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From the Washington Post news section:

As Trump deploys federal agents to Chicago, his toxic history with the city has officials, residents on edge

By Kim Bellware and Mark Guarino
July 21, 2020 at 7:10 p.m. PDT

CHICAGO — Federal agents will be deployed to Chicago for an anti-violence operation that is expected to bolster existing law enforcement efforts but won’t resemble the same heavy-handed tactics seen recently in Portland, Ore., Mayor Lori Lightfoot and a federal prosecutor in Chicago said Tuesday.

Although details on how many agents will be deployed to the city and when remain unclear, several state and local officials signaled their wariness at federal intervention ordered by President Trump, who frequently disparages Chicago and politicizes its gun violence epidemic.

How dare Trump politicize Chicago’s gun violence epidemic? Science says that gun violence epidemics have nothing to do with politics.

From the Chicago Sun-Times:

14 shot outside Gresham funeral home
The shooting happened in the 1000 block of West 79th Street; 1 person of interest is being questioned.

By Frank Main, Carly Behm, Sam Charles, and Emmanuel Camarillo Updated Jul 21, 2020,

Fourteen people were shot Tuesday evening outside a funeral home in Gresham on the South Side — the largest number of victims in a single Chicago shooting in recent memory. ….

Chicago fire officials said they were listed in conditions ranging from serious to critical. …

Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when people inside began “firing at attendees of a funeral.” Some of those at the funeral returned gunfire with those in the vehicle. The driver then turned north onto Carpenter, while at least one person in the vehicle continued to shoot at the funeralgoers.

The driver soon crashed in the 7800 block of South Carpenter. Those inside the vehicle ran off in different directions, though one “person of interest” was taken into custody and was being questioned by detectives Tuesday night, Carter said.

Sources said the funeral was for Donnie Weathersby, 31, who was shot and killed last week in the 7400 block of South Stewart — about a mile and half northeast of where Tuesday’s shooting occurred.

… Arnita Geder and Kenneth Hughes said they were in their home watching TV when they heard gunshots.

“We went out in the street and all we saw was bodies just laying everywhere,” Geder said. “They were shot up everywhere.”

“We thought it was a war out here. It’s ridiculous all the shooting that’s going on out here, it really has to stop,” she said. …

Tuesday’s mass shooting is among the bloodiest single incidents of violence in modern Chicago history – leaving a tally more akin to a battleground in Afghanistan or Iraq than a city street. …

Tuesday’s mass shooting comes just one day after President Donald Trump told reporters in the Oval Office that he was looking at sending federal agents to Chicago and other cities to combat crime.

“We’re not going to let this happen in our country. All run by liberal Democrats,” the president said Monday.

That prompted Mayor Lori Lightfoot to say, “We don’t need federal agents without any insignia taking people off the streets, I think, unlawfully.”

Trump has repeatedly bashed Chicago as an example of big cities unable to contain surges of violence this year. Murders in Chicago are up almost 50% compared with the same period of 2019. And on May 31, Chicago suffered the single deadliest day in six decades, with 18 murders. As violence has risen in recent months, police activity has fallen, with arrests, traffic stops and street stops far below 2019 levels, a Chicago Sun-Times analysis found.

iSteve commenter Jack Armstrong notes:

So, a largely peaceful funeral where most mourners weren’t shot.

And only a few of the funeral party fired back.

 
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  1. Gentile whites — without help from anyone else — have repeatedly shown themselves capable of egalitarian excess. The French Revolution, the Clapham abolitionists, John Brown and his backers, the miscegenist enthusiasms of the Grimke sisters and other radical integrationists are all products of purely gentile delusion. Even if it were possible to prove that Jewish influence derailed what used to be a healthy American racial consciousness, that is a historical question not directly relevant to what we must accomplish now.

    So, there is a need to stop blaming Jews for the failure of Whites.

    • Disagree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Jesse
    @Argentine American

    Don't love how we got here, but we're at the right destination! Also, thank you for acknowledging that Jews are, in fact, White. The WN tendency to pretend they aren't is part of a wider tendency to class as White anyone they like and "otherize" anyone they don't. They have no inclination to or practise in working with Whites that don't agree with their moronic "screw equality!" mindset, which is why they've achieved nothing. Ever.

    Replies: @Hans, @BenKenobi, @Abolish_public_education

    , @Hans
    @Argentine American

    Except there are large numbers of people who still do not understand why "their" systems consistently fail and work against their own interests. Education is always essential.

    Nesta Webster did a very good work on the "French" Revolution - https://archive.org/details/NestaHWebsterTheFrenchRevolution

    Churchill praised her work (in this once very easy-to-find article), "This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus--Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognisable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire." - https://archive.org/details/ZionismVsBolshevismByWinstonChurchill

    Solzenitsyn said pretty much the same thing in his final book, 200 Years Together, what you can't read in English for some odd reason.

    Replies: @El Dato

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Argentine American

    Argentina is the most Jewish country in the hemisphere other than the US, yet has avoided much of the worst of this. Is it the occasional military interlude in government? The balance brought by National Socialist refugees? A heightened sense of the Anglophobia common to all Hispanic countries? (Lusophone Brazil doesn't suffer from this.)

    Just fewer immigrants? All those Italians?

    No legacy of melanomania slavery?

    Replies: @OP

    , @J.Ross
    @Argentine American

    What a very interesting unprovoked outburst. Your criminal paranoia is unjustified, though: this is Trump cracking down on the golem, and he would never touch the man who wrote in their forehead.

    , @JSM
    @Argentine American

    There is NO need to stop blaming Jews, cuz they're in on it. And they don't receive anywhere near enough heat for the size of their contribution.

    , @Colin Wright
    @Argentine American

    '...Even if it were possible to prove that Jewish influence derailed what used to be a healthy American racial consciousness, that is a historical question not directly relevant to what we must accomplish now.

    So, there is a need to stop blaming Jews for the failure of Whites.'

    This is practically nonsensical. It is the media et al -- and in particular, Jews in the media et al -- who are doing so much to prevent us from doing what we need to do now.

    Go ahead. Compile a list of the non-black figures driving all this. Come back and tell me Jews make up only two percent of that list.

    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Argentine American

    Dejate de joder, turco.

    , @Anon
    @Argentine American

    "So, there is a need to stop blaming Jews for the failure of Whites."

    This is the only thing you really wanted to say, the rest was camouflage.

  2. White funerals rarely involve gunfights. Thus, arresting anyone involved with this incident is clearly racist, and probably illegal.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    @Hypnotoad666


    White funerals rarely involve gunfights. Thus, arresting anyone involved with this incident is clearly racist
     
    - FIFY -

    After centuries of White Privilege, gun fire seldom or never breaks out at white funerals. Thus, this incident is clearly the result of White Supremacism.
    , @VinnyVette
    @Hypnotoad666

    White funerals rarely involve gunfights. Thus, arresting anyone involved with this incident is clearly racist, and probably illegal.
    Unless it's the Hatfield's or McCoys.

  3. Key reads here are:

    Some of those at the funeral returned gunfire with those in the vehicle.

    So the mourners came strapped, came with guns. I would have too, given the circumstances.

    The driver soon crashed in the 7800 block of South Carpenter. Those inside the vehicle ran off in different directions

    Like cockroaches scattering. It rains in Chicago and sometimes it rains bullets. No one will be arrested for any of this anarchy. No one saw nothing.

  4. • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    @Clifford Brown

    I think the Bob Neuhart show took place in 1970s Chicago.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @AnotherDad
    @Clifford Brown

    I don't even like listening to that--"go away" is the neural signal generated.

    And i quite enjoy the music--of quite a number of varieties--used for TV show intros. I was just thinking about this last night. Much of it is quite catchy.

    I think in my old age, i'm really quite tired of the pushy, noisy, nature of "black" stuff.

  5. Former Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel’s brother advocates death by 75. Surely this funeral shootout is just some of Chicago’s finest and exuberant citizens putting this inevitable policy into practice. They’re just a few years ahead of the curve.

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
    @Change that Matters

    What is the age of Rahm Emanuel's brother?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Change that Matters

  6. Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when people inside began “firing at attendees of a funeral.” Some of those at the funeral returned gunfire with those in the vehicle.

    If you could travel back in time, 50 years or more, no one you spoke with would ever believe that funerals would one day be seen as natural places for gunfights. Nowadays you have to have casualties in the double digits to justify headlines. What’s the trend here?

    If only someone could figure out how to keep all these guns from going off all the time, or — barring that — get guns out of law-abiding hands. Makes sense, right?

    Separately, and more seriously, Trump is an idiot for sending in federal forces to all of these Democrat cities which have made it amply clear that they like the way they’re doing things. His political instincts–which many here believe are sterling–are as bad as any president I can remember. He’s passing up a golden opportunity to let all of America see where Dem policies lead.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Mr McKenna

    But at this point the Democratic Mayors are on record regarding their preferences. So it's cool.

    https://i.postimg.cc/Y9yW2kN6/Saloon-inspection.jpg

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Mr McKenna

    He’s passing up a golden opportunity to let all of America see where Dem policies lead.

    I think everyone who has eyes to see has already gotten the message that this is where Dem policies lead. For him not to at least try to do something about it would show a failure of leadership. His base, and others who might be swayed in his direction, expect it of him.

    Also, the fact that the local and state Dem politicians are angry that Trump wants to do something about the violence in their cities further demonstrated where Dem policies lead.

    As the MSM plays it, Trump will be damned if he does and damned if he doesn't, but I think the public is capable of figuring out what's going on.

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Mr McKenna


    Separately, and more seriously, Trump is an idiot for sending in federal forces to all of these Democrat cities which have made it amply clear that they like the way they’re doing things.
     
    This really does feel like a Clinton-esque triangulation, doesn't it?

    Pretty sure that people didn't vote for Trump to be a triangulator.
    , @Mr. Anon
    @Mr McKenna

    I hope at least that all the shooters and victims were wearing masks.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Mr McKenna


    Separately, and more seriously, Trump is an idiot for sending in federal forces to all of these Democrat cities which have made it amply clear that they like the way they’re doing things. His political instincts–which many here believe are sterling–are as bad as any president I can remember. He’s passing up a golden opportunity to let all of America see where Dem policies lead.
     
    I agree. Democrats voted for these governments, voted for these policies. That's what federalism is for. The feds should stay out of it, especially if the response is to send in unmarked police in military uniforms to throw people into unmarked vans (which is why a lot of us never wanted a DHS in the first place).

    But then Trump really is an idiot.

    Replies: @petit bourgeois

    , @Kolya Krassotkin
    @Mr McKenna

    If you could traveled back in time, 50 years or more, and spoke to anyone who had spent time in Africa, they would believe that shootouts at funerals would one day occur.

    Black Chicagoans are only returning to their roots. Their homicide rates reflect those you find in Africa.

    Replies: @CCZ, @Buffalo Joe

    , @Alfa158
    @Mr McKenna

    I thought the officers were being sent in to defend Federal facilities such as courthouses, law enforcement bureaus, offices etc. That seems to clearly be the case in Portland where the buildings are literally under siege. I’m not aware of places where the officers are trying to generally enforce law and order on the streets.

    , @Not my Economy
    @Mr McKenna


    If you could travel back in time, 50 years or more, no one you spoke with would ever believe that funerals would one day be seen as natural places for gunfights.
     
    50 years ago in America, okay. But still if you specified that it was a funeral for a guy in a gang, they’d get it right away.

    100, 150, 250, 500 years ago...A funeral is an obvious target for violence, a whole lot of the enemy tribe all in one place.

    Weddings also historically violent, we all know the story: the best man was the bodyguard in charge to prevent kidnapping of the bride.

    1950s America was a height of human achievement but it was not TRVDITION. Also ever notice how “50 years ago” mentally equates to 1955, rather than 1970?

    , @AnotherDad
    @Mr McKenna


    His political instincts–which many here believe are sterling–are as bad as any president I can remember. He’s passing up a golden opportunity to let all of America see where Dem policies lead.
     
    The main way he's "passing up a golden opportunity" is not properly labelling it to remind people what is actually going on:

    "Democrat riots"

    Repeat and repeat and repeat. Every time Trump--or any Republican--references the riots it should be "Democrat Riots". Respond to the squealing by repeating and point out that yes, it is precisely Democrat mayors, DAs, police chiefs, governors who are encouraging and enabling the rioting.

    "Democrat Riots", "Democrat Riots", "Democrat Riots" ...

    By election day voters neural networks upon seeing "Democrat" on the ballot should pop with "riots" and many will decide they do not want to vote for riots.

    Geez how tough is this stuff ... c'mon.

    (BTW if someone can get Tucker to start using it, Trump just might pick it up.)

    , @Ed
    @Mr McKenna

    I think doing something has more of a positive political impact for Trump than not doing something. Don’t sell the public short on this issue.

    , @Eric Novak
    @Mr McKenna

    Fifty years? Lots of funeral home shootouts in Chicago of 1970, three years after blacks burned down several square miles of the West Side.
    Trump’s deployment of small numbers of federal officers to protect federal properties is common police work and sending them to assist big city police departments in controlling gang violence only points out the nutty contradictions of current-year cosmopolitan progressive mayors. Just a few years ago, Rahm Emmanuel himself openly discussed sending Nat’l Guard units to the South and West Sides of Chicago. These mayors all want Trump out at the expense of thousands of dead blacks. Globo Homo and open borders cannot be stopped for the sake of the hood.

  7. Do we know the rap sheet of any of the victims?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Redneck farmer

    Red, Buffalo's City Grille massacre involved eight shot, five (eventually) dead. The Buffalo News' editor, Margaret Sullivan, was slammed by the black community for noting that 7 of the 8 victims were former felons. Not like shooting up a Day Care center, but that could be next.

    , @Possumman
    @Redneck farmer

    Aren't they all "aspiring rappers"

  8. I’ll go further. The President should refuse to send troops or agents of any kind even if these cities ask for it, which you may be sure they’ll do at some point. These are the places which celebrate looting, with ‘F tha Police’ ‘ACAB’ and “Defund” everywhere you look, and which insist that the cure for crime is stop prosecuting crime.

    Until the day when a few million protesting white chicks learn that real life isn’t actually like Television, or a NYT editorial. But therein lies the problem. Tens of thousands may learn their lessons, but tens of millions imbibe MSM propaganda. Every single day.

    BTW, the Journal ran a good piece yesterday contradicting the ‘donor state’ mantra that the Dems recite about NY, Calif etc. [I can’t tell if it’s behind a paywall so LMK if it needs posting in full.] This matters because the Dems are planning (more) colossal rewards for their strongholds after November.

    [MORE]

    New York Is No ‘Donor State’
    Cuomo’s claim that the Empire State ‘gives’ more than it ‘gets’ is based on distorted measures.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-is-no-donor-state-11595358729

    The Rockefeller Institute’s “Giving or Getting?” report was published in 2017 and used soon after in a widely publicized Associated Press “fact check.” Since then, the report and its subsequent installments have served as the backbone of countless treatises like Paul Krugman’s sunny “The Moochers of Middle America.”

    It isn’t so simple. A food stamp isn’t the same as a serviceman’s paycheck. The former can reasonably be characterized as a federal subsidy—“a gift” in Mr. Cuomo’s parlance—while the latter cannot. The Rockefeller report treats both as gifts, distorting who gets what.

    Texas is home to nearly 219,000 military personnel, New York 60,000. It’s no surprise federal defense-related expenditures in Texas dwarfed those in New York in 2018, $65 billion to $14 billion. From this the Rockefeller report implies Texas got $51 billion more than New York—for the privilege of defending the whole country.

    • Thanks: Gabe Ruth, HammerJack
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Mr McKenna

    Jennifer Levitz of the WSJ says that suburban whites just need to join the BLM movement, and stop being such white supremacists.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-black-lives-matter-sign-stirs-debate-in-a-boston-suburb-11595410200

    WSJ comments are mixed. So although the WSJ is increasingly pozzed, some of its readership is still hanging tough.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/508373-over-280-wall-street-journal-employees-raise-credibility-concerns-about

    WSJ staffers draw the line at letting Heather MacDonald have her say..

    Replies: @Brutusale

    , @Ben Kurtz
    @Mr McKenna

    Liberals lie and conservatives oversimplify.

    Certain government spending -- e.g. military -- indeed benefits the whole country. Yet when the question arises as to where, geographically, to locate that spending, local interests often see it is a boon to get the spending done in their neighborhood. So there is a pork barrel element as well.

    This has been true since the beginning of the Republic -- the original six Constitution-class frigates were built in six different shipyards to spread the spending around, even though economies of scale were lost -- and it continues to this very day. Some military facilities are located in certain places out of sheer necessity (I can't imagine White Sands missile range anywhere other than in the remotest desert southwest), but plenty of it could be here or it could be there based on historical accident and political pull.

    And then there is the second-order private industry stuff -- how many high-tech contractors in Massachusetts and California make good money for their local areas off government and military contracts? Lots! Yet that creates another layer of accounting headache.

