value of the dollar during the twentieth century or create an inherently unstable banking and financial system that swings back-and-forth from boom to bust.
It is the predominantly white ruling elite that did all of that.
Yes, the elite throws a few crumbs to blacks and Hispanics to buy them off and to divide whites from non-whites.
“Divide-and-conquer”: the classic way to control an empire.
Go ahead and cheer at how the elite is paying off Poon to turn on her own ethnic group, but just remember you are doing exactly what the elite wants you to do: hate and despise anyone except the ruling elite.
The basic bitch talking point about "divide and conquer" misses the obvious point: Bringing in all of these people was a divisive act. Propaganda aimed at brainwashing people of my own ethnic and racial kin into thinking this is somehow an unalloyed good and anyone against it somehow evil was a dividing act. I can dislike both the people at the top who did this and the people they are using as tools to do this.Replies: @PhysicistDave
Confucius got nothing on you, #375.
It's astonishingly convenient, but with the proviso that the Chinese government has access to almost every move you make.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
That is surprising to me, TLRC, as what I was most impressed with 15 years back was the ability to do everything in cash and bargain on about everything. We’ve been much more recently than that, though it was not in big city (for long), and we still did everything in cash, including paying for some medical care – this was, in fact what I was most impressed with, not the quality of the care so much, but the lack of bureaucracy and the efficiency of the medical business dealings we went through: Free Market Health-Care in China (Part 2, Part 3 and Postscript)
I wrote about this worry about wei-chat under one of the recent Fred Reed articles on his travel to Chendu, China. The Chinese have increased their prosperity so rapidly, but I don’t know if many of them really care how the system is clamping down again. Doing business in cash is one of the main ways people can stay under the radar of “The Man”, whether he is the Chinese Central Committee of the IRS and NSA here.
I know that Chinese people, besides putting their money in housing, creating a bubble there, used to (maybe still do) keep piles of cash around. The biggest bill they’ve got is around $15 (the 100 Yuan bill), so it may be a big damn pile.
It did start with Occupy Wall Street as a method of marginalizing the only people who stayed on the topic of the bank bailouts; they just all happened to be white men. Astroturfing jewesses and frizzy-haired mulattoes made a complete mockery of the whole idea of why the thing started.
The Chinese are not our enemy. The Russians are not our enemy. Blacks, Hispanics, and Jews are not our enemy.
The people who have wrecked this country are the ruling elite, who are still predominantly white and who, historically, were overwhelmingly white.
The Chinese did not drag us into countless wars that have cost well over a million American lives in the last 160 years. The Russians did not wreck our educational system. Blacks and Hispanics did not destroy ninety-five percent of the value of the dollar during the twentieth century or create an inherently unstable banking and financial system that swings back-and-forth from boom to bust.
It is the predominantly white ruling elite that did all of that.
Yes, the elite throws a few crumbs to blacks and Hispanics to buy them off and to divide whites from non-whites.
"Divide-and-conquer": the classic way to control an empire.
Go ahead and cheer at how the elite is paying off Poon to turn on her own ethnic group, but just remember you are doing exactly what the elite wants you to do: hate and despise anyone except the ruling elite.Replies: @Saxon, @Rosamond Vincy
“The elite” are disproportionately of a certain group and their actions benefit that certain group. Also, your platitudes about how these people are somehow not my enemy does not change the reality of territorial carry capacity, resources being limited and the fact that my own people are being robbed of self-determination, the ability to choose our own leaders and set our own policy, and that we are essentially being subjugated into a tax-serf class of people who have been marked for racial extinction via exterminationist policies from the top down.
The basic bitch talking point about “divide and conquer” misses the obvious point: Bringing in all of these people was a divisive act. Propaganda aimed at brainwashing people of my own ethnic and racial kin into thinking this is somehow an unalloyed good and anyone against it somehow evil was a dividing act. I can dislike both the people at the top who did this and the people they are using as tools to do this.
The Chinese are not our enemy. The Russians are not our enemy. Blacks, Hispanics, and Jews are not our enemy.
The people who have wrecked this country are the ruling elite, who are still predominantly white and who, historically, were overwhelmingly white.
The Chinese did not drag us into countless wars that have cost well over a million American lives in the last 160 years. The Russians did not wreck our educational system. Blacks and Hispanics did not destroy ninety-five percent of the value of the dollar during the twentieth century or create an inherently unstable banking and financial system that swings back-and-forth from boom to bust.
It is the predominantly white ruling elite that did all of that.
Yes, the elite throws a few crumbs to blacks and Hispanics to buy them off and to divide whites from non-whites.