    The Rockefeller Institute must knowingly be publishing meaningless propaganda, but getting at anything resembling a true and fair answer to this sort of question is fraught beyond measure.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory, @petit bourgeois

  9. @Clifford Brown
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FVuEfA5QVY

    Replies: @Diversity Heretic, @AnotherDad

    I think the Bob Neuhart show took place in 1970s Chicago.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Diversity Heretic

    Well I'm sure it was filmed in Burbank but yes that's the premise.

    Someone rang the bell though and it's like a pioneer wagon drive to get out of downtown now, a formerly safish area.

    If the disease and thugs dont get you the taxes will.

    # vibrant diversity

  10. Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when people inside began “firing at attendees of a funeral.”

    Sure, pin it on a black car.

    I must say, it was mighty white of them to do the shooting at a funeral home … makes the cleanup easier.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @The Alarmist

    It's great for business for the funeral home too. Word of mouth-to-mouth.

    , @Percy Gryce
    @The Alarmist

    You mean, a Black vehicle.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

  11. Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when people inside began “firing at attendees of a funeral.”

    Interesting how “black” can be an important identifying adjective when applied to “vehicles”, but not to other nouns or persons…

    The [black] shooting happened in the 1000 block of West 79th Street; 1 [black] person of interest is being questioned.
    By Frank Main, Carly Behm, Sam Charles, and Emmanuel Camarillo Updated Jul 21, 2020,

    Fourteen [black] people were shot Tuesday evening outside a funeral home in Gresham on the South Side — the largest number of [black] victims in a single Chicago [black] shooting in recent memory. ….

    Chicago fire officials said they were listed in conditions ranging from serious to critical. …

    Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when [black] people inside began “firing at [black] attendees of a [black] funeral.” Some of those [blacks] at the funeral returned gunfire with those [blacks] in the vehicle. The [black] driver then turned north onto Carpenter, while at least one [black] person in the vehicle continued to shoot at the [black] funeralgoers. The [black] driver soon crashed in the 7800 block of South Carpenter. Those [blacks] inside the vehicle ran off in different directions, though one [black] “person of interest” was taken into custody and was being questioned by detectives Tuesday night, Carter said.

    Sources said the funeral was for Donnie Weathersby, 31, who was shot and killed last week in the 7400 block of South Stewart — about a mile and half northeast of where Tuesday’s [black] shooting occurred.

    … Arnita Geder and Kenneth Hughes, [black], said they were in their home watching TV when they heard gunshots. “We went out in the street and all we saw was [black] bodies just laying everywhere,” Geder said. “They were shot up everywhere.” “We thought it was a [black] war out here. It’s ridiculous all the [black] shooting that’s going on out here, it really has to stop,” she said. …

    Tuesday’s [black] mass shooting is among the bloodiest single incidents of [black] violence in modern Chicago [black] history – leaving a tally more akin to a battleground in Afghanistan or Iraq than a [black] city street. …

    Tuesday’s [black] mass shooting comes just one day after President Donald Trump told reporters in the Oval Office that he was looking at sending federal agents to Chicago and other cities to combat [black] crime. “We’re not going to let this happen in our country. All run by liberal Democrats,” the president said Monday.

    That prompted [black] Mayor Lori Lightfoot to say, “We don’t need federal agents without any insignia taking [black] people off the streets, I think, unlawfully.”

    Trump has repeatedly bashed Chicago as an example of big [black] cities unable to contain [black] surges of [black] violence this year. [black] Murders in Chicago are up almost 50% compared with the same period of 2019. And on May 31, [black] Chicago suffered the single deadliest day in six decades, with 18 [black] murders. As [black] violence has risen in recent months, police activity has fallen, with [black] arrests, traffic stops and street stops far below 2019 levels, a Chicago Sun-Times analysis found.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Rob Lee
    @Charles St. Charles

    *sigh*

    Not to be that guy, Charles St. Charles, but you didn't capitalize ANY of those 'blacks'...

    , @Buck Ransom
    @Charles St. Charles

    It is a sign of shameful institutional racism at the Chicago Sun-Times that the car was not identified as "a Black vehicle."

  12. So, a largely peaceful funeral where most attendees weren’t shot.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
    • LOL: Buffalo Joe, guest007
  13. “ Some of those at the funeral returned gunfire“

    A promising beginning to a sentence.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Lot

    Eh, at this point it's more like "It was a dark and stormy night".

  14. Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west…

    I thought we were capitalizing Black now? Maybe they should have just said Vehicle of Color. Or BiVOC.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @Ozymandias

    Did they really think the color of the car was critical to reporting the incident? Or were they perhaps trying to demonstrate their privilege by perpetuating a systemic stereotype which--as we all know--is false, like all stereotypes?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PvuNAoG0XY

  15. From the Washington Post news section:

    Jeff Bezos – where’s The Real Jeff when we’d need him so badly?

    Maybe we could think of Lassie for help here. I remember an episode in which Lassie who understood right away that Jeff was in bad need for a screwdriver while trying to fix an electrical power line out in the woods rushed back to the ranch and managed to make the right choice of a screwdriver and brought it out to help Jeff! – Why can’t The Real Jeff do that too – help us out at the WaPo? – The Real Jeff is so rich, he should be able to do what Lassie did and – – – -save us all from the mishaps of the- – – zeitgeisty Power lines, hehe fits in here nicely too!

  16. The alleged gunmen who killed the son of Esther Salas, the judge recently assigned to the Epstein-Deutsche Bank case, worked for a company of corporate spies and mercenaries with ties to intelligence and also to Deutsche Bank.

    The case Salas is set to oversee is a class action lawsuit brought by Deutsche Bank investors who allege that Deutsche Bank “failed to properly monitor customers that the Bank itself deemed to be high risk, including, among others, the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.”

    According to his website, Den Hollander once worked for Kroll Associates Moscow Office, where he “managed and upgraded Kroll’s delivery of intelligence and security in the former Soviet Union”

    The Kroll executives in charge of the Russian portfolio prior to Den Hollander were E. Norbett Garrett, a former CIA station chief in Cairo

    Founded by Jules Kroll in 1972, Kroll Associates would later become known as the “CIA of Wall Street” and “Wall Street’s Private Eye” and was alleged to be an actual front for the CIA by French intelligence agencies, according to theWashington Post.

    the firm frequently hired former CIA and FBI officers, as well as former members of MI6 and Mossad. K2 Intelligence, the successor to Kroll Associates founded by Jules Kroll and his son Jeremy in 2009, has similar hiring practices, counting former FBI and NSA officials among its ranks alongside former high-ranking members of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and Shin Bet, Israel’s domestic intelligence agency.

    Kroll became a major provider of mercenaries along with companies like Blackwater and DynCorp to the U.S. invasion and subsequent occupation through its subsidiary Kroll Security International.

    E. Norbett Garrett, the former CIA official turned Kroll executive, told The New Yorker in 2009 the following:

    “Garrett explained the disparity between what Kroll could do and what the C.I.A. could in a place like Sudan. “They have to rely on public and covert sources,” he said. “But we can go straight to Salah Idris. He’s our client, after all. We can go straight to his friends.

    Jules Kroll had an odd meeting with Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine Maxwell’s father, shortly before his death

    Much more recently Kroll came under scrutiny after being hired by disgraced media mogul Harvey Weinstein alongside the “private Mossad for hire” firm Black Cube.

    In addition, Kroll’s long-time executive Vice President for Operations, James Bucknam, was previously chief adviser to former FBI director Louis Freeh and is now CEO of the Freeh Group. Freeh has since become notorious for having been hired by Epstein associate, lawyer Alan Dershowitz, to “investigate” the Epstein scandal, and was also involved in the cover-up of the Penn State child molestation and abuse scandal. Freeh was also director of the FBI when the Bureau declined to investigate accusations regarding Leslie Wexner, Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein and their involvement in the sex trafficking of minors, first reported to the FBI in 1996 by Maria Farmer.

    just last December, Epstein’s personal banker at Deutsche Bank, Thomas Bowers, the chief of Deutsche Bank’s Private Wealth Management division in New York from 2012 to 2015, was found dead in his home. His death was quickly ruled a suicide by hanging. Bowers had also signed off on “unorthodox” loans

    TLDR Summary:

    -Judge Salas was assigned to the money laundering case involving Epstein and Deutsche Bank.
    -Roy Den Hollander dressed in a Fed Ex uniform and conducted a hit at the judge’s home, killing her son and injuring her husband. After committing the hit, he “committed suicide.”
    -Roy Den Hollander had spent years working for Kroll Associates in an “intelligence” role.
    -Kroll hires lot of “former” intelligence operatives from the CIA, FBI, MI6, Israeli Mossad, and Israeli Defense Force.
    -Kroll has provided intelligence services in various foreign countries, including war zones.
    -Weinstein hired Kroll and Black Cube (a Mossad firm) to discredit his accusers.
    -French intelligence considers Kroll to be a CIA front group.

    • Thanks: Paul Jolliffe
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @JohnnyWalker123

    An awful lot of them jews working for Mossad - I wonder how that came about.

    (In a little higher voice: Uhhh. - I'd love to hear that you managed to sell this material to a first-rate German crime writer. Btw. - Deutsche Bank stock hit an all-time low recently).

    Replies: @Clyde, @Anonymous

  17. More recent deaths in the news.

    https://twitter.com/Agenthades1/status/1278846181137768449

    https://twitter.com/Yoder_Esqq/status/1285453722248716288

    TLDR Summary:

    -Epstein’s chef died in his sleep recently.
    -Palm Beach Detective Joseph Recarey (who was the cop who led the Epstein investigation) passed away.
    -Chief Recarey’s investigating partner Officer John Mark Dougan recently fled to Russia, out of fear of assassination. Dougan has documents related to the Epstein case, given to him by Recarey for safe keeping.
    -Epstein’s private banker was recently found swinging from a rope, before the FBI could question him.
    -Epstein’s butler died a few weeks ago.
    -Epstein’s architect Ed Tuttle (who designed the buildings on “pedophile island”) just died.
    -Hollywood mogul Steve Bing was in the same social circle as Epstein and Clinton. His girlfriend was urging him to “expose Epstein.” He recently fell off a building, with the death being declared a “suicide.”
    -Judge Salas was investigating the Epstein-Deutsche bank laundering case. An assassin just killed her son and wounded her husband during an ambush at her home. The assassin used to work for Kroll Associates in an “intelligence” role. Kroll is described as a CIA front group that perform intel operations. It hires lots of “former” CIA, FBI, Mossad, IDF, etc.
    -Epstein committed “suicide” last year.

    • Thanks: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Dude, "to convenient" and "flea to Russia"? Sorry, this is why I avoid the whole twitter world - full of twits without access to spell-check.

    Why do you keep putting in this Epstein stuff here, Johnny? There ought to be an appropriate post on unz somewhere about this. (It does sound pretty damn nefarious, like a movie starring George Soros as that Mike Meyers character.)

    , @El Dato
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "Nooses without Racism".

    ...aaannnd... Twitter squelches QAnon rumor mongering.

    , @VinnyVette
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why does anyone give a rats ass about Jeffery Epstein?

  18. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/_whitneywebb/status/1285412512326918145

    https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/1285420215262748672

    The alleged gunmen who killed the son of Esther Salas, the judge recently assigned to the Epstein-Deutsche Bank case, worked for a company of corporate spies and mercenaries with ties to intelligence and also to Deutsche Bank.

     


    The case Salas is set to oversee is a class action lawsuit brought by Deutsche Bank investors who allege that Deutsche Bank “failed to properly monitor customers that the Bank itself deemed to be high risk, including, among others, the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.”
     

    According to his website, Den Hollander once worked for Kroll Associates Moscow Office, where he “managed and upgraded Kroll’s delivery of intelligence and security in the former Soviet Union”
     

    The Kroll executives in charge of the Russian portfolio prior to Den Hollander were E. Norbett Garrett, a former CIA station chief in Cairo
     

    Founded by Jules Kroll in 1972, Kroll Associates would later become known as the “CIA of Wall Street” and “Wall Street’s Private Eye” and was alleged to be an actual front for the CIA by French intelligence agencies, according to theWashington Post.
     

    the firm frequently hired former CIA and FBI officers, as well as former members of MI6 and Mossad. K2 Intelligence, the successor to Kroll Associates founded by Jules Kroll and his son Jeremy in 2009, has similar hiring practices, counting former FBI and NSA officials among its ranks alongside former high-ranking members of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and Shin Bet, Israel’s domestic intelligence agency.
     

    Kroll became a major provider of mercenaries along with companies like Blackwater and DynCorp to the U.S. invasion and subsequent occupation through its subsidiary Kroll Security International.
     

    E. Norbett Garrett, the former CIA official turned Kroll executive, told The New Yorker in 2009 the following:

    “Garrett explained the disparity between what Kroll could do and what the C.I.A. could in a place like Sudan. “They have to rely on public and covert sources,” he said. “But we can go straight to Salah Idris. He’s our client, after all. We can go straight to his friends.
     

    Jules Kroll had an odd meeting with Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine Maxwell’s father, shortly before his death

     


    Much more recently Kroll came under scrutiny after being hired by disgraced media mogul Harvey Weinstein alongside the “private Mossad for hire” firm Black Cube.
     

    In addition, Kroll’s long-time executive Vice President for Operations, James Bucknam, was previously chief adviser to former FBI director Louis Freeh and is now CEO of the Freeh Group. Freeh has since become notorious for having been hired by Epstein associate, lawyer Alan Dershowitz, to “investigate” the Epstein scandal, and was also involved in the cover-up of the Penn State child molestation and abuse scandal. Freeh was also director of the FBI when the Bureau declined to investigate accusations regarding Leslie Wexner, Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein and their involvement in the sex trafficking of minors, first reported to the FBI in 1996 by Maria Farmer.
     

    just last December, Epstein’s personal banker at Deutsche Bank, Thomas Bowers, the chief of Deutsche Bank’s Private Wealth Management division in New York from 2012 to 2015, was found dead in his home. His death was quickly ruled a suicide by hanging. Bowers had also signed off on “unorthodox” loans
     
    TLDR Summary:

    -Judge Salas was assigned to the money laundering case involving Epstein and Deutsche Bank.
    -Roy Den Hollander dressed in a Fed Ex uniform and conducted a hit at the judge's home, killing her son and injuring her husband. After committing the hit, he "committed suicide."
    -Roy Den Hollander had spent years working for Kroll Associates in an "intelligence" role.
    -Kroll hires lot of "former" intelligence operatives from the CIA, FBI, MI6, Israeli Mossad, and Israeli Defense Force.
    -Kroll has provided intelligence services in various foreign countries, including war zones.
    -Weinstein hired Kroll and Black Cube (a Mossad firm) to discredit his accusers.
    -French intelligence considers Kroll to be a CIA front group.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    An awful lot of them jews working for Mossad – I wonder how that came about.

    (In a little higher voice: Uhhh. – I’d love to hear that you managed to sell this material to a first-rate German crime writer. Btw. – Deutsche Bank stock hit an all-time low recently).

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Dieter Kief


    Btw. – Deutsche Bank stock hit an all-time low recently).
     
    Thanks. I have some money with Deutsche Bank and am going to remove it. I was thinking about doing for convenience sake but now I am going to do it.
    , @Anonymous
    @Dieter Kief

    The so called sayanim. Fifth column essentially.

  19. See? If only those cops in Chicago had let the crowd tear down that statue of Christopher Columbus, this wouldn’t have happened.

    Nice going, cops.

  20. Does it ever occur to anyone to suggest that blacks shouldn’t be allowed to have guns?

    • Agree: Just another serf
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Colin Wright

    It sure has - not least to black people. Maybe they should speak out more loudly. But what if it then occurred, that in order to get this fixed, guns had to be taken away from all others too. Like in Japan, say. - How would the economy answer such a decline in funeral accessories and stuff, to channel P. J. O'Rourke here? - Tough.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @Percy Gryce
    @Colin Wright

    Isn't that Steve's idea that liberal gun control rhetoric is directed at the NRA and rural whites but its actual target is urban blacks?

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Known Fact
    @Colin Wright

    "Stop and Frisk" was designed to at least get them to leave the gun at home once in a while, but we'll never see that policing strategy again

    , @Art Deco
    @Colin Wright

    Why should ordinary people who own guns to hunt, own guns for target shooting, or own guns for personal protection be denied that right if they have not been stripped of it per due process?

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @anon
    @Colin Wright

    Does it ever occur to anyone to suggest that blacks shouldn’t be allowed to have guns?

    Yeah, but those laws were overturned because "equal protection".

    , @William Badwhite
    @Colin Wright


    Does it ever occur to anyone to suggest that blacks shouldn’t be allowed to have guns?
     
    These particular blacks, being in Chicago, are not allowed to have guns already.

    The leftist idea that making guns illegal is going to restrain people that do whatever they want regardless of laws, including shooting other people (which I presume is also illegal), has never been adequately explained.
    , @AnotherDad
    @Colin Wright


    Does it ever occur to anyone to suggest that blacks shouldn’t be allowed to have guns?
     
    Law abiding blacks living in black neighborhoods generally need guns more than the typical white.

    The problem here stems at root from minoritarianism--as most all our problems do.

    If criminal blacks were dealt with forcefully--executed, expelled, exiled--this problem would be drastically mitigated, and generationally tend to resolve. But forceful anti-crime measures are ... "racist", "blaming the victim", "criminalizing poverty". Because as we all know black dysfunction is simply the result of the systemic racism of white gentiles.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  21. All that shooting is enough to wake the dead!

    It reminds me of the Irish folk song, “Finnegan’s Wake,” wherein a hod carrier,recently deceased,isbrought back to life when a row breaks out at his wake,and in the chaos a whiskey bottle is broken,spilling whiskey on the dead fellow. He awakens,quite angry at the misuse of the whiskey.
    Joyce,a year after completing Ulysses,used the character of Finnegan as a starting point for his last novel,named for the song.

    This story also brings back the memory of Willie the Wimp,the hard living son of a big time South Side gangsta. in the mid eighties,the dead young man was buried,you may recall,in a Cadillac themed coffin with hundred dollar bills in his hand. Dressed to the nines of course.

    I find it fantastic that when the car drove by and began shooting, some of the people in the funeral party pulled their guns and fired back. I would almost expect the guest of honor to rise in rage,guns blazing.

  22. @Ozymandias

    Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west...
     
    I thought we were capitalizing Black now? Maybe they should have just said Vehicle of Color. Or BiVOC.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    Did they really think the color of the car was critical to reporting the incident? Or were they perhaps trying to demonstrate their privilege by perpetuating a systemic stereotype which–as we all know–is false, like all stereotypes?

  23. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    @Clifford Brown

    I think the Bob Neuhart show took place in 1970s Chicago.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Well I’m sure it was filmed in Burbank but yes that’s the premise.

    Someone rang the bell though and it’s like a pioneer wagon drive to get out of downtown now, a formerly safish area.

    If the disease and thugs dont get you the taxes will.

    # vibrant diversity

  24. Instead of defund the Police, we need to defund the Medical Trauma Centers. Instead of 100+ shot per weekend, 10 die, we need 100+ shot per weekend, 100 die. We need to make it perfectly obvious that Black Lives Matter so much that they are ready, able, and willing, to murder each other at a rate that achieves significant population reduction. Possibly we could combine this with defund the Utilities and defund the School Lunch program. And every single other program where White taxpayers are forced to support Blacks.

    Currently, Blacks don’t get 10% of the grief that their behavior is inflicting upon them, because the rest of America is a perpetual motion machine of aiding Blacks despite their behavior. It is time for the Negro Race in America to get 100% of the consequences of their behavior unto themselves.

    • Agree: BB753, Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @theMann

    Mann, I put down my sandwich and stood to applaud your comment. Gold border.

  25. And only a few of the funeral party fired back.

    There was a police unit there. It had been assigned to the funeral because there was thought to be a risk of trouble. It is not a lack of police, but rather a lack of the mass incarceration by the annual police operation targeting troublemakers and likely victims before the traditional 4th of July murder spree in the City. So because they did not use the preventive detention strategy this year lots of people died. All black. Which is the way the community want it, or at least prefer that to insensitive (white) warrior policing. They understand. Just don’t pretend to the community that you pretend you care more than they do about black deaths.

    How dare Trump politicize Chicago’s gun violence epidemic?

    I am sure there are local black cops with excellent intelligence on the gunmen. The Feds are going to run around like (white) chickens with their head cuts off and accomplish nothing. Leave it to the real experts, the local specialists.

  26. Fourteen shot and nobody dead. The undertaker must be disappointed at the failure of funerals to self-replicate.

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy
    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Rob McX

    Hard to aim when you're properly masked and maintaining social distance

    , @Grahamsno(G64)
    @Rob McX

    Winos and dopers have shaky hands, that's the fundamental reason for such poor marksmanship from this community of exuberant shooters.

  27. @Colin Wright
    Does it ever occur to anyone to suggest that blacks shouldn't be allowed to have guns?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Percy Gryce, @Known Fact, @Art Deco, @anon, @William Badwhite, @AnotherDad

    It sure has – not least to black people. Maybe they should speak out more loudly. But what if it then occurred, that in order to get this fixed, guns had to be taken away from all others too. Like in Japan, say. – How would the economy answer such a decline in funeral accessories and stuff, to channel P. J. O’Rourke here? – Tough.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Dieter Kief

    'It sure has – not least to black people. Maybe they should speak out more loudly. But what if it then occurred, that in order to get this fixed, guns had to be taken away from all others too. Like in Japan, say. – How would the economy answer such a decline in funeral accessories and stuff, to channel P. J. O’Rourke here? – Tough.'

    I don't see why guns need to be taken away from other people to take them away from blacks.

    We don't let children drive. That doesn't imply we have to prevent you from driving.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

  28. Anonymous[688] • Disclaimer says:

    A rather extreme case of ‘cutting out the middleman’, methinks.

  29. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:

    the largest number of victims in a single Chicago shooting in recent memory

    Ah, recent memory. Well, see, that’s not so bad, then.

    Question for you American maths fellows: if a corpse is hit by a stray round during a Chicago funeral, does that cause the number of wounded to increase? Or are dead people automatically excluded from casualty figures in the Windy City*?

    If the latter, is this not a form of discrimination?

    (Asking for a statistician friend.)

    *After this latest impressive outbreak of, er, peacefulness, isn’t it high time Chicago was rechristened the Shooty City? Fair is fair.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Anonymous

    ThreeEightSeven, well the dead in Chicago have been known to vote, so dead is a political question, not a math problem.

  30. @The Alarmist

    Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when people inside began “firing at attendees of a funeral.”
     
    Sure, pin it on a black car.

    I must say, it was mighty white of them to do the shooting at a funeral home ... makes the cleanup easier.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Percy Gryce

    It’s great for business for the funeral home too. Word of mouth-to-mouth.

    • LOL: The Alarmist
  31. What better place to die than outside a funeral parlor? Look at the bright side!

  32. @JohnnyWalker123
    More recent deaths in the news.

    https://twitter.com/LectorShannibal/status/1254198407360581633

    https://twitter.com/forensicnewsnet/status/1175513909538635776

    https://twitter.com/Thomas1774Paine/status/1268884335710679041

    https://twitter.com/KirbySommers/status/1269538274109984768

    https://twitter.com/Agenthades1/status/1278846181137768449

    https://twitter.com/Yoder_Esqq/status/1285453722248716288

    TLDR Summary:

    -Epstein's chef died in his sleep recently.
    -Palm Beach Detective Joseph Recarey (who was the cop who led the Epstein investigation) passed away.
    -Chief Recarey's investigating partner Officer John Mark Dougan recently fled to Russia, out of fear of assassination. Dougan has documents related to the Epstein case, given to him by Recarey for safe keeping.
    -Epstein's private banker was recently found swinging from a rope, before the FBI could question him.
    -Epstein's butler died a few weeks ago.
    -Epstein's architect Ed Tuttle (who designed the buildings on "pedophile island") just died.
    -Hollywood mogul Steve Bing was in the same social circle as Epstein and Clinton. His girlfriend was urging him to "expose Epstein." He recently fell off a building, with the death being declared a "suicide."
    -Judge Salas was investigating the Epstein-Deutsche bank laundering case. An assassin just killed her son and wounded her husband during an ambush at her home. The assassin used to work for Kroll Associates in an "intelligence" role. Kroll is described as a CIA front group that perform intel operations. It hires lots of "former" CIA, FBI, Mossad, IDF, etc.
    -Epstein committed "suicide" last year.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @El Dato, @VinnyVette

    Dude, “to convenient” and “flea to Russia”? Sorry, this is why I avoid the whole twitter world – full of twits without access to spell-check.

    Why do you keep putting in this Epstein stuff here, Johnny? There ought to be an appropriate post on unz somewhere about this. (It does sound pretty damn nefarious, like a movie starring George Soros as that Mike Meyers character.)

  33. Anonymous[688] • Disclaimer says:

    Some prominent black Muslim is claiming that ‘blacked-up’ “white supremacists” sporadically and intermittently secret themselves in the Chicago ghetto in order to shoot blacks, and then vanish into the thin air, so to speak.

    Despite the fact that no “white supremacist” actually cares enough about blacks to cross the road for one, let alone to go through all the palaver of blacking up, toting a gun firing it, and magically disappearing, the true test of a *real* cold bloodedly evil psychopath is when they can actually convince themselves to believe their own lies.

  34. @Dieter Kief
    @Colin Wright

    It sure has - not least to black people. Maybe they should speak out more loudly. But what if it then occurred, that in order to get this fixed, guns had to be taken away from all others too. Like in Japan, say. - How would the economy answer such a decline in funeral accessories and stuff, to channel P. J. O'Rourke here? - Tough.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘It sure has – not least to black people. Maybe they should speak out more loudly. But what if it then occurred, that in order to get this fixed, guns had to be taken away from all others too. Like in Japan, say. – How would the economy answer such a decline in funeral accessories and stuff, to channel P. J. O’Rourke here? – Tough.’

    I don’t see why guns need to be taken away from other people to take them away from blacks.

    We don’t let children drive. That doesn’t imply we have to prevent you from driving.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Colin Wright

    You're right, of course. I had not been thinking about you, or people like you, but of the social dynamic which might result in the idea to take guns away from blacks might end up in. - Highly speculative, I admit.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  35. @Mr McKenna

    Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when people inside began “firing at attendees of a funeral.” Some of those at the funeral returned gunfire with those in the vehicle.
     
    If you could travel back in time, 50 years or more, no one you spoke with would ever believe that funerals would one day be seen as natural places for gunfights. Nowadays you have to have casualties in the double digits to justify headlines. What's the trend here?

    If only someone could figure out how to keep all these guns from going off all the time, or -- barring that -- get guns out of law-abiding hands. Makes sense, right?

    Separately, and more seriously, Trump is an idiot for sending in federal forces to all of these Democrat cities which have made it amply clear that they like the way they're doing things. His political instincts--which many here believe are sterling--are as bad as any president I can remember. He's passing up a golden opportunity to let all of America see where Dem policies lead.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Harry Baldwin, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Alfa158, @Not my Economy, @AnotherDad, @Ed, @Eric Novak

    But at this point the Democratic Mayors are on record regarding their preferences. So it’s cool.

  36. “…several state and local officials signaled their wariness at federal intervention ordered by President Trump, who frequently disparages Chicago and politicizes its gun violence epidemic.”

    When the Wrong People notice how insane, inept, and poorly behaved you are, it’s “politicizing” it.

  37. @Dieter Kief
    @JohnnyWalker123

    An awful lot of them jews working for Mossad - I wonder how that came about.

    (In a little higher voice: Uhhh. - I'd love to hear that you managed to sell this material to a first-rate German crime writer. Btw. - Deutsche Bank stock hit an all-time low recently).

    Replies: @Clyde, @Anonymous

    Btw. – Deutsche Bank stock hit an all-time low recently).

    Thanks. I have some money with Deutsche Bank and am going to remove it. I was thinking about doing for convenience sake but now I am going to do it.

  38. @JohnnyWalker123
    More recent deaths in the news.

    https://twitter.com/LectorShannibal/status/1254198407360581633

    https://twitter.com/forensicnewsnet/status/1175513909538635776

    https://twitter.com/Thomas1774Paine/status/1268884335710679041

    https://twitter.com/KirbySommers/status/1269538274109984768

    https://twitter.com/Agenthades1/status/1278846181137768449

    https://twitter.com/Yoder_Esqq/status/1285453722248716288

    TLDR Summary:

    -Epstein's chef died in his sleep recently.
    -Palm Beach Detective Joseph Recarey (who was the cop who led the Epstein investigation) passed away.
    -Chief Recarey's investigating partner Officer John Mark Dougan recently fled to Russia, out of fear of assassination. Dougan has documents related to the Epstein case, given to him by Recarey for safe keeping.
    -Epstein's private banker was recently found swinging from a rope, before the FBI could question him.
    -Epstein's butler died a few weeks ago.
    -Epstein's architect Ed Tuttle (who designed the buildings on "pedophile island") just died.
    -Hollywood mogul Steve Bing was in the same social circle as Epstein and Clinton. His girlfriend was urging him to "expose Epstein." He recently fell off a building, with the death being declared a "suicide."
    -Judge Salas was investigating the Epstein-Deutsche bank laundering case. An assassin just killed her son and wounded her husband during an ambush at her home. The assassin used to work for Kroll Associates in an "intelligence" role. Kroll is described as a CIA front group that perform intel operations. It hires lots of "former" CIA, FBI, Mossad, IDF, etc.
    -Epstein committed "suicide" last year.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @El Dato, @VinnyVette

    “Nooses without Racism”.

    …aaannnd… Twitter squelches QAnon rumor mongering.

  39. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dieter Kief
    @JohnnyWalker123

    An awful lot of them jews working for Mossad - I wonder how that came about.

    (In a little higher voice: Uhhh. - I'd love to hear that you managed to sell this material to a first-rate German crime writer. Btw. - Deutsche Bank stock hit an all-time low recently).

    Replies: @Clyde, @Anonymous

    The so called sayanim. Fifth column essentially.

  40. @The Alarmist

    Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when people inside began “firing at attendees of a funeral.”
     
    Sure, pin it on a black car.

    I must say, it was mighty white of them to do the shooting at a funeral home ... makes the cleanup easier.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Percy Gryce

    You mean, a Black vehicle.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Percy Gryce

    You’re right ... I don’t want to accused of being an objectivist.

  41. “It’s ridiculuss all the shooting that’s going on out here, It really has to stop”, she said. Probably just some of those mischievous teens out for some evening shenanigans. I swear, blacks simply have no ability for self or group introspection – how about let’s do a nobody don’t shoot nobody at da next funeral day?

  42. @Colin Wright
    Does it ever occur to anyone to suggest that blacks shouldn't be allowed to have guns?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Percy Gryce, @Known Fact, @Art Deco, @anon, @William Badwhite, @AnotherDad

    Isn’t that Steve’s idea that liberal gun control rhetoric is directed at the NRA and rural whites but its actual target is urban blacks?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Percy Gryce

    No, the target is ordinary people. The whole point of the gun control discourse is to stick the blame for urban crime on rural hobbyists. It's socially and psychologically unacceptable to liberals to actually blame perpetrators. The perps are their clients and pets.

    Look at Nelson Shields III, DuPont executive and founder of the agency now known as the Brady Campaign. He undertook this crusade after his son was shot to death in San Francisco in 1974. Most murders are interpersonal disputes between people well acquainted, or they derive from bar fights, or they occur during robberies or burglaries. Nelson Shields IV was shot at random on the street for no particular reason other than his killer was out for dead white bodies. He was shot in the back while rummaging around in his car trunk and never saw the face of the man who killed him. Nelson Shields III could have processed this crime / tragedy in a half-dozen different ways. He chose the most perverse way: he started a crusade against inanimate objects (and, in doing that, against people like Harlon Carter who defended the people who own them).

    Now look at Sarah Brady, who spent decades plumping for legislation to annoy gun owners in response to an incident in which a friend had carelessly left a loaded gun on the front seat of his pickup truck and her son picked it up and began waving it around. She wasted gobs of time on that crusade and humiliated her disabled husband by using him as a prop. Yes, Sarah Brady was a schoolteacher in her younger years.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  43. Footage of the shootout was recently released to the media:

  44. @Hypnotoad666
    White funerals rarely involve gunfights. Thus, arresting anyone involved with this incident is clearly racist, and probably illegal.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute, @VinnyVette

    White funerals rarely involve gunfights. Thus, arresting anyone involved with this incident is clearly racist

    – FIFY –

    After centuries of White Privilege, gun fire seldom or never breaks out at white funerals. Thus, this incident is clearly the result of White Supremacism.

  45. @Mr McKenna
    I'll go further. The President should refuse to send troops or agents of any kind even if these cities ask for it, which you may be sure they'll do at some point. These are the places which celebrate looting, with 'F tha Police' 'ACAB' and "Defund" everywhere you look, and which insist that the cure for crime is stop prosecuting crime.

    Until the day when a few million protesting white chicks learn that real life isn't actually like Television, or a NYT editorial. But therein lies the problem. Tens of thousands may learn their lessons, but tens of millions imbibe MSM propaganda. Every single day.

    BTW, the Journal ran a good piece yesterday contradicting the 'donor state' mantra that the Dems recite about NY, Calif etc. [I can't tell if it's behind a paywall so LMK if it needs posting in full.] This matters because the Dems are planning (more) colossal rewards for their strongholds after November.