"Divide-and-conquer": the classic way to control an empire.
Go ahead and cheer at how the elite is paying off Poon to turn on her own ethnic group, but just remember you are doing exactly what the elite wants you to do: hate and despise anyone except the ruling elite.Replies: @Saxon, @Rosamond Vincy
The ruling elite is made up of anyone who has ridiculous amounts of money. There are still a few Social Register trust babies, but any oil sheik could buy 12 of them and still have enough left over to hire a different Hollywood starlet every week for a yachting gig.
To be sure, the Clintons are unusually mercenary, but I think most members of the elite -- the Bush clan, Pelosi, et al. -- want power.
The basic bitch talking point about "divide and conquer" misses the obvious point: Bringing in all of these people was a divisive act. Propaganda aimed at brainwashing people of my own ethnic and racial kin into thinking this is somehow an unalloyed good and anyone against it somehow evil was a dividing act. I can dislike both the people at the top who did this and the people they are using as tools to do this.Replies: @PhysicistDave
Saxon wrote to me:
The immigrants (legal and illegal) are doing what you or I would probably do in their situation. You may not like having them around (especially in large numbers), you may think the policy is unwise, but to despise them as human beings is to despise people who are simply trying to better their own lives in the same way you or I would.
On the other hand, I hope that you and I would not behave in the way the ruling elite has behaved — sending young men off to die in pointless wars and all the rest.
Also, purely pragmatically, things can only be turned around if decent people start to fight back against the ruling elite: Trump’s saving grace is that he has started that process. To distract from that core issue is to unwittingly serve the ruling elite.
Really tangled web here, friend.
Rosamund Vincy wrote to me:
I don’t think that is actually true: I think the ruling elite as a whole wants power more than money.
To be sure, the Clintons are unusually mercenary, but I think most members of the elite — the Bush clan, Pelosi, et al. — want power.
I wrote about this worry about wei-chat under one of the recent Fred Reed articles on his travel to Chendu, China. The Chinese have increased their prosperity so rapidly, but I don't know if many of them really care how the system is clamping down again. Doing business in cash is one of the main ways people can stay under the radar of "The Man", whether he is the Chinese Central Committee of the IRS and NSA here.
I know that Chinese people, besides putting their money in housing, creating a bubble there, used to (maybe still do) keep piles of cash around. The biggest bill they've got is around $15 (the 100 Yuan bill), so it may be a big damn pile.Replies: @Anonymous
When money talk, few are deaf.
More on the the philosophy of the Confucius.
So they have no agency? They can’t decide to not mercilessly exploit and loot us through a rigged system? And I shouldn’t hate them when they do because hey man they’re just animals acting on instinct but also at the same time it’s morally wrong to resist them being in what is essentially my people’s land and encroaching on it and what we create.
Really tangled web here, friend.
I thought #375 was Confucius, now it’s you, #245 with the sage tidbits of wisdom. I am Confused on who is the real Confucius.
More on the the philosophy of the Confucius.
Yeah, but the Glovetrotters aren’t supposed to get pantsed by the Generals. That’s why they have the Generals.
The Littlest Chickenhawk isn’t pantsing anyone. He’s pushing the same “muh Russia” nonsense as the Democrats do. Controlled, or perhaps I should say (((fake))), oppo.
So yeah, you’re rightish.
They’d still prefer if Maddow or whoever were all the rage.
https://youtu.be/2rIxuLPRqacReplies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Anonymous
“Poon” is short for PoonTang. LOL!
Your reading comprehension leaves something to be desired–like comprehension. I’m not defending affirmative action in the slightest.
The AA, as practiced (at issue in the lawsuit), requires limiting Asians (Chinese) so as to accommodate blacks and Hispanics. Were admission solely by academic merit (a basis the lawsuit against Harvard pursues), black and Hispanic admission offers would decline dramatically.
What I’m advocating is institutional choice not inhibited by the government by means implicit or explicit, e.g. AA.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M5hbKguhzVU
Ssians wont allow themselves to be used by racist white conservatives to kick down other minority communities. Tgey have to get better scores than everyone, including white applicants. Don't let them group us together as a narrative targeting black students. We know why affirmative action came to exist. The fact that white applicants have an upperhand over Asian Americans is non sensical.
Communities of color stick
To tether
Whites don't trayReplies: @The Alarmist, @Expletive Deleted, @Anonymous
Favourite pastime of man is fooling himself.
Don’t disagree in general, but the context was that listicle that no one actually cares about anyway.
So yeah, you’re rightish.
They’d still prefer if Maddow or whoever were all the rage.