    New York Is No ‘Donor State’
    Cuomo’s claim that the Empire State ‘gives’ more than it ‘gets’ is based on distorted measures.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-is-no-donor-state-11595358729

    The Rockefeller Institute’s “Giving or Getting?” report was published in 2017 and used soon after in a widely publicized Associated Press “fact check.” Since then, the report and its subsequent installments have served as the backbone of countless treatises like Paul Krugman’s sunny “The Moochers of Middle America.”

    It isn’t so simple. A food stamp isn’t the same as a serviceman’s paycheck. The former can reasonably be characterized as a federal subsidy—“a gift” in Mr. Cuomo’s parlance—while the latter cannot. The Rockefeller report treats both as gifts, distorting who gets what.

    Texas is home to nearly 219,000 military personnel, New York 60,000. It’s no surprise federal defense-related expenditures in Texas dwarfed those in New York in 2018, $65 billion to $14 billion. From this the Rockefeller report implies Texas got $51 billion more than New York—for the privilege of defending the whole country.


     

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Ben Kurtz

    Jennifer Levitz of the WSJ says that suburban whites just need to join the BLM movement, and stop being such white supremacists.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-black-lives-matter-sign-stirs-debate-in-a-boston-suburb-11595410200

    WSJ comments are mixed. So although the WSJ is increasingly pozzed, some of its readership is still hanging tough.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/508373-over-280-wall-street-journal-employees-raise-credibility-concerns-about

    WSJ staffers draw the line at letting Heather MacDonald have her say..

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @HammerJack

    I love the comment from the white woman from Easton, MA talking about living in her 90% white bubble. The bubble bursts at the town line, which she probably crossed to find the black man who left the sperm deposit.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brockton,_Massachusetts

    "The racial makeup of the city was 39.85% White, 42.32% African American, 0.29% Native American, 1.65% Asian, 0.06% Pacific Islander, and 3.69% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 12.14% of the population. The African-American population in Brockton has grown significantly since the beginning of the early 2000s.[citation needed] 2013 estimates state Brockton's demographics as 42.8% White, 43.1% African American, 0.4% Native American, 2.0% Asian, 0% Pacific Islander, 10.3% from other races, 3.9% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 7.8% of the population.[22]

    Brockton has one of the largest populations of Cape Verdean ancestry in the United States, with about 9% of its population. [23] Brockton also reportedly has one of the largest communities of Angolans in the United States.[citation needed]"

  46. @Percy Gryce
    @The Alarmist

    You mean, a Black vehicle.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    You’re right … I don’t want to accused of being an objectivist.

  47. Anonymous[504] • Disclaimer says:

    Well, if Trump shows as much commitment to this as to regulating student visas then the cartridge parties should continue well into October.

  48. @Mr McKenna

    Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when people inside began “firing at attendees of a funeral.” Some of those at the funeral returned gunfire with those in the vehicle.
     
    If you could travel back in time, 50 years or more, no one you spoke with would ever believe that funerals would one day be seen as natural places for gunfights. Nowadays you have to have casualties in the double digits to justify headlines. What's the trend here?

    If only someone could figure out how to keep all these guns from going off all the time, or -- barring that -- get guns out of law-abiding hands. Makes sense, right?

    Separately, and more seriously, Trump is an idiot for sending in federal forces to all of these Democrat cities which have made it amply clear that they like the way they're doing things. His political instincts--which many here believe are sterling--are as bad as any president I can remember. He's passing up a golden opportunity to let all of America see where Dem policies lead.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Harry Baldwin, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Alfa158, @Not my Economy, @AnotherDad, @Ed, @Eric Novak

    He’s passing up a golden opportunity to let all of America see where Dem policies lead.

    I think everyone who has eyes to see has already gotten the message that this is where Dem policies lead. For him not to at least try to do something about it would show a failure of leadership. His base, and others who might be swayed in his direction, expect it of him.

    Also, the fact that the local and state Dem politicians are angry that Trump wants to do something about the violence in their cities further demonstrated where Dem policies lead.

    As the MSM plays it, Trump will be damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t, but I think the public is capable of figuring out what’s going on.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @Harry Baldwin

    I asked this question deep in an earlier thread and it got no response, so I'll ask it again.

    Is Steve saying that the, very obvious to him, Ferguson Effect is essentially what happened in the 60's with the courts mandating new policing procedures? If the cops can't "bust heads" in crummy neighborhoods then high crime is the natural result?

    also, tell me, old-timers, what did you really think about the Miranda decision? Maybe it didn't matter in the long run.

  49. @Mr McKenna

    Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when people inside began “firing at attendees of a funeral.” Some of those at the funeral returned gunfire with those in the vehicle.
     
    If you could travel back in time, 50 years or more, no one you spoke with would ever believe that funerals would one day be seen as natural places for gunfights. Nowadays you have to have casualties in the double digits to justify headlines. What's the trend here?

    If only someone could figure out how to keep all these guns from going off all the time, or -- barring that -- get guns out of law-abiding hands. Makes sense, right?

    Separately, and more seriously, Trump is an idiot for sending in federal forces to all of these Democrat cities which have made it amply clear that they like the way they're doing things. His political instincts--which many here believe are sterling--are as bad as any president I can remember. He's passing up a golden opportunity to let all of America see where Dem policies lead.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Harry Baldwin, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Alfa158, @Not my Economy, @AnotherDad, @Ed, @Eric Novak

    Separately, and more seriously, Trump is an idiot for sending in federal forces to all of these Democrat cities which have made it amply clear that they like the way they’re doing things.

    This really does feel like a Clinton-esque triangulation, doesn’t it?

    Pretty sure that people didn’t vote for Trump to be a triangulator.

  50. I still like to know how all these inner city shooters have an endless supply of ammo? No federal agent should be wasted on the cities. The bastions of democrat rule seem like they want their crime. They definitely want their criminals free. Just end section 8 housing programs, and let things work out naturally in the urban areas. By the way, who pays for the hospitalization of these shootings? If it’s the feds, end that as well since the cities don’t want fed help in stopping the crime.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Old and Grumpy

    Old and Grumpy, I posted this before, but the U of Chicago School of Medicine says the average cost of a shooting victim in Chicago is $87,000. So, this little dust up cost Chicago $1.218,000 !

  51. @Hypnotoad666
    White funerals rarely involve gunfights. Thus, arresting anyone involved with this incident is clearly racist, and probably illegal.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute, @VinnyVette

    White funerals rarely involve gunfights. Thus, arresting anyone involved with this incident is clearly racist, and probably illegal.
    Unless it’s the Hatfield’s or McCoys.

  52. It’s seems a foregone conclusion that Biden is going to pick a black woman as his running mate. Is anyone going to point out how bad black women appear to be at governing? I’m sure someone could think of a black woman who was/is successful in the legislative or judicial branch but can anyone come up with black woman who has been successful in the executive branch. I know it’s a small sample size but I look at black women who have served as mayors and they all appear to be failures. The examples I can think of are the recent mayors of Baltimore, Mayor of Atlanta, Mayor of DC, and of course the Mayor of Chicago. Can anyone point to a black woman who has been successful as the head of the executive branch in any city, town, municipality in America? I think, given the circumstances and bar for success, there have been some success stories in African countries and I’m not saying it can’t be or hasn’t been done here in America but I’ll be damned if I can come up with a single example. This said, all these women have done a better job than de Blasio and if push came to shove I’d probably take them over them over Whitmer.

    • Replies: @Gianni in Guernsey
    @Walsh2

    Joe is running with an african-AMERICAN woman in an attempt to meek him look competent. You notice her ruled out Tulsa Gabbard.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Colin Wright

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Walsh2

    Walsh, Atlanta's mayor, Kiesha Lance-Bottoms, is as incompetant as Baltimore's former mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake but with a better hair do. They get their votes from the black community and their campaign financing from the White business men. When their incompetance affects the bottom line they are kicked to the curb. This all ends when the White wives of these business men can't have their Jag convertible because insurance premiums went up 500%.

    , @Anon
    @Walsh2

    Same applies for most white women.

  53. @JohnnyWalker123
    More recent deaths in the news.

    https://twitter.com/LectorShannibal/status/1254198407360581633

    https://twitter.com/forensicnewsnet/status/1175513909538635776

    https://twitter.com/Thomas1774Paine/status/1268884335710679041

    https://twitter.com/KirbySommers/status/1269538274109984768

    https://twitter.com/Agenthades1/status/1278846181137768449

    https://twitter.com/Yoder_Esqq/status/1285453722248716288

    TLDR Summary:

    -Epstein's chef died in his sleep recently.
    -Palm Beach Detective Joseph Recarey (who was the cop who led the Epstein investigation) passed away.
    -Chief Recarey's investigating partner Officer John Mark Dougan recently fled to Russia, out of fear of assassination. Dougan has documents related to the Epstein case, given to him by Recarey for safe keeping.
    -Epstein's private banker was recently found swinging from a rope, before the FBI could question him.
    -Epstein's butler died a few weeks ago.
    -Epstein's architect Ed Tuttle (who designed the buildings on "pedophile island") just died.
    -Hollywood mogul Steve Bing was in the same social circle as Epstein and Clinton. His girlfriend was urging him to "expose Epstein." He recently fell off a building, with the death being declared a "suicide."
    -Judge Salas was investigating the Epstein-Deutsche bank laundering case. An assassin just killed her son and wounded her husband during an ambush at her home. The assassin used to work for Kroll Associates in an "intelligence" role. Kroll is described as a CIA front group that perform intel operations. It hires lots of "former" CIA, FBI, Mossad, IDF, etc.
    -Epstein committed "suicide" last year.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @El Dato, @VinnyVette

    Why does anyone give a rats ass about Jeffery Epstein?

  54. Funeral homes should adopt a “check your guns at the door policy” like the saloons of the old west… black lives matter.

    • Agree: JimDandy
    • Replies: @CCZ
    @VinnyVette

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0ZEmLosVXE

  55. @Harry Baldwin
    @Mr McKenna

    He’s passing up a golden opportunity to let all of America see where Dem policies lead.

    I think everyone who has eyes to see has already gotten the message that this is where Dem policies lead. For him not to at least try to do something about it would show a failure of leadership. His base, and others who might be swayed in his direction, expect it of him.

    Also, the fact that the local and state Dem politicians are angry that Trump wants to do something about the violence in their cities further demonstrated where Dem policies lead.

    As the MSM plays it, Trump will be damned if he does and damned if he doesn't, but I think the public is capable of figuring out what's going on.

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    I asked this question deep in an earlier thread and it got no response, so I’ll ask it again.

    Is Steve saying that the, very obvious to him, Ferguson Effect is essentially what happened in the 60’s with the courts mandating new policing procedures? If the cops can’t “bust heads” in crummy neighborhoods then high crime is the natural result?

    also, tell me, old-timers, what did you really think about the Miranda decision? Maybe it didn’t matter in the long run.

  56. @Argentine American
    Gentile whites — without help from anyone else — have repeatedly shown themselves capable of egalitarian excess. The French Revolution, the Clapham abolitionists, John Brown and his backers, the miscegenist enthusiasms of the Grimke sisters and other radical integrationists are all products of purely gentile delusion. Even if it were possible to prove that Jewish influence derailed what used to be a healthy American racial consciousness, that is a historical question not directly relevant to what we must accomplish now.

    So, there is a need to stop blaming Jews for the failure of Whites.

    Replies: @Jesse, @Hans, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @JSM, @Colin Wright, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Anon

    Don’t love how we got here, but we’re at the right destination! Also, thank you for acknowledging that Jews are, in fact, White. The WN tendency to pretend they aren’t is part of a wider tendency to class as White anyone they like and “otherize” anyone they don’t. They have no inclination to or practise in working with Whites that don’t agree with their moronic “screw equality!” mindset, which is why they’ve achieved nothing. Ever.

    • Replies: @Hans
    @Jesse

    LOL, Jess! Jews are very open about not considering themselves white. When it suits their agenda.

    , @BenKenobi
    @Jesse


    they’ve achieved nothing. Ever.
     
    Except the hijacking of the Republican party and the election of an outsider President against all odds. And now the Deep State has gone into overdrive turning society upside down to keep us from the levers of power or even using the internet to disseminate our message.

    Bit of an overreaction to a bunch of do-nothings, dontcha think?

    PS: Hello, fellow Unz poster.
    , @Abolish_public_education
    @Jesse

    Jews are white (mostly), black, yellow, etc. But Jews instinctively self-identify as being “Jewish” (rather than White, Polish, Israeli, or what not).

    Jews compose a nation (tribe) whose membership therein is ascertained by whether the individual in question is Jewish (according to Jewish law).

    Whether ‘Jewish’ is a race or a religion is a question, as Prager likes to say, designed to confuse two groups: Jews and non-Jews.

  57. @Argentine American
    Gentile whites — without help from anyone else — have repeatedly shown themselves capable of egalitarian excess. The French Revolution, the Clapham abolitionists, John Brown and his backers, the miscegenist enthusiasms of the Grimke sisters and other radical integrationists are all products of purely gentile delusion. Even if it were possible to prove that Jewish influence derailed what used to be a healthy American racial consciousness, that is a historical question not directly relevant to what we must accomplish now.

    So, there is a need to stop blaming Jews for the failure of Whites.

    Replies: @Jesse, @Hans, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @JSM, @Colin Wright, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Anon

    Except there are large numbers of people who still do not understand why “their” systems consistently fail and work against their own interests. Education is always essential.

    Nesta Webster did a very good work on the “French” Revolution – https://archive.org/details/NestaHWebsterTheFrenchRevolution

    Churchill praised her work (in this once very easy-to-find article), “This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus–Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognisable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.” – https://archive.org/details/ZionismVsBolshevismByWinstonChurchill

    Solzenitsyn said pretty much the same thing in his final book, 200 Years Together, what you can’t read in English for some odd reason.

    • Thanks: El Dato
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Hans

    Fullus Textus of 1920 here:

    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism


    Duty of Loyal Jews.

    It is particularly important in these circumstances that the national Jews in every country who are loyal to the land of their adoption should come forward on every occasion, as many of them in England have already done, and take a prominent part in every measure for combating the Bolshevik conspiracy. In this way they will be able to vindicate the honour of the Jewish name and make it clear to all the world that the Bolshevik movement is not a Jewish movement, but is repudiated vehemently by the great mass of the Jewish race.

    But a negative resistance to Bolshevism in any field is not enough. Positive and practicable alternatives are needed in the moral as well as in the social sphere; and in building up with the utmost possible rapidity a Jewish national centre in Palestine which may become not only a refuge to the oppressed from the unhappy lands of Central Europe, but which will also be a symbol of Jewish unity and the temple of Jewish glory, a task is presented on which many blessings rest.
     

    Replies: @Hans

  58. @Mr McKenna

    Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when people inside began “firing at attendees of a funeral.” Some of those at the funeral returned gunfire with those in the vehicle.
     
    If you could travel back in time, 50 years or more, no one you spoke with would ever believe that funerals would one day be seen as natural places for gunfights. Nowadays you have to have casualties in the double digits to justify headlines. What's the trend here?

    If only someone could figure out how to keep all these guns from going off all the time, or -- barring that -- get guns out of law-abiding hands. Makes sense, right?

    Separately, and more seriously, Trump is an idiot for sending in federal forces to all of these Democrat cities which have made it amply clear that they like the way they're doing things. His political instincts--which many here believe are sterling--are as bad as any president I can remember. He's passing up a golden opportunity to let all of America see where Dem policies lead.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Harry Baldwin, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Alfa158, @Not my Economy, @AnotherDad, @Ed, @Eric Novak

    I hope at least that all the shooters and victims were wearing masks.

  59. In honor of Chicago’s Mayor Lightbulb, the Trayvon Hoax film is available for free viewing at https://www.thetrayvonhoax.com/

    Quite and amazing tale of hoaxing and judicial malfeasance plus more on hair weaves, Miami, and urban slang than you probably ever wanted to know.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Hans

    Hans, the people who need to watch the video aren't at this site. And if those people watched it, they wouldn't believe it. American riot culture is all about tee shirt slogans..."I can't breathe",,,"Hands up, don't shoot."

  60. @Mr McKenna

    Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when people inside began “firing at attendees of a funeral.” Some of those at the funeral returned gunfire with those in the vehicle.
     
    If you could travel back in time, 50 years or more, no one you spoke with would ever believe that funerals would one day be seen as natural places for gunfights. Nowadays you have to have casualties in the double digits to justify headlines. What's the trend here?

    If only someone could figure out how to keep all these guns from going off all the time, or -- barring that -- get guns out of law-abiding hands. Makes sense, right?

    Separately, and more seriously, Trump is an idiot for sending in federal forces to all of these Democrat cities which have made it amply clear that they like the way they're doing things. His political instincts--which many here believe are sterling--are as bad as any president I can remember. He's passing up a golden opportunity to let all of America see where Dem policies lead.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Harry Baldwin, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Alfa158, @Not my Economy, @AnotherDad, @Ed, @Eric Novak

    Separately, and more seriously, Trump is an idiot for sending in federal forces to all of these Democrat cities which have made it amply clear that they like the way they’re doing things. His political instincts–which many here believe are sterling–are as bad as any president I can remember. He’s passing up a golden opportunity to let all of America see where Dem policies lead.

    I agree. Democrats voted for these governments, voted for these policies. That’s what federalism is for. The feds should stay out of it, especially if the response is to send in unmarked police in military uniforms to throw people into unmarked vans (which is why a lot of us never wanted a DHS in the first place).

    But then Trump really is an idiot.

    • Replies: @petit bourgeois
    @Mr. Anon

    The feds are protecting a federal courthouse in Portland that has been under seige for 53 nights in a row. Marxists and black bloc anarchists have been trying to burn down that building which is the foundation of the dispensation of justice in Oregon.

    It's a freaking United States courthouse the "secret police" are protecting. The statute Congress wrote allows the "stormtroopers" to enforce the law and protect my tax dollars. The red diaper babies and aggrieved negroes are trying to destroy America one urban center at a time. Get a grip, comrade.

    And shame on you and your ad hominem comment towards the bad orange man. You're not a billionaire real estate developer, so your opinion is meaningless.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  61. @Mr McKenna
    I'll go further. The President should refuse to send troops or agents of any kind even if these cities ask for it, which you may be sure they'll do at some point. These are the places which celebrate looting, with 'F tha Police' 'ACAB' and "Defund" everywhere you look, and which insist that the cure for crime is stop prosecuting crime.

    Until the day when a few million protesting white chicks learn that real life isn't actually like Television, or a NYT editorial. But therein lies the problem. Tens of thousands may learn their lessons, but tens of millions imbibe MSM propaganda. Every single day.

    BTW, the Journal ran a good piece yesterday contradicting the 'donor state' mantra that the Dems recite about NY, Calif etc. [I can't tell if it's behind a paywall so LMK if it needs posting in full.] This matters because the Dems are planning (more) colossal rewards for their strongholds after November.

    New York Is No ‘Donor State’
    Cuomo’s claim that the Empire State ‘gives’ more than it ‘gets’ is based on distorted measures.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-is-no-donor-state-11595358729

    The Rockefeller Institute’s “Giving or Getting?” report was published in 2017 and used soon after in a widely publicized Associated Press “fact check.” Since then, the report and its subsequent installments have served as the backbone of countless treatises like Paul Krugman’s sunny “The Moochers of Middle America.”

    It isn’t so simple. A food stamp isn’t the same as a serviceman’s paycheck. The former can reasonably be characterized as a federal subsidy—“a gift” in Mr. Cuomo’s parlance—while the latter cannot. The Rockefeller report treats both as gifts, distorting who gets what.

    Texas is home to nearly 219,000 military personnel, New York 60,000. It’s no surprise federal defense-related expenditures in Texas dwarfed those in New York in 2018, $65 billion to $14 billion. From this the Rockefeller report implies Texas got $51 billion more than New York—for the privilege of defending the whole country.


     

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Ben Kurtz

    Liberals lie and conservatives oversimplify.

    Certain government spending — e.g. military — indeed benefits the whole country. Yet when the question arises as to where, geographically, to locate that spending, local interests often see it is a boon to get the spending done in their neighborhood. So there is a pork barrel element as well.

    This has been true since the beginning of the Republic — the original six Constitution-class frigates were built in six different shipyards to spread the spending around, even though economies of scale were lost — and it continues to this very day. Some military facilities are located in certain places out of sheer necessity (I can’t imagine White Sands missile range anywhere other than in the remotest desert southwest), but plenty of it could be here or it could be there based on historical accident and political pull.

    And then there is the second-order private industry stuff — how many high-tech contractors in Massachusetts and California make good money for their local areas off government and military contracts? Lots! Yet that creates another layer of accounting headache.

    The Rockefeller Institute must knowingly be publishing meaningless propaganda, but getting at anything resembling a true and fair answer to this sort of question is fraught beyond measure.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    @Ben Kurtz


    Certain government spending — e.g. military — indeed benefits the whole country.
     
    We still need to bring all our troops home, replace the army with a citizen's militia, and cut the current military budget by at least half.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

    , @petit bourgeois
    @Ben Kurtz

    It's the same in Nigeria. The oil has to be refined in several different refineries instead of one, to appease the ethnic factions and hold the country together.

    Building three refineries instead of one has social costs. Tax dollars going to a permanent underclass (black and brown) since 1965 isn't helping us either.

  62. @Charles St. Charles

    Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when people inside began “firing at attendees of a funeral.”
     
    Interesting how “black” can be an important identifying adjective when applied to “vehicles”, but not to other nouns or persons...

    The [black] shooting happened in the 1000 block of West 79th Street; 1 [black] person of interest is being questioned.
    By Frank Main, Carly Behm, Sam Charles, and Emmanuel Camarillo Updated Jul 21, 2020,

    Fourteen [black] people were shot Tuesday evening outside a funeral home in Gresham on the South Side — the largest number of [black] victims in a single Chicago [black] shooting in recent memory. ….

    Chicago fire officials said they were listed in conditions ranging from serious to critical. …

    Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when [black] people inside began “firing at [black] attendees of a [black] funeral.” Some of those [blacks] at the funeral returned gunfire with those [blacks] in the vehicle. The [black] driver then turned north onto Carpenter, while at least one [black] person in the vehicle continued to shoot at the [black] funeralgoers. The [black] driver soon crashed in the 7800 block of South Carpenter. Those [blacks] inside the vehicle ran off in different directions, though one [black] “person of interest” was taken into custody and was being questioned by detectives Tuesday night, Carter said.

    Sources said the funeral was for Donnie Weathersby, 31, who was shot and killed last week in the 7400 block of South Stewart — about a mile and half northeast of where Tuesday’s [black] shooting occurred.

    … Arnita Geder and Kenneth Hughes, [black], said they were in their home watching TV when they heard gunshots. “We went out in the street and all we saw was [black] bodies just laying everywhere,” Geder said. “They were shot up everywhere.” “We thought it was a [black] war out here. It’s ridiculous all the [black] shooting that’s going on out here, it really has to stop,” she said. …

    Tuesday’s [black] mass shooting is among the bloodiest single incidents of [black] violence in modern Chicago [black] history – leaving a tally more akin to a battleground in Afghanistan or Iraq than a [black] city street. …

    Tuesday’s [black] mass shooting comes just one day after President Donald Trump told reporters in the Oval Office that he was looking at sending federal agents to Chicago and other cities to combat [black] crime. “We’re not going to let this happen in our country. All run by liberal Democrats,” the president said Monday.

    That prompted [black] Mayor Lori Lightfoot to say, “We don’t need federal agents without any insignia taking [black] people off the streets, I think, unlawfully.”

    Trump has repeatedly bashed Chicago as an example of big [black] cities unable to contain [black] surges of [black] violence this year. [black] Murders in Chicago are up almost 50% compared with the same period of 2019. And on May 31, [black] Chicago suffered the single deadliest day in six decades, with 18 [black] murders. As [black] violence has risen in recent months, police activity has fallen, with [black] arrests, traffic stops and street stops far below 2019 levels, a Chicago Sun-Times analysis found.
     

    Replies: @Rob Lee, @Buck Ransom

    *sigh*

    Not to be that guy, Charles St. Charles, but you didn’t capitalize ANY of those ‘blacks’…

  63. Of course it’s political. They started the funeral with only one sure Democrat voter. Now they’ve got potentially 15.

    • LOL: Gary in Gramercy
  64. @Lot
    “ Some of those at the funeral returned gunfire“

    A promising beginning to a sentence.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Eh, at this point it’s more like “It was a dark and stormy night”.

  65. Duckduckgo is more honest, less censorious, less politicized & all in all a million times more efficient & accurate than *oogle

  66. @Rob McX
    Fourteen shot and nobody dead. The undertaker must be disappointed at the failure of funerals to self-replicate.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Grahamsno(G64)

    Hard to aim when you’re properly masked and maintaining social distance

  67. @Colin Wright
    Does it ever occur to anyone to suggest that blacks shouldn't be allowed to have guns?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Percy Gryce, @Known Fact, @Art Deco, @anon, @William Badwhite, @AnotherDad

    “Stop and Frisk” was designed to at least get them to leave the gun at home once in a while, but we’ll never see that policing strategy again

  68. @Argentine American
    Gentile whites — without help from anyone else — have repeatedly shown themselves capable of egalitarian excess. The French Revolution, the Clapham abolitionists, John Brown and his backers, the miscegenist enthusiasms of the Grimke sisters and other radical integrationists are all products of purely gentile delusion. Even if it were possible to prove that Jewish influence derailed what used to be a healthy American racial consciousness, that is a historical question not directly relevant to what we must accomplish now.

    So, there is a need to stop blaming Jews for the failure of Whites.

    Replies: @Jesse, @Hans, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @JSM, @Colin Wright, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Anon

    Argentina is the most Jewish country in the hemisphere other than the US, yet has avoided much of the worst of this. Is it the occasional military interlude in government? The balance brought by National Socialist refugees? A heightened sense of the Anglophobia common to all Hispanic countries? (Lusophone Brazil doesn’t suffer from this.)

    Just fewer immigrants? All those Italians?

    No legacy of melanomania slavery?

    • Replies: @OP
    @Reg Cæsar

    Argentina is getting attacked in its own way. There is lots of immigration, toxic feminism, an emphasis on multiculturalism, and the media promotion of further mixing.

  69. @Mr McKenna

    Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when people inside began “firing at attendees of a funeral.” Some of those at the funeral returned gunfire with those in the vehicle.
     
    If you could travel back in time, 50 years or more, no one you spoke with would ever believe that funerals would one day be seen as natural places for gunfights. Nowadays you have to have casualties in the double digits to justify headlines. What's the trend here?

    If only someone could figure out how to keep all these guns from going off all the time, or -- barring that -- get guns out of law-abiding hands. Makes sense, right?

    Separately, and more seriously, Trump is an idiot for sending in federal forces to all of these Democrat cities which have made it amply clear that they like the way they're doing things. His political instincts--which many here believe are sterling--are as bad as any president I can remember. He's passing up a golden opportunity to let all of America see where Dem policies lead.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Harry Baldwin, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Alfa158, @Not my Economy, @AnotherDad, @Ed, @Eric Novak

    If you could traveled back in time, 50 years or more, and spoke to anyone who had spent time in Africa, they would believe that shootouts at funerals would one day occur.

    Black Chicagoans are only returning to their roots. Their homicide rates reflect those you find in Africa.

    • Replies: @CCZ
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    "Black Chicagoans are only returning to their roots. Their homicide rates reflect those you find in Africa."

    Not quite yet. Chiraq black shooters still not quite equal to their brothers and sisters in Wakanda.

    Gunmen Kill 18 Wedding Guests in Northern Nigeria

    https://www.thedefensepost.com/2020/07/21/gunmen-wedding-nigeria/

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    Kolya, Ireland, in the time of "The Troubles" had bombings and shootings of civilians and at least one grenade attack at a funeral.

  70. @Colin Wright
    Does it ever occur to anyone to suggest that blacks shouldn't be allowed to have guns?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Percy Gryce, @Known Fact, @Art Deco, @anon, @William Badwhite, @AnotherDad

    Why should ordinary people who own guns to hunt, own guns for target shooting, or own guns for personal protection be denied that right if they have not been stripped of it per due process?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Art Deco

    'Why should ordinary people who own guns to hunt, own guns for target shooting, or own guns for personal protection be denied that right if they have not been stripped of it per due process?'

    I never said they should. I proposed that blacks should be stripped of that right.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @anon

  71. @Mr McKenna

    Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when people inside began “firing at attendees of a funeral.” Some of those at the funeral returned gunfire with those in the vehicle.
     
    If you could travel back in time, 50 years or more, no one you spoke with would ever believe that funerals would one day be seen as natural places for gunfights. Nowadays you have to have casualties in the double digits to justify headlines. What's the trend here?

    If only someone could figure out how to keep all these guns from going off all the time, or -- barring that -- get guns out of law-abiding hands. Makes sense, right?

    Separately, and more seriously, Trump is an idiot for sending in federal forces to all of these Democrat cities which have made it amply clear that they like the way they're doing things. His political instincts--which many here believe are sterling--are as bad as any president I can remember. He's passing up a golden opportunity to let all of America see where Dem policies lead.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Harry Baldwin, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Alfa158, @Not my Economy, @AnotherDad, @Ed, @Eric Novak

    I thought the officers were being sent in to defend Federal facilities such as courthouses, law enforcement bureaus, offices etc. That seems to clearly be the case in Portland where the buildings are literally under siege. I’m not aware of places where the officers are trying to generally enforce law and order on the streets.

    • Thanks: Mr McKenna
  72. @Percy Gryce
    @Colin Wright

    Isn't that Steve's idea that liberal gun control rhetoric is directed at the NRA and rural whites but its actual target is urban blacks?

    Replies: @Art Deco

    No, the target is ordinary people. The whole point of the gun control discourse is to stick the blame for urban crime on rural hobbyists. It’s socially and psychologically unacceptable to liberals to actually blame perpetrators. The perps are their clients and pets.

    Look at Nelson Shields III, DuPont executive and founder of the agency now known as the Brady Campaign. He undertook this crusade after his son was shot to death in San Francisco in 1974. Most murders are interpersonal disputes between people well acquainted, or they derive from bar fights, or they occur during robberies or burglaries. Nelson Shields IV was shot at random on the street for no particular reason other than his killer was out for dead white bodies. He was shot in the back while rummaging around in his car trunk and never saw the face of the man who killed him. Nelson Shields III could have processed this crime / tragedy in a half-dozen different ways. He chose the most perverse way: he started a crusade against inanimate objects (and, in doing that, against people like Harlon Carter who defended the people who own them).

    Now look at Sarah Brady, who spent decades plumping for legislation to annoy gun owners in response to an incident in which a friend had carelessly left a loaded gun on the front seat of his pickup truck and her son picked it up and began waving it around. She wasted gobs of time on that crusade and humiliated her disabled husband by using him as a prop. Yes, Sarah Brady was a schoolteacher in her younger years.

    • Agree: El Dato
    • Thanks: Buffalo Joe
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Art Deco

    'No, the target is ordinary people. The whole point of the gun control discourse is to stick the blame for urban crime on rural hobbyists...'

    Indeed. I went to the local gun show last year.

    There was enough weaponry there to outfit a decent infantry battalion -- literally.

    Yet last year -- in a county with one hundred thousand inhabitants -- we had zero homicides. Zip. Nada.

  73. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    This is the Chicago feel good story of the week.

    Guy was being targeted as a blood sacrifice for the Illuminati but he wasnt goin down like that…

    https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/man-fatally-shoots-moms-boyfriend-out-of-fear-he-was-being-targeted-as-blood-sacrifice

    • LOL: Rob McX
  74. Driving away at high speed and crashing the getaway car is the best way to do the triple “A” (Avoid Attracting Attention). Running from the crash in different directions will also help.

  75. The real threat is them Boogaloo boys tho.

    And it was 15.

  76. Can we finally admit that we have a serious “cancer condition” in our once great country?

  77. @Colin Wright
    Does it ever occur to anyone to suggest that blacks shouldn't be allowed to have guns?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Percy Gryce, @Known Fact, @Art Deco, @anon, @William Badwhite, @AnotherDad

    Does it ever occur to anyone to suggest that blacks shouldn’t be allowed to have guns?

    Yeah, but those laws were overturned because “equal protection”.

  78. @Rob McX
    Fourteen shot and nobody dead. The undertaker must be disappointed at the failure of funerals to self-replicate.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Grahamsno(G64)

    Winos and dopers have shaky hands, that’s the fundamental reason for such poor marksmanship from this community of exuberant shooters.

  79. @Change that Matters
    Former Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel's brother advocates death by 75. Surely this funeral shootout is just some of Chicago's finest and exuberant citizens putting this inevitable policy into practice. They're just a few years ahead of the curve.

    Replies: @Buck Ransom

    What is the age of Rahm Emanuel’s brother?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Buck Ransom

    In a previous life, "Zeke" was a reality TV star in the early 1980s, featuring in the BBC's 'Now Get Out Of That" survivalist game show.
    Perhaps best remembered for his hysteric excitability.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Change that Matters
    @Buck Ransom

    Ezekiel Emanuel was born 06 September 1957 (i.e., 62-year-old).

    Yet another Chicago Jew on a mission.

  80. @Mr McKenna

    Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when people inside began “firing at attendees of a funeral.” Some of those at the funeral returned gunfire with those in the vehicle.
     
    If you could travel back in time, 50 years or more, no one you spoke with would ever believe that funerals would one day be seen as natural places for gunfights. Nowadays you have to have casualties in the double digits to justify headlines. What's the trend here?

    If only someone could figure out how to keep all these guns from going off all the time, or -- barring that -- get guns out of law-abiding hands. Makes sense, right?

    Separately, and more seriously, Trump is an idiot for sending in federal forces to all of these Democrat cities which have made it amply clear that they like the way they're doing things. His political instincts--which many here believe are sterling--are as bad as any president I can remember. He's passing up a golden opportunity to let all of America see where Dem policies lead.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Harry Baldwin, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Alfa158, @Not my Economy, @AnotherDad, @Ed, @Eric Novak

    If you could travel back in time, 50 years or more, no one you spoke with would ever believe that funerals would one day be seen as natural places for gunfights.

    50 years ago in America, okay. But still if you specified that it was a funeral for a guy in a gang, they’d get it right away.

    100, 150, 250, 500 years ago…A funeral is an obvious target for violence, a whole lot of the enemy tribe all in one place.

    Weddings also historically violent, we all know the story: the best man was the bodyguard in charge to prevent kidnapping of the bride.

    1950s America was a height of human achievement but it was not TRVDITION. Also ever notice how “50 years ago” mentally equates to 1955, rather than 1970?

  81. @Charles St. Charles

    Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when people inside began “firing at attendees of a funeral.”
     
    Interesting how “black” can be an important identifying adjective when applied to “vehicles”, but not to other nouns or persons...

    The [black] shooting happened in the 1000 block of West 79th Street; 1 [black] person of interest is being questioned.
    By Frank Main, Carly Behm, Sam Charles, and Emmanuel Camarillo Updated Jul 21, 2020,

    Fourteen [black] people were shot Tuesday evening outside a funeral home in Gresham on the South Side — the largest number of [black] victims in a single Chicago [black] shooting in recent memory. ….

    Chicago fire officials said they were listed in conditions ranging from serious to critical. …

    Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when [black] people inside began “firing at [black] attendees of a [black] funeral.” Some of those [blacks] at the funeral returned gunfire with those [blacks] in the vehicle. The [black] driver then turned north onto Carpenter, while at least one [black] person in the vehicle continued to shoot at the [black] funeralgoers. The [black] driver soon crashed in the 7800 block of South Carpenter. Those [blacks] inside the vehicle ran off in different directions, though one [black] “person of interest” was taken into custody and was being questioned by detectives Tuesday night, Carter said.

    Sources said the funeral was for Donnie Weathersby, 31, who was shot and killed last week in the 7400 block of South Stewart — about a mile and half northeast of where Tuesday’s [black] shooting occurred.

    … Arnita Geder and Kenneth Hughes, [black], said they were in their home watching TV when they heard gunshots. “We went out in the street and all we saw was [black] bodies just laying everywhere,” Geder said. “They were shot up everywhere.” “We thought it was a [black] war out here. It’s ridiculous all the [black] shooting that’s going on out here, it really has to stop,” she said. …

    Tuesday’s [black] mass shooting is among the bloodiest single incidents of [black] violence in modern Chicago [black] history – leaving a tally more akin to a battleground in Afghanistan or Iraq than a [black] city street. …

    Tuesday’s [black] mass shooting comes just one day after President Donald Trump told reporters in the Oval Office that he was looking at sending federal agents to Chicago and other cities to combat [black] crime. “We’re not going to let this happen in our country. All run by liberal Democrats,” the president said Monday.

    That prompted [black] Mayor Lori Lightfoot to say, “We don’t need federal agents without any insignia taking [black] people off the streets, I think, unlawfully.”

    Trump has repeatedly bashed Chicago as an example of big [black] cities unable to contain [black] surges of [black] violence this year. [black] Murders in Chicago are up almost 50% compared with the same period of 2019. And on May 31, [black] Chicago suffered the single deadliest day in six decades, with 18 [black] murders. As [black] violence has risen in recent months, police activity has fallen, with [black] arrests, traffic stops and street stops far below 2019 levels, a Chicago Sun-Times analysis found.
     

    Replies: @Rob Lee, @Buck Ransom

    It is a sign of shameful institutional racism at the Chicago Sun-Times that the car was not identified as “a Black vehicle.”

  82. @Art Deco
    @Colin Wright

    Why should ordinary people who own guns to hunt, own guns for target shooting, or own guns for personal protection be denied that right if they have not been stripped of it per due process?

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Why should ordinary people who own guns to hunt, own guns for target shooting, or own guns for personal protection be denied that right if they have not been stripped of it per due process?’

    I never said they should. I proposed that blacks should be stripped of that right.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Colin Wright

    I never said they should. I proposed that blacks should be stripped of that right.

    I'm sure you fancied that was clever.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @anon
    @Colin Wright

    I never said they should. I proposed that blacks should be stripped of that right.

    Just shows you are living in some imaginary world inside your head. Too lazy to look up the history of RKBA, too.

    Lazy fantasists are pretty common in most comment sections, especially now.. Are you a Boomer, too?

  83. @Colin Wright
    Does it ever occur to anyone to suggest that blacks shouldn't be allowed to have guns?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Percy Gryce, @Known Fact, @Art Deco, @anon, @William Badwhite, @AnotherDad

    Does it ever occur to anyone to suggest that blacks shouldn’t be allowed to have guns?

    These particular blacks, being in Chicago, are not allowed to have guns already.

    The leftist idea that making guns illegal is going to restrain people that do whatever they want regardless of laws, including shooting other people (which I presume is also illegal), has never been adequately explained.

  84. @Argentine American
    Gentile whites — without help from anyone else — have repeatedly shown themselves capable of egalitarian excess. The French Revolution, the Clapham abolitionists, John Brown and his backers, the miscegenist enthusiasms of the Grimke sisters and other radical integrationists are all products of purely gentile delusion. Even if it were possible to prove that Jewish influence derailed what used to be a healthy American racial consciousness, that is a historical question not directly relevant to what we must accomplish now.

    So, there is a need to stop blaming Jews for the failure of Whites.

    Replies: @Jesse, @Hans, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @JSM, @Colin Wright, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Anon

    What a very interesting unprovoked outburst. Your criminal paranoia is unjustified, though: this is Trump cracking down on the golem, and he would never touch the man who wrote in their forehead.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  85. @Reg Cæsar
    @Argentine American

    Argentina is the most Jewish country in the hemisphere other than the US, yet has avoided much of the worst of this. Is it the occasional military interlude in government? The balance brought by National Socialist refugees? A heightened sense of the Anglophobia common to all Hispanic countries? (Lusophone Brazil doesn't suffer from this.)

    Just fewer immigrants? All those Italians?

    No legacy of melanomania slavery?

    Replies: @OP

    Argentina is getting attacked in its own way. There is lots of immigration, toxic feminism, an emphasis on multiculturalism, and the media promotion of further mixing.

  86. @Redneck farmer
    Do we know the rap sheet of any of the victims?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Possumman

    Red, Buffalo’s City Grille massacre involved eight shot, five (eventually) dead. The Buffalo News’ editor, Margaret Sullivan, was slammed by the black community for noting that 7 of the 8 victims were former felons. Not like shooting up a Day Care center, but that could be next.

  87. @Ben Kurtz
    @Mr McKenna

    Liberals lie and conservatives oversimplify.

    Certain government spending -- e.g. military -- indeed benefits the whole country. Yet when the question arises as to where, geographically, to locate that spending, local interests often see it is a boon to get the spending done in their neighborhood. So there is a pork barrel element as well.

    This has been true since the beginning of the Republic -- the original six Constitution-class frigates were built in six different shipyards to spread the spending around, even though economies of scale were lost -- and it continues to this very day. Some military facilities are located in certain places out of sheer necessity (I can't imagine White Sands missile range anywhere other than in the remotest desert southwest), but plenty of it could be here or it could be there based on historical accident and political pull.

    And then there is the second-order private industry stuff -- how many high-tech contractors in Massachusetts and California make good money for their local areas off government and military contracts? Lots! Yet that creates another layer of accounting headache.

    The Rockefeller Institute must knowingly be publishing meaningless propaganda, but getting at anything resembling a true and fair answer to this sort of question is fraught beyond measure.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory, @petit bourgeois

    Certain government spending — e.g. military — indeed benefits the whole country.

    We still need to bring all our troops home, replace the army with a citizen’s militia, and cut the current military budget by at least half.

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    @Chris Mallory

    Military (i.e. gov) spending is *waste*. Its “benefits” accrue to the M-I complex. Cut gov spending (including mil) by at least 95%.

    The local militia has always existed. In response to some sort of armed invasion (from Mars?), it was to be nationalized and called into duty as the US armed forces.

    The permanent, US military — dispatched to the four corners of the earth whenever the president feels like it! — is all wrong.

  88. It’s funny to hear Trump threaten (i.e. without receiving an official request from a governor) to send in federal “agents”.

    “IRS! Drop the Uzi!”

  89. @Argentine American
    Gentile whites — without help from anyone else — have repeatedly shown themselves capable of egalitarian excess. The French Revolution, the Clapham abolitionists, John Brown and his backers, the miscegenist enthusiasms of the Grimke sisters and other radical integrationists are all products of purely gentile delusion. Even if it were possible to prove that Jewish influence derailed what used to be a healthy American racial consciousness, that is a historical question not directly relevant to what we must accomplish now.

    So, there is a need to stop blaming Jews for the failure of Whites.

    Replies: @Jesse, @Hans, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @JSM, @Colin Wright, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Anon

    There is NO need to stop blaming Jews, cuz they’re in on it. And they don’t receive anywhere near enough heat for the size of their contribution.

  90. If this keeps up, it will be as dangerous attending a Black funeral as taking the kids to Chuck E. Cheese.

  91. But no gun control please. Not even a hint of it. Because reasons.

    • Replies: @bruce county
    @obwandiyag

    We need negro control you idiot. Take the guns from the negros and America will be 99% safer.

    Replies: @Charles St. Charles

    , @anon
    @obwandiyag

    https://mindsquirrel.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/shortbus_styrofoam_lick.jpg

  92. @Jesse
    @Argentine American

    Don't love how we got here, but we're at the right destination! Also, thank you for acknowledging that Jews are, in fact, White. The WN tendency to pretend they aren't is part of a wider tendency to class as White anyone they like and "otherize" anyone they don't. They have no inclination to or practise in working with Whites that don't agree with their moronic "screw equality!" mindset, which is why they've achieved nothing. Ever.

    Replies: @Hans, @BenKenobi, @Abolish_public_education

    LOL, Jess! Jews are very open about not considering themselves white. When it suits their agenda.

  93. @Jesse
    @Argentine American

    Don't love how we got here, but we're at the right destination! Also, thank you for acknowledging that Jews are, in fact, White. The WN tendency to pretend they aren't is part of a wider tendency to class as White anyone they like and "otherize" anyone they don't. They have no inclination to or practise in working with Whites that don't agree with their moronic "screw equality!" mindset, which is why they've achieved nothing. Ever.

    Replies: @Hans, @BenKenobi, @Abolish_public_education

    they’ve achieved nothing. Ever.

    Except the hijacking of the Republican party and the election of an outsider President against all odds. And now the Deep State has gone into overdrive turning society upside down to keep us from the levers of power or even using the internet to disseminate our message.

    Bit of an overreaction to a bunch of do-nothings, dontcha think?

    PS: Hello, fellow Unz poster.

  94. Anonymous[231] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buck Ransom
    @Change that Matters

    What is the age of Rahm Emanuel's brother?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Change that Matters

    In a previous life, “Zeke” was a reality TV star in the early 1980s, featuring in the BBC’s ‘Now Get Out Of That” survivalist game show.
    Perhaps best remembered for his hysteric excitability.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Oh, and to the shock and horror of the other contestants he unhesitatingly and gleefully killed a pet rabbit for lunch using a penknife.

  95. Anonymous[231] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @Buck Ransom

    In a previous life, "Zeke" was a reality TV star in the early 1980s, featuring in the BBC's 'Now Get Out Of That" survivalist game show.
    Perhaps best remembered for his hysteric excitability.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Oh, and to the shock and horror of the other contestants he unhesitatingly and gleefully killed a pet rabbit for lunch using a penknife.

  96. @Kolya Krassotkin
    @Mr McKenna

    If you could traveled back in time, 50 years or more, and spoke to anyone who had spent time in Africa, they would believe that shootouts at funerals would one day occur.

    Black Chicagoans are only returning to their roots. Their homicide rates reflect those you find in Africa.

    Replies: @CCZ, @Buffalo Joe

    “Black Chicagoans are only returning to their roots. Their homicide rates reflect those you find in Africa.”

    Not quite yet. Chiraq black shooters still not quite equal to their brothers and sisters in Wakanda.

    Gunmen Kill 18 Wedding Guests in Northern Nigeria

    https://www.thedefensepost.com/2020/07/21/gunmen-wedding-nigeria/

  97. A huge white supremacist mofo tried to make off with the deceased. Police in attendance tried to stop him. Bruddas were cut down in the crossfire. Here is actual footage of what happened:

  98. I have no proof, but I’m pretty sure the real reason that the press and politicians are losing their shit over these federal task forces is that they are actually decapitation strikes against the agitators and organizers.

    They swoop in, collect the ringleaders who are directing the mob, and then let the mob run around like a very violent headless chicken, often hitting targets of no strategic value or even of strategic value to the Democrats.

    But, like I said, no proof. Proving it would require the NGOs to acknowledge their real purpose and identify their shock-troop captains, and that’s never going to happen. We can only observe that after the feds step in, the mob becomes mysteriously disorganized and eventually disperses.

    If you watch some videos of these “abductions”, what should register every time is the utter shock and horror on the faces and in the voices of the people being taken away. They assumed they would be protected.

    • Replies: @bruce county
    @Michael S


    If you watch some videos of these “abductions”, what should register every time is the utter shock and horror on the faces and in the voices of the people being taken away. They assumed they would be protected.
     
    But god damn it's fun to watch.
    Mommy!! Daddy!!! Please!!! The Einsatzgruppen has taken me.
    , @Anonymous
    @Michael S

    I'm still curious to know who ordered that mob to the home of the mayor of Seattle. That seems to have been the trigger for all this. It must have spooked some powerful people.

    It reminds me of how the Salem witch hysteria was quickly shut down after someone accused the wife of the governor.

  99. @Clifford Brown
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FVuEfA5QVY

    Replies: @Diversity Heretic, @AnotherDad

    I don’t even like listening to that–“go away” is the neural signal generated.

    And i quite enjoy the music–of quite a number of varieties–used for TV show intros. I was just thinking about this last night. Much of it is quite catchy.

    I think in my old age, i’m really quite tired of the pushy, noisy, nature of “black” stuff.

  100. @Colin Wright
    @Dieter Kief

    'It sure has – not least to black people. Maybe they should speak out more loudly. But what if it then occurred, that in order to get this fixed, guns had to be taken away from all others too. Like in Japan, say. – How would the economy answer such a decline in funeral accessories and stuff, to channel P. J. O’Rourke here? – Tough.'

    I don't see why guns need to be taken away from other people to take them away from blacks.

    We don't let children drive. That doesn't imply we have to prevent you from driving.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    You’re right, of course. I had not been thinking about you, or people like you, but of the social dynamic which might result in the idea to take guns away from blacks might end up in. – Highly speculative, I admit.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Dieter Kief

    'You’re right, of course. I had not been thinking about you, or people like you, but of the social dynamic which might result in the idea to take guns away from blacks might end up in. – Highly speculative, I admit.'

    That's only a problem if we persist in the delusion that blacks are like other people, and should be treated as if they are.

    We don't let dogs run around unleashed. No one's ever fretted that this means we could decide to leash people as well.

  101. @Dieter Kief
    @Colin Wright

    You're right, of course. I had not been thinking about you, or people like you, but of the social dynamic which might result in the idea to take guns away from blacks might end up in. - Highly speculative, I admit.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘You’re right, of course. I had not been thinking about you, or people like you, but of the social dynamic which might result in the idea to take guns away from blacks might end up in. – Highly speculative, I admit.’

    That’s only a problem if we persist in the delusion that blacks are like other people, and should be treated as if they are.

    We don’t let dogs run around unleashed. No one’s ever fretted that this means we could decide to leash people as well.

  102. @Colin Wright
    @Art Deco

    'Why should ordinary people who own guns to hunt, own guns for target shooting, or own guns for personal protection be denied that right if they have not been stripped of it per due process?'

    I never said they should. I proposed that blacks should be stripped of that right.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @anon

    I never said they should. I proposed that blacks should be stripped of that right.

    I’m sure you fancied that was clever.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Art Deco

    'I’m sure you fancied that was clever.'

    You may pretend to view blacks as 'ordinary people' -- but I doubt if you're such a fool as to act as if that were actually so.

    Go ahead: start hanging out in an all-black bar. Let us know how it plays out.

  103. @Argentine American
    Gentile whites — without help from anyone else — have repeatedly shown themselves capable of egalitarian excess. The French Revolution, the Clapham abolitionists, John Brown and his backers, the miscegenist enthusiasms of the Grimke sisters and other radical integrationists are all products of purely gentile delusion. Even if it were possible to prove that Jewish influence derailed what used to be a healthy American racial consciousness, that is a historical question not directly relevant to what we must accomplish now.

    So, there is a need to stop blaming Jews for the failure of Whites.

    Replies: @Jesse, @Hans, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @JSM, @Colin Wright, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Anon

    ‘…Even if it were possible to prove that Jewish influence derailed what used to be a healthy American racial consciousness, that is a historical question not directly relevant to what we must accomplish now.

    So, there is a need to stop blaming Jews for the failure of Whites.’

    This is practically nonsensical. It is the media et al — and in particular, Jews in the media et al — who are doing so much to prevent us from doing what we need to do now.

    Go ahead. Compile a list of the non-black figures driving all this. Come back and tell me Jews make up only two percent of that list.

  104. @Art Deco
    @Colin Wright

    I never said they should. I proposed that blacks should be stripped of that right.

    I'm sure you fancied that was clever.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘I’m sure you fancied that was clever.’

    You may pretend to view blacks as ‘ordinary people’ — but I doubt if you’re such a fool as to act as if that were actually so.

    Go ahead: start hanging out in an all-black bar. Let us know how it plays out.

  105. @Colin Wright
    Does it ever occur to anyone to suggest that blacks shouldn't be allowed to have guns?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Percy Gryce, @Known Fact, @Art Deco, @anon, @William Badwhite, @AnotherDad

    Does it ever occur to anyone to suggest that blacks shouldn’t be allowed to have guns?

    Law abiding blacks living in black neighborhoods generally need guns more than the typical white.

    The problem here stems at root from minoritarianism–as most all our problems do.

    If criminal blacks were dealt with forcefully–executed, expelled, exiled–this problem would be drastically mitigated, and generationally tend to resolve. But forceful anti-crime measures are … “racist”, “blaming the victim”, “criminalizing poverty”. Because as we all know black dysfunction is simply the result of the systemic racism of white gentiles.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @AnotherDad

    'Law abiding blacks living in black neighborhoods generally need guns more than the typical white.

    The problem here stems at root from minoritarianism–as most all our problems do.

    If criminal blacks were dealt with forcefully–executed, expelled, exiled–this problem would be drastically mitigated, and generationally tend to resolve. But ...'

    Possibly -- but as far as I'm concerned, it's a little late in the day for that.

    For starters, we can just go back to Jim Crow circa 1910. If blacks can then sort themselves out and come to us with a plan, we'll listen.

    I want it all to be their problem, not mine.

  106. @Jesse
    @Argentine American

    Don't love how we got here, but we're at the right destination! Also, thank you for acknowledging that Jews are, in fact, White. The WN tendency to pretend they aren't is part of a wider tendency to class as White anyone they like and "otherize" anyone they don't. They have no inclination to or practise in working with Whites that don't agree with their moronic "screw equality!" mindset, which is why they've achieved nothing. Ever.

    Replies: @Hans, @BenKenobi, @Abolish_public_education

    Jews are white (mostly), black, yellow, etc. But Jews instinctively self-identify as being “Jewish” (rather than White, Polish, Israeli, or what not).

    Jews compose a nation (tribe) whose membership therein is ascertained by whether the individual in question is Jewish (according to Jewish law).

    Whether ‘Jewish’ is a race or a religion is a question, as Prager likes to say, designed to confuse two groups: Jews and non-Jews.

  107. @Hans
    @Argentine American

    Except there are large numbers of people who still do not understand why "their" systems consistently fail and work against their own interests. Education is always essential.

    Nesta Webster did a very good work on the "French" Revolution - https://archive.org/details/NestaHWebsterTheFrenchRevolution

    Churchill praised her work (in this once very easy-to-find article), "This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus--Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognisable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire." - https://archive.org/details/ZionismVsBolshevismByWinstonChurchill

    Solzenitsyn said pretty much the same thing in his final book, 200 Years Together, what you can't read in English for some odd reason.

    Replies: @El Dato

    Fullus Textus of 1920 here:

    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism

    Duty of Loyal Jews.

    It is particularly important in these circumstances that the national Jews in every country who are loyal to the land of their adoption should come forward on every occasion, as many of them in England have already done, and take a prominent part in every measure for combating the Bolshevik conspiracy. In this way they will be able to vindicate the honour of the Jewish name and make it clear to all the world that the Bolshevik movement is not a Jewish movement, but is repudiated vehemently by the great mass of the Jewish race.

    But a negative resistance to Bolshevism in any field is not enough. Positive and practicable alternatives are needed in the moral as well as in the social sphere; and in building up with the utmost possible rapidity a Jewish national centre in Palestine which may become not only a refuge to the oppressed from the unhappy lands of Central Europe, but which will also be a symbol of Jewish unity and the temple of Jewish glory, a task is presented on which many blessings rest.

    • Replies: @Hans
    @El Dato

    Fullus Datus, I'm aware of the Jews who came across with the shekels to save Winston from financial embarrassment, but I don't know the names of the "many" who actively battled against Jewish Bolshevism. You wouldn't happen to have that list handy would you?

  108. @Chris Mallory
    @Ben Kurtz


    Certain government spending — e.g. military — indeed benefits the whole country.
     
    We still need to bring all our troops home, replace the army with a citizen's militia, and cut the current military budget by at least half.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

    Military (i.e. gov) spending is *waste*. Its “benefits” accrue to the M-I complex. Cut gov spending (including mil) by at least 95%.

    The local militia has always existed. In response to some sort of armed invasion (from Mars?), it was to be nationalized and called into duty as the US armed forces.

    The permanent, US military — dispatched to the four corners of the earth whenever the president feels like it! — is all wrong.

  109. @Mr McKenna

    Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when people inside began “firing at attendees of a funeral.” Some of those at the funeral returned gunfire with those in the vehicle.
     
    If you could travel back in time, 50 years or more, no one you spoke with would ever believe that funerals would one day be seen as natural places for gunfights. Nowadays you have to have casualties in the double digits to justify headlines. What's the trend here?

    If only someone could figure out how to keep all these guns from going off all the time, or -- barring that -- get guns out of law-abiding hands. Makes sense, right?

    Separately, and more seriously, Trump is an idiot for sending in federal forces to all of these Democrat cities which have made it amply clear that they like the way they're doing things. His political instincts--which many here believe are sterling--are as bad as any president I can remember. He's passing up a golden opportunity to let all of America see where Dem policies lead.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Harry Baldwin, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Alfa158, @Not my Economy, @AnotherDad, @Ed, @Eric Novak

    His political instincts–which many here believe are sterling–are as bad as any president I can remember. He’s passing up a golden opportunity to let all of America see where Dem policies lead.

    The main way he’s “passing up a golden opportunity” is not properly labelling it to remind people what is actually going on:

    “Democrat riots”

    Repeat and repeat and repeat. Every time Trump–or any Republican–references the riots it should be “Democrat Riots”. Respond to the squealing by repeating and point out that yes, it is precisely Democrat mayors, DAs, police chiefs, governors who are encouraging and enabling the rioting.

    “Democrat Riots”, “Democrat Riots”, “Democrat Riots” …

    By election day voters neural networks upon seeing “Democrat” on the ballot should pop with “riots” and many will decide they do not want to vote for riots.

    Geez how tough is this stuff … c’mon.

    (BTW if someone can get Tucker to start using it, Trump just might pick it up.)

    • Agree: Mr McKenna, Justvisiting
  110. anon[219] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright
    @Art Deco

    'Why should ordinary people who own guns to hunt, own guns for target shooting, or own guns for personal protection be denied that right if they have not been stripped of it per due process?'

    I never said they should. I proposed that blacks should be stripped of that right.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @anon

    I never said they should. I proposed that blacks should be stripped of that right.

    Just shows you are living in some imaginary world inside your head. Too lazy to look up the history of RKBA, too.

    Lazy fantasists are pretty common in most comment sections, especially now.. Are you a Boomer, too?

  111. @AnotherDad
    @Colin Wright


    Does it ever occur to anyone to suggest that blacks shouldn’t be allowed to have guns?
     
    Law abiding blacks living in black neighborhoods generally need guns more than the typical white.

    The problem here stems at root from minoritarianism--as most all our problems do.

    If criminal blacks were dealt with forcefully--executed, expelled, exiled--this problem would be drastically mitigated, and generationally tend to resolve. But forceful anti-crime measures are ... "racist", "blaming the victim", "criminalizing poverty". Because as we all know black dysfunction is simply the result of the systemic racism of white gentiles.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Law abiding blacks living in black neighborhoods generally need guns more than the typical white.

    The problem here stems at root from minoritarianism–as most all our problems do.

    If criminal blacks were dealt with forcefully–executed, expelled, exiled–this problem would be drastically mitigated, and generationally tend to resolve. But …’

    Possibly — but as far as I’m concerned, it’s a little late in the day for that.

    For starters, we can just go back to Jim Crow circa 1910. If blacks can then sort themselves out and come to us with a plan, we’ll listen.

    I want it all to be their problem, not mine.

  112. @Walsh2
    It's seems a foregone conclusion that Biden is going to pick a black woman as his running mate. Is anyone going to point out how bad black women appear to be at governing? I'm sure someone could think of a black woman who was/is successful in the legislative or judicial branch but can anyone come up with black woman who has been successful in the executive branch. I know it's a small sample size but I look at black women who have served as mayors and they all appear to be failures. The examples I can think of are the recent mayors of Baltimore, Mayor of Atlanta, Mayor of DC, and of course the Mayor of Chicago. Can anyone point to a black woman who has been successful as the head of the executive branch in any city, town, municipality in America? I think, given the circumstances and bar for success, there have been some success stories in African countries and I'm not saying it can't be or hasn't been done here in America but I'll be damned if I can come up with a single example. This said, all these women have done a better job than de Blasio and if push came to shove I'd probably take them over them over Whitmer.

    Replies: @Gianni in Guernsey, @Buffalo Joe, @Anon

    Joe is running with an african-AMERICAN woman in an attempt to meek him look competent. You notice her ruled out Tulsa Gabbard.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Gianni in Guernsey

    'Joe is running with an african-AMERICAN woman...'

    What happened to Kamala Harris?

    , @Colin Wright
    @Gianni in Guernsey

    '...You notice her ruled out Tulsa Gabbard.'

    Tulsi Gabbard should have been the multi-culturalist, feminist brigade's dream candidate. She had it all.

    ...except she wasn't going to do as Israel wished.

    Kamala Harris has made it clear she will serve Israel.

  113. @Gianni in Guernsey
    @Walsh2

    Joe is running with an african-AMERICAN woman in an attempt to meek him look competent. You notice her ruled out Tulsa Gabbard.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Colin Wright

    ‘Joe is running with an african-AMERICAN woman…’

    What happened to Kamala Harris?

  114. @obwandiyag
    But no gun control please. Not even a hint of it. Because reasons.

    Replies: @bruce county, @anon

    We need negro control you idiot. Take the guns from the negros and America will be 99% safer.

    • Replies: @Charles St. Charles
    @bruce county


    Take the guns from the negros and America will be 99% safer.
     
    As the Z Man says: “America doesn’t have a gun problem; it has a black guy problem.”
  115. @Art Deco
    @Percy Gryce

    No, the target is ordinary people. The whole point of the gun control discourse is to stick the blame for urban crime on rural hobbyists. It's socially and psychologically unacceptable to liberals to actually blame perpetrators. The perps are their clients and pets.

    Look at Nelson Shields III, DuPont executive and founder of the agency now known as the Brady Campaign. He undertook this crusade after his son was shot to death in San Francisco in 1974. Most murders are interpersonal disputes between people well acquainted, or they derive from bar fights, or they occur during robberies or burglaries. Nelson Shields IV was shot at random on the street for no particular reason other than his killer was out for dead white bodies. He was shot in the back while rummaging around in his car trunk and never saw the face of the man who killed him. Nelson Shields III could have processed this crime / tragedy in a half-dozen different ways. He chose the most perverse way: he started a crusade against inanimate objects (and, in doing that, against people like Harlon Carter who defended the people who own them).

    Now look at Sarah Brady, who spent decades plumping for legislation to annoy gun owners in response to an incident in which a friend had carelessly left a loaded gun on the front seat of his pickup truck and her son picked it up and began waving it around. She wasted gobs of time on that crusade and humiliated her disabled husband by using him as a prop. Yes, Sarah Brady was a schoolteacher in her younger years.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘No, the target is ordinary people. The whole point of the gun control discourse is to stick the blame for urban crime on rural hobbyists…’

    Indeed. I went to the local gun show last year.

    There was enough weaponry there to outfit a decent infantry battalion — literally.

    Yet last year — in a county with one hundred thousand inhabitants — we had zero homicides. Zip. Nada.

  116. @Gianni in Guernsey
    @Walsh2

    Joe is running with an african-AMERICAN woman in an attempt to meek him look competent. You notice her ruled out Tulsa Gabbard.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Colin Wright

    ‘…You notice her ruled out Tulsa Gabbard.’

    Tulsi Gabbard should have been the multi-culturalist, feminist brigade’s dream candidate. She had it all.

    …except she wasn’t going to do as Israel wished.

    Kamala Harris has made it clear she will serve Israel.

  117. @Michael S
    I have no proof, but I'm pretty sure the real reason that the press and politicians are losing their shit over these federal task forces is that they are actually decapitation strikes against the agitators and organizers.

    They swoop in, collect the ringleaders who are directing the mob, and then let the mob run around like a very violent headless chicken, often hitting targets of no strategic value or even of strategic value to the Democrats.

    But, like I said, no proof. Proving it would require the NGOs to acknowledge their real purpose and identify their shock-troop captains, and that's never going to happen. We can only observe that after the feds step in, the mob becomes mysteriously disorganized and eventually disperses.

    If you watch some videos of these "abductions", what should register every time is the utter shock and horror on the faces and in the voices of the people being taken away. They assumed they would be protected.

    Replies: @bruce county, @Anonymous

    If you watch some videos of these “abductions”, what should register every time is the utter shock and horror on the faces and in the voices of the people being taken away. They assumed they would be protected.

    But god damn it’s fun to watch.
    Mommy!! Daddy!!! Please!!! The Einsatzgruppen has taken me.

  118. @theMann
    Instead of defund the Police, we need to defund the Medical Trauma Centers. Instead of 100+ shot per weekend, 10 die, we need 100+ shot per weekend, 100 die. We need to make it perfectly obvious that Black Lives Matter so much that they are ready, able, and willing, to murder each other at a rate that achieves significant population reduction. Possibly we could combine this with defund the Utilities and defund the School Lunch program. And every single other program where White taxpayers are forced to support Blacks.


    Currently, Blacks don't get 10% of the grief that their behavior is inflicting upon them, because the rest of America is a perpetual motion machine of aiding Blacks despite their behavior. It is time for the Negro Race in America to get 100% of the consequences of their behavior unto themselves.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Mann, I put down my sandwich and stood to applaud your comment. Gold border.

  119. @Anonymous

    the largest number of victims in a single Chicago shooting in recent memory

     

    Ah, recent memory. Well, see, that's not so bad, then.

    Question for you American maths fellows: if a corpse is hit by a stray round during a Chicago funeral, does that cause the number of wounded to increase? Or are dead people automatically excluded from casualty figures in the Windy City*?

    If the latter, is this not a form of discrimination?

    (Asking for a statistician friend.)

    *After this latest impressive outbreak of, er, peacefulness, isn't it high time Chicago was rechristened the Shooty City? Fair is fair.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    ThreeEightSeven, well the dead in Chicago have been known to vote, so dead is a political question, not a math problem.

  120. @Old and Grumpy
    I still like to know how all these inner city shooters have an endless supply of ammo? No federal agent should be wasted on the cities. The bastions of democrat rule seem like they want their crime. They definitely want their criminals free. Just end section 8 housing programs, and let things work out naturally in the urban areas. By the way, who pays for the hospitalization of these shootings? If it's the feds, end that as well since the cities don't want fed help in stopping the crime.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Old and Grumpy, I posted this before, but the U of Chicago School of Medicine says the average cost of a shooting victim in Chicago is $87,000. So, this little dust up cost Chicago $1.218,000 !

  121. “…black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when people inside began “firing at attendees of a funeral.” Some of those at the funeral returned gunfire with those in the vehicle.”

    This isn’t a news story, it’s a rap video.

  122. @El Dato
    @Hans

    Fullus Textus of 1920 here:

    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism


    Duty of Loyal Jews.

    It is particularly important in these circumstances that the national Jews in every country who are loyal to the land of their adoption should come forward on every occasion, as many of them in England have already done, and take a prominent part in every measure for combating the Bolshevik conspiracy. In this way they will be able to vindicate the honour of the Jewish name and make it clear to all the world that the Bolshevik movement is not a Jewish movement, but is repudiated vehemently by the great mass of the Jewish race.

    But a negative resistance to Bolshevism in any field is not enough. Positive and practicable alternatives are needed in the moral as well as in the social sphere; and in building up with the utmost possible rapidity a Jewish national centre in Palestine which may become not only a refuge to the oppressed from the unhappy lands of Central Europe, but which will also be a symbol of Jewish unity and the temple of Jewish glory, a task is presented on which many blessings rest.
     

    Replies: @Hans

    Fullus Datus, I’m aware of the Jews who came across with the shekels to save Winston from financial embarrassment, but I don’t know the names of the “many” who actively battled against Jewish Bolshevism. You wouldn’t happen to have that list handy would you?

  123. @Argentine American
    Gentile whites — without help from anyone else — have repeatedly shown themselves capable of egalitarian excess. The French Revolution, the Clapham abolitionists, John Brown and his backers, the miscegenist enthusiasms of the Grimke sisters and other radical integrationists are all products of purely gentile delusion. Even if it were possible to prove that Jewish influence derailed what used to be a healthy American racial consciousness, that is a historical question not directly relevant to what we must accomplish now.

    So, there is a need to stop blaming Jews for the failure of Whites.

    Replies: @Jesse, @Hans, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @JSM, @Colin Wright, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Anon

    Dejate de joder, turco.

  124. @Buck Ransom
    @Change that Matters

    What is the age of Rahm Emanuel's brother?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Change that Matters

    Ezekiel Emanuel was born 06 September 1957 (i.e., 62-year-old).

    Yet another Chicago Jew on a mission.

  125. @Walsh2
    It's seems a foregone conclusion that Biden is going to pick a black woman as his running mate. Is anyone going to point out how bad black women appear to be at governing? I'm sure someone could think of a black woman who was/is successful in the legislative or judicial branch but can anyone come up with black woman who has been successful in the executive branch. I know it's a small sample size but I look at black women who have served as mayors and they all appear to be failures. The examples I can think of are the recent mayors of Baltimore, Mayor of Atlanta, Mayor of DC, and of course the Mayor of Chicago. Can anyone point to a black woman who has been successful as the head of the executive branch in any city, town, municipality in America? I think, given the circumstances and bar for success, there have been some success stories in African countries and I'm not saying it can't be or hasn't been done here in America but I'll be damned if I can come up with a single example. This said, all these women have done a better job than de Blasio and if push came to shove I'd probably take them over them over Whitmer.

    Replies: @Gianni in Guernsey, @Buffalo Joe, @Anon

    Walsh, Atlanta’s mayor, Kiesha Lance-Bottoms, is as incompetant as Baltimore’s former mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake but with a better hair do. They get their votes from the black community and their campaign financing from the White business men. When their incompetance affects the bottom line they are kicked to the curb. This all ends when the White wives of these business men can’t have their Jag convertible because insurance premiums went up 500%.

  126. @Hans
    In honor of Chicago's Mayor Lightbulb, the Trayvon Hoax film is available for free viewing at https://www.thetrayvonhoax.com/

    Quite and amazing tale of hoaxing and judicial malfeasance plus more on hair weaves, Miami, and urban slang than you probably ever wanted to know.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Hans, the people who need to watch the video aren’t at this site. And if those people watched it, they wouldn’t believe it. American riot culture is all about tee shirt slogans…”I can’t breathe”,,,”Hands up, don’t shoot.”

  127. @obwandiyag
    But no gun control please. Not even a hint of it. Because reasons.

    Replies: @bruce county, @anon

  128. @Kolya Krassotkin
    @Mr McKenna

    If you could traveled back in time, 50 years or more, and spoke to anyone who had spent time in Africa, they would believe that shootouts at funerals would one day occur.

    Black Chicagoans are only returning to their roots. Their homicide rates reflect those you find in Africa.

    Replies: @CCZ, @Buffalo Joe

    Kolya, Ireland, in the time of “The Troubles” had bombings and shootings of civilians and at least one grenade attack at a funeral.

  129. Even if it’s for black saints like George Floyd or Trevon Brown, whose lives were stunted and cut short by redlining and Joe Louis’ loss to hard-jabbing Adolf Hitler in the mid-1930s, don’t go to black funerals.

  130. @Mr. Anon
    @Mr McKenna


    Separately, and more seriously, Trump is an idiot for sending in federal forces to all of these Democrat cities which have made it amply clear that they like the way they’re doing things. His political instincts–which many here believe are sterling–are as bad as any president I can remember. He’s passing up a golden opportunity to let all of America see where Dem policies lead.
     
    I agree. Democrats voted for these governments, voted for these policies. That's what federalism is for. The feds should stay out of it, especially if the response is to send in unmarked police in military uniforms to throw people into unmarked vans (which is why a lot of us never wanted a DHS in the first place).

    But then Trump really is an idiot.

    Replies: @petit bourgeois

    The feds are protecting a federal courthouse in Portland that has been under seige for 53 nights in a row. Marxists and black bloc anarchists have been trying to burn down that building which is the foundation of the dispensation of justice in Oregon.

    It’s a freaking United States courthouse the “secret police” are protecting. The statute Congress wrote allows the “stormtroopers” to enforce the law and protect my tax dollars. The red diaper babies and aggrieved negroes are trying to destroy America one urban center at a time. Get a grip, comrade.

    And shame on you and your ad hominem comment towards the bad orange man. You’re not a billionaire real estate developer, so your opinion is meaningless.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @petit bourgeois

    I'm aware of what the Feds are doing in Portland, and they certainly do have a right to protect a federal building. Why can't they do it with uniformed officers whose affiliation is clearly called out, instead of with anonymous dudes in camo driving around in rental vans? I was opposed to the DHS from the moment it was created. A lot of people were. And pretty much for this very reason - that it would eventually morph into the "Ministry of the Interior".

    Trump is talking about sending federal officers to other cities, and not specifically to defend federal buildings. At some point, he would be justified in doing so, but I don't think it's wise to do so now. Liberal cities have voted for exactly what they are getting now. Let them enjoy it. Let these cities be an object lesson.

    And Trump is an idiot. He doesn't know when to shut up.

  131. @Ben Kurtz
    @Mr McKenna

    Liberals lie and conservatives oversimplify.

    Certain government spending -- e.g. military -- indeed benefits the whole country. Yet when the question arises as to where, geographically, to locate that spending, local interests often see it is a boon to get the spending done in their neighborhood. So there is a pork barrel element as well.

    This has been true since the beginning of the Republic -- the original six Constitution-class frigates were built in six different shipyards to spread the spending around, even though economies of scale were lost -- and it continues to this very day. Some military facilities are located in certain places out of sheer necessity (I can't imagine White Sands missile range anywhere other than in the remotest desert southwest), but plenty of it could be here or it could be there based on historical accident and political pull.

    And then there is the second-order private industry stuff -- how many high-tech contractors in Massachusetts and California make good money for their local areas off government and military contracts? Lots! Yet that creates another layer of accounting headache.

    The Rockefeller Institute must knowingly be publishing meaningless propaganda, but getting at anything resembling a true and fair answer to this sort of question is fraught beyond measure.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory, @petit bourgeois

    It’s the same in Nigeria. The oil has to be refined in several different refineries instead of one, to appease the ethnic factions and hold the country together.

    Building three refineries instead of one has social costs. Tax dollars going to a permanent underclass (black and brown) since 1965 isn’t helping us either.

  132. @Argentine American
    Gentile whites — without help from anyone else — have repeatedly shown themselves capable of egalitarian excess. The French Revolution, the Clapham abolitionists, John Brown and his backers, the miscegenist enthusiasms of the Grimke sisters and other radical integrationists are all products of purely gentile delusion. Even if it were possible to prove that Jewish influence derailed what used to be a healthy American racial consciousness, that is a historical question not directly relevant to what we must accomplish now.

    So, there is a need to stop blaming Jews for the failure of Whites.

    Replies: @Jesse, @Hans, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @JSM, @Colin Wright, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Anon

    “So, there is a need to stop blaming Jews for the failure of Whites.”

    This is the only thing you really wanted to say, the rest was camouflage.

  133. @Walsh2
    It's seems a foregone conclusion that Biden is going to pick a black woman as his running mate. Is anyone going to point out how bad black women appear to be at governing? I'm sure someone could think of a black woman who was/is successful in the legislative or judicial branch but can anyone come up with black woman who has been successful in the executive branch. I know it's a small sample size but I look at black women who have served as mayors and they all appear to be failures. The examples I can think of are the recent mayors of Baltimore, Mayor of Atlanta, Mayor of DC, and of course the Mayor of Chicago. Can anyone point to a black woman who has been successful as the head of the executive branch in any city, town, municipality in America? I think, given the circumstances and bar for success, there have been some success stories in African countries and I'm not saying it can't be or hasn't been done here in America but I'll be damned if I can come up with a single example. This said, all these women have done a better job than de Blasio and if push came to shove I'd probably take them over them over Whitmer.

    Replies: @Gianni in Guernsey, @Buffalo Joe, @Anon

    Same applies for most white women.

  134. CCZ says:

    Chiraq, one of America’s finest Third World Cities, proving “Diversity Is Our Strength”:

    At a news conference with the mayor Wednesday, [Police Superintendent] Brown said Chicago has 117,000 gang members divided into 55 major gangs and 747 factions with 2,500 “subsets of those factions.”

    Any day of the week, any hour of the day, Chicago has “several hundred gang conflicts,” he said, and the cycle repeats: someone is shot and someone else “picks up a gun and retaliates.”

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/7/22/21334970/gang-feud-mass-shooting-funeral-home-auburn-gresham

  135. @VinnyVette
    Funeral homes should adopt a "check your guns at the door policy" like the saloons of the old west... black lives matter.

    Replies: @CCZ

  136. @Mr McKenna

    Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when people inside began “firing at attendees of a funeral.” Some of those at the funeral returned gunfire with those in the vehicle.
     
    If you could travel back in time, 50 years or more, no one you spoke with would ever believe that funerals would one day be seen as natural places for gunfights. Nowadays you have to have casualties in the double digits to justify headlines. What's the trend here?

    If only someone could figure out how to keep all these guns from going off all the time, or -- barring that -- get guns out of law-abiding hands. Makes sense, right?

    Separately, and more seriously, Trump is an idiot for sending in federal forces to all of these Democrat cities which have made it amply clear that they like the way they're doing things. His political instincts--which many here believe are sterling--are as bad as any president I can remember. He's passing up a golden opportunity to let all of America see where Dem policies lead.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Harry Baldwin, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Alfa158, @Not my Economy, @AnotherDad, @Ed, @Eric Novak

    I think doing something has more of a positive political impact for Trump than not doing something. Don’t sell the public short on this issue.

  137. @Redneck farmer
    Do we know the rap sheet of any of the victims?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Possumman

    Aren’t they all “aspiring rappers”

  138. @bruce county
    @obwandiyag

    We need negro control you idiot. Take the guns from the negros and America will be 99% safer.

    Replies: @Charles St. Charles

    Take the guns from the negros and America will be 99% safer.

    As the Z Man says: “America doesn’t have a gun problem; it has a black guy problem.”

  139. @Mr McKenna

    Carter said a black vehicle was speeding west on 79th Street when people inside began “firing at attendees of a funeral.” Some of those at the funeral returned gunfire with those in the vehicle.
     
    If you could travel back in time, 50 years or more, no one you spoke with would ever believe that funerals would one day be seen as natural places for gunfights. Nowadays you have to have casualties in the double digits to justify headlines. What's the trend here?

    If only someone could figure out how to keep all these guns from going off all the time, or -- barring that -- get guns out of law-abiding hands. Makes sense, right?

    Separately, and more seriously, Trump is an idiot for sending in federal forces to all of these Democrat cities which have made it amply clear that they like the way they're doing things. His political instincts--which many here believe are sterling--are as bad as any president I can remember. He's passing up a golden opportunity to let all of America see where Dem policies lead.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Harry Baldwin, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Kolya Krassotkin, @Alfa158, @Not my Economy, @AnotherDad, @Ed, @Eric Novak

    Fifty years? Lots of funeral home shootouts in Chicago of 1970, three years after blacks burned down several square miles of the West Side.
    Trump’s deployment of small numbers of federal officers to protect federal properties is common police work and sending them to assist big city police departments in controlling gang violence only points out the nutty contradictions of current-year cosmopolitan progressive mayors. Just a few years ago, Rahm Emmanuel himself openly discussed sending Nat’l Guard units to the South and West Sides of Chicago. These mayors all want Trump out at the expense of thousands of dead blacks. Globo Homo and open borders cannot be stopped for the sake of the hood.

  140. Anonymous[396] • Disclaimer says:
    @Michael S
    I have no proof, but I'm pretty sure the real reason that the press and politicians are losing their shit over these federal task forces is that they are actually decapitation strikes against the agitators and organizers.

    They swoop in, collect the ringleaders who are directing the mob, and then let the mob run around like a very violent headless chicken, often hitting targets of no strategic value or even of strategic value to the Democrats.

    But, like I said, no proof. Proving it would require the NGOs to acknowledge their real purpose and identify their shock-troop captains, and that's never going to happen. We can only observe that after the feds step in, the mob becomes mysteriously disorganized and eventually disperses.

    If you watch some videos of these "abductions", what should register every time is the utter shock and horror on the faces and in the voices of the people being taken away. They assumed they would be protected.

    Replies: @bruce county, @Anonymous

    I’m still curious to know who ordered that mob to the home of the mayor of Seattle. That seems to have been the trigger for all this. It must have spooked some powerful people.

    It reminds me of how the Salem witch hysteria was quickly shut down after someone accused the wife of the governor.

  141. These mayors all want Trump out at the expense of thousands of dead blacks

    That’s not much of a consolation prize for having to bear collectivist atomism, rampant antirationalism, corporate capitalism, failure to solve the BOC problem, and unlimited moralizing humanism. On the bright side, however, there are signs that some papists and related idolators will have the daylights beaten out of their overheated heads during the next decade or so. The shoe of despotism is on the other foot again, and the crybaby cultists are wailing about the discomfort already.

    Pay a visit to Lew Rockwell’s site. You’ll notice that the articles and blog entries are wet and salty with the tears of hypocrites every day.

  142. @petit bourgeois
    @Mr. Anon

    The feds are protecting a federal courthouse in Portland that has been under seige for 53 nights in a row. Marxists and black bloc anarchists have been trying to burn down that building which is the foundation of the dispensation of justice in Oregon.

    It's a freaking United States courthouse the "secret police" are protecting. The statute Congress wrote allows the "stormtroopers" to enforce the law and protect my tax dollars. The red diaper babies and aggrieved negroes are trying to destroy America one urban center at a time. Get a grip, comrade.

    And shame on you and your ad hominem comment towards the bad orange man. You're not a billionaire real estate developer, so your opinion is meaningless.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    I’m aware of what the Feds are doing in Portland, and they certainly do have a right to protect a federal building. Why can’t they do it with uniformed officers whose affiliation is clearly called out, instead of with anonymous dudes in camo driving around in rental vans? I was opposed to the DHS from the moment it was created. A lot of people were. And pretty much for this very reason – that it would eventually morph into the “Ministry of the Interior”.

    Trump is talking about sending federal officers to other cities, and not specifically to defend federal buildings. At some point, he would be justified in doing so, but I don’t think it’s wise to do so now. Liberal cities have voted for exactly what they are getting now. Let them enjoy it. Let these cities be an object lesson.

    And Trump is an idiot. He doesn’t know when to shut up.

  143. @HammerJack
    @Mr McKenna

    Jennifer Levitz of the WSJ says that suburban whites just need to join the BLM movement, and stop being such white supremacists.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-black-lives-matter-sign-stirs-debate-in-a-boston-suburb-11595410200

    WSJ comments are mixed. So although the WSJ is increasingly pozzed, some of its readership is still hanging tough.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/508373-over-280-wall-street-journal-employees-raise-credibility-concerns-about

    WSJ staffers draw the line at letting Heather MacDonald have her say..

    Replies: @Brutusale

    I love the comment from the white woman from Easton, MA talking about living in her 90% white bubble. The bubble bursts at the town line, which she probably crossed to find the black man who left the sperm deposit.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brockton,_Massachusetts

    “The racial makeup of the city was 39.85% White, 42.32% African American, 0.29% Native American, 1.65% Asian, 0.06% Pacific Islander, and 3.69% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 12.14% of the population. The African-American population in Brockton has grown significantly since the beginning of the early 2000s.[citation needed] 2013 estimates state Brockton’s demographics as 42.8% White, 43.1% African American, 0.4% Native American, 2.0% Asian, 0% Pacific Islander, 10.3% from other races, 3.9% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 7.8% of the population.[22]

    Brockton has one of the largest populations of Cape Verdean ancestry in the United States, with about 9% of its population. [23] Brockton also reportedly has one of the largest communities of Angolans in the United States.[citation needed]”

